New Orleans Bourbon Street Attack, Cybertruck Explosion, Whitney Cummings ROASTS CNN | PBD Podcast | Ep. 527

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick discuss the New Orleans Bourbon Street attack, the Cybertruck explosion outside of Trump's Las Vegas hotel, and Whitney Cummings roasting CNN during New Years Eve countdown with Anderson Cooper.🧢 PURCHASE THE NEW ANGRY PATRIOT HATS: https://bit.ly/4iWfW31💳 VT NEW YEARS SALE: https://bit.ly/4iVitKH🧥THE NEW VT SWEATSHIRTS & HOODIES: https://bit.ly/4f5fnAM🧢 PURCHASE THE NEW VT HATS: https://bit.ly/3ZFAPrH📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:09Speaker 03

  Adam, what's your plan? Your future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:16Tom Ellsworth?

  You are a one of one. My son's right.

• 1:18Speaker 03

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Great movie. Tom Cruise. You should have taken those Cadillacs. All right, we are back at it. He should have taken those Cadillacs. Tom is quoting from the movie American Made with, what is it? Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise. Phenomenal, phenomenal movie. As Barry Seal. As Barry Seal. Which by the way, another part of that, when it was the Iran contra was done on the building we're in right now as we speak with all over North, but that's a different story. Not as good as it looks. Anyway, you just got tuned in today, guys. We are in 2025. Happy New Year to all of you. Rough start with what happened in New Orleans, obviously, as well as Vegas. We will definitely talk about that tragic event. Think about some people are out there just trying to enjoy themselves. I'm on boom, car comes out, does what it does.

• 2:06Patrick Bet-David?

  There's so many interesting things coming out with this story. We will definitely cover that.

• 2:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Couple other stories while that's going out CIA workbook claims a five-digit number can reduce pain signals. We will give you those five digits if you're having some pains recovering from your 2025 New Year's Eve, but we will share that with you. Literally, there's a number that they say if you keep repeating it, your pain goes away, which that's pretty insane, but we'll figure that part out. Steve Bannon welcomes escalation of MAGA civil war following Elon Musk's insulting American workers. Now, mediaite says insulting media. By the way, they were here a couple of days ago just doing an interview with me. Mediaite editor-in-chief was here, but that's interesting saying what they're saying about Steve Bannon. We will see that part as well. We'll talk about it. Biden administration handed big defeat in

• 2:53Patrick Bet-David?

  9/11 mastermind case. Adams, this is Mayor Adams, claims subway violence, including horrific arson attack, overshadowed New York City's 2024 success on transit crime. Interesting. We'll see what that data shows. January 1st, California, ready for this? They will ticket drivers who park near crosswalks. Let me read that to you one more time, folks. This is the logic of politics in California. Effective January 1st, California will ticket drivers who park near crosswalks. I would get 365 tickets that year if that was the case, me living in California. New California regulation requires insurance companies to offer coverage

• 3:36Patrick Bet-David?

  in high-risk areas. You know what happens when you do that, California? You force insurance companies to leave, then people cannot buy houses because homeowner's insurance goes up. But again, we'll talk about that as well. Xi says, no one can stop China's reunification with Taiwan. No one, is what he says. Drug cartels, according to Washington Times, drug cartels are now Mexico's fifth-largest employer. Let me say that again. Drug cartels in Mexico are officially Mexico's fifth-largest employer. Can you put that on a resume? I'm reading that and it's just, you know, you have to read it a couple of times for it to make sense to you. We'll cover that. Nearly all Puerto Ricans lose power on New

• 4:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Year's Eve, leaving one 1.3 residents in the dark. Businesses are already prepping up for a Trump resurgence. AI data centers are causing distortions in the power grid from coast to coast. Americans predict challenges in 2025 with a few bright spots. Whitney Cummings, what a, a, a, uh.

• 4:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I love what she did. We have to show you this clip, what she did New Year's Eve, taunting Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper. Invoking Kathy Griffin, roasting CNN ratings, Disney and more. Rob, if you got all the clips, I wouldn't mind showing all of them. David Letterman, by the way, the other day we talked about Kamala and Fallon. It's interesting, we talk about Letterman and Leno, just last Thursday. Today, today's what? Today's Thursday. Today's Thursday, so Tuesday. It feels like Tuesday today. It feels like tomorrow.

• 5:11Speaker 06

  I literally didn't know what day it was.

• 5:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are you?

• 5:12Speaker 06

  Who are we?

• 5:13Patrick Bet-David?

  New Year's, Christmas, what's going on? We talked about it. Letterman then comes out and says, show business made him a worse person. Really? Found humanity, living quiet life in Indiana. Okay, interesting, so. He looks like a caveman, he has a beard, the guy's freaking crazy right now. This next one here, folks, if you're driving, put your hand 10 to, okay? Focus on the road if you're driving, listen to this, because it's almost not going to make sense. Teachers, school teachers, will no longer need to pass basic reading, writing and math test for certification in this blue state. Wait, so. Teachers, your job is to teach.

• 5:55Patrick Bet-David?

  But you're no longer required to pass basic, not advanced. Not calculus. Not calculus, basic reading, writing and math in this blue state.

• 6:04Speaker 06

  I read, I read good.

• 6:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Who needs education when you got indoctrination? Dumb ideas coming your way, folks, in blue states. FBI confirms a terror suspect, uh, Shamsud Dean Jabar, Jabar was flying ISIS flag. At first, they didn't want to say that, later on, they did. You saw that one FBI lady that came out and. Oh, she's, we have a clip of her, oh, yeah. New Orleans terror attack live updates, terrorist made videos where he confessed to planning to murder his family, claiming. He joined ISIS and then Cybertruck filled with fuel and fireworks explodes at Trump Las Vegas hotel. However, uh, you know, it would, the explosion was in such a way that it went up.

• 6:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That, you know, even Elon had to tweet, you send that last night, sharing the tweet that he said, our investigation, our team has investigated this whole thing and.

• 6:56Speaker 06

  It's not the truck, nothing.

• 6:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Props to the product of Tesla because it went up instead of going side. And I know Tom's got a whole mechanical analysis on this to tell you guys on the engineering side.

• 7:05Speaker 06

  Cause he, he went online and got the degree last night.

• 7:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So, having said that, Vinnie's got an announcement for you guys. A new product is out for all the angry patriots out there. Go ahead, Vinnie.

• 7:14Speaker 06

  Well, this is, we've been waiting for, for a while. We did a couple of test runs, but boom, angry patriot, future looks bright on the side. And we got the American flag in black and white. Guys, this isn't like the normal, what, what are the ones that we have, Pat, that are like more golf? This is more of a flat brim. I mean, it still bends and it looks sick and uh, yeah, they're out. So if you want to rock the angry patriots, boom. Rob, link.

• 7:34Patrick Bet-David?

  American flag on the side, future looks bright on the other side.

• 7:36Speaker 06

  On the side, nothing, the back is just regular, but it's like a 59, it's like, it's a sick hat.

• 7:40Patrick Bet-David?

  This'll go fast, guys. So if you want an angry patriot hat, go place the order. If you love Vinnie, place the order of the hat. Okay. All right. So let's get into it. I think the first story for us to start off with, I just think we have to get right into it. And that's the New Orleans Bourbon Street attack. At least 10 dead, 30 injured. After driver plows into New Year's revelers on Bourbon Street in New Orleans. Rob, is it 10 or is it 11 now? Can you double?

• 8:09Speaker 06

  15.

• 8:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's up to 16, I believe.

• 8:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it 16 now? Okay. So is it really 16 now, Rob?

• 8:15Tom Ellsworth?

  It was 15 last night. I saw it multiple news sources around midnight.

• 8:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you check to see what the death toll is now? I thought it was higher than that. 15, okay, death toll, let's open that one up, Rob, if you could. So death toll rises to 15 in New Orleans terrorism attack. The suspect in deadly attack that killed 15 people and injured dozens of others has been identified by the FBI. Let me read a little bit more to see if we have any other facts on this one here.

• 8:40Patrick Bet-David?

  35 injured, this happened, a truck rammed into crowds on Bourbon Street at 3:15 a.m. followed by a gunfight with police, the driver described as hell-bent on creating the carnage and the damage that he did, according to Superintendent Anker Patrick, was killed by officers, the FBI, which is investigating the incident as an act of terrorism, at first they didn't want to say it, but they eventually said it, uh, uh, revealed that at least one suspected improvised explosive device was found at the scene, although its connection to the driver remains unconfirmed. Witness Jimmy Cothran described seeing eight bodies sprawled out on the street, adding

• 9:23Patrick Bet-David?

  "dead right in front of us", was someone's mother, twisted, obviously deceased, one man deceased, had tire tracks across his back and stomach and was clearly crushed, a little girl, oh my god, a little girl that, uh, that we had seen dancing was as flat as a pillow, that's even tough to read, oh my goodness, and, and a ton has come out on this individual, even one of the stories that came out on the addendum. Rob, if you want to play that clip on the New York Post, that FBI confirms terror suspect Shamsud Dean Jabraz flying ISIS flag, is that it Rob, that he's flying the ISIS flag?

• 10:03Tom Ellsworth?

  So, this is the clip of the truck, I have it before it goes into the crowd, if you want to show it, and then I also have other B-roll of the truck as well.

• 10:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's see, let's see some B-roll here.

• 10:12Speaker 06

  So, this is, he-

• 10:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That's 3:15 a.m.

• 10:15Speaker 06

  This is just traffic on the side street. And he's gonna take a right here shortly.

• 10:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, let me ask you a question, what camera is so focused on that truck? Why is that camera following it? Why is the camera know to follow the white truck?

• 10:25Speaker 06

  Well, see that, that's the barricade right there, people, you know, watch what he does, he stops, and then he takes his hard right, and then boom, he's going, and now he's going. I can't even look at that, man. No, and, and now he's gone, he's going 80 miles an hour down a narrow- Street and now they all know that.

• 10:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you, why, Tom, why does the camera know to follow that?

• 10:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I'd like to know whose footage this is. That's what I'd really like to know. Have they edited down into a square for us? Maybe a security camera from across the street? Or who is taking this and knows to take this? Or is this multiple?

• 10:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Because you know the Ring cameras, like you know those cameras that people are out there? Or even the PZT cameras? Are the PZT cameras able for you to track something after the event? No, right?

• 11:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Right. I don't know why it would because there's multiple vehicles moving in the traffic on that street.

• 11:11Patrick Bet-David?

  That's interesting. So what is this?

• 11:12Tom Ellsworth?

  These, these are now the cameras that are outside of establishments, like, you know, watching your door.

• 11:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is where he's driving 80 miles an hour and the people get out the way?

• 11:23Speaker 07

  People, everybody gets out of the way in this video, but yeah, you just want to see how quick.

• 11:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, go ahead, Rob.

• 11:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at, oh my goodness. Oh my God.

• 11:37Tom Ellsworth?

  You see, that camera doesn't move. So that's an external security cam. Have you spent any time on Bourbon Street? Have you guys ever been there? Of course. You know, I was there less than a year ago with Delhi. We were filming on this exact street. And then that's just on a random day throughout the year on New Year's? Too many people are out there reveling, having a great time? And this is what comes out of absolute nowhere. And by the way, more people would have been killed further down the street and nobody's pointing out. He struck a construction bucket loader. And that was the end of the, of the.

• 12:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is it? Well, this is it right here, Pat. You know, this is the shootout.

• 12:12Speaker 07

  And we're not going to play the video because I don't want to put that out there, but we will play the audio. So you can hear this is as soon as he gets out of the vehicle, then you can hear the gunshots ringing out and people fleeing.

• 12:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 12:24Patrick Bet-David?

  So he's getting out?

• 12:26Speaker 06

  And those are like him, because he got out, he had a gun, he had two guns and he had devices on him. But as soon as he got out, they just started, they started shooting at him.

• 12:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So do you have the clip of President Biden saying that the New Orleans attacker, uh, who killed 15 was inspired by state Islamic State group? Do you have that clip? Yes, sir. Go for it.

• 12:47Tom Ellsworth?

  That mere hours before the attack.

• 12:49Speaker 06

  Hours.

• 12:49Tom Ellsworth?

  He posted videos on social media indicating that he was inspired by ISIS. Expressing a desire to kill, desire to kill. The ISIS flag was found in his vehicle, which he rented to conduct this attack. Possibly.

• 13:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have the clip of him saying the things?

• 13:07Speaker 06

  What?

• 13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Of what he's gonna be doing? Like, actual?

• 13:12Speaker 06

  I don't think, I don't, I don't know if they, they, they let them post that, but.

• 13:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I've not seen that. I've, I've seen multiple news sources talking about it, but I could not find the clip.

• 13:19Speaker 07

  The only video that they have released is the video of him talking about being a realtor.

• 13:24Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is years ago.

• 13:25Speaker 07

  Yes, 2021.

• 13:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And this, by the way, this guy was a former vet. I think he was stationed at the 82nd, if I'm not mistaken. And if you want to play the clip, go for it.

• 13:34Tom Ellsworth?

  He's served in Afghanistan.

• 13:36Speaker 03

  I'm Shamsedine Jabbar, property manager with Blue Metal Properties and team lead at the Midas Group at Core Realty. I just want to say hello and let you know a little bit about me. So I'm born and raised in Beaumont, Texas, and now live in Houston. And I've been here all my life, with the exception of traveling for the military where I spent 10 years as a human resources specialist and IT specialist, where I learned the meaning of great service and what it means to be responsive and take everything seriously, dotting i's and crossing t's to make sure that things go off without a hitch. So I've taken those skills and applied them to my career as a real estate agent, where I feel like what really sets me apart from other agents is my ability to be able to, one, be a fierce negotiator. So not only do I.

• 14:20Speaker 06

  But here's my question though.

• 14:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Seems like a rational business guy at this chapter of his life.

• 14:25Speaker 06

  The President of the United States, who's obviously asleep behind the wheel, said on camera, the FBI knew about this guy hours before ISIS and all that stuff. Where was the manhunt? Where was the, you know, letting everybody know, giving everybody a heads up? It's like, they, what, what is the, how many times are we gonna have a conversation, Tom? Where we're like, the FBI or all these people keep dropping the ball? If it's not about DEI seminars or Donald Trump, it seems as if nobody's working. I, I, that's my opinion. And then you're gonna see the FBI chick in New Orleans, talking about this isn't a terror attack. Did you see this? And look what's right underneath her. New Orleans, dealing with the terrorist attack, and this is what the FBI says.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  What it is right now is there improvised explosive devices that was found. And we are working on confirming if this is a viable device or not. As Chief Kirkpatrick said, we're asking everyone to stay away from Bourbon Street.

• 15:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Why does she sound so nervous?

• 15:23Speaker 03

  Specifically from Canal Street to St. Anne.

• 15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Is she's reading?

• 15:25Speaker 03

  That is my ask, once again. Stay away from Bourbon Street, Canal Street, all the way to St. Anne until we can figure out what is going on.

• 15:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me read this about her, about the killer. Jabbar served in the army from 07 to 15, including the deployment of Afghanistan, okay? And then later he joined the reserves till 2020. He posted videos referencing the Quran and claimed in 2020 YouTube video for his real estate business that the military taught him the meaning of great service. However, financial struggles, two divorces, okay? Child support disputes, $16,000 in debt left him in hardship. And his first wife was suing him for child support payment that he claims he was he was behind on, I think it was a number, it was $28,000 or whatever the number was. And then his business hadn't made any money this year and he was struggling financially.

• 16:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But what I'm trying to find out is this is his, how recent is this picture, Rob? Do we know? Because I saw this picture everywhere.

• 16:24Speaker 06

  I think that's his passport picture.

• 16:25Speaker 07

  It doesn't say here in this photo.

• 16:27Speaker 06

  I'm pretty sure it's his passport.

• 16:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what else do we know about this story?

• 16:30Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a more recent photo. That, what you just said is what I saw. And so at the same time where we had talked about that you and I wanted the story two weeks ago, we want to know what happened in those missing 90 days for the gentleman that shot the CEO of United Healthcare, that there's this missing 90 days, what was going on in there?

• 16:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 16:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Who was in his ear? What was happening? The same thing, you've, I've read exactly what you read. And so I've made a little timeline of it. And so for the last six months, it appears that it's been high stress. He was in court on the child support hearing, like where's the money, what's going on? The divorces were there, there was an email, an alleged email that was circulated, I believe by Law enforcement that said that he sent to his ex-wife, "Look, you know, I gotta sell this house, or I gotta do this because, you know, you know, you gotta be reasonable." So he was under great mental stress for the last six months on, should we say, mental stress, financial stress. And did that lead him, so when people are under great financial stress and they feel

• 17:37Tom Ellsworth?

  hopelessness, sometimes they go off and commit suicide because life is so hopeless and everything that's going on. And did he get caught up with some people that got in his ear and were able to manipulate him and to the point that he admires ISIS and basically what he did this night was commit suicide? I read something further that said, "Was the reason that he didn't set off the explosive devices is because he hit the construction equipment?" Like was his, his desire to get to the end of the street and then set off those devices? So we don't know what his plan was for the end of the street.

• 18:20Tom Ellsworth?

  We only know that he hit the construction equipment that brought the speeding truck to a halt and then he got out and started shooting and they found the coolers with these devices. So I want to know, who was in his ear, what was happening there? But he obviously became sympathetic toward ISIS and was under a great deal of financial stress. Did he break, lose it and find, you know, you know, some sort of affinity with ISIS and then decided to take him out in this way?

• 18:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So the, the comparison between him and the other fellow who did what he did with the Tesla, they both rented their cars from the same company, Toro, right? I think it's called Toro, if I'm saying it correctly.

• 19:01Tom Ellsworth?

  That's correctly.

• 19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. They both served in the same unit, which that doesn't mean anything because that's the 82nd, you know, Fort Bragg, it's a big unit. It's not like a, you know, there could be coincidences there. But the timing of it and what happened, you have to consider the timing of when it took place, the Tesla truck in front of Trump, there's even a picture of it, and I don't want to get into that story yet, we'll get into that, but all of this is the link between the two stories that you have there. Vinny, what else do you have on this story?

• 19:29Speaker 06

  Well, Ryan Ralph, also the guy that was at the golf course that was trying to shoot President Trump, or trying to assassinate Trump. He visited Fort Bragg also 100 times. But it just, and Tom, it's all these coincidences. What makes someone who looked like a normal guy? He's making videos, he seems like the American guy, a veteran. What flips you like that? We always talk about what's in your ear and it's like, they're at a military base, Tom, both of these guys, and we're gonna get into that other story later. What makes somebody who is talking to these people, and it's not as if the government doesn't have programs to flip people, but it's like, what's the end goal? What is it for? And what really pisses me off about this thing, apparently this guy's mosque,

• 20:09Speaker 06

  this guy mosque, the mosque that in Houston, Texas, put out a letter saying, directing its members not to speak to authorities. Why wouldn't you want them to talk to authorities about somebody that's there? This is the letter right there, Pat, you want me to read this?

• 20:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go for it.

• 20:26Speaker 06

  Assalamualaikum, brothers and sisters. I'm sure many of you have heard about the tragic events that took place in New Orleans this morning that are now being classified as an act of terror, in quotes, by the FBI. I want to emphasize the importance that everyone stay very vigilant and aware of your surroundings. The safety of your community is the most important thing. If anyone is contacted by the media, it is very important that you do not respond. If approached by the FBI and a response is necessary, please refer to C I A R, which is, Tom, is it a Council on American-Islamic Relations? And I S G H. It is crucial that we stay united at this time. We condemn these terrible acts, please stay safe. I mean, why are you telling them not to talk to the FBI? Something is going on, you want to talk about it. I just think this is, this is something deeper.

• 21:11Speaker 06

  This is something that's, this is just the beginning. Sean Ryan had Sarah Adams on his show a while ago, and she was, she's a CIA, she worked for the CIA, and she's saying, they're over. Mind you, these are the homegrown guys, Adam. These aren't the people that were let into the border, like that one guy, the Azerbaijan terrorist, that was like, soon you will know my name. This is, and I'm not trying to fear monger, everybody, I'm just telling everybody, stay alert, stay aware, because besides this 20, like, who knows what's gonna happen before the 20th? But this is not gonna stop, this is just the beginning.

• 21:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. It's easy to look at a situation like this and blame it on radical Islamic terrorists, right? That's on the surface level, hey, this is what this is.

• 21:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I actually think that is the last piece of the puzzle. I think that is the icing on the cake. Because if you look at what's happened with this guy, born in America, lived in Texas, served in what, the army?

• 22:01Speaker 06

  Ten years and then National Guard.

• 22:02Tom Ellsworth?

  So, National Guard, to me, it's the exact opposite. Whether that's a school shooter, whether it's these radical extremists, whether it's mass murderers, there's a lot going on. Dark triad type of personalities, narcissism, psychopath, Machiavellianism, and then the collective issues that they have, personal grievances, victimhood, nobody's looking out for me, injustice, revenge, playing the blame game, going through a divorce, financial issues, psychological issues, mental health, depression, social isolation, all these things that these people are dealing with, right? Oftentimes, they write a manifesto. All these things that are going on, living in echo chambers, and then you get online, and you look for a solution, and you get into social media, and boom, you watch a video of ISIS.

• 22:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, maybe this is what it is. So you sprinkle out a little jihad, you sprinkle a little Islamism out there, and then that is what motivates you to act. So I don't, I don't go right to, oh, it's just jihad. I think that is the end game.

• 23:03Speaker 06

  Like I said, it's just starting. It's time I know you want to say something, but the FBI just seized the most bombs it's ever seized in someone's house. There's 150 homemade pipe bombs, the largest stockpile of explosives recovered, Brad Spafford's Virginia farm. The pipe bombs were preloaded into a vest, he was preparing for a large-scale attack, and he lost three fingers, idiot, making the bombs, and he used a photo of Biden and Harris for target practice, and he made threats following the Trump shooting, and he also planned to mount a 50-calibable turret on his property and start shooting at all the cops nearby that's coming. Something is going on, something is brewing, I don't know what the hell it is, call it, something's in the air, but I'm telling you right now, it's not gonna stop. I've been saying this for a long time.

• 23:46Tom Ellsworth?

  PBD, you mentioned something about, or maybe it was something, something he was Suicides, someone said something about suicide.

• 23:52Speaker 06

  So, well, that is.

• 23:54Tom Ellsworth?

  That was my, my, that was my summary comment that it is not uncommon. For people that feel ultimate hopelessness to be contemplating suicide. And was, you know, this aligning with ISIS guy and guy, these people are oppressed just like me. These people, wow, maybe I'm just, I'm just angry at everybody. I'm angry at the world. I'm depressed. Two divorces, all the stuff we've talked about that you're facing under that precious. You know, um, the, um, you know, under that pressure, he broke and thought ISIS is the way out. He, and then goes speeding down the street, basically committed suicide. Yeah. What I'm wondering is, and I'm not making a, any sort of mockery of this is, I wish he would have just committed suicide.

• 24:40Tom Ellsworth?

  So these people that feel the need to take out innocent people, whether it's Sandy Hook killing kids, whether it's going to school, Parkland, what, you know, the Pulse nightclub, all these things. So you take out innocent people as if that's the solution? It's so disgusting. It's so dark. It's so evil. The suicide is also a statement. We've seen that in some of the writings of some of the. I wish that was a statement he made. There's people celebrating New Year's, living their best life and on the side of a street. We, we don't know. The, the search of his house and everything shows that he was destitute. Uh, there was bills that they found. It was disgusting place. Yeah. The guy was in a very dark place.

• 25:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what's crazy is just last Tuesday, last year, Tuesday, we spoke about how the chart I showed about how people become homeless, right? And I said, how does it get to being homeless? What are the seven things before becoming homeless, right? How does a person get to this level here? What are the seven steps prior to you getting to this point, right? Been in business for a long time. We get a lot of weird calls. When you're paying out life insurance policies. You always, you find out what the cause of death was. Heart attack, stroke, accident, suicide. We, we had multiple stories of agents that would come back and you would hear stories. Hey, suicide, what caused it?

• 26:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What caused somebody to get to a point like this? And in many cases, you, you, there are signs to look at and say, wow, this guy was really going through it. And in those moments, these guys sometimes have nobody to talk about. They think, and then if somebody gets a hold of you in that moment and they give you encouragement and say, you know, whatever ISIS may be put, because another person who was psychoanalyzing this saying that the methodology of what he did aligns very well with what ISIS teaches in their playbook. Because right now, the ISIS playbook is, is built in a way that you don't have to go to where they are for them to train you. They have videos to teach you of how to do things like this. It's spreading like in a way that, and by the way, I, I don't want to fear monger. When's the last time you heard a ISIS story?

• 26:47Speaker 06

  What do you mean? Last, four years ago?

• 26:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly. So what's the point here? So it, it, it happens still under whose reign? Biden's reign. This has been a rough last 30 days for Biden with everything that's going on legacy wise. One after another, after another. Let's go to the one in Vegas, Rob. So in Vegas, there's a Tesla, okay? Truck parked outside of Trump Tower, one of the Trump hotels, which we stay at that hotel all the time. It's a great hotel. And you see this clip here. Is this the explosion, Rob?

• 27:23Speaker 06

  Yes, sir.

• 27:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's see this one here. Go for it.

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• 28:01Patrick Bet-David?

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• 28:14Speaker 06

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• 28:18Speaker 06

  Is it confirmed that he's the one that's dead? Is the guy, is the army guy that, was he in the car?

• 28:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read you what I got and then we'll get into it. So by the way, the same guy, a Tesla Cybertruck filled with fuel canisters and firework mortars exploded outside of the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas, killing the driver and injuring seven people. Las Vegas Sheriff Kevin McCall, McHill, Mick Mahill, said the truck started to smoke, then exploded, and dramatic footage of the explosion shows bursts of multicolored fireworks shooting in multiple directions.

• 28:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Investigators are exploring if there are any links to the deadly New Orleans attack where 15 died. He noted, "Obviously a Cybertruck, the Trump Hotel. There are a lot of questions that we have to answer. The FBI is investigating the incident as a possible act of terrorism." Special Agent Jeremy Schwartz said, "I know everybody's interested in that word." And trying to see if we can say, "Hey, this is a terrorist attack." That is our goal, and that's what we're trying to do. However, they have not found any evidence connecting the explosion to the Islamic State. Is this the fellow saying that, Rob? Is this the same thing that I just read or something else?

• 29:26Speaker 07

  Uh, this clip right here is them discussing the evidence that was found in the back of the Cybertruck and why more people weren't injured when the Cybertruck exploded.

• 29:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's watch this. The fire initially, um, they covered it with the tarp to try to get it to go out. Uh, once the fire went out through the suppression efforts of the fire department, you'll see, um, some of the evidence in the back of the vehicle.

• 29:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So those are gasoline canisters, they are, um, camp fuel canisters, and large firework mortars. Look at the side of the Tesla. Nothing happened to it.

• 30:01Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 30:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But I also would like you to pay attention to on that video, as you see that, it looks like the exterior of that truck is completely intact as it sits there. The fact that this was a Cybertruck, um, really limited the damage that occurred inside of the valet because it, it had most of the blast go up through the truck and out. In fact, if you look- On that video, you'll see that the front glass doors at the Trump Hotel were not even broken by that blast. That is. They were parked directly in front of. That is unbelievable. Tragic event. Unbelievable commercial for Tesla, by the way.

• 30:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I mean, that's the design. When you put a bomb like that, you wanna, you, you, you, you have three things. You have the, you have the heat and fire of the blast. You have then concussion and then you, you create, everything around it becomes projectile. The glass breaks on the front of the windows and that becomes projectiles. That just has a horrible effect on people nearby. And here you have the law enforcement stating, look, the front windows weren't even broken.

• 31:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And what's he saying here, Rob?

• 31:05Speaker 07

  This is where they credit Elon Musk. Elon Musk helped investigators determine who the driver was by tracing down the route that he went through the different Tesla supercharging stations. He also helped them get inside of the vehicle because the vehicle locked once it exploded.

• 31:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Had some data for him.

• 31:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip. Yeah, I have to thank Elon Musk specifically. He gave us quite a bit of additional information in regards to how the vehicle was locked after it exploded due to the force of the nature or the nature of the force from the explosion. As well as being able to capture all of the video from the Tesla charging stations across the country. And they were sent, he sent that directly to us. So I appreciate his help on that.

• 31:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And he, and because of the, the diagnostics of the car, he, he said yesterday, this wasn't a vehicle thing. He said, it's either fireworks and/or a bomb that was in the back.

• 31:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question, Tom. I got a question for you with that one right there. So what information did Elon give to the authorities?

• 32:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, the, the authorities are stating that they received the public security camera footage from the Tesla supercharger stations.

• 32:13Patrick Bet-David?

  The public?

• 32:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is, this is, well, it's private. It's by, it's by, it's private footage maintained by Tesla. But it's their own security cameras that monitor their charging stations.

• 32:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And then what other information did Tesla give to the authorities?

• 32:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, apparently he helped them unlock the car and also helped them with, I guess, who the registered owner.

• 32:35Patrick Bet-David?

  After the explosion.

• 32:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Or who rented it, yeah.

• 32:38Patrick Bet-David?

  After the explosion took place. Okay.

• 32:41Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what the authorities were saying.

• 32:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, so.

• 32:44Patrick Bet-David?

  How different is that than what happened with Apple and Tim Cook when they asked them to give the information on the phone at the San Bernardino shooting 12 years, whatever that shooting was 12 years ago, I think it was maybe 10 years ago. Can you see when that shooting was robbed, the San Bernardino shooting was when? It was definitely under Obama, when you say 15, 2015? Yeah, well, he didn't give that over. Yeah. Uh, the FBI requested Apple create software to suspect in the 2015 shooting. The FBI wanted the software to accept that to correct when was found. So, can you go back and I want to see what was given to him? Can you go back to that sheriff to see what was given to that, to that clip? And what did he say was given? Is it just basic information or?

• 33:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I have to thank Elon Musk specifically. Um, he gave us quite a bit of additional information in regards to how the vehicle was locked after it exploded due to the force of the nature or the nature of the force from the explosion. Yeah. As well as being able to capture all of the video from the Tesla charging stations across the country and they were sent, he sent that directly to us. So I appreciate his help on that. Okay, so it's not? Yeah, it's not personal stuff inside the vehicle. It's just like, hey, listen, we know where this guy was.

• 34:01Tom Ellsworth?

  But think about how helpful that is. Um, it says, hey, we've got video from the charging stations, our public cameras that are out there in public.

• 34:08Patrick Bet-David?

  That's super helpful.

• 34:09Tom Ellsworth?

  And saying, was he alone or not? So, and I don't know what Elon said, but you could say whether there was one person, two person in the, in the truck, which would the guy look like?

• 34:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Super helpful.

• 34:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Very helpful because you want to know, just like, well, New Orleans is, they believe by security camera that there's up to three or four other people in New Orleans that were planting devices, right? So Elon Musk is helping them. Hey, here's the charging station stuff so you can see.

• 34:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You ever seen the movie, uh, Horrible Bosses? Have you ever seen a movie Horrible Bosses?

• 34:38Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 34:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, have you seen a movie Horrible Bosses?

• 34:41Speaker 06

  It's just Charlie Day, Jason Bateman.

• 34:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You haven't seen it? Really, you haven't seen it?

• 34:44Speaker 06

  Jason Sudeikis, what?

• 34:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So at the end of the movie, when he's outside, Kevin Spacey, and he's saying what he's saying.

• 34:51Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 34:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And the, the, the car is recording what he's saying. I don't know if you remember that scene.

• 35:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, of course, of course, that's, that's, it's like the ending scene, how they basically get him.

• 35:04Patrick Bet-David?

  The car is recording and hearing what he's saying. Then when the cops show up, the car repeats everything that he said. Kevin Spacey said, obviously it's comical when this is taking place. But, uh, you know, a, and a little bit of a, little bit of a interesting angle here of what types of information Tesla is gonna have, because it's a computer driving around. So a Tesla, if you, if you decide to do something with a Tesla, hey, they're gonna find out what you're doing, essentially, especially because they have all this intel. To be able to say, he said, to track the driving, like what areas they went through, that's kinda like the phone, right? Find my...

• 35:49Speaker 06

  Find my iPhone.

• 35:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Find my iPhone, or whatever it is.

• 35:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, he gave, uh, Jake messaged me, he gave them telemetry check showing that all systems were green before the explosion. So everything is basically on file of what your car is doing.

• 36:01Speaker 07

  Yeah, there's a...

• 36:01Speaker 06

  It's all in a computer.

• 36:02Speaker 07

  There's a, a monitor inside, a camera inside, so the way that the autopilot works for the computer, for the Tesla, you have to have a, a monitor inside that's recording you at all times, and it actually monitors your eyes to make sure that your eyes are on the road. If you divert your eyes from the road, say you look down at your phone, the, the system inside the car will notify you so that you then have to manually steer the vehicle. So there's always a camera running inside of the Tesla vehicle at all times.

• 36:29Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you feel about that?

• 36:32Speaker 06

  Especially with all the crazy stuff you do in your car.

• 36:33Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm just curious. How do you feel about it?

• 36:35Speaker 07

  I don't like it, but unfortunately I've traded the ease of convenience for privacy. I'd rather be able to drive automatically and I just know that everything that I'm saying inside of that car is being recorded. It could be accessed at any point.

• 36:48Patrick Bet-David?

  How long does it take until the world accepts Minority Report? How long, how long until? Predictive analytics, predictive. How long until, how long will we fight it until it becomes acceptable? Let me, let me ask the question one more time. Yeah, of course. How long will we fight it until it becomes acceptable? Fight what exactly?

• 37:07Speaker 07

  I was just gonna say, at what level?

• 37:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Predictive analytics? He, Rob was, he says, "I traded my privacy for convenient." What was the word used? Convenient?

• 37:16Speaker 07

  The ease of convenience.

• 37:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Ease of convenience.

• 37:17Speaker 07

  Just like secu- like just like security when they're like,

• 37:19Patrick Bet-David?

  It's happening, right?

• 37:20Speaker 07

  Just like with the Patriot Act. They're like, "Listen, because of terrorism, we need to monitor you." How long? How long till you get to that?

• 37:27Patrick Bet-David?

  We learned during COVID that in 2021, I think Tesla hit, I think a trillion dollar market cap. And I think they've been up and down since then. I know they had a rough start to 2024 and I think they're bouncing back. But are, were they a car company? Were they a green energy company? And someone goes, "No, no, no, they're a data company. They collect your data. Look at this now." But by the way, I vividly remember the 2015, 2016 San Bernardino shooting when Tim Cook refused to open up the iPhone. On this particular situation, why did you make that correlation, PBD? Because I know that's something that you were. No, no, to me, where I'm going to is, I'm going to the area of thinking, you know,

• 38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  okay, four weeks ago, three weeks ago, we're doing a podcast. And if you remember, on that podcast, what had happened where I read that, the drones? Remember when the drones attack happened? Of course. Then I explained the story of the guy that said, "Anytime you're seeing UFOs or, you know, stuff like this that's happening, it's a psy-op." To be able to get the next Patriot Act, the next whatever act that they want to get in there to say, "See, we need this because with this, and we're gonna reun- all of a sudden, we need this in order for us to be able to..." I don't know if you remember when we talked about that for five weeks. Of course, approachment on your rights. I don't know. I think, I think, you know, we, we, we have to be...

• 38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, we have to catch the bad guys and identify exactly what happened and get to the bottom of it. But at what cost to convince the rest of American people to say, hey, if you all comply and allow us to record your, all your behavior, we will be able to prevent future crimes from taking place and we can eliminate all this stuff. Then imagine everything is like, right now, you can be talking and an ad pops up because you were talking about it with your wife and that, so you're already being watched and heard 24/7, whether you know it or not, Alexa, phone, Siri.

• 39:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Everything.

• 39:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you were gonna say something.

• 39:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No, you just made the point, and I was gonna add to that. The Nest thermostat said, and we have a motion detector on it, so if you're not in the room or that side of the house, we'll, we'll let the, we won't have your air conditioning or heating working that hard, we'll let it go down a couple of degrees. Well, then they found out that it was actually a camera that was in their Nest thermostat. So it's exactly what you're talking about. So your Nest thermostat's got a camera, your Alexa's got a thing, and they're thinking about ad targeting. So they're thinking about, how do we sell you more and the advertising targeting, exactly what you're talking about. But a short step from that is NSA, basically, the evil sister of the FBI, basically has

• 40:10Tom Ellsworth?

  all that information on citizens, so now you have citizen surveillance. And that's what you're talking about. And I think one of the answers to it is, we are, right now, losing more privacy with every technical generation. Oh, Samsung refrigerators, that know what's in the refrigerator and they have that panel on the front of the refrigerator, so that with every technological innovation, you are already losing. And if you don't think that the NSA and the FBI are looking for ways to accumulate information on citizens, they're not waiting for a terrorist attack. That's how they passed the legislation, like the Patriot Act. But they're already out there collecting the data.

• 40:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, this is, this is, Humberto just sent this. Yes, Tesla vehicles regularly send information back to Tesla servers, including operational diagnostic data, which helps them improve their systems and diagnose potential issues. However, most camera recordings are processed. Within the car and only uploaded with the driver's consent through the data sharing settings, usually only in the event of a collision or the safety concerns, other safety concerns. So they're asking you and you're letting them, which is great. It's, it's totally fair. Like you know how the thing with Facebook, the ads and you'd Google and hey, you never gave that permission. It just, they did it, right? And then it went into the permission. So it's not like they're not compliant.

• 41:34Patrick Bet-David?

  All I'm saying is gradually you're like, well, what's the big deal? What's the big deal? What's the big deal? Oh shit. What was the big deal? Damn. Every behavior. So look, of course, we want to know exactly what happened here and we want to get the intel of what happens here. But it has to, the way massive change happens is the temperature goes guilt, guilt, guilt, guilt, boom, you break. Okay, I'm sorry. I can't handle this embarrassment. You got me. Yes, do it. And we're like, no, what the, what are we doing? No, no. And no matter who the person is, no, I'm not with it. I'm not, and listen, respect, great job, awesome on all your success, I'm not going there. That's where we're not going.

• 42:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, I don't know. This, this, this part to me, I want to know the link between the two, if there's any. The other events happened at 3:15. Rob, when did this event happen? Do we know the exact time of this event and how, how different the times, uh, time are between the two? Cause one of them, it looks like it was bright. Yeah, one was in, looked like the daytime. You know.

• 42:40Speaker 07

  Eight thirty-nine AM, uh, but that's the west coast time. So it would have been eleven thirty our time.

• 42:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So eleven thirty, so eleven. And the other one is New Or- is New Orleans central or is New Orleans east coast? Central, central. One hour, one hour behind. So if New Orleans is one hour behind. Yeah, it was four AM. And that's eight thirty. So it's one thirty. So it's five hours. So, so, so New Orleans happened, no, it's the other way around. New Orleans happened first. Yes. Then the other one happened six hours later, if I'm not mistaken, give or take. Correct. So New Orleans, Tesla, six hours later. Yes, yes. I don't know if that six hours is. Well, are you saying this? Some some sort of correlation with these two? You have to consider it and you have to look at the, you know, the, the, what is the word? The, the idea that it happened that closely to each other? I have to look at those.

• 43:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And I guess the question I have, are these lone wolves looking for soft targets?

• 43:34Speaker 06

  I don't believe.

• 43:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Some sort of?

• 43:36Speaker 06

  I, I don't believe, I, I don't believe that these things just happen randomly. Like, you know what the, the, the symbolism of driving the car of the guy that's coming into Trump's cabinet? One of the main guys that's controversial as hell, parking that vehicle in the front of Trump? Towel, like in front of Trump's hotel? And you being a stupid moron that's the most metal around the truck thing is, by the way, this guy's 37 years in the, in the army veteran. He was in special forces or whatever the hell he's in.

• 44:06Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy from the Tesla?

• 44:07Speaker 06

  The guy in the Tesla.

• 44:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So do they know who he is?

• 44:09Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 44:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause we've heard all about the guy that did the New Orleans.

• 44:11Speaker 06

  His name is Matthew Liversberger from Colorado Springs.

• 44:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You said that he's served in the army as well?

• 44:16Speaker 06

  Army.

• 44:17Patrick Bet-David?

  In the same unit?

• 44:17Speaker 06

  Well, he was from Fort Bragg, same, same base.

• 44:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, a lot of soldiers, like a small city.

• 44:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 44:22Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I get it, I get it. It's like saying I'm from the same city of 30,000 people.

• 44:26Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 44:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Some number. I get it, I get it. But the same day, same time?

• 44:29Speaker 06

  Well, hold on, but, but, but Tesla, Trump in the front, but you use that car? Like what a, what a dumbass.

• 44:36Patrick Bet-David?

  52,000 soldiers at Fort Bragg, just so you guys know.

• 44:38Speaker 06

  That's a small city.

• 44:39Patrick Bet-David?

  But they know who he is, this guy, Matthew Livers, whatever.

• 44:41Speaker 06

  I, I want my thing.

• 44:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And but he, he killed himself? Is he the only person that died?

• 44:44Speaker 06

  He's, he was in the car. He was the one that died.

• 44:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And nobody else died?

• 44:47Speaker 06

  No.

• 44:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, good.

• 44:48Speaker 06

  Well, but, but the intention of what, what he was trying to do, and you nailed it, Adam. What, what's the purpose? What's this simulta- this doesn't happen just by randomly these both guys that are doing this type of act? And they're both veterans of the army.

• 45:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Are they both the same age, Rob? Cause Matthew.

• 45:03Speaker 07

  They're five year difference, cause Matthew's 37 and the guy from New Orleans is 42.

• 45:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Five years apart. Is there any indication that, that this is anything with Islamic extremism or ISIS? Is there anything with that? Because we know a ton on this other guy.

• 45:15Speaker 06

  This guy, we, we.

• 45:16Patrick Bet-David?

  We don't know anything about him?

• 45:17Speaker 06

  They don't know yet.

• 45:17Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean they don't know yet?

• 45:18Speaker 06

  Everything on this other guy. Well, that's the point. Here's my thing, Adam.

• 45:21Speaker 07

  They raided his home. I have a news clip if you want to.

• 45:24Speaker 06

  Okay, this is the Vegas guy. What's this?

• 45:25Speaker 07

  Yeah, he lives in, uh, this is, so he originally lives in Colorado Springs. The vehicle was rented out of Colorado on Toro and here is the news outside of his home.

• 45:33Speaker 06

  Okay, so one guy is Texas slash New Orleans and the other guy is completely Colorado.

• 45:37Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think that besides the Ford Bragg connection, the other big connection here is the Toro app. It's not an app that's used in every state. Not every state, not every city has access to the Toro app. It's still rolling out and in development. I don't know if you guys have ever used a Toro app. It's basically like using enterprise rental car through an app.

• 45:54Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:54Speaker 07

  But it's you're renting people's personal vehicles.

• 45:57Speaker 06

  People's cars, yeah.

• 45:57Speaker 07

  Not like an actual company's vehicle. If I want to borrow Vinnie's Toyota Celica or whatever.

• 46:02Speaker 06

  Corona, Corona. Have a little respect.

• 46:03Speaker 07

  I would use the Toro app to rent it.

• 46:05Speaker 06

  It's Airbnb for cars.

• 46:06Speaker 07

  Exactly. Here's the news reporting on the raid of the guy's home.

• 46:10Speaker 06

  And yeah, she's cute.

• 46:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm Maggie Bryan on the east side of Colorado Springs where the FBI is investigating a town home. They say is linked to the driver of the Cybertruck that exploded in Las Vegas Wednesday morning. Several law enforcement officials confirm 37-year-old Matthew Lival's burger died in the vehicle. Officials also confirm he lived in Colorado Springs. Now, El Paso County records point to several addresses linked to him. The FBI says this home is one of them. It's near Stetson Hills Boulevard and North Mark Shuffle Road on the east side of the city. Our team saw FBI agents out here for several hours Wednesday evening, many of them leaving though around midnight. This vehicle behind me, one of the last ones left. It's now 1:15 in the morning. This home is about three miles away from a Colorado Springs police substation

• 46:55Patrick Bet-David?

  where we saw a few armored vehicles in the parking lot Wednesday night. An FBI agent here on scene tells me they expect to be back out here on Thursday morning. We'll keep you updated with any more information that we learn on air and online at KOAA.com.

• 47:09Speaker 06

  Can we play a little devil's advocate? Cause you know, everybody online is like, you know, this is something bigger, something bigger's happened. If it is people behind this trying to brainwash and, and make these people happen, these are the homegrown ones, then the, then the upcoming ones that came through the border are going to start doing this attack. What would be the end game? To get us into war? But this guy's not a regular.

• 47:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Guy, this guy was a special forces. That's what I'm saying. Pull up, pull up the story like breaking down. I just was reading through this. I think it's good for us to read it to the audience. Says, who was Matthew Liversberger, the US Army veteran named a suspect? If you go a little bit lower on the story I just sent you, it tries to see if there's any kind of a comparison between the two. Two nerves, in addition, Jabar rented their vehicles. We know that authorities are wrestling in a possible link between the two. At the time they were fighting in the Middle East, the US had around a hundred thousand military personnel in Afghanistan as part of Barack Obama's troop surge. According to CBS, law enforcement sources said that Liversberger was on active duty with the army, serving in Germany and was on leave in Colorado at the time of the incident.

• 48:11Patrick Bet-David?

  His wife allegedly hadn't heard from him in several days. And Liversberger spent eighteen of his nineteen years in the army career with special forces. According to his LinkedIn profile, he is believed to have joined the Greenbrier as a communication specialist in January of two thousand and six before becoming an operator. This guy said BMF.

• 48:30Patrick Bet-David?

  The profile picture on the account shows a man sporting winter gear, armed with assault rifles, standing on top of a snowmobile. His most recent role November twenty twenty four was listed as a remote autonomous systems manager for the army. He earned a summa cum laude, an award given to the students earning the highest grade in their class. After graduating from Norway University in Vermont with a degree in strategic studies and defense analysis. According to also states, he earned Department of State Meritorious Honor Award for inter-agency contributions that resulted in increased interoperability and efficiency while serving as the operations surgeon, special operations command forward. Liversberger often commented on posts from military personnel and a comment on a viral post from an Air Force veteran.

• 49:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He responded to a question noting that the government was responsible for making people believe they were responsible for other student debt. Okay, interesting. Erasing student debts was a signature Biden era policy. At the age of 22, he began collecting clothes, toys, and educational items for children and disseminating of humanitarian aid while serving a tour in Afghanistan. He told the US News Journal in the native Ohio, appealing to US citizens for donations in January 20, he told the outlet, handing out humanitarian assistance continues to be one of the few approaches of gaining credibility and loyalty of the people of Afghanistan, and I believe you directly contributed to our success at ground level. His wife, believed to be Sarah, wrote on Facebook in May of 2016 that she was registered Democrat.

• 49:55Patrick Bet-David?

  She posted a picture of a graphic commissioned by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee appearing to show Trump, which read, "Stop bigotry." She captioned the, okay, so this is now, let's see where this goes. She captioned a post, "Perks of being a registered Democrat. I can't wait to slap this baby on my truck." She shared photographs of two together, posted almost a decade ago. In one image from April 2016, the pair posed for a selfie with Liversburger sporting a camel backpack. In another, July 2015, she, Liversburger can be seen with a tattoo of a bald eagle and American flag on his shoulder, as he posed with a dog. A Facebook account that appears to belong to him shows a heavily tattooed man holding a baby when its profile picture updated in September of 20, it's just three months ago.

• 50:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Detailed on Sarah Facebook page information released, that age match report from officials, one page from, it's my old ass husband's 28th birthday. Sources, the Bureau, very interesting. At this time, we are investigating a number of leads, I'm not prepared. Very interesting to see where they're at. I have a totally different take that I'm gonna bring up there. So, this, this is inspired by a text that Vinnie sent in our group chat for the prep. And he said, "It's January 1st, you know, first day of the year, we already have our first terror attack." Boom. And I'm like, where have I heard that before? And it was actually one year ago, on January 1st, 2024, when you basically sent the exact same text.

• 51:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And I was like, what the hell happened there? And then Rob, I sent it to you. January 1st, in the morning, you know, after midnight, there was an attack at the Kodak Center in Rochester, New York, when a thousand guests were attending a New Year's Eve concert. Here it is, right here. This guy rented a 2023 Ford Expedition with gasoline canisters and basically drove it into this concert, I think. How many people died? Nine people died, I want to say.

• 51:54Patrick Bet-David?

  But the point is this. What's the correlation there? And this had nothing to do with ISIS. This guy's American. Here's my opinion. Ready? The holiday season. Man, if you're going through some stuff, this is the worst time to be alone. This is the worst time to have issues. PBD, you remember this. November of 2019. I text you. I say, PBD, are you gonna be in Alba in Dallas? You said, no, I'm not. I'm not gonna be there. Yeah. I said, I'm gonna be in town. This is when you were going through challenges? Yes. And I was like, I gotta see you. And at the time, my father had just died.

• 52:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And my girlfriend, who I was living with, was facing cancer, struggling with cancer. So I met with you. That was November. And that Christmas was the lowest point of my life. Lowest point of my life. Why? Because usually I go spend Thanksgiving with the girl that I'm dating's family. And we had just kind of... She's dealing with treatment. Then Christmas, I usually, I haven't dated a Jewish girl like over a decade, so usually I'm with my girlfriend's family, in this particular instance, in Detroit. And I couldn't go visit her because she's dealing with chemo and everything with that. So you know me. I'm out. I'm about. I'm having a good time. Very jovial. Have friends.

• 53:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Never in my life have I dealt with depression like I did on Christmas of 2019. Never in my life. Now, nothing drastic like this. And that's for someone who's got things going on in their life, successful, good connections, good mental health. But dealing with the loss of my father, but especially the with my girlfriend at the time, who was dealing with cancer, the lowest point of my life. So take these people's situations. The first guy, what? Divorced, financial situations, struggling, who knows what's going on? There's a reason that they do it right around January 1st. It's the end of the holiday season. They're probably by themselves. They have major issues, major health issues, of a mental health issues.

• 54:09Patrick Bet-David?

  All this is going on and then boom, January 1st fireworks.

• 54:13Speaker 06

  But Adam, but ICE, like to have ISIS and be inspired by ISIS, which started when, when Obama with 2011 withdrawing from Iraq and then arming the Syrian rebels, which basically sparked it. But in fact, but you.

• 54:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, but the Vegas guy had nothing to do with ISIS.

• 54:26Speaker 06

  No, it's a Vegas guy, but no.

• 54:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, hold, stay on this.

• 54:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 54:28Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy last year had nothing to do with ISIS. But that's my point is that there's so much going on. And then ISIS is the, is the, is the last sprinkle for this one particular guy.

• 54:39Speaker 06

  That's a huge, I mean, that's not a regular sprinkle.

• 54:41Patrick Bet-David?

  On this one case, brother.

• 54:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, I get it.

• 54:43Patrick Bet-David?

  There's other instances, there's no indication that the guy in Vegas had anything to do with ISIS or exhumation.

• 54:48Speaker 06

  Well, we don't know nothing because they're not telling us anything.

• 54:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Matthew Lesesberger?

• 54:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, which, which.

• 54:51Patrick Bet-David?

  His name isn't, uh.

• 54:52Speaker 06

  Well, but, but doesn't it strike you weird that Pat just did a freaking, all, all, all that story on him? How do we know so much about these guys in less than 12 hours? It's like they, they're feeding us all this information. But when it comes to like assassination attempts, you still don't know nothing of these, zero, zero of this, of these people. It's just weird how they just like, dude, we know this guy's medications, his wife, his dog. You know, everything about this guy's history in less than 12 hours. But when it comes to that stuff, we don't know nothing.

• 55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean we didn't know nothing? We found out the guy that tried to kill Trump on the golf course. He was, he served in Ukraine. He was out there basically being a part of that protest. We learned a lot about him. The guy that went on top of the roof, we learned a lot about him. When you say, when you say we didn't know nothing, that's not exactly accurate. There's two things here. Let's, let's go to the next story. Both tragic. I'm sure we're going to get more stories that's coming in here. The FBI has more pressure today. That lady's look on her face, the FBI person that, you know, a lot of people are saying is a DI hire. You know why she sounded nervous? Because a new guy's coming in town and she's probably going to get fired. She's not going to have that job that she had before. I don't know, was, was she with the FBI, Rob?

• 55:56Speaker 07

  Yes, her name is Special Agent Duncan.

• 55:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, a lot of this stuff's going to be changing. Did you see the old lady? But let me, let me just, let me just give you this. That's a complete different thing for us to move on. The 81 year old, yes, the 80 some year old. She runs the New Orleans police.

• 56:08Tom Ellsworth?

  81 year old grandma.

• 56:09Speaker 06

  You know she hit two people with her car in August, you know that right? She hit.

• 56:13Tom Ellsworth?

  This lady?

• 56:14Speaker 06

  She.

• 56:15Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the lady that runs the New Orleans.

• 56:16Speaker 06

  Her name is Kirkpatrick. She hit two people with her car in August and about to drive me funny. Look that up, Rob.

• 56:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Who is this? The Joe Biden of policing? What is happening here?

• 56:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we play this real quick, Rob?

• 56:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Sure.

• 56:29Speaker 03

  In order to conduct this.

• 56:31Patrick Bet-David?

  She's 81?

• 56:32Speaker 03

  He was hell bent.

• 56:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sorry.

• 56:33Speaker 07

  Late 60s.

• 56:34Speaker 03

  On creating the carnage.

• 56:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Who said 81?

• 56:38Speaker 03

  Because of the nature and the indices that we have.

• 56:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Did she really hit two people?

• 56:43Speaker 06

  Look up Ann Kirkpatrick driving over two people. Go ahead, Rob.

• 56:47Speaker 07

  It says she was born in 1959.

• 56:49Speaker 06

  Okay, and Rob.

• 56:49Speaker 07

  65 to 60 century.

• 56:51Speaker 06

  Rob, can you look up Ann Kirkpatrick, New Orleans Police Chief, running over two people in August? And then by the way, she used to be the head of police in Oakland where she was fired. Then she sued them and got us a 1.5 million dollar settlement.

• 57:03Tom Ellsworth?

  So where did this come from? A news report, like according to a news report?

• 57:06Speaker 06

  That's right there. Former chief investigated for hitting two people while driving in New Orleans.

• 57:09Tom Ellsworth?

  So she's under, she, okay, so she's under investigation according to this news report?

• 57:14Speaker 06

  No, this is August 5th.

• 57:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So it's four months ago. This is from our goal at low, Rob. Former Oakland Chief of Investigation is being investigated for hitting two people in New Orleans. The incident happened Saturday and a woman was treated for minor injuries and a man was uninjured. According to local reports, New Orleans Police has a breathalyzer test returned with zero. And investigation is now being turned over to state police. Okay.

• 57:33Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 57:34Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. So, but going back to the point, if, let me just make my point so we can get to the next story. She seems very lovely, by the way, in that picture. But, you know, she, going through this story here. You know, it's crazy. I'm reading this book right now. I'm behind like so many books. I'm trying to catch up on the books, but one of the books I'm reading is called The Courage to be Disliked. Okay? And it says something very interesting in the book. It says, a well, you know, a well, water well. Do you know what the average degree of a water well is no matter what the temperature is outside?

• 58:08Tom Ellsworth?

  What is it?

• 58:08Patrick Bet-David?

  18 degrees.

• 58:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wow.

• 58:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, watch what it says. Watch what it says. It says, so whether it's whatever degree outside, the water well is always 18 degrees. And then it says, when you drink the water in the summer, because it's hotter, it feels cooler. When you drink the water in the winter, because it's cold outside, it feels warmer.

• 58:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you get it? So it's never changing its temperature based on what happens on the outside.

• 58:46Patrick Bet-David?

  It only changes the temperature, never. You think, "Oh, my God, it's so cold outside. Let me go drink some water from the well." "Oh, my God, this is so warm. This tastes so good." "Oh, my God, it's so hot outside. Man, I need something cool to cool off." You drink the water from the well. Everybody outside of the water well is changing, but you're staying the same. And in a book, it breaks down the Alderian psychology. This is by Alfred Adler. The Adlerian psychology. Rob, if you type in Adlerian psychology, look what it says. And then put "trauma" next to it if you could. Put "trauma" next to it. Yeah, if you could do that. So let's see, uh, uh, let's just read the top there if you could. Zoom in a little bit. And put "show more" if you could. Okay.

• 59:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Alfred Adlerian psychology, also known as individual psychology, has a unique perspective on trauma and how it can choose to be affected by. Trauma is not a cause. Adler believed that people don't suffer from the shock of trauma, but instead make meaning of their experiences to suit their purposes. Meaning like, "My life is so hard because you don't know what I went through."

• 59:48Patrick Bet-David?

  "I'm going through these challenges because nobody ever supports me and da-da-da-da." It's like that guy on Manek that said, "This guy conned me. This guy did this. My last partner took $75,000 from me and all this other stuff." And I respond back to him, I say, "You're not gonna like this message here." Everybody, if everybody around you is taking advantage of you, you, my friend, are a crap magnet. The problem isn't the people, it's you. Okay? Watch what he continues to explain here. He believes that people are self-determined by the meaning they give to their experiences. You. People choose how trauma affects them. Adler believed that people choose how trauma affects their present and future lives, rather than being defined by it.

• 1:00:29Patrick Bet-David?

  He believed that people use their past or other circumstances to justify their behavior. Trauma is misunderstood. Adler believed that trauma and cause and effect are misunderstood. He believed that assuming past events drive the present is a form of determinism.

• 1:00:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Adler believed that all problems interpersonal relationship problems, therapy approach treating trauma that uses a range of techniques to explore personal problems with their socio-cultural context. Adlerian therapists examine an individual's style of life to help clients process traumatic experiences. You know what this means? You know, the other guy made it in Hollywood because the people around him, they just took care of him. That's what it was. But maybe that's your way of hiding the fact that you don't work as hard. You know, that guy, that guy made it in, in sports because, you know, his father had money and that's why he made it into the next level. There's a lot of rich people that the kids don't make it to the next level. But it's, it's an out.

• 1:01:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, he made his money because he's a con man and he's this, this, that. That's your way of, like, I had guys in the insurance company that would blame. Every time my number one guy would win, there was a handful of people behind closed doors that would message me telling me about how bad of a person that number one was. I'm like, dude, relax. If this is your way justifying why he is winning and you're not, it's trauma. So what is this going with? I think we collectively, when you have a rough life, you have to try to find a way to let the madness happen outside of you as much as it happens. And the hardest thing in life to do is for you to stay at 18 degrees. It's the hardest thing to do. Marriage, kids, family, finance, business, career, content.

• 1:02:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to try to just stay right here. Let everybody change. Let everybody lose their minds. You stay here. And eventually it drives people insane that they can't affect you. A lot of these folks that are going through these types of moments and traumatic moments, if they don't have somebody to talk to, to say, hey, bro, it's not as bad as you think it is. It's not as bad as you think it is. I interviewed a guy that was a guy jumping off a bridge. And what happens the moment you let go of the survivors? They interviewed every single person that ever made a jump off the Bay Bridge. And the ones that live, every one of them said, the moment you let go,

• 1:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  you regret your decision. The moment.

• 1:03:02Speaker 06

  Wow, not on the way down.

• 1:03:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no. They said, the moment you let go, you're like, what am I doing? It's not worth it. You start thinking about your mom, your dad, your kids, your family, everybody. I don't know, man. I, I, I just think we need to go back to finding ways to increase the identity of the American people. Finding ways to get people to realize it's not as bad as you think it is. Finding ways on how for people to deal with trauma where you don't believe, like because of what you experienced as a kid. That's why you're not going to win in life. We all have dealt with a lot of shit in life that it's our out to not have to give our best and escape it. You know, fight, flight, freeze, flight. Let me go do what I'm doing here right now. Join ISIS.

• 1:03:43Patrick Bet-David?

  It's my form of flight and suicide. Suicide is flight. Giving up is flight. Quitting is flight. Fighting's hard. No one wants to fight. It's tough. It's annoying. There's opposition. But we gotta find a way to do it. And this, this, for the right person, this message is gonna hit. For the wrong person, you're distracted doing something else. I respect both of you guys. But if the right person received this message, maybe go order this book. Uh, it seems like a very, very interesting book that I can't put down right now as I'm going through it. Anyways, okay, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. And we got quite a few of them here as we're going through this. So next story I'm gonna go through is California. New California regulation requires insurance companies to offer coverage in high-risk areas.

• 1:04:27Patrick Bet-David?

  This is very problematic, guys. It sounds like a noble thing the state is doing. Again, they're making a mistake that's gonna end up hurting citizens. Let me read this to you. California Insurance Commission Ricardo Lara announced a new regulation requiring insurers to offer coverage in wildfire-prone areas. Mandating companies write policies covering 85% of their statewide market share in high-risk regions with 5% increments. Every two years, Lara called it a historic moment for California, stating Californians deserve a reliable insurance market that doesn't treat, retreat.

• 1:05:01Patrick Bet-David?

  From communities most vulnerable to wildfires and climate change. Yeah, okay, you think you're gonna make that decision? You definitely don't understand capitalism. To prevent model shopping, insurance must use a single pricing model for consumers and reinsurance under the regulation. Laura explained the reform balances protecting consumers with the need to strengthen our market against climate risks, ensuring in-state consumers are not impacted by insurance costs for other high-risk areas like the Gulf Coast. Tom, I got thoughts on this, but I'm gonna come to you first.

• 1:05:31Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I'm gonna get a little technical, but I'm gonna do it in a way that people understand. Here's what they're saying. "Hi, Vinny, you're the CEO of an insurance company." Hi, Tom. "You insure a lot of people for their homes here in California, don't you?" Yes. "We've noticed that you have done very well, State Farm." Thank you. "And you have 22% coverage, market share of insuring homes in California." Thank you. Yes, you do. Well, we're gonna, our new law says that 85% of the 22%, which is about, uh, call it 16. 16%. You have to take 16% of the high-risk policies in the wildlife areas, and you're in wildfire areas. And then you say, "Wait a minute.

• 1:06:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I've done underwriting there, and I don't want to insure those houses. I'd have to raise prices on the other people that I insure. Why are you forcing me to do this?" Well, because otherwise, those people in those wildfire areas wouldn't have coverage. And you're like, "That's not my fault. I've gone to the insurance commission. I have a license to do business in California. Why are you making this my fault?" Guess what? You know what the wildfire causes? Two key causes of the wildfire nobody wants to talk about. Number one, it was poor maintenance of the forestry edge areas where there's inhabited areas. Inhabited areas. Why are they inhabited? Because they were given building permits by the state of California, by the countries, by the cities. So you built a cabin.

• 1:06:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I build a cabin here? Yeah, here's your permit. You built a cabin. But there's been poor maintenance of the edge of the forestry and poor maintenance of PG&E equipment. Most of the fires that were up there... were not random strikes of lightning or thing. It was PG&E equipment sparking, old equipment sparking, poor maintenance and trimming of the forestry areas, leading to wildfires that took out small communities like, uh, that we've, we've heard about. Were cigarettes and stuff, Tom? But this is what they're doing. Eighty-five percent of whatever your market share is, that's the percent of the policies you have to take in these regions. You know what's, you know what that's gonna lead you to do? Well, then, I only wanna have five percent

• 1:07:41Tom Ellsworth?

  market share in California, so I can only have a very small share of the policies in these wildfire areas. I'm sorry. I'm gonna do that, or I'm outta here. I was just gonna say, I'm out. I'm gonna leave California. Of course. Which screws the, the other people in California who are getting it. And they call it model shopping. It's not model shopping. That's a word being used by the government to make it sound like the insurance companies are bad. It's not model shopping when they say, according to our underwriting. And underwriting is nothing more than looking at a large group of homes in the same area and deciding what you're gonna do. And so, now you've got this. And who's doing this? The California Insurance Commissioner, Ricardo Lara, cuz he has a problem. And you know what the problem is? Hmm.

• 1:08:26Tom Ellsworth?

  People are trying to find insurance and they're coming to the insurance commissioner saying, hey, up here where I live in this area, I can't get insurance. You're the insurance commissioner, aren't, isn't your job to make sure insurance is available to Californians? Bingo. So that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to force it, rather than go upstream to the problem and saying, why are there wildfires? Why have there been wildfires? What is the state's responsibility to keep the people safe? Bingo. Wow.

• 1:08:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me, let me, let me explain in a different way, and then I'll, I'll go and read this over to you on what has happened in California. So I Googled homeowners insurers leaving California. That's what I Googled. This one came up for me. Um, many homeowners insurance companies are leaving California, reducing. State Farm announced March of 2023 that it would stop accepting new applications for homeowners insurance in California. And it also announced in summer of 2023 that it would drop, Vinnie, thousands of California policies. Drop. Meaning you have homeowners insurance with us, guess what we're dropping it?

• 1:09:27Speaker 06

  You call me like the insurance company goes, yo, we're done with you?

• 1:09:29Patrick Bet-David?

  They can do that. Yeah, Allstate.

• 1:09:31Tom Ellsworth?

  At the end of your next policy, we will not renew. Have a nice day.

• 1:09:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Allstate announced in November of 2022 that it would pause new policies for homeowners condos and commercial properties in California. So far, do you know State Farm? You've heard of them?

• 1:09:43Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:09:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you heard of Allstate?

• 1:09:45Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:09:45Patrick Bet-David?

  They're leaving California. Let me read the next one to you here. Okay? Farmers Insurance announced that it would cap its homeowners coverage policies each month. Other insurance companies that have reduced coverage in California, AIG and Chubb. You know, one day I get a picture sent to me from Chubb dropping my boat insurance. You know why? Cause I was the captain manning the boat by myself and Chubb said, no, we're not insuring you. You're not a licensed captain. I could in the state of Florida, but Chubb said, no, we're not gonna insure you. What's the point there? Did they do the right thing?

• 1:10:18Speaker 06

  Chubb?

• 1:10:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Dropping the insurance for the boat that they were protecting for a man who's not an experienced captain. Did Chubb do the right thing?

• 1:10:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you do the same thing?

• 1:10:27Speaker 06

  What do you mean? Of course, if I was an insurance company?

• 1:10:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would you do it?

• 1:10:29Speaker 06

  Because you are more, if you're not the captain, the certified captain, then it's a more risk of you crashing the damn thing.

• 1:10:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would you wanna risk the money to protect me if I don't know what I'm doing?

• 1:10:38Speaker 06

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:10:38Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's a large boat with a lot of people on it. It could be hurt.

• 1:10:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch, watch what this company, there are then insurance companies that will insure you based on the collective health of all the employees at the company.

• 1:10:50Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:10:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So for example, let me give you an idea. Say company's got a thousand employees. The average weight of this company and height is 5'9", 250 pounds.

• 1:11:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Fat people.

• 1:11:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, and they're not healthy. They don't take care of themselves, but you are super fit. You don't drink, you don't eat, overeat, you take care of yourself, you exercise five days a week. You're the healthiest. Are you, is your premium gonna be less or more?

• 1:11:19Speaker 06

  More.

• 1:11:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Is your premium more because of you or because of your coworkers?

• 1:11:22Speaker 06

  Because of them.

• 1:11:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly. That's how this works in the state of California right now. What this guy's saying is, We don't care whether you insurance companies are gonna lose money or not in these areas. You better insure them or else. And this is a big victory for California. Watch how many more insurance companies are gonna leave California. And by the way, you can't close your house unless you have homeowner's insurance.

• 1:11:46Speaker 07

  Oh, man.

• 1:11:47Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's how it works. Here's how it works. The way it works is the following. Insurance company is gonna sit there and say, at $8,000 on this house, we're losing money. Okay, what should we do? $13,000. But $13,000 for them is a difference between eight and 13. What's the difference? $5,000.

• 1:12:07Speaker 07

  Five grand.

• 1:12:07Patrick Bet-David?

  What's $5,000 divided by 12 months? $400 a month, right?

• 1:12:13Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 1:12:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That $400 a month, is that a lot of money to an average American trying to buy a house?

• 1:12:17Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:12:18Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a lot of money.

• 1:12:19Speaker 07

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:12:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And you know what they say? You know what? I'm not buying a house. That's what's going on. So what they're doing is they're indirectly hurting realtors in the state of California from being able to buy a house because some 7 to, I don't know what the percentage was, 7% of people back out of buying their house because of homeowner's insurance. So they're going all the way to the process of buying a house, 7%. It's like 1 out of 14 say, I'm out, I'm not buying this house. Purely because of homeowner's insurance. This is a challenge California is gonna be facing. What's the number? Oh, I'm sorry. I gave the number.

• 1:12:54Speaker 07

  Well, this is Florida. It says 11.9%. I'm looking for.

• 1:12:57Patrick Bet-David?

  But what does it say for Florida?

• 1:12:59Speaker 07

  11.9% of homeowners?

• 1:13:01Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I believe that as well because it's two states that are experiencing this. It's California and it's Florida. Okay, and they both, the only difference is Florida is allowing you to compete. There it is. Look at that number right there. I said 7%. It's 7%. According to 2023 survey, California Association of Realtors, 7% of real estate deals in California fell through because buyers couldn't afford, couldn't find affordable homeowner's insurance. This has doubled the rate from the previous year. Double the rate from the previous year. This is such a terrible policy. When, when somebody doesn't understand capitalism and competition, politicians specifically, and they make policies like this thinking they help people.

• 1:13:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch how many stories we're going to hear about in 2025 about homeowners insurance. Adam, I'll come to you last time. We'll go to the next.

• 1:13:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, it's funny that you said that how many stores we're going to see in 2025. Let's talk about how many stories I actually looked at and I saved on my phone from 2024. So you, we all know that I've sort of taken a blue ocean strategy in my life. I don't really, I haven't bought a house. I've played the stock market, bought crypto. I buy REITs when I want to invest in real estate. But look what's going on with the insurance in the housing market right now. Rob, you have those articles I sent you? Here's an article in the Wall Street Journal just earlier this week. Insurance and taxes now cost more than mortgages for many homeowners. I remember when I went to go move into an apartment in 2018 in Miami. I live downtown, you know, right next to your favorite building with the, with the heights. I know you love the heights, PVD. And I moved in and I look at the, at the unit, at sick unit, amazing.

• 1:14:35Tom Ellsworth?

  I go, yeah, how much is the rent? Uh, four grand a month. All right, cool. Uh, if I wanted to buy this, and by the way, this is when interest rates were much lower. What, what were they in 2018? Two, three percent? Three percent. I said, with the taxes, expected maintenance, right? Uh, HOA fees and homeowners insurance. What will my monthly payment be? You know what they said? $8,000. I said, hold on. I could rent it for four or I could buy it for eight. Tell me why I should buy this. The realtor who's trying to sell it to my boy, he's like, look, bro, you should probably just rent. So what I did was just rent and then take that additional $4,000, bought stocks, bought crypto, boom, that's skyrocketed. Great. Obviously the housing has gone up as well.

• 1:15:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I said, this math, this is, this math ain't making sense. So then, all right, homeowners insurance. Rob, if you scroll down to that article right there. Keep going down, there's a graph right there. The share of average mortgage payment going to taxes and insurance has increased exponentially. Is this that article? No, that's not, it's the same. Insurance and taxes. You go a little. Yeah, right there. Right there, yeah. So 10 years ago, it was almost 29% of your average share of payment. Now it's approaching 33%. So you said, hey, is that extra $400, does that mean a lot to the average American? To the average person. That's 4% on a Yep. Half a million dollar house? No question. So Rob, and then I won't go, I won't belabor the point, but go to the other articles I sent you. These are just the headlines, okay?

• 1:16:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Boomers are buying houses had it bad in the eighties, millennials have it worse today. So the housing market is as expensive as all time. Interest rates are obviously not going down, even though when they cut the interest rates, didn't they expect mortgage rates to go down? They didn't really go down. And then what's the other one I sent you? Younger Americans are getting left behind by rising home prices and higher stocks. So if you're the average 25 year old, 30 year old, people, shout out to Monect, because I truly believe that Monect is changing lives with, with a multitude of different things. The most common thing I get is personal finance questions. Hey, man, I know you're sort of the money guy. Let me ask you a question about this. Let me ask you a question that you have no idea how many 20-somethings that are not married, no kids, they go, yeah, I'm thinking about buying a house.

• 1:16:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm thinking about getting into real estate. I'm thinking about, I go, why?

• 1:16:54Tom Ellsworth?

  I go, and I ask them, is now a good time to buy or a bad time to buy? They're like, I don't know. Everyone tells me I should buy, right? Because the Realtors Association have done a great job of saying, if you rent, you're throwing away money. Not really. It's, it's only throwing away money if you don't take that additional four grand, like I did in that instance, and put that into an appreciating asset. So a lot of young people are going to be faced with a lot of difficult decisions. And the decisions that their parents made or their grandparents made like, yeah, buy a house, get a mortgage. Listen, bro, I firmly believe, firmly, firmly, firmly believe. If you don't have kids, if you're not married, if you're not worried about school districts, don't worry about getting a mortgage right now. How many years did Vinnie be like, is now a good time to buy? Is now a good time to buy? The whole three years I've been here. It was not a good time to buy. Still not a good. And look at you now, you're an investor.

• 1:17:40Tom Ellsworth?

  You're killing it.

• 1:17:41Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 1:17:41Tom Ellsworth?

  But the point is this, is it easier or harder to become a homeowner these days?

• 1:17:45Speaker 06

  Hard as hell.

• 1:17:46Tom Ellsworth?

  With these costs?

• 1:17:47Speaker 06

  Especially in California.

• 1:17:48Tom Ellsworth?

  So, what's a definition of crazy? Doing the same thing over and over and over again, expecting different results?

• 1:17:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I think if you're single and you don't have a lot of responsibilities, yes, makes sense. I even wrote, uh, uh,

• 1:17:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I remember the Denver Post. I love that article.

• 1:18:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Came and interviewed and said, "You, you don't own a house? No, I only rent. Why? Because I take the money I put on my businesses. However, is that the one, Rob? Yeah. How long, this is a long time ago.

• 1:18:13Tom Ellsworth?

  2015, I want to say. When was that?

• 1:18:14Speaker 07

  It says 2016, April 28th.

• 1:18:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Long time ago.

• 1:18:18Tom Ellsworth?

  But listen, you got, listen, one thing I gotta tell you, PBD, I know that you got amazing suits. I know you got it going on. You gotta respect the, uh, orange shirt and the bell bottoms.

• 1:18:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Or the pants.

• 1:18:27Speaker 06

  Those are true religion. Those are true religions.

• 1:18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you kidding me? By the way, that's where Tico used to go and play in the dirt all the time.

• 1:18:32Speaker 06

  Oh, that's it?

• 1:18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he just loved to do that. Anyways, all right, let's go to the next story here.

• 1:18:36Speaker 07

  That was actually the first office of one of my businesses.

• 1:18:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that what it is?

• 1:18:41Speaker 07

  No, I'm saying, when most entrepreneurs start in a garage, I'm joking, saying, you know.

• 1:18:45Tom Ellsworth?

  But I do have one quick follow-up.

• 1:18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Why did you firmly believe that? Because for someone like you, how much money were you making at the time?

• 1:18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I, for me, I'm not taking money off the table. I'm purely, you know, I haven't even raised money yet. We raised the first 10 million in 2017. At that time, we've only raised a million bucks. Uh, no, for me, it was about putting money into the business that was growing. Equity, no equity grows faster for me. Like even when Michael Saylor was here the other day, and he's talking about here's what Bitcoin's growing at 49%, 42%, 29%. That's great. Our equity is growing faster than what Bitcoin is. So if your money that you've grown into your own business grows faster than any investment, I'm not going to go out there and do anything else. I mean, at that point, everything I'm making, I'm putting it back into the insurance company. Eventually sell the insurance company for $250 million. You know, that's the rate of return.

• 1:19:35Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's not the, neither are you the average person, neither am I the average person. The average person has a different story. The average person is trying to have a wife and two kids and stable in a place, in a house, and find a way that they can have a mortgage payment. And maybe the property value doubles in seven years or maybe 10 years. And then they take the equity and buy a different property. And that's, that's what the average person is thinking about.

• 1:19:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, but I have one quick, uh, uh, counter-argument.

• 1:20:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:02Tom Ellsworth?

  The average person in America. is broke. Two thirds of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. So if you continue to do today. What the average person does and get a mortgage at seven percent and try to make a down payment. And pay your maintenance insurance taxes.

• 1:20:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to go away from this story.

• 1:20:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm just saying, the average person is broke.

• 1:20:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No, the average person for sure makes sense. All I'm saying to you is. The story is not applicable to everybody. A person living in California right now. Who is thinking about buying a house? Your policies suck. Period. They don't favor you. In the state of California. In some states, it makes sense because there's people coming in, so the demand is going to go higher. How many people are moving to California? The net move to California is not what it used to be. It's not. And the people that are moving to California are moving there for the dream. And nowadays, you don't have to go to California to go into Hollywood. You can do it from Austin. You can do it from Atlanta. You can do it from anywhere. You can nowadays cast and do your, what do you call it? Audition over Zoom. Can do camera video and send it to them.

• 1:21:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So it's a different game. Let's go to the next story. Steve Bannon. Welcomes escalation of mega civil war. Following Elon Musk's. Insulting American workers. Again, this is a media story. Okay, so the headline is written from theirs. Bannon welcomes the escalation of tensions with Musk. And the visa program starting the war on podcast, I think is Rob. Is this the one that I'm reading? Is it the exact same one or is it something else?

• 1:21:29Speaker 07

  This is the one where he tells him to sit down and watch.

• 1:21:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me just read this and then we'll play the clip. Um, I think escalation is good when we get down to it. Remember that they're the ones backpedaling. Is this the one?

• 1:21:40Speaker 07

  No, I don't have that clip. I have a separate.

• 1:21:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Backpedaling and like I said, when an enemy is in retreat, fix bayonets and pursue. Uh, Bannon, who advocates for eliminating the program argued this contradicts Trump's immigration policy. Including mass deportation. Laura Loomer accused, okay, we know this one. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

• 1:21:56Speaker 07

  I've said.

• 1:21:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Many times that Elon came and Elon's money helped organize the grassroots of it. In his engineering mind, he saw what the problem was as we saw it and he supported it. And for that, he gets a place at the table. There's no doubt you should. It's a quarter of a billion dollars in June, not an entire cycle in five months. But that dinner with Sacks and that check from Elon came at Biden's, you know, when Biden, in the debate or right before the debate and Biden, you know, they kind of saw the numbers of where this thing was heading. They're recent converts. We love converts. Hell, I'm a Catholic. We used to be in the convert business, not so much anymore. We can't keep what we got.

• 1:22:43Patrick Bet-David?

  But in the old days, you know, half the saints are missionaries. We love, we loving converts. But the converts sit in the back and study for years and years and years to make sure you understand the faith and you understand the nuances of the faith and understand how you can internalize the faith. Don't come up and go to the pulpit in your first week here and start lecturing people about the way things are going to be. If you're going to do that, we're going to get and we're going to rip your face off. Because you can't beat us. We're not beatable. This army of the awaken is not beatable because we're relentless and we will never surrender and we will never slow down.

• 1:23:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And yes, if you go low, we'll go to the center of the earth.

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• 1:24:18Speaker 07

  Because we're fighting for something that means something. We have a meaning in this. This is why people watch this show. This is why people come to this show and all this great content people provide us. And Ben Burcom's down now, putting his life in danger again. Why do people do this? Why have they done this for years? Why they do it for years at Breitbart? Why did, why did, when Trump started appearing in 13 and 14, we said, that's the guy.

• 1:24:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Okay. So, this is the H1B visa. Tom, from the last conversation that we had on Tuesday. I did a whole episode on this, folks. If you haven't seen it, it's online. What's new on positions that you have from research that you've done? Anything new? Anything changed? Any new angles that you're seeing that maybe we didn't think about before, Tom?

• 1:25:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I won't repeat myself, but I've really dove into the origin under Bush Senior. And it was Bush Senior in 1990 who took what, and I, I didn't realize how really crazy immigration policy was prior to 1990. I think it was like the National Immigration Act or something going back to the 50s. And it put quotas on each country, on how many people could come to the United States. And a lot of people thought that was discriminatory, even racist. And so the H1B was created in 1990, as you pointed out. But what happened? I think a lot of this is going on now. We got people fighting against people. It makes the Democrats happy. That's not new. We've been covering that for two days now.

• 1:25:51Tom Ellsworth?

  But what's interesting is I think the real, and I'll say, you know, villain in all this is this is another unintended consequence of a government program where the government puts a program in place. It's legal and then people use it differently than you intended. That's an unintended consequence. Are companies breaking the law by using it to hire a bunch of people at a somewhat lower rate and say, but wait, I paid for your visa? No, they're not breaking the law. Is, can we look at that and say, is that moral or ethical? Sure, we can. We can judge that. Can we look at that and say, you're depriving, and guess what? Unintended consequence, you're depriving other people of having a chance to compete for that because

• 1:26:30Tom Ellsworth?

  you're paying less. Yes. And so I'm really on the page that the government, from 1990 forward, this thing, like a lot of tax policy, this is at the feet of the government. And now you have one side of the government, the liberals, are using this whole thing to get the conservatives arguing with each other. And inside the conservative group, we're all arguing together. So I think we really need to go back. And so I didn't realize how broken H1B was, and exactly how much lobbying there was to keep it, and how the bulk submissions were working. I didn't realize the depth of all that. And so my position is just how broken this is, and it's at the fault,

• 1:27:12Tom Ellsworth?

  and at the feet of the US government that needs to fix it. And Bannon, I looked into Bannon saying, because I was thinking, man, what's up with, man, he's pretty revved up here. What he's reacting to, you know, there's sometimes, when there's something happens, sometimes government people, citizens, we overreact. We see something happen, and we overreact. And say, well, we need to go bomb those people, we need to attack those people, before we know what's going on, and we get really upset. Well, then we need to go to Afghanistan and flatten it. Let's turn some sand into glass. Well, what's happened here, I think Bannon, fighting for the American worker, and a lot of the things he's talking about is for the American worker, he's saying, scrap H1B, throw the whole thing out, no reason for it. It's like, wait a minute, wait a minute, we've always

• 1:27:56Tom Ellsworth?

  had a proper door at the Board of the United States, so that legal people have a way to come in.

• 1:28:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what it makes me think about?

• 1:28:02Tom Ellsworth?

  But that's my two thoughts.

• 1:28:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so I want to go through with you here, Tom, and I'm going to ask questions, and let's process it. Audience, agree, disagree, comment below, let us know, and debate it out. To all the respectful people, debate each other out when I'm going through this. So. For example, um, what percentage of customer service 800 numbers for AT&T? Or Verizon, or anything when you call are in America? How many of those call centers are in the Philippines, right? Or, or, or India. India, or? Ninety-five percent. Argentina, or all around the world. The majority. Do you have the number? It seems like a lot of it. No, no, actually, I'm, I don't know it. I would say ninety. Okay, over seventy-four hundred call centers are in the US employing fifty or more employees.

• 1:28:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, fantastic. I want to know the call centers that are not in America, okay? Call centers, what percentage of, so? Yeah, percentage, Rob. What percentage of call centers are not in America? Uh, and, and the way I'm asking is that companies use that, they out, uh, uh? Upsource. So, there's a thirty-four percent call centers are not located in America, it's over, it's over, and it gets sixty-six percent of, okay? So thirty-four percent that are not, they're where? Can you show more, Rob? Click on, okay, significant portion of call centers located overseas, particularly Philippines, India, due to low, lower labor costs. Okay? So if you're not for H1B, guess what?

• 1:29:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That's only five hundred thousand, of which is what, sixty-five thousand a year with a plus twenty that you can put on that, so eighty-five? This is millions of people that are out versus here. Can you pull up the cost, Rob, of hiring somebody to work a call center here versus overseas? So, average, uh, uh, uh, cost of hiring, I don't know if this, a cost of hiring call center employee in America versus Philippines? It has to be there because some companies sell it to you this way. Uh, okay, here we go. The average salary of a US customer service agent is twenty-two to thirty-five dollars,

• 1:30:13Patrick Bet-David?

  while the counterparts in the Philippines are eight to fourteen dollars. Okay, this is a year ago. Look at that right there, Vinnie. This is a year ago in call centers. So you tell me, a company like AT&T, you know, and by the way, whatever next eight hundred number you call, I want you to ask them, where are you based out of? They'll, they'll answer to you, they'll tell you. Do they? Yeah, I, I always ask. Where are you based out of? Philippines, oh, and they're very nice. So you mean to tell me, in US, they're paying a third? They're paying a third less in Philippines than they would in the States. And this isn't illegal, this is legal. So if you're not for H1B, you can't be for this, but let's go even deeper.

• 1:30:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So if I hire an engineering firm to develop my, you know, an app or whatever I'm doing. Now we have to go and see how many of these companies that hire engineers overseas versus here. In Singapore, in, give me some of the countries, Tom, in Armenia, in Belarus, in India, in.

• 1:31:20Tom Ellsworth?

  You're, you're correct. Right now, India.

• 1:31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Top overseas.

• 1:31:27Tom Ellsworth?

  India, Armenia, Brazil, right now are really big for.

• 1:31:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Dev centers.

• 1:31:33Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what is, what is the, not, this is not call center. This is your hiring engineers.

• 1:31:38Tom Ellsworth?

  You said apps and so that's why.

• 1:31:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, to develop apps. Yes, exactly, exactly what I want.

• 1:31:42Tom Ellsworth?

  India, Brazil, Armenia, Romania.

• 1:31:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, perfect. So now watch this. So how do you stop that? Because the H1B visa again is only for 85,000 jobs per year, new visas. And they expire, right? Six years. Let's say we stop that. Are you not more worried about this? So how are you gonna stop this? This isn't illegal. So how do we stop this? By the way, this is real jobs. The engineers from India, that's 74.9% of the 85,000, let's just say. Which is what? 85, 75% is 66, right? 85, 70, yeah, 66. If, no, it's 66, 70, yeah, it is 66.

• 1:32:28Patrick Bet-David?

  If it's 66 coming from India, what I just gave to you right now is millions of jobs. Millions. Okay, if you go and look at the MAGA hat, it says made in where? It's made in America.

• 1:32:44Patrick Bet-David?

  But if you go on, I bought a bunch of stuff for Tico for Trump and, you know, stuff that I got in there, right? He's looking at it. Made in El Salvador, made in this. Trump gear can be found built in other countries. Why is he doing that? Why are so many people doing that? Why are iPhones built in?

• 1:33:05Patrick Bet-David?

  In China.

• 1:33:06Speaker 06

  Cheaper.

• 1:33:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Or India. If we build it here, it's fourteen hundred dollars more, give or take. We've done this before, it would be like twenty-four hundred dollars to buy an iPhone.

• 1:33:15Speaker 06

  Correct.

• 1:33:16Patrick Bet-David?

  If we build in the States. In order to do that, you have a bigger problem, guys, in America. The moment we went off the gold standard, shit hit the fan. Bannon is a historian. The moment we got off the gold standard, shit hit the fan in America. Everything became about, and Nixon, as much credit as we give to Nixon, Nixon did a lot of, hey, Nixon's the one that opened up China. Guess what? Fifty-two years ago, you opened up China, and companies realized how cheap labor is over there. Now try bringing them back. How do you bring them back now? Go ahead. You think big pharma lobbyists are gonna be tough? Go ahead and tell people that are producing products that are in China and all over the place to come back here.

• 1:34:00Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not a one, two, three-step process. And it becomes like California, Tom, and, guys, I want you to tear apart my argument and, and, and see where I have leaks. I'm just trying to logically think about how we address this, because bring it back to California. What's California doing? California is saying, "We're gonna force you to insure houses in areas where fire happens."

• 1:34:29Speaker 06

  Relieving.

• 1:34:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, we'll do it. Rates went up seventy percent. No, you have to control the rates. Okay, no problem, we're out.

• 1:34:37Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:34:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So now watch, "We're gonna force you to make all the products and Apple phone be made in America, or else." Okay, we'll do it. Twenty-eight hundred dollars. What?

• 1:34:47Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:34:48Patrick Bet-David?

  "We're gonna make you to buy these tanzan here. We're gonna make you buy these shirts here." No problem, it's a hundred and forty-eight dollars. What are you talking about? Everything becomes Chanel overnight.

• 1:34:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Eight hundred dollars. So this is, this is a, there is one to be loud and noisy and you're not gonna do this to us. I get that because of the pride. Then the other part is, can we reason? Like, I don't know. Because if I'm really trying to keep the jobs in America, let's try to keep those call centers in America. Those are good jobs. Twenty-five bucks an hour. You know what that is? It's fifty grand a year. Those are okay jobs.

• 1:35:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, i- if you want to get those engineers that are going out there and developing apps in Armenia or other places, keep them here. How do you do that? You can't because it's not illegal. This is just, this, I don't understand what happened with the H1B on eighty-five thousand. Don't get me wrong, the abuse is there, but do we not want the talent? By the way, I, I looked up to see what are this famous H1B visa folks in America?

• 1:35:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know the CEO of Microsoft? Satya Nadella? He's an H1B visa. Yep. Do you know the CEO of Google? Sundar? And guess what? H1B. Yeah. Do you know the CEO of Adobe? Shantanu Narayan? They're from H1B. By the way, do you think they got the jobs because they pay them less? No. What is Satya Nadella's net worth, Rob? Can you go type in Satya Nadella's net worth? Or sa- salary? Oh, you screwed up the name. That's, that's, you are like- Santa Ananana? Yeah, what, he puts- Santa Ananana? Dallas. No, what he typed in is a whole different story. Are you type Santa? Yeah, but, but to me, yeah, one point four billion dollar net worth. You think they're paying them less to save money? No.

• 1:36:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Do I think the abuse is happening? One hundred percent. Do I believe the abuse is happening for cheap labor? One hundred percent. But if your criticism is going to be cheap labor, you have to have to go to cheap labor to, to, to what? To call centers?

• 1:36:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, do it. You know what happens? What are you paying for your phone service right now?

• 1:37:01Speaker 06

  About, let's say seventy-five dollars a month.

• 1:37:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, it's gonna be a hundred and fifty bucks a month.

• 1:37:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, see, and that's what-

• 1:37:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep, that's what I'm trying to say.

• 1:37:06Speaker 06

  I get it.

• 1:37:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So, I get what we're debating, but be- So then, how the hell is our median income in America the same as it was, you know? I mean, we've grown a little bit, but not a lot of it. Average price of home price have exploded, not income. So the argument is right that we're losing jobs to these other countries, but instead of like arguing, are you better or else? Give your solution. How do you go off back to the- How do we get back on a gold standard? We've already opened up China. You think trade with China is gonna stop? You think trade with these other, Taiwan making the chips that were desperately needed? Do you think that's gonna stop? We're in here.

• 1:37:51Speaker 06

  Got your question? How mu- What's the percentage of the, of the people that- But mind you, I'm America first, I know Steve Bannon, like, imagine what he, what he's been through, just got out of freaking federal prison for, for January 6th, which he didn't even do anything. But how, what's the percentage of Americans do you think that are America first, pro-America, the hell would H1B, the hell would that, that would be willing to pay the money?

• 1:38:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's not, it's not about-

• 1:38:17Speaker 06

  That's what I'm saying, what's the percentage?

• 1:38:18Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not about, first of all, we need Steve Bannon to keep saying things like this.

• 1:38:23Speaker 06

  Oh, I respect, that's what I like-

• 1:38:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Because what Steve Bannon's saying just makes you do is what? Let me go look at it deeper what he's saying, but what I, what we need from Steve a little bit more is, break it down. Put a fifteen-step process. What's your fifteen moves? First, let's do this, then let's do this, then let's do this, then- Great, okay, good. Now there's a plan. But then, whatever you take money away from resources here, something else takes a hit. You got four kids, you say I only got twenty hours a week with my kids to commit to one of their sports. You put twenty hours into one of your kids, the other three kids are gonna be like, hey, what are we doing here?

• 1:38:57Patrick Bet-David?

  There has to be, I'm gonna help this guy go out there and make the basketball team. What about the other three? Then things dropped off. You have to know there is a... So, all I'm thinking about is, we're all about America first. We're not about a, you know, you know, organization. But what is America first? America first is, America winning. I get it. At what cost? And whatever you think you can handle, can the average person handle paying 50%, 60% more for an iPhone? Would the average person be okay with phone prices going higher? Are rates going higher? Double customer service? That cost has to get somewhere. Margins have to be made. So, you know, I don't know.

• 1:39:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think the reasonable people need to sit in a room and come up with a plan to hash this out and doing their best to minimize emotions. And if somebody says, "Let's do this," what about happens with this? Let's do that, what happens with this, Tom?

• 1:39:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I think you brought up something great about the emotions because over the weekend, it was basically New Year's Day yesterday, sorry. I was also looking at the numbers and the half a million. Vinny, what is the most credible

• 1:40:14Tom Ellsworth?

  number that's given to the amount of illegals that have come in, say, the last 36 months since the end of COVID? The most credible number?

• 1:40:24Patrick Bet-David?

  The most credible, meaning that the government's telling us?

• 1:40:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, government, there's independent analysts out there.

• 1:40:30Patrick Bet-David?

  10 million is, which I think it's double that, but I'm just saying.

• 1:40:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, well, let's just say it's 10 million. It's 10 million. So, let's say there was 10 million people that have come into undocumented...

• 1:40:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Illegals.

• 1:40:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Undocumented pedestrians, whatever you want to call them, so no one gets upset. So, let's say there's 10 million of them.

• 1:40:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:49Tom Ellsworth?

  How many H1Bs were you talking about?

• 1:40:51Speaker 06

  In those illegals?

• 1:40:52Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, total.

• 1:40:53Speaker 06

  Oh, sorry, uh, what'd you say, um, eighty-five thousand in one year?

• 1:40:56Patrick Bet-David?

  It's sixty-five thousand plus the additional twenty that they get to approve, which is always typically eighty-five thousand.

• 1:41:00Tom Ellsworth?

  But right now, there's about a half a million of them in place, correct?

• 1:41:02Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right, half a million of them in place.

• 1:41:04Tom Ellsworth?

  So in other words, the H1B, it just struck me, because I was using a number bigger than ten, I'll use your ten.

• 1:41:09Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:41:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Ten million is twenty times the size of the H1B argument, and I'm like, look, people are making points about H1B, and we can sit down and talk about it, but I felt like the emotion and the flames and everything on HB, H1B, blew through the roof.

• 1:41:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:41:25Tom Ellsworth?

  And we've got, it's like when people talk about, hey, we're really upset about teenage drinking in Texas. Meanwhile, the fentanyl crisis is thirty-two times bigger, I looked those numbers up too.

• 1:41:36Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:41:37Tom Ellsworth?

  And so sometimes the emotions in an argument blows the roof off of the, the debate hall, and you really step back to go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, is H1B process broken? Everyone agrees it's broken, not everyone agrees on what the solutions are, but there's not one person on either side of the argument, including Elon Musk and Vivek, who are saying it's not broken. They're all saying, and I'm saying unintended consequences, I'm saying it's the government, so let's go back and fix it. And yet, we're talking about something that at the least is one-twentieth, which is five percent, of the, the bigger immigration question.

• 1:42:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, which is, to me, it's twenty million, so I, I went low.

• 1:42:14Tom Ellsworth?

  That was my perspective moment yesterday, it was like, wow.

• 1:42:16Speaker 06

  Wait, wait a minute, yep.

• 1:42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So, I'll just weigh in real quick, uh, what's the book that Trump wrote? The Art of the Deal. Well, time to make a deal, baby. So I don't think this is actually a bad problem, by the way, I don't think the average American is waking up and thinking, what's going on with that H1B visa situation? If you polled the average American, asked them what the H1B visa was, they'd be like, yeah, I got no freaking clue. The average American.

• 1:42:41Speaker 06

  They thought it was a virus, they think it's a virus.

• 1:42:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you know, we don't need one of those. But I do think that Trump, who, who is Trump aligned with? Is he more aligned with Elon and Vivek? Is he more aligned with Steve Bannon and the Laura Loomers of the world? And the Stephen Millers of the world? Well, the answer is both. Like I said before last show, there's MAGA 1.0 and MAGA 2.0. Do you have anything? Time to make a deal. No, is it the deal? I think he's gonna sit down, make a deal with these two guys. By the way, if I'm Steve Bannon, I just got out of jail. The best thing for my personal reputation, for my personal brand is going to war with Elon Musk. Are you freaking kidding me? Great for Steve Bannon, but do you really, Steve Bannon, want to go to war with Elon Musk? Horrible decision.

• 1:43:25Patrick Bet-David?

  He's saying, oh yeah, we love converts in our church. But Elon Musk, you gotta sit in the back of the room, homie. I just gave you a quarter billion dollars. I'm sitting at the front row. Stop it. Don't even play this game with me. So MAGA is gonna have this conversation with MAGA 1.0 and MAGA 2.0. And we're gonna see what's gonna happen. But if you're the art of the deal, if you're Trump, you're saying that the system's broken. Bannon has a point. Elon Musk has a point. You'll figure it out, won't you?

• 1:43:53Speaker 06

  I think so.

• 1:43:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He will figure it out. Is this, is this gonna be the issue that divides MAGA? No, but, but, but it is, it is something that, again, you need more perspective to see what the bigger problems are. Okay, I'll never forget, I got, back in the days, I wrote a Jerry Maguire type letter to an insurance company I was a part of. Nine points, I suggested we improve the company. And a guy pulled me aside one day and he says, look, when you're dealing with the company that you're dealing with, 400 billion auto company, every year, instead of making asks for 10, 15 different things, what is the most important one? Make that ask. Okay, and then go through that. Everybody has their own ask. This, all of a sudden, became a very easy way to pin people to be pro-Trump people, pro-Musk people.

• 1:44:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's exactly what the people on the left and the establishment want. Because behind closed doors, guess what people are saying now? Trump, you're right, Musk is wrong. And behind closed doors, people are saying what? Musk, you're right, Trump is wrong. And if those people that are saying that are influential people, that are friends and allies.

• 1:45:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's it's a it's an issue. So my my concern is for them to be able to figure this part out. Okay, so that that's a whole separate issue. Let's go to the next story here. Uh, let me see what I got here. What story have we now? Okay, let's go to the Xi says no one can stop China's reunification with Taiwan. No one can stop you? Yeah, he says no one can stop. Is this a Rob?

• 1:45:23Speaker 07

  It is. You'd have to read the subtitles are in English, but his actual.

• 1:45:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go ahead. I'll read it. 两岸同胞一家心，谁也无法隔断我们的血脉亲情，谁也不能阻挡祖国统一的历史大势。

• 1:45:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure, everybody.

• 1:45:44Tom Ellsworth?

  You rarely hear this guy.

• 1:45:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Chinese says declared no one can stop the historical trend of the national reunification, one family. In 2024, China escalated military pressure on Taiwan, conducting near daily air and sea operations, two rounds of war games and a naval show of force after Taiwan's presidential Li Ching-tai labeled a separatist by Beijing stopped in Hawaii and Guam. China warned against separationist act and vowed future actions if necessary tensions with the US remain high as Washington continues armed sales to Taiwan under the Taiwan Regulation Act. Beijing, which has not renounced the use of force to claim Taiwan, imposed sanctions on the US military suppliers and warned against US Taiwan military ties. Tom?

• 1:46:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, what what he's doing is while we're all being distracted by all these things we were just talking about. Think about that. China is always very, very strategic about Taiwan. They are so strategic. They wait for elections. They wait for natural disasters. They wait for things and then they drop the dime, make the call, make the announcement. And what he's saying is, right in the middle of New Year's, where we suddenly get distracted by these terrible acts that happen here and. He says, you know, no one can stop the historical trend. China is also very careful in how they communicate. No one can stop the historical trend of natural, national reunification.

• 1:47:12Tom Ellsworth?

  So what he's saying, historical and trend, he's trying to say, hey, this is gonna happen. It's like saying, you know what? So let's say you're gonna make birth control pills and condoms, you have to be 18 to buy them. Oh, good luck with that. Teenagers are gonna screw anyway. They're still gonna mess around anyway. That's what he's doing here. He's trying to basically say, this is gonna happen anyway. You might as well get used to it. And then he invokes a couple of words here. Family. We're one family. And warns the Taiwan's president, Lai Ching-tai, who visited Hawaii and Guam, and he said, those are separatist acts.

• 1:47:56Tom Ellsworth?

  So he's sending warnings out. Oh, you're gonna go to Guam, which is basically a US military base surrounded by very friendly people, you know, in that community. And Hawaii, oh, you're gonna go basically to, to, to, and then the, I think the US Pacific Fleet is headquartered out of Hawaii. So it's basically, he sees those as military visits. That's what he's saying, PBD. Hey, those are military visits. Those are separatist acts. You better, y'all better get used to this. This can be one family and the historical trend.

• 1:48:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me ask this question.

• 1:48:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Very carefully stated, and he's, he's, he's drawing the line in the sand a little bit darker.

• 1:48:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Question for you. Today's what date?

• 1:48:36Speaker 06

  January 2nd.

• 1:48:37Patrick Bet-David?

  January 2nd. Trump takes office when?

• 1:48:39Speaker 06

  January 20th.

• 1:48:40Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got 19 days left, including today's 19 days, right? Okay. Sounds good. What the hell are you gonna do in the next 19 days? What can Xi accomplish in 19 days?

• 1:48:52Tom Ellsworth?

  It would have to be fast and really frickin messy.

• 1:48:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he can do it in the next nineteen days?

• 1:48:57Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 1:48:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you know what that means? There's nothing that's gonna happen with Taiwan and China for the next four years and nineteen days. Is that a fair assessment?

• 1:49:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, unless we decide to let it happen under some EU-type treaty, it ain't happening by force with China.

• 1:49:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's just say he decides to do it.

• 1:49:17Tom Ellsworth?

  We believe we're gonna stand in the middle of that.

• 1:49:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's say he decides to do it. How's Trump gonna handle that, if he decides to do it?

• 1:49:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Heavily and definitively.

• 1:49:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Heavily and definitively. What does that mean? Because we're not gonna go to war. Trump's not a guy that wants to go to war.

• 1:49:31Tom Ellsworth?

  No, but what are we doing? US military suppliers and what? So, it goes like this. It'll be Ukraine 2.0. It'll be Pacific Ukraine. We give three billion dollars a week to Taiwan. They give two and a half billion dollars a week to General Dynamics to get all the war toys that we would be using if it was our men in uniform. That's what's happening in Ukraine.

• 1:49:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So, General Dynamics would like that. Essentially, they would like that.

• 1:49:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, you're kidding?

• 1:49:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but to me...

• 1:49:58Tom Ellsworth?

  The military complex would love another customer, especially if their credit is paid for by the US taxpayer.

• 1:50:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Why? Why do you think? Do you think a part of Xi is sitting there asking himself, "Why didn't they capitalize off the last four years with Biden being there to escalate, knowing that Trump is here?" Do you think a part of him is sitting there saying, "I screwed up"?

• 1:50:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, because remember, China usually plays long. And it's like, is the clock running out and we played too long?

• 1:50:31Speaker 06

  I think so as well.

• 1:50:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm with you 100%.

• 1:50:33Speaker 06

  Because, Ben, when he says, "No one can stop China", that "one" is us. He's talking directly to us. Who else is even interested in that situation? It's us, you know what I mean? He's talking shit to us.

• 1:50:44Patrick Bet-David?

  He is. I have a hot take on China. China? China's a frickin mess. I think this is all a big distraction by Xi. This whole thing with Taiwan. I think Taiwan to China is Ukraine to Russia. Russia's economy is falling apart right now. China's economy, since Covid? You see what's going on right there? Do you see the article in the Wall Street Journal? By the way, shout out to the Wall Street Journal. They do a great job on this topic.

• 1:51:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, we've been covering this for months. About tearing down buildings that were over built, all that.

• 1:51:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Loss of wealth, what's going on? China's economy is burdened by years of excess. Here's how bad it really is. Here's what's going on in China. GDP is going lower. Debt is going higher. Youth employment higher. We've covered the birth rates on this, right? PBD about how there's an aging population. They have, I think they were just surpassed by India as the most populated country in the world. Declining birth rates. They had a massive housing bubble. How do I, as an American, know that the biggest company in real estate that in China is called Evergrande? Right? Why do I know that name? Because they were building these ghost cities that nobody moved into. Rob, there's graphs down there if you want to show that article. Debt, bankruptcies and historic loss of wealth. If you keep scrolling down, you see a couple of graphs here. Here it is right there.

• 1:51:59Patrick Bet-David?

  What their GDP was supposed to be in 2015 and the 2019 forecast. Look where it is now. Basically 120, half of what it was supposed to be. If you keep going down a little bit further. China's working age population change from a year earlier. Now they're in the negative right here. So China is basically, you know, they've been called a paper tiger. They were a sleeping giant. They were awakened thanks to Nixon and manufacturing. Covid has destroyed China. Destroyed China. People are on to China. Who the hell wants to take their business to China at this point? Who wants to deal with China? So the whole Taiwan thing. You know, Tom, you said that Xi plays the long game.

• 1:52:43Patrick Bet-David?

  In my opinion, it's all one big distraction. And he's basically saying, hey, don't look at what a fucking shit show we are here in China. Don't look, go look what we're doing with the Uighurs. Don't look at how GDP is declining. We're just, we're worried about Taiwan, just like how Putin in Russia. Young people are dying, people are going to war, economy is crumbling, they're trying to evade sanctions. And he's basically saying, let's go, guys, we're dealing with the Nazis in Ukraine. It's all one big distraction.

• 1:53:12Speaker 06

  But you guys brought up a good point. What a dumb, what a dumbass move. You didn't do nothing for these four years. China has been eating our, like, flying spy balloons. They built seventeen, they bought land next to seventeen of our military bases. They unleashed-

• 1:53:28Patrick Bet-David?

  A dumb move by who?

• 1:53:29Speaker 06

  On him. He owns, Biden, you saw those photos that came out with Biden and Hunter and all them with China and all their guys? Like, Biden is in their back pocket, he's been in their back pocket. Why are you waiting? Why did you wait? Now you're talking shit-

• 1:53:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait for what, though?

• 1:53:46Speaker 06

  Like, remember that, like, if you want to take over Taiwan and do all this shit talking and do it, you should have done it in the first year.

• 1:53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, China?

• 1:53:53Speaker 06

  China should have been, what part aren't you getting that I'm saying?

• 1:53:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know what Joe Biden has to do with China being-

• 1:53:58Speaker 06

  What do you mean, Joe Biden, to me, has been compromised by China. They could do whatever they want. They fly the balloons, they buying land near our bases. They unleashed COVID and nothing, no consequences. So why are they waiting for nineteen days left to make moves?

• 1:54:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this where he said, "I've never met the business partners"?

• 1:54:13Speaker 06

  This is him saying, "I've never met any business partners." This is, the National Archives released this, Pat. They released photos showing then-Vice President Biden, meeting with his first son Hunter's Chinese government-linked businesses, partners, again, proving-

• 1:54:25Patrick Bet-David?

  National Archives released these pictures?

• 1:54:27Speaker 06

  Yes, they did.

• 1:54:27Patrick Bet-David?

  When did they?

• 1:54:28Speaker 06

  Um, I think it was, was it last week, Robbie?

• 1:54:30Speaker 07

  Yeah, five or six days, uh-

• 1:54:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 1:54:33Speaker 07

  Saturday, December 28th.

• 1:54:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Four weeks before Biden is gonna be gone?

• 1:54:37Speaker 06

  So my point being, so my point, Adam, is being this, follow me. If you're China, and you know you own Biden, you have all this information, you have dirt, you have everything on Hunter, why are you waiting for nineteen days to be like, "Yo, nobody's gonna stop us"? It's like, what a dumbass move from a leader. You obviously own Biden, you could do whatever you want in our country, why would you wait? That's my point. I would have done it a long ass time ago.

• 1:55:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, well, we need, would have, could have, should have, but the point is this-

• 1:55:03Speaker 06

  Well, exactly.

• 1:55:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think they're doing anything with Taiwan. My entire emphasis is that China- Was supposed to surpass the US economy. What was it? China 2025? Made in 2025. Okay, 2025 is here, literally. And their economy has tanked. Nobody wants to move to China. Nobody wants to do business in China. It's all one big distraction. You're right, but both of you guys are right at the same time. You're right, their economy is in shambles. What the argument we made is, I asked Tom, do you think Xi regrets not capitalizing off the last four years since Ukraine, Taiwan, Ukraine, Russia, you know, Hamas, Israel, Iran, all the stuff that happened? Do you think he's sitting there saying, holy shit, here we go?

• 1:55:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Now Trump's gonna come in and if Trump wins, JD Vance wins two more. And how old is Xi gonna be in the next 12 years? Xi right now is how old? I think he's 70. Okay, so if Xi is 70 right now. Fact check that, how old is he? 71, in 12 years, he's gonna be 83. Trump wins, Vance two terms, now what? So he missed the opportunity if he was gonna do it under his legacy. Good. No, no, we're not, yeah, of course, but all we're saying is that's... So let me get to this next story here. So check this out. Teachers will no longer need to pass basic reading, writing, and math test for certification in this blue state. Let me say this one more time, folks. Teachers will no longer need to pass basic reading, writing, and math test for certification in this blue state, okay?

• 1:56:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me how that makes any sense. I can't wait. Tell me if that makes any sense. Here we go. A New Jersey law.

• 1:57:26Speaker 06

  Maybe lower than meal pricing.

• 1:57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Jersey. Effective January 1st, 2025, all these people from Jersey, we know one too many of them, to be honest with you. Sitting in the room.

• 1:57:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, seems like half of the uh uh uh vitamin companies hired by Jersey because one of our HR guys is from Jersey, Matt and I tease them all the time. So why do you keep hiring people from Jersey? Everyone's from Jersey at this point. Yeah, cuz they're all trying to get the hell out of Jersey, move to Florida. Removes, effective January 1st, removes the requirement for teacher candidates to pass basic skill tests in reading, writing, and mathematics to gain certification. Democratic Governor Phil Murphy. Rob, see if you got a speech of this year. Sign and measure into law as part of the 2025 state budget to address teacher shortages. With Democratic Senator Jim Beech stating, we need more teachers, this is the best way to get them. They're not teachers. They're not teachers. If they can't pass, they can't teach, guy. What do you mean this is the best way to get them?

• 1:58:21Patrick Bet-David?

  The law strongly backed by New Jersey Educational Association, NJEA. Follows a trend in states like New York, California, Arizona, which have lower teacher certification requirements. NJEA called the state, called the testing requirement a- and and unnecessary barrier to entering profession. Teachers in New Jersey currently earn an average of eighty one thousand dollars a year, according to the NEA. It's so weird. So we dropped out of the A, what is it? Eighty one countries on the OECD, I think it's called. We're ranked thirty four in math. And rather than raising the standards, we're doing a complete opposite. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:59:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, I I can't believe that he actually said that, that the NJEA called the requirement an unnecessary barrier to entering the profession. That would be like cardiologists no longer required to identify a heart in a lineup of internal organs. Uh, what about that? That's a pancreas, sir. What about stomach? Well, they're in the same neighborhood, so you know, we'll let you go in. Yes, it's, what's this thing? Ow! Well, that's a scalpel. You're grabbing it from the wrong end. That's okay. So it's like, so, but I'll tell you, I'll tell you, you know what? This is state here, tell you what, this is what the states are trying to do. Do they have a shortage of teaching? Yes. Do they need to get more teachers in the classroom? Yes.

• 1:59:45Tom Ellsworth?

  But do they actually care about the quality of education?

• 1:59:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That is wild to me.

• 1:59:51Tom Ellsworth?

  No, they don't. They just want everyone, remember the Democrats? It's like the Special Olympics. Everybody gets a diploma. That's all they care about. And by the way, I'll show you, it's also happened, we saw it happen in insurance. And it kind of shocked us. Um, we took pride in the fact that PHP agents were trained and could, and passed their insurance test. Uh, because there's a thing called suitability. That you would sit down, have a conversation with someone to make sure that the insurance you're recommending was suitable for their needs or family. And by the way, if you tried to just push something through, the underwriter at the insurance company would say, this policy wasn't suitable. We're not approving this. So there was actually a check and balance in that. But check this out. Pat and I were stunned. I remember the conversation we had.

• 2:00:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Today, in almost all 50 states, you have to get a 70% pass rate on a three hour exam with your individual state that you live in. Like, and Adam did that years and years ago. And he takes CE courses to stay fresh.

• 2:00:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Every two years.

• 2:00:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Every two years to stay fresh.

• 2:00:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm staying fresh.

• 2:00:54Tom Ellsworth?

  California felt that that wasn't fair. And they reduced it to 60%. That now a passing grade was 60% to get an insurance license in California. This is real numbers. And we were sitting in his office because I showed him, I said, check this out, Pat. They've left insurance to duster and bail bondsman at 70%. So to be a bail bondsman, you had to pass a test at 70%. But to be a life insurance salesperson with the complexity of life insurance only 60. This is the states thinking that they are helping people get jobs, but you know what they're really doing? They're messing with the quality that those jobs are going to deliver.

• 2:01:38Tom Ellsworth?

  They are stealing from the citizens that are going to receive services from teachers. And in California, from insurance agents by lowering the, uh, they said, well, we, these people need to get jobs. But by the way, by the way, by the way, who's going to pay them in those jobs?

• 2:01:53Speaker 06

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:01:54Tom Ellsworth?

  The state.

• 2:01:54Speaker 06

  The state is.

• 2:01:55Tom Ellsworth?

  The state. And in California, they lowered the, the, uh, the insurance license. All the insurance companies are going to pay a commission, not our problem.

• 2:02:03Speaker 06

  That's gonna suck.

• 2:02:04Tom Ellsworth?

  But this is horrible. The net, net is the states. And by the way, they followed a trend in, let's go easy on New Jersey, New York, California, and Arizona, which have lowered teacher certification requirements. So ladies and gentlemen, two years, three years, look for the educational effectiveness scorecard that they keep on the states. And let's find out where those states end up with lower quality teachers. You know what that also does? It costs a living? It raises it up because you, because you, Vinnie, and your wife say, you know what? We can barely afford private school, but what would the Catholic school charge us? Catholic schools, proctor schools usually have the most scholarship dollars, and it's

• 2:02:45Tom Ellsworth?

  usually the cheapest of the private, uh, school options. And you're talking about tightening up your belt, working two jobs so you can get better education for your kid. So they're ripping off tomorrow's citizens.

• 2:02:57Speaker 06

  Vinnie, I just feel bad for them because you're, and you know, you're going to be able to spot which one of those kids went to that Jersey school. When you ask them, what's five plus five? And they go, chicken. You're like, okay, I got, you went to Jersey, bro. Rob? That's Rob right there. That's Rob's mathematics.

• 2:03:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Chicken little otter. You have thoughts on this or no? Yeah, look, I was a teacher for a year. People don't know this. Before I got into finance, and I was, uh, in between my hospitality nightlife days in my early twenties, uh, I was sick of waking up at noon every single day. And I was like, I gotta get a job that, uh, will enable me to at least wake up, uh, before nine AM once a week.

• 2:03:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Was this that women's gymnastic thing?

• 2:03:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And I got a job as a, um, as a substitute teacher. And I actually really enjoyed it. It was really cool. I was doing nightlife stuff and, uh, After doing it for a few months, there was Christmas break, winter break, and I get a call from the school and they go, hey, uh, the, the second grade teacher, she's out for the rest of the year. Do you want to teach the class for the rest of the year?

• 2:04:00Speaker 06

  I can't imagine.

• 2:04:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I go, okay, sure. Uh, it was amazing. It was awesome. I mean, when I was a substitute, I would, I did PE, I did art, I did math, I did science, but they said you gotta have one qualification to be the teacher. I said, oh yeah, what's that? Oh, you need to have a college degree. I said, look at me, baby, Florida State, go Knowles. Here we go, college degree, boom, I'm in there. So now they're lowering the standards that you don't even need to pass, basic skills in writing, reading and mathem- basic, not college, basic.

• 2:04:35Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:04:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Are we, I feel like I'm reading a Babylon Bee article right now. So, um, now, how many people do I run into and I go, oh, you have kids? Where do they go to school? Oh, I homeschool my kids at this point. I ain't playing this game. Well, why do you homeschool your kids? Dude, are you freaking kidding me? What's going on in school? The indoctrination, indoctrination, not the education? How many people do you run into that do the homeschooling thing? How many people, people do you always advocate? Hey, listen, if you can, uh, try to send your kids to private school. Private school's expensive, so a lot of people are doing the homeschooling thing. But the lowering the standards, this is affecting the youth of America that we will not see for what? 10?

• 2:05:13Speaker 06

  10 years.

• 2:05:13Patrick Bet-David?

  20 plus years. I'll, I'll tell you one more quick story. I'm with Vinnie at the UFC, uh, Miami, not this past year, but the year before. I remember we're, we're, we're there. Remember I was like missing my keys? We go to find him. This guy from New Jersey shows up, New York, I think it was Jersey. Hey, what's, I love you guys, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. He goes, listen, I'm retired cop, been in the force 20 years. I goes, my last year. He's like, I'm so happy to get out of here. I said, what's going on? What's the deal with the cops? He goes, do you know how much they've lowered the standards to become a cop? Nobody wants to be a cop anymore. Nobody wants to be a cop. I said, who are they accepting to be a cop? He's like, fat, sloppy, lazy, donut eating dudes. I said, how's this gonna affect the, the work, the, the police force? He's like, it's not gonna be good. So here's my point.

• 2:05:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You're lowering the standards for police, you're lowering the standards for teachers. What's gonna happen to the safety of our citizens? What's gonna happen to the safety and education of our kids? In Miami, we say this. No go, no go. I want to ask you one question, though. Did any of your students ever call you a gay Jew? Tell me the truth. Oh, my gosh.

• 2:06:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your point?

• 2:06:21Tom Ellsworth?

  No, you can't, you know what?

• 2:06:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I just, I just told you that I was a teacher. I don't want to know if, if, if the students were talking shit like, like the.

• 2:06:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam was a good teacher, you know what? We've got a video of this. He was a really good teacher. Today, we're gonna talk about percentages. This is a Bloody Mary. It's 72% tomato juice. So, Adam applied a lot of life learning to help these kids.

• 2:06:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, let's move on. You guys are killing it. Welcome to the comedy show. Let's go to the next one. Where's the freaking vegetables? By the way, here's Whitney Cummings.

• 2:06:48Tom Ellsworth?

  In the tomato juice.

• 2:06:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Taunting Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper on New Year's Eve, okay? And she's not slowing down. And there's one moment which is like, oh, I just looked at Andy. Did I say something wrong? No, no, no, no, no, you can go.

• 2:07:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you did.

• 2:07:01Patrick Bet-David?

  She did not hold back. Rob, play a couple of clips here. She shined on New Year's Eve. Go for it. 2024 election fried our brains. The Democrats couldn't hold a primary because they were too busy holding a body upright. Are we still rolling? Am I off? Go for it.

• 2:07:18Patrick Bet-David?

  It was amazing that the pro-choice party didn't give their voters one when it came to the presidential candidate. Kamala was forced on us so hard, you'd think she was patented by Pfizer or Moderna, whichever one's, oh, God. Andy just gave me a very scary look. No! I love going around the country because you see that Americans really are more reasonable than they would be portrayed. They're pretty great. And I'm playing bigger and bigger venues now. I thought being a mom would mean that less people would want to come see me. I'm not.

• 2:07:44Speaker 03

  You know, like 3000 seat theater, which is about the viewership of CNN these days. Well, nice. Not this show, though. Nice, nice. All eyes are on this show. Wow, you're all firing. You know, Andy and I, Andy and I had a tour. We did like 3000 people. Yes.

• 2:07:58Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. By the way, do you think CNN, before they hired her, knew, all right, Whitney, you're gonna say some stuff? Well, great point. Because if they did. They did. Kudos to CNN. I know. For having a little brass balls. I agree. By the way, who you, you know, who used to host the show? That frickin', uh, redhead, uh, rough looking lady.

• 2:08:17Speaker 06

  Kathy Griffin.

• 2:08:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Kathy Griffin.

• 2:08:18Speaker 06

  Oh, the worst.

• 2:08:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So can you go any further left? She's the lady that held up a, a Trump head?

• 2:08:23Speaker 06

  And then cried because she couldn't get work.

• 2:08:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Shout out to CNN. Only if, you ready? You ready?

• 2:08:29Speaker 06

  Go ahead.

• 2:08:30Patrick Bet-David?

  What are the chances they're gonna bring her back in 2026?

• 2:08:32Speaker 06

  Prob- well.

• 2:08:33Patrick Bet-David?

  If they bring her back, that shows, hey, listen, we're ready to have this conversation. There she is, Kathy Griffin. I'm not sure which one's which, but I think she's the one on the left.

• 2:08:42Speaker 06

  I saw a reading of a teleprompter, so that means they knew.

• 2:08:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Whitney Cummings made some jokes.

• 2:08:45Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:08:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for her.

• 2:08:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:08:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see if CNN can take the joke that they signed up for.

• 2:08:49Speaker 06

  Well, you saw, Adam, you saw Anderson Cooper. He didn't look like, like he knew it was coming. He didn't wanna even look at the camera cuz he knows that they're full of you know what.

• 2:08:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I think the teleprompter may have had like 10 seconds ago, the minute to go, to whatever. I think it had other things on it. I don't think they were ready for it. So Andrew Kurtson turned and goes, oh, nice. I, I, I don't think they knew it was coming. I think she was.

• 2:09:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So you think CNN goes blindsided? I think for sure.

• 2:09:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I think they knew it was gonna be sparky. But I don't think it was written on the teleprompter.

• 2:09:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no, now you're saying written? No, that's what I'm asking. Oh, no, I don't think so.

• 2:09:21Speaker 06

  Well, apparently, well, apparently she was getting ready for a roast, Rob. If you could check this out, she was getting for, ready for a roast.

• 2:09:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:27Speaker 06

  So she was doing, practicing them here, which is kind of like, they, they.

• 2:09:32Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, the way she did it, and then on her Instagram post, she said, hey, say what you wanna say, but I wanna thank CNN for allowing me to come on and allow me to say what I said. You know what? I love it. I absolutely love it. Is, what she say here, she, uh, honestly props to CNN or something for letting me come, uh, let me go hog wild on a New York, no darts. In my neck so far, new to my, I love it. You got a dart in your neck. I mean, you know what, I freaking love it. FYI, when, it's a W for Whitney Cummings, a big W, but it's also W for Cooper. And what's the guy in the middle's name? That's Andy Cohen. To him and to the guys at CNN. I actually, I had media, the editor editor in chief flew out here from New York to interview me.

• 2:10:17Patrick Bet-David?

  They put me on a list of, what do you call it? Uh, top 75 thing that they do. Most influential people in media. Media, whatever. We did ours the top 50 as well, which we'll share our top 50 here in a minute. But he came and asked me a question. He says, what mainstream media outlets do you watch? I said, I watch CNN when Scott Jennings is on and I don't miss it. Anything with Scott, I want to see what he has to say. So, so you watch CNN? I said, no, I watch Scott Jennings. Scott Jennings at CNN is why I watch CNN. Then I said, I like what News Nation did last year when they had Mark Cuban, Dana White, Bill O'Reilly, everybody with Chris Cuomo. I thought it was a great event.

• 2:10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And then I said, of course I watch Fox. I like Jesse. I like the five. I like the debates that they do here and there. But you, you have to know, the more you leave things to capitalism, people will adjust.

• 2:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  They will adjust. The market's going to tell you when you suck. Jimmy Kimmel, the market's going to tell you when you suck. A story comes out, okay, about, what's his name? David Letterman, right? And Letterman says the following, let me read this to you folks. And it's so interesting that we just talked about Kimmel and Leno and Letterman and Fallon. And then this story comes out. David Letterman says show business made him a worse person, found humanity living quietly in Indiana. Okay?

• 2:11:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Reflecting on his career, David Letterman admitted that show business made him a worse person, stating, "In the show business, I find that I have pretended to be someone I'm truly not. In my life here in Indiana, I'm at home with my family. I'm probably the person I actually am." He added that the intense pressure and single-minded focus on his work left him without the humanity now he feels, he feels now. Letterman shared that his time on Late Business, which he hosted for 22 years, was often clouded by feelings of inadequacy and drinking heavily in the 80s, 90s, saying, "You take Johnny Carson, there's never going to be anybody as good. And here I am thinking, oh crap, I'm not going to be as good as Johnny." Towards the end of his career, his favorite part was just

• 2:12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  talking to people, though the nightly comedy grind was really tough. Now, of course, don't feel bad for the guy. What's his net worth? He made a lot of money. 200 million? Yeah, he made a lot of money and he was a star. Probably close to 400, 500. And all of that stuff that you go through. You chose to sign up for this job. What is it? 400 million? 400 million. 400 million bucks. Cry me a frickin' river, David Letterman. Yeah. Oh my god, it's so hard. But, but, but let me tell you. He wipes his tears with his $100 bills. Going back to what we talked about earlier, the water well, temperature is what? 18. No matter what the outside is. You're not a robot. He's in it being pressured by people on the left, being pressured by everybody. He's like, oh, what do I do here? In 22 years, it's time for Kimmel to walk out and replace him with somebody else. You know who needed

• 2:13:08Patrick Bet-David?

  to read this article? The number one person that needs to read this article is Jimmy Kimmel.

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• 2:13:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Brown and a small coffee for just $5 only at McDonald's for a limited time. Price and participation may vary. Promotion pricing may be lower than real pricing. Go read this article. I am sure they've already spoken. If not, contact them. It's time for Kimmel to step away and bring somebody that's a non-bitter person. Left, right, center, anything that people on the left or the right would like to listen to. Because 90% of his job is going to be purely entertainment. Less than 10% is going to be politics. And if you do choose politics, make fun of everybody on all sides, not just on one side. That's what late night show needs to be. You want to know the most interesting part of Jimmy Kimmel? What's that?

• 2:14:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Just as fate would have it, you know, when his contract expires? When? The end of 2025. So based on- 22 years letterman. There you go. Yeah. So based on your analysis- They will not renew. They're not going to renew this. If I'm a betting man- He's under contract until 2025. If I am a betting man and ABC, which is owned by Disney.

• 2:14:54Patrick Bet-David?

  If I'm a betting man and Disney is seeing what's going on with the Kennedy girl, what was the Kennedy person? What is Kathleen Kennedy? I think her name is. Is that her name? For who's this? What is the lady with Disney, the one that making all these woke stuff that she's making?

• 2:15:07Speaker 07

  Kathleen Kennedy.

• 2:15:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Kathleen Kennedy, that one right there that a lot of people fear in that business. Is she part of the Kennedy legacy family? I don't know. She's part of the Kennedy legacy family, but she is in that space. The direction Bob Iger has to go. If he signs Stephen A. With Stephen A. talking as much shit as he is about the left and Democrats. If he signs Stephen A. and gives that big, you know, contract that he's asking for. And if they sign, they drop Kimmel and bring somebody else. It tells you capitalism is forcing Disney to get their act together. What type of person would it take for you to watch consistently, not just randomly one offs? A late night TV show?

• 2:15:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Like what type of person? Because clearly they're not going to bring in a righty. And they're not, if they have any sensibilities, they're not going to just double down on the Kimmel type. I don't think they exist. Is there anybody out there? I think they're out there. No, there's people out there. Imagine you bring in like, just make up a name, an Andrew Schultz or a Marcelo, maybe he's too young. But there's names out there that could, listen, in my opinion, late night TV, there's a wide open space for the middle ground. Yeah. Listen, you know, come at me. I don't think Greg Gutfeld is the most talented guy. Likeable, smart, okay, cool. Not funny. Doesn't have big guests. Nobody's going on to Fox News. Hollywood's not going to Fox News. But everyone is so- Let's, let's, let's actually go through it. Kill Tony. Tony can't do it.

• 2:16:36Patrick Bet-David?

  He can't do it. You know why? Not that he can't do it.

• 2:16:39Speaker 06

  They won't let him know-

• 2:16:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, he's not, no. That's not his- He doesn't have the what? He just doesn't have the likability. He's an insult comic. You don't put an insult, you don't put Don Rickles to host a show. You're bringing him on as a guest. Fair. But I, but I think his show, for what he's doing right now, he's gonna make the same amount of money and be free and happier. So I think that's that part, right? Cause some of these guys don't even want, want this job. It's gotta be somebody that's a closet conservative, that is willing to play the card, but internally also protects himself. Mm-hmm. You know, and, and kind of wants this job. So y- y- you know, I don't know if you understand what I'm saying with that. It, it can't, so that eliminates so many different people. Okay? Like to me, I think Marcelo's a libertarian.

• 2:17:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he loves America. His mom is Cuban. I think some of that stuff. I think, I think- And his dad is Dominican, of course. He worked here for a couple of years, helping out with Sauce Cast. That's true. At the beginning. He was always, you know, he's a young guy that he has been non-political at all. He doesn't touch politics. It's a guy like that. Okay? It's not Hinchcliffe. It's, it's even, I used to say Schultz. But Schultz in the last 12 months went hardcore. Okay? He did. Hardcore what?

• 2:17:50Speaker 06

  He talked politics.

• 2:17:52Patrick Bet-David?

  He didn't hold back. That's what America needs. By the way, yeah, of course. But I also now don't think it's Schultz's job. I, I think after 2024, Schultz is off that list for them to go after. So I don't even think Schultz is that, and I was the one that told him to his face. I think, you remember when I told him that?

• 2:18:07Speaker 06

  I was right here.

• 2:18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. But I don't think it's Schultz anymore. And, and by the way, you know what it tells me? I don't think Schultz wants it.

• 2:18:12Speaker 06

  Nope.

• 2:18:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he's like, I don't give a shit. I'm not gonna come and be confined in your place and be miserable. I don't think. I could be wrong. I'm not in the guy's head, and I don't talk to him regularly enough to know what he wants to do. But I think it's a guy like this guy. I think it's Marcelo.

• 2:18:28Speaker 06

  Uh, the only thing that sucks for us though, come January 20th, we're gonna have four years of Trump. And that's all Colbert, that's all Kimmel, all Bill Maher, that's all they're gonna do.

• 2:18:39Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not gonna work though.

• 2:18:41Speaker 06

  You don't, I think the ratings are gonna go up because that's all they're gonna talk about.

• 2:18:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I get that, but what I'm saying to you is, what I'm saying to you is, um, you know, like, it needs to be somebody that just take me back to the game.

• 2:18:54Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 2:18:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I'm excited about NBA? It's for somebody to face the NBA that's just, let us watch the game. Don't give me any political stuff, nothing. Left, right, center, nothing. Just play the game. Tom Brady was a conservative. You know what he ever did with politics? Nothing. He just played the game. Michael Jordan is probably a center-right guy. Deep down inside, maybe wrong, he's probably a center-right guy. No one ever knew. Well, you played a game, okay? And it was fun to watch the game. Uh, Kobe was probably a center-left guy. But guess what? He played the game and he enjoyed watching the game. This, this new era of entertainment, let me be entertained.

• 2:19:34Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:19:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me be entertained with this additional stuff. I think a guy like this would be the guy. I think a lot of people, it used to be a dream to be at SNL. It's not everybody's dreams right now. It used to be a lot of people's dream to be at, uh, what do you call it? A late night show. I think those days of that being a dream is gone. It used to be a lot of people's dreams to win an Oscar. I'm telling you, a lot of people's dream of winning an Oscar is out the window because they don't wanna cave to all the bullshit stuff of doing what they're doing. Vinnie right now, Vitamint Comedy, guys, if you're not following it or not, just two months ago was at 50,000 subs. You know what's happened with Vitamint Comedy? It's at 215,000 subs, Vitamint Comedy.

• 2:20:16Patrick Bet-David?

  215,000 subs. And I'm willing to bet this Vitamint Comedy, I told Vinnie, in the business plan, I wrote, 2 million subs before the end of the year. We said a long time ago, Vitamint Comedy is gonna be competing with SNL. It just is. You know what allows you to do? Just be yourself, make people laugh, be respectful. You don't have to drop the F-bomb, suck this, suck that. You can just have funny jokes you're telling, entertain people and have talent's gonna grow. This thing went from 50 to 215 because Vinnie's just having a blast making people laugh. And our crew who are non-actors are getting in there doing stuff that's funny as hell. I think comedy is going in a different direction. A very different direction and there's a big market for it. But I think late night is for somebody else. I don't think late night is.

• 2:21:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And I, I, I think 90% of people that would love to have the late night show would be miserable if they had the job. I don't think they want it. It needs to be somebody that's like, listen, I'm not interested in politics. I really am not. I could care less about this stuff. Am I interested in, in life of politics? Politics, probably number seven. As you age, politics does what? Goes higher and higher and higher in, in importance. Uh, you know what I watched last night? Tom, you know what I watched last night? I watched Johnny Carson last night.

• 2:21:27Speaker 06

  Oh, wow.

• 2:21:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what episode I watched with Johnny Carson? I watched Johnny Carson's episode last night. Johnny Carson's got a YouTube channel with a million subs, if you can go on it.

• 2:21:35Speaker 06

  Johnny's the hardest working man in show business. Look at him, still doing YouTube.

• 2:21:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Johnny Carson's YouTube channel, it's got a million subs, exactly. If you can go on it, Rob. Yeah, right there. I watched Johnny Carson's interview with Billy Graham last night.

• 2:21:47Speaker 06

  Really?

• 2:21:48Patrick Bet-David?

  It's like 24 minutes, 29 minutes. It was awesome. It was awesome.

• 2:21:54Speaker 06

  The preacher?

• 2:21:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what he asked Billy Graham? He says, hey, Billy, this is probably a tough question to ask you, but have you ever watched, uh, uh, X-rated movies?

• 2:22:04Speaker 06

  And they went, the, the audience bursts, the laughter is one of those laughers where you're like.

• 2:22:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So cool.

• 2:22:10Speaker 06

  Yes, yes.

• 2:22:11Patrick Bet-David?

  It was so cool. The, I just, I, I love Johnny.

• 2:22:16Speaker 06

  Yup.

• 2:22:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I love Johnny. And I'm telling you, to me, for somebody to want to have this job, they, they, even Johnny at the end, if you watch his documentary, he was miserable. When they gave him an award at the end, Adam.

• 2:22:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, sir.

• 2:22:31Patrick Bet-David?

  When they gave him an award at the end, Adam, what are you doing? What do you want him to do?

• 2:22:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't worry about me.

• 2:22:35Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you want to tell him? Tell him right now.

• 2:22:36Tom Ellsworth?

  I just want to see what the most popular is, because I watched the one with Frank Sinatra and Don Rickles.

• 2:22:40Speaker 06

  That's the one.

• 2:22:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we've seen that. So, eh, eh, when, when they were, when they were doing.

• 2:22:45Tom Ellsworth?

  20 million views.

• 2:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy.

• 2:22:47Speaker 06

  Bro.

• 2:22:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 2:22:48Speaker 06

  He's trying to talk.

• 2:22:48Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the matter with you guys?

• 2:22:50Tom Ellsworth?

  I was just talking to Rob.

• 2:22:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Didn't look at it on your iPad. You got an iPad here.

• 2:22:53Speaker 06

  Uh, he's pulling it up.

• 2:22:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Want me to, want me to, want me to go?

• 2:22:58Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy, go to the bathroom right now.

• 2:22:59Speaker 06

  Yeah, go pee, bro.

• 2:23:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Listen, I got my gar shook under here, don't worry about it.

• 2:23:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Middle of a conversation. So at the end of his career, even Johnny was burned out. They gave him a recognition, I wanted the interviews. Won the recognition ceremonies, whatever it was. And they took a shot at him. Because he had four divorces, he had alcohol problems and all this stuff. He actually didn't like it. I don't know if you've seen this or not, Tom. He didn't like it and he came back and took a shot back at the person. You know, kinda like a go F yourself type of deal. It's a very good documentary of Johnny Carson. I will say, with Letterman saying it, I do think it's a very hard job. You know why it's a very hard job? Let me tell you why it's a very hard job.

• 2:23:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So... Five days a week, you're responsible for entertaining people late at night?

• 2:23:53Speaker 06

  And be relevant, Pat, and on it all the time.

• 2:23:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And stay relevant with all the criticism and everything constantly? You have to stay happy 24/7 while you're doing this?

• 2:24:00Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:24:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, look, I'm not sitting here feeling sorry for these guys. But to be on every day for that long and you don't have a break? Like, go take a three-week vacation. You can't do that.

• 2:24:11Speaker 06

  No. Hell, no. They take maybe, maybe like two nights off, Johnny's not in, and Rickles filled in for him.

• 2:24:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, anyways, it's 11:30, we went four minutes over. Guys, this was actually a phenomenal podcast, really enjoyed it. Uh, the only thing I didn't like about it is the fact that Adam didn't take his typical bathroom break that he does.

• 2:24:28Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I did, just win my dance.

• 2:24:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So, anyways, today's what? Today's Thursday, Rob?

• 2:24:33Speaker 06

  Yes, sir.

• 2:24:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Today's Thursday. Uh, do we have anything else going on this weekend?

• 2:24:37Speaker 06

  No, we'll be back live Tuesday morning.

• 2:24:38Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll be back live Tuesday morning, gang. Happy New Year to you. God bless. Future looks bright. We will see you guys again next week. Take care. Have a great weekend. Bye-bye.

• 2:24:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Happy New Year.

• 2:24:54Patrick Bet-David?

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