KHC 215 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 34

We’re back with a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly episode! This week we’re covering more controversy with doping in ultra races, football, the cancel culture, and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Intro: Topics You Didn’t Need to Know About 00:08:03 – “Doping” in Ultra Races & Jealousy from Weak Minds 00:21:00 – Jeff Browning Health Update 00:22:46 – James’ High School Paintball Story 00:26:39 – Oregon Ducks Football 00:30:29 – Jimmy Kimmel Show, Gas Prices, & the Paul Brothers 00:35:39 – Jelly Roll’s First Elk Hunt 00:39:08 – Cancel Culture 00:41:20 – James’ First Solo Episode 00:42:34 – The End of the Bentley Giveaway 00:50:08 – Stop Sexualizing Big Jugs Joke 00:52:04 – Mark Dowdle & Other Upcoming Guests 00:55:06 – Final Thoughts Thanks to our sponsors: Ketone IQ: Visit https://www.ketone.com/Cam and use code CAM for 30% off your subscription order PLUS receive a free gift with your second shipment - or find Ketone-IQ at CVS stores nationwide and get $5 off your first 6-pack for a limited time! Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off ALP: https://alppouch.com/ use code CAM for 10% off your first order Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 10% your order Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM for 10% off optics

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• 2:20Speaker 01

  Every step I take, I move my truth. Every time they tell me stop, I use every comment hate that makes my feel. Gather up my energy and boom. I hear them talking, saying the way that I move is so reckless. That is a part of my mind I've been blessed with, giving my blood, so I am relentless.

• 2:34Cameron Hanes?

  Live, baby. Let me readjust this mic, because I'm taller now, had a growth spurt. This is Shit Talkers Weekly 34. Is that right?

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• 2:52Cameron Hanes?

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• 3:13Speaker 02

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• 3:16Cameron Hanes?

  I did put up that meme that said, "All the blood that's in my boner also went through my heart." That's beautiful.

• 3:40Cameron Hanes?

  How did you get that down? That is some frickin' throat control there. I wonder if the guys love you.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  The throat goat.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  Oh, man. No messes allowed.

• 3:54Cameron Hanes?

  So that was, that was a rough start, but it's all love, baby.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:00Cameron Hanes?

  This is Shit Talkers Weekly, which means it is all love. And except for what I'm going to say about Finn Malanson. No love there.

• 4:12Speaker 02

  I thought I had to prompt you about that.

• 4:13Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no. Oh, no, I don't even, yeah, I don't even know what I'm talking about. Hold on, I'm gonna say. But if I did, yeah, you'll prompt me on it.

• 4:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:24Cameron Hanes?

  So.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  Prompt. First things first, Camille Heron has an OnlyFans.

• 4:31Cameron Hanes?

  Holy shit. Okay, what is going on with the ultra world? God. If the stuff I read, of course, this is all from Max Jollun Unsolicited Meme, so I really hope she's not writing the shit that they post. Is that real?

• 4:51Speaker 02

  It can't be. If it is.

• 4:55Cameron Hanes?

  Is that, that should get you banned from fucking ultra running.

• 4:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, we, I mean, that's gotta be a lot worse than everything else that people got their panties in a wad about.

• 5:06Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, my God. I.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Sunset finger bang?

• 5:11Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, that is beautiful. That is beautiful. But I don't need to know about that.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  No, I don't.

• 5:18Cameron Hanes?

  At all. And I don't want to know.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  And maybe it's not, let's hope it's not real.

• 5:24Cameron Hanes?

  It makes me want to delete all my, destroy my phone.

• 5:30Speaker 02

  Makes you want to delete all my OnlyFans accounts.

• 5:33Cameron Hanes?

  So I don't accidentally stumble upon something. God, because my algorithm, so now, yeah, Max Jollun Unsolicited Meme page has fucked up my algorithm. So now it thinks I care about Camille. I think. Ooh. Then I see all her shit. But, well, yeah, there's no, well, I don't know.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  If you subscribe for $3.99, you really could see all of her shit.

• 5:57Cameron Hanes?

  Is it $4? Is that what it costs?

• 5:59Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 6:05Cameron Hanes?

  Your friend told you? Is that, my friend told me?

• 6:09Speaker 02

  My friend made an account and, well.

• 6:11Cameron Hanes?

  You wouldn't believe this video my friend showed me.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  And he paid for it.

• 6:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Oh, my, yeah, I don't even know what the hell's going on, but this definitely gives, I don't know, gives the ultra scene something to talk about.

• 6:28Speaker 02

  I guess. Yeah, I mean, maybe she's ahead of the curve. She's, that autism's got her seen into the future. Can we say that? I have autism. Yeah, so.

• 6:41Cameron Hanes?

  Does it neurodivergent or something?

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, neurodivergent person of color. Okay, actually, this is something I never got to bring up.

• 6:53Cameron Hanes?

  And this is all love.

• 6:54Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 6:55Cameron Hanes?

  Remember, this is, you can't even, this is, doesn't even count for actually.

• 6:59Speaker 02

  I said person of color the last time, and, or not last time, one of the times, and people thought I had a problem with people of color.

• 7:07Cameron Hanes?

  No, that's, I thought you were supposed to say that.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm trying to get it right for you guys.

• 7:11Cameron Hanes?

  If you say, if you say a black person, then you're canceled.

• 7:15Speaker 02

  That's racist.

• 7:17Cameron Hanes?

  But I'm white, right?

• 7:19Speaker 02

  Right. So we're already racist.

• 7:22Cameron Hanes?

  No, I just had a throat noise. But can I say I'm white? Or do I have to say I'm something else?

• 7:30Speaker 02

  You have to say you're something else. I'm up a winnoway.

• 7:36Cameron Hanes?

  I have a Cherokee card.

• 7:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:39Cameron Hanes?

  So.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  Which is why I'm allowed to do that voice, actually. You gave me the pass.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  This is where my ancestors are.

• 7:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 7:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 7:51Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, that's, that's cool.

• 7:52Speaker 02

  So, in other news.

• 7:55Cameron Hanes?

  Does any of this, can we put any of this out?

• 7:57Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, people are gonna love this.

• 7:58Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  It's been a while.

• 8:01Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  We do have some ultra news. Mike McKnight, friend of the show.

• 8:08Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 8:08Speaker 02

  Good friend of the show.

• 8:09Cameron Hanes?

  Yep, great guy.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  Just finished 210 miles, 83,000 feet of vert.

• 8:14Cameron Hanes?

  Whoa, legit.

• 8:15Speaker 02

  How's that? Is that easy?

• 8:18Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, first American, and here, okay, are we going to get into this right now? Am I going to talk about this right now?

• 8:24Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 8:25Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, here's what, and if this is an unsubstantiated rumor, I will apologize.

• 8:36Cameron Hanes?

  But Finn Malanson of Single Track, whatever the fuck podcast, I used to like it, whatever. If this is true, I heard Finn called the race to tell him Mike McKnight was a doper.

• 8:50Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 8:51Cameron Hanes?

  And so I'm like.

• 8:56Speaker 02

  Deep breaths?

• 8:59Cameron Hanes?

  My first question is, why? Okay. Let's see.

• 9:05Speaker 02

  Let's break this down.

• 9:07Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, so Mike got on this podcast and explained he used BPC 157.

• 9:14Speaker 02

  Right.

• 9:15Cameron Hanes?

  To avoid back surgery.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 9:16Cameron Hanes?

  So he's had back surgery. He was in so much pain, he was actually crying about his back. He was completely debilitated, debilitated. So, anyway, so that was all discussed. There was news, there's articles on it, Canadian running news. Everybody's fucking talking about it. This fucking race obviously heard about it, right? Why would Finn, some fucking guy from Utah with a podcast, just a fucking guy? It was like, oh, do you work for USADA? Do you work for WADA? Do you, what, what is your affiliate? Why would you call about a runner from America going to Europe for the first time?

• 10:00Cameron Hanes?

  Thousands of dollars in expenses, taking his family, needs to perform, yes, took this BPC 157 to avoid back surgery. Whenever that was, I didn't even know what the fuck it was. But why, why would you feel the need just as a regular guy? Obviously, they know about it. And I think Mike talked to him about it, too. Talked to the race about it.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm sure he did.

• 10:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 10:26Speaker 02

  I mean, he came on here and said it.

• 10:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, so.

• 10:31Cameron Hanes?

  Is it your responsibility? To just try to fuck somebody over? Just because, and here's the thing with these, and then, and then they talk on their podcast, I think, I didn't listen, but about stripping all mics. Results from Destination Trail. Okay. Finn, I'll talk to you.

• 10:53Cameron Hanes?

  You don't make the rules for ultras, okay? The race directors make the rules. You can't make up rules like, oh, here's the rules for the Olympics. All the races need to follow these rules. That's not your decision. So these fucking rules, everybody's like him, Sage, all these fucking got rules shoved up their ass about rules, rules, rules. These aren't the fucking rules. These aren't the rules. You can't make up rules and say, I'm going to apply them to this. These are the rules I want. Well, who are you?

• 11:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, and if you are going to have rules up your ass, you better stick to every single one of them. In which case, half the field is out because they smoke weed.

• 11:34Cameron Hanes?

  Ultra, I mean, come on, ultra is weed, mushrooms, painkillers, who knows what else? I don't, I don't even care.

• 11:43Speaker 02

  I feel like if you stopped at some random aid station and made them empty out their little hip.

• 11:48Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  Belt, you're going to find some interesting things in those.

• 11:52Cameron Hanes?

  I, I just don't, so.

• 11:56Cameron Hanes?

  I, I mean, I just don't, I just don't get it. I don't understand.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  I try to think like, okay, I, I try to put things in the most black and white as possible. So let's say, let's say Mike killed somebody and Finn was the only person that knew.

• 12:13Speaker 02

  Obviously, you have some social responsibility and obligation to tell.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  Authorities, maybe, depending on the.

• 12:21Cameron Hanes?

  To report the murder.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. So can we work backwards from there to where they would somehow make sense? To report his BPC usage.

• 12:33Cameron Hanes?

  It's very similar to murder.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 12:35Cameron Hanes?

  Very similar.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  That's enough getting at.

• 12:37Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  I don't get it, like. And furthermore, you guys are so mad because you're the dorks and you got these cool guys coming in. Why make yourself more of a dork?

• 12:47Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know.

• 12:48Speaker 02

  Like they can't help it.

• 12:49Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't know. I mean, and here's, here's what I want to say. I love ultra runners. I love this spirit of ultra running. These fucking talking head dipshits who think.

• 13:02Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, I.

• 13:05Cameron Hanes?

  I don't even know, because if you're an actual journalist, you would have nuance. You'd be able to look at things with, at, with a different perspective, maybe like try to understand, maybe talk to Mike, maybe see like, hey, these races. You know, these race directors, they're not holding the runners, you know, accountable to these USADA standards. So is it the runner's responsibility to go there and say, hey? I really think you need to be testing for, it's like, we can't.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 13:32Cameron Hanes?

  We can't make them do whatever. So like with Aravipa, I went into Cogadona. I told him about all the Sage bullshit and I just said, good to go. Okay, so what the fuck am I supposed to do?

• 13:46Cameron Hanes?

  I don't, what is Mike supposed to do? He avoided surgery. He's healthy. He's a professional runner.

• 13:52Speaker 02

  Right.

• 13:53Cameron Hanes?

  The USADA WADA restrictions on BPC do not apply. Because they're not part of the rules. There's no race that we've run that is sanctioned by USADA.

• 14:04Speaker 02

  No.

• 14:05Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Cogadona, they get their insurance through USADA or whatever. So there's some weird tie in. But it doesn't mean that it's sanctioned by USADA and it doesn't mean that there's drug testing. It doesn't mean like you can't take TRT because half the fucking field is on TRT. Or the women are on something for their hormones, which is fine. Or people are, what, it doesn't matter.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  Right.

• 14:27Cameron Hanes?

  It doesn't fucking matter because it has nothing to do with the race because it's not sanctioned by any of these governing bodies.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Right.

• 14:34Cameron Hanes?

  So some guy in Utah doesn't agree with that, or some fucking dork in Colorado doesn't agree with that. So they're calling USADA. USADA is like, obviously they turned me in. Can't do shit. You can't do shit because it's not part of what we do.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  Right, so. And just, just to reiterate this, I know he called the, the race, but people probably did call USADA.

• 14:56Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, guarantee, I guarantee fucking Sage was on the, the phone with USADA 20 times, I bet.

• 15:02Speaker 02

  So just so you guys know that called USADA, the first U and S of USADA is United States. Mike was racing in Europe.

• 15:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 15:11Speaker 02

  So. WADA would have been your best bet there.

• 15:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't know. I just, it just drives me crazy how fucking.

• 15:21Cameron Hanes?

  I can't, I don't even understand it.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  I don't either.

• 15:24Cameron Hanes?

  I do not understand. It's not how men behave. It's not, it, to me, making a call to fuck somebody over. That is as genuine as it comes, has been as honest as it comes, has actually dealt with serious health issues. To me, calling to fuck them over is cowardly. And if, okay, the amount of pain Mike's been in racing and, and hurting his back. It's like.

• 15:58Cameron Hanes?

  Can you, I mean, Finn, which whatever, he fucking dropped out of a race, Trans Grand Canary or some fucking thing because of a stomach ache. It's like, so is that how you deal with pain? If you deal with pain by just quitting, but you're, but you're commenting on Mike McKnight for having back surgery and trying to avoid back surgery and being and dehabilitated, real pain with an injured back. I don't think you can relate.

• 16:25Speaker 02

  No.

• 16:26Cameron Hanes?

  To fucking actual pain and suffering. You had a fucking tummy ache and quit your race. So fuck these guys. God, I love ultra runners. I love the actual people that do it. These fucking.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  It has to be, it has to come from some place of jealousy, right? I mean.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  Otherwise, I don't know what you would get out of it if it, if it worked. If, if he'd called, Mike got pulled, he didn't get to race, like what? What is that solving inside for Finn? I'm trying to understand a motive.

• 16:59Cameron Hanes?

  No, he, he would say something like.

• 17:03Cameron Hanes?

  Holding people accountable or, or the, the race is, is like, the ultra scene is growing. And so it's part of growing pains to get this. I guess drug testing, I don't know. I don't know. I, I think they think everyone is just like on EPO or some shit. And it's just like. I have still never talked to one person in my entire life. Well, I guess I talked to Lance Armstrong, nevermind, who actually has been on EPO or even knows where to get it, how to get it. I mean, I've never asked him, but I've never heard anybody say they've actually done it.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:44Cameron Hanes?

  And, and I, but I think these fucking guys think that what is everybody just juiced up out there and just, no. These fucking multi-day races, people are just trying to survive. They're not, they're not, it's not performance. You got to realize in an ultra, in like a multi-day ultra, there's like 10 people racing. Everybody else is just trying to survive.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  I just feel like you could take, okay, this isn't what happened, but you could take all the BPC you wanted. It's. At what point is that helping run 210 miles?

• 18:17Cameron Hanes?

  Dude.

• 18:18Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? I mean.

• 18:19Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, I did it one time in 2024 and these fucking.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  Well, I feel like there's other shit that's going on in aid stations, like numbing sprays and painkillers, like you said, and all this other shit that's like happening during the race.

• 18:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  And I still, I'm like, whatever, do whatever you want.

• 18:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't give a shit.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  I kind of, it's like, I don't think there's much that you could take that's going to help you. Like.

• 18:44Cameron Hanes?

  Fuck no.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  It's 210 miles.

• 18:46Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, or 250 miles or 256 miles.

• 18:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's.

• 18:51Cameron Hanes?

  Here's what you'd need to take for an actual performance enhancing. I think in like an multi-day, 250 mile ultra.

• 19:00Cameron Hanes?

  Cocaine?

• 19:01Speaker 02

  Yep. Check.

• 19:04Cameron Hanes?

  Oxy for pain.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  Check.

• 19:06Cameron Hanes?

  So does cocaine, does that, what does that do? Does that pop your heart? What, what like makes you go?

• 19:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:14Cameron Hanes?

  Meth?

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, meth would keep you awake.

• 19:17Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, so meth, oxy for pain,

• 19:22Cameron Hanes?

  and boner pills. Just for, because boners are cool.

• 19:26Speaker 02

  And maybe a barbiturate.

• 19:28Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, so that, if you took that cocktail, I've actually said this in a race that I wanted steroids.

• 19:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, meth, I think oxy, and then I did say, what was the, God, now I can't remember what the other category was. But anyway, I said I needed all those.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  And just so you guys know, you would have to administer them rectally for it to have maximum efficacy. You like that? I pulled that one out.

• 19:59Cameron Hanes?

  Word, dude.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  I know.

• 20:00Cameron Hanes?

  Efficacy, that's not even easy to say.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  I know.

• 20:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  I'm impressed, but, but yeah, anyways.

• 20:05Cameron Hanes?

  Anyway, so that's a rant, sorry. Hey, Finn, if you didn't call, and you're a great guy, and you support Mike, and you're all about just being a positive, I mean, he'll say he's being positive by doing this fucking bullshit, but I'll apologize. But if what I'm hearing is true, dude, what the fuck?

• 20:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, if he didn't call, that.

• 20:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, if he didn't call, then I'm, I'm an asshole. I'm, I'm not cool.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  We're gonna wear that one, yeah.

• 20:33Cameron Hanes?

  Well, that's gonna hurt.

• 20:36Cameron Hanes?

  That's gonna hurt. I, but I'm already canceled out of Ultra, so why the hell would I care?

• 20:40Speaker 02

  You can't do anything now.

• 20:41Cameron Hanes?

  Fuck you guys. How about that? Not Courtney, not Rachel, not Killian, not Mike McKnight, not Sally, not Max, for fuck's sake. Love him. Not Jeff Browning, love him. Everybody else, you fuck yourself.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was actually on my list because we didn't give it, we had, the last one we did, Jeff Browning, we had just found out the news. So now we have an update. He's out of the hospital and.

• 21:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  Home, so.

• 21:13Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no, it's, I think he's, yeah, I'm so glad he's home. It seems like he's doing good. I haven't talked, I haven't texted or anything, you know, I've been gone hunting forever. But, uh, yeah, what a relief. He's okay. But yeah, that's, you know, the way the community came together for Jeff, that's what I'd love to see. All this other, I don't know, maybe this is just growing pains. Maybe me fucking talking shit about everybody is out of line and wouldn't be the first time, but man, it's frustrating to see.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  That's also, it's shit talkers, so.

• 21:45Cameron Hanes?

  Doesn't count.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  Actually, yeah. Even if he didn't call, we can't be held accountable for any of that because.

• 21:50Cameron Hanes?

  This is satire.

• 21:52Speaker 02

  It's satire.

• 21:54Cameron Hanes?

  This isn't real.

• 21:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, guys, it's a comedy podcast.

• 21:57Cameron Hanes?

  There is no person named Finn, because why would somebody be named Finn?

• 22:02Speaker 02

  Short for Phineas.

• 22:04Cameron Hanes?

  Is it? Oh, probably.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  Has to be.

• 22:06Cameron Hanes?

  Is that a real name?

• 22:07Speaker 02

  Phineas and Ferb.

• 22:09Cameron Hanes?

  That's a cartoon or something, isn't it?

• 22:11Speaker 02

  Well, tattletaling is a real cartoon.

• 22:15Cameron Hanes?

  Anyway, what, I fucking liked Finn, and I think Jeff, and, God, some other guy on there. Um, God, I think he's from here. I fucking like those guys. Why, why do we have to be the fucking narcs? God.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:32Cameron Hanes?

  Did anybody like, remember being a narc in school? That's like the worst thing you could be.

• 22:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:38Cameron Hanes?

  Somebody go, you go write fuck on the chalkboard and sit down. You don't want to.

• 22:43Speaker 02

  This, I got a good story.

• 22:45Cameron Hanes?

  Cam did it.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  I got a good story about being a narc. So in fifth grade, I mowed a couple lawns, saved up a little bit of money.

• 22:55Cameron Hanes?

  Suck some dicks.

• 22:56Speaker 02

  Suck some dicks. Let my uncle.

• 22:59Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, no, no, no, no.

• 23:02Cameron Hanes?

  Easy.

• 23:03Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 23:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, we, we can, the flaccio is fine.

• 23:09Cameron Hanes?

  God, these words we're pulling out of our ass. What is, see this ketone?

• 23:13Speaker 02

  Flaccio.

• 23:14Cameron Hanes?

  I can't, flaccio with ketone.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  Efficacy with ketone.

• 23:20Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, you think we can just do that on our own?

• 23:23Speaker 02

  No.

• 23:24Cameron Hanes?

  I can barely speak in a complete sentence.

• 23:26Speaker 02

  That's ketone straight to the dome right there.

• 23:29Cameron Hanes?

  Boom!

• 23:33Cameron Hanes?

  Fuck!

• 23:36Cameron Hanes?

  Don't they do this like when they hit a three? Yeah.

• 23:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, something like that. What was it? Oh, yeah. So saved up money,

• 23:45Speaker 02

  and bought, me and my brother bought paintball guns.

• 23:47Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  Well, I had the bright idea to go to my elementary school and play paintball. Monday rolls around and, you know, I had told a couple people that I played paintball. All of a sudden, like, somebody was in trouble, like, somebody had shot the school with paintball guns.

• 24:07Cameron Hanes?

  What?

• 24:08Speaker 02

  Vandalism was being thrown out.

• 24:10Cameron Hanes?

  Who would do that?

• 24:12Speaker 02

  And everybody had their mouths shut.

• 24:15Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm, except.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  See, a rat with a closed mouth doesn't get caught.

• 24:20Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  Except for this fucker.

• 24:24Cameron Hanes?

  Your brother.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  No.

• 24:26Cameron Hanes?

  Oh.

• 24:27Speaker 02

  Connor Valinga.

• 24:29Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 24:31Cameron Hanes?

  Connor, you.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  If you listen.

• 24:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 24:33Speaker 02

  I still remember that.

• 24:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  And he ratted me out.

• 24:35Cameron Hanes?

  So what happened?

• 24:37Speaker 02

  I got detention.

• 24:38Cameron Hanes?

  Ooh, hard time.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  And I had to go out to the playground and pick up and wash the walls

• 24:45Speaker 02

  of my paintball balls.

• 24:47Cameron Hanes?

  Connor, I mean, why can't the janitor do that? What the fuck else is he doing?

• 24:52Speaker 02

  And what's that fucker paid for?

• 24:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, he, he's just like peeking through his little hole he drilled in the girls locker room.

• 25:01Speaker 02

  He's busy.

• 25:02Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, it seems like he'd have time.

• 25:06Cameron Hanes?

  Fucking step away from the fucking peephole and go clean up this shit.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  He's busy drilling one into the boys.

• 25:14Cameron Hanes?

  So anyway, yeah.

• 25:16Speaker 02

  So don't be a narc.

• 25:17Cameron Hanes?

  We'll throw Connor in with Sage and Finn.

• 25:20Speaker 02

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• 25:22Cameron Hanes?

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• 26:06Cameron Hanes?

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• 26:40Speaker 02

  Well, in other news, we gotta talk about some other things. We'll go to something light. How about them Oregon Ducks?

• 26:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, fuck, we're on one, dude. Yeah, we're, as long as we just play Portland State every week, we're gonna dominate.

• 26:55Speaker 02

  I do feel like 84-0, play until the clock hit, nil.

• 27:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 27:03Speaker 02

  It's like, I get what you're trying to do, but also,

• 27:07Speaker 02

  maybe you shouldn't have gotten beat by Oklahoma State.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, we really took it to Portland State.

• 27:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't know what the hell. I mean, so we beat Oklahoma State 69-3 last year. This year, we lose with Dante Moore back, with all these five stars, supposedly like the second best recruiting class in the country. How?

• 27:33Cameron Hanes?

  What, how, how does that happen?

• 27:34Speaker 02

  Well.

• 27:37Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 27:37Speaker 02

  Hard work beats talent. Maybe they got a little complacent.

• 27:40Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, so Lanning seems like fucking the man. I, I love him, but to me, it feels like, and Dan, I'm sorry, this is shit talkers.

• 27:52Speaker 02

  It's all love.

• 27:53Cameron Hanes?

  It's, it's all love.

• 27:56Cameron Hanes?

  If we have the better athletes, which we do.

• 28:00Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 28:00Cameron Hanes?

  And normally Dante Moore, one of the best quarterbacks in the country. If not, well, no, that Miami quarterback's fucking money.

• 28:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:09Cameron Hanes?

  But so maybe he's number two. Normally, the best quarterback on the field wins. Okay, that's how, that's just how it works. It's fucking got a ball in his hands every time, right? So if you got the best athlete getting his ball in his hands every time and you got five stars everywhere. Coaching, baby. That's coaching.

• 28:31Speaker 02

  Sometimes the truth stings.

• 28:32Cameron Hanes?

  That's, that's coaching.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:33Cameron Hanes?

  And I mean, Dan, you know, Coach Lanning, I know he's looked himself, he's an honest, he knows, he knows the game. He looked himself in the mirror and he knows that's on me.

• 28:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:43Cameron Hanes?

  And all I'm, I didn't watch the whole game. I wa, I was, is gone hunting. Or, yeah, I saw some clips, but God, do we have to go for every fucking fourth down? We're fourth and like eight or seven on our own thirty something?

• 29:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. When did that start happening?

• 29:02Cameron Hanes?

  I understand being aggressive and just like, cause if you convert, it does, it's a morale fucking killer for the, for the defense.

• 29:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:12Cameron Hanes?

  Cause they're like, God, we can't even stop these guys on four, in their own, you know, they're not, they're not worried about our defense at all. But when they stop us every time.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  It's also a huge morale booster.

• 29:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So we went for, I think, three and got stuffed on everyone. That morale is on the other side. So that's the, that's the price you pay with being, I, I just, I mean, being aggressive, fine. Being, um, I don't, I don't know. I mean, aggressive.

• 29:44Speaker 02

  We can pull another word out. Come on.

• 29:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, it's just not intelligent. Is it? To go for those?

• 29:52Speaker 02

  I'm trying to think of a word that's being aggressive in a low percentage scenario.

• 30:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's not likely. We're, it's not likely to, we're not likely to convert that.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  I think, I think I used up my ketone on the other word. That's not ethical.

• 30:11Cameron Hanes?

  I've been fucking coughing since, for a month.

• 30:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:16Cameron Hanes?

  Dude, I'm actually better now, but God, these, this, whatever the hell I had, I, I don't even know where I got it, but it's sticking around. I feel fine, but man, that cough won't go away.

• 30:29Speaker 02

  Okay, I got, we got another topic to talk about and this one is also going to come with a rant, I think.

• 30:33Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, another rant.

• 30:34Speaker 02

  Well, it's going to come, at least for me.

• 30:36Cameron Hanes?

  This should be called rant talkers weekly.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  First we'll start with the positive, which is Jelly Roll.

• 30:42Cameron Hanes?

  Big bull. Awesome.

• 30:44Speaker 02

  First bull, he's an elk hunter.

• 30:46Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, so sick. So.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:52Cameron Hanes?

  Holy shit, dude. The amount of people, I mean, here's, here's my problem. I love blocking people. I love it. I love blocking people so much because all I can envision is their retarded dumb fucking ass looking at their phone and going, did, did Cam take his page down?

• 31:20Cameron Hanes?

  And it's like, no fuckhead, you're not invited. You can't come to my page anymore because you're too retarded.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  You got uninvited from the party.

• 31:29Cameron Hanes?

  God. Yeah. So just to catch everybody up to speed.

• 31:33Speaker 02

  Right.

• 31:34Cameron Hanes?

  Jelly Roll went on his first elk hunt. He's had a rough year, lots of personal issues. So then I have to read, after we're celebrating Jelly's success, I have to read all these fricking psychos because he went on, part of it is he wanna, everybody hates Jimmy Kimmel. Every conservative. Okay, I get it. Whatever. He said, said some shit. It's late night TV. Who gives a fuck?

• 31:59Cameron Hanes?

  But he go, he hosts Jimmy Kimmel for a week. So it's already like, it'd be like hosting The View, I guess.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:06Cameron Hanes?

  All conservatives hate The View and hate all those bitches. I get it. So if you host it, you're sort of associated with it a little bit, I guess.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Right.

• 32:16Cameron Hanes?

  So Jelly Roll goes on Jimmy Kimmel to host and he actually, I think, does a good job. He's fucking, he's good.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he's good at delivering whatever. It was jokes. We're talking jokes. So for 50 years, people have joked on late night TV about politics, about celebrities, about presidents. It's, it's the formula.

• 32:38Speaker 02

  Everything. Yeah.

• 32:39Cameron Hanes?

  It's the formula. It's what late night TV is. Johnny Carson joked about fucking presidents.

• 32:47Cameron Hanes?

  But if Jelly Roll says anything about Trump, cancel him. He's a, he's woke? Oh no, I, I'm woke too now, apparently.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  Oh yeah.

• 32:57Cameron Hanes?

  Woke, leftist, um, traitor?

• 33:04Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Have you heard the shit Trump has said about people?

• 33:10Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, not even, but they're not even jokes?

• 33:12Speaker 02

  No.

• 33:12Cameron Hanes?

  Jelly Roll was actually joking about, hey, if you lose weight, you can see your dick, right? Like if you have a big belly, you can't see it. That's, it's a joke, right?

• 33:21Speaker 02

  I think so. Pretty funny.

• 33:23Cameron Hanes?

  But you can't say it.

• 33:25Speaker 02

  And isn't that making fun of himself first?

• 33:29Cameron Hanes?

  He did. He's self depreciating.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 33:31Cameron Hanes?

  And all he said is like politicians on both sides are full of shit, which is somebody going to argue with that?

• 33:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. Is that what you guys are arguing about?

• 33:38Cameron Hanes?

  So what, what are you worked up about?

• 33:40Speaker 02

  Why don't you pull your fucking heads out of your asses and look around? If you still think that there's some side that is for you. Oh boy.

• 33:49Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 33:50Speaker 02

  You're a lost cause.

• 33:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Go, go buy, go get gas.

• 33:54Speaker 02

  How's that going for you?

• 33:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  Trump's the best president we've ever had.

• 33:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Gas prices are going to be $2 a gallon.

• 34:00Speaker 02

  Right. So.

• 34:01Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, no, energy, electricity is going to be cut in half.

• 34:05Speaker 02

  And didn't we take out Iran's nuclear threat?

• 34:10Cameron Hanes?

  I actually, I don't give a fuck if they have a nuclear weapon. I want cheap gas.

• 34:17Cameron Hanes?

  And they never had a nuclear weapon anyway.

• 34:20Speaker 02

  But we're still there, but that was the reason we were there. Okay. I just wanted to make sure.

• 34:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, okay.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  Makes sense.

• 34:25Cameron Hanes?

  Gotcha. Gotcha. Oh, is this straight? It's still not open, right? But at least Logan and Jake Paul went to talk to the.

• 34:33Speaker 02

  The Pentagon. Yeah.

• 34:35Cameron Hanes?

  So we're, we are kicking ass as a country right now.

• 34:39Speaker 02

  You know, our country is doing well when the, the Paul brothers step up for a speech. Holy shit.

• 34:46Cameron Hanes?

  This is, so, you know, Jake and Logan, they've kicked ass, dude. They've fucking made a br, I don't, I don't blame them at all. I don't, I don't blame, all I'm saying is, so here's, here's what this administration is doing. They're relying on influencers to trick, sway, influence. I mean, they're influencers, so influence the public.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:12Cameron Hanes?

  Right? So I mean, it's, I mean, it's a pretty obvious tactic. Hey, these guys reach a lot of people. Let's get them on our side. I get it. Smart.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  We lost Jelly Roll. Time to get them.

• 35:25Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, it's just such a weird time in pol, in, in our country. I just don't, I, I can't.

• 35:34Cameron Hanes?

  Oh my goodness. It's, I don't know. It's crazy.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is. I did, I just want to say, I want to reiterate because that post you made, I went through, made the mistake. As Joe started calling me Captain Comments.

• 35:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 35:49Speaker 02

  I read the comments and people kept saying like, wild bull, uh, chain him up, go get Jelly Roll and let him shoot him.

• 36:00Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I explained free range wild, didn't I? In the caption?

• 36:09Speaker 02

  Here's what pisses me off is he hiked and he's worked his ass off to be able to hike. And I was with him when he packed out the head and

• 36:21Speaker 02

  there's no chance he's able to do that years ago.

• 36:24Cameron Hanes?

  Well, and also it's not high fence. It's not, no elk is chained up. It's a hundred percent wild. They can go fucking anywhere. They can go on some other property. They can go a hundred miles if they want to.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:38Cameron Hanes?

  There's nothing stopping them. Wild as hell. Lions up there, bears up there. It's wild country. It's called wild country out adventures.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  And it's steep and it's hard hiking and they, that bull was below him. You ended up spotting it. It pisses me off so bad for people just discredit what he did just because they can't fucking go get it done themselves.

• 37:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And listen, I understand that where we're hunting is better than public land.

• 37:07Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 37:08Cameron Hanes?

  I got it. It's better. That does not diminish what he did.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:13Cameron Hanes?

  He got his first bull and you know, there's people that go there that don't kill, that don't get opportunities that, you know, I had two hunt winners. Oh, people say something like, why don't you take regular people instead of celebrities? It's like, hey, I fucking give away so many hunts to regular people. In fact, two regular people went to the exact same place and didn't kill.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:35Cameron Hanes?

  So I give away bear hunts, give away, uh, bear hunts to the rivets. I've given away grizzly hunts. Giving away two premium elk hunts where Jelly Roll just killed. So don't tell me, why don't you take a regular person? I do it every year.

• 37:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:53Cameron Hanes?

  But so anyway, not, it's not a tame elk. It's not in a fence. It's as wild as it gets. It's not public. It's private. So yes, Jelly Roll still earned that bull.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:09Cameron Hanes?

  And deserves credit for it and doesn't deserve all this fucking dumbass hate.

• 38:13Speaker 02

  I just hate, I hate the idea of him being so excited about something and then fucking for some reason, and I know he's, you know, he's in the public eye. So he doesn't, this shit doesn't bother him, but it would bother me if I was super excited about something and I saw some comment from some dumb fuck. And now all of a sudden I feel like I shouldn't be proud of this accomplishment.

• 38:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's terrible. It's like, that's what I hate about social media.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:35Cameron Hanes?

  It's, I don't know, just how everybody, it's just so easy just to sling hate and nastiness. And it's just like, is this how you live your life? Is, I mean, how fulfilling is this?

• 38:51Speaker 02

  I mean, I promise you a lot of those people aren't feeling fulfilled.

• 38:54Cameron Hanes?

  Can you be happy for somebody? And can you look at like, oh, he said a joke about the president as a joke? Can you look at that? Do you have, do you have any ability to look beyond like, those words? I don't like what he said.

• 39:08Speaker 02

  But by the way, I thought the right was so against cancel culture and

• 39:13Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 39:14Speaker 02

  Cancel culture was woke. I thought.

• 39:16Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, for sure.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  Right. Okay. So just wanted to make sure that you guys are.

• 39:21Cameron Hanes?

  It's, I'm on the right. And I'm like, yeah, I thought we weren't with words, like words, freedom of speech. That's fine, right? I thought we were celebrating freedom of speech. I thought it's okay. Like if you don't agree with it, that's okay. You can, you have the right to say that.

• 39:41Speaker 02

  That's what America's built on.

• 39:42Cameron Hanes?

  Right. And so, but now you talk about a Republican president, you're canceled.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:50Cameron Hanes?

  From the right. It's like, what the fuck are you guys doing?

• 39:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:53Cameron Hanes?

  Do you realize? You are what you talk about, like what you hate on, but the left, you are worse.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  It's, it's a classic. And I'm sure people get their panties in a wad about this too. So you know what? Get those panties in a wad, take a picture, send it to.

• 40:12Cameron Hanes?

  DM baby.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  DM those wadded up panties, baby.

• 40:16Cameron Hanes?

  My goodness.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Come on. Uh, okay.

• 40:19Cameron Hanes?

  What if, but what about Sage's leopard thong that he races in?

• 40:25Speaker 02

  The lucky, his lucky race thong?

• 40:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Does those get watered up? Because pretty smart.

• 40:30Speaker 02

  And stuffed into his mouth.

• 40:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that is actually not all love. You can fuck off.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  He's been a bad boy.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  Let's just shut that pretty mouth.

• 40:55Cameron Hanes?

  But is it pretty? Or is it just weird looking?

• 41:00Speaker 02

  Okay, that's bullying.

• 41:02Cameron Hanes?

  It's true.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  And we're changed. So, ooh, yeah, sorry. That all, that is what old us would have said. So.

• 41:09Cameron Hanes?

  All that up until right now. So the last 40 minutes.

• 41:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yep.

• 41:13Cameron Hanes?

  Are what the previous versions of us would have said.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:17Cameron Hanes?

  That from here on is what the, what we say.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, I did want to mention, um, that I did a solo podcast and all of your guys' comments hurt my feelings.

• 41:31Cameron Hanes?

  What, what I said is like, we'll never know. Well, I mean, we won't know how good or terrible you did until the second one.

• 41:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:39Cameron Hanes?

  Cause the first one is just like, like watching a car wreck.

• 41:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 41:42Cameron Hanes?

  And you're just like, holy shit. Did you see that? Did you hear what that dumb fuck said? Yeah. Oh, I'll go listen. Oh yeah. That was terrible. But when it's in the next one, they're like, yeah, we've already been through that. It's, we know how to, how the story ends.

• 41:56Speaker 02

  So we'll see.

• 41:57Cameron Hanes?

  So it's like, I don't know how many downloads we got on that one, but the next one would be the, that, that would.

• 42:03Speaker 02

  Well, we're going to find out, baby.

• 42:05Cameron Hanes?

  That would be the, uh, what would that be? The, I don't even know.

• 42:09Speaker 02

  Epilogue.

• 42:13Cameron Hanes?

  That'd be the real.

• 42:15Speaker 02

  Camera 12?

• 42:17Cameron Hanes?

  Litmus test.

• 42:18Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 42:18Cameron Hanes?

  Litmus test right here. You can shove this ketone right up your ass with your litmus test.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  Shove this right up your tight litmus test.

• 42:30Cameron Hanes?

  God, I don't know. Is this alcoholic?

• 42:34Speaker 02

  Okay. Um, other than that,

• 42:40Speaker 02

  Bentley giveaway. We're closing in.

• 42:43Cameron Hanes?

  I know. Yeah. I saw people, I'm unfollowing you cause of Bentley. It's like, what? I'm giving away, okay. Oh shit. I got a comment from somebody.

• 42:57Speaker 02

  Okay, here we go.

• 42:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. That says, I'm going to bankrupt somebody by them winning this car. So let me, this.

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Let's do the math.

• 43:07Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Yeah. Let's do the math. So say the car, so it's probably worth, I mean, I know what I paid 100, so, so say a hundred and 60,000.

• 43:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 43:16Cameron Hanes?

  A hundred and 60,000. Okay. Got it?

• 43:18Speaker 02

  Yes. Plus.

• 43:19Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 43:21Cameron Hanes?

  You win the car. You get a hundred and 60,000 dollar car.

• 43:25Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 43:25Cameron Hanes?

  Plus 10,000 in cash.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  Plus 10,000.

• 43:28Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  170,000.

• 43:30Cameron Hanes?

  So it said, with taxes and insurance, whoever wins it is going to go bankrupt. Okay. So if you get a hundred and 60,000 dollar car and 10,000 cash, so you got a hundred and 70,000 dollars in cash.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 43:47Cameron Hanes?

  Basically. If you have to pay taxes on that.

• 43:52Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 43:52Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. That would be say, even say worst case, say 40%, say 30%, okay? Okay. So 30% off a hundred and 70.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  51.

• 44:05Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. So we're down to 119.

• 44:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:09Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 44:11Cameron Hanes?

  If

• 44:14Cameron Hanes?

  you sell the car. Okay. For, and you got 170,000.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  Yes. Okay.

• 44:21Cameron Hanes?

  And you have to pay taxes.

• 44:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:22Cameron Hanes?

  Your net, your net, uh, um, benefit or your net, what is it?

• 44:30Speaker 02

  Well, it wouldn't be net.

• 44:31Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 44:32Speaker 02

  It would be.

• 44:32Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, we net after the, after you pay the taxes.

• 44:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:35Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. It's a hundred and 19. Is that what it was?

• 44:38Speaker 02

  Profit.

• 44:38Cameron Hanes?

  Profit.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  119,000.

• 44:41Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. So you have a hundred and 19 and you sold the car and you paid the taxes and you got a hundred and 19,000 dollars.

• 44:48Cameron Hanes?

  Do you have to pay insurance on the car still? But, cause you sold it.

• 44:52Speaker 02

  Let me think how that works.

• 44:53Cameron Hanes?

  For 160.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  I gotta call my.

• 44:55Cameron Hanes?

  And you, you got the 10,000.

• 44:57Speaker 02

  No, we don't.

• 44:58Cameron Hanes?

  You don't?

• 44:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:59Cameron Hanes?

  So you, so we have a hundred and 19,000 gross profit.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:07Cameron Hanes?

  I am, I am fucking retarded. So that's why you know, none of this shit makes sense. So Finn, you can just relax.

• 45:15Cameron Hanes?

  So 119,000 net profit and you don't have to pay insurance and you've already paid the taxes.

• 45:22Speaker 02

  So 119 plus minus net gross profit equals.

• 45:28Cameron Hanes?

  Well, 119. Okay.

• 45:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:31Cameron Hanes?

  All right. So is, would you, if you have a hundred and 19,000 dollars in cash.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:37Cameron Hanes?

  Is, are, are you, you're bankrupt?

• 45:39Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 45:40Cameron Hanes?

  Oh.

• 45:41Speaker 02

  That's how it works.

• 45:41Cameron Hanes?

  Well shit, I guess he's right.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:43Cameron Hanes?

  I, I thought bankrupt meant you had no money and couldn't pay your bills and your assets were outweighed by your, by your fucking debt.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  No, that's what you would think.

• 45:54Cameron Hanes?

  So bankrupt is actually in the black, 119,000 is the definition of bankrupt.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 46:03Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, okay. Well, you are going to go back. If you win this car, you're only going to have a hundred and 19,000 dollars in cash after all this. So I guess you're bankrupt.

• 46:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:13Cameron Hanes?

  It says.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  All right. It says that in section one, clause A.

• 46:19Speaker 02

  Uh, what's another word for it?

• 46:23Cameron Hanes?

  Uh, segment.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  Article.

• 46:25Cameron Hanes?

  Article.

• 46:25Speaker 02

  Article three.

• 46:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 46:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:27Cameron Hanes?

  So I don't, I guess I don't unders- I guess I'm not good with finances.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're not good with math.

• 46:34Cameron Hanes?

  Not good with math. So, but anyway, if you want to go bankrupt, we're giving, we're giving this thing away.

• 46:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:43Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't know. I told him to give it away. I already had a deer in the trunk, so I'm good. Fucking, that's all I wanted to do. So you can, so I want, I can't wait for somebody to win it. And now, listen, car is amazing to drive. I understand probably most people aren't going to keep a Bentley.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 46:59Cameron Hanes?

  But like I told that guy bitching about like you're, you're going to make people go bankrupt. I'm like, it's free money. You're getting free a hundred and some thousand dollars of free money.

• 47:11Speaker 02

  Oh, baby has to go through the work of selling it.

• 47:14Cameron Hanes?

  Well, that's hard. That's really, that's really hard. Sell it, sell it for a hundred and thirty and sell it like tomorrow.

• 47:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:22Cameron Hanes?

  It's only got like sixteen thousand miles. It's brand new.

• 47:25Speaker 02

  You still get ninety thousand. You get more. Get a hundred.

• 47:29Cameron Hanes?

  I don't. Yeah. So anyway, uh, yeah. Good luck on the Bentley.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  No one's going bankrupt, just so you guys know.

• 47:37Cameron Hanes?

  Just so you know, this, that's, it is not possible to go bankrupt by winning a free car.

• 47:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, unless you're an idiot. I mean, if you won the car and kept it and you couldn't pay the taxes and then you had to pay the tax. No, they just.

• 47:52Cameron Hanes?

  You just sell the car.

• 47:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, they would just, they just take the Bentley.

• 47:56Cameron Hanes?

  Because here's, here's how it works. I don't know if you understand this. The taxes you have to pay are usually not more than the value of said item.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 48:05Cameron Hanes?

  So it's not like the car's a hundred and sixty thousand and you have to pay five hundred thousand in taxes.

• 48:10Speaker 02

  Wait, is that how percentages work?

• 48:13Cameron Hanes?

  So you don't have to pay more than the value of the item.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  A lot of people don't know that, that Bentleys are five hundred thousand in taxes.

• 48:21Cameron Hanes?

  God. Yeah. I mean, so, and

• 48:27Cameron Hanes?

  do I get a pass because I have to deal with people like that for, for losing my shit sometimes?

• 48:33Speaker 02

  I think so. Yeah.

• 48:35Cameron Hanes?

  I should get a, a mulligan. Shouldn't I?

• 48:37Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. A mulligan. That's a great word.

• 48:42Cameron Hanes?

  You think I came up with mulligan on my own? Fucking ketone. Mulligan your ass.

• 48:54Cameron Hanes?

  Clip it.

• 48:55Speaker 02

  Clip, clip it. That should be the whole trailer for Shit Talkers.

• 48:59Cameron Hanes?

  All I know is they used to be a sponsor until this goes out.

• 49:03Speaker 02

  I think this is the best advertisements they've ever had.

• 49:06Cameron Hanes?

  Dude, the words we came up with, if that doesn't prove the power of ketone IQ.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  Here's one for you. And this just popped into my head. Ubiquitous.

• 49:17Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I'd like to see you fit these, you book.

• 49:21Speaker 02

  You big wadis.

• 49:25Cameron Hanes?

  In your mouth.

• 49:32Cameron Hanes?

  God, I just thought of, what was that joke I saw, I read?

• 49:38Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I don't even know. I found a good page. I put up a hat about something, but it was another one that says, make

• 49:47Cameron Hanes?

  something like big milker tits grad- or I didn't even know what it was, but I put up, I put up something pretty funny. I don't, let me see what it was. This, this place.

• 50:06Cameron Hanes?

  Oh shit, we got Pedro just texted me. Oh, fuck, we gotta talk about, uh, Dowdle coming on. Speaking of ultra shit, I almost forgot.

• 50:16Cameron Hanes?

  Now Dowdle, Mark Dowdle is a fucking real one. What? Now, okay. Oh, that, no, it's this one. The blood in my boner is, the blood in your boner has been in your heart and that's beautiful. And that was.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  I already saw that one.

• 50:31Cameron Hanes?

  I know. And it is beautiful. I already said it. But no, this other one. You're not autistic. You just work from home and it's making you weird. It's a good hat. Oh, this is, this is a good one here. Stop sexualizing giant jiggley slobberknocker milk truck tits.

• 50:52Cameron Hanes?

  Look at this hat.

• 50:56Cameron Hanes?

  Stop sexualizing them. Yes, I agree. Slobberknockers.

• 51:12Cameron Hanes?

  God, I sound like I've smoked fucking four packs of Pall Malls my entire life.

• 51:26Cameron Hanes?

  Give me a beer and my cigarettes, you piece of shit.

• 51:32Cameron Hanes?

  That's gonna be me after I lose all my thoughts.

• 51:47Speaker 02

  I wish we could smoke in here.

• 51:50Cameron Hanes?

  We can, dude. I don't give a fuck. I need a, I do need a cigarette.

• 51:55Speaker 02

  We need cigarettes and, and wife beaters.

• 51:58Cameron Hanes?

  No, what I need to calm this cough down, I need a cigarette.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, menthol.

• 52:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, just.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 52:03Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 52:04Speaker 02

  We do have to talk about Dowdle.

• 52:06Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I know. And Kim's backyard ultra is coming. What's that called?

• 52:11Speaker 02

  Last Soul.

• 52:12Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So it's coming to America.

• 52:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. So they're doing three qualifier races. The top fifteen from each of those plus the top five women go to the final in Germany again.

• 52:23Cameron Hanes?

  That's sick. And Kim Gottwald, right?

• 52:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:27Cameron Hanes?

  Such a badass. And his buddy Alex, I can't remember his last name, but love those guys. Love their attitude. Guaranteed, they won't give a fuck about BPC. So I love that.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  Yep. I'd like that.

• 52:40Cameron Hanes?

  Even though, yeah, anyway. Um, but Dowdle, yeah, he, um, yeah, he's a machine.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, animal. And he's coming on.

• 52:51Cameron Hanes?

  I know. So, and soon.

• 52:54Speaker 02

  Yes, very soon.

• 52:55Cameron Hanes?

  I gotta go get my ass kicked to one more state for Elk.

• 52:58Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 52:59Cameron Hanes?

  And then, uh, then we're back for podcast. Um, I got Dowdle. I got a, I don't know if Gable Stevenson's coming on. I hope he does. He had, he had a rough fight. Um, Olympic gold medalist. Um.

• 53:12Speaker 02

  If we're going to talk about UFC, that's on my list. Cheeto.

• 53:14Cameron Hanes?

  Oh.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  Friend of the show with a W.

• 53:17Cameron Hanes?

  Fuck, Cheeto looked good, dude. You know, he got a new coach.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  Oh, he did?

• 53:21Cameron Hanes?

  Did you know that?

• 53:22Speaker 02

  I didn't know that.

• 53:23Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he changed coaches and he looked fucking good.

• 53:26Speaker 02

  Really good.

• 53:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So I was super pumped. I texted him, told him, great job.

• 53:30Speaker 02

  Cause I know, you know, last couple of fights, we've had to come on here and say friend of the show. We thought he got robbed.

• 53:35Cameron Hanes?

  I thought a couple he did, but he lost four in a row, which, you know, for a fighter, you know, we're talking about like a hunt. When it doesn't go your way and you're like, you know, it's hard to deal with failure.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:49Cameron Hanes?

  Failing on the biggest stage like that in front of millions, God, that sucked. Especially when you think you did enough to win.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:59Cameron Hanes?

  But this one, he, he put it on him, uh, got the finish.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:03Cameron Hanes?

  And just looked good. So happy.

• 54:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. You can't dispute that. It's not like it was a, you know, knocked him out. Well, TKO, right? So.

• 54:12Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So anyway, Mark, Mark, uh, Mark's coming. Cheeto, congratulations. Mark is one of the great ones in ultra or endurance right now. Built for backyard ultras, just got this mental strength and just ability to push and never seem phased. I don't know how, so I'm excited to find out about that, but.

• 54:32Speaker 02

  So we'll learn about that and his love for BB.

• 54:36Cameron Hanes?

  I'm not saying shit, cause I'll get a fucking nuke right in here.

• 54:40Speaker 02

  Drop right down to the middle of the table.

• 54:42Cameron Hanes?

  A nuke to the dome.

• 54:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Uh, my mouth has already got me in plenty of trouble.

• 54:52Speaker 02

  My mouth has gotten me out of trouble.

• 54:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's true. See, that's what came in handy.

• 54:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:58Cameron Hanes?

  Mouth in your ass.

• 55:03Cameron Hanes?

  God. Okay.

• 55:05Speaker 02

  I think that's it.

• 55:06Cameron Hanes?

  All right. Well, that's a wrap. Was this, you said thirty-five. I thought I said thirty-four.

• 55:11Speaker 02

  It's thirty-four. I just didn't change this.

• 55:13Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, okay. Thank you for tuning into Shit Talkers Weekly thirty-four. We'll be back on our regular schedule.

• 55:20Cameron Hanes?

  Regular schedule pretty soon. Um, and also I'm gonna take a couple of people deer hunting like I always do in Oregon. I pay for everything. I just take you to kill a, a blacktail buck. Who's it gonna be?

• 55:34Speaker 02

  It better be some regular guy.

• 55:37Cameron Hanes?

  Better be, it better be some bum under the bridge.

• 55:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, that's what we should do. I bet you that video would actually.

• 55:44Speaker 02

  Got some bum?

• 55:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. He's, hasn't had anything go his way his entire life.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  Where am I?

• 55:50Cameron Hanes?

  Shoot, shoot that way. Yeah.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  Um, what was I gonna say? Oh, and yeah, I'm gonna do another solo while you're gone.

• 55:59Cameron Hanes?

  Nice.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  Shoot up.

• 56:01Cameron Hanes?

  What's the topic?

• 56:03Speaker 02

  Big slobberknocker.

• 56:04Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah. Stop sexualizing them.

• 56:07Speaker 02

  That's what it's about.

• 56:08Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. All right. It'll be called Slobberknocker Weekly.

• 56:14Cameron Hanes?

  That's our new show.

• 56:17Cameron Hanes?

  All right, guys. Keep hammering.

• 56:22Cameron Hanes?

  What the fuck was that? Does a raccoon in your throat?

• 56:30Cameron Hanes?

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• 57:09Cameron Hanes?

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• 57:50Cameron Hanes?

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