The Only Way To Inspire Change in Your Friends And Family

Do you find yourself trying to convince your friends and family to change, but nothing seems to work? It’s important for us to understand how the process of change works within us and others so we can become more effective in our approach. In this episode you'll learn what the most successful people have in common, and why the action of unlearning is crucial to your transformation. Let's get rid of all the bad lessons you learned and replace them today. Text Jay Shetty 310-997-4177 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Jay Shetty?

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• 0:45Jay Shetty?

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• 1:28Jay Shetty?

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• 2:12Jay Shetty?

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• 2:57Jay Shetty?

  Hey, everyone. Welcome back to On Purpose. Thank you so much for being here. By the way, I just wanted to let you know, we are at 9,800 reviews on the podcast. It would mean so much to me if we can get to 10,000 by the end of this week. It would be amazing because I love reading them. I love engaging with them. I love seeing the incredible, meaningful lessons and nuggets of wisdom that you're all gaining from these episodes. And when you leave a review, it means so much to me, but it means so much to new listeners. And we are connecting with new listeners every single week. Like, I know that there are new people downloading the podcast from different countries every single week. And I just want to say a huge thank you to each and every one of you that has subscribed. If you haven't, make sure you do. And I want to say thank you to each of you that has left a review.

• 3:42Jay Shetty?

  If you haven't, it would mean the world to me if you take two minutes. Actually, it would take 20 seconds to just leave a review. It would be amazing. Now, today's episode is another behind the scenes. And I'm excited for this because I know you've been loving these almost windows into my life Q and As with people, real people at events, and often asking the questions that you really want. And that's what I love about people asking questions at events because when you ask a question, you don't just help yourself, you help another 100,000 million people. Because there are another 100,000 million people

• 4:18Jay Shetty?

  Thinking the exact same thing as you. So, anyone who asks a question, I'm so grateful to each and every one of you. And today's episode is a behind the scenes from an event that I did at Mindvalley. And many of you know I'm friends with Vishen Lakiani, who's the CEO and founder of Mindvalley. A really good friend, a really cool guy, and his team are awesome. I absolutely love Miriam and Agatha and Kadi, they're unbelievable. And I was invited to speak at this event in L.A. Where they had a Q and A with their audience. And we just literally took questions from everyone. The questions were amazing. There were questions about family and, you know, being in relationships where someone isn't spiritual or someone isn't about personal growth and how you deal with that.

• 5:00Jay Shetty?

  There were questions about how we can go deeper in our own practices and habits. There were questions about my personal life and things that I love and I'm fascinated by. So I can't wait for you to hear this podcast. Here we go.

• 5:18Speaker 02

  Alrighty, so Jay Shetty, as you know, out of some 200 speakers last year in Mindvalley, was awarded, based on audience data, as the best speaker at Mindvalley across all seminars, all festivals, all events for the entire year 2018. But what is also really wonderful to say about Jay is that in today's world, and this is something that lights me up. In today's world, the number one personality on Facebook is not a Kardashian

• 5:49Speaker 02

  or a politician. It is Jay Shetty, a monk.

• 5:56Speaker 02

  A monk, former monk, who makes wisdom go viral. Jay Shetty's videos have been viewed four billion times, four billion times, right? But, and this is since he started in 2016, January 2016. But here's the crazy thing.

• 6:19Speaker 02

  Three billion of that four billion happened in just the last 12 months. And he, his growth is exponential and growing. And he, perhaps more than, than almost anyone else I, I personally know, is helping create a world where wisdom becomes viral and something that you really want to consume. Jay, welcome to Mindvalley again.

• 6:44Jay Shetty?

  Thank you, Vishen. Thank you so much. Thank you to all of you. I'm so grateful. Thank you.

• 6:50Jay Shetty?

  I'm so grateful in touch to be here. Thank you for the opportunity, Vishen, and thank you to all of you for being here as well. Thank you for being here when you could be anywhere in the world. You chose to be sitting on that seat.

• 7:01Speaker 02

  So, let's start with the opening question, Jay.

• 7:03Jay Shetty?

  Sure.

• 7:04Speaker 02

  You learn so much, and you just got back from meditating in India in an ashram. You know, you're constantly evolving yourself. What would be some words of advice you would give to the people in this room?

• 7:15Jay Shetty?

  That's a big question.

• 7:18Jay Shetty?

  So, I take out 21 to 30 days every year to go and live back with the monks where I used to live in India. So, I lived as a monk for three years. And every day I've made it a priority to continue my meditation practice, which is currently two hours a day. It's been that way for the last 13 years. It's been the bedrock and foundation of my life. So, to that very big question that Vishen asked me, my first piece of advice would be finding your daily rituals, finding your daily habits, finding your practices that act as the foundation, because we're living in such busy, hectic, crazy times. How many of you know that you have a schedule and still half of the things don't happen on that schedule? Right? Anyone ever been in that position?

• 8:03Jay Shetty?

  Or how many of you go through that process where you start watching something really educational on YouTube? And then two videos later, you're watching something about Justin Bieber's mom, right? And it's like, and then, and then you're like, how did I, how did I get there? Like, how did, how did that happen? And, and you end up getting lost in this world. And so, whether it's in a small way of getting lost through the content, you know, rabbit hole, or whether it's getting lost by getting distracted from what's really meaningful to you. For me, refining my intentions on a daily basis is one of my favorite, favorite habits. And so, what I do every day is I'll look at the plethora of options that I have available, all of the things, whether it's deals, ideas, thoughts, projects, offers, whatever it is.

• 8:48Jay Shetty?

  And on top of all of them, I'll write down why I would do that. And if the reason is often ego, pride, envy, competition, jealousy, and sometimes it's compassion, love, joy, passion, purpose, meaning, fulfillment. And so what I like to do is, I like to refine my intentions, which I class as seeds and weeds every day. So I wanna plant more seeds in the garden of my life. Seeds are things that are like compassion, love, purpose, fulfillment, meaning, joy, service. And weeds are when we do things out of ego, envy, competition.

• 9:32Jay Shetty?

  And so every day, I'm plucking out the weeds out of my life, and I'm trying to plant more seeds. How many of you wanna be gardeners with me? Yeah? And I do that every day because it's so easy for me to confuse the weeds as seeds.

• 9:50Jay Shetty?

  It's so often that I've let ego grow so strong inside of me, and it took me forever to notice that was a weed, so I have to do it every day. So that's one of my biggest pieces of advice, I do it every single day. It's made a huge difference in making sure I make the right choices, the right decisions with people, places, and projects that I'm involved in. And when you refine that intention, and it gets purer and purer and purer, not that we're ever fully pure, but it gets purer and purer and purer, you'll just see magic happen around you. So many things will open up, things that you never imagined. I hope that answers your question, but...

• 10:20Speaker 02

  It does, and it now just opens up so many other questions. You said, you get, you try to get your intention purer and purer. And it sounds to me like what you're saying is you're going for the feeling that it's giving you, joy, bliss, passion, right?

• 10:36Speaker 02

  How far ahead are you looking? Are you looking at your intentions for a day, for a week, for a month, for a year?

• 10:41Jay Shetty?

  I look at intentions from places that I go, people that I spend time with and projects that I'm involved in. So in every one of those areas, and that includes everything from what I'm doing right now by being here, so I'm with all of you. So I planted a seed of an intention that I wanted to come here to be of service to all of you, all the way through to what do I want to be doing in 12 months? I usually don't make plans for longer than 12 months because the world changes so fast and everything else, so that's usually as far ahead I think of. But, you know, my vision...

• 11:11Speaker 02

  Do you ever get intentions like binge-watch Game of Thrones for 24 hours straight? And then judge yourself for having that intention?

• 11:19Jay Shetty?

  So I was with someone that I was coaching yesterday, and they said to me, says, "Jay, be real with me." Right? You know, everyone always likes something like, "Be real with me." Like, don't give me the monk answer, you know? It's something my sister always says to me, "Don't go monk on me, Jay Shetty." Like, you know, I don't want to hear another video. My wife and my sister do that often to me. So someone asked me yesterday, like, "Be real with me." Like, what do you do when you just want to, you know, let go? So the honest answer is, I grew up in London. I'm a huge soccer fan, or real football, and...

• 11:50Speaker 02

  Yes! Finally, someone says it on our stage. I've never understood you Americans. It's not...

• 11:58Jay Shetty?

  I absolutely love football, and my favorite thing to do is play Playstation with my buddies and play FIFA. I can do that for hours and hours and hours, and I'm pretty good too. So if anyone wants to play me a game of FIFA, I'm always up. But that's, yeah, I do, I do get that, and that's probably one of the... There's two things I love in that sort of, in that category. It's playing Playstation, playing FIFA. And the second is movies. I'm a huge fan of movies. I am a huge fan of Christopher Nolan specifically because of the stories that he writes and the movies he brings to life. So I love movies that help me learn and have messages inside them because I believe that movies have the power to shift culture and shift conversation. So I'm fascinated by the power of media and movies.

• 12:39Jay Shetty?

  So I love consuming that content because it gives me more ideas and inspiration. And I truly believe that we're defined by the stories we tell ourselves. So when we see new stories through movies and media, I see changes in culture happening. FIFA, I can't justify, so that I just have to, that I just have to take.

• 12:58Speaker 02

  So we want to keep the questions spiritual and deep, but also real.

• 13:03Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, sure.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  I like, like you just insulted Americans and their description of football as football.

• 13:11Jay Shetty?

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• 15:32Speaker 02

  You say you spend 28 days of the year in an ashram in India?

• 15:35Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 15:35Speaker 02

  Okay, and you're like one of the most like, you're becoming one of the most famous teachers on the planet. What do you do with that ashram? Do you check Facebook or Instagram while you're there?

• 15:48Jay Shetty?

  Good question. So, I read an incredible study that changed the way I create and think. And it said that the human mind can't be logical and creative at the same time. How many of you have ever walked from a highly creative brainstorm where you were fueled with passion and then had to talk about numbers and business and, right? It's tough, right? Anyone ever found that quite difficult? It's quite challenging and the mind's like trying to run from one side of the brain to the other side of the brain. So what I do is I create in depth. So I go really deep into my creation and then I go really deep into everything else that I have to do. So before I went to India, I created my content in advance. And so when I was in India, I was able to really switch off. So the beauty of being able to be in India for 21 or 30 days, or wherever I am in the

• 16:33Jay Shetty?

  world for that matter, I'm then not having to think of creativity as stress or pressure. I'm able to do creativity as a form of passion and service. And so when I was in India, I was able to not look at Instagram. I was able to not look at Facebook. I was able to completely switch off for 21 days when I was there earlier in January. And I started my year in the way I wanted to. So I was meditating for eight hours a day. I was spending time with my teachers who are mind-blowing and incredible and trying to learn from them and taking knowledge and wisdom from them. And continuously praying to be of more service this year and make a difference this year. So that's how I chose to spend my January. And I had so many people saying to me, they were just like, Jay, it's January. Things are going well in your career. How can you take 21 days off? Right, that pressure, that noise. I'm like, things are going good for you.

• 17:17Jay Shetty?

  How can you take time off? I was like, things are going good because I'm doing this. All right, like, you know, I had one of my teachers that has kept saying to me for years, he goes, if you want to move three steps forward, you have to go three steps deep. And so if I'm not going forward, I know it's because I haven't gone deep. So for me, that's a big priority for me and that's what I try and do. And I'm, I try and do that every day, but I also believe in immersive experiences. So a lot of us today, we live in this world, which is like 10 minutes a day. Do it for 10 minutes a day, everything will be great. And that is great, there's nothing wrong with that. But imagine you spent with a boy or a girl, your partner, whoever it was, someone that you just started dating. Imagine you spent 10 minutes a day with them. How long would it take you to figure out whether you wanted to fall in love with them or not?

• 18:01Jay Shetty?

  Probably a long time. And so when you go immersive, if you spend a weekend away with someone, you know whether you like them or not. And meditation, mindfulness, all these habits are the same. The more you immerse yourself, the more you get an experience that stays with you, the more that you can live with that experience and keep going back to it for 10 minutes a day. So I really believe in immersive experiences. I love the 10-minute-a-day advice, but I also deeply believe in having a deep immersive, absorbed experience that completely takes over your whole body, mind, and soul. And then you're able to carry that forever. So I try and do that once a year.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  That's amazing. Beautifully said.

• 18:41Jay Shetty?

  Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  So, so you're a monk?

• 18:47Jay Shetty?

  I used to be. I'm married now.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  But you still go back to monctitude, or whatever they call it, like, once a month, once a year, right?

• 18:55Jay Shetty?

  Monk school, yeah.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  Like monk refresher course?

• 18:59Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, the monks are not very good at branding, as you can tell.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  So, so when you're there hanging out with these other monks, do they, like, ask you to teach them how to do Instagram? Like, like, what, how do other monks relate to you when you go back to the ashram?

• 19:14Jay Shetty?

  One of the things I love to be with the monks again is that they don't care.

• 19:21Jay Shetty?

  Like, they have no agenda, they have no desire, they don't want to learn anything about what I'm up to. And, and I love that because I get to switch off from that identity too. And it's beautiful to be able to let go of every identity that you've taken on and then just be. And so when I go there and I'm able to remove any identity that is attached to my ego, any identity that's attached to who I think I've become, et cetera. It's nice to be humbled again. Uh, it's nice to be, it's nice to be not noticed for a particular thing, but be dealt with in a human way and a completely human connection. So, yeah, no, they don't, they don't care about Instagram so much.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  That's amazing. Now, I noticed you have a tattoo on your neck.

• 20:03Jay Shetty?

  I do.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  And I noticed that there's even a Facebook group called "What is Jay Shetty's Tattoo?" I'm serious. There's a Facebook group dedicated to his tattoo. That's how big this guy is getting.

• 20:13Jay Shetty?

  I didn't know that.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  Soon there'll be Facebook groups for your ankles, your left thumb. It's gonna get weird, Jay, deal with fame. But what the hell is that tattoo?

• 20:22Jay Shetty?

  So, yeah, I'm gonna, I'll tell the story about it. I got my first tattoo when I was 16 years old. And I never asked my parents for permission. I went and got it, came home, I was bleeding slightly. And it happened to be on the same day we had family visiting from India. And for anyone who knows anything about Indian families, like, respect to like elders and families, it's important. And those are good values. But I walk in with my neck like half bleeding and I have this tattoo on my family. My mom is just like, oh. Like, you know, she's completely shocked. And my dad's like, cover it up, cover it up. Like, trying to get me a college shirt. Anyway, so I used to be a huge fan of spoken word and rap music going up, growing up. I've always loved language and words. And so I was a huge fan of hip hop and spoken word.

• 21:07Jay Shetty?

  So I have a fist holding a microphone on my neck because it used to be the logo of the Source magazine in the 1990s, which was one of the biggest hip hop magazines of its time. And I remember getting it done at 16 and a lot of people would be like, what's that on your neck? And I'd say, it's a microphone. And they'd be like, oh, cool, what do you do? And I'd say, I do spoken word and rap. And they said, oh, you should perform at our club. So it was my card, it was my, my business card, it was my branding. And, and then I got my next tattoo at 18. So I have, on the back of my neck, I have Dear God in, in calligraphy. And then I have one here, which is a, uh, which is less seen. And I don't think there's a Facebook group about it. But it's a, it's a trouble clef going into a peacock feather. I've always loved the music having spirituality to it. And peacocks are beautiful, beautiful animals

• 21:50Jay Shetty?

  that I got to see a lot and observe a lot when I was in India. So that was inspired by that. So those are my three tattoos. No more, no, none, none others hidden away. I've never been asked about that on stage. You're like, "How useful is this information to anyone?"

• 22:08Jay Shetty?

  Are we at Mindvalley or are we at Tattoo Parlour? I mean, I don't know.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  No, but you know what? It's so nice to get to also learn about the real you. There's so much wisdom from Jay out there. We wanted to bring in some of your realness because I know you as a friend and you're just ethically cool. So, we'd love to take some questions from the audience, okay? Now, here are the rules when we do panels like this. I try to make sure that the question that is asked is a question that is going to serve at least 70% of the people in the room, okay? So if you have a question for Jay, raise your hand and we have Mike runners ready. Let's start with Shaman Durek.

• 22:46Speaker 03

  So, you know, one of the things that I wanted to ask is I want to get your viewpoint on it because in shamanism, we have this viewpoint that spirituality is not separate from life. It means that someone who's spiritual, even if they don't meditate or work with crystals or doing any of these things, it means they're willing to evolve. I want to know what your thought is about that.

• 23:05Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I completely agree. I think that's beautiful and completely aligns with me. I don't think... See, we look at everything about, "Oh, what can I learn?" And actually, half of learning, in my opinion, is really unlearning. Everyone already has the answer inside of them. You're not really learning anything new. You're just trying to get rid of all the bad lessons you learned. And everyone has that. So it's not so much about like, "Oh, is this person going from here to here?" It's not really that. It's like it's someone going from here to here. And for me, one of the ways I've always thought about is you can't take the world further than where you visited internally. So, for me, every person that we're meeting already has that journey right there. And all you're asking them to do is look inwards as opposed to outwards.

• 23:49Jay Shetty?

  So, no, I completely agree with you and I think that's a beautiful point that you've shared. And I think it's something nice for us to know so that we don't judge and label people. We don't walk around and think, "Oh, those are spiritual people. Those are not spiritual people." Because, yeah, we're all. We're all spiritual people. And it's just that some are covered. It's like the sun's always out, but often it's covered with the clouds. Rarely here, a bit more lately. But the sun is always out. It's just get covered by the clouds, and that's us. We've just been covered. And we get covered by those clouds, and they cloud our identity. They cloud our perception. And so all we're doing for ourselves and others is clearing out the clouds. And the more we do that for ourselves, the more we can do it for others. And the more we do it for others, the more we do it for ourselves.

• 24:33Speaker 02

  And is meditation the only process that you use to clear out the clouds? Or is there other things that you explore?

• 24:39Jay Shetty?

  I think meditation today is a tool. And it's a great tool in your toolkit. But it's really about how we're processing the whole time, how we're living the whole time outside of that. And so when I do two hours of meditation a day, my teachers would always say to me, "Well, what are you doing for the other 22 hours you're awake?" Right? That would always be the question. And so I read a study recently that said that men and women were asked either to sit alone with their thoughts for 15 minutes, or if they didn't want to do that, they could give themselves an electric shock. It was a true study. 60% of men chose an electric shock. True story. And 30% of women chose an electric shock.

• 25:23Jay Shetty?

  These are real, normal people. And when they were asked why they did that, they just said, "I don't think I can sit. What am I gonna do for 15 minutes?" And so for me, meditation is an important part of the cloud, but it's also reflection, introspection, journaling, the ability to have a connection that's deeper than you, sitting down with people who can help you move the clouds. Because it's not always you on your own. You need others to come in and help you do that. So it's multiple things. It's multiple things. I think meditation's a key facet of it, but not the be-all and end-all of it.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  So we noticed that you speak a lot about relationships. A large proportion of your videos are on relationships. And I'm just gonna be asked this question. But you did have training as a monk. And normally, when monks give advice on relationship, it's simply two words: "Don't screw."

• 26:11Speaker 02

  Where does that interest in relationships come from?

• 26:15Jay Shetty?

  My fascination comes for relationships from having failed at lots of relationships. So, growing up, I had countless relationships that didn't work out. And I was always trying to learn, like, what does love mean? What is love? What is the ideal relationship? Why didn't that work out with that person, etcetera? So I was constantly reflecting. And then when I became a monk, obviously, I was celibate for three years and didn't have any relationships during that time. And at that time, a lot of people would come and complain to me about their relationships. It's really funny when people do that. It's like, "You're not married, you will know what to do in my life." And I'm like, "No, it doesn't work that way." So, and I was always fascinated by that. I was getting asked so many questions about relationships. And I was like, "Well, I don't have any real-life experience of figuring it out."

• 26:58Jay Shetty?

  So, when I left and when I met my wife, and now that we've been together for six years and married for three years, I was always reflecting on why things do work with us and the parts that we are challenged by. And so for me, it's been a personal journey of growth. And so the videos I've made have been from personal lessons I've learned from helping others, coaching others, and working on my own relationship. And that's the trifecta on all my videos is I listen to someone who shares a challenge with me. So if you ever share a challenge with me, you have to be okay with the fact you may end up as a story in one of my videos. Right? I'm just throwing it out there. The second thing I try and find is I try and find a scientific study to verify what I'm about to say as a solution. And the third thing that I do is I try and find a piece of wisdom

• 27:42Jay Shetty?

  that's thousands of years old that also aligns with that. So for me, that's what I'm always looking for. And that's how I create my content, because that way I can verify it through modern science. It's timeless wisdom that's been true for thousands of years. And at the same time, it's based on a real challenge that we're all going through.

• 27:58Speaker 02

  That's amazing. That's amazing. I love how you just broke that down.

• 28:04Jay Shetty?

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• 28:49Jay Shetty?

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• 29:42Speaker 04

  Mr. President, my company informed me of the explosion on our rig on October 2nd. Causing massive water displacement and triggering a tsunami. They all heap the blame on me.

• 29:51Speaker 05

  Tom Cruise is. Digger got us into this mess, and Digger's gonna dig us up. From the director of Birdman and The Revenant.

• 29:58Speaker 06

  What would happen if I stopped drilling? You're stalled, you're freezing there, that's what.

• 30:03Speaker 05

  With great power comes great deniability.

• 30:06Speaker 06

  I'm not the first then.

• 30:07Speaker 05

  Digger, see the trailer online, only in theaters October 2nd. Rated R, under 17, out of 10 without parent.

• 30:14Jay Shetty?

  Let's take a question from the audience, if you have a question.

• 30:18Speaker 07

  So I have this burning question.

• 30:20Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 30:21Speaker 07

  How do you relate, how have you related to deep spiritual learnings? And at the same time, being happy and content in the material world without going crazy?

• 30:39Jay Shetty?

  Interesting question.

• 30:43Jay Shetty?

  I think that's the point of spiritual training. So it's like when we're immature in our spiritual learning, we're just starting out. When you first learn, everyone remember the first time they learned something? And they're like, "I'm never talking to my family ever again."

• 30:58Jay Shetty?

  Because you learn a little bit, and you go, "Oh my God, I've been doing it all wrong." And now I can't talk to that person, I can't ever go to that event again. And you start making all these big decisions, based on something small that you've learned. And so I think in the beginning of our lives, because to protect ourselves, which is a very normal desire, and very good and very human, we think, "Okay, I need to take care of this, so now I'm going to shut out from all of this." But as we grow, we realize we can give more back. And so one of the ways I've always thought about it is, if you look at the ocean and you see someone drowning, you want to help them. But if you go in too soon, and you're not strong enough, it's likely that you're going to get pulled in.

• 31:42Jay Shetty?

  And at that point, it's easier to shout out to a lifeguard who can come along, who's trained, who's disciplined, who's committed, who can go and make a difference. And so for me in my life, I'm always looking at, if I can't bring someone up, I'm not going to spend time with them if they're going to pull me down. And it's drawing that line for me. So if I've been ever scared about my spiritual, rather than putting them down and going, "Oh, I'm not spending time with them because I'm putting them down." If I can't lift them up, then I'm going to protect myself by not being dragged down. But if I can pull them up, if I can lift them up, then that's when I'm able to go into that space and make an impact and make a difference. And that line has really helped me not go crazy, because now I'm not doing it based on a judgment of them, I'm reflecting on my own abilities and flaws and the difference I can make.

• 32:27Jay Shetty?

  And I'm taking a stance. It's like, someone asked me the other day, "What is a complaint?" And we were talking about litter. A complaint is you see a piece of trash on the floor and you go, "Oh, LA's so dirty." You've removed the agency that you can have an impact on that. A statement is, "Oh, LA is a bit dirty, there's trash and flow, I'm gonna pick that up and throw it away." Right? Taking that responsibility. So when we're irresponsible in our spiritual lives, we judge everyone and judge everything. And we mature, we start looking at through compassion, empathy and connection and recognize we were just there a few years ago. And that's the biggest anchor in my life is recognizing that I was addicted to, and still am in different ways, things that I don't believe are good for me spiritually.

• 33:12Jay Shetty?

  And I was that, I was that guy, I was that kid, you know? And it's taken a journey and someone had to believe in me, someone had to invest in me, someone had to reach their hand without being forced in and pull me out. And so that allows me to continue to operate in the world. I hope that answers your question.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 33:28Jay Shetty?

  There you go.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  Thank you. So Jay, when I saw you speak at Wisdom 2.0 last weekend, you got on stage and you quoted Martin Luther King. It was a quote on justice, love, and a big theme of this event has been MLK, his vision for justice as the application of power to remove all obstacles of love. We just had Marion Williamson take the stage here and talk about the importance of standing up, of activism. What are your views on this?

• 33:56Jay Shetty?

  So, I wanna approach it from a, from a slightly different angle as well. How many of you spend a lot of your days multitasking?

• 34:07Jay Shetty?

  Okay, good. So, a lot of us spend our time multitasking. Now, studies show that only 2% of us are actually able to multitask. And when most people hear that, they're like, "Yeah, I'm in that 2%." That's me, right? I'm in that 2%. You're probably not, I'm not, because it's only 2% of the global population of the world. Multitasking's a myth. And I find that as spiritual activists, as conscious change makers, as change agents of the world, whatever you wanna call yourself, all of us, one of the biggest mistakes we've seen, and this was a quote that I shared and a thought from Martin Luther King that

• 34:46Jay Shetty?

  I've really held close to me, is he said, "Those who love peace need to learn to organize themselves as well as those who love war."

• 34:58Jay Shetty?

  Those who love peace need to learn to organize themselves as well as those who love war. I.e. people are trying to build destruction in the world and distractions in the world are highly organized, highly focused, highly data-oriented, highly strategic, highly process-driven. And so we have to be the same. And when you spend time with Vishen, you spend time with the Mindvalley team, you realize their success is intuitive, it is deep, it is full of love, but it is also highly strategic, it is also highly focused, and therefore it's effective. And so for me, my plea to all of you and to myself is whatever we're gonna do, let's get really strategic about it. Let's bring sincerity and strategy together. Let's bring

• 35:41Jay Shetty?

  data and dynamism together. Let's bring intuition and insight together. Right? Let's not, let's not look beyond that and think, "Oh, that stuff's gonna work out because I intend, my intention's nice." Right? Your intention's not gonna run a mile, but it will help you run the marathon. But it's not gonna run that mile that you need to do right now. And so for me, intention and action, intention and attention, both of them are required. And so my recommendation is whatever your dream is, whatever you're inspired by, whatever you think's gonna have a positive impact on the world, bring both to that. Right? Don't settle for one or the other.

• 36:15Speaker 02

  Thank you. And what you said so relates to Marian Williamson, who was here just two hours ago, who said, "We need to wage peace as effectively as people wage war." So thank you for that connection to a big theme of this event. Let's take another question from the audience.

• 36:30Jay Shetty?

  I hope I'm not boring you, by the way.

• 36:33Speaker 08

  Hello.

• 36:34Jay Shetty?

  Yes, hi.

• 36:35Speaker 08

  Hi, Sunita here. So my question is, you know, we're all, we go through the transformational journey, and it's very personal. We all start at different timelines. But what if we are not able to rally our loved ones into this journey? Like, for example, your spouse. And there is a fear of you outgrowing them. And also your loved ones, like your parents don't understand your journey, your kids don't understand your journey, and you're on a different path. How do we tackle this? Because I think it's important to bring them along. We can't just leave our relationships just because we are growing. So I wanna know how do we rally them onto this journey and open up possibilities for them as well?

• 37:13Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. Beautiful question. Thank you. Thank you so much.

• 37:22Jay Shetty?

  So I think the biggest and hardest lesson is that our family and our friends will be more inspired by our example than our education. They're gonna change when they see us change. They're gonna transform when they see us genuinely transform. They're... They're not fascinated by how much you've learned and how much you know and you can do a headstand now and, you know, you can do all these chakras and mudras and you know all these Sanskrit words and, you know, like... That doesn't move the people that have known you since you were young or have known you before and that doesn't make an impact on them. What makes an impact on them is your example and your transformation and the amount you've changed.

• 38:06Jay Shetty?

  I remember, this was really tough. So, someone asked a similar question, but in a... Not as nicely as you did, you asked it very respectfully. But I remember when I was a monk, one... This question was asked to my teacher. And my teacher's actually very compassionate, but this was one of his like heavier moments of like... It was harsh. But he was asked by someone in the crowd, they said to him, "I'm trying so hard to, you know, get my family to become spiritual and I'm doing everything and they don't listen to me and I'm trying really hard and it's not working and I'm like doing this and I'm doing that and I'm doing this and I'm teaching them this and I'm taking them this and nothing's happening." And my teacher said to them, and they were a student of his, and my teacher said to them, he said, "Tolerate them as I'm tolerating you."

• 38:51Jay Shetty?

  And I was like... And so, he actually said, and he's super sweet. Like, my teacher's like 70 years old, he's been a monk for 40 years, he's amazing. He's one of the sweetest people in the world and he said that and I was like, "Whoa." I was like, "You just got served." You know, like, it was one of those moments. And, you know, he's in robes and he says it really peacefully and everything, but... The lesson I got from that, the lesson I got from that is that someone's done that for us. Like someone's been patiently waiting for me to transform, for me to grow, whether it's a mentor, a guide, a guru, a teacher, whatever it is, like there's someone in our life, in any transformation, who's also waiting for us. So part of it is patience.

• 39:36Jay Shetty?

  Patience is a huge thing. You're never gonna change someone or make them do something. And half the time, you just have to get out of the way. The part with patience that works is introduce them to who they're inspired by. Don't try and be their inspiration. Right? And I often say that to even in parenting situations, like when parents introduce their kids to people they're inspired by, that will help the kids more than telling the kids to do the right thing. And I've seen that happen so often. When you look at sports as well, like even if your father was the best actor or best sports player in the world, or your mother was the best tennis player or performer, or whatever it is, you're never impressed by your parents. Like we're rarely impressed by our family when we're younger.

• 40:19Jay Shetty?

  We get gratitude later on, but in our early days, we don't have that. But we need to meet people. So if you can introduce your family to people they're inspired by, that's gonna make a huge difference. And the final one, like I said at the start, was just your example. Seeing you really change, seeing your behavior change, your language change, your communication change, that's gonna give them the greatest confidence that, you know, what she's doing is right. It works. Right? The proof's in the pudding. The proof's in seeing you actually make that change. That answers your question.

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Thank you. Thank you, Jay.

• 40:50Jay Shetty?

  Thanks so much. You're all so kind.

• 40:55Speaker 02

  So what then, what then is next for Jay Shetty? What are you focused on next? Or rather, let me rephrase that question. What are some visions that you have for how you are going to serve the world?

• 41:09Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. Thank you. So when I started out, I started this journey 13 years ago, but my video content only three years ago. When I started out, I never thought it would work. So I had a lot of limiting beliefs. I never thought it would get this far. I never believed that. I thought I was gonna work a full-time job, come home, spend all my time editing videos, and hopefully do this on the weekend. That's how I'd envisioned my life. So I'm very grateful for all of you who've ever watched, liked, or shared a video. I'm extremely touched that you've taken the time to even listen to me and... I'm living a very blessed and fortunate life. So I come from a place of deep gratitude. And now that I've seen what's possible, now I'm the opposite way. Now I'm like, wow, I can't wait now. Like now I'm really, really excited.

• 41:53Jay Shetty?

  One of my biggest beliefs, and I read a study that inspired my beginning, and it was that the most successful people in the world, healthy, wealthy, or wise, choose education over entertainment. And the most unsuccessful people in the world, unhealthy, unwealthy, or unwise, choose entertainment over education. So I made it my mission in life to build entertainment-first content with an educational heart. And I was thinking, how do we make wisdom spread at the pace people want entertainment? How do we meet people where they are so that they can come on a journey with us? How do we meet people? Because guess what? Hundreds of thousands of people will do courses, millions of people will come to events,

• 42:36Jay Shetty?

  but billions will always watch television and network TV and online programming. How do we meet people there? So a big part of my vision and goal is to create conscious content that will sit on all the platforms that everyone binge-watches, will be extremely entertaining that you won't even know, but it will have the most meaningful messages behind it. It will have the deepest, meaningful messages hidden in the heart of that content. And what's happened on social media and what I've been able to do on social media has proven to me that there's an opportunity for that. Right, I read a study two weeks ago in an Inc. magazine that showed the most viewed videos on social media in 2018. And the top 500 most viewed videos

• 43:20Jay Shetty?

  on social media in 2018 were all positive. They weren't news. They weren't politic. They weren't negative. They were positive videos. And that could have been comedy. It could have been inspirational stuff. It could have been anything. It doesn't have to be motivational or inspirational. It was comedic but positive. That was the stuff that was winning. And so for me, that's step one. Step one is creating a world where all the entertainment we watch, movies, media, everywhere, is highly entertaining, but has messages hidden behind it, which I think it already exists. And the second step is then working with incredible folk like Mindvalley and creating the educational background to give people a journey to go on. So, once they're watching something, how did they then go on their personal journey of transformation?

• 44:05Jay Shetty?

  It's really giving a real pathway, giving a real method, which is non-judgmental, non-sectarian, universal and timeless, so that anyone can find it accessible and practical. And that's a really key word, actually, making it really practical, making it really easy, not making it mystical, so that people get lost, but making it really practical, so that people feel like they're handheld. That would be the goal, making wisdom go viral. Thank you, Jay. Thank you. Thanks so much, Vishen.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 44:34Jay Shetty?

  Thank you so much. Very limited. Thank you, everyone. I'm so grateful. Thank you for listening. Give it up for Jay Shetty. Thank you, everyone. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed that episode. I'd love for you to tag me and at Vishen and at Mindvalley with any of the lessons that you've learned in this podcast. Thank you so much again, and I can't wait for you to check out next week's episodes.

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• 45:38Speaker 04

  Mr. President, my company informed me of the explosion on our rig on October 2nd. Causing massive water displacement and triggering a tsunami. They all heap the blame on me. Tom Cruise is.

• 45:49Speaker 05

  Digger got us into this mess, and Digger's gonna dig us up.

• 45:53Speaker 04

  From the director of Birdman and The Revenant.

• 45:55Speaker 06

  What would happen if I stopped drilling? You stop, you freeze in there. That's what...

• 45:59Speaker 05

  With great power comes great deniability.

• 46:03Speaker 06

  I'm not the first daddy.

• 46:04Speaker 05

  Digger. See the trailer online. Only in theaters October 2nd. Rated R. Under 17. Not a middle without parent.