Ukraine's 'Russian Pearl Harbor', Epstein Video BOMBSHELL, Musk Ditches DOGE | PBD Podcast | Ep. 593

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, Brandon Aceto, and Adam Sosnick break down Ukraine’s “Russian Pearl Harbor” drone strike, Bongino’s cryptic tease of an explosive Epstein video, and Elon Musk’s shocking move to distance himself from DOGE. ------ 🧢 VT STATE HATS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4mmYypN?r=qr 🖥️ VT WEBINAR: HOW TO BE A KILLER IN BUSINESS WITHOUT KILLING YOUR MARRIAGE | JUNE 11TH | 12:30PM: https://bit.ly/4hVTkPK 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 0:29Speaker 01

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• 1:08Speaker 02

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one of one. My sundries.

• 1:18Speaker 03

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:25Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, Rob, what episode are we on? Let's see, it doesn't say the number. This is 593. 593 it is. Lots going on, we're back from Italy. And Vinnie brought a mosquito from Italy on the flight. You know, you open up your jacket, a mosquito is on the flight. Came on the flight. That's how it's snapping, that's how viruses get spread, by the way, just so you know that, and I hope you're okay with that. He was like, grazie, grazie. He was flying around, and he was appreciative of the... Meanwhile, a lot has happened. Can't be doing that. A lot has happened. Palantir to create vast federal data platform, trying, tying together millions of American private records, stock jumps. So this could be another RICO, this could be another, uh, what's the other one? Patriot Act. People are worried about this situation here,

• 2:09Patrick Bet-David?

  but we'll see, we'll see what's going on there. Uh, video about President Trump saying he would consider pardoning Diddy, and then 50 Cent responds back and says, "Hey, let me try to change your mind about pardoning this guy." But there's some stuff going on there. Harvard has trained so many Chinese Communist officials, they call it their "party school." So in China, they call Harvard a "party school." I mean, I remember when "party schools" were... UC Santa Barbara. Yup. It was Arizona State University. San Diego State. San Diego State, Florida State. Florida State, baby, come on now. And now, apparently now it's Harvard. Harvard's a, you know, party school. Let me tell you, nothing comes close to the party school of Glendale Community College. Nothing. I heard rumors. I dare you guys. 1.8. Glendale Community College was amazing. Xi Jinping's daughter faces call to be deported from US, and guess what school she goes to?

• 2:54Patrick Bet-David?

  We will find that out. Elon Musk follows bombshell, drug user poured with black eye Oval Office press conference. The video that's Van Nuys Fair will play that clip. Trump questioned extent of Musk's Doge cuts. They had a little bit of back and forth, and we'll see what the fellas have to say about it today. Musk was kind of disappointed with Trump's spending bill, and then at the same time, Cash Patel and Bongino are saying there's a video. There's a jail video showing Jeffrey Epstein that he died by suicide. And apparently they're going to release that video, and Vinny's waiting. Vinny's waiting very excited to see it. Yeah, okay. These are the retailers raising prices as Trump's tariffs take hold. And here are some major companies, US companies, warning about tariffs.

• 3:39Patrick Bet-David?

  In their earning report, we'll give you their numbers here in a second. Free Israeli hostage says Hamas captors were rooting for Harris to beat Trump. Very insightful interview. We'll show it to you. Huh. Just got some terrible news about the fact that Bernard Kerik passed a few days ago at 69 years old. He was a friend. He was a New York police commissioner, one of the toughest guys that was influential in keeping the streets of New York clean. May God bless his soul, and I think his legacy continues with his son. And I'm certain he's going to do something with it, so God bless the Kerik family.

• 4:15Patrick Bet-David?

  LA City Council passes budget that trims police fire spending. Tom's got some thoughts on that. Colorado fire attack suspect plotted for a year. They've known about this for about a year. And by the way, you know, it could create a little bit of ruckus because he was a B1 visa guy. I don't know if you looked into that or not. He was. Big Short investor, Michael Burry. Somebody that you gotta listen to when he says he's going to be doing something. This is the guy from the movie Big Short at the end, which says, "I'm going to buy water moving forward." Mm-hmm. That's the next investment that he's getting into. He just liquidated his portfolio except for one company. And I guarantee you, you will, if we wait here for five, you know, for two hours, you will not be able to guess the company.

• 4:52Speaker 05

  You said, did you say water, like big water?

• 4:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He said water is the future investment. Yeah.

• 4:56Speaker 05

  Wow, water.

• 4:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Jamie Dimon calls on US to stockpile bullets, rare earth instead of bitcoin. That's what he's talking about. There's a lot of things that Jamie Dimon says. He warns the US bond market will crack under pressure from rising debt. And he predicts cracking of bond markets citing US fiscal mess. Home sellers now outnumbered by half a million, according to Redfin. Iran's producing near weapon-grade uranium amid nuclear talks, UN watchdog said. And Putin's bombers wiped out in drone blitz as Russia demands retaliation. They're calling this the Russia's Pearl Harbor. Wait till you see this video. Rob just showed it to us. Unbelievable. Jake Tapper had another rough week. I mean, his book isn't doing that well. And not only that, his viewership, it's like,

• 5:43Patrick Bet-David?

  he came out to sell the book, but the way he promoted the book, he lost credibility of what he has to say because no one now believes that he's going to report on anything that he knows about. What a weird strategy. If you think about it.

• 5:53Speaker 05

  It's stupid.

• 5:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Jake, what was that all about, Jake? Bill Maher backs Trump blasts Harvard University. It's an asshole factory is what he talks about. So Bill Maher talked about there. Disney makes hundreds more layoffs as it cuts costs. Democratic Party horrendous polling leaves CNN data guru in disbelief. When you see this, it doesn't make any sense. And I like because he goes all the way back to 1989. And who America looked at was more favorable with middle America, that was concerned about middle America. And you should see what happens from 89 till today. And Democrats were at 24% lead, I believe. And you should see the numbers today. It's pretty dramatic.

• 6:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Sesame Street stocks, uh, Stokes backlash for promoting Pride Month. G for groomer. This video, I don't know if we can play this video or not, Rob. Maybe we can, maybe we cannot. But, uh, when you see this video, it's just very, very weird what's going on. And you know what month it is. It's Pride Month. Uh, I asked the guys to represent Pride Month, uh, this month. Vinny came with a cross. He's proud to be a Christian. Yep. Tom came with a, a pin of a vaquetainment. He's proud to represent vaquetainment, pictures of his family. Adam came in with, uh, the tattoo that he got on his wrist of his two cats. He's very proud of his cats and his family that he's got. From the lower back now. Brandon came in, you know, with, with a very uncomfortable outfit. We have to tell him to change because Brandon literally thought I said, dress up as if it is, but, uh, it's gonna be okay. We got a lot of. On orders. Yeah. I mean, you're coachable. I respect it.

• 7:20Patrick Bet-David?

  But, uh, a few things with baseball teams. Why are the Texas Rangers the only MLB team without a Pride Knight? We'll talk about that. And New List exposes 12 NFL teams for refusing to post message supporting Pride Month on social media. There's a few other things that we'll get into it story wise that we have here. Um, we got a long ways to go today on the podcast. Gang, as you're listening to this, we were in Italy and while we're walking the streets of Italy, it is so amazing when people walk up, oh my God, future looks bright, da, da, da, da, the brand. It's so awesome seeing it around the world with what's happening with the energy. A vlog will be shared here soon. While we're in Italy, someone decides to drive the car, play chicken with another car.

• 8:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And the car almost flips. You have to see this video to believe what happened. I have the video. I'm not gonna tell you who that was, but somebody that drives recklessly in Italy, who would do such a thing? Pop the tire too. Pop the tires. It's a lot of stories, a lot of stories, some true, some not true. I have one guest. It's entertaining and we had a great time with Stefano Ricci. And there's a new project that's coming out. But in the interim, while you're watching this, before we get started with the podcast, if you believe the future looks bright and you live in Florida, Texas, California, or New York, in that order, by the way, of the hats. The hats are available for your state where you get to wear future looks bright. And on the site has your state on it. I think the Florida numbered hats, there's three left on the numbers for Florida. But the rest of them, there's a, a few left for you to go order, Rob. Do you have a video on this or no with the hats? Yep.

• 8:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, uh, press the video on this here. You can go to play it. And it tells you on that, so on the cover, it says future looks bright. Vaquetainment logo on the other side. You got Florida, California, Texas. And New York, if you're proud of your state where you're living and you believe the future looks bright, go for it. And by the way, we got emails from people saying, how about our state? How about this? How about that? Look, we even had a couple of guys that ordered the hats and send it to people that live in Texas, New York, California, Florida. And a lot of good commentary. I was tagged on a bunch of different gifts that people got. So go place your order, go to VTmerch.com, place your order for the hat that represents your state or buy it as a gift for somebody that lives in those states. All right. So let's get right into it. Russia, President Trump is trying to, you know, broker peace

• 9:33Patrick Bet-David?

  deal between Russia and Ukraine. We hear the story. He pulls aside Macron and says, nope, I'm gonna go talk to Zelensky myself. They sit down, boom, you got the mineral deal that gets done. And then all of a sudden, hey, Putin, is he gonna come to the meeting? Is he not gonna come to the meeting? He doesn't show up to the meeting. And then suddenly, this event takes place, calling it the Pearl Harbor of Russia. Forty Russian strategic bombers, TU-95, destroyed in daring Ukrainian FPV drone swarm raid. Take a look at this video, Rob. Do we have audio for the audience to react to the audio as well?

• 10:08Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 10:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this and listen to the audio, folks. Go ahead. Look at that. Look at those bombers.

• 10:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You see that? It's like straight out of the movie Pearl Harbor.

• 10:26Speaker 05

  Let's get video.

• 11:00Patrick Bet-David?

  This thing is going on. You can pause it right. It goes for a while, by the way. Forty. So let me read this story to you. Ukrainian Secret Service, SBU, executed Operation Spiderweb, targeting Olenya and Belaya airfields with first-person view drones launched from trucks, with SBU sources claiming. Thirty-four percent of strategic cruise missile carriers at the main airfields of the Russian Federation were hit, causing $7 billion in damage. Ukrainian President Zelensky described it as an absolute brilliant result, noting, "One year, six months and nine days from the start of the planning to effective execution and an operation achieved solely by Ukraine."

• 11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  The strikes hit over 40 Russian aircraft, including Tu-95, Tu-22M3, and AM-850 bomber. With pro-Kremlin war analyst Vlad Dzyal Podzavki stating, "Disabling strategic aircraft gives Russia the right to use ready nuclear weapons." Let me say this one more time. "Disabling strategic aircraft gives Russia the right to now use nuclear weapons." Citing Russia's nuclear doctrine, "Allowing a response to attacks on critical government or military infrastructure." Russian war channel labeled it Russia's Pearl Harbor, with pundit Roman Alekin demanding the response will be the same as the US response to the attack on Pearl Harbor, or even harsher. Those are some strong words right there. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 12:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is, this is really bad. This is horrifying. In the midst of Trump trying to broker and trying to negotiate, there are forces out there that want nothing but war. And remember, Ukraine has been enabled by this. People are giving Ukraine, Ukraine weapons systems that they apparently use themselves. When he says "achieved solely by Ukraine," what he's saying is, "We did it." Yeah, but you did it with, with arms and stuff you were given by other people. And so this is, this is a big bump in the road toward peace, because you, you can't, if you had Putin ready to sit down and talk about something, okay, tell you what, you keep Crimea, we make a line right here, we do a couple of things, we negotiate this, can we, can we, can we get to a peace and a détente here?

• 13:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And now Putin's like, what are you talking about? Which one of you folks, you know, sold these weapons? Which one of you folks distracted me? Because remember Putin, if anything, has got a high level of paranoia. And so he's going to look at this and have a, the one quote that I believe in this story, the response will be the same as US or pro harbor or even harsher. Why leave pro hub at that? It's going to be a very harsh, strong response. And I think we just took two steps back on, you know, a peace treaty, which is really a border definition treaty. Because Russia wants Crimea, Russia wants to keep dorm bus, and Ukraine would like to get back on its feet, the core people. But Zelensky or whoever's supporting him, they want war.

• 13:57Tom Ellsworth?

  This, this is nasty. Adam, thoughts?

• 14:00Adam Sosnick?

  So it's the number one story on Wall Street Journal right now.

• 14:05Adam Sosnick?

  Apparently they're both in Istanbul right now, where these Russia and Ukraine peace talks are taking place, allegedly. But if you actually look at what's going on in real life, on one hand, they're like, yeah, yeah, Trump, we're going to sit down. We're going to have peace talks. We're gonna, we're gonna work this out. On the other hand, they're bombing the crap out of one another.

• 14:27Adam Sosnick?

  As much as I support Trump and I voted for Trump, he promised to end this war in one day, actually before he assumed office. I think there's both sides saying, dude, I don't think you even understand a fraction of what this war is all about. Because this is not stopping anytime soon. By the way, there's another article right now talking about how Putin has geared up the entire Russian economy to focus solely on war. So the whole conversation about, what is that?

• 14:57Speaker 00

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' healthcare to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the HouseMajorityPac.com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

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• 15:39Speaker 03

  Kayak.

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• 15:50Speaker 05

  Rob, whose phone is that?

• 15:51Adam Sosnick?

  Chat GPT.

• 15:52Speaker 05

  On whose phone?

• 15:53Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry about that.

• 15:54Speaker 05

  Is that you?

• 15:54Adam Sosnick?

  Wow, they're listening. They just tapped my phone. By the way, they talked about how Putin's entire economy was hinged upon basically only focus on war. The running joke about Russia for many years is that it was a gas station masquerading as a country. Now it is a full on gas station, oil field, and war machine that is only focusing on Putin's war. And my assumption is it's only going to get worse since this whole Operation Spiderweb just happened, when they basically eliminated, what, 40 of their planes? So, how many deaths have been in this war since 2022?

• 16:27Speaker 05

  Hundreds of thousands.

• 16:28Adam Sosnick?

  Hundreds of thousands, at least a million. Where are the campus protests? Where are the people talking about the deaths of the civilians? Nothing, zero. Why don't we hear about this anymore? This is the number one war in the world. Now they're threatening what, PBD? Nuclear war? No, let's not talk about it.

• 16:47Speaker 05

  But, this is, by the way, Adam, Trump said a lot of things, but when you have people like Lindsey Graham, who's been there since the 30th, who is a freaking warhawk, that's been pushing for us to go to war with Ukraine. That's all this guy is. And I love how people are always like, well, you guys are only on one side. No, no, Lindsey Graham is one of those people that we talk about.

• 17:06Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean pushing us to go to war with Ukraine?

• 17:07Speaker 05

  Lindsey, not with Ukraine, to drag us into a war with Russia. That's the, at the end of the day, it's not Trump, it's the people behind them.

• 17:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So you think this is Lindsey Graham?

• 17:15Speaker 05

  Lindsey Graham has been there, talking to him this whole week.

• 17:18Adam Sosnick?

  Lindsey Graham has absolutely zero pull.

• 17:20Speaker 05

  You don't think Lindsey?

• 17:21Adam Sosnick?

  Zero. It's a coalition, people.

• 17:22Speaker 05

  You don't think Lindsey Graham is in there in his ear?

• 17:24Adam Sosnick?

  Lindsey Graham is a senator, he doesn't run anything. It's a coalition.

• 17:27Speaker 05

  He doesn't run anything, he's there, talking about peace talks, then all of a sudden, have you, well, wait, in this past-

• 17:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this the Bannon clip?

• 17:34Adam Sosnick?

  Are you bringing up Lindsey Graham?

• 17:35Speaker 05

  I haven't seen the Bannon clip, but I know that he's there, and he is a warhawk. He wants us to go to-

• 17:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this about, Rob?

• 17:40Adam Sosnick?

  He's been saying this for years.

• 17:41Speaker 09

  This is, Steve Bannon was on Chris Cuomo's News Nation, where he talks about Lindsey Graham being arrested for continuing to stir up animosity with Zelensky in Ukraine.

• 17:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 17:50Speaker 10

  I don't know whether it's true that Ukraine didn't give us a heads up and that the United States wasn't involved in the planning or execution. I don't know that. I know what the White House has said. I don't necessarily believe it. I don't know that it's not true either. But I don't understand how you could want to jail a US Senator because he's saying something you don't like. That sounds like the worst of the deep state.

• 18:14Speaker 11

  Sounds like what happens in Russia. He's stirring. No, no, no. It's absolutely what he's doing. What he's doing over there right now is stirring it up. He's giving the Ukrainians false hope. He's giving Ukrainians false hope. He's giving Ukrainians false hope that we're there to support them on engaging Russia in a kinetic conflict and we are not.

• 18:37Speaker 10

  So maybe he's wrong. But what do you say, throw him in jail?

• 18:39Speaker 11

  President Trump, in the central parts of President Trump. Hey, Lindsey Graham, two things, two things ought to happen. Either cancel his passport and don't let him back in the country, or put him in jail if he comes back. Lindsey Graham is stirring it up right now.

• 18:52Speaker 10

  What the hell is this guy talking about?

• 18:53Speaker 11

  And people better wake up to the fact. I get it. Jailing a Senator? So we're going to suck this war.

• 18:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Brandon, your thoughts?

• 18:58Speaker 12

  Yeah, so we have mechanisms in place to take care of things like this. And if Trump's not going to take those mechanisms out because of the bad sides of them, like why, why isn't he using the good sides of them? Like the national endowment for democracy put things like this into place. So, you know, I think it's time with Zelensky not being compliant with what we want him to do, with him going behind our back as he's pretending to do peace talks and playing this for a year and a half. You know, it's time to overthrow him. It's time to use something like the national endowment for democracy to take him out of power because the vast majority of his country wants him out of power. They're calling him a dictator. He's doing things that are putting us in danger, that are putting us in danger of nuclear war and putting the rest of Europe in a war posture position. So.

• 19:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think, do you think Trump knew that Zelensky was going to do this?

• 19:35Speaker 12

  Probably not, because he's.

• 19:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think he knew? You don't think the intel knew? Tom, do you think Trump knew? Do you think the White House knew this was going to happen?

• 19:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I think we've got really good intel and I think we wake up in the middle of the night, we freak out. But.

• 19:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Middle of the night type of knowing, not like we've known for a week.

• 19:50Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think, I think, no, I don't, I don't know if we've known for a week. It's like, hey, we suspected this, we suspected this. They just pulled the trigger on this, Mr. President. They just pulled the trigger on this. Can I ask you a question?

• 19:59Speaker 12

  Yes.

• 20:00Tom Ellsworth?

  So what you just said sounds a little bit like, and I'd like you to unpack it. I'm not attacking you. I'd like you to unpack it.

• 20:05Speaker 12

  For sure.

• 20:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Sounds just like we need to knock out Saddam Hussein. He's not there. We need to overthrow him. But then there were things that filled the vacuum. If Zelensky, let's say tomorrow, Zelensky. Hell, had an overdose, had a John Belushi death.

• 20:19Speaker 12

  Yep.

• 20:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, what fills the vacuum? Because you're saying we need to take him out. What fills the vacuum? What are the political forces that are there? Is it like an Ayatollah, a completely radical member? Or is it a military conversion? What happens in Ukraine if somebody does take Zelensky out? You're well read on this.

• 20:36Speaker 12

  Yeah, so for example, the guy that we had on this podcast, he had to leave the country. He used to be Zelensky's advisor.

• 20:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Boris Zelensky.

• 20:43Speaker 12

  Yes, the vast majority of the country wants him in power. So somebody like that, it's a much more structured place than Iraq. It's not like a chaotic situation. If you take him out, they want peace and stability and strong leadership. And popular sentiments on that side of things where they don't want to be antagonizing Russia. And you could probably get them on board with giving a portion of Ukraine to Russia. Because I mean, Ukraine's barely even a real state. Like, it's only existed for 30 years. Like, 90% of Russia's existence is part of Russia. Then, you know, we help overthrow Russia, Russia collapses, and then we just take that part of it, use US lobbyists to create this state called Ukraine.

• 21:18Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a lot of countries that exist for the last 30 years. It's called the ending of the Cold War. So when the Eastern Bloc fell, you know, all these countries that, believe me, want to be free. Every single Stan, every single country down there.

• 21:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you how this works.

• 21:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Used to be part of the USSR.

• 21:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's a question for you. For him to make, he says 18 months, and execution was perfection, right? He's his word.

• 21:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 21:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So for this to happen, and for it to take place, he has to have such confidence and such backing to know Putin's not going to do anything. Who gives him that level of backing? NATO? Well, you think that's the backing? He ain't getting it from Trump. So where is he getting the backing from to act this boldly to cause a Russian Pearl Harbor? And what did the Russian guy say? Hey, how did you guys react, America? So don't give a shit if we react like the way you guys did, if we react to so. And then what's our argument? Well, you know, learn from our mistakes and don't make the mistakes of our previous leaders. And Russia's going to say, shut up.

• 22:18Speaker 12

  Yeah.

• 22:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me, cry me a river with all this bullshit that you guys have done all this damage, and I can't do anything? So to me... For a Zelensky to act this boldly, someone gave him the permission and the backing. Who is that?

• 22:32Speaker 12

  Well, think about it, rogue elements of the CIA or the intelligence agency, like, that's the thing. It's, look at the CIA director, he, like, first day in office, they come in, they put signal on his device as well, even him even wanting them to do it. So, the director of the CIA has no idea what's really going on in the CIA, and the president has no idea what's really going on on the CIA. So, rogue elements have been doing things that nobody has any idea about for decades. And I think, and it's always been the case that powerful forces are very interested in getting control of Russia's resources. Like, that's why everybody hates Putin, is because, you know, we put oligarchs in place at the end of the Cold War. We're exercising control through them, then Putin gets into power, and he takes control over the oligarchs, gets them out of power. So, we lose access to Russia's markets. So, you know, even in the first Russia revolution, we wanted access to Russia's markets.

• 23:13Speaker 12

  So, that's why these powerful forces are so interested in, you know, I guess, wearing Russia down.

• 23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Who gives Zelensky this level of confidence to act as boldly as he did? Who?

• 23:25Speaker 12

  Rogue elements of CIA.

• 23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Rogue elements of CIA?

• 23:28Speaker 12

  Yeah.

• 23:29Patrick Bet-David?

  What kind of power do the rogue elements of the CIA have that Trump's not gonna be able to shut down and say, hey, what are you doing?

• 23:36Speaker 12

  They're invisible.

• 23:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You think that's what's given Zelensky that power?

• 23:40Speaker 12

  Yeah.

• 23:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't know, because you have to realize, this is not a regular thing.

• 23:46Speaker 12

  This is, this is.

• 23:46Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not a regular thing. I mean, to do something like this publicly, and not only that, you know, you know what's even more irritating?

• 23:52Speaker 12

  What?

• 23:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What he said, let me read it to you one more time, what he said.

• 23:55Speaker 12

  Hmm.

• 23:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Think you're Putin. Go, go be Putin for a second, okay? Not what you wore this morning, but be Putin for a second. Listen to the profile, I'm gonna read it to you one more time. You ready? Here's what he said, okay? This is Zelensky.

• 24:10Patrick Bet-David?

  An absolutely brilliant result, one year, six months, nine days, from the start of planning to effective execution, achieved solely by Ukraine. You're Putin. You wake up, your general tells you, this is what happened to our unit. And forget about that, that's $7 billion. We'll make the money from somewhere.

• 24:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 24:31Patrick Bet-David?

  But Zelensky says this publicly, to put an "in your face" on top of it, that "I'm not scared of you." How much longer does Putin have to go acting like he can be pushed around?

• 24:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I don't expect him to keep acting like that. I expect it like a screw.

• 24:46Patrick Bet-David?

  How bad you think the response is gonna be, Tom? How bad you think the response is gonna be? Like, honestly, like, do you, okay, so are we at a point where percentage of nuclear response, what percentage are you at? Nuclear, Tom. I'm gonna ask all of you guys, just 30 seconds, no explanation, just give me what you think it is.

• 25:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 25:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero to 200, nuclear reaction.

• 25:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Zero to 200?

• 25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero to 100%.

• 25:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Zero to 100? Well, remember, I think it's 50%, but there's three levels of nukes. There's depleted uranium weaponry. There's isolated nukes, which people believe have been used in warfare already. And then there's full-blown, you know, the mushroom cloud. Endgame. I think there's a 0% chance of the mushroom cloud, but I believe there's tactical stuff out there that, that...

• 25:29Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage you say?

• 25:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's 50% that he can move to the tactical dirty bomb.

• 25:33Speaker 12

  I say 10% for nukes, but like, over 50% for the harshest action they've taken so far in this, I think they'll throw everything they have at them except for nukes.

• 25:44Speaker 05

  25 to 30% lower-grade nukes, but we're, like you said, we're talking about a guy that's been pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed back, it's about to go down. I'm telling you right now, you think he's gonna go quiet? You think Putin's not gonna respond to that?

• 25:56Adam Sosnick?

  Very low, less than 5%. He's been threatening nuclear war since the beginning of this war and has done nothing. A week ago, one week ago, what did Trump say about Putin? He tweeted, "Vladimir has gone crazy." Do you remember that?

• 26:13Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 26:13Adam Sosnick?

  So I think that there's an element of this that Trump has felt disrespected. Trump realizes that he came out the box and said, I'm gonna end this war on day one. Meanwhile, it's day 150, whatever it is right now. I think he feels disrespected by Putin. I think he thought that Putin was someone that he could rationalize with. And what he's realizing is that the real dictator is Putin. Yes, Zelensky is not exactly a fan favorite around here anymore. But don't forget who the enemy is. It is Putin. But not.

• 26:43Tom Ellsworth?

  You were asking about, you were asking about who's backing him or who gave him a green light. Remember after the fight in the Oval Office and when Trump said, I'm pulling funding. Zelensky went straight to the UK, met with Starmer. Starmer pledged unwavering support. Then Macron pledged unwavering support. And then on February 25th, Olaf Scholz of Germany pledged unwavering support. Remember they said, we will be your backstop bank. We'll be your hard money lender. Remember those deals they put in place, Pat? And they were a little bit worse than our deals. Remember that, that it would actually be a loan and there was a dispute.

• 27:13Adam Sosnick?

  And he did a whole skit about it.

• 27:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember, yeah, UK, France and Germany, there's a dispute there. Remember, those three are selling, especially France. France is a war machine. Remember, they were selling war machines into Arab countries that were using them against Israel. And they were a member of NATO with us. Those three countries in February pledged to support for Ukraine. I'm not sure about the CIA in the back. Do I think they're there? Yeah. Do I think they're calling all the shots?

• 27:38Adam Sosnick?

  CIA is always there.

• 27:39Tom Ellsworth?

  No, but the UK, but the Europeans, after the fight in the Oval Office with Vance, they all said, here's money and we're here to help.

• 27:46Adam Sosnick?

  But it's, but it's, but it's sound like not, maybe you sound, the tone, you sound unconvinced of something.

• 27:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 27:53Adam Sosnick?

  What is it that you're thinking?

• 27:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no. I mean, look.

• 27:57Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're Trump, who are you more upset with right now? Putin or Zelensky?

• 28:01Adam Sosnick?

  Probably Putin.

• 28:01Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 28:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Zelensky, he just, he just Pearl Harbor'd them.

• 28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to know, why do you think he's more upset with Putin right now?

• 28:07Adam Sosnick?

  Um, I think he had his moment in time with Zelensky where he basically dressed him down in the Oval Office. Since then, Zelensky has been his whipping boy. And then he called Putin crazy.

• 28:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. If Zelensky, if Zelensky. Did this without the support or conversation with Trump or anybody on his team. So no one from you, from our administration knew about it. Those are two different things. If. If we knew about it, this is Trump's proxy war.

• 28:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, if Trump knew about it, if Trump didn't know about it and he did, I'm just telling you guys, I'm not I agree. Trying to make any kind of friends, I'm just telling you what I, the options could be. If, if he knew, Trump's officially in the proxy war, using Ukraine to attack Russia to get what he wants from Russia. And the only way somebody acts that brave is someone told you, I got your back, bro.

• 28:59Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 29:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, if, if we go and, and, and you're not a, let's just say you're not a tough guy and there's a bunch of guys that are coming in and you know you have a fight today. And then you go up and they roll up to you, 20 guys come up to you after high school and you walk up and you say, really? Let me tell you, if Patrick finds out you do anything, da, da, da, da, da. Oh, what do you, he's your friend? Of course. Oh, bro, we ain't got no problem, da, da, da, da, da, you can use my name. And you walk up and you're like, oh, do something, do something, do something, right? That's Zelensky. Dude, you can't act like this without a backing, you can't do something like this without backing. Who the hell gave him the confidence to act like that? I don't know, by the way, I'm not telling you it's Trump, I don't know.

• 29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  All I'm saying is for you to be that freaking bold to make that kind of a statement. Say it's an 18 month plan and then say something like this and you want Putin to sit there and be like, who the fuck he? I've been doing this for 20 some years, you guys are presidents for four years at a time, you guys are nobodies, that's how he views it. This Zelensky guy, he's a nobody, he's not in my class to be sitting at my table, who the hell is he for me to sit on? That's how he views himself, he views himself as a king, he views himself as a leader above these guys. No, I, I, I don't know if I like this and the only question I got is who the hell is giving Zelensky this much confidence to think you can act this boldly? After the minerals deal, after what happened with Russia, after Trump trying to do peace

• 30:26Patrick Bet-David?

  deal, you want to behave like this a week after Trump called out Putin, whatever he called out? I don't know. It doesn't sit well with me.

• 30:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you remember one of the things Zelensky wanted? Zelensky wanted a backstop. And what you just said just triggered my memory of it. When he wouldn't sign the minerals deal first, he said, I want the US to commit to be a backstop. He basically wanted the NATO clause number, whatever it is, about-

• 30:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Article 13.

• 30:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Article 15. He wanted basically a forum of Article 15 on the first minerals deal. Remember that? And Trump's like, no, I'm not giving you a backstop because you're gonna back there and you're not gonna stop the war, and it forces me to keep feeding you. Somebody's, I agree, Pat. Somebody's in his ear and has told him, it may not be public, but we got you.

• 31:10Speaker 05

  I mean, but listen, okay, CIA aside, Trump, I don't think, I don't, I don't think Trump knows. Guys, Lindsey Graham is there. He's a warhawk. He asked for 500% tariffs on Russia every time. He's the pin wearing to hell with Putin, he's the enemy. It's right in front of our face. I don't know what else he told him, but for this type of attack, a Pearl Harbor attack, and that guy's there-

• 31:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think America knows what happened with Epstein? Do you think Trump knows what happened with Epstein?

• 31:36Speaker 05

  Yeah. He knows 100%.

• 31:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Trump knows what happened with Kennedy?

• 31:38Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 31:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Trump knows what happened with 9/11? No. Do you think, you don't think he does? No. You think Trump knows the dirt with Israel, AIPAC? Do you think he knows what those lobbyists are behind, close to the power? Yeah, he was in that network. Do you think he knows all of those people and how the buying, you know, blackmail? Do you think he knows all that stuff? Oh, yeah, he grew up on that.

• 31:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, he grew up on it.

• 32:00Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the point, so.

• 32:01Speaker 05

  But you think he-

• 32:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I have a very hard time saying he knows this stuff and some kind of an intel wasn't dropped. This isn't a small move. You don't, you don't do something like this and you mean to tell me I don't know and I don't have the intel? No. But all I'm saying is, I'm not telling you he supported it. I'm not saying he supported it. And no one's sitting here talking about Lindsey Graham and you know where he's at and whatever he's doing. We want to make Lindsey Graham that powerful? No. You want him, you think he's that powerful?

• 32:28Tom Ellsworth?

  He's not.

• 32:29Patrick Bet-David?

  He's definitely not. One of many. He's a, he shivers when he's around Trump. Yeah. He doesn't, around Trump, act hardcore and all this other stuff? No. Someone gave Zelensky the authority to act the way he did, I want to know who that is. I think if we know who that is, you can find out the rest, 20 things that you want to know. If you only knew- Who gave him the authority to act as hard as he did?

• 32:49Speaker 12

  Well, the thing about the powerful forces, though, that benefit if Putin falls and Russia gets opened up again to the world, you know, like you got BlackRock and JP Morgan chomping at the bit to get into Russia and Ukraine. And you got, like, one-

• 33:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I get that. I get the whole 75 trillion, the most resources in the world.

• 33:04Speaker 12

  Yeah, that's a big thing.

• 33:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I totally get that. But then tell me, so who would do that? Who gives Zelensky this kind of backing? You think it's BlackRock? You think it's Jamie Dimon?

• 33:11Speaker 12

  No, I think it's-

• 33:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You think it's-

• 33:12Adam Sosnick?

  A lot of it is the EU?

• 33:13Speaker 12

  I think it's a coalition. I think it's a coalition that, like, it's private businesses to some degree and it's an intelligence-

• 33:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not enough, bro. That's not enough because the private businesses cannot give you protection from a war. If this guy retaliates and say 100,000 people die in Ukraine, half a million people die in Ukraine, and he's capable of dropping a nuclear, what are you gonna do now? Now, now we have a war around the frickin', it's a world war.

• 33:34Speaker 12

  But remember-

• 33:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Then what happens when that takes place?

• 33:36Speaker 12

  Intelligence agencies operate through businesses, though. That's like their main way. They do espionage.

• 33:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I know they do, but I need backing. So where do I get backing to know that a reaction won't be taking place? If a reaction takes, in this case, who is Japan? In this instance, who is Japan?

• 33:52Adam Sosnick?

  Japan is Ukraine.

• 33:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Japan is Ukraine.

• 33:54Speaker 12

  Okay, yeah.

• 33:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is US?

• 33:57Speaker 12

  Uh, Russia.

• 33:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Russia.

• 33:58Speaker 12

  Yeah.

• 33:58Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened after what Japan did?

• 34:00Adam Sosnick?

  Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

• 34:01Patrick Bet-David?

  How hardcore did Japan to act?

• 34:02Speaker 12

  Hardcore.

• 34:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And then what happened?

• 34:04Speaker 12

  Yeah, they got messed up.

• 34:05Patrick Bet-David?

  They got messed up. So what do you think Putin's thinking right now? If I'm in his room... Yeah, I don't know.

• 34:12Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with everything you're saying, can I give you one caveat, though?

• 34:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go for it.

• 34:16Adam Sosnick?

  Because we're using the metaphor of Pearl Harbor. The reason that that might be a little off is they're already at war. They're already going blow for blow, punch for punch, bomb for bomb, missile for missile. The reason that Pearl Harbor was so over the top dramatic because it came out of nowhere. It came out of completely nowhere. These two countries are already at war. So, you know, what do they say is like, you know, all is fair in love and war? This is what's happening right now.

• 34:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me ask you a question.

• 34:46Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 34:46Patrick Bet-David?

  If, if this morning, we're coming in, you don't have phone, we, we take your phone away from you since midnight. You don't have access to news or anything. We put you in the bedroom, here in the office, you have access to nothing. And we make a list of things that happened. And we make them up. Where would you rank that this happened this morning? We make ten stories. And we tell you, yeah, last night, Ukraine, similar to Pearl Harbor, shot up forty bombers in Russia in a drone attack like never seen before. Where would you rank that? As far as shocked, oh, my God, that happened? Not in my top two or three. It wouldn't even be in your top five? No. Okay, so I just went out right now and asked the question, what is the worst Ukraine? What's the worst? Can you go to a chat GPT type and what's the worst attack?

• 35:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Ukraine has had on Russia so far? What's the worst attack Ukraine has had on Russia so far? Okay, let's see what it says. I got my answer, I'm curious, you know, sometimes it's got different answers for different people, but let's see what it says. Boom, what, which one is that?

• 35:47Speaker 09

  Uh, June first, twenty twenty five.

• 35:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the one. That's the one. So, bro, no one expected this. Yeah. This isn't a regular thing. We're sitting here thinking pieces around the corner. You think this accelerated the process of? No, no, this is definitely. Hell, no. And guess who slowed it down? Zelensky. What do you mean you drop in forty one Russians? And then you brag about it publicly? You know, when you brag about it publicly right there, you know, a guy like Putin, if you're the leader of that country, you have to show strength. You have to show strength. And I don't want any war, I don't want to see anything happen. I've lived in the middle of war until today, when I hear certain sounds, it takes me back to being a kid in Iran. I don't want war anywhere, I don't want anybody died. But if you behave this way, someone give you the confidence that's gonna be okay.

• 36:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Somebody said, don't worry about it, go, we got your back. Who? I want to know. You and riddle me this. Who said? That you can attack and we got your back? That's all I want to know. There's a bunch of weird guys that manek me. And one couple of guys, I don't know their names, so I tell them, I said, are you with the CIA? Who are you with? Because it's almost like you're trying to instill some of the stuff. We get that guy too. Yeah. And I'll say, hey. I'm not gonna say it. Yeah, no, I get it and I appreciate it because he's always very, he gives very interesting angles. But for me, you cannot sit here and be naive, assuming this happened and others didn't know. Yeah, Zelensky did this by himself and nobody knew about this on a big back and, oh, Lindsey Graham is the one that's gonna have his back. What? You think Lindsey Graham is? So let's role play that conversation. Hey, Zelensky, what's up? I'm Lindsey Graham, attack him, I got your back, dog.

• 37:17Speaker 05

  Oh no, who sent Lindsey Graham? Maybe the CIA sent him.

• 37:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Who sent Lindsey Graham?

• 37:21Speaker 05

  Maybe the, maybe the rogue people from the CIA, but what are the timing?

• 37:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, who sent them? When he go there? I sincerely want to be convinced.

• 37:27Speaker 05

  It has, it has to be somebody or a group that wants war with Russia.

• 37:32Patrick Bet-David?

  But who?

• 37:33Speaker 05

  Well, I put.

• 37:33Patrick Bet-David?

  But you have to give me backing.

• 37:36Speaker 05

  Meaning what?

• 37:37Patrick Bet-David?

  If I'm Zelensky, you have to give me backing.

• 37:39Speaker 05

  Like a guarantee, like you're gonna be okay?

• 37:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to give it to me and you don't control the military. You're a world leader. I'm not, I'm a senator. You're a world leader, okay? You're Zelensky, I'm Senator Graham. Who have you sat across?

• 37:52Speaker 05

  Mean, or the, the.

• 37:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Who have you sat across versus me?

• 37:55Speaker 05

  You, you're, you're with all leaders and everybody, I'm just a senator.

• 37:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, you are the, you are Zelensky.

• 38:00Speaker 05

  I've sat with everybody.

• 38:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So in your eyes, how do you look at me?

• 38:03Speaker 05

  You're like a, like not a peasant, but you're like, you're an errand boy for the government.

• 38:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Relax, bro, relax, okay?

• 38:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I have 400 people like you that work for me.

• 38:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Chill out, bro.

• 38:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not that big of a deal, okay?

• 38:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I come to you and I say, hey, listen, I got the backing, CIA's got your back. Do you believe me?

• 38:18Speaker 05

  As, as, as Lindsey Graham saying it to me?

• 38:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you believe me that I go and say Boeing's got your back, General Dynamics has your back? Go. We got your back, go.

• 38:26Speaker 12

  Well, that's a bigger deal if defense contractors do.

• 38:28Patrick Bet-David?

  But do you believe me? I pulled up a contract and I looked at it, said, who is giving the most money to Ukraine? Guess who's number one, what country?

• 38:35Speaker 05

  United States.

• 38:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's Germany, 132 billion dollars. Who's number two? Us, 119 billion. Who's number three? UK. Russia's, Germany's given 132 billion dollars since 2022. To them. So why, I'm, I'm trying to fully understand. Who gave this guy permission to behave the way he did? I would be so, say I'm Trump and I don't know, and you behave that way? I'm on his ass right now.

• 39:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and, and don't be surprised, in the next six hours. If President Trump comes out with a truth social message. Bashing Zelensky? You know he didn't know.

• 39:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 39:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Or maybe he's playing politics. If he comes out bashing Putin. If he comes out trying to be peacemaker, but you know, someone made this guy believe he can go as hard as he wants.

• 39:24Speaker 05

  And I know you want to change, but the Crimean Bridge was attacked for the third time by Ukraine security and there's videos, Valuetainment posted as well. They're, they're still on the offensive.

• 39:31Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this, Rob?

• 39:32Speaker 05

  This is the, that's the Crimean Bridge. The Crimean Bridge was attacked for the third time by Ukraine. This is a little while ago.

• 39:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Today?

• 39:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, today. June 3rd. June 3rd at 4:40 PM.

• 39:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Who did that?

• 39:42Speaker 05

  Ukraine Security Services executed a covert underwater operation targeting the Crimean Bridge, also known as the Courage Bridge. This marks the third time Ukraine has struck the strategic infrastructure since the onset of the war. It's involving planting 1,100 kilograms of explosives underwater for, for months to do this.

• 39:57Adam Sosnick?

  Well, PB, you gotta give you credit. You're, you're asking all the right questions.

• 40:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know any of this.

• 40:02Adam Sosnick?

  No, you're asking questions. There's a famous phrase, he who pays, says. Whoever is funding this operation, which you just read the list, Germany, United States, EU.

• 40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't like it.

• 40:12Adam Sosnick?

  Defense contractors, they're basically saying, keep going. We're not ending this war anytime soon.

• 40:17Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, history has proxies for us, Pat, and they're scary proxies. Remember, it was December 7th, 1941 was Pearl Harbor.

• 40:23Adam Sosnick?

  A day that'll live in for me, Tom.

• 40:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, and it was four years later, after military and military things were going on and you know, all the things, Lady Gulf and everything that went on. The US decided to touch civilian targets in 1945. And people forget that the bombing of Tokyo in March of 1945 was the most devastating. It was more devastating than the two atomic weapons. It was 100,000 people, civilians. We went after civilian targets. And what worries me is that when governments lose patience on military, Pat, you know what I'm saying? When they, when people lose patience on, on the military side and you just couldn't get the Emperor of Japan to break.

• 41:07Tom Ellsworth?

  You go after the civilian targets and then five months later was the two atomic weapons. And it was the power of the weapons that caused Japan to back off. And it scares me to death because that was a long-term protracted war that we, that Japan wouldn't back down. And we finally went for civilian targets. Ninety thousand civilians died in Tokyo in March of 1945. And what scares me is this is-

• 41:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I want to move on, Tom. Yeah, I want to move on. I want to move on because for me, when I'm hearing this, we're on the same page. There's a lot of uncertainty. I don't feel good about it. The timing of it sucks. Uh, like the last thing we need, something like that. We're barely, the economy is like kind of getting a little bit more. This is the last thing we need at a time like this to be thrown. Now, the only thing, if I add the last skepticism, whoever wants Trump to lose the credibility of being a peace president could have influence on causing this to say during his regime, there was a world war. And the left will win from that. They will win from that.

• 42:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So is this a China influence? I don't think. Is this a, I don't know. But to me, there's a lot of moving parts here. Let's move on to the next story. Okay. Uh, so I'm going to go into economy because this kind of goes with economy for me. So for the first time, I don't know if you guys saw this or not, first time in a hundred years, US's, uh, uh, credit rating is officially double A from all three rating services. I don't know if you heard about this. First time in a hundred years, right, if I'm not mistaken, since the twenties, 1920s. That we now have double A with Fitch, double A with Moody and double A with SMP. All three of them. Okay. So this doesn't happen. What does that mean? You know, when you, when you, when I was selling junk bonds or you sell bonds and you buy a junk bond, they would pay 20%

• 42:57Patrick Bet-David?

  or 24% or 18%. What is a junk bond? Like, oh my God, it pays 18%? Yeah, but it's most likely to go out of business because they're not going to be able to pay off the debt. It's like a desperation D paper. But if you get something else that go pays three and a half percent treasury bond, it's a T bill, it's a T bond, it's a 10 year, it's a da, da, da, da, da. Credibility is you're guaranteed to get paid on this, right? So the lower it goes, rates go up. We were talking about this yesterday, Brandon. So I'm going to come to you here in a minute. But I want to play, play a clip for you guys from Jamie Dimon. Rob, if you can play the clip. Of the crack in the bond market, you know, if you have, is this the one? This is it. Go for it, Rob. Play this clip.

• 43:32Speaker 13

  You know, these are very large numbers. You've seen it a little bit. You know, you had the crack in the bond market in COVID a little bit. You know, the government did the right stuff, then they massively overdid both spending and QE. We borrowed and spent $10 trillion from 2020 to today. Wow. Okay, that, and you heard the numbers before. We also bought 4 trillion of your securities. On top of the 4 trillion we bought in the first go around. Those numbers are true globally, not quite as big as ours. But the QE of us was 8 trillion, the QE of the rest of the world is another 8 trillion, something like that. You're talking about huge sums of money, and we don't really know the full effect of that. And, you know, the bond dealers, which Gary mentioned, you know, inventories are much smaller than they used to be.

• 44:17Speaker 13

  Parts because of rules and regulations. And, and you are going to see a crack in the bond market. Okay, it is going to happen. And I tell this to my regulators, some of who are in this room. I'm telling you it's going to happen, and you're going to panic. I'm not going to panic. We'll be fine. We'll probably make more money. And then some of my friends will tell me that we're, that we cause, we like crises because it's good for JP Morgan Chase. Not really. I, you know, I tell people in credit suites when banker up at the First Republic. It was terrible for the banking industry. I think we can make everything better, including that, by just changing and modifying certain rules and regulations. Letting market makers intubate more in the market.

• 44:57Speaker 13

  But to give you a number, like just JP Morgan alone buys and sells $3 trillion a day. And we move $10 trillion a day of money. And we're probably a tenth. So the money moving around the world is 100 trillion a day. The money moving around in the investments, you know, this is stocks, bonds, corporates, governments, derivatives, credit, you name it, FX, sovereign debt around the world, 30 trillion.

• 45:22Speaker 13

  The people who set those long-term rates are those people, including you in the room. It's not the Federal Reserve. They can try to manipulate the long-term rate, they can do the, as it called, you know, they they do the twist or whatever. It doesn't work for that long. So if you look at economic history, bad things happen when those tectonic plates shift. It's very hard to see in real time. It is shifting, and this is one of them. I just don't know if it's gonna be a crisis in six months or six years. And, and I'm hoping that we change both the trajectory of the debt and the, the ability of markets to make markets. And also remember, there are a lot of people, you know, going into, down to Washington, who actually like the bad markets. You know, and the problem with the bad markets isn't that it's bad for the big banks who make markets, it's bad for the people who raise money.

• 46:07Speaker 13

  Small businesses, asset-backed securities, middle-market companies, corporations, the United States government, and that volatility scares people.

• 46:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He can pause it right there. He almost said it, but he didn't want to say it. Of course a bad economy helps these guys out. They, then they buy up a couple companies last time and, you know. Anyways, Brandon, your thoughts on this?

• 46:23Speaker 12

  Yeah, he's saying the bond market's gonna crack. I don't know how we could say the bond market's not cracked already. Like, I don't think it's a normal thing at all for the Federal Reserve to own 20 trillion dollars' worth of bonds and mortgages, like, just to keep interest rates at a normal level. And like, then with them having that, they're still keep, having a hard time keeping them normal. And like he said, yeah, it is mostly the, um, like, private investors that move the bond market around. They say it's the smartest money in the world, because it's like the biggest pile of money in the world. But, um, yeah, it's because of, this is because Trump's showing no semblance of any interest in reducing the deficit and, um, like, really in spending. They keep talking about this 500 trillion dollars of assets that America has, but, you know, like, show that first before, like, putting this stupid bill forward that's gonna put us into more debt that has no interest in, um, saving money or reducing what we're spending. And then Doge was a disaster, a complete failure.

• 47:07Speaker 12

  Maybe they baked that into a degree when he promised a trillion or, um, two trillion. So, yeah, of cour, like, it started falling apart when he proposed that bill, when it looked like that bill was gonna pass. And yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm right there with him. It's, uh, I'm super disappointed that Trump is showing no interest in really in the national debt, and I think it's disastrous, uh, for everybody.

• 47:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Two questions for you, Tom. One, how bad is it that our rating is now double A, Fitch, Moody and S and P? And what are your thoughts on what Jamie Dimon said in this clip?

• 47:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'll break it into three parts. First of all, the rating agencies just said what has been a reality for the past five years since that 20 trillion was suddenly stacked on top of the debt. We are, what are we today, 36.5%? Yeah. Is that the total national? Almost 37, yeah. Almost 37, let's call it 37. 37 trillion in debt. So, the rating agencies just did what should have been done probably five years ago, when you, when, that the only path forward is to raise the debt ceiling. That's the only path forward. Why? Because the yields are at 4.5% right now. So you take 37 trillion times 4.5%, that's your mortgage payment of the United States

• 48:14Tom Ellsworth?

  of America that's in the federal budget. And so, now you have this perpetual momentum machine, Pat, where, "Oh, well, I can't hardly afford the minimum payments on my credit card." Don't worry, we'll do a debt consolidation loan. We'll put your two credit cards together on a slightly, just a little bit less interest rate, and then you pay. That's the momentum we're at. So what is Jamie Dimon talking about? He's saying, "Hey, look, at some point in time, this is going to crack. And when it cracks, there's going to be buyers, there's going to be sellers." And he, he came out and said, "Oh, this was bad for the banking industry. This was horrible for the banking industry, except it was JP Morgan that picked up all the good parts when Humpty Dumpty fell and broke," when he's talking about First Republic, right? They came in, "Hey, you know those, um, not the commercial stuff here,

• 48:58Tom Ellsworth?

  here, this stuff here, yeah, we'll, we'll take that, and we'll pay this, and we'll pay that, so they can help clean up the bankruptcy, so it wouldn't be a full federal bailout." So Jamie Dimon was right, and he was honest about the fact that he benefits, but he was also honest about the fact that we have not had a full settling of the 20 trillion dollars that we added to our debt in four short years. Actually, it's four, not five. And so, and we're now, the yields are going up, so now we're paying 4.5% interest on that, which is making it worse, which is why they keep raising the debt ceiling and getting even more debt, because they can't get the budget through Congress. And so, I share Brandon's concern. It's like, wait a minute, in the big, beautiful bill, I thought we were supposed to have some big, beautiful cuts.

• 49:42Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll, we'll talk about the big, beautiful bill. I want to show you this, though, Rob. Can you play the other clip by Jamie Dimon, says, "Instead of stockpiling on Bitcoin, you should be stockpiling in bullets and, and, uh, yeah, if you can play this clip."

• 49:53Speaker 14

  To that point, do we need to rethink what constitutes national security?

• 49:58Speaker 13

  I wouldn't rethink it. We know what constitutes national security. We need, you know, I was saying we shouldn't be stockpiling Bitcoin. We should be stockpiling guns, bullets, tanks, planes, drones, you know, rare earths. We know what we need to do. This is not a mystery.

• 50:12Speaker 14

  Did you say self-ciling Bitcoin?

• 50:14Speaker 13

  I said, "We shouldn't be stockpiling Bitcoin."

• 50:16Speaker 14

  Oh, it shouldn't be. Okay.

• 50:17Speaker 13

  We should be stockpiling bullets.

• 50:19Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 50:20Speaker 13

  Like, you know, the military guys tell you that, you know, if there's a war in the South China Sea, we have missiles for seven days.

• 50:25Adam Sosnick?

  That's correct.

• 50:26Speaker 13

  Okay, come on. I mean, we can't say that with a straight face and think that's okay. So, we know what to do. We just gotta now go about doing it.

• 50:33Adam Sosnick?

  Adam, thoughts? There's so much to unpack here, and this is the number one issue for, at least for me, is as amazing as America is, as the opportunity economy, or any, you know, the land of opportunity, we are frickin' broke. If this was any household in America, where you have this massive income, amazing income, right? But then, by the way, don't look over here, you're running a $2 trillion deficit every year. What the hell would you do in your house? Chapter 13. All right, "Chapter 13, file for bankruptcy, uh, whoop, we're gonna sell one of the cars." Nope, nope, nope. Sell the boat, pull the kids out of private school. We're not eating out. It's ramen noodles, it's soup.

• 51:16Adam Sosnick?

  We're holding down the fort. We gotta get this shit together. And unfortunately, the US right now is just like, "Nope, keep spending. There's this big, beautiful bill. It's big, it's beautiful." Elon Musk, who just left Doge, came out and said, "Well, it can't be both. It can either be big, or it can be beautiful. But it's gonna be very hard to be big and beautiful." So, you know, Trump, I would hope, doesn't add more to the deficit, doesn't add more to the debt. But you just said that Doge was an astronomical failure. Yeah. We'll see what happens with that. There's a lot to say about what Elon Musk is talking about with his black eye, but... Remains to be seen.

• 51:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me, let me continue. I thought you said you have a lot to unpack on this. So, so here, you're talking about the big beautiful bill, okay? On this topic, we're talking about Jamie Dimon and, and you know, how he's viewing the market. I want to transition into the next topic here, which is Elon Musk and Trump, okay? You know, they said he's gonna work for four months, 110 days, whatever the number was, it's done. He's moving on, no longer there. You're saying Doge was a massive failure, your words.

• 52:20Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 52:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, they said 2 trillion, then they lowered it to 2 trillion, but it's at 170 billion dollars in only four months. Isn't that a success? Some people would say, Brandon, you know, four months to be able to save that much money, and maybe there was a follow-up because the two, you know, he would have wanted to do it in a certain way, but he doesn't have the control because Trump's doing it, he would have gone to... Nobody knows. There's a lot of different things that's going on. I've been calling this that there's gonna be a lifespan of how long this is gonna work out since day one. I said this in October of last year, that this is gonna be tough for the two to work together. Rob, can you start off with the first clip of the big beautiful bill? And then go to one by one by one. Yeah, this is the one. Go ahead and play this clip. Watch this, folks.

• 52:59Speaker 15

  You know, I was like disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly.

• 53:06Speaker 15

  Which increases the budget deficit, not just decrease it. And it reminds the work that the Doge team is doing. I actually thought that when this big beautiful bill came along. I mean, like, everything he's done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year. I think, I think a bill can be, can be, can be big, or it can be beautiful. But I don't know if it can be both. My personal opinion.

• 53:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so this happens, then there's some comments that Trump made about him. Rob, I don't know if you have that one.

• 53:34Speaker 09

  I do.

• 53:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, on, uh, if you have it, just go to it. Is this the one?

• 53:37Speaker 09

  Is this from the Oval Office at the departure ceremony? This is where President Trump gives Elon Musk a key to the White House and talks about all of the trials and tribulations he went through heading up Doge.

• 53:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think there's another one.

• 53:49Speaker 09

  The BS one?

• 53:50Patrick Bet-David?

  The BS one. Yeah, I think there's another one where Trump questioned extent of Musk's Doge cuts.

• 53:57Speaker 09

  So that's a report, there's no actual video clip for that.

• 54:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let me just read that. And by the way, and this is from Forbes magazine, which has become a leftist. China, I don't even want to get into it. Forbes is not the Forbes of what it was 10 years ago, not what it was five years ago. It's a whole different company today, but I'll read this to you. And let's go into that, so. Trump questioned Lammas Doge mask Musk's Doge cuts. Uh, expressed skepticism about the savings claimed by billionaire advisory Lammas Department of Doge reportedly asking, was it all bullshit? According to unnamed administration official cited by Wall Street Journal question Musk's promise to cut a trillion dollars of waste and fraud reduction, which Musk reiterated during a Friday Oval Office press conference with Trump Doge claimed it had saved an estimated $175 billion through workforce reductions, grand cancellations, contract cancellations and more.

• 54:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, equating to 1,086 per taxpayer, but faced scrutiny for inaccuracies such as claiming $8 billion in savings from an immigration contract valued at 8 million. With a BBC analysis finding only about half of the itemized uh, savings published by Doge were linked to receipts or other forms of evidence, some listed as unavailable for legal reasons. So that's Wall Street Journal and Forbes. I mean, you can say there's no credibility there, but I'm reading that story. This leads to the key, the ending, the conversation and the, the question about maybe some of the personal activities that he's having. Go ahead, Rob.

• 55:18Speaker 16

  Elon gave an incredible service. Nobody like him and uh, he had to go through uh, the slings and the arrows. Which is a shame because uh, he's an incredible patriot. The good news is that 90% of the country knows that and they appreciate it and they really appreciate what he did. And I gave him a little special something we have here. Thank you. A very special that I give to very special people. I have given it to some, but it goes to very special people and I thought I'd, I'd give it to Elon as a presentation from our country. Thank you. Thank you, Elon. Thank you. Take care of yourself. Thank you.

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• 57:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, so this leads to the black eye. There's a video showing the way Elon is moving. I think that's the one, the behavior. A lot of people questioning things. Go for it.

• 57:10Speaker 16

  It's a case we win. We can't lose that case because we have the right to make grants. We're not going to make any grants like that. But I don't think Harvard's been acting very nicely. I think Columbia wants to get to the bottom of the problem. They've acted very well. And there are other institutions too. They're acting.

• 57:26Adam Sosnick?

  That's the Doge father right there.

• 57:28Speaker 16

  A big shot.

• 57:28Adam Sosnick?

  And dreaming of space.

• 57:30Speaker 16

  Every three days we find another hundred.

• 57:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about that behavior.

• 57:36Adam Sosnick?

  Did you hear what he said about the black eye? Did you hear what he said? He got it?

• 57:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this son.

• 57:39Adam Sosnick?

  He says, yeah, you know, I was just wrestling with my son. And I said, yeah, you should punch him in the eyes. He just stuck me in the face. You ever have your? I know Tico likes to throw some punches. You ever punch you in the face?

• 57:50Speaker 05

  Well, I mean.

• 57:51Adam Sosnick?

  Highly doubtful.

• 57:51Speaker 05

  I mean, X, we were there was at the UFC fight till three o'clock in the morning. Awake watching.

• 57:56Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, but you think that you get a black eye from a four year old punching you in the face?

• 57:59Speaker 05

  I wasn't again, we don't know. The just true story, but from looking at that behavior. I mean, it could be two things. He just got fired and he's listening to the boss keep talking.

• 58:07Adam Sosnick?

  How much? How much credibility do you give to the fact that he's been running around with this quote unquote? Daily medication box filled with ketamine, ecstasy, mushrooms.

• 58:15Speaker 12

  Distraction. I mean, there's something really scary.

• 58:18Adam Sosnick?

  You don't think that has any credibility?

• 58:19Speaker 12

  I don't care about it because of how scary what actually I actually think happened here. I think that this is predatory because I think the Doge thing was a show because all he did was cut contracts, cut a few jobs, didn't touch defense, didn't touch Medicare, didn't touch social security. But what he did do was extract all of the data from the treasury, from all the government departments. And then makes a deal with Palantir.

• 58:39Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you know that that he did that?

• 58:41Speaker 12

  Which part?

• 58:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The extracted all the information.

• 58:43Speaker 12

  Because like they got the data to go through all of them.

• 58:45Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you know that though?

• 58:46Speaker 12

  Um, I mean, I researched it and asked chat GPT and it said like, yeah, they collected vast amounts of data. And I asked.

• 58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So you think he took the data from the citizens of United States to use in his own benefit long term?

• 58:59Speaker 12

  Well, the most important thing for when you're building an AI is to get good data and the biggest, most vast amount of data is what he had access to. So that's a pretty well-established thing is that he was able to acquire all that data. It's still really unconceivable like how much he actually got. But it seems that he plugged that into XAI and then you know merged XAI with X and then partnered with Palantir, which you know Palantir is like, we'll talk about that later. But that's like a straight up like CIA contractor that harvests our data and it's probably like the biggest data center in the world. So that's scary for a whole bunch of reasons, but it seemed like the degree to which he had no interest in even touching the things that are truly wasteful. Makes me think that this whole thing was about the data from the first place.

• 59:41Adam Sosnick?

  I think there's a different, I understand what you're saying. I think.

• 59:44Speaker 12

  Is it ridiculous?

• 59:45Adam Sosnick?

  I think Elon Musk got his little fix with working on the government, looked behind the curtain, said, uh-uh, I want none of this. Do you understand that in December of 2024, before the inauguration, Elon Musk was the richest man in the world, his net worth was 486 billion, almost a half a trillion dollars. Three months later, he lost 150 billion dollars. He was worth, he was worth 330 billion. Now the stock has just come back, back up. I think there's a part of, an element of his team around him that's like, bro, you're losing a billion dollars a day.

• 1:00:23Adam Sosnick?

  You don't think that he looks at his net worth and gives a shit that he lost 150 billion?

• 1:00:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pull up the Peter Doocy questioning of him, hey, there's stories about the drugs and all this other stuff and his response about New York Times and you know, Paul, you know, Winter, is this the one, Rob?

• 1:00:37Speaker 12

  Yep.

• 1:00:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Watch this.

• 1:00:38Speaker 15

  I didn't mention that you had to deal with all the slings and arrows during your time at Doge. There's this. Some of the people, you know, some of the media reputations in this room were the slingers. Well, so there is a New York Times report today that accuses you of blurring the line between. Is the New York Times, is that the same publication that got a Pulitzer Prize for false reporting on the Russiagate? Is it the same organization?

• 1:01:04Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, it is.

• 1:01:05Speaker 15

  I gotta check my Pulitzer, my Pulitzer counters.

• 1:01:07Adam Sosnick?

  It is.

• 1:01:08Speaker 15

  So I think, I think the judge just ruled against New York Times for their lies about the Russiagate hoax. And that they might have to give back that Pulitzer Prize. That New York Times? Let's move on.

• 1:01:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, that behavior, do you think he's using it? Do you think he's on stuff?

• 1:01:25Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 1:01:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Ketamine, do you think he... yeah, but guess what? Do you give a shit?

• 1:01:28Speaker 12

  No.

• 1:01:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't give a shit.

• 1:01:29Speaker 12

  No, I care much more about what he might have.

• 1:01:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, that's your business. It's like Glenn Greenwald. He's doing what in his personal life? You want to release a video because you want to use that as a waveform? I don't care what you're doing in your personal life. But, you know, if, if you have access to information and you are using stuff, and that information is given to you while you're on things, that is a problem.

• 1:01:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, because Adam, you said, he just came in, he has little thing, and no, no. If he's the, he's one of the most, I mean, he's the richest guy on, like, that we know. What do you think his motive was for putting all that money to the Trump administration to win? So Trump wins, he's the number one backer. Okay, yeah, he helped with Doge and everything, but there's other, I, I don't think Elon is getting, got worked or used, because Brandon's making good points. He's getting what he's getting out of this situation as well. Every week, there's another rocket being launched. They're doing low orbit satellites. Every week is another rocket being launched. He's setting up for something bigger, for all the robots.

• 1:02:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you happy he's no longer in the White House working with Trump?

• 1:02:28Speaker 05

  I'm, I'm indifferent. Well, here's the thing. They ruined his whole, you know, Tesla, I'm happy that the stock went up. But look at all the crap that he's had to go through just to help, hold on, just to help Trump win because he said that humanity was on the line.

• 1:02:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you glad he's out?

• 1:02:43Speaker 05

  I'm indifferent, it doesn't, me, it doesn't matter.

• 1:02:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you glad he's out?

• 1:02:46Speaker 12

  I'm, uh, no, I'm devastated that Doge was of, like, seemed like a fake operation. The guy was very excited about what it said it was gonna be and like what it was like talking about doing.

• 1:02:54Patrick Bet-David?

  What does Vivek look like now?

• 1:02:55Adam Sosnick?

  I was just gonna talk about Vivek.

• 1:02:57Speaker 12

  Running for governor of Ohio. Oh, you mean in terms of if he was right or wrong?

• 1:03:00Adam Sosnick?

  I think the big, the biggest issue...

• 1:03:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask my question.

• 1:03:03Adam Sosnick?

  No, I was really gonna talk about Vivek.

• 1:03:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I'll come to you. What does Vivek look like now? Now that this has taken place 100 days after Trump's administration with Doge?

• 1:03:11Adam Sosnick?

  I never understood that Elon Musk would be the person running Doge. You're already running... Tesla, SpaceX, and dozen other companies. You have Vivek, who's a rising star on the Republican Party, coming out. He was the first person talking about government efficiency. And all of a sudden Elon shows up, throws what? A quarter billion dollars behind Trump. And then he becomes dark MAGA and then ousts Vivek from basically the thing that Vivek almost started. It never made sense to me. It never made sense to me that basically just pushed Vivek out. And it became the issue about the H1B visa. Remember that whole drama that they had?

• 1:03:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:03:46Adam Sosnick?

  I didn't under, I thought Vivek would be the guy running this. I never thought for a million years that Elon would be the guy that would stay through this entire situation while running multiple companies, while basically trying to occupy Mars.

• 1:04:00Speaker 05

  But what was he doing, Adam? He hired a bunch of young nerds to run the show. It's not like he was punching in a clock. He had a little office, but it wasn't like.

• 1:04:07Adam Sosnick?

  Buddy, he was in the Oval Office every single day.

• 1:04:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Rob, watch this. Play this clip, play this clip.

• 1:04:11Speaker 17

  All right. Was there any drug testing or any requests for him to drug test when he was in the White House? Given the fact that he was also a contractor with the government?

• 1:04:19Speaker 18

  Fortunately, fortunately for you and all the friends at CNN, you'll have the opportunity to ask Elon all the questions you want today yourself. In the meantime, the drugs I'm concerned about are the drugs that are coming across the border from the criminal cartels that are killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. And we're going to save hundreds of thousands of lives if these district courts would just get the hell out of the way.

• 1:04:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there. So anyways, look, we'll see. A part of me is glad he's not in the White House. A part of me is glad he's not in the White House. And I don't think the president would have won without him. I think he needed him. I think he was a phenomenal flag carrier. I think he looks tired. Even he, who is the closest thing that we have to robot as a human being, he looks unhappy and wants to get back to fulfilling his vision, whatever that vision for him is, to knowing that he can never be the president of the United States. He's going to go and build his own vision and to be in pursuit of. But I love also how Trump handled the whole thing on the gentle, thank you for your contribution.

• 1:05:24Patrick Bet-David?

  He did great work, 90% of America.

• 1:05:28Patrick Bet-David?

  This whole transition was done in a very classy way. And you better believe he's still gonna be an advisor. They're still gonna be calling him. And I still think it has a possibility of getting very, very, very nasty. I hope it doesn't. This was a very smooth transition. I hope they stay here. All right, let's go to the next story here. Harvard has trained so many Chinese Communist officials. They call it their "party school." Rob, if you have this clip here from Wall Street Journal. They call it their "party school." Let me read this to you. So Harvard University in particular's Kennedy School of Government has been a key destination for Chinese Communist Party officials, earning the nickname "Party School" in China. As noted in 2014 Shanghai Observer commentary, "If we were to rank the Chinese Communist Party's overseas party schools,

• 1:06:11Patrick Bet-David?

  the one deserving top spot has to be Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government in the U.S." The Trump administration, led by Mark Ruby, announced by Wednesday "A plan to tighten visa criteria for Chinese students with Communist Party ties, potentially revoking visas for those in critical fields, prompting Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maoming to state 'seriously damaged the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese students.'" Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:06:36Speaker 19

  Meanwhile, as the Trump administration works to cap Harvard's foreign enrollment, a new Wall Street Journal report outlines how much the university has become a training ground for CCP leadership, all on the American taxpayers' dime. The list goes on and on. You have a former vice president, a former vice premier, the country's current top trade negotiator. They have all passed through Harvard's elite programs. According to the report, they affectionately call it their, quote, "party school," and not the party like the fraternity. It's raising serious questions about how much influence Beijing has gained inside our own institutions.

• 1:07:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 1:07:18Tom Ellsworth?

  So my first thought is this. Brendan. What's up? I tell you, listen, over the next 10 years, this is what I want to do. I want you to get... Twenty of our best and brightest students, and I want to get them into universities in Beijing, and I want them to study foreign policy over there, and I want them to, you know, assimilate with classmates and get really close to people. And really what we're gonna do is a shadow spy network. We're also gonna learn everything we can over there. Okay, you go over to China and try to do that. Mm-hmm. How many minutes does it take for them to throw you out on your ass? Yeah, in seconds. Seconds, correct. And we allowed it. So I look at it, Pat, we allowed this.

• 1:08:02Tom Ellsworth?

  We frickin' allowed it. You know, in the name of globalism, in the name of globalism, we allowed them to do what they would never allow us to do. Look at social media over there, over here. How many examples do we need? It shocks me that we are so shocked. There's my point.

• 1:08:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I love it. I love it. Brandon, your thoughts on this?

• 1:08:22Speaker 12

  Yeah, no, China's one of the biggest donors to Harvard. And Harvard's a weird thing where it gets like all these privileges from the government, where it's a tax-exempt organization, they got their big giant endowment. They, you know, they've had a lot of CIA work done there. So I think Harvard needs to have a lot more attention paid to it. And yeah, Tom's right, that we don't treat other countries the same way that they would treat us in a lot of these situations when it comes in terms of defying national security. Like, when I went to school, there were like kids who were from the Middle East who were driving Ferraris and stuff, that like their parents were like oil tycoons and whatnot. Like, in my national security classes, like, learning about, you know, like, how the CIA works and how the NSA works and everything. So it's ridiculous, it's a joke.

• 1:09:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And by the way, while this is going on, there's a story that comes out from Newsweek. Xi Jinping's daughter faces call to be deported from US. Laura Loomer called for the deportation of Chinese President Xi Jinping's daughter, Xi Mingzhi, claiming she lives in Massachusetts and went to Harvard, alleging PLA guards from CCP provide her private security on the US soil. Though no public evidence supports Xi's, Ming Xi's current US residency, as a New Yorker report issued, returned to China in 2015 after graduating from Harvard University. Loomer's allegations follow Secretary Marco Rubio's announcement that US will aggressively revoke visas for Chinese students. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:09:37Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's three things going on here. Number one, follow the money.

• 1:09:41Adam Sosnick?

  You import these international students, the best and brightest minds in the world. You train top talents and then you just send them back to their countries with all our culture, with all our information, and then just their countries reap the benefits for the four, five, 10 years that they spend in the United States? This to me is reverse ROI. So they get to build the future in their country, but learn it here in America. This makes absolutely no sense to me. If you're gonna have these people here, you keep them here and let them be an asset for America. And then you've come out to find that Xi Jinping, what's his job again? Oh, the communist dictator of China?

• 1:10:25Adam Sosnick?

  His daughter goes where? To Harvard? Are you flipping kidding me? You don't think she's reporting back to daddy? Unfreaking believable. Then you have the whole situation with, remember the fire results that the freedom, information of repressive expression, whatever it is? Basically what the least free university is in the world for as far as free speech? Harvard. So then you have the whole situation that's happening with Trump, the war that Trump is waging on Trump. I think he's basically hijacking or holding back $3 billion. By the way, Harvard has what? $50 billion endowment?

• 1:11:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:05Adam Sosnick?

  So there's a, there's a whole conversation of what's happening with Trump and Harvard. But there's no free speech. They indoctrinate, they don't educate. And this is my biggest problem with Harvard. They're raising a entire class of our citizens who not only don't love America, they don't barely like, barely like America. They hate America. And Harvard's supposed to be this bastion of free speech and this intellectual amazing community. And they seem to be like they hate America.

• 1:11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're getting more pressure today than ever before and rightfully so.

• 1:11:40Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Rightfully so is what's happening today right now. And I'm glad it is taking place to the point where Bill Maher blasts Trump. Blasts, backs Trump, blasts Harvard University in an asshole, it's an asshole factory. Watch this one, you go for it.

• 1:11:55Speaker 02

  Harvard situation, Trump has declared full-scale war on Harvard and like so many things he does, there's a kernel of a good idea there. I mean, I've been shitting on Harvard long before he was. You went to Cornell. That's not why.

• 1:12:17Speaker 02

  It's because Harvard is an asshole factory in a lot of ways that produces smirking fuckfaces.

• 1:12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Can this go to Harvard?

• 1:12:27Speaker 02

  He has three degrees from Harvard.

• 1:12:32Speaker 02

  Present company accepted.

• 1:12:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Triple.

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  Fuckface times three. Says the Dartmouth guy. But I could, I could name a lot of people. You know who I'm talking about.

• 1:12:43Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. I mean, when you get the sides on the left end agreeing with Trump on what's going on with Harvard, this is probably the worst season for Harvard. Harvard's not in a good place right now with everything that they're getting exposed with. Back to back to back. You know how some brands get a black eye? And then you wonder how they recovered from it? Like, you know, Budweiser, we saw them go through and until Dana White came and saved them. And I don't even know if they fully saved them yet or not. I don't know if they've recovered from it, right? You go through AIG, they got a black eye in 2008, they recovered from it. People forgot about what happened with AIG because of a great CEO, Bobby Moshe. I don't know how Harvard's gonna recover from this anytime soon. Because they're losing people from the left, the right, and the center.

• 1:13:25Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not just losing people from one side. They're losing people from all sides. So it'd be interesting to see how they make their next moves to get back in the market again of being an attractive place for parents to want to send their kids to school. So watch this. Freed Israeli Hostage says Hamas captors were rooting for Harris to beat Trump. Now, why would they be doing this? This is on CNN. And CNN is interviewing this guy, just got freed. Trying to get some gotcha information and he kept giving them the answer they did not want to hear. He was held hostage for 500 days before he was freed. Says the captain, "We're hoping Vice President Kamala Harris would win in 2024 presidential election," and here's why.

• 1:14:08Speaker 20

  Very scared of him. Yeah, they wanted, uh...

• 1:14:11Speaker 21

  Who?

• 1:14:12Speaker 20

  Terrorists.

• 1:14:13Speaker 21

  Were afraid of Trump?

• 1:14:14Speaker 20

  Yeah. They wanted Kamala to be chosen, to be elected.

• 1:14:18Speaker 21

  You talked politics with them?

• 1:14:19Speaker 20

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They wanted Kamala to be elected. When Trump came into, became president, yeah, the...

• 1:14:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You know CNN loves...

• 1:14:30Speaker 20

  The way they treated us changed. For me, personally, this is what I felt.

• 1:14:34Speaker 21

  I think because they anticipated that a deal would come soon.

• 1:14:37Speaker 20

  Yeah.

• 1:14:38Speaker 21

  And that's when they started giving you more food.

• 1:14:39Speaker 20

  Exactly. More food, treated me better, you know, stopped cursing me, stopped spitting me, spitting on me.

• 1:14:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, thoughts?

• 1:14:47Speaker 05

  I mean, just that right there just shows you how much respect and fear Trump had. The fact that terrorists have a hostage and they went from beating him up all the time, spitting on him, doing whatever, God knows what to him, to changing everything because they knew Trump was gonna put in. And I still, pal, I was thinking about this today, especially with whatever podcast we have coming up, the bullet that we dodged with Kamala Harris and the left and what they were pushing and all these fake-ass people like Jake Tapper all acting surprised about Biden and what they've been doing since 2016, and it's gonna keep going. What we've been dodging and what we've been fighting to get to where we are is insane. And I'm, it's, it goes beyond words to see what type of leadership that

• 1:15:32Speaker 05

  we have right now. And I just hope, uh, yeah, I just hope it keeps going. Thoughts?

• 1:15:36Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, the first question I have is how much credibility do you give to the hostage after he was released? Do you think he's telling the truth?

• 1:15:43Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:15:44Adam Sosnick?

  There's a lot of, there's a lot of, I would say 90% chance he's telling the truth.

• 1:15:47Speaker 05

  Why would he, why would he make it up?

• 1:15:49Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know. You know, I'm not saying that he's lying at all. I think there's a big component of this that, yes, Hamas and their backers would love to see a weak president named Kamala Harris in the Oval Office. I think... No doubt. I think Trump's a little frustrated that he hasn't gotten all the hostages out. I think Trump has used a lot of bluster and says, "All right, today's the day. If you don't have it today, oh, all right, next week." I think Trump has no problem setting deadlines and then basically sort of says, "All right, we're gonna send it. We're gonna give it another couple of days, couple of weeks. We'll see what happens there." There's still, I think, over 50 hostages in the tunnels of Hamas,

• 1:16:30Adam Sosnick?

  which leads us to basically what happened this past weekend when a illegal immigrant, I think, basically from Egypt, I want to say, basically went and set fire a Molotov cocktail in Boulder, Colorado. So they're coming to a city near you, whether you like it or not, and it's weird to me that, you know, anytime you see gays for Gaza, it's like this weird, like, marriage of the far left and the far right, who are both lost their damn minds, come together, and this is what you get. You want to play this clip? Do we have something?

• 1:17:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, let's stay on this. Hang on a second. Tom, your thoughts on this story?

• 1:17:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, I'm glad that-

• 1:17:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, Hank, Ty, we'll transition stories. Let's address stories and then we'll transition. Go ahead.

• 1:17:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I'm very glad that Omar Shemtav is, if I'm pronouncing his name correctly, is home, safe, and able to tell the story. I don't evaluate whether it's 92%, 90%, but it makes sense. And this shows you the importance of strong leadership on a world stage. If all we do is talk about what this guy said, and maybe they did, maybe they didn't, you're missing the fact that strong leadership on a world stage makes a difference in the world for everybody. And I believe what he's saying. I believe what others have said, that they wanted weak US leadership. They wanted Pablum coming out of the White House. That's what they wanted. And when you had strong leadership come in, I want those other 50 people home, and I want us to finish the job.

• 1:17:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Because people feared Trump when he came in, and they feared him for the right reasons, and I want to see this job finished, and I want those other 50 people like Omar Shemtav to come home.

• 1:18:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, um, so look, I mean, obviously what you like when we were talking about the four qualities, respect, love, like fear. When you see an interview like this, you want your leader to be feared by other countries. Nobody feared Biden, literally nobody. Yep. And nobody feared Kamala. No one did. No one feared Kamala. Quite the opposite. Quite the opposite, yeah. So they did want something like that. So for a guy like that to be in a White House that imposes fears on our enemies, you want that. You like that. That's a good thing for us to have. So now let's go to the next thing. Rob, if you want to put up the clip about this Egyptian, um, a fellow who, let me go through the exact story. Rob, can you tell me what Paige

• 1:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  just says as I'm going through it, if we have it here? Because it's a tragic, I mean, the fact that we knew this guy was gonna do what he was gonna do and we didn't do anything, like we knew this guy was out there. Here's a clip. Go ahead, Rob. Page of love.

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• 1:20:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Rob, can you give us a facts on what happened here? I have some details here. I don't know what page the story is on.

• 1:20:29Speaker 09

  Yeah, it's page 11, Colorado. It starts with Colorado. My apologies. Boulder, Colorado. Yeah, Colorado fire attack suspect plotted for a year, FBI says this according to the BBC page. I'm sorry, 13.

• 1:20:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, 13, not 11, yeah. So, so you see this and I look at him, I'm like, let me see the story about this guy, Rob. If you can go out there and just Google the following. Can you give me some facts about the terrorist in Colorado? Just go to chat GPT and type in, can you give me some fact, 10 facts? About the terrorist in Colorado, okay? And look what chat GPT will give you, just a fact. Background. Mohamed Sabri Solomon, a 45-year-old Egyptian national who has been residing in Colorado since, uh, uh, since, um, Aug, he got his, uh, he entered the US on a B1 visa, B2 tourist visa in August of 2022, which expired February of 2023. Although he applied for asylum in September of 2022 and received work authorization in March of 2023, his permit expired March of 2025,

• 1:21:27Patrick Bet-David?

  rendering his presence in the US unauthorized. Nature of the attack. Solomon attacked participants of a peaceful pro-Israel demonstration called Run for Their Lives at the Pearl Street Mall in Boulder. He used a makeshift flamethrower and malted cocktails, shouting phrases like "Free Palestine" and "End Zionists" during the assault. Casualties. 13 individuals ages 52 to 88 were injured in the attack, including an 88-year-old Holocaust survivor. One victim remains in critical condition. Solomon himself sustained injuries and was hospitalized premeditation. Solomon confessed to planning the attack for over a year, initially intending a mass shooting. He resorted to incendiary devices after being unable to purchase a firearm due to immigration status and conducted reconnaissance

• 1:22:13Patrick Bet-David?

  of the area in disguise and researched bomb-making techniques online. Motivation: During the police interviews, he expressed hatred towards Zionists and claimed he wanted to kill all Zionist people. He also indicted, indicated a desire to die during the attack, stating he had to do it and would not forgive himself if he did not do it. Legal charges. Solomon faces multiple charges, including 16 counts of attempted first-degree murder, federal hate crime charges, and possession of incendiary devices. He is being held on $10 million cash-only bond. Investigation status: The FBI is treating this incident as a targeted terrorist attack. Community impact, the attack has heightened anxiety within the Jewish community, already shaken by recent targeted attacks, including the fatal shooting of Israeli embassy aides in Washington DC.

• 1:22:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And alas, but all these political repercussions, Trump criticized current immigration policies, attributing the attack on Biden's administration, open door policy. So, something like this happens, Vinny, how do you process this when you see something like, a tragic event?

• 1:23:08Speaker 05

  Horrible, tragic, and just another result of an illegal person, whatever the hell you want to call him, overstaying his stay during the Biden administration. But what pissed me off the most about this story, Pat, is when it hit, I don't know if you guys were paying attention, how the mainstream leftist media covered it. Okay, the New York Times, Rob, you might be able to, they didn't call him an illegal, they wrote illegally entered the country, they put in quotations because they don't want to say it. Okay, and then Kill, I'm sorry, Ken Delaney at NBC blamed Elon Musk because the guy made a homemade flamethrower, as if he used Elons, the guy made it himself, and then MSNBC called him a white male.

• 1:23:50Speaker 05

  Okay, I don't understand, every time something like this happens, why are they so afraid to say that an illegal Muslim Egyptian, that's the guy, they always want to beat around the bush because it's, same thing with Keir Starmer in England and all the Pakistani rapists, Brandon? They never want to say it. And then, the worst one, Jamie Raskin pushed for gun control. Think about it, the guy's throwing Molotov cocktails and a flamethrower at older Jewish ladies because he hates Zionism, because the left pushes this shit really, really hard and brainwashes these people, he's pushing gun control. They're allergic to the truth.

• 1:24:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this?

• 1:24:26Speaker 05

  Which one is this, Rob?

• 1:24:27Speaker 09

  This is a video where MSNBC claims that the attacker was a white male.

• 1:24:31Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, yeah, can you play this?

• 1:24:32Speaker 22

  As far as the investigation itself, we're still trying to verify and confirm some video, but it appears to show a significant portion of the incident. As it happened, there's an individual that's taken into custody, he's a white male, whether or not that's the person.

• 1:24:48Speaker 05

  White male.

• 1:24:49Speaker 22

  Ultimately arrested and will ultimately charge in this crime.

• 1:24:52Speaker 05

  White male, and it's just weird. Yeah, you can stop, Rob. It just, it just. boggles my mind every time this happens you know what's going on you know what he's screaming you know what he's doing they never want to say this guy was a muslim dude yelling and and and hating jewish people and this I'm telling you this thing is starting to get out of control because it's happening more and more and more and tom homan came out a couple days ago pat and he was saying you guys do not have any idea what's coming this is thomas homan was you saw it thomas homan is saying even if you go try to get all these people do you know how many of these people remember that guy that we talked about that said soon you're gonna know who I am the guy that was a known terrorist and this is the clip with him I don't think america and buddy he's not a fear monger thomas homan is not the

• 1:25:36Speaker 05

  guy he just spitting facts is how it is you have no idea what's coming down the pipeline we're getting a taste of what these people are gonna do adam you you you like kinda touched on it this is it rob is this the clip the one that you sent yes is this him yep pack replay

• 1:25:50Speaker 23

  yeah of course let's get your first reaction your first public comments on this issue out in colorado

• 1:25:58Speaker 24

  you know me and you've been talking about this for years sean I mean I I worked for the network just before I came back to the second trump administration and and I've said over and over again you know what scares me about the southern border the sex trafficking right sky high the the americans dying from fentanyl the people you know all the drugs coming across all the sex trafficking all the all the smuggling and I said what concerned me the most was they created the biggest national security vulnerability this country's ever seen not only did two million known gotaways two million people cross the border we don't know who they are where they came from we don't know where they are now on top of that even through the legal process the biden administration were bringing people

• 1:26:43Speaker 24

  unvetted handing out handing out work fees elector candy

• 1:26:48Speaker 24

  While they sat here and playing something bad. We are going to be dealing with this for the next 10 years because of the chaos they created in four years.

• 1:26:56Speaker 05

  And then they got applause and I know Brandon wants to say something.

• 1:27:00Speaker 24

  Brandon, your thoughts?

• 1:27:01Speaker 12

  Yeah, no, so like, what the hell is the Patriot Act for? Like, we gave up everything, and supposedly, like, they could look at everything that we do, and this stuff happens constantly. Like, how is it that businesses can serve ads onto our phone, like, if it simply hears us say the name of a product, and we get flooded with ads, but you can't find somebody if they start typing in how to make a at-home fire, what you want to call it, like a flamethrower, or like, how do I perform a terrorist attack, or start typing in things that would automatically trigger that? Like, how do school shootings happen? How do terrorist attacks happen? Like, you know, they always say that we can't say how many attacks the Patriot Act has stopped because that's a matter of national security, but, like, was it even like a good trade-off? And, you know, we're like, working towards stuff that's more like the Patriot Act, but, you know, it's not showing a good return on, like, what we gave up in return for. We're like, it's supposed to be that we gave up, um, freedom in return for safety, but they're

• 1:27:46Speaker 12

  not showing that. Like, so, I don't know how the FBI let stuff like this happen, and they gave out government cellphones to these people who came across the border illegally. So how, like, again, how are they not able to track that stuff on their phones? It's crazy that this could happen.

• 1:27:57Speaker 05

  I think sometimes they're using those cellphones to let them know, like, hey, listen, whenever we need you, we're gonna hit you up, do what you have to do. That's, they did it to track them, but who knows how many of them that they let in that they're working for them? Like, hey, listen, when we need to, when everybody's acting too calm, and Trump's getting too popular, we're gonna give you a call, go here and do this.

• 1:28:15Speaker 12

  That was DHS, though. Like, this is new DHS, so like, you would think that they would, like, be doing different things with those, that cellphone data.

• 1:28:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, I'm saying, well, I mean, who knows what the hell they, you know what I mean? But those people have already been set up, and I'm telling you right now, they're just waiting. Those people are waiting, and this next three years is gonna be very, very scary and very interesting.

• 1:28:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Sometimes there's stories inside the story, and one of the things I looked at, and it's just like, Jamie Raskin, you know, why don't you come on and debate some of these things you're talking about? Because you go on there, and you're talking about gun control. He didn't have a gun. He was unable to purchase a gun, which means some gun laws apparently worked that prohibited from getting a gun to commit a mass shooting. And so, Jamie Raskin, you're out there running in the, you should be talking about Molotov cocktail control, or, or, you know...

• 1:28:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Basically vodka control because my understanding is that this was um he was using alcohol rubbing alcohol or you know high high proof uh you know um alcohol like you know remember you could get um all kinds of that make punch in college and it's flammable and that's what he was using because he was unable to purchase a gun so point one if he's unable to purchase a gun who said no you can't buy a gun because your status is a problem and why didn't at that point somebody come out and talk to him and say dude you just tried to buy a gun you know both your visas are expired yeah okay give me your hands click click and you know we're gonna send you off I don't I'd like to know how did those two things happen one is good he couldn't buy a gun but the other was who isn't that a flagging moment where we now come back and say what are we doing?

• 1:29:46Adam Sosnick?

  Adam.

• 1:29:47Adam Sosnick?

  Well, this is what they've been calling for. They've been calling for globalizing the Intifada, the revolution, and it's coming to our shores. This is my biggest concern for America. Forget about the fact that I'm Jewish. Whatever's going on in Israel, they're taking care of what they need to take care of against terrorists. What I'm worried about is New York. What I'm worried about is LA. What I'm worried about is Miami. What I'm worried about is Toronto. What I'm worried about is London, Paris, and cities all across the Western world because they have a very clear agenda. Tear down the West. That's it. So this whole global Intifada from the river to the sea when half the people can't even figure out what river or what sea they're even talking about, when they globalize the Intifada, then you have this guy, this Egyptian illegal who shows up in our country and what tries to burn down?

• 1:30:39Speaker 05

  Older Jewish ladies and people that are walking.

• 1:30:41Adam Sosnick?

  So and then he claims, you know, I don't hate Jewish people. I just I don't like Zionism. Tell me what the difference is, buddy. What's the difference? Because Zionism is a very simple definition. And believe me, I've been called a Zio a million times proudly. All it is is the belief that the Jewish people should have a homeland in the land of Israel. By the way, it already happened. It's here. It's done. So.

• 1:31:07Adam Sosnick?

  The whole concept of like, oh, you're just a Zionist or whatever it is, it's like, they just have a homeland. That's like saying, you know, the Vatican should be the home for Catholics.

• 1:31:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw a clip the other day, it was so funny. Rob, if you can pull this up. You know, the gays for Gaza, the whole movement that they're protesting for Free Palestine, Free Palestine. The gays for Gaza met their match, a Muslim woman that's really protesting for Palestine. It's like, hey, you're not our type. Get the hell out of here. Watch this.

• 1:31:45Patrick Bet-David?

  She doesn't want him there, huh? Imagine how weird this is. Like, yeah, come to Gaza, see what we do to you. With that flag up, you're funny. Yeah, so this transitions into, literally, transitions into the Pride Month, right? The whole thing about Pride Month, Pride Month, Pride Month, and all these sports teams are posting their Pride Month stuff and and you see the list, the list of teams that didn't. With one of them in the NFL report that came out. Rob, if you can tell me what page that's on, I know we have it somewhere here. I looked at it. That is in the addendum and that is page... Oh, here you go. You got it. So, new list exposes 12 NFL teams for refusing to post message, supporting Pride Month on social media. Can you imagine, like, now they're watching to see,

• 1:32:26Patrick Bet-David?

  and they better post it, you better post it, or we're writing an article about you, and we're gonna try to humiliate you, and making sure everybody knows that you guys don't get in line. And these teams are like, yeah, we don't really give a shit. So, June, as LGBTQ Pride Month is celebrated, 12 NFL teams have faced backlash for not posting messages. In stark contrast, when nine teams stayed silent, the current list includes Jets, Ravens, Bengals, Browns, Steelers, Colts, Titans, Chiefs, Raiders, Cowboys, Seahawks, Saints. Despite the league's shuffling to acknowledge LGBT pride, several fans have remained disengaged, illuminating the broader issue of inclusivity within the NFL players.

• 1:33:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Saints advocate for allyship and support emphasizing the need for more welcoming environment by the numbers 11 NFL teams did not post anything last year was nine okay nine so it's interesting it went from nine to 12 and in the MLB in MLB let me see if it was an NFL may face increased pressure to improve inclusivity and representation in light of public scrutiny regarding team response to Pride Month future campaigns may require teams to engage more actively oh my god give me a flipping break state of play players like Kalen Saunders are actively promoting inclusivity through initiatives like youth football camps culture within the NFL is perceived as predominantly heterosexual which limits the visibility of LGBTQ community and in baseball there's one team in baseball

• 1:33:55Patrick Bet-David?

  that's like look we're not playing why are the Texas Rangers the only MLB team without a Pride Night okay this is Minnesota Star Tribune the Rangers the only major league baseball team without a Pride Night stated are longstanding

• 1:34:09Tom Ellsworth?

  respect

• 1:34:10Patrick Bet-David?

  commitment remains the same to make everyone feel welcome and included in Rangers baseball and all ball our ballpark at every game and all we do for both our fans and our employees in September 2023 they invited LGBTQ groups to fundraising game but face protests from some fans the team's decision aligns with Texas conservative political climate led by Governor Abbott Texas politics dominated by Republicans saw Governor Abbott laws that save women's sports act barred bearing transgender college athletes from competing on teams matching their transgender their gender identity etc etc etc so good for the Rangers okay with this story taking place and you know Tom your thoughts you're a sports guy you you follow sports what are your thoughts about some of these teams taking the positions

• 1:34:53Patrick Bet-David?

  that they did and MLB being the one that says Rangers being the one that says that we're not playing this game

• 1:34:58Tom Ellsworth?

  well I looked at the NFL teams on a map and I thought it was very interesting and the bravest owners is the Jets New York Ravens Maryland Baltimore and the Seahawks in Seattle Washington

• 1:35:09Patrick Bet-David?

  yep

• 1:35:10Tom Ellsworth?

  and so I looked at those three and I said okay I can wow that takes a lot of guts for those owners and those blue states to say hey no Pride Night everybody else was in let's see two in Pennsylvania where you had you had Pittsburgh was there and then you had Ohio Indiana everything in Louisiana the Saints Dallas

• 1:35:31Tom Ellsworth?

  And everybody else was a blue state, you know, there were three blue states where he had brave owners and everything else, excuse me, was a red state. And so I think people also trying to take the quote that the Rangers gave, I thought was a beautiful quote. Because they said, we want everybody to come enjoy the game. And you know what? We're not going to do one night for you and one night for you and one night for you, one night for you. And I think it's great that teams recognize veterans. They have recognized Mother's Day and they had the pink socks, the pink bats. And you've got one team that says, you know what? I'm not buying into the pride thing. We're just gonna, we're gonna recognize moms, we're gonna recognize the military, we're gonna do all that. But the rest of it, you know, you want to protest outside, protest outside.

• 1:36:16Tom Ellsworth?

  But you know what? This is what I'm doing. That takes a lot of guts, as well as I think the Jets raving, the Seahawks owners took a lot of guts to say, you know, we're not doing that because all the other NFL teams were in red states. Where it's pretty easy to say in Dallas, hey, we're not going to support Pride Night. Okay, that's, that's not too difficult. And it's not to smear, you know, people with a different lifestyle. It's just, hey, you know, they're like, this is what we're gonna do. Everybody can come enjoy this here, but we're not doing special nights. Uh, Vinny, your thoughts?

• 1:36:45Speaker 05

  Um, well, uh, the LGBTQ community picked, uh, the one word that God warned us about. I don't want everybody to know that, okay? Pride, okay? That's not a coincidence. Pride is what comes before the fall in Tom and Samuel scripture, Proverbs, chapter 16, verse 18. Okay, that's a warning and we're watching it play out in real time every year. And you guys are gonna see this whole month, you're gonna see the streets of West Hollywood with literally butt naked men, with children, with parents bringing their children, walking around. It's like modern day Sanam Gomor. It's, it's ridiculous because I believe pride should be reserved for things that you would, you like earn or achieve or attain on your own. Okay, something that took discipline, something that took.

• 1:37:30Speaker 05

  Character, okay, not something that you do in a bedroom and then you demand the parade and an entire month of debauchery for, okay? You build something, you know, you serve your freaking country, you keep your word when it costs you, that's pride, okay? But being pride of your sexuality, that's not an achievement. What did you do? Like, you know, people are like, "I'm proud." It's like, okay, I, I respect the plight of what gay people have had to go through, okay? I have gay friends. I can only imagine the, and we've all seen it, from what they've had to go through, from the movie Philadelphia with Tom Hanks and everything, to get to the point where now you're accepting everybody's, nobody gives a shit if you're gay anymore, and I'm so happy for that. But to do what they're doing and, and to be like, the drag queen, uh, story hours in front of the kids and then walking in the streets, what you're, what you're dingaling, hanging out, and kids being there,

• 1:38:15Speaker 05

  it's like, now they shifted and now it's a whole different, uh, ballgame. And when it comes to, and I wanted to ask, because the Yankees, I'm a huge Yankee fan, I see all my freaking friends, I'm a hardcore, you know this Yankees fan. I just, I'm just curious, because the Yankees are doing the, the pride thing. What, would that be going on if Steinbrenner, George Steinbrenner, hands down one of the best owners, period, history of sports? Would he be letting this happen? Mind you, this is the guy, Tom, that fired people, managers, for losing streaks. For, you can't wear a beard, you can't, couldn't have a mustache. I'm just curious to what-

• 1:38:50Tom Ellsworth?

  You mean he had standards in his workplace? He had standards for performance? And if it didn't work, he just found someone else to do the job? How odd.

• 1:38:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, but so Tom, I want to ask you, Tom, honest to God, bro, like, you, you're a huge baseball fan. You know sports more than anybody I know. What is, is this happening with Steinbrenner behind the wheel?

• 1:39:09Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, I don't think it happens with George Steinbrenner behind the wheel. Because I think he says, "My business is baseball. Anybody wants to come to the ballpark, I'm gonna put a winning product on the team, on the field. You can come and see that and I'm gonna take care of you. You will be safe, you will be welcome."

• 1:39:25Speaker 09

  That's it. And then he'd be like, "I've talked about this too much. I gotta get back to worrying about my team." That's what Steinbrenner would have done.

• 1:39:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So guys were tagging me yesterday, left and right. "Hey, you know, how dare you have this position?" I said, "I'm an investor in a lot of companies that I'm not a majority owner of. If I'm not majority, I don't control the decision-making process of that company." And then immediately I posted a tweet, "Rob, if you can go to the tweet I put up yesterday." And it was direct about what we don't spend enough time talking about. It's all the way at the top. And I said, "I don't subscribe to Pride Month. What you choose to do with your personal life sexually isn't my business, nor do I need it advertised constantly. America would be a much better place if we spent more time recognizing fathers and mothers who go above and beyond raising kids. Being a parent is tough. It requires a lot of sacrifice. We need to get back to recognizing true heroes of the world.

• 1:40:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Strong parents who raise great independent leaders, strong parents, lower crime, lower taxes, lower confusion. Let's get back to celebrating great parents again. It's not a difficult task." Couple guys are like, "Well, we already have a Father's Day and a Mother's Day." And everybody responded back, "Yeah, a day." "You have a Pride Month." "And you have a day for fathers and mothers." We did a video a couple of years ago on how many days we dedicate to Pride Month. 145 days a year, but we give one Father's Day, one Mother's Day. It's double dumb, and it's to the point where an incident took place with, if you remember with, what's it called, with Olympics?

• 1:40:58Patrick Bet-David?

  The debate, J.K. Rowling, "Oh my God, how dare you claim that this fighter is a man, and shame on you." "You ought to be embarrassed of yourself." And you know what story came out, Rob? Do we have that story here with the boxer, or no?

• 1:41:13Speaker 09

  You do. That is on page...

• 1:41:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch the story, folks.

• 1:41:17Speaker 09

  That is page 19, Olympic boxer Amin Khalif.

• 1:41:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you remember this boxer? Amin Khalif, that we were supposed to believe is what?

• 1:41:26Speaker 09

  A female.

• 1:41:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Is a female, right? All of a sudden, story comes out, and look what the story says. The story comes out saying that the Olympic boxer, Amin Khalif, leaked lab results, offered new evidence about...

• 1:41:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Her biological sex leaked 2023 test results from Dr. Laupath Labs in New Delhi, credited by the American College of Pathologists, revealed that Olympic boxer Imran Khalif, 26, has a male karyotype with XY chromosomes, leading to her expulsion from the 2023 Women's Boxing World Championship in India by the Russian-controlled Boxing Authority, as reported by three Wire sports. Despite the test results, Paris 2024 Olympic leaders dismissed him as not legitimate, allowing Khalif, who denies being male, and insists she was raised a girl to compete and win gold, though Italy's Angela Carini, after a 46-second bout,

• 1:42:28Patrick Bet-David?

  feared for her life, and Mexico's Brianda Tamora Cruz recalled feeling unprecedented intensity in their prior fight, stating, "I don't think I had ever felt like that in my 13 years as a boxer." So now, can you, Rob, is there a clip on this thing here, or no?

• 1:42:44Speaker 05

  It's just a news article, reading what you said.

• 1:42:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go to J.K. Rowling's tweet, if you don't mind, and I'm gonna open it up to you guys. So this is J.K. Rowling, okay? Comes out and says, "I never said and never believed Khalif was trans. I knew he was a man." Damn. "The gender activists who created a political climate in which sex testing has been as bigoted are as culpable as the IOC for the travesty that ensued via highly credible sources who saw his test results." J.K. Rowling deserves an apology. Okay, there's another one as well, Rob, if you can go to the other one. Look at this one, what she posted. "Some Olympics will forever be defined by photos the organizer would have preferred not to be taken. Mexico City, 1968, Paris." Look at that. Do you know what that sign is?

• 1:43:31Speaker 05

  XY.

• 1:43:32Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. That's right. So, so your thoughts on this story?

• 1:43:35Speaker 05

  It's unbeliev- it's believably unbelievable. And, and, and mind you, that dude, that dude, Imran, was beating the crap out of women. Like, he was- Beating them like and God knows what's gonna happen, but you know what I mean? Like brain damage or whatever. He was whooping their asses and that that just that to me, that guy, cuz he's a guy, is a lazy, cheating piece of you know what? And it gets me sick that we still as a society at the level of the Olympics, they're they're turning the eye, they're turning the shoulder and saying, let let it happen. It actually it drives me crazy and it's not just on the world stage. What about California? The um, the you guys know who just crushed the the the beat the shit out of a bunch of girls in California?

• 1:44:18Adam Sosnick?

  AB Hernandez?

• 1:44:19Speaker 05

  Sixteen year old boy. Okay, let's just stop right there. Trans all this all this thing about transphobic. We're not transphobic, we're trans-austed. We are sick and tired of this shit. I'm I can't believe we're still talking about it. All right, he's a boy. Go play with the boys, you're just lazy.

• 1:44:36Adam Sosnick?

  What's this here?

• 1:44:37Speaker 05

  This is thi- this is a dude. This is a guy.

• 1:44:40Adam Sosnick?

  Which one's a dude?

• 1:44:41Speaker 09

  Uh, the one in the white and green shirt all the way in the back, the very tall individual. And you can actually hear people yelling that during the track meet.

• 1:44:49Adam Sosnick?

  Let's play it, play it.

• 1:44:53Speaker 05

  That's not him in the middle, he's on the outside.

• 1:44:55Adam Sosnick?

  Way back.

• 1:44:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, look at look at him, look at him go.

• 1:45:03Adam Sosnick?

  That's a dude, playing dude.

• 1:45:05Speaker 05

  Ready for this?

• 1:45:06Adam Sosnick?

  Playing the dude.

• 1:45:07Speaker 05

  He's competing as a girl. He took first place in the high jump, triple jump and second, by the way, second cuz you suck. A girl actually beat his ass. Wow. Yeah, exactly. And the long jump at the California State Championship. And what did the CIF uh CIF do? They handed out extra medals like it was freaking a Chuck E. Cheese birthday party, okay? Shame on every single parent cuz this this message has to be said back. Every single parent that is there and standing and saying, live live your truth and do your thing, girl. You are delusional, okay? You are what?

• 1:45:37Adam Sosnick?

  Which one is the dude?

• 1:45:38Speaker 05

  That's the dude in the middle.

• 1:45:39Adam Sosnick?

  The one in the middle with the mustache?

• 1:45:40Speaker 05

  The middle with the weird teeth and and the light, the light makeup. And I know we're kind of being funny, but shame on those parents clapping and pushing this insanity.

• 1:45:48Adam Sosnick?

  Let me guess, let me guess, this is most likely in California.

• 1:45:51Speaker 05

  It's 100% California. You don't reward this.

• 1:45:54Speaker 09

  Oh, you got it on the first guess.

• 1:45:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, there it was.

• 1:45:57Patrick Bet-David?

  By the by the way, you know, you know, as you're going through this. And you see why in 2024, they lost as bad as they did. Because this is common sense. Sesame Street comes out with this episode. Rob, play it, we'll just react to it and we'll see what happened to it. Watch this Sesame, this just came out, right?

• 1:46:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:46:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You tell me, parents, if you're watching this, if this is for kids, okay? Tell me if this is for Govinny.

• 1:46:21Speaker 05

  I know, I'm sorry to cut you off. Listen to what he is saying. Listen to the words, I don't know what the hell is on his head, uh, small bananas or whatever. Just listen to the words that he says about what the situation is. Go ahead and play that.

• 1:46:35Speaker 03

  Ellen looked just like Jonathan Van Ness. That is Jonathan Van Ness. Elmo Cookie, are you ready to see my monster piece?

• 1:46:45Speaker 05

  Monster piece.

• 1:46:48Speaker 03

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• 1:46:52Speaker 03

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• 1:47:47Speaker 05

  Okay, so let's say, here's the truth. This isn't about love, this isn't about respect. This is about grooming freaking kids under the rainbow flag. Plain and simple. Indoctrination. That's all it is. And Rob, show the, look at, Pat, this is their, this is their tweet yesterday. On our street, everybody is welcome. Together, let's build a world where every person and family feels loved and respected for who they are. Happy Pride Month. All shaking hands with different colors to do the thing. Bro, these kids should be learning about counting, about hopscotch and like playing games. Teaching this shit to them at this age about sex and all this stuff and it's 100% wrong. And I hope to God, we as a society, figure it out sooner or later and stop this freaking nonsense.

• 1:48:30Speaker 05

  This Pride Month is complete bullshit. I don't think any of it means anything. It's just a month to just go out and do debauchery shit, take your clothes off and act stupid and try to groom our children. I think it has to stop. Yeah.

• 1:48:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you this.

• 1:48:42Speaker 05

  How many girls have to get hurt?

• 1:48:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you this. Don't, don't move the tweet at all, Rob. Don't move the tweet at all. Vinny, how many likes you think this tweet got? Likes and retweets. Give me likes and retweets. Likes. You know, you do a tweet, you get 500 likes, 1,000 likes. How many likes did this tweet get from Sesame Street? Their account has only 1.8 million followers. How many likes you think this got? 20,000.

• 1:49:04Speaker 12

  2,000.

• 1:49:05Patrick Bet-David?

  2,000, Tom, what do you say?

• 1:49:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I'd say I'm probably saying higher than that. I'm gonna be like 35 to 50,000.

• 1:49:11Speaker 05

  Very low. Nobody's interested.

• 1:49:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you say?

• 1:49:14Speaker 05

  500.

• 1:49:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You ready? Show it, Rob. 432,000 likes.

• 1:49:19Speaker 05

  Wow. What?

• 1:49:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly.

• 1:49:21Speaker 05

  What is that saying?

• 1:49:21Patrick Bet-David?

  64,000 retweets.

• 1:49:23Speaker 12

  Virtue saying.

• 1:49:24Patrick Bet-David?

  It's still a problem.

• 1:49:25Speaker 05

  100% I agree. I was way off. I thought people were.

• 1:49:28Patrick Bet-David?

  It's still a problem.

• 1:49:29Speaker 12

  It should be like Big Pharma ads though, the way that we, Big Pharma ads should be illegal. Like it should be illegal to promote and push this stuff and like sort of talk about in a public promotional way. Because it's like got an infectious nature to it if you, because you like try to, they're trying to convince people that they're gay. That's why that number's going up.

• 1:49:44Speaker 05

  Well, and well, you know, the truth is too, and this is the fact that I'm sorry, I'll, I'll, I'll give it right back to you. It's like, like, and this is a fact. Mind you, I mean, Adam, we don't have any kids, but the thing is, the gay people can't have kids. So they need your kids. That's how they multiply. They're not having kids of their own. I mean, I said Pete Buttigieg and them where they're freaking, you know, buying, adopting, whatever the hell you want to call it, which God knows what the hell happens there. But this is the plan and I'm, I'm shocked at that number, Pat. I thought, I thought it was gonna be way lower, way lower.

• 1:50:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The point is, they have so much influence. That's 432,000 people that click like on it. 18,000 comments. So if you want to say it's fake, 18,000 comments, 22.3 million views, 64,000 retweets. Why would 432,000 people like this?

• 1:50:33Speaker 12

  Virtually.

• 1:50:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Because people are still out there that are supporting this.

• 1:50:36Speaker 12

  1,000%.

• 1:50:36Patrick Bet-David?

  To me, this is criminal. This is not even, you know, a retard finder, whatever that Twitter. You see it at the bottom. Can you go a little bit lower to see sickening? You just made the list, F and retards. Having an empty plate says you're going to go to, go a little bit lower. That's, that's an ad. This is grooming is criminal. This is perversion. Go to, add hot dogs to all the hands. Okay, keep going lower. Okay, and this is what, if this image is Elmo, worshiping King Jesus gets more likes than your post. You have to tweet back, crisis lord, I don't make the rules. Let's see what it does. Not as much. Yeah. There, there is influence, man. There's a lot of influence with this taking place, but this is absolutely criminal. Adam, you have any thoughts on this?

• 1:51:16Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I got a lot of thoughts on this. So, you know, I'm reading this wonderful book right now. It's called, this book is gay right here. Here's where I'm at with this.

• 1:51:23Speaker 12

  Huh.

• 1:51:24Adam Sosnick?

  I have no problem with gay people. I have no problem with lesbian people. I have no problem if you're confused and you're going kind of both ways. The B. The biggest problem I got is with the T. The T, if you ever see Dave Chappelle's kid, he's like, you know, we're all going down the car, trying to take this road trip. They got the L, they got the G, you got the B, and the T is making it a lot longer of a trip for everybody else. Cause in my opinion, this thing ended in 2015. Obama, president, the White House was gay, all the colors, the flags. Congratulations, you did it. And then in my opinion, what happened is they said, why are we stopping here? We have the L, we got, we got the G, we got the B. We gotta go for the T.

• 1:52:08Adam Sosnick?

  So for the last 10 years, we haven't even heard anything about gay stuff. Yeah, go, go do your stuff. It's been all this trans stuff. So all these government NGOs, all these basically organizations that were pushing and pushing and pushing, follow the money, as I always say, pushing to get gay marriage approved. It happened. What do you think happened to all those organizations? What do you think happened to all those people, all those people that were employed? Do you think they just, alright guys, we did it? They said, let's go for the next one. Let's get the tea out there. And that's why for the last 10 years, we've seen so much of this tea stuff. I have gay friends, I don't give a crap. But if he's a dude, he likes other dudes, he's not like, well, maybe I'll cut off my dick today. I don't know, I'm not sure. No, he's just gay.

• 1:52:49Speaker 12

  Yeah. Was it a mistake to legalize gay marriage though?

• 1:52:52Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not, that's not my opinion. If they want to legalize gay marriage, it is what it is, Supreme Court did it.

• 1:52:56Speaker 12

  That's what led to this.

• 1:52:56Adam Sosnick?

  But if you're gay, be gay. You have equal rights, you have civil rights. But why are we all supposed to have a parade? Cause you're a dude that likes other dudes? Or a chick that likes other chicks? I don't get it. Like, it's as absurd to me as throwing us a parade, cause I'm a guy that likes girls. You think we're gonna get a parade for that? Think I'm gonna get a round of applause? Cause I'm a dude that likes women? It doesn't work that way. So why am I throwing a parade for you as a guy that likes other guys? Go for it, I don't care. It's all good. Why is your entire identity wrapped around your sexual orientation? It makes no sense to me. So a lot of it that I have an issue with is the trans stuff. A lot of boys are girls, girls are boys. Boys are playing in women's sports in the Olympics.

• 1:53:40Adam Sosnick?

  Dudes are knocking out chicks. Yeah, of course, everyone's welcome to live the life you want. Just stop pushing it down all of our throats.

• 1:53:49Speaker 12

  No pun intended.

• 1:53:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I went online just to kind of see when Sesame Street started supporting LGBTQ. And it says that the first explicit public support was in 2021. June of 2021, during Pride Month, Sesame Street aired an episode titled Family Day. That introduced the show's first openly gay couple, Dave and Frank, along with their daughter Mia. This marked a significant milestone in the show's history, showcasing a family with two dads as part of the diverse representation of family structure. Again, 2021. Was when covid was crazy, people were doing crazy shit, they joined it, right? Prior to that, Sesame Street has included subtle nods to LGBTQ inclusivity. In 1981, a song called "We All Sing With The Same Voice",

• 1:54:34Patrick Bet-David?

  featuring lyrics like "I've got one daddy, I've got two." This is in 81. Who's president 81? Is it Carter? Or is it Reagan? I think Reagan. Reagan is already president, 79, yeah Reagan, uh, uh, it could be, I, I, I think you're right. 81, no, 81 is a... Oh, stole Carter? Uh...

• 1:54:52Speaker 09

  No, it says, uh, from 1981 to 89, Reagan was in office.

• 1:54:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, it depends on what month this happened in, the song that they came up with. Yeah. And, uh, and then I asked, I said, "Tell me, tell me about the founders of Sesame Street and what their values and principles were." Primary founder was Joan Gans Cooney. Uh, pretty bad last name in Farsi, but can you even if ever find out who this Joan Gans Cooney is? Uh, television producer and visionary, co-founder of Children's Television Workshop. I mean, the last name in Farsi makes sense if you only knew what that... Was it bad? That's exactly what it means.

• 1:55:27Speaker 05

  It's exactly what it means in Farsi.

• 1:55:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, wow. Cooney means gay.

• 1:55:31Speaker 05

  Oh, my god.

• 1:55:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So, we've known this, Iranians have known this for decades. I mean, it's just they haven't talked about it. Weird. So, Jane, Joan Gans Cooney, uh, creator and driving force behind the educational vision. Uh, Lloyd Morissette was a co-founder and psychologist, helping secure funding and research. Jim Hansen was a creator of Muppets, his character, the Kermit, Big Bird and Cookie Monster. Joan Gans' religious beliefs was raised Roman Catholic, but later described herself as a non-practicing culturally Catholic. Her work and public life have focused more on education, media and social impact. So, she, she made it secular. Sesame Street has, was intentionally designed to be secular, inclusive and multicultural. Not surprised, there you go.

• 1:56:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there anything we have here, Rob, about the founder that we can look into? On how this, so she married Tim Cooney first, and then she married Peter G. Peterson. Um, type in who Peter G. Peterson is? Who is this guy zooming a little bit? Peter Peterson, okay buddy. What did he do, private equity, Lehman Brothers, United Secretary Commerce? Go a little bit lower to see political affiliation. He co-founded Blackstone. He co-founded Blackstone, David Rockefeller preceded. Go a little bit lower, interesting these connections. Wow. Uh, political party, Republican, he was Chris Crangel. That marriage didn't work out, can you go back? Go back Rob, so she was married to him, no, no, marriage husbands.

• 1:56:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Tim Cooney, he died in eighteen, so they were married. Very interesting. Go a little bit lower Rob, can you go a little bit, early education. Yes, moved, type of State Department, she was exposed to Father James Keller's Christopher movement, which inspired her to get involved in television media. Cooney later said, Father Keller said that if idealists didn't go to the media, non-idealist would. She returned to Phoenix and despite no experience in journalism, got into it, da-da-da-da-da. And, uh, in nineteen fifty-six, after many years of depression, Cooney's father committed suicide at his home in Phoenix. That had influence on her, while Cooney was working in the US Steel Harbor. Go a little bit lower Rob, a little bit lower, a little bit, we're taking a pay cut. Cooney first boss, Leonard Freeman, nineteen sixty-four, she was thirty-one, married to Timothy Cooney,

• 1:57:43Patrick Bet-David?

  a staff member of New York Mayor, Robert Wagner Jr. They met while she was working on A Chance of the Beginning. Go a little bit lower Sesame Street, and keep going a little bit lower, lower, lower, lower, lower. Let's see if there's anything tied to her. Later years. Yeah, interesting.

• 1:58:00Speaker 05

  Did you know, did you know also Pat, that, um, this isn't a fun fact, but it is a fact. The original voice of Elmo, uh, Kevin Clash, from nineteen eighty-four to two thousand and twelve, resigned after four men accused him of sexual misconduct, and the claims of some relationships began when they were minors.

• 1:58:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's this?

• 1:58:16Speaker 05

  The original voice of Elmo, Kevin, uh, Clash, he was, he admitted to a relationship with the first accuser, but said it started when he was of age. Sesame Workshop initially supported him, but they cut ties as more lawsuits came. None of them let the criminal charges, but you know, some were dismissed due to expiration of, uh, statute of limitations. So, that, the, it was a black guy named Kevin Clash, he was the voice. A bunch of guys came forward and accused him allegedly of hooking up when they were minors and he was.

• 1:58:46Adam Sosnick?

  I don't believe it, Vinny. You're telling me that a grown man who makes his career putting his hand up a puppet's asshole is gonna end up, end up doing weird gay things on the side? No way!

• 1:58:56Speaker 05

  Adam, I hate to.

• 1:58:57Adam Sosnick?

  I'm sorry.

• 1:58:57Speaker 05

  Allegedly, allegedly, that's what was happening and he was the, he was the first voice and he's gone and somebody named Ryan Dillon took his.

• 1:59:05Adam Sosnick?

  Next thing you're gonna tell me that Bert and Ernie weren't just buddies living in the same house?

• 1:59:08Speaker 05

  No, they were gay.

• 1:59:09Adam Sosnick?

  What?

• 1:59:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go.

• 1:59:11Adam Sosnick?

  Bert and Ernie? Unbelievable.

• 1:59:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Hmm, hmm, hmm, you know. Just stick me to that song for a second, guys. Let me come back and stay focused here. Alright, let's go to the next story. Guys, according to Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, there's video footage of Epstein killing himself.

• 1:59:28Adam Sosnick?

  Hmm.

• 1:59:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And Rob, if you can play this clip. Is this the one, Rob?

• 1:59:31Speaker 26

  Yes, sir.

• 1:59:32Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not the clip of him killing himself.

• 1:59:33Speaker 26

  No, no, no.

• 1:59:34Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is him telling us that there's a clip of it and he's gonna release it to us. Go forward, Rob.

• 1:59:38Speaker 26

  Those two cases obviously are of significant public interest. I'm just telling you what we see in the file. I am, I just wanna be crystal clear on this. I am not asking anyone to believe me. I'm telling you what's there and what isn't. Right. There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case and there's gonna be a disclosure on this coming shortly. We are working through some, there is video. That is something the public.

• 2:00:04Patrick Bet-David?

  There's video of him killing himself?

• 2:00:05Speaker 26

  No, no, not, not the actual act. No, no, no. The entire MCC Bay, it was only one camera. There were other, there's video that when you look at the video and we will release, that's what's taken a while on this. We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced, and we're gonna give the original so you don't think there were any shenanigans. You're gonna see there's no one there but him. Right. There's just nobody there. So I say to people all the time, if you have a tip, let us know. But there's no DNA, there's no audio, there's no fingerprints, there's no suspects, there's no accomplices, there's no tips, there is nothing. If you have it, I'm happy to see it. There's video clear as day. He's the only person in there and the only person coming out. You can see it.

• 2:00:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's him, and then there's a video of Cash Patel as Rob. If you can play that one as well, go for it.

• 2:00:53Speaker 27

  There are. The Epstein thing, you dealt with Maria, you said, "As far as you know, he killed himself."

• 2:00:58Speaker 28

  I'm telling you, he killed himself.

• 2:01:00Speaker 27

  The other thing on the internet is the Epstein files. What's the answer to that?

• 2:01:06Speaker 28

  The answer to that is the same as everything else. I'm not going to withhold information from the American public, ever. But I'm also not going to rush to get it out there in a format in which they can't rely on it. So on the Epstein matter, or any other matters, we are diligently working on that. And it takes time to go through years of investigations, years of political maneuvering, and years of cover-up to get the American people what they deserve. And that's what I'm gonna give them, on everything.

• 2:01:35Speaker 05

  Then how could you know, after saying that, then how could you know all the information given to you, now that you're the new FBI guy, is even valid? They've been touching it, and editing it, and fixing it, and we have to keep waiting for these videos? Guys, let's just all agree, we're never gonna find out, okay? You're not gonna know shit, you're not gonna see any video, nothing's gonna be... The only solace you're gonna have in your heart of hearts is that God takes care of anybody that was messing with children. That's it. We're not gonna get any justice, these poor kids that were freaking raped, and some of them probably murdered, and God knows what else, sex slaves and whatever, they're never gonna get justice, cuz that's how this system is freaking set up, and that's how these disgusting, demon pedophiles work, Pat. You're never gonna see it, Ben.

• 2:02:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Brandon, what do you think about this?

• 2:02:20Speaker 05

  Never!

• 2:02:21Speaker 12

  No, they run the world, unfortunately. It seems like the sad truth is that like, pedophiles are the most powerful people in the world somehow. I mean, you know, with the Franklin cover-up, that was the same thing as the Epstein, the same model, but nothing happened with that, it was ran by political elites, allegedly. Then the Finders cult, that was, you know, grabbing young kids, and they had underground tunnels and stuff in DC, allegedly, nothing happened with that. Same thing, like, the intelligence told people to back off, both times with Epstein, and intelligence told people to back off, Jim Acosta said that. So, for whatever weird reason, I mean, with Cash Patel's talking there, he literally looks like he's doing a skit where he's trying to act like he's like nervous and being evasive. So, he looks terrified, Dan Bongino looks like he's in physical pain every time he goes on camera, so, feel bad for Dan, he got kinda like swept into this, he didn't wanna say no to Trump, I get that, so he's in a tough spot.

• 2:03:06Speaker 12

  Cash, yeah, I think he had no idea what he was in for, but yeah, I mean, it seems like the sad truth is, for some crazy reason, the most powerful people in the world are pedos. Tom, thoughts?

• 2:03:16Tom Ellsworth?

  I just look at two guys I respect. I respect Cash, I respect Dan. And I look at them and they don't look comfortable. And you know, it's like, you know, I feel like when we looked at Biden, he, that doesn't look right. That doesn't look right. He looks like an older gentleman that is in the throes of dealing with something. And when you look at them, the eyes don't lie. The human intuition doesn't lie. And I look at this and I'm like, you know, gosh, you guys don't look comfortable. And you've been, for three weeks now, you're trying to sell the story and you just don't look comfortable. And I'm not picking on the integrity of people that have been on the podcast. We know these guys. But you don't look comfortable. And it makes me very uncomfortable that you don't look comfortable.

• 2:04:00Tom Ellsworth?

  And I go back to the following. Between the Warren Commission and a couple of years later, there's a portion of Kennedy's skull that had a serial number on it. It's gone. There's a portion of Kennedy's brain that is gone. There was other artifacts that were from Bethesda, from the autopsy. They were gone. And so it's like they cleaned everything up. It is an absolute historic fact that they cleaned things up after the Kennedy assassination. So if there were some people that are on that list that don't want to be that list to be read out loud in front of a camera of the public, then they're in there scrubbing. And I feel like the longer anything goes, Pat,

• 2:04:39Tom Ellsworth?

  there's opportunities to scrub. And history shows us that criminals in high places are able to get in and scrub. So if there's something there and there's people on that list, and we know there are, the longer this goes, it's just time to scrub. And I'm just, I'm very uncomfortable looking at two guys that appear very uncomfortable.

• 2:04:56Adam Sosnick?

  I only have one question, and that's how much do you believe Cash Patel and Dan Bongino? Because Dan Bongino and Cash came out and said, I know that you don't want to believe this. I know that there's a lot of people who think otherwise. But I'm telling you, Epstein killed himself. Now, there's a lot of people who are like, alright. Case closed, buddy. I guess I'll stop asking questions now, which I totally get. But I said this the last time. These guys had a lot of credibility just a month ago, two months ago, three months ago. Everyone was rooting for these guys. Everyone loved these guys. Everyone loved Dan Bongino. Everyone thought Cash Patel was the man. All of a sudden, they're liars? Which one is it?

• 2:05:38Speaker 12

  They're stuck.

• 2:05:38Adam Sosnick?

  Is it?

• 2:05:38Speaker 05

  No, they're stuck. They're not liars.

• 2:05:40Adam Sosnick?

  In your opinion?

• 2:05:41Speaker 05

  They got in your opinion.

• 2:05:43Speaker 12

  There's other weird things around this.

• 2:05:44Adam Sosnick?

  So, but let's separate two things.

• 2:05:46Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:05:47Adam Sosnick?

  Is child pedophilia and trafficking children a problem and disgusting and horrible?

• 2:05:52Speaker 05

  Big problem.

• 2:05:53Adam Sosnick?

  And needs to be identified and called out and prosecuted to the full extent? 100%?

• 2:05:57Speaker 05

  Put that to the side.

• 2:05:58Adam Sosnick?

  100%.

• 2:05:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:06:00Adam Sosnick?

  Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Epstein, it's a separate issue to me.

• 2:06:03Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:06:04Adam Sosnick?

  So not always, they need to find the guy. Okay, we get that. But in this situation, don't you think these guys have credibility?

• 2:06:10Speaker 12

  No.

• 2:06:10Adam Sosnick?

  We're either saying that they're liars or not.

• 2:06:13Speaker 12

  No, they're stuck. They're not allowed to say this.

• 2:06:15Speaker 05

  There's a difference between lying at them and coming in.

• 2:06:18Adam Sosnick?

  You're telling me that a month ago, they had ultimate credibility and now they have not?

• 2:06:22Speaker 05

  I didn't say that. I didn't say, no, no, no, I'm not saying that.

• 2:06:24Speaker 12

  No, they intended to do it a month ago, but now they're not allowed to because there's powerful forces that are stopping them from doing it.

• 2:06:29Speaker 05

  They had exactly that. They had, they made promises, Adam.

• 2:06:31Adam Sosnick?

  So you're saying that when anyone gets to Washington, they get corrupted, they get bought, they have to sell out?

• 2:06:36Speaker 05

  No, Adam, not corrupt.

• 2:06:37Adam Sosnick?

  They're saying that everybody is basically not immune to the swamp of these.

• 2:06:42Speaker 05

  Adam, one makes somebody, Adam, here's the thing. I want, they want justice. I frigging, I've hung out with Dan Bongino. He's the G. We've seen, we've met Cash Patel. That's not that. They made these promises and I understand that. But then once you show up to the dance and you see everything and now you're changing the tune and you can't say it? We're not saying that they're lying. We're just saying, and Brandon made a great point, that the most powerful people in the world, some of them, are not only pedophiles, but the people that control them, that have them on camera, doing that demonic shit, have them by the balls and those people run the show.

• 2:07:16Speaker 12

  Like they would probably, they would probably threaten to kill them for exposing this stuff. Like there's a, the guy who was the CIA director, told a senator to back off at one of these situations with the Franklin cover. He said, there's powerful forces that will kill you if you continue to pursue this. And then just for saying that, for worrying that guy, that guy wound up dying.

• 2:07:33Adam Sosnick?

  So I'm just.

• 2:07:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your position, Adam?

• 2:07:35Adam Sosnick?

  You're a believer or not? I'm not flip flopping on Cash and Dan Bongino.

• 2:07:40Speaker 05

  Who's flip flopping? We're not saying they're lying. We're not saying they're lying, Adam.

• 2:07:45Adam Sosnick?

  You just did.

• 2:07:45Speaker 05

  I did not say that they're lying. Rewind the tape. I never said that they were lying. They made promises, but now they've been talked to, Adam, and they can't release it.

• 2:07:55Adam Sosnick?

  Well, they're a lot.

• 2:07:56Speaker 05

  They're being told not to do it.

• 2:07:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Brendan said it's stuck. He said Epstein killed himself. He said it's stuck.

• 2:07:59Speaker 05

  Stock is not lying.

• 2:08:00Adam Sosnick?

  He said Epstein killed himself. Do you believe Epstein killed himself?

• 2:08:03Speaker 05

  I don't know, Adam. I haven't seen the video, because we're never gonna see.

• 2:08:05Adam Sosnick?

  Nobody see the video, huh?

• 2:08:06Speaker 05

  He has. He's seen it a thousand times. Adam, they're sitting here, by the way, this is from Pam Bondi's mouth.

• 2:08:11Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think Epstein killed himself? Just answer the question.

• 2:08:13Speaker 05

  I don't know. I don't know, Adam, and that's the problem.

• 2:08:15Adam Sosnick?

  All of a sudden, you don't know?

• 2:08:16Speaker 05

  Because they know. They know. And here's the problem, Adam. There's FBI agents right now from Pam Bondi's mouth, watching tens of thousands of hours of Epstein and his boys having sexual underage kids, okay? Tens of thousands. Where are the arrests? How much research do you need? There's a camera. Oh, there's a guy. That's Fred. Go arrest his ass. What are we doing? What are we talking about? How long is it gonna go?

• 2:08:39Speaker 12

  And the suicide doesn't even matter. Like, who cares? He probably did kill himself. It doesn't even matter. Like, what matters is that they're letting all those people keep doing what they were doing before. So, like, they don't seem to either be interested in it, or they don't seem to be able to pursue it because of whatever threat they're...

• 2:08:51Adam Sosnick?

  Best point you've made all day, Brendan, is that separating the actual issue from the, basically, the "look over here Epstein" situation. Killed himself, not killed himself, was there a guard there? What was going on? Did he have a roommate? To me, that's all just basically a mirage for the bigger problem that's going on.

• 2:09:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:09:08Adam Sosnick?

  And there's an airplane apparently taking off.

• 2:09:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's a plane. That's what happens when you're on an airport. It does nothing for me.

• 2:09:15Speaker 12

  It's a big one.

• 2:09:15Patrick Bet-David?

  But, listen, when you get the job and you get in, when you get a job and you get in, nobody has a clue what happens until you get in. No one knows. Everybody acts hard until you're on the front lines. What did Mike Tyson say? Everybody acts hard until what?

• 2:09:30Adam Sosnick?

  You get punched in the mouth.

• 2:09:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, this is a different game they're in. They're on the inside, and, you know, whether that's gonna hurt their credibility when they leave, and what's gonna happen, all this other stuff, I don't know if that's gonna happen. I think Dan seems like a very straight up guy, but they both have a tough job, and we wish them nothing but the best. We hope they come through with the promises that they made, and if they do, a lot of the people that voted for it wanna see that stuff. Let's do one last story and wrap up. Rob, can you pull up the charts that we saw from Mario and the Fall on Tariffs? Check this out, folks. Prices of eggs. Tariffs, revenue, you have to see what this chart looks like. Look at the amount of income America is now making with tariffs last couple of months. Let me first read it, Rob. Trump's tariff shadow records $22.3 billion in May as revenue doubles.

• 2:10:15Patrick Bet-David?

  The US tariff record hit a 22.3 following April 16 and a half. Customs and excise taxes have more than doubled in just two months. Year to date, the government has collected $67.2 billion in tariff revenue. Now tariffs now represent 4% of the federal revenue, up from just 2%. This is what America first trade policy looked in action. Every billion collected is a billion less tax an American have to pay. Look at this, pull it up, Rob, if you can click on it. This since what month? Since 2005, zoom out a little bit more, Rob, if you could. Looking from 05. Look at the spike in tariff revenue. This is from the Department of US Treasury. Look at that. Barely anything and then all of a sudden, boom! We're doing a couple billion a month in tariff revenue.

• 2:10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Even prior to him getting in, it was 4, it was $9 billion. He takes $9 billion to $22 billion. Can you go to the next chart, Rob, on prices of, uh, uh, uh? Look at this one here. Egg prices have now declined 62% since President Trump's inauguration. They were $6.55, they're now $2.52 per dozen. Folks, go to the store and buy up a bunch of eggs and hang on to them, right? Massive win, the media is obviously not going to talk about this. But this is a massive victory for eggs. And I think there was one other chart as well, Rob, before I scream off the top of my lungs to defend this, this other plane behind us.

• 2:11:34Adam Sosnick?

  He's a Democrat in that airplane.

• 2:11:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He's definitely a Democrat back there saying, I'm gonna piss these guys off.

• 2:11:37Adam Sosnick?

  They don't want these guys.

• 2:11:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Rob, do me a favor, go to that video, go to the video of CNN with the economy. Play that two-minute clip, if you can play this clip, Rob. We're gonna finish up on this here, check this out. CNN is hoping, dude, there is no way in the world with all the shit that's going on, there's gonna be more positive thing about it. I don't think this is the one, Rob, it's the other one.

• 2:11:58Adam Sosnick?

  That's the leaders, yes, this one is.

• 2:11:59Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the enton one, that's the one, play this clip. Look how they feel about the economy and what the Democrats used to represent in 1989 and where they're no longer at, watch this.

• 2:12:10Speaker 29

  After all of the waves, Paul, and after the last few months, the first five months of the Donald Trump presidency, right, the first four months of the Donald Trump presidency, that you expect that Democrats have this massive lead on the economy? It ain't so, it ain't so. The party that is closest to your economic views, in November of 2023, it was the Republicans by 11 points. Now, it's still within that range, still within that margin of error. Plus eight-point advantage for the Republican Party. How is that possible, Democrats? How is that possible after all the recession fears? After the stock market's been doing all of this? After all the tariffs that Americans are against? And Republicans still hold an eight-point lead on the economy? Are you kidding me? If it was just one CNN poll, that would be one thing. But take a look at Reuters' Ipsos. What do we see here?

• 2:12:54Speaker 29

  "Party with a better economic plan." Well, in May of 2024, just before Donald Trump was re-elected president, Republicans had a nine-point advantage. Look at where we are now in May of 2025. The advantage actually went up by three points. Now, Republicans have a 12-point advantage when it comes to the party with a better economic plan. And again, this is after months of supposed economic uncertainty, in which the stock market's been going bonkers, in which the tariff wars that Americans are against have been going on. And yet, despite all of that, the Democrats are down by 12 points on the economy. This speaks to Democratic problems on the economy better than, basically, anything that you could possibly look at. The Republicans still hold an advantage on the all-important key issue of the day, which

• 2:13:37Speaker 29

  is the party of the middle class, has been a huge advantage for Democrats. I have polling from NBC going all the way back since 1989, when Democrats had a 23-point advantage. 2016, a 17-point advantage. But by this decade, we already started seeing declines back in 2022, where you saw that Democrats led, but only by four points, well within the margin of error. And now, in our latest CNN poll among registered voters, which is the party of the middle class? It is tied? This, I think, speaks to Democratic ideals more than anything else. They have traditionally been the party of the middle class. No longer. No more. Donald Trump and the Republican Party have taken that mantle away. And now, a key advantage for Democrats historically has gone "adios amigos." And now, there is no party that is the party of the middle class. Republicans have completely closed the gap.

• 2:14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I think he just did? I think secretly, he just applied for a job at Fox. He probably did. Can you imagine?

• 2:14:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I love what he's saying. And I'll tell you what, you know, words talk, numbers scream. And listen to what he carefully, what he was saying. He said "we" a lot, and also, he said... After all of the recession fears, he used that phrase twice, recession fears. So in other words, the entire mainstream media was saying, could be a recession, would cause calamity, could cause this, and all you know what America said?

• 2:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Huh.

• 2:14:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I think you're wrong. I think this is going well. I like this plan. It may not be going perfect, but I like this plan, and the polling is showing that. After all the economic uncertainty, listen to that, fear, uncertainty, those are feeling words. Those are liberal feeling words. Those are not numbers. And was the stock market having trouble? Yes. Have we not got a full deal with China yet? No, we don't. Do we need one? Yes. Do we need to bring the jobs back definitively? Yes, we do. Is there work to do? Yes, there is. But you know what Americans are saying? I trust these guys more than those guys, and I mean those colloquially, individuals. I trust the GOP more than I trust the Democrats, and it's getting worse. And the more they whine about it, the more they're missing the fact that feeling words

• 2:15:33Tom Ellsworth?

  don't move people's hearts the way you think they do. They may do it on social issues, but when you're talking about the economy and who do you trust? Look at this polling over time. You're losing, losing, losing, losing, losing, losing, losing. And why is trans so big? I'll tell you why. It's the next big feeling issue they needed, because they don't have anything else.

• 2:15:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It's embarrassing, Tom.

• 2:15:54Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like Tombstone. Six shots. Boy, you're out. Damn.

• 2:16:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Damn, Tom.

• 2:16:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom just dropped that mic right there.

• 2:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That was like...

• 2:16:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, Harry Enton...

• 2:16:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna bring this on. We're gonna wrap it up. I'm gonna show Phil. We're gonna wrap up. Go for it.

• 2:16:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Harry Enton has basically been working for the RNC discreetly and the Trump administration on CNN.

• 2:16:14Adam Sosnick?

  Give him a raise, if that's true.

• 2:16:17Tom Ellsworth?

  He went through a lot of stats, basically, how don't be fooled by all the tariff and what's going on with the Trump situation. Apparently, people still feel very comfortable with Trump running the economy. But for me, the biggest words talk, numbers scream moment right there, Tom, shout out to you, was that last stat about how which is the party of the middle class? Because the Democratic Party, since I've been alive, since we've all been alive, has been the party of the working class, has been the party of the working people, has been the party of the unions. Now, it's tied, which makes me ask the following question. What the hell does the Democratic Party stand for at this point?

• 2:16:52Adam Sosnick?

  So they stand for what gayness, wokeness and DEI? Is that what it is? Cause it used to have an economic message about the empowering the middle class and then basically ending the sort of like economic uncertainty between the wage gap. But now, so if you look at these numbers here, 1989, that's a tail end of Ronald Reagan. Couldn't have been higher as far as the disparity between the middle class, Republican and the Democrats. And then 2016 Obama, the bookends, they're still the party of the middle class. Trump, by the time that he leaves office, a billionaire has basically convinced the

• 2:17:32Adam Sosnick?

  rest of America, no, no, the Republicans are the party, a billionaire did that. So he's the McDonald's billionaire. Now it's basically tied. I, I don't have no clue what the Democratic Party stands for at this point, other than booing Trump.

• 2:17:47Speaker 12

  Yeah, I'm not, I'm sorry.

• 2:17:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 2:17:50Speaker 12

  No, I'm not, I'm far from ready to throw a parade just yet. I think he's doing some deeply concerning.

• 2:17:54Adam Sosnick?

  Which kind of parade, Brandon?

• 2:17:55Speaker 12

  Parade for the Republicans, not the weird kind. But um, yeah, no, so I mean, I think Trump's doing some deeply disturbing, concerning things when it comes to the economy, when it comes to the middle class. I like, I think the deficit's the biggest problem for the middle class and that's why life is unaffordable for most people and we're heading in that same direction still. And he's probably unwittingly signing us up for a like severe technocratic control state. I don't know if it's by his design or not, but um, yes, I'm happy overall with what he's doing compared to what the alternative was, but I'm still super concerned about some stuff that he's working us into right now.

• 2:18:28Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a couple of stories we don't get in, we didn't get into, maybe we will next week or the following week, Palantir being one of them. But we are at the end of it, folks. Couple of things for some of you that are family folks and you're running a business and you have a career and sometimes you're like, dude, I don't know how to do with the kids, with the family right now. We were just in Italy last week with four kids, traveling insane craziness business, back to back to back while cooking kids. Those are so many different things going on. Sometimes you're like, I don't have a clue how to do it. We're doing a webinar. I want you to watch this video and put this in your calendar. Nearly 20,000 people have registered for this webinar. Rob, play this clip. If you're a family man or a family woman, get yourself, your spouse on this webinar. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:19:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what's scary for some people is they want to be a killer in business. They want to do a great job as an executive, as a CEO, entrepreneur, business owner. But they don't want to kill their marriage. So how do you balance that out? You want to go make all the money, travel, win for your family. But you want to stay married, you want to have good relations with your kids. You want your kids to still want to see. How do you do this? There's four things, by the way. You ready? Write these down. Number one, you're allowing your family and friends make you feel guilty for your vision, which is going to create resentment towards them. You don't want that. Number two is you lack clarity on the vision. You don't really know what you're doing it for. So work-life balance is a question that comes up for people that are not clear of what they want to do. They haven't had the conversation with their family. Number three is the concept of being intentional with the time you're spending with your family. And number four is maybe you're just looking for an excuse to not work that hard.

• 2:19:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Because your family's not bothering you. You're just looking for it. This concept of work-life balance comes up every single day with people who ask me this question. On June 11th, I'm hosting a free webinar for one hour to talk about work-life balance with the people that don't have the answer to the questions there. Just like I didn't have it at that time. I'm married now with four kids, running all these businesses. Some days you feel like you can't, you don't know what the hell you're doing. All I'm going to do is share with you mistakes I've made and things that are working for me. So if it's important to you, get registered. Tell your wife, your husband, get everybody on together to listen up. We're going to go through it for one hour again on June 11th. Register because it's limited. June 11th, folks. June 11th, 12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time.

• 2:20:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to VTwebinar.com, go to VTwebinar.com and register. Vinny, last shout out.

• 2:20:43Speaker 05

  Last shout out. I'm pretty sure you guys all remember. I know the people at home remember DJ Daniels. You know that little kid that Trump praised at the State of the Union? Remember when he was standing, everybody was clapping, but the Democrats were sitting. They couldn't clap for him. Well, he just found out that, his father reported that he has three more tumors. So I just want to give DJ a huge shout out and ask everybody at home to pray for him, not just for healing, but for strength. And Rob, could you play this video of him?

• 2:21:08Speaker 31

  You got cancer. Don't give up on life. All you got to do is pray, believe in God.

• 2:21:17Speaker 31

  And just, just keep that negative energy out of your mind.

• 2:21:20Speaker 05

  And that dude, that kid is such a freaking awesome, awesome kid.

• 2:21:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, good for you, buddy.

• 2:21:24Speaker 05

  So God bless him. If everybody could just shoot him some prayers. I mean, that, talk about pride and that kid is freaking, that should be, there should be a month for this freaking kid and Democrats came to stand up and clap for him. So God bless him. And I just wanted to give a quick shout out from, for people to pray for him.

• 2:21:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Respect. God bless, gang. Uh, we will do another podcast tomorrow. I believe tomorrow we're gonna have Stephen A. on and then we'll be back again Thursday. Home team. Take care, everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:21:48Speaker 00

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