Bonus: From the Nitrous Mafia to the Italian Mafia, the Criminal Enterprises That Infiltrate Music Culture

Gangsters, rude boys, drug dealers, soviet bootleggers, ticket scalping syndicates, and psychedelic chemists—why do criminals like the “Nitrous Mafia” associated with Phish, and the Italian Mafia linked to Tommy James, so often infiltrate and influence music culture? This topic, along with your voicemails, texts, and emails, and in the All Access portion, Jake and Zeth unpack the fascinating history of violence in Jamaican music. You can become an All Access member and hear this and more exclusive content, along with ad-free listening of all Disgraceland episodes, by going to disgracelandpod.com https://www.disgracelandpod.com/ and signing up via Patreon or Apple Podcasts. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 104 - George Harrison https://www.disgracelandpod.com/104/george-harrison Episode 36 - Rolling Stones in Exile https://www.disgracelandpod.com/036/rolling-stones-fugitives Episode 135 - Aerosmith https://www.disgracelandpod.com/135/aerosmith To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 1:45Jake Brennan?

  Hey, Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand: The After Party.

• 2:12Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the Disgrace Land bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgrace Land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're talking about the criminal enterprises that have infiltrated music culture, digging into the music that you vibe on when you are recreating, rewinding back from the nitrous mafia to the Italian mafia with Tommy James and the Shondells, previewing next week's episode on Dr. John, and we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who

• 2:55Jake Brennan?

  know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgrace Land is where I tell the stories I didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it.

• 3:14Jake Brennan?

  Recently, the so-called nitrous mafia was linked to a murder outside a 2025 Phish concert in Virginia. Historically, throughout the history of popular music, the Italian mafia has been linked to numerous crimes: paola, extortion, racketeering, and of course, even murder. Other criminal enterprises, violent Jamaican kingpins, illegal drug chemists, South Boston ticket scalpers, and do-it-yourself commie bootleg artists have all left significant marks on music culture. But why? Why have criminals so strongly impacted the world of music? Italian mafioso, nitrous oxide peddlers, Jamaican sound system gangs, Soviet bootleggers,

• 3:58Jake Brennan?

  ticket scalping syndicates, psychedelic chemists, and the Brotherhood of Eternal Love, all of these criminal enterprises successfully infiltrated and undoubtedly impacted music culture.

• 4:11Jake Brennan?

  From the earliest days of recorded music up through the 1980s, the Italian Mafia's influence on the music industry could be felt everywhere. Mobsters determined which songs got played on the radio through payola, the act of bribing DJs and programmers to spin specific records. Wise guys used muscle and extortion to build and control a lucrative network of jukebox operators whose machines helped popularize records that mafia-connected executives profited off of. See our next rewind subject, Tommy James as Exhibit A, and Chuck Berry, Frankie Valli, and basically the entire MCA artist roster in the 1970s as Exhibits B, C, and D, respectively.

• 4:54Jake Brennan?

  In fact, the Chicago mob's influence on MCA records was so strong in the 1970s that Rolling Stone magazine claimed MCA stood for Mafia Controlled Artists. The so-called Nitrous Mafia, the balloon people who infiltrated the docile community of Phish fans, the ones we cover in this week's full episode of Disgraceland, continue to run their own extortion rackets, wage turf wars, and enforce a code of silence straight out of a Scorsese film. Recently, like I said, the group was linked to a murder outside of a 2025 Phish concert in Virginia. Back in the 1950s and up through the 1970s in Jamaica,

• 5:36Jake Brennan?

  sound systems, essentially street parties powered by giant P A. systems, these massive amalgams of speakers and cables and turntables and amplifiers, were the engines that ran the Jamaican music scene. Sound systems, both the parties and the literal equipment, were big business. Without Jamaican sound systems, the Jamaican music economy wouldn't have been possible. Many Jamaicans relied on music to put food on the table and thus relied on powerful sound systems. Sound system operators, Jamaican legends like Duke Reid, an ex-cop turned enforcer, and Cox and Dodd, a one-time cricket prodigy, hired the original Rude Boys, Violent Street

• 6:21Jake Brennan?

  Tufts, to protect their sound systems and to even sabotage sound systems operated by rival music promoters. Violent tussles over turf and stolen equipment were common, as were shootouts when rival crews tried hijacking dances, most infamously when gunmen raided a Duke Reid party in Kingston, leaving several wounded. Criminally-minded sound system operators in Rude Boys created the foundation for ska and reggae music distribution and promotion. Without them, there would be no reggae, quantifiably one of the most listened-to styles of music on the planet. Ticket scalping syndicates from the salty dude outside the

• 7:04Jake Brennan?

  garden trying to get you to bite on floor seats for Aerosmith back in the day, to modern bot firms that buy up thousands of tickets the instant they go on sale and flip them at 10 times the price to line the pockets of gangster resellers and corporate ticket brokers. These corrupt agents and practices are so rampant that we as consumers have largely just accepted them. The simple act of buying a concert ticket is proof of music culture crime hiding in plain sight. This example here might be the craziest. Back in the day, in Soviet Russia, independent-minded music lovers known as, excuse the pronunciation

• 7:43Jake Brennan?

  here, rungynat, pressed their own bootleg rock records, albums by The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, and Elvis Presley, onto discarded x-ray film. X-rays with images of ribs, skulls, and spines, and they then cut those x-rays into 7-inch discs, burned holes into the center of the discs with cigarette butts, and used specifically-made DIY machines to cut grooves into the discs at 78 revolutions per minute, all so they could hear and profit off of band music. Half a world away in the United States, the Brotherhood of Eternal Love, a California commune-turned-LSD cartel, funded a near psychedelic revolution through smuggling,

• 8:28Jake Brennan?

  counterfeiting, and large-scale acid production. The Brotherhood of Love supplied drugs for the Grateful Dead, Jimi Hendrix, and countless other artists who cemented the hippie dream counterculture ethos with the Baby Boomer generation, the most economically consequential generation in American history. But why? Why do criminal enterprises like the Brotherhood of Eternal Love, or the Nitrous Mafia, the Italian Mafia, and others, why do they so frequently infiltrate and ultimately influence music culture? Because every culture that promises freedom ends up breeding its own outlaws. Musicians and criminals operate from the same playbook:

• 9:12Jake Brennan?

  defiance, risk, charisma, self-invention, and control outside the system. This playbook created a playing field ripe for corruption. After all, outlaws, like musicians, chase the same thing: freedom on their own terms. I'll be back with your voicemails, texts, and more, right after this.

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• 10:21Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

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• 11:59Jake Brennan?

  All right. So we are back here in the music and true crime saddle, as they say, and or at least as I say. And, you know, before I get too far into last week's question of the week and your answers, your voicemails, your texts, you know, in that past B block, we stumbled upon something that I found to be very interesting, something I kind of knew about, and it was the Jamaican sound system operator history and all the violence and crime that's connected to that history. And we talk about some of this in the episodes that we've produced on Jamaican artists like Bob Marley and Peter Tosh. We haven't

• 12:36Jake Brennan?

  Really driven hard into the paint on this subject. It's really interesting to me. I'm really fascinated by the, the crime that is at the bedrock of these music history, genres, music history, economies. And often cases, these genres may have not even come to be if it weren't for these criminal elements back in the day. So we unpack this a little bit more in the exclusive section of the after party today. This whole sound system operator Jamaican music history piece that we dug into in the B block here. Zed and I get into it a little bit later, coming up in the exclusive part of the after party. You can access that content by becoming an all access member.

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  Just go to disgracenpod.com to sign up, just five bucks a month. For the time being that I know I've been saying this over and over again, the price is going up. We've been delayed, so you can take advantage of that and you can still get it at $5 before the price does increase. And I promise you it is increasing. So that's coming up later for all access members. All right, that's there for you. What I want to do now, I want to get into your voicemails and your texts. And, you know, I was struggling. When we did the fish episode, I was struggling to think of a good question. And I just kind of went super basic, super, super simple. You know, obviously when people go to see fish, they're getting fucked up. Some aren't, some are.

• 14:05Jake Brennan?

  You know, I have my go-tos, you know, and I'm about two, maybe, maybe three bourbons deep. I know what I'm listening to. You know, everybody imbibe's in their own way, everybody unwinds in their own way. And I thought it would be interesting to ask this question. You know, what do you listen to when, as one of you put it, you're recreating? So let's check out some voicemails and texts from you guys on this question of the week, inspired by, of course, the fish. And check out this voicemail here from the 563 Judy.

• 14:37Speaker 06

  Hi Jake, this is Judy from the 563. And I finally can answer a question without having to think too much about it.

• 14:51Speaker 06

  But what do I like to listen to when I am recreating? And it's a great album, very underrated. I don't hear anything about it, never heard much about it, but Beck's Midnight Vultures. It's great. It is just a high for all of your senses. The horns, the crazy lyrics, the visuals that are put into my head while listening to it, it's just wonderful. I love it. Keeps you in a good mood. It does not disappoint. So I'm curious to hear what you think about that album.

• 15:36Speaker 06

  Rockerola.

• 15:37Jake Brennan?

  Judy, I love Midnight Vultures. It's, uh, it's not my favorite Beck album, and my favorite Beck album is Sea Change, which is not, it's not something I want to listen to when I'm, when I'm recreating, as you say. Uh, but Midnight Vultures definitely is, I can see that for sure. Uh, crazy lyrics, lyrics are amazing, visuals, great, just, I hear you on the feel-good piece. That's, that's kind of what I want, what I want to get into when I, when I'm recreating. I'm stealing your word here. I love it. I want to get into stuff that makes me happy, stuff that makes me feel good, stuff that puts me, as you said, in a good mood and does not disappoint. I don't want to get too heavy. You know, I think when I first started recreating, back when I was a, a younger man, I would

• 16:21Jake Brennan?

  listen to heavier music, uh, both literally heavy music and figuratively heavy music. But, you know, I like, I like to keep it light these days. I don't know if that's a sign of getting old or not, but, uh, Judy, excellent pick here with Midnight Vultures. Let's see what the 703 has to say on the subject.

• 16:40Speaker 07

  Hey, what's up, Jake? Hey, this is Eric from the 703. I think you left a message asking about what do you like to listen to when you, um, have edibles?

• 16:52Speaker 07

  I just really started picking edibles. So I guess I'm kind of a newbie at this. But anyway, what I like to listen to when I'm doing edibles, man, what I really enjoy, you're gonna laugh, is I really like the Pet Shop Boys, early, early Pet Shop Boys. Don't get me wrong, definitely early Pet Shop Boys. And I guess that's it. Take care. Bye.

• 17:14Jake Brennan?

  All right, 703 Pet Shop Boys, not, not just any Pet Shop Boys, early Pet Shop Boys. You know what I'm gonna do for you, 703, next time I'm recreating, I'm gonna listen to little West End Girls. This song's incredible, by the way. West End Girls. You know, this is gonna pair well with Beck's Midnight Vultures as well. I think you guys have stumbled into a sort of a good little vibe here for a playlist. Could've used you on the mixtape mixology session we had with the Patreon listeners a couple of weeks ago, last week. That was fun, by the way, if you were in on that. Still have made the mixtapes, but hey, it hasn't even been a full seven day, actually, it has been actually seven days, eight days, and I'm

• 17:57Jake Brennan?

  gonna get into making those tapes soon and get them out to you guys. My boy Ish in the 781, Back in the Bean, hits us up. Let's hear what he's got to say.

• 18:05Speaker 08

  Jake, what up? Your boy Ish, just checking in. Let's talk about the fish. Yes, am I guilty of going to a fish show? Yes. Am I guilty of going to a Trey Anasasio show? Yes. Am I guilty of crossing paths and hanging out with the balloon people? Yes. That being said, thank you for the light layer of anxiety that this episode triggered. I enjoyed it. I will listen to it again next week.

• 18:48Speaker 08

  Thank you again. Keep up the great work. Disco.

• 18:52Jake Brennan?

  Disco-ish. It's been a minute. Thanks for getting at us. Um, did not mean to inspire any level of anxiety. I like how you're sort of insinuating that, um, you know, the music you listen to when you recreate is of course Fish and with the balloon people, you're kind of bringing it around full circle there, but did not mean to trigger the anxiety there. And I, I actually dig how you're, you're just low key mentioning that you're going to go back and listen to this again next week, which is awesome. And now I want to know more about your disgracefully unlistening habits. So please, uh, let us know. Stay in touch. Don't be a stranger-ish. Always appreciate your voicemails and your texts. Speaking of texts and speaking of recreating,

• 19:32Jake Brennan?

  the 978 writes in, you know what would be dope? An episode about snot between the life and death of Lynn, the straight up album after his death and his short-lived replacement Tommy Vex later from Bad Wolves being a complete piece of shit. You know, someone was heavy on this snot thing about a year or so ago and we lost track of it. I just, part of me can't take this serious, but part of me feels like I have to. I have to look into this. Uh, on the recreating question 301, King Gizzard in the Lizard Wizard. When I first heard this name, I, I didn't take them seriously. And of course they've become their own sort of musical phenomenon. And, uh, yeah, I can't say that I've ever, just as I've never seen Fish on purpose. I've never listened to King Gizzard

• 20:17Jake Brennan?

  in the Lizard Wizard on purpose either. Uh, but I will, uh, I'll have to get into that. 412 writes in, hey, as a person that first smoked the weed back in the 1980s, got to say, we all listened to Peter Frampton. Do you feel like we do when we smoked? Oh boy. These days I like stuff with a solid groove or a beat so I could just vibe out. But yeah, the old school weed smoking experience. Peter Frampton. Highly recommend Frampton. I feel like someone once said that that Peter Frampton album was issued to every kid in suburbia when it came out in the, uh, didn't it come out in the late seventies though? Was it the eighties? I don't know. Huge. The Frampton, the Frampton came to me late.

• 20:58Jake Brennan?

  You know, I was never a real big Frampton fan, but I get it. I completely get it. 303 texts in, "Hey, as a member of Gen X, which I call the great sampler platter generation, my musical tastes remain very broad. MTV exposed us to pop, metal and hip hop, and I fell into the jam scene early in college along with and enjoyed everything that came with it. I fell in love with the Phish." They're saying the Phish. "I fell in love with the Phish from Vermont. Most of all, and have traveled all over the country chasing their music and their scene. So what does an older Phan, spelled P-H-A-N, do when it's time to chill? Well, I like to listen to the sounds of Phish, the Phish."

• 21:42Jake Brennan?

  "I've gone down a rabbit hole, sticky with the roots of hip hop, James Brown, Parliament, Funkadelic, Curtis Mayfield, Rick James, and I love sharing it with anyone who will listen. My kids have got me into anime, modern pop and hip hop. MF Doom, who you should cover, is my favorite so far. I love exploring all the different avenues that brings me down, and I'm glad I came across your podcast back in 2018." CC, "Living in the 585, repping the 303 and the 303 in the 585," sends in a bunch of photos here of his record collection, which looks kinda similar to my record collection. The first three albums, Curtis Mayfield, right here, and Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders,

• 22:22Jake Brennan?

  Bob Marley and the Wailers, Mothership Connection by Parliament, uh, Doing It to Death by the JB's. I literally have all of these records that you're showing myself on vinyl. I do not have this Beastie Boys comp, however, which is in your last frame. Thanks for getting at us. 585/303."

• 22:44Jake Brennan?

  As you were describing yourself, being a member of Gen X and what you were exposed to through MTV and how Phish, the Phish from Vermont, hit you when you got into college, really just describing so many of my friends that I grew up with who were on that exact same trajectory, Bill Alatolo, if you're listening, I'm talking about you specifically. Just, you know, Phish was just there for us. There's perfect timing, perfect. 617-906-6638. If you guys want to get at me about anything related to your recreational habits, your affinity for Phish, your record collection, whatnot. Obviously, this question

• 23:28Jake Brennan?

  of the week was inspired by the madness that accompanies the music of Phish from this week's full episode. We've got more madness coming up in the rewind slot this week with the Tommy James and the Shondells episode. And this is really the mafia madness that inspired the B Block of this episode. And some of my favorite Double Elvis productions in this upcoming episode on Tommy James and the Shondells. And if you like old school gangster stories, you're going to love this episode. So do not sleep on it. Check it out. And do not sleep on what we've got coming your way next week by request. Can't remember

• 24:11Jake Brennan?

  who, which disco, which member, which All-Access member, or which listener requested Dr. John. There were a couple of you, but we've got that episode coming your way next week on Tuesday. And it's a really good one. I'm really excited about it. And the theme for our Dr. John episode, we could have gone in a million different directions, but the theme is really, it's really about healing and it's about healing through music. Okay?

• 24:41Jake Brennan?

  I know there are music therapists out there who listen to this show. So if you want to hit me up and talk about, you know, healing through music, that's great. For those of you who are not in sort of the music healing profession, but feel that you in your life, in your past, in your day to day, perhaps are healed by music as I do, feel free to reach out 617-906-6638. This is going to be the question of the week next week. And let me know what music has healed you. What music does heal you? I don't mean for this to sound like a Mel Robbins episode, or I don't even really know what Mel does, but I just assume it's this type of thing, or some sort of like self-help stuff. That's not what I'm going for here, but just, it doesn't have to be heavy. It can be. It can be the music

• 25:24Jake Brennan?

  that you listen to to get you out of your funk. It could be funk music that you listen to to get you out of your funk. It could be, I mean, that's kind of my jam, you know, whenever I'm feeling like run down by the day, or I'm in a bad mood, you know, I gravitate towards funk. I gravitate towards R and B, earth, wind, and fire, chic, sly, funkadelic, all that stuff. That's, that's kind of, that and jazz is probably, are probably the two genres that I listen to the most. Instrumental jazz music, bebop in particular, in the morning when I'm getting going, when I'm writing, I find it the perfect accompaniment to just grind, to just sit there at the keyboard and write and write and write. And then, you know, throughout the day, when I'm just kind of trying to motor through everything that

• 26:08Jake Brennan?

  I've got to do, and in particular, when I feel bad and I feel like I need to be uplifted, it's funk, it's R and B, it's soul. So what is it for you? That's what I want to know on the heels of the Dr. John episode that's coming your way on Tuesday. Hit me up 617-906-6638. Send me a voicemail. I love hearing your voices. You can also send me a text if you're shy, 617-906-6638. You can hit me up at @disgracelyampod on the socials. I'll be back right after this.

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• 27:19Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

• 27:49Speaker 00

  I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of Smart Talks with IBM. I spoke with Dr. Laura Jayhai of Cleveland Clinic about how advanced computing is helping shorten the path from medical discovery to treatment.

• 28:02Speaker 05

  The moment that there is a compound that someone in a lab thinks it would be effective to treat a certain disease, it takes about 10 to 13 years from that moment to when that drug is on a shelf for a patient. A big part of that gap could be computationally solved. Better simulation of compounds, designing drug trials that are more efficient, that would finish faster. That was the motivation to bring computational tools and technology closer to biomedical researchers.

• 28:37Speaker 00

  Learn more about how Cleveland Clinic and IBM are using AI and quantum computing to revolutionize biomedical research at ibm.com/smarttalks.

• 28:57Jake Brennan?

  All right, guys. Football season is, I gotta admit, it's fun this year. It's gotten fun. It's got, you know, some, some, some teams that aren't usually good are good, and my team is one of them. And the New England Patriots are eight and two right now. They are atop the AFC East. They are the second seed in the AFC playoffs right now, behind the Colts. I believe the Colts have a better divisional record than the Patriots have. Patriots lost to the Raiders. And yeah, and I don't think the Colts have lost to anyone in the division. Anyhow, eight and two. And we didn't see this coming. None of us did. And if you did, kudos to you, but I think you're lying.

• 29:42Jake Brennan?

  And it's got me really excited, but it's also got me super, super cautious. All right? So listen, this is the 60 Second Sports Round in under 30 seconds, and it's once again sponsored by our friends at Five Hour Energy and their new pumpkin spice flavor, your favorite fall drink in an energy shot. You can pick up a pumpkin spice five hour energy shot available online at fivehourenergy.com or Amazon. Matt, give me the ticker. Let's go. Let's get into this. Listen, the New England Patriots, the long suffering New England Patriots, the Tom Brady-less, the Bill Belichick-jettisoned Patriots have not made the postseason since way, way, way back in 2022.

• 30:25Jake Brennan?

  Way back when Joe Biden was president, when Stranger Things was only in its fourth season of television, and Top Gun Maverick had just saved Hollywood. Way back then was the last time the Pats played in the playoff game. And they lost. They got destroyed, actually, by the Buffalo Bills. And it's been a dark, dark couple of years since, three years to be precise. So this year, now that we clearly have a quarterback who can play, and we clearly have a coach who can coach, I am stoked on the future. And the future is now, right now, as in 2025, this season. But can we pump the brakes, please, on the rampant happy talk of Around this team, the New York Times Playoff Simulator projects the Patriots going 13-4

• 31:08Jake Brennan?

  and finishing with the best record in the AFC. This might happen, but let's not talk about this insanity and let's not upset the football gods. They're an angry fickle lot. They disperse swift judgment in the form of torn Achilles and unnecessary concussion protocols. I want the Patriots to make the playoffs as much as the next Pat's fan, but as the Manning who shall not be named, you know, the one who beat us in the Super Bowl twice said, "I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious." So let's lay off, let's chill, let's chill on the happy talk and let's see what happens. All right. That was the sports rant sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new pumpkin spice flavor. These new pumpkin spice five hour energy shots are fall in a bottle and bring that classic pumpkin spice flavor that we all know and love, our favorite fall drink in

• 31:53Jake Brennan?

  an energy shot. You can pick up a pumpkin spice five hour energy shot available online at fivehourenergy.com or Amazon. As I just read that, guys, I had an image of myself that did not look that dissimilar from the announcer from the film Slapshot. And I don't know, I felt like I was channeling that dude a little bit, the guy with the hairpiece. I don't have a hairpiece, despite what some people may have said. Anyhow, I love talking sports and I love that you guys are here for it and I love that you indulge these little sports rants. Thank you so much. I also love talking, you know, music and crime, as you know. And so much of the content that you guys hear is driven from conversations between Zeth and I. Sometimes they're purposeful conversations around work.

• 32:39Jake Brennan?

  Sometimes they're just conversations around things that we're listening to or that we've just sort of learned, you know, reels we've come across on Instagram or whatever, just things we've seen on the internet or things we've uncovered from the research we're doing on various artists and we just get talking and it just, it spurs all this conversation. And that then drives the conversation that we each have in the after-party and in Zeth's rap party over in the Hollywood land feed, which you guys should be subscribed to. And of course, in the conversations with you guys that we have, oftentimes the subjects that we cover and that we dedicate a lot of man hours to, to producing our episodes,

• 33:21Jake Brennan?

  those subjects are driven from conversations that we have with each other. And that is certainly the case with the fish episode this week. I'm not sure which listener brought Phish to my attention first, nor am I sure which Dr. John listener brought Dr. John to my attention. I should really start making a record of this, I guess, so I can thank you guys properly. Oftentimes, you know, I never would have thought of Phish. We never would have thought of the Nitrous Mafia either if it weren't for one of Zeth's friends who he was talking to, who hipped him to that whole scene. We know a lot about music. We don't, clearly, we don't know everything about music history, and you guys know a ton. And you just keep it coming. You know, if you text us these ideas, if you send

• 34:05Jake Brennan?

  us voicemails and you don't hear back from me, don't take it personally. You know, we try to answer as much as we can. We try to get into the emails. We try to get into the DMs. We try to unlock all the voicemails, all the texts. If we don't get back to you, we do see it all. And oftentimes, it colors, literally, the content that we end up choosing to engage with and produce. So keep it coming. And it's all conversation driven, just like the conversation between Zeth and I in the exclusive section of the after-party that's coming up here shortly. As I mentioned before, I think that's based on the talk we had regarding the sound system operators in Jamaica that was driven from the B block here. If you want to hear more on that insanity, you can do so by becoming an All-Access member. Just

• 34:47Jake Brennan?

  go to disgracedampod.com to sign up. Five bucks a month before that price goes up, and you're going to get exclusive content here in the after-party. You can get the exclusive mini-episodes every week, pretty much. And we've got more content coming your way through Patreon as well that we're planning. So get in, become an All-Access member today.

• 35:22Jake Brennan?

  Aerosmith, The Rolling Stones, Elvis Presley.

• 35:27Jake Brennan?

  The Beatles, these are just some of the artists we mentioned in this episode of the after-party. We've got, I don't know, 10 episodes on the Beatles. No, I think it's nine, and I think we have six on the Rolling Stones. Matt will, I don't know, choose a couple of his, of his favorites, and he'll, he'll include the episode information in the show notes to this bonus episode, so you can easily navigate to those. Huge archive, guys. I think we're up to 257 full episodes right now. It's a lot of stories on a lot of artists, and they can all be accessed in the disgraceland archive. All right, let's recap, shall we? This week's full episode on The Fish is available for you right now.

• 36:08Jake Brennan?

  Number two, new mini-episode for All-Access members on The Nitrous Mafia, in connection to a recent murder. You're gonna want to hear that, all right. Number three, rewind episode on Tommy James, coming up right after this. Number four, next week comes our new episode on Dr. John. Five, Zeph gives you those Hollywood and crime vibes over in the Hollywoodland feed, so make sure you're subscribed. Number six, 617-906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history, so keep calling, keep texting with the answers to this week's question of the week, or whatever else you guys want to talk about. Seven, don't forget Discos. This isn't just content, it's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do, and that is a disgrace. All right.

• 36:51Jake Brennan?

  On August 15th, 2004, Phish played what they thought was going to be their final show. It wasn't, and here's what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one, Slow Motion, Juvenile, featuring Soulja Slim. Last week, one. Weeks on chart, 16. Peak position, one. Number two, Lean Back, Terror Squad. Last week, three. Weeks on chart, eight. Peak position, two. Number three, Confessions, Part Two, Usher.

• 37:29Jake Brennan?

  Last week, two. Weeks on chart, 16. Peak position, one. Number four, Turn Me On, Kevin Little, featuring Spraga Bands. Last week, six. Weeks on chart, 13. Peak position, four. Number five, Sun Tzu.

• 38:00Jake Brennan?

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• 38:41Jake Brennan?

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