Bonus Episode: Why Does Hollywood Ignore The Most Impactful Music?

This week in the After Party, Jake wonders why horror film soundtracks, despite their importance to the mood of their films, are so often ignored by Hollywood when it comes to award season. Plus, we hear from you on the movies that scare you. Next week we're bringing you a brand new part 2 episode on AC/DC. AC/DC's Back in Black is the biggest selling rock album of all time. Jake wants to know: What do you think is the greatest rock album ever? Share your thoughts at 617-906 6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. To hear an extended version of the After Party where Jake and Dr. Zeth Lundy discuss scary performances in films that are not horror movies, become an All Access member at ⁠disgracelandpod.com⁠ https://www.disgracelandpod.com/. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 2:14Jake Brennan?

  Hey Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand: The Afterparty.

• 2:42Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the DisgraceLand bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the afterparty. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of DisgraceLand to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission: to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're talking about why Hollywood ignores some of the most impactful music ever made. We're rewinding back to our ACDC Part 1 episode, previewing next week's new episode on ACDC Part 2 of that story, and we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. DisgraceLand is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else.

• 3:27Jake Brennan?

  All right, Discos, let's get into it.

• 3:44Jake Brennan?

  When The Exorcist was released in 1974, the movie sent some theatergoers screaming through the aisles in terror. They vomited, fainted, more than one had a heart attack, and another had a miscarriage. The movie's shocking images of a possessed 12-year-old girl are credited with causing the extreme audience reaction. But the incredible music from The Exorcist also contributed to the intense fear that audiences felt. Horror movie music, unlike music in other film genres, is essential to the success of a film. Horror movie music is also the most memorable music in cinema.

• 4:25Jake Brennan?

  Think of films like Psycho, The Shining, and yes, The Exorcist, and try to imagine these movies without the music. You really can't. So why then have these and other original horror scores received little recognition from Hollywood? The cultural impact The Exorcist had was massive. In addition to the physical repulsion from some audiences, the film sparked a nationwide debate over faith. Protestants condemned it. The Vatican basically said, "See? We told you so." SNL spoofed it. And aspiring filmmakers everywhere, John Carpenter, Wes Craven, and others grabbed cameras with newfound inspiration that led to an eventual explosion in horror a decade

• 5:10Jake Brennan?

  later. In 1973 and 74, The Exorcist grossed $233 million domestically, the equivalent to over $1 billion today. It's no wonder the film was the first horror movie nominated for Best Picture at the 46th Annual Academy Awards. In total, The Exorcist received 10 Academy Award nominations for Best Actress, Actor, Supporting Actress, Director, Cinematography, Editing, Writing, Production, and Sound Mixing. But not for Best Original Score, Original Score Adaptation, or Best Song, which I always found to be a glaring omission, given the power and originality of The Exorcist's theme,

• 5:54Jake Brennan?

  "Tubular Bells," by Mike Oldfield. As a kid growing up in the 70s and 80s, I knew that music before I ever even saw the film. It's iconic, like the music of so many other horror films. But tubular bells almost didn't happen, at least not in The Exorcist. Director William Friedkin rejected scores by legendary composers Bernard Herrmann, you know, the dude who scored Psycho, and Lalo Schifrin, who came up with the Mission Impossible theme. In fact, Friedkin was so unimpressed and frustrated with the process of finding suitable music for his film that he literally threw Lalo Schifrin's score out of the window. You can hear more about this incident and the wild drama around choosing the music for The Exorcist in this week's disgracing mini-episode, which, as you probably know

• 6:39Jake Brennan?

  by now, is available only to All-Access members. But the main reason I mention Friedkin's frustration here is because it speaks to how important music is to a film production, especially a film that's supposed to elicit fear. Friedkin hunted through the archives at Warner Brothers and eventually Atlantic Records until he stumbled upon a prog rock composition by an unknown 19-year-old English musician named Mike Oldfield. And Friedkin knew immediately that the synthy tension of Oldfield's tune "Tubular Bells" would create a unique sense of modern dread and compel audiences. And boy, howdy, was he right. But the Academy

• 7:19Jake Brennan?

  didn't see it that way, and thus, no nomination. To be fair, the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences has always had a hands-off relationship with the horror genre. Horror movies, along with other so-called "genre" films, seldom get nominated in non-technical categories. But The Exorcist changed that, for a minute, anyway. In 1976, Jaws won the Oscar for Best Original Score by John Williams, and deservedly so. And in 1977, the horror film The Omen took home the Best Original Score Oscar, composed by Jerry Goldsmith. However, in the many years since, despite the continued excellence and impact of horror

• 8:00Jake Brennan?

  film music, only three horror movies have been nominated for Best Original Score since 1977: one for Amityville Horror in 1980, one for Interview with a Vampire in 1995, and one for The Village in 2005. That's just three nominations in nearly 50 years. Fifty years of incredible horror movies with impactful and memorable music. Movies like Suspiria, The Shining, Let the Right One In, The Witch, Get Out, and Hereditary. All films that were Oscar-worthy themselves, or contained performances that were Oscar-worthy, and contained Oscar-worthy original music.

• 8:42Jake Brennan?

  Given that the Academy typically dumps the horror genre into its technical award categories, the fact that none of these great films were nominated for Best Original Score is perplexing, to say the least. It's almost like the Academy purposefully overlooks horror and horror music. The mission of the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences is to recognize excellence and inspire the next generation of filmmakers. Without belaboring the point, every horror movie I've mentioned in this piece achieves cinematic excellence and has inspired future generations of filmmakers. Furthermore, the mission of filmmaking is

• 9:19Jake Brennan?

  partly to explore deeply human themes. What's more human than fear? And fear, as expressed in film, is done so most effectively with great music. Music you can't forget, but somehow, music Hollywood disgracefully ignores. I'll be back after this with your calls, texts, voicemails, and more.

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• 10:26Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

• 10:57Speaker 00

  Hi, I'm Jenna Ushkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 11:11Speaker 05

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 11:22Speaker 00

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 11:28Speaker 06

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

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  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeart Radio app today.

• 12:02Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. And speaking of Oscars, Zedd and I are hosting our own Academy Awards in the exclusive section to this after party. And we're going to be nominating the movies from Hollywood history that aren't horror, but are so scary that could be considered horror. Does that make sense? Great films that scare the hell out of you, but aren't horror movies. Great performances in films that are scary that aren't horror movies. You know what we're talking about. And to access this content, you know the drill. Five bucks to become an All-Access member and unlock exclusive content like this, as well as the mini episodes and also get ad-free listening. All right, this horror movie and music talk is because we dropped our Exorcist episode in the feed this week, a movie that directly inspired the music we created

• 12:46Jake Brennan?

  for the ACDC Part One episode that we're rewinding for you directly after this. And before we get into ACDC Part Two, the continuation of that story, that's going to be a brand new episode coming to you on Tuesday. The ACDC story deals with the murder-for-hire incident involving drummer Phil Rudd and the album Back in Black. It's a huge Part of this story, as is of course, Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap. But Back in Black is the second biggest selling album of all time. That's just incredible. You wouldn't think it'd be ACDC. I don't know. It sounds, sounds strange to say that. The number one selling album of all time is Thriller by Michael Jackson. Number two, Back in Black. So it's the highest selling rock record of all time. But is it the greatest rock record of all time? I don't think so.

• 13:29Jake Brennan?

  I don't even think it's the greatest ACDC record, not by a long shot. Difficult question to answer. You can only listen to one rock record, the rest of your life, start to finish. Which is it? Which rock album has no skips? Which rock record is dynamic enough, is textured enough, deep enough to keep you captivated? Which rock record best represents this massively popular genre? What is the greatest rock and roll record of all time? And why? That's what I want you guys to be thinking about next week when you're listening to ACDC Part Two. And that's what I want you guys to answer. Call me at 617-906-6638 or send me a voicemail. Let me know. [email protected] on the email machine.

• 14:14Jake Brennan?

  At Disgracelandpod on the socials. I know this is a basic question, but it's a, it's a big one. That's what kind of makes it hard. So I'm looking forward to your answers here. Last week's question of the week was, what's the scariest movie of all time? Another basic question, but a hard one, a hard one to answer. Cause god damn, there are a lot of scary movies, incredible ones, even beyond the, beyond the world of horror. And again, we're going to get into that later in the exclusive section. Obviously this question about scary movies was prompted by our Exorcist episode. Let's hear what you guys have to say on this subject. Matt, let's hear from the 414.

• 14:51Speaker 07

  Hey Jake, I'm just responding to the question about what is the scariest movie that I've seen? I think that it would be a movie from Turkey called Baskin. It's possible that I've only saw it once and so like maybe overly affected me, but I was really freaked out by that movie. Um, other people might have different things. I thought that one was pretty bad. Martyrs was intense, but it wasn't the most horrible. It wasn't pleasant, but it wasn't that bad. Anyways, enjoy spooky season and take care.

• 15:31Jake Brennan?

  Baskin. I, I've never heard of this movie. I am intrigued. Something about Turkey scares the hell out of me. I had a sketchy flight from Turkey once, the layover. That might be part of it. I've heard of Martyrs and never, never seen it. I'm excited to watch, so I love these recommendations here. All right, Baskin in Martyrs. Thank you, 414. Matt, let's check in with Tony from the 206.

• 15:59Speaker 08

  Hey Jake, Tony from the 206. Happy Halloween to you. To answer your question about what movies scare me, Videodrome, that's the one I had to cut off right in the middle of the movie. Cause I was like, okay, this is becoming too much. But the one that I recently went back and rewatched with my wife, actually about two nights ago, was the movie Strangers with Liv Tyler. That movie is still scary to this day, the way it was when I saw it in the theater back in 2008. And what's scary about it is it's just old school. No backstory to who these three killers are. They just show up and just terrorize the hell out of this couple at this vacation home. That's a good one.

• 16:43Speaker 08

  And I think a movie that doesn't get talked about enough that is still pretty scary, and let me know your opinion on this, has to be the movie 1408 with John Cusack and Samuel L. Jackson. Um, the one where, uh, John Cusack goes to the hotel that Samuel L. Jackson's telling him, don't stay here. There's been over, you know, 26 deaths in this room. I think that's the movie that doesn't get talked about enough in the conversation of good horror films. Let me know what your, what your take on that is. Much love from the 206 and, uh, happy Halloween, rock and roll.

• 17:14Jake Brennan?

  All right, Tony, Videodrome is awesome. Yes, it's a lot, but, uh, I want to go to the next part of your, your comment here. I could not agree more about Strangers. One of the absolute scariest films I've ever seen, if not the scariest film I've ever seen. I love it. I love the simplicity of it. I think that, that has a lot to do with why it's so frightening. Something about the subject matter, the home invasion piece that just, man, what's scarier than a home invasion? I don't know. I mean, come on. I've talked about The Strangers before with you guys. I haven't watched it though, in about two years. Maybe I'll, maybe I'll break

• 17:57Jake Brennan?

  it out this week before Halloween's over. Thank you so much. And as, by the way, Tony, as far as 1408 goes, not only have I never seen it, I've never even heard of it. I'm gonna take your word for it. Love John Cusack and I'll check that out. Great recommendations, Tony. Thank you, my brother. All right, let's do some texts. Let's check out this text from the 907 who says, I know this is controversial, but the movie that creeped me out the most was The Blair Witch Project. Up until the very end of the movie, I was unimpressed and, okay guys, spoiler alert, if you've never seen Blair Witch Project, just telling you, turn the volume down for a minute and then come back. 907 goes on to say, I was unimpressed and thought it was the hoax that it is. However, the guy

• 18:39Jake Brennan?

  standing in the corner right before the video ended abruptly got me. I was freaked out for the rest of the night. Lisa from the 907. Lisa, we forget, man, we forget how huge Blair Witch Project was culturally, for those of us who were there at the time. It was a massive movie and it was just one of those things, you know, it couldn't exist now because of the internet. You know, it would, it would have been spoiled and it wouldn't have had the run that it had in theaters. But it was just one of those things that was like wildfire and you had to see it. Word was this movie. Oh my God. Get, get to the theater now. Go watch it. And thankfully, when I saw it,

• 19:22Jake Brennan?

  I didn't know what was up. I was, I went in fairly ignorant, which was the best way to go into seeing this movie. And the experience was incredible. I'm obviously talking about it in kind of a veiled way right now. In case anybody's turned the volume back up after that spoiler alert, I don't want to give it away. It's a great experience. Check out Blair Witch Project if you haven't. If you happen to be one of the few people in the world out there who has no idea what this movie is, or doesn't know anything about it, you're lucky. Consider yourself privileged and just go watch it. Don't, don't go to the internet. Don't ask questions. All right, let's check out 703 who says, "Hey, I am still terrorized by two horror

• 20:02Jake Brennan?

  movies. My four older brothers took me to see at the tender age of seven and eight. All unbeknownst to our parents, The Exorcist and Phantasm. They still creep me out to this day so much that I still can't watch or listen to anything about them. God damn, man. I can't imagine seeing The Exorcist as a seven-year-old. Never mind as a seven-year-old in 1973, when it was released, after everything I gave you earlier in the B-block about what it was like for theater goers. I was reading this morning, something I didn't mention. I wonder, unfortunately, the 703 didn't give me her name. I wonder if you had this experience,

• 20:44Jake Brennan?

  703. I was reading William Peter Blatty, the guy who wrote The Exorcist. I was reading an interview with him this morning and he was talking about how, you know, most people now, or whenever he said this, I don't know when he said it, it was some years after The Exorcist, but he was like, "Most people assume that the reaction, the physical, the visceral reaction that people had in the theaters was because of, of the obvious stuff, like Linda Blair vomiting, you know, in like day glow green and her head turning around backward and, and again, the crucifix thing and all that." But he said that the thing, the thing that really got to people and that made them nauseous in the, in the, in the

• 21:25Jake Brennan?

  theaters, made them freak out, was the needle and the blood splurt. And he said that was it. Every time. It was that simple. And I can't disagree with him. I wonder 703, if you had that experience, you were there at the time. I suspect that it wasn't just the needle, it was probably the vibe that had been set and the tension and where people were and how the movie was, how they were sitting within the movie. And they were just primed for something so real to, but simple to have such a huge impact on them. That and of course, the music, as I said.

• 22:04Jake Brennan?

  All right, let's check out the 309 who writes, hey, I want to give you flowers. I heard about your podcast. And since I heard about it, I gave it a listen and I'm completely hooked. And my wife and I own a dance and performing arts studio. So when I'm not working my full time job, I'm up there at the studio putting some work in. Thankfully, my work is simply behind the scenes. But being that it is a dance and performing arts studio, music is definitely a big thing. Want to bring this message to a close because I feel like I'm beginning to ramble on and I don't want to come off like some crash test dummies. Cheese. Side note, that's one of my favorite parts of the show. Thank you, 309. Guys, I don't

• 22:43Jake Brennan?

  know why, but I love the texts and the emails that let me in on a little bit of the personal stuff from you guys, where you work especially. Not too personal. I just, I just like, you know, thinking about people out there, getting through their day, listening to the stuff that we put together over here at Double Elvis to help them pass the time. I don't know. It means a lot. Maybe because I spent a lot of my young adulthood doing jobs. I, you know, I needed something to help me pass the time with. And I know how valuable that is. And to think that we're kind of contributing that, I don't know. It just makes me feel good. So yeah, feel free to hit me up. Let me know what you guys are doing for work. And especially if you're listening to this Graceland while you're doing it. And remember,

• 23:27Jake Brennan?

  question of the week for next week, guys. Greatest rock album of all time, 617-906-6638. Think about this one. Don't think about, don't roll your eyes. Don't, don't do that. Don't stop, stop, just stop. It's a serious question. I know it's basic, but it's a serious question. Okay. It's a hard question when you think about it. The simple questions are the hardest. Like when someone asks you, how you doing? Yeah. It's a simple question. Sometimes hard to answer. On the one hand, I'm doing great. Doing what I want to be doing right now. On the other hand, there's about 10 other things I could be doing. You know what I'm saying?

• 24:04Jake Brennan?

  I don't know how to answer this question. It's so hard. I mean, Springsteen, Born to Run, Led Zeppelin IV, ACDC Powerage, Bad Brains, Eye Against Eye. There are so many records. Rock records. Yeah, I know Bad Brains is a hardcore band, but my eyes are a rock and roll band. So many different ways to go. You got one, like really picture, you just, you can't listen to another one for the, you can listen to other music, you just can't listen anymore rock. What's it gonna be? 617-906-6638. I want to know. You can email me as well, [email protected]. Like Peter C. who writes in, "Hey, a mate just emailed me a short Elvis/Ramon's clip. I'm a huge Ramones fan and I want to buy a DisgraceLand t-shirt.

• 24:47Jake Brennan?

  Where can I buy one, please? And hey, when are you coming to Adelaide? Cheers, Peter." Peter, you gotta be more specific, dude. A short Elvis/Ramon's clip. I am very intrigued. Is this Elvis and the Ramones meeting up someplace? What are you talking about? Elvis and the Ramones performing together? How would that be possible? The Ramones were barely around before Elvis died. But I gotta know. If this is real, you gotta hit me up. Where's Adelaide? Australia? I gotta know. I don't want to be insulting. Hold on, I gotta look this up.

• 25:28Jake Brennan?

  Yeah, Australia. I was right, Peter. You weren't insulted. But I'm intrigued. So hit me back and let me know. [email protected].

• 25:39Speaker 09

  And I'll just jump in here, Jake, to say, you know, for Peter, if you're looking for merch, the place for that is disgracelandpod.com/merch or over on patreon.com/disgraceland.

• 25:52Jake Brennan?

  Daniel K. writes in, "Hey, Jake, DisgraceLand team. I'm a big fan of your podcast, paid subscriber, and have been listening for over a year now. I love the deeply researched stories behind our favorite bands and especially discovering new artists that have somehow slipped by me. I'm also always racking my brain for my own recommendations for artists that you haven't covered, which is hard. But I don't think you've done one on the fantastic and criminally underrated Dr. John."

• 26:22Jake Brennan?

  Well, Daniel, you will be happy to know all the way over there in Berlin, Germany, that I am recording the Dr. John episode next week and it'll be coming your way. Well, I don't know, maybe early in the new year, I think, perhaps, or no, actually before the end of this year. Yeah. So there you go, Daniel. Talk about that. Talk about instant satisfaction. All right. I got an update for y'all. Some of you may have heard that we've been planning something big on Patreon that was supposed to drop this week, but due to an unforeseen issue, a good issue, by the way, we're holding that launch back along with the increased pricing for Patreon membership that we've been talking about. The price is going up, as they say,

• 27:07Jake Brennan?

  but it's not going up just, just yet, like we thought. New content coming to Patreon very soon. And, and, and if you're still on the fence about becoming a disgraced and all access member, you still got time to join for just $5 a month before prices go up. More news on this soon and I'll be back in a flash.

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• 28:04Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

• 28:35Speaker 00

  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 28:49Speaker 05

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 29:00Speaker 00

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 29:05Speaker 06

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 29:11Speaker 00

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeart Radio app today.

• 29:39Jake Brennan?

  All right, this is not an episode of 60 Minutes. This is, of course, the part of the show where I rant about my third favorite subject behind music and movies, of course, and that would be sports. Matt, stop the buzzer beater. This is the 60-second sports rant, and under 30 seconds. And it is once again sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new pumpkin spice flavor, your favorite fall drink in an energy shot. You can pick up a pumpkin spice Five Hour Energy shot, available online at fivehourenergy.com. All right, bring that ticker back in. Listen, this year's World Series has been incredible thus far. The Los Angeles Dodgers versus the Toronto Blue Jays. I'm watching these games with my sons, and we're riveted. The series is now knotted at two games apiece.

• 30:22Jake Brennan?

  There was an historic 18-inning game this week. Shohei Ohtani is playing at a level that the baseball gods never could have imagined. But it's not just Ohtani, who didn't win last night, by the way. Blue Jays won with Ohtani on the mound. It's not just Ohtani's brilliance, and despite his loss last night, he has been brilliant. It's the teams. Okay. You can just see it. The Dodgers and the Blue Jays are legit powerhouses in all phases of the game at the plate, on the mound, in the bullpen, on defense, on the base pass. Each team has legit bold faced stars. The Dodgers, they're stacked. Otani, Freeman, Betts. Why can't we get players like Betts, by the way? Anyways, Blue Jays,

• 31:06Jake Brennan?

  Vlad Jr., Bichette, the little bowling ball behind the plate, Kirk. These teams, watching them, it's painfully obvious to me how far the Red Sox are from contending at a championship level. And I know that there's a lot of you guys out there, Pirates fans. It's so, it's so hard to watch. You know, we see it. We see what it takes to win championships and to know that you're not there. It sucks. Okay. My team, Sox, they've got pieces in place, but they need so much more. And this is of course, the Red Sox ownership and management group that we're talking about. So I have little faith that they're going to sign the right pieces to compete. They'll find, they'll sign some, some of them and then they'll talk about how they, they signed all of them, but they didn't. And next year, we're going

• 31:49Jake Brennan?

  to be right back, same position we're in now, looking at two legit powerhouses in the World Series. We're not going to be one of them. But hopefully next year, one of them's not the Dodgers and they're not, you know, and there's no, it's just, I can't watch Mookie Betts in the World Series, man. Kills me. I love the guy, but it kills me. You know why. All right, Matt, I know, I know I went long there, but it all had to be said. And listen, that's the sports ramp sponsored by the good people at Five Hour Energy and their new pumpkin spice flavor. These new pumpkin spice five hour energy shots are fall in a bottle and bring that classic pumpkin spice flavor that we all know and love. Our favorite fall drink in an energy shot. You can pick up a pumpkin spice five hour energy shot, available online at fivehourenergy.com or Amazon. Hollywood land, the wrap

• 32:31Jake Brennan?

  party. What's Dr. Zeth Lundby cooking up in that feed, you ask? Well, let's check in with Zeth and find out. Here's a clip.

• 32:39Speaker 11

  I watched a couple of seasonally appropriate movies this weekend, but even more importantly than the season, these are some of the huge blind spots in my viewing history that I'm finally correcting after all these years. Why are they blind spots? Why have I not seen them? I don't know, man. Shit happens. Sometimes it takes a minute, or a year, or a decade for me to come around. But like Johnny Cash says, the man comes around. And first, I watched Evil Dead 2, the Sam Raimi horror film from 1987. And of course, I know about the legend of Evil Dead in terms of its importance in American independent cinema in the 1980s. You know, Sam Raimi, of course, was an early collaborator with the Coen Brothers. And you can see, they stole his shaky cam move in their first two films, Blood Simple

• 33:24Speaker 11

  and Raising Arizona. But I also, I feel like Evil Dead 2 borrows that Looney Tunes sensibility liberally from Raising Arizona. I mean, it's kind of like the horror film equivalent of Raising Arizona, don't you think? Like, in terms of energy, the comedic sensibilities, and this, the whole turning weakness into strength, or necessity being the mother of invention thing, that makes movies like these so great, so rewatchable. I mean, Evil Dead 2 is probably one of the most inventive films I have ever seen. This movie is like simultaneously a satire of a genre, as well as a great representation of that genre. And then Bruce Campell, who I mentioned before, National Treasure, he's like a wily coyote-ing the

• 34:07Speaker 11

  whole thing, you know? You could say this about a lot of things, and I do often, but I think it's demonstrably true here, that they don't make them like this anymore. Is it even possible to make a movie like this anymore, you know? And so obsessed with questions like, what would you do if your own hand was possessed by an evil spirit and was trying to kill you?

• 34:28Jake Brennan?

  All right, you guys are the best. So you're already following Hollywoodland on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and everywhere podcasts are available. And if you're not, you should be. And well, that's that. So, listen, I ask you, who wants to talk scary AF movies and movie performances that are not horror movies or horror movie performances? Zeth and I are nominating our non-horror Scary movie Oscars right now in the exclusive section of this after party and the results, well, they might scare you. You gotta be a member to hear though. Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up via Patreon or Apple Podcasts for just five bucks a month before prices go up. Unlock exclusive content like this plus ad free listening.

• 35:22Jake Brennan?

  All right, Discos, every week I get at least two or three emails or DMs or whatever from you guys requesting stories on artists that we've already covered. Don't get me wrong, this is a good problem to have with over 250 episodes in the Disgraceland archive. So just get in there at disgracelandpod.com or in whatever podcast app you listen to your shows in, you listen to Disgraceland in, search for the artists that you're looking for, or hit us up [email protected] with questions on specific artists and we'll get you the right info, the right link, whatever you need to listen. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week's full episode on The Exorcist, it's available for you right now. Get in there, get creeped out. Number two, new mini episode for all access members

• 36:06Jake Brennan?

  on the nightmare that Exorcist director William Free can put himself through trying to find the right music for the film. Fascinating story, you're not gonna want to miss that. Number three, rewind episode on ACDC Part One coming up right after this. Number four, next week, our new episode, it's ACDC Part Two, all right, the continuation of the ACDC story. Number five, Zeth gives you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland, so make sure you're subscribed. 6617-906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history, so keep calling, texting with your answers to this week's question of the week, or with whatever else you guys want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget Discos, this isn't just content, it's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music books, records, and the crime and grime that ties them all

• 36:49Jake Brennan?

  together like you do, and well, that's a disgrace. All right, this is the second week in a row, we've had a punctuating day on the same day, this has never happened before. Last week, it was December 23rd, back in 1985, when two Judas Priest fans shot themselves. This week, it's December 23rd, 1973, the day The Exorcist was released. And here's what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one, The Most Beautiful Girl, Charlie Rich. Last week, one. Weeks on chart, 13. Peak position, one. Number two, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, Elton John. Last week, two. Weeks on chart, nine.

• 37:34Jake Brennan?

  Peak position, two. Number three, Time in a Bottle, Jim Croce. Last week, five. Weeks on chart, six. Peak position, one. Number four, Leave Me Alone, Ruby Red Dress, Helen Red. Last week, seven. Weeks on chart, eight. Peak position, three. Number five, Hello, It's Me, Todd Decker. Last week, six.

• 38:12Speaker 12

  Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it!

• 38:17Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle. Hey, guys. Time to dust off your detective skills while unwinding in the Caribbean on Virgin Voyages' second true crime voyages. Back by popular demand, this five-night, adults-only escape

• 39:00Jake Brennan?

  sets sail March 20, 2027, to Grand Turk in the Beach Club at Bimini. The difference between this year and last will be that I will be on the cruise this year along with Zeth, and he and I will be taping a live version of DisgraceLand along with podcast hosts from Exactly Right's Buried Bones, Podcast of the Year Award winners, Wyscrack, and other fan favorites. Get on this cruise with us, guys, and enjoy live podcast recordings, behind-the-scenes storytelling, exclusive meet-and-greets, and immersive true crime programming throughout this one-of-a-kind voyage. Head over to www.virginvoyages.com/trucrime to secure your spot.

• 39:39Speaker 03

  She's been thinking about this sleepover all week, but I think about her food allergies all the time. Fortunately, her doctor prescribed Zolair, omalizumab. It's proven to significantly reduce allergic reactions if a food allergy accident happens.

• 39:52Speaker 04

  Zolair 150mg is a prescription medication used to treat food allergy in people 1 year of age and older to reduce allergic reactions due to accidental exposure to one or more foods. While taking Zolair, you should continue to avoid all foods to which you are allergic. Don't use if you are allergic to Zolair. Zolair may cause a severe, life-threatening allergic reaction called anaphylaxis. Tell your doctor if you ever had anaphylaxis. Get help right away if you have trouble breathing or if you have swelling of your throat or tongue. Zolair should not be used for the emergency treatment of allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. Zolair is for maintenance use to reduce allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, while avoiding food allergens. Serious side effects such as cancer, fever, muscle aches and rash, parasitic infection, or heart and circulation problems have been reported. Please see zolair.com for full prescribing information. Ask an allergist about Zolair. This is an advertisement for Zolair,

• 40:36Speaker 04

  paid for by Genentech and Novartis.