THIS IS COMMUNITY Ft. Joe Hegyes and Andrew Muscarella | Episode 176

Andrew Muscarella and Joe Hegyes, aka famed podcast duo Good Children, are BACK on the show this week!! They join Drew in New York to talk about Joe getting mistaken for Benson Boone, doing shrooms on Fire Island, 75 hard, babysitting dogs at the gym, Andrew’s past working as a finance intern in Congress gets revealed, and so much more. Andrew IG: https://www.instagram.com/andrewmuscarella/?hl=en Andrew Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@andrew_musky?lang=en Joe IG: https://www.instagram.com/joehegyes/?hl=en Joe Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bequietjoe?lang=en Follow The Comment Section on IG! https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:32Drew Afualo?

  Do you have any goals for this Pride Month?

• 0:34Speaker 02

  I don't want to spend $250 to be outdoors under a bridge that has traffic on it. I think we did. And we did.

• 0:49Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Common Section Show, starring me, your fam, everybody knows who cares about me. Onto the guests. Today, we have two All-Stars returning. The funny, hilarious, iconic, and legendary Joe and Andrew. Good children.

• 1:07Drew Afualo?

  Welcome back, team.

• 1:08Speaker 02

  To be named an All-Star, it is a huge honor.

• 1:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, your jerseys are in the rafters now.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  I feel like we won an award.

• 1:15Drew Afualo?

  How does it feel?

• 1:16Speaker 02

  Major. When we got the text, you made it to the All-Stars bracket? Yeah. A drag race. Especially because the lineup is legendary. I'm like, we snuck in here, as we always do.

• 1:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you guys snuck in the back door.

• 1:30Speaker 02

  And here we are. Always.

• 1:31Drew Afualo?

  Always.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  Any chance we get.

• 1:35Drew Afualo?

  Any chance you get.

• 1:36Speaker 02

  It's already starting.

• 1:37Drew Afualo?

  Well, how have you two been? You're both sporting new looks since the last time. Blonde, bald. How's it going?

• 1:44Speaker 02

  People, so I obviously I was buzzing my head. People have been commenting on things that I've been posting, saying, okay, balding era. I chose this.

• 1:53Drew Afualo?

  No, you have a really strong hairline.

• 1:55Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:55Drew Afualo?

  I can confirm.

• 1:56Speaker 02

  It was really shocking when it was happening though, like you can't help but like shake a little bit and like get nervous because you're like, what's underneath there? Are there gonna be bald spots? No, but I kind of served.

• 2:06Drew Afualo?

  We're in the clear.

• 2:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel really good about it.

• 2:08Drew Afualo?

  And you're blonde?

• 2:09Speaker 02

  I'm blonde now.

• 2:10Drew Afualo?

  How is it? Is life more fun?

• 2:11Speaker 02

  I would say it kind of is. I like, I honestly go through like a different hairstyle change once every three months, but blondes I've locked in on. It goes to like full yellow brass and then I go to like complete opposite like gray and right now we're in a good zone.

• 2:26Drew Afualo?

  Oh, perfect.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  We're lucky this happened this week.

• 2:28Drew Afualo?

  I caught you at the perfect time.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  You never know with the eyebrows, what's gonna happen. Oh yeah, I was gonna bleach my mustache this morning and then I said, not today. I said, let me wait until tomorrow.

• 2:36Drew Afualo?

  Now's not the day to take risks.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  Not tomorrow morning. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

• 2:40Drew Afualo?

  For your all-star debut.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:42Drew Afualo?

  Well, how's life been since we last saw each other?

• 2:45Speaker 02

  What was it? A year ago?

• 2:46Drew Afualo?

  Literally a year ago. You guys are some recent, like recent all-stars, I would say.

• 2:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:51Drew Afualo?

  Hell, yeah.

• 2:52Speaker 02

  Life's been good. It's been good. That was a trip to LA that I'll never forget. No, I'll never forget. We were riding a high. I feel like anytime we go to LA, we ride a high. There's something about it. Well, it's because like I'm always on edge when I'm driving. I think that like that creates an adrenaline that like can't be matched.

• 3:06Drew Afualo?

  Oh yeah, because you don't drive here in New York.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  I don't drive ever.

• 3:08Drew Afualo?

  I didn't even mention, we're in different studios, different space. Every time I have to mention it because I feel like it's dogs when you move and then they say like in their crate, you have to keep a blanket in there that smells the same and you're like, it's the same. Don't, don't freak out. It's the same. That's why I have to let them know. We're in a different, the crate's the same, different, different space. Anyways, you don't drive here in New York?

• 3:28Speaker 02

  No.

• 3:29Drew Afualo?

  So driving gives you anxiety?

• 3:30Speaker 02

  I mean, like, I'm just an aggressive driver.

• 3:33Drew Afualo?

  A scary, a dominant driver.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm dominant. Yeah, definitely in the driver's seat.

• 3:39Drew Afualo?

  On the road?

• 3:39Speaker 02

  On the road, I'm dominant. Anywhere else, we don't have to talk about it, but anyway.

• 3:44Drew Afualo?

  Depends on who you ask.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  Literally. No, but um, we've been good. I feel like the past year has been like a little bit of a wild journey with, with the pod. Our friendship is good. Imagine it wasn't, imagine it wasn't. The way that you said it, I was like, oh wait. Wait, we're fighting.

• 3:59Drew Afualo?

  We actually hate each other, so.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  We didn't talk to each other before we got here, but now here we are. Um, no, but things have been good.

• 4:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 4:07Speaker 02

  How are you?

• 4:07Drew Afualo?

  I'm good, you know, state of the world, falling apart.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:11Drew Afualo?

  Is what it is, and yet we persevere.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  Persevere.

• 4:15Drew Afualo?

  My new, my new bit lately has been like that meme, where does she say, where, uh, girls? It was like two girls, like written by girls for girls, but it was like, put your hair in a messy bun.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 4:25Drew Afualo?

  Put on some gangster rap and handle it. Exactly.

• 4:30Speaker 02

  And we're handling it.

• 4:31Drew Afualo?

  That's our new, that, and we're handling it.

• 4:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:34Drew Afualo?

  As terrifying as the world is, we're handling it.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  No messy buns here, but we're handling it.

• 4:39Speaker 03

  I'm so close.

• 4:40Drew Afualo?

  You're so.

• 4:42Speaker 02

  Messy.

• 4:42Drew Afualo?

  You are so close.

• 4:44Speaker 03

  Messy, but no bun.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  Messy Lola Young.

• 4:45Speaker 03

  Lola Young.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  Lola Young, yeah.

• 4:49Drew Afualo?

  Alexa, play Messy by Lola Young.

• 4:51Speaker 02

  Take one look at Joe, who do you think he looks like?

• 4:54Drew Afualo?

  Hmm.

• 4:55Speaker 02

  Cause he's been getting a double B name, if you know what I mean.

• 4:58Drew Afualo?

  A double B name?

• 5:00Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 5:01Drew Afualo?

  I don't even know.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  Someone I said I would refuse to comment on, but.

• 5:04Speaker 03

  I was in, I was in a, a, a dark room this weekend.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  To put it lightly.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  In Fire Island.

• 5:13Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 5:13Speaker 03

  And I was, I was meeting new people, I was building community in a really special way.

• 5:18Drew Afualo?

  During Pride Month.

• 5:19Speaker 03

  Sweet way, yeah, and it was very sweet. And towards the end of my experience, a man came up to me and said, I thought you were Benson Boone. And I first, that's a compliment, like.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  It is.

• 5:32Speaker 03

  That's a compliment, for sure.

• 5:33Drew Afualo?

  No, it's a slur.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  Where's the jump?

• 5:36Speaker 03

  At first I took it as one, and I was like, you know what? That either says really bad things about Benson Boone or really amazing things about me.

• 5:44Drew Afualo?

  You know what, I love a good, I love a reframing.

• 5:46Speaker 03

  Yes, exactly, exactly.

• 5:48Drew Afualo?

  Uh, well, it could very easily be construed as an insult.

• 5:50Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 5:51Drew Afualo?

  Me and Jason.

• 5:52Speaker 03

  But I wasn't doing any flips.

• 5:53Drew Afualo?

  I have such a weird thing with Benson Boone in the sense that I will not be convinced.

• 5:58Speaker 02

  No.

• 5:58Drew Afualo?

  To buy in.

• 5:59Speaker 02

  I completely agree.

• 6:00Drew Afualo?

  I will not be convinced.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  I said I refuse to comment on Benson Boone. I just think it's, it's like, anyone wants me to, like, no one cares, but I'm like.

• 6:07Drew Afualo?

  You will not.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  I refuse to comment on Benson Boone. I think, you know what, he's doing what he, he's doing what he's doing, like, there's a lot of flips happening.

• 6:14Speaker 03

  A lot of flips.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  That is impressive, right?

• 6:15Drew Afualo?

  And I'm stressed.

• 6:17Speaker 02

  Sure, I'm stressed.

• 6:18Drew Afualo?

  You stress me out.

• 6:19Speaker 03

  I challenge him to go pro, I think he should have gone towards like the Olympic route.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 6:24Speaker 03

  And then maybe everyone would be happier.

• 6:25Speaker 02

  A vaulter, maybe?

• 6:26Speaker 03

  Imagine he was vaulting?

• 6:27Speaker 02

  No, he would be. I can't.

• 6:29Drew Afualo?

  Also, imagine Benson Boone on Fire Island.

• 6:31Speaker 02

  Well, he would get.

• 6:32Drew Afualo?

  Dumas, get Dumas on the phone.

• 6:34Speaker 02

  We get eaten up alive. Scary.

• 6:37Speaker 03

  My issue is like whenever, um, whenever there is someone who we all decide we hate, I will regardless, start defending that person in my head, in my head.

• 6:47Drew Afualo?

  You're an empath to your core.

• 6:49Speaker 03

  I think I'm just annoying. Like it's like.

• 6:52Drew Afualo?

  He said I'm so annoying, I have to defend that.

• 6:54Speaker 03

  Be contrarian. And I'm like, actually, he's not that bad. Yeah. Like I, I am someone who should be on the camp of hating him. And I'm just like, what did he do wrong?

• 7:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. You know what's funny is like, I don't even hate him. I just don't want to hear about him.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  Right. Yeah.

• 7:07Drew Afualo?

  Like do what you gotta do. I, I feel the same way about, what's the name? What's the name of that guy? Me forgetting. He's, he's a white actor.

• 7:15Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 7:16Drew Afualo?

  That narrows it down.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  Narrow it down.

• 7:17Drew Afualo?

  Um, Glenn Powell, that's his fucking name.

• 7:20Speaker 03

  And now.

• 7:21Speaker 02

  And people are obsessed.

• 7:22Drew Afualo?

  I feel the same way about him. I'm just like, I don't want any problems.

• 7:25Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 7:26Drew Afualo?

  But I don't want to be bothered.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  But there's something about Benson Boone that I'm like, if you are over the age of 28 and you're commenting on Benson Boone, he's, he's pretty young too. Especially, he's like 21, 22.

• 7:35Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 7:35Speaker 03

  Are you sure?

• 7:35Speaker 02

  I'm a hundred, no.

• 7:37Drew Afualo?

  Is this misinformation being spread?

• 7:39Speaker 02

  A hundred percent. Well, I'm going to leave it 1%. I'm a 99% certain that man is 21 to 22 years old.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  Did you know he was on American Idol?

• 7:47Drew Afualo?

  No, I don't.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  I didn't know that either, but I got that lore recently. I'm like, I won't comment on Benson Boone.

• 7:52Drew Afualo?

  Imagine he's a huge fan.

• 7:55Speaker 02

  I'm like, please stay.

• 7:56Drew Afualo?

  Actually, I think we should hear him out a little bit more.

• 7:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's hear him scream a bit.

• 8:02Speaker 02

  Oh, anyways.

• 8:02Drew Afualo?

  I think, I honestly, that moonbeam ice cream fucking song, what is it? Mythical, magical, mystical, magical? Hello? I don't even know. Me, about to have a stroke because I'm talking about Benson Boone. Anyways, my sister and I were talking about it because we just kept saying, moonbeam ice cream. Cause that's just like a thing that we do now. But when I listened to the beginning of the song, I was like.

• 8:25Drew Afualo?

  He's cooking a little bit, like when you listen to the, the chorus kills that song.

• 8:28Speaker 02

  Right.

• 8:29Drew Afualo?

  But when you listen to the intro, I was kinda like, alright, okay. Yeah, like when a white guy does white guy shit.

• 8:35Speaker 02

  He always just gets you.

• 8:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, just enough.

• 8:38Speaker 02

  And you're like, I'm good.

• 8:39Drew Afualo?

  And I saw my friend Kate Sawyer, she made a really funny take on him. Where she said, I think the reason why people find it corny is because he's not willing to commit to the bit. Even though he's like emulating gay sexuality, right, clearly, he's emulate, he's like emulating almost exactly uh gay sexuality, but he's not willing to commit. So she was saying, so I need to see package, like pack it. Whatever Ross Lynch is using, use what he's using.

• 9:05Drew Afualo?

  And I laughed because I was like, that's a really good point. I mean, maybe if you commit to the bit, maybe you'll get more people on your side.

• 9:11Speaker 03

  I completely agree.

• 9:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I think so. And I heard he's a former Mormon, so that was kinda like.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  And at twenty-two, I was straight.

• 9:20Speaker 03

  So when you put it that way. He's got time.

• 9:23Drew Afualo?

  And honestly, like the Mormon thing makes a lot of sense with the flipping.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  That makes total sense.

• 9:27Drew Afualo?

  For some reason Mormon dudes love.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  They're always flipping.

• 9:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like it's like one of those things where they're like, look what I can do, kinda like uh the, the white Mormon girl version of that is the worm.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, are you speaking from personal experience?

• 9:39Drew Afualo?

  I do know a lot of Mormons, yes.

• 9:41Speaker 03

  Do the worm or a fact flip?

• 9:43Drew Afualo?

  They do both, at parties, their version of parties.

• 9:45Speaker 02

  Soda going through their.

• 9:48Speaker 03

  They're like, oh my god, I can't keep this controlled, they're doing flips.

• 9:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's like one of those, it's like a party trick.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:53Drew Afualo?

  Right, so it's like, that white girl version of that is the worm, like when white girls do the worm at weddings and shit, you're like, oh, interesting.

• 10:00Speaker 02

  But I will say sometimes, I haven't seen the worm in a really long time, but when they do it right, it's impressive. You're like, wait, your body's going, how is it?

• 10:08Drew Afualo?

  I'm amazed, I'm amazed.

• 10:10Speaker 03

  When they do it wrong, and you're like, oh.

• 10:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and you're just like, oh, good job.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  They're just having to turn away. On the floor. Baby, get up, baby, get up.

• 10:20Drew Afualo?

  Well, I mean, I'm glad you didn't let that deter your experience on Fire Island.

• 10:25Speaker 03

  Thank you, thank you.

• 10:26Drew Afualo?

  All right, being confused for Vince. Also, I've seen Vince Moon in real life. He's like itty bitty.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  Really?

• 10:32Drew Afualo?

  Like five two.

• 10:32Speaker 03

  What, there is a, there is a misconception happening. Also, just physically, physical makeup.

• 10:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Just general physicality.

• 10:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was shopping in the Husky section. He's not.

• 10:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, no.

• 10:43Speaker 03

  He's Chihuahua.

• 10:44Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 10:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:46Drew Afualo?

  Well, how was your experience on Fire Island? Did you go to Fire Island?

• 10:49Speaker 02

  I didn't. I actually haven't been to Fire Island yet. Yeah, I know. I'm going in August.

• 10:53Drew Afualo?

  Are you excited?

• 10:54Speaker 02

  I'm very excited.

• 10:55Drew Afualo?

  Baby's first Fire Island trip?

• 10:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, going with Eric Sedano. It's gonna be a fun, we're gonna be cracking up. There's gonna be a Bob out, I'm sure at every bit. You'll find a way.

• 11:04Drew Afualo?

  And he's bringing a wig to, like, with every fit, I bet.

• 11:07Speaker 02

  Everything, I'm sure.

• 11:07Drew Afualo?

  Coordinated with every. How was your trip to Fire Island?

• 11:10Speaker 03

  It was really good. It was really fun. It was my first time, so it was exciting.

• 11:15Drew Afualo?

  Nice.

• 11:15Speaker 03

  I, there was an incident. I was thinking, as I said, I should have done something crazy this weekend. I did.

• 11:20Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  I, I stayed in this hotel that has been around since the 50s. It looks like a Venetian mansion.

• 11:28Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 11:29Speaker 03

  However, it's on the water and it's been decaying for 50, 60, 70 years.

• 11:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  But it's gorgeous in some ways.

• 11:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:36Speaker 03

  Saturday night thunderstorm. I say, let me, Andrew, actually, let's, let's incorporate you into the story. Andrew gives me a bag of these, like, store-bought shrooms gummies.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  Store-bought is fine.

• 11:48Drew Afualo?

  Store-bought is fine.

• 11:50Speaker 03

  But you can't, like, buy a shroom in New York City. Like, that's like, I don't think it's even legally available. So I'm like, okay, this is gonna be like-

• 11:55Speaker 02

  Oh, so I'm gonna get arrested?

• 11:57Speaker 03

  No, it was like, it's gonna be like fake shrooms. Like, those like, those like, coffee powders you mix.

• 12:02Drew Afualo?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 12:03Speaker 03

  You don't know they do anything. It's pitch black lightning storm. I'm completely alone in a haunted house on shrooms on Fire Island.

• 12:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're crazy.

• 12:13Speaker 03

  I was seeing things in a scary way. It was so unsettling. I was possessed for four hours in the pitch black in this place, like, looking at, and I was staying in the Marie Antoinette suite. The Marie Antoinette suite, two twin beds.

• 12:28Speaker 02

  I said, Marie Antoinette's head is wrong.

• 12:30Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 12:31Speaker 03

  Two twin beds?

• 12:32Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 12:33Speaker 03

  Come on.

• 12:33Drew Afualo?

  She said, let them eat mushrooms.

• 12:35Speaker 03

  Yes, yes.

• 12:36Drew Afualo?

  Let them eat shrooms.

• 12:37Speaker 03

  So it became a really horrifying experience where I just needed to escape a haunted house on Fire Island. But ultimately, that is kind of my version of gay pride. Like, I was like, this is kind of what I'm all about.

• 12:48Drew Afualo?

  That's so camp.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  You're fighting to escape.

• 12:50Speaker 03

  Leaving a haunted house?

• 12:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're right.

• 12:54Drew Afualo?

  Taking shrooms on Fire Island? Pride.

• 12:56Speaker 02

  Pride.

• 12:57Drew Afualo?

  That's what it's all about.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  But it ended fine. But it ended fine. I went to sleep soon, early.

• 13:01Drew Afualo?

  Damn.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Just one shroom will do it to you sometimes.

• 13:03Speaker 03

  And you're taking six of the same one, the same weekend.

• 13:06Speaker 02

  Six. And I was, I was smiling. I was cracking up. I was having the time of my life. But I was also by the water. It's, it has to do with your environment, I believe.

• 13:15Speaker 03

  I was in a hill house.

• 13:15Speaker 02

  But I also was haunted.

• 13:17Drew Afualo?

  Haunting of my manor?

• 13:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. I took six shrooms and then I was making mac and cheese for about 20 people. I don't know. It sounds like I was working at a summer camp and I basically was. But yeah, I was having the time of my life.

• 13:30Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy. I've never shroomed before. I'm too, I'm kind of afraid.

• 13:34Speaker 03

  Flanders, yeah.

• 13:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'm afraid of my, well. It could go either way.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  We've had pretty triggering, we've had pretty triggering shroom stories before too. So you never know what you're gonna get.

• 13:43Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying. And I'm someone who needs to be able to control it to some extent.

• 13:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:48Drew Afualo?

  I've, but like, I would say weed is like the most I've ever gotten experimental with in terms of like dosages and everything. But anything past weed, I'm afraid.

• 13:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:59Drew Afualo?

  I'm scared of my own brain. I'm afraid of what it will unlock.

• 14:01Speaker 03

  It's too powerful.

• 14:03Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, I don't want to know what else is going on in there.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  But shrooms like does awaken a part of your brain that you're like, whoa, I didn't realize that about myself. Or like you.

• 14:11Drew Afualo?

  That's what I mean.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:12Drew Afualo?

  Watch me discover empathy.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 14:14Drew Afualo?

  Like straight men do.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah. Where we're scrolling on TikTok, we see you, we're like, hey guys, I take back everything I've had. Like, whoa.

• 14:23Drew Afualo?

  Men actually do have it hard.

• 14:27Drew Afualo?

  And they turn me into a trad wife.

• 14:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, stop. You're JoJo Siwa. You're JoJo.

• 14:32Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God, I'm gonna reverse everything by that measure. No, I have to fill the space. I have to fill the space that the JoJo shaped hole that she left.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  Someone has to do it.

• 14:41Drew Afualo?

  Someone has to take it up.

• 14:43Speaker 02

  Maybe it was a shroom strip for her.

• 14:45Drew Afualo?

  Maybe, maybe that's what unlocked it. I don't know who's to say, honestly. But I'm honestly, I think you're so brave for having store bought shrooms, especially here because when, before they like cracked down on the dispensaries here, that was when I had that horrifying experience buying weed here. Not too far from here, actually. Thankfully, that place is shut down. If not, I was gonna blow it up myself because they drugged me.

• 15:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:10Drew Afualo?

  But I, I was just telling my friend yesterday about that experience where I felt like I was sent into a K-hole. Which is just horrifying. On weed?

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:18Drew Afualo?

  Don't do that to me. Oh my god, I think the first time I ever really greened out, though, was when I was at Disneyland. And I took, I took one, and I took an edible. And I was like, I'm gonna have the time of my life when I go. And then, I think we were going on Soren over California. We were like waiting in the line, and I was like, I'm gonna die if I stay here for a second longer. And so everyone starts walking on the ride, and I was like, I'm gonna go wait out, and I just turned around and started walking out.

• 15:47Drew Afualo?

  And then I was sitting outside, and I was just like, just sitting with my eyes wide open, and I felt like that for like probably another like forty minutes. And then, once I smelled popcorn, I was like, that's gonna heal me. That's gonna heal me. So I went and ate some popcorn, and it didn't in fact heal me. It's almost like that part where you get past the scaries, you're all, okay, perfect, we can have fun now. Yeah!

• 16:11Speaker 02

  You're like, fun, okay.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  The idea of being too high in Disney scares me. Like, I can't imagine seeing Pluto.

• 16:17Speaker 02

  No.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  I just think it would take me to a place I would never wanna come back from.

• 16:22Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, too, I have, I think it's called megalophobia, which is like, I don't like things that are huge. Things that are, are supposed to be, I think, in my head, a normal size.

• 16:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:32Drew Afualo?

  So like, whenever I see whales, I'm like, no.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  No. You're often seeing whales?

• 16:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, when I see whales, no.

• 16:41Drew Afualo?

  Be looking at whales, no.

• 16:42Speaker 02

  You're going whale watching, you're like, absolutely.

• 16:44Drew Afualo?

  No, when I see, like, I always use this reference, but like in Life of Pi the Movie, when that giant whale jumps up and then, I would've killed myself that night.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm sure.

• 16:53Drew Afualo?

  I'm sorry, I'm not making it out. I'm sorry, I'm out. I'm sorry, I can't do it. Too many big things. I remember my first time. When I saw Chewbacca at Disneyland, I had like a real panic attack.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  I'm sure.

• 17:05Drew Afualo?

  Cause he's scared.

• 17:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:06Speaker 03

  How old were you?

• 17:08Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I was in my twenties.

• 17:10Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I was like twenty-four, I think. That was like five years ago. Um, yeah, no, I was just, I'm just horrified. Do you guys have any weird fears?

• 17:18Speaker 02

  Oh geez. Shoot, weird fears? No.

• 17:21Drew Afualo?

  Like ones that you're like, I can't explain it. Just something about it. Me to Glenn Powell.

• 17:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:29Speaker 03

  Honestly, Glenn Powell might be on my list.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  He's a fear. He's a fear seeing him.

• 17:33Speaker 03

  Shockingly not.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know.

• 17:34Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  We're pretty fearless.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess so.

• 17:37Drew Afualo?

  That is true.

• 17:37Speaker 03

  Cause I jump out of planes and shit. That's a whole different side of it.

• 17:39Drew Afualo?

  You do?

• 17:40Speaker 02

  I love a, I love a thrill.

• 17:42Drew Afualo?

  You do? That is true about you.

• 17:44Speaker 02

  It's like making me feel alive.

• 17:45Drew Afualo?

  Ah, I'm cool.

• 17:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:47Drew Afualo?

  Off it.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:48Drew Afualo?

  I, you know what? I'm a moral support friend though.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 17:50Drew Afualo?

  So I'll just be like, if you want to do something nuts, I'll go with you. I'll just wait in the waiting room.

• 17:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:54Drew Afualo?

  I'll wait till you're done.

• 17:56Speaker 03

  That's very sweet.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  Would you ever jump out of a plane?

• 17:58Drew Afualo?

  No, probably not.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  It is like stupid.

• 18:00Speaker 03

  I just found my life a little too hot.

• 18:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like, why did I do that?

• 18:04Drew Afualo?

  I'm like kind of enjoying myself.

• 18:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, it seems like.

• 18:06Speaker 02

  No, it was kind of like, what was I going through? Was I good? I was like, I needed to throw away something.

• 18:11Drew Afualo?

  Me when I did seventy-five hard?

• 18:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:13Drew Afualo?

  What was I going through?

• 18:15Speaker 02

  Why did you do that?

• 18:16Drew Afualo?

  Oh, cause I got fired.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 18:18Drew Afualo?

  And I thought, instead of getting bangs, I'm gonna do seventy-five hard.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, I get that. Okay. Was it, was it hard? Seventy-five?

• 18:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it was hard, yeah. The first week, I remember I was literally crying to my man, cause I was like, I just like, I'm gonna have to eat like this forever. It's only been four days. And I wasn't even eating like, I wasn't eating super restrictive. We were just, you have to follow a plan. It's bullshit. Like, the whole thing is, is stupid and dumb.

• 18:44Speaker 02

  No alcohol, no anything. You have to work out like, two times a day or something?

• 18:47Drew Afualo?

  Two times a day. It's like, one of them has to be outside.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:49Drew Afualo?

  So it's like forty-five minutes each workout. One has to be outside. And then you have to take a picture in like, like a progress pic of your body like bra and underwear. And then you have to drink a gallon of water. You have to follow, and you have to read ten pages of a self-help book.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  No, you know what?

• 19:03Drew Afualo?

  It is.

• 19:04Speaker 03

  Who was the person that decided to do that?

• 19:07Speaker 02

  Take a pic of your Adisa? And then I'm like, no.

• 19:11Speaker 03

  I'm shocked you haven't done it.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  I know. I've been around it. I've been so close.

• 19:16Drew Afualo?

  You have been so. Yeah, when, when you hit really, for real hit something, you're gonna be like, I'm gonna do seventy five.

• 19:23Speaker 02

  Next time we're on the pod, it's like All Star season two.

• 19:27Speaker 03

  I'm good. I just did seventy five hard.

• 19:29Drew Afualo?

  I'm actually so good.

• 19:30Speaker 02

  My watch goes off. I'm like, wait, I have to work out. I'm so sorry.

• 19:34Speaker 03

  A quick stand.

• 19:36Drew Afualo?

  I honestly, when we, when me and my man did it at the same time, only did it once, did it all the way through, but only did it once. And we did it during COVID, so there was like nothing going on. I don't know how people do that when life is normal.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  Right.

• 19:48Drew Afualo?

  Because I felt like my whole day revolved around that shit. It was fucking awful.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Imagine going to work, like, like an actual, like a nine to five, and then feeling like you have to work out in the morning and after work. And then you're eating pebbles of food during the day. Like, no.

• 20:00Drew Afualo?

  Eating like a rabbit all throughout the day.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  I'm like in the work, I'm in the work bathroom, like. I'm in the work room, stripping down to my undies.

• 20:09Drew Afualo?

  In the break room, taking pics.

• 20:11Speaker 02

  They're like, Andrew, what are you doing in there? I'm like, don't worry about it.

• 20:14Drew Afualo?

  Girl, it's seventy five hard.

• 20:15Speaker 03

  Did you ever fall victim to an Apple Watch?

• 20:17Drew Afualo?

  I did.

• 20:18Speaker 03

  And did you feel manipulated and gaslit by it?

• 20:20Drew Afualo?

  Oh, absolutely.

• 20:21Speaker 03

  Me and Andrew in the pandemic, we were like, it was full, the Apple Watch controlled our lives. With the specificity to the stand goal, which feels so arbitrary.

• 20:33Drew Afualo?

  No, for real. And how are they measuring it?

• 20:35Speaker 03

  Right. Well, I would measure, I would be sitting down on the couch like this, swinging my arms.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  I would be, I'll never forget. This was, this was the lowest of the lows. This was really low. I was driving to Boston, four hours away. I'm sick to my stomach about sitting for four hours. I'm like, I actually, how, my stand goals, I'm not gonna hit my stand goal. This is, the watch is gonna be pissed at me. It's gonna implode. I'm swinging, I have one hand on the wheel. I'm swinging the other arm. It's not working. It's not working. I'm like, I have to hit a rest stop. I get to the rest stop. I'm walking around for two minutes, swinging my arm to hit my stand goal. And for what? And for what?

• 21:11Drew Afualo?

  For you. It's like literally just for you.

• 21:13Speaker 02

  It was just for me. To be like, yeah, I stood every hour. What did you do today?

• 21:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, I hit my goals, so don't know about you.

• 21:23Drew Afualo?

  You know, my new version of that is the Oura ring. You guys heard about the Oura ring? I do have it on currently.

• 21:28Speaker 02

  Do you like?

• 21:29Drew Afualo?

  I love it.

• 21:30Speaker 02

  You love?

• 21:30Drew Afualo?

  And I feel like it makes me so fucking old. Like, I feel like I'm the most old man on planet Earth, because I'm like, let's check my sleep score.

• 21:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:37Drew Afualo?

  I go and check, and I'm like, my latency's down, fuck.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:41Drew Afualo?

  My chrono time is down, fuck.

• 21:42Speaker 02

  What are these words?

• 21:43Drew Afualo?

  I know, I don't even know. I have no clue. That's just what it says on the app.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  It's not, I had one. I had one and I sent it back.

• 21:50Drew Afualo?

  You did?

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Well, I'll tell you why. I wasn't in the right place. I was coming off of my, I was coming off my Apple Watch era.

• 21:56Drew Afualo?

  Your Apple Watch addiction.

• 21:57Speaker 02

  And I don't think the Oura ring is necessarily like a supplement to the Apple Watch.

• 22:02Drew Afualo?

  I don't think so either, yeah.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  Even like lifting and stuff, I was always taking it off. I'm like, what's the point? But, you know, I'm like, it doesn't even know I'm working out. But like, now that I've like shut that part of my brain off, I'm like, I don't actually care how many calories I'm burning. I'm just like doing my little thing.

• 22:16Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 22:16Speaker 02

  I feel like I can get the Oura ring again.

• 22:17Drew Afualo?

  And that's why I like it, because I, I honestly, and this is again on some old man shit. I was like just trying to track health. Like, I was like, I need to make sure I sleep more. I need to take better care of my body. And so now that I, I got it actually initially for my man for Christmas, because he used to have an Apple Watch addiction. Especially when he was a trainer.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:35Drew Afualo?

  And so he was really into that, and he loves, he's big nerd, so he likes to track all those stats. And so I got him the Oura ring for Christmas last year. He loves it.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:44Drew Afualo?

  And so I was like, actually, I think I do want to try and do that. So I got one for myself. I just converted my whole family.

• 22:49Speaker 02

  I'm kind of like, what if it was a wedding band?

• 22:51Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  I'm kind of like, someone should.

• 22:53Drew Afualo?

  I do have like, they have like bumper rings you could put on, like you could get to make them look cuter. Because honestly, when I was looking, I was like, boy ring.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  It's thick.

• 23:00Drew Afualo?

  Boy ring. I look like I'm in The Sopranos. Hate it.

• 23:04Speaker 02

  Could be very chic.

• 23:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Which could be very chic. Yeah, so I, I converted my whole family to it. Even like, my uncle was at my house the other day, and I was telling him all about it. He was like, wow, I think I need to get it too. And I was like, yeah, it's real Black Mirror. Like, honestly, they might activate me like the Winter Soldier one day. It's okay. Until then, I'm tracking my sleep and I'm having fun.

• 23:23Speaker 02

  You like, one day, you like, you can't take it off your finger. You're like, what's going on? It's running your life.

• 23:26Drew Afualo?

  It's gonna be like the SpongeBob SquarePants movie when the chum bucket helmets, they just go down. And then I'm like, hail plankton. That's gonna happen to me.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  Incredible.

• 23:35Drew Afualo?

  That's gonna happen to me.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  It's kind of a good movie, yeah. Aura.

• 23:38Drew Afualo?

  For real, that's why Black Mirror. Black Mirror is gonna do it, I bet.

• 23:41Speaker 03

  No, but you just influenced me, like.

• 23:43Drew Afualo?

  I'm telling you.

• 23:44Speaker 03

  I'm gonna look into it.

• 23:45Drew Afualo?

  You should.

• 23:47Drew Afualo?

  I'm just an ambassador for Aura.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  Aura Ring sales after this episode.

• 23:50Drew Afualo?

  Skyrocketing. Anyways, let's pivot. Pride Month.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  Pride Month.

• 23:56Drew Afualo?

  How's, happy Pride.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  Happy Pride, yeah.

• 23:58Drew Afualo?

  How's Pride Month been for y'all so far?

• 24:00Speaker 02

  It's been good. I feel like we're just getting started.

• 24:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:02Drew Afualo?

  I know, huh?

• 24:03Speaker 03

  It's, you know, there's highs and lows.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  Always.

• 24:06Speaker 03

  There's highs and lows.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Always.

• 24:07Speaker 03

  There's highs and lows. The Pride Month Eve, which is a really important night.

• 24:11Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  Miley Cyrus showed up to Three Dollar Bill in Bushwick, which is like our stomping grounds in a crazy way. And she did a little speech and performed three songs. And that was the happiest I've ever been in my entire life.

• 24:25Speaker 03

  And I really looked around in that place and I was like, this is what it's all about.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  This is community.

• 24:31Speaker 03

  I was like crying. It was like I did Molly, which I've never done. This is what it feels like to be Molly. I'm gonna crash out tomorrow.

• 24:38Drew Afualo?

  This is what it's all about.

• 24:39Speaker 03

  The serotonin was off the charts and I really was like, oh, I don't need anything else. Like this was Pride. I'm good for the month. And it was May 31st.

• 24:48Drew Afualo?

  Damn, on Pride, on Pride Eve?

• 24:50Speaker 03

  Pride Eve.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  Pride Eve. She said, I'm gonna own Pride Month.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  Yes, and she did.

• 24:54Speaker 02

  She did.

• 24:55Speaker 03

  And she said, let me see you, and I'm gonna quote it, air quotes, "Vogue the house down boots, mama." So that was Pride.

• 25:04Drew Afualo?

  Hit a lot of buzzwords.

• 25:07Speaker 02

  It was like, chat GPT. Gay crowd in Bushwick, New York.

• 25:13Drew Afualo?

  Did she put it in gay translator?

• 25:15Speaker 02

  Slay the house down boots, mama, sickening boots.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  Work.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  So special and meaningful.

• 25:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:24Speaker 03

  Her destiny was to bring us hope.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:26Speaker 03

  As she says.

• 25:27Drew Afualo?

  Take me back to God's country. It's the Three Dollar Bill in Bushwick with Miley Cyrus.

• 25:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is that.

• 25:35Drew Afualo?

  I mean, technically, yes, it is.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  In some ways, yeah.

• 25:37Drew Afualo?

  Do you have any goals for this Pride Month?

• 25:41Speaker 02

  That's a really, we both like, you can breathe now, you can breathe now Joe.

• 25:45Drew Afualo?

  You set your intentions for Pride Month, I'm sure.

• 25:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're manifesting Pride Month, to be a good one. No, I really don't think I have any goals for this month.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  I have a goal. I don't want to spend $250 on a ticket to go to someplace in Brooklyn. That's actually my goal.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  You're so right. No, you know what? To put it lightly, I don't want to spend $250 to be outdoors, under a bridge, that has traffic on it.

• 26:10Speaker 03

  I think we did.

• 26:12Speaker 02

  And we did. And you know what?

• 26:14Drew Afualo?

  And it's a little too late? Yeah.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. What's even more embarrassing is this, should we, should we talk about the VIP experience?

• 26:20Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 26:20Speaker 02

  This is, this is, so, two years ago, I think.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Was it two years ago? Three years ago?

• 26:25Speaker 03

  Three years ago.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Oh my god, we just started the podcast.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  And we thought we were truly, we thought we were like Bowen and Matt.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  No.

• 26:30Speaker 03

  We've done it, we've done it.

• 26:32Drew Afualo?

  Lost Culture Re: Stuff, af.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  One month in, I was like, it's so crazy being so different, like, people are looking at me in a weird...

• 26:41Speaker 03

  We can't go in public anymore.

• 26:42Speaker 02

  And like, people say, people say famous president, I'm like, they're right.

• 26:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  So we go to, we were like buying tickets, and we're like, you know what, like, we have to get the VIP experience.

• 26:51Speaker 03

  And mind you, we're buying tickets to stand under a bridge, that's not a joke. It's called Under the K Bridge, it's in Brooklyn, but you're going, it's like, you're a goblin, you're going under a bridge. And we're, we're paying to be VIPs under the bridge.

• 27:04Drew Afualo?

  Under the same bridge.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  And, and I think that we were buying the VIP experience, because I think at the beginning too, it was like fake it till you make it. We were like, people are gonna think we're VIP. Like, we're so sick in the head, it's illusion, it's illusion.

• 27:16Drew Afualo?

  That's the only way you make it, to be honest.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  No one, I don't think, no, we did meet one person there, but it was like $300.

• 27:23Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 27:24Speaker 02

  To go to a VIP experience, and it was like just a little fence. It was me and Tace in the back. I'm like, hey Tace, I said something that I regret for the rest of my life. I'm like, I'm gonna go, I can't care, but it was post, it was post Drag Race UK. And listen, I love Lauren Chaney, like, don't get it twisted, but in the moment, I literally looked at Tace and I said, "Fuck Lauren Chaney", because I thought Tace should have won. And she was like, "Babes, I love Lauren Chaney", and I was like, "Oh, so, I'm gonna go."

• 27:53Drew Afualo?

  So no community, I'm so sorry about that, I'll leave.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  So my goal this year is to not, no, not speak to Tace.

• 27:58Drew Afualo?

  It's to avoid Tace.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  Unless she wants to speak with me.

• 28:04Speaker 02

  But yeah, that's a good goal, Joe.

• 28:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:07Speaker 03

  It's just kind of like, that's kind of the craziest part about what Pride has become in the

• 28:17Speaker 00

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• 28:49Speaker 03

  These spaces is like, events to celebrate are now, the barrier to entry is $150.

• 28:55Drew Afualo?

  Which is crazy.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  Really, how is that community?

• 28:57Drew Afualo?

  No, for real.

• 28:58Speaker 03

  That is actually excluding almost everyone who could be invited.

• 29:04Speaker 03

  And they're never good.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 03

  It's never fun.

• 29:07Speaker 02

  No.

• 29:08Speaker 03

  It's always too crowded, it's always too hot, I'm always trying to go home.

• 29:13Drew Afualo?

  I love to go home.

• 29:14Speaker 03

  It was Brat Fest on Pride, that was a nightmare.

• 29:17Speaker 02

  I felt like I was 75 years old.

• 29:21Speaker 03

  I was like, oh no.

• 29:22Drew Afualo?

  That was me at Coachella this year.

• 29:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:24Drew Afualo?

  Oh, girl, at Coachella this year.

• 29:26Speaker 02

  You felt...

• 29:27Speaker 03

  What was the situation I am?

• 29:28Drew Afualo?

  Oh yeah, I've aged 2 million years. But also, it was funny because I had, I had stuff sent to me from like, Red Bull, I had stuff sent to me from Patron, and then my man got stuff sent to us from Body Armor. Guess what was gone by the end of the weekend? All the Body Armor stuff. All the electrolytes, all the water, all the little juices. Like, we were like, God, I need to drink at least two before I go out today.

• 29:51Speaker 03

  You're like, at the Patron?

• 29:54Drew Afualo?

  And every time I looked at the Patron, I was gagging violently. I was like...

• 29:58Speaker 02

  Like a baby.

• 29:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Oh, girl. And I just felt like every time I was there, I was like, I think I gotta sit down. So like, I'm gonna go sit down. I already took my outfit pictures. I'm gonna go sit down.

• 30:10Speaker 02

  You need the silent suite. What was that called?

• 30:13Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, the, oh, God. The deprivation. Yeah, for real. I just feel like a hundred thousand years old. So it's like one of those things where as you get older too, you're like, if I am gonna go, I need to buy things, like I need to buy things that make it easier for me to be there.

• 30:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:30Drew Afualo?

  So I need a better parking pass. I need to make sure I have a chair. And then it's like, what's the point?

• 30:34Speaker 02

  What's the point?

• 30:36Speaker 03

  I just will be under the K bridge.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, I call that a K hole.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:41Speaker 02

  Under the K bridge.

• 30:43Drew Afualo?

  One time, one time I went to this event with my sister, all my lesbian friends. We went to a gay event in LA. And there was a girl, Amanda's laughing, because she was there. There was a girl came up, she was like, I'd love to take you to the VIP. Like, I'm a huge fan. I was like, okay, yeah, sure. And I'm with like nine people. She takes all of us. VIP was literally, it's in the same room that we were already in. There's just a platform that's about eight inches off the ground.

• 31:12Speaker 02

  You're like.

• 31:12Drew Afualo?

  She's like, this is it right here. And then we're just standing on it. And we're just, and it's so crowded on the platform, no one can move. So we're kind of like, well, now I just feel like I'm being looked at.

• 31:24Drew Afualo?

  And one of my cousins was with us with her girlfriend and she was like, I'm gonna sit down here.

• 31:30Drew Afualo?

  And then it's like, her head was like to my like tits right here. And then I was like, VIP experience.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  That's good. They come out with like the sparklers.

• 31:43Drew Afualo?

  But I'm glad you guys' intentions are to be more mindful.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  I also think to like hang out with more like, like friends and like keep it low key. I agree with you. I feel like a lot of the events lately have turned into like, listen, a darkroom is nice sometimes too, but like I wouldn't say that's just that really, I guess that's community, but it's like, it's like fucking for pride. Like, okay, let's get it, I guess.

• 32:05Speaker 03

  Are you familiar with Twinks versus Dolls?

• 32:07Drew Afualo?

  Like, in what regard?

• 32:09Speaker 03

  There's like a, there's a, a bar in Brooklyn, Singers has an annual competition, Twinks versus Dolls.

• 32:14Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 32:14Speaker 03

  In a high school gymnasium.

• 32:16Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  And it is the Twinks versus the Dolls. There are two teams.

• 32:20Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 32:20Speaker 03

  Different competitions. There is like, kind of, I think it's like a lube wrestling one? Where they have to wrestle each other in lube, or it's mud, it's something like that. But there is, most famously is their cigarette race, where it's the Twinks versus Dolls chain smoking as fast as they can. And whoever wins, whoever finishes their cigarette first wins.

• 32:38Drew Afualo?

  Tev, you would kill at that.

• 32:39Speaker 03

  If she would.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  Honestly.

• 32:42Speaker 03

  She would be an honorary Twink.

• 32:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think so too.

• 32:44Speaker 03

  She would be in that category.

• 32:45Speaker 02

  I think so too.

• 32:46Speaker 03

  Um, but that's something I actually need to get to this year. I need to, I've never seen it.

• 32:50Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  I've only seen it online. You could pay, it's pay-per-view. So if you want to watch it at home, you could.

• 32:54Drew Afualo?

  Shut the fuck up. Pay-per-view? I would love to watch it.

• 32:59Speaker 03

  It's been elevated every single year. Like, started in like, the backyard, and now it's a, a high school gym.

• 33:04Drew Afualo?

  Gay people are so fun.

• 33:06Speaker 03

  It's incredible.

• 33:06Drew Afualo?

  It's so crazy to me. Like, it's funny because I joke about this all the time. I'm like, I'm a token straight friend. All my friends are gay. Even when I told Chapel that, she's like, yeah, I can tell. Because I said, everyone who works for me and with me is gay, and she said, I can tell. And I said, whoa, clocked. My bad. Like, and I feel like that's, when I hang out with straight people, like, the few times I'm with straight people, I'm always like,

• 33:29Speaker 02

  I can't do this.

• 33:30Drew Afualo?

  God, it's so boring.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:31Drew Afualo?

  What do you guys talk about taxes?

• 33:33Speaker 02

  Taxes and sports.

• 33:34Speaker 03

  And I feel bad. Like, I'm hap, I'm really, I, I'm so happy for them, but I just am like,

• 33:39Speaker 02

  Are you?

• 33:40Speaker 03

  I can't talk about Survivor anymore. And Survivor is almost very gay, and it's very gay.

• 33:45Drew Afualo?

  I just can't. You know, I never watched Survivor either. That's so funny.

• 33:50Speaker 03

  It's really hard.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  Do you watch House, I feel like the crossover is Housewives sometimes.

• 33:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that is true. With straight women.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  With straight women, yeah. No, we're talking straight men.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  Straight men.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Straight men.

• 33:58Drew Afualo?

  I was talking straight in general, but, yeah.

• 34:01Speaker 03

  Straight men.

• 34:02Drew Afualo?

  You're right.

• 34:03Speaker 02

  It's gonna be what?

• 34:04Drew Afualo?

  A big ol' no from me.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  I'm almost crying right now.

• 34:08Speaker 03

  You're like, what do you want to talk about?

• 34:10Speaker 02

  What do you want to talk about? Madwell?

• 34:14Speaker 02

  The new launch at Madwell?

• 34:17Speaker 02

  Not sure.

• 34:20Drew Afualo?

  Carhartt?

• 34:20Speaker 02

  Carhartt?

• 34:21Drew Afualo?

  I don't know anything about that. God.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  No, F1?

• 34:25Drew Afualo?

  I know, and you know what?

• 34:26Speaker 02

  Tate McRae's F1.

• 34:28Drew Afualo?

  You just say a bunch of straight things. Tate McRae, F1, MLS, MLB.

• 34:34Drew Afualo?

  That's my straight translator. If I'm Miley Cyrus and I'm appealing to them, that's what I'm typing it.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  I'm still talking about Kendrick Lamar's halftime Super Bowl performance. And I'm like, yeah, what about that? They're like, you mean from February? Yeah.

• 34:45Drew Afualo?

  Right, right, at the big game.

• 34:47Speaker 02

  At the big game.

• 34:49Speaker 02

  That big one.

• 34:50Drew Afualo?

  I know, that's why whenever, you're right, though, about the crossover with Housewives. I agree. Like, with straight, that's where you meet in the middle. I was just telling Jason this the other day, because she tells me the entire plot of every, what is it? Secret Lives of Mormon Wives? She told me the entire plot of the entire show, because I was like, I'm never gonna watch it. And when she was explaining it to me, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm just picturing, like, she's like, see all these, all these names sound the same. It's like Anna, Jana, Hannah, right? And I was like, well, yeah, I'm just picturing different hairstyle. Like, this one has a curtain bang. This one has a braid.

• 35:25Speaker 03

  They all have the same hairstyle.

• 35:28Speaker 03

  Like, they all have the same hair.

• 35:30Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, yes.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  And you don't have to watch it, because, like, you already know Mormons like that. You know, you just explain, like, you know.

• 35:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me and Benson Boom.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, like that.

• 35:38Drew Afualo?

  We're well aware.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  That show is so good, though.

• 35:40Drew Afualo?

  Is it?

• 35:40Speaker 02

  It is, like, the drama is, like, actually really good. I am, like, living for it. It's kind of crazy, but, yeah.

• 35:46Speaker 03

  I haven't streamed.

• 35:47Speaker 02

  You haven't streamed? It's okay. I can fill you in.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  I need my sister, and I'm sure my sister also would recap that entire series. With pleasure.

• 35:55Drew Afualo?

  What's your favorite Housewives?

• 35:57Speaker 02

  Oh, I see, like, I haven't really, like, got, I'm recently getting into it. So, like, I've only really watched the Salt Lake franchise. I've watched, like, New Jersey when I was in high school, so I know, like, the, because that's family.

• 36:08Drew Afualo?

  Because that's family. That's family.

• 36:10Speaker 02

  Family, yeah, yeah.

• 36:11Drew Afualo?

  Family, for sure.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  And, like, a little bit of the OG New York, and then the current New York, but I can't get into the current.

• 36:17Speaker 03

  It's over.

• 36:18Speaker 02

  It's well.

• 36:18Drew Afualo?

  Damn.

• 36:19Speaker 02

  Go figure. I told you that. Let's like cast some new people.

• 36:23Drew Afualo?

  Salt Lake was with Jen Shaw.

• 36:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:26Drew Afualo?

  Yes, okay.

• 36:27Speaker 02

  Like, come on.

• 36:28Drew Afualo?

  Adam worked with Jen Shaw for a minute.

• 36:29Speaker 02

  You're kidding.

• 36:30Drew Afualo?

  No, you have to ask him for the download.

• 36:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. We're gonna be talking.

• 36:35Drew Afualo?

  He actually worked in several of those Housewives, like during the the height of that show.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  The height of that show was, you couldn't script that TV.

• 36:44Speaker 02

  No.

• 36:45Drew Afualo?

  I know, I really want to get into Housewives, because I was telling Eric this, actually.

• 36:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:48Drew Afualo?

  When I saw him last and we were talking, because he loves the Housewives.

• 36:51Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 36:52Drew Afualo?

  And I was telling him, I was like, I gotta get into it, because I feel like I watch it like I watch highlights, like I just see the highlight reels and I'm like, I'm loving this. But then I I just don't make the time to get into it.

• 37:03Speaker 02

  I do, I think that you got me into Salt Lake, because it was like an easy way to like just get in not too many seasons.

• 37:09Drew Afualo?

  Into the Housewives universe.

• 37:12Speaker 02

  And like you, the drama picks up almost immediately, so I would suggest the same, I think.

• 37:16Drew Afualo?

  Okay, tea.

• 37:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:17Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  Unless you have a like a lot of time and then start with the OG New York, I guess.

• 37:22Speaker 03

  OG New York is amazing. To see Bethenny Frankel's origin story, like before she, I mean, she honestly kind of always was giving like supervillain in some ways, but it really, you really see the misunderstood person that transforms into like Dr. Evil.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  And it is really fascinating to watch happen, yeah.

• 37:40Speaker 02

  A good person.

• 37:41Speaker 03

  My favorite part about those shows is like, you watch these people unravel in real time.

• 37:46Drew Afualo?

  Which is crazy.

• 37:46Speaker 03

  As the seasons progress.

• 37:47Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 37:48Speaker 03

  It's so dark, but I'm like, oh, I actually, I almost empathize. I'm like, I really see.

• 37:53Drew Afualo?

  You're doing it again.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  And you see their kids grow up too, which is like, the kids don't, the kids don't need this.

• 38:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 38:01Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? But like, I love, you know. Gia didn't need that, but a good person to talk about it with is Bowman, because he gave us some good suggestions too.

• 38:10Drew Afualo?

  Of course, he loves that as well.

• 38:11Speaker 02

  And skip seasons five through nine.

• 38:15Speaker 03

  Oh, it's algebra.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  I'm like, okay, it's algebra.

• 38:17Speaker 03

  You have to like know a full formula.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  The Pythagorean theorem.

• 38:21Drew Afualo?

  My sister was telling me, she said something about Vanderpump, like some somehow the Vanderpump world is tied into the Mormon wives world.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 38:28Drew Afualo?

  Like something like that. They're tied in in some way. I don't know, right? But when she was telling me, she was like, yeah, something about the Vanderpump Villa. I go Villa? When did they do that? And I said, wait, aren't the Vanderpumps a family? And she goes, no. And I go, who the hell is? Who are these people? If you're here and I'm here, who's flying the plane?

• 38:47Speaker 02

  It is a nightmare. It's a nightmare.

• 38:50Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, I'm, I, and honestly, that's, it's mirrors my confusion with like, white, famous, straight guys. So it's like, how I thought like Paul Mescal, Dylan Minette, and Logan Lerman, I thought they were all Logan Lerman.

• 39:03Speaker 02

  And they should be. They kind of should be, honestly. I wish.

• 39:07Drew Afualo?

  For years, I'm not even kidding. Like, I started doing this and I still thought that. And then when I did the Oscars a couple of years ago, when Paul Mescal was like, the guy, he's still the guy, but like at the time. And she was like, oh, Paul Mescal is really excited to meet you. Like, he loves TikTok and he, he knows you on TikTok. And then I go, I, I thought she said Pedro Pascal. So I was like, Pedro Pascal? And she goes, no, Paul Mescal. And I go, okay.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  Love him too.

• 39:30Drew Afualo?

  And then I told Jason, who is that?

• 39:32Speaker 03

  I'm sure Jason was freaking out.

• 39:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm sure.

• 39:35Drew Afualo?

  And I go, oh, so he's in Percy Jackson. She goes, who? No. And then I go, okay, so then, and she goes, no, that's Logan Lerman. I go, okay, and he's in Thirteen Reasons Why. And she goes, that's a completely different person too. I'm like, what are you talking about?

• 39:51Speaker 03

  It's fucked up that there's two of that. Dylan and Logan, that's weird. There should just be one.

• 39:57Drew Afualo?

  Knock it off. I'm pissed off.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  One of you has to decide.

• 40:00Drew Afualo?

  Fight to the death. I don't care.

• 40:02Speaker 03

  They're gearing up with each other.

• 40:03Drew Afualo?

  Get rid of it.

• 40:03Speaker 02

  One of you has to quit. Give it up. Give it up.

• 40:05Drew Afualo?

  Do you all have anything like that where it's like hard for you to keep people straight?

• 40:09Speaker 03

  I mean, you and Ben Platt took a while.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  Oh, girl, I had to shave my head.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  I had to shave my head to beat the Ben Platt allegation. Well, I love, I love Ben though. Like, it, it, it's been great. And, but the curls really were, so now that I've.

• 40:24Drew Afualo?

  That's actually so tea. I've never, I don't think you guys look alike, but I can see why maybe people would.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  We, I've talked about it with Ben and he was like, I don't think we look alike either. I genuinely don't. Maybe like familial, you know, but like cousins and energy.

• 40:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, cousins, not sisters.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  Anything we would do, any clip we would post, it would be like, okay, Ben Platt. I really thought this was Ben Platt for a second. Then I'm like, okay. And then I shaved my head and then I forgot what people were calling me. I've got Bad Bunny once. I said.

• 40:50Speaker 03

  That's something you hold on to for the rest of your life.

• 40:53Speaker 02

  Girl, you got pollen in the eyes.

• 40:55Drew Afualo?

  You're hurting my feelings because you're lying to me.

• 41:00Speaker 02

  I'm like, I actually will take that one and run with it for the rest of my life because I'm on BedBunny's Instagram like, we're so alike.

• 41:08Drew Afualo?

  That we're so alike.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  It's so crazy.

• 41:10Drew Afualo?

  We should hang out.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  No, yeah, but now I'm just me.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  In high school, so mind you, imagine being seventeen years old and being told, monthly, monthly, you look just like Jason Segel.

• 41:25Speaker 03

  And that was tough. That was tough as a seventeen year old.

• 41:28Drew Afualo?

  At seventeen, yeah, that's rough.

• 41:29Speaker 03

  And he was probably like in his, he was in his mid to late thirties. Just hollering at your mother, like it wasn't.

• 41:35Drew Afualo?

  He's getting older. Yeah, for sure.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  But then at one point I was like, time to lean in. I was like, I'm gonna start styling myself just like Jason Segel.

• 41:45Speaker 03

  And look at me now.

• 41:46Drew Afualo?

  It all worked out. And look at you now, Benson Boom.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Do you get anybody?

• 41:51Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, no. I think, I mean, I think the one I got the most when I started doing this was Lotto.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 41:58Drew Afualo?

  Which I was like, I think that's just a round face and huge eyes. And I'm not white, so there's that. But I was like, but I think that would hurt Lotto's feelings, which does kinda make me giggle a little bit. She'd be like, fuck you guys. Like if she heard me, were telling me that, which, okay, you know what?

• 42:15Speaker 02

  No.

• 42:15Drew Afualo?

  That reminds me though, when I was with Trixie recently, we were talking about, I forget what the fuck we were talking about, but I told her a running bit I have in my head is that, when I meet famous people that are built nothing like me and look nothing like me, I'll randomly throw this joke in conversation with them and I'll be like, well, we're built about the same. Where do you shop? And I just like, it makes me giggle, cause like, I, cause in my head, I'm like, I'm, obviously I know we look nothing alike, cause I'm not stupid, but I, I think it's fun to throw that at really famous people and see what they say. I've said it many times. And sometimes they throw it back and sometimes they don't. And when they don't, I'm always thinking in my head, it forces you to confront your like internalized biases immediately in live, real time in front of me.

• 43:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:00Drew Afualo?

  Cause like, why is that bad to look like me?

• 43:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:02Drew Afualo?

  You don't wanna look like me, why?

• 43:04Speaker 02

  That's a really good way to frame it.

• 43:05Drew Afualo?

  That, and so I think it's fun. Yeah. We're built about the same. Where do you shop? Well, I'll just borrow some of your clothes if that's cool.

• 43:12Speaker 02

  It's like Kristen Chenoweth, she's like.

• 43:16Speaker 02

  Like girl, girl, like it didn't have to be that serious.

• 43:19Drew Afualo?

  And I said in the video, I was like, like if I met Sydney Sweeney, I would make that joke.

• 43:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:23Drew Afualo?

  I just want to see what she says.

• 43:24Speaker 03

  I wonder how she'd respond.

• 43:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And honestly, I made that joke to Cynthia Revo and she laughed.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:29Drew Afualo?

  So there we go. And when I, when I said it to Cynthia.

• 43:33Drew Afualo?

  And when I said it to Cynthia Revo, I laughed when I said it to her because I was like, she's like, well, it's because we're twins. That's why. She said something like that.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  She bought it.

• 43:42Drew Afualo?

  And then I go, and we're equally as talented. And then we were looking at each other, I go, careful. You've never heard me sing, so you don't know.

• 43:50Speaker 02

  That's my line actually.

• 43:51Drew Afualo?

  You're, you're just as skilled as me, don't think you're more, okay? But yeah, I mean, I think it's fun. I think, and I think when you're really confident, it's okay to say shit like that because it doesn't hurt my feelings. Like nothing hurts my feelings.

• 44:03Speaker 02

  Right, yeah.

• 44:04Drew Afualo?

  Just like, nothing hurts your guys' feelings too. The most, the silliest things hurt your feelings, I'd say.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'm like, my feelings are always hurt, but not in a serious way.

• 44:14Drew Afualo?

  No, in the silliest of ways.

• 44:16Speaker 02

  That's so crazy, the place I'm at about me, but it's so fun.

• 44:19Speaker 03

  I am one of the most sensitive people on the planet. I, like, and since I was a child, I can dish it out. I cannot take it. I could say the meanest thing to your face if you even, like, ideate about saying it back, I'm crying. I'm like, that is so fucked up. That is so horrible.

• 44:34Drew Afualo?

  Self-awareness though is key.

• 44:36Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 44:36Drew Afualo?

  When you know, you're like, sorry, that's me.

• 44:38Speaker 03

  I'm very aware of how intolerable I am. That part locked in.

• 44:43Drew Afualo?

  That's actually perfect that you know a lot about yourselves because I actually have some fun facts about both of you.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  Oh god.

• 44:48Drew Afualo?

  Are you excited?

• 44:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:49Speaker 03

  I'm terrified.

• 44:50Drew Afualo?

  Okay, well, go with Joe first.

• 44:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 44:52Drew Afualo?

  Uh, it says on here that you were an assistant director at a theater company in high school.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  Like, how did they?

• 45:00Speaker 03

  I love how like you have guests where you Google that and it's like variety deadline.

• 45:06Speaker 03

  Vogue.

• 45:06Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 45:07Speaker 03

  And this is just, this is like actually from.

• 45:09Speaker 02

  High school production.

• 45:10Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 45:11Drew Afualo?

  High school.

• 45:11Speaker 03

  From the St. Anthony's High School Padawan.

• 45:13Drew Afualo?

  And did you, did you have fun as an assistant director?

• 45:15Speaker 03

  I did. I had a lot of fun. That was my first time, my first experience with stars. You know, that was really it. I was like a true friendless loser throughout all of high school, like in a, in a, like eating lunch alone in the caf, in the library, not even cafeteria. Like that was the level of reading The Hunger Games.

• 45:30Drew Afualo?

  Oh.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  And then I joined the theater company because I was like, something's got to give. It's this or it's a lot worse. So we're, we're the have to pick theater. Um, and it was a lot of fun. We did Barnum. We did anything Barnum. Oh, right. Okay. We did turn back the clock.

• 45:48Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 45:49Speaker 03

  And then we did anything goes, which people are familiar with.

• 45:52Drew Afualo?

  Okay, right.

• 45:52Speaker 03

  But it was, it was a lot of fun. I did nothing. I sat with a clipboard and I occasionally would have to read line.

• 46:01Speaker 00

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• 46:33Speaker 03

  When someone was upset and my level of social anxiety at the time, like it would be the line to be like, let's go to the store. And I would be reading it for 15 minutes.

• 46:46Drew Afualo?

  Over and over and over again.

• 46:47Speaker 03

  Where, but, but I'm like, all right, Joe, good. Good. Let's keep it moving.

• 46:51Speaker 02

  Wrap it up.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  So like, I would like to sit there for 15 minutes sweating afterwards, but it was great.

• 46:56Drew Afualo?

  Decompressing from your big, your big gig.

• 46:58Speaker 03

  My big, and I was always like, all I need is Phil to call out sick and I'm the leader of this fucking show.

• 47:06Speaker 03

  Cause I know every word and I, I'm more talented than every single one of these bitches.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Meanwhile, I couldn't speak.

• 47:13Speaker 03

  I was fully convinced that someone was gonna get mono and I would step in.

• 47:18Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 47:18Speaker 03

  Easy.

• 47:18Drew Afualo?

  And you're like, and I could fill those shoes.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  Smash.

• 47:22Drew Afualo?

  Like a Tonya Harding thing.

• 47:24Speaker 02

  You should kiss, like Jack, you should kiss Sabrina. Sabrina has mono.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  She's a T.

• 47:30Drew Afualo?

  You're like, oh, you're out? That's so weird. I'm just so happened to be prepared today.

• 47:34Speaker 02

  I have a full tap dance routine ready.

• 47:38Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I would have been your friend in high school, Joe.

• 47:40Speaker 03

  You definitely would have.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  I didn't go, just to clarify, I was not in that high school, so that's, that's why.

• 47:47Drew Afualo?

  That's why. You guys were reaching to each other metaphorically.

• 47:51Speaker 02

  Elementary and middle, but then I went to public school and Joe went to Catholic school.

• 47:55Drew Afualo?

  Damn. Well, then I'm not, then I'm not surprised then, that it was hard to make friends in a scary place like that.

• 48:01Speaker 03

  It was scary. It was so scary.

• 48:03Drew Afualo?

  Oogie spooky. Andrew, this one says that you used to be a trainer at F45.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  I did, yeah. Okay, I did. Absolutely correct.

• 48:15Drew Afualo?

  You're a group class queen.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  I'm a group class queen. I love it. It literally was my first introduction because I was working corporate for a while and I was in sales and like, you know, I love, I love talking to people and like I was talking to women in the Midwest, selling them travel. It was crazy. But then I think F45 was like my first intro to being like, I want to be on a stage. I want to entertain people. And it was like the actual like, not what the intention should be behind being a personal trainer, but I was like, something about getting 30 people in a room. I'm like, girls, let's get those deadlifts. Pick up that heavier weight. We got it. But yeah, it was, it was fun. I will say my boss at the time though was not fun. He wasn't, yeah. A lot of unfortunate body shaming.

• 49:00Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 49:00Speaker 02

  It was tough. It was definitely something that I learned along the way. I was like, because I've always, so obviously I grew up a lot bigger, but I always have been a bigger body in fitness.

• 49:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me too.

• 49:10Speaker 02

  You know, and like, but I, I, the reason I decided to get into fitness is one, because I lost weight in like such an unhealthy way. And I was like, I know people struggle with that. So like, I want to help people feel comfortable, like regardless, if you've never moved your body, like, let's do it with me.

• 49:26Drew Afualo?

  Totally.

• 49:26Speaker 02

  And yeah, I've always been a bigger body and there's always going to be people that comment on your body regardless if you're like, you know, have a six pack or not when you're in the fitness industry and my boss was very much that.

• 49:39Drew Afualo?

  Like to clients too or just trainers?

• 49:42Speaker 02

  To me specifically, and I would hear it from other trainers and I was like, I don't want to hear that. He said to my face, this is insane. He said to my face, um, maybe you should lay off the protein bars downstairs. I go.

• 49:56Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, are you stocking the protein bars?

• 49:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, sorry, do they come out of your paycheck?

• 49:59Speaker 02

  Are they caltein bars? I'm sorry, I'm gonna eat the protein bar now.

• 50:06Drew Afualo?

  Protein's good for you.

• 50:07Speaker 02

  But yeah, and it was like, we would do like little challenges and he'd be like, if you're feeling hungry, drink seltzer. I'm like, no girl, eat, eat. Brush your teeth. I'm like, no.

• 50:15Drew Afualo?

  Brush your teeth?

• 50:16Speaker 02

  Brush your teeth if you're hungry. That's, people are sick.

• 50:19Drew Afualo?

  That's just promoting eating disorders.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  But that has nothing to do with the F45 brand, it was just that man and he doesn't work there any longer, so.

• 50:25Drew Afualo?

  Thank god.

• 50:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, goodbye.

• 50:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but you love, but you found your love for performance.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I just like, you know?

• 50:32Drew Afualo?

  Attention.

• 50:33Speaker 02

  Attention. And then I walk around Williamsburg, I walk around Williamsburg, I'm like, one girl, like a girl named Sarah is like, Andrew, I'm like, hey Sarah.

• 50:44Speaker 02

  My friends are like, whoa, like everyone knows you around here. I'm like, yeah, it's kind of crazy.

• 50:51Drew Afualo?

  I do love your point about why you got into fitness though. That's actually why my man got into fitness too. Because my, my man's been a bigger person too, so have I, but he's, he was really, really overweight at one point and then helped, like basically taught himself how to like lose it in a way that was healthy.

• 51:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:07Drew Afualo?

  And so then, when he was training, he was the only trainer I ever saw that all his clients looked very different, like varying ages, ethnicities, like sizes, like all of that, because he was very like, movement is movement. Like what, what is movement is, is good for your body. Like that's, like that kind of mentality around fitness is so important.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  It's so important.

• 51:27Drew Afualo?

  So I'm glad, and I bet the girls loved you at F45.

• 51:31Speaker 02

  They were obsessed. You know, I was picking that good music.

• 51:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 51:35Speaker 02

  I was like coaching, but like, you know, I was talking to them about four minutes. I'm like, what'd you do last night? You see Jason last night?

• 51:44Drew Afualo?

  There's some crazy tea in gyms.

• 51:46Speaker 02

  Oh yeah.

• 51:47Drew Afualo?

  Crazy tea, especially amongst trainers. The craziest tea in the world.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:52Drew Afualo?

  And like, in our gym back home, like too, whenever there's tea, uh, now like my whole family goes to the same gym. So I'll be like, you'll never guess what I heard today. And it's, I love telling Billy's mom, I love telling her news. Cause she is so, every time I tell her anything, she goes, you're kidding. Every single time I tell, it could be, it could be like someone like died or, or they're opening a new store.

• 52:17Speaker 02

  You're kidding.

• 52:18Drew Afualo?

  Down the street, she goes.

• 52:18Speaker 02

  I actually do that.

• 52:19Drew Afualo?

  You're kidding.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  You're kidding.

• 52:22Drew Afualo?

  And she's a white lady, so let us.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  We have that, we have that together. What are your thoughts? We recently were just talking about this on our Patreon. What are your thoughts about a dog in a gym?

• 52:32Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 52:33Drew Afualo?

  Um, it depends on the, it depends on the kind of gym and it depends on the dog, the size of the dog.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  Okay, let's say, let's say this gym was a main gym franchise.

• 52:43Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 52:44Speaker 02

  This man wants to work out on the floor.

• 52:46Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  And he's going around to people that are sitting down with his cocker spaniel saying, anyone wanna watch this cute dog?

• 52:54Drew Afualo?

  No, that's bullshit.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, you're looking for a baby, a dog sitter and you're gonna do some reverse flies? Sorry.

• 53:02Drew Afualo?

  You're gonna do deadlifts while I watch your cocker spaniel?

• 53:05Speaker 03

  We're losing the plot.

• 53:06Speaker 02

  We're losing the plot.

• 53:07Drew Afualo?

  Go ahead and download a wag and get the fuck out of here.

• 53:12Drew Afualo?

  No, that's crazy. I did used to take my dog to the gym, but that was because it was a private gym and we wanted to watch him. But we trained him, so he has a stroller. And so he would just sit in the stroller and he did, he never gets out of it, never barks at anyone. And we'd just park him somewhere, like park him right there so he could see us. And he would just sit in there and just watch us.

• 53:30Speaker 02

  A private gym is different.

• 53:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 53:32Speaker 02

  You're at an Equinox. And it's a multi floor, it's a multi floor gym. And you're walking up the stairs with your cocker spaniel and you're going to the people that are on a Zoom call trying to do work.

• 53:42Speaker 03

  It pisses me off.

• 53:43Speaker 02

  Pissing you off.

• 53:45Drew Afualo?

  That's so crazy to be like, anyone? Any take?

• 53:51Speaker 02

  I'm like.

• 53:51Drew Afualo?

  Anyone wanna watch my dog? Don't know you, but.

• 53:55Speaker 03

  It makes me so mad.

• 53:57Drew Afualo?

  That's like an unbelievable level of entitlement.

• 53:59Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 53:59Drew Afualo?

  To be like, you don't wanna watch my dog. Let me get this straight. No one in here wants to watch my dog?

• 54:06Drew Afualo?

  Um, no.

• 54:09Drew Afualo?

  Get a grip. Okay, next fun fact about Joe. It says you used to work at BuzzFeed.

• 54:15Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 54:16Speaker 03

  Yes, I did.

• 54:17Drew Afualo?

  That was, honestly, that was my Mecca when I was in college. I was like, if I could work there.

• 54:22Speaker 03

  It was the goal. Exactly. I wanted it so badly. Like, I, it was like, I got there a little too late. You know, it was like past the point of its like massive peak. It was like no longer as cool as it used to be. But like all of college, I was sending in cover letters every single day.

• 54:39Drew Afualo?

  Me too. That's so funny, me too.

• 54:42Speaker 03

  No work experience, being like, hire me. Please hire me. I'll do anything. I wanted to be there so badly.

• 54:46Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 54:47Speaker 03

  Which in retrospect, I just wanted to be on camera. Like, I just wanted to be trying something on camera.

• 54:52Drew Afualo?

  Same. I was like, I'm gonna get in there. They're gonna make me an intern. And they're gonna make me run papers, but then they're gonna see how magnetic and awesome I am. And then they're gonna be like, do you wanna be in this video? And I'm gonna be like, I guess.

• 55:02Speaker 03

  That was exactly the goal.

• 55:04Speaker 02

  Like, TV videos?

• 55:05Speaker 03

  Never happened ever. It did not happen.

• 55:07Drew Afualo?

  Americans try British snacks, like stuff like that.

• 55:10Speaker 03

  Exactly. I was so desperate for it. And instead, what I did was parenting content. I was twenty-one years old, fresh, like graduated, immediately got the job, was a parenting content expert. I was teaching people how to make art with their placenta. I was teaching people how to make like Baby Bjorn's DIY. That's so dangerous.

• 55:33Drew Afualo?

  Don't do that. That's dangerous.

• 55:35Speaker 02

  You can't even build a dresser. You're teaching people how to do a Baby Bjorn.

• 55:38Speaker 03

  Well, let's not talk about building dressers. I could build a dresser very well. It was literally like the, it was that, like you lie on your resume situation. I was like, oh, here we are. I'm just gonna give new parents expert advice on parenting. But so much of it was like UGC, where I had to like reach out to a creator and be like, hey, can we, can BuzzFeed, the conglomerate corporation, use your video for free and make ourselves like a million dollars in ad revenue? And so that was also always very shameful on my personal accounts, like on my Facebook being like, hi, how are you? This in perpetuity, we will be able to own this video. And everyone said yes.

• 56:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, because it's BuzzFeed.

• 56:17Speaker 03

  Right. I was there for the, like, when they started their layoffs, and that was a nightmare disaster. Like, it was really so wild to watch happen.

• 56:26Drew Afualo?

  Did come at the end of the empire.

• 56:27Speaker 03

  Literally the very end. I watched everything. I watched it go up and immediately down. But amazing peanut butter filled pretzels, amazing chocolate brownie bitter bitter bite something brittle. Goldfish every single day. I so many cups of like Starbursts, frozen yogurt, the tasty kitchen. That was like, that was the hunger game.

• 56:48Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 56:50Speaker 03

  And now I'm like, whoa, that I was a part of history.

• 56:52Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 56:53Speaker 03

  I was watching the tasty kitchen happen. And they'd be like, triple layer corn tortilla quesadillas in the tasty kitchen. And people would start running, like the slack would come in and you would get up from their desks and sprint.

• 57:08Drew Afualo?

  They're slacking. I'll be right back.

• 57:11Speaker 03

  Running, running, running. And it happened every single day. And I was always like too ashamed to be one of those people. I was like, I can't. I can't run for the tortillas today. But eventually I was like this, once the layoffs happened, I was.

• 57:22Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 57:23Speaker 03

  I was like wealth hoarding. I was robbing.

• 57:25Drew Afualo?

  Right. When I worked at the NFL, it was similar, like in the sense of the shit they bring into the office is like, whoa, this is crazy. But it's almost like to distract you from all the other shit.

• 57:37Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 57:38Drew Afualo?

  When I tell you people would be running to go get free shit, like they were like, I could hear like flat slapping and shit on the tiles and they're like running.

• 57:50Drew Afualo?

  Tory birch sandals.

• 57:52Speaker 03

  Literally that. It was so, so, so crazy. I did get to be in like one video and then I, oh my God, do you know who Hannah Bronfman is? Are you familiar?

• 58:01Drew Afualo?

  I'm not sure.

• 58:01Speaker 03

  She was like an old, like one of the OG OG influencers. She was like a rich girl. And I was finally in a video. It was like the first time I ever got to be in something and she like interviewed me in Union Square Park. And I was like, this is gonna be my big break. This is it. And like the next day it was layoffs. And then the next day it was whoever was in charge of that video. Got fired and erased the hard drive out of spite. So it never happened.

• 58:28Drew Afualo?

  Damn, you said my one chance.

• 58:31Speaker 03

  I was like, that's about my cue to wrap this up.

• 58:34Drew Afualo?

  Right, I would say like, when I was still working corporate, I once got asked to be in a Jubilee video. And this was before they started doing these really intense like political things. Right, and so like, they asked me to come, they gave me a very loose concept and like, I was thinking the same shit. I was like, I'm gonna be a fucking star in this video and the people are gonna be like, bring that girl back.

• 58:58Drew Afualo?

  And so the video itself was like, I was gonna look at pictures of people's Instagrams and then like, basically make commentary on who I thought they were as a person. And so I thought it was like, supposed to be funny. Like, I figured it's like, I'm not gonna be super, super mean, I'm gonna like, make silly quips about what I think they like, based off what I saw. And so I was just kind of gently, lightly roasting, I wasn't being mean, but I was just like, I don't know, like, making a bunch of jokes. I was cracking those bitches up. Like, they were laughing their ass off when I was, and I remember one joke I made in particular. It, someone's profile I was looking at, they had a lot of designer stuff. But it was all Gucci and it was all like the older print.

• 59:41Drew Afualo?

  And I was like, well, you know, this is like, I, obviously they want people to know they, they have style, they like Gucci, like designer. And I was like, but it's giving like, it's like consignment Gucci, like those stores out in Palm Springs. Like, on your way home from Coachella, you're like, I'm gonna stop and get a Gucci bag. And it's like a quarter of the price. And they were dying laughing. Mind you, before this, I went in a waiting room and I was sitting with like four other people, all of whom were in the video. And I thought we were all on the same page. The one guy that I made fun of for the Gucci shit was like actually mad at me that I made that joke. And I was like, it's a joke and it's not.

• 1:00:14Speaker 02

  He's like, mm, that's real good.

• 1:00:18Drew Afualo?

  And I never said it wasn't. I said, you got it in Palm Springs. And I think I hit you because that's why he got so mad. And like, basically, he kind of kicked up a stink about that joke. And then it almost, the way that they pitched it to me, like, they never really told me why it never went out because they never published the video. But I think what it was is like, I think we all had very different ideas. I think they were all like, they seem nice. They seem like we would go to the beach and have a good time. And I was like, this person looks like they love a Disney proposal. Like, I was making jokes. Like, I was, I thought we were joking. I thought everybody was making jokes. And then I think it was just too lopsided and made no sense. And then it just never went anywhere. But the whole time, I called that a work that day. I made my sister come with me, drove my Prius down there.

• 1:00:59Speaker 02

  Wait, let's reach out.

• 1:01:01Drew Afualo?

  The lost files.

• 1:01:03Speaker 02

  Looking for it every single day.

• 1:01:06Drew Afualo?

  I remember it was like, this is gonna be my big break. Never saw the light of day. Forced to work in corporate America for another 10 years.

• 1:01:17Drew Afualo?

  So, I get it. Trust me. Uh, okay, Andrew's next fun fact. Uh, it says you were a financial intern for Congress.

• 1:01:28Speaker 02

  I was hoping to God I'd hear those.

• 1:01:30Drew Afualo?

  Girl, what are you doing in Congress?

• 1:01:34Speaker 02

  No, that was really, it was such an interesting time in my life. But even just like the idea of being a finance major was a lot, um, at the time.

• 1:01:44Drew Afualo?

  Well, yes.

• 1:01:45Speaker 02

  Correct. Um, yeah, I, I decided to take an unpaid internship, senior year of college. I went to school in Baltimore, so I still had to take the train every day, or, um, twice a week. And yeah, I was working on the Financial Services Committee. I was just sitting in on their meetings and I was like.

• 1:02:02Drew Afualo?

  Not absorbing anything.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  Taking notes. Literally, taking notes and would have to like brief different congresspeople on like what was being said if they had to miss the, the hearing. And I'm like, I'm not.

• 1:02:14Drew Afualo?

  So you're just like a meeting attender?

• 1:02:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was, I was literally a meeting attender. And then I was also like, working for different people in Congress, just like answering phones and just like getting screamed at. People are screaming about, and I'm writing, this is the thing, alright, you want to talk about the government? I don't, but, let's talk about the government. I'm the one, I was the one that was writing the letters back to people. I was formatting these things, people were calling me about their taxes, I had to be emailing them, like, I'm so sorry to hear that that's how you feel about your taxes. Like, the congressperson, the congresspeople didn't even know.

• 1:02:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and they don't care.

• 1:02:48Speaker 02

  Fell on a 21-year-old that wasn't being paid.

• 1:02:50Drew Afualo?

  A 21-year-old twink.

• 1:02:51Speaker 02

  Twink, no, no, no, no, a 21-year-old twink in a suit, alright?

• 1:02:57Speaker 03

  On Grindr.

• 1:02:57Speaker 02

  On, no, no.

• 1:02:59Drew Afualo?

  On Grindr, on office hours.

• 1:03:00Speaker 02

  No, genuinely, I probably was on Grindr at the time.

• 1:03:03Drew Afualo?

  I bet there was a ton of hits in fucking Congress.

• 1:03:06Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely. And no, because you know what, they wouldn't be showing face, they would be DL.

• 1:03:11Speaker 03

  That's torso.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  Torso, torso and suit. Torso and suit, I think it would be, yeah, for sure, yeah, but, yeah, I worked in Congress, so.

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  Who's to say, who, yeah, who's to say what?

• 1:03:24Drew Afualo?

  What could have happened?

• 1:03:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I thought that was my big break.

• 1:03:28Speaker 02

  Talking about big breaks, yeah.

• 1:03:30Drew Afualo?

  Imagining you in Congress is just insane.

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  No, I, I, I won my superlative in high school, most likely to become president, and like, I don't know, I was living this life that I thought I was gonna be a politician, and um, now I talk about dick on the internet, so like, who's to say you can't?

• 1:03:44Drew Afualo?

  So every path is different.

• 1:03:46Speaker 02

  Every path is different.

• 1:03:47Drew Afualo?

  Things took a more serious turn.

• 1:03:49Speaker 02

  Exactly. Who's to say, when I'm 45 years old, I might maybe I'm running for president?

• 1:03:55Drew Afualo?

  Right, maybe when you grow tired of fame, fame and fortune.

• 1:04:00Speaker 02

  Because I'm, girl, I'm tired. I'm tired of all that fortune.

• 1:04:07Speaker 02

  Oh, god.

• 1:04:08Drew Afualo?

  That is so funny, and also so real, especially about responding to like constituents, because my sister and I had to do that too when we worked together in corporate. Same thing, like, it's like getting screamed at for a living is just truly nuts, because, and people are genuinely upset for what I believe is a valid reason. I'm just not the guy.

• 1:04:26Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:04:27Drew Afualo?

  Like, I'm just, I'm here on your porch in a too-small polo, like, that's my job, unfortunately, I hate the government too. I was like, girl, fuck the freeway, I hate them.

• 1:04:36Speaker 02

  You're talking to me about taxes, I'm thinking about what pizza slices I'm about to get, I'm on my parents' insurance, like, I'm sorry.

• 1:04:43Drew Afualo?

  I remember so distinctly one time, Jason, Jason used to have to field calls from really angry like constituents. For the job we had and I remember there was one time this, this old ass, one thing about old person, like they're gonna complain.

• 1:04:56Speaker 02

  Oh, of course.

• 1:04:57Drew Afualo?

  An old person is going to call a number and complain or write a letter. And so it was always old people and they like called and wanted to know. What kind of asphalt was being used on the freeway? Why? I don't fucking know.

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:05:11Drew Afualo?

  But my sister literally had to call an engineer. And ask them like what kind of asphalt's being used on the freeway and they were like, why do they need to know that? She goes, I don't fucking know, they just. Need to know and so they was like, well, it depends. And then she had to listen to that person talk for hours. And she called back that old man and be like, it's actually this kind of asphalt and he's like, why would they use that? And she's like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

• 1:05:36Drew Afualo?

  It's like born to be funny, forced to do this shit.

• 1:05:42Drew Afualo?

  And my sister, she jokes all the time about how like, I used to go to the bathroom on the clock. And I was like, well, I finished my work by 12pm. What the fuck am I supposed to do? What else am I supposed to do?

• 1:05:51Speaker 02

  You were sitting in the stall.

• 1:05:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, girl. I was just sitting in there. No one can bother me in there.

• 1:05:57Speaker 03

  I used to book studio spaces. I wasn't even allowed to do that and I would, I would, I would have my full-time employee, like coworker do it because I was permalands, no. Rights, no anything.

• 1:06:08Drew Afualo?

  Right. Me at the NFL too.

• 1:06:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, which is amazing.

• 1:06:12Drew Afualo?

  Same, no health insurance, no nothing.

• 1:06:13Speaker 03

  And they could just drop you whenever they wanted.

• 1:06:14Drew Afualo?

  Yes, exactly. Yes.

• 1:06:17Speaker 03

  I would have her book me a studio space so I could do Instagram photo shoots during the workday.

• 1:06:23Speaker 02

  And you were.

• 1:06:24Speaker 03

  And I was, they were going up every single day, every day.

• 1:06:27Drew Afualo?

  Every day, right.

• 1:06:29Speaker 03

  I'm gonna get the job done.

• 1:06:30Speaker 02

  Joe is just stunting in his outfit and a chunky sneaker. He's like.

• 1:06:36Drew Afualo?

  He's straying lighting.

• 1:06:38Speaker 03

  They have children.

• 1:06:40Speaker 02

  Did it go through about five different routes of a face tune process?

• 1:06:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:44Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:06:44Speaker 03

  It became mixed media always.

• 1:06:47Drew Afualo?

  By the end, it looks real AI.

• 1:06:52Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God. Thinking about you working in Congress is still making me giggle. That is so funny. Okay, for Joe's, this one, I found a Christmas list from when you were a child. And your Christmas list on here, it says, it says Joe's Christmas list.

• 1:07:09Drew Afualo?

  And on the very top, it says, littlest pet shop display and play Pet Nooks, Dove and Brown Owl, three ninety-nine each.

• 1:07:16Speaker 03

  Whoa, look at the prices.

• 1:07:17Drew Afualo?

  I like how you're putting the pricing on there.

• 1:07:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, but some of those get pricey. I'm like, what was I thinking?

• 1:07:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, the next one is.

• 1:07:22Speaker 03

  Can I tell you, I bought a little pet shop on eBay and it got delivered yesterday, one of the, like, a turtle because of that. I was like, I need that back.

• 1:07:29Drew Afualo?

  Because of your, uh, Christmas list, obviously. It says, Aviva Pinata Party Animals for three sixty, forty-nine ninety-nine.

• 1:07:37Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 1:07:38Drew Afualo?

  That's a video game, yeah?

• 1:07:39Speaker 03

  That's a video game.

• 1:07:40Drew Afualo?

  I do remember Viva Pinata. For the Xbox three sixties.

• 1:07:45Speaker 02

  What was the song?

• 1:07:46Speaker 03

  The Pinata.

• 1:07:51Speaker 03

  And I was obsessed with it. Viva Pinata, filled with fun, filled with fun. Andrew, like, watched me do it.

• 1:08:01Speaker 02

  Like, you're breeding Pinatas?

• 1:08:04Drew Afualo?

  That's so funny. When I play Sims, I feel like I turn into the most, like, aggressive trad wife. When I play Sims, I'm like, you're at home and you're having children and I'm sending that bitch to work, right? I'm saying, cause so he doesn't bother us and then you're gonna raise children. And that's like, that's literally what I do on Sims and maybe it's because I, that life seems so god awful and horrible to me now, like being a trad wife. So I'm like, I just wanna see. And then I like to raise, like, almost like a family that has nothing to do with the man at all. Like, I just, like, nothing at all. And she's raising all these children and then they all move away from him. That's what I do every time I play Sims. Me playing God.

• 1:08:40Speaker 03

  They move away.

• 1:08:41Drew Afualo?

  All women and no men.

• 1:08:44Drew Afualo?

  Making the Wonder Woman island by myself.

• 1:08:49Drew Afualo?

  It says you wanted Wii controller skins.

• 1:08:51Speaker 03

  What the hell?

• 1:08:52Drew Afualo?

  Uh, Mad Cat's Xbox 360.

• 1:08:55Speaker 03

  Don't know what that is. No clue.

• 1:08:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, lots of games. Oh, it says, "Who Wants to be a Millionaire DVD game."

• 1:09:02Speaker 03

  Oh, that's fine. You still want to be a millionaire?

• 1:09:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, I haven't gotten that.

• 1:09:08Drew Afualo?

  And the next one says, "Deal or No Deal game."

• 1:09:10Speaker 03

  That makes sense. That's honest work.

• 1:09:14Speaker 03

  That one's fine to me.

• 1:09:16Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my gosh, you would make a great briefcase girl on Deal or No Deal.

• 1:09:20Speaker 03

  I would love. I actually would love. That's my goal now. That's my make or break moment.

• 1:09:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, then you're like.

• 1:09:29Speaker 03

  The Meghan Markle gift with the $5. Yeah.

• 1:09:34Drew Afualo?

  I think you would kill without.

• 1:09:36Speaker 03

  I would kill. Yeah.

• 1:09:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, lots of video games, Bionicle.

• 1:09:39Speaker 03

  I feel, of course. Yeah, always.

• 1:09:41Drew Afualo?

  It says, "Bionicle Heroes for Wii," and then after that says, "Dancing with the Stars for Wii."

• 1:09:46Speaker 03

  I was getting to work. That's why you need those skins, Joe.

• 1:09:52Drew Afualo?

  You're planning something.

• 1:09:53Speaker 03

  Every game show imaginable. It's still, the through line is the same. There's a search for stardom throughout all of this.

• 1:10:01Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely, there is. Yeah, your Webkinz on here, it has the one specifically that you want.

• 1:10:06Speaker 03

  Which was whom?

• 1:10:06Drew Afualo?

  It says, "Charcoal Cat, Turtle, Love Frog, and Yellow Lab."

• 1:10:11Speaker 03

  And I still have that Love Frog to this day. So, listen, the money was worth it. We were in the recession. I was asking my parents for $2,000 of video games, and everyone was happy.

• 1:10:22Drew Afualo?

  You were prepping for your inevitable startup.

• 1:10:24Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 1:10:25Drew Afualo?

  Would y'all do Dancing with the Stars?

• 1:10:26Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:10:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Neither would I, honestly.

• 1:10:30Speaker 03

  I can't even clap. I would eat it up. You know, like, I've accepted that. You would do excellently. I would, people would be like.

• 1:10:36Drew Afualo?

  Andrew, I think you would kill.

• 1:10:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I would be on the floor. My, I would be pointing my toes. My legs would be behind my head. I would find a way.

• 1:10:44Drew Afualo?

  You'd be pointing your toes.

• 1:10:45Speaker 03

  I would be doing silks.

• 1:10:46Drew Afualo?

  And you'd be like, silks?

• 1:10:48Speaker 03

  Pink is like, on her couch, like. Tumbling from the sky. Me and Pink are in the same season.

• 1:10:55Drew Afualo?

  You'd be pointing your toe and have the little heel on.

• 1:10:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh, of course.

• 1:10:58Drew Afualo?

  Little dancer heel.

• 1:10:59Speaker 02

  I would, I would love.

• 1:11:00Drew Afualo?

  You would love?

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  Just anything.

• 1:11:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'm good.

• 1:11:04Speaker 02

  You know, I can't even do that.

• 1:11:07Drew Afualo?

  Asking too much.

• 1:11:08Speaker 02

  Let's not risk it.

• 1:11:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I feel like, I feel like when you're on Dancing with the Stars, I feel like you're running for homecoming queen.

• 1:11:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:14Drew Afualo?

  That's kind of how it seems, huh? They're like, don't forget, don't forget, don't forget.

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  And then you get voted out and you're like, everyone hates me.

• 1:11:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:22Speaker 02

  That's how I would go, yeah.

• 1:11:23Drew Afualo?

  Right, oh, so you all hate me.

• 1:11:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, cuz I think like, if I was in like, any sort of reality show where it was based off like, likability.

• 1:11:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:32Drew Afualo?

  I would kill.

• 1:11:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:33Drew Afualo?

  So like, in Love Island, like, I, if I was in a Love Island situation, I'm just trying to be the best person, like, the one that everyone's like, oh, but I love them.

• 1:11:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:42Drew Afualo?

  And they just keep, they couple up with me.

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:44Drew Afualo?

  So that I stay in the house.

• 1:11:45Speaker 02

  Right, yeah. What about like a Big Brother for you?

• 1:11:47Drew Afualo?

  I don't really know the rules of Big Brother, like, how do you leave Big Brother?

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  I feel like it's also, I, I feel like it's similar to a like, Survivor without the survival aspect. It's like, it's just, um.

• 1:11:57Drew Afualo?

  I see.

• 1:11:57Speaker 02

  It's a game, yeah, it's like, uh, what's, how would you explain that?

• 1:12:01Drew Afualo?

  Is it like a murder mystery kind of thing, or?

• 1:12:03Speaker 02

  No, no, no, it's like, I trust you, like, we're forming alliances, and then it's like, you're gonna turn on somebody.

• 1:12:10Drew Afualo?

  Someone else, but you vote on each other.

• 1:12:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:12Drew Afualo?

  Okay, oh no, I'm thinking traitors of like, the murder mystery thing.

• 1:12:15Speaker 02

  Traitors, yeah, that's, that's, it's, they're all kind of similar at this point, so you have to form alliances.

• 1:12:19Speaker 03

  I would love traitors.

• 1:12:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:21Speaker 03

  I could do traitors.

• 1:12:22Drew Afualo?

  What about you, Andrew? What's a dream reality show?

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  A dream, a dream reality show, hmm.

• 1:12:30Speaker 03

  Okay, we wanna do The Amazing Race.

• 1:12:32Speaker 02

  Oh, we want, yeah, we wanna do The Amazing Race.

• 1:12:33Drew Afualo?

  Guys should do The Amazing Race.

• 1:12:36Speaker 03

  We've been meaning to film an audition date.

• 1:12:37Speaker 02

  We've been saying.

• 1:12:38Speaker 03

  You really wanna go on The Amazing Race. We'd be an amazing contestant.

• 1:12:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:41Drew Afualo?

  You would.

• 1:12:42Speaker 03

  And we'd love to race.

• 1:12:43Drew Afualo?

  I will vouch, I will vouch for you.

• 1:12:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've, I've submitted, uh, auditions for different, um, uh, for different reality shows. The Mole, have you ever heard of The Mole?

• 1:12:52Drew Afualo?

  I've heard of it, but I've never watched it.

• 1:12:54Speaker 03

  You were gonna be on The Mole, that was a big week.

• 1:12:55Speaker 02

  I've recent, I recently sent in Fear Factor.

• 1:12:58Drew Afualo?

  Did you?

• 1:12:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't even, the thing about me, the thing about me is I would do anything.

• 1:13:07Speaker 02

  I would do anything.

• 1:13:08Drew Afualo?

  I know you are an adrenaline junkie, so you were saying you would, you would thrive in a situation like that.

• 1:13:12Speaker 02

  I would thrive in a situation like that. I also just like wanna chat with some people, you know, put it on a camera, like, let's see how it goes.

• 1:13:19Drew Afualo?

  The Amazing Race, I am so voting for you guys.

• 1:13:22Speaker 02

  We would be, I, I think- It would be so fucking funny.

• 1:13:25Drew Afualo?

  I know, you guys would kill.

• 1:13:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:29Speaker 02

  You leave without a license. I, I can't drive, so Andrew is driving the whole time.

• 1:13:35Speaker 02

  So worth it. It'd be such incredible television. There would be like actually two hours of just silence.

• 1:13:41Drew Afualo?

  I know. They'd be like, can you guys talk to each other, please? And they're like, we're fighting.

• 1:13:46Drew Afualo?

  When you're fighting.

• 1:13:48Speaker 02

  It's so good.

• 1:13:49Drew Afualo?

  You know what's funny? A few years ago, like, I think it was like a couple of years ago, um, I got like something from The Amazing Race, but they were asking about me and my man. Like to join it and I was like, oh, so you want me to break up on television? I, I'm not having those kinds of fights. With my sister, I would. With my man, no. I was like, no, I don't want you to see me though.

• 1:14:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:10Drew Afualo?

  To test my friendships.

• 1:14:11Speaker 02

  We have to have a full season shot already. Yes. And then we could go on The Amazing Race because who's to say what's gonna happen?

• 1:14:19Drew Afualo?

  You guys are gonna make it to the end.

• 1:14:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:20Drew Afualo?

  That's literally, and that, I love the idea of you guys going from country to country, like, flying on planes and shit and getting there.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  We're just complaining.

• 1:14:30Speaker 02

  Completely complaining the whole time.

• 1:14:32Drew Afualo?

  You're under the bridge again. You're like, what the fuck? We're here again. Can't be here.

• 1:14:41Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, I'm voting for you guys. I'm, I'm rooting for y'all. I'm gonna put in words where I can for that. Okay, this last one for Andrew, it says, in college, you were in Loyola Chimes, the all-male a cappella group.

• 1:14:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was.

• 1:14:54Drew Afualo?

  You're such a, you're a man of many hats, both of you are.

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, we, we've, we've worn a lot of hats. I will say it was a fully- Barefoot group, so no shoes, no socks. Feet on the floor, khaki pants, button down shirt and a tie. Yeah.

• 1:15:08Drew Afualo?

  And why, why bare feet?

• 1:15:10Speaker 02

  They said it was a tradition and sometimes. Exactly. Exactly. When you hear the word tradition, sometimes you just accept it blindly.

• 1:15:19Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:15:20Speaker 02

  So we all were just, uh, I, you, listen.

• 1:15:23Drew Afualo?

  Dogs out.

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  Exactly. That was also another moment. That was a kind of my Troy Bolton moment because I was playing lacrosse up until that point, which was another hat I was wearing. Wild. Um, yeah.

• 1:15:33Drew Afualo?

  Sporty spice.

• 1:15:34Speaker 02

  I was sporty spice and I was playing lacrosse sophomore year of college and then I was like, you know what? Like, I'm trying out for the a cappella group. Um, and I'll never forget, I called my mom and she was like, that is so sweet. You have such a good personality. They'll teach you how to sing. No one in my life knew I really could sing. I would only sing in the shower and then I auditioned and I, I made it and I got, and I had a few solos, I would say. Um, but yeah, it was a great time. It was basically like the fraternity on campus. Um, there was no, there was no football team, so we were like the jock.

• 1:16:09Speaker 02

  The line.

• 1:16:10Drew Afualo?

  These barefoot a cappella men?

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  They were like, oh, they're so hot.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  That's how I found my, that's how I got my, um, got my, that's how I, uh, got in contact with my girlfriend at the time, which was another hat.

• 1:16:25Speaker 03

  The way that you even just phrased.

• 1:16:27Speaker 02

  I got my girlfriend.

• 1:16:28Drew Afualo?

  My, um.

• 1:16:29Speaker 02

  I got in contact.

• 1:16:30Drew Afualo?

  The way you were like, my, um, girlfriend.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  I got in contact with my girlfriend at the time.

• 1:16:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:37Drew Afualo?

  We touched base, me and my girlfriend at the time.

• 1:16:39Speaker 02

  At the time. I, my solo was accidentally in love and she came up to me afterwards and goes, I think I'm accidentally in love with you.

• 1:16:46Drew Afualo?

  From Shrek?

• 1:16:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. Why were you thinking I was serving Shrek? I'm more of a, of a Fiona.

• 1:16:52Drew Afualo?

  From Shrek?

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  No, I'm actually more of a Lord Farquhar.

• 1:16:57Drew Afualo?

  That's

• 1:16:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:16:59Speaker 02

  And I've left singing in the past, but I do love to sing. I miss it.

• 1:17:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:03Speaker 02

  There's something, there is, there is this, this shame around singing, I think, once you like graduate from an a cappella group and you start posting videos of yourself singing on the internet, it just feels different. You know, it just feels different. Like, you need to hear me singing D. Revan Hansen the musical, like.

• 1:17:18Drew Afualo?

  Waving Through a Window.

• 1:17:19Speaker 02

  Waving Through a Window. Maybe one day.

• 1:17:21Drew Afualo?

  Waving Through a Window was my number one song one year when I was working in corporate America. And I, if that doesn't tell you what my ideation was at the time, I don't know what will.

• 1:17:29Speaker 02

  But see, like, but were you hitting that last note? Cause that shit's high.

• 1:17:32Drew Afualo?

  Oh, absolutely. I was singing that. I was singing my ass off.

• 1:17:35Speaker 02

  If you ever want to take it back, we need to get in the car together and we'll just sing Waving Through a Window. That'll be the time of my life. That'll be the time of my life.

• 1:17:42Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, I would love to do that. I'm still stuck on barefoot. That's crazy. Bare feet on the floor. And they're like, a man's man.

• 1:17:48Speaker 02

  I'll, I'll send you some pics and some videos. Well, I mean, I'll send you some pics of the bare feet. For sure.

• 1:17:55Drew Afualo?

  Maybe the bare feet was like a dominance thing. Maybe they were like, they're gonna be so thrown off by their bare feet. They're not even gonna realize what we're about to hit them with. Angelic voices.

• 1:18:04Speaker 02

  Angelic voices.

• 1:18:05Drew Afualo?

  What were you, like a tenor or a?

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  So I was a baritone. But I really, I was a baritone in the background, but I could take it anywhere you needed me to.

• 1:18:14Drew Afualo?

  Make no mistake about that.

• 1:18:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. You needed falsetto? Don't even worry about it. I was there.

• 1:18:19Drew Afualo?

  I made that joke actually to, to Cynthia Revo again too. I was, we were talking about those kinds of classifications of voice. And I was like, I'm an alto, whatever. I'm a fucking chorus girl. Whatever. I'm always in the chorus.

• 1:18:32Speaker 03

  I'm always in the chorus.

• 1:18:33Speaker 02

  Never the main.

• 1:18:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, never the main, always in the background. Well, thank you guys so much for coming back.

• 1:18:39Speaker 02

  Thank you for having us.

• 1:18:40Drew Afualo?

  I fucking love y'all.

• 1:18:41Speaker 02

  I love you too.

• 1:18:42Drew Afualo?

  Time flies when you're having fun with your girls. I can't wait to see y'all on The Amazing Race.

• 1:18:47Speaker 03

  Thank you. Thank you so much.

• 1:18:48Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:18:48Drew Afualo?

  I'm for real gonna be boots on the ground. Like, I'll, I'll be like doing that. Joe and Andrew can't post right now, but make sure you guys, make sure you guys vote for them. Yeah. Posting for me, man.

• 1:19:00Speaker 02

  That's probably our make it moment.

• 1:19:02Speaker 03

  You two be on The Amazing Race. Please.

• 1:19:06Drew Afualo?

  I fucking love y'all. Thank you for coming back. It's my favorite All-Stars ever. For the maybe one person that doesn't know who you are, uh, where can everybody find y'all?

• 1:19:16Speaker 03

  You can find us across all platforms at Good Children Pod. Every single Wednesday, a brand new episode.

• 1:19:22Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 1:19:23Speaker 02

  And a rebrand. is coming in.

• 1:19:25Drew Afualo?

  Yes, for a very, very fun and exciting reason.

• 1:19:27Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:19:29Drew Afualo?

  And what about individual handles?

• 1:19:31Speaker 02

  Yes, you can find me on Instagram at Andrew Muscarella and on TikTok at Andrew underscore Musky.

• 1:19:38Speaker 03

  You can find me on TikTok at Be Quiet Joe and on Instagram at Joe Hedges, H E G Y E S.

• 1:19:46Drew Afualo?

  And thankfully, they are not working at BuzzFeed or Congress anymore. They're just being hilarious for a living. Thank God. That's what that's that's in God's plan for both of y'all.

• 1:19:54Speaker 03

  Our way back to Congress.

• 1:19:56Speaker 02

  I was gonna say.

• 1:19:57Drew Afualo?

  That's where it ends.

• 1:19:58Speaker 03

  Find a way to bring me back in for the wrong reason. Until then.

• 1:20:03Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much for coming on the show. I fucking love y'all. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode of the comment section. Don't forget, new episodes drop every Wednesday. You can stream new episodes of the comment section every Wednesday. The video lives exclusively and for free on our favorite platforms. Spotify Audio can be streamed everywhere else. Thank you so much to my amazing all-star guests, Joe and Andrew, and I'll see you next week. Bye.

• 1:20:23Speaker 02

  Bye.

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