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This episode explores Jev, a new type of classifier and decision-making AI created by Diogo Almeida, the researcher behind ChatGPT. The guest explains how Jev differs fundamentally from traditional slow and expensive Large Language Models by acting as an ultra-fast, cheap probability engine that evaluates inputs against predefined schemas without generating conversational text. Throughout the conversation, practical use cases are demonstrated, including bulk-processing 1,700 emails in seconds for just 18 cents, clipping long-form video content, and automating browser tasks like finding flights.
Listeners get a clear mental model of how to use Jev as an AI traffic cop or decision maker to route inbound customer inquiries, power instant quote systems, and streamline business workflows. The guest also shares how developers and entrepreneurs can gain immediate access through the Vercel gateway, making it an actionable and timely listen for anyone interested in building fast, type-safe AI applications at a fraction of traditional costs.
Hosts introduce Jev, its creator, and tease the episode’s content.
Host invites Ryan to describe Jev, its use cases, and how listeners can access it.
Ryan demonstrates Jev on a batch of emails, highlighting speed, cost, and output structure.
Ryan showcases Jev handling video transcription for clip selection and controlling a browser to book a flight in seconds.
Hosts wrap up, provide links, and encourage listeners to try Jev.
Discussion on how Jev differs from conversational LLMs, focusing on its lack of text generation and decision‑oriented outputs.
Ryan lists various business scenarios—lead scoring, support triage, instant quotes—where Jev can automate decisions.
Information on how listeners can access Jev via the waitlist or immediate gateway, and encouragement to experiment.
Email Processing Demo Resultsdata
The guest processes 1,700 emails using Jev to categorize, rank, and score spam in just seconds for a total cost of 18 cents.
Why Jev Generates No Textinsight
Jev does not generate conversational text or use internal reasoning like traditional LLMs; it simply evaluates probabilities against a schema.
Simulating Letters With Jevstory
The guest tests treating letters A through Z as classification outputs to see if Jev can complete words, demonstrating its underlying decision-making mechanics.
Speed Per Querydata
Jev consistently executes queries in around 200 milliseconds regardless of the input and output structure, eliminating slow streaming delays.
By dragging and dropping a video file, Jev transcribes and scores 17 interesting moments in about three seconds for short-form content creation.
Jev successfully controls a browser to pick a flight from Zurich to London in just 7.1 seconds, outperforming traditional AI agents.
“Jev is a classifier. At its truest being, that's what it is.”
“It doesn't generate any text at all. Which you're like, okay, that's kind of weird.”
“Jev can do instant classification and say, okay, let's make the decision. What product team does this need to get routed to?”
“It's so cheap, you won't even notice it will be like, one one thousandth of a cent type of thing to test it out.”
In this episode, I talk with Ryan Vogel about Jev, a new type of AI built for classification. Ryan shows how Jev takes an input plus an output schema and returns a probability for each choice in about 200 milliseconds. He demos Jev sorting 1,700 emails for 18 cents total, then covers lead scoring, support routing, video clipping, and browser control. I push him on the startup angle: find a business with an expensive queue of incoming information and put Jev at the front of it. You leave with a clear mental model, real use cases, and a simple way to try it today. Links Mentioned: Jev/Typeface AI: https://typesafe.ai AI Gateway: https://vercel.com/ai-gateway Timestamps 00:00 – Intro 02:27 – What Jev Is and Why It Matters 04:32 – Email Triage Demo 07:19 – Jev as an AI Decision Maker 15:46 – How to Use Jev in a Business 20:48 – Startup Idea: Local Services Matching and Instant Quotes 22:51 – Use Case 1: Bitcoin Signal Test and Limits 24:03 – Use Case 2: Auto-Clipping Long Videos 25:27 – Use Case 3: Browser Control: Flight Pick in 7.1 Seconds 26:18 – How to Get Access 27:25 – Closing Thoughts Key Points Jev is a classifier: an input and an output schema go in, and a probability for each choice comes out. Ryan's demo scores 1,700 emails for 18 cents total. Each Jev query takes about 200 milliseconds, whatever the input and output structure. Use Jev at any point where a business makes fast, repeatable decisions on incoming data. Keep Jev in an advisory role, and save frontier models for high-intelligence tasks like trading. Instant access runs through the Vercel Gateway, and a waitlist covers direct access. The #1 tool to find startup ideas/trends - https://www.ideabrowser.com LCA helps Fortune 500s and fast-growing startups build their future - from Warner Music to Fortnite to Dropbox. We turn 'what if' into reality with AI, apps, and next-gen products https://latecheckout.agency/ FIND ME ON SOCIAL X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/gregisenberg Instagram: https://instagram.com/gregisenberg/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gisenberg/ FIND RYAN ON SOCIAL X: https://x.com/ryanvogel Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@vogeldev/videos
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