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0:00 Drew Afualo? I'm like the girl that's like just happy to be there. I'm always ensemble, sure.
0:04 Speaker 01 Who doesn't love an ensemble part?
0:06 Drew Afualo? The ensemble's essential.
0:08 Speaker 01 Come on, no, we need it for the whole show. Me being like, I haven't been in the show since I was like 19, I think. But I'm like, we need the ensemble.
0:24 Drew Afualo? Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show. Sorry, me, your fave, everybody knows me, cares about me. Onto the guest today, we have the iconic, the legendary, another all-star, Chrissy Schlopeka.
0:38 Drew Afualo? Welcome back, queen.
0:40 Speaker 01 Well, thank you. I'm happy to be here.
0:42 Drew Afualo? Oh, my God, I'm so happy to have you. It's been a while.
0:44 Speaker 01 It's been a while.
0:45 Drew Afualo? I did wear a little bit of pink for you.
0:46 Speaker 01 I love it.
0:47 Drew Afualo? Obviously on the shoes. I was trying to like match Chrissy's vibe.
0:50 Speaker 01 It's looking good and it's the perfect shade of pink.
0:53 Drew Afualo? I'm saying, I think so.
0:54 Speaker 01 You were right. You were right for that.
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1:30 Speaker 01 Oh, my. It's been a journey since the last time we sat down.
1:36 Drew Afualo? I know, we were in costume, or I was in costume.
1:38 Speaker 01 You weren't costume.
1:39 Drew Afualo? And you were unfortunately having to look at me in the costume.
1:41 Speaker 01 And I thought you looked beautiful.
1:42 Drew Afualo? Thank you.
1:43 Speaker 01 No, you were stunning, first of all. I mean, since then, I like moved to LA and
1:48 Drew Afualo? Yes.
1:49 Speaker 01 Became a pop star.
1:50 Drew Afualo? Period.
1:51 Speaker 01 And that happened.
1:52 Drew Afualo? And the rest is history.
1:54 Speaker 01 And girl, the rest is history.
1:57 Drew Afualo? So tell me about anything new you've been working on lately. Cause I know you were telling me a little bit offline, but I want the people to hear it.
2:03 Speaker 01 Oh, yes. Okay. What I've been working on, well, I'm literally as of today, when we're filming this, about to leave for tour.
2:09 Drew Afualo? Yes.
2:09 Speaker 01 Tomorrow.
2:10 Drew Afualo? How exciting.
2:11 Speaker 01 Crazy. Um, I was saying to you, like, I don't know how the hell this happened. I decided in like, well, I got, I got like dropped by my agent and dropped by a couple of people.
2:21 Drew Afualo? Really?
2:22 Speaker 01 Who were like, yeah, they're like, you can't sell tickets. You can't do all that. And I'm in areas and I'm a bitch. So I was like, watch me. And now I'm like selling out a bunch of cities and I'm about to leave and I'm like, oh.
2:33 Drew Afualo? Now you're doing nineteen cities.
2:35 Speaker 01 Yeah.
2:35 Drew Afualo? Period. Look at you.
2:37 Speaker 01 Like shocked it happened though.
2:38 Drew Afualo? Why? What exactly are you shocked about?
2:41 Speaker 01 It's just like, like.
2:44 Drew Afualo? I was like, you're fantastic. Nothing to be shocked about here.
2:47 Speaker 01 Like, yeah, I work hard and I'm proud of myself and I've done a lot. I'm just like, it's just like, oh, it's actually happening. Like I decided to do this in December.
2:55 Drew Afualo? Okay.
2:56 Speaker 01 And like it's now February and I'm like, oh, okay, I guess I'm doing a show.
3:00 Drew Afualo? Time flies when you're being a pop star.
3:03 Speaker 01 Tell me about it.
3:04 Drew Afualo? Well, tell me about the new music, cause you have quite a few new music, new singles out.
3:08 Speaker 01 Yes.
3:08 Drew Afualo? You know, I'm a fan of Passion Fruit.
3:10 Speaker 01 I know.
3:11 Drew Afualo? You know, I'm a fan of Passion Fruit. I've already, I was listening to it at the gym. I was on a real kick with it at the gym.
3:16 Speaker 01 I died.
3:16 Drew Afualo? Especially during cardio.
3:17 Speaker 01 Oh, it's a good song.
3:18 Drew Afualo? It's a good cardio song. Yes, I'm loving it.
3:21 Speaker 01 I was so honored when you posted it too. I was like, oh, I'm cool. I was like, if you're posting this, like, I must be really cool.
3:28 Drew Afualo? I love it. And I love a slutty pop song.
3:31 Speaker 01 Who doesn't?
3:31 Drew Afualo? Yeah, I'm telling you.
3:32 Speaker 01 Who doesn't?
3:33 Drew Afualo? So tell me about new music. Tell me about all of it. I know you have quite a few singles out.
3:37 Speaker 01 Yes, I have. So I just released like the first half of my project called Christine. Um, I released that about a month ago. It had seven songs on it.
3:45 Drew Afualo? Very cool.
3:46 Speaker 01 And literally, also as of today, we are filming this tomorrow, I am promoting a new song.
3:54 Drew Afualo? How fun.
3:54 Speaker 01 Which will be super fun and will release while I'm on tour.
3:57 Drew Afualo? Very cool.
3:58 Speaker 01 It's called Andromeda.
3:59 Drew Afualo? Ooh.
4:01 Speaker 01 It's gonna be really fierce and fun. And then I have a whole other B-side of the project to.
4:07 Drew Afualo? Very cool.
4:08 Speaker 01 Put out and yeah.
4:10 Drew Afualo? As all your many plates that you're spinning.
4:12 Speaker 01 Um, so many. And I love every one of them.
4:15 Drew Afualo? You're a very, very busy pop star. Can you tell, tell me about the new project? Like, where did it come from? Like, inspiration wise? Like, how were you feeling when you put this project together?
4:23 Speaker 01 Wow, it's such a like, it's so. Interesting because I wrote this project and probably like one of my like darkest I feel like moments of myself in like my career. I feel like I started like obviously a lot of people know me from my online content being goofy silly. And we love her and she's still here. But like I think I found myself being like I don't it's not that I don't resonate with that girl that I am, it's just like there's more to myself like I grew up as a musician, I grew up doing theater like I've always dreamed of bigger.
4:59 Drew Afualo? And you can sing bitch. You can sing bitch for real, Chrissy can sing for real.
5:06 Speaker 01 Listen.
5:06 Drew Afualo? And you know that, that is true. That's like what you're like, I feel like is one of your strongest powers is being able to sing. And your purpose.
5:15 Speaker 01 Absol- absolutely, like there's no, there's nothing else I'd rather be doing and like going on stage and singing and like I don't know, as a kid it was like I'm either gonna listen to my parents screaming at each other downstairs or I'm gonna belt louder than them bitch. And that's what I did. That's how I learned to sing. So like you know, it's just, it's so like emotional and like, I don't know, I feel like when I got to LA you get here and then there's a million people telling you this is what you should do and this is who you should meet and you should be this way and do this and X, Y and Z. And I just got so overwhelmed that I stopped. I stopped doing everything. I like, I put out one EP that I kinda just didn't promote. And like I kinda wasn't proud of it. I love it, it just wasn't me.
5:58 Speaker 01 And I just completely like shrank and I just completely like put myself in a, in a, like a box and was just like I can't look at myself, I can't post, I can't make music, all of this and I just didn't know what to do. Cause it was like, do I be the girl that everyone knows me as? Or do I be the girl that everyone knows me as but with the things I love that are hard to achieve, that I'm willing to try? And I don't know, I just like. One day, literally in August, woke up and I was like, okay, I need to stop being so hard on myself, being like overthinking everything. I need to like cut everyone out, not cut everyone out,
6:41 Speaker 01 but like all of the people who were like, you need to be doing it this way. You're not good enough doing this. Like you can't do all that. And I was like, I'm just gonna let that go. I'm gonna write a project in two weeks and I'm gonna release it.
6:53 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
6:53 Speaker 01 And that's exactly what I did.
6:55 Drew Afualo? Okay, period. And how did you feel trying that new method?
6:58 Speaker 01 It was so liberating. It was so amazing just to like be like, I'm gonna rely on me and I'm gonna rely on what I love. And like, I didn't wait, I didn't make so much music where I was like picking through and like this is the one, like this is the one. It was just like, I like passion fruit, so I'm gonna put it out first. And I ended up doing fine. Like it was great. Like, and then with the others and the whole project itself, it just was like, it's called Christine, cause that's like my name, you know?
7:25 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
7:25 Speaker 01 And like, that's the girl. Like, that's the girl I know and I love. And I wrote it for her. And it just really came out of nowhere.
7:32 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
7:32 Speaker 01 But also came out of like a need. I was like, I need to make something and I need to do something.
7:38 Drew Afualo? Right.
7:38 Speaker 01 Same with this tour. It's like, I just, I need to do it and I need to like also be comfortable if it just like, doesn't go the way I want it to.
7:46 Drew Afualo? Well, you're also a creative, right? So when you're not creating, you feel like you're dying probably.
7:51 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
7:52 Drew Afualo? Right. So it's like, that's one of those things where you're like, I need to get back to me. I, I think that's really brave and courageous of you, cause it's hard, especially in the music industry, shit. The way that they wanna mold you and change you and what they think will sell. And also I, I agree with, I totally get what you mean about feeling distant from the TikTok version of yourself. Because I feel that way too many, many times, like, because we all know, like you and I both came up, honestly, around the same time.
8:18 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:18 Drew Afualo? On TikTok, but also like with very specific niches. So we have like very specific things, which like, like you said, I agree with your, what you said about how like, that is me, but that's not everything.
8:29 Speaker 01 Yes.
8:29 Drew Afualo? And, and it does get exhausting after a while, feeling like having to perform as that thing, as opposed to what you, everything else that makes you. Who you are. So I get what you mean because it it gets very stifling and it gets very like pigeon holy almost like it it feels like every single thing you do or when you have people that want to work with you, they really want you to lean into that one very specific thing. But you're like, okay, but that was like if that was like part of it and I have lots of other things to offer and it doesn't have to be just that.
9:01 Speaker 01 Like, yeah, like I love her, like she's fierce and it's not that I'm not like silly goofy funny running around, but it's like I'm not not on the streets of Chicago anymore, I'm not twenty two, like I'm I'm doing things that I really care about and I really love and like those things come with it, but you know, it's it's almost like a flipping career completely. It's like I have to re-convince people to like care about it, you know, in a way.
9:27 Drew Afualo? I see what you mean.
9:27 Speaker 01 Which like is kind of fun. Also, it's like I love a challenge.
9:31 Drew Afualo? Well, and then you get to, when you do it that way, you get to do it the way you want and the way that you want to be perceived, like you get to put yourself out there in a way that feels true and authentic to you.
9:40 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
9:41 Drew Afualo? As opposed to what people think will sell.
9:43 Speaker 01 Exactly.
9:44 Drew Afualo? Which could be anything like that's they never they act like they know, but they don't always know.
9:49 Speaker 01 Do they ever know?
9:49 Drew Afualo? That's what I'm saying, sometimes they just get lucky.
9:51 Speaker 01 And like, can we talk about it? It's like all these men, all the time, it's all these men, every time in this industry who are like you as a woman, I'm gonna tell you what sells and I'm gonna tell you how you should look and how you should act.
10:04 Drew Afualo? And how and to women, how what sells to women.
10:06 Speaker 01 Yes.
10:07 Drew Afualo? Which is crazy.
10:08 Speaker 01 Which is crazy. It was just like, it's so, it was so jarring the first couple of years of my career in music that like I never really have talked about or touched on because it just was like, I felt like I got swarmed about with people what they wanted from me.
10:23 Drew Afualo? Right.
10:23 Speaker 01 And I would like kind of do it, like kind of not. And then when I wouldn't do it the way they wanted, they're like, oh, you're worthless.
10:29 Drew Afualo? Right.
10:29 Speaker 01 Oh, we don't like you.
10:30 Drew Afualo? And you're like, you told me to do that.
10:32 Speaker 01 You told me to do that and also like, why are you not trusting the girl that built her whole thing herself anyway?
10:37 Drew Afualo? Exactly.
10:38 Speaker 01 That's like the frustrating part and like, that's why like at this point in my music journey, I'm like very untrusting.
10:45 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
10:46 Speaker 01 Of the industry and the business itself, just because it's like, I don't think. You're gonna give me something that I need to know right now.
10:55 Drew Afualo? Right.
10:56 Speaker 01 And like you're not gonna pay attention to me until you have to.
10:59 Drew Afualo? Exactly.
10:59 Speaker 01 And that's okay.
11:00 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
11:00 Speaker 01 That's so fine. I'd rather you not pay attention.
11:03 Drew Afualo? Well, and then at that, at that level, you might as well just do it on your own.
11:06 Speaker 01 Exactly.
11:07 Drew Afualo? Point without them siphoning shit off of you at the same time.
11:10 Speaker 01 Literally, and like giving you fake money that's like not yours and like. It's just, it's, it's just so confusing and like exhausting and I'm just glad I learned so early in the game of my music.
11:24 Drew Afualo? Right.
11:24 Speaker 01 Cause I'm still a new artist.
11:25 Drew Afualo? Absolutely.
11:26 Speaker 01 And I'm still learning so much, but like I learned quickly, like uh uh.
11:30 Drew Afualo? That's you are, you adapt. That's what you do.
11:33 Speaker 01 The divas are gonna come to you and go, you are the next thing. And then you're gonna be like, yeah, okay, girl. I will be on my own time.
11:40 Drew Afualo? Right. And the only people that honestly are right every time they pick are the gays.
11:44 Speaker 01 Can we talk about it?
11:45 Drew Afualo? Right. The only, the only time they like someone who's has like a hundred percent batting average are the gays.
11:51 Speaker 01 Exactly.
11:52 Drew Afualo? They pick a girl in pop, that's the one.
11:54 Speaker 01 They're right.
11:54 Drew Afualo? Yeah, they're right.
11:55 Speaker 01 They're right.
11:56 Drew Afualo? Time, they're right.
11:57 Speaker 01 Right. And they're, you know what? They're just, it takes a little longer for them to see the theater girls in pop.
12:02 Drew Afualo? That's true.
12:03 Speaker 01 But they, they'll see us. They'll see us.
12:06 Drew Afualo? I'm curious about theater. Have you ever thought about doing Broadway?
12:09 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
12:10 Drew Afualo? I would love for you to do Broadway, Chrissy. You would kill on Broadway.
12:13 Speaker 01 I would love to.
12:14 Drew Afualo? And you should manifest that here if that is one of your dreams because I have put two dolls on Broadway from that chair and that is a fact.
12:21 Speaker 01 This is the chair. This is the Broadway chair.
12:24 Drew Afualo? Yeah, like Dylan manifested with me that she wanted to be in a Broadway show. She's in six now. Ananya, she's.
12:30 Speaker 01 She's.
12:30 Drew Afualo? Uh, and what is it? Rocky Horror?
12:32 Speaker 01 Yeah, and I cried when she told me. And when I told me and I sobbed, like I was like, okay, wow.
12:39 Drew Afualo? Oh, my god. So fucking incredible.
12:41 Speaker 01 Well, it's like watching, like also knowing Dylan, like I've known her for so long too. It's just like.
12:48 Speaker 01 I don't know, when you grow up as a theater kid, you have the same dream. I'm gonna be on Broadway, I'm gonna go to New York City, bitch. Come on, like I had a poster of New York in my room. My tiny little room as a kid and like with like Anna Naya, like her making it. It just like, it was like.
13:08 Drew Afualo? And you guys have been friends for so long.
13:10 Speaker 01 For so long, like she's been there for me forever. I'm gonna cry. She's just, every when she gets, I'm just like, I can't, I can't comprehend how proud I am. And it's like that one specifically because like we all just like wanted that. It's just so, it's so amazing.
13:28 Drew Afualo? It's so affirming too, for everyone. And that's why I know you're already winning, but you're gonna win even more because you are pure in your happiness for others. Which is, I think, an essential part of manifesting is like genuinely being happy when other people achieve things too. And I have, I do that too all the time with my friends when they achieve things. It's like, I, I talked about this actually with Brittany once where sometimes like what you were saying about Anna Naya being in Rocky Horror. It's like there's something about watching someone move in their purpose that makes me emotional.
13:58 Speaker 01 No, I'm like going to cry as we're talking about that.
14:01 Drew Afualo? Especially when we talk about internet girls because we're all, we're all internet girls. All of us are internet girls and watching us get to leave the internet and like do what we really want to do. Like purpose for real. Oh my God, moves me to tears every time I think about it.
14:17 Speaker 01 I already had therapy today. I'm like, fuck.
14:20 Drew Afualo? I have therapy tomorrow, so I'll be sure to clock in with that.
14:22 Speaker 01 Already cried today on therapy, like it's just so beautiful.
14:26 Drew Afualo? It's beautiful. It's so amazing.
14:28 Speaker 01 We have this level of understanding with each other because like we knew what it was like to like get online and blow up or something. And then like, you know, keep chasing that thing and then to be like, but I have dreams.
14:37 Drew Afualo? Yeah, like, and that's, and that goes along with what you were saying earlier, which is why I know what's gonna happen for you. Exactly the way it's supposed to happen and the way you want it to happen more specifically. Because it really is one of those things where like you are taking a chance on you because no one's ever gonna work harder for themselves than you.
14:54 Speaker 01 I mean, absolutely.
14:55 Drew Afualo? So I know what's gonna happen. For you in exactly the way you want it to happen, more specifically. Cause it's already tried to happen, but you didn't feel good about it. And there was a reason why it didn't happen then.
15:05 Speaker 01 I so wholeheartedly agree with that. I just feel like with myself too. It's just like I've, I've always like had me. You know, just the way I grew up and like all of that, like I've always had to champion myself. And so I had to like, when I was going through so much like this past year and in August, I had to like, be like, whoa, like you don't have yourself, girl. You've always had yourself. You've always been the one to like, hold yourself when stuff happened and like, I'm not doing that. I'm not taking care of her. And that's was like the moment that I was like, oh my God, like I have to take care of myself. I have to love myself. I have to champion myself.
15:39 Drew Afualo? I love that.
15:40 Speaker 01 Cause no one else is going to.
15:42 Drew Afualo? Say that bitch, honestly.
15:45 Speaker 01 There, there will be people in your life who come who love you and it's so pure. And I know it's real because I have that love for other people. But like, you're the only one who can really like.
15:54 Drew Afualo? Do it.
15:55 Speaker 01 Do it.
15:55 Drew Afualo? And be there for you, like take care of you for real, which is so true. I talk about that all the time. That's why I'm like so convinced now, like this is like the birth of your new, your, your new journey, right? A better journey. Also, I just want to say, your reels when you were posting you laying down and singing, gee bitch. Yeah, you, Broadway would be lucky to have you.
16:17 Speaker 01 Listen, I'm, I'm waiting for the call from the Broadway producer. Where I don't even have to go on an audition. They're just like, we need you as Roxy Hart in Chicago the Musical. And I dye my hair back to blonde and I'm ready.
16:30 Drew Afualo? Roxy Hart bitch, you would.
16:33 Speaker 01 Come on. Come on, or like Audrey from Little Shop.
16:39 Drew Afualo? My God, me getting chills.
16:43 Speaker 01 I feel sixteen again.
16:46 Drew Afualo? Okay, so we have Chicago, we have Little Shop. Are there any other shows that you would love to be in?
16:50 Speaker 01 You know what I would love to be in again? In high school, I was Eponine in Les Mis.
16:55 Drew Afualo? Oh my God, that would be crazy.
16:57 Speaker 01 Oh, I would love to do that show again.
16:59 Drew Afualo? You're crazy bitch, in Les Mis?
17:01 Speaker 01 In Les Mis.
17:01 Drew Afualo? You better work.
17:02 Speaker 01 You know, I was seventeen and I was like, listen to this, like, listen to this on my own. Like, I'm gonna belt that note. I'm gonna change it up. Like, I was like.
17:10 Drew Afualo? That was my favorite song from Les Mis for a long time. I love Les Mis. It's a great one.
17:15 Speaker 01 And being the other woman.
17:16 Drew Afualo? And you would kill. You would kill, especially now with grown pipes.
17:22 Speaker 01 Yeah, she's they've grown.
17:24 Drew Afualo? They've grown now.
17:25 Speaker 01 Taken care of her. She's done enough.
17:27 Drew Afualo? When I was in high school, um, we did like, there was one year where they did Valentine's Day grams or whatever, like, you know, like singing grams.
17:35 Speaker 01 Yeah.
17:35 Drew Afualo? So they would have like, uh, madrigals is what they were called, which is like the good, good choir.
17:40 Speaker 01 Yes.
17:40 Drew Afualo? So they would go to everyone's, uh, classroom and like deliver singing grams and they had like a selection and you would just buy them for like four bucks or something.
17:47 Speaker 01 Oh, my god.
17:48 Drew Afualo? My girlfriends bought me one. We all like got each other stuff for Valentine's Day. So my girlfriends in high school sent me one and I was like, oh, my god, because I love Broadway.
17:56 Speaker 01 Ah.
17:56 Drew Afualo? So I was like, oh, my god, I love the song. And then they were about to sing and they sang On My Own to me.
18:02 Speaker 01 Ah.
18:02 Drew Afualo? Which was honestly beautiful, but kind of fucked up because that song's about her being alone forever.
18:06 Speaker 01 I was gonna say, like, hang on.
18:08 Drew Afualo? Her dying alone.
18:08 Speaker 01 She sings and then dies.
18:10 Drew Afualo? Yes, she does.
18:11 Speaker 01 She fucking dies.
18:12 Drew Afualo? Is that an option for Valentine's Day? Don't know.
18:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, that was interesting. That's interesting. But is that like, you're like, what's your favorite musical, though?
18:19 Drew Afualo? My favorite Broadway musical is Legally Blonde.
18:21 Speaker 01 Ah, okay, well, that's.
18:23 Drew Afualo? That's just a great one.
18:24 Speaker 01 Come on.
18:25 Drew Afualo? It's a kick. Oh, my god, the soundtrack is kick ass.
18:28 Speaker 01 Kick ass.
18:29 Drew Afualo? And I remember watching it when I was in, um, how old are you?
18:32 Speaker 01 Twenty-five.
18:33 Drew Afualo? Okay, yeah, I'm five years older than you. So when I was like, I want to say grade school-ish, probably like ten, eleven, they had like MTV Finding Elle Woods. And so they were like recording the Broadway like auditions for Legally Blonde the Musical. And I remember watching it and I was like, holy fuck, who are they gonna pick? And I was, I just remember being obsessed. I told Dylan, I'm like, I love Broadway, I just don't have the chops.
18:55 Speaker 01 Oh, my gosh.
18:56 Drew Afualo? Yeah, I know. I love Broadway for real.
18:58 Speaker 01 It's the, it's, it's every, that's how I feel so connected to you. I'm like, I know where it's like the theater.
19:03 Drew Afualo? I'm a theater girl at heart.
19:04 Speaker 01 The theater inside us all.
19:06 Drew Afualo? I know, for real. I'm like the girl that's like just happy to be there.
19:09 Speaker 01 Ah.
19:09 Drew Afualo? I'm, I'm always ensemble, sure.
19:11 Speaker 01 Ah, but love. Who doesn't love an ensemble part? Like, come on.
19:16 Drew Afualo? Told me, she's like, the ensemble's essential.
19:19 Speaker 01 Come on, no, we need it for the whole show. Me being like, I haven't been in a show since I was like nineteen, I think. But I'm like, we need the ensemble.
19:28 Drew Afualo? But you're a theater girl.
19:29 Speaker 01 I am.
19:29 Drew Afualo? That's in your DNA code.
19:30 Speaker 01 Oh, it's in my, it's in everything I do, every song I make.
19:34 Drew Afualo? Absolutely.
19:34 Speaker 01 It's not gonna have a weird like theater-esque element. The shows I do, like bitch, we got dancers and like props and like reveals.
19:44 Drew Afualo? You gotta be on Broadway cuz you have a belt too in you.
19:47 Speaker 01 We have to like manifest.
19:49 Drew Afualo? We're manifesting, we're manifesting that, plus the pop star career. I was also gonna say too, your, what you were talking about, your journey was kind of reminding me of Rebecca Black when she was here.
19:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
19:59 Drew Afualo? She talked about the same thing and she was saying like, but the gays have always been behind me.
20:03 Speaker 01 Yes.
20:03 Drew Afualo? They have championed me forever. And I was like, right, and they have you too.
20:07 Speaker 01 They will, they always do.
20:08 Drew Afualo? Zara Larson, another one. And Zara Larson's been in the game for over a decade and just this last couple of years, she's really popped off, so.
20:15 Speaker 01 I mean, that's the game. It's just like you have to stick around.
20:19 Drew Afualo? Mm-hmm.
20:19 Speaker 01 And I think like when I like started to revert back, I was like, oh, girl, you're not in the game right. You're not doing it right. Like, you have to stick through it. You're gonna flop and you're gonna fly and then you're gonna flop again and it's okay. It doesn't mean anything and like who cares what people on like Twitter are gonna say.
20:35 Drew Afualo? It really doesn't mean anything at all, especially because it defeats the purpose of art when you are only focusing on numbers and money. Like it defeats the purpose of art. The whole point is to create, right? And that's probably, I'm sure, why the recalibration that you had last summer was like a good thing for you.
20:50 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
20:51 Drew Afualo? Because you got to go back to the whole point of it, which is to make stuff, like is to create something that you're proud of and that you love.
20:57 Speaker 01 It's like, would I love the money to be able to create what I want? Yes.
21:00 Drew Afualo? Right. Yeah, of course.
21:03 Speaker 01 Um, do I have it? No. Am I happy? Yeah. Like, okay, like the money, it's not the same as it was once upon a time, but hey, I'm like,
21:12 Drew Afualo? And it will come.
21:13 Speaker 01 It will come and I just like smile.
21:15 Drew Afualo? Yeah, and at least, and at least you're fulfilled and happy.
21:18 Speaker 01 I love it.
21:18 Drew Afualo? And that's more than a lot of other people can say.
21:20 Speaker 01 Yeah.
21:21 Drew Afualo? And even like on your new project, like what would you say is like your favorite song?
21:26 Speaker 01 Oh.
21:27 Drew Afualo? If you can pick a favorite. I know it's like picking children, but.
21:29 Speaker 01 It is. I, I always say to my fans when they ask me that, I always say my song Apollo. I really love it. I love the music video for it. It's just so classic, like 2010 pop, like just the things I grew up listening to being like, oh my God, I'm like, Gonna die, I love this. Um, and it's like also like a song that's like about just like, it's just about like, uh, like chasing the light and like leaving the darkness and like this that gay shit, but I love it. It's so gay. But like, it's so is like what.
22:04 Drew Afualo? In a beautiful way.
22:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's always like what I was going through and I just, I have so much love for that song and then like the my, I'm a ballad girl.
22:13 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
22:13 Speaker 01 I always sneak a ballad and no one really listens to my ballads.
22:16 Drew Afualo? I love a ballad.
22:17 Speaker 01 I love a ballad.
22:18 Drew Afualo? And I more specifically love your ballads.
22:20 Speaker 01 Uh, see, yes, me too. Like, those are the ones for me. And my song Girl on the Moon is like my, my other favorite from the project.
22:28 Drew Afualo? Beautiful. Why that one?
22:30 Speaker 01 It's so.
22:31 Drew Afualo? Other than loving a ballad.
22:32 Speaker 01 Other than loving a ballad, I, like, I wrote that song by myself and it's just about like, you know, shit, so much stuff is happening and I'm stressed out and life is hard and I just wanna go to the moon and just be away from all of this. Like, that's really what it's about. Just like, what would it be to just be comforted on my, by myself?
22:52 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
22:53 Speaker 01 And have myself and like, oh, away from everything and it just like, is so, I don't know, like when I, honestly, when I get sad and I'm stressed out, I like play that song in my head. Because I'm like, I can be like the girl on the moon. Like, I can like, I can have myself. I can exist in my own way beyond this. It's like, corny, but I love it.
23:15 Drew Afualo? It's not corny, or it's, it's beautiful.
23:18 Speaker 01 It's gorgeous.
23:18 Drew Afualo? And honestly, real, on it, especially now, shit.
23:21 Speaker 01 Right?
23:22 Drew Afualo? Especially fucking now. I'm sure a lot of us would rather be on the fucking moon.
23:25 Speaker 01 I know, like, can we go? Me and you. Let's hit a ride.
23:29 Drew Afualo? Okay, so when you do ha- um, write your music, when you have, you're in the writing process, like, where do you, do you have like? You know, moments where it hits like inspiration hits and you're just like, I think I'm gonna write now, or do you like to wait? Do you like to block out time to write, or do you just kind of do it when it hits?
23:45 Speaker 01 Um, I guess I block out time because I I work with like one guy Dallas who he's like my brother.
23:52 Drew Afualo? Love.
23:53 Speaker 01 He's perfect and awesome and such a good human being and we've been writing together since I'm so hot, which was my first song I did with him.
24:00 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
24:01 Speaker 01 And um, we just block out time together and a lot of times I come in without inspiration. And then he starts, I'm like, I want the song to sound blue. And he's like, okay, and he knows what that means and he just does it. Like a my song Apollo, I was like, let's make it blue. And then he whipped that out and then I was like, we were able to like come up with a concept and like all of that and everything and sometimes like I have amazing writers who come in like Alex Veltrey or like Jesse St. John who have been like all over all my projects as well, who come in with their great ideas too and like really relate to like what they know about me, but it's it's also personal, cause like
24:39 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
24:40 Speaker 01 Half the time we're writing, but the other like three hours, we're just talking.
24:43 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
24:43 Speaker 01 We're just talking about everything in our lives.
24:45 Drew Afualo? I've heard that from many different artists, like sometimes that's where it comes from, is just kind of chatting, but where you're at.
24:50 Speaker 01 Exactly.
24:51 Drew Afualo? Mentally, emotionally, spiritually.
24:53 Speaker 01 Yeah, you just like, you need people, to me, it's like, I love collaborators in every way, cause it's like they're gonna pull something out of you that you didn't even realize, based on like a conversation you had with them like three years ago.
25:04 Drew Afualo? Gee, I love that.
25:06 Speaker 01 It's so cool.
25:07 Drew Afualo? And it's nice to work with the same people, I'm sure, like they just get your vibe, like when you find a good one.
25:12 Speaker 01 It's family.
25:13 Drew Afualo? Yeah, it has to be.
25:14 Speaker 01 Cause I don't know how many producers I've gone with that are just random, who they just like, don't like anything I do, and then I'm like, okay, why am I here?
25:22 Drew Afualo? Okay, so I feel like you hate me.
25:24 Speaker 01 Like, can you sing like this? I'm like, no, that's my voice. Hello?
25:28 Drew Afualo? Can you like, make it less like that?
25:30 Speaker 01 Can you stop being you, by the way? And I'm like, can you?
25:33 Drew Afualo? It's really getting in the way of my ability to produce.
25:35 Speaker 01 Like one of us is gonna get hit here, and it's not gonna be me. Like, hello?
25:41 Drew Afualo? Okay, so let's talk about tour.
25:43 Speaker 01 Tour.
25:44 Drew Afualo? How excited are you? What are you most looking forward to? What are you most nervous about? Give us all tea.
25:51 Speaker 01 Everything? I'm okay, I'm like, so I'm like a day away from leaving.
25:55 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
25:55 Speaker 01 And I am like beyond nervous. Like, I've been a performer my whole life.
25:59 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
25:59 Speaker 01 I'm never nervous.
26:00 Drew Afualo? And you've done live shows many, many, many times.
26:03 Speaker 01 Yeah. Yeah, that's all I do.
26:05 Drew Afualo? Huge crowd.
26:05 Speaker 01 I pop my pussy, like, I sing those notes, divas.
26:09 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
26:09 Speaker 01 I'm terrified. I don't know why. I think it's just like, this is like, I, everything with my music career, I really have done like solely by myself. With my amazing like gay people who have helped me, like.
26:21 Drew Afualo? Team of gays.
26:22 Speaker 01 My team of gays.
26:22 Drew Afualo? I have one too.
26:23 Speaker 01 Come on, they're real and we love them.
26:25 Drew Afualo? Oh, girl. I literally was like, I need women and gay people.
26:28 Speaker 01 Yes.
26:28 Drew Afualo? Sorry.
26:29 Speaker 01 That's it.
26:29 Drew Afualo? That's all I have room for? I'm sorry, in-house.
26:32 Speaker 01 No.
26:32 Drew Afualo? My DEI hire is a straight man, honestly. That's my DEI hire.
26:36 Speaker 01 I get it. My, my actual manager is a straight guy, but he's a straight guy where I can go, shut up. And he's goes.
26:42 Drew Afualo? Like, less talky from you.
26:44 Speaker 01 No. And he goes, okay, and he goes, Chrissy, you can always tell me to shut up. And I'm like, I know.
26:48 Drew Afualo? Yeah, trust me, I know.
26:49 Speaker 01 Yeah, I know. And I do, and I, I love him down, but like, it is literally just gays and girls.
26:55 Drew Afualo? Yeah, I need them.
26:56 Speaker 01 And I need them. I mean, they, they're the only reason I was able to do all this. Like, every other random guy that was on my team, like, was like, oh, you're not good enough, we don't want you. And I was like, okay. And then like my gays and girls, just we all put this tour together.
27:09 Drew Afualo? Period.
27:10 Speaker 01 Like, out of nowhere, like literally out of nowhere.
27:13 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
27:13 Speaker 01 And I'm just, I think I'm just like shocked. I'm just shocked it's happening. Yeah. I don't know, it's like, you dream of something for so long, like ever since you're a kid and like, so much of my life has just been singing in my room and like, coming home from rehearsals and like going back and like dreaming of like shows or like
27:31 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
27:32 Speaker 01 Broadway or like all of these things. And now it's happening and I'm like. I'm scared. I don't know why. Like, it's just, it's sometimes scary to accomplish your dreams.
27:43 Drew Afualo? No, hell yeah. I agree. Or it's just kinda like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm doing it for real.
27:48 Speaker 01 Yes.
27:49 Drew Afualo? It feels, it feels very surreal. But it's a beautiful thing. Walk in it confidently, girl. Cause you, you deserve it. You've earned it.
27:55 Speaker 01 Yeah.
27:56 Drew Afualo? And you're gonna kill it. You're gonna have so much fun. I really do think you're gonna have a blast, probably on tour.
28:01 Speaker 01 I know. I know I'm gonna love it so much. I mean, my whole tour crew is like gay people, like a gay boy and all lesbians. Like, it's gonna be so perfect. Like, thank god, thank god.
28:12 Drew Afualo? Tour is really hard and my, yours is gonna be way harder than mine was because mine is just sitting and saying pee pee poo poo out my butt, like in a mic for an hour. Whereas like yours, you're like performing, like for real. But even I, it was fucking hard, but it was really fun.
28:27 Speaker 01 Yeah.
28:28 Drew Afualo? It was really fun because we had like a great team and I think that's like the key to surviving and having a good time is having a lot of really good people with you.
28:36 Speaker 01 Yeah.
28:36 Drew Afualo? So you're set there. I think you're gonna have a blast.
28:39 Speaker 01 Totally. And just remembering to like be a person too.
28:41 Drew Afualo? Right.
28:42 Speaker 01 I think sometimes it's like I li- I get, I turn on and I'm like, I'm Chrissy and I'm here and I'm present.
28:47 Drew Afualo? Mm-hmm.
28:47 Speaker 01 But you know, I'm, I'm like such a usually quieter person, honestly, on my day to day that like, I know I'm gonna get very drained, not in a bad way, but it's like finding those little moments of like.
29:00 Drew Afualo? Resetting a little bit.
29:01 Speaker 01 Reset, yeah, yeah. And just letting myself do that.
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29:49 Drew Afualo? Even when we were like, we were like girls and gays on my bus and it was funny because my man was there, who's obviously not gay, my dad and my brother in law were there. But like, for some reason, like when the bus driver, who was a straight man, when he was on the bus, it just felt like, ah. This is a girl bus.
30:05 Speaker 01 No, like get off.
30:07 Drew Afualo? There's girls here. This is girl bus. Oh, there's a man here.
30:12 Speaker 01 No, like we're gonna drive like our little Subaru like around the country and I'm so glad just like me and my choreographer slash like tour manager slash everything. He's perfect. He's my god. His name's Alec Cohen. Gay choreographer. He's perfect. Um, it's just gonna be like him driving, me driving, and then my gaggle of lesbians. My girlfriend's gonna come with me too. Thank god. And my dog like.
30:38 Drew Afualo? Oh my god, sugar. Oh my god, of course I remember sugar.
30:42 Speaker 01 She's perfect.
30:43 Drew Afualo? How is she doing?
30:44 Speaker 01 She's everything to me. I would die without her.
30:47 Drew Afualo? That's how I feel about my dogs too. I really do feel, it's so funny this morning, my, my man was like, um, do you think our lives would be different if we didn't have the dogs? And I was like, I honestly feel like they would be a lot sadder. Like my life would be so empty without my dogs. Like, God help anyone around me the day something happens to either of those.
31:07 Speaker 01 I can't even fucking think about it.
31:09 Drew Afualo? Think about it, I'll freak out. I'm gonna make it everyone's problem if something bad happens to my dogs.
31:14 Speaker 01 The world will end. The world will.
31:16 Drew Afualo? I'm gonna do something drastic.
31:18 Speaker 01 I'm gonna fuck everyone up. Like, it's not gonna be okay. No one will survive.
31:23 Drew Afualo? No, for real. I'm, I can't even think about it for too long. I'll freak out. But she's doing well. I'm glad to hear that.
31:29 Speaker 01 Wonderful. She's like really the only thing I need.
31:34 Drew Afualo? And she loves your, she loves your girlfriend?
31:35 Speaker 01 She loves my girlfriend. It's awesome. I'm like, can you take her out? Like, can you do, can you feed her? Awesome.
31:42 Drew Afualo? Perfect. We love that. And I'm glad she gets to come with you too. I feel like it's, it does feel sometimes, um, like, oh, I could do it by myself, but then it's like, I don't want to.
31:53 Speaker 01 I don't wanna.
31:54 Drew Afualo? I know. And it's like, they always know you. I feel like your partner knows you better than anyone. So it's like, that's really nice too for when you're decompressing from shows.
32:02 Speaker 01 Oh my god.
32:03 Drew Afualo? It's nice to like have your person with you.
32:05 Speaker 01 I know.
32:05 Drew Afualo? So I'm glad she's able to come with you.
32:06 Speaker 01 I know. I was like, you have to like make me make content every day too. I'm putting her to work. I'm like, you're not just coming with me, you're working.
32:14 Drew Afualo? Yeah, everyone's on the clock.
32:15 Speaker 01 Everyone's, everyone's on the clock.
32:17 Drew Afualo? When I did tour too, we had, um, We brought my brother in law because he was helping us with security. And um, my man and my dad, and it was funny because every venue we went to, they're always like, oh yeah, they have security, but it's always like some ninety year old guy and he has like a back brace and he's like, I can't lift heavy things, sorry. And you're like, no, for sure. We'll, we'll bring all the stuff in ourselves.
32:40 Speaker 01 Right.
32:40 Drew Afualo? And it was funny because my agent's husband also came for a few of the shows on some of the legs of the tour. And the way my family and him were like, just doing all of the roadie work, just moving everything in and out. Everyone sweating through their t-shirts because it was summer. So it was like, it really is like a self-run thing.
32:59 Speaker 01 It is.
32:59 Drew Afualo? It's a self-run operation.
33:01 Speaker 01 It is. No one's doing that for you.
33:03 Drew Afualo? No, you like need fucking help. So, and then someone to be tour manager or whatever. So we had like, we had someone that was with us the whole time. Keisha, love her. She was the best. Um, and she was running all AV and stuff on our shows. But we don't have all the fancy stuff that I'm sure you're gonna have. Just lights.
33:18 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
33:19 Drew Afualo? We just had one light.
33:20 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah. And we're like, what the hell are we doing? So what's going to happen? Like literally my meeting with them today, we were like, so lighting? Oh shit, backdrop, like all these things. I'm saying it's me and a gay guy. It's me and a gay guy and we're like both the most neurodivergent. Oh no, like I don't know how either of us have a collective thought ever. Sometimes we look at each other, we go, ah. And then we both like know exactly what we mean. It's like kind of terrifying.
33:47 Drew Afualo? Right.
33:48 Speaker 01 We get things done, but I'm also terrified because it's me and a gay guy.
33:52 Drew Afualo? Well, and you're, it's just me and a twink.
33:54 Speaker 01 No, it's me and a twink. And I love him. He's my brother, but like, girl, what are we gonna do?
34:01 Drew Afualo? The Aries makes a lot of sense in that regard.
34:03 Speaker 01 Oh, my god, yeah.
34:04 Drew Afualo? Type B.
34:05 Speaker 01 Beyond.
34:05 Drew Afualo? Yeah, beyond.
34:06 Speaker 01 Beyond.
34:08 Speaker 01 B for beyond, like.
34:09 Drew Afualo? Well, that's the thing about type B people, like they stress me out. I'm a Virgo, so I'm a type A girl.
34:13 Speaker 01 Yes.
34:14 Drew Afualo? But they, type B people stress me out, but honestly, everything always works out.
34:18 Speaker 01 We always get it done.
34:18 Drew Afualo? Yeah, that's always gets done and it gets done to the highest of capabilities.
34:22 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah. No, it's gonna be amazing. Like, no, it'll be perfect. I just don't know how. I don't, I won't know how until it happens and I'm gonna be like, oh, this.
34:30 Drew Afualo? But when it does, it will be perfect.
34:31 Speaker 01 Girl, it will be shining, like beautiful, like, but no, there are a couple of things. I'm like, I don't know how that will happen. We'll figure it out.
34:38 Drew Afualo? It's okay, and it will, and it always will.
34:40 Speaker 01 And it always will.
34:41 Drew Afualo? I think for good people and gay people and people who are good and gay, especially.
34:45 Speaker 01 Good and gay, and good and gay, we don't always get that. Let's be real, but I love when it happens.
34:52 Drew Afualo? When it lines up, it's perfect.
34:53 Speaker 01 Oh, my god, it's like otherworldly.
34:57 Drew Afualo? Perfect. Okay, so what can people be excited about for tour? What do they, what can they look forward to?
35:03 Speaker 01 I mean, drag queens, divas, live vocals, I'll always say that.
35:10 Drew Afualo? And you do sing live, that is true.
35:12 Speaker 01 And I do sing live. I will never, ever lead you the wrong way with that. Okay, I don't care if my voice cracks, baby, it's live.
35:22 Speaker 01 We have like all these props. We have like a puppet, that's of me, like a literal puppet. I don't know why either, we just have it. Um, we also, like, a new song is gonna be coming out soon, a drama and a music video.
35:36 Drew Afualo? Period.
35:36 Speaker 01 All while I'm on tour.
35:37 Drew Afualo? Very exciting.
35:38 Speaker 01 I don't know why I did all that at once, but I love to be like, let's do everything.
35:42 Drew Afualo? You're just maximizing it.
35:43 Speaker 01 I love maximizing my anxiety.
35:48 Drew Afualo? Solely your anxiety.
35:49 Speaker 01 It's awesome.
35:50 Drew Afualo? I'm so excited for you. What, where are you going? So everyone knows, just generally cities, if you wanna name a few.
35:55 Speaker 01 Okay, Brooklyn, we're starting with you, divas. We got, ugh, Jesus, the east coast, Chicago, yes, we're ending in Chicago.
36:04 Drew Afualo? Love, your hometown, how exciting.
36:06 Speaker 01 We just announced the LA tickets also. We were waiting for that one, so that's Easter Sunday. If you want to enjoy your Easter Sunday with Chrissy for some very biblical, um, loving lesbianism.
36:21 Drew Afualo? There you go.
36:21 Speaker 01 Come see me live at the Roxy.
36:23 Drew Afualo? There you go. The Roxy, how fun, what a great venue, love that.
36:27 Speaker 01 It's awesome.
36:27 Drew Afualo? Amazing. The Lord has risen again. It's Chrissy Schloppaka.
36:32 Speaker 01 Me and the Lord.
36:34 Drew Afualo? We go way back.
36:35 Speaker 01 We go way back. Well, the Christians are mad at me again, cuz of passion for.
36:39 Drew Afualo? Oh, that's right, because of the Catholicism?
36:42 Speaker 01 Oh, totally, cuz of that stuff.
36:44 Drew Afualo? Well, there's a lot of other stuff going on in Catholicism that they should probably pay more attention to.
36:48 Speaker 01 You know what they really don't like in the video? There's this scene where there's like legs going in between me on like a rigged thing, and I did a BTS video of it. And they're like, no.
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37:32 Speaker 01 Blasphemy, blasphemy.
37:34 Drew Afualo? But you're not in the church.
37:35 Speaker 01 Well, I was in a church.
37:36 Drew Afualo? Well, even then.
37:37 Speaker 01 Not that part, not that part.
37:38 Drew Afualo? No, I was like, not that part.
37:40 Speaker 01 Not that part. I was in a church, and I looked gorgeous in the church. And you know what happened, though?
37:44 Drew Afualo? You did, actually.
37:44 Speaker 01 I was, thank you so much.
37:45 Drew Afualo? Yes.
37:45 Speaker 01 First of all, thank you. Second of all, I was in that church, and I was like, I know if like, Jesus is here, and God, and whoever the hell else was like, part of that thing that happened then, they would be riding with us gay people.
37:59 Drew Afualo? I think so.
38:00 Speaker 01 They would love us.
38:01 Drew Afualo? Jesus, are you kidding me? Yeah, he would love the gays.
38:03 Speaker 01 He was the one that would love us.
38:04 Drew Afualo? He loved lepers. There's no way he wouldn't love a gay.
38:06 Speaker 01 Please, please.
38:07 Drew Afualo? Did he love lepers? Come on now.
38:09 Speaker 01 I'm saying.
38:09 Drew Afualo? There's no way.
38:10 Speaker 01 Didn't he like, he like, threw a table over, he was like, stop it. Because he was like, everyone except each other.
38:15 Drew Afualo? Right.
38:15 Speaker 01 He did that.
38:16 Drew Afualo? He loved whores.
38:16 Speaker 01 I was in Jesus Christ Superstar when I was 12. I know what happened.
38:20 Drew Afualo? I was fucking there.
38:21 Speaker 01 He loved whores. He loved it all, okay?
38:23 Drew Afualo? He loved everyone.
38:24 Speaker 01 So like, why me? A whore.
38:28 Drew Afualo? Sed whore, mind you.
38:29 Speaker 01 Sed whore, mind you. Lesbian whore. Fem princess. Why could I not be in the room with JC?
38:37 Drew Afualo? Right, with JC and the big boys.
38:39 Speaker 01 And the big boy God. And I'm singing my heart out about eating out a girl. Like, oh my God, kill me.
38:48 Speaker 01 Jesus Christ.
38:50 Drew Afualo? It's fine. It's literally fine. Like I said, Catholicism has a lot of other issues, as does Christianity. They got a lot more going on that they should be paying attention to other than lesbian whores in the church.
39:01 Speaker 01 Please.
39:02 Drew Afualo? They need more lesbian whores in the church, if I'm being honest.
39:05 Speaker 01 Don't they want lesbian whores in the church?
39:06 Drew Afualo? They need more of them, I'll tell you that much.
39:07 Speaker 01 I'm saying, but don't they want us there to like...
39:09 Drew Afualo? Then maybe I'll start showing up.
39:10 Speaker 01 Hang on, hang on. I could create a nightlife event.
39:16 Speaker 01 At the church.
39:17 Drew Afualo? Exactly, I could, I could easily do that.
39:20 Speaker 01 Easy.
39:20 Drew Afualo? I could make time on Sunday.
39:22 Speaker 01 I can make them money, okay? Hang on, isn't the church all about money?
39:25 Drew Afualo? Right.
39:26 Speaker 01 We could hand out a, a, a basket and be like, please donate to the Jesus Christ slash Christie Shepeka Fund.
39:32 Drew Afualo? There you go.
39:32 Speaker 01 And then I'll use it for tour as the, uh, the priests use it for their Lexus.
39:36 Drew Afualo? Right.
39:37 Speaker 01 Like, I think it's all good.
39:38 Drew Afualo? They buy, they buy private planes all the time. I'm sure they'd sponsor a lesbian tour.
39:42 Speaker 01 What, like, I have to drive a Subaru around the fucking United States and you're in, you're fucking on your private jet?
39:48 Drew Afualo? For real.
39:49 Speaker 01 God, life isn't fair.
39:52 Drew Afualo? It's okay. Working twice as hard to get half as far. I know all about that.
39:55 Speaker 01 Oh, it's so good. I love my life.
39:59 Drew Afualo? Loving it. Okay, I do have some fun facts about you.
40:02 Speaker 01 Oh shit.
40:03 Drew Afualo? Yeah, we, we changed the format since the last time you've been here.
40:06 Speaker 01 About me?
40:07 Drew Afualo? Yes. They're fun facts. We have our own in-house Nardwar.
40:11 Speaker 01 Whoa.
40:12 Drew Afualo? So I'm gonna, uh, tell you some fun facts.
40:14 Speaker 01 Okay, I'm like, Nervah.
40:16 Drew Afualo? Okay, well, this is, uh, you used to be a Starbucks barista, which I did know. Before you made enough money doing content creation to quit.
40:23 Speaker 01 That's so real.
40:24 Drew Afualo? How exciting. Did you like being a Starbucks barista?
40:27 Speaker 01 It was fierce because I was so poor and I was living in the city in Chicago and, um, I like could never afford groceries or anything. And so there, there was a camera, you know, all over the Starbucks.
40:40 Drew Afualo? Right.
40:40 Speaker 01 But there wasn't one where like all the milk was, like the oat milks and all the like food. So I would come with like a, I stole a lot, is what I'm saying. I would come with a, like a backpack that was completely like thin, like nothing in it. And I would leave with it just like so much oat milk and like so much. I'd be like, bye guys. I'll see you tomorrow. And like, no one did anything.
41:01 Drew Afualo? They can spare it, it's alright.
41:02 Speaker 01 It's Starbucks.
41:03 Drew Afualo? Yeah, they can spare it.
41:04 Speaker 01 And Starbucks 2019, they could spare it, okay?
41:07 Drew Afualo? They absolutely could.
41:08 Speaker 01 Like, I was dealing with like people in the bathroom at the Starbucks, like throwing up everywhere and overdosing. And it was terrible. And I was like four years old, okay? Like, I was allowed to steal that oat milk.
41:21 Drew Afualo? It's okay. It's alright. It's fine.
41:23 Speaker 01 They're gonna live. They're gonna live.
41:26 Drew Afualo? Believe it or not, they're gonna pull through.
41:27 Speaker 01 Clearly.
41:27 Drew Afualo? That business is gonna thrive.
41:29 Speaker 01 They're right across the street.
41:30 Drew Afualo? Right, there you go.
41:32 Drew Afualo? They're gonna be okay. Did you have any crazy stories working as a barista?
41:35 Speaker 01 Um.
41:37 Drew Afualo? Or weird ones?
41:39 Speaker 01 Honestly, it was just, no, I mean, a lot of people would come in and steal a bunch of shit and I would just let them.
41:44 Drew Afualo? Well, yeah.
41:45 Speaker 01 Why wouldn't I?
41:45 Drew Afualo? I'm not dying for Starbucks.
41:47 Speaker 01 No, why would I do that? Like, I was like, okay, take that sandwich, girl. Like, I don't care.
41:52 Drew Afualo? Yeah, girl, it's alright. I don't have stock in the Starbucks at all.
41:56 Speaker 01 Absolutely not. I just work here. I'm four years old and I work here, okay? Like, I'm just trying to like get, like, pay my rent, maybe. Maybe.
42:08 Drew Afualo? We'll see.
42:08 Speaker 01 We'll see, and it didn't happen sometimes. Okay, like, it's gonna be fine. But no, the crazy, I think the craziest part of that was like, I was starting to blow up on TikTok while working there.
42:20 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
42:21 Speaker 01 And I worked there for a long time. I was there for like four years.
42:23 Drew Afualo? Oh, yeah.
42:23 Speaker 01 And like, I was like twenty twenty one, maybe.
42:25 Drew Afualo? Okay.
42:26 Speaker 01 And that was when I was like, whoa, because people come and be like, are you? And I was like, do I quit? Hang on, like, is this the time I leave?
42:35 Drew Afualo? Right, probably. When they start identifying you at your job.
42:38 Speaker 01 Yeah, but it was the time when I didn't know you could make money off of social media.
42:41 Drew Afualo? Oh, yeah.
42:41 Speaker 01 So I was just working at Starbucks for like a year into my career.
42:44 Drew Afualo? Oh, wow, okay, period.
42:45 Speaker 01 I don't know.
42:46 Drew Afualo? I know, I really wasn't making anything at all, because you know, like, the CPM on TikTok was dog shit for ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
42:54 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
42:55 Drew Afualo? And so like, I really wasn't making shit for the longest time, like, before I really was like, oh, wow, wow, you could like live off this.
43:02 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
43:03 Drew Afualo? I like really genuinely did not think that was like a thing.
43:06 Speaker 01 When I first signed with my first management, I made them like, like swear to God, I would be able to pay my rent. I was like, this is, this is made up.
43:15 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
43:15 Speaker 01 I'm gonna make money off of social media, you're a liar. You're a man and you're a liar.
43:20 Drew Afualo? Yeah, you're like, I'm literally toiling away at that coffee shop every day and not making enough.
43:24 Speaker 01 I am making those frappuccinos for you twelve year olds and some of you like fifty year olds, fierce, by the way. And I'm like, I'm not even making enough. So like, what do you mean me being like, like, hit them with your car or is it gonna make me money? Like, hello?
43:41 Drew Afualo? Dream job.
43:42 Speaker 01 Love that.
43:44 Drew Afualo? Okay, next one says, in high school, you were a team captain of a recreational kickball team?
43:51 Speaker 01 Oh, my god, so, so, kind of, so kind of that, so in high school, um, well, how do, how does this go, like, I was bored, and me and my friends were like, what if we just like made a kickball team?
44:07 Drew Afualo? Okay.
44:08 Speaker 01 And so we made a kickball team, and I was the team captain of said kickball team. It was just a bunch of gays and those who didn't know if they were gay or not, because it was high school, including I, you know? So, it was a bunch of gays.
44:19 Drew Afualo? Yeah, bye now, gay later.
44:20 Speaker 01 Bye now, gay later, it, hello, hello, bye now, gay later.
44:25 Drew Afualo? Right.
44:26 Speaker 01 I really was like bisexual, and then I went, never mind.
44:30 Drew Afualo? Actually, I'm a liar.
44:31 Speaker 01 Girl, I was lying, it was fierce, it was so fierce, um, but yeah, I'm like, me and my friend, we were just like, we're gonna be the team captains, and then I never won a singular game.
44:44 Drew Afualo? No, you didn't win at all?
44:45 Speaker 01 No, because I would only pick the fiercest divas, and the fiercest divas aren't winning kickball.
44:49 Drew Afualo? That's true.
44:50 Speaker 01 It's tea.
44:51 Drew Afualo? That's true, they're in the theater, they're clocked in somewhere else.
44:53 Speaker 01 And we were all in theater, by the way, like, no one had.
44:58 Drew Afualo? Did you guys play other schools, or did you just?
45:00 Speaker 01 No, each other.
45:00 Drew Afualo? Oh, each other?
45:01 Speaker 01 No, like, each, it wasn't like this huge thing, it was just like this group of gay people, half gay, figuring it out, whatever, they, them, all of that, and like, figuring out, like, every now and then I'd like pick a new diva on my team that was on the other divas team.
45:18 Drew Afualo? You guys just mixed up every time and then went into different teams every time?
45:21 Speaker 01 Fierce, like, why did I have the time of my life?
45:25 Drew Afualo? Why did I have like so much fun?
45:27 Speaker 01 No, take me back, take me back to the elementary field that we were playing, in the elementary school field, like.
45:34 Drew Afualo? That's honestly really sweet, I think more people should do stuff like that.
45:37 Speaker 01 I know.
45:38 Drew Afualo? Just for the sake of it, why not?
45:39 Speaker 01 And my parents still thought I was a bad kid, I wasn't drinking or doing drugs, I was playing kickball, and they were like, you're terrible.
45:45 Drew Afualo? With my other gay friends.
45:46 Speaker 01 With my gays, like, hello.
45:50 Drew Afualo? My man joined a softball like rec league. Well, when I first started dating him, he was like actively in an adult softball league.
45:58 Speaker 01 Oh my god.
45:58 Drew Afualo? We were like in our early twenties and I was like, you like play for real? And he was like, oh yeah, like I, I, it's me and like my friends. And they play other teams like locally.
46:08 Speaker 01 Okay.
46:08 Drew Afualo? So they joined like a local softball thing, which I think is like fun. I was like, oh, that's cool. And he's like, would you wanna come watch me? And I was like, I mean, I guess, but I was kinda like, I hate watching baseball, but like, yeah, I guess.
46:20 Speaker 01 Right.
46:20 Drew Afualo? And I did go a few times with him cuz he was on one like much later when we were, when I was kind of starting to do this for a living.
46:28 Speaker 01 Mm-hmm.
46:28 Drew Afualo? And I remember every game we went to, it was like the other team was just a gang of dads that like hate their wives.
46:37 Speaker 01 Oh, of course.
46:38 Drew Afualo? And they can't wait to drink on a weeknight. Like, they're like, fuck it. And then they're all, they all go and they like take it so seriously.
46:45 Speaker 01 Wow.
46:45 Drew Afualo? Nobody's in shape, nobody's athletic. And they're all just hitting like bombs into the outfield. And I remember watching, I'm like, this is the most pointless. Like, this feels like the most like, like, honey, you know I have softball that night.
46:58 Speaker 01 No, literally?
46:59 Drew Afualo? But like such the biggest excuse for all of them to leave home.
47:02 Speaker 01 Right.
47:03 Drew Afualo? And just get to go and like fuck around.
47:04 Speaker 01 And be like, I hate my fucking wife, bro.
47:06 Drew Afualo? Yeah, I'm like, oh, you hate your wife? Me too.
47:08 Speaker 01 Like, we were pondering our sexuality. You hate your wives.
47:12 Drew Afualo? Right. You guys are playing sports in a godfearing way.
47:15 Speaker 01 You could be pondering your sexuality too. They probably should.
47:19 Drew Afualo? I know, they should do that a little bit more, probably, huh?
47:21 Speaker 01 Well, yeah, maybe a little bit more of the world's problems would be figured out if they just realized they're gay.
47:26 Drew Afualo? Yeah, that's like, uh, I saw, I think it was the drag queen and she was on Trixie and Katya's podcast.
47:31 Speaker 01 Mm-hmm.
47:32 Drew Afualo? And she was saying, um, a lot of the world's problems would be solved if men just put a finger up their butt.
47:37 Speaker 01 Uh, yes.
47:38 Drew Afualo? A little bit sooner.
47:39 Speaker 01 Period.
47:39 Drew Afualo? Like, if you guys just put fingers up your butt, a lot of your problems would be solved cuz then you would realize you're not so angry. Some of you would realize you're gay. It's like a real, like, win-win. Everybody wins.
47:46 Speaker 01 And I believe in that. I fully believe in that. Like, that's my bible. Okay.
47:51 Drew Afualo? Those are my affirmations.
47:53 Speaker 01 Literally.
47:53 Drew Afualo? I say those in the mirror every morning.
47:55 Speaker 01 Every morning. It's like written on a sticky note.
47:58 Drew Afualo? Two fingers up the butt.
47:59 Speaker 01 Period.
48:01 Drew Afualo? Okay, this one says that you played Alice in Alice in Wonderland in high school.
48:05 Speaker 01 I did.
48:06 Drew Afualo? Oh my god, that makes so much sense.
48:08 Speaker 01 I was furious.
48:08 Drew Afualo? I love that. Was it just regular stage play or was musical?
48:11 Speaker 01 It was just the stage play.
48:13 Drew Afualo? Fun.
48:13 Speaker 01 And I, I will brag. Let me brag. I was the sophomore who got the lead.
48:18 Drew Afualo? Okay, T.
48:18 Speaker 01 And you know I pissed those seniors off. Bitch, and they were mean to me.
48:25 Drew Afualo? Damn.
48:26 Speaker 01 Yeah.
48:26 Drew Afualo? You cleared them bitch.
48:27 Speaker 01 It's hard. It's hard being talented.
48:30 Drew Afualo? It's so lonely at the top. Oh my god. That is so T though. Did you have fun?
48:34 Speaker 01 Oh, of course.
48:35 Drew Afualo? Like, did you have a lot of leading roles?
48:37 Speaker 01 Yes.
48:37 Drew Afualo? Yes, of course.
48:39 Speaker 01 Well, yes, of course. That's all I did. I'm telling you, I went, I come home from school, I come home from rehearsal, I go to my bedroom, my parents are fighting. I go, I'm not listening to that. I create a scene in my room. I have a mic, I have a mic from like, oh my god, just one of those old board games. I like found a fake mic in. And I would like use it and like pretend I was on Broadway and like all those things. I was practicing forever because I was alone my whole childhood. But I was furious.
49:08 Drew Afualo? But in your, I just love when you're like, yes.
49:11 Speaker 01 No, yeah, like.
49:13 Drew Afualo? Yes.
49:13 Speaker 01 Undeniably, I was deleted in high school.
49:15 Drew Afualo? And period. I'm so glad you're, you're so me, honestly. I remember all my wins.
49:20 Speaker 01 Come on, why would I not? Biggest thing I've ever done. Like, come on.
49:25 Drew Afualo? Did you have, uh, do you have any like idols in terms of like pop stars or Broadway stars or anything like that? People like you loved watching growing up, you still love now?
49:34 Speaker 01 Ooh, okay, I loved Bernadette Peters growing up.
49:38 Drew Afualo? Oh, T.
49:39 Speaker 01 She's like my Broadway icon.
49:41 Drew Afualo? Oh, love.
49:42 Speaker 01 In love with her. Um, Lady Gaga is a big inspo for me.
49:48 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
49:48 Speaker 01 I was, I think my first girl crush ever though was Ariana Grande.
49:51 Drew Afualo? Oh, T.
49:52 Speaker 01 I was like obsessed with her.
49:54 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
49:54 Speaker 01 Like I like could have been one of those girls that like did this, you know? And like.
49:59 Drew Afualo? Big sleeves.
50:00 Speaker 01 Yeah.
50:00 Drew Afualo? Oh, so tiny.
50:02 Speaker 01 I'm so tiny. Yeah, like that. I so was, I so could have been that girl. But I realized I just had a crush on her.
50:09 Drew Afualo? Right.
50:09 Speaker 01 And that's where it all started.
50:12 Drew Afualo? Lesbian origin stories.
50:13 Speaker 01 Exactly. It all begins somewhere.
50:15 Drew Afualo? And also another pop star turned Broadway diva. Love that. Look at you. Even Lady Gaga too, same thing. Your, your tone of voice, your singing voice sounds a lot like Lady Gaga to me.
50:26 Speaker 01 I, like, growing up, she was like, like, I learned to sing by listening to other people and like mimicking their tone and like, definitely she was part of that.
50:35 Drew Afualo? I love that.
50:36 Speaker 01 Definitely that.
50:37 Drew Afualo? And she's got a set of pipes on her bitch.
50:39 Speaker 01 I mean, that's mother.
50:40 Drew Afualo? Just like you. Okay, another one says, does wedgie crew game night mean anything to you? If not, please show this photo from high school that she was tagged in.
50:53 Speaker 01 I have no idea what you're saying.
50:58 Drew Afualo? Does any of that mean anything to you?
51:01 Speaker 01 That is like the most terrifying.
51:05 Speaker 01 I just got like a hot flag. So that was, I have no idea what the fuck that means.
51:12 Speaker 01 Completely honest. All I know is that is a photo of the cast from the one acts we did freshman year. I was the lead of this. I was the lead. By the way, and it was like, um, a one act that was written about like Twilight and I played Bella from Twilight.
51:30 Drew Afualo? Two.
51:30 Speaker 01 And that's like the extent of my memory. It must have been like a cast party and cause you know cast parties were weird. You know, cast and I like one time was, I was the upperclassman who like brought weed once.
51:45 Drew Afualo? It's like all those memes of theater kids having parties.
51:48 Speaker 01 No, and you know that like, what is that? Video of like the theater kids like singing in like a Denny's or something. I see that and I'm like, ah, tears to my eyes. I remember, I remember the days.
52:02 Drew Afualo? The glory days.
52:02 Speaker 01 The glory days. Like that was whatever was happening at like our Steak and Shake, like.
52:07 Drew Afualo? Doing this weird shit.
52:09 Speaker 01 God.
52:09 Drew Afualo? Wedgie Crew Game Night here.
52:11 Speaker 01 I truly wish I know like what that meant. And like clearly, like I don't, I don't clear clearly, I don't talk, no, that's not what I meant. I just don't have anyone to ask that about.
52:22 Drew Afualo? To ask to confirm what the hell that is.
52:25 Speaker 01 Let me, I send this to like somebody I haven't talked to in ten years. I'm like, so what was this?
52:28 Drew Afualo? Do you, can you tell me what, remind me what Wedgie Crew Game Night was?
52:32 Speaker 01 I, I feel like they would block me. They'd be like, you've been weird.
52:35 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
52:36 Speaker 01 Since you rose to fame. You've completely fucking changed.
52:39 Drew Afualo? I don't know if you know this, but someone's hacking you.
52:41 Speaker 01 No, literally.
52:42 Drew Afualo? Weird messages to people from high school.
52:44 Speaker 01 Oh my god. My biggest fear, sending a message to someone from high school.
52:49 Drew Afualo? You and me both.
52:50 Speaker 01 That's never happening, sorry.
52:51 Drew Afualo? Oh my god, no. One time I got a DM like early on, like when I had first, I think I'd been doing this for like half a year at the, that point. And I started filming this full time and everything and I got a DM from a kid from my high school. Who I never talked to. I think I had one class with him junior year.
53:10 Speaker 01 Oh my god, that's the worst.
53:12 Drew Afualo? And he DM'd me and was like, hey Drew, hope you're doing well. Anyways, um, so my girlfriend has this jewelry business.
53:20 Speaker 01 Ah.
53:20 Drew Afualo? She makes her own jewelry. I was just curious if you could post it and tag her and just like give her a shout out. Cause she really wants new customers. Thanks. I was like, do you think my inbox, I'm not even kidding, I blocked him like immediately. And I was like, do you think my inbox is like inquiries, like?
53:36 Speaker 01 Like.
53:37 Drew Afualo? Hey, does anyone need anything? Let me know. Like, is that, did you see me say that somewhere?
53:41 Speaker 01 Everyone from high school that was rude to me, what can I do for you?
53:44 Drew Afualo? Do you need anything from me?
53:46 Speaker 01 What do you need? Do you need to see my boobs? Like, what is it?
53:48 Drew Afualo? Hit me up, hit me up.
53:50 Speaker 01 Hit me up, please. Oh my god, recently, not recently, I guess like a year ago, I was back in Chicago and I was seeing a show that my friend had choreographed. And afterwards, this girl comes up to me and she's like, oh my god, hi, like, you know someone, like I know someone you went to high school with. And I was like, who? And she says the name of my literal bully from high school.
54:08 Drew Afualo? No fucking way.
54:09 Speaker 01 And I go, who's that? And she goes, oh, it's this person. Like she, you guys used to be, you were friends and da, da, da. And I go, I don't know who you're talking about. Best thing I've ever done. Best thing I've ever done.
54:20 Drew Afualo? That's so true.
54:21 Speaker 01 I don't know.
54:23 Drew Afualo? I've never heard that name in my life. I'm so sorry to that man.
54:26 Speaker 01 I'm so sorry to that.
54:27 Drew Afualo? So sorry to that man.
54:28 Speaker 01 Like, I'm so fucking sorry to that.
54:31 Drew Afualo? Never heard of that person in my fucking life, actually.
54:33 Speaker 01 Who threw a frisbee at my best friend's head to bully her at the time.
54:37 Drew Afualo? That's insane.
54:38 Speaker 01 High school was weird.
54:39 Drew Afualo? It was like such a, what a weird, strange thing to do as a bully.
54:43 Speaker 01 Sometimes when you get the lead.
54:47 Speaker 01 And they get your understudy.
54:49 Drew Afualo? Target put on your back.
54:50 Speaker 01 Oh, honey. Oh, honey. Your understudy is not your friend. In high school.
54:55 Drew Afualo? That's insane.
54:57 Speaker 01 It was.
54:57 Drew Afualo? I knew it was cutthroat in there, but I didn't know it was quite like that.
55:00 Speaker 01 Oh, listen.
55:00 Drew Afualo? In the theater department.
55:02 Speaker 01 Okay.
55:02 Drew Afualo? I didn't know they were moving that way.
55:04 Speaker 01 The only way we were cool.
55:06 Speaker 01 Everyone else was like, that nerd.
55:08 Drew Afualo? That is insane, though, that your, a high school bully would tell someone like, oh, we were such good friends.
55:14 Speaker 01 I gagged. I was like, and who's that? Hello. Hello. You made all my friends hate me. Hello.
55:22 Drew Afualo? And also, like, good luck explaining that when that girl goes back to them.
55:26 Speaker 01 No, it was fierce.
55:27 Drew Afualo? She said she's never met you in her life.
55:28 Speaker 01 No, and she totally could, like, pull up a photo of us and be like. Don't know that.
55:33 Drew Afualo? Sorry. I don't know that person ever.
55:36 Speaker 01 Must be a fan. Must be a fan. Like, he's in love.
55:41 Drew Afualo? There was a lot of people I didn't have time to hang out with in high school.
55:44 Speaker 01 I was busy with, like, the wedgie night.
55:46 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
55:48 Speaker 01 Clearly, and playing up and in live. All my leads and, um, the high school theater, like.
55:57 Drew Afualo? That's, that is really good. I love that, though. Nice full circle moment.
56:01 Speaker 01 It was beautiful.
56:02 Drew Afualo? It's a beautiful thing.
56:03 Speaker 01 It was so beautiful. I was like, oh, life can be, life can be good.
56:07 Drew Afualo? I've said before, there were people, like, that were really awful to me in high school, like, whether they used to be friends with me or not. Like, like, in high school, we, like, had a falling out. It's like girl, girlfriend shit. It's very normal.
56:20 Speaker 01 It happens.
56:21 Drew Afualo? But I literally think to myself, I'm like, I better never find out that you're telling people you know me.
56:26 Speaker 01 Well, that's what was happening.
56:27 Drew Afualo? Yeah, I better never, don't ever let me find out that you're saying we were friends.
56:32 Speaker 01 Oh, and are you saying you were my understudy too? Hello.
56:36 Drew Afualo? Did she tell you that little detail?
56:37 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
56:39 Speaker 01 Huh?
56:40 Drew Afualo? Did she forget?
56:40 Speaker 01 Who's successful now?
56:41 Drew Afualo? She forgot to share that little tidbit?
56:43 Speaker 01 Hmm, it's so sad. Like no, like I was, I will be petty for sixteen year old me forever.
56:48 Drew Afualo? Hell yeah.
56:48 Speaker 01 Hello?
56:49 Drew Afualo? I never forget.
56:50 Speaker 01 I never forget.
56:50 Drew Afualo? I will never forget.
56:51 Speaker 01 I will never once forget, Dila.
56:54 Drew Afualo? Okay, last, uh, fun fact. Um, do you remember what animals you had as a Webkins user as Happy1114?
57:02 Speaker 01 Okay, so, yes, of course I do. I had over fifty Webkins.
57:05 Drew Afualo? Damn.
57:06 Speaker 01 I had a hyper fixation, so like for years I would only ask for that for birthdays and Christmas. And like, like any way I could get a Webkins, like I would save up, like, like if I got like twenty dollars for something, I'd find it on the ground, because we were so poor. Like, I'd be like, oh my god, I can get a Webkins. So I had a koala named Snuggles. I had, um, that was my first one. No, I know, listen. I know my frickin' Webkins.
57:32 Speaker 01 I had a, um, a little, like, curly white dog, and I named her Fergie. It was fierce. It was so fierce.
57:41 Drew Afualo? You've been a diva since day one.
57:42 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
57:42 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
57:43 Speaker 01 Bear named Billy, clearly. Like-
57:46 Drew Afualo? Obviously, the bear's name was Billy.
57:47 Speaker 01 Obviously. I had like the Valentine's Day edition of the frog, and I named her Rose. Like, I remember, and my dad, when he like had moved out of our childhood house, he was like, "What do you want me to do with these?" And I was like, "You have to keep them all." Like, I still am like, I can't let go of my Webkins.
58:04 Drew Afualo? You have to.
58:04 Speaker 01 Those were my friends.
58:05 Drew Afualo? Yeah, you, you need them. There's a fair amount of, like, attachment to them at that point.
58:10 Speaker 01 I mean, I slept with them all on my little twin bed.
58:13 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
58:13 Speaker 01 My little twin bed, and I had so many, and I didn't, not just Webkins, but just like other plushies, like, I loved them, and I would sleep like this. So like, none of them would fall off the bed.
58:23 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
58:23 Speaker 01 If one fell off the bed, I would cry. There's some, I was a lonely kid.
58:29 Speaker 01 I was a lonely kid.
58:31 Drew Afualo? Well, also an animal lover.
58:32 Speaker 01 An animal lover.
58:33 Drew Afualo? Yeah, which is why, and I know you've loved animals, which I am so glad you have sugar then, since you had such an attachment to your plushies.
58:40 Speaker 01 Yeah.
58:41 Drew Afualo? I'm so glad you have sugar then.
58:42 Speaker 01 And she's a real life plushie.
58:43 Drew Afualo? Yeah, she's your real life plushie, for real.
58:45 Speaker 01 She's real. Like, oh my god.
58:47 Drew Afualo? Oh my god, well, thank you so much for coming to the show today.
58:51 Speaker 01 Thank you for having me.
58:51 Drew Afualo? I fucking love you.
58:52 Speaker 01 I love you.
58:53 Drew Afualo? I've missed you.
58:54 Speaker 01 I miss you too.
58:54 Drew Afualo? I feel like I see you all the time, but I don't. I think it's just because we see each other online all the time.
58:58 Speaker 01 I know, I see your beautiful face and I'm like, period. Like, like-
59:01 Drew Afualo? Yeah, me liking everything that you do.
59:03 Speaker 01 No, literally, I'm like, you're a similar person where it's like every time I see you win, I'm like, am I gonna cry? Like, it's just amazing. I don't know. It's like, when you just like watch, we all have just a similar experience that we all kind of only understand.
59:17 Drew Afualo? It feels so unique.
59:19 Speaker 01 It's so unique, and so I do, I'm always like, mm, like, it's just so sweet.
59:24 Drew Afualo? Same, and I want to tell you, I really do think you are someone special, and I think that you have a lot to offer the world of music. And I want to tell you, you are brave and courageous, and please don't give up. You are so fucking awesome. And you're meant to do amazing, great things.
59:38 Speaker 01 Thank you.
59:39 Drew Afualo? And you were meant to be here in this chair because we had to manifest.
59:41 Speaker 01 We had to manifest.
59:42 Drew Afualo? And I didn't even know it was right before tour, and that feels like fate.
59:45 Speaker 01 Something beautiful just happened.
59:46 Drew Afualo? Yeah, and I know you're very witchy woo woo like me.
59:48 Speaker 01 Oh yes, beyond.
59:50 Drew Afualo? Well, obviously you being a lesbian, obviously.
59:52 Speaker 01 Obviously.
59:53 Drew Afualo? That's in the guidebook when you become a lesbian.
59:55 Speaker 01 In the DNA, I guess.
59:55 Drew Afualo? Yeah, the crystals, the witchy woo woo shit, all of it.
59:58 Speaker 01 All of it, all of it.
59:59 Drew Afualo? I love it, so, and I love you, and I think you're incredible, and I'm so happy that you're embarking on this new pop star journey in like the way you want to do it. I think that's wonderful. And I think it was meant to happen that way, and I know it's gonna happen for you. And then, I'm gonna do what I do every time, which I'm like, I'm gonna say, "I fucking knew it." I knew it, I knew it, I smelled it, and I sensed it, and that's why you were in the chair.
1:00:22 Speaker 01 The day you say that is the day I'll know I made it.
1:00:24 Drew Afualo? Yeah.
1:00:25 Speaker 01 I'm gonna be waiting, just send me a voice message.
1:00:27 Drew Afualo? I will.
1:00:28 Speaker 01 I fucking knew it, and I'll be like, I've done it, I've done it.
1:00:31 Drew Afualo? Well, now you've been in the chair, what is said is done now. It's gonna happen for you. I'm so excited for you.
1:00:36 Speaker 01 Thank you so much.
1:00:37 Drew Afualo? And I'm so happy for you. Congratulations on the tour. It's gonna be so fucking fun. But where can everybody find you, stream your music, come see you?
1:00:43 Speaker 01 Look up Chrissy Shapaka, if you don't know how to spell my last name, figure it out, and you will see me on tour. It's all on my Instagram, everything I post about it like 70 times a day. And I got like four likes on every time I post it, but you're gonna see it, because baby- We're selling out.
1:00:58 Drew Afualo? Period and period. And thank you all so much for joining us on this episode. Thank you so much, my amazing guest Chrissy Schloppaka. Please go stream all her music. It's actually perfect. You can click right out of this and go stream all of Chrissy's music. I recommend starting with Passion Fruit. If you really want to kick it off, bitch, start with that one. Thank you so much for joining us. Make sure you go follow her. Make sure you go see her on tour. It's going to be amazing and thank you so much for tuning in. Don't forget, new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video is for free and exclusively on Spotify. Thank you so much, my amazing guest Chrissy. Thank you so much for joining us and I'll see you next week. Bye.
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