Bonus Episode: Compton, Conspiracies, and Mercy

This week in the After Party, Jake takes a look at the important musical history of Compton. Plus, your voicemails, DMs, and emails on subjects ranging from mercy to Lemmy to Frankie Goes to Hollywood(?). On Tuesday, we're bringing our episode on the late Brian Wilson, and Jake wants to know: Who is the best example from music history of a "tortured genius?" Share your thoughts at 617-906 6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. To listen to an extended version of the After Party and hear Jake and Zeth discuss a wild theory about the death of Eazy-E, become a Disgraceland All Access member at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠disgracelandpod.com/membership⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠ For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode ⁠37⁠ https://www.disgracelandpod.com/037/nwa-pt-1 and ⁠38⁠ https://www.disgracelandpod.com/038/nwa-pt-2 - NWA Episode ⁠57⁠ https://www.disgracelandpod.com/057/nipsey-hussle - Nipsey Hussle Episode ⁠27⁠ https://www.disgracelandpod.com/027/snoop-dogg - Snoop Doggy Dogg To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is exactly right.

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• 1:59Speaker 03

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• 2:16Jake Brennan?

  Hey Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand: The Afterparty.

• 2:43Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the DisgraceLand bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of DisgraceLand to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission: to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're talking about this week's full-episode subject, Kendrick Lamar. And we're rewinding back to our Graham Parsons episode, previewing our upcoming story on Brian Wilson. And we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. DisgraceLand is where I tell the stories

• 3:27Jake Brennan?

  they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, Discos, let's get into it.

• 3:45Jake Brennan?

  Compton, the setting for this week's full-episode of DisgraceLand on Kendrick Lamar, located south of downtown LA, is regarded by its residents as a tight-knit community. But for music fans, Compton gives an outsized impression, one that I would say is actually mythic. And that's because Compton, from the 1980s on, has given us some of the most exciting music and culture. Growing up, NWA's "Straight Outta Compton" was a view into a world that captivated those of us who were out in the middle of nowhere, America. Drugs, beat downs, crooked cops, drive-by shootings. What the hell was this place?

• 4:30Jake Brennan?

  Now, I'm certain that as a kid, the first time I even heard the name Compton, it was on that record. And I'm pretty sure it was like that for a lot of people my age who weren't from Los Angeles. Now imagine being born into that world as Kendrick Lamar was and taking all of that influence as your birthright and using it to turn yourself into one of the biggest and most influential modern musical artists on the planet. It's pretty impressive. And no other modern musician has taken Compton as far as Kendrick Lamar has. I said, "modern musician." So, slow your roll. I know you're gonna come at me with your NWA Dr. Dre Ice Cube takes. But again, I said, "modern," "modern musician."

• 5:15Jake Brennan?

  What Dr. Dre did in the 90s was incredible, super impressive. Yes, groundbreaking, sure, but that was then and this is now. But you know, for people like me, and I suspect people like you, that history is more interesting. So, let's look at what Compton and the greater South Central region of Los Angeles has given us for great music, shall we? I already mentioned the shot heard around the world, NWA's "Straight Outta Compton" from 1988. It's indisputably one of the greatest hip-hop albums ever. Certainly, one of the most consequential. And it's bookended on the front side by Eazy-E's 1987 single, "Easy Does It."

• 5:59Jake Brennan?

  And on the backside, by Dr. Dre's solo debut, "The Chronic," which comes a little bit later, in 1992. A great record that is also born of this world that doesn't get enough mention, in my view, is Eazy-E's bandmate Ice Cube in his sophomore effort, The Predator, also from 1992. Now rewind back before Eazy-E and to South Central Los Angeles, not Compton exactly, but pretty much the same neighborhood, same area of LA. And we get Ice T's 1987 debut Rhyme Pays with its gangster rap, genre-defining track, "Six in the Morning."

• 6:40Jake Brennan?

  All four of these records, Rhyme Pays by Ice T, Eazy-E's first solo album, Straight Outta Compton, Dr. Dre's Chronic, The Predator by Ice Cube, that's five records actually, all five of these records, they stand up to the scrutiny of time nearly 40 years later. Kendrick Lamar was in diapers when this music was released. And his second album, 2015's To Pimp a Butterfly, it deserves to be on this list, as does Kendrick's fallen contemporary Nipsey Hussle's Mailbox Money. These albums, more than their great music and influence on culture, to me, anyway,

• 7:20Jake Brennan?

  they're mile markers that point us toward just some of the wildest true crime stories from music history. It's crazy. The murder of Nipsey Hussle, the survival of Kendrick Lamar, the true story behind Ice T's actual life of crime that no one seems to really talk about, except me, I don't know why. And then, of course, the strange death of Eazy-E. Eazy-E's official cause of death was from HIV/AIDS. However, in 2015, his son, young Eazy, claimed that his father, Eric Wright, AKA Eazy-E, got sick after an incident with Suge Knight in the recording studio.

• 8:04Jake Brennan?

  Which, okay. And then, there are these comments from Shug Knight on Jimmy Kimmel Live from 2003.

• 8:12Speaker 05

  Fresh out of jail, come to check you out, right?

• 8:14Jake Brennan?

  Right.

• 8:14Speaker 05

  Why the blue proof vest?

• 8:16Jake Brennan?

  Oh, it's not, oh no, that's just, it's in his style. You've been in the can for a while.

• 8:21Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 8:22Jake Brennan?

  It's what all the Talk Show hosts are wearing.

• 8:24Speaker 05

  This is a new thing, right?

• 8:25Jake Brennan?

  Yeah.

• 8:25Speaker 05

  See, if somebody gonna do somebody, see, technology is so high, right?

• 8:29Jake Brennan?

  Right.

• 8:30Speaker 05

  So if you shoot somebody, you go to jail forever. So the kids, you don't wanna go to jail forever, right? So they got this new thing out that people sell them all the time. They got this stuff they call, they get blood from somebody with AIDS?

• 8:41Jake Brennan?

  Yeah.

• 8:42Speaker 05

  And then they shoot you with it.

• 8:42Jake Brennan?

  Oh, well, that seems bad.

• 8:44Speaker 05

  That's a slow death.

• 8:45Jake Brennan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:46Speaker 05

  Easy, easy thing, you know what I mean?

• 8:47Jake Brennan?

  Yeah.

• 8:48Speaker 06

  Oh, no. Okay. Way to lighten the mood.

• 8:52Jake Brennan?

  Wow. In the exclusive section of this episode that's coming up, Zeth and I are gonna dive into the merits behind whatever the fuck it is that Shug Knight is talking about here, and Young Eazy's claim that Shug Knight had his father killed via this horrific method that Shug himself is describing on national television. Now, I've heard these rumors before, they came up briefly in the Eazy-E episode that we did. It's something that I've never fully wanted to dive into until now, cuz I just, I got comped in on my brain. So we're gonna dig into this, like I said, in the exclusive section of this after-party,

• 9:37Jake Brennan?

  me and Zeth. We're gonna bring it to you, we're gonna, we're gonna talk about whether or not we think there's enough here for, to warrant its own episode of Disgraceland. But, you know, if, if it is, or if it isn't, you're gonna get more information. And to hear it, though, you gotta become a Disgraceland All-Access member on Patreon or Apple subscriptions. Go to disgracelandpod.com/membership to sign up. It's only five bucks a month. You're not only gonna get these deeper dives into music history and mythology here in the form of exclusive content every month, you're also going to get ad-free listening on all episodes of Disgraceland and Hollywoodland. That's disgracelandpod.com/membership. Just five bucks to become an All-Access member to help support the show and our mission of digging out and discussing the wildest stories from music history.

• 10:22Jake Brennan?

  I'll be back in just a minute with your voicemails, texts, DMs, and more.

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• 12:50Jake Brennan?

  All right, all right, all right. We are back. Speaking of all right, all right, all right. Has anybody read Matthew McConaughey's book? I have not. I heard it's great. I heard it's really inspiring and I want to read it. New True Detective news as well. Nick Cage supposedly involved. All right, getting way off track. Listen, this week, True Detective aside, Matthew McConaughey aside. All right, all right, all right. Kendrick Lamar in your feed right now. Check that story out if you have not heard it. Coming up next in the feed, we are rewinding to Graham Parsons, our Graham Parsons story. I put my heart and my soul into everything I write for you guys,

• 13:31Jake Brennan?

  but it's hard for me to think of another episode where I lay bare my own emotions as heavily as I did in this Graham Parsons episode and Graham's, I sort of use Graham's dealings with grief as a proxy for my own at the time and what I was going through. I remember distinctly writing that episode and just how helpful it was to have Graham Parsons, the spirit of Graham Parsons and his music with me during that really, really rough summer. So that is coming out next in our feed. That'll be hitting up next after this episode. And then we're doing something a little bit different. We're gonna, we're

• 14:14Jake Brennan?

  gonna sneak in Beach Boys Part One, Beach Boys Part Two in the coming days after Graham Parsons, because we have a new episode on Brian Wilson, who, you know, passed away a couple of months ago. And I decided, hey, I want to do a Brian Wilson episode. So I got in there, I wrote this Brian Wilson episode. It's essentially part three of our Beach Boys story. It's, ah, man, Brian Wilson, this was, this was tough. This was a tough one to write because so much has been said, written, put on film about Brian Wilson. And Brian Wilson... One of the rare artists who, there's a couple of things, his autobiography is incredible. It's really, really great. He's totally hard on the sleeve. He tells his story in a way

• 14:59Jake Brennan?

  that only he can. So that makes it hard for somebody like me to come in and write, write the story, or tell a unique story, or come in with a unique point of view. But then also, the rare thing is, Brian Wilson, unlike most musicians who have biopics, the biopic on Brian Wilson is actually really good, I think anyways, Love and Mercy. And that just makes it, again, it makes it difficult when, when the stories that are out there are really good, and they cover a lot of the most interesting stuff, and there's not a lot, a lot, not a lot left in the cracks for us to mine out. Makes it really difficult to tell these stories in a unique way. But I think, you know, I think, I hope, I hope we did a good job. I really kind of leaned into the spirit of Brian Wilson here. And

• 15:42Jake Brennan?

  I did not, Zeth and I, and the rest of us at Double Elvis, we didn't intend to have the Kendrick episode and the Brian Wilson episode hanging on the same theme. Zeth wrote the Kendrick episode, I wrote the Brian Wilson one. But, but mercy is part of the, thematically is part of the same thing here with both episodes. So it just worked out that way. But whatever, doesn't really matter. I like when we're hanging on a theme, and I hope you dig this episode that's coming up next Tuesday. It's our next new episode of Disgraceful on Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys. Question of the week for next week, when you're listening to that Brian Wilson episode, is going to be, which figure from music history is the best example of a tortured genius? Is it Brian Wilson? Is it someone

• 16:27Jake Brennan?

  like Kurt Cobain, or Sly Stone, who also recently departed? Marvin Gaye? Or maybe it's someone new, like Youngblood? I don't know, there's a lot of examples to pull from here. And perhaps to help organize your thinking, give me recommendations, maybe, on, on subjects that I haven't covered yet. We haven't covered yet in Disgraceful that you might want to hear us cover. Okay? So when you're listening to Brian Wilson, for obvious reasons, the question is going to be, what is the best example from music history of a tortured genius? 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text to let me know.

• 17:01Jake Brennan?

  Right now, though, you know where I am at. I am in the phone booth, the one across the hall. I am hanging on the telephone. We're answering last week's question of the week spawned from our Kendrick episode. Which artist demonstrated the greatest act of mercy? Kind of an esoteric question for us to ask, but I don't know, we went there. And let's check in with Cynthia in the 510.

• 17:24Speaker 07

  Hey Jake, it's Cynthia calling from California. And musician with the most with mercy was Joan Jett. I went to go see her in the late 90s. First time I ever got to see her. I've been a fan since I was seven years old. And I had a full blown panic attack, like third song in. I didn't know what was happening. My head was totally spinning out. And as they were taking me out, because I was in the very front, I was complaining that I've been wanting to see her since I was seven. So I had to spend the rest of the time in the medic tent, probably about, I don't know, 30 minutes. It was a short set. Afterwards, a friend of

• 18:09Speaker 07

  mine had gotten to some people backstage. And when she was doing autograph signing at the end, she had me go behind the desk where she was, and asked if I wanted to take a picture. I said, yes. I was still kind of groggy after that. And, you know, she put her arm around my shoulder and she would just look at me. And she's like, are you okay? And I said, yeah. And she gave me a little squeeze on the arm. And then we took the picture. And it was so awesome. She was so cool. Just a really cool, genuine person. So that was my story. I hope you guys are doing well. Take care.

• 18:48Jake Brennan?

  Cynthia, this is an incredible story, and I thank you for sharing it with us. I love the personal stories. And I always liked Joan Jett. I've never met her. I don't know much about her history, other than, you know, just the sort of top level Wikipedia stuff, what everybody knows. And it's just, it warmed my heart to hear you tell that story. And for me to learn that Joan Jett is just a great person, it sounds like. Super cool. Love it. And by the way, you got a great friend there who went and hooked that all up for you. Went backstage, sought out Joan Jett, got you to connect with her. That's no easy thing to do. All right, let's check in with the 724. Same question here. 724 writes in, "Hey, as for the topic of next week, it's hard not to think of the most merciful artist and not

• 19:33Jake Brennan?

  think of the Appalachian Queen herself, Dolly Parton. That woman through her park, her reading program, helping wildlife, LGBTQ+ support and more. Make whatever jokes you want about the woman's chest, but behind is an absolute heart of gold."

• 19:53Jake Brennan?

  I wasn't gonna say anything about Dolly Parton's chest. I've never, I've never said anything about Dolly Parton's chest to you guys or anyone else that I know of. I hear you. Dolly Parton is the shit. She's amazing and we should all celebrate Dolly Parton. And she's a great candidate for incredible acts of mercy from music history. 816 writes in, "Hey Jake, it's Shane from the 816. My text is in regards both to artists showing mercy and first concerts. My son's first concert at age three was cross-Canadian ragweed. And if you haven't heard of them, they're a music royalty in the red dirt scene. And not only was the show amazing, when Cody walked out to start the show, he saw my wife standing there, front row with a baby and a carrier on her chest and made the security

• 20:38Jake Brennan?

  go get three more barricade fences and box us in on the remaining three sides. So we had our own little corral of front row space. So nobody could bump or spill beer on the baby. True class acts. Look into CCR and the red dirt scene. Guys who had the opportunity to blow up but chose not to sell out. Love that. 816." I will certainly check that out. And that must've made you guys feel pretty, pretty badass, pretty special. Let's hear from Armin in Calgary.

• 21:06Speaker 00

  Hey, this is Armin in the 403587. I just wanted to find out if you knew about Lenny appearing onstage with Frankie Goes to Hollywood on German TV. If you've not seen it, you need to watch it. Once again, Armin in the 403587, Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Love the show. Listen every week faithfully.

• 21:29Jake Brennan?

  Armin from Calgary, this is exactly why I love this gig. I have never once in my life heard of Lenny performing with Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

• 21:43Jake Brennan?

  And I'm so happy for it. I'm so excited. I'm gonna watch. I hope everybody else watches and I hope we come back next week and we talk about it. 617-906-6638. I want everybody's take on Lemmy from Motorhead collaborating with Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Okay? And don't bring up Dolly Parton's chest when you give me your Lemmy takes regarding Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Okay, now, let's do a couple of emails because I've been neglecting the emails lately. Not on purpose, it just happens. Claire Bifford, or Biford, I'm not sure how to pronounce her last name, writes in, "Hey, greetings from beautiful Cornwall, England. I'm a longtime listener of Disgrace and Hollywoodland and love the interaction

• 22:25Jake Brennan?

  between Jake and Zeph in the new rap parties." She goes on to say, "Can I recommend a Western read, The Sisters Brothers by Patrick DeWitt? I'm not especially a Western fan, but this book blew me away. It is set during the Gold Rush and has some of the true life grit that is often missing from stories and films of that period." Yes, Claire, this is exactly what I'm looking for. Claire goes on to say, "The book has been made into a film with some big names in it, but I haven't watched it as it won't match my imagination, which was set alive by the pros. I loved your episode about the Cramps, which explained how the hell they were on the same bill as the Police when my brother and I saw them at our school's leisure center back in the day. It was around about the time the Police released their first album, probably before you were born. My brother Simon followed the Cramps around a

• 23:07Jake Brennan?

  few more of their gigs in the UK and bumped into Brian Gregory in the bar on one occasion, and he bummed a cigarette off Brian," that's Brian Gregory from the Cramps, "hoping for an exotically flavored one, but it turned out to be a good old fashioned Lambert and Butler." Claire, email us every week. I love your writing. This is great. Claire goes on to say, "Favorite band, Thin Lizzy. Favorite male artist, Bowie. Favorite female artist, Gladys Knight. Top three albums, Diamond Dogs, Bowie. Core, Stone Temple Pilots," didn't see that coming, Claire. "Fisherman's Blues by The Waterboys, that makes sense. Really love your work. Rock-a-rola, Claire." Claire, you even spelled out Rock-a-rola correct. Write us back anytime. Damn, hanging out with the Cramps, recommending great Westerns.

• 23:51Jake Brennan?

  Claire, you're the best. I'm gonna read The Sisters Brothers by Patrick DeWitt. I'm looking forward to it. I got one book coming. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I'm in this, I hate, I hate this, this, this like, period where the book's not, I finished the last book, the new book's not here. Like, what am I gonna do? I need to be reading something, always. Right now, I'm going to read this email from John McNeely, AKA Johnny Vinyl, who writes saying, "Hey Jake, your Motorhead Lemmy episode was awesome. You had so much detail in there. What a cool story about you meeting him back in the 90s. I can't say I met him, but when I lived in LA in the early 2000s, I saw him a few times at the Rainbow Room playing the One-Arm Bandit. And one of those times, I got a head nod. One of my favorite rock docs is aptly titled Lemmy that I own on DVD and have watched a few times.

• 24:34Jake Brennan?

  And to think he lived in a small rent-controlled apartment is so rock and roll. Like Ozzy, they just don't make them like that anymore. We were lucky to be alive at the same time as those legends. John McNeely." John, you're absolutely right. Complete legend, and we are lucky to have breathed the same air the same time and place as these dudes. Pretty, pretty awesome. [email protected]. If you guys want to send me an email, 617-906-6638. You want to hit me up on voicemail or leave me a text at disgraclempod. On the socials, I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash.

• 25:16Speaker 08

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• 25:46Speaker 03

  Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extentur, Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting, it may be time to try something else. Extentur is an ultra-long-acting prescription-maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extentur is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection, common cold, sinus infection,

• 26:31Speaker 03

  inflammation in the nose, flu or flulike symptoms, joint pain, or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extensure. Learn more at extensure.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 26:47Speaker 09

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• 27:00Speaker 10

  The moment that there is a compound that someone in a lab thinks it would be effective to treat a certain disease, it takes about 10 to 13 years from that moment to when that drug is on a shelf for a patient. A big part of that gap could be computationally solved. Better simulation of compounds, designing drug trials that are more efficient, that would finish faster. That was the motivation to bring computational tools and technology closer to biomedical researchers.

• 27:34Speaker 09

  Learn more about how Cleveland Clinic and IBM are using AI and quantum computing to revolutionize biomedical research at ibm.com/smarttalks.

• 27:53Jake Brennan?

  All right, welcome back to the disgraced land after-party. Listen, you might be one of those people who's just sitting around, you're going through your business and you're like, look, I'm just so sick of these podcasts that I'm listening to. I got, I got like four or five podcasts that I'm, that I'm subscribed to, that I'm following. I'm really in on like two of them. The others, they just kind of build up in my feed and I don't really check in on them enough to really justify having them still be subscribed to. And you know, I'm, I'm never going to listen to them. So, so you know, I know, I know, you know, there's only so much time, but I just want to tell you something. You need, if you need to swap one out and swap a new podcast in, I would highly recommend

• 28:35Jake Brennan?

  a podcast called Hollywood Land by yours truly. And here, me and the, me and the fine folks at Double Elvis, we put this together for you. We created this massive archive of Hollywood and true crime stories and you can get, you can get an archive episode every week, plus a new episode. Helmed by none other than the great Zeth Lundie, where Zeth will bring you through that week's subject in an engaging and compelling way. I'm in there as well, talking to Zeth, giving you our recommendations, talking about whatever that week's subject is. This week's subject was Lindsay Lohan. Now, we do this bit where I've got to do music recommendations based on the Hollywoodland subject. And Matt, why don't you give the fine people a taste of Hollywoodland?

• 29:20Speaker 06

  Jake, what music recs inspired by Lindsay Lohan do you have for us today?

• 29:25Jake Brennan?

  Ooh, this was a weird way into music recommendations, I'm not gonna lie. Lindsay Lohan, To the Canyons, To the Canyon soundtrack. Not a lot of great stuff on there, but a great band, The Dum Dum Girls from the late aughts. Yep, you're nodding along. You remember The Dum Dum Girls. Dum Dum Girls, I could just recommend them and that would be fine. However, I'm going to recommend an entryway song for you guys. It's Smith's cover. The Dum Dum Girls cover of There's a Light That Never Goes Out by the Smiths. Incredible Smith song. And their version is amazing. And it's cool to hear this song from a female perspective. It's from EP they put out in 2011 called He Gets Me High.

• 30:07Jake Brennan?

  Dum Dum Girls, There's a Light That Never Goes Out. Lindsay Lohan, I thought Lindsay, I could go Lindsay Buckingham. I could go Buckingham Nicks because they're all in the news lately. But that, no, I'm not doing that. I thought Lohan, Han, Hancock, Herbie Hancock, okay? A lot of people, if they're gonna recommend a Herbie Hancock album, they're gonna recommend Headhunters. And they should because it's a fantastic album.

• 30:35Speaker 06

  It's amazing.

• 30:36Jake Brennan?

  However, I'm going to recommend the album that my father once pulled out of a stack of records in my living room about 15 years ago and gave me a look like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And that is the Herbie Hancock album, 1969, Fat Albert Rotunda.

• 30:52Speaker 06

  Okay, I love that album.

• 30:54Jake Brennan?

  Yes!

• 30:55Speaker 06

  And your dad hates it because I brought it up to your dad once because I, was it your dad?

• 31:00Jake Brennan?

  It's gotta be. He has a special loathing for it.

• 31:02Speaker 06

  Yes, because I mentioned, I was thinking of doing the sound design for an episode along the lines of that. And I mentioned to him and he was like, ugh.

• 31:11Jake Brennan?

  Guys, subscribe to Hollywoodland wherever you get your podcasts. Get more content from Double Elvis on the reg. And if you become an All-Access member here in Disgrace Land, you're going to get those Hollywoodland episodes ad-free as well. All right? So, listen.

• 31:29Jake Brennan?

  You know what time it is. It's that time. It's time for the 60-second sports rant in under 30 seconds. Once again, sponsored by the fine folks at Five Hour Energy in their new confetti craze flavor. It tastes just like birthday cake with a vanilla and buttery flavor to let you be unapologetically extra and unstoppable energized. Head to your local retailer, www.fivehourenergy.com, or Amazon to order yours today. Okay, Matt, give me the buzzer beater. There was a time when I was younger and I would listen to sports talk radio in Boston, and I would hear these dudes speaking. And I would listen to their ridiculous old guy takes and feel so self-satisfied with my youthful perspective,

• 32:12Jake Brennan?

  my whatever modern point of view on whatever the hell it was that they were talking about, their disdain for baseball's saber metrics. And I was just like, whatever, man. Whatever helps the Red Sox win. I don't care. I don't care what you do to win, just win. Or how they couldn't deal with Randy Moss's diva attitude. And I would just be like, who cares? Have you seen what that dude is doing on the field with Tom Brady? Whatever gets us to another Super Bowl. Whatever the argument was, I found myself disagreeing with the old guy take. Fast forward to now, and I am filled with old guy takes. My son is playing flag football. He's on the Raiders. So, I decided to go on YouTube and show him some clips from Raider football in the 70s and 80s.

• 32:57Jake Brennan?

  And my son is seven years old, by the way. As soon as the highlights start, defensive highlights, that's all I'm showing him, as soon as they start, footage of Jack Tatum, Howie Long, Ted Hendricks, just wrecking people on the hard Astro turf, pulling them down, horse collarin' dudes. Almost every single hit was head-to-head contact, just violent. And literally from the jump, every single hit, every single highlight, my son starts going, "That's illegal. That's illegal. Dad, you can't do that." And I'm laughing because he's not wrong. Because now, yes, all of those hits are illegal. But then, they were all legal, every single one of them.

• 33:38Jake Brennan?

  And of course, sadly today, this type of physical play in the NFL, it won't just get the refs to pull their flags, it'll get the offending players thrown out of the game, suspended in some cases. Now, of course, being a proud member of Generation X, I love this style of football and I miss this style of football. And this was going to be the topic of my rant today, but then I thought, damn man, what an old guy take. I'm the old guy. So I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to complain about how things were better back in the day because man, oh man, do I detest being that guy. Yet here I am, that guy. All right, Matt, how'd I do?

• 34:15Speaker 06

  Two minutes and 18 seconds, Jake.

• 34:17Jake Brennan?

  Damn, man. I think I gotta get, uh, I gotta get Howie, Howie Long to put me into some training regimen here to, uh, you know, get up to snuff and get in under 30 seconds. All right. That was the sports rant sponsored by five hour energy's new confetti craze flavor. Unleash your party vibes and as much caffeine as your favorite 12 ounce fancy coffee, but with zero sugar and zero crash available in stores on Amazon or at www dot five hour energy.com. All right. Speaking of football, you know, who once played football, not for the Raiders, but for the Rams, Suge Knight. And in the upcoming exclusive section of this here after party coming up in seconds, we will be looking into the insane story about

• 35:01Jake Brennan?

  Suge Knight allegedly injecting Eazy-E with HIV AIDS. Once again, here's Suge giving his best OJ Simpson, if I did it to Jimmy Kimmel.

• 35:13Speaker 05

  Technology is so high, right?

• 35:15Jake Brennan?

  Right.

• 35:15Speaker 05

  So if you shoot somebody, you go to jail forever. So the kids, you don't want to go to jail forever, right? So they got this new thing out that people sell them all the time. They got this stuff they call, they get blood from somebody with AIDS and they shoot you with it.

• 35:28Jake Brennan?

  Oh, well, that seems bad.

• 35:29Speaker 05

  That's a slow death.

• 35:30Jake Brennan?

  Yeah.

• 35:31Speaker 05

  The Eazy-E thing, you know what I mean?

• 35:33Jake Brennan?

  Yeah.

• 35:36Speaker 06

  Way to lighten the mood.

• 35:38Jake Brennan?

  Wild. All right. We're going to get into this as well as comments from Eazy-E's son on this subject as well, coming up momentarily. But like I said earlier, you gotta be a disgraced land all access member to access this exclusive content. Go to www dot disgracelandpod.com slash membership to sign up for just five bucks a month. Less than a cup of Suge Knight's prison tears, and it'll also get you ad-free listening on all DisgraceLand and Hollywoodland shows and the satisfaction of knowing that you are a real one, a musical obsessive and outsider who supports DisgraceLand and helps us keep cranking out stories that you want to hear, but the chasm doesn't want

• 36:18Jake Brennan?

  us to tell. Once again, that's disgracelandpod.com/membership to support us for just $5 a month and unlock a whole bunch of exclusive and ad-free content.

• 36:45Jake Brennan?

  All right, guys, we are back. Let's talk about the DisgraceLand Vault real quick. In this episode, we talked about Nipsey Hussle, we talked about NWA, Eazy-E, Ice-T. We have episodes on all these dudes, and they're all waiting for you in the DisgraceLand archive with, I don't know, what, 250 episodes, whatever we got on 250 different artists or however many. And Mr. Matt Bowden will have the episode information for each of these stories in the show notes of this after-party for you to easily seek them out. All right, I gotta go. Let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week's full episode on Kendrick Lamar. This new DisgraceLand episode is waiting for you right now. Number two, Grant Parsons is in our rewind slot. That's coming up right after this after-party. Then we get two Beach Boys

• 37:28Jake Brennan?

  episodes we're rewinding as we get into our new part three episode on Brian Wilson. Right now, in the Hollywoodland feed, this is number four, I think, we have Lindsay Lohan. You can check that out. Number five, 617-906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history, so keep calling, keep texting with your answers to this week's question of the week, or whatever the hell else you guys want to talk about. Claire, hit us back. Number six, don't forget, Discos. This isn't just content, it's a community, a community of the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books, record, and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do, and well, that's a disgrace. All right, Kendrick Lamar, you've heard of him before. This week's full episode subject was born

• 38:09Jake Brennan?

  on June 17, 1987, and this is what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts.

• 38:20Jake Brennan?

  Number one, I want to dance with somebody. Whitney Houston. Last week, three. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, seven. Number two, head to toe, Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, 12. Number three, in too deep, Genesis. Last week, four. Peak position, three. Weeks on chart, 10. Number four, Alone, Heart. Last week, six. Peak position, four. Weeks on chart, seven. Number five, Always, Atlantic Star.

• 39:04Jake Brennan?

  Last week, two.

• 39:16Speaker 06

  Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it.

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• 39:50Jake Brennan?

  Hey guys, time to dust off your detective skills while unwinding in the Caribbean on Virgin Voyages' second true crime voyage. It's back by popular demand. This five-night, adults-only escape sets sail March 20, 2027, to Grand Turk in the Beach Club at Bimini. The difference between this year and last will be that I will be on the cruise this year, along with Zeph, and he and I will be taping a live version of DisgraceLand along with podcast hosts from Exactly Right's Buried Bones, Podcast of the Year Award winners Wise Crack, and other fan favorites. Get on this cruise with us, guys, and enjoy live podcast recordings, behind-the-scenes storytelling, exclusive meet-and-greets, and immersive true crime programming throughout this one-of-a-kind voyage.

• 40:34Jake Brennan?

  Head over to www.virginvoyages.com/trucrime to secure your spot.

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