Giggling about bidets, bahn mi, and scorpio season

Paige is pissed off and Hannah is on a cat cafe/street food world tour.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Hannah Berner?

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• 0:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces. And let's just say, these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set.

• 1:26Paige DeSorbo?

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• 1:38Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 1:47Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend, like, doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:55Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:12Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:25Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing, it's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:50Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 2:55Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 3:01Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:13Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:16Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:29Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Carrie, fix the wifi.

• 3:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  We can't be managed.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:52Hannah Berner?

  What's up, my guava gigglers? It's currently 5:36 PM in Hong Kong, where I am reporting for duty, and Paige texts me.

• 4:03Paige DeSorbo?

  It's 5:30 AM in Miami. I texted Hannah and I said, "I'm so sick, but I'm awake. Do you want to just record?"

• 4:12Hannah Berner?

  I can't believe you're so sick right now, but I feel like you love it because it's like main character energy to be sick.

• 4:19Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I always get sick since I was in like 4th grade around Halloween. I've missed Halloweens before because I was so sick.

• 4:28Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god.

• 4:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Halloween and my birthday, just something happens to my body where it's like, it's too much.

• 4:35Hannah Berner?

  It's too much Scorpio.

• 4:38Paige DeSorbo?

  It's too much, I'm Scorpio-ing too hard.

• 4:41Hannah Berner?

  Too close to the sun. Also, I just realized, I don't know if I'm like growing up or getting more boring, but I literally forgot Halloween this year.

• 4:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Halloween?

• 4:52Hannah Berner?

  Like, did you do anything?

• 4:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I was doing like an interview the other day and they were like, "Oh, what are you doing for Halloween?" And I was like, "I'm taking the year off."

• 5:01Hannah Berner?

  I'm at capacity, babe. I'm at capacity.

• 5:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I'm turning 34. I actually should be getting a child ready for Halloween and so I can't.

• 5:13Hannah Berner?

  No, I mean, in theory, I would love to like think of a really fun idea. Prepare it, execute it. And we did it the last year. So, last two years, last year we did multiple outfits. Like, that should count as like a rollover.

• 5:27Paige DeSorbo?

  We did? What did we do?

• 5:29Hannah Berner?

  Weren't we on tour? No, that was two years ago. It's all blending into one. All I know is I was the Australian dancer and I embodied her.

• 5:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you did.

• 5:40Hannah Berner?

  What's it called when like male actors?

• 5:42Paige DeSorbo?

  You were method acting.

• 5:43Hannah Berner?

  I was method acting. I became Australian.

• 5:46Paige DeSorbo?

  When male actors ignore their families, yeah.

• 5:49Hannah Berner?

  What's it called when male actors do anything? Update on my bowel system.

• 5:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:55Hannah Berner?

  It's funny because like my DMs are so different than my like Instagram comments. Because the comments, the gigglers, they're funny, they're silly. The DMs, they're like, "Hey..."

• 6:05Paige DeSorbo?

  This is medical.

• 6:06Hannah Berner?

  One-on-one. "How's your..." Like, I'm posting all these food tours and they're all like, "Hey, just checking in. Have you pooped yet?" Like, literally like a cute mom, like, "Have you pooped? Let the community know."

• 6:20Hannah Berner?

  Good news is I had doctors message me regarding my... What was it called? Dulcolaxine? What did I... Dulcolax.

• 6:29Paige DeSorbo?

  And I think that's the best thing that's come out of, I was gonna say out of Disney.

• 6:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm really not well.

• 6:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Out of Giggly Squad is we have so many connections to so many doctors.

• 6:43Hannah Berner?

  We're literally doing a crowdsourced of women in STEM every time we're on the pod.

• 6:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I think my DMs could cure endometriosis. Like, I'm not kidding.

• 6:53Hannah Berner?

  I get more attention from doctors in my DMs than I do when I'm in the waiting room at a doctor's office. The doctor just ignores me, doesn't make eye contact, asks me if I'm depressed, and then walks out.

• 7:06Paige DeSorbo?

  You walk out of your doctor's office, you're like, "Whatever, I'll just look at my DMs, actually."

• 7:12Hannah Berner?

  Also, I love doctors like out of their doctor uniform. I was gonna say costume.

• 7:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And that would be really mean.

• 7:22Hannah Berner?

  They're like, "I went to 17 years of med school, shut the fuck up."

• 7:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:28Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's like when you see your teacher like at the grocery store, just weird. So like, when a doctor DMs me, they're so chilled, they're like, "Hey, by the way, doctor, um..."

• 7:37Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and it's good that they say "doctor" because I am listening to any random person. I'm like, wait, I should check if they in fact are a doctor.

• 7:47Hannah Berner?

  By the way, everyone in Vietnam called me lady. Like, they're like, "Lady, do this, lady, sit, lady, come."

• 7:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I kind of love that, though.

• 7:54Hannah Berner?

  I know. I was like, "I'm a lady." So, the doctor said, "You taking Dulcolax was you going..." She used the word "nuclear" on your stomach. And she basically was like, "Dulcolax is like the most powerful laxative you can take." And she was like, "That was insane behavior."

• 8:14Paige DeSorbo?

  So then why did they sell it?

• 8:16Hannah Berner?

  Where's the warning label?

• 8:18Paige DeSorbo?

  And what does the FDA have to say about it?

• 8:21Hannah Berner?

  And laxatives, they clearly are not all created equal, so they should have like, you know, like a spice level, maybe? Like, you know, salsa?

• 8:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait.

• 8:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Why don't they have salsa-level warnings?

• 8:35Hannah Berner?

  Because apparently you could have like a little motion in the ocean, but this was like a volcanic eruption. But, for, I did, so I did have like diarrhea during that, but like not really that much. And then, the next like day, I had like little baby poops. Like, baby, but like at least there was movement. And now I'm stuck again, but it's not as painful.

• 8:57Paige DeSorbo?

  What a journey.

• 8:59Hannah Berner?

  But honestly, it's way better than when I'm my normal self, which is just like...

• 9:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Going to the bathroom all the time.

• 9:05Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like, I eat whatever I want and I'm not worried what's gonna happen.

• 9:09Paige DeSorbo?

  On an average day in America, how many times are you going to the bathroom? Like, you're fully going number two.

• 9:18Hannah Berner?

  I feel like I poop after every meal.

• 9:20Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like a dog.

• 9:23Hannah Berner?

  And if I'm like a little nervous about something, which is all the time, then it gets, I guess, stomach ache.

• 9:30Paige DeSorbo?

  We have to literally get you a litter box. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. So you eat and then 45 minutes later, you know you're gonna shit it out?

• 9:39Hannah Berner?

  Or earlier.

• 9:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Is your body taking any nutrients in? That feels so quick. That feels alarmingly fast.

• 9:49Hannah Berner?

  I thought I had a fast metabolism, but according to my Botox, I don't.

• 9:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, you know what is so funny is we kept saying that to people. We were like, "Okay, but Hannah actually has like a crazy fast metabolism."

• 10:03Hannah Berner?

  I started a rumor about myself that I had a fast metabolism and no one questioned it.

• 10:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, "I don't know why it's not going down. Like, she sweats so much. You would think that it would..."

• 10:13Hannah Berner?

  She eats and she moves non-stop. Like, stuff is moving. Oh my god. So then, I get my period in Vietnam.

• 10:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god.

• 10:23Hannah Berner?

  Asma does. Get my period.

• 10:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, of course.

• 10:26Hannah Berner?

  And then I realized, like, that I was a toto. There was like a fancy, um, toilet. So I've actually never really fucked with the bidet. It was the kind of thing that like,

• 10:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 10:38Hannah Berner?

  I've never had a tutorial, but I'm sitting there like, I'm clogged up, I got my period. I'm like, I'm clicking one of these buttons, cuz

• 10:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:46Hannah Berner?

  I need Jesus right now.

• 10:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Shoot something up there. Maybe go the opposite way. See if something wiggles out. See if he gets some motion.

• 10:54Hannah Berner?

  But by the way, it's like scary to be like, I'm sitting here and like water is about to like go right in my perennial.

• 11:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:02Hannah Berner?

  My perennial.

• 11:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I love them.

• 11:04Hannah Berner?

  Well, there's a ranking system like laxatives should have where it's like how strong do you want to be. So I put it in the middle.

• 11:10Paige DeSorbo?

  How warm.

• 11:11Hannah Berner?

  You know, I'm vanilla, so I'm like, I put it up too.

• 11:16Hannah Berner?

  But then...

• 11:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I jack that thing up.

• 11:18Hannah Berner?

  I know you do. Just to feel something.

• 11:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:23Hannah Berner?

  So I put it on and then I didn't know how to turn it off. So I like kept clicking it, but it made it just keep going stronger. And you can't just get off the toilet cuz then it'll spray out of the toilet. So I said, "I'm like, Dez, how do you turn it off?" And then I get ticklish and I'm in like a torture chamber of a bidet. But then I realized there was a stop button.

• 11:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Did your husband run in?

• 11:47Hannah Berner?

  No. No, no, no. He left me for dead.

• 11:49Paige DeSorbo?

  He was like, "She'll figure it out." There's like a key and peel skit somewhere or like it's in a movie. Like, they go in to help someone with a bidet. I need to like find it because it's so funny and so pertinent to this.

• 12:02Hannah Berner?

  It's not obvious how it works. There's a lot of buttons.

• 12:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:08Hannah Berner?

  And like...

• 12:08Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a lot of buttons.

• 12:09Hannah Berner?

  I don't go on YouTube cuz I'm a girl. Like, for tutorials.

• 12:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 12:14Hannah Berner?

  Which I should, but like...

• 12:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Speaking of YouTube, have you seen like all that stuff from like the, some podcasts, but it's like YouTube?

• 12:21Hannah Berner?

  The H3 Podcast? Yeah.

• 12:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, I like don't know. I never knew those people till now.

• 12:28Hannah Berner?

  That's the Trisha Paytas people. They're all like connected. And it's funny cuz Trisha Paytas didn't know who we were.

• 12:35Paige DeSorbo?

  She didn't know who we were.

• 12:37Hannah Berner?

  Well, she like, didn't she comment about Giggly Squad?

• 12:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know, but I, I know her from Tana Mongeau. I feel like...

• 12:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, shout out Tana, our number one giggler on the planet, who's going hard this Halloween.

• 12:52Paige DeSorbo?

  And I thought they, I was like, "Wait, this is a podcast? How would I not know that this is a really big podcast?" But I think of them as streamers, like YouTube. I feel like people are listening to it on YouTube.

• 13:04Hannah Berner?

  I think they do stream. Somehow like it never crossed our desk.

• 13:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't believe that guy found one person to fuck him, let alone two. I mean, I was gobsmacked. I go, "This man cheated on, like, with who?"

• 13:19Paige DeSorbo?

  That's the thing about men. I'm like, every time I wanna count them out, they do something and I'm like, wow. That was really crazy. I doubt you've been keeping up with Love is Blind because you're, you don't have a VPN and, yeah, what are you doing?

• 13:35Hannah Berner?

  So, I was getting annoyed that everyone was talking shit about my Michaela and Rob. And I said, "Let them be cute. Like, you guys are being haters. Let love, love."

• 13:45Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was rooting for him.

• 13:47Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm. I was rooting for him, but that's a problem with these guys is that they could go either way. Cuz they're dumb, right? So you're like, he's either dumb cute or dumb evil. And that's two types of men.

• 13:59Paige DeSorbo?

  And I real, and you wanna know what I think is making me mad about it? Is because he tricked me. And I hate, yes, I hate getting tricked.

• 14:11Hannah Berner?

  He did not trick me. I liked their chemistry cuz I love a funny girl and I felt like they both made each other laugh. So that's my, like,

• 14:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 14:20Hannah Berner?

  love language. I'm like, "They're making each other laugh. They're perfect."

• 14:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:23Hannah Berner?

  But when a guy constantly says, "Oh, I'm a lot. Oh, yeah, thanks for putting up with me." It's constantly, like, he's telling you who he is. Cuz I definitely dated, or there's the opposite of the spectrum, which is arguably worse, when they're like, "I'm such a good guy."

• 14:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a really good guy.

• 14:42Hannah Berner?

  I'm such a good guy.

• 14:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm really nice. I really, I think, I take offense to being mean to people. I don't like that. I'm really nice.

• 14:50Hannah Berner?

  Oh, got, meet a guy who doesn't define who he is to you cuz I feel like all those guys are narcissists, the ones that are like, "I'm the kinda guy who..." Shut up. Shut. Uh, I'll decide. I'll decide what kinda guy you are, you motherfucker. Sorry, I just got really annoyed.

• 15:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, no. I, I so agree. Okay, keep going.

• 15:12Hannah Berner?

  Do you know, wanna know something that's crazy? I didn't watch Love is Blind, but everyone's playing the clip of like him getting to lunch or dinner with like all his boys.

• 15:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. It was really upsetting.

• 15:24Hannah Berner?

  Okay, one of the guys at that table I matched with on Hinge and talked to for like two, two months or something. I never met up with them.

• 15:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Which one, Hannah?

• 15:35Hannah Berner?

  His name's like, his name's like Steve. He was like a former football player. He's like really big.

• 15:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I'm pretty sure they were all named Steve, so I'd, I have to go back and look.

• 15:46Hannah Berner?

  He's the one that, like, they just posted a clip. I'm like, "That's the guy." You know those people you've matched on apps and never connected with?

• 15:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Not the guy with the crazy, like, chin strap facial hair that was like being insane.

• 15:58Hannah Berner?

  Go to Bannet.

• 15:59Paige DeSorbo?

  The insane one? Not the insane one.

• 16:03Hannah Berner?

  Never met up with him.

• 16:04Paige DeSorbo?

  This is actually so us. This is like boots-on-the-ground journalism and we're like, "I actually don't know."

• 16:10Hannah Berner?

  And also, he's like from Jersey, so he like came up on my Hinge and he was a big football guy, so I was like, "Yeah."

• 16:16Paige DeSorbo?

  They'll get ya, let me tell ya. They will literally get ya.

• 16:21Hannah Berner?

  But now I'm trying to think if I did meet up with, like, guys, Hinge is a blur for me. Like, I don't know who, he's in my phone, I checked, but there's no text messages.

• 16:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, here's one thing I wanna say.

• 16:34Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 16:34Paige DeSorbo?

  In Rob's defense,

• 16:37Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 16:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I unders, wait, wait, hear me out. Hold on, there's that kitty hair in my mouth. In Rob's defense, I understand his skepticism on going on a reality TV show and being nervous, like, what if they edit this crazy? What if like I get canceled? I understand that. But he inadvertently canceled himself. And here's something I'm gonna say that is like really, really polarizing. And look, I think drinking problems come in all shapes and sizes. I don't think necessarily a drinking problem is you wake up every day and you have to slam a shot of vodka.

• 17:16Paige DeSorbo?

  If you are with someone who has a drinking problem, and a drinking problem to me is your relationships change when you get drunk.

• 17:26Hannah Berner?

  Ooh.

• 17:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, your relationships with all people change when you have a drink.

• 17:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 17:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I had, I had to have someone literally take me by the shoulders and say, "You will never be able to help someone with a drinking problem if they don't help themselves. You need to go." And it's so true.

• 17:45Hannah Berner?

  Wait, did I tell you that? Was that me?

• 17:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you were one of a couple.

• 17:50Hannah Berner?

  I go, "Was that 50 people in your life?" Cuz I know I was one of them. I remember.

• 17:58Hannah Berner?

  She goes, "I had a wise person."

• 18:01Paige DeSorbo?

  You sat me down, you go, "Let's talk about addiction." I go, "You've never been addicted to anything." You go, "Exactly." Let's talk about...

• 18:08Hannah Berner?

  And I tried to keep it far away from me. That's why I don't smoke cigarettes, cuz in a past life, I was definitely an addict.

• 18:16Paige DeSorbo?

  And Rob has a, has a drinking problem because...

• 18:20Hannah Berner?

  Is that what they realized this episode?

• 18:22Paige DeSorbo?

  It's what I realized.

• 18:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, "You, you have a crazy drinking problem. Like, you need to figure it out." And also, all of these men, I'm like, "Look, Rob, okay, totally understand. Like, his dad passed away and that's so sad and, and I can understand that." But Michaela was so easygoing. She was so like, totally, I like, I wanna help you or like, I'm like, I'm in your corner. And then she got to a point where she, she was like, "You're embarrassing me publicly and now you're a reflection of who I am." And, honey, if I had a nickel of every time I've been like, "And you're an extension of me and now people think I'm a fucking nut job."

• 19:06Paige DeSorbo?

  She did exactly what she needed to do and I'm so proud that like in that moment, she went in the bathroom with her girlfriends and was like, "I'm not marrying him. I'm actually never seeing him again."

• 19:15Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say, your gut and her gut in that moment was like, "Get out." And she could have suppressed it. She could have been like, "There's so many reasons why I should give this another chance." But the fact she did that, I'm so proud of her.

• 19:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I'm on a show. Like, let me ju, he got nervous. Yeah, there were so many excuses she could have made and she didn't.

• 19:32Hannah Berner?

  But also, this man is 38. This isn't a 24-year-old kid that's like

• 19:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 19:39Hannah Berner?

  going through a, a rough patch.

• 19:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 19:42Hannah Berner?

  And also, it's like, these are his friends. I didn't watch it, but I saw, but I love talking about it. Like, I watched it. I'm like his friends.

• 19:49Paige DeSorbo?

  You have strong opinions.

• 19:50Hannah Berner?

  But I did see a clip where he was like, "I've never been aggressive with you, right?" And she said the most iconic thing back. She was like, "No." And he's like, "So I've never been aggressive?" And she's like, "Yeah, except this moment right now."

• 20:05Hannah Berner?

  She's like, you mean, what you're doing, you're asking me if you are what you are right now? I'm so confused. Wow, I'm like hyped up. I haven't fought with a man in years.

• 20:15Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm so mad. I have so many, I have a list of things that pissed me off in the past 24 hours.

• 20:20Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna say, I haven't fought with a drunk man in years. And let me tell you, I was, I was unprepared for it. You remember everything they said when they're drunk. And then

• 20:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 20:30Hannah Berner?

  You're like, you're a horrific human. And then in the morning, they're like, baby.

• 20:36Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, I didn't mean, everyone was being mean to me. I'm like, you're a psychopath, like a true, true psychopath.

• 20:43Hannah Berner?

  Not to brag, my husband's sober. And I have some, like, younger friends who were like, is that okay? Like, what's it like? Like, I'm so scared to be the sober guy. And I'm like, you never fight drunkingly? You never hungover with him? Like, it's beautiful and peaceful. And you guys, like, he reads.

• 21:04Paige DeSorbo?

  When you don't have to worry about your boyfriend's character changing in different environments, that's your husband.

• 21:11Hannah Berner?

  But I would also argue, like, their character when they're drunk is, is part of who they are. It's not this, like, made up, imaginary being. Like, that's fully who they are. A lot of the times, it's stuff they're suppressing.

• 21:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Just on like a ground-based level, who the fuck wants to hang out with like an annoying, angry drunk person? Like, that's not the point. Like, I could literally just call my dad sober.

• 21:36Hannah Berner?

  If I want to do that, I'd go back on reality TV, okay?

• 21:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, if you're a bad drunk and we're in our 30s, get the fuck away from me. You're a loser. You never figured it out. And like, you're not fun. This is not fun. I want to drink and have a kiki, have a laugh.

• 21:53Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's the thing. The joke is like, in your 20s, you're still like the fun guy. Like, he was definitely the fun guy in college. And then in your 30s, it starts getting sad.

• 22:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, I low-key think he thinks that he was hot.

• 22:08Hannah Berner?

  Well, he told everyone he looks like Travis Kelsey, which is not true.

• 22:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I think that he low-key thought he was like bigger than the program in terms of the women.

• 22:18Hannah Berner?

  But he decided to like not pick the girl who said she dated athletes, because I think he's insecure that he's not an athlete.

• 22:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, he's just like a big guy. Wait, you want to know what the real telltale sign was? When she, when Michaela was laying in bed with him and they were like laughing about something? And she said something like, what do you think, big guy? And he got offended. He was like, and I was like, okay, you're a fucking loser. I was like, that is the moment that I was like, break up with him, actually. He like sucks. He can't take a joke.

• 22:47Hannah Berner?

  And people will be like, what's the stupidest, littlest thing that gave you the ick? No, icks are, are warn, they're whispers. They're warning whispers that

• 22:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:56Hannah Berner?

  You gotta listen to.

• 22:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Love that. Warning whispers?

• 22:59Hannah Berner?

  I don't know where that came from. I think it was Oprah, actually. Oprah talked about whispers, how you have to listen to the whispers. But, um, anyway, I digress.

• 23:10Paige DeSorbo?

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• 24:37Paige DeSorbo?

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• 25:19Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Can we do like a list of things that have pissed me off in like the past 48 hours?

• 27:28Hannah Berner?

  I feel like you woke up at 5 a.m. and texted me just so you could tell me all the things that pissed you off.

• 27:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, yeah.

• 27:35Hannah Berner?

  Let's go, baby.

• 27:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I was on TikTok and I was like, this is pissing me off.

• 27:39Hannah Berner?

  Buckle up.

• 27:40Paige DeSorbo?

  This is pissing me off. And should I record the pod right now? Wait, one last thing on Love is Blind. Um, hey, guys. I know that we were on reality TV, too, and like, maybe sometimes we didn't like do our nails, or like our hair wasn't brushed, whatever. When you're on Love is Blind, you're literally on there for one season. Maybe clean your kitchen before we come in. Before we come in and you do a tour, I'm gonna need you to fold the clothes on your bed. Like, no, I actually have no tolerance for it. Like, what are you talking about?

• 28:11Hannah Berner?

  When they left, they were in a rush, but you could text someone to be like, hey, can you like, put my clothes away? The cameras are coming.

• 28:18Paige DeSorbo?

  In a rush? You're potentially going away for weeks. You didn't like run the dishwasher? Like, I have no tolerance.

• 28:25Hannah Berner?

  Or maybe a producer was like, it'll be cute if you're like the messy one. Like, you're the creative.

• 28:31Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's disgusting. You're in your 30s. Like, all the women are just so normal. I think that's what the frustrating part about it is. It's like, all the women are just like being normal and like living their lives. And all the men are like, isn't this normal? And you're like, no, this is not. Like, you're scaring everyone, including the cameraman.

• 28:51Hannah Berner?

  It's giving room raiders. They need to take out a blue light, a black light, for just stains.

• 28:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna start small.

• 28:59Hannah Berner?

  Okay, okay, start, yeah, build it up.

• 29:02Paige DeSorbo?

  The first thing that pissed me off is people were coming for Paris Hilton because she dressed as Belle for Beauty and the Beast. And her daughter was dressed as Chip, which is the little cup, which in the movie is the child.

• 29:14Hannah Berner?

  Adorable.

• 29:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And people were like, how could Paris Hilton be Belle while she made her daughter be Chip? Because she's Paris Hilton. What the fuck are you talking about? So that really pissed me off.

• 29:27Hannah Berner?

  Also, what if the daughter like wanted to be Chip? Like, you don't know that.

• 29:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Paris Hilton commented and goes, Chip is my daughter's favorite character. She wanted to be Chip. Like, end of story, case closed, enough.

• 29:39Hannah Berner?

  Paris Hilton should be, um, treated like

• 29:42Paige DeSorbo?

  A real-life princess.

• 29:43Hannah Berner?

  Protected species. She invented the selfie, leave her alone. Also, she does really great work for ADHD.

• 29:50Paige DeSorbo?

  And she's never aged a day in her life.

• 29:52Hannah Berner?

  And Belle loves to read.

• 29:54Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know that in her basement, she has like a full spa.

• 29:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, she's Paris Hilton. Also, she inspired Giggly Squad.

• 30:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Leave her alone, did she?

• 30:03Hannah Berner?

  Yes, with, um, Paris and Nicole.

• 30:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're forever inspired. Okay, the next thing that's really pissing me off.

• 30:12Hannah Berner?

  Vanessa.

• 30:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Jennifer Lawrence started a haircare company. If I hear one more person make a video saying Jennifer Lawrence is doing a cash grab for her haircare company, I'm actually gonna blow up TikTok.

• 30:29Paige DeSorbo?

  It's Jennifer Lawrence. She can do whatever the fuck she wants. And also, how come every time a woman starts a business, it's like, not a real business, not real, nope, she's actually, oh my god, does she need money? Or maybe she's just very interested in it and can sell a product.

• 30:48Hannah Berner?

  When women aren't starting businesses, they're just talking in front of the camera, and that makes Pete Davidson mad. And then we try to be athletic, and Gillis gets mad. And then we try to start a business, everyone's mad. So what are we supposed to do?

• 31:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, Birdie posted the other, and I know I said I was gonna stay out of the comments, and I really am. Birdie posted a thing the other day saying, like, are men the new, uh, like, skincare? Like, because all these men, like Seth Rogen was in a Sephora thing.

• 31:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 31:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And I commented, and like, someone needs to tell Pete Davidson. Cause like, he could be getting his back, he doesn't even know it. All he has to do is do one get ready with me.

• 31:28Hannah Berner?

  I just say, there is something that kinda irks me. I guess Sephora is trying to promote, like,

• 31:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Honey, I'm livid about it.

• 31:35Hannah Berner?

  Boyfriends trying, like, buying stuff. You're taking our jobs. Like, why are men promoting skincare for women? Like, I, I just, Seth also doesn't need the money either. Like, give it to a nice influencer girl who's hustling every day. Seth Rogen is busy with the studio. You're taking our jobs.

• 31:54Paige DeSorbo?

  You're taking our jobs.

• 31:56Hannah Berner?

  Go back to where you came from.

• 31:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Now, listen, a gay man who, like, wears makeup, yes, honey.

• 32:03Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 32:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Come into Sephora with me. Yep. Get your stuff, go buy your things, color match.

• 32:08Hannah Berner?

  If Bowen's into makeup, yes, he's been, oh, marry. Like, he needs to get a full face.

• 32:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Do it, because they enjoy our femininity.

• 32:16Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 32:17Paige DeSorbo?

  A straight man selling me any type of makeup product? I'm not even mad at the straight man, because like, hey, if you get a call and someone wants to give you a fat check, who am I to say, don't take it?

• 32:29Hannah Berner?

  But then don't talk shit on influencers, ever.

• 32:32Paige DeSorbo?

  But the establishment who's hiring them, I'm looking at you sideways, cause what?

• 32:39Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say, Elf hired Matt Rife, and immediately the internet got really mad.

• 32:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Because what the fuck does he know about a grip primer?

• 32:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly, does he even know what a fucking primer? Okay, actually, maybe.

• 32:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And I digress, I take that back.

• 32:58Hannah Berner?

  You never know what people do. To stay beautiful.

• 33:02Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you truly never know what's going on in someone's home. I can attest to that. You don't know what's going on in someone's home.

• 33:09Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't. You never will. You truly never will. Okay, and my last thing, this is my last thing.

• 33:16Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 33:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard?

• 33:19Hannah Berner?

  I actually did not see the clips. All I see is people really mad at Kristen. Is it Kristen or Kirsten? Kristen.

• 33:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Kristen, who I, I'm a Veronica Mars stan.

• 33:32Hannah Berner?

  Stop getting mad at the women. What did she do? Cause she didn't break up with him? Like, leave Kristen alone.

• 33:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Leave Kristen alone. So she was on a pod with them, and she said that she knows that Dax is flirting with her when they're out to a restaurant, and he compliments the waitress, and says, oh, you have really nice eyes, or whatever. And she said she takes that as flirting, because she's turned on by his kindness.

• 34:01Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I saw that, cause he's making someone else feel good.

• 34:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually kind of believe that she thinks that, because I do see her as like, a very lovely angel. Like, I could see someone being nice, and her being like, that's so nice, that you were nice to that person.

• 34:22Hannah Berner?

  She likes that he's in a good mood?

• 34:25Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she's saying that, like, she likes being with someone who's kind to strangers.

• 34:31Hannah Berner?

  You know, there's a lot of factors in this scenario that she said. Like, for example,

• 34:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 34:37Hannah Berner?

  Is the girl he's complimenting hideous?

• 34:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's why we need it.

• 34:41Hannah Berner?

  Cause that's important.

• 34:42Paige DeSorbo?

  That's important.

• 34:43Hannah Berner?

  And my husband is like, you have the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen. Then I'm like, my husband.

• 34:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause I'm like, why would you do that?

• 34:54Hannah Berner?

  No, then I'm like, my husband is like charitable. Like, he's like, giving back to the community. If she's some, like, hot girl, and my husband's like, hold on, let me make this girl feel, I'm like, that's so fucking weird.

• 35:08Paige DeSorbo?

  When Jo, Jo and I, like, first started dating, we were like, walking in the park, and he like, saw a dog that he liked, and he said to the owner, which was a super hot girl, what kind of dog is that? And she was like, oh, it's, oh, it's like a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we walked away, and I, I looked at him, and I was like, don't you ever fucking do that in front of me. I'll chop your balls off, right here. Who gives a fuck what kind of dog that is?

• 35:39Hannah Berner?

  See, we're different. Where I, you actually enjoy being like, a little jealous. I like to play jealous. Like, on the plane today, Dez was talking to like, she was probably like, she's an older, older wom- woman. Um, oh, I might be so scared to say that.

• 35:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, okay, whoa, did she have three heads? What the fuck's going on?

• 36:03Hannah Berner?

  He was speaking Mandarin with her, like, obviously, and like, laughing, kikiing. I have no idea what they're saying. So when he came back.

• 36:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Assess the situation.

• 36:11Hannah Berner?

  When he came back, sat down, I was like, someone had a little fun with the stewardess? Are you allowed to say, what do they, what do they, I always say stewardess?

• 36:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Flight attendant, Hannah.

• 36:22Hannah Berner?

  I think stewardess is cunt.

• 36:24Paige DeSorbo?

  It is cunt, but I think they were like, someone said no, and then it was like.

• 36:28Hannah Berner?

  Like, stewardess sounds regal as fuck.

• 36:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know what it is? Cause we love Stewart's name. Stewart.

• 36:34Hannah Berner?

  Oh, Stewart, shout out Stewart, um, who has a podcast, everyone listen to it, um, Stewart Says. So, yeah, I was like, did you have fun? You had a lot of fun back there? And he's like, oh, and I'm like, no, go spend forty minutes talking to her. Like, you're not interested, that's crazy. So I have fun fake fighting with it.

• 36:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm serious.

• 36:55Hannah Berner?

  Dez is speaking Mandarin and charming the fuck out of every woman in Hong Kong right now. But like, I do like it, cause I'm like, that's my man. Oh,

• 37:06Hannah Berner?

  okay, we have a Daphne cameo.

• 37:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Kitty's actually like, and he's saying what to who?

• 37:11Hannah Berner?

  Kitty, Kitty's like, I need to get involved. Kitty, I love your Fancy Feast campaign.

• 37:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And she's gone.

• 37:18Hannah Berner?

  And she's almost gone. Okay, so Dez is being so cute in that he's letting me go to every cat cafe that I found.

• 37:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I know, because the two times I've text you, you've been like, sorry, just leaving a cat cafe.

• 37:32Hannah Berner?

  So, yes, I went to Cat Cafe in Singapore, then I found one.

• 37:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, wait, you didn't even laugh at my text message when I was incessantly texting you a ton of gossips, and then I screenshotted your location? And I was like, the shit my friend is doing when I'm actively getting ghosted. Like, where you were was a made up, I'm like, what?

• 37:52Hannah Berner?

  I was in Hanoi, Vietnam. It was so, we were dying laughing. I didn't respond, cause you were asleep, anyway. Um, but, in Vietnam, oh, you guys, okay. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta share. So in Vietnam, I go on my own journey. Now, there's nothing quite flow state, like, when you are walking to find a vintage shop, and you know you have like, just ten minutes straight to this vintage shop. Like, I truly go ethereal. Like, nothing in the world matters, it's just me and going to buy things that I don't need. Um, I might not buy anything, cause I might get overstimulated when I get there.

• 38:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 38:36Hannah Berner?

  By the way, in Vietnam, there's a lot of places where there's no crosswalks, and it's just cars and motorcycles and people walking. Now, the way Dez describes it, is that in Asia, it is, there is a flow.

• 38:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 38:56Hannah Berner?

  He's like, cause there's no rules. And so, it's not like, okay, now everyone stops, you walk. You just have to go.

• 39:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 39:05Hannah Berner?

  You just have to walk. And he's like, when you look at it, everyone's actually flowing within each other, but from afar, it looks like complete chaos. And people are honking and yelling. So like, I, I'm like, I'm gonna go. And there's also no sidewalk, you have to walk in the street.

• 39:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah.

• 39:21Hannah Berner?

  So I'm walking in the street, in the middle of Vietnam, alone, trying to find a thrift shop. And I actually start getting dizzy, and I realize it's, it's cause, one, I was dehydrated, two, because my cortisol levels were so high, cause I was like, actively trying to not get hit by like, four different moving vehicles.

• 39:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, Hannah, this is how people die.

• 39:42Hannah Berner?

  But then I locked in. Then I was like, I hit the flow, and it's like, you just walk, you can't get defensive, you just walk. Um, and I find a cat cafe, but in Vietnam, it's very chill. Like, you know, most cat cafes, it's like, you gotta check in, and like, pay money to enter, and then you like, take your shoes off, and then you like,

• 39:59Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, whatever, take one, we don't care.

• 40:01Hannah Berner?

  Come in, it's a bookstore, with cats just like, lying on people's books.

• 40:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Reading, just cats like, reading?

• 40:08Hannah Berner?

  Cats are reading, cats are like, welcome to my store. Um, literally going through novels.

• 40:16Paige DeSorbo?

  In my head, cats, like, can talk, they choose not to, and like, they could run the world, but they're like, we're actually not gonna. But like, deep down, I really think that they are aliens.

• 40:27Hannah Berner?

  But I actually feel like how a man walks into a brothel at these cat cafes. And I checked this out, I said, okay, that's a pretty one over there. Okay, that's a little, like, a little bun on that one over there. And then it's like, I get my drink, and then I'm like, who wants a little pet from mama?

• 40:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Tabby?

• 40:47Hannah Berner?

  But it's funny, I go up to one, I try to pet it, and it's like, not that into me, and I'm like, no problem. And I go to the next one, I try to pet it. So, this last one, I just got to Hong Kong, found a cat cafe, Dez let me go.

• 41:03Hannah Berner?

  Page. They have different outfits on, cause it's Halloween, so they have all these cute outfits. I took photos, but then some of them have like, a bandana on them, and I'm like, what's the bandana say? And it says, on diet. So all the fat ones have little bandanas that say, on a diet, which I think means, like, you can't just give them snacks.

• 41:24Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 41:25Hannah Berner?

  And they're the cutest, chubbyest kids. Imagine as a human, when you're in a diet, you have to wear a bandana that says, on diet, do not give food. Do not feed.

• 41:36Paige DeSorbo?

  If you live in my mom's house, you know.

• 41:41Paige DeSorbo?

  If you live with my mom and you're gaining weight, everyone will know.

• 41:48Hannah Berner?

  She puts, she puts a bidet on you and it's bright red, by the way.

• 41:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, but she's actually on a diet, a little bit of a diet right now.

• 41:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, no, I'm not. She goes, you're not?

• 41:59Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you didn't know you are?

• 42:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, what?

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• 43:32Paige DeSorbo?

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• 44:17Paige DeSorbo?

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• 44:37Hannah Berner?

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• 45:20Hannah Berner?

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• 45:31Paige DeSorbo?

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• 46:17Paige DeSorbo?

  So cutting out coffee is just not an option for me when it comes to whitening my teeth. And a good smile is kind of like a great outfit. You don't always know why someone looks put together, you just know that they do. I love that Colgate Optic White Pro Series Toothpaste works on those everyday stains while still being enamel-safe for daily use. It's proof that daily routine can be remarkable. That's the science of wow. Colgate Optic White.

• 46:46Hannah Berner?

  We went on a actual street food tour, like you hire someone, like a Vietnam local. Her name was Junie.

• 46:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that.

• 46:55Hannah Berner?

  Shout out Junie. She's so iconic, Junie. And she's this little, tiny woman, walking middle of the road and there's just chaos around her. And we're just like, okay, I guess we follow her. She turns into like the back of some store, into someone's apartment, into the back. And there's just like these little tables. By the way, Dez is like 6'4". And like trying to sit in these little tables, loving it. But he can't speak Vietnamese, so he's like, no use to me. But anyway.

• 47:24Paige DeSorbo?

  He can't speak Vietnamese? What an idiot!

• 47:27Hannah Berner?

  No, he's like, it's stupid.

• 47:29Paige DeSorbo?

  My god.

• 47:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, read a fucking book. Like, get one culture. So he, there's like a lady holding a baby, holding dumplings, throws us some dumplings. I'm a foodie. Let's just say it. Is that annoying? Is that annoying that I'm a, I'm a foodie?

• 47:44Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, like, we all have thought this.

• 47:47Hannah Berner?

  What I would say, the best food.

• 47:49Paige DeSorbo?

  You eat everything.

• 47:51Hannah Berner?

  By the way.

• 47:53Paige DeSorbo?

  We know.

• 47:54Hannah Berner?

  All the food I'm about to list is still in me right now. Like, it hasn't come out. So just like, imagine the layers.

• 48:04Hannah Berner?

  So first.

• 48:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's start at breakfast.

• 48:08Hannah Berner?

  Coconut coffee, okay? Coconut coffee in Hanoi is basically a frappuccino, so it's frozen. Coke, the greatest thing I've ever had, highly recommend. Then they have duck, like, just like fried duck with like herbs. So you could have the same meal every single.

• 48:29Paige DeSorbo?

  For every meal?

• 48:30Hannah Berner?

  Meal if you want. So we had these little pieces of duck. And then they have fresh herbs always on the table. And you take the basil and you eat it dry with the duck. It was, the acidity against the fatness of the duck was truly remarkable. Bobby Clay is gonna love this segment. Okay, oh, then, okay, have you ever had banh mi?

• 48:51Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 48:52Hannah Berner?

  So it's...

• 48:55Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I'm, you're such an uncultured swine. I don't even know how to talk to you right now. You've never had banh mi? Crazy. Okay, where do we even begin?

• 49:05Paige DeSorbo?

  So I've never even heard of it.

• 49:07Hannah Berner?

  What was it about, honey? So Vietnam was, there was, the French colonized them.

• 49:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, now we're.

• 49:17Hannah Berner?

  Spends three days with Dez, a full history lesson. But because they have French influences, it's like Asian cuisine, but then with baguettes. So a banh mi is a baguette, but like, not too thick. And then they put, like, you could put any meat in it, but I love it with the pate. They did a prosciutto pate, duck pate, with, then it has like cucumber and lettuce and stuff.

• 49:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I did not take you as a pate, girl.

• 49:47Hannah Berner?

  Wait, pate? That's that thick, mm, girl. She is.

• 49:52Paige DeSorbo?

  You're running around eating pate?

• 49:54Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 49:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't know that.

• 49:56Hannah Berner?

  Wait, is that good or bad?

• 49:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Good.

• 49:59Hannah Berner?

  Okay, good.

• 50:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, am I confusing?

• 50:02Hannah Berner?

  I think it's like chopped liver. I think it's ground up liver.

• 50:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm confusing pate with foie gras.

• 50:09Hannah Berner?

  I think it's the same thing.

• 50:10Paige DeSorbo?

  But isn't that also a pate?

• 50:11Hannah Berner?

  I think foie gras, I don't think it's foie gras.

• 50:15Paige DeSorbo?

  What is it?

• 50:17Hannah Berner?

  Is it, oh, foie gras?

• 50:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Isn't that a pate?

• 50:21Hannah Berner?

  That's pate if it was gay.

• 50:27Paige DeSorbo?

  That's Pate if it was in a musical.

• 50:29Hannah Berner?

  If it's a musical theater. That's Pate if it knew it was better than you and it went to a nice liberal arts school. Um, okay, then they had this like beef lettuce and noodles together. That was great. Obviously fa.

• 50:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Amazing.

• 50:43Hannah Berner?

  But then this was their crazy dessert. It's called jelly bean, but they take sweet soy milk.

• 50:51Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, it's crazy. Okay, yes, sweet soy.

• 50:55Hannah Berner?

  It's sweet soy milk and then tofu, but like flavorless tofu, but it like takes on the sweetness of the soy milk.

• 51:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 51:03Hannah Berner?

  Just red beans. Cause if you think about it, beans are inherently sweet. Like, you know, like in barbecue, like the beans. So if you just have beans with soy milk, it literally is like floating red beans and milk, which.

• 51:17Paige DeSorbo?

  What are you talking about? Barbecue beans?

• 51:20Hannah Berner?

  Is sweet.

• 51:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Laced? Yeah, but laced with so much sugar. Like if you went to, if you go to one backyard barbecue and you have baked beans, it's so unhealthy. But like a bean on its own, I feel like has no taste.

• 51:35Hannah Berner?

  Well, actually you're right. It's no taste, but it's like tofu where it can be sweetened.

• 51:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Like it takes on the milk.

• 51:41Hannah Berner?

  Yes. So it was like this sweet bean texture. It was crazy. I was feeling wild.

• 51:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And you eat the beans individually or it's like mashed?

• 51:51Hannah Berner?

  Individually. Like they just put it, it's like floating beans. It's like cereal of beans. Bean cereal.

• 51:57Paige DeSorbo?

  No wonder you can't take a shit. Okay? Are you kidding me?

• 52:03Hannah Berner?

  It's crazy. I can't take a shit after that. Also I had eight prunes today. Like that should be illegal.

• 52:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:09Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, that was Vietnam and we're about to go to dinner.

• 52:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so anyway, that was breakfast.

• 52:16Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, that was my snack. That's like Amy Schumer in Trainwreck when she's like, I'm so hungry. All I've had is, are you okay?

• 52:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, in my head, when you said, when you said you got dizzy, I go, well, surely you weren't hungry and famished. You must not have had any water.

• 52:37Hannah Berner?

  I've ever been famished in my life. The second I get slightly hungry, I like need to eat. Yeah, I need to eat something.

• 52:44Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, that's so funny. I actually don't think I've ever heard you be like,

• 52:50Paige DeSorbo?

  no, I'm starving. We have to get like, we need to eat.

• 52:54Hannah Berner?

  Because that gets dealt with immediately and I don't make it everyone's problem. Like I will leave the event if there's not food. Also I have snacks.

• 53:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Like in your bag?

• 53:06Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I always have a bar.

• 53:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you ever go shopping? Did you ever go to like the vintage store?

• 53:10Hannah Berner?

  Oh, so I did go to these really cool vintage stores, but it's crazy cause you get there and it's like, you have to go in all these staircases where it really looks like you're walking to.

• 53:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you don't like that.

• 53:22Hannah Berner?

  You don't know where it is, but I do like it. It's just like, I'm bad at directions anyway. So it's a miracle. Every time I found these stores that are like, the address is in a different language and it's on the third floor of a building that you can't see. So, um, I did get turned around a couple of times, but one thing about me that we're gonna, we can learn from this experience and I'm pulling it up because I might have note.

• 53:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 53:43Hannah Berner?

  Going on a street food tour after almost dying proves that I am resilient. And if it's one.

• 53:52Paige DeSorbo?

  You wrote this down?

• 53:52Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 53:55Hannah Berner?

  Okay, go.

• 53:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Support your friends, keep going.

• 53:59Hannah Berner?

  Thing about me, I am resilient and that is what you should want to be in this life. Not cool, not funny, not beautiful, but was being able to deal with hard things and coming back stronger.

• 54:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you ever seen the movie 21 Jump Street with Channing Tatum?

• 54:18Hannah Berner?

  I've never seen it, but I know the vibes, if that makes sense.

• 54:22Paige DeSorbo?

  You love Channing Tatum. How have you never seen one of his number one comedy roles? Do yourself a favor, download that for the plane ride home.

• 54:30Hannah Berner?

  Well, actually after I saw She's The Man, I knew that his work was only going to go downhill from there. Cause that was his prime.

• 54:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Twenty, he's very good in 21 Jump Street.

• 54:40Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. What a time.

• 54:42Paige DeSorbo?

  What a time. What the 2000s.

• 54:44Hannah Berner?

  Also, that's a great example of when men used to be hot. Continue.

• 54:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you. Thank you.

• 54:51Hannah Berner?

  It's called, there's no studs anymore.

• 54:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I think that's for lesbians.

• 54:56Hannah Berner?

  No, it's not. A stud.

• 55:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I'm a lesbian TikTok? Nope. I'm a, no. I actually would know.

• 55:06Hannah Berner?

  Are lesbians adopted stud?

• 55:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they're like masked lesbians.

• 55:11Hannah Berner?

  Have you heard of Hey Mama? A Hey Mama lesbian?

• 55:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I have not.

• 55:15Hannah Berner?

  I think that's a type of masked lesbian that's like fuck boy. Like she has like a backwards hat. She's like, hey mama, hey mama.

• 55:22Paige DeSorbo?

  The 21 Jump Street thing I was saying, there's a scene in there where Jonah Hill like does like fake slam poetry and you literally just sounded exactly like him.

• 55:31Hannah Berner?

  I am Jonah Hill and you are Channing Tatum.

• 55:37Hannah Berner?

  Oh, but I have some page bait.

• 55:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Fine. I'm already annoyed this episode.

• 55:41Hannah Berner?

  I know. So I'm leaning in. Hush, I lean in. I am officially the worst packer to ever pack. And I'm not trying to be like, and like other girls, but like it's at a point where I, it needs to be studied. First of all, I only pack dresses. Like I think I want to be Nana. Like growing up, like Nana goes on vacation. She takes all these photos and all these gorgeous different dresses. So I'm like, okay, I'm going on vacation. Let's pack eight dresses that I've never worn.

• 56:09Paige DeSorbo?

  For what? Like to go to dinner?

• 56:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like in my.

• 56:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Those are your night outfits?

• 56:13Hannah Berner?

  In my dreams.

• 56:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:15Hannah Berner?

  That's who I am on vacation.

• 56:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 56:19Hannah Berner?

  I just pack heels. Like I don't check that they match any of the dresses. I just see like a heel that looks kind of comfortable. When I get there, I realize no heel goes with any of the dresses. Also I realized I'm not wearing a dress.

• 56:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 56:36Hannah Berner?

  So, well, also because I was battling really bad bloat and dresses are not good at hiding that. I'd have to be like full pregnant mom.

• 56:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Give me an example. Like what are some dresses? Like, do I know the dresses? Like tight dresses?

• 56:50Hannah Berner?

  I packed like a tight vintage, um, Roberto Cavalli dress. No, like cra- I snake skin, like.

• 57:00Paige DeSorbo?

  What are your day outfits?

• 57:02Hannah Berner?

  So this is the thing. I did pack like jeans. I packed like some simple t-shirts, like I'm trying to be like classic, simple. I've been wearing the same Montauk t-shirt and Daphne pajama pants

• 57:17Hannah Berner?

  every single day.

• 57:21Paige DeSorbo?

  To go out too? Like to go to the cafe?

• 57:24Hannah Berner?

  Yep. This, I've worn, like this is my comfy outfit and I'm staying in it.

• 57:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:29Hannah Berner?

  And by the way, there's a shit ton of stuff in my luggage. Like it's not like I didn't pack. It's just like, this is the only thing I feel, this is the only thing I fit into right now. So that puts me right now.

• 57:39Paige DeSorbo?

  As someone who looks up restaurants, color decor so that my outfit matches the vibes.

• 57:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Like when we go to Italy and my mom books a beach club, I go, what color are the umbrellas? I can't go if I don't know what color the umbrellas are in my bathing suit. It doesn't match. I'll look ridiculous. And they changed them every year. So they got.

• 58:04Hannah Berner?

  It could be some form of, um, what's it called when you think differently than other people?

• 58:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Neurodiverted. You know what it is? You know what, what packing really is? It's just math. You just have to calculate how many days you're going to be there. Figure you need a day outfit and a night outfit. So that's two already for one day. And then you have to bring at least three alternate outfits for in case you're like, who did I think I was when I packed that? I don't want to wear that. I, where's my alternate outfit? Oh, change of plans, alternate outfit.

• 58:40Hannah Berner?

  I do this at home too, where like I put on an outfit and I'm like, this is comfortable. I like it. And then I wear it every day until it's too dirty.

• 58:48Paige DeSorbo?

  You are the type of person that is really like.

• 58:53Hannah Berner?

  Like I want to be Steve Jobs. Like I don't.

• 58:55Paige DeSorbo?

  So much I could say in this moment.

• 58:59Paige DeSorbo?

  You are the type of person who truly is perfect for a uniform. You need to get four outfits that you love and you need to get them in every single color and you need to just rotate that every day. Obviously special events and occasions are different, but like your day to day, day to night, you should be rotating truly five outfits that you love and feel good in.

• 59:21Hannah Berner?

  And like, if I could go to dinner right now in this outfit, I a hundred percent would, but it, it would look bad.

• 59:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Insane.

• 59:28Hannah Berner?

  Insane. So I'm going to change, but putting myself in different outfits stresses me out.

• 59:33Paige DeSorbo?

  You're also the perfect candidate to go shopping at like the Row and buy like an insanely expensive something, but you're going to wear it every single day. Like you're, like if you buy three insanely expensive outfits that you just only wore those, it's actually saving money rather than buying like a ton of random shit that you never end up wearing. You have so many random clothes that you're like, I'm never wearing it, but you bought, but you bought it.

• 1:00:02Hannah Berner?

  I know. Like there, there's a new thing. It's not new at all, but girls on TikTok being like, do you like it or is it just thrifted?

• 1:00:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never felt that. So.

• 1:00:12Hannah Berner?

  Like I'll buy something because I'm like, it's thrift.

• 1:00:14Paige DeSorbo?

  But you thrifted it and you got it on sale.

• 1:00:16Hannah Berner?

  It's on sale. I save money.

• 1:00:18Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I really, I wish I had the time and the just general genestequo to come over and really look at your closet.

• 1:00:28Hannah Berner?

  Maybe one day, maybe we'll do Hannah Page try new things. Paige tries to look at Hannah's closet. Also this whole time, there's been this like light of God coming towards my head. That's driving me insane.

• 1:00:39Paige DeSorbo?

  It's kind of beautiful though.

• 1:00:41Hannah Berner?

  Thanks. Um, anyway, you guys keep sending your Hong Kong recs. Um, no, I haven't, I haven't pooped since the laxative, but keep me in your prayers. And Paige is really sick too. So pray to Anthony, Saint Anthony.

• 1:00:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I genuinely think my fever just broke because I'm sweating and I was so cold.

• 1:01:00Hannah Berner?

  And you did amazing this podcast in spite of that because you're, cause again, you know what you are? What are you? Resilient.

• 1:01:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Resilient.

• 1:01:07Hannah Berner?

  Resilient.

• 1:01:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Resilient. Yeah.

• 1:01:09Hannah Berner?

  Every gig was resilient and you were, you take that with you for the rest of this weekend, girls. Okay. I love you. Stay resilient out there. Talk soon. Bye.

• 1:01:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Bye.

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