Bonus Episode: Uncovering Grift, Country Punks, and RIP Ozzy

This week, Jake looks into some possible malfeasance related to the proceeds of a benefit concert for the victims of the LA fires and shares his thoughts on the passing of the legendary Ozzy Osbourne. Plus, your voicemails and DMs on the most punk country artists. On Tuesday, we're bringing you our episode on Screaming Trees' Mark Lanegan, and Jake wants to know: Which singer/songwriters are deserving of greater recognition? Share your thoughts at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 68 - Gram Parsons https://www.disgracelandpod.com/068/gram-parsons Episodes 108 https://www.disgracelandpod.com/108/sex-pistols-pt-1and 109 https://www.disgracelandpod.com/109/sex-pistols-pt-2 - Sex Pistols Episode 56 - Ozzy Osbourne https://www.disgracelandpod.com/056/ozzy-osbourne Episode 89 - Black Sabbath https://www.disgracelandpod.com/089/black-sabbath To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is exactly right.

• 0:10Jake Brennan?

  Double Elvis.

• 0:13Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

• 0:44Speaker 02

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• 1:15Speaker 03

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• 2:00Speaker 03

  nose, flu or fluke-like symptoms, joint pain, or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extenture. Learn more at extenture.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 2:17Jake Brennan?

  Hey Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand, the after-party.

• 2:43Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the DisgraceLand bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get from one full episode of DisgraceLand to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full-episode subject, Waylon Jennings. We're rewinding back to our two-part Sex Pistols saga, previewing this month's exclusive episode on Alice Cooper, our upcoming new episode on Mark Lanegan, and we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried.

• 3:26Jake Brennan?

  DisgraceLand is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind that you'll end up telling someone else. All right, Discos, let's get into it.

• 3:45Jake Brennan?

  All right, DisgraceLand listeners, lots to talk about in this episode. As you could have probably gleaned from the intro there, we've got a whole bunch of content coming your way in the next seven days. We're in that seven-day spread right now. Two new episodes being released from DisgraceLand this week. Our new episode on Waylon Jennings, which is available everywhere for you to listen to right now, and our exclusive episode on Alice Cooper, which is available to our Apple and Patreon All-Access members. Later in this episode, on that note, in the part that's available only to subscribers, I'll be talking more about Waylon Jennings and giving you a story about Waylon that didn't make it into our episode. Remember that whole Cocaine Bear thing? Remember that movie that came out a couple of years ago? Well, as if Waylon Jennings wasn't crazy enough,

• 4:30Jake Brennan?

  he had a role in that batshit crazy Cocaine Bear story, not the movie, the real story. And I'll give that to you, like I said, in the exclusive section of this here after party coming up in a bit. What I want to talk about here, though, what I want to shine a light on, you know, it's interesting. We spent a good portion of last week's after party talking about sort of what we do here. So kind of resetting the board a little bit and focusing our goal, our mission, what we're trying to do, what we're trying to, how we're trying to entertain ourselves with stories that are, that are for the most part, kept under wraps, unknown, et cetera. And I started thinking, you know, what, what story am I going to give them? I thought about giving you all that Cocaine Bear story here in the beginning, but I'm saving that. And this story, it's music related.

• 5:13Jake Brennan?

  It came to my attention yesterday. I want to talk about this here, okay? I want to shine a light on this story. I want to bring attention to it. It's a little known at the moment as of this recording, but it might be the type of thing that by the time you hear this episode, I'm recording it on Tuesday of this week. You're going to get this episode on Thursday. By the time you hear this, maybe the story will have blown up. I don't know. Maybe the internet will have done its thing, done what it's good at, and that's spreading this story far and wide. Hopefully, and no, I'm not talking about the Coldplay cheating scandal, although I could. That story doesn't quit. Fun fact, I went to high school with a wife involved in that horrific story, but that's not what I want to talk about. I want to talk about this story that my wife brought to my attention yesterday that was so incredible.

• 5:58Jake Brennan?

  I was like, it was one of those things where I was like, that can't be true. And she showed me the video online. It was a news segment, I believe, from a, from a West Coast local news program, and I still didn't believe it. And I spent time this morning researching it. And it's one of those stories where, you know, there's enough credible evidence right now, where I believe the story to be true, but it's still so insane to me that I kind of feel like the wool might be being pulled over my eyes. I, that's not happening. This story is true. I'd be shocked if I got, if I got this wrong. But it's that type of incredible story. So. I don't want this story to be true. Okay, that's the other part of this. So you remember the horrific LA wildfires that took place back in January, 30 people died, about 10,000

• 6:43Jake Brennan?

  homes were destroyed. Of course, you remember this. A lot of us have friends who lost homes or were otherwise directly affected by that tragedy. And then, you know, a couple of weeks after that tragedy, they had this concert that they put on to raise money for the victims of the wildfire. Green Day played, Billie Eilish, Lady Gaga, Red Hot Chili Peppers concert was streamed live on Apple Music, on Netflix, elsewhere as well. That event, that concert, raised $100 million to help the people who were devastated by that fire. Great cause, great, great thing to do. And, you know, one of the things that I love about being an American is when tragedy happens, it just seems that Americans step up, they put their

• 7:25Jake Brennan?

  money where their mouth is, and they help out. And that was definitely in evidence after this concert or during this concert. Again, they raised $100 million. That's a lot of money, donations. Well, it turns out, none of that money, aside from a couple $500 gift cards, that's all I can, I can find here. For the most part, none of that money has gone to the victims yet. Okay, about 75 million of the 100 million raised, it's been paid out. So the concert folks are like, you know, we did our thing, we, and they did do their thing. They gave their money, they sent the money out, okay, but not to the victims. That money went to nonprofits who are supposed to distribute that money

• 8:07Jake Brennan?

  to the victims. Now, here's the sketchy part. Some of these nonprofits, they seem to have nothing to do with aiding victims of natural disaster. And the more you dig in to this story, the more you dig into the process that these nonprofits have to go through to receive this money, the more you're going to realize that the barrier of entry to be considered as, as one of the recipients for, for this bread, it's very low. Some of the reporting I saw said that it was, there was a simple six-question questionnaire that these nonprofits had to answer to qualify for these millions of dollars in some cases. Now, this information is publicly available. You can go find this yourself with very, very

• 8:52Jake Brennan?

  little effort, okay? I don't mean just find somebody talking about it on X or Instagram or whatever. You can, you can actually go to the organization responsible for this and you can, you can find out everything I just told you. It's right there. But you know, you're also probably, before you even get there, you're going to come upon two independent journalists, one of whom has positioned herself as a sort of unintentional victim advocate here. Her name is Sue Pascoe. And basically, she, she was just asked by some of these victims, like, or notified and it was like, hey, I can't, this concert happened, we can't get this money. Well, how do we get this money? What's going on? So she looked into it. And this is all kind of breaking in the last 24 hours. It's making the rounds on various news outlets, what Sue Pascoe here has come up with. And Sue, this woman Sue Pascoe,

• 9:34Jake Brennan?

  she doesn't seem partisan. She doesn't seem political in the slightest. She, she seems to be an honest broker. And again, this information that I'm relaying to you, that she is related to everybody, is out there, is publicly available, okay? The story is this. They raised a hundred million dollars. Seventy-five million of it went to nonprofits. As far as we can tell right now, none of that money has gone to the victims. We haven't found any testimony, public testimony from any of these victims saying that they actually applied for this money and received it. Not as of yet. That might change. By the time you hear this, that might change. But as of yet, it hasn't. And this news has been out there now, again, for more than 24 hours. It's making the rounds. Lots of people have seen an interview with Sue Pascoe making these claims. So you would

• 10:17Jake Brennan?

  think if this money had gotten to where it was supposed to go, that that news would be out there. However, it's not. Okay? Now, the point. We need this story to get out there. This is one of those stories that cannot be suppressed. This is one of those stories that deserves the coverage. It's a very simple way to do this. We need to get the artists from the concert to get involved and demand transparency so that the story gets out there and so that the victims can get their hands on this bread. They can get the relief that they need. The fires were seven months ago. There may be a perfectly logical explanation why this money has not been dispersed, but it does not change the fact that the fires were seven months ago. The concert was nearly seven months ago. These people needed relief more than, I'm guessing, than they do now, I'm sure, but

• 11:02Jake Brennan?

  they still need the relief and they're still looking to get it clearly. And still, according to reports, these victims are coming up with bubkes. So where is the money? Where is the money, Lebowski? Is this story a scandal? I don't know. There may be a perfectly logical explanation. It seems super dubious. Maybe the nonprofits will claim that it takes time to process this money, but if so, that's unacceptable and it needs to be solved. And again, the simple truth is that people were hurt by this tragedy, that people need the money that their fellow Americans donated to them generously. That money should not be sitting idle in the accounts of nonprofits or worse, God forbid, paying the salaries of nonprofit executives. And here's the main point. Again, the musicians here, the rock stars, Flea, Billie Eilish, Lady Gaga, Billy Joe

• 11:46Jake Brennan?

  Armstrong, they need to speak up and demand transparency and force this story, if true, and again, it appears to be that it is true, they need to force this story into the news more fully so that the people can get what they need. Okay? I want to give the organizers of the concert the benefit of the doubt, and I am, and I even want to give the nonprofits the benefit of the doubt, but it doesn't change the fact that the money has not gotten to where it needs to be, and that needs to change. Okay? So this story needs to get out there. And I hope this isn't one big disgrace. I hope that these rock stars can push this issue. You know, maybe if you're tooling around on X, you can tag a couple of them or on Instagram or wherever and you can tell them, you know, where's the money, Lebowski?

• 12:30Jake Brennan?

  Get out there and say something, Billy Joe. Get out there and say something, Lady Gaga. You guys aren't afraid of the microphone. All right, let's get the story out there. Okay. Speaking of stories, let's talk about what other stories we have going on this week. In the exclusive feed this week, we have an episode on Alice Cooper. Matt, let's go ahead and play a clip here so that the DisgraceLand listeners, who are not All-Access members, can hear a little bit about Alice and they can hear what they're missing. Okay, give it all.

• 13:06Jake Brennan?

  The Sunset Strip was living up to its name. It was bathed in pink and orange light as the evening sun sank into the Hollywood hills. The Strip looked beautiful for just a moment, then it plunged into darkness. However, the darkness was far from still and far from silent because the darkness had a voice, a voice that called out to the creatures of the night, the ones who slept in the daytime, staying hidden from the sun. The voice of the night called out to them, it pulled them out of their hiding spots. It demanded they take to the streets to satiate their unquenchable thirst, their thirst for

• 13:48Jake Brennan?

  blood. Because at night, the Sunset Strip was crawling with vampires if he knew where to look. Not long after the sun finally disappeared behind the hills, the vampires stirred. They slunk down the boulevards, staying hidden in the shadows, and they crept through the alleyways, stalking their prey. These vampires would go to the ends of the earth to satisfy their craving, and further, to get their fix, they would travel all the way over the rainbow. All right, guys, that's the Alice Cooper episode being released this week that is part of our exclusive offering to DisgraceLand All-Access members. Five bucks a month gets you that extra episode per month like Alice here, gets you ad-free

• 14:32Jake Brennan?

  listening as well, DisgraceLand and Hollywoodland, completely ad-free, no ads, and it gets you a little more bonus after-party as well. And you're gonna hear me later in the bonus section of this after-party, talking about Waylon Jennings and the Cocaine Bear. All right, also this week, in addition to that new Waylon Jennings episode, And again, that Wayland episode is not exclusive. It's going to be available everywhere. It's available everywhere right now, I should say. But in addition to that, we've got our rewind episodes on the Sex Pistols, parts one and two coming your way. If you want a real take on one of the greatest bands of all time, the real mythology, not the sanitized bunk that Hulu, excuse me, the Chasm, I haven't forgot about Chasm. The Chasm served up a couple of years ago. Then check out these episodes on the Sex Pistols.

• 15:16Jake Brennan?

  Some of Zeth Lundie's best writing, if I do say so. Chasm can't keep us down, man, just can't. All right, so after those Sex Pistols episodes, we've got our Mark Lanegan episode coming your way next Tuesday. Great story in that episode on Mark and Josh Holme from Queens of the Stone Age getting caught up in all kinds of Detroit shakedowns. Listen, when you're chilling out with your headphones on, you get the Mark Lanegan episode playing, you're going to be tempted to think about Matt Dillon, but don't, okay? When you hear the Mark Lanegan episode, you'll know what I'm talking about. Try not to think about Matt Dillon. Instead, be thinking about all the underrated singer songwriters who are out there. We just discussed bands who never lived up to their expectations with the replacements,

• 15:59Jake Brennan?

  but Mark Lanegan, such an underrated singer songwriter. Got me thinking, what other singer songwriters are wildly underrated? That's going to be our question of the week next week. 617-906-6638 to let me know. Call me, send me a text and you may hear yourself, your voice on the next episode of After Party. You might hear me read your text as well. Again, you get a call or you get a text to make that happen. 617-906-6638. Answer the question of the week. Who are some of the most wildly underrated singer songwriters? All right, I will have more recommendations next week, but I want to just quickly say that I finished Chuck Hogan's Gangland. And I already missed Nikki Pins. I want to also just let you know that I can't stop

• 16:44Jake Brennan?

  listening to this song by the Eric Legnini Legnini, Eric Legnini Trio called "Don't Let Me Be Lonely Tonight." And I invite you to find that song and listen to it too. And just, you know, be sad with me, you know, sad in a sophisticated kind of way. Okay? So damn you, Eric Legnini, whoever the hell you are. I can't stop listening to this song. You knocked it out of the park. It's tremendous. If you guys want more recommendations from me, get into the Patreon chat, hit me up there. I'll give you a couple more. Coming up next, the music musicians you want to talk about with your voicemails, texts, DMs, and more.

• 17:32Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

• 18:02Speaker 02

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• 18:33Speaker 03

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• 18:41Speaker 03

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• 19:23Speaker 03

  Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extensure. Learn more at extensure.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 19:41Jake Brennan?

  All right, we're back. Apple Podcast listeners, listen, make sure you got auto downloads turned on so you don't miss any DisgraceLand episodes. Right now, you know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone, 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text for you guys to get in touch with me. Make your voice be heard here on DisgraceLand. Get me the stories you want to hear, the stories you want to tell, the stories you want to talk about, just like this listener in the 612.

• 20:11Speaker 04

  Hey Jake, what's going on? This is Nathan from Minneapolis. Thoroughly enjoyed the Replacements episode. They're like rock gods here in Minneapolis. Just awesome. Also, the Van Halen episodes were amazing. That is my favorite band of all time. But your question was, who is the most punk country artist? I'm gonna have to go with Waylon Jennings. I mean, guy was a badass. Played with Buddy Holly. I mean, the whole coin flip where he wasn't on the plane or crashed. That's, that's, that's a crazy story right there. I got a chance to see Waylon Jennings, Lollapalooza, 1996, Des Moines, Iowa. It was amazing.

• 20:56Speaker 04

  They played with Metallica, Rancid, Psychotica, Soundgarden. I mean, that was an amazing lineup. Absolutely crazy. But, uh...

• 21:08Speaker 05

  Thanks. Podcast is awesome. Rock-a-rola. Thanks, man. Bye.

• 21:15Jake Brennan?

  Rock-a-rola, Nathan. Thanks for calling in. First of all, thanks for your very kind comments about the replacements of Van Halen episodes. But man, Waylon Jennings at Lollapalooza in 96. I vaguely remember that. I don't know. I don't think I don't think I don't think my memory ever would have gotten there if you didn't bring it up. That must have been incredible. I was I went to that Lollapalooza, but I went in Rhode Island in 96. And I don't remember Waylon Jennings. But you know, they had different artists playing at different parts of the country. Thanks for the call. Appreciate you. Nathan, guys, is responding to the question of the week from last week. Which artists, which country artists is the most punk rock? And of course, that comes from our Waylon Jennings episode that is live right now for you to listen

• 21:57Jake Brennan?

  to. Nathan clearly did. Let's check out the 270, see what their answer is to the same question.

• 22:03Speaker 05

  Hey, Jake, 270 Todd. I love all your questions, but I especially love this one. The one about the which country star is the most punk rock. Because after all, what's more punk rock than

• 22:18Speaker 05

  Waylon Jennings, George Jones, or Johnny Cash, or any of these outlaw guys? More gangster, more hardcore than any hip hop artist, or hair metal guy, or whoever you want to name. But anyway, in a close one, I'll probably go with Johnny Cash. Pretty punk rock guy, for his time especially. And I mean, close. You could go with Waylon. It's all interchangeable. One of my favorite rock stars, Mike Ness, Social Distortion, good podcast subject. He was kind of a combo of Johnny Cash and Joe Strummer. Also, honorable mention, maybe it's cheating a little, Graham Parsons.

• 23:01Speaker 05

  Jumpsuits with marijuana leaves. His best friend was Keith Richards. He died in some crazy, dramatic way. Not that that's good. And then the whole Joshua, whatever, the burning of the body out in the desert thing. A pretty punk rock. Anyway, thank you so much for all your content. I look forward to it all the time. See ya.

• 23:23Jake Brennan?

  270 Todd, appreciate you. Lots to get into there. First of all, trying to go backwards. Graham Parsons, the story of Graham Parsons, we, um, we get into that thoroughly in Disgrace Land and in my book. Um, I was just telling my son, my 11 year old about Graham Parsons the other day. I left out some, some choice details, ones that you had here, you know, the whole Kaufman, road mangler, Joshua Tree, burning of the body thing. Uh, social distortion, Mike Ness, love Mike Ness, loved that solo record he put out back in, I believe the nineties, late nineties. Johnny Cash, Joe Sturm or combo, that's a good way of describing Mike Ness. I'd like to do a Mike Ness episode at some point. I feel like there's a lot from that uh, eighties LA hardcore scene that I have not died, dove, dove into. I have not submerged

• 24:07Jake Brennan?

  myself into as of yet. And there's, uh, there's a lot of stories out there. So thanks for prompting me. I love that about this. That's what I love about this community. You guys, I wouldn't have thought of Mike Ness in an LA punk hardcore eighties episode today at all if it were not for your call here. 270 Todd, appreciate you. Guys, be like 270 Todd. Hit me up 617-906-6638. Voicemails, texts, can answer the question of the week. You can, uh, you can even just, you know, tell me about something you want to hear. You can tell me about something you've already heard and that you'd like me to tell. So there's all kinds of different ways into these conversations. 412 called in, brought up David Allen Co. At some point, 412, I will

• 24:48Jake Brennan?

  do a David Allen Co. episode. I'm not ready to do that yet. 605, now 605, I have one, let's count them. One, two, three messages from Jennifer, voicemails from Jennifer in the 605. Uh, in the first two, she makes a strong case for a Blind Melon episode. And Jennifer, I will have you know. Matt, we just recorded a Blind Melon episode, and I believe, Matt, it's coming up. Correct me if I'm wrong, that is an exclusive episode, correct?

• 25:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, Jake, that is an exclusive All Access episode. It's actually last month's All Access episode. It's available right now in the All Access feed. We've got an episode on Blind Melon and Shannon Hoon.

• 25:35Jake Brennan?

  All right, thank you, my friend. Jennifer, as Matt says, this is an exclusive episode. You're going to be an exclusive All Access member to hear the Blind Melon episode. Sorry, but, you know, good news is it's really simple to become an All Access member. It's just five bucks a month, and you get more than that Blind Melon episode. You get a new episode like the Alice Cooper one this month. You get a new one every month, and you get ad-free listening to Disgrace Land and Hollywood Land. So, you know, go sign up. Go to disgracelandpod.com/membership. Don't be afraid, Jennifer. Have no fear. You might not hear that All Access member of Blind Melon, but you're gonna hear your voice.

• 26:08Speaker 07

  This is Jennifer Gens, this is a 330. I wanted to also mention Collective Soul. There are so many I can mention to you. I'm a radio DJ. I've been a live radio DJ since about 2009, somewhere in there. Anyways, so there as well. I wanted to answer the question, though, of this week, which was, who is the most punk in the country, the genre? Who was the most punk? And that would have to be Dwight Yoakam. Dwight Yoakam was found in a punk band, in the punk scene, when they pulled him out and said, hey, come sing country for us. So, you know, gonna make a mula, you're gonna do it. Take care, rock-a-roller.

• 26:49Jake Brennan?

  Jennifer, Collective Soul? I don't know about Collective Soul. I don't know anything about Collective Soul, so I'm not sure there's an episode in the works there. But if you've got some dirt, you've got some stories, you've got something dramatic, you've got something that is not part of the popular, sort of zeitgeist, you know, rock history, something I can dig my teeth into with Collective Soul, something crimey, by all means, get in touch. You mentioned County Crows in one of your earlier voicemails that I didn't play. And, yeah, maybe, maybe. I'm sure there's some stuff there. I saw this great interview with Adam Duritz on Instagram the other day. I don't know who he was being interviewed by, but he was talking about his time as a bartender at the Viper Room.

• 27:32Jake Brennan?

  And I thought, that's good. And he was talking about Gibby from Butthole Surfers, teaching him how to make ribs. I was like, oh, that's some good stuff. So yeah, maybe a Counting Crows episode. Then you get the whole friends connection. I like all that stuff. So that, that, that could be cool. Thank you, Jennifer. Jennifer, real quick on Dwight Yoakam. Dwight Yoakam would be a great episode as well. Guitarist, Cadillacs, hillbilly music. Love me some Dwight. Love me some tight, some tight faded blue jeans. Okay. Those long legs, those cowboy boots. You know what I'm talking about, Jennifer. Don't act like you don't. All right, guys, be like Jennifer and get in touch 617-906-6638. You know why? Because you guys, you know that music history does not have to be boring. You know that you've got a line on these crazy ass stories, just

• 28:15Jake Brennan?

  like I do. You dig and you call and you dig and you text and you dig and you DM and then we get into it. And then we have this great, wonderful library of incredible storytelling for music history. That's all in part because of you guys. And I truly appreciate it. On this whole dig baby dig thing. So you dig baby dig, dig baby digs. Why is that hard for me to say dig baby dig thing that we talked about for the first time last week? I got an email from a gentleman by the name of Scott, who, hey, I loved your off the cuff comment about a dig baby dig t-shirt. I put the normal logo on front, pocket size,

• 28:53Jake Brennan?

  and I put this on the back. And Scott here from the 623 sent in a t-shirt design that he made. And I dig it. Scott, looks like you might've used a little artificial intelligence here, because that logo is not the actual logo, Scott. So I can't use that. But I am inspired by your inspiration, my friend. And we have the, we have the merch monkeys over here at Double Elvis headquarters digging in right now as we speak, whipping up some dig baby dig designs. I'll have that for you guys soon to take a look at. Probably have some designs for you guys to choose from. I'll put them up on Patreon. We can get into it, decide which ones we like. And then I'll get some, I don't know, maybe shirts, maybe hats. We'll see. I don't know. We'll see what the merch monkeys come back with.

• 29:37Jake Brennan?

  Scott, appreciate the email. There's grace on [email protected]. If you guys want to email me about anything like Scott, be like Scott, email me. You can also text me 617-906-6638. 386 texts in Root Boy Slim and the Sex Change Band. Root Boy's life is totally insane. And the fact that he got a major record deal from WB, I'm assuming that's Warner Brothers, and had some high caliber musicians on his albums, both with the SCB and solo, is ridiculous because his songs are ridiculous, but also somehow infectious as hell. Steven Daytona. Steven Daytona, you sound like a character in an Elmore Leonard book. And that's cool. I've never heard of Root Boy Slim and the Sex Change Band. Are you fucking with me,

• 30:20Jake Brennan?

  Steven Daytona? I just wanted to say Steven Daytona again. Um, hold on. Am I, am I seeing this right? Hold on. Oh, man, I am. I'm just seeing this in the middle of reading Steven Daytona's email there. I got a notification here. Ozzy Osbourne has died. This is Tuesday. I mentioned that earlier that I'm recording. This is Tuesday, July 22. Damn, man. 76 years old. And of course, just weeks after the Black Sabbath farewell show. Ozzy Osbourne, for me, one of a kind. For sure, the first heavy metal I ever heard. I remember hearing

• 31:04Jake Brennan?

  Iron Man, probably as a five-year-old. And my, one of my buddy's moms had that record, mom, she had that record. And of course, we all, we all love the sort of, you know, robotic voice in the beginning as a young kid. And I heard that song the other day, actually, when I was driving with my son. And it was in the breakdown part in the middle of the song, and that rhythm section, the Black Sabbath rhythm section is just crushing it. That song's become, I don't want to say a novelty, but it became this thing that gets played at hockey games, but the musicianship on it is incredible. Ozzy Osbourne, lots to say about Ozzy Osbourne. People have said a ton. They've filled books about Ozzy. They've made documentaries about Ozzy. We've made an

• 31:49Jake Brennan?

  episode on Ozzy, plus a Black Sabbath episode as well. And one of the things that I feel like does not get mentioned enough when it comes to Ozzy Osbourne is the fact that he was an incredible singer, just an incredible singer and an incredible melodist. Is that the right word, Matt? Melodissis? You know what I mean? Just those melodies. Unbelievable. One of the things that I always think about, and I started thinking about this as an adolescent, and when I first heard Black Sabbath, and by the time I was an adolescent teenager, I kind of knew a little bit about music. And I had this thought then, somebody probably,

• 32:31Jake Brennan?

  it probably came from somebody else, and I just don't remember who it was. But Ozzy's main influence was The Beatles. Black Sabbath came out in the late 60s, early 70s. How do you get from The Beatles to Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath? How do they do that? And I know Tony Iommi, Bill Ward, Geezer Butler, they obviously had so much to do with the creative spark of that band. But Ozzy did as well. And he's been characterized as this madman, and he's known for his wild antics and the whole thing with the bat and the biting off the head of the bird, all that stuff. But it doesn't erase the fact that what he

• 33:14Jake Brennan?

  created at the time was almost completely novel. Nobody had done that before. He was part of that. And his voice is completely unique. It's singular in the history of rock and roll, in the history of music. And he'll be remembered forever, and for good reason. Just a tremendous, tremendous musician, tremendous life. And he's going to be missed by so many. And I love that they got these concerts off in the last couple of weeks before he passed away. My heart goes out to his kids, to his wife, to the rest of his family, to all the bandmates who played with him, both throughout his solo career,

• 33:53Jake Brennan?

  Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, rest in peace. We're supposed to release those Sex Pistols episodes this weekend, Matt.

• 34:03Jake Brennan?

  Uh, I'm thinking maybe we release, we re-release the Ozzy Osbourne in the Black Sabbath episodes, maybe in reverse order, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, excuse me, and then Ozzy. And just kinda do our own little tribute here to the Prince of Darkness. Save the Sex Pistols for another time. Um, I don't know. Like I said, I'm hearing this in real time as I'm recording and I got a notify, I said I got a notification. That's not entirely accurate. What actually happened was I got a text from one of you guys from the 724. R.I.P. to Ozzy. Thursday's after-party is gonna hit different when you mention it. Yeah, you're right. Definitely feels strange to get this, get this information in the midst

• 34:48Jake Brennan?

  of a recording, but as every great entertainer will tell you, Ozzy Osbourne included. The show must go on. It's rule number one. So with that, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back in a flash.

• 35:08Jake Brennan?

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• 37:17Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. Ladies and gentlemen, here in the after-party, Ozzy Osbourne has passed away. We just got this news and the skies have opened up outside the studio. It's pouring rain right now. You might be able to hear some of that rain, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath style, the opening seconds, little thunder, little rain, the opening seconds of Ozzy Osbourne's great debut. I think it's apropos. I could wait until the rain dies down, but I'm not gonna, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna record here in honor of Ozzy Osbourne. But like I said, at the end of that last block, the show must go on and we get to do a little bit of business here. We got to get into our 60-second sports rant in under 30 seconds, where you guys indulge me.

• 38:02Jake Brennan?

  You give me just a little teensy bit of space to vent on what's happening in sports this week because yeah, I'm a music guy and I'm a books guy and I'm a movies guy, sure, but I'm also a sports guy. And this week's 60-second sports rant in under 30 seconds is once again brought to you by Five Hour Energy, so big thanks to them. I was up late last night on purpose, okay? Golfed this past weekend and once again, I was not good, but Five Hour Energy's new transfusion flavor, it helped, all right? And I was at least better on the putting green than the Red Sox were in the 10th inning last night. Matt, are we rolling here? Let's get that buzzer beater going, okay? Let's do this because I'm definitely rolling here. First of all, okay, Red Sox should have won that game in the ninth inning against the Phillies on Monday night. But then they end up in extras in the 10th, and I get that, okay?

• 38:44Jake Brennan?

  But to lose in extra innings on catcher interference is pathetic. The Red Sox should be jamming with that Five Hour Energy transfusion flavor, you know? You know what I'm saying? And I know they're baseball players, and Five Hour Energy's transfusion flavor is inspired by golf's unofficial cocktail with its hints of grape and lime and ginger. But Narvez, come on, man. There's no alcohol in transfusion. Head to your local retailer or www.fivehourenergy.com to order yours today. Give yourself some extra energy out on the golf course, or even in the 10th inning if you're a sleeping Red Sox catcher. All right, Matt, how'd I do? Did I maintain my streak?

• 39:18Speaker 06

  Jake, the training, the Five Hour Energy, it's paying off. 39 seconds, so we're getting close to that goal. A big improvement from last week, let's keep it up.

• 39:28Jake Brennan?

  All right. Well, like the Red Sox, better luck next time. Okay, that was the 60-second sports rant and under 30 seconds sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new transfusion flavor with as much caffeine as a premium cup of coffee with zero sugar and a compact bottle. Five Hour Energy is ready when and where you are, even if you're not a golfer like me. So grab your crew, get your energy and tee off with Five Hour Energy's new transfusion flavor available in stores or online at www.fivehourenergy.com. All right, before I tell you guys this Waylon Jennings cocaine bear story, I gotta remind you that over in the Hollywoodland feed, there's a new episode on Jane Mansfield, and there's a new rap party bonus episode with me and Zeth talking to Anton LaVey, Corey Haim, Bonnie

• 40:12Jake Brennan?

  Prince Billy, and a whole bunch more, so you're not gonna wanna miss that, all right? Now, I mentioned the cocaine bear Waylon Jennings story. That's only coming to your ears if you're Ozzy Osbourne and can listen in from the Astroplane, or if you're a Disgraceland All-Access member, and you will therefore be granted access into the after-after-party here in a minute, which of course has a cover charge of only $5 a month, and also gets you unlimited commercial-free listening to Disgraceland and Hollywoodland, and you get that extra full episode of Disgraceland per month, plus access to me and all your discos in the Patreon chat if you crave that little extra something, that little extra community buzz from me and your fellow Disgraceland listeners. Back in a flash.

• 41:07Jake Brennan?

  All right. Welcome back to the after party. We're about to get out of here. I want to get into the vault section here, mentioned the, you know, we got all screwed up here today in today's episode because, you know, originally I started talking about the rewind episodes were gonna be the Sex Pistols episodes. And then in the course of recording this episode, we got news that Ozzy Osbourne had passed away. So Sex Pistols will not be in the rewind slots this week. We made a programming decision in real time while recording this and we will have the Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne episodes, two episodes for you and the rewind slots at the end of this week. All right. So you can dive into that and then your Sex Pistols episodes, those will remain in the archive for, I don't know, I don't know for how much longer, but Matt will have the show information on those

• 41:52Jake Brennan?

  pistols apps for you. If you want to go check those out. And again, Seth Lundey wrote his ass off on those. Also mentioned Johnny Cash and we of course have a Johnny Cash episode. So you can listen to that. Matt will have that info for you as well in the show notes. So I gotta get out of here. I'm taking off. I'm doing a little tiny vacation tomorrow and it's 5:52 here Eastern Time on a Tuesday. It's, it's a, I get some Black Sabbath rain happening outside my window right now. I have so much to record tonight. I haven't packed anything. I gotta get out. All right. Let's recap. Number one, this week's full episode, Waylon Jennings, that is live for you right now. Coming at you next for you all access members, our Alice Cooper episode that'll pair well with

• 42:35Jake Brennan?

  our rewind episodes at the end of the week in the wide feed on Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath. Next week on Tuesday, our Mark Lanegan episode, you're gonna want to get in on that action. Number five, over in the Hollywood land feed, Jane Mansfield and Seth and I in the rap party talking Bonnie Prince Billy's acting career. Who knew? Damn.

• 42:54Jake Brennan?

  Number six, 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. DM me at disgracelandpod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and X, [email protected]. To email me. Listen, your voice helps uncover what gets buried, okay? Your takes, they propel me into the dark corners of music history. So keep them coming. Dig, baby, dig. Get in touch and let me know what you know, all right? Number seven, don't forget, this isn't just content discos. This is a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music books, records, and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. Rock-a-roller, I gotta take off. But before I do, on August 24th, 1977, federal agents raided Waylon Jennings' studio. And this was what America was listening to that day, according

• 43:37Jake Brennan?

  to the Billboard charts. Number one, Best of My Love, The Emotions, last week, three. Weeks on the chart, 11. Number two, I Just Wanna Be Your Everything, Andy Gibb, last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, 18. Number three, Your Love Has Lifted Me Higher and Higher, Rita Coolidge, last week, four. Peak position, three. Weeks on chart, 16. Number four, I'm In You, Peter Frampton, last week, two. Peak position, two. Weeks on chart, 13. Number five, Commodores, last week, seven. Peak position, five. Weeks on

• 44:22Jake Brennan?

  chart, 12. Number six,

• 44:35Speaker 00

  Quit talking and start mixing.

• 44:38Speaker 09

  Cut it. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I love you. We love you.

• 44:47Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

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• 45:48Jake Brennan?

  Hey guys, time to dust off your detective skills while unwinding in the Caribbean on Virgin Voyages' second true crime voyage. It's back by popular demand. This five-night, adults-only escape set sail March 20, 2027, to Grand Turk in the Beach Club at Bimini. The difference between this year and last will be that I will be on the cruise this year, along with Zeph, and he and I will be taping a live version of DisgraceLand, along with podcast hosts from Exactly Right's Buried Bones, Podcast of the Year Award winners, Wisecrack, and other fan favorites. Get on this cruise with us, guys, and enjoy live podcast recordings, behind-the-scenes storytelling, exclusive meet-and-greets, and immersive

• 46:29Jake Brennan?

  true crime programming throughout this one-of-a-kind voyage. Head over to www.virginvoyages.com/truecrime to secure your spot.