The Snack: RIP Hooters, Meghan Sussex, and Men Ruining Dating Shows

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we discuss: RIP to all the chain stores and restaurants closing Fyre Festival 2 takes another hit Millie Bobby Brown calls out her critics Meghan Markle's new Netflix show Review of The Baldwins Love is Blind finale and reunion recap Best moments in Love is Blind history What we've been watching lately Top headlines of the week Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Brooklinen: Get 15% off your first order at https://brooklinen.com. Belli Welli: Get 20% at https://belliwelli.com with code GGE20. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome to the snack, a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat.

• 0:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:12Rayna Greenberg?

  What's been up?

• 0:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've seen you a lot.

• 0:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh.

• 0:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  We took a long break when I was sick.

• 0:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, from seeing each other.

• 0:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then we went straight on a vacation together.

• 0:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I have not traveled with you in a really long time, and I don't like it.

• 0:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  That was...

• 0:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Since December.

• 0:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, that was my first flight of the year. I'm gonna talk about it on Monday's episode.

• 0:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 0:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're gonna keep the snack to the snack, but I have some things to say.

• 0:33Rayna Greenberg?

  About traveling with me?

• 0:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  We'll just...

• 0:36Rayna Greenberg?

  About your first flight?

• 0:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  My first flight.

• 0:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 0:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  First flight of 2025.

• 0:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley learned something new about me.

• 0:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tune in Monday.

• 0:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 0:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hot teaser alert. Hear about an airplane.

• 0:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, Monday, actually, our giveaway for Vibes Only will close, so just want to mention this again. We have a company, a sexual wellness company called Vibes Only. We're doing a great giveaway for you guys. The Poppy Palm Vibrator. It's my favorite solo toy, partner toy, travel toy, along with our Juiced Up Lube. We're doing a giveaway of those two things for three people. All you have to do is leave a review in the App Store of our app, the Vibes Only app, and then email us the review at [email protected], the review. And we'll, we'll close the giveaway on, on Monday.

• 1:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and this is on our Instagram, Vibes Only. You can check it out. The rules are there if you miss them. And yeah, get, win something.

• 1:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Get yourself juiced up.

• 1:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, well, we'll thank our partners. We'll jump right in. Thanks to BellyWelly. Get 20% off at belliwelli.com with code GGE20.

• 1:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Brooklinen. Get 15% off your first order at Brooklinen.com.

• 1:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, you want to kick it off with a report?

• 1:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  We have a closing report. All the stores that are closing. All I'm hearing in my head is we're saying, "This is closing time. All these stores are closing."

• 1:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I know what song you're singing.

• 1:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, of course. Sometimes I don't know what you're doing.

• 1:56Rayna Greenberg?

  That's like every bar, every bar plays that.

• 1:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  When the lights come on and closing time comes on, you're like, oh, that's what you look like?

• 2:02Rayna Greenberg?

  No, we got kicked out of this bar at 11:00 PM on Friday night in Austin. I was like, this is, this is too early for this to be happening.

• 2:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Closing time.

• 2:10Rayna Greenberg?

  We've been seeing this all over, tons of stores going out of business, big chains. And Newsweek did an article this week just about the amount of closing. So basically, Newsweek is saying 2024, approximately almost 7,400 retail stores closed in the US. And it's projecting that in 2025, it will double to 15,000. So a lot of stores are just moving to an online model only.

• 2:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  And restaurants.

• 2:33Rayna Greenberg?

  And, well, they're not going to move online.

• 2:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sorry, I'm on a delay. By the way, I'm still recovering. But I'm also, we're going to talk about some restaurants. Remember that guy that I like sort of dated and he was going to be an online trainer? Which that can be a thing, but in the moment, it was just very funny to think about like, hey, gotta go online.

• 2:56Rayna Greenberg?

  He was really ahead of his time because, um,

• 3:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, we knew a lot of people, our friends Bobby and Izzy that started like an online training business during COVID. But this guy was like, I'm not going onsite.

• 3:08Rayna Greenberg?

  And I don't know what was keeping him so busy. He wasn't successful in other areas of his life.

• 3:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  So yeah, so the restaurants are going online.

• 3:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, this is sad. I mean, I, you know, we're going to keep it light. It's the snack. But retail is, I don't want to say retail is over, but some people would say that. I mean, I have a friend who was a small business that she posted something online of like, we're really struggling. Everybody is struggling. And obviously hits different small businesses that can't survive at all in our current climate. And for the past few years or however long that it's been, but even like the big stores. But some of these feel like, oh, I didn't know they were still around.

• 3:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't even know.

• 3:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  I did not know Joann Fabrics was still kicking like that.

• 3:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Some of these really hurt.

• 3:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Joann Fabrics, I used to go to a lot growing up. We like knitted and sewed a lot at the house. And, okay, Little House on the Prairie.

• 3:59Rayna Greenberg?

  We knitted and sewed a lot.

• 4:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I did.

• 4:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Who did?

• 4:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Me.

• 4:03Rayna Greenberg?

  And who?

• 4:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  My mom.

• 4:04Rayna Greenberg?

  You and your mom?

• 4:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  My mom and I knitted together. We did do stuff together. But like my, I took sewing all four years of high school. I was like a big ass sewer. I learned to knit. I loved to knit. I was Joann a lot.

• 4:14Rayna Greenberg?

  You were Craig Conover. You were the original.

• 4:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was before Craig, Craig Conover. He, he reheated my nachos.

• 4:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  I bet you've made a killer pillow.

• 4:24Rayna Greenberg?

  That was actually the only thing I could make because you just sew in a square. That really hurt. Party City really hurts.

• 4:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let's go through them. Yeah. So let's talk about them.

• 4:33Rayna Greenberg?

  And of course, you know, we want to say like that, like these big corporations, easy to write it off is like they have enough money. Who cares? But like, it's the people who work there. They're so affected and I just, I hate to see it. And really like, loss of income and jobs is so, so sad.

• 4:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, people who work in retail or restaurants at whatever phase in life, obviously you have young people that work there and you have people that work there their whole lives. And it's not going to be so easy to just get another job like that because all these places are closing. You can't just like go to the other fabric store down the street. That's closed too.

• 5:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Michael's.

• 5:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  You can't just go from Red Lobster to Olive Garden. You know, like it's not going to be so easy.

• 5:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 5:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I just, I feel bad.

• 5:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I do too.

• 5:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  So there's the Newsweek article, "A List of Stores Closing After Being Taken Over by Private Equity." And the list, the main ones are Jo-Ann Fabrics, the 99 cent store, Party City. Party City really hurt. But we knew about that before. And then I knew it was closing and then I went into a Party City to get some decor for New Year's. The New Year's show that I hosted and like everything was on sale. I was like, this is just sad, but I got a lot. Big Lots.

• 5:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Which I actually did not even know that it still existed.

• 5:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then Red Lobster.

• 5:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. Red Lobster hurts.

• 5:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  It really.

• 5:49Rayna Greenberg?

  It's better than biscuits.

• 5:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Red Lobster, like when my high school boyfriend, when he took me to a Red Lobster, I was like, how rich is he?

• 5:57Rayna Greenberg?

  No, we never got to go to Red Lobster. Olive Garden for prom and Red Lobster on like really, really nice occasions. I don't think that I made it through the doors of Red Lobster until I was at least in high school.

• 6:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  The way you felt walking into a Red Lobster, like I, am I royalty?

• 6:13Rayna Greenberg?

  No, seriously.

• 6:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because we were so like TGI Fridays and Applebee's.

• 6:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Us too.

• 6:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Olive Garden, we would go as a family. Didn't have to be a super special occasion, but not a lot, we wouldn't go. But like Red Lobster was next tier up.

• 6:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I just-

• 6:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Lobster?

• 6:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I was sold this story that like, no one can afford seafood. I told you we'd get like shrimp cocktail rings and my parents would make me feel like if I ate more than three, that like, we just, we could never afford to eat again.

• 6:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 6:36Rayna Greenberg?

  And Red Lobster, same thing. I was like, who can afford lobster?

• 6:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 6:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Who are they?

• 6:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  This, we were gonna like reminisce on some stories. So this one time, we went to Red Lobster as a family. I don't know what the special occasion was. And it sat on Route 13 in Dover, Delaware. And one time, we went to Red Lobster as a family and Matt kinda tripped. He was always goofing off and being funny. Like, he was very like, physical comedy. So he tripped and kinda rolled down the hill towards the highway. It wasn't like, close enough. It wasn't like, close enough that he was gonna roll into the highway, but there was like, sort of a hill, and then there was a high- so-

• 7:09Rayna Greenberg?

  He was doing physical comedy?

• 7:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think the first time he did it, he was like joking around. And I was like, oh, he just is not funny. He thinks he's so funny. He's not funny. Like, I hated it. Now I think he's obviously so funny. And it was this like funny thing, the whole family got a kick out of it, whatever. I, even I laughed a little bit. And then we went to Red Lobster, I don't know, months later, a year later, whenever, and he tried to replicate it, and he sliced his leg open. And had to go to the hospital.

• 7:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was like, that's what you get for trying to think you're the comedian in the family. He tried to replicate it. His blood's-

• 7:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Was he in the restaurant?

• 7:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Blood is everywhere.

• 7:43Rayna Greenberg?

  In the restaurant?

• 7:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Leaving the restaurant.

• 7:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, in the parking lot?

• 7:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I'd already have my 12 Cheddar Bay biscuits.

• 7:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Because my brother stood up at Bravo Italian Eatery. Did you have Bravo growing up?

• 7:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 7:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Bravo looks sort of like the Cheesecake Factory. It's a chain.

• 7:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was it more elevated, like a macaroni grill?

• 8:00Rayna Greenberg?

  It was very elevated. Yes, like the macaroni grill. And my brother started taking these like, supplements he brought on the black market, so like, looked more jacked.

• 8:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  And- That's scary.

• 8:09Rayna Greenberg?

  My dad's yelling at him. It's Father's Day. My dad's yelling at him on the way to the restaurant, like, like, "Don't ever fucking buy these again. Don't take these", whatever. My brother's trying to be like a juiced up meathead in high school, whatever. So we go to Bravo, and my brother is in the middle of a sentence. It's his Father's Day. It is packed to the walls. We have all this food on the table. And my brother stands up and he's like- I don't feel so in the middle of sentence like Exorcist style projectile vomit.

• 8:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 8:33Rayna Greenberg?

  All over the table.

• 8:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  All over the table?

• 8:35Rayna Greenberg?

  It was in all the cups. It was in the bread plates. It was in all the soup and the food. It was crazy.

• 8:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, you're out of this family.

• 8:44Rayna Greenberg?

  And then I was like, we have to leave. We should leave right this second. And my dad's like, we're not leaving. It's Father's Day and we're gonna eat. And he calls the staff over and he's like, can you guys just, can you clean this up? And can we move to another table? And we got up and moved to another table in the middle of the restaurant.

• 9:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Your brother's in a coma. Your dad's like, take him to the ER. It's Father's Day. I don't care. Get him out of here. He's ruining my special day.

• 9:08Rayna Greenberg?

  And my brother, he had stood up and he was in the middle of a sentence and puked a little bit. And then he was like, I'm okay. And then he puked again.

• 9:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, that's like out of a movie shit.

• 9:19Rayna Greenberg?

  It was crazy. The way my dad was so adamant that we stay in that restaurant, like we weren't in the middle of a strip mall with a hundred other restaurants.

• 9:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. You will clean this puke up and we're staying.

• 9:31Rayna Greenberg?

  My dad was like, we are staying. And I was like, you better tip these people a thousand dollars each.

• 9:36Rayna Greenberg?

  So that's my chain restaurant story. And then Forever 21 is set to close hundreds of stores as well. And I don't know that you have as much of like a, like an internal touch point to Forever 21 from growing up as I do. Cause like the Union Square Forever 21 was open 24 hours in New York City.

• 9:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yes. Well, that's not growing up. That's you as an adult.

• 9:56Rayna Greenberg?

  In my twenties though, I would go. And so like, I would go by going out tops at that Forever 21 like three days a week.

• 10:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  It makes me sad to hear you say that. I mean, that's such a memory. It's so nostalgic.

• 10:08Rayna Greenberg?

  So important to me. And then sometimes you would like go out with your girlfriends and like not look cute. And then like a guy would text you to like go over to their place and you would like, stop at Forever 21 for like a getting dick top at like 11 o'clock at night.

• 10:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  That is so funny. What a party. Those days, just being at Forever 21 at three in the morning.

• 10:25Rayna Greenberg?

  It was amazing.

• 10:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  I got a booty call.

• 10:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, who even thought to do that? Who was like, people are gonna be going out tops at three in the morning. Let's stay open 24 hours.

• 10:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  That really is so nuts. I, I mean, yeah, I obviously was a fan of Forever 21. But I didn't, it just, it's all like depends on what you had in your area, what you had in your mall growing up. I mean, number one for me was Express and Express is still barely around. Like they closed, obviously a ton of stores and they have online only, but that was like my heart and soul.

• 10:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Those button down blouses?

• 10:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just everything.

• 10:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I couldn't get enough of those print blouses.

• 10:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God.

• 10:57Rayna Greenberg?

  And the editor pants.

• 10:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  The editor pants.

• 10:59Rayna Greenberg?

  And the, and the tanks with the built in bras.

• 11:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, 100%. And then lastly is Hooters. So Hooters, this has been talked about for a couple of weeks. They're, they declared bankruptcy or they're talking about bankruptcy. They're closing a bunch of locations. It's not completely shuttered and there's just some, been some funny articles about it. Like Kevin Durant and Devin Booker, these basketball players react. It says, the article says, uh, they react to Hooters facing potential bankruptcy. Please don't go. They love it. Did you have a lot of Hooters memories? Like, do people want you to work there because of your big tits? Like, were people like, you should work at Hooters. Like, did you get that a lot?

• 11:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Primarily suggested that I work at Hooters.

• 11:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  100% I knew that.

• 11:36Rayna Greenberg?

  And I, I had nothing to, nothing against it. Maybe we just didn't have one in like Bloomington, Indiana in college.

• 11:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  It seems like they would.

• 11:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I did Cheesecake Factory instead.

• 11:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. Do you think there's a pipeline from girls who worked at Hooters and they have OnlyFans now?

• 11:48Rayna Greenberg?

  They should.

• 11:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's the direct pipeline.

• 11:51Rayna Greenberg?

  OnlyFans actually advertising from the lobby.

• 11:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So Hooters, like we had one in, in Delaware. It wasn't like right in the town, but like, I remember one of our guy friends 18th birthday. We all went there, you know, they like banging wings, whatever. But in my twenties, I had heard that you go to Hooters and they have the special pantyhose in the bathroom, like in a vending machine in like the handicap stall. And this was like pre, where we had a lot of pantyhose options, like the really smooth, like you wear them now, where they make your legs look really tan. They like suck you in, make your legs look really tan. They were great for like Halloween costumes. Like I was like Beyonce one year for like single ladies. Like I wore the full leotard, like my legs were just out. So I was like, what am I gonna, what pantyhose am I gonna wear? And someone said like, you gotta go to Hooters and get the, you know, the Hooters girls wear the pantyhose.

• 12:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, they're like a thicker, shinier, they make your legs look very smooth. I wear them on stage.

• 12:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, you wear them on stage, but like back then it was like, how do you even get those Hooters legs? So I would go to the Hooters in downtown Atlanta and hit that handicap stall, put a couple like quarters in, or I don't even remember, cash and get the Hooters pantyhose. It was like a whole thing.

• 12:56Rayna Greenberg?

  What a hack.

• 12:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, I vlogged it one time.

• 13:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  So anyway, I'm sure obviously they have other places to purchase those these days, but that was my, that was my Hooters.

• 13:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, RIP to all these places. We will miss you. All right. Fyre Festival 2 up next. So from People Magazine, Fyre Festival 2 quote unquote, "does not exist," according to Isla Majora's Tourism Board. According to the Tourism Board, "does not exist. Organizers still claim that it is real."

• 13:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I got a DM the day after we talked about Fire 2 a couple of weeks ago, and I was trying to find it to read it word for word, but a follower of mine messaged and was like, "I live on East La Muah Harris and the town is saying like, we're not doing this here." So I had like this early tip and I was like, "Oh, that's so interesting." And then the articles started to come out, but I think this is so crazy. Like, can you imagine if you and I were like, "Guys, we're doing a show, Madison Square Garden in June, and then Madison Square Garden's like, they're not, that's not true." Like, the city of New York has to be like, "That's not, they're not coming here."

• 13:56Rayna Greenberg?

  And this is like very official. It's coming to the Director, the Director General of Economic Development. He said, "We have no knowledge of this event, no contact with any person or company about this. For us, this is an event that does not exist." I mean, they're like, "Make no, make no mistake about it."

• 14:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did they sell tickets to this?

• 14:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, the tickets went on sale. They've sold tickets to this.

• 14:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is crazy to me. Billy McFarland is, is out of his mind.

• 14:17Rayna Greenberg?

  According to the website, Fyre Festival 2 is going to be held May 30th to June 2nd, so it is coming up.

• 14:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I'm sure it is.

• 14:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Tickets start at $1,400.

• 14:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  People have spent money on this.

• 14:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 14:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  For sure, for sure.

• 14:30Rayna Greenberg?

  According to...

• 14:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  And the town is saying it's not happening.

• 14:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 14:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Isn't that so crazy? I find it so crazy. It's like, I feel like I'm missing something. It's so crazy.

• 14:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought it was like a joke or they had like, when I first saw it, I was like, "Is this some just like random person on the island?" No, it was like the head of the Tourism Board is like, "We don't know anything about this." Nope. They're just saying it's not happening.

• 14:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 14:50Rayna Greenberg?

  And Billy McFarland has already been to prison for wire fraud and making this all up the first time. So I don't really know why he thinks he would be able to get away with this. Like...

• 15:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 15:01Rayna Greenberg?

  That's why I find it so confusing. Like, how is, he can't get away with it? It's not even like a "maybe I'll get away with it" kind of thing. So it's very strange for me to release statements and... Put this on sale and the tourism board is saying this isn't happening. How is that possible?

• 15:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, if you guys were planning on going there, I have a great rec. It's called Mango Cafe. It is truly one of the best meals I've ever had in my life. It's like this famous place. Well, if you booked your travel already to Isla Mujeres, hit up Mango Cafe. It's honestly like one of the best places I've ever been.

• 15:31Rayna Greenberg?

  All right. Well, if you guys were dumb enough to buy these tickets.

• 15:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or if you're just going. That's where Lindsay and Buck got their little dog.

• 15:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, we really?

• 15:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  They like got a dog from there.

• 15:41Rayna Greenberg?

  If you want a dog shop.

• 15:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, go to Mango. Yeah, you will not be going to Fire too.

• 15:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Probably not. It seems like in two months. Yeah. It seems like in six weeks, we're not going to build a festival.

• 15:54Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy.

• 15:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, next topic.

• 15:57Rayna Greenberg?

  So this story really struck me. I really love it. It's about Millie Bobby Brown. She's been in the news so much recently. The title of this article is Millie Bobby Brown is calling out disturbing criticism of her appearance. So what had happened was obviously we're in award season. She's on the red carpet a lot. She has done this really platinum, long hair blonde look. And people have had stuff to say about it, talking about her appearance, talking about how she looks old. She doesn't look like herself. Millie Bobby Brown's 21. Even if she, it doesn't matter what age she is, it's not nice to call somebody that in a derogatory way. And you don't really see a lot of celebrities come out and hit back against the press. Usually it's just like, keep my head down, ignore it, it will go away.

• 16:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And you've got to wonder, obviously she's young, you know, you have to wonder what people's strategy is. Some people are like, don't give it your energy, don't take the bait. You know, like people certainly know, press and otherwise paparazzi, like who will take the bait and who won't. And I don't know, I can't even decide how I feel about it. You should be able to say this. You should be able to make this statement. I love, I love what she did.

• 17:04Rayna Greenberg?

  So she posted like a long form reel on Instagram and I just, I'll pull a quote from it. She said, I want to take a moment to address something that I think is bigger than me, is something that affects every young woman who grows up with public scrutiny. I started in this industry when I was 10. I grew up in front of the world and for some reason people can't seem to let me grow up. Instead they act like I'm. I'm supposed to stay frozen in time like I should still look the way I did on Stranger Things. And because I don't, I'm now a target. So she said, let's talk about the articles, the headlines and the people who were so desperate to tear it on young women. And she names them.

• 17:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Names them all, yeah.

• 17:33Rayna Greenberg?

  And she quotes them. She calls out women specifically. She says, you know, I, I, I hate that men are doing this, but why are women taking this and then giving light to it? She uses their names and I think it's really powerful and I think she's so young and this is so brave to do. For younger generations to say like, don't talk about me like this. And I think everybody that's brave enough to do this helps the next generation. Cause you and I grew up with Jessica Simpson and Britney Spears on television, being asked by grown adults about their breasts and their virginities and their sex lives. And it's so insane today, but it's because people spoke out about it over these years that that now is a disgusting, horrible thing to do.

• 18:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, but like, this is crazy to me. Like, are these writers proud of this? Like, how can you write these headlines or write these articles? It's this 21 year old is aging poorly. What are you thinking? Like, what are you, are you proud of this? Or do you get the ick from yourself? Like, this is not the 90s. I really find it so crazy that people are like, yep, that's what I do for a living. And I sleep at night.

• 18:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yep.

• 18:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just tear down people and the way that they look. And I, I find it really, really wild that we're still here in 2025. Like, it's really giving like 90s to the early 2000s.

• 18:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that people that have dedicated their lives to just tearing down other people publicly, like there's something wrong with you. And I know that everybody needs a job and needs to pay the bills, but there's gotta be another way.

• 19:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 19:03Rayna Greenberg?

  And, and to make money.

• 19:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I always do think, I always like to recognize the period of time that we're in. Like, if you did that in the 90s, that's understandable. We all, it was just like normal. And then you're kind of supposed to evolve past it and be like, I mean, I obviously wrote, I used to be a blogger. I've written stuff I would never write today. Like that I am like, oh, oh my God, that was like, I can't even believe that was me. You know, we, we all evolve, we all grow. That's like the beautiful part of like being a human and progressing and all that stuff. So, but you're doing it to today. Like, we know better today. You should.

• 19:40Rayna Greenberg?

  You should.

• 19:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I like that she did that. I mean, you know, I don't know. I have mixed feelings on her. But one thing I will say, and when I see her in interviews and whatnot, but one thing I will say is she just does not hold back. She's a strong personality. She's been famous since she was a kid. Also, when I say things like, I don't know how I feel about her. Like, I always give any celebrity grace that was famous as a kid. She's still a kid. But, you know, like, I don't know. That's a crazy way to grow up.

• 20:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I can't imagine it. And I'm also like, it makes me even more proud of her for doing this. Because she could very easily just be like, I've been a part of the Hollywood machine for so long. It's easy enough for me to just put my head down and keep going.

• 20:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Comes with the territory.

• 20:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 20:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 20:18Rayna Greenberg?

  But I think that you see this more and more. I mean, Chapel Rowan this summer was saying, like, I don't want to be approached like this by fans. I don't want to be like touched. I don't want people to feel like they're allowed to just do that to me. And it was shocking, but at the same time, I just, I think this is progress and change and women drawing boundaries about how you're allowed to approach them and speak about them. I love it.

• 20:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  And calling writers out by name, calling these people out by name, whatever, women, men, whoever they are. Like, maybe they'll hesitate the next time they try to write a piece like that. Or maybe if they're being forced to write pieces like that, they'll quit their jobs or go work for another outlet. Like, I really liked it. I like the holding the actual writers, calling them up by name, holding them accountable to this kind of thing.

• 20:55Rayna Greenberg?

  It was my favorite thing that she did. I mean, to me, that was the most important thing she did, where she was, she didn't just like, say what the headlines were. She was like, and I'm gonna name them. If you want to write this about me publicly, like, that's why I don't feel bad about dragging people that like, publicly write comments on our Instagram. Not that it almost ever happens, but like, if you're gonna do that, why should I not drag you publicly?

• 21:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, exactly. You're gonna say this with your whole chest? Okay, since we're kind of talking about clapbacks, one, that I didn't know if you saw this, but Rihanna posted on International Women's Day, and it was photos of her after she had had her babies, and she was just like, this is, you know, my greatest accomplishments is becoming a mother. And someone wrote something like, I hate their names, or something like, I hate her kids' names. Did you see this?

• 21:37Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 21:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just basically was like, I hate their names. And Rihanna wrote back, okay, Tatiana.

• 21:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you not see that?

• 21:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I died.

• 21:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Tatiana, cool name. Which, whatever you think about that name, but like, I was, she's, when she gets in there and claps back, she clapped back a lot of people around the election, how she was saying she wishes she could vote, and people had stuff to say, and she was clapping back. Like, when she gets in those comments, I'm like, oh, we are so back.

• 22:06Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, that was the whole beginning of comments by celebs, was that's an Instagram account, and they would like, basically just like, look through the internet for like, comments that celebrities would leave on like, everyday posts. And I talked to them this morning, we're working on having them on the show, so I'm excited. Yeah, I love it. Like, you'll see that the Kardashians once in a blue moon, especially Kourtney, will get on people's stuff and say something. I just, I think it's so funny.

• 22:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just, she, Rihanna never misses. It's always just like, short, cuts deep. Okay, Tatiana. Tatiana is gonna hate her name till forever.

• 22:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I wanna meme it. Like, I just, every time somebody says anything, it's like, um...

• 22:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Tatiana.

• 22:46Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like, damn Gina.

• 22:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Damn Gina, that's a deep cut. Damn Daniel?

• 22:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Damn.

• 22:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tessa, do you know damn Gina? There's no way.

• 22:55Rayna Greenberg?

  It's from Martin.

• 22:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  That is a really deep cut.

• 23:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Damn Gina is funny.

• 23:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  What was damned it?

• 23:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Damn Daniel.

• 23:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  What's that?

• 23:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Back out of the gun with the white vans.

• 23:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tessa, nailed it.

• 23:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Damn Daniel.

• 23:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Back out of the gun with the white vans. Yes. That's your generation's damn Gina. Um, okay, let's just take a quick break, and then we will get back into it. I am just telling you guys about Brooklyn and, oh my God, Raina, I slept so well last night. Like, a couple, what's been happening to me lately is I, which is rare, I don't know if you guys feel this way, where you fall asleep, and you don't wake up till you get up.

• 23:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, that's how I sleep in my Brooklyn. It's my favorite.

• 23:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  No tossing, no turning.

• 23:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Just the best.

• 23:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, when you wake up at whatever you wake up, like, 8 a.m. this morning, and I was like, oh my God. I just, I haven't been up since I went to sleep.

• 23:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome to my life. This is crazy.

• 23:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I've been loving my Brooklinen so much. So I have the sheets, obviously the pillowcases, and I have a duvet cover that's like so soft and silky. I mean, we love everything that they do. They have different materials. So the Luxe satin, that's what I was sleeping on last night, but they have a classic percale, which I have those as well. That's what I use in the summertime. There's a washed linen, organic cotton, heathered cashmere, and just, I love it so much. I mean, we have always like been so big on our bedding and what you have on your body. If you sleep naked, it's even on your body even more. And so this just feels so great and I'm obsessed with it. I love the packaging. It's so great to gift to yourself or someone else. And we just love

• 24:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  the way it fits into our home and our life. These, they obviously hold up. They're such high quality and you can pick different colors. Raina's been doing some more colored sheets lately. I have been too. I've been getting away from white and I just will do like a more beige color or cream. My, the duvet cover I'm using right now is cream and then the sheets are a beige color. So I'm really into that. Brooklinen's super high-quality products have been tested and awarded by experts, including Good Housekeeping, GQ, Wirecutter, and more. 200,000 plus, five-star reviews, millions of happy customers, and then they have these great bundles too. So you can customize a bundle. It makes it easy to refresh your bed and bathroom, putting everything you need in one place. We didn't mention this before, but they obviously have bedding, but they have stuff for a bath too. There's towels that are wonderful, robes, all kinds of stuff. So you guys

• 25:24Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 25:39Rayna Greenberg?

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• 26:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm hmm. Most people don't get enough.

• 26:50Rayna Greenberg?

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• 27:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just got an email from someone named Tatiana.

• 27:13Rayna Greenberg?

  No, you did not.

• 27:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  What's it about?

• 27:15Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like a pitch for something. Some like caffeinated gum. What if I just write back, okay, Tatiana?

• 27:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  See if she would get it.

• 27:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I hope that all day she's been getting that.

• 27:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's having a great day.

• 27:28Rayna Greenberg?

  But I hope that people have been saying that to her.

• 27:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's just one of those things of like, it sucks when your name turns into a thing. I don't think that this is going to take off the way Karen did, but like.

• 27:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Brutal. It won't take off like that, but that's crazy.

• 27:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm just saying, like, I feel bad for good Karens. Okay. Well, we want to talk about some shows, all kinds of stuff, but like what we've been watching. We're going to deep dive on a couple of things. Of course, we're going to do Hit Love is Blind, but should we kick it off with Meghan Markle? With love, Meghan.

• 27:55Rayna Greenberg?

  With love, Meghan. I would say that it has divided the internet, but it really kind of hasn't. It has been a really polarizing show.

• 28:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 28:04Rayna Greenberg?

  So Meghan Markle released her show on Netflix. It's supposed to be like an at home with Meghan. She has friends over. She cooks for people and she shows you how to do stuff like arrange flowers and shit like that.

• 28:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley and I just don't like, it's well intentioned, right? Like, the show at its core is well intentioned. I think that it's modeled after the Anna Gartens and Martha Stewart's of their time. And at a time where those shows really felt authentic, also, those women were housewives. Those women cooked in their homes, filmed in their homes. That really was their whole lives. There's been a lot of pushback about the unrelatability of this show. I mean, New York Magazine, the article, "Meghan Markle Pioneers New Frontiers on Unrelatability", and the article is scathing. And I won't give away to all the terrible things that they wrote, because I don't need to. Meghan Markle still seems like a nice person and...

• 28:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I mean, I watched one episode, and then I've seen plenty of clips. I mean, we were joking on Monday's episode, this clip with Mindy Kaling, where Mindy Kaling calls her Meghan Markle, and she's like, "You know, I'm Sussex now." And it's like, cringe-worthy. But, you know, we all have cringe-worthy moments. Like, I guess, my point is, I can't really give a thorough review. But, I, you know, people just are chomping at the bit to hate her. Like, I've seen critiques where I'm like, "That's a reach. Just say you hate her." You know, like, I don't think she can win. You know, I think that if the recipes are complicated with hard-to-source ingredients, then she's unapproachable and unrelatable. If they're too simple, then it's basic and boring, and why did this show get made? So, I want to start by saying, like, people are gonna hate her.

• 29:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think they should ask themselves why, to start. And if it's just that she, you think she's annoying, or you think she's unauthentic, then that's fine. But, like, I don't know. I'm like, do I like this show? I don't know. I mean, is it boring? Yeah, I don't, I don't even know what to say about it, but I'm just like, let Meghan have her little show. I don't know. Like, people clearly want to watch her do stuff. So, hasn't it been greenlit for a second season? Like, I, I, I don't know. I think people want to watch her do stuff. I think this is what she wants to do. One of my biggest frustrations with people's critiques of Meghan Markle is, "Oh, she just wants to be famous, and she just wants to be in the spotlight." She was an actress! Like people, they didn't want to be in the royal family, which who would?

• 30:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Seems like a nightmare, but I hate when people act like she was this under the radar nobody. And now she wants to be on TV. She's always wanted to be on TV. She was an actress.

• 30:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 30:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  So that's my thing. I'm not like a fan. I don't know. I see the lack of authenticity that people don't like. I certainly find her cringe sometimes. I don't know her personally. I think she's so beautiful. It's like hard to look at. I think she's one of the most beautiful women alive. I don't fault her for not wanting to be in that family. I, I don't know. I just think you know, you know how I feel, even with, even with Blake Lively, I always have a problem when people seem so excited to tear down a woman.

• 30:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 30:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  What, regardless of what they've done, where you can tell it's just like, oh my God, I've been dying to do this. You know, and I just, that's the energy I don't love.

• 31:03Rayna Greenberg?

  So, I mean, I've heard this said over and over, you know, she can't win for losing. There's nothing she could have done, like you said, that would have satisfied people. To me, it, it reads really unauthentic. There's a couple of categories of shows. I think that they, it's a crisis of not knowing what the show is. So

• 31:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 31:19Rayna Greenberg?

  There's just shows where celebrities do stuff and you watch them do stuff. So Paris Hilton had a cooking show. And it's not because Paris Hilton is like a great chef. It's because people want to watch celebrities do stuff. And then there are shows like Anna Garten and Martha Stewart that really are like these rich housewives. Martha Stewart had her own career as well, but they're actually teaching you like hosting tips and tricks and that felt like that was their corner of the world. This is a production issue. This is not like a Meghan Markle issue. I think she wasn't done any favors in terms of like how this was shot, scripted, like it's like this at home with Meghan show, but it's shot at a $5 million home down the street from her $20 million home. And they take her to this flower shop and she like talks to the guy. She's like, hey, Jose, how's it going? It feels really like forced and pretentious.

• 32:04Rayna Greenberg?

  And I don't know that that's really her fault because I think that she's probably just like, what do you want from me? I'm not going to shoot a show in my house. That's ridiculous. I'm not taking you inside of my home. And, you know, no, probably she does not go down to the flower shop. But if she's like, well, I'm good at arranging flowers. I have to set up something to shoot the Flowers like I just I don't think she can win, but the show feels really inauthentic. And that type of show is it's it's gone. People don't care about that stuff anymore.

• 32:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so I read this article. This was actually in USA Today. The headline is Duchess Meghan Authenticity and Why She Just Can't Win With Her New Netflix Show. And I like this quote. It says, with love, Meghan suffers from the same image problem that's plagued Meghan and her husband Prince Harry since they stepped down as senior royals in 2020, which is that they want to come off as authentic without actually letting their guard down. Which

• 32:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 32:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not which understandably so that they wouldn't want to let their guard down. It says, for instance, the Duchess acts as hostess to the couple's famous friends, yet the show isn't even filmed at her Southern California home. It's filmed at a nearby rental property. To your point, yes, like she doesn't want him in her home, but like this is still a problem. Like this is still why people don't like it. It says, she doesn't help herself. The fact that she's shooting an at home entertaining lifestyle cooking show in a kitchen that isn't her kitchen is a problem. The fact that they rented basically a set to do a show that's all about the authentic you is a problem, particularly if the visual is meant to give you at her home. So yeah, it's just like, I don't, I'm talking about this with like, kind of a real lack of opinion. It's just kind of like, I see all sides of it. I don't like how much people like to hate, but I understand where it comes from.

• 33:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  And and then, you know, at the end of the article, it just kind of says, it's the same thing that I said, like, do ask yourself why you why you hate her so much? And what it's rooted in. And then I saw another article. This was New York Post, which you know, they love to drag anybody. And it said how much the crew loved working with her and they interviewed a bunch of people. And they said like, I expected to kind of come on the show and feel invisible and I didn't, and she really drew us in. And so, you know, I've you've heard people say she's what someone called her like a dictator in heels before. But then this was this was years ago. I think, I mean, whatever, everyone's going to criticize any sort of powerful woman always. But people said they liked working with her. I mean, who's to say?

• 34:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I think people are just like, don't sell me, what are you, don't sell me this shit.

• 34:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 34:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, I think people with this whole like at home with Meghan, it's not her home. This is not really like that authentic. She's a royal. Let's let people know that she's actually a royal. But like, then you could make a show about how she has all the staff doing all the stuff for her. And people would be like, who's watching this?

• 34:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  That I would watch. Yes. I mean, I, what, yes, okay. So like, what show do you want to watch? Like, clearly Meghan was like, I'm gonna have a show. Netflix is like, you're gonna have a show. She's like, we're gonna, we're gonna do a show. I mean, I'd like to see Prince Harry, obviously.

• 34:48Rayna Greenberg?

  H.

• 34:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, H.

• 34:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Every time she calls him H, I, but I've seen her do this for years.

• 34:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  She is pick me. That's just, it is what it is? That's not, that's not, that's a fact.

• 34:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Some names can't be shortened to a letter. And I used, this used to bother me about Gossip Girl, because like Blair used to call Nate N. N cannot be shortened. Like, R would be really weird.

• 35:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 35:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, M, I could do M, because that actually kind of sounds like a name.

• 35:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  M, yeah. H, you start calling me H.

• 35:16Rayna Greenberg?

  T.

• 35:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I could do T.

• 35:17Rayna Greenberg?

  T.

• 35:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tatiana. Okay, Tatiana. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's just, you know.

• 35:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I do think at its core, it's pretty harmless, and it's just a cooking show. And, I mean, people are talking about her.

• 35:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 35:33Rayna Greenberg?

  And it's been renewed for a second season.

• 35:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like Meghan Markle, Meghan Sussex, sorry, guys. She's gonna be in the news. She was an actress. She married into this family. They left the family. Like, she's got a wild story.

• 35:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 35:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  People want to see her do something. Let her have her little show. Let Netflix decide if this is a show that is worthwhile on their network. I don't know.

• 35:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I have, I have not had this much fun just breaking down a show. It's so long, though. Like, it's, I said to you, it's like, almost like, I just like that. I hated it so much, like, thank God, it's renewed for another season.

• 36:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 36:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I love the memes. It's light. It's harmless. And I understand like, why this got made and how this got made. Juxtaposed to the other reality show that recently came out, The Baldwins, which is about Alec Baldwin and Hilaria, and there are seven kids, eight pets. The article in Vulture also skating, "The Baldwins is grimmer than you imagined." And this is another show that has a real crisis of like, what is this? Because you hear that many, there's this couple, they have 500 kids and pets, and it's like this, the chaos of like, John and Kate plus eight. And you're like, well, is that the route they're gonna take? That's just like crazy all the time. But like, then you have this couple that like, seems to have some real contempt for each other. And it's sort of about that, too. And I mean, she's talking about their life with that accent. Maybe it's fake, maybe it's not.

• 36:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God.

• 36:55Rayna Greenberg?

  This put on. And he says to her, slower, slower. You're speaking English with a Spanish cadence, which is always perilous for me. And he sounds so annoyed with her.

• 37:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ugh.

• 37:05Rayna Greenberg?

  And on top of that, this is a show about manslaughter. I mean, he murdered a woman by accident.

• 37:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 37:12Rayna Greenberg?

  But they layer in stuff about the trial as well. And so you're like, I don't really, why did we make this show?

• 37:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. Like, was it supposed to be like a redemption?

• 37:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it was supposed to be redemption arc and a look behind the curtain. But like, they seem pretty contentious with each other, as would any couple that has 15 mouths to feed. That one of them is on trial for manslaughter for a very serious case. Like, I just, I don't know why, at this point in time, you chose to put your life on television.

• 37:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is this, do you think it's just a cash grab?

• 37:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Probably, but like-

• 37:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, it's just, I mean, does any Baldwin ever really need money? I don't know. Who knows what their situation is. But like, when I see something like that, where you're like, how did this get made? It's like, someone needed money. I don't know.

• 37:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. I mean, people are gonna watch it. And it's crazy to watch. It's just, this is not a time in my marriage I would choose to put on television.

• 38:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm-hmm. Right.

• 38:03Rayna Greenberg?

  And-

• 38:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, let's deal with this privately.

• 38:04Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not like a fun watch, because like, it's a very serious trial that he's going through for killing somebody.

• 38:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm-hmm.

• 38:10Rayna Greenberg?

  So anyways, I gave it a spin. It's not, it's not like fun and gables for me. So I don't know that I'll continue watching it.

• 38:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I might check it out, just to see.

• 38:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I would like you to just, you know what I really like is just being part of pop culture moments. And I like knowing what's going on.

• 38:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay, well, let's briefly recap The Love is Blind reunion, and also the weddings. I mean, the end of the show, essentially.

• 38:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Mm-hmm.

• 38:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  So they had the wedding episode. Of the four couples, Daniel and Taylor ended up getting married. And the other three couples, all the women, decided not to. Two of the women, for political reasons.

• 38:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I'd love to see it.

• 38:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, the theme was just like, these women being like, you're not good enough for me. You're not a match. And I think this is the problem overall with reality TV. These men are not up to par. Is it a red flag that a man wants to go on a reality show in the first place? Yeah, kinda to me. Doesn't have to be. That's just my personal opinion. I don't feel like that about women. I think these women are like, smart and intelligent and well spoken and normal and well adjusted and they really don't seem to be finding men across the board on a lot of shows that are on their level.

• 39:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I agree with you. And I really loved the women on this season. I thought that they like stood on business and really stood up for what they what their beliefs were while simultaneously not humiliating their partners. I mean, I think a lot of them really approached all these like, we don't have the same values necessarily with a lot of kindness and open mindedness and you had the women on the show being like, huh?

• 39:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Minnesota people.

• 39:41Rayna Greenberg?

  They just, they were really nice and didn't like want to humiliate them. And I think repeatedly said, I didn't want to like put him on blast and Joey and Monica, like, you don't find out to the reunion, they like never had a sexual relationship. And she was like, I was clearly in the friend zone the whole time, but like, she didn't make a whole thing about it. Every, like, I thought that they just kinda like kept things really classy the whole season.

• 40:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, but I'm, I'm not joking when I say that's like, probably because of, that's the vibe in that part of the country. You know what I mean? And it's not that they're like pushovers. It's just, yeah, they like wanna keep it respectful, keep it classy, but they're also, like you said, like gonna stand on business and you know, make it clear, like you had questionable values and you're not intelligent enough for me, or curious enough for me, or evolved enough for me. And so I really liked that overall theme. I mean, I just fell in love with Virginia. Like, she started the show just really sweet, kinda ditzy almost. And then she just, as we saw who she really was, I mean, she was just like an absolute like class act. I mean, I was so impressed with her and just the way she

• 40:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  like articulated how she was feeling and about him and still was respectful towards him and She was so measured. I mean, she brought the prenup into the mix. We haven't really seen that on this show.

• 40:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she, she won the reunion. She wiped the floor with that man. And she did it with so much poise, grace. She was so measured. She also did it without really throwing them under the bus. I mean, she's just said, like, I need to be with somebody who cares about LGBTQ rights, the rights of women to do what they want with their bodies, people that care about other people's religions. She said it with so much grace. But also, like, you weren't left being like, I wonder what happened here. I mean, she just ate so hard.

• 41:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  She did, yeah, no crumbs.

• 41:26Rayna Greenberg?

  She looked so beautiful. Every one of those women walked out onto the stage.

• 41:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  They always do.

• 41:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Incredible. And I just, the amount of poise on that stage from every woman just blew me away.

• 41:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I totally agree. Sarah and Ben, I mean, we were talking about it. We thought it was a little strange that they dated post-show. We thought she was done with him. But apparently they tried to. And they shared a story of pretty much the demise of the relationship that I was like, what happened here? Like, I wish Sarah would have had receipts in her armpit like Madison did. But, because she was like talking about them basically gonna like move in together, essentially moved to Nashville together in some capacity, and then he just didn't come. And he's like, I thought we broke up. Like, I was like, what hap- did I miss something here?

• 42:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. It was not explained. And to Nick and Vanessa, that's the only reason they're there is to facilitate understanding this a little bit better.

• 42:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Dude, I thought they did a pretty good job. They, I found them asking questions that I wanted to ask.

• 42:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 42:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I thought they asked him. He was just like, I don't know. I thought that we were broken up. I mean, like, he just was like talking in circles.

• 42:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I really wish I could have been a fly on the wall for that because it's very confusing how two people have the most different experiences in that conversation.

• 42:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  What happened here?

• 42:40Rayna Greenberg?

  One person thought they were moving in together and the other was like, we broke up.

• 42:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  What? She's like, I thought you were on the way to Nashville. He's like, I stopped sharing location. So I thought that was crazy. Um, I wrote another note. I love how Dave had the audacity to say that Lauren was the one that got away and she was like respectfully, you're lying.

• 42:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I love that she said that. He said a lot of stuff being like, after this, I realized what was happening and it's, and I love how some people want to get on reality TV and he's like blaming that other guy essentially for egging this on. And I like how she was just like, no, no, no. Thank you so much.

• 43:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 43:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she just put him in his place while simultaneously also saying, I want to address what everybody is saying about him on the internet, like lay off him a little bit.

• 43:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I watched it with my fiance. Like one of my greatest accomplishments in life is getting him like involved in Love is Blind. And so we've watched the whole season together and I waited till I got home so we could watch this together. And he was like, why do these guys think they can get away with this stuff? Like, why do they think they can like say these things? I mean, even like Joey, like saying the thing about Madison wanting to get with him and they're both like, that's not true. You know, like, he was just like, wait, why do they think they can get away with this? I'm like, why do you guys lie or cheat in general? Like, they don't think about the consequences or they think what I'll do later is deny it.

• 43:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I think that's the thought process. I think that like to sparkleize his point, it's, it's a rational person would say, how do you think you're going to tell these lies and get away with it? But I think these guys are like, because I have before.

• 44:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly. Like he's coming at it from a really incredible person with a good heart who's honest. And so he's like, what the fu- why, why you act like this? It's like, this is not just exclusive to these men on this show. This is how men always act. They think about what they want to accomplish in that moment, whether it's to, not all men, obviously, I'm gonna marry one. Like, just, do I want to fuck this girl? Or do I want to not upset her? Or do I, like, whatever they are trying to accomplish in that moment, they don't think 10 steps down the road like women do. And again, if they do have the foresight, they're thinking like, ah, I'll clean it up when it happens. And these women are like, no, I'm going to hold your feet to the fire.

• 44:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I just think traditionally, celebrity males are the same. Like, they have not been held to the same standard. And we talk about it all the time, like the Justin Timberlake example of how he was like caught cheating on Jessica Biel and he publicly, They apologized and people are like, King.

• 45:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 45:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, I think that we see this all that Matt James, we saw it with him, you know, he publicly broke up with her and posted Rachel Connell and it doesn't seem to me that his following is taking a hit. I look at his comments, they're all positive. He just took down the post that he had written about her and he seems to just be like plugging along, business as usual. Like people just don't want to rip men down the way they want to rip women down.

• 45:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I fucking hate it. But anyway, I just thought that was an interesting observation and they did this, they did a lot on the show. They shot a music video, they had NFL players on Zoom, they were doing the most. Um, but you know, I enjoyed it, but they did do this countdown of five best Love is Blind moments over the whole series. And I agreed with four of their five.

• 45:48Rayna Greenberg?

  They were fine.

• 45:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but we wanted to do our own.

• 45:52Rayna Greenberg?

  So we wrote a list, we did not do top five, we could not be held to that standard.

• 45:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  No way. Okay, so in no particular order, these are our top 15 moments in Love is Blind history.

• 46:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm going to kick off with Jeremy and Sarah Ann on the jet skis, just riding off into the sunset in front of his former fiance.

• 46:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Okay. Season one, Giannina falling in her wedding dress, running away from the altar. She hit the ground hard.

• 46:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I think about it daily.

• 46:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Zenob's cutie gate.

• 46:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Zenob and Cole.

• 46:24Rayna Greenberg?

  And blaming the producers and they were like, uh-uh bitch, we have receipts.

• 46:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  The cuties. I will never forget the cuties and the whole fat shaming of it all.

• 46:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Cuties have never had a moment like this before.

• 46:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Zenob and Cole. Okay.

• 46:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Tiffany falling asleep when Brett, when Brett told her he loved her.

• 46:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Iconic.

• 46:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Just out cold. Okay. Chelsea's Megan Fox comment. I mean, no one in Love is Blind history has gotten dragged that hard. And I will say, I see it. I've always seen it.

• 46:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent. Okay. Zach singing to Irina to propose.

• 46:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you just never want.

• 46:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  So cringe.

• 47:00Rayna Greenberg?

  See a man.

• 47:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I'm going to tag on to here, Zach and Irina not working out and him calling Bliss and now they have a kid.

• 47:07Rayna Greenberg?

  It is pretty, they were the first Love is Blind kid.

• 47:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, right.

• 47:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 47:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 47:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Season one, Jessica feeding wine to her dog. She couldn't do enough to get Mark to break up with her.

• 47:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  What was she just like, he loves, he loves wine?

• 47:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, she just was like pulling out all the stops to get him to break up with her. She also was like, you also can't see your family.

• 47:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay. Deep D's iconic speech at the altar.

• 47:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Deep D chose Deep D.

• 47:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  When she was like, I choose me and shake. He was the worst. So we love that.

• 47:37Rayna Greenberg?

  People have tried to recreate that moment and they can't do it.

• 47:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  They can't. They'll never.

• 47:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Carlton throwing his ring in the pool, season one also. I mean, he is just yelling at Diamond. That's her name, right? And he takes that diamond and toss it in the pool. Do you think every producer just dove right in after?

• 47:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did he really throw it in the pool?

• 47:53Rayna Greenberg?

  He picked, he took it off and chucked it.

• 47:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. And she was, he was crashing out and she was just like, fuck you. Didn't he say something about her hair? Like, he was like, getting really mean.

• 48:03Rayna Greenberg?

  He was getting really mean because she didn't, he had admitted that he was bisexual and she was just asking questions.

• 48:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay. Probably one of my number one Roman empires, it was when they tried to do a live finale. Netflix could not handle a live stream.

• 48:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Have you ever been on so many group chats, all of your friends being like, or can you guys download? I just remember me and like four other girls were like, I got it. Wait, no, I didn't. It started. No, it didn't.

• 48:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. I was like, I'm on my laptop. I'm on my phone. I'm on my TV, like trying to get this to work. And then to tag on to that Vanessa just being completely unhinged because she was live. She was not made to be live. She was not prepared to be live. That was insane.

• 48:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Someone had to talk with her after that and they were like, get your shit together.

• 48:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I loved it. I miss it all the time. I wish she would go back to that.

• 48:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I love it all the time. Somebody's like so messy. I'm like, this is terrible and thank God for them. Jessica talking to Jimmy, her, you're gonna choke when you see what I look like speech.

• 49:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're gonna need your EpiPen.

• 49:02Rayna Greenberg?

  And she, and she said it's in an interview after, she was like, I had no idea this was even gonna be a thing.

• 49:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 49:09Rayna Greenberg?

  It just, I loved it. I loved the confidence.

• 49:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  This was their number one moment that they voted on by Love is Blind fans that they said on the, on the reunion was, that was the number one. Okay. Izzy not having dishes. Izzy and what was her name?

• 49:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Chelsea.

• 49:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stacy. Stacy.

• 49:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stacy goes to his place. He has red solo cups. Not a dish to be found.

• 49:36Rayna Greenberg?

  It was like, do you live here?

• 49:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  That was a whole, and there was a whole thing. And he, he was just a broke bitch.

• 49:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, there's a second part.

• 49:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 49:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Of this.

• 49:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  His lost and found drawer?

• 49:45Rayna Greenberg?

  That was nuts. His whole apartment tour was nuts.

• 49:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, his apartment tour, his home tour.

• 49:50Rayna Greenberg?

  You didn't need to show somebody that.

• 49:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 49:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, okay, Steven, um, in the previous season, sexting during a sleep test.

• 49:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Steven and Monica. Sexting what? Like crazy kinky stuff while he was supposed to be... Did we ever realize was he really at the sleep test?

• 50:06Rayna Greenberg?

  So she has said, I do actually think he was at the sleep test. I was, I said, I, as someone who knows people that have gone to sleep tests, it doesn't sound possible to me, but she says he was at one. Um, the other moment between the two of them that was really funny was her, would him being like, I know you don't want something super nice. Like, uh, what did she say?

• 50:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cape Spade.

• 50:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Cape Spade bag. And she was like, skirt? What? Broke ass bitch.

• 50:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it was really snobby.

• 50:33Rayna Greenberg?

  It was super snobby.

• 50:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's doubled down on it even in a same snobby way.

• 50:39Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, it's one of these, it's an example of a time that somebody else is gonna out terrible you. And so what you do is not gonna like get a bunch of heat.

• 50:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  It just, Kate Spade gate, yeah. Okay. And the number one, this is a sweet one, but this is still my number one moment in Love is Blind history, and it's Lauren and Cameron's proposal.

• 50:56Rayna Greenberg?

  First proposal in the history of the show.

• 50:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't know that was happening.

• 51:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I still remember you telling me about it.

• 51:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  You would fall asleep. We were in Australia. Marilyn and I stayed up to watch this. This was February 2020. And I was like, oh, what is this show? I knew some people on it from Atlanta. I was, the first season was filmed in Atlanta. I was like, I'll give this a spin. When he proposed through the wall, I'm like, what?

• 51:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I still remember the next morning, you were like, people are proposing on this show. Like someone got engaged last night.

• 51:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I was like, and then I was like sobbing because I love them. And I was like, so now what? And I was like, wait, Rainy, you're not gonna believe this. So here's how they get to meet is they get engaged and then they get out of the pods. You were like, what are you saying?

• 51:38Rayna Greenberg?

  The way you were like, someone proposed on this show. Show.

• 51:45Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy and it's really pretty amazing. I will say, so this is the five year anniversary of Love is Blind, five year anniversary of COVID. Um, the five year anniversary of Love is Blind, and they did a whole roundup at the end of the finale of all these couples that are still married, that have had kids together now. And I just found it really heartwarming and special.

• 52:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. So those are our moments. We know we forgot some. This is like our favorite show. And we just wanted to kind of talk about what else we've been watching really quickly. I mean, again, I was sick for a week and so watched a ton of TV. I love Apple Cider Vinegar. This is on Netflix. It's a dramatization based on a true story about this woman named Belle Gibson, who was an Australian influencer. I mean, she became an influencer. She lied about having a brain tumor and just the other storylines surrounding it that were also loosely based on the truth in terms of like some women that had cancer. I mean, I was riveted.

• 52:39Rayna Greenberg?

  And I watched a documentary about her that I thought actually left some stuff to be desired, I guess. Um, so I loved Apple Cider Vinegar. Just like the power of influence and really making sure that like the people you're following are truthful.

• 52:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm hmm.

• 52:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought it was great on Netflix and it's a great watch. And you told me about Running Point, which is the Kate Hudson show. It's, it's basically her family is owns the Lakers. They call them the Waves. Um, but it's funny, it's sharp, and it's about her and her siblings running this. And it's like, it's almost like a comedy version of Succession.

• 53:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love it so much. And I forgot how funny Kate Hudson is. I've just missed Kate Hudson. Like Kate Hudson is just like a rom com goat. Like she's so funny or comedic timing. Like I've just, I'm laughing out loud at the show. I really, really love it. I think Chet Hanks is an insane casting as the point guard on the team. Jay Ellis is so hot. He's the coach. He's, he's definitely a hall pass for me. But just Kate Hudson. I'm like, man, I've really missed her. And I'm just loving her in this role. I'm just finding the show to be such a fun watch. And, um, we wanted to recommend our friend Giulio Gallerati's special. He was on the podcast years. ago and he put out a special, you can watch it on YouTube.

• 53:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's really so wonderful. I mean, we and other people call him the most interesting man in the world. Like truly, like the way that he has traveled, like he, he travels to a lot of places that people like would say like, you shouldn't go there, like Afghanistan, you know, like he has these insane travel stories. I love hearing about him and his now wife. I think they were engaged when he shot the special. Um, and they got married in November. We couldn't go to the wedding. We were devastated. We had a show, but I just, I really love it. I mean, he talks about this story about hanging out with the Taliban. Like who hangs out with the Taliban, who's hanging out with the Taliban lives to tell about it? Like he, he'd said this thing. He's like, when you hang out with the Taliban, they, they want to ask you a lot of questions about the Taliban. So they'll be like, what do you think about the Taliban?

• 54:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  He has it on his Instagram. It's so, so funny and he's just so warm and such like a positive energy. You know, like if you want to watch a comedian that's really been doing it a long time and is, you know, really smooth and polished and also just really warm and funny, obviously, and has stories like you've never heard before. I really highly recommend the special. It's called On The Map and like I mentioned, you guys can just watch it on YouTube. He shot it at the Den in Chicago, which is where I'm kicking my tour off. So this is the theater that I performed at before. I love it so much. It's an amazing place to shoot a special. I love the room. You've been to it. Um, so I just, I love that too. So I'll be at the Den in a few weeks, starting on April 4th. So lots of stuff for you guys to watch. Oh, I also watched Starting Five, uh, which is a sports series that follows LeBron,

• 55:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jimmy Butler, Anthony Edwards, Demontas Sabonis and Jason Tatum, like the stars of the NBA.

• 55:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I love that.

• 55:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Through the 23, 24 NBA season.

• 55:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Where is it on?

• 55:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  On Netflix.

• 55:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, great.

• 55:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a good sports show.

• 55:35Rayna Greenberg?

  You just played a TV game recently.

• 55:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 55:37Rayna Greenberg?

  All right. Well, lots of stuff for you guys to watch. All right. And, um, just to wrap up the episode, here's some other headlines for your week, just stuff that you should be in the know about. We're not going to dive into them, but just, you know, we want to be your number one news source. So Olivia Culpo is pregnant with her first child. Um, she got married semi recently. She's expecting her first baby with Christian McCaffrey.

• 55:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  And your next headline is the cop who arrested Justin Timberlake in the Hamptons for a DUI was just named Officer of the Year. All right.

• 56:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Great.

• 56:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 56:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Anna Kendrick, so the Blake Lively's new movie, I think it's called A Simple Favor.

• 56:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Another Simple Favor.

• 56:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Another Simple Favor premiered at South by this week. Actually, her and Blake Lively were on the red carpet together. Anna Kendrick had only three words to say about working with Blake Lively. I think a reporter asked, how did it go? And she just said, oh, you know.

• 56:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you know.

• 56:27Speaker 02

  Anna, what does it mean to be working with Blake again? We're talking about you.

• 56:31Rayna Greenberg?

  And was she really responding to that? I mean, whatever. I watched the clip a bunch of times and basically they're like, what's it like working with Blake Lively again? And she goes, oh, you know.

• 56:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  And just like keeps it moving.

• 56:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Keeps it moving. I've one more to throw in.

• 56:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 56:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Which is Jax Taylor publicly came out as being a cocaine addict. He says he's 100 days sober and Brittany Cartwright hit back essentially with like, too little too late.

• 56:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 56:53Rayna Greenberg?

  You've traumatized me and my child all these years. So we wish him well and a great road to recovery, but big story this week.

• 57:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. And on that note, James Kennedy took a picture with the Tate brothers, said he didn't know about them.

• 57:05Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 57:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  And he has since apologized. Did you see this?

• 57:08Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 57:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's like, ah, Tate brothers.

• 57:11Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 57:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, don't get me started. Okay. And lastly, Kylie Jenner and White Lotus star Carrie Coon agree you should be using nipple cream on your lips.

• 57:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Stay hydrated. Everywhere stay hydrated.

• 57:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  This makes so much sense. If it's good for your cracked nipples, it's good for your cracked lips.

• 57:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely.

• 57:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I am going to be doing this. My lips are always so chapped.

• 57:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Lube it up.

• 57:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like I, whatever women are using on their cracked tits when they're breastfeeding, I, because I know that that happens. I feel for them. Yes, I'm going to be putting that on my lips.

• 57:44Rayna Greenberg?

  I put bio oil still on my scars too. That's a little, little tipster for you guys.

• 57:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  And maybe we'll make a nipple cream slash lip gloss.

• 57:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 57:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right, guys. Well, that's your headlines.

• 57:54Rayna Greenberg?

  All right.

• 57:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  You can find us at girlsgottaeat.com, Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess, Reina is Reina Duck Greenberg, Vibes Only. Again, we still have that giveaway going on, vibesonly.com, Vibes Only on Instagram. You can check it out for the giveaway rules and subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

• 58:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Happy week, guys.

• 58:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.