Bonus Episode: The Greatest Band That Never Was

This week in the after party, Jake looks at the bands that could've been huge, but never were, and hears from you on the subject. Plus, Jake talks about the challenge of writing the upcoming Brian Wilson episode and dishes on his surprisingly growing admiration for Jimmy Buffet. On Tuesday, we're bringing you part 2 of our Motley Crue episode, focusing on Nikki Sixx. Jake wants to know: Was Motley Crue the greatest hair metal band? And if you dislike hair metal, are there any hair metal bands that you kinda maybe sorta could like? Share your thoughts at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 42 - Madonna https://www.disgracelandpod.com/042/madonna Episode 65 - The Misfits https://www.disgracelandpod.com/065/the-misfits Episode 94 - Tom Petty https://www.disgracelandpod.com/094/tom-petty Episode 137 - New Order https://www.disgracelandpod.com/137/new-order To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is exactly right.

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• 1:22Speaker 02

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• 1:43Jake Brennan?

  Hey, Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand: The Afterparty.

• 2:09Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the Disgrace Land bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgrace Land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're talking about this week's full episode subject, The Replacements. We're rewinding with the Guns N' Roses, parts one and two stories from our archive, previewing our new upcoming episode on Nicky Six, and we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. Disgrace Land is for the obsessed, the overlooked, the outsiders who know that the best stories are the ones that got buried. If that's you, then you belong right here in the after-party.

• 2:54Jake Brennan?

  All right, this goes, let's get into it.

• 3:07Jake Brennan?

  When I first heard The Replacements in high school, it was what older kids listened to, and by older kids, I mean kids who seemed both smart and dangerous. Kids from my town who went to college but still had cool vintage cars and hot girlfriends, but Molly Ringwald hot, not Cindy Crawford hot. The point is, what These Replacements listening dudes had was different from what my punk rock listening friends had. It seemed more adult and fun, and like I said, somehow smart, too. Smarter than the Misfits and Suicidal Tendencies, anyway, despite Gary and his boner. So I gravitated toward these kids and of course, toward The Replacements. Now, given how fucked up The Replacements were and how good their songs were and what

• 3:52Jake Brennan?

  the dudes who were listening to The Replacements were reaping, I thought, I fucking love this band, and I thought, I can do this. And of course, I couldn't. Not with that level of brilliance. Turns out it's really hard to be wasted all the time and brilliant. Just ask Bob Stinson. Now, The Replacements were mythic before they even got big. And maybe that was the problem. Because in living up to that myth, they paid a very, very, very steep price. We, of course, detail that reckoning in our new episode this week on The Replacements, the greatest band that never was. They never reached the rock and roll heights they were promised and that their great songs promised us.

• 4:33Jake Brennan?

  And some say they should have been akin to what Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers were. I don't believe that. I think The Replacements should have been the Rolling Stones. The songs were that good and so were the albums. And here's where The Replacements had Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers beat. The individual members of the Mats had more charisma than the Heartbreakers, just like the Rolling Stones. And maybe that's why Tom Petty had The Replacements thrown off tour with him, but probably not. Never mind any of that. Doesn't matter. Some of you will say, and I kind of agree with you, who cares? The Replacements made great music. Mainstream rock and roll stardom doesn't matter.

• 5:18Jake Brennan?

  And this is true. But there's a weird sort of generational representation that shines on the fans of a very small handful of bands. Your Rolling Stones, Nirvana, et cetera. Okay, those precious few bands who completely embody everything there is to say about a generation. The Replacements had that level of rock stardom waiting for them and they fucked themselves out of it. And yes, it's beyond cool to have seen The Replacements at the Rat in Kenmore Square back in 1984, but wouldn't it be cooler to be telling your kid that this summer at Gillette Stadium while watching The Replacements storm through decades of hits that now speak to generations? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not.

• 6:03Jake Brennan?

  I like to think so, anyway. Not everything needs to be gate-kept. We have plenty of Smiths and Minutemen and Sonics and Joy Divisions. So many bands that were great, but never cemented their greatness across generations at scale or whatever. I feel like The Replacements could have been truly iconic. I had Skyway on the stereo yesterday while driving to the basketball court with my 70 year old son and he asked me to play Fleetwood Mac's Everywhere. I wonder what Paul Westerberg thinks of that. I don't know, but I bet somehow he gets it. Anyway, speaking of icons, Oasis, the reunion shows are happening. Were any of you there? Any of you at all last weekend at the gig? UK listeners, I know you're out there.

• 6:47Jake Brennan?

  You're the third biggest country for disgracing listeners. Someone out there is listening to this who was at that show. And if it was you, you are, as they say across the pond, a fucking legend. So call me and give me the review. 617-906-6638. Sabbath just played as well last weekend, their last show, the day after Oasis. I saw some of the footage online, looks incredible. Maybe you were there instead of Oasis. And if you were, you know how to get in touch as well. I want your review too. And I wanted to know if seeing Oasis or Black Sabbath made you feel like the dirty rock and roll animals you were back in high school? These are the important questions that we need to answer, Disco. So, so hit me up. Sean Combs still in jail. And boy, did I blow that one last week. I was convinced the judge was gonna let him skate, but looks like he's in the huskow until sentencing on October 3rd.

• 7:32Jake Brennan?

  I still don't think he's gonna do serious time. It's a chance. I'm not saying this is gonna happen, but there's a chance he could just get time served and just walk in October. We shall see. I finished writing my Brian Wilson episode on Friday, um, actually on Saturday. I can't tell if it's good or not. Might've been the hardest episode I've ever written. I'll tell you more about it in a couple of weeks when it's released. I'm reading about Jimmy Buffett and man, oh man, was this dude not the droid I was looking for. I don't think I've ever been more interested in an artist whose music, uh, I just don't like. That said, those first three records are starting to get their hooks into me.

• 8:14Jake Brennan?

  And if you have partial punk rock indie snob blood running through your veins like I do, I promise you, you're going to love the Jimmy Buffett story that I'm going to tell you. Don't believe me, just wait. Story is not what you think. It is so much more. What else is going on? My favorite character in the Chris Whitaker book that I'm reading that I've been telling you guys about, he just died. And honestly, I feel like I need to find a way to process my grief here. Maybe a mock cremation, a pirate's funeral perhaps? I don't know. It bummed me the fuck out, man. You ever have that happen to you? You're reading your book and you're just, no, don't do, wait, what the, what are you doing, man? And then it happens and you're like, shit, now I get the entire third act to go. And the dude's just not there, man. He's gone, okay? There's no bringing him back either. It's not that type of book.

• 8:56Jake Brennan?

  Whittaker's book, the one I'm reading is called We Begin at the End. His new book, which I can't recall the name of at the moment, is number three on the Time's bestseller list. So I could just read that next, but I've got Tom McGowan's Nobody's Angel queued up next to pair with my upcoming trip to Montana at the end of the month. Hopefully that book will come with less fictional grief. We shall see. I've got Turnstile, the new Turnstile record on my turntable, and no matter what I do, I can't get it off. I cannot, I can't stop listening to this record. It's never enough listening to the Turnstile record. See what I did there? I'll have more on Turnstile in the exclusive section of this bonus episode,

• 9:39Jake Brennan?

  as well as a little bit more on my time on tour with Tommy Stinson from The Replacements. That'll come up later in the show. After that, next up in your feed after this episode, we're revisiting Guns N' Roses, Parts One and Two, tracing their rise, of course, Slash and Izzy's 80s and 90s awesomeness in the weird, strange, juvenile, delinquent id of Axl Rose. And then next week, quick refresher on our OG Motley Crue episode on Monday to set the groundwork for our Part Two Crew episode on Nikki Sixx entirely. Yes, the Nikki Sixx story is so out of control. The two episodes were needed to get into all of it. Thanks to Disco Chris On It for pushing me on this one. When you're listening to that Nikki Sixx episode, guys, be thinking about this question. Is Motley Crue the greatest hair metal band

• 10:24Jake Brennan?

  of all time? Which glam band makes you want to drive faster, drink more, stay out later, never leave that kegger out in the woods? I want to know. And if you can't stand hair metal, which hair band do you kind of sort of maybe think is all right? You might not like Poison, but you can tolerate Hanoi Rocks. I don't know. You tell me. Call or text 617-906-6638. We'll feature your picks in the next after-party. All right, that's everything that's in my head. I gotta take a break. I need some tea. I need to drink a little water. I'll be back in a minute with your voicemails and your texts.

• 11:05Speaker 04

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• 11:43Speaker 02

  it may be time to try something else. Extenture is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extenture is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection, common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or flulike symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur.

• 12:25Speaker 02

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• 12:45Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. Apple Podcast listeners, remember, make sure you got auto downloads turned on so the disgrace and finds you every morning. You don't have to go looking for it. It's just gonna be right there in your RSS feed waiting for you every episode. All right. 617-906-6638. You know where I'm at, I'm in the phone booth. This is one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail or a text? Get at me, 617-906-6638. The question of the week we're answering this week has to do with the replacements. I asked you guys, are they, I forget how I phrased it, but it was basically like, you know, what band besides the replacements should have been huge but was not? This call comes from the 270.

• 13:25Speaker 05

  270 Todd, I love this question. Hope I'm not too late for it. I'm gonna go with the Replacements, which is the subject matter of your show. Also, honorable mentions will go to the New York Dolls, who you have spoke about before. So influential, Kiss, Aerosmith. Most of the hair metal bands owe something to the New York Dolls, as we all know, and they just never really sold that many albums. I'm biased because I love them. Honorable mentions will go to Screamin' Trees, part of Mark Lanigan, in my opinion, one of the best bands from Seattle, if not the best.

• 14:08Speaker 05

  Love the questions, love the content. Thank you, Jake. See ya.

• 14:12Jake Brennan?

  All right, Todd, thanks, man. I appreciate you, well, digging into the theme here, Replacements, of course, and I like your New York Dolls suggestion as well. I also like the Mark Lanigan Screamin' Trees piece of it all because we've got a Lanigan episode coming up. I think next, no, Nikki Sixx is next, and then I think after that, or two after that, is our Mark Lanigan story. So that's coming down the pike. Just for you. See, we did that for you specifically. No, we didn't, but you know, we did. Let's check out this voicemail from the 781.

• 14:40Speaker 06

  Hey Jake, Chris here in the 781. I'm an unapologetic Replacements fan, so I had the pleasure of meeting Paul a couple of times, such a great guy. I think they were severely underrated and underappreciated, especially during their heyday. See what I did there? They were in the middle of the synth pop and hair metal 80s. There's a couple of bands, though, that I think about that really should have been bigger, or even marginally successful. One band out of Boston was Berlin Airlift, later morphed into Berlin the Movie. Maybe the greatest band I've ever seen in my life, in my opinion. Also, two other bands from Boston that are severely underrated or underappreciated.

• 15:24Speaker 06

  One would be the Del Fuegos, and the other, the legendary Neighborhoods. Of course, Dave Minahan ended up playing with Paul in a solo band, and of course, later in the 2013 Replacements tour. Great episode. I love the mats, love what you do. Rock and roll, buddy.

• 15:44Jake Brennan?

  Chris, rock and roll. Thank you so much. Great call. Um, yeah, man. I felt like the replacements were good enough to transcend all the hair metal bullshit that was going on in the eighties. And, you know, we, I don't know if we agree or differ on this, but I think the level of self sabotage from the band itself has more to do with their, um, their lack of, of a breakthrough than the actual scene that was going on at the time. Uh, love, love the Boston Rex here on bands who should have been bigger. Berlin Airlift, was that Rick Berlin's band? I never saw Berlin Airlift or Berlin the movie, but I think that's Rick Berlin's band. And I've, I've seen Rick Berlin perform numerous times. I've even met him once or twice. Super nice guy.

• 16:27Jake Brennan?

  Back when I was a doorman for the Lizard Lounge, way back in the day. What a fun gig that was. Let's see, what else? What else you got here? What else to talk about? Oh, yeah. Of course you talk about the Del Fuegos. I was just listening to the Del Fuegos the other day. Listening to, uh, some eighties quote unquote, college rock. Had a mix going, started by, uh, the Long Riders, not from Boston, but a great band and pulled up some great Del Fuego stuff. I was listening to the Del Fuegos way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way back in the day when they were actually happening, when they were being played on FNX. I think they're even being played on BCN at the time. I remember the girl I was seeing, uh, back in sixth grade, my girlfriend, she lived at the top of this hill,

• 17:07Jake Brennan?

  like really high up in Clinton and from her house, you could actually get the WFNX signal. And it was fantastic because you, I, you listen to the Del Fuegos, you get all kinds of stuff. It was great. And I still love them, still listen to them. Don't run wild, baby. And, uh, of course Neighborhood's one of the most incredible Boston bands of all time. And has there ever been a more suitable replacement for Bob Stinson's energy and mad cap? Rock and roll stage presence than one sir Dave Minahan of the Neighborhoods. Guy is a beast on stage. Just incredible. Great call, Chris. Appreciate you. Real quick from the 310, all the way out on the west coast. Here we go.

• 17:49Speaker 06

  Jake.

• 17:51Speaker 07

  Jake Disgrace Land, Trace Marshall. Aloha.

• 17:56Speaker 07

  Bands that should have been bigger. Question. Love from Los Angeles. The greatest of all time. Arthur Lee and Love. It should be an episode. Good man.

• 18:09Jake Brennan?

  Aloha, Mr. Hand. I don't disagree with you and Arthur Lee and Love should absolutely be an episode. There's some cool juicy criminality going on there. I think there's a connection between Arthur Lee or Someone in Love and Bobby Bolcellet from the Manson family. And there's even more juicy criminality going on, stuff going on there with that story. But yeah, love, love. Just every, you know, this happens to me. It's happened to me my whole life. There's a mix going on. I'm somewhere, I'm in a bar, I'm whatever. I've just got a playlist going at home with stuff I haven't heard before and something comes on and I'm like, what the fuck is this? This is great. And it's Love. That's happened to me so many times. That's the type of band there. Incredible band. Appreciate you. 310-574 text in. Hey,

• 18:52Jake Brennan?

  Jake. This is Michael from Mishawaka, Indiana. If I had to pick a band that should have been big, I'd pick Mute Math. Thanks. Love the podcast. I've never heard of Mute Math. Tell me where to start. Okay. Are they like a math rock band? Are they one of those bands that, you know, the guy looks like he works in IT, he's got a strap on a guitar, get on stage, and then the pit's going to get really fucking violent? Is that the type of thing we're looking at here? Paige Hamilton vibes? What are we looking at? Who's Mute Math? How have I not heard this before? 440 writes in, hey Jake, love this week's episode on The Replacements. As for an answer to this week's question, I have to go with Michael Stanley. Michael, along with his band, The Michael Stanley Band are rock royalty in northeast Ohio,

• 19:35Jake Brennan?

  but outside of that, he's virtually unknown despite having collaborated with Joe Walsh, Todd Rundgren, and others. Had a couple of top 40 hits in the early 80s, and Michael even had a cameo in The Drew Carey Show, episode where Drew is auditioning people for his band, but alas, never ascended to the levels of rock stardom he deserved. Love the show. Michael Stanley, it's like on the edge of recognition for me, like right there at that, the recognition part of my brain. It's like, it's like teary, like I can almost recall who Michael Stanley and the Michael Stanley band is, but then I think, wait, was he in Scorpions? No, of course he was not in the Scorpions. I don't know. Michael Stanley. Yeah, I guess. Hit me up. I don't know anything about Michael Stanley. I like these recommendations of artists that I've never heard of before,

• 20:18Jake Brennan?

  or can't recall, I should say. Appreciate you guys. 617-906-6638. On the voicemail and the text, @disgracelandpod. You want to hit me up on Instagram, I'll answer you over there. You want to hit me up on TikTok, I'll hit you back there. Same as on Facebook, same with X, @disgracelandpod. You can also email me, [email protected]. Jason Hunt writes in, "Nice, short and sweet, Jason. Love it. Would love a deep dive on Andrew Wood and Mother Lovebone." You know, this is one of those, I gotta do it. I gotta do it sooner or later. People frickin' love this guy, love this band. This gets requested so much. Maybe that'll be coming up next. I'm not sure. We're trying to balance out our schedule right now. We shall see. Thanks for the email, Jason.

• 21:00Jake Brennan?

  This email comes from Nicholas Phillips. Nicholas says, "Hey there." It's Nicholas from 713 Houston. "The band that should have been huge to me was The Wildhearts, formed in 1989, Newcastle, England. From initially coming into the music scene, they have always managed to just fall short of breaking through, usually by their own volition, and have enough stories that they would make a great subject to Disgraceland. For over the years, there have been lineup changes, drug and alcohol problems, mental health issues, which has led to such things as the band trashing the offices of Kerrang! magazine, having to drop out of a US tourist supporting ACDC bassist Danny McCormick, having his leg amputated, and I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at that, just laughing at the laundry list of insanity here, and singer Ginger Wildheart spending time in a Thai jail. Somehow, the band is still going, having released their

• 21:44Jake Brennan?

  new album, The Satanic Rights of The Wildhearts, to critical acclaim. So, if you fancy listening to a band that sounds like the bastard child of a three-way between Metallica, The Beatles, and Sex Pistols, you are in for a treat. Keep up the good work and rock-a-rola. Nick." Nick, thanks, brother. Never heard of The Wildhearts. How's that possible?

• 22:04Jake Brennan?

  Can't catch it all, Nick. You know, I do my best. I try. That's what I have you guys for. You know, help fill in the gaps. All right, guys, be like Nick. Be like the other callers, the texters, the emailers. Okay. Maybe you've been sitting on the fence, listening and going like, shit, man, I really enjoy when people call in and Jake engages with them, but I never call myself. Or you might say, uh, you know, maybe say like, god damn, I really want to tell this story, thing that happened to me that I saw when I was at that show back in high school. Or maybe you just read a great book. I don't know, great bio biography, autobiography on an artist. And there's some stuff in there that I'm not aware of. And you think, yeah, Jake,

• 22:47Jake Brennan?

  Jake, Jake's got a whole research team behind him. He knows all this stuff. Why would I tell him? I don't know all this stuff. And yeah, we have people who do research, my dad. But you know, my dad's busy. He's got shit going on. He doesn't even listen to the podcast. Works for us, doesn't listen to the podcast. What's that all about? I don't know. Someone tell my dad to listen to the podcast. Anyhow, if that's you, if you guys got shit to say, I want you to know, I want to hear your voice. Your voice helps prompt me to dig in, to try and uncover the stories that get buried. The real stories. Sometimes there's stories, like I said, that I'm not even aware are there. And sometimes there's stories with narratives that are just too fucking convenient and not nearly as interesting and entertaining as the truth. And you guys, as I mentioned earlier in the B block, when talking about Nikki six,

• 23:32Jake Brennan?

  and I mentioned Disco Chris on it, you guys sometimes propel me to find these stories and to bring them to the forefront. So 617-906-6638. Don't sit on the fence. Give us a call. Send us a text, email us, [email protected]. All right, let's dive into our 60 second sports rant in under 30 seconds. Okay, Brian Baio's complete game gem for the Red Sox this week aside, this, this is how uninteresting the Red Sox have become for me this year. I'm about to talk about sailing. Okay, sort of. This week, 23 years ago, on July 7, 2002 NBA player

• 24:14Jake Brennan?

  Dele, is that how you say his name? D E L E vanished on a Tahitian sailing trip. How the hell am I just learning about this now? Dele dated Madonna for crap's sakes. It's believed this guy, this NBA player, was murdered at sea. This story is nuts and it is way too much to get into in under 30 seconds, but we will eventually get into it in sports land. Moral of the story, if you're in the NBA and dating Madonna, be careful out there on the high seas and be more interesting if you're on the Red Sox. All right. Matt, how did you? Did I beat the buzzer?

• 24:47Speaker 08

  Jake, I'm going to give you a partial credit this week. You came in under a minute, but not under 30 seconds. You were about 48 seconds there. So partial credit and yeah, Bison Dele, that is a crazy story. The former Brian Williams, he was on the Chicago Bulls championship team and I want to say 97 before he changed his name to Bison Dele. And yeah, it's a crazy story. We gotta get into that one for sure.

• 25:16Jake Brennan?

  I'm going to take a very short break. I will be back in a flash.

• 25:26Speaker 01

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• 25:54Speaker 02

  Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extenture, Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting, it may be time to try something else. Extenture is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extenture is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  Report if you have a parasitic infection, common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or flulike symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extensure. Learn more at extensure.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 27:02Jake Brennan?

  All right, guys, we're back, back with you here in the after-party. Want to bring your attention real quick to the Hollywood Land podcast where this week we are featuring Sharon Stone. That's right, the one and only Sharon Stone from Casino to Cannibalism and back again. What you're asking yourself, what the hell is that all about? Well, I'm telling you, man, you're just gonna have to go listen. Subscribe to Hollywood Land, okay? Go to your RSS, go to whatever podcast player you use, Spotify, Apple, whatever it is. Search for Hollywood Land, give that a follow. True Crime Lens on this Sharon Stone story is intense, of course, as I've been telling you guys for the last few weeks, Zeth and I are deep into these episodes in our Hollywood Land Rap Party bonus episodes.

• 27:45Jake Brennan?

  Those drop every Wednesday where every week you get another bite at getting your voicemails and texts heard and played. And you also get some movie-related music recs from yours truly. I gotta say, recording that segment of the Rap Party with Zeth is one of my favorite work things to do every week now because I get to talk about music just for almost freely. I know it's tied to Sharon's, to whatever the actresses that were, or actor or director that were featuring in Hollywood Land that week, but I find ways to hop, skip and jump around and get to what just I want to talk about musically.

• 28:27Jake Brennan?

  And it's exercising this muscle that I don't have anymore because I don't, I don't go to parties and just, or go to the bar anymore and just sort of like. Talk shit about music. I guess I do it in a much more formulaic and structured way in Disgrace Land, but the conversation with Zeth is pretty free flowing around the recommendations and I really look forward to it. Matt is gonna queue up a little, I don't know if he'll play that part of the rap party for you, but Matt, give a little taste. I'm gonna stop talking here.

• 28:59Speaker 09

  Jake, as always, I'm gonna start with you. What music recommendations are you bringing this week?

• 29:03Jake Brennan?

  Share Your Love by Aretha Franklin. Just a fantastic song. I think it's a Bobby Blue Bland song. I'm not exactly sure, but Google this song, also early 70s, I believe. And it's, it's the perfect sort of like deep cut Aretha that'll make you go like, how the fuck do I not know this song? And it's so great. She has, her greatness is so great that like the shit no one pays attention to is greater than everything else. That's the type of artist she is. She's amazing. And this song is indicative of, I think, that exact point.

• 29:38Speaker 09

  I don't know what that, what record that's from, but I discovered only recently her album, Let Me In Your Life, which is, that's the title of a Bill Withers song, which I think opens the record. And it's one, it's sort of outside that like quote unquote classic period, you know, of like respect and thank and all that stuff. So I always kind of ignored it. I was actually in my local record store and the owner was playing it and he was like, do you know this? And I said, no. And he was like, it's fucking great. And so I bought it. And it's, it's amazing. Like, but to your point, she is so great. There's so much stuff hiding in plain sight that she did. It's amazing.

• 30:11Jake Brennan?

  All right. So that's the rap party, part of the Hollywood land experience. If you want more storytelling, like we do here in Disgrace Land, get over to Hollywood land and subscribe. I was talking about recommendations. Another music rec, I mentioned Turnstile earlier in the, in the beginning of this episode. I got, I got the record right up here on top of my desk with, what else I got here? Bone Machine, Tom Waits.

• 30:37Jake Brennan?

  DJ Shadow introducing great CD. These are CDs, by the way. Turnstile is the album is vinyl. I'm going to be talking about Turnstile, the new record, the band and the replacements in the exclusive section of this episode coming up very shortly. Five bucks is going to get you access to that. The all access portion of the after party. It's where we go a little deeper into the music and the music myths that we're exploring. If you're near stalker level obsessed with the artists that we're covering. If you're in need of just a touch more nitty gritty around these stories. If you want a deeper, sometimes darker, sometimes more personal look into my head

• 31:17Jake Brennan?

  and how I see these stories and how I build them in part, sometimes with your help. Then go to disgracelandpod.com/membership and become a member today and get, like I said, the exclusive portion of this episode, but also an extra full episode per month. This month, we're featuring Alice Cooper and maybe the best part of becoming a member for just $5 a month is you get all this content, all these episodes ad free. Remember today and get, like I said, the exclusive portion of this episode, but also an extra full episode per month. This month, we're featuring Alice Cooper and maybe the best part of becoming a member for just $5 a month is you get all this content, all these episodes ad free.

• 32:12Jake Brennan?

  All right, discos, we are back. Thank you for hanging out with me in the after party today. I really appreciate it. Listen, if you're new here, I say this every week. I'm gonna say it again. We've got about 240 episodes on a gazillion different musicians, artists in the disgraceland archive. If you need any help finding any of those subjects, people you're interested in that you want to hear episodes on, hit me up and let me know. You know how to get in touch with me, 617-906-6638. The archive is deep. It can be hard to find your way around. This week, we talked about in this episode, we mentioned Madonna. We mentioned Joy Division and we mentioned The Misfits. We mentioned Tom Petty, of course. We have episodes on three of those four. We don't have a Joy Division episode.

• 32:54Jake Brennan?

  We have a New Order episode, of course, Misfits, Tom Petty and Madonna, like I said. And Matt will have the show info on those episodes in the show notes. Of this bonus episode, make it easy for you to find. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week's full episode on The Replacements is live and waiting for you right now. Number two, next up in your feed, we are rewinding with our Guns N' Roses, Parts One and Two, episodes. Number three, up next week, a brand new episode on Nicky Six coming your way on Tuesday. Number four, over in the Hollywoodland feed, Sharon Stone, plus this week's wrap party with Zeth and I, unpacking the story and a whole bunch of recommendations. Number five, 617-906-6638, voicemail and text. DM me at disgracelandpod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and X, [email protected] to email. Your

• 33:38Jake Brennan?

  voice helps uncover what is buried, okay? Your takes, they propel me into the dark corners of music history, so keep them coming, all right? Dig, baby. Let me know about the rock and roll animals you want to hear about. Let me know about the myths you want busted. Hit me up, all right? Number six, don't forget discos, no one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime that ties it all together like you do. And well, that is a disgrace. Rock or roll on. On January 25th, 1986, The Replacements famously bombed on SNL. Here's what didn't bomb that week from the top of the Billboard charts. Number one, That's What Friends Are For, Dionne and Friends, featuring Elton John, Gladys Knight, and Stevie Wonder. Peak position one, weeks on chart 12. Number two, Say You,

• 34:22Jake Brennan?

  Say Me, Lionel Richie. Last week, two, peak position one, weeks on chart 12. Number three, Burning Hearts, Survivor, last week, eight. Peak position three, weeks on chart 13. Number four, Talk To Me, Stevie Nicks. Last week, seven. Peak position four, weeks on chart 11. Number five, I'm Your Man, last week, 12. Peak position five, weeks on chart nine. Number six, My Hometown, Bruce Springsteen, last week, 11. Peak position six, weeks on chart eight. Number seven, Walk Of Life, Dire Streets, last week, nine. Peak position seven, weeks on chart.

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• 35:42Jake Brennan?

  Hey guys, time to dust off your detective skills while unwinding in the Caribbean on Virgin Voyages' second true crime voyage. Back by popular demand, this five-night, adults-only escape sets sail March 20, 2027, to Grand Turk in the Beach Club at Bimini. The difference between this year and last will be that I will be on the cruise this year, along with Zeph, and he and I will be taping a live version of DisgraceLand, along with podcast hosts from Exactly Right's Buried Bones, Podcast of the Year Award winners WiseCrack, and other fan favorites. Get on this cruise with us, guys, and enjoy live podcast recordings, behind-the-scenes storytelling, exclusive meet-and-greets, and immersive true crime programming throughout this one-of-a-kind voyage.

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  Head over to www.virginvoyages.com/trucrime to secure your spot.

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