Pretty Little Episode #87

Mae and Tig answer your questions about comfort objects and "unlearning" on a Pretty Little Episode so entertaining it gives the Hickory Sisters a run for their money! Don't forget to get tickets to our May 4 Live Show in LA https://www.ticketmaster.com/netflix-is-a-joke-presents-handsome-los-angeles-california-05-04-2026/event/0900642CE31BB7C3! Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterSubmit your questions to speakpipe.com/handsomepod http://speakpipe.com/handsomepodFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/Watch Handsome on YouTube http://youtube.com/@handsomepodThis is a Headgum https://headgum.com/ podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter https://x.com/headgum, Instagram https://www.instagram.com/headgum/, and Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum. Advertise on Handsome https://gumball.fm/shows/handsome via Gumball.fm http://gumball.fm/. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Fortune Feimster?

  This is a HeadGum Podcast.

• 0:16Speaker 01

  Pretty little episode.

• 0:18Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it's your friend Tig Notaro on a very pretty little episode with my co-host.

• 0:24Mae Martin?

  May Pearl Martin.

• 0:26Tig Notaro?

  May, where in the world are you?

• 0:28Mae Martin?

  Well, I'm here in Poughkeepsie, New York.

• 0:32Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 0:33Mae Martin?

  Which I called like Puff Kipsy until this morning and someone corrected me.

• 0:40Tig Notaro?

  Puff Kipsy?

• 0:41Mae Martin?

  I thought that's how you would pronounce it when I looked at it.

• 0:45Tig Notaro?

  No.

• 0:45Mae Martin?

  Puff Kipsy.

• 0:46Tig Notaro?

  No, no.

• 0:48Mae Martin?

  I almost got, I got in big trouble last night. I said Concord instead of Conquered.

• 0:53Tig Notaro?

  Oh, yes. Yeah.

• 0:55Mae Martin?

  How are you?

• 0:56Tig Notaro?

  Well, I'm doing much better than you. I haven't gone through nearly the drama you have. But the tour's going well, huh?

• 1:07Mae Martin?

  Tour's going really well.

• 1:09Tig Notaro?

  You were scared you weren't selling tickets.

• 1:11Mae Martin?

  I know.

• 1:12Tig Notaro?

  You're selling, right?

• 1:14Mae Martin?

  Well, except for Vegas. I'm not selling in Vegas.

• 1:17Tig Notaro?

  Not selling in Vegas?

• 1:19Mae Martin?

  No, so if anyone's in Vegas, I'm doing two shows for some reason and neither of them are selling very well. But the rest of the tour's been crazy. Yeah, like in Conquered yesterday, there's like 1,200 people. I'm like, where'd these people come from?

• 1:34Tig Notaro?

  Oh, at your show?

• 1:35Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it was good.

• 1:36Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, and I'm surprised about Vegas considering there's a lot of people with kinks in Vegas.

• 1:42Mae Martin?

  Oh, of course, I'm the king of kink. Of course, of course.

• 1:46Tig Notaro?

  You would think that that would be, you know, immediately sold out shows.

• 1:51Mae Martin?

  It's funny, like the aspects of my personality that get magnified by this podcast or whatever. It means like the people at my shows are like, "Thank you for speaking out for the tarot card community." For like, I've got like, it's like tarot readers, the BDSM community, like all these. And I'm like, I guess that's, I guess that's me. Sometimes I just have a normal day too, you know?

• 2:16Tig Notaro?

  And wait, why has the tarot card community needed somebody to speak out?

• 2:23Mae Martin?

  Well, apparently.

• 2:26Mae Martin?

  You know, it's a, it's a, it's a, an ancient art form that needs representation and to stay in modern discourse. I suppose.

• 2:37Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 2:38Mae Martin?

  Oh, my god.

• 2:39Tig Notaro?

  Oh, go ahead.

• 2:40Mae Martin?

  Oh, sorry. Um, I just, I thought you'd enjoy this. I had an experience the other day. So I was in Boston, never been to Boston.

• 2:48Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 2:48Mae Martin?

  Loved it. And I'm walking by this park and I was feeling really like, like miserable and whiny. Like I was just, all I keep thinking is like, oh, I'm tired, I'm tired. And then something called me into this shop, like an antique shop that was like from a children's movie, like really spooky. And I go in and this woman's like, first time in Boston? She pokes her head up and she's, she goes, I'm a hundred and two. She was a hundred and two years old. Yes. And she starts telling me her-

• 3:18Tig Notaro?

  How did she know it was your first time in Boston?

• 3:20Mae Martin?

  Because she's truly a witch, I think. And she tells me her life story. She's written this book. Oh, where is it? Her and her sister were a double act in Hollywood, in the golden era of Hollywood. And she starts singing this song, hickory sisters, hickory sisters. It was crazy. And then she kissed me on my cheek.

• 3:43Tig Notaro?

  You asking to hear it.

• 3:44Mae Martin?

  I didn't ask for any of this.

• 3:46Tig Notaro?

  And she owns the store?

• 3:48Mae Martin?

  The store's been there a hundred and thirty years. It was her father's store. She took it over with her sister in the nineteen seventies when they got back from Hollywood. And she was so alive, so with it, so smart. She's talking about AI. She was saying like, uh, I bought a crystal, of course. And she said, as I was leaving, she took my hand and she went, the world is a spider web of energy and you can control it. And then kissed my hand. I was like, I am in heaven.

• 4:19Tig Notaro?

  Oh my gosh. What is the name of the store so we can keep it afloat?

• 4:24Mae Martin?

  Let me see. Hickory Sisters, Boston store.

• 4:31Tig Notaro?

  Did you look up if there was any history about them online?

• 4:35Mae Martin?

  There's a ton, yeah. Patricia Bartevian, and she was an Armenian immigrant, her dad, and then, yeah, she runs this, the store is right by the Boston Common.

• 4:50Tig Notaro?

  Thomas, what did, it's called what?

• 4:53Mae Martin?

  Oh, the store is called Bartevian, her last name, I guess.

• 4:56Tig Notaro?

  Oh, okay.

• 4:57Mae Martin?

  It's a consignment store, so she, people give her their things and then she sells them and gives them the cash.

• 5:02Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 5:03Mae Martin?

  But, oh my God, Tig, like she, out of nowhere, she goes, "Well, my sister and I, we were going table to table singing songs, and there was Ernest Hemingway and Cary Grant at the table." And I'm like, "Wow, that's amazing." And she said, "Ernest Hemingway said, 'Her tits are fake.'" About her, and she goes, and he goes, "If they're real, I'll pay the bill." And so then she takes his finger, she's, "I took his..."

• 5:29Tig Notaro?

  Wait, did they have fake boobs back then?

• 5:31Mae Martin?

  Well, I guess so. And she goes, "I took his finger, I poked my boob." I know. So she took Ernest Hemingway's finger and pokes her own boob, and then he goes, "Well, they're, they're real, I'll pay the bill." And then she looks at me, she goes, "Tell you what, they were fake." The twist was they were fake.

• 5:54Tig Notaro?

  That is so funny.

• 5:56Mae Martin?

  Crazy. So that really lifted my spirits. Like I, when I left, I was like, "Oh, my God, like, she's so full of life, and what am I doing complaining about anything?"

• 6:07Tig Notaro?

  And you know what is so deeply amusing to me about this story? Is when you left, the next person that walked in got the same story.

• 6:19Mae Martin?

  The exact same story and experience.

• 6:22Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 6:23Mae Martin?

  Yeah. It was polished, the story, and I've seen the video of her telling it on the news, too.

• 6:29Tig Notaro?

  Really?

• 6:30Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 6:31Tig Notaro?

  That is amazing.

• 6:33Mae Martin?

  She's a real badass. Like, there's this statue of Edgar Allan Poe in Boston Common. And on her Wikipedia page, it says she was responsible for getting that statue put there.

• 6:44Tig Notaro?

  And that information on Wikipedia.

• 6:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I know, yeah. Hickory Sisters, Hickory Sisters.

• 6:51Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my gosh. And are you gonna, are you still, wait, are you in Boston now?

• 6:56Mae Martin?

  No, I'm in Poughkeepsie.

• 6:59Tig Notaro?

  Oh, right, Poughkeepsie.

• 7:00Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 7:00Tig Notaro?

  Right.

• 7:01Mae Martin?

  But I want to keep in touch with her somehow.

• 7:03Tig Notaro?

  Well, we have the name of the place.

• 7:06Mae Martin?

  Yeah. And if, if you're in Boston, go chat, go chat to her.

• 7:10Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I don't have any Boston plans right now.

• 7:13Mae Martin?

  Oh, really?

• 7:14Tig Notaro?

  But, um, all in good time.

• 7:16Mae Martin?

  Well, but I know you're on tour soon because a couple of these venues have been like, Tig's coming soon, Tig's coming soon. Everyone's really excited. And at the meet and greets, people are so pumped.

• 7:25Tig Notaro?

  Oh, that's so great. They're pumped for my, um, non-meet and greet?

• 7:30Mae Martin?

  Yeah, they're, they're like, Tig's coming here. We were gonna get a picture with her, but we probably won't.

• 7:36Tig Notaro?

  But we definitely won't.

• 7:39Tig Notaro?

  That's so great. Yeah, I'm looking, I'm very much looking forward to it. Um, gonna see some people I know and, yeah.

• 7:46Mae Martin?

  Has it been nice to be in LA, though, for a while?

• 7:49Tig Notaro?

  It's been really nice. Um, it's been really, really nice. It's everything I dreamed it would be.

• 7:57Mae Martin?

  Really?

• 7:58Tig Notaro?

  Well, just when I was, yeah, when I was gone a lot, I was just daydreaming about things like playing tennis with Stephanie or our family or going on hikes and just being able to do that and take our morning walks. I just, all of that stuff makes me so happy.

• 8:16Mae Martin?

  Oh, my God.

• 8:17Tig Notaro?

  Unbelievably happy.

• 8:19Mae Martin?

  It's exactly the life I want. You look tanned, you look healthy, you, yeah.

• 8:24Tig Notaro?

  I've been out in the sun, that's for sure. I love you too. Um, should we get to, um, our first question?

• 8:32Mae Martin?

  Yeah, let's do it. What if it was from Patricia?

• 8:34Tig Notaro?

  I think it will be.

• 8:37Mae Martin?

  I'm gonna send you a video of her that I secretly made.

• 8:40Tig Notaro?

  Oh, please do.

• 8:41Speaker 04

  Hey y'all, it's Emma in St. Louis, and you're the first podcast I've ever stuck with for every episode, so great work. What's something that you have had to or are working to unlearn? Could be a tiny thing, could be huge stuff.

• 8:54Mae Martin?

  Ooh.

• 8:55Tig Notaro?

  Our listeners have the best questions.

• 8:59Mae Martin?

  They really do.

• 8:59Tig Notaro?

  Truly.

• 9:00Mae Martin?

  They're better than the celeb questions, let's be honest. They're so good.

• 9:04Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, like really, they really make you think. But um, do you have anything right off?

• 9:10Mae Martin?

  Working to unlearn? Maybe the um, value is measured in productivity, which I didn't really consciously believe, but I think subconsciously, I'm like, if I had a year where I didn't put anything out, or you know, would I feel like I'd had a bad year or wasted my time? Like, I'm really shifting into just wanting to do nothing and do less and do it really, but do it really well and not, you know what I mean?

• 9:42Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I do.

• 9:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 9:44Tig Notaro?

  Absolutely do. You felt like if you were not just churning a million things out, you were not successful? Is that right?

• 9:53Mae Martin?

  Yeah, like, like, there's no limit to how much you can do. Like, and yeah, it's, I, it's hard to even relax, because I'm like, I should be doing a painting, or writing a song, or like, you know? And now I really feel very clearly and strongly that I wanted, I mean, I'm, I'm just like, yeah, that work-life balance that you talk about, I really want that.

• 10:19Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. It's, it's an ongoing process, I think.

• 10:24Mae Martin?

  Not that I, but I do love what I do as well, so that's,

• 10:27Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 10:28Mae Martin?

  That also makes it.

• 10:29Tig Notaro?

  Well, it makes it easier to love what you do when you have the balance and you have time off and you can, you know, live the life you're dreaming of. It's like, before your career gets going, that's the life you dream of, is things to get going in that way. And then when they get going, the life you dream of is to not be doing that as much.

• 10:51Mae Martin?

  And yeah.

• 10:53Tig Notaro?

  So, it's, yeah, it's definitely a balance.

• 10:56Mae Martin?

  What about with parenting? Did you have to unlearn anything with parenting? Like, that you thought you were gonna be one type of parent and then?

• 11:04Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I think I um, That's a good follow up question on a really good question. I, there's a lot of unlearning. Oh my gosh. I think more than anything, I'm trying to find more curiosity in like

• 11:27Tig Notaro?

  standing back and, and watching rather than,

• 11:34Tig Notaro?

  I think I would be more pushing for certain things that I thought that our kids should have or do. Whereas I'm really, I, I think I've shared on this podcast, that thing my stepfather said, which is, it's not the child's responsibility to teach the parent who they are. It's the parent's responsibility to learn who their child is.

• 11:57Mae Martin?

  I love that.

• 11:58Tig Notaro?

  And I'm really, really trying to, and not even like forcing myself to try to do that, but just being way more aware of that and curious about, yeah, who are you and what do you want to do? And where do you want to go? And what do you think? And, and I know that sounds very obvious, but it's

• 12:23Mae Martin?

  I bet there's a lot of differentiation that starts to happen around their age too, where like, I'm, I get so nervous if I'm around a toddler, like their safety is like, like you just, I would get in the habit of just stepping in and, you know, making sure everything's happening smoothly. And then I guess, yeah, as they get older, you have to be like, all right, well, they're not gonna do anything.

• 12:45Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. And yeah, even aside from safety, just like, just letting them make decisions. Um, one of the fun things that we do on the weekends is they decide when they go to bed and that's really cute, you know?

• 13:03Mae Martin?

  That's so cute.

• 13:05Tig Notaro?

  That to hear them, and I've probably mentioned it on the show, but like for us to be in bed and to hear them down the hall, watching The Simpsons and laughing, you know? Or Bob's Burgers.

• 13:17Mae Martin?

  And how, how late do they make it? What's the latest they've sort of stayed up on their

• 13:21Tig Notaro?

  Oh my gosh. I, probably in, near the midnight.

• 13:25Mae Martin?

  Whoa.

• 13:26Tig Notaro?

  Time, you know?

• 13:28Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 13:28Tig Notaro?

  But, um, but yeah, I don't know. Giving them choices, watching them.

• 13:34Tig Notaro?

  Make those choices and live with consequences and successes. And I don't know. Yeah.

• 13:42Mae Martin?

  I love that.

• 13:43Tig Notaro?

  I think I went into parenting originally with, oh, this has to happen or this has to be done like this. And it actually doesn't.

• 13:59Mae Martin?

  My mom talks about like, well, she feels like you have to teach kids empathy. I think it's innate. I think they, what do you think?

• 14:11Tig Notaro?

  I don't know, but I think about it a lot. But I can see really specific examples of Max and Finn's compassion and just heightened parts of their personality that I can directly tie to how we've raised them.

• 14:35Mae Martin?

  Oh, really?

• 14:36Tig Notaro?

  What catches their eye, how it catches their eye. Like, I always talk about how moved I get by the kindness of strangers.

• 14:46Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 14:47Tig Notaro?

  And Finn feels very, he loves that and he loves pointing it out. Where I told him that even when the fire department or police, you know, when they're coming through and people pull over to let the emergency vehicles through to go help, you know?

• 15:04Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 15:05Tig Notaro?

  I said, that even touches me. I just love like seeing people pull together, help. And even like to go back to Bob's Burgers. I don't know if you know Eugene Mirman from Bob's Burgers, but he plays Gene, the kid, and he's an old friend. And he was in a terrible car accident a few days ago. Like, his car was in a ball of flames, like an action movie. And it was electric. It shut down. They couldn't get him out. And the governor of New Hampshire happened to be driving by and her security detail smashed out the windows, got Eugene out of there. And I talked to Max and Finn about that.

• 15:50Tig Notaro?

  I was like, the kindness of strangers and seeing large groups of people standing around. Wanting Eugene, whoever this person is in the car, to be okay.

• 16:03Mae Martin?

  Oh, my God.

• 16:04Tig Notaro?

  And so I've just noticed it as we go through life and we'll turn and be like, that's the kindness of strangers, right?

• 16:11Mae Martin?

  Oh, my God.

• 16:12Tig Notaro?

  And when he points that out, I'm like, yeah, that's exactly these different moments that he notices and he's very aware of it.

• 16:21Mae Martin?

  But that's so amazing that you, because you're, the lens that you view the world through is so malleable, like it's so, like that you've taught him to notice the good things. It's so amazing because I, the other night when I was down, I did, like my therapist had said about a gratitude list and I was like, I was corny. And then before I went to bed, I wrote down all the good things that had happened that day. And it had been an objectively bad day, but, but then there were all these good things in there. It was like, I saw snowflakes, you know, it was snowing. I had a good dog. I had a good smoothie. I talked to Parv. Like, there were good things going on, you know?

• 17:02Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:03Mae Martin?

  So then that was nice.

• 17:05Tig Notaro?

  Well, sorry you had a bad day.

• 17:07Mae Martin?

  Oh, no. But in the end, I was like, ah.

• 17:10Tig Notaro?

  I had a good day.

• 17:11Mae Martin?

  Yeah, on the scale of days.

• 17:12Tig Notaro?

  The pros and con list said I had a good day, actually.

• 17:15Mae Martin?

  Yeah, gaslighting myself. Now I was good. Should we see, hear Emma's answer?

• 17:21Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 17:22Speaker 04

  My tiny unlearning is that somehow I said the word B O T H with an L growing up. Like, oh, I love both of those. So I have been trying to correct it to both because there just really never was, still isn't, an L in that word. As far as bigger things go, we got patriarchy, racism, the classics, but we don't have time for all that. So I'm a work in progress. Okay. Love you. Mean it.

• 17:45Tig Notaro?

  That's so funny, like the deep dive we went into and she's like, I'm just trying to get L out of my both.

• 17:53Tig Notaro?

  Both.

• 17:54Mae Martin?

  But now, we're both gonna say both.

• 17:56Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, we will. We'll both do that.

• 17:58Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's gonna be addictive for me, I think. Both.

• 18:02Tig Notaro?

  Both. Well, good luck with all of that, Emma, from from every every end of the spectrum that you're working on.

• 18:12Mae Martin?

  Yeah, the patriarchy and both.

• 18:16Tig Notaro?

  Should we get another question?

• 18:18Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:19Speaker 05

  Hi, Handsoms. This is Kate. I was just wondering if any of you had a comfort item when you were little? And if you did, did it have a name? Or did you do anything interesting with it?

• 18:34Tig Notaro?

  Oh.

• 18:35Mae Martin?

  The little chuckle after "interesting."

• 18:39Mae Martin?

  Yeah, did you have... We've talked about stuffed animals a bit, right?

• 18:42Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I had a monkey named Zip. And I handed it down to Max and Finn, who cared nothing about Zip. And it was so shocking to me, because it just... I would assume it was like the greatest gift I could give anybody. And it just is lying around in their other pile of stuffed animals that they feel neutral about.

• 19:10Mae Martin?

  Really?

• 19:11Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 19:11Mae Martin?

  Are they not into any stuffed animals, or just they wanted their own? They were like, "What is this old suckman?"

• 19:19Tig Notaro?

  Monkey. No, Finn's into his elephant, and Max has a lamb, but he's not as attached. And when I go in to say goodnight, I'll say, "Do you still care about Lamy?" And he's like, "Yeah." And then I'll just grab it. But Zip was hardcore for me. Like, we went on a family vacation, left the house. I don't know how far out we were. And I was like, "I forgot Zip!"

• 19:50Tig Notaro?

  We had to turn around and get zip. Like, there's no world I could have ever, ever made it through that trip without zip.

• 19:58Mae Martin?

  I'm really glad they turned around for you.

• 20:00Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. What about you?

• 20:02Mae Martin?

  I had so many stuffed animals that I was deeply attached to. And because my, you know, my dad is a strange puppet maker. Like, he would bring them all to life and stuff. So owl, owl is the oldest one that I, that I still have and live with. And it's an owl that I swear I have a memory of my dad making it fly above my crib, like when I was a baby, like, like that. And then, yeah, a lot of stuffed animals. A lot of them, I, and I don't know if this is like, unwell, but he, my dad has a lot of them by his bed still. Like, he, he has them in Toronto. And he's got like, Donut the Bear, Amanda Panda, Beanie Bunny, and Kitty White, all next to his bed.

• 20:43Tig Notaro?

  And you're saying, quite possibly, your father's unwell?

• 20:46Mae Martin?

  Well, it's, he li, he lives in a pretty mystical world. Um, no, he's definitely not unwell, but he, um, has a rich fantasy life and imagination. I don't know what he gets up to, because his bedroom is also his puppet studio now, so.

• 21:02Tig Notaro?

  And does, I mean, this is very personal, but does your mother share the bedroom with him?

• 21:06Mae Martin?

  No, they have separate rooms.

• 21:08Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 21:08Mae Martin?

  But they've assured me that they are intimate with each other. I didn't ask, but they told me that. Because they don't want me to worry that they're in separate rooms. But, you know, my dad snores.

• 21:20Tig Notaro?

  And they ask that you share with the Handsome Podcast. They are still intimate.

• 21:25Mae Martin?

  Oh, God. Yeah. But yeah, so stuffed animals, I guess. I didn't, I was never like, you know, people have a blanket, like a blankie. I never.

• 21:36Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I didn't either. I had cigarettes and a monkey. Should we listen to Kate's response?

• 21:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:44Speaker 05

  My answer is that I had a pillow comfort item when I was little. Its name was Stinky.

• 21:53Speaker 05

  And I used to smell it around the clock and also crease its satin and strum it like a guitar and also pick feathers from it because it was a feather pillow. I liked all those little sensory things. All right, Handsoms, you're best.

• 22:13Mae Martin?

  Thanks, Kate.

• 22:14Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, Stinky the Pillow, huh?

• 22:17Mae Martin?

  Stinky the Pillow, pulling feathers out of old Stinky. Oh, my God.

• 22:22Tig Notaro?

  Where do you think, what picture? Stinky is in a landfill right now. Let's just be honest.

• 22:28Mae Martin?

  It's likely, but maybe Kate, maybe Kate.

• 22:31Tig Notaro?

  No, Kate would have mentioned if Stinky the Pillow and pulling out that many feathers, there's just no way.

• 22:39Mae Martin?

  You're right. And that's the kind of thing that if you try to gift that to your kids, they're like, oh.

• 22:44Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my gosh. It is a weird thing I did not know about because I, again, gifted my kids t-shirts from when I played soccer for them to wear.

• 22:56Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:57Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, but then they wear them, they grow out of them, and then I, and then I'm left. This just happened in the house where it was like, it was all returned to me. Like, we've grown out of this. And it's like, there's no one to give it to now. So I just have to throw it away. Like, not throw it away, but like, go, you know what, I'll start an eBay store and I'll sign my childhood soccer jersey and retire on that.

• 23:24Mae Martin?

  But what if they have kids one day? They gotta keep them, but you can't expect them to keep them now until they have kids.

• 23:30Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it's like, like, how long do you hold on to these old soccer t-shirts? Anyway, well, that was a fun episode. Good to see you and thanks for listening. Make sure to submit your questions and advice requests to speakpipe.com/hansampod.

• 23:50Mae Martin?

  And actually, tonight, I'm in Vegas. If you live in Vegas, there's still tickets left. There's two shows, 7:00 PM and 10:00 PM. I'm desperate for you to be there.

• 24:01Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I guess you may.

• 24:02Mae Martin?

  maymartin.net for the other tour dates.

• 24:05Tig Notaro?

  Okay, well, until next time.

• 24:07Fortune Feimster?

  Keep it pretty handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and Mae Martin. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Woolett. Email us at [email protected] and follow us on social media at HandsomePod.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  That was a HeadGum Podcast.