Tesla's Crazy Patent; Jaguar Type 01; 2026 Prius review

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

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• 0:42Matt Farah?

  Go to avants.com/TST and use code TST for 10% off your membership. That's Avance. On this episode of the podcast, Tesla patents something that already exists. We check out the Jaguar Type O1. We review the new Toyota Prius. And is there a wheel that actually makes a Cybertruck look better? Um, I got a free guitar today from Mr. Spike Ferriston. Shout out to him. Spike's Car Radio, maybe you've heard of it. Um, hello. How ye doing? And I mean that quite literally. How is the rapper now known as Ye?

• 1:22Speaker 01

  How's Ye doing?

• 1:23Matt Farah?

  Ye. Sorry, it's not Ye.

• 1:24Speaker 01

  I think he's doing a show and he's like a sold out show. He's going to Israel, I think. He's doing a show there, which I probably can't even say that word on YouTube.

• 1:32Matt Farah?

  The guy who talked about Hitler is now a Zionist, right?

• 1:35Speaker 01

  I think he goes where the money is. But he's on tour. He's doing Crypto Arena October 28th. I'll buy you tickets.

• 1:43Matt Farah?

  I'm not gonna be here, which is just fine.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  Oh, well, I'll find another availability.

• 1:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, let's go see him somewhere else on the tour. Well, let's fuel the jet.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:55Matt Farah?

  Which, or we could maybe hile a taxi.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  That's his new shirt.

• 2:01Matt Farah?

  Um, that's how you get a Cybertruck, or a robotaxi.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  It says hile, yeah. And he's copying Andre 3000.

• 2:09Matt Farah?

  I drove through a neighborhood last night and just had the worst, it was this morning actually, and had the worst house in it. It was like, nice house, nice, nice, gaudy fucking house, Cybertruck on rims parked in the driveway. Of course, of course. That thing looks bad on rims.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  Really? Doesn't fall off the wall?

• 2:30Matt Farah?

  Well, let me just say, I have yet to see a wheel that really improves it. Like, I've seen a lot of ill-fitting, really like weird wheels. The kind of wheels you would put on like an Escalade really are horrible. I imagine there's probably a design somewhere that improves it, but I have not seen it yet. Maybe you just Google "Cybertruck on rims" and see if any random images that generate positivity?

• 2:57Speaker 01

  I think the body of the truck is too big and the wheel wells are too small.

• 3:01Matt Farah?

  Um, boy, is that a sea of no's. Sea of no's, would you say? Here? The bottom left is like the ones you'd see on one of those Camaros, like 30-inch, like forgiahtos.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:18Matt Farah?

  And actually, in an ironic way, I kind of dig that one. I mean, it's bad. It's really bad. It's all bad. Right?

• 3:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's just something with the proportion. And I'm trying to not just dislike the truck, but it's almost like there's too much space between the wheels, but the arches are too small. I don't know.

• 3:38Matt Farah?

  No, we're trying to discern with this exercise if there is a rim that improves it.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  This is, I'll say this is not bad. I will, it looks, it's dark and just as industrial and like aggressive as the truck itself.

• 3:52Matt Farah?

  This wheel is best described as a table saw blade, right?

• 3:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like a giant, giant BBS rally wheel.

• 4:00Matt Farah?

  Oh, it's kind of like Porsche 935, like a little bit. Somewhere between that and a table saw.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Parked in a handicap zone, but only halfway in the spot. Nice job.

• 4:10Matt Farah?

  That is the best I've seen. But the Fitment, like, why is it sticking out so far?

• 4:16Speaker 01

  It's a render weight. These panels don't line up right.

• 4:19Matt Farah?

  Well, they wouldn't anyway.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  That's a good point. That's a very good point.

• 4:24Matt Farah?

  It's not like they would. Scroll down a little bit anymore?

• 4:27Speaker 01

  But that is something else, something's out there.

• 4:29Matt Farah?

  I, none of these are winners. Like, the sports car style wheel is no-go.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  It's not good.

• 4:36Matt Farah?

  The big flat face wheel is sort of, wow. I mean, in sort of like a trippy Burning Man way, I kind of buy that Prismey 30's ones, like that purple thing you just had. That black one you just had, the bottom, okay.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  With a wing on it?

• 4:55Matt Farah?

  The one with the wing on it. But what do you think of these wheels? These wheels remind me of actually like a Bentley Continental wheel, a little bit. The bottom ones.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  Oh, very much so. Yes. The double spoke with like the really thick center. I agree.

• 5:12Matt Farah?

  I would, I could picture that on a Bentley Continental GT Speed.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  There's like a, well, there's a Learjet in the reflection, but I think this is all rendered.

• 5:21Matt Farah?

  It is, but like, just as a wheel style, that's not bad.

• 5:25Speaker 01

  But you have to lower the truck too, or put it in low.

• 5:29Matt Farah?

  What about any of the off-road-y ones? Like, go up a little bit? That, like, the one in the center, the vertical one, which is like, just your traditional, like a wheel you might, not that, no, this. Like, you might see this, it's like a beadlock wheel. It looks like the kind of wheel you would see on a lightly modded Tacoma or Tundra, right? Not quite a, oh, this one, the 1552. This is MPP Megaterra is the name of these wheels.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  I think that's a good-looking wheel. But I like the wheel. I'd have to see the whole truck. Can I see the whole truck?

• 6:03Matt Farah?

  This one, this one, uh, looks almost like a rally wheel, like a Turbo Mac kind of style wheel. This one is a utilitarian style wheel. It seems, it's black, it just sort of hides itself.

• 6:17Speaker 01

  Huge sidewall, wow.

• 6:19Matt Farah?

  Lots of sidewall, though, which...

• 6:21Speaker 01

  That's not bad.

• 6:22Matt Farah?

  That's about, that's about as good as I've seen, I think.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:26Matt Farah?

  So the best, the best wheel for a Cybertruck is something that doesn't emphasize its wheelness.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know what I think stripped me out is, if this was a normal truck, this bed would be flat here. So the amount of material you have with, almost like, what do you call it, like the cam back or hatchback? There's so much metal above the wheel, it makes this look tiny, no matter how big it gets.

• 6:46Matt Farah?

  That's absolutely accurate. It's almost like the back half version of your dash-to-axle ratio. It's like the metal, the slab-to-rim ratio.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's too much ridgeline.

• 6:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's also what happens with the Jeep Grand Wagoneer. The shape of the Jeep Grand Wagoneer, it makes the wheels and tires look real small in the body, which is exactly what happens with the back of the Cybertruck, right?

• 7:15Speaker 01

  And the Wagoneer also has huge body and tiny windows.

• 7:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, look at the white one. Look, you can't unsee it. Look.

• 7:21Speaker 01

  This is...

• 7:22Matt Farah?

  Oh my God, it looks so sad.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  It's one of my least favorite looking vehicles ever.

• 7:27Matt Farah?

  This photo can't be right.

• 7:29Speaker 01

  Uh, Wikipedia?

• 7:31Matt Farah?

  I guess that's the...

• 7:32Speaker 01

  Taken by a person.

• 7:33Matt Farah?

  No, it says, look, it does say Creator Mr. Choppers. That's with the big, the biggest rim option, too, the press car.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  It's still not good.

• 7:41Matt Farah?

  Well, when you park it on grass, that's the same vehicle as the one that's parked on grass on Wikipedia, but it looks way worse on grass, doesn't it?

• 7:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it does.

• 7:51Matt Farah?

  Grass, parking this thing on grass makes it look very sad, but...

• 7:54Speaker 01

  Plus, this was shot, that's shot from a higher angle. This is from a lower angle.

• 7:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. But either way, every time I see one of these, they look so strange because the wheel arches and the wheels and tires are so small for the vehicle.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  There you go. That's your jam. That's your jam.

• 8:14Matt Farah?

  Oh my God, with the chrome window surround.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  Chrome window surround, like a burgundy Grand Wagoneer. These are tiny, these are like shopping cart wheels, holding this thing up.

• 8:23Matt Farah?

  1977 is back, baby. That's crazy.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  Except, you know, but this, good.

• 8:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no.

• 8:31Speaker 01

  So these are such good-looking cars, the original Grand Wagoneer.

• 8:34Matt Farah?

  That's true. Right at the top of the list of most charming, hideously terrible vehicles, alongside the Smokey and the Bandit Trans Am.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  Uh, most charming hideously terrible cars.

• 8:49Matt Farah?

  Hmm.

• 8:50Speaker 01

  Oh, cuz right.

• 8:51Matt Farah?

  H1 Hummer.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  Uh, BMW Isetta?

• 8:53Matt Farah?

  Yup, yup, sure.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  Volkswagen Beetle arguably, if you wanna go anywhere. It's quite, I mean, it's reliable.

• 9:00Matt Farah?

  I wouldn't say a Beetle is a hideously terrible car. That's a, that was like.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  It was important.

• 9:05Matt Farah?

  That was like the best selling car in the world for like two decades. I'm not, I don't think hideously terrible is fair. I don't even think it would be, it's fair of us to like legit. I don't think it's fair of us to like crap on the PT Cruiser that much because you cannot.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 9:22Matt Farah?

  You cannot hate on its numbers.

• 9:23Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 9:24Matt Farah?

  The PT Cruiser did numbers that are so unbelievable. We are wrong for saying it is bad.

• 9:30Speaker 01

  My least favorite ex-girlfriend owned one and I will still give respect to the PT Cruiser. I'm not even gonna lump them together.

• 9:36Matt Farah?

  Oh, it's not, you know, and it's allegedly, you know, at some time or date, maybe allegedly, possibly the first time I went to Willow Springs, I may have raced one in a rental car race and may or may not have finished. Let's just say. I don't, but it was a good lap and a half of excellence.

• 9:58Speaker 01

  So what we're saying, it's charming, but terrible. Isetta, uh, Morgan three wheeler in a way.

• 10:05Matt Farah?

  Correct, correct.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  Bad car, good car.

• 10:08Matt Farah?

  Up until the Super Three, the Super Three isn't even charming.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, it, it lost a lot.

• 10:13Matt Farah?

  The motorcycle engine ones are charming. Other, other Morgans, four wheeled Morgans are charming and not terrible, but.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, the bigger they are, the better they get.

• 10:22Matt Farah?

  Very quirky.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 10:23Matt Farah?

  Very quirky. Uh, they might be the last, not last, cuz if you're in Europe, Citroen wins like all Quirk Games, but like in America, that might be the quirkiest new car. Like new, truly new car, that might be the quirkiest new car you could buy.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  Until they actually sell that weird solar powered muddy laundering vehicle. The Aptera, that will win if and when they actually are delivered to a customer.

• 10:51Matt Farah?

  Makes your investment disappear in minutes.

• 10:53Speaker 01

  Sure does, powered by the sun.

• 10:57Matt Farah?

  Eventually, they had one, they did, they have made one. Like I, they, they made one and invited me to drive it and I, I couldn't for some reason. And then I found out it was like a pretty limited drive, but they did have, they, they just won.

• 11:11Speaker 01

  As of a month ago now, they say they're getting built in Shanghai.

• 11:17Matt Farah?

  In Shanghai, huh?

• 11:18Speaker 01

  Shanghai.

• 11:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Uh. Wait, go, go up to that, it will be a Shanghai based launch designs menu. Uh, the first 40 customer vehicles scheduled for Q4 this year. I, listen, that's good, honestly, good for them. If they build, if they build and sell even fucking three cars after all this, honestly, good for them. That would be.

• 11:45Speaker 01

  Forty units at first.

• 11:46Matt Farah?

  What are the odds?

• 11:47Speaker 01

  This is not, I'm reading this headline from Inside EVs, this is not my joke. It only plans, quote, it only plans to build 40 units at first. Uh, ad, uh, which will do little to fulfill its 50,000 reservation backlog.

• 12:02Matt Farah?

  Dude, how, but you know 50,000, it's like, it's like so many people are like, sure buddy. Uh, you, uh, you, here's a hundred bucks. I'll, I'll, I'll reserve one, let's, well, you, let's see, let, that's, this is the most throw shit at the wall.

• 12:16Speaker 01

  Wow, one of our patrons said 2009 was when the Aptera first appeared in the reboot Star Trek movie.

• 12:22Matt Farah?

  My entire career, this thing has been about to come out.

• 12:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh nine, that's when we began. Good God.

• 12:32Matt Farah?

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• 16:56Matt Farah?

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• 16:58Speaker 01

  Zero.

• 16:59Matt Farah?

  Definitely one of those is going to Kyle Connor, right?

• 17:01Speaker 01

  Now, what are the odds? Which do you think gets built and delivered first? This or the Tesla Roadster?

• 17:09Matt Farah?

  Oh. I mean, it's, the Tesla Roadster is just, the whole thing is so stupid because like, you're a car company, why would you not just like build this car?

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Well, it got dumber. Did you see the news about the thing they added? I don't think you did, which make.

• 17:27Matt Farah?

  Oh, have I missed?

• 17:28Speaker 01

  You did, and I have been saving this.

• 17:30Matt Farah?

  Oh, a day where you don't have to read about Tesla is a good day. I've enjoyed my time away.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Restart the counter.

• 17:36Matt Farah?

  Bring me back to fucking reality Elon Musk.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  Days since reading about Tesla, zero.

• 17:41Matt Farah?

  Tesla patents electric fan car weeks before Roadster reveal.

• 17:47Speaker 01

  So, do you think they saw the McMertry?

• 17:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  And they went, and Elon was like, ooh, let's do that instead of his crazy rocket idea, which was in no way gonna help the car, probably nor be legal.

• 18:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 18:00Speaker 01

  Fan car would make sense given their technology, but it would also, I'm pretty sure, require a complete reworking of what the Roadster's design would be to then add and implement a fan.

• 18:12Matt Farah?

  Does the, so in order to have a fan really work, um, the car's gotta be really, really low to the ground.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:21Matt Farah?

  Right?

• 18:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:22Matt Farah?

  And, and, uh, so you, you do lose, you know, some practicality there.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Sure, I, I could imagine a fan, like you hit a button.

• 18:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  And it drops it super low. And the fan's spooled.

• 18:36Matt Farah?

  So it would be very Muskian to pump stock based on the rumor of a car with rockets and then have the reality be a technology that was actually invented by other people like 50 years ago.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  Window fans.

• 18:54Matt Farah?

  And is already, you know, and was used in race cars back then and is used in cars now and going, oh, well, it's the first EV to have it. So four electric fans mounted to the rear diffuser to help with downforce and aerodynamics. Yeah, that, I mean, that, uh, doesn't really help with your zero to 60, but it helps with your hand, it does help with your handling, I mean.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  If you could truly suck the car to the ground, like Mertry style, it would help zero to 60 cuz you're pressing the tire into the ground.

• 19:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but if you've got an all wheel drive, like you, I mean, yeah, it would help, it might give you a, a couple tenths.

• 19:32Speaker 01

  Which is enough to set some new record that no one cares about.

• 19:35Matt Farah?

  Maybe it is, yeah. But, but what it is not is anything like he has promised.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  Right, it is a departure.

• 19:43Matt Farah?

  And it's technology that already existed the entire time, invented, implemented and used successfully by many, many others.

• 19:52Matt Farah?

  What about it is patented?

• 20:01Matt Farah?

  Like, I just don't like this is a, it would have four electric fans mounted to the rear diffuser. So, like, you're, it's, so the patent is just to do it without a single big fan?

• 20:19Speaker 01

  Oh, you're saying what is the specificity?

• 20:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like, cause how do you, how would you patent this? It's already been done like publicly. So what? You have to change something?

• 20:26Speaker 01

  Sure. Well, if it has four little fans instead of one big one.

• 20:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah. So if it's these little fans inside of a rear diffuser.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  I mean, the fans are also mounted much lower than Gordon Murray's car.

• 20:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah, go down. Here's how it's described in the patent filing. An electric vehicle comprising a ducted fan system configured to increase downforce and reduce drag. Okay, so literally that already exists. It's called the McMurtry spearling. The ducted fan system can include a diffuser extending from an input on an underbody of the vehicle and to an outlet on the rear side of the vehicle. The ducted fan system can be connected to a high voltage battery and a control system of the electric vehicle. The electric vehicle can further include a second diffuser to enhance downforce.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  Oh, it looks like, and then they added, uh, last year Tesla filed a patent to design a system of skirts and electric fans to suck the car to the ground.

• 21:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah. So if you had a side, a body kit that somehow powered down to create a skirt, you could then, I mean, that would be cool. But like, I don't understand how you would patent this because it's, the, the technology described in that paragraph, with the exception of specifically using quote, "four fans" instead of "a fan," is, it already exists.

• 21:46Speaker 01

  I, I don't know enough about patent law. I'm sure like, there's so many competing products that are clearly just slightly different from the other competitor. And so specificity matters, right?

• 21:57Matt Farah?

  Yes, I guess. I guess. Doesn't take much to get a patent. But it's, it would be very, very, like, very funny if this is what he was talking about the whole time. I mean, it's, it's literally not at all what they were saying.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  It would be weird considering, I think the press releases about the rockets, like, got reinvigorated a few months ago. So if they had this in plan, imagine that. And you're behind the car, all of a sudden, like, your whole hood gets flipped up and smashes into your, uh, your windshield.

• 22:29Matt Farah?

  Get the fuck out of here, dude. Rockets on, yeah, okay, buddy. Fucking.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  Anyway.

• 22:35Matt Farah?

  Nobody likes you, Elon. Nobody likes you. You were a huge, huge weird shaped loser.

• 22:43Speaker 01

  It'd be funny if he like hacks this election, but instead he, he gets so butthurt that he just makes him win and he's not on the ballot. And so like highlights that it's cheating.

• 22:53Matt Farah?

  You see?

• 22:54Speaker 01

  And he's just like, I'm, I'm in charge now.

• 22:57Matt Farah?

  This is fucking crazy. Oh, people are dumb. Um, guys, the pens are here. You should get one. These are the tactile turn pens with the red smoking tire clip. Show them off to your friends. This is like a brand new one they just sent in this nice shiny brass. And I, um, it's not in the, it's not in the studio right now, but my patina'd one from like a year ago. It's very dark and, uh, patinated, which is in fact a word. Um, yeah, link is in the description. There's a few of those left. Grab them while you can. Um, Zach Lapman, we should talk about either the Prius, which, which, which was good. The

• 23:37Matt Farah?

  Prius was good. Uh, we could talk about, um, the Jaguar Type O1 reveal, the, the new Jaguar and its looks, cause they are quite something. Um, and we could talk about the, uh, California speed camera program. Hmm. That's exciting. Uh, what do you like? What do you like right now?

• 24:00Speaker 01

  I have a bunch of Prius stuff pulled up. So we're talking about the Prius.

• 24:04Matt Farah?

  We'll really keep people around for this one. Here's the thing.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  People ask for us to talk about affordable cars that they want to use, and this could be one of them.

• 24:13Matt Farah?

  The Prius is good.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  It is pretty good. And it's actually kinda sporty.

• 24:17Matt Farah?

  It's fun to drive.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  And the steering feel, surprisingly kinda good. And the weight of it is pretty nice.

• 24:24Matt Farah?

  What I love about the Prius's steering is it has a tiny little steering wheel. Very light steering and tiny little steering wheel. And it feels like I'm driving a Logitech racing seat.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  It does.

• 24:35Matt Farah?

  When you're driving one of those. Uh, reasonably quick. So, you know, if you heard the terms, there's a really cringing, cringe inducing term on the internet about watches, where people refer to a watch as a strap monster. Have you heard about that?

• 24:54Speaker 01

  No.

• 24:55Matt Farah?

  It, it makes me wanna throw open my mouth a little bit when I say it out loud. And if you ever hear someone say it out loud, it'll make you wanna throw up in your mouth too. Um, but it basically, it's a watch that looks good on many different straps. You change the straps around and change up the looks. And that's what they call it. The Prius is a, is a rim monster. There are, like, just like we just had a really hard time finding a good set of wheels in a Cybertruck. If you did the same exercise with a Prius, the whole page would be dope. All, almost all rims look good on a Prius. I don't know how they have landed on this shape, but pick a new Prius. Put, you have to put 2025 because it'll give you these old Priuses.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  That red one's not bad.

• 25:40Matt Farah?

  That red one is not bad. I agree. But almost, look, you got, you have Ferrari wheels on that gray one. Those are Ferrari, those are Ferrari F8 wheels. Uh, I saw one yesterday on one of these searches that was on R35 Nissan GTR wheels. It looked fire.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Bozy, Bozy's car, uh, engineer for Lexus Racing, his is on, uh, Evo eight wheels, I think. And it looks great.

• 26:04Matt Farah?

  I like that. You even, look at the tops.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  Look, that, I mean, that looks good.

• 26:08Matt Farah?

  Oh, my God. Antera tries.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 26:10Matt Farah?

  That looks, dude, pull that red one up. If you put Antera tries on a Prius, you are straight up driving a Pininfarina concept car from 1993. That looks like, Google the, uh, Pininfarina Mythos concept, and you will understand. And like, you're not actually that far off.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  I see what you're saying. I think the, the front is very new Prius. The back is totally different.

• 26:37Matt Farah?

  Well, the back, this is based on a Ferrari Testarossa. So there's only so close you're gonna get. But now flip back to the Prius, and you can see the vibe you're going with here.

• 26:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, this would be your, uh, your tender to drive you from your fancy house to your Pininfarina.

• 26:53Matt Farah?

  Dude, in the nineties, this would have been a Ferrari concept sedan.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 26:57Matt Farah?

  For sure.

• 26:57Speaker 01

  Or it's kinda like the Ford, oh, which one?

• 26:59Matt Farah?

  Probe.

• 27:00Speaker 01

  Everything, yeah. Everything was like very leany Ford.

• 27:02Matt Farah?

  This is, yeah, like, it's like a Back to the Future 2 prop car, which was, so Demolition Man, sidebar, like, Demolition Man used all of GM's, uh, concept car fleet from 1994. Back to the Future 2 used a bunch of Fords. So there was like three or four different future Fords from Ford's actual fleet in, uh, Back to the Future 2, as well as a couple of like, uh, BMWs and Chryslers. Weird. Um, yeah, this, this one looks sick too. These all look great. It's hard to find a bad one.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  It's a very good looking car. They, they really knocked it out of the park. Um, you know, we have some friends that bought one. I hadn't driven one yet. I think you had driven a new one maybe six months ago.

• 27:46Matt Farah?

  I drove it in Miami. Me and Hannah took one on vacation.

• 27:48Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. So how did it work for you guys? Cause I noticed the good things are like, the ride's pretty good. It's pretty quick. Uh, good looking car. It does all the things fairly well.

• 27:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  But getting in and out of it, the opening is pretty small. I looked it up. The, the roof height is two inches shorter than the outgoing Prius.

• 28:06Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 28:06Speaker 01

  Which, the outgoing one is used for cabs all over the city. Very easy to get in and out of, but this is a little bit lower, maybe a little bit more, uh, aerodynamic, but at the price of comfort.

• 28:16Matt Farah?

  So, you know, we take airport taxis all the time, and you know what you don't see in airport taxi line is any new Priuses.

• 28:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:23Matt Farah?

  You see a million, almost exclusively old Priuses and no new Priuses. So as a cab, I agree with you. But what's strange is for a large man, I like cars with small doors. Guys, one more break because support is coming in from Quince. I love Quince because they have my fall season on lock. You know, the perfect pair of pants, the sweater that goes with everything, that T-shirt that somehow you always reach for first? Those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy, and that's what Quince does best. Focusing on high quality wardrobe staples made with premium materials like 100% Mongolian cashmere, organic

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• 33:40Matt Farah?

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• 34:23Matt Farah?

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• 35:06Matt Farah?

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• 35:36Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 35:37Matt Farah?

  If I have to park close to another car or close to a wall, I can get a little more angle there and I like that. Cars with a big, long door, like a Bentley or a BMW 6 Series, if I have to park close to something, I've got no angle.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:51Matt Farah?

  So that's just a me thing.

• 35:52Speaker 01

  You have to slip out and kind of go backwards, shimmy.

• 35:53Matt Farah?

  But as someone who's had back pain, having to duck under an A-pillar before, I feel your pain.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:59Matt Farah?

  On that one. I happen to think it's very comfortable when you're sitting in it and I really like the ride. I think the ride is like nice in that car.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:07Matt Farah?

  Traditional, like, economy car suspension, it rides really well.

• 36:11Speaker 01

  I think one of the only other things I didn't like about it was that the steering wheel, when I place the steering wheel at its normal position for how my arms like to feel, I cannot see the bottom half of the gauges. Because the gauges are very small because that windshield is so swept back. So I had to lower the steering wheel, you know, drop it down like two inches and then it was kind of like, I felt like I was driving a, you know, a kid's like Barbie Jeep.

• 36:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 36:36Speaker 01

  And then it was fine to operate, but definitely not good. And some people, one of our fans, Tim, he saw my post about it and he went, "Yeah, I have one of these." And you just cannot see the bottom of those gauges. Because if they made the cluster taller, it would be very much in front of your view, like looking down the road.

• 36:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, because the windshield is actually quite raked.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Super slow.

• 36:56Matt Farah?

  So it's so interesting. You and I sit so differently in a car. I have, for my height, I have like short little T-Rex arms. Like I have long legs and like short arms. And I like to sit with the steering wheel always as low as it goes.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  Really?

• 37:15Matt Farah?

  I like a low wheel. I do. And because I don't like my arms up here. I like my arms, my arms sit comfortably down here.

• 37:22Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 37:23Matt Farah?

  And so for me, I put the steering, I like that I can put the steering wheel where I want it and the whole cluster is up above it. I like that.

• 37:31Speaker 01

  I thought the wheel was too close to my legs.

• 37:33Matt Farah?

  That's also why I like Model... One of the only things I really like about Model 3 and Model Y is the fact that there isn't a front cluster. I used to not like this. I used to think, oh, they're just cost-cutting, which they absolutely are. But once I got used to looking over here for speed, it wasn't that weird. And the fact that there is no cluster in front of me means I could just put that wheel like wherever and I end up sitting more comfortably because of it.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  Hmm, okay.

• 38:01Matt Farah?

  Ergonomically, I really like that.

• 38:02Speaker 01

  Okay. I still don't like looking over to the right at, you know, the cars.

• 38:06Matt Farah?

  I prefer the Prius. In the Prius, the whole shit's above the wheel and I'm like, this car was fucking made for me.

• 38:12Speaker 01

  I think the CRZ has the gauges mounted to the column.

• 38:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 38:16Speaker 01

  So they're always in the right spot.

• 38:17Matt Farah?

  That's nice.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  But, so what's weird about this, about the Prius, is that we like the way it looks. We like the way it drives. It's two seconds quicker to 60 than the old one. It's more efficient. I think the efficiency went up by like, what did it read, 14% from the outgoing one?

• 38:31Matt Farah?

  It's really efficient.

• 38:32Speaker 01

  They are not selling well at all. They are, I think they're down 40% year over year with these things.

• 38:40Matt Farah?

  Because of the rims.

• 38:41Speaker 01

  Just because of the rims.

• 38:42Matt Farah?

  It's really giving them a bad image.

• 38:44Speaker 01

  Let's see. In July of this year, Toyota sold 23% down from 2025 and overall, like they're down. And so The Drive did a good article, which I'm sort of, I read earlier. They asked Toyota what's going on and a lot of owners have shifted to Camry because all of the Camry's are hybrid now.

• 39:05Matt Farah?

  I was just going to say, if it's the hybridification of Toyota's entire line, you don't have to buy the Prius anymore.

• 39:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 39:14Matt Farah?

  If the Prius gets 55 miles a gallon and the Camry gets 51, and I think the Camry's only a couple thousand dollars more than the Prius, right?

• 39:23Speaker 01

  Prius gets 50 combined and the primes, all the plug-ins start at like 38 grand.

• 39:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah. For Priuses?

• 39:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  And well, Camry hybrids start at 29, but I'm sure if you get the prime one starts at 33. So it's like,

• 39:40Matt Farah?

  So it's cheaper?

• 39:41Speaker 01

  The pricing's like the same.

• 39:42Matt Farah?

  If it ends up in the same place, why would most people not like, I, I, I happen to like the Prius being small, like it actually has a lot of room in the front seat. But if you, if you have a family and it's, and it's, and you're within the Toyota universe and you go, I could fit people in the back more comfortable.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:02Matt Farah?

  Getting a Camry hybrid that's maybe three or four miles a gallon worse than a Prius plug-in hybrid is all, is like, it feels like you're getting more for your money.

• 40:12Speaker 01

  Honestly, and the MPG numbers are the same on Toyota's website. The combined is up, it's up to 51. And the Prius stuff on Toyota's website I'm seeing is up to 50. So,

• 40:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  And the Camry has a slightly larger gas engine to, you know, generate the power. But yeah, like you're not, what are you losing by moving up other than space?

• 40:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 40:32Speaker 01

  So it makes sense. And they, and you know, Toyota's RAV4s are all hybrid now, but also outside of the Toyota family, there are so many hybrids available. So the Prius like was the, the only choice and then the best one for a long time. And now they have competition.

• 40:46Matt Farah?

  What do they have a 20 fucking year advantage in this space?

• 40:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:51Matt Farah?

  So nevertheless, I, I found, you know, the handling to be more than up to its intended task and the braking to be fine. And, uh, you know, nice, comfortable, easy to use car. However, 8S,

• 41:09Matt Farah?

  it took me a minute to figure out how to turn off most of the 8S. I could not figure out how to fully deactivate, how to turn everything, everything off. I'm not sure you can. Also, the fucking coffee thing.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. Driver monitoring and it is so aggressive.

• 41:26Matt Farah?

  And it, and it was not in the 2025 I drove. It didn't, the 2025 I drove did not do that. Okay. So something happened for 26 slash, I don't know if this was a 27 or 26, this car.

• 41:38Speaker 01

  I think 26.

• 41:40Matt Farah?

  I think it was 26. So it had some miles on it. But whatever they've changed, they made it a lot worse. This motherfucker found all kinds of reasons to tell me to take a break or to look at the, oh, it was like, it, it, it was this, the most nanny state shit. It was, your eyes aren't looking straight ahead. You know, when I'm like, literally just like cruising and looking around at stuff like,

• 42:06Speaker 01

  Or like looking at the highway sign off at your two o'clock. And it's always like, you know, do you need a break? I'm like, I'm looking at the road.

• 42:13Matt Farah?

  Dude, I stopped, I stopped to, to take a break for something and it asked me if I needed a break. Like right after that. It was, it was insanely invasive. Um, and this kind of stuff is, is not good.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  I wonder, we should research this. Like, I wonder if there was a mandate to all companies after 25 that they had to have more aggressive driver monitoring systems? Or are some just choosing to do that? Or they're just, the tuning is a little bit off and needs some refinement? Cause it's, it was this that did it. The EX30 did it. Uh, the Hyundai was a little bit more relaxed about things. But, um, I think the Golf R was like a little bit.

• 42:53Matt Farah?

  The Golf R also, yeah.

• 42:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 42:56Speaker 01

  There's a lot of, there's a lot of different companies from different countries that are all, you know, pestering.

• 43:00Matt Farah?

  This one was very pesty. And the, the Hyundai Elantra N that I just had kept telling me to take brakes too, even when I just took brakes. This one, that one kept telling me to take brakes. This one was, um, keep telling, telling me that my eyes weren't on the road, which like, gee, I, I, it may be my sunglasses.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  I was also wearing Dylan's when I drove it and I'm wondering.

• 43:25Matt Farah?

  Do we need to try non Dylan's?

• 43:27Speaker 01

  We can do that.

• 43:28Matt Farah?

  Cause I drove the Hyundai at night too, and it did it with no glasses.

• 43:32Speaker 01

  So it's probably looking at your, like, like our phones know when our eyes are looking at the screen or not. That's why it doesn't unlock till you look at the screen.

• 43:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 43:40Speaker 01

  But I wonder if these, the cars can detect that. So, or if it's just seeing like the way your face is facing. But it would be very, it would be really annoying if these sensors in the cars see a person wearing sunglasses and go, oh no, you're not paying attention. Like that would be a.

• 43:56Matt Farah?

  That would be very problematic. Yeah. So that's a bummer. Um, but I like almost everything else about the Prius.

• 44:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. Me too. It was, I liked a lot. And I liked, we had the mustard yellow. I thought it was a good looking color. Looked pretty like golden, cool, like a gold bar. And

• 44:14Matt Farah?

  I didn't hate it.

• 44:15Speaker 01

  I just liked it, man. I see him on the road and I go, that's a really good looking car.

• 44:18Matt Farah?

  It's nice. It's nice. I, I just, I, I hope there's a way to turn that off. Like that I just don't know that's buried somewhere. There's a lot of acronyms. You know, you go to turn stuff off and it's VCLS, RCTA, and you're like, and there's an icon that indicates like, there's a car and it's got like some kind of radary vague waves coming off it. Like you, you don't know.

• 44:44Speaker 01

  The car is sweaty.

• 44:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Like I, I don't know what any of these shits are. But I tried turning everything off that will, that would go off. And the driver monitoring did not turn off.

• 44:56Speaker 01

  You know who will figure out how to turn that off? Cab companies.

• 45:00Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 45:01Speaker 01

  Once they get their hands on these, they'll have someone who just.

• 45:04Matt Farah?

  That could be the, you know, that could be the other thing. They may not be buying, I mean, cabs, our cab companies are probably buying used Priuses anyway, but like possibly if, if they're using them for passenger transport, you know, not fleets, particularly if now that we know the Camry is like the same price. If you've got a fleet, you're buying Camrys for sure.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 45:22Matt Farah?

  For sure.

• 45:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:23Matt Farah?

  Anyway, I enjoyed the Prius mostly.

• 45:25Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 45:26Matt Farah?

  It's cool.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  Was it Jaguar?

• 45:28Matt Farah?

  You want to look at the Jaguar Type O1, which was, uh, revealed finally last week while we were, or two days ago, three days ago. And, um, shocker, it looks kind of like the camo one.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. The, the test.

• 45:46Matt Farah?

  Like the test car. You know, you looked at the test car and they went, you know, it's not going to look like that, right? Right up to that, uh, hotel room, air conditioner, uh, rear end. They actually, they kept that. Now, I gotta say, I like that they have gone for it. I like that they have, you know, made a car that looks not just like no Jaguar before it, but really not like any car before it, you know, for the most part. It looks like some concept cars that we've seen before. Uh, I think Lieberman put up a picture of the Cadillac 16 concept car, which has

• 46:27Speaker 01

  Super long hood.

• 46:28Matt Farah?

  Super long schnoz. Yeah. Um, but you know, luxury is, a, a car is perceived as luxurious when it has a very long dash to axle ratio. And when it has very large wheels versus its total height. So they have done that here.

• 46:48Speaker 01

  True.

• 46:48Matt Farah?

  Uh, both of those, they get a two for two on that.

• 46:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. The distance from the top of the front tire to the top of the hood is like four inches. It's very slim.

• 46:56Matt Farah?

  Apparently those are 23s on that thing. Um, and then the, the distance from the dashboard to the center of the front axle being very long is, is probably similar, if not longer to most, than most Rolls Royces.

• 47:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. There's definitely like a villainous opulence to it. You know, it would work for, uh, Bruce Wayne, or it would work for the bad guy too. And I think it has no rear windshield or very small.

• 47:24Matt Farah?

  Which is Bruce Wayne. Right. Just wondering. Let's get into that.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's a great point. It's like, is Batman the bad guy? Those are fun, fun arguments.

• 47:33Matt Farah?

  But, uh, you know, I don't, I don't love the air conditioner back. The front, um, looks almost like you tron'd a Chrysler 300.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  Or a Range Rover.

• 47:43Matt Farah?

  Or a Range Rover. But I do actually think the side profile is quite interesting. Um, it's going to be a thousand horsepower because of course, why, why would it not be? And, uh, electric. And, um, that may prevent some people from buying for sure.

• 48:03Speaker 01

  Well, cause what are they going to sell us for? Like 170, they think.

• 48:06Matt Farah?

  Is that what it was?

• 48:07Speaker 01

  Something like that.

• 48:08Matt Farah?

  From this angle, it looks very much like an R35 GT-R, doesn't it? The way the.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  This section does very much. So the, the side windows have that like, there's just that way that the, um, what's the word I'm looking for? Like the spread as you go forward is very similar. Yeah.

• 48:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 48:26Speaker 01

  The R35 GT-R.

• 48:27Matt Farah?

  And the way that the roof sort of tapers in and meets the deck line there. That, that's R35-ish to me as well, a little bit.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  I agree. So you have a reverse looking camera inside of a reverse win, or instead of a, a window in the back. And then you had this, uh, the air conditioning unit, rear grill is weird. Maybe they'll, maybe that will get changed.

• 48:48Matt Farah?

  Have we seen where the trunk is? Like, and how you get to it?

• 48:52Speaker 01

  Someone, I, I, one of our colleagues went there. I can't remember if it was not possible, somebody else. They said that the trunk is surprisingly small, considering how big this car is and that it's a luxury vehicle. It's not a, it seems like a not great GT vehicle because the trunk is kind of small, which is a shame.

• 49:08Matt Farah?

  That's.

• 49:08Speaker 01

  When it's enormous like this. Cause when I look at this thing, I go, okay, let's drive across Europe comfortably, quickly, quietly with four people and bring whatever bags you want. Cause this is a giant, giant thing. Now maybe.

• 49:22Matt Farah?

  Maybe there's a trunk we don't know about?

• 49:24Speaker 01

  That'd be great. If there's a huge trunk up there, like a Lucid, then that would solve that problem. But what I read is that the, the trunk in the back is not that's big.

• 49:33Matt Farah?

  That, that can be disappointing.

• 49:35Speaker 01

  Let's see if there's.

• 49:35Matt Farah?

  You don't, you don't want a big luxury sedan to not have. I mean, the, the interior to me, is that a drawing or is that a photo?

• 49:46Speaker 01

  It's from Jaguar. People said they took their phones away when they went to launch for it.

• 49:50Matt Farah?

  I mean, this interior doesn't really impress me. It's a little boring.

• 49:53Speaker 01

  No, someone described it as dentist office. I think it might, yeah.

• 49:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's corporate. It's, it's not, uh, it's not that interesting. I mean, you got, there's two tablets. There's a deep dashboard. There's a fairly basic looking door panel.

• 50:12Matt Farah?

  With trim that kinda doesn't line up right.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  Look at that step up is interesting. So behind the the screen where the gauges are, you know, you have a very flat dashboard and then there's like a three, two or three inch rise, like a little cliff that goes to the hood.

• 50:26Matt Farah?

  You think there's a second screen there?

• 50:29Speaker 01

  Oh, maybe this is a second screen. Maybe that's like a soundbar, like a giant speaker.

• 50:32Matt Farah?

  Oh, maybe that would be a good place to put speakers, actually. It's, it doesn't, it doesn't blow me away here, this interior.

• 50:40Speaker 01

  I need a different color. Like, there might be, it looks like there's some clever storage here with these, you know, little like cabinet doors.

• 50:48Matt Farah?

  Dude, I don't know about an armrest that curves towards me from the center. You, you need an armrest to be a flat surface on top. Oh, is there, is there a flat surface on top or does that curve away from a center line?

• 51:02Speaker 01

  It looks like it curves.

• 51:03Matt Farah?

  It looks like it curves away from a center line.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, it looks like this is, yeah, it drops down. So, but if you, you know, you put your arm on it pressing this way, it might be great for a little bit, but you can't like rest your arm on top completely relax, relax. Let's see.

• 51:17Matt Farah?

  That tablet, look at that tablet. That does not impress. That is basic, basic tablating right there. That looks like the tablet that comes with a hot tub.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, it controls your home feeder system in 2019.

• 51:32Matt Farah?

  This is universal remote.

• 51:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:34Matt Farah?

  It worked for Phillips, LG and Sony. That's, what is that thing?

• 51:41Speaker 01

  It just says, I don't know.

• 51:43Matt Farah?

  Along with a digital, yeah, that's just, yeah, it said nothing. Doesn't say anything. Cup holders, yep. They flip open, yeah. What is it? Yeah.

• 51:53Speaker 01

  Design vision.

• 51:54Matt Farah?

  Design vision, that's what it says on there. I don't, I don't have a lot of faith that those seats are gonna be sculpted properly. Look at those seats. Go back up.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  What is this?

• 52:03Matt Farah?

  Is that a map of Australia?

• 52:05Speaker 01

  Well, we're looking at the back of the headrest and there's like a yellow blotch on it that maybe is supposed to replicate the profile of Jaguar's head, but looks like a stain. It does, it looks a bit like your grandfather zipped up too quickly.

• 52:21Matt Farah?

  It looks, is the fabric a little too natural? Those seats do not look comfortable. That is not a seat that's sculpted like a body.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  Well, I, we gotta go where we can see more seats than that, but they're better. Like here.

• 52:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, right there.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  That's not bad.

• 52:38Matt Farah?

  Okay, I don't think so. I think it's not great. I don't know. That, that looks like urine in that headrest. Very much looks like urine.

• 52:46Speaker 01

  No trunk fixtures.

• 52:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, okay. I mean, I think some angle's good, other angle's not so good. Interior maybe a little questionable.

• 52:54Speaker 01

  It is cool that it looks like a, the concept car. And I know that when the concept came out, I was one of the people who was like, this is ridiculous. But art for art's sake. So if they wanna step out and do something really different, then all right, take your swing. And I think it's a cool looking shape. But the question would be, if it doesn't carry occupants and stuff well, are the people in the market for $170,000 sedan going to skip Mercedes, BMW, Audi, which do all those things well, just to have something that has like a lot more stylish. And I think that's, that's the question Jaguar has hoped the answer would be yes to for 80 years. And I don't know if it's gonna work out.

• 53:33Matt Farah?

  Well, and also the, like, when I drove like the Maybach S580, whatever, limo Mercedes, it had a pretty small trunk because like the, the reclining back seats and the fridge and like all that shit took up all that space. So does this have a small trunk because the backseat is limo-like and opulent?

• 53:54Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 53:55Matt Farah?

  Or because it's actually just not designed that well?

• 53:58Speaker 01

  Good question.

• 53:59Matt Farah?

  So I don't know what the interior and the rear seat looks like. Excuse me. Oh, is that it? That's a trunk? That is a trunk and that doesn't look as bad as was described.

• 54:17Speaker 01

  Pretty shallow, I would say, to defend myself.

• 54:21Matt Farah?

  I think, I bet you can fit four rollerboard bags back there.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  Four carry-ons.

• 54:29Matt Farah?

  I think you probably could.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  I agree, but I will say that in a car that, I should look up the measurements, looks huge.

• 54:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:36Speaker 01

  Having only four carry-ons is pretty small.

• 54:38Matt Farah?

  Sure. Maybe there's a frunk.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  Maybe there's a frunk. If there's a frunk, then I will, I'll retract all my statements.

• 54:44Matt Farah?

  It would be pretty silly to make a car this big and not have storage for some stuff.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 54:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Or not have a frunk.

• 54:54Matt Farah?

  Ask, ask the internet if it has a frunk.

• 54:58Speaker 01

  Ask the internet a second question. How much water are we using?

• 55:01Matt Farah?

  Dude, you don't even, you ain't even know it. It's actually, my, my fucking electric bill here is crazy, crazy. The frunk is tiny. It says in that, in that Inside EVs, the frunk is tiny despite the gigantic hood. They wouldn't show me. Okay. I'll take his word for it on that one.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  All right.

• 55:21Matt Farah?

  Okay, well, maybe limited on the luggage space. I do want to try one. I hope we get to drive one. That would be very cool.

• 55:30Speaker 01

  Very cool. Apparently they drive pretty well, at least the.

• 55:33Matt Farah?

  Who drove one?

• 55:33Speaker 01

  Harris drove the test mule.

• 55:35Matt Farah?

  Oh, he did?

• 55:35Speaker 01

  I think, maybe Jethro, but I know Harris did. I like, I hope he's a little bit more on the nose.

• 55:44Matt Farah?

  Torchinsky, yeah.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  I'm appalled the new Jaguar doesn't have a frunk.

• 55:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, insist on frunk. For the record, again, I've owned two EVs now, one for three years, one for two years. I have used the frunk zero times.

• 56:00Speaker 01

  America is not about owning what you use, man. It's about what you might use.

• 56:03Matt Farah?

  I might one, I might one day have a shrimp cocktail in the frunk.

• 56:07Speaker 01

  What if one day I wanna be able to fire a machine gun out of a Jeep the one time I decide to off-road it somewhere?

• 56:12Matt Farah?

  The Mach-E's frunk being usable as a cooler is fucking money for real, though. If you were tailgating, like, that is actually quite money.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:22Matt Farah?

  To have a drain in there and be able to fill that motherfucker with sodas and, and cases of soda.

• 56:29Speaker 01

  If you were a tailgating person, which you are not, but they're, they're out there.

• 56:33Matt Farah?

  I am for Pearl Jam.

• 56:36Speaker 01

  Oh, that's true.

• 56:36Matt Farah?

  I will, I will happily, happily, giddily tailgate a concert. And if I am going to a, a sporting event for some fucking reason, and tailgating is a part of the local culture, oh, I would partake.

• 56:52Speaker 01

  You gotta get your Mach-E back. Throw some ice in that thing.

• 56:55Matt Farah?

  Dude, yeah, press Mach-E. Let's go. We need, we need fucking frunk shrimp cocktail. Did anyone outside of that one journalist actually do shrimp cocktail in the frunk?

• 57:08Speaker 01

  Anyone in the, shrimp cocktail, I doubt it. Cooler for drinks, probably.

• 57:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I would hope they would do cooler drinks. That was one of the great, I have to give Ford credit for one of the great journalist trolls of the press photos with the shrimp cocktail in the Mach-E, in the Mach-E frunk. I did like that very much. Should we go to the people?

• 57:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:31Matt Farah?

  I think we probably should. I feel like we should, right?

• 57:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:35Matt Farah?

  Did you say 40 minutes?

• 57:36Speaker 01

  Forty-six.

• 57:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, I set my clock incorrectly? I guess we didn't start for a few minutes after I set the clock. Hmm, how about that?

• 57:44Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 57:46Matt Farah?

  But we have lots of questions, so we should go to them. Before we do, we gotta plug our Time to Drive Miami gig. We are playing at the Time to Drive Festival in Miami, Live Smoking Tire Podcast. That's gonna be November 7th, Saturday. And if you are a TST patron, you post that code. If you are a TST patron of any tier, you can come see that podcast for free, along with the purchase of your ticket. We have a code of your ticket to the Time to Drive Festival. On the Patreon page, we posted the code that will get you 100%

• 58:26Matt Farah?

  off your podcast ticket. So come see us in Miami. Of course, the Tactile Turn pens are up with the, the show notes, so you can, we have a few of those left. And I don't think I have anything else to promote. Willow Springs Reimagined, October 17th. Come on out and play at the track. Right. If you wanna ask us questions for the show, get the live stream, get the show ahead of time, get the show without ads, get extra show, and get access to things like free tickets to our show in Miami and other exclusive collabs, merch, et cetera. Patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast is how you do it. Tears starting at just $399.

• 59:08Matt Farah?

  Listen and sometimes watch says, I have a 981 Cayman S with poorly cared for paint and a lot of rock chips on the hood and bumper. It's worth 45 to 50K. What the fuck does that say? Would you?

• 59:23Speaker 01

  I don't know why I did that.

• 59:24Matt Farah?

  Would you touch them up and do a full paint correction with ceramic coat for $1,500? Repaint the hood and bumper or leave it as is? But would I do? If the car's already fucked, I mean, a lot of, a lot of rock chips. I would, I would, the first question is, how much longer are you gonna keep this car? Are you, is it sentimental and you're gonna keep it for five to 10 years? Are you gonna keep it maybe another year or two? Like, what's your plan? Because that is pretty much how I would, like, I wouldn't put money into it necessarily if I plan on selling it soon. If I wanted to keep it for a really long

• 1:00:09Matt Farah?

  time, I might repaint the hood and bumper. Maybe consider PPF if your day-to-day driving involves that many rock trips.

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  I would do paint, filling every one of these chips, and a lot is in capital letters. So I'm assuming, filling all of those with paint, and then I think that the paint on those holes would be fresher than the paint around it. And then if you're gonna cover it with paint correction, like, that's just, seems like too much. I would just get a respray on the bumper and the hood. At least those panels would be uniform. And if, only if you're gonna keep it. Otherwise, just leave it and just embrace the, the patina.

• 1:00:45Matt Farah?

  I mean, that's the other thing, is you could just embrace it and then drive it without worry, you know? So it really, the first question is, how long are you keeping it? And the second question is, will making that front end nice make you afraid to drive it in the way that you wanna drive it?

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:01:05Matt Farah?

  That's, that could be problematic. You really wanna be able to drive it in a manner where you're gonna get those rock chips again and it's not gonna bother you.

• 1:01:15Matt Farah?

  Answer ye that and you will be good. Evan Cruz said Rivian announced they're removing seat ventilation from the R2 seat backs due to NVH complaints, but there's rumors of supplier shortages. Seems like a big miss on a 50K premium SUV. They didn't address it until all the social media backlash.

• 1:01:39Matt Farah?

  Between the range misses and now sudden offering changes. Have they been missing ranges? I don't know that single accusation here. It seems like they're ready to fumble the product.

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  Edmonds has an article that says their R2 underperforms in our real world range test, but to them it's not a deal breaker.

• 1:01:57Matt Farah?

  Okay, how underperformed is it? That's good to know.

• 1:02:01Speaker 01

  It fell 26 miles short of its 330 mile EPA estimate. So it hit 304, but not 330.

• 1:02:06Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:02:12Speaker 01

  I mean, 300 is enough for me. It is obviously disappointing that they said we will do this based on, you know, the EPA rated it that. And I mean, Edmonds has pretty structured tests. Like, these aren't, it's not like they're out there doing launches, but then reporting that the range has gone down. So that's pretty surprising.

• 1:02:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's interesting. Are they removing seat ventilation from just the seat back? But it's, they have it in the seat bottom? Or are they removing it from the entire car?

• 1:02:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I don't know. That's a bummer, though. I liked the R2. I like it better with cooled seats, for sure.

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  Newer R2 models no longer push air through the seat backs because the company found the fans to be too loud.

• 1:03:00Matt Farah?

  They were loud.

• 1:03:01Speaker 01

  They were loud.

• 1:03:02Matt Farah?

  They were loud.

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  I think it was like eight years ago, we were driving some Chrysler, maybe a Challenger. But I remember Dodge's seat back fans were louder than anybody else's. And I thought it was broken.

• 1:03:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:12Speaker 01

  But it was just that it was level three. If I went down to one, it was fine. But most other cars, I've never had that complaint.

• 1:03:17Matt Farah?

  Funny.

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I mean, that's possible. They were loud. I mean, so, okay. Christian James, handbrake. I'm traveling to Japan in a few weeks and will be driving there for the first time. I've driven right-hand drive a bunch in the States, but any tips for driving on the other side of the road? Yes, the driver is always in the middle. The driver is always in the middle. So if you're on the right-hand side of the car, the left-hand side of the road puts the driver in the middle. So when you make that turn, you want to end up where the driver is in the middle.

• 1:03:52Speaker 01

  Like, if there's a median, you are in the middle, next to the median.

• 1:03:55Matt Farah?

  Next to the line. Yeah. The driver's in the middle of the road, always.

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  I think if this person, if you've driven right-hand drive in the United States, it will be so much easier in Japan where the roads are designed for right-hand drive.

• 1:04:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it'll make a lot more sense.

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Go by a C4ZR1. Did you see Clarkson auctioning three of his grand tour cars? Which would you choose? I did see that. I like his Lancia Monte Carlo, I think, probably.

• 1:04:22Speaker 01

  What's he selling? An Alpha GTV6 and a 78 Lincoln Continental Marks V? I was gonna say I would take his off-road Bentley.

• 1:04:31Matt Farah?

  No, he's not selling that.

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  I know, but...

• 1:04:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Lancia, for sure. Because I've driven one of those Alphas before and it's fine. But, and the Lincoln is so big.

• 1:04:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:45Speaker 01

  Oh, man. But that Lancia is a good-looking car.

• 1:04:48Matt Farah?

  It is.

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:49Matt Farah?

  I like that. Koji Koji, what do you think of the internet banter and divide between track guys and canyon enthusiasts?

• 1:05:00Speaker 01

  It won't be settled until there's bloodshed. And I mean, fighting. Let's, let's meet up in the middle of a freeway somewhere.

• 1:05:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they should take it to the streets. No, no, they should take it to the track. No, no, they should take this to the streets.

• 1:05:10Speaker 01

  That's funny.

• 1:05:11Matt Farah?

  No, they should take it to the track.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  Is there, I have never been, like, no one's ever talked shit to me or given me crap for being a canyon person.

• 1:05:19Matt Farah?

  That's because you're not on the internet talking about this.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:05:22Matt Farah?

  You just, you just like decide to go to the track, or you decide to go on a drive on the street, and then you don't need to make like a big thing about it. You just do it.

• 1:05:32Speaker 01

  I guess, I guess there's a rivalry. I don't know.

• 1:05:35Matt Farah?

  I mean, I'm sure there are people that think any and all spirited canyon driving is, you know, morally indefensible and, and think that you should only ever go, you know, enjoy a car at the track.

• 1:05:49Speaker 01

  I will say, if you are a canyon person and you are trying to brag to a track person and you're like, I bet I'm way faster on this public road than you are. You are, you're wrong in that argument.

• 1:05:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  Like, go, because just, if you say, if you think you're a better driver, go to the area that is sanctioned for that, which is a racetrack, and then you can find out. But bravery and stupidity do not make you a more skillful driver.

• 1:06:10Matt Farah?

  No, for sure.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  Yeah. But if there's, it'd be funny if there's like real beef between them. I don't know.

• 1:06:15Matt Farah?

  It's, it's really funny when the biggest losers you know fight. That's just a universal truth of, I mean, look, Mark Burnett, you know, who made all the reality shows in history, from The Apprentice and all. Mark Burnett knows, and he will tell you, and he will show you on screen. Put the biggest losers possible on camera and let them fight it out. And that is your show. That's the entire show.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  It's, you know, when I was 23, I was a skateboarder and I thought rollerblading was the dumbest thing in the world. And now, as an adult, I go, it's way more efficient to get around and roll. You know how easy it is to get around on rollerblades? Pleasurable.

• 1:06:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:54Speaker 01

  Fun, smooth.

• 1:06:55Matt Farah?

  Should we buy rollerblades?

• 1:06:56Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:06:58Matt Farah?

  Where does one even buy rollerblades today?

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  Internet has everything.

• 1:07:00Matt Farah?

  For sure.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  There's definitely, in Santa Monica, there's stores.

• 1:07:03Matt Farah?

  If you wanted to buy rollerblades today.

• 1:07:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:06Matt Farah?

  Would you, would you research, like, the new rollerblades? Or would you find the ones you had back in the day? Because I know what I would do.

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  I wouldn't find the ones I had because I don't remember or care.

• 1:07:20Matt Farah?

  You don't?

• 1:07:20Speaker 01

  No, I had four-wheeled, they were good. But I would just find whatever works for my purpose.

• 1:07:25Matt Farah?

  You weren't a Lightning TRS kid like me?

• 1:07:28Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:07:28Matt Farah?

  I was fucking diehard Lightning TRS.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  I can't recall. I remember, I remember where I used to rollerblade and the stairs that I used to jump, but I don't remember what I had.

• 1:07:37Matt Farah?

  If you Google a picture of rollerblade Lightning TRS, you will, this is an iconic image. If you are in your 40s, man or woman,

• 1:07:49Matt Farah?

  the early ones, yeah, the all-black, the black with yellow. That one. That shit, the black with the, with the turquoise? That is the iconic early 1990s rollerblade. Everybody, me and everyone I knew had a pair of these motherfuckers. I wonder what, and then you gotta go, because now you, you buy a pair of vintage on eBay or something. You gotta go to like Sherford and have the make-you-crazy insults.

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  Here, look, a hundred bucks, Lightning TRS's.

• 1:08:18Matt Farah?

  Hell, yeah, dude. Hell, yeah. Let's get a couple, let's get some of these.

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:08:25Matt Farah?

  I also had the Aero Blade at one point, but the Lightning TRS was where it's at.

• 1:08:32Matt Farah?

  You ever see the Aero Blade? These ones are a little more like, yeah, down, second row, second, that. That's the Aero Blade.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  I might have had these.

• 1:08:43Matt Farah?

  This one, these had, this was a little more ski booty.

• 1:08:49Matt Farah?

  That's when you really got, that's not.

• 1:08:50Speaker 01

  My friend had these. He was into doing rails and stuff.

• 1:08:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  So he had those with like the smaller wheels on the, in the inside.

• 1:08:56Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 1:08:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were fun. I rented rollerblades like four years ago with Sarah for my birthday in Santa Monica. And I was like, this is so fun, just cruising on the boardwalk.

• 1:09:04Matt Farah?

  Instantly good at it?

• 1:09:05Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:09:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, muscle memory.

• 1:09:08Matt Farah?

  Kicks right in.

• 1:09:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, birthday parties at a roller rink, it comes back to you.

• 1:09:11Matt Farah?

  Well, you know, I dated Tracy, the Derby girl, and we used to go skate. That was like our workouts. We'd go on the board, on the fucking boardwalk in Hermosa and we'd rollerblade. I'd rollerblade, she would do quads.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  She'd push you over and like?

• 1:09:23Matt Farah?

  She'd practice like checking me into the beach. Yeah.

• 1:09:26Speaker 01

  Boom.

• 1:09:27Matt Farah?

  But I got some fucking hot boy bearings on there. I got some Abic 7s. I got 7s, yeah. Zing, that shit would fucking spin for like 60 seconds, dude.

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:38Matt Farah?

  Like the sustain on Jimmy Page's guitar. That motherfucker would be spinning until next year.

• 1:09:46Matt Farah?

  Bro, you know what I'm doing tonight? eBay Aero, Rollerblade, fucking, let's go, Lightning TRS's.

• 1:09:52Speaker 01

  You got a good hill, but it ends at a T, so remember, practice stopping first.

• 1:09:57Matt Farah?

  My neighborhood doesn't seem hilly until you're on a bicycle.

• 1:10:03Matt Farah?

  Oh my god, speaking of which, I gotta fucking, this is too crazy, we got a sidebar, like, there have been some break-ins in my neighborhood.

• 1:10:13Matt Farah?

  And the neighbors are not gonna take it anymore. The police have not been helpful.

• 1:10:19Matt Farah?

  Like, three or four break-ins in the last six weeks. All the same people. So it's two cars, a black BMW 3 Series and a white C-Class. And they stake out houses at night, and then they hit them during the day. That's their thing. They hit between like 1:00 and 4:00 PM. But the neighbors, there's now like a WhatsApp chat. These motherfuckers are like doing patrols now, they're like checking in. It's, these guys are itching to shoot somebody. It's getting crazy. They're like, the WhatsApp chat has gotten so out of hand, it's like, "I'm patrolling like the western edge like in 30 minutes." And someone's like, "Oh good, like I have to walk my dog, so I'm gonna patrol like the northeast." And it's like,

• 1:11:04Matt Farah?

  I know all these guys are walking around strapped. Like, they just, I can just, I can just tell. And one dude was like, "Let me find him," and like posted a picture of his like zip ties. And I was like, "Oh boy, this is getting crazy dude, it's getting real wild."

• 1:11:21Speaker 01

  I mean, community, like, community is important, and they say in the collapse of society, it's like the most important thing, but it can go a little far too early.

• 1:11:29Matt Farah?

  But for real, if you see a black BMW 3 Series, F80, uh, not, what's between F and G? I mean, in BMW, like 2016 to 2018 or so, is it early G Series? I think it's early G Series.

• 1:11:45Speaker 01

  Hmm, it was just, let's see, F, F30?

• 1:11:50Matt Farah?

  It's like a 2017, 2018, black 340 M Sport with chrome window surrounds, a paper fucking tag that says "Long Beach BMW" on it, and a sticker of a gorilla head on the trunk lid. You see that car, you fucking hit me up. I'm gonna send the fucking, round up a posse on WhatsApp. Guys, get some zip ties ready.

• 1:12:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, um, yeah, you told me the story this morning, and like, it's pretty unsettling.

• 1:12:22Matt Farah?

  But you got, you have to take a minute and scroll through the WhatsApp chat, cause it's insane. Uh, "No rolling on Sabas," very, very good.

• 1:12:31Speaker 01

  That's really great.

• 1:12:32Matt Farah?

  "What's the difference between a Phantom drophead, a Gen 1 Ghost, and a Wraith?" Well, there's like obvious differences, like those are just completely different cars, but, um, a Phantom drophead is the convertible version of the first gen Phantom, which is, you know, older architecture, right?

• 1:12:50Speaker 01

  Also two-door, not four, yeah?

• 1:12:52Matt Farah?

  Two doors, yes. Two-door convertible. A Ghost is the car that is the platform-shared BMW 760. A Phantom is its own thing. It has a BMW V12, but it is its own car. Ghost is shared with the BMW, and if you are someone of automotive taste and experience, you kinda can tell. Like, it's still, a Ghost is a beautiful car, and Rolls Royce does a great job, but like, if you've driven a 760, like, you can feel it under there. Um, and then the Wraith is the two-door fastback sporty version of the Ghost. I happen to think the Wraith looks pretty cool. Um, we've had a couple of them come through here at WCCS.

• 1:13:36Matt Farah?

  Um, they're sport, as sporting as a Rolls Royce gets, um, which is not very sporting.

• 1:13:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a 7 Series sporting, so it's capable, yeah, underneath. Good-looking car, though.

• 1:13:51Matt Farah?

  It's a very pretty car, and a used one is a good, is a good move. They're actually, if you service them at independent shops and not at Rolls Royce, they're not that expensive to keep going. Um, we just had to service one for a client, and it needed like, you know, like brake pads and rotors and, you know, just some stuff. It was like the 20,000 mile service, so it might have been like, you know, plugs and wires and shit like that. And I was pretty surprised at how not crazy the bill was. And he was like, "Yeah dude, it's all BMW parts, it's not, it's no big deal."

• 1:14:26Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 1:14:26Matt Farah?

  Um, "I bet you a Phantom costs a lot more to keep running than a Wraith or a Ghost does," yeah. "Matt Faraday's cat cage," there's like three different things happening in there, and I love it. Um, "Older manual transmissions are now," oh, excuse me, "older sedans with manual transmissions are now old enough to import like the Audi S8. Am I crazy for wanting one? Anything I should cross-shop it with that was available here?" Um, yeah, so you could get a E38 7 Series with a manual, like a sporty shorty, like the Transporter.

• 1:15:06Speaker 01

  That'd be cool.

• 1:15:06Matt Farah?

  That was available in Europe and not available here. Um, the S8 in a manual is pretty cool. People have done swaps here.

• 1:15:13Speaker 01

  That's a V10 one, is it?

• 1:15:14Matt Farah?

  No, it's the V8. It's the one like Scott O'Scott.

• 1:15:18Speaker 01

  Well, is it twin-turbo V8?

• 1:15:20Matt Farah?

  It's the NAV8, 360 horsepower. It's, it's the coolest car, but it's not like a great car. It looks amazing, really beautiful design. "Are you crazy for wanting one?" No, I totally get wanting one. Um, "Will it return the experience that you probably think it will?" I doubt it, you know?

• 1:15:48Speaker 01

  Is he, was talking about the Ronin car?

• 1:15:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:50Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:15:51Matt Farah?

  The Ronin car and the, uh, and the Transporter car are really what we're talking about here.

• 1:15:58Speaker 01

  I don't know, for me, once, once the cars get this big and aimed at luxury transportation, especially in the backseat, where like a car to be driven in, I feel like you get depreciating returns on the forbidden fruit thing, cause like, if we had, we have competitors to this here, they were available here. We have plenty of big luxury German sedans that were for sale that do the same job.

• 1:16:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:19Speaker 01

  So it's not like, you know, R34 Skyline, like, we didn't have anything like that here. So that's part of why that's so special and why bringing it here was so important, or Pulsar GTI. But this is like, man, you just can't find a big-bodied German sedan anywhere with a V8, like, there's so many offerings.

• 1:16:36Matt Farah?

  I would say that you might be likely to find a real, like, like, you really don't find, you're not gonna find a great Audi S8 here. A 2002, 2001, 2002 Audi S8, like, those fucking don't exist here anymore. Those were like, used up and scrapped, like, they weren't kept by anybody, like, it's been forever since I've seen one. Scotto has the only one of anyone I've ever heard of owning one, and his is a piece of shit. His isn't nice. So like, the thing is, like, maybe in Europe, somebody like has one, cause it's manual, it's like special ordered or whatever.

• 1:17:16Matt Farah?

  Maybe they've cherished it, and there's like a great example of this car in Europe with a manual, and like, if you love it, like, get that one rather than trying to unfuck whatever you could find here, for sure. But diminishing returns on the stick. The bigger the car, the less it being manual makes a difference, right?

• 1:17:37Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:17:37Matt Farah?

  Um, same with trucks and shit, like, you know, people are like, "Why didn't you get the Delica and stick?" Like, the fucking Delica, like, what are you kidding?

• 1:17:44Speaker 01

  The first time I drove a, what, the Chevy, the 2500, we had a Gotham, like the short bed one, and it had the Allison buttons shifter, and I was like, "This is what we want."

• 1:17:55Matt Farah?

  We don't, I don't need a clutch pedal in this fucking thing. Yeah, fuck that. I had the old Gotham truck. Oh, did you drive the old one?

• 1:18:02Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 1:18:02Matt Farah?

  The stick one?

• 1:18:03Speaker 01

  The super-long, you know, the super-long shifter, and like, I don't know, I've driven old trucks since high school, and like, they just don't feel fun.

• 1:18:11Matt Farah?

  They were better when the automatic was a three-speed and the manual was a five-speed, like, that was better, you know, like, back in the day. But now, the manual's a six-speed or a five, I think it was a six-speed with the Gotham truck, I think it was a dog-leg six-speed as a matter of fact.

• 1:18:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:27Matt Farah?

  And, uh, and the automatic is like an eight or a 10-speed, like, what are we even doing here anymore? Uh, anyway, "Cayman my asks," pretty good. Now that they've learned about, about how to use Cayman.

• 1:18:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:42Matt Farah?

  Uh, "I'm stuck between getting a Lotus Exige or an SLK55 AMG and manual swap it. I haven't been able to sit in any of them. Which would you go for? I'm six feet tall, 190 pounds, and live in your least favorite place for cars." Dude, which is Florida. Is there a worse place to have a Lotus than Florida?

• 1:19:07Speaker 01

  Unless you live by a track, yeah, that's what it's for.

• 1:19:10Matt Farah?

  There's no corners there, I, uh... If you can get a like if I don't know if Matt Quick can do it, I'm sure he can to manual swap an SLK 55, that would be a riot.

• 1:19:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:22Matt Farah?

  That gearbox in that car was a shit pile.

• 1:19:24Speaker 01

  But the engine was fun.

• 1:19:26Matt Farah?

  The car was fabulous and it handled well. It looked pretty cool. They're rare.

• 1:19:30Speaker 01

  Sound, they sound like they have twice the engine they should for the size of the car.

• 1:19:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they're meaty.

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  Good time.

• 1:19:35Matt Farah?

  But the automatic sucked.

• 1:19:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:37Matt Farah?

  In Florida, I'm gonna go with manual swapped. You know, SLK 55 or even, you know, you're a tall man, an SL, you know, an SL 63.

• 1:19:48Speaker 01

  Dude, that one we drove was really fun.

• 1:19:49Matt Farah?

  Would be sweet. That would be a good time.

• 1:19:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:52Matt Farah?

  And Quick can do that, too. So, power retractable hardtop, but I'm, I'm, I'm gonna vote Team SLK. Yeah. The tow truck that dropped your car got my first set of sticky 200 tread wear tires and took them for a canyon run. I can now see, uh, I can now drive faster than my visibility allows. Uh, what's been the, like, he could, he could outdrive his sightlines is what you're saying. You shouldn't do that in the canyons, even if you can.

• 1:20:22Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:20:22Matt Farah?

  I don't recommend it.

• 1:20:23Speaker 01

  Turn it down a bit.

• 1:20:24Matt Farah?

  I recommend backing it off a little bit. What's been the upgrade that has provided the best performance per dollar return?

• 1:20:33Speaker 01

  Oh, tires. I mean, I mean, I know he said that, but like, definitely tires.

• 1:20:38Matt Farah?

  Usually tires will do it. Um.

• 1:20:41Speaker 01

  Getting my C3 stuffed, not only a mod, but like, all of a sudden they hold me better, they're just more supportive, they look way better. You open the door of the car, everyone's more impressed by it. Uh, yeah.

• 1:20:53Matt Farah?

  If you've got a, you know, like a, like a, a sort of economy type car, like a, I mean, I don't want, not an economy car, like a hot hatch. Like, if you've got a Fiesta ST or a Focus ST or a GTI or Golf R, something like that, um, you know, your, your, your stage one tune, uh, does go a long way.

• 1:21:11Speaker 01

  Modern turbocharged, direct injected cars respond to tunes so well.

• 1:21:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:15Speaker 01

  And then if you can go stage two and free up the breathing, I, the dividends usually increase a lot.

• 1:21:21Matt Farah?

  Sure. Um, but generally tires, brake pads and brake fluid. Brake pads and fluid are cheap.

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:21:31Matt Farah?

  Really cheap.

• 1:21:32Speaker 01

  And those last.

• 1:21:33Matt Farah?

  And last a long time.

• 1:21:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:35Matt Farah?

  And, uh, and they return a big, big improvement, especially if you're going to the track. Yeah. Chevy U-Convict music, like that. Thoughts on the current sport truck trends in the Hispanic community? I've seen recently.

• 1:21:51Speaker 01

  You've had a lot of comments on the Hispanic community, Matt. What have you been saying?

• 1:21:54Matt Farah?

  I'm always considering what the Hispanic community is doing.

• 1:21:57Speaker 01

  I feel like this question is like, I don't know how we could even answer this.

• 1:21:59Matt Farah?

  No, I, I, I, I mean, dude, let them fucking do their thing. Uh, let, let anyone do their thing. But I have seen recently, I mean, the last six months, more, uh, short cab sport trucks lowered on rims, driving in groups specifically on LA freeways, not irresponsibly.

• 1:22:20Speaker 01

  Old trucks or newer trucks?

• 1:22:21Matt Farah?

  Like nine, young people, Hispanics, in early 2000s Fords and Chevys, on rims, paint jobs and wraps, lowered, big systems, driving in groups, obeying the speed limit.

• 1:22:39Speaker 01

  It's the thing. Well, Ford's supporting it. They came out with the Maverick Lobo, which is a hundred percent aimed at that community and bringing the sport truck thing back. Um, yeah, whatever people want to do.

• 1:22:47Matt Farah?

  I don't hate it. I don't hate it. Let them do it.

• 1:22:50Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:22:50Matt Farah?

  They're, uh, you know, they seem to be, uh, seem to be enjoying themselves.

• 1:22:54Speaker 01

  One of my first and funnest one takes with a fan car was a guy that had taken an old, like, Toyota pickup short bed and dropped it and he put, uh, smart car seats in it, it was manual transmission.

• 1:23:06Matt Farah?

  Why, why, why are smart car seats an upgrade?

• 1:23:09Speaker 01

  Because they had more bolstering. This thing kinda ripped in the canyons and I came back and went, I don't know how you did this, but kudos, you're a genius. It was like a really fun thing.

• 1:23:17Matt Farah?

  That dude's GMC Canyon untuned. It had like a, it had a big turbo in it. It made like 500 horsepower. We did like a million burnouts in Malibu. It's very silly.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  We did a lot back then.

• 1:23:29Matt Farah?

  It was a good time. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't like driving sport trucks, but I'm, I'm happy they exist and I'm happy that any community has a way to express themselves. Uh, I can't read this person's name, something, something.

• 1:23:42Speaker 01

  Civic is the wagon they gave me.

• 1:23:44Matt Farah?

  Civic is the wagon they gave me. I like that. I was just listening to some Tupac today and, and I was on shuffle and a song came on that I love called To Live and Die in LA and I wondered why I couldn't find it in my iTunes music library when I was looking for Tupac and I realized he released it under Machiavelli. You remember the Machi? He did a whole album, Alternate Name.

• 1:24:08Speaker 01

  I did not remember that.

• 1:24:08Matt Farah?

  And there's good tracks on that album that you just remember as being Tupac songs, like Live and Die in LA, but they're actually Machiavelli. Like, there's multiple good songs on that album. I don't know.

• 1:24:22Speaker 01

  I forgot he did that.

• 1:24:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, right?

• 1:24:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:24Matt Farah?

  Makes that shit hard as hell to find in your iTunes library. That's all I'm saying. But not.

• 1:24:29Speaker 01

  You can rename on a canyon.

• 1:24:30Matt Farah?

  But not if you happen to be driving the Ford GT prototype in Detroit because it's on that CD.

• 1:24:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:24:37Matt Farah?

  Uh, okay. Civic is the wagon that they gave me is in the market for a small commuter car. I commute 37 miles each way for work and I want something small, cheap and good on gas. My choices now are a 08 Honda Fit or a 1990 Honda Civic Waggon van. Both are about five Gs and would require approximately same amount of work to get them mechanically sound for daily driving, about 800 bucks, and I can do the work myself. What sounds better or more fun? I mean, dude, you're talking about a small commuter car, you're spending an hour a day in this thing for work. The idea of a Waggon van sounds awesome,

• 1:25:19Matt Farah?

  but in reality, dude, you're commuting in this thing. I gotta say Fit.

• 1:25:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:24Matt Farah?

  I gotta say Fit. The newer car is gonna be safer.

• 1:25:26Speaker 01

  That, a hundred percent. Like, Sarah got in an accident, my wife got in an accident in her Fit a couple of years ago. She was fine. It wasn't a huge crash, but like, I don't know, the older I get, the more I look at new cars and the advanced safety systems and if, these cars are effectively gonna feel the same. They're both gonna be slow, kinda loud, big greenhouse, they're small, they're gonna hold lots of stuff. Why not opt for the one that, uh, you know, is just going to be safer? I mean, unless it's the Waggon van that has like a turbocharged engine, all-wheel drive and they're jumping in at the dunes, like, that's, that's the hero?

• 1:25:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:58Speaker 01

  But it's not that.

• 1:25:58Matt Farah?

  It's not that. I, I, I love the idea of a Waggon van as a project, as a fun, a fun side project, but like, if you, if you have to drive this car in four seasons to work, to earn your living, to pay your rent, man, it's gotta be the newer car. 18 years newer is a lot. That's a lot, that's a lot newer.

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  Dude, the Fit's fun. You will have fun driving that car also.

• 1:26:24Matt Farah?

  By the standards of 2026, an 08 Fit is light and zippy and it, it, it'll be amazing, but like, you'll, you might survive the crash. The Waggon van, I don't really think so. Um, okay. VW Bang Bus, right on. I've seen plenty of videos online of potential carjackings or crazy people trying to attack someone's car. If a car has technology onboard that prevents the vehicle from hitting someone and then the driver is hurt or worse, do you think there's a level of responsibility or negligence from the vehicle manufacturer?

• 1:27:04Matt Farah?

  So, what you're saying is pedestrian safety systems, ADAS, if you're being attacked by someone in your car and trying to either run that person over or get away and the ADAS systems prevent you from doing that, does the manufacturer have a, have a responsibility?

• 1:27:28Speaker 01

  That's a very interesting question. Like, let's, let's say you're trying to carjack me. I see you approaching the front of the car and I floor it and the car stops itself. If I then hit the gas again, I mean, it's, it's an edge case that Honda or whoever hasn't probably tested, but I would hope that my input as a driver would override the computers,

• 1:27:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:48Speaker 01

  you know, need to spare life.

• 1:27:49Matt Farah?

  Once the car comes to a stop, ADAS will not prevent you from moving again. So, like, I'm pretty sure if you come to a stop and hold your foot on the throttle, after about a second, which may feel like the longest second in the world, it will let you go again.

• 1:28:07Speaker 01

  We should test this with some sort of like inflatable dummy thing. That'd be cool.

• 1:28:11Matt Farah?

  If someone actually did try to carjack me, or like if it was one of like those motorcycle where people surround you in a car on motorcycles? What are you doing? You're in a car. Just like, done. Like that's, that's it. It's you're done. Like, I don't know why you wouldn't just do that shit.

• 1:28:27Speaker 01

  I think people's first instinct is like, well, I don't want to damage my car. And by that time you process what's happening and think it through.

• 1:28:33Matt Farah?

  Too late.

• 1:28:34Speaker 01

  It's too late. That's why they do all the, like, all the military people do like defensive driving lessons. You have to learn the muscle memory to drive through the thing or push the car out of the way or whatever. You gotta practice it.

• 1:28:45Matt Farah?

  Or it just has to not be your car.

• 1:28:46Speaker 01

  Or if it's not your depressed car, you're like, hey.

• 1:28:49Matt Farah?

  You're in the, this is a government vehicle? Habibi, I'm coming through.

• 1:28:52Speaker 01

  Oh, that's true. Yeah. I'm gonna call Lotus and be like, hey, I'm so sorry.

• 1:28:56Matt Farah?

  You know, I may need to learn the muscle memory to fucking push a carjacker out of the way in my Countach, but not so much in a government issued fucking shit.

• 1:29:04Speaker 01

  You're totally right. Like, a car, I mean, is a very big object and it can get moving very quickly, no matter what power it has. Like, turn the wheel, whack someone with it.

• 1:29:13Matt Farah?

  Car versus motorcycle. That's not, that's no question.

• 1:29:16Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:29:16Matt Farah?

  That's no question. Get out of here. Uh, so is there a level of responsibility or negligence? I, I, I can't imagine that there is. There can't, you can't say that a manufacturer is negligent because it wouldn't let me intentionally run this person over.

• 1:29:33Speaker 01

  Or I think it's, they're spending most of their time focusing on pedestrian safety because what's happening more often is that people are getting hit by these cars accidentally versus developing the technology and the software to plan for carjackings. I just think that's, that's kind of an edge case.

• 1:29:49Matt Farah?

  This question is not a real question. Mariah, Mariah, wait, Mariah, carry you speed, oh, okay, carry. Mariah, carry you speed through this corner. Do you secretly judge people who wear their watch loosely? I don't know why it bothers me so much. No, I don't really. I judge peoples who, who I, I judge people to myself sometimes if I think their watches are like particularly trashy. But I, I won't, I don't say that to the people. And loose is okay. I like.

• 1:30:24Speaker 01

  I don't care how they wear their watch. I could not give a shit. Bigger problems in the world.

• 1:30:27Matt Farah?

  Much bigger problem.

• 1:30:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:29Matt Farah?

  Deactivate cylinder firing in the West Bank. With a few grand to spend, would you recommend a first nice watch? Like a used Rolex or a Grand Seiko or coilovers for my daily driven 997.2 currently sitting on H and R springs?

• 1:30:47Speaker 01

  Oh, watch.

• 1:30:48Matt Farah?

  A watch, probably.

• 1:30:49Speaker 01

  You will appreciate it far more often or frequently than you would coilovers on. If it's a daily, you already have springs on it. So you're using the stock damper, which we know is pretty good and it's probably fine.

• 1:31:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah. If you've got extra money and want to improve your 997, go ahead. But like, I would probably go with a watch. Especially a first nice watch. Going from zero nice watches to one is a big move. I would do that.

• 1:31:14Speaker 01

  I texted you, my car's in the shop right now for whatever. We'll talk about a different show. But I was like, oh, I've been wanting you to do shorter gearing. This is the time. So I tell Sandro at Avis Autosport, hey, I'm gonna do the gearing. He's like, great. And then I go, but da, but da, da. He's like, hey, go to this website. That's where you get the diff. I go, great. I'm all happy, excited. Type it in. $3,300 for the pumpkin with, with the new gearing and everything. And there's like a core change.

• 1:31:38Matt Farah?

  Yours as a core?

• 1:31:39Speaker 01

  You do, but you don't get $3,000 back. And I, I went, that's, I could do a lot more with that money that I would notice. Cause with my car, I don't track it. Like, it would be more fun.

• 1:31:49Matt Farah?

  But also that's a final drive, right? So your car would be spinning like 4,500 on the highway too?

• 1:31:55Speaker 01

  No, no. People say it spins like three grand at like 80 miles per hour.

• 1:31:58Matt Farah?

  Really? Oh, okay. That's, that's not bad. All right.

• 1:32:00Speaker 01

  It's really not that bad, but.

• 1:32:01Matt Farah?

  That's a lot of money.

• 1:32:02Speaker 01

  For this, like, you'll enjoy your watch more than you will having a new suspension on a car you daily drive, I think.

• 1:32:08Matt Farah?

  Pro, I think so too. And the car, the watch will outlast that car.

• 1:32:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:13Matt Farah?

  Chirizo Edition, a whiskey, wait.

• 1:32:16Speaker 01

  That's funny.

• 1:32:17Matt Farah?

  Oh, wait, what?

• 1:32:19Speaker 01

  A book recommendation.

• 1:32:20Matt Farah?

  Oh, a book recommendation. Ian Banks's Raw Spirit. He tours Scotland's distilleries but throws in a nugget. A lot of nuggets about his cars in the country's driving roads. Okay, will do.

• 1:32:34Matt Farah?

  Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should. You've talked about the dubious nature of cars that come out of Florida due to title washing. Does purchasing a car from Florida with a manufacturer's CPO warranty nullify that concern? Uh, no. Um, but, uh, first off, a CPO doesn't, doesn't negate a title issue. But also Florida's like real humid. Okay. They don't drive with their windows down. You gotta, if you're there in person and it's CPO at a dealer and you, it smells okay in that car. It's not like muggy or gross. There's not, the leather can get fucked up because everyone's got suntan lotion and shit on there all day.

• 1:33:19Matt Farah?

  Cars from Florida are gross. They're not just bad titled. So like, I advise again, there's 49 other states. I promise you, the car you want exists in another one of them. But if you must, then check out that shit in person because it may have a clean title and show up, you ship it across the country and wow, does this fucking thing smell like Sarasota in here?

• 1:33:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. Clean title, dirty car.

• 1:33:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:45Matt Farah?

  A million mile Lexus when I got it was Florida'd. Stinky.

• 1:33:49Speaker 01

  It had a flavor.

• 1:33:50Matt Farah?

  Oh my God, I had to fucking fumigate that bitch, dude.

• 1:33:53Speaker 01

  Tawar.

• 1:33:54Matt Farah?

  P car photos. I recently learned the Mark III Ford Focus RS was built in Germany, which caught me by surprise. Are there any cars that surprised you when you found out where they were manufactured?

• 1:34:10Speaker 01

  Uh, I don't know because part of our job when we get these press releases is it tells us where they're made. Some, I usually don't get surprised by it. Maybe when I was a kid, like learning that American cars were built in Germany with, on a, like, I think like the Focus AX3? Wasn't that built in Germany or developed over there?

• 1:34:28Matt Farah?

  Focus RS was, my Focus RS was also built.

• 1:34:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:34:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but, um, uh, I think, I think maybe back, back when I first realized that like, not all American cars were built in America and also a lot of quote foreign cars are built in America.

• 1:34:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:34:45Matt Farah?

  That sort of like spun things around a little bit.

• 1:34:47Speaker 01

  It's in Texas, yeah.

• 1:34:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And like Acuras are made in Ohio and BMWs are made in South Carolina. Like, it's, um.

• 1:34:55Speaker 01

  I think that might've been a surprise when we went to Spartanburg to go to the facility, the BMW facility for something and I, and I went, they have a what? Yeah. And they have a whole like driving course there? Where are we?

• 1:35:07Matt Farah?

  So I would, I know I wouldn't say necessarily, but I think when, wasn't the, didn't Porsche build something in like the Czech Republic or something? I can't, I, I, I don't, I don't actually recall, but I mean, none of it really surprises me anymore. It's a global, it's a global market.

• 1:35:26Speaker 01

  Their brakes, their ceramic brakes, I think were made in Ukraine.

• 1:35:29Matt Farah?

  A lot of parts come from the Ukraine.

• 1:35:30Speaker 01

  Not anymore, but yeah.

• 1:35:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, came from the Ukraine. Yeah, yeah. Um, is that it?

• 1:35:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, all right. Cool. All righty then. Thank you, everybody. That is a quality, quality bit of programming from your pals at the Smoking Tire. Uh, our patrons over at patreon.com slash the Smoking Tire Podcast, keeping the boat moving down the ocean. Get yourself, if you're in, speaking of Florida, land of clean titles, come see us in Miami, November 7th at the Time to Drive Pod, uh, Time to Drive Festival. Patrons get free tickets to our show anyway. And we'll see the rest of you in California, Willow Springs Reimagined on the 17th and, uh.

• 1:36:09Speaker 01

  It should be said, it seems like we're not doing a live show at Willow Springs. We're gonna be doing a show there from this observation tower, but there's not, the space doesn't work for an audience. So just so you know.

• 1:36:19Matt Farah?

  But we were hanging out the whole event. My, uh, my car's gonna be there. We may bring the giveaway car up there, um, as well. And, uh, yeah, it'll be a really fun time. There's a lot of vintage racing and cool stuff happening and celebrity drivers and this and that. It's gonna be fun. Thanks, everybody. We'll see you next time. Bye.