REALLY HER Ft. Meg Stalter | Episode 216

It’s really her!! Meg Stalter is on the show this week! Drew and Meg talk about clone accusations, being dressed matronly, Timothee Chalamet’s reaction to Meg wearing Kylie’s orange outfit during award season, poisoning people in Shakespeare improv, cake walks, pretending to be a lawyer, the Rainforest Cafe, and so much more. Meg IG: https://www.instagram.com/megsstalter/?hl=en Meg Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@megstalter Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/ VisitMacy’s https://www.macys.com/shop/product/calvin-klein-euphoria-magnetic-elixir-parfum-3.3-oz.? ID=25460226 to discover the new Calvin Klein euphoria elixirs. Euphoria Season 3 premieres April 12 on HBO Max, with new episodes every Sunday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Drew Afualo?

  That doesn't sound like a joke.

• 0:01Speaker 01

  No, I said, you guys were mean. I'm a lawyer now. And then she messaged me pictures of myself at the Rainforest Cafe. And she was like, yeah, you really seem like a lawyer. I'm like, well, lawyers could go to the Rainforest Cafe. Like, why does that prove I'm not a lawyer? Like, I'm like, starting to believe I'm a lawyer. I'm like, hey, don't make me take you to court. This was after one of my meetings.

• 0:31Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Common Section Show. Sorry, me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest today. We have the iconic, the legendary, the hilarious Meg Stalter.

• 0:45Drew Afualo?

  Welcome to the pod, queen.

• 0:48Speaker 01

  I love you.

• 0:48Drew Afualo?

  I love you.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  And when people see this, they're gonna say, those two people get along so well in your life and on screen.

• 0:55Drew Afualo?

  And it's obvious on camera. Their chemistry is electric.

• 0:58Speaker 01

  And she's not bugging the host.

• 1:02Drew Afualo?

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• 1:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45Drew Afualo?

  In the comments.

• 1:46Speaker 01

  You hated me.

• 1:47Drew Afualo?

  I loved you.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  No, I, could you imagine if you said, you really, really stunk that day?

• 1:52Drew Afualo?

  You were a tough pill to swallow at the time, I'll be honest. Imagine, I tell you that now.

• 1:56Speaker 01

  You're like, I wanted to bring you on to tell you, that made me really uncomfortable.

• 1:59Drew Afualo?

  Are you open to feedback in this current state?

• 2:03Drew Afualo?

  I'll say in the comments, a lot, a lot of people were saying like, this is the first time I've seen someone who gets Meg. And like, understands her.

• 2:11Speaker 01

  And now I can actually breathe, because that feels amazing.

• 2:14Drew Afualo?

  I agree. And they're like, I, someone wrote-

• 2:17Speaker 01

  And I agree, by the way, that you are the only one that gets me.

• 2:20Drew Afualo?

  I'm not kidding, when, something similar to that with me, is like, whenever I have someone, I'll probably get it with your episode, but when I have other huge celebrities, like when I had Chapel, when I had Cynthia Revo-

• 2:30Speaker 01

  Are you saying that I'm a huge celebrity?

• 2:31Drew Afualo?

  Yes, of course I am. Of course I am. Well-

• 2:34Speaker 01

  I'm gonna throw up. That makes me feel amazing.

• 2:37Drew Afualo?

  Whenever I have someone that's beloved, right? I'll get comments that are like, "I just like, really wish that the host would stop talking."

• 2:47Speaker 01

  That is so crazy.

• 2:47Drew Afualo?

  On my show. And I literally, with Chapel, it was out of control. Everyone was like, "I just feel, I just feel like she's talking a lot."

• 2:54Speaker 01

  But could you imagine if Chapel came on and talked the whole time and you said, and you didn't say anything?

• 2:58Drew Afualo?

  I sat in silence.

• 2:59Speaker 01

  And then she said, "I'm really excited to talk about my family by myself. Don't say anything, please. That would be so scary." She would never do that.

• 3:06Drew Afualo?

  No questions, questions at the end.

• 3:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:07Drew Afualo?

  No, I know, I, I had to make a video and I, I literally said like, "Unfortunately, when you watch my show, you're gonna have to hear me talk." Unfortunately.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  Well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to hear someone by themselves. I, I love Chapel. I wouldn't want to hear her by herself, unless I'm listening to her album.

• 3:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  By herself would be scary. I'd be scared. She doesn't want you to not talk.

• 3:30Drew Afualo?

  No, I know. Well, obviously, I was like, I was like, the only interview she did that year. So I was like, right, so clearly she enjoys hearing me talk. If you don't enjoy it, I'm sorry to, I'm sorry to hear that. I would catch her on Jimmy Fallon.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  People won't say that to me on this episode. They will say, "I wish that Drew talked more and I, and I wish that crazy white bitch would shut up." I know they're gonna say that. I already know it. I already know it. The comment I get the most, "Ah, yeah, I only like her in small doses. Keep her on hacks as a, as a smaller part." I'm serious.

• 4:00Drew Afualo?

  God.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  They will not say that to you.

• 4:02Drew Afualo?

  Well, no, and well, I mean, you say that now, but once I start acting, once my acting career takes off, bitch, they're gonna start, they're gonna wish they never heard from me in the first place.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  They're gonna always wanna hear from you. They will always be trying to arrest, arrest me.

• 4:16Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's also how I feel. I think honestly, we're the same in that like, and it is like, very annoying to see, especially when you're joking around and like riffing with someone and they're like, I don't know, did anyone feel like maybe this was for real? And maybe they actually fucking dislike each other? You're dumb.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  You could literally be doing a sketch on SNL and someone would be like, it felt off. Like, I don't know, like the vibe felt off. I think I watched, oh my God, there's, okay, there's a clip of Timothy Chalamet and Kylie. Timothy's sister walks up to them.

• 4:51Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:52Speaker 01

  Kylie gets up and just goes, I love your dress. The comments, she hates her dress. There's no way. She hates Timothy. Timothy's sister is hated by Kylie. Timothy's sister never wants Kylie to marry Timmy because of that clip. I, ah, I, I'm sorry.

• 5:09Drew Afualo?

  It's actually out of control. It's out of control, like the,

• 5:12Speaker 01

  It's so crazy.

• 5:13Drew Afualo?

  The parasocial commentary, I, I, this is a perfect example, at the Oscars, like when I did the snacks bit again, there were people in the comments of like, one, I think it was my clip with Chase Infinity. I was like talking to her. Love her. And so she really wanted a snack. She was like, oh my God, it's perfect. I have a pocket, whatever. The clip was real cute. It was like real innocent. And I was like, they don't have food in there. Like, do you want a snack? And then someone goes, actually, they for sure do have food in there.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  I'm, I actually am shaking right now.

• 5:45Drew Afualo?

  But they're like, I'm sorry, have you been to the Oscars?

• 5:47Speaker 01

  She didn't want the snack.

• 5:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  They actually give you chips in there in a box. That's so crazy.

• 5:53Drew Afualo?

  Someone literally wrote, I'm not kidding, to me, they wrote, "The way you're literally lying to her."

• 5:59Speaker 01

  "The way you're scaring her into eating your snacks, she doesn't want your snacks." That's so crazy.

• 6:05Drew Afualo?

  "The way you're lying to her is insane."

• 6:08Speaker 01

  It does make you feel, I think, like, and I could, I could kind of put myself in this place and, and see that they are, are thinking, "No, I know, and, and I want to be a part of it, and I wanted to tell them that I do know that, that they have snacks in there."

• 6:24Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  And I don't, oh, please, do not cut this podcast, oh, Meghan's acting like she, she like hates her fans, or something because I was saying that. Do not do a viral clip of me, please, I can't handle it right now, I really need to win. We're fostering a dog right now, we can't find him a home, please, don't do that to me, I don't need it right now, I'm serious. Do not do a clip of me in this podcast and make it go viral in a bad way, I'm...

• 6:48Drew Afualo?

  Someone, uh, asked me once, like, that, that blew up, like, on social and started doing this for a full time, they were like, "I'm really scared of getting cancelled, like, do you have any advice for me?"

• 6:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:58Drew Afualo?

  And I said, "Yeah, my advice is to accept it because it will happen, it happens to everyone, it's just the nature of the game." It doesn't mean you're a bad person, it means that when you are the center of attention, there are going to be people who are praying for something bad to happen, and that's just the unfortunate reality of being online. And I, and I've said this many times too, I'm like, "A lot of times when people have a lot to say about influencers and like, why it should be okay that they do these dogpiling things, I'm like, some of you wouldn't last a fucking day on the internet." Like, if you for real had the following and the attention,

• 7:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:35Drew Afualo?

  Some of you wouldn't last a day. Like, there's a reason why people like Ariana Grande have explicitly gone on record saying, "I never read anything about me and I never look at comments."

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Me too, yeah.

• 7:44Drew Afualo?

  I read all of it too, every single bit of it.

• 7:47Speaker 01

  Every single thing. There was someone that messaged me, I, I can't, this isn't gonna be funny because I can't, I don't know the names of the characters they were saying I looked like.

• 7:55Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  But one day, the other day, they sent me a character and I, I, that was like, he was like, "Wow, you look just like this person." And I thought it was like a fan because I thought that character is cute to me.

• 8:09Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 8:09Speaker 01

  Like, it was like, uh, yeah, it was, it was a bigger character.

• 8:12Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  And it was probably, you know, it was kind of fucked up too. But it was kind of like, I thought it was cute. It was probably from like, yeah, some sort of, what's that cartoon where there's like, I don't know, I don't know, it was some sort of cartoon.

• 8:24Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  And then he sent me a meaner character and I thought, "I have to block you now, okay?" Two mean characters, but can you imagine like, that was days apart, like, you sent me one mean character so I look like this, then you wait a couple of days, send me a worse character?

• 8:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they're like, "Actually, I want to take that one back. I had a better one."

• 8:42Speaker 01

  I don't care at all.

• 8:43Drew Afualo?

  No, for real.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  I've had the meanest comments. I could literally, it doesn't matter, every single, I, huge projects I've worked on for years, mean comments about my performance. Who cares?

• 8:53Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  But the people saying mean stuff to us, like, that would be, they would care.

• 8:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they, you would care a ton. Like, I've, I've said before, it takes a very specific kind of personality to survive it. You're either like, I think that's why in Hollywood especially, and you probably know this better than I do, like, when you meet stars, like, they're either the coolest, most awesome person, or the worst person you've ever met. There's no in-between.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  I know. Pure evil or pure heaven.

• 9:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and you know why? Because it takes a pure person to survive, or a truly evil person to survive. You know what I'm saying?

• 9:28Speaker 01

  That is so interesting.

• 9:29Drew Afualo?

  And I think that's why stars are like, it's either one or the other. There's never anyone where you're like, "Yeah, they're okay." It's either someone you love dearly, or someone that's like, "I never want to see that person ever again."

• 9:39Speaker 01

  I wish the whole rest of podcasts was naming each celebrity and you saying who you think's evil, who you think is good. Jim Carrey. It's hard to tell right now, isn't it?

• 9:48Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, Jim Carrey. That is a crazy thing that happened.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:51Drew Afualo?

  Imagine going to the party and then logging on to Twitter after.

• 9:54Speaker 01

  I know. I know, that is so.

• 9:56Drew Afualo?

  What are the girls saying about me? Like, what if you logged on and you're like, "Wow, I wonder if people liked my suit."

• 10:02Speaker 01

  It's also so crazy.

• 10:03Drew Afualo?

  And they log on and you're like, "Oh."

• 10:05Speaker 01

  He literally seemed so happy then.

• 10:06Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  Like, it's so sad because he did seem happy and he seemed like he was getting himself out there.

• 10:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  And it really felt like people just like, they can't even tell you you're not a clone these days.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  Like, he, he definitely seemed to be going through it like before and now it seems like he's back and he's happy to be in the public eye. And he, we will not see him for twenty thousand more years.

• 10:27Drew Afualo?

  No, I know. It's like actually, and that's, and that's a perfect example of like-

• 10:31Speaker 01

  And I thought he was a clone for an hour. I was thinking he was.

• 10:34Drew Afualo?

  I honestly thought it was AI in the beginning. Like, when I saw the pictures initially, I was like, well, there's no way he looks, you know?

• 10:40Speaker 01

  When Alexis Stone said on, um, their Instagram that they were, did you see it?

• 10:45Drew Afualo?

  No, no, no, no.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  So, there is this person who like transforms himself into celebrities.

• 10:50Drew Afualo?

  Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  And they said that that was them as Jim Carrey and people believed that. And I did.

• 10:56Drew Afualo?

  Oh, and you were like, oh, well, that makes sense.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, because the costumes are crazy.

• 11:01Drew Afualo?

  Oh, okay, wait, I think I know who you're talking about.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  It's like prosthetics.

• 11:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I think I know who you're talking about now.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 11:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well like-

• 11:06Speaker 01

  But I believe that. I believed the clone thing for a minute and then I was like, this is just him and-

• 11:11Drew Afualo?

  And you know what?

• 11:12Speaker 01

  It's really mean, you guys, to say someone's cloned. It's mean.

• 11:16Drew Afualo?

  I mean, I've gotten some pretty mean things. I think, I, I think men don't get it nearly as much as women do. Mean shit.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  So you're saying it's, it's, I mean, if one guy gets a, you're cloned comment?

• 11:25Drew Afualo?

  Well, yeah, well, I, I wish clone was the meanest thing I got. Shit. Sorry, I wish that-

• 11:30Speaker 01

  I would love to be called a clone once in a while.

• 11:33Drew Afualo?

  And I even, like, I sent Meg this, but like on our, one of our clips, like, someone wrote, uh, GLP ones are taking over Hollywood on the clip of you and I. And I literally wrote, writing this on a video of the two of us specifically.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  I've never seen that. I love that. I like, I like stuff like that.

• 11:51Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 11:53Speaker 01

  More of that is so funny.

• 11:54Drew Afualo?

  Someone wrote on one of my, uh, Oscars clips, they were like, can you guys please stop inviting this cow to the Oscars or to carpets or whatever the fuck? And then I literally wrote back, or what? What are you gonna do about it?

• 12:07Speaker 01

  Well, and I'm like speechless because I can't imagine someone typing that. Like, literally, you're the most beautiful woman.

• 12:14Drew Afualo?

  Thank you, I appreciate that, Meg. So are you.

• 12:16Speaker 01

  Someone typing that is so great sending it.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  For what themselves? Also, the private DMs are so scary, because I'm like,

• 12:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  You're laughing just to yourself.

• 12:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, when they're like, ha, ha, ha, like to their own meme shit.

• 12:27Speaker 01

  It's really crazy.

• 12:28Drew Afualo?

  It's really bad. People online are are ill.

• 12:31Speaker 01

  It's really crazy, and it's also crazy to to like, like, get so excited and follow influencers and be so excited for their journey. And then, once they get to a certain place, that's what I I I talk about that a lot, where it's like,

• 12:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  It's like, people are so excited for you until you're at a certain place, and then they're not. It can even be like, it could be colleagues.

• 12:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they, yeah, they turn on you kind of thing. It feels like, uh, my sister once described it as like, once you become almost unattainable to them or unreachable, and like, whether they think they could have done what you did, or they could be you, whatever. I get that all the time, too. They're like, I could easily do this.

• 13:11Speaker 01

  Well, it is, it is not easy. I I would be scared to do the celebrity interviews, by the way. Yeah, do you get nervous? I I I would be nervous. Kate Hudson.

• 13:23Speaker 01

  You look amazing tonight. What are you thinking right now? I would not be good at it. I got asked to do something like that before, and I'm nervous to do it, because I think like I'm I'm I could do like, if you want awkward, like, me not doing real questions, but it's really nerve wracking. You're so funny, and you also get real questions. So like, for me, they, I know everybody would hate my version of it. They'd be like, you let that person around Kate Hudson, and she had a listener that?

• 13:54Drew Afualo?

  I know. I, well, believe it or not, I get that, too, if you can believe it.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  I can't.

• 13:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and which is funny, because I've said before, too, like, my preference of short form interviewing like that is kind of like breaking the barrier between like celebrity and real person. So it's like,

• 14:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:09Drew Afualo?

  asking them or treating them like normal people. I feel like they appreciate it. Most often times, they appreciate it because they're so used to not being treated normally. And I think they enjoy it. I think they enjoy being met that way. And that's why I'm like, I like quippy, like silly, like watching. I mean, like, I said this about you and Zach Fox, but I was like, you two were my favorite to interview at Actor Awards.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  You didn't feel like I was being too crazy and you're kind of like, okay, put the fake cigarette down.

• 14:33Drew Afualo?

  No, you were killing me. I wish, I wish I could have just talked to you for even longer, honestly, and I would have.

• 14:38Speaker 01

  I had so much fun with you.

• 14:39Drew Afualo?

  Me too, likewise. And your clips did really, really well, obviously because you're fucking hilarious. And that's why I said people were like, this is the first time I've seen someone get her. Like, for real.

• 14:47Speaker 01

  There was a really long, long, long thing I did that I've not seen one second of and I'm going, how bad was I?

• 14:53Drew Afualo?

  I saw a few clips of you from that carpet. I saw one where you were talking about your dress.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  I was there for 10 minutes and I started improvising a whole scene. I haven't, they didn't use any of it.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  I was there for like 15 minutes to the point where my publicist was like, we gotta go. Like, and I, I was the one that kept it going. Like, I kept.

• 15:13Drew Afualo?

  And they didn't use a second of it.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  No.

• 15:16Drew Afualo?

  The camera wasn't even on, probably.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  I do, they do not want anyone to see the clip.

• 15:20Drew Afualo?

  Imagine we cut to a clip of you just talking to a bush, like there was no one there and you were doing a whole bit.

• 15:24Speaker 01

  It's my phone filming me?

• 15:26Drew Afualo?

  You're recording yourself.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  You were so fun. There is a clip though of, of me walking and you were trying to get my attention. It was really sad.

• 15:35Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  No, no, it, it wasn't sad for you. It's sad for me. I look insane. My girlfriend's way behind me trying to catch up. My publicist, you were like, hi, and I'm waving. Do you know this clip? I'm waving to like, well, I would call them fans, but they definitely were paid to be there and wave at me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

• 15:53Drew Afualo?

  Yes, the people across from me. Yeah. Those were all creators.

• 15:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:57Drew Afualo?

  They were invited.

• 15:58Speaker 01

  They were supposed to like, like, pump you up. And I, for some reason, it was going to my head and you were kind of like, can I come interview you? And I was like,

• 16:06Drew Afualo?

  No, when you came to me, you, you had sunglasses on, so I didn't know if you were looking at me, but I was right in front of you.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  I didn't see you.

• 16:13Drew Afualo?

  And then you were going, oh my god, it's you. Oh, thank god. Oh my god, you're all sorry.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  It makes me feel safe.

• 16:18Drew Afualo?

  You said, sorry, I was with the fake fans.

• 16:22Speaker 01

  Do you feel like the evil around you when you're at award shows?

• 16:25Drew Afualo?

  You know what, I, it's funny you say that because not-

• 16:29Speaker 01

  And of course heaven.

• 16:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And of course, it's my dream to be there. No, you're right. Um, I more so feel like a very like tense energy.

• 16:40Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 16:40Drew Afualo?

  The Actor Awards is actually the only place I never feel it. Like, I feel it at Globes, I felt it at the Oscars, I felt it at, um, the Emmys. But like at that one, that's the only one where everyone feels light and feels like happy. And it, I think it's because they're voting for their friends and they're having fun together and they're like, it's like internal, it's not the Academy doing it.

• 17:00Speaker 01

  That makes sense.

• 17:01Drew Afualo?

  So I, I think it's like this very tense, nervous energy. But the evil that I feel is when I go to like dinners or breakfasts that are hosted by huge like-

• 17:13Speaker 01

  The Oscar breakfasts.

• 17:14Drew Afualo?

  You know what I'm saying? Like these like things when they're like, oh, it's hosted by like these huge outlets and there's lots of A-list stars there. And then you go and you have like a seated meal and everybody's talking and they're giving each other awards.

• 17:27Speaker 01

  Yes. I know what you're talking about.

• 17:29Drew Afualo?

  At those, that's where I feel the most like Hunger Games-y.

• 17:34Speaker 01

  It feels literally-

• 17:35Drew Afualo?

  It feels very like-

• 17:36Speaker 01

  We're Katniss in the Capitol.

• 17:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it feels like drink this and throw up so you can eat more. That's how it feels in those. And I was talking to my friend about it too, cause I was like, when I was talking to her about it, I was like, sometimes they just say things where I'm like, you guys haven't been normal for a very long time. Yeah, I was like, I think it's bad outside. At least that's what everyone tells me.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  That being said, please, Oscars-

• 18:02Drew Afualo?

  I love ya.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  Globes, give us all-

• 18:04Drew Afualo?

  Would die for ya.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  Let us come and be the heaven among hell.

• 18:09Drew Afualo?

  The Actor Awards, uh, when you guys got to present.

• 18:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 18:13Drew Afualo?

  When your entire bit-

• 18:16Drew Afualo?

  I was laughing.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 18:17Drew Afualo?

  Laugh LMAO.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  It's a hard room.

• 18:19Drew Afualo?

  It is a hard room. When you said, can people sit down? We're talking.

• 18:23Speaker 01

  Well, I think people thought that I was sitting, like, I saw a comment that said, it's so funny she said that because people were probably standing clapping for them. And that definitely wasn't what was happening. It was that people actually were walking around. It was an interesting one because people actually walk around during people's speeches. And the other ones, you have to stay seated until the break.

• 18:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, like the Oscars and stuff.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:47Drew Afualo?

  They're very strict at the Oscars, especially.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  I bet. I mean, I've not been to the Oscars, but we'll get there one day. Ah!

• 18:55Drew Afualo?

  Well, I've been in a real, like, can you fold some chairs while you're in there kind of vibe? Like, that's why I was in there. Like, one time, when I did Oscar stuff last year, I was backstage during the whole show. And like, at one point, I was like, walking and I was on live. And I converged with Rachel Sennett. And we were like, meeting, we were talking, she's like, oh, I love you. I was like, same. And she's like, girl, let's get a drink. And then I go, oh, girl, I'm on the clock. And then she goes, right now? And I go, yeah. She goes, that sucks.

• 19:27Drew Afualo?

  You're right, it does suck, low key. I'd love to get a drink with you, Rachel Sennett. Unfortunately, I'm fucked up.

• 19:31Speaker 01

  They should let you have a drink in between the chair moving.

• 19:33Drew Afualo?

  I mean, if it were up to me.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  They're making you move the chair? They're making the host move the chairs?

• 19:40Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, girl. For me, me. Me, bottom me. That's only for me.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  Okay, well, guess what? When you win one day, which you will, you'll be sitting there and you'll get to tell everybody to move their chairs.

• 19:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, then I'm going to tell them to fold up my chair.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  And you could say, yep, and I'm leaving right after this win, so you can fold up my fucking chair. And then I'll be getting a drink with Rachel Sennett. And the cast of I Love LA.

• 20:01Drew Afualo?

  I said, Rachel Sennett, I'll meet you at the bar. When I, I just-

• 20:05Speaker 01

  Celebrate my big win.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  I do love this person, so if they're listening, I'm not saying anything bad, but maybe this is your chance to know I didn't love what you said, is that there was a costumer on a show that asked

• 20:20Speaker 01

  to wear Spanx for the flashback scenes to have a different look.

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• 21:04Speaker 01

  That's fine to say. Like, if you say that, and I literally was like,

• 21:08Drew Afualo?

  Is it?

• 21:08Speaker 01

  What do you mean? No, no, it's fine for me to say it now.

• 21:10Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  I'm saying, it's not fine to say that. Oh, that did sound like I said that. Like, that's fine to say. I was in 20 pairs of Spanx. That, it's fine to say on the podcast, because I've never confronted her.

• 21:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  And I'll say, oh, there, her. She/her. But I literally couldn't, I was like, what do you mean? Like, I just was like, what do you mean? No. Like, a different look.

• 21:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:32Speaker 01

  I'm like, why don't I just go get surgery? And get a boob job and have a different look for the flashback scenes?

• 21:37Drew Afualo?

  I could get a bob.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  A different, for a different look.

• 21:40Drew Afualo?

  That's fucking crazy.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  To say to my, and not even in an email.

• 21:43Drew Afualo?

  To your face, yeah, is fucking insane.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  But my feelings weren't hurt. I was more like, this is so unprofessional of this person I trusted.

• 21:51Drew Afualo?

  That's exactly how I felt.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  Like, I wasn't, I didn't feel different about myself.

• 21:53Drew Afualo?

  Same.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  I love the way I look.

• 21:54Drew Afualo?

  Same.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  And the character loved the way that she looked. And the flashback and current day.

• 21:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we actually have that in common, so.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  Like, and I didn't want to wear the Spanx when you asked me for the original character.

• 22:06Drew Afualo?

  So why would I want to wear?

• 22:08Speaker 01

  For the flashbacks. I'm like, oh my gosh, she's slightly more, uh, more flattened down during this. It's like, they don't even do that much.

• 22:16Drew Afualo?

  You can tell this is old, because...

• 22:18Speaker 01

  She definitely lost one pound. Yeah, she was definitely in a different place when she was one pound lighter.

• 22:23Drew Afualo?

  And also, can I tell you something too? That is so real, and it's like... In this industry especially, and I talked to Alonamar about this too. But I was like, you, like, I never feel any differently about my body too. I feel the same way. I, I literally think to myself, what an unprofessional thing to say. And also, I hope you're not telling other women that. Like, that's literally what I felt.

• 22:44Speaker 01

  That's why I hope she hears this.

• 22:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. And I, I think to myself, like, how unbelievable it would be that it, that kind of thing is existing now, especially with women.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  Imagine if I was insecure about it.

• 22:57Drew Afualo?

  Like, actually, yeah.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  I do want a different look in real life, too.

• 23:02Drew Afualo?

  Thank God you offered me.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  Thank you so much for saying that. I'm so, like, finally, like, yes, but we were doing a full hair story with the flashback. We did a full hair story. My nails were a different color in the flashback. No one is watching. My hair, my hair, we did a whole wig. It was, it was slightly thinner than, than the hair. I'm like, I'm wearing the thin wig. Like, I have to also, like, wear the Spanx. Like, we're already telling a hair story. We were telling a hair, a hair story, okay? Like,

• 23:33Drew Afualo?

  And she goes, and the super, no?

• 23:35Speaker 01

  We wanna see that?

• 23:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so we, you're cool, like, would previous you be cool with that?

• 23:40Speaker 01

  She's like, can we get a body double for the flashback with your face on her? I'm like, why do you need to even tell the story? We're doing a hair story.

• 23:47Drew Afualo?

  You're right.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  People know. It's also, like, the way the show's written, like, there's different characters with this person. We don't, why would we need that?

• 23:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I, I agree.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  It's worth saying that much?

• 23:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and that's actually also why I, that's how I react to it in real time, too. Like, I say the same thing. I'm like, why would we ever? Why would we do that? I don't like that.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  You wouldn't tell, like, someone skinny, could we put you in a fat suit for the flashback scenes?

• 24:09Drew Afualo?

  No, but I bet you they would laugh about it.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Imagine if we did that.

• 24:13Drew Afualo?

  You know what would be hilarious?

• 24:15Speaker 01

  That is actually so funny.

• 24:16Drew Afualo?

  They would, like, joke about it, like that.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, like,

• 24:18Drew Afualo?

  This is like, not, not similar to that, but a little bit different. We're like, Uh, one time I did a commercial and the original shirt they picked was like see-through, it was see-through, mind you, like high def fucking cameras, like a six camera shot. See-through, long sleeve, tight, turtleneck top. I'm like, interesting choice, okay. They picked that one, I'm sitting in it, and then they go up to my stylist and they're like, does she have like a camisole or something? Cause I had a bra on, obviously with see-through. But like, it's because my big naturals were like distracting. Like, they were literally sitting like-

• 24:56Speaker 01

  They picked a see-through shirt.

• 24:57Drew Afualo?

  I was like, why would you pick a see-through top? I have huge tits, like, that's like, and they were literally like, it's just like her. It's just like it's a little-

• 25:05Speaker 01

  They chose the shirt.

• 25:06Drew Afualo?

  No shit. I was like, eh, yeah, and I, and I have huge knockers, so we're gonna have to keep that top of mind.

• 25:13Speaker 01

  But you're like, you, like-

• 25:14Drew Afualo?

  Picked the outfit.

• 25:15Speaker 01

  You, they want you to feel like embarrassed or something. It's like, I'm not gonna be embarrassed. You picked the clothes. If they don't fit me, or like, there was a time that the Hacks Cast did a photo shoot. And I'm allowed to say, I won't say who, but there was a stylist that they picked for the photo shoot. She literally didn't plan for any of our sizes. Every single one of us has a completely different size.

• 25:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 25:37Speaker 01

  This stylist picked a shirt off of Hannah, threw it at me to put on. And like, I'm like, Carl's wearing like, like, sharing clothes with like Mark, like, we're all literally different. Like, heights, sizes, like, nothing was planned. And then she was like, super mean to me because like, the clothes didn't fit. And I had on like, a t-shirt dress that was more like-

• 26:00Speaker 01

  Like, kind of pulling it down, being like, oh, like, I'm wearing a t-shirt dress. But, like, she literally, we were laughing, cause it's like, me and Hannah aren't the same size. You're like, we're- And it's like, oh, it doesn't fit you, let's throw it on you. It's like, well, no, like, it's not gonna fit both of us.

• 26:16Drew Afualo?

  And it's so like disrespectful.

• 26:17Speaker 01

  Mean to me.

• 26:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's dismissive. Yeah, it's like so dismissive and rude and disrespectful. And it's also, they make it seem like my body is the issue. Because I, the very first stylist I ever, ever met with and worked with was terrible, um, awful, awful, awful. She was like, cause I, the first thing I asked was like, do you dress bigger girls? Like, do you dress above a twelve? Like, that's, I don't wanna hear shit about an eight, like, if it's a single digit, I don't give a fuck. Do you dress double-digit bitches? I wanna know. And so she was like, yeah, I, I have such an expansive portfolio, blah, blah, blah. And she's like, and I can get you all these really nice clothes and like bigger size, whatever. The first fitting I did, everything, H and M.

• 27:00Drew Afualo?

  H and M jeans, get the fuck out of my face. You think that shit can fit me? Are you nuts?

• 27:05Speaker 01

  I.

• 27:06Drew Afualo?

  That fake denim at H and M, you think that shit can go over my, my stomach?

• 27:10Speaker 01

  The pants in there.

• 27:11Drew Afualo?

  There's no, I could hold them and like.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Unless they're, unless they're pajamas.

• 27:16Drew Afualo?

  Unless they're stretchy. I don't want to hear it.

• 27:18Speaker 01

  So, but then it's like, then they make you feel like, I'm not gonna apologize because you don't have clothes up.

• 27:23Drew Afualo?

  No, I know. And I, I literally told her like, after I tried on like four, and then also like she dressed me so matronly. Like when I saw how there was so much Lane Bryant on that fucking rack, I said, bitch.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  That's the other thing that the stylist, like an amazing stylist will like not only know like where clothes are that can fit you. It's like the stylist needs to be like, you're hot, like, like you're gonna look hot in this.

• 27:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  Like feel the same way that we feel about ourselves. Like my stylist is like, she had a stage where she was trying to put me in a lot of see-through stuff.

• 27:58Drew Afualo?

  She wanted everyone to see this.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  Okay, okay, let's, let's steer away from the see, but it's because I, I, I also was like, I did like a see-through dress and then we kind of had a stage together. We're like, yes, undies showing like all the time. And then I'm like, okay, okay, let's do like less. And then she like is just such an amazing stylist.

• 28:16Drew Afualo?

  Same. I, that's how I feel about mine too.

• 28:18Speaker 01

  She kind of ran with me wanting to do like a see-through thing.

• 28:20Drew Afualo?

  No, in period.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  And then was like, yes, you look so good. Let's do this see-through and this see-through. And then it's like, we always like go along, um, together.

• 28:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:31Speaker 01

  And like she always just like thinks everything's hot and like is excited to try new things with me.

• 28:36Drew Afualo?

  And it's, and that's beautiful. And that's the whole point, right? The whole point of having a stylist is like someone that's gonna meet you where you're at and what you like. Cause like.

• 28:43Speaker 01

  Not wanting to cover you up and like something that fits you or barely.

• 28:47Drew Afualo?

  Is a huge one. Or they do this with big girls a lot where they like. Everything is like bust only and then it's all flowy and then tits up to the neck. And then shoulders covered.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:59Drew Afualo?

  So I'm giving mother of the bride. And that's fucked up. Why would you dress me like that? And I literally told my, my current stylist, I've been through a few. My current one is the best one I've ever had and she's amazing and I, and she asked me like, what are some things you, you're not like the biggest fan of? Like in terms of dressing and I go, I don't like when stylists just always try to put me in busty tops.

• 29:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:18Drew Afualo?

  And then cover my shoulders like I hate them.

• 29:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:21Drew Afualo?

  It's so unnecessary, like.

• 29:23Speaker 01

  It really is.

• 29:24Drew Afualo?

  And backwards, honestly, it feels so reductive, especially now, like given the time that we're in.

• 29:29Speaker 01

  But I actually always like bring my stylist now.

• 29:32Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  After that horrible experience.

• 29:34Drew Afualo?

  You know, that's, that, and that's smart. Like if, if they're willing to bring her, I'm always like, yeah, ask her to do it for me. This episode is brought to you by HBO Max. If you thought HBO's Euphoria was intense in high school, saddle up. Starring Zendaya, Sydney Sweeney and Jacob Elordi, season three of Euphoria picks up five years later and life looks very different. Now, these characters are on their own with the freedom to make choices that can build them or break them. No matter what they're chasing, money, fame, power, love, or redemption, no one can escape their fate.

• 30:15Drew Afualo?

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• 30:26Speaker 01

  I just was thinking about how like also it, people will find something wrong with what you're wearing, no matter what, because when I wore the orange outfit, people were mad it wasn't too, like wasn't fit enough.

• 30:39Drew Afualo?

  They needed it tighter?

• 30:40Speaker 01

  Well, we made it in like five days because they just wore those outfits.

• 30:44Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  And yeah, they were like, they'll, they'll be mad if my outfit's too tight and they'll be mad if it's too loose.

• 30:49Drew Afualo?

  Right. And that's just being a woman.

• 30:51Speaker 01

  Like literally, like I wore one, the dress I wore at the actor, the actor awards. Too tight, people are saying. I'm like, well, it's supposed to be tight.

• 30:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  The orange outfit, they think it was too loose.

• 31:02Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 31:03Speaker 01

  Why don't you come do the fitting?

• 31:06Drew Afualo?

  Actually, I think I need you to clock in.

• 31:07Speaker 01

  I didn't know that you were my seamstress.

• 31:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, also the Kylie Jenner, the orange outfit. Did you ever hear anything back from them?

• 31:16Speaker 01

  Well, so we had, first of all, Timothy's publicist came up to us and was like, "You guys gotta see this. He loves it." But all he said was incredible, but it was lowercase.

• 31:27Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  And so I'm like, I don't know if he loved it. And I hope that he did, and I hope we play a couple one day.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  Me and Timothy, a couple. And then we did have-

• 31:39Drew Afualo?

  And I can play your child.

• 31:41Speaker 01

  That's what I was gonna say.

• 31:42Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 31:43Speaker 01

  How, that would be so sweet.

• 31:44Drew Afualo?

  That would be so amazing.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  And it's like, you're going off to college.

• 31:48Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  But we are, we're not like in old age makeup.

• 31:50Drew Afualo?

  No, no, no, not at all. We could do like a Boss Baby thing. I was born an old man.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  We had to keep walking past their table, like in their outfits. But we, I couldn't look at them when we had the outfits on.

• 32:03Drew Afualo?

  Why?

• 32:04Speaker 01

  Because I was, like, I just, at the off chance that she'd be like, "Fuck you!" Like, I mean, it would have been so good.

• 32:12Drew Afualo?

  That would have been so, you should have been like, "Hey, twins."

• 32:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. "Hey, thanks for letting me borrow this." It's like fully loose on me, and then it's like, obviously not her dress.

• 32:22Drew Afualo?

  Imagine you said, like, you're like, "It's a little big."

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. "I gotta get it taken in," people are saying.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  Like, it's so, but they also had like bodyguards at their table, which I understand, I'm not judging because they are like the most famous people in the world.

• 32:37Drew Afualo?

  For real, literally.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  But me and Paul did see Timothy. We saw him at the Actor Awards. And I was like, I acted very like we knew each other. I said, "Hello." And he's like, "Hi." And he was nice, and then he was like, "Let's get a pic." And then we got scared that when we walked away that he thought we wanted to get a pic, and that's why we came up to him.

• 32:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh, no.

• 33:00Speaker 01

  And so I feel sick.

• 33:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. That was the lasting impression.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  Can you imagine, I go up to him, "Can we get a pic?" Like, that's so embarrassing.

• 33:07Drew Afualo?

  Also, like, him assuming that, too.

• 33:10Speaker 01

  But that's the thing, like, did he? Because he's like, there was a camera person there, right? So it all happened so fast, I'm like running by, I go, "Hey." And I'm like, I'm, okay, we're running by. I'm like, "Hey, remember?" I don't remember what I said. I don't remember what I said. I think I just was like-

• 33:24Drew Afualo?

  You remember.

• 33:25Speaker 01

  "Hey, you." Oh, oh, I know what I said. I go, I said, "Hey, you know we're obsessed with you."

• 33:34Drew Afualo?

  That's not true.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  This was before the ballet stuff.

• 33:39Drew Afualo?

  This is pre opera ballet.

• 33:40Speaker 01

  This is pre opera.

• 33:42Drew Afualo?

  Also, also you actively lying.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  I, I said, you know, you know, we're obsessed with you. And then, and I love him. Of course I do. And Paul's a little bit ahead of us and he stands up to say hi. He definitely knows we're the freaks that did his outfit. There is a camera person there. He's like, let's get a pic.

• 34:03Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 34:04Speaker 01

  It does seem like we asked.

• 34:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 34:08Speaker 01

  It does, because I said, we're obsessed with you. I'm like, I'm like, can we, can we bother you for a pic? We're obsessed with you.

• 34:15Drew Afualo?

  You know what?

• 34:16Speaker 01

  I'm like, one pic won't hurt.

• 34:17Drew Afualo?

  That would haunt me too. That would haunt me.

• 34:20Speaker 01

  That's crazy. Oh, I'm so scared now.

• 34:22Drew Afualo?

  If Timothy Chalamet thought that I was like really that big of a fan that I ran up to get a pic, yeah, that would haunt me too.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  And Paul posted the pic with like a carousel, but I said it'd be funny if he posted only the pic like five times. And then was like, I love, like, met so many people last night and it's just him and Timothy.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  I'm actually scared that Timothy, like, if my name ever does get brought up.

• 34:46Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 34:46Speaker 01

  Not like as the main, probably like, what about her for the, the crazy maid? You know what I mean? Like, what about her for the wacky fat neighbor? I don't know.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  That he'll be like, no. Like, I know that person. Like, no. Like, people do that.

• 35:04Drew Afualo?

  I told.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  People say no about people for like random reasons.

• 35:07Drew Afualo?

  Clear it by like A-list stars. Yeah, like they, they run it by them first. I, I made this joke to Alona. I was like, we should do Alonamar. I was like, we should do like a buddy cop thing, right? And then she goes, we would have to pay for that ourselves. And I was like, oh, nobody's coming to see that shit. They're like, yuck, when they see how we, how we're built.

• 35:28Speaker 01

  No.

• 35:28Drew Afualo?

  Two of us.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  Wait, I need you to do that.

• 35:32Drew Afualo?

  I think so.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  Like.

• 35:33Drew Afualo?

  I think so. But everybody is so small and I think that's why, dude, when I.

• 35:38Speaker 01

  It's gonna go out of style.

• 35:39Drew Afualo?

  Yes, being small.

• 35:41Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 35:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I think so.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  We love everybody that's every size, but.

• 35:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 35:45Speaker 01

  But there are trends.

• 35:46Drew Afualo?

  That is true.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  And now, right now, it's like trends to be really skinny or something.

• 35:50Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  Or whatever. But that was also like in the nineties.

• 35:53Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  So, big legs are coming back.

• 35:57Drew Afualo?

  Big legs are coming back.

• 35:59Speaker 01

  I do like, sometimes I do like when people are like, in a CEO of Ozempic, we knew that you would never give in.

• 36:08Drew Afualo?

  I get that too.

• 36:10Speaker 01

  I'm like, yeah.

• 36:11Drew Afualo?

  I literally got.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  Hey, you're right.

• 36:13Drew Afualo?

  I literally got a message like that I read to one of my friends on the show where someone said like, it was like a Jim Shark ad I did, so I was in like workout clothes, like and like a little top. And then she's like, you know, everyone, I'm so tired of chasing perfection. I need a real body. Okay, bitch.

• 36:32Speaker 01

  It's so, you know, they say that about.

• 36:34Drew Afualo?

  Fat and jeans.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  They say that about Addison Rae.

• 36:38Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna die.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  People say that about.

• 36:44Drew Afualo?

  Blow something up.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  She's extr- extremely fit and small. I'm looking at Addison, a beautiful queen pop star.

• 36:51Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 36:51Speaker 01

  And people are saying, people are saying, wow, it's so cool to have a, a pop star that has a normal body.

• 37:00Drew Afualo?

  I'm really sick to my stomach. I'm like genuinely sick to.

• 37:02Speaker 01

  I'm like, you're insane.

• 37:03Drew Afualo?

  I saw that about Zara Larson.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  That, and we're not commenting on people's bodies.

• 37:07Drew Afualo?

  No, no, they both are, are thin and beautiful and amazing.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  Yes, we're not commenting, okay? And I, I, I've got a big butt, I'm allowed to say it. I'm not commenting on people's size. I'm saying that when you say, yes, I'm so glad someone's normal around here, to someone who is probably like working out like, and doing dance class every hour.

• 37:27Drew Afualo?

  Well, and also like genuinely small, so like, what the fuck are you talking about? And it's, and it's okay if we say that because I'm not small.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  That's what I mean. I'm not commenting on someone like off the street, you're medium, you're fat, you're small. But I'm saying, if someone's objectively like, like I'm objectively bigger.

• 37:45Drew Afualo?

  Like me too.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  So if somebody looked at me and said in a comment like, yes, like a normal body or whatever, I get what they're saying. But if it's a fit pop star.

• 37:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like what the hell are you fucking talking about?

• 37:59Speaker 01

  That's what I mean. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm not commenting on her body, I'm just saying like.

• 38:02Drew Afualo?

  It's the idea behind like, oh, this is someone who's thicker.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:07Drew Afualo?

  What the, we need to get clear real fucking fast on what the definition of thick is.

• 38:11Speaker 01

  That's what I mean. I'm like, that is really crazy to me.

• 38:13Drew Afualo?

  Well, I, I even told one of my friends once I was on her show, I was like. When men call me fat and ugly, right, like, which is the only thing they'll ever say to me, I'm like, ugly, lie, outright lie, fat, depends on who you ask. Cause to some people, I'm big fat fatty. To some people, I'm like, not fat, not skinny, just not fat.

• 38:31Speaker 01

  To my family, they're going, you're losing weight.

• 38:36Drew Afualo?

  To my fam- my, my family's like, you're annoying. That's more important. That's more important to discuss than the body. But I'm also like a huge proponent of body neutrality. I've said this for years, where it's like, I don't wanna think. I love how I look, but I don't want to derive value or worth from my body. I don't wanna feel anything towards it, negative or positive. What I wanna feel is grateful. Like, that's how I wanna feel towards my body. Grateful at any size, whatever it does, as long as it keeps me alive and healthy. That's what I care about. And that's what I'm working towards. And it makes it fucking impossible. When you have people online calling Addison Rae a fatty, that's crazy.

• 39:10Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 39:11Drew Afualo?

  You're crazy and insane and you need to go outside. There is a, a divergence in the women that follow me because there, there are a lot of women who love me, which is a great thing. But there is a specific subset of women who like, they think that that kind of talking is like feminism and they think that's like support. Uh, when like, y- you need to decolonize the mind in order to like actually support and feminism, like for real. And so they think, when they see us, like, they think, look how brave she is. She doesn't give a fuck.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:43Drew Afualo?

  And really that's-

• 39:44Speaker 01

  Go on with your big ass!

• 39:48Speaker 01

  Literally, literally, or I've also, o- obviously like, no one's worse than men. Like, men are insane and horrible and I can't even, I don't even think about them. But there are really mean women comments.

• 40:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  About like, looks and stuff. Or like, if I do a crazy late night appearance, there's a lot of women that are like, attacking. And I'll go on her page and I'm like- The she her is like looking like she looks like she has a nice family and

• 40:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so you're like, what is, what is the matter with you? It really is, I think, women like that especially, because I get that too. Like really, really mean comments about my looks from women specifically, I've, I've gotten that many times too. Obviously, like you said, far and away, it's more always men the most. But the one, when it's women, I've always said, like, that's the part that really upsets me. Because I think to myself, like, I'm fighting for you bitch, like, what the fuck, like, oh, you're gonna turn on me? And I think now too, especially, it's because you and I are for real about confidence. Like, there, there are a lot of women who are much smaller than us and look much different than we do. That are violently insecure, no matter how far they go, because this business is just that awful. You and I are for real about this shit, like, for real confident.

• 41:00Drew Afualo?

  And I think they can tell, um, especially when we're being ourselves and the way you are yourself. Because I have to give you your flowers for a second, like, I

• 41:08Speaker 01

  And I'll be taking them and giving them right back to you.

• 41:11Drew Afualo?

  I really do think that you are one of the most talented actors today. I really genuinely believe that, because you are not afraid, like, you are so brave, like, in the way that you act.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  Really hitting me hard right now, and I actually almost fell out of my chair. I'm serious, that means a lot coming from you.

• 41:27Drew Afualo?

  It's very like, I sing your praises everywhere I go. But I have said this to many people, I'm like, you are changing the game, like, the way that, even the way you walk carpets. You are changing the game, like, you're, you're putting fun back into the worst part of the job, which is shit like that, like. I talked to someone recently who's an actress, and she was like, it sucks because, like, acting is my passion and my first love, and that's ten percent of the job. And the other ninety is like, what I describe as like running from air. So you're just constantly doing press tours, you're, you're going and getting dressed up and being touted around and answering the same questions over and over again. But you go to carpets and you have like, purpose and drive and you're being funny and silly and like,

• 42:09Drew Afualo?

  you're injecting joy, like, back into these really stiff, archaic mediums. And I really want to tell you that, because what you do on carpets, I can see, it's like genuinely, you are an actress, like, that is what you are. And what you do on those carpets is so fun, and it's so like, magnetic and it's incredible. And I have to tell you that, because I really think you're making it easier for people to walk these carpets. Like, you're making it easier for people to like, digest the content, to like, Feel like acting is fun and Hollywood is fun and like people don't care so much about the like. I don't know buttoned up nature of it, I guess. You're making it more accessible and it's a beautiful thing.

• 42:46Speaker 01

  I I actually am getting emotional because I that is literally what you're doing. I'm serious because you are when you've interviewed me that you are like my safe place and I felt like not alone when I was with you.

• 42:58Drew Afualo?

  I'm so glad.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  And I feel like there those events like I I'm I'm truly like can be so grateful to be there with our like. I my dream was to be an actor, so and I still feel kind of like funny saying that because I like to to saying like, oh, I'm an actor. But I feel like there are, I'm not saying anything about a specific. Award show, but they're at these Hollywood events, they do feel like there is an actual evil. Because there's a lot of evil in our industry, but there's also a lot of angels like you. And so I feel as a gay god girl that like I can bring like some light and like joy. To what we have to go to or like for award shows, it is fun to go to when it feels like.

• 43:43Speaker 01

  I I could feel lucky and also make fun of like being an actor.

• 43:48Drew Afualo?

  Like the absurdity of it, because it is a very absurd job, like just generally.

• 43:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it could feel also like you are like at the Capitol in the Hunger Games and that you like I. It's like is the answer not to go to anything that you're invited to like celebrating like your show? Or is it like to go and try to like be positive and be silly and like make people happy? And also use your platform to to say what's important, what's going on. So I try to like do all of that there and I feel like that's what you do and so you make me so happy.

• 44:24Drew Afualo?

  You're so sweet.

• 44:25Speaker 01

  There are evil people around us.

• 44:26Drew Afualo?

  No, that is true and that's that's why like even like the actor awards is a perfect example, like you're you and Paul Downs when you guys did your. Presentation and you were joking about Hamlet and everything like I literally first of all, like I told you, laughed my ass off, obviously. But also like you are brave, like you are brave and courageous and it takes a lot of courage to not just like. Be be yourself in a way that's like authentic to you, like you your humor is so authentic to who you are. And so that's what you depict when you're doing like bits like that, but you're also like making it. Just like, I don't know, tolerable, like that those energies can be so, they can be so intolerable and boring. Right? And stuffy and also very like when I say archaic, I mean to like the frameworks are so like stacked against

• 45:11Drew Afualo?

  so many different marginalized people. And you come in and you just upset the entire thing and turn it on its head. And I think it's genius. I think you're a genius and I think you're amazing. And then people need to give you way more credit because I think sometimes people think the silliness of the bits that you do sometimes at carpets is like, oh, this girl just like does whatever. But you're very specific about how you do it and the way you do it and I can tell because I'm smart.

• 45:37Speaker 01

  You get me and I.

• 45:39Drew Afualo?

  And yeah, and I do, it's true. Your humor is smart. It's very, very high level. It's not.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  I saw someone already comment when I was saying like, I said, like, for people that don't get my stuff, I feel like you do have to be really smart to be able to joke like this. And I wasn't meaning it in a mean way because like I didn't feel very smart in school at all. So like I'm allowed to say that I feel smart now. And people were like, oh, gosh, like, oh, she like this pretentious person saying that we just don't get it and she's so smart. And I'm like, no, I'm just saying I'm smart in a, in a certain way because you guys are smart in, in different ways. So like a mathematician, if they don't get me, then they're smart in other ways.

• 46:18Drew Afualo?

  Well, and you're also talking about a very specific kind of person who's critiquing the way that you act and the way that you perform your bits, like.

• 46:26Speaker 01

  Right. I'm not just saying like, if you don't get it, I'm saying if you're being mean to me, I'm saying then, then, then you don't get it, but I, I'm smarter than you think.

• 46:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's true. And that's why I'm giving you all the credit in the world for that, for especially for your bits, dude, like I, I'm not kidding. Every time I'm like, this bitch is a genius, like every time.

• 46:45Speaker 01

  But you're so smart and so naturally funny that you, like, we get each other's sense of humor.

• 46:50Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 46:51Speaker 01

  And I don't, I really appreciate you saying that. I don't feel like, um, like brave or anything, but I feel like it. Try, I'm trying to like take some of the power away of like celebrity because

• 47:03Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 47:03Speaker 01

  If you can make fun of it and you're kind of like an actor or whatever, then it's like, take some of the power, like doing a joke about like this huge movie that won like all of the awards. That was the like, the most beautiful movie I've ever seen. It like ta- makes it like feel like. They're just, we're all people.

• 47:22Drew Afualo?

  When you continue to enforce these weird like barriers of entry. It closes doors for other people and that's and that's genuinely why I think you're a genius. And also why I hate that rhetoric of like influencer shouldn't be here because. For someone like myself, which I've said before, like and a lot of other people. The internet was my way in, like that I never would have been looked at because I don't look like Addison Rae so and I don't talk like her and I don't sound like her so. The the constraints with which people are held to like these standards that we're fighting against like this prejudice. And we were just talking about fat phobia for so long, like and how it's still being weaponized against us even now as people with platforms. And you as a celebrity and a successful actor like it's still happening even now.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  That happened because of uh being online.

• 48:07Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  Like they saw me online making videos like.

• 48:10Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  And I was performing for like ten years doing stand up.

• 48:13Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly, which nobody knows, like it, nobody even begins to think about with you. Like that's why I'm saying like it's the same thing with me too in the sense of how sometimes people digest my content like they're very like. Oh, I just like when she's mean to men. And it's like it's my jokes and the jokes I tell are a lot more layered than just like. This is my favorite thing that when women are like, oh, this is how you be mean to men. They'll be like, I bet it's small, isn't it? Like that's like the meanest thing they can think to say. And I'm like, obviously, my jokes are a lot more layered than that and there's a lot more like.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, because then like if your jokes were like just like it's small, like anybody could do that.

• 48:51Drew Afualo?

  That's like my point, right.

• 48:54Speaker 01

  So smart and so you I feel like funny people are just really, really smart.

• 48:59Drew Afualo?

  I agree and that's why I've I've known that about you. I've known you were smart because you are so funny. My sister and I. Your humor is so aligned with me and my sister. It's not even funny like. I talked to my sister and I said this for months. This was like a bit when I interviewed you at Pandora.

• 49:16Speaker 01

  Pandora, I'm sorry, I love Pandora.

• 49:17Drew Afualo?

  I love Pandora too.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  I really do.

• 49:21Drew Afualo?

  I actually am wearing, they actually sent me this charm bracelet.

• 49:26Drew Afualo?

  And like when I was talking to you there, you were like, I used to be a gold girl, but and then you look at the camera and you go get this one. Now I'm silver. I laughed about that the whole way home. We said, now I'm sober for fucking months after that. I still do it now. And that's what we laughed. And I was like, after you said it, I was like, I have to tell my sister that joke. She's gonna laugh.

• 49:45Speaker 01

  It's interesting, cause like, that is true about me. You know what I mean? But like, as I was saying it, I'm like, I am still making fun of like, the actor who's like, saying something really like, like, really like, interesting about themselves, but I'm also like, that also is true.

• 49:59Drew Afualo?

  Also, when you said-

• 50:00Speaker 01

  That's how I thought of it.

• 50:01Drew Afualo?

  When you wore that 32 inch wig and you were saying, you were like, uh, I'm on my big period. Careful.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  People were really like, how can you see that and not know I'm doing a joke? Like, people were like, who the hell's this? I'm like, you think that's my real hair? I'm wearing my own shirt. Like, I'm on my shirt, like-

• 50:24Drew Afualo?

  Literally, it's like-

• 50:25Speaker 01

  That's the fun I always want. There are people that are like, what's going on? And then the people that get it feel like they're in on the joke. And like, I'm the only one being made fun of by myself.

• 50:35Drew Afualo?

  I agree. It's a, it's a very, it reminds me a lot of, uh, Tim Robinson. Because his humor too is, is very like, specific. Like, it's a very specific kind of humor. And that's how I feel about yours too. It's, it's so layered and it's so funny, bitch. You have me giggling, bitch. That's literally, that's why I said, at the actorwards, you and Zach Fox were my favorite people. And I literally kept saying when I asked you the question, like, what would you change your actor name to? And you said, Miss Queen.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  No, I don't remember that, but it does sound like something I said. Miss Queen is so crazy. Imagine that. Well, the funny thing, and this isn't against any male comedians, because I love Nathan Fielder. I love Tim Robinson, like, I am their biggest fan. But people do let, like, men be more like-

• 51:26Drew Afualo?

  Crazy and silly.

• 51:27Speaker 01

  Awkward, crazy humor.

• 51:28Drew Afualo?

  No, you're right. You're so right.

• 51:30Speaker 01

  And they're like, he's a genius. Like, he went and he's a pilot now. I'm like, if I went and I became a pilot, like, people would have me arrested. Like, and I, I just, people don't let women

• 51:42Drew Afualo?

  Women be funny.

• 51:43Speaker 01

  Be crazy, weird, funny.

• 51:45Drew Afualo?

  Or like silly.

• 51:46Speaker 01

  It's like if I'm doing that on late night, it's like, she's crazy, lock her up, who the hell is this? But then if a male comedian did that, that was like, maybe like, at the same amount of known.

• 51:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  I, everybody would get it.

• 51:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and everyone would be like, this guy's hilarious.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  Yes, he's a genius, he's so hot.

• 52:02Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 52:04Speaker 01

  He's so sexy, oh, I want the awkward guy. Because I think also, people assume men are really smart.

• 52:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  So it's like, if they're doing something awkward, it's obviously on purpose, it's obviously planned, like, it's so Andy Kaufman, it's

• 52:16Drew Afualo?

  You're so right, because I made a joke, and I talk about this with Caleb often offline, but like, I made a joke with Brittany when she came on my show, it was like Glenda, um, and she asked me my opinion on ghouls, and I said, like, just like, generally ghouls? And she said, yeah, and then I said, well, if they came here legally, I wouldn't care. Like, and then we, that was the joke, and we like laughed. And we were like riffing about that, like, pretending they're like, you know, like, illegal.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 52:42Drew Afualo?

  Like illegally entering the US, whatever. And so we were joking, and the amount of comments I got, that were like, did you get this joke from Caleb?

• 52:50Speaker 01

  Oh, saying that you, does he have a ghoul joke?

• 52:54Drew Afualo?

  If he does, I haven't heard it.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  Does he have a ghoul joke?

• 52:57Drew Afualo?

  Probably, I might have

• 52:58Speaker 01

  Oh, they just were like, sounds like something Caleb would say.

• 53:00Drew Afualo?

  No, they, they literally thought I took that joke from Caleb. I don't know if it was specifically about ghouls, I don't know if they just mean like, doing a parallel.

• 53:07Speaker 01

  Oh, oh, like a, like a, oh, only if they're illegal.

• 53:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like the wittiness of it.

• 53:11Speaker 01

  But also they know that you're friends.

• 53:13Drew Afualo?

  Right, and I think that's why they think I just like, take his funny, like, like in Snow White.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  People just, yeah.

• 53:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they just constantly think that when I'm funny, like, generally, and it's not about men, then they're like, oh, well then.

• 53:25Speaker 01

  But all three of you are the funniest people. Like, so, and you're also different, and you also like, are so funny together. Well, I would never assume that you or Caleb took from each other, like

• 53:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and that would be insane, too.

• 53:36Speaker 01

  People will like worship men, though.

• 53:37Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly, that's my point, and I, and I made a video about it too, because I was like, if you guys haven't found out I'm funny by now, like, then fucking keep it to yourself, I don't want to hear it. I don't, I really don't. Um, crediting my jokes that I say off the dome to someone who's not even here is fucking insane.

• 53:52Speaker 01

  It'd also be so much more work to copy a really close friend who you're on the same podcast all the time together, like each other's podcast.

• 54:00Drew Afualo?

  That'd be really hard.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Copying his joke into a riff with another friend that he knows.

• 54:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's why I'm saying like, it's a very dumb ass bitch thing to ask me because they just can't believe that I can come up with a joke that quickly and that funny. Um.

• 54:17Speaker 01

  Also, if he says something similar, maybe you guys joke similar, like, cause you're friends and maybe he took it from you. You know what I mean?

• 54:24Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's never possible.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  I don't think you guys would ever take anything from each other.

• 54:27Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  Like, but it's like in the very rare case that you accident, like.

• 54:33Drew Afualo?

  It's just so stupid and it's accrediting men again, like giving them way more credit, like you were saying.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:38Drew Afualo?

  You're right, though. Like, if, if men, if there was a male comedian, and honestly, there probably will be one that tries to rip off you, what you do on carpets, there probably will be one.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  I've seen men that are like, wait till you hear what I, I've thought of. And it's, and it's like, oh, I thought of that a couple of months ago, you know, like, I don't, I can't even think of an example, but I'm like, I know, like, there are.

• 54:58Drew Afualo?

  They're saying that about you?

• 55:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:01Drew Afualo?

  Like, what you do, they're like.

• 55:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, like.

• 55:03Drew Afualo?

  Well, if I had the time, I would have also done this. Yeah, if given the opportunity, I also had this idea.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  I'm sure there'll be a guy on the red carpet trying to be doing a big character actor.

• 55:14Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, I know. I heard the other.

• 55:15Speaker 01

  Fake cigarettes or, I don't know.

• 55:16Drew Afualo?

  Uh, oh, I guarantee someone's gonna try to rip off your bit and then copy you. And then if that does happen, they're gonna be like, oh, man, he just doesn't care. Look at this guy. He just doesn't care.

• 55:29Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, totally.

• 55:31Drew Afualo?

  And you're, and you're like, oh, okay, I'm, well, I'm glad you guys receive it when he does it. But when you do it, you're, you're just crazy and need to be carted off to the asylum.

• 55:40Speaker 01

  But I will say that the, that the Kylie, Timmy outfits were Paul's idea. But I did tell us that we should do it soon.

• 55:48Drew Afualo?

  That's true, and that was very smart.

• 55:50Speaker 01

  But he is not just like, he's not a regular guy.

• 55:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 55:53Speaker 01

  I, I like to say he's like, there's certain men that are goddesses, like your man, you know what I mean? That I'm like, he would never take credit. He always gives me credit and I always give him credit.

• 56:04Drew Afualo?

  That's really sweet though.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  As a comedy partner, is why I'm bringing him up. And he's not like typical like guy, like he wouldn't just steal, like, like be like, take credit for something that other men would or like.

• 56:14Drew Afualo?

  Well, before.

• 56:15Speaker 01

  True collaborator.

• 56:15Drew Afualo?

  Well, I do want to ask you more about Hacks and I'm working with Paul. I would love to know more about it.

• 56:20Speaker 01

  My angel.

• 56:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, just like how, how it's been, how it's going, like, how do you feel like? Do you and, uh, did you guys have like instant chemistry or did you guys build to it? How'd it go?

• 56:29Speaker 01

  Well, I loved him on Broad City.

• 56:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  And what happened was, we met at a stand-up show and I don't think that, we didn't have the audition yet for Hacks. I didn't know about it. But he does say that when he saw me at the show, then he was like, okay, this makes sense for Kayla.

• 56:44Drew Afualo?

  Oh, love.

• 56:45Speaker 01

  But then I still had to audition.

• 56:47Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 56:47Speaker 01

  Um, and so I really wanted it, but Pat Regan showed me a, um, a screenshot where it did say my name in the script, like, think Meg Stalter.

• 56:56Drew Afualo?

  Ooh.

• 56:56Speaker 01

  And I never, I was never on TV before.

• 56:58Drew Afualo?

  That's so cool though.

• 57:00Speaker 01

  So it was nice to have my name in a script.

• 57:01Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, that's incredible.

• 57:02Speaker 01

  They could have gave it to someone else. People are auditioning that I know.

• 57:05Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 57:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:07Drew Afualo?

  They're using you as reference?

• 57:08Speaker 01

  Yes, doing me.

• 57:10Drew Afualo?

  Do you have any tips for me for auditioning? I'm venturing into acting.

• 57:14Speaker 01

  And, well, I was gonna say that, ah, my dream is to do something with you for real.

• 57:18Drew Afualo?

  I would love, Meg, I'll die.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  I'm serious.

• 57:20Drew Afualo?

  I'll die.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  You are so, you are literally a star and I, I don't care if there's a comment, oh, she's complimenting her a lot. I don't care. If you were here, you'd be complimenting her too. Like, truly.

• 57:31Drew Afualo?

  That's how I feel about you.

• 57:31Speaker 01

  My thing is like, I think that writing for myself, even if I hadn't actually, like, right now, I technically have not gotten anything like on screen that I've written, right? Like, I think like, writing for myself, even if it's like. Like hasn't been sold yet.

• 57:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  I think helps me.

• 57:52Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 57:52Speaker 01

  Um, because like, I just, here's the thing is I can't imagine how hard it would be to be an actor that wasn't a comedian.

• 57:59Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 57:59Speaker 01

  But you're a comedian too, you know what I mean? Like, right? So it's like.

• 58:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 58:03Speaker 01

  If I was an actor and I auditioned and I was never able to tell myself yes.

• 58:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 58:08Speaker 01

  It would be really hard. But you already tell yourself yes with all of the things you've created.

• 58:16Speaker 01

  Acting career.

• 58:17Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  I don't know how many parts people will write for me. I'm, I'm writing like, I'm, I've been writing six things every day.

• 58:27Drew Afualo?

  Casting you, yeah, oh yeah, me too.

• 58:29Speaker 01

  I, I, you know what I mean? But I, I guess I, uh, we do improvise some on hacks, but I mean, the script so is truly amazing.

• 58:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 58:36Speaker 01

  So I feel like I've learned a lot from them, but like technically, who knows if anybody ever would offer me another role again. I have to write my own stuff.

• 58:44Drew Afualo?

  No, you're right. And that, it's crazy you say that too, because that's what some of my other actor friends have said is like, sometimes, especially when you're marginalized in any capacity, you sometimes you gotta do it yourself, like, and then prove it. And then that's where you go in from there. And I was like, you know what? You're probably right because I've done a lot of like reads for small things. Um, haven't booked one, didn't even book Moana, if you can believe it. There's only about two of us and they cast two of them, so it's a bummer.

• 59:11Speaker 01

  Well, that, the other thing is like, I feel like you know so many people. People are going to write for you. Because you are so charismatic.

• 59:21Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 59:22Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? So I think it's like, I'm gonna write for myself and I'm going to like, just like put out my own stuff online. Because that's another thing that I'll say that I do.

• 59:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  I, I won't say the show, but I did hear there was a part on a show that I wanted.

• 59:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:37Speaker 01

  And so I started posting videos as, and I couldn't get an audition for the show.

• 59:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:41Speaker 01

  Cause it was like really small.

• 59:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:43Speaker 01

  So I heard basically that there was a publicist character. So every day I was. Publicist. I didn't get the audition, but then like, maybe that helped someone else see me.

• 59:53Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah, you're actually, you're a genius. You're a marketing genius.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  I'm not tied to any person's thing, but I am like going to like, put myself out because I don't know what people are saying in meetings about me. I'm just gonna post this because that's basically an audition. Like if they could maybe change their mind, like I'll just be trying to do like a really funny like publicist character. If I'm not right, that's okay, but at least like I put an audition on my own page.

• 1:00:20Drew Afualo?

  Hell yeah. Oh, it's like Jojo Siwa. Did you ever see when she put that self tape?

• 1:00:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's kind of, I kind of Jojo Siwadded. But I'm kind of like, it also could, it could also shoot me in the foot. What if someone sees it and they're like, too, too funny? I need more serious. But you know, at least I, I just.

• 1:00:37Drew Afualo?

  You know what's funny? I, when I met with my, I met, I have an acting coach and when I met with him once, I was like, do you think my height insulates? Do you think I should start lying? And then he was like, well, I'll tell you. And I was like, well, I'm six feet tall and I feel like that's why I'm not getting the roles. Me not even considering talent. I'm like, it's probably my height. So how do you feel? I told him.

• 1:00:58Speaker 01

  I'm five foot two.

• 1:00:59Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I literally told him, what if I said five seven? And he's like, that's like way too short. Like you, you should get a little closer. And I was like, okay.

• 1:01:06Speaker 01

  I love your height. I'd be, if I was a casting person, I'd be casting in everything, by the way.

• 1:01:10Drew Afualo?

  Thank you. They're gonna make me The Rock's body double before they make me a lead.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  But that's the thing is casting people literally, like it might not even be about talent or look, they can just be like, this person seems like what I had in my head for this.

• 1:01:28Drew Afualo?

  I'm not even kidding. That's what all my friends have told, Sabrina Brier, she told me.

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  That's why you have to write your own.

• 1:01:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, she said she worked on a show and she said, I worked with a showrunner that like, uh, we would pull up tapes and he, before they even started, he'd be like, no. Because that's just not who he was picturing, which honestly makes me feel better. I feel like it gives me way more freedom. Because then I'm like, well, then it's really just chance. It's really just like, if you're feeling it, I can do it. Because sometimes I watch movies and I'm like. I could fucking do that. I watched Crime 101 and I saw Chris Hemsworth and I thought, I could do that.

• 1:02:01Speaker 01

  I already know that you're an amazing actress because you are literally mesmerizing.

• 1:02:06Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  You think that somebody who, like, look at the platform you built.

• 1:02:10Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 1:02:10Speaker 01

  There's a reason people want to watch you and hear what you have to say. And people will write for you. And that's the other thing is, I know that there'll be other rules for me because I know.

• 1:02:18Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 1:02:18Speaker 01

  I know that we know who we are, so people know in the cast who we are and what we can do.

• 1:02:24Drew Afualo?

  Totally.

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  Even before auditioning, so there will be, but I will say it's very empowering to tell yourself yes about stuff and write for yourself.

• 1:02:30Drew Afualo?

  No, you're, you're so right.

• 1:02:31Speaker 01

  Write for you.

• 1:02:32Drew Afualo?

  And I am writing fiction books right now and.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  So cool.

• 1:02:35Drew Afualo?

  Thank you. I would love to send you the sample after, but I sold them. I sold two of them and I'm like talking about film rights and TV show rights, whatever.

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:44Drew Afualo?

  Before I've even written them, but like I've been telling my team, like this is my Lin-Manuel Miranda plan.

• 1:02:48Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:02:49Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna write it and then I'm gonna sell it to someone and then I say caveat.

• 1:02:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:54Drew Afualo?

  I'm the lead. I'm the lead and no, I can't sing. So do with that what you will.

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  That's the other thing. Guess what? I'm, I'm, I'll still sing something even if I can't sing.

• 1:03:04Speaker 01

  And that's the thing.

• 1:03:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'm in a real who want me phase with acting. Who want me?

• 1:03:09Speaker 01

  Well, literally, people are gonna be begging and you're gonna have your, you're going to have your book be a movie and be in it as a star and everyone's gonna be throwing stuff at you. I'm serious.

• 1:03:19Drew Afualo?

  In a bad way or in a good way?

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  No, throwing things. Please be this role. Please be this role. Oh, you found out that like throwing roses? No, throwing roses.

• 1:03:26Drew Afualo?

  Oh.

• 1:03:26Speaker 01

  And throwing scripts at you.

• 1:03:28Drew Afualo?

  At opera.

• 1:03:28Speaker 01

  I'm ser- and yes, of course, in the ballet.

• 1:03:32Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  What do you think about what he said? Do you think he got too comfortable?

• 1:03:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I, I honestly, I, I feel like I understood the spirit of what he was trying to say. I just felt like he did it in a bad way. And also unnecessarily dragging other art forms into a conversation about acting when acting is being eaten alive by streaming is. All of it just feels like nonstarter, like, but also largely, by and large. Um, I don't think he needs anyone to defend him. Cause he's still gonna be Timothy Chalamet at the end of the day. I really don't think anyone needs to defend him. I think he's okay. I think this is the first time, literally in the history of time ever, that people have been mad at him.

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  Is there a possibility he was doing a bit? No. Cause some of the Marty Supreme stuff, like, he was kinda kidding, right?

• 1:04:17Drew Afualo?

  If I were him, that's what I would have said.

• 1:04:20Speaker 01

  I know, I would be out there, I would be literally online going, "I was kidding."

• 1:04:23Drew Afualo?

  I would have hit up-

• 1:04:24Speaker 01

  That was a bit. I love ballet.

• 1:04:25Drew Afualo?

  I would have hit up a different British rapper and I would have gotten to work.

• 1:04:28Speaker 01

  Yes, for real.

• 1:04:29Drew Afualo?

  And then I would have forgot.

• 1:04:30Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh, he literally needs to do that.

• 1:04:32Drew Afualo?

  I would have gone, met up with Druski, and I would have made it disappear. That's what I would have done.

• 1:04:36Speaker 01

  I heard his family was ballerinas.

• 1:04:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, his sister and his mom, I think.

• 1:04:39Speaker 01

  So, aren't they mad at him?

• 1:04:40Drew Afualo?

  Well, I think that's why his sister went to the Oscars.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  To show, "Hey, this ballerina's not mad." But, but all, like-

• 1:04:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  I don't think-

• 1:04:48Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, yeah.

• 1:04:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. It's like when there's cheating rumors, so then, like, they, they go out to dinner, him and his wife, and they're holding hands.

• 1:04:55Speaker 01

  They're fingering each other at the dinner table.

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  "We love each other."

• 1:04:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, "We love each other. Look, two in the pink, one in the stink."

• 1:05:02Speaker 01

  She should've dressed up in her balla- balla- balla-

• 1:05:04Drew Afualo?

  Ballerina.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  Ballerina costume. Her costume.

• 1:05:07Drew Afualo?

  I was having a stroke.

• 1:05:09Speaker 01

  Balla- ballerina, in her ballerina boat. Ballerina bow?

• 1:05:14Drew Afualo?

  Well-

• 1:05:15Speaker 01

  She's an actress, too.

• 1:05:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh, period. Honestly-

• 1:05:18Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:05:19Drew Afualo?

  Good for them.

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  Wait, right?

• 1:05:20Drew Afualo?

  I'm believing you.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  Isn't she in-

• 1:05:22Drew Afualo?

  Are you starting rumors?

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  She's in Sex Lives.

• 1:05:24Drew Afualo?

  Oh, tea, okay. Whole family's actors, then. Period. Okay, we're gonna pivot to fun facts.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:05:30Drew Afualo?

  Are you ready?

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:05:31Drew Afualo?

  Okay, fun facts. This first one says, "You used to do Shakespeare improv in Ohio but got in trouble because you kept poisoning your teammates."

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I, I'd say that the guy that ran the theater said, "You need to keep the jokes off the stage or you can't be in the show anymore." And I, I was going, "Jokes? I mean, that's what happens in Shakespeare plays." I, I didn't really have the accent down, so-

• 1:05:56Drew Afualo?

  So you don't wanna be historically accurate?

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm like, I poisoned them because that's what Shakespeare would have done. He's really scary. He's really scary.

• 1:06:07Drew Afualo?

  It feels like Michael Scott when he's in improv and he keeps bringing a gun.

• 1:06:10Speaker 01

  That's the thing, like, I definitely wasn't good, but I definitely thought I was really good. And I was like, I would literally be like, everyone's gonna love me today, like, I can't wait to be so funny. He was so scary, but he also, like, he put, there's these twins, really nice twin girls in our class.

• 1:06:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  He excelled them to being in a show really, really fast because I think he had a crush on them. And that made me feel scared. And they're scared of him now, yeah.

• 1:06:36Drew Afualo?

  I would be scared too.

• 1:06:37Speaker 01

  And I love those girls and he's creepy.

• 1:06:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and he's creepy and weird and clearly has no sense of humor or historical knowledge about Shakespeare.

• 1:06:44Speaker 01

  That is what happens in Shakespeare plays. Ever read Romeo and Juliet? I mean, who cares? Like, and by the way, it's improv, they can come back to life if they wanted.

• 1:06:57Speaker 01

  Like, that's insane to me to be mad at that.

• 1:07:01Drew Afualo?

  And he said, hey, can I talk to you to the side for a sec?

• 1:07:04Speaker 01

  He was sending me really scary Facebook messages about it. When I was doing short form and long form improv at the same time.

• 1:07:11Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:07:12Speaker 01

  He said that you can't be learning both at the same time. That's like doing ballet and like hip hop dance.

• 1:07:18Drew Afualo?

  What?

• 1:07:18Speaker 01

  And I was like, okay.

• 1:07:20Drew Afualo?

  And you're like, I think that those are two very different things and, and you're not the boss of me.

• 1:07:25Speaker 01

  He just didn't want me to take the improv class from this amazing woman that he was like, was his nemesis.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  So it's like, I'm like, you guys can work out whatever, but like, I'm doing both classes.

• 1:07:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they, they, they need to settle it on the remix, those two.

• 1:07:39Speaker 01

  You know what, like, short form improv, like, those games?

• 1:07:42Drew Afualo?

  Like Zip Zap Zap?

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  It'll be like, it'll be like, it'll be like, the alphabet game. Oh, no, no, wait. Okay, there, it's like, you know those TikToks that are going viral where they're like, sex with me is like, like, those kinds of games?

• 1:07:55Drew Afualo?

  Okay, I see what you're saying, yes.

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  You know those horrible, like, sex with me is like, is like drinking coffee. It's hot until it's not, you know?

• 1:08:03Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  Have you seen those videos?

• 1:08:05Drew Afualo?

  I think so.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  Short forms like that and long forms, like, you're basically pretending to be in a play for like, an hour, you're making up everything. I'm like, whatever, we're losers, like, shut up.

• 1:08:16Drew Afualo?

  Okay, we're doing improv.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  We're literally theater kids, like, yes, I owe my whole career, career to it, but I mean, it's, it's like embarrassing, like, don't tell me I can't do improv every day.

• 1:08:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and you know what's funny is I had to explain, I made a Zip Zap Zap joke to my man. Who, I was an athlete.

• 1:08:33Speaker 01

  That's like a war- like a warm up.

• 1:08:35Drew Afualo?

  Yes, yeah, so I was explaining, I made a joke to him about zip zap zap and then he was like, you've made that joke around me multiple times, what is that? And I was like, it's like a warm up thing for improv and then he goes, okay, and I go, you know, like, and I was like literally saying it like he knew and he goes, I don't know what any of those words mean, I thought you were just saying stuff. Like he literally thought I made that up.

• 1:08:56Speaker 01

  It was a catchphrase of yours.

• 1:08:58Drew Afualo?

  Got a blast, zip zap zap.

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  Zip zap zap. Wait, that, me playing like, literally in my twenties, zip zap zap and being like, this is amazing, like I'm getting on SNL, like, this is, feels amazing.

• 1:09:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's like euphoric.

• 1:09:13Speaker 01

  It's euphoric.

• 1:09:14Drew Afualo?

  It really is like, you hit a flow state when you're playing zip zap zap.

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  You really feel like you're that girl when you're playing zip zap zap.

• 1:09:19Drew Afualo?

  And I, I do want to say too, my brother, my younger brother, he's gonna be twenty two years old. And we talk about Donnie on this show, he is, he is a gem, I think you would enjoy him honestly, if you met him. And he is currently starring in High School Musical, the play. And he got cast as Troy Bolton and also.

• 1:09:39Speaker 01

  Oh my god, a huge role.

• 1:09:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, he got a lead.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  Wait, you said also what?

• 1:09:42Drew Afualo?

  Zeke, he also, he's playing two roles.

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  In the same production? He has to change costume? In the same night or are they switched off?

• 1:09:49Drew Afualo?

  Same night, same night. So yeah, he's playing multiple roles. Amanda's dying because she hasn't heard this story.

• 1:09:54Speaker 01

  That's my dream in high school to get, I couldn't even get one role, he's so lucky.

• 1:09:59Drew Afualo?

  And, and I will say this, it's a local theater production, I, we're so excited to watch him. He's so excited about it, he's having a blast, but he literally texts my man. My brother is twenty two years old, twenty one years old, my man is thirty one. He texts my, my man and he goes, hey Billy, he's like, just out of curiosity, would you be interested in auditioning for the play? They need, they need more boys.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh, he's so sweet.

• 1:10:26Drew Afualo?

  My man goes. You know what? I'm gonna let you take that, but thank you. I appreciate the offer. And he was like, just thought I'd ask. He never know.

• 1:10:34Speaker 01

  I love him. I know that I would love him. Wait, your guy should do it.

• 1:10:39Drew Afualo?

  Imagine my old ass man on stage with those children.

• 1:10:44Speaker 01

  Wait, wait, it's not high, wait.

• 1:10:46Drew Afualo?

  No, they're like young college students.

• 1:10:47Speaker 01

  Okay, but they're playing high schoolers.

• 1:10:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they're playing high schoolers. So imagine my man. He could be Ms. Darbus.

• 1:10:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:53Drew Afualo?

  The music teacher.

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  But also, like, it's kind of like he could play, like, if there's twenty year olds playing high schoolers, he could play a high schooler.

• 1:11:01Drew Afualo?

  I don't think so.

• 1:11:02Speaker 01

  Wait, that, okay.

• 1:11:03Drew Afualo?

  It would be like Channing Tatum in Twenty One Jump Street.

• 1:11:06Speaker 01

  He is so funny in that.

• 1:11:08Drew Afualo?

  He is. He's so funny.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  I loved when Jonah Hill was that way.

• 1:11:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, was not evil. Well, my, my brother, like, was telling my sister and my mom yesterday about how rehearsals have been going, and he's like, they're kicking my ass. And then he was telling my, he was like, yeah, because there's two casts, right? And he plays Troy in one and, and Zeke in the other, right?

• 1:11:28Speaker 01

  I'm still a little confused. So in the same.

• 1:11:32Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 1:11:32Speaker 01

  The casting you just said confused me because I, I, in the same production, like, okay, there's a show tonight.

• 1:11:39Drew Afualo?

  I think it's like a two show thing.

• 1:11:40Speaker 01

  People or he switches the shows.

• 1:11:42Drew Afualo?

  I think it's like the first show is like he's Troy, and then at the second show, he's Zeke.

• 1:11:47Speaker 01

  To switch it up, make it fun.

• 1:11:49Drew Afualo?

  Not within the same show, but I think it's like.

• 1:11:51Speaker 01

  Why are they doing that?

• 1:11:52Drew Afualo?

  I, I really couldn't tell you. Maybe because they have an oversupply of women and not enough men, so maybe that's why.

• 1:11:59Speaker 01

  But it's different shows, so they'll have enough people in the one show. So, oh, so maybe the next show, this guy can't do it.

• 1:12:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:06Speaker 01

  A woman has to take on this role. Steps into the Troy role.

• 1:12:10Drew Afualo?

  Like, yeah, he's really got to shed it, shed the skin and put on the other costume. But he's been giving, like, he was telling my, my mom and sister, my man, my, my brother has never acted. He's never, he's taken like one class. So he, he literally was telling my, my, my sister, he kept going. Yeah, like, I don't know, just like the, the, the other Troy and Gabriella, like in the other, when he's not playing Troy. He's like, there's just no intimacy. And my sister goes, the word is chemistry, you have to stop saying.

• 1:12:37Speaker 01

  Intimacy is like, he's like, they're not hooking up. He's like, it's weird.

• 1:12:42Drew Afualo?

  It's giving virgin.

• 1:12:44Speaker 01

  I literally wish that I knew when the auditions were. Like, it sounds so fun to be like in a play.

• 1:12:50Drew Afualo?

  I know, I agree. And then my sister goes, are you giving other people advice? And then he goes, well, just some like tips.

• 1:12:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:59Drew Afualo?

  My sister's like, you've never acted, so maybe we like focus, my mom goes, maybe we focus on having fun and like you.

• 1:13:07Speaker 01

  But guys can do that. Guys can do a new thing and give advice.

• 1:13:11Drew Afualo?

  That's really, and I literally said, I'm like, and because he's a man, you gotta stomp that out. No, it is all done in genuine earnest. Like, my brother is the most genuine, earnest person, like, clearly, he asked my thirty-year-old man to be in the high school musical production. So he's ve- he's like the sweetest person ever, so that's why he's like, well, just some tips. And my sister's like, don't, don't hand those out, it's okay. Just focus on being the best Troy.

• 1:13:37Speaker 01

  It's so, and that's a huge role, by the way.

• 1:13:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and he texts me and said, hey, sis, do you have any basketballs at your house that I can take to use for rehearsals? And I was like, yeah, sure. So he came to my house and picked up a basketball, and then like, my dad was like helping him pump it up, so it was like nice and full. And then my, the way my brother was dribbling, and he's like, well, don't dribble it like that.

• 1:13:57Speaker 01

  Oh, he's giving advice about you, to your dad?

• 1:13:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  He's like, he's like, why am I surrounded by people that don't know how to act?

• 1:14:04Speaker 01

  And don't know how to play basketball?

• 1:14:06Drew Afualo?

  God damn.

• 1:14:07Speaker 01

  He's getting so confident rehearsal. Wait, do you know that when I was his age?

• 1:14:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:12Speaker 01

  I made it into a production of High School Musical at a dinner theater.

• 1:14:16Drew Afualo?

  Did you really?

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  I auditioned, and I was really nervous, but I, I didn't do it because they only like cast me as like background.

• 1:14:24Drew Afualo?

  Oh, ensemble.

• 1:14:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, ensemble adult or whatever.

• 1:14:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  And then I went on-

• 1:14:29Drew Afualo?

  Adult in the crowd at the basketball game.

• 1:14:32Speaker 01

  Literally, in high school, I'd get like, adult choir. I'm like, well, none of us are adults. Like, what the hell do you mean by that? Like, do I look like an adult?

• 1:14:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, Brittany told me she was always in drag. Like, they always made her an old person or a man.

• 1:14:46Speaker 01

  Oh, old. I'm like, it is so psycho, like, drama teachers, like, putting stuff on you.

• 1:14:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:53Speaker 01

  Like, when you're doing the, like, when you're auditioning, like, this girl getting, like, the lead because, like, yes, she's a good singer, but I know you're giving me the old woman because of something else. Like, I'm not appealing to you in a certain way.

• 1:15:03Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:15:04Speaker 01

  To the drama teacher. You know what I mean?

• 1:15:07Drew Afualo?

  Creepy weirdo. It is creepy and weird, but you're a star, so you had the last laugh, obviously.

• 1:15:12Speaker 01

  But she did pass away. And I feel bad, so rest in peace, Miss Montag. She was really screaming at us a lot. But I do, of course, wish for the best for her and that she had a good life. I know.

• 1:15:23Drew Afualo?

  Kisses to the sky.

• 1:15:24Speaker 01

  And I shouldn't have announced that she passed away, but it was really, it was really sad. And she did have a boyfriend named Chef John. And we don't know why he was allowed to hang out at the school with us.

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• 1:16:38Speaker 01

  And we don't know if he was a chef. I think she would think it was fun that I gave him a tribute.

• 1:16:42Drew Afualo?

  What if his first name was Chef?

• 1:16:44Speaker 01

  I think it was probably John. But I am wondering, like, you bring up a point, like, if his name wasn't Chef and he wasn't a chef, why are we calling him Chef John?

• 1:16:56Drew Afualo?

  Maybe it's because you're dumb kids and like, it's like when you try to make a nickname happen.

• 1:16:59Speaker 01

  She made us.

• 1:17:01Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's what I'm saying. Maybe he's trying to make a nickname happen and it wasn't taking. And she's like, well, these stupid kids will call you that.

• 1:17:06Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, yes, yes.

• 1:17:07Drew Afualo?

  So maybe that's what it was.

• 1:17:08Speaker 01

  And it kind of makes it like less weird that he's at the school. Like, if he has like a fun, like, he, oh, he has a job somewhere.

• 1:17:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, cuz, well, we all call him Chef John. That'd be like if I went and I'm like, people call me Rocket. You guys can just call me Rocket.

• 1:17:22Speaker 01

  I know Rocket, like, hey, Miss Rocket. Like, it's cool you're here at the school, like.

• 1:17:29Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:17:29Speaker 01

  You did have a good point about it being John. I don't want anyone in the comments being like, oh, Meg shut her down when she said that maybe his name's Chef. I was being genuine there, like, trying to figure it out with you and I was like, maybe.

• 1:17:40Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 1:17:40Speaker 01

  You know what? Like, maybe that was a nickname of his. Like, everyone calls him Chef John.

• 1:17:43Drew Afualo?

  That he gave himself, I bet.

• 1:17:45Speaker 01

  Because he's like good at making pizza or something.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  And so people started calling him like Chef.

• 1:17:52Drew Afualo?

  Chef John, and then it just carried, honestly. Okay, I have more fun facts.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, yes.

• 1:17:56Drew Afualo?

  It says, in 2018, you tweeted at Gucci Mane, "I'm a big fan and I'm 5'7" and living in the Chicagoland area. Can you please tell me how your day was, for the love of God?"

• 1:18:06Speaker 01

  Okay, that's really weird. I don't even know who that is.

• 1:18:10Speaker 01

  I do not remember that. But I do remember when I first got a Twitter.

• 1:18:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:15Speaker 01

  Was it a Twi- was it a tweet?

• 1:18:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it was a, I, yes, it was a tweet, yes.

• 1:18:19Speaker 01

  I, I would tweet at just people that were famous so that more people would follow me. And I'm past that phase.

• 1:18:25Drew Afualo?

  You are a marketing genius, like I said.

• 1:18:27Speaker 01

  At the time, I was just trying to get my comedy to be taken off. I never, I never wanted, I never cared about like being famous, but I always cared about making a joke about being famous.

• 1:18:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so you're like, I need to be in the right room.

• 1:18:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:18:39Drew Afualo?

  To make this joke about being famous.

• 1:18:42Speaker 01

  But of course, like.

• 1:18:42Drew Afualo?

  You're so much smarter than everyone. You're 10 steps ahead.

• 1:18:44Speaker 01

  That sounded scary, though. That was like threatening. Please, for the love of God, and I.

• 1:18:49Drew Afualo?

  Tell me how your day was, please, for the love of God.

• 1:18:52Speaker 01

  What did he say?

• 1:18:54Drew Afualo?

  I'm assuming nothing.

• 1:18:55Speaker 01

  I'm assuming nothing.

• 1:18:56Drew Afualo?

  There was no response.

• 1:18:56Speaker 01

  Was there how many likes? Five, I'm guessing?

• 1:19:01Speaker 01

  I think it did work sometimes, though, like getting people to. It it made me tweet a lot.

• 1:19:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I mean, that's how to do it. I loved Twitter before it turned evil. That was like one of my favorite places. Uh, it says you did a dance to NSYNC song Space Cowboy for your elementary school talent show.

• 1:19:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:19:18Drew Afualo?

  I also did an elementary school talent show and I danced to Thriller by Michael Jackson.

• 1:19:23Speaker 01

  That like the original dance?

• 1:19:25Drew Afualo?

  Well, see, yes, but the thing was I did not want to watch the music video. I only wanted to watch Jennifer Garner and Mark Ruffalo do it in Thirteen Going on Thirty. So my sister and I watched that scene and we just kept rewinding it and only learned the parts that she does that you can see.

• 1:19:40Speaker 01

  Oh, I love that.

• 1:19:41Drew Afualo?

  So every other part of the song, we were just kind of standing there. But those parts that she did, we were killing.

• 1:19:46Speaker 01

  I like that. I don't need to see someone dancing the whole time. I like to see someone sitting there.

• 1:19:51Drew Afualo?

  Mind you, my sister is sick to her stomach with fear because she's so nervous to do that in front of people. No one's watching. It was at like an end of the year carnival. The talent show and all she wanted to do was the cake walk. Because she's weird like that.

• 1:20:02Speaker 01

  And the cake walks when you win a cake while you're walking?

• 1:20:05Drew Afualo?

  Yes, it's like it's like musical chairs. It's like musical chairs. So you move and then when the music stops, if you land on a certain spot, you get the cake. You get to pick a cake. And that was her favorite thing to do at the end of the year carnival because she's weird.

• 1:20:20Speaker 01

  My family always loved winning everything at stuff like that.

• 1:20:23Drew Afualo?

  My mom too.

• 1:20:24Speaker 01

  We'd have like five cakes.

• 1:20:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. No, my sister would like nervously stand there and stare at my mom the whole time because she wanted to participate but was afraid. So then my mom would walk around the circle with her just so she didn't feel alone.

• 1:20:37Speaker 01

  That's so sweet.

• 1:20:39Drew Afualo?

  And don't diagnose her off that. Don't.

• 1:20:42Speaker 01

  There's there's definitely like, um, you want like you want to be there. Like you want to be doing the cake walk, but it the nerves are like maybe stopping, but there is a there is a desire to be on scene.

• 1:20:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, spiritual draw to the cake walk. Yeah, she felt very drawn to the cake walk.

• 1:20:59Speaker 01

  But were you ever nervous to be on like in front of people?

• 1:21:02Drew Afualo?

  Never. That's like it was my idea to do the thriller thing.

• 1:21:04Speaker 01

  Do love it. I do love it. I I cried my eyes out the day before the audition for the talent show because I didn't have anything. So then my mom took me to my friend's house to make up a dance. I was like, I didn't have any idea of what my talents were. I knew I wanted to be on stage. Like what is what's wrong with me? Like, I really wanted to. I needed, I needed to.

• 1:21:27Drew Afualo?

  You needed to, you needed to put something out there.

• 1:21:29Speaker 01

  Why?

• 1:21:30Drew Afualo?

  I'm assuming the undying need for attention.

• 1:21:32Speaker 01

  But that's the other thing is like, mine is weird, because like-

• 1:21:35Drew Afualo?

  I wanted to entertain, like, that's what I really wanted to do.

• 1:21:38Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying, I don't want just like, attention like,

• 1:21:40Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 1:21:40Speaker 01

  Oh, like, look at her, she's in this crazy outfit. It's more like the, I have a need or want to be on stage and someone to be getting enjoyment and, and feel something.

• 1:21:51Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:21:51Speaker 01

  To walk away being like, there was something about you, your performance that made me feel something.

• 1:21:55Drew Afualo?

  You were magnetic.

• 1:21:56Speaker 01

  What is that? I don't know.

• 1:21:57Drew Afualo?

  I don't know. In my family, like, for some reason, at Samwon family reunions, they love doing talent shows, I don't really know why.

• 1:22:03Speaker 01

  We do those too, yeah.

• 1:22:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so, for one, one year, me and my sister did the Hoedown Throwdown from the Hannah Montana movie.

• 1:22:09Speaker 01

  So good.

• 1:22:10Drew Afualo?

  Because I told her, I was like, well, we have to do something. We didn't. But I was like, we have to do something, we have to get up that this audience needs a performer.

• 1:22:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:17Drew Afualo?

  And so we went out there, and it's my Samwon, like, ass family, like, none of them give a fuck about Hannah Montana. None of them know anything about it, like, half of them don't speak English, so it's very like, wrong room. But I told her, we did the entire three-minute song, like, the entire thing, and like, not one clap during. And then at the end, everyone was like, oh, nice.

• 1:22:39Speaker 01

  I know that feeling, and I know it's like, I would do anything to have the feeling of that. And I don't know, but it's not, we don't want just attention, because if we did, we'd love going to those breakfasts, as you were talking about.

• 1:22:51Drew Afualo?

  You're right, you're right.

• 1:22:52Speaker 01

  We would just love that, like, it's the performance.

• 1:22:55Drew Afualo?

  You're right, because when I got off that stage, not one clap the whole time, I didn't give a damn. I thought I killed.

• 1:22:59Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:22:59Drew Afualo?

  I was like, well, these people are clearly just gathering themselves after I gave the performance of a lifetime.

• 1:23:05Speaker 01

  Literally, my live shows, it's like a hostage event. If people aren't laughing, I'm still going, and I'm having the best time. Like, I'm like, they can leave if they want, but I'm literally like, in heaven, like, I'm truly like, doing what I'm supposed to, I don't know, like-

• 1:23:21Drew Afualo?

  No, and that's a beautiful thing, and I think that's why you're so successful. Okay, this one says you belong to a Facebook group called Coffee Lovers and Sass, and posted in the group in 2018 that you were starting a coffee business out of your driveway called Beans and Babies.

• 1:23:36Speaker 01

  Okay, I don't know about that. I definitely pro- like definitely had a stage where I I don't know what the beans and babies thing is. Maybe it was like a mother's coffee event.

• 1:23:47Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:23:47Speaker 01

  But I definitely used to post a lot before like doing videos. I would post a lot in like not like tons of Facebook groups. It'd be like.

• 1:23:56Drew Afualo?

  Caleb did the same thing.

• 1:23:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:58Drew Afualo?

  He said he joined a ton of them just to see and to like.

• 1:24:01Speaker 01

  It's like prank humor. It's like literally prank humor. It's like it's like seeing what the responses will be, then screenshotting it, posting on my Facebook. It was like a way to do like, like, yeah, pranks. Unlike no one, like, like, like random nice people. Yeah, harmless. And I got really crazy in our high school reunion Facebook page.

• 1:24:22Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I can't even imagine.

• 1:24:23Speaker 01

  And I was like, why would I come here? All of you guys were so mean to me. And then the meanest one commented and was like, I wasn't mean to you. I said, you were the meanest one. And oh, when I, oh, the joke part was I was, I said, I'm a lawyer now.

• 1:24:34Drew Afualo?

  I was gonna, I was gonna say, that doesn't sound like a joke.

• 1:24:36Speaker 01

  No, I said, you guys were mean, I'm a lawyer now. And then she messaged me pictures of myself at the Rainforest Cafe. And she was like, yeah, you really seem like a lawyer. I'm like, well, lawyers could go to the Rainforest Cafe. Like, why does that prove I'm not a lawyer? Like, I'm like, starting to believe I'm a lawyer. I'm like, hey, don't make me take you to court.

• 1:24:56Speaker 01

  This was after one of my meetings.

• 1:24:59Speaker 01

  I was unwinding. Yeah, after a big case.

• 1:25:02Drew Afualo?

  I just won the big, using, okay, lawyers can still go to Rainforest Cafe.

• 1:25:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm like, I'm celebrating my case. Like, what is wrong with you? I'm like literally about to go to Harvard to prove her wrong.

• 1:25:13Drew Afualo?

  Do you like the Rainforest Cafe?

• 1:25:14Speaker 01

  Well.

• 1:25:15Drew Afualo?

  Did you like it?

• 1:25:16Speaker 01

  I feel like the food's really crazy because you could order something and it's so huge. And then someone could order something and it's so small, it just isn't proportionate. Like, pro- proportional.

• 1:25:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's not very proportional.

• 1:25:27Speaker 01

  And it's not that good, but I do love the atmosphere. Like, I love the.

• 1:25:31Drew Afualo?

  Did you ever celebrate a birthday there?

• 1:25:33Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 1:25:33Drew Afualo?

  Did you see the volcano bit that they do?

• 1:25:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, like the when the the actual rain.

• 1:25:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and they like have the lights flashing and then they go volcano for like probably about two minutes too long, but like they say that over and over again.

• 1:25:47Speaker 01

  So fun.

• 1:25:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I went to a birthday at the Rainforest Cafe and when I saw that shit, I really felt like I was at Cirque du Soleil. I was like, oh my god, the pageantry of it all.

• 1:25:56Speaker 01

  They're trying to save the real Rainforest, they need to save that restaurant because they are closing everywhere. Keep the Rainforest Cafe going.

• 1:26:04Drew Afualo?

  Especially for all the lawyers. Where are the lawyers gonna go?

• 1:26:07Speaker 01

  How are we supposed to party after a big, big stack of papers that we went over with someone's divorce? I can't believe her looking at my page like, oh yeah, she's probably not a lawyer. And she was so mean to me and she was like, she was like my best friend then turned on me because the like cheerleaders didn't like me. It was horrible. And I was a cheerleader. I was a ner- like a nerdy one.

• 1:26:29Drew Afualo?

  That's really cute though. I think that's beautiful.

• 1:26:32Speaker 01

  For a little tiny bit of time.

• 1:26:33Drew Afualo?

  I, my sister and I were athletes in high school, but we one time for some reason got like a wild hair up our ass and we're like, let's do cheer. We had never done cheer. We did cheer when we were little, but like, because my mom was a cheerleader for a long time. But I, once I grew out of being a flyer, I was like, fuck this sport. Like if I can't be thrown, I'm not.

• 1:26:51Speaker 01

  Oh, I was gonna say, I could see you be a cheerleader because you're so charismatic, but you would be the one that's like a nice cheerleader.

• 1:26:56Drew Afualo?

  Thank you, I appreciate that. We literally were like, okay, so since I'm a big bitch, like how am I gonna demonstrate like my contributions to the team? And I was like, oh, I'll just like hold someone. Like I'll just like be a base.

• 1:27:08Speaker 01

  You had, yeah.

• 1:27:09Drew Afualo?

  Right? So I was thinking that and we literally rehearsed so much like, like for the audition and then like the day before.

• 1:27:15Speaker 01

  You have to rehearse like practice holding each other?

• 1:27:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, yes. And Jason was trying to learn how to do a backflip.

• 1:27:21Speaker 01

  Oh, I never got, I, a man would have to come and flip me over and I could do a back handspring if he was flipping me over. And I worked for years on that. Like, what's the point? He's not gonna come on the court and do that.

• 1:27:31Drew Afualo?

  Well, I need you, I need you, otherwise I can't do my flip. Yeah, so, and then we bailed like the day before. We were like,

• 1:27:36Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 1:27:37Drew Afualo?

  Do you wanna go to that? And we were like, nah.

• 1:27:39Speaker 01

  Wait, that's so cool.

• 1:27:41Drew Afualo?

  And we just didn't show up. But we were talking a big game.

• 1:27:43Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 1:27:44Drew Afualo?

  We were like, we're gonna go and we're gonna be cheerleaders. And then we just, we both looked at each other and we were like.

• 1:27:49Speaker 01

  That's way more cool and powerful than like, what I did, which was not make the team a year and then never do it again. You know what I mean? Like, waiting, like, waiting, seeing if my name's on the paper?

• 1:27:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:28:00Speaker 01

  Oh, come on.

• 1:28:01Drew Afualo?

  I've done that, though.

• 1:28:01Speaker 01

  They should let anyone that wants to be a cheerleader on the squad.

• 1:28:04Drew Afualo?

  No shit. You can never get enough.

• 1:28:06Speaker 01

  They should. It's like, have fifty girls out there doing it. And it takes the power away from, like, popular girls.

• 1:28:12Drew Afualo?

  Also, like, split them up so they go to each sport. You know what I mean? Like,

• 1:28:16Speaker 01

  Well, yeah.

• 1:28:16Drew Afualo?

  You can cheer on every sport. You have endless amounts of cheerleaders.

• 1:28:19Speaker 01

  Could you imagine an adult watching poor me try to do a cartwheel and then be like, she's just not cutting it? For a, like, eighth grade cheerer? Like, what a loser.

• 1:28:30Drew Afualo?

  I know. What loser. It's, again, it's.

• 1:28:32Speaker 01

  I would never do that.

• 1:28:33Drew Afualo?

  The back to the creepy guy that was like trying to control your improv.

• 1:28:36Speaker 01

  Powerful. I'm like, just let us all in. Let us all be Maria in Sound of Music. Oh my god, how fun. Five Marias at the same time, doing the lines at the same time.

• 1:28:46Drew Afualo?

  All starting at different points of the song.

• 1:28:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:28:48Drew Afualo?

  And then you all meet up at the end.

• 1:28:49Speaker 01

  That's so, taking turns. Every scene, there's a new Maria. How fun is that?

• 1:28:55Drew Afualo?

  And everybody looks completely different.

• 1:28:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:28:57Drew Afualo?

  No harmony whatsoever, the looks.

• 1:29:00Speaker 01

  The two guys that auditioned for the guy part could be switching off and then like twelve girls that wanna be the lead. Like, switch?

• 1:29:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I think so.

• 1:29:09Speaker 01

  Why not?

• 1:29:10Drew Afualo?

  We're chock full of ideas. We gotta write them down so we don't forget.

• 1:29:14Speaker 01

  We need to start a children's theater together. With your brother.

• 1:29:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, with my brother.

• 1:29:18Speaker 01

  Cause he can teach them how to act.

• 1:29:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, obviously, we need, we need a true thespian, like my brother, to be able to give out tips.

• 1:29:26Speaker 01

  And then we'll all play basketball.

• 1:29:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just for fun. That's besides the point. Well, thank you for coming on the show. I fucking love you.

• 1:29:33Speaker 01

  I love you too.

• 1:29:33Drew Afualo?

  I've had the best time chatting with you.

• 1:29:35Speaker 01

  Me too, for real. A lot of times on podcasts, I can keep my mask off, on, sorry. And now I'm taking it off for you. It felt like I was myself.

• 1:29:43Drew Afualo?

  I'm so glad. I'm so happy to hear that. Mask back on.

• 1:29:49Speaker 01

  Oh, but by the way, like you could tell what my shirt says, right? Because

• 1:29:53Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:29:54Speaker 01

  I did an interview where I was wearing a shirt that said irresistible. And the woman, it was on Zoom and she said, I love your resist shirt.

• 1:30:01Drew Afualo?

  Resist.

• 1:30:02Speaker 01

  And I just was like.

• 1:30:05Drew Afualo?

  You said.

• 1:30:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause I didn't want to just know that it said, like, I'm like, I'm not gonna be like, no, it says irresistible. Cause it's like the words were bent. Resistin' really her.

• 1:30:18Drew Afualo?

  Well, thank you so much.

• 1:30:22Speaker 01

  Does it?

• 1:30:25Drew Afualo?

  That's for me, cause I'm the ally.

• 1:30:26Speaker 01

  Resistin' really her. I mean, there's nothing wrong with me wearing an ally shirt.

• 1:30:30Drew Afualo?

  No, absolutely not.

• 1:30:31Speaker 01

  Ally to straight people.

• 1:30:32Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:30:33Speaker 01

  And then also resist, of course, but irresistible, I mean, that is what the shirt said.

• 1:30:37Drew Afualo?

  That's obviously, that makes more sense.

• 1:30:39Speaker 01

  For what I, the way that I was dressed up and, and I had a pearl necklace on, you know?

• 1:30:44Drew Afualo?

  So.

• 1:30:45Speaker 01

  There's something about resist with like a big, like pearl necklace.

• 1:30:49Drew Afualo?

  That's kinda not.

• 1:30:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's not really hitting.

• 1:30:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it doesn't hit the same. I agree with you. Well, you know what? I fucking love you. I think you're a star and I'm so happy you got to come hang out with me.

• 1:31:00Speaker 01

  I feel the same. I never want to leave and you're a star. I feel the same about you, not myself. I feel the same about me, thank you. I feel the same about you and I can't believe that you are really her. Because I've been a fan for so long.

• 1:31:13Drew Afualo?

  Thank you, and we're really us.

• 1:31:15Speaker 01

  And I'll be resisting not seeing you again. Right? Or wait, I can't resist seeing you again.

• 1:31:22Drew Afualo?

  You'll find it, you'll find it, you'll find it.

• 1:31:26Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much for coming for maybe the one straight person that's unfamiliar with you that watches me. Where can everybody find you?

• 1:31:32Speaker 01

  Um, you can find me on, um, TV sometimes and you can find me on, online and in my show Too Much and my show Hacks that

• 1:31:41Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:31:41Speaker 01

  the season's coming out. By the time this airs, maybe it's out now. And a new secret project coming soon that you're gonna

• 1:31:50Drew Afualo?

  She doesn't even know.

• 1:31:52Speaker 01

  And a new secret project coming that I know you're gonna crave.

• 1:31:59Speaker 01

  Bailey told me not to say it. Bailey told me not to tell you. But if it's, if it's already out, then you'll know what crave means.

• 1:32:08Drew Afualo?

  Interesting.

• 1:32:09Speaker 01

  I'm getting an OnlyFans.

• 1:32:14Drew Afualo?

  You're replacing Connor's story on Heated Rivalry? You're gonna play him?

• 1:32:18Speaker 01

  I will be in a movie with Candace Owens that's coming out.

• 1:32:23Drew Afualo?

  Well, thank you so much for coming. I fucking love you. You're a fucking star and everybody knows that. I've seen your praises everywhere I go. I'm so happy I got to hang out with you.

• 1:32:31Speaker 01

  And I'm so glad that you get to see my secret project coming soon.

• 1:32:35Drew Afualo?

  You're gonna crave it.

• 1:32:36Speaker 01

  You're going to be craving it. It's gonna be unexpected.

• 1:32:40Drew Afualo?

  There you go. I believe it. And thank you all so much.

• 1:32:43Speaker 01

  It feels like I was coming out with a line of shoes. Why, like wide shoes, plus size shoes.

• 1:32:48Drew Afualo?

  Wide shoes, plus size shoes. Body positive shoes?

• 1:32:51Speaker 01

  I'm like, does, wait, does Bailey want me to talk about the shoe thing?

• 1:32:55Drew Afualo?

  My fat girl shoes?

• 1:32:57Speaker 01

  Fat girl shoes is so funny.

• 1:32:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, one time a, a, a really huge brand, um, had like an idea and they were gonna, wanted to cast me in, in like a commercial thing. Underneath my, my bio, they had my name. There were other people next to me that were like, star, singer, songwriter, Grammy Award winner. Undermine, body positive influencer.

• 1:33:20Speaker 01

  That is making my stomach literally hurt. Do you know that Jenny Craig asked me to be the?

• 1:33:28Speaker 01

  I'm not kidding. I, I literally was like, it doesn't matter how much money, I really can't do that.

• 1:33:35Speaker 01

  Wait, wait, it's not even just like commercials, it's like be the new person. Which would be so funny as a joke.

• 1:33:40Drew Afualo?

  Atkins guy?

• 1:33:41Speaker 01

  Like literally be Jenny Craig woman. Like be the spokes, the spokesperson. And I said like, well, I don't think I should do that right now. And it was pretty early on. So that's what I'd be known for. I, you would be like, where can people find you? I'd, I'd be like drinking in one of the shakes. On Jenny Craig, Jenny's Craig.

• 1:33:59Drew Afualo?

  You're on, you're on, how much money? I really can't be doing that.

• 1:34:02Speaker 01

  I can't, you guys. Come on. I'm serious.

• 1:34:04Drew Afualo?

  It's okay. You, you've been hit up by them. I've been hit up by Weight Watchers.

• 1:34:12Drew Afualo?

  I'm being serious.

• 1:34:13Speaker 01

  I can't wait.

• 1:34:14Drew Afualo?

  And I said, you know what, like, let me just, you know what?

• 1:34:17Speaker 01

  I feel like they have to wait till we come to that. They should not come to me like that. I'm like, literally trying to enjoy my morning. I'm trying to enjoy my damn morning. I'm at a coffee shop getting called. My manager's completely scared to her wits to tell me. I'm like, literally, keep it to yourself next time. I don't want to hear about that. Imagine having your job being you have to call someone and tell them that Jenny Craig wants them. And their spokesperson forever. I'm like, forever?

• 1:34:41Drew Afualo?

  Who's that guy that does Atkins? The actor? He's a white guy. Rob Lowe. That's who it is. He does Atkins like for like forever. He's been doing it for the last 20 something years.

• 1:34:53Speaker 01

  Well, I'm like, also like, do I have to eat the eat the stuff? Like also, I'm imagining they would want me to lose a little bit of weight to be like, I'm loving it. You know what I mean? Like also.

• 1:35:05Drew Afualo?

  You can't do that right now. I can't.

• 1:35:07Speaker 01

  I literally can't get like, please do not talk to me about this right now. Like, I'm like, I'm thinking about, I'm imagining like.

• 1:35:14Drew Afualo?

  That made me sweat laughing about it.

• 1:35:16Speaker 01

  If as a joke, but I just don't think that they, they would know I was doing it as a joke. How funny as a joke. Like if I did it right now as a joke. But I can't just do that. And us filming them being like, let's get those pants up higher.

• 1:35:32Drew Afualo?

  They have me holding my big fat pants up.

• 1:35:35Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:35:36Drew Afualo?

  Look how big these are. And I don't even fit in them anymore. That's the type of shit they bring us.

• 1:35:42Speaker 01

  It's crazy. I know I can't. Also, just imagining like, yes, she seems like she is big enough where it's still hot. But she also could lose a little bit of weight from our thing. And she like, you know what I'm saying? They're looking for people that could have, you see them and you go, maybe they just lost a little weight. They don't want anyone like too like big. They want someone the perfect amount of curvy.

• 1:36:10Speaker 01

  I can't.

• 1:36:11Drew Afualo?

  And they wouldn't describe us as curvy. That's the like most.

• 1:36:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:36:14Drew Afualo?

  That's the most insane part.

• 1:36:14Speaker 01

  No, exactly.

• 1:36:15Drew Afualo?

  They wouldn't even use that word.

• 1:36:16Speaker 01

  They want, wanted someone, they wanted someone chubby that people can call fat online.

• 1:36:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:21Speaker 01

  But someone not so chubby that they wouldn't, that they had to get the pants too, too big.

• 1:36:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 1:36:29Speaker 01

  Like, yes.

• 1:36:29Drew Afualo?

  They need a believable fat.

• 1:36:30Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:36:31Drew Afualo?

  You know, they're like, yeah, like some people, they're like, oh, she needs to be, I played like a stripper. Like that was, I had to be like believable. And then ours is being a big fat guy. That's who the fuck ours is.

• 1:36:42Speaker 01

  I can't.

• 1:36:43Drew Afualo?

  She's believable.

• 1:36:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's not gonna do the Jenny Craig thing just yet. Like, I, I can't, I'm like, right now in my career, I cannot do that. I actually think now I could do it and people would be like, this has to be a joke.

• 1:36:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:36:56Speaker 01

  But before, I know if that was the intro, intro to me.

• 1:36:59Drew Afualo?

  No, you're smart. You're very smart.

• 1:37:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, now I'm ready, if you want to come back.

• 1:37:02Drew Afualo?

  Now, eh.

• 1:37:03Speaker 01

  Who, who did take that job? Cause I haven't seen any Jenny Craig commercials.

• 1:37:07Drew Afualo?

  Me either, to be honest. Maybe Rob Lowe.

• 1:37:10Speaker 01

  Or like the Weight Watchers thing.

• 1:37:12Drew Afualo?

  I don't know.

• 1:37:12Speaker 01

  Who took that?

• 1:37:13Drew Afualo?

  I don't even know. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

• 1:37:16Speaker 01

  You are an amazing actress. You are a vulnerable, hilarious, genius. And I, like, I feel so connected to you.

• 1:37:23Drew Afualo?

  Thank you likewise.

• 1:37:24Speaker 01

  I know that people feel that way when watching you. So I know you're gonna get a million acting jobs.

• 1:37:28Drew Afualo?

  Thank you. And I can't wait to continue to watch your star powers, like, just shine. Like, people are now becoming so aware of how amazing you are. And it's about goddamn time, honestly. I can't wait to, to keep watching you rise. Like, you are so important to the space. And I loved having you. I think you're a gem.

• 1:37:46Speaker 01

  I love you.

• 1:37:47Drew Afualo?

  I love you. Look at us.

• 1:37:48Speaker 01

  And you mean the world to me. And I know you would never take a joke from Caleb.

• 1:37:52Drew Afualo?

  No, never. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate the confidence in it. Thank you all so much for tuning into this episode of the comment section show. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Meg Stalter. I'm sure all of you already know her and follow her and consume her content. But if you haven't, please fucking do. She's a genius and incredible. And I called it. I knew she was gonna be a star. But that's besides the point, because you can watch new episodes of the comment section every Wednesday. Don't forget, the audio is available on all streaming platforms with video lists for free and exclusively on Spotify. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Meg. Thank you so much to all of you. And I'll see you next week. Bye.