The Snack: Super Bowl Beef and Dream Cabinet Picks

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: The Eagles winning the Super Bowl Kendrick Lamar's halftime show Travis Kelce's post-game outfit Paige and Craig's breakup Our Cabinet picks The Bachelorette on pause (and why) What we've been watching and reading Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: BelliWelli: Get 20% at https://belliwelli.com with code GGE20. Brooklinen: Get 15% off your first order at https://brooklinen.com. Cymbiotika: Get 20% and free shipping at https://cymbiotika.com/girlsgottaeat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome to the snack, a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat.

• 0:04Rayna Greenberg?

  This is a Dear Media production.

• 0:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Enjoy.

• 0:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi guys.

• 0:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  E A G L E S Eagles, all Eagles episode.

• 0:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Am I supposed to say something like, do you say go birds after that?

• 0:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Fly Eagles fly on the road to victory.

• 0:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Can I tell you?

• 0:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hit them low, hit them high and watch those Eagles fly.

• 0:30Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 0:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't realize that the celebrity fandom of the Eagles. I just, I didn't know how many people were from Philly, how many huge celebrities. Like, it's not just like who went to the game. It's like people that are like native to Philadelphia.

• 0:43Rayna Greenberg?

  No, like Bradley Cooper is our spokesperson. Like, are people even understanding the hype videos? He's narrating them. Like, he brought them out of the tunnel. Jon Hamm brought out the Chiefs.

• 0:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jon Hamm looks so dusty. Like, I was like, that's not Jon Hamm. That's not Don Draper, just looking old as fuck.

• 1:03Rayna Greenberg?

  He got booed. Jon Hamm's like, fuck all of y'all. I'm out here, Don fucking Draper. And now see this team as they run out of the tunnel and I'm getting booed?

• 1:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, is he from Kansas City?

• 1:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I actually have no idea.

• 1:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:18Rayna Greenberg?

  He's like, now do Taylor.

• 1:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, you know who? I, I thought I knew most of like our people, like, you know, obviously like Bradley Cooper and Miles Teller. And I knew Kevin Hart was a big fan. I didn't know Anne Hathaway.

• 1:29Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm telling you, these took me by surprise. I did not know. It's just, I mean, I'm a lifelong Steelers fan. I love them so much, but there's not like celebrity Steelers fans. No, I mean, there's, I mean, that Snoop Dogg made the Pirates hat like really famous. Like the Pirates, like the, the yellow pea hat. But like Steelers don't have any fame.

• 1:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  That is true. No, I love being an Eagles fan. It feels so good. I mean, your honorary.

• 1:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I like their, their shit. I sent you this thing this morning. I get served it all the time. Rich people who rich right?

• 2:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Jalen Hurts.

• 2:02Rayna Greenberg?

  And Jalen Hurts was on there and usually they just talk about people's outfits and how they dress, which like, there's so much to work with with him. But on top of it, they talked about all of his charitable. Efforts.

• 2:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  They do so much for the community.

• 2:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 2:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you Bradley Cooper, the little boy he was holding? Don't I'll cry right now, Declan. Don't get me started on Declan.

• 2:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Bradley was on his like food truck, just handing out.

• 2:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I will, the Eagles, like Autism Foundation. I could cry right now. I can't, I can't get into like what they do for the community. They're really the best. Their social media is the best. We have had it confirmed from someone who worked at the Cowboys organization that the Eagles' social media is the best in the biz, in the league. Okay. You know what? We'll get into it, but.

• 2:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I will thank our partners and we'll get into it. Um, thanks to Brooklyn and get 15% off your first order at brooklinen.com and Bellywelly get 20% off at belliwelli.com with code GGE20.

• 2:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. And thanks to Symbiotica, get 20% off and free shipping at symbiotica.com/girlsgottoeat.

• 2:58Rayna Greenberg?

  So we are just gonna, we're gonna talk about the Super Bowl a lot. I mean, there was just so much to talk about. I, I don't know if you looked this up, the stat, was it the biggest blowout in like, Super Bowl history?

• 3:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, that stat? I feel like I should know that. It was the most watched Super Bowl.

• 3:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, it was?

• 3:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  In Super Bowl history. Yeah.

• 3:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think, who do you think brought more viewers, Taylor or Trump?

• 3:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jalen and Saquon and Slay Jr. And Jordan Maylata.

• 3:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Slay Jr.

• 3:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Slay Jr. No, Slay Papa. That's his name. You dare you Slay? And he'll come up again. You're not even ready for how else he's gonna appear in this episode. Can I tell you? So Jordan Maylata is one of my hall passes. He is an offensive tackle for the Eagles and he's number 68. He's from Australia. He like never played American football in his life and.

• 3:47Rayna Greenberg?

  That's your hall pass.

• 3:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just think, I just love him, but now someone, I just adore him and he like, and he sings. He's, he's like part of like, you don't think he's hot?

• 3:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe I Googled the wrong person. This guy? Well, Rayna, you pulled up some old pictures. So, what even is that?

• 4:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, you have to dive into him because he loves Beyonce. He, I'm just obsessed with his whole vibe. You know what he said, Rayna? Did you see this clip? He was on the field with somebody and he was like, he said to someone like right after he tackled him. He was like, the, the line from, that Bane says, he was like, I was wondering which would break first, your body or your spirit?

• 4:29Rayna Greenberg?

  He said it to their face on the-

• 4:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's like he was talking shit.

• 4:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, I'm saying this because someone DM'd me and was like, Ashley, why is number 68 on the equals the exact mix of your fiance and your brother?

• 4:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  And why is that so accurate?

• 4:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Why is Jordan Milata exact- Milata?

• 5:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I was like, sis, you're right. And he's one of my hall passes and this is weird now.

• 5:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you remember when I thought that stripper was hot and you guys thought he looked like my brother?

• 5:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, he really was sexy. And then I was, and then to make it even weirder, I texted my brother a photo of the guy. Rayna, that was so fucking weird. It's one of those weird Rayna moments where Rayna's flirting with her family. Like when you sent, when you sent your dad that sexy pic from Miami.

• 5:31Rayna Greenberg?

  That was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

• 5:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was so, you showed me that. Rayna is on the sidelines at sound check, checking out this guy. She's like, oh, he's so sexy. I'm like, he looks like Arlen. You text Arlen, you're like, there's this hot stripper here. I've been eye fucking and he looks like you. I was like, what is the Greenberg family?

• 5:53Rayna Greenberg?

  It's because I come from a divorced family. There's no mom to like keep us in check.

• 5:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I feel like people in the comments are like, I also come from a broken family and we don't.

• 6:04Rayna Greenberg?

  That sexy pic I sent my dad was really weird. Like I sent the same pic to somebody I was sleeping with. That was so weird. Tessa looks more uncomfortable than I've ever seen her be. Um, I had so much fun watching this. I hosted a Super Bowl party and then they opened, Lady Gaga opened and then they immediately go into this drum line. Your brother said it's a famous, a famous drum line?

• 6:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I missed that. Was it Trombone Shorty?

• 6:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I, it's like a hundred people on the field. I have no idea.

• 6:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't want to misspeak. I think, I think Trombone Shorty was there. They're a famous New Orleans band. I love them. And then someone said Harry Connick Jr. Was in that?

• 6:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I said, but I couldn't tell who it was. It looked like Harry Connick Jr. But.

• 6:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, you just said that.

• 6:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm sure Trombone Shorty was there.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  They performed with Lauren Daigle, who sang America the Beautiful. So that's, yes.

• 6:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  During that, okay.

• 6:54Rayna Greenberg?

  It was incredible. I was so happy. I was alone at my house, just like marching along with the marching band. I had so much fun.

• 7:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tessa, look up biggest Super Bowl blowouts. I don't think that it was. It would have been when it was 40 to six, I think. Like when it, when it was actually 40 to six.

• 7:10Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, I've said to you, the thing that was so shocking was that like, sometimes like a team will accidentally make it to the Super Bowl and you're like, how did they get here? But like, these are the two best teams, like by far in the NFL. Like they dominate every single week and like to watch one of them lose this, this big was shocking. I've never seen anything and like it. I have also never seen a couple lose so big in one week. Taylor Swift lost the entire Grammys and then Travis Kelce got his ass handed to him. It was great. One week?

• 7:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And she had that pussy chain around her neck. She had her little T pussy chain.

• 7:47Rayna Greenberg?

  You think she took it off halfway through?

• 7:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  She was like, fuck this chain. She's like, it's got bad juju.

• 7:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Get out of here.

• 7:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. Like I wore it to the Grammys and that's the bad luck pussy chain.

• 7:55Rayna Greenberg?

  That's so funny.

• 7:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I. I will say, the game was boring and I, I loved it because I didn't have to stress. I mean, I was, I was getting a little stressed. I was like, they could still come back. I am scarred forever from 2017 when I was rooting for the Falcons. I had just moved from Atlanta and they were up 30 points above the Patriots and then they, the Patriots came back. This was one of the biggest comebacks in Super Bowl history, probably. So I'm always like, I never get too comfortable, but it was just like, I mean, Jalen Hurts dominated. There wasn't any really big explosive plays from Saquon Barkley. It was his birthday. Happy birthday, Saquon. But, I mean, they still played together as a team. Jalen just absolutely was phenomenal. He was the MVP of the game, hottest man alive. And it was just fun to

• 8:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  watch because I'm an Eagles fan, but like, it wasn't any sort of back and forth, exciting game in that aspect.

• 8:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't watch one minute of that game. All I did was drink and hang out, flirt around and like, I, I mean, it was like watching a JV team play a professional team and it's shocking because you're talking about like, one of the most famous and like, well-known, successful quarterback receiver pairs in the history of time. And like, how did this happen?

• 9:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love to see it.

• 9:10Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, it was, it was boring and I liked that. I didn't really have to pay attention.

• 9:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I know. I mean, my, yeah, my stress level is never really, my heart rate, you know?

• 9:19Rayna Greenberg?

  But we talk about how like, these things are rigged and like, it's like, I saw this TikTok in the morning and it said like, the Super Bowl script was leaked and that like, the Eagles were going to be way ahead at halftime. And then like, Travis Kelce was going to have some big speech and they were going to like, come back and they were going to be down by-

• 9:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like a movie, a big locker room speech.

• 9:35Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, people say that, like, I know, I was like, are we filming these-

• 9:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  People say it's rigged and I was, honestly, like, I had of this bad feeling that like, Trump wants the Chiefs to win. Obviously, he loves Brittany Mahomes. Now she's like this MAGA wag. Yeah. And like, he just is like, more of a Chiefs guy. I mean, Chiefs, the Chiefs are MAGA, you know, like, like owners, whatever, like a whole thing. And I just was like, he's going to be there. And like, just with, with what's happening with his overreach and everything, I was just like, what if, you know, what if he's threatening the NFL? Fell, you know, and I just had that like sickening feeling and

• 10:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 10:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't think that's ridiculous considering everything else that's happening in the world. And so I was like, I need the Eagles to just fucking mop the floor with the Chiefs for me to like feel safe. And that's what they did.

• 10:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it was so shocking. I mean, his allegiance to the Chiefs, you know, and their allegiance to him. And even Travis Kelce like was quoted in this

• 10:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 10:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Interview, I wrote down the quote, it's about Donald Trump coming to the Super Bowl. First president to go to the Super Bowl, sort of sitting president.

• 10:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  First president for us to pay for him to go to the Super Bowl.

• 10:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Sure, yeah.

• 10:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Your tax dollars at work.

• 10:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you guys saving money now?

• 10:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Brought a bunch of people, fuck.

• 10:45Rayna Greenberg?

  It's a great honor, I think, no matter who the president is, I'm excited because it's the biggest game of my life. And having the presidents there, it's the best country in the world and it would be pretty cool. This is a person who tweeted out, I hate your girlfriend.

• 10:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I kind of forget about that tweet sometimes, like that was real life.

• 11:02Rayna Greenberg?

  No, that was, I, I hate Taylor Swift.

• 11:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  All caps, middle school.

• 11:05Rayna Greenberg?

  And then as they're booing her at the stadium tweets out again, MAGA never forgets or something like that.

• 11:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, like he, he, he, he really did try to dunk on her. He was like, what'd he say? Like, what was his tweet? The only person that lost worse than the Chiefs was Taylor Swift.

• 11:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  If he wasn't our president, this man, like, he, does he think he's Kendrick?

• 11:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, he thinks he's Kendrick. I feel like this is like the other beef.

• 11:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my God, but like, I liked the comparison of Travis Kelce versus Jalen Hertz. Not that they're quarterback for quarterback, you know, they're different positions, but it, you know, I, obviously it's like stars of the team. And Jalen Hertz got asked during a press conference last week, is there more added pressure? Because the president's going to be there and he just goes, no ma'am. And like turns his head like, next question, please. Also, Jalen Hertz, a lot of people don't know this, he has an all female management team. Do you know this?

• 11:56Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 11:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Everyone that works for him is female. Like, it just is like they're, it's such a good team to be proud of. They have a woman coach. They have a woman performance coach. Autumn Lockwood is her name and she, the first black female assistant coach to win the Super Bowl. So we love that staff.

• 12:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Crazy.

• 12:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  But anyway.

• 12:10Rayna Greenberg?

  So the Eagles, I don't know if people know this, in 2017 famously rejected going to the White House. They did not want to meet Donald Trump essentially.

• 12:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, yeah, I love that narrative. There was, I feel like it's

• 12:22Rayna Greenberg?

  What, you say narrative is not true?

• 12:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, it's like enough of them didn't want to go. And then he got to say he uninvited them, I think.

• 12:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh.

• 12:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  They didn't want to go.

• 12:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 12:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not, the team didn't want to go. And then, so he was like, they're not invited anymore.

• 12:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I quit. I quit. You can't quit. You're fired.

• 12:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  You cancel your Super Bowl party because no one RSVPs. You're like, it's actually canceled. I can't, I can't have it anyway. You can't come.

• 12:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Nothing made me laugh harder than Travis Kelce's Super Bowl outfits. Walking in, I'm like looking at it right now. He is in a burnt orange pimp suit.

• 13:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ron Burgundy.

• 13:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it is completely insane. The jacket comes down to his knees. He's wearing penny loafers.

• 13:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  A penny loaf.

• 13:08Rayna Greenberg?

  It looks so stupid, but you're like, okay, if he wins, sure.

• 13:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a victory outfit.

• 13:14Rayna Greenberg?

  It is, but then he changed and he had to walk out of the stadium and like, you think he would have brought like a backup outfit or something? And he was like, nah, I mean, he, did you get a good look at the outfit?

• 13:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 13:26Rayna Greenberg?

  And so you guys should watch YouTube. It is a sequin blouse.

• 13:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, I did not realize it was shiny like that.

• 13:31Rayna Greenberg?

  A shiny sequin blouse.

• 13:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is Studio 54 vibes over here.

• 13:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it is shiny sequin outfit.

• 13:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Disco ball. That is a celebration outfit and Kate Kennedy, who we love, she posted some funny commentary about the Super Bowl. There was a picture of him coming out of the locker room, wearing that like post game, looking all sad. And she goes, I too can relate to being sad in a going out top. Like I felt that in my soul. Like, how many times have we been all dressed up and like sad?

• 13:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Crying in the bathroom.

• 13:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like leaving the club, like in tears.

• 14:00Rayna Greenberg?

  You're going out top.

• 14:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I told you guys Eagles are going to win. And any of you guys who said the Chiefs are going to win can suck my dick and I knew it.

• 14:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Like that sandwich shop that I picked up those sandwiches from in the morning.

• 14:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I will not name names because it's one person that works there.

• 14:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Basically.

• 14:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I went and picked up sandwiches and the guy was like, can I help you out to your car? And I was like, that would be great. And I was like, you guys are so busy. Are you excited for the Super Bowl? And he was like, yeah, but that, he was like, the Chiefs are going to win. And the Eagles didn't go, they didn't go to the White House and they disrespected Donald Trump. They're going to fucking lose this time. I mean, he was so in my face about this. I was like, I have never regretted allowing a man to just help me with a sandwich tray so much in my life.

• 14:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  So crazy.

• 14:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Have you, are you lacking people to speak to? You have to talk to a customer like this? Like. I should not be picking up an Italian hoagie and have to talk to you about your political beliefs.

• 14:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't talk about my political beliefs enough and I'm not doing it with strangers like that. Cause it's like, it's what are, we don't know where you stand. You're a stranger. I'm going to have this weird interaction with you. Also like, yeah, he works there. You're a customer.

• 15:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 15:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you would already paid. I was like, I would have thrown those subs. After your party, there was like a tray left of them. Cause I was like, I'm not eating those mega subs. And so I was like, I'm going to go throw them like at the window and just write, go birds and like blood.

• 15:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley gets arrested.

• 15:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  It'd be worth it.

• 15:20Rayna Greenberg?

  It was a, it is a shocking thing for me in general, like in Ubers and things like that. When like people will share their political beliefs with you. Cause I'm just like, don't you have people to talk to during the day? Like, I don't need to.

• 15:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Clearly not.

• 15:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I don't need to speak to you about this.

• 15:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  So this is, we're going to talk a little bit about the app time, but you know, we did want to talk about this whole Donald Trump being cheered. Taylor Swift being booed thing. They didn't show Donald Trump a lot, a lot, which I appreciated. They, I think they did it during the national anthem on purpose. And that's the only time I saw him. I mean, again, I guess I watched, I did watch most of the game. My eyes weren't glued to the TV the entire time. We were at a party, you know, and it was just like going my way. So, you know, I did feel like I didn't have to be as locked in, but they showed him during the national anthem. And you know, my feeling is that I'm sure a lot of people in that stadium wanted to boo him, but I don't think you're going to boo during the national anthem. I think that people who wanted to cheer for him, cheered for him in that moment. And people who wanted to boo, weren't going to feel comfortable booing during our national anthem.

• 16:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I think you kept it in the box. Like, I don't even know if I, it's just during the, it's just like the, the timing. I almost feel like that's when they decided to show him.

• 16:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, interesting.

• 16:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because of that. And I mean, Taylor Swift, I, I think she represents the Chiefs. And I think like I, in like the most Philly fan way, I can see a world in which she gets booed because of that. Like if people want to take this narrative that it's like between her and Trump and they hate women and they love him, that's fine. I'm not refuting it. I just think, I understand why Philly fans boo Taylor Swift. I mean, she also was notoriously previously an Eagles fan. She represents the Chiefs and she's the most famous wag of the most famous player on the team. Second most famous player, whatever you guys think. And so to me, I'm like, I'm not condoning it. I would never boo Taylor Swift, but don't you, to me, I'm like, well,

• 17:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  she's a chee- she's like a symbol of the Chiefs.

• 17:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I just took it as Donald Trump.

• 17:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  You di- oh, you did?

• 17:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I think it's the South. I think it's a heavily male crowd. I think it's-

• 17:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, and people do like to hate on her in terms of football.

• 17:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I think he really encourages it. I think your average football fan also just kinda doesn't like the hype around her in general and just like how much attention she's gotten at these games. I could not care less I'm wearing a Taylor Swift sweater.

• 17:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 17:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I think it's just weird as an adult to boo another adult. It's like crazy. I also would not boo the president. I would not like be in a stadium with the president right there and be booing out loud. I would not-

• 17:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I wouldn't do it to the National Anthem, but I would, I would.

• 17:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, in public like that, like I think it starts fights with people. It would scare me.

• 17:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's fair.

• 17:54Rayna Greenberg?

  To like do something like that. I just, you don't need to do it.

• 17:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I, I, of course I don't condone people booing her. It just is like, you know, Philly fans famously booed Santa Claus. I don't know. Like, I, I'm not blaming it on Philly fans. I think Chiefs fans don't like her too. You know, like so certainly MAGA people don't like her. It just was like, I'm wondering what the breakdown would have been.

• 18:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 18:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I also, again, like I can't stress enough, I just don't think people who felt like they wanted to boo the, the president were gonna do it at that moment. But yeah, I was just like, why is she getting booed? I, I hated it. I hated to see it. But I'm also like, well, you know, Philly fans are gonna, I don't know. And I don't wanna blame them either, cuz those are my people.

• 18:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Philly fans are gonna Philly though. If anybody's gonna boo somebody.

• 18:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  But there's a way, it, I don't know. It's like, I wanna, like, if there was like the alternative of this really symbolic Eagles superstar girlfriend with the Chiefs boo it, like, is it all kinda could have been in good fun, but it didn't feel that way cuz we're comparing it to Trump and it gets political. You know what I mean?

• 18:55Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, nobody, and I know Trump has aligned himself with Brittany Mahomes and vice versa, but like, nobody booed her.

• 19:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 19:02Rayna Greenberg?

  So-

• 19:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, did they? I didn't even see her.

• 19:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think I actually saw her.

• 19:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 19:07Rayna Greenberg?

  But-

• 19:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's just, I hate it for Taylor Swift. She's like, come on. I didn't, this sucks. It's so lame. Like, I like her face. She kinda brushed it off. Like, it just, it like, it did, it felt like cringe, like punch in the gut moment for me. I just didn't, I hated to see it.

• 19:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, a whole stadium doing it. That was gross. And she's like, um, I've sold this stadium out like three times, so keep booing.

• 19:29Rayna Greenberg?

  All right, you want to talk about the halftime show?

• 19:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I do.

• 19:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, you want to go first? You want me to go first?

• 19:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  What take are you doing?

• 19:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Um.

• 19:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Fashion?

• 19:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Huh?

• 19:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Fashion?

• 19:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, I'm gonna do an overall take.

• 19:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 19:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that there, the internet is really divided and I think it depends on how far you've dove into the meaning of this halftime show, right? Cause it was, it was highly symbolic and political. And if you understand the beef between Kendrick Lamar and Drake, if you do not understand any of those things, if you've not like been an internet warrior like I have been like, what is the meaning of all these things and like Samuel L. Jackson being there and Serena Williams, I think you're like, this was not the correct performer for the Super Bowl because he does not have a catalog like other people have in the past. So you're talking Rihanna, Beyonce, everybody's up at their seats singing it, they know it. He just doesn't have like a performance history like those people. And so I think your average person doesn't know a lot of these songs, so it's less fun. To me, it was a Grammy performance, not a Super Bowl performance.

• 20:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 20:26Rayna Greenberg?

  So that's my take, but I actually overall, it was an enjoyable performance. I think he's a good performer. I didn't hate the dancers, I didn't hate the costumes, I loved the bell bottoms.

• 20:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you know there were Celine?

• 20:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I did.

• 20:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  His bootcut jeans.

• 20:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I thought there were Balenciaga.

• 20:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, I thought there was Celine.

• 20:42Rayna Greenberg?

  But Levi's 501s are, they're a good. They might be Celine. I've heard conflicted.

• 20:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bootcut jeans back for boys.

• 20:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, that was crazy.

• 20:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's his platform.

• 20:52Rayna Greenberg?

  So that's, that's my stance overall. It wasn't for me, I'm like used to being up out of my seat, so excited and singing. It's, I'm not like a Kendrick fan like that, I don't know his music like that.

• 21:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 21:02Rayna Greenberg?

  That's my stance.

• 21:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, I was like, everybody in the room, I was like, start singing, anybody, sing one lyric until we get to A minor, like you guys don't know anything.

• 21:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't.

• 21:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, like, and I feel like that was probably the vibe in a lot of living rooms in America, but.

• 21:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 21:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, I will say, given the state of the country right now, where we have a president and an administration who are being so brazenly and unapologetically racist.

• 21:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, we've never seen, I am glad we had a halftime show where the performers were not white, where a message was sent, there is a black Uncle Sam and like his commentary as well, the mention of the revolution, all while the president was there was powerful. Like Kendrick Lamar always has something to say and he's not afraid to say it. And I'm glad that he was the performer as opposed to something that didn't send a message during this time during this Super Bowl while the president was there. I mean, he took shots at Drake. He's obsessed with Drake. No one's more obsessed with Drake.

• 22:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I'm just like, are we done with this? How are we gonna write another album?

• 22:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's just like, it's been a year. Like, if you're still Team Kendrick, you're like, he buried him. That's fine. Good for you. I just, for me, I'm like, alright, he's still going. His full-time job is hating Drake.

• 22:17Rayna Greenberg?

  He's gotta go to therapy and he's gotta learn, talk to Mel Robbins and learn how to let it go.

• 22:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Men will do anything besides go to therapy. But as the perfor- like, the performances itself, does it really matter what I think or what anyone thinks about the performance? Because the symbolism and the message was there and I really do appreciate it. I don't think it was that hype, but I just don't think he's the best performer. You mentioned his catalog. I feel the same way. We've seen him in concert. He's just not that explosive or exciting to me. I respect his artistry. I respect that he has something to say. So does it matter what I thi- I don't know. I appreciated the moment in time that it was done. I liked having SZA. I love the Serena thing. And people are talking about Serena, her Crip walk cameo in relation to Drake, but it also is in relation to her Crip walking at Wimbledon in 2012 and being critiqued for that. And so she also did it a little

• 23:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  differently. She went on a full send on the Crip walk and she posted on Twitter. She was like, I never would have done that at Wimbledon. I would have gotten fined. Like, I liked that whole moment. But, you know, it's just kind of like, so it wasn't that hype, but it was perfectly timed and I appreciate the message. You know, Drake shots aside, I'm not, I just don't like Kendrick that much, but I really do respect the message that was sent. And it was funny because I was talking to somebody and they were like, well, the message of the, of the Super Bowl and all this was gonna be about ending hate. He should have brought Drake out. Unite the nation.

• 23:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it would have been the best moment of my life. I would have died.

• 23:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Would have been incredible, but I will also say this that like, I didn't need it because we had the Beyonce Bowl. That was six weeks ago. The Beyonce Bowl was the best halftime show, Super Bowls included, to ever happen. That is my strong opinion. Like what we saw on Christmas Day, I thought was better than any halftime show I've ever seen.

• 23:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Her previous halftime shows?

• 23:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, the Beyonce, the Christmas Day.

• 24:02Rayna Greenberg?

  She's done the Super Bowl, I'm saying, you thought it was better.

• 24:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Better. I thought that was the best thing I'd ever seen. I mean, I watched it on Netflix weekly.

• 24:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I cry every time I watch it.

• 24:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was the greatest thing. I like, I mean, I loved her Super Bowl performances, like everything she does. But all I'm saying is we just had this incredible halftime show.

• 24:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank God for her.

• 24:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And so I'm fulfilled. I'm all set. That was, you know, not too long ago. And so I just feel like we just had that. We had Kendrick doing this with all the symbolism and the messaging. Like, I feel great about it.

• 24:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  But yeah, like I was watching it just like, eh.

• 24:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 24:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, that wasn't what was important to me. Like, you know, the flag and the dancers and it was, I'm, I'm glad it was him when it comes down to it. And because not everybody would have had the balls to kind of do what he did.

• 24:56Rayna Greenberg?

  No. And I, I just, I think to really understand this, it's funny because I said to Tessa, I was like, people hated it. She was like, not on my corner. To the internet, go on TikTok. And if you really get involved in the messaging, you've got to like read an article about it to understand it. In the moment, I'm half drunk, I'm watching a football game and I'm trying to like march around to Rihanna.

• 25:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 25:12Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, but it was deeply symbolic if you actually like want to get into it. So.

• 25:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 25:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. So tons of celebrities came to the Super Bowl. Like I said, I didn't really know how many people were like Eagles fans. But this is kind of tangential to a dating topic that I wanted to bring up too. But Paige DeSorbo, Craig Conover, recent breakup, they were both at the Super Bowl with like different people. I saw Paige in a photo with like Kaitlyn Bristow and the girls from Chicks in the Office, who we love. And I thought this was interesting. So he was on Watch What Happens Live recently. And I wanted to just get your take on like what he said. So to give you the full scope, I guess they broke up in November. She, right before. Years goes on our podcast and says we broke up. It was mutual. Was very, pretty kind about it, I thought, but kind of just mum on the details. And then he last week, she's been accused, by the way, of cheating on him. He has not publicly responded. So he goes on Washington Happens Live this week.

• 26:02Rayna Greenberg?

  And he's being asked about it and he very, very like, like didn't mince words was like, she went on her podcast and lied. This is not a mutual breakup. I'm not going to defend her for cheating on me or not cheating on me. I got broken up with. I want nothing to do with this. Leave me out of it. And I was wondering your take on what you would do. Do you think she quote unquote lied? What would, what would you do if you were in this situation, if you're him? How do you feel about the situation?

• 26:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think every breakup is so different in the relationship that you have towards the end and the level of discussing breaking up. Like, I don't, I mean, do you think after this many years, like, it was out of the blue? No. Was Paige wanting to break up with him for a long time and he was just begging her not to and trying to make it work? And then she finally just had to cut the cord and it was a really upsetting experience for him. Like, I don't know all the ins and outs. I mean, we obviously know Paige, but we don't know her like that. I haven't talked to her about her breakup. But if you are ending it amicably, do you discuss it of how it's going to be spoken about on your podcast?

• 27:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, are you saying it was mutual because you want to soften the blow? You don't want to go on this huge show and say, I dumped him? Like, I don't, I don't know. Like, if I was ending a long-term relationship with someone I really still cared about a lot, I would probably be like, what would make you feel comfortable while I tell millions of people this?

• 27:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 27:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't, you know, it seems like he took it as like, no, she dumped me and I hate that. And I am pissed that she's saying it was mutual because it wasn't. But is she over here like just trying to? Soften the blow and not make him look like a bitch?

• 27:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I mean, to me, it's just a gracious way to speak to somebody, speak about somebody.

• 27:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 27:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Like to millions of people. I mean, what's the alternative? You get on there and you're like, I broke up with him. I left him.

• 28:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 28:02Rayna Greenberg?

  And they've only really had one storyline on Southern Charm and Summer House between the two of them, which is like, when's this person going to move to this city? And I think they have fundamental differences and who wants to live where. And to me, that is mutual. We mutually do not want to live in the same place.

• 28:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally agree. I mean, I think honesty is the best when you're a person who is being honest on your podcast. And there is someone out there who could contradict your story. Like, I'm thinking of a time recently where a woman said she broke up with a man and it was Dale Moss and his ex, Gaily.

• 28:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh huh.

• 28:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  They broke up. Dale, if you guys don't know Dale, I mean, he was on this podcast forever ago. We could discover Dale. And he was on The Bachelor, Bachelorette. And he won essentially and got engaged to Claire Crowley, whatever. But he was dating this woman and she went on our podcast and like very gently just said things that probably were hurtful for him or anyone who cares about him to hear. Like, I just knew something wasn't there. And I think the quote that I read was, she thought to herself, like, if we were to break up, how would that make me feel? You know, it wouldn't like crush me and I knew that something wasn't right. Like, she owned it. And I don't know if that was discussed between the two of them. We could have Dale on, ask him. But I don't know. I never know. Like, I guess you think you're doing right by the person by saying it was mutual,

• 29:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  but maybe you are doing them a disservice because that's not their truth.

• 29:25Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, it's interesting because he also has a platform and he's welcome to go use it. And I just think like, if it was me, what would I want? And I've broken up with people over the seven years that we've had this podcast. I've ended relationships. I sugarcoat that shit. I'm not going to go on this podcast and bury them publicly to hundreds of thousands of people and really say what I think about them when at the end of it, they were a nice person. They treated me well. It ended for various reasons, but I'm not, I don't need to discuss that publicly. I'd rather just say some kind words and move along. And she said, he's a great person. Whoever ends up with him is really lucky and to me, that's not a lie. But you're right, every person is different, like what they want you to say. For him, though, I do understand him saying like, well, she did leave me and I don't need to make public statements defending her.

• 30:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally. That's his absolutely, like, I respect his decision to do that. But I also just wanted to be so clear that I'm not even saying Paige wasn't truthful. Like, like you said, like, I, she could have been like, this felt mutual in terms of like, our futures weren't aligning. So maybe I finally pulled the plug. Maybe we were like on life support for a while and I'm the one that did it. But it's still like, I'm not wrong in feeling that it's mutual. The ending of this partnership.

• 30:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, and sometimes you do to be the one to end it. He was, he was saying, I'll watch what happens live, like, I don't like this whole stance of like, love doesn't conquer all, love does conquer all. And I was like, oh, no.

• 30:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Disagree.

• 30:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Disagree.

• 30:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, they like, weren't aligned.

• 30:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 30:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, so it's just weird. I'm like, I'm not, I can't, I can't pick a side here. I'm just like, they both are feeling what they're feeling.

• 30:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I guess I, I struggle with it being called a lie. Cause I'm like, to me, that was just like a gracious thing to do for somebody that you were with for a long time and not go on a public platform and be like, I dumped his ass.

• 31:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. And some people feel uncomfortable doing that. They feel like they don't want to sound like that, like, oh, I'm trying to be like a bad bitch. And like, I dumped, yeah, I don't know, whatever.

• 31:15Rayna Greenberg?

  So I was excited to unpack it with you. I find it interesting.

• 31:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, let's talk about our partners and we will get back into it.

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• 34:56Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 35:54Rayna Greenberg?

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• 36:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I wanted to put together our own unqualified cabinet because there is no cabinet more unqualified than the current one. It goes without saying, I mean, there's probably more that have been confirmed by this time errors. It's just like, I can't, I'm laughing so I don't cry. A lot of pushback on a lot of the cabinet picks and a lot of people that are truly not qualified for these highest positions in the government. So we were like, let's put together our own. And, you know, the difference of ours is some of the people we're choosing are probably actually good people. All of them are good people.

• 36:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 36:42Rayna Greenberg?

  And I, so I have some definitive picks and then I have a couple that I wanted to like Democratic vote on. And you, so you divided these up and you gave me a bunch of stuff, I don't know what it is. So I had to Google what all these are.

• 36:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I tried, I tried to take some like of the ones, like I tried to take some of the less excited ones. I tried to be diplomatic about it, but we'll maybe, you know.

• 37:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Do you want to kick it off?

• 37:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I'm going to kick it off with the Department of Agriculture.

• 37:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 37:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think that my cabinet pick to run the Department of Agriculture, Martha Stewart. She can just run it like her garden agriculture.

• 37:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 37:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's a queen. And then co-chair, Snoop Dogg, also good at agriculture.

• 37:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Smoking weed. Wait, I love this pick and I wrote down Martha Stewart because I was going to try to slot her into something and I don't think I came up with anything.

• 37:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, there we go.

• 37:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, Department of the Interior, I don't really know what they do, but you said I like interior design. I picked Tim Gunn.

• 37:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 37:34Rayna Greenberg?

  And he's in fashion and I think he would just walk around going, makeup work. And I think that'd be funny in cabinet meetings.

• 37:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  So yeah, so exactly. Like I think Rain and I are acting like the president himself. You know, like the president probably thinks the Department of Interior does mean design. So that's why I was just like, let's, you like interior design, you got this one.

• 37:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 37:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Department of Defense, Darius Slay Jr.

• 37:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Slay, Slay Baba.

• 37:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  One of the best defensive players on the winning world champion Philadelphia Eagles, Slay Jr., Department of Defense.

• 38:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, Department of Justice, I have two, we're gonna, Judge Judy.

• 38:15Rayna Greenberg?

  With a backup of L. Woods. Cause I also. I also have fictional picks in here.

• 38:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  L. Woods.

• 38:23Rayna Greenberg?

  L. Woods.

• 38:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent. In L. we trust.

• 38:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Like it's hard?

• 38:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 38:28Rayna Greenberg?

  It's hard.

• 38:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I. Literally, that's all the picks right now are like, what, like it's hard?

• 38:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so L. Woods, Department of Justice.

• 38:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Department of Education, I'm going Janelle James from Abbott Elementary. You know, she's the school principal on the show, she's just acting, and so I think she's qualified for that reason. She plays a great principal on a TV show.

• 38:50Rayna Greenberg?

  That's how unserious these cabinet picks are.

• 38:54Rayna Greenberg?

  She plays one on TV.

• 38:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Actually, listen, I'm glad that you did that, because I'm gonna do one like that, too. Department of Veteran Affairs, responsible for providing services and support to military veterans and families. Miles Teller.

• 39:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Played a pilot in the military.

• 39:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent, he was in Top Gun.

• 39:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Miles Teller.

• 39:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God. Glenn, Glenn Powell is his co-chair. Okay, Tom Cruise. Okay, Department of Energy, obviously Beyonce. She has a song called Energy, she's gonna run the department with that same energy.

• 39:29Rayna Greenberg?

  She, who has more energy?

• 39:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly, so easy, whole ass song called Energy, she's got this.

• 39:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, Department of Labor, so what they do, they policies and programs that protect workers, promote fair wages. I picked Taylor Swift.

• 39:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 39:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Because she's well-known for treating her team really well, paying really well, great bonuses, fair working practice.

• 39:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 39:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Procedures, fair.

• 39:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Fair working conditions?

• 39:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Fair working conditions.

• 39:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love it.

• 39:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 39:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Department of Health and Human Services, I'm gonna stick with RFK, because he really seems like he knows what he's doing.

• 40:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you imagine? No, I'm bringing Dr. Fauci back. I took this one seriously. Dr. Fauci is coming back. I miss him so much.

• 40:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Department of State handling the United States Foreign Affairs and Diplomacy, which is not sounding like Department of the State. But, okay. I picked The Rock, and here's why. He is beloved worldwide. And I just, I think that like, who's gonna say no to The Rock? Like, he's so big, but he's also friendly. And I've like, only heard really nice things about him and like, working for him.

• 40:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I also chose The Rock and Dave Batista for the Department of Homeland Security, because these are the nation's bouncers, right? So, I just thought, they would be great to double team. We could throw my brother in the mix.

• 40:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I did have a backup for Department of State, and it was Sabrina Carpenter. And because I just don't think anybody can be mean to her. She's this little pixie. And if you are, she's just gonna like, write a song about you, like akin to like, how's my pussy taste?

• 40:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, yeah.

• 40:58Rayna Greenberg?

  So, I'll seed The Rock to you.

• 40:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  The Rock to Homeland Security? Okay. What's your next one?

• 41:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Department of Commerce.

• 41:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 41:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Promoting economic growth, job creation, fair trade. I have two. Barbara Corcoran.

• 41:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love it. Love Barbara Corcoran.

• 41:11Rayna Greenberg?

  And Cher from Clueless.

• 41:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 41:13Rayna Greenberg?

  And here's why. Because everything is just a jumping off point for negotiations.

• 41:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, and she loves to shop.

• 41:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Also that.

• 41:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Professional shopper.

• 41:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh my God, I didn't even think of that.

• 41:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Again, just a fictional character.

• 41:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 41:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  And that's how I'm serious.

• 41:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, but who do you, who do you pick? Barbara or Cher?

• 41:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cher.

• 41:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 41:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Always. Okay. Department of Housing and Urban Development. The Property Brothers.

• 41:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Not Chip and Joanna.

• 41:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Any of those people are fine. Anyone on HGTV, they've got it.

• 41:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Have you ever watched The Property Brothers? It's so funny.

• 41:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I used to watch it a little bit. And then Sparkle Eyes, who was my fiancee, if you're new around here, saw one the other day at work. He came in.

• 41:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, really?

• 41:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 41:56Rayna Greenberg?

  That's crazy.

• 41:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's so sexy.

• 41:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, okay. My last one is the Department of Treasury, US government finances, including printing money, collecting taxes, overseeing the economy. I have two, and I don't really have a lot of reasoning for this. Larry David.

• 42:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love it.

• 42:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause I just want to be in a meeting with him.

• 42:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I like Larry for that.

• 42:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I think.

• 42:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. Yeah, it's like, I don't know what, I don't know what else to say, but it sounds like a perfect pick.

• 42:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I would put him anywhere. He's so curmudgeonly. I didn't think he'd be like, no, no, what's that for? And then Cardi B.

• 42:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 42:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I could just see her like being the head of the treasury.

• 42:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  She loves money.

• 42:26Rayna Greenberg?

  She loves money.

• 42:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 42:27Rayna Greenberg?

  So I just think that'd be like a fun, spicy.

• 42:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  She has a song called Money.

• 42:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 42:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Uh, I feel like I'm, I'm ending on not a really strong one, but I'm going to do Department of Transportation. In my dream world, Pete comes back, but if not, let's just go Lewis Hamilton. He's a great driver.

• 42:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 42:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Probably the world's best driver. Lewis Hamilton, Formula One driver, Department of Transportation.

• 42:47Rayna Greenberg?

  He drives good.

• 42:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's great in transportation.

• 42:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Drives good. I think he could do it.

• 42:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  And that is our unqualified cabinet from Girls Gotta Eat.

• 42:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I loved this.

• 42:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was fun.

• 42:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. My favorite of yours was, um, the fictional principal.

• 42:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Um, well, that leads me right into my recs.

• 43:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 43:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I just have a few. I just want to say what I've been watching. I started The English Teacher, which is another school show. I love Abbott Elementary. Those are elementary school kids. This is high school. And this came out in, in 24, so it's not new. I, I remember it came out, and I don't know, I feel like people mostly liked it, but maybe I saw some mixed reviews. And Brian Jordan Alvarez is the writer and the lead actor. And I just really like it. I'm really enjoying it. I, there were a couple of episodes I didn't love as much, but I overall really enjoyed it and really recommend it.

• 43:33Rayna Greenberg?

  What's about?

• 43:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Uh, like, high school. He's a teacher. He's an English teacher.

• 43:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Is it a comedy or a thriller?

• 43:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's a comedy. Sorry. Total comedy, like, great cast. Um, you know, short episodes. It's, it's, I'm sorry, I didn't say that before. I just compare it to Abbott Elementary because it's just like a comedy, a little spicier.

• 43:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 43:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause they're dealing with high school students and like the way the students interact and all these things. I just, you know, I love high school, high school shows.

• 43:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 43:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  And the menu. So this is this fucked up thriller from 2022. It's comedic, I guess. It's super dark.

• 44:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Satire.

• 44:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Satire, yeah. And it is basically all the. These privileged people go to this fancy dining experience and things take a turn. I think it's like The Bear meets White Lotus with murder. And Anya Taylor Joy stars in it, Ralph Fiennes. And our agent told me about it. He was like, I just think you would like this. I think you and Reina would like it.

• 44:23Rayna Greenberg?

  It was nominated for all these awards. It's a big movie.

• 44:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you said you feel like it. I just, I don't think it's going to be too dark. It's not too slashery.

• 44:31Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what I don't like, slashery.

• 44:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're gonna be fine. I think you're really gonna like it. I think you're really gonna like the like foodie aspect of it.

• 44:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Sort of a satirical take on fine dining.

• 44:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and like the interactions and kind of like hierarchy of like kitchen and diners and chef and I don't know, making fun of like foodies a little bit.

• 44:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 44:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, and then Severance, which I'll let you talk about, but I started it and I'm liking it. And last night I watched The Bachelor for the first time this season.

• 44:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 45:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  This man is too fine for this show. That, I like, there has never been a bachelor that looks and acts like him. He's too sexy.

• 45:09Rayna Greenberg?

  He's very sexy.

• 45:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's so sexy. And I'm not talking, like, he's, I'm not even bringing this about race. He's the second black bachelor ever, but like, black, white, Indian, Asian, whatever. There's just a vibe that's so smooth and sexy, kind of like Playboy. And like, we just haven't seen it. Do you agree, Tessa? He's just different.

• 45:29Speaker 02

  Oh, he's the hottest bachelor, I think, but I don't know. I like, it does a change it from Joey last season. He was like cutesy and like, that's why he was attractive. Then you have Grant. It's like, oh, I don't like, I almost like don't trust him because he's too charming.

• 45:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's like a Playboy. Like, he gives that vibe. You're like, this is every guy that ruined my life in my twenties, you know? But I, like, it just feels wrong.

• 45:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Are you enjoying it, though? Because we always say people should be spicier on the show.

• 45:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm into it. Yeah, I'm into it. This is the first time my fiance has ever watched an episode of The Bachelor. Last night was his first foray into it. He was like, he eventually got into it, but he was like, wow, he really just like kisses everybody. I'm like, yeah, that's the show. And then one more thing I will say, we're watching it and Hannah Berger comes on the screen.

• 46:12Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 46:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's on it?

• 46:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I saw her post about it.

• 46:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Date. This is very funny. It's very unqualified cabinet. She did like a finance date. And like they were basically, it was, you know, they're not really doing finance, but he's a finance guy. So they do this whole finance segment. They had to collect these like grant bucks and to get time with him. And Hannah comes in, she's like, I'm just here because I like to wear a tie. Like, it was very funny. It was very like, exactly what we just talked about with the cabinet. So.

• 46:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I saw her post about that. Okay. I was wondering.

• 46:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was weird jump scare. Like your friend is on the screen. It was like Hannah's on The Bachelor. Anyway.

• 46:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I forget how famous she is.

• 46:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I know. Me too.

• 46:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Because she's just like Hannah. But so it's interesting to say that somebody's only seen one episode of The Bachelor because ABC announced that they put the filming of The Bachelorette on hold. It typically is released in June and they're being a little mum about the reasons. And so I started like looking up like all seasons of The Bachelorette and just kind of thinking to myself like, why is this put on hold? I mean, you and I have talked a lot about how I just think this format in general is antiquated. I think, you know, this show, we're, the last season of The Bachelorette was 21 seasons. And I just think that like, it was the original dating show and we've moved on to just two kind of buckets now where we have like Too Hot to Handle and Love Island. People that just act like crazy and they're so sexy. And then you have like Love is Blind and The Ultimatum. And people that like really want to date and be intentional and be with their partners.

• 47:32Rayna Greenberg?

  And this sort of feels like this style has like fallen off. And I was trying to think like, when was the last time I even enjoyed a season of The Bachelorette? Like, I don't mind seeing men in a scenario where they're like dating a bunch of women, but like this feels unfair, kind of. Like, I remember watching like Gabby and Rachel together and like how terrible it was for Rachel because all the men went with Gabby. And then Katie Thurston's season was like so brutal. And I don't really like watching women be treated like that.

• 47:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I mean, I agree with you in the format. I think there's also a theory that like Love Island just completely upstaged it completely and they would come out around the same time. And they're like, we can't even compete anymore. And like, but to your point, that's just the format people prefer now. I think the format is dated and women don't want to do it. Like, who turned it down? Maria and then Daisy and then Jen was just traumatized. What, has Jen come out and said, if I would have looked at these men's social media prior? Prior to going on, I wouldn't have gone on like the only person in recent years I can think of that has succeeded is Charity. She's still with Doten. But yeah, Rachel, Gabby has come out since, you know, like she's like, I'm done with men.

• 48:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And Charity, by the way, was two seasons ago. So who knows how long that relationship will last. And yes, to your point about the quality of men that apply for this show, I don't want to be so like, I don't want to sexualize this completely, but like, I don't know, it just feels like the men that apply for this. I'm like, what's going on here?

• 48:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I think the Bachelorette is feels broken and they're like, we just let's, let's fix this before we come back. Cause like, these women are not having a great experience.

• 49:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 49:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  And like, I like that for that reason. Also, is it considered DEI? Is it illegal to do it now?

• 49:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 49:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, they can just go back to their original format of seasons 15 through one with

• 49:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  With all white men.

• 49:19Rayna Greenberg?

  No, all white men.

• 49:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you imagine ABC was like, whoa, whoa, Bachelorette, that's feeling DEI.

• 49:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Yikes.

• 49:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Get rid of it.

• 49:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Yep.

• 49:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I'm kidding. That's a sad, sad reality, but.

• 49:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I don't, it's not like a fun watch to me. I think these guys are kind of cringe. These women just, I don't like the way that they're treated. I don't know. It's just not for me. I mean, the last great season, Claire Crowley, there will never be another like it. I mean, watching that, I mean, it saved, it saved us in our souls.

• 49:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it was during COVID. If you guys don't know, I mean, Claire Crowley was the Bachelorette. She was the oldest Bachelorette in history. She's younger than I am now.

• 49:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Wasn't she like 38?

• 49:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I think she was like 38. Yeah. And she just chose Dale and they left together. They had to bring in a new Bachelorette. If you guys haven't seen, if you don't even care about this show, go back and watch those, what, eight episodes, six episodes?

• 50:08Rayna Greenberg?

  She refused to film, keep filming.

• 50:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then all she would do on other dates with guys was be like, what did Dale say about me?

• 50:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Literally every day, she's like, have you guys talked to Dale? Have you guys been talking to Dale?

• 50:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like she would literally just like think of reasons to bring him up. Like somebody would be like, so I grew up with my family and she'd be like, Dale has a family. No, like, and then Chris Harrison was like, so Dale, you had to propose. He was like, what? Dale was like, I'm not trying to do that.

• 50:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, nothing was better than this couple. It was the best TV ever. Anyway, I think I'm gonna, I think I like this season enough to keep seeing it through. I really like watching it with the person you're dating. I like, I haven't really enjoyed watching it in a long time and I like watching it with him because I like his takes.

• 50:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Dating shows with men and explaining them to men is the best.

• 51:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  And like, I got him kind of hooked because I was like, my brother and Steph watch it. He was like, oh, okay, I'll give it a try. You know, so it's just, it's, I'm having a different experience. I am like seeing it through his eyes and like all the craziness and.

• 51:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Nothing better than watching a dating show with a man and explaining it to him. Live three quick recs and then we'll wrap up. Severance, I loved. I hesitate to recommend it to people because it is very specific. It is sort of like dystopian society, sci-fi. And what it's about is Severance is these people that live these lives outside. They go to work and inside the building, their outside life is erased. And then vice versa, when they go outside, their work life is erased. So they don't know what they do in the building when they leave the building, which is so interesting. It's a slow show. It's very bizarre, the way it's filmed, but it's just unlike anything I'd ever seen. It is, I've always said, the greatest season finale of any show I've ever watched. The way that they like wrap up a bunch of the storylines, leave cliffhangers. And I think we are four episodes into season two now.

• 51:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  It took years, right? For season two?

• 51:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Years.

• 52:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I just started watching season one, by the way, but.

• 52:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I had to watch a recap because I like couldn't even remember it. It was so long ago, but I love it. It's a great show and I love, I always get his name wrong. I always want to say Adam Driver.

• 52:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 52:09Rayna Greenberg?

  But foot shorter.

• 52:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 52:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Adam Scott, big Parks and Rec fan. And just two books I'm reading, Just Kids, which is about Patti Smith. It is, she's a musical artist. It's about New York in the seventies. People really love it if you're looking for like a memoir. It's just like drugs and music in New York in the seventies. And I've seen, people just love his books, very, very popular book. And then the Wayward Pines series, this is unlike.

• 52:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God, Raina. You've been bringing this up to anyone.

• 52:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Anybody will listen. I love it.

• 52:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Have you found any community yet?

• 52:40Rayna Greenberg?

  No, not one person. Well, I found it through this girl who gives book racks and I love her Instagram. It's a three series book about this man. He is a federal agent. He wakes up. Basically, he's had this terrible accident. He wakes up, he doesn't know where he is or who he is, where he's from. He's lost all memory and then he's trying to sort of piece together how he got here and where he is. And you're really not sure if it's sci fi or dystopian society or it's just like people fucking with him. And it's a three part series and I absolutely love it. I just, I flew through it. It was great during the weeks of the fires where you and I like really couldn't leave the house and I wanted to just kind of disassociate a little bit. So I really enjoyed that. And weird pine series, you guys, three books. You just blow right through it.

• 53:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  And DM Raina. She needs people to talk to.

• 53:23Rayna Greenberg?

  This girl for book racks. Her name is Brady Lockerby, B R A D Y L O C K E R B Y on Instagram. I like her racks a lot. I don't tend to like people's book racks. They're just like say this book and they move on. I'm like, what is it about?

• 53:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 53:37Rayna Greenberg?

  So anyways, those are my racks.

• 53:38Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 54:05Rayna Greenberg?

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• 54:06Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 54:07Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 54:10Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 54:13Rayna Greenberg?

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• 54:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Get her a gift card VibesOnly.com, GirlsGottaEat.com, of course, where Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess, AshHess.com. My tour is on sale now. Rayna Greenberg on social media and subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

• 54:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good weekend, guys.

• 54:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.