Chiefs Respond to First Loss, Saquon’s Case for MVP and The Tyson/Paul Fight Was Cheeks | Ep 111

92%ers, we are back with another episode of New Heights presented by our friends at NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. Right now you can get NFL Sunday Ticket for just 89 dollars. Offer ends December 2, Terms and embargoes apply. In this episode, Jason and Travis discuss Mama Kelce’s small-screen debut, get Jason’s thoughts on his live performance and the Linc, and a tubular meat world record devolves into…well you’ll see. Sorry. We also get Travis thoughts on the Chief's first loss of the season and how they plan to bounce back next week. Jason also tells us if Coach Sirianni has earned some love from the Philly fans and if Saquon Barkley should be in the MVP discussion. Next, we look at the rest of Week 11 in the NFL including the Steelers proving that field goals still matter, which teams might be making some coaching changes soon, and the guys share their honest thoughts on the Jake Paul and Mike Tyson fight. Finally, we dip into the Heights Hotline for some calls about the official 92% greeting, when to put up the Christmas tree, and why Jason doesn’t do the dishes. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. . . Follow New Heights on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshow Support some great causes with “A Philly Special Christmas Party” here: https://phillyspecialchristmas.com/ Support the Show: NFL SUNDAY TICKET: Right now you can get the Thanksgiving sale price of NFL Sunday Ticket for just $89 when you sign up today https://youtube.com/NH. Offer ends December 2, Terms and embargoes apply. MOANA 2: This Thanksgiving, Moana and Maui are back on a new epic adventure. Get your tickets for the holiday movie event, Disney's Moana 2, in theaters everywhere, November 27th. Click here to get tickets now. https://www.fandango.com/moana-2-2024-235102/movie-overvie MINT MOBILE: To get this new customer offer and your new 3-month unlimited wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to https://mintmobile.com/newheights BURGER KING:To vote for the official Million Dollar Whopper visit: https://www.bk.com/campaigns/mdw FARMERS DOG: Get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food at https://TheFarmersDog.com/newheights https://thefarmersdog.com/newheights. Plus, you get FREE shipping! ALLSTATE: Yeah, checking first is smart. So, check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You’re in good hands with Allstate. This content is intended for audiences in the U. S. only. Savings vary. Terms apply. Allstate Fire and Casualty Insurance Company & affiliates. Northbrook, IL. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  It's said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recess. Take noise cancelling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show everything happens for a recess.

• 0:16Travis Kelce?

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• 0:19Speaker 02

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• 0:24Travis Kelce?

  That's true. Otherwise, you're just out there running cardio. Can't get open for a big play.

• 0:30Speaker 02

  But it's not just football. There's a lot of things you need to prevent before they start.

• 0:34Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, like in your mouth.

• 0:36Speaker 02

  My mouth specifically?

• 0:38Travis Kelce?

  I mean, probably yours too, but I'm talking everybody's mouth. There's bacteria in there that can lead to oral health problems like cavities, gingivitis.

• 0:49Speaker 02

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• 1:01Travis Kelce?

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• 1:08Speaker 02

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• 1:16Travis Kelce?

  Now that's the squad you want fighting for your mouth.

• 1:18Speaker 02

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• 1:26Travis Kelce?

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• 1:32Travis Kelce?

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• 1:43Travis Kelce?

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• 1:56Travis Kelce?

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• 2:14Travis Kelce?

  I'm about to throw up too. Dude, it is so bad.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  Get it out the screen. I don't want to watch it anymore.

• 2:22Travis Kelce?

  Can we just fast forward to the end?

• 2:23Speaker 02

  Get it out the screen.

• 2:29Travis Kelce?

  Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, a Wondery show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. That's right, you can still get NFL Sunday Ticket for the rest of the NFL regular season for just $89. How about that? Offer ends December 2nd. Terms and embargoes applied. Hey, we're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelce, my big brother Jason Kelce out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, Cincinnati Bearcat alums. How about that? How about those Bearcats, man? Fuck, we gotta fucking find a way to get a win, boys.

• 3:01Speaker 02

  Been a rough couple of weeks.

• 3:03Travis Kelce?

  Subscribe on YouTube, Wondery Plus, wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S. Jason, let the people know what we have coming up.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  We got a fantastic episode ready for you guys. We're going to start off on a somber note with the Chiefs' first loss of the season. Then we're gonna get into a much more uplifting note with the Eagles taking down the Commies. Who doesn't like to take down Commies?

• 3:24Travis Kelce?

  I think Commies.

• 3:25Speaker 02

  As well as the rest of the biggest storylines from across the NFL in Week 11. But before we get started, we're gonna start with a little bit of that new news. And this new news is something that Wyatt is gonna be happy to find out. New News is brought to you by Moana 2. That's right, Moana 2 is coming to theaters November 27th. I can't wait.

• 3:49Travis Kelce?

  It's exciting.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  Moana is fantastic. One of the things I really like about Moana is that it's like, I don't know, it feels like in a world where a lot of these stories just kinda get like remade, Moana was an original. I think the lead character is a powerful female that I really like. The music's great, the rock kills it, Mao is a fantastic character. But there's also not like, the bad guy ends up being the same as the good guy in the movie. I don't know what Moana 2 is about, but the first one was about really just like being good to the land and Mother Nature fighting back against, you know, really monocultures of coconuts, I think. Anyways.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, Moana two coming November 27th. Can't wait to see what this one's about. And if Taffiti is back to um, needs the heart. What was it? What was it? What was it missing again? The heart, something heart. God damn it. The heart of Taffiti.

• 4:51Travis Kelce?

  Nice. Yeah. Be good to the land.

• 4:53Speaker 02

  Anyways, Mama Kelce, new news. Mama Kelce acting debut.

• 4:57Travis Kelce?

  Oh.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 4:58Travis Kelce?

  Mama Donna.

• 5:00Speaker 02

  Mama Kelce is gonna make her acting debut next Saturday. That's right. Next Saturday, November 30th.

• 5:06Travis Kelce?

  What?

• 5:07Speaker 02

  In Holiday Touchdown, a Chiefs love story on the Hallmark Channel. Got to admit, I have not seen a lot of Hallmark movies. I'm excited to watch this one.

• 5:14Travis Kelce?

  Mama Kelce's um, she owns a barbecue joint.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  That's right. She's a manager of a barbecue restaurant.

• 5:19Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  And mom can cook a lot of things. I don't think she's ever made barbecue.

• 5:24Travis Kelce?

  She's never made barbecue for us.

• 5:25Speaker 02

  No.

• 5:26Travis Kelce?

  I mean.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  Like, not even like barbecue sauce. I don't even remember that being like a thing that mom would do. That was dad's deal.

• 5:31Travis Kelce?

  Dad was like, yeah, leave the barbecue to me. I'll make the sauce at home. And you know, I think it's good enough to sell. I think.

• 5:42Speaker 02

  He wanted that. You remember that dad wanted to sell his own barbecue sauce.

• 5:45Travis Kelce?

  He did.

• 5:45Speaker 02

  And mom was like, Ed, we can't mortgage our entire financial savings because you want to sell your barbecue sauce. That barbecue sauce was really good, though.

• 5:53Travis Kelce?

  It was fucking great.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  I've had it again. It doesn't taste. I don't know if dad didn't write down the recipe, right? I feel like, you know, sometimes when you're finagling stuff just off the fly, off the cuff, you nail it.

• 6:05Travis Kelce?

  It's good.

• 6:06Speaker 02

  I also like he, we tried to recreate it. He, we tried to recreate it and he gave me the list and I expected it to be like a.

• 6:14Travis Kelce?

  Big head is he's a Kelsey's.

• 6:17Speaker 02

  I, he gave me this barbecue sauce recipe and I was gonna try and make it one. It was like 4th of July or something like that. And I was expecting it to be like, oh, you got like.

• 6:26Travis Kelce?

  Ingredients.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  These spices.

• 6:28Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  These herbs, like brown sugar.

• 6:32Travis Kelce?

  Ketchup, brown sugar.

• 6:33Speaker 02

  This thing is nothing but other sauces and other condiments combined to make one sauce. It's like, I'm like, you can't.

• 6:40Travis Kelce?

  He scammed us all.

• 6:42Speaker 02

  You just went to the.

• 6:43Travis Kelce?

  He just had sweet baby rays mixed with fucking.

• 6:47Speaker 02

  Dude, he just went to the uh.

• 6:49Travis Kelce?

  Hey man, this shit is good as hell. No wonder.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  He went to the fountain Coke machine at McDonald's and just mixed a bunch of them together.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  I got more lip sauce.

• 6:58Travis Kelce?

  I'm not gonna lie, shit. That's how you got fucking vanilla Coke. That's how you got fucking, you know what I mean?

• 7:03Speaker 02

  All I know is it was good. And Dad was on to something. In another world.

• 7:08Travis Kelce?

  He figured it out. He figured it out.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  Big Ed's barbecue sauce could have been a thing, maybe.

• 7:11Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. And the word around town was, you know, Big Ed could fucking make some wings, man.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  He could make wings. Everybody loved those wings.

• 7:18Travis Kelce?

  Everybody. The original Kelsey mix.

• 7:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, check out the number 27th, as we said. Mom's first acting debut is hitting the big screens. Well, TV screens. I think those go straight to TVs. I don't think that goes to theaters.

• 7:31Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I think they go straight to streaming.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  You can't, you can't see Moana 2 in theaters.

• 7:35Travis Kelce?

  All right now. Jason debuts Santa drives in Astro Van. That's right.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, baby.

• 7:42Travis Kelce?

  How did it feel being up on stage, big guy?

• 7:44Speaker 02

  Well, my voice was gone. I lost my voice the previous week, so.

• 7:48Travis Kelce?

  We talked about this.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was really nervous.

• 7:50Travis Kelce?

  You didn't do our remedy?

• 7:51Speaker 02

  I tried. I think I had about, you know, I probably had more honey than Winnie the Pooh throughout the whole evening and the day before.

• 7:59Travis Kelce?

  You went the wrong route.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  I did tea and honey. It was both.

• 8:02Travis Kelce?

  See, you went tea. You can't, Jason, did you hear anything I said? You didn't fucking listen to anything I said. And you still had a raspy voice. You tried to go the fucking, you're so ridiculous.

• 8:15Speaker 02

  Between this and then trying to film something else, I could not sing this.

• 8:19Travis Kelce?

  Can we turn the sound off for a second while Jason's shaking his little shaker, little banana shaker? Oh, yeah.

• 8:28Speaker 02

  Everybody mute your computer now.

• 8:30Travis Kelce?

  I love your facial expressions like, here we go. Sorry, sorry, I'm not sorry.

• 8:44Travis Kelce?

  That's good. Nice.

• 9:01Travis Kelce?

  Nice, man.

• 9:04Travis Kelce?

  I love right before you get on the mic, you're like, you're like looking at everyone like, here it goes.

• 9:09Speaker 02

  Here it goes. Sorry for ruining the song, everybody.

• 9:13Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, we'll get through this, though. We'll get through this together and enjoy the rest of this song.

• 9:25Speaker 02

  I could not sing. It was so bad.

• 9:27Travis Kelce?

  You just gotta go.

• 9:27Speaker 02

  The honey did not help, but.

• 9:29Travis Kelce?

  You should have fucking just chugged some Jack Daniels before you walked up there.

• 9:33Speaker 02

  Everyone, I would encourage you to listen to the actual recording where I sound much better because my voice is not hoarse.

• 9:41Speaker 02

  But no, it was an awesome experience. It was really cool to be a part of. Mount Joy is phenomenal. The fact that they lent their time and energy to this effort was fantastic. Yeah, I don't know. The Eagles fans made it special. There was enough energy already because it was the biggest game of the year for the Philadelphia Eagles. So it was, it was just an awesome evening of, of music and football.

• 10:05Travis Kelce?

  Does it feel weird, you've done this the past like three years, does it feel weird doing a lot for Christmas not in December?

• 10:12Speaker 02

  It does feel a little weird, but you kind of have to do the lead up to it. You have to stay ahead of it. But you know me, I've always loved Christmas. We've always loved Christmas. So, you know, and listen, the previous two albums, we've raised over $4 million for.

• 10:28Travis Kelce?

  God damn.

• 10:29Speaker 02

  50 different charitable organizations because people have supported the album and bought it and appreciated it. So it makes it a lot easier to do when you know that it's going to make a huge impact in your community. So.

• 10:42Travis Kelce?

  Santa drives an Astro van, ladies and gentlemen, live at the link. The third and final record in the Philadelphia Special Christmas trilogy is, is out now. So make sure you guys go and check that out.

• 10:54Speaker 02

  Please support. We've had a lot of support in the past and we're trying to do it even bigger this year. We have aspirations to do a lot of amazing things for the community. And, you know, the only reason we're able to do any of that is because people support the album and it's turned into this wonderful Philadelphia thing that I think just is fun. We have a Operation Snowball we're trying to execute on this year. I haven't even told anybody about this yet. I don't even know if I'm allowed to share this. But our goal this year, Operation Snowball is a citywide special initiative to try and get a gift to every kid in the Philly public schools. So we're partnering with the Philadelphia Public School System, as well as some other organizations in the city and people in the

• 11:37Speaker 02

  private sector to try and get gifts to every single school for the kids throughout Philadelphia, which is a lot of kids. And the only reason we're able to do that is because the city supports it. People buy the album, they listen to the album. But more importantly, and I really felt this from the moment I got to Philadelphia, it's really just such a city entrenched with pride and joy for itself. The sense of community and family is so strong.

• 12:07Travis Kelce?

  It is very strong.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  And, you know, I don't know that it would be done anywhere else, but I think, I think we're gonna be able to pull it off with how much, you know, the community is willing to support it. So we appreciate you guys. Really excited to, you know, bring some joy around the holidays to everyone out there. And yeah, thanks for supporting.

• 12:29Travis Kelce?

  Jason broke a world record. Hey, how about that? Last piece of new news here. Jason is now officially a world record holder. How about that, Jason? Guinness Book of World Records. You made it, kid. On Monday Night Countdown, Jason attempted to break two world records. The longest blindfolded catch of a football, which did not go well at all. Was this inspired by the sun at AT&T Stadium?

• 12:57Speaker 02

  I don't know. So all of these things.

• 12:59Travis Kelce?

  Peeking through the glass?

• 13:01Speaker 02

  I think it was just Dude Perfect kind of set up a lot of these games. And they were like, hey, you're not going to catch this ball, but it's going to look hilarious. So it's like, all right, I'm game.

• 13:14Speaker 02

  So they actually pulled this off. They hold the world record, I think, for longest.

• 13:18Travis Kelce?

  Oh, right in the fucking clavicle.

• 13:21Speaker 02

  Right in the jugular.

• 13:23Travis Kelce?

  Uh, we gotta keep our, we gotta keep our hands up.

• 13:27Speaker 02

  I felt like I was a lot closer than what it just looked like.

• 13:30Travis Kelce?

  No, that's a, I mean, how long did they say it was?

• 13:32Speaker 02

  I think that one was over forty yards. That one was over forty yards. The longest hot dog was right around sixty yards.

• 13:39Travis Kelce?

  Somebody threw a hot dog sixty yards? There's no, from Dude Perfect? He can throw a hot dog sixty yards?

• 13:45Speaker 02

  So he, he had a good little arm on him and we got downwind. We had to switch sides so that the hot dog would make it down there.

• 13:52Travis Kelce?

  Give this guy a fucking scholarship, man. Fuck.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  Motherfucking scholarship!

• 13:58Travis Kelce?

  Dude, this is, this is goddamn good. The longest throwing catch of a hot dog into a bun. Nice. So he was just throwing naked wieners and you were catching them in the bun?

• 14:09Speaker 02

  In my bun. Oh, yeah. That's right.

• 14:12Travis Kelce?

  Were they toasted?

• 14:13Speaker 02

  My buns. My buns were.

• 14:14Travis Kelce?

  Toasted bun guy.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  My buns were loose and lubricated and ready to receive that wiener.

• 14:20Travis Kelce?

  Jesus.

• 14:22Speaker 02

  Perfect catch. I will say, those hot dogs.

• 14:25Travis Kelce?

  When you need it.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Dude, those hot dogs at Jerry World are fucking ridiculous. They are, the girth on those hot dogs. And then we did another one where we actually ate the hot dog.

• 14:35Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I saw that.

• 14:36Speaker 02

  No filler. It was disgusting. It was a cold. It was absolutely gross.

• 14:40Travis Kelce?

  Now you know exactly what I'm talking about. That's every hot dog. You just finally came to realization.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  This one just had a consistency to it that was like, you know, hot dogs have like filler in it, like it's not all meat.

• 14:52Travis Kelce?

  The entire thing is filler.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  But I think that one was so.

• 14:56Travis Kelce?

  A filled up condom.

• 14:56Speaker 02

  It was too high quality of a hot dog. I think I found out through that, eating that hot dog, that I like cheap hot dogs. If it's too nice of a hot dog, it's like.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  It was a bad hot dog.

• 15:07Travis Kelce?

  A gourmet glizzy. You were catching gourmet glizzies.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  It was thick and like as soon as I bit into it, I was like, what in the hell?

• 15:16Travis Kelce?

  Honestly, dude, a hot dog eating contest might be a nightmare. Like, I think I've actually woken up in like a dead sweat out of a, out of sleep one time because I was in like a, a hot dog eating contest against my will.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  You had a nightmare? A hot dog eating contest nightmare?

• 15:32Travis Kelce?

  Dude, that, I mean, just the smell and just you're stuffing yourself until you have to vomit. And then I already have to vomit because of the texture.

• 15:43Speaker 02

  Have you ever had a mayonnaise eating contest nightmare?

• 15:46Travis Kelce?

  No, nobody would ever do that.

• 15:48Speaker 02

  Dude, that's the real thing.

• 15:49Travis Kelce?

  No, it's not.

• 15:50Speaker 02

  Brandon, find a mayonnaise eating contest and put it on this fucking screen right now.

• 15:54Travis Kelce?

  I just got fucking chills.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Manny, mayonnaise eating contest.

• 15:57Travis Kelce?

  I just got chills. I did have lunch, Jason. I don't want to do this.

• 16:00Speaker 02

  Dude, I've seen it. Like, people have eaten like five jars and shit.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Look at this.

• 16:08Travis Kelce?

  All right, that's all I had to see. I just wanted to see if it was real.

• 16:17Speaker 02

  I'm about to throw up too.

• 16:18Travis Kelce?

  Dude, what the fuck?

• 16:19Speaker 02

  That is so gross.

• 16:32Travis Kelce?

  I don't want to watch it anymore.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Dude, I don't even get queasy and this is disgusting.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  It looks like I'm kind of like tricking myself and thinking she's eating yogurt. I'm like in my head, I'm like, okay, it's actually vanilla pudding. That's the only way I can be comfortable is fooling myself.

• 16:54Travis Kelce?

  The texture is disgusting. Oh my gosh.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  That is so gross.

• 16:58Travis Kelce?

  Oh, get it out of here.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  I like that she just shook her head. Can we just fast forward to the end? How many, how many did she get through?

• 17:06Travis Kelce?

  Ah, it doesn't matter. That's just foul.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  Gosh.

• 17:12Travis Kelce?

  That's just foul.

• 17:13Speaker 02

  She's going back?

• 17:14Travis Kelce?

  This is like Fear Factor, man.

• 17:18Travis Kelce?

  Ah, dude, I'm sweating now.

• 17:20Speaker 02

  Gosh. Why is this so like, I watch hot dog eating contests all day and not get grossed out? This is like, there's something just like so repulsive about this.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  Can I just point out that like

• 17:36Speaker 03

  I'm gonna send Swag and you get it off the screen.

• 17:39Travis Kelce?

  This is like nails on a chalkboard to me, dude. I can't look up and fucking

• 17:44Speaker 02

  All right.

• 17:45Travis Kelce?

  Mina Kuna is fucking just housing fucking mayonnaise, dude. This is disgusting.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  Five jars of mayonnaise in three minutes.

• 17:51Travis Kelce?

  What the fuck was that? That was a roll. You just put me on a roller coaster, Brandon. I feel like I just fucking got tossed around the room, man.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  So yeah.

• 18:00Travis Kelce?

  Damn it.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  Maybe now you'll have a nightmare about that.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  Man, that's really gross.

• 18:07Travis Kelce?

  That was so unsafe.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  For everyone on audio that is not watching this on YouTube, I highly recommend you do not, do not go and watch that. What was her name again? Michelle, let's, let's go.

• 18:18Travis Kelce?

  Michelle, let's go.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  Do yourself a favor and do not watch that clip.

• 18:22Travis Kelce?

  And that does it for new news brought to you by Moana 2 in theaters November 27th. How about that?

• 18:29Speaker 02

  Thank you to our partner, Royal Caribbean.

• 18:32Travis Kelce?

  Dude, have you seen this? Royal Caribbean just dropped the Legend of the Seas. It's the biggest cruise ship on the planet. Like, nothing's even close to being this big. And it's sailing out of Fort Lauderdale, starting this November.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  That's right. This thing is stacked. Seven pools, more places to eat than you can even count. I mean, they have something for everybody.

• 18:56Travis Kelce?

  Like, bring the kids, bring mom and dad. Shoot, bring the whole crew. Everybody's got a spot that's what makes it special.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  And the entertainment, Latin music, ice skating, full on Broadway shows. It's pretty amazing. Pretty much everything you want in one place. Oh, and did I mention there's a water park?

• 19:13Travis Kelce?

  You didn't, and that's, that'd be the kicker for me.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  I love a water park.

• 19:16Travis Kelce?

  But the crazy one? Crown's Edge, a ropes course off the side of the ship. Not for the faint of heart, brother.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  They've also got Playmaker, sports bar and arcade. So that means games on every screen. I love a good arcade sports place.

• 19:34Speaker 02

  Combination.

• 19:34Travis Kelce?

  All right, Catman, get the family on the new Legend of the Seas sailing November 2026 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  Visit RoyalCaribbean.com to learn more. All right, bold topics to wrap up week 11 in the NFL. Chiefs recap. Let's get into it, Trav. Bills 30, Chiefs 21. Great game. It was a fun game to watch. Did not turn out the best for the Kansas City Chiefs.

• 20:00Travis Kelce?

  The Bills played a great four quarter football game. Turnover early, got the ball at half possessions. Didn't have a lot of them. They were doing a good job of, of, you know, keeping our offense off the field, putting together drives. I mean, keep having, keep having my homes off the, off the football field, man.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  Absolutely. And it was impressive.

• 20:19Travis Kelce?

  I mean. Yeah, they were converting third downs, something that I think we didn't do a great job of. They won their one on one matchups in a lot of different areas. And it wasn't just, you know, in, in terms of like the wide receiver DB one on one matchups. I think it was all over the board and back to the drawing board for sure. I think it was a, it was a nice, I want to call the wake up call because we went into that game knowing that, you know, the Bills were one of the top teams in the football in the NFL. Sometimes you just need a different perspective on, on, on things. And watching this game back, you know, you kind of see a trend happening over the past like three to four weeks. And, and you just got to fine tune things. Get back to the basics, get back to the fundamentals.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:04Travis Kelce?

  And really just get back to, to going to work throughout the week. And, uh, and you know, I have all the confidence in the world will, uh, will be better because of this game. But at the same time, you know, hats off to the Bills for showing up, man.

• 21:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have a feeling this is not going to be the last game, uh, the Kansas City Chiefs and Bills play this season. And kudos to the Bills. They played great. Josh Allen played fantastic. Like we were saying, they sustained a lot of drives and the Kansas City defense has been so good. And I don't, I don't like the defense didn't play bad. It was more like the Bills just made plays at the right time. Josh played great. This was two really good teams going up against each other and. The biggest play of the game, you know, obviously Pat is so good down the stretch with the ball in his hands and he did it. The drive right before Buffalo scores their last touchdown. You guys drive down and bring the game within two points.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  And McDermott and the Bills have a decision on fourth down with two yards to either punt it or try and retain possession. And the last thing I think anybody thought was that Josh Allen was going to scramble and score a touchdown on the play. But I mean, I think that aggression is what you have to do.

• 22:14Travis Kelce?

  If you give me A, B, or C, I'm saying Josh Allen is doing something with his feet.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

• 22:19Travis Kelce?

  Josh, I mean, they were on quarterback power. They were like, yeah, let's do it in Superman's hands. Yeah.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  You know, no doubt. And he executed it to perfection. That's what they had to do. I think that they knew if they would have given that ball back to Pat, it's out of our hands and they decided to be aggressive and take control of it and it paid off. Man, look at that. And Karloftis was so close. If he

• 22:40Travis Kelce?

  George.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  Either way, it was an awesome game. You could see the intensity out there from both teams. Because obviously you guys have played a lot of meaningful football games against each other. Let's get some post game thoughts. Mahomes, you can use it as fuel. That's a good football team. So it's nothing to hang your head about. We feel like we can play better. So we'll get back to work and try to use it as a spark to be a better football team in the end. The undefeated thing was cool, but that's not our ultimate goal. I love this and I think that this is all you can do. You, you, you take losses or you take things that you're not operating at the right level or where you want to be at and you try and become better from it.

• 23:18Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  The Bills are a great football team. They are. They're, they're one of the best football teams in the NFL this year and they're going to be able to win any football game they're in. Especially with the guy they got playing quarterback and the team they've assembled and uh, you know, it's a, it's an experience that will ultimately make the Kansas City Chiefs better from moving forward. I really believe that.

• 23:39Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 23:40Speaker 02

  Andy Reid on the undefeated talk going away, potentially being a relief for his team. He said, I don't really care about all that crap, which.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  I mean, how much were you guys hearing of the undefeated stuff? Cause I, it feels like there's this narrative out there that that was potentially getting your head. I find that hard to believe that you guys were even like even thinking about that.

• 24:02Travis Kelce?

  You don't think about, oh, I really want to win this game so I could remain undefeated. No, we want to win this game because we, we have a lot of really close football games against the Buffalo Bills and we, we love fucking competing against them because they're one of the best teams in the league. Like I get fired up playing against the best.

• 24:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:18Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. I, I get fired up playing against the best teams in the National Football League and I was fired up for this one and I didn't play my best and that shit, that shit fucking like, it pisses me off and it, it made me, you know, go right back into work on Monday after the game and get after it and find a, find a way to make shit right.

• 24:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:35Travis Kelce?

  I think this is something that, uh, that you won't see out of us, um, in the future. I think we're very confident that we'll get the things fixed. We have all the talent that we need to go and, and win another Super Bowl. I've been on Super Bowl winning teams. We have enough talent to fucking make a run at this thing. And I think everybody knows that all we gotta do is just be our, be at our best. And that's what we were not for four quarters. I mean, there wasn't a single quarter that where it was like, oh yeah, we outplayed them. We got them on that. No, they were out there. They, they had a little bit more, uh, idea of what we were doing and they were fundamentally more sound in a lot of different areas.

• 25:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:10Travis Kelce?

  You know, I, I put that on myself, uh, to be more fun to, to harp on the fundamentals throughout practice. Make sure I'm getting out there and I'm running around. I'm not just going through the plays. Make sure I'm focused. Make sure I get the timing down with the quarterback so that, you know, we're, we're on time for Pat and Pat can be confident and throwing, uh, throwing the football where it needs to go. You know, a lot of this shit is just, it's very fixable and, um, and I got all the faith in the world in, uh, in, in this team. And I, obviously I just, I focus on, on the offensive side, uh, but I got all the faith in the world in Spags and, uh, and that defense to get it right as well.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  Well, Andy had a, a similar message to rookies and newcomers and really the whole team, I'm sure. Uh, you gotta dig in. This should hurt. You spend a lot of time and effort preparing for these games as coaches and players. You have to figure out. These problems and work to solve them. You can't just say everything's going to be okay. That's how this works. You have to check the ego at the door and do some self eval, which I think he's clearly saying, similar to what you're saying is, listen, we've been close to losing some games for the last couple of weeks and like now we finally have lost one. Uh, it's time to really focus on what we need to get better at.

• 26:19Travis Kelce?

  I don't give a fuck how your body's feeling. I don't give a fuck where your mentality is off the field. When you step in that building, we are here to figure shit out and we are here to get better as football players for the football team. I think that is a mentality going forward that everybody has to be a part of, um, top down. And I think, uh, myself included, I, I got, I gotta be the leader that I, I've been in the past and, and you know, hold myself accountable so that everybody sees, you know, how it's done. And, uh, knowing that we got a lot of new faces and a lot of rookies and, uh, and whatnot, you know, and, and sometimes you just need that smack in the face. It is what it is. Sometimes you need a smack in the face to be able to.

• 26:57Speaker 02

  Punch in the mouth.

• 26:58Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. To, to lock in and, and know that this is a, it's a any given Sunday type league and, um, and not saying that that team was just any, any other team, but I do believe we have better players and we get another shot at that, that team. I, um, I definitely get excited about it.

• 27:15Speaker 02

  Well, Leo Chanel shared that he and his teammates plan to use their first loss as motivation with the three word phrase, remember the feeling. Offensive bright spots, Mahomes got the ball to 11 different players. Guard Mike Caliendo caught a sprint out to convert a third down.

• 27:31Travis Kelce?

  This one got me fired up, man.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah?

• 27:34Travis Kelce?

  That one got me fired up, man. Caliendo's one of those guys. He's, he's a, he's a, right now he's number six on the, on the O line. So wherever we, whenever we need a guy, we bring him in.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  There you go. I love a little extra O lineman in the game. Yeah.

• 27:47Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Well, heavy personnel.

• 27:49Travis Kelce?

  A1, A1 guy, one of the best teammates on the, on the team, guy that just gets after whatever you need, coach. And we put him in a situation where he's just got to feel it out. He's got to feel the, feel the area out and on top of that, be ready for the football at any moment. Cause Pat is.

• 28:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:05Travis Kelce?

  And Pat trusted him. And he put it right on him for a big time third down.

• 28:09Speaker 02

  On his chest. For those of you wondering what this, this is called the side view. They call it in a sprint out or boot naked action. You have somebody that secures the edge for a second and then it's his job just kind of be like a last minute, like kind of safety mechanism. For the quarterback to dot him the ball. If everybody overplays the naked action like they do. Do you feel like the Chiefs offense is making progress to where you want to be at in January? Of course. I know it wasn't.

• 28:37Travis Kelce?

  A progress? I don't, I don't know if progress is the right word. I think, uh, I think. Obviously there's, there's good games, there's bad games, whether or not you, you come out victorious or you, you're winning your one-on-one matchups. How well did we execute the offense? A lot of people like to go into practices and say, did we have a good practice or a bad practice? No, we just fucking had practice.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  Right.

• 28:57Travis Kelce?

  You know, we, we figured out either how not to do shit or we figured out how to do shit.

• 29:02Speaker 02

  Right.

• 29:03Travis Kelce?

  And I think right now we're still figuring out how to run this offense the best. Or how to be at our best when the play is called. You know, that every play can't be like the most. The best play possible that the other team has no ideas coming.

• 29:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. And you're not going to out scheme them every single time, be wide open.

• 29:19Travis Kelce?

  Sometimes you gotta run the ball knowing they know the exact run. Sometimes you gotta, you gotta make a play in the pass game when it's, when they have everybody covered and the ball's in the air. You have to be able to make shit right. You know, Coach Reed does a great job and the offensive staff and. The defensive staff here in Casey does a great job of putting us in positions to have success. But then it's our job to go out there and make that shit happen. And you know, that's where I put my pride, uh, in, in making sure that no matter what big red calls, we make that shit work.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:49Travis Kelce?

  And, uh, and I think Pat is, he's got the ultimate trump card back there and being able to do that. He's done that throughout his entire career. And, um, and that's, that's the goal. The goal is to keep trying to make everything that Coach Reed calls. Whether it's something that they got to take on or not. We gotta make that shit happen and, and, and I think that's, that's the direction that we're going for sure.

• 30:13Speaker 02

  And to what you just said, that's the thing that's made Pat so unique is, you know, I think Andy is as good at dialing up plays as anybody in the NFL. He's going to get you guys in a lot of advantageous situations, but when it isn't the advantageous situation, that's when Pat really is special. He can then improvise and do things that a defense can't prepare for because it's going to be something that is unique to that situation. And that's the great equalizer. So,

• 30:37Travis Kelce?

  Yep.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  You know, that's the kind of ownership and pride you guys want to have and knowing as players that at the end of the day, you know, we're the ones out there playing and we gotta make things go. So, love that. Next week, the Chiefs are headed to Carolina to take on the Panthers. Obviously not the same matchup as the Bills, but it is the NFL and you will get humbled by any team, especially one coming off their bye. Panthers are coming off their bye and after beating the Giants in Germany, two game win streak. Wow. After I declared the season was over, I did, I did indeed do that. I was mighty hard on the Panthers.

• 31:13Travis Kelce?

  Quarterback's playing better. They got some guys back on the defensive side. D-line is a very good D-line. That's the, where all their horses are. They're, a lot of their guys are up front. They got a, they got a very veteran type team. And you know, I feel like I've played a lot of these guys on different teams. Vikings, Broncos, kind of all over the league that, that have had this style of defense and we're going to have a fucking challenge. They see, they, they've seen us at, at our worst these past couple of weeks. We just haven't been playing our best, especially on the offensive side of the ball. And I think that, that's going to motivate them to feel like they have a chance. It's up to us, man. It's a mentality game, man. We go in there and do what we, you know,

• 31:55Travis Kelce?

  we know how at our best. I don't think there's a team in the league that can beat us.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:00Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, let's move along to the, to the Eagles, baby. Eagles, a little Thursday night football action against the Commandos.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, baby.

• 32:07Travis Kelce?

  Eagles 26, Commanders 18. Washington had been, they, they came out the, the gates hot and they've had a bit of a up and down the past like three or four weeks, I believe.

• 32:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, they've still been good. The, the commanders are a good football team. They really are. They're well coached. Dan Quinn is a phenomenal head coach and we're seeing how different that Dallas Cowboys defense looks with him not at the helm. I think. I just think he's, he's very good at utilizing guys within his system, scheming things up. There were a number of things he did in this game that stalled the run game out. The run yardage might look good because it ended good at the end of the game, but there were a lot of negative runs and things that they did that I think kind of threw the Philadelphia Eagles off, especially early in the game. And eventually we saw kind of what I think is probably the commander's weakness this year, which is the trenches

• 33:03Speaker 02

  on both sides. I just think that they, they are a very good team. The quarterback, Jaden Daniels, has played out of his mind for the majority of the season, especially as a rookie. I just think they're going to struggle against teams with good offensive lines and good defensive lines. I just think that they have good players. Their offensive line is filled with a lot of journeymen that have played football in the league for a long time and they are good players. But on both sides, they're missing just like a couple of those dudes that like you can lean on to like, hey, this guy's going to create movement. We know where to go behind this one. They're just missing a little bit of that. And I think that when teams that are going to be able to win that physicality with them, they're going to be able to put pressure on Jaden Daniels and take him off his rhythm and timing,

• 33:46Speaker 02

  shut down their run game. Cause their run game, a lot of people have been talking about Jaden as a thrower. Brian Robinson and this rushing attack between him, McNichols and Eckler, all three of those guys, they've been running the ball like crazy. I just think that the Eagles defense has been really clicking as of late.

• 34:04Travis Kelce?

  Well, Eagles are now first place in the NFC East behind only the Lions. Is Nick Sirianni not getting enough love from Philly?

• 34:11Speaker 02

  You know what? I was listening to WIP this morning. I think the Eagles.

• 34:13Travis Kelce?

  The fuck is WIP?

• 34:15Speaker 02

  WIP is the local, like big sports talk show station in Philadelphia.

• 34:21Travis Kelce?

  So they're the ones that have been shitting on them.

• 34:22Speaker 02

  Well, they control a lot of the narrative, but I will say they usually are, I think WIP does, is pretty much for the most part, I don't want to say for the most part, WIP is oftentimes just a reflection of what the fan base truly thinks about the team.

• 34:36Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, that's how you keep the fans involved.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  Sometimes they are wrong.

• 34:39Travis Kelce?

  Keep them listening.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  Sometimes they are wrong.

• 34:41Travis Kelce?

  See? That's what I mean. I told you Sirianni is done.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  They're also, it tends to be, it tends to be the loudest fans, which, you know, hey, listen, I go on WIP. I like listening to WIP for these exact reasons. I like hearing those perspectives, but I, I think Nick, Nick was facing a lot of criticism for the end of last year and early on this year, he made a lot of fourth down calls that just haven't gone their way. And he's faced a lot of criticism for that. A lot of fans have been saying, you know, what did he do? He's not calling plays anymore. What is he doing as a head coach?

• 35:13Travis Kelce?

  It's so unfair.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  It is. It's very unfair.

• 35:17Travis Kelce?

  It's so fucked.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  And, and Nick is really, that narrative is starting to flip. Obviously, when you win games, that's all people care about. And at the end of the day, what I think Nick does a really good job of doing, he's a great communicator. He does a wonderful job in team meetings and communicating who we are as a team, what we need to do, how we're going to attack them, what we're going to be on offense and defense, making critical decisions in the games, which some of them haven't gone his way this year, but I still don't disagree with most of those decisions. And at the end of the day, I think Nick has done a great job, especially retooling from a disastrous end of last year. I mean, we lost a lot of games down the stretch and they bring in Vic Fangio, they bring in Kelce Moore,

• 35:58Speaker 02

  and you can just see that they're so much more well coordinated and well oiled machine this year, as well as retooling from a talent perspective. They go out and sign Saquon Barkley. A lot of the young guys that they drafted have, have really started to come on, especially in the defensive side of the ball. Jalen Carter's playing as good as anybody is right now. And, and Nick is definitely starting to get back into good graces of Philly fans, even though it was a rough start. I think there was a poll today that, you know, most people are like, oh yeah, he's, he's got a better winning percentage than like all these coaches through the first three seasons. That can't just all be luck. Like he's got to be doing something good.

• 36:33Travis Kelce?

  Well, you give them the best players in the league.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  Who do you want to win with? Who do you want to win with? People don't win with bad players. I don't care how good of a coach you are. That's not how it works. And, but there are people that will lose with good players. One of my favorite quotes, or one of my favorite sayings, and I'm trying to remember who Kobe said, but you remember when the last dance came out from the Chicago Bulls?

• 36:59Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  And my whole life, I kind of thought Phil Jackson was a little bit overrated, if I'm being honest.

• 37:05Travis Kelce?

  What?

• 37:06Speaker 02

  Dude, he coached Michael Jordan and then he had Kobe Bryant, Shaq. Like he had Scottie Pippen. Yeah. And I'm like, dude, this guy didn't do anything redeeming. Then I watched last dance. I was like, oh no.

• 37:16Travis Kelce?

  Oh no.

• 37:16Speaker 02

  This guy like kelped that whole fucking thing together. Like.

• 37:20Travis Kelce?

  He's just putting out fires.

• 37:22Speaker 02

  Jordan and Pippen hating each other towards the end of it. Like, I'm like, this dude was.

• 37:27Travis Kelce?

  Get in this circle.

• 37:28Speaker 02

  So important.

• 37:29Travis Kelce?

  We're gonna do some mindful.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. The Zen master. So I think.

• 37:36Travis Kelce?

  I would have been so out on that dude. Oh my God.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  So Kobe came and talked.

• 37:41Travis Kelce?

  It sounded been like, Phil, what the fuck are we doing?

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Dude. Kobe came and talked to the team one year and he talked about this narrative that Phil Jackson isn't a good coach because he's always had good players. And Kobe's like, well, who do you want it to win with? You want it to win with? And he named like somebody and I can't remember who, I don't want to throw shade at whoever basketball player he did name. But he was like, that's not how it works. You have to have good players to win, right? But at the end of the day, he won and there's a lot of coaches that didn't. So I think, uh, you know, Nick is put together for the most part of his career.

• 38:13Travis Kelce?

  Offense, Jason, everything's geometry. You got to understand this is, you got to spread the floor out. Give two guys freedom, everything outside of that. We just need cutters, guys in the right place at the right time, knocking down open shots.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  Well, Nick Sirianni's offense.

• 38:29Travis Kelce?

  Get in the paint and elevate, son. What are we doing?

• 38:34Speaker 02

  Well.

• 38:35Travis Kelce?

  The easiest shot in basketball. Get as close as you can. Michael, show him how it's done.

• 38:45Travis Kelce?

  All right, boys, we're gonna implement the triangle offense.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a long way to way of saying that like, at the end of the day, Nick Sirianni's been on some really good teams in Philadelphia. Yes, they've had really good players, Howie Roseman and the, and the personnel department have done a great job as well as the coaches of building a roster that is gonna be, you know, synonymous with the team and way they want to play football. And I think that right now they're really starting to come together. They found out their identity on offense. Saquon Barkley is a big piece of that.

• 39:12Travis Kelce?

  Speaking of Saquon, he rushed for 146 yards and two tutties against Washington. Man, this guy is fucking balling, man. Couldn't have happened to a better guy, man. We had him on the podcast in the off season. And I think we both realized it right then and there that we were like, damn, Philly just got a fucking.

• 39:32Travis Kelce?

  They just stole from the entire NFL, man. And you could tell how, how just down to earth he was and how much of a teammate he was. He had been dealt with some injuries over there in New York, but it's just awesome to see him get this thing going. Game ceiling, 39 yard touchdown late in the game. Shout out to Cam Jergens on blocking the safety.

• 39:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 39:55Travis Kelce?

  Twice on this play.

• 39:56Speaker 02

  Dude, he blocked him twice on this play and he, he got him the play right before this. They ran this play two times in a row. This is the second version of it. They ran this play, I think, three times in the game that I saw. Yeah, he obliterated.

• 40:08Travis Kelce?

  You just, you just see the office, just everybody's creating grass. Half their team is outside the numbers.

• 40:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:14Travis Kelce?

  And when you get a defense trying to play their gaps so far to their, like damn near on the sideline, it just creates so much room for a guy with speed and vision to be able to work with, man.

• 40:24Speaker 02

  They're playing this like four minute defense. They got the time in front there and the safety's down, weak side. And Cam does a great job of getting up to him. His hands are so strong. He has that great like three inch punch that is just so violent when he connects. He launches guys in space.

• 40:43Travis Kelce?

  God damn.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  So they ran that play, the play right before they ran that exact same play to the left and Cam, if Landon would have held on to that block, they probably would have scored on that play because he did the exact same thing to the guy. Just launched him. Yeah, check this out.

• 40:55Travis Kelce?

  Jesus.

• 40:56Speaker 02

  So strong and he knew it too. He did a little head bob right there. Oh my gosh.

• 41:01Travis Kelce?

  Big jerky.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  Beef jerky.

• 41:03Travis Kelce?

  Jerky jerking. Jesus kid. Get up, get up, get up. Make a play, make a play. Fuck him back on the ground. Man, that's, that's tough.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  Saquon had a couple of big ones at the end of the game. He had that one and then the play right before that that he scored the touchdown on, not right before that, but the drive before that, when he scored the touchdown on, they had been, you know, when teams play a shell, like, let's say we're two by two. I don't know if this is worth getting into, but you, you run a zone play weak side and that nickel plays the B gap late to the weak side. You know what I mean?

• 41:34Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I hear you.

• 41:35Speaker 02

  We call it a nosey nickel. They were doing that a bunch and that ball was getting so close. Like Saquon had like two or three that could have been huge hits right through that B gap.

• 41:46Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 41:46Speaker 02

  But Devante the first time, if he just would have dug the nickel out just a little bit harder, that would have been explosive. Then there was another one where it just kind of got in the way enough, right? Where it ruined the run right before it. He scores a touchdown on it. I think they got confused. I don't know if Bobby didn't know that they were rotating down to the tight end, but they didn't have anybody in that B gap and it was a

• 42:08Travis Kelce?

  Out the gate.

• 42:09Speaker 02

  25 yard touchdown, whatever it was. But anyways, they really should have done better on the ground. I thought Dan did a really good job of scheming some things up, but I, I came away from the game. I mean, this was really positive. Saquon is so good, man. The speed and jumping over people, that's a lot of the stuff that people notice watching him. What I noticed is he is on, he's got such good vision. He makes so many plays and makes reads that I've never seen or played with a guy make. I mean, you could argue LaShawn was as good at it. Uh, LaShawn was maybe the shiftest guy I've ever seen play football, but Saquon does so many things. He's patient when he needs to be. He gets through the hole with explosion when he needs to.

• 42:54Speaker 02

  He hits it front side or backside. He's running duo. He can get it to that backside, uh, which is so hard to see. He just does a phenomenal job of creating runs and, um, combined with this offensive line and the quarterback they have and the threat he is, uh, you know, good luck, you know? So anyways.

• 43:12Travis Kelce?

  Well, Saquon's rushed for a thousand yards, the 1,137 yards and eight touchdowns so far this season, uh, just 175 yards behind his, his season best with what? Seven games, six games left?

• 43:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I don't want to jinx anything, but yeah, he's looking pretty good about midway through the season here.

• 43:32Travis Kelce?

  The last running back to win MVP of the National Football League was Adrian Peterson back in 2012. That was the last non-quarterback to win it as well.

• 43:42Speaker 02

  How about that?

• 43:43Travis Kelce?

  Should we stop calling it the MVP and just give it to the best quarterback, like the most valuable quarterback?

• 43:49Speaker 02

  Just announced that the best quarterback is the MVP?

• 43:52Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, the most valuable quarterback and then make the, I mean, cause then the offensive player of the year, that's the one that kind of gets shuffled around to like running backs and wideouts and I don't even think a wideouts won it. But yeah, I don't know. I just think, I, I think there needs to be some other metric for outside of quarterbacks.

• 44:12Speaker 02

  Well, it's hard because.

• 44:13Travis Kelce?

  There's so much being put on the quarterback.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  The reality is.

• 44:17Travis Kelce?

  Got the ball in his hands the most of the time. So I get it, but.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, the reality is the more, the majority of the, the quarterback is the most valuable position on offense. So it makes sense that they're the ones winning this award the vast majority of the time. Every once in a while, there is a running back like Adrian Peterson in 2012, where it's so obvious that the only reason this offense is successful, or the main reason this offense is dominant the way they are, is because of how good that player is. There can absolutely be a case made for Saquon Barkley this year and the way he's playing and how he has elevated the offense and what the offense has turned into. Cause the team that, you know, we've always been a running team a little bit with, uh, Jalen and kind of the attributes that he brings opens a lot of the run game up. But they have really turned into this run and play action team first and second down and they're

• 45:05Speaker 02

  embracing it. And Saquon, you know, he's just, he, he is. Made the offense and the team so much better as a player and as a person. I think it's a very good argument that he is the most valuable component to a team. Uh, this season, we'll see how the rest of the season goes. I think, uh, there's a lot of people saying like, you know, because of the tush push, he's missing out on a lot of touchdowns. Anybody that's taking touchdowns away from Saquon Barkley, like that's making him less valuable. I think. Shouldn't even be allowed to, you know, choose who an MVP is like the dude is being dominant. I don't think that that's a metric that should should gauge that.

• 45:39Travis Kelce?

  Well, talking about those touchdowns, uh, Saquon has, uh, has landed on the one yard line. Nine times this year. That is it. Yeah. And he has eight touchdowns. So you add those nine to it. He'd be sitting at 17 right now. Uh, halfway through the season and that would be insane.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, it's probably not a hundred percent, but let's say out of those nine. He probably ends up with at least seven touchdowns. I think that's probably a good percentage off of those.

• 46:09Travis Kelce?

  From the one yard line, I like Saquon giving the ball. I think that's about a 70, 80% chance. Yeah.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  I think that's fair to say, and that's a lot of touchdowns.

• 46:17Travis Kelce?

  It's crazy. I wonder how many times I've been stuffed at the one yard line.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  Dude, it's hard to get in there. It's tight spaces. Like Stout said, it's like cramming salt up a fat lady's ass down there in that one yard line.

• 46:28Travis Kelce?

  Shit's watertight down there, man.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 46:31Travis Kelce?

  Crab rear end.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  What's the other one? Ducks bottom? You ever heard that one? Uh, there's something with a duck and a bottom. Anyways, yeah. Next week, the Eagles head to Los Angeles to take on the Rams.

• 46:43Travis Kelce?

  Hmm. Nice.

• 46:45Speaker 02

  Unrelated question, who's going to win the NFC West? Great question.

• 46:48Travis Kelce?

  I mean, it's a race over there with the Niners and Seahawks and Rams.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  I think it might be the Cardinals.

• 46:54Travis Kelce?

  Cardinals are going to find their way out of there.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 46:57Travis Kelce?

  They already got, they already got a game up on everybody, right? They're leading.

• 47:00Speaker 02

  They are. They're leading. I want to see Kyler continue to play the way he is. Like. At the end of the day, you just got to see it proven. You know what I mean? In the 49ers. Uh, have proven it more over the past few seasons. Matthew Stafford has proven it in the past and Sean McVay as well as, you know, the Seahawks and Gino, both of those teams have proven it, have a track record. They've won Super Bowls, have been in Super Bowls.

• 47:25Travis Kelce?

  Cardinals are hot right now.

• 47:26Speaker 02

  But the Cardinals are hot. Jonathan Gannon hasn't been playing really well.

• 47:30Travis Kelce?

  How about it?

• 47:30Speaker 02

  They have a great running game and Kyler Murray's playing really well right now. So.

• 47:33Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, he is.

• 47:34Speaker 02

  It'll be interesting to see, but if he, if they keep playing like this, I think it's the Cardinals.

• 47:38Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, there you go. Eagles right behind the Lions over there in the NFC.

• 47:43Speaker 02

  Who would have thought?

• 47:45Travis Kelce?

  As you know, 92 percenters, Jason and I are big Whopper fans. So, uh, let's talk about this million dollar Whopper contest and these new fan created Whoppers. All brought to you by Burger King. All right, let's go through these. There's the Fried Pickle Ranch created by Fabian.

• 48:01Speaker 02

  Mmm, crunchy fried pickles. Gotta love those pickles.

• 48:04Travis Kelce?

  And then we also have the Maple Bourbon Barbecue created by Calvin.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  That's right. Sweet and tangy barbecue sauce and bacon. Oh, did the mic just pick up my stomach growling?

• 48:14Travis Kelce?

  And last, there's the Mexican Street Corn Whopper created by Kelsey.

• 48:19Speaker 02

  Crunchy tortilla chips with roasted corn spread and spicy queso. And it was created by a Kelsey.

• 48:25Travis Kelce?

  And these Whoppers are only around for a limited time. So, America, go try them.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  The original Whopper is getting some serious competition with these new creations and you can crown your favorite at bk.com/ MDW.

• 48:40Travis Kelce?

  At BK, have it your way.

• 48:45Speaker 02

  You rule. The rest of week 11 in the NFL coming at you fast and it is brought to you by Burger King. That's right. We're gonna get to the Whopper recap right now. Wildest news out of week 11. For the first time ever, the Detroit Lions are the favorites to win the Super Bowl. Congratulations.

• 49:06Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, we'll see how, we'll see how it is. Not to take away from anything the Lions are fucking doing right now, because goddamn, they look unstoppable.

• 49:13Speaker 02

  They do. They look very good. They're. And we brought, we talked about like, can a running back ever win the MVP? The league has shifted back to, you know, this line of scrimmage, run and play action. Like the last few years, it's gone to this, you know, I mean, the last decade, it's been really pass heavy, spread it out, dial it up with a premier quarterback.

• 49:35Travis Kelce?

  Dan Campbell, getting his guys to bite kneecaps, man.

• 49:38Speaker 02

  Holy cow. They are just taking control of the line of scrimmage.

• 49:41Travis Kelce?

  Dude, their one-two punch that they're in the backfield, I might be two of the,

• 49:45Speaker 02

  It's impressive.

• 49:46Travis Kelce?

  Two of the best we've seen in the National Football League, dude.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  And they're kind of different. Like, I love the way David Montgomery, Montgomery's just a great every down back.

• 49:53Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  Or a great, like, first, second down, like, just run right at you. Gibbs, I really like watching him play. He's shifty, he's dynamic, he can do a lot of things really, really well. I think both of them combined are really just a very fun time. Oh, I didn't know this. They are nicknamed Sonic and Knuckles. So Sonic is definitely Montgomery.

• 50:19Travis Kelce?

  What?

• 50:19Speaker 02

  Gibbs kind of reminds me of like Knuckles. I could see that.

• 50:23Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I think you're, yeah, you got it twisted. Sonic is the fastest of the bunch.

• 50:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, but like Sonic doesn't, when I think of Knuckles, I think more of shiftiness from what I remember from those games. Like Sonic was just like a freaking Road Runner, like, or was a, like a bowling ball, which I think of more, like he would ball up. I kind of think of that more in like David Montgomery Lane, but whatever. Clearly, I don't know the nickname well.

• 50:49Travis Kelce?

  They both could do it both. All right, that is what it is. Yeah, either one of them could be whoever they want to be because they got the full package.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  That's about as dynamic of a duo we've seen. We saw what they did to the Jaguars and we'll get into that in a second. But first, we want to start out with a game that might have been my favorite game from this past week, especially from Sunday. Steelers beat the Ravens. There's something about Steelers and Ravens game. It's always tight.

• 51:13Travis Kelce?

  Come on, man.

• 51:14Speaker 02

  It's always physical, like that AFC North style of play that we grew up watching in Cleveland.

• 51:20Travis Kelce?

  AFC North, man.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  And it did not disappoint. My goodness. When you're playing, especially when you're older. And the chippiness happens on the field. I feel like a lot of times you're like, dude, will you stop with the nonsense? Like, what, what are you doing being ridiculous? You know, I mean, like, just like, can we just play football? Why you gotta get into all this other stuff?

• 51:36Travis Kelce?

  I haven't felt that yet.

• 51:38Speaker 02

  That's the way I was. Now I find myself like, dude, I love it. I love when people are like getting in each other's faces and talking trash. Like, Rodrick Jones going at it with Humphrey. They gotta get warned because they're about to get kicked out of the game because they're jawing at each other and hitting each other after the whistle. That's the kind of football that gets you excited. And that's what this game, that's the energy this game had. And that's the energy your guys' game had. You guys are a lot of back and forth. Deion Dawkins was all over the place. That's when you know the meaningful games are happening. And it was fun to see that kind of football being played. And the Steelers and Ravens, it was an old fashioned bar brawl. It was two teams that knew how important the game was. They were going at it. And ultimately, the Steelers won the game without scoring a single touchdown.

• 52:22Travis Kelce?

  Six field goals, baby.

• 52:24Speaker 02

  Boswell, six field goals, leading them to victory. I will say, Steelers won the game. Their defense looked outstanding and they clearly know how to kind of get under Lamar's skin. They kind of have always played them well. And part of it's their defensive line is just so good. And they kind of shut down some of the run actions and things that Baltimore likes to do. You know, T.J. Watt is a dynamic player. Cam Hayward is a dynamic player. The Ravens had their opportunities. And I still came away from the game thinking that the Ravens are probably the better team. They just had, you know, a lot of penalties, a lot of mistakes, and things kind of kept the Steelers in the game for long enough to secure a victory. Shout out to the Steelers. It's a big, big win for them. They're playing a lot better.

• 53:05Travis Kelce?

  Eight and two, or nine and two as well, I think.

• 53:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're, they're right there. Potential coaching changes. At this point in the season, there's a lot of speculation, obviously, on what is in the future. Because at this point in the season, there are some teams that are clearly not going to be competing for a Super Bowl. And some fanbases want to know what is in store for next year. They've already given up, Travis.

• 53:26Travis Kelce?

  I just don't believe in doing that, man.

• 53:28Speaker 02

  What do you mean firing a coach midway through the season?

• 53:30Travis Kelce?

  Midway through the season. I just, I, I, I understand things can probably get hostile in the building between the front office and a head coach. And I understand that that could be a part of it, but if you don't know the direction you're going in the future, to just fucking can a guy and make everyone's life that much harder, to change the scenery that much, that I just, I don't see the benefits of it.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  I think for me.

• 54:00Travis Kelce?

  I've also never been a part of a team where that was.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Listen, you've, Andy Reid, pretty, uh, pretty good. You guys have had the coaching thing figured out. First of all, I agree. I think most of the time it does not make, I don't like firing a head coach midway through the season. I'll say the one time that I think it probably does make sense in some regards is if there's tension in the building as a result of things not going well and the head coach is not a part of fixing that. He's a part of like making that an issue and exacerbating problems and.

• 54:33Travis Kelce?

  Exacerbating. That was the word I was looking for. Thank you.

• 54:36Speaker 02

  You know, there's a, you know, how do you know when the right time is to move on from a head coach? I think a lot of that comes down to when there's just like a difference of where you want the team to go from the ownership, uh, and personnel and like there's a disconnect on, you know, where we want to go next. And what we're doing right now isn't working and it's time for, in, in the best interest of everybody involved to move on. And, um, most of the time, the right time to make that decision is after the season. But there are some times where it's like, all right, listen, this is like not a conducive environment that we want to have. We want to have, uh, everyone more on the same page. So let's get rid of, uh, the head coach and it also kind of establishes to all the players

• 55:21Speaker 02

  that are still there. Like, oh God, they just fired the coach. We gotta, you know, we're next if we don't prove kind of, you know, who we are and what we mean to this team.

• 55:30Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 55:31Speaker 02

  In general, usually not a fan of that. Uh, but that's kind of when you know it's time to move on. When it's just like, man, you know, this coach has had his opportunities in his time and it just hasn't gone that way. Or in a worse way, it's like, man, everybody's finger pointing upstairs. That's when it's bad. When people are finger pointing upstairs, you know, everybody's. Every, all the coaches in front office doors are closed instead of open. It's not a good sign.

• 55:54Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 55:55Speaker 02

  Another blowout loss. So I guess these are who we're talking about. My man Doug Peterson in Jacksonville, lost 52 to six to the Lions. Another blowout loss. I mean, listen, it has not gone well for the Jags this year. And I think there's a number of reasons for that. Listen, I played for Doug. I know the type of coach he is. I know how much he cares about his players and the value he brings in that position.

• 56:20Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:20Speaker 02

  I will never not be willing to play and suit up for Doug Peterson.

• 56:24Travis Kelce?

  I'm right there with you, brother.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  Because of the type of guy he is and the, in the way he coaches the game. So it, it, it hurts me that they're struggling down there in Jacksonville. And, uh, you know, ultimately the head coach bears the brunt of all this stuff. That's part of that position. But it's hard for me to go there with Doug because I know what a fantastic, phenomenal coach he is. Another one that people are talking about is, you know, a situational failure with the Bears and Packers. Bears are now five and 17 and one score games under, uh, Eberflus.

• 56:56Travis Kelce?

  Fuck.

• 56:57Speaker 02

  2022. Man, that's rough.

• 56:59Travis Kelce?

  There, there was another stat out there that, that really is just like, he just, luck just hasn't been on his side late in the games, man.

• 57:08Speaker 02

  I will, I will say that stat that he's been in that many close games and like, I, I just think that.

• 57:16Travis Kelce?

  I think there was another stat saying that he, he's had the most like 90% chances to win and.

• 57:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, bad errors.

• 57:23Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 57:23Speaker 02

  I mean, listen.

• 57:24Travis Kelce?

  I forget what it was, man. And I met, I had the fortune of meeting Coach Eberflus over the off season. Actually, at the Kentucky Derby, man. I met him at the Derby. Great fucking guy. You could tell the guy just fucking loves ball, man. We were hanging out, talking ball, just about the entire time we were around each other, man.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  He used to be the linebackers coach in Dallas and he would coach, uh, Sean Lee and a bunch of those guys and give me fits. He was a, he's a fantastic coach.

• 57:48Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 57:48Speaker 02

  Defense has not been the issue for the most part in Chicago. They've played defense pretty well. Uh, they've really struggled offensively. And again, ultimately the head coach is kind of the one that bears everything. The fact that they're in that many one score games though, tells me that the defense has been playing well. They've had opportunities. They just haven't been able to execute. Uh, obviously there's the one glaring one that they kind of messed up on with the Hail Mary. And even the play before the Hail Mary against Washington earlier this year, the blocked field goal. I don't know how you put that on Eberflus, but. I guess you put everything on it.

• 58:18Travis Kelce?

  One fucking paw in the air, man. You can't just fuck. It's not even like they got penetrations.

• 58:23Speaker 02

  How did Eberflus not tell them to not let them put their hands up?

• 58:27Travis Kelce?

  Keep the hands down on.

• 58:31Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, he's been hit with a bunch of things that just I feel like have been out of his control. But there's so much to go into all of a of a football game, all four quarters of a football game. And like you said, man, the head coach is just, he's going to take the wrath. Yeah, he's going to take the beating if something's going on.

• 58:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I don't know. The one thing with Eberflus that's, you know, and listen, I think he's a fantastic defensive coach. They just invested a lot of money into Caleb Williams. So they need to figure out something that's going to make that kid thrive. And maybe that's, if it's not the offensive coordinator, you gotta hire a guy and steal him from an organization that is a proven offensive mind, in my opinion. I think you have to figure that out just from like a resource allocation, right? They need and want Caleb Williams to pan out. They're gonna have to figure out a way to make that happen because they got players over there. Like there's weapons over there. DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, they got horses over there. You know what I mean? So their offensive line has struggled a little bit, but even that, I think, I think they kind of got some decent offensive line.

• 59:31Speaker 02

  They just haven't really executed as well.

• 59:33Travis Kelce?

  Big question mark in the in the NFL for head coaches is a very shocking one for me because I've I've had a lot of trouble going or at least had a lot of bumps in the road going up against his team and that's Zach Taylor at Cincinnati.

• 59:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, when you start seeing quotes, it's not a good sign, right? Jamar Chase said, how do I do it? I don't know. Ask Zach. Ask the coaches. Don't ask me. That's not my job. What is, what was the question?

• 59:59Travis Kelce?

  Was asked, how how can the team finish better? That was the the question was, how does the team finish better?

• 1:00:06Speaker 02

  How do I do it? I don't know. Ask Zach. Ask coaches. Don't ask me. That's not my job. I don't think he's throwing shade at Zach in this.

• 1:00:13Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I think he's just pissed off.

• 1:00:15Speaker 02

  I don't call plays for us, you know, so I can't really do nothing. I think he's just basically saying that's like, yeah, I mean, maybe he's throwing shade. Let me, let me think about this more. How the team could finish better. I mean, he's just deflecting blame.

• 1:00:30Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:31Speaker 02

  And putting it on Zach and I mean, I don't know. I don't know what to think about this. This wasn't as bad as I thought before seeing it. I think there's probably a guy that's just frustrated, you know, feels like.

• 1:00:41Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, doesn't, doesn't have the answers right then and there, you know, obviously he's playing his fucking ass off. He's lead, he's about to be the triple crown winner if he stays on this pace and.

• 1:00:50Speaker 02

  Frigging beast.

• 1:00:51Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. So it's like, I mean, he's doing everything he can to, to win. And I think the question itself was asking him, hey, do you have the answers? He's like, no, I mean, that's.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:01:00Travis Kelce?

  You pay the coaches to figure it out. Yeah.

• 1:01:03Speaker 02

  That's above my pay grade kind of type answer.

• 1:01:05Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, especially right the fuck now after I just had another heartbreaking loss. Like, what do you like?

• 1:01:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:11Travis Kelce?

  What the fuck are you even asking me right now? I think it was one of those defer to the head guy and let the head guy answer those questions. Cause right now I don't want to fucking even think about it.

• 1:01:20Speaker 02

  Has to be believes plays are part of why Cincinnati isn't finishing. He said, I don't know. He's just being honest.

• 1:01:28Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:29Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:01:29Travis Kelce?

  I think he's, I think he spoke his mind in, in the past, and I think people are just looking for those kinds of quotes from him. Um, but I don't think this one, I don't think you dive too deep into this one, or maybe you do.

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  I think they're going to, especially in Cincinnati, because the Bengals are much worse than they expected them to be. You know, everyone expected this team with, uh, Burrow coming back and being healthy to be a Superbowl contender. And as of right now, it looks like they're not going to make the playoffs. So Zach Taylor is going to face a ton of criticism. And again, that's the nature of it.

• 1:02:04Travis Kelce?

  Yep.

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  He's been there for six years. This is where it starts to, but the Bengals are unique. The Bengals don't. Family run business, they hold out to coaches.

• 1:02:13Travis Kelce?

  I would say that Coach Taylor is not going anywhere.

• 1:02:15Speaker 02

  The one thing that probably does make sense, Dallas, I mean, so bad last night against Houston, it just doesn't feel like anything is headed in the right direction.

• 1:02:25Travis Kelce?

  It really looked like that's a motivated football team. I don't know.

• 1:02:27Speaker 02

  It looks like it's a bad.

• 1:02:29Travis Kelce?

  It looks like everybody's collecting checks over there and you can tell a team when it's fighting. And it doesn't look like too many guys are out there fighting.

• 1:02:38Speaker 02

  No, and like you want to talk about quotes, there's a lot of quotes, stuff on the sideline. Like, I mean, they fought in the first half yesterday. You know, they tried to fake punt. I just.

• 1:02:50Travis Kelce?

  Ask these nuts.

• 1:02:55Travis Kelce?

  Talk about these nuts.

• 1:03:00Travis Kelce?

  All time. I love it. I'm too much of a child, man. I'll defer to that. Shout out to Diggs, man. I know that shit. I mean, it sucks losing and when you don't have your best players out there, Dak's not playing. It's, it's, it's tough, man. It's tough, you know, C D Lamb's out there trying to make shit shake as much as he possibly can. And same with the run game. It's, it's, it's tough, man.

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  What sucks for Mike is that it feels like a lot of what is going on in Dallas. And listen, Dak hasn't played as well as everybody expected this year. It feels like it's a lot of it's personnel driven. Like they had opportunities to sign guys this offseason. They chose not to. They trusted the guys they had in the building and a lot of those young guys and people that they trusted just have not played at a high level. And I don't know that you can blame Mike McCarthy for that. Maybe you can. I don't know who's making those decisions. Brandon saying, yes, you do. Our resident Dallas fan, Brandon, interim Brandon. I think it's more Jerry's fault. That's kind of what I'm getting at. Like Jerry's the one who's making all of these decisions.

• 1:04:06Travis Kelce?

  He's the one who created this fucking stadium so that the sun would peek through. He's the one that fucking that doesn't want to do maintenance on the ceiling.

• 1:04:15Speaker 02

  If we want to get rid of Mike McCarthy, go for it. I do think they just paid Dak all this money similar to Caleb Williams. Like they gotta find a way to get him going for it to make.

• 1:04:26Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah, like they're invested.

• 1:04:28Speaker 02

  They've invested a lot of money. I know that Caleb isn't like, when that investment has been made in the quarterback, you, you, you have to figure out a way for that investment to make sense.

• 1:04:37Travis Kelce?

  The Giants are in the same boat right now.

• 1:04:39Speaker 02

  Oh, no, they're getting that they they've their cards have already shown. They're moving on from Daniel Jones.

• 1:04:44Travis Kelce?

  What? Is this news? Did he just get benched or something?

• 1:04:47Speaker 02

  He got benched. They're going to Tommy Cutlets, baby.

• 1:04:49Travis Kelce?

  Why shut the?

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  You didn't, I swear to God, Tommy Cutlets is back. You didn't hear this?

• 1:04:54Travis Kelce?

  No, man.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, baby. Not only they've been saying Jones, they didn't even go to Drew Lock. They went straight to Tommy Cutlets.

• 1:05:01Travis Kelce?

  Listen.

• 1:05:02Speaker 02

  I'm like, what is going on? We went, they, they want to, they just want those shirts. They want everybody in the stadium like, hey, we know we're not very good. We're just going to be a caricature of an Italian dude from New York now. But no, I mean, this is clearly they're, they're, the Daniel Jones experiment is over. They're, they're, they're benching him so that he doesn't get hurt and they don't owe him a bunch of money. There's going to be a bunch of changes in New York after this season. But yeah, back to Dak in Dallas. Uh, yeah, we aren't talking about that one. How's that one not on the coaching? I mean, is Dayball, you think Dayball safe? He was the coach of the year two years ago. I don't really know what to say about all this coaching stuff because it's hard to know what the right moves are unless you're in these buildings. Ultimately, coaches are responsible for the, for the product, for the outcomes.

• 1:05:45Speaker 02

  Beyonce halftime is coming to you live on Christmas Day.

• 1:05:51Travis Kelce?

  Fucking miss it, damn it.

• 1:05:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, baby. I can't wait to watch this one. Announced this week Beyonce will be performing at halftime of the Texans Ravens game on Netflix. Yeah. How much does the NFL hate the NBA Christmas games? What hit out of Adam Silver? Do you deserve this? Uh, listen, NBA does not have, you know.

• 1:06:10Travis Kelce?

  Christmas, right?

• 1:06:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, they don't have, you know, they're not the king of Christmas.

• 1:06:13Travis Kelce?

  No. Especially when the NFL is in town, baby.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  Hey, oh.

• 1:06:17Travis Kelce?

  Come on now. We get some, we get some big time matchups Texans Ravens Chiefs Steelers.

• 1:06:23Speaker 02

  How about that?

• 1:06:24Travis Kelce?

  Who would have thought? I mean.

• 1:06:26Speaker 02

  NFL people got to figure it out.

• 1:06:27Travis Kelce?

  Come on now.

• 1:06:28Speaker 02

  Pretty good. Pretty good.

• 1:06:30Travis Kelce?

  Hopefully Netflix can figure it out as well because the last time.

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  Dude, hopefully they get the streaming stuff. Right.

• 1:06:36Travis Kelce?

  God damn it. My shit got froze literally on Mike Tyson's cheeks.

• 1:06:44Travis Kelce?

  Dude, that was the one of, it felt like a parody going into it.

• 1:06:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:49Travis Kelce?

  Just from like Mike slapping him in the, in the weigh-ins and, or the, or like the.

• 1:06:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:06:56Travis Kelce?

  The pre-fight stuff.

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, that's like.

• 1:06:59Travis Kelce?

  And then just, dude, when he did the interview and then, cause I'm pretty sure he did the interview with his son. That was the son that interviewed him. He kisses him on the cheek, which I've never seen that in an interview ever in my life. The guy is done with the interview right before his fight goes and kisses another man on the cheek. Says, I love you and then walks off and the camera pans and slightly goes down so he can catch this guy and nothing but a jock.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna lie, I.

• 1:07:29Travis Kelce?

  I immediately sent that to fucking everyone. That was the funniest shit ever.

• 1:07:34Speaker 02

  I was not watching at this point. I'm kind of embarrassed that I watched this to begin with. I should have known better.

• 1:07:39Travis Kelce?

  What?

• 1:07:40Speaker 02

  Couldn't help myself.

• 1:07:41Travis Kelce?

  Oh, man.

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  I will say though, the moment I saw that clip on social media, like I didn't think Mike was gonna win before, but I knew when I saw those cheeks, he wasn't gonna win.

• 1:07:52Travis Kelce?

  Come on.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  Lose your glutes, lose your game. There ain't, I mean, he got an old man ass in that photo.

• 1:07:56Travis Kelce?

  Are you worth 60?

• 1:07:57Speaker 02

  If we're being honest, hey, listen, if we're being honest.

• 1:08:00Travis Kelce?

  Wow, how are you supposed to keep your glutes past like 40?

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  This is my point. This is why Andy said that. Lose your glutes, lose your game. You can't be out there with saggy glutes. He, he doesn't have the same.

• 1:08:10Travis Kelce?

  He wasn't bouncing. He wasn't, he tried. He was trying to bounce around.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  Listen, he could still whoop my ass, but the face of a legitimate person that trains in boxing is a whole nother thing.

• 1:08:20Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Oh, no, man.

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  I just think.

• 1:08:23Travis Kelce?

  That was, uh, that was some funny ass shit. Hopefully Netflix though, back to the point.

• 1:08:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:28Travis Kelce?

  Figure out how to, yeah, especially if we're gonna be watching all about, all the Christmas games on Netflix. Because I was fucking, I was pretty pissed. I was pretty pissed. It kept going in and out. It kicked me out, kicked me off about four or five times.

• 1:08:40Speaker 02

  I am pissed that. Nothing Netflix did. I'm only mad at myself for actually spectating that and contributing stuff like that happens. I don't know what I like. I just love Mike Tyson so much. I couldn't help but watch it. But I mean,

• 1:08:55Travis Kelce?

  I just love watching Cleveland.

• 1:08:56Speaker 02

  I knew what I was going into before it like even happened and I still like just could not

• 1:09:02Travis Kelce?

  But you can't. Nobody can. It's the best shit ever.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna lie. The ass interview definitely. I think I don't think I was gonna watch it. Kylie and I for what is great, great British bake off. And then I saw that ass interview. I was like, Kai, I gotta watch. I gotta watch this old man who used to be the baddest person on the planet. Try and

• 1:09:22Travis Kelce?

  Go up against this fucking beast of a Cleveland kid.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  This West Side.

• 1:09:25Travis Kelce?

  Just Cleveland kids living out their dreams. Baby, that's what I'm here for. Shout out to the Paul brothers, baby.

• 1:09:31Speaker 02

  Dude, I just, holy cow. Shout out to Jake Paul for not knocking out Mike.

• 1:09:37Travis Kelce?

  The Mike Tyson that we know, if he was in Jake Paul's position, he would have fucking KO'd that guy into a coma.

• 1:09:44Speaker 02

  Well, that's why Jake Paul's not Mike Tyson.

• 1:09:48Travis Kelce?

  He's got a heart.

• 1:09:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:52Speaker 02

  They wanted to talk about the interview with the kid that was asking, you know, what do you think of your legacy, Mike?

• 1:09:57Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, but that I'm talking about the vicious.

• 1:10:00Speaker 02

  That's a great. Yeah, that's a different level.

• 1:10:03Travis Kelce?

  That Mike Tyson.

• 1:10:04Speaker 02

  Is not changing about Mike Tyson is his ability to answer interviewers in the most spectacular fashion.

• 1:10:10Travis Kelce?

  Think I give a fuck about legacy?

• 1:10:12Speaker 02

  We're all gonna be dead.

• 1:10:15Speaker 02

  Who cares about legacy when you're dead?

• 1:10:16Travis Kelce?

  Shout out to the young girl reporting. God damn, she was really professional. She kept it together. That's a very interesting. I've never thought of it like that.

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  They did not prepare me for this in my multimedia class in high school. I did not know that I was gonna get ridiculous people to.

• 1:10:33Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, well, welcome to Fight Night.

• 1:10:36Speaker 02

  Okay, at some point, somebody's gonna tell you that nothing you do in life matters because everybody's gonna be dead and you're gonna have to act like it wasn't a ridiculous statement. Go.

• 1:10:45Travis Kelce?

  Okay, I can, I understand that. I get where you're coming from.

• 1:10:50Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 1:10:51Travis Kelce?

  Shout out to Mike Tyson, man, fuck.

• 1:10:53Speaker 02

  Dude, legend. Alrighty, that does it for Week 11 Recap. Brought to you by Burger King.

• 1:10:59Travis Kelce?

  Alright, now let's move along to No Dumb Questions to close out the show with some, uh, no dumb questions. Because there's no such thing as dumb questions, 92 percenters, just two dumbasses trying to figure it out. No Dumb Questions is brought to you by Mint Mobile. How about it, man? Alright, we're gonna answer some not dumb questions from our Heit Hotline voicemails today. How about it, man? Heit Hotline is hot. It's a hot hotline. Next caller on the Heit Hotline, what do you got for us?

• 1:11:28Speaker 04

  Hi guys, uh, my name's Ashley and, um, big fan of the podcast. But when we see like other 92 percenters out in the wild, what are we supposed to do? You know, like for Eagles, we say like, go Birds or, you know, but what do we say when we see a fellow 92 percenter out in the wild?

• 1:11:53Speaker 04

  You know? Should we be yelling anything at all?

• 1:11:55Speaker 02

  I like this.

• 1:11:56Speaker 04

  Should it be something, you know, profane? I'm not sure, probably not. Anyway, would love to know. Bye.

• 1:12:03Travis Kelce?

  Thank you, Ashley, for, uh, calling in on the Heit Hotline.

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, thank you very much.

• 1:12:07Travis Kelce?

  I don't think that's a dumb question at all. I think, uh-

• 1:12:08Speaker 02

  This is an awesome question.

• 1:12:09Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  I have not pondered.

• 1:12:11Travis Kelce?

  So Jason, I don't know about you, but whenever I'm out and about, uh, I do get random calls and, and shout outs from the 92 percenters.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  No doubt.

• 1:12:19Travis Kelce?

  The real ones, listening in every single week. Um, I'll always get a good, "New news!" Get that one, that's a fucking, that's like a fuck-

• 1:12:28Speaker 02

  That's a banger.

• 1:12:29Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, that's a, that's a calling for all the 92 percenters to unite right there. And then, uh- Was profound? Is that what she said? She wants one that's profound?

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  Profane is what she said, asking if we should have a swear word in there, which listen, I'm all, usually I'm all for profanity, but if this is a-

• 1:12:48Travis Kelce?

  Just yell out fornication, fornicating. I think that one, that'll get, that'll get everyone to be like, wait, what? I only know one guy that really talks about that on a weekly basis.

• 1:12:58Speaker 02

  We're gonna be in a public setting. We should probably limit the profanity.

• 1:13:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, just yell Jumanji instead of fornicating.

• 1:13:06Travis Kelce?

  Jumanji! Somebody put Jumanji on.

• 1:13:11Speaker 02

  You know, for some reason, what I thought of right away, so New Heights is obviously an ode to Cleveland Heights where we grew up.

• 1:13:16Travis Kelce?

  The Heights, baby.

• 1:13:17Speaker 02

  What do Heights, no matter what like class you're from?

• 1:13:21Travis Kelce?

  Heights high!

• 1:13:22Speaker 02

  Heights high!

• 1:13:23Travis Kelce?

  Heights high!

• 1:13:25Speaker 02

  Like, that's the, that's the international Heights high greeting.

• 1:13:29Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:29Speaker 02

  What, can we bring that to New Heights?

• 1:13:32Travis Kelce?

  New Heights! New Heights!

• 1:13:34Speaker 02

  Or should we just do Heights high?

• 1:13:36Travis Kelce?

  I think new news is, is probably the best one.

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  Well, new news is definitely the one that everybody goes, but-

• 1:13:43Travis Kelce?

  New news always does it.

• 1:13:44Speaker 02

  How about you guys send us some recommendations? How do you guys greet each other out in public? When, not just us, what do you guys say to each other? What are the first things that you, you bond over? When you see somebody wearing some New Heights apparel or somebody you know that watches the show? That's a tough one to answer for us, and I don't know that we have the, the-

• 1:14:00Travis Kelce?

  Credentials.

• 1:14:01Speaker 02

  Credent- yeah, the, the, the power to make such an, like, an audacious decision for our fanbase.

• 1:14:09Travis Kelce?

  There we go. Why don't we get another one? You hit us with another one, Matt.

• 1:14:12Speaker 05

  Hey guys, hoping you can answer a question that's causing a bit of a disagreement between me and the wife.

• 1:14:17Travis Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:14:17Speaker 05

  When is the earliest appropriate time to put up the Christmas tree? Am I being a complete scrooge by saying we should wait at least until after Thanksgiving? Thank you and go Birds.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  I, I think Thanksgiving has always been the, the date.

• 1:14:31Travis Kelce?

  In the Kelsey household, Thanksgiving was the day.

• 1:14:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, preferably you put it up on Christmas Day. I really, we never stay true to this.

• 1:14:39Travis Kelce?

  Put it up on Christmas?

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  Or Thanksgiving, sorry. Put it up on Thanksgiving Day. So I like the tradition. We have never done this in our house, but maybe we actually will get it done this year, where after Thanksgiving's over, you put the Christmas tree up. I like that tradition. I think that that's a good one. You know, Thanksgiving's really the start of Christmas season.

• 1:14:59Travis Kelce?

  We would have the Christmas tree already up, though.

• 1:15:02Speaker 02

  No, but you got the Christmas tree. You've bought it already, but it hasn't been put up, right? Maybe you buy it, you know, the day.

• 1:15:07Travis Kelce?

  I'm pretty sure we put it up, yeah, like a few days before, and then the ornaments and you dress, you dress the tree. That's Ed Kelsey question.

• 1:15:14Speaker 02

  Thanksgiving is definitely, to me, the pinnacle, like, day that you're really, that that's the start of Christmas season. I sit here advertising Christmas album that is out.

• 1:15:25Travis Kelce?

  I'm not, I'm also, I'm also not trying to see Christmas lights in the beginning of November, you know, I just don't, don't.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  Kind of with you.

• 1:15:33Travis Kelce?

  Don't do that to me.

• 1:15:35Speaker 02

  Don't ruin Thanksgiving.

• 1:15:36Travis Kelce?

  Don't, yeah.

• 1:15:37Speaker 02

  Let Thanksgiving be its own thing. It's lead up. It's so good on its own. You have Halloween, Thanksgiving, and then right after Thanksgiving, I mean, the moment that turkey goes down your gullet.

• 1:15:47Travis Kelce?

  Parents get to force their kids to eat stuff that they don't want, to teach them lessons in life, to be thankful.

• 1:15:55Travis Kelce?

  Let Thanksgiving be its own day.

• 1:15:57Speaker 04

  Hey, Jason and Travis, this is Lisa from Akron, Ohio.

• 1:16:01Travis Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:16:01Speaker 04

  As people and love your show.

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  Rubble.

• 1:16:04Speaker 04

  My relationship question for you is.

• 1:16:07Travis Kelce?

  Oh, they want to hear from the ladies, man.

• 1:16:09Speaker 04

  Who don't love to do chores, and I told them when they're older, they're gonna have to be doing them around the house anyways. So I wondered.

• 1:16:18Speaker 02

  Very old fashioned.

• 1:16:19Speaker 04

  What chores did you do growing up around the house, and do you do them now as an adult?

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  Oh, man, I don't.

• 1:16:27Travis Kelce?

  Uh, well, you gotta understand, you know.

• 1:16:32Travis Kelce?

  You gotta understand, you, I mean, you know, yes, I did do chores. So I started off as a child having to do chores. I feel like that's very good, uh, important lessons, uh, that's that I learned from mom and dad. Uh, we've both expressed the stuff that our father used to have us do in spreading mulch outside, cutting the grass with a, with just a blade lawnmower and.

• 1:16:55Speaker 02

  Raking leaves.

• 1:16:56Travis Kelce?

  Raking lea-, you know, that was all the outside stuff that dad didn't want us to do. Yeah, vacuuming.

• 1:17:02Speaker 02

  We never really did the trash.

• 1:17:04Travis Kelce?

  No, no, because, yeah, Big Ed, he was always up early. He was the first one up. He was always the one taking trash out.

• 1:17:11Speaker 02

  And mom did do our laundry too, which shout out to mom, but.

• 1:17:14Travis Kelce?

  Shout out to mom.

• 1:17:15Speaker 02

  I wish mom kind of made it to our laundry because I'm awful doing laundry.

• 1:17:17Travis Kelce?

  It's not that hard, Jason. It's.

• 1:17:19Speaker 02

  I know. I, I just suck.

• 1:17:20Travis Kelce?

  It really isn't that hard at all.

• 1:17:21Speaker 02

  I'm not good at it.

• 1:17:22Travis Kelce?

  Every now and then I'll, I'll get into it, but, um, I say that I did it at a younger age because now I just, you know, I'm so busy and I like naps. There's so many services that just do things better than me. They, they fold better.

• 1:17:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:38Travis Kelce?

  Put shit away, but you know, it's just, everything's just way more organized when I'm not doing that. Not that I can't do it because mom taught us very valuable lessons in being able to do this on our own if we needed. And there's times where, you know.

• 1:17:55Travis Kelce?

  Wait to finish.

• 1:17:59Speaker 02

  The one thing Kylie makes me do is trash. Like that is firmly my job.

• 1:18:06Travis Kelce?

  Nice.

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  And I suck at it. I miss it all the time because we're traveling right now, but I, I, I try to really stay on top of the trash, taking the trash down and, and embracing that. Not that I like, I'm trying to do the dishes all the time, but I've done them occasionally. Kylie hates when I do the dishes.

• 1:18:20Travis Kelce?

  Why?

• 1:18:21Speaker 02

  She just has OCD about getting all the food off the plate before you put it in the dishwasher. And the dishwasher instructions clearly state to not do that, to like, put it in the dishwasher, like it gets cleaner without doing that. So.

• 1:18:33Travis Kelce?

  Really? It gets cleaner without doing that?

• 1:18:36Speaker 02

  I'm just saying what the instructions say.

• 1:18:37Travis Kelce?

  There's no way. That's what, that's how they sell you. That's how they get you.

• 1:18:41Speaker 02

  That's what it says. It says somehow like using soap and scrubbing it off first and then putting it in there for some reason. Like, I don't know why, but that's what they say.

• 1:18:53Speaker 02

  Oh Kylie's getting mad at me right now. She's got OCD about cleaning stuff that I can't really.

• 1:18:58Speaker 03

  Stop fucking exposing me, you dick.

• 1:19:01Travis Kelce?

  Alright, we'll keep your hands off the dishes, Jason.

• 1:19:04Speaker 02

  Fine, I won't do the dishes.

• 1:19:08Travis Kelce?

  Um, yeah, no, you should do your chores if your parents tell you to do your chores and for all of you that don't live with your parents now and have a fucking messy house, figure it out.

• 1:19:18Speaker 02

  Oh, beautiful boots. Oh, beautiful gloves. Oh, look at your hat. Sorry about that. I was getting shown a pair of new boots, new gloves, and new hats. Travis, you frozen?

• 1:19:29Travis Kelce?

  No. That does it for No Dumb Questions. Brought to you by Mint Mobile. Keep calling in on that Heitz hotline. Ladies and gentlemen, we love listening to all your guys' questions, whether they're dumb and intelligent or just weird. Thank you, guys, for calling in.

• 1:19:44Speaker 02

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• 1:20:03Travis Kelce?

  Once again, New Heights is a Wondery show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV.

• 1:20:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, buddy.

• 1:20:10Travis Kelce?

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• 1:20:52Travis Kelce?

  What does your digestive system do with five pounds of mayonnaise?

• 1:20:58Speaker 02

  This is how they do it. Serving size, one tablespoon. Do you know how many tablespoons of mayonnaise that woman just ate?

• 1:21:02Travis Kelce?

  I don't know what you're even trying to find.

• 1:21:04Speaker 02

  Servings and then servings per container. A tablespoon of mayonnaise is 90 calories.

• 1:21:13Travis Kelce?

  So you're just trying to figure out-

• 1:21:14Speaker 02

  That's a tablespoon. That woman, I mean-

• 1:21:17Travis Kelce?

  10 grams of fat in one tablespoon?

• 1:21:20Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:21:21Travis Kelce?

  This woman just had, what?

• 1:21:24Speaker 02

  That's what I'm trying to say.

• 1:21:25Travis Kelce?

  There's no way you can digest that much fat.

• 1:21:28Speaker 02

  So she had 2,052 grams of fat in one jar. 252 servings times 10 grams is 2,520 grams of fat per jar. She ate five of them? That woman had 12,600 grams of fat in three minutes.

• 1:21:51Travis Kelce?

  I'm good with aioli.

• 1:21:53Speaker 02

  It's the exact same thing. I don't know how you can't get over this.

• 1:21:56Travis Kelce?

  No, it's a different taste.

• 1:21:57Speaker 02

  What is mayonnaise? Can we Google that real quick?

• 1:21:59Travis Kelce?

  God damn it, no.

• 1:22:01Speaker 02

  Do you think they got any mayonnaise in Moana too?