Summer S’pouses Episode 6: The Spouses Reunited

On the sixth and final Summer S’pouses, Conan, Sona, and Matt reunite with Liza, Tak, and Amanda for one final multi-matrimonial dialogue. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:02Conan O'Brien?

  Owning a car or home comes with responsibilities. Sure, it's fun, but sometimes it makes you wonder why you ever longed for adulthood in the first place. I do that all the time. I'm like, oh, these bills, these bills. What am I gonna do?

• 0:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:15Conan O'Brien?

  You know, when you own a house, you gotta fix it yourself. Sona, you see this to be true, right?

• 0:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, your garage door breaks, and you're like, well, I have to fix it.

• 0:22Conan O'Brien?

  Probably at first you said, hey, I'll get the super to fix it. It's your house, dude.

• 0:26Speaker 01

  It's mine, dude!

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• 0:39Speaker 01

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• 0:41Conan O'Brien?

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• 0:42Speaker 01

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• 0:43Conan O'Brien?

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• 0:46Speaker 02

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• 1:18Conan O'Brien?

  Summer Spouses with Conan O'Brien, Sona Mavssesian, and Matt Gourley. And Liza Powell O'Brien, Tac Baroyan, and Amanda Lund.

• 1:32Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, welcome to the sixth and sadly final episode of Summer Spouses. We're all getting divorced.

• 1:42Speaker 03

  But we're marrying each other's spouses.

• 1:44Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, exactly. This was just a long audio key party, is basically what it turned into.

• 1:49Speaker 03

  Keys on the mixer.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  There will be winners and there will be losers.

• 1:59Conan O'Brien?

  Everyone's immediately sizing up like, oh yeah, this could go well or horribly. And I know where I fit in that equation. This has been fantastic. I heard this idea, and Matt, I want to give you credit. You had this concept, and I thought, wait a minute. That both frightens me and intrigues me. And I have to say, I've been blown away. A little frightened for my job. Because Liza, Amanda, Tac, you guys killed it today. Really great. It was really nice. And I have to say that because Liza is my ride home.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  And after that, nothing.

• 2:39Conan O'Brien?

  After that, nothing. So, here we are. We've just had this incredibly intense experience. And you'd think we'd tape these all in one day. But no, that's not how we work. For authenticity, we've been slaving over this for as many weeks as it takes to air six episodes, which by my count is six weeks.

• 2:59Speaker 03

  And we've not changed our clothes for six weeks.

• 3:01Conan O'Brien?

  We haven't changed our clothes. No.

• 3:03Speaker 01

  A little right. Community.

• 3:04Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I remember it. I was a real stickler for that. Everyone wore the same clothes. And this has been, you know, it's just an unusual thing to do. We must, so how did everybody feel about it? Tac, how did you feel about this experience? Were you worried going in? Did it work out the way you'd like it to? Go ahead.

• 3:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was nervous, but you know, as soon as I got in, like, you make people feel comfortable. So, immediately I was just like, alright, it's Cone Zone, you know?

• 3:33Speaker 01

  And your wife was in the room.

• 3:34Speaker 03

  Oh, and of course her.

• 3:37Conan O'Brien?

  I want to say something you always call me.

• 3:38Speaker 03

  I was getting to you. Sorry.

• 3:40Conan O'Brien?

  You always call me Coney and Cone Zone.

• 3:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:43Conan O'Brien?

  And I can tell Sona doesn't like it.

• 3:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:45Conan O'Brien?

  She'll be like, don't call him that, don't call him that. And I'm always like, why can't he call me Coney and Cone Zone? What's wrong with that?

• 3:51Speaker 01

  I like you guys being friends, but I don't like you being, like, bros.

• 3:55Conan O'Brien?

  Right.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  I don't want, I don't want the bros. It's like why I don't want you and Danny to be friends.

• 4:00Conan O'Brien?

  That's your brother Danny. I'm just gonna explain.

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like my two mentors.

• 4:03Conan O'Brien?

  Not Danny McBride, but your brother Danny.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. It's like my two, it's, you know, I just feel like.

• 4:07Conan O'Brien?

  It's too much. You want me kept at a distance.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  I just, yeah, I'm like, yes.

• 4:10Conan O'Brien?

  And for that reason, I want to become your best friend in the whole world. I want to be by you every day.

• 4:15Speaker 03

  I am game, my friend. Let's do it.

• 4:17Conan O'Brien?

  Amanda, you came into this, you are polished, you're a pro. What surprised you? Did this go pretty much the way you thought it would?

• 4:26Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, it felt very professional.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  That is surprising.

• 4:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:33Conan O'Brien?

  That never happens.

• 4:34Speaker 04

  And very concise, you know? It didn't feel like there's a lot of fat on the bone. So, and that's a testament to the pro.

• 4:41Conan O'Brien?

  I love how because your husband edits this podcast, you're thinking about it from an editing point of view.

• 4:45Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 4:46Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, he doesn't have to do much work on these. He can help a little more.

• 4:51Speaker 03

  She knows how to turn me on.

• 4:57Conan O'Brien?

  Liza, I told you a couple of days ago, starting six weeks before that,

• 5:04Conan O'Brien?

  to maintain my pointless lie.

• 5:08Conan O'Brien?

  I said, there's this concept, what do you think? And you went, okay. You were very chill. What did you think? And how did it compare to?

• 5:17Speaker 01

  I think it helps that I did this once before when I came on to promote my podcast, which was very kind of everyone to pitch in that way. And so I had sort of gotten a feel of it a little bit, which put me very much to Tac's point. Like, it's an easy room to be in. You guys make it easy. So, you know, I think it pretty much went as I expected.

• 5:41Conan O'Brien?

  So there are no shocking revelations?

• 5:43Speaker 01

  Not yet. I mean, there's still some time.

• 5:45Conan O'Brien?

  Well, that's what we have this show for.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. Bring it on. Surprise me.

• 5:50Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, it is.

• 5:51Speaker 03

  For once in your life.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 5:54Conan O'Brien?

  For once in your life.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  We're 26 years in. It's gotta, like, please, something.

• 5:59Speaker 03

  It is kinda like, these three are more chill than the Chill Chums.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  They really are. Yes. Who are the Chill Chums?

• 6:08Speaker 01

  I guess that answers that question.

• 6:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true.

• 6:10Conan O'Brien?

  I'm telling you, Liza does not listen to the podcast.

• 6:13Speaker 01

  Apparently not.

• 6:14Conan O'Brien?

  And also, I don't think really views any of my work, and I'm going to tell you, I'm being serious here. My family, you know, doesn't gather round and watch the travel shows or old Conan clips. That just doesn't happen. And I think it's for the best.

• 6:33Speaker 03

  That's probably good.

• 6:33Speaker 01

  I think that's healthy. Wouldn't it be weird if, like, Liza was a super fan?

• 6:37Speaker 03

  Right.

• 6:37Speaker 01

  Because, I mean. I've asked him that before. I said, wouldn't you lose some respect for me if I was sick of Fanfic? And he said, no, I would love it.

• 6:46Conan O'Brien?

  I would love it.

• 6:46Speaker 01

  I wish that you were my biggest fan on the planet. I was like, oh, well.

• 6:50Conan O'Brien?

  I wish Liza dressed up as the FedEx Pope.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  Oh my god!

• 6:57Conan O'Brien?

  That's weird in nine different ways.

• 6:59Speaker 01

  Yeah!

• 7:00Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I mean, we really aren't, that's not our relationship. That's not our family's relationship to each other. It is almost like I go and work at an insurance company. And when people recognize me on the street or in a restaurant, there's kind of a huh, huh, ugh. Well, anyway, let's get on. Let's have that veal parmigiana. Yeah, exactly. See if you can catch up. So.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  I have seen some of the travel shows.

• 7:29Conan O'Brien?

  Thank you.

• 7:31Speaker 01

  I keep meaning to finish watching the rest before the film comes out.

• 7:35Speaker 03

  You know what? Anthony Bourdain.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  Danny Tucci!

• 7:39Conan O'Brien?

  She's watched the Tucci ones like nine times. And she can't get enough Eva Longoria.

• 7:44Speaker 01

  She's a big Tucci head.

• 7:46Conan O'Brien?

  She loves it when famous, beautiful people bite into something and go, oh my god!

• 7:51Speaker 01

  That's really what I'm there for.

• 7:53Conan O'Brien?

  That doesn't happen on my shows. No, it's for the best. I think it's for the best that you're not a fan, or what movie you've seen, you're not interested in seeing more. But, anyone take the lead here? Because, first of all, it's very hard to direct this because it feels very organic and real, and I don't want to direct it. So, I don't know if, Sona, if you have something you'd like to say, or Matt, you guys want to, you mean, we were all back there watching the segment from a week ago.

• 8:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, was it weird? Was it weird for you guys to watch Sona Says Yes? Yeah, it was weird.

• 8:27Conan O'Brien?

  I was loving it.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  I enjoyed it a lot.

• 8:29Conan O'Brien?

  But also, I think I found it, what I found interesting about it was how quickly it seemed.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  Normal?

• 8:33Conan O'Brien?

  Like, normal and good and viable. I was sitting in the room, I was seeing, Tanisha was there, and Sam, and Ruthie, and we were just watching it and I was laughing, and I was like, this is a really, I like this show. And then I realized, I'm not in it. Sona's not in it, Matt's not in it, and I like it better than our show.

• 8:53Speaker 03

  I turned to Sona and I said, how are they able to have a legitimate conversation like this?

• 8:58Speaker 01

  I know, you elevated this podcast.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  I know.

• 9:00Speaker 01

  We really take it down into the toilet.

• 9:02Conan O'Brien?

  How come no tyrant has shut it down with some cruel riff?

• 9:06Speaker 01

  It may have been lighter on the laughs, I will say. You know, like, we weren't really trafficking in the comedy so much.

• 9:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, but not everything has to be funny, you know?

• 9:15Conan O'Brien?

  What?

• 9:15Speaker 01

  I mean, it's like.

• 9:16Conan O'Brien?

  Horace Seele. You're going to get me fired. One of those, eh? One of those people who thinks sometimes a short silence between sentences is appropriate. Well, I haven't found that to be true.

• 9:32Speaker 01

  You're sick.

• 9:42Conan O'Brien?

  Did you know that one in four Americans targeted by scams end up falling for them? You fell for one.

• 9:47Speaker 05

  I fell for a scam.

• 9:48Conan O'Brien?

  Now, you didn't lose too much money, but you did lose.

• 9:51Speaker 05

  I did lose, and it was very inconvenient, and now they put protections on my account like I'm, uh, dumb.

• 9:56Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I don't know where they got that impression. Criminals are now using AI to make scams look more realistic than ever. In 2025, AI fraud spiked 1,210% and cost Americans $893 million. That's incredible. Well, with AI, it can get so smart now.

• 10:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 10:17Conan O'Brien?

  Do you know what I mean?

• 10:18Speaker 05

  Maybe I should start scamming.

• 10:19Conan O'Brien?

  No, that's not the point.

• 10:21Speaker 05

  Oh, no, that's not the point of this.

• 10:21Conan O'Brien?

  That's not the point.

• 10:22Speaker 05

  It's so much money.

• 10:23Conan O'Brien?

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• 10:32Speaker 05

  Right, right, right, right, right.

• 10:33Conan O'Brien?

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• 11:05Conan O'Brien?

  We all have those pieces in our closet we can count on. Sona, I imagine for you it's that leather jacket I got you.

• 11:10Speaker 05

  Are you gonna do a bit?

• 11:11Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, it's a really nice leather jacket I got you once.

• 11:13Speaker 05

  I had that, and then I replaced it, and yes, I use it all the time.

• 11:17Conan O'Brien?

  We all have that versatile jacket, the perfect t-shirt, and those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy. And you know what I was thinking about this morning?

• 11:26Speaker 05

  What?

• 11:27Conan O'Brien?

  Quince. They do it best. They really do. I was really thinking about this.

• 11:30Speaker 05

  What a coincidence that we're doing an ad for them.

• 11:32Conan O'Brien?

  No, a co- coincidence.

• 11:34Speaker 05

  Oh, no.

• 11:36Conan O'Brien?

  That's why I get the big money.

• 11:38Speaker 05

  I gotta go.

• 11:38Conan O'Brien?

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• 11:58Speaker 06

  That's right. I'm spending a lot of time back east in Michigan. It's getting a little colder, so I got a featherless quilted jacket in Atlas Navy, and I just feel like a different guy. I feel classy.

• 12:08Conan O'Brien?

  You look like a different guy, because you're well-dressed.

• 12:11Speaker 06

  That's right.

• 12:11Conan O'Brien?

  No, I'm serious. He looks like a hobo half the time.

• 12:13Speaker 06

  That's true. He's right. That's true.

• 12:15Conan O'Brien?

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• 12:28Speaker 05

  All right.

• 12:28Conan O'Brien?

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• 12:38Speaker 06

  Oh, I didn't really ask.

• 12:39Conan O'Brien?

  I just want you to know.

• 12:42Conan O'Brien?

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• 12:46Speaker 07

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• 13:12Speaker 02

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• 13:15Speaker 05

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• 13:51Speaker 03

  What was your final thought on this process?

• 13:54Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 13:54Speaker 05

  I mean, I like being on a mic. I like being on a video, like these guys.

• 14:00Conan O'Brien?

  Wait a minute, you don't care who it's with.

• 14:03Conan O'Brien?

  Well, the equipment seems adequate.

• 14:05Speaker 05

  I like it now, the house.

• 14:06Conan O'Brien?

  The room is a good size. This'll work. You guys seem to get the numbers.

• 14:13Conan O'Brien?

  I love that.

• 14:14Speaker 05

  I just haven't been out of the house in a while, so this has been so fun for me. I literally, this morning, I was like, "Well, guess I gotta go to the Nordstrom Rack, get a new t-shirt to wear."

• 14:26Speaker 03

  It is a nice shirt.

• 14:27Speaker 05

  This is a big day for me, because, you know, I've been in the baby cave, so.

• 14:31Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 14:31Speaker 05

  And where is she?

• 14:34Speaker 05

  She's here somewhere. I don't know.

• 14:36Conan O'Brien?

  I gave her a $20 bill, and she crawled down the street.

• 14:43Conan O'Brien?

  She's at Great White right now, ordering mimosas.

• 14:49Conan O'Brien?

  No, it's, uh... Well, what about you, Tac? You had a good time?

• 14:52Speaker 03

  I did, yeah. Actually, Sona sprung this on me like two days ago, something like that. Like, going on a podcast, I'm like, "What?" So I didn't really have...

• 15:00Speaker 05

  I said, "Would you like to go on the podcast?"

• 15:02Conan O'Brien?

  She said, "You're going."

• 15:03Speaker 03

  You're going on the podcast. You guys are the two on the Newlywood Game that would hit each other with the pillows.

• 15:08Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 15:08Speaker 03

  You remember?

• 15:09Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. "You're going on the podcast."

• 15:11Speaker 03

  "You're going on the podcast."

• 15:12Conan O'Brien?

  "And that's the way it is, or else you're gonna get a knuckle sandwich." Chat your keys in, yeah.

• 15:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I didn't have time to, like, get nervous about it a little. You know, I was just kinda like, "All right, here we go, here we go," you know? And we were flying back from Hawaii. It was a lot happening. I had a lot of time to think about what I was gonna say on the airplane, so it was all right. It wasn't bad.

• 15:34Speaker 04

  Did you get to say the things that you thought you'd get to say?

• 15:37Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, sure. It just depends on the questions, you know? But, yeah, I did all right. Don't you think I did all right?

• 15:46Conan O'Brien?

  You did great. What are you talking about? You killed it.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  I'm not used to this at all. This is like not my thing. Did either of the two of you? Because I wasn't nervous, and then the moment Amanda sat in the chair, I went, "Oh, this could go all wrong." This could go all wrong.

• 15:58Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, right.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, do you ever feel nervous when someone hands me a microphone? You should.

• 16:05Conan O'Brien?

  Especially when they're not supposed to. And you took the mic the last time I did the Oscars and just went off for 10 minutes.

• 16:12Conan O'Brien?

  But you killed it.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  Spousal rights.

• 16:14Conan O'Brien?

  Benicio del Toro was howling.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  That's my nightmare.

• 16:18Conan O'Brien?

  The, um... No, it's funny, because you told me when we first met, you had just previously spoken at a wedding for a friend, and there was a picture of you speaking, and you said that you were terrified and you hate that kind of thing. But every time in 26 years that I've seen you get up and speak in front of people, you're very poised, you're very natural, so I... The thing you told me upfront just hasn't borne out to be true.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  I'm a liar.

• 16:48Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, you're a liar. Yeah, yeah, and you don't have a... Come from great wealth? I found that out pretty quickly. Those portraits of your family aren't your family? No, so, yeah, you're very, uh... You just come to this very easily. And the same thing I say about Sona, you're yourself.

• 17:06Speaker 01

  Oh, that's good.

• 17:07Conan O'Brien?

  A little nicer, but mostly yourself.

• 17:11Speaker 05

  Was she nicer than me, or she's like nicer?

• 17:13Speaker 01

  Nicer than I usually am.

• 17:14Conan O'Brien?

  No, at home, she's very... She loves to tell me what the things like, "You know, it's a really good idea to keep that door shut." And I go, "Well, okay."

• 17:21Speaker 05

  I mean, it is a good idea to keep the door shut, so...

• 17:23Conan O'Brien?

  I like people from outside to come in. I like to talk to people, so sometimes I leave our front door open for a couple of days.

• 17:30Speaker 05

  How dare you, Liza.

• 17:31Conan O'Brien?

  And she's like, "Oh, we don't know who that is."

• 17:32Speaker 01

  The amount of times I've said in my head, like, "What's the non-bitchy way to ask someone to load their shit into the dishwasher?" And I can't come up with a good answer, and so then I end up doing it.

• 17:43Conan O'Brien?

  I grew up with a butler. His name was Cadbury. Oh, wait, that's Richie Rich.

• 17:52Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, no, uh, we're getting there. We're getting there. There's been improvement.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  It's fine.

• 17:56Conan O'Brien?

  There's been improvement.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  You have other strengths.

• 17:58Conan O'Brien?

  No, but... But has there not been improvement?

• 18:01Speaker 01

  Sure, yep.

• 18:02Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, all right.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  There has.

• 18:03Conan O'Brien?

  Sure.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  There has.

• 18:05Conan O'Brien?

  Or as my mother would say, "Shua, shua." She'd go, "Shua." Don't know what that means. Listen, this could be a big hit, and if this is a big hit, we're all going places. We could take this on the road. Can you imagine? Let's say that this caught on, and suddenly people were talking about, uh, you know, the Summer Spouses episodes, and then, you know, whoever, Sirius, steps in and says, "You guys gotta hit the road. There's big money in this." And it was all of us on a tour bus. How quickly would this go straight to shit?

• 18:37Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 18:39Speaker 03

  We're on the same tour bus, all six of us?

• 18:40Conan O'Brien?

  Same tour bus.

• 18:42Speaker 05

  I don't know. Who would get a really bad, like, coke habit?

• 18:47Conan O'Brien?

  That would be Liza.

• 18:49Speaker 05

  Classic Liza.

• 18:51Conan O'Brien?

  I would have a giant room on the bus. Liza would have one of those small beds, cots that the roadie sleeps in.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  And I would keep it neat as a pin.

• 19:01Conan O'Brien?

  Neat as a pin, yeah. And when I'm done with a dish, I would open my little door and toss it out into the aisle of the bus and then shut the door. And Liza would come down, "Oh, well, scrape, scrape, scrape."

• 19:13Speaker 05

  He has other strengths.

• 19:14Conan O'Brien?

  "We're gonna hit, we're gonna hit the road, gang. I think this is gonna be big."

• 19:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:17Speaker 01

  Only do it in the Partridge Family bus.

• 19:19Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. I say separate buses.

• 19:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:22Speaker 03

  Motley Crue style, you know? But like couples?

• 19:24Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, Motley Crue all has...

• 19:25Speaker 03

  No, just me and my own bus.

• 19:27Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, okay.

• 19:29Speaker 05

  And then me and the boys in a sedan.

• 19:31Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, no. The boys each get their own bus, each one.

• 19:37Conan O'Brien?

  How would... Your boy... I feel like your boys would take to the road very well.

• 19:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, they like traveling.

• 19:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, they do. They love hotels.

• 19:43Conan O'Brien?

  I think they would trash hotel rooms, throw TVs out the window.

• 19:46Speaker 05

  Trash everything, yeah.

• 19:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, they'd love, they love a... Good bus, they love a good hotel room, you know?

• 19:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, they love being on the road.

• 19:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:54Conan O'Brien?

  Gourley would always be in his bus crafting.

• 19:58Conan O'Brien?

  Building little liquor-related cabinets.

• 20:01Speaker 05

  Do you know how to crochet?

• 20:04Speaker 03

  He does, he for sure does.

• 20:05Speaker 05

  Do you know how to cross stitch?

• 20:06Speaker 03

  Well, cross stitching is easy.

• 20:09Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, don't insult him.

• 20:11Speaker 03

  One time, I learned to crochet with my grandma, but I don't remember how.

• 20:16Speaker 01

  It's so easy. You know how to crochet, right?

• 20:19Speaker 05

  Do I? I don't know. I don't know if I've ever.

• 20:20Speaker 03

  Why do you say it, though, like, like, I gotcha?

• 20:22Speaker 05

  Like, clearly, you know how to craft. Like, you have, like, a craft box.

• 20:27Speaker 03

  I thought you were gonna say I had a craft bod.

• 20:31Speaker 03

  You got a crafting body.

• 20:33Speaker 05

  What's a crafting bod?

• 20:35Speaker 03

  Like a dad bod, but a bod for someone that obviously just does crafting.

• 20:39Conan O'Brien?

  A guy who sits on a stool in the shed crafting. That's the body you have.

• 20:45Speaker 03

  And that is the body I have, yeah.

• 20:47Conan O'Brien?

  His ass is really atrophying.

• 20:50Speaker 05

  His dominant hand is really strong.

• 20:52Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, your knitting hand is incredibly articulated.

• 20:59Speaker 05

  Clearly, you craft.

• 21:00Speaker 03

  You crocheted for a little while, or you did something for a bit?

• 21:02Speaker 05

  I did something in the pandemic.

• 21:04Speaker 03

  We couldn't figure out what it was.

• 21:05Speaker 05

  I was desperate. It was sad. I was desperate.

• 21:07Conan O'Brien?

  Did you make something?

• 21:09Speaker 05

  I made a thing.

• 21:09Conan O'Brien?

  Pot holder is the coward's way out.

• 21:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was something. It was...

• 21:14Speaker 01

  Oh, my god!

• 21:15Conan O'Brien?

  I'm sorry. You just knit until you give up and you go, it's a pot holder. It goes between you. This strip will protect that same strip on your hand.

• 21:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, it wasn't anything to talk about on this podcast. How did we get here? I'm sorry, I just assumed Matt, like, crafted.

• 21:34Conan O'Brien?

  The stuff we made for our parents growing up, I see now, and what a load of shit. It's horrible. And I, you know, but it's that, it's that thing where, actually, I think the stuff our kids made looks pretty good.

• 21:46Speaker 01

  You have parent goggles on.

• 21:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, our kids made amazing things.

• 21:50Conan O'Brien?

  I just look at the stuff, and I look at the stuff like my brothers and I made, and I just say, this is awful. What a bunch of idiots.

• 21:58Speaker 05

  That's sweet they saved it all.

• 22:00Conan O'Brien?

  Um, well, I found it in the dumpster.

• 22:04Conan O'Brien?

  Just, my dad thought it was, they would take, it was a dumpster from 1967, and they just never came and emptied that one. Because I was in charge of getting it out. Well, this was, I think, I mean, I think we've, we've really done something here. I think what we've done is we've shown America that although we all have our differences, we can come together as one.

• 22:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 22:27Conan O'Brien?

  That's not at all what we did here.

• 22:28Speaker 05

  No, we didn't. You really went for the Scottish in the beginning of the series.

• 22:35Conan O'Brien?

  Six weeks ago.

• 22:35Speaker 01

  You came after my people.

• 22:36Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, six weeks ago, I went hard after the Scots.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  How's that gone for you?

• 22:41Conan O'Brien?

  That is a well-known trouble about the Scots, that they are frugal, yes?

• 22:44Speaker 01

  I've heard that.

• 22:45Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Oh, don't, you're afraid of getting canceled?

• 22:50Speaker 05

  I just don't trust my sources.

• 22:53Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, well, anyway.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  You don't trust my sources either.

• 22:57Conan O'Brien?

  No.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  Which is correct.

• 22:59Conan O'Brien?

  I will experience the same thing Liza experiences, and then I'll hear her telling the story later on, and I'm like, good god. How did it become this? But it's amazing. It's very creative.

• 23:11Conan O'Brien?

  For example, I always go to the dishwasher and close every door. I don't know where she came up with that. God bless us all.

• 23:18Speaker 05

  I was your assistant for a long time.

• 23:20Conan O'Brien?

  Excuse me? What's that?

• 23:21Speaker 05

  I'm saying I was your assistant for a long time.

• 23:23Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, for two years.

• 23:23Speaker 05

  And...

• 23:24Conan O'Brien?

  You worked as my assistant for much longer.

• 23:26Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 23:26Conan O'Brien?

  But you were my assistant for two years.

• 23:28Speaker 05

  All I can say is, I can back up what Liza's saying, which is, you do leaf shit places.

• 23:33Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah, I'm sure Picasso was a little messy.

• 23:35Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 23:36Conan O'Brien?

  Well, anyway, um, I just want to say, God bless us, God bless us everyone. What we did here was heroic over the last six weeks.

• 23:44Speaker 05

  What are you doing?

• 23:45Conan O'Brien?

  I'm trying to give this a big ending.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  Trying to land a plane.

• 23:48Conan O'Brien?

  I'm trying to land this plane, and here's the thing about me, I will land it, but then take off and try and land it again. And...

• 23:54Speaker 03

  You're like a reverse Sully.

• 23:55Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I'm a reverse Sullenberger. I will get it up out of the Hudson, and then I will crash into the Hudson again. But I just want to say that this has been a wonderful experience. I want to thank you all for being here. And I want to end it one more time.

• 24:10Speaker 05

  Oh, my god!

• 24:11Conan O'Brien?

  What have we really done? And what haven't we done? But I think we did learn a lesson, and that lesson was, despite who we might be, we could always be together and someone else. Good night, and have a good tomorrow. And now I end this.

• 24:32Speaker 03

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• 24:52Speaker 03

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• 25:51Speaker 05

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• 25:51Conan O'Brien?

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• 25:51Speaker 05

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• 25:56Speaker 05

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  No, but maybe...

• 26:00Conan O'Brien?

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• 26:02Speaker 05

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