Pod Insights Handsome Pretty Little Episode #28 About this episode Fortune and Tig chat about hot dog costumes and memorable side hustles on today's Pretty Little Episode!
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2:16 Fortune Feimster? Pretty little episode.
2:18 Tig Notaro? It surprised me again.
2:20 Fortune Feimster? Welcome to our pretty little episode. I'm your host for today, Fortune Feimster.
2:25 Tig Notaro? I'm also your host for today, Tig Notaro.
2:28 Fortune Feimster? And we're also your hoes for the day. What?
2:32 Tig Notaro? Fortune Marie. Did you just call us hoes?
2:36 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, for the day.
2:38 Tig Notaro? Oh, my gosh, that is, that is really dirty. Okay? That is some dirty talk and it's, it's not going to be happening when I'm involved. Okay?
2:52 Fortune Feimster? You like that? You like it when I talk like that?
2:54 Tig Notaro? Fortune Marie. No, I don't. I would like to keep our relationship friendly and professional.
3:02 Fortune Feimster? I apologize, my friend, but you do look very beautiful today.
3:07 Tig Notaro? Thank you. I have on my flannel. This is my lesbian outfit. I love a flannel. Thomas has one on too.
3:14 Fortune Feimster? Mm hmm.
3:15 Tig Notaro? I don't know who to choose. So, um, what is going on?
3:21 Fortune Feimster? You know, life.
3:23 Tig Notaro? Still the aftermath of the fires going on.
3:26 Fortune Feimster? Mm hmm.
3:27 Tig Notaro? We, I don't know if I told you, we have some people moving into our office.
3:31 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
3:32 Tig Notaro? And, um, we got a text again today, seeing if there is more room or space anywhere. Yeah, a lot going on. Are you somebody that would be like, I'm done with all of the risks here in LA? I'm getting out. Or are you like, I'm staying. This is my place.
3:49 Fortune Feimster? I'm staying. It's my place. But I don't, I mean, I don't know how I would feel.
3:54 Tig Notaro? Mm hmm.
3:55 Fortune Feimster? If I lived in that community and your entire community is gone.
3:59 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
4:00 Fortune Feimster? I would be probably.
4:03 Fortune Feimster? Hesitant to rebuild.
4:05 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
4:06 Fortune Feimster? Being in that um in that area that is prone to fire. You hope that that's a an outlier, that it's something that wouldn't happen again, but Malibu is right adjacent to Palisades and it's always being evacuated, so.
4:28 Fortune Feimster? Start over there.
4:31 Tig Notaro? But people will.
4:33 Fortune Feimster? People certainly will because they love it so much. It's near the ocean, it's gorgeous, and they really have a a beautiful community there.
4:41 Tig Notaro? Yeah, I get texts every now and then from Stephanie of like the migration from LA to New York and all of that.
4:52 Tig Notaro? I think everywhere, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, New York City, upstate New York. But all that really started in the pandemic as well. Wanting a little more space and whatever. Yeah, we have moments where we're like, eh, maybe we'll head out and then yeah, we have those moments, but also we have our kids who are so happy in their school. They love our house. They love, you know, their baseball and basketball leagues and so we need to always be considering many different people.
5:35 Tig Notaro? But I'm flexible. Like if Stephanie was like, let's go, I'd be like, all right, let's go. Yeah, yeah.
5:42 Fortune Feimster? I've never lived in the Northeast. I am not a cold weather gal. So that would be my hesitation.
5:50 Tig Notaro? You like to show off your gams.
5:52 Fortune Feimster? I know. I like to be in my mini skirts.
5:57 Fortune Feimster? And letting these legs fly in the sunshine. Um, I've just, I've lived in LA for 21 years, so it's just so what I'm used to now.
6:08 Tig Notaro? Yeah, same. I had no interest in moving to LA and then my childhood friends moved there and then I, because we grew up together and moved everywhere, you know, they all went to college and I just followed them around uh, smoking and then um, and then they moved to LA and I came with them and I just thought, oh, I'll be here for six months and then I'll leave.
6:33 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
6:34 Tig Notaro? Um, but then I started doing stand up and I got bolted to the ground and uh, and ended up loving it.
6:43 Fortune Feimster? Mm hmm.
6:44 Tig Notaro? And then I think when we had kids was when I started to see the city a little differently.
6:50 Fortune Feimster? Mm hmm.
6:51 Tig Notaro? And started to think, oh, you know, it'd be nice if they had more space to play and could just get on their bikes and that whole thing, but then they started to have opinions of their own and we're like, we like it here.
7:08 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
7:09 Tig Notaro? And Stephanie's whole family, they're all in California and you know.
7:13 Fortune Feimster? That's nice.
7:14 Tig Notaro? Yeah, but yeah, I was just curious if you were having your thoughts.
7:18 Fortune Feimster? I'm here, I'm here for, for now. I don't know. We've mentioned other places like during that time in the pandemic when everybody else did of like, what about this place or this place? And then we'd visit that place for a few days and they'll be like, no.
7:34 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
7:35 Fortune Feimster? Um, so I don't know.
7:36 Tig Notaro? It's also easy to think, oh, I'll just leave and then you think, are the restaurants gonna be as good? Is the social life gonna be as good, the entertainment, you know, your social network, all of that.
7:54 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, there is something magical about LA that's, I mean, the city's changed a lot since the pandemic, so there are definitely. Cons, but there are a lot of pros too. And the magical part of LA is like, how many times I've kind of pinched myself in a situation where I was like, I can't believe I'm at this table with this person. You just have these moments that are surreal out here. Cause it's connected to the industry or people you've admired or, you know. So you, you end up having these kind of magical nights here and there that you're just like,
8:34 Fortune Feimster? if I told my, you know, 15 year old self that I'd be in this place, doing this thing with these people, I would never believe it.
8:44 Tig Notaro? Uh huh. You'd think you were a liar.
8:46 Fortune Feimster? Mm hmm.
8:48 Tig Notaro? And now you've become somebody that people would be like, I was at dinner with Fortune theme star last night.
8:55 Fortune Feimster? Look at that.
8:56 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
8:57 Fortune Feimster? Look at that.
8:58 Tig Notaro? Coming full circle.
9:00 Fortune Feimster? And she asked if I was gonna finish my steak or my baked potato.
9:06 Tig Notaro? And she didn't wait for an answer.
9:08 Fortune Feimster? And she just started eating it.
9:10 Tig Notaro? She just swiped the things.
9:12 Fortune Feimster? Should we get to some questions?
9:15 Tig Notaro? I think we should. That's what we're here to do.
9:18 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, it is.
9:19 Speaker 04 This question comes from Tori.
9:21 Speaker 05 Hey, handsome. Super love you guys. I am sitting here with my sweet little fur baby Roxanne and we have a question for you. I often listen to you guys when I am doing my side gig. So my question is, what is the craziest, silliest, most fun thing that you ever did before you were so handsomely successful to make money? Can't wait to hear answers.
9:48 Fortune Feimster? I think this was pretty fun. For my first seven years in Los Angeles, I was an entertainment journalist.
9:55 Tig Notaro? Hmm.
9:56 Fortune Feimster? It started in 2003. I had a job and the person I was working for, her neighbor, heard, she's like, I heard you can write. Would you be interested in like going to movie premieres or parties around town? And just writing up a blurb for, for me. She wrote for the LA Daily News. And I was like,
10:19 Tig Notaro? Like little old me?
10:21 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, I was like, that sounds cool. I was like 23 years old, just moved to LA and. I was like, I get to go to movie premieres. That's cool. So.
10:30 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
10:31 Fortune Feimster? Um, I just kind of learned, I, I went with her to a, uh, two events, kind of saw how she did it. And just kind of like taught myself how to be a journalist. And um, did that for a while. Uh, I think I helped her for like a year and then. These other write, uh, this other column was looking for part-time help and. She gave them my information and I started working for them part-time. So that, that part-time job ended up leading to a full-time job for them. Uh, so for, for that whole time, I started going to all these events and award shows and I interviewed people on the phone and.
11:13 Fortune Feimster? Got to interview like really amazing performers and directors and writers and went to sets and went to the Oscars and the Grammys and. The Emmys and was in the press room and, um, it was, if I wanted to be a journalist, that would have been like, oh, I've made it.
11:31 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
11:31 Fortune Feimster? I just knew it wasn't what I wanted full-time. I was pursuing comedy at night, but. The people I wrote for were really supportive and knew I had this dream and. So they, you know, my job was what paid my bills and, and it was really rewarding, but then they also were very supportive of me. Pursuing comedy, so it was pretty perfect. And then that went until two thousand ten and then the newspapers. We wrote for like a hundred newspapers, um, and online and the newspaper started folding. So they had the, they didn't have the money to pay, to pay me anymore. So it kind of came to an end.
12:11 Fortune Feimster? Just because of that and, um, that's kind of what gave me the, like, leaving the nest. To, to pursue comedy full-time.
12:21 Tig Notaro? And so you were starting to feel like, oh, I want to try stand-up?
12:24 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, I, I started Groundlings in two thousand five, um, first and then stand-up in two thousand seven. And in two thousand ten was, um, when I. Stopped being a journalist and I did Last Comic Standing and then two thousand eleven is when I got Chelsea Lately.
12:42 Tig Notaro? Okay.
12:42 Fortune Feimster? So it was a, it was a great job. I have so many, I had so many cool experiences that I got to do. And talk to like, my first person I ever interviewed on the phone was Betty White. Um, I got to talk to so many amazing people.
13:02 Tig Notaro? And so a- as a journalist, was that um, a decent living?
13:07 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, I mean, it didn't pay um, for someone who didn't grow up with money. It, I made basically kind of what a teacher makes. So it wasn't like extravagant, but I could pay my bills.
13:20 Tig Notaro? That's cool.
13:21 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
13:27 Tig Notaro? Yeah, I love music and I play guitar and drums, but very, a very basic musician. And I didn't feel comfortable on stage doing that. I tried a few times, but I was like, oh God. Like I just, it's so weird that I can do stand up, but when I played guitar on stage, I was so nervous and uncomfortable. Like my hands would be trembling. But I wanted to be around the world of music. And so um, my girlfriend at the time had a band. And I started managing and booking her band. Oh, cool.
14:10 Tig Notaro? Yeah, so uh, and that led to me meeting people at record labels and I would be hired uh, as like a independent promoter for different bands that were coming through uh, different cities. And yeah, the music world, that was, it was, it was fun. And I, I started working with a couple of other bands as well. And booking them. And I think actually, working in that world made me, it really helped me with my career as a comedian, because I realized that, you know, so many people, when they start out.
14:48 Tig Notaro? They're like, why am I not getting that job? Or I want this, or I want that manager, agent, or whatever. And what I realized through working with bands was you have to do so much of your own work to get yourself to a certain point to make yourself appealing to people and places that want to work with you.
15:12 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
15:13 Tig Notaro? So I just put my head down for the longest time. I didn't like worry about reps or, you know, managers, agents, anything like that. I was just like, I need to get good at stand up. And then, once I have something to present to somebody, then, then I'll go for it.
15:32 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
15:32 Tig Notaro? But, but it was really fun at the time to hop in the tour van with my girlfriend or my, the other bands that I was friends with too, and just go on tour and, and act like a hard-nosed manager.
15:50 Fortune Feimster? Were you good at acting like a hard-nosed manager?
15:52 Tig Notaro? I feel like I was good at the job, you know? I mean, I wasn't really a hard-nosed, but I was like, I mean, I probably came across as hard-nosed because when I was much younger, I was so surrounded by my shell of protection that I probably seemed, I was probably a little off-putting or hard to approach. So that kind of folded into, yeah, I'm a hard-nosed manager, but not really if you talk to me.
16:21 Fortune Feimster? Right.
16:22 Tig Notaro? You know, I'm just scared and wounded. That's why my face looks angry.
16:30 Tig Notaro? But yeah, so, so that worked to my advantage.
16:34 Fortune Feimster? Oh, that's cool.
16:37 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
16:37 Fortune Feimster? It's like we had these other lifetimes.
16:40 Tig Notaro? Yeah, and it's also funny because, you know, having that job, it made me realize that people in those jobs can just wake up one day and be like, I'm a manager. You know? I'm an agent.
16:56 Fortune Feimster? We talk about that all the time, that there's so many jobs, especially in LA, that people just decide they're that thing.
17:02 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
17:03 Fortune Feimster? And it requires no education or skill or experience.
17:07 Tig Notaro? Experience.
17:09 Fortune Feimster? I'm this now.
17:11 Tig Notaro? Yeah, I'm a, yeah, I'm a manager. And, and, and it works for a lot of people. But, but having had that job, it really made me realize, like, I know what's behind the curtain. And, and I woke up one day and said, I'm a manager. And so, uh, but yeah, there's, there's really great managers that woke up one day and said, I'm a manager.
17:37 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
17:38 Tig Notaro? And then there are others that are not. Yeah. But, um, but yeah, that, I mean, it's the same with a comedian. Like, I, I woke up one day and said, I'm a comedian.
17:49 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
17:50 Tig Notaro? So many jobs in this industry don't need anything. Except, uh, you know, you work on stuff for a little while, get your bearings and you're off to the races. And I think that's probably why it appeals to somebody like myself with a seventh grade education. Okay, should we hear, um, Tori's answer?
18:10 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
18:11 Speaker 05 So my answer is, many years ago, as a young, young lady, I used to have to dress up as a hot dog and host children's birthday parties. It was not my finest moment. I definitely needed money, but you know what? A hundred dollars a party is a hundred dollars a party.
18:31 Fortune Feimster? What's up?
18:32 Speaker 05 Even dressed as a hot dog.
18:34 Tig Notaro? Super love you guys. Thank you for the uplifting content every week. Have the most wonderful 2025.
18:41 Fortune Feimster? You too, Tori.
18:43 Tig Notaro? Yeah, Tori in the bun.
18:46 Fortune Feimster? I don't think I ever got invited to a birthday party where someone was dressed as a hot dog.
18:51 Tig Notaro? Really? That's the only ones I go to, Fortune. I'm gonna get you a hot dog for your next birthday party.
18:59 Tig Notaro? Maybe we could reach out to Tori. Um, I wonder if she still fits into her hot dog costume. All right, let's see, uh, what else do we have, uh, Mr. Thomas?
19:09 Speaker 06 Hi, Handsoms. My name is Kathy and I am calling you from Newfoundland, Canada. And my question is, do you have a specific phrase or word that you realized as an adult you have been saying wrong your whole life? I'll give you an example. My husband did not find out until he was about 28 years old that a grapefruit is not a great fruit. He thought it was a G R E A T fruit. Because it was bigger than the other fruits.
19:37 Fortune Feimster? A grapefruit.
19:38 Tig Notaro? I love how she uses an example of her hu- oh, oh, I guess we're gonna find out later what hers is. Oh, okay. I thought she was like this guy, huh? I, I mean, right away, it reminded me of when I was a kid, I thought, you know, dress code. You have to wear a certain dress coat, or there's a certain dress code. I thought it was dress coat.
20:00 Fortune Feimster? Oh, yeah. Ad- adhere to the dress coat.
20:03 Tig Notaro? Yeah, adhere to the dress coat.
20:05 Fortune Feimster? There's like phrase, phrases that sometimes I get, like I, I, people say I could care less or I couldn't care less. It's I couldn't care less, right?
20:17 Tig Notaro? Cause you're at the bottom. There's no room to care more.
20:21 Fortune Feimster? But, but a lot of times people will say, I could.
20:23 Tig Notaro? Or no, there's room to care more. There's absolutely no room to care less.
20:27 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, that one's always confusing for me.
20:30 Tig Notaro? Well, I just picture it in like a, um, like a tub of caring.
20:36 Tig Notaro? And you're, you're at the very bottom and underneath that, there's no, no.
20:41 Fortune Feimster? There's no room.
20:42 Tig Notaro? There's also phrases where I'm like, what the hell does that mean?
20:47 Tig Notaro? I say it correctly, but I'm like, what is by and large?
20:52 Fortune Feimster? By and large.
20:53 Tig Notaro? You know, like by and large.
20:56 Fortune Feimster? In and, in and of itself.
20:58 Tig Notaro? Yes. Yes. It's that kind of thing. By and large.
21:03 Fortune Feimster? By and large really doesn't make sense.
21:06 Tig Notaro? No. Whenever somebody says that, I'm like, by and large. Okay.
21:12 Fortune Feimster? By and large.
21:13 Tig Notaro? By and large.
21:15 Fortune Feimster? My mom's been on me. I don't, I don't say this one because my mom's, is a grammar police and she's drilled this into my head forever.
21:23 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
21:24 Fortune Feimster? Um, but irregardless is not a word.
21:26 Tig Notaro? Hmm. Mm hmm.
21:27 Fortune Feimster? So if you say irregardless, stop.
21:32 Tig Notaro? There's a comedian a long time ago, Freddie Soto. He passed away. He was a, a comedy store comedian and he had a, a whole bit on irregardless.
21:46 Fortune Feimster? Really?
21:46 Tig Notaro? Yeah. Yeah. He was famous for his irregardless bit.
21:50 Fortune Feimster? Funny. I'll have to look it up.
21:52 Tig Notaro? Well, an ex of mine used to always say Chester drawers rather than chest of drawers. She'd be like, put that in my Chester drawers.
22:01 Fortune Feimster? That's funny.
22:02 Tig Notaro? That is not what that's called.
22:04 Fortune Feimster? I really don't know if I have, oh, I'm sure there's words that I've not used correctly or mispronounced, but.
22:11 Tig Notaro? Oh, I know. I know. I know mine. I was doing my very first podcast, which was very many years ago, and I was just casually chatting. And I said, oh, careful. You don't want to tump that over. And, uh, my co-hosts were like.
22:31 Tig Notaro? I'm sorry, what did you say? And I was like, oh, you know, you just want to make sure you don't tump that over. And, uh, and they're like, tump, what, like, that's not a word. What are you talking about? And I was like, yeah, it is. But it, I don't know if it's same from where you come from, but it's southern dialect.
22:48 Fortune Feimster? Mm hmm.
22:48 Tig Notaro? Um, to, uh, to tump is to knock something over. Um, and I didn't find out until I was probably late 30s that tump was not a word.
23:02 Fortune Feimster? It's not a word.
23:04 Tig Notaro? What about you? Did you grow up saying tump?
23:07 Fortune Feimster? Never heard tump.
23:08 Tig Notaro? Wow.
23:09 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
23:10 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
23:11 Fortune Feimster? Cause normally I do know some of those random southern phrases.
23:15 Tig Notaro? Well, I also say, wasn't, I wasn't gonna do it.
23:19 Fortune Feimster? Wouldn't.
23:20 Tig Notaro? Or it doesn't, it doesn't matter.
23:22 Fortune Feimster? Mm hmm. I say it doesn't matter.
23:24 Tig Notaro? Yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't gonna do it. Another person I dated used to say, I feel like I'm dating, uh, George Bush Jr.
23:34 Tig Notaro? Uh-uh, wasn't gonna do it. Wasn't gonna do it.
23:38 Fortune Feimster? Wasn't gonna do it.
23:39 Tig Notaro? Wasn't gonna do it. Gonna tump that over. Um, all right, let's hear, uh, Kathy's answer.
23:47 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
23:48 Speaker 06 I thought that when you hauled off and punched somebody really hard, it was called a soccer punch, like a soccer ball was hitting them. I did not know it was called a sucker punch until I was way too old to learn new information. So that's my answer. I love the podcast. Love all of you. Cheers.
24:06 Tig Notaro? We love you too, Kathy and Tori. What great listeners we have.
24:11 Fortune Feimster? We sure do.
24:12 Tig Notaro? Yes, we do.
24:13 Fortune Feimster? Get us thinking.
24:14 Tig Notaro? Mm hmm. Yes. Wasn't gonna do it at first. But, uh, anyway, submit your questions.
24:22 Fortune Feimster? By these questions.
24:23 Tig Notaro? Yeah, yeah. These questions really tumped us right over. Submit your questions at speakpipe.com/handsomepod. That is speakpipe.com/handsomepod.
24:37 Tig Notaro? And really get into your handsome brains and pull out some interesting, weird, obscure kind of questions.
24:46 Fortune Feimster? Hit us with your best shot.
24:47 Tig Notaro? That's right. And always check out my website if you want to see what I'm up to or where I'm out in a boot.
24:55 Fortune Feimster? Mm hmm. Out and about Newfoundland.
24:57 Tig Notaro? That's right. Give anything to say before we wrap this up?
25:02 Fortune Feimster? Just appreciate everybody that gives us questions. It's fun to hear from you guys. And yeah, I'm on the road too. Go to my website. Come see a show. Buy some merch at thehandsomepod.com.
25:14 Tig Notaro? Yeah.
25:15 Fortune Feimster? And until then.
25:18 Tig Notaro? Keep it pretty handsome.
25:21 Fortune Feimster? Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and Mae Martin. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Woolett. Email us at [email protected] and follow us on social media at HandsomePod. What a podcast. What a podcast.
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