AS MUCH SOUP AS YOU WANT Ft. Taylor Tomlinson | Episode 210

Making her return after the infamous Teletubby Halloween episode, Taylor Tomlinson is back on the show this week!! Drew and Taylor talk bad tattoo ideas, their 2016 fashion choices, romance book tropes, Glee lore, reviving the Souplantation restaurant chain, getting fired over a tweet, and so much more. Taylor’s special Prodigal Daughter is out now on Netflix! Taylor IG: https://www.instagram.com/taylortomlinson/ Taylor Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@taylortomlinsoncomedy?lang=en Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en eBay is the place for pre-loved and vintage fashion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:29Drew Afualo?

  God, I hate it when you're in a photo shoot and they go, "Do like confident, like, like I'm, like I'm the boss." And it's always a male photographer. And I'm in charge. And like maybe do to the side a little bit. And then, and then put your hands on your hips, kind of like attitude. Gimme, let's do an attitude one.

• 0:55Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show. Sorry, me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest today. We have an iconic all-star, one of your guys' faves, and one of mine, the one, the only Taylor Tomlinson. Oh, that's so nice. Thanks for clapping. That was really lovely. I'm not on tour right now. Needed that. Needed that so bad. Thanks for showing up now. A little late. This episode is presented to you by eBay. Tell me if I'm alone here, but shopping used to feel more fun before all the algorithm fed blah and endless sea of dupes. But I have a confession. I've found that fun feeling again on eBay.

• 1:39Drew Afualo?

  It's not mindless scrolling. It's a fashion pursuit. And when you score that rare sneaker or the bag you've been manifesting, it's a rush. eBay has millions of pre-loved finds from hundreds of brands backed by eBay Authenticity Guarantee. eBay, things people love. Oh, my God, I'm so happy to have you back. I'm so excited to be back. I'm so glad you could see my amazing figure outside of the Teletubby costume. Truly, I almost came in costume because I felt so bad last time I was on the Halloween.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Halloween episode.

• 2:10Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  And I showed up and you like really did it. You were full blown, was it tinky winky?

• 2:16Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  Full blown tinky winky and I was like, fuck, I really should have done something. And you gave me some shit for it rightfully.

• 2:24Drew Afualo?

  I did, yes.

• 2:25Speaker 02

  And I felt bad about it. I still do.

• 2:27Drew Afualo?

  No worries.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  I still feel bad about it.

• 2:28Drew Afualo?

  It's okay. I think it was a bonding moment for us.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  It was. I should have come dressed as La La though.

• 2:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, here. Or you're just wearing the exact same, but then you come in, I'm dressed like you. And then it was flying the plane. But I'm so happy to have you back. I've missed you.

• 2:42Speaker 02

  I've missed you.

• 2:42Drew Afualo?

  What have you been up to?

• 2:43Speaker 02

  You know what's so funny is I, because of social media, I just always feel like, I'm like, well, I saw you yesterday.

• 2:49Drew Afualo?

  Same, same.

• 2:50Speaker 02

  This is my second time ever seeing you in person. And I'm like, well, we were talking yesterday.

• 2:54Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  One-sided conversation, just you talking to me. Cause I've been listening to your audiobook, which is great.

• 2:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God. Thank you. I'm honored.

• 3:01Speaker 02

  Here's how I know your book's successful. It's at every airport. You know that?

• 3:05Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I did.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Every, every layover. I'm like, there's true.

• 3:07Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:08Drew Afualo?

  I'm in a lot of Hudson's. That is true. Thank you.

• 3:11Speaker 02

  It's a really good cover.

• 3:12Drew Afualo?

  Real like, uh, what do you call it? Showstopping.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  It is. It is. Did you have a lot of say in the cover?

• 3:17Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I did.

• 3:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:18Drew Afualo?

  They sent me like different mockups, cause I like was very particular about the design of it. Because at first I was trying to do just my middle finger on the cover with my tattoos, which I thought would be funny.

• 3:28Speaker 02

  That would have been cool.

• 3:29Drew Afualo?

  But then they said like, it could prevent it from being sold in stores, cause that's considered vulgar. So they really wanted my face on it, but I didn't want to do like a kind of picture.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  Right.

• 3:38Drew Afualo?

  So I thought, oh, covering my mouth would be cool, cause it's like tongue in cheek, cause it's called loud, blah, blah, blah.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  It was really cool. And with the tattoos, like if you have cool tattoos, you gotta, like, I want tattoos so bad, but I don't feel that I have the vibe for it.

• 3:51Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 3:52Speaker 02

  I feel like if I got tattoos, everyone would be like, really bitch? You?

• 3:57Drew Afualo?

  Now you wanna start?

• 3:58Speaker 02

  Now you wanna start? And also, all of my ideas are always stupid and bad.

• 4:02Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 4:03Speaker 02

  Like, I thought it would be funny because I was talking to my friend Sophie and we were like, oh, we need to, when we're on planes, we're on so many flights, we need to read. We need to stop like watching Netflix and just like, unless it's my special prodigal daughter out February 24th.

• 4:17Drew Afualo?

  In case it's, unless it's that.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  Unless it's that.

• 4:19Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 4:20Speaker 02

  But I'm like, we gotta stop watching TV shows. We gotta remember to just like read on the plane. And we had been talking about like, oh, we should get matching tattoos. And I was like, what if we got just like read on the plane? On our wrist to remind us and she was like, no.

• 4:34Drew Afualo?

  She's like, let's keep workshopping.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  She's like, that's not great. And I'm like, but it would be so funny.

• 4:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're like.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  It would be such a good bit.

• 4:41Drew Afualo?

  That's perfect. Let's get the bad ideas out of the way.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's like, you first. And then we'll work on mine.

• 4:47Drew Afualo?

  And whatever you say, no, and then we'll move on to a good idea.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly. I always want matching tattoos also. I'm like too scared to do one by myself. So I'm like, there's like four people in my life that I'm like, matching?

• 4:58Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, I'm a fan. My siblings and I have sibling tattoos.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, see?

• 5:02Drew Afualo?

  All three of us. And, and I will say too, not to foster your whimsy a little too hard, but we also tattooed a bit on our, on ourselves. Me and my siblings.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  You did? What's a bit?

• 5:11Drew Afualo?

  Technically, it is a bit, but like my dad's very first tattoo was like a little stick and poke in someone. It says a hundred percent someone. And it's really small and it's on his big ass shoulder and it's literally like half an inch long. He hates it. It's like the worst tattoo. He hates it. He's so embarrassed by it.

• 5:25Speaker 02

  And that's what you guys got?

• 5:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, we got seventy-five percent because my dad is a hundred, my mom, my mom is fifties. We got seventy-five percent someone tattooed on us.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  I mean, that's amazing.

• 5:35Drew Afualo?

  Right, I think so.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  That's kind of the point of a tattoo, right? Is you want there to be a good story behind it because people are going to ask you about it.

• 5:42Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 5:42Speaker 02

  And so you don't want to be like, oh, I just liked this.

• 5:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly. And we got it like all my siblings, like me, my brother, my sister, we got that for our dad. And then we got like a moon for our mom.

• 5:53Speaker 02

  Oh, that's nice.

• 5:54Drew Afualo?

  So like hers is sweet. My dad's is stupid, like on purpose. Like we're like, well, obviously.

• 5:58Speaker 02

  Were you like, we have to get one for mom too?

• 6:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 6:00Speaker 02

  You can't just get one parent tattoo.

• 6:02Drew Afualo?

  We actually came up with hers first.

• 6:03Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 6:04Drew Afualo?

  So then we had hers locked and loaded and then my sister was like, you know, it would be hilarious. And it was funny because we were fucked up. We were drunk at the time we came up with it. So she's like, you know, it'd be so funny, dude, if we did that. And I was like, that's hilarious. And then when our tattoo artist like was gonna do our tattoos, we did the moon first and then we were like, fuck it, let's just do it. Now it's tattooed on our bodies forever, so.

• 6:26Speaker 02

  I mean, that is a good one and it's small.

• 6:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's small.

• 6:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:29Drew Afualo?

  Me and my sister have it on the back of our neck and my brother has it on his back, like on his shoulder. I will say though, my brother wanted it big as fuck. So it is in like seventy-two point font, which like. Kind of funny.

• 6:42Speaker 02

  I mean, super funny.

• 6:43Drew Afualo?

  Bold choice for our first tattoo, but kind of funny.

• 6:45Speaker 02

  Oh, it was his first one? I love that. I love that so much.

• 6:49Drew Afualo?

  The size of Pangaea on his back. It just says seventy-five percent someone.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  Absolutely incredible. I mean, yeah, my sibling Bryn has a bunch of cool tattoos. And then my, one of my best friends Ariel has a bunch of cool tattoos. So I get really intimidated. I'm inspired and intimidated by theirs because I'm like, shit, well, it's not gonna come out that cool. Yeah, and also, I sort of feel like you can't just have one. You have to have like four. So I feel like I would just go in and be like, can I have four? And they would be like, no. Start with one, but I'll look stupid with one.

• 7:21Drew Afualo?

  Four, if you did four, you could do like four little ones. And then you could put them all in one place or around your body and then you'll, I'm telling you, when you get one, you're gonna be like, I love it. I love it. I need more. I love it.

• 7:33Speaker 02

  Says, but I have such like, I don't know, I've just have kind of like a baby face and always have. And it doesn't seem to be getting better. And I just don't feel that that's gonna, everyone I was younger, they're like, you'll love it later. It'll, don't worry, it'll all pan out. And I'm like, I don't think it's going to. I think this is it forever. But I don't feel that it, um, it, it, it supports, uh, cool, edgy tattoos. My whole vibe.

• 7:54Drew Afualo?

  That's true, but you could get little like patchwork ones, like dainty little ones. I think those are real cute.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  I'm just scared that.

• 8:01Drew Afualo?

  My first tattoo ever, this one.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  See, that's awesome.

• 8:04Drew Afualo?

  But I got it when I was like in my mid twenties. So like I was older, like old enough to know. Because I'm also over a go. So I really wanted all of them to match or have similar vibes. Some people don't like that. That's totally fine. For me and my body, I needed them to match or there needs to be balance in my head. Whatever that looks like to me. But I waited to get this one and I love it. This is my favorite one. But then once I got this, I was like, now I gotta get more. Now I have four total, but my two biggest ones are this one and the one on my back. I have one down my spine. That goes like that all the way down to my lower back. That one was, is one of my favorite ones, but I never see it really unless I'm like looking in the mirror. But that was so painful. I almost regretted it. Yeah. It felt like I was being tased. Like it literally felt like I was like.

• 8:49Speaker 02

  Well, on your spine, that does make sense.

• 8:51Drew Afualo?

  There were parts where I wanted to tell him, I'm like, I think you got it.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:54Drew Afualo?

  I think you got that spot.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Just halfway down the spine, you're like, you know what? I only want it on half. I only want it on half, I think it's cool.

• 9:02Drew Afualo?

  And when you get tribal, it, it, you need like shading, like a lot of gray shading. So you do like the outline first, then the shading, then gray shading, which gives it dimension.

• 9:11Speaker 02

  And that hurts?

• 9:12Drew Afualo?

  So, yeah, it's just scraping, like, and filling in like a coloring book. And so like, for the second session, the first one I did like eight hours, and then he was gonna finish it in the second one the next day. I did the numbing cream.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 9:24Drew Afualo?

  The second time, because I was like, man, fuck it, I don't, I don't care, like, I felt like I was being electrocuted and I need help.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  We didn't do numbing cream the first time?

• 9:31Drew Afualo?

  No, I, I, cuz I didn't do it for my other ones, so I was like, oh, it'll be fine.

• 9:34Speaker 02

  What?

• 9:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it hurts, it hurts, but it's like.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  Who says no to the numbing cream if it's there?

• 9:38Drew Afualo?

  A lot of people do.

• 9:39Speaker 02

  What?

• 9:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I think that's misogynistic shit.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  People have natural childbirth, it's like, what are you trying to prove? Who gives a shit?

• 9:46Drew Afualo?

  Who cares?

• 9:46Speaker 02

  It's gonna hurt, take what you can, to help it. I'm just scared that if I get tattoos, I, I look so wholesome, like, if I get words or something, I'm gonna look like a live, laugh, love pillow. From Home Goods, you know, where I'm like, what's this? I'm like, it's a little women quote. Of course it is, of course it is, you lame, lame bitch.

• 10:08Drew Afualo?

  You know what's funny, is like, if you do have that very, um, I've seen on TikTok, they call it a cutie patootie disease.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've seen that.

• 10:15Drew Afualo?

  You're a cutie patootie.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  That sucks.

• 10:17Drew Afualo?

  That doesn't mean.

• 10:18Speaker 02

  That's not cool.

• 10:19Drew Afualo?

  It's not cool.

• 10:20Speaker 02

  You don't wanna be a cutie patootie, you wanna be like a bad bitch, and it's fucking sucks.

• 10:25Drew Afualo?

  You're, I'm suffering from cutie patootie disease.

• 10:27Speaker 02

  Oh, whatever, it's fine.

• 10:29Drew Afualo?

  Cuz it means you're never gonna age. You're gonna look young forever.

• 10:32Speaker 02

  I don't even think I look, that's the thing, is now I think I'm aging, I was like, I thought the whole point of this is that I look young forever, and yet, we are deteriorating.

• 10:41Drew Afualo?

  And I'm pacing, for some reason, I'm pacing, that's strange, I don't like that.

• 10:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, I'm supposed to look 21, and yet, you can see the wear and tear.

• 10:50Drew Afualo?

  I I made a joke once on here, I think I was talking to Katia. But I told her like sometimes, and this is true, like people think I'm younger than I am.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:59Drew Afualo?

  So I was like, sometimes they think I'm like, in the clip, I say nineteen twenty. What I actually meant was like twenty one, twenty two.

• 11:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:06Drew Afualo?

  Early twenties, I guess is my point.

• 11:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:08Drew Afualo?

  Girl, you should have seen the amount of comments that were like, you do not look.

• 11:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:14Drew Afualo?

  Nineteen, you hag. The amount of people that were like, you're a hundred years old, you fucking crypt keeper.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  And you're like, I'm out in the world. People are telling me this. I'm quoting everyone else.

• 11:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  That's so funny. There is a big difference between nineteen and twenty two, though.

• 11:29Drew Afualo?

  There is.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  When I look at photos of me like nineteen to twenty two.

• 11:32Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 11:32Speaker 02

  I'm like.

• 11:33Drew Afualo?

  There is quite the difference.

• 11:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:35Drew Afualo?

  Like you age rapidly in those early twenties. I, but then when I did that twenty six, I'm thirty.

• 11:40Speaker 02

  You're thirty.

• 11:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I just turned thirty last year.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  Okay, gotcha. Welcome.

• 11:44Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 11:45Speaker 02

  Did you feel the shift?

• 11:46Drew Afualo?

  I did. Honestly, I felt it at twenty eight. I told my sister, I wish I skipped twenty nine, because it felt like when I was telling everyone, oh, I'm twenty nine, I felt like I was hanging on to my twenties.

• 11:57Speaker 02

  It was embarrassing.

• 11:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was humiliating.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  You weren't lying, but you feel like you're lying.

• 12:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  You're like, I'm twenty nine. You're like, you made up that number to stay in your twenties longer. No one's twenty nine. It's like the thirteenth floor in a building. We skip it. It's bad luck to be twenty nine.

• 12:10Drew Afualo?

  I was like, I'd rather just skip. Also, I've been like mentally, I feel like an old man forever.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:15Drew Afualo?

  So thirty just made more sense to me. And then I was like, and then when I'm in my thirties, I get to say, I'm in my thirties. Like, someone asked me in like a Q and A, they were like, what's your favorite part about being thirty or being in your thirties now? And I was like, saying, I'm in my thirties to justify anything I say. So like, if I say, dinner starts at eleven, I can't go, I'll be in my thirties.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 12:35Drew Afualo?

  I'll be in my thirties. I'll be in my thirties at that point.

• 12:37Speaker 02

  I will still be in my thirties at eleven.

• 12:38Drew Afualo?

  Or I'm like, or like, I'm like, I can't eat that. It's too late. I'm in my thirties. Like, I was like, it just punctuates every, it justifies my actions, gives me an excuse.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  That's such a good point.

• 12:50Drew Afualo?

  All of it. And also, I'm a baby in my thirties. Now I'm thirty.

• 12:53Speaker 02

  I know. Thirty feels good. Thirty one, I didn't like.

• 12:55Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 12:56Speaker 02

  Thirty two feels good again.

• 12:57Drew Afualo?

  Oh, nice.

• 12:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's been a roller coaster.

• 12:59Drew Afualo?

  I'm grateful for the warnings.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:01Drew Afualo?

  The pitfalls that are ahead of me.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  But thirty felt so good. Thirty felt great. And I did feel a shift where I was like, I always felt older as well when I was younger. So now I'm like, okay, we finally caught up.

• 13:13Drew Afualo?

  Matches.

• 13:14Speaker 02

  Yes, but now I'm like, cool, I'm gonna feel like I'm the age I always should have been for like five years and then I'm probably gonna start panicking about my mortality. So that's a nice little.

• 13:23Drew Afualo?

  That's fun.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  Five year window between like the insanity of your twenties and like perimenopause, I guess.

• 13:30Drew Afualo?

  Can't wait.

• 13:31Speaker 02

  Can't wait. That's what's on my for you page.

• 13:34Drew Afualo?

  I like, I joked about this with my sister, cause like, me and all my friends are pretty much in our thirties. I think like, young, our youngest friends are like twenty eight.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, and you're like, and you're hanging out with us. So to be clear, you're in your thirties now. By association.

• 13:47Drew Afualo?

  Right. And I think honestly, some of our friends who are in their twenties still, they've started saying, well, I'm in my fucking thirties. I'm not doing that. I'm like, exactly.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 13:54Drew Afualo?

  Condition the brain now. And I think it's like, uh, it, there is a vast difference. Like we were talking about, look from nineteen to twenty two. From thirty to like twenty five. There's like, it feels like a huge difference.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  Did you do the twenty sixteen trend?

• 14:08Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I did.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  You did? You did hard post?

• 14:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I did.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  Okay, you're younger than me.

• 14:12Drew Afualo?

  I held out for a while though, cause I was like, I don't know if I like what I look like back then. Let me, let me look.

• 14:17Speaker 02

  Oh, interesting.

• 14:17Drew Afualo?

  Let me browse.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  I was gonna do it, cause I'm like, this is so funny. And then I put it in my stories and I'm naturally brunette. And I was like, ha, ha, ha, should I go back to brunette? And everyone said, yes. And I was like, does it actually look better or am I just younger? Because to be clear, this was me ten years ago. So yeah, of course you're like, you'd look twenty two with brown hair. No, I was twenty two with brown hair.

• 14:44Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  And then I was like, we're not hard posting her.

• 14:46Drew Afualo?

  Only ever known me as a blonde, by the way. So that's kinda fucked up.

• 14:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was like, we're not, I was like, we're not posting these to main.

• 14:52Drew Afualo?

  Forget it.

• 14:52Speaker 02

  There's no way.

• 14:54Drew Afualo?

  I know, I follow, one of my friends is Emily Radikowski. I'm sure you're familiar with her.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. She was like, who?

• 15:00Drew Afualo?

  She posted a twenty sixteen thing and I go, what the fuck?

• 15:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know.

• 15:04Drew Afualo?

  What's her problem?

• 15:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you look the same bitch. Yeah, get out of, get out of here. Get the fuck out of my face. Yeah, you look stunning and gorgeous. Get the fuck out of here.

• 15:11Speaker 02

  Trend's not for you.

• 15:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I saw that twenty sixteen. I said, get this shit off my timeline.

• 15:16Speaker 02

  I thought it was more to like see like the trends and like how bad like your iPhone camera was then. Yeah, that's what it should have been.

• 15:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, no, hers, no, stunning, drop dead gorgeous.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, it's supposed to be like, look how stupid my outfit was.

• 15:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's like, look at this dog filter I used in all my pictures. I literally told them like, all my pictures are blown out by filters. Like Snapchat filters, regular Instagram filters, just ruined.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, back when we were like, anyone can be a photographer now with the help of filters. And they look so bad.

• 15:47Drew Afualo?

  With Sepia tone. No, for real. It was like, it was, I think, fun to post about it, but also too hard awakening. For the way some people were talking to me, I was like, alright, relax a little bit. I was still bad then and I'm so bad now, okay. But you could tell, I think, I was a big choker girl back in 2016. I lived and died by the choker.

• 16:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:10Drew Afualo?

  And then one of the pictures I used was me wearing a choker in the pool. Which like, should you be wearing a choker in the pool? No.

• 16:16Speaker 02

  I mean, I, I was so excited when the chokers came back and they weren't back for that long.

• 16:23Drew Afualo?

  No, really.

• 16:23Speaker 02

  It was just a moment and I still wanna wear one. And it's fucked up that we can't.

• 16:29Drew Afualo?

  I know, it's just not the same anymore.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel like if I wear a choker online, everyone's gonna be like, what, are you okay? Like, that will age me. Like, that's what's hard about getting dressed in your 30s is you're like, is this the right balance of? I know a lot of people talk about this, about like, I'm 30, what jeans do I wear now? Like, cuz you just don't wanna look like you're trying to look too young, but also you don't wanna age yourself.

• 16:53Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 16:53Speaker 02

  You just like wanna look exactly your age.

• 16:56Drew Afualo?

  No, that's so true.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  For the first and only time in your life and I can't figure it out.

• 17:01Drew Afualo?

  No, that's real as fuck because I've told, sometimes when I've worn outfits, I'll like show my, my man and I'll, I'll be like, what do you think? And he goes, well, what don't you like about it? I'm like, I just feel like I'm trying to dress like I'm 22.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:13Drew Afualo?

  I've said that before, like literally speaking, I'm like, I wanna dress my own age.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:16Drew Afualo?

  And also too, this is like in the same topic, I guess, as like dressing, but I'm sure you could tell by my fit now. I'm a big fan of like huge t-shirts and huge jeans. Like, unironically, I just love that look. I just think it's fucking awesome.

• 17:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:31Drew Afualo?

  Unironically, that's how I dress. And then one time, like, I wanna say about a month ago, there were people online like making videos about me, like basically going like, do you guys think Drew got married or that, do you think she broke up with her man? Which is weird, because I'm not involving them in the planning of my wedding, they somehow think it's not happening. Um, which I was like, I just told you I was getting married. I didn't, I didn't say I was gonna involve you in the shit.

• 17:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:53Drew Afualo?

  I'm not a, I'm not a lifestyle girl, so you, you shouldn't be checking in with me about that.

• 17:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:58Drew Afualo?

  You're not invited to the wedding, you're not hearing about the wedding. That's how it works for me. But then they started saying, like this one girl made a video about me and she was like, I think she might be pregnant, because she's wearing big t-shirts all the time. And I was like, that's just how I dress, bitch.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  Oh my god. They're so desperate to know anything about you.

• 18:16Drew Afualo?

  They're like, she's wearing these disgusting fat Albert clothes and I think she might be hiding something.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 18:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they literally were like, oh my god, she's wearing, you're right, she does wear huge t- she wears huge pants too. I said, hey, what the fuck?

• 18:30Speaker 02

  That's so insane.

• 18:30Drew Afualo?

  This is a fan video? I can't tell.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  They're like, we're so happy for Drew.

• 18:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I was like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm not wearing my two-piece aloe yoga set all the fucking time. My fucking bad.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  Oh my god. That's honestly, that's 2016. I was just like in active wear all the time.

• 18:45Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 18:46Speaker 02

  Like a fucking loser.

• 18:47Drew Afualo?

  And a choker.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  And a choker, oh my god.

• 18:49Drew Afualo?

  Had a choker on. It's so silly. I was also a big like winged liner, fake lash. But I wasn't, I didn't believe in blush or lip liner, so I was giving spooky. Like, my makeup was giving spooky.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  Are you not wearing lashes right now?

• 19:04Drew Afualo?

  No, I am.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 19:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I have, but they're individuals.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 19:07Drew Afualo?

  So they're less.

• 19:07Speaker 02

  So good.

• 19:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, thank you. I had lash blindness for a while. I'll say it, sure. Yeah, I did. And when I started doing this, I still had it. Cause I loved lash extensions, like I loved getting them put on.

• 19:19Speaker 02

  But then they get kinda crazy.

• 19:20Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 19:21Speaker 02

  Right.

• 19:21Drew Afualo?

  After a while, that you could just see, like, you can even look at my videos, don't go do that. But if you do look, like, my lashes get bigger and bigger and bigger over time, and then all of a sudden they're all gone. Because I started glamming all the time, to the point where like, they weren't making any sense to get them anymore. Because every time I glammed, like, all the makeup, all the liner, and he would still put lashes on me sometimes, it just was- ripping them all out like

• 19:43Speaker 02

  oh yeah

• 19:44Drew Afualo?

  it was just a waste of money

• 19:45Speaker 02

  is this your real hair all this hair

• 19:47Drew Afualo?

  no I have extensions

• 19:48Speaker 02

  you do

• 19:49Drew Afualo?

  yeah if you can believe it

• 19:50Speaker 02

  they look really good

• 19:51Drew Afualo?

  thank you I know they're real blended I and don't go back and look but I I have I used to be blonde too when I first started uh making videos and stuff so sometimes when I look at old things I'm blonde and have crazy lashes it looks nothing

• 20:05Speaker 02

  you're like who is that

• 20:05Drew Afualo?

  yeah I was like who is this woman I did something recently too where I can't say what it is yet but it's like a project thing I'm working on but

• 20:13Speaker 02

  everyone's like she's pregnant I know she said it she said she's working on a project

• 20:17Drew Afualo?

  by the big t-shirt and they went back to look they were just looking for like reaction pictures of me and so I when they sent me

• 20:25Speaker 02

  always are so mean

• 20:27Drew Afualo?

  they're bad

• 20:27Speaker 02

  they're so mean reactions

• 20:29Drew Afualo?

  what is that

• 20:29Speaker 02

  it's like when they try to get a photo of you on stage doing stand up and it's always just like

• 20:35Speaker 02

  you're like come on

• 20:35Drew Afualo?

  or me laughing for real in photo horrifying

• 20:39Speaker 02

  don't do that

• 20:40Drew Afualo?

  yeah I got a fake like catalog laugh in order for it to photograph well because my real laugh does not procure a good result

• 20:46Speaker 02

  yeah

• 20:47Drew Afualo?

  but I remember they sent me the deck of like all the reaction pics and they were like oh just want to get your thoughts on them and I told my team I said yeah get rid of all of them they're hideous and ugly and it's because they went back like three years like looking at my old videos and like my lashes look insane I'm blonde and a lot of them my hair is like insane and some of them I was like hey I look like shit so no

• 21:09Speaker 02

  and you're like I put out so much content

• 21:11Drew Afualo?

  yeah I was like hey can you look in 2025 or does it have to be 2022

• 21:15Speaker 02

  why did they look so real

• 21:17Drew Afualo?

  I have no clue and they they went and redid it and they sent it back to me and I was like that looks way better perfect also you can go on my Instagram you don't have to

• 21:24Speaker 02

  yeah we don't have

• 21:25Drew Afualo?

  you don't have to cap capture me in motion you could go on Instagram get a static photo

• 21:30Speaker 02

  yeah it's okay I cut my hair like six months ago and

• 21:33Drew Afualo?

  I love it by the way

• 21:35Speaker 02

  thank you so much

• 21:35Drew Afualo?

  do you like the bob

• 21:36Speaker 02

  I I do like it I think now I'm kind of like maybe we grow it out a little I'm not really sure because I just hit a point where I felt like weird having long hair it I think it was the age thing I was like

• 21:47Drew Afualo?

  you're right

• 21:48Speaker 02

  am I Do I, is everyone like, what are you trying, the ponytail? Like, I don't know, I just felt it got like, it got like overstimulating, it just started to feel crazy. And now, like, I do miss throwing it in a ponytail. Now it's long enough where I can kind of like throw it back still.

• 22:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 22:06Speaker 02

  Um, but yeah, it was so weird. It was just like, one day I woke up and I was like, who, who is that? And my hair had always been, always been like that. It hadn't been short since I was in like 7th grade, but I was just like, it's not me. That's not her.

• 22:22Drew Afualo?

  No, that's actually so real, cuz my, my sister cut her hair into a bob too and it unlocked something for her.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  It does, right?

• 22:28Drew Afualo?

  She was like, and she was 31, 32 when she cut it. 31.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Well, and the time you get back, it's just...

• 22:36Drew Afualo?

  No, she said that just too because her hair is curly, like naturally. And so, I remember, cuz I've been getting extensions for like a couple of years, but I used to get real, even longer ones. Like, I'm a real go bigger, go home girl, so like, I'll go all the way and then work my way back. Like, that's typically how I do it. Did it with lashes, now I did it with hair, all the way, and then I worked my way back. And then she, she was going through a breakup, so she was like, I think I'm gonna get extensions. And I was like, you're gonna hate them dude, cuz she like...

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Cuz it's a lot of upkeep?

• 23:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's, it is a lot, like, it's a lot of upkeep. And she was like, no, it'll be fine. And then she got like long extensions put in, and she was like, I fucking hate them. And then she went the three months, got them taken out, and then cut her hair into a bob. And then when she cut it in the bob, she's like, this is perfect!

• 23:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's something, there's still something inside me that like wants hair down to my waist. And I think it's, I think the something inside me is like Miley Cyrus at her peak.

• 23:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 23:28Speaker 02

  When I was like in middle school or whatever, like, there's just something, that's when I'm...

• 23:32Drew Afualo?

  Her extensions, insane by the way.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Insane.

• 23:35Drew Afualo?

  She had way too much hair on her head, but I loved it.

• 23:37Speaker 02

  But they were so good.

• 23:38Drew Afualo?

  They were so good.

• 23:39Speaker 02

  They were so good.

• 23:40Drew Afualo?

  It was when it was like that honey blonde, like, kinda reddish color too.

• 23:43Speaker 02

  Oh my god, it's so, so good.

• 23:45Drew Afualo?

  And she had textured ones too, so they looked even better long.

• 23:47Speaker 02

  I never feel like more of a millennial than when someone brings up like Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, like, any of that, like, class of Disney. And I don't even think I'm like, that, I'm like a normal millennial where I'm like, yeah, I liked them, that was, they were great. And then if someone's like, well, Miley Cyrus isn't a good singer, I'm like, how fucking dare you?

• 24:07Drew Afualo?

  You know, you know what, put your clothes back on, we're gonna talk about it.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  And you knew it was a man.

• 24:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course I did.

• 24:12Speaker 02

  And you knew it was a man.

• 24:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course I did.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  Cuz a woman would never.

• 24:14Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  But yeah, I get very like, that's my friend!

• 24:19Speaker 02

  You don't talk about my friend.

• 24:20Drew Afualo?

  How dare you. She went through a lot.

• 24:23Drew Afualo?

  And that's true. Holy shit, that's so true. I know I loved them too when I was younger. When they used to be on YouTube.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  Oh my god, yes.

• 24:32Drew Afualo?

  When they, when the girls were fighting on YouTube.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Yes, that one video that was like, was it Selena and Demi?

• 24:37Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  And then like Miley and they were like talking.

• 24:39Drew Afualo?

  And Miley and her fifty thousand year old friend. Obviously because they were all fourteen and her friend was twenty-two or something. And then they made a video copying them.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  I, yes.

• 24:48Drew Afualo?

  Loved it.

• 24:49Speaker 02

  A moment.

• 24:50Drew Afualo?

  I wish they could beef like that still.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  I know, nobody's really like fighting anymore publicly.

• 24:55Drew Afualo?

  Not anymore. Well, see, I, it's funny because like I was just telling my friend the other day, I was like, that's what the internet used to be.

• 25:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:01Drew Afualo?

  It used to be nothing but funnies.

• 25:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:03Drew Afualo?

  And giggles. Now it's horrifying.

• 25:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, now it's bad.

• 25:05Drew Afualo?

  And I'm on there. It's terrible. It's so bad.

• 25:09Speaker 02

  We can start a fight after this.

• 25:10Drew Afualo?

  Oh, perfect.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  Maybe when, when this comes out.

• 25:12Drew Afualo?

  We'll start fake beef.

• 25:13Speaker 02

  We'll start fake beef.

• 25:14Drew Afualo?

  And then we'll, we'll promote your special.

• 25:16Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 25:18Drew Afualo?

  Perfect segue.

• 25:19Speaker 02

  Perfect segue.

• 25:20Drew Afualo?

  Tell me about the special. Miss, I have twenty thousand specials. Tell me about the newest one.

• 25:23Speaker 02

  It's only four.

• 25:25Drew Afualo?

  It's a beautiful thing though, I'm so happy for you.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  Thank you so much. I feel, when you see someone promoting something and you're like, oh, I want to watch that. And then it's not out yet, are you furious? Because that's how I feel. I'm always like, what the?

• 25:36Drew Afualo?

  Why would you edge me like that?

• 25:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, they put out a Bridgerton trailer like six months ahead. I'm like, who the fuck is this for? What are you doing? I do like Bridgerton.

• 25:44Drew Afualo?

  Okay, wait, tell me about, tell me about your special first and then we'll get.

• 25:47Speaker 02

  I'm just here to promote Bridgerton.

• 25:48Drew Afualo?

  Perfect.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  I don't, like, I do have a special, but it's like, who cares? Um, no, if you run out of Bridgerton, I do have a special.

• 25:56Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Uh, it's called Prodigal Daughter and it's, uh, it's the hours doing on the Save Me Tour. And, uh, yeah, it's like, it's a lot of, it's really, it's really only like three subjects. It's religious trauma, death, and I'm gay now.

• 26:15Drew Afualo?

  Perfect.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  That's kind of the outline of the special.

• 26:18Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my dream date. Cute. Love that. Amazing.

• 26:22Speaker 02

  Truly, my dream date is.

• 26:25Drew Afualo?

  Ending up gay.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, ending up gay. But yeah, it's like, I would say like, half the special warning is about like, religious trauma and like, I mean, I think it's, I could not have done this hour any sooner than I did, cause like, my twenties, I've spent like, a decade untangling myself from Christianity and like, all the damage that it did. And then I got to like, a better place with it and I've like, you know, I have extended family that are nice Christians and more progressive Christians and I have friends who have, yeah, exactly. So, for a long time though, for a long time, I was very like, if you're a Christian, you're a bad person. Cause like, that's-

• 27:08Drew Afualo?

  Which is fair.

• 27:08Speaker 02

  Which is fair, look!

• 27:09Drew Afualo?

  If you have the trauma, it's fair.

• 27:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, if you have the trauma, and I think a lot of people feel that way, and then I like, worked through a lot of that, and I think this hour is the result of all that work, because I, hopefully, it, it came out very like, I think balanced and like, more of a nuanced take. And it's like, I, I am poking fun at, uh, growing up Christian and, and the church, but it's, it's not as malicious as my like, younger bits about it were. And then, yeah, it's like, me talking about death and preparing for that and-

• 27:43Drew Afualo?

  I think that's really interesting, and I also think that's very indicative of your ability to grow as a comic too. Like, you've been able to like, look back and see your other stuff and be like, there's probably something funnier in there that's less antagonistic and driving from a different place. Where I can be a little bit more understanding, but also still make jokes and talk about what it is, the very real things I experienced.

• 28:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, and when you're like, more of a personal comic like I am, you, you change your mind about stuff.

• 28:13Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  So like, there's younger versions of me that did all these jokes that I still think are funny, but I don't feel that way anymore. You know, and I know where it comes from now, and I know why I was mad about that, or, you know, why that affected me so much, and so, and it's, it's not just the religious stuff, it's also like, dating and-

• 28:33Drew Afualo?

  Which is all so closely intertwined too, into religion when you were raised religious.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  It really fucking is. And look, there's some things that I'm like- Oh, that's still definitely the result of being raised in like abstinence only culture. It's like, look, I'm not gonna be able to sleep with you right away. I would like to, but it's just gonna take me a little longer and I've done as much work as I can

• 28:56Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  on that part of me, but yeah, it's, you know, I need to like know you pretty well. And it is what it is.

• 29:03Drew Afualo?

  Right, and that's, and that is something that you unpack with time.

• 29:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:06Drew Afualo?

  Like, the more you are able to sit with it and process it.

• 29:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you're like, I started in a place of you have to marry me to have sex with me. Pretty good now that maybe it takes six to eight weeks.

• 29:17Drew Afualo?

  Progress.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  Progress.

• 29:18Drew Afualo?

  Look at us.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:19Drew Afualo?

  Oh, well, I, I'm curious, like, when you were on the Save Me tour, did you feel yourself developing it even more so? Did you kind of stick to what you already planned, like, going into it?

• 29:29Speaker 02

  Oh, I mean, that's what I, that's what I love so much about stand-up is it's like never done. I mean, I added lines the night of the special. Like, I was editing it up until the very last second. And then you get into the edit room after it's filmed and then you're still cutting stuff. So, it, that's what's so fun about touring is, I mean, I'm so spoiled as a comedian because I can do whatever I want up there. Like, there are nights I get up on stage and I'm like, there are 2,000 people here and I can do whatever I want? I can say whatever the fuck I want?

• 30:01Drew Afualo?

  You guys have to do what I say.

• 30:03Speaker 02

  You guys have no idea. This is crazy. Like, I was really sick one night on stage and I just talked about it for like eight minutes and I was like, you got, like, I have a cold. I have a cold and you're here.

• 30:15Drew Afualo?

  And you gotta hear about it.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  And you gotta hear about it. But yeah, I mean, you're just always constantly, like, adjusting and reworking and adding jokes that you forgot you used to do and cutting jokes that don't work in the hour. And like, sometimes you'll have a joke you really like, but it doesn't fit, like, thematically in this hour. So then you might save it or you might just cut it all together and then it goes nowhere. But it was like fun to do for a year on the road. It's really interesting. I mean, by the way, are you still dabbling in stand-up at all?

• 30:46Drew Afualo?

  No, and I was gonna tell you that. I was actually gonna, because I'm not even kidding, that conversation sits with me a lot. When I told you about that and then you were like, don't do that.

• 30:55Speaker 02

  Well, I was like, you're so, yeah.

• 30:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're like, you skipped the line. You don't need to, don't do that. I'm not kidding, that sits with me. I, I've thought about it. I've talked about it in meetings with my team. I'm like, well, Taylor Tomlinson, a very established and successful standup comedian, told me not to do that.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Well, you should if you want to.

• 31:10Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's the thing is I didn't. I was on the fence and I think you could tell. That's why you said that to me because if it's not a hell yes, it's probably a no.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:18Drew Afualo?

  Because it's that hard. Like, that's like, it is that hard. But I was gonna bring that up to you because when I was still kind of on the fence, like when I talked to you about it.

• 31:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:27Drew Afualo?

  I wasn't like, my mind wasn't super made up, but I was kinda like, mm. I mean, I did it once and I didn't love, but also like, it was my very first time. So like, if I keep going, I'll prob, maybe I'll like it more. Like, that's kind of what I was thinking. And then I got hired.

• 31:42Drew Afualo?

  Basically, I was sought out by a brand, I'll tell you who it was after, to do standup. But like, they wanted me to be like, the face of something. Like a, like a new thing they were trying to make. And I think they were trying to mirror Netflix as a joke, right? They were trying to like, mirror that. But with women, and, and the first thing I said was, I'm not a standup. So if this is about standup, I wouldn't pick me. Because I think you should pick established standup comedians or people at least pursuing that. Because I'm not, like, and it feels, you know, me, like, it feels disingenuous, right? To like, take that gig. Plus, they were gonna put other people on the lineup. So I was like, well, if you're with other standups, like, I don't wanna be above them on, on a marquee like that.

• 32:22Speaker 02

  Right.

• 32:23Drew Afualo?

  That's disrespectful to them and it's also stupid because I am not a standup. And they were like, it's not gonna be that. It's gonna be like, standup, yes, but also like, live podcasts and also just like, live this. And I was like, okay. So when they pitched it to me that way, I was like, okay, sure. Then I signed the deal and I'm in the deal. And part of the deal is doing two shows and they wanted me to do 20 minutes. Mind you, I've only ever done the five.

• 32:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:47Drew Afualo?

  So I was like, oh, I gotta work up to, and normally you go 5, 10, 15, 20, but okay, sure, I'll jump to 20, like. Cause I was like, I could bullshit for 20, but like, I didn't wanna bullshit and I didn't wanna just do crowd work. I wanted to like, actually write jokes.

• 32:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:59Drew Afualo?

  So then. They tell me the twenty, I'm like, okay, that's fine. And they're gonna put like five other people in the lineup, all of them when the lineups came out, standups. All of them, some of them huge ones, and I'll tell you after.

• 33:10Speaker 02

  Oh no.

• 33:11Drew Afualo?

  Like, and I was like, and when I got those, I was like, why would you fucking do that? Like, I was pissed off, cuz I was like, I told you not to do that to me. Like, and it's, and then it just makes me look like a dick. Like, I look like a dickhead influencer that cut the line like that, like.

• 33:25Speaker 02

  And I really, I, it's so nice to hear someone like, respect the art form of standup. Cuz sometimes I'm like, does, does everyone think this is stupid? Like, there's always like, do people think like, this is just silly? Like, it's hard to be good at it.

• 33:41Drew Afualo?

  Hello, I know, and I know that, because I'm friends with a lot of standups.

• 33:45Speaker 02

  Right.

• 33:45Drew Afualo?

  And I've tried it one singular time, and I was like, that shit is hard, and I only did five minutes. I literally remember after I got off, I was like, how the fuck do people memorize an hour?

• 33:55Speaker 02

  Right.

• 33:55Drew Afualo?

  How on earth do you do an hour? I was like, I couldn't believe it, I was like, and none of it's crowd work, by the way.

• 34:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, very slowly.

• 34:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and if you do do it, sometimes it's just spur of the moment, it's not even planned in the hour.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:07Drew Afualo?

  So I was like.

• 34:07Speaker 02

  And those first twenty minutes are like, the hardest to get. Like, I just finished a special, so I have like, no new jokes. I, if you asked me to do twenty right now, I would be like, I can't do that.

• 34:18Drew Afualo?

  That's literally what Caleb told me, he was like, cuz your first twenty, it dictates the pace of the rest of it.

• 34:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:24Drew Afualo?

  Right, so like, I was like, okay, and the success of it also, cuz you could lose them in the first twenty. So I was already annoyed about that, then when I saw the other standups, I was like, why would you do that? Some of them I, I love, and I adore their comedy, I was like, why would you do that? And then I was pissed off, but there's nothing I can do, I'm already in it.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:40Drew Afualo?

  So then I did the first show, which was in New York. So I did the twenty, and so, because of the brand it was with, this was another reason I was annoyed, because in a lot of the marketing, it was centered around me making fun of men, which like, yeah, like, can I do that, am I good at it? Yes. Is that the only thing I can do? No, but I knew that's what they wanted, because that's how they marketed me in everything. Everything was themed around me being a dick to men, like, making fun of them, blah blah blah. Which I think are cheap and easy jokes, but fine, right? So for the the set I wrote for the twenty was centered on that like I was like using that as my my focal point because that's what you hired me for.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  It's a corporate gig.

• 35:19Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly. I was like this is and it was like sponsored and all of that. So I was like, this is what I'm gonna focus on. This is what they wanna see clearly, right? Cause they asked they asked me to do all this other shit involving that theme. And so then I did the twenty. It did really well. Honestly, I killed. Like I did a good job.

• 35:34Speaker 02

  No, that was a move.

• 35:34Drew Afualo?

  And I did a little bit of and I was like telling Caleb about it too. And I was like, I also feel comfortable there. Like I can I can pivot there really easily. Cause that's what I've been joking about. So it's easy, but it's still annoying to me, but I'm gonna do it. So I did it. I killed. I did a little bit of crowd work too. That did well also. And then it was kind of it. And then after that, they were like, wow, that was incredible. Wow, that was amazing. Oh, my God, that was so amazing. Blah, blah, blah. Then a couple of weeks passed and then I go back home because I was in New York and I was supposed to do another show in LA. And so that was my last one. And then they had a meeting with my team and they told my team, um, we had some notes about the set.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  I wanna know what brand it was. So bad.

• 36:17Drew Afualo?

  I don't even know if you know who they are really, but like I'll tell you obviously after. So they said, we have notes on the set. Um, which is insane to tell me at all ever. And then they said, um, we feel like she was too mean to men. And we would like for the next set to be more uplifting.

• 36:36Speaker 02

  What?

• 36:36Drew Afualo?

  And encouraging to women. I said, I'm not fucking Tony Robbins, so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Are you guys, did you guys mean to hire Mel Robbins? Did you guys mean to get her? The fuck are you talking about?

• 36:46Speaker 02

  You come out with a wireless mic.

• 36:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like.

• 36:48Speaker 02

  You know what's great about the boys?

• 36:50Drew Afualo?

  I was like, put your hands together, rub them together. We're gonna create the life we've always wanted. That's what the fuck I they wanted me to do up there. And I was like, I cannot believe I was shaking with rage when my my team called me after.

• 37:01Speaker 02

  That's insane.

• 37:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and they were like.

• 37:03Speaker 02

  More uplifting to women.

• 37:04Drew Afualo?

  They want me to be more.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  And nicer to men.

• 37:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and they said nicer to men.

• 37:08Speaker 02

  Why don't I just lead everyone in making vision boards?

• 37:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, why don't we?

• 37:11Speaker 02

  Not that I'm hating on vision boards. I did make a vision board this year and it's fucking working. Okay?

• 37:17Drew Afualo?

  At period.

• 37:17Speaker 02

  Beginning of February, it's already working.

• 37:19Drew Afualo?

  I know. They want me to go up there and open the room in prayer.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 37:22Drew Afualo?

  Up in prayer, do you guys mind?

• 37:23Speaker 02

  Hey, would be easier than doing twenty minutes of stand up.

• 37:26Drew Afualo?

  Hello. I was like, I don't know. I don't know what Christian comedians make.

• 37:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:30Drew Afualo?

  So if I really wanted to pivot and make a bag, I would go that way.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 37:33Drew Afualo?

  And they literally were like, yeah, no, she it was just like a little too negative. A stand-up set?

• 37:40Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 37:40Drew Afualo?

  Too negative?

• 37:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:42Drew Afualo?

  I killed.

• 37:43Speaker 02

  I don't know a lot of like comedians I would describe as positive and uplifting.

• 37:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like what did you leave and pull the room? Like they were like, I wasn't feeling very inspired when I left.

• 37:52Speaker 02

  No, that's one guy. One guy, high up.

• 37:55Drew Afualo?

  Right, you're right.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  Which, uh, depend- based on who you told me it is, I'm very confused.

• 38:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's, it's actually yours, you're actually dead on because my team was pissed, right? I wasn't even in the conversation at this time, so.

• 38:07Speaker 02

  And you shouldn't have to be.

• 38:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly. And my team was mad. And they said, is this coming from someone or is this something you guys just came up with? And then they said there was an older gentleman.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  There we go.

• 38:18Drew Afualo?

  Uh, in charge, he was the higher up.

• 38:19Speaker 02

  And it always is.

• 38:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, um, that was with the brand that sponsored it, right? And he was in the audience, which I knew because there was one old guy sitting in the center, like arms crossed the whole time going, like just annoyed.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:34Drew Afualo?

  The whole set. So I knew exactly who it was. I could see him the whole night. And they said that he complained. And like since he was, uh, his brand was sponsoring the second one, he demanded that I change my set and make it better because it was too antagonistic and fucked up to men. Which I was like.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  I wanna know what he thought about all the other comedians.

• 38:52Drew Afualo?

  Right, cuz another comedian that night said a slur on stage. So, you know, um, I would say if we were gonna.

• 38:57Speaker 02

  Cut to him, standing ovation.

• 38:59Drew Afualo?

  He's like.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  He's so excited. He's like, finally.

• 39:01Drew Afualo?

  Need more of that, need more of that.

• 39:03Speaker 02

  Netflix doesn't even give me notes on my specials.

• 39:05Drew Afualo?

  Hello?

• 39:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, that's insane.

• 39:07Drew Afualo?

  That's so, um, wow, interesting.

• 39:09Speaker 02

  And that's not just like a me brag thing. I think that, like, I'm saying they let comedians like do their thing.

• 39:14Drew Afualo?

  Clearly, I've seen terrible ones. I've seen terrible, uh, like, yeah, I can think of one in particular I saw on Netflix.

• 39:19Speaker 02

  Which one was it?

• 39:20Drew Afualo?

  That was really bad.

• 39:20Speaker 02

  [BLEEP]. Oh, okay. I was gonna say someone else.

• 39:23Drew Afualo?

  Oh, really?

• 39:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:24Drew Afualo?

  I know who you're talking.

• 39:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:25Drew Afualo?

  Are you talking about? [BLEEP].

• 39:27Speaker 02

  No.

• 39:28Drew Afualo?

  No, who are you talking about?

• 39:28Speaker 02

  Well, I'm talking about [BLEEP].

• 39:30Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yes, yes, yes, bad. He's a bad comic all around.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 39:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, he's a bad comic, generally speaking.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:36Drew Afualo?

  But I was, I was so put off by that shit. I was like, yeah. I don't know if that's for me after all, like. And then as I like, you know, that was like last year, I would say last spring. So like up until now, I've done a few more live performances, like just with my sister when we do our podcast live.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  Which is great.

• 39:54Drew Afualo?

  And that's just my vibe. I was like with the standup shit. I was like, I think that was another sign. This is not for me. Like, this is not something I'm meant to do.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  The way that you talk to your team about doing standup is like how I talk to my team about doing a podcast. Yes, where I'm like, I just, I don't know. And they honestly, they talk to me the same way where they're like, do you really have time to do that?

• 40:16Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 40:16Speaker 02

  Well, and I'm like, actually, you're right. And I feel the same way where I'm like, I mean, when you're talking about it, when I came in, I'm like, your lighting's incredible. Your setup's incredible. Your clips look great. Clips are great. And it's like, it would have to be like a whole production like this.

• 40:31Drew Afualo?

  For real.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  To feel good about it. But there are people who do podcasts that are, look like shit and are not good. And it's like, well, anyone can do that. It's like, no, to do it right, it's like a lot of work and production.

• 40:42Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  And that's why I'm like.

• 40:44Drew Afualo?

  And the same thing on, on your side with standup. It's the same thing.

• 40:46Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 40:46Drew Afualo?

  And that's why when, when I've told my standup friends of that story, they've been like, um, what you said earlier, which was like, I'm really glad that you like have the respect for the craft because it does feel like a joke sometimes. And when you were saying that earlier, it's like, it's because people, I think it's like the access to seeing it online all the time makes people think they can do it. Like they're like,

• 41:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, if I just had the time, I could be Taylor Tomlinson. If I just had the time.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  I'm not saying that's not true, by the way. If you had 16 years, you could be Taylor Tomlinson.

• 41:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. If you had 16 years lying around.

• 41:23Drew Afualo?

  That's literally what I'm fucking saying. I'm, I'm, well, and it's also like, you could have all the time. That doesn't mean you can do it.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:30Drew Afualo?

  And it's the same thing with podcasting too. I think podcasting's the new thing, right?

• 41:33Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:34Drew Afualo?

  Standup was that thing for a long time. And then because of TikTok and everything now, I think now podcasts are the new thing where they're like, all I need is the mic and the time. That's all I need. Which I always tell people when they ask me about podcasts. I'm always telling them like, I mean, Before you worry about buying anything, set up your phone to look at you and record yourself talking by yourself for forty minutes.

• 41:58Speaker 02

  Hard.

• 41:58Drew Afualo?

  Just see if you can do it.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:59Drew Afualo?

  Like, cause most often times, like even if the show or the podcast is kinda like this one where it's like, um, interview based or it's like guest driven. Um, even then, sometimes you're gonna have guests that don't wanna fucking talk or don't know how to. So you have to like fill the space. Like you have to be able to fill it and carry it.

• 42:18Speaker 02

  Well, that's why I was so impressed with you. The first time I did your podcast is I was coming from set. I was really tired.

• 42:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  And I left and I was like, Drew's an incredible podcaster and interviewer and carried that shit. Cause I was very sleepy and I hadn't met you and I was like.

• 42:32Drew Afualo?

  I thought you killed. I don't know what you're talking about.

• 42:34Speaker 02

  No, I was just like, I felt like the whole time I was just asking you questions like about, like not in a funny way, just like, how did you meet your fiance?

• 42:41Drew Afualo?

  Well, to be fair, that was our first time meeting.

• 42:43Speaker 02

  It was our first time meeting, yeah.

• 42:44Drew Afualo?

  So that was like, to be fair, it is kinda like a first date where like, you're like, well, what's your favorite color? Like you kinda have to go over the early steps. That's why sometimes when people watch my show and they've been long time fans of my show, sometimes they'll say shit like, sometimes Drew repeats herself. I'm like, well, no shit bitch. I, every time I meet someone, you try talking by yourself for fifty-two weeks a year, girl.

• 43:02Speaker 02

  Truly.

• 43:02Drew Afualo?

  And also I forget.

• 43:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and you probably did too. And fuck off. But also thank you for listening so intently.

• 43:09Drew Afualo?

  Yes, love you.

• 43:10Speaker 02

  But love you and thank you so much for your support. But like, yeah, I mean, all the research you have to do as well on people, like it's just, did you see the clip? Of, uh, Charli XCX on Smartless? Where I don't remember which guy it was, but one of them was asking her if she wanted kids. And she was like, I don't think so. And one of them goes, well, when you meet the right person, you might want kids. And she goes, well, I'm married.

• 43:39Drew Afualo?

  She's married.

• 43:40Speaker 02

  She's like, I'm married, so.

• 43:42Drew Afualo?

  Hopefully I didn't shoot.

• 43:42Speaker 02

  Twenty seconds of silence. Just. Oh, like, don't know that Charli XCX is married?

• 43:49Drew Afualo?

  Like, girl.

• 43:50Speaker 02

  Crazy.

• 43:51Drew Afualo?

  I know, especially since her wedding was like, all over the fucking place. Like, everybody was seeing pictures of it.

• 43:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:57Drew Afualo?

  Even from afar.

• 43:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:59Drew Afualo?

  Dumois was on the phone constantly that day. They were fucking posting thousands of pictures of her wedding.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  And it does make you feel better, like, doing press, because sometimes you do press and you can tell people do not care. You don't know who you are, what you've done.

• 44:13Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Couldn't care less.

• 44:15Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  And whatever, it's another day at work for them and I get it. But when you see that happen, even to like, one of the biggest stars in the whole world, you're like, okay. So it happens to everyone.

• 44:24Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so everyone.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  Okay, alright, got it.

• 44:26Drew Afualo?

  Perfect, that does make, yeah, a little bit, that does make me feel a little bit about it.

• 44:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 44:29Drew Afualo?

  That is, because I, that's how I felt about the, the girl saying I was pregnant. Because, um, in my book, I explicitly talk about not wanting children and why. So I'm like, you should read my book. You should familiarize yourself a little bit more with me.

• 44:43Speaker 02

  I will say, because I, like I said, I'm writing my book right now and it's hard. And, uh, I, I, the only thing that's helped me get through it is I go, most people aren't gonna read this.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  It's long.

• 44:59Drew Afualo?

  Don't say that.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  There, but you know, there's a little bit. It's, hey, it's a long commitment.

• 45:06Drew Afualo?

  It is.

• 45:06Speaker 02

  To read a book.

• 45:07Drew Afualo?

  It is.

• 45:08Speaker 02

  And so I go, even if it's bad, most people aren't gonna know it's bad. Like, anyone has, can watch a stand-up special for an hour and be like, this sucks. But, a whole book?

• 45:17Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 45:18Speaker 02

  I mean. So that's really helped me a lot, actually. It's just going, it can be bad, it's okay.

• 45:24Drew Afualo?

  Don't do that shit, I'm sure it's gonna be wonderful and amazing.

• 45:28Speaker 02

  We'll see.

• 45:28Drew Afualo?

  And writing, how do you find the write, the book writing process? How are you finding it?

• 45:31Speaker 02

  You know what's funny is I actually really enjoy it.

• 45:33Drew Afualo?

  It's nice.

• 45:34Speaker 02

  And that's making me nervous. Because I'm like, mm.

• 45:37Drew Afualo?

  Might have to get into it or what?

• 45:38Speaker 02

  No, I just am like, you're enjoying it too much, which means this is probably garbage.

• 45:43Drew Afualo?

  What are you talking?

• 45:44Speaker 02

  I, look, I don't know, I can turn anything into a negative.

• 45:47Drew Afualo?

  I was gonna say.

• 45:48Speaker 02

  But like, I wanted to be like a young adult novelist before I did stand-up, when I was like fourteen, you know? So, I'm kind of like, oh shit, like, I, I actually do like this, because I wasn't ever sure. I got into stand-up and I was like, this is my whole thing forever. And so to finally be in a place where I'm like...

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• 46:41Speaker 02

  Writing a book and kind of living the life that my 14-year-old self wanted to live.

• 46:46Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 46:46Speaker 02

  It was nice to be like, oh, I wake up every day and I have a routine and I have a word count to hit.

• 46:51Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  I really enjoy, like, I feel very fulfilled by the end of the day after writing alone.

• 46:59Drew Afualo?

  You're like...

• 47:00Speaker 02

  In my house.

• 47:01Drew Afualo?

  You're literally in my head, bitch. Because when I wrote my book, it was the same thing.

• 47:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:06Drew Afualo?

  Like, I was like, I'm loving this. Low-key, I'm loving this, but like, we'll see. But that, because I was writing my own book, I have a photographic memory. Not a flex, just a fact.

• 47:17Speaker 02

  That is a flex.

• 47:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, I have a photographic memory, so I can read very fast and I remember almost everything I've ever read, ever. Which is why I'm like, filled with facts about things that I shouldn't really know. Like, my sister once was like, "You know so many things, but you never fucking read." And I was like, "Okay." And she means like historically accurate things. I just remember a lot of things I've ever, whatever. So, things imprint in my brain, really. So, when I was writing my own book, I stopped reading nonfiction. Like, I stopped reading any sort of feminist theory, any sort of like self-help, empowerment, anything like that. I stopped reading all of it as I was writing because I didn't want anything to like imprint in my brain. And then I write it and then I'm like... I came up with that.

• 48:02Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 48:02Drew Afualo?

  But then really, it's just something I remembered from somewhere. Even some of the quotes, like, like, things that I've said many times in interviews that I wrote into my book, I literally Googled them to make sure nobody else said them. Because I was like, let me just make sure, okay, cool.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  I know, I do that with jokes, too.

• 48:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 48:18Speaker 02

  Or you'll write certain jokes and you're like, is that a certain person's? Like, I went, I've gone to certain people and been like, did you write this already? And they're like, no. And I'm like, okay, well, it seems like something you would have talked about.

• 48:29Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's so scary.

• 48:30Drew Afualo?

  I was a little worried and I, before I wrote, I wrote my own book. I like, had read a lot of self-help empowerment stuff. So I was like, just in case, I'm gonna cut myself off, no reading. So I didn't read anything like that, so I, I read fiction instead.

• 48:44Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 48:45Drew Afualo?

  Which I loved, because I haven't read fiction since I was like a teenager in high school. So I was like, oh my god, I should read more fiction books. So I started reading more fiction, that's how I get, got into like romanticy books.

• 48:56Speaker 02

  That's when you started reading Akatar?

• 48:57Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 48:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:58Drew Afualo?

  Because that was me like venturing into that world of adult fiction. And then I was like, after I finished my book and it went, well, thank god, phew. Um, then I told my publisher when they're like, let's do another book. And I was like, I'm only thirty, so I have no more advice to give.

• 49:13Speaker 02

  Right.

• 49:14Drew Afualo?

  I got nothing else on me, bitch, like, and I told them, what do you guys think about fiction? Because I've read so many, so that's my next book.

• 49:21Speaker 02

  I fucking love that. Yeah, well, and that's kind of how I feel, exactly.

• 49:26Drew Afualo?

  Yes, that's what I'm saying.

• 49:26Speaker 02

  About this, I'm like, I know everyone just wants me to write the comedian memoir essays book.

• 49:32Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  And I can do that and I will.

• 49:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  And then I want to write

• 49:36Drew Afualo?

  Yes!

• 49:36Speaker 02

  The young adult fantasy novel.

• 49:37Drew Afualo?

  Let's do it!

• 49:39Speaker 02

  And it's like, once they know I can finish a book, maybe they'll be more open to other ideas, is that what you found?

• 49:44Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 49:44Speaker 02

  Where once you wrote a bestseller, they were like?

• 49:46Drew Afualo?

  Yes. I was like, and I didn't even know, really, at the time that I wanted, like you were saying, I like, am enjoying myself, but I didn't know, like, that's what I really wanted to write, until I started writing. So then, once I wrote my first one, like, because my first book, obviously it's about me, which like, yeah, it was awesome. This one, I'm like having a blast.

• 50:03Speaker 02

  That's so fun.

• 50:05Drew Afualo?

  Every meeting I get on, I'm like, oh my god, I love this project!

• 50:08Speaker 02

  Did you, when they were like, you have to be on the cover of your book, were you like?

• 50:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 50:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:14Drew Afualo?

  Cause I was, is that how you feel too?

• 50:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. I said to my editor, I was like, well, I don't, she goes, you should start thinking about the cover. And I said, well, yeah, I have some, I would go, but it doesn't have to be me, right? And she goes, are you kidding me?

• 50:24Drew Afualo?

  That's literally what I said. I said, it doesn't have to be a picture of me, right? And they were like, no, are you dumb?

• 50:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. They were like, you're an idiot respectfully.

• 50:31Drew Afualo?

  Hey idiot girl.

• 50:31Speaker 02

  Thought I was kidding. I was like, no, I thought it was actually pretty cool and humble. I thought you'd be like, I thought you'd be like, thank you so much. You know, most people insist on being on the cover of their book.

• 50:41Drew Afualo?

  You're not like other authors.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

• 50:44Drew Afualo?

  So I was being a pick me. Me too.

• 50:46Speaker 02

  No.

• 50:46Drew Afualo?

  I did the same thing. I said the same shit and I was like, I just feel like it's corny. I feel like it's super corny. I know, I felt like, and then like they, one of the things we made peace with was me covering my face. That was one of them because they will tell you this, it sells books when you're on the cover.

• 51:01Speaker 02

  Cause I know.

• 51:02Drew Afualo?

  Most people can't even read. There's a media literacy crisis going on right now. So they'll be like, I know her.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  And the people who don't even necessarily know your name will be like, I've seen them.

• 51:11Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 51:12Speaker 02

  And it's enough to make them just pick it up.

• 51:13Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. So like I, I literally shot test covers like with my, my hairmaker artist. Cause the one that's actually on the cover of my book, I shot in my house, in my kitchen.

• 51:23Speaker 02

  Really?

• 51:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. My, my cousin who does my hair and makeup, he took the pictures of me, like lammed me and then took the pictures of me. So like we shot those pictures, but we did test ones before. Cause I was trying to do just my middle finger or something like that. I was trying to meet in the middle. And I did mockups like on.

• 51:39Speaker 02

  Once they see this.

• 51:40Drew Afualo?

  Oh girl, Canva Pro. I was like, oh, I get Canva Pro involved?

• 51:43Speaker 02

  Don't even get me started. Bryn knows. I have been on Canva Pro like crazy for the special, for the book. I'm like, I just threw this together. Is this anything? How about this? How about this direction? And they're like, we're gonna get some professionals on it.

• 51:58Drew Afualo?

  When I'm like, I'm like, when I'm like pitching it to them and then they're not listening, they're like, mm. I'm like, let me get on Canva. I'm gonna make something on Canva.

• 52:05Speaker 02

  I'm gonna make something on Canva.

• 52:06Drew Afualo?

  And I'm gonna text it to you and you tell me.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  I looked at one of the earliest, uh, like mockups I did for the special. And I was like, I was so proud of this. Looked at it, literally the Disneyland font. Literally the Disneyland font.

• 52:20Drew Afualo?

  No one's ever used this font before.

• 52:22Speaker 02

  Why is this so good? It was called like pirate something. And I'm such a fucking basic ass bisexual. I'm like, the pirate one. The pirate one is good. Done.

• 52:33Drew Afualo?

  No, for real. I, I did the same thing. I, I did the mockup and everything and they were like.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  Did they do the thing where they go, "It's helpful to know what you like"?

• 52:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they're like, "This is good. Like, this is good for us."

• 52:44Speaker 02

  It's helpful to know what you gravitate for.

• 52:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so we know where to go.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 52:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, thank you for your, I appreciate your contributions. And I was like, "Perfect, perfect."

• 52:52Speaker 02

  You're like, "So we'll just, I feel like it's done." You're like, "So print it."

• 52:56Drew Afualo?

  And I was like, "Let's get to print." I know, I told them the same thing about, like, because of me on the cover, I was also cringing about that too. And I was like, "I just don't want to be like, on the cover."

• 53:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, you don't want one of these.

• 53:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly. I was like, "And I don't want one where I look like pensive." Like, you know, with authors, they always do this one, like, head in the hand.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  Well, you know they would've had you do like, hands on the hips.

• 53:20Drew Afualo?

  Girl.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  Wide stance.

• 53:21Drew Afualo?

  For real.

• 53:22Speaker 02

  Where they're like, "Do like..."

• 53:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  "Oh my god, I hate it when you're in a photo shoot." And they go, "Do like, confident, like, like, I'm, exactly, like, I'm the boss." Like, I'm, you know, like, and it's always a male photographer. And I'm in charge. And like, maybe do to the side a little bit.

• 53:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, how would you?

• 53:40Speaker 02

  And then put your hands on your hips, kind of like, attitude. Gimme, let's do an attitude one.

• 53:45Drew Afualo?

  Right, and they tell me to cross my arms. I was like, "That's why, like, my author photo is like my full face and my arms crossed to the side, like they wanted."

• 53:54Speaker 02

  Well, head on, you're a bouncer.

• 53:56Drew Afualo?

  No, literally, and when I did this-

• 53:57Speaker 02

  To the side, you're kind of like-

• 53:59Drew Afualo?

  Off, smart girl.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  I might solve a crime later.

• 54:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you never know.

• 54:03Speaker 02

  You never know.

• 54:03Drew Afualo?

  And even when I took it, we were laughing because it looks like Adriana's Insurance. Have you seen those billboards all around LA? That's literally what I look like in it, "Adriana's Insurance." And then I was like, "Yeah, so you put that on the inside cover, bitch, so nobody has to look at it." It's fucking humiliating. Every time you see it, I'm like, and literally, we joke about it all the time. They're like, "I look like, I'm gonna fight for you." That's what my, like, my author photos look like.

• 54:24Speaker 02

  And it's so tough too, because you're like, "I'm on the cover already." "Do I need an author photo too?"

• 54:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's what I told them. I was like, "Well, if I'm on the cover, they don't need an author photo." They're like, "Well, you're covering your face."

• 54:34Speaker 02

  Everyone's gonna be like, "Where's her mouth?"

• 54:36Drew Afualo?

  Well, I'm like, "What am I, Deadmau? Like, what the fuck? Nobody thinks I'm Marshmello. Like, it's fine, you can tell it's me and my name is on there." What the fuck? Like, nobody looks like me, it's okay. So we met in, somewhat in the middle. Yeah, but I get you. It's a big cringe, big cringe.

• 54:50Speaker 02

  It looks great, though. Yours isn't cringy. That's why I was like impressed.

• 54:53Drew Afualo?

  It worked out. Adrian's insurance on the inside cover, but that's okay. I'm will, I was willing, I made peace with it. Not a big deal, but I'm excited for your book.

• 55:00Speaker 02

  We'll see.

• 55:00Drew Afualo?

  And for you to eventually start writing a young adult fiction.

• 55:03Speaker 02

  I want to so bad.

• 55:04Drew Afualo?

  It's so fun.

• 55:05Speaker 02

  It's, oh my god.

• 55:06Drew Afualo?

  A blast.

• 55:07Speaker 02

  Well, you just, you get to go to like the fun part of your brain as opposed to the part of your brain that houses all of your childhood trauma. That's where I've been. I've just been in like the deep suppressed parts of me, crying every day. Reading my journals from like seventh grade, like, how did I feel about my body? Oh, bad? That's right.

• 55:27Speaker 02

  The worst process.

• 55:28Drew Afualo?

  Just wanted to check in real quick.

• 55:30Speaker 02

  Just wanted to check in real quick. I'm like, let me write about a fictional nineteen year old in a world with no phones. Whose parents are dead and she finds a fucking portal in a tree. Like, let me take a break from the self-analysis, please.

• 55:44Drew Afualo?

  So tea, because my, my family too hasn't read my book. Like, my mom and sister haven't read my book, like, other people in my family.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  Really nice stuff about you guys.

• 55:54Drew Afualo?

  Thank, I, that's what I said.

• 55:55Speaker 02

  Very flattering.

• 55:56Drew Afualo?

  But the reason why is because it's like, uh, really emotional. Like, there are two parts. Like, one of them is like what I told you when I found out I didn't want to have kids. I talk about having a pregnancy scare. That was one. One of the most traumatic things to ever fucking happened to me. So, yeah, writing about that was terrible. And then also when my sister came out to me, that story is also very hard. So it was like, like you said, revisiting and reopening these wounds to write something in a way that's not like too much information.

• 56:22Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 56:23Drew Afualo?

  Kind of freaky a little bit, like, it scares you away a little, but also enough to get you to want to like commit to the book and read the rest of it.

• 56:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh, it's, it's been really hard to decide, like, what's too much, what's too far.

• 56:37Drew Afualo?

  Right, I agree.

• 56:37Speaker 02

  What's like my real feelings, but not all of them?

• 56:42Drew Afualo?

  Yes, exactly.

• 56:43Speaker 02

  You just want to do just enough of the truth.

• 56:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 56:46Speaker 02

  But you can't like give everything away.

• 56:48Drew Afualo?

  Because we already give so much of ourselves.

• 56:50Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 56:51Drew Afualo?

  Which is why I struggled to write that book. That's why the fiction book doesn't feel like that at all, because I was like, I hate the parts about me. Me that I have to share because I already share so much and I already have a problem with people overstepping with me.

• 57:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:03Drew Afualo?

  And getting two in my life. So that's why I've said no to like reality TV, like a reality show about my family. Like I've gotten those many times. Which I always say, I'm like, I really think you guys will be bored. Like my family's not that crazy.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:17Drew Afualo?

  Like my family's like loud and annoying, but I think a lot of families are like generally speaking, but like my everyday life is very boring. So that's why I'm like. It's not nearly as, ooh, amazing.

• 57:27Speaker 02

  They'd be creating drama.

• 57:29Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. Which I was like, you'd have to orchestrate it and then that just invites more people into my world and I fucking hate that. So that's what I. With the book, that is what I felt better about though, cause like you were saying, I can decide, like the amount that's shared. To what degree, to what detail. And then after that, it felt like. You know, smooth sailing. Once I got past that first, like, initial writing of it and putting it through, then I felt better. But the fiction book. Is like imagining, it's like, uh, just like what you would love, like, cause I've read so many fiction books, like.

• 58:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:03Drew Afualo?

  Have you read, do you, do you like reading them?

• 58:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:05Drew Afualo?

  Their romantic ones, do you have any faves?

• 58:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, what did I just? Well, I did read all of the, I read all the fairy ones.

• 58:14Drew Afualo?

  The Akatar ones?

• 58:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I did read all of those.

• 58:18Speaker 02

  Um, I couldn't get into, but then I couldn't get into Fourth Wing. Is that romantic though?

• 58:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it is. That's the one with the dragons.

• 58:25Speaker 02

  Okay. I just read one that's, I don't think.

• 58:30Speaker 02

  I think it's technically young adult, cause there's not like a bunch of like smut in it or anything, but it was really good. I think it's called The Ember and the Ashes.

• 58:38Speaker 02

  It's really good.

• 58:39Drew Afualo?

  Okay, team.

• 58:39Speaker 02

  And I read the first one, cause my writing partner got it for me. And then I was like, oh my god, there's like, I think there's two or three more of them.

• 58:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 58:47Speaker 02

  And so I like went to the bookstore to get the rest of them and I go to the fantasy section and I can't find them and I'm like, oh, these are for kids.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  And I was like, it's fine.

• 58:58Drew Afualo?

  It's the part where the Winnie the Pooh corner, like you're like.

• 59:01Speaker 02

  It's right before that, it's right before that, and I just got the box set and I was like, these are coming home with me. And then the one I'm reading right now, um, which is like lesbian vampires is the I always get the title wrong. It's the V E Schwab one.

• 59:18Speaker 02

  Bury bury my bones in the soil at midnight. Is that right?

• 59:23Drew Afualo?

  Holy shit, that's the whole title?

• 59:25Speaker 02

  Someone Google it, someone look it up, because I want to get it right.

• 59:27Drew Afualo?

  They say you make it up.

• 59:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, Brendan and I were like, are you still reading bury bury the soil at the midnight bones? Are you are you also reading the and bury me slowly quietly at night? Where are you, what are you doing? We always get bury.

• 59:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:43Speaker 02

  Bury. Oh my god, I did not get it right. Bury our bones in the midnight soil.

• 59:49Drew Afualo?

  That's the whole title?

• 59:50Speaker 02

  By V E Schwab. Yes, great. Okay, thank god.

• 59:53Drew Afualo?

  Lesbian vampires?

• 59:55Speaker 02

  And it's good.

• 59:56Drew Afualo?

  Interesting.

• 59:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:58Drew Afualo?

  Look, my sister's literally downloading it.

• 1:00:01Speaker 02

  It's really good. It's really good.

• 1:00:03Drew Afualo?

  I know, she hasn't gone, she loves reading fiction and lesbian ones, but she doesn't like romantically because there isn't a lot of lesbian ones that she's been able to find.

• 1:00:11Speaker 02

  That one?

• 1:00:12Drew Afualo?

  Because the straight ones she can't get into.

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  Awesome. It's also like jumping between times. Between like two characters so far.

• 1:00:19Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I love that.

• 1:00:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's really good.

• 1:00:22Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god. I've read quite a few good ones.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, what have you read that's good?

• 1:00:26Drew Afualo?

  I've

• 1:00:27Speaker 02

  Because Akatar, I was like, I'll probably never read this again.

• 1:00:29Drew Afualo?

  No, never. I I'm never gonna read that one again. It was fun, though. It was a good like

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  Good time.

• 1:00:33Drew Afualo?

  There were certain books, though, in that series where I was like, like the fourth one. And Akatar, I was like, hey, kill this thing. What what the fuck is the point? Like

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  I don't even remember which one was the fourth one.

• 1:00:42Drew Afualo?

  It was

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  The orange one?

• 1:00:43Drew Afualo?

  I know the colors of the books. The orange one's the last one. It's the one right before that. No, that's five.

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  Is the fourth one the tiny one?

• 1:00:50Drew Afualo?

  Tiny?

• 1:00:50Speaker 02

  There's like a Christmas book.

• 1:00:52Drew Afualo?

  Yes, Christmas book, yeah, the Christmas special, that's what they fucking call it.

• 1:00:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, because the bitch is shopping for presents, the whole goddamn book. Oh my god, kill me!

• 1:00:59Speaker 02

  Well, there are

• 1:01:00Drew Afualo?

  Get back to the war! What the fuck? We have a war on our hands.

• 1:01:04Speaker 02

  Shit is going down right now.

• 1:01:05Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, I'm sick to my stomach.

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  That's the thing about the war in those books. They're kind of like Hollywood over the holidays. They just shut down.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  No one's, no one's going to war until mid-January.

• 1:01:14Drew Afualo?

  Check in with me in January, right?

• 1:01:15Speaker 02

  Second week of January. I mean, there are books where like, the whole point is just like, Bryn's told me about these books. Bryn, I'm gonna keep referring to my sibling, I'm sorry, this is Bryn's here. But they have books that are apparently just like about bakeries. And the whole book is like describing things in the bakery.

• 1:01:32Drew Afualo?

  What the hell?

• 1:01:34Speaker 02

  I wasn't interested.

• 1:01:35Drew Afualo?

  You were not interested when I told you about that one.

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  I like it as a concept, I'm not gonna read about. You were like, they describe cinnamon rolls, but they don't call it a cinnamon roll.

• 1:01:43Drew Afualo?

  What on earth is going on?

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  It sounds relaxing. Did you listen to it? Yeah, it sounds very relaxing.

• 1:01:49Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that was nice, yeah, and I mean, in the audio, sure.

• 1:01:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, in the audio, sure.

• 1:01:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, why not? I, I do find it strange when people listen to smutty books via audio. Do you do that?

• 1:01:58Speaker 02

  No, but I do. But I do listen to audio porn. Cause like, don't, let's not pretend. I know, I'm like, I can't do a book, but pornography I will. That's actually, that's the only porn I can handle, is audio porn.

• 1:02:11Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, cause I feel like I'm sort of like, uh, you know, I'm like, well, you're working on your imagination.

• 1:02:16Drew Afualo?

  I was gonna say, I was like, what are you exercising that muscle?

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's about creativity for me.

• 1:02:21Drew Afualo?

  I gotta get, I gotta get creative up here.

• 1:02:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, it's not, I'm not even horny, I'm just inspired. As a writer.

• 1:02:27Drew Afualo?

  That's how I came up with the title of my special.

• 1:02:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, Prodigal Daughter.

• 1:02:30Drew Afualo?

  There you go. That's actually so, I, yeah, you're, you're weirdo for that, but that is true. I do get it.

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  No, it is weird.

• 1:02:36Drew Afualo?

  You are weird, but that is cool.

• 1:02:38Speaker 02

  But I didn't watch any porn before that, so I'm, to me.

• 1:02:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's true, you had to baby step.

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  Again, to go from porn is evil, you're going to hell if you even think about it.

• 1:02:47Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  To now I listen to audio porn, that's growth.

• 1:02:51Drew Afualo?

  I really, that is true, you're right, that is growth. I do think that is a little bit more of a commitment than watching it physically.

• 1:02:58Speaker 02

  Probably.

• 1:02:59Drew Afualo?

  Because listening feels a little more like sensual, like they're like whispering in your ear. Like, do you fuck with like Quinn or anything like that, like audio erotica?

• 1:03:05Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:03:06Drew Afualo?

  Tee.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're not, not into that?

• 1:03:09Drew Afualo?

  I mean, it's the same thing as reading.

• 1:03:10Speaker 02

  It's the same as romance, yeah.

• 1:03:11Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, if you think about it, it's the same thing as reading, you're just reading it yourself.

• 1:03:14Speaker 02

  But you can brag about reading books.

• 1:03:15Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:03:16Speaker 02

  And you can't brag about this.

• 1:03:17Drew Afualo?

  They look down, oh, they look down on ear porn?

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:19Drew Afualo?

  They shouldn't, it's all the same.

• 1:03:22Speaker 02

  Let's have some open minds, please, but you can say it about it. Although, sometimes you say that you read a certain book and people are like, isn't that just all sex? In that book, isn't that just like?

• 1:03:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like the Fifty Shades of Grey books.

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, well that is really just.

• 1:03:35Drew Afualo?

  That is, and I've read those books. I read them in college. They're terrible. They're really, really bad. Like, they're bad. They're poorly written and poorly structured. Like, the, the, the, I remember explaining, Carrie, like, is one of my best friends. She's here, she's my assistant. I forget, she reads a lot of the same books I do.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:53Drew Afualo?

  Um, so she's the only one in my friend group that can pace with me. Everybody else reads too slow. So she, she reads alongside me and I was telling her, I was like, have you ever read the Fifty Shades of Grey books? And she was like, no, I've never read those. Which I was like, don't, they're terrible. But I told her the whole plot. It's insane. Like, when you say, what happened, in the last book, you're like, what the fuck? It just felt like, what's another horrible thing I could just throw in here?

• 1:04:16Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:04:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, she has like, and also, I hate, like, when you talk about tropes in, like, fiction books. The one, if I could kill a trope with my bare hands, it would be a pregnancy one.

• 1:04:27Speaker 02

  Oh, she gets pregnant?

• 1:04:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, she ends up getting pregnant. And what's funny is, like, the dude in the book.

• 1:04:31Speaker 02

  Hasn't she been through enough?

• 1:04:32Drew Afualo?

  Right. She's already dealing with BDSM, now on top of that, now she has life, growing inside her. And it's because she wasn't getting her shots, which is, you know, I would say, a poster for contraception.

• 1:04:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:44Drew Afualo?

  Make sure you check in. But she, like, gets pregnant and then is, like, is kinda worried and then is like, actually, I think I'm really excited about this. Which makes sense, cause she's twenty-two. And then she.

• 1:04:54Speaker 02

  Twenty-two the whole time?

• 1:04:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, she's like twenty-two.

• 1:04:56Speaker 02

  All the books, she's twenty-two?

• 1:04:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I think he's like, thirty. I think he's like thirty-ish, and she's like twenty-two.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  I can't read books about twenty-two-year-olds anymore. I can't read books about college. I'm over, unless there are dragons, then you can be like twenty.

• 1:05:09Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:05:09Drew Afualo?

  That's why, that's why I think I like the romanticy ones, because every time I read the other ones, or try to, they're like, and I just graduated from high school.

• 1:05:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:18Drew Afualo?

  Close the book, I'm not reading that shit. I'm not reading that shit, I'm not reading about children. I even, and, and this is like, kinda funny, but when I sold my fiction book. One of the meetings I had with with a potential publisher, this is not my publisher. They asked me in earnest, they were like, are you interested in making the character twenty three? Because she's thirty in my books and then I

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  And you're like, fuck you, it's me.

• 1:05:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  I'm the I'm the main character.

• 1:05:43Drew Afualo?

  I literally said that. I was like, I told her in the meeting, I go, no.

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:47Drew Afualo?

  And she goes, no, I go, no, not even a little. Um, she's gonna be thirty and everybody else could be thirty. And also, it's okay. Because she's a fairy, so she's actually immortal. It actually doesn't matter. Time is actually a construct to her, if we're being honest.

• 1:05:58Speaker 02

  No, there's no romanticy books where they're thirty. I'm so excited. You are filling a hole in the market.

• 1:06:03Drew Afualo?

  I'm telling you.

• 1:06:04Speaker 02

  I'm so excited. Do you read normal fantasy or normal romance books as well? I can't do that.

• 1:06:10Drew Afualo?

  I'm trying. No, I haven't.

• 1:06:11Speaker 02

  It's hard.

• 1:06:11Drew Afualo?

  They're all fantasy ones. I've never read the like, I know there's like

• 1:06:14Speaker 02

  Emily Henry?

• 1:06:15Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah. The people we made on vacation, they made that on Netflix. That's also an Emily Henry book, I think.

• 1:06:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think so.

• 1:06:21Drew Afualo?

  I watched the movie. I was kind of like, the movie was cute, it was fun. But I was really, I hate a trope when one person, like someone is stringing along someone else for a long period of time.

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  I'm just, I always have a hard time with just be together.

• 1:06:37Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:06:37Speaker 02

  Is most romance movies, books, whatever. And I'm like, just be together. Who cares? That's why I like Bridgerton, because it's like, I understand why you can't. I understand why you can't. There's

• 1:06:46Drew Afualo?

  There's outside pieces in place. I know. I've heard, I haven't gotten into Bridgerton. I tried. I tried the first season. Three times and I just like couldn't get into it.

• 1:06:55Speaker 02

  Go to the next one. That's what everybody tells me. Everyone's like, man, fuck that one.

• 1:06:58Drew Afualo?

  Or or watch Queen Charlotte. Oh, yeah. People told me if I don't watch seasons, is that the one with Jonathan Bailey?

• 1:07:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:05Drew Afualo?

  Season two? Yeah, they said if not that one, then watch Queen Charlotte, because that's the good one. That's with King George, right?

• 1:07:10Speaker 02

  That one's really good.

• 1:07:11Drew Afualo?

  I do remember that one. I've I watched, I think, the first few episodes on TikTok. You know, you can watch them in like seventy two parts.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  Do you know what I just saw on TikTok in like seventy two parts? I didn't watch the whole thing, but I saw that it was in seventy two parts. High School Musical. And I think Disney put it out. It wasn't like, it wasn't just someone going, let's share my favorite movie from childhood. It was like Disney official.

• 1:07:31Drew Afualo?

  And they're a part one?

• 1:07:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:07:33Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 1:07:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:35Drew Afualo?

  And also, I Was never the same when High School Musical came out.

• 1:07:38Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:07:39Drew Afualo?

  I loved that movie.

• 1:07:40Speaker 02

  It was so.

• 1:07:41Drew Afualo?

  Like you wouldn't believe.

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  It changed everything.

• 1:07:44Drew Afualo?

  It did. I, it shifted my paradigm. I loved that fucking movie.

• 1:07:48Speaker 02

  And then, did you like Glee?

• 1:07:49Drew Afualo?

  I loved Glee.

• 1:07:50Speaker 02

  Cause Glee wasn't that far behind.

• 1:07:51Drew Afualo?

  My sister and I were big Gleeks, like in.

• 1:07:54Speaker 02

  We forget, we forget about Gle.

• 1:07:55Drew Afualo?

  That's true. We were losing the ancient texts.

• 1:07:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:59Drew Afualo?

  I, this is actually perfect too, cause I was recently telling my friend group, I like text them in our group chat, I was like, Guys, I think it's time we pick a show to all watch together, but it has to be an older one. Like one that's not, but it has to be finished and a little bit older, but not too old. So like.

• 1:08:13Speaker 02

  So Glee?

• 1:08:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. I suggested, I said, here are my thought starters. Let us know what you think. I was like Teen Wolf, Vampire Diaries, Glee.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  Vampire Diaries really holds up.

• 1:08:23Drew Afualo?

  I said that to Taylor.

• 1:08:26Speaker 02

  Really holds up.

• 1:08:27Drew Afualo?

  My friends are haters. None of them wanna watch it with me. I was like, I'm telling you, it's so good.

• 1:08:31Speaker 02

  They are missing out. I've had, I had Bryn watch some of it and Bryn was like confused and I said, this is how I felt when I watched it. Cause I didn't watch it when I was younger. I watched it as an adult.

• 1:08:41Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 1:08:41Speaker 02

  And I was like, why is this so good? Why is this so good? It didn't need to be this good.

• 1:08:47Drew Afualo?

  If you muscle through the, like.

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  The diary part.

• 1:08:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, the first half of season one, if you muscle through and you get to like two to four.

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  Perfect television.

• 1:08:56Drew Afualo?

  Prime television, prime.

• 1:08:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:58Drew Afualo?

  It was so, I was gagged every week.

• 1:09:00Speaker 02

  And then Needle Drops on the show really just takes you back to that time.

• 1:09:04Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  It's like, it's so nostalgic if you're a millennial.

• 1:09:08Drew Afualo?

  And it's so good.

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  And the, the acting is good.

• 1:09:11Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  Like even the lines that are bad, we were like, that's a great read. That's a great read. They're selling.

• 1:09:19Drew Afualo?

  Get that girl in my office.

• 1:09:20Speaker 02

  If I had read it in a script, I'd have been like, this is gonna be dog shit.

• 1:09:23Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:09:23Speaker 02

  And they kill it.

• 1:09:24Drew Afualo?

  I know, it's so good. And I literally have told them, I was like, we have to watch Vampire Diaries. It's so good. I was watching it religiously when I was in college, like when it was still going. And I remember when I stopped watching.

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  Was it when they went to college?

• 1:09:38Drew Afualo?

  No, it was when, um, Steph, not even then, I could've, I could've cut out then, cause then it started getting crazy and I was like, this is ridiculous and stupid.

• 1:09:44Speaker 02

  That's when I stopped.

• 1:09:45Drew Afualo?

  Towards, me too. Like, I was like, I'm over it. It was when Stefan and Elena officially decided that they were never gonna be together ever again. It was literally, I'm not kidding. There was probably about ten minutes left in the episode, but there's a part where they're sitting across from each other and then he goes, she goes, friends forever?

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:10:02Drew Afualo?

  He goes, yeah, close my laptop. I never watched it again. I was like, fuck this show.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  Do you know what happens after that?

• 1:10:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:09Speaker 02

  You know spoilers? I know like a couple.

• 1:10:10Drew Afualo?

  I know, I know like the majority of it, but again, like I said, it gets insane. And then Stefan and Caroline end up together.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:10:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they end up together, they end up having children, he ends up dying, goes into the afterlife, then Damon ends up switching places with him. Bonnie starts dating another guy who also dies.

• 1:10:28Speaker 02

  I thought Bonnie and Stefan dated.

• 1:10:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, they date for a little too.

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  Everyone dates. It's just, that's what happened with Glee too.

• 1:10:35Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:10:35Speaker 02

  Is they just started going, what about these two people? What if they hooked up for an episode and a half?

• 1:10:41Drew Afualo?

  Like, let's just throw darts at a wall and let's see.

• 1:10:43Speaker 02

  Truly though.

• 1:10:44Drew Afualo?

  That is how it felt.

• 1:10:44Speaker 02

  It just felt like they were hopping online going, what does Tumblr wanna see? Let's do that.

• 1:10:49Drew Afualo?

  And they're not going to the right sources. They're not, cause I, and I, I literally, every time I pick up, uh, like, I'm like, this is my guy, like, if there's like a love triangle of sorts.

• 1:10:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:58Drew Afualo?

  Which is what I'm like writing into my book because I think love triangles are fun.

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  They're the best.

• 1:11:02Drew Afualo?

  If they sustain, like I rewatched the Twilight movies, they're bad, obviously, but they're so perfect.

• 1:11:08Speaker 02

  The first one's kind of good.

• 1:11:09Drew Afualo?

  Right, but they're so perfect though. Like, they're bad, but they're perfect. And like, I rewatched Eclipse last year.

• 1:11:15Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:11:15Drew Afualo?

  But the scene when they're in the tent and like he's low key cucking Edward, like Edward's in the cuck chair and he's in the, in the sleeping bag with her.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  That was crazy.

• 1:11:24Drew Afualo?

  I watched that whole scene. I was like, god, this is so good. Oh, I love it. Oh my god, it's so good. Like, it's, it's so good.

• 1:11:31Speaker 02

  It's so great.

• 1:11:31Drew Afualo?

  It's terrible.

• 1:11:32Speaker 02

  We, we watched Heated Rivalry also. Have you seen Heated Rivalry?

• 1:11:35Drew Afualo?

  I haven't watched it yet.

• 1:11:36Speaker 02

  You haven't watched it yet?

• 1:11:36Drew Afualo?

  I am very familiar though.

• 1:11:37Speaker 02

  Okay, I mean, of course.

• 1:11:39Drew Afualo?

  I know like pretty much everything that happens.

• 1:11:40Speaker 02

  You're busy? What's going on?

• 1:11:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:42Speaker 02

  I don't, I'm so, you don't wanna be part of the world?

• 1:11:44Drew Afualo?

  I, I literally told someone this, yeah, cause I watched this other show on Netflix called, um, what is it? Finding Her Edge. Ever heard of it?

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  You watched that before Heated Rivalry?

• 1:11:53Drew Afualo?

  That's what everybody told me. Everybody was like, why would you watch that before Heated Rivalry?

• 1:11:57Speaker 02

  I haven't seen it. I don't know if it's good or not. I'm not commenting on that.

• 1:12:00Drew Afualo?

  And I know it doesn't compare to Heated Rivalry. I know it's bad compared to Heated Rivalry.

• 1:12:02Speaker 02

  Are you scared to watch Heated Rivalry now because of all the hype?

• 1:12:04Drew Afualo?

  No, it's more. More so like, this is what I explained. I literally explained this last night too, because a lot of people were like, what the fuck, you watched this bullshit before?

• 1:12:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:12Drew Afualo?

  And I said, here's why. It's like a perfect scrolling show. I can still rot my brain and watch.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, heated rivalry is not a second screen show.

• 1:12:20Drew Afualo?

  When I have things that I love dearly like that, I need to clear my calendar.

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:12:25Drew Afualo?

  I don't have ti- I have to board up the windows. Like, I have to make sure I have bottled water in my house. I have too many things. I was like, I have to be in the right space.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  Okay, good. I'm glad.

• 1:12:35Drew Afualo?

  Unlock it.

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  That's a good excuse for not watching it.

• 1:12:37Drew Afualo?

  That's why I'm like, you gotta give me time. I will make my way back to it. Someone said, you're so me, because uh, that's why I feel so nervous when people are so excited about something, that I have to watch when the glitter fades.

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  Okay. Okay. Look, I watched it. I watched it like on Christmas, and that was late. Like, I watched it when like, everything had come out, and I was nervous. I was like, there's no way this is gonna be as good as everyone's saying. And then it was even better than everyone. And now I've seen a bunch of it, but I had, I made one of my best friends watch heated rivalry. And she was like, oh my god, this is so good. She was like texting me throughout. And we were like, when was the last time we felt like this? And we realized it was when Kurt and Blaine kissed. Yep. That's when I wa- do you remember?

• 1:13:26Speaker 02

  And then they kissed. I can still remember where I was. That was everything, okay? Darren Criss on Glee, when he was still a Warbler?

• 1:13:37Drew Afualo?

  That was a problem for me. Oh, you wanna hear something so funny? Hold on, I'll literally show you right now, because on my Spotify, I literally looked up, I'm not gonna teach your boyfriend how to dance with you.

• 1:13:47Speaker 02

  So good.

• 1:13:48Drew Afualo?

  The only version that matters.

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  The only version that should exist.

• 1:13:51Drew Afualo?

  And we were on, my sister and I were on a Glee podcast with Jenna Ushkowitz.

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  Oh, right, they do like a rewatch.

• 1:13:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, what's his? And Kevin McHale. We were on their podcast, because we were big Glee fans, and we talked about like, that was one of our favorite covers from the show, was I'm not gonna teach your boyfriend how to dance with you. And then they were both like, that is so funny you say that, because that is a lot of people's favorite cover, and I don't know why that one. And I was like, you know why for me? My theory, other than the fact that it bangs, other than that, my theory is because that was the first time I was, when I was a huge Glee, and I watched Darren Criss, and I said, hold on, now why he a little?

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  It took you that long?

• 1:14:29Drew Afualo?

  A little bit, like, hold on, like, I was like, he's, why is he fine, low key, like, when I was watching?

• 1:14:34Speaker 02

  We didn't feel like that during Teenage Dream?

• 1:14:36Drew Afualo?

  I felt like, because it felt like, I was like, oh, so cute, like, that's so sweet, and then with that, it felt like, hmm, interesting. I was like, I feel like a woman watching this.

• 1:14:47Speaker 02

  I feel like a woman.

• 1:14:48Drew Afualo?

  I was like, he's a gay man, by the way, playing a gay man, and he was nothing but gay.

• 1:14:51Speaker 02

  He's not a gay man.

• 1:14:52Drew Afualo?

  Not in real life.

• 1:14:53Speaker 02

  Not in real life.

• 1:14:53Drew Afualo?

  But in the show, he is.

• 1:14:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, in the show, he is.

• 1:14:55Drew Afualo?

  His canon.

• 1:14:55Speaker 02

  What if I didn't know?

• 1:14:56Drew Afualo?

  His canon is-

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:14:59Speaker 02

  Are, what?

• 1:15:00Drew Afualo?

  What?

• 1:15:01Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:15:01Drew Afualo?

  No, they were like, an OTP, for sure.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:04Drew Afualo?

  They were like-

• 1:15:05Speaker 02

  It was important.

• 1:15:06Drew Afualo?

  Man.

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  It was really important.

• 1:15:07Drew Afualo?

  And I loved, like, Santana was like, one of our favorite characters on Glee.

• 1:15:11Speaker 02

  Santana and Brittany?

• 1:15:13Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:15:13Speaker 02

  Everything.

• 1:15:14Drew Afualo?

  Everything about their whole relationship.

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  Loved it.

• 1:15:16Drew Afualo?

  I rewatched Glee, I think, like, during the pandemic, I rewatched it, I showed it to my man, because he had never watched it, and I actually had never seen the very last season.

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  I still haven't.

• 1:15:26Drew Afualo?

  It's honestly good.

• 1:15:27Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:15:27Drew Afualo?

  They did a great job, like, it was a little annoying in certain parts, but for the most part, I was like, I feel like they ended it well.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  Oh, wow, okay.

• 1:15:33Drew Afualo?

  Did a good job with as long as that show was on the fucking air.

• 1:15:36Speaker 02

  It was on for a long time.

• 1:15:37Drew Afualo?

  But it was like, watching Santana, I was like, a beautiful, mean, hilarious bitch.

• 1:15:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:44Drew Afualo?

  It's nice to see myself represented on TV, I'll be honest. It's nice to see myself represented.

• 1:15:49Speaker 02

  Her version of Valerie?

• 1:15:50Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god, her version of all, like, even the mine by Taylor Swift.

• 1:15:55Speaker 02

  So good.

• 1:15:56Drew Afualo?

  When she's breaking up with Brittany, I mean.

• 1:15:59Speaker 02

  And the writing on that show was very funny.

• 1:16:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  They were a lot, there were a lot of really good jokes on that show.

• 1:16:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  This is now a Glee rewatch podcast.

• 1:16:06Drew Afualo?

  Now, now, I was like, now, next what we missed on Glee.

• 1:16:08Speaker 02

  But we're not watching the episodes, we're just gonna remember random moments that resonated with us, and go, and do you remember that one part? We're gonna jump around a lot.

• 1:16:17Drew Afualo?

  I remember when I watched them do the mashup of Let's Have a Kiki and Turkey Lurkey Time.

• 1:16:21Speaker 02

  When they started doing mashups.

• 1:16:24Drew Afualo?

  Oh.

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  They didn't have to do that.

• 1:16:26Drew Afualo?

  The Let's Have a Kiki one.

• 1:16:27Speaker 02

  Above and beyond.

• 1:16:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they had the most famous people in the world going on that show, too, that, and Let's Have a Kiki, that was like, Sarah Jessica Parker opens up the number. And I, I listened to that till my ears bled. I was like, this is the greatest mashup I've ever heard.

• 1:16:43Speaker 02

  It's genuinely so good. Oh my god.

• 1:16:45Drew Afualo?

  Well, we're so alike, you and me. We're so alike. Which, speaking of, now we're gonna move on to your fun facts.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  Oh, yes. We didn't do fun facts last time. This is a new segment, right?

• 1:16:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we got real bored with the TikTok, so I was like, let's do fun facts. And now Amanda's my in-house Nardwar.

• 1:17:02Speaker 02

  I'm so scared about my fun facts and what they could be.

• 1:17:05Drew Afualo?

  So this first one, I mean, you did talk about this the first time you were here, but your comedy career started when you were 16 and your dad signed both of them up for a stand-up class in a church basement.

• 1:17:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, it wasn't in a basement. I don't know why, like, we live in Southern California, there's no basements here.

• 1:17:21Drew Afualo?

  Unless something bad's happening.

• 1:17:23Speaker 02

  It just sounded good, I guess, to someone a long time ago and they wrote basement. It's not important enough for me to ever correct anybody, but I respect you. So it was just a room. It was sort of like a, it was probably like a kid's, uh, you know,

• 1:17:39Speaker 02

  classroom.

• 1:17:39Drew Afualo?

  Or like the nursery at a church?

• 1:17:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:17:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, the nursery room. So there's like Noah's Ark on the wall.

• 1:17:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, something like that.

• 1:17:46Drew Afualo?

  The big, like, pictures of the lions.

• 1:17:48Speaker 02

  We were at like desks, I think. Yeah.

• 1:17:51Drew Afualo?

  Learning the art of stand-up?

• 1:17:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's why, like, this new special, Prodigal Daughter, February 24, it's out, it's out, sorry, forgetting. Don't need to say the date. Uh, but that's why this new special is like, it's a lot about how I started in churches. And quite frankly, the fact that I'm sitting on a gold mine, I could totally turn the ship around anytime I wanted. And the narrative is, you got me back, right? I lost my way for a bit, but here I am.

• 1:18:17Drew Afualo?

  But guess what? The Lord always finds me.

• 1:18:19Speaker 02

  The Lord always finds me.

• 1:18:22Drew Afualo?

  My sister, before I walked to the carpet at the Oscars for the first time, I wore a wig. And she went, "You wanted it to look like that, right?" And then I went, "Look like what?" And she goes, "Never mind." And then I walked out.

• 1:18:34Speaker 02

  It looks good.

• 1:18:34Drew Afualo?

  And she goes, "No, it doesn't like, it doesn't look bad. I just was making sure." Making sure what?

• 1:18:39Speaker 02

  Bryn's literally said that exact thing to me, I think. It's like, is this what you want? Is this who you want to be? Okay. The stillest face you've ever seen.

• 1:18:47Drew Afualo?

  No expression.

• 1:18:48Speaker 02

  Sure you wanted it to look. Trying to look neutral, just, is that, so this is good for you? Do you feel, that's my, like, if we're being honest, when you go, "Do you feel good?" That hurts my feelings.

• 1:19:02Speaker 02

  And this is the place we unpack that.

• 1:19:05Drew Afualo?

  Dead eyes. Do you feel good? It's genuine. I know it is, but it, the way I interpret it in my brain is, should I not?

• 1:19:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, literally.

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• 1:20:20Drew Afualo?

  That's so true. You're right. Wisdom. Literally.

• 1:20:23Speaker 02

  You are. You're wiser than me.

• 1:20:24Drew Afualo?

  It's like, very literal and very like my, like my sister. My sister literally tells me, what does she say? She goes, "No, it doesn't look bad."

• 1:20:34Speaker 02

  Does she ever go, "It doesn't look bad. It doesn't look like you."

• 1:20:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. Or she'll be like, "I mean, like, I just, I don't know if you wanted it to look that way."

• 1:20:41Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:20:41Drew Afualo?

  That's what she'll say to me. And I go, "Look like what way?"

• 1:20:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:44Drew Afualo?

  And she goes, "Nothing."

• 1:20:45Speaker 02

  Is this what you're going for?

• 1:20:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:47Speaker 02

  And you're like, "I thought it was."

• 1:20:49Drew Afualo?

  And then, and then she'll just go again, "It doesn't look bad."

• 1:20:52Speaker 02

  But it's something in the eyes.

• 1:20:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:54Speaker 02

  I'm like, what do you... So it doesn't look good, it just doesn't look bad? What do you mean?

• 1:20:58Drew Afualo?

  We're overanalyzing.

• 1:20:59Speaker 02

  We are overanalyzing, but I don't think we're wrong.

• 1:21:02Drew Afualo?

  No, not at all.

• 1:21:03Speaker 02

  That's the thing.

• 1:21:04Drew Afualo?

  And I think both of our siblings are being real ones.

• 1:21:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:06Drew Afualo?

  And trying to help us. Uh, but a little hurting my feelings.

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:10Drew Afualo?

  Love that.

• 1:21:11Speaker 02

  Just a little teeny tiny bit.

• 1:21:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:13Speaker 02

  I did wanna also say about your Golden Globes carpet. The fact that you brought a little case of snacks.

• 1:21:20Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god.

• 1:21:20Speaker 02

  Genius.

• 1:21:21Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 1:21:22Speaker 02

  So smart. And when you were like, "I even have lactaid," I was so impressed.

• 1:21:25Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 1:21:26Speaker 02

  I was so impressed.

• 1:21:27Drew Afualo?

  I have like a little pharmacy, like a little pharmacy. My mom actually made it for me. Um, but in it, like, when I do genuinely just carry lactaid because I am like a lactose person and I will shit myself. So like, I have to keep it on my person.

• 1:21:42Speaker 02

  And you don't wanna stop having it.

• 1:21:43Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly. I'm like, well, sometimes I have to enjoy life's little pleasures.

• 1:21:47Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:21:47Drew Afualo?

  And if I don't have lactaid, what am I gonna do?

• 1:21:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:49Drew Afualo?

  Run the risk? Of course not. So when I opened that, I was like, this is literally just mine, like, that I just have in my bag. And when I, uh, showed it to Liza, like, on the thing my mom wrote in there, cuz my anxiety meds are in there too. So one of them says Ativan and one says beta blockers.

• 1:22:04Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:22:06Drew Afualo?

  I showed it and she was like, "Oh my god, can I have some of those too?" And we laughed and then she goes, "Let me take a picture." "Oh my god, I have to show someone."

• 1:22:13Speaker 02

  She's like, "Actually, though, can I have that?"

• 1:22:15Drew Afualo?

  I was like, "I can give you one if you want." Just kidding, I'm kidding.

• 1:22:19Speaker 02

  We're kidding.

• 1:22:20Drew Afualo?

  Globes, if you see that, I was kidding.

• 1:22:21Speaker 02

  We're kidding.

• 1:22:22Drew Afualo?

  It's literally...

• 1:22:22Speaker 02

  And that's why you hired her, because she's kidding.

• 1:22:25Drew Afualo?

  Because I'm kidding and hilarious.

• 1:22:26Speaker 02

  Golden Globes, calm down.

• 1:22:28Drew Afualo?

  Calm down, oh my god. But yeah, the snacks thing, I used to have a tote bag. And I used to flip it inside out so there was no branding because I just had no time to get anything else. And then everybody made fun of my tote bag. Everybody was like, "Get that ugly ass bag outta here."

• 1:22:42Speaker 02

  No, the case was really good.

• 1:22:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and so I was like, I'm thinking of like a caboodle of sorts to like unveil like this.

• 1:22:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:48Drew Afualo?

  And it worked out great.

• 1:22:49Speaker 02

  It was fucking a Willy Wonka move.

• 1:22:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and then they're like, "Ooh." When stars see it, they're like, "Ooh, I love that." All about presentation.

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  It really is.

• 1:22:58Drew Afualo?

  I am but a tap dancing monkey on those carpets.

• 1:23:00Speaker 02

  That looks so hard, by the way. I would, I would shit my pants if I had to do that. It looks so scary.

• 1:23:07Drew Afualo?

  What's worse is like... Sometimes I tell people like they don't, I don't always have what they call a wrangler, which are people who can stand. Cause they make me stand behind something always, whether it's a gate, a bush.

• 1:23:18Speaker 02

  Someone to grab the famous people.

• 1:23:19Drew Afualo?

  To wrangle famous people. But they don't have to stop if they don't want to, obviously. So like, a lot of times I have to lean on being recognized by them. Which does tend to work in my favor. A lot of times like, the K-pop, right. I have to be, I have to be posed like Adriana's insurance, for them to see me. And sometimes I'll be like, if you just get them to look at me, like they'll, they'll recognize me. Uh, cause even the K-pop Demon Hunter Girls.

• 1:23:44Speaker 02

  You're doing your book cover.

• 1:23:45Drew Afualo?

  Right, for real. The K-pop Demon Hunter Girls, like, um, they were so busy, obviously everybody wanted to talk to them. And they were, they're so sweet and they stopped so many times. And then I was at the very end of carpet. So they were like walking past me and one of them saw me and she was like, I love you.

• 1:24:02Speaker 02

  That's the best.

• 1:24:03Drew Afualo?

  And I go period. And she goes, look, look, look, look, it's Drew from TikTok. And then they were like, oh my god, I love your stuff. I was like, you guys love me? And they're like, yeah, I'm all, enough to come over here? Come on over here!

• 1:24:13Speaker 02

  Prove it!

• 1:24:13Drew Afualo?

  Come here. And then they always come over.

• 1:24:15Speaker 02

  That's nice.

• 1:24:16Drew Afualo?

  Or if daughters, like sometimes they'll have wives or daughters that are walking with their spouses or their parents or whatever and they're like, oh my god, I fucking love you. I go, really? Who's your dad? Is he famous? Can he come over here? I'll ask, I will. I don't give a fuck. I'll ask every time. But sometimes like, they just walk right by you. It's a real hit or miss.

• 1:24:36Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh.

• 1:24:37Drew Afualo?

  It just depends.

• 1:24:38Speaker 02

  Does it bug you or are you just like, alright?

• 1:24:40Drew Afualo?

  No, I never get offended. Like I've never, I've had very few carpet interviews where people were rude or like dismissive. But sometimes like the snacks are a huge pull. So like at SAG, last year when I went to the SAG Awards last year. I told them I have snacks and liquor. Like they, they love the little shooters.

• 1:24:57Speaker 02

  Right, right, right.

• 1:24:58Drew Afualo?

  And I bring those too. So like, um, Evan from The Bear.

• 1:25:03Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:25:04Drew Afualo?

  He plays cousin. He hates interviews, hates doing carpet stuff. So he stopped like once and then he was walking. And one of the people that was with me, they were like, she has snacks and alcohol. And he was like, did you say alcohol? And she said, yeah. And he walked right to me. And then I was like, I'll give it to you after you answer a couple of questions. And then they're always really cool about it. They're always very, very nice, but like it's very rare that they're not fired up about the snacks. They do love those. And a lot of times they're fucking starving. Like they're like, oh my God, I'm so hungry. Can I take a couple? And I'm like, yeah, take whatever you want.

• 1:25:36Speaker 02

  And they're like, they laced up the corset. I can eat now. It's fine.

• 1:25:39Drew Afualo?

  Literally. I was like, no, go ahead. Suck on it so it lasts longer. Okay. More fun facts about you.

• 1:25:46Speaker 02

  Uh, this one says you were once fired from a comedy gig at a church over a tweet?

• 1:25:51Drew Afualo?

  Yep.

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  What was the tweet in question?

• 1:25:53Drew Afualo?

  The tweet was, uh, I'm like a wild animal in bed, way more afraid of you than you are of me. Ended up on Conan, no regrets. It's a good joke. Yeah, it's a good joke. It's a one liner. It's really good. And they were like, you can't, we have homeschoolers in the audience. Listen here, Jezebel.

• 1:26:09Speaker 02

  They did.

• 1:26:10Drew Afualo?

  You're not gonna come here and spread that sin. I'll tell you that.

• 1:26:15Drew Afualo?

  Damn, over a fire tweet?

• 1:26:17Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:26:17Drew Afualo?

  Well, you win some, you lose some.

• 1:26:19Speaker 02

  You win some, you lose some. And I was like, that was the moment that I was like, I never want to feel, since I've never been fired from anything. I was like, I'm a good kid. Like I've done everything. And so I was like, I'm never gonna feel this way again. I'm never doing a church again.

• 1:26:30Drew Afualo?

  And you know what? That worked out for the best.

• 1:26:32Speaker 02

  It did. And look, thank God, because if I hadn't made it in a secular world, that would have been tough. I'd still be on cruise ships right now.

• 1:26:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, or, or you'd have a private jet and you'd be the most famous Christian comedian.

• 1:26:46Speaker 02

  I would have had to go, I would, oh my God, Drew. I'm not even, I would have been the biggest church comedian.

• 1:26:53Drew Afualo?

  In the world.

• 1:26:54Speaker 02

  Working to, I would have been, I was getting paid more, like you had no business paying me as much as I was making when I was like 21. And I was the only person that, that was that young doing it. Everyone else is like a guy in their 40s, 50s, whatever, with a full family.

• 1:27:10Drew Afualo?

  Hates his wife.

• 1:27:10Speaker 02

  It's like, well, just like completely, completely different. And I was like, I, if I stay here, I'm gonna make it.

• 1:27:19Speaker 02

  And we can't do that.

• 1:27:21Drew Afualo?

  No, we can't.

• 1:27:21Speaker 02

  We can't do that.

• 1:27:22Drew Afualo?

  Don't make me do that.

• 1:27:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:27:24Drew Afualo?

  You would kill though. It's nice to have it in your back pocket.

• 1:27:26Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:27:26Drew Afualo?

  In case you ever need to pivot.

• 1:27:28Speaker 02

  It's my escape plan. It's my retirement plan. If I get cancelled, I know where I'm going. That's, that's what's happening. And I have, I have the whole pitch in my head.

• 1:27:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're doing a real Nicki Minaj pivot.

• 1:27:38Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 1:27:39Drew Afualo?

  I have some debts I have to settle. Sorry. I gotta be transphobic and I have to be racist. Yeah, I got some sharks after me, bitch. I gotta do something about it. I gotta do something about it. I gotta hit a, a far-right pipeline immediately.

• 1:27:51Speaker 02

  I don't think I'd be able to do that. I don't think I'd be able to do like the, the transphobic and all that stuff. But I think I would, I would just have to do the thing where like anytime someone's like, and you don't want them to use our bathrooms, right? I'd be like, I am so sorry. I have to pee so bad. I will be right back to finish the meet and greet. I'm gonna go.

• 1:28:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:07Speaker 02

  Just like avoid.

• 1:28:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, avoidance.

• 1:28:09Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry. I have diarrhea. I have to go. But, you know.

• 1:28:12Drew Afualo?

  Or you could say like, oh, I'm an artist. I don't get political.

• 1:28:15Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. I know. To be honest.

• 1:28:18Drew Afualo?

  Just say that.

• 1:28:19Speaker 02

  Dude, I was like that for years. I was like, we're all idiots. No one should, answered, like, I was like that dumb for a long time, for too long. I was like, we, no one wants to hear what we think. We're stupid. And it's like, no, only you're stupid. Other people are reading. Yeah.

• 1:28:33Drew Afualo?

  What a dumbass thing to say. I'm an artist. I don't get political.

• 1:28:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:37Drew Afualo?

  Mate.

• 1:28:38Speaker 02

  That is, that is how, that is how people say I'm conservative.

• 1:28:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:42Speaker 02

  Publicly, yeah.

• 1:28:43Drew Afualo?

  But unfortunately, I think gay people, I need them low-key to like me online. I do think, that's like one of those when they say like, I don't know, just, I don't know anything. I can't say anything. I just don't know.

• 1:28:54Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:28:55Drew Afualo?

  You don't know what.

• 1:28:56Speaker 02

  Truly me when I was younger. I'm like, I'm too fucking dumb. I can't do anything. And everyone's like, but you, that's your fault though for being stupid. That's fully on you though.

• 1:29:05Drew Afualo?

  Right. No, yeah, that's called ignorance.

• 1:29:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, there's nothing I could possibly do, except maybe read one thing. There's nothing I could do. I'm, my hands are tied here. I don't.

• 1:29:15Drew Afualo?

  What are we supposed to do, paying attention?

• 1:29:16Speaker 02

  I don't have access to the internet. So stupid.

• 1:29:19Drew Afualo?

  And you know what I'll say? I've made this joke for a while, um, because I thought Sydney Sweeney years ago, when her, when they found out her family was MAGA.

• 1:29:29Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:29:29Drew Afualo?

  Because they were wearing MAGA things in her mom's birthday.

• 1:29:31Speaker 02

  And weren't they, weren't they like, it was a bit?

• 1:29:34Drew Afualo?

  No, she literally responded herself and said, guys, it's my mom's birthday. Which I think.

• 1:29:40Speaker 02

  I thought she said they were wearing them as a joke or something, which I was like, what?

• 1:29:44Drew Afualo?

  Weird joke to make.

• 1:29:45Speaker 02

  It's not, I was like, that's like.

• 1:29:47Drew Afualo?

  In an, at an Aryan only party, it's a very weird joke to make.

• 1:29:49Speaker 02

  What publicist was like, just say it's a bit. Everyone knows you're hilarious, Sydney.

• 1:29:55Speaker 02

  Everyone knows you're a jokester. Just tell them you're doing another, you're doing another MAGA hat bit.

• 1:30:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're silly.

• 1:30:03Speaker 02

  Everyone loves the MAGA hat bit.

• 1:30:04Drew Afualo?

  And they know you love hats.

• 1:30:06Speaker 02

  And they know you love hats. Everyone's pretending they voted for Trump. It's hilarious.

• 1:30:13Drew Afualo?

  They know that, but she literally went, guys, it's my mom's birthday. Which has been a running joke in my repertoire since before I started doing this. Like, I was literally like, guys, it's my mom's birthday.

• 1:30:24Speaker 02

  This is what we do on mom's birthday.

• 1:30:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and like anytime.

• 1:30:27Speaker 02

  What are you doing on your mom's birthday?

• 1:30:28Drew Afualo?

  If someone tells me, yeah, they're like, you're being offensive, this is offensive, why would you do this? I go, guys, it's my mom's birthday.

• 1:30:34Speaker 02

  That's so funny.

• 1:30:35Drew Afualo?

  And I said, she's low key hilarious for doing that. Like, that's low key so funny. Like, she is not meaning to be funny at all, but that is hilarious.

• 1:30:42Speaker 02

  That is funny.

• 1:30:42Drew Afualo?

  And it's, it's similar to the, people are gonna die. Do you remember that? Like, people, and yeah, I mean, I guess people are gonna die, like, about Coachella being canceled. Funny.

• 1:30:52Speaker 02

  Was that about Coachella?

• 1:30:53Drew Afualo?

  Yes, bitch.

• 1:30:53Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I didn't know that.

• 1:30:55Drew Afualo?

  That was her on live pissed off, that was Vanessa Hudgens, obviously, pissed off that they canceled Coachella.

• 1:31:00Speaker 02

  I didn't know that was about Coachella.

• 1:31:03Drew Afualo?

  Which is like, could you be any more unplugged? Like, that's the funniest part. She's like, what do you mean I don't get to run around and fringe in the desert? What the fuck are you talking about?

• 1:31:12Speaker 02

  You know what's funny too? I will see people on TikTok, like, defending it now. They'll go, she was right. I'm like, what? Are you serious?

• 1:31:20Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah, just millions of people had to die because none of you wanted to believe it.

• 1:31:23Speaker 02

  And there's kids on TikTok going, people did die. It was inevitable. And you're like, what?

• 1:31:28Drew Afualo?

  Okay, let's not.

• 1:31:29Speaker 02

  They just watched High School Musical in 72 parts on TikTok.

• 1:31:31Drew Afualo?

  Right, right, right, right, right.

• 1:31:32Speaker 02

  And they're like, I'm a new fan.

• 1:31:35Drew Afualo?

  That's exactly what I'm talking about when I said the media literacy crisis is in the toilet. A lot of people don't have it anymore. But I just wanna say, I made that joke about guys, it's my mom's birthday. Like, I said that, I've said that publicly many times because I thought it was funny.

• 1:31:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:47Drew Afualo?

  Because it's ignorant and that is funny to me. And a lot of people were like, oh, that's fucked up to say about her, like, basically saying like, if I'm not endlessly complimenting women, then that means I must not love all women, right? Like, if I, if I think women do fucked up things, for some reason that means I'm not a real feminist.

• 1:32:04Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:32:04Drew Afualo?

  And I, and when I was on Trixie Mattel's YouTube channel, I made a joke to her that like, this is a running that I do on carpets. I've done this many times, even with guests in, in, on the show, where I've been like, well, I mean, we're about the same size. Where do you shop? Like, I make that joke intentionally. I've made it to men, I've made it to women, I've made it to other people too. Like, it's a funny joke and, and when they laugh, like, they, and they throw it back to me, it's fun. And I said, when I meet, if I ever meet her, because this is before anything else, I said, you bet your ass I'm gonna make that joke. Because it's gonna offend her. I can tell. Which ca- which then makes me laugh. Like, it makes me laugh that it would hurt your feelings to look like me. Lowkey, that's funny.

• 1:32:41Speaker 02

  Oh my god. I mean, I would, I don't know, I shouldn't say that, I guess. I guess, I'm like, I honestly don't even know if she would get it. Not, cause like, I feel like she might just be like,

• 1:32:52Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's where I'm saying, like, literally speaking, she'd be like, no, we don't look alike, and no, we're not the same size.

• 1:32:58Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:32:58Drew Afualo?

  Which then, like, it, jokes like that, like, force you to confront your biases in front of me.

• 1:33:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, you sink her career.

• 1:33:03Drew Afualo?

  I find that hilarious.

• 1:33:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:05Drew Afualo?

  When I made that joke on Trixie's channel, obviously that made her laugh. But a lot of people in the comments, because they clipped it and put it on YouTube, a lot of people were like, that's so, like, you know, that's fucked up. Like, that's really fucked up. I go, why is, because I'm a big hairy ogre? The fuck? Fuck you, oh. I was like, it's funny, it's a joke, and who cares? And then all this shit happened, and I said, so when I make another joke about guys, it's my mom's birthday?

• 1:33:28Speaker 02

  You're all gonna be cool about it.

• 1:33:29Drew Afualo?

  Don't wanna fucking hear it. Don't wanna fucking hear it, because I made that joke already. And I have made little jokes like that to people in the past that have been kinda rude or dismissive on carpets. And you're right, they don't get them. They don't get them at all. Like, they have no sense of humor at all. One guy on a carpet is like, actor.

• 1:33:46Speaker 02

  They're tired and...

• 1:33:47Drew Afualo?

  Right, and I made it, he was, I asked him a very simple question. He was giving me some bullshit ass answer. I think he was trying to be funny, or I don't know. But I asked him a question and he was like, "Oh, like at my, like I throw all these big parties, I throw these huge parties at my house." He kept saying that over and over again. "I throw these huge parties and we make ice cream sandwiches at my house." And I, and he said, "I throw these huge parties at least three times in the time I was talking to him." And I go, "Okay, all these parties and I haven't been to one? That's fucked up." And then he goes, "I don't even know you. I just met you." Like, "I'm fucking stupid." And he says that to me and I go, "And what does that mean? I can't come to your house? What does that mean?" And then he goes, "Anyways." And he like finished his answer.

• 1:34:32Speaker 02

  Wasn't like trying to do a bit back?

• 1:34:34Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 1:34:34Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:34:35Drew Afualo?

  Cause I think he thought I was being very literal, so that's why. And even some people in the comments caught it a little bit and some of my things where they were like, "Why would he? Why was he so like offended when she made that joke?"

• 1:34:45Speaker 02

  Oh no. It's tough when you see like celebrities trying, like, they're not making a joke or even saying anything that makes sense, but they're saying it in the cadence of a joke.

• 1:34:56Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:34:57Speaker 02

  And that is really hard to watch, when they're like, "Well, you know, da-da-da-da-da." And you're like, "Huh, yeah." Well, that was, okay, like you have the rhythm of a joke.

• 1:35:08Drew Afualo?

  Right, you're kinda there.

• 1:35:09Speaker 02

  And you're smiling.

• 1:35:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's like little kids, like when kids babble and then you're like, "Oh, that was so funny."

• 1:35:15Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:35:16Drew Afualo?

  You're just pretending with them.

• 1:35:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:18Drew Afualo?

  You gotta step into the, to the delusion.

• 1:35:20Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:35:21Drew Afualo?

  Step into it with them.

• 1:35:21Speaker 02

  That's what seems like the hardest part about doing those carpet interviews is the, the fake laughing you probably have to do.

• 1:35:28Drew Afualo?

  Oh, girl, the amount of fake laughing, also the way that, um, right before I talk to them, especially if they're really famous.

• 1:35:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:35Drew Afualo?

  I'll have someone come to me and go, "You get one, one question, that's it."

• 1:35:40Speaker 02

  The celebrity will say that?

• 1:35:42Drew Afualo?

  No, they're, they're publicists.

• 1:35:43Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 1:35:44Drew Afualo?

  They'll yell in my face like that, "One!"

• 1:35:47Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:35:47Drew Afualo?

  And then they turn around and then their back's her to me and I'm like, "Okay, oh my god, how are you feeling?"

• 1:35:52Speaker 02

  And your first question is, "Can I ask more questions?"

• 1:35:54Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:35:55Speaker 02

  Like with a genie possessed three wishes?

• 1:35:59Speaker 02

  Can I ask you five questions? And they're like, yes.

• 1:36:01Drew Afualo?

  Would you mind if I asked you?

• 1:36:02Speaker 02

  Fuck you.

• 1:36:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and sometimes like I'll say to them like, they said I only got one, so I gotta be quick. And then I'll ask them the best question. And then when they giggle, sometimes they'll be like, ask me another one, ask me another one. So the whole point is to get them to like me, but sometimes their, their teams are yelling at me. And they do this thing too, where like if you're talking for too long, they'll walk up behind you in your frame. And then they'll just hold your back like this.

• 1:36:27Speaker 02

  Ooh, I don't like that.

• 1:36:28Drew Afualo?

  Or they'll touch your elbow like this and they're like letting you know like, wrap it up bitch, otherwise I'm taking them.

• 1:36:34Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 1:36:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, and what's, works out sometimes though is like, even like when I met Timothy Chalamet, like, his, his publicist loves me. Like, she's like on TikTok.

• 1:36:44Speaker 02

  That's so funny.

• 1:36:44Drew Afualo?

  So she came up and she was like, I love you. And I was like, you do? She goes, yeah, I go, can I talk to him? And she went, yeah.

• 1:36:54Speaker 02

  That's, and why I also think you're a great fit for it is like your energy and a lot of comedians have this too, which I think is really good for famous people is like, you're kind of like, I don't care how hot and famous you are.

• 1:37:09Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:37:10Speaker 02

  And a lot of people, most people treat you really well and gently because you look like this.

• 1:37:15Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 1:37:16Speaker 02

  But I don't give a fuck.

• 1:37:18Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:37:18Speaker 02

  And you don't have the things that I'm looking for.

• 1:37:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:22Speaker 02

  When I am like intimidated by people, like I want people to be like really funny and interesting and you don't have that. You're just symmetrical. And I think that throws famous people for a loop.

• 1:37:33Drew Afualo?

  It's true.

• 1:37:33Speaker 02

  When you're kind of like, hey, how are you? And they're like, why didn't the temperature in the room change when I walked in? Usually, usually I float in and everyone kind of.

• 1:37:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:44Speaker 02

  And you didn't, you didn't really snap to attention there.

• 1:37:48Drew Afualo?

  Your panties aren't soaked.

• 1:37:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:37:49Drew Afualo?

  That's interesting. I find that interesting about you.

• 1:37:51Speaker 02

  Your boobs didn't perk up. And I just, is my manager here?

• 1:37:56Drew Afualo?

  Cause.

• 1:37:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, they, they, you're so right.

• 1:37:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:58Speaker 02

  Especially with men, like men, like really famous men, cause like.

• 1:38:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're like, I'm already engaged to a hot guy.

• 1:38:04Speaker 02

  Girl, trust me.

• 1:38:05Drew Afualo?

  I'm fine.

• 1:38:05Speaker 02

  I'm here for a check and a check only.

• 1:38:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:07Speaker 02

  And you know me, fucking, I am literally Yao Ming in every room. I am Shaquille O'Neal bitch.

• 1:38:13Drew Afualo?

  Everyone I thought was my size.

• 1:38:16Speaker 02

  No girl.

• 1:38:16Drew Afualo?

  So little.

• 1:38:17Speaker 02

  Itty bitty, teeny tiny.

• 1:38:19Drew Afualo?

  When I was doing After Midnight and people would come on, I would go, oh my god. Okay.

• 1:38:24Speaker 02

  I'm gonna stand over here.

• 1:38:25Drew Afualo?

  Well, and then some people like-

• 1:38:26Speaker 02

  I'm towering over you.

• 1:38:27Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, Drew looks huge next to her.

• 1:38:30Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:38:30Drew Afualo?

  That's what they read on my videos. When I'm standing next to like, like women especially, they're like, "Oh my god."

• 1:38:36Speaker 02

  What an ins-

• 1:38:36Drew Afualo?

  Drew's enormous.

• 1:38:37Speaker 02

  That's, Jesus Christ. I will say, I have like a really big head.

• 1:38:42Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 1:38:42Speaker 02

  And it's not, and there's nothing we can do, yeah, nothing you can do about a big head.

• 1:38:45Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 1:38:45Speaker 02

  It's just kinda is what it is.

• 1:38:46Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:38:47Speaker 02

  I'm sure someone's doing something about it in LA. I'm sure there's some, there's some young aspiring starlet right now in an office going, "Can you just shave it down?"

• 1:38:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like shrink it.

• 1:38:55Speaker 02

  Just on the back. But I, is there a waist trainer for your head though? I, like, I did the Drew Barrymore show and they took a picture of us like hugging.

• 1:39:05Speaker 02

  Don't look it up. My head is three times the size. It looks like, even friends of mine, I'm like, "We can't take another picture where we're doing this." Cause it looks like someone took my head and went, "Mwah." And then sent it back to me. I thought someone was pranking me once, cause I was like, "What? Did you facetune this? I look like I'm gonna swallow your head like a mint." It is so big.

• 1:39:27Drew Afualo?

  You're like Pac-Man.

• 1:39:28Speaker 02

  But there's nothing I can do. And apparently you look better on camera if you have a big head. Have you, have you heard about that?

• 1:39:32Drew Afualo?

  No, but that is good to know.

• 1:39:33Speaker 02

  Something, someone, you, people, someone told me that once.

• 1:39:37Drew Afualo?

  And I'm gonna hold on to it.

• 1:39:38Speaker 02

  And I'm holding on to it for dear life.

• 1:39:40Drew Afualo?

  I did Drew Barrymore too, but I did not the real one where you get to sit on the couch. I did the one where I was behind the desk. But when I did that with her, the pictures I took with her, I look about nine and a half feet tall.

• 1:39:50Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:39:51Drew Afualo?

  She's about up to my nipples. Like, she's real right here.

• 1:39:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:39:54Drew Afualo?

  And she was all up on me too, so I look even bigger, which didn't help.

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  She's just on you like a koala.

• 1:39:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'm like, "Drew, please, please, Drew, please." They already say I'm enormous. They already do that to me, dude.

• 1:40:05Speaker 02

  She's so sweet. I also like, I did her show, I was like, "Oh, you, what is it like to be this charming?"

• 1:40:09Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:40:10Speaker 02

  Like, I can't even imagine to just-

• 1:40:12Drew Afualo?

  And likable.

• 1:40:12Speaker 02

  And likable, like, so much so that you're like, "I can touch anyone."

• 1:40:16Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:40:17Speaker 02

  I can hug and I, every time I've gone in for a hug, I've been like, "Hope this is okay." I've never had the personality to just be hugging whoever.

• 1:40:26Drew Afualo?

  No, me either.

• 1:40:27Speaker 02

  She's so charming and sweet.

• 1:40:28Drew Afualo?

  She is, and even after I finished, my segment with her was really short. So after I finished with her, she was like, "We should get dinner." And then I go, I mean, I was like, honestly Drew Barrymore, you tell me when and I'll be there. I think you're more busy than me, so you kind of just let me know.

• 1:40:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:45Drew Afualo?

  But like, if, I said, you can't take it back, you already said it to me.

• 1:40:48Speaker 02

  You already said it to me and I'm gonna tell everyone.

• 1:40:50Drew Afualo?

  And she was like, oh my god, no, I would love to, I would love to get dinner with you. And also, like, now, or? Cause I even made that joke to Dakota Johnson, cause she liked my tooth gems.

• 1:40:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:57Drew Afualo?

  And she kept saying like, I love those, like, I wanna get them, but I can't because I'm acting. I go, well, I can't book anything, so that's why I have them. But when I do, best believe I'll rip them off. And then she was like, well, I'd love, oh, I really wanna get some. And I was like, let's go right now, what are you busy?

• 1:41:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:13Drew Afualo?

  Are you busy? Let's go right now. And she laughed and she was like, oh my god.

• 1:41:16Speaker 02

  Are you nominated? Let's go.

• 1:41:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:17Speaker 02

  If you're not, we'll have you back in time for this thing.

• 1:41:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, what are you fucking busy? Promoting your A24 film? Okay, whatever. Okay, let me, I'm being told to hurry up. Let me, let me push through these. Me, me calling out Amanda. Um, okay, this one says-

• 1:41:31Speaker 02

  I'm also, I feel so boring that my fun facts are the same. Like, by the way, these are the same, cause you've done nothing interesting.

• 1:41:38Drew Afualo?

  No, that's not true.

• 1:41:39Speaker 02

  In the time you've been gone.

• 1:41:40Drew Afualo?

  Or, you've just been consistently successful, so you're not as fun to pull from, so that's kind of on you.

• 1:41:45Speaker 02

  Sure, okay, I'll take that.

• 1:41:47Drew Afualo?

  Okay, this one says, you weren't allowed to watch Rugrats growing up because, quote, Angelica was mean to the babies?

• 1:41:52Speaker 02

  Uh huh, yeah. Bad example. I wasn't allowed to watch anything. I couldn't watch Rugrats, I couldn't watch, like, I couldn't watch Cat Dog.

• 1:41:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh.

• 1:41:59Speaker 02

  Cause Cat was mean to Dog, or Dog was mean, no, Cat was mean to Dog.

• 1:42:03Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I thought it was gonna be cause they're conjoint, conjoined.

• 1:42:06Speaker 02

  Well, what I was, you'd think I'd be allowed to watch that in a Christian household, cause no one has genitals.

• 1:42:10Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 1:42:10Speaker 02

  That's a wholesome piece of content about animals, that are not gonna fuck, cause they can't.

• 1:42:16Drew Afualo?

  They can't, literally.

• 1:42:17Speaker 02

  You're just upset that Cat's like, you're being stupid. Like, any, any show that said stupid, they were like, you can't. Like, we'd learned that word from that show and not from school.

• 1:42:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and you're like, I'm just gonna use that on anyone.

• 1:42:28Speaker 02

  Like, I don't know what it wa, they were, yeah, anything where someone was like, too mean.

• 1:42:32Drew Afualo?

  That's so funny. Angelica was mean to the baby, that's true.

• 1:42:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:35Drew Afualo?

  But I felt very Angelica adjacent as a child.

• 1:42:38Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:42:38Drew Afualo?

  I was more so her than I was any of those other babies, I'll tell you that much. Uh, this one says, in 2014, you posted this photo with the cap-

• 1:42:46Speaker 02

  Oh no.

• 1:42:47Drew Afualo?

  Bathroom selfie at my old restaurant job in my new receptionist job button up. Because never forget where you came from.

• 1:42:55Speaker 02

  Fuck!

• 1:42:56Drew Afualo?

  That was the whole caption, by the way.

• 1:42:58Speaker 02

  I literally, I'm gonna go archive stuff. I'm gonna spend all night archiving shit.

• 1:43:03Drew Afualo?

  It says, do you remember what those jobs were?

• 1:43:05Speaker 02

  I do remember those jobs.

• 1:43:06Drew Afualo?

  And here's the pic, if you wanna see.

• 1:43:08Speaker 02

  I, oh, you know what? Not even the one I was thinking of. I did, I archived another one.

• 1:43:13Drew Afualo?

  Okay, fifty, fifty three likes.

• 1:43:15Speaker 02

  I missed that one.

• 1:43:15Drew Afualo?

  Fifty three likes? It says hashtag making it hashtag big time, hashtag humility.

• 1:43:21Speaker 02

  Oh. Hashtag humility, not hashtag humility. And I'm bragging about being a receptionist?

• 1:43:29Drew Afualo?

  You're wearing, you're wearing, okay, you're bragging about your receptionist job button up. You're wearing it at your old restaurant job.

• 1:43:37Speaker 02

  And I, you know what's crazy is I'm, I was doing standup at that time and I'm still proud to not be wearing. I worked at Soup Plantation when I was a teenager.

• 1:43:48Drew Afualo?

  We are a Soup Plantation loving house.

• 1:43:52Speaker 02

  This is a safe space. We were upset, we all worked at Soup Plantation.

• 1:43:58Drew Afualo?

  No fucking way, Taylor.

• 1:44:00Speaker 02

  I loved Soup Plantation, and it's gone.

• 1:44:02Drew Afualo?

  Loved that chain.

• 1:44:03Speaker 02

  And it's gone now.

• 1:44:04Drew Afualo?

  It is, they killed it off.

• 1:44:06Speaker 02

  They killed it off.

• 1:44:07Drew Afualo?

  And it was, was it only for old people? Of course it was. And us.

• 1:44:12Speaker 02

  And us, I convinced all my friends to go there for dinner before homecoming one year. I was like, why would we go anywhere else? We can all get up. We're there in like, full, just like, homecoming dresses. And I'm like, so does anyone else want more mac and cheese?

• 1:44:25Drew Afualo?

  Unlimited soup, unlimited salad.

• 1:44:27Speaker 02

  I'm going up there and they're not checking to see how many times I've been up here.

• 1:44:30Drew Afualo?

  Oh, and those pizzas that they cut into the little squares?

• 1:44:34Speaker 02

  I.

• 1:44:35Drew Afualo?

  And the brownies.

• 1:44:36Speaker 02

  The cookies there, in the bag. And then when they'd have fresh ones and they'd come around with the basket.

• 1:44:41Drew Afualo?

  Oh bitch.

• 1:44:42Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:44:42Drew Afualo?

  I took my man there one time, right before they closed them all. Cause we started dating in 2017 and I took him, I think, that Christmas. That was like.

• 1:44:50Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:44:50Drew Afualo?

  And he was like, this is one of the best restaurants I've ever been to.

• 1:44:53Speaker 02

  It's so good.

• 1:44:54Drew Afualo?

  Right?

• 1:44:55Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:44:55Drew Afualo?

  And it's funny because, you know, you can get as much soup as you want. Like, my sister was a big clam chowder fan there. And.

• 1:45:03Speaker 02

  Just the way you're talking about, and you know you can get as much soup as you want.

• 1:45:07Drew Afualo?

  You know that.

• 1:45:09Speaker 02

  And you know, and you know, you

• 1:45:10Drew Afualo?

  You know.

• 1:45:11Speaker 02

  Have you heard the whole, it's, so it's as much soup as

• 1:45:15Drew Afualo?

  As much.

• 1:45:16Speaker 02

  You know how you go to a lot of restaurants and they're like, you get one bowl of soup, maybe two, as much soup as you want.

• 1:45:22Drew Afualo?

  When I tell you unlimited, I mean unlimited. And they always have clam chowder and maybe two or three others.

• 1:45:27Speaker 02

  And for anyone listening, in case you missed it, it's as much soup as

• 1:45:34Drew Afualo?

  The most soup ever.

• 1:45:35Speaker 02

  The most soup ever.

• 1:45:36Drew Afualo?

  And I, and my man was like, going back and getting a million fucking bowls of it.

• 1:45:40Speaker 02

  My god.

• 1:45:41Drew Afualo?

  But then he started stacking them, like, we were at Conveyor Belt Sushi. And I was like, hey, they, they don't clear them like that, so this is humiliating. Go ahead and clear your own bowls.

• 1:45:48Speaker 02

  You put it on a, on an empty table?

• 1:45:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and all their bowls have the handles, so you can carry, so you don't have to carry hot soup in your hands, like, they all, they thought of everything in that restaurant.

• 1:45:56Speaker 02

  They thought of everything. The blueberry muffins?

• 1:45:58Drew Afualo?

  Yes!

• 1:45:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:00Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, I loved the blueberry muffins there.

• 1:46:02Speaker 02

  I'm so upset.

• 1:46:03Drew Afualo?

  And they're soft-serve, you can make your own little soft-serve.

• 1:46:06Speaker 02

  It was so fucking good.

• 1:46:09Drew Afualo?

  It was the best.

• 1:46:10Speaker 02

  I wish we could go there after this.

• 1:46:11Drew Afualo?

  They need to revive it. You and I, our retirement plan should be reviving Soup Plantation. Let's go in on it.

• 1:46:16Speaker 02

  Drew, don't fuck with me. Don't Drew Barrymore me right now. Don't say we're gonna get dinner and we don't, okay?

• 1:46:21Drew Afualo?

  Right, she didn't mean it, but I do.

• 1:46:22Speaker 02

  I do, don't threaten me with restarting a chain of restaurants that was important to me as a child. Don't fuck with me right now.

• 1:46:31Drew Afualo?

  I'm so, I love Soup Plantation. I will do that with you.

• 1:46:34Speaker 02

  We should get matching Soup Plantation tattoos, is what we should do.

• 1:46:37Drew Afualo?

  Merch. Oh, tattoos, we do the little tomatoes.

• 1:46:39Speaker 02

  The little tomatoes, yeah. Not even kidding, not even kidding. That's hilarious. That would be hilar, this is what I'm talking about. All my tattoo ideas are so lame.

• 1:46:50Drew Afualo?

  They're all like, spur of the moment. You're like, I'm feeling inspired in this moment. I'm gonna go get the Soup Plantation.

• 1:46:56Speaker 02

  Imagine telling the tattoo artist that's what you want. I want a little tomato. Oh, what's the tomato for? Do you remember failed buffet-style restaurant, but healthy, Soup Plantation?

• 1:47:06Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:47:06Speaker 02

  No? It was sweet tomatoes for a while. Do you remember sweet tomatoes?

• 1:47:09Drew Afualo?

  Yes, of course, I do.

• 1:47:11Speaker 02

  Okay, listen, listen to me. As, as much soup as you want.

• 1:47:18Drew Afualo?

  And get this, as much soup.

• 1:47:20Speaker 02

  As much soup. Cause you know when you're eating soup, you're always like, I wish I had an unlimited amount of soup.

• 1:47:26Speaker 02

  You always want more.

• 1:47:27Drew Afualo?

  You're kidding, but I'm not.

• 1:47:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:29Drew Afualo?

  Because every time I eat soup, I'm like, well, that was like, nothing. I felt like I just sat there and opened my mouth and closed it a million times.

• 1:47:34Speaker 02

  And I go, why can't I have five other flavors of soup?

• 1:47:37Drew Afualo?

  Right, just in case. And then obviously I pivot to a brownie, then I pivot back to my salad. Then I pivot back to my second soup.

• 1:47:44Speaker 02

  It's a palate cleanser, these soups.

• 1:47:46Drew Afualo?

  It's like a restaurant of all my favorite things. Like it's salad, soups, carbs.

• 1:47:51Speaker 02

  Yep, no meat, no protein at all.

• 1:47:53Drew Afualo?

  No protein.

• 1:47:54Speaker 02

  No protein at all.

• 1:47:55Drew Afualo?

  Not one. Me choking, because I'm getting like choked up thinking about soup plantation and how much I miss it.

• 1:48:00Speaker 02

  I can smell it. I can smell it.

• 1:48:03Drew Afualo?

  And the trays, the little food trays they had. I can't believe you're a soup plantation stand. That's why I said, you go in the tattoo shop, what if they all gasp like they do in here?

• 1:48:11Speaker 02

  That was so validating. That was one of the greatest moments of my life. That was community. That was amazing.

• 1:48:18Drew Afualo?

  That's what it's all about, at the end of the day. A soup plantation gasp.

• 1:48:22Speaker 02

  That was a gasp akin to like me watching heated rivalry with my friends.

• 1:48:28Speaker 02

  We didn't even kiss. It was, that was really nice.

• 1:48:31Drew Afualo?

  That is, that was so nice. We're literally the same person. I think we were born in the same egg.

• 1:48:36Speaker 02

  I think so too. I really, can we actually be friends though? Like I know we all do podcasts and we're like, we're all hanging out on camera, but like for real, let's be friends.

• 1:48:43Drew Afualo?

  Yes, and I'm being for real.

• 1:48:44Speaker 02

  I am being for real too.

• 1:48:45Drew Afualo?

  Drew Barrymore was to me.

• 1:48:46Speaker 02

  I'm in Orange County normally, like regularly, my sister lives there, like we'll.

• 1:48:51Drew Afualo?

  Tea.

• 1:48:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:52Drew Afualo?

  You let me know. I'll be there.

• 1:48:54Speaker 02

  Who has more Instagram followers? Cause that's who has to reach out. That's how it is. It's your Drew Barrymore, who's Drew Barrymore?

• 1:49:00Drew Afualo?

  My guess is honestly on you. I think you have more.

• 1:49:02Speaker 02

  Do I have more? I don't know if that's true.

• 1:49:03Drew Afualo?

  I guarantee you do. I feel like you have more of a world appeal than I do.

• 1:49:07Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:49:07Drew Afualo?

  Cause obviously you're way more famous than me.

• 1:49:09Speaker 02

  Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna walk around a mall and we're gonna see who gets stopped more. We're gonna take, we're gonna take a lap separately.

• 1:49:15Drew Afualo?

  Separately.

• 1:49:16Speaker 02

  Alone, and we're gonna come back and we're gonna go, what have you got?

• 1:49:18Drew Afualo?

  Who got asked for more selfies?

• 1:49:19Speaker 02

  And I guarantee you, your number's higher than mine.

• 1:49:21Drew Afualo?

  I disagree, honestly.

• 1:49:22Speaker 02

  I really, I promise.

• 1:49:23Drew Afualo?

  Maybe it depends. Maybe it depends on the demographic.

• 1:49:26Speaker 02

  Like what mall we go to?

• 1:49:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, or the age. Because like, when I go to like.

• 1:49:30Speaker 02

  You get younger, you think?

• 1:49:32Drew Afualo?

  Ish, it's like more so.

• 1:49:34Speaker 02

  Moms will bring them to my shows now, and it hurts my feelings. When moms come with their daughters and the daughter is like 20, I go, whose idea was it to come? Guess whose? I go, have you ever heard of me before? And the girl goes, I've seen you on TikTok. No compliment, no nothing, just like your face when you go, do you think you look good? Just, I've seen you on TikTok.

• 1:49:57Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:49:57Speaker 02

  But this is about my mom. It's my mom's birthday.

• 1:49:59Drew Afualo?

  It's my, guys, it's my mom's birthday.

• 1:50:00Speaker 02

  It's my mom's birthday.

• 1:50:01Drew Afualo?

  That's your next special title. Guys, it's my mom's birthday. There you go. That's perfect.

• 1:50:05Speaker 02

  That's perfect right there.

• 1:50:06Drew Afualo?

  Well, thank you so much for coming back.

• 1:50:08Speaker 02

  Thank you for having me. This was so fun. I fucking love you.

• 1:50:10Drew Afualo?

  You're the best. I feel like the last episode, we were doing the first date thing.

• 1:50:14Speaker 02

  We were.

• 1:50:14Drew Afualo?

  Now like, we're for sure getting lucky.

• 1:50:16Speaker 02

  You were dressed as Tinky Winky. I was really tired.

• 1:50:18Drew Afualo?

  This one, this date, we're getting lucky.

• 1:50:20Speaker 02

  This is it. This is the one we'll talk about.

• 1:50:25Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much for coming back. I fucking love you, obviously. But again, for those two 20-year-old daughters that maybe don't know, where can everybody find you?

• 1:50:33Speaker 02

  On Netflix, Prodigal Daughter is the new one. And if you don't like that one, I have three other stand-up specials that you can go back and watch. That's what's nice. You have a body of work now. You're like, if you hate that, I did some other stuff too. So.

• 1:50:45Drew Afualo?

  Go around.

• 1:50:46Speaker 02

  Go, hey.

• 1:50:46Drew Afualo?

  Go look, sample.

• 1:50:47Speaker 02

  Judge me. Say she's, she's falling off.

• 1:50:52Drew Afualo?

  Well, I disagree. Taylor Tomlinson's only getting funnier with time. This episode is clearly proof of that. But thank you all so much for joining us on this episode of the Comment Section Show. Thank you to my amazing guest, Taylor Tomlinson. You guys already know Taylor. Of course you do. She's a world-renowned comedian and hilarious and amazing. But obviously, make sure you go check out her newest special, emphasis on newest, Prodigal Daughter on Netflix. It's already out, so don't complain. You can go stream it right now after you watch this episode. And thank you so much to my amazing guest for coming. Thank you all so much for tuning in. Don't forget, new episodes of the Comment Section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms with the video list for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. Thank you so much for joining us, and I'll see you next week. Bye.

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