Pod Insights The Psychology of your 20s 262. Your year for trusting yourself About this episode This year is your year for complete self trust, in all forms! The opposite of anxiety and doubt is self trust. This means we have confidence and clarity in our choices. we believe in our ability to overcome failure, we have a deep sense of self and we trust in our belief for our future.
Each year I like to set a theme for the 12 months to come. In today's episode I explain why a theme is essential and introduce this years theme: the theme of self trust. We will also break down what it means to build real self trust through three important practices, what erodes self trust and what a 2025 defined by self trust could bring. All of that and more, listen now!
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1:08 Jemma Sbeg? Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Welcome back to the podcast, new listeners, old listeners, wherever you are in the world. It is so great to have you here back for another episode as we, of course, break down the psychology of our twenties. I would like to extend an official welcome to the final episode of twenty twenty four. And honestly, what a year it has been. Like, what an insane, massive, phenomenal year for the podcast and for me as well. So I just want to start by expressing my gratitude and having a little quick chat about what we have done.
1:50 Jemma Sbeg? The biggest thing for me this year was, of course, announcing my book, announcing that I wrote a book basically based on this podcast called Person in Progress. And It does not pass me by a single day that there would be no way in this world that I would have had the opportunity to write that book without you guys, without the listeners and the support that you have given me. And this year, so much of twenty twenty four was focused on writing that book, making it the best possible, most scientific, most researched, but also personal vulnerable story that I could make it.
2:33 Jemma Sbeg? And there were so many like long nights, you know, up till one, two A M. Waking up at eight A M. The following morning, working the whole day to write this book and make it good. And it was such an obsessive passion project for me that there is no way that it couldn't not define this year. And then next year is probably going to be defined by the fact that it's going to be released. It comes out in April twenty twenty five, and I feel like that's just going to be an equally surreal moment. But for now, I am just planting my feet where I am and reminiscing on what an insane journey that was. Honestly, I was speaking to like my family about this today.
3:15 Jemma Sbeg? I was like, I can't believe I wrote almost a hundred thousand words this year, plus every, all the other writing that I did for the podcast. But it was just such a mammoth exercise, like it's, you know, there's just so many opportunities in this life where we really get to test ourselves and see how much we are capable of and how hard we can work. And so, you know, often we don't actually take those opportunities. Like, when was the last time you really tested yourself and gave yourself a real massive thing to work towards? And that was like something that I did this year. So I'm very, very proud of that. I'm very, very grateful for the opportunity. Another insane, crazy, beautiful thing we did this year was we held our first two
4:00 Jemma Sbeg? meetups, our first two friendship meetups for the podcast. We had one in July in Sydney, which was the inaugural meetup, and it just went so well. So if you attended, thank you for being my guinea pigs, but I also feel like we all had such an amazing time. And then we held our second one in October, October, yeah, October in Melbourne. And that was just equally fulfilling. And actually, that was where I announced the book for the first time. So the people in that room, all seventy five of them, were the first ones to hear about it. My heart was so full after each of those experiences. So many like hours and I would say anxiety and stress went into creating them because
4:43 Jemma Sbeg? I wanted it to be like value for money, but I also wanted to make sure that it was fun and that people really wanted to be there and got something out of it. And as soon as like I stepped into that room and you guys all started coming, I was like, wow, like this community is just like literally speechless, even trying to explain the memory, like just beautiful, beyond beautiful, intelligent, kind, generous. Every single person who came to those meetups was like the most impressive person, the most interesting person, the most creative person I had ever met. And that was just such a beautiful thing to be able to witness and to be able to bring everyone together. So if you were at one of those two meetups, thank you so much for coming along,
5:25 Jemma Sbeg? even when there wasn't much like prior information about it. You really were the test subjects. But that means that next year we will be doing ten of those meetups, not just in Australia, but across the world. We're going to be starting in Canberra, we're going to do another one in Sydney, another one in Melbourne. We're going to do one in Queensland and then we're heading over to the UK and to Europe and also to the US. Hopefully we can bring it to more places later on in the year, but we're going slow. We're taking baby steps with this, but I'm just so excited for that. And I'm so excited for what twenty twenty five is going to bring. So with all of my overwhelming gratitude aside, I want to.
6:12 Jemma Sbeg? Introduce you to our theme for 2025. So, long-term listeners of the podcast will know that each year I like to choose a theme, a theme for the year, a theme, an attitude, basically, for what we're going to bring into 2025. So 2024, it was our year for taking risks. And 2025, it is our year for fully trusting ourselves. Now, the opposite of anxiety is trust. And so what this theme really means for me this year is allowing ourselves to be scared, allowing ourselves to be uncomfortable, allowing ourselves to feel anxiety about the future, about our circumstances, and trusting ourselves anyway.
6:57 Jemma Sbeg? Almost being delusional in how much we trust ourselves and our path. That is an amazing power to have. And we're going to talk about it more in just a second. But to explain the reason firstly, as to why I like to choose a theme instead of a goal or a New Year's resolution, it's because a theme to me applies to everything. So it's a mindset, it's an attitude, it's an approach. It's a lens through which you can see your whole life, not just one goal at a time. So instead of having to set, you know, a goal for every area of my life, a professional goal, a relationship goal, a financial goal, a personal goal, a health goal, whatever it is, instead you prioritize one larger idea
7:42 Jemma Sbeg? that influences all of these elements at once. And by doing so, you don't have to be a stretch thin trying to accomplish five to 10 individual things, you know, all of your attention is going to be focused on aligning your behavior with the theme of trusting yourself, going after what you want, deciding what is and what isn't for you, and knowing that you can pursue that even when it scares you. I think that's a really, really powerful mindset to have. And this idea works much better for me, this perspective, this method, especially since our brains have such finite cognitive resources.
8:25 Jemma Sbeg? And we really struggle with attention and sometimes with motivation. So instead, when I say I am someone who trusts myself, or I say I'm someone who takes risks, or whatever your theme is for the year, it stretches a lot wider. It reaches new areas and I really do find that the transformation in my life is deeper. So yes, that is my basic premise or explanation for this way of going about things and why this is how I approach the new year. I think obviously this is also a time when we can really galvanize ourselves around something new and a fresh, purposeful philosophy on life because of the emotional and mental significance of new beginnings, especially for our brains.
9:08 Jemma Sbeg? And there is this theory in psychology called the fresh start effect, which basically explains how, when you think about it, rather arbitrary landmarks like a new year or a birthday or a new job, a new season, it really motivates us to break away from past habits because it gives the impression of a blank slate. And yes, the new year is really just a one day. You know, it's just a day and another day and another day. It's just, we have put these, you know, human, human ideas around time passing. But that is significant enough. And a two thousand and fifteen study that really examined this and examined this across five laboratory experiments.
9:51 Jemma Sbeg? And it found consistently that when humans are given this idea of a new beginning or a new time period, it really increases our intentions to pursue our goals and ultimately our success in achieving them. So this is your time, this is when to start, this is when to take up a new theme. So without further ado, let's talk about why this year is going to be your year for fully trusting yourself.
10:26 Jemma Sbeg? Firstly, let's start off by really examining what self-trust looks like. Self-trust is firstly, not having all the answers. Self-trust is not arrogance or ego. It is instead a deep belief in your ability to encounter problems and get through them. But also an equally deep belief that you know what your life should look like. You know what you want from your life. And you are so sure of it that you are willing to go after it, despite what other people might believe. Despite the naysayers. Essentially, self-trust to me is the opposite of self-doubt.
11:07 Jemma Sbeg? You know, where self-doubt might call you a fraud and might say, you're not capable of this. You're not ready. You can't possibly handle this. Self-trust is something even greater than confidence. It's steadiness. It's self-assurance. You can look at a challenge, say for example, an uncertain future, which a lot of us in our twenties are dealing with. Or a new job or a big move. And you can confidently say, I actually don't know how this is going to work out. But I trust the future version of myself to do what's best and to handle it. Therefore, that allows you to take the leap. I think there's this incredible article by Psychology Today that explains the roots of self-trust.
11:53 Jemma Sbeg? And they just put it so well. And what they basically explain is that when we look at examples of people who are self-trusting. We find that they have clarity and confidence in their choices. They are healthily dependent on other people whilst also independent. So they're not overly dependent on other people, but they're also not hyper-independent. They speak with authority that comes from a very deep place, but is not arrogant. They are good observers. And they have also, and this is critical, cultivated the ability to learn from their experiences, both the successes and failures. And I think we can acknowledge why that's so important.
12:35 Jemma Sbeg? When we don't have self-trust, we feel very much pulled by other people's opinions and judgments. Um, or we feel very much dictated by failure, or we rely too heavily on external validation. So what that means is that what someone else thinks about me or thinks is right for me must be the truth. Because my internal validation system is damaged, or it's left me. So I see this a lot, actually, especially amongst those of us in our twenties, because given our age, I do feel like we sometimes believe that we don't have full authority over our lives because we're so young.
13:15 Jemma Sbeg? And we're just getting started and also we're so confused. So we're looking for someone to say, actually, no, you're wrong. Let me show you how to do it. And we're like, thank God. Thank gosh, someone's going to tell me what to do. And one way this manifests is when you have to make a really important decision. And you may ask every single person in your life what they think. What do you think? Should I do this? Should I not do this? Should I go? Should I stay? Please give me the answers. And yet you are still confused. Or you still feel like despite all this additional information that's coming from people's opinions. You still can't act because at the end of the day, a decision is yours to make. Even if other people are saying, you have to do this, you should do this, this is what I think is best for you.
14:01 Jemma Sbeg? You are still the one who makes the decision and you are still the one that will have to carry the burden. The potential burden of that being the wrong decision. So it's not the decision that you fear. You fear change and you fear not being able to handle any unexpected consequences of your choices. I also see it when we don't want to step out of our comfort zone because we are scared of not being able to manage it alone. I honestly believe that a lack of self-trust is why so many of us stay in relationships, and that includes friendships that aren't fulfilling, because we don't think that we can trust ourselves to be happy alone.
14:44 Jemma Sbeg? Think about, you know, relationships in your life currently. While you know that the relationship isn't actually fulfilling. It's not a fun relationship. It drains your energy. You feel like you let out a huge sigh of relief every time the hangout ends, or you feel anxious every time you see them. But we hold on to those relationships because we don't trust ourselves to be alone. We don't trust ourselves to handle the emotions of having to let the relationship go. It all comes down to this sense of self-doubt. Who am I without other people dictating my character? A lack of self-trust is also why we don't take risks, like pursuing our passion,
15:27 Jemma Sbeg? even if it's, you know, a side project or solo travelling, because we don't feel like we can trust ourselves to figure things out that we don't yet know and be adaptable. So when it comes down to it, we can see that this actually filters into every element of our lives. And it might be why, it might be at the root, actually, of a lot of our indecisiveness, our stagnation, our fear. Think about, just for a second, how many situations come up for us nearly every day in our twenties, and beyond really, that require a baseline of self-trust to accomplish? And I'm gonna give you a little list here. Choosing a major at university or college, or a career,
16:12 Jemma Sbeg? asking for a promotion, setting boundaries, standing up for yourself, making big purchases, or saving or investing, trusting that you know what's best for your body and your health, making risky decisions, even deciding what's worth your energy. That all, all of those decisions require you to be able to look in the mirror and say, hey, you might not know all the answers, but I trust that you're gonna figure it out. So do what feels best. I trust you. FOMO is another one, actually, that just came to the top of my mind just then. FOMO comes into this big time. If you don't have self-trust, you may be more easily convinced that you have to be where everyone else is, doing what they are.
16:55 Jemma Sbeg? Even when that might not suit you because you don't feel confident or safe in your own choices or your own company. So we say self-trust and we think it's a small thing. But it really does touch our lives in a much deeper way. And there's actually a theory in psychology called trust theory, which says that trusting ourselves is what allows us to trust others. Our friends, our family, our colleagues. And that is a prerequisite for so many other things. Trust, I don't know, I really don't know why it doesn't get more attention. It's so important to be a well-functioning human.
17:34 Jemma Sbeg? And a really great study that talks about this was published in two thousand and twelve from Huntington University in the US. And it talks about the correlation between self-esteem, loneliness and self-trust. And they found that when you are low on self-trust, you also experience loneliness more intensely. Your self-esteem is lower and you feel more anxious about your relationships. This was totally me, maybe like six or seven years back. Um, I was in the pit of this. I had absolutely no trust in myself. I was so doubtful of every single thing I did.
18:13 Jemma Sbeg? And I kind of approached relationships, friendships in particular, kind of like a little injured bird, being like, please like me. And if you don't like me, don't worry, I'll change for you. Like, I have no strong self-concept because I don't know who I am and I don't trust myself to figure it out. So I was very like bendable and easily manipulated by friendships because I really.
18:36 Jemma Sbeg? Did not believe that I knew what was best for me and I did not believe that I could feel like I was okay without someone else telling me that I was okay. So there's a little personal story for you. However, you know, if our theme this year is to reverse our lack of self-trust, we probably, you know, you firstly really need to know what damages it in the first place. And then how to really, you know, undo those interactions, those emotional interactions, the emotional trauma that has caused you to really have a lot of self-doubt. So I'm gonna take a quick pause and then when we return,
19:16 Jemma Sbeg? I want to talk about the roots of our lack of self-trust and how to rebuild it after this short break.
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21:40 Jemma Sbeg? So the theory with self-trust goes that we are all born with an internal compass. And this internal emotional compass is really what allows us to direct our life by following our north. And our north is something that really develops as children and then into our teenage years. And it's basically our purpose, what we want from life, our values, our truth. Along the way, though, the compass is really thrown off by things like excessive criticism from family, from friends, from people in general, overbearing parental pressure as well, especially, you know, when our parents don't allow us to be individuals and they keep us emotionally and physically dependent on them by making all our choices for us
22:25 Jemma Sbeg? or shaming us for doing something counter to what they want. Self-trust is also damaged by internal patterns like people-pleasing, a fear of failure, perfectionism, essentially meaning that we don't really feel like we can meet our own standards or that letting ourselves be in control of our lives could mean that we would make major mistakes. I also want to talk about the influence of past relationship betrayal. And you know, separately ignoring our intuition and how those two sometimes come together. So past relationship trauma and betrayal can significantly harm our sense of self-trust. Because these experiences often disrupt our ability
23:07 Jemma Sbeg? to accurately interpret and rely on our judgments and instincts. You know, gaslighting is a big component of this, but when someone we trusted deceives or hurts us, it creates a real deep sense of confusion and self-blame. And it leads us to really question our ability to discern red flags, to make safe choices, to protect ourselves emotionally. Big caveat here, none of this is actually our fault, literally not a single part. But this external erosion of trust in others makes us believe that it is. It makes us very hypervigilant, it makes us doubtful of our own perceptions. You know, it's honestly, one of the craziest things to me in my mind is that love is such a beautiful thing
23:52 Jemma Sbeg? that when it is used cruelly and when it is turned sour, how much it can hurt someone. And that is really what betrayal does, and it doesn't just hurt our heart, it hurts our entire perception of self. And that betrayal often triggers feelings of shame, worthlessness, inadequacy. And that further distances us from the confidence we need to trust our own decisions. Over time as well, repeated relational trauma can really embed within us a belief that we are incapable of navigating relationships effectively. And that perpetuates a cycle of self-doubt and a fear of vulnerability as well.
24:32 Jemma Sbeg? So if you're really struggling to trust yourself, sometimes the origin of that is really in a past relationship. Where of course you were made to feel like, you know, of course I can't trust myself. Because look at how this turned out, this person has just treated me so poorly that I have no sense of self anymore. It's a really big contributor.
24:54 Jemma Sbeg? Ignoring our intuition is another component of this. And that's not necessarily ignoring our intuition in a relationship, but in everyday situations that also erodes self-trust. I read this really beautiful quote, intuition is our birthright as humans. It comes with our DNA, it comes with our blueprint. And a two thousand and sixteen study really showed that. And it showed that when you and I have got instincts about something, it's actually because our brains are processing a lot more information subconsciously than we can think about consciously. So when, for example, you have a gut feeling, you know, you meet someone, you're like, I don't think you're a nice person. I think you're a bad egg.
25:35 Jemma Sbeg? Or you're in this situation, you get that sudden feeling of like, I shouldn't be here. I shouldn't be here, something about this is wrong, I need to go. That is something that oftentimes you really should trust. However, when you continuously ignore that intuition, you tell your brain that what it's doing isn't useful and how you perceive the world is wrong. Anxiety also comes into play here. Obviously, anxiety is the opposite of trust. And so anxiety really messes with our intuition. It says, wait, you should be scared right now, you should be scared right now. And the, you know, the more rational part of your brain is like, there's nothing to be scared of. I trust myself, like, this is so fine. But your brain's like, no, no, no, be anxious, be anxious, be anxious.
26:19 Jemma Sbeg? It's messing with your intuition. Anxiety, opposite of self-trust. Intuition, huge important part of self-trust. So over time, this can lead to self-doubt, second guessing, and an inability to really confidently make decisions. So psychologically, this disconnection fosters a lot of confusion. And we become less attuned to our instincts, but also our needs. So repeatedly silencing our intuition, it can also diminish our self-efficacy. And that is our belief in our ability to handle challenges or to, you know, create the outcome that we want. And that's really critical for personal growth and resilience.
27:04 Jemma Sbeg? You need self-efficacy if you want to do anything. If you want to, you know, run a marathon, if you want to finish a really huge personal project, anything, any change in your lifestyle, you actually have to believe that you are able to do something and able to achieve what you set your mind to. But if you lack self-trust, of course, you're not going to be able to believe that. And if your intuition is off, if you keep ignoring the signs that you should be doing something, that this is your calling, or that you can do it, or ignoring your intuition, saying, go this way, go that way. All of this is really, really connected. I hope that's been persuasive for you, but I hope you understand that relationship better now.
27:49 Jemma Sbeg? If you are struggling with self-trust, I really think that it's probably something that has been diminished slowly over time, until you are at a point now where instinct, intuition, confidence, self-efficacy, they have all been replaced with doubt. So that being said, going into twenty twenty five, how can we reverse some of these processes and really reclaim our intuition and our self-assurance? If this is the year for trusting yourself, I think that firstly, you really are going to have to prove it to yourself, prove that you can. And that's going to require some experimentation, some trial and error, and pushing yourself into a place of discomfort, not into a place of danger, but into a place where you can truly grow.
28:35 Jemma Sbeg? I really believe this, self-trust is actually a skill. It's a muscle that can be built with practice and commitment to almost a routine. And the routine I'm talking about is an emotional routine, is a psychological routine. It involves taking chances that feel big and important, and showing yourself that like the outcome that you want is what will come from this. So how do I want you to practice proving to yourself that you can trust yourself? I want you to start saying yes to things that you might not quite feel ready to do, instead of waiting for the perfect time, because the perfect time is a fallacy, it never actually comes.
29:17 Jemma Sbeg? And what I still want you to see is, you know, win or fail, win or lose, success or failure, whatever it is. You are still going to be okay. You will still survive every single time, even if things aren't perfect. So let me give you some examples of of how we can practise this in twenty twenty five. How we can make self trust part of our routine. So a big one, and every single one of us can do this, is to go to things alone, even if you're scared, or even if it could be a disaster. So you get invited to a party, go by yourself. You really wanna go to an event, you don't know anyone, go by yourself. There's a movie that no one else wants to see with you, go by yourself, go out for dinner by yourself.
30:03 Jemma Sbeg? There's a lot of fear around that sometimes, especially if you're someone who is quite socially anxious like myself. There's a lot of fear, am I gonna be able to handle this? What if someone looks at me the wrong way? What if someone judges me? Doesn't matter. You trust yourself. This is your year for trusting yourself. And someone who trusts themselves would be okay with going into that situation, not knowing what other people are thinking, not knowing how it's going to work out, knowing that they're still gonna have fun and get what they want out of it, out of it by being alone. Um, another way that you can really make self trust part of your routine is to confront a big fear that you have this year. It could be of public speaking, of travelling alone, going on a blind date, of flying, of being embarrassed, of going to the gym.
30:49 Jemma Sbeg? What is the fear that you have in your mind right now? Just think about it really quickly. That is holding you back. So you really don't know how you'll react and how brave and strong you can be until you face a fear and you see how your reaction will surprise you. The anxiety that we feel in regards to a big fear is normally actually anticipation. And then when you get there, when you get into the moment of your fear, yes, it might be uncomfortable, yes, it might not go your way. But actually, a lot of our anxiety tends to fade and the adrenaline takes over
31:33 Jemma Sbeg? and you get to see yourself adapt. You get to see yourself in all of your glory, face a fear and come out of it. And what that really requires is also leaving room for the mess of trusting yourself. Now, this is really, this is a really important component. And I have to thank an article from Well and Good for this. And they interviewed a really amazing author called Liz Moody, who wrote the book A Hundred Ways to Change Your Life. Really good book also, amazing. It's on like, one of my, probably one of my top 10 books. And she made this incredible point about self-trust. She said, "Doing what you think is right for you isn't always going to be a clean process. In learning to trust yourself, you will make painful mistakes.
32:16 Jemma Sbeg? You will have to give up on things, you will have to let things go. But as you learn disappointing people, closing certain chapters of your life, making mistakes, you realise that those are all important parts of trusting yourself. And sometimes that might feel like a really big loss to bear, right? Sometimes you might be like, ah, I really don't have it in me right now to experience failure or to lose a friendship or to stand up for myself. And that's a totally normal reaction. But you will never build self-trust if you don't just try step by step, maybe steps at a time, to encounter situations where you don't know how things are going to go, where there is fear there, and choose trust over doubt.
32:58 Jemma Sbeg? The more risks you take in service of trusting yourself, the more reinforcement you'll get as well. And the more that you'll realise that this is an exercise that is worthwhile. So even when the decisions don't always work out, it's still actually a really valuable exercise. It's basically building an internal sense of like, okayness, like this is going to be fine. And this really brings me to my next point, which is intuition, which is to really examine when your intuition is about instinct and when it is anxiety. When is it actually not intuition, but it's just fear? So I think that a really great way to think about intuition is that intuition isn't just something that is in us to avoid things. It's not just an avoidance technique.
33:42 Jemma Sbeg? Intuition is also something that guides us to abundance. So all of us have this intuition somewhere in us that we should be doing something, that there is something calling us, that there is a purpose that we have, that we should be volunteering more. We should be creating more, we should be writing more, we should be saying yes to more things. Intuition comes in that form as well. It's guiding you to something that's important for who you are. Don't ignore it. Don't listen to the anxious thought that's giving you a reason to doubt your positive intuition. And with your negative intuition, test and see what times is that just anxiety? And what times is it actually a gut instinct?
34:27 Jemma Sbeg? When could I have pushed forward a little bit? And really got to the bottom of whether this was my intuition telling me what to do? Or whether it was just fear? That's a really important challenge. And I would also challenge you to start reconsidering your need for the approval of others? Or the validation of your choices? So if you have a positive intuition or a positive gut instinct towards a decision? Telling you to do something, telling you to make a big change, to move somewhere, to create something? To dump someone, whatever it is. I don't think that you need others to tell you that you're right. Because chances are that if you have that feeling, you already know that this is what you should be doing.
35:09 Jemma Sbeg? And sometimes we bury ourselves again in getting as many of the opinions of others and the advice from others. We, we do that because we don't want to make a decision. But if your gut instinct is saying, this is something that's really calling me? You've got to do it. Also, these people who give you their advice, right? They're not the ones who have to encounter the decision, right? They don't actually have to pull the trigger the way that you do. They also probably aren't as invested in this as you are. They probably don't know you as well as you know yourself. They might believe they know what's best for you, but you actually know what's best for you. That's part of self-trust. So what that involves is, yes, making decisions without getting a million pieces of advice from
35:52 Jemma Sbeg? everyone, from your best friend to, to your neighbour, to some stranger. Like just do what feels best for you. But also just slowly testing that by wearing outfits without, you know, asking if your friends like them. Buying the things that you want to buy without asking someone else whether it looks cute. Making career choices without first needing to ask everyone whether it's a good idea. Obviously, we all love feedback, but when you're going after excessive feedback? It can also be a form of, of avoidance. Avoidance is not self-trust. And that is our year, our year is for self-trust. So, twenty twenty five in summary, your theme is your year for trusting yourself. And what that really means is releasing the need for external validation,
36:36 Jemma Sbeg? tapping into your positive intuition that is telling you this is where you need to be, this is where you need to go. Knowing that you can survive being uncomfortable, knowing that you can survive being uncertain, and just seriously living for you. It's a new year, it's a blank page, it's a fresh start. And I know that's rather arbitrary, but sometimes we need the arbitrary idea of a new chapter to really commit to a new mindset and a new lifestyle. And I hope that this is one that really resonates with you. If your year for fully trusting yourself is not the theme that suits you, I really also implore you to come up with your own. It could be your year for self-discipline, it could be your year for taking risks, if that wasn't the one that you took on last year.
37:20 Jemma Sbeg? It could be your year for gratitude, it could be your year for saying yes. It could be your year for eliminating people-pleasing. What is your theme and how does it touch every area of your life? Write it on a piece of paper, write it real big. Have it on your desk, have it in your car, have it at your, you know, place of work, anywhere, on your mirror, so that you can fully embrace how a theme will touch every single part of your year. Thank you so much for listening and thank you so much for your support in twenty twenty four. Twenty twenty five is about to be a wild year. I can't wait to meet more of you, speak to you, hear your journeys. I just, that's like my favorite part about this.
38:02 Jemma Sbeg? You guys just inspire me so much, so I can't wait for more of that. I can't wait for you guys to read my book. Can't wait for more episodes. And also, next episode, I have a big surprise, a huge surprise. So if you have made it this far, I really want you to tune in, cuz it's, it's just like the craziest thing I've ever done. As always, if you enjoyed this episode, make sure that you are following along on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, wherever you are listening. It's a new year, so maybe think about leaving us a five-star review so more people can find us in twenty Twenty five, of course, only if you feel called to do so, but we really do appreciate it. Share this episode on Instagram, share it with your friends, share it with your partner,
38:45 Jemma Sbeg? share it with someone else who you think really needs to begin trusting themselves, whoever that may be. And until next time, stay safe, be kind, be gentle with yourself, and we will talk very, very soon. Happy New Year.
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