The Snack: Canceling Men vs. Women, Barbie Nightmare, and Hard Launch Goals

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we’re talking about: Announcing Ashley’s special! A terrifying Easter cake goes viral Barbie Dream Fest was a nightmare The latest on the Summer House scandal Women being canceled vs. men Controversial return of Kanye West + Wireless Festival canceled Dakota Mortensen cut from Vanderpump Villa Headlines: Tiger Woods DUI body cam footage, Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni lawsuit, Kim K. and Lewis Hamilton hard launch, Pam Bondi fired Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for live show tickets and more. Thank you to our partners this week: Vivrelle: Get your first month free and skip the waitlist at http://vivrelle.com/ with code GGE. Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at https://quince.com/GGE. The Testaments: Watch the The Testaments now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. Terms apply. NOCD: If you’re struggling with OCD book a free 15-minute call at https://learn.nocd.com/gge. AG1: Get an AG1 Flavor Sampler plus a bottle of Vitamin D3 + K2 FREE with your first AG1 subscription at https://drinkAG1.com/GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  This week on The Snack, Barbie Nightmare Fest, a Ferrari hard launch, and the Summer House drama continues.

• 0:08Rayna Greenberg?

  This is a Dear Media production.

• 0:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Enjoy.

• 0:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:15Rayna Greenberg?

  We gotta say hi.

• 0:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I asked people, do you miss the hi? And they were like, fuck, yes. We only missed it once, and it was on a snack. We would never miss a hi, guys, on a Monday. That's like never happened in the history of time.

• 0:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Once in a blue moon, I will forget what my cue is. You know, I'm like, hi, guys, and then I forget the next line.

• 0:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  It does happen to me once in a blue moon. We are tired.

• 0:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know why. It's like we went to bed early.

• 0:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, hot take, it's hard to sleep not in your own bed. You know, at this point, this is what I do when I come to the East Coast. I'm in like my parents' house, my brother's house, hotel room in New York. That's, it's a lot of beds.

• 0:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Club, bus, another club.

• 0:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, parents pull out couch.

• 0:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I, do you feel like you are, I get overstimmed in New York. I can't sleep. I stay up super late and I wake up late.

• 1:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  I thought you were gonna say your parents' house. And there's like a whole TikTok. Overstimulated, your parents' house. Over the holidays, I saw so much content about this of just being overstimulated. When you're used to living on your own, in your own quiet, or whatever you have going on in your house, and you get to your parents' house. And my parents' TV is, it's not on all the time, but when it's on, it's out of 12.

• 1:21Rayna Greenberg?

  You have 18 cats.

• 1:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  There are so many animals. Like, I got in this TikTok hole of people feeling they love their parents, they want to be with their parents, but the older you get and the more you live your own life in your own home, especially if you're alone, or just with your partner, or whatever, you go back to your parents, and it's a lot.

• 1:38Rayna Greenberg?

  It is nonstop talking. I mean, and especially like you and me, like, we live really far from our families. And so like, I go home and like, when I woke up, I said to my brother, like, I expect to see you every minute on Saturday. And he was like, challenge accepted, bitch. Like, we went to brunch at 9:00 a.m. and we did not

• 1:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Brunch.

• 1:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Break. Brunch, another brunch, club. We did not break from the hang until 11 o'clock at night. And it was continuous, like, talking. And with my sister-in-law's family, and it was just like, everyone's like, eating and drinking and talking, and the baby, the baby, the baby. I mean, I was overstimulated, and I was like, I know I requested this, and I regret it.

• 2:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  I hate a loud TV. I really, I think I'm becoming more sensitive to sound as I get older.

• 2:20Rayna Greenberg?

  You've been always sensitive to sound.

• 2:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's just, my dad's hearing, you know, it's gotta be up. Like, I was like, Mom, you have to turn down the TV. I can't like live like, I'd rather hear the, my nephew screaming than a TV at like a 15.

• 2:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, you and I aren't TV at home people.

• 2:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's exactly.

• 2:35Rayna Greenberg?

  We're not background noise TV people.

• 2:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent.

• 2:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Sometimes I just realize I've been sitting in silence for an hour and I'm like, I should set a vibe.

• 2:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yo, you live with somebody. TV, no TV during dinner. Like, I'm that bitch.

• 2:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't, do you think that's of a different generation? I can't like imagine somebody, like any of our friends turning the TV on during dinner.

• 2:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  I used to eat dinner in front of the TV all the time.

• 2:57Rayna Greenberg?

  When you lived alone?

• 2:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 2:58Rayna Greenberg?

  That's different, though. There's somebody with you.

• 3:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. Like, I'm like, we're gonna take a break and we're gonna dine.

• 3:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, because I don't hear from you from like 6 PM to 8 PM. I know.

• 3:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Dinner music.

• 3:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I know Shashank has walked in the door because I don't hear from you for two hours.

• 3:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, let's thank our partners, then we have a big announcement today, guys.

• 3:14Rayna Greenberg?

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• 3:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to The Testaments. Watch The Testaments now, streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. Terms apply. And NoCD, if you're struggling with OCD, book a free 15 minute call at learn.noCD.com slash GGE. And AG1, get an AG1 flavor sampler plus a bottle of vitamin D3 plus K2 free with your first AG1 subscription at drinkag1.com slash GG. I don't know what that says.

• 3:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know how you did that.

• 3:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know how you just check it in the episode description.

• 3:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I've never been foggier. I don't know how you did that. Okay, we have a, well, not we, you have a.

• 4:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, we have, it's.

• 4:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I was there, I was there. You have a huge announcement. I'm just, without further ado, I just, I feel really emotional. I'm very excited to talk about it.

• 4:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I am announcing my special. I did already announce it on social media. Variety got the exclusive over Girls Got to Eat Podcast. But I am so excited to announce that my special, Here Comes the Bride, will premiere on April 30th. And it will be a live YouTube experience. So someone in the comments just wrote, how is this live if it was pre-taped? And I'm like, fair question. So it is live in that it will feel like a live event and I will be in the chat. Which is something I'm so excited to do. I love this community, having an interactive experience with you guys. And so that will be on April 30th, 8:00 PM Eastern, 5:00 PM Pacific, a little early for the West Coast.

• 4:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then it will be on Prime Video on May 1st.

• 4:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm just, I feel like I'm gonna cry. I'm so like, I'm so excited for people to see this. Like, you traveled all year last year. You did 43 shows. I was there for both tapings of this. I can't believe how beautiful it looks. I can, because you put a lot of time and money and work into it, and like, it really shows. I, visually, it's one of the most beautiful specials I've ever seen. Like, it just, it looks like, it looks expensive. And the actual content and art behind it, the jokes, the storytelling, it's just, it's so special. It's so unique and different. I just, I can't wait for other people to see it. Congratulations, and you've worked really a long time, really hard for this.

• 5:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thanks. Yeah, if you're new here, I shot this last year after a 43-show tour. Three weeks before my wedding, I was fully crashing out. You can't tell. I seem calm and composed, but it was like a crash-out mode, and it was the best time of my life. And I wish I was crashing out every day like that. But it was really wonderful. That was the best night of my life professionally. And yes, it looked so beautiful. I was sharing just photos with another comic the other night when I told him where I filmed it, which was the City Winery here in New York. And he was like, I can't even believe what they did to the place. So I cannot wait for you guys to see it, and the whole look and feel. And I'll share more, I mean, as we go, and the week it launches, I'll share some more, maybe about the journey, and some of the thank-yous, and the people who really made it possible.

• 6:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, just such a huge team of people. And Don't Tell Comedy produced it. Kyle from Don't Tell was the director. Executive produced by Andrew Russell of WME, a close personal friend. My goal was just to have as many people as possible be able to watch this. I want to share it with the world. I don't want it to be hard to access. And so having it free on YouTube, having the live experience, and then also on Prime Video, so one of the major streamers, biggest in the US, some would say, subscriber-wise. So I really just want it to be accessible. Well, everybody and you know, if you have YouTube premium or Prime premium, you can watch without commercials, which is the experience I would like you to have. But whatever you guys want to do, there's multiple ways to watch it.

• 7:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it's really about the last three years of my life. I mean, this, my journey to end up with my husband, but dating before him and moving to LA and my feelings on marriage and not having kids and moving in with him and the things that happened and sex, of course, and Raina's a part of it, obviously.

• 7:18Rayna Greenberg?

  The sex part.

• 7:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's a big part.

• 7:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm a big part of the sex part.

• 7:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, we review our threesome, no, the wedding night. And my family and there's real footage from my wedding.

• 7:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I've never seen anybody do that before.

• 7:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, I, one comic who I really look up to in terms of his comedy incorporated real footage from his life and I thought it was the coolest thing and I'd already wanted to do that and I was like, okay, someone's, yeah, I could have been the first that I've known of, but the way he did it, I was like, okay, I think people want this. I think they want to see the, the real stuff, like from your life. And so the team that edited it did it perfectly and Ryan shot, our videographer, shot the wedding footage. So there's footage from him in there. There's this really special surprise at the end. Make sure you watch it all the way to the end. And yeah, I will, I'll drop the link soon for that YouTube premiere, but those are the dates. So April 30th, May 1st.

• 8:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Save the date and the trailer is coming soon and I'll just keep promoting it. You're, you're gonna get sick of it.

• 8:18Rayna Greenberg?

  The trailer, you got, the trailer, I was like, taking a walk. I was like, I'm about to run through a wall. This is so good. It's just, it's so incredible.

• 8:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Anna, our editor, is in the room with us today and Anna did the trailer and it was such a, we're on version 13.

• 8:30Rayna Greenberg?

  That's very you.

• 8:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's very you. But it's like, it has to be perfect and it's like, we really got there. Trailers are hard, Anna, which is like, they're a real, they're a real skill with the music and the, you know, all the things.

• 8:43Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, I mean, people specifically that their one skill set.

• 8:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  And people don't.

• 8:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 8:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  And so what I asked was like, I don't do them and I'm not doing it.

• 8:51Rayna Greenberg?

  The stakes are too high.

• 8:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I'll help where I can, but I'm not doing that.

• 8:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, it's like shooting somebody's wedding almost. It's like, you don't really have like, you have one shot to get this right.

• 8:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 8:59Rayna Greenberg?

  One opportunity.

• 9:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  One opportunity. I do the line in the special.

• 9:03Rayna Greenberg?

  If you had one shot. Would you take it or let it slip away?

• 9:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Would, yeah. Forget it. I can't, I can't.

• 9:09Rayna Greenberg?

  We're over.

• 9:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  The special's over. I don't remember that shit.

• 9:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think you could do the hour?

• 9:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have had that thought and I maybe. It does start to come back. I'm still doing some bits here and there in different ways when I'm doing shows, but I don't know if I I haven't done it since October.

• 9:29Rayna Greenberg?

  You might forget a tad or two, but I bet you could do it.

• 9:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think I might forget the flow. Once I get going on the joke, it all comes back to me, but the like, what comes next? Just go blank, biggest fear in comedy.

• 9:40Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I hear you doing bits in my head all the time. So I, so I copy you all the time. Like I just hear it in my head.

• 9:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you've heard it too many times, honestly. And the same with Shashank and he'll say stuff like the, from the special, like you guys just, you shouldn't have had to be exposed that much.

• 9:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I've, I, do you think I saw this more or he saw this more? I was trying to think who came on the road with you a little bit more and probably him, but the night that you shot the special, I watched it from the audience with Andrew the first time, me, Andrew and Shashank up in the balcony. And then the second time around, um, I watched it backstage and it was fun to have like both of those experiences. And I mean, I was pretty drunk the second time, but, um, it was just like such a special night and the vibe was so great. And I just, I truly can't wait for people to see this. I feel like I'm such a special historian. Like I've seen every special that exists on every stream or every platform, not everyone, but a lot.

• 10:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I just, you have, I think you watch more comedy specials than anyone I know. Besides like some weird incel in the basement with the, like as far as a cool girl.

• 10:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Like a normal.

• 10:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  A normal person.

• 10:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Who comes up out of the basement.

• 10:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  A comedy special historian. I look, turn to you for advice because you've seen them all.

• 10:44Rayna Greenberg?

  The set design was beautiful. The way it shot is beautiful. It's like a movie. I mean, obviously the content is amazing, but like the experience of watching it is so great. You look so beautiful. I'm just really excited for people to see that.

• 10:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, thanks. Oh my God. Yes. And obviously Raina is such a big part of it and it really was the, the best night. And this, we talked about this hair fixing moment that we need to like, you'll, you guys will see at some point on our social media. That's like some behind the scenes stuff.

• 11:07Rayna Greenberg?

  And you're doing some really fun press also leading up to this. What day are you on Patriots Radio? Remind me.

• 11:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  It would have been today as this airs.

• 11:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. So Patriots Radio today.

• 11:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's live on Sirius. There'll be more. Yeah, you guys just, you know, watch the space.

• 11:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Watch the space.

• 11:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, thank you guys for being along in the ride. I get really emotional, I think, about like our audience and just like, it's all I care about is that you guys like it. You know, like if people are like, don't know me or don't know my story and they don't like it, you have bad taste, but like you don't, you don't get it. And it's not for you. I think it's for everybody. I really think it's wonderful. Like who doesn't love love and jokes and all the things. And I think it's, I think the content's amazing, obviously. I'm proud of it. But it's just like our audience, like when I think about them being a part of this, that's why I wanted to do the interactive element too. Like that's what makes me like really emotional and just all the support over the years. Like, again, like you guys are the ones that matter.

• 12:00Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys just tune in every week and you've been along for the journey. I mean, I can't tell you how many people I run into on the street, I'm talking to the audience, you, the plural, you, that say like, I've listened since 2018, I've listened since 2019, I've been through every breakup with you guys, every success, every failure, every, everything. And like, to know that people have been along for the ride for all three of your years of this relationship and like to get to watch it in another form is really special. I think people feel like a real connection to that.

• 12:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so it's for you guys. So I hope you love it. Save the date. Okay, let's get into our report. We have a special one today. We have a nightmare report. Someone say nightmare fuel report.

• 12:37Rayna Greenberg?

  This thing you actually, the first one you introduced me this morning, and you know what's weird? Like, do you ever see something on your feed and you scroll past it a couple of times? And then somebody says something to you about it and you're like, how did I ignore this?

• 12:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I need to revisit it.

• 12:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. So the headline is Detroit Bakery Easter Lamb Cake Has The Internet Gagging. I mean, this bakery in Detroit.

• 12:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Gagging in a couple, like gagging, like shocked, but gagging, like dry heaving, but also they want it. It's a viral sensation, this Easter lamb cake that they put out as a April Fools prank. Did you know lamb cakes were a thing? Is this the first you're hearing of them? Cause I, I didn't-

• 13:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Have they been a thing? I just thought we were doing like Easter candy. I thought like Cadbury Eggs and like Peeps and things like that. I did not know we were doing- Animal cakes kinda creep me out. You gotta cut the head off?

• 13:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  We eat animals, so it's like-

• 13:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, but I don't look at the head. I like, I don't want a whole fish served to me.

• 13:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Nope, nope.

• 13:34Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't like watching a pig roast. I don't like, I don't-

• 13:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Same, the animal head.

• 13:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't wanna see the face of it.

• 13:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I'm fine with a cake. Like it's, is this cake what-

• 13:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't even look at this. You guys, you guys go to YouTube-

• 13:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or Spotify and watch this. So this Detroit, obviously Detroit, we love Detroit, shout out to Detroit. They did this as a prank and it, it's so Hideous, it's so terrifying, but like, it's kinda ugly cute, this lamb cake. And people are like, I want it.

• 14:00Rayna Greenberg?

  It has fucked up teeth. The eyes are pointing in different directions. All of the frosting is cracked.

• 14:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's from the streets. So people were like, I need it. People love that shit. Like ugly, ugly hot. So people were like, I want that cake. And then I just think that this, again, we talked about, we'll talk about on Monday, how Easter was on steroids this year, but this is even more proof. So then I just started seeing a lot of content about Easter lamb cakes. And especially, I feel like maybe people who aren't Christian are like, what the fuck are these Christians doing with these lamb cakes? And there's such a range. Like we'll post this one reel that I found of like, which Easter lamb cake are you, like, they can look really cute. And, and nice and not scary. And then they can look like this. And so there's a real spectrum. So check this out if you guys are watching on YouTube and shout out to that bakery.

• 14:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think, I mean, this clearly didn't do what they thought it was gonna do. I would see this and be like, I must have this.

• 14:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's so terrifying. The googly eyes.

• 14:56Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, those teeth are worse than Azul's.

• 14:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, this is like if Azul was a cake and he was on crack and I had never rescued him. This is what he would look like on the streets. This is what he looked like the day I fostered him.

• 15:09Rayna Greenberg?

  But like-

• 15:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  The first day I got him.

• 15:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, because he was all like musty.

• 15:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Mangled and smelled.

• 15:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  The day I forgot Azul to foster, quote unquote, I, we went and sat on the patio till the groomer was ready to take him in for a bath. I couldn't even smell him. I was like, what is wrong with this ant? Like, there's no way I'm keeping him. He's disgusting. He's this cake.

• 15:32Rayna Greenberg?

  And he, but he's so desirable now. Like that cake, I would be like, I have to have that cake. Like, I'm not doing like a sweet lamb, like, you know, just like, doesn't scare the kids kind of cake. This, this lamb will scare every child in the neighborhood.

• 15:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's so funny. Like, I would fuck with my kids like that. Like, I'd be like, happy birthday. And it's like, I'd scream. But this, the one time, this, who sent it to me? Um, I forget. Carvel? I think Carvel. Because I did work with them years, years, years ago. Sent me a gritty cake. Gritty the mascot.

• 16:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I know about this.

• 16:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't think you were there that Christmas. They, I can't remember. They sent me a cake of gritty. And it looked like gritty who's kind of scary looking anyway, in a fun, funny way. And then it started to melt. It was terrifying. And I still took a picture with it. I was, had to post content with it. I was like, my dad didn't put it in the freezer. It's melted a little bit. And they were like, they were like, that's kind of funny. I'll, I'll post it. I'll post.

• 16:25Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what this looks like. It looks like a lamb melted. Yes.

• 16:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Okay, so next on the nightmare report is Barbie Dream Fest turned out to be a nightmare.

• 16:36Rayna Greenberg?

  So this was a festival in, no shock, Florida.

• 16:42Rayna Greenberg?

  It's a company that licensed the name Barbie from Mattel, and they put on this like Barbie Dream Fest. And it's supposed to be this like really cute festival for children. And it is a disaster. I mean, it is just a big concrete, I don't know, convention center. And the main color of Barbie, obviously, is pink. There's like three pink things in this whole room. The whole floor is concrete. The tickets for this, Dream Fest started at $69. That should have been your first tip off. A $69 ticket for a child's festival.

• 17:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, something's going wrong.

• 17:11Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, nothing was going right at this festival. And tickets went up to like, as high as $449 with a $50 coupon to pay more money to, to get other things like photos. There and this is so shocking to me because like after Fire Festival and like the Willy Wonka Festival. Like, how could you possibly conceive of putting this on? If you're, people are saying like, we showed up at the festival's starting time and the vendors were still arriving and setting up.

• 17:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so it was just super disorganized and chaotic anyway, besides aesthetically a nightmare.

• 17:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Horrifying, yes. It looked like, I don't know, just like a parking lot with some pink in it. But like, the fact that you did not just cancel this festival.

• 17:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, I wonder what attendance was like. I mean, a festival gone wrong is my pop culture porn category. Like, I saw this and I was like, hell yeah, I'm sad for this. I mean, obviously Fire Festival. But the Willy Wonka Fest, if you guys don't remember, we talked about it. This was in Glasgow, right?

• 18:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't remember.

• 18:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  People called the cops. Like, kids were crying. Like, kids were scared. They got taken out of their crying. The police showed up. It was so bad. So, I live for this shit. It looks like the most low-budget expo. Like, even there's, when they're walking in, you know, you can tell you're just in like, a hotel. The carpet, there's like a balloon arch, like, nothing was pink. Like you said, it's just, the room is too big.

• 18:26Rayna Greenberg?

  It looks like a dystopian society.

• 18:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Like, it really, it looks like a tour of a Barbie manufacturing facility. Like, it looks like a warehouse. It looks like, here's where we make the Barbies. And like, kids shouldn't be in here.

• 18:39Rayna Greenberg?

  You know what it does make me really?

• 18:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Looks like a hard hat tour for Barbie.

• 18:41Rayna Greenberg?

  It does. Like, you're gonna go into the factory now.

• 18:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it looks like the literal warehouse.

• 18:45Rayna Greenberg?

  It just, it makes me sad because like, people's kids really look forward to this and they were so excited. Also, these are very expensive tickets and like, to show up as a little girl and this is what the experience is.

• 18:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  And this is a problem with AI, because they put out images of what it should look like.

• 18:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Really?

• 18:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, also, that's false advertising. Like, they should get sued for this. I don't think that's fair. If you put out a bunch of AI images and it showed up and looked nothing like them. Like, people sued McDonald's back in the day for that shit. We should be able to sue. I would 100% sue. Take on Barbie Dream Fest on behalf of my kids being scarred for life. Fuck yeah.

• 19:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Love your, love your truth. You finally get to be a PI.

• 19:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll show up. Lawyer and judge. The cops show up to this one.

• 19:24Rayna Greenberg?

  So that's your nightmare report, everybody. So, you know, hopefully this is a lesson learned. Like, these festivals just need to do better, especially when they're for kids. It's just, I don't know what you guys thought. Like, it wasn't ready. So like, why did you let people show up for this? Mattel put out a statement and was like, "We licensed the name. This was not on us, and we are refunding the money."

• 19:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  But they need to do better with who they license the name to. It's giving Devil Wears Prada 2 merch at Target. Like, how did this happen?

• 19:49Rayna Greenberg?

  How did this happen?

• 19:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it should be in a smaller space and more compact and just more elevated, obviously, goes without saying. I mean, this was hot garbage, but, you know.

• 19:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank you for bringing up Devil Wears Prada, because it's not in here. But you saw Meryl Streep and Anna Wintour on the cover of American Vogue today?

• 20:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 20:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Iconic. Iconic.

• 20:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 20:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Could you die? I mean, the image that is worth like a thousand words. Obviously, my comment was actually groundbreaking.

• 20:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. The likes are flowing in.

• 20:21Rayna Greenberg?

  The likes are flowing in.

• 20:22Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 21:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Again, not fishing for compliments, just like you really feel like you need those answers. So, this is relationship OCD, and it may seem like overthinking or commitment issues, but they actually can be signs of relationship OCD. A lot of people think this is just about cleaning and organizing, but that couldn't be more wrong. So, real OCD is a serious condition where these distressing unwanted thoughts get stuck on repeat, and you feel driven to do certain mental or physical behaviors, called compulsions, to try to make them stop. And it can be exhausting, and it can affect your personal relationships. But it is one of the most treatable mental health conditions when you get the right kind of specialized therapy, which is ERP therapy, exposure and response prevention, which is proven to be the most effective. Regular talk therapy is not recommended. It can actually make OCD worse.

• 21:48Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 22:14Rayna Greenberg?

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• 22:59Rayna Greenberg?

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• 23:32Rayna Greenberg?

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• 23:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I just, do you feel like, yes, the world's on fire? Like, we're all gonna die probably next week. Like, everything is really bad. My special, you'll never get to see it.

• 23:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Right. Trump's gonna hit the button.

• 23:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's over.

• 23:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 23:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's threatening civilians. He's been over. But pop culture wise, like, what are this? What we're getting with Mormon Wives, Summer House, heated rivalry, like,

• 24:09Rayna Greenberg?

  We're over served.

• 24:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, we are over served. Like, there's never been a better time in pop culture than 2026. I will die on that hill. I, when stuff is happening, I'm like, how were we this lucky? I guess it's because we need it because to balance out.

• 24:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 24:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  The hellscape.

• 24:24Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, I have not had like a pop culture fucking, just like, needle to the vein, like, Scandival in years. And then we got back to back weeks with Taylor Frankie Paul, Amanda Batula and Wes Wilson. Like, how did this happen to us?

• 24:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. Well, let's get into it. So, we recorded last week about Summer House an hour after it happened. So, we pushed back our recording because it happened as I was like trying to get ready. I mean, it happened at 10 a.m. And we typically record at 11. So, we really just had to like, collect our thoughts. And we had some regrets, just because we hadn't really thought about it enough. We hadn't seen more things that came out. And whatever, I think we did a fine job. But I mean, it's just still, it slowed down a little bit. But for the, all of last week and over the weekend, it was just all I was seeing. So, so much has happened since. So, we just want to circle back.

• 25:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I mean, it feels like it has slowed down a teeny tiny bit. Now, people are sort of like, listening in and reporting on like Lindsay's conversations in public, Wes's conversations in public. The season is still airing and then we're gonna film the reunion in a couple of weeks. So, we're gonna keep getting fed by this. But I really want to pop off about something.

• 25:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 25:32Rayna Greenberg?

  So, the thing that came out, I guess, a day or two after, Amanda Batula and Wes Wilson have not spoken out about this. But Kyle Cook gave a basically man on the street interview to somebody from TMZ. Is that who that was?

• 25:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  I still am confused and I don't care enough. But yeah.

• 25:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, great.

• 25:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Someone got the exclusive of him coming out of his apartment. Just ready to talk.

• 25:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And, you know, if I knew nothing about him, I would be like, that's a really, that's a real man. That's a really measured person. He said, you know, I'm disappointed about this. He didn't say terrible things about either of them, really. And he said, you know, Amanda is somebody who struggles with mental health and, you know, please remember that. And I was like, that's, if I knew nothing else about him, I'd be like, that's a really stand-up guy who's still sticking up for the person he was with for 10 years. It seemed calm and measured. I would like to pop off about the things that he said.

• 26:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  What? Like since or on the show?

• 26:22Rayna Greenberg?

  On that interview.

• 26:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 26:24Rayna Greenberg?

  And get your reaction.

• 26:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 26:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. So he said, you know, keep in mind that she's somebody with mental health issues and-

• 26:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sorry to interrupt you. Wasn't it like a three-parter?

• 26:32Rayna Greenberg?

  They divided it into two parts.

• 26:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, got it. Okay. Cause I've watched Carl's a Mess, part one, and then-

• 26:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Actually, I can't st- Carl's a Mess is just, I say it to myself all day long.

• 26:45Rayna Greenberg?

  When people are like, I'm stuck in traffic. And I'm like, and Carl's a mess.

• 26:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Carl's a mess.

• 26:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I can't see Carl being the most upset of all these people.

• 26:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  We went to dinner with one of Carl's best friends. She's also one of our best friends that night. And we're like, is Carl a mess? He was like, Carl's a mess. I was just with Carl. He was came from me with Carl. He came straight from Carl to us. And he was like-

• 27:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I had to console Carl.

• 27:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can confirm he's a mess. Okay, go ahead.

• 27:09Rayna Greenberg?

  So I do, I agree with the sentiment of like, these are real people. And when the entire weight of the internet is thrown at somebody for, listen, she didn't kill anybody. They didn't kill anybody. It is, it is hard. And these are real people. And people have, they've ended their lives for online bullying. And, you know, you saw what happened with Raquel Levis after Scandival. She checked her mental institution for months. And so I would never encourage anybody to do that. However, no one would know about this if Amanda Petula and Wes Wilson weren't on Instagram stories every single day, dancing around, drinking, eating. And you and I have a lot of mutual friends with them. And so I started to notice, before I even heard this, they're just together a lot. They're dancing around a lot, like just being goofy together. And the Instagram stories I noticed

• 27:52Rayna Greenberg?

  them on are these accounts that are not small account, people that are verified with millions of followers. And even if they weren't hooking up with each other, if I'm Ciara and I'm like, my, my very close friend and my ex who did me so dirty are just being goofy on the internet together, I have a real problem with that. Nobody would know about this if they hadn't been being like silly and goofy and then people started asking questions and getting in the comments and saying, what's going on here? And Andy Cohen is asking Kyle and West and they put out the feelers, other than sleeping together, they weren't that secretive about this.

• 28:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 28:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that they were actually like teasing this kind of a lot. They're being a little careless, like I dare you to catch us kind of, and I don't think they were trying to, but this is not two people that kept this really private. And so to be like, you know, think about her mental health, of course, but and she's not saying think about my mental health, but you can't do something to somebody that is really, really terrible and deplorable and then claim mental health.

• 28:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  But he's saying that.

• 28:49Rayna Greenberg?

  He's saying it, not her.

• 28:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and I have thoughts on like the line between accountability and bullying.

• 28:54Rayna Greenberg?

  A hundred percent.

• 28:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm with you. I can't believe the way this went down. I mean, for me last week to be like, they're probably in love. God, I was so off. They are not together. That much is clear. West is hooking up with somebody every night that's it appears to be he's having threesomes, he's doing all this. I mean, these are just all the claims that are coming out. Like he is a fuck boy for the generations. Like they're not a couple, right? So.

• 29:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I don't know, but as soon as this came out, there were a bunch of women that came for it. And of course, people can lie, but multiple women were like, I'm dating him.

• 29:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so what it appears to have happened, which is out there in the news and we have had it confirmed as well, is that there was a video of them, there was video proof. And so that's why they made this statement. I was joking when we were at that dinner, I was like, I would go full Donald Trump. I'd be like, deny, deny, gaslight, lie, that was AI. I mean, I'm half kidding, but like the way they made this statement, I still can't believe it. Who approved this? Who let them do this in this way? They made it so much more serious. Like it could have been done so differently. It could have been like, we slipped up and we hooked up and I'm so sorry. Like, why did they do it like this? Like, why did they do this joint black background, white statement? We're seeing where the relationship goes. It wasn't that apologetic. It was this huge announcement.

• 30:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I still can't get over the way that they did this. I thought they'd be smarter than that. I mean, I don't think they're that smart. I mean, Amanda Batul has been on the show for a decade. How does she not know what would have happened here? And anyone saying like this is all planned and orchestrated, it's not, it's, it's not. I mean, it's just not, it's just not. We've talked to so many people that know them that this wasn't. And like, you wish it was because it would have been done differently. Bravo would have handled it differently. If they had a hand in it, like, the way that they did this, who let this happen?

• 30:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I don't know. I'm with you. When this came out, I mean, before really digesting this for a couple of days and all these other women coming forward saying, I'm dating him too, I'm sleeping with him too. I was like, clearly they have burned their, their professional lives to the ground because they're in love.

• 30:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 30:52Rayna Greenberg?

  But that statement did not say that. It didn't say that we are so sorry for who we've hurt. I mean, it didn't say that either. There didn't seem to be a lot of accountability. And I understand people saying like, the heart wants what it wants. I fell in love with somebody that I was really close friends with. This just happens. But it didn't say those things. And I'm just curious, like, what's going to happen at the reunion? Like, are they going to walk out hand in hand? They better. They better be like, we are in love. But that doesn't seem to be what's happening.

• 31:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're not in love. Okay. I have a question for you.

• 31:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 31:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you think that Amanda underestimated how much people love Ciara and don't ride for her? Like, do you think there's a world in which Amanda thought she was a fan favorite and this would not happen? Like, I can't stop going over this in my head, how anyone else could have seen this response and they didn't. Unless they just didn't care.

• 31:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe that. Maybe she overestimated how much kindness she would get from the fans for leaving Kyle. I mean, there was so much like-

• 31:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  She felt untouchable?

• 31:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, positive hype around her. And, you know, I don't, I can't even begin to understand what it feels like to be on a reality show at a very young age, 23 years old, 24. She's with this guy who verbally abused her on national television and cheated on her. And she's with somebody for 10 years through her twenties, her early thirties. She gets out of this relationship. Anybody would act a little crazy and go kind of wild, but, and yeah, maybe you date some people that are wrong for you. But betraying your friend and, you know, it's a little different if, you know, I always think like- We all date a lot of people. Are every one of those people off limits to everybody else around you? No. You know, if I was in a serious relationship with somebody that had a beginning, middle and an end, and I had an agency in that relationship ending, maybe I would be okay with somebody around me dating that person.

• 32:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Because I would feel like I ended this in a way that I needed to. But when somebody just hurts you so deeply, like Wes and Sierra, and does you so dirty, to watch your close friend go after that person, I can't imagine anything more painful.

• 32:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, and I keep coming back to Demi on Mormon Wives, saying explicitly that she was a fan favorite, and then acting unhinged. And I'm wondering if you have a delusional part of you that thinks you're the favorite, and you're empowered to do whatever you want. Like, I wonder if Amanda was like, "I have so much love from the audience and so much goodwill towards me right now, and everybody loves Wes." Like, who wouldn't support this? I can't wrap my head around her mindset. And Amanda sucks for this, that much is clear. Like, she's the queen of the pick-me's. I think that we have realized that now. I was always neutral on her. I wasn't like a hater. But I was like, whatever. I thought she was a better friend. I will say that. So, she's not a girl's girl. It's apparent. I don't think that she's that smart for doing this this way.

• 33:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, she didn't commit a crime. She's not a pedophile. She's not causing harm to the world. And like, I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Like, I am so bothered by the excitement to tear down a woman, and the enthusiasm to pile on and ruin this woman's life. And I get it, though. She did a shitty thing. She stabbed her friend in the back. She stabbed another woman in the back. A woman that people love, that we love. And so I understand why the story took off. Everybody has a take. We're doing it. Second week in a row, we're talking about this. I understand it, and I understand if you don't want to support her anymore. But like I said, there's a line between holding someone accountable and bullying them. Like, what do you want to do? Make her kill herself? Like, there's such a weird behavior to be in people's comments, and in their messages, and saying the meanest stuff. Like, that's not holding someone accountable. That's like, you're trying to bully them off the internet, or bully them into literal suicide.

• 34:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I just don't think this would have happened to a man. Like, Wes got-

• 34:20Rayna Greenberg?

  But it didn't happen to a man.

• 34:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  It didn't happen to a man. But just the, if a man did this to another man, it wouldn't even be news like this. But just in this situation, Wes got more followers from this. That was one of Kyle's main talking points on the street. Like, he did a shitty thing too. He had a really close relationship with Ciara. He had a friendship with her. He had an intimate relationship with her. Like, why the fuck would this increase his popularity? And I think there's a lot of things that are true at once. Like, we hold women to a higher standard, right? Like, I do expect more for women. I have more respect for women. When a woman disappoints you, it hurts worse because you didn't see it coming. So I understand why we feel this way. But I just like want us all to check ourselves, us included, of why we don't afford women the same grace we afford men

• 35:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  and why we crucify women so much more. And I just don't want us to let this vitriol for this woman overpower the ways we should be holding men accountable. Like, women just don't get the passes that men get. Like, Kanye is selling out stadiums. Louis CK sold out Madison Square Garden. Like, when this shit happens to women, they wear this scarlet letter forever. Like, Beyonce could never do an ounce of what Kanye has done. No woman comedian could come back like Louis CK.

• 35:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Chris D'elia, "Never Again."

• 35:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And it took a while, but he is back. And like, I'm all for forgiveness and giving people second chances, especially if you love their art. There's a line for me, for sure. Like, we don't need to get into this road. But there's something that doesn't matter how much I love your music. Like, Diddy, for example, what you've done, "Never Again." Like, you're off my Spotify for Life, R. Kelly, etc. But I just think we as women all need to check our internalized misogyny. And if you're being harder on women than these terrible men, why? And it's just, I don't know. That's just, it's on my mind. This isn't in defense of Amanda. It's just the bigger issue. And we can also care about pop culture and what's going on in the world. I'm not a person that's like, how can you care so much about this, but don't care about this? That's never gonna be me.

• 36:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, women just, they don't get forgiven, ever. Like, I always, I thought about that with Justin Timberlake and Jessica Biel, that like cheating scandal.

• 36:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I think all the time.

• 36:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  The way that Justin Timberlake apologized years ago when he was caught on camera with another woman, whatever, and people were like, "An honest king. Thank you, king." Jessica Biel would have been banned from society. She would have had to leave the country, leave the internet.

• 36:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I think what's happening in pop culture is what's happening in the world. This is just a metaphor for what happens everywhere. And as soon as this happened... I went to Amanda's page and I looked, I went to Wes's page and I was looking at the comments on both of their posts. And hers were so full of vitriol and hate. And I think, of course, so many women look at this and they're like, this is my worst nightmare.

• 36:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 36:55Rayna Greenberg?

  And they overrelate to it. And it's the worst thing they could ever imagine. And yes, we hold women to higher standards. We, men are supposed to be cheaters and scumbags and liars and manipulators. But I looked at his comments and I was like, there just aren't that many. And I was really shocked by it. And I think it's really interesting because in Kyle's little man on the street thing, he brings this up and he says, you know, I went to Wes Page and he's getting 50,000 followers. Kyle is also complaining about a system that also has rewarded him. Because Kyle has also been on television for a decade, verbally abusing his wife. Last week, calling her a stupid fucking bitch on national television and Loverboy is selling out across the country. So it's fascinating to me how quickly we forget.

• 37:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 37:35Rayna Greenberg?

  That like, exactly what this man is doing, I mean, people flooded Loverboy, bought it out, sold it out. This man was terrible to his wife on television. And we just kept watching. We rewarded him with more contracts, more scenes.

• 37:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 37:49Rayna Greenberg?

  By the way, what they did to Hannah Berner, I get like so mad about it when I think about it. And he says, you know, go easy on Amanda, which I agree with. But did you guys go easy on Hannah? When you got her kicked off the show and you terrorized her in the press? And that's just, you know, Ashley and I love Hannah and we care about her and we're friends with her. But like, to watch what they did to her in the press and just gas people up and do interviews about how terrible she is. Hannah also didn't do anything so terrible.

• 38:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't even remember what she allegedly did.

• 38:19Rayna Greenberg?

  But I just, I agree with you and I think it's an interesting, important conversation of like, why are we okay with one thing and not the other? And I think what Wes did is terrible. And him and Kyle are good friends. And I was looking through like, I, you never know how close anybody is. But I was looking through Kyle's posts and he posted for Wes's birthday. And he said like, happy birthday to my brother. And it was this whole roundup of photos of them. Like, they are close.

• 38:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's so crazy. This is this man's ex-wife.

• 38:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh huh.

• 38:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  What are we, why are we forgetting that? Like, I don't care, because I don't care about Kyle's feelings. Like, but I'm just saying, like, that's worse technically, because of the marriage of it all.

• 38:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 38:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, we're gonna just get into Kanye really quick, but there's one thing I really gotta bring up, and that is the Rihanna of it all.

• 39:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I, you never expected Rihanna to enter this chat.

• 39:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  We know Rihanna loves Bravo, so she's talked about, I thought she was a Housewives stan, and I didn't know Rihanna was watching Summer House. So, I guess Rihanna had followed all of them. Rihanna had followed Amanda, and then unfollowed Amanda. If Rihanna follows me, I've made it. If Rihanna unfollows me, I'm leaving the planet.

• 39:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Going into hiding.

• 39:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Can you imagine Rihanna following you, then she unfollows you? And then I guess Rihanna has said she wants to hook Ciara up with somebody people are speculating is Michael B. Jordan. I can't believe that. I can't get over the Rihanna aspect of this.

• 39:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, um, I like shipping her with like, a big celebrity, because so many people were saying like, she's gonna be the next Bachelorette. I honestly can't think of anything I'd wanna do less than date 30 men. It sounds like a punishment.

• 39:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love the takes about this. They're like, okay, she was traumatized by one man, why should she go be traumatized by 30 of them? And also, she's just bigger and better than this dying franchise.

• 39:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 39:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I really like the takes that were like, that's an insult.

• 39:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. And she has, I mean, I'm sure she will speak her truth when the time comes at the reunion. I mean, she's carried herself with nothing but class and poise, and just continued to post her brand deals and be on the red carpets, and I, I look forward to seeing what she has to say. I think that she is just wonderful, and, I mean, humble. You look at her, you're like, that's the most beautiful person I've ever seen in my life, and she's humble.

• 40:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, she's great.

• 40:21Rayna Greenberg?

  And we just, you know, we root for her, Team Ciara.

• 40:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And just one thing, I mean, Carl and Lindsay shot this Uber Eats commercial immediately. I mean, they obviously have Uber Eats deals, so, but the publicists dial them up, like, let's fucking go, Carl's a mess, let's go. So, they, they shot this commercial on Carl's a mess, and then she hands him tissues, and you're like, oh my god, you forget that they're, like, for a second, you're like, they were engaged in the whole breakup, and like, the world is healing, and it has united the rest of the cast, I'll say that.

• 40:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Certain members. Lindsay Hubbard, I always say, like, the devil works hard, Lindsay Hubbard works harder. When she got pregnant, she had that first response ad locked and loaded. She, that's how she announced her pregnancy, getting paid, she's monetizing off the back of Weston and Amanda.

• 41:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm not a fan of her as a person, I am a huge fan of her as a business person.

• 41:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, me too.

• 41:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  A queen, a Kris Jenner.

• 41:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Through and through.

• 41:11Rayna Greenberg?

  So it's interesting because these people are just like in the streets, going out in New York City. West, I think, traveled to, and I will probably get this wrong, Arizona to deal with Marriott. And had posted this thing, they edited him out of the videos because they were like, we can't have you in these Brandells. But people overheard him at the pool saying that him and Amanda were in a relationship. This is all just hearsay.

• 41:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 41:30Rayna Greenberg?

  So I am curious to see like what comes to light over the next couple of weeks before we get the reunion.

• 41:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Reunion, Jesus Christ. So yeah, we, we mentioned Kanye. Kanye is having a comeback. What he sold out two nights at SoFi, 80,000 seats, he made millions of dollars.

• 41:45Rayna Greenberg?

  160,000.

• 41:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  But again, you, you find your line for when you want to cancel somebody and how much their music and their art means to you and what they've done. Kanye, to me, is a real villain to the Jewish community. He sold shirts with swastikas on them. Like, did we forget this? You know, and so anyway, so that happened. But now the news as of today is he was supposed to headline the Wireless Festival in the UK. And they have canceled the festival because they have banned him from the UK. So the government has said he's caused so much harm, especially to this specific community. And he can't come in the country, which is crazy. So the Wireless Festival, if you're not familiar, it's huge. Drake headlined it last year, three different nights.

• 42:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  He did a different set every night, it was iconic. But it's huge. Just so it's like a Coachella. So he was supposed to headline it and he can't come in the country. To get banned from a country is crazy.

• 42:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, to me, the way he's gone after Jewish people, it is as bad to me as some other people. It's cancelable forever. Amanda Batula, okay, like I, I don't think, I don't, can't give her a pass. But like, this has nothing, this, this can't even hold a candle to what is going on with these men that have like really put a dark mark on society and incited violence and encouraged hatred, antisemitism, horrible things against women and people of certain races. And I can't forgive it. I can't look the other way. And I really like, there was a couple of people that I follow, that I'm friendly with, that I saw at this concert posting about it. And I felt like sick about it.

• 43:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I mean, you know, people justify it however they want.

• 43:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  The new album is good.

• 43:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Musically.

• 43:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's old gods, just like, people are like, the mu- that's the thing. People are like, I love the music. It meant a lot to me and like, he's back and it doesn't matter. I wouldn't go see him in concert. I wouldn't give him my money. But people are like, he has a mental illness. Again, I'm just saying, this is not what I'm saying. People say he's a mental illness. He has since come out and said he wants to reconnect with the Jewish community.

• 43:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Fuck him. The Jewish, on behalf of the, I'm not saying you're saying, on behalf of the Jewish community, fuck Kanye West.

• 43:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, it's, again, what, you were welcome to know anything and everything you know about him and make your own decision. You know, he is not in the Epstein files. He's not a fucking pedophile. He has caused a lot of harm. And I, I mean, I can't believe this. It's just, my point is people are so quick to forget.

• 44:08Rayna Greenberg?

  There is some justice in the world. Lisa Vanderpump has removed Dakota from Vanderpump Villa this season, which they should, and I think that was your, my idea. And I remember saying this a couple of weeks ago, that if Taylor gets kicked off The Bachelorette, then Dakota should be edited out of other things as well. So, thank you for taking our idea. And they have announced that he will be edited out of the footage.

• 44:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Reina, I love when people get edited out after the fact. So, this is a real deep cut, but Siesta Key, you know, I used to fuck with that show. The guy Alex in Siesta Key got in trouble for racist stuff. He got canceled. His dad, I think, was like, one of the creators of the show. He was like the main character. He was the top main character. And they had to edit him out of a season. And it was crazy, because he was there. And then they would, you could tell someone was like, talking to him. The editing was crazy. I watched that season for the editing out of him to just see how they did it. It was hilarious.

• 44:58Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just so funny to like, watch scenes where you know people are sitting at a dinner table together.

• 45:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, yes.

• 45:03Rayna Greenberg?

  And they have edited them out. Well, and then there's like, there was a Summer House thing that came out where they had said they edited that one guy out of that one scene.

• 45:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Emerald.

• 45:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Emerald. And then people were speculating, because they just didn't want to pay him that episode. Like, he only had one scene at dinner. And like, he was there and they edited him out. That was like some tea. But anyway, I just, I just find that stuff really interesting, fascinating. So, at least one person is being held accountable, and that's Dakota, as he should be.

• 45:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so we are just gonna take a quick break. While we're talking about pop culture and TV shows, we have a TV show we think you guys are going to like. This is The Testaments on Hulu. So it is from the executive producers of The Handmaid's Tale. A new dawn rises in Gilead. So The Testaments is a new Hulu original series based on the novel by Margaret Atwood. Golden Globe nominee Chase Infinity plays the dutiful teen Agnes who guides newcomer Daisy through the halls of Aunt Lydia's elite preparatory school for future wives where obedience is instilled brutally. With no connection to the outside world, the daughters of Gilead's commanders start to challenge authority, seek independence, and explore their identity. This is just the beginning of their reckoning. The series explores friendship, empowerment, and resilience, and what coming of age means

• 46:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  for young women in a society that affords them no rights. Agnes and Daisy's bond becomes the catalyst that will open their past, present, and future. Raised to obey but destined to defy, there's nothing more powerful than a teenage girl. So The Testaments is out now. You guys can watch The Testaments now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+ for bundle subscribers. Terms apply.

• 46:32Rayna Greenberg?

  So I'm excited to tell you guys about Vivral, because this is a members-only club where you can borrow designer bags, jewelry, watches, and even diamonds. And I feel like we talk a lot on this show about like how fast trends will change and pop up and how much money we're all spending to just like have all these new things in our closets. And with Vivral, you're borrowing all of these pieces, and they're really high-quality brands and designers. So I'm talking like Prada, Fendi, Saint Laurent, Dior. And you sign up, the classic tier is $139 a month. It's by far the most popular tier. And it's an unbelievable value because you get to borrow these things essentially, and there's no return date. So also, if you get something and you love it, you can buy it for less than anywhere else. But I think that there is so much mass consumerism out there and this need to like keep up with

• 47:17Rayna Greenberg?

  the Joneses and look how everybody else looks. And this is a perfect way to do that without really overspending and breaking the bank. And really, you can look great for any season. If you want to take a vacation, like I actually just went to Singapore, and like if you're just like, I want to look a certain way for this vacation, but I don't want to overcommit to spending all this money, this is the perfect thing to do. And they gave us this amazing offer. The end of the month, so if you've been curious or waiting for a sign, use our referral code GGE to get your first month of membership completely free. This is the time to join. Go to vivrelle.com and apply for a membership today using the referral code GGE for your first month of membership free. The code will also allow you to skip the Vivrell waitlist and that is going to be V I V R E L L E dot com. Use code GGE for your first month free.

• 48:02Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 48:19Rayna Greenberg?

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• 48:20Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 49:03Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 49:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  From his DUI was released like Raina, the way everyone sent me this. So last week I was like, when are we going to get the body cam footage? Someone, I love our listeners so much, sent me a picture in my DMs of Paul Revere, like the British are coming, like on a horse. And she was like, the body cam footage has been released. Like, everyone was sending me the memes. There's these ET memes. The pictures are insane. He's like screaming in the backseat. He's not, okay. I was like, he looks all sweaty. Raina, I got so confused. I thought we were seeing photos from the crash. I thought he was flipping in the car. I was so confused. Oh, you didn't realize he's in the cop car. But he was in the cop car, cuffed, and he was yawning. And he's yawning. It looks like a roller coaster pic. It looks like when they take a picture of you like screaming on a roller coaster.

• 50:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  KFC posted, I said, not the roller coaster pic. I thought he was yelling. I thought he was yelling, get the president on the line for me. Okay, so yes, then he calls Donald Trump.

• 50:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  If I'm doing piece of shit stuff, I guess I'll call the biggest piece of shit there is to get me out of it. If I'm the president and a grown ass adult calls me, I got a DUI, I'm sending you to jail right now on my own accord. Not him. He's like, honestly, I wasn't doing anything besides bombing another country. I got time. Do not call me. Exactly. He's like, oh, sorry, let me set this Truth Social tweet aside for the second, where I threaten a whole country and circle back to your DUI. Like, if you're my kid, fine, but a grown adult, let me call the president to get me out of this DUI. I can't. I mean, he's just this like, it doesn't, I hate that it doesn't surprise me. Of course. Not, nothing about this surprises me. But the memes are fire. There's one of him kneeling. The kneeling meme has gone crazy.

• 51:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then the ET meme, like, there's just so many. And again, he looks so fucked up. Like, I don't know why I'm surprised. You're surprised because this is, by the way, one of the most, I would say, top five most famous athletes that has ever lived. True. Like, it's like him, Tom Brady, and LeBron. Like, I don't, who's more famous than these people? Oh, my God, if LeBron got a DUI, Raina, I'd never recover. I'd be like, my king. And Shaq. But now there's something in common. And Shaq, you're, actually, you might be Shaq this week. I'm like, guys, stay tuned. This girl, I was on the street corner yesterday. It was like, I have a bet with Shaq. I was like,

• 52:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Stay tuned.

• 52:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Raina voice notes me and she's like, I have a surprise, I have a present for you, I have a surprise for you. And she's like, met this girl, she's like, she has an event with Shaq. And the way you said it, I heard Shep. And I said, I don't care. You don't know me at all. Like, we've met him multiple times. Like, why, what do you, I literally, it took me a minute until you said something else that made me realize it was Shaq. Cause I heard Shep.

• 52:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I have a lisp.

• 52:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  It wasn't even that. They're so s. That doesn't even track.

• 52:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Sometimes I actually don't think I have a lisp anymore now that I have the chin implant. I feel like sometimes my mouth sounds like there's rocks in it. So I think that's what you were hearing, but like, that is so funny, because I was like, I have a gift for you. And you probably were like, Shep.

• 52:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then I was like, Shaq, oh my god. Okay, so anyway, that was released and thank you guys for knowing, knowing what I like and sending it to me a million times.

• 52:45Rayna Greenberg?

  So as of this week, a judge tossed 10 of Blake Lively's claims against Justin Baldoni. I think there's 13 total, so 10 were tossed out. We still will get a trial and she said, I'm still, I'm still happy to go to trial about these three main parts of my case. But the main sexual harassment.

• 53:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so they dropped the sexual harassment stuff. What's left on the table is the smear campaign stuff, right?

• 53:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, and she basically says, I'm glad to be able to be a voice for people that I know this happened to and people that I don't know this has happened to. But like, there is real hard evidence that this campaign was launched to make me look bad, to make my businesses look bad, to take work away from me, to make sure I couldn't be employable anymore.

• 53:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she posted on Instagram. Did you read her whole statement?

• 53:28Rayna Greenberg?

  It was long.

• 53:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was long. I just, I need a TLDR. I don't care. I thought I cared, but I don't anymore.

• 53:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Claude, give me the TLDR.

• 53:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Claude, okay, girl.

• 53:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, we made a, we made a pact to stop.

• 53:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  So that's the latest on Blake and Justin. So we'll still see what shakes out. I mean, he did try to ruin her career, right? That goes, like, that will.

• 53:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like that's indisputable. I think, I think he, his defense will be like, she deserved it and they did, they tried to ruin mine.

• 53:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 53:56Rayna Greenberg?

  And her and her husband bullied me and they brought all these claims that are not true. And Ashley and I just think they both have acted terrible. We don't know. We'll see how this shakes out.

• 54:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 54:04Rayna Greenberg?

  But we will get a trial.

• 54:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Okay, and Kim Kardashian and Lewis Hamilton make their relationship Instagram official with high. Speed Ferrari drive. So I think my husband like came over this video and not over Kim, over the car.

• 54:18Rayna Greenberg?

  He broke the news to us.

• 54:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  He sent it to us, yes. And Shashank is on top of pop culture, surprisingly, but he sent this to us. And I thought it was about the car. And then at the end, you see Kim and she sounds like, that's insane. Just like such a hot take. Like, obviously this Ferrari is fucking insane. You're the most famous F1 driver in his Ferrari. That's insane. Like, okay, Kim. But I guess they're together and, you know, it's not surprising to me at all. And they're both short and powerful and famous. And I see this for them.

• 54:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Short people, short people fight each other. This is surprising. They're both little people and.

• 54:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  She, well, Kanye is small. Like, she, she only works out with small people.

• 54:59Rayna Greenberg?

  She ended that marriage with Chris Humphries in like a week. She was like, you're too tall. I can't do this. 100%.

• 55:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  She loves a short king.

• 55:06Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that this is the sexiest hard launch I've ever seen. What is a hotter way? I think I hard launched my relationship like in front of a Ferris wheel or some shit.

• 55:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was it? What Ferris wheel? Were we?

• 55:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Were we on a boat? No, I think maybe I hard launched on that boat for your birthday. Regardless, it wasn't in my F1 driver's Ferrari.

• 55:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I said, Shashank, you didn't even hard launch me in your M3. Like, because his car means the world to him and I just.

• 55:33Rayna Greenberg?

  He hard launched you on a balcony in Malibu. Is that what it is? Is that where that photo is? On his birthday on that balcony in Malibu?

• 55:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  He doesn't post a lot.

• 55:40Rayna Greenberg?

  That first photo of you.

• 55:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  The first time he ever posted me, it was a picture from New York. And I think it was like later in the summer. You know, the first Bella sent it to me before I even saw it myself.

• 55:50Rayna Greenberg?

  What was the photo?

• 55:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I thought it was that orange dress. No, that was his birthday, though.

• 55:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, the lane in the grass.

• 55:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, the lane in the grass thing. But I hard, I soft launched him and then I heard, whatever. Regardless, it's hot. The Ferrari's hot. Hot take. Ferraris are hot. Good for you, Kim, I guess.

• 56:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Lastly, I mean, so much is happening in the world that's so unbelievably disgusting. I mean, we really have the 25th amendment on the table, like Trump is unhinged. I don't even underst- it's like, whatever, you guys can, you know, do your research and see what's happening in the world. But I just wanted to address that he did fire Pam Bondi. A lot of people sent that to me. I love to talk about Pam Bondi. And he fired her and the women are getting fired and the men not quite yet. And I just love this quote, that women who carry water for the patriarchy always drown first. And there's this weird correlation between that and Amanda Petula.

• 56:39Rayna Greenberg?

  No, of course it is.

• 56:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  When you center men and you choose men and you stab women in the back, you pay the price. So let that be a lesson.

• 56:51Rayna Greenberg?

  She's a traitor against her own kind.

• 56:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly. That's what it is. Like, when it comes to the government, like, yes, we expect that from white men, from Pete Hegseth and there's Cash Patel, who's a white man. I mean, whatever these guys do. Yeah, but what these women, like, they feel worse to us as women and they fall first and never do this. Like, I mean, it's a lesson. I always said Pam Bondi will be the first one to rot in prison. And she sold her soul to this man that was never going to save her.

• 57:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, her and Kristi Noem both, I mean, when they ceased to be valuable to these men, they were the first to go.

• 57:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Of course they were.

• 57:28Rayna Greenberg?

  So, anyway. Well, let's wrap with something positive and wonderful, Ashley special.

• 57:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, the Dow's at 50K.

• 57:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Once the trailer dropping, tomorrow?

• 57:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, the trailer will drop a little closer, too.

• 57:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, okay.

• 57:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I'll get you on my schedule. We'll loop in Alana and you'll get on the press schedule.

• 57:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 57:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, but my Instagram is Ash Hess and I'll probably post on TikTok, that's Ash Hess as well, and I'll be posting stuff there and just save the date for April 30th.

• 57:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that's a great way to sign off.

• 57:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so girlsgottaeat.com, get tickets to our show, May 7th with the Chippendales in LA.

• 58:04Rayna Greenberg?

  It's so hot, you guys.

• 58:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Girls Gotta Eat Chippendales collab, you will not find a hotter, more hilarious show out there. So that is May 7th at the Palace Theater for the Netflix Is A Joke Festival. GirlsGottaEat.com for those tickets. GirlsGottaEatPodcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess, like I mentioned. Rayna Greenberg on Instagram. And check RainaGreenberg.com for her tour tickets, if there are any left, who's to say. Subscribe on YouTube, watch on YouTube, watch on Spotify. Share this episode with a friend and stay safe out there, you guys. We'll see you Monday.

• 58:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good weekend.

• 58:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.

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