Pod Insights The MeatEater Podcast Ep. 684: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLVIII About this episode https://www.instagram.com/spencerneuharth/?hl=enJanis Putelis https://www.themeateater.com/people/janis-putelis guest hosts MeatEater Trivia with Spencer Neuharth https://www.instagram.com/spencerneuharth/?hl=en, Randall Williams https://www.themeateater.com/people/randall-williams, Ryan Callaghan https://www.instagram.com/olcal406/, Brody Henderson, Reva Hansen, Roman Schnobrich, and Eric Hamburg.
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3:00 Speaker 03 Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Yanis Patellas. The damn script says Spencer Neuharth.
3:09 Speaker 04 I noticed that too.
3:11 Speaker 03 We're not gonna start again. I'm still Yanis Patellas, and today, we're joined by Spencer, Randall, Brody, Cal, Roman, Riva, and Eric Hamburg. Eric, this is your first time on the show. Tell folks what you do here at Meat Eater.
3:26 Speaker 05 I work at the Meat Eater store in downtown, and I go to college at Montana State.
3:31 Speaker 03 You grow a lot of hair, too, it looks like.
3:33 Speaker 05 That's what I'm known for. Yep.
3:35 Speaker 06 I was wondering if it was one of those hats?
3:40 Speaker 05 Wondering where you can find one? Yeah, the first time, the first time Steve met me, he referred to me as the kid that needed a haircut.
3:49 Speaker 04 That's devastating.
3:50 Speaker 03 Are you old enough to be dating?
3:53 Speaker 05 Yes.
3:56 Speaker 03 Do you feel like the hair helps you in the, in dating world, or, or the other direction?
4:03 Speaker 05 I've had the same girlfriend for almost two years, and she has curly hair, too. So I'd say it helps.
4:09 Speaker 04 What age do you think you need to be to start dating?
4:11 Speaker 03 Oh, I don't know. Somewhere in early to mid high school, I guess.
4:18 Speaker 04 So college.
4:19 Speaker 03 So college.
4:20 Speaker 05 He was already telling me the other day to keep my boy away from his daughter and they're like super young.
4:27 Speaker 03 Oh, wow. Yeah, my, my girls like to talk about boys. I don't know if your boys like to talk about girls.
4:33 Speaker 05 No, no, no.
4:34 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, yeah. All right.
4:35 Speaker 04 Eric said they listened to, uh, they put all the tributes on the TV at the store and he said it's, uh, usually a pretty poor performance, though. Who's the best at the store?
4:45 Speaker 05 I'd say Cade. We had high hopes for Cade and he got four. Yeah, he got four, but.
4:51 Speaker 03 Strong start.
4:52 Speaker 05 We'll see, we'll see.
4:53 Speaker 03 Made a strong start. Now, how, how do you usually do? What are your, what's your gut say you're gonna do today?
4:58 Speaker 05 I get a lot of random questions, right? Like the ones that people in the store don't get right, I usually get right, but we'll see. I'm known as the slow one in the store, but.
5:10 Speaker 04 The hairy one and the slow one.
5:12 Speaker 03 A promising. I like a humble fella. A promising resume. This is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meat Eater's four verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. And there's a prize. Meat Eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing.
5:35 Speaker 03 Now on to stats. For the stat of the week, we're looking at scores from previous times I hosted. The first two times, the average player's score was 3.3. It was hard questions. The average winning score was six. The last time I hosted, the average player's score was 4.4 and the winning score was nine.
5:56 Speaker 04 What do you think the winning score will be today? You said there's no Jennifer index.
6:00 Speaker 03 No, but man, I really felt like I was, I was trying to, I almost went 100% uh, multiple choice.
6:08 Speaker 04 Oh.
6:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, to really make it just nothing but softballs. You always have one out of four chance, you know? You wanted the smartest. Class in the school.
6:16 Speaker 05 I don't know, man, the so I don't know if the multiple choice is like an automatic softball unless you wrote them that way.
6:21 Speaker 03 Well, it makes you feel good, though, when you're playing, you're like, I got one out of four.
6:25 Speaker 05 Right.
6:25 Speaker 03 No one has to show a blank board.
6:27 Speaker 05 Like, I feel like Spencer used to write the multiple choice question as a softball, but I don't think that's the case anymore.
6:34 Speaker 04 That's it's usually the last question to come in a script. And so if I need a harder question in there, then it's harder. And if it's an easy round, or excuse me, if it's a hard round, then I'll make it easier. So.
6:45 Speaker 03 Oh, I wrote this whole thing between the hours of like midnight and nine today. So I don't have all the, I'm kidding. I I I still didn't write it quite as detailed as Spencer would have. All right, on to I F A Q, which stands for Infrequently Asked Questions Segment. Or, as I refer to it, the Spencer wants to talk about a subject but is unsure if the crew will think it's cool segment. If you have a trivia related question for our crew, send it to trivia at the meat eater dot com with the subject line I F A Q.
7:23 Speaker 03 In caps, I F A Q. But don't get your hopes up because unless Spencer also is interested in your question, we're probably not going to air it.
7:31 Speaker 04 Well, one a week, one a week. So.
7:33 Speaker 03 This question comes from Bob Burns, probably a name Spencer made up. On episode 653, you have a question about military land. I'm active duty at Fort Stewart and was wondering if anyone at Meat Eater has ever hunted military land. I do often, but was wondering about your take on it.
7:55 Speaker 05 I have not. No, you have, though, haven't you?
7:57 Speaker 03 No.
7:58 Speaker 05 Oh.
7:59 Speaker 04 I never have.
8:00 Speaker 03 I never have. No.
8:03 Speaker 04 No one in here has.
8:04 Speaker 03 I have a friend that does a bunch. He's actually, he's also stationed at a, at a, I don't know if it's called a base or a fort or whatever, but because he knows about the system, he's always like, oh, yeah, I was in Texas hunting this military place installation. And then we went on a trip in California and hunted this. Sounds like there's good opportunities, but no one? Randall, you've never done it either? Never. I'm, I mean, I'm familiar with some of the opportunities.
8:29 Speaker 06 But I've never done it myself.
8:32 Speaker 04 What one of the things I'd say as someone who's never hunted it is that there's like a few more hoops to jump through, which eliminates some folks from like going through that process similar to in Montana, you have private land that becomes public access through the BMA program and there's two types and one type requires more legwork than the other one. And that one tends to keep more people out and I'm sure military ground is the same way. Just be my guess.
8:55 Speaker 03 Mm hmm.
8:58 Speaker 03 Anybody else got anything to say about that?
9:00 Speaker 06 Cal, you're a well traveled fellow.
9:05 Speaker 06 I have. Well versed in all kinds of public lands. People who have hunted Montana have hunted on military land. It just isn't a full functioning base anymore.
9:17 Speaker 03 Hmm.
9:18 Speaker 06 Um.
9:19 Speaker 03 I heard about one recently in Montana, but I'm not going to mention it for fear of blowing up a spot.
9:24 Speaker 06 Yeah, I wouldn't do that either.
9:27 Speaker 06 Yeah, no, there there's we got quite a ways down the permissions rabbit hole to hunt on the military installation in Guam. Last year.
9:45 Speaker 03 Wow.
9:45 Speaker 06 Yeah.
9:45 Speaker 03 And you did it there?
9:46 Speaker 06 So we were gonna hunt pigs and what do they have there? A fallow deer? No, what's the? Yeah, maybe it is a fallow deer. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Real easy to do with archery equipment. You definitely got to jump through some more hoops and and then, you know, so like IBEX, did Steve do on base? He did. He did off base or or X. Yeah, he was off. One thing that you have to do is is you have to take an ordinance test. So you can be like, oh, that's ordinance on the ground. I need to tell people where it is and avoid it. It's a little little test.
10:29 Speaker 03 Ooh, that's spooky.
10:31 Steven Rinella? Yeah, little bit of a hoop.
10:33 Speaker 03 Don't walk around in the dark.
10:36 Speaker 03 Oh, look, another IFAQ. This one sent in from Albert Gallatin.
10:41 Speaker 06 Huh.
10:42 Steven Rinella? Secretary of the Treasury?
10:43 Speaker 03 Wow.
10:46 Speaker 03 I don't know, it's almost like someone just made this up. Al asks, are you guys going to have any new cooking content soon? I haven't seen a good cooking show since Pardon My Plate.
10:55 Speaker 06 Oh, well, that one was okay.
10:59 Speaker 03 Thanks, Bill.
11:01 Speaker 03 Uh, just so happens, Al, that, yeah, we just released, uh, the first episode of a new show called Meat Eater Roast. Where we, uh, have a couple of our own, very own, everyday, uh, wild game culinary, uh, enthusiasts.
11:17 Speaker 04 I heard you insult Brody with that term.
11:20 Speaker 03 Well, no, I changed it to, he now is approving if you see him nodding. I was calling them ordinary.
11:26 Speaker 04 Ordinary.
11:26 Speaker 03 Ordinary cooks in the kitchen. But, uh, they compete against each other. They have a unknown, uh, chunk of wild game to cook in a, uh, short amount of time. And then we have a couple of judges who, uh, sort of roast them, help them along. The first episode just aired was, uh, Cal V. Brody, and we had Jesse Griffiths and, uh, Rinella judging. And, uh, so far it's been, uh, feedback's been great on it, so.
11:51 Speaker 04 What day of the week these drop?
11:52 Speaker 03 No idea.
11:55 Steven Rinella? Thursday.
11:55 Speaker 03 You are the host of this show, correct?
11:57 Speaker 06 Spencer, just get on YouTube.
11:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, the first one dropped, but now I've heard that there aren't, are, the forthcoming ones are being pushed a little ways until we figure out some sponsorship, maybe, about who, who wants to attach their name to this fine show.
12:14 Steven Rinella? No one's gonna wanna sponsor my episode.
12:17 Speaker 03 Oh, no, it's gonna be the hottest one. Are you kidding me?
12:20 Speaker 06 I heard from several people in the room that
12:24 Speaker 06 having nothing, nobody mentioned the cooking at all, but they, they all mentioned the fun.
12:30 Speaker 04 Oh, me and Randall's episode, we, we set a beer drinking record, uh, that episode from Meat Eater Roast.
12:36 Steven Rinella? I don't think we should brag about that, cuz.
12:38 Speaker 02 It really wasn't that many beers.
12:42 Speaker 04 We can break that record next time we're on there again.
12:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
12:45 Speaker 03 Oh goodness. So yeah, go to our YouTube channel and check out Meat Eater Roasts.
12:50 Speaker 04 First episode had Cal V. Brody.
12:52 Speaker 03 That's right. We'll have more coming soon. All right, for today's housekeeping, I'm going to throw it to Spencer for the announcement he teased last week.
13:02 Speaker 04 Spencer. We have a new game on our website. If you're familiar with our website, you might know that we have crossword puzzles that come out every Wednesday. And they are crossword puzzles from the Meat Eater Universe that cover topics like hunting, fishing, the outdoors, national parks, conservation, wild game, things like that. And you compete against Randall in those crossword puzzles. We have a new game. It's gonna come out every single Monday. It's called Meat Eater Turtle. It's a lot like Wordle, but it's better. Meat Eater Turtle has a five-letter word that you get six tries to solve. It will give you help along the way. If your letter is yellow, that means you have the right letter in the wrong spot. If it's green, you have the right letter in the right spot. If it's gray, then that letter is not in the word at all.
13:47 Speaker 04 And this is a way to give another game to people who share our dictionary as outdoorsmen. So, comes out every single Monday. Yanis is the person that you're going to be competing against in Meat Eater Turtle. But for the first one, which comes out April 7th, the whole crew is going to play that one. We're gonna reveal their scores on an upcoming episode of Meat Eater Radio. And you'll see if you can beat them. That first category is an animal. It's a five-letter word. That's an animal. Go play it on themeat eater dot com slash games.
14:21 Speaker 03 Did you see the fly I found?
14:24 Speaker 04 Cal sent a screenshot that it didn't accept Oscar. It doesn't like proper nouns, but I would argue with the game. On your behalf, Cal, that Oscar is also a fish.
14:34 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:35 Speaker 04 So it should have taken that.
14:36 Speaker 03 Plus, it's like a very relevant fish, because it's invasive in a lot of areas.
14:41 Speaker 02 Great aquarium fish.
14:42 Speaker 03 Spearfish, well, that's the problem.
14:44 Speaker 02 It's a great aquarium fish.
14:45 Speaker 03 It used to be a great aquarium fish, and then people let it go.
14:48 Speaker 04 So, that's, that's one help, uh, that'll, there'll be one hint for you, playing Meat Eater Turtle.
14:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, don't, don't use.
14:53 Speaker 04 Don't put in their Oscar.
14:54 Speaker 03 Oscar.
14:55 Speaker 04 And don't put in other proper nouns.
14:56 Speaker 03 And don't, when you're done with your Oscars, don't just chuck them out into the wild. Where, uh, you've been testing the game on others besides me. Where have I been stacking up?
15:05 Speaker 04 We're gonna reveal that on an upcoming episode of Meat Eater Radio. Uh, the whole, the whole crew. We're gonna have 10 scores revealed, how everybody did.
15:14 Speaker 03 See now, the fact that it's within our universe hasn't really been helping me. I still play it like I would play Wordle.
15:22 Speaker 04 Okay. That could be one strategy.
15:24 Speaker 06 Oh, I, I, I, I beg to differ.
15:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, it might be different for you.
15:29 Speaker 06 When you have a category that's animals and you have five letters, you think of as many five-letter animals as you can.
15:36 Speaker 03 Well, I guess it depends. Is it, is it rating you on speed or tries?
15:41 Speaker 04 Speed and tries.
15:42 Speaker 03 Speed and tries.
15:43 Speaker 04 Both things.
15:43 Speaker 06 Randall's trying, do you think those markers are free, young man? Uh, this one's getting worn out. Why don't you just use all of it right now, messing with your name?
15:52 Speaker 03 He likes the smell of them, Cal.
15:54 Speaker 06 Show everybody what you're doing. I've paid the bills around this place, Cal.
15:58 Speaker 04 So, one more time, go to themeat eater dot com slash games. Uh, you'll have Turtle on Mondays, Crosswords on Wednesdays.
16:05 Speaker 06 Thanks for all the fun you bring into our lives, Spencer.
16:07 Speaker 04 Thank you, Randall.
16:09 Speaker 03 We're on to question one.
16:11 Speaker 04 Oh, you gotta tell, tell them to play the drop.
16:13 Speaker 03 Oh, play the drop, Bill. He said he was ready.
16:17 Speaker 06 Yeah, I, I lied to you. Hold on a second, here we go. We can't have it without this.
16:40 Speaker 03 Question one blends hunting and conservation. According to the Boone and Crockett Club, what is the average inside spread of a typical Boone and Crockett mule deer buck? Is it 21, 22, 23, or 24 inches? Now, I rounded this up to the nearest whole number, because the answer actually has a, a fraction next to it.
17:12 Speaker 04 Hmm.
17:15 Speaker 03 I don't think that's gonna help you guys, but I just wanted to be clear on that.
17:21 Speaker 03 Again, the question is, according to the Boone and Crockett Club, what is the average inside spread of a typical Boone and Crockett mule deer buck? Is it 21, 22, 23, or 24 inches?
17:36 Speaker 04 Brody, have you ever killed a Boone or mule?
17:38 Speaker 06 One.
17:39 Speaker 03 No shit.
17:40 Speaker 04 Do you know its spread?
17:41 Speaker 06 Which one? That one from a long time ago in Colorado, that real heavy one. It's a minimum, you know.
17:48 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:49 Speaker 06 The minimum.
17:49 Speaker 04 Do you know its spread?
17:51 Speaker 06 Not, it didn't make, it's not very wide.
17:54 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
17:55 Speaker 06 It's like, huge mass, long tines.
17:59 Speaker 04 Hmm, Cal's got a Boone or-
18:00 Speaker 06 I'd like the record to show that, uh, when Brody did his hand mass measurement, it was like larger than a Stanley thermostat. I'll bring it in and show you. It's like baseball bats, man. That's what got it over the edge. Sorry, Louisville slugger diameter.
18:14 Speaker 03 Hmm. You killed one with your dad about that same time period?
18:18 Speaker 06 No, my dad killed one.
18:19 Speaker 03 No, that's what I mean. Sorry. Like you were with your dad when he killed one.
18:23 Speaker 06 A giant.
18:24 Speaker 03 That was about that, was probably a minimum two, right?
18:27 Speaker 06 No, that one, that one my dad killed was over 200.
18:30 Speaker 04 Whoa.
18:33 Speaker 03 That was a-
18:34 Speaker 06 Yeah, I was mad.
18:40 Speaker 04 That's good. I'd like to hear about that buck after this show.
18:43 Speaker 06 Oh, sure.
18:43 Speaker 03 Um, does everybody have an answer?
18:46 Speaker 06 Yep.
18:47 Speaker 03 Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. Roman going 22 inches, Cal 22. 22. Eric 23, Randall 23, Spencer 24, Riva 22, Brody 22. We do have one correct answer, 24. To be exact, it is 23, 7, 8.
19:09 Speaker 04 Ooh.
19:10 Speaker 03 So Spencer is the only correct answer, 24. I spoke with Jennifer Staten of Boone and Crockett and asked her what the average width was. She took data from 21 states to find this number. Interestingly, the average inside spread of a non-typical from the, out of the same data set was 23, 4 eighths. That's three eighths shorter than the typical.
19:34 Speaker 04 There are 21 states that have Boone and Crockett mule deer entries?
19:38 Speaker 03 Correctamundo.
19:40 Speaker 06 There are. Yeah. I find that still to this day. People measure the outside spread of a mule deer.
19:51 Speaker 03 Listen, Buck, when I first started scoring anything, I was measuring inside and outside and applying both those numbers.
20:00 Speaker 03 Yeah, like a buck has a six inch tongue going.
20:03 Speaker 04 You probably had a line of people standing outside your house getting you to measure shit. I, I went with 24 because we went with to the, uh, the antler king collection and three forks. What, what was his? Was it the antler king or was it something else?
20:16 Speaker 06 Boy.
20:17 Speaker 04 I, I don't remember, but he's got like one of the world's biggest collection of antlers in that whole dang shed. I think he said he had two mulies that went Boone and Crockett and there were some giant mulies in there.
20:28 Speaker 06 Jim, Jim's horn house.
20:30 Speaker 04 There you go.
20:31 Speaker 06 I think Jim has since passed.
20:32 Speaker 03 I found, uh, a mule deer buck alive. Uh, rutna doe this year that had split his skull plate. And so his. He has a nice wide rack.
20:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, literally, literally his one antler was hanging down below his ear. And, uh, I was like. I should shoot that thing because the inside spread on that thing is probably 30 inches.
20:53 Speaker 04 That'd be good.
20:54 Speaker 03 Yeah. Right, but when you, uh, score them, the inside spread can't exceed the length of the longest main beam. And I think it wouldn't count if his was broken, the skull plate.
21:06 Speaker 06 I think it has to.
21:08 Speaker 04 I think that'd be hard to argue. I don't know.
21:11 Speaker 03 It would depend on if it's still broken or if it's been fused. I watched him. It wasn't flopping. So. Hmm. Yep. Man, a lot to unpack with that story. All right.
21:23 Speaker 03 We're on to question two. This one also falls into hunting. Which camouflage first appeared on First Light's hunting clothing?
21:35 Speaker 04 Do you know this, Cal?
21:36 Speaker 03 I'm damn sure better.
21:40 Speaker 03 Which camouflage first appeared on First Light's clothing? So what I'm looking for is like what camouflage pattern? Was the first one? The first lie ever used?
21:55 Speaker 05 Remember it.
21:58 Speaker 03 Riva, what's so funny about that question?
22:01 Speaker 00 This is something that I should at least have some answer for.
22:05 Speaker 03 Hmm. No, you you really shouldn't.
22:10 Speaker 03 I mean. No, you know, some. But this is far before your time. Are you saying you can't name a single camouflage pattern? Is that what you're saying?
22:21 Speaker 00 Well, I just thought of one.
22:22 Speaker 03 OK, great.
22:23 Speaker 00 So I wrote it down now.
22:26 Speaker 03 I think that was the the hang up, no.
22:28 Speaker 04 So do you have this one right, Cal?
22:30 Speaker 05 I I know exactly what's right.
22:32 Speaker 04 Oh, OK.
22:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, I was gonna say, this is sort of a.
22:35 Speaker 04 This is a bone for Cal.
22:36 Speaker 03 This is a bone for the. Oh, geez. The first employee of First Light. Mm hmm. I didn't know that he was gonna. Well, and I guess it was in in the script here. I did know that Cal was gonna be here, but.
22:47 Speaker 04 I still have an old pair of bibs in this stuff, and I can still can't remember what it's called.
22:53 Speaker 05 Like, this is interesting timing as camo's coming back in the fashion world. I'm seeing this. Pattern, the one I've written down.
22:59 Speaker 03 Hold on, it's it's just coming back now. Where have you been, Roman?
23:04 Speaker 04 This one's very fashionable, too.
23:07 Speaker 03 Brody, do you have something written down?
23:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:08 Speaker 03 Oh, OK. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers.
23:12 Speaker 04 Oh, I got it right.
23:13 Speaker 03 Roman. Cal, say ASAP. Eric, Mossy Oak. Randall, ASAP. Spencer, Bottomlands, which is the Mossy Oak pattern. Riva, Cash, which is a First Light pattern. Brody, ASAP. The correct answer is ASAP. ASAP, which stands for All Season, All Terrain, was First Light's first camouflage pattern. I texted with Kitten Carruth, one of First Light's founders, to make sure I had this right. I asked him, why ASAP? He replied, well, we liked ASAP and Predator the best, and ASAP called us back first.
23:52 Speaker 03 That's how it happens when you're a young company.
23:54 Speaker 04 Is ASAP the one that just looks like branches? Kind of? It's just like.
23:58 Speaker 03 It's almost like a, yeah, some people would say almost. It's like three colors. A bad tribal tattoo.
24:06 Speaker 03 That was often described.
24:07 Speaker 04 Sure.
24:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, like if you're just gonna go hide in a, um, cattail marsh. In the summer of 2011.
24:15 Speaker 06 I placed an order for a bunch of first light product in Realtree, I believe.
24:21 Speaker 03 Mm hmm.
24:22 Speaker 06 And I got a call saying, hey, all that stuff is out of stock. But what you're gonna want is this ASAP stuff.
24:31 Speaker 03 Was Cal on the other end of the line?
24:33 Speaker 06 And he said, he said, oh, I see her in Missoula. I used to live in Missoula. I said, oh, cool. And then years later, I remembered that was Cal.
24:42 Speaker 04 At a hot dog stand.
24:43 Speaker 06 No, no, we met, we introduced ourselves the first time at a hot dog stand.
24:46 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
24:47 Speaker 03 I'm personally a big fan of ASAP, and I think that the pattern suffered from simply not being hip enough to the human eye. Where a lot of other patterns that do not break you up as well as ASAP does, don't work and is the variety of terrains ASAP does, have sold way more items of clothing, whatever that's been put on, because we as humans just like it better.
25:13 Speaker 06 You used to say fashion over function.
25:19 Speaker 03 I'm a function guy. I would use it if it was still available.
25:24 Speaker 04 That's like fishing lures that catch fishermen, not fish.
25:27 Speaker 03 That's right.
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28:28 Speaker 03 Okay, on to question number three.
28:32 Speaker 03 A brace of birds is how many?
28:38 Speaker 03 So I'm asking you to tell me how many birds would be in a brace of birds?
28:46 Speaker 04 What's the category?
28:48 Speaker 03 Hunting.
28:52 Speaker 04 Hmm.
28:54 Speaker 03 Interesting. I thought this would be a little bit of a softball.
28:56 Speaker 04 Boy, I thought so too.
28:58 Speaker 03 Brody, Brody had it very quickly. You've never heard the term brace?
29:03 Speaker 04 No.
29:04 Speaker 03 Oh.
29:08 Speaker 04 I've heard it.
29:10 Speaker 03 Reva? Nope.
29:14 Speaker 03 Cal certainly has the upland hunter that he is.
29:17 Speaker 06 Well, yeah, but I didn't know that. Yeah, I don't know what it is.
29:23 Speaker 03 Gosh, this one has actually, I've kicked it down the, I have a little notes thing in my phone with all my trivia questions. And when they come to me, I pop them in there. And I've kicked this one down before because I thought, ah, everybody's gonna know this one. So I'm glad I pulled it out.
29:38 Speaker 04 I like it.
29:43 Speaker 03 Again, question three, a brace of birds is how many?
29:48 Speaker 04 Unless I have it wrong. Good on you, Yanni, uh, saying the question again. That's good hosting.
29:55 Speaker 03 Okay, thank you.
29:58 Speaker 03 I like feedback from hosting. So listeners out there, you know, in the comments, throw it down. No, Logan Williamson took the time to send me a quick text and say that he thought that last week's Meteor Radio Live was well hosted. I was very appreciative.
30:16 Speaker 04 Now I'm offended. Logan's never texted me that.
30:20 Speaker 03 Well, yeah, but you set the bar, you know, and so it's hard to beat it down.
30:24 Speaker 04 Thank you, Yanni.
30:28 Speaker 03 I just had a shiny moment, you know.
30:30 Speaker 04 Good.
30:31 Speaker 03 Clapping. Roman?
30:32 Speaker 06 I was gonna say, we get a decent amount of emails talking about hosts, but I don't know if I should share that feedback.
30:39 Speaker 03 All right, does everybody have an answer? Those of you that are gonna have one, go ahead and reveal them, please. Roman, eighteen, Cal, three, Eric, four, Randall, three, Spencer, two, Reva, twenty, Brody, two. We do have two correct answers. The answer is two.
30:56 Speaker 06 That's what I had written down first, but that doesn't make any sense.
30:59 Speaker 03 Now, I couldn't really find any interesting flavor text about a brace of birds. Although the term is commonly used in conjunction with the process of hanging birds, specifically pheasants. And what I found too, that is that often a brace is not only a pair, but that it would be one female and one male. Hmm, which really wouldn't happen um in our country much with pheasants. I guess if you were maybe on a game farm, you can shoot them there. Um but Hank Shaw wrote a great article on hanging birds on his website. Uh hunt, gather, cook. His takeaway? Hanging works. You're gonna get awesome meats, uh awesome skin. You just gotta do it right. Three to seven days at fifty to fifty-five degrees. Guts in or out?
31:44 Speaker 03 Guts in.
31:45 Speaker 04 Is this exclusive to Upland or would you be like a brace of mallards came into the decoys?
31:50 Speaker 03 Uh you can use it for waterfowl.
31:52 Speaker 04 Okay, how about turkeys? Like a brace of, brace of toms walked by.
31:56 Speaker 03 I mean, I don't see what, basically the definition was uh any uh a bra- any bird that was shot for uh like sport or uh food. Where I've heard it often is like, I brought home a brace of birds.
32:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, brace of pheasants.
32:12 Speaker 03 There you go. I don't like the guts in. Neither do I, not with shotgun pellets, busted up guts. That's the problem is as that. As things start to break down, which the whole point of of hanging is, you know, like letting that um carcass start to degrade. If you have a little pathway created by a pellet that goes from a, you know, the good thigh meat or from the the breast meat into the body cavity. The pressure of that bird breaking down even at fifty degrees is gonna get that stomach juice up into that meat and render it inedible. I agree.
32:57 Speaker 03 I pull the guts out. There you go. Appreciate the input, Cal. Pull, he's, Cal says pull the guts out. Alright, on to question four. This one is also in the hunting category.
33:13 Speaker 03 What does the acronym D O P E stand for? When used in shooting? Randall, as I thought, would be quick to write an answer.
33:24 Speaker 04 I think we've had this question before.
33:26 Speaker 03 Ah! I, I really don't think we have, Spencer. Nah, we'll be fine. Check the spreadsheet.
33:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:33 Speaker 03 We're still having fun, right?
33:35 Speaker 04 That's right.
33:36 Speaker 03 Roman's thinking, Cal's thinking.
33:43 Speaker 07 What does the acronym D O P E, when used in shooting, stand for?
33:47 Speaker 03 Thanks, Randall.
33:49 Speaker 07 I got some real, the first time I hosted-
33:51 Speaker 03 Eric's at least writing.
33:52 Speaker 07 I saw a lot of really nasty comments about how I didn't repeat the questions.
33:56 Speaker 03 Oh.
33:56 Speaker 07 Yeah. They said, "How stupid do you have to be to not read them twice?"
34:02 Speaker 03 I just, I just, uh, Command F'd the spreadsheet, Spencer, and I did not find anything.
34:07 Speaker 04 Okay.
34:07 Speaker 05 I have no idea what this is.
34:09 Speaker 04 Oh. Oh, maybe it's a pure and a crossword. Maybe that's, um-
34:15 Speaker 03 Could be.
34:16 Speaker 04 -why I know I've read it somewhere. Uh, next week Randall is hosting, so if-
34:21 Speaker 07 Yes.
34:22 Speaker 04 You know, give some feedback to him, too.
34:24 Speaker 07 Prime your feedback.
34:25 Speaker 04 That's right.
34:26 Speaker 03 And now, Randall, my flavor text is basically throwing this to you, so you have now a few seconds to prepare as we wait for the rest of these folks to write their answers.
34:35 Speaker 05 So you wrote the question knowing he would get it right and have something to say about it?
34:39 Speaker 03 Heck, yeah. Look how well it worked out.
34:42 Speaker 05 I don't know about that. Spencer, what's, what's your thought on that?
34:46 Speaker 07 Three-dimensional chess he's playing here.
34:48 Speaker 04 I mean, it's better than asking about first light's first camel pattern to the first light's first employee.
34:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:57 Speaker 05 You got one in there like, "What is my second son's middle name?"
35:03 Speaker 03 Not quite. I wouldn't know that one.
35:05 Speaker 05 I know, but you should ask it.
35:09 Speaker 04 Yanni and Randall, gracious enough to host for me, uh, because I have some deadlines coming up. One of them was Meat Eater Turtle, so please, again, uh, go play that. We, we worked hard on this, um-
35:19 Speaker 03 Is it, is it turtle as in the animal or turd-ol?
35:24 Speaker 04 Turtle is in the animal.
35:26 Speaker 03 Chippy turd.
35:27 Speaker 07 So if you like turtle, but you don't like me hosting, just call it even.
35:32 Speaker 04 There you go.
35:34 Speaker 03 All right, does everybody have an answer that is gonna have an answer? Roman shaking his head, no. Go ahead and reveal your answers for the acronym Dope. Roman says degrees of elevation.
35:48 Speaker 03 Cal says develop of projectile eject. Eric, data of precise? Question mark. Randall, data on previous engagements. Spencer, data on previous engagement. Riva, dial optics peep eye. Brody, drop of projectile energy. We do have a couple of correct answers in the room. It is data on previous engagements. Randall, what do you know about dope?
36:19 Speaker 05 Well.
36:20 Speaker 03 Is it based off your previous engagement?
36:22 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, I mean traditionally, so now it's just like a shorthand for any sort of ballistic information. But, you know, if you are a serious shooter, you write down what your bullet is doing at any, in any given conditions, at any given distance. And then you have a record of that. So, kids out there, don't just trust your phone. If you're gonna shoot something at 350 yards, you should have shot a target at 350 yards already. And then you can rely on data from previous engagements rather than just some number on your phone. Is being able to hit a paper plate at 50 yards dope? Nope, nope. Going good enough is not dope.
37:04 Speaker 03 Well, I would say that it is because.
37:06 Speaker 04 It's informing something, it's data.
37:08 Speaker 05 You know that you can hit a paper plate at 50 yards. That was our dope back in the day. Yeah, I mean, I think.
37:14 Speaker 04 The day before the season.
37:15 Speaker 05 I think dope is important because people say dope when they just pull numbers off their phone. But if you've never shot at that distance, you don't actually have real data. It's all hypothetical until lead is in the air, so.
37:30 Speaker 03 And I think you make a really good point about verifying, even in the apps, you have to verify, you can't just go and trust the numbers off the box, or even if you get the velocity. Like anytime we do that, we then take it out to 500 yards and shoot, and rarely is it spot on. You're still gonna make a fine adjustment either to BC or to velocity, whatever it might be, to really dial it in.
37:55 Speaker 05 Yeah, and I like to.
37:58 Speaker 05 Shoot a group at 800 yards and see what it's actually like shooting once at 800 yards. You might be in your zone of comfort, but if you shoot three and this one happens to be top left and the other two are down here. Your actual point of impact for your group is off your target. So shoot a lot, shoot often and pay attention to what you see on the target. Don't just wing it.
38:27 Speaker 03 I used to have that scribbled down on a piece of paper that was stuck on bulletin board. It said like, shoot more, shoot more often.
38:33 Speaker 05 Yeah, you learn a lot.
38:35 Speaker 03 It's good for you. All right. Onto question five. Still stuck in the hunting category.
38:43 Speaker 03 Rate these four states non-resident whitetail deer buck tag prices from most expensive to cheapest. Oklahoma, Ohio, Iowa, and Missouri.
38:58 Speaker 03 Again, it's not really a question.
39:02 Speaker 03 Rate these four states non-resident whitetail deer buck tag.
39:06 Speaker 05 Spencer, have you hunted all four of these?
39:08 Speaker 04 Um, I have hunted zero of those, but I'm, I'm familiar with all four.
39:13 Speaker 05 You haven't hunted Iowa?
39:15 Speaker 04 No, I, I have points. It's on my 2027 docket.
39:20 Speaker 03 Oh, I have points too.
39:22 Speaker 04 When are you going?
39:23 Speaker 03 Maybe we could go together.
39:25 Speaker 04 Nah.
39:26 Speaker 03 Okay.
39:27 Speaker 05 Where are we going?
39:28 Speaker 04 What, how many points do you have?
39:29 Speaker 05 And is it a pricey proposition?
39:33 Speaker 03 I'm at, I'm at four.
39:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, we're, we're in different, we're different categories. You have more than me. Plus I imagine you're going to want to do an archery rod hunt and I'm probably going to want to do like a December gun hunt.
39:43 Speaker 03 Oh, I, I could be persuaded.
39:46 Speaker 04 Okay, let's figure it out after this.
39:49 Speaker 03 Again, the question five is rate these four states non-resident whitetail deer buck tag prices from most expensive to cheapest. Oklahoma, Ohio, Iowa, and Missouri.
40:05 Speaker 03 Does everybody have these four states listed in order from most expensive to cheapest? Whitetail deer buck tag, non-resident prices?
40:19 Speaker 06 I'm trying to like use my data and experience from people that have written in from our meat eater community.
40:25 Speaker 03 What do they write in about complaining about how non-resident prices are out of control?
40:31 Speaker 06 Yeah, I mean, if Montana was on that list, wouldn't be your classic whitetail state, but it would be by far and away the most expensive.
40:38 Speaker 04 For a deer tag?
40:38 Speaker 06 Yeah.
40:42 Speaker 04 Unless you count Wyoming's special draw tag.
40:46 Speaker 06 Yeah. Let's not talk.
40:47 Speaker 04 I even wrote down my guess for the price of the tag.
40:50 Speaker 03 Oh, good.
40:53 Speaker 04 All right. Some of these states have a reputation.
40:55 Speaker 03 Reveal your answers.
40:56 Speaker 06 I have to do this upside down because I wrote it down, didn't want to rewrite it.
40:59 Speaker 03 But it's backwards, too. You expect me?
41:01 Speaker 06 Ohio, Iowa. Uh, what was the other one? Oklahoma and Missouri. So Missouri's the cheapest.
41:08 Speaker 03 Missouri's the cheapest. He's saying Ohio's the most expensive. Roman, much more legibly, wrote out Iowa, Oklahoma, Ohio, Missouri. Randall, Iowa, Missouri, Oklahoma, Ohio. Spencer, Oklahoma, Iowa, Ohio, Missouri. Riva, Iowa, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma. Brody, Iowa, Oklahoma, Missouri, Ohio.
41:33 Speaker 05 What are you doing to my boy here?
41:34 Speaker 03 Oh, did I skip you, Eric?
41:37 Speaker 05 Might be too short.
41:38 Speaker 03 Okay, maybe your board might have been behind your hair. Eric wrote down Iowa, Ohio, Missouri, Oklahoma. I believe, Phil, we have one correct answer.
41:49 Speaker 06 We have one correct answer.
41:50 Speaker 03 It is Oklahoma, Iowa, Ohio, Missouri.
41:55 Speaker 06 Spencer Neuharth got it correct.
41:57 Speaker 03 Oklahoma came in at $708, followed by Iowa at $644, Ohio $400, and Missouri at $288. I was surprised to read how many states have whitetail deer tags over 500. Uh, I'm used to paying 200 in Wisconsin, which is now I feel like a heck of a deal.
42:18 Speaker 04 And is that, is that like a benefit of being, uh?
42:21 Speaker 03 No.
42:22 Speaker 04 No.
42:22 Speaker 03 That's just standard price. Uh, Montana, like Cal was saying, 759.
42:29 Speaker 03 Woo.
42:30 Speaker 06 But the other fun thing though is like in Oklahoma. That's three deer. I think you get one buck and two does with that purchase. So.
42:40 Speaker 03 True that. You could, yeah. Amongst all this stuff, there's a lot of different, of variants about how many deer you might get.
42:47 Speaker 04 Well, you're also required to like have a small game license in some states.
42:50 Speaker 03 I tried to factor that in for the prices, like what it would minimum take to go hunting and that's, this is what I came up with.
42:58 Speaker 06 How many deer can you shoot in Missouri with a deer, it's just a deer license, right? Or do you have a tag?
43:04 Speaker 04 I'm not familiar enough, but they have a reputation for some of the cheapest tags. I'm in Ohio.
43:10 Speaker 03 But the cheapest one I could find was Pennsylvania.
43:14 Speaker 04 That's right. Hundred bucks.
43:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, like a couple of dollars over a hundred. Incredible.
43:18 Speaker 04 And that includes a bunch of other stuff. That's too cheap, I'd say.
43:22 Speaker 03 Man, they're like, come on down.
43:24 Speaker 04 They have a million resident hunters, so I just don't, it's like. You know what I mean?
43:30 Speaker 03 Oh, they're not looking at it like as a real source of red or new because people are like, stank going down there.
43:34 Speaker 06 They're like buyer beware.
43:38 Speaker 03 Um, one last thing here. If you're looking to get the best bang for your buck when heading out of state to hunt whitetails, read Tody Peterson's article, how to find the best value in non-resident whitetail tags at themeadier.com. All right. That was question five. So now we have a scoreboard update, Phil.
43:58 Speaker 06 Uh, yeah.
43:59 Speaker 03 I'm excited to see this. Woo. Spencer seems to do pretty good when I host.
44:05 Speaker 06 He does. I would call it suspicious, but I know he has not seen the question.
44:08 Speaker 03 All right. Still without a correct answer, we have Riva and Eric.
44:13 Speaker 06 Okay. Go ahead and take it away, Yance.
44:15 Speaker 03 Oh, sorry.
44:15 Speaker 06 No, that's fine. I don't care.
44:16 Speaker 04 This is an opportunity for you to sit back, Yanni, and let Phil. Yeah, yeah.
44:20 Speaker 03 You can reflect on how this has gone so far.
44:23 Speaker 06 I mean, from what I heard, that, that sounded great, better than what I do. Uh, Eric and Riva yet to make it on the board with zero points. Coming up next are Roman and Cal with one point apiece.
44:33 Speaker 03 Our usual champs, Randall and Brody, are tied up in, uh, well, I remember, I remember the Spencer, where there was an argument, I said, I would say tied up in second place, they're actually tied up in third place, uh, and then in first place, when they have two points apiece, and in first place, two points ahead of them is Spencer Neuharth, with four points. That was with Randall having a question written specifically for him.
44:55 Steven Rinella? I, I think we're tied, I think we're tied for second.
45:00 Speaker 03 No, I got yelled at by someone online, and I looked it up, like, if you have someone in first place, and then the next people- Phil's right. -that are down.
45:07 Steven Rinella? See, I think, I think we're tied for second, but Roman and Call are tied for fourth.
45:11 Speaker 03 I agree. Hmm. What do they do in the Olympics when someone ties? I don't want you to talk about my score. It's the way I just explained it. That's what I thought.
45:20 Speaker 03 Hey, everyone, Phil the Engineer here, piping in before I get yelled at by strangers on the internet to say that, yes, as per usual, Randall Williams is right, and I am, as they say, a big dumb idiot. Randall and Brody are tied up in second place, then it skips a spot, Roman and Call are tied up in fourth. Just to clarify these very important details. Now back to the show. I agree with Brody. Phil's right. Thank you. All right. Phil, help me a little bit on this question.
45:47 Steven Rinella? Well, good work, Phil.
45:48 Speaker 03 Barely. Question number six.
45:53 Speaker 03 Could also kind of fall into conservation, but it's a hunting question. Kiviot is the soft underwool of what animal?
46:05 Speaker 03 Randall, quick with an answer, sir.
46:06 Speaker 04 It's hunting or conservation?
46:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
46:11 Steven Rinella? It's the same category we've been in the whole time, Spencer, back off.
46:14 Speaker 03 It doesn't have to be, uh, a dead animal.
46:17 Speaker 04 It's actually textiles is the category.
46:22 Speaker 03 The question again is, kiviot, spelled Q-I-V-I-U-T-
46:28 Speaker 04 That's good hosting.
46:29 Speaker 03 Is the soft underwool of what animal? Spencer, do you have an answer?
46:34 Steven Rinella? I do.
46:35 Speaker 03 Great.
46:35 Steven Rinella? Phil, how'd you help with this one? Is it, was it a phrasing issue?
46:40 Speaker 06 Uh, it was just like a way, a way now, I would say, I was gonna say, no, it was a way to phrase the question, which would make it a phrasing issue.
46:47 Speaker 03 Anybody else get the, the feeling that Spencer is
46:52 Speaker 03 a little overconfident in this game, almost as if he like, was like, hey, I need to prove your. No, no, no.
47:00 Speaker 04 Phil funneled me the, the answers. Although I think Spencer has a very high win ratio because of the very few times that he's played.
47:10 Speaker 03 Looking to add to that.
47:13 Speaker 03 Does everybody have an answer? Roman?
47:15 Speaker 06 He's fine.
47:17 Speaker 03 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Roman says bison, cow, musk ox, Eric doll sheep. Oh, Spencer slipped up. Randall musk ox, Spencer bison, Reva sheep, Brody musk ox. The correct answer is musk ox. Sitting right next to it, Spencer. Spencer, Brody's a little fired up. Spencer can actually smell the kivi.
47:39 Speaker 06 What's the backstory here, Jay?
47:43 Speaker 03 I've been trying to get Steve to harvest the kivi from that musk ox hide since the day he shot it. Because when we were on Nunavak to hunt that musk ox, the guide had this like liner beanie made of kivi. And I've never put on anything softer. It's like cashmere on crack. I hope that's a good analogy. If you've ever touched or had a cashmere sweater, extremely soft. And you're on crack.
48:12 Speaker 03 Steroids. Steroids. It's, it's just extremely soft and literally made your head like radiate with warmth when you put it on.
48:22 Speaker 03 And I tried to buy it off the guide and he, and he refused to sell it.
48:27 Speaker 04 What was your offer?
48:29 Speaker 03 I think I offered him like 300 bucks. Yeah. Now, listen, if you guys want to hear a longer story about buying hats on Nunavak Island, I'm happy to tell it right now, or we can move on. I'm not watching the clock.
48:41 Speaker 06 We're, we're already past the, the average trivia length.
48:45 Speaker 03 Oh, boy.
48:47 Speaker 06 On question six. Yanis was the great millinery trader of the. So apologies to the listeners for that extra ad break you heard earlier in the show.
48:58 Speaker 03 Okay, that was question six. Onto question seven.
49:03 Speaker 03 A little pop culture for you suckers. What 2000 movie features Hubert the Bloodhound and his owner Harland Pepper?
49:17 Speaker 03 What 2000 movie features Hubert the Bloodhound?
49:23 Speaker 06 Love this movie.
49:24 Speaker 03 Owner Harland Pepper? I was hoping we'd have a fan in the room. You'll be able to help me with the flavor text, Cal.
49:31 Speaker 04 What movie would Cal love?
49:32 Speaker 05 Is this a movie that would be reviewed in Media Radio Live?
49:36 Speaker 03 Um...
49:37 Speaker 04 Don't give a hint.
49:38 Speaker 03 Yeah, let's not answer that.
49:42 Speaker 06 Brody should know this.
49:43 Speaker 03 Randall's writing, Brody does not have an answer. Reva? No?
49:48 Speaker 00 Nothing.
49:50 Speaker 04 No.
49:52 Speaker 06 It's a great show.
49:54 Speaker 00 Show?
49:54 Speaker 03 It is a great, great movie.
49:57 Speaker 06 Yeah, show movie.
49:59 Speaker 03 We just watched it.
50:00 Speaker 06 Great media.
50:01 Speaker 03 We just, we just watched it, uh, this weekend with our kids.
50:04 Speaker 06 Oh, no way. What'd the kids think?
50:06 Speaker 03 Uh, they were into it. It, uh, well, it's in my flavor text.
50:11 Speaker 04 I don't think you'd watch this movie with your kids.
50:14 Speaker 03 I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk to that point. Again, the question is what 2000 movie features Hubert the Bloodhound and his owner Harland Pepper?
50:24 Speaker 04 Mmm.
50:27 Speaker 03 Kids love dogs.
50:31 Speaker 03 Especially Bloodhounds.
50:32 Speaker 06 And they have a hound in the house. So...
50:36 Speaker 03 Brody, do you need more time? I have no idea what it is. Alright, folks, reveal your answers. Roman still writing.
50:45 Speaker 03 Roman, not gonna give me an answer.
50:49 Speaker 03 Where the red fern grows. Cal, Best in Show. Eric Fox and the Hound. Randall, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Spencer, Patriot. Reva, without an answer. Brody, Green Mile. We do have a correct answer. It is Best in Show.
51:06 Speaker 04 Never heard of that.
51:06 Speaker 00 That's a good one.
51:07 Speaker 06 Oh.
51:08 Speaker 03 You've seen it. Oh, good.
51:09 Speaker 00 I've seen it. I wasn't even...
51:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, I've seen it.
51:10 Speaker 03 Think in that genre at all. Okay. Um, yeah, I, we watched it with the kids. Everything is cool besides the sexual innuendos. Back in 2000, like it, it just wasn't a thing that you couldn't do those kind of jokes. And so it's just constant. Like you couldn't do comedy without just constant sexual innuendo. So that's a part of it. But the, all the dogs and the characters, amazing flick. You want to add anything?
51:40 Speaker 06 Well, the, the creator, his, his, uh, production company is called Pale Morning Dun. He's a big fly fisherman, comes, you know, spends a bunch of time in Montana. So that was kind of like a thing in the, the fly fishing guiding world is like, you just.
51:56 Speaker 03 You talking about Christopher Guest?
51:57 Speaker 06 Christopher Guest.
51:58 Speaker 03 Really? I had no idea.
51:59 Speaker 06 Well, don't you remember the scene where they're talking about flies?
52:02 Speaker 03 He goes, he goes, he, he meets with his crew because he's like the one southern guy on the, or like the one outdoors.
52:07 Speaker 06 Right. And he's a, he plays Harland Pepper.
52:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, he does.
52:10 Speaker 06 Yes, he plays Harland Pepper. Yeah.
52:12 Speaker 03 He's a, he's a, it's the same crew that did This is Spinal Tap and Waiting for Guffman and A Mighty Win.
52:17 Speaker 06 And Waiting for Guffman's absolutely fantastic too. Yeah.
52:21 Speaker 03 Oh, I don't think I've seen that one.
52:22 Speaker 06 Oh, treat yourself.
52:24 Speaker 03 Okay, I will. Next. That's great. Kid appropriate?
52:28 Speaker 06 Probably not. You're gonna have the exact same experience.
52:30 Speaker 03 They're, they're all, they're, they're all like riding the line between PG 13 and R. I don't think any of them are like that, that bad though.
52:36 Speaker 06 Yeah.
52:37 Speaker 03 All right. Well, Hubert the Bloodhound. Remember, I sent you. All right, on to question eight.
52:44 Speaker 06 I've never liked Weimaraners and Best in Show is like, just a good example.
52:51 Speaker 04 Why don't you like them?
52:53 Speaker 06 They're just not a good dog. Go ahead and write him.
52:59 Speaker 06 I had some good friends that had a couple of them and they were just horrible dogs.
53:04 Speaker 05 Dumb, don't listen.
53:06 Speaker 06 Aggressive in weird ways, like.
53:09 Speaker 03 Do you know the premise?
53:11 Speaker 04 Best in show? I assume it's about a dog show.
53:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, right. And, but they, they just do this amazing job of taking these dogs and then making these owners slash trainers be like, they are the dog, kind of a thing. Like whatever the dog is, so is their owner handler.
53:28 Speaker 06 Yeah.
53:28 Speaker 03 And it's, yeah.
53:29 Speaker 05 The only reason people own those dogs is because of that dude who, uh, featured them in like photos.
53:37 Speaker 06 Uh, playing poker.
53:39 Speaker 05 Yeah, all kinds of stupid shit like that. It's like a thing for like, a period of years, like 20, 25 years.
53:46 Speaker 04 Ad break?
53:47 Speaker 05 Go to ad break?
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56:27 Speaker 03 Question number eight. Question number eight. You guys can decide what category it lives in.
56:34 Speaker 04 Conservation.
56:35 Speaker 03 What six-letter term is aviation slang for the biological remains left behind after a bird strikes an aircraft, especially a turbine engine?
56:49 Speaker 03 The question is, what six-letter term is aviation slang for the biological remains left behind after a bird strikes an aircraft, especially a turbine engine?
57:05 Speaker 03 Got this one, Randall?
57:06 Steven Rinella? No, I, I know that I have.
57:08 Speaker 05 It in there somewhere and I'm never gonna access it.
57:10 Speaker 03 Hmm.
57:11 Speaker 05 So I just wrote something down.
57:14 Speaker 06 Riva, you know the lady I'm talking about. She's like, super famous now. But she's like, the way over the top.
57:20 Speaker 03 Jennifer Coolidge?
57:21 Speaker 06 Jennifer Coolidge, yes. Yeah, she's in the Christopher Guest movies.
57:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara, who are now super famous among young people because of Schitt's Creek. They're, they're in all those movies.
57:30 Speaker 06 Yeah, yeah, and they're great.
57:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, great show, great show.
57:33 Speaker 06 Yeah.
57:35 Speaker 05 One for the kids.
57:37 Speaker 03 That's right.
57:37 Speaker 05 Younger generation.
57:42 Speaker 04 Cal, you were confident, you know this?
57:45 Speaker 06 Yes.
57:46 Speaker 04 Hmm, oh.
57:47 Speaker 03 Good.
57:48 Speaker 06 God, making a late, late game run on Randy right now.
57:53 Speaker 03 It's getting tense now.
57:54 Speaker 06 And typically, it kind of falls apart under pressure like this. It's gonna be really interesting.
57:58 Speaker 03 This is question eight. How do you guys feel up to this point? Uh, pretty, uh, good, good, the level of questions, uh, the difficulty? Too hard, too easy?
58:09 Speaker 06 I just, the real relaxing flow in here right now.
58:14 Speaker 03 Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. It's time to hurry up. Roman says snarge, Cal, snarge, Eric without an answer, Randall says slop, Spencer, carry on, Riva, skykill. With one L, and Brody says jetsam. The correct answer is snarge. Listen to the Meat Eater Podcast, episode 417, where we interview Megan Dineen, USDA Airport Wildlife Biologist, about snarge, and all the other crazy stuff she deals with in her job.
58:46 Speaker 06 I thought that was gonna be a gimme. I think that that word made it around the office many, many times.
58:52 Speaker 03 But it's been a while.
58:53 Speaker 06 It didn't, yeah, we didn't keep it in our, would lexicon be the term? Good job.
58:59 Speaker 03 Okay, that was question eight, so now we need a scoreboard update. Phil?
59:06 Speaker 03 Yeah, Cal is making a late game breakout here. We've still got Eric and Reva with zero points. Roman has two, Brody and Randall tied up still with three points now, but Ryan Callaghan has pulled ahead and is now tied with Spencer, who has not gotten a point in the last few questions. He still has four and now Cal also has four.
59:26 Speaker 06 I kind of feel like I should be happy, but it's kind of sad watching these two crumble.
59:32 Speaker 06 Mentally, they just don't have, you know.
59:35 Speaker 03 Okay, on to question nine.
59:40 Speaker 03 A crescent shaped lake in an abandoned, abandoned loop of river channel is called what?
59:48 Speaker 04 This one, I think we have had.
59:49 Speaker 05 We have had this one.
59:50 Speaker 03 Okay, well, you're gonna get it again.
59:52 Speaker 06 I missed that one.
59:53 Speaker 03 Getting it again. A crescent shaped lake in an abandoned loop of river channel is called what?
59:59 Speaker 06 Not a game changer, Yannis.
1:00:04 Speaker 03 One, two, three. I don't know, Cal's thinking. Did you write an answer? Oh, he's got an answer. Roman not writing.
1:00:13 Speaker 03 Reva also not writing. For those of you that are gonna have an answer, go ahead and flip your boards around. Cal, Oxbow, Randall, Oxbow, Spencer, Oxbow Lake, Brody, Oxbow. They are correct.
1:00:30 Speaker 06 Abandoned by what?
1:00:33 Speaker 05 The water.
1:00:34 Speaker 06 Gets cut off by?
1:00:35 Speaker 03 By the rest of the river.
1:00:37 Speaker 06 Sediment or whatever.
1:00:38 Speaker 03 Brody, during our guiding days on the Eagle River, actually got to watch one be created and I swear to you, I was on the river the day that it started and I floated through a chunk of cottonwoods that the river had never gone through. And it was the wildest thing ever. The people are still like, where should we cast? And I'm like, you don't understand. This isn't where we're supposed to be right now. We're floating through the forest as opposed to down the main river channel. It was pretty cool.
1:01:04 Speaker 04 You think you were the first one through that part of the river?
1:01:07 Speaker 03 I mean, first ten boats that ever went through there, for sure. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Um, and yeah, well, that oxbow for a while held fish and then as happens with oxbows, they're cut off and no water coming in, no water going out and they slowly fill in and they get hot and no more fishies.
1:01:26 Speaker 04 Some of them will keep, I mean, if like it's a big enough river, they'll become their own little fishery.
1:01:31 Speaker 03 But what I was reading is that eventually all of them will silt in and vegetation will grow in because if it does not have water, freshwater coming in.
1:01:40 Speaker 04 Hmm.
1:01:41 Speaker 06 Yeah, there can be like, you know, water coming up from underneath too, and in some of these systems, you know, it's like a reflection, or it's the uppermost layer of the aquifer type of deal.
1:01:52 Speaker 03 Okay, uh, one more scoreboard update, Phil?
1:01:54 Speaker 06 Oh yeah, sorry, I'm getting your, I'm getting your tiebreaker question prepped because I'm making assumptions.
1:02:02 Speaker 04 Four ad breaks.
1:02:03 Speaker 06 Yeah, apologies. Uh, yeah, I mean, like Brody said, not exactly a game changer for the, uh, competition here. We still got Randall and Brody tied up with four now, and Cal and Spencer have five.
1:02:16 Speaker 03 All right, and if you're playing at home, you need to know the correct answers. For number one, it was 24 inches. Question two, ASAT. Question three, two. Question four, data on previous engagements. Question five, Oklahoma, Iowa, Ohio, Missouri. Question six, musk ox. Question seven, best in show. Question eight, snarge. Question nine, Oxbow Lake. Now, question number 10, which, as we always do here, is fishing.
1:02:53 Speaker 03 Ah, I got a little laugh there. Bagnell Dam was built across the Osage River to make this famous body of water.
1:03:05 Speaker 03 Bagnell Dam was built across the Osage River to make this famous body of water.
1:03:16 Speaker 03 Randall writing, Brody thinking, Spencer looking at the question again.
1:03:26 Speaker 03 Cal writing down an answer.
1:03:29 Speaker 03 Phil still trying to figure out where that noise is coming from.
1:03:32 Speaker 06 Yeah, we're still getting cellphone stuff from somewhere, but you know, it's
1:03:35 Speaker 03 Might be Roman's coffee cup, probably.
1:03:39 Speaker 04 Famous by what measure? Why is it famous? Don't say that.
1:03:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, I think I can tell you later, am I?
1:03:46 Speaker 04 Let's call it well-known.
1:03:48 Speaker 03 Well-known, there you go. To make this well-known body of water.
1:03:58 Speaker 06 Don't say that.
1:04:03 Speaker 05 Stinking of famous lakes.
1:04:05 Speaker 06 Just trying to avoid, avoid some embarrassment.
1:04:09 Speaker 05 It's too late for that one. I'm gonna get bullied at work tomorrow. It's okay.
1:04:13 Speaker 03 Now I really wanna see it. Do the Steve thing. Just put a line through it.
1:04:17 Speaker 06 No, I don't do it.
1:04:18 Speaker 05 It's gone.
1:04:19 Speaker 03 It's gone.
1:04:21 Speaker 06 Sorry. I don't mean to.
1:04:22 Speaker 03 Alright, one last time. Bagnell Dam was built across the Osage River to make this well-known body of water.
1:04:33 Speaker 06 You can say something else, but...
1:04:34 Speaker 05 I know.
1:04:35 Speaker 03 I liked it. Oh. For, uh...
1:04:39 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:04:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:43 Speaker 06 Safe. I don't know. Safe word pack.
1:04:48 Speaker 03 Don't say that one. But you can.
1:04:52 Speaker 03 Alright.
1:04:54 Speaker 03 Flip your boards. Roman, no answer. Cal, Lake of the Ozarks. Eric, Canyon Ferry. Randall, Lake of the Ozarks. Spencer, Lake of the Ozarks. Riva, Lake of the Ozarks. Yeah, on the board!
1:05:05 Speaker 06 Wow.
1:05:08 Speaker 06 Sam Rayburn.
1:05:09 Speaker 03 Sam Rayburn. The correct answer is Lake of the Ozarks. Bagnell Dam was completed in 1931 and is 2,500 feet long. Lake of the Ozarks is known for its great fishing. March is the beginning of spoonbill season. These, these prehistoric filter feeders gather in deep holes, making them much easier to target. Since they don't eat traditional lures, you gotta snag 'em. The largest spoonbill to come out of the Lake of Ozarks was snagged by Chad Williams of Alata, Kansas. It weighed 164 pounds, 13 ounces, and is the current world record.
1:05:51 Speaker 03 That's a big old fish.
1:05:52 Speaker 06 You know, Spoonbill is a geographical.
1:05:55 Speaker 03 That's right.
1:05:55 Speaker 06 Differentiator.
1:05:56 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
1:05:57 Speaker 06 It's like, we have Spoonbill in Montana that are native to Montana, but if you said, "Yeah, I caught a Spoonbill", people would be like, "I don't know what you're talking about. Paddlefish country up here."
1:06:06 Speaker 03 Yeah. Interestingly, on all of the websites I was looking at around, uh, Lake of the Ozarks, they're, um, they make a point to call out both terms.
1:06:15 Speaker 06 Oh, they do?
1:06:16 Speaker 03 Yep, so that, so that you know.
1:06:17 Speaker 04 Sometimes you'll hear a combo to Spoonbill Catfish. Folks say that.
1:06:21 Speaker 03 Oh.
1:06:22 Speaker 04 I used to do Creole surveys. That would come up.
1:06:25 Speaker 06 Like the.
1:06:26 Speaker 03 Great eating fish.
1:06:26 Speaker 06 Spoonbill is a catfish?
1:06:29 Speaker 04 No, no, it's not a catfish, but they would, they would say it as though you were talking about like, uh, a smallmouth bass, right?
1:06:35 Speaker 06 Interstate.
1:06:35 Speaker 04 Spoonbill Catfish.
1:06:36 Speaker 03 It's like regional vernacular.
1:06:38 Speaker 06 Yeah. I was also reading like the, the, uh, Fancy Sonar, uh, has assisted the Spoonbill guiding industry tremendously.
1:06:47 Speaker 03 Oh, dude, they outlawed that shit, uh, in Montana.
1:06:51 Speaker 06 Oh, they did?
1:06:51 Speaker 03 For paddlefish.
1:06:52 Speaker 06 Yep.
1:06:53 Speaker 03 Hmm.
1:06:54 Speaker 06 Yep.
1:06:54 Speaker 03 Phil, where are we sitting at after that final question that some of us got right and some didn't? Well, Yanis, that's gonna bring us to a tiebreaker round, because we got Ryan Callaghan and Spencer Neuharth tied up with six points apiece.
1:07:07 Speaker 04 I'm just gonna sit back.
1:07:12 Speaker 03 Oh, well, I'm glad I could pitch a game where, uh, neither Randall nor Brody won. Um, okay, on to the tiebreaker.
1:07:24 Steven Rinella? I think just cut it at, "If you ain't first, you're last", and then like go into other stuff that's funny. I never liked it. Hey, Phil, [bleep] off, man.
1:07:33 Speaker 03 Thanks for playing the drop, Phil. My, my pleasure. Tiebreaker. How big in inches is the current archery whitetail buck record in Wisconsin?
1:07:44 Speaker 06 Well, good game, Spencer.
1:07:46 Speaker 04 I don't know Wisconsin.
1:07:47 Speaker 03 And I would like you to, uh, answer within, uh, within, uh, fraction.
1:07:53 Speaker 06 Wait a minute.
1:07:54 Speaker 03 To an eighth. How big in inches is the current archery whitetail buck record in Wisconsin?
1:08:00 Speaker 04 And this is, um, Grosser Net.
1:08:04 Speaker 03 Uh, this is.
1:08:05 Speaker 04 Typical or non-typical?
1:08:06 Speaker 03 Oh, it was supposed to say typical.
1:08:08 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
1:08:10 Speaker 03 Sorry, but yeah, it is typical. The visual, uh, accompaniment.
1:08:14 Speaker 04 Oh, so we get to see this deer, too?
1:08:16 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:08:16 Speaker 04 Wow, alright.
1:08:19 Speaker 04 Hmm.
1:08:22 Speaker 04 You know that guy?
1:08:22 Speaker 06 Uh? God, he would've been a hell of a buck next year.
1:08:27 Speaker 04 He's only four and a half.
1:08:30 Speaker 06 Mismatched camo. I like to see it. Ohhh.
1:08:35 Speaker 03 I like it when they got that blonde forehead, though. Cool looking when they look like that.
1:08:39 Speaker 06 Mm-hmm.
1:08:43 Speaker 06 Now, the question is, does that guy have small hands or big hands? Yeah, well, there's a couple of deductions in there, too.
1:08:53 Speaker 03 What's the, uh, what do we, what do we gotta go to?
1:08:58 Speaker 03 To the, to an eighth.
1:09:07 Speaker 06 God, the main beams on that fuck sucker.
1:09:11 Speaker 04 Girthy.
1:09:17 Speaker 03 Sometimes I start to think these giants, I'm like, eh, it doesn't look that big. But then when I compare it all to the buck's ear, then all of a sudden I go, oh, yeah, that's right. That ear's probably
1:09:27 Speaker 04 Given some hints.
1:09:28 Speaker 03 Six inches long, and now all of a sudden, everything, you, you start to gain some context.
1:09:34 Speaker 04 You can see this buck on the YouTube channel, that Yanni is having a score.
1:09:38 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
1:09:41 Speaker 04 What year was this killed?
1:09:43 Speaker 03 Uh, it was killed
1:09:44 Speaker 04 That looks like, uh, that looks like a 2001 picture.
1:09:47 Speaker 03 14.
1:09:48 Speaker 04 2014?
1:09:49 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
1:09:50 Speaker 04 Whoa! I like this guy.
1:09:52 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm, vintage. He was doing vintage before vintage was cool.
1:09:58 Speaker 03 Alright, so the two that are, uh, actually playing here are Cal and Spencer, correct?
1:10:04 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
1:10:04 Speaker 03 So, hold on, I always forget
1:10:05 Speaker 06 But everyone's gotta write it down.
1:10:07 Speaker 04 Everyone should play along. Someone gets it right in the nose, we'll add an extra hundred dollars to the donation.
1:10:11 Speaker 03 Okay, so everybody reveal, besides Cal and, uh, Spencer. Roman going 208 and 08s, Eric going 233 38s, Randall 228 48s, Reva 210 08s, Brody 207 and 38s.
1:10:31 Speaker 03 Now between Cal and Spencer. Cal says 219 and an eighth. Spencer, 193 and an eighth. We have a winner, of course, we would.
1:10:45 Speaker 03 But the winner is within two inches.
1:10:48 Speaker 06 Oh my goodness.
1:10:49 Speaker 03 And the number is 191 6/8ths, making Spencer's heart today's winner.
1:10:57 Speaker 06 Oh. Who else was sub 200?
1:11:01 Speaker 03 He took this buck. Um, his name is Adam Hupf. H U P F.
1:11:07 Speaker 04 Another Hupf. The other Hupf is H U F F.
1:11:10 Speaker 03 Well, yeah, I don't know how to pronounce this guy's last name.
1:11:13 Speaker 04 Do it again, H O P F?
1:11:15 Speaker 03 H U P F.
1:11:17 Speaker 06 It's so, I just assumed like everything had to be over 200 inches. It doesn't look like a 200 plus inch buck, but I'm like, it just has to be.
1:11:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, net.
1:11:27 Speaker 04 Typical, it's hard to get there.
1:11:28 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:11:30 Speaker 06 But what like Doug's big giant bucket at his place in Wisconsin is.
1:11:35 Speaker 05 We just call that a 14 pointer and be good with it.
1:11:41 Speaker 03 Um, I think, I want to say it's over 200 inches, isn't it? The standard?
1:11:45 Speaker 06 That's what I thought, but.
1:11:46 Speaker 03 But I don't know, it's like not, it's for some reason it's not typical, probably.
1:11:50 Speaker 04 Hmm.
1:11:51 Speaker 03 Well, Spencer, as today's winner, you get to choose where the $500 donation will go.
1:11:57 Speaker 04 I'm gonna donate to the North American Sturgeon and Paddlefish Society. I donated to them, uh, the last few times. Really like that organization, uh, they deserve more attention. Um, most people listening to this will probably never catch a sturgeon or a paddlefish. Uh, and that's okay. They're, they're just, uh, an amazing fish. Hopefully like you, it just, uh, makes you happy knowing that they exist out there. And then we have some dinosaurs swimming around our rivers. Uh, and this is the one conservation organization dedicated to them. Uh, my favorite animals in the world, $500 going their way. And they're right here in Bozeman.
1:12:29 Speaker 03 Spoonbills.
1:12:30 Speaker 04 That's right.
1:12:30 Speaker 03 I'm really glad you could get this win, Spencer.
1:12:33 Speaker 04 Thank you.
1:12:33 Speaker 03 Thank you, Spencer.
1:12:35 Speaker 06 Proud of you.
1:12:35 Speaker 03 For, well, thank you all for playing. Good job, Spencer, for winning. Phil, thanks again for your, uh, great work as always. Uh, thanks for everybody listening at home and watching at home also. And join us next week for more Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins.
1:12:51 Speaker 04 And Randall's hosting.
1:12:52 Speaker 06 Thanks, Yannis.
1:12:52 Speaker 04 Thank you, Yanni.
1:12:55 Speaker 07 Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down.
1:13:08 Speaker 07 And he likes taking those two and three-year-old bucks.
1:13:12 Speaker 07 And he's an avid amateur. Rockhound.
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