315 Kathryn Budig on Aiming True to Yourself, Your Body, & Your Life

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• 0:00Lewis Howes?

  This is episode number 315 with Catherine Boudick.

• 0:07Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 0:33Lewis Howes?

  Welcome everyone to this incredible episode number 315. I'm so blessed and grateful. I'm back in LA today. I had an incredible trip again back in Vancouver. If you missed the last episode where I talked about, I met so many fascinating people, such warm people in Canada. Man, it just brought me back to feeling like I was back in Ohio, bringing me back to my roots. I love the warmness, the energy, the beauty of the people, the place in Vancouver. Man, it was just a great weekend, full weekend, lots of great interviews. I got to speak at a great conference called Man Talks to talk about how to be a more vulnerable man

• 1:14Lewis Howes?

  and how to be a better husband, father, son, and just a better man in general. You know, we just had a great conversation with about 400 people in the room and a lot of laughter, a lot of tears, all that good stuff wrapped up in one. I'm just got a lot going on right now and we are just starting. We're just getting started still and I'm so pumped and you guys inspire me. You know, I was in Vancouver and I was surprised because more people stopped me on the street in Vancouver than when I'm in New York or in LA. And I was just so grateful for people's stories and all they shared about how much they love this podcast. And you know, I don't know who listens to the podcast unless you... Tell me, unless you tell me when you see me in person, or you send a tweet, or a Facebook

• 1:58Lewis Howes?

  message, or you email me. So, you know, it's hard to, it's hard to know the impact this is having until, you know, I get to give people a hug and say thank you, and hear their stories of transformation in their lives and relationships and their health. And it's just such a blessing. So I want to say thank you, guys. Before we jump into this episode, thank you, thank you, thank you for all that you do, and all your incredible support with this movement of the School of Greatness. Now, today's episode is with my friend Catherine Budig. And Catherine is an internationally celebrated yoga teacher and author, known for her accessibility, humor, and ability to empower her students through her message, which is all about aiming true. With over a decade of experience in her field, she

• 2:42Lewis Howes?

  serves as the yoga contributor to Women's Health Magazine for five years, and writes weekly for Yoga Journal. She's also a sponsored athlete in Underarmors I Will What I Want campaign, and just released her second book, which is called Aim True. We talk a lot about her process as a yoga teacher, and what she really does to navigate people through their own journey, their own journey of discovering what's true for them. So we cover her background, how she really got started, a little bit about her book, but more about the ways to love your body for who you are, how to practice more self-love, and all the different practices

• 3:25Lewis Howes?

  that she's talked about in overcoming the challenges of body image and needing to keep up constantly. So how do we, how do we use and apply the principles that she's learned through yoga and apply it for our daily life? I think you guys will enjoy this one, and please let me know what you think back at the blog, lewishouse.com/315. Make sure to share this out. Click on the share button if you're on iTunes right now on your phone, and just share it out and tweet it out, and let people know what you're listening to. And also, if you have time, go check out the full video interview over on YouTube. You can subscribe at youtube.com/lewishouse, and check out all of our previous interviews there as well. Without further ado, let me introduce you to the one, the only Catherine Butdig.

• 4:14Lewis Howes?

  Welcome back to one of the School Grading Podcast. Very excited about our guest today. Her name is Catherine Beutig and she's got a new book out called Aim True. Make sure to check this out. We'll have it linked up in the show notes after this podcast or below the YouTube video. It's all about loving your body, eat without fear, nourish your spirit, and discover true balance. Thank you so much for being here.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  It's so good to see you. This is great.

• 4:37Lewis Howes?

  We had a good time. We were at Summit Series doing some acro yoga together.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you have to tell them exactly when this happened. This was like

• 4:44Lewis Howes?

  It's like the first moment, right?

• 4:45Speaker 01

  The second step onto the ship after I had eaten this huge meal. And you're like, "Let's go upside down."

• 4:50Lewis Howes?

  I think Michelle, you were with Michelle Promalaco, right?

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I had on jeans and boots and you're like, "You got this."

• 4:56Lewis Howes?

  I was like, "You do yoga? Let's do acro yoga right now."

• 4:57Speaker 01

  "You got this."

• 4:58Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I was like, "Let's go." And then you were like, "I'm so full."

• 5:02Speaker 01

  Like, "I'm so sorry."

• 5:02Lewis Howes?

  Trying to stand on my hands.

• 5:03Speaker 01

  I'm gonna vomit all over you right now, but you're really cute.

• 5:05Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. But it was fun. And you've got this book out and you're a big deal in the yoga world. People love you. People come to all your sessions and we got a good chance to talk on the ship and kind of connect more and I'm excited about your book. So,

• 5:21Speaker 01

  Awesome.

• 5:22Lewis Howes?

  How did you get into yoga in the first place? How did it all start?

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Oh, gosh. Well, I was an athlete tomboy growing up, so I've always been really active. And when I was at the University of Virginia, I was doing musical theater at this point. And one of my ballet friends, she went off and did yoga with part of her ballet camp. And so she came back super animated and psyched about it. And it's like, "There's this thing called yoga and we have to do it." And I'm like, "Aight, cool."

• 5:47Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  So she found what I now know was an ashtanga studio and we went and took a class. And the first class, I did not enjoy at all. It was a male teacher and I didn't realize they're supposed to touch you and that's okay. So I was like,

• 6:00Lewis Howes?

  This is your first yoga class?

• 6:01Speaker 01

  "Don't be getting fresh with me." And it was like giving the adjustments and stuff. I'm like, "Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah." And he was just, you know, his verbiage was very like, "Oh, river runs through your soul into the rocks of your..." I was like, "I'm not resonating with this at all." So I left thinking yoga was not my thing. And she's like, "No, please, please, please, please, try again." So we went back and I took this amazing classroom woman named Jennifer Elliott. And she was just this vision, you know, long gray braids, stunning, beautiful, ageless. And I fell in love with her in the practice.

• 6:31Lewis Howes?

  Perfect posture.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  Oh, just stunning. I was like, "I want to be like you. What are you doing? Sign me up. I'm on." So I started practicing ashtanga every week and then, you know, gathered enough money to do two classes a week. And by the time I graduated, I wanted to go to Los Angeles to pursue an acting career and thought, maybe I should learn how to teach yoga and that'll, you know, feed me and pay the bills until I make a big time in Hollywood.

• 6:57Lewis Howes?

  Sure, so you moved to LA after Virginia and you were trying to be an actress?

• 7:00Speaker 01

  I did.

• 7:01Lewis Howes?

  Or I guess called actor.

• 7:02Speaker 01

  And the first meeting that I had with a manager, and keep in mind, I was 21 years old, like fresh out of college, all sparkly and shiny and, and the first manager I sat down with, she's like, you know, I really hate to be the one to tell you this, but at the weight that you're at right now, you could be the funny best friend. I know, it's horrible. And, I mean, I was tiny, I was 21 and tiny and I just was like, okay.

• 7:27Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 7:28Speaker 01

  And, you know, so mind screw right away, right off the bat.

• 7:32Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  And so as that was happening to me, I was simultaneously training and getting into yoga in a world where it's like, hey, you're perfect the way you are and, and you should love yourself right now. So it was this really interesting correlation going on where I, I was like, hey, I want this. I want to feel good about myself every day and I don't need people tearing me apart. So I, I took my theatrical training and put it into my, my teaching to be a dynamic teacher.

• 7:57Lewis Howes?

  A yoga teacher?

• 7:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 8:00Lewis Howes?

  So you took teacher training out here?

• 8:01Speaker 01

  I did. I, I trained at Yoga Works in Santa Monica with Chuck Miller and Matias Roddy.

• 8:04Lewis Howes?

  How long ago was this?

• 8:05Speaker 01

  This was 2004.

• 8:07Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:09Lewis Howes?

  Before yoga was like a thing.

• 8:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, before, I mean, this is way before the age of social media.

• 8:13Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  I remember when someone pressured me into joining Facebook. I was like, what is this thing?

• 8:18Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 8:19Speaker 01

  I don't want to.

• 8:20Lewis Howes?

  But 2004, was yoga even popular then? I mean, maybe in LA it was, but...

• 8:22Speaker 01

  That was, you know, like Sean Corn and Shiva Ray and Baron Baptiste and Brian Cast and, you know, the people who are still huge today, but it was a very small pool.

• 8:31Lewis Howes?

  Rodney.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  Rodney, who's been around...

• 8:33Lewis Howes?

  I saw him in New York about a few weeks ago and I love that guy.

• 8:35Speaker 01

  I was...

• 8:36Lewis Howes?

  I took athletes for yoga.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  Oh, no way.

• 8:38Lewis Howes?

  Yoga for athletes like the DBD back when I was at college.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 8:40Lewis Howes?

  And I was like, who is this? Like... Long haired.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  The ponytail.

• 8:44Lewis Howes?

  Exactly. I was like, who's this guy? But I bought it in a store and I was like, anything to give me the edge.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  That's so funny. I was just teaching at their studio in New York for my book launch with Colleen, his wife.

• 8:52Lewis Howes?

  I met her too, yeah.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  And she was so funny. She's like Rodney always threatens to shave his ponytail off.

• 8:57Lewis Howes?

  No way.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  That's, that's his threat, that he's just gonna shave it off.

• 9:00Lewis Howes?

  That's hilarious.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh. Um, yeah, so it was a land before handstands, you know, when yoga was a really physical activity that it is now much less acrobatic and showy. Um, and I, I certainly didn't get into it because I thought I was gonna be some big rock star yoga teacher. I just loved yoga and thought it would be, I was a kid. I was like, this is-

• 9:22Lewis Howes?

  Make some money on the side.

• 9:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, and, and it's fun and I get to do something physical with my body all the time.

• 9:27Lewis Howes?

  Right, right.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  And I just didn't really know where I was going with my life yet. And it, it turned into this accidental career as I started teaching more and more and realized, oh, I could actually make a living doing this.

• 9:37Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  And it continued to evolve into where I am now.

• 9:40Lewis Howes?

  How long were you in LA for then?

• 9:41Speaker 01

  I was here for eight years.

• 9:43Lewis Howes?

  Eight years teaching?

• 9:44Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 9:45Lewis Howes?

  At Yoga Works more? Did you have your own practice or?

• 9:47Speaker 01

  I primarily taught at Yoga Works. There were, I dabbled at a couple of their studios and then had a bunch of private clientele as well.

• 9:53Lewis Howes?

  Okay, cool.

• 9:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:54Lewis Howes?

  Um, and why did you decide to move?

• 9:56Speaker 01

  Cause it's, uh, LA is rough, man. How long have you been here?

• 10:01Lewis Howes?

  It's gonna be four years in July, so it's still okay.

• 10:03Speaker 01

  Check in with me in a couple of years.

• 10:05Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, right, right.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  Um, you know, I, I think especially as a woman, not to leave out men, I think as a human, living in LA, being a yogi in the health world, it's incredibly draining. And I just reached a point where it was so cutthroat and so competitive. And, and I just started to feel really bad about my body. And I was in good shape, but it was-

• 10:24Lewis Howes?

  You're teaching every day.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, and you're in stretchy, stretchy, stretchy pants.

• 10:29Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 10:29Speaker 01

  You know, there's like, no, you don't teach yoga in a mu mu, right? Like, you gotta suck it up and put that stuff on. And, and it was just the kind of thing where I would see people who were, you know, on the cover of magazines, in DVDs, and they were applauded for being the epitome of health. Like, oh my gosh, look at them. They're so beautiful. They're so healthy. And then behind the scenes, I saw what they were actually doing to look that way.

• 10:48Lewis Howes?

  What were they doing?

• 10:48Speaker 01

  Just juicing all week, which to me is like, oh, so you're not eating, you're just drinking juice.

• 10:56Lewis Howes?

  Starving yourself.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  Slow starvation, binging on the weekend, just basically doing all these really, and by the way, I love juice, but I like it with food.

• 11:04Lewis Howes?

  Food is all, yeah.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  You know, and it just saw people making these really unhealthy choices, only to step in front of a camera to praise me, look how healthy I am. When they were working so hard and an unhealthy way to look that way.

• 11:16Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  And I'm, I just, I was like, I want to see people who eat well, who work out, who rest, who, who balance their lives and show me that body. And show me that there's no one body, like, show me that this comes in all different shapes and sizes and, and like, I feel like this is how we're going to make dramatic change in people's lives and the way, and their neuroses and how they view themselves. It's like, it's not one body type, it's not one age, it's not one skin color that is what looks good.

• 11:42Lewis Howes?

  Right, right.

• 11:43Speaker 01

  And I just reached a point in LA where like, that's what was happening. I was like, I can't, I just, I'm exhausted by this.

• 11:48Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  I'm so tired.

• 11:50Lewis Howes?

  So you ended up to move, where did you move?

• 11:51Speaker 01

  I did, I live in Charleston, South Carolina now.

• 11:53Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, okay.

• 11:54Speaker 01

  And, oh, I love it.

• 11:55Lewis Howes?

  You love it now?

• 11:56Speaker 01

  I love it so much.

• 11:56Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. They like, they like their food there.

• 11:59Lewis Howes?

  Of course, yeah, of course. So do you think, uh, right now is, uh, the most pressure for, I guess, men and women to look a certain way? Or do you think it's been worse in the?

• 12:08Speaker 01

  I think, oh, I think it's absolutely the worst right now because of social media, because there's a platform where.

• 12:15Lewis Howes?

  Instagram has ruined it for people.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  Well, it's, and it's so sad because I, I think the concept of Instagram is so genius. Like an online photo album of your, all of your memories. And I love going back and looking at everything that I've done. It's, it's exciting. But the problem is, and all these filter, I think the filter was a major problem. And now we have like Photoshop apps where you can shrink your waist and like, basically remove your nose if you want to, like.

• 12:39Lewis Howes?

  Be a different person.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  It's insane. It's absolutely insane. And so people are putting up these candid photos of like, oh, look at me.

• 12:46Lewis Howes?

  Everything, yeah.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  Everything. And, but that's what we're seeing as normal. So like, that's not relatable, that's not inspiring. It's just, you look at this person, oh, I guess I should be looking like that and I don't, but that's just them hanging out on a Sunday.

• 13:00Lewis Howes?

  In their PJs.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  Right? You know, so.

• 13:02Lewis Howes?

  Making up in bed.

• 13:03Speaker 01

  And then I think about the, the younger generation too. And, you know, I grew up in Kansas without cell phones or social media and I didn't. Think about my body when I was young, that just, and I was an athlete, you know, I wanted my body to be more muscular. Like, I wanted soccer thighs. I loved Kobe Jones growing up. I was like, I want to look like Kobe Jones. That would not have been a good look for me. But, um, so, and I see all these little boys and little girls with this pressure now to, to be adults so soon and to look a certain way. And I, I do think that social media is a horrible byproduct of that.

• 13:36Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. It can be used for good or for evil, I guess, right? You can manipulate in any way.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Well, and I think, you know, people, like in our roles, we have the power to take this kind of platform and ideally take some of that negativity and flip it back into a, a place of positivity to, to help people out. Like, we're in such amazing, amazing powerful places to, to put some goodness back out there.

• 13:58Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. Okay. So after eight years, you realized that your health, your body, things weren't working, the energy, something was off for you, right?

• 14:05Speaker 01

  Right. Yeah. It just...

• 14:06Lewis Howes?

  So you decided to move?

• 14:07Speaker 01

  I did.

• 14:08Lewis Howes?

  And did you have, was your career already set up then where you're like, I'm already making good money, no matter where I go, I'm going to be fine?

• 14:14Speaker 01

  It, it was terrifying. I'm not going to lie, you know, because LA, and I still believe it to be the mecca of yoga, basically. So I talked to Sean Corn, who's an amazing yoga teacher, if you don't know who she is, and she's my mentor. And I was like, hey, I think I want to leave LA. I don't know what the hell I'm doing, but I think I want to get out of here and I hope it doesn't ruin my career. And she said, you know, if anything, it's actually going to make you do way better. It's going to make you harder to find. Like, it's, it's going to blow things up. And you, if anything, the way to really succeed in life, you need to find balance. So you need that home. You need a place where you can go and you can recharge. And that's clearly not happening for you in Los Angeles.

• 14:51Lewis Howes?

  So practicing what you preach every day in the yoga class, you need to find balance.

• 14:54Speaker 01

  And a massive leap of faith, right? You know, just, and I, I did have enough finances coming in that I could make the move happen.

• 15:01Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  But it was just, okay, I'm going to summon in something that I deeply want, even though it may not necessarily be quote unquote associated with success in my career. And it, it did end up making my career so much stronger than when I lived here.

• 15:13Lewis Howes?

  Really? So now you get more private events that people are flying you out for? What's, what's happening?

• 15:18Speaker 01

  Workshops, conferences, talks, you know, I'm constantly traveling, doing some kind of yoga or speaking event.

• 15:25Lewis Howes?

  Right. You're more exclusive because you're not as accessible.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then a place to write a book too, you know, where I can actually have a moment to, to step away from everything and, and do my articles and write my books and... And not feel like my hair is being pulled out at the same time.

• 15:39Lewis Howes?

  Constantly need to like to show up to all the different events all the time.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:42Lewis Howes?

  Like in LA, that's always happening. Yeah.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:44Lewis Howes?

  I'm always getting asked to go to something, three things a night, you know?

• 15:47Speaker 01

  Right. And how do you say no? You're like, I'm not here. Don't look at my Instagram page. I'm totally here.

• 15:52Lewis Howes?

  No, Snapchat. I'm constantly like posting all day long. So, um, so why did you decide to do this book? And what's the, uh, the biggest lesson you learned about yourself and writing Aim True?

• 16:01Speaker 01

  Oh gosh. Well, you know what's funny about this book is that I was talking with my literary agent about my next book. My first one was the Women's Health Big Book of Yoga. We were both, was Rodale for that. Um, and, and so I went to her, I was like, hey, I've got three books I want to write. I could easily write another yoga book. No big deal. I really want to write a cookbook. But I'm not a chef. And then I want to write a book about Aim True because I've been teaching that for so long. And she was like, oh, you're not really famous enough to do anything but yoga.

• 16:30Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 16:30Speaker 01

  So you should write another yoga book. So I was like, okay. So I put together, you know, a 30-page proposal for this yoga book. And then we started shopping it to all the different publishers. And it was going over really well, but several of the publishers were like, hey, cool, but what's this whole Aim True thing? That's interesting. Tell us more. So next thing you know, they're like whipped together two pages, just a tiny proposal for it, which I did. And then that's what I ended up going with.

• 16:56Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  And it was that moment in time where I was like, okay, so this is the universe being like, do it now. Don't wait. Like just you need to, to put it out there.

• 17:04Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  So it was a really interesting writing process because I didn't have a huge proposal. I didn't have an amazing table of contents. I just had my experiences and it's, it's my heart. So I know I could write about it, but I'm sitting there like, oh my gosh. Wait, this is actually happening. I'm, I'm putting this pen to paper right now. So it was phenomenal. And I have an unbelievable editor and it was really special because it felt organic and magical. Like really coming together and not, this is what you're going to write. It's like, let's, what feels good? What, what is going to make sense? So it kind of turned into this, you know, the, explain the Aim True philosophy and then how does it apply to all different aspects of my life?

• 17:38Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  And, and the reader's life. And I think the hardest part was, you know, I thought it would just pour out of me like blood because it's so important to me. But I think because it was so important to me, I was like, don't mess up, don't screw it up, don't screw it up, don't screw it up.

• 17:53Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure, sure, of course.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  You know, it's so important to me. So I was very meticulous with my words and how I wanted to present this because I wanted to give it the best life possible.

• 18:05Lewis Howes?

  Right, right.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  And to reach as many people, you know, I obviously want the people who know me to read this book, but what would make me thrilled is for people who've never heard of me, never, don't know anything about the health world or yoga to pick up this book and be really drawn to it and have it affect them.

• 18:19Lewis Howes?

  I like it. Who was the most influential person in your life growing up?

• 18:23Speaker 01

  Growing up? Oh my gosh. You know, I mean, I know this is such a generic answer, but I've got to say my dad because my dad is such a phenomenal human being. He grew up in a little tiny town in Nebraska, came from absolutely nothing, and he ended up running four different universities. He ran the American League for Major League Baseball for years. He taught at Princeton University. He's a three-star general in the Air Force. Dude is amazing.

• 18:50Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  So I grew up looking at him, being like, okay, so if I want to do something, you just do it.

• 18:57Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 18:58Speaker 01

  There's no question. You just do it. He wanted to become the president of the American League of Baseball, so he did it.

• 19:04Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 19:05Speaker 01

  You know, and it was just such an unbelievable role model to have because there was never, no, you can't. That wasn't a vocabulary that was in my household growing up.

• 19:13Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  And my parents supported every whim. You know, you want to be a lawyer? Great. You want to be a naturalist? Great. You want to be a yoga teacher? Okay.

• 19:20Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 19:21Speaker 01

  And so they always gave me that foundation of like, I can succeed whatever I put my mind to.

• 19:27Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 19:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:29Lewis Howes?

  You ask this in your book. You ask people what makes them come alive. So I'm going to ask you, I'm sure people have been asking you this for a while now, but what makes you come alive?

• 19:36Speaker 01

  A lot, a lot. I think especially when I'm on the road and I'm around people, seeing people.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  Let me put it this way, what breaks my heart is seeing people act small. And so what really makes me come alive is seeing people, that spark, that ember being lit inside of them. And that little flicker of recognition that they can do what they actually want to do with their lives. Because I see so many people who sit on their talents or have no concept whatsoever of what they might be good at, or what they're excited about. And to me, I feel like a big purpose in life is knowing what you're passionate about, knowing what you're really good at, and then offering it to the world. Like, those are our gifts. So I think it's our duty to go out into the world and to own it and to be confident with it and to share that. Because when we can act that way, then we're encouraged on other people to do the same.

• 20:28Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure.

• 20:29Speaker 01

  And that creates a more connected, stronger, unified world. So, you know, I like being a unifier, I like being a connector, I love, I talk about finding your tribe in the book. And like, I don't like being competitive with other people. Like, I like competitiveness in the sense that I'll be like, "Oh, so you're on the New York Times bestselling list? I want to do that too." But not a competitiveness, it's like, okay, that's gonna amp me up, that's gonna get me excited. And so I really like helping people that I feel like they deserve that lift and they don't know how to get it on their own. So like, what can I do to support you? It's such a good feeling. And then to see those people succeed, it's just, it's really, really special.

• 21:09Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 21:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:10Lewis Howes?

  What do you think's missing from your life right now?

• 21:12Speaker 01

  Missing from my life? Sleep.

• 21:16Speaker 01

  You know, routine. I think that's the biggest thing that I miss right now. And I'm in the middle of promoting the book, which I knew was gonna be crazy. So I'm trying to find, I had beautiful advice given to me for something like this, when you go on the road, to always bring a piece of home with you. And that's what helps you. Stay focused when you're amongst all this chaos. So I brought my best friend with me.

• 21:39Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 21:39Speaker 01

  And my best friend.

• 21:40Lewis Howes?

  Is it?

• 21:41Speaker 01

  No, my friend Caroline.

• 21:42Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Caroline Shay. And she's, she's just amazing and she's, she's a bulldog.

• 21:49Lewis Howes?

  That's nice though, you have someone, you know, who's a friendly face, someone who feels like home.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. And she's basically turned into my tour manager. You know, she'll be in the crowd being like, "Time to wrap it up. We need to get to book signing, go, go."

• 21:59Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure, sure. That's great.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  And so it's great because at the end of the day, it's like we go into the hotel room and I've got my best friend there and I can just exhale and talk about whatever I need to. So that's been amazing because I miss, I miss waking up in my bed with my dogs. I miss going to my favorite coffee shop in Charleston and getting my avocado toast and getting my almond milk latte and, and walking outside and just, you know, those things. It's like, I miss my martial arts. I miss my regular yoga practice.

• 22:25Lewis Howes?

  Right, right, right.

• 22:25Speaker 01

  But I also know, nothing's permanent. Like this is just a time and place and it's crazy, but it's magical right now. And so I don't want to be like, "Oh, I can't wait to get back to routine because I'm going to miss it."

• 22:35Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure.

• 22:35Speaker 01

  So, I don't know. I don't know if I feel like I really have anything missing in my life because I think it's all here.

• 22:40Lewis Howes?

  Well, that's good.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  It's just attitude, right?

• 22:42Lewis Howes?

  Okay, yeah. What about practicing self-love? You know, there's a lot of people, I think, a lot of women, men do this too, but I think more so right now, women, at least in my experience, are doubting themselves a lot. I feel like doubt themselves, don't love themselves enough.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 22:59Lewis Howes?

  And again, maybe it's just my own opinion.

• 23:00Speaker 01

  No, yeah.

• 23:00Lewis Howes?

  That's what I'm feeling in the world is happening.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:03Lewis Howes?

  What would you say to women and men about how to practice self-love and how to, and the importance of it? Why should they be doing it in opposed to putting themselves down?

• 23:10Speaker 01

  Right. As someone who's totally been there before, I, I think, so there's this concept of attitude, right? And circumstance is a very real thing. And you know, the 90/10 theory, that 10% is what is legitimately happening. It's fact, you can't fight it.

• 23:27Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 23:28Speaker 01

  And then the rest of the pie is your perspective and how you decide. Yeah, right? So we've got this massive story that we're trying to get past. And the problem is if you're like constantly whipping out your little mini violin and talking about how bad your life is, you are perpetually putting yourself into a place of unhappiness.

• 23:45Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  It's like you dig that hole deeper and deeper and you just keep on jumping in. You're like, "Oh, it's so cozy at the bottom of the hole down here."

• 23:52Lewis Howes?

  Right, right, right.

• 23:52Speaker 01

  Love it. So it's, for me, at the end of the day, it's like, do you want to be happy? Such a simple question. Do you want to be happy? And I would dare say that most people would answer, yes, please. I would love to be happy. And obviously, it's not as simple as just, I'm gonna be happy today. But it kind of is too.

• 24:11Lewis Howes?

  Why do most people choose not to be happy then?

• 24:13Speaker 01

  Because it's habitual. It's totally habitual. And I think, like you said, there's a lot of insecurity. A lot of people don't think they're good enough to be happy. Like this weird, and you know, maybe that's an experience. Maybe it's what their, the parents or their upbringing, what they've been told is they're not good enough. So it's, coming back to the talents again, regardless of what your upbringing is, like, how can you realize, okay, this is what I've been given. This is my tool. This is something that no one can take away from me. This is what makes me uniquely me. And how can I use that? And it doesn't mean it needs to be fancy. It doesn't mean, like, you need to be an author selling a lot of books. It doesn't mean you need to have a phenomenal podcast. It can be something like, I am an unbelievable mother. I'm an unbelievable father. I am such a good listener, and my friends always call me,

• 24:56Speaker 01

  and I'm that person that can bring them back to a place of peace.

• 24:59Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  So, once you understand, like, it's not flashy. It's not like, put on your sparkly unitard and go out into the world to get noticed.

• 25:05Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  It's just understand what makes you really unique. And I think that's the path to getting back to a place that's happy. And especially if it's something, like, body image issues, like, that's so gnarly. You know, and I think, if you have a body, you've got issues at some point, right? Man, woman, everything.

• 25:22Lewis Howes?

  If you're alive, you've got issues.

• 25:23Speaker 01

  Right, this is just gonna happen, so...

• 25:25Lewis Howes?

  We're human beings, yeah.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  So you have to allow yourself to have these emotions, right? Like, give your emotions permission to live. You can't stifle them, because that's gonna get really scary and create resentment and cuckoo-ness. But, you know, like, okay, I don't feel good about the way I look today. Cool, I'm just gonna acknowledge that. But, I talk about this in the book, like, this is my meat suit. And so, this is a really fancy vessel that I've got that encompasses my soul. And, like, if you look at the people who love me, my friends, they don't love me because they think I'm ridiculously good-looking, right? They, they love me because I give them something as a friend that they can't get from someone else. And yet, it's so easy to get caught up in, I don't look good today. Oh, I, I look bad in this outfit. I look fat, I look too thin, I look whatever it is.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  And that's just such a superficial part of who we are. And I, I think it would be amazing if we could live in a world with no cameras and no mirrors. Can, can you imagine that?

• 26:19Lewis Howes?

  No selfies?

• 26:20Speaker 01

  No, so, I know.

• 26:21Lewis Howes?

  That'd be tough.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  Snapchat would be gone.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  But think about it, no mirrors, no reflective surfaces, no cameras. Cause think about, okay, so have you ever had one of those days where you get dressed and you're like, like, yes, I'm looking

• 26:34Lewis Howes?

  Fresh.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  Good, this is fresh. And then you see yourself tagged in a photo later that day and you're like, holy crap. Why didn't someone tell me that's what I look like? But meanwhile, you're like, mm, yeah, oh, looking good. But so that's your attitude.

• 26:48Lewis Howes?

  Not until the moment you see it.

• 26:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 26:50Lewis Howes?

  Where you're like, start self doubting or start.

• 26:52Speaker 01

  Exactly. Where it's like, how do you feel? And that's something I teach in the yoga room all the time. It's not about how you look, how do you feel? Like, that's why I don't want mirrors in a yoga room. I don't want you looking at yourself. How does it feel? Doesn't matter if you can touch your toes. Doesn't matter if you can do the full wrap. How does it feel? And if we can get back to a place like that, then aesthetics aren't important anymore. But that's a daily practice. That's not like you're gonna think about it once and be cured. This is something, you have to wanna feel better.

• 27:17Lewis Howes?

  Don't people feel better also when they know they look better too?

• 27:20Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure. And I mean, I'm in the health world, so I totally believe in, you know, physically taking care of yourself, eating well, exercising. And yeah, like, we all wanna look good. But what's the definition of looking good?

• 27:33Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  You know, and I see a lot of people trying to fit a mold that honestly, their body's just never gonna get there. I'm five foot two. I'm never gonna have the long legs that I wanna have. It ain't gonna happen. My torso is super duper duper short, never gonna stretch out. You know, that's what I would love. So I have to make peace with my shorter package and be like, this is, this is pretty good.

• 27:53Lewis Howes?

  I have a short girlfriend, she's five two.

• 27:55Speaker 01

  So, oh, you're all about it then?

• 27:56Lewis Howes?

  I'm all about the five two, so girls who are short have it made in my mind.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 28:03Lewis Howes?

  She'd be excited about that, yeah.

• 28:04Speaker 01

  It would love the five foot two bond.

• 28:06Lewis Howes?

  Exactly, there you go. Okay, cool. Now, how many classes do you think you've done, you've taught in yoga over your career?

• 28:14Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  Thousands.

• 28:17Lewis Howes?

  Thousands?

• 28:18Speaker 01

  Hundreds of thousands. I mean, so many classes.

• 28:20Lewis Howes?

  What's the average size, would you say? Twenty, thirty, fifty, ten?

• 28:25Speaker 01

  Uh, you know, when I was teaching in Los Angeles, classes would range from fifteen to sixty. You know, for public classes.

• 28:34Lewis Howes?

  You're doing multiple a day, I'm assuming.

• 28:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so depending on what time of day you were teaching.

• 28:41Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  And it's so easy to fall into the number game and feel like, oh, I'm more important if I have a lot of people in my class. When it's just like, teach a good class.

• 28:48Lewis Howes?

  Well, I'm curious, what um, what's the common theme that you always see, no matter what city you're in? Um, how many people are in the class? What's the common theme that you see, the biggest obstacle people face?

• 29:00Speaker 01

  Hmm, when they come into the yoga room? Uh, you know, I think if people don't know me well, they don't know what they're walking into and what to expect. And I think there's this preconceived notion with yoga that it's really serious. And a lot of teachers behave that way. So I think-

• 29:15Lewis Howes?

  It's like fun and-

• 29:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, and no, and I try to make people laugh immediately so they understand what they're getting into. Because I personally think that people succeed so much faster when they're laughing.

• 29:23Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 29:24Speaker 01

  So much faster. Because if you're not taking yourself so seriously, it allows you to be more open to falling down, to experiencing-

• 29:29Lewis Howes?

  Relaxed.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. And when you have a teacher hovering over you with their hot breath on top of you, like cracking the whip, it's a lot of pressure.

• 29:35Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, it is.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  It's a lot of pressure. And I've had teachers be very mean. Yeah.

• 29:40Lewis Howes?

  Holding your breath, yeah.

• 29:40Speaker 01

  And I don't respond well to people being mean to me. I don't like that. And you know, to each their own. Some of us want the whip, some of us want someone to like, hold us like a puppy dog. We all have our different needs. But I just find that, um, people really enjoy when they realize, wait, this is a safe place? Like, this is a place where I can laugh? And I get that compliment all the time. People come up and they're like, this is the most fun I've ever had in a yoga class. Thank you so much.

• 30:04Lewis Howes?

  That's great.

• 30:04Speaker 01

  Like, I didn't know that it's okay to laugh like this in a room. So, that to me almost is more important than the actual physical posture, is just giving people permission to enjoy themselves.

• 30:14Lewis Howes?

  Walk me through a forty-five or sixty-minute process in sixty seconds. Tell me, tell me the journey that people go through in-

• 30:22Speaker 01

  In a class.

• 30:23Lewis Howes?

  One class, in, in less than sixty seconds.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  Okay. Uh, you know, at the beginning of the class, for me, it's all about formulating intention for them. So, stopping before you begin. Like get into the room, let go of everything that's been going on. And then that's like the formulation of aim true, right? This is what I want. Unabashedly ask for what you want. And then you're going to take that request, that verbal tattoo that you want to put onto yourself and apply it to the physical asana. So we're going to move, we're going to breathe. And every single movement and breath that we take is going to be this reverberation of the intention that's been set. And ideally, you're going to fall on your butt, you're going to laugh, you're going to have moments of success, you're going to have moments of like, oh, my gosh, I'm such a beginner. And all of that's going to formulate the end where you get to lie down and just go, I let go, I surrender. You know, I've done my best, I've shown up, I've set my intention.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  Not only have I set my intention, like it is in me now, it's part of who I am. And that way, when they leave the room, it's like, game on.

• 31:15Lewis Howes?

  Hmm, I love it. What do you think's the biggest challenge people face? Is it the fear of looking bad or not doing it the right way?

• 31:22Speaker 01

  I think there's a lot, you know, for some people, it's ego, embarrassed, you know, they don't want to fall in front of people. And it's, I've experienced that too, where I've unrolled my mat next to like some Amazonian beautiful handstanding princess, where I'm like, for real?

• 31:35Lewis Howes?

  Perfect alignment.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  Oh, for real.

• 31:37Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  You know, and I pride myself on being a teacher, like, I'm just going to lie here in child's pose and cry about my lack of goodness today. So comparison is a beast, you know, that's always really, really tricky. And, um, you know, you get the overachievers, you get the type A personalities who don't know how to relax. And my duty as a teacher is to work people hard, but also get them to calm down. You know, get people to be okay with closing their eyes. Like, recognize that these five minutes of your life, you're not losing them. Like, the best thing that you can do to go back and be powerful in whatever it is you're doing, is to turn off for five minutes. Don't think, don't try to understand, don't try to remember, just cleanse yourself for a moment.

• 32:16Lewis Howes?

  Be vulnerable.

• 32:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. And that's, that's really hard for a lot of people. And I see people leave before shavasana and that kills me, it breaks my heart.

• 32:23Lewis Howes?

  Is that the end where you lay there?

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, and that's just two, two to five minutes where I'm like, there's no way. You don't have those five minutes that you can hang with me a little bit longer, that could dramatically change the rest of your day.

• 32:34Lewis Howes?

  How much of a comparison is yoga to real life?

• 32:38Speaker 01

  Um, very, you know, it's even if you look at the cycle of it, so you often start in a pose like child's pose, right? So here you are, your little embryo on your mat, like I've been born, I'm on a yoga mat. And then you go through this cycle with these intentions and you have beautiful moments in the practice and you have moments where you're like, this is heartbreaking, this is so frustrating. And then it cycles to shavasana, which means corpse. So the last pose is-

• 33:01Lewis Howes?

  On your back.

• 33:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, your corpse pose, which is the most natural cycle, right? What are we promised? As soon as we're born, eventually we'll die. So it's not morose, it's just this is the cycle of life. So we get this little lifetime, every single time we decide to practice yoga. And I particularly like teaching challenging poses, not because I want to see people sweat, but because how do you react to it? And that is so indicative of how you react with challenges off of the mat, right? Do you take a moment to figure it out? Are you kind of step back and observe? Or do you freak out and you get really rash and, you know, pout and pound your fists? And so, which I've done all of the above, but it's really helpful to go, okay, this is where I'm at today.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  Maybe I shouldn't go talk to that person that I'm pissed off with because I'm just gonna blow the lid and this is not gonna go over very well. Or if I've had a really solid practice, I'm like, alright, I'm ready to talk to that person. Like my mind is clear, I'm gonna say exactly what I want to say, no regrets. And so in that sense, I do think yoga should be for everyone.

• 34:00Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 34:01Speaker 01

  Because it's just, and I'm not talking fancy poses, but just if you can apply your intention and real life scenarios to these poses, it's amazing training wheels to get you to where you need to be.

• 34:11Lewis Howes?

  Why do you think yoga's taken off so much in the last five, 10 years? Well, there's studios everywhere now.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, it's fascinating because it's so trendy now and you can get yoga anywhere and you can get it online and, which is great. My concern is just that it's growing so rapidly that I don't feel like the quality is where I want it to be. But I think, you know, as social media expands and what we talked about earlier today, this idea of like people are getting more and more insecure, they need a venue to feel better. And I'm an athlete, like I love sports, any kind of sport makes me feel better. But yoga's especially amazing because like it's about intention setting and it's about staying true to what that intention is.

• 34:51Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  And you know, like I feel that way about martial arts too, where it's like constantly I have to be thinking, I'm always connecting everything together. It's a puzzle, it's a game. And it just yoga is one of those athletic endeavors that really connects the mind, body, and spirit. And you don't get that with everything. Like, I love basketball or playing soccer, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's spiritual for me when it's like, I'm gonna check you.

• 35:12Lewis Howes?

  It might be for someone else, though.

• 35:14Speaker 01

  Totally, totally. This is just more written out boldly that you're gonna get that.

• 35:21Lewis Howes?

  What's your biggest fear in your life?

• 35:22Speaker 01

  Biggest fear in my life? Losing people I love. I know I'll see them again, but, you know, my dog is turning 10. She's 10 going on, too. She's very, very hardy. She's amazing, but the concept of her not being in my life, I'm like, I'm gonna go with you. Take me with you.

• 35:38Lewis Howes?

  That's tough.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:40Lewis Howes?

  Why does she bring you so much joy?

• 35:41Speaker 01

  Uh, she's my little tiny guardian angel. She, uh, I got her when I was in LA, and she pulled me through some really dark, dark hours of my life. And she has this unbelievable ability when I'm stressed. It used to be like if I was just start using profanity, she would do this. And she would, you know, be lying to me immediately with her head around and be like, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. And now, we're so connected that I won't even say anything, it's just my heart rate will pick up. And she climbs on, and she's not a snuggly dog. And she'll climb on top of my chest.

• 36:12Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 36:13Speaker 01

  And it, to me, is just like, this is not worth your time. That's what she's saying. Like, this is, this stress is not worth your time. Let it go, let it go, let it go. It's unbelievable.

• 36:21Lewis Howes?

  That's pretty powerful.

• 36:22Speaker 01

  She's a very powerful little pup. But if I'm in a good mood, she's like, don't touch. I'm doing my own thing. No, no, no, just look.

• 36:28Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 36:29Speaker 01

  So she's, she's my angel.

• 36:31Lewis Howes?

  Amazing.

• 36:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:33Lewis Howes?

  That's pretty cool.

• 36:34Speaker 01

  Little Ashi.

• 36:35Lewis Howes?

  What's something you've done that you're really proud of that not many people know about?

• 36:40Speaker 01

  It, um, I'm really proud of my martial arts practice right now. And some people know that I'm doing it. I'm proud, I'm doing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Karate. And I'm especially proud of the Jiu-Jitsu because it's such a male-dominated world. And it's, pretty much every class I take is me and a bunch of big men. And I like knowing that I have what it takes to walk into that room and be like, bring it on.

• 37:05Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  I don't mind. You know, and it's this really, it's empowering. It's something that I'd love to see more women doing. Um, I also feel like really confident in a dark alley now. Like, I feel like I could defend, I could defend my friend's honor if I need to do or something like that. Um, and it just, you know, knowing your own strengths and knowing how to use your body. And yoga, same thing. Like, it really teaches you how to use your own body, but knowing like... I've got this. I understand how it works. I can protect myself.

• 37:29Lewis Howes?

  That's cool. I like that. And give me some tips or some strategies for practicing self-love. Like, what's a ritual that someone could do if they're like, "I'm always doubting myself. I don't have any confidence. I'm never able to get over the hump."

• 37:42Speaker 01

  I've got two, and they're both in the book. One, I learned from my friend Ash Saboka. And she said in the same way that when we do yoga, you start at the beginning of the mat. You normally join your hands together, like namaste. It's called anjale mudra. And you set intention. And so by the end of the practice, no matter how good or bad the practice was, you feel better. You just feel better. And so she said in the same way, we should be setting that intention as soon as we wake up. So she's like, "Where do you go first thing in the morning?" Like, "Go to the bathroom." She's like, "Yes, exactly." And you normally pass through a reflection, a mirror. And she said it's very common, first thing in the morning, to look in the mirror and have this conversation with yourself of like, "Whoa, oh, I need to fix this. Oh, that's gonna take a lot of work." So you're basically saying something-

• 38:25Lewis Howes?

  I'm exhausted.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Like, "Oh, my eyes are so poppy, dah dah dah dah dah." So basically, you're saying something negative to yourself first thing in the morning. And I'd never even thought about it that way. And she's like, "That's a really bad way to start your day." So her advice was to take a Sharpie or a marker, and on your bathroom mirror, write some form of positive affirmation. So before you go into the habitual negative self-talk, as soon as you look in the mirror, you're confronted with this statement. And, you know, make it personal. And so it's not gonna fix all your problems, but it's that split second where you stop and you go, "Wait a second. That's me. Like, that is the real me, and that's who I am, and that's how I wanna continue to feel."

• 39:02Lewis Howes?

  I like that.

• 39:02Speaker 01

  So when I had body image issues in LA, I had on my mirror, "You are perfect. You are beautiful. You are not your body." And I just needed that constant reminder, like, "I am not this meat suit. Like, I am so much more than this, and I'm not gonna be attached to what that means to me." And it was powerful. It was really, really helpful. And then I just switch it up according to... You know, I'm going through tons of transition in my life right now, and I have on my mirror, you know, "Every day is a new opportunity to create a new happy ending." And it's just a constant reminder of like, "Nothing's set in stone. I've got this. Like, I can always reshape it."

• 39:34Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  And that's been pretty magical for me.

• 39:37Lewis Howes?

  I like that. That's beautiful.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:38Lewis Howes?

  Uh, final few questions.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  Oh, boy.

• 39:42Lewis Howes?

  What are you most grateful for in your life recently?

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Um, I'm, gosh, that's a long list, actually. I'm really grateful for my voice. And I'm grateful for the teachers who gave me permission to use it. And, and who told me I had one. You know, I, I, I was a shy little girl, growing up, and, and I had some really impressive, inspiring people tell me, you have a message to share, and you need to do it. And so, I'm grateful for my confidence, I'm grateful for my voice, I'm grateful for the people who take the time to listen, and, and it's just, anytime I see, even people reading the book now and sending me messages saying how the book is helping them, it just, my heart bursts a little bit every time I read those messages, because it's like, okay,

• 40:30Speaker 01

  my purpose is being served, you know, like, I can go to bed and pat myself and, and start all over again. It's really incredibly grateful for that.

• 40:38Lewis Howes?

  That's nice.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:40Lewis Howes?

  This is a question I asked at the end, it's called the three truths question.

• 40:43Speaker 01

  Oh, bring it.

• 40:44Lewis Howes?

  So, if it's the last day for you, many, many years from now.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  Oh, my, my last day ever?

• 40:49Lewis Howes?

  Last day ever.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  Oh dang.

• 40:50Lewis Howes?

  You're about to see your doggy, all your doggies.

• 40:53Speaker 01

  Which is still with me, she's like the longest living dog ever, you mean?

• 40:56Lewis Howes?

  All the doggies you've ever had for years will all be there, ready for you. And, um, all your books and every DVD and thing you've ever created has been erased, for whatever reason.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  Oh wow, so I'm like, gone, gone?

• 41:06Lewis Howes?

  Everything's been gone, everything's been erased, from, from the internet, from time, everything. And it's just you, and all your friends and family are there, and joyful moment, but they said, we don't have this book anymore, we don't have anything that you've ever created to be, to remember you by.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  So I'm not like, doing a book signing on my deathbed?

• 41:23Lewis Howes?

  No, no, no, no. But you have a piece of paper.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 41:26Lewis Howes?

  And they say, we want you to write down the three things you know to be true about everything you've learned in life. And this will be the only message that you get to share with us, three simple truths. What would you write down?

• 41:36Speaker 01

  Oh, you, you're going real light with this one, real light.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  The three things I know to be true.

• 41:43Speaker 01

  You can always recreate yourself. One. Which goes along in line with, you can always recreate yourself, there's always time to recreate your happy ending. Two, you're your own author. You are the storyteller. Create this world, create this life. You have the power to wield whatever that is for you. And three, never settle. There's so much magic and love and don't settle. And yeah, yeah, plain and simple, don't settle.

• 42:15Lewis Howes?

  Was there a fourth or something?

• 42:16Speaker 01

  No, I was just gonna elaborate, but I think just don't settle. Hits home.

• 42:20Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, okay. And before I ask the final question, I want to make sure everyone goes and gets this book. It's called Aim True. You can also follow Catherine everywhere online, CatherineButtig.com, but also CatherineButtig on

• 42:31Speaker 01

  Right, my handles are at CatherineButtig, yeah.

• 42:33Lewis Howes?

  So make sure to check this out, whatever linked up in the show notes after this as well. Before I ask the final question, Catherine, I want to acknowledge you for being a beautiful voice.

• 42:41Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you.

• 42:42Lewis Howes?

  And for sharing your gift with the world, because there's so many people that show up in yoga classes that need to hear the message you're sharing and need to go through that experience. And that you continue to show up in a powerful way, that five-two, all the might inside of

• 42:56Speaker 01

  you. I'll five foot two of me.

• 42:58Lewis Howes?

  To show up and be a stand for people's balance and for their grace and for them finding their true voice themselves and aiming true. I want to acknowledge you for continually, consistently stepping up and being a stand for others.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 43:14Lewis Howes?

  And the final question is, what's your definition of greatness?

• 43:17Speaker 01

  Oh, I was wondering when that was gonna come. I'm like, I'm waiting, I'm waiting. My definition of greatness is owning your power unabashedly and putting it out to the world regardless of the opinions of others. And that is great.

• 43:33Lewis Howes?

  Catherine Buttig, thanks for being here.

• 43:36Speaker 01

  Lewis.

• 43:37Lewis Howes?

  Appreciate it.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 43:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, of course. There you have it, my friends. Thank you so much for joining me today. Such a pleasure connecting with Catherine. Make sure to check out more of her information back at LewisHowes.com/315. Again, if you're on the iTunes app or the podcast app on your phone, just click on the little share button with your friends and post it on Facebook and Twitter and let me know what you think. I appreciate you guys, I love you. You know what time it is. It's time to go out there and do something great.