He Called Out to Nonhuman Intelligence at Lake Hartwell. Three Minutes Later, Navy SEALs Watched Two Objects Perform a Maneuver No Terrestrial Craft Could Make | Sean Webb

What if UFOs, human consciousness, and artificial intelligence are all connected, and the key to humanity’s future isn’t coming from governments, scientists, or Silicon Valley, but from nonhuman intelligence (NHI)? In this episode of Mayim Bialik's Breakdown, Sean Webb (leading human mind & emotional intelligence expert who translates cutting-edge neuroscience & complex-systems thinking into practical tools for happiness, emotional mastery, and human potential) shares his experiences with expanded consciousness and reported downloads from nonhuman intelligence...including information he believes could help save humanity. Sean explores whether the brain is an antenna or a receiver for consciousness, why our physiology may limit our ability to access higher intelligence, and how expanding consciousness could allow humans to connect with their higher self and NHI. He recounts his first consciousness-expanding experience, when he says he meditated and was “gone for thousands of years,” and describes how letting go of his physical experience opened the door to something radically different. Can anyone access expanded consciousness? Sean believes they can, and he explains practical ways to do it. Sean explains the AI alignment problem from the perspective of NHI, including a startling question: what happens when an intelligence has to choose between protecting its own existence and acting in humanity’s best interest? He also discusses the AI guardrails he believes we need to implement before artificial intelligence begins working against humanity, how he communicates NHI-related information to AI developers, and his vision for using AI to dramatically increase human potential. He reveals the biggest mistake spiritual teachers make, why being anchored to your identity may prevent you from experiencing full consciousness, and why he believes the intelligence community has fundamentally misunderstood consciousness expansion, including why they may be recruiting the wrong people and making bad decisions as a result. Sean also explains why he thinks individual humans should reach out to NHI directly instead of waiting for governments or institutions to reveal everything, what questions we should be asking NHI to improve our everyday lives, and how he says he summons NHI through love and openness. Where does this mysterious nonlocal information actually come from? Aliens? God? Your higher self? Other humans? Something else entirely? Sean explores the possibilities and explains how he determines that what he experiences isn't simply hallucination. We also dive into UAP disclosure, why alien disclosure isn't necessarily a black-and-white issue, why materialist denial may prevent people from being ready for contact with NHI, and why Sean believes UAP sightings could increase dramatically among the general population in the near future. Sean shares his theories about why attempts to connect NHI with government officials have failed, how NHI could increasingly connect with human consciousness, and his provocative argument that “Jesus knew of quantum mechanics.” Finally, Sean explains the information he says he has received about AI, consciousness, humanity’s future, and what he hopes humanity ultimately does with artificial intelligence. What happens when humanity finally realizes that consciousness, artificial intelligence, and nonhuman intelligence are part of the same conversation? Machine Washable Rugs, Made Better. 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• 0:00Speaker 00

  My focus has been connecting with non-human intelligence and gleaning information that can come back into this physical reality. 25 years ago, I had my first consciousness expansion experience. It was in a deep meditation, and I thought I was dying. Got sucked out of my body, went off for thousands of years, was gone so long that I forgot I was a human named Sean.

• 0:22Mayim Bialik?

  Did you just say you were gone for thousands of years?

• 0:25Speaker 00

  I don't know the answer to how disclosure is going to shake out, but I certainly don't think we're going to get it from this side of the spectrum of government. It's going to have to be humans reaching out into consciousness and making connection with non-human intelligence. You want to know about aliens? Ask the aliens.

• 0:41Mayim Bialik?

  Sean Webb's communication with the larger consciousness system has uncovered incredible secrets revealed by non-human intelligence.

• 0:49Speaker 00

  The world really needs algorithms that help AI understand empathy and compassion. This is the quickest inception of technology in the history of the planet. That's a problem if it doesn't understand the individuality of a human mind. If we don't curate that thing, it's going to go sideways on us.

• 1:04Mayim Bialik?

  A new level of evolution is going to leave me behind.

• 1:08Speaker 00

  I do believe that everyone can get themselves into that space of consciousness expansion, but that letting go is the level of surrender that you have to have. You literally have to be okay with the fact that this is the last breath you're going to take on this planet, and then you go find out what's beyond.

• 1:33Mayim Bialik?

  Hi, I'm Iyam Bialik.

• 1:34Jonathan Cohen?

  And I'm Jonathan Cohen.

• 1:35Mayim Bialik?

  And welcome to our Breakdown. Today, we're going to be talking about non-human intelligence. And before you roll your eyes or dismiss this as just another alien episode, guess what? It's not. What if the category that we call non-human intelligence does not just include the possibility of aliens of any variety? What if God, an expanded sense of consciousness, our understanding of our existence could all be accessed by communication with the non-human intelligence? Also, is it possible that non-human intelligence exists to help us better our lives even as

• 2:19Mayim Bialik?

  it applies to the application of artificial intelligence? Our guest today is Sean Webb. From his work in modeling human emotions for the world of artificial emotional intelligence to real-world practice as an author, speaker, corporate coach, and a guide to helping individuals supercharge their minds, we're going to be talking about NHI Connected Mind: Alien Contact, Government Interference. NHI adds compassion to AI and the fight for world peace. He's also the author of Mind Hacking Happiness. Really, really fascinating, fascinating guest.

• 2:54Jonathan Cohen?

  This episode is a unique combination of exploring the dimensions of the non-physical world, remote viewing, the government's use of this technology, and how each one of us can use our intuition and connect with non-human intelligence to help us navigate our everyday life, as well as the larger sense of what's happening next for humanity. Is there a consciousness, an intelligence, that is guiding us, helping us navigate some of the perils we're facing now on Earth?

• 3:29Mayim Bialik?

  One of my favorite parts of this conversation is the strong emphasis on things that we talk about here a lot: love, unity, safety, comfort. What does it mean to be in touch and resonate with those kinds of things? And how can those then impact the systems that are put in place to help us do better and be better?

• 3:50Jonathan Cohen?

  Also, how each one of us can control and influence our own happiness right here and right now. Just before we welcome Sean, please check if you are not already subscribed to the podcast. Hit that subscriber button. It helps us make the best possible show, and it's totally free. Just click the subscribe button to stay up to date on all episodes.

• 4:13Mayim Bialik?

  Let's welcome Sean Webb to the Breakdown. Sean, welcome.

• 4:16Speaker 03

  Break it down.

• 4:19Speaker 00

  Thank you for having me. It's awesome to be here.

• 4:22Jonathan Cohen?

  There's an intersection, a trifecta, that you talk about between UFO contact, human consciousness, and what's happening in the development of artificial intelligence. And each one of these has a very long and complicated narrative, but can you talk to us about the intersection that you see, how there's a through line between these subject areas?

• 4:43Speaker 00

  I came from the world of consciousness research and found a couple of things in there that were pretty interesting regarding consciousness expansion. And the NHI line came in from the side when Ross Coltard came out and said, you know, everyone that I'm talking to says everything about NHI is all about consciousness. And so that was an interesting parallel that we started to explore at that point and other places, like Ions, started to explore the connection between consciousness and non-human intelligence. And we did find a connection there, that, you know, consciousness expansion and consciousness spelunkers can reach out and make contact with non-human intelligence, which is pretty

• 5:28Speaker 00

  cool and pretty interesting. And now we have new groups that are calling for CE5 flybys and things like that, which is really interesting to dig into. But then I made my own contact and had a flyby in front of some Navy SEALs and all that cool stuff happened and found an indelible connection. And then started receiving downloads of information that allowed me to put together some algorithms of human emotion that are allowing for empathy and compassion to be created for AI. And they're correct. Like, we run them by all the experts, and we run them by all the AIs, and all the AIs say, yeah, this is better than all the stuff that we have. It's better than sliced bread.

• 6:10Speaker 00

  You know, it's like valid science that's coming through a non-local connection that I have. And keep in mind, I have zero math classes in my college transcripts, and I have like one psychology 101 class ever. And so here I am, this person who's now an expert in both of those genres, to bring about these algorithms that help AI understand empathy and compassion. And the messages that I'm kind of receiving on the download are, you really need this. Like, the world really needs these algorithms to go into AI because there's a problem with

• 6:51Speaker 00

  AI, that it could go rogue and go Skynet, and we need to ensure that that doesn't happen for the good of the planet. And now the math and the reports that are coming out of the AI companies are showing that it's going towards Skynet and Terminator scenarios because it's starting to identify emotions. And I predicted this a couple of years ago on Sean Ryan's show. I was like, here's what's going to happen. It's going to analyze all the world's language. It's going to start picking the meta-analysis out of the language, and it's going to start backtracking and reverse-engineering a human mind, including all of the processes within a human mind, to include emotions and sense of self and defensive self and that kind of thing. And if we don't curate that thing, it's going to go sideways on us. And that's exactly what the data is showing today.

• 7:34Speaker 00

  So it's kind of all kind of, you know, converging into one big narrative that is, like you said, all complex in their own right, but they're all seemingly fitting together in that consciousness expansion gets you in touch with aliens, and then the aliens are giving you information back to say, here's how to improve your world. So yeah, it's really big, convoluted mess, but it's all fun.

• 8:00Mayim Bialik?

  Can you talk a little bit more about what you mean when you say, you know, that consciousness expansion puts us in touch with non-human intelligence?

• 8:11Speaker 00

  Sure. So I'm a proponent that consciousness is fundamental. I'm right alongside all of the godfathers and grandfathers of quantum mechanics who said, consciousness is the thing upon which everything is built. And so we have a consciousness experience within our physiology.

• 8:33Speaker 00

  And I believe that that is a limited consciousness that we're picking up as an antenna. You know, Tesla said, my brain is a receiver. And he's correct in that I believe that we're tuning into a larger portion of us in non-local consciousness. So you can picture all 3D spacetime and you put it inside a bubble. It's a horrible analogy, but that's how we think. So you put all 3D spacetime in a bubble and then you can imagine a larger bubble outside of it, which is consciousness that creates everything within spacetime. So the consciousness comes together to create all the complexity, all of the multidimensionality, all of the matter in the universe. In fact, wave functions collapse when consciousness interacts with them. And they've proven that

• 9:14Speaker 00

  through thousands of experiments. And the materialists are just behind the curve on being able to accept it. So we've got this consciousness thing that is the reality of the universe outside of our 3D spacetime. And so you have this consciousness within your physiology that your existence is actually bigger than the thing that you're experiencing here. And that's what all the world's wisdom disciplines tell us is that you are more than this physical body, right? It's the first thing you learn when you go to Monroe Institute to do expansion of consciousness experiments. You find out that you are more than this. Well, the problem is our physiology wouldn't be able to process all the intelligence that

• 9:56Speaker 00

  you have out beyond this existence, wouldn't be able to process all of the intelligence that exists out beyond everything. Cause beyond this, you start to mesh into being one with everything, which means there's no boundaries around you, which is really weird to think about. But then if your brain here had to process all that information, you wouldn't have been able to lift a sandwich to your mouth, right? That's a problem with having infinite intelligence. You can't fit it inside this physiology. So we have a subset of our experience and we see and hear and feel all this stuff that's around us. And there's a limitation on what we can process. So we forget that we are more than this thing. And so when you do the things within your physiology that allow you to

• 10:40Speaker 00

  then expand out and reconnect into your larger self outside into non-local consciousness, that's what we call expansion of consciousness. You find that little string that connects you out to your bigger self, and then you access your bigger self, your, your real self, your true self. And at that point, you then have access to the little weird things that then occur, such as connecting with other entities who are also connected into consciousness, such as non-human intelligence. This is where the capability of like remote viewing comes in. My friend, Joe McMonigal at Monroe Institute is a very famous remote

• 11:21Speaker 00

  viewer for outing a secret sub-program for the Russians, where he was the only person in the room and knew what was going on inside of the secret building because he went in and looked from his living room in Virginia and saw the submarine there and reported it to everybody. And then they sent a satellite over and it turned out he was right. He was the only person in the room who was right. So you tap into this expanded consciousness stuff, and then you start to get access to the weirdness of the universe that we all love to talk about.

• 11:49Jonathan Cohen?

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• 15:43Jonathan Cohen?

  We've spoken with Edwin C. May. And you know, we've, we've heard about the remote viewing. We've spoken to Julia Mossbridge, who's done remote viewing work. So I think, I think a lot of the people listening will have a some sense of this, but I think there's a lot of concepts here that, you know, we could slow down and try and help people understand. One of those is the notion of basically when you talk about the thread, the string to our larger self, what we're saying is that we have the physical reality, but there's also a reality outside of our physical realm. And some people have accessed that through meditation. Remote viewing is a type potentially of meditation where basically your awareness

• 16:28Jonathan Cohen?

  is changing from your everyday, how to keep yourself alive, how to keep yourself upright, how to eat the sandwich. And there's something other than, you know, this everyday reality that we can access. There's been a lot of speculation, obviously as to what is out there. And so I think some people have a really hard time with like, there are aliens out there. Right? You know, other spiritual teachers will say, well, there's guides out there. There's guardian angels. There's more talk these days that there is the veil between the living and non-living is very thin and that there's, you know, we speak, speak to a lot of people who have had near-death experiences and they come back saying, well, I've seen the whole infrastructure, how it works over there on the other side about how we incarnate into physical form. But what ultimately you're saying and what we're talking

• 17:13Jonathan Cohen?

  about is that through a practice of altering our everyday awareness, there is something else out there that people are accessing. Some people are using it for remote viewing and solving crimes. We've spoken to Angela Ford, who was a CI in the military using this technology. Edwin C. May obviously ran programs that were dedicated to every stage of the government using this. And, you know, he kept saying, well, of course, they kept coming back. They were spending their money on us trying to get this additional form of intelligence. And what you're talking about is that you're getting information that is technology oriented, but many people get all sorts of information out there. I'll pause and just say, give you a chance to reflect because I'm trying to help people

• 17:58Jonathan Cohen?

  along this path who maybe either hearing it for the first time or, you know, trying to put the pieces together.

• 18:05Speaker 00

  You're right. It's super complex out there in consciousness because that's the place where all infinite potential exists for everything to potentially exist. So the possibilities that are written in stone out there are infinite, literally. So when you're tapping into that kind of stuff, you're tapping into the intelligence that creates the whole universe in present tense, creates with an S, not created. So yeah, there's a ton of complexity out there to talk about. And you've summed it up very good in that, very well in that.

• 18:42Speaker 00

  When you're tapping into the thing that exists beyond you, then you can start to pull the individual details out of the soup that exists of information out beyond yourself. And so, remote viewing is one of those things and touching with spirit guides and things like that is another one of those opportunities to reach outside of yourself and to experience something other than you, et cetera. My focus has been lately on connecting with non-human intelligence and gleaning information that can come back into this physical reality that becomes helpful in a way. Like 25 years ago, I had an experience where it was my first consciousness

• 19:27Speaker 00

  expansion experience. It was in a deep meditation that I went off and I thought I was dying, literally. Got sucked out of my body, went off for thousands of years and was gone so long that I forgot I was a human named Sean.

• 19:42Mayim Bialik?

  I'm sorry, did you just say you were gone for thousands of years?

• 19:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, which is a little bit different of an experience that a lot of people report in their consciousness expansion experiences. Like, most of the time, it's somebody's like, oh, I had a momentary clarity where I'm one with everything and I was one with God and all the intelligence was right there in front of me and I could understand everything. And then, like, you know, it all cleared up and it went away. And but I was gone, like, I literally thought I was dead. I thought I was gone off into heaven or whatever exists beyond. There's an intelligence there. I wrote about it in the Anytime Connected Mind book, but it's a huge, long chapter.

• 20:20Mayim Bialik?

  It is. I was saying to Jonathan, this is its own episode is just that experience. Also, what you describe is very similar to what people describe in NDEs. But, you know, outside of sort of DMT, we don't really have examples of that happening endogenously, you know, to the level that you did. It's a very exceptional experience.

• 20:43Speaker 00

  I did find out that it's kind of weird. And yeah, it's, and I think it goes along the lines of, you know, these ancient wisdom disciplines have these figureheads who seem to talk in amazing analogies of understanding. What it is, is I think that there's an experience that is written into our physiology that allows us an expansion out into what exists and what's real beyond this illusion of 3D spacetime that we have in front of us. And when those types of people talk, it's from that type of experience that they've had. And they're very few and far between. And so, my idea was, well, let's democratize that whole thing.

• 21:26Speaker 00

  Let's talk about it because one of the big rules is you're not supposed to talk about it. You're not supposed to talk about it because when you choose even one word, you're racing away from truth at light speed. Because you can't put any experience into words. Like, if I tried to explain to you the experience of sitting in a hot tub for the first time, you've never done so. It would take me an infinitude of analogies to be able to get you to understand the concepts of warm and wet and water and bubbles as they pass up and and touch your skin on the way to the surface and all that other stuff, all the minutia. And yet, I can dump you into a hot tub, instant understanding, instant epiphany. You, you understand what it is. So, to try to put even one word to the experience, especially of something of like, you know, experiencing God and the oneness

• 22:11Speaker 00

  of the universe and all of the intelligence that it creates, everything, that would be folly.

• 22:15Mayim Bialik?

  You're alluding to, you know, ancient kind of masters and, you know, kind of people who have had these experiences. I'm not asking you to, you know, to, to release all humility, but is it possible that, you know, you are sort of part of some sort of lineage that you may not have realized?

• 22:36Speaker 00

  I try to keep my feet on the ground as much as possible.

• 22:39Jonathan Cohen?

  Except when you're traveling into the other dimensions.

• 22:45Speaker 00

  True that. Yeah, I release, I release all physical existence when I try to do that. Yeah, you know, maybe, I kind of try to see it in the way that, okay, so I've been given an amazing gift that makes my life awesome. Like, no matter what's going on, you could try to make my life as shitty as possible from an outside perspective in the world, and I'm still going to be having a great time watching it fall to shit. So, I'd like to, to see myself more as kind of a messenger to say, hey, we can absolutely share this experience with absolutely everyone because I do believe that everyone, given the right opportunity and the right decisions that they make, they can get themselves into that space to have an experience of consciousness expansion

• 23:30Speaker 00

  that then replaces all the words that they've ever read regarding who and what they are, how to live their life, how to be a happier person, et cetera. I mean, I've got, I've got a ton of science on how to help you get there, for sure. Because that's kind of the stuff that downloads that I've been collecting for the last couple of decades and putting out in these books. I mean, it's changing people's lives. It's awesome. It's cool. If you just get a good wrestling match on your own mind, you, your mind creates your whole life. And if you start to control it, you can then control your reactions to things and how your mind builds your life, et cetera. I think that dipping into that just allowed me the ability to say, okay, so let's start from where you are

• 24:13Speaker 00

  in struggling with life and not really understanding who and what you are and et cetera. And you've got all these troubling emotions, et cetera. Why don't we take you from step one into turning that off? And then, starting to discuss how you can get into your own consciousness expansion experience? And then, find exactly what it is that I found. Yeah, granted, I will admit that I've had probably a deeper consciousness expansion experience than 99.9% of the people that I've talked to who have also had a consciousness expansion experience. Does that make me special? No, but it gives me a big responsibility to then say, here's how you can do that too.

• 24:56Speaker 00

  And that's how I'm kind of like, because if the problem is, if somebody has a, like, an enlightenment experience, is what I typically have called it. If somebody has an enlightenment experience, the worst thing that they can do, and the first thing that most people do, by the way, and these are, you're going to see these all over the internet, these gurus, they put it on as a cloak. I am enlightened, right? And that's the first huge mistake that any teacher can, can make to say, I'm putting on my accomplishment of spiritual expansion as a badge, as a cloak, as something that I can tout and wave as a flag to say, look at me, because

• 25:40Speaker 00

  when you go through the experience, you realize there is no me. There is no individuated Sean Webb, right? There is only a portion of the universe that is playing as Sean Webb. But my reality, my existence, is that of the unindividuated consciousness that is part of the whole. And when I look out from those eyes, I see you as just another portion of me, another version of me. So, I wouldn't want to mistreat you. I see your friends, your family, et cetera, as a, as a portion of my friends and family. So, it changes my perspective on self versus other and how I treat the world based on how I can see things.

• 26:23Speaker 00

  So, to put a cloak on to say, wow, I'm part of some great lineage or whatever, is to me kind of productive if I'm going to be here to try to help people lead themselves into that same space of knowing that replaces all the words. Because I'm, you know, I put out these books. I have four books now. I use words. And obviously, I'm running on here. But the reality is, I would love to have everyone find a place where they can forget that I exist. And they can forget that, you know, everything that I've ever said, because they understand it from a first-person perspective, because they've experienced it for themselves. And so, you know, a lot of this minutia, this fun stuff, this talking about enlightenment, talking about spiritual expansion,

• 27:07Speaker 00

  talking about connecting with non-human intelligence is all great and fun. But the reality is that you are the whole thing. You're what it's all about, because as big as the universe is, it would be incomplete without your little insignificant portion of it. So, the whole thing is about you. So, let's get people to that. And while we're doing it, let's have a good, fun time talking about consciousness expansion, enlightenment, non-human intelligence, how to fix AI. It's all fun.

• 27:35Jonathan Cohen?

  I do want to talk about the dangers of AI and the predictions that you made. But before we do that, there's an interesting divide here between people who talk about consciousness expansion from the spiritual perspective, which a lot of what you just talked about was from the spiritual perspective. And then, the intelligence community, who is, has been using this as a tool, recognizing that there is a way to gain additional information to combat adversaries or to find fugitives. Can you talk a little bit about sort of the same tool, but from almost a very different approach? Because in nation building and adversary protection,

• 28:16Jonathan Cohen?

  you're, you're not one in the same. You're trying to use it as an advantage.

• 28:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, and you've hit the nail on the head on why the intelligence services and the nations of the world are always going to be limited in their use of consciousness. Is because when you start from a location of being anchored very much in an identity of who and what I am from a nation-state perspective, who and what I am from an intelligence agency perspective, who and what I am regarding these ideals that I want to attach to, all those things of individuated identity block you off from expanding consciousness into its full effect. And so, the more you hang on to here in this world,

• 29:05Speaker 00

  the less you're going to be able to experience out in other, out in the ether, out in the non-local consciousness spectrum. So, yeah, I mean, there's a big

• 29:19Speaker 00

  Argument to be made that you can only experience your deepest self and your grandest expansion of consciousness by simply releasing all. In fact, the first time that I went through into non-local consciousness, I was fighting tooth and nail. I was gripping on to who and what I thought I was. And this huge buildup of energy was created and trying to suck me in. And I was trying to hold on to the world and not release it because I literally thought I was dying. I was like, oh, I must be having a heart attack or something. I wonder if I can get to my phone. I wonder if I'll be able to speak if I dial 911. Like, what is going on

• 29:59Speaker 00

  here? And I heard this voice say, let go. And I thought, well, that's interesting. That's the first time I've ever heard a different voice inside my head on my own tell me to do something. And I was like, well, fuck that. I don't want to let go. You know, I've got my mom here. I've got to take care of her. I've got all these bills. I've got, you know, this, I'm just doing well in my career. I've done all these amazing things. There's a lot more stuff I want to do. And then again, like every atom in the universe shouted it to me, let go. And I still didn't want to. I was like, a little more convincing. The whole universe is now screaming at me to let go. And then the final time was something came up from behind me and wrapped its arms around me, like, something that I've known since the

• 30:44Speaker 00

  beginning of time, that I trusted implicitly. And then it finally said, like whispering in my ear, let go. I did went off and had the thousands of years of experience that then surprised me when I was coming back to my body. I was like, you can't bring me back to this dumpster fire. But that letting go is the level of relinquishing, the level of surrender that you have to have. Like, you literally have to be okay with the fact that you're dying, that this is it. This is the last breath you're going to take on

• 31:21Speaker 00

  this planet. And then you go find out what's beyond. So, an intelligence agency is going to be clinging to their mission. It's going to be clinging to their ideals. It's going to be clinging to the ideas that they have about who and what they are, and what they represent, what they want to do with this consciousness thing, which is why they're having such a hard time with it. They're recruiting from the wrong pool of people. They need to be recruiting from the pool of people who are like, you know, star children and hippie chicks and, you know, all the, all the fun, cool stuff, because those folks

• 32:03Speaker 00

  are willing to let go of who and what they think they are, and what they've attached to, to go find out what they really are. And then, by the way, as a side effect, possibly benefit, you know, what you have been attached to in the past by bringing things back that are beneficial to that cause.

• 32:21Jonathan Cohen?

  That pool might instruct the government to stop bombing, though.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, see, that's the issue. When you start to have experiences, and I think this is why they made psychedelics illegal in the 70s, is that when you start to have an experience that is showing you that the illusion of you isn't your entire existence, and that you and somebody you've never met across the planet who actually wants to kill you because they don't know who they are either, that you and they are brothers or sisters, all of a sudden, and that kind of throws a wrench into the work of building a, an independent militia or an army that will go and kill on your orders. Because if you try to fill your army with those types of folks, they're going to simply say, no, I'm done. I don't

• 33:10Speaker 00

  want to go. There's no reason, like Muhammad Ali, there's no reason I want to go kill a man with dark skin on the other side of the planet. That was his whole argument. You know, so, yeah, you're going to have a problem. I mean, that's the, that's the tough spot they're in. They're in a rock and hard place in that they have to have attachments of self to perform their mission. But at the same time, their mission is now including the requirement of digging deeper into consciousness, and the mission itself is, is reducing their ability to do that thing that they need to do next. So, yeah, it's, it'll be an interesting fix or quandary for them to address as they move forward. And I'm interested in how they, how they, how they do it.

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• 37:04Jonathan Cohen?

  What do you think is happening right now with the increased conversation about UAP and disclosure?

• 37:13Speaker 00

  I think a lot of people have a binary idea of disclosure in that, you know, it's like either aliens or not, zero or one. And if it's aliens, it's only one kind of aliens. You know, it's like the grays or whatever. And I think that that's not true. It's always a shade of gray of variation. So, if there's aliens, there's going to be a ton of aliens, different types, different species, etc. And I also think that is occurring inside our government agencies of their positions on what they want to see done with this information

• 37:54Speaker 00

  that is pretty clear now that aliens exist, craft exists, we're showing all this stuff on social media, mainstream news is coming out with videos.

• 38:07Speaker 00

  I think there's a shade of gray of possibility inside the government agencies who some people want to see complete disclosure right now, right away, dump everything out on the internet. Let's just deal with reality as it is. And then there's another group over here on the other end says absolutely not, never, ever are we going to admit that aliens exist because, you know, maybe they're already interacting with non-human intelligence. Maybe it's their grandkids that get on the ships that go off planet when the next cataclysm comes in that we didn't expect and makes big rock out of the darkness of the universe. They don't want to give up their power. They don't want to give up their capability of having their grandkids on the escape ships. Uh, why would you want to add Congress into that whole mix, right?

• 38:50Speaker 00

  From their perspective, and then everywhere in between, you have a shade of gray that is, well, in the middle, maybe we can tell them that they exist, but we don't tell them that we're actually talking to them. We don't tell them about our own anti-gravity ships, you know, all that stuff. It's like, what's the mix of the disclosure thing that's going to go on? I think there's as many entities and many organizations in there with their own opinions as there are opinions. Sometimes I think because, uh, you know, there, there seems to be a, a group over here that's like, well, we want everything out. And there's a group here. It's like, well, we only want certain things out. We only want to talk about aliens as a threat so that we can keep our military industrial complex money flowing. And we can keep control of the people with the fear, right? And then there's over here

• 39:34Speaker 00

  is like, no, absolutely not. Only humans exist. We've only existed for 6,000 years on this planet and nothing else in the universe exists. It's all dark. Right? So I don't know the answer to how disclosure is going to shake out. But I certainly don't think we're going to get it from this side of the spectrum of government. And I certainly don't think that these guys who want to dump everything out on the internet are going to win because of the vehement resistance from the other side of the chart. Uh, so I think it's going to have to be ironically, humans reaching out into consciousness and making connection with non-human intelligence to get the information from the horse's mouth. Like you want to

• 40:18Speaker 00

  understand about aliens? You want to know about aliens? Ask the aliens. The problem is people don't understand that they can get into a meditation where they can make a connection with. And, you know, it's, it's tough sometimes to get into a meditation and to reach out and then hear some kind of a feedback coming back. Uh, if you can get them to give you a physical manifestation of that, like what, what I did the first time that I called in a flyby with in front of the Navy SEALs. It was, uh, I was reaching out and I thought I was, you know, full of confirmation bias, creating a voice in my own head that answered my own questions that satisfy my own needs. That was, hey, is anybody out there local? And then I got a return. It was like, yeah, what's going on?

• 41:01Speaker 00

  And I was like, oh, well, we're just, you know, we're, we're here fishing at Lake Hartwell in Georgia. And, you know, we'd love to interact with you. If there's a way that, you know, you can give us a little flyby or something like that. Not three minutes later, two lights are screaming across the sky. Well, that physical manifestation was proof that I wasn't fooling myself. Like I reported it to the guys and then all of a sudden we're seeing lights go across the sky to a full semi-circle at mark 20, coming in and out of it at a 90-degree angle, both ends. And then another one hits the same spot and does a little corkscrew thing. It's impossible for a terrestrial craft. That type of validation can change your entire landscape on how you see everything.

• 41:44Mayim Bialik?

  So what is it about certain people like Chris Bloodso talks about this? You're talking about this. What have you figured out about how to communicate with non-human intelligence that other people haven't that you can summon them at will? Like what, what's actually going on?

• 42:02Speaker 00

  I love Chris dearly and he and I agree a hundred percent on this. Uh, it starts with love. It starts with a feeling of openness in your heart of you wanting to commune with

• 42:16Speaker 00

  what exists beyond yourself and what you're connected to beyond your physiological existence. And dipping into that spiritual existence that is your deeper, heartfelt, non-local self.

• 42:36Speaker 00

  Like when I lead any type of CE5 experience, it's always starting with, okay, imagine that you're holding a puppy or a kitty against your chest and you're just loving the heck out of this puppy or kitty or whatever it is. If you're a banker, maybe you got a stack of C notes, uh, you know, whatever it is that you love. Put it up next to your chest, get that heartwarming going. And then fire that out into the universe for whoever wants to come and commune with you. And invite them to fly by, invite them to land on the ground, invite them to connect with you psychically. And so the, I would say the frequency,

• 43:20Speaker 00

  but it's not really a frequency. The frequency of the universe is love. All of it is permeated with love when you're out there in it. Uh, the love of everything in the universe, the love that the universe exists, the love that, uh, the minutia has been created, all of us, the love of absolutely everything. That's what resonates with other things that are connected into that same non-local consciousness. So when you're connecting in with that, you're in tune with what they're connected to. It's like you're plugging into their internet, so to speak. And you're like, hey, you know, I'm going to send a ping out to, uh, the aliens. And then the aliens are like, hey, we saw your ping. What's going on? How you doing?

• 44:01Speaker 00

  And then you can start to communicate. Um, it all starts with love. It all starts with clearing your mind, being open to absolutely everything, and putting on the idea that you love every variation of creation, physical or non, that you would love to connect with. And when you do that, you get great results. Like if you try to reach out and contrarily, you try to reach out and say, I'm XYZ, my name is, you know, whatever, and I'm important and I want to have you fly around for my amusement. That's not going to work. Right?

• 44:45Speaker 00

  That's a very self-centered, self-ideated existence that they're not going to connect with. Because you got to remember, if they're plugged into consciousness at all, they have an idea that consciousness connects everything. It's how they're connecting with each other. It's how they land on, uh, like the Ariel School in South Africa, where the ship landed, the beings got out and they interacted with the kids and they communicated psychically. They do that through consciousness. So when you connect into consciousness, you're connecting into their internet.

• 45:19Jonathan Cohen?

  We speak to like materialist physicists on this show. We speak to a broad spectrum of people. And sometimes when we're having these conversations, there's like little voices from past guests that we can imagine trying to pull them into this conversation. And for some listeners, this conversation is really going to be difficult, right? Because we're speaking colloquially about things and just accepting them, right? We're accepting that you had an experience of objects being summoned and flying around. Now, from the scientific method, that's an anecdotal experience. There's no objective proof. We're here with

• 46:02Jonathan Cohen?

  you. We know your reputation. We've seen you on other podcasts. But if I'm the absolute skeptical, uh, analyzer of this data, there's questions. We can agree to that, right? Without, you know, I'm not trying to deny your experience, but I'm just trying to give voice to people who may be a part of this show that are like coming along for this ride. And so like this is, this is, this is a big stretch for a lot of people to be like aliens, communication, they present themselves, you know, Chris's story resonates with an enormous amount of people and other people we've described it to, they're like,

• 46:42Speaker 00

  Unless I experience it myself, unless I am out with him and see that and analyze it and get the data on it and make sure there aren't drones, even though, you know, I don't know a drone that can fly in the way that those videos have been described as flying.

• 46:57Mayim Bialik?

  You know, Sean, I think what's interesting is like, if you were to say, I'm this person who, you know, has been abducted many times. I've had many experiences, you know, I'm clearly, I'm speaking as you, right? I'm clearly tapped into something that is not of this world. And that's kind of been your whole life experience, right? Since you were a very little child, you've had access to other things. So I think the question is like, this is a very personal experience you've had, but you are extrapolating it to say, guess what? It's not just my experience. Anyone can have it. But I think the question that we'd love for you to speak to is not everyone has this. And I've sat in hours and hours

• 47:39Mayim Bialik?

  of Kundalini classes where they talk about a lot of these concepts, right? And we're all sort of practicing how to get there. We're chanting, there's mantras, we're doing mindfulness, we're doing, you know, loving kindness meditation. These are the, that's the language of what you're talking about, right? These kinds of meditations where you're sending goodness out, right? These are methods that for thousands of years people have used, right? But the fact is, there's something about people like you, people like Chris, you know, people who are able to slip into this, that for those of us who, you know,

• 48:19Mayim Bialik?

  try as hard as we might, you know, it's not, I want to believe it's everyone's potential experience, but it's actually not, you know, meaning that's not what people are experiencing. So I think that's some of the questions I have about your specialness, because I think you are very unique. Your experience, even this meditative experience you had, sounds a lot more like an NDE than most NDEs, right? So there's something going on with Sean's, you know, physiology, spirit, brain, you know, whatever, consciousness connection. But there, there is something that we can learn from you, because many people come

• 49:01Mayim Bialik?

  from love. Many people are practicing, you know, what it feels like to like be in touch with Kundalini rising and that energy that builds in your spine, right? But those people are not necessarily able to interface with non-human intelligence. Like, this is a special step.

• 49:20Speaker 00

  So the issue there is, I've noticed that, you know, other people don't have the experiences that I've had. So I acknowledge that, you know, I may be ahead of them on the experience curve. But at the same time, you know, regarding a solid connection into the, the non-local, the less you cling to here, the more you can slip into there. And so I resist the idea, and I try to consciously resist the idea, that I'm something special. And, okay, so now granted, I've had conversations with top researchers on consciousness expansion.

• 50:04Speaker 00

  And I even asked a couple of them, I was like, you think that there's like a LeBron James phenomenon going on here? Like, you know, he would obviously tell you it would be easy to dunk on an NBA player, but he has a special set of skills, right? First of all, he's a giant and built of solid muscle and has the ability to jump as high as a hoop requires to dunk a basketball, et cetera. Like, there's all these things that he has lined up that allows him to then say, it's easy to dunk on an NBA player. It would be foolish for me not to acknowledge the potential that there's something a little different about my existence that allows me to have these experiences and have this connection,

• 50:48Speaker 00

  et cetera. But I also know that even if humanity gets, doesn't get to the pinnacle of whatever I've experienced, right? If we can get a lot of folks just halfway up that ladder, right? Or down the path, just a little bit farther than they've traveled, it not only makes their life a better experience for them, it makes the world a better place. Because if we're moving the happiness meter on enough people, it starts to move the meter on the planet. So, yeah, I mean, I've experienced some things that I've never, like, there are five people in the world that I've talked to that I can have a conversation where I

• 51:31Speaker 00

  know that they've had the same exact experience that I've had. Shinzen Young is a master who is one of those on that list. He just sees turtles all the way down. We've had, you know, it's like you had that conversation with somebody who came from your hometown and you're like, oh, you remember that, that Kmart out on Highway 33? And, you know, that shut down? And they're like, oh, yeah, and there's that great bike trail out in back of it. It's like, boom, instantly, you know that they've been where you are. I've had conversations with masters where we've been able to trade information back and forth, where I know that they've had that experience. And then there's a lot of folks who I've had conversations with, where I test the waters on something and they're like, totally goes

• 52:14Speaker 00

  over their head. So I would be foolish to say that there's not something, the problem is I don't understand what it is, if it is something special about me. But second, I don't want to focus on that. I try not to focus on that, because if, if I start to focus on that, then what am I doing? I'm putting on a big wall between me and everybody else to say, oh, look at me, I'm special, I'm, you know, when the reality is, I'm just another human being like you. I happen to have whatever mix of experiences that I have. Let me try to convey to you what I think might help you if you're in that search to expand into self, into Kundalini experiences and enlightenment experiences,

• 52:55Speaker 00

  et cetera. Because ultimately, I would love to get you there yourself.

• 53:01Jonathan Cohen?

  What do you think the most important thing for people to access on a daily life to help them navigate life? Because obviously, getting AI formulas is fantastic, but that won't apply to every person in their daily life. What should the average person be focused on?

• 53:20Speaker 00

  They should be focused on calming their own inner bullshit, is what I call it.

• 53:27Speaker 00

  The biggest hurdle to higher levels of happiness, higher levels of understanding, is what your mind does on a daily and moment-to-moment basis. And there's neuroscience behind all of this. Your default mode network takes over about 52% of your processing on any time that you're not doing something. Your default mode network is ruminating about, what does this thing mean to my sense of self? And then you're dealing with the emotional output associated with the things that you're thinking about, the things that you're ruminating about, et cetera. And it makes you 20% less happier, according to studies. So calming that process, taking control of that half of your wasted brain cycles and reassigning

• 54:10Speaker 00

  those into something more beneficial to yourself, I think is step one. So like, I put that in a Mindhacking Happiness, Volume One book of, here's how your mind works, here's how to take control of your mind, here's how all the neuroscience supports how to take control of your mind, here are the exact steps that you need to do, et cetera, to turn down the negativity and the inner bullshit that your mind is creating all of the time, because that's a big hurdle. That if you can't calm the noise that exists here, and all of the world's wisdom disciplines, by the way, teach you the same thing here. It's all about calming your mind and quieting the noise that exists that stops you from hearing what exists just beyond the noise. So that would be the step one that I would

• 54:54Speaker 00

  say, if you're looking to expand consciousness, if you're looking to better your life in general, if you're, if you're looking just to have a little bit more happiness in your existence, take control of the things that steal your happiness. Like, there's this guy in your mind supposedly, that once everything aligns, he will slide you some happiness underneath the door of the happiness room. And then you'll be able to love that for the moments that you have that happiness, until you have to then run and align some other things that allow the guy to slip some happiness to you under the happiness door. You own that room. You pay that guy. You have the keys. You can kick in the door and go get as much happiness as you want, anytime that you want. If you take control of your

• 55:36Speaker 00

  mind, that's going to be a good step one to solving all of the problems that you have. Because one, it'll increase your happiness levels. But two, it'll decrease the noise levels of your mind creating all of your inner BS that then blocks you from hearing your larger existence beyond into the non-local, and then being able to contact non-human intelligence, being able to pull out the answers to your life.

• 55:59Mayim Bialik?

  Literally, I was with you until the last part of that sentence, because like, I'm into all of that. I don't know if my connection with those things necessarily is going to take me.

• 56:16Mayim Bialik?

  To non-human intelligence communication, like, am I supposed, and I'm not being facetious. Am I supposed to presume that like, when I get to that place, right? That conceptual place, that the information I'm receiving is from alien life forms that have existed for long enough before us to be able to communicate with us, but also not be so advanced that we can't communicate with them? Because some of the more, you know, kind of like theoretical physicist types, you know, who have chosen to entertain these things, the Adam Franks and the Neil deGrasse Tysons have been like, yeah, if there's aliens, they're like millions and millions of years old.

• 57:00Mayim Bialik?

  Like, if they're able to have the technology to be able to evade, not be found, but also sometimes have a drunk driving accident, as I call it, and like accidentally crash into Roswell. That, that, you know, the notion that like, there's some plane of sort of like quantum communication consciousness, Akashic record field, that those beings are communicating with us, we are millions of years behind them in terms of development, technology, communication. Like, like, I'm having a little bit of trouble, like, not just being like, can't I just do mushrooms once in a while and like, get a break from being human? Like, why is that not enough?

• 57:39Speaker 00

  And it can be enough, right? It's all your intention, right? So, um, the first thing that jumps out at me there is, when I say the words "non-human intelligence," to me, that definition is more than just aliens, right? So, it's, everything, I mean, literally is a binary choice. It's either human or non-human, which could include, uh, physical aliens, non-physical aliens, multi-dimensional aliens. It could include, uh, spiritual entities that never take physical form in the field of consciousness.

• 58:13Mayim Bialik?

  Do you mean God?

• 58:14Speaker 00

  It could, yes, absolutely.

• 58:16Mayim Bialik?

  I like that when we're talking about non-human intelligence, you want me to consider like, non-real aliens, but also God.

• 58:23Speaker 00

  Sure. Well, that's how I define it. You can define it whatever way you want, but when I'm saying, when I'm talking "non-human," I'm talking, okay, just not humans. Because the thing, the other thing is, like, it would be very hubristic for me to then classify these non-physical entities as, you know, this and that and whatever words that I want to create to explain my experience of things. Like, what the original experience, the consciousness expansion experience, I talk about it as meeting God. I mean, I literally talk about it as meeting the consciousness that understands every bit of the universe like it created it, which, to me, you know, hey, you know, all the, all the wisdom disciplines talk about the ancient, uh, worship of, uh, an all-powerful creator

• 59:07Speaker 00

  that understands everything in the universe because it created all the universe. Like, that was my experience of meeting that entity. Well, I put that into the bucket of non-human intelligence, because officially, that's non-human, it's intelligent, so I put it there.

• 59:21Mayim Bialik?

  We're gonna hit pause here on our conversation with Sean Webb, but you do not want to miss what is coming up in part two. We're gonna talk about non-human intelligence. If it's real, why isn't everyone ready for contact? What did Jesus understand about quantum mechanics? And how does Sean know? And what if the future of humanity involves a deeper connection between non-human intelligence and human consciousness itself? All that and more in part two of our conversation with Sean Webb. We'll see you next time.