Tim Tebow & Demi-Leigh Tebow | Stop Chasing Validation That’ll Never Fill You

There are a few conversations that stop me in my tracks, and this was one of them. Sitting across from Tim and Demi-Leigh Tebow, I wasn’t just speaking to a Heisman Trophy winner and a former Miss Universe. I was sitting with two people who live out their faith with more authenticity, humility, and conviction than almost anyone I’ve ever met. What struck me most is how both of them, despite the platforms they’ve been given, have had to wrestle with identity, comparison, loss, and purpose, just like the rest of us. Tim shared the heart behind his new book Look Again and what it really means to understand your worth through God’s eyes, not the world’s. When he said, “We use people and value things, instead of valuing people and using things,” it hit me hard. He reminded us that every single human being carries the image of God, that you’re not just bearing His image, you are His image. You are royalty. That truth changes how you see yourself and how you see others. Demi opened up about her journey from wearing the Miss Universe crown to realizing that she had attached her identity to it and the freedom she found when she handed it back. She also shared the raw pain of losing her father just days before our conversation and how she’s choosing faith in the middle of heartbreak. Her story is one of strength, surrender, and trust, choosing not to ask “Why?” but “Where?” Where is God working this together for good? That perspective will change how you face every challenge in your own life. We also talked about something that’s destroying people quietly, comparison. Tim reminded us that comparison kills joy. You can’t be grateful and envious at the same time. And Demi shared her own powerful insight: when you scroll through social media, you’re often letting people who don’t love you speak into your life. It’s time to take back that space and fill it with truth. And perhaps most moving of all, we dove into the heart of their work through the Tim Tebow Foundation, serving the most vulnerable around the world. From survivors of human trafficking to children with special needs, they’re proof that when you stop and see people the way God does, everything changes. You don’t need a big platform to make a difference, you just need a willing heart. Key Takeaways: How to find your true identity and worth through God’s eyes Why comparison kills joy and how to break free from it How to find hope and peace in the middle of loss The difference between bearing God’s image and being His image How small acts of compassion can create massive change in someone’s life This is one of those conversations you’ll feel deep in your soul. If you’ve ever doubted your worth, questioned your faith, or wondered if God still sees you, this one’s for you. Max out your life. Also don’t miss out on MAXOUT2026: Once a year, I open my home for an intimate one-day experience unlike anything else I do. This year, I’m making it even smaller, just 12 to 15 people. Together, we’ll dive deep into the exact strategies I use to plan, visualize, and design the best year of my life and yours. If you’re ready to Max Out your future, join me at Maxout2026.com for a life-changing day you’ll never forget. You can dive deeper into Tim and Demi’s message by getting their new books. Grab Tim’s Look Again at timtebow.com/lookagain and Demi-Leigh’s Knowing Who You Are Because of Who God Is devotional at demitebow.com/devo. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👉 SUBSCRIBE TO ED'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL NOW 👈⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ → → → CONNECT WITH ED MYLETT ON SOCIAL MEDIA: ← ← ← ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INSTAGRAM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ➡️⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FACEBOOK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LINKEDIN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WEBSITE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ed Mylett?

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• 1:03Speaker 01

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• 1:32Ed Mylett?

  Hey, guys, it's Ed. I rarely do this. As you know, 99.9% of my content is free. But once a year, I do something where I gather a very small group of people in my house. I've done it for two years in a row now, and I'm going to do it again this year. If you go to maxout2026.com, I'm going to do an experience in my home where I'm going to take you through how to make 2026 the best year of your life, all of the tactics and strategies that I use to plan and organize my own life in detail. Same time, all of the mental rehearsal and visualization techniques that people pay me hundreds of millions of dollars a year to teach them. I will be teaching that day as well. And the other years I've done it, I've had groups of about 25 or 30. I've decided this

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Year I want to shrink the size of the group so that I can get more one on one time with each of you. I want to keep the groups to 12 or 15. It's a chance to spend the day with me in my home, lunch, one on one time and group time. And it's not cheap. So if it's something you can't afford, please don't get yourself in any financial trouble or debt doing so. But if it's something you can afford to do, go to maxout2026.com and I'm looking forward to having you in my home with me very soon for an amazing day, a life-changing day. God bless you.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  This is the Miley Show.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  All right, welcome back to the show, everybody. So I've done about 800 interviews and it's not often that I start out by saying, here's who these two people are. He is the greatest college football player of all time, in my opinion, and she was Miss Universe. So that's where we're starting. Beyond that, let me tell you who these two people really are. I've got to know the gentleman to my left pretty well over the last few years and is he's a five times bestselling author. He's an analyst on television for football with ESPN, an incredible philanthropist. He is, in my opinion, the greatest college football player of all time. And I can honestly tell you in knowing him, none of those are the things that come to mind when I think about him. When I think about him, I think about somebody who's a great champion for Jesus Christ. He's a great man of God. And when

• 3:27Speaker 02

  you meet him, he's such a good dude, you're thinking, there's got to be a chink in the armor there somewhere. And as I've got to know him, he's even better person than my expectations. And I admire him and I love him very much. He's somebody that I actually look up to in many ways in my life. And in his beautiful wife's case, she has unbelievable work she's been doing. She's got a book that we're going to talk about in a minute. She's a brand new mother. She is very involved in the Tim Tebow Foundation, which is a foundation I can't get off my mind after some of the things he's shared with me, the photos, etc. And they're just a power couple. They're just two people that I really look up to. They're also neighbors of mine now, Demi and Tim Tebow. Welcome to the show.

• 4:04Tim Tebow?

  Thank you so much, brother. So appreciate you and your heart. And thanks for having us. And I loved last time we got together and got to talk and share and I'm excited about this time. And so excited Demi can be with us.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  I am too, man. I gotta tell you, let me tell you their books first, because you need to go get these books. Because number one, he's written five bestsellers. Did you know that you have five of these? Doesn't matter. And this one's coming out on November 2nd, depending on when you watch it. But the title of the book is Look Again. We're gonna talk about that today. You Taking a Look Again: Recognize Your Worth, Renew Your Hope, and Run With Confidence. And in Demi's case, my wife's read your book. And it's a devotional is what it really is, a hundred day devotional, correct? Her book is called Knowing Who You Are Because of Who God Is: A Hundred Days to Unbreakable Faith. That's kinda where I wanna start. I wanna start with you. The more I've traveled and done speaking over the years, you meet people and they don't all feel so great about themselves. And I feel like the world sometimes can lie to us about who we really are. Instagram, social media, the messages you get.

• 5:00Speaker 02

  What do you think, Demi, of all the work you've been doing with this and probably the thousands of messages you get? Particularly for women, like what's some of the lies that they buy into about who they really are? That causes them to think they're not qualified to do something great in their life?

• 5:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, and you know what? I think it's a question that I speak out of experience. You know, I'm so honored to have been able to carry the title of Miss Universe and to represent my home country. And it was one of my life's greatest blessings. But I think that came with confusing my platform for my purpose. And you'd think that the moment that had the biggest impact on my life was the moment that I got that crown, right? The moment that you get that achievement, that's supposed to set you up, that's supposed to make you feel amazing. But I think the moment that impacted me most was the moment I handed that crown back. And I walked off that stage, you know, you come at the end of the year, you have to crown the next very worthy, very rightful winner.

• 5:53Speaker 04

  And I walked off that stage at night feeling like I forgot something, like I left something very important behind. Kind of like how you get to the airport and you're like, do I have my passport? Is it, is it there, you know? And it took me a year or two to really figure out what that was. And I realized that the moment I handed over that crown to the very rightful next winner, I also handed back my identity, my worth, my value, because I had attached that to that crown. And you know, you might never have won a sparky crown or, you know, anything to that extent before. But I think there is a time in all of our lives where we attach so much worth and value to maybe being a mom, maybe being a parent, and then you become an empty nester and you face with that same question.

• 6:36Speaker 04

  Maybe you're leaving that corner office for a retirement package and you're faced with that what's next question. And this book is really based on the truths that God

• 6:47Speaker 04

  Tells us about who we are because of who he is. And as image bearers of God, as we learn in Genesis, that is something that we get to hold on to. And I have found that when we hold on to who he is, it shows us who we are.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 7:01Speaker 04

  And it makes our faith unbreakable. It makes our purpose more clear.

• 7:05Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 7:05Speaker 04

  And our identity secure.

• 7:07Speaker 02

  It's interesting because both of your books are sort of heading in the same direction about this identity thing. Obviously, in your case too, I mean, everywhere you go, you're Tim Tebow, right? I mean, and, and I know you were raised in a particular way, but let's just be honest, everywhere you go, you're getting reinforced because of football, because you're on TV. Even maybe because of the foundation, which is something you still do, it's service, but it's. And in your book, you talk about, I want to just unbreak this right in the beginning, because it's powerful about royalty and our real identity.

• 7:37Tim Tebow?

  That's right.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  You know, grounded in this royalty concept. So first, have you struggled with that ever?

• 7:42Tim Tebow?

  Of course.

• 7:42Speaker 02

  And then what is this concept of royalty in the book?

• 7:45Tim Tebow?

  I've struggled so much and so many times in my life of also putting my identity in the wrong things, wrong places, putting worth in the wrong places, of losing perspective. What does perspective mean? Just comes from a Latin word, meaning to look through. And I couldn't look through what all the world was telling me and to what God had for me and how God saw me. And look again, really is a wake up call for all of us, starting with myself, to fight the lie that some lives matter less, to be, to embrace the truth that human worth is fixed, that we don't get to pick and choose, that we don't get to pick and choose who's valuable, right? And we don't get to pick and choose when they're valuable.

• 8:29Tim Tebow?

  And our value isn't based on the things that we do for society that are valuable to them. Our value is based on God creating us in his image, on purpose and for a purpose, in love, by love and for love. Like, and, and talking about royalty, why it was such a, a big burden, blessing and privilege for me to write this was started about four years ago, and I knew I was supposed to. We were at Night to Shine about four years ago.

• 9:01Speaker 02

  Can you tell them what Night to Shine is just really quickly? Because if they don't know, if you want to get, if you want a good cry, I mean,

• 9:08Tim Tebow?

  I was just starting to get much more thinking about it.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Just tell them what that is. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I don't know what that means.

• 9:13Tim Tebow?

  It's a worldwide celebration for individuals with special needs. And this was at the back end of COVID. And so we were having something called a shine through so we could still celebrate all of the kings and queens and their family and loved ones. And so there's this red carpet drive through that they're all driving through. And a lot of them were in Corvettes. And there was this red Corvette that was pulling by and all of the team and so many volunteers are out there cheering and cheering and cheering. And there's a, a young girl with blonde hair and a red dress and a red Corvette driving by super, super slow. And we're going crazy and she's just cheering and cheering and cheering. And she's just beaming with joy.

• 9:55Tim Tebow?

  And the car pulls by and I didn't even know that our team in the churches were working together to have bumper stickers on the back of the car. But when the car drove by, I saw on the back of the car and it said royalty onboard. And I thought, that's it. That's it. And so I really started to, to dive in after that point of looking into what does it mean to be made in the image of God, in His image and in His likeness? And, and we see in Genesis that it's mentioned in Genesis 126 and 27. It's mentioned in Genesis 5 after the fall. It's mentioned in Genesis 9. And so obviously this is a so important concept for us to understand.

• 10:36Tim Tebow?

  Really, growing up, I heard it talked about in three phases that it was relational, rational or functional. Relational, meaning that God created us to be relational with Him and with one another. Rational, to be logical and thinkers and, and process information. And then functional, to rule and reign and, you know, subdue the earth. And I think all three of those are part of it. But I started to get so emotional and sad and frustrated because I thought, Well, that can't be it, because what about all of those with special needs? Sixteen percent of the world's population has a special need or disability. What about, what about all of those boys and girls, men and women, that maybe can't do that to the same extent? Or they may lessen God's image?

• 11:20Tim Tebow?

  And I would say absolutely not. So we started to dive into it to really understand what it means. And when you really look into the term in the ancient Near East, the image of God, you see that it was a term that an Assyrian king in the 1500 B.C.'s would be referred to as the image of Bell, a god that they believed in, or an Egyptian king, image of Ra, a god that they believed in, or the Greeks, you know, a living image of Zeus. And so you really look at it. And when, in the ancient Near East, when they would have read Genesis 1, and they would have seen that we are made in God's image and likeness, what they, what I believe that they would have understand, it is a royal worth statement, because it is a statement that they would have seen that is used for kings and for monarchs.

• 12:04Tim Tebow?

  And now that the Bible is saying, this is used for all of humanity. This is you. You have seen this for kings and for monarchs, but this is for all of humanity. This is how much I love you. That this statement that you are, that you will see on statues for, for these kings and for these monarchs. No, this is how much I love you. And then when we fast forward to the New Testament, and we, we understand the, the life of Jesus, that Jesus lived the perfect life, a life that, that we couldn't live, but died to death, that we deserved to die and took our place. And that when we accept that free gift of eternal life, we get adopted into the family of God as sons and daughters of the King. Then what are we? Royalty, sons and daughters of the King.

• 12:45Tim Tebow?

  And my heart for look again is that we would truly look again to understand our worth and our value, that we would fight the lie that some lives matter less, and then we would act on that, that we would truly act on that. That when we would leave and we would go places, we wouldn't look past people. We would see people. Sixty-seven times in scripture, it tells us that Jesus saw. He would see people and he would meet their needs. And he didn't look past, he didn't look beyond, he didn't see the vulnerable and say they're less valuable. He saw the vulnerable and cared for them and met their needs. And he didn't care as much about comfort as he did compassion. And we live in a society, and I have failed at this so many times, I have fought for that

• 13:28Tim Tebow?

  next thing to really just be more comfortable. And I think as a society, we have to fight that comfort and step into a life of compassion. What does compassion mean? It means to care so much for someone, you're willing to suffer with them. It is not a comfortable place, that you'd be willing to do that. But when you see people that are, that you know are valuable to God and they're vulnerable, then you're gonna act. But if we don't see them as valuable, we won't act. And I believe too many times that me and so many others don't see people the way that we should, and we have to stop and look again. First at ourselves and the worth and the value that God has given us. And then the worth and the value that God has put on all of humanity.

• 14:11Tim Tebow?

  And when we see people that way, we will act. Because could you imagine, Ed, if I lost a penny and I said, "Hey, Ed, we gotta tear all this apart because I lost a penny." You would look at me and be like, "Timmy, you're an idiot." Like, "Who cares? It's a penny." But if Demi lost her ring, we would stop and we would tear everything apart. But we treat people as pennies, not diamonds. But yet every person is so much more valuable than any diamond that has ever been created.

• 14:40Ed Mylett?

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• 16:43Speaker 02

  You, you were at a talk that I attended for a group I'm on the board of and you were talking about MVPs, like you've won MVPs and you're like, really? I want to help the most vulnerable people. Yes. Going down this road. So I want to flip this just for a second, Demi, and, and let me tell you where I'm going. By the way, the clips he's talking about are from his foundation sponsors. He, he didn't take credit for this because he doesn't take credit, but his foundation's created these events that he's referencing. And when you watch these clips, you'll see these people that many people don't see now all of a sudden being seen and they're being celebrated. And the looks on their precious faces, it makes you very emotional. And I have a theory that a lot of times when we get emotion, it's because we see something in someone else that we know exists within us

• 17:27Speaker 02

  that maybe we're not utilizing, we're not releasing, we're not serving. And so I want to flip it to you, Demi, because it's, I think it's obvious to some extent that many people may overlook someone with a disability or that has autism or something like that. And, and, and maybe see, not see them as they should. But there's a lot of people that don't see themselves as they should. That's right. And it's not obvious, it's invisible. And everywhere I go, I meet people who they just, they don't feel good about themselves. They carry some shame, maybe from their upbringing, or of sin they've committed, or a mistake, or a relationship that didn't work out. A lot of people listening to this right now are like, okay, I heard all his Bible stuff over there. I'm a believer or I'm not, right?

• 18:12Speaker 02

  But I know how I feel about myself. And I don't feel secure about myself. I don't feel confident in myself. Do you believe that that's because they don't know where they really come from? And if they really were understood that they've got a Father in heaven that loves them, as Tim just described? Is that completely it? Or would you give a slightly different answer to somebody? And I think this is men and women, but would you agree with me that maybe to some extent, there's more pressure on women to think they have to be a particular way in order to be qualified, in order to make a difference? Just wondering what you think about that.

• 18:41Speaker 04

  Well, Ed, as a believer, I think my opinion maybe looks very similar to Tim's. Because I feel like that's the place that in my faith where I truly got a secure identity, an identity that's unbreakable, an identity that's unshakable, no matter life circumstances. You know, I think a big part of our perception of ourself is often formed by our life circumstances. And that's difficult because our life circumstances usually look like a roller coaster. And then when we attach our confidence, our worth, our value to our life circumstances, you know, that sends our identity on a roller coaster too. And that's, that's not secure, that's shakeable.

• 19:25Speaker 04

  When that corner office door closes, you know, it shakes up our identity. It doesn't make us feel good. When that thing that we thought gave us worth and value is no longer there, we no longer feel worthy or valuable. And so for me personally, I, I really had to take time and step back and, and look at, well, what is, where can I root my identity in where it's not going to be based in something that's temporary, that was never meant to last for all of eternity? And for me personally, Ed, I haven't been able to find an answer other than in my faith and in who God is. And as a believer, I know and I fully believe that I don't have to

• 20:05Speaker 04

  earn that worth because that worth was given by what Jesus did for me on my behalf. And that is where my worth can be rooted in.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  Same here, by the way. I want to make sure everybody in my audience knows that. Same here. When I was a little boy, I think a lot of people conflate recognition or significance with love.

• 20:25Tim Tebow?

  Absolutely.

• 20:26Speaker 02

  In my case, anyway, when I was a little boy, when I would feel loved by my dad is when I did something good. I brought home A's and then he'd give me significance and recognition that felt like love to me. Or if I hit a homerun in baseball, okay. And I think as we grow up, we often start to think we have to get attention or recognition. And it's an artificial shallow feeling of love where when we get it from our father in heaven, we don't have to earn it.

• 20:52Tim Tebow?

  He did it before we did anything. He loved us. He, Jesus came down to this earth, took on sin. And he loved us while we were yet sinners. We didn't do anything. He did everything and he did it for us. And getting ready for look again, we got to to study with so many Old Testament, ancient Near East scholars. And one of them, Dr. Carmen Imes, really impacted my view because she really believes that when we always say we're image bearers. It's wrong. We're not image bearers. We're image beings. That when you bear something, you can also put it down. But we can't ever put down the image of God in our life.

• 21:37Tim Tebow?

  So we aren't called to bear God's image. We're called to be God's image in whatever we do. In everything we do, we will never be made less of God's image based on what we do. Now, obviously, we should try to go live out in a way that honors him and loves people, makes a difference. But no matter what you've done, if you're watching, you're listening, you are no less made in God's image based on whatever that has happened to you.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  It's so good. I think what happens is that, I think actually God, we certainly don't want to make mistakes or sins or mistakes. But when we do, God actually wants to use them in the service of somebody.

• 22:11Tim Tebow?

  He does. He does use them.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  I have to say all the time, you're most qualified to help the person you used to be. My dad helped thousands of people get sober. Why? Because at one time he was an alcoholic. If you're a person who used to not have hope and now you've got hope, you can help hopeless people. If you did not know Jesus and you do now, you can help all those people. Your company, if you, now you know a lot about mortgages or insurance or how to, you know, put together an air conditioner. And you use it, you can help all these people that need it. You're most qualified to help those you used to be. Here's the rub, though. The hard part is that when you live in this world today and all of this is true, and whether someone's a believer listening to this or not, you should just know that there's a God in heaven that loves you more than you can imagine. Right? And that's just a comforting thing to know. But in the, in the world today, if we're being real,

• 22:55Speaker 02

  it's, it's so difficult to not compare yourself to others. Even the two of you. It's, you, you set a high, pretty high bar, man. I mean, you set a high bar and so wanting, and even our camera people are like, it's, it's, it's even for me, like, I want to make a difference in the world. But I'm not you. And I think people are on Instagram, I'm not as beautiful as her or everyone's on a yacht and driving a Lamborghini online, it seems like, and I'm at home just struggling with my problems. Comparison is a huge challenge in the world today because it's right in our pocket. It's on our phone. We're constantly being forced to compare ourselves. Or we're not smart enough or our setback. What would you say to somebody who's just in this hyper? And you know what I'm talking about? Hyper comparison mode in their life is, what's the solution to that or the answer?

• 23:40Tim Tebow?

  Well, I'd want you to know that that has been me. Um, far, far too many times and comparison kills all joy. If you live a, a life in comparison, it will absolutely steal and kill your joy. And that's what the enemy wants. We know his goal is to steal, kill and destroy. And I think part of how he does that is with comparison. That, oh, you should be doing this, you should be on that team, you should have this podcast, you should be that, you should have, be, have that crown, you should be this. And, you know, I heard a stat several years ago that 12% of our daily thoughts are spent in some form of comparison.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  Well, it's a huge number.

• 24:15Tim Tebow?

  That's a huge number. That means if, if we're spending 12% of our time comparing ourselves with other people or other things or other stuff or other positions, then so much of our day is getting killed. And by the way, when you go look at Instagram or TikTok or all these other things, there's a reason why filters are, are, are so popular. It's because you're comparing your real life to somebody else's fake life.

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Let's call it a highlight reel.

• 24:41Tim Tebow?

  And that is going to kill your joy. It is going to kill, absolutely kill your joy. And I know I have been there, I try to fight it. I constantly have to fight it in so many areas. Because right when we, you know, turn on a game, you think, man, I could be doing that. I could do this, or I could do that. And it just absolutely zaps your joy and it'll zap your peace. Because I also believe when we're comparing ourselves to someone else, or a position or thing that they have, what we're really saying, even though it's, we're not saying it, it's implied, we're really saying to God, God, I'm not grateful for where I am, because I wish I was there. And I don't believe that you can really spend time comparing yourself

• 25:24Tim Tebow?

  and being grateful for your blessings at the same time.

• 25:27Speaker 04

  And I'll just say, you know what, something I've realized is, looking at social media, having that, you know, in the palm of your hand every single day, anytime, right? You're essentially allowing people you don't know, who don't love you, don't miss you, care for you, who don't have your best interests at heart, you're allowing them to speak into your life. And I don't even think that we realize it. You know, whether they're directly speaking at you or not, you're allowing them to have an influence in your life, to speak into your life. And I think I've had to really focus on who are the people that I am going to listen to? Who are the people that I'm going to surround myself with, going to point me back to truth? When the enemy wants to make me doubt, when he's planting seeds of doubt ultimately.

• 26:12Tim Tebow?

  Do you have that?

• 26:13Speaker 04

  For sure, yes.

• 26:14Tim Tebow?

  Because you come from this world, I was thinking about it when I was prepping last night, I'm like, like, you were Miss Universe, Miss South Africa, you're literally in a contest to some extent of comparison. Like, where's the world you come from, right? So how did you, I mean, it's like the perfect example. I also find that like, when something's good to happen for me, you've messaged me before. I'm rooting for other people too. How do you do that where you're like, I simultaneously want to run my race?

• 26:42Ed Mylett?

  But I'm also rooting for you to do well. Did you have that where you're in the pageants? I'm just curious, like, that's a very difficult.

• 26:48Speaker 04

  I definitely had both sides of it for sure. So, yeah, I mean, it was a competition. I think I competed with ninety five other contestants. The most beautiful, the most elite, the most, the tallest, you know, from all over the world. And it was very, very competitive. I mean, I stopped speaking my first language for three months just in preparation for this pageant. I wore high heels.

• 27:08Tim Tebow?

  Her first language is Afrikaans.

• 27:09Speaker 04

  Yes. Sounds nothing like English. You know, I went to these extents to be able to compete to the highest extent and the highest level. And, you know, there were definitely times where it was difficult, where you definitely felt that competition, where it was a little hard to be as nice to everybody else.

• 27:32Speaker 04

  But I remember this moment, right before the pageant started. We're backstage and it's dark and you're trying not to trip over all the cables and things. And one of the other contestants just grabs you by the hand and goes, hey, if I don't win, I hope you do. And, you know, I think that was so beautiful because in that moment, it just reminded me that we are called to strive for excellence. You know, I think the Bible tells us that so many times over and over. We are called to strive for excellence, to live out our purpose. But we can also value and root for other people that are doing the same. And essentially, I think it makes us better.

• 28:07Ed Mylett?

  I do too.

• 28:08Speaker 04

  Makes us better when we can look at each other and learn from each other, support each other, cheer for each other.

• 28:13Tim Tebow?

  Iron sharpens iron, so a man sharpens another.

• 28:16Ed Mylett?

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• 30:16Speaker 02

  If you don't mind me asking, it makes me emotional because I just gave a talk on stage about my dad. It's one of the talks that I give and just all these things in life that can pull us to emotions, maybe that aren't always peace and joy, right? And so I want to ask you about loss, if you don't mind, just for a second. I don't want to be too personal, but

• 30:39Speaker 02

  I always try to ask the question, someone's listening. I know people want to know about comparison. I know. I also know that there's people right now that are dealing with loss.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:46Speaker 02

  They've lost their loved one. They've lost a relationship. They've lost a job. Maybe their dream didn't work out. And I already see it on your face because you know what I'm going to ask you about. I just talked about mine. So you recently lost your dad. I mean, very, very recently when we record this within just several really days. And I'm wondering if you could speak to that of, of how you deal with loss. I, I, I know where you run for your comfort. I'm sure Tim is one of those places, but I know where you ultimately go for comfort. Would you guys mind just speaking about that? And because it's just part of life, just loss.

• 31:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:19Speaker 04

  Um, you know, Ed, I lost my sister a couple of years ago when she was thirteen. She was born with severe special needs and ultimately it's autumn and I met. And her life was really difficult, it was really hard, there were so many times she had really painful, physically painful situations that we were in and it really rattled my dad's faith to a big extent. And um, there was a time where I was worried about my dad's faith. And um, my stepmom really wanted to go on this trip to Israel. And he said, I'll go with you, but I want nothing to do with the tour. I want nothing to do with the empty tomb. I want nothing to do with any of it, I'm just going to protect you.

• 31:59Speaker 04

  And you know, God is so gracious and so kind because he speaks to us in ways that matter to us. That's how much he loves us. And in that, in that time, my dad definitely didn't expect this. My dad's such a practical person, he was such a practical person that God revealed himself to him. You know, by seeing the empty tomb, by walking through the garden of gates. And by, you know, kind of following um, in Jesus's footsteps in a way. And that was so beautiful. My dad came back from that trip and I'll never forget what he told me. He said, you know, Demi, for the rest of my life, I can choose to question God or I can choose to trust him. And I'm gonna choose to trust him.

• 32:42Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 32:43Speaker 04

  And you know, Ed, I'm so grateful for just God's kindness and graciousness in that. And my dad passed away a couple of days ago as we're recording this. And he had a really long battle with, with cancer, hard battle with cancer over the last two years. And I'm honestly still processing it. I don't have all the right answers and um, I'm hurting. You know, it's, it's my dad and do you think that I'm never gonna be able to pick up the phone and call him on the side of heaven? And ask him what chemicals to put in the pool or change my car's oil filter? Or just check in to say hi, it hurts, it's painful. Um, but I'm grateful for the hope with assurance that we have in Jesus. And I know a day that we all look forward to, the day that he's getting to experience right now.

• 33:26Speaker 02

  Right, did you wanna add anything to that? I saw you over there crying like a baby, I'm just wondering what was going through your mind.

• 33:40Tim Tebow?

  It's just a

• 33:44Tim Tebow?

  you shouldn't need him wearing me. He's just a he's a good man. He was an amazing father-in-law. He was a fun man.

• 33:56Tim Tebow?

  Just a special father-in-law and special dad to Demi. I'm glad he got to meet his granddaughter before he went to heaven.

• 34:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, we should say that part. That's one of the great blessings is you did get a chance to bring your new daughter to see your dad before his time is passing, right? That's beautiful.

• 34:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, we, her and I got on a plane and flew to South Africa. She was seven weeks old, but we did it and thankfully, we were all healthy coming back. And I mean, I know that that was, he told me it was just the highlight of his life, getting to meet his granddaughter.

• 34:27Speaker 02

  Do you know why I love your answer so much? It's something that I, I asked you about it the first time you were on, but we didn't get a chance because it was at the end. And so I'd like to take the time now at the end to kind of talk about this. And I want to make sure that both, everyone remembers at the end, we're going to make sure that they know your books again. But there's what you said. That's the real, one of the realest things ever. People do question their faith.

• 34:47Tim Tebow?

  Yeah.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  And they do have doubts. And then what happens is oftentimes I think we then feel guilty. I'm not as faithful as Tim Tebow, or I'm not as faithful as some pastor I see on TV and and when we question our faith, that almost, it becomes a spiral. But the truth of the matter is, is that most of us have a relationship with God, which means for many of us, it can ebb and flow. It can be up and down. And so, a lot of people listening to this today.

• 35:14Speaker 02

  Maybe have drifted from their faith, or never had it, or question it. When they lose, I, many of you know, I had, my sister gave birth to identical twins recently and one of the babies passed after they were born. My sister got about an hour with one of the two boys. And it can make you be angry with God. It can make you doubt God. It can make you question things. In our own family, that wasn't, ended up where we all landed. We landed with stronger faith and more comfort. But people do question their faith.

• 35:42Tim Tebow?

  Yeah.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  They do doubt. And they do feel guilt about that fact. What would you say to them, both of you? I think we should, we should go there.

• 35:48Tim Tebow?

  Well, you, you mentioned that we're not faithful and my first response would be, I'm not faithful.

• 35:56Tim Tebow?

  But he is faithful. Even where we are not. And Christianity is not a museum for good people. It's a hospital for the broken. And you, when you are broken, you get to go to the healer. Wow. And we, I think so many times these terms and phrases and things get thrown about about Christianity and Jesus and the love of God. And we just need to go back to the truth of God's word of who he is. That we serve a God that is a loving Father that knows pain. That took on the, the, the sin of the world, that took on evil, that went to the cross. And Hebrews tells us, for the joy set before him, he endured the cross, despised the shame,

• 36:40Tim Tebow?

  finished the race and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. He endured the cross, despised the shame, but he did it anyways for the joy set before him. What was the joy set before Jesus when he's going to the cross? Making you and me right with his dad. The joy set before us was reconciling us, which reconcile is more than just forgiveness. Forgiveness is a part of it, but it means to make enemies friends. Means to renew the relationship. To be, to be right again, like, and he wants to reconcile us with him. And ultimately, man, I don't know why God does everything. And I would be a total liar and hypocrite to say, I know it, but I know that somehow God works all things together for good to those that love him and are called according to his purpose.

• 37:25Tim Tebow?

  And I know that God loves humanity and I know that God is near to the brokenhearted. So if you're hurting, if you've experienced loss, I know that our God is near. He knows what brokenhearted is. He went to the cross, he experienced it. We don't experience something that our God didn't already experience. He knows loss, he knows brokenhearted. So if you feel like, man, you've experienced loss, our God has gone through it. And I want you to know he loves you. You can have a hope, even when it feels like the waves are crashing into the boat, the anchor holds.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  So good. That's so good, Tim, so good. You know, Ed, I, um, I feel like. Questioning our faith isn't necessarily wrong.

• 38:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:10Speaker 04

  I think it's the way in which we do that. And I hope that I can turn from questioning to seeking. Um, and a way that I have tried to do that and I failed miserably because just on the morning my dad passed, you know, Tim and I looked at each other and we're like, man, why him? You know, why he's sixty two years old? Like, he was just the happiest, friendliest, I mean, like, most joyful man, um, had like made the best barbecue. It's just so many fun. I mean, he loved this guy so much, so much. Um.

• 38:45Speaker 04

  So many questions that pops your mind, why? Why now? Why God? Why him? And I don't think it's wrong to seek understanding, but instead of asking why, I hope that I can reframe my mindset to asking where? To say, God, where are you working this together for good? Where are you using this for your glory? Where are you working all things together for goodness? We know you promise. And that's hard to do.

• 39:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:11Speaker 04

  That's not easy because it hurts and it's painful. And, you know, maybe on this side of heaven, we'll never have all the answers to to those questions. I know in my sister's loss of of her life, there's so many unanswered questions, but I'm gonna choose to trust God that he is the God that is in full control. And I'm not him. And so I'm rather gonna trust in his plan and his purpose.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  I just want to tell you I'm sorry for your loss.

• 39:35Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  I'm so happy for your dad, though.

• 39:37Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  And your sister, they're together.

• 39:39Speaker 04

  They are.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  But it's, it's, seek, wow.

• 39:44Speaker 01

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• 40:13Speaker 02

  You guys, this is such a great conversation. Um, let me ask you this last. So your faith is, um, I told you, I admire you. It's one of the things that inspires me, uh, Tim, um.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  People ask me about you a lot that they know that we now know one another. And I always tell them you're better than they think. But you're just a man. And, and what you do, though, is you, you've said the word, "Serve God." I'll bet fifteen or twenty times in the interview today. "Serve" is what you said. You use that word a lot. And you also do it a lot. And I think one of the reasons that I believe your faith is growing and that you're happy is that you serve people. And everybody listening to this in their own way, I think one of the things in life, when you feel the most helpless, get the most helpful.

• 41:08Tim Tebow?

  Yeah.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  There's a shift. And so what they don't know about you, I want to, I want to acknowledge something in you, then I want you to answer it to finish, both of you together. Okay. These two work so hard. They, they have every reason in their life to play a lot of golf and take a lot of vacations and cool it a lot. Let me tell you, he and I have been playing golf together. He's, he's on the phone and it's, it's for the foundation. Their work is for the, the, the Tim Tebow Foundation. They both labor and serve in that foundation and the foundation does incredible work. Some of the work that he does there is that I've seen photos and I've been one of these. I'll never forget. I'll just literally never forget. And so they help the most vulnerable people in the world. They bring medical assistance. They help.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  There's the work they do in sex trafficking is just, it's unbelievable with disabled people. Is part, I want you to talk about the foundation a little bit, but also I know there's a little bit of a selfish angle there. And I mean this in a sense that I know service is so important to you and making a difference. And I think a lot of times we're just sitting there with our emotions rather than saying, "Let me just go help one person."

• 42:16Tim Tebow?

  Yes.

• 42:16Speaker 02

  I think one of the keys of changing your life is just it's, and you, a lot of you are listening going, "Well, I can't help anybody."

• 42:22Tim Tebow?

  Yes.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  I promise you, you can help who you used to be. There's someone who needs you.

• 42:26Tim Tebow?

  Yes.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  There's some person who needs you, whether it's just to call and check in. "I love you. I haven't talked in a while. Are you okay?" You'd be surprised. But how much does serving God, service matter to the two of you? And then how you do it through the, through the foundation?

• 42:40Tim Tebow?

  I think it's one of the most important callings that God has placed on us and that has placed on, on all of us, but specifically for us and serving the MVP, the most vulnerable people. And I would say it's where God has impacted my life. By far the most.

• 43:06Tim Tebow?

  Where I've seen him show up, where I've seen him convict me, where I've seen him teach me,

• 43:13Tim Tebow?

  prune me, fulfill me.

• 43:19Tim Tebow?

  You know, we get to serve in a lot of dark areas and hard places. But then it's also in hard places, you see the darkness. But you also see every time darkness and light meet, light wins every time. And you see God show up and do incredible things. And every person, everyone watching, you have a chance and an opportunity to not look past people, but see them and step in and serve somebody. The person that you would drive by, homeless man, the person on the side of the street, the person that is the cashier that no one has spoken nicely to, you have a chance to see them.

• 44:03Tim Tebow?

  We were just speaking at an event a couple of weeks ago and there was a red light and there's a man holding a sign there. I rolled down the window and we gave him food and water and some cash that we had. And he looked at us stunned and there was four of us in the car. And he said, "Why would you do this?" And I said, "Man, because we want you to know that you're super valuable to us. Because you're valuable to God. And we want you to know God sees you and so do we. And we just pray that you have an awesome day. And sometimes you just don't have to do much more than that. And it can make someone's day. We were in New York City doing an interview, maybe like a year ago.

• 44:46Tim Tebow?

  And we stopped in to grab a drink from a place before we had to get to the next place. And one of our team members who I'm so grateful for, because you know, when I walked by and grabbed the drink and we paid and walking out, he looked at her and he said, "Hey, are you okay?" And she said, "No, I'm not." I don't know that I want to live much longer. And and the conversation he had with her was so profound and I pray that she's doing good. But she needed somebody to see her. She needed that day for someone to stop and care about her. And all of us can do that. We can, we can stop, we can see people and we can treat them as valuable. Because right now, I really believe so much in our society, and I know that I'm guilty of this,

• 45:31Tim Tebow?

  is we use people and we value things. Instead of loving and value people and use things. And we have to flip it. When we actually love and value people, everything will change. Your heart, your hope, your life, the fulfillment. The greatest fulfillment that I have ever received by far in my life is by serving people that could never do anything to help us. It changes everything and all of us have the chance to do that.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  So good. And he does this, guys, daily, all the time. You can see it on his face. It's who they really are. I want you to be able to get the last word.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, oh. You know, and I think for me, the times where I thought there's not much that I can do is probably because I was right, because there's not much I can do. And what I mean by that is because that's my pride speaking, that's me thinking that

• 46:27Speaker 04

  what I have to offer is maybe too little. And I realize God can use your willingness way more than you ever realize. You know, I was, I was carjacked in 2017, held at gunpoint, got out of the vehicle, was able to escape that situation. They tried to push me back in the vehicle, said, get in, you're going with us. Long story short, I ran up that avenue, broad daylight, peak hour traffic, half past five in the afternoon, knocking on window after window after window, and nobody would stop to help me. That was the most horrifying part of the whole story. Nobody would stop to help me and this young girl, who I later learned was nineteen years old. She pulled over in her old little beat up car. And she literally had to lean over and unlock the little car knob to let me in and and let me to safety.

• 47:10Speaker 04

  And all she had was a beat up, old little car and a willing heart. And that incident, it served as such a massive catalyst in my life. That's what let me let me learn about the fight against human trafficking. That's how I got into this fight. That's the, that was the catalyst to opening my eyes to what's going on in the world. And today I get to serve alongside them all over the world and and the Tim Tebow Foundation and fight for survivors and victims of human trafficking. And um, you know, hadn't not been for that young nineteen year old girl that said, here I am, God use me with what I have where I am. You know, I'm so grateful for her for many reasons, but for opening my eyes that God can use you, but you have to be willing.

• 47:54Speaker 02

  My gosh, God used the two of you today. This is fly by. That is such an extraordinary story that that's the person who ends up saving you that day.

• 48:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  You guys, I I just tell you, this is why I do the show. Like, this is why I do the show. Every once in a while, there's like a magic that happens. And the first thing I would encourage you all to do, like, is as your friendship with me for the last decade, many of you. Go check out the the Tim Tebow Foundation. It's the first thing, I want you to get their books, and we'll talk about this in a minute. But if you would just become familiar with the work they're doing, it's extraordinary around the world. I have good fortune that I'm I'm around a lot of different people with foundations and the work they do, and there are many. These two are so committed to the causes that they work on, and it's real. And it's it's what they do every day. It's not just some gala they show up to once a year and there's a team behind the scenes. They've got a great team. They're daily involved in their work.

• 48:47Speaker 02

  And um, I admire the two of you a great deal. I really do. I I, what a great conversation.

• 48:53Speaker 04

  Thank you for you.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  What a great conversation. The the books, you guys, go get Tim's book, November second, if you've seen this before or after, look again. We only got into a little bit of it, so recognize your worth, renew your hope and run with confidence. That sounds good, by the way, and then Demi's book. Which I can tell you in my own household is a hit, so that means it's a good one. Cause we get all the books in my house. Knowing Who You Are Because of Who God Is, 100 Days to Unbreakable Faith. It's great. So, thank you for today. Thank you, brother. So appreciate you, man. All right. God bless you, everybody. Share this episode. I don't have to tell you to share this one. I already know it's being shared. Max out your life.