Instinct AI: The AI Assistant for normal people

I sit down with Remy to go through Instinct, the new invite-only personal agent that runs inside iMessage. Remy shares his raw chat history on screen: a haircut booking in Copenhagen, a restaurant reservation, a Bali visa on arrival, and an Emirates Skywards sign-up. We cover the parts that impress us, the points where the agent hits a wall, and the privacy questions that stay open. By the end of this episode you understand what Instinct does today, and you get fresh ideas for personal agents in general. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro 02:08 – Instinct Pros 11:18 – Instinct Cons 13:16 – Simple Onboarding 15:19 – Tools and Connectors 17:43 – Example 1: Booking a Haircut in Copenhagen 20:24 – Example 2: Restaurant Booking and Calendar Entry 23:03 – Example 3: Bali Visa on Arrival and Emirates Skywards 26:00 – Closing Thoughts Key Points Instinct hides the agent complexity behind a phone number and iMessage, so a first-time user starts in seconds. Remy gets it to book a haircut, hold a restaurant table, file a Bali visa on arrival, and open an Emirates Skywards account. A spend-limited virtual card keeps the blast radius small when the agent pays for things. The agent stalls when a task needs a phone app or an Indonesian checkout page. Users report that Instinct keeps copies of email after they disconnect Google, so treat privacy as an open risk. The trusted person network lets one Instinct talk to another, which builds network effects into the agentic era. The #1 tool to find startup ideas/trends - https://www.ideabrowser.com LCA helps Fortune 500s and fast-growing startups build their future - from Warner Music to Fortnite to Dropbox. We turn 'what if' into reality with AI, apps, and next-gen products https://latecheckout.agency/ FIND ME ON SOCIAL X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/gregisenberg Instagram: https://instagram.com/gregisenberg/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gisenberg/ FIND REMY ON SOCIAL X: https://x.com/remy_gaskell Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@aiwithremy AI with Remy: https://www.aiwithremy.com/

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• 0:00Greg Isenberg?

  Yeah, you've probably heard of Instinct AI by now. You know, the invite-only, personal agent app that's raising money at a rumored $10 billion? Well, what does it look like inside? And what are some use cases? And what are some crazy things that you can do with it? Like, you know, saving money on your phone bills or getting a visa approved in a foreign country with only three messages? Well, today, me and my friend Remy are going to show you the inside of Instinct AI, the secretive invite-only app. We're going to show you how it works, where it shines, and where it could use a little bit of help. The TLDR is it really does feel like the personal agent app for everyone, including your mom.

• 0:42Greg Isenberg?

  I've got a few extra invites, so if you like, comment, and subscribe to the channel, I'll give it out to some random people. And I hope someone from Instinct watches this and just piles me with a thousand invites that I can give to everyone. So let's get those likes, comments, and subscribes going, and I'll see you by the end of the episode.

• 1:07Greg Isenberg?

  AI with Remy's here. By the end of this episode, what are people going to learn?

• 1:13Speaker 01

  I'm going to give you an overview on the new agent product, Instinct, that has just come out. We're going to go through the good and the bad. I think they've done a lot of things well and some things not so well. So yeah, by the end, you're going to get a full overview on the product as a whole and how you can be using it within your life.

• 1:29Greg Isenberg?

  So different use cases, what you like about it, what you don't like about it, why it's interesting, why you should pay, you know, pay attention to it or not.

• 1:38Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 1:39Greg Isenberg?

  By the end of this, people, I think, you know, what I hope, Remy, is that people just don't understand what Instinct AI is and how to use it, but also just it gets people's creative juices flowing around personal agents in general.

• 1:52Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. I think there's some cool lessons to be taken to apply to your own business with how the founders like rolled it out, how they've been, how they've built it with like network effects, some cool things like that as well.

• 2:04Greg Isenberg?

  Cool. Let's, let's get into it.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  Sweet. So I just wanted to touch as well on like what I think it did really, really well and then what I think it did really, really poorly. So what I think it did well is the right amount of dialogue, not too verbose, used reactions really, really well, and understands them too. Like, I could thumbs up react to messages. It would ask me for approval and I could just thumbs up react and it would take that as a yes. The utilizes Apple iMessage features really, really well, like the loud messages, the confetti reactions. It can listen to your voice notes that you send through Apple Messages. And this one, this one was like genuinely blew my mind. It was, I sent it a GamePigeon game. Greg, do you know GamePigeon, like the iMessage games?

• 2:48Greg Isenberg?

  I can't say I do.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  So.

• 2:50Greg Isenberg?

  I feel like I should.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  You, like, this was a thing like back when I was like younger, you could send, it was like an app called GamePigeon and you can send games, you play games through iMessage with people. So I sent Instinct this CutPong one and sent it off to it and it, and it came back and started playing the game with me. I was like genuinely gobsmacked. We'll see if it does it here.

• 3:16Greg Isenberg?

  Waiting for opponent?

• 3:20Speaker 01

  Give it, give it like a minute.

• 3:22Greg Isenberg?

  It says it right.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, straight away back on your table, your move. So you can see, I was, I was playing CutPong and it's nailing it.

• 3:35Greg Isenberg?

  That's crazy.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  Just absolutely cleaned up and then now it was my turn to play back. So that was, that was like a really, really nice touch. Like, I'm trying to, I'm imagining that the Instinct team would like, would have gone through so much extra dev to get these GamePigeon games to work. They have to have actually coded that. I can't imagine that it's just genuinely doing it, doing it itself. So that was super impressive. Memory was, was cool. So when I asked it a question in the chat about trying to get my monitor box wrapped, when it filled out the Visa on Arrival card, I noticed that it put in a thing about like how many suitcases and it added in like the monitor that was being checked into oversized. So little things like that, I noticed that it would pull things and ideas that I'd said earlier that I'd even forgotten about and pull them into current conversations. So it did that really, really well.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  Productivity, as you saw, it just like reaches out and when I asked it to find me a place like a friend a desk in Bali, it messaged me the next morning and said, by the way, if you want it same day, the cutoff is 12, so order it this morning. Little things like that were really nice. Overall, the simplicity, so this ties into this one below, is it's basically just OpenClaw or Hermes Agent, but for regular people. And I think that Hermes Agent and OpenClaw, as great as they are, they keep getting further and further out of reach for normal people because the power users all love them and they need to keep releasing new features to keep up with what the power users want. But every new feature they add to cater to that group moves it further out of reach for a normal person who doesn't really understand agents very well and is trying to use them to take tasks off their plate.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  So I think that this is just like, yeah, they've done it really, really well as like a, a personal assistant agent for like mass market general consumers. I think they've done it absolutely flawlessly. And also too, the use cases, none of them individually are life-changing. They just took like 10, 15 minutes off my plate here and there, but add that up and I can see it like genuinely being really useful, saving me hours over the course of the week. I also thought, Greg, I'm curious to get your thoughts on this, but the invite-only approach that they took, I thought was really, really interesting.

• 5:44Greg Isenberg?

  Yeah. I mean, it reminds me of Clubhouse, like the early days of Clubhouse.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  I'm not familiar with Clubhouse.

• 5:50Greg Isenberg?

  Oh, man. Oh, man. Remy, Remy, Remy. So in 2020, there was a Twitter, basically Twitter Spaces app that was invite-only and you'd go into these like rooms and like Naval was speaking and Elon Musk would be in rooms and like it was, but it was invite-only.

• 6:15Greg Isenberg?

  And they ended up raising money at like, I don't know, $4 billion valuation. And it became this thing that, you know, got really big. That being said, you know, it never lived up to the $4 billion valuation. So I think the question a lot of people are going to have for this is, is this a Clubhouse moment or is Instinct going to live up? There's, it's rumored that it's raising money at a $10 billion valuation right now.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  Which is just crazy. That's absolutely insane. So I don't know, who knows? But I think that the way that they did the invite was, was pretty clever because it made like, it just, if I, if I had instant access to it and I probably wouldn't have even signed up because it's just every, every new post you scroll past on X is introducing X agent, introducing Y agent. It's like, but, but the way they did it was super secretive and like I couldn't get access and as soon as I got a code, it was like, oh, I'm invited. So they, they say they're rolling it out like that for compute, but I kind of think that it was a marketing play as well, which is cool. And then Greg, the trusted person network that they released or are releasing is really, really cool. So Noah, the founder tweeted this, I think yesterday, talking about the trusted person

• 7:30Speaker 01

  network. So they are basically releasing this feature where you can add other people's instincts as an like an allow list into your instinct. So you can have like instinct to instinct communication, which I think is like an incredible example of network effects. If they can get on it early and like capture a good portion of the market, I think that that could work really, really well for them.

• 7:55Greg Isenberg?

  Yeah. I think when I read this, it really, what really blew my mind is that it's the equivalent of net, uh, network effects, but for the agentic era. Like, I think, you know, a lot of people weren't thinking about network effects in this way. And I think that, yeah, when, when you read the tweet, it makes absolute, you know, makes so much sense, right? Of course you want your agent to coordinate with other agents to get stuff done.

• 8:24Greg Isenberg?

  And I think a lot of people have questions now around, you know, especially in the startup ideas and just the venture-backed startup world is like, do, you know, where are the moats of these companies? And I think you're going to start seeing more and more companies do stuff like this.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, agreed. I mean, it'd be interesting to see if they end up opening it so you can have like your, your muse agents talk to Instinct agents or whether they keep it a closed network. I'm really curious to see what, like what route they go down, but I think this is just like a really, really, really cool feature.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Uh. The other thing was, yeah, the super fast computer use. Like, I, I, I think a lot of these use cases, you could make an argument that you could do it with Grokbot, but I find that the Grokbot computer use is really, really slow. And I found that the, uh, Instinct's computer use was just super fast and seamless. You can't even see it. I'm assuming it's using a computer in the backend. Uh, and then like time off, I think that it just fills the whole of a personal assistant AI within my stack like really, really nicely. I don't really see myself using this for anything business, work, coding related, but just for haircut bookings, like restaurant bookings, making plans. I think that that's, it's gonna be really, really helpful. And notice too, they also added in, yeah, they also added in this feature where every instinct now has its own email address.

• 9:42Speaker 01

  So my Instinct's email address is like remi and my last name at, at mail dot instinct dot com. So now it can use that inbox to, to sort out bookings and do its like PA tasks for you without clogging up your inbox, which I think was really cool. Also, one of the features they said was you can just loop it into an email thread. So if you're in an email thread and like it involves a task that you want Instinct to handle, you can just kind of forward it, the thread, and it can be looped in and, uh, finish it off for you, which I thought was a really, really cool feature too.

• 10:12Greg Isenberg?

  So is your recommendation for business tasks, use Hermes, OpenClaw, Grokbot? And then for personal tasks, use Instinct?

• 10:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's how I'm, that's how I'm rocking it right now. Uh, I'm using like, I'm, I'm loving Codex at the moment. I think they've done an incredible job. So I pretty much keep a lot of my work stuff within split between like Codex, Claude, Code, Grokbot. And then this is just fills the whole perfectly for a personal assistant AI. So yeah, that's exactly how I'm using it. One note too, on like the, the OpenClaw and Hermes for regular people, like I set up a Hermes agent for my mom. So she could just have a personal agent to, to use for this kind of stuff. But it's still involved, like I had to set up a VPS with like Docker and then set it up for her. Uh, I then had to get her to use Composio so she could connect her tools up. The gateway crashes here and there and then it needs an update. Just a, a pain in the ass.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  And then like I have to manage that too. And there's no way that she was gonna set that up for herself. So I think that this is just, I think these simpler agent products for, for the mass consumer market, um, especially like what they've done here and how they've built this, they've done it really, really well. The, the stuff they did poorly was, I'm not gonna put down like some of those issues with ordering food and grabs in Indonesia to Instinct. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt. But I, I think that security and privacy is something that I've seen as major cons to Instinct. There's a tweet from Claire where she's talking about how she disconnected her bot from Google at 11:00 AM, but got a summary of her emails at 12. So it's obviously indexed them and kept copies of all her emails,

• 11:45Speaker 01

  which is a big concern. Another one from Pete Yang as well, where he said, yeah, it's the same thing. In, in indexing and retaining all his emails without their permission. And people also too, I saw in the comments, pointed out, uh, things too about in Instinct's terms and conditions, they have some really, uh, concerning things about retaining and keeping control of some of your private data like emails. So if that's a big concern for you, I think it's definitely something you need to, um, yeah, look into with, with Instinct.

• 12:17Greg Isenberg?

  I mean, yeah, of course it's a concern. You know what I mean? Like, I think like in an ideal world, Instinct is by Apple. And I just have way more trust in Apple than a startup, just by definition. But the reality is, Apple is not there yet. And the reality is, this product could save me hours a week. And it's the hours a week that of stuff that I hate doing. And so it frees up my mind so I can build my own ideas and build other stuff that's actually high leverage. So it's one of those things where, you know, obviously I have no affiliation and you have no affiliation with Instinct.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, not at all.

• 12:59Greg Isenberg?

  Um, but like we, we, we'd like tools that help us to make our lives easier.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent. Uh, like this is definitely gonna be a tool that I continue to use for sure. Uh, I, I can see it definitely fitting into my stack super, super nicely. So, uh, as soon as I signed in with Instinct, it's, I can't remember the exact flow, but it was, you, you sign in with a phone number. And then straight away, it kind of got me into iMessage. And then this was like a, a, a message that it fired off as part of its onboarding. And that was the first thing that like blew me away is how simple the onboarding was. I think that's where a lot of AI products lack, especially if they're trying to go with like the mass consumer, general market. The onboarding is not straightforward and clear enough. Like people underestimate how,

• 13:47Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna say like how dumb the average person is, but I think that, uh, as, you know, we're, we're in a bubble, Greg, and this stuff's like super simple for us. But for people like my mom, who's super smart in like other aspects of life, uh, she would just struggle to understand like basic AI stuff that you and I take for granted. So that was the first thing it did super, super well is, is simple, clear onboarding. There's no concept of MCPs, CLI's, markdown files. It was just login with the phone number, bang, you're in. And then this, oh, the first thing as well is it utilizes the native Apple iMessage things really well. Like, uh, these little confetti animations, it sends those natively.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  And I've noticed that throughout my entire conversation. If there's something like important, it'll use like the loud effect and it will make the message go big. So I just thought that was a really, really nice touch.

• 14:37Greg Isenberg?

  So it feels, it feels human and even, I mean, we'll get into it later, but like when you, when you read the text, it really does feel like it's a personal assistant that is a human being.

• 14:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent. Uh, and then off the rip, it's straight away, like sends me pictures of like, here's some use cases. Here's what I can do for you. And then straight away, like demos some really cool things like booking flights,

• 14:59Speaker 01

  uh, check you into your flights, you know, ordering food, cancelling subscriptions, um, booking movie tickets, you know, adding stuff to calendar. Another cool one here, I noticed that it shows off, you can send voice notes, which is cool. Uh, and then just straight away, like I'm running any but only beta program, here's your link. I also thought it'd be cool to, I'm gonna open the platform that goes alongside the, the agent view. So this is the platform that ships alongside the agent view that we get. So just super simple workspace. It's like, here are your contact methods. I've set up both iMessage and WhatsApp to chat to it on. And then connectors, I've connected up my email accounts and then Slack, granola,

• 15:44Speaker 01

  uh, and then link for payments, which I'll, which I'll get into in a minute. But I didn't bother connecting up other things like Outlook and Linear and these other like GitHub and stuff. Because I, like, I see this fit really nicely into my stack as a personal assistant agent. Uh, and I think that they've marketed it quite well as that. And like Noah in his announcement post was pretty clear. He's like focusing on building the best like personal assistant AI product. Then the next thing I noticed is it's got a vault where you can save in things like logins for different websites, uh, cards as well, which I've given it two credit cards, and then addresses that you can save in there as well, as well as like phones. Um, and then preferences, I think this is just for, you know, sign in methods and some data controls.

• 16:29Speaker 01

  There's a couple of other features as well. They've rolled out a trusted Instinct agent network, which I'll go into later as well, but that isn't showing up for me there because they're rolling out these features just to certain users at a time. We're like slow dripping them out. So there's a few things that I don't quite have unlocked yet. But the, the interface is super simple. Like I can just, you know, like I, when I think about this product, I'm thinking about like the general everyday consumer. I just think about like my mom and how like amazing this would be for, for her and her life. So I can see people like that just being able to have this bookmarked and then easily just connect up whatever tools they need. I can't really see many people needing more than an email and maybe some kind of payment method, just for like everyday assistant type tasks.

• 17:12Speaker 01

  So yeah, pretty cool. This little workspace, I think they've done that really well. Back into the agent session. So like you said, like I don't know what tasks to give you. And it started to flag some things from my granola and my, uh, emails. But I didn't really wanna go down the work route here. Flag like things related to, to my work stuff. But I really like clearly had in mind, like, I, I see this filling the role of a personal AI assistant for scheduling, like appointments. Nothing like business or work related or coding related tasks. So, uh, I then had the idea, I wanted to, I wanted to like get a, a, a wavy perm on my hair. Cause I've like, I had like dead straight hair. So as you can see, got it done. It looks pretty good.

• 17:55Speaker 01

  So I messaged Instinct and I was like, can you message this place in Bali on WhatsApp, asking if they do perms? And then straight away, it, it couldn't message the, the account on WhatsApp. So it just sort of directed me to do it myself. Uh, which I like first little thing where I felt a little bit of friction. And then I asked it to find me places in Copenhagen and it went away and like started researching a bunch of spots. And then it pulled in reviews and it said, want me to check who's got openings next week? And I asked it to go and find some photos, which it sent me. It sent me some more as well down here. Uh, and then I asked it for some more options. It just did a bunch of research, mainly looking at like reviews.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  And then it's, I, I picked one and asked it to check their availability. And it tried to book, but then, uh, it ran into the wall of it needed a Danish phone number. So then it just emailed them. Uh, and then I said, yeah, please book the Saturday spot. It, it emailed them. And then it just said, okay, great. I've emailed them because I couldn't book without a Danish phone number. And it's like, I'll just ping you when they reply. And then, uh, straight away, it just said, I mean, this was like a few hours later, it just reached out and I was like, confirmed, you're booked. Um, I heard back from them, which is

• 19:15Greg Isenberg?

  I wonder if they, they know that an AI agent booked it, or do they think it's a human being?

• 19:22Speaker 01

  I think they would have thought it was a human being. I remember I actually, I went and looked at the email it sent because I was curious like how the, the writing style was. And I remember, I don't have it up in front of me right now, but I remember being pretty impressed with how it wrote it. It sounded very, very human. Uh, so that was the first thing. And like, to be fair, I did a lot more back and forth here than I needed because when I'm trying out new agent products, it's like a bit of a teething process in the beginning to try and like feel, feel it out and see where it gets stuck and where it doesn't. So there were lots of times when because they've made it so simple, you can't see what the agent's doing or what it's working on. So the times when it would go silent for five minutes and I would follow up, go like, hey, did you get that? And, and, and

• 20:04Speaker 01

  it was working away in the background, but now I've started to realize that when it just goes silent, like it's not broken, it's just, it's handling it. So now I just feel more confident when I just give it a task and I can just put my phone away and not worry. And it'll get, come back like 10, 15 minutes later sometimes. So yeah, booked me in. That was the first task is it, is it booked in a haircut, which was cool. And then I asked it while I was sitting there in the, in the haircut chair about booking a restaurant for three. So it went in and checked what availabilities are open for, for Bistro Central. And then it pulled in a couple of times. And I just said, can we book a table for seven forty-five? And then it says, come back, it says all staged, just needs a card on file for the no show hold. And this was when I was like, oh shit, we're getting

• 20:49Speaker 01

  real, we're getting into the, uh, we're giving the agent a card. And it just sent me straight away. It sent me this link to just add in a card, like card details. And that took me to this page here. I mean, it no longer works, but it literally just was an instinct back to that workspace I showed just before, but it had a field for name, card number, um, expiry and then CV. So the way I did this is obviously I'm not completely negligent. So I, you, I use Wise for like my banking. So I just created a new Wise card. You can spin up like new digital cards really, really easy for like Apple Pay. And so I spun up a new digital card, set a daily spending limit on it for about five hundred dollars. And, cause you know, if like the agent goes nuts and if the max it spends is

• 21:34Speaker 01

  five hundred dollars, it's not the end of the world for me. So, um, did that. And then I just gave it the card details for that daily limited card. So then I just kind of felt a little bit more comfortable because like the, the blast radius would be contained. And then, uh, straight away here, added it. And it, it reacts to messages, which I find quite cool. There's sometimes as well, like it, I find it has a really nice balance of knowing, uh, when to reply and when to just react to stuff. So sometimes like it doesn't always give you a reply, it'll just react, which is, I think like a nice touch. Cause I think Greg, uh, as you know, a lot of these models now, you're talking to them, they're like overly verbose and just like word vomit back at you. So

• 22:17Greg Isenberg?

  Exactly. I mean, again, goes back to being like human, you know, a human being knows when to react to something and when to write. And I think that's like the big aha moment that people are having with instinct is, it just, it's scary, it's scary human. It's like, it's so, it's so human, it's scary.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. A hundred percent agreed. So that was really seamless there. That booking was like, I was pretty impressed. I mean, obviously I had to stop to add the card, but it was just straight away, check if they've got availability, bang, added the card, straight away booked it. And then I had the confirmation email come through. So that was, that was, that was really, really cool. And then I started just, um, added it into my calendar. And then I asked it again for some more restaurant bookings, uh, the next night, which was cool. Uh, and then this was, this was where I like started to really push the boundaries. I, I asked it because I was in Copenhagen and then heading to Bali for three weeks. So I, I, this is the message I sent it right here. It was just, can you please sort out my Bali visa? I'm an Australian citizen, uh, heading there on this

• 23:20Speaker 01

  date until the end of the month, just on visa on arrival. And it came back and it did, just it gave me a little checklist of everything that it needed. And then, uh, the next thing I did was I asked it to sign me up to Emirates Skywards as well, because you can get free wifi on Emirates flights if you're signed up to Skywards. So two, like gen- generally, uh, genuinely like useful things off my plate there and, and quite risky things with the visa too. So sent those off, uh, came back then, it asked for a photo of my passport, which I willingly obliged. Uh, so sent it a photo of my passport. It said, um, passport's good. And then it says like straight away, that

• 24:02Speaker 01

  also gives me the date of birth for the Skyward signup, which was like, cool. So it's, it's like working on both those tasks for me. And then gave me the list of, of what else it needed. I sent it a photo of me. And then, um, just asked it like, you know, arriving on the ninth, but if my flight gets delayed, is that okay? And then asked it to find the address, um, from Airbnb as well. So yeah, delays no problem. Uh, anyway, moving on, it just started to go through getting what it needed from me. Here we go. So here's, here's where it had everything it needed. And then straight away, it sent me my visa on arrival, my PDF. And I was like, pretty, pretty blown away by that. As soon as I like had what it needed, because like there was a bit of back and forth

• 24:44Speaker 01

  because I hadn't like got my shit together. But, uh, once I had what I needed, it sorted the visa out for me. One of the questions it asked me for the arrival card, it needed to know like what countries I had been in the last three months. And it went through my emails and Airbnb receipts. And it, it actually gave me a list. It was, uh, said to me, uh, I need a list of everybody been in three months. Here's what I've got so far. Did I miss anything? And it got everything spot on. So that was cool. And then it, uh, and when I got to, when I got to Bali, I was like sweating a little bit because as you know, like they, they are, they don't mess around with, with immigration stuff. You, you'll be deported from there pretty quick if you, um, if you get something wrong. So

• 25:25Speaker 01

  I was rocked up to the gate and scanned my passport, like fingers crossed, hoping that everything like did it. Like I placed my trust in instinct to do this for me. So I put my passport down and then the gate, like we did a little like beep, scanned, opened. And yeah, it was a, it was a cool moment.

• 25:43Greg Isenberg?

  Totally. It's a, it's a lot of trust to put in instinct. And I bet you those immigration guards haven't heard about instinct, you know, it's not like you'd be like, I had instinct to it.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, there was no, like, there was no, uh, um, yeah, pushing the blame onto someone else there.

• 26:00Greg Isenberg?

  All right. Well, I think that's it. Um, Remy, thank you for coming on and breaking it down for us like always. Uh, I'll, I'll include links for where you can follow AI with Remy in the show notes in the description. Um, anything you want to leave people with, Remy?

• 26:19Speaker 01

  I think this is a great one to get your non-technical, those people that you have in your life where you are like super in love with using agents and you do everything with agents and, and build amazing products. And everyone has those people in their life that aren't quite hooked on it yet. They haven't had that aha moment. And I think the instinct can be the one to give it to them. So if you manage to get access, I think this is a great one to share and get your non-technical, uh, people who aren't using agents properly yet, get them on it.

• 26:49Greg Isenberg?

  So send them this episode so they can learn about it. It's still invite only. I've got about, I think, seven invites. So if you comment and like this video, I'll give it away to some random people. Um, and, uh, you know, I wish I had seven thousand because I feel like we're going to get a ton of comments and likes, but you know, hopefully if this gets a ton of likes, comments and stuff like that, the Instinct team will reach out and we'll, we'll, we'll try to get more, uh, more invites out. So Remy, thanks again. You're a legend.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  No, it's great. Thank you so much for having me.

• 27:25Greg Isenberg?

  And, uh, I'll see you next time.

• 27:28Speaker 01

  Thanks.