Why You Can’t Get What You Actually Want

What if the self you keep trying to serve isn't actually you at all? In this lecture, the final stop of a 60 city tour, Jordan Peterson begins with an unlikely admission from the world's most famous atheist and follows it into the two shortest, densest paragraphs in the Bible: the story of two brothers and the offerings they make. From there he traces a single thread through the whole architecture of a human life, why the child who insists on his own way ends up with no friends, why a marriage cannot survive on getting what you want, and how a thousand quiet hours of resentment turn an ordinary person into someone capable of the unthinkable. What he uncovers is not a rule about religion but a question your own conscience has been asking you all along, one that decides whether the world opens up in front of you or closes in. The answer has nothing to do with belief in the usual sense, and everything to do with what you're willing to give up. This lecture was filmed on June 25, 2024, in Mexico City, Mexico. Unlock the ad-free experience of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast and dive into exclusive bonus content on DailyWire+. Start watching now: http://dwpluspeterson.com/yt ALL LINKS: https://feedlink.io/jordanbpeterson // LINKS // Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com Books - https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/books/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:00Jordan B. Peterson?

  Hello, everybody. Welcome to the seventh of my release tour lectures from We Who Wrestle with God. A little update for the week. Well, the biggest news is that I have a new grandson. Francis Fuller, eight pounds, one ounce, born at 11:14 PM on July 29th. So that's number seven. It's so good to have kids around. My son released an album this week called Overcome. It's available on Spotify. It details the various things that him and his family have gone through in the last few years.

• 2:43Jordan B. Peterson?

  He opened for my tour. That was exciting. I enjoyed that a lot, so give that a listen. We released the climate piece. We released a piece detailing out, I would say, the big climate lie, the failure of the modelers to take into account the effect of carbon dioxide on plant growth, which has been phenomenal. So you can check that out on X or at The Telegraph, because The Telegraph published it in its entirety. Anyways, on with the show. I hope you find it useful, challenging, provocative, compelling. All those things a lecture should be.

• 3:29Jordan B. Peterson?

  The question of belief currently plagues the world. And that's true culturally and politically. Say with regards to so-called identity politics. Identity isn't politics, by the way. Identity is something much more fundamental than politics. And so when we have identity politics, we have the collapse of the sacred into the political. And that's a reflection of the death of God, and that is not a good thing.

• 4:11Jordan B. Peterson?

  That is failure to keep those things that should be rendered unto Caesar separate from those things that should be rendered unto God. Tonight, we're going to investigate what it means to believe, I would say. And we're going to do that in relationship to the biblical stories, which is what this book that the tour is based on is about. Is the Bible true? Well, the first issue you have to wrestle with,

• 4:52Jordan B. Peterson?

  if you're going to pose that question, is, well, what's the Bible about? And you have to understand the argument that it's dramatizing in order to address that issue squarely. And you might ask, why bother? And I suppose the simplest answer to that is, whether you're an atheist or a believer, a Christian, let's say, or a Jew, you can't escape the fact that the civilization that dominates the world,

• 5:35Jordan B. Peterson?

  for better or worse, Western civilization, is a product of the biblical text. And so wrestling with it is inescapable. What are we wrestling with? What's the Bible about? The Bible presents a characterization of God. It presents multiple, specific characterizations of God in a manner that integrate into a unity.

• 6:15Jordan B. Peterson?

  The unity is the monotheistic God of the biblical corpus. The Bible is a characterization of God. It's also a characterization of man and woman and society, and a portrayal of the relationship or the covenant between man, woman, society, and God. And so is that characterization valid? That's the same question as whether or not the Bible is true. Well, what's the characterization? So that's the question we'll investigate tonight.

• 7:00Jordan B. Peterson?

  Now, this is the last lecture for me of a 60-city tour. I'll be hitting the road again with Tammy and my crew in November, when my book comes out. But this is the end of the first run of the public events that are associated with We Who Wrestle with God. And it's a very good time for me to take stock, because I've had 60 lectures to practice. And all the time that I was touring, I was also writing.

• 7:38Jordan B. Peterson?

  And so tonight, I'm going to try to integrate. Richard Dawkins said something about the Bible. You know Dawkins. He's perhaps the most famous of the four horsemen of the atheist movement, the new atheist movement, a movement which is looking a little shaky at the moment, by the way. Not least because of Dawkins' recent announcement that he was a cultural Christian, which of course begs the question, if Richard Dawkins, the world's most famous atheist, is a cultural Christian, just exactly what did the Christians get right?

• 8:22Jordan B. Peterson?

  Because it's obviously something, and it's obviously something significant enough so that even the world's most famous atheist, when push comes to shove, which is what's happening, is forced, despite himself, perhaps, although I believe he is a man who in many ways is pursuing the truth, to publicly proclaim that we better not throw the baby out with the bathwater, especially if it happens to be the divine child that we're disposing of, so to speak.

• 9:01Jordan B. Peterson?

  Dawkins, ich glaube, es war Dawkins, sagte einmal, dass wenn die biblischen Geschichten wahr sind, dann war es nicht eine wissenschaftliche Entdeckung, sozusagen, von Not in den ganzen Text.

• 9:17Jordan B. Peterson?

  Eine Antwort darauf ist, dass die Wahrheit, die in der biblischen Bibliothek enthalten ist, literarische Wahrheit oder moralische Wahrheit, statt wissenschaftliche Wahrheit. Und das ist eine reasonable Ablehnung, weil es eine Unterschiede zwischen der moralischen Wahrheit, die eine Struktur der Erkenntnis und einen Weg der Aktion legt, und der wissenschaftlichen Wahrheit, die das Welt beschreibt. Das sind nicht die gleichen Dinge. Wir wissen nicht, wie wir den Gleichgewinn zwischen dem, was ist, und dem, was sollte es sein, wie David Hume, der Philosoph, so bekannt, darauf hingewiesen hat. Aber ich würde auch Ablehnung zu Dawkins machen,

• 10:00Jordan B. Peterson?

  dass es nichts wissenschaftliches Wertes in dem biblischen Text gibt, weil ich nicht glaube, dass das wahr ist. Ich denke, dass die tiefsten Erkenntnisse von Evolutionpsychologie, Biologie und die Moral, die in dem biblischen Text porträtiert wird, tatsächlich einstiegsgemäß sind. Und ich denke auch, dass das der Fall sein muss, so weit, dass beides wahr ist. Das ist die Schlussfolgerung, die Sie machen würden, wenn Sie angenommen oder beobachtet hätten, dass die Wahrheit im Schlussanalyse eine Einheit ist.

• 10:36Jordan B. Peterson?

  Was ist eine der grundlegenden Wahrheiten der biblischen Bibliothek, die als akzeptabel und neu, brillant sogar, auf den wissenschaftlichen Seiten, wahrgenommen werden könnte? Die Wahrheit, dass psychologische Stabilität und Maturität und soziale Integrität und das Selbstgesellschaft auf dem Gebet basieren.

• 11:07Jordan B. Peterson?

  Also, was bedeutet das?

• 11:10Jordan B. Peterson?

  Die Bibel charakterisiert Gott. Sie charakterisiert Mann, Frau und Gesellschaft. Und sie charakterisiert die Beziehung zwischen Mann, Frau, Gesellschaft und Gott. Und sie repräsentiert diese Beziehung als sacrifiziert. Und das Verständnis ist,

• 11:32Jordan B. Peterson?

  es gibt nichts wichtiger, als das Verständnis, was das bedeutet. Und ich meine nicht das Verständnis, dass es eine Glaubwürde ist, ich glaube, Jesus Christus ist der Sohn von Gott, zum Beispiel. Das stellt die Frage, was Sie meinen Glauben? Ich meine, das Verständnis, was die biblische Beschreibung des Gebetes bedeutet, so tief, dass es komprehensibel

• 12:04Jordan B. Peterson?

  und ich würde sagen, unverschöpfbar, philosophisch und gleichzeitig etwas immenser, kontinuierlicher und sofortiger praktischer Bedeutung. Also, um das zu verstehen, müssen Sie es in der höchsten möglichen Art verstehen, auf dem höchsten Niveau der Abstraktion. Aber Sie müssen es in der höchsten Art verstehen, das Verständnis, so gut wie möglich, dass es jede Entscheidung, die Sie treffen, dazu führt, dass Sie sich oder Ihre Augen bewegen.

• 12:37Speaker 05

  Schauen Sie sich Ihre Lieblingslektüre vor. Diale sie auf Max, legen sie sie auf Steroids und dann hinzufügen Sie einige cinematice Elemente. Das ist die beste Art, wie ich eine Peterson-Akademie-Lektüre beschreiben könnte.

• 12:51Speaker 06

  Ich ging zum College, weil ich es musste. Ich gehe zum Peterson Academy, weil ich es will. Ich zahle noch 10 Jahre lang den College aus und ich frage mich auch noch, was ich aus dem College bekommen habe.

• 13:00Speaker 05

  In traditionellen Universitäten ist es oft sehr kalt. Sie bringen nicht die gleiche Energie wie die Professoren im Peterson Academy.

• 13:08Speaker 06

  Es ist eine völlig andere Erfahrung, wenn man von jemandem lernt, der wirklich will, dich zu lernen.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  Wenn Sie über dieses Thema auf der Wand sind, ist es der Zeitpunkt. Das, was Sie zu Ihnen rufen, haben Sie keine Antwort, unabhängig davon, ob Sie sich ausüben und selbst sehen. Sie haben die Möglichkeit, dieses Gebet zu untersuchen.

• 13:31Jordan B. Peterson?

  Okay. Wir beginnen die Prüfung der Charakterisierung und des sacrifizierten Motivs mit der Geschichte von Cain und Abel. Es ist eine sehr kurze Geschichte. Es ist eine seltsame kurze Geschichte. Es ist nur zwei Paragrafen lang. Es ist unglaublich gesperrt und dünn. Und es legt wirklich den Kampfplatz zwischen zwei verschiedenen sacrifischen Ansätzen für die Leben. Nicht nur zwei verschiedene sacrifische Ansätze für die Leben,

• 14:15Jordan B. Peterson?

  sondern die zwei verschiedenen sacrifischen Ansätze für die Leben, die die Konflikt in der menschlichen Seele charakterisieren, die ewzige politische Kämpfe und die Kämpfe zwischen Gut und Schicksal auf dem Niveau des Universums selbst.

• 14:41Jordan B. Peterson?

  Was bedeutet das Gebet?

• 14:45Jordan B. Peterson?

  Dies ist der Riss. Wenn moderne Menschen die Geschichte von Cain und Abel lesen,

• 14:51Jordan B. Peterson?

  die archäische Dramatisierung

• 14:55Jordan B. Peterson?

  ist ein Hindernis zum Verständnis.

• 15:01Jordan B. Peterson?

  Abel macht einen Altar. Und auf diesem Altar erzittert, brüllt, die besten Körner der besten Tiere seiner Flotte. Und er verspricht das Gott. Jetzt ist das eine schwierige Sache für moderne Menschen, ihre Köpfe umzubringen. Wir verstehen nicht wirklich den Zweck des Altars. Wir verstehen nicht, warum diese archäischen Menschen einen Verspricht erzitterten. Wir verstehen nicht, was der Verspricht bedeutet. Und wir verstehen nicht, warum das, was versprochen wird, das, was versprochen wird.

• 15:46Jordan B. Peterson?

  Und das ist ein wichtiges Problem. Besonders weil die Geschichte von Cain und Abel den Rahmen für das Verständnis des ganzen

• 15:58Jordan B. Peterson?

  Patterns der Geschichte, der die Bibel charakterisiert, nach dieser Geschichte, wie sie sich entwickelt.

• 16:08Jordan B. Peterson?

  Die erste Frage ist, was bedeutet es, das Gebet?

• 16:19Jordan B. Peterson?

  Es bedeutet, etwas zu geben.

• 16:24Jordan B. Peterson?

  Warum müssen Sie etwas geben?

• 16:33Jordan B. Peterson?

  Na, schauen Sie sich vor, dass Sie eine Beziehung mit einer Frau oder einem Mann in Ihrem Ehe wollen.

• 16:43Jordan B. Peterson?

  Ist es alles um Sie?

• 16:47Jordan B. Peterson?

  Na, probieren Sie es aus und sehen, wie es funktioniert.

• 16:52Jordan B. Peterson?

  Meine Sorge ist, dass Ihre Frau ablehnt.

• 16:56Jordan B. Peterson?

  Was es alles um ist, ist nicht alles um Sie. Und es gibt eine weitere Frage. Selbst wenn es alles um Sie war, genau, was meinen Sie, dass es alles um Sie ist? Meinen Sie, dass es alles um das, was die am meisten unähmliche Teile von Ihnen jetzt und zum Himmel mit allem anderen? Weil generell, selbst wenn Sie ein kleiner Kind sind und es alles um Sie ist, was es tatsächlich bedeutet, ist, dass es alles um das, was irgendwelche Wimme, irgendwelche kürzliche und unähmliche Wimme an der Zeit Sie annehmen. Also, selbst wenn es alles um Sie ist, das "Sie", das es alles um ist, ist nicht ein integriertes und einheitliches "Sie",

• 17:41Jordan B. Peterson?

  es ist ein instinktives Druck, das Sie an der Zeit annehmen, das sofortige Gratulation erfordert, unabhängig von dem Preis.

• 17:58Jordan B. Peterson?

  Das Gebet ist notwendig, weil Dinge einen Preis haben.

• 18:04Jordan B. Peterson?

  Also, selbst wenn es alles um Sie ist, in einem Ehen, das nicht funktioniert, das "Sie", das es alles um ist, ist nicht nur Sie. Es ist ein Teil von Ihnen, das Sie in seine Kontrolle hat, dass Sie essentiell in einer starken, unähmlichen und kontraproduktiven Art worshipen.

• 18:29Jordan B. Peterson?

  Wenn Sie sagen, ich will, was Sie wirklich sagen, wenn das Sprichwort unähmlich ist, ist, dass etwas in Ihnen, das Sie erlaubt hat, Sie annehmen, will.

• 18:45Jordan B. Peterson?

  El niño que sólo quiere jugar el juego de su manera no tiene amigos. ¿Por qué? Bueno, porque para tener amigos todo el mundo toma una vuelta. No sólo para jugar en los confines de un juego dado, sino para elegir el juego que va a ser jugado. Y así, si quieres tener amigos entonces sacrificas tu propia omnipotencia para que puedas tener una comunidad. Y eso es lo que haces en un matrimonio. sacrificas

• 19:29Jordan B. Peterson?

  la necesidad de la gratificación inmediata de tus

• 19:35Jordan B. Peterson?

  impacientes a...

• 19:40Jordan B. Peterson?

  ¿A qué?

• 19:42Jordan B. Peterson?

  ¿Exactamente?

• 19:45Jordan B. Peterson?

  A la mantenimiento de la relación.

• 19:49Jordan B. Peterson?

  Tu esposa, tu esposo

• 19:54Jordan B. Peterson?

  necesita estar alineado con ti ahora.

• 19:58Jordan B. Peterson?

  Y eso significa que hay restricciones en cómo interactúas con tu

• 20:09Jordan B. Peterson?

  pariente.

• 20:12Jordan B. Peterson?

  No sólo tienen que estar alineados con ti ahora, sino que tienen que estar alineados con ti mañana. Y tienen que estar alineados con ti la próxima semana, el próximo mes, el próximo año, y en una década de ahora, y 20 años de ahora, y 50 años de ahora. Y así lo que eso significa es que mientras interactúas con cada gesto y palabra, si estás interactuando correctamente, estás interactuando de una manera que asegura la integración de tu relación ahora para que estés contento de estar en la compañía de los demás y jugando correctamente juntos de una manera que te hace querer continuar el juego, de una manera que hace el juego jugable

• 20:55Jordan B. Peterson?

  mañana, y la próxima semana, y el próximo mes, y el próximo año, y 10 años de ahora, y 50 años de ahora. Y así, tu modo de operación en el presente requiere que sacrifices lo que sea que algo en ti quiera ahora mismo a la necesidad de la aprobación y el amor de tu pariente. Pero no sólo esa aprobación y amor ahora mismo, sino ese amor y aprobación mientras se desarrolla reciprocamente a lo largo del árbol temporal más largo posible. Y eso no es todo, porque

• 21:37Jordan B. Peterson?

  no es sólo tú, y tampoco es sólo tú y tu esposa. Va a ser, digamos, tú y tu esposa, y tus hijos, y tú y tu esposa, y sus padres, y tus padres, y tus hermanos, y tus amigos, y tu comunidad. Y así lo que eso significa es que tienes que regular e integrar tus deseos por el momento con el futuro

• 22:14Jordan B. Peterson?

  en términos de la expansión de tus relaciones múltiples y la comunidad. Y puedes imaginar que hay una manera en la que eso podría ser llevado a cabo óptimamente, para que todos quieran jugar junto, para que no haya obligación para usar compulso o fuerza cuando podrías usar invitación al juego. Y puedes imaginar que

• 22:50Jordan B. Peterson?

  el juego ultimate que todos quieren jugar que funciona para el número más grande de personas a lo largo del giro posible de tiempo, es el

• 23:06Jordan B. Peterson?

  juego en el que todo deseo cercano tiene que ser subjugado

• 23:15Jordan B. Peterson?

  a. Y no hay diferencia entre eso y

• 23:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  ofrecer tus idiotas piernas al Espíritu de Dios. Es lo mismo. El Espíritu de Dios siendo la unidad ultimate que se alarga en el pico de la jerarquía de valores, que une todo en la manera más armoniosa posible.

• 23:46Jordan B. Peterson?

  ¿Qué hace Abel?

• 23:49Jordan B. Peterson?

  Bueno, Él inmolesta su sacrificio en el altar. Ok, así que vamos a... vamos a separar eso un poco.

• 23:57Jordan B. Peterson?

  Quienesquiera quiera algo en un altar

• 24:01Jordan B. Peterson?

  y lo convierta en humo, lo convierta en espíritu, digamos, un espíritu aéreo que se eleva. Y lo haces para que

• 24:17Jordan B. Peterson?

  el espíritu que está en el cielo, el ascendente ultimate, el espíritu que es trascendente y subordinante, el espíritu que vive en el cielo o el cielo pueda detectar la esencia de tu ofrecimiento. ¿Cuál es la hipótesis? La unidad que existe en el pico del ser evalúa la calidad de tu sacrificio.

• 24:46Jordan B. Peterson?

  Ahora, si crees que es más probable que te recompense cuando haces bien y menos probable que te recompense cuando haces una ofrecencia de segundo nivel o ofreces algo en el espíritu de la malevolencia, entonces crees que hay un espíritu trascendente que ve todo, que evalúa la calidad de tus ofrecimientos.

• 25:13Jordan B. Peterson?

  ¿Crees eso? ¿Su consciencia te llama a hacer tarea cuando ofreces menos de lo mejor que tienes? Esa es la misma pregunta. Abel es un jefe y ofrece lo mejor que tiene. ¿Por qué es un jefe? Porque un jefe

• 25:38Jordan B. Peterson?

  protege al flocks, cuida de los vulnerables, mantiene a los predadores, los cerdos y los leones en la bahía y ocupa su posición bajo y ordinaria con dignidad en el servicio. Abel es un jefe, como David,

• 26:02Jordan B. Peterson?

  como Moisés, como Cristo. Es una representación arquetipal de lo mejor de la masculinidad, esa capacidad de

• 26:15Jordan B. Peterson?

  mantener a los verdaderos predadores en la bahía y de proteger a lo más vulnerable. Abel es además el espíritu masculino que

• 26:28Jordan B. Peterson?

  sacrifica diligentemente, eso es su cuidado con los flocks, y que luego toma lo mejor de lo que tiene para ofrecer y lo ofrece hacia arriba a la meta más concebible. Lo que significa que Abel es él quien hace lo mejor. Cain por consecuencia mantiene algo en reserva. Sus sacrificios son sin sangre, no tienen costo. Son de segundo nivel. Y por consecuencia

• 27:13Jordan B. Peterson?

  Cain falla. Los sacrificios de Abel se cumplen con

• 27:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  aceptación y admiración por la comunidad y por Dios. Abel es popular con sus compatriotas, es atractivo para las mujeres, y Dios mismo se ríe de los sacrificios de Abel porque son de la calidad más alta. Cain juega un juego de engaño

• 27:52Jordan B. Peterson?

  que es perezoso y arrogante. Perezoso porque no ofrece lo mejor que tiene, engañoso porque cree que en su fracaso de ofrecer lo mejor que tiene puede engañarse a sí mismo, a sus compañeros, la comunidad tal y como es, y a Dios. Y así Cain es el espíritu de arrogancia que presume que Dios mismo estará satisfecho con lo que tú ofrezcas que no es lo mejor. Y eso es una estúpida y presumptuosa...

• 28:35Jordan B. Peterson?

  Pre-supposition. Foolish, because anyone with eyes open knows that life is so difficult and so challenging that the probability that you will get away with anything other than your absolute best is zero.

• 28:57Jordan B. Peterson?

  Presumptuous, because Cain believes that his own soul, his fellow man, and God are so foolish that they'll be fooled into accepting his false offering as if it's valid. And so Cain places himself higher in the heavenly hierarchy in terms of authority than God himself. And that's an unwise move. What's the consequence? Well, what's the consequence in your own life of your failure to offer what's best?

• 29:41Jordan B. Peterson?

  Failure. The failure that makes your countenance fall. That's what happens to Cain. His countenance falls. Why? He's unhappy, bitter, miserable, resentful, and angry. Why? Because his second-rate sacrifices aren't accepted. Why else? Because he's forced to live with Abel, who's doing his best and upon whom the sun constantly shines.

• 30:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  Cain, whose countenance falls, becomes bitter and resentful and determines that he's in a position to call God to judgment. That's what we do when we observe our failures and make the presumption that there's something wrong with the cosmic order, such that we're failing, rather than presuming if what we're offering is not being accepted, that that's a consequence of our own inadequacy. And so Cain has a chat with God and makes his displeasure known.

• 31:08Jordan B. Peterson?

  "How is it," he says to God, "that you've created a world so corrupt that everything my brother Abel does turns to gold and everything I do fails?" And God says, "If you did well, would you not be accepted?" And that's the fundamental question of conscience. If you are not allowed back into the paradijal garden, perhaps you're carrying something with you that doesn't deserve admission.

• 31:54Jordan B. Peterson?

  The alternative to conceptualizing your miserable failure as a consequence of your own inadequacy in sacrifice is the presumption that there's something wrong, not only with the cosmic order, but with the nature of the spirit that established that order. There is no difference between resentment in relationship to God and Luciferian usurpation. They are the same thing. And God tells Cain two things. Number one, if you did well, you would be accepted. And second, don't be thinking that your resentment

• 32:39Jordan B. Peterson?

  and bitterness and misery is a consequence of your failure. Modern materialist, left-wing, social theorists assume that bitter criminality is a consequence of poverty, for example. But most people who are poor aren't criminal. So the causal relationship between low socioeconomic status or even failure and outright bitter, resentful criminality is not deterministic. And that's what God tells Cain.

• 33:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  He says, "Your countenance has fallen and you believe that your angry, painful bitterness is a consequence of your failure and you believe that that failure is a reflection of the inadequacy of creation itself. But in truth, this is what you've done. The spirit of sin itself crouched at your door and in your bitterness and resentment and failure to take responsibility, you invited it in to have its way with you.

• 34:06Jordan B. Peterson?

  If you make a mistake, you could admit to the error, which is to confess. You could reconstitute your aim and you could atone. Or you could observe the bitter consequences of your failure, double down like the pharaonic tyrant, accuse God, and stay miserable." That's what Cain chooses to do. God says to him, "Sin crouched at your door like a sexually aroused predatory animal and you invited it in to have its way with you."

• 34:52Jordan B. Peterson?

  What does that mean? It doesn't merely mean that the spirit of sin tempted and possessed Cain. It means that the spirit of sin could not have possessed or tempted Cain had he not voluntarily invited it in and entered into a creative relationship with it,

• 35:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  brooding upon

• 35:28Jordan B. Peterson?

  his failure and the pain that has been generated in consequence, imagining how the world would be if only he had the success and the control that he wants, dreaming of the revenge that he could take on those that opposed him, imagining what it would be like if Abel failed despite his appropriate sacrifices and Cain prevailed, luxuriating in his fantasies of revenge. You ask yourself, perhaps, how the people who commit the cruelest and vilest of acts

• 36:13Jordan B. Peterson?

  can come to that end? And the answer is a thousand hours of bitter fantasizing, a thousand hours of creative consort with the spirit of darkness itself, which they invited in to

• 36:34Jordan B. Peterson?

  have its way with them as a means of obtaining revenge against themselves for their failure, society for rejecting them, and God for having the temerity to create the world in the first place. And so that's what God tells Cain. And he is seriously unhappy with that response, as we all are, when we...

• 37:12Jordan B. Peterson?

  Diskutamos a nossa situação com a nossa consciência e nos informam consequentemente que os fracassos que nos deixaram tristes e ressentidos são propriedades de nos colocar nos nossos pés. E assim, Cain perde a discussão com Deus

• 37:35Jordan B. Peterson?

  e sua continente cai mais longe. Ele é mais enoioso, ele é mais triste, ele é mais triste, ele é mais ressentido, ele é ativamente vingativo, ele está reclamando. Ele vai para Abel, que admiram e querem ser, e diz: "Talvez pudéssemos trabalhar juntos no campo", uma convidação para jogar. E Abel, que sempre esperava a reclamação de seu irmão distante, concorda. E Cain o leva ao campo e o bate a morte com uma pedra.

• 38:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  E Deus aparece novamente na forma da consciência de Cain. E Cain diz: "Sou eu o guarda-roupa de meu irmão?" E a resposta a isso é: "Sim". E Deus diz: "A terra mesma me grita consequentemente do sangue que foi espilhado". E Cain diz: "Meu punho é maior do que eu posso suportar". E o que isso significa? Não há ninguém tão doado como a pessoa que destruiu seu ideal. E é isso que Cain faz. Não há ideal, não há meta. Não há ideal, não há progresso avançado.

• 39:04Jordan B. Peterson?

  Não há meta e progresso avançado, não há esperança. E assim, agora Cain é destinado a viajar para sempre no land de "não esperança", sozinho. E é o land de Nod. O land de Nod é o lugar que os filhos vão quando dormem. É o land de inconsciência e alienação do self, homem e Deus. É o inevitable lugar de viajar do indivíduo que faz sacrifícios pobres,

• 39:48Jordan B. Peterson?

  recheia a vingança em seus colegas, toca a mão em Deus e viola o contrato social e divino. E é o destino de Cain.

• 40:06Jordan B. Peterson?

  Mas isso não é tudo.

• 40:11Jordan B. Peterson?

  Os descendentes de Cain são os engenheiros que construíram cidades e criaram ferramentas e adoraram tecnologia como alternativa para alinhar seus espíritos propriamente com Deus. Os descendentes de Cain são os canônites, que são, desde então, o inimigo do povo escolhido de Deus e os inimigos do estado tyrânico e hedonístico. E isso não é tudo. Os descendentes de Cain são os primeiros fabricantes de armas de guerra, que é Tubal Cain, e os primeiros

• 40:54Jordan B. Peterson?

  praticantes da vingança de titos que espiraliza-se em assassinato genocidal. Lamek, que são descendentes de Cain, mata sete de vocês se vocês o ofendem e seus filhos matam setenta de vocês. E o mensaje dessa história é que o fracasso de Cain em fazer os sacrifícios corretos, seu desenvolvimento de raiva e infelicidade e tristeza e desejo pela vingança

• 41:39Jordan B. Peterson?

  é um espírito que pode se espalhar por toda a comunidade e que resulta na catástrofe do impulso genocidal. E assim, se você está perguntando o que aconteceu na Alemanha Nazi ou se você está perguntando o que aconteceu na União Soviética Stalinista ou na China de Mao, todos esses lugares que eram indistinguidos do inferno, o elemento fundamental causal foi o fracasso do indivíduo inimigo desses estados em fazer os sacrifícios corretos que os colocariam em harmonia com o ordem eterno e cosmico.

• 42:22Jordan B. Peterson?

  A consequente tristeza que emergiu, a vingança que esse fracasso

• 42:32Jordan B. Peterson?

  tentou os levar à rebelião contra Deus, a emergência do espírito assassino e a descentsa dessa em uma catástrofe genocidal. E assim, é isso que você está envolvido, quer você sabe ou não, quando você fracassa em trazer o melhor para o tableiro. E isso é verdade para absolutamente tudo o que você faz, não importa o quanto seja pequeno. Você é feito na imagem de Deus, ou assim a história vai. Assim, nada que você faça é pequeno.

• 43:17Jordan B. Peterson?

  Quando Adam e Eva

• 43:20Jordan B. Peterson?

  caem alegre pelo pecado da orgulho e a história começa no seu estado de queda, Deus paga a estrada de volta ao gado de Eden com cherubs monstruosos terrifyinges em seu aspecto e uma espada que está em fogo, que gira em todas as direções. O que são os cherubs monstruosos? Tudo o que o seu pecado orgulhoso te faz terrificar. O que é a espada que briga e gira em todas as direções?

• 44:04Jordan B. Peterson?

  Que protege o caminho para o paraíso?

• 44:09Jordan B. Peterson?

  O julgamento divino que

• 44:13Jordan B. Peterson?

  recusa permitir qualquer coisa que não seja perfeita para o céu. Por que isso se manifesta como uma espada que gira em todas as direções, que briga? Uma espada que se divide, uma espada que gira em todas as direções não pode escapar. Uma espada que gira em todas as direções, que briga, para se mover para o estado do paraíso, você tem que permitir tudo o que não é perfeito sobre você ser cortado e brido. Isso é um sacrifício. Esse é o sacrifício

• 44:57Jordan B. Peterson?

  que é agradável a Deus.

• 45:01Jordan B. Peterson?

  Esse fato sozinho é parte da razão de que a empresa religiosa não é algum serviço-servidor, santimonioso, defesa imaturo contra o terror da morte ou alguma criação hipotética do pai do céu atrás de que as cãias escondem. Não há mais nada terrível a contemplar do que a necessidade de ter tudo o que não é aceitável sobre você julgado e destruído.

• 45:38Jordan B. Peterson?

  particularmente se há muito sobre você que não é aceitável.

• 54:35Jordan B. Peterson?

  La persona que amas ahora y la persona que adorarías como adulto. Y eso es lo que Dios ofrece a Abraham. Y establece una identidad, y la identidad es la equivalencia del llamado del espíritu de aventura con el camino de desarrollo que hace al sojoneraventurero una bendición para sí mismo. Pero esa no es la única oferta.

• 55:02Jordan B. Peterson?

  Dios dice a Abraham que si tiene la aventura de su vida en lugar de caer a la tentación infantil de la saturación y la riqueza, que su nombre se convertirá en renombre entre sus compañeros y por razones válidas. Y así no solo será una bendición para sí mismo, el patrón de su vida será tal que otras personas se dirijan a él como modelo para la emulación y como figura de genuina y válida admiración. Y así es una conjunción armoniosa

• 55:42Jordan B. Peterson?

  de lo que es mejor para el individuo y lo mejor para el mundo social. Vivir de una manera que es una bendición para ti, que es tan starkamente una bendición que otras personas la reconocen también, en la ausencia de ninguna manipulación o decepción. Y esa no es la única oferta. Dios dice a Abraham que si hace esas dos cosas,

• 56:08Jordan B. Peterson?

  establecerá algo permanente y de valor permanente. En el caso de Abraham, una dinastía que lo hace que hace a sus descendientes innumerables y que lo hace el padre de naciones. Que Abraham, si sigue el patrón de aventura sin reservas y hace los sacrificios apropiados en consecuencia, que establecerá un patrón de ser que mejor asegura que sus hijos prosperarán y que sus hijos prosperarán y que sus hijos prosperarán y multiplicarán y crecerán hasta que la gente que lucha con Dios de la manera más aventurosa hereda la tierra.

• 56:53Jordan B. Peterson?

  Y esa no es la única oferta. Dios dice a Abraham que si hace todas las tres cosas, que también vivirá su vida de una manera que es máximamente beneficiosa para todos los demás. Indicando de esta manera que el mundo es un lugar de aventura que tiene un potencial infinito. Que lo que puedas ganar por ti mismo en el curso de tu verdaderamente aventurismo y empujamiento hacia arriba podría ser creado y producido de una manera que no hace nada más que aumentar la probabilidad de que todos los demás puedan tener lo mismo. Esa es la cornucopia de la posibilidad

• 57:37Jordan B. Peterson?

  que caracteriza el potencial que Dios broda en el principio del mismo tiempo y de lo que extrae el natural y el hombre y el orden social y natural. Y esa es la posibilidad que está ante ti en cada momento como reflejo de la imagen de Dios.

• 58:02Jordan B. Peterson?

  Y es el contendido con esa posibilidad que es la batalla de los dragones que revela el tesoro oculto más valioso de la manera que es más aventurista en la búsqueda de lo más hacia arriba en el establecimiento de una relación sacrificial con lo más alto y que es la coveniente con Dios. Por definición. Esa es la historia.

• 58:40Jordan B. Peterson?

  ¿Cuál es el sacrificio que representa Cristo?

• 58:49Jordan B. Peterson?

  Hay una historia en Éxodo. Esta es una historia milagrosa. Es la conjunción de estas dos historias que es milagrosa.

• 59:00Jordan B. Peterson?

  Los israelitas están en el desierto. Han sojournado durante décadas. Están cansados y exhaustos, están buscando la tiranía. Todavía son esclavos miserables. Se quejaron y se quejaron dolorosamente sobre su destino. Están perdidos.

• 59:20Jordan B. Peterson?

  Se detuvieron de seguir las dictadas de Moisés. Se dirijeron a la adoración de falsos ídolos.

• 59:30Jordan B. Peterson?

  Y rompen su coveniente con Dios que es descontento como consecuencia y que envía a su gente miserable y sin fe serpientes venenosas para les muerdan. ¿Por qué? Porque no importa lo mal que sean las cosas para ti, hay algo estúpido que todavía podrías hacer para hacerlo peor.

• 1:00:01Jordan B. Peterson?

  Y así podrías culpar a Dios por enviar las serpientes o podrías decir

• 1:00:07Jordan B. Peterson?

  si te comportas mal lo suficiente las serpientes son seguras de venir. Y eso es lo que pasa con los israelitas. Y así todos están siendo mordidos por las serpientes venenosas. Y eso los hace desesperados lo suficiente para volver a Moisés y pedirle que intervenga con Dios. Envían a un representante a Moisés y dicen sabemos que tienes una red hacia el divino. Estamos teniendo mucho problema con estas serpientes que parece que Dios ha enviado. Tal vez podrías poner una buena palabra para la gente elegida y conseguir que Dios deshaga las serpientes.

• 1:00:52Jordan B. Peterson?

  Y así Moisés, que también no está muy feliz con los israelitas, se compromete de nuevo a interceder a su favor y dice a Dios "tu gente está gritando bajo su carga de su propio pecado y el castigo que has enviado tan justamente para ellos. ¿Hay algo que se pueda hacer sobre las serpientes?" Y Dios dice "Sí". Y luego podrías pensar que la solución simple sería eliminar todas las serpientes. Pero luego podrías preguntarte si estuvieras haciendo lo mejor para tu hijo mientras estaba desarrollando, ¿te ibas a alejar de todas las serpientes

• 1:01:38Jordan B. Peterson?

  y hacerlo seguro o te ibas a enseñarlo a manejar cualquier serpiente que vino a su camino? Y así Dios dice a Moisés "hagan que los israelitas recojen su bronce y hagan de la bronce una estatua y hagan la estatua el personal de la tradición y de la autoridad y pongan un serpiente en el personal.

• 1:02:06Jordan B. Peterson?

  Y así los israelitas pueden mirar a lo que les podría venenosar y se conviertan en inmunes.

• 1:02:20Jordan B. Peterson?

  El símbolo de sanación, el personal de Asclepius es el serpiente y el personal. El farmaco es un poco del veneno que te mordió como el cura. El serpiente en el personal es

• 1:02:41Jordan B. Peterson?

  el hecho starko de que si estás dispuesto a confrontar voluntariamente lo que es más venenoso, puedes convertirte en inmune a su mordor. Eso es lo que Dios dice a los israelitas. "Mira a lo que te amenaza y te venenos a tu mayor profundidad y prevalezca".

• 1:03:09Jordan B. Peterson?

  Mil años después, Cristo dice a sus seguidores que para que el mundo sea redimido, tiene que ser levantado como el serpiente en la selva, como el serpiente en la selva en brusco. Ahora, esa es una historia muy extraña. ¿Por qué Cristo se asimilaría a sí mismo al serpiente venenoso en el desierto? ¿Por qué de hecho? Carl Jung describió la historia de la pasión como la trágica arcaíntica. ¿Qué significaba eso?

• 1:03:51Jordan B. Peterson?

  Bueno, sabes que hay una diferencia entre una historia que es comética que tiene un final feliz y una historia que es trágica.

• 1:04:00Jordan B. Peterson?

  Una historia trágica es algo terrible sucediendo a un villano. No, algo terrible que sucede a un villano, esa es una historia de justicia. Una trágica es una historia de algo terrible sucediendo a alguien inocente. Entonces, ¿cuál es la trágica más intensa posible? ¿Qué trágica presentarías si tomabas toda la trágica del mundo y la destilabas en la trágica última? La trágica última sería la peor sufrimiento posible de la persona más inocente posible.

• 1:04:46Jordan B. Peterson?

  Y esa es la historia de la pasión. ¿Cuál es el peor sufrimiento posible?

• 1:04:54Jordan B. Peterson?

  ¿La muerte?

• 1:04:58Jordan B. Peterson?

  ¿La muerte cuando eres joven?

• 1:05:01Jordan B. Peterson?

  La peor muerte mágica y dolorosa inventada por el tirano para torturarte en la submisión culminando en tu muerte con la muerte cuando eres joven frente a la madre que te ama profundamente en consecuencia del engaño de tu mejor amigo mientras estás abandonado por los discípulos que te han visto hacer cosas milagrosas mientras estás siendo seguido por la mob de tu propia gente que elige tu dolorosa muerte sobre el castigo de un criminal que ellos saben ser un criminal incluso cuando saben que eres inocente y no solo inocente, sino alguien que no hace nada más que bueno.

• 1:05:46Jordan B. Peterson?

  Bueno, esa mob es dominada por una tiranía extranjera que adora el poder.

• 1:15:57Jordan B. Peterson?

  Thank you, everyone.

• 1:16:14Jordan B. Peterson?

  Thank you.

• 1:16:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  Thank you.

• 1:16:24Jordan B. Peterson?

  Thank you for your patience and your willingness to to listen to that. I'm going to invite my wife Tammy back on the stage and we're going to answer some questions.

• 1:16:47Jordan B. Peterson?

  Thank you.

• 1:16:50Jordan B. Peterson?

  Okay.

• 1:16:53Jordan B. Peterson?

  Do you need a minute?

• 1:16:56Jordan B. Peterson?

  No, I think we can continue. All right.

• 1:17:04Jordan B. Peterson?

  Let's see.

• 1:17:13Jordan B. Peterson?

  Okay, here's one. You've expressed the importance of myths that shape our society. Would you ever consider writing fiction to contribute to our damaged cultural narrative?

• 1:17:31Jordan B. Peterson?

  I, uh, I wrote a fairy tale, um, modified version of Grimm's Brother Fairy Tale called Water of Life. I made a musical screenplay out of that and we're working at the moment on about a dozen songs that are associated with that. So that's one answer of yes to that. And you may remember that I started working on a film, on a noir detective novel at one point, too. I read it to your I read it to your family at Christmas. I didn't go over very well. Yeah, it's a little on the dark side, you might say. Um, Yeah.

• 1:18:11Jordan B. Peterson?

  I suppose if I wasn't doing this, I would

• 1:18:18Jordan B. Peterson?

  engage myself in endeavors that were more creative and artistic and

• 1:18:24Jordan B. Peterson?

  I have a facility for writing musical plays and foolish poetry for children and possibly very dark detective novels. And that would be very entertaining and maybe the time for that will come, but

• 1:18:47Jordan B. Peterson?

  who knows what the future will bring. At the moment, this seems to be.

• 1:18:54Jordan B. Peterson?

  You need the luxury to do that, you know? And to have that luxury, you have to be living in a time where

• 1:19:03Jordan B. Peterson?

  it's reasonable to isolate yourself from the broader concerns of society and devote yourself to your private concerns. And that's not the situation that we're in at the moment. So

• 1:19:19Jordan B. Peterson?

  until I'm

• 1:19:24Jordan B. Peterson?

  satisfied that

• 1:19:28Jordan B. Peterson?

  all hell is not about to break loose.

• 1:19:33Jordan B. Peterson?

  My plan and my wife's plan and my family's plan is to continue doing what we're doing and leave the more enjoyable, creative, purely creative endeavors

• 1:19:49Jordan B. Peterson?

  aside until

• 1:19:52Jordan B. Peterson?

  God willing, the time comes that that's the appropriate pursuit.

• 1:20:09Jordan B. Peterson?

  Julian just recorded a, an album. Yep. Our son Julian just recorded an album. Uh, it's, it's a little dark too, though, I'd say.

• 1:20:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  But that should come out. Well, and we, Tammy and I have, we've recorded a fair bit of music. The, the piece of music that will close this show is one of the pieces we recorded and I'm going to be working with the musician Victor Swift, who started this show on some music in the summer. And we have a bit of an opportunity now that this tour is coming to its current conclusion to play in the fictional and creative realm. And so, you know, there's, it's very fun to do that. It's extremely engaging. And we'll have some time to do it. So some time, that's good. That's a lot better than no time.

• 1:21:05Jordan B. Peterson?

  So, and we'll make hay while the sun shines and

• 1:21:10Jordan B. Peterson?

  so. Yeah, that's right.

• 1:21:13Jordan B. Peterson?

  If you were going to be a first time father, which you were, you were a first time father, uh, a right wing father, I don't know if you were a right wing father. My reputation. Yes, by reputation. How would you prepare your children to face the woke slash left wing culture?

• 1:21:37Jordan B. Peterson?

  Well, stay married to your wife. Well, that's, that's, that's the first answer, you know? Um,

• 1:21:48Jordan B. Peterson?

  a huge element of the woke culture is

• 1:21:54Jordan B. Peterson?

  the more pathological elements of the pride display. How about we put it that way? The notion that you can do whatever you want with whoever you want, whenever the hell you want, the consequences be damned. And that's an insanely immature attitude

• 1:22:18Jordan B. Peterson?

  combined with.

• 1:22:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  So it's an infantile and it's a toddler like attitude with the addition of sexual motivation. And

• 1:22:30Jordan B. Peterson?

  it's not.

• 1:22:33Jordan B. Peterson?

  There's nothing about it that works.

• 1:22:36Jordan B. Peterson?

  The people who have the most sex are married religious couples.

• 1:22:41Jordan B. Peterson?

  So you can tell your children that. Or you could act it out, you know, with some

• 1:22:51Jordan B. Peterson?

  due caution.

• 1:22:54Jordan B. Peterson?

  Stay married to your wife. See if you can figure out how to continue being in love with her. Play together. Model that for your kids. They're going to want that a lot more than whatever idiot hedonistic malevolence is

• 1:23:13Jordan B. Peterson?

  forced upon them by the dim wits of the radical left. So

• 1:23:22Jordan B. Peterson?

  example, there's nothing more important than example.

• 1:23:27Jordan B. Peterson?

  What else?

• 1:23:30Jordan B. Peterson?

  Regular meals with your kids, that's a good idea.

• 1:23:35Jordan B. Peterson?

  Read to them at bedtime so you establish that time to educate them, to attend to them, to teach them to read, to teach them to be literate.

• 1:23:48Jordan B. Peterson?

  And then keep an eye on them. Teach them to deal with serpents. Play with them. Fathers are very good at that. Fathers are the adventurous spirit of play. Wrestle with them. Toughen them up. Challenge them. Set high standards. Don't let them get away with anything, but not because you're the cruel voice of conscience, but because

• 1:24:13Jordan B. Peterson?

  look, we used to take our kids to restaurants when they were little.

• 1:24:18Jordan B. Peterson?

  And they didn't run around like mad hyenas

• 1:24:22Jordan B. Peterson?

  making fools of themselves. And the reason for that was because we didn't want people to respond to them as if they were misbehaving fools. We wanted people to be pleased with them

• 1:24:36Jordan B. Peterson?

  and to be impressed by them in the manner that God promised Abraham. He would be impressive if he conducted himself properly.

• 1:24:48Jordan B. Peterson?

  It was typical when we took our kids to restaurants that at the end of our meals, other couples, other people in the restaurant would come up and say nice things to the children. Because they sat there and acted like civilized human beings, even when they were

• 1:25:09Jordan B. Peterson?

  18 months old. You couldn't ask them to do that for two hours.

• 1:25:15Jordan B. Peterson?

  But you could ask them to do that for 45 minutes and they learned how to do that and

• 1:25:21Jordan B. Peterson?

  there was nothing in, in that, that, about that, that wasn't good. I wrote a chapter in my first book. The title was, "Do not allow your children to do anything that makes you dislike them." And that's a very straightforward rule. If your kids are acting up and you're displeased, well, maybe you're a patriarchal tyrant. So you could go ask your wife. You could say, "Dear,

• 1:25:52Jordan B. Peterson?

  that son of yours

• 1:25:55Jordan B. Peterson?

  is annoying me.

• 1:25:58Jordan B. Peterson?

  Is that because I'm a patriarchal son of a bitch or because he's a little bastard?"

• 1:26:05Jordan B. Peterson?

  And then it's up to your wife to say, "Well, you are a little cruel these days and you could shape up." Or, "That little rat is also annoying me."

• 1:26:20Jordan B. Peterson?

  In which case, you could conclude that if your child is annoying both of you, despite the fact that you hypothetically love him, he would probably be annoying other people, which isn't good for him. So that should be brought to a halt. And so then you do. You employ whatever minimal force is necessary to say no and to ensure that he doesn't make a spectacle of himself.

• 1:26:55Jordan B. Peterson?

  My son, Julian, is a very civilized person and also a very tough person, was a ornery little two-year-old. He was quite insistent that he get his way. And it took a fair bit of wrestling to help him learn to manage his will. But he did. And because of that, we could rely on his judgment from the time he was three. And that's never changed. And so and it was a pleasure to be around him. And it didn't take that much.

• 1:27:42Jordan B. Peterson?

  It wasn't that much trouble. It was nowhere near as much trouble as not doing it. We didn't say no that often.

• 1:27:51Jordan B. Peterson?

  But when we said no, what we meant was, if you continue doing that, something you do not like will happen to you with 100% probability. Right, and that's what no means. And if that's the rod of iron behind your no, then when you say no, you get listened to. And then you don't have to say it that often. And so that's what I would recommend to a new father. Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them. If you do not like your children, you will be cruel to them.

• 1:28:37Jordan B. Peterson?

  And so you regulate your child's behavior so they don't have to encounter the monstrous part of you

• 1:28:48Jordan B. Peterson?

  accidentally at the worst possible time. Right.

• 1:29:06Jordan B. Peterson?

  This is not a question. Just a big thank you for being the light in the darkness and for being the voice that my generation needs. A big hug from the benches.

• 1:29:36Jordan B. Peterson?

  You Mexicans.

• 1:29:44Jordan B. Peterson?

  Okay, question. What advice would you give to someone whose little sister is saying she's trans? What is the best way to proceed as an older sister?

• 1:30:10Jordan B. Peterson?

  Well, I think the part of what you do is, you do two things. You let her know in no uncertain terms that she is not to do anything that harms herself. That that is not acceptable. No dressing like the opposite sex. No hormones.

• 1:30:32Jordan B. Peterson?

  No puberty blockers. And no butchering surgery.

• 1:30:39Jordan B. Peterson?

  That means war. Right? No, that is not happening.

• 1:30:46Jordan B. Peterson?

  No matter what.

• 1:30:50Jordan B. Peterson?

  Any child that is poking around in that satanic realm

• 1:30:59Jordan B. Peterson?

  is testing to see if anyone cares enough to stop her.

• 1:31:06Jordan B. Peterson?

  Hey.

• 1:31:10Jordan B. Peterson?

  There's an actress in the US, Ellen Paige.

• 1:31:19Jordan B. Peterson?

  My understanding of Ellen Paige is that she was quite badly brutalized as a child actress. That is not rare. What's the consequence? She came to hate her own sexuality

• 1:31:37Jordan B. Peterson?

  and no one ever loved her enough to protect her property. That's a catastrophe. What's the consequence? She cut off her breasts.

• 1:31:52Jordan B. Peterson?

  No one loved her enough to stop that.

• 1:31:57Jordan B. Peterson?

  You have a sister. You need to let her know that

• 1:32:05Jordan B. Peterson?

  she is loved and that she is not to hurt herself because she's valuable and

• 1:32:14Jordan B. Peterson?

  that she has the trouble that young girls have and that she's to confront those and face them and accept them and welcome them in the

• 1:32:28Jordan B. Peterson?

  same courageous spirit that Mary accepted the challenge from God when she found that she was pregnant to not only reconcile herself to the fact of her femininity, but to welcome it. And to be a model as a sister for doing that. And but then again, to ally that with absolute 100% unshakable resolve to burn everything to the ground, to stop the butchery. Right?

• 1:33:10Jordan B. Peterson?

  What's your advice for Mexicans that want to be and do good in a country where murder, violence, and corruption is the norm?

• 1:33:22Jordan B. Peterson?

  Well, you know, I talked about that tonight. I mean,

• 1:33:28Jordan B. Peterson?

  when Jacob, Jacob becomes Israel, right? As his

• 1:33:35Jordan B. Peterson?

  character transforms. He transforms so completely that he becomes a new person and he becomes the progenitor of those who wrestle with God. That's Jacob. Jacob is not a good guy when he starts out. He is a lying, manipulative,

• 1:33:56Jordan B. Peterson?

  self-satisfied, intellectual, tent-dwelling mama's boy.

• 1:34:04Jordan B. Peterson?

  That's what he is.

• 1:34:07Jordan B. Peterson?

  He deceives his father

• 1:34:12Jordan B. Peterson?

  and

• 1:34:14Jordan B. Peterson?

  manipulates his brother out of his rightful inheritance. And because of that, he has to run from his home.

• 1:34:25Jordan B. Peterson?

  Although you could imagine that that's a relief for Jacob because he gets away from his mother. And on the way to his uncle, he has a dream. And the dream is of Jacob's ladder, this spiral upward that has God at its pinnacle with the angels from God moving up and down on the pathway to heaven.

• 1:34:55Jordan B. Peterson?

  Then he wakes up and he builds an altar and he

• 1:34:59Jordan B. Peterson?

  makes a vow to God to journey up the ladder to heaven. What does that mean? It means that

• 1:35:12Jordan B. Peterson?

  he decides to turn away from his iniquity and to become good. What does that mean for you?

• 1:35:22Jordan B. Peterson?

  It means that you could decide to do that. You could decide to

• 1:35:28Jordan B. Peterson?

  do good. How? Well,

• 1:35:33Jordan B. Peterson?

  in the biblical stories, the way you become good, you could say, is the Old Testament way and then the New Testament way. The Old Testament way is "Thou shalt not", the commandments. Stop doing the things you know are stupid.

• 1:35:48Jordan B. Peterson?

  And it's a game in a way you can play with yourself. It's like you can look at your life, you can talk to your conscience, you can decide what you're doing that's counterproductive and wrong by your own standards of evaluation. And then you can see which of those things you would be able to change, maybe, and then you can change them. And then every time you make that sacrifice and you shed a little bit of dead wood or you allow it to be burned off, then you're a little wiser and you can see a little more clearly and you can see what else might have to go. You can see that if your eye offends you, that it should be plucked out.

• 1:36:31Jordan B. Peterson?

  And then maybe you can get to the point where you can not only stop doing what's bad, but you could start doing what's good, which is really what Christ calls upon people to do.

• 1:36:44Jordan B. Peterson?

  He talks to the rich young man who says to him, "Lord, I have been a devout follower of the commandments. I honor my parents, I keep the commandments, but my life is still insufficient." And Christ says to him,

• 1:37:06Jordan B. Peterson?

  "You must sell everything you have and follow me." And Christ's disciples say, "If that's the price of salvation, then no one is willing to pay it." And people read that as if it's an anti-capitalist screed. That's the liberation theology take, let's say. And that isn't what it means at all. It means that...

• 1:37:31Jordan B. Peterson?

  If you've stopped doing what's wrong and

• 1:37:35Jordan B. Peterson?

  you're not doing enough of what's right

• 1:37:39Jordan B. Peterson?

  to be engaged in your life, then you have to radically change

• 1:37:46Jordan B. Peterson?

  what you're doing and you have to give up everything that's an impediment to your progress forward. And for the rich young man, Christ's diagnosis was that his wealth was bringing him misery and not

• 1:38:03Jordan B. Peterson?

  buying for him entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven. So does that mean practically? You want to fight the tyrant? Like Moses? You want to stand up for the slave like Moses?

• 1:38:18Jordan B. Peterson?

  Get your house in order. How do you do that? Start with yourself.

• 1:38:24Jordan B. Peterson?

  Stop doing the stupid things that you're doing that you know are stupid. Start doing the things that you know are good. Pursue that religiously. And then you'll learn how to set things in order. Beyond the confines of your own soul, beyond the dynamics of your relationship with your wife, beyond the stabilization of your own family, maybe you'll become enough of a person so that having put what's right in front of you in order, you have something more to offer to everyone else.

• 1:39:04Jordan B. Peterson?

  So, one step at a time. You want to turn yourself into the person whose words ring true. And those are the people that no tyrant can stand against. That's the man who goes to the court of the Pharaoh and says, "God commanded me to say to you, 'Let my people go so they may worship me in the desert.'" What does that mean? It doesn't mean, "Let my people go so they can have a naked orgy while worshiping the golden calf." It means, "Let my people go so they can

• 1:39:47Jordan B. Peterson?

  adopt the mature sacrificial attitude that establishes the state that does not require a king or a slave." How do you participate in that? By standing up against your own tyranny, by standing up against the tyranny in your marriage and in your family, in your community, in the state, by

• 1:40:11Jordan B. Peterson?

  sacrificing your slavish habits, by attending to what calls to you, by establishing a relationship with your conscience, and by becoming a leader.

• 1:40:24Jordan B. Peterson?

  And if enough people do that,

• 1:40:28Jordan B. Peterson?

  the tyrants will vanish and the slaves will be free. So, you all know that, I think, at some level, or you wouldn't be here tonight. Listening to this. You're here because something is calling to you. And so, I would say,

• 1:40:51Jordan B. Peterson?

  get at it.

• 1:40:53Jordan B. Peterson?

  There's tyrants that need to be confronted and slaves that need to be freed. And you might be one of the tyrants and one of the slaves. So you could start with yourself.

• 1:41:13Jordan B. Peterson?

  All right, everybody.

• 1:41:18Jordan B. Peterson?

  Thank you very much. It was very nice to be here.

• 1:41:22Speaker 03

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• 1:41:23Jordan B. Peterson?

  Pleasure to see you all. Thank you, Tam.

• 1:41:25Speaker 03

  My pleasure.

• 1:41:35Speaker 03

  Thanks for coming.

• 1:41:36Jordan B. Peterson?

  Thank you very much for coming tonight. Thank you, my dear.

• 1:41:42Jordan B. Peterson?

  Thank you for the poster.

• 1:41:45Jordan B. Peterson?

  Good to see you all.

• 1:41:50Jordan B. Peterson?

  Thank you, thank you. Good night, everybody.

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