Armchair Anonymous: Extreme Weather

Dax and Monica talk to Armcherries! In today's episode, Armcherries tell us a crazy extreme weather story. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Dax Shepard?

  Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Anonymous. I'm Dax Shepard. I'm joined by Monica Padman.

• 0:05Speaker 01

  Hello.

• 0:05Dax Shepard?

  Today we have extreme weather.

• 0:08Speaker 01

  It is extreme.

• 0:09Dax Shepard?

  The weather is extreme. You're gonna hear about some extreme weather.

• 0:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I feel bad because when we first started, it was gloomy here in Los Angeles and I did call it extreme.

• 0:18Dax Shepard?

  You thought that was, yeah, for the sun to not be out.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  A little insensitive now after hearing all those stories.

• 0:24Dax Shepard?

  But I get this one's pretty safe to listen to, or it's a rare one.

• 0:28Speaker 01

  And it's cautionary tale.

• 0:29Dax Shepard?

  Cautionary tale and it's rat, oh rats, rats, sorry giveaway. There's also rats. Please enjoy extreme weather. We get support from Quince.

• 0:38Speaker 01

  I have to say, I am so ready for fall. I want sweaters. I've been craving a true crisp morning where I actually need a jacket. I can't wait.

• 0:47Dax Shepard?

  I'm fully there. The second it dips below seventy, I'm like, this is my season. Give me the layers, give me the boots, give me a reason to wear something other than a t-shirt. And honestly, that's why I love Quince because fall is when your wardrobe actually has to show up and everything at Quince is fifty to eighty percent less than similar brands. We're talking a hundred percent Mongolian cashmere sweaters, starting at sixty dollars.

• 1:10Speaker 01

  Sixty dollars, sixty dollars for cashmere that you'd expect from a luxury brand without the luxury price tag. It's amazing. Gets me every time. It really shouldn't be real, but it is because they go straight to the factories, they skip the middlemen and they just hand you the savings. The stuff isn't trendy. It's the kind of pieces you grab over and over because they work every time.

• 1:28Dax Shepard?

  The hundred percent Mongolian cashmere sweaters for me are it. When I look at Steve McQueen, this man owned a couple of sweaters he wore all the time and he looks iconic.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  It's a uniform.

• 1:38Dax Shepard?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:39Speaker 01

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• 1:56Dax Shepard?

  Find your next fall favorites at Quince. Download the Quince app for app exclusive offers or go to quince.com. Get free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK too. And when Quince asks where you heard about them, let them know it was Armchair Expert. It's the best way to support the show. This episode is presented by YouTube Premium. YouTube was already great, but Premium supercharges it. If you like YouTube, you'll love Premium. Try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com/premium. Trial eligibility varies. Terms apply. Cancel anytime. Now let's get into today's episode.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  Oh, extreme weather.

• 2:57Dax Shepard?

  Oh.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  That is on brand. Ding ding ding. Cause it's gloomy out.

• 3:02Dax Shepard?

  Cause it's so extreme out right now. The sun's not shining, which is extreme.

• 3:07Speaker 01

  It's giving me sad. Hello.

• 3:10Dax Shepard?

  Ella?

• 3:11Speaker 02

  Hi. Sorry. It's so dark in here.

• 3:13Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, can we get a little light in there?

• 3:16Speaker 02

  It was light when I could just see myself.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  Oh, is it cause it's gloomy? Oh. Better, better.

• 3:25Dax Shepard?

  Do you wanna crack your door to the closet maybe?

• 3:28Speaker 01

  We can see her a little better now. Better?

• 3:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:31Dax Shepard?

  Better, better.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  I swear it was working. It looked perfect.

• 3:36Dax Shepard?

  I would not think you were a liar, Ella. No way.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 3:41Dax Shepard?

  And where are you? Other than a closet?

• 3:43Speaker 02

  Yes, I'm in a closet in New Jersey.

• 3:45Dax Shepard?

  You get what in New Jersey? You get tornadoes? You get some hurricanes?

• 3:49Speaker 02

  No, that's the crazy thing. It's like, we don't really get that much crazy weather, but I did get some crazy weather one night.

• 3:57Dax Shepard?

  Okay, and you appear to be very young to me. Can I try to guess your age?

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Oh, please.

• 4:03Dax Shepard?

  Okay, I'm going with twenty-three years old.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  Oh, twenty-six.

• 4:06Dax Shepard?

  Oh.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Nice, you were close.

• 4:08Dax Shepard?

  Monty, what would you have said?

• 4:09Speaker 01

  Um, I'm really bad at that game. Yeah, probably like mid to late forties.

• 4:16Speaker 02

  Getting there.

• 4:18Dax Shepard?

  Okay, so you're in New Jersey and were you born and raised there?

• 4:21Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 4:21Dax Shepard?

  How far from the city?

• 4:22Speaker 02

  Right now I am living directly across from New York City. So like on the water, Hudson River, New York City is right there.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 4:29Dax Shepard?

  You have the best view of New York?

• 4:30Speaker 02

  Yes, love to look at it, hate to be there.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 4:33Dax Shepard?

  Interesting. Remember when we had?

• 4:35Speaker 01

  Jack Antonoff.

• 4:36Dax Shepard?

  And he sent a lot of people there like, fuck that place.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 4:39Dax Shepard?

  All right, so walk us through your extreme weather.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  Yes, can I say something really quickly?

• 4:43Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, you can say ninety things really quickly.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  I started listening about two years ago and about a year in, I realized I had no idea what you guys actually looked like. And I made a promise to myself that I would never look until I made it on the podcast one day. This is my first time.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  Wait, but you didn't know what Dax looked like?

• 5:00Speaker 02

  So I'm really bad with names, celebrities, and I'm not a movie, TV person.

• 5:04Dax Shepard?

  She's also twenty-six, right? And the last time I was on a TV show was six years ago. She was twenty.

• 5:10Speaker 01

  Well, twenty's old enough to watch TV.

• 5:12Dax Shepard?

  To watch TV. Were you allowed to watch TV when you were twenty?

• 5:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was. Chose not to, but yeah.

• 5:18Dax Shepard?

  I believe it. I think most twenty-six year olds have no clue who I am.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  This is so fun. What did you think we looked like? Be honest.

• 5:25Speaker 02

  You guys have dropped a lot of clues over my time listening, so I was able to put together like a pretty good picture, but now seeing you guys, I can't remember how I pictured you now.

• 5:35Dax Shepard?

  Well, also, would you agree, we're pretty derogatory about our own looks. So I guess you could also expect to see like a hunchback and a fucking troll.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  That is what she's saying.

• 5:46Dax Shepard?

  Well, she's like, oh, God's even worse than you guys were saying.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  I hope it's not the opposite.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  You guys are more beautiful than I ever could have imagined.

• 5:53Dax Shepard?

  Oh, we're right back at you.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. All right, let's hear extreme weather.

• 5:57Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, let's talk about weather.

• 5:58Speaker 02

  Okay, so just a really quick preface to my story is my parents have been divorced since I was very young and my mom, she got an apartment very close to my dad's house, about like a mile down the street, and she eventually bought a house less than a mile away. So very fortunate, me and my sister are growing up. My parents are very close in proximity and they had like a really good relationship.

• 6:20Dax Shepard?

  Oh, isn't that great?

• 6:21Speaker 02

  So all around very close. So now my story takes place, it was June twenty twenty-four, so not that long ago.

• 6:27Dax Shepard?

  Around the time you started listening to us.

• 6:28Speaker 02

  Actually, pretty much, yes, which is crazy to think about. So I had graduated college at the time. I was working full time and I was living full time with my dad, hanging out with my mom, going over for dinners when I could. And my mom invited me and my sister over to watch the Subway series, so the Mets Yankees baseball game. It was between a Tuesday night and a Wednesday night. They were playing both nights and we opted to go over and watch on a Tuesday night. We invited our boyfriends. All of us are really big baseball fans. So like, half of us are Mets fans, half are Yankees, Phillies fan in there. So we had dinner, probably played some sort of card game and then we all, six of us, got onto my mom's couch and we huddled up and we watched the baseball game.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  I don't really remember much of the night. It was very uneventful, fun night, Mets won. That's my team. Doesn't happen often these days, so good to look back at. And then the next day, I'm working from home at my dad's house where I live and I'm getting these weather alerts on my phone, non-stop. And I remember, cause anything would trigger me when I was working at my last job, like the smallest things would kind of set me off. And my phone just kept alerting me like, severe weather warning, severe winds. We're in New Jersey. How crazy could these winds really be?

• 7:40Dax Shepard?

  Thirty miles an hour? Like, what's the peak?

• 7:42Speaker 02

  Actually, I don't think I even checked what the speed said. I was just like, who really cares? No rain, nothing, just strong winds. And I was like, okay, just getting really annoyed. And I decide after work, I'm gonna run to the store, grab a bottle of wine, watch the second game with my dad at his house. So after work, it was about like seven or eight PM, probably when I got off work, I run out to grab the wine and I notice as I'm driving, it's getting really windy. Scary, like you can feel it in the car. I'm about to blow away in the parking lot, but I still managed to get the wine and get home. And I'm telling my dad, like, this is crazy. And not that long after that, I get a call from my stepdad and he tells me very calmly, hey, so a tree fell on our house. We need you to come and grab the dogs. Me and your mom are gonna go to the hospital.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 8:27Dax Shepard?

  Oh boy, oh boy.

• 8:29Speaker 02

  He was so calm that, I'm so calm, I'm like, no problem. I like packed an overnight bag. I thought I was having a sleepover. I don't know what was going through my head. I was like, sure. Packed my laptop, my phone charger, the bottle of wine's coming with me.

• 8:41Dax Shepard?

  And Ella, is this, the game hasn't started yet or you're mid-game when this phone call comes in?

• 8:45Speaker 02

  I haven't even turned it on yet. So I get in my car and I'm still there within ten minutes, cause again, they're literally right down the street from each other. And I go to turn on Turner Street, cannot get on the street. Cop cars, ambulance, everything's blocked off. So I park a little bit down the street and I start running towards the house at this point and a cop tries to stop me and is like, you cannot go in there. And I'm like, this is my mom's house. And she's like, great, you're here for the dogs? And I'm like, sure, whatever, just let me through, please. So she tells me I can't go through the front door, which you can't see. You're looking at the house and it looks like a bush ate the house. It just looks like a giant bush.

• 9:20Dax Shepard?

  Oh, do you immediately, when he said a tree fell down, did you know what tree? Was there a huge tree in the yard? Were you like, oh, I bet it's that?

• 9:28Speaker 02

  I wasn't even thinking about that, but like, looking back on it, yes.

• 9:30Dax Shepard?

  Like, yeah, just, I need my wine. I need my overnight bag.

• 9:34Speaker 02

  I was like, so no sleepover. So they let me go into the back of the house. There's like a back door. The dogs are in there and they're not barking, which is so weird for them and they just look absolutely traumatized. It's pitch black in there and it's like really dusty and weirdly quiet. So I'm just strapping them up, putting their harnesses on, collars, leashes, getting them ready. And my stepdad comes into the back room and he kind of fills me in on like a tree came through the house, which I understood by that point. There's a massive tree eating our house and that my mom was in the ambulance that just left. He's gonna go to the hospital and he'll call me when he gets there. And he's still so calm. So I'm calm.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  I get the dogs back to my dad's house. We have to throw his cats outside. They don't get along. My dad's not thrilled about having his ex-wife's dog there. I'm on the phone with my stepdad, on and off, all night. He's giving me more bits and pieces, like her head was bleeding. She got hit by the tree that came through the house.

• 10:32Dax Shepard?

  Oh, fuck.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  But he's like, stay where you are. I'll keep filling you in. So hours pass by at this point and before I know it, he's calling me, probably four hours from when this all happened, saying they're releasing her. We're gonna go sleep at my sister's house. And I asked to talk to her. I was like, I'd like to speak to my mother. So he puts her on the phone and she's very emotional, but she sounds completely fine. I'm like, I would love if you guys came to my dad's house and slept here for the night. So I could see you and know what's going on. I'd feel better knowing you're here with me. So they agree. She convinces my stepdad, we're gonna go sleep at my ex-husband's house. I clear out my bedroom. We had no guest rooms. So they take my full-size bed with their two dogs and I sleep on the couch for the night. The next day, I'm waking up on my dad's couch, which I never, ever slept on.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  I always slept on my bed. So I was already unfamiliar, like where am I? And all I see is my mom sitting at my dad's kitchen table, bandage wrapped around her head. My stepdad's sitting to her left and on my right is my dad, shirtless, pantless in his boxers. Absolutely like disheveled, probably came down to grab a glass of water, not knowing. His ex-wife and her husband.

• 11:38Dax Shepard?

  Oh, he didn't even, he wasn't told. Okay, he wasn't.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  I forgot to fill everyone in on like, there was a lot going on. So he was completely unaware that they were gonna be there, but he's serving them coffee. And we go back to see the house the next day and everyone's kind of filling us in on what happened. So my mom's side of the story is she heard a very loud, like cracking sound and immediately ducked over and shielded like her and the dog. And she doesn't really remember much other than that.

• 12:04Dax Shepard?

  She was on the couch of her living room or something?

• 12:07Speaker 02

  She was on the living room couch where we were all sitting the night before.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  And my stepdad was in a back room and all he heard was like a really loud crash. Very scary. He didn't really know what was going on. There were no lights. All of a sudden, loud noise and he ran into the living room where she was sitting. And it was just the ceiling of the second floor was caving in on like a 45-degree angle. There were like floorboards everywhere, furniture knocked around. There's a huge tree literally slicing the house almost in half. So he had to like pull her out of like rubble is pretty much what it looked like at that point. Her head was just profusely bleeding and he had to like pull her out. He pulled her to the back where there wasn't a second floor because he was really scared. The whole house was just gonna come down on top of them.

• 12:57Speaker 02

  He was wrapping her head in towels and she just kept bleeding through them.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  Until the EMTs got there, they couldn't get into the house with the stretcher. So what they did is they did that thing at weddings where like you put someone on a chair and you kind of like lift them up.

• 13:13Dax Shepard?

  Oh, sure. Like at a Jewish wedding.

• 13:15Speaker 02

  Yes. So that's how they got her out of the house. And at that time, she was conscious, but she was completely unresponsive, like not responding to anything anyone was saying. And the cop that was there at the time, like he radioed in something along the lines of like, we have a fatality or like, she's not gonna make it.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 13:31Speaker 02

  And my mom came to, I guess, in that moment and was like, just tell the girls that I love them. Get the dogs. They get her into the ambulance finally. They get the bleeding to stop eventually. They're taking her to the hospital that has a trauma center. We love New Jersey, great hospitals, New Jersey, New York City.

• 13:47Dax Shepard?

  If you gotta get hit by a tree, that's where you wanna be.

• 13:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, somewhere with the trauma center.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  We have some good ones here.

• 13:52Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 13:52Speaker 02

  In the ambulance, they get the bleeding to stop finally and they clean her up. And they realize her head's not split open. It's not gashed open. She has like some stuff coming out of it. There's clearly a gash in her head, but it's not nearly as bad as what they were expecting. They thought she was a goner until they realized like all she needed was some staples in her head. They cleaned her up. She had a concussion, obviously, but that was really it. And so we're very lucky and grateful that was it. But what beat up my mom the most was that if we had chosen to do the baseball game the night after, we would have all been on that couch. And if you see the photos, there's a photo of all of us sitting on the couch. And then the next photo is what that same couch looked like the next night.

• 14:36Dax Shepard?

  Okay, so now I'm flipping over the photographs. Heavens to Betsy's. It's a tall, skinny tree. Okay, so here's the family on the couch.

• 14:46Speaker 01

  Cut through the whole house. Wow.

• 14:48Dax Shepard?

  Here's everyone on the couch, the healthy night, night before. Oh my gosh.

• 14:55Speaker 02

  It's just like rubble. You can't even tell what's going on in the photo of the night after.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  Oh my God. Yeah, I don't even know how to hold it.

• 15:01Dax Shepard?

  What was the outcome of the house? Did it have to get torn down? Was it repairable? What happened?

• 15:06Speaker 02

  So the roof was completely unsalvageable and the whole house had to pretty much be redone. It took like 14 months.

• 15:14Dax Shepard?

  In LA, it would've taken four years.

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Oh my God, scary.

• 15:17Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, wow.

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. It was really strong winds. The same night in New Jersey, another tree fell and someone else got struck and passed away. My mom's feelings of just guilt and just being so grateful.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  That is horrible. Wow. Strong winds. You can't take that lightly.

• 15:35Dax Shepard?

  Who won the Subway Series?

• 15:36Speaker 02

  Oh, the Mets won.

• 15:39Speaker 02

  They won both games, actually. So I think she mentioned that too.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  Wanted?

• 15:43Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  Oh, good.

• 15:44Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, so a push.

• 15:47Dax Shepard?

  Sounds like a push.

• 15:49Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 15:49Dax Shepard?

  Well, Ella, wow, that's wild. Ella, we're so delighted to have you as a listener. I particularly like that you have no clue what we look like.

• 15:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's so fun.

• 15:57Dax Shepard?

  That's really fun.

• 15:58Speaker 02

  I know, I'm just staring at you guys.

• 15:59Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, take it in.

• 16:01Speaker 02

  Now I can follow you guys on all the socials.

• 16:02Dax Shepard?

  Oh, wow, you're waiting.

• 16:04Speaker 01

  One follow.

• 16:05Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 16:05Dax Shepard?

  This is kind of my technique to Bill Murray, right? Where I don't wanna meet him unless he talks to me, like I've been around him, but I won't talk to him.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:12Dax Shepard?

  And those plans don't work, but in this case it worked.

• 16:15Speaker 01

  I know, I'm shocked. It never got leaked, but this is great because now you can watch us on YouTube.

• 16:21Dax Shepard?

  You can do a lot of things.

• 16:22Speaker 01

  You can do, the world is opened up for you.

• 16:24Dax Shepard?

  Couple million posts to go through.

• 16:26Speaker 02

  I was just waiting.

• 16:28Dax Shepard?

  Well, it was lovely meeting you, Ella.

• 16:29Speaker 02

  Yes, you too. Could I just give a few really quick shout outs?

• 16:33Dax Shepard?

  Yes.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  Okay, first to my mother, obviously, who I love dearly. And now she has to start listening to you guys because I've been begging her. And you just interviewed Brandy Carlisle, who's like her favorite person on earth.

• 16:46Speaker 01

  Oh, a great interview.

• 16:48Dax Shepard?

  Perfect gateway for her.

• 16:49Speaker 02

  And then secondly, my boyfriend said he'd be really upset if I didn't give him a shout out. And he started listening to you guys on his own, apart from me, pretty recently.

• 16:58Dax Shepard?

  What a genius.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  We like that.

• 17:00Dax Shepard?

  He's a special boy.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  Very proud of him. Lastly, I just wanna give a shout out to the person who showed me you guys, my friend Gia, who I haven't seen in a little over a year now and I love dearly. And she is now pregnant with her first child.

• 17:13Dax Shepard?

  Oh, congratulations, Gia.

• 17:15Speaker 02

  Her own little armcherry.

• 17:17Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, keep proliferating. Procreate. Make more listeners. All right. Well, we send our love to all those folks and lovely meeting you.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  Lovely meeting you guys. Thank you so much.

• 17:28Dax Shepard?

  Okay, take care.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  Bye.

• 17:31Speaker 01

  Okay, I just thought of something.

• 17:32Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  If you're born in the year 2000, you're so lucky.

• 17:38Dax Shepard?

  For math?

• 17:38Speaker 01

  Yes, because she's 26. So she was born in 2000. And two years ago was 2024 and she was 2020.

• 17:47Dax Shepard?

  It's so easy.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  If she was 24.

• 17:49Dax Shepard?

  She just has to remember the name or the, rather, the.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  She has to remember her name.

• 17:53Dax Shepard?

  Her name and the year it was. And she'll know exactly how old she is.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  So cool.

• 17:58Dax Shepard?

  That's so cool.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  I do think that's really cool.

• 18:00Dax Shepard?

  It's convenient.

• 18:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, and cool.

• 18:02Dax Shepard?

  And super cool, too.

• 18:11Dax Shepard?

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• 21:02Speaker 01

  Which is a fair question.

• 21:04Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. So Instagram has got something called teen accounts and they come with automatic protections built in by default. So anyone between 13 and 17 is automatically placed into this experience. They get age appropriate content settings, contact limits, so that by default, only people they're already connected to can message them. And time management tools, daily time limit reminders, and also sleep mode that mutes notifications from 10:00 PM to 7:00 AM.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  Sleep mode is genius.

• 21:31Dax Shepard?

  Right? And here's the thing, for anyone under 16, a parent has to give permission to change any of those settings to be less strict. The guardrails are on and Instagram keeps building new safety features to create age appropriate experiences for teens.

• 21:47Speaker 01

  I am really glad Instagram's helping to give parents peace of mind with teen accounts.

• 21:51Dax Shepard?

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• 22:35Dax Shepard?

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• 22:56Dax Shepard?

  Mark?

• 22:57Speaker 03

  Hello.

• 22:58Dax Shepard?

  Hi, how are you?

• 22:59Speaker 03

  I'm doing great. How are you?

• 23:00Dax Shepard?

  Oh, so good. I see that you're in a bedroom. Where is this bedroom located?

• 23:05Speaker 03

  It's in Winnipeg, Canada.

• 23:07Speaker 01

  Ooh, a Canadian.

• 23:09Dax Shepard?

  Mark, I don't, you'll care about this, but when we do Armchair Anonymous, it's almost like 50% of our callers are Canadian. I need an explanation for it because I don't think 50% of our listeners.

• 23:18Speaker 03

  Have you been to Winnipeg, either of you?

• 23:20Dax Shepard?

  Not been to Winnipeg, but they film a bunch there, right? Is that where they film Fargo?

• 23:24Speaker 03

  That might be Alberta, but they do film a bunch here for sure. A lot of friends that kind of help in the industry and then we hear about all the celebrities coming through. It's always big news here.

• 23:35Dax Shepard?

  Is it mountainy where you're at?

• 23:37Speaker 03

  No, it's the prairies, right in the center.

• 23:39Dax Shepard?

  Oh, okay.

• 23:40Speaker 03

  To the best of my knowledge, you've only had one Winnipeg guest on.

• 23:45Dax Shepard?

  Who?

• 23:45Speaker 03

  And it is such a small town here. I mean, it's 800,000 people, but that's my best friend's wife.

• 23:52Speaker 01

  What?

• 23:53Dax Shepard?

  Wait, that was on Armchair Anonymous?

• 23:55Speaker 03

  She was a full-on guest. Her name's Kate Bowler. She's an author.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh my God, how fun. Wow, small world.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  Small town. If you have another Winnipeg'er, I'll probably be close friends with them too.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  That's exciting.

• 24:08Dax Shepard?

  That works. You know, every time we meet someone from Boston, which there's several million people there, Monica always says, do you know Ben and Matt? And they never do.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  And they don't, but one day they will.

• 24:17Dax Shepard?

  But you need like people you love from Winnipeg that way.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  It's not, I don't get to pick and choose where Ben and Matt are from.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  Fair enough. No, you don't.

• 24:24Dax Shepard?

  Okay. So Mark, you have an extreme weather story.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  I do. Takes place two hours east, place called Lake of the Woods in Ontario. So we're in the prairies, but it's Canadian shield there. Like it looks the same as the Muskogas. And this weekend, it was 2015, June, lots of friends coming out for the weekend. All of them are pretty close friends other than one friend of ours, Andrea is bringing a guy, Jeff, kind of plays into the story a bit.

• 24:51Dax Shepard?

  How big of a group is the group of people?

• 24:53Speaker 03

  So we are nine adults and my two children who are three and five at the time. So Saturday morning, weather's gloomy. It's supposed to be a miserable weekend. We'll make the most of it. So we have breakfast on the dock in the rain under the roof. Weather clears up towards the end of that. Let's go for a boat ride. Might be our only chance. The only boat that we have that works, it's my father's pride and joy. So probably has more hours like waxing it on the lift than in the water all summer. But I'm going to take it 26 foot inboard. It'll work, but I hate driving it. I do not want to fix it if I break it, all those things. So we head out to a friend's place, tried to just go for a boat ride 30 minutes east of that yet.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  Huge lake goes down into Minnesota. Even you can go for hours in any direction.

• 25:39Dax Shepard?

  Oh, wow.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  So we get there, we're going to take a scenic route back, but it starts getting a little darker. So we're just going to go straight back the way we came. So heading back halfway through that, it starts raining, so it's not a big deal. We're going to put the top up. We'll keep going. Some people have stayed in the front. We'll get wet. We'll dry off when we get back to the dock. And a minute after that starts hailing worse.

• 26:02Dax Shepard?

  That's painful.

• 26:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. So they're coming in, it's fine, but it's still, we're just going to go back. We're probably halfway there. A minute after that, it's hailing so bad, feels like it's going to smash the windows. Fiberglass boat. It just sounds way worse than it probably is. So we stop and that's when I noticed there's a cloud ahead of us. It's the whole sky. Never seen anything like it before and ever since, but it's like churning like a paddle wheel.

• 26:23Dax Shepard?

  Ooh.

• 26:23Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 26:24Dax Shepard?

  Like a horizontal tornado.

• 26:26Speaker 03

  Exactly. And it's greenish, dark blue. Not an expert in that. Doesn't sound like something I want any part of. So we're going to turn around. We're going to go back the way we came. Not a big deal. Everyone's in. So now the layout of the boat is like Jeff, this like new alpha guy that's come into the group to date. Our friend is like right beside me, facing backwards. And then it's a spacious boat, but there's nine of us in there, plus two kids are at my feet. So it's like, we're pretty crammed in. No one's really looking out because everyone's trying to stay warm. Also worthy of note now, temperature's dropping like crazy and we have a friend, Amy, who has a cold allergy. So her throat can close up.

• 27:04Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 27:05Dax Shepard?

  She's in the wrong country.

• 27:07Speaker 03

  It's amazing she's alive because she's from Winnipeg.

• 27:09Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah. She needs to be in Florida.

• 27:11Speaker 03

  We're still just getting away from this cloud at this point. So Jeff's looking out the back and I'm just piloting the boat. And then he like motions to me and I look and there's a funnel cloud coming out of the cloud.

• 27:25Speaker 03

  Okay, not ideal. And then the bay that we are driving down, you can't really maneuver. So as I prepared to tell the story, it's like, why didn't I do a few things different or like most things different? But there's like islands and rocks under the water. So you're kind of stuck going straight in one direction. That's right. It's called Terming and Bay. It's fairly wide, but you can't really use all of that because there's stuff in the way. So we're going down. Now I'm pinning it, probably like 45, 50 miles an hour for a boat full of people. It's too fast. But we're going tornado touches down behind us and Jeff points back. And I don't think anyone else is really aware, which is good. My kids certainly aren't. They're just huddled underneath.

• 28:06Speaker 03

  And tornado touched down and it's like wall, like inception, the earth turns vertical.

• 28:13Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 28:14Speaker 03

  I promise you, this is like, my memory is the entire, it wasn't like a funnel full of water. There's a wall of water now chasing us and it's gaining because obviously we're not getting away from it. Hit it even harder. We are maxed now.

• 28:26Dax Shepard?

  Is the water getting choppy as well?

• 28:28Speaker 03

  Oh, so bad. Like we're like getting air, but it does not really matter. We're cutting through it. Okay. But it's bad. We're not getting away from it. So I realized at one point, not only it's choppy, but that boat has high shoulders. But we're at a 45 degree pitch. So the water's almost swamping us on the one side. But there's a like granite cliff on the side. So I don't have 50 years of piloting experience, but I know it's windy. You're going to turn into it. Can't do it because there's a cliff right there. Jeff, on the other hand, is telling me to beach the boat because he's kind of freaking out, but he doesn't know us well. And he doesn't know me at all. So he doesn't know if I'm capable of like sustaining his life. Like he doesn't want to die with people he doesn't know. So he's given me a lot of advice in my ear.

• 29:13Speaker 03

  But great guy. Tough when I tell it, told it a lot of times over the last decade. To like fully experience again, the emotion that I was, I don't really fully remember, but I remember one thing. And that's when the boat's sideways, I don't know what to do. We're pinned. The water is almost to us and I remember thinking, okay, my kids are at my feet. When we sink, so that's how sure I was this was ending in disaster. When we sink, I'm going to take those little handles on the back of the life jackets. I'm going to grab them. I have to remember to swim backwards so that we don't drown because the roof's up. I remember thinking like, that's what I gotta do when this boat goes down, which seemed like an inevitability at that time. But I'm standing here. So I'm like talking to you. So we're okay.

• 29:57Speaker 03

  But tornado hits us. It goes right over us. So I can only navigate on the GPS. So it's pitch blackout. It's hailing so hard. I'm just looking at the GPS and this again seems unreal, but go to my grave swearing this happened. We're just going as fast as that boat will take us in one direction. And then on the GPS, all of a sudden we're just like a top, like we're going at 150 degrees, a different, like it spun us.

• 30:21Dax Shepard?

  Oh my God.

• 30:22Speaker 03

  So now we're going in a different direction towards where we can't go. So kind of like wind her down a bit. Okay, let's correct. And then a second later, again, we're going in a different direction and then wound it back. I've seen the movie Twister. That's my only experience with these things, but it's like, were we, I guess in the eye of a tornado or is there two? Like I don't really know what it was, but then because I'm not very smart, now I assume it's past. We realized this later, but we're like now chasing the tornado at 50 miles an hour because we don't know what we're doing.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 30:55Dax Shepard?

  You're so disoriented.

• 30:57Speaker 01

  And you can't see, ugh.

• 30:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. So it's like pitch black and then you're worried about other boats coming in. So I'm like sticking my head out beside the windshield and then trying to hear something, but you can't really navigate. And then Amy with the cold allergy, like the blankets are off of my children. There's like people surrounding her, trying to keep her warm. And like kids are freaking and then Amy's not doing well. Jeff's telling me to beach the boat.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  What does beach the boat mean?

• 31:25Dax Shepard?

  Just drive it to shore and fucking slam into shore. So everyone can get off.

• 31:29Speaker 03

  Get off the lake by any means necessary, I guess. So we can't go to where we're gonna go because it's a dock and the storm's wild. So then we end up in kind of an area, I knew that at a beach. So just ran up, saw a cottage, everyone ran up. And then I was the last one because I tied up the boat. And then when we got in there, everyone's like looking at me a little strange because I was putting my head outside of the boat at 100 kilometers an hour. And then I like welts all over my face. But storm passed, went back, everyone survived. I've asked other people, it was a fairly calm experience, other than a few. I think it was just so hectic that people didn't lose their minds.

• 32:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:06Dax Shepard?

  They knew to not make the situation worse instinctively.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  A friend, Alec, was like, so I always thought from this comment that I was like a hero in this, and that's not the case because as I've reviewed to come on here, I realized like all the mistakes that were made are solely mine. And if it wasn't for me, we wouldn't have even been on the boat. But yeah, I was like, Alec, like, what was it? I didn't hear anything from you. And then he said, well, I just was looking at you and you were calm. So I thought must not be as bad as it seems. So I always thought, oh, man, like I am in charge. People are lucky to have me around, but every single decision made on that entire trip was mine solely. And we ended up under a tornado. So obviously.

• 32:45Dax Shepard?

  Evaluating a captain. Yeah, if you drive your passengers into tornado, that's right.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  Not a good deal.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. But not panicking is essential.

• 32:54Dax Shepard?

  Although I don't know if he was panicked, it would have gone much worse. I mean, I can't imagine.

• 32:58Speaker 01

  But then, but then everyone would have panicked.

• 33:00Speaker 03

  Maybe Jeff would have taken over, but we'd all be dead then, so.

• 33:05Speaker 01

  Oh, scary. That is so scary.

• 33:08Dax Shepard?

  What was the dynamic between you and Jeff, the new alpha male after that experience? Were you closer? Were you now bonded?

• 33:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I still see him. Him and Andrea did not work out. I don't think you can base a relationship on that traumatic of an experience so early on. But I see him around town because Winnipeg, like I said, and we're all friends of friends unrelated to that. But I think it was good, like that afternoon was the best afternoon because everyone's just ready to go. It was a good party afternoon because we all survived. Went through it and you just like tell different versions of that event. I remember calling my dad to be like, hey, save the boat. Like this is what happened and boats on the lift and we're good. And then getting almost no reaction. And then maybe the next summer, he just said, oh, hey, remember that thing that you went through last year? The tornado like took down all the trees in my neighbors. It was verified.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  Finally, it was like real, like it went through Brown's Island and then came across the bay. Then I think he realized that I wasn't just in some wind.

• 34:05Dax Shepard?

  Exaggerating. Yeah, yeah.

• 34:06Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 34:07Dax Shepard?

  I thought you were gonna say next summer he texts you, hey, you owe me $6,800. I just looked at the boat.

• 34:13Speaker 03

  No, thankfully not. He's replaced a few props that I busted on his boat. Not that day. That day I kept it safe.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 34:21Dax Shepard?

  Oh, heroin. Look, I didn't get that extreme, but I know that fucking feeling because we were coming up the locks. It takes a long time to come up in the locks, like maybe 25 minutes. And just watching this insane thunderstorm move over the lake that we're about to get deposited and just going was absolutely nothing I can do. I'm stuck in the locks and sure enough, they open up. We're just in an insane lightning storm in the middle of the lake.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  It was so bad.

• 34:45Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, you just gotta get home.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  Like, I guess.

• 34:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. And there's like a weird lake effect for weather where you can almost see the exact edge of the rain. And you're like, well, I can just zip around there maybe because many times we've been stuck in rain.

• 34:58Dax Shepard?

  I was looking out and going like, oh, thank God, there's other idiots out here. I'm comforted by the fact that these people are on jet skis and that seems more dangerous, but just barely.

• 35:09Speaker 03

  There's no windshield wipers. So then when it's raining, it gets really awful out there.

• 35:13Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I was looking through some tiny sliver between my sunglasses and the windshield and still getting pelted. Well, Mark, thanks for that heroin tale. Are you guys heading back out soon?

• 35:24Speaker 03

  It used to be every single weekend, but we have one son that plays baseball. And so now every single weekend is baseball. And you kind of hope he doesn't make the good team so that you can actually have a summer. But that all ends in July. So then we'll go out literally every weekend. That's the prairie way. You live in town during the week and then you take off for the lake if you can, if you're lucky enough to have a spot.

• 35:46Dax Shepard?

  Oh, I'm happy for your kids. That's the best kind of summer.

• 35:49Speaker 03

  It is great.

• 35:49Dax Shepard?

  Well, Mark, great meeting you, brother.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Thanks for chatting.

• 35:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, you guys too.

• 35:52Dax Shepard?

  All right, we look forward to our third Winnipeg Ian. This has been two for two success.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  That's right. We're nailing it.

• 35:59Speaker 01

  Bye.

• 36:00Dax Shepard?

  Bye.

• 36:00Speaker 03

  Bye.

• 36:08Dax Shepard?

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• 38:36Dax Shepard?

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• 38:50Dax Shepard?

  That's the dream. You just described one of my ideal fall nights.

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• 40:09Speaker 05

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• 40:10Dax Shepard?

  Hi, is this Janine? You're in a kid's bunk bed.

• 40:13Speaker 05

  I am in a kid's bunk bed.

• 40:14Dax Shepard?

  Minimum of two, I would imagine.

• 40:16Speaker 05

  I do have two kids. This is true. And I didn't have a closet and I tried to follow the rules.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  This is great. It sounds great.

• 40:23Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, you've done an excellent job. And where are you, Janine?

• 40:26Speaker 05

  I am in Pacific Northwest. I was gonna make you guess, but I didn't have any context clues. To be more specific of where I am, I'm actually on the Oregon coast. I live in Tillamook.

• 40:36Dax Shepard?

  Oh, wow. Home of Tillamook cheese?

• 40:39Speaker 01

  Love the cheese.

• 40:40Dax Shepard?

  Is that an enormous operation? Cause I always think, cause In-N-Out famously uses Tillamook cheese. God bless them. That's half the reason that place is so delicious.

• 40:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:49Dax Shepard?

  And I do wonder, how big is the Tillamook cheese plant?

• 40:53Speaker 05

  It's pretty big, but it's not the only place they make the cheese now. But it is really good size and it's our largest employer here in Tillamook County is the cheese factory. There we have a couple of others. And like right now, this is peak season for us. So we, as people who live here, do not frequent the cheese factory from about April to October.

• 41:14Dax Shepard?

  Because tourists are there?

• 41:15Speaker 05

  Oh, busy. And if you do commit to it, I tell every tourist that comes through, just be okay with ice cream at 10 a.m. when they open. Cause like, I'm not going at two o'clock in the afternoon.

• 41:25Dax Shepard?

  So you can get ice cream? Do they also give out cheese samples?

• 41:28Speaker 05

  They do. Since COVID, it's now the little like wrapped cheese.

• 41:32Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 41:33Speaker 05

  They have a full-service restaurant and you can get all sorts of stuff there.

• 41:37Dax Shepard?

  Ooh, do they make a great grilled cheese there?

• 41:40Speaker 05

  I hear that they do. I have the unfortunate affliction of not being able to eat dairy, so I don't know.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 41:47Dax Shepard?

  Same, girl. I mean, I can, I'm just miserable when I do.

• 41:50Speaker 05

  Correct. Sometimes you commit to the misery if you know you're gonna be home.

• 41:54Dax Shepard?

  Okay, great. So yours is more a little lower G.I. Mine's congestion. Yeah, it just fucks me up. Okay, so you have an extreme weather story.

• 42:02Speaker 05

  I do have an extreme weather story. To set the stage, it is 2013 and my parents at the time are retired, living in Hawaii. We had our son, who was just about eight months old. And this would be the first time on an airplane for him, where he was awake and conscious of that, as well as to see grandparents in their living space. So we flew to Hawaii for a trip. And you probably know this, Dax, once you have kids, you as the child are just nothing. They just want the grandkids. My parents sent my husband and I off for a whole day of adventure while they watched our eight-month-old. They lived on the side of the island.

• 42:40Dax Shepard?

  Wait, what island are you on?

• 42:42Speaker 05

  Oahu.

• 42:43Dax Shepard?

  Oahu, okay.

• 42:43Speaker 05

  The Koko Trailhead. It's like a super steep mountain. They live kind of in that neighborhood and it's where Bruno Mars had a house, Downey Hunter supposedly had a house.

• 42:53Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 42:53Dax Shepard?

  So it's upscale?

• 42:54Speaker 05

  Yes, it was super upscale, fancy schmancy. So that day, we took the mopeds out and we rode the mopeds. And then we went into Oahu and my husband surfed and I sat on the beach. And then we had had reservations at Turtle Bay on the north part of the island. So just for reference, that's like an hour away. So we head up north and we stopped along the way. We went to all like cutesy little places up there.

• 43:18Dax Shepard?

  We know that car ride well, Monica.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  We've done it.

• 43:21Dax Shepard?

  That's where that fun burger shop was in front of the surf competition or whatever?

• 43:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was cute.

• 43:25Speaker 05

  It's a super fun place. And so Turtle Bay is amazing. We had a great meal on Turtle Bay, right on the waters.

• 43:30Dax Shepard?

  For people who have seen Sarah Marshall, that's where, forgetting Sarah Marshall was shot.

• 43:34Speaker 05

  I forgot about that. We finished dinner. It's sometime in the evening. It's now dark and we take off to head home, back to the other side of the island. It rains every day in Hawaii. No big deal.

• 43:45Dax Shepard?

  And did you ride mopeds up there?

• 43:46Speaker 05

  We didn't. We were in a Mini Cooper. It's my cousin's Mini Cooper. She lived with my parents at the time and we're driving. It starts to rain pretty significantly at one point. And we're just listening to the radio and then the emergency broadcast alarm comes on.

• 44:02Dax Shepard?

  Oh, boy.

• 44:03Speaker 05

  And it's listing off all of these counties, towns, I don't know. It's all Hawaiian names. I don't even know where we are on the island at this point. Listing all these counties and names to be aware of flash flood warnings. And we're like, okay, but that's not gonna be us. So we keep driving and Dave's like, man, these puddles are getting legit in this Mini Cooper. I am hydroplanning kind of a lot. And I go, okay, babe, should we just pull over for a while? Like, and just wait the storm out? He's like, I don't think so. I bet we're gonna outdrive it. I feel like we don't need to keep driving, but sure, we'll keep going. We keep going.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 44:42Speaker 05

  And it's just pouring. I mean, rain that I've never experienced before in my life. Just torrential downpour, the windshield wipers. I mean, you might as well just not even have them going.

• 44:51Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 44:52Speaker 05

  And he's just two hands on the wheel, forward. And all of a sudden, I feel this like rush of something hit the side of the car. And I think we've hit a guardrail. I'm like, what are you doing? Stay on the road. I'm not in control of this car anymore.

• 45:10Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 45:12Speaker 05

  We are literally floating.

• 45:14Dax Shepard?

  Oh.

• 45:15Speaker 05

  What we didn't know was that there was like a creek or a river of some kind on this side. Like the ocean's on the left side of us. Some type of waterway is over here, whether it's just a ditch that's overflowing, no idea. But it had crested over at that moment that we drove by and it started to carry us off.

• 45:34Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 45:35Dax Shepard?

  Oh, boy, towards the ocean.

• 45:36Speaker 05

  Correct. I screamed and he was like cranking the wheel and somehow got enough footing, or maybe it was not deep water, whatever, we were able to get off at like a side maintenance road. And unfortunately, as soon as we get 20 feet, not even, maybe 10 feet up this road, the car just dies.

• 45:56Speaker 01

  Oh, it's had enough.

• 45:57Speaker 05

  Well, he was like, I screwed up. I, in a panic, hit the gas, not realizing that I was not in control of the car, that we were in water. He's like, I didn't comprehend that. So as you know, when you hit the gas, you intake all the water and coast the motor. So we get up this road and we find that we are accompanied by about like six or seven other cars, other groups of people that are up on this road, just kind of hanging out. I immediately burst into tears, cause that's my response. Because I'm thinking, oh my God, what if our son had been with us? He's eight months old. What would we be doing? This is so crazy. And Dave, my husband, the calm, cool, collected one, is like, but he's not with us. We're gonna be fine. So I feel like 20, 30 minutes goes by.

• 46:42Speaker 05

  During that time, we turn around and a Honda Civic just floats right on by, out to the ocean.

• 46:48Dax Shepard?

  Out to the ocean.

• 46:49Speaker 05

  Out to the ocean. It's gone. And I'm like, is anyone concerned about those people? We see a city bus and that's the funniest part. They float through and you could tell the moment where the bus driver probably goes, yeah, I can't float through. So then he tries to back up the city bus. That did not work either. Thankfully, he was heavy enough to just float forward instead of floating out to the ocean. So I don't know how many people were on said city bus. And then all of a sudden, thankfully, we see sirens. We can see the flashing lights and the water's receded enough that the fire truck can get through. And all these people who probably are locals are starting to like leave. And they know all these other backroads where our car is dead.

• 47:32Speaker 05

  And I think another group also has a dead vehicle. So we all hop in the fire truck and they back us out. It's great. We think, perfect, problem solved. They're gonna take us to a fire station so we can figure out where we are to call for help. Because that's the other problem. Cell service wasn't great where we were. And we're not from here, so I don't even know how to call a ride. I don't even know where to tell my dad to come and pick us up, right? We've now called him to say, hey, we're safe, but car is dead. We need to figure out how to get home. The fire department just says, glad we could help you today. And they move on about their day. And so we're just stranded on the side of the road. No idea what to do, how to get home. And then cue random guy in his 50s in a Buick. And he's like, are you guys stuck? You know, I kind of heard you talking.

• 48:17Speaker 05

  I have to turn around. I'm headed to work on the other side of the island, but I'm happy to give you a ride wherever you need.

• 48:23Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 48:24Speaker 05

  It's eight o'clock at night. It's dark. It's a 50-some-year-old white male and my girl feelers are like, no. We don't get in cars with people we don't know. This is a bad choice. We should not do this. And my husband's just like, sure.

• 48:39Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 48:40Speaker 06

  And for some reason, he sits in the front seat.

• 48:43Dax Shepard?

  Well, I think that's the right move in case the guy's gets wildly, he's got to be able to attack him.

• 48:48Speaker 06

  So funny. That's exactly what Dave said that you might say, Dave.

• 48:52Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, it's the logical that are directly behind him so he can strangle him.

• 48:56Speaker 06

  We get in and we head down the road and he says, oh, you know, I'm so sorry. I have to stop at home because I have to go all the way around. I was gonna pick up my lunch on my way and now I won't have time because it's gonna take us longer the way we're going. So I need to stop at my house. We don't go to a second location. Like, this is terrible. I can't say anything to Dave in the car. So we get to this man's house and Dave's like, I really need to pee. I'm gonna go inside.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 49:23Dax Shepard?

  Grab a shower and a meal.

• 49:24Speaker 06

  What is happening? Can you just pee in the yard?

• 49:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:29Speaker 06

  Going in this house. He's like, it's gonna be fine. You're gonna go in with me. And I was like, absolutely not. In my mind, I didn't go in and he was like, no, you went into the foyer and just stood there like a creeper in the foyer of the house and you wouldn't go anywhere.

• 49:42Speaker 06

  And there's like a random foreign exchange student, a random twenty something year old girl hanging out in his house. It was the oddest situation and he came out and Dave was like, yeah, that was pretty weird. I'm not sure the vibe in that house, but I'm pretty sure she was there because she wanted to be.

• 50:00Speaker 01

  Oh, boy.

• 50:01Speaker 06

  It also could have been that maybe she was forced to be there. We don't know. And I was just like, dear God, why are we in this car? But we get back in the car and he drives us back and all goes swimmingly. My dad picks us up wherever. I don't even remember where we rendezvous at that point. And that was it. But that radio announcement that comes on, it says at the very end, turn around, don't drown.

• 50:26Dax Shepard?

  Oh, it does.

• 50:28Speaker 06

  Now we take that very seriously. Anytime I hear that, I just stop and make sure I'm not wherever that's supposed to be. And now any rain that we have, oh babe, this was turn around, don't drown rain.

• 50:39Dax Shepard?

  Right.

• 50:40Speaker 06

  We use that for everything now. Marker for how bad things are.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  Scary.

• 50:46Dax Shepard?

  Well, I'm glad that you guys are safe and that should be my priority. But all I can think about is was the Mini Cooper salvageable? Did they get it back running?

• 50:55Speaker 06

  No, they did not. So the next day, my dad and Dave went out to go find it and look for it. And what's really funny about that is they're waiting for the tow truck to come to pick that up. The tow truck comes and the guys are like, oh, man, I'm really surprised that this still has all the wheels on it. And Dave's like, why are you surprised? Because they're like, this is a really rough neighborhood. I can't believe that the car is not in pieces in the morning.

• 51:19Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 51:20Speaker 06

  But the only silver lining to that is he got that car for like $2,000. They had to total it and insurance gave him eight. So he made money.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 51:28Dax Shepard?

  Oh, well, good. He should have given you guys three thousand. Split the proceeds. Janina, it's lovely meeting you.

• 51:34Speaker 01

  Thanks for calling.

• 51:36Speaker 06

  I want to say one thing. My shout out is to my kids. They listen to this all the time. And my daughter, her name is Camille. And the fun story about that is she was 100% named from watching Parenthood.

• 51:50Dax Shepard?

  Oh, wow.

• 51:51Speaker 06

  And then my son Archer, who is featured in said story.

• 51:55Speaker 01

  We're lucky to have you guys as listeners.

• 51:56Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, enjoy that Oregon coast. Take care.

• 51:59Speaker 06

  Bye.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 52:01Speaker 06

  This is crazy. Hold on, let me make sure I'm recording.

• 52:04Dax Shepard?

  Okay. Where are you at Samantha?

• 52:06Speaker 06

  I am in Bradford, Ontario, about an hour north of Toronto.

• 52:10Dax Shepard?

  Oh, lovely. We've had a lot this week of folks from that same area in Ontario.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  It's true.

• 52:16Dax Shepard?

  I always ask, how close to Muskoka are you?

• 52:19Speaker 06

  About an hour and a half, depending on which part of Muskoka.

• 52:22Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. And do you get up to the lake a lot in the summer?

• 52:25Speaker 06

  As much as possible.

• 52:26Dax Shepard?

  It's so dreamy.

• 52:27Speaker 06

  It is. It's the best.

• 52:28Dax Shepard?

  Where does your extreme weather story take place?

• 52:30Speaker 06

  It actually happens in the Khorthas. So more to the west, but also a very beautiful area of Ontario.

• 52:39Speaker 01

  Oh, nice.

• 52:39Dax Shepard?

  Khorthas. Say that again.

• 52:41Speaker 06

  Khortha.

• 52:42Dax Shepard?

  Never heard of the Khorthas.

• 52:44Speaker 06

  Before I jump into this story, can I tell you a crazy sidebar story?

• 52:48Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:49Speaker 06

  Monica, you're gonna hate this.

• 52:50Speaker 01

  Uh oh, is it like a vagina?

• 52:53Dax Shepard?

  Mouse or vagina related.

• 52:55Speaker 01

  A mouse and a water bottle.

• 52:56Speaker 06

  A few weeks ago, I get a call from my sister in law and her and my three nieces, my youngest niece likes to play in their van. And so all the three of them are in there and all of a sudden my middle niece says, Mom, why is that cup moving?

• 53:15Speaker 06

  Because her little sister was playing with this reusable mug. Any guesses what was inside the mug?

• 53:21Speaker 01

  Rat water bottle? No.

• 53:23Speaker 06

  A rat water bottle.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  No.

• 53:25Dax Shepard?

  Oh, my God. I was joking.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  Number two. This is crazy.

• 53:30Dax Shepard?

  This is pandemic level now.

• 53:32Speaker 01

  This is, you guys, check your water bottles. The lid was on, I guess, if she was playing with it.

• 53:37Speaker 06

  The lid was on. The lid was on.

• 53:39Dax Shepard?

  What did they do? They turn into squids and liquefy and pour themselves in and reconstitute?

• 53:45Speaker 01

  They can remove their ribs and stuff and like, oh, that's so disgusting.

• 53:51Speaker 06

  I know. And also, I thought that was like a one in a million story when I heard that. And now I'm like, oh, these rats are just infiltrating our vehicles.

• 54:00Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 54:01Dax Shepard?

  Fuck, dude.

• 54:03Speaker 01

  Disgusting. All right. Well, now everyone can.

• 54:07Dax Shepard?

  Resume.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, yep.

• 54:08Dax Shepard?

  Resume their terror.

• 54:12Speaker 06

  Okay, so my story takes place back in 2022. It was the May 2, 4 long weekend, which is the first long weekend of the summer in Ontario. So tons of people go out camping, go up north, go to Muskoka, you're opening your cottages. And so my husband and I decide that we are gonna go back country camping and we're gonna bring our five year old daughter with us on this adventure. So we're meeting two of our friends there. So we drive to the Khorthas. We drive on this very

• 54:52Speaker 06

  long logging road. So in the middle of nowhere, we park our cars and we start to portage. So we have our canoes, we have all our camping stuff, and we have to do this one hour trek to the lake where we're gonna launch our canoes and go and find a camping spot somewhere.

• 55:10Dax Shepard?

  You Canadians get after it, man. Because the other person we talked to had a lot of portaging. We've heard a lot of portaging lately. You Canadians, you're like, yeah, it's gonna involve some canoeing to get to where we want to go.

• 55:21Speaker 06

  We're gluttons for punishment, you know? It's all part of the fun. So we get to the lake. Everything is great. The weather is beautiful. We launch the canoes. My beautiful daughter is leaned back in the canoe, her five year old self, and she says, Mom, this is just the best day ever. And so we're canoeing along and all of a sudden we hear thunder. So we're like, okay, we have to get off the lake. We start counting because that's an indication of how far away the storm is. And we figure we have about 12 minutes. So we're paddling along, trying to get to the first bit of land that we see. Our canoe lands on the land. Within two minutes, it is raining aggressively

• 56:05Speaker 06

  and the winds are insane. So I grab a tarp and I put it over mine and my daughter's head and she's understandably terrified. And I'm like, no, this happens all the time. It's gonna blow over quickly and we're gonna be on our way and everything's okay. The storm came on so quickly that she didn't even have time to like, take off her life jacket. So we're under this tarp and all of a sudden, I hear a tree snap.

• 56:33Speaker 06

  And in my head, I'm like Widowmaker, because that's what they call trees who fall on campers in the middle of the night and kill you.

• 56:43Speaker 06

  But I don't hear my husband or my two friends like screaming, saying like, get out of the way or anything like that. So I'm like, it's probably fine. I grab my daughter and kind of tuck her under me as much as I can. And within the same second, bam, a tree lands on my daughter and I.

• 57:02Speaker 01

  No.

• 57:03Speaker 06

  So the impact from the tree catapults my daughter out of my arms.

• 57:08Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 57:09Dax Shepard?

  Like a loose football.

• 57:10Speaker 06

  Yeah. So in my head, I'm like, my daughter is dead and I brought her on this trip. And now she's gone. I can hear my best friend screaming my daughter's name at the top of her lungs. And so I whip the tarp off of me and by the grace of God, I hear my daughter say, Mom. And I just look at her and I say, run. And I look over and my friend's husband was coming around and the look of terror in his eye, I was like, oh, this is bad. And so my daughter runs to him. I like Hulk this tree off me, get up and start running, realize that the wind has been knocked

• 57:53Speaker 06

  out of me. So I'm like, huh, you know that feeling?

• 57:56Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, you're gonna die.

• 57:57Speaker 06

  And I'm screaming, get under the canoe. Because now I'm like, this whole forest is coming down on top of us. And my friend's like, Sam, we can't get under the canoe because when Alex, her husband, was trying to pull it in, the wind was so bad that it lifted him off the ground.

• 58:13Dax Shepard?

  Oh, wow.

• 58:14Speaker 06

  We again are just hiding under a tarp and I'm like, this is it for us. Like, we're done. Nice knowing you. So when the tree fell on me, my ankle popped out of the socket and then popped back in. So I'm injured at this point. Luckily, I think because my daughter was wearing her life jacket, it absorbed the impact of the tree falling on her and saved her life because it like protected her.

• 58:42Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 58:43Speaker 06

  Basically, from beginning to end, it's five minutes. After the storm passes, I'm like, get me the heck out of here. We're going back to our car. This weekend is done before it started. I'm traumatized.

• 58:55Dax Shepard?

  You're pulling the ripcord.

• 58:57Speaker 06

  And so we get back to the portage trail and in my head, I have this like third degree leg sprain. I have no idea what just happened. I'm terrified. And I'm like, I just need to get to my car and go home. No, when we get back to the portage trail, it's literally like a giant stomped through the forest. The trail is completely gone. The forest is completely torn up.

• 59:22Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 59:22Speaker 06

  We have to like hike over and under trees to get back to our vehicles.

• 59:28Dax Shepard?

  Dragging this canoe the whole time?

• 59:30Speaker 06

  No, we left the canoes there.

• 59:31Dax Shepard?

  Oh, okay, okay.

• 59:32Speaker 06

  We were like, we'll deal with that after. Like, let's just get to our home base. We get back to the vehicles. It took us like two hours to hike back to them. We get back to the cars and there's no way we can drive it out. The logging trail is gone. The forest is destroyed. There's nothing and I'm injured. So luckily I had a tiny bit of service. I call nine one one and they're like, yep, you're not the only one out there. We're sending a military helicopter to come pick you up.

• 1:00:01Dax Shepard?

  Wow.

• 1:00:03Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:00:04Speaker 06

  The military helicopter comes. They strap me to a board, strap my daughter on top of me. She instantly passes out from like shock and stress. What happened? It's called like a drenchero. I always say it wrong, but it's essentially like a tornado, but it's a huge gust of air that's more like an arrow. Travels really far, really fast. And the radars can't really pick up on it the same way they do a normal thunderstorm or a normal tornado. And that's why there was no warning.

• 1:00:38Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 1:00:40Speaker 06

  Luckily, right before I get strapped into the body board thing, I text my mom and I say, we're going to this hospital. Bless her soul, she drives four hours one way to pick me and my daughter and my husband up from the hospital. Our two friends had to stay there and hike out over like three days.

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 1:01:01Speaker 06

  Because again, the vehicles couldn't get out. Luckily, all I had was a sprain. My daughter didn't even have a scratch on her body. And then my husband and a group of his friends and our friends who were there with us spent the next three weeks chainsawing out the logging road so they could get our vehicles.

• 1:01:22Dax Shepard?

  Oh, my gosh, this is nuts.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  Why didn't the military helicopters take the others? I mean, I know.

• 1:01:28Dax Shepard?

  Limited space.

• 1:01:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, but three days.

• 1:01:31Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  They could have died also.

• 1:01:33Dax Shepard?

  All right, so we have some photos.

• 1:01:36Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:01:36Dax Shepard?

  Okay, I'm looking at one, someone in a blue jacket standing next to a tree that's fallen over. Is that the specific tree? No, or just one of them bazillion? Yeah, this whole forest is leveled. Whoa.

• 1:01:49Speaker 06

  So there is one picture with a canoe and like a hat in it.

• 1:01:54Dax Shepard?

  Yes, I'm looking at now.

• 1:01:55Speaker 06

  That's the tree that fell on us.

• 1:01:57Dax Shepard?

  Oh, boy.

• 1:01:58Speaker 06

  So we were under that.

• 1:02:00Dax Shepard?

  Oh, wow. And a tree fell on someone's car.

• 1:02:02Speaker 06

  Yep, my friend's vehicle.

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  Oh, my.

• 1:02:04Dax Shepard?

  Oh, wow, no shit, three weeks. Yeah, there's a car covered in three fallen trees.

• 1:02:09Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 1:02:10Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, you don't really hear about that kind of, you hear about tornadoes and cyclones. That's wild.

• 1:02:15Speaker 06

  Yeah, the military guy said to my husband, we're going back out because I think 22 people died from that storm, from trees falling on them. So we had the best of a bad situation.

• 1:02:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:27Dax Shepard?

  Oh, well, Samantha, it's lovely meeting you. Yeah.

• 1:02:30Speaker 06

  Yes, lovely meeting you too. Dax, I have to say, my mom passed away March of 2025 at the age of 62.

• 1:02:39Dax Shepard?

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 1:02:40Speaker 06

  From a rare and aggressive type of breast cancer called metaplastic carcinoma, less than 1% of people get this type of cancer. But I was her caregiver, just like you were with your dad. And your description of like the immediate aftermath of grief and feeling that moment of relief and your talk you had with Anderson Cooper, it just captures that specific experience of being a caregiver for a sick and dying parent so well. So I just appreciate you sharing and writing. And grief is very lonely, even if you're in it with siblings or other family members.

• 1:03:23Speaker 06

  It's so lonely and you just capture the experience so well. So I appreciate that.

• 1:03:29Dax Shepard?

  Oh, yeah, my pleasure. Thank you. And I'm so sorry.

• 1:03:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, thank you. She was the best. And Monica, please make another Beth's dead.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  We just might.

• 1:03:39Speaker 06

  I also have to shout out my son, Mason. He was very upset that this story involves his sister and not him.

• 1:03:45Speaker 01

  Oh, sure.

• 1:03:46Speaker 06

  Mason, Lila, I love you both.

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  Thanks for chatting with us.

• 1:03:51Dax Shepard?

  Lovely meeting you. Have a great summer.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  Bye.

• 1:03:54Speaker 06

  Yes, you too, bye.

• 1:03:55Dax Shepard?

  Bye.

• 1:03:56Speaker 01

  These trees are falling on people.

• 1:03:58Dax Shepard?

  The rats are in the.

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  The rats are in the water bottles.

• 1:04:02Dax Shepard?

  Drinking containers, the trees are falling. Happy summer.

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  Happy summer.

• 1:04:06Dax Shepard?

  I never worry about trees. And here we go. I mean, they're coming down left and right.

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  They really are. It's time to worry.

• 1:04:12Dax Shepard?

  I gotta think about this because as you know, every time we do one of these camping prompts, I want to go camping. But now I really gotta, I gotta eye the surrounding. Do some core samples. All right.

• 1:04:23Speaker 01

  Love you.

• 1:04:24Dax Shepard?

  Love you.

• 1:04:26Speaker 07

  Do you want to sing a tune or something? We know a theme song.

• 1:04:29Dax Shepard?

  Oh, okay, great.

• 1:04:31Speaker 07

  We don't have a theme song for this new show. So here I go, go, go. We're gonna ask some random questions and with the help of our cherries, we'll get some suggestions. On the fire, rhyme dish. On the fire, rhyme dish. Enjoy.