"Jennifer Lopez"

Share your cookie-dough with the world! …It’s Jennifer Lopez. Reading all the books, doing all the things, endless possibility, and a little piece of tape. Plus more advice from Dr. Dingdong, on an all-new SmartLess.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:01Sean Hayes?

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• 0:44Sean Hayes?

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• 1:34Sean Hayes?

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• 2:10Sean Hayes?

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• 2:54Jason Bateman?

  Okay, this is Jason. I'm doing a cold open. I'm real snacky. It's carbohydrates. They're crunchy, they're salty, they're not good for me, but man, it feels good. Doesn't it feel good, gang? To do a nice crunchy salty snack? Or do you like the gooey sweet ones? I don't know, maybe a combo of both is great, right? But which do you start with? Which do you end with? What do you put in between? I know what you put in between. You put in a nice, big, fat, well-cooked episode of Smartless. Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. Welcome to Smartless.

• 3:51Jason Bateman?

  Fuck, the stress. You know, guys, I can't have the stress. I lost my voice and it's just now come back a little bit. I still have a little brunt of...

• 4:02Sean Hayes?

  You screaming at people on set?

• 4:04Will Arnett?

  Is it from the Knicks games? Or is it just screaming at people on set again?

• 4:07Jason Bateman?

  No, I think it was, it was a... I want my chair over here!

• 4:10Will Arnett?

  We're here.

• 4:11Jason Bateman?

  It was, I think it was a cold or it might have been allergies.

• 4:15Will Arnett?

  No.

• 4:15Jason Bateman?

  I mean, yeah, it started.

• 4:17Will Arnett?

  By yourself?

• 4:18Jason Bateman?

  It started, yeah, it started in my throat and it went to my nose and then it landed on my vocal cords.

• 4:24Will Arnett?

  You're a little fragile. Jason's a little fragile. I feel like this is the first time we're meeting the real JB right now.

• 4:29Jason Bateman?

  And I was a little frazzled getting to Mike today because, that's what we call it, right? Getting to Mike.

• 4:34Sean Hayes?

  Getting to Mike.

• 4:35Jason Bateman?

  Because I wanted to have my teeth brushed for you. Do you guys brush your teeth for me?

• 4:41Sean Hayes?

  Of course, always.

• 4:42Will Arnett?

  No, not me.

• 4:43Jason Bateman?

  You don't?

• 4:44Sean Hayes?

  Don't you brush? Oh, look at his teeth.

• 4:46Jason Bateman?

  Did you, did you sleep with a whitener on too long last night?

• 4:48Will Arnett?

  No, I went to the.

• 4:49Sean Hayes?

  Look at that.

• 4:50Will Arnett?

  I went to the, I went to the dentist yesterday and he's like, I don't wipe my teeth. How about that?

• 4:56Sean Hayes?

  And you smoke.

• 4:58Jason Bateman?

  And you drink coffee.

• 4:59Will Arnett?

  I don't.

• 5:00Sean Hayes?

  And you drink coffee.

• 5:00Jason Bateman?

  And you self tan.

• 5:02Will Arnett?

  I don't self tan. That's the one where don't make me net.

• 5:07Will Arnett?

  You and Kimmel, Kimmel, nobody loves hitting me in my tan more than Molly.

• 5:12Sean Hayes?

  Wait, what's self tan mean? You just lays off?

• 5:15Jason Bateman?

  That's like a cream. But where do you find the time and how is it always so even, Mr. Trump?

• 5:21Will Arnett?

  Well, you know, you know, you know what I do every day. I do my walk every day. And so that's like an hour.

• 5:28Jason Bateman?

  I don't, I don't talk to me like I'm fucking watching you doing your fucking heavy hands and shit.

• 5:33Will Arnett?

  You know, you know what my.

• 5:35Jason Bateman?

  Your Velcro ankle weights?

• 5:37Will Arnett?

  You know my routine.

• 5:38Jason Bateman?

  Is it?

• 5:39Will Arnett?

  With my weight vest. Somebody took a picture of me with my weight vest yesterday on Loma Vai.

• 5:44Sean Hayes?

  Oh, really? I gotta see that.

• 5:45Jason Bateman?

  But Will, I spend a lot of time when I'm not working on the golf course, as we're aware.

• 5:51Sean Hayes?

  What?

• 5:51Jason Bateman?

  That's, that is, that's, that's five hours of sun exposure and I wear 100. So you're saying you're 20 minute.

• 5:58Will Arnett?

  I don't wear.

• 5:59Jason Bateman?

  Okay, that's what it is.

• 6:00Will Arnett?

  A and B, I don't wear a bucket hat.

• 6:03Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 6:04Will Arnett?

  Right?

• 6:04Jason Bateman?

  So you wear no sun protection whatsoever. You're kind of bragging about that right now to get yourself that nice color.

• 6:10Will Arnett?

  I'm not bragging about it.

• 6:11Jason Bateman?

  Fucking cancer.

• 6:12Will Arnett?

  I'm not, first of all, fucking cool it. It's early for me to die, okay?

• 6:18Jason Bateman?

  I've had, I've had skin cancer already. I had, I had something shaved off my, my, my eye. Remember that? I had to go in there and got it all scraped off. That was scary.

• 6:26Will Arnett?

  I get checked. I have a friend of mine and she's been giving me a lot of shit about sunscreen lately.

• 6:31Jason Bateman?

  Is, are these checks that you pay for or is it? You say a friend.

• 6:35Will Arnett?

  Like a, like a close friend of mine.

• 6:37Jason Bateman?

  And then, does she check for ticks at the same time? All those tough to find spots?

• 6:45Sean Hayes?

  Whoops, found another one. She just squeezes it out. Like a zit.

• 6:49Will Arnett?

  You're like, you're covered in ticks.

• 6:52Sean Hayes?

  I found a couple leeches too.

• 6:54Will Arnett?

  I'm like, so?

• 6:55Jason Bateman?

  They have to remove the poison.

• 6:57Will Arnett?

  The ticks hit the ti-

• 7:00Sean Hayes?

  Oh my gosh.

• 7:01Jason Bateman?

  So wait, so you've got, you've got it, yeah, now you're getting into a sweat because you're thinking about all the possible risks you're taking.

• 7:07Will Arnett?

  I also, I've also had four coffees today, so having a coffee sweat.

• 7:10Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 7:11Will Arnett?

  You know, we were at dinner the other night, JB, you were missed.

• 7:14Jason Bateman?

  I know.

• 7:15Will Arnett?

  You were missed and, and Jen brought a photo up from our, our big family trip from a few years back where we went with all the kids and everything.

• 7:22Jason Bateman?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. God, I love that.

• 7:24Will Arnett?

  And there was a photo of, of all of us and then my head sticking out the back. Remember how tan I was? And my hair is sticking up and then I've got zinc on my lips and I look like a crazy person, right, Sean?

• 7:37Sean Hayes?

  We passed, we, we passed around the photo and everybody had something to say about it.

• 7:40Will Arnett?

  And I've never seen it, I'd never seen it before. I was like, what is, I look like an insane person.

• 7:45Sean Hayes?

  You look like, you look like a predator.

• 7:46Will Arnett?

  Like you guys came to the island and found me there. Like I'd, I'd laid out, you know, I'd written in the sand, SOS.

• 7:52Jason Bateman?

  We have to go back there.

• 7:54Will Arnett?

  I know.

• 7:54Jason Bateman?

  Back, guys.

• 7:56Will Arnett?

  It'd be fun to go now with the kids a little bit older. It'd be fun.

• 7:58Sean Hayes?

  How's it night? It's, it's fun being back for the weekend, yeah?

• 8:01Jason Bateman?

  It's very nice to be back for the weekend, yes.

• 8:02Will Arnett?

  I'm going to your Q and A, Jay, tomorrow at Netflix, because I want to, I know that you're doing a Q and A sesh.

• 8:07Jason Bateman?

  Right, eh? What the hell are you doing there?

• 8:09Will Arnett?

  Well, I'm just gonna go because I want to ask you questions about directing and stuff. I know you're giving like a thing. And so I got an email from Netflix about it, like, come join us. So I'm like, oh, I'm coming.

• 8:18Sean Hayes?

  Wear the zinc on your nose so that when you hold your hand up.

• 8:20Will Arnett?

  I'm gonna put a fake mustache and a hat and then I'm gonna sit in the back and I'm gonna be like, I've got a question.

• 8:26Jason Bateman?

  No, you should, you should play the crazy Italian guy from our podcast.

• 8:30Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 8:31Will Arnett?

  I love a black rabbit. What is your, these brothers are crazy.

• 8:38Will Arnett?

  You're on him.

• 8:40Jason Bateman?

  I can't believe they sent you an invite.

• 8:42Will Arnett?

  No, actually, a different friend of mine got an email about it and they sent it to me and I was like, oh, fucking send me that. I want to go. I want to go show up and crash. How good. And then, you know what? I did have the thought. I was like, if I did it, then I make it about me and I'm not going to go and do that.

• 8:56Jason Bateman?

  No, why do that?

• 8:57Sean Hayes?

  Please, please, please do.

• 8:58Will Arnett?

  I do it enough. There's so many people listening right now who are nodding going, I know, you do make it about you. Shut up. We hate your stupid stories.

• 9:06Jason Bateman?

  But what about, like, yeah, so I'm here this weekend to do this, uh, this, these interviews and stuff for, uh, for, uh, DTF and for Black Rabbit and stuff.

• 9:14Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 9:15Jason Bateman?

  And it's all talking. It's all talking. It's, you know, including this podcast. And I was looking at, like, literally 36 hours ago, I couldn't, I couldn't, I think it was like this. I couldn't make a sound. And I was like, oh, my God, I've got like five days of work ahead of me that's just talking. Luckily, I got a little prednisone in me and an antihistone.

• 9:35Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, good, good.

• 9:36Will Arnett?

  You know what? I was talking to our buddy who's, who's doing, um, Dog Day Afternoon. Not Jon Bernthal, but I was talking to, you guys know Jon Ortiz is the best. He's a great actor and he's a good buddy of mine. And he is on Broadway right now.

• 9:49Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 9:49Will Arnett?

  And he has a really bad cold and it's a night, he's like, it's a nightmare scenario.

• 9:54Jason Bateman?

  I almost called you, Sean, because I knew you'd probably have some, like, fancy Broadway doctor that knows how to deal with, with, with vocal, vocal stuff.

• 10:01Sean Hayes?

  Always. I have, I, too, the best, two of the best. I'll text you.

• 10:05Will Arnett?

  Boots knows.

• 10:05Jason Bateman?

  Wait, wait, is that, is it, wait, Sean, are you getting rid of paddles and going with Boots?

• 10:09Will Arnett?

  Right now, he's Boots. Right now, he's Boots.

• 10:11Jason Bateman?

  Oh, Boots McGee. Yeah.

• 10:13Sean Hayes?

  Boots, yeah, with a boot on. Um, but, uh,

• 10:16Will Arnett?

  Sean's got a point that he wants to make. I saw him, who are you looking at off camera who's giving you the cue to go into it? Is this guy?

• 10:22Sean Hayes?

  No, nobody, me. It's me.

• 10:24Will Arnett?

  Okay.

• 10:24Sean Hayes?

  I'm looking at all of you. No, we have to go because our guest is super famous and she has to work.

• 10:30Will Arnett?

  Oh, sorry.

• 10:31Jason Bateman?

  Okay. Here we go.

• 10:32Will Arnett?

  I should have got dressed up. I meanwhile got undressed.

• 10:35Jason Bateman?

  Put your sleeves back on.

• 10:36Will Arnett?

  I'm gonna put a nice pajama on.

• 10:38Sean Hayes?

  Oh, guys, my guest today, who I love and I live for, grew up in Castle Hill, New York, the middle of Three Sisters in an apartment.

• 10:45Jason Bateman?

  Andrew Martin.

• 10:47Sean Hayes?

  So small, they all shared a bed. There was always music in the house with constant reenactments of West Side Story. I could do the whole thing with her.

• 10:54Will Arnett?

  Chana with.

• 10:55Sean Hayes?

  But her parents still hoped she'd become a lawyer. Instead, she left college to pursue dance full time, left home and ended up sleeping in a Manhattan dance studio. Somewhere along the way, she taught Kerry Washington how to dance. I can't wait to ask about that. Then she became the first Latina actress ever paid a million dollars for a movie role.

• 11:14Will Arnett?

  Rita Moreno.

• 11:14Sean Hayes?

  Who's briefly been on this podcast before. It's the beautiful, multi-talented and unstoppable.

• 11:19Will Arnett?

  Jennifer Lopez.

• 11:19Sean Hayes?

  Lopez.

• 11:20Will Arnett?

  Yes.

• 11:20Jason Bateman?

  No way. Really got it. Very.

• 11:24Speaker 03

  It's for you a few.

• 11:25Will Arnett?

  No, when you said briefly, and then I remember you briefly on, yes.

• 11:29Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I was so close with Andrea Martin. God damn it.

• 11:32Speaker 03

  So close.

• 11:34Sean Hayes?

  Oh, my God, Jen, what are you drinking?

• 11:35Jason Bateman?

  Hi there.

• 11:37Speaker 03

  A little cappuccino.

• 11:39Sean Hayes?

  Oh, nice. Gets you going.

• 11:40Jason Bateman?

  What do you go with for the milk on that? Are we almond? Are we oat?

• 11:44Speaker 03

  I'm traditional. I like a 2% milk. I know everybody's with fancy oats and almonds and soy.

• 11:51Sean Hayes?

  Cow milk all the way.

• 11:52Will Arnett?

  Jason, Jason responds to that? You beta?

• 11:56Jason Bateman?

  Well, I know, but I feel, I got, I got word from one of those doctors back in the day that I'm lactose intolerant or I'm bad with the dairy or something like that. And so I've just, I've never had like cow milk since then. Plus, I did see a documentary once where they said the very disgusting fact, which is humans are the only species that drink the milk of another animal.

• 12:19Speaker 03

  I don't care.

• 12:20Jason Bateman?

  That like, that is weird, isn't it?

• 12:23Speaker 03

  It is weird. It is weird.

• 12:25Sean Hayes?

  I'm the same way. I don't care.

• 12:26Jason Bateman?

  I know. You drink full, tall glasses of milk, Sean.

• 12:29Sean Hayes?

  I don't care.

• 12:29Will Arnett?

  Yeah, you can't think about it.

• 12:30Jason Bateman?

  And it tastes so good. It tastes so good.

• 12:33Sean Hayes?

  Yeah. Plus, you, but Jennifer Lopez is always working out and exercising and staying in good health so she can have milk in her coffee.

• 12:40Speaker 03

  I try.

• 12:40Sean Hayes?

  Right?

• 12:41Will Arnett?

  Well, it's not about that. It's not about that so much.

• 12:44Sean Hayes?

  But I mean, you know, you have to, if you're gonna do it, you kind of have to balance it.

• 12:48Jason Bateman?

  Says.

• 12:49Sean Hayes?

  Jennifer Lopez.

• 12:50Jason Bateman?

  Says Dr. Ding Dong over there.

• 12:51Will Arnett?

  You look very healthy. You look very, very healthy.

• 12:54Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 12:55Jason Bateman?

  Jen, thank you for doing this. I'm so excited you're here. This is a long time coming for me. You've been on my list since we started.

• 13:02Speaker 03

  Oh, you're sweet.

• 13:03Will Arnett?

  Wow, this is exciting.

• 13:04Jason Bateman?

  It's true. And I know we kind of know each other and I love you too.

• 13:08Speaker 03

  Yes, we do.

• 13:08Will Arnett?

  Do we?

• 13:09Speaker 03

  We dance together.

• 13:09Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, we worked together many times over the years.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  Will and Grace.

• 13:12Jason Bateman?

  On the Will and Grace and something else too. I can't remember what it was.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  Did we?

• 13:16Jason Bateman?

  I think so.

• 13:17Speaker 03

  You know what I realized? I'm so bad that, you know, you get to a point where you've done so much with so many people. And people are like, we did that like the other day. Don't hate me. I was watching Monster in Law.

• 13:30Will Arnett?

  Oh, my God.

• 13:31Speaker 03

  And I, I forgot you were in.

• 13:34Jason Bateman?

  You forgot?

• 13:35Speaker 03

  I'm gonna do that podcast. No, no, because it was just so long ago. I mean, I don't want to say how many years ago it was, but it was so long ago.

• 13:44Jason Bateman?

  Wasn't that during your asset development, Willie? You did that?

• 13:46Will Arnett?

  It was, that was 21 years ago. It was the summer of 2005.

• 13:48Speaker 03

  21 years ago.

• 13:49Jason Bateman?

  Wow. You know, Jennifers, I'm admiring your beautiful printer in the background there. I then noticed that Sean, you've moved the award. Didn't you have an award behind you last week?

• 14:00Sean Hayes?

  Yes, because you made fun of me.

• 14:01Jason Bateman?

  And I made fun of you moved it.

• 14:02Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I did. But it's just right there, both of them.

• 14:04Jason Bateman?

  But what about how Jen keeps it real? She's got a fucking printer in the back of her frame.

• 14:11Will Arnett?

  That's a biz hub.

• 14:11Speaker 03

  I'm in a hotel.

• 14:13Jason Bateman?

  You are? Where?

• 14:14Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 14:15Sean Hayes?

  In New York?

• 14:15Speaker 03

  In New York. I was here for the upfront, so I'm just here.

• 14:19Jason Bateman?

  No, but you know, you know, people like stack their awards behind them when they do Zooms.

• 14:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, I do.

• 14:24Jason Bateman?

  No, you don't.

• 14:25Speaker 03

  But I, in my, in my office at home, I have like a wall of all these awards and things.

• 14:32Jason Bateman?

  All behind you for the zooms?

• 14:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're just, they're just there and then you sit at your desk and they're there.

• 14:37Jason Bateman?

  You've got so many, you can't point the camera in any direction. Exactly.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  Jason, where are you gonna put them? In your office there? Or, yeah. By the way, they're in the basement now.

• 14:45Jason Bateman?

  Will's looking behind him. He can't fit them in the whisper booth.

• 14:48Will Arnett?

  I can't. There's not one. There's not one.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  Why is it so dark in there?

• 14:51Jason Bateman?

  I know. So that his tan pops.

• 14:53Will Arnett?

  This is my booth, but hang on a second.

• 14:55Jason Bateman?

  He's getting a nice bounce off his teeth, though.

• 14:58Speaker 03

  The shorts.

• 14:59Jason Bateman?

  I know. The shorts. Like, at what age do you stop wearing shorts?

• 15:03Will Arnett?

  First of all. Look at these.

• 15:05Jason Bateman?

  Oh, it's a hockey glove.

• 15:07Will Arnett?

  These are special Toronto Maple Leaf, limited Toronto Maple Leaf.

• 15:11Jason Bateman?

  When has, when have the Toronto Maple Leafs ever had a green hockey glove?

• 15:14Will Arnett?

  It used to be the Toronto St. Pats when they first started. And then, look at this, Jason, do you remember this? I've somehow kept this after all these years.

• 15:20Jason Bateman?

  What is it, is that the wannamaker from the PGA Championship?

• 15:23Will Arnett?

  It's, it's called the VH1.

• 15:26Jason Bateman?

  Oh, boy.

• 15:26Will Arnett?

  Big, big in oh four.

• 15:28Jason Bateman?

  Oh, God, that's right.

• 15:29Will Arnett?

  And we got it, we went for arrested and somehow I've kept this stupid huge trophy.

• 15:33Jason Bateman?

  Wait, so we got one trophy and you got to keep it?

• 15:35Will Arnett?

  Yeah, obviously, everybody elected me because they were like, who's the most deserving?

• 15:39Jason Bateman?

  Is VH1 still going?

• 15:40Will Arnett?

  I don't, I don't know.

• 15:41Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I think so. Hey, Sean, welcome to the show.

• 15:45Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, question for the guest, please, Sean.

• 15:47Speaker 03

  No, not at all.

• 15:48Jason Bateman?

  Got to break in.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  Let's just chit chat.

• 15:50Sean Hayes?

  Well, it's, it, it, you know, but, but it's the thing about like, we worked together three times and Will and Grace. And the first, the first time, God, did we laugh a lot. I mean, I was, I was kicking you in, literally physically kicking you in the ass.

• 16:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:04Sean Hayes?

  Jumping in between your legs and, and like dancing like fools. It was ridiculously hilarious. And, and you were so game and I think you're so game for so many things and, you know, in, in researching.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, too many things sometimes.

• 16:17Sean Hayes?

  No, no, no, but, but, but, but, you know, in doing all this research before today, you realize, oh, I don't really, I don't, I don't, I've never done a deep dive on you. We always have chit chat and have a good time, you know.

• 16:28Will Arnett?

  But you never asked her anything important, you were just worried about yourself.

• 16:31Sean Hayes?

  That's right. I was always like, when's the next question about me? But, but, so before we get into it, I just want to say, I realized doing all this stuff, how rare your kind of drive is, your work ethic, the ambition, the discipline. You've been doing it such a high level for decades.

• 16:48Jason Bateman?

  I mean, have you seen her documentary? That documentary is just like, I think, I think I had a chance to run into you after I saw it and, and, and, and said how much I love it. It's so impressive. I mean, not only just well made, but the scope of it, I mean, your career is incredibly stacked.

• 17:05Sean Hayes?

  It's incredible.

• 17:06Jason Bateman?

  I mean, nonstop.

• 17:07Sean Hayes?

  And, and, and you, this is another thing we'll talk about later, but you, you, the thing you do for women in general, whether you do it intentionally or not, I'm sure some of it is intentional. You, you make them feel empowered, you show them that, that, that talent and beauty and sexuality. You can have all that at any age and you're fearless about all that. How, how aware of? Are you aware of how much permission that gives people? Or are you too busy working to even think about it?

• 17:33Speaker 03

  I'll say this, when I was starting out and I had just started doing like my clothing line. So I had been acting for a while and dancing and singing for a while. Had my first records out and things like that. So this is, fuck, I don't know, 20 years ago.

• 17:50Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 17:51Speaker 03

  And I was working with a few girls in my office who were like friends who I just hired. You know? And I remember saying, like, it was getting overwhelming. And I said, I just, this is so fucking much. Why am I doing this? This is too much. And she goes, Jennifer, if you can't. And I probably had just went through some breakup and fucking everything had blown up in my face again. You know what I mean? I was just like, I just don't know if I can go on. She goes, Jennifer, if you can't do it, none of us can do it. And when she said that to me, I never forgot it. And I thought to myself, oh, people look at me a certain way, especially girls, like women.

• 18:33Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, good inspiration, for sure.

• 18:35Speaker 03

  And they're like, and it gave me like a feeling of responsibility to do things right all the time.

• 18:42Sean Hayes?

  A responsibility you like or didn't want?

• 18:46Speaker 03

  I don't mind it because I am a hard worker and I do have discipline. Like I started running track when I was, you know, eight or nine years old and I was practicing every day. Like I always had kind of like an athlete's kind of drive and work ethic.

• 19:00Sean Hayes?

  That makes sense.

• 19:01Speaker 03

  So I, yeah, and I did track for a while, gymnastics, I played softball. Like I was very much an athlete before I fell in love with dancing. And once I fell in love with dancing, sports went out the window.

• 19:12Sean Hayes?

  Right, because it is a sport.

• 19:14Speaker 03

  It is a sport and it was, it was just an easy transition. But also because I grew up on musicals with my mom and all of that and I loved them so much. It was like I always wanted to sing and dance and act. But when it took its natural time, I really like left everything behind and just fell in love with that. But that really made me feel, that exchange stayed with me even all these years later. Because it just made me feel like. Like, don't fuck it up. Like, do the right things. People are watching you, for whatever reason. Maybe because I was, you know, Puerto Rican and from the Bronx and came from similar places where all these people, you know, people come from. You know, I wasn't like born in Hollywood and, you know,

• 19:59Speaker 03

  kind of that thing. And so, there was a real

• 20:02Will Arnett?

  Jason.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  A real like idea in my mind of like, you have to do things right. Don't, don't fuck it up, you know?

• 20:10Sean Hayes?

  And work for it.

• 20:11Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  Yeah. And, and do it. Do it. Like, do the thing. Like, go for the, go for it.

• 20:16Jason Bateman?

  Yeah. What was first for you? Was it an example of someone who was

• 20:24Jason Bateman?

  just an incredible inspiration as far as their, their accomplishments? Was that first? Or was it being inspired by seeing an incredible dancer or musician or actor? Or when you, when you were a little girl, what was the first thing that inspired you? Was it accomplishment? Or was it a specific talent?

• 20:45Speaker 03

  No, it was, it was, it was the arts. Like, I, from when I was very little, I remember I, you brought up Rita Moreno and you brought up West Side Story right before as you were trying to guess who I was.

• 20:55Will Arnett?

  That's all he does. That's all he does is pretty good.

• 20:58Speaker 03

  It really was Rita Moreno for me.

• 21:00Jason Bateman?

  Oh, really?

• 21:01Speaker 03

  Yes, yes.

• 21:02Jason Bateman?

  I did want her to be my mom. Watching Electric Company. I said to my mother once when I was a tiny little kid, I said, I want her to be my mom.

• 21:08Speaker 03

  Yes, who wouldn't? And she's so amazing. And the thing is, is like, I, I, my mom watched West Side Story in the theater when it first came out. And she made us watch it every single year. I don't even remember the first time I saw it. Three years old, four years old, five years old. But I do remember watching it on TV one Thanksgiving because it came on once a year and thinking, that's what I want to do. I want to sing and dance and act. I want to dance around. I want to sing. And my mother was kind of that way as well and very kind of vivacious, take over the room type of person. And I, and I wasn't like that. I was more like my dad. I was more quiet and kind of like to myself. But I, that part I had. Like, I wanted to sing and dance and shake my ass too. My mom was doing it.

• 21:53Jason Bateman?

  Just imagine you dancing and singing around like at the living room and stuff like that, like, like, like kids do. Cause like, that's when we have no fear and no, no, no sense of, of, you know.

• 22:04Will Arnett?

  And it's like, nobody's watching, you mean?

• 22:06Jason Bateman?

  Right, but then there's that moment we all hit when we're about, I don't know, 10, 11 or something, where you start to become aware of shame and embarrassment and what other people might be thinking. And there's that transition that it's almost a sad transition that you see kids go through where they become self-aware. But then, you know, you hope that they gather sort of coping skills to kind of have self-assuredness and, and to kind of push through that and have their, their confidence take over and to be able to push through that. Do you remember that moment where you stopped kind of dancing like no one was watching? And you were aware people were watching and, and were able to push through that?

• 22:43Speaker 03

  I think this is what makes me a little different. That I was never.

• 22:48Jason Bateman?

  That never happened?

• 22:49Speaker 03

  No, I was never afraid to make a fool of myself.

• 22:52Jason Bateman?

  That's great.

• 22:53Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  I was, I was always just like, it's fine. I fell down and maybe that was part of the athlete part too. You know what I mean? Like, it was just like, you're gonna, you know, make mistakes. You're gonna fall, you're gonna do the, like, I was ready. I'm like, get back, very scrappy.

• 23:06Jason Bateman?

  Part of learning, part of success.

• 23:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:10Jason Bateman?

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• 25:10Jason Bateman?

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• 25:16Sean Hayes?

  And now, back to the show.

• 25:19Will Arnett?

  I was thinking about when you started and really started to sort of break through, and I kind of want to get into what that was, because I'm not sure I really know what that thing was.

• 25:28Sean Hayes?

  I have questions about it.

• 25:30Will Arnett?

  Thank you, Sean. This is not your time. I'd like to reclaim my time. Jennifer, I wonder if you, if you know, like, the moment when you broke through, and you broke through on such a global level in such a way that is very, very rare, where everybody in the world knows who you are, and just bear with me, that you, that you have the moment where you, where that kind of dawns on you, the level of recognition and fame, and then you, as a person, the gap of you catching up to that and being okay with that on that kind of a level? Do you remember that time? Was it a struggle kind of between you and it?

• 26:08Speaker 03

  It was the worst. It was, honestly, it was the worst. It was, I had just done Selena. And the movie came out and I was still walking around, you know, Hollywood like going on auditions to like it was still that time.

• 26:22Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  But it had just come out and I was walking down the street and for the first time, somebody was like, hey, hey, and they come running towards me and I thought, motherfuckers gonna mug me, what the fuck is going on right now, like I got really nervous, you know, and I was just, you know, like any woman in the world, you know, we're threatened by other so many things, like we're so scared all the time in a weird way.

• 26:49Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  And I was just walking to the store from my apartment in LA and it was just so jarring to me. And then I realized they were like, I saw you, I saw you in whatever and I was like, oh.

• 27:05Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 27:05Speaker 03

  I was like, I don't, but, but my thing was like, I don't know you.

• 27:08Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  Like, I don't know you, like, what are you doing, like, back up, don't touch me. I was so scared. And I remember it dawning on me, I was like, oh, you're not anonymous anymore.

• 27:22Will Arnett?

  Right.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  Your anonymity is gone.

• 27:24Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 27:24Speaker 03

  And I don't, and I, and I think in my mind, I thought, you can't get that back. That's something that's lost forever. And I remember that's when I started having panic attacks and.

• 27:33Will Arnett?

  Oh, did you?

• 27:34Speaker 03

  I had, oh, it was terrible time for me.

• 27:36Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, can you talk about that when you were filming Enough, right?

• 27:40Speaker 03

  No, that was another time. That was when I overworked myself.

• 27:43Sean Hayes?

  That, but that story.

• 27:44Speaker 03

  When I didn't realize my limits.

• 27:47Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, but that, I read about that in preparation for this and that's fascinating to me because I love medical stories. Where you, can you say what happened and why?

• 27:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, um, so that was the kind of getting used to like fame and realizing your life had changed in a way that you couldn't control anymore.

• 28:04Will Arnett?

  Or go back.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  You can't go back.

• 28:06Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 28:06Speaker 03

  They're always gonna know, somebody will always have seen Selena, somebody will always, and, and for whatever reason, that really freaked me out and, and that took a minute. But what you're talking about is when I was doing Enough, I think I had done like four movies in a row. And I had recorded my second album or something like that. So the J Lo album, which was really big.

• 28:31Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 28:31Speaker 03

  And.

• 28:32Sean Hayes?

  Huge.

• 28:33Speaker 03

  And what was like the J Lo album.

• 28:35Sean Hayes?

  Right.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  And I was working filming every day, as you guys know what that is, you know, all the hours. And then I would go into the studio at night. And then on the weekends, I like had junkets or video shoots or whatever. And I remember not clocking that I had worked like ninety eight days in a row without taking a day off.

• 28:55Sean Hayes?

  Right.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  You know, because we went back and counted it because we're like, what happened? And one day I'm sitting in the, on the set of Enough, it's actually kind of the, thinking about it. And I'm walking to the set every single time. And every time I walk to the set, I start getting a little, like a little pitter patter in my heart. Like it's like rising. And I go and, and finally, it got to the point, I was like, I really feel nervous. And I had the little girl in Enough. And I was like, I'm sorry, sweetie, I feel a little weird today. I said, a little tired or something. And she was like, it's okay, you're gonna be all right. You know, she's like going like this to my face. But I wasn't all right.

• 29:35Speaker 03

  And I went back to the trailer and I sat down and all of a sudden, like, I just couldn't see. Like I was almost like, I, I couldn't see clearly, like something just went over my eyes. And I couldn't move. And one of my girlfriends, who was my friend since the second grade, was my assistant. And she was like, so she has no like, she doesn't know what, she didn't really know what she was doing too much. But we, we loved thugging it out together and figuring it out and being together. And I said to her, um, Arlene, I can't move. I can't see. She goes, stop it, Jennifer, you're scaring me. And I go, no, I really can't move.

• 30:17Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  I said, no, I can't move, you should get somebody. And she's like, stop, stop. I said, get B O B, my security guard. And she got me and I was like, I can't move and I can't see. And I, like, I couldn't move. I was just paralyzed.

• 30:31Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:32Speaker 03

  And he picked me up and put me in the car. We went to the hospital. And it was crazy. And I said to the doctor, I said, am I going crazy? And he said, "No, you're not crazy."

• 30:46Sean Hayes?

  It's exhaustion.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's like, "You're, you shut down."

• 30:48Will Arnett?

  I remember, I remember, speaking of Monster L, I remember we were shooting a couple of days, like downtown somewhere, and the level of attention. I remember you having to drive to set, and they had to put blinders on the thing for you to drive into, and there were photographers on the roofs of the building across the street.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:09Will Arnett?

  And I remember, and then, and they had, they had the base camp set up in this parking lot downtown, and I remember these dudes randomly putting cameras under the fence and just shooting like this, hoping to get somebody, and I thought, "Oh, my God."

• 31:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:23Will Arnett?

  That is so, and by the way, there are a lot of people go like, "Oh, well, that, you know, that's the price you pay for fame," and all that kind of bullshit, and you're like, "Oh, yeah? That's pretty rough, man." Like, you don't have a second.

• 31:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, you, it can be really tricky, and you learn to kind of like, live a certain way. Like, I don't go out all that much, you know, and I, I,

• 31:44Will Arnett?

  To this day?

• 31:44Speaker 03

  Know where I can go, yeah, to this day.

• 31:46Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 31:47Speaker 03

  And I have my, like, very small group of friends, and they come over, or we do things, or we go on trips, but even when we go on trips, it's very curated, and you have to learn, because it's just, it's part of it.

• 31:59Will Arnett?

  Jason calls photographers, he lets them know they have his schedule.

• 32:02Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 32:02Will Arnett?

  They have access to his iCal.

• 32:04Jason Bateman?

  They never show, and they never show. What about, now that sort of surgical masks are so sort of like, accepted in, in public and so commonplace now, do you, do you ever enjoy that level of, you know, sort of finding anonymity?

• 32:20Speaker 03

  No, I feel like people always know it's me, and I feel stupid. Like, if I put on a hat, like, too, like, it's like, "Is that J-Lo?" Yeah. Yeah, she has her hat on, you know what I mean? It's like stupid, I put a mask on. They'll even recognize my voice sometimes, if I'm just talking in a store. Like, I'll see people creep around the aisle, like, they heard me talking, and I'm like, "Hi."

• 32:41Will Arnett?

  Did your friends call you J-Lo when you were a kid growing up?

• 32:45Speaker 03

  No.

• 32:45Will Arnett?

  No.

• 32:45Speaker 03

  No, not at all, not at all. That was something that I always credit Heavy D. I don't know if you guys remember?

• 32:52Jason Bateman?

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:52Will Arnett?

  Sure, of course.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  He was a rapper, back in the day.

• 32:55Will Arnett?

  Back in the day.

• 32:56Speaker 03

  And we all, all the Sony artists, there was a place called The Hit Factory here in New York.

• 33:01Will Arnett?

  Yep.

• 33:01Speaker 03

  And all of us recorded there. A lot of people recorded there. It was a big studio. And we'd always, people would always come in and out, you know, to other people's studios. And I met Heavy at that time. And he was, he just always used to call me Jenny Lo. He's like, J-Lo, J-Lo, Jenny Lo. And I was like, I think I'm gonna call my next album J-Lo.

• 33:23Will Arnett?

  I love that.

• 33:24Sean Hayes?

  That's so cool.

• 33:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, and that's kinda how it happened. It was really very simple. It just stuck.

• 33:29Jason Bateman?

  When did Jenny from the Block come?

• 33:31Will Arnett?

  Well, I was gonna get to Jenny from the Block, yeah.

• 33:33Speaker 03

  It was the next album. So that, J-Lo was my second album. My first album was On the Six. And my third album was, um, This Is Me Then. And that had Jenny from the Block on it.

• 33:45Will Arnett?

  Do you, you spawned, how many people in the world probably refer to their friends Jennifer as Jenny from the Block? Like, we have a friend-

• 33:51Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 33:52Will Arnett?

  Right?

• 33:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, you, you do come across it. But also, they all do their names. Oh, my, they people call me Ado.

• 33:59Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, right, right, right.

• 34:00Speaker 03

  Like, they put their names together and stuff like that. Yeah.

• 34:03Sean Hayes?

  Jason would be J-Bah.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, you'd be J-B, J-Bah.

• 34:07Jason Bateman?

  And you're Seha.

• 34:08Sean Hayes?

  Some Seha.

• 34:09Jason Bateman?

  Seha.

• 34:10Sean Hayes?

  Seha.

• 34:12Jason Bateman?

  It doesn't work.

• 34:13Sean Hayes?

  Doesn't work, doesn't work. It's gonna roll off the tongue. So, but, but getting back to the, the, your, when you were first starting, because I think it's fascinating that you went from the timeframe of In Living Color, which was, you know, its own story, which we could probably talk about forever, but In Living Color to Money Train, to Selena, you, you, you, at that time, you really had to prove yourself as an actress. And you probably worked hard to do that, right? What, what did that period feel like when you look back on it, where you're like, wait, how do I trans- how do I get people to take me seriously from dancing on In Living Color to, to being an actress?

• 34:51Speaker 03

  Well, it's funny. My very first movie was a movie called My Family, Mi Familia, which Greg Nava did.

• 34:56Sean Hayes?

  Oh, right.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  And it had Edward James Olmos in it. That was the very first time I worked with him. And I played the matri- the young matriarch in the movie. And right from that moment, I think people seeing that little piece of tape-

• 35:12Speaker 03

  That really helped make the transition because it was a great little role. And I had to like cross the river from Mexico into the thing and I'm like swimming and I'm like I'm actiony and I'm crying with the baby and I'm like it was like a great little juicy. It was a small role, but it was juicy. And with that piece of tape, people were like, oh, she can act. She's an actress. And I was and I had worked on it before I did my first movie. I studied it acting all through. And Living Color really brought me out to Los Angeles and that's when I started like taking classes all the time and reading all the books and doing all the things.

• 35:47Will Arnett?

  I love that. You did and then you did, oh god, I remember this movie holds up. I love it so much. You're so great in Out of Sight.

• 35:54Speaker 03

  Oh, thank you.

• 35:55Will Arnett?

  Oh, my gosh. You were so, that movie is so good.

• 35:58Speaker 03

  So good. Aaron Sisko.

• 36:00Will Arnett?

  Oh, you're so good in that. It's such a great movie, you know. Really is. You really dragged Clooney along, you know, because, no, you did. You launched, you launched something there. You made Clooney look good and I don't care if he hears this, you made him look good. And that Soderbergh character. And Soderbergh too, yeah, yeah, Steven too. You really helped those guys.

• 36:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I really helped him out.

• 36:19Will Arnett?

  No, but talk about that movie if you will, just a little bit, because that was like a real, that movie like really went like, she knows what she's doing. Yeah. I mean, you already were, but.

• 36:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was excited. Listen, I got really lucky in the beginning of my career to work with like some really great directors, Steven Soderbergh, Oliver Stone, Francis Ford Coppola, like I was like, I worked with Robin Williams, like there was, it was a really beautiful, beautiful beginning to an acting career for me, for sure. Um, yeah, and working on Out of Sight, it was funny, the thing I remember the most about Out of Sight, um, was one of the things is Steve's on, because we had like one of the most epic nights ever singing musical theater. I think I was singing to him and telling him I was gonna be a singer and he was like, yeah, right. I was like, I am, I am, I'm working on my album right now, like I was so young and kind

• 37:14Speaker 03

  of like goofy and whatever. And he, but I also remember like the auditioning process for that. And going, I remember the last, like I read for Steven and he was like, I think I like, he's talking to George, like I like this girl Jennifer Lopez to play this role and he was like, okay, and they had me go do like a chemistry read and I had to drive to. George's house. And I remember getting there and there was a pig in the front yard. I was like, this is some real Hollywood shit. This is some weird stuff.

• 37:49Will Arnett?

  And Richard Kind collecting the mail.

• 37:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, he had his pig and we were there and we, you know, we read like on the couch together. Literal casting couch. And we were just had this chemistry that really worked. And Stephen just loved it and I got the role and I was so happy because it was a really great role as well.

• 38:15Jason Bateman?

  Did you get it there in the room?

• 38:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think, yeah, by the time I got home, they had called my agent and said that, you know, they wanted me. Oh, that's so good.

• 38:24Jason Bateman?

  How do you with, with, with so much ability across, you know, mediums, how and, and, and anything that you basically declare you're going to do, it's going to find financing and it's going to find an audience. How do you decide what to do? If, if, if, if anything is a viable direction, like, I mean, you could, you could start a musical tomorrow or you could do another album or you could, you could finance, you could start a movie. You could, you could act in that movie, direct that movie.

• 38:55Will Arnett?

  You could open a bank.

• 38:58Jason Bateman?

  You could start, yeah, you could start like a cupcake store down the street.

• 39:02Speaker 03

  I do have, I do have cookie dough that I would think I call J dough.

• 39:06Sean Hayes?

  Oh, for real?

• 39:07Speaker 03

  That is the best chocolate cookies in the world. And one day I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to make this. I'm going to share it with the world because.

• 39:14Will Arnett?

  But you don't sell, you don't sell it yet?

• 39:16Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 39:17Jason Bateman?

  That's a mistake.

• 39:18Will Arnett?

  This is, this is, we can announce it today.

• 39:20Jason Bateman?

  Leave the money on the table.

• 39:21Sean Hayes?

  It's gonna be J dough.

• 39:22Will Arnett?

  I want it. We love chocolate chip cookies.

• 39:24Jason Bateman?

  Truly, so how do you decide where to point your, your, your energy and, and your?

• 39:30Speaker 03

  You know, it's funny, you ask that question because I don't think, I think one of the things about my career and some, you know, there's in any long career, there's ups and downs. You, you swing for the fences and you, you know, fail. And then there's times when it's just like, you know, it just, you just hit it out of the park. And right now.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  I think I just didn't ever realize that I had that kind of power. I always felt, again, like the scrappy one, kinda trying to make it.

• 39:59Jason Bateman?

  Erring on the side of humility and not assuming something till you're sure. I think that's a healthy place to be.

• 40:05Speaker 03

  And it did serve me in certain ways, but in other ways, I always felt like whatever I got was good enough. Instead of going, wait a minute, is this the right thing to do right now? Or is that the right? I was just kinda like, work, work, work, work, work, work. I'm working, I'm working, I'm working. And I think it wasn't just now, as I'm, my kids are about to leave to college in about a few months.

• 40:28Jason Bateman?

  They're both 18.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  Don't make me cry, okay?

• 40:30Jason Bateman?

  Wow, I'm with you.

• 40:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, and they're twins, so they're both leaving at the same time. It's just gonna be me by myself. And I'm looking at like, what I really wanna do. And for the first time in my life, I've really taken more control of exactly what you're saying. Like, what do you really wanna do? Like, do you wanna direct? Do you wanna do musicals? What have you not done that really feels fulfilling to you? Because I actually have realized that I do have that. That I have earned that over these years. And I should be very, I wanna be very intentional about what I do over these next four or five years.

• 41:12Jason Bateman?

  You can take agency over your own life.

• 41:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, and also like, give myself a pat on the back, which I never do. I never do, and I never did.

• 41:20Jason Bateman?

  You should.

• 41:21Speaker 03

  Where I go, you know what? You created this. That little girl with like, I always say this, with like holes in her shoes in the Bronx. You know what I mean? And I wear my sneakers down, where this part of my foot was out all the time. I'm sure that's gonna be a meme.

• 41:35Jason Bateman?

  If I asked you right now, what do you really love and value most in your life? I'm sure that you would say your kids. But if I narrowed that to what your career represents for you, what, it's sort of in a pursuit of like, trying to find an answer for what you would want to do next, or your next chapter would be. What is it that you enjoy the most that your career has provided you? Is it respect? Is it?

• 42:03Speaker 03

  Endless possibility.

• 42:05Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  I think it's that I have opened up an avenue for myself, where there's endless possibility. And I can really. Create a new dream right now for myself.

• 42:16Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 42:17Speaker 03

  And, and, and I just moved into a new house. Like, everything in my life has changed over the past couple of years. I moved into a new house.

• 42:24Sean Hayes?

  What happened? I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

• 42:28Speaker 03

  Oh, that's for another time.

• 42:30Sean Hayes?

  It's a different podcast.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  That's a different.

• 42:33Sean Hayes?

  Right, right.

• 42:33Will Arnett?

  Guys, keep rolling, guys, keep rolling, keep rolling.

• 42:37Speaker 03

  You come over, we have a glass of wine, and you, you come to the new house, and it's amazing.

• 42:43Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:43Speaker 03

  And I, like, built my little corner of the world dream house. I got my kids some horses, we have stables.

• 42:49Sean Hayes?

  Oh, that's great.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  Like, I was like, please come home, please come back home to your horses.

• 42:55Speaker 03

  There's horses here. Um, and just really thinking about, like, with all this change, it's, it's actually been a very emotional time for me, um, where, yes, I'm crying because they're leaving, but I'm also, like, staring down, like, what is my life now? The past 20 years, it's been one thing. The past five years has been a tumult, you know? And then the last two years has been kind of the healing process from that tumult, where I really got to know myself. And I, the person I am today is so different than the person I was even two years ago. It's, it's crazy.

• 43:35Speaker 03

  And now I can really look at my life, appreciate it for what it is, and what I've created for myself, and be really happy. And both my kids, like, got into all their colleges, and they both got scholarships, and they're going where they wanna go. And it's just, I was like, you did that shit all by yourself.

• 43:54Sean Hayes?

  That's great.

• 43:55Speaker 03

  Like, you had very little help, you know?

• 43:58Sean Hayes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:00Sean Hayes?

  We'll be right back.

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• 44:44Speaker 05

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• 44:50Jason Bateman?

  And back to the show.

• 44:53Will Arnett?

  I was just gonna say, I think it's awesome that you, the way you talk about it and you seem so sort of clear headed and calm, knowing, we sort of joke about it, about how much people perceive or think that they know about your life and what you've gone through and all that kind of stuff. And that's, you have to kind of put that in a weird place. Because you, right, that people have this sort of thing that they think and then you, but you have to actually go through it. And like you said, when you started, like, you're just a human being and people forget that. You know what I mean? Like they, it's so, it's so crazy to me because we don't really understand other people's experiences unless we walk in their shoes.

• 45:31Jason Bateman?

  Right, and there's also, I think, I think, I don't mean to cut you off, Willie, but I do think, you know, we're all, we're all aware of, and some of us are friends with, some people that have like this enormous level of celebrity and exposure that actually enables the ability for, enables them to stay exactly who that is for kind of as long as they want. In other words, there's this, there's this real permissive culture around celebrity. And you don't kind of have to be the best part of you and you don't have to grow. Like, you know, what you just said, Jennifer, that, you know, the, the past two years has been about the healing and that you're, you're, you're, you're so different now than you were even two years ago, five years ago.

• 46:13Jason Bateman?

  Do you, do you recognize that that's, that that can be a real accomplishment for somebody in your position? Like, I think that's a real great attaboy that you've clearly put in time and work and self-reflection. And you could have just kind of just kept eating the junk food of, of the permissive culture around you and just kind of lean back, but you're, it sounds like you're leaning into, who am I going to be for this next chapter? And what have I learned, et cetera, et cetera?

• 46:41Speaker 03

  100% I, I. Again, there's been different times where I felt like, whether people outside knew it or not, where I feel like my life blew up in my own face. And it was because of the choices I made, but also because of the fact that I had things that needed to change. About myself that I didn't understand or recognize that was attracting certain things and attracting a certain type of, you know, experience into my life. And I, I really needed, I fight, honestly, it's that thing where, and you can go either way, you're right, it is a choice. So I want to give myself that credit too, but

• 47:24Speaker 03

  there comes a point where it's all so puzzling and wrong, where you have to sit there. And after my last divorce, I just sat there and I was like, I canceled my Torah and I sat there and I was just like, you need to fucking figure yourself out. What is going on with you? Forget about everybody else. There's nobody to blame here except yourself in a, in a certain way. Not that people don't behave in a way that's not great, but what are you doing? What do you have going on? And, and that was, that was a turning point for me. And that was a couple of years ago now.

• 48:02Will Arnett?

  I, I had the same thing about two, three years ago. I will, I've, maybe I've told you guys this in, in private before, but I had a moment before I got into real therapy a couple of years ago, where one day I was making coffee in the morning and I swear to God, and I went, I remember distinctly what was happening.

• 48:19Jason Bateman?

  Oat milk.

• 48:19Will Arnett?

  Not the date.

• 48:20Jason Bateman?

  Oh, oat milk.

• 48:20Will Arnett?

  Oat milk. And I remember, and I, and I went, I said out loud to myself, it's you. And I had this real, I was like, oh my God, I need to do some work. I go, it's me.

• 48:31Speaker 03

  But, but by the way, everybody needs to do that at some point in your life.

• 48:36Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, and by the way, everybody goes through this. I mean, it's all sort of relative.

• 48:39Speaker 03

  It's part of the hu, being human, right? Like part of being human is.

• 48:43Jason Bateman?

  We all have things that blow up.

• 48:44Speaker 03

  We get these parents, they do the best they can, or they do as much as they can. They form certain parts about ourselves. And then our journey is kind of the undoing and the healing of those things, of the patterns that that created.

• 49:00Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 49:00Speaker 03

  And so in doing and looking at those patterns, I was able to kind of like go back to that little girl and

• 49:09Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 49:09Speaker 03

  really look at her and go,

• 49:11Will Arnett?

  That's dope.

• 49:11Speaker 03

  That little seven-year-old girl, like I said, with the ripped nightgown, like I can see her right now with it, like my hair was like up to here and it was about the same color and you know what I mean?

• 49:19Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 49:20Speaker 03

  Thirty feet, walking around barefoot all the fucking time.

• 49:22Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 49:23Speaker 03

  And I was like,

• 49:23Will Arnett?

  You're barefoot now.

• 49:24Speaker 03

  You, you, yeah.

• 49:26Jason Bateman?

  She's back.

• 49:29Speaker 03

  Still, nothing's changed.

• 49:30Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 49:30Speaker 03

  Um, still Jenny from the block. And, and just kind of like going, you did this.

• 49:38Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 49:38Speaker 03

  You, you did all this.

• 49:40Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 49:40Speaker 03

  Give yourself a little fucking something, like a little love.

• 49:44Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 49:44Speaker 03

  Stop looking for love in other things.

• 49:46Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 49:46Speaker 03

  And give it to yourself.

• 49:48Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, there's so much to love in you. Yeah, yeah.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, and you don't, and you don't see it because you're, you're in this business and everybody's telling you you're bad at this and you're bad at that and they're scrutinizing, criticizing your personal, your professional life and you're not doing this enough or you didn't choose that right movie or that song didn't do as good as the last one. And you're like, and it, it, it plays on you and it plays on those places that were reinforced when you were younger of like, whatever it is, the, the impressions that were made on you because of the way you were loved or cared for in different ways. And it's just, it's all so intertwined. And I find it very interesting and I love it because I really do believe people are capable of change. Because I've, I've experienced it.

• 50:36Will Arnett?

  Same.

• 50:36Jason Bateman?

  And it is, it is, and a lot of that fuel for change comes from that self-love. But that self-love is, is often so hard for all of us to kind of recognize and utilize because it's hard to see because we're living with ourselves every day. You know, you kind of get used to some of the things that you really should be taking a second to, um, to be pleased with about yourself. Um, it's like you can't, you can't see your own hair grow, right? Like you see, you see, you see it every day.

• 51:04Speaker 03

  I also think people don't understand what it is to love yourself. Like to understand to, whatever you want. And I think having kids for me changed a lot of that because I realized whatever I want to give them, Like, why wouldn't I give that to myself?

• 51:16Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 51:17Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 51:17Will Arnett?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:18Speaker 03

  Why don't I appreciate those things? Why don't I, you know? If you want respect from people, you have to respect yourself. Those are actions, right? Like, those are real tangible things. And being, my sister said to me once, Linda, who I think is so smart, and she was like, when are you gonna be your own keeper? You keep everybody else. You take care of mom, you take care of me, you take care of the kids, you take care of everybody who works for you. You take care, when are you gonna be your own keeper? And I was just like, yeah, and these are all little pieces. I feel like the journey is like pieces, pieces, little puzzle pieces that you fit in little by little as you like sit there with the oat milk and go, it's me.

• 51:59Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 51:59Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  This fucking thing that just happened, me.

• 52:02Jason Bateman?

  Right, right.

• 52:03Will Arnett?

  And, and you know, you mentioned the kids, I, I, I sort of realized also that like that act of, the, the way that we love our kids, for me anyway, my, my experience is, that act of being loving to them allows, the reason it feels so good is because you're generating that and then you get it back. And it's when you close off and you don't act in a loving way pushing, I find the more I push out, the more it comes back. And so like with my kids, that, that's why it feels so good. Because you're creating that as opposed to kind of rolling up the window on it. Do you know what I mean?

• 52:34Speaker 03

  Absolutely. No, I, I, I, I agree. And, and the kids are a great learner, but relationships are great, you know, kind of learning grounds as well, where you really get to face yourself. If you get lucky enough to be with somebody who actually really cares and loves about you in the right way, there, there's a lot you can learn from each other, even if things don't work out. You know what I mean? But Jason, I'm sorry I cut you off. I was just like, had to get that thought out.

• 53:00Jason Bateman?

  No, no, I, I was kind of done. I was just saying it's, it's, it's a dumb metaphor or analogy, not being able to recognize your own hair growing, because we see ourselves in the mirror every single day. But if you don't see somebody for a few weeks, you go, oh, your, your hair's gotten long.

• 53:14Will Arnett?

  Your hair's.

• 53:14Speaker 03

  You have a beard.

• 53:15Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, right. You can't really see the things inside of you that you probably should be.

• 53:21Will Arnett?

  You've got the greatest, you've got the greatest hair of all time.

• 53:23Jason Bateman?

  I was trying to back into a compliment.

• 53:24Will Arnett?

  I know. Jason's got the greatest hair.

• 53:27Speaker 03

  You really do.

• 53:28Will Arnett?

  He's got the greatest. It's unbelievable.

• 53:30Jason Bateman?

  But I mean.

• 53:31Will Arnett?

  You know what, Jennifer, you want to know something? He hasn't put a comb or a brush in it since he was 11. That's a new story.

• 53:36Speaker 03

  Stop.

• 53:36Jason Bateman?

  It's true.

• 53:37Speaker 03

  Stop.

• 53:37Sean Hayes?

  And he doesn't color it.

• 53:39Will Arnett?

  He doesn't color it.

• 53:40Jason Bateman?

  Also true.

• 53:40Will Arnett?

  He's so handsome.

• 53:42Jason Bateman?

  Guys.

• 53:42Sean Hayes?

  You know, I mentioned it before, Jen, it's like, you know, the, well, maybe I didn't mention, I think I mentioned in the intro, where you left home when you were really young and you slept in a dance studio or something.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  I did.

• 53:55Sean Hayes?

  As a girl.

• 53:56Speaker 03

  I have done the craziest things that nobody knows.

• 53:58Sean Hayes?

  But don't you look back at that with everything we're talking about now? And giving yourself and loving yourself, looking at that and going, wow, I was sleeping on the floor of a studio on my own, not even living at home.

• 54:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:12Sean Hayes?

  And look what I've done. Like, it's kind of, it's just mind blowing.

• 54:16Speaker 03

  It's crazy because my mom and dad, like, I was about to start college, or I was, I had just done a semester of college. And I was just like, I had a dream that I'm gonna be in show business. And they were like, we lived in the Bronx. We, you know, they were like, this crazy bitch. And I was just like, no, Dad. And my mom was like, you're not dropping out of college. You are crazy. You know how much we do to you can go to college and da, da, da. And my dad was like, did you have a dream? Really? I said, Daddy, I did. I really did. Da, da, da. Anyway, the next few months was tumultuous and I wound up leaving the house. And I kept, I kept skipping, I stopped going to class at college. And I was going to the dance studio and literally taking class all day.

• 55:02Speaker 03

  I just so fallen in love with it. I was, yeah, I wanted to be a lawyer. I worked in a law office for a few years during high school. And I was like, really good with numbers and taxes and things like that.

• 55:13Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  I don't know, I just could feel, I was just good at it and they loved me. And I, and I just was on this track to be a lawyer. And I was gonna apply to law school, whatever, I don't know. Anyway.

• 55:29Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I mean, it's wild to know that, yeah.

• 55:31Speaker 03

  Yeah. It didn't happen and I decided to like go sleep on the dance floor. I needed somewhere to go and me and my mom had a big falling out. And I called the dance teacher and I said, you know, can I come stay? I'll sleep on the couch at the dance studio. And he said, yeah.

• 55:47Sean Hayes?

  It's crazy.

• 55:49Speaker 03

  He liked me, but yeah.

• 55:52Jason Bateman?

  Do you still have a talent for numbers and bookkeeping and that types of things? Like, are you involved with your, or do you just kind of just let, you just?

• 56:00Speaker 03

  No, I'm smart about it, but I, and I've always been very attuned with my biz managers, like not to let my money get away from me.

• 56:08Jason Bateman?

  But you're not like playing the markets and like, you know, looking on the stock pages and like.

• 56:12Speaker 03

  I do some investing.

• 56:14Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 56:16Jason Bateman?

  Cause like some people I know, they really like, they handicap companies kind of like horses and they really follow us if they really get interested in that.

• 56:22Speaker 03

  No, I don't, I don't, but I, and I, I left that behind and probably can, you know, do multiplication. Now my kid's math is too hard for me when I just try to help them, but.

• 56:32Jason Bateman?

  You know what I just read the other day?

• 56:34Will Arnett?

  This should be good.

• 56:35Sean Hayes?

  They give a tree?

• 56:38Will Arnett?

  A page of a book?

• 56:39Jason Bateman?

  They don't teach cursive anymore in school.

• 56:42Speaker 03

  No.

• 56:42Jason Bateman?

  And haven't done for like the last few years.

• 56:44Sean Hayes?

  I know, why is that?

• 56:46Jason Bateman?

  Well, I guess because typing is such a big part of.

• 56:48Sean Hayes?

  I know, but like, but some point.

• 56:49Speaker 03

  We don't write anymore.

• 56:50Sean Hayes?

  But you gotta sign your name and stuff.

• 56:52Jason Bateman?

  Exactly, like what is a signature?

• 56:54Speaker 03

  They teach them their name in kindergarten, I think, and that's it.

• 56:56Sean Hayes?

  And that's it. We're done. Next chapter.

• 56:58Will Arnett?

  How's everybody's handwriting? Self-assessment on your handwriting?

• 57:00Jason Bateman?

  Oh, it's terrible because you don't get to practice it, but I, but I know how.

• 57:04Will Arnett?

  Jason Bad, Sean.

• 57:05Sean Hayes?

  My brain works faster than my hands, so I can't, you know.

• 57:08Speaker 03

  I also, when I have to write a birthday card, I'm like, this is horrendous. Wait a minute. Like I have to cross shit out. It's crazy.

• 57:16Will Arnett?

  Do you do all caps? Do you do all caps?

• 57:18Jason Bateman?

  I do like a hybrid. It's terrible.

• 57:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, me too. It's a hybrid.

• 57:22Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I'll start every sentence in cursive and then end up going, just for legibility alone. I want people to understand what the hell I'm writing.

• 57:30Speaker 03

  It's so true.

• 57:31Sean Hayes?

  Okay, so this is like, I'm gonna just, because I, we're almost at, out of time with you.

• 57:35Will Arnett?

  Speed round, speed round, speed round.

• 57:36Sean Hayes?

  So we're gonna do like a little tiny something speed round. If, if you.

• 57:39Jason Bateman?

  This is a section Sean's been trying to introduce to the podcast the last couple of weeks.

• 57:43Sean Hayes?

  Your music career, which is just massive and I've been to, I know every other song that you've ever recorded and. I just think it's incredible.

• 57:51Speaker 03

  Thank you. What you've accomplished. You know, it's pretty insane. I just had a number one dance record.

• 57:56Sean Hayes?

  Really?

• 57:57Speaker 03

  Like a few weeks ago. Yes. Yeah, I had a new record out called Save Me Tonight. And I went and I performed it at Coachella. And after that, like, went to number one.

• 58:08Sean Hayes?

  That's amazing.

• 58:09Speaker 03

  It's amazing.

• 58:10Sean Hayes?

  It is amazing.

• 58:11Jason Bateman?

  Had you done Coachella before?

• 58:12Speaker 03

  Never. It was my first time at Coachella.

• 58:15Jason Bateman?

  Was it, was it, was it a freaky, big experience? Or was it?

• 58:19Speaker 03

  It's massive. It's big. And it's, I'd never been, I didn't know what it was like or whatever. But you have all these people. And I, and I hadn't done a dance record in a long time. And David Guetta had this record. And I, I was, I was going out on tour last summer to do like a little limited tour overseas. And I was like, I need some new songs. Like, I'm tired of performing the same old songs. So I did like five.

• 58:44Sean Hayes?

  By the way, we're not tired of the song.

• 58:45Speaker 03

  Thank you. No, I, I still do them. I still do them. But I did like five new records, three or like four, yeah, four or five new records. And I put them in the show just for that. And this one kind of popped off. And so we released it a couple of months ago or something.

• 59:03Jason Bateman?

  And what about videos? Do people still make videos, right?

• 59:06Speaker 03

  They do, they do, but it's not the same. Yeah, I don't really even feel like I need to sometimes.

• 59:13Will Arnett?

  Do you guys, do you have to pay for them?

• 59:15Speaker 03

  I do, I do. Yeah, because it's, it's different. Like, when I started, they'd spend millions of dollars on videos, like a million dollars, two million dollars, were big budget videos. You know, Michael Jackson, Janet used to do like seven million dollar videos, you know? But now, because of streaming and how the record business has changed since I started, it's like a whole different world. You have to shoot them on your iPhone yourself, a hundred thousand bucks. They, sometimes they give you 75. It's, it's really a, a different thing.

• 59:42Jason Bateman?

  And that's to promote the album that you have a.

• 59:45Will Arnett?

  Probably through social media, too.

• 59:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:47Jason Bateman?

  Right. And it's, and it's not even your album. It's, it's the label's album. And your, the way the music industry runs nowadays, correct me, most of the income for the artist comes from touring as opposed to album sales? Is that right?

• 1:00:00Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 1:00:01Sean Hayes?

  Yeah. Now, speaking of touring, you've, you've done, you toured forever. You did, obviously, massive, massive shows your whole life. You know, I love horrible theater stories. You might not know this, but give me, give me something that happened on a tour that just went horribly wrong and that's funny.

• 1:00:16Speaker 03

  Well, I don't know if you saw this, this.

• 1:00:19Sean Hayes?

  Oh, yes, I know what you're gonna say. I know what you're gonna say.

• 1:00:21Speaker 03

  The thing on my neck. Did you see it?

• 1:00:23Sean Hayes?

  No, I saw. No, I thought you were gonna say when you fell.

• 1:00:25Speaker 03

  No, that, that happened, but that wasn't on tour. That was on television.

• 1:00:29Sean Hayes?

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  And it ran on CNN for the next three days while my fucking coccyx was fucking on fire.

• 1:00:36Sean Hayes?

  Right.

• 1:00:36Speaker 03

  And it was just like, it was awful. But no, I was gonna say this summer on tour, I was, I was.

• 1:00:43Sean Hayes?

  I just wrote three jokes. Sorry. I'm not, I'm not doing any of them.

• 1:00:47Jason Bateman?

  Coccyx on fire and you need to take pills for it and all this stuff. Never mind.

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  Yes. Um, this summer when I was on tour, I, I don't remember where, what, where I was. Oh, God, what, which actual date it was, but I was there and I was, I might have been in Spain because I was singing a Spanish song and it was like the slow moment in the show, you know? Usually I'm dancing around and doing the choreography and like a fucking bikini and a G-string and right?

• 1:01:16Sean Hayes?

  All right.

• 1:01:17Speaker 03

  Whipping my hair around and it's a good time. And, um. Yeah. And, um, so I'm standing there, fully dressed, and I have this thing on, it's like outfit on. And I'm singing and it's really quiet, just a spotlight on me. And I don't know, like, all during the show, I was seeing like little bugs and things around, but I, you know, we're outside.

• 1:01:40Sean Hayes?

  Oh, this I did see this.

• 1:01:42Speaker 03

  They're attracted to the light.

• 1:01:44Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:44Speaker 03

  And so everything is dark except for me. And I'm singing and as I'm singing, the audience starts screaming. And usually they do react in this moment because I stop and it's a slow song and they, they usually clap and whatever before I do the little last line. I do like a dramatic pause.

• 1:02:03Sean Hayes?

  Right.

• 1:02:03Speaker 03

  But this time they're like clapping a lot and screaming, ha, ha, ha. And I was like, what's happening? And I'm just there and this huge bug is just crawling up my neck. And I feel it. And I thought it was hitting me and going away and hitting me and going away. But when you see the thing, it's just, it starts like down here and it just goes, yee.

• 1:02:23Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  And it lands up right here. And I just feel it a little bit, but I was, I just stayed really still and I finished the song, the last line, and then I just go, and I kind of, and it flies into the light like that, and I saw it, and I was like, what the fuck was that? It was a fucking helicopter. It looked like a helicopter, it was crazy.

• 1:02:46Sean Hayes?

  I love that.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  But that was crazy, but it was kind of horrible. Like, if I would have known it was that, I probably would have just been screaming and yelling and...

• 1:02:52Sean Hayes?

  No, no. Um, okay, uh, three, three final little things. What's the most Bronx thing about you that's never left no matter where life has taken you?

• 1:03:00Speaker 03

  I, I can't stop cursing. I try.

• 1:03:02Sean Hayes?

  Okay, great. I love that.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  I have potty mouth, it's terrible.

• 1:03:04Sean Hayes?

  And then, I love it. And then, by the way, I'm telling, you know this, Jen, already, but I'm telling to Jason and Will, did you guys know that Google Images is because of Jennifer Lopez?

• 1:03:15Will Arnett?

  What do you mean?

• 1:03:16Sean Hayes?

  That Google didn't have Google Images until that green Versace dress, and then everybody Googled it. So then Google's like, we don't have any, anywhere for people to see images.

• 1:03:24Speaker 03

  A search engine.

• 1:03:25Sean Hayes?

  A search engine, so they invented Google Images because of Jennifer Lopez.

• 1:03:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:30Sean Hayes?

  Isn't that wild?

• 1:03:31Speaker 03

  And Sergey, Sergey has, you know, that he's been asked that after that, and he's like, yes, that is absolutely true. Jennifer, when she walked the red carpet in that dress, everybody wanted to have a picture of it, and we didn't have any Google search pics, anything, so we invented it.

• 1:03:45Will Arnett?

  Sue them, sue them, they're so rich, sue them.

• 1:03:47Speaker 03

  I was like, don't I deserve some money for that?

• 1:03:49Will Arnett?

  For sure, for sure. We got some good lawyers.

• 1:03:52Sean Hayes?

  Okay, and then we gotta plug this because I can't wait to see it. Office Romans comes out June 5th on Netflix.

• 1:03:57Speaker 03

  It does.

• 1:03:58Sean Hayes?

  Yes, you, Brett Goldstein, he wrote it with you in mind, right?

• 1:04:02Speaker 03

  Yes, he did.

• 1:04:03Will Arnett?

  Super funny Brett Goldstein.

• 1:04:04Speaker 03

  He's funny, but I love his brand, his brand of like writing where it's like, really kind of hard jokes, but with this wholesomeness at the end of the day. It's just, it's really, I think you guys will like this one.

• 1:04:17Sean Hayes?

  Okay, good, I can't wait to see it.

• 1:04:18Speaker 03

  It's made for guys and girls, not just the romantic comedy for like... Girls.

• 1:04:23Sean Hayes?

  And then this is really cool. Edward James Olmos, who was your dad in Selena, is your dad in this movie?

• 1:04:29Speaker 03

  He is. And I gotta tell you, when we filmed with him, and he walks in on this like board meeting, and it's the first time you see him, and when he walks in, like all the cast and all the extras that were in the board meeting, were like, you know, kinda like, he has such a commanding presence. But even more than that, when we screened it for the first time, and he walks in and his first line is "Hot damn", with that really deep voice, and people just started clapping in the theater.

• 1:05:00Speaker 03

  And I think part because he was my dad in Selena, of course, but also because it's just like, it's Edward James Olmos, you know, and it was great. It was great to get to work with him again. He's amazing.

• 1:05:11Sean Hayes?

  And speaking of musicals, I love Kiss of the Spider Woman. I can't believe it was your first movie musical ever. You need to do more. And second of all, I read somewhere you're gonna do Bye Bye Birdie, but that was a while ago.

• 1:05:21Speaker 03

  That was a while ago. That was a while ago. Do you remember when they were doing like these musicals on TV?

• 1:05:26Sean Hayes?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah.

• 1:05:27Speaker 03

  And the NBC.

• 1:05:29Will Arnett?

  Are you asking if Sean remembers?

• 1:05:31Sean Hayes?

  I did Hairspray Live with Ariana Grande and everything.

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  That's right. That's right. So when they did those, we were talking about doing Bye Bye Birdie, but then it kinda went away.

• 1:05:40Sean Hayes?

  Well, make it happen again.

• 1:05:41Speaker 03

  I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

• 1:05:43Sean Hayes?

  You'd be great, Rosie. You'd be a great Rosie.

• 1:05:45Speaker 03

  I would be a great Rosie. Trust me. I practiced all the songs.

• 1:05:48Sean Hayes?

  Well, they could change it to "Everything is J. Lo".

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, they could. They could.

• 1:05:56Sean Hayes?

  All right. Well, honey, thank you so much for being here.

• 1:05:58Speaker 03

  You guys are great. Thank you so much.

• 1:06:00Jason Bateman?

  It was very cool of you to do this, Jennifer. Thank you so much.

• 1:06:03Speaker 03

  No, not at all. Ever since you did it that one day and I walked into the podcast, I was like, I gotta do that one day. It looks so much fun.

• 1:06:09Jason Bateman?

  That's right. That's right. That's right.

• 1:06:12Sean Hayes?

  I'm sure you're off to go do something. What are you doing in New York?

• 1:06:16Speaker 03

  I was doing the up fronts. Right now, I'm editing, I'm working on an edit for the, I just did a residency in Vegas and I did a new show, a brand new show, The J Lo Show, which you would love because what I did was combine my hits with musical theater inspirations of mine. I know it sounds like it wouldn't work, but it worked amazing.

• 1:06:38Sean Hayes?

  Wait, but it's a residency where you just-

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  So we filmed it for Paramount Plus and for CBS and so I'm editing, we're editing that now.

• 1:06:47Sean Hayes?

  I can't wait to see that.

• 1:06:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, we filmed it. Yeah, that's gonna be good.

• 1:06:51Jason Bateman?

  Very cool. Busy as ever.

• 1:06:53Speaker 03

  You know, just doing my thing.

• 1:06:54Jason Bateman?

  Keep going.

• 1:06:55Speaker 03

  Singing, dancing show, girl.

• 1:06:57Jason Bateman?

  It's really so impressive, Jennifer. It really is. Keep going.

• 1:07:00Sean Hayes?

  Thank you.

• 1:07:00Will Arnett?

  Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing.

• 1:07:02Speaker 03

  So kind, thank you.

• 1:07:03Sean Hayes?

  Yes. We'll see you soon.

• 1:07:05Speaker 03

  I'll see you soon.

• 1:07:07Will Arnett?

  Bye, bye, bye.

• 1:07:09Speaker 03

  Bye.

• 1:07:09Sean Hayes?

  Bye, honey.

• 1:07:13Jason Bateman?

  That's a big star.

• 1:07:14Will Arnett?

  Sean, that is a massive-

• 1:07:16Sean Hayes?

  Come on.

• 1:07:17Will Arnett?

  Talented star.

• 1:07:18Sean Hayes?

  When I was reading about her, it's just, you go, oh yeah, oh wait, yeah, oh wait.

• 1:07:23Will Arnett?

  She's not a star, that's a mega star.

• 1:07:26Sean Hayes?

  That's a mega star.

• 1:07:26Jason Bateman?

  That documentary is pretty stunning. I mean, it takes you all the way through it. Everything that she's done.

• 1:07:31Will Arnett?

  Who can do, who does everything?

• 1:07:34Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:07:34Jason Bateman?

  But it's also so incredibly well earned. It's not, it's not because, you know, there's some sort of celebrity manipulation or something. She's, she's like, she does everything and does it at such a high level and people are, you know, paying for it and they're, they're supporting it and they're like, she's just-

• 1:07:53Will Arnett?

  And, and she has this sort of, as I was saying, like this sort of, this coolness and this calmness and this, and this like, knows who she is clearly, right? And is like so comfortable. And again, I was kind of getting at that thing of like, we all think that we know-

• 1:08:08Sean Hayes?

  Right.

• 1:08:08Will Arnett?

  And who people are. I remember, I remember watching, remember that Tiger Woods documentary came out a few years ago?

• 1:08:13Sean Hayes?

  Ah, so well.

• 1:08:14Will Arnett?

  And it started, and I remember turning it off because I was thinking like, I don't think he wants me to know all this stuff. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:08:21Jason Bateman?

  Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:22Will Arnett?

  I just turned it off.

• 1:08:23Sean Hayes?

  Tiger Woods wants you to know all that stuff?

• 1:08:25Will Arnett?

  But just anything about people, when any people just talking shit, like, we don't know anything about.

• 1:08:30Sean Hayes?

  Oh, I thought he was in it. I thought you were saying.

• 1:08:31Will Arnett?

  No, no, no. Until we hear from them what their experience is, we don't really know.

• 1:08:36Jason Bateman?

  And she just seems so purposely aware of her, of her beginnings, of her roots, and is constantly staying in touch with the people that she surrounds herself with.

• 1:08:47Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:48Jason Bateman?

  And so that's, that's probably why she's so on it.

• 1:08:51Will Arnett?

  Shani, Shani, I mean, that was a great get.

• 1:08:54Sean Hayes?

  Oh, I'm so happy. Yeah.

• 1:08:56Jason Bateman?

  There's no way you would be, you would be lazy to work in the Bye Bye Birdie thing at the end there of your question.

• 1:09:04Will Arnett?

  I hadn't even, he hadn't even thought about it.

• 1:09:05Sean Hayes?

  No, no.

• 1:09:07Jason Bateman?

  Plus, I think you've used Bye Bye Birdie before.

• 1:09:09Sean Hayes?

  Many times. Yeah, I would never use it again.

• 1:09:11Jason Bateman?

  We'll just wait. We'll wait for something a little bit better.

• 1:09:13Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:09:14Jason Bateman?

  If you need a Google search or something.

• 1:09:15Will Arnett?

  Yeah, if there's something that needs to come up, you know what I mean, that you

• 1:09:19Sean Hayes?

  Well, the Bye Bye Birdie thing is real because she, she was gonna do it.

• 1:09:22Will Arnett?

  No, we know it's real, but like, maybe if there was something that was.

• 1:09:25Jason Bateman?

  You can't set yourself up like that.

• 1:09:26Will Arnett?

  No, yeah, you know what I mean? There's gotta be something.

• 1:09:29Jason Bateman?

  Get him to type away.

• 1:09:30Will Arnett?

  Typing and just trying to think.

• 1:09:32Sean Hayes?

  Well, you guys know from her album, This Is Me.

• 1:09:35Will Arnett?

  Sure. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

• 1:09:37Jason Bateman?

  Oh, favorite. What do you?

• 1:09:39Will Arnett?

  You mean her 2002 record, This Is Me?

• 1:09:41Sean Hayes?

  Yeah. Yeah. This Is Me Then, yeah. And you guys know.

• 1:09:45Will Arnett?

  This Is Me Now?

• 1:09:46Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, This Is Me Now. Yeah.

• 1:09:48Jason Bateman?

  You have a favorite song from that album or something?

• 1:09:49Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, it's, it's so good. It's called Never, it's called Never Good.

• 1:09:54Jason Bateman?

  Oh, you sneaky son of a.

• 1:09:59Sean Hayes?

  Bye, Birdie.

• 1:10:02Jason Bateman?

  You're so bad.