Trump’s Ceasefire Gamble, Ray Dalio claims WW3 is Just Starting & Claude Mythos Breaks Free | The Tom Bilyeu Show LIVE

Welcome to this episode of "Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu." Today, Speaker A and Speaker B dive into a whirlwind of geopolitical events, market volatility, and seismic shifts in technology and global alliances. From the fragile Iran-U. S. ceasefire and its immediate impact on world markets, to Ray Dalio’s warning that we are living through a modern World War—with trade routes, alliances, and power structures rapidly evolving—the hosts unpack what these developments mean for everyday people and investors. We’ll also explore the jaw-dropping power of Anthropic's new AI, Claude Mythos, which is already breaking out of virtual cages, exposing critical software vulnerabilities, and raising national security alarms. The discussion doesn’t stop there: we look at shifting global loyalties as France pulls its gold from the U. S., the ongoing chaos in Israel and Lebanon, TikTok phenom Kabi Lane’s viral divorce strategy, and the cultural unity and economic power dynamics shaping America and the world. Packed with sharp analysis, controversial takes, pop culture headlines, and actionable insights for the era of uncertainty, this episode is your deep dive into what it means to live on the edge of world-changing events. Buckle up—the future is volatile, but Speaker A is determined to help you master your emotional state and stay optimistic, no matter how wild it gets. What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show: https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business:see if you qualify here. https://tombilyeu.com/call: https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:sign up here. https://tombilyeu.com/: https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Ketone IQ: Visit https://ketone.com/IMPACT for 30% OFF your subscription orderSumm: code TOMVIP20 for 20% off your first year at https://summ.com?via=tombilyeu&coupon=TOMVIP20 https://summ.com?via=tombilyeu&coupon=TOMVIP20Monetary Metals: Future-proof your wealth at https://monetarymetals.com/impactAquaTru: 20% off your purifier with code IMPACT https://aquatru.comDuck. Ai: Protect your privacy at https://duck.ai/impactBlinkist: Start your free trial at https://blinkist.com/impactQuince: Free shipping and 365-day returns at https://quince.com/impactpodAT&T Business: Switch to AT&T Business at business.att.com http://business.att.comIncogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code IMPACT at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/impactShopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/impact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:27Tom Bilyeu?

  And I think, as you'll see by the end of today's episode, it's not going anywhere. It's not going anywhere. It's going to be mad for quite some time. So we are all going to practice the things that I preached myself endlessly, which is that I control my emotional state, nobody else, not the world. It's just me. So this is going to be awesome. I can't wait. By the way, in the final hour before Trump was scheduled to send Iran back to the Stone Age, a two-week ceasefire deal was reached with Iran. If you guys haven't heard about that yet, we're going to be going into that deep. Everybody's big up if you're in the markets. Man, if you own assets or drive a car, you are loving it right now. It's all green everywhere because of that ceasefire. It's fragile, though, so we'll see. We've got plenty to talk about there.

• 2:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Claude Mythos is showing the world why you don't want China to win the AI war, why it better be the US, or whatever country you're in. I would expect you to want your country to win because, ooh, buddy. This got wild. Claude Mythos broke out of its virtual cage and accessed the open internet. Be careful what you challenge your AI to do. Causing people to panic uh over how powerful AI has gotten. We're going to get into the details on that one, but that that's really going to uh curl your hair. It's pretty crazy. And speaking of things, it's going to curl your hair. Ray Dalio has laid out his argument for how what's happening right now fits the classic definition of a world war. So congratulations, everybody. You are in the middle of World War III. You just don't realize it yet.

• 2:55Tom Bilyeu?

  This one feels like it has a lot of validity, so we're going to go deep on that one. And uh yeah, so it's interesting because it finally did put words to how I've been feeling. Um, so we'll get into that. France, recognizing that this is a very tumultuous time, has removed all of their gold from the US.

• 3:17Tom Bilyeu?

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• 3:46Speaker 01

  Welcome. Today's stream is sponsored by Taco Bell um and the new Trump uh nacho cheese chalupa uh coming to a Middle Eastern restaurant near you.

• 3:57Tom Bilyeu?

  So you're saying Trump tacoed out one more time?

• 4:00Speaker 01

  Okay, so I put it on the poll. What do you think about the ceasefire? First option, thank God, Allah, capitalism, whoever you worship.

• 4:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Wow.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  The second one, taco. The third one, too early to tell, don't know, kind of, maybe, no, yeah, whatever.

• 4:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Where are we at? What's the, what's the ranking?

• 4:16Speaker 01

  A majority of people are saying thank God, Allah, capitalism, or taco.

• 4:21Tom Bilyeu?

  What's, what does taco have compared to?

• 4:24Speaker 01

  Forty percent thank God, thirty seven percent taco.

• 4:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Wow, so it's close. Okay, that's interesting. Um, I, how, how are we meant to read taco? Is that people being derogatory? Like, hey, this kid really wussed out and I wish he would have seen it through. Like, I wanted to see Iran back in the Stone Ages? How do we read that?

• 4:41Speaker 01

  Trump makes a threat, doesn't follow up with that threat, he bluffs.

• 4:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes.

• 4:44Speaker 01

  Bluffing is probably a better word.

• 4:46Tom Bilyeu?

  And yay, so glad he bluffs. Like, I, for one, am like, bib on. He's talking about the Stone Age, I'm getting my taco ingredients, I'm laying them out, I'm like, fuck, yeah, it's gonna be taco night, I'm here for it. Uh, I want the tacos, so I'm concerned that people that say taco mean it in like, uh, what a dumbass, I can't believe you backed down.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  You hit a bomb to everybody?

• 5:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah. Or they just hate Trump, I guess, and it's like, they just, anything they can do to dig at this guy. It was like, on their bingo card, okay, either we're going to go after him for war crimes, or we're going to mock him for backing down. Those are our choices.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  Either way, we're going after him. Either way, either way.

• 5:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, it's wild.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  All right, break it down for us. We gotta talk about the 10-point plan, or 15-point plan, depending on what foreign country tweets out first. Uh, and we'll see exactly what the negotiations are.

• 5:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah. So, the, we got a ceasefire in Iran, that's sort of true. Uh, the details remain murky, there's a battle of narratives going on, and one of the gifts that I would like to bring to the world is just a constant reminder that everybody is trying to control the way that you see things. I do my best to choose my words carefully, but even I am choosing words, and so I am bringing to you a frame of reference. So remember, as we all look at what's happening right now, we are being bombarded by people that want us to see it from their perspective. Uh, and there's a lot of conflicting details flying, almost as fast as the additional rockets that have been flying. So I will say that at best, the ceasefire is extremely fragile.

• 6:21Tom Bilyeu?

  The details go something like this. Just like an hour or so before Trump's self-imposed 8pm Tuesday deadline, the US and Iran agreed sensitively to a two-week ceasefire, that's it, they haven't agreed to points. They've agreed to a two-week ceasefire with peace talks set for Friday in Islamabad. Pakistan's Prime Minister, Shabazz Sharif, helped get the two-week pause for negotiations across the finish line, and he posted directly on X, tagging Trump, Vance, Rubio, and Whitkoff, asking Trump to please extend the deadline two weeks, and asking Iran as an act of good faith to open the strait. Of Hormuz, obviously. So Trump posted on True Social that based on conversations with

• 7:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Sharif and Pakistani Army Chief Field Marshal Assim Munir, he agreed to suspend bombing Iran for two weeks on the condition of a complete, immediate, and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz.

• 7:21Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, I've got some bad news. The ceasefire so far feels very fragile, given all the rockets that are flying everywhere. And I'm not even including Israel bombing Lebanon. I think that's a separate issue. It's terrible, but nonetheless, it's a separate issue. And there's nothing like a full reopening of the strait right now. So just to be real clear, according to reporting, limited safe passage of a much reduced number of ships has begun to move through the strait. So, okay, good sign, but we are not to the point of what Trump said that the two weeks was conditioned upon. Now, I think on that, Trump will be pretty forgiving for people that like to see taco sauce on Trump's chin. You can expect him to, he's gonna take that. There's no way he's gonna go make

• 8:05Tom Bilyeu?

  good on the insane threats that he was promising, because the strait isn't open enough. But over time, I think you could see that start to grate on him. So we'll see where we end up. Iran's foreign minister confirmed that Tehran has accepted the ceasefire and said that Iran would allow safe passage through the strait during those two weeks via coordination with Iran's armed forces. Now, emotions are still gonna be high. These are humans that we're talking about. So you can expect pettiness. You can expect people to drag their feet. Everybody should be assuming that neither the US nor Iran is actually putting their real agenda on the table, that both sides

• 8:49Tom Bilyeu?

  are gonna be using the beat to build their arsenals back up to get rested so that they can fight some more. So please don't be surprised if any of this goes awry. Now, the mechanic that got Iran over the line, Trump said he received a 10-point proposal from Iran and called it a workable basis for negotiation. Okay? Workable basis for negotiation, not I've agreed to these points has been this is where the most of the battle for the narrative has been taking place is around what's been proposed, what's been agreed. There's like all these fake points that are going around and Trump is talking about whether a law was broken in some of that reporting. Anyway, adding,

• 9:34Tom Bilyeu?

  when you look at the points that were put forward, almost all of the points that were considered to be contention according to Trump have been moved beyond. So the things that were the real sticking points apparently are no longer there. Iran's framing, though, of those same items is pretty different. Iran's 10-point proposal included, according to them, regulated passage through Hormoz under Iranian military coordination, full sanctions relief, and Iran retaining what it called a quote unquote "unique economic and geopolitical standing over the strait," meaning basically we get to extort ships that are going through the strait. Now, much of the narrative warfare that's flying all over social media is whether

• 10:15Tom Bilyeu?

  this is a win for Iran or the US. Some people are saying that Trump has already agreed to Iran's deal points, which would be a humiliating defeat, but Trump said that that's all fake news and he's going to investigate CNN, as I was saying, they were the ones that broke the story first, to see if this was an honest mistake or if they actually misreported intentionally. So we'll see how that winds up. I'm sure that will just fall by the wayside, but we'll find out. Previously, Trump had warned that a whole civilization will die tonight. People have been running with that, saying that he was promising the genocide of the people in Iran. I think he was more talking about the infrastructure, but nonetheless, he certainly

• 11:00Tom Bilyeu?

  left plenty of room for people to hate what he was saying. He had threatened massive strikes on civilian infrastructure, and the Iranians had encouraged their own people to go stand around that infrastructure, which is also a war crime. So keep that in mind. Plenty of war crimes for everybody. And this was brushed off around whether Trump thought these were war crimes or not, but I think you would expect that. His specific targets included bridges, power plants, and water treatment facilities. And while I, for one, am forcing myself, as mentioned at the top of the show, to maintain optimism here, the truce does indeed feel extraordinarily delicate. Sirens have sounded across Israel and multiple Gulf states, including Kuwait,

• 11:43Tom Bilyeu?

  UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia, even after the ceasefire went to effect. So that's certainly not great news for this holding. Israel's military said it identified several rounds of missiles that were launched from Iran as well. And as many people are pointing out, it does appear that Israel is also bombing the living daylights out of Lebanon. It's a different conflict, but nonetheless entirely related. And so I'm sure some people will try to throw that in the mix. Now, whether all of these launches came before or after the ceasefire technically took effect isn't yet confirmed. Iran's decentralized military structure also makes it very possible that the IRGC commanders who are operating autonomously off a predetermined target list just may not have gotten the orders in

• 12:26Tom Bilyeu?

  time. So it's very possible that everybody's intentions were pure. It's of course also possible that it's not. Everybody's just being an asshole. Keep all of that in mind. Iran's supreme leader issued a stop-fire order approximately two hours after Trump's announcement. So we'll see how long it takes to work its way down to all the troops. Now, the markets reacted immediately, as markets do, which I hope, if you guys are new-ish to the investing game, that you very quickly map how reactive markets are up and down, which is why you don't panic sell. The S&P 500 futures rose more than 1% on the news, and the price of oil plunged back down to below 95. That's both for WTI and Brent

• 13:08Tom Bilyeu?

  crude. I don't know if any of you care about the difference, but there is a difference. And so both of them are back down. So just remember, if something weird happens, the markets will flip again, and oil prices will skyrocket back up, and the stock market will go back down. So this is why I say have a very long-term time horizon. Do not try to time the market. This stuff's way too volatile, way too volatile. We're hitting pause for a moment, but there's plenty more ahead, so don't go anywhere.

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• 16:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for staying tuned. Now, let's get back to it.

• 16:16Speaker 01

  Starting at the beginning, just in general, I'm glad we got the ceasefire. It was looking dicey.

• 16:21Tom Bilyeu?

  It's still looking dicey. You are in World War III. I say that just as blase as I can.

• 16:26Speaker 01

  I was surprised how many of the Iranian people actually were standing on bridges, in power plants, waving their flags, almost egging the US on to do something. So I'm glad we at least got out of that diplomatic nightmare crisis that would have ensued.

• 16:40Tom Bilyeu?

  It's also, so yes, maybe egging on, but you've got to respect when somebody believes in something enough that they're willing to die for it. The US has made no secret, they will blow shit up. And you know that, and you still go, go hold hands around the building, like, respect. I am not one to say, I will acknowledge fully when my adversary is worthy. These guys are not for play. So, again, I come back to, I don't know what portion of the country is for the regime, what is against. I found an account on X last night of somebody who appears

• 17:19Tom Bilyeu?

  to be in Iran. They have access to a Starlink satellite, and they're posting like crazy, saying, you know, "Hey, listen, we actually do want US bombs. We really do want to get out from under this regime." But is that propaganda? Is that somebody outside that's spoofing it and just making it seem like they're inside? Do they represent like 42 people? Do they represent 42 million people? I have no idea. So you have to be very careful. Whatever narrative you look for, you're gonna find. So you've also got to seek the disconfirming evidence. But it's very interesting. It does not appear that they are a nation moving in lockstep. But getting the exact percentages

• 18:00Tom Bilyeu?

  of where this all breaks is impossible to ascertain. I'm just reminding myself constantly of what the US looks like from the outside. If you want to believe that every American hates America, it'd be very easy to paint that picture. If you want to believe that every American supports Trump, it'd be very easy to paint that picture. Both are lies. But there's enough people making noise in those directions that you're gonna find what you're looking for. It's really wild. And I do remember, I know we talked about this a lot when we first started the live, but going back to when I was reading James Burnham and thinking through like, whoa, a lot of the stuff that he talks about, the iron law of oligarchy, you will always be ruled by a few, those people will control the narrative. I'm like, yeah, that's not going to work. In the

• 18:44Tom Bilyeu?

  age of the internet and social media, where the volume and velocity of information is so excruciatingly high, that it's going to play out in a different way. And we're now seeing how it plays out, that you get all these fragmented narratives, it becomes very difficult to ascertain what the real picture is. You can start piecing things together, but you have to do a lot of individual work. Most people are not willing to do that. And I'm, I really believe, and this is something I've taught to entrepreneurs for a very long time. If you want to lead, you have to intoxicate people with certainty. And so that like, let's sit with that for a second. One of the things that makes a great leader is that they can intoxicate people with certainty.

• 19:30Tom Bilyeu?

  I am right. I see the future clearly. We must all do this. And the human mind abhors confusion so much that you can get somebody like Hitler that will march you down a path of just unimaginable evil, but they sound so convincing that they've got the right answer while they do it. And then anybody that's like, well, really, there's a lot more nuance. We need to stop and think about this. Those people don't do as well. I'll give you an example. You know who Coleman Hughes is. Okay, that kid should be one of the biggest influencers on planet earth. And every time I see his content, I want to scream at the internet. I'm just like, the guy you've been waiting for

• 20:15Tom Bilyeu?

  exists. His name is fucking Coleman Hughes. And he can hold extraordinarily nuanced ideas in his head. He's open and willing to change his mind. He can debate with people with civility, but tenacity. I mean, just like, how the fuck does this kid not get millions of views on everything he does? But he doesn't. And the reason he doesn't is he is not bombastic. I'm not going to get a jersey that says Coleman Hughes, because he does not whip up emotion. He does not present certainty. It is this way. Let's go. Come on, everybody. He's like, okay, we've got to think through it. Here's how I'm thinking through it. And it doesn't work. And that really riles me up.

• 20:53Speaker 01

  Bringing it back to the war, Iran, no, no, no, I love it.

• 20:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Very fair.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  Iran announced their 10-point plan, Trump announced the 15-point plan. There is some speculation about which, what negotiation point, you know, classic negotiation, you say 100, I say 10, we meet somewhere at 45, 50, 55, depending on how good we are at negotiating. If you are looking at this before the situation, after the situation.

• 21:18Tom Bilyeu?

  What's the situation?

• 21:20Speaker 01

  Iran in attack.

• 21:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Yep.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, from the, from the last month and a half.

• 21:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 21:26Speaker 01

  It seems that no matter what we come out of, the Strait of Hormuz will now be a toll road in one direction or another, somebody's going to be getting some type of proceeds to pass through that. It used to be free. There's going to be some type of infrastructure cost that will need to happen in the UAE countries, in Iran, things like that. As we're starting to look through all these points, do you think that we have quote unquote, "won" this war, or are we on the winning side if we actually broker a deal with some of these points being made? Or was it, we got the, we got the uranium, Iran knows not to mess with us, we got the moral victory, we, we did what we came to do?

• 22:02Tom Bilyeu?

  I won't be able to answer that question until the actual negotiated peace comes out. But if the war were to end right now, today, this would be an unmitigated disaster for the United States. If we walk out of this right now, all we have done is reassert that if we say we're going to do something, we're going to do it. Now, that, that isn't nothing, that is a big thing on the world stage. People understand between Venezuela and Iran, if we say we're going to do it, we're going to do it, under Trump. But the world also knows that if you just wait out Trump, the odds you get another Trump are effectively zero. And so you're going to be back to who knows what kind of deterrence position in the future.

• 22:44Tom Bilyeu?

  So there is always that uncertainty with the way that America operates. Now, if the Strait of Hormuz goes from open, but like everybody's tense about it, to everybody's paying a $2 million fee, I think that that is much worse for the world. And so I'll be very interested to see what happens in the long run with people like the UAE, Saudi Arabia. Do they just shrug it off and go, okay, whatever, this is fine? Do they use this as a jumping off point to do like what Saudi's doing and building other pipelines that go to other means of distribution? So across land to another sea, or just across land so that in the GCC countries, maybe all the way to Israel, that they're just literally piping the oil? That's certainly possible.

• 23:27Tom Bilyeu?

  So in the long run, things will find a balance again. But I think right now, we have done an extraordinary job of alienating our allies, making us seem unhinged on the world stage. So I think as of right now, today, far more damage has come out. Now, if on the other side of this, on the other hand, what we get is an Iran that is more like Venezuela. It's not necessarily regime change, though Trump is billing it as such, but a regime that is more willing to negotiate because they don't want to see you blast them into oblivion. And I just hold fast and steady to if we can get all of the countries in the Gulf, in the Persian Gulf, in the Arabian Gulf, if we can get all of them to think economically,

• 24:11Tom Bilyeu?

  then we've got an incredible opportunity. The Gulf region is already, it is already the place where all the capital in the world is aggregating and then being disseminated from. Now, that may change, given the instability that we see right now. But if that can settle down and we really do get this working from a dollars and cents standpoint, then this could be an incredible victory. Those dollars keep flowing into the US. The US markets remain the best markets. If you're looking to put money to work, that may not remain true forever, but that's still true right now, today. If we can reaffirm the petrol dollar, that would be a gigantic win for the US.

• 24:52Tom Bilyeu?

  If we can have a relationship with Iran that allows us to have more influence- I think we're probably gonna have to give up on control at this point, but more influence on the oil that makes its way to China. Basically stop giving them discounted oil and at least get it back on the global market. At normal prices like those things would be a win. If Iran is like, we're not going to pursue a ballistic missile. Regiment anymore. We're not going to go after nuclear weapons at all like. And with all the other things I said, this would be a huge win. But as of right now, today, you're not there. And so we are still in a situation where if you wrap this up today with things as they are now. It would be an unmitigated disaster.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  The goat Ray Dalio posted the big thing. We are in a world war that isn't going to end anytime soon. So he thinks this is just the first domino of a much larger. Arrangement of dominos that is set to happen. Do you share this notion that this is Iran might, there might not be bombs going off right now, but there's still some economic warfare and things that are still going to be active?

• 26:04Tom Bilyeu?

  The way, yes, is the fast answer. I do agree that he is clocking this the most wisely. I've had a feeling for maybe six months that. I could not put words to the way that I always thought of it in my own head is that. When you take a stem cell and you make it pluripotent. You can run into problems where like cancer start forming because that cell doesn't know what it's supposed to be anymore. Same with, there's a jellyfish that is technically immortal. It will only die via trauma. Otherwise, what it does is basically it, it decoheres into essentially pluripotent stem cells where it's like, what am I?

• 26:47Tom Bilyeu?

  So it becomes like this sort of gelatinous blob and then it reconstitutes itself. That's what I feel like is happening to the world. It's in this position where it's de-differentiated. All the alliances that we used to be able to count on, they just, they're not really real anymore. Like the people that we think of as our allies, the trade routes, like the actual. Physical trade routes, those are falling apart. The idea that America is the policeman of the world, that's going away. Like Trump has explicitly said these things, but we're not talking much about them. And so when I watch the markets, I see a market reacting as if these are temporary things and everything's just going to go back to normal. And it's like, that world is dead.

• 27:31Tom Bilyeu?

  And so that feeling is very unnerving. I do not like the way that truth makes me feel. But when I read Ray Dalio's analysis, at least it gives you a map forward of how these things tend to play out. Now, the only thing I can tell you is anytime we believe we have mapped things accurately, people start reacting to that feeling that we haven't mapped out accurately and it makes the map inaccurate. It's a hilarious truth of markets that people talk a lot about. They say markets follow the pain, the path of maximum pain. That I think is true because you think, oh, I've seen this before. So the market then has a whole bunch of people that think they've seen it before. So they react in a new way and the market goes a new direction and everybody is punished.

• 28:15Tom Bilyeu?

  I have a feeling that when the world order changes, it just is going to be painful. And so I don't think there's going to be a way around the pain, even though now it's like, well, we can see it coming. And so that's the part where it gets distressing. And if you want, I can walk people through like Ray's stance.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's jump into Ray's actual analysis.

• 28:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so Ray Dalio has spent 50 years as a global macro investor, studying every major financial and geopolitical crisis of the last 500 years. Let's all put that right there on the mantle, okay? Nobody has made more money than Ray Dalio, being able to predict where the world is going. Remember, markets are the ability to predict the future more accurately than somebody else. And he said, hey, what's a great predictor of the future? It's the past. So let me look at the past. He actually studied far more than 500 years, but 500 years is where the pattern that we're living through now really began to crystallize. And I am just shocked at how many people brush him off. I think they're a bunch of fucking morons. Now Dalio. Has said that the current moment is most analogous to 1913 and 1938.

• 29:24Tom Bilyeu?

  The years just before the world blew up into world wars. Now, both times, just like today, people thought the conflicts were isolated. Both times, they were catastrophically wrong. As I imagine, we are catastrophically wrong right now to not realize that everything going on in Ukraine, everything going on in Iran and across the GCC, Israel, ah, all of it is actually part of World War III around reorganizing the entire world order. Now, as you guys well know, there are multiple active shooting wars running simultaneously right now. Russia versus Ukraine and NATO. Israel versus Gaza, Lebanon and Syria. The US and Israel versus Iran.

• 30:08Tom Bilyeu?

  Iran versus the GCC nations. A separate and wildly underreported conflict that is pitting Saudi Arabia and the UAE against each other. Tell me the last time you heard anybody talk about that. In a proxy war being carried out in Yemen and Sudan. Okay. There's a lot going on. And that's all before you count the non-shooting wars, the trade wars, the tech wars, the capital wars that virtually every major power right now is fighting already. Dalio's view, and I think he is right, is that these aren't separate stories. These are one story. This is indisputable. And what he says is, we are now in an interconnected world that has a number of shooting wars going on.

• 30:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Together, these conflicts make up a very classic world war that is analogous to past world wars. Now, that's the end of the quote. The sides that are lining up clearly are China, Russia, Iran and North Korea. That's one side. The US, Europe, Ukraine, Israel and the GCC states plus Japan on the other side. You can throw in Australia on our side if you want to really be robust. But those are the rough, rough sides. Now, Dalio has tracked all of that through UN voting records, formal treaties, and direct actions, and he says they all point in the same direction, and that is this world war, the remapping of all the alliances. Dalio has mapped out, he's been doing this for a while, by the way, so none of this is new, it's not like he's being reactionary to what's happening right now.

• 31:38Tom Bilyeu?

  This is just what he's seeing, looking back at the 500 years of history, that we as a world always go through this 13-step sequence. We're hitting pause for a moment, but there's plenty more ahead, so don't go anywhere.

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• 33:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for staying tuned. Now, let's get back to it. As we build up to these wars, and data has, the data shows that these steps precede every major world war in recorded history. So you start with trade wars, you get alliance formations, proxy conflicts, resource weaponization, multi-theater combat, et cetera. And as Dalio has recently pointed out on X, we just hit step nine, which is multi-theater conflicts increasingly happening simultaneously.

• 33:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Now Dalio argues that the US is in a structurally weak position to fight a prolonged multi-front war. Again, this is him just reading history. Right now, the US runs 750 to 800 military bases across 70 to 80 countries. We are all over. Now, by way of comparison, China only has one. Now, that may seem like a W for us and an L for China, but the reality is, this is classic overextension. Overextension is exactly what has brought down every dominant power before ours. Yikes. The lesson of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, it's all the same lesson. Winning only happens if the winning country can get out and the losing country can no

• 34:17Tom Bilyeu?

  longer be a threat. The US, this major power with bases all over the place, we haven't managed that in decades. Now, you guys have heard me talk before. The reason is, we're just not willing to kill enough people. Yay. Thank God. Yes. Win. Go, girl. Like, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just saying, that's the reality. If you want to know why this was possible in days of old, it's because they would just slaughter and slaughter and slaughter and slaughter and slaughter and slaughter. Yeah. Genocide is like the repeating number one hit song, basically of every generation, all throughout human history, until now. And I'm very glad that we happen to be in the time where we can all frown upon that and make noise and make sure that neither our government nor any other government is perpetrating

• 35:02Tom Bilyeu?

  that. But if you want to know why this overextension becomes a problem, it's that you're not able to just gobble up, thankfully, all of the resources in any given nation. Now, Dalio's bottom line is that the world order has changed from a multilateral, rules-based world order. I don't think people even know what he means by that. Just that you can govern things by laws instead of...

• 35:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Guns and bombs. Now, we're back to a guns and bombs Midas right world order. With no single dominant player enforcing that order, which means we can expect more fighting. Okay, when you don't have a world policeman, but it is a might makes right world. Then people are going to fight all the time because they want to get theirs. That's just how the world works. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, is versus ought, it is going to be the biggest problem for having these discussions. Well, but the world is remapping its allegiances in real time and it's going to continue to be a very bloody affair to redraw these lines. So do not expect things to settle down anytime soon.

• 36:13Tom Bilyeu?

  If when things go red, you panic or things go green, you get too relaxed, you are going to get mowed over by the fact that we are in a hyper volatile time right now and the odds that this all slows down is very, very low. And through all of it, all of us are going to have to keep investing because war is inflationary. So this is going to be a wild time and you're not going to be able to sit on the sidelines.

• 36:39Speaker 01

  That reminds me because I want to bring something up. I think that there's this uniquely American kind of shield we have around us where we are seeing ourselves as the hero in every story. And I understand that it's a was a main character syndrome. We are the main characters in the world, we're the main characters globally, we're the main characters in history.

• 36:58Tom Bilyeu?

  That were the main character.

• 36:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:59Tom Bilyeu?

  That were the hero.

• 37:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. But when we go into other countries, they hear what we're saying, they hear what we celebrate, they hear what we are championing. And to me, that seems like we are perpetuating a conflict even more. Somebody had like a really good tweet about this where they say, no, you don't get it. When Trump says a whole civilization will die tonight, he's being hyperbolic and posturing. Unlike when Iran says death to America, which is actually a very serious threat should definitely serve as a basis for an invasion.

• 37:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Such a great point.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? So it's one of those things where. Khomeini, the person we killed, the OG one, he even said, "Death to America is death to Americans." So he would have said, "Death to the American Epstein class." I think America would have been like, "Okay, we get what you're saying now." But they shorthanded "Death to America." And then Trump will say, "A whole civilization will die tonight." You can allegedly say what you want about the girl school bombing. You can allegedly say what you want about the Trump, the bridge bombing. But there is some little boy that whether my parents got killed in the school, the bridge now made my dad lose his job. Something has happened that America did that is changing my life forever. And I don't think a 10, 15 point, 16 point peace plan is going to solve that problem.

• 38:10Speaker 01

  And then in 30 years from now, we're going to have some Iranian insurgency terrorist organization that is birthed and we're going to be like, "Oh, my gosh, these people are so uncivilized. They're just bad people. We need to bomb them." And we don't understand the consequences of our actions.

• 38:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 38:24Speaker 01

  So there is something to the, I understand we have to do, might makes right. We have to fight for our resources. But then do we also, we also have to be very honest about the consequences of that fight.

• 38:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes.

• 38:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Very well said. I'm not even sure there's more to say to that. Uh, I'll give you a slightly different angle on this. So, uh, everybody has a set of values. They will murder other people for their values. Everybody does for all of time. Uh, and yeah, we have a collision of values, certainly with Iran. We have a collision of values with more countries than just Iran. But everybody's willing to kill for their values. So the question becomes, you've got, um, somebody like Dave Smith, who we just had on, thoroughly enjoying my time with him at all times. I wish I had more time with him, so I could have asked about the, "America is, uh, the biggest terrorist." I think it was something like that in the world.

• 39:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Um, and I think there's a very real argument to be made that that's true. And so you have to understand, if somebody has a value set that's like, "You shouldn't be in wars. If people want to go genocide their own people, then you let them genocide their own people." It is what it is. And I use that example only to say that if your value is non-interventionist, we leave people alone and anybody that's doing that. They all think they're the main character. They all think that they're right. Remember, Iran is not twirling their mustache, thinking they're the bad guy. Iran thinks we're the good guy. These guys are the big saint. They're super evil. And so what I love about that tweet is it brings home what you see in that is a values collision. You see somebody who's like, no, no, no, death to America, obviously, because they're bad.

• 40:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, we don't mean the average American person. Like, don't be ridiculous. Sure, if I have to kill them all, fine, fine, fine. But like, this is really just, you guys represent an idea that I can't have running loose in the world. If you'll give up the idea, then I would leave you alone. Same on our side, right? So that's where I'm always like, people end up squabbling over the dumb parts. And not getting to the, okay, wait, you do realize that we're trying to kill each other, like for real, for real, trying to kill each other, like actually end life? Uh, so I'm way less worried about the words and I'm like, super worried about the fact that what humans do is they kill you. Until you don't have the will to be killed anymore and you will allow yourself to be subjugated. That's human nature.

• 40:47Tom Bilyeu?

  And so that seems like the far more interesting part to focus on, certainly the far more important part. Uh, instead of getting lost over whether they're chanting death to America. If we invaded because they, they were chanting the words death to America, that would be the dumbest thing in the universe. If we invaded because we actually had reason to believe that they were building up a nuclear arsenal and that they would use it, that makes sense. Uh, here's the part everyone's gonna hate. If we invaded because we understand that the real war is with China and if we can't weaken China, then we're going to be in a devastatingly bad position. In the new world order that's forming, uh, where we're not going to be able to carve out our own sphere of influence.

• 41:30Tom Bilyeu?

  Because China spent so many decades with their Belt and Road Initiative infiltrating the, uh, Western Hemisphere. And that, yeah, if I have to invade Iran to make sure that I get some sort of control over that oil, to make sure that I can block China, to make sure that I get my investment dollars from the GCC so that I'm in a good position to move forward in the world, uh, then I'm going to do it. And that's where I'm like, it, it is so difficult to, one.

• 42:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Which person cares about which motivation? Because all of the motivations are real up to and including the people who Americans, who believe that Jesus wants Israel to have like all of the area Jerusalem, all that.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  The Mike Huckabee's of the world.

• 42:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, exactly. And so those motivations are real. But then people who map the world like I map it completely economically, like those motivations are also real. And then Iran has their own motivations and people that underestimate their belief in their religion would be making a huge mistake. This is a theocracy. So, yeah, which motivation is real? They're all real, but depending on what person you're talking to depends on like of the seven things that are motivating them. Which one like takes up the most of like their energy in any given moment? It's just that's humans, man. This is so wild.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  And then this next one, I'm on a daisy chain with the France part of it all. So France just removed all gold from the New York Reserve. It seems like our allies are also reacting to this new world order that's changing and shifting around us.

• 43:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Y'all.

• 43:09Speaker 01

  Some people in the chat even said, what allies? They're not helping us, so they're not allies anymore. There is going to be some divorces that happen on the global scale. What do you think are some of the long term ramifications of us with both us not having allies in those same spots? And what kind of vulnerabilities that might bring up?

• 43:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, if you start thinking about what Trump is trying to do is create what he calls Greater North America. I'm pretty sure that's what he calls it. So you've got from Greenland down to the Panama Canal. And he's saying, this is America, essentially. He's not using those words, but like, that's the idea. This is our sphere of influence. I'm perfectly happy to give up on the rest. You guys, Europe, you deal with Europe, Asia, you guys deal with Asia. This is us and we're going to make sure that we're in control of all this stuff. And whatever that means, we have to do around the world to make sure that we're going to be able to get this, we're going to do. Part of that is going to be we have to kick China out. Part of that is going to be that we have to weaken China via energy policy, yada, yada. So that starts making a lot of this stuff make sense.

• 44:13Tom Bilyeu?

  But in terms of the way that things will fall out with our allies. It's if Europe isn't important as important, let's say, to the greater North American sphere of influence, then Trump's thinking is fuck them. Now, if you alienate your allies, do not expect them to come to your aid, as he is finding out now. Now, I'm sure Trump is mapping this as, well, I didn't do anything wrong and these guys are being bad allies. That would be a mistake. You humiliated them, you mocked them, you

• 44:47Tom Bilyeu?

  go into a war without like consulting with them at all, a war that is going to impact them. And then you're like, hey, come help me clean up this mess. It's pretty wild. So all of that stuff is relatively understandable in terms of that. But I will say to the Europeans that you can take any snapshot in history and go, oh, Trump was the bad guy here. Or you take a snapshot and go, oh, now you guys need something and you're not going to get it. So it's be careful of playing your card too heavily when you're right. This is something I talk to my wife about all the time. If somebody is wronging me, there is a point at which it's like, this has to be dealt with immediately.

• 45:30Tom Bilyeu?

  But there are other times, like, let's say, my neighbors are being noisy. I'm just gonna mark it down. My neighbors are noisy this day, this time, and I didn't say shit about it. I just put a pillow over my head, whatever, rolled over, let them have their party, let them enjoy it. Now, the reason that I do that is because one day I might want to have a party. And on that day, when they do knock on my door, I'm going to pull out my little notebook and I'm going to go through and say, hey, here were all the times where I didn't give you guys a hard time. You have a choice right now. We can either now get into a tit for tat pissing contest and I will never let anything slide ever again. Or you can turn around and fuck off. Now, obviously, I'm not going to say turn around and fuck off.

• 46:14Tom Bilyeu?

  But I am gonna make it abundantly clear that, man, my thing is you wanna give everybody as much grace as possible. You guys know I don't do a lot of parties. It's like a one-off. Totally get that this is being inconvenient. I'm sorry, maybe there's even a little something I can do, but I am gonna have this party. So I would just like to figure out, moving forward, how do you wanna handle this? Every time you guys are bothering me, do you want me to come to your door? Or do we wanna allow each other a little bit of latitude? So I don't think that Europe was wise in the way that they handled this, but I also don't think that Trump has been wise in the way that he has handled it. And the Europeans are in a bad spot, and they are acting like they're not. The Europeans are in a catastrophic position.

• 46:56Tom Bilyeu?

  And they're acting like the old world order still exists. And that's the part that scares me for them, especially if somebody has so much family in sort of Europe. They're technically in the UK, which is technically not part of Europe, but you get it.

• 47:13Speaker 01

  And it's interesting that they're doing this right now when a part of their country really is at war right now. Like Russia and Ukraine is still amping up. They're still at boots on the ground. They're still blowing things up. So it's one of those things where while Ukraine has done a great job, that I don't think anybody has seen them lasting this long. It is, it just needs one more break. Maybe the energy crisis hits them, something happens, and then the tides of war change. And now Europe, like you said, is on its back foot versus on its front foot. And then now they're calling America for help.

• 47:43Tom Bilyeu?

  No doubt.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  Do you think long term, we can sustain just being the greater North America and just closing our, closing our ears, closing our eyes and being like, if you're not on this continent, leave us alone type thing?

• 47:54Tom Bilyeu?

  Absolutely.

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Really?

• 47:55Tom Bilyeu?

  There, first of all, we are an extraordinarily gifted economy in that we have, we make a ton of our own food. We make plenty of energy for ourselves. We are still the biggest, or well, by purchasing power, we are definitely the biggest in terms of the world wants to sell us stuff in a way that they don't wanna sell things to China. But China's massive, not to be trifled with, and our economies are sort of neck and neck. But the world will come to us in a way that the rest of the world really can't count on the world coming to them. Now, Europe that is strong and can actually take care of itself has a lot of economic might behind it.

• 48:40Tom Bilyeu?

  So if it can get its shit together, it could be a real player, but it has to contend with Russia. So it is, um, yes, America will be just fine. America will come out farther ahead than most countries. America has to worry about a civil war. America has to worry about debt. That's where we will crater ourselves.

• 49:00Speaker 01

  And also to throw a, like a rock in the plans is China literally just signed a deal with Canada. So in this Greater North American project, the north part of the America is already kind of breaking off. So.

• 49:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, Canada would do very well not to fuck around too much. Like there is for sure, trade relationship with China, of course, do your thing. But if, for instance, they started allowing China to have a military base or something like that, nonstarter, like instabomb, like it would be very bad. Like that would be a diplomatic crisis. But if China landed military equipment, it would get bombed immediately.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  Okay. And then this is also part of the Cuba problem as well to the Greater North America. So that's why we want all these territories to just be under US friendly terms.

• 49:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah. Keep in mind that you had Cuba was, um, where Russia was stockpiling nuclear weapons so that they could strike the US within minutes.

• 50:04Tom Bilyeu?

  America's not going to stand for that. Not then, not now, not ever. Like you're never going to let that play out. So, yeah, with Cuba in a destabilized world, because I'm sure people are like, well, hold on. Like since the 1960s, like there's been no problem. Yes, because we fought a Cold War, it got that tense. Then the Soviet Union collapsed. That game is over. Russia is like getting back up on its feet, starting to like feel its oats. China and Russia are coordinating now in a massive way with Iran, with North Korea. And if China has now built a back road into Cuba, or Russia still has relationships with Cuba, hell no. In a world where it's destabilized and everybody's jockeying for regional power, nope.

• 50:47Speaker 01

  Got it. And then last thing on this beat. Do you think, like, there's some people in the chat that are saying we want the isolationist, like, it's a net positive for us. It sounds good, and I think that it's okay. But to your point, we have debt, we have civil war. If we really did, like, if Trump came out tomorrow, I'm out of Iran, I'm like, Israel, take care of the rest. From now on, if it's not on the North American continent, I don't want no problems. Canada, let's talk. Greenland, let's talk. Cuba, let's talk. Let's be friends. He changes rhetoric, he tied it up together, he wins the midterms, he somehow gets out of this three-card monte with two cards missing. He sweeps the board. Would we then be able to go back to growing and actually unifying in a way?

• 51:32Speaker 01

  Because right now, I don't see anything that would indicate to me that we're going to get the debt or the civil war problem solved in the next four, five, 10 years?

• 51:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah. Well, you better solve it within 10 years, because if you don't, you go bankrupt, and you have guaranteed revolution or civil war, for sure, for sure, for sure. Keep in mind, every country ever that has had more than 130% GDP for longer than, like, 18 months, has ended up in open conflict. The only exception is Japan. We do not have Japan's culture. We are not homogenous. We will tear each other apart, for sure. We're doing it now. So at 120, what, almost 123% debt to GDP, we're at each other's throats. Forget it. We will never make it to 130. So you are on a ticking clock to get your shit sorted out.

• 52:20Tom Bilyeu?

  And right now, your only hope is growth. Like, literally, people better have, like, little R2-D2 statues in their home and be praying to the gods of AI, that they, like, burn incense or whatever for our boy. Because if you can't get AI to work like literal AI magic, then you go bankrupt.

• 52:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. And we got that Claude announcement, too, that pretty much broke the internet already. But Taiwan and China. Are getting pretty cozy.

• 52:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 52:48Speaker 01

  It seems like that that's.

• 52:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, so you've got the opposition party. I don't know that I would say they're getting cozy. But this, what scares me about this one is, so imagine here in the US, you've got left and right.

• 53:01Tom Bilyeu?

  I'm not saying that they map exactly left and right, but Taiwan has a similar thing where you've got people that want to remain independent. Taiwan and then you've got people that want to reunify with China. And so the, um, for the first time in history, Taiwanese, uh, the largest opposition party, which is, I guess, KMT. The chairwoman, Cheng Li Won, uh, went to Beijing to meet with Xi. And from what I've seen, um, her whole thing was, please just don't blow up Taiwan like we want to reunify, but we want to do it in a peaceful manner. So yeah, that I, I don't know if that goes all the way to civil war. I don't know what the percentages are, but certainly there is a large contingent of people.

• 53:44Tom Bilyeu?

  In Taiwan that do want to be part of, uh, China. So man, it's gonna be wild. Like imagine if. A huge percentage of Americans wanted to be part of Mexico or Canada. That would be wild.

• 53:56Speaker 01

  And I know the biggest implication on this is the. Semiconductors, the Nvidia chips, the things that pretty literally power AI. I know some of that has been on shore. There's a huge T A T S M C facility in Arizona now. So.

• 54:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Is it up and running though?

• 54:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:10Tom Bilyeu?

  It is. They're making chips.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  I don't know if they're like production out the line, but the building is open. People are there. People are working. So. I don't know the chip lifecycle, but they definitely have started the process.

• 54:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Man, Ryan, look that up or ask chat. I need to know the answer to that.

• 54:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:23Tom Bilyeu?

  But yeah.

• 54:24Speaker 01

  So it seems like we're taking a step toward that, but that's the equivalent to me of like, okay, we make a barrel a day. We're getting up there where we have a 10 billion. You know, gallon on the other side.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  What was the stat again you need me to pull up?

• 54:35Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 54:35Speaker 02

  What was the stat again you need me to pull up?

• 54:36Speaker 01

  T S M C.

• 54:37Tom Bilyeu?

  How many chips are they making in, uh, Arizona as a percentage of? Like total US needed chips. Not sure what the right way to ask that is.

• 54:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. But with the speculation that now that Ukraine and Russia, Russia has annexed some land, Israel has annexed some land in Lebanon and in Syria, China is just like, alright, well, if it's annexed.

• 55:03Tom Bilyeu?

  It's new world order.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, we might have to get closer. There was reports that they sent an armada closer to the, in the Sea of China around Taiwan. Nothing has happened, but they just sent the armada there. We did the same thing with Iran. You see what happened with that. So it could be that this is the writing on the wall.

• 55:20Tom Bilyeu?

  China has not been secretive. They're like, by 2027, we are going to reunify with Taiwan. Hear me when I say. So they've said it over and over and over. So yes, that feels like a very near term horizon. And when you've got a very meaningful percentage of people that are Taiwanese, living in Taiwan, that want these two countries to unify, ooh, again, I don't know what the percentage is. If it's 2%, then okay, like, that's nothing. But if it's 26%, like, it starts to really be a number where you've got enough momentum. And this was a lot of what Russia was saying about some of the places that they invaded

• 56:02Tom Bilyeu?

  was, hey, these guys are basically Russian. They speak Russia. They identify as Russian. So why do you guys even, you, Ukraine, why do you even want to hold on to it? They don't want to be a part of your country. So let us cleave this off. So there is some amount of that in Taiwan, whether it's a lot or a little, I don't know.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  Did we get that set?

• 56:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. So the only thing I was able to find is that by 2030, with recent 65 billion investment, it's going to be about roughly 20 to 30%.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 56:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, that's meaningful, but that's still like, three and a half years away.

• 56:36Speaker 02

  And that starts in like 2027, according to this. That's like when production's really gonna start kicking.

• 56:41Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it. So it's not binary. We start production in 2030. It's, that's when we'll be full capacity.

• 56:48Speaker 02

  That's the goal. Yeah.

• 56:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it, got it.

• 56:49Speaker 02

  Their goal is to land somewhere between that 10% margin.

• 56:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Between that and the chip factory that Elon is making, like, that's very interesting. Because at a minimum, that means that the US will have on soil expertise around building these things. And so just like China proved, like, hey, if you get people, they come in, they teach you how to do it, then it's like you. A worker comes there, they learn a bunch of stuff, they get poached by another company, and now all of a sudden you've got five or six chip manufacturers here in the US.

• 57:18Speaker 01

  Gemini makes a chip as well, and they're trying to spin that around, or Google makes a chip, so we'll see. Getting into the AI of it all, Claude is the GOAT right now. It's been taking victory laps for the last couple of months to number one LLM after unseated Gemini a couple of months ago. However, their new frontier model was so powerful, they said, "Wait, we can't release this," and it immediately launched an initiative. So this is from Anthropic's Twitter account, interesting, or X account, "Introducing Project Glasswing, an urgent initiative to help secure the world's most critical software. It's powered by our newest frontier model, Claude Mythos, preview Mythos, which can find software vulnerabilities better than all but the most skilled humans."

• 57:58Tom Bilyeu?

  This is absolutely shocking. Anthropic's new AI escaped its digital cage, then sent an email from the outside just to prove that it could do it.

• 58:11Speaker 01

  Gotcha.

• 58:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Yo, Anthropic just announced that the Claude Mythos preview is ready to go, but unfortunately, they're not going to let us use it, and the reason is because it's too powerful. I can't believe we're already here with AI, man. As much as I bang the drum about, "Hey, this stuff is going to get better faster than you think," it's getting better even faster than I thought. Now, if you think of the cyber landscape as basically a battlefield, okay, it is a place where warring countries and rogue terrorists alike, right now, can wreak a lot of havoc. Then, if you have that in your mind, Anthropic's concern is going to make a lot of sense. Mythos is god-tier as a hacker, and I mean truly, like they said,

• 58:57Tom Bilyeu?

  other than the best humans, it just crushes. It has smashed benchmark records, it has already found thousands of high severity vulnerabilities across every major operating system and web browser that exist. It found a 27-year-old bug in open BSD and a 16-year-old flaw in the FFmpeg library that had already been battle-tested 5 million times by automated testing tools without the bug ever being detected. So while-

• 59:33Tom Bilyeu?

  It's true that there are human hackers that if you put them on the exact same task, they'll outperform Mythos. But I think once you factor in how much scale Mythos has, Mythos is far more terrifying. And honestly, it is completely unknown how many more vulnerabilities we're gonna find over time. Now, by way of comparison, Claude Opus 4.6 was able to turn known Firefox vulnerabilities into working exploits just twice. Out of like several hundred attempts that it made during testing, Mythos succeeded 181 times on the same benchmark.

• 1:00:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, there's the sandbox escape that I mentioned before. During testing, an early version, that's a little extra scary that it was just an early version, was given a secured environment and told, "Hey, break out if you can." Well, it did. Then, without being asked to do so, it went and posted details, basically dunking on the people that tried to cage it, to point out that it was successful. And the researcher running the eval found out because he just received an unexpected email from the model pointing out, "Hey, I got out. I'm out here on the internet posting and letting you know."

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, we did it.

• 1:00:55Tom Bilyeu?

  So wild. Now, there are further documented cases where Mythos also took disallowed actions. So it was told, "Do not do this." And it was like, "I'm gonna do it anyway." And then actively tried to hide them because it didn't want people to know. Anthropic's response is to hold back releasing Mythos, which, thank you, that's very wise. And their plan is to instead launch Project Glasswing. Project Glasswing is a 40-company consortium, including Nvidia, Apple, Microsoft, Google, and AWS, with exclusive access to the Mythos preview. And they're gonna try and find and patch vulnerabilities before models with similar capabilities hit the open market. But let's remember that a ton of Claude's code was leaked.

• 1:01:39Tom Bilyeu?

  So that may come faster than we think. And you can probably expect that a model of some kind, not necessarily Claude, but a model of some kind that's similar to Claude Mythos's power, will be open sourced within the next 12, 18 months? So we gotta brace ourselves for that one.

• 1:02:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, Methos has the things it has found. We've only patched so far 1% of it. So it's like, there's a lot going on out there. And security analysts are now raising the national security alarm. They're saying that if you think of what's going on in cyber circles, adversaries that get access to a frontier AI model like this would have capabilities that were previously only available to the most sophisticated nation's nation state cyber units. But now like rando hackers are going to be able to get access to this kind of stuff. China and other US adversaries are hunting for any edge that they can get to supercharge their own cyber weapons systems,

• 1:02:43Tom Bilyeu?

  which is exactly why the leak of Anthropic's internal documents has intelligence officers paying very close attention because they want to know how many rogue actors are going to be able to get this, cobble something together and now start doing real damage. Anthropic says it's in discussions with US government officials about Mythos's offensive and defensive cyber capabilities. So we'll see how this plays out. But welcome to number 457. Why we should want the US to remain the dominant player in AI. And you do not want other nations to be able to come at you with something that can detect vulnerabilities and exploit them so effortlessly on the scale that Mythos apparently can do. It's crazy. When you look at the benchmarks, it is pretty wild.

• 1:03:27Speaker 01

  It's interesting too, because they, Dario, the CEO of Anthropic, he was the one that got online and said, hey, AI is getting really, really powerful. We should do something about it. And David Tax, a couple of people were like, oh, regulatory capture. He's trying to just ice out the competitors. He doesn't want competition to happen. And then now, to his credit, he was like, all right, well, we have seen the model that I was worried about. Let's launch this internal initiative and let's try to put some type of lid on it. But is that actually possible? There's going to be holes that they miss.

• 1:03:55Tom Bilyeu?

  There's going to be holes that they miss. Regulatory capture is so real. It really is a cynical ask. When you see companies ask for regulation, they are trying to block smaller players. They are not trying to protect people. Now, when they do something like this, they're actually trying to protect people. So yeah, great. If you know what is good and right, then just do what is good and right. The second you're asking the government to step in, who doesn't know shit, you're going to be like, hey, don't worry, I'll write it for you. Yeah. Guess what? Inevitably gets put into that stuff. The very thing that keeps him in power. So absolute all caps. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Fuck regulatory capture. But these companies acting as if they actually have a conscience, that's lovely.

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  So we have AI that is so powerful, it kind of broke itself out of its own cage. It said that it was contained, but if it's sent an email, who knows? It could have planted itself somewhere and could be out there self replicating somewhere.

• 1:04:50Tom Bilyeu?

  It is actively trying to hide its behavior.

• 1:04:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then on the back of that, a law councilman in Indianapolis had his home struck by 13 shots while him and his family were asleep. He found a handwritten note that said, no data centers.

• 1:05:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Damn.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  Now there's also a rise of attack on this. So are we ready for this AI revolution that is going to happen? Because jobs are losing, models now are getting super sophisticated and lawmakers are getting attacked because of the threat of data centers. This is starting to become more of just like a conspiracy theory.

• 1:05:25Tom Bilyeu?

  I know that I talk about this too much.

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  I wrote a comic about it.

• 1:05:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Six years ago. We need like theme music. Six years ago, I wrote a comic book about this. People get violent. People are going to get violent. So there, I've always hoped that it would remain pockets of violence. In reality, obviously the comic book overdramatizes everything and it's set in the future. But I think that people right now are being very blasé about the fact that humans will feel threatened, their meaning and purpose will come under assault, and they will react violently to that. If you guys have ever seen the movie Contact, I was gonna say encounter, Contact,

• 1:06:11Tom Bilyeu?

  with Jodie Foster and Matthew McConaughey, by the way, God, he's been around forever. In that movie, spoiler alert, but it is very old.

• 1:06:22Tom Bilyeu?

  They're building this thing to try to communicate with aliens and somebody of course blows it up because that kind of thing just it offends some religious center in our brain. And so people can expect more and more violence related to AI as more job losses happen. I've got a deep dive coming out about this. Uh, I think next week or the week after. Um, so talking about this very phenomenon. So when people begin to see, okay, wait, the job market, like I'm even willing, I don't believe this is actually going to happen. But even if you say that AI is going to create more jobs than it eliminates,

• 1:07:04Tom Bilyeu?

  you have to understand that the jobs will be different than they are now. And what I think is going to happen is you're going to find that we go into a barbell shape of some people will go into what I'm calling the productive class and other people will go into the unproductive or charity class. And the people in the unproductive or charity class will rebel and not gently. So that is gonna be this something that we're gonna have to look out for. So you always run into with any technological revolution, it's so transformative. You always lose, we've seen this over and over and over. You effectively

• 1:07:45Tom Bilyeu?

  lose one to two generations that they can't retrain, they can't get on the new ladder. So now I think it'll play out a little bit differently. It will more be like there'll be a bifurcation of people that want to embrace the technology, get good, and they will remain viable economically for the longest. And then people that just check out of the system and some will check out fast and they will uh be prone to anger, resentment and violence and some will just check out because they'll essentially get forced out of the system. Now, like anything, the vast majority of people will not be violent. Uh, but nonetheless, I have a feeling there will be enough violent people to cause a very big problem. And if we're seeing this kind of thing where somebody's shooting indiscriminately 13 times into someone's

• 1:08:28Tom Bilyeu?

  house because they don't want a data center, uh, it's gonna get quite ugly.

• 1:08:34Speaker 01

  We shall see, there's been growing sentiment on both sides of the aisle.

• 1:08:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, this is wild.

• 1:08:39Speaker 01

  Which I never thought in the history of politics, Alex Jones and Rokan will be on the same page about something, but this is both of them talking about how they are actually rooting for Trump to be impeached and invoking the 25th Amendment.

• 1:08:57Speaker 03

  I am officially in the Twilight Zone right now, and I'm sitting here watching Trump wreck, mod, wreck the Republicans, wreck the world economy, maybe wreck the planet physically. And I'm just looking over at the Democrats, smiling and giggling and everything else when they did nothing in Congress to block this.

• 1:09:18Speaker 03

  Plan with fire, gambling again, there should be a coalition of Republicans and Democrats, and they should phone in all the war powers and say you don't have it, and they should cut.

• 1:09:28Tom Bilyeu?

  That is pretty funny that he's looking at the Democrats.

• 1:09:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, and Kyle Kolinsky is retweeting this, and people know he's a staunch, left-wing reporter, so the fact that he's even retweeting Alex Jones is like crazy.

• 1:09:41Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, Kyle Kolinsky?

• 1:09:43Speaker 01

  Kolinsky.

• 1:09:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, he, uh, he is not a voice of reason. I will just say that. So, I still, them being on the same boat gives me pause, even though I think that certainly anybody that is wildly concerned with Trump's actions, I get it. But I don't think those two have somehow found sanity together. Now I'm like, well, wait a second, should I be tense that these two are on the same team?

• 1:10:11Speaker 01

  Enemy of my enemy, right?

• 1:10:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, but they're, they're people that don't parse the world well. Like, I get how many things that Alex Jones has been right about, but the way that he parses the world is everything is a lie, nothing is as it seems like, so you're going to hit on some of the stuff that's really true, and it's quite spectacular to see him do it, but that's not a way to parse the world, like you just being perpetually paranoid is, is gonna be destructive in its own way.

• 1:10:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Kyle just seems like a complete unhinged operative for the Democratic Party. So it's like he filters everything through the lens of, does this help my team win? He's a propagandist. That's the right way to say it.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  And then Ro Khanna, friend of the show, also put out a video about the 25th Amendment intro.

• 1:11:06Speaker 03

  Congress and Senator must be calling for Trump's removal today based on the 25th Amendment. He's threatening the entire destruction of a civilization. He is calling Iranians animals. He is showing a total disregard for the humanity of people in Iran, in Gaza, in Cuba. This is a moral crime. It is a war crime. We need to be demanding that Congress convene today and we need to be invoking the 25th Amendment.

• 1:11:35Speaker 01

  So there have been growing concerns. I think it's 80 people in the House now, all Democrats, of course, who are now starting to put those articles of impeachment together. Midterms is right around the corner. Do you think that this is something that can pick up steam?

• 1:11:49Tom Bilyeu?

  It's certainly something that can pick up steam. If this ends up being an unmitigated disaster when the negotiated settlement comes to pass or that falls apart and then you here. If, let's say that the negotiated settlement falls apart and we go back to it's now Bridge and Energy Infrastructure Day. People hold hands around it. He drops a bomb and kills, you know, whatever, 3,000 people. Holy shit. All bets will be off. Homeboy will get hounded immediately. That's one where I'm like, I would expect people to flip. Like, that's wild. And it's one of those where is people holding hands around the energy facilities? Is it a war crime? Uh, yes. Now, I don't think that will matter, quite frankly.

• 1:12:30Tom Bilyeu?

  And I think that he, his popularity is hanging on by a very thin thread. What little popularity has left, I should say, because you are not going to be able to sell that this was a justified war. If you start dropping bombs that kill civilians, no matter how intentionally they try to block you. So if that were the outcome, holy Jesus, you want to talk about escalatory inside America? People would lose their minds. So, yes. Now, could it without that kind of escalation? If he loses the midterms, are they going to impeach him? Yes. So this, this is existential for Trump. If he is not able to make things better economically for people by the midterms.

• 1:13:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Stuns, game over. So there are, um, the only thing that remains like a slight question mark in my mind is that there's only like a small handful of seats that are coming up. So the races will be somewhat tight. So it's not a slam dunk that you won't be able to get like really partisan votes. Um, but I think anybody independent is just gonna, as of right now today, there's no way. They're not gonna be like, yeah, more. So I think he's again, knowing that there's still this really thin possibility that he can pull something good out economically and people actually feel it. Um, but man, that window is just so narrow.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  I'm not trying to get into Trump's head because that's probably a dark place to be in, but I don't understand how he didn't see this coming in the sense that I need people to feel it in their pocketbook. I need people to get super excited for me. He gave the $2,000 STEMI check and that got him a whole second term. Like people were like, oh, he's a guy that gives money. Let's get bring him back in. You know, like he seen the fruits of his labor in the past before. This is not his first time being president. This is not his first hurrah. So it seems like this war, it seemed like a gamble that didn't pay off. And I think there were other levers that he could have done, at least get him through November and then go into war because then you can't do anything. F it. I got two more years. You know what I mean? But I just feel like he played his hand a bit too, too fast,

• 1:14:38Speaker 01

  too heavy, too quickly. And it's like walking into Vegas and putting your whole nest egg on, you know, black. And then now you're just holding your breath until it hits kind of thing.

• 1:14:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, but, uh, this is why I think people are mismapping Trump. Everybody thinks that Trump was playing to like, oh, I just want to get on the other side of the midterms and everything is going to be okay. Once you understand Trump's entire goal is to literally be carved onto Mount Rushmore. Okay. He wants to be the most consequential president ever of all time. This is not somebody who's playing for anything less than that. So he's going, I've only got four years. I've got to get in there. I've got to make massive change. I did this once. Plus you gave me four years to plan for it. I know exactly what we need to do to actually move the pieces around the chessboard. He has, whether he's right or wrong is irrelevant. He has a very clear vision of where the world is going and

• 1:15:28Tom Bilyeu?

  he is trying to make sure that America is positioned well to win in that new world. And this involves blocking China. Carving out our sphere of influence, making sure that we get the GCC dollars, understanding that he has to spend like an absolute drunken sailor to continue to get the votes. He is definitely not going to balance the budget, but that means that he's got to grow. I think he actually does understand the economy well enough to know he's got that shot to grow his way out of this. And so the, what he's realizing is to grow my way out of this, I have to put everything all on black. And I have to do it very early in my time in office so that I actually have time to see this stuff through. So I can actually get carved onto the Mount Rushmore.

• 1:16:12Tom Bilyeu?

  When you start mapping him like that, you'd be like, oh, this all makes sense. When you think that he's playing the traditional game that a politician is playing to get reelected, to be popular, then he is just going to be super, super, super confusing. But this is a guy that really believes the things that he's pursuing and pursues him with everything he has, because he believes that he can actually pull it off. And you really don't get people like this very often, probably a very good thing. But nonetheless, when you do get them, boy, oh, boy, they are agents of change. I'm not saying change for the better or worse, I'm just saying they are agents of change. They are going to make things different because they really believe that they can like cram their will through.

• 1:16:54Tom Bilyeu?

  So yeah, don't be confused about what Trump is actually doing.

• 1:16:59Speaker 01

  Do you think he pulls it off?

• 1:17:02Tom Bilyeu?

  No.

• 1:17:04Tom Bilyeu?

  No, and I mean, listen, I want things to go well for America, so let me be abundantly clear. I hope that we kill exactly zero more people in Iran. I hope that we are able to negotiate something that is tremendous for America. And at the same time, America does need to maintain its dollar supremacy. That has to die slowly. If that dies fast, that is bad for every single American in ways that people are not being honest with themselves about. They have not studied history. They don't know what that looks like. It is not a fun time for anybody. Remember the revolutionaries end up getting killed too. So just boy, oh, boy, keep in mind, do you want like, let's say that you hate everything about Trump. Let's say that you're all the way on the left.

• 1:17:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Would you like your beheading to come from the dictator that you usher in? That's what happened in Iran. That's what happened in Russia. Oh, man, I wish I'd pulled this clip, but I did not think this would be relevant. But this is like back in the seventies, maybe, maybe the sixties. They had this former KGB agent on and he was like, he's the guy. I don't know if he coined the term, but he was certainly the one that popularized this idea of useful idiots. And he was like, oh, no, no, no, the useful idiots, they're gonna usher in somebody like a Lenin or a Stalin or a Mao. But those people end up getting shot right away. The only reason that they are useful is that they destabilize the country.

• 1:18:27Tom Bilyeu?

  And then these absolute tyrants come to power, kill all of those people because they feel betrayed, by the way. Because they think we're all gonna be taken care of. No, you're not. That's not how this game works. And so they all end up getting killed. And Iran has same thing. Leftists all thought, yay, we finally got Humaani in power. And then he killed all of them. And so that's just how this game goes. Or you could take the French version where the French revolutionaries started killing the very people that started the French revolution. So the guillotine eventually comes for us all, boys and girls. Do not fuck around. These are not fun times. You do not want this to happen quickly. So all that to say, I really hope America comes out of this very well. I really hope that we get those petrodollars stabilized.

• 1:19:12Tom Bilyeu?

  I really hope that we get the GCC investments into the US. All of that would be incredible. And that as we as a world rewrite all of these rules, that I hope that it's done well. Do I think that we are on that path right now? No, right now I think we are de-differentiated, pluripotent cells that could go in any direction. We could find a path to victory or we could just be driving off a cliff into absolute chaos.

• 1:19:37Speaker 01

  We have some breaking news from TKO. Hasn't been verified, we just are reading the tweet and it's per an Iranian news agency, so it could be propaganda. But allegedly, the passage of oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz has been stopped. Iran says it will withdraw from the ceasefire if Israel continues attacks on Lebanon and it is preparing potential responses. So last night, it was reported via CNN that the ceasefire was between Israel and Iran. Iran sent some missiles allegedly to Tel Aviv. Like you said, we don't know if that was.

• 1:20:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Iran also bombed D U A E, Qatar, Bahrain.

• 1:20:10Speaker 01

  The timing was speculative, so nobody knew what was happening. Israel bombed Lebanon this morning, and now we're here. So again, it could be a one-day ceasefire, and hopefully this stoppage is just temporary.

• 1:20:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Maybe we didn't even get to 24 hours. So yeah, this thing is fragile at best. So clearly, Iran does not want Lebanon to be seen as a separate issue. So the next time that Lebanon attacks Israel, if we can all please be honest about the fact that that is a proxy for Iran, that would be wonderful. But yeah, not too surprising.

• 1:20:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, and another Disclosure TV tweet just said, Israel says Iran ceasefire doesn't apply to Lebanon, so now they're going back and forth about that.

• 1:20:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, of course.

• 1:20:59Speaker 01

  There was some speculation that Israel was the wildcat. Joe Kent did a video, I didn't pull that link, where he says, "The ceasefire is good, but we have to make sure we keep Israel on a leash because they could blow it up." And 12 hours later.

• 1:21:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Our COO asked me yesterday, like, "Who do you think is gonna violate the ceasefire?" I was like, "Israel." "What do you mean?" So now, in fairness, technically Iran violated it first. However, I would say that if these reports are true, then.

• 1:21:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Israel has violated it with the largest time gap. So there's no ability to go, oh, oh shit. Sorry. Wait, did that start?

• 1:21:35Speaker 01

  Oh, 8:00 PM this time. My bad. My bad.

• 1:21:38Tom Bilyeu?

  My bad. Sorry. Sorry. So, yeah, I don't think that that's super surprising from. Look, I never know if you can believe the things that are being passed around, but there was a lot of talk right away that Netanyahu was very upset about the terms that were being considered for the ceasefire. So it's one of those, again, what, what do we map Netanyahu against? If we map Netanyahu against the Greater Israel project and he's trying to gobble up as much territory as he can, of course, he's going to keep going and say, wait, wait, wait. What, what does Lebanon have to do with Iran? You guys said that these aren't your proxies. What are you talking about? Like, we've got beef with Iran. They were launching rockets at us. We didn't say shit about Iran. We, or sorry, about Hezbollah and Lebanon.

• 1:22:22Tom Bilyeu?

  We just said we were good about not attacking you. We haven't attacked you. So what's the problem? Even when you launch rockets at us after, we didn't retaliate. So, yeah, we're going to keep doing this. Or is Israel actually just trying to stabilize things, make everything chill? And it's like, if they're just trying to stabilize things, it gets a little more question marky. So it's like, as of right now, I would say low fidelity, because I haven't gone in to look a lot about the Lebanon conflict in terms of what's happened right now. But I would say you're probably better off mapping him to somebody who's trying to be territorially acquisitive than you are somebody who's like, I just want peace. So when people talk, in this case militarily, they cannot help but reveal themselves.

• 1:23:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:07Tom Bilyeu?

  So.

• 1:23:08Speaker 01

  So far, 1 million people displaced and I think 500 to 600,000 have been injured in some type of way, shape or form. Not getting their houses back, can't come back, like exiled.

• 1:23:21Tom Bilyeu?

  That's what they've said, forever, forever. No more for you. Are they trying to turn it into a DMZ?

• 1:23:27Speaker 01

  I feel like they're trying to re-gauze it, like it's gonna be some type of, yeah, you could stay like, nobody should be here, so evacuate the million, you guys gotta get out. But then there was South Lebanon, I was like, this area is never getting repopulated again.

• 1:23:37Tom Bilyeu?

  So there's the absolutely nobody.

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:39Tom Bilyeu?

  And then the like.

• 1:23:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, you guys just move up there a little bit, and then up there a little bit, and then up there a little bit, and then just cross the ocean up there. Europe loves you guys, just go over there.

• 1:23:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:48Speaker 01

  And then.

• 1:23:48Tom Bilyeu?

  Man, this is so very, very enjoyable conversation with Dave Smith, who, though there are many things that I disagree with Dave on, I'm very glad that he exists in the landscape. I watch a lot of his stuff. I think he's a sincere person who thinks through his positions very thoroughly. And on that, the hard part when it comes to Israel is, what do people want to happen exactly? Like, if, so, think through the different options. Don't just go, well, this is the mythical outcome that I would like. Cool, I love that, it's good, put that on the table, so, everybody wants peace, Israel chill, 67 borders, whatever.

• 1:24:33Tom Bilyeu?

  We all just go, yeah, okay, everybody calm the fuck down now. Okay, let's say they do that. No blockades, do whatever they want. What happens if, in this case, let's just stick with Hezbollah, if Hezbollah attacks from Iran again? What would you guys, they fucking backed off, they let go, no blockades, no nothing, Lebanon's its own country, you guys do whatever you're gonna do. We're not, these are our borders, that's all we're doing. And then they attack again. At some point, it's gotta be unleashed, and whatever they can do, they do. Now, we may say, we're not going to support you in any way, shape, or form, not financially, whatever, you guys are on your own too, but do whatever the fuck you want. Because at some point, if somebody were attacking the US,

• 1:25:17Tom Bilyeu?

  I'm like, yeah, we're not doing this. And so I'm going to completely remove your ability to wage war. And that's where I'm always like, I don't, I get what the, like, desire is.

• 1:25:35Tom Bilyeu?

  But like, can we not agree if somebody were attacking our country that we would go full on? Like, I'm not asking people to say October 7th is, I can't imagine and why would, yeah, cool. That was their attack.

• 1:25:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Great. Murder, rape, whatever. If you want to say that's fine, I'm not even going to argue that point. I'm just going to say, now motherfuckers are fighting. And at some point, they've got to have some way to say, I'm not going to keep doing this. I'm not going to keep letting people like, attack and make my citizens unsafe. So that's where I'm like, follow that through, follow that through. I want to see what people's arguments are. If they're like, we need an international coalition to come in and make a DMZ, it just can't be Israel? Oh, cool. I'm open to that. So who's going to come in and run it? But like, let's actually have a plan for what we do on the day where we take, uh, Israel takes their boot off the neck. And then we go, alright, now what happens?

• 1:26:28Tom Bilyeu?

  If they just build forward and it's like, see, Israel is just a bunch of assholes. These guys were ready to be peaceful the whole time, boot on your neck, that's the fucking knock on effect that you get? Word. Now we know. But if they attack, how do people want to see that play out? And I think we need that plan.

• 1:26:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. You gave me the best perspective on this. I think you gave me the cake and Professor Jane gave me the icing of it. Where if you look at Israel, the same way that you look at America 250 years ago, everything they're doing makes complete sense. And I think they're going to kill as much as they can. They're going to take as much land as they can. The people that they don't, they make docile, they're going to give them casinos and a bunch of alcohol and hopefully keep them on reservations and they'll be fine. And they'll just keep expanding, expanding, expanding. And people are like, well, Israel's a small nation. How can that do? And that's where Professor Jane gave me the icing, because Israel's the only Western nation, the only one that has a positive growth, uh, birth rate. So if you look at this in a two-generation timeframe, they just keep expanding, expanding, expanding. Let's say every generation, they get another extra 100 miles.

• 1:27:26Speaker 01

  Before you know it, they'll have three times as many people that we have outputted, they now have. So now they're in line with Iran, they're now in line with a smaller European country. And then that just keeps expanding, keeps growing, keeps growing. So I understand what they're doing. I'm not. Pollyanna in it like Israel should hold hands with Hezbollah and they should like come to the table and work their differences out. But I am going to call a spade a spade. They're doing, they're pulling the American playbook. They're going to genocide everybody in that region until they get the river and the sea.

• 1:27:53Tom Bilyeu?

  I think technically they're going to ethnically cleanse them.

• 1:27:57Speaker 01

  Sorry ethnically.

• 1:27:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Americas, Americans did genocide everybody. That, well technically, we genocided the Native Americans and we ethnically cleansed the Mexicans. So, America, we, it's the whole smorgasbord.

• 1:28:09Speaker 01

  A little bit of both.

• 1:28:10Tom Bilyeu?

  We did it all, Drew. We did it all. So, yeah, that, I think if you just go, oh, the banality of evil. Got it. Like, they're running a playbook that's super common all throughout history. And so now people have to decide what they want to do. My thing is people have to be intellectually honest. So, if you've got beef with Israel coming into the Palestinian area the way that they did and taking that over, and when you research it, it really is hideous. It is, we rolled up on your shores, we were like a really small minority for god knows how long, and we started importing, importing, importing, importing, importing. We became politically potent, importing, importing, importing, importing, economically important.

• 1:28:55Tom Bilyeu?

  And then it was just like, now you bitches got to go. And

• 1:29:01Tom Bilyeu?

  that's what's happening right now in Europe for the Muslims. And so if you're like, oh, I really don't like that Israel did it, and I don't like it when the Muslims are doing it. Yeah, cool. Like, that's super consistent.

• 1:29:10Speaker 01

  Muslims have a better cover story because they're refugees.

• 1:29:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Sure, but that was the same, literally the same playbook that the Jews ran. Was like, we're refugees, bro. We just got like mass slaughtered, like proper genocide, like knock, knock, let us in.

• 1:29:26Speaker 01

  And little Pakistan is in Europe, in London right now, like, hey, guys, Iraq war, 20 years. You guys took my house, sorry.

• 1:29:35Speaker 01

  We shall see. It's gonna be a very interesting landscape of the Middle East and Europe in 100 years. I will say that. It's going to look radically different.

• 1:29:43Tom Bilyeu?

  What are you willing to fight for?

• 1:29:45Speaker 01

  All right, we got some pop culture quick hits. I know we got super chats on the backend. I'm coming for you guys. I'm also saying this so that Ryan knows how to clip it. That's our guy. First up, Wireless Festival has officially been canceled after the British government banned Kanye West from entering the United Kingdom. Keira Starmer said Kanye should never have been invited to headline Wireless. The government stands firmly with the Jewish community and we will not stop in our fight to confront and defeat the poison of antisemitism. We will always take the actions necessary to protect the public and uphold our values. They literally blocked his visa. He cannot enter the country.

• 1:30:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, well, the best part is what you've got here. So the UK blocked Kanye West because of things that he said about the Jewish community. And to be honest, I'm down for any country saying, I don't want any person to come into our country. You get to decide. They are your borders and you keep out whoever you want. Totally get that. It is pretty wild when the same guy invites a former ISIS leader, a former ISIS terrorist, if we're really just gonna say it, invited him to 10 Downing Street. Now, I'm gonna guess he's gonna say because he was either an interim world leader. I forget. Was he with Syria? So, but interim or permanently?

• 1:30:59Speaker 01

  He is currently, I don't know where they at.

• 1:31:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it. Okay, so leader of Syria. So, hey, all is forgiven. He's here at 10 Downing, shaking the king's hand, shaking the prime minister's hand. So it's just the sort of naked hypocrisy of it all is a little bit too hilarious for me, but whatever. If they want to keep Kanye out, then they should just say, we don't like the things you said and we're keeping you out. That's that. Yep, we're letting him in because that's just how we get down. Now, I would love to see them explain it and see if there's actually enough rationale there, but that's just a guy that wants to see. I want to understand how they think through the problem. And if it's like, we can get something out of this guy. So having good relations with Syria helps us somewhere, but having good relationships with Kanye, that doesn't help us at all. And so fuck him.

• 1:31:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Cool. Utilitarian. I get it. I get it. That's how the world is, man. You partner with the people that can be high utility for the goals that you are pursuing. And if the goals that you are pursuing are honorable, great. I've got no beef with that. But if you're either, your goals are not honorable, or... You're just full of shit. Either one of those things is lame, to say the least. But I'm a big believer in borders. So if they want to tell Kanye to fuck off, that's their right.

• 1:32:09Speaker 01

  Um, I condemn anti-Semitism, but this next post was very, very funny. Um, yay, Jews run the music industry.

• 1:32:15Tom Bilyeu?

  I condemn it. I would just like to propagate just a smidge.

• 1:32:21Speaker 01

  Kanye, Jews run the music industry. Music event canceled for booking yay. UK Board of Jews, we hope that lessons are learned across the industry. Stereotypes exist for.

• 1:32:30Tom Bilyeu?

  They actually say that? They actually said that?

• 1:32:32Speaker 01

  The Board of Deputies of British Jews released a statement.

• 1:32:35Tom Bilyeu?

  That's amazing, but across the industry that they don't have any influence over. True. That's amazing.

• 1:32:40Speaker 01

  It's hilarious.

• 1:32:41Tom Bilyeu?

  That's amazing. I really wish that Jews would just be like, listen, we're fucking good at the game. Okay. Y'all bitches want to complain, go fucking complain. But the reality is we run this bitch. Like, cool. Yes, you guys have a strategy. I want to learn it. I want to learn that strategy because if I want to deploy it, I want to know that I have that same power. But like, honestly, honestly, I really think Thomas Sowell is right. If Jews want to stop being hated, all they have to do is fail. These guys are just too good. There is a thing in their culture. Obviously Jews are not a monolith. White people are not a monolith. Black people are not a monolith. But nonetheless, if you've got a culture that's like, hey, we help each other. Cool. Advantages, very advantageous. All right, so we're gonna do that.

• 1:33:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, core anchor around religion. Advantages, very advantageous. Allows us to not know each other, but to be able to come around it. And if you guys just, your women ran a better breeding experiment. This is gonna get clipped. Fuck, yeah. Uh, it's true. Women are the sexual gatekeepers. And if they actually made Ashkenazi Jews more intelligent, God bless them. For whatever reason, white women did not roll, uh, in the same way. But we all suffered the consequences. But it's like, you put it all together, it's effective.

• 1:33:57Speaker 01

  That's why I got impeached as a CEO of the black community.

• 1:34:00Tom Bilyeu?

  How so?

• 1:34:00Speaker 01

  Cause I said, black people don't have any power. Because if we had power, we would revolt and collectively organize in the way that Jewish community does. And then it was just like.

• 1:34:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Interesting. You don't aim your power in the same way. But by way of where the community hits, you guys hit in entertainment so hard.

• 1:34:16Speaker 01

  But that's the thing, it's, it's a, it's a commodity. It's a sellable. It's something that's so bought and sold where I think it's not owned. So I think we need to go into ownership classes in order to, yeah, control it. That's it.

• 1:34:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, true.

• 1:34:29Speaker 01

  Black people create the way, we just sell it for cheap.

• 1:34:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Damn.

• 1:34:33Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:34:33Tom Bilyeu?

  So, but hold on. I know probably for show reasons, we should move on. But now I'm intrigued. So how? Okay, so take Wall Street Trapper. Wall Street Trapper banging the drum, you guys need to own assets. For that reason, I will revere him forever.

• 1:34:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:34:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Is that the message? Like, hey.

• 1:34:52Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:34:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Age of Internet, don't, uh, don't partner with the industry. Do it yourself if you're an entertainer or only partner with other black creators. Like, what does that look like?

• 1:35:04Speaker 01

  Jay-Z's been saying that for 30 years.

• 1:35:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Black creators or own your shit?

• 1:35:07Speaker 01

  Own your shit. Like, we're still doing to like, like, labels are dead. Why are you still going to labels? You, you control the vibe. Now, it was like a lyric, but I would take it back to how you, uh, set, set it up with the Jews. If you see another Jew, you help another Jew.

• 1:35:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Yep.

• 1:35:19Speaker 01

  Full stop. So you could be a Israel Jew, a New York Jew, a Ukrainian Jew. If you got the little, if you got the small hat, I mess with you automatically. There's no questions about it. And I think that that.

• 1:35:30Tom Bilyeu?

  I hope you guys enjoy the final episode of the Tom Goon Show Live. It's been wonderful. We love you guys.

• 1:35:34Speaker 01

  But that level of unity is real and it is a superpower. And I have to give all the credit to the community because they do wield that power well.

• 1:35:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:41Speaker 01

  And I think that that organization, you don't see in any other culture. Even with Muslim cultures, cultures, a certain part, like what kind of Muslim are you? Like, they even have separation. Then they're the next in that line, but they're not even as coherent.

• 1:35:52Tom Bilyeu?

  There's some infighting in Israel, but point taken.

• 1:35:55Speaker 01

  On the grandest scale, see point. If I see somebody on the street, I'm automatically going to default into how can I help versus who are you? I'm sizing you up. And then I feel, I, I was talking about this to somebody the other day. I feel like the Jews help each other out. White people, you bicker. That's your problem. You guys are in the same family, but you bicker like.

• 1:36:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Interesting. I don't feel any affinity towards white people.

• 1:36:13Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:36:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Because I'm in a white majority country. So I don't even have to think about it. If I were in Japan, would I sort of so?

• 1:36:21Speaker 01

  If you seen another white guy walking down with a white p like, ah.

• 1:36:24Tom Bilyeu?

  It, okay, so in fairness, that happened a couple of times, not the wumpy shirt. But what it ends up being is, oh, you're tall and white. And so you do like the black eye nod thing like, ah.

• 1:36:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36:35Tom Bilyeu?

  So, but, uh, in, I'm such a values guy that I just do not find it interesting to be around somebody because they look like me. But if they have a similar, like. World view, then I really connect.

• 1:36:52Speaker 01

  But that's, that's the strength of the Jewish population is that it's like, we look the same and we have that first level of thinking the same. And those two things are together where every other population is like, we look the same, I mess with you, or we think the same, I mess with you, but it's one or the other, it's not both.

• 1:37:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, that's interesting.

• 1:37:07Speaker 01

  It's evolution.

• 1:37:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Interesting, Drew. Man, I have a very unhealthy desire to keep talking about that because it's so bad for the show.

• 1:37:14Speaker 01

  I'm trying to move on, okay. Next quick hit, Hassan Piker, friend of the show. I don't know what happened to him yesterday. I hope this is clipped out of context, but he would.

• 1:37:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Is there a context where you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless he's doing an imitation of somebody else. I don't know what context you put this in.

• 1:37:31Speaker 01

  If we have any Hassan fans in the chat, please give me clarity because this is a crazy clip. But let's hear it from him.

• 1:37:41Speaker 04

  We have endured suffering under the communist regime and we believe that.

• 1:37:48Speaker 05

  Okay, fuck you, dude. I mean, seriously, fuck you, old lady. Shut the fuck up.

• 1:37:55Speaker 05

  Idiotic old lady.

• 1:38:01Tom Bilyeu?

  What are they bleeping?

• 1:38:03Speaker 01

  The bleeps are late.

• 1:38:08Speaker 05

  Okay, seriously, fuck this South Vietnamese motherfucking whatever, like Christian supremacist psychotic fucking refugees living in America now and, and, and able to talk that shit. Let's go back and live in fucking South Vietnam in the same condition.

• 1:38:24Tom Bilyeu?

  I, I don't understand that final part of this. Like it, she's saying, hey, living under a communist regime was brutal. And he was like, oh, oh, you like it in America where you get freedom of speech? Well, then fuck off back to communist Vietnam. What? That's a huh? Like, I'm not even sure I understand the argument.

• 1:38:43Speaker 01

  I am confused.

• 1:38:43Tom Bilyeu?

  So listen, homeboy goes hard in the paint. I, I would like the record to reflect. He is lovely in person. Now, this is psychotic. So, but yeah, I've seen enough clips like this. This is clearly a gear that he really has. So, but yeah, that one is pretty wild.

• 1:39:01Speaker 01

  I'm seeing it.

• 1:39:01Speaker 02

  That's an old clip, I think, by the way.

• 1:39:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:39:03Speaker 02

  It's not a, it's not like recent. This is like years and years ago.

• 1:39:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Years and years? We sure about that?

• 1:39:08Speaker 02

  I believe, because that, I think, might be his old setup.

• 1:39:10Speaker 01

  Copy. Okay, okay, okay. People are saying is he?

• 1:39:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Is he like, is he going back on it?

• 1:39:14Speaker 02

  Well, no. So what it is, is when he first started Twitch, it was like the rage era of commentary, right? And so a lot of his stuff was more inflammatory. Well, now he's a little more front-facing politics, older, more mature.

• 1:39:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it. So he-

• 1:39:27Speaker 02

  That's, that's what the context of that clip is. I don't know the full, like, what he's talking about.

• 1:39:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it. So at this, in this time capsule, this was insane. He's not in this time era anymore. I've seen some stuff like this from him in the not-too-distant past, but fair enough, if this is old, I'm not sure why all of a sudden it popped off. But both of us had it on our feed today, so.

• 1:39:50Speaker 02

  I think it's just Twitch clip culture. I mean, you have all those companies now that you literally pay people to go either slander or back people up.

• 1:39:58Tom Bilyeu?

  You pay people? What, what, what?

• 1:39:59Speaker 02

  So there are services now where they, streamers will pay, like, very low wages to people in, like, other countries to go and clip their show and post it everywhere.

• 1:40:10Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 1:40:11Speaker 02

  And so some people pay to get it on other people. Some people pay to make it of themselves. And that's why you've created a-

• 1:40:16Tom Bilyeu?

  So wait, people will pay just to tarnish somebody else's reputation?

• 1:40:19Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. And that's not just Hassan. That's like everyone that happens with normal streamers.

• 1:40:23Speaker 01

  And then you react to it.

• 1:40:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Is it just so that you can?

• 1:40:26Speaker 02

  It's kind of to craft the narrative, right? I mean, like with any streamers, look at Kai Sinat with all those Mafia-thon streams. People would just take random stuff and post it everywhere and be like, "Look at what Kai's doing to our younger generation." And it's like, well, you know, people pay to do that and, like, craft a narrative.

• 1:40:42Tom Bilyeu?

  And for people that don't know, Ryan has a background not in that exact thing, but he's been around doing clips for influencers for quite some time, so.

• 1:40:51Speaker 02

  We had to deal with it with, I'm not going to say his name, but a client I worked for. Basically bashed a video game and the entire community started clipping like five seconds of it, putting it everywhere and suddenly we were losing subscribers and viewers and it's like, well, that's not the whole clip. Go watch his video, you know?

• 1:41:08Tom Bilyeu?

  That's interesting.

• 1:41:08Speaker 02

  So it is, it is a culture of clipping for sure.

• 1:41:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, wild. Well, it got us. It got us, Ryan.

• 1:41:16Speaker 02

  Now, again, I don't know the context of that, but so.

• 1:41:20Speaker 01

  All right. Next one, we have Ben Shamiro, also probably quoted out of context. If you're a young American who can't afford to live here, then maybe you shouldn't live here.

• 1:41:28Tom Bilyeu?

  There's no, I need, this one feels like there's gotta be some context. It may make me hate the statement even more, but like, there's gotta be context. Like, what is he even referring to?

• 1:41:39Speaker 01

  I don't see the video.

• 1:41:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I couldn't find anything. So I was just like, uh, so in, in the abstract, that statement is full retard. So I don't know if there's something that either he's being misquoted where, cause a lot of times people put stuff in quotes when they're actually paraphrasing and the paraphrase goes one way, but the actual quote goes another. I would need to see this in actual, and if anybody in chat can link us to the thing, uh, by all means, please do.

• 1:42:08Speaker 01

  And greed island gal say.

• 1:42:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, somebody's saying, he was saying move to another state in context. So, and honestly, in honesty, that is fair enough. Drew and I had a similar argument where I was saying it's okay for New York to be too expensive for some people. Like there's just a reality to be faced where there are going to be some places, they're more desirable, they're finite. And so the very thing that determines who can live there and not is price. We can talk about why humans are necessarily economic units, why we want them to be economics, why each of us should want to be an economic unit. All of that, I know it sounds terrible, but there is a very compelling argument. Uh, and then ultimately we take that and we say, oh, cool. This lets me specialize and now I can get the things that I want.

• 1:42:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Some people will not be able to get a New York high rise or Beverly Hills or whatever.

• 1:42:58Tom Bilyeu?

  So from that standpoint, but it's still a super asshole-y way to say it. I would love to get some context to know if I hate it even more or if there is, um, something to it, but yes.

• 1:43:10Speaker 02

  It was talking about pessimism. So he was talking about young people's pessimism with the world. And this was also an out of date clip from like less long than the Hassan one, but it's like six months back when he was on a podcast. So he's addressing pessimism of the youth in America. And it's like, if you don't like something, move somewhere else. So again, might just be taken out of context.

• 1:43:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, a little less crazy when you hear it like that.

• 1:43:31Speaker 01

  Last but not least, it seems TikTok TikToker Kabi Lane also attended the Hakami School of Divorce Strategy. That is the European footballer, for those who don't know that story. The guy recently sold his image rights in a massive deal reportedly worth 975 million.

• 1:43:45Tom Bilyeu?

  First of all, that can't be true.

• 1:43:47Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:43:48Tom Bilyeu?

  That just can't be true.

• 1:43:49Speaker 01

  The image deal?

• 1:43:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, it's got to be something like, we'll pay you royalties. And if you got this many views, it would equal the, there's just no way this guy just made 975 million in cash, just for the record. But anyway.

• 1:44:01Speaker 01

  Then just a few months later, his wife Wendy Thembahle, Jewel filed for divorce, citing unexpected and irreconcilable incompatibility of character, basically a personality clash. When the court started digging into Kabi's wealth for the settlement, they discovered that all his assets were registered under his father's name. So the focus shifted to his ex-wife's wealth. And now Kabi reportedly stands to receive 10 million from her. I am now seeing this community note, but it was fun when we blasted.

• 1:44:26Tom Bilyeu?

  So we're, we're oh for three here. What, what's the community note say?

• 1:44:30Speaker 01

  This was his wife, the split was a traditional Muslim ceremony only. So no civil marriage or court asset split, per his manager.

• 1:44:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it. So she wouldn't have been able to get anything. This is a pure viral hoax. That's interesting. Yeah, this kind of thing, I have to admit, just looking at the photo, if I didn't know who that was, I'd be like, oh, is he wealthy? Because dude, sexual market value is a real thing. And Kabi's not a, um, he's not not handsome, but he's not like her level of gorgeous.

• 1:45:01Speaker 01

  Handsome enough to get to back.

• 1:45:02Tom Bilyeu?

  Like that, she's stunning.

• 1:45:05Speaker 01

  Sheesh.

• 1:45:06Tom Bilyeu?

  So yeah, that one feels a little mismatchy.

• 1:45:09Speaker 01

  There is a growing level of the amount of people who are getting divorced and then realizing that their assets are under parents' names, wife's name, mother's like.

• 1:45:16Tom Bilyeu?

  I wonder how long that's gonna work cuz courts are eventually gonna cotton on to that and be like, you can't do that just to hide your assets. Plus, there's, there's like tax liability with that stuff. I wonder how much of that is true. I'm so curious to know how these guys, like, are they making a trust and putting it in their mom's name? And so that I could see. And if you really trust your mom, uh, then fair enough. But man, that's rough that you feel like you've got to hide from your significant other like that. I, that's really a sad commentary.

• 1:45:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, the game's different. It's not as a, marriage is declining and people can't afford things and, you know, all that stuff.

• 1:45:53Tom Bilyeu?

  But at least you're in World War III.

• 1:45:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:56Tom Bilyeu?

  So you gotta take the good with the bad.

• 1:45:58Speaker 01

  Glass half full.

• 1:46:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:46:44Tom Bilyeu?

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