Giggly Squad
Hosted by Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo
Original podcast
Paige has a new lease on life. Meanwhile, Hannah is therapy for her road test. watch our youtube series sign up for our newsletter order our book
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Sup, gigglers?
Jerry, fix your Wi-Fi.
Manifest that shit.
We can't be managed.
I mean, the day just got away from me.
Guess who's back? Guess who's back? Guess who's back? Paige is only letting me sing because she missed me so much.
I, it really feels like a month. Like, it was one week we didn't do it, and I'm like, I'm foaming at the mouth.
The mouth. What's that TikTok? Did you guys miss me? Because I missed you.
I also feel like throughout my weeks, I'm like, oh, my God, I can't wait to tell Hannah this, or like, I cannot wait to talk to Hannah about this. And then I get on the pod and I'm like, I forget everything.
Blank, because you get so excited. You're like that kid who's trying to tell a story and you're like, and then, this one time, and, and then they, and then they went, and then. But, um, the truth is, is I realized it's like a purge every week for us. So like, if we don't get that day of the week to purge everything, it starts.
It bottles up.
It bottles up. I'm not okay.
Okay, it also makes me realize that I, like, if you died, like, I don't have a single other person in my life that I have the relationship with you, like, the way I do with you. Like, if you just, like, disappeared, I'd be like,
they'd have to commit me because I'd be so bottled up with things.
You don't have a healthy outlet.
I don't have a healthy outlet.
But I'd also argue that the things that were like, we need to say stuff on Giggly Squad, none of them are important.
Not a single one.
My first note that I have for this week is, French is for girls.
And where's the lie?
Men should not speak French. French is only a language for girls. Men do not say je ne sais quoi. That is a French girl word.
And honestly, if like your man says, do you want to go to Paris? Gross. It has, it has to be you giving him that information and then him being like, yeah, we can go.
You have to trick him to go to Paris.
Yeah, like him coming up with the idea to go to Paris.
Even him saying like Jeanne Maupel, by the way, I don't know how to speak French. Because basically I wanted to learn French, but then Dez was like, should I learn it too? And I was like, oh, no. No, I got the ick. I was like, you could learn Italian or Spanish.
When I was like, when I was centering men in my life a couple of years ago, um, I took the French class of 2016. That literally haunts me for my life. I started taking this French class because this guy I was dating told me I was not impressive because I didn't know another language.
Wait, did you go in person?
Sure fucking did. This was pre-COVID. This is like, things were in person. I went to like four classes of this French class and I was just like, I don't even like this guy that much.
So then you like go to the restaurant and you were like, oh, like, c'est la vie?
I learned how to ask for the check. And that's the only thing I retained.
Wait, a man said you're not impressed? Also, look, you fucked with like the wrong finance bros.
I think about that guy all the time. Or not that guy, I think about that moment all the time. Like, you're just like not that impressive. And I was like, pardon?
But do you realize that's because he's insecure about himself?
Yeah, I wanted to send him my time, the time 100 thing, but I think I'm blocked.
Also, men blocking women? Not a thing. Men are not allowed to block women.
No.
That's petty ass behavior for women to do to other men or other women who have wronged them.
Yeah. I want to go on, if I want to date you, I want to go on your Instagram and I want to see like that you didn't post for like a whole year.
Oh, 100%. I want you to ask me how to post an Insta story.
You're like, how do you add sound? I want him to be like, if you, if I wanted to add sound, how would I?
If a man knows how to add the location and then change the font of the location sticker, I'm out.
Yeah.
I'm out. I love breaking up with imaginary relationships while I'm married.
Well, I would say you lived through me a little bit.
No, fully. I'm like, I can't do this anymore.
Last time people saw us together was time 100.
Yes.
I was obsessed with your fit. You're going, you're going the high fashion direction that I want my Barbie doll to go in.
Are, yes or no, are you annoyed that all day I send you vintage products that I can't wear? And I sent to you to get?
No, I don't get mad at them at all.
Have you purchased any?
Uh, I think so.
Okay, good.
Not recently, I haven't, no.
Okay, we don't need that detail.
But like, in the course of you sending me things, have I ever purchased something from something you've sent me? Yes. Actually, I'd even go as far to say, the other day I did an Amazon Live for Prime Day and...
Your Super Bowl.
My outfit, literally. My, I kept getting comments like, "Your outfit is so Hannah-coated." And, this is a compliment to you, because when I saw the outfit on Amazon, I go, "Oh my god, that's so Miu Miu." But like, it's Amazon, and it was like this striped little set. Honestly, you would look adorable in it. I'm gonna send you the link.
Well, we are merging into the same person.
We are. Like, I don't do my hair anymore.
Welcome, to the dark side.
I'm literally an air-dry queen. I'm an air, here's my method. I'm an air-dry queen, and then I throw a little Tresemé hairspray.
Then I do a little, um, what brand is it? It's like a, it's like a salt spray.
I wanna say it's Way. I wanna say it's like a salt texture spray.
And that's it. And then I'm like, hello.
Wait, so you're just like, not like other girls and like, laid back? You're like, low maintenance? Would you call yourself low maintenance now? You're some, look, can we save for a spare to spare what's happening? You're tan, so you can look hot, doing anything. If you were pale, you would need to get three hours of glam to go outside. That's where we're at. Um, also, I do think, like, first of all, frizz in the summer is a thing. You can either fight it, or be one with it.
Lean in.
Lean in. Also, if it's on top of my head, I can't see it.
No. And, again, the back of our head is really none of our business, but I wanna say it's pretty wavy back there. Remember when I was convinced I had curly hair?
Yeah, that, you were going through something, where you were like, "Can you treat me differently? I'm a curly-haired girl."
Yeah, like, respect my, well, okay.
You gaslit yourself.
Look at that piece. That is curly.
It's wavy.
Okay, anywho, that, none of this was even on the frickin' docket.
Well, let's be honest, we never could get to anything on the docket.
Okay, so we're at the time party.
First of all, we can't, couldn't believe that we were even on the list, let alone, like, did the photo shoot, did the interview? Like, it was just, they're all very surreal. So we get invited to this cocktail party and we're getting our outfits. We're very excited. And I am a well-trained cocktail party goer. I know the exact timing that I take my beta blocker. Where I'm going to arrive to said cocktail party. So we do our pictures. We do the little like step and repeat. We're upstairs. We're, we're at the time where you're done mingling and you're gonna get a cocktail.
And the bar is crowded.
The bar is crowded.
It's not easy to get the cocktail.
Would you like to proceed from here because this is your story to tell?
Well, I have to say, when I get to a party, I enter hot. Like I'm saying hi to everyone physically and emotionally.
I was gonna say, and physically.
Immediately my temperature rises.
And I'm, I picked my dress, the white Versace. Mainly because it's beautiful, but also because I'm like, I could sweat through this and no one would know.
I had another dress I really liked, but I was like, this is gonna be a nightmare. Cause then you just become the sweaty girl that everyone remembers you as, which is fine. I've been it before.
Don't put me in a box.
I just don't like to be typecasted all the time. So we get there, we run into Taylin Biggs.
Miss Taylin.
No, she's just so freaking cute. I mean, I, I can't.
Well, she walked up to you like Paige and you were like, you look gorgeous. And she was like, thank you. And then I was like, Hey, it's Aunt Hannah.
And you were like, isn't Aunt Hannah silly? And I'm like, look at me, look at me. And she's like, I'm literally 11 years old and like, I don't understand the sense of humor.
No, she is just the cutest.
No, how old is she?
No, I think she's like 11 or 12.
I think she's 11 or 12. She's so cute, so sweet. I can't imagine, like she's going through the same stuff we are at that time party.
She has a better career than us.
I was like, what are you talking to people about? She's like, I'm networking. Leave me alone. I was like,
No, literally she's a,
I'm just kidding.
She's a little professional. She's so. But here's the thing that is so amazing about her. She is a little professional. And it's almost like this is her like after school activity. She is still very much a innocent little girl. Like she still is a little girl.
Well, yeah, we don't want to go full Disney.
No, she's like it's and it's like very endearing, you know, like everything she's doing is like fun for her.
Yeah, I did talk to her. I was like, do you enjoy interviewing? Cause I love interviewing people. And she was like, I love it. It's my passion. And I was like, good. Cause I have that like tennis PTSD. Where if I see a kid who's like really good at something, I'm like, are you enjoying it or is someone forcing you? Are you happy? She was like, Hannah, I'm networking.
She was, you're on my hair. Can you please get?
No, she looks so cute. And then we said hi to like our peeps. And then the heat started to hit me in particular. And I looked at you and I was like, it's very, it's very hot. It's eighty five degrees.
And I wasn't really like, I was beta blockered up, so.
You looked at me. You go, I took a beta blocker. And I was like, you looked at me, you looked me up and down. You go, you didn't?
Left me for dead.
I was like, why are you freaking out? Did you not medicate before we arrived? And you were like, I literally forgot.
I didn't, you know, I'm actually, I'm not that bad with those social events. I'm more bad at like a, a group dinner.
Yeah, you're bad at a more intimate setting.
Like that middle intimacy. Like if it's with two people, I'm great. If it's with five hundred people, I'm great. But if it's like seven. I don't know the rules.
See, the time party is my exact, like if it's like a hundred and fifty people on a rooftop, I'm anxious.
See, lucky I thrive because you, you're just running around. Hi, hi, hi, hi. You're running around. My problem is temperature. So long story short, we eventually lock eyes. And you're out to lunch. Who knows? You are high as a kite.
You're in a happy place.
I'm literally, I'm taking pictures, I'm meeting people, I'm networking.
People are just putting cameras in front of your face and you're just smiling.
I'm smiling, I'm posing, I'm literally, I'm never in this mood and I'm having a great time. I'm actually in my head thinking, I might get a cocktail at this event. Like, I'm having a good time.
I was at the point where I was like, water. I was struggling, I'm freaking out, I look at you, you're calm, a little too calm, a little eerily calm. And I go, I think, I think it's time we should get out of here. And you don't hear me. So I'm like, did you hear me or what? So I repeat, I'm like, we should leave. You still don't respond because you're, who knows what you're thinking about? And I go, look at me, do you want to leave? And you go, oh my god, of course.
The only thing better than having a good time is leaving. So like, I could be having a great time, but if someone says, hey, let's get out of here, I'm like, that's amazing.
Also, I like to leave on top. I'm not leaving on a low, I'm not having an awkward conversation then getting out. I'm getting on a high, I'm having such a good last sentence with a group. Everyone's laughing, I go, that's my time, thank you so much, I'm here till Wednesday. Get in the elevator, get out, so I don't have to think about anything I said that might be going around the party at this point.
Best idea wins. And that night, it was your idea and that was to leave. And so, literally, everyone's leaving like this one area to go to like this other area where like the bar is really popping off. And our Irish exit was actually in one of the top five Irish exits I've ever done in my life.
I've ever seen in history.
As we're walking by the elevator, one magically opens, we pop our bodies right in there, we say, sir, press that button as fast as you can.
We felt like spies, like we talked with our eyes the whole time. And we were like, sir, get us home. You didn't see anything.
We are very honored to be on the list and invited to the party, thank you so much.
No, we had so much fun, there were so many amazing people from like so many different entertainment areas. It was just very cool, but I'd have to say, New York City in the summer is not for the weak.
It's absolutely not. And those rooftops, like you think because you're outside and you're on a rooftop, you're getting ventilation? You're not.
The air is not flowing, it's stagnant.
Because all the air is getting sucked up by other succubuses because there's 200 people and everyone's fighting over the same air.
And everyone's just, everyone's full glam, so no one wants to come super close to you because you're sticky. And then like everyone's glowing.
Because they're so hot and sweaty.
Also, it's one of those things where I've saw so many people that like I know online and I message a lot of people, like, once you message someone once, you're best friends, right?
Isn't that the rule? So then I was obviously forgetting if I met them in person or not and that I had that same conversation like eight times and I was like, okay, we gotta go. We gotta go.
You want to know why else I was calm? I had gotten the shot before we got there.
Well, you did a whole ice cream photo shoot.
And that's what it was. And that's, and I just realized that.
Wait.
I was going in with no pressure.
For people who don't understand about Getty Images, I'm going to explain it to you right now. Because I didn't. Now I do. So you get glam for like two to three hours, depending on who you are. Um, and then you show up to an event and I don't know about you, but I still like kind of shake on the red carpet.
Every single time, I like forget how to pose.
I'm like, why am I shaking?
I literally look like a Lego square on every red carpet because I like forget to turn my body or put my hand anywhere.
Well, because you also, they give you literally 22 seconds or less.
Here's the other thing. So many people are watching you.
Oh my God. If anyone watches me do anything, I'll forget how to speak English.
Yeah, so I'm like, can you guys look away?
No, they're like, can you guys stop? Well, someone got a video of me from the side. And I don't know, I was trying to like stick my chin out. Like I looked insane posture from the side, but the front, it looks normal.
And then you know the pictures are coming out and then you know people are gonna be like, "And that's what she chose to wear?" You're like, so you can hear it in your head as you're doing it? You're like, "Everyone fucking hates this dress."
And then it's over in a second and then you're like, "Wait."
They're like, "Thank you so much."
I've walked off the carpet before and then like, looked in the mirror and been like, "Oh, my hair is completely standing straight up."
My dress wasn't pulled down.
Yes, you get out of the Uber and immediately they're like, "Go on the carpet." And you're like, "You, my belly button's sweating." But the stress is that, yeah, everyone sees these photos and these photos then get picked up multiple times throughout the year whenever anyone wants to write a story about you. So it's not like they take a photo like a, and you never see it again. Like this photo lives forever.
And it's usually the worst one you've ever taken in your life. I, I'm not kidding, I have a photo from the first year of BravoCon.
When no one warned us.
In 2017, that haunts the fuck out of me. I know whenever someone writes a story about me and they don't like me because they use that photo and I'm like, "Oh, you're a fucking op."
They came for you.
And it's funny because they take a bunch of photos, but they choose their favorite ones. Which also, let's be honest, no one chooses the photos you actually like of yourself because everyone sees themselves in a weird way and that's just like our messed up psychology. But you take these photos and then you can't enjoy the event because you're like checking to see when they go up to know if you wasted your entire day for a bad photo.
And that sounds so depressing to say, but I need to, I keep it real with you guys on Giggly Squad. This is what's going on in our heads, but I actually liked my Getty photo and I realized it's because I was tan.
You know what else I liked? Our Getty photo together, which rarely happens.
That's the thing. The photos come in of Paige, the photos come in of me, the photos come in of us both. Sometimes one of us looks good, then it's a whole thing. "Can I post this photo?" And I sacrifice myself sometimes. You'd sacrifice yourself to, you're very, you have done that before.
You can see the level of connection you have with your friend based on when she sends, "Can I post this photo?" And how much your friend loves you or not, if she says yes or no.
Because I will look at myself and be like, "Don't love that," but then I'll look at you and I'll be like, "She deserves it. She earned that one."
That's so fucking true. But I also love that we still send to each other for approval.
Whoa. We're not monsters. You know, we're girls, girls. We're not just gonna post.
I hate when someone asks for approval and then when they post it, they've added like a strange filter on it. I'm like, nope, didn't approve that, that draft.
Or I've seen photos where people like edit themselves and then not you. And I'm like, hey, throw a girl a teeth whitener once in a while.
I mean, look at yours.
Now I look like I'm from England.
Wait, I had such an interesting thing happen to me on Instagram the other day that's never happened. And I've always like wondered. I'm scrolling, I'm just like doing my nighttime scroll, nothing crazy. I see a picture, I don't even, now I can't even remember who the picture was of. A celebrity though, and a carousel of an outfit. So I'm scrolling through the outfit and like, I like to look at the comments to see like where is certain things from. I saw someone that I know in the comments, making a rude comment. And it's like seeing your teacher outside of school. Like, not that I really knew this person very well, but like I recognized the name and I saw the profile picture and I was like, oh, I know that person.
And the comment was like, I'm so annoyed that I can't think of who the celebrity was. Was commenting on this celebrity's appearance. And I was like, oh my god. I immediately unfollowed the person because I was like, that's so weird. You're a person that comments mean things on people's Instagrams? And it just never happened to me before where I saw like a legit person I knew and I feel, it felt weird.
I've seen that before where I'm like, oh, they have this whole side to them.
Yeah, it's very jarring.
It's jarring. It also reminds me a little bit of like, if I see someone come for someone on reality TV like super hard, like to the point that they're bullying them, I get, I'm like, guys, that could be you tomorrow. Let's, I, we have like a weird perspective because we've been on both ends. What did, what's the quote? Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the thing they pee on.
You know, I'm not familiar with that one.
But I'm going to choose to believe you because
Marilyn Monroe said it.
I mean, sometimes I've seen my girlfriends in the comments where they're like, where is this from? And I'm like, she's so cute.
See, I'm that person that's like obnoxiously hype where it's probably like Hannah, calm down. Like you don't need 800, like if I was a guy, I'd be creepy. Like, why do you need 800 fire emojis at your friend's selfie?
Like I sent you and said I was posting.
Wait, I know. I have a new word, like lingo for us in life. Gigglers, get your notebooks.
You know, when you meet someone, which this is like very common for you because you're a Scorpio and their vibes are just off. Like you're talking to people and you can't figure it out. You just don't like them and you don't know why, but it's definitely something. The way I describe it now is sinister energy.
Like I was describing actually a man from my past and, and the girl's explaining and they're like, how would you describe him? I was just like sinister energy. And she's like, I know exactly what you're saying. It's just like something is fucking off and I, I love the word sinister.
Okay, our final episode of
Hannah Page Try New Things.
Is coming out, well, when you're listening to this tonight, when we, we do a psychic reading in it. And one of the things in the psychic reading that she says is like the past couple of months, I was having a hard time trusting my intuition, which I actually said to a therapist, like I was like, I'm so good at like listening to my gut. In the past couple of months, I felt like I don't know, I can't listen to my gut. Like it's almost like it's not speaking to me.
Literally from the start of the summer, like not going back to reality TV, I feel like my intuition has almost been on another level. Like to the point where I can walk into a room and not even look around the room and feel like the energy is sinister. And be like, I have to move or like I have been in rooms recently where I'm like, I gotta go. I don't like it in here and And it's so weird because I was like watching that our clips like back and I felt that like it's almost like I felt it come back. Like I felt my gut come back.
I feel like it's more than coming back. I feel like when you lose yourself and then you find yourself a- after losing yourself, it's so much fucking stronger because you're like, I'm not letting you go. And we're, we know not to question ourselves now because we question ourselves for what, for what?
If people think that I was narcissistic on reality TV, I'd hate to, for them to meet me today. I'm obsessed with myself recently.
I've never been more obsessed with myself where like.
Number one fan. Fan behavior.
Like recently I've just been like, oh my God, good job. To myself in my head, I'm like, even if it's like an outfit, I'm like, wait, sick outfit, like good job.
Like you're being nice to yourself for a second?
Yeah, like I'm being really nice to myself recently, I feel like. And I'm like, wait, I love my life. I'm like, I'm having so much, I love my life.
Mental health moment, sometimes I've actually had those moments in my darkest times where I like needed to be nice to myself or I wasn't gonna make it.
And I've actually sometimes been my happiest during a time where like other people might think I wasn't. Because I literally like had to sit down and like actively be supportive because no one else was. But then sometimes when things are going well for me is when I start to nitpick and I'll be like, because I'm like bored and I'm like, let's get mad at this, mad at that. But sometimes.
Or like you do something and you're like, well, this actually could have been better about that.
Yes, because you're like taking things for granted where when you lose everything, you suddenly like find gratitude again, not to be like, but anyway, the ups and downs, it's like just navigating your perspective on yourself.
Well, also, I think I obviously went through such a, I'm going through such a transition period because before I left Summer House, I like made the decision that I wanted to leave, but in my gut, I was like, but how are you going to feel mid summer when you're not filming and when it comes out and you're not on it?
You'll never know until...
Truly, in my head, I was like, well, I won't know and I'll have to deal with it then. And so I think this summer, like so many different things have happened and I've just been like, wait, I think I made, I feel like I really did make the right decision for like my life overall. And I feel like that was part of like, no, you trusted, your gut actually was right when you made the decision initially and now you're feeling the benefits of it and you're, I'm like proud of myself for trusting my gut.
I also think there aren't necessarily like right or wrong decisions. It's more that like when you say something with your chest and you fully commit to it, the universe responds to it. Like I do think there's a version of you that if you didn't really believe it and half ass left the show, you could be twiddling your thumbs right now and questioning it, but you fully committed, trusted yourself and the universe is like, oh, let's go. Like, let's do what we want to do.
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Are One Piece bathing suits in?
I think always.
You love a One Piece.
Wait, can we talk about my White Lotus look, just for like a quick second?
Yes, that's actually, I think, what inspired that note.
Okay, so I was watching White Lotus, and when that episode came out, the girl, I think her name was Chloe in the show, she had this outfit on. I literally took a picture of the TV screen, put it into Google Images, and was like, "I need to find all of this." Figured out that it was a custom jacques-mousses look, so I was like, "Oh, he's definitely gonna make it for the masses." He made the skirt in a version, but it wasn't like to the floor, and it wasn't like how she wore it on TV, so I was like annoyed by him for that moment, but whatever.
I digress.
I digress. So I like literally just found everything that looked similar through like a Google Image search, and then I got that hat in Italy when I was there. Like, I saw it in the window, and I was like, "That's, I need that for my White Lotus look."
Which season from White Lotus?
The most recent.
Oh my god.
And then I saw Patrick Schwarzenegger in the pool, and I was just like, "You know, this is cosmic."
And you go, "Somebody's gonna die."
And I'm like, "My look is amazing."
I think also with fashion, and your confidence is a thing too, like if you wear something and own it versus like not really believe in it. There's also a time, I think, where, do you ever get, you were stressed out, like every outfit was like doomsday, like, "Fuck, are people gonna hate it?", versus when you're in your power, and you're like, "These bitches aren't even ready for this fit."
Well, I think I literally like exhibited that before I went to Italy. I was like, "I have no outfits." Like, almost because I was like, people rag on me like so much sometimes for my outfits, that I'm, in my head, I'm almost like low expectations, like, "Oh, I don't have anything, it's not good."
And you blew it out of the park.
And that was like me being like mean to myself.
But like while I was there, I was just having like the best time I've ever had there, and I was just like leaning into my outfits. I literally had a day where I was like, "Dad, I'm gonna put three outfits on, and I need you to take my picture."
Okay, that was what I want to ask. Who is taking the photos?
My dad. My dad is- I have trained my dad like no other man. Actually, a lot of my good pictures were taken on my G7X. But my dad doesn't really love using the digital camera, you know, and I quote, he said, I can rapid fire better on the phone. So that's what I like to use. But I'm like, Dad, there's a certain aesthetic with the digital. And so it takes too long to click down the button. So he gets angry, but he gets the job done and he literally stays until the routine is finished. And I, his commitment is, that's why I can't, I can't get married because whose commitment to the shot is ever going to be as good as his?
What's Kim doing?
Honestly, you want to know what? Kim weaponizes, um, her incompetence. I know that bitch could get it, but she'd rather say, oh, your dad likes doing it. Your dad can do it. And it's actually, this is a perfect example of if you work harder, you actually get the job rather than someone who might be more qualified.
And, and you know what? Gary believes in himself. I don't know why or how, but he does.
And he tries and tries again. And it's gone to the point where I can use lingo. I'm like, it's too much headroom.
You go, make sure the light's hitting my left cheekbone. Thank you.
I'm like, you see how you're tilting? It's making me look shorter than I actually am. I'm going to need you to come up. And so like, he takes direction well.
You're, he's a full on production team.
He really is.
And the TikTok with him really made me laugh.
And he loves doing TikToks.
Speaking of family, I get an email saying audition. And I was like, oh, I'm back in the game.
For Vera DeLeo.
You're a manager.
And I, so my dream is obviously to make Nana a star and. I don't know how it happened, but it's like for a legit show on Netflix. And I so I start reading the description and it's like eighty year old Italian woman.
What wait, what giggler is at Netflix? It's like, I have the exact grandma. I know the exact one.
Somebody was like, get Hannah's contact, cuz she's the manager. So I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing. I click on the script and it's like paragraphs.
Which, you know, Nana had a stroke a couple of years ago. Nana, I don't wanna put pressure on her. Yeah, so I actually sat on it for like a day. I'm like, do I even want Nana to stress out? But then I'm like, whatever. So I call her and she's like so calm. She's like, I'm ready. And I'm like, are you, so you're gonna like, you wanna practice with me and stuff? And she's like, I'll see you tomorrow. We'll film it.
She, she memorized it.
She memorized, but we also used like a little script to help her read it.
She sits down, so calm.
She's a star.
Embodies this, like, it was.
Like you wanted to cry. You almost cried.
I was like, how'd you get that Brooklyn accent so good? Like she was, I wanted to cry, like, obviously it's very hard to book things. So I'm not saying she's gonna book anything, but I'm just so proud of her.
Okay, here's, but here's the other thing. What a core memory for her even doing it with you. Like even filming it and getting, and the fact that her granddaughter is in a position where she's getting these emails. Like that alone, it's like she did it.
Well, Nana, her whole thing, she loves Hollywood. And I feel like she always wanted to be a part of Hollywood, but her life just went a different way. But she dressed like she was a Hollywood starlet. And she showed me every Marilyn Monroe movie, Esther Williams, Singing in the Rain, Frank Sinatra. Like that's how I was raised with this like. Love of movies.
Yes. So then for at eighty-four.
Mm-hmm.
For her to have her first audition, like guys.
No, that's nice.
Life is crazy.
Crazy.
You can start an acting career at eighty-four. So Nana, she's gonna be booked and busy. Um, but the best thing is she goes, I'm like, when can you come over? She goes, I'm getting my hands on.
At noon, because my hair looks horrible right now. I'll come over at one-thirty and we'll shoot it. I said, get your glands on, Nana.
Done, Nana.
So I'm, shout out to Nana. I'm so proud of her.
I'm so proud of her.
So if you are listening, Netflix, book her.
One more thing I was gonna say about Italy, because you know how like certain inside jokes will like happen on a trip? And then like they last the trip. That's like, I feel like the sign of a good trip.
Yep. So true.
And like at the end of our family trips, we always go around and say like, okay, what was your favorite part of the trip? And like, it's unanimous. It's always like something my dad has done on the trip or like something he said. And my brother's girlfriend is like a pure angel. And I knew that he was gonna be like obsessed with her on this trip because she could speak Italian. And so like, he, him and I also figured out that he has anxiety. I digress because he won't like say the word anxiety. But when he's ordering something, he gets nervous. Like, that guy. You know, we'll dive into this.
Why are you holding my hand?
When we're back in America, but this is a pretty big sign.
I'm just sitting at dinner like rocking back and forth like, oh no, you're perfectly normal. He's like freaking out, it's about to order. So he's like, really would like, just like hit her on the arm and be like, you know, do it like I'm nervous. Whatever. So the one day we're at breakfast and my brother's girlfriend is not, she's not like super health conscious, but she's like a normal girl. Like the one day she was like, I can't eat anymore. Like I have to have like a yogurt.
So we're at breakfast and she puts in her dish like yogurt, some fruit, a little granola, and then chia seeds.
She's going sweet.
Yeah, she's going, just, she's just having a little parfait.
And we're all watching my dad watch her make this yogurt parfait.
Whilst on his plate, he's got cut up tomatoes, prosciutto and mozzarella cheese at 9 a.m. Okay? So he's looking at her almost like in disgust. And he goes, and so her final topping was chia seeds and he's never seen that in his life. He has no idea what a chia seed is.
He goes, "That's made up. That's a made up thing."
And so he looks at her and he goes, "What is that?" And she goes, "Oh, these are chia seeds. Like, they're really good for X, Y, and Z." My dad responds to her and he goes, "Yeah? I had a hamster one time ate shit like that."
Tell her how you really feel, girl. For the entire rest of the trip, anytime anyone would say anything, we'd say, "Yeah? I had a hamster who ate shit like that."
That is so funny. No, it's so good. But my brother's girlfriend is literally obsessed with my dad and all we did was make fun of him the whole time. But it was just one of those jokes that like will live on.
No, that can bring a family together. A broken family can become a home again.
No, it literally like unite, nothing unites a family more than picking on your dad or your mom. Like...
My dad is literally like the funniest person I know and he loves a callback.
And he can make like anything funny. And recently, he does this thing, I think it's a Seinfeld reference, you know, and like you just don't even know where things started, but it's become a thing.
So if you're like in a house and like there's a weird sound and there's an awkward moment where everyone's scared, my dad will just go, my dad will just go, "Mr. Peoples?"
So literally whenever there's like an awkward moment or any quiet, he just goes, "Mr. Peoples?"
No, you are your dad.
So I was literally watching Dez's brothers play tennis and this is my problem. I'll do inside jokes without reading the room.
I'm sitting next to Dez's cool nephew and they're like arguing over a point and it's like getting quiet and I just go, "Mr. Peoples?"
And did anyone say anything?
He's like, "What? What does that mean?" I'm like, "I don't know if it's awkward or you hear a weird sound." Oh yeah, because there was a sound from the garage and Dad just goes, "What was that?" And I go, "Mr. Peoples?"
I care if my dad was here, he would have gotten it.
No, but then Kieran started laughing and that's, as you know, enabling me. And once they get enabled, you can't stop me.
No, you can't.
So anyway, shout out to dads for like once.
No, shout out to dads everywhere, you know?
Um, quick update, speaking of dads, who I don't want to disappoint.
My road test is officially on Friday.
I had a therapy appointment this morning. What do you think I talked about the whole time?
No, I literally texted Hannah. I was like, I can do the pod a little earlier if you can. She was like, sorry, I'm in therapy.
Intensive therapy.
And then I have, I have road test practice after.
Last week I was supposed to have a test with Greg. He called me. He's on vacation, left me for dead, started freaking out. And then I'm like, okay, I'll drive with Dez, which I don't, it tests your marriage.
I mean, I could imagine.
We lasted like a full hour and then he was like, I need to go home. Like, this is, it's scary. Like, it's scary if I'm like having nervous moments. Um, but I have another, I had driving test, driving lesson yesterday, driving lesson today. And I was talking to my therapist because I said, if I fail, which is, let's be honest, 50/50. It's 50/50 at this point. I go, I feel like I'm going to disappoint the community. The community.
No one gives a shit.
Well, that's what she told me. She was like, if your friend is disappointed in you because you can't drive, I go, well, they already are.
No, but let's take this back a minute.
I just want to say I'm really hard on myself and like certain things, if I'm not confident in it, I get like so, like I have bad anxiety about it, basically. So Gary, me and you, we can hold hands, but I'm preparing as much as I can.
Please don't blame us.
Because we don't give a shit. It's really you would be disappointing yourself because you feel like you've put the time in and the effort. But if you fail, we don't care. I'd prefer you to fail because I actually don't think you should get a license at this point. If you haven't figured it out since now, I think you have so many other qualities. I'll drive your kids around because I'm, I'm actually nervous.
Well, that's the thing. I'm like, if I fail, that means I have more work to do. And I shouldn't be out in the streets outside.
And you shouldn't be disappointed. You should just put pen to paper again and like, because it's not safe.
Speaking of pen to paper, I'm going to get a notepad and I'm gonna write, I'm gonna pass my driver's test a hundred times. So that's what I'm doing this week.
Speaking about bringing pen to paper.
The discourse on the internet recently. About everything, anything. Let's bring back journaling. Let's bring back bringing pens and paper. Let's bring back. That's an inside thought.
The outside thoughts have been getting insane.
Well, people get attention by saying whatever, like the crazier the thought, the more views. And we're in this attention economy right now.
Well, I think it was really, it was very interesting to watch people watch Love Island. As like a Love Island fan for many, many years and as someone who like just started watching Love Island USA and I'm an OG UK and even Australia.
To see how out, it was, it was so interesting to see how our country specifically could not handle it. Could not handle it.
Can you tell me like what actually happened? I mean, no spoilers or spoilers.
I'm gonna be so honest. I fell off. Once I went to Italy because I was like, I'm on vacation. Like I just like, I wasn't watching.
Distracted by pesto.
No, literally. And once you miss three episodes, pack it in, honey. You're fucked. Unless you have a full day to dedicate it to. So I'm gonna be honest, I fell off. But I knew enough to watch on TikTok that like, I literally knew what was going on.
So many different things that I think were just casting and production and like
Mistakes.
Social media is so much now that it's like people are like, oh, you know, they're coming on just to be influencers. Yeah, no shit.
They already are influencers.
Why the fuck else are they going on a reality show other than to change their life monetarily? And not have to go back to their jobs? Yeah, why is that like so crazy for people to understand? But there weren't real love connections, which I totally understand the viewer being upset by that.
Oh, so no one found love?
I mean, not really and not till like the very end. It just was a very unique season.
I thought everyone loved each other in the beginning.
Yeah, kind of.
Kind of.
But it was just unique in terms of Love Island in general, like the UK, I've never seen this in the UK. But it was truly because social media, people just couldn't handle it being every single night in life. I mean, the things that they were saying, this one girl came on, she came on as in like Casa, just like this blonde, normal girl, whatever. She had obviously had done a lot of plastic surgery in terms of like filler or like lip injections. By no means was this girl the craziest girl I've ever looked at in my life. But could you tell that she had had her lips done? For sure. Was she a cute girl? Yes, she was like a normal cute little girl.
Also, majority of girls in that house probably have their lips done.
Right. The way the people eviscerated this girl was so shocking and mind blowing that I actually was like, we don't deserve Love Island. We actually don't deserve the show as a whole.
It's fucking Hunger Games because you know what? It's at the point where these people do have power to become very wealthy, but they also can have their lives completely ruined. And there's been many, trigger warning, like mental health issues and suicide that's come out of Love Island and reality TV in general. So with that said, The people feel like they're able to be like Caesar and give a thumbs up or a thumbs down to people that you see for 15 minutes on a show where the producers are trying to frame them into a character that fits with a storyline that they're not even, they don't even know about.
No, Love Island, like, production had to post every week, "Please be nice to the contestants, just to let you know, they don't, they're not seeing any of this when they get out, this is going to be very shocking for them."
It also, this is a hot take, but I saw a lot of people, like, I guess, Amaya ended up being like the favorite, and people were like, "This is the girl we want to make rich, this is the girl we want to make rich."
They were so mean to her, so mean to her when she first got on the show.
Okay, because that's where I was confused, but then, it's like, the highs and the lows, it's like whiplash, because like, as someone who's been on reality TV, and you literally physically were there, when you're standing there with all these people, a lot of it's giving similar energy, this is just young people having fun, but then, once the edit comes out, people are put as like...
Different characters.
And different characters.
Because you're watching, as they should, because you're watching an entertainment show.
Show, yeah, their job is to turn people hanging out into a story of some kind that has to involve ups and downs, of villains, and angels, whatever.
But I don't, people are so loud and so wrong, too, it's also like, they're not editing the show, like, people are like, "I can't believe she said that then," it's like, she, like, she, it was a larger conversation, what are you talking about, like, they're not picking what's on the show.
I used to love reality TV where like, I loved the entertainment of it, but I wasn't leaving feeling like pissed off at a character, like, I was never mad at anyone, like, I was like, "That was a great episode, let's have another episode."
And we grew up with Real Housewives of New York OG, like, and we weren't leaving mad at them, we were like, "That's crazy."
That was a crazy night, yeah.
That's crazy.
Vanderpump Rules, like, you just appreciated the art form of it all, so...
The renaissance of it, a Stassi slap is, it gives renaissance, like, and we...
Heard around the world.
And we weren't going to her and threatening her family, like, it was just like, "Oh, that was a crazy episode, and let's keep it moving because I have work in the morning."
100%, 100%
I do think we have to appreciate the art form, but these poor people, I think, you know what I think's gonna happen? They're gonna just have to start doing AI people on reality TV, and I'm telling you, it's gonna be exactly the same.
Wait, speaking of, I saw an article the other day and it was like, this influencer, like, um, did you see that?
No. And things need to be illegal.
There's, the internet is gonna take us all down, and I'm saying that right now.
Things need to literally be illegal, like, they need to get a handle on AI before... I mean, you could make any video of someone saying anything.
Yeah. The poor parents that are sending videos of, you know, cats flipping burgers, thinking it's real, you know? But also, yeah, we're just in a very fucking strange place.
It's strange.
I love how we started so high and now we've gone so dark at the end.
And that's us.
The world's gonna end, but at least we have each other.
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Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors and I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.
Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit.
It's the outfit.
Not ruining the outfit, but also I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.
And we love giving the gigglers a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like, you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.
Which is very important, because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no.
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It's tough on cold, soft on you.
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One positivity, me not having a driver's license, is apparently people who drive tend to get more sunburns. So my skin is really good, because I'm Actually, I'm in the, I'm in the front seat anyway, so I don't know if that's true.
Right. And I love the idea of getting a little suntan in the car.
True, like, let's be productive.
Sitting there. I've actually truly have reverted back, since this is my first summer in so many summers, having like, I can do whatever I want. I've truly reverted back to high school summer page. All I care about is getting tan, wearing cute outfits, and like texting boys. Like, it's literally all I care about. I'm like, what am I wearing this weekend? Like, what's my text back?
You're like an alien that just discovered what summer is.
Yeah, I'm like, wait, this is so, let's get a cocktail outside.
I love how you never want to drink before, and now you're like, should I party?
I actually sent a message to a few people, and I said, what are your thoughts on like doing like a day party situation one day this summer? Like, going to like a day party place? And they were like, no, we're almost 40.
That's crazy, cuz I taught Dez on burner phone this week what a dartie is. He was like, "You made that up." And I'm like, "It's a day party, dartie. You never heard about darties?"
And then you fall asleep.
You wanna know what? That's probably a very millennial college term.
So millennial. Oh my god. Someone was at Wimbledon, one of my friends was at Wimbledon, and I posted FOMO, but I put tennis balls as the O's. And then I screenshot it and I sent it to Grace, and I was like, "Am I in millennial jail?"
And she said, "Absolutely."
She was like, "I'm blocking your number."
Oh, one more thing about Love Island.
As someone who hasn't watched it, the heart rate challenge made me laugh, though, cuz I was like, "What's heart rate challenge for millennials?" Like, is it like when you see,
the dishwasher get too full? And your heart rate goes up?
Wait, you know, I had a very niche one today.
What?
It doesn't even have to be a doctor's office. Honestly, it was like a CVS. Whenever I have a missed call and like a voicemail for like something that I have to get like a prescription, I'm literally getting like a skin prescription. I'm getting Tretinoin, going back to Tretinoin. I got a pimple injected the other day, and I started doing laser genesis.
What's laser genesis? That sounds like an alien life form.
Hold on. We need to have a page corner.
Sounds like a UFO.
For the pages, listen up.
Hannah's doodle on your notebook.
Occupy yourselves.
Okay, so I get a lot of messages from girls asking like what lasers I've done, because we're so vocal about like not having Botox yet.
I've never got one message like that. Continue.
Right. So my one girlfriend sells pretty much all of the devices that go into dermatologist's offices. So like she'll always like send me like what she thinks I should do, or like what dermatologist, whatever. So I texted her the other day and I was like, I have a pimple and I need to go to a dermatologist immediately, if not sooner tomorrow morning to get it injected. She was like, I literally have the perfect one for you. It's right by my apartment. I go, she injects my pimple and she's like, let's start laser genesis. It's supposed to help with hyperpigmentation, building collagen, hydration, fine lines. It's supposed to be like everything before botox.
Got it.
You do a series of like, I think she said like six sessions and she recommends doing a series of six sessions twice a year. So I'm starting with, I just did my first appointment. I go again in two weeks. I think I did it once before, but I never like followed up and completed like all the sessions.
Do you have to stay out of the sun?
No downtime. Zero, like you get the laser and then you go. Same as like if you were
like going about your day, like you're putting moisturizer on and sunscreen, but nothing like crazy.
Pain level?
Nothing. And I don't have a high pain tolerance. I mean, I do when it comes to beauty stuff, but like if I can do it, it's fine. Um, it's like a little hot, but it doesn't feel anything close to like laser hair removal.
Yeah, I get my butthole lasered.
Yeah, so you're fine. Um, so I'm gonna do that and let the gigglers know what I truly think. Um, because I feel like I have a lot of brides in my DM that are like, do you think I should do this before my wedding?
Hmm. Yeah, I also tried to do a laser like last year. I went and because I was trying to get botox for my armpits and didn't go through. Anyway, and they were like, you should do this laser. And I was like, let's do it. And they were like, oh no, you have to like book that like next week. And I'm like, I'm never gonna see you again.
So it was probably laser genesis because I feel like everyone our age is doing it.
Okay.
Um, but anyway, so I want to let the gigglers know that I'll let them know what I think, because it is expensive, so.
You want to make sure that you see effects from it.
Yeah, and I feel like things are just like more expensive in New York City because because it's so annoying, but um, it's definitely expensive, but we'll see if it's worth it.
I have an astrologer update. No, sorry, I have a psychic medium update.
I saw a psychic last week.
Wait, you know, you know, I like to go on your schedule. I just saw it, you're one, and I like to do it when you do it.
Yeah, I know. So actually, I talked to Spirit Tiff. It's like Spirit T I F F. She's amazing. She's, and she's also like, she's gone to my shows. We were just DMing and she's like, I haven't talked to you in a while. Do you want to have a reading? And I was like, I'll never say no to that.
My grandpa came through. I wanted to let you guys know, but some crazy shit happened.
What? I can't believe we've been into the pod fifty-two minutes and you're just saying this.
No, because my list was so long.
So she was like, oh, your grandpa loves like the room you're in right now, because there's like a lot of sun. And like, I am in the sunroom, and like, the reason I love this place is because the sunroom reminds me of the sunroom that used to be in his house. Like, it has the same tile floors and like wood on the ceiling. And I was like, oh my god, and she's like, he loves your setup, he loves it so much. And she goes, are there flowers to your right? No, sorry, flowers to your left. And I was like, oh no, there aren't. And she's like, there aren't any white flowers to your left? And I was like, no, maybe outside, but I don't see any. And he's, she's like, he's pointing to your left. I'm seeing a white flower with yellow insides. And I'm like, no. And then I look down.
My punch needle.
Oh my god. That I'm showing on the YouTube right now is white flowers with yellow inside that was on the left of me. And she's like, he just wants to let you know he's here and he's guarding you.
And he loves your punch in it all.
And he thinks you have issues because punching is fucking crazy.
That's so grandpa of him. He's like, wow, look at that punch in it all.
But like, that was one of the craziest things that's ever happened.
Wait, that's, yeah.
And she was just like, he's watching over you, he's there for you. He loves that you talk about him all the time.
And that, I feel like, happens so much with psychic mediums. You'll be like, okay, I'll go into it with a grain of salt. And they'll say something like that. And you're like, and tell me all your secrets.
Tell me all, so she's amazing. She's also just like easy to talk to and cool, but um, they also just help you be like, yeah, keep listening to your intuition. Like, do your thing.
It's almost like a re, that's why I like to do it like once a year and I usually do it at the beginning of the year. Because it is just like a reset of reassurance of certain things. So you're like, okay.
It's also just like, if you feel uncomfortable is probably a reason and you know what it is. And just to always go back to like who you actually are and stop trying to be someone else is like, period.
That's why I'm wearing my natural curly hair.
And that's why you've gone back to your curls. You're fucking Shirley Temple over here. Um, I've also been watching TV.
What have you been watching?
I started the show Mr. Robot. Have you watched it before?
No, is that on Apple?
It's on Netflix. It came back. It's like started in 2016 with um,
2016?
Yeah, with Rami Malek.
He played um, the singer in the Queen.
Queen, yeah. It's interesting. It's basically like Dexter for coding.
Um, so if you're, so honestly, like, I'm, I'm not sure about it, but I, I like got through it, if that makes sense.
I feel like I have no shows this summer. Wait, you know what someone said on TikTok and it's like so eerily true? This summer doesn't have a theme.
The girls are scrambling.
Like, someone dropped the ball on the summer theme. There's no summer show.
Well, people have tried, but nothing's... I think Love Island has like honestly taken this toll on the community.
It's taken a toll.
People tried to do Tomato Girl Summer. People tried to do Sardine Girl Summer, which is very meat-coated. I knew that wasn't gonna stick.
I guess, I guess maybe sardine. But last summer it was so, it's brat summer. It's hot girl summer.
And then Charlie tried to be like, "It's still brat summer." And we were like, "No, you can't repeat like that."
We have no, we have nothing. And I feel like I don't have a summer show. Like, the two shows I'm watching, Gilded Age and Buccaneers, it's like I have to wait each week.
My mom is watching that because she knows you love those shows and she says you guys have the same taste.
No, a period piece will ju... Oh, it just puts me in a good mood.
But I have been back on my bullshit with documentaries. I kind of think you might like this if you got high.
It's called The Shark Whisperer.
On...
How high do you want me to get?
More than Bader Blocker High. Okay, bear with me. This girl's like gorgeous, like blonde.
I'm in. You know I love watching pretty people on TV.
Yeah, but she's pretty, right?
Done.
And she basically has always loved sharks. And I was like, okay, like do you. I support a girl, woman in arts.
Have a hobby.
Yeah, so, but her whole thing is she's like, if sharks wanted to eat everyone, they would.
So she's like, "I don't think sharks are this evil scary monster that they've been put out in the media, like Jaws and stuff." And I'm like, "Okay, okay, I love a villain-turning story. Like, let's go." And she's basically like...
Swims with sharks in the wild. And can go down for like six minutes because she says it's mental.
She's learned how they communicate.
She's a fish.
And she's a friend of theirs and she went viral because she takes photos with them. Because she's trying to raise awareness to stop just killing sharks for shark fin soup and that kind of thing.
Shark fin soup?
Shark fin soup is like a huge thing in Asia.
The hell is out here doing shark fin soup?
Hundreds of thousands of sharks are killed a year to just cut off their fin for this like delicacy. So she's fighting for the sharks, but she basically is like these sharks. They get scared. That's why sometimes they'll bite and then be like ew and like people just get bitten, but.
This is so funny because a couple of weeks ago, my dad was talking about the summer we went to Martha's Vineyard and how we like stayed in the ocean the whole time and there were so many sharks and they were watching them from like helicopters. And I said, well, from the helicopters, then why don't they just shoot them? And my dad looks at me, he goes, that's highly illegal.
Wait, Gary supports the sharks.
He supports the sharks.
Shark supporter. Well, you're watching it and you realize that they're like gaining trust in her and she basically basically showed them that she was a predator too. And held herself confidently around them to and it's incredible. So it's also like aesthetically beautiful. They're like in the ocean and she's like kissing these sharks.
But it's just cool to see how there's different perspectives on stuff and sharks aren't monsters.
Sharks are friends, not food.
Well, you guys, thank you for giggling with us. We're so sorry we didn't do an episode last week and honestly, we regret it. That was fucked up. We were scared.
Honestly, we were forced into not doing it.
We were, it was doctor's orders. Um, I have to go do my road lesson. Thank you to all the gigglers who have been sending me advice on like where to take the test, what's, and give me parallel parking advice. I'm reading everything. You guys are amazing.
Our DMs couldn't be more different.
Um, also, Southampton Animal Shelter is overloaded with kittens. Check them out and my kittens are going to be available for adoption soon. So just keep an eye out.
I told the dog this weekend to stop following me.
That's for next week. Bye.
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