#2305 - Rich Vos

Rich Vos is a standup comic, writer, and actor. He's the host, along with his wife Bonnie McFarland, of the podcasts "My Wife Hates Me," and "For Worse." Catch his most recent special, "Rich Vos: Anonymous," on Youtube. https://amzn.to/3NQJ2T0 www.richvos.com Go to ExpressVPN.com/ROGAN to get 4 months free! Download the DraftKings Pick6 app NOW and use code ROGAN. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Help is available for problem gambling. Call (888) 789-7777 or visit ccpg.org (CT). 18+ in most eligible jurisdictions, but other age and eligibility restrictions may apply. Valid only in jurisdictions where DraftKings Pick6 operates. Pick6 not available everywhere, including, but not limited to NY, and CA-ONT (for up-to-date list of jurisdictions please visit pick6.draftkings.com/where-is-pick6-available). Void where prohibited. 1 per new Pick6 customer. $5+ first Pick Set to receive $50 issued as non-withdrawable Pick6 Credits that expire in 14 days (336 hours). Ends 5/4/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Terms: pick6.draftkings.com/promos Sponsored by DraftKings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:14Joe Rogan?

  How are you, fella? Good to see you.

• 0:16Speaker 02

  Dude, you're fucking dripping with diamonds, sir. What's going on? The road's been good to you. Look at you. I'm just so empty inside. This fills the hole for like, like, it's like, you know, you go buy, you're like, oh, and then you get home and you go, I hate my life. I hate my insides and no spirituality, but I get to look at my just emptiness on, you know. Dripping with wrapper diamonds. I've ran out of, I've ran out of shit to buy. So like, there's nothing. What kind of car you driving? Lexus IS350. Oh, those are fun. It's nice. That's a good car. Bulletproof. Never, never gonna break. And it's so fast and it's, you know, it's, but this is how fucked it, okay, so the two,

• 1:00Speaker 02

  okay, I had the Lexus 350, right? Right. I went, and I had it for seven months, maybe. I went in to get it serviced and I was kind of depressed, so I bought a different car. I said, I go, this is not, this is fucked up. So I bought the IS350. I had the other car for seven fucking months. I go, you know what? That one looks cool. So I bought that and then I went in to get it, that service and it was the exact same car a year later, but I liked the newer color, the newer gray. Oh. That gray, that whatever weird gray. Like a slate gray?

• 1:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's like, it looks good. I said, you know what, fuck, give me this car. So you keep swapping them out? Yeah. They must love you. Yeah, they, I'm such a mooch. On one, one year of my wife's birthday, I bought myself a new car on her birthday. I bought a BMW, on her birthday, but happy birthday. We could drive around in this. Oh, my God. That probably played off well. Ah, fuck.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  I buy her cars, I just so you know.

• 2:15Speaker 02

  I get bored easy, I get bored easy and it's cause of. You know, in life.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  In life. Really like I see. Some of my friends doing arenas, doing this, doing that, but I have enough, I really have enough. But. It's not enough, do you know what I'm saying, does that make sense? Yeah. I, I, one, I think for my, not for my personal life, my personal life, I got three fucking great daughters. Two, uh, three grandkids, another one on the way. My seven year old is gonna go to college, has. Pick of all kinds of schools, you know, good schools, I fucking, in 11th grade, I raised my hand to go to the bathroom and I never came back, I just walked out, like I'm a fucking idiot, you know.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  Uh, my past and my kids all grew up, okay, the old one married a black guy, but he's light skin, but anyhow, the. Prettiest baby on the planet. So. I have enough, but when it comes to career as a comic and you know. Just, I, one more fucking thing. Just one more thing, you know what I'm saying? I do know what you're saying. Uh, I don't know. I don't know what it is, you know, I've had specials, not Netflix, but it's always, it's like I'm always. Doing the other club. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm always. And I'm very.

• 3:46Speaker 02

  Blessed and I, and I love what I've achieved in this business, but it seems like it's always like. Uh, okay, I got a special on Amazon now, but it's not. It wasn't. Amazon didn't buy it, we placed it on that, you know what I'm saying? So it's always, there's always one little thing, when every pilot my wife and I have had together, I've had.

• 4:12Speaker 02

  Gets this close to getting picked up, you know, like I've heard, some of the no's I've heard. They almost sounded like yeses. They were such good no's. I walked out and go, that was the best no today. That fucking no almost felt like a yes. So, in this business.

• 4:28Joe Rogan?

  Do you think you put something in your mind to make all these things kind of fall short? Have you ever thought of that?

• 4:34Speaker 02

  Well, that's what my wife says.

• 4:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Do you ever, you ever thought that like maybe the way you interface with the world is like your expectations are tempered? Like in a way where you almost wanna fail because it's more comforting that it happened again. Rather than this new thing of success, which is gonna force you to really focus and work harder to get more success. And it's a lot of pressure. And then you think about all the times you fucked up before and you don't wanna hear, you don't wanna hear no again. You don't wanna hear it, but you feel like it's coming and you almost make it come.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  Well, I get that. In life, growing up. From my childhood through drug addiction. I became comfortable being uncomfortable. That was my life.

• 5:22Joe Rogan?

  Right. Comfortable being in the skids.

• 5:25Speaker 02

  Being, yeah, this was what I was used to. In this business. I don't, I don't really ever set myself up for failure. I mean, I produce. I come up with albums. I on state, I'm always coming up with new material. And I got seven albums. I'll probably make an eighth album, which is a pretty. It's a lot for a career, I would imagine.

• 5:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's great.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  I don't go into clubs and drink. I don't, uh, hit on waitresses. You know, so I don't know, but my wife says the exact same thing you're saying. My wife said to me once. She said, cause I had this power of thinking, like when I think really hard, it comes to me shit, right? And my wife goes, if you think you, uh, deserve a million dollars. You'll get a million dollars. And I said. God gives you what you need, not what you want. And then she said, you think Chelsea Handler needed a TV show? So she kinda like debunked my whole need, you know, and want thing. I.

• 6:38Speaker 02

  If you believe in some kinda power greater than your spiritual, I'm not religious by any fucking but I shit comes to me, I don't think I uh fucking

• 6:54Speaker 02

  screw things up. I don't screw things up like, you know, in meetings or when we do pilots or whatever. I I do what I'm supposed to do, so I don't know. I mean, in comedy, yeah, for years, I might've been a little aggressive on stage or, you know, a little, whatever. You know, uh I think everything now, especially now with clubs or whatever, it's all numbers. They don't give a fuck if you light the waitstaff on fire. If you sold out the room, they go, oh, great, you were fabulous, you know? I was, I was working catch years ago, I was at catch and

• 7:34Speaker 02

  Bill Hicks, okay, so David Brenner's on stage and this is, they love David Brenner. He's killing, killing, he is during the peak of David Brenner. He gets off, Bill Wa- Bill Hicks goes up and he says, "Growing up as a kid, I would see Robert Klein and David Brenner and I figure if they could do it, I could do it." That was his opening. So now he's doing his bit about Nancy Reagan, skinny, whatever, and calling her the anti, I mean, people are running out the door. They're running out the door. And then he gets offstage and he, he says to me, he goes, "What went wrong?" But I swear to God, he goes, "What went wrong?"

• 8:18Joe Rogan?

  Was he serious?

• 8:19Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 8:20Joe Rogan?

  Or was he joking around?

• 8:20Speaker 02

  No, he was, he

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• 11:07Speaker 02

  Whatever. He was building. I don't know. It's hard to tell with him. Yeah. But anyhow, the manager or booker now after said to him...

• 11:17Speaker 02

  You can come and do a spot here anytime you want. Because he was Bill Hicks. Do you see what I'm saying? He was Bill Hicks. You know, I worked with him in Texas. So when I first started, and I'm watching him, you know.

• 11:33Speaker 02

  And we'll get back on track, I'm sorry to go off on these things.

• 11:36Joe Rogan?

  Don't go wherever you want to go.

• 11:37Speaker 02

  So, we're working in Texas. He, he just breaks up, his girlfriend breaks up with him at the time, it's a true story. So he goes, "Uh, where can you get a hooker? A prostitute and a cab driver?"

• 11:51Joe Rogan?

  I'd like to hear you to clarify.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know, that's, you know, there's a lot of these young kids now that listen, okay? A prostitute, okay? So, the cab driver takes him to one house, because they would take you to the... And, and I go with him, he goes, "Take a ride." So, then we go to one house, she knocks on the door. And she opens the door and goes, "You're a cop." And slammed the door on him.

• 12:20Speaker 02

  Slammed the door in his face.

• 12:23Joe Rogan?

  He looks like a cop.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  Then he went, but he also, the next place the cab driver took him. She opened the door and goes, "You're too young," and slammed the door on him.

• 12:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 12:33Speaker 02

  The next night, he did ten minutes, or whatever, on how he can't, can't pick up a prostitute in Lubbock, Texas. And I go, "I'll never be this funny as long as I fucking live." Like, I've watched people going, "Amazing."

• 12:51Speaker 02

  You know, and, uh, then I was running then with Bastille. That's when I was running with Bastille.

• 12:57Joe Rogan?

  Frankie Bastille?

• 12:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, he, so he, I'll tell you a good story. I think I told you this story, I've told this story, and it's been told, but I don't know if I told it last, years ago when I did this. And then I'll get back to it, I'm, I'm not, uh, self sabotaging. That's what you were getting to in my head, in my self sabotaging.

• 13:15Joe Rogan?

  No, not, not self sabotaging. I don't think it's a self sabotage thing, it's a not understanding the energy that you're putting out there. And being accustomed to a certain result. Okay, if you're accustomed to missing your playing pool, you're accustomed to missing the nine ball, you're gonna miss that fucking nine ball every time.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  Well, it happens in golf, too.

• 13:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'm sure. Same thing. You gotta, um, reset the way you think about things. And if there's something that's eating away at you, that bothers you, that occupies your thoughts, you have to figure out what that is and clean that up. That's a big part of the problem with a lot of people. A lot of the problem with a lot of people is maybe they don't like something about themselves, they don't like what they've done, they don't like, you know, choices they've made. And that's in your head all the time. You're like, you're, you know, the lack of clarity, the lack of peace is in your head all the time. And, you know, it's not, this is not an easy thing I'm saying. I'm not saying this is like, okay, here's the real formula.

• 14:17Joe Rogan?

  Just go out, follow these three steps and you're gonna be rich and famous. It's not that. It's just that success generally happens when you've got as many pieces as possible in order correctly. And failure generally happens when you're overwhelmed by too many things that are not working right. And you've, your, your, your attention and your focus is on them. You're divided. You know, a lot of times you see it's like a terrible relationship. I've known a lot of really talented people that sabotage themselves with a terrible relationship. And they think somehow or another that this is just how relationships are and they're terrible in that relationship, like.

• 15:02Joe Rogan?

  And then they can never be who they could be. They can never reach their full potential because they're always burdened down by these fucking squabbles they're having with their girlfriend or their boyfriend. You know, it's.

• 15:14Speaker 02

  That's also true, a god thing where you think I could fix this person or I could change him. No one can change him. He what?

• 15:23Joe Rogan?

  I cried out his whole life. I would tell him, get out now. I would, I'd meet his girlfriend, I'd be like, get out now. I met a girl, I wanted a girl that he dated, I literally, within five seconds of saying hello to her, I go, come here. I pulled him aside. Cut to, okay? He doesn't listen. You know, later that night, like, she's drinking wine, she's fucking hamburger. It's a disaster. She winds up living with him. Eventually figures it out, gets rid of her. Couple of years later, he's walking down the street on Sunset and she's street walking.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  No.

• 15:52Joe Rogan?

  Yes, girl he was living with at one point in time. This is Brian Callen. He's like, he felt abandoned when he was young. And so he, I believe I'm speaking for him. Um, and so he's, he's a sweet guy and he tries to reach out and fix people.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Well, here's my Brian Callen story, it's very funny. I was middling for him at, uh, Caroline's, which will never happen again. Cause Caroline's is close. Uh, I'm middling for him. So I get off stage and I'm single. This fucking smoking hot girl comes up to me and she goes, come on, let's leave. Right? Now, I go, ah, I gotta sell my DVDs or CDs. I have to sell my DVDs or CDs after the show. I'm sitting there selling CDs and I see Brian walk out with her right past me up the stairs.

• 16:50Speaker 02

  I fucked up, but maybe I didn't, who knows?

• 16:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, you definitely didn't, cause Bonnie's awesome.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  No, I wasn't.

• 16:56Joe Rogan?

  Worked out for you in the long run, but it's, yeah. You definitely should have left with her.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  No, I shouldn't have because that's where, that in life is where I was supposed to be at that time when I was there.

• 17:08Joe Rogan?

  Okay, I see what you're saying.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 17:10Joe Rogan?

  No, you're correct.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  Anything could happen.

• 17:12Joe Rogan?

  What if, what if she's a nightmare and then you miss out on the whatever, four hundred, five hundred bucks you would have made selling DVDs?

• 17:18Speaker 02

  Oh, I didn't make that much. I never know.

• 17:21Joe Rogan?

  A hundred.

• 17:23Joe Rogan?

  Even a hundred. Now you're going to a nice restaurant. You know?

• 17:27Speaker 02

  Who knows, who knows? Uh, you know, it's this whole negative thing with my.

• 17:36Speaker 02

  And this isn't ego by any stretch when I say stuff like this. And.

• 17:44Speaker 02

  I've, and my wife's, I know I've earned respect from my peers. I know it, cuz I've done-

• 17:51Joe Rogan?

  You definitely have.

• 17:51Speaker 02

  From, from white to black comics, black comics that most white comics don't even know. You know what I mean, you know?

• 17:58Joe Rogan?

  We did a lot of those rooms back in the day.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  I did all, yeah, I ended all those TV shows. I did them all.

• 18:03Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  You know, uh, please, I started black comedy. So, okay, you can only hold a white man down so long. So, and, and like, I think in life, I'm more about respect than accomplishment. You see what I'm saying?

• 18:23Joe Rogan?

  Okay, right, so you, you more about the respect from your peers?

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Not only my peers, the industry too, though. The industry doesn't know, like, say some club owner, let's say a club owner.

• 18:33Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  They're not sitting in the room watching your shows. All they care about are the fucking numbers that come in. They don't, I had a club owner once, I said to him, "And you're lucky, you're way out of that." But, I'm still, I'm in that. So I said to a club owner once, he goes, I said, "Look, I'm as funny as I've ever been, right now in life." He goes, "That doesn't fucking matter, what does that matter?" And it's all a quick fix.

• 18:56Joe Rogan?

  Right, they just wanna sell tickets.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  Sell tickets, and I get it, they gotta keep the doors open, but-

• 19:00Joe Rogan?

  That's the weird marriage between the club owner and the comic, you know? I used to tell comics, you know, we're not, every comic feels like they're battling it with club owners. Like, the club owner's never given them enough money, the club owner's fucking them over, lied about it being sold out. It was definitely sold out, I want my bonus, that kinda shit.

• 19:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:20Joe Rogan?

  You don't wanna be a club owner. You don't, you don't. I mean, I, I, I give that advice, then I became one. But, just by necessity. But I was like, this is an important relationship, like, you gotta be nice to them, and so they respect you, and- You should, cuz everybody in the beginning, you feel like you're ignored by them. But that's, it's a weird thing because they're just in the business of comedy. Unless you get like, like Brian Dorfman and Zany's, he really loves comedy. You know, there's a few Wendy from, from Comedy Works in Denver.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  I'll tell my Wendy story in a few.

• 19:51Joe Rogan?

  I love Wendy. Better be a good story.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  It's a, you'll like it.

• 19:54Joe Rogan?

  Okay, but, but my point is, it's like.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  Well, Corey in Rhode Island's one of the best fucking nicest guys on the planet.

• 20:01Joe Rogan?

  Rhode Island's?

• 20:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:02Joe Rogan?

  What's that one?

• 20:02Speaker 02

  Uh, Comedy Connection.

• 20:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  Mark, Mark and Rochester.

• 20:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  To me, Dean, James and Governors.

• 20:11Joe Rogan?

  The Comedy Connection in Rhode Island's weird because you're in a bank.

• 20:13Speaker 02

  It's, I know.

• 20:14Joe Rogan?

  So strange. They turned a bank into a comedy club.

• 20:16Speaker 02

  That's how bad the market's doing.

• 20:18Joe Rogan?

  Uh, well, that was in the eighties, he did that. That was when I was a kid.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  It's such a, he fixed the whole thing up.

• 20:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's great.

• 20:24Speaker 02

  The whole camera system.

• 20:25Joe Rogan?

  It's a great club. It was always a great club. Plus, there's not a lot in Rhode Island, so when you go there, people are so happy to see you.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  It's, yeah, it's, uh, my, uh, and I'm not bad mouthing her, Wendy. I don't know her like this. So, uh, I worked a club twice. And the second time I worked there was Halloween weekend. I mean, there was a guy in the audience in blackface, whatever, you know, so.

• 20:50Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 20:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, this was, I don't know, ten, fifteen years ago.

• 20:54Joe Rogan?

  Ten, fifteen years ago?

• 20:55Speaker 02

  Ten years ago. But wait a second. So, she, she wasn't even there the week.

• 21:01Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  She tells my manager, I did a lot of crowd work, whatever, yeah. So anyhow, this is, so, uh, I'm working at Syracuse Funny Bone. And my middle, very funny guy, I think he passed away, he was an older guy, really great joke writer. He's from Denver. He goes, oh, I do a podcast with Wendy. And he sees that I'm closing and he goes, I'll talk to her. So I email Wendy and I go, hey, listen, why don't we start from scratch? Let bygones be bygones. Start over, whatever. Uh, I, you know, I'd love to come back in. And she doesn't get back to me, so I write,

• 21:45Speaker 02

  "By your lack of response, it looks like you want to move forward. Here are some available dates."

• 21:50Joe Rogan?

  (laughing).

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Right? And she, she doesn't get back to me again.

• 21:55Joe Rogan?

  Shocker.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  And I write, "Can I bring my own middle?"

• 22:01Speaker 02

  What do I care?

• 22:02Joe Rogan?

  Right, it's over.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  It's funny, I'm trying to be funny.

• 22:04Joe Rogan?

  So she was just upset that you did crowd work? That's it?

• 22:06Speaker 02

  No, well, she was, the numbers were low, probably. It was Halloween weekend. But I, listen, I work enough. And, and, you know, I'm saying, I'm not bad mouthing any of these people. Cause you bad mouth, you're the one who looks bad. I'm not bad mouthing them. She's got a business to run, whatever she's gotta do, just like any of them. They have a business to run. If this is who they're gonna bring in to keep their doors open, I'll always find fucking work. I don't care. You know what I'm saying?

• 22:32Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Uh, so, and industry wise, I mean, now it's a whole, look, my wife is killing it cause she's a writer and a comic and, you know, she's writing movies, she's punching out movies, she wrote for the Golden Globes, you know? She has different outlets.

• 22:49Joe Rogan?

  Wants to go?

• 22:50Speaker 02

  No, no, that's cool.

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• 24:28Speaker 02

  God, when I quit cigars, I quit cigars because I was scared I was gonna start smoking. You probably would. I probably would because it would lead, you know. Yeah, you're puffing on tobacco. Yeah. You're gonna wanna inhale it. That's why, you know, I can't even put a dick in my mouth because I'm scared. I understand. You know that. So, uh, uh, you know, she has different outlets as a stand-up. I'm just a stand-up. I'm a club comic. I love, you know, I do theaters, I do whatever, but I love doing, uh, I really like doing clubs. So it sounds like you're doing exactly what you wanna do. Yes. So what the fuck's the problem? I don't think there is a problem, but it's, I said just one more thing to put it over the top. Do you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. One more, uh... You're never totally satisfied, Rich Fox.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  Well, that's a good point, yes. I'm a, I'm an addict. Yeah. You know, so, look, here's, here's my fucking, here's how fucked up I am. How fucked up are you? I'm gonna tell you right now, Sam. As you glitter in diamonds. And this is not in the, in the morning, I drink my coffee, I sit at the table. Sounds like me. And I put a bird feeder and I watch the birds feed and it's very relaxing. Yeah. Watching them all come and feed, it's very, very relaxing. Right. Okay. Now, I have seven bird feeders around my property because I figured, well, this'll be seven times more relaxing. No, now you got bird chaos.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  No, but they're all over. I, I mean, I got ones that I, with a video camera, I could see who's coming to squirrel. I don't care if the squirrel eats, you know, but it's my addictive personality. Right. Where... You always want more. A little more. Yeah, just a little more, new car, different color, same car. Yeah. Yeah, one more ring. One more ring. One more tattoo. I took two off, uh, you know, so it's, and I, I work on myself. I go to meetings, two, three a week. You know, I... Still, after all these years? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you still feel the pull after all these years? No, I haven't got gambling to fall back on. I, uh... What are you gambling on? What am I gambling on? Yeah. Well...

• 26:38Speaker 02

  I mean, once in a while, I'll play on my phone at night, uh, slots.

• 26:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy.

• 26:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, I did real well.

• 26:46Joe Rogan?

  Uh, you made money?

• 26:47Speaker 02

  One, yeah, last year.

• 26:49Joe Rogan?

  I gotta say, slots on your phone, sounds like the dumbest fucking idea. Because there is no way it's not fixed. At least a slot machine is random.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Well, slots in the casinos, the biggest sucker bet on the planet. I'll play craps. If I'm gonna play, if I'm gonna gamble on a machine, I'm gonna play craps like a man.

• 27:09Joe Rogan?

  You know what drives me fucking crazy? When I hear that someone hits the slots and then they won't give out. They won't give the money, because there was, oh, there was an error with the machine.

• 27:17Speaker 02

  That's bullshit.

• 27:18Joe Rogan?

  I've heard that many times. Like, fuck your error. Give that guy his money.

• 27:23Speaker 02

  This is what I won last year on slots.

• 27:26Joe Rogan?

  Let me see this. Really?

• 27:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:29Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 27:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:30Joe Rogan?

  How'd you do that?

• 27:31Speaker 02

  Two jackpots.

• 27:32Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  But now I keep playing, think I'll get more. Think I'll hit the big one.

• 27:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, that's how they get you.

• 27:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, okay.

• 27:40Joe Rogan?

  I have a friend who's very wealthy and is a fucking degenerate gambler. Dana White, from the USA?

• 27:46Speaker 02

  Oh, I see the videos.

• 27:48Joe Rogan?

  Degenerate. He's a nut. I was just reading an article about Hunter Campbell, who's a financial officer. Was like, trying to talk to him, just saying, you're ma- like, you're killing me. Like, why are you doing this? He loves it.

• 28:00Speaker 02

  Loves it. It's, there's shit that goes off in your head, even, even when you lose, you're like, I mean, I...

• 28:11Joe Rogan?

  Makes you feel like you're alive. Something's happening.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  I was in Vegas, and I walked to the table with 300 bucks, crap table. And it's me, and the whole table is, I mean, I held the dice for almost an hour, 300. I turned into 5,000. The table's going nuts. I'm, I'm winning everybody formula and diapers at the table. They're fucking yelling. Cat with a hat. And if, it's just such a, you know, and then, for the rest of the week, I didn't gamble again, because I go, I can't follow that. I'm not gonna be able to do that again. So, it's not like... I'm obsessed with it.

• 28:52Speaker 02

  Numbers, I am kind of, but, you know, I've been to casinos and worked for three, four days and not even played. But what, but when I do, it's like, like me, my wife and I were in Canada and we went to a casino. I go, well, let me go back to the hotel and put some, put my credit cards and money there. And she goes, you can't go into a casino with all your money and credit cards. I go.

• 29:20Joe Rogan?

  How does she ask that question? She knows you.

• 29:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know.

• 29:23Joe Rogan?

  She should know you can't. She's fucking with you.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, well.

• 29:26Joe Rogan?

  She knows you can't.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, but she does.

• 29:27Joe Rogan?

  She should say, good for you.

• 29:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 29:30Joe Rogan?

  She should say, good for you. That's smart.

• 29:32Speaker 02

  But she didn't know me when I was an addict.

• 29:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 29:35Speaker 02

  She never saw me when I was out there.

• 29:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but I, well, I guess I did. I knew you when you were an addict, but.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:41Joe Rogan?

  But I, you, but you cleaned up nice. You really did. You figured it out well. You really did. So like, she should, she should know that.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, not to go to the casino.

• 29:51Joe Rogan?

  Be a little bit more supportive.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  That's what I'm trying to say.

• 29:53Joe Rogan?

  How about that, Bonnie?

• 29:54Speaker 02

  You know what? That's what I'm trying to say. I mean, we're now.

• 29:58Joe Rogan?

  You guys are one of the funniest couples of all time, though.

• 30:00Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 30:01Joe Rogan?

  There's like a few, like Christina Pizzi and Tom Segura, Natasha Leggero, Moshe Kasher. There's a few, like, you know, people say, like, comics shouldn't date comics. Well, I don't know about that, because sometimes it fucking works really well.

• 30:15Speaker 02

  What am I gonna do? Come home to a dentist? You know, and for me, you know, we, you know, we really come together when we find the same enemy and the same person we could trash.

• 30:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  You know, or we talk comedy, we make each other laugh. Yeah, we fight and have all the fucking, you know, we're a married couple.

• 30:35Joe Rogan?

  And you're comics.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, and we're kind, so.

• 30:38Joe Rogan?

  So you're talking shit.

• 30:39Speaker 02

  Well, to be, to be a male comic, you gotta be fucked up. To be a female comic, that's a whole nother level of fucking up. Because, you know, they go on a road, they gotta worry about everything.

• 30:52Joe Rogan?

  They gotta worry about fans. Yeah, they gotta worry about fans attacking them.

• 30:55Speaker 02

  Where they're staying, what it's like.

• 30:58Joe Rogan?

  Getting stalked. Oh, yeah, it's horrible.

• 31:00Speaker 02

  And thank you for saying we're funny. Yeah, we, we're together.

• 31:02Joe Rogan?

  You guys are very funny. It's like, you know, I was using it as an example, because comics will say all the time, don't date comics. And I'm like, ah, I don't know about that. I don't know about that because like, why not? I don't think you should never date, bluh. Although I stopped dating Italians when I was 21.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah?

• 31:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's just like, the last one swung at me. I was like, I'm done.

• 31:26Speaker 02

  Well, I only dated-

• 31:27Joe Rogan?

  As she was swinging, I was like, I can't believe she's swinging at me.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  That's hilarious.

• 31:30Joe Rogan?

  Like, while this was happening, her arm was pulling back, it was coming towards my face, like, I can't fucking believe this is happening.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  Well, I only date Irish, like, I can't afford a Jew broad, so I went- I went fucking Irish. I'd rather go to fucking Marshalls than Barney's. You know?

• 31:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, also, like, you probably, well, the thing about Jewish women, the stereotype is that they're very controlling.

• 31:55Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 31:56Joe Rogan?

  They're, you know, it's like, uh, how the mom is, you know? It's like, you take that role of like, the mom of the house, then your wife becomes your mom. That's the stereotype.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:06Joe Rogan?

  I'm not saying it's always that way.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  Very, a little naggy.

• 32:11Joe Rogan?

  A little naggy.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  You know?

• 32:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  And, I mean, look, fucking Bonnie grew up on a farm killing chickens, you know?

• 32:17Joe Rogan?

  Perfect.

• 32:17Speaker 02

  She's fucking, I-

• 32:18Joe Rogan?

  She's good for the, like, when the revelation comes.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  And, not only that, I have running water. Uh, you know, they had a fucking, they slept on the floor. She grew up like I did, poor, poor. And we started dating, I mean, I was already in the business for I don't know how many years. I, it's like, they say, don't date comics. Yeah, well, if you're a new comic, and they're a new comic, it's gonna be competition the whole time. It's gonna be jealousy, but I was already established and she was established.

• 32:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be, it could be, but it doesn't, like, these, these like, hard, fast rules, they don't work. It all completely depends on the individual. I mean, how different are comics? Like, how different are you to Shane Gillis? How different am I to Ari Shaffir? Like, we're all different, even though we're all real good friends, we're all, there's no hard rules.

• 33:10Speaker 02

  No.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  I luckily came up with the, one of the strongest crews in New York.

• 33:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you came up with an amazing, amazing crew? Patrice?

• 33:21Speaker 02

  Patrice, Norton, Billy, Bobby, Colin, you know, Kev-

• 33:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  Lil', you know, Kevin Hart.

• 33:29Joe Rogan?

  It was an amazing crew.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  You know, our crew and, you know, and Bonnie hung-

• 33:33Joe Rogan?

  Bro, I knew you back when you had Jerry curls.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  You knew me when I was doing Robin Gibbons bits.

• 33:41Speaker 02

  That's right, it was the eighties. You don't remember, you might remember, we were working a one nighter in Seaside, New Jersey. It was my ex-wife and me, you and her took a walk to the boardwalk. We were in Seaside, right on the boardwalk. And it was just me, you and her. I think you just came down from Boston and I don't think you were living in New York. I think you were just doing some shows, some one-nighters and shit. And we did a one-nighter, uh, okay, I probably first, it had to be, I got thirty-nine years with her. Probably like thirty-eight years ago. I, that doesn't even make sense, because I've been doing comedy for thirty, let me see, eighty-eight, ninety-seven, thirty-seven years.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  Okay, so then, I, okay, I was with Bonnie, so yeah, I mean Kelly, so I had, you're right, I had. That'd be like nineteen ninety then. Yeah, I had like four years clean. Ninety was when I first started coming to, um, New York. You were already clean by then? Yeah, yeah, so and I was already married. So, yeah, I had, I had five years clean. So it was maybe like thirty-four years ago, which could fall, or thirty-five. So, yeah, we're working a one-nighter. And I, I remember walking up the street, me, you and Bonnie, uh, to, uh, just to the boardwalk. I mean, uh, Kelly, Kelly. To the boardwalk. To the boardwalk, and it was just some one-nighter. And then, I don't know if we ever worked again together.

• 35:11Speaker 02

  Oh, well, Dangerfields, we did some stuff. We did Caroline's together too. I remember getting Caroline's with you. We did, oh, we did a lot of Dangerfield shows together. Yeah. You know, did we ever do prom shows together? Yes. Oh, Jesus. And, and. People should know what prom shows are. So, New York has a very weird thing where they take kids from like Staten Island and Brooklyn.

• 35:33Joe Rogan?

  And they bring them in in fucking buses to Dangerfields and the show would run from like 7pm till 5 in the morning.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  No break.

• 35:44Joe Rogan?

  No break. It just, you would go one show and you'd get paid by the show. It was like, it was good money. I forget what it was, but it was like, you get paid by, like you can make a couple grand in a night if you did the whole night. So you would do stand-up from 7pm to like 5am.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  But sometimes some of the shows were the same, some of the same crowd.

• 36:03Joe Rogan?

  Most of the shows.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:05Joe Rogan?

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• 37:53Speaker 02

  So we were doing proms at Dangerfields and this is all young kids and, you know, getting ready to go to college. And Ronnie goes on. He walks on stage in a robe drunk. He's not doing comedy. He's bumming the cra- he's talking about his divorce or death. Oh no. And all these guys are just, they're all looking at him like the jury from uh my cousin Vinny. When they were looking at the stuttering lawyer, their eyes were just going, what is going on with this man? Right? And he just, it was the most depr- and then I think Brian Regan had to follow him.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  And the fact, I mean, if you look at your career and some of mine and Brian Regan, we were doing prom shows. Yeah. I did, I did a, there was a contest at Rascals. And I think the winner got to do comedy on a plane.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  That was back when they smoked on planes. And I think John Stewart was one of the contestants. Like I remember doing, I remember doing some, or else it was a Johnny Walker competition. I was there, it was like me, John Stewart, Jim Gaffigan, you know, to do some Johnny Walker tour. I don't fucking know whatever the contest was, but it was all these contests, but you would see, look, I worked fucking clubs. I, I was working one club once and after the show, it was in Scranton, PA at a Holiday Inn. Me and another comic. After the show, the owner brings us in the back room and pulls out a gigantic bag of Coke.

• 39:41Speaker 02

  And says, you want Coke or money? And I took the Coke. And the guy who took the money is Adam Sandler and look where he is and look where I am. Adam Sandler took the money and old, he opened up, he was a guitar comic and he opened up. That was a Knicks Comedy Stop thing, Coke or Money? Oh yeah, I worked there. Did they offer you Coke or money back then? I don't, and I was getting high because when I first started comedy somehow they, uh, uh, what was his name? Uh, Dominic and Jackie.

• 40:13Speaker 02

  Or something, they liked me for some reason, and I stunk, but they would give me spots at Nick's. And I would get either money, but I would buy coke from Mike, the drug dealer that the Colombians killed. He was their coke dealer up there. I would stay behind a connection at the Milnor Hotel. Which was all prostitutes and drug addicts, right? And, you know, I would go up there and Nick's was giving me shows upstairs, downstairs. So the one time, the last time I was up in Boston, I did Springfield, Mass. and Westfield, Mass. Two fifty-two Elm and some other Norm LaFaux shit. Norm LaFaux, Western Massachusetts, yeah.

• 40:56Speaker 02

  So then I went to Nick's. I go, I'm not spending my money on drugs. I'm not, this, I'm coming home with fucking money, right? So I'm working this place called Plum's in Worcester. And this waitress, ah, fucking smoking hot, after the show.

• 41:15Speaker 02

  Uh, cause I did some coke bits. She goes, you do coke? I go, yeah. I go, I go, I go, I go. Do you, do you know where I can get any coke? And we couldn't get any coke in Boston. I'm not. We drove from Boston. I went back to New York, bought a bunch of crack. We got a hotel, smoked all night. I, we had sex, this and that. And it was Saturday night and I'm forty minutes from home. And I have one more show in Boston on a Sunday. And I have to drive her all the way back to Boston. No money left, maybe ten or twenty dollars, just enough to get back to Boston.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Do my show, luggage in a fucking paper bag. We stop on the way up in Hartford. Uh, we tried to buy coke or heroin and we got ripped off. She's crying because she's gonna lose her job. Fucking blood started pouring out of my nose as we're driving, just pouring out. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. I swear to God, right?

• 42:25Speaker 02

  Right? Well, and then she goes, my sister wants an ounce of coke. So I was gonna set her up and, and rip her off and, you know. Oh, boy. You know, get a free ounce of coke. Well, anyhow. Two weeks later, I I end up in rehab. That was my bottom. That fucking trip to Boston, I end up in rehab. And about a year or two later, I'm working Fort Lauderdale. And her sister's there with her boyfriend who's the size of a fucking house. So if I did rip her off, I would have gotten fucking the shit killed. Beating out of me, you know, what are the odds?

• 43:05Speaker 02

  Uh, so that last trip to Boston, and I spent all the money I wasn't gonna spend, but this girl was fucking hot. You know, then I had, I came out of rehab. And I think I had like a month or two months clean. And I'm working at Daytona Beach. This fucking wait, well, I don't know, I was, I had bad teeth, fucking jheri curl. And my wife says this, she saw videos of me from her ass, and she goes, "You're such a mess, but you had so much confidence." And girls like confidence, right? Cause I would be on stage, fucking rotten teeth and fucking grease dripping out of my hair. So I'm a fucking mess, I look like a fucking rat.

• 43:49Speaker 02

  And uh, this hot waitress in Daytona, we go back to her place. And I'm making out with her and something tastes funny, I go, "What?" And she pulls out a bag of Coke. And I had like a month clean, two months, I go, "I can't do that, I I gotta get out of here." I mean, I fucked her, but then I left real quick, you know, uh, you know, and it was scary.

• 44:11Joe Rogan?

  So you never bounced back? You never went back to drugs?

• 44:13Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 44:14Joe Rogan?

  That's amazing.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Thirty-nine years ago.

• 44:16Joe Rogan?

  That's incredible, you had one fall off and you're like, "I'm done."

• 44:20Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, here's, for me now, and you know, as the years accumulated, you know, I was, I was working, I was saving money, I was buying. You know, if I went and got high now, this watch alone would kill me. I could pawn this watch.

• 44:36Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 44:37Speaker 02

  It would be enough money for me to die.

• 44:39Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  You know, money I've hidden around the house, you know, it, it, no one's gonna find it. I uh, I like, don't even think, "Hey, we're gonna go to Foster's house and find his money." This shit is fucking hidden well, alright? So go fuck yourselves. So anyhow, I'll die. Just know, look, I- For a year, and I gotta get back on track, I stopped eating. Not keto, but cut back on carbs, sugar. Just, I did real well for a year. I mean, I was fucking ripping up again. And for my age, and it's harder to. My daughter comes upstairs and goes, oh, I made homemade chocolate chip cookies. I go, oh, give me one.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  Well, the seventh cookie I had to throw in the garbage. The seventh, I go, I can't, I gotta stop. So that's how my fucking mind is. There's no, there's no one time. The fuck, I play golf and guys are drinking a beer. I go, what the fuck are you doing? We like the taste. Fuck off, Gatorade tastes good. You drink to get drunk. What are you drinking in a beer? You know? And it's just, and then on stage if I go, I quit, somebody goes, quitter, shut the fuck up. You're here having wine coolers, bitch. Sell your mother's car to get high. Go fuck yourself. You don't know anything about getting high.

• 45:57Joe Rogan?

  You're fighting with people who aren't even here.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  I know. I'm just telling you.

• 46:05Joe Rogan?

  Here in the shower arguing with these guys.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  Oh, do you know how many fucking arguments I've had? I thought you were gonna bring in your whole pro Palestinian crew that I was gonna fight today.

• 46:16Speaker 02

  Which I have stuff printed out, we'll read later.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  We'll read later, but. Yeah, it's so funny, having fights with, you don't ever. Lay in bed or argue with, have arguments with people that.

• 46:30Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  You've never had.

• 46:31Joe Rogan?

  I did when I was young. Yeah, I figured that out when I was younger. This is stupid. And when the impulse comes, which it does, I just, I go, this is stupid. I talk to myself. I just coach myself.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:44Joe Rogan?

  You gotta have like another voice in your head. Yeah, but I. Most people have one voice in their head and that voice is like, we should go get high or we should do this, we should do. You have to have a second voice and the second voice is like, what advice would I give me? And the advice I would give me is like, you're wasting your time arguing in the shower with someone who doesn't even, they don't even know you're arguing with them.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  I know, it's true.

• 47:04Joe Rogan?

  You're not even there. You're like replaying it out in your head, so you could have had a better thing to say to them.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  They say they're living rent-free in your head.

• 47:12Joe Rogan?

  Yes, that's what it is. Yeah, I don't allow anybody in my head.

• 47:16Speaker 02

  No, I had the second, boy, I do, and I'm not religious by any, but I'll say, you know, God get me off here. You know, what should I do? What's my purpose? Or what can I do in life, you know? Look, my main purpose in life, besides be, my main purpose is staying sober, because if I don't, I'm dead easily, and everything I throw away. Then my family, obviously, you know, and my, and my career, you know? All the shit I put about Israel, this and that, that's, that's, my life is comedy. But I think in life, if you're not part of the, like, as a solution, you're part of the problem with what's going on in this world with,

• 48:00Speaker 02

  in this, mainly in this country, the antisemitism in this country.

• 48:05Joe Rogan?

  The antisemitism in this country is weird, because it popped up like it was hiding. You know, after October 7th, it popped up like it was hiding, like, what, where, has this been here the whole time? It was weird. And I think there's a lot of it in, um, on Twitter, in, um, these places, that I think is not human beings, and that inspires human beings to get bold. I think there's a lot of it that's bots. There's a lot of it that's bot. I see these, I've, I've, like, when someone says something outrageous on Twitter, I'll go to the account and see like, what, what they're doing.

• 48:41Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 48:41Joe Rogan?

  And what, and sometimes I go, oh, this isn't a person. Like, you, you can figure it out after like, a couple of pages. Like, this is not an actual person. This is a person that jumps onto every controversial subject, and says something insightful. They do it over and over again. And you see it with abortion, you see it with immigration, you see it with voting, you see it with the rigged elections. Like, there was an FBI analyst, who, uh, took a look at Twitter before the purchase, and he said, "I think it's as much as 80% bots." I think we're getting played as a civilization, back and forth. I think we're getting, I think so many people are vulnerable to like following a narrative.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  Well, and, and, and I, I agree, see, and I've said this, and I believe in free speech. You didn't, I, when we talked about this, you didn't agree with it, but.

• 49:34Joe Rogan?

  I didn't agree with free speech?

• 49:35Speaker 02

  No, no, no. What I said about the internet, that some people in life use our pla- shouldn't have a platform in life because they're, they're nuts. They're nuts. Like if you had somebody in the audience that's nuts, you're gonna, you're gonna take them out, you're gonna get rid of them.

• 49:52Joe Rogan?

  Right, but that's the difference between an audience and the internet is you don't have to engage with the nuts.

• 49:58Speaker 02

  Okay, but there's people that are following these nuts. Okay, you take whatever's going on in the Middle East, whatever, whether, whatever side you're on. Israel, Palestine, whatever.

• 50:14Speaker 02

  Why are college campuses letting this happen on campus where Jews can't go to class, where they're being harassed? Where they feel threatened?

• 50:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, a lot of that stuff is funded.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's funded by Qatar or whatever.

• 50:32Joe Rogan?

  But, or whatever, whoever's, whoever's doing it, there's, there's most certainly there's funding and organization involved. These aren't organic protests that just pop up.

• 50:41Speaker 02

  No, of course.

• 50:42Joe Rogan?

  Everybody wants to think they are because some people join organically, they hop in, but it's not. These are all being organized.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 50:49Joe Rogan?

  Including the anti Elon protests, including like, you know, the, the end to oligarchy rallies that they have with AOC and Bernie Sanders. All this shit is getting, it's all getting funded and astroturfed and they're busing people in. They're manufacturing a movement.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  Of course, and I mean, listen, they didn't all go out and buy the same tents, you know, they, you know, it's, and there's, I don't know how many that are getting funded and then they bring in, you know, it's just like.

• 51:20Joe Rogan?

  The tents are crazy. We're gonna camp out for Palestine.

• 51:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's just like, you know.

• 51:27Speaker 02

  I don't want to get into the eighties and foreclosures on on farms, you know. Farm aid? Well, the when banks were foreclosing on farms, Jews were going, look, the Jews are foreclosing on our farm, the Jewish bankers, and they weren't even the bankers doing it. It was the WASP bankers. Jews barely worked at Chase Manhattan in the early eighties or seventies, so. But they blame the Jews. But they blame, because it's easy to go after, you know, that, so throughout the Midwest or the South, it's easier to build up a hatred or a group to go after a smaller group going, hey, these people are closing on your farms. These are the people

• 52:11Speaker 02

  that are doing it. And these people don't have the knowledge and the hate just grows and grows from generation to generation. Does that make sense? Yes. So, you know, same with, you know, the, look, I got shit I printed out, is, you know, I'll show it later, maybe, I don't know. I mean, I, listen, I'm a comic, but I, I really, you see what I post sometimes. I post some shit. And it's not, I'm not anti, I'm not anti. You're pro-Israel. I'm just pro-Israel, but I'm. You're pro-Jew. I'm pro-Jew in this country. And I'm not religious by any stretch. I don't fucking, it's, I think it's a holiday now. Uh, it's Passover or something. I don't fucking know. I'm not religious. My cousins were, my family wasn't.

• 52:56Speaker 02

  You think about it as a people. I think about it as, yes, as a people. You know, if what was happening in this world to black people or gay people, these colleges would put an end to it. It would stop. All right. If, if people were ripping down posters of, of hostages, of black hostages or gay hostages, when that was happening. It wouldn't happen.

• 53:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that was crazy. You know, that was crazy where people were upset that people wanted people to bring the hostages home. Like, these hostages, some of them were aid workers.

• 53:29Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 53:29Joe Rogan?

  Some of them were people that, like, lived there so they could help people in Gaza. The whole thing is so crazy. But I, I wonder, like, how did they get turned that way? Or were they, like what I said, like, they were in hiding? There was, like, anti- see, as a person who's not a Jew, I would hear about all the anti-Semitism, like, yeah, there's always gonna be some. But maybe everyone's exaggerating. But then, when this, after October 7th, it was just like, oh, Jesus. It's fucking everywhere.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  Are you, are you, what's your background?

• 53:59Joe Rogan?

  Italian?

• 54:00Speaker 02

  Italian.

• 54:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, mostly, one quarter Irish.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 54:03Joe Rogan?

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• 56:17Joe Rogan?

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• 56:20Speaker 02

  If every surrounding country

• 56:23Joe Rogan?

  Right, hated Italians. Oh, I get it.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  You're gonna fight back by any means necessary.

• 56:28Joe Rogan?

  I 100% get it.

• 56:30Speaker 02

  Can I show you some stuff?

• 56:31Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  Now, we don't have to do it. We can talk, huh? I don't know. I gotta do a little of it, a little.

• 56:36Joe Rogan?

  Whatever you want. I don't care. Do whatever you want. I'm joking around. But yeah, no, I understand. And I think that's also one of the things that people like.

• 56:45Speaker 02

  My wife should keep away. Go ahead.

• 56:46Joe Rogan?

  When people get angry about Jews is because they think that Jews always stick together. And they like Jews above all else. And then it's like, yeah, fuck those people. You know, there's like that walled garden approach, you know? What do you got there? You got a manila envelope like you're in fucking court. Look at this.

• 57:03Speaker 02

  Relax. I'm a, I come prepared.

• 57:05Joe Rogan?

  Charts? Did you bring graphs? What's that first page? Is that a photo of Israel? What is, you got a map? You brought maps? He brought shit, he brought maps for me. This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen from you.

• 57:19Speaker 02

  Look at the dot. Look at the size of Israel.

• 57:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's very small.

• 57:23Speaker 02

  Look at who they're surrounded by.

• 57:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're surrounded by a bunch of Muslims. Not a good spot to be if you're a Jew.

• 57:29Speaker 02

  So, would

• 57:30Joe Rogan?

  They should have probably moved to a different spot.

• 57:34Joe Rogan?

  It's like, you know, you know what I mean?

• 57:35Speaker 02

  No, I got other better stuff. I just start off with the weaker stuff.

• 57:38Joe Rogan?

  If you're, you're a black guy, you move into a KKK neighborhood, that's like you're gonna have problems.

• 57:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, so

• 57:46Joe Rogan?

  It is kinda crazy.

• 57:46Speaker 02

  What didn't you think? By any means necessary, they're gonna do what they fucking have to do to survive.

• 57:54Joe Rogan?

  Yes, I totally think they would, and I understand that aspect of it.

• 57:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I gotta turn it off, sorry. My wife, I don't know how she got my number. Start the car.

• 58:06Joe Rogan?

  It is crazy when you look at the map. It's not just that they're surrounded, but they're surrounded by everyone. It's all enormous countries.

• 58:15Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 58:16Joe Rogan?

  All the way up, it's interesting, you go down Saudi Arabia, the end of it, you forget, oh, it's Ethiopia's right there.

• 58:22Speaker 02

  And then, I mean, Turkey hates Israel, fucking Iran, you know, they're being attacked by four or five different nations at once. And everybody's going, well, you know, they're committing genocide. First of all, those numbers are coming out of, uh, coming from Hamas. Where do you think those numbers are coming from?

• 58:44Joe Rogan?

  Okay, but the drone footage isn't coming from Hamas. The drone footage is real. Like if you cover Gaza with a drone, there's nothing left. It's pretty nuts.

• 58:54Speaker 02

  Well, I bet you if they released the hostages October 10th, none of this shit would have happened.

• 59:01Joe Rogan?

  That's true.

• 59:01Speaker 02

  None of this shit would have happened. During the Clinton administration, Arafat was in the White House, probably six or seven times. The head of the CIA during the Clinton administration visited the White House twice. Arafat, six or seven times, and they offered a two-state solution. Clinton, that would have been Clinton's legacy to have peace and a two states. But Arafat kept turning it down because Arafat's a terrorist, and if he does that, what purpose does he serve? What purpose? He's.

• 59:38Joe Rogan?

  Is it that simple?

• 59:39Speaker 02

  Well, to me it is, because I'm not the smartest.

• 59:44Joe Rogan?

  Part of the problem, part of the problem with Israel and Palestine, and I've sat down and thought about this conflict. Not that I'm an expert either, but it's almost insurmountable. And then now, after October 7th with all the bombings and when they leveled Gaza, it's like, how do you fix this? It's like, there's no, you've created, whatever the numbers are,

• 1:00:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:09Joe Rogan?

  Whether it's 70,000 people or 20,000 people that have been killed that are innocents. You've created so many more potential terrorists.

• 1:00:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:18Joe Rogan?

  Because so many of the children of those people and the brothers and sisters and relatives of those people. So it's like, it's like reinforced this desire to, to fight against Israel.

• 1:00:30Speaker 02

  But we...

• 1:00:32Joe Rogan?

  You know, and you could squash that, you could just keep pounding them down till there's nothing left, which is what it seems to, that they're doing.

• 1:00:39Speaker 02

  But, we...

• 1:00:40Joe Rogan?

  And I understand it from a tactical perspective, I guess.

• 1:00:44Speaker 02

  Do we have, does, do we have that animosity and hatred from Japan towards us where we dropped, you know, killed 350,000 people, we, I mean...

• 1:00:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, they did for a while.

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, but...

• 1:00:58Joe Rogan?

  They certainly did for a long while.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, but now...

• 1:01:01Joe Rogan?

  I had friends who'd go to Japan in the 70s and they said, "You could feel the hatred."

• 1:01:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, but now it's, that's, it's 55 years later.

• 1:01:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're not like that at all now.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay, so...

• 1:01:10Joe Rogan?

  But it's a totally, completely different generation. So you think future generations will think about Israel the same way we think about Japan? Or Japan thinks about us?

• 1:01:19Speaker 02

  No, because future generations in the Middle East, this has been going since day one, since the Six Day War, since the Yom Kippur War, since, since day one, they've been being attacked. So there's never,

• 1:01:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's also before Israel was founded, you gotta go back to how they were being persecuted in Europe. It was insane. There's this guy, Darryl Cooper, is a lightning rod for controversy, unfortunately, but he's, he's got an amazing podcast and he's got this series called Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem. And it starts out with the Jews being persecuted in, in Europe and he takes you through what it would have been like for those people. And the gangs of people roaming down the streets, raping women, beating men to death in the streets. And it's so crazy because it's real. It happened and it was these people's neighbors. And, you know, this was why they got so many people to move to Israel in the first place.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:19Joe Rogan?

  Because when they said, "Look, we're setting up a state..." For for just for Jews from all these Eastern European Jews are like, okay, we're in. And they moved, I mean, you know, and then you had a.

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  And they've also been there since Christ. I mean, they've been in Israel.

• 1:02:35Joe Rogan?

  Even before that, right?

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  A couple of weeks.

• 1:02:39Joe Rogan?

  But I think it predates. Doesn't it predate Jesus?

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I'm not his story, and this isn't my whole life.

• 1:02:47Joe Rogan?

  Let's find out, let's find out since we can. What is the earliest, who are the, when did Jews first settle the land that's now known as Israel? Was Judea back then, right? Like, what was it called? What was it initially called?

• 1:03:03Speaker 02

  Miami.

• 1:03:03Joe Rogan?

  But also, like, yeah, this is like, you know, this is one of the reasons why it's this area is so so contentious is because Christians really believe that when Jesus comes back, that's where he's gonna come. He's gonna come back to Jerusalem, like, are you fucking sure?

• 1:03:20Speaker 02

  But here's, here's another thing, too, this, and I'm not, listen, I've worked, I'm not gonna be that guy, oh, I had a Muslim friend.

• 1:03:28Joe Rogan?

  Jews have been in the history of the land of Israel, their presence dating back to the second millennial BCE. Okay, settling in the area around 1,250 BCE. So that's, that predates Jesus by 1,250 years. It's funny, they call it before current era. Like, current era is not 2,000 years ago, just say before Jesus, you motherfuckers.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  That's what I say.

• 1:03:52Joe Rogan?

  Second millennial BCE, the Israelites, considered to be the ancestors of the Jewish people, emerged as an outgrowth of the Southern Canaanites. The Israelites entered Canaan in 1250 BCE, settling the hill country in the south. 10th century BCE, two Israelite kingdoms, Northern Kingdom of Israel and the Southern Kingdom of Judea emerged, of Judah, rather, emerged. The Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Neo Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE. And in 586 BCE, the Kingdom of Judah was conquered by the Neo Babylonian Empire. 538 BCE, the Persian Cyrus the Great ended the Babylonian exile and the Jews returned to their homeland.

• 1:04:35Joe Rogan?

  So they've been, they've been there since 538 BCE, started in 1250 BCE, so they were there before anybody. Yeah, the Romans destroyed the Second Temple of Jerusalem in 70 current era, leading to the Jewish despoira.

• 1:04:51Joe Rogan?

  Wow, crazy fucking history of controversy in that one place. Forty-eight, the state of Israel was established. Many Holocaust survivors welcomed it as a homeland.

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, forty-eight, and since then, they've been at war.

• 1:05:03Joe Rogan?

  And so they started settling, another wave of Jews started coming in nineteen oh four, from nineteen oh four to nineteen fourteen.

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  So.

• 1:05:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:11Speaker 02

  Before, five thirty-eight BCE.

• 1:05:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but the problem is like there, we're Palestinians there, and like, what are they, they don't even have a country. Let's, you, if you've got people that are right next to you that don't even have a country. They don't, they don't have, you know, what is it, what do they do if they're ruled by Hamas? How do they fight back, right? These, they are protesting in the streets now.

• 1:05:32Speaker 02

  They are against Hamas.

• 1:05:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:34Speaker 02

  They are.

• 1:05:34Joe Rogan?

  They get executed.

• 1:05:35Speaker 02

  Did you just see that?

• 1:05:36Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:05:36Speaker 02

  The big protest, I just saw that.

• 1:05:38Joe Rogan?

  Thousands, thousands of courageous people protesting in the street.

• 1:05:42Speaker 02

  It's, uh.

• 1:05:43Joe Rogan?

  They're like, we don't want any more of this, stop.

• 1:05:45Speaker 02

  Well, look what happened, they got, they, they, uh. Got, I mean, because of Israel's help, got Assad out of Syria. Now the rebels took over, but Assad killed almost five hundred thousand of his own people, tortured a hundred thousand. I mean, those are the numbers I read, I don't know if they're exact, but he's gone.

• 1:06:05Joe Rogan?

  A lot of controversy about Assad in Syria. There's a lot of controversy about controversy, you know.

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:06:10Joe Rogan?

  About what actually happened and why we were backing the rebels. We essentially, we essentially backed ISIS, which is crazy. We backed Al Qaeda, which is just nuts.

• 1:06:22Speaker 02

  He, but he was more dangerous in Syria.

• 1:06:28Joe Rogan?

  According to our.

• 1:06:29Speaker 02

  According, well, also according to Israel, because Israel weakened Iran's military after they were attacked by Iran, who was supplying Assad with weapons.

• 1:06:42Joe Rogan?

  You know what's really fucked? Before Iran became a religious state.

• 1:06:48Joe Rogan?

  Women were like wearing miniskirts.

• 1:06:50Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:06:50Joe Rogan?

  They were hot. It was like, there was freedom everywhere. People were like chilling. It seemed almost like in, like, Europe.

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  Probably like a, like a resort vacation. Like, they were beautiful.

• 1:07:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they were gorgeous women. Iran, the Persian women have incredible genes. It's like, you, you, you look at those photos from like, see if you can find some photos of Iran, like, early 1970s. I was, I was seeing some things on it this morning, actually, on the way over here. Or before I left, uh, my house, I was seeing this. It's, it's so hard to imagine that a place that was, that had a democratically elected leader, you know, was, you know, it was kind of almost European. And then, now. Now, it's just a full religious state. And anybody, anybody who protests against the government gets assassinated. Like, they, they assassinated an Olympic gold medalist wrestler. Because he was perceived to be protesting.

• 1:07:46Joe Rogan?

  I don't even know if he actually protested. It was like some things that you post online. Like, if women take off their headscarves, they can get killed.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  But why, I don't get-

• 1:07:53Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy that a, a country can fall like that.

• 1:07:57Speaker 02

  I don't get where gays, or women, or whatever, are backing. They're basically back, backing Hamas.

• 1:08:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:06Speaker 02

  I don't get-

• 1:08:07Joe Rogan?

  They're retarded.

• 1:08:08Speaker 02

  I don't get it.

• 1:08:09Joe Rogan?

  Because they just do the new thing. What's the new thing? Is it climate change? Why am I yelling? Climate change? Okay, climate change! Is this, do Black Lives Matter? Okay, Black Lives Matter! It's all it is. There's a lot of people out there that are just retarded. And those are the people that you see getting bust into these rallies. And there's just a lot of dopes that you could get to agree with. Almost anything. And there's gay people for Hamas, believe it or not. Trans people for Hamas.

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  It's fucking-

• 1:08:36Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:08:37Speaker 02

  Blacks for the Klan.

• 1:08:38Joe Rogan?

  It's hard to tell how many of them are real, because there's a few people that troll online, and they'll pretend, I'm a tr- you know, I'm a trans woman, but I'm also a Muslim. Like, okay. They will throw you off a fucking roof, bitch.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  No, there's none left.

• 1:08:52Joe Rogan?

  No roofs left. There's a couple high points. It's just hard to get to them.

• 1:08:56Speaker 02

  It's, here's, and obviously, as a comic, I believe in the First Amendment. I say shit that you can't cancel. Anyhow.

• 1:09:07Speaker 02

  I believe, and maybe I'm wrong, and maybe you disagree, I want to see your opinion.

• 1:09:11Joe Rogan?

  Look at this.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  Okay, after this.

• 1:09:12Joe Rogan?

  Iran for the 1970s. Look, girls in miniskirts looking hot.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  They look, that looks like.

• 1:09:18Joe Rogan?

  Europe. Look at this. Girl sitting in front of a car. Cute little outfit on.

• 1:09:22Speaker 02

  She'd be fucking killed doing that now.

• 1:09:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Look at the beaches in Iran in the 1970s. Isn't that fucking crazy?

• 1:09:28Speaker 02

  No litter.

• 1:09:29Joe Rogan?

  Look at these, god damn.

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  Look at the tits on that one.

• 1:09:31Joe Rogan?

  Hot. One lady though, that was the future. The future's in the lower right corner.

• 1:09:36Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:09:36Joe Rogan?

  Covered up like Yoda. It's crazy. It's crazy. That's, that's what happened to that place. Like, look at these people all hanging out. Being free. 1979 is when it all went to shit. And they call it the revolution, but...

• 1:09:52Joe Rogan?

  I think it was US-backed, son.

• 1:09:54Speaker 02

  Okay, what's your opinion? This is my opinion.

• 1:09:59Speaker 02

  Free speech, protest all you want at colleges, protest wherever.

• 1:10:06Speaker 02

  But take off the masks.

• 1:10:08Joe Rogan?

  I think you should take off the masks, period.

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:10Joe Rogan?

  I don't believe in a society where people walk around with their faces covered. I think there's, it's too dangerous.

• 1:10:16Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:16Joe Rogan?

  It's a public safety issue. It's too hard to identify criminals. It's too hard to identify someone who commits a crime.

• 1:10:23Speaker 02

  During the, during the Vietnam protests, there was never a mask. Those people were proud to protest against the Vietnam War.

• 1:10:31Joe Rogan?

  But there also wasn't facial recognition software and cameras in the sky. It was like, you know, there's a lot of considerations.

• 1:10:38Speaker 02

  That's true. But now

• 1:10:42Speaker 02

  they're hiding and they're committing, to me, some crimes on campus. I think...

• 1:10:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're certainly doing a lot of things they shouldn't be allowed to do, like disrupting classes and screaming at professors and...

• 1:10:54Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:54Joe Rogan?

  And it's organized.

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, it's organized. And people join in because they just join, they want to be, like I said. And there's, there's a lot of people in this world, there's leaders and there's followers. And there's a lot of followers.

• 1:11:08Joe Rogan?

  More followers than leaders.

• 1:11:09Speaker 02

  Than leaders in the world.

• 1:11:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:11Speaker 02

  So, we'll get off of this because I know it kinda, you know, but I just wanted to...

• 1:11:15Joe Rogan?

  You want your map back?

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  No, I have other things in there. I have others, other good points in there.

• 1:11:21Joe Rogan?

  It is, it is a good point though, but it's like, when you have people that are bitter enemies like this, like, these kind of conflicts take thousands of years to work through. And in, in the case of Israel, it's still, it is thousands of years old.

• 1:11:34Speaker 02

  It's...

• 1:11:37Speaker 02

  Look, how are they gonna

• 1:11:40Speaker 02

  win anything through the UN when there's 22, 23 hour countries in the UN and Israel? So, everything's gonna be voted against.

• 1:11:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  Israel. They're 22, 23 fucking hour.

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  Like I said, just, I, I can't solve or whatever. Is it, is it

• 1:12:04Speaker 02

  unfair? Is it whatever? My concern is what's going on in this country. That's my main concern. My daughter's going to college. I don't want her to go to a college where she feels scared to go to class.

• 1:12:19Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:12:19Speaker 02

  Where she feels threatened just to be who she is.

• 1:12:24Joe Rogan?

  Tell her to go to college in Texas.

• 1:12:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. That's what she, I, I want her to go to, so, you know.

• 1:12:30Joe Rogan?

  They have concealed carry on college campuses here.

• 1:12:33Speaker 02

  You know, it's so.

• 1:12:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, this is a different place.

• 1:12:37Speaker 02

  It's, it's a different time.

• 1:12:38Joe Rogan?

  This is what America, like, is supposed to be in a lot of ways. You know, it's supposed to be a lot more free, less law, less laws. And, but, you know, there's a lot of laws here that are kinda crazy. You know, the, the abortion thing, the six week thing. It's crazy. Most women don't even know they're pregnant that quickly.

• 1:12:55Speaker 02

  I, I think if a woman.

• 1:12:57Joe Rogan?

  If a woman?

• 1:12:58Speaker 02

  If a lady, a woman, okay, okay. I told you, I walked out in 11th grade. If a lady, I think, does all her chores. I think, I think once a week, she should be able to wear slacks. I, abortion to me.

• 1:13:16Speaker 02

  I haven't, it's not really, I think a man, and may, I could be wrong. If you're married or you live with your spouse, the male might have, what, 20, 25% of the decision, maybe 30? But some single guy probably never had a girlfriend, never lived with a girl.

• 1:13:36Speaker 02

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:13:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  Shut the fuck up. You know, you just wanna be part of something.

• 1:13:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, people love controlling people, though. They really do. Which is why, you know, those climate protests drove me fucking crazy where they would protest for climate change by blocking the highway. Those fucking idiots.

• 1:13:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:53Joe Rogan?

  All they wanna do is control people. That's what they wanna do. You're not changing anyone's mind.

• 1:13:58Speaker 02

  No, not at all.

• 1:13:59Joe Rogan?

  Holding a flag in the middle of the highway. You're just pissing people off. But you're controlling people by stopping traffic, and that's what people like to do. They like to control people.

• 1:14:08Speaker 02

  And they don't know if somebody's giving birth or somebody has to get to the hospital or for anything.

• 1:14:15Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:14:15Speaker 02

  It's all self-centered.

• 1:14:17Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  Fucking, "I'm more important than you."

• 1:14:20Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:14:20Speaker 02

  My, you know, throwing paint on somebody with a fur. They should turn around and fucking beat the daylights out of them. Or these fucking climate people walking into the Reich Museum or the Van Gogh and throwing paint on a fucking...

• 1:14:36Joe Rogan?

  Or gluing yourself to the wall.

• 1:14:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, what the...

• 1:14:38Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy.

• 1:14:39Speaker 02

  And then again, how...

• 1:14:40Joe Rogan?

  Did you see what they did at the Porsche dealership? They glued themselves to the floor in the Porsche dealership. They just shut the lights off and left them in there.

• 1:14:47Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 1:14:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, fuck you. They came back the next day. They glued their hands to the floor, like that they're gonna stop everything, and they were like, "Okay, good, we'll just shut the doors."

• 1:14:56Speaker 02

  Porsches are...

• 1:14:57Joe Rogan?

  Shut the doors, leave them in there to shit themselves.

• 1:14:58Speaker 02

  Good.

• 1:14:59Joe Rogan?

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• 1:17:02Speaker 02

  Porsches are nice cars. Why would they attack Porsches?

• 1:17:05Joe Rogan?

  They're only doing it because they know it'll get attention. That's all it is. It's a bunch, usually a bunch of very privileged, rich kids, white kids, that come from a family that has a lot of wealth and to rebel against their parents or probably fucking investment bankers or something. They decide they're gonna fight climate change, man. And they don't even understand what they're fighting. They don't understand the science. They don't. It's complex. It's multi-layered and nuanced. And there's a lot of propaganda that's attached to what they call the green agenda. Because the green agenda, like all things that are big and public, is profitable. They have a bunch of companies that if they can get these laws pushed forward,

• 1:17:46Joe Rogan?

  they can have industries that emerge and their industry can benefit from all these laws. And so they'll, they'll fund protests. They'll get people to do things. But it's all 4D chess. There's all these multiple layers of things happening. And then there's the inconvenient actual climate data that the Washington Post printed that showed that over the last 50 million years, we're in a decline. The earth is in a cooling period. And the Earth's never, like, you probably know this, but for people who don't, there's never been a static temperature on Earth. It's always gone up and down wildly. It's unpredictable. It has multiple, multiple factors. Carbon is probably one of them.

• 1:18:29Joe Rogan?

  But it's not the big one. It's not all of it. There's solar activity that's, you can't control at all. Solar flares happen, and some of them happen. They've happened in the early 1800s. They blew out all the fucking Morse code systems. Like, what was like, there was a big solar flare in the 1800s that... See if you can find that. But there's... They could blow out the power grid, easy. Kill all the satellites, easy. What, what carbon is, is food for plants. It's the dumbest fucking thing to protest against. Pollution is a giant issue. Yeah, do, do we have an impact on the weather? I'm sure we do. We have an impact on fucking everything. But CO2, net zero, all this shit?

• 1:19:14Joe Rogan?

  This is nonsense. Carrington event. Most intense geomagnetic storm recorded history, peaking on 1 to 2 September 1859 during the solar cycle 10. Created strong auroral displays that reported globally and caused sparking and even fires in telegraph stations. The geomagnetic storm was most likely the result of a coronal mass ejection from the sun colliding with Earth's magnetosphere. So, if we have some of those in the future, it could do anything. Let's see. A geomagnetic storm of this magnitude occurring today has the potential to cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts, and damage to the electrical power grid.

• 1:19:58Joe Rogan?

  We've got real problems, real problems. And you're not gonna solve it with electric cars. You're just not. You're not gonna solve it with windmills.

• 1:20:06Speaker 02

  No, eh, look, if you drive up the Jersey Turnpike or anywhere, and the factories and the lights and, and all the smoke, and all that shit. Just everything, alright?

• 1:20:21Speaker 02

  Me turning off my light bulb is not gonna make a fucking difference.

• 1:20:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, particularly when you look at the emissions that come from China.

• 1:20:28Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:20:29Joe Rogan?

  China is an enormous, enormous contributor to, uh, carbon emissions. And not just carbon emissions, but pollutants, particulates. They're not stopping. They have, they, they built 200 new coal plants. You know, they, they're not gonna stop. No matter what we do, they're gonna do what's best for China financially, period. End of discussion. All these conversations they're having about net zero. Go fuck yourself. You're not gonna stop that.

• 1:20:55Speaker 02

  Okay, and, and this is what, they're looking out for their best interests. That's what they're doing. Just like every other fucking country is, is basically doing is survival. And that's my point with Israel. They're looking out for what's gonna keep us from being extinguished off this fucking planet.

• 1:21:17Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:21:18Speaker 02

  And, you know, whatever it takes. That's what the Jews, and I'm getting back on this because you lost me on all that shit. But, uh, what the Jews need is a Malcolm X of Jews.

• 1:21:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy.

• 1:21:30Speaker 02

  Uh, somebody, uh, look, Malcolm X was great. He didn't say hate, he didn't say go after the white man. He said, do what we have to do.

• 1:21:41Joe Rogan?

  Why don't you do that? Why don't you be the Malcolm X for the Jews? Maybe that's your calling.

• 1:21:45Speaker 02

  My vocabulary.

• 1:21:50Speaker 02

  It's, you know what I mean?

• 1:21:51Joe Rogan?

  There's no way to tighten that up a little bit?

• 1:21:53Speaker 02

  I could a little, a little with Bonnie's help. I fired my manager two weeks ago and I had her write it out for me because I knew I would've said something fucked up.

• 1:22:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's smart.

• 1:22:04Speaker 02

  You know, and, and another thing, I go, hey, listen, you know, uh, seven years, uh, it's, it's time to move on and... I hope we can still be friends and he went definitely not like are you sure maybe we could work this out it's like when you fucking leave a girl.

• 1:22:20Joe Rogan?

  She's like great.

• 1:22:21Speaker 02

  Okay wait whoa come on I I added something to fight for me.

• 1:22:26Joe Rogan?

  Nope.

• 1:22:27Speaker 02

  So nope so yeah I would love to speak in colleges or or or maybe that's.

• 1:22:34Joe Rogan?

  Not today. Let it cool down.

• 1:22:36Speaker 02

  Let it cool. Yeah right.

• 1:22:37Joe Rogan?

  Give it him a year or so.

• 1:22:38Speaker 02

  Give it a year.

• 1:22:41Speaker 02

  I probably wouldn't be able to get to the auditorium.

• 1:22:44Joe Rogan?

  Trump said the wildest shit about Gaza we're gonna turn into the Mediterranean of the Middle East.

• 1:22:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:49Joe Rogan?

  What we're gonna take it.

• 1:22:52Speaker 02

  But he keeps saying and I I don't follow.

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  You know if you don't release the hostages just held to pay well what what has hell what has he done. Uh to help release the hostages I mean what now they're being attacked by fucking Yemen through the who you know I mean what.

• 1:23:15Speaker 02

  I don't know release the fucking hostages and then maybe.

• 1:23:18Joe Rogan?

  How many hostages are left now?

• 1:23:21Speaker 02

  What is it seventy or.

• 1:23:24Speaker 02

  I don't know cuz they keep dropping it you know for hostages for a thousand prisoners or whatever you know I mean.

• 1:23:31Joe Rogan?

  Is that what they're doing?

• 1:23:31Speaker 02

  Whatever it's a trade off how many prisoners they gotta give them for a hostage and you know these. This would have never went on in this we would not have put up I mean we did with Carter with.

• 1:23:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah the Iranian hostages.

• 1:23:46Speaker 02

  Yeah two hundred they were there for what two years.

• 1:23:50Joe Rogan?

  Well they kept them there until Reagan was in office.

• 1:23:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:53Joe Rogan?

  They kept him there until after the election.

• 1:23:57Joe Rogan?

  That was part of the deal.

• 1:23:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:59Joe Rogan?

  Part of the deal was you you'll release these folks after Reagan takes over so that Carter can't get credit for it.

• 1:24:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:04Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure.

• 1:24:05Speaker 02

  Oh yeah yeah that was written that was.

• 1:24:07Joe Rogan?

  Imagine you're a fucking you're in there and you're like Jesus Christ I gotta be in here for four more months.

• 1:24:12Speaker 02

  Four.

• 1:24:12Joe Rogan?

  So this guy gets credit. Just fucking crazy.

• 1:24:15Speaker 02

  Well did you hear I didn't see it I only read what.

• 1:24:20Speaker 02

  These reporters and journalists, what she said on sixty minutes, do you think the hostages didn't feed you because they ran out of food?

• 1:24:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that Hamas didn't feed the hostages?

• 1:24:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, Leslie Stahl said that in an interview.

• 1:24:33Joe Rogan?

  Did she really say that?

• 1:24:34Speaker 02

  In an interview, look it up, she said that to one of the hostages. Do you think they didn't, and don't quote me because this is what I read, I don't want to get sued by Leslie, whoever, but I think she said, what I read, do you think the, uh, the captors didn't feed you because they ran out of food?

• 1:24:51Joe Rogan?

  That's a crazy thing to say to someone who's a hostage.

• 1:24:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, she's on fucking sixty minutes, a journal, how do you say something like that?

• 1:24:59Joe Rogan?

  That's a crazy thing to say, but they're bad. The, the problem with these sixty minutes journalists is the same problem with what they did with the Kamala Harris interview where they took a bumbling answer and edited it out and put an answer to she gave to something else in its place to make it look like she gave succinct, clear cut answers. It's, it's, that's not really journalism. They're not, they're not doing journal, that's not a question you say to a hostage. You, when you're talking to a hostage, you want to find out what the experience was like in, in as compassionate a way as you can to talk to this person who's been through hell. You, you don't ask them, do you ever think that maybe they didn't feed you because they didn't have any food themselves?

• 1:25:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, here you go, look at what their face looks like and look at the sunken in faces of the starving to death hostages and well, obviously they didn't, they didn't give them any food, so shut up.

• 1:25:55Speaker 02

  It's, you can't watch the news, you can't because you're gonna go.

• 1:26:00Joe Rogan?

  It's not news anymore.

• 1:26:01Speaker 02

  No, it's clickbait and it's fucking.

• 1:26:04Joe Rogan?

  It's a business and it's a shitty business. It's not good at doing what it does and it's all bought and paid for by pharmaceutical drug ads and it's just not the news. It's not. You get some information that you can learn, but it's not like the unbiased, this is what happened, this is what caused it, this is what's being done now. It's not that. It's like halfway, they're, they're kind of almost activists.

• 1:26:30Speaker 02

  I, I had an argument with somebody close to me because I go on Gutfeld, I try to go on once a month, like I said, and. And she says, oh, oh, you're, you're pro-Trump. I go, I'm not pro anything or anti anything. I go, I go on, where else is a comic gonna sit for an hour? Try to be funny.

• 1:26:55Joe Rogan?

  On TV.

• 1:26:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, on TV, for an hour.

• 1:26:57Joe Rogan?

  There's not much left.

• 1:26:58Speaker 02

  There's not, and it's definitely not gonna be on the left, cuz they're not gonna let me say the things that I get away.

• 1:27:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:04Speaker 02

  On the Gutfeld Show, and it's a great show, I mean, it's, if you say something funny, they laugh. It's, to me, the closest to tough crowd.

• 1:27:11Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:27:12Speaker 02

  To me.

• 1:27:12Joe Rogan?

  I see what you're saying.

• 1:27:13Speaker 02

  And.

• 1:27:13Joe Rogan?

  Not quite, but I know what you're saying.

• 1:27:15Speaker 02

  Not quite, but it's, I mean, it's fun, and, and, and it gets whatever views. And I said to this person, you work with the pharmaceutical companies for thirty years, and you're gonna tell me.

• 1:27:28Joe Rogan?

  Did they really?

• 1:27:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, and you're gonna go on your high horse about me doing a show that's gonna help my career and build numbers, and, well, it's not the same. No, it's worse.

• 1:27:40Joe Rogan?

  It's way worse.

• 1:27:41Speaker 02

  It's worse.

• 1:27:41Joe Rogan?

  It's way worse. Pharmaceutical drug companies are responsible for who knows how many deaths and injuries.

• 1:27:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they do good, too. Absolutely. Some pharmaceutical drugs are great, but you can't be on your high horse, you work for them. That's crazy. In any other business, they'd be in jail.

• 1:27:58Speaker 02

  They would.

• 1:27:59Joe Rogan?

  Fucking jail.

• 1:28:00Speaker 02

  Jail.

• 1:28:01Joe Rogan?

  If you lied about what your product does and it kills a bunch of people, you're in jail.

• 1:28:06Speaker 02

  Can we talk about one of the reasons I'm here? I don't know if you remember this, I hope you do. Uh, I had this torn rotator cuff.

• 1:28:15Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:28:16Speaker 02

  And you said, come down.

• 1:28:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we're gonna get you some stem cells.

• 1:28:19Speaker 02

  Now, what's the B, the BPC?

• 1:28:22Joe Rogan?

  BPC-157?

• 1:28:23Speaker 02

  Is that better? Which is better for, the stem cells or the BPC?

• 1:28:28Joe Rogan?

  There's no one better, they're all very good. BPC-157 is, it's called Body Protection Compound 157.

• 1:28:34Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 1:28:35Joe Rogan?

  It's a peptide that helps heal soft tissue damage. So do stem cells, all, all the different things are good.

• 1:28:40Speaker 02

  Because I'm not getting my shoulders operated on. It's like a six month.

• 1:28:46Joe Rogan?

  It's rough.

• 1:28:47Speaker 02

  And it doesn't always work.

• 1:28:49Joe Rogan?

  So what exactly is wrong with your shoulder?

• 1:28:50Speaker 02

  Well, this is a torn rotator cuff right here. I have, I even brought the disc, the X-ray.

• 1:28:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh, great. Did you, did you do any exercises for it? You do any rehabs for it?

• 1:29:00Speaker 02

  Not yet, cause I was waiting to do this to see where this took me and then how I, I would go from there.

• 1:29:07Joe Rogan?

  But exercises are always good, like bands, like band work, where you do these kind of things where you, like you keep your, you keep like a towel pressed to your body, so you're holding it in place and do these like rotations with bands, like. All those things are good just to keep everything strong anyway. Do you do any of that stuff?

• 1:29:24Speaker 02

  Not those yet. I have, I tried.

• 1:29:26Joe Rogan?

  Do you ever hang from a chin up bar? You ever do this?

• 1:29:29Speaker 02

  No, for a torn rotator.

• 1:29:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just to strengthen and, and to, to release a pressure in your shoulders.

• 1:29:35Speaker 02

  Oh, really? No, I could.

• 1:29:37Joe Rogan?

  It's good, it's good for shoulder health in general to hang from a chin up bar. If you can't hang, what you do is like, get on a, a box or something that brings you to the height of the bar and just hang a little, just get some weight on it, until you can hang fully.

• 1:29:52Speaker 02

  I mean, look, I can, I can still play golf. I could swing like this.

• 1:29:56Joe Rogan?

  That's good, so that's not totally fucked. Okay.

• 1:29:59Speaker 02

  So when I went to the doctor.

• 1:30:00Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of things you can do, rehabilitation, things you can do that'll help you.

• 1:30:03Speaker 02

  Here's, here's the only thing, and I could be wrong, you'll, you'll know. When they said, you know,

• 1:30:11Speaker 02

  rehab to build up the muscle, but I'm sixty seven, how much more muscle am I building up?

• 1:30:17Joe Rogan?

  If you're a hundred and sixty seven, you can build muscle. That's, that's a silly way to look at it.

• 1:30:20Speaker 02

  Oh, really? I, okay.

• 1:30:22Joe Rogan?

  One hundred percent, if you're alive, and that means your body's recovering.

• 1:30:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:26Joe Rogan?

  So that means your body's generating tissue. That means you could build muscle. Okay? If you can go play golf, you could build muscle.

• 1:30:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:30:32Joe Rogan?

  One hundred percent. If you're eighty fucking years old and a woman, you could build muscle.

• 1:30:36Speaker 02

  I mean, I, I work out still. I just, certain exercises I can't do.

• 1:30:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just, you need to do exercises that rehabilitate your shoulder.

• 1:30:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:45Joe Rogan?

  You, you can't just expect it to get better on its own. You're gonna have to put it through some work to strengthen the muscles around it.

• 1:30:50Speaker 02

  Well, I'm gonna, after, like I said, after I do this.

• 1:30:53Joe Rogan?

  When are you leaving? When are you flying out?

• 1:30:54Speaker 02

  Wednesday.

• 1:30:55Joe Rogan?

  Okay, great. So we'll get you in tomorrow morning. No worries.

• 1:30:58Speaker 02

  Cool.

• 1:30:59Joe Rogan?

  Gets you into waste well, and we'll set it up.

• 1:31:01Speaker 02

  Did I bring the show to it dead halt with my map?

• 1:31:03Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:31:04Speaker 02

  I thought it was a good conversation.

• 1:31:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's good. It's a good map.

• 1:31:07Speaker 02

  You know, I got more stuff. I didn't want to. Listen, I printed out a bunch of stuff. I don't want to go back and have my fucking dumb zoo friends going, hey, you didn't bring anything up.

• 1:31:17Joe Rogan?

  Was that what they do?

• 1:31:18Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:31:19Joe Rogan?

  All right, well, stop talking to them.

• 1:31:23Speaker 02

  Then, then my wife, don't say anything stupid.

• 1:31:26Joe Rogan?

  Is that what she said?

• 1:31:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. She goes, she goes.

• 1:31:30Joe Rogan?

  Sorry, Bonnie.

• 1:31:32Speaker 02

  You know, be funny. That's what you are.

• 1:31:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you're doing that.

• 1:31:35Speaker 02

  I was, I was pretty funny. I gotta say, I, listen, I'm, I'm a good interviewer.

• 1:31:39Joe Rogan?

  You're fine. You're doing fine.

• 1:31:40Speaker 02

  You know what, you know what are, are, are the best, not your best, what a great show would be?

• 1:31:47Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:31:48Speaker 02

  Me, Colin, and Norton in here.

• 1:31:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that'd be phenomenal. That'd be phenomenal. Just like, tough crowd.

• 1:31:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:55Joe Rogan?

  You probably couldn't do it today unless you did it on the internet, but you could still do it on the internet. Like, Colin should really bring it back.

• 1:32:01Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:32:01Joe Rogan?

  There's plenty of guys that could still do it. Like Norton would be fucking phenomenal at it.

• 1:32:05Speaker 02

  We just did Norton's podcast, me, Colin, and Norton, whatever podcast, he's got 12 of them, him. And it was one of the most funniest things when it comes out you'll ever hear. Us three together, it's like a fuck.

• 1:32:18Joe Rogan?

  You get back in the old groove again, you know?

• 1:32:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, because we're just there to have fun.

• 1:32:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:24Speaker 02

  We're there to have fun.

• 1:32:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, tough crowd and Opie and Anthony were huge for comedy. Huge.

• 1:32:31Speaker 02

  They.

• 1:32:31Joe Rogan?

  Cause Opie and Anthony, one of the things that they did that was brilliant is they just let us just go wild, just be ourselves. They didn't really try to control it at all. You know, Anthony would jump in with some funny shit, but the, the whole show was like, bring on a bunch of comics, have them talk a bunch of shit, give them, give them the reins.

• 1:32:48Speaker 02

  We, I mean, I could, I was in there one day, Anthony was eating a piece of cake, I walked by him and smacked it out of his hand.

• 1:33:00Speaker 02

  He laughed as hard as anybody on the planet because.

• 1:33:07Speaker 02

  The times we had in there. I was on there with, uh...

• 1:33:12Joe Rogan?

  Were you with me when they brought in Marion Perry? Were you?

• 1:33:16Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:33:16Joe Rogan?

  You weren't there? You weren't there?

• 1:33:19Speaker 02

  Marion Berry?

• 1:33:20Joe Rogan?

  Marion Berry, the fucking, the-

• 1:33:21Speaker 02

  The mayor from-

• 1:33:22Joe Rogan?

  The mayor of Washington DC that got arrested for smoking crack.

• 1:33:25Speaker 02

  No, you were in there with him?

• 1:33:26Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:33:27Speaker 02

  Oh, that had to be a blast.

• 1:33:28Joe Rogan?

  We grabbed him. We grabbed. I thought you were in there. Norton was in there for sure. He was next door doing something and doing another interview. And he was in the hallway. And I think Opie said Marion Berry's in the hallway right now. I'm like, let's go get him. And we got him. We brought him in. And we started, I started asking him about crack. He's like, well, nobody knows what was in that pipe. I'm like, well, you know.

• 1:33:50Speaker 02

  You know.

• 1:33:51Joe Rogan?

  You fucking know. What were you smoking that wasn't crack? That's almost crazier.

• 1:33:55Speaker 02

  You know, oh, really? You smoked tobacco out of a glass pipe?

• 1:33:59Joe Rogan?

  One of my favorites is when he was running for reelection, which he eventually won after he got out of jail. Uh, they asked these people, do you have a problem with the fact that the mayor used to smoke crack? They interviewed this guy on the street. He goes, oh, everybody smokes a little crack every now and then. I was like, oh, this conversation's over. This conversation's over.

• 1:34:16Speaker 02

  That's, it's... I remember the times and I was in there one time.

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• 1:34:53Joe Rogan?

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• 1:35:31Speaker 02

  Pete Rose, Bobby Kelly, Ricky Gervais, right? And fucking Pete Rose called me, he goes, "You look like some rat-faced soccer player," whatever he said, it was very funny. Whatever Pete Rose said was very fucking funny. So I walk over to Bobby. Then I walk past Bobby, and I walk past Pete Rose, and I sit down. And Pete Rose says, "Why are you out of breath?" I go, "'Cause I had to walk around you two, you fat fucks," right? But, and Gervais, but you could say anything you wanted on that show.

• 1:36:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:14Speaker 02

  And it didn't, it-

• 1:36:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because I never went on it until it went to XM. You know, I was never on it when they were on terrestrial radio. When they got, they got kicked off terrestrial radio, and then they got on XM. And when they were on XM, it was wild. They were, it was like the first time. It was like, there was Howard, when Howard got on XM, or Sirius, I guess, first? Before they merged? And then the ONA show was on XM, like, this is fucking cra- this is crazy. This was like, what ra- this is basically green room talk. Green room talk for the whole world.

• 1:36:47Speaker 02

  Well, okay, so I brought Patrice into ONA.

• 1:36:51Joe Rogan?

  Did you really?

• 1:36:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I brought him in.

• 1:36:52Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:36:53Speaker 02

  He fucking smashed me the day I walked him in. Because we went through the back, we went through this way, now he goes, "What do you think this is good, fellas? You walked me through the back, you couldn't take me through the front door?" So he became a fixture on. So one day, we're in fucking ONA, and I'm driving this little Porsche Boxer. He's driving this big Escalade. Because, you know, he's a fucking, you know, buffet molester, and he's in this- So he's saying, he's trashing one of my Rolexes, going, "You're a fucking selfish douchebag driving a Porsche." To me, going, "Yeah, so you can't have peo-" You know, and I'm not thinking, "Well, maybe if you didn't eat fucking pound cake or whatever, you wouldn't eat a big es-"

• 1:37:38Speaker 02

  But he's beating me down bad. I mean, fucking killing me, I'm speechless, right? Speechless, he's fucking just pounding me. And I, I walk out of there, I'm fuck- So the next day, or two days later, I go online. And he's trashin' my car. I looked at the price of my car, new, and the price of his car. And I send it to him. I go, "Look, my shitty car costs more than your car, new." And he calls me, he goes, "You're still thinking about this?"

• 1:38:12Speaker 02

  He goes, "Really?" You're thinking about it right now. Yeah. Still, to this day, you're arguing with him. No, I'm not. I could've, I should've. No.

• 1:38:24Speaker 02

  We would, I would drive him home. One night, I was driving him back to Jersey City. And I go to the bathroom, and we're walking up to his house. And he says, "Oh, man, I don't have a manager, an agent. Nothing's going on." I go, "I can't get work. I don't have an agent either, nothing." And we just both started cracking up and walking. It was the funniest thing. We, fuck it, I can't, we were, we were reading for the head of a sitcom for ABC, me and Patrice. We were gonna be the leads of this sitcom. So, we go into the head of casting at Marcy Phillips.

• 1:39:08Speaker 02

  And he doesn't wanna be there, and I can't act. So, basically, I'm not a good, at the time. So, he won't take his face out of the fucking copy. And I'm trying to read with him the scene, and he won't look at me. And Marcy Phillips is yelling at me, going, "What are you doing?" I go, "This fucking guy won't connect with me. How can I act with somebody that won't look at me?" And she goes, "Can you two please leave?" We laughed all the way down the hallway. We laughed. We just got kicked out of an audition as the leads of sitcom. And we just cracked up all the way. Because it just, to us, was the funniest.

• 1:39:52Speaker 02

  Being funny in the moment.

• 1:39:54Joe Rogan?

  The idea of you getting a sitcom was so unlikely.

• 1:39:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:39:57Joe Rogan?

  It was always all so unlikely that when it failed, like if you went on audition and it fucked up, you're like, eh.

• 1:40:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:02Joe Rogan?

  It wasn't gonna happen anyway. You never thought this is going to be it.

• 1:40:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, never once.

• 1:40:06Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:40:07Speaker 02

  Never.

• 1:40:07Joe Rogan?

  Never.

• 1:40:08Speaker 02

  I walked out of, I walked out of an audition once, I just got back from Aspen. I had a lot of heat in Aspen, but I, this is when my anxiety, I have, I've had anxiety my whole life. Twenty-one, I was hospitalized for anxiety when I was, and they didn't know what it was. They thought you were just nuts and gave you Thorazine and Haldol and you shuffled around like a crazy man. This is, you know.

• 1:40:32Joe Rogan?

  So, explain to me what it feels like. What, what is this anxiety, like, that you?

• 1:40:36Speaker 02

  Well, now, when I had it, when I had it bad, well, I felt so disconnected that even when I talked, it felt, felt like an echo almost, like I was outside of myself.

• 1:40:49Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:40:49Speaker 02

  Like if I look in the mirror, I'm going, whom I looking at? It was just so, so disconnected.

• 1:40:55Joe Rogan?

  And you were twenty-one?

• 1:40:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, twenty-one.

• 1:40:57Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:40:58Speaker 02

  Smoking pot and stuff.

• 1:40:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, that's it.

• 1:41:00Speaker 02

  Well, some of it was probably, where am I going in life?

• 1:41:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:04Speaker 02

  What am I doing?

• 1:41:05Joe Rogan?

  And you're getting high.

• 1:41:06Speaker 02

  And I'm getting high.

• 1:41:07Joe Rogan?

  Which is like, ooh.

• 1:41:08Speaker 02

  You know.

• 1:41:08Joe Rogan?

  If you're freaking out and you get high, woo.

• 1:41:10Speaker 02

  You know, so I-

• 1:41:11Joe Rogan?

  Do you have to pee right now?

• 1:41:12Speaker 02

  No, no, why do you?

• 1:41:13Joe Rogan?

  Cause you said you have to go to the bathroom. You were talking about your story then. Okay.

• 1:41:17Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:41:17Joe Rogan?

  Cause I was like preparing to like cut it off and let you go to the bathroom.

• 1:41:20Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, this is the best day of my life.

• 1:41:22Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:41:23Speaker 02

  I, uh, except for the fucking map.

• 1:41:25Joe Rogan?

  The map was great. The map turned out great.

• 1:41:27Speaker 02

  It turned out a good, little good conversation, I got, you know.

• 1:41:30Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 1:41:31Speaker 02

  I had to talk, I fucking listened. Oh, thank God, it's Monday. Uh, Thursday, the Thursday ones are so much better. I'm, Monday. So, uh, my anxiety, wait, what was, what did it feel like or what?

• 1:41:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what was, like, when you said it overwhelmed you to the point you had to go to hospital? Was your heart beating?

• 1:41:52Speaker 02

  I was just, I didn't know what was going on. It, it turned into panic or whatever.

• 1:41:57Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:41:57Speaker 02

  Like, I was so fucked up. My friends, you know, I was going- I was selling meat and seafood out of a car, out of a truck, some businesses back then. I went in this therapist, I go, "Help me, I'll give you some free steaks and seafood." I was just out of my fucking mind. And I get anxiety talking about it. It really gives you a little anxiety. So my friends go, "Let's take him to Florida, he needs a vacation." We drove to Florida. I was there for a day. I said, "I gotta get the fuck out of here. Take me home." And we drove there and drove back. Then I checked into the hospital.

• 1:42:37Speaker 02

  The fifth floor, basically, for fucking

• 1:42:39Joe Rogan?

  Cuckoos.

• 1:42:40Speaker 02

  Cuckoos. Cause they really didn't know what anxiety was back then.

• 1:42:45Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy? Cause that's not that long ago in human history.

• 1:42:48Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, it was forty something years ago.

• 1:42:51Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it nuts, just like in the last forty years, how much they've learned?

• 1:42:55Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, but also too, it's easier to say, "He's, that person's nuts, give him Thorazine, Thorazine, hal- whatever." Anti-psychotic drugs or, and, and I swear to God, you know, my day was, and then I would shuffle. I would shuffle around the floor with this girl. We just, I mean, this one girl. We shuffled. My friends came up to see me and I'm like, "I can't see you today, we're going for a walk." You know, I was like one fluid of cuckoo. I was fucking out of my mind. So.

• 1:43:32Joe Rogan?

  That could have been you for the rest of your life.

• 1:43:33Speaker 02

  Oh, Jesus. So, I know. Well, cause I did do acid in my day. And people sometimes do that shit and never come back. Never come back. And I saw that on Dragnet. So.

• 1:43:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's in real life.

• 1:43:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is real life.

• 1:43:49Joe Rogan?

  Stern's talked about that. He did a big dose of acid once and he was fucked up for a long time.

• 1:43:53Speaker 02

  It'll fuck you up.

• 1:43:54Joe Rogan?

  There's a guy from Pink Floyd that disappeared.

• 1:43:56Speaker 02

  Oh, I hope it's fucking Roger Waters.

• 1:43:58Joe Rogan?

  No, how dare you.

• 1:44:00Speaker 02

  How dare I?

• 1:44:01Joe Rogan?

  How dare you. Uh, the guy, what's his name again? Shine on you crazy, crazy diamond.

• 1:44:08Speaker 02

  Oh, you mean he did acid?

• 1:44:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's not just one person. There's been a lot of people that had an acid trip and just never came back.

• 1:44:17Speaker 02

  My brother did it when we were doing, he was real young and he was having a bad trip and I had to babysit him the whole day.

• 1:44:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's fucking scary. Yeah, that's it. David Gilmour.

• 1:44:30Speaker 02

  So.

• 1:44:31Joe Rogan?

  Written by David Gilmour, but it's not, it's about, who was it about? Sid Barrett, that's right. Sid Barrett did acid, went crazy. See, right there. Departed from the ban in 1968 after dealing with the mental health problems and substance abuse. The story is he never came back.

• 1:44:47Speaker 02

  It's crazy. How, how, that's the most, that drug is so uncontrollable.

• 1:44:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, also, you, like, what's the dose? An effective dose is a droplet on your tongue, which is crazy.

• 1:44:59Speaker 02

  Well, we were doing blotter or window pain, four-way window pain.

• 1:45:04Joe Rogan?

  Who's making that? They're not making in the same labs or they're making Tylenol, you know? They're making it in some fucking grateful deadhead's basement.

• 1:45:11Speaker 02

  Also, oh, too much goes into that drop.

• 1:45:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:14Speaker 02

  So, uh, I, I got out of the hospital and for

• 1:45:20Speaker 02

  years, oh, I don't know however long it took, it passed. Life started getting better, whatever.

• 1:45:27Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:45:28Speaker 02

  Then, and I would get anxiety, it would come and go, but back then, I didn't know what it was. It turned into panic and so then when I was 40, I would watch my kids, after I got divorced, I would have my kids every day. I would work nights and I watched my, uh, I guess, four and six-year-old. My wife would either drop them off, or I would pick them up, then drop them off. I would have them in a day. My day was my kids, whatever. Go to the park, do this, do that, just watch my kid. So, then.

• 1:46:09Speaker 02

  They went off to school, full time, you know, nursery, uh, uh, first grade. So now I'm at forty years old, living in some fucking third floor apartment, divorced from my first wife, bouncing off of fucking walls again. I mean, fucking forty years old. No, just, I'm, I'm going, I gotta quit comedy, I gotta go into the psych ward, I'm fucked up. Uh, this is fucked up. So I found this therapist who was also, and I was already sober. I found this therapist that was in recovery and he basically brought me back.

• 1:46:52Speaker 02

  You know, some medication through his partner who was a psychiatrist. He was a therapist, great, I could talk, I could say anything to him, whatever, you know. And then it just got better and then I realized and worked knowing whatever anxiety I feel, it'll pass. Nothing lasts forever. It'll pass, like I had a little anxiety for the last week thinking about this, I go, what, you know. A little bit because, and we're friends and I've done podcasts and what Bonnie goes, shut up and be funny, be whatever. You know, a million things went through my fucking head.

• 1:47:37Speaker 02

  Cause I mean shit, you've had fucking Trump on, Elon, you know what I mean? And, and that's my low self-esteem, cause of course I should be doing everything in my mind. Do you see what I'm saying? Does that make sense? But even when I did Tough Crowd, I was on thirty times. Every episode I had anxiety till it started. Every special or everything I've ever done, anxiety for the first second, I walk out, boom, gone. All right, it's just.

• 1:48:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's cause you care. I mean, you're, what you're calling anxiety is just nerves.

• 1:48:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:13Joe Rogan?

  It's whenever, whenever there's, if you're doing something that's difficult, or something that's important to you, you're gonna have nerves. It's normal, it's healthy. That's, that shows you're challenging yourself, which is one of the most important things you can do in life to, to stay vibrant. Yeah, you have to challenge yourself.

• 1:48:32Speaker 02

  When I did the Trump, when we roasted Trump, uh. This was a Friar's Roast, right? It wasn't, it's when they broke away from Comedy Central, right? They broke away. So, it's at Hilton in New York, 2,000 people. Anybody that meant anything in New York, from club owners, agents, managers, celebrities, they were all there. So the first act goes up, this guy Stewie Stone, old time Catskill comic. He kills like no one I've ever seen kill on a roast. Fuck you, Trump, fuck your casinos, fuck you, fucked it. Just fucking slaughtered, right?

• 1:49:17Speaker 02

  And I'm sitting on the dais, I'm sitting next to Isaac Hayes, Opie and Anthony are there, my father, his wife, Bonnie before I married her. And, and he, I go, "I'm gonna end my career." I go, "I'm gonna end my career." Okay, then Susie Essman goes up. Slaughters, slaughters. I guess Amaroce wrote her some funny jokes and she, and she's great at roasts. And I was ready to sneak off the fucking, just leave. I go, "It might be better if I leave," then go up. Well, then Belsa went up. So... Took a little wind out of the room. Took a little, you know.

• 1:50:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, Regis Philbin was the host. It was three weeks after Ronnie Dangerfield died, three weeks. They introduced me. I go, "Big hand for Regis." Originally, they asked Rodney to host, but he said he'd rather be dead. Right?

• 1:50:31Speaker 02

  Zero. Almost zero. Really? Right, but I got him back. I go, "Don't fuck with me, I'll bring Belzer back." Ahhh. I had, and then Al Sharpton was sitting on the dais. I can't believe I said this, but back then it was okay. He wasn't roasting, but he was on the dais. And that's when he was running for president. And I said, "The only way you'll get on the White House property is with a lantern in your hand." I said, "Damn, so fuck him, I didn't care." And then I got him back. Three of the jokes that I said were the ones that were printed in the newspapers. You know, the one I did, I go, "Trump, the reason Trump puts his names on his buildings

• 1:51:15Speaker 02

  is so the banks know which ones to take back." And that was 20 years ago. But, it was the most terrifying moment. One that, next to doing Def Jam as the first white guy, was one of the most terrifying moments in my, I mean, I'm going, I'm gonna end my career. But Def Jam, you know, Def Jam was on for five years. The number one show on HBO. I go, "Okay, we're gonna use a white guy, it's me." Right, so now I got white comics, "You better be funny." I have black- White comics are saying that to you? Yeah. Like, "You gotta represent us?" Yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was- Which ones? I- I wanna know who they are. This was 27, yeah, 20 years ago. The white comics that were doing black rooms. Oh, I see.

• 1:52:00Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? Then there was black comics mad that I'm doing it and they're not. You know what I mean? So they're taping in New York, every, five nights. This is funny, five nights.

• 1:52:13Speaker 02

  Was that when they were filming in Harlem? It was, it could have, I don't know, it was in New York, five nights at some theater. Okay. And it was the year, I did it, the fifth year, when they had a different guest host every night. Like Martin Lawrence wasn't do, one night, one show Chris Rock, Chappelle, Jamie Foxx, and, uh, Steve, uh, what's his name? Harvey? Harvey was my host, you know? So-

• 1:52:40Speaker 02

  I'm going every night. I mean, I wait one night. And it was, this is so funny, like, Guy, Guy Torrey would come out and do the warm up. And he would say, "Listen, this is not the Apollo. There's no fucking booing here. This is HBO. We don't boo, right? This is, this is a whole nother level. We don't want to hear any booing." So this comic comes out. He walks out, and with a black audience, if you're wearing the wrong sneakers, you're in trouble. Believe me, I used to do a lot of, you know, he comes out in like Reeboks. He's wearing an all gold suit. And his first joke in New York is, "I just want to say I'm not from New York.

• 1:53:24Speaker 02

  I'm from Canada, right?" Oh, no. He's bombing so bad. And when a black audience can boo you, all you heard in the room was, "Mm, mm, mm, mm."

• 1:53:40Speaker 02

  Child, mm. It was brutal. So, I'm like, now, they're taped five nights, two shows a night. I'm on the last night, second show, and I go second to last. Now, all the comics that were still in town, that were the celebrity hosts, all the, we're at the taping. I'm going, this is one of the scariest moments of my life. I mean, you know, no white guy. Steve Harvey brings me out. He goes, "Whoa, our next act is something we haven't seen, or special, whatever." And Russell made me wear his clothing.

• 1:54:24Speaker 02

  I got Fat Farm on, and these baggy pants, you know? And I look back on it, because it was 25 years.

• 1:54:35Speaker 02

  It would be different. I was, I pandered a lot to some, you know what I mean?

• 1:54:40Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:54:40Speaker 02

  I did grow up in that neighborhood.

• 1:54:42Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:54:42Speaker 02

  But I'm out like this, you know, you know.

• 1:54:44Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:54:45Speaker 02

  And it, it worked out luckily, but I look back and go, I would never do that now. From twenty-five years ago, the pandering and, and you know, you know, just, just, you know, talking like I'm fucking from the hood and shit, you know? And I had a good set, it worked out, uh, but it was the second scariest moment in my career.

• 1:55:11Joe Rogan?

  But listen to what you just said. Both scariest moments of your career worked out great.

• 1:55:16Speaker 02

  Yes, they always, yeah.

• 1:55:17Joe Rogan?

  So, wouldn't that eventually build some confidence?

• 1:55:21Speaker 02

  Oh, I have confidence, yeah.

• 1:55:22Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't sound like it.

• 1:55:24Speaker 02

  Oh, no, I'm just talking of scary moments. And, listen, you, you, you always gotta question yourself.

• 1:55:30Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:55:31Speaker 02

  In this business, because you wanna get better, you wanna, eh, you, you just, I don't know, I question myself, I go, I have, not again, not an ego, I have a reputation to live up to.

• 1:55:49Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:55:50Speaker 02

  Of the stuff I've done in this business.

• 1:55:52Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:55:53Speaker 02

  So I, I come out and people are going, look, Bobby, Bobby and Keith, we were at the cellar one night, I go, I got a spot at the underground. They go, we're gonna come over and watch you bomb.

• 1:56:09Joe Rogan?

  Eh, that sounds like Keith.

• 1:56:11Speaker 02

  Keith and Bobby, right? So, so Nikki's, Nikki Glaser's on, killing, killing, not the cleanest, but funny. I don't give a fuck what somebody, she's funny and she was killing. So I went on and my first two jokes.

• 1:56:33Speaker 02

  I had, they killed. And I go, see Bobby, see Keith, I can follow anybody, right?

• 1:56:40Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:56:40Speaker 02

  Well, then, I didn't know this. They went into the back corners of the room. And after every joke, they would go, oh. Oh. And they had the whole audience turn on me going, what's going on? I would say a joke that might have been a little edgier, and they would go, oh, real loud. And so the whole audience is going, what's this guy doing up there? They're groaning. One table goes, what's going on here? And I'm fucking bombing now, because these two fucking jamokes are in the back of the room going, oh, my god.

• 1:57:28Speaker 02

  It's so fucking funny, Bobby and Keith.

• 1:57:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, that was the culture. The culture of comedy was like, constant busting balls. Constant busting balls.

• 1:57:39Speaker 02

  Somebody would go on stage, and we would all go downstairs and sit in like the front row and watch.

• 1:57:46Joe Rogan?

  There's nothing worse you could do for a comic, than your friends sitting in the front row and stare at you. You're like, what are you doing, man?

• 1:57:53Speaker 02

  When Kevin Hart was leaving New York to go to fucking LA, he threw himself a little go-away fucking show at Boston Comedy Club. You remember Boston Comedy Club?

• 1:58:04Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 1:58:05Speaker 02

  So, he's on stage pontificating, doing whatever. And I don't know why, but me, Keith, and Patrice were in the back of the room. And there was like ten phone books back there. And he's up, and we started throwing phone books at him.

• 1:58:21Joe Rogan?

  Phone books?

• 1:58:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, they were just in the club from, I guess they were delivered there, all these phone, and we're throwing phone books at Kevin Hart. And he says, on the interview, he goes, I knew I was accepted when they were throwing phone books at me. I knew I was part of the crew, you know? But we were just heaving phone books at him, like fucking three assholes in the back of the woods, room, I mean. And we would just, it was just fun. It was probably the most fun I've had in comedy.

• 1:58:58Speaker 02

  When we would just stand out, me, Patrice, Keith and Norton. Till three and four in the morning in front of Boston, just trashing each other.

• 1:59:09Joe Rogan?

  Just talking shit, yeah.

• 1:59:10Speaker 02

  Just, you can't replicate that. It can't happen again. It was just so funny. Keith is, uh, he's fun if you see him around, you know, or Norton or Bobby, but it was so much fun.

• 1:59:26Joe Rogan?

  I heard Keith is killing it now, even with his strokes.

• 1:59:31Speaker 02

  His special, we were at the tap and the fact that he didn't win an Emmy. It, it, it's, it was so fucking good, his special. He painted a picture when he was talking. You could see everything he was saying. Him in the hospital, him with a stroke, and it was so good. We walked, I walked out of there going, this is the best thing I've ever seen. It was so good.

• 1:59:56Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:59:56Speaker 02

  He was so good, you know, uh, I don't know why he didn't, I mean, it's.

• 2:00:03Joe Rogan?

  Who gives a fuck about the Emmys?

• 2:00:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, who, you're right. Everybody knows how good it was.

• 2:00:08Joe Rogan?

  All those fucking awards, award shows for art to me are some of the most ridiculous things.

• 2:00:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. Really? How many fucking albums, oh, I don't even want to say her name, but they, they don't know. They don't know funny.

• 2:00:20Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't matter.

• 2:00:20Speaker 02

  You're right, it doesn't.

• 2:00:21Joe Rogan?

  It's just a industry way that they can celebrate each other and then they put on a show and the show generates money. And they make a bunch of money from the show and then it becomes a thing they hold over your head. Maybe you can win a Grammy. Maybe you can win an Emmy, maybe you can win a this, you gotta be a part of the club. Like, look what happened to Chris. He wanted to be a part of that group, doing the Oscars, and they get smacked by Will Smith. They don't arrest him and then 10 minutes later, or whatever it was, Will Smith's on stage, is receiving the Academy Award and they give him a standing ovation. So, it's fucking insanity. That just, that is Hollywood. That, that shows you what these people are. To want their love and their respect is pointless.

• 2:01:01Speaker 02

  It's so true.

• 2:01:02Joe Rogan?

  They don't even know what they like. They like whatever everybody, everybody tells them to like. They don't understand what their support, they don't. They, it's just a bunch of people wanting to be a part of the group that's the in-group. Like, what do we have to do? What do I have to say? What do I have to agree with? That's all it is.

• 2:01:17Speaker 02

  Years ago.

• 2:01:19Speaker 02

  And it's true, if that was Chappelle, he wouldn't have smacked Chappelle. Cause Chappelle's a little cut, a little bigger.

• 2:01:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, I don't know, the whole thing was crazy. That poor guy. One move, he does one move, now everybody remembers nothing but that forever.

• 2:01:33Speaker 02

  But what?

• 2:01:33Joe Rogan?

  Fuck I Am Legend, fuck Ali, all those different things he did that were awesome, nobody cares anymore. You're like, that's the guy that smacked Chris. Every day he's gotta wake up in the morning and go, fuck. That one thing, fuck. If he hadn't done that, if he just ate it, and by the way, not even bad jokes.

• 2:01:50Speaker 02

  Nothing.

• 2:01:51Joe Rogan?

  G.I. Jane, like that's the most fucking, that was a powerful movie, it was a great movie. About a strong woman. Like it's not even really an insult, it was just silly. To smack a guy like that, and then that's your thing forever, people are gonna remember that? Crazy.

• 2:02:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:06Joe Rogan?

  Crazy blunders, you know, and that probably comes from not having anxiety, by the way. That comes from having too much confidence.

• 2:02:14Speaker 02

  Confidence, too much.

• 2:02:15Joe Rogan?

  Too much. Too much of a belief in yourself, too much of a belief. Yes, in your own importance, that you can interrupt this entire enormous award show, the biggest award show in the industry. That you're set up to receive a fucking Academy Award in about an hour, or whatever it was. You're gonna go up there and smack a guy on TV? Why would you do that? Because he doesn't have that anxiety. So your anxiety shields you from doing something like that. Yeah, the fear and the like, the insecurity sometimes is good. Sometimes it's good for you, keep you, like the lack of insecurity can be the worst thing.

• 2:02:52Speaker 02

  If you're too cocky.

• 2:02:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:54Speaker 02

  It's, yeah, they say be humble. Be humble, you know, and I thought Chris handled it as well as he, what's he gonna do?

• 2:03:05Joe Rogan?

  What can he do other than like, run off the stage?

• 2:03:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:09Joe Rogan?

  Which he probably should have just walked off after he got smacked.

• 2:03:12Speaker 02

  Cause.

• 2:03:13Joe Rogan?

  Try to keep going.

• 2:03:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's. I worked with him on both Oscars he hosted. And he is the nicest guy on the planet. If you, I guess if you're, I don't know, just from working with him, you know.

• 2:03:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's a very nice guy.

• 2:03:28Speaker 02

  He's a nice guy.

• 2:03:29Joe Rogan?

  Also, he's harmless. Like, you can't smack a harmless person. That's crazy.

• 2:03:34Speaker 02

  Yes, I'll tell you what, if that was Tony, there would have been a fight. If that was Tony Rock, there would have been a fight.

• 2:03:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, well, Tony went off on, on stage, like, right afterwards about it, yeah. Tony's a different dude.

• 2:03:48Speaker 02

  But Chris, like, is, like-

• 2:03:49Joe Rogan?

  Almost if it was anybody but Chris. You know, I mean, you can't do that to anybody else. It's cra- if you did it to Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart would crack him. The whole thing's crazy. It was crazy. It didn't make any sense. It's like the guy's in some sort of a very bizarre relationship with his wife. And, you know, whatever internal conflicts they have just manifested itself in a terrible decision that he made.

• 2:04:15Speaker 02

  If, if he would have sma- if he would have said that about my wife, I would have smacked her and said, "Laugh."

• 2:04:20Joe Rogan?

  Ah, laugh. It's funny, come on. But, you know, not being able to take a joke is one of the worst qualities that people can have.

• 2:04:30Speaker 02

  Well, Hollywood.

• 2:04:31Joe Rogan?

  Do you not want, do you take yourself so seriously when, when someone says something funny, you can't laugh as well? That's crazy. You're missing out on laughs. You're missing out on you are, your, your own joy. Like, you should have joy about someone making fun of you, and you're great at that. You're great at that. It's one of the best things about you on ONA, is that when they would crack on you, you would laugh. This, it's so important.

• 2:04:54Speaker 02

  They were good jokes. They were funny. They were on time. And if I was at times lucky enough to come back with something, then I would. If not, then I sucked it. The last time, I did Kill Tony a couple of weeks ago, and I told a joke. And Tony goes, that's the oldest joke in history. And I go, yeah, I wrote it.

• 2:05:15Speaker 02

  Okay, so shut the fuck up. But it was going, it was a great episode because he fucked with me. I took it.

• 2:05:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, Kill Tony is one of the only places left where that kind of fucking with people is like openly encouraged. That, that kind of fucking with people is like, I mean, and Tony's the best roaster on the fucking planet.

• 2:05:35Speaker 02

  He's quick. He's, he's like Norton.

• 2:05:37Joe Rogan?

  He's so quick, you think he, just like Norton. He's so quick, you think he wrote it in advance.

• 2:05:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's quick.

• 2:05:43Joe Rogan?

  It's off the cuff. He does it all the time. He does it in the green room. He does it everywhere he goes.

• 2:05:47Speaker 02

  Well, but here's the thing too. He's done that show for like 10 years or more.

• 2:05:51Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:05:51Speaker 02

  He's built that muscle in his head where boom.

• 2:05:55Joe Rogan?

  Yep, yep.

• 2:05:57Speaker 02

  It, it, it's automatic that something's gonna come back.

• 2:06:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, when you host a show like that too, you understand the rhythm of the show, the beats of it.

• 2:06:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:06:06Joe Rogan?

  And he's so good at letting other people shine. You know, that's, he's really good at like, he wants you to do well. He wants, he doesn't feel upstaged if Shane comes on as Trump or when Kyle was doing. Kyle did RFK Junior and he also did Elon Musk and then.

• 2:06:23Speaker 02

  Who Kyle Dunnigan?

• 2:06:24Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:06:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's so good.

• 2:06:25Joe Rogan?

  Fucking brilliant. That guy is fucking brilliant.

• 2:06:29Speaker 02

  So good.

• 2:06:29Joe Rogan?

  He's so funny. He is so fucking funny.

• 2:06:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:06:32Joe Rogan?

  And then you had Adam Ray who did Dr. Phil was fucking amazing and Biden, it's crazy.

• 2:06:38Speaker 02

  I did.

• 2:06:39Joe Rogan?

  Show so good.

• 2:06:40Speaker 02

  I did Kill Tony twice with Adam Ray and he's fun to be with. One, they love him.

• 2:06:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:46Speaker 02

  They love him. But he laughs and gives you your due too. Like.

• 2:06:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:51Speaker 02

  I've done radio with Gervais. Gervais is a big laugher. If you say something funny.

• 2:06:56Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:06:57Speaker 02

  He'll laugh and crack up. You know what I mean? And you gotta have that. Even, it's just, if it's funny, you know, they don't, they don't get jealous or get mad and go, I'm gonna outdo that. They laugh and.

• 2:07:10Joe Rogan?

  Well, the people that do suck. No one, no one who does that is any good. What's that? No one who does that is any good. No. Like, oh, I gotta do better than him. Yeah, it's stupid. You're missing out on the whole thing. It's a show. It's a show. It's, it's, whatever. Hey, I gotta piss. Let's come back. We'll come right back. This episode is brought to you by Chime. And I know people don't usually get excited about banking, but Chime is doing something different and it's worth paying attention to. In a recent survey, they ranked the number one choice for new checking accounts in America. That means real people, millions of them, are choosing this over traditional banks. That's because banking at Chime is fee-free. No monthly fees, no overdraft fees,

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• 2:09:20Joe Rogan?

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• 2:09:42Speaker 02

  The stem cell, I can't do stuff for a couple of weeks.

• 2:09:49Joe Rogan?

  You could do things.

• 2:09:50Speaker 02

  Golf?

• 2:09:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 2:09:52Speaker 02

  With the stem cell?

• 2:09:53Joe Rogan?

  Yes, of course.

• 2:09:54Speaker 02

  If it gets shot into me Wednesday, what's tomorrow?

• 2:09:58Joe Rogan?

  Tuesday.

• 2:09:58Speaker 02

  I could play golf Thursday.

• 2:10:00Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:10:01Speaker 02

  What about the BPC?

• 2:10:02Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:10:03Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 2:10:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You just can't lift heavy weights.

• 2:10:06Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm not gonna lift heavy weights.

• 2:10:08Joe Rogan?

  That's all it is. Just don't tear it apart while it's building back up. That's the whole idea. Don't aggravate it while you're... Does that hurt when you do that?

• 2:10:15Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:10:16Joe Rogan?

  Then don't worry about it.

• 2:10:16Speaker 02

  Not really.

• 2:10:17Joe Rogan?

  You'll be fine. No, no. Well, you should be doing rehabilitation. You should have already. I'm looking at your shoulders right now. They look like they fall apart on their own. You gotta, you gotta exercise. If you're having injuries with your shoulders and the muscles around them and people are telling you to strengthen them, you should listen to those people. They're right.

• 2:10:32Speaker 02

  Well, no, I, listen, I went to, uh, physical therapy for my back and it, and it's working what I've done.

• 2:10:40Joe Rogan?

  So why wouldn't you do it for your shoulder?

• 2:10:41Speaker 02

  Cause I was waiting to do this shit first to see.

• 2:10:44Joe Rogan?

  All of it would help. The more muscle that you have around your shoulder, the better it is.

• 2:10:49Speaker 02

  It was only two or three weeks ago, he said, go to physical therapy. I go, well, he wanted to cut my shoulder. I said, I'm not cutting it. I'm gonna try the BPC and the stem cell, so.

• 2:10:59Joe Rogan?

  You can definitely heal soft tissue injuries without surgery. The, the real issue is when tendons are separated and they need to be re, re-put back in place and reconnected. That's the real issue.

• 2:11:10Speaker 02

  Well, a lot of people tore rotator cuffs, tear, tear rotator.

• 2:11:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I had a torn, torn rotator cuff.

• 2:11:15Speaker 02

  I think I did it, I was doing upright rows with 50-pound kettlebells, and I think that was too heavy or too much.

• 2:11:25Joe Rogan?

  You gotta train it, Rich.

• 2:11:26Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 2:11:27Joe Rogan?

  Get a trainer.

• 2:11:27Speaker 02

  I'm s- I'm doing all right. I mean, I know how to work out.

• 2:11:32Joe Rogan?

  No, but I, obviously, you need some help. Nothing wrong with a little bit of help.

• 2:11:40Joe Rogan?

  Look, do you want to get better or not?

• 2:11:41Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:11:42Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:11:42Speaker 02

  You mean for my shoulder? You're saying get a trainer for my shoulder?

• 2:11:46Joe Rogan?

  For your shoulder for everything, for all of it. So someone show you how to do it right, so you're not hurting yourself.

• 2:11:50Speaker 02

  Well, I think I'm doing triceps and biceps, right? I know I am. I'm doing lats, right?

• 2:11:57Joe Rogan?

  Show me the guns.

• 2:11:59Speaker 02

  Well, they're not.

• 2:12:00Joe Rogan?

  Then how do you think you're doing them right?

• 2:12:01Speaker 02

  They're not bad.

• 2:12:02Joe Rogan?

  That's ridiculous.

• 2:12:03Speaker 02

  What, small?

• 2:12:04Joe Rogan?

  It's tiny.

• 2:12:04Speaker 02

  Oh, listen.

• 2:12:06Joe Rogan?

  It's there. I mean, I can see it.

• 2:12:08Speaker 02

  It's hard.

• 2:12:09Joe Rogan?

  Is it?

• 2:12:11Speaker 02

  My chest is nice. You want me to do my chest? Do you want to see my chest?

• 2:12:14Joe Rogan?

  No, I'm good.

• 2:12:15Speaker 02

  I'll take my chest out.

• 2:12:16Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no. There's no, no reason.

• 2:12:18Speaker 02

  My lats and traps are good.

• 2:12:20Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:12:20Speaker 02

  Look, for s- almost 68, I think I look better than most people I went to school with.

• 2:12:29Joe Rogan?

  That's good.

• 2:12:30Speaker 02

  I think, I think, look, I work out all the time, but I maintain.

• 2:12:36Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:12:37Speaker 02

  I maintain. I'm not.

• 2:12:38Joe Rogan?

  I feel like a therapist. I feel like I'm helping you through your life.

• 2:12:40Speaker 02

  You are helping.

• 2:12:41Joe Rogan?

  From the moment you got in here.

• 2:12:42Speaker 02

  You are helping.

• 2:12:43Joe Rogan?

  I'm helping to guide you. No, get a fucking professional that knows how to work out and build yourself back up to the point where you're not having these kind of injuries.

• 2:12:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and rehabilitate it like correctly. Like when they tell you to do physical therapy on your shoulder, fucking do it.

• 2:12:57Speaker 02

  I'm gonna do it. I want this fucking.

• 2:12:59Joe Rogan?

  You waited three weeks, you're 68. You only have a few years left. Fix it.

• 2:13:03Speaker 02

  So then what the fuck?

• 2:13:04Joe Rogan?

  Come on.

• 2:13:05Speaker 02

  If I only have a few years, so.

• 2:13:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, do it. You want a few years left and fucking working order.

• 2:13:13Speaker 02

  Fucking listen, Bonnie. I mean.

• 2:13:14Joe Rogan?

  Ah, god, god, god, god, god. You should listen to Bonnie.

• 2:13:19Speaker 02

  You're right. I'm gonna fucking try. What? Do you think I'm never gonna get my arms bigger than that?

• 2:13:28Joe Rogan?

  That's ridiculous. Of course you could.

• 2:13:29Speaker 02

  At 68, you think you can get your arms bigger?

• 2:13:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, 100%. Yeah. The reason why your arms exist at all is because your tissue's regenerating. Your tissue is, you're, you're healing and you're getting better.

• 2:13:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:13:42Joe Rogan?

  You 100% can get stronger. 100%. No if, ands, or buts about it. You will get stronger.

• 2:13:50Speaker 02

  I have nice lats and a nice chest.

• 2:13:52Joe Rogan?

  You could be 87 and still get stronger. As long as you're alive, you can get stronger. Because if your heart beats, if your hormones work, if you can move around, that means your body can repair itself.

• 2:14:04Speaker 02

  Well, I, I won't do, uh...

• 2:14:08Speaker 02

  What is it that gets you hard?

• 2:14:11Joe Rogan?

  Viala?

• 2:14:12Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 2:14:13Joe Rogan?

  Cialis?

• 2:14:14Speaker 02

  Harm, uh, no, not the drug that makes you.

• 2:14:19Joe Rogan?

  Testosterone?

• 2:14:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, testosterone. What's it called? Testosterone.

• 2:14:24Joe Rogan?

  You won't do that?

• 2:14:25Speaker 02

  Well, because it's, it, it, it, it makes it, it leads to prostate cancer.

• 2:14:31Joe Rogan?

  No, it doesn't.

• 2:14:31Speaker 02

  That's what my doctor told me.

• 2:14:32Joe Rogan?

  Your doctor's wrong.

• 2:14:33Speaker 02

  He died.

• 2:14:33Joe Rogan?

  It's incorrectly. Your doctor's an idiot.

• 2:14:36Speaker 02

  He died two years ago.

• 2:14:37Joe Rogan?

  He's a dead idiot.

• 2:14:37Speaker 02

  He died two.

• 2:14:38Joe Rogan?

  No, he doesn't know the, he doesn't know the real studies. Like, there's a guy named Brigham Buehler who runs ways to well, who could explain the flaws in that study that showed that it gave people prostate cancer. Look, people get prostate cancer. Testosterone's not giving you prostate cancer. It's like across the board, the same percentage of people that take testosterone or don't take testosterone get prostate cancer. There's probably a ton of variables. A lot of it has to do with diet. A lot of cancer has to do with diet. Fuel of cancer is sugar. Do you eat a lot of sugar?

• 2:15:11Speaker 02

  I stopped for a year. I'm back, I'm gonna get back on. I eat pretty fucking good for the last month and a half I haven't. For the last, and I'll, for a year.

• 2:15:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's environmental factors, there's genetic factors, there's a lot of different things. But, you know, if you want to take care of yourself, testosterone will actually make your body heal better. You'll feel better, you'll have more energy, your immune system will function better, everything will work better. You should have your hormones balanced. Like, this is, we live in a time where you can get a full blood panel and find out where your nutrient levels are. And if you do it with a good doctor, what they'll do is they'll adjust your diet and your nutrients first and then see, like, in a couple of months, what your levels are then, and then find out, how much are you sleeping? Are you sleeping right?

• 2:15:56Speaker 02

  Bad.

• 2:15:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a problem there, because then your body's not recovering. So you've got to figure out a way to adjust something in your life to make you sleep better. And then after that, once they get everything all worked into its optimum rate, you're doing all the right things, they go, what's, what are your levels now? Okay, well, add a little, add a little bit of testosterone. Peptides that'll increase your body's ability to promote growth hormone. There's stuff like semolin. It makes your body produce more growth hormone. So like your body repairs itself better like when you're younger. So there's all rigorous science behind all this stuff. It's all this many stuff. I'll get Brigham to explain it to you. He'll do a much better job than me.

• 2:16:35Speaker 02

  Who's that you got tomorrow?

• 2:16:36Joe Rogan?

  He's the guy who owns Waste Well. Yeah, he's been on the podcast. He's testified in front of Congress.

• 2:16:40Speaker 02

  And I bring, I'll bring the disc.

• 2:16:43Joe Rogan?

  Bring the maps too. He'll love the maps.

• 2:16:45Speaker 02

  Let me tell you something about these maps.

• 2:16:47Joe Rogan?

  These maps?

• 2:16:47Speaker 02

  I printed this shit out.

• 2:16:49Joe Rogan?

  I see.

• 2:16:49Speaker 02

  I.

• 2:16:50Joe Rogan?

  Looks like your printer needs ink.

• 2:16:54Joe Rogan?

  Pretty dull.

• 2:16:55Speaker 02

  Listen to me, listen to me, fix your eyes.

• 2:16:57Joe Rogan?

  My eyes work pretty good.

• 2:16:59Speaker 02

  You want to see some other statistics I got, all right?

• 2:17:02Joe Rogan?

  What else you got?

• 2:17:03Speaker 02

  No, I don't want to get.

• 2:17:04Joe Rogan?

  Please don't. Did you see those girls land today? The Blue Origin? They shot that metal dick up into space? People were mad they wouldn't let the ladies drive.

• 2:17:12Speaker 00

  Katy Perry and someone else?

• 2:17:13Joe Rogan?

  Katy Perry, Lauren Sanchez, Jeff Bezos's wife. If, if that thing blew up and if Jeff, Jeff Bezos's wife blew up with it.

• 2:17:23Speaker 00

  Twitter thinks that the capsule's too clean. They don't think it was real, obviously.

• 2:17:27Joe Rogan?

  Of course Twitter, Twitter doesn't think space is real. There's a whole community out there hashtag space is fake. Yes, oh yeah, there's really retarded people that think the earth is flat and that there's a firmament. Look at that.

• 2:17:41Speaker 02

  They think birds aren't real.

• 2:17:43Joe Rogan?

  Did they land? Is it over?

• 2:17:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:17:45Joe Rogan?

  They did it? Yay. How'd they land in the ocean?

• 2:17:48Speaker 00

  In the desert.

• 2:17:49Speaker 02

  How long did they go for?

• 2:17:50Speaker 00

  Parachutes.

• 2:17:51Joe Rogan?

  They land with parachutes?

• 2:17:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:53Joe Rogan?

  So the thing lands with a parachute?

• 2:17:54Speaker 00

  I'll show you video.

• 2:17:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, let me see. I want to see the video. Oh, that's them in the middle of the desert? Wow.

• 2:18:00Speaker 00

  No, it doesn't, it's got, it looks different than that.

• 2:18:02Joe Rogan?

  That has to be crazy. That is, would you do that, Rich? Would you go to space?

• 2:18:07Speaker 02

  Uh, probably not.

• 2:18:09Joe Rogan?

  You think you'd get, you'd think you'd get anxiety if you went to space?

• 2:18:11Speaker 02

  I don't even like Ferris wheels.

• 2:18:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, those two things are very different. Is that it?

• 2:18:18Speaker 02

  Eh, you know what?

• 2:18:20Joe Rogan?

  Let's see the landing.

• 2:18:25Joe Rogan?

  People get their stuff in there.

• 2:18:26Speaker 02

  How, how long did they go for?

• 2:18:27Joe Rogan?

  Very soft, soft landing. Look at this. Here it is. Imagine from space and the only thing we got to land you is a parachute. Like, one of the oldest technologies. Wow. You can hear him in there.

• 2:18:42Speaker 02

  Blue Origin.

• 2:18:42Joe Rogan?

  Screaming. Wow.

• 2:18:46Speaker 02

  How long? How long were they up there?

• 2:18:48Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Not long. Isn't it funny that they screamed? Do you think the men would scream like that? Would you and I scream like that if we landed?

• 2:18:56Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know about you, but I know me.

• 2:18:58Joe Rogan?

  Look at that one. Look at that go back. The one below it.

• 2:19:06Speaker 02

  I'll tell you what I'll never do is clap when a pilot lands.

• 2:19:10Joe Rogan?

  You don't do that?

• 2:19:10Speaker 02

  That's his fucking job.

• 2:19:13Joe Rogan?

  It's true. What if it's a female pilot? You're like, phew.

• 2:19:16Speaker 02

  I wouldn't have got on the plane. No.

• 2:19:21Joe Rogan?

  There was a bunch of them in a row where I was like, Jesus Christ. The Delta one in Canada where it flipped upside down.

• 2:19:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, can you ma-

• 2:19:29Joe Rogan?

  The lady just started landing planes recently. Like, yeah, take that one out in the icy runway.

• 2:19:33Speaker 02

  Here's 30,000. No, I'll wait for the lawsuit.

• 2:19:35Joe Rogan?

  Blue Origin declined to say how much the flight cost or who paid for it. Trip came two months before Sanchez and Bezos to marry in Ven- oh, they're gonna marry in Venice in two months? Oh, they haven't married yet? Oh, okay. I thought they'd already married. Um, that's hilarious. They're gonna do it in Venice. Oh, how beautiful and romantic. Wow. Yeah, quit. You can't tell people how much it costs, because then there's gonna be retards like, "That money could have housed so many houseless, so many unhoused could have benefited. How many poor people?" It's like, these fucking retards like, "If Elon Musk gave a million dollars to everyone on earth, he'd have money left over."

• 2:20:15Joe Rogan?

  There's all these mathematicians out there that are fucking constantly wanna comment on other people's money. How convenient.

• 2:20:23Speaker 02

  And those, and those people would fuck up that money too.

• 2:20:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's all the rich people are the problem. Not me, I'm rich, but I'm not as rich as the richest people. So everybody richer than me is a problem.

• 2:20:34Speaker 02

  Ah, fucking house too.

• 2:20:36Joe Rogan?

  All these people, all these fucking people. Yes, I own three homes, but I'm a United States, da da da. And I'm worth millions and millions of dollars, but everyone richer than me is the problem. It's the rich, rich, rich people, not the regular, regular rich.

• 2:20:51Speaker 02

  Oh, that tour.

• 2:20:52Joe Rogan?

  There's so many.

• 2:20:53Speaker 02

  Him and AOC.

• 2:20:54Joe Rogan?

  Wondering, yeah, tax the rich. Remember she had that fucking dress she wore? Tax the rich. How about fuck off? What are you gonna do with the taxes? That's the problem. When, when Doge is uncovering 250 million dollars that was spent on animal transgender studies where you're fucking chopping the dicks of mice and turning them into pussies. Fuck off. Fuck off with your tax the rich. How about you fix the world without taxing the shit out of everybody? How about?

• 2:21:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, get rid of that.

• 2:21:22Joe Rogan?

  There's other ways.

• 2:21:23Speaker 02

  I can't even tell you what I sent the other day to the IRS. It's just fucking... And I'm, you know, just a regular fucking, you know, so much money. I'm like, what the fuck?

• 2:21:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, they were complaining about Elon. Elon doesn't pay taxes. Elon paid more taxes last year than any human being that has ever walked the face of this nation. That's a fact. So shut the fuck up. It's like, there's never, it's never enough. And people that don't have, always look at people that do have, like, what you could do with that money? Well, you could do with your money, you fuckhead. One, one percent in the world, you know what it is? If you're a one percenter? In the world, you know what it is? Thirty-four thousand dollars a year.

• 2:22:08Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:22:08Joe Rogan?

  Yes. If you make thirty-four thousand American dollars a year, you are in the top one percent of planet Earth.

• 2:22:17Speaker 02

  Get the fuck out. Oh, well, cuz you're comparing it to third world countries.

• 2:22:21Joe Rogan?

  All of the planet, the whole planet. Most people are dirt poor. Most people. So all this bullshit about, well, he could do that money. Well, you're saying that from your fucking Manhattan apartment? While you're Ubering all over the place and getting fucking takeout? Shut your mouth.

• 2:22:38Speaker 02

  Listen, when I was in Cabo, working there, it was amazing. You drive to the airport, people are living in fucking shacks, dirt, this and that. It's...

• 2:22:48Joe Rogan?

  It's horrible.

• 2:22:48Speaker 02

  It's horrible, but...

• 2:22:52Speaker 02

  Look, it's, it sounds narcissistic. I came from a major, major drug addict. And I turned my life around. It's, it's all, you gotta find a way to do what you can for yourself. I don't give a fuck where you are. I grew up with dudes from heroin addicts to people with five kids at fucking 22 or whatever. And a lot of people made it out of there and found a way to be successful.

• 2:23:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you could look at it that way, but the point is like, looking at people that are uber-successful and telling them what they should do with their money is just the dumbest shit. And that's why they don't wanna give out how much money it costs to fly this rocket ship into space. Of course it's frivolous and gratuitous, of course. It's a publicity stunt. They had a bunch of hot ladies, they flew them off into space and then they landed, yay! Now you've been to space. But basically, you're in space for like 10 minutes. That's what the flight was. It probably cost a billion dollars to fly people into space for 10 minutes.

• 2:23:57Speaker 02

  Wow, dude, how many fucking clubs you could've bought me?

• 2:24:02Joe Rogan?

  How many golf clubs?

• 2:24:03Speaker 02

  How many golf clubs?

• 2:24:04Joe Rogan?

  That's your thing, right? You're just a fucking inveterate golfer, right?

• 2:24:07Speaker 02

  I love golf.

• 2:24:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You and Jamie. Jamie should show you his setup back there.

• 2:24:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24:12Joe Rogan?

  He's got a driving computer with a big screen.

• 2:24:15Speaker 02

  I have, I, I was hitting in, in this morning into the screen, I, I...

• 2:24:20Joe Rogan?

  You bring the screen with you?

• 2:24:21Speaker 02

  I just went at the hotel.

• 2:24:23Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:24:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's amazing.

• 2:24:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, at the Thompson. I went down, worked out twice.

• 2:24:27Joe Rogan?

  You shouldn't tell people where you're staying.

• 2:24:28Speaker 02

  No, I, I'm not staying there, I went, walked over there.

• 2:24:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:24:31Speaker 02

  And used their screen.

• 2:24:33Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:24:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24:34Joe Rogan?

  No shit?

• 2:24:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, I bought my clubs. Yeah, and plus, this isn't live.

• 2:24:39Joe Rogan?

  You and Jamie should fucking have a little driving contest.

• 2:24:42Speaker 02

  I think Jamie...

• 2:24:43Speaker 00

  I've played with him and Tony before.

• 2:24:45Speaker 02

  We played together?

• 2:24:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, a couple of years ago, like two years ago, maybe.

• 2:24:48Speaker 02

  Oh, with me, you and Tony, right?

• 2:24:50Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:24:51Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:24:52Joe Rogan?

  You won?

• 2:24:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24:54Joe Rogan?

  How good do you play? How good is he, Jamie?

• 2:24:56Speaker 00

  I don't recall. I mean, I'm not good either, so it probably.

• 2:24:59Speaker 02

  I shoot anywhere from eighty-two to I wanna break a club.

• 2:25:03Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what any of those numbers are.

• 2:25:05Speaker 02

  Eighty-two's pretty good sometimes. I've shot in the seventies.

• 2:25:07Joe Rogan?

  How is it, Jamie? Pretty good?

• 2:25:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, very good.

• 2:25:10Joe Rogan?

  Pretty good?

• 2:25:10Speaker 02

  I shot, I played.

• 2:25:11Speaker 00

  Eighteen holes, but yeah.

• 2:25:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:13Joe Rogan?

  When I was a kid, the guys who golfed all the time were the guys who weren't paying as much attention to their career. I remember thinking like, a lot of these guys are kinda stagnant because they're golfing all day.

• 2:25:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:23Joe Rogan?

  They were golf, in Boston, those guys would golf all fucking day long, get hammered.

• 2:25:28Speaker 02

  That you grew up with?

• 2:25:29Joe Rogan?

  No, guys that I started out with.

• 2:25:31Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:25:32Joe Rogan?

  The golfers all wound up spending so much time playing golf, I thought it was like, wow, that's a big distraction. You should have some activities, but golf is like, how many hours?

• 2:25:44Speaker 02

  Four and a half.

• 2:25:45Joe Rogan?

  That's a lot of hours.

• 2:25:46Speaker 02

  It's a lot of hours, but also too, it makes you disconnect from the, all the bullshit that's going on in life. You know, you don't have to deal with whatever, you know.

• 2:25:57Joe Rogan?

  Do you golf with comics too? So you get to talk some shit?

• 2:26:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think I'm gonna golf, if I can after, I get these shots Thursday with Aaron Berg, I think I'm gonna golf with him.

• 2:26:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you definitely can. You could golf on Thursday, for sure. It's, golfing is not gonna fuck it up. It'll be sore for a day or two after you get the injections, but you'll be fine. We gotta clean you up, Rich Foss. Clean up your life.

• 2:26:20Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 2:26:21Joe Rogan?

  We're gonna do it. Check in with me. I'll tell you what to do.

• 2:26:26Speaker 02

  I, look, I'll show you my chest.

• 2:26:28Joe Rogan?

  Don't do it.

• 2:26:30Speaker 02

  I'll show you a picture.

• 2:26:31Joe Rogan?

  I don't care.

• 2:26:33Speaker 02

  So you're saying from here on?

• 2:26:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:26:36Speaker 02

  You're not saying?

• 2:26:37Joe Rogan?

  What, what, what are you gonna, you gonna impress me with your chest? That's crazy.

• 2:26:41Speaker 02

  Well, you say I got small arms, I gotta say, well, I got a nice chest.

• 2:26:45Joe Rogan?

  They're big.

• 2:26:46Speaker 02

  I never once said my arms.

• 2:26:47Joe Rogan?

  Good. Your triceps and your biceps are good. That's crazy.

• 2:26:51Speaker 02

  Oh, listen, let me explain something to you, okay? Fucking waffle neck.

• 2:26:57Joe Rogan?

  Waffle neck? Is that bad?

• 2:27:00Speaker 02

  No, I call them my kid's ass.

• 2:27:01Joe Rogan?

  What does waffle neck mean?

• 2:27:03Speaker 02

  I call them chicken head.

• 2:27:06Speaker 02

  Okay, you're right, they're not big, but they're hard and they're not flabby under here.

• 2:27:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not falling apart.

• 2:27:14Speaker 02

  Okay, I'm not, I'm not some flabby.

• 2:27:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, congratulations.

• 2:27:17Speaker 02

  What the fuck?

• 2:27:19Joe Rogan?

  You want credit for being okay?

• 2:27:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:27:22Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 2:27:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:27:23Joe Rogan?

  Whatever happened to mister pull yourself up by your bootstraps, get your shit together, what about all that talk?

• 2:27:28Speaker 02

  That's, hey.

• 2:27:29Joe Rogan?

  You're barely doing anything, you're like, you're okay.

• 2:27:32Speaker 02

  I work out six days a week, I lift.

• 2:27:35Joe Rogan?

  Do you?

• 2:27:36Speaker 02

  Yes, I have a nice gym in my basement.

• 2:27:38Joe Rogan?

  Do you think if I worked out with you, I'd be impressed at the effort that you put for?

• 2:27:41Speaker 02

  Not in the least.

• 2:27:44Speaker 02

  Not in the least. I could do, I could, I do 500 crunches.

• 2:27:49Joe Rogan?

  That's amazing, I do zero. I don't do any crunches.

• 2:27:53Speaker 02

  What do you do, sit-ups?

• 2:27:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I do a lot of different stuff for abs.

• 2:27:56Speaker 02

  Do you do, uh, planks?

• 2:27:58Joe Rogan?

  No, I think planks are nonsense.

• 2:28:00Speaker 02

  So do I, they're uncomfortable.

• 2:28:02Joe Rogan?

  It's hard to do, don't get me wrong, but I think in terms of an exercise for your core, it's kinda nonsense. I think, uh, you should do things, first of all, you should almost always do things that have a range of motion. Like when you're, you're, I like to do things that make my body work as a unit.

• 2:28:18Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 2:28:19Joe Rogan?

  So, all the ab exercises that I do, I do a lot of different things for abs. I do reverse squats, you know what those are? You put your ankles, strap your ankles to a cable machine, you lay on your back and you pull towards you.

• 2:28:32Speaker 02

  Oh, I know.

• 2:28:33Joe Rogan?

  I do those.

• 2:28:34Speaker 02

  Well, I got one of those machines where

• 2:28:38Speaker 02

  I put my knees in it and I pull up to get the bottom.

• 2:28:41Joe Rogan?

  Okay, yeah, that's good, those are good.

• 2:28:43Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying?

• 2:28:43Joe Rogan?

  Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, those are good.

• 2:28:45Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 2:28:45Joe Rogan?

  Anything where you work your whole core, you, and then you gotta also do the opposite side, back extensions, you should do that back extension.

• 2:28:51Speaker 02

  I do it on that thing I showed you.

• 2:28:53Joe Rogan?

  You were showing me, yeah.

• 2:28:54Speaker 02

  Uh, I'll do back, uh, because, and I, I gotta lose another 10 pounds again, I gained it back during, but it comes and go. Uh, and, cause I have lower.

• 2:29:07Speaker 02

  Disc problems and you know I'm got a sciatica so whenever I lose weight I'm in much better shape.

• 2:29:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I could tell by when you got on that stretching machine, the Dex thing. Your body doesn't go all the way down. It's tight. Your lower back is very tight.

• 2:29:23Speaker 02

  Oh, I'll go in there right now and go all the way down. I was just doing it just to.

• 2:29:27Joe Rogan?

  No, I'm saying there's tension. You see how my body hinges? My body just hinges. It just goes down there. There's no tension. Yours is like, you stop like right there. You probably could go all the way down, but your body doesn't want to. The point is there's tension in your lower back.

• 2:29:41Speaker 02

  Well, I've never used that machine too. It was my first time.

• 2:29:44Joe Rogan?

  Stop with excuses. Do you stretch? No.

• 2:29:47Speaker 02

  On stage, if they need you to do an extra 20. I've done it two hours. If DL Ugly and I'm middling and he's coming four hours late. Back in the day, I was working Caroline's and I was opening for DL. And you know, I'm doing all my good stuff up front.

• 2:30:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no. And then they have to stretch.

• 2:30:09Speaker 02

  And I go stretch, I'm going, what am I gonna do now?

• 2:30:12Joe Rogan?

  He wasn't there yet?

• 2:30:13Speaker 02

  No, he wasn't.

• 2:30:14Joe Rogan?

  That's the worst feeling in the world.

• 2:30:15Speaker 02

  Walking in with his.

• 2:30:16Joe Rogan?

  You get all your best material and they're telling you to stretch like, I don't have it. And you're scouring your brain.

• 2:30:21Speaker 02

  You're scouring your brain.

• 2:30:22Joe Rogan?

  Well, luckily for you, you can work the crowd.

• 2:30:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I, now what was the question? Am I doing, do I stretch?

• 2:30:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do for my back. I have this actually, I lie down. And I pull this back like that. That's good for my lower back. Do you know what that is?

• 2:30:42Joe Rogan?

  Do I know what it is?

• 2:30:43Speaker 02

  Do you know what I'm talking about?

• 2:30:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crossing your legs and leaning forward?

• 2:30:48Speaker 02

  And I pull it back.

• 2:30:49Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:30:50Speaker 02

  And then when I'm doing sit up crunches, I'll do it either on that machine or I'll pull my legs this way too. So I'm getting my lower.

• 2:31:00Joe Rogan?

  I'm watching you move, I'm like, oh my god.

• 2:31:03Speaker 02

  First of all, I know the crew you have come in here, a lot of them, none of them work out at all.

• 2:31:08Joe Rogan?

  A lot of them do. Who doesn't work out at all? Name one.

• 2:31:11Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 2:31:14Speaker 02

  No, I don't wanna.

• 2:31:15Joe Rogan?

  Name again.

• 2:31:15Speaker 02

  Uh, uh, Ari.

• 2:31:18Joe Rogan?

  Shane, Ari. Ari doesn't work out at all.

• 2:31:19Speaker 02

  Okay, next one.

• 2:31:20Joe Rogan?

  That's true.

• 2:31:21Speaker 02

  Mark Norman.

• 2:31:22Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if Norman works out.

• 2:31:23Speaker 02

  Look at him.

• 2:31:24Speaker 00

  Mark Norman definitely works out.

• 2:31:26Speaker 02

  Oh, he does?

• 2:31:26Joe Rogan?

  He runs.

• 2:31:27Speaker 00

  He can do a lot of pull-ups and sit-ups.

• 2:31:28Speaker 02

  From audiences.

• 2:31:32Speaker 02

  He lov- you know what I like talking to Mark? He loves comedy.

• 2:31:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he loves it.

• 2:31:36Speaker 02

  And he knows the history of it. But he knows the history of it.

• 2:31:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:31:40Speaker 02

  Like, you'll talk to comics now and go, "Oh, Steve Landisberg was funny." Or just, "Who was that?"

• 2:31:47Joe Rogan?

  Look at him. Come on, man. Of course he works out.

• 2:31:49Speaker 02

  Oh, shit, he's ripped.

• 2:31:50Joe Rogan?

  He's ripped.

• 2:31:51Speaker 02

  I don't like that.

• 2:31:51Joe Rogan?

  How dare you?

• 2:31:52Speaker 02

  That fucking-

• 2:31:53Joe Rogan?

  Now you feel bad.

• 2:31:53Speaker 02

  Now I've- bad.

• 2:31:55Joe Rogan?

  You feel bad, right?

• 2:31:55Speaker 02

  It hurts me to see that.

• 2:31:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:58Speaker 02

  Are you kidding me?

• 2:31:58Joe Rogan?

  You're talking shit, and he looks great.

• 2:31:59Speaker 02

  Oh, fuck.

• 2:32:00Joe Rogan?

  You're talking shit, he looks like a male model.

• 2:32:01Speaker 02

  But guess what?

• 2:32:02Joe Rogan?

  Show me that again, Jamie.

• 2:32:03Speaker 02

  He's not holding up a newspaper. We don't know when that was shot.

• 2:32:06Joe Rogan?

  Who cares when it was shot? You never looked like that. Show me that again.

• 2:32:09Speaker 02

  Yes, I- oh, yeah?

• 2:32:10Joe Rogan?

  What are you gonna do? Take your clothes off?

• 2:32:11Speaker 02

  No, I'm gonna take the picture.

• 2:32:13Joe Rogan?

  Look at it, he looks fucking good there.

• 2:32:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, he does.

• 2:32:15Joe Rogan?

  He looks good.

• 2:32:16Speaker 02

  So does his wife. God damn it. Yeah.

• 2:32:19Joe Rogan?

  Look at that, right there, he's got boxing gloves on and an iPhone. He's in shape, man.

• 2:32:23Speaker 02

  All right.

• 2:32:23Joe Rogan?

  You're incorrect.

• 2:32:24Speaker 02

  All right, relax.

• 2:32:25Joe Rogan?

  Feel bad, right?

• 2:32:26Speaker 02

  No, I don't.

• 2:32:27Joe Rogan?

  Shane works out. He's here all the time.

• 2:32:29Speaker 02

  This is not working out.

• 2:32:31Joe Rogan?

  We work out.

• 2:32:32Speaker 02

  Shane works out?

• 2:32:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he comes in, uses the gym.

• 2:32:34Speaker 02

  Where did I put my-

• 2:32:35Joe Rogan?

  We work out together. Will you put your glasses so you can find your abs?

• 2:32:41Speaker 02

  Let me fuck- you're really similar.

• 2:32:46Speaker 02

  He's going there somewhere.

• 2:32:48Joe Rogan?

  All right, listen to me, fucking- You are looking for your glasses. Are you gonna find a photo of you looking good?

• 2:32:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:32:53Joe Rogan?

  Forget about that, that's the past. Let's concentrate on now. Let's concentrate on, put away the cookies. Put away the sugar.

• 2:32:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do that part here.

• 2:33:00Joe Rogan?

  Listen to your doctor, he tells you to rehab your shoulder. Get yourself in shape. Can't believe we're doing this. You know, people are listening, they can't see this.

• 2:33:08Speaker 02

  I- I- they couldn't see the picture of him either.

• 2:33:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but I mean, this, you being on your phone here, looking for a photo of back in the day when you looked reasonable.

• 2:33:16Speaker 02

  This was recently.

• 2:33:18Joe Rogan?

  How long ago? What happened?

• 2:33:20Speaker 02

  What happened? Oh, fuck. Oh, Jesus.

• 2:33:26Joe Rogan?

  Look at you. They look good there.

• 2:33:28Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 2:33:29Joe Rogan?

  Not bad.

• 2:33:29Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:33:30Joe Rogan?

  You look pretty good right there. What happened?

• 2:33:33Speaker 02

  It's not that bad now.

• 2:33:34Joe Rogan?

  How long ago was this? 2018? Oh, that's pretty recent. That's pretty recent.

• 2:33:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:33:39Joe Rogan?

  Pre-pandemic. A lot of people fell apart during the pandemic.

• 2:33:42Speaker 02

  That's what happened. And then I came back on track for a year.

• 2:33:46Joe Rogan?

  A whole year.

• 2:33:47Speaker 02

  And then since January, when I was in Canada.

• 2:33:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Canada did you?

• 2:33:52Speaker 02

  Canada fucked me up.

• 2:33:53Joe Rogan?

  Communism. They got you with communism.

• 2:34:00Joe Rogan?

  They made you eat poutines.

• 2:34:02Speaker 02

  Oh, that shit is good.

• 2:34:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's so good.

• 2:34:04Speaker 02

  It's so.

• 2:34:05Joe Rogan?

  Late night, late night poutine.

• 2:34:07Speaker 02

  Just, it's just pure heart attack.

• 2:34:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they have different delis in Canada. Like, we used to go to Montreal, those, uh, they, they call it smoked meat.

• 2:34:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:34:16Joe Rogan?

  It's basically like going to Cantor's, right? Or going to Katz in New York.

• 2:34:19Speaker 02

  I've been to a couple of those smoked meat.

• 2:34:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, phenomenal.

• 2:34:23Speaker 02

  But, you know, if you, I heard, and I don't know if it's true, and I, if you eat too much smoked meat, you can get stomach cancer from that, from all that smoked meat.

• 2:34:33Joe Rogan?

  Who fucking told you that?

• 2:34:34Speaker 02

  This guy with stomach cancer. No, not true.

• 2:34:38Joe Rogan?

  Smoked meat is not what it is. They, there is some connection between burnt meat, like, the carbon in burnt meat and cancer. Uh, I think it's colo, colorectal cancer, but I do not know how robust those studies are.

• 2:34:52Speaker 02

  I, I mean.

• 2:34:54Joe Rogan?

  People have been cooking over fire forever. I just don't, I don't buy it. There's a lot of bullshit involved in these studies that tell you that this causes cancer, that causes cancer. Here's what 100% causes cancer. Herbicides, pesticides, chemicals, forever chemicals that are in your fucking food. That pla, that paper cup that you're drinking out of when you drink hot liquids out of a paper cup? We gotta throw those fucking paper cups we have. Have you seen what Paul Saladino did when he dissolved a Starbucks cup? And it shows you what's really at the base of it. It's basically a condom. And so, see if you can find Paul Saladino's video.

• 2:35:28Speaker 02

  Well, you got all those paper cups. I'll take them home.

• 2:35:30Joe Rogan?

  I know. I saw them today. I poured my crappie in this. We're gonna get rid of all our paper cups.

• 2:35:34Speaker 02

  I'll take them.

• 2:35:35Joe Rogan?

  Paper cups for hot liquids are fucking stupid.

• 2:35:37Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:35:38Joe Rogan?

  The lining of those paper cups is plastic. So you're basically pouring hot liquid into plastic, which is the worst.

• 2:35:45Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:35:45Joe Rogan?

  Like, look at, see, he shows. So he's dissolving the paper cup, and that's what's inside of it. So you think you're drinking out of a paper cup, but it's not really paper. It's plastic. It's, there's a plastic lining, and that's the only reason why those coffee cups from Starbucks hold paper. So hot water to plastic. Give me some volume on this.

• 2:36:07Speaker 05

  Chemicals, PFAs, anything in that plastic is leaching into your drink, unleashing into your coffee drink. So do not think you're getting a paper cup. You are getting a plastic cup, and you are putting hot water into it. That's a horrible, horrible idea. Look at that. Looks like a condom. What's the solution? Glass jar. Get your coffee in a glass jar or a stainless steel mug. Simple solution. Don't expose hot liquids to plastic like this. Horrible idea for your hormones, horrible for your body. Send this to somebody you know who drinks hot coffee out of paper cups like this and needs to get them out of glass or stainless steel. You think this is a-

• 2:36:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there you go.

• 2:36:40Speaker 02

  My wife, she won't drink that. She knows all this shit. She's, she's a reader.

• 2:36:43Joe Rogan?

  You should listen to Bonnie. Just listen to Bonnie.

• 2:36:45Speaker 02

  I try to. She meditates. She's really good, you know.

• 2:36:49Joe Rogan?

  She's smart. Which is weird. The two of you guys together, that it works.

• 2:36:52Speaker 02

  It's cra- it's-

• 2:36:54Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy.

• 2:36:54Speaker 02

  It's like, it's like, you know what I, here's the deal. What, what month, what are we at?

• 2:36:59Joe Rogan?

  Uh, April.

• 2:37:00Speaker 02

  April. April, uh-

• 2:37:02Joe Rogan?

  Fifteenth, fourteenth, fourteenth?

• 2:37:04Speaker 02

  April fourteenth. So let's go, April fourteenth, May, June thirtieth, I'm back here at the club on my birthday.

• 2:37:13Joe Rogan?

  Okay. So you're gonna look good.

• 2:37:15Speaker 02

  I'll look, I'll look, alright.

• 2:37:17Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna go to June thirtieth. We'll take a picture. I'll put it on my Instagram. Take your shirt off, flex.

• 2:37:21Speaker 02

  Uh, not now.

• 2:37:23Joe Rogan?

  No, June thirtieth.

• 2:37:24Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:37:24Joe Rogan?

  We're giving you time.

• 2:37:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:37:25Joe Rogan?

  I wanted to give you a goal.

• 2:37:27Speaker 02

  June thirtieth. Is that enough time, you think?

• 2:37:28Joe Rogan?

  Sure. Absolutely.

• 2:37:30Speaker 02

  Two months?

• 2:37:31Joe Rogan?

  Yes, in two months, you can lose twenty pounds of fat and look great. Yeah, just eat healthy. Just get on a very low carbohydrate diet.

• 2:37:41Speaker 02

  That's what I did. I'm not doing keto, I'm not gay, but I went.

• 2:37:44Joe Rogan?

  Keto's gay?

• 2:37:46Speaker 02

  A little. I, when I try to cut carbs, let me tell you something, it was easier for me to quit crack than it was carbs.

• 2:37:55Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:37:56Speaker 02

  Well, I never gave anybody a handjob for a Kaiser roll.

• 2:38:01Speaker 02

  So, uh, part of my act, folks, he's killing.

• 2:38:05Speaker 02

  June 30th, the week I'm here.

• 2:38:07Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:38:10Speaker 02

  I don't know how much bigger my arms will be.

• 2:38:12Joe Rogan?

  You don't have to get bigger.

• 2:38:13Speaker 02

  Just be, cut more cut up.

• 2:38:15Joe Rogan?

  Get you to look good.

• 2:38:15Speaker 02

  But I think I look okay.

• 2:38:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, we're gonna get you a blood panel tomorrow too. They'll find out where your hormone levels are at, find out what the fuck is wrong with you.

• 2:38:22Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 2:38:23Joe Rogan?

  All that shit.

• 2:38:24Speaker 02

  Blood panel with my-

• 2:38:25Joe Rogan?

  They'll draw blood. They'll draw blood and then send it to a lab.

• 2:38:27Speaker 02

  They're not gonna tell me I have cancer.

• 2:38:29Joe Rogan?

  They could if you wanna know.

• 2:38:31Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:38:31Joe Rogan?

  You don't wanna know.

• 2:38:32Speaker 02

  I already had blood tests at my doctor's office. They sent my blood-

• 2:38:35Joe Rogan?

  Did your doctor do a comprehensive cancer scan?

• 2:38:39Speaker 02

  Did pro- prostate?

• 2:38:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just looked in your asshole. That's all they did.

• 2:38:43Speaker 02

  No, with the blood and, and looked at my sugar levels.

• 2:38:46Joe Rogan?

  They can do this incredibly comprehensive blood panel. They draw, they dig a lot of blood out and then they send it to a lab and they find out whether or not you have a- I have zero cancer. I'm super happy. Because when they did it, I was like, ooh, I have the same feeling. I don't know if I wanna know this.

• 2:39:00Speaker 02

  It's a scam, waiting for fucking-

• 2:39:03Joe Rogan?

  Start thinking about it and start mind fucking yourself, laying in bed at night like, what if I have it right now? What if I find out tomorrow and I have four weeks to live?

• 2:39:10Speaker 02

  It's fucking too much anxiety. When I went back in the day, everybody like went for the AIDS test after you got clean.

• 2:39:19Joe Rogan?

  I remember my first AIDS test.

• 2:39:21Speaker 02

  So I got my AIDS-

• 2:39:22Joe Rogan?

  I was so scared.

• 2:39:23Speaker 02

  Okay, this is true. My doctor, whenever I went to my doctor and took any test, he would call me and say, everything's fine. There were calls, everything's fine.

• 2:39:33Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:39:34Speaker 02

  So I took an AIDS test.

• 2:39:36Joe Rogan?

  Doctor didn't call you?

• 2:39:37Speaker 02

  And I get a call from the doctor. And he said, can you come in tomorrow? I'm going, what do you mean, come in tomorrow? My heart dropped, because he would have said, everything's fine. I go, what do you mean? Why do you want me to come in tomorrow? He goes, uh, your tooth came in. And we want to put your tooth, it was my dentist, but I heard doctor. I thought it was my real doctor telling me I have fucking AIDS. You know, because everybody took that test in the, in the eighties.

• 2:40:04Joe Rogan?

  Uh, when I first got, um, insurance, I had to get an AIDS test in the nineties. And I remember the doctor, I said, boy, I'm fucking real nervous about this. And the doctor said, are you gay? I said, no. He goes, do you do drugs? I go, no. He goes, don't worry about it. You don't have it? I go, really? He goes, yeah. I go, what the butter about the fucking news?

• 2:40:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:40:22Joe Rogan?

  The news is freaking me out, where I'm scared to touch fucking doorknobs. Like, how come, how come the news is saying that everybody's gonna get AIDS? He goes, listen, no one's getting it. Other than gay people and people who are interven- intervenant drug users.

• 2:40:36Speaker 02

  Well, people on my block were dropping, we went to see Pee Wee in a hospital. And all the nurses were wearing masks. So we go, I think he has that thing. Nobody even knew what the fuck, you know?

• 2:40:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they thought it was contagious. By the way, that was Fauci too.

• 2:40:52Speaker 02

  Back then?

• 2:40:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He's responsible for all that. Fauci was responsible for people freaking out about AIDS. Fauci was on TV back in the eighties, telling people that children could possibly catch it from people. Yes.

• 2:41:04Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 2:41:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, do you know the Dallas Buyers Club? Where they were limiting the medication that gay people could take? That was about Fauci. He was responsible for that. He was the one who pushed AZT on people back then.

• 2:41:17Speaker 02

  What's?

• 2:41:17Joe Rogan?

  AZT was that chemotherapy medication that was killing people quicker than the cancer was. They stopped using it on cancer, and they repurposed it and started using it on people that had AIDS.

• 2:41:26Speaker 02

  And it, it didn't help.

• 2:41:28Joe Rogan?

  And it kills you dead. They were giving it to people that didn't even have any fucking symptoms. They had HIV, they had no symptoms, they'd given them AZT, they were dying in months. It was the only time ever in medical history where they were telling you to take a chemotherapy drug indefinitely. Every time you take chemotherapy, the idea is that it gets your body close to death, but kills off the cancer. They were telling you to keep taking it, just keep taking it. It's nuts. What they did is madness. If you read Robert Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, it's all about that. And the beginning of it is all about the AIDS crisis and all the different things that they did that mirrors exactly what they did during the COVID crisis.

• 2:42:07Speaker 02

  So what drugs are they using now?

• 2:42:09Joe Rogan?

  They started using protease inhibitors and that really helped. Like the whole AIDS thing is very complex. It's very complex because the vast majority of the people that got AIDS were were heavy drug users. Heavy drug users were gay guys who were experiencing, you know, a lot of different sexual partners.

• 2:42:26Speaker 02

  But it was because of blood being transferred.

• 2:42:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's part of it, but it's also part of it, you're destroying your immune system with fucking drugs. Like these guys were taking amyl nitrate and crystal meth and partying and not sleeping, just crushing their immune system.

• 2:42:40Speaker 02

  Plus sharing needles with the blood going from.

• 2:42:42Joe Rogan?

  Yep, that too. And then they would get them on medication that would definitely kill them. And then it was a crisis. And then, you know, everybody was running around scared and I was scared too, until I talked to my doctor. He just looked me in the eyes. But no one could say that back then. So this is like ninety...

• 2:43:00Joe Rogan?

  Ninety-one, maybe? Maybe ninety-one, ninety-two?

• 2:43:03Speaker 02

  Eighty-eight.

• 2:43:04Joe Rogan?

  And when I got, and my doctor was like, don't worry about it. I was like, what about the news, man? Like, I remember talking to this guy, he was a young guy. I was like, why is the news telling me I could get? He goes, heterosexuals aren't getting this. Unless you're an antiviruses drug user, don't worry about it.

• 2:43:18Speaker 02

  I, I, I only checked because I shot dope like maybe three times.

• 2:43:24Speaker 02

  I didn't like it. It was just not, you know, I was more of a up, you know.

• 2:43:29Joe Rogan?

  What did shooting dope do feel like? What did it feel like?

• 2:43:32Speaker 02

  Just down and I, I can't, it wasn't, I did it with Bastille and.

• 2:43:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh Frankie was a, he was a major one. He was funny though. Frankie was funny. I remember seeing him for the first time when I was an open mic'er in eighty-eight.

• 2:43:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:48Joe Rogan?

  And he was just a wild dude. He was like one of the first guys I ever saw with tattoos, all these tattoos and they're like, he does heroin.

• 2:43:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, oh really? That's heroin. When someone did heroin back there and it was crazy, like what? He does heroin? Now, think about how many people are hooked on opiates. Back then it was super rare.

• 2:44:06Speaker 02

  Well, the difference between heroin and like freebase, you can function on heroin. There's functioning heroin addicts for years.

• 2:44:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:14Speaker 02

  Do it. You can't function on freebase or coke. You gotta keep having it.

• 2:44:20Joe Rogan?

  I had a buddy of mine who was a longshoreman and he would tell me that this guy he would work with, and not just one guy, but one guy that he was work with, that he was a friend, on his lunch break, get a bag of heroin, shoot it up in his car, sit there for a half an hour and then go back to work.

• 2:44:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:33Joe Rogan?

  Crazy.

• 2:44:34Speaker 02

  You can't do that with freebase. It's non-stop. You gotta keep it. So.

• 2:44:39Joe Rogan?

  Was that your thing, freebasing?

• 2:44:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, freebase, free crack.

• 2:44:42Joe Rogan?

  When was the, how old were you when you first freebased?

• 2:44:44Speaker 02

  Well, I, when I first got high, I was fifteen, you know, pot and I lead, led my way up to the, went coke. Yeah, coke and then.

• 2:44:53Joe Rogan?

  So snorting coke?

• 2:44:55Speaker 02

  I snorted coke probably when I started, when I was eighteen or nineteen, right?

• 2:45:00Joe Rogan?

  And then when he worked crack?

• 2:45:02Speaker 02

  Crack probably twenty-five to twenty-eight.

• 2:45:05Joe Rogan?

  Do you remember the first time you did it?

• 2:45:07Speaker 02

  I think it was with my cousin. Yeah, it was like, I go, this is good.

• 2:45:13Speaker 02

  I mean, I guess, I'll tell you what, I got so many of them. So, my friend.

• 2:45:21Speaker 02

  I was on the road. I came back. He goes, look, I'm gonna buy an eighth of coke. Cut it into five halves, five half grams. Okay. And uh, we'll do two half grams and I'll sell uh, the other three. I know where this is going. Well, we did one or two.

• 2:45:43Speaker 02

  And then he went to sleep.

• 2:45:46Speaker 02

  So, this is fucked up. I find, I found where he hidden. Oh. So. He didn't hide it as good as you hide your money? No. I went in and I would steal one at a time. I drove to the convenience store. I cooked it with ammonia, right? Ammonia? Yeah, clear ammonia. Wait a minute, you actually cooked the coke and turned it into crack? Yeah, with ammonia, yeah. Why is, why would you do that? Is it better that way? Oh, that's how you get freebase crack. You gotta, you gotta process. You could do it with baking soda. You could do it in a boil it in a. Who taught you how to do this? I would. Are you a chemist? No, I was a crack addict. So, but like other crack addicts were like giving you the recipe? No, I learned it.

• 2:46:32Speaker 02

  There's three ways to do it. So I did it with, or the four with ether, which you could blow up your house. So. I would steal a half a gram from them. Uh huh. I would go to the convenience store. I'd cook it, smoke it and pour out the ammonia. I said, I can't do. Well. How do you do it? I, yeah, I don't wanna help. You put it in. It's the internet. Chat G P T will tell you how to make. Ask Chat G P T right now. I'll tell you. How do you take cocaine and turn it into freebase? You cook, you put in a teaspoon and you light it and it turns into a rock. Okay. And then you squeeze it. You squeeze and try to get the ammonia out as much as you can in the rock. So I would pour, I would.

• 2:47:15Speaker 02

  Get the ammonia, steal a half a gram from him.

• 2:47:18Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 2:47:19Speaker 02

  Go to the, bright early in the morning. Come back, cook it, pour the ammonia out. Well, now I was.

• 2:47:28Joe Rogan?

  Chat G P two, the chemistry behind it, how it's made for educational purposes only, not intended to encourage illegal activity.

• 2:47:33Speaker 02

  Baking soda, I said, you could do it.

• 2:47:35Joe Rogan?

  Uh, cocaine hydrochloride powder with baking soda and water, sometimes ammonia is used instead of baking soda, but baking soda is more common for crack. Heat the mixture. As it's heated, the cocaine bases separate from the hydrochloride and form solid rocks that float to the top. Cool and dry. This is like a recipe. Solid pieces, the crack rocks are cooled and hardened, then dried.

• 2:47:57Speaker 02

  So.

• 2:47:58Joe Rogan?

  There you go.

• 2:47:59Speaker 02

  I emptied out the first bottle.

• 2:48:00Joe Rogan?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:48:01Speaker 02

  Then there was two or three more half grams.

• 2:48:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:48:04Speaker 02

  I went and stole another one.

• 2:48:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:48:06Speaker 02

  Went back to the convenience store, bought more ammonia.

• 2:48:09Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:48:10Speaker 02

  After the fourth trip to the convenience store, I go, hey, listen, I got a cleaning business. We need a lot of ammonia. Well, I smoked all his coke.

• 2:48:18Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:48:19Speaker 02

  And I, all of a sudden I hear somebody yell, fuck. He woke up and saw his coke was gone, right?

• 2:48:25Joe Rogan?

  How many hours had passed?

• 2:48:26Speaker 02

  Probably four.

• 2:48:28Joe Rogan?

  How many trips to the convenience store?

• 2:48:29Speaker 02

  Four. And I was just drinking straight vodka, right?

• 2:48:33Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 2:48:34Speaker 02

  And I'm walking home. Now I'm two hundred and fifty dollars in debt.

• 2:48:40Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:48:40Speaker 02

  I have, and it was towards the end of my career, but.

• 2:48:43Joe Rogan?

  As a crack addict?

• 2:48:44Speaker 02

  As a drug addict, crack, yeah.

• 2:48:46Joe Rogan?

  I like how you call it a career.

• 2:48:47Speaker 02

  That was a crack career. Well, I think I told this story years ago, but I'll tell it. And he doesn't care because he told it in his book. So me and Frankie are doing a one nighter. And back then, I had the car. You would pick up an act at the improv and then go do the one nighter in Jersey.

• 2:49:07Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:49:08Speaker 02

  So we pick up this comic, little white guy, whatever. We go do our one nighter and we're supposed to drop him off at the improv. And I go, hold on, I gotta make a stop. And we go up to Spanish Harlem. He goes, what are you doing? I go, my sister lives here, she's not doing well. You know, there's, there's people chasing, there's people chasing people with knives up and down the street. And I go up and buy crack, freebase, right? And the kid's like, get me home, take me back to the improv, what the fuck is going on?

• 2:49:43Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:49:43Speaker 02

  Well, relax. So now we go down to the Lower East Side. And Frankie gets heroin. And the kid, now Frankie's in the backseat tying up, shooting heroin.

• 2:49:55Joe Rogan?

  While you're driving?

• 2:49:56Speaker 02

  Well, I'm driving, he's in the back.

• 2:49:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 2:49:59Speaker 02

  And the kid is fucking scared to death. He was a little white kid.

• 2:50:06Joe Rogan?

  He wanted to be Jerry Seinfeld.

• 2:50:07Speaker 02

  It was David Spade.

• 2:50:09Joe Rogan?

  Was it really? Oh my god, that's hilarious.

• 2:50:13Speaker 02

  A little white kid from Arizona, do you remember when he first started? He tells the story in his book, and I apologized to him, he goes, oh, don't worry, it's a good story. Right? But we kept him hostage. As I'm smoking crack and Frankie's banging dope in the car.

• 2:50:28Joe Rogan?

  I heard an Otto and George story once. He, uh, he's working at a club in, in Jersey, I don't need to name the club. And he leaves the club with the owner's daughter. And they're headed into New York, and there's another guy driving the car. He stops off at Washington Square Park, picks up a bag of crack, and starts smoking it in the car. And the girl freaks out, and the, and he, he says, the classical guy goes, what? I thought the broad wanted a party.

• 2:50:59Speaker 02

  I just, I just did a documentary about him. They interviewed me, they're doing a documentary on Otto and George.

• 2:51:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, we did, uh, a lot of those, uh, shows, those prom shows with Otto and George.

• 2:51:11Speaker 02

  Oh, he was, he would, he was.

• 2:51:13Joe Rogan?

  Genius.

• 2:51:14Speaker 02

  I would, yeah, but I'd drive with him to a gig, and he would go, do you know what George thought of today? What, you fucking psychopath, you're George.

• 2:51:23Joe Rogan?

  He would make people pull over, so he could go check on George, George is in the trunk. He would pull over and check on George. I think there's something to that. I think that that dummy had a mind of its own. And he, it might have been, he had some weird personality disorder where he put a personality to that dummy. But that dummy, when that dummy would say things, you knew it was George.

• 2:51:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:51:47Joe Rogan?

  Like, it didn't even feel like it was Otto. It felt like George had his own thoughts on things.

• 2:51:53Speaker 02

  I worked with ventriloquist once, and I'd go into his room on the road, and he's putting away the dummy's clothes in another dresser drawer than his. He's like putting away the clothes of the dummy.

• 2:52:05Joe Rogan?

  Folding the clothes?

• 2:52:06Speaker 02

  Yes, of his dummy. Here's a bit I kinda wanna do.

• 2:52:12Speaker 02

  You know, back in the day, you know, when there was bank robbers, outlaws, they would wear a handkerchief and go rob a bank. Well, I wanna be the outlaw ventriloquist, where I go up with a little dummy and put a handkerchief this way he can't see my lips move, but I could say I'm the outlaw ventriloquist. And I could do a whole five minutes, and everybody's going, "He must be great. I can't see his lips move."

• 2:52:39Joe Rogan?

  That's good, but you're supposed to talk too. Like, the part of the fun of being a ventriloquist, like, he would say, Otto would say, "I can't believe you're saying that, George."

• 2:52:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:52:48Joe Rogan?

  "How do you, shut the fuck up." The eyebrows would pop up and he'd get crazy, like, it's the banter back and forth.

• 2:52:54Speaker 02

  I'll talk behind the mask. I'm not gonna do it, but it's not gonna work. How come?

• 2:52:58Joe Rogan?

  Terrible idea.

• 2:52:59Speaker 02

  Okay, so I threw it out. Uh, how come there's no ventriloquist on this planet that gets along with their dummies?

• 2:53:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's not even very many ventriloquist acts anymore. There used to be a bunch of ventriloquist acts. There was Willie Tyler and Lester, who was in LA. There was a few.

• 2:53:16Speaker 02

  There was Vince Nantono and George, from Long Island.

• 2:53:19Joe Rogan?

  You know what I think it was? It's like when one guy becomes really big, like Jeff Dunham. He became the man when it came to ventriloquists. And then he's so popular that nobody touches it anymore. Sort of like Carrot Top did that to prop acts.

• 2:53:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:53:32Joe Rogan?

  Like, prop acts used to be, remember when we started out?

• 2:53:34Speaker 02

  The fucking wig. Did you ever work with the wig?

• 2:53:36Joe Rogan?

  Yes, I worked with it. He was great.

• 2:53:37Speaker 02

  Pulled it in fucking diaper, I mean, laundry, uh, basket, shoots with fucking props.

• 2:53:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he had so much shit. Yeah, he had like a whole trunk full of stuff that he would have to carry to the club. But there's, they don't have them anymore because Carrot Top became so famous as a prop act that everybody's like, oh, it's a Carrot Top thing. They just abandoned it. Like musical acts. There's no fucking musical acts anymore.

• 2:54:00Speaker 02

  There's, I, there was, they're on ships. Gary Delano was a musical act.

• 2:54:04Joe Rogan?

  Guys who've been around for a long time. They're legacy acts. There's no upcoming people right now that are musical comedians.

• 2:54:11Speaker 02

  Well, there's no magicians. Ferrantino was a magician. Uh, there was a couple of magic acts. Like when I did one nighters, you worked, there was jugglers. Juggling Jack Swerzy. Uh, a couple of magic acts.

• 2:54:26Joe Rogan?

  There's a few magic acts still that work in California because, because of the comedy magic club.

• 2:54:29Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 2:54:30Joe Rogan?

  Hermosa Beach. But he used to have it where you'd have a magician mixed in with the comedy. Well, last time I worked there, when I started working there, I was like, I'm.

• 2:54:38Speaker 02

  Do you ever remember, uh, Chips Cooney where he did the fake magic act? It was really funny. He would just do stupid stuff.

• 2:54:46Joe Rogan?

  Lenny Schultz was a prop act too. Remember Crazy Lenny?

• 2:54:49Speaker 02

  He just died. Like about a month ago, three weeks ago. More pigs, Lenny. There were, more pigs. And he was just.

• 2:54:56Joe Rogan?

  He was so ridiculous.

• 2:54:57Speaker 02

  He was nuts.

• 2:54:58Joe Rogan?

  He was so funny though.

• 2:54:59Speaker 02

  And the nic- the nicest guy in the world.

• 2:55:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I remember he had a, he pulled out like a Smokey the Bear doll and he's like, only you can prevent forest fires. He was, shut the fuck up. And he punched the bear. It was so ridiculous. And then he'd move on to something else like it never happened. It's like, it was what?

• 2:55:14Speaker 02

  He would kill. Kill. And it made no sense.

• 2:55:18Joe Rogan?

  No sense.

• 2:55:18Speaker 02

  No sense.

• 2:55:19Joe Rogan?

  It was just maniacal. It was just crazy with crazy face and crazy eyes. But it was really funny.

• 2:55:24Speaker 02

  Like Carrot Top is a good prop act. If you like prop acts, he's the best prop act.

• 2:55:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:55:31Speaker 02

  I mean, Rip Taylor didn't like him, but you know, Rip Taylor's from how many fucking years ago?

• 2:55:37Joe Rogan?

  Rip Taylor?

• 2:55:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, remember the gay?

• 2:55:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, with the mustache?

• 2:55:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, and throw this, he had the glitter and stuff.

• 2:55:43Joe Rogan?

  He didn't like Carrot Top?

• 2:55:44Speaker 02

  Cause Carrot Top was getting real famous at the time. And Rip Taylor was, yeah, was the, uh, the prop act.

• 2:55:51Joe Rogan?

  But it's like, most comics today are just comics. They're just, they just do stand up. There's very little, like, all the variety stuff is gone.

• 2:55:58Speaker 02

  Well, Frankie Pace was a prop act and he killed.

• 2:56:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he killed.

• 2:56:02Speaker 02

  Killed. Uh, you're right. There was.

• 2:56:06Speaker 02

  It's, there was more variety in the one nighters in the clubs.

• 2:56:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:56:11Speaker 02

  Then there is just like.

• 2:56:12Joe Rogan?

  Well, in the eighties, comedy was anything. It could, there was no definition of it back then. Like, guys had like, pieces of paper they'd bring on stage and hold up signs. There was all kinds of weird shit. And now, it's just people talking.

• 2:56:24Speaker 02

  Oh, the guy from, uh, Boston, I work with him. He was so angry. We did a one nighter. He said, fuck this at a pool hall. Bob something, batch, uh, he had paper signs he would pull up and do a thing on signs or whatever. He was just from Boston, uh.

• 2:56:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, there was the guy from the Blue Collar Tour, Bill Engvall.

• 2:56:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:56:46Joe Rogan?

  Right? He had signs.

• 2:56:47Speaker 02

  Did he?

• 2:56:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:56:48Speaker 02

  None of them said quit?

• 2:56:49Joe Rogan?

  Ahhhhh.

• 2:56:52Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:56:56Speaker 02

  What, I, uh, what do you call it? What's his name? Kills on stage, uh, Josh Adam Myers?

• 2:57:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:57:05Speaker 02

  He does, kills.

• 2:57:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, he does that, uh, goddamn comedy jam.

• 2:57:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:57:09Joe Rogan?

  Where he does music too, but that's a little different.

• 2:57:11Speaker 02

  But we had him on our show, Would You Bang Him? We, me and Bonnie do the show. It's fucking, you know the show we do?

• 2:57:17Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:57:18Speaker 02

  We, what we do is Bonnie and I host it. And we have like, five comics and they do like, eight or 10 minutes apiece. Then we have three female judges and a gay, and a gay judge. And after the set, they discuss whether they would fuck him or not.

• 2:57:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, interesting.

• 2:57:37Speaker 02

  And the gay judge is always the funniest. He's always the funniest. But some, some of these female judges are just so funny, you know? Uh, so he came out, we did it a couple, uh, we do it at a lot of festivals and we did it at, in New York. And Josh Adam Myers came out and he sang the whole time, just fucking.

• 2:57:58Speaker 02

  All over the stage, I'm going, he's gotta close every show in a comedy club because nobody's following that.

• 2:58:04Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 2:58:05Speaker 02

  There's no way at the Cellar that you're gonna go up after that, you know. Uh, and I'm not, what he does is great. What he does is, you know.

• 2:58:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, if you were on the road and you had a middle act and the middle act was brought to you by the club, like they assigned a middle act and the middle act was doing music, you were fucked. You were fucked.

• 2:58:24Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Okay. Fucking guitar act. I worked Vegas once following a guy with a guitar and I had him, and he's fucking closing with Springsteen and a bandana on his head. I'm going, what the fuck?

• 2:58:38Joe Rogan?

  It's a totally different thing.

• 2:58:39Speaker 02

  You know.

• 2:58:40Joe Rogan?

  But it's weird that that's not more popular because he used to be so effective. That's what I'm saying. It's like, why isn't there more of those acts like that out there? Because it was so effective.

• 2:58:49Speaker 02

  Well, some of them got older and went to cruise ships that do guitar.

• 2:58:53Joe Rogan?

  I know, but why didn't the younger ones? Why, why didn't, how come no younger ones emerged? That's what's weird.

• 2:58:57Speaker 02

  It is kinda weird. No impressionist either.

• 2:59:01Joe Rogan?

  Very few.

• 2:59:01Speaker 02

  That do impressions.

• 2:59:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, very few.

• 2:59:04Speaker 02

  And everyone that, they would turn around, fix their hair and then do their impression. They always turned around.

• 2:59:09Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right. Imagine if Jack Nicholson.

• 2:59:14Speaker 02

  I, I'd be scared to turn around and the audience left. Uh, but they turn around. There was so many of, Jeff DeHart, he did Rod Sterling perfectly.

• 2:59:24Joe Rogan?

  It is interesting. There's not a lot of just impressionists, right?

• 2:59:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, Danny Stone, Randy Credico, who was, uh, very lefty.

• 2:59:36Joe Rogan?

  Frank Caliendo does.

• 2:59:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, but he-

• 2:59:38Joe Rogan?

  He's like the only one.

• 2:59:39Speaker 02

  You don't really see him in, I don't know if he's still in clubs. He does a lot, uh-

• 2:59:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think he does theaters mostly.

• 2:59:46Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, he was on the Virus Tour, on the Opian Anthony Tour.

• 2:59:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I did it with him. Yeah.

• 2:59:52Speaker 02

  Oh, you did the Virus Tour?

• 2:59:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I did one of them.

• 2:59:54Speaker 02

  I hosted every show.

• 2:59:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I did one of them in Vegas.

• 2:59:57Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Vegas one.

• 2:59:58Joe Rogan?

  That was like the last time I saw Patrice.

• 3:00:01Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 3:00:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:00:02Speaker 02

  We're doing the benefit, uh, we do it, I host it every year and Billy closes it. We're doing it, uh, I think in May this year.

• 3:00:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah?

• 3:00:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:00:11Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so it's next month. Do you know the dates?

• 3:00:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll tell you right now.

• 3:00:14Joe Rogan?

  Tell everybody so they can go buy tickets. Bust out those glasses, grandpa.

• 3:00:18Speaker 02

  These are, first, these are Dollar Store glasses, okay?

• 3:00:21Joe Rogan?

  Why do you buy them at the Dollar Store?

• 3:00:23Speaker 02

  Cause my good ones are at the hotel. I, I don't wanna lose them.

• 3:00:25Joe Rogan?

  You don't wanna waste them.

• 3:00:26Speaker 02

  I don't wanna lose them, yeah, I mean. I would've worn them to go on Theo's podcast.

• 3:00:32Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, I'm looking at your face when you turn sideways so I could see how much magnification you got? What are those? How many, how many X you got?

• 3:00:39Speaker 02

  Two fifty.

• 3:00:40Joe Rogan?

  That's it?

• 3:00:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:00:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay. It looks like I'm seeing a double the size of your fucking, look like you got stung by a bee.

• 3:00:47Speaker 02

  Listen to me, listen.

• 3:00:52Speaker 02

  Listen to me, you fuck.

• 3:00:54Joe Rogan?

  So, it's already sold out, so people can't buy tickets?

• 3:00:57Speaker 02

  I'm sure, it sells out every year.

• 3:00:59Joe Rogan?

  It is beautiful that you guys do that every year. The Patrice benefit.

• 3:01:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:01:03Joe Rogan?

  It's very cool. You talk about a guy that like, touched so many people, cause he was so brilliant.

• 3:01:07Speaker 02

  Why, how could it be on a Sunday? The Patrice, it says May eighteenth in my calendar. Maybe cause Billy's doing, uh, Twelve Angry Men, he's playing every fucking character. Uh, no, he's in, Gary Glenn Ross.

• 3:01:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, is he?

• 3:01:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and, yeah, him and.

• 3:01:25Joe Rogan?

  Is he coffee for closers? Is he that guy?

• 3:01:27Speaker 02

  I don't know, please. Go see it, I'd rather fucking walk through Lebanon wearing, wearing a fucking yarmulke to go see that fucking angry hack.

• 3:01:40Speaker 02

  Fuck off, Billy, shut the fuck up. Send me your stupid pro Palestinian bullshit, shut up.

• 3:01:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, does he have a lot of pro Palestinian stuff?

• 3:01:47Speaker 02

  We fight all the time online. Well, we, on text.

• 3:01:51Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 3:01:51Speaker 02

  We go back and forth.

• 3:01:52Joe Rogan?

  You go, you and Bill Burr go back and forth about Palestine, for real?

• 3:01:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, sometimes, yeah.

• 3:01:56Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 3:01:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. But I'm, you know, look, I'm friends with him for years.

• 3:02:00Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 3:02:01Speaker 02

  I mean, forever, you know? Fucking Billy, you know, fucking.

• 3:02:05Joe Rogan?

  When comedians get political, and it's the point where they, they distance themselves with people that don't agree with them, that to me is hilarious. Hilarious in how stupid it is. Like, what are you doing?

• 3:02:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:02:17Joe Rogan?

  What, what are you doing? Like, this is, this is where you're gonna fucking draw the line on some shit that barely affects your personal life?

• 3:02:24Speaker 02

  I've, I've not.

• 3:02:28Speaker 02

  Any of my friends that are like that, I'm still friends with them. I don't agree with a lot of the shit and they're stupid.

• 3:02:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:02:35Speaker 02

  You know, I mean, there's one or two people I think are, say really vile stuff and I just mute them. I don't deal with them. You know, they're not friend friends.

• 3:02:46Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:02:46Speaker 02

  You know, I mean shit, me and Norton don't agree on everything, you know.

• 3:02:51Joe Rogan?

  How can you?

• 3:02:52Speaker 02

  I mean, his fucking-

• 3:02:53Joe Rogan?

  How can you agree on everything?

• 3:02:54Speaker 02

  His wife is so much hotter than my wife.

• 3:02:56Joe Rogan?

  Ah, she's got a better dick.

• 3:02:59Speaker 02

  She was the best man at his wedding.

• 3:03:05Speaker 02

  Fucking Norton is so quick and funny. It's, he was the best man at my wedding. He's so fucking funny.

• 3:03:12Joe Rogan?

  He's great on Kill Tony. Oh my god, he's one of the best guests.

• 3:03:16Speaker 02

  I mean, uh, you know who else is fucking, Colin is so funny. He's so quick.

• 3:03:22Joe Rogan?

  Colin's amazing. He's, there's a bunch of guys, and I think I put you in there too, that just never really promoted themselves on social media. So it's like, you're really good, but like even Etelle, like Etelle, for the level of comedy that he is, he should be selling out stadiums every night. But he just doesn't promote himself at all. All he does is just like, all of his following is just word of mouth.

• 3:03:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:03:47Joe Rogan?

  And other comics saying how great he is and like people who have seen him before, they've come to see him again.

• 3:03:52Speaker 02

  Well, he's so, one of my videos now is up to, up to almost five million views. Is that good?

• 3:03:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's good.

• 3:03:59Speaker 02

  That's good. It's really funny.

• 3:04:01Joe Rogan?

  I believe it. I believe you're funny.

• 3:04:03Speaker 02

  If you want to play it, I will.

• 3:04:04Joe Rogan?

  No, we don't have to do that. Let's wrap this up. Um, so you're gonna be at the mothership. What, what are the dates again? June what?

• 3:04:11Speaker 02

  Uh, June, I think twenty seven, twenty eighth and twenty, I do it every week on my birthday.

• 3:04:16Joe Rogan?

  Take pictures of you with your shirt off. It's gonna be, so prepare for that. Get ready.

• 3:04:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:04:22Joe Rogan?

  Get yourself in shape. Tomorrow I'm gonna bring you to Waste Well. Get you on the peptides and-

• 3:04:27Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 3:04:28Joe Rogan?

  Get your blood work and find out what the fuck's going on with your shoulders. Shoot you up with stem cells.

• 3:04:32Speaker 02

  I do have a special on Amazon called Rich Force Anonymous. It's pretty funny.

• 3:04:38Joe Rogan?

  Why is it called Anonymous?

• 3:04:39Speaker 02

  Cause I taped it at an NA convention.

• 3:04:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's hilarious.

• 3:04:42Speaker 02

  And the backdrop, Bonnie directed the beginning, the backdrop is fucking so cool.

• 3:04:47Joe Rogan?

  There it is. Look at you.

• 3:04:49Speaker 02

  It's Ross Anonymous.

• 3:04:50Joe Rogan?

  You look good there.

• 3:04:50Speaker 02

  Where's the trailer?

• 3:04:51Joe Rogan?

  Dangerous man. You look dangerous.

• 3:04:53Speaker 02

  Can you play the trailer?

• 3:04:54Joe Rogan?

  No, we're not gonna play a trailer.

• 3:04:55Speaker 02

  Okay, good.

• 3:04:56Joe Rogan?

  We're gonna leave. Okay. We're gonna wrap this up. Nope, we don't need to play a trailer.

• 3:05:00Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 3:05:00Joe Rogan?

  You're funny.

• 3:05:00Speaker 02

  I was doing it for you.

• 3:05:02Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 3:05:02Speaker 02

  I don't care about me.

• 3:05:03Joe Rogan?

  For you, I'm gonna not do it. It's better.

• 3:05:11Speaker 02

  This, uh, I've done this podcast three times and this is the most fun I had.

• 3:05:17Joe Rogan?

  It was fun.

• 3:05:17Speaker 02

  It was fun.

• 3:05:18Joe Rogan?

  We had a good time.

• 3:05:18Speaker 02

  I, I, I had a good time.

• 3:05:20Joe Rogan?

  Um, come to the club tomorrow too, hang out. You got any sets tomorrow?

• 3:05:24Speaker 02

  No.

• 3:05:24Joe Rogan?

  Alright, come to the club. Do Bottom of the Barrel too.

• 3:05:26Speaker 02

  What's that?

• 3:05:27Joe Rogan?

  There's a whiskey barrel on stage with notes in it from the audience, you pull them out and you just riff.

• 3:05:32Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 3:05:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you love it. It's so much fun. It's like a premise factory.

• 3:05:35Speaker 02

  So what am I gonna do about this thing tomorrow?

• 3:05:38Joe Rogan?

  As soon as we wrap, I'll, I'll set it up as soon as we get done here.

• 3:05:41Speaker 02

  This was fun. Thank you for having me.

• 3:05:43Joe Rogan?

  Rich Ross, ladies and gentlemen. Bye, everybody.