How To Experience Deep Inner Peace w/ Gurudev Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

I think the number one thing most people TRULY want is MORE LOVE and LESS STRESS… but the burning question remains: How do you actually make it happen? Get ready to meet my exceptional guest this week, the remarkable GURUDEV SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR. I've been a fan and follower of his work for a long time, and I'm genuinely thrilled to have him on the show. Gurudev is a true champion of humanity, a spiritual leader, and a peace ambassador. Through his incredible organizations, he has touched the lives of an astounding 500 MILLION people in over 180 countries. His messages couldn't be more timely as he empowers and transforms individuals to tackle personal, local, and global challenges. Our conversation is an absolute rollercoaster, covering an array of mind-blowing topics, including: The role of DOUBT and how it impacts our lives How to let go of things that no longer serve you and break free from unnecessary baggage Gurudev's insights from negotiating peace in global conflicts How the power of MEDITATION and BREATHING can reshape your daily existence How to cultivate and nurture your identity How to unlocking your hidden potential How to find CLARITY How to have more JOY in life Peering into the mysteries that lie beyond this life's horizon A thought-provoking discussion on the potential of PSYCHEDELICS Let me tell you, Gurudev is one of the most awe-inspiring individuals I've ever encountered. As you listen closely, get ready to discover powerful insights that will guide you towards greater PEACE and BLISS in your own life. These are the answers we all need in times like these—a compass that will help us navigate the stormy seas and find the serenity we seek. So, join me in this incredible episode and get ready to be transformed! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ed Mylett?

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• 1:31Ed Mylett?

  This is the Ed Mileage Show. Welcome back to the show, everybody. I'm so honored to have this beautiful being sitting across from me here today. I've been a fan of his work for a long time. It's made a big impact in my life.

• 1:46Ed Mylett?

  I guess the best way to describe him is he's a spiritual leader. He's an ambassador of peace in the world. He's a yoga guru, but he's also just a man who spreads love and bliss and joy throughout the world and gives people the tools of how to live their lives better, including mine. So Guru Dev, Sri Sri, Ravi Shankar, welcome to the show finally. Great to have you here.

• 2:08Speaker 02

  Thank you, Ed, for having me.

• 2:10Ed Mylett?

  So good. You only flew 18 hours from Dubai to do this with me today. So that's all, everybody. So we're gonna make this as magical as we possibly can. All right, I have so many things I want to ask you. We really need five hours, but we only have about an hour. So first things first, I want to ask you about, you said something so fascinating to me about doubt. I want to ask you about this first. You said, "We really don't, we only doubt positive things. We don't doubt negative things." And man, I really started to ponder that. I meditated about it and it's very true. So I want you to start out today, just elaborate on that concept about doubt.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. You see, when someone tells you, "I love you a lot," you say, "You'll ask them, 'Really?'" You go, "Really?" Right? And similarly, you know, we doubt our happiness. When you say, "Are you happy?" Well, "I'm not sure," is what the normal response we hear.

• 3:02Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  But that's not the same thing when it comes to negative feelings. When you are depressed, you never say, "Well, I'm not sure if I'm..." You're so sure about your depression. You're so sure about your anger, right?

• 3:18Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 3:19Speaker 02

  You say, "I'm mad at somebody." You never doubt a madness with someone, right?

• 3:23Ed Mylett?

  Why is that, do you think?

• 3:25Speaker 02

  That's how it is.

• 3:27Ed Mylett?

  Do you think it's our nature?

• 3:28Speaker 02

  It's the nature, right?

• 3:29Ed Mylett?

  Do you think our nature...

• 3:30Speaker 02

  So that's why we doubt the honesty of a person. We never doubt the dishonesty of a person.

• 3:35Ed Mylett?

  Gosh, that's true. When you believe somebody's dishonest, you know, your intuition tells you, "I know they're dishonest." But when they are honest, we still wonder or doubt whether they're honest with us. Is that because our nature is to resist... Because I don't really believe this intuitively either. So is our nature to resist a blissful or happy state, or is it just a higher threshold?

• 3:57Speaker 02

  No, this is the nature of doubt is such.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  The opposite of doubt is wonder.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  You know. The wonder always has a joy with it.

• 4:12Ed Mylett?

  You're right. Curious, you don't, children have more wonder and curiosity, don't they?

• 4:16Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 4:17Ed Mylett?

  And that's why they have more bliss in their life. Why do you think? More people who have achieved external success in their life? Aren't internally happier?

• 4:30Speaker 02

  You know, um, when you have put your hundred percent out there. That brings some sort of relief in you. Then that helps you to repose in yourself. Unless and until we repose in ourselves, we can't find inner peace or happiness.

• 4:49Speaker 02

  So the key is to repose. To repose, you should have the satisfaction, yeah, I did hundred percent. Suppose you're on a running race and you put your hundred percent.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  Then that, that frees you, you know, someone has done better than you. It doesn't bother you, but you have done your hundred percent, right?

• 5:09Ed Mylett?

  I'm surprised to hear a spiritual guru say that. That it's good to empty the tank and to give a hundred percent of something because you do teach that. It's, you don't believe in just laying around and meditating a hundred hours a day and that somehow everything's going to be great in your life.

• 5:23Speaker 02

  See, meditation is, is a tool for dynamism.

• 5:30Ed Mylett?

  What's that mean?

• 5:31Speaker 02

  That is, see, you meditate, you recuperate, you find the energy in you. But what do you do with the energy when you don't want to act?

• 5:40Speaker 02

  It's like you go to the bank, you take the money out and if you don't want to spare it, what is the point in having money in the bank?

• 5:47Ed Mylett?

  That's really awesome to hear because, um, prayer's always been a part of my life. But meditation is a newer part of my life. And I have found this renewed enthusiasm and energy in my life and clarity also.

• 6:03Ed Mylett?

  That I didn't have before. And I have to tell you that I've achieved more and more external, whatever you want to call it, as I've given myself the gift of a little bit more emptying of my mind every single day. I started to do yoga, which will really surprise my audience. I'm doing a lot more yoga. I'm actually going to a yoga retreat the end of May, and it's made a huge difference in my life as well. Now, the other side of the coin that you talk a lot about, that's interesting to me, as you say, the reason why people don't always get what they desire is that potentially they hold on to it too long, meaning they hold on to what they want too long. What do you mean by that?

• 6:42Speaker 02

  No, actually, what I meant is, you really don't realize your potential.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  So when you realize you have the potential and you have the right intent, the intention

• 7:02Speaker 02

  starts to manifest. But if your intention is clogged with doubts and uncertainty about yourself, whether you will be able to do it or not, then you find it hard to get what you really wanted.

• 7:18Ed Mylett?

  Do you think that you can hold on to the thing you want so hard that you almost surrender the energy from it? Meaning, there's a nuance, I think, in life between having a goal, but also separating from the outcome all the time as you're in the process of achieving it. Does that make sense? In other words, there's a interesting nuance of being very goal oriented, something I want very badly. But sometimes I think when we hold on to the outcome too hard and too firmly.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  It just burns you out.

• 7:46Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  It just burns you out and it weakens you in many sense. It drains your energy. So what if nature wants to do something bigger for you? Why don't you believe that? You know, the higher self, the higher power wants to give you something much bigger. And your goal is something much smaller.

• 8:10Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 8:11Speaker 02

  And you're struggling with it. So I always say, when you have a goal, you should have a clause to it. This or something better than this.

• 8:18Ed Mylett?

  That's really, I've not, see, I've been doing this, I'm 52 years old. I've never heard that in my life. And it's really true, because what most people do is they have a goal or something smaller than it. The idea that it could be bigger, and by the way, in my life, God's delivered to me so many dreams and so many achievements in my life and experiences that I never dreamed that are bigger and more beautiful and more magnificent.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  Absolutely. You know, God knows better than what you know about yourself, right? You have the ability to achieve something more. That's why whenever someone claims their success, I find it, it's a sort of ignorance. Because you claim success because you think you have only that much potential.

• 8:59Ed Mylett?

  Wow. Now, you've been to some of the most dangerous places in the world, right? You've been to war zones.

• 9:08Ed Mylett?

  You know, and you've tried to negotiate peace in some of the most unsettled places in the world. Can you tell me about some of those experiences that you took away when you were there? And what do you do when you sit down with two leaders that they literally would like to kill one another or kill one another's people? I mean, that's the most extreme, chaotic, lack of peace environment. And you've tried to negotiate peace in those places. What can you tell us about that?

• 9:34Speaker 02

  One was in Colombia, you know, with the far 52-year-old war. And then, you know, in the first place, they didn't want to even meet with me.

• 9:46Ed Mylett?

  They didn't?

• 9:47Speaker 02

  They didn't want to. They said, you know, our God is Karl Marx and we only believe in communism. We don't want to meet with anybody. We don't believe in any spiritual thing. So then I was giving a talk in University of Havana. So they came there, they sent some of their feelers. Check out, check me out.

• 10:14Ed Mylett?

  Really?

• 10:16Speaker 02

  And then they found I'm an interesting person. So they, then they were ready to meet with me. So when I met with them, their hope was that I would help them to change the mind of Colombian government.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  And give them an international support, hearing for them. So I said, yes, I understand your predicament. You are not having fun in the jungle. You are fighting for a cause. Your cause is to bring social justice to people. I said, I am for it. But the path you have chosen of violence, I don't approve of.

• 10:57Speaker 02

  Then I spoke to them. I do understand them very well. But they need to stop violence, eschew violence. And then come to talks in peace. And then I meditated with them. They did meditation with me.

• 11:14Ed Mylett?

  They meditated with you?

• 11:16Speaker 02

  Yes. The next three days, I spent with them every day, talking and meditating with them. And the last day, you know, they came on their own to the press conference.

• 11:26Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  And they said, from today, we adopt the Gandhian principle of non-violence.

• 11:33Ed Mylett?

  What? What?

• 11:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. When I mentioned this, neither the press nor the government were ready to believe. They said they're just buying time and this are their gimmicks. I tell them, please give them a benefit of doubt.

• 11:47Ed Mylett?

  The benefit of the doubt, which is what we started with. You know, it's interesting.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Then afterwards, after that, you know, for a month, it went on. Then they agreed for a peace process and the peace process happened. Then most interesting thing was, we brought the victims. I flew the victims from, you know, from Colombia to Havana, to Cuba. The victims came in front of them and they asked forgiveness with them.

• 12:19Ed Mylett?

  Oh my gosh.

• 12:20Speaker 02

  See, yes, we have caused so much pain to your family. And, you know, they had killed many soldiers and the families of soldiers came and there was tears. And there was not one dry eye in that place.

• 12:34Ed Mylett?

  How beautiful.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  And then they went on to do this process with many cities. There are, you know, twenty million people have been affected by the war.

• 12:46Ed Mylett?

  Crazy.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  And, you know, they asked for forgiveness.

• 12:50Ed Mylett?

  That is so beautiful.

• 12:51Speaker 02

  That that shows their, you know, magnanimity.

• 12:55Ed Mylett?

  Well, I think it also shows that.

• 12:59Ed Mylett?

  For human beings, that's the most extreme case of

• 13:02Speaker 02

  headache.

• 13:03Ed Mylett?

  Lack of peace, or they're murdering one another. They're killing each other's children, right? You take that back all the way to a human being who's got strife with their spouse, or they're not talking to their mother or father anymore. Or maybe they have self hatred. Maybe there's an internal battle in most people. And by the way, I think there's an internal battle in a lot of people today.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 13:25Ed Mylett?

  And in our country, it's red states against blue states and, you know, Democrats against Republicans. And fortunately for us, it hasn't gotten nearly as violent yet as it has in some of these other places. But one of the reasons I do my show, obviously, I want to give people the tools to improve their lives and achieve more things. But one of the main reasons I do it is I want people to experience more bliss and more peace in their life. And it's why I've wanted you here so badly for so long.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  That's exactly what we do.

• 13:55Ed Mylett?

  I know.

• 13:56Speaker 02

  We have these small capsule programs for sky breathing techniques. And when they practice it, they find themselves in a completely different space. They're able to shed the anger and frustration feel, you know, get connected with one's own inner state, inner peace.

• 14:16Ed Mylett?

  Through breathing.

• 14:18Ed Mylett?

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• 16:22Ed Mylett?

  You also have a book out coming out called Notes for the Journey Within. Let's let's because that's really the journey I'm on right now. And my audience knows it. I'm on this journey within I've. I think a lot of people master the external game of their life. They get pretty good at achieving different things, but the internal game is a different thing altogether. And so let's talk about that for a minute because you used meditation as a tool with with these leaders and part of meditation connected to meditation to me is breathing, right? Is some yoga practices. What would you tell the average person listening to this is like, I don't know about this meditation thing. I can't quiet my mind and, you know, breathing, really, you know, I'm going to start

• 17:06Ed Mylett?

  breathing better and that's going to change my because by the way, breath work has absolutely transformed my life. And for me, I must tell you, one of the main reasons your teachings have helped me is. I'm sure it's the breathing itself, but it's actually the time I've taken just to be with my body and to be with myself and to just pay more attention to me and my breathing and getting quiet has caused me to be much more, I think I'd call it self-aware and intentional about different things. So what would you tell people? Because meditation is this broad topic and breathing. What would you share with us?

• 17:43Speaker 02

  You know, I would call it as a process of mental hygiene.

• 17:48Ed Mylett?

  Mental hygiene?

• 17:50Speaker 02

  Like dental hygiene, it's a mental hygiene. You know, we get so stressed and neither at home nor in school, we learn what to do when we are upset, when our moods are bad, when we are in rage, when we are restless. Nobody has taught us how to manage our mind and to manage the mind directly is almost impossible. And breath is the leak. For every rhythm in the breath, there is a connection to our emotion and our state of mind. So breathing in certain patterns, certain ways can help us to come out of the despondency we feel with our own moods.

• 18:34Ed Mylett?

  Really good. What I've noticed when I'm not in control of my breathing and anger rises in me, and they've been proven this too, that there's a lack of heart and brain coherence that happens at one time, and you actually give yourself a kind of a form of a lobotomy. When you're very angry and your breathing isn't being regulated, you're not paying attention to it, you actually give yourself a lobotomy. You don't process information as well. You don't make good decisions, correct? And that's what you mean by this hygiene. It's cleaning the system to some extent.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  Correct, correct, correct. And the breathing and meditation brings clarity in mind and focus in our awareness, you know, in our attention span. Today, what we see is a lack of attention span in colleges and schools. Our attention span is reducing day by day. Breathing and meditation help us to get over this attention deficiency syndrome. And there is more intuitive ability that comes up within you. You become more creative. And this is what you want, you know, whether you are in business or in academics. All that you need is an intuitive ability, force from within.

• 19:49Ed Mylett?

  This is why you're brilliant. Let me tell you, I want to elaborate on that. Can I add to what you just said and acknowledge it? So what my breathing and my meditation work has done for me is my attention span has increased. And what I noticed with me was odd, like my paying attention to things that were always there that I didn't. And this may sound really corny, but it led to business success. So let me tell you. As I started to do more breath work and more meditation work, my ability to pay attention longer has increased tremendously. And I didn't realize how quickly in a day I go, oh, let me check my phone again. Oh, let me see this. Let me turn the TV on. Let me. I didn't realize at fifty two years old, how much my attention span had shrunk.

• 20:33Ed Mylett?

  And it sounds funny, but I started to notice, this sounds funny, everybody, but listen to me. I started to notice like wrinkles on my hand that weren't there before. Paying attention to my hand, I've seen things that were there all the time, certain trees in my backyard that have been there the entire time I lived there, that I have never seen or recognized before. I've noticed the beauty in these trees. I noticed there's a part of my yard where I didn't even know it, where there's a hill that's in there. I thought it was flat. I noticed these little things. You think, well, what does that matter? I don't know, but it gave me a lot of peace and joy. And then when I'm in business meetings, now I'm noticing emotions on people and facial expressions and tonality that I wasn't paying attention to.

• 21:18Ed Mylett?

  That's made me a better speaker, a better businessman, but that goes all the way back to breath work and meditation. These little symptoms showed up of trees and flowers and a breeze that have led to better decision making.

• 21:30Speaker 02

  Yes, Ed, you're absolutely right. You know, the first thing that it does is it improves your perception, observation and expression. You'll be able to express yourself much better, much clearer to people. That's one thing. I mean, the communication breakdown today in the world is because of this. Lack of expression and lack of understanding of others. These, all these benefits happen. There are hundred benefits, you know.

• 21:59Ed Mylett?

  There are.

• 22:00Speaker 02

  Established evidence based benefits on this.

• 22:03Ed Mylett?

  Can you imagine if every world leader of every significant country meditated thirty minutes?

• 22:08Speaker 02

  Oh, it will have a wonderful.

• 22:10Ed Mylett?

  Can you imagine? Let me ask you this. What do we get wrong about meditation? Is there something that culture gets wrong about it? That they don't understand that's a mistaken belief system about it?

• 22:23Speaker 02

  I don't think any religion or any faith based organization opposes meditation. Meditation is getting connected to yourself that makes your prayers deeper. You know, I have a comparison with prayer and meditation. Prayer is like, God, give me this, give me that. Meditation is, oh, here I am, ready to listen to you. What do you have to say to me?

• 22:47Ed Mylett?

  So good. Do you know that my dreams have become more vivid and clear also at night? I just want everybody to hear this, and I'm telling you, this isn't foofy stuff. I mean, it's foofy stuff, but it's also business stuff. It's life stuff. What you just said about your ability to express yourself and to communicate. Now, since you use the word self, let's go pretty deep here, because there's other stuff I want to ask you. So you said self.

• 23:13Ed Mylett?

  What is self? I've heard you say you are not your body. You are not even your thoughts or your mind. So who am I? What is self then? If I'm not my thoughts, I'm not my mind, and I'm not my body. What and who are we?

• 23:32Speaker 02

  We cannot say I'm just my body. I'm not just my thoughts. I'm not just my emotions. You cannot say I'm not the body, but you can say I'm not just my body.

• 23:42Ed Mylett?

  Not just, okay.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  I'm much more than the body, because body is changing, but there's something in me is not changing. Our thoughts are changing, emotions are changing. There is one aspect in you that is a reference point of all changes. Without that, you can't even notice changes. Right?

• 24:00Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  You can't say I have changed unless there is somebody inside who has not changed.

• 24:08Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, right, right.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 24:10Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  So change can only be noticed with a reference which is non-change.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  And this non-changing aspect inside of you that doesn't die, that doesn't, you know, age and that's source of all energy is not an entity, but it is a field, it's an energy. And with this reference in life, our other activities, our emotions, our dealings, everything gets a good foothold. They become very stable. You know, the glimpse of your non-changing entity or aspect inside of you can make your life so much more stable

• 25:02Speaker 02

  and powerful and focused and, you know, can give impotence to your activity or dynamism.

• 25:12Ed Mylett?

  Do you think that that's why I've, I want to ask you this because this is recent work for me. Like, call it a year that I've been doing. I've noticed that things that used to make me very worried or very angry or give me great anxiety or trepidation.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  Doesn't do anymore.

• 25:33Ed Mylett?

  It doesn't do it anymore. Or at least it does it a lot less. Is that a product of this?

• 25:40Speaker 02

  Absolutely, absolutely.

• 25:43Ed Mylett?

  Do you have that?

• 25:43Speaker 02

  You're right on the dot, yes. You may get upset even now, but that doesn't stay too long.

• 25:50Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 25:51Speaker 02

  Even you may get angry, you know, you may shout something, but you know, it doesn't just touch you, it doesn't sink into you so much. So there is a part of you which remains very blissful, calm, steady and, you know, serene.

• 26:08Ed Mylett?

  You're right. My faith has always given me a great deal of comfort. I'm a Christian. It's always given me a great deal of comfort and perspective. But my breath work and my meditation work has given me a

• 26:24Ed Mylett?

  Perspective and calmness that shocks me. Because what you said about me, I've always thought, you know what, I run a little hot. I'll, you know, I'm just a wound up guy, you know, and. And I've found that actually I don't think that's me. I, I think that that was a program I was running. For years that I almost became addicted to these emotions of frustration and anxiety and worry and a little. Sprinkling a little anger from time to time. That was kind of my cocktail of. My emotions and I find lately it's more like gratitude and bliss and peace and. Perspective. It's changed.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Oh, you're right. You know, this is what even, you know. What Jesus said, the kingdom of God is within you. Unless you. Become like a child from within, you know, getting into that space of innocence within you. You can't get to the kingdom of my father.

• 27:26Ed Mylett?

  Do you do anything to center yourself? So you flew 18 hours last night. At least plus the drive, plus this, plus that, plus it's LA. You're driving to me today. Anything you do before an interview like this, or a moment like this, or a day? That helps center you? Is there something specific that you do?

• 27:42Speaker 02

  No, I don't do anything anymore.

• 27:45Ed Mylett?

  Honestly?

• 27:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:46Ed Mylett?

  It's just your state of being now.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  Yes. You know, when you keep doing something for some time and then it becomes. Very obvious in your nature and you don't need to do anymore.

• 27:58Ed Mylett?

  You. But you do believe in karma. And your definition of karma is something I had not heard before also. I thought karma was like, I do something bad, it's going to come back around and get me. I do something good, it's going to come back around and bless me. But you, you, I want to, I don't give it away, but you define karma as what?

• 28:19Speaker 02

  See karma is the impression in the mind.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  Karma has three connotations. One is it's the impressions. And then it is the tendencies and it is the fruit of the action that you have already executed. So, action is also called karma.

• 28:40Ed Mylett?

  Action is karma. That was the difference for me. What do you mean when you say that? Because that was the difference, that action is karma.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  There is a term called karma yogi. Means you are putting your hundred percent and not worried about the result. That is karma yogi. And your action is an expression of joy rather than expecting joy out of the action.

• 29:05Ed Mylett?

  Wow. Can you say that again? Say that again.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  See, usually you are doing a work to get joy from that.

• 29:12Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  Instead of joy as a product of action. Now here joy as an instrument of action.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  You are happy and so you do it. You know?

• 29:28Ed Mylett?

  Those are the people that I remember in my life. You know, those are the people that, the reason why you say it again, the people that I have recollections of. That made impressions on me. They are joyful in their actions. Not trying to get joy from the result of their actions.

• 29:45Speaker 02

  No, you put your hundred percent and then your action is out of joy.

• 29:50Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, I think about watching Michael Jordan dunk a basketball with his tongue out, you know, and he's about to dunk. He's just in such bliss as he was doing what he did.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 29:59Ed Mylett?

  Or a great artist playing a song and they're just lost in it, right? Or a speaker on the stage or an incredible school teacher teaching a lesson. Or a mother with their baby.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, you love what you're doing.

• 30:11Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  And you're not expecting some result out of it. Even if you accept, expect, that doesn't matter, but it's an expression of joy.

• 30:20Ed Mylett?

  That's what I meant earlier when I said separating from outcome. Not being so caught up in the end result as the payoff.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 30:27Ed Mylett?

  And I think, I think there's actually studies now in the brain that say even when you get to the payoff. That the dopamine in your brain actually crashes when you get the reward. That the actual dopamine spike, the joy in your brain is actually in the process and journey of getting there. Right, they've actually measured it in the brain now. So it's how, it's how right you are.

• 30:47Ed Mylett?

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• 31:32Ed Mylett?

  Download the Quince app for app exclusive offers or go to quince.com/ed for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK too. That's Q U I N C E dot com slash ed. So you know, I've been trying to take my health and my morning routine to the next level. And I used to do a whole bunch of different stuff, tons of different supplements. And then I found all in one in a drink with IM8. IM8 is the way to simplify your supplement routine finally, once and for all. 16 supplements replaced 90 ingredients across nine major organ systems in one drink. You can have all these supplements for $2.61 a day. I've changed my mornings. The whole IM8 routine has changed my mornings.

• 32:15Ed Mylett?

  I feel great and I bring energy to the entire day. Go to im8health.com/ed10 right now or click the link in the description and use code ED10 for a free welcome kit, five free travel sachets, plus 10% off your order. That's code ED10 at im8health.com/ed10. Code ED10 at im8health.com/ed10. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. You also talk a lot about intuition and intuitive power.

• 32:55Ed Mylett?

  And I used to not rely on that. The Bible even talks about discernment as a gift, right? And I used to fear my intuition and not trust it and think, no, I've got to, I've got to research this or know it. But people that I know that, you know, frankly, make great decisions in their life, they tap into their intuitive power. And you believe that we all have intuitive power, correct?

• 33:20Speaker 02

  Absolutely. Every single person, even animals do have intuition. In fact, they are even more intuitive than human beings. We have intuitive power and we need to tap into it. That makes life a lot more fun and a lot more easier.

• 33:36Ed Mylett?

  How do you do that? By just listening to that whisper, that voice in your heart and your head?

• 33:40Speaker 02

  For that, you need to have clarity in minds. If your mind is all with buzz of too many things and worries, forget about intuition. Again, here, breathing and breath work and meditation helps you to connect to that deeper self inside of you, which is non-changing.

• 33:59Ed Mylett?

  What specific thing? I want him to read the book and I want him to go to your courses too. So I want to go and give too much. But what about breathing? What could you teach us right now as it relates to our breathing that would, that would benefit us?

• 34:10Speaker 02

  See, the first act of life is you took a deep breath in. Then you started crying. The last act of our life is you will breathe out and you'll make others cry.

• 34:22Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 34:23Speaker 02

  If you don't do that, then you have not lived a good life.

• 34:26Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 34:28Speaker 02

  So in between, when we are breathing every day and night, we are releasing toxins from the body, we are bringing rest to our subconscious, unconscious mind. But we seldom attend to the breath, which has several patterns, several rhythms.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  So by attending to the rhythm of the breath, or breathing it in certain rhythms, it sets the clock in its right perspective, you know? No point in having a clock showing eastern time here in the west coast, right? Or giving in time of Israel in, sitting in USA. So you need to set your clock to the current position where you are.

• 35:16Ed Mylett?

  It's really true.

• 35:17Speaker 02

  Like that mind, or body, or breath, or intellect, or memory, all these seven, our faculties, inner faculties, gets into rhythm.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  And so we are in the present moment.

• 35:33Ed Mylett?

  That's what breathing's done for me. Focusing on my breath has brought me to the, I have a hard, I had a hard time just getting quiet, emptying my mind. And when I started to focus on my breath work, I realized I'm right here, right now.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  And it's easy.

• 35:46Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, and it's easy. It is so easy. It's interesting in life, the things that are the most wonderful in our lives, we need to be careful not to take for granted. So you have this amazing spouse, and maybe over time, because they're just there all the time, you begin to take them for granted. Or, you know, you have children in your home, parents can relate to this, and boy, then when they leave, you just go, I hope I didn't, did I take it for granted when they were here? And breath is like that. Breath is with you all the time, and because it's with you all the time, don't you think we just sort of take it for granted that it's just there and it's not that big of a deal? You agree?

• 36:24Speaker 02

  Right.

• 36:25Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. If you could see his face, he really agrees with me right now, so that's a good thing. I've made a very profound point, which I love to hear. Okay, let me get some good stuff on top of this. You say confusion is a temporary state. And I think that so many people in the world right now, they're confused. What's going on in the economy? What's going on in my own life? Am I really pursuing my true purpose? And people just...

• 36:53Ed Mylett?

  And I, I feel like pain is temporary also in people's lives. But you talk about this idea that confusion is temporary. And I just wanted you to elaborate on that because I think people think they're going to be live in this perpetual state of not knowing their purpose or their passion or their cause or where they're going.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  You know, knowledge comes in contrast. It's always like that. You can feel the cold because there is heat. Similarly, there has to be some clarity only then you can even feel the confusion. If the confusion is so perpetual, you can't even feel it. You can't even know that you are confused. So they all come in little doses or little gaps. So in the gap, you realize, oh, I was confused or I'm in confusion. That is a clarity, see?

• 37:45Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  If I say that, oh, I am so confused, that means you have some clarity at least.

• 37:50Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 37:50Speaker 02

  You realize what state you are in, right? And so we cannot generalize and eternalize everything. Usually we say, I generalize, you know, I'm, oh, I'm always like this, I'm always dull and I always lazy. These are things that, you know, we tend to see that way. But in reality, you'd simply have to take a little time for yourself to have the clarity dawn in you. I would say more than, Parat, I would say more than confusion today, people are in a state of uncertainty.

• 38:35Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  Everything is uncertain. So the state of uncertainty causes more confusion in the mind.

• 38:47Speaker 02

  About the choices.

• 38:48Ed Mylett?

  What I was going to say about that was,

• 38:53Ed Mylett?

  I hope everybody can feel what I feel sitting really close to you. Because, energy is real. And when you're in the presence of somebody that has such peaceful energy,

• 39:04Ed Mylett?

  or clarity, you tend to catch some of it. So like, as I'm sitting here listening, I'm finding myself like, very at ease, very peaceful, very, uh, clear in what I'm thinking about and that I want to do. And I feel like that's a, of, almost like a, an energy frequency that you, you give off. And I guarantee you, everyone who's come in your presence feels this. It's just, it's just easier. It's easier.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  You know, we can be more through our vibrations than through our words.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  You know, you may talk for hours, but then, if the vibration doesn't convey, nothing gets conveyed.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  So you can, one can stand and talk about love, for one hour. But if they're not living it, if it's not coming as of, in the vibrational level, you don't feel anything.

• 39:57Ed Mylett?

  You're right.

• 39:58Speaker 02

  But a puppy in your home, a dog in your house, can make you feel that love. In no time. A baby can make you feel that vibes, right?

• 40:06Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, just their vibrational frequency, just their presence. And you should ask yourself, everybody, I want you to talk about this too. When I'm around you, it makes me evaluate other people I'm around. And what energy do they give me? And, you know, I don't think people evaluate often enough, the vibrational frequency they're getting from the people they surround themselves the most with. Do you believe there are toxic people? Do you believe there's toxic energy? Do you believe people should be more vigilant in their evaluation of the human beings they surround themselves with? What are your beliefs about that? Your thoughts?

• 40:47Speaker 02

  As I said, we are the energy field, definitely. Each other's energy affect us. If someone is very angry and they're, they're coming with those vibes, and then, of course, it affects you. Unless and until you are very well, uh, established in yourself, you're very strong, you're very centered, then you take them all as kids.

• 41:12Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  See, like a school teacher. A nursery school class teacher, kindergarten teacher, she knows kids come with all different emotions.

• 41:22Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  And even if they are jumping around, some is crying, some is yelling, some is angry. It doesn't affect the teacher.

• 41:30Ed Mylett?

  It's true. It's true.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  Because you have gone one step ahead to make yourself much stronger.

• 41:39Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  So again here, breathing, meditation, if it is practiced regularly, it'll keep you in that state of positive energy. So the negative energy doesn't affect you that much as much as it would otherwise.

• 41:55Ed Mylett?

  Maybe the best description I've heard of that is how you described the five elements. And then ending with light. Would you tell everybody about that? Because I think that that's, I think that that light is energy, right? Can you, can you tell them what the five elements are of?

• 42:11Speaker 02

  See, the, we have earth, water, fire, ether, these are the elements.

• 42:17Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 42:18Speaker 02

  But the one interesting thing, if you see,

• 42:24Speaker 02

  the lighter energy spreads more.

• 42:27Ed Mylett?

  Spreads more.

• 42:27Speaker 02

  Spreads more.

• 42:29Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 42:29Speaker 02

  The finer it is, it reaches more.

• 42:32Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 42:32Speaker 02

  So mind is much lighter, in a sense.

• 42:36Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 42:39Speaker 02

  In meditation, one can experience this, you know, you cannot understand just by, as a concept.

• 42:45Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  But as an experience, you can get it if you, if you sit with a teacher or learn or practice it, then it's easy.

• 42:54Ed Mylett?

  What is Dharma and Shiva? What are those? What does that mean?

• 42:58Speaker 02

  See, Dharma is the true nature.

• 43:02Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 43:04Speaker 02

  Your Dharma, see, your Dharma is to talk and to express yourself and motivate people. That is your Dharma.

• 43:11Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 43:13Speaker 02

  A doctor's Dharma is to reassure people of their health and help them to get out of their sickness.

• 43:21Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  Right? A teacher's dharma is to dispel the ignorance and get knowledge to the student. So dharma is that translate, that's your nature which translates into action.

• 43:38Ed Mylett?

  That's Dharma. What is Shiva?

• 43:40Speaker 02

  Shiva is that principle, the samam-bhonom of all creation.

• 43:46Ed Mylett?

  Got it.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  That in which everything is, into which everything goes.

• 43:51Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 43:52Speaker 02

  And by which everything is sustained and are born. That, that field which is truth, beauty and benevolence, that is Shiva.

• 44:02Ed Mylett?

  I love this. Was there an experience early in your life that put you on this path that you're on? Like, how do you become you?

• 44:10Ed Mylett?

  Is there something that happened?

• 44:11Speaker 02

  No, no, nothing special happened. Usually people come on spiritual path that some drastic, either tragedy or a incident has happened. And none of those hit me. From my childhood, I knew I came for doing some work.

• 44:27Ed Mylett?

  You knew as a little boy?

• 44:30Ed Mylett?

  Did you have some special insights or feelings into people? I think, we all have these gifts, right? You said minds to communicate or motivate. But certain people in certain areas, I believe, are born with an abundance of one or more of those things. So I probably was born with maybe a proclivity to communicate or speak.

• 44:49Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 44:49Ed Mylett?

  Right? And so yours was, did you?

• 44:52Speaker 02

  See, every child has that, you know?

• 44:55Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 44:55Speaker 02

  We all have the joy, we have all bliss. Every baby comes to this world as a bundle of joy. Bundle of bliss. And people on the course of days, years, they lose it. I didn't lose it, I'm holding on to it.

• 45:10Ed Mylett?

  You've held on to yours. Look at how joyful you are. You laugh a lot, you, you. I just feel like there's a lot of people that would listen to this and go, I don't know what mine is though. So I, I think, I think you would agree with me. I think a lot of people.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  It's good. You know, it's good to say, I don't know about myself, rather than putting a label on yourself about all your limitations or, you know?

• 45:36Ed Mylett?

  Do you think, well, that's good to know. So I think you just gave a lot of people a little break right there that they're like, okay, maybe it's good that I don't know. But it wouldn't be good to end your life at the end and never figure out what it was. Right? So it might be okay right now not to know because that creates curiosity. But nobody wants to get to 110 years old and go, I never figured out my purpose. Right? Nobody wants to get to there.

• 45:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:58Ed Mylett?

  So is there, is there a way that someone begins?

• 46:02Speaker 02

  No, first, the first step is to say, acknowledge that I don't know about myself or my abilities. I may have many abilities. That takes you out of your limited identity with which you are crushing yourself or limiting your growth or limiting your expression of abilities that you are endowed with.

• 46:28Speaker 02

  A second step is to say, I can do whatever I decide to do, whatever I wish to do.

• 46:39Ed Mylett?

  I, I think more people, I gotta say something to you about that. I want to talk to you about this. Like I'm just, everyone gets to listening to you and I talking for a minute. This isn't for everybody else. I've realized in me lately.

• 46:55Ed Mylett?

  I don't know if it's growth or just change, but the parts of me. I think you need to check in on yourself from time to time and upend audit what matters now compared to before. So when I was a young man, I wanted to be successful and influential and achieve and, and whatever all that comes with that, probably rich, right? Probably have money, even though I never really thought a lot about that. And then I got to a stage in my life that I think I'm in now where my real mission and goal is just to contribute as much as I can to other people. But there's this other part of me that now.

• 47:42Ed Mylett?

  Feels he needs a time of rest and rediscovery and recuperation. And it's an interesting thing for me because all of my friends are still like one of the other two versions of me. And so I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna write this book. Where's your new book, Ed? You haven't written your next book. And there's this part of my spirit that's just saying, no, this is, and I haven't know that I've done it yet, but like, right now, I feel like I'm supposed to be resting and recovering and recuperating a little bit. And it's very foreign to me because I've never allowed myself to think that before or feel those things before. And I really wanna turn inward right now.

• 48:23Ed Mylett?

  And I feel like I'd be more valuable to other people going forward if I turned introspective and inward for a while. Yet I have nobody in my circle who's at that stage. It's not like I've grown out of something, I've just morphed, changed.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  This is very interesting and it's essential thing to check the burnout. You see, activity and rest, they go hand in hand. It's not that you first achieve success and then one day you will come and rest. Rest will help you to achieve things in much more effortless and efficient manner. What you would put, you know, yourself so much and still your success is less, that that means that you have not rested enough, you have not taken that inner look.

• 49:15Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 49:16Speaker 02

  See? So they are complementary, they appear to be opposite, but they're complementary. Now, there are two types of joy. One joy is you achieve something, you success, when you get something, you have, you're happy, right? And you get a present on the Christmas Eve or your birthday and then you're all curious to open it and, you know, there is a joy in getting, that's an infant joy. We have all grown with that joy.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  But there is another joy that comes to you when you give.

• 49:53Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  The joy of a grandmother. I often say the joy of a grandfather, grandmother is in when they give to the kids and in the joy of them, they find their own joy.

• 50:04Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 50:05Speaker 02

  So we have to grow from the joy of grabbing and getting to joy of giving, contributing. That would bring immense satisfaction and it is restful too.

• 50:22Ed Mylett?

  You're right. That was really good right there.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  How about a latte?

• 50:30Ed Mylett?

  Maybe dark roast?

• 50:32Speaker 03

  Vanilla?

• 50:32Ed Mylett?

  Caramel?

• 50:33Speaker 03

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• 50:57Ed Mylett?

  That was really, really good right there. You also say, don't sit around and analyze yourself too much, which I think is interesting coming from a guru, right? Like you don't sit around too much because does that mean if you just become so self-involved if you analyze too much your own life that you can almost become, it almost becomes an ego thing? What do you mean when you say that? Cause I think, I think there's a community of people, I think you'd agree with me. There's a bunch of people in the world that are just go, go, go, go, go. And they don't take any time whatsoever to give themselves the gift of self-reflection analysis. Then there's another group of people that all they're doing is analyzing themselves constantly. They're not getting around to doing a whole lot, right?

• 51:38Speaker 02

  It's like chewing that, it's like chewing gum. You're chewing it and not getting anything out of it. It's all patterns and thoughts and they come and they go, you know, it's just in a field, places impact you, people impact your thought process and all that. And why do you have to analyze so much and identify yourself with those thoughts?

• 52:00Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  You know, you don't need to do that. I said, just move on.

• 52:04Ed Mylett?

  Just keep moving.

• 52:05Speaker 02

  Keep moving.

• 52:06Ed Mylett?

  So you talk about this guy last year who won the Nobel Prize in Physics and basically his overall belief system was, none of this is real, right? So we, I want you to talk about this because it's kind of, the guy won a Nobel Prize in Physics and is basically his conclusion is.

• 52:22Speaker 02

  Three scientists, three of them said that.

• 52:25Ed Mylett?

  Tell us about that. Tell us about that.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  Well, this has been said in ancient philosophy long time back. You know, the world is like a dream. It's unreal. What is real is within you.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  So realize that something in you which doesn't change and you will realize everything else is temporary. Only the fact stays on your face and nothing is permanent. See, our thoughts are not there all the time. Our thoughts are not, you know, emotions are changing. Our body is changing. You get wrinkles, you get whatever, Botox and all that you do, still it is changing, right?

• 53:09Ed Mylett?

  You're right. You, um,

• 53:13Ed Mylett?

  you've lived an amazing life.

• 53:16Ed Mylett?

  And I'm curious, what do you believe is on the other side of this?

• 53:24Speaker 02

  It's a surprise. Let us keep some surprise. Why do you want to know everything right away?

• 53:29Ed Mylett?

  Right, right. So you're okay with not knowing every element of it?

• 53:35Speaker 02

  I don't need to analyze that. I know because that, you know, when you go deep within yourself, you know that there is something that is, that goes from life to life.

• 53:46Ed Mylett?

  But don't you think that that's the, here's why I ask it.

• 53:51Ed Mylett?

  I think it's the, I think it's the primary question that human beings live with since the day they were born. Is what does this mean? Is this real?

• 54:01Speaker 02

  That's good. That that's a good question to have. This question helps us like a vehicle to move where we want to go. The spiritual journey. We should not be in a hurry to find an answer for it. Who am I? What do I want? Where do I go? What is the purpose of my life? These questions themselves removes all the cobwebs on our path. It makes our it brings clarity and direction to where we want to go. I usually say go with negation. If you are confused about the purpose of your life. Now list out what is not the purpose of your life.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  The purpose of your life is not to be miserable and make others miserable. Not to be greedy and just get swayed away by someone else's mistakes.

• 54:58Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 54:59Speaker 02

  And you know? Other thing I say is anger is a punishment. You give it to yourself or someone else's mistake.

• 55:09Ed Mylett?

  Man, is that the truth? You know, I gotta tell you something. I never thought I would say that Gurudev and Matthew McConaughey share a similar belief system. But you know, the actor Matthew McConaughey, he was just on my show recently. And we were talking about trying to figure out who you are and what your identity is. And he goes, well, I think you ought to start with who you're not. What am I not? And it's almost identical to what you just said. And so he said it with a totally different accent than you in a completely different background. But it's this it's a very similar conclusion. So, all right, I got a couple of things I gotta ask you about psychedelics. You like them, you don't like them?

• 55:47Speaker 02

  I say stay away from them.

• 55:49Ed Mylett?

  Okay. Why?

• 55:53Speaker 02

  I see people have used it and they don't look very happy and healthy either. And when you can do it all, when you can have that high, just with your own breath, why do you spend money and your health to get an altered state of consciousness?

• 56:13Ed Mylett?

  Now, I didn't think you were gonna say that, and that's interesting. I almost wish I asked that in the beginning of the interview, so everybody, because you know it's the thing right now.

• 56:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a temporary high that people experience. But I can say you can do and experience permanent high and feel healthy and have less sleep, three, four hours sleep, and you get many powers in your own system. You know, you become a powerhouse if you start meditating and doing breathing.

• 56:44Ed Mylett?

  Did you say three or four hours sleep?

• 56:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:47Ed Mylett?

  Wait a minute, is that what you get a night?

• 56:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, four hours, three hours, that's good enough.

• 56:52Ed Mylett?

  You have this much energy. Stop it, wait a minute. You have this much energy, you've flown across the planet to come see me here today, and you're telling me that you average three or four hours of sleep?

• 57:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 57:05Ed Mylett?

  Well, you say that like, yeah, of course I do. You know that that's not normal.

• 57:09Speaker 02

  No, but see, if you meditate, you get to that. I'm not telling you should not, should straight away start doing it, you know, you'll be a wreck. I don't want you to do that, try that, but you know, that will be enough for you. It's not insomnia, by the way. I can sleep if I want to, I can sleep six hours later, but.

• 57:29Ed Mylett?

  You don't. How is your, how is your energy level? So, I've watched videos of you for a long time. I've watched you all the way back to when you had dark hair. Okay, and now it's not so dark anymore. So, do you feel older? Do you feel less energy?

• 57:45Speaker 02

  What do you think?

• 57:45Ed Mylett?

  I don't think you do, and that's surprising.

• 57:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're right. That's what, that's what, yeah.

• 57:50Ed Mylett?

  And you attribute that to just the years and years and years of work you've done?

• 57:57Speaker 02

  Just being the space of yourself, love, and nothing, nothing other than that.

• 58:05Ed Mylett?

  What a great reflection you are of, um, no, your great expression of joy and love. And I'm telling you, everyone, like, you feel it when you're, when you're in his presence. Okay, I'll give you one more question because we've taken up so much time today. And, um, and again, I feel like I legitimately have gotten to like four percent of the things that I want to ask you. So you're gonna have to fly 20 hours back and do this again when we have another one of these. But if you, if someone was listening, they said, listen, I've had some things happen to me in my life.

• 58:39Ed Mylett?

  People have hurt me, you know, I'm carrying some emotional pain in my life. Or, you know, I've recently gone through a divorce or my business failed or, um, you know, just life so far hasn't turned out like I dreamed it when I was a little boy or a little girl. And I found myself listening to Ed's show and you're here today. And, uh, you know, I'd like to turn the page and begin again from where I am. What would you say to that person?

• 59:07Speaker 02

  Very good decision, start anew. No point in life is too late for it.

• 59:16Speaker 02

  And whatever pain you have had in the past, it has taught you something. It has made you strong, it has made you deep somewhere. Now just shed all that and move on, you know? But there is a beautiful you inside you that's looking for an expression.

• 59:37Speaker 02

  It has gone through all the bad, but now for it to come out, beautiful life is ahead of you.

• 59:46Ed Mylett?

  I'm so grateful that you came this far today. I've enjoyed it so much, so much.

• 59:54Ed Mylett?

  Your description of you is you're a humanitarian, that's one of the things. And now that I've been with you, you are. An ambassador of peace and real, true human values. I am so grateful for you.

• 1:00:08Speaker 02

  Thank you, Ed.

• 1:00:09Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:10Speaker 02

  Lovely. And continue to inspire people as you have been doing. All the best to you.

• 1:00:15Ed Mylett?

  Thank you, all the best to you. I intend to do that. Hey, everybody, one thing. You can go to artofliving.org. You can go to youtube.com/shri, which is S R I, S R I. And you can just Google him and you'll find everything you need. And Notes for the Journey Within is his upcoming book. What an amazing conversation today. Everybody, please share this with anybody that you care about, that you want to have more bliss, success, joy, and abundance in their life. God bless you all. Max out.