TBT: Carly Gregg: Honor Roll to Homicide

Throwback Thursday It’s October — and you know what that means: Murder Mystery Month. This week, Bunnie and Meme dive into the chilling true crime case of Carly Gregg, the 14-year-old honor student whose story stunned the internet. From FYP fame to national headlines, the March 2024 case left millions questioning how a straight-A teenager could become a cold-blooded killer. As surveillance footage surfaces and evidence piles up, Bunnie and Meme debate whether this was a premeditated murder or a crime of passion. Between antipsychotic meds, conflicting motives, and a strangely calm stepfather, every twist will leave you questioning what really happened behind closed doors. Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

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• 0:55Bunnie XO?

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• 1:47Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on? What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blond. Guess what month it is, Mimi? It's October. And you know what that means? True crime, baby. True crime is my favorite. For the next four weeks, we are going to be covering all different sorts of true crime stories. And the podcast just gets turned into just so much fun. It's our favorite time of year.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  It really is.

• 2:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. As you can see, we're on the tour bus. So we are making it work in very small working conditions.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  We made it feel very homely with our decorations.

• 2:26Bunnie XO?

  Yep. I love it. I like it.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  Frickin' bats.

• 2:29Bunnie XO?

  It's frickin' bats.

• 2:32Bunnie XO?

  I'm so excited. Well, all right. So we just got done doing a meet and greet. It was so much fun. We are in, where are we? Pittsburgh.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Pittsburgh.

• 2:39Bunnie XO?

  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, baby. And we are just smack dab in the middle of tour.

• 2:45Speaker 01

  Coming in hot.

• 2:46Bunnie XO?

  Coming in hot, baby. It's been a brutal month.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, we had a day off yesterday and we got to spend it at the beach, but someone was sick.

• 2:53Bunnie XO?

  I almost died because I took trisepotide this week and we'll talk about that on another podcast.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  Go listen to Ask, Tell, Confess. We just went through that.

• 3:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, well, I didn't tell my whole story, though. So on another Ask, Tell, Confess, I'll definitely tell you guys the whole story of what's happening, but anyways, so who are we talking about today?

• 3:12Speaker 01

  So today, this is actually a recent case that, I mean, how recent really was this?

• 3:17Bunnie XO?

  It's very recent, like within what, the last year?

• 3:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, um, Carly Gregg has been on everyone's for you pages, I'm sure, because that video, I mean, you never really get the amount of video that this has. Like, I'm, when I dove into this case, the amount of security footage that she did not take care of?

• 3:40Bunnie XO?

  No, it was crazy.

• 3:42Speaker 01

  I was shocked. So we've got home footage.

• 3:44Bunnie XO?

  This happened because she was 14 when it happened and she was 15 when she got convicted, March 19th. So March 19th, 2024. This just happened.

• 3:54Speaker 01

  This is so fresh.

• 3:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, this just happened, so.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  There was a lot to this case that I didn't know via TikTok. So once we actually dove into it and learned about it, I was shocked. I feel like it changed my mind on a couple of things. I feel like this is going to be interesting.

• 4:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's definitely interesting because you and I disagree.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  We do.

• 4:13Bunnie XO?

  So I would really like to. So I think you're gonna do the first part and I'll do the second half.

• 4:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're gonna go into who Carly was. Um, as a not so typical teen, Carly Gregg was born in Mississippi. And she was born to, uh, Ashley and Kevin.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  Kevin was very much an addict, uh, not just of alcohol, but of other drugs. And Ashley did not want Carly to be a part of his life. She fought tooth and nail. So that Carly could not have any visitation with him whatsoever. She wanted to take all the rights away from him.

• 4:49Bunnie XO?

  He was also physically abusive.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Do both is what I was told, um, to both of them. And that right there, I mean, should be grounds for not having your child around him. I completely understand. I do agree with her on taking away rights from him. Um, and it was a long battle between them. So she did actually end up winning custody of, uh, Carly. And from there, Kevin disappeared out of Carly's life. He wasn't around and she was there to raise. Carly sort of by herself until later on when her, um, mother finds a new love. Carly did grow up incredibly smart. Uh, they knew at an early age that she was smart.

• 5:29Bunnie XO?

  Like ridiculously, like little baby Einstein.

• 5:31Speaker 01

  Yes, the IQ was through the roof.

• 5:34Bunnie XO?

  This actually was a part of the story that shook me because I, you know.

• 5:40Bunnie XO?

  I don't wanna say looking at her, you would think that she wasn't that smart because of what her crime was. But to find out like her ACT scores and like how she got to skip a grade and stuff like that. I was like. Wait a second. How is somebody so smart did something so stupid?

• 5:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was so sloppy.

• 6:00Bunnie XO?

  Sloppy.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  Sloppy. So at the age of thirteen, she did take the ACTs like Bunny had mentioned and she scored a thirty, which is like equivalent to a sixteen year old. And which then turned the schools to be like, hey, we should probably advance her a little because she is way smarter. Than any of the kids in her grade and did end up putting her into a grade in which she was with fifteen and sixteen years old. Year olds. So she felt very isolated because she felt like she couldn't. Really get along with any of the other kids in her class. Um, she was often made fun of, they said. And that she was teased and also used, incredibly used by her peers because they did know how smart she was.

• 6:42Bunnie XO?

  They said that her ACT score was literally six points off of being perfect.

• 6:46Speaker 01

  Perfect, yes. And so were her grades. Her grades were almost perfect. They said she was in the high nineties majority of the time. So this poor girl is just, I think, too smart for her own good at this point. Um, she. Also showed not just signs of like being so smart, but just quirks. So being that she had an obsession with Swiss knives and violence early on.

• 7:11Bunnie XO?

  But I think that she probably learned that from growing up in a physically abusive household.

• 7:15Speaker 01

  Most definitely. She was attracted to violence, which could have been, you know, trauma of like wanting that fatherly love that she never had.

• 7:23Bunnie XO?

  That might have been the only fatherly love she knew.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  Exactly. And that being said, the only time she ever got in trouble was because she brought a Swiss knife. Swiss knife to school one time. She was actually pulled from school, sent to an alternative school temporarily until they did allow her back into the school system. And that was for the Swiss knife, of course, but um that that's just crazy to me.

• 7:45Bunnie XO?

  She also got in trouble for helping an entire class cheat.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  Yes, so um in twenty twenty two, she actually became student of the year. And at that time, her mom had actually began working at her school. So as she started to dabble in this um all of this. I guess cheating and those kind of things. Her mom was right there witnessing all of this happening. So she had hacked into the teacher's computer, got all of the answers. And it she it wasn't that she intended to have the entire class know, but the small group of people she did tell. They told and then those people told and then eventually it did get around and someone did snitch and was like, well, we all got it from Carly.

• 8:27Bunnie XO?

  I feel like I I sense a child who just wants to be accepted by people around her. Like somebody who feels like she's never been accepted into one peer group.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  And that being, she is also much younger than her peers at that time.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  She did become romantic with a a fellow student and they really felt, the mom really felt like she shouldn't be.

• 8:52Bunnie XO?

  I mean, she's at this point, she's like, what, twelve, thirteen? You shouldn't be romantic with anybody.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Anybody.

• 8:58Bunnie XO?

  Granted, my first kiss was when I was twelve, but still. Yeah. When was your first kiss?

• 9:03Speaker 02

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• 9:33Speaker 01

  They're probably about the same. Yeah. Yeah. It's with tongue. Ooh. Yeah. I didn't go tongue right away. James at the bus stop. Oh, really? At the bus stop? At the bus stop, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Interesting. Mine was on my friend's bed. God, you little hussy. I was. You're a frickin' hussy. Was it just kissing? He just kissed me. His name was Trevor. Trevor. Trevor sounds like a cute boy. I feel like all the cute boys' names were Trevor. Yeah, his name was Trevor. He was like my first, like, real boyfriend. Yeah. Um, anyways, sorry, babe. Um, Jason's over there editing this, like, what? Uh, so... Can't believe she kissed somebody at 12 before me. Uh, mom really wanted, Ashley really wanted Carly to break up with this boy.

• 10:15Speaker 01

  She didn't feel like it was healthy for them, but she just felt the more she pushed her, the more she ran to him. So eventually she did kind of give up and was like, whatever. She saw them at school holding hands, even after Carly was like, oh, no, no, we're broken up. You're holding his hand at school. Mom made her break up with him. And that's why she ended up giving up. She just felt like the more she fought, the more Carly would want to run towards him. She caught them, you know, holding hands at school and eventually she was like, oh, you know, it is what it is. Uh, but Carly also had a problem with sneaking her phone, getting burner phones. The mom regularly actually went through Carly's phone because of all these troubles that she was showing. And, uh, so she would get a burner phone if her phone was taken away,

• 11:00Speaker 01

  or she would have regular checks in which the mom went through her phone to make sure she didn't have any social media. So no TikTok, no Snapchat, none of those things. Mom didn't want her having any type of... You know, something that could get her in trouble.

• 11:13Bunnie XO?

  Which honestly, I don't have Bailey doesn't have any of that. And I don't, I think nowadays having your kids on social media is just a gateway for just a shitstorm.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  It is. As much as we are social media, I see the bad side of it.

• 11:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for kids, I just don't feel like kids nowadays can handle that much overstimulation.

• 11:31Speaker 01

  Nope, nope. They're actually banning a lot of phones right now for schools and stuff.

• 11:35Bunnie XO?

  How do you feel about that?

• 11:37Speaker 01

  Um, I, I'm back and forth about it because if there was ever an emergency, you know, we live in a very bad society and you know, which people are out to harm children and I would want my child to be able to contact me and tell me that they're safe. I would want my child to be able to call for help. Um, I do feel like maybe, you know, just put the phone up during class.

• 11:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I put them up front. Know where your phone is, have access to it and then, cause I feel like when Bailey had her phone, she was on her phone during school. All the time. Like her, the most usage she had was during school. I'm like, do you do? And it really affected her grades. And I was just like, do you, are you working in school at all? Like, what are you doing? So I really feel like they should turn them into the front of the class, but have complete, can see them, have complete access to them if they need them. Um, but I don't, I don't have a problem with them kind of, yeah, yeah, phone cubbies. I don't have a problem with them like monitoring, like the kids.

• 12:31Speaker 01

  I completely agree. I, I would want my child to have their phone just for safety reasons. Um, so uh, she didn't have any social media and she had a problem with that because her mom ended up finding that she was dabbling in vaping and uh, not just nicotine vaping, but weed cartridges, things like that. And it became huge in their household with arguments on phones, vaping, all of those kinds of things.

• 12:59Bunnie XO?

  One of the major arguments between them was that she was also trying to reach out to her biological father.

• 13:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, so she had gone in one of the checks of going into Carly's phone, she did. Find that on a social media app, she was attempting to reach out to her biological dad and that there were lots of searches. Um, in her webpages for someone with the same name. So of course, you know, she's out there searching for her dad. She's got issues.

• 13:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know if it's issues because I did the same thing looking for my mom when I was growing up. I think it's just a child's natural want to know where she came from or know the other parent, especially because. Ashley did have to crack down on Carly because she was kind of a bad kid. So she probably was looking for an out, you know, like that's how kids are at that age. They're super manipulative and they wanna go to the fun parent. They don't wanna go where there's rules.

• 13:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, and do we know what point the stepdad stepped into their lives?

• 13:51Bunnie XO?

  No, I can Google that.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  Give that a Google real quick. So the mom is constantly battling with Carly. Over the fact that she is trying to attempt to reach her dad, which I would love to know more about that. Honestly, I would like to know if how the mom. Felt about her attempting to reach out to the dad or if the mom. Was even willing to allow her to have that conversation because I feel like if she really did wanna meet with the dad. Maybe you reach out to the dad and you, you know, arrange them to have that relationship, even if it was visitation. With her there or whatever that is. Another part of her mental health was Carly actually got caught cutting. So a lot of her friends were concerned about her at school and they had been communicating with the mom too, but.

• 14:39Speaker 01

  They were really concerned because Carly had come out and told them that, you know, she had been cutting her thighs at the time. And that she was not in a good mental headspace. Her mom had reached out because between the dad, the cutting, the Swiss knives, the boyfriend, all of these things. The mom had reached out uh to a therapist and signed Carly up to. Start going to therapy for anxiety and stress. And this is where I believe. Um, in conversation between therapist, doctor, all those kinds of things that Carly was placed on a medication.

• 15:11Bunnie XO?

  So it doesn't, and to pause you right there, it doesn't say when they got together, but Heath released a statement after she was sentenced, which we'll read later and said that him and Ashley had been together almost a decade. So I'm assuming when Ashley, or I'm sorry, when Carly was probably around five or six.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  Okay, so like he'd already been a part of her life for.

• 15:31Bunnie XO?

  A substantial amount of time.

• 15:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, so this is only fa- father figure that she knew. Uh, and I don't really know much about the support he had within Carly and Ashley's relationship. And I don't know how much of a role he played in Carly getting help for all of these issues. Being that she went to therapy for anxiety and stress for a little while, but they did say that her mother did not follow through and eventually she just stopped going.

• 15:58Bunnie XO?

  So they just put her on antipsychotics?

• 16:00Speaker 01

  So then she, her primary care is who then came back and put her on the antipsychotics.

• 16:05Bunnie XO?

  See, this makes me think that there was definitely more going on at home than what is being told because a child is not gonna be that, um, rebellious. Uh, cause I was an extremely rebellious child, but I was getting abused at home.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:20Bunnie XO?

  She also said her, her stepfather sexually abused her. So could this have been going on and this, maybe this is why Ashley was so strict with her and like, you know, is this why she was acting out? I mean, for a teen to be cutting herself, that's extreme pain that that child is in.

• 16:38Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 16:38Bunnie XO?

  You know, so it's like, what are you trying to release? I get that you grew up in a, in an abusive household from a young age, but I just don't see that mu- you know, I don't, I see like there's, I feel like there's so much more.

• 16:51Speaker 01

  That we're missing a huge chunk of the story that that has not come forward. You know, cause this is so fresh and new. We talked about that in the beginning. There is, I'm sure, plenty of things that are eventually going to come out involving the stepdad, involving Carly. Like, and who knows what role the mother played in all of those? She could have known. You know, and just not spoken up. We we don't know. We honestly don't know.

• 17:13Bunnie XO?

  Carly turns eighteen, am I allowed to interview her, or will that cause an upset?

• 17:19Bunnie XO?

  Or is it because she's not a dude that it'll be?

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Fine, right? Uh Carly was placed on antipsychotics and

• 17:28Bunnie XO?

  Which antipsychotics, when you're eleven or twelve, your brain is still developing. And you guys know how I feel about putting children on medication. Do I think that there are some exceptions to the rule? Absolutely. Do I think people, some people really need it? Absolutely. But I also feel like a child's mind is still forming. It's still, you know, you're growing, you're going through so many hormonal changes. Like you are giving a child antipsychotics. You do not know how they're going to react in that child's brain.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, literally. And what affects good and bad is gonna have. You're trying to do it just for the good. But like, man, there's so many bad side effects.

• 18:06Bunnie XO?

  So many.

• 18:07Speaker 01

  And I think that's what we actually ended up seeing happen because she was on um different antipsychotics. And at some point, the doctors were basically like, we don't know what else to do. And that's sort of, if you guys know anything about Lexapro, Lexapro is one of those drugs. I truly feel like a doctor gets to a point where they're like, I don't know what else is gonna help. So we're gonna just throw Lexapro at it. And hope this just takes care of whatever problem you have.

• 18:35Bunnie XO?

  They put you on Lexapro, didn't they?

• 18:38Speaker 01

  I I almost refused because it's like, it was in discussion, but it was in discussion with other medications. Uh Lexapro is something I never wanted to put myself on because of the side effects and um changes I've seen within people. And I do feel like they're permanent changes. I feel like that truly alters your brain and it makes you almost unhuman, which is what we saw with Carly.

• 18:57Bunnie XO?

  Super numb, like unemotional.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  Exactly. And there were some medications that I remember being on when I was on antidepressants. Uh which made me feel like that. So I could not imagine, uh even close to imagine what she went through. Because I know what that numb feeling feels like.

• 19:13Bunnie XO?

  I feel like this is a little girl who was screaming out for help and didn't know how to get it. And she just became a product of her environment.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 19:23Bunnie XO?

  And, you know.

• 19:26Bunnie XO?

  I yeah, I don't wanna say that I sympathize with her, but I mean, she's a child dude. How many of us made severe mistakes when we were younger? Granted, we did not kill people.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  No.

• 19:36Bunnie XO?

  And that's not right at all, but you know, they switched her to this Lexapro and then five days later, what happens?

• 19:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 19:43Bunnie XO?

  She kills her mother.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  Only five days prior was this new medication introduced. And within those five days, I can guarantee you, she never saw anyone to see how she was feeling. Those people throw these medications at you and are like, well, we'll see what happens in a month.

• 19:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 19:58Speaker 01

  I know in those five days, you did not go see a doctor. I know in those five days, you did not get checkups, nothing.

• 20:04Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 20:04Speaker 01

  So who knows how she was feeling within those days?

• 20:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  Leading up to this and um, do you wanna take over?

• 20:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'll take over from there. So.

• 20:12Speaker 01

  Day of.

• 20:13Bunnie XO?

  Day of the murder, um, you know, everything was normal that day. I think um, they had just gotten home from school. Was that what it was?

• 20:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that she had taken her like a completely normal day because they both went to school together. The mom worked there. And the dad leaves shortly after the stepdad.

• 20:31Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  Leaves shortly after them in the morning and everyone who interacted with them at school that day were like, it was a normal day.

• 20:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like everything was normal and um, you know, when they got home, Carly went to go walk the dogs. Ashley, her mom, uh, did a check of her room like she normally does. And she did a check of her room that day because a friend had snitched on Carly. And told the mom that day that they were concerned for her because she had began, you know, dabbling in vapes and like was becoming an addict. Like she had to smoke weed every day. She had to have the vapes and all that stuff. So while Carly was out walking the dogs, that was her mom's opportunity to go through her room. She ended up finding four vapes. Weed cartridges too, I believe, right?

• 21:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:18Bunnie XO?

  Something else like that.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:19Bunnie XO?

  So when her mom was going through her room, uh, Carly walks in on her mom searching her bedroom and found that her mother had, you know, found all of her stuff. And I understand how enraging that is as a child because my stepmom used to go through my shit all the time. And it's like, you just feel like you have no privacy. So I guarantee she was just fucking livid, you know, she was just like, does this woman ever fucking leave me alone, you know? So after that had happened. Um, and Carly's mom was done searching her room. Carly went into her mom's room, which kind of surprises me because where was her mom at? That she could go in her room?

• 21:56Speaker 01

  I'm sure still in Carly's room.

• 21:58Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:59Bunnie XO?

  So while her mom is still searching her room.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. Cause she said she was, they, they were kinda in an argument at that point. You know, and it happened so fast.

• 22:08Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm. So, um, while, while Ashley's still doing Carly's room, Carly goes to her mom's nightstand where her mom keeps a thirty eight special. And you can see her on camera and Jason will, uh, will insert the video here for everybody. You can see Carly walk into her mom's bedroom and then she walks out of her mom's bedroom. Hiding the gun behind her back.

• 22:31Speaker 01

  So obvious, you guys.

• 22:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like.

• 22:33Speaker 01

  What is that?

• 22:34Bunnie XO?

  But that tells me that she wasn't crazy because she knew that there was cameras in the house. And she knew to hide the gun. I would think that if you had lost your mind and you were kind of crazy. Granted, I understand she's probably going through a roller coaster of emotions, coming off anti psychedics, going on to Lexapro. Um, yes, I, and probably numb to everything and not thinking in her right mind, but she wasn't. So crazy enough to not realize that there was cameras watching her.

• 23:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. I, I, I.

• 23:06Bunnie XO?

  Mm. We'll get to that part. Um, so Carly walks by the cameras, like we said, with the gun behind her back and. By this time, Ashley, I think Carly had walked around like the kitchen or something like that too. And by this time Ashley had gone back into her room. And she walks into her mom's room and just cold blooded, shoots her in the face three fucking times.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 23:37Bunnie XO?

  Once in the, once in the, her chin and twice in the middle of her face. Like, first of all, how does that child have such good aim? That's crazy.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  Her obsession with violence. I'm telling you, I do not feel like this is the first time she has played with this gun.

• 23:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:53Speaker 01

  Like, I truly feel like maybe when this kid was alone or something, she was fascinated. The fact that your first thought is to go exactly where you know that gun is and have no problem knowing how to use it or anything?

• 24:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 24:07Bunnie XO?

  Like, who taught her how to shoot a gun?

• 24:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:10Bunnie XO?

  That's just, and a thirty eight special isn't a little gun.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  I hate to say it, you have a mentally unstable child in your house and you openly have a gun just sitting in your nightstand.

• 24:19Bunnie XO?

  Sitting in your nightstand.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  Not even a fingerprint safe or something? You just open, like, your kid is cutting themselves, has Swiss knives, is rebellious, obsessed with violence, and you're like, oh, I'm just gonna keep my gun over here while my kid's on antipsychotics. What?

• 24:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, that's a great point. But I just, the, the thought of how accurate she was and to shoot your mother in the face.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Which you had to be looking.

• 24:42Bunnie XO?

  That is hatred.

• 24:44Speaker 01

  That was hate.

• 24:45Bunnie XO?

  Like, I mean, shoot a foot, shoot a kneecap. Like, she straight went in there and was like, I'm about to murk this bitch. And fucking like went in there and shot her straight in her face three times.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  Which psychologically, you think about it, like, women are so worried always about like beauty and faces and stuff. It was very shocking for me to learn that she shot her in the face. I thought maybe heart, chest, something along those lines. Um, if you truly did want to kill her, go in for the heart, whatever. For her to look that woman in the face and shoot her.

• 25:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  Is diabolical to me.

• 25:21Bunnie XO?

  Diabolical, absolutely. Um, and another thing that hurt me so bad, whenever, you already know what I'm gonna say. Well, it hurt me so bad to see the dogs because it just made me think of like Chachi and Buzzy and like, oh my gosh.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  They were so scared.

• 25:35Bunnie XO?

  They were so stressed out and they didn't know what to do. They were just like, oh my god, mom is hurt. Like, they didn't know what to do.

• 25:42Speaker 01

  Because she's, you can hear her screaming.

• 25:44Bunnie XO?

  It's horrific.

• 25:45Speaker 01

  It's, you guys just, trigger warning if you're watching this podcast, um, if you're over on Patreon watching this video, just, it's a lot. It, you gotta have to be prepared to watch that.

• 25:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I mean, it's literally all on camera. And for somebody to be that intelligent, why on earth would you not go snip the cameras first?

• 26:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. Unplug them.

• 26:05Bunnie XO?

  Unplug the camera, spray paint, hang a towel over, you know, like do something.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  Literally these cameras, all you have to do is unplug them.

• 26:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so that tells me right there that it's a crime of passion.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:16Bunnie XO?

  Because she's not thinking in that moment, she's literally just going straight off of anger and is just like, you know, I'm, I'm gonna kill this woman.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 26:24Bunnie XO?

  So, besides the dogs.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Poor dogs.

• 26:28Bunnie XO?

  When Carly was done killing her mother, she walks into the kitchen and grabs her mom's phone off, off the counter after shooting her mom. And then she texts her, she's conscious enough to text her stepfather and say, "You almost home, honey?" To which he replies, to which he replies, "No, I'm gonna be here a little while longer." And then she texts back with a thumbs up. This is where I, the conspiracy theorist in me, has a problem with it. And just because of in lieu of what has happened at the, um, at the trial.

• 27:12Bunnie XO?

  I feel, and this is just me having a, you know, conspiracy theorist mind. I feel like that was code word for it's done.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  The job is done.

• 27:22Bunnie XO?

  The job is done. And that's why, because he said, "No, I'm gonna be here a little while," but then shows up back at home. Not even a little later than he was supposed to.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 27:34Bunnie XO?

  It just something's not adding up. And then when she's done texting, you hear her start singing.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  Just a ballad.

• 27:42Bunnie XO?

  Very Jodi Arias of you. I was like, it really reminded me of Jodi Arias because you know, when Jodi Arias was in the interrogation room, she's like singing. And then she like put on a whole performance for the fucking.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it was crazy. So she's like singing a song to herself.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  Yes, and like, she's sitting there. I mean, this is moments after you just committed a horrendous crime.

• 28:04Bunnie XO?

  Killed your mom.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  She's kind of just like wiggling around, just, you know, I, I, that's where I have a problem with it. I'm like, did you really not feel anything? Cause you felt joyous enough to sing.

• 28:13Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 28:13Speaker 01

  I was not skipity doo dah when I had no emotions.

• 28:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  Like you're kind of joyously sitting there.

• 28:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  And she was sort of like. Giddy about it.

• 28:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 28:25Speaker 01

  That's sickening.

• 28:26Bunnie XO?

  Which makes me an another thing which makes me think the stepfather was in on it was because why are you so good giddy?

• 28:32Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:32Bunnie XO?

  After texting your stepfather.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 28:36Bunnie XO?

  When will you be home, honey? And you say, I won't be home until later and you send a thumbs up and then you start singing?

• 28:43Speaker 01

  It's like a celebration.

• 28:44Bunnie XO?

  It's almost like she did good and for him.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  It's like a praise.

• 28:48Bunnie XO?

  In his mind, you know, and I don't know. I don't know. It's just me.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Speculation does.

• 28:53Bunnie XO?

  Straight up spec allegedly.

• 28:55Speaker 01

  Alleged.

• 28:56Bunnie XO?

  Allegedly.

• 28:56Speaker 01

  This whole thing is alleged.

• 28:57Bunnie XO?

  It's alleged. Um, so anyways, after that, after she's done with her little singing bit, she picks up her phone and then she starts texting her friends. Saying that she's like freaking out and like there was an emergency and of course, these kids are young, so nobody has a car. So, you know, nobody can get to her to help her, but she won't exactly tell them what's wrong.

• 29:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's very like, um.

• 29:18Bunnie XO?

  Evasive.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:19Bunnie XO?

  It's very evasive. It's just very like, I don't, it's almost attention seeking.

• 29:23Speaker 01

  Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's what I was looking for. It's like.

• 29:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  I'm not, it's like those people who post on Facebook and it's like send a prayer for me, but they won't tell you actually what's wrong.

• 29:29Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I hate that.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  Yep, yep.

• 29:31Bunnie XO?

  I freaking hate that.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  What it was. All these people are like, what do I, she's not saying what's wrong.

• 29:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Yeah. If I ever post something like that, I'm always like, say a prayer for me. I'll let you guys know what's going on soon, you know?

• 29:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:43Bunnie XO?

  Like when I was going through that shit with my dad, because I didn't have all the answers, you know, but I was just so fucking distraught. Um, but yeah, don't just say you need prayers and then never tell anybody what's going on, because you know, in the comments, you're gonna get 500 comments of people asking you what the fuck is going on. So she texts one of her friends who actually is a part of the case who, um, they never said her name because she's underage or whatever, but we'll just call her bestie. Okay? She texts bestie and, um, said that, you know, hey, I'm going through something. I need help. Um, so of course, the girl being a good friend was like, all right, I'm gonna have my dad drop me off. So has her dad drop her off over at the house? And when she walks in, Carly is sitting in the middle of her dogs in the living room.

• 30:27Bunnie XO?

  Cry, I'm sorry, singing, not crying, singing and playing with her fucking dogs. The friend walks in and is like, bro, you told me like this is an emergency. What the hell is going on? And what does Carly say to her? Do you get squeamish around dead bodies?

• 30:47Bunnie XO?

  Bitch, what?

• 30:48Speaker 01

  Excuse me?

• 30:49Bunnie XO?

  Literally, like, are you kidding me? Like, and that's another thing that makes me think, like, how desensitized are you to seeing like violent things? Like, what was this kid Googling? What was she, like, was she playing Dungeons and Dragons? Like, what is happening that this kid is so far removed? Like, she didn't even say, do you, would you get squeamish seeing my mother's dead body? She said, do you get squeamish seeing dead bodies? And the little girl is like, no. And so Carly takes her into the room.

• 31:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, like a prize.

• 31:19Bunnie XO?

  Like a prize, eh, like, literally, like a hunting prize, and shows this other little girl that she had killed her mom. Now, don't get me wrong. If somebody shows me a dead body, I'm going to fucking freak out on the inside, especially if somebody murdered them. But at the same time, you have to think of what this little girl's thinking, you know? She's probably like, what in the fuck is going on?

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Wow, Carly is showing her the body? Carly has the gun in her.

• 31:46Bunnie XO?

  Has the gun in her hand still, yes.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  How terrified this girl must have been to be not only staring at a dead body, you're staring at the killer too.

• 31:59Bunnie XO?

  Well, and she didn't just have the gun in her hand. She literally opens the gun up and says, hey, there was six bullets in here. Sorry, my heart's palpitating, trisepitide. Um, she, she said, there was six bullets in here. I used three on my mom. I'm gonna use three on my stepdad when he gets home. So you can either stay inside, or you can go outside and play until I kill my stepfather.

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Yes. You're just, like, this is premeditated, though. Like, she's planning this out.

• 32:30Bunnie XO?

  It's just crazy to me. And the little girl goes outside and plays.

• 32:33Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 32:34Bunnie XO?

  If I was that little girl and I went outside, my first reaction would be to take off and go get help. So I, that makes me think that she was just in fear.

• 32:42Speaker 01

  I, I, yeah, that's what I think. I think she literally felt like that girl was gonna kill her if she went anywhere.

• 32:47Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm. Cause what do they say? You have fight, flight, or fawn? And I think she went into fawn mode.

• 32:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. I feel really bad for this little girl because, like, honestly, that little girl. Was just trying to be, if you think about it, she's just trying to be there for a friend.

• 33:02Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  And now she's. Now you're.

• 33:04Bunnie XO?

  Accomplice.

• 33:05Speaker 01

  Accomplice in a almost double homicide, you know, like an attempted murder and a murder.

• 33:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 33:11Speaker 01

  How terrified must she be? And how close is this friend? Like, does she know the mom? Did you just walk into someone you've met before or just like, oh, this is.

• 33:19Bunnie XO?

  Well, they all went to the same school, I'm assuming. Yeah, she knew her mom, yeah.

• 33:23Speaker 01

  How sad and the scene of having three bullets in her face? Come on.

• 33:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 33:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's rough. And she was conscious enough to put a towel over her mom's face. Because the dad had to remove the towel to see that she was dead. Whenever, you know, we'll get to that part too, but um, you know, there's just so many things that she did.

• 33:47Bunnie XO?

  That don't make sense.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  To me, I really feel like this was premeditated. I feel like she's already thought of all these things, but she thought of the wrong things. She thought of, oh, well, I'm a shooter three times. I I feel like she knew to shoot her three times. And she knew there were six bullets in there and that she'd use the rest on it. I feel like there's so many things that make me think this was premeditated. And then the things like not erasing the cameras and things like that make me think it was rage. I don't know. I'm a fifty fifty on this.

• 34:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Well, let's keep talking about it and we'll see how we feel towards the end. But um, so the friend hears these gunshots. Carly comes running outside and says, run. So this little girl fucking takes off and books it all the way back home and Carly runs two miles away, which two miles is a long fucking run, dude.

• 34:34Speaker 01

  Carly leaves the friend kind of behind.

• 34:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 34:36Speaker 01

  Like, if you guys watch this, because the the friend says, I heard.

• 34:40Bunnie XO?

  Them like wrestling around.

• 34:42Speaker 01

  Wrestling around. There was like some kind of struggle. She thinks she believes the dad may have been trying to get the gun away from Carly. And that the shot that was sent off, or there was three shots off, right? Because then she ran out of bullets.

• 34:54Bunnie XO?

  Right, yep.

• 34:54Speaker 01

  So all three shots go off and the dad isn't dead. Like the stepdad is not dead at this point, but he is hurt. Uh, but he put up a fight.

• 35:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so from the stepdad's perspective, he said that he um, opened the door to the house. And as soon as he opened the door, Carly had the gun to his face and pulled the trigger, but he dodged it. Went like this and then that's why the bullet skimmed his neck like that. And so he's fighting with her, trying to get this fucking gun out of her hand and the guns are just going off. The gun is just going off because she's just, you know, trigger happy right now. Once she realized that the gun was out of bullets, he said that she got this crazy look on her face and like kicked back like she was looking at a demon. He said that she like freaked out and like kicked her legs like she was scared and like backing up like she had seen something crazy. And then just fucking took off.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  So then she meets friend outside and is like, yo.

• 35:50Bunnie XO?

  Says run.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  Run.

• 35:51Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 35:52Speaker 01

  Leaving friend behind, Carly takes off.

• 35:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  And let me just say, she didn't really totally take off though. In this video, she just kind of like.

• 36:01Bunnie XO?

  Well, I think she's, I think she was just fucking scared stiff, dude.

• 36:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, and the poor friend.

• 36:06Bunnie XO?

  That's a lot to fucking take on. You just saw a dead body. You just learned that your friend killed her mother.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 36:12Bunnie XO?

  You just fucking heard her try to kill her stepfather and now she's telling you to run like you probably think you're next.

• 36:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, and she, of course she runs in the complete opposite direction that Carly does.

• 36:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Friend runs home.

• 36:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, the friend went all the way back home and like told her parents. So, um, after Carly runs off, he goes to check in on his wife because he thought that there, you know, was a robber in the house. He thought that maybe Carly had mistook him for a robber like he wasn't thinking in his mind that this is my stepdaughter trying to kill me.

• 36:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 36:42Bunnie XO?

  Which, again, I still don't know how much of this I believe.

• 36:47Speaker 01

  Me either.

• 36:48Bunnie XO?

  Because it's like, you thought that fast to move and to get out of the gun's way. Like, I don't know, what are you fucking, uh, Jackie Chan? Like, come on, dude, or Bruce Lee? Like, he's like, wow.

• 37:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, like Matrix.

• 37:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, literally. I don't know. I don't know. I just, something just isn't adding up, but, um. When he went to go check the house, that's when he found Ashley and there was a towel over her face and he removed the towel and saw, you know, that she had been shot in the face and stuff like that. So when the cops showed up, Heath, that's his name, uh, was still in shock and police looked over the footage and the security cameras in the house. So they immediately knew what happened because they saw that, you know, Carly had killed her mom. And, um, during the investigation, they had a lot of, they, during the investigation, they had found out that they had a lot of issues in the house, which

• 37:42Bunnie XO?

  those issues have not been released. Nobody, it's been a very tight lipped case, which to me is crazy because you should, I don't know, present all of the evidence, especially, I guess, you know, in the court of law, you should for sure, but I mean, definitely to the people of the public too, because it's like, you guys are making somebody hate a child. It's kind of like what they did to Lyle and Eric, you know, like they made people hate them, not letting people know how bad the abuse was. I didn't know about how, uh, which we'll get into Lyle and Eric too, but I didn't know how bad the abuse was for Lyle and Eric until recently.

• 38:19Bunnie XO?

  You know, so it's like, I don't know, I just feel like not letting people know, like what was exactly going on, like was she being sexually abused by her stepfather? Was there physical abuse in the house? What else was, was the mom like, did the mom find out that the daughter and Heath were having a fucking affair and that's why she put the cameras in the house, you know, like there's just so many what ifs, you know? Yeah. So upon finding out all the problems in the house, you know, they found this stuff made her sound like a spoiled brat, but you know, like she was complaining that her mom had put cameras in the house, that she never had privacy, that you know, she, um, wasn't allowed to do things. She wasn't allowed to have social media. And it's like, kid, it was all for a reason because you act like a fucking lunatic, you know?

• 39:01Bunnie XO?

  She was also on, they found out during the investigation that she was also on multiple prescriptions. And, um, she was telling them that she was hearing voices in her head and that, um, they refused to hand over her medical records, which to me, like, wait a second.

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• 41:32Bunnie XO?

  First of all, you guys are about to

• 41:36Bunnie XO?

  Commit a child into custody of the state for the rest of her life? And you don't want to hand over medical records?

• 41:43Speaker 01

  They're also claiming insanity. That's what they initially came into this case claiming.

• 41:48Bunnie XO?

  Well, the defense did, yes.

• 41:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, oh, insanity, we're gonna pull in uh insanity and all this kind of stuff. And so the court goes, okay, hand over the the medical records where she's clinically insane. And they're like, no.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  What? Just no?

• 42:08Bunnie XO?

  But here's my thing, to be put on antipsychotics, you have to have some sort of, you know, a few grapes short of a fruit salad upstairs, you know what I'm saying? A few tacos short of a taco stand.

• 42:22Speaker 01

  And the amount of medications she was put on, this recent Lexapro switch.

• 42:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:28Speaker 01

  There had to be records of this unless there's not. You know, like,

• 42:33Bunnie XO?

  Why? How would there not be records unless she just really wasn't going to the doctors and somebody was prescribing the medication to her?

• 42:38Speaker 01

  I I mean, we don't know, but why else would you not hand over? Everything you possibly could to get this child to be tried for insanity?

• 42:51Bunnie XO?

  What if it was Heath not wanting to get the the records because in the records it talks about the sexual abuse? Again, this is all allegedly.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  Alleged.

• 43:01Bunnie XO?

  Alleged. This is all alleged.

• 43:05Speaker 01

  This entire podcast has been alleged.

• 43:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, literally, we are just making shit up because this is how we feel it is.

• 43:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I mean, that's a possibility too, because if if she had been seen a psychiatrist and told the psychiatrist, like, hey, you know,

• 43:19Bunnie XO?

  He's touching me here, like,

• 43:20Speaker 01

  Wouldn't it be like? The state would have to, I don't know. I don't know how the law works. I'm kind of talking as if I do, but I don't.

• 43:26Bunnie XO?

  I don't know. I don't know if a step parent really, I don't, I know, we don't have a lot of rights as being a step parent, so.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  That's why I'm wondering if this had nothing to do with that, or if really they couldn't come up with a case.

• 43:36Bunnie XO?

  Or if it's a HIPAA violation because she's a child, she's underage, and there's nobody there to approve the medical records being released.

• 43:44Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, I mean, but she would go into custody of, yeah. So they would be able to pull. This whole, this whole case is crazy to me. Uh, the fact that they weren't able to pull any type of, because here's the thing, here's uh my opinion. I do feel like maybe.

• 44:04Speaker 01

  What she ended up getting was a little harsh. But at the same time, if you're not gonna pull the insanity card. That's kind of what I feel like the only other option is.

• 44:14Bunnie XO?

  Well, let's talk about the trial real quick. So Carly during all the replays of like her mom. Barely even cried.

• 44:22Speaker 01

  Like when did she cry?

• 44:24Bunnie XO?

  Showed no emotion at all, but the most emotion that she did show was when her stepfather.

• 44:32Speaker 01

  The body cams of the stepfather. What the?

• 44:36Bunnie XO?

  Which shows me that there's an emotional tie with that man.

• 44:40Speaker 01

  Something definitely is there because. You having literal breakdowns and if you watch like snot pouring from her nose break down.

• 44:49Bunnie XO?

  Hyperventilating.

• 44:50Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 44:50Bunnie XO?

  Breakdown. Like she felt so much remorse for hurting her stepfather, but could care less about her mom.

• 44:56Speaker 01

  Not at all.

• 44:57Bunnie XO?

  You're the mother who fucking is your blood.

• 45:00Speaker 01

  Yes. Who has raised you also, like is crazy to me that and the way he eyeballs her.

• 45:07Bunnie XO?

  And mouths, I love you.

• 45:09Speaker 01

  Like weird.

• 45:11Bunnie XO?

  First of all, if you killed somebody I supposedly loved and was with for a decade. And then you not only killed her, you shot me too and tried to kill me too. I don't think the words that I would be saying to you are, I love you with a smile. A creepy smile.

• 45:28Speaker 01

  And the way he just looks at her in court.

• 45:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it was so strange and I see, I saw a couple of people in the argue in the comments arguing. And they were like, well, maybe he just realizes she's a child and you know that she's about to go to prison for the rest of her life. And I'm just like.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  If someone tried to kill me, I don't give a fuck.

• 45:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, go to prison like, I don't know, it just is not adding up. It does not make sense. And I really feel like the stepfather should be investigated. Text messages between them, pull more of those cameras at the house and see what we can find. Go back like a year or two.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  Well, I don't know if they keep a year's worth, but at least like. Prior conversations they had, how they interacted with each other on the daily, but how they interact that morning before they were leaving.

• 46:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. During the trial, some of her friends even testified that she was on numerous drugs too. So you have to think this girl's taken antipsychotics. She's taking Lexapro and she's on various drugs, which we don't know what they are. But especially like in the vapes, you don't know what you're getting these days with these kids.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  No.

• 46:29Bunnie XO?

  Bailey's had kids overdose at her school just from hitting a vape.

• 46:32Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 46:32Bunnie XO?

  You know, so it's like you don't know where this girl's mind really was. Yes, she was cold. Yes, she was borderline uh calculated with some of the things she did, but it was also a crime of passion, which makes it so weird. There's like just a smorgasbord of.

• 46:46Speaker 01

  It's a fifty fifty for me.

• 46:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 46:48Speaker 01

  You definitely planned some of it, but in the other sense of it, I'm like, are you really that stupid?

• 46:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So with all the footage and the testimony, um they ended up sentencing her to life in prison for murder without parole, life in prison for attempted murder without parole, plus ten more years for tampering with evidence. Which, what's the tampering? Putting the towel over her mom's face?

• 47:11Speaker 01

  Probably towel and who knows what else? She could have probably, you know.

• 47:15Bunnie XO?

  Moved the mom's body or something?

• 47:16Speaker 01

  Like if she was in there for a while, she definitely was within the crime scene. So she was doing something.

• 47:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:23Bunnie XO?

  So after the, after her sentencing, the stepfather spoke out and he had a statement. So let's read what the stepfather had to say. He said, I am ashamed. I'm embarrassed. I'm angry. I'm upset. And I'm very sad. I loved Ashley Smiley too. We were married for almost a decade.

• 47:45Bunnie XO?

  And yeah, he didn't comment about

• 47:51Bunnie XO?

  anything else. You would think that he would comment on telling her I love her during

• 48:03Bunnie XO?

  the trial. Yep, I'm just skimming through this. Yeah, that's all he said.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  That is so strange to me.

• 48:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  I would, I am very anxious to see how this plays out. This does play out because there is bound to be more evidence that gets released to the public. Once all of this becomes public, I would love to see more about, you know, him taking the stand versus, you know, her taking the stand.

• 48:27Bunnie XO?

  He did take the stand.

• 48:28Speaker 01

  But I mean, like just, it's very interesting what evidence.

• 48:31Bunnie XO?

  I want to know what happened. I want to know what happened at home. Like, let's go through those phone records.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:36Bunnie XO?

  Let's go through those fucking counseling's therapy sessions because.

• 48:42Bunnie XO?

  Lyle and Eric Menendez confided in their therapist about the rapes and stuff like that.

• 48:47Speaker 01

  But she didn't go to therapy for long. It literally says that she went very temporarily and then the mom never followed back up on it.

• 48:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so do we think that the mom never followed back up on it or did Carly reveal something that the mom didn't like?

• 48:59Speaker 01

  That's

• 49:00Bunnie XO?

  You know, like we'd never know.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  Speculation.

• 49:02Bunnie XO?

  Pure speculation. But yeah, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, the story of Carly Gregg.

• 49:10Speaker 01

  How do you feel about her sentencing?

• 49:13Bunnie XO?

  You know, at first, when I first heard it, I still don't think that she should get life. I s- I think that she's a really messed up child, you know, and I think that she's just gonna be another fucking statistic. Um, but you know, uh, it's crazy because then it's like, can somebody like that be her rehabilitated?

• 49:37Speaker 01

  No, I, I, I do feel like she should be within some type of cap, not captivity, cut that. Cut that, some type of.

• 49:45Bunnie XO?

  Leave it in, I thought it was hilarious.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, that's what I feel like, I feel.

• 49:49Bunnie XO?

  She needs some sort of supervision.

• 49:51Speaker 01

  Yes, uh, uh, the rest of her life, you know, like there's a chemical imbalance in there that I don't believe can be fixed.

• 49:58Bunnie XO?

  I feel like she's gonna come out with the truth in like a year or two. I think she's gonna come forward and be like, yes, I was molested. Yes, we were having a fear. Yes, he fucking helped me.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  The minute he moves on.

• 50:09Bunnie XO?

  The minute he moves on.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  It's all gonna come out.

• 50:12Bunnie XO?

  Doesn't pay her fucking commissary or something. It's gonna be crazy, dude.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  Yep, something, something's gonna be her trigger, like this murder was, and she's going to just give it.

• 50:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, I agree. What are you guys' thoughts at home on this entire case? Let us know in the comments and also, yeah, let's, um, I'm looking forward to doing more of these. This, I, this is my favorite month.

• 50:36Speaker 01

  Happy October, guys.

• 50:37Bunnie XO?

  I know. Happy frickin' October, babies. All right, you ready to go watch daddy bring the house down?

• 50:43Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 50:44Bunnie XO?

  All right, we gotta go. We got a show to do, babies. Love you guys. Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  Bye.