847. Andy, Devin Johnson & DJ CTI: Jake Tapper Co-Authors New Book About Cover-Up Of Biden's Decline, Epstein Client List & Goku: Artificial Intelligence

On today's episode, Andy & DJ are joined in the studio by SalesAi CEO, Devin Johnson. They discuss Jake Tapper co-authoring a new book that covered-up Joe Biden's mental decline, Epstein's client list being released with names redacted, and Goku, the Chinese open-source model challenging OpenAI and the U. S.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:16Andy Frisella?

  What is up guys? It's Andy Frisella and this is the show for the realist. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys. Today we have Andy and DJ Cruz, the motherfucking internet. That's what we're gonna do. That is what CTI stands for, stands for Cruz the internet. We're gonna put topics on the screen. We're gonna speculate on what is true and what is not true. And then we're gonna talk about how we, the people, are gonna solve some of these problems going on in the world. I'm just gonna get right into it, bro. Get right into it. We got one of the homies here, Devin Johnson, Sales AI, the arch enemy. This is a good buddy of mine. If you guys don't know,

• 0:58Andy Frisella?

  he owns an AI company, Sales AI, number 438 on Inc's 5000 list. So you guys are killing it. You're a young man. How old are you? 28. 28 years old. Yes. Paving the way with AI, bro. It's pretty cool. Yeah. Running a real company. Yeah, exactly. Not rug pulls on meme coins. Yeah. Yeah, no shit. Not coaching courses on how to suck balls.

• 1:22Andy Frisella?

  It's discounted right now, too.

• 1:26Andy Frisella?

  You know, everybody's stealing your course. Yeah. You innovated that field. You know, listen. Ball sucking. But pay me. Yeah. But anyway, we got some things we're gonna talk about today about we, you know, we talk consistently about AI and the impact that's gonna have. And we're gonna get to that for sure. But you know, we're gonna keep it real with CTI. And before we get into that, man, like, just so people kind of know what you do and how you got here and everything, give them, you know, a 90 second rundown of who you are and what you do. And yeah. So from Indianapolis, Indiana, grew up in a suburb called New Palestine, Indiana, 30 minutes east of downtown. Grew up, my mom worked three

• 2:08Andy Frisella?

  jobs, keep me in a good school. Dad was incarcerated for 12 years. Got out, found out quickly, he was a street pharmacist. That's how he broke it down to me. So Street pharmacist. Yeah. That's a new, that's a new Lego right there. So That's what white people call it.

• 2:25Andy Frisella?

  I never knew my dad. I didn't know what to call him. They call him gone. He's just gone. He was a street illusionist.

• 2:36Andy Frisella?

  Like David Blaine almost. Yeah. Street pharmacist.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, so mom and dad never married. Got to see two different sides of the aisle. You know, hardworking mom to barely put food on the table and, and my dad that had money come so fast. He didn't know what to do with it. Ultimately, it was his demise. You know, overdosed and got caught up in the crazy. So growing up, I, I knew I wanted the, the money, the lifestyle. Didn't know how. So I got into entrepreneurship. I started by flipping sneakers. So I resold Nikes, Jordans, Yeezys. I got my start on a scooter and I would do Craigslist deals back in the day. So Craigslist was like Facebook Marketplace for, um, back in, before.

• 3:18Andy Frisella?

  Is Craigslist still around?

• 3:20Speaker 01

  It is, but it's scary.

• 3:21Andy Frisella?

  Is it just like Close Encounters? Like, hey, I saw you at the grocery store.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  Bro, it's, it's scary what it is now. I've, I've went on there just, just curious what it is nowadays. But, uh, yeah, just hustled my way, uh, up to getting my first car. And then I was doing sneaker trade shows and, and then after high school graduated, um, and got into digital marketing because sneakers, it was my first adversity. So everything used to release in stores that was exclusive, but then it went to apps only. So Nike would release their shoes on their app, et cetera, et cetera. Every brand.

• 3:57Andy Frisella?

  Like on GO and stuff like that?

• 3:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. GO is actually a reseller platform. Uh, so those are authorized resellers or guys like me or you that have exclusive shoes that want to sell, but they verify them to make sure you're buying real, uh, shoes. But, um, yeah, once that happened, it was very hard to get inventory and everyone knows in business, no inventory, no sales, right? So that was my first real adversity. I got into digital marketing, had three failed businesses. And then my first success was a company called Connected. Um, it was a LinkedIn recruiting automation platform for corporations, uh, ranging from small to enterprise. We grew that business to a couple hundred employees. Uh, had a sale event in October of 2023.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  And we took some of the framework that we originally were building into connected and wrapped it into what we call sales AI now. We were in the early days of AI with the the previous products. So it wasn't new to us, but we knew, you know, basic business philosophy, right? For me is when there's a gold mine, manufacture shovels. So I like to build tech platforms that people can easily use the best of the best. And so we put everything we had into creating the easiest platform to actually make money with artificial intelligence. So sales AI is AI agents to take inbound phone calls, work leads and set qualified appointments

• 5:24Speaker 01

  for your sales team, but also handle inbound customer support, ticket filings, orders, refunds, et cetera, et cetera.

• 5:32Andy Frisella?

  Cool. So that's awesome, bro. And, you know, you guys, Devin's been here before. We're friends. Yeah. You know, your family guy, man of faith.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, man of faith, married, two kids, between work, kids in miscellaneous hobbies, in church. That's all I do. Very boring guy. It's very routine. So.

• 5:55Andy Frisella?

  Well, most successful people are.

• 5:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:57Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. How, how, how old were you when you, when you started the sneaker game?

• 6:00Speaker 01

  Fifteen.

• 6:02Andy Frisella?

  Fifteen years old, man.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. It's fifteen. So there was a life event that kickstarted it, but I was trying to respect the 90 seconds. So.

• 6:11Andy Frisella?

  Oh, yeah. You're good.

• 6:12Speaker 01

  The life.

• 6:12Andy Frisella?

  We got plenty of time.

• 6:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. So the life event that happened to kickstart selling sneakers, it wasn't like I woke up and was like, I'm motivated to go make money. So my sister was diagnosed with metastatic blastoma, brain cancer. And when that happened, my dad was an individual that ran from problems versus facing them. So there's another key lesson I learned young and left my mom high and dry for over a year. My mom had to move into the hospital to take care of my sister. So my sister was in Riley Children's Hospital for over a year. My mom lived at the Riley home, which is like apartments inside the hospital for kids that have to have long. Long-term care and she would come home, make sure I didn't miss events or whatever.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  But I basically lived between grandparents and on my own for a year and a half. And I was like, I gotta figure out how to help my mom in this situation financially. So, um, my dad would always buy me shoes. So any birthday suck up gift, I missed the game, which was every game. I had a long story short, I had a lot of shoes that I knew had some value. So I sold my Jordans, they were all retros. Anyone listening probably knows like the bread 11, I had like pair of those, all the cool grays, the Concord. So like I had fresh shoes in school, like, you know?

• 7:34Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  I sold all those, I had about $2,000 to work with. And then my first resale pair was LeBron All-Star Pack. I, I got my hands on that back in the day. Um, this is one of the first shoes someone got killed over in public. So, uh, fun fact.

• 7:51Andy Frisella?

  Damn.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. So that, that's how it kickstarted it. Then I got addicted to it.

• 7:56Andy Frisella?

  Man.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  I got addicted to making money hustling. It was really cool being 15 and your friends are like, oh, my mom went, give me 20 bucks to go to the mall. And I pull out, you know, $5,000. Like I was addicted to that.

• 8:09Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 8:09Speaker 01

  I did build a very bad ego in high school and I quickly got that knocked down going into real business. I'll post high school. But yeah, I, I got addicted to making money and being able to stay on my own.

• 8:24Andy Frisella?

  That's awesome, dude. Young gun, man.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:27Andy Frisella?

  I love it, dude. I love it. Now we're going to talk more about AI, what it's going to do to the world, how we're going to coexist with it as we get into the show, but you know, the show, you listen to the show, we're going to go through current events. We're going to talk some shit.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  I'm on demon time today.

• 8:42Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I know. You're upset.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:44Andy Frisella?

  DJ's mad.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  I'm pissed.

• 8:46Andy Frisella?

  He's, he's hungry.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Might be, might need his stickers.

• 8:51Andy Frisella?

  How's training going DJ?

• 8:53Speaker 02

  Good, training's good.

• 8:54Andy Frisella?

  You're looking better.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  Thanks, man. Sleeping better, sleeping better.

• 8:56Andy Frisella?

  You, you, uh, you been tracking your progress?

• 8:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, uh, well, uh, yeah.

• 9:00Andy Frisella?

  Or just kinda going, just doing it?

• 9:02Speaker 02

  Well, you, like, anybody, like, and this is, I've learned this from you, right? But like, I mean, when you're like getting into it, right? Like, you know, cause I, I've done this multiple times. It's like, that scale can be a motherfucker, you know? And like, not much you will see move on it for the first fucking three weeks, four weeks, really, you know? Um, I've just been, you know, head down grinding, bro.

• 9:22Andy Frisella?

  Good.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  You know?

• 9:23Andy Frisella?

  It's working.

• 9:24Speaker 02

  Um, I appreciate it, man. And, uh, yeah.

• 9:27Andy Frisella?

  Devin, you, you've, uh, recomped your physique as well, right?

• 9:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I've done seventy-five hard twice.

• 9:34Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Uh, shout out Andy. Um, and, and for the listeners, I'll tell you, seventy-five hard is truly a mental program. It, fitness benefits, but honestly, that program built a lot of disciplines that carried into business for me. Just a side plug for, for the seventy-five hard program. But yes, I completed it twice. Um, my heaviest was three twelve. I just did your in-body over in the gym. I'm two fourteen point one four today.

• 10:02Andy Frisella?

  Fuck, that's all ninety-eight pounds, bro.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:04Andy Frisella?

  That's amazing.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  And.

• 10:05Andy Frisella?

  You look great.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  I appreciate it.

• 10:07Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  And then my body fat percentage highest that I can remember was like thirty-eight percent. And, uh, seventeen percent today.

• 10:15Andy Frisella?

  That's badass, dude.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  That's fucking sick, man.

• 10:17Andy Frisella?

  You look even better than the last time I saw you. Like, it's, yeah, and it's considerably better.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:23Andy Frisella?

  So.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 10:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, bro. Alright, man, well, let's fucking, let's, let's get rested.

• 10:31Speaker 02

  Let's get into it, man. Um, I did wanna bring this up, I mean, cause I don't really know what to feel about it, what, what it is. Uh, you seen, uh, Gene Hackman?

• 10:40Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I did see that.

• 10:41Speaker 02

  What the fuck was that? So, so Jake, Oscar winner Gene Hackman wife, Betsy, uh, Aracua, Aracua. Uh, and their dog were dead for some time, weren't shows. Yeah, they, they, they just like found, found him like dead in the house, man. And, um, you know, they originally, like, it came out that it was like, there was no, like, uh, you know, wrongdoing or anything, you know, nefarious was suspected. But it's just weird circumstances. Like, now they're seeing like the position and how they found him and like, it's weird. But like, you know, dude's been in Damn to every movie.

• 11:15Andy Frisella?

  Oh, yeah. Tremendous actor, tremendous career.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:18Andy Frisella?

  One of my favorite actors.

• 11:19Speaker 02

  No shit.

• 11:19Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:20Andy Frisella?

  He's badass in everything he does.

• 11:22Speaker 02

  I always liked him in all of the movies, man. I thought he was, I thought he was pretty sweet.

• 11:25Andy Frisella?

  He was a good villain.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was.

• 11:27Andy Frisella?

  Like a scary villain, like composed and like just no bullshit. I always liked him as a villain.

• 11:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:34Andy Frisella?

  Fucking Lex Luthor, bro.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:36Speaker 01

  And you have like you'd always be the villain if you got.

• 11:39Andy Frisella?

  In a movie?

• 11:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, you'd always be.

• 11:41Andy Frisella?

  Bro, I think I'd be a good one.

• 11:42Speaker 01

  I do too.

• 11:43Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, like fucking put me in some shit. You know, like I, I think I'd be a good like.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  Spandex or no spandex though?

• 11:50Andy Frisella?

  I mean, it just depends, man. It depends on what the paycheck says. You know what I'm saying?

• 11:55Speaker 01

  They added zero spandex.

• 11:56Speaker 02

  That's right, spandex. I'm down, man.

• 11:58Andy Frisella?

  I think I could do some, some evil villain movie work. I'm a pretty good actor.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  I feel like you would be the villain though that people would like.

• 12:05Andy Frisella?

  They'd still like him.

• 12:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, like you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, I know why he's a villain. Like it makes sense. You know what I'm saying?

• 12:10Speaker 01

  You'd be like the Joker, right?

• 12:12Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, people could get it.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  People love the Joker.

• 12:15Andy Frisella?

  You know what I would be? You ever seen Falling Down?

• 12:18Speaker 02

  No.

• 12:19Andy Frisella?

  That's what I would be.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  What's that?

• 12:21Speaker 01

  I haven't seen it either, sorry.

• 12:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, well, you guys are, Falling Down, it's, uh, Michael Douglas. You really haven't seen it? It's fucking great.

• 12:28Speaker 02

  He's 28, bro. I'm 29. I ain't seen it, he ain't seen it. That sounds like.

• 12:31Andy Frisella?

  I have a feeling that, that he's seen more movies than you.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  You think so?

• 12:35Andy Frisella?

  Have you seen Days of Thunder?

• 12:36Speaker 01

  I have seen Days of Thunder.

• 12:38Andy Frisella?

  Damn it. That's all I gotta know.

• 12:39Speaker 01

  Fuck. Yeah.

• 12:42Andy Frisella?

  So anyway.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 12:43Andy Frisella?

  R I P.

• 12:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:44Andy Frisella?

  Gene Hackman, tremendous career.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  No, he was like 93.

• 12:48Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I mean, like, it really doesn't matter, but like, whoa, he's fucking old, man. Like, I'm sorry.

• 12:53Speaker 01

  He was 95.

• 12:54Andy Frisella?

  If, yeah, if someone's 95, if I'm 95 and someone kills me, don't be that mad about it, is what it is.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  I lived a full life.

• 13:00Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, 95.

• 13:02Andy Frisella?

  They probably did me a favor. Dude, uh, what is weird about his wife and his dog, and they found a bunch of pain pills.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  Pain pills and shit.

• 13:10Andy Frisella?

  First I saw it and I was like, well, maybe she killed herself. He, he died, she killed herself and they left the dog and, and it said it was weeks before they found him.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:19Andy Frisella?

  But, I mean, bro, now they're saying.

• 13:23Speaker 03

  Now they're saying it's suspicious, right?

• 13:24Speaker 02

  It's suspicious, yeah. Yeah, so I mean, it's weird. I don't know, man. It's weird. I saw some pictures that they probably couldn't find them again, but like some, I guess more recent pictures of them, man. You didn't look that good, you know?

• 13:34Speaker 03

  Fucking ninety-five.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  Ninety-five, yeah, you know, so, yeah, R I P.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  Great life, dude. Yeah. Got to do some cool shit.

• 13:42Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, man, let's get into some of these headlines, guys. Let's knock these out. Remember, if you want to see any of these pictures, articles, links, videos, go to andyfacello.com. You guys can find them all linked there. With that being said, let's get into our first segment, headline number one. Jake Tapper is entering the show today. CNN's Jake Tapper co-authors new book about cover-up of ex-president Biden's decline despite previously waving off age of concerns. Did you see this?

• 14:13Speaker 03

  No.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, so Jake Tapper, you know, CNN guy. He is now a co-author of a new book that is detailing the lengths to which the Biden administration and its allies engaged in a cover-up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline. Even though he was like one of the main proponents of covering up Biden's decline. It's like, it's like asking like OJ to help you find the killer. You know what I'm saying? It's like.

• 14:42Speaker 03

  Well, OJ did write a book. He called, he wrote a book called If I Did It. Yeah.

• 14:48Speaker 03

  Like he, you know what I'm saying? Like.

• 14:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was like, bro, why you do it? Like, what are you, what are you doing? And like, dude, they got him on, like, I mean, I have a little video here. This is like a little collage of Jake, Jake Tapper's position. Let's check this out.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?

• 15:07Speaker 04

  It's very clearly a cognitive decline.

• 15:10Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 15:10Speaker 04

  That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  You have, you are no, I can't, this is so amazing. It's so amazing to me that, that.

• 15:18Speaker 04

  And try and figure out an answer.

• 15:19Speaker 03

  A cognitive decline. Biden embraces his stutter, talking about it while Trump mocks it, exaggerates it, belittles it. He's sharp physically. I mean, mentally. Yeah. I think the question is physically, right? Right. More so? Right. Right. And the guy. was his chief opponent is only three or four years younger than him. Exactly. I mean, you have questioned President Biden's age, mental fitness, ability to lead of those supporting Biden. You said, quote, shame on all of you pretending everything is okay. You're leading us and him into a disaster. Do you worry that you damaged him at all? I don't doubt that that you got hugs and and handshakes behind closed doors today and maybe even publicly some of them because they like you personally. But I've heard a lot of really nasty stuff about you from your Democratic colleagues. Sure.

• 16:01Speaker 03

  I mean, just like, what is he thinking? Exercised narcissism? I mean, false claims to the Wall Street Journal about President Biden's mental fitness and acuity. He's 81 and his memory, you know, it doesn't seem great. It's not horrible, but I don't understand the outrage. Quote, behind closed doors, Biden shows signs of slipping, unquote. The Wall Street Journal is owned by News Corp., which is run by the Murdochs. Beyond the headline, there is some critical nuance here. The article is mostly based on observations of Republicans with former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, the only one going on the record. They do note in the article that most of the criticism comes from Republicans. Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met with President Biden about?

• 16:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. So he does that and then now he has a book out. Original sin. President Biden's decline, its cover up and his disastrous choice to run again.

• 16:51Andy Frisella?

  Well, I mean, what better guy to write a book about it than the guy who actually covered it up? You know what I'm saying? Like, what do you think?

• 17:00Speaker 02

  I mean, it's fucking, it's stupid. But I mean, not even just that. Like, here's a conversation nobody's having. Like, all of the stuff, like, what else was covered up from the Bidens? You know, like, it just came out, uh, just, just today, I believe, or yesterday, actually, that there's a Texas nonprofit, uh, with, uh, one of Biden transition team members, uh, who's on it and who runs it. Um, yeah, they reaped in millions of dollars, like hundreds of millions of dollars. Uh, in 2020, they recorded 8.3 million dollars in investments and, uh, 2023, that number was up to 520 million dollars.

• 17:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. You know where that money came from?

• 17:40Speaker 02

  Us.

• 17:41Andy Frisella?

  Now, but you know where it was hidden? It was hidden in that, all that money they sent to, to Ukraine.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 17:47Andy Frisella?

  Guaranteed dude.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  Dude, well like, and what's even crazier is that like,

• 17:51Andy Frisella?

  Remember when I said that over and over and over that they were trying to milk the money out before that they knew they were getting out? So they're trying to take as much out.

• 17:57Speaker 02

  A big dump, yeah, right before.

• 17:58Andy Frisella?

  And then USAID comes out and says, yeah, we're funding half the world media and we're funding all these NGOs and all these charities. You know, we give Soros $260 million for his, uh, you know, open, uh, society foundation.

• 18:13Speaker 02

  And he turns and uses that for prosecutors and fucking.

• 18:15Andy Frisella?

  Bro, it's crazy. We've been, we've been, we've had our own tax dollars weaponized against us. Fucking insane.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Bro, well, like the other piece of it too, let me see where is it at? The other piece of like, so since March of 2024, uh, HHS has paid $18 million per month to this facility in Pay, and, and Picos, Texas, um, and there's nobody there.

• 18:43Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 18:44Speaker 02

  Like no, nobody's even, nobody's there.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  Answers, please.

• 18:47Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, they'll never get them.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:49Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Everybody's guilty, bro.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 18:51Andy Frisella?

  It's, it's, it's not just Democrats. It's, there's Republicans too.

• 18:55Speaker 02

  It's, it's both sides of the aisle. Nobody's ready for.

• 18:57Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, dude, that's what I'm saying. And these guys, this is the system, dude. They come in, they all know the secret handshakes and the backdoor deals and how it works. And this is why we have so many people that go into government and never come out and why the government currently attracts the kind of people that it does, you know, we don't have a bunch of patriots up there, guys. Like, we don't have the best and brightest. We don't have the people who are building culture and society, serving in our government. For the most part, we might have a couple of people, but I mean, what, what, two percent of them?

• 19:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:32Andy Frisella?

  I mean.

• 19:32Speaker 02

  Very, very.

• 19:33Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. So I mean, like, you know, you know, crockery attracts crooks. You know what I'm saying? And, uh, Crime attracts criminals and, and these people are fucking snakes and we all know it, but you know, nothing's being done about it. And I don't, I'm losing faith that anything's gonna be done about it.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, like where would you start though? You know, there's so much that's been done to this point. It's like, like everyone at some point is probably dipped their hand in the cookie jar, you know?

• 20:05Andy Frisella?

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:06Speaker 01

  It, it'd be like the whole government would have to

• 20:09Andy Frisella?

  For sure.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  Under siege.

• 20:10Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, but I mean, that's, that might be what it takes.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:14Andy Frisella?

  You know, I, I know that's, that sounds crazy, but you know, this, this is what fuels revolution, dude. When you have a, a small amount of people that oppress a large amount of people, eventually the large amount of people figure out that they're a large amount of people and revolutions happen. And these people, I believe are playing with fire. I, I, I believe that a revolution in this country is on the horizon if the current administration doesn't drastically clean things up, which, you know, I'm hopeful for. I said I would give 90 days to see what happens. There's things happening that are decent, but

• 20:54Andy Frisella?

  you know, I want to see some arrests, dude. I want to see some people held accountable. I want to, I want to be able to trust that we're going to prosecute criminals, not just, you know, the citizen criminals, but the government criminals too.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:07Andy Frisella?

  And, uh, you know, there's an unfair double standard going on in this country and it's not between, uh, you know, different races. It's between social classes. And, you know, I know you guys, you know, you might say, well, you're in that class. No, I'm not in that class. I'm not a political, I'm not in the political ruling class. I'm an entrepreneur. You're an entrepreneur.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  Right.

• 21:30Andy Frisella?

  Trust me, if we were in the political ruling class, shit would be a lot easier to be in business. You know what I mean? Um, but these people can't create, so they steal our shit.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:41Andy Frisella?

  And that's what we're dealing with, man. And it's not Democrats only. I think it's heavily Democrat, but I think there's a lot of Republicans that understand what's going on that aren't willing to do anything about it. Because dude, it's like, you know, it's like we say on the show, man, attorneys a- a- all, all run together, dude. Like when you get in a lawsuit. Most people have never been into lawsuits. They don't know what it's actually like.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  Like how it works.

• 22:06Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, like, like people are, I'm gonna sue that person for this and this and this. And it's like, dude, here's what's gonna happen. You know, these stories that you read about where someone gets fifty million dollars, that's like the point zero zero zero zero one percent of lawsuits. In most lawsuits, what happens is you hire an attorney, that attorney files a case.

• 22:29Andy Frisella?

  The other person's attorney knows your attorney. They get on the phone and they say, and they do a strategy talk. They say, "Hey DJ, I got a guy, I got, I got Devin over here. He wants to sue your client."

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Oh, he wants to not?

• 22:41Andy Frisella?

  He's pretty fucking pissed.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:43Andy Frisella?

  Um, you know, I think he's got a pretty good case. Uh, but I think we should make him walk through all the process and you guys should wait to settle because dude, we'll both get paid. You know, those conversations happen.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 22:56Andy Frisella?

  And people don't believe that. Why do you think these motherfuckers play golf together? Why do you think they go to dinner together? Why are they having cocktail parties together? Exactly. And we ain't in it.

• 23:04Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:05Andy Frisella?

  And, bro, the, the biggest

• 23:10Andy Frisella?

  group of unethical attorneys lives in Washington DC. So if you guys think that these people don't know what's actually been going on on both sides, they fucking know.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  They're neighbors.

• 23:19Andy Frisella?

  Now, there's some people that have come in in the last few years that maybe have come in because they actually care. Uh, I know a couple. I can speak to, to a couple personally. But I mean, it's, it's the, it's, it's the exception of the rule.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:36Andy Frisella?

  You know?

• 23:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. This shit, it's wild. I just thought that was interesting, man. So Jake Tapper's doing a little OJ.

• 23:42Andy Frisella?

  And these guys are all together. Like, how, how do you ever get rid of it? How do you get it out?

• 23:46Speaker 01

  That was my point. Is like, they're all, they publicly take one position. Behind closed doors, it's mutual.

• 23:57Andy Frisella?

  Bro, I've heard that from people who were up there or people who have been up there like in office that aren't anymore. Straight to my face, tell me, they're like, bro, it's all acting.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  I mean, have you seen House of Cards?

• 24:09Andy Frisella?

  No, I don't.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  I have, it's actually, yeah.

• 24:10Andy Frisella?

  Is that how it is?

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Oh, go watch it.

• 24:13Andy Frisella?

  Well, dude, he, uh, one of my buddies who was an elect, a pretty high up elected official, he's no longer in elected government. I mean, he's like, dude, we'll, we'll sit in a room and we'll walk out. And they'll say, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. And I'll say, well, fuck them. And we planned on doing that.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:31Andy Frisella?

  It's like, it's like fucking wrestling.

• 24:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:32Andy Frisella?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 24:33Speaker 01

  WWE.

• 24:34Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, yeah. But they both, the deal was made in the back door where they both get, they both get something.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:40Andy Frisella?

  And that's, that's not okay, man. That's not what this country's about.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  That's the problem. When everybody's in on the take, I can't fucking call them out because then that's going to expose me fucking on the take.

• 24:48Andy Frisella?

  Bro, and that's the other part of it. They get, they get everybody's hands dirty so that there's evidence against everybody. And the person who blows the whistle gets hit the hardest and everybody else denies it.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, guys, I, yeah, I mean, O G, uh, O J Tapper.

• 25:06Andy Frisella?

  You know how they get them too, right?

• 25:08Speaker 02

  Through the, through the blackmail shit?

• 25:10Andy Frisella?

  Oh yeah, but you know how they get them though, right?

• 25:13Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 25:13Andy Frisella?

  They send hot girls to get them.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:15Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, that's how they get all these dudes. They send them like these super hot, uh, like females.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  Fang, Fang?

• 25:21Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Well, I mean, dude, they're, they're fucking, they're spies.

• 25:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:24Andy Frisella?

  And they send them and these fucking spies have sex with these dudes and then they got them. And that's, that's how they get them.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. Yeah, guys, jump into this conversation. Let us know what you guys think down in the comments. With that being said, let's go check some of the chat out. Got Cruz's comments. Yeah, this first one.

• 25:44Andy Frisella?

  My favorite part.

• 25:45Speaker 02

  Is Cruz's comments?

• 25:46Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  All right. Um, well, you're gonna love this first one. Uh, this first comment is from Angel OC 63 S 48. Sure.

• 25:56Andy Frisella?

  Sounds like a real man.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Yep. Good morning, you handsome motherfuckers. Love you guys for making my life better.

• 26:01Andy Frisella?

  Oh, it's definitely a real person then.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. Say it.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  Did you write, did you write?

• 26:07Andy Frisella?

  Was he you?

• 26:09Andy Frisella?

  I mean, I could see if they just called me handsome. You know what I'm saying?

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:15Andy Frisella?

  It had to have been.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  Joe, that's who it was. Alright, well, uh, thanks.

• 26:18Andy Frisella?

  Angelo.

• 26:19Speaker 02

  Oh, it's, oh.

• 26:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, see, that's Angelo.

• 26:22Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 26:23Andy Frisella?

  Angelo.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  Angelo.

• 26:25Andy Frisella?

  Angelo. What kind of name is that?

• 26:29Speaker 02

  Italian.

• 26:29Andy Frisella?

  That is Italian.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Italian.

• 26:30Andy Frisella?

  What other kind of name is that?

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Not Italian?

• 26:33Andy Frisella?

  That's right. There's only two kinds of people named Angelo. One of them's Italian.

• 26:39Speaker 02

  And one of them is on child support.

• 26:44Speaker 02

  Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you. Uh, we got another comment. This is from at Fighter Flight Fitness. Fight or Flight Fitness?

• 26:53Andy Frisella?

  Fighter Flight.

• 26:54Speaker 02

  Blue hair got done list. Cried about Andy, cried about DJ, made it to the podcast, Kamala sensed a lot of real shit. Cried about Andy and DJ some more.

• 27:04Andy Frisella?

  Well. That's the everyday menu around here.

• 27:07Speaker 02

  That's it. That's, that's, that's, that's blue hair for sure. Uh, blue hair for sure. We got one more comment. This is from, uh, at Steven.

• 27:15Speaker 02

  De La Fuente is sixty-three twenty-one. A little spice on this one. He says, uh, please bring back the tier list segment. The last one was absolute comedy. Alright, so what's our next debate?

• 27:24Andy Frisella?

  You mean the rating french fries?

• 27:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, rating french fries. So what we gotta do?

• 27:27Andy Frisella?

  Bro, I, I love how, like, dude, we sit in here. Look, bro. We sit in here. Devin, you know this shit. We sit here, we give all this entrepreneur advice, right? Twenty-five years of experience. I give it for fucking free. I help open everybody's eyes to all this shit. I don't get anything but shit for it, you know? All the fucking influencers, they get invited to Trump's castle and, and fucking, I don't even get an invite because once in a while I say some fucking real shit.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:54Andy Frisella?

  You know, that I don't like.

• 27:57Andy Frisella?

  And the thing that everybody likes the most of everything that we do is our french fry ranking.

• 28:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, dumb shit.

• 28:03Speaker 01

  Listen, the best french fries is very simple. It's rallies.

• 28:08Speaker 02

  Rowley's is, is Rowley's still around?

• 28:11Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  I just ate it in Florida.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  Really? Checkers and Rowley's, somebody commented that too. They were like, you guys didn't put Checkers and Rowley's?

• 28:17Andy Frisella?

  No, five, they were pissed about the Five Guys.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  A lot of people were pissed about Five Guys too, yeah. No, I mean, Rowley's is good, you know, Rowley's is good. I just, you know, I like my safety more, cause like, the only Rowley's here, bro, they're in the fucking shit, like.

• 28:31Andy Frisella?

  No, no, the one I went to, very fucking questionable.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  Okay, alright, yeah.

• 28:35Andy Frisella?

  But worth it.

• 28:36Speaker 02

  It's a safety concern.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  I pulled up in a car that definitely didn't belong there and was very, a lot of eyes.

• 28:43Andy Frisella?

  Bro, did I ever tell you the time I got lost in North St. Louis with my fucking Wraith?

• 28:46Speaker 02

  At the Walgreens?

• 28:47Andy Frisella?

  Yes. So dude, I was with my fucking tattoo artist. So my tattoo artist is a guy named Eric Marczenizen. He's the best in the world. He does black and gray only. He's, it's hard to get into him. Uh, so he comes to town and we're fucking tattooing up at the Four Seasons. And that's how he likes to do it. He likes to get like a hotel room and like, we fucking chill for like two days, order room service. You know, smoke a little bit, have fun. So he fucking ran out of latex gloves. So we had to go get latex gloves. And for those of you that don't know where the Four Seasons in St. Louis, it is right on the border of the area that you do not fucking, okay? Like you do not.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Great hotel, beautiful hotel.

• 29:28Andy Frisella?

  So, so I'm in the, I'm driving and I'm, you know, I don't know where the Walgreens is around there. And he fucking, you know, he's not from here and he's like, and so I let him like tell, like, alright, we go here, we go here. I'm like, where's the closest Walgreens? It'll take five minutes. That was a mistake. We should have went to the furthest Walgreens. So we end up like in this, like you know how in the north right there?

• 29:49Speaker 02

  I know exactly where you were.

• 29:50Andy Frisella?

  It's all section eight, right? Like, and it's like, it's like section eight, like you see in the movies.

• 29:56Speaker 02

  I'll tell you this, the Walgreens is on a street named Dr. Martin Luther King, which for those that don't know.

• 30:01Andy Frisella?

  You don't go there.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Any street in America named Dr. Martin Luther King, don't go there.

• 30:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, Indy's is also rough.

• 30:08Andy Frisella?

  So, bro, this is when the Wraith like first came out and I had a two-tone, cause that two-tone race were the shit when they first came out. I had the fucking silver top and the black sides. It was fucking pimpin'. So we're, we're cruising up through the, and I'm looking around and I'm like, fuck, this ain't good. And I'm thinking it in my head. I'm like, this ain't fucking good. I didn't say anything to him. And he, he looks at Pete, he goes, you know where we are? I'm like, no. So we, we find this Walgreens and we pull up, bro. And like, within 30 seconds, my car is surrounded by fucking 25 year old dudes that look like they're from the movie Friday.

• 30:47Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 30:49Andy Frisella?

  I haven't seen, there's no white people.

• 30:51Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 30:51Andy Frisella?

  Everybody's black. They're wearing, you know, like, white beaters and long ass shorts and shit and like,

• 30:57Speaker 02

  Jiboes.

• 30:58Andy Frisella?

  I'm like,

• 30:58Speaker 01

  Some pelly pel.

• 30:59Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Well, I don't even know. I don't know what the fuck, but it wasn't, it didn't, it looked scary. So,

• 31:05Speaker 02

  So, There was a lot of, uh, yeah, a lot of domestic terrorist.

• 31:08Andy Frisella?

  So, so I, you know, I always roll with my, with my piece in my cup holder, you know? So it was in there and, um, dude comes up, knocks on the window and I'm like, fuck. I'm like, I'm legit probably gonna get shot and have to shoot some people. Like he's in Walgreens, Eric's in Walgreens. I roll the window down and he's like, hey, man. He's like, is this the new Wraith? And I'm like, yeah. He's like, can I check it out? And I'm like, yeah. He's like, I just want to take some pictures. And I'm like, all right, cool. And they took some pictures. They fucking dab me up and they fucking went on. It was like, and it was cool.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, right.

• 31:44Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. But I was, I mean, I was definitely scared. It shows you, shows you.

• 31:49Speaker 02

  Never judge a book by its cover?

• 31:50Andy Frisella?

  It, it shows you, dude. They pound that fucking racist shit in your head. Like you should be scared of everybody. But I was scared. I was, but, and they were cool and they were nice. They just wanted to see the car.

• 32:01Speaker 01

  Uh, two days ago, I was down in Miami and I was in a, uh, 488. And there's these kids at a stoplight selling candy. And I roll my window down. I gave them a, I was like, come here and I'll support the hustle, you know? Young entrepreneur.

• 32:17Andy Frisella?

  I love that.

• 32:18Speaker 01

  And I gave them a hundred dollar bill.

• 32:19Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  Dude, they got so excited.

• 32:22Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 32:22Speaker 01

  They threw the candy and ran off.

• 32:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  I was like, where's my candy, bro?

• 32:28Andy Frisella?

  No candy.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Bro, they took off like, like it was like I gave them 10 million dollars.

• 32:33Andy Frisella?

  Oh yeah, bro.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  They were so excited.

• 32:35Andy Frisella?

  Remember that time we did that? Remember that? Remember we did that? We had a, we had a girl driving, uh, or selling lemonade. And we fucking went and bought some lemonade. It was good lemonade, too. Yeah, we were driving a lot Ferrari. It was fucking awesome.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:50Speaker 02

  A couple of those lemonade stands, bro. I had one in my neighborhood, like when we first moved in, I tried to do the same thing, but it tastes like, it tasted like shit.

• 32:56Andy Frisella?

  You, you had your own lemonade stand?

• 32:59Speaker 02

  Like, like some little kids, you know, doing a lemonade stand. I'm like, oh.

• 33:01Andy Frisella?

  You probably set one up across from them.

• 33:06Andy Frisella?

  DJ set up his Kool-Aid stand across the street.

• 33:10Andy Frisella?

  We'll see who owns this block.

• 33:14Speaker 02

  Right. What we call it, a street scientist, street pharmacist?

• 33:16Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm setting up, baby. That's what it is, man.

• 33:19Andy Frisella?

  DJ's over there.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  Kool-Aid with a kick.

• 33:21Andy Frisella?

  Serving that fucking lean, that scissor.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  Uh, guys, we appreciate you, man, for being real ass fans. Keep liking, commenting. Make sure you guys subscribe and hit that bell.

• 33:33Andy Frisella?

  You know what I wasn't looking for at that fucking Walgreens?

• 33:35Speaker 02

  What?

• 33:36Andy Frisella?

  White supremacists.

• 33:41Speaker 02

  It would've been a problem, man.

• 33:43Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, no shit, bro. You gotta watch out for them fucking white people.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. Guys, let's get to headline number two. Uh, got some more updates of some things going on in the Trump administration. Um, some cool things. Uh, you guys are both car guys, so this is, uh, it's actually an interesting topic here. Um, now who's screwed? EU fury as Trump 25% tariffs hit European stock market and panicking officials warn the block will react as firmly as possible after Donald said block was set up to screw the United States. Um, so, uh, a new tariff just went out to all European, uh, auto sales. And there's mass effects going on. European auto sales shares fell today after Donald Trump unveiled

• 34:27Speaker 02

  a plan to slap a 25% tariff on cars and other goods from the European Union last night. And brands like Stellantis, Ferrari, Audi, they're all getting anxious and all of their stocks are starting to see some, some issues here. But this was the first piece that came out. Uh, this, yeah, he called the European block. Um, he said that it was, uh, basically built to screw the United States. Um, I don't know how much that's gonna affect the car market and how that works, but I mean, anything on that?

• 34:59Andy Frisella?

  I got all the cars I want.

• 35:01Speaker 01

  Hey, I'm still working on it.

• 35:05Andy Frisella?

  I don't need any more cars.

• 35:07Speaker 01

  I'm still building, so.

• 35:09Andy Frisella?

  I mean, look, here's the good news. All the best cars have already been made. All the shit they're making now is this hybrid fucking bullshit.

• 35:16Speaker 01

  They sound like vacuums.

• 35:17Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, bro, it's terrible. Like, all my cars are like from, you know, 2000 to like, I mean, I got a couple of new ones, but like, all the good ones are from like 2000 to 2018.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  18 was the last good year.

• 35:31Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 35:32Speaker 01

  Unless you consider, SVJ was.

• 35:35Andy Frisella?

  SVJ is an awesome car.

• 35:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, but, you know, 25%, they'll probably just pass it along, so.

• 35:42Andy Frisella?

  I, I mean, if they really do that, I mean, I got about seven cars from Ferrari on order that are all gonna get fucking canceled because, I mean, I'm already paying a premium, you know, to, you know, like, it is what it is. I ain't paying 25% more. It ain't happening. They're gonna have to lower their price.

• 36:00Speaker 02

  That's a shit ton. Yeah, that's a shit ton, man.

• 36:03Andy Frisella?

  I don't know, it depends on how, it just depends on how much of the market we consume of those cars.

• 36:08Speaker 01

  The market on cars is already really down.

• 36:10Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 36:11Speaker 01

  I mean, there's a few outliers, but.

• 36:14Andy Frisella?

  It's getting hammered for sure.

• 36:15Speaker 01

  It's smoked. I mean, I wasn't losing money on cars for a minute, and I've taken some L's over the last two years.

• 36:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, you gotta make sure, bro, you're like, you're buying the low production number shit.

• 36:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:27Andy Frisella?

  Dude.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  I switched my, I switched my.

• 36:29Andy Frisella?

  Let me help you with your, with your collection, because I'll, I'll, I'll guide you the right way.

• 36:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got out of the, uh, you know, the Huracans and, I got out of those. My most recent purchases have been more exclusive, go up in value.

• 36:45Andy Frisella?

  Dude, or at least hold, at least hold, you know, like dude, that's, uh, you know, if you get the right car at the right price, it'll hold your money and you get to, you get to drive it.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:55Andy Frisella?

  So, you know, I mean, it's just strategy, dude, you know, it's a supply demand, low production number equals sustained, you know, value for the most part.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  Um, yes, I mean, we'll, we'll see what happens.

• 37:07Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen.

• 37:08Speaker 02

  It'll be interesting, man, that, that's a, that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money.

• 37:12Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I mean, look, dude, do we really, I mean, I would venture to guess that the United States represents a very significant portion of the consumption of new automobiles from all the manufacturers that you listed.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 37:27Andy Frisella?

  Uh, so

• 37:30Andy Frisella?

  we'll have to see what happens because there is a, come a point of unaffordability for most people.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  I mean, a family go buy a new SUV.

• 37:39Andy Frisella?

  Or an Audi, right?

• 37:40Speaker 01

  A hundred and twenty thousand dollars, a hundred and ten thousand dollars, a hundred thousand dollars, that's like table stakes. If you want to go get a new Tahoe, you're out the door after taxes, everything, you're about a hundred grand, ninety-five grand, it's insane.

• 37:53Andy Frisella?

  That is insane. I remember when new, brand new Tahos were like forty-five, fifty grand.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, you know, my.

• 37:59Andy Frisella?

  Like, like decked out.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, it, it, it just goes up and up every single year. I mean.

• 38:06Andy Frisella?

  Bro, the fucking Escalade, the Escalade V is a hundred and eighty fucking grand.

• 38:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's insane.

• 38:11Speaker 02

  That's crazy, man. That's crazy.

• 38:14Speaker 01

  I mean, new.

• 38:14Andy Frisella?

  Bro, and you see them, you see them around, like, quite a few of them.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:18Andy Frisella?

  And it makes me wonder, it's like, okay.

• 38:21Speaker 01

  You know, a car that made me wonder where the fuck the money came from? The C8 Corvette. It's a hundred plus thousand dollar car.

• 38:29Andy Frisella?

  There's a lot of them.

• 38:29Speaker 01

  And there's, where I live in Indiana.

• 38:32Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 38:32Speaker 01

  I see thirty a day.

• 38:34Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I see a lot of them too. My dad's got one. What's fucking sweet. Have you driven one?

• 38:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:39Andy Frisella?

  They're fun to drive.

• 38:40Speaker 01

  I've driven the, the base one LZ and three LZ and then also ZO6.

• 38:46Andy Frisella?

  I haven't driven the ZO6. The, my dad has the Z51 package.

• 38:52Andy Frisella?

  And I mean, to me, to him, it's great. He's 80. You know what I'm saying? To me, if it's, it's good. It's balanced. I like driving it, but it's, it feels slow.

• 39:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, well.

• 39:01Andy Frisella?

  But I mean, I also drive ridiculously fast shit all the time.

• 39:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it, it just, you know what you can get for similar price.

• 39:09Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 39:09Speaker 01

  Like, the decision between a middle-aged Ferrari or a Corvette, like, give me the Ferrari all day.

• 39:17Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  Right?

• 39:18Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  Versus.

• 39:19Andy Frisella?

  Especially if you can get a V12 Ferrari.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:22Andy Frisella?

  They're fucking awesome.

• 39:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 39:25Speaker 02

  Must be a lot of USAID workers where you live at.

• 39:28Andy Frisella?

  Huh?

• 39:30Speaker 02

  That's what it is. No, but other stuff's been going on too. Um, for the first time, uh, you now have, you know, illegal migrants that have been trying to come to this country. They're now paying smugglers for boat rides back home. So.

• 39:44Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, they're, they're, uh, they're turning around.

• 39:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:46Andy Frisella?

  I saw that.

• 39:47Speaker 02

  So, I mean, that, that's okay.

• 39:49Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. They were saying, Mexico was saying yesterday that the migrant flow is actually reversed.

• 39:54Speaker 02

  Reversing.

• 39:55Andy Frisella?

  And they have, uh, big caravans going the opposite way now.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I mean, fuck, if you cut off the tip of the NGOs that are funding those travel plans, so you, you know, those migrants even get here.

• 40:03Andy Frisella?

  Well, dude, that's a problem too, though, because remember those NGOs were giving them food and water and all this shit to walk all the way up here. They're not going to be able to do that on the way back. So we're going to have, you know, these people are going to get sick and die on the way back.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  It'll be a real humanitarian crisis.

• 40:16Andy Frisella?

  For real.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:17Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, that they created by doing something illegal.

• 40:21Speaker 02

  That should have never been done.

• 40:22Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  Right, right. Um, so, I mean, that's going on. That's interesting. Um, other news, let's get into some of the Doge stuff real quick, because this is also interesting. Um, so you remember those emails that Doge made all the federal employees respond to, like with the five bullet points of things you've done? Um, Elon got one. This is one of the emails, uh, that was, uh, replied back. So this was an act, this is an actual government employee.

• 40:47Andy Frisella?

  Can I read it?

• 40:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:48Andy Frisella?

  Can I read it?

• 40:48Speaker 02

  Responding to, to the email.

• 40:49Andy Frisella?

  Hi, I wanted to email what I did last week in detail. Please let me know if you need some more information. Number one, I sucked the biggest dick. Seriously, it was 12.3 inches I measured. Number two, I got fucked by said dick. Best sex of my life and will be going back for more. Number three, ate a man's ass.

• 41:15Andy Frisella?

  But he said he wasn't gay, so it's fine.

• 41:20Andy Frisella?

  This is a man writing this about men.

• 41:22Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 41:23Andy Frisella?

  And I'm reading it.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. You wanted to read it. I was gonna read it for you.

• 41:26Andy Frisella?

  I, okay. Well, I'm already in. It's already going on. Uh, number, number, that's four. No, he's, he doesn't even have five.

• 41:35Speaker 02

  Well, it's funny you say that because Elon also, uh,

• 41:38Andy Frisella?

  Hold on.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  You read the fourth one?

• 41:40Andy Frisella?

  The fourth one said, "Decided to fuck myself with your bullshit and came." And then it's signed, "Sincerely, go fuck yourself." But there's only four things.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Well, that's what Elon said too. Elon said, "Um, we said five items and that's only four."

• 41:59Andy Frisella?

  Uh, you know what? I mean,

• 42:00Speaker 02

  You can't even mad at.

• 42:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I mean, look dude, he asked for five things. If you had give five things, maybe you keep your job.

• 42:06Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 42:07Andy Frisella?

  I mean, that sounds like a lot of work.

• 42:10Andy Frisella?

  You know, 12.3 inches, big ass hog, bro.

• 42:13Speaker 02

  You're alright.

• 42:14Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Shit. I'm just saying. Sounds like a fucking job.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I shake that guy's hand.

• 42:23Andy Frisella?

  Alright.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  He's so strong. It's so brave.

• 42:25Andy Frisella?

  I can't wait for, nevermind, I'm not gonna say it.

• 42:27Speaker 02

  What can't you wait for?

• 42:28Andy Frisella?

  Nothing. Cause if I say it, people will do it and then it'll be all over the internet. I'm not saying shit. Anyway, learn how to count, dumbass.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  Yep. But I mean, yeah, that's our,

• 42:38Andy Frisella?

  You know, he counted all the inches on that dick, didn't he?

• 42:42Speaker 02

  I measured.

• 42:42Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  Uh, but I mean, it's still been a downfall. Uh, you got tears, tissues and chocolates outside USAID as feds are given 15 minutes to clear out their desk. Um, so a shit ton of people been getting fired. That's still been on the rise. Um, I think they're projected to have these mass layoffs completed. I believe that the date is like March 14th. Um, I want to show you one of the videos, uh, that's been circulating, going viral. Check this out.

• 43:10Speaker 05

  I really felt that we were providing support and care to humanity around the world because it's the right thing to do. And that made me feel proud no matter who was president. And now I don't know what to do. And I have cried every day. I'm, I think that that's normal. I have a 15 month old at home and I'm looking at him and thinking, well, what's this country that we're now living in? We're doing work for the American public. We're here for safety.

• 43:39Speaker 05

  And we're patriots. We love our country. That's why we're taking these jobs that don't pay us in the private sector. I'm an accountant. I could get a private sector job tomorrow, but I care about this country and I want to be here.

• 43:51Andy Frisella?

  Hold on, stop. Stop that. I'm an accountant. I could go to the private sector tomorrow, but I'm crying every day about how I don't have a job anymore. Because I love my country. You love your country so much, you're willing to steal everybody's tax dollars and, and put them towards your own political agendas? I love your country. You think it's okay? She loves her country. Yeah. You know, like that woman cry, like, you know, it's hard to have empathy for people like this when, when, okay, yes, I understand you have bills to pay and you have family to take care of. But when you take half of people's money that they work for, and put it into programs that support propaganda of your side,

• 44:33Andy Frisella?

  and you somehow thinks that you're justified to get paid off of that money, that's not patriotic at all. And what about all the people, the millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people that struggle to feed their families because they're overtaxed? Right. They can't work anymore hours. They can't make any more money. And you take half of it anyway. Like, bro, that's, that's the crime here. That's, that's the oppression. And it doesn't matter if you guys think you're patriots or think you're doing good. You're not doing good. And that's the reality. You're not doing good at all. You're doing very evil shit. Yeah. And whether you knew it or not, I don't know. But we can't expect to subsidize your income because you picked the wrong team to be on, dude. Yeah. It's, it's.

• 45:18Andy Frisella?

  I mean, think of all the people, like, bro, you come from regular people. Yeah. I come from regular people. Like, think of all the people you know that struggle to pay their bills and like. My mom worked three jobs. That's what I'm saying. And, and dude, she wouldn't have had to work three if they hadn't taken half of fucking money in tax. Yeah. You know, maybe she would have had to work two, but it certainly would have been easier than it was. Yeah. You know, and with what things cost now. Versus what the, the pay scale is.

• 45:43Speaker 01

  It's ins- it's insanity. I mean.

• 45:45Andy Frisella?

  Bro.

• 45:46Speaker 01

  Take, take your kids to Disney World.

• 45:48Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 45:49Speaker 01

  Enough said.

• 45:50Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  It, I, I bought pretzels, a hot dog and chips and a drink. It was like $80.

• 45:58Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  Like, I, I just, I, I turned to my wife, I'm like, how do normal families afford?

• 46:04Andy Frisella?

  They don't.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  I know, he's racking up on a credit card, right? But I was just like, this is fucking insanity.

• 46:11Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. And, and dude, it, it, you know, a lot of people, when I say these things, they're like, why the fuck do you care? Because, bro, I know what that's like. You know, like, I might not have to feel that now, but I know what that's like before. It's wrong.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  Still question everything. It's like, wh- wh- why? Like, what's going on?

• 46:29Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Well, what's going on is they're taking half our money. They're spending it on things to propagate us and to believe in things that aren't even true.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  I seen they sent $20 million to put Sesame Street in Iraq.

• 46:42Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 46:43Speaker 01

  I was like, what?

• 46:45Andy Frisella?

  But, but you know how many times Sesame Street aired in, in Iraq?

• 46:49Speaker 01

  By none.

• 46:49Andy Frisella?

  Zero.

• 46:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:50Andy Frisella?

  And that's what these things are. These, that's why I like that picture you showed where there's nobody there. There's just empty golf carts and equipment. They have empty golf carts and empty classrooms so that they can fucking show that, you know, these things have been purchased and the rest of the money that never gets checked up on, it goes in their pocket. You know, dude, it's, it's straight up fleecing and theft of the American people and, and the, the punishment should be very harsh and I'm afraid it's not gonna be unless the people make the punishment.

• 47:19Speaker 01

  They have to declare it, man.

• 47:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  Have to demand it. Um, but other stuff going on, uh, Tulsi Gabbard, she enters the show today. Um, Tulsi Gabbard says, NSA employees tied to explicit chat rooms to be terminated, security clearances revoked. Did you hear about that shit, bro?

• 47:37Andy Frisella?

  Not, not in detail, a little bit.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  So, so, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, she's the director of national intelligence. There were employees, uh, that worked for the NSA. Um, there's this like, you know, it's a chat room for like inter-agency communication. All right?

• 47:59Speaker 02

  And you know, there's threads inside of these chat rooms and one of these threads was literally just filled with LGBTQ, you know, identifying employees of these intelligence agencies, talking about their sexual activities, their sexual preferences, 12 inch cocks and oh, I just got a big one. Disgusting stuff. And this chat room is supposed to be used to communicate our nation's intelligence and secrets across to each other effectively.

• 48:29Speaker 01

  Wild.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  It's insane. Um, but yeah. And so she, uh,

• 48:33Andy Frisella?

  So let me ask you a question.

• 48:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:35Andy Frisella?

  Uh, you guys tell me what you think. Have you ever seen, uh, the Snowden documentaries? Okay. Like, and, and in the Snowden documentaries, the reason people hate Snowden and they call him a traitor is because he exposed how the United States was using the Patriot Act to monitor its own citizens.

• 48:55Speaker 02

  Right.

• 48:55Andy Frisella?

  Okay. So the reason the government and the media says that Snowden is a traitor, they try to paint it like he was giving secrets to these guys. No, he wasn't. He was giving the people the intel that our government used the Patriot Act to legitimately log into our computers and watch us and listen to us and record us. Okay. When you guys see someone get committed of a crime and there's all these audio recordings, doesn't that ever raise a red flag? Do you're like, where do these audio recordings come from?

• 49:29Speaker 02

  Right.

• 49:29Andy Frisella?

  Well, they come from the NSA getting into your shit and recording what you say. And all you guys that have Alexa or these electronic devices in your home, you're not understanding or you're even your phone. Like if you ever want to have a confidential conversation, you have to put your phone five rooms away because they record that shit. Every conversation, every text, every email, everything you've ever said or done on a digital device is recorded and kept, all of it. Okay. And he exposed that. Most people still don't know that that's the truth.

• 50:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's still going on today.

• 50:06Andy Frisella?

  Yes. So this is how they blackmail people. This is what they get people to be quiet. You know, they go and they show them their fucking dick pics or whatever they've been doing. And they're like, dude, you, you better shut the fuck up or this is what's going to happen.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:20Andy Frisella?

  And that's, this is what they do. So, so knowing all that.

• 50:26Andy Frisella?

  That that is that is what Snowden was exposing. Do you think that these employees at the NSA who were having private chats about gay sex or sex or whatever, big dicks, big titties, whatever, whatever they were talking about?

• 50:44Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 50:45Andy Frisella?

  Do you, do you think that those people would abuse their power to spy on regular Americans when they're, you know, on their computers and phones and their pictures and all that shit?

• 50:59Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 50:59Andy Frisella?

  A hundred percent.

• 51:01Speaker 02

  No doubt.

• 51:02Andy Frisella?

  There's, we have no privacy. You guys think that we're private or have privacy, you're insane, there's no privacy. They, they got every single thing you ever said, ever did, and that's what they, that's how they control power, that's how they control other powerful people. And then things like the Epstein thing, right? So we're talking about that.

• 51:20Speaker 02

  Oh, for sure.

• 51:21Andy Frisella?

  But dude, I mean.

• 51:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Those people should be terminated.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  Well, and the craziest thing happened, right? Because like you have, so you have this thing going on with the NSA, this comes out, it's being handled, I trust Gabby to handle it, and those, again, those people are being terminated, their security clearances are being revoked, cool. Um, but then we gotta switch, switch over to the CIA and FBI. Uh, let's watch this, this clip from, uh, from Jesse Waters.

• 51:47Speaker 06

  But intel doesn't like being told what to do. When they saw Musk with the chainsaw dozing foreign aid, they started leaking to CNN. If you doze us, there will be consequences. On the CIA's seventh floor, home to top leadership, some officers are also quietly discussing how mass firings and the buyouts already offered to staff risk creating a group of disgruntled former employees who might be motivated to take what they know to a foreign intelligence service. The CIA is telling CNN that if their funding gets cut, they're gonna sell state secrets to Russia. Who the hell hired these Benedict Arnols?

• 52:30Speaker 06

  The CIA is supposed to be filled with patriots, not sellouts. And the FBI is up to no good too. Michael Schellenberger is reporting, a source inside the FBI says the bureau is destroying evidence. Now we know what their accomplishments were last week. Dear Elon, I wiped the servers cleaner than crooked.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  So the same employees.

• 52:53Andy Frisella?

  Well, that's a threat.

• 52:54Speaker 02

  Same type of people.

• 52:55Andy Frisella?

  Hold on, that's a threat. That's, that's them threatening. You guys understand, right?

• 53:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:00Andy Frisella?

  It's a threat.

• 53:01Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:01Andy Frisella?

  Like that's saying, man, you know, if this continues to happen, it would be terrible if, you know, the secrets got out to a foreign intelligence.

• 53:09Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:10Andy Frisella?

  You know what that's called, right?

• 53:12Speaker 02

  Blackmail.

• 53:12Andy Frisella?

  Well, it's treason.

• 53:13Speaker 02

  Well, treason, okay.

• 53:15Andy Frisella?

  So, go ahead. Go ahead. You just get hung. You know what I'm saying?

• 53:21Speaker 02

  No.

• 53:21Andy Frisella?

  Go ahead.

• 53:22Speaker 02

  Do it.

• 53:22Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 53:23Speaker 02

  Do it. Now, I mean, again, like, we see these things, these are great.

• 53:26Andy Frisella?

  What secrets do they have, anyway?

• 53:28Speaker 02

  Right.

• 53:28Andy Frisella?

  What fucking secrets you motherfuckers have? You got all the, all the naked pictures of all the citizens, so you can blackmail them?

• 53:32Speaker 02

  You got my 12-inch cock pics?

• 53:34Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, like, dude, that, you know.

• 53:36Speaker 02

  Please don't release it.

• 53:37Andy Frisella?

  Well, I mean, they don't publish fiction.

• 53:41Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, right. Well, I mean, they did with Trump.

• 53:44Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 53:45Speaker 02

  Might be interested in it.

• 53:46Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  I just wanted to know if aliens are real, okay? Can they publish that? I'm simple, okay?

• 53:53Speaker 02

  I think they're definitely real. But we got bigger things, though, like, I mean, like, these are all great things. I want, what I want to know, and this is why I'm on demon, demon time today. What I would like to know is where the fuck is the Epstein list?

• 54:09Speaker 01

  We'll never see it.

• 54:10Speaker 02

  Where is it at? Um, Epstein client list release could be imminent after Blackburn pushes transparency. Let them get jailed. Uh, you got Elena Haba, she came on to another interview. She says that absolutely expects criminal charges after Epstein files dropped today after meeting with Cash Patel and Pam Bondi.

• 54:30Speaker 02

  But, you know, the time right now is 4:20, uh, Central Standard Time, Thursday. It was promised to be released. It is 4:20, yeah.

• 54:40Speaker 02

  No Epstein list. Nothing. Now, what we do know, I mean, we, we, we know some things. This is not new news, right? Like, there was a mass release, this is, you know, so one thing that's going around social media right now is that, you know, vault.fbi.gov, that was from 2017. That should have been public since 2017. Nothing on that website has been updated since. Um, you know, here's an article from 2020, right? Like, we know some of the things, right? We know some of the names that have been. In court documents. We have some of the flight logs, right? Like, but again, this is not new stuff. This is stuff we've known. And even that, like, there's still names on there that are redacted, that were left out of the court filings. Right? This is, this is all stuff from.

• 55:19Andy Frisella?

  Go back. So they got Bill Clinton on there. Okay, not, not redacted, but then they got a redacted name.

• 55:27Speaker 02

  Right.

• 55:28Andy Frisella?

  So is that redacted name one of the victims?

• 55:32Speaker 02

  Potentially.

• 55:33Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  Potentially.

• 55:34Andy Frisella?

  I mean, like, if they got Bill Clinton on there, why the fuck would they redact someone else?

• 55:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:38Andy Frisella?

  It's about as big as it gets. So that could be one of the victims.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  Potentially, man.

• 55:42Andy Frisella?

  And that is what they said. They did say the reason it's taking so long is because they have to go through hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages to make sure that the victims aren't public. You know, which you didn't have time to do that for last five years.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, the other thing they're saying too now is like, apparently the FBI, like there is some treasonous shit going on and they're deleting some stuff, they're holding back. Like I saw this letter circulating that Pam Bondi sent to Cash Patel demanding that everything get to her office by tomorrow morning. But it's just like, I mean, again, like, how do you, how are you putting these things on and you're still getting railroaded? And derailed off the, you know what I'm saying? You, it was day one was many days ago.

• 56:26Speaker 02

  Many days ago. And like at this point in the game, bro, they're risking some heavy stuff, right? Public trust is, I mean.

• 56:36Andy Frisella?

  What they're risking is the entire movement of people that voted for this administration turning against them.

• 56:42Speaker 02

  Getting completely deflated.

• 56:44Andy Frisella?

  That's what they're risking. Okay. And I, I know that these people are high on the hog because they just won the election and they're all getting in. But I believe that they are highly underestimating and misjudging where people are with the transparency that we expect.

• 57:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:02Andy Frisella?

  And I will not support this administration if they do continue to keep secrets from the American public after all the things that we've been lied to and had forced down our throats and the injustices and the crimes against humanity that have happened over the last four or five years. Now, with that being said, I am willing to give them 90 days, as I've said the whole time, because a lot of my friends, when Trump got elected, they're like, dude. It's better than Biden, but this motherfucker is still going to be the same thing and they they have no faith. Um, I'm not that person. I I understand and you understand that when you're building a business or running an organization,

• 57:41Andy Frisella?

  things do take time to process and this is, this is a big company. It's the biggest quote unquote company in the world. Uh, there's lots of layers to it. There's lots of shit to dig through. And, you know, it takes time. It does. But look, man.

• 58:00Andy Frisella?

  If they, if they don't fuck, if they like today, they gave the, these influencers, you got this? No, no, we gotta talk about it. You know, they gave all these influencers, uh, this binder. Yeah. With apparently phase one of the, look, we don't need phases, bro. And you know what else we don't need? We don't need a bunch of influencers that just kiss ass and go along with everything Trump says to get the information first. Okay? Be the disseminators of truth. Nobody should be agreeing with anything, with everything anyone says. Right. That's not healthy. It creates a situation where corruption happens and powers are abused. And what's happening?

• 58:44Andy Frisella?

  And what's materializing is that situation, which was the exact situation on the left. When we watched Jake Tapper deny that Biden was cognitively impaired, we, that's the same thing that's happening over here now. Right. Where people are willing to just support because they're so drawn into the MAGA movement. And by the way, look dude, I don't, I want to say this. I'm not turning against Donald Trump. I'm, I'm just stating that they need to understand very clearly that people expect very much. Different outcomes than what we've been experiencing.

• 59:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:24Andy Frisella?

  Not just the last four years, but the last thirty years.

• 59:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:27Andy Frisella?

  And to give these people, and by the way, not a single one of these motherfuckers that got this binder has gone as hard as we have gone.

• 59:36Speaker 02

  I've done anything.

• 59:37Andy Frisella?

  Okay.

• 59:37Speaker 02

  Sell fucking shit.

• 59:37Andy Frisella?

  We were saying the shit way before it was okay to say, when there was actual risk to saying it. And then later, people come out and say it, and those are the motherfuckers. Okay, and I like some of these people, I don't dislike them, but let's be fucking real. You need to be giving the information to people who are going to be honest about the information that are given to them, because that's what's going to restore the trust in society. Okay, and yes, nobody trusts mainstream media. But you also gave the information to people that never criticized the administration as well, which isn't any better than giving it, than the left giving it to KGP or CNN.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:17Andy Frisella?

  So, like, if we want trust restored, we have to give it to people who are openly, uh, I don't know, I don't even want to say critical, but at least like, critical thinkers, who, who will call things the way they see it. And, and by them giving it to only people that support,

• 1:00:36Andy Frisella?

  it makes me think that they're trying to hide shit.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:38Andy Frisella?

  You know, I, I, I don't, I don't know, like, it doesn't make me feel good. I think that's bullshit. And by the way, I know a lot of influencers who have done a lot of the heavy lifting before any of those people did it, before any of them did it.

• 1:00:51Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:51Andy Frisella?

  You know, when there was risk to saying it.

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. Risk of losing gems.

• 1:00:55Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  Jobs.

• 1:00:56Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:57Speaker 02

  Fucking companies, I mean, a lot of the arrows have already been fucking taken.

• 1:01:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:01Speaker 02

  These people sweep in behind them and, you know, i- i- it's, it's really, really fucking annoying.

• 1:01:07Andy Frisella?

  What do you think, dude? You don't think it's gonna come out?

• 1:01:09Speaker 01

  No, I don't. I think there'd be too much, uh, repercussions. I think there's too many key people, uh, that was involved.

• 1:01:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  That's why I think it's personally taking so long.

• 1:01:23Andy Frisella?

  I, I, yeah, I, I, I don't disagree with you, dude.

• 1:01:25Speaker 01

  And, you know, the administration does promise transparency. I mean, it was one of their, their core matras of getting back into the office, but this particular topic, I think is gonna, the can's gonna go and go and go.

• 1:01:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:41Andy Frisella?

  It almost makes me think like, where are they distracting us from? Dude, well, you know, it made me think of something. Cause that's all people are talking about right now. So what else is going on? What's happening? Right. And like, it made me think, and like, you know, I've been watching this, this develop. We haven't really talked about it on the show. I don't believe we've covered it at all. But I've been like keeping my eye on it and we gotta go to Germany. Right? Because I don't know if you guys understand what just happened in Germany. But it's, it's kinda fucked. Right? So you have German, you have the AFD party, right? Which is equivalent to the rights, you know, America's right conservative side. The others dude make all these fucking promises on the campaign trail, bro, right? All these fucking promises, truth, transparency, bring German culture back. Borders. Close borders.

• 1:02:25Andy Frisella?

  Deportation, handle the migrant issues, right? All of these things. He gets elected. And then goes on the stage at his very first meeting and say he's not doing any of that shit.

• 1:02:36Speaker 01

  You gotta remember what we talked about earlier. They have these conversations behind closed doors. On both sides of the aisle. Right? And so it, it's, it's a game of, um, controlling media and controlling a narrative, you know?

• 1:02:52Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. I think the more people see it.

• 1:02:58Andy Frisella?

  It's very, it's very frustrating to watch.

• 1:03:02Speaker 01

  I, I do think our biggest hope in this equation is Elon, by the way. I think he is down the, like, down the middle. He just wants what's right.

• 1:03:12Andy Frisella?

  You see, I don't see it that way.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:14Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. I see it. I see Elon with a lot to gain personally. I like Elon. I like Trump. But I, it makes me like, when we talk about, you know? What he has to gain. It's a lot. And

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  It is.

• 1:03:32Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. And so, you know? Directly or indirectly. Yeah. Gaining a lot from it. Yeah. I, I.

• 1:03:40Andy Frisella?

  I don't know. I mean, he's all about Neuralink. He's all about transhumanism. He's all about AI and robotics. And, you know, we'll talk about that on the next topic, but like, those are things that really concern me about him.

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's my world, though.

• 1:03:52Andy Frisella?

  I know.

• 1:03:52Speaker 01

  You gotta understand, I do have a little bit of favoritism.

• 1:03:56Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:56Speaker 01

  Um, but you also got to remember, he walked away from ChatGPT because it was getting, do you know about that? He was one of the original founders of ChatGPT and they were going too far with it. And he sued the other primary shareholders. And they, they did resolve it, but he, he was like, guys, this is going too far, too fast. We, we.

• 1:04:25Andy Frisella?

  So you believe he has a moral standard about it?

• 1:04:27Speaker 01

  I, I, yes.

• 1:04:28Andy Frisella?

  Okay.

• 1:04:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And, you know, there's, there's some things that I do know that I can't just say here and openly talk about. I, he has a very strong moral standard.

• 1:04:38Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. But that's, that's one that's public that people can reference is when he had a lot to gain, right? ChatGPT was one of the fastest growing companies ever, right? And it was the fastest growing platform ever to, to hit a million active daily users, so on and so forth. Um, and he was like, no, this ain't right. Fuck you guys. And well, they resolved it.

• 1:05:02Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. I mean, look, I, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying, I'm not sure yet.

• 1:05:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:09Andy Frisella?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 1:05:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:11Speaker 02

  There, there's still some, some pudding that gotta be put.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  No, look, I, I, I lean into the, the Trump administration and, and I'm Republican, have no problem representing that.

• 1:05:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  There does have to be equal transparency, you know, like.

• 1:05:27Andy Frisella?

  Well, the trust has been eroded so hard, bro. We have to have.

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  You have to restore it.

• 1:05:31Andy Frisella?

  It's extra transparency.

• 1:05:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:33Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:33Speaker 01

  You have to restore it by going over and beyond.

• 1:05:37Andy Frisella?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  And, and, you know, so they've got their work cut out.

• 1:05:41Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I agree, dude.

• 1:05:42Speaker 01

  They got their work cut out, but I, I do believe, uh, Trump and Elon and the, in the core team. At the end of the day, they do really want that. And they're gonna work. They do have powers fighting against them, right?

• 1:05:56Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:56Speaker 01

  Everyone thinks that when the president's in the office, they have all to say.

• 1:05:59Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:00Speaker 01

  And it, in reality.

• 1:06:01Andy Frisella?

  Well, we learned that the first Trump administration.

• 1:06:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. And in reality, there's a lot of roadblocks.

• 1:06:06Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  There's a lot of roadblocks and guys, for people listening, I'm not an expert on anything government. I just wanted to, you know, say that.

• 1:06:15Andy Frisella?

  Well, it would be no different if you took over a company.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  I look at it.

• 1:06:19Andy Frisella?

  If you took over a company that had a bad culture, okay? And they know that you stand for these things and that's just not the way we do things here. Okay. You're gonna have your work cut out for you cleaning that out. It's hard. You have to identify all the little culture cancers. You have to cut them out, you know, and that is what they're doing.

• 1:06:39Speaker 01

  It's a process.

• 1:06:40Andy Frisella?

  But like dude, I don't like the way they're going about this. I really don't. It makes me trust them less. That's all I'm saying.

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:47Andy Frisella?

  People deserve to know the truth. If, if we were being, if all of the people that are influential in our media and Hollywood are being leveraged to promote certain propaganda or do certain things or put certain messages out to us.

• 1:07:06Andy Frisella?

  We deserve to know those things and we already know that USAID has been doing this. Soros has been doing this. He's, he's getting in big trouble right now because he bought all those radio stations. So that he could propaganda, you know?

• 1:07:19Speaker 01

  Do what he's been doing.

• 1:07:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:21Speaker 01

  And like my thing is like, if they are, and if they are being leveraged, cool.

• 1:07:24Andy Frisella?

  By who?

• 1:07:25Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, we deserve to know that. Well.

• 1:07:28Andy Frisella?

  That's why we, that's why it got come out though.

• 1:07:29Speaker 01

  If you, if you remember, Mark Zuckerberg released a letter stating that he, he was throttling traffic during the last elections. He admitted, he came clean on everything and posted it himself.

• 1:07:45Andy Frisella?

  Do you think he came clean on everything or do you think he came clean on what he thought he had to?

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  I'm not friends with Mark. I can't, I don't know. But that is like, those are the things that I remember and, and just gives me hope.

• 1:07:57Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:58Speaker 01

  That there are, you know, Mark is arguably one of the most influential people in the world.

• 1:08:04Andy Frisella?

  For sure.

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  And he stepped out on a limb. Exposing himself. So that that gives me hope that.

• 1:08:11Andy Frisella?

  Well, see, the way I look at that.

• 1:08:12Speaker 01

  We can go in the in the right direction.

• 1:08:14Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I look, man, but I look at that differently. I look at that like, okay, when when they were in office, the Biden administration, which are communists, he did, he did what he could to play ball with them. And the real test would be, what would happen if those progressive people

• 1:08:38Andy Frisella?

  got back in power? Would he? Would he? Would he stand up to them now? Or would he just go back the way he was?

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  They saw his new swagger. I think he would stand up.

• 1:08:48Andy Frisella?

  Here's how I look at it, too. Like, like, I think, you know, you could you mentioned a word there, hope. What is? What is hope meant to do?

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  Hope is meant to influence change, in my opinion.

• 1:08:58Andy Frisella?

  Well, see, I look at hope. I think hope is meant to stall people from action. To pacify. Yeah. Right? And so it's like, you know, what better way? You got the American people. Now, there's two different kinds of hope. You're right. Their hope can inspire action. For sure. Yeah. But it can also inspire complacency when people look around and and our our citizenship is conditioned to wait for someone else.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's how.

• 1:09:24Andy Frisella?

  And that's my thing. It's like, it's like, all right, so you got all these American, like, millions of us pissed. What better way to to to calm them down? Put out a fucking letter. Yeah, no problem.

• 1:09:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:34Andy Frisella?

  Cool, whatever.

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  No, I get it. And and I love both. Like, I love all these opinions, you know, but I I look at everything from an optimistic lens. I think most entrepreneurs do. Um, but there's a lot of mental training that went into that, you know? If I did not do all that self-work and discipline, I would see hope differently, myself. Like, if I if I couldn't compartmentalize, if that makes sense.

• 1:10:01Andy Frisella?

  For sure, dude. I mean, look, I it depends on your perspective.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:10:05Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, and where you are. But I could tell you this. I I know for sure that the American people are in a place of when when they feel hope as a whole, right now, culture, it's it's it's to paralyze. Something's going to happen. Something's going to happen. Trust the plan. It's all going to work out.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  Eat your popcorn.

• 1:10:26Andy Frisella?

  Right, those. That's where people are right now. So. And it's a dangerous place to be. It is, man, because we forfeit our actions as citizens on to other people's backs. That may not exist. We don't know. I mean, look, dude, I I like Trump. I do too. I fucking like his family. I like what he says. I think he's fucking hilarious. I think he's badass. I mean, bro, he's 80 years old. He works harder than anybody I know. Yeah. You know, um, but I don't like the way this is being handled. It's just, I don't like it. It makes me doubt. It makes me have concerns and that doesn't make me comfortable and

• 1:11:08Andy Frisella?

  I don't like the way that they only recognize influencers that fucking only Yeah, I agree with everything they say.

• 1:11:15Speaker 01

  I agree with that. It's gotta be both sides for change to happen.

• 1:11:20Andy Frisella?

  For sure.

• 1:11:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:11:21Andy Frisella?

  Well, that's what real truth and honesty looks like, man.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:24Andy Frisella?

  But like, I mean, now, now to you, you know, you guys also brought up this about distractions. Um, and you know, cause like, that's always been my stance, right? Like, okay, like the big game's here. Cool. But what's happening over here, right? Like, you know, you got the big smokescreen. What's happening behind that? And, um, you know, it is interesting, Andy, because you've also mentioned many a times, bro, like, you know, they have, you know, the deep state. I don't, I don't like, here's the fallacy that I think too many people get into, like that Trump's in office and everything's gonna be just fine. Like you said, he has plenty of people that are fighting against him. We know we have deep state. And I'm of the belief that I think the deep state still has a lot of control on a lot of things. And, you know, we talked about red button pushes. I don't know. Um, but this is something interesting. Um, LAX is on red alert right now because some

• 1:12:08Andy Frisella?

  foreign traveler just brought in a deadly disease somehow. Um, and it infected an unknown number of American citizens.

• 1:12:16Speaker 01

  Well, I believe it was on your show there. You, you believe that the COVID 2.0 is gonna hit.

• 1:12:22Andy Frisella?

  Oh, yeah. Well, it's funny you say that because that also comes out that, uh, the Wuhan bat lab linked to COVID pandemic is carrying out an ominous new virus experience and they just created a COVID 2.0. Yeah. Well, look, I was talking to Sean Ryan about this yesterday on the phone.

• 1:12:44Andy Frisella?

  These people who are in control are very dangerous when they are at the risk of being exposed for how much influence and how much control they have. And right now, that's happening. And there could be a number of things happening here. It could be, there's people implicated, so they're trying to slow roll the fucking list out. It could be that Trump administration has intel that if this happens, then this will happen. Meaning, because like, let's be real, bro. Everybody knows what the fucking Epstein shit was, okay? Like Epstein was a Mossad operation for collecting intelligence, which means it comes from Israel, which means it fuels the fire of it being what people like to say now, "The Jews", okay?

• 1:13:29Andy Frisella?

  But the reality is, it is the government of Israel, a lot of which are not even Semitic Jews, okay? So, it's a corrupt government who is responsible for an operation, and it does not go to the rest of the world of Jews. Period, alright? But the problem with it is, is they could know that, meaning Trump could know that if this were to come out, it could fuel that fire, because dude, people are already talking about it. It's out in the open, dude. You look all over TikTok, you look all over Instagram, you look all over Twitter, everybody's talking about the Jews, okay?

• 1:14:14Andy Frisella?

  What happens if this comes out and it confirms that Israel was behind an operation that was raping children for intel? What does that do to the cultural place of the world? It creates a mass hysteria against a certain group of people, when in reality, in my opinion, it shouldn't be focused on a certain race of people or religion of people. It should be focused on the actual people who fucking are responsible for it. Yeah. Okay? The individuals with names and addresses, okay? Who also manipulate those people. Mm-hmm. So when we talk about, it could be this too.

• 1:14:52Andy Frisella?

  It could be they are aware of a plan to release covid 2.0 if this information comes out and implicates Mossad in some sort of child sex trafficking shit. So there dude, this is chess. And as much as it pisses me off that the shit's not just coming out, there's probably some strategic reasons that have to do with the safety of human beings.

• 1:15:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:18Andy Frisella?

  That is being manipulated for a reason. And I think that's what we all need to really stop and take a breath about. Because how hard do you think that these people, if they knew that the whole world was going to come down on them? Do we not think that they have plans to handle that? I mean, bro, they have, uh, what they have a, Israel has a, uh, they have that fucking Hannibal directive. Where the fucking, they, they launch a nuclear weapon, uh, to destroy, like if they, if they are threatened, they can nuke the whole world. So like, there's, there's all kinds of shit that could be happening here that we don't know.

• 1:15:56Andy Frisella?

  Um, because the reality of the situation is, is that a lot of our own government is, is manipulated by Mossad and blackmail by Mossad. And everybody fucking knows that, so I hesitate to lump any race of people into a category. I don't think that because a black person does things, does something that that makes all black people bad. I don't think that because a Christian does something bad, that makes all Christians bad. I don't believe that when, uh, some Jewish people at the top of a government do something bad, that that equates to all Jewish people. I know it doesn't. Um, and I think we as human beings need to have more reasonable conversations.

• 1:16:34Andy Frisella?

  And it's hard to do with all the big voices out there screaming that it's an actual race as opposed to, uh, you know, individual people that are evil. And so, you know, that's how I feel about it. Like, but the truth of the matter is, the real reason it's not coming out is because it's going to implicate our biggest ally and one of the most disgusting intel collecting operations, and it's probably going to implicate our own, our own intelligence services as well. So, you know, let's be real, that's why it's not coming out because the shit is so disgusting that the average person is going to be like, what the fuck is going on?

• 1:17:10Speaker 01

  It would create, my belief is, it simply will create more mistrust and counter react. The efforts that they're doing to try to put trust into the American people.

• 1:17:22Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I mean dude, look. We deserve to know either way. That's my opinion. And, and the people who are responsible for things like that deserve death. That's my opinion too. Um, you know, and.

• 1:17:36Andy Frisella?

  You know, there's a reason that the propaganda for the last seven, eight years has been very heavy towards. Uh, well, you know, it's been phased, right? It's been heavy towards LGBTQIA plus. But then it was hijacked by trans people. And then they started normalizing pedophilia by calling them MAPS, you know, minor attractive persons. And if we look at the propaganda that's been put out and who's been putting it out. Okay. Which is, you know, people like Soros putting out this progressive propaganda. And we look at all the messaging, who's been putting it out?

• 1:18:13Andy Frisella?

  It stands to reason in my mind that. They're trying to normalize something that they're all complicit in before it actually comes out. Meaning.

• 1:18:23Speaker 02

  They can get the population.

• 1:18:24Andy Frisella?

  Meaning, we're gonna get, we're gonna get the population to agree that people who are attracted to minors can't help it. And, uh, you know, like they're doing in Europe now where they're getting little kids. They're arguing for little kids to have consent to have sexual relations with an adult. That is fact. Okay. That's happening in many countries in Europe. Child consent laws. They, a child can consent who they want to have sex with. No matter if that person is 40 years old. Okay. Or whatever. It doesn't matter. Why would they do that? Well, the reason I think they would do that. Is because it's, it's fucking insane.

• 1:19:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:02Andy Frisella?

  And the reason that I think they would do that is because they're so fucking into that shit. And they know it's coming out that they don't want to be burned at the stake when it comes out. But their, their, their efforts to normalize that have failed. So where does that leave us now? And I think that's a very delicate situation to unravel. When you have a government. Maybe two governments. And then an organization like the World Economic Forum that's made up of the most powerful people in the world.

• 1:19:34Andy Frisella?

  All guilty of this shit. I mean, it's, it's, you know. Like, it's dangerous. Release it, bro. Yeah, I, I, look, that's where I'm at too, because I've been in, talking about this for so long. Release it. But I do, I, that's the only, those are the reasons that I can think of why it's being done the way it's done. I, I don't agree with the way it's done. Right. But that's my breakdown of what could be why. Yeah. Guys, jump in on this conversation. Let us know down in the comments what you guys think. With that being said, let's get to our final headline. We got headline number three.

• 1:20:12Andy Frisella?

  AI. Yeah. So let's have some conversations about it. I got some interesting stuff here. So this first headline is Goku. A Chinese open source model challenges OpenAI in the US. Have you seen this? Are you familiar with Goku?

• 1:20:27Speaker 01

  Uh, not super familiar with Goku, aware of it, but know more about DeepSeek.

• 1:20:32Andy Frisella?

  Okay.

• 1:20:33Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:20:34Andy Frisella?

  So, so China just came out with this new, uh, it's from ByteDance, uh, and they launched what's called Goku, which is an advanced AI model for image and video generation.

• 1:20:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:20:46Andy Frisella?

  Okay. Now, I'm gonna show you guys some clips here. All right. I'm gonna show you two clips and I want you to tell me which one is AI and which one's not. Okay? Here's clip one.

• 1:20:57Andy Frisella?

  If you're listening to audio, you gotta come over to YouTube.

• 1:21:01Andy Frisella?

  And that's clip two. Which one's AI?

• 1:21:07Speaker 01

  Second one.

• 1:21:08Andy Frisella?

  I, I thought the second one too. Okay. Well, joke's on both of you because it's both. Well, the second one looked more AI. Yeah. No, these are both AI-generated videos.

• 1:21:20Andy Frisella?

  All of these. I mean, that one looks way more AI.

• 1:21:24Speaker 05

  不仅能从零到一生成口播视频，也能生成更具感染力的走播视频，支持各种语言，不需要数字人录制，极大降低了视频广告制作门槛。

• 1:21:37Andy Frisella?

  This is AI.

• 1:21:42Andy Frisella?

  This is AI.

• 1:21:46Andy Frisella?

  This is also AI. It's gonna put influencers out of business, bro, for sure. Bro. Yeah, influ- listen, influencers don't wanna work, a lot of them don't wanna work. They don't wanna do the shit right, they don't wanna do things right. They wanna fucking, a lot of them wanna just get paid for existing. And that's gonna, these people, this is gonna kill their business.

• 1:22:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm partners with a Instagram page called the AI Surfer. And if you watch all that content, it's all AI video, every piece of it. And we get thousands and thousands of new followers every day, hundreds and hundreds of DMs every single day. And every single video is generated by AI.

• 1:22:31Andy Frisella?

  So, how long does it take them to generate a video like that?

• 1:22:36Speaker 01

  Five to fifteen minutes, depending on the depth of, we wanna go with it.

• 1:22:41Andy Frisella?

  And this is, as simple as like, okay, like, here's a bottle of water. You, you know, take a picture of this, prompt the AI, hey, I need to add around.

• 1:22:49Speaker 01

  It, it depends. So he- here's the truth about AI. It, yes, it's advancing fast, it's the fastest technology that's ever been created. But it also still requires a really intelligent human to use it. That, that's, that's the brutal truth, right?

• 1:23:07Speaker 01

  You know, sales AI, ChatGPT, all these platforms that you can reference. If you put shit in, you get shit out. It's still driven by the human. So I like to say, AI is great, but the human takes it across the finish line.

• 1:23:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, for now.

• 1:23:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, but even Gen AI, that's starting to come out, right? Videos, that, that's different, right? But we're talking day-to-day society. It's still gonna require a workforce that knows how to intelligently work it.

• 1:23:41Speaker 01

  Right, it it's going to have an impact on labor work. It's gonna have an impact on call centers and desk jobs and content and all of those that people already talk about. But it's also going to create the opportunity to upskill and upscale lower late wage employees to earn more, to be more intelligent, right? It's just like, the way I talk about it is, I didn't live in these days, only any of us did, but like farming, when the tractor came out. Oh, you don't need a gas powered machine, we just plow our fields. Well, the guys that never bought the tractor are out of business, right?

• 1:24:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any doubt about that.

• 1:24:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:26Andy Frisella?

  It's just what are the implications of uh, that technology on business culture and humanity as a whole. And I think that's where you know, people are fit, you know, let me, so I'm a little older than you guys, alright? I remember when the internet came about. Alright, I remember very clearly. At first, it was very simple shit. It was, you could get online and kind of talk to your buddies. You could look up naked chicks, like, you know what I'm saying, like it was Yeah, it was just, it was just very simple. You could send letters to your friends, you could get on AOL Messenger and, you know, go back and forth. It was cool.

• 1:25:07Andy Frisella?

  Um, then e-comm started to show up on, you know,

• 1:25:13Andy Frisella?

  on the internet. Amazon was one of the first companies that really came around.

• 1:25:20Andy Frisella?

  For ten, fifteen years, all these companies that came on the internet, they had, they did not have to collect sales tax. Alright, so because they didn't have to collect sales tax, they had a ten, an eight to twelve percent margin advantage over brick and mortar, mom and pop retail locations, whether that be a grocery store, bookstore, fucking supplement store, anything.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:42Andy Frisella?

  Okay, anything sold, they had a ten percent price advantage. Which means, they could sell for ten percent less than all of the companies out here that employed the majority of humanity, alright? And That created a situation where people would go on Amazon and they would buy things for less. So the argument used to be, I go on Amazon because it's cheaper, cheaper than everybody. And it was because they had an unfair tax advantage. It took many, many years, over a decade for that to be put on to these companies. But by that time, the behavior had been modeled and cultivated for people to shop there. And when that started to happen, now they leaned into convenience.

• 1:26:27Andy Frisella?

  So now the consumer has been trained to buy for convenience over price. How many people will pay extra to get the shit today or tomorrow than they, you know, than a week from now? Almost everybody, okay? So that all spawned off of an unfair advantage that ended up creating obsolete businesses that employ human beings. And I watched it happen. I've seen it happen. You know, I've watched it happen.

• 1:27:01Andy Frisella?

  And so now, this is the biggest thing that's come along since then. And it's, I think it's much bigger.

• 1:27:11Andy Frisella?

  And now we have a situation where we have technology that can do the job, not just of one human, but many humans inside an organization. So, yeah, that makes sense. Like I could run my company much cheaper based upon implementing AI. But that means that people in my community aren't going to have jobs and aren't going to have income. So

• 1:27:39Speaker 02

  And if everybody's doing it.

• 1:27:40Andy Frisella?

  Hold on. If everybody's doing it, we just have a separation of classes. We have people getting more in higher paid positions and then we have people less. So My concern with AI, I mean, is where are we gonna be? Cause like dude, like you said, it's so fast. Where are we going to be in five years? Well, I mean, dude, Tesla's already got fucking humanoid robots. Yep. What happens when they're autonomous on AI and can like, you just say, hey, robot, go build me a fucking house? And three, three robots that have the superhuman strength? That you bought for 20 grand a piece? Go out and build you a house?

• 1:28:21Andy Frisella?

  And now you have a construction company of, you know, cause like, that's the biggest thing. Like all the labor guys, the guys who do houses and construction or trade skills. Laying the pipe. Yeah, they'll always, they'll, yeah, they'll always, that's gonna change too. It's gonna change, yeah. So, but dude, they'll always say, well, they can't do my job. Or an artist, like a wood crafter will be like, can't do my motherfucker? You don't think that that fucking robot can make better looking shit than you? Like, and they could do it without rest, without complaining, without pay after the sunk cost. There's no union. So dude, what I'm saying here, and, and like, look, we can argue the ethics of it night and day. But here's the reality, it's fucking here and it's happening. Yes.

• 1:29:03Andy Frisella?

  So how, how do you see that playing out? Um, because I agree with you, dude, like, look, if we're competing against other, like, just take my company, uh, First Form here. If we're competing against other companies, like, let's say Nike, and fucking Nike does AI and their margins go to the moon? And your margins are fucking little because of, like, you're gonna get put out of business and those people aren't gonna have jobs anyway. Right. So, like, it's, it's, it's hard as an entrepreneur that cares about their people? To really understand how to properly leverage and utilize it?

• 1:29:48Andy Frisella?

  You know, without putting yourself out of business. You know what I mean? It's just a hard, it's, it's, I don't.

• 1:29:53Speaker 02

  It's risk and reward, right?

• 1:29:55Andy Frisella?

  Well, bro, I, I just, I mean, what do you think, dude?

• 1:29:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:59Andy Frisella?

  Cause you're a morally great, you're a great dude.

• 1:30:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:01Andy Frisella?

  Like you care about people.

• 1:30:02Speaker 01

  I, I do. Um, I'm honestly most proud of raising a family, building a team and employing people within my community.

• 1:30:11Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:12Speaker 01

  But I'm also a proponent of, I do save companies a lot of money. I do hit cogs hard on a P and L.

• 1:30:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:20Speaker 01

  And max, you know, maximizing that, right? So I, I really try to ride the middle line and not take a defensive stance of, I want to replace humans and or, you know, keep humans. I, I ride the line of adapt or die.

• 1:30:37Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Well, that's, that's reality.

• 1:30:39Speaker 01

  And, and, and so I just try to stick to reality with it. I get these hard questions all the time, especially, you gotta remember my business can work 24/7, 365 days in your business. So let's say you have a hundred people on this floor doing customer support. I can replace that with one software.

• 1:30:59Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:59Speaker 01

  And, and handle 48,000 calls a minute.

• 1:31:03Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:04Speaker 01

  And never miss a beat. Know every single product, take the customer complaints, do the refund, fill in the tickets, all.

• 1:31:11Andy Frisella?

  No, you showed it to me. Last time you were here.

• 1:31:13Speaker 02

  We called it, we called it. Yeah.

• 1:31:15Speaker 01

  And, and so, you know, yes, I'm, I'm feeding the beast of, it could make that negative impact. But I, I try to take the stance that lean into it now because here, here's the reality of you're in early adoption phase. You're not in your buying cycle and you're not nowhere near the peak. So this would be like getting on the internet in 2001.

• 1:31:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:40Speaker 01

  Or it'd be like if first form was only an e-com business in 2001, right? You'd have a huge advantage nowadays, right? If, if you went all in on that, right? Um, so that's what I try to encourage people is lean into it, become masters in these subtopics. Because AI is going to hit every industry. So if you're in construction, how can you embrace it now? And become a a force to be reckoned with by embracing it and leading change throughout the industries?

• 1:32:11Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:11Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:32:12Andy Frisella?

  What do you think the relationship will be between humans and AI? Because like, I mean, I have this other other article that came up too. This just came out. Um, that AI chatbots posing as therapists could have dangerous and violent consequences. So now they're training AI, uh, chatbots to like be actual therapists to real humans now, right? Like, I mean, so like, what do you see? Do you see the relationship as like a beneficial one? Right? Because like, I mean, we we've talked, I mean, like, there's plenty of of therapists out there that that do great work.

• 1:32:46Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:32:46Andy Frisella?

  Are helpful. Cool. But there's also a lot that also take advantage.

• 1:32:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:50Andy Frisella?

  Of of, you know, problems that could be easily solved by.

• 1:32:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's called life, motherfucker. It's hard, right?

• 1:32:57Andy Frisella?

  Right? You know? So it's like, I mean, what, how do you look at the relationship of humans and AI like outside of even just the business?

• 1:33:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:05Andy Frisella?

  Space, right? Like, how do you look at it?

• 1:33:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, I look at it that it's going to take time for the average consumer to gain trust and even become aware uh, of of realities, you know? Um, there's certain Fortune 500 companies that I already work with, that you're already interacting with on an everyday basis and you have no idea. Um, but we encourage those companies to be upfront about this usage. And most of them do in some way, shape or form. Simply, the phone rings, it answers and says, hey, this is an AI assistant with X company, right? Um, but you know, it it's like a loaded firearm. You can save the day or you can cause havoc.

• 1:33:47Speaker 01

  And so people that have good intentions and that are in the field of AI will make the world a better place. And people that have ill intentions will make the world a worse place. I kind of leave it. Again, I take that middle, that middle lane with it. And and I think humans, they thrive off of convenience, right? Well, AI is going to make things a lot more convenient. Um, I was just in Miami, uh, earlier this week, and there's AI bots delivering food. Right? You get your food in 10 minutes versus 30. What are you doing? You're gonna use that robot, right? Um, so humans are gonna adjust to it.

• 1:34:27Andy Frisella?

  Well, I mean, dude, that's, I mean, look, dude, there's not a person with a brain in business that doesn't understand that Amazon's a bad thing for business. It's bad. It's not good. It's bad. It's bad for your, it's bad for your local, uh, your, your local community. Amazon's not out there sponsoring T-ball teams and fucking shit like that. Okay?

• 1:34:47Andy Frisella?

  It's capitalism, which I can respect, but I also respect the boundaries of capitalism, meaning I think there's ethical capitalism and I think there's unethical capitalism. And I think, you know, when we start talking about convenience and, you know, like, okay, what, like, when you start tying this all together about where this is going, it sort of makes sense as to why they want to depopulate the planet. Because they don't fucking need a workforce anymore.

• 1:35:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, they don't need Uber Eats.

• 1:35:16Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I mean,

• 1:35:18Speaker 01

  you're going deep here, Andy.

• 1:35:19Andy Frisella?

  I, I know. Yeah, but like,

• 1:35:21Speaker 01

  Promoting.

• 1:35:22Andy Frisella?

  No, but what do you do? What do you do? With all the people who aren't going to have a job? I mean, do they go on universal basic income? Like what? Cause that's the opposite.

• 1:35:31Speaker 01

  There, there, there's early outlines of that. Um, a, a form has, has been created to help offset the impact of artificial intelligence into day-to-day jobs. That is a real thing that is in place.

• 1:35:48Andy Frisella?

  Okay. So you're saying they're trying to make some guidelines about it?

• 1:35:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're also trying to make, um, I do some advisory work on, on, you know, governmental use of, of AI and whatnot, and they are working day in and day out right now and how to set the guardrails.

• 1:36:07Andy Frisella?

  Well, that's hard to do, bro, because where China doesn't set any.

• 1:36:10Speaker 01

  Correct. It's, it's like GDPR and then the United States doesn't have anything, right? It's like Canada has Castle. Again, we don't have anything, right? It, it's going to create unity worldwide to create that standard. But right now where it's, the reality of it is, it's state by state. And fun fact, do you want to guess what state has the most advanced AI policies?

• 1:36:35Speaker 01

  Any guesses? It's Indiana. Indiana is the most advanced AI government in in the United States.

• 1:36:42Andy Frisella?

  And we we what do you you mean by like as far as like regulation wise?

• 1:36:47Speaker 01

  Uh, proposed regulate again, all of it's in proposal.

• 1:36:50Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:50Speaker 01

  Right, cuz it's it's the way they're going about it right now is from the the big governments, they're trying to take it through TCPA, which that was created twenty something years ago when it was trying to stop spam robots and whatnot. It's not even, they're trying to lump it into cell phone calls when it's totally different. So they're messing up there. That's why it keeps getting up and down, up and they keep saying, hey, now here's this regulation, then taking it down. They just took it down again on trying to put TCPA regulations on AI generated use for business. It's already it's gone in already. Um, but no, what I mean by that from state of Indiana has been implementing AI for like six, seven years now.

• 1:37:33Speaker 01

  They're in their government building, there's three floors, it's AI of how to you use data faster, make better decisions. I mean, their their intentions and how they're going about it is awesome. It's how do we make the convenience of the everyday worker better? So they're going about it great, but yeah, they're they're the most advanced in in the United States.

• 1:37:57Andy Frisella?

  So what do you think? Cuz I have an opinion on this, but what do you think? Like, let's just talk about the influencer thing for a minute, right? Cuz influencers have created a situation where people who otherwise don't have, it's made content creation a career, all right?

• 1:38:12Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 1:38:13Andy Frisella?

  And a lot of people make a lot of money doing it.

• 1:38:19Andy Frisella?

  Clearly, and Gary Vee talks about this too. He's like, dude, influence, you fucking done, like you're done.

• 1:38:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:38:26Andy Frisella?

  And I I can tell you why they're done. They're done because managing influencers and egos that go with influencers is nearly impossible.

• 1:38:36Speaker 01

  That's insane.

• 1:38:37Andy Frisella?

  It it's it's.

• 1:38:41Andy Frisella?

  They don't want to post the right way. They want to do things their way that are ineffective. And then you have to pay them and it's just become this fucking huge cluster fuck. So now there are good influencers that do really good things and they try hard. How do you feel people like that or even just people who want to have a career? Because look, man, part of being fulfilled and part of being happy as a human is, you know, happiness is not skipping through the field of daisies, doing nothing. Like we are built as human beings to contribute, to create, to become. And that's what creates a lot of fulfillment for a lot of people.

• 1:39:24Andy Frisella?

  And, and you know, I spoke about this long before Trump did, but Trump got on stage and said, oh, you know why depression is such a big deal? Because people are fucking lazy and they don't have enough shit to do. They don't work hard enough. It's really hard to be depressed when you're working really hard. It's really hard to be depressed when you're creating and contributing and focused on becoming. And he's correct there. So if we make a world that's more convenient, what's that going to do to the mental health status of humanity as a whole? That's a concern of mine. But speaking on, and by the way, this is no way me denying that this is going to happen. It's fucking happening. It's already that the shit's out of the box already.

• 1:40:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:40:09Andy Frisella?

  So if you're a person, right? And you're like in a company and you know that your job is vulnerable to being replaced by AI. What do you think? How, how can people defend themselves around those things?

• 1:40:25Speaker 01

  Well, right now, and again, going back to buying cycles is you're still in the very infancy of it. And so people that latch on and realize AI is not going anywhere have a huge advantage within large corporations because most large corporations have antiquated leadership styles and very slow to adopt. There's companies still moving to the cloud and still implementing CRM. I mean, it's been

• 1:40:51Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 1:40:51Speaker 01

  twenty seven years of that technology.

• 1:40:53Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Places in our government that still use typewriters, bro. Bro, the government, the government still fucking stores paper files in minds. Yeah.

• 1:41:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's insanity. So if you're in that, okay, this is happening. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna lean into it. You actually have a path to make huge impact within that corporation and create such a layer of protection for yourself because you'll be a source of truth. You know, a lot of leadership and a lot of big companies are older.

• 1:41:25Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:26Speaker 01

  And they can barely even get on their iPhone and open up Facebook, let alone understanding capabilities and implementing AI into and that, you know, ten thousand person organization.

• 1:41:37Andy Frisella?

  For sure.

• 1:41:37Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:41:38Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:38Speaker 01

  So the young generation that's in the workforce now.

• 1:41:42Andy Frisella?

  Needs to learn the technology.

• 1:41:43Speaker 01

  Needs to learn the technology.

• 1:41:46Andy Frisella?

  And figure out how to.

• 1:41:46Speaker 01

  Because they will replace, you know, you don't run a company when you're a hundred.

• 1:41:51Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:51Speaker 01

  So that leadership's gonna cycle.

• 1:41:54Andy Frisella?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:41:54Speaker 01

  And and those young leaders are gonna step up to the plate with, you know, proactive agendas to be able to keep the organization going. So I think it, personally, I think it's one of the greatest opportunity zones the world has ever seen.

• 1:42:08Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, for some people, for sure. No doubt.

• 1:42:11Speaker 01

  But you go to lazy, but you get your lazy people that just shows up.

• 1:42:15Andy Frisella?

  They're gonna get crushed either way.

• 1:42:16Speaker 01

  They're gonna get crushed either way. That's the reality. So.

• 1:42:19Andy Frisella?

  Well, they're getting crushed now because the same thing. It's just, it's.

• 1:42:22Speaker 01

  Different vehicle, but.

• 1:42:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:25Andy Frisella?

  So, so

• 1:42:29Andy Frisella?

  on the influencer standpoint, how I see, I think influencers that that are very authentic and have the ability to to create an actual connection with people will be fine.

• 1:42:40Speaker 01

  They'll, they'll be.

• 1:42:41Andy Frisella?

  They will, they, you will be the anomaly and make, it will make you more valuable. But, bro, that just isn't the culture in influencers anymore.

• 1:42:48Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:42:48Andy Frisella?

  It was in two thousand sixteen. It was in two thousand eighteen. But now it's everybody's fucking Tom Cruise, bro. And everybody's a celebrity and, you know, I, I'm not posting it like. That well, that's the way that converts. Well, that's not on that's not in my brand dynamic. Well, then fuck off.

• 1:43:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:06Andy Frisella?

  You know, like, and and dude, those people are all gonna get replaced with these people. Cause you can't tell the fucking difference.

• 1:43:12Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:43:12Andy Frisella?

  Bro, there's AI pages right now of OnlyFans chicks that fucking have that are making fucking millions of fucking dollars, bro. And it's a fucking cart. It's a it's a fake. It's not even a real person.

• 1:43:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:25Andy Frisella?

  Wild.

• 1:43:26Speaker 01

  Again, we we have a page that does almost four hundred thousand followers. We started with zero, just like everyone else, right? And we did that in a year.

• 1:43:35Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:35Speaker 01

  And all those videos is AI.

• 1:43:37Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:39Speaker 01

  It's insane.

• 1:43:40Andy Frisella?

  It's crazy, dude.

• 1:43:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:42Speaker 02

  That's wild, man. This stuff was.

• 1:43:44Andy Frisella?

  Dude, you know what I like, dude, you know what really scares me, man? Is when these fucking things. Like, isn't it possible for AI to become like its own prompting source? Meaning like, like right now, you're saying.

• 1:43:57Speaker 01

  It can. It already happens.

• 1:43:58Andy Frisella?

  Okay, so so it so it doesn't really matter, the intelligence of the human, because eventually they're gonna be prompting themselves.

• 1:44:06Speaker 01

  So AI is the first can computer program that one plus one doesn't equal two. It could be one plus one equals a black hole, right? So if anyone.

• 1:44:18Andy Frisella?

  What do you mean by that?

• 1:44:20Speaker 01

  People don't understand how prompting this gets this. And and no one has exactly figured it out. You also got to understand AI has been in big business since the nineties. Just no one could afford it. Like unless you were Microsoft or Google. You couldn't afford to have a data center that burns three million dollars a month in hydrogen and everything to to run these things, right? But now the open source models like ChatGPT, they were the front runner, have brought it to the average person. Right? It's it's like the cellphone evolution, right? It a cellphone used to be fifty thousand dollars and weighed two hundred pounds, right?

• 1:45:04Andy Frisella?

  It came in a bag.

• 1:45:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've seen pictures. I didn't see those days, but.

• 1:45:07Andy Frisella?

  I did.

• 1:45:09Andy Frisella?

  The ones in the car.

• 1:45:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, the car.

• 1:45:11Speaker 01

  But now every if you don't have a cellphone, like, what what are you doing, right? You know, so we're going through that that that evolution and. Um, but yeah, people think AI was like this new thing and it's been around.

• 1:45:24Andy Frisella?

  Well, it is new for people.

• 1:45:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's been around a long time, though.

• 1:45:27Andy Frisella?

  What do you think of like Terminator? So. Nah, I'm being serious, bro. Like, here's what fucking scares me. Here's what scares me. You've seen fucking Terminator. What's that movie with Will Smith? I am robot. Okay, but fucking dude, we seen this shit like.

• 1:45:45Andy Frisella?

  Alright, man, that robot's pretty cool. What happens when it starts thinking for itself? And what happens when you say something? Oh, it's doing that. What happens when the AI wants to fuck your chick? Right. And then all of a sudden it beat your ass and takes your chick. And it lasts longer than two minutes. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's dangerous, bro.

• 1:45:59Speaker 01

  You want to watch a really awesome TV series? Watch Cassandra or Cassandra on Netflix. It's literally that.

• 1:46:08Andy Frisella?

  Oh, really?

• 1:46:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:09Andy Frisella?

  Is it scary like that? Oh, is that the mom sick from cancer and like the, she hires like the AI? Who's, isn't that, what's her name? What's her name?

• 1:46:17Speaker 01

  No, that, this is a different one. Yeah.

• 1:46:19Andy Frisella?

  What's it about?

• 1:46:20Speaker 01

  So this family buys this, it was like one of the first smart homes. It was like building the seventies or whatever.

• 1:46:27Andy Frisella?

  Like Jarvis or something?

• 1:46:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's like computer monitors that can, it's like Alexa on a TV screen. It's like this lady and her name's Cassandra.

• 1:46:36Andy Frisella?

  That's the, that's the computer.

• 1:46:37Speaker 01

  Yes, the computer. And the whole basement is, is the computer program, like just imagine a data center in the basement running this thing, right? And the family's like, oh, it's probably, you know, it's so old, it probably doesn't work. Okay, goes to the basement, turns it on and this thing just pops up. Well, then they find the actual robot as well. So it starts off, robots like cutting the grass and cooking, like all these amazing benefits, right? But then it becomes obsessed with its past and wants to become the mother of the kids and be not necessarily in a relationship with the husband, but wants to run the household and does all these

• 1:47:22Speaker 01

  series of events to get the mom to be deemed crazy and she gets put into a mental ward.

• 1:47:27Andy Frisella?

  That's what I'm talking about, dude.

• 1:47:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, yeah.

• 1:47:30Andy Frisella?

  That's what I'm talking about. Like dude, like, like what happens?

• 1:47:33Speaker 01

  That's the robot.

• 1:47:33Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, what happens when like, when, when, when, you know? The police are like, are all fucking AI robots.

• 1:47:41Speaker 01

  Well, you know, I could speak more.

• 1:47:43Andy Frisella?

  That's scary for me.

• 1:47:45Speaker 01

  I bought.

• 1:47:47Andy Frisella?

  They're racist ones.

• 1:47:49Speaker 01

  I, I, I bought a G, G1 robot.

• 1:47:52Andy Frisella?

  The Tesla one?

• 1:47:53Speaker 01

  No, it, look up, uh.

• 1:47:55Andy Frisella?

  G1 robot?

• 1:47:56Speaker 01

  G1 robot, yeah. It gets here in two months.

• 1:47:59Andy Frisella?

  Bro, you bought this thing?

• 1:48:01Speaker 01

  I did, yeah.

• 1:48:01Andy Frisella?

  How much was it?

• 1:48:03Speaker 01

  Um, I bought like everything maxed out, like 65,000.

• 1:48:06Andy Frisella?

  Oh, really?

• 1:48:07Speaker 01

  But we bought it for trade shows.

• 1:48:09Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. What's it do?

• 1:48:11Speaker 01

  Uh, whatever you want it to. Yeah. So, yep, that's it. G1 humanoid. Yeah.

• 1:48:18Andy Frisella?

  You bought this thing?

• 1:48:19Speaker 01

  I did, yeah.

• 1:48:21Andy Frisella?

  You're gonna have it in your house?

• 1:48:22Speaker 01

  No, no, no. We bought it for trade shows. So, um, we, we have a big release coming out with HubSpot and so we got a G1 humanoid for our trade show booth, uh, for HubSpot inbound event this year and this.

• 1:48:39Andy Frisella?

  Bro, damn it. The motherfucker's doing a karate kick.

• 1:48:42Speaker 01

  Oh, so when you buy.

• 1:48:43Andy Frisella?

  Kick your ass, man.

• 1:48:44Speaker 01

  When you buy it, they actually show you a video of it, uh, doing everything you see here.

• 1:48:51Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Bro, look at that. Well, look at that one right there. It's kicking that dude's ass.

• 1:48:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, you know, so you, you prompted, you prompted.

• 1:49:00Andy Frisella?

  Look, they're fighting. It's already happening, man. All right. Now where, where's, where's the picture of him fucking his wife? Like, where is that at?

• 1:49:08Speaker 01

  No, that, no functional, uh.

• 1:49:11Andy Frisella?

  No PP.

• 1:49:12Speaker 01

  Extremities, to my knowledge. Uh, but yeah, so, you know, I could speak to how life's gonna look, uh, here in a few months. If you'll bring me back home. I'll bring it. I'll bring it and you can fuck with it.

• 1:49:25Andy Frisella?

  Bro, what if you, what if you get home and that thing kicks your ass?

• 1:49:28Speaker 01

  So you wanna, you wanna know a real like issue? No, I'm not. It has a kill switch. So.

• 1:49:35Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, you gotta get to it first, dog.

• 1:49:38Speaker 01

  It's on your phone. It's on your phone. But anyways, so you want to hear like a real issue we're dealing with in the company? So we got this thing, right? We can't find insurance to cover it for the show.

• 1:49:50Andy Frisella?

  There's probably not, it doesn't exist yet.

• 1:49:52Speaker 01

  See, see like it's gonna, this stuff's gonna create new industries is what I'm leading to.

• 1:49:56Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:57Speaker 01

  Right? You're gonna have to have insurance on these fuckers, just in case it goes rogue.

• 1:50:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:01Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:50:02Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:03Speaker 01

  Also, you know, the, these humanoids, uh, their batteries are only good for two hours.

• 1:50:11Andy Frisella?

  So they only kick your ass for two hours.

• 1:50:13Speaker 01

  You know.

• 1:50:14Andy Frisella?

  I'm gonna tire them off.

• 1:50:15Speaker 01

  Max.

• 1:50:15Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I'm gonna tire it out.

• 1:50:17Speaker 01

  Max.

• 1:50:18Andy Frisella?

  Bro, we're so fucked.

• 1:50:19Speaker 01

  It's two hours.

• 1:50:20Andy Frisella?

  We're all fucked.

• 1:50:21Speaker 01

  It, it, so the hands, um, it, it can sense like it's picking this up.

• 1:50:27Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:28Speaker 01

  Versus like shaking your hand.

• 1:50:30Andy Frisella?

  Huh.

• 1:50:31Speaker 01

  So it's not gonna be like.

• 1:50:32Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. It only wants to. So it can, it can like, it can like detect like physical, like a human skin. Bro, you guys just covered this in iRobot, dude. They said, hey, you can't do this to people. And then that Sunny, he starts doing it. Yeah.

• 1:50:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. So we, we are doing it to.

• 1:50:48Andy Frisella?

  I gotta see this thing.

• 1:50:49Speaker 01

  Uh, program it. We're gonna program it. You program it.

• 1:50:52Andy Frisella?

  I'm surprised that thing is only 65 grand.

• 1:50:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, it's out of China.

• 1:50:56Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, no shit.

• 1:50:58Speaker 01

  So, um, we're gonna program it to give demos of, uh, sales AI. So that's what we're doing with it. And I, I am not at trade shows. I am gonna see how to get it to do that.

• 1:51:13Andy Frisella?

  Now they got fat ones there. That blue one there.

• 1:51:15Speaker 01

  So I, I wasn't, I wasn't on, uh,

• 1:51:19Speaker 01

  that's DJs.

• 1:51:20Andy Frisella?

  That's DJs.

• 1:51:24Andy Frisella?

  Bro.

• 1:51:24Speaker 01

  Special edition.

• 1:51:25Andy Frisella?

  I ain't gotta wait in no more fast food lines. Oh, man.

• 1:51:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:51:30Andy Frisella?

  I'm okay, bro. Listen, I think it's a pass for me. I mean, that's cool. You know what I'm saying? I'm, I think I'm cool on it, man. I'm, I'm, I'm very concerned. I mean, like.

• 1:51:40Speaker 01

  Andy, I'll, I'm gonna ship one to your house.

• 1:51:41Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I'm very, listen, man. I've seen this, I've seen the movies. I've seen too many movies. Yeah, bro. And I've also run too many companies to understand like, what, like what it's gonna do potentially, but like, you know?

• 1:51:57Andy Frisella?

  I mean dude, business is adapt or die and that's it. I mean, like, you know, consumers could control the adoption of these things, but they won't. They won't do it.

• 1:52:07Speaker 01

  There's too much convenience.

• 1:52:08Andy Frisella?

  They won't do it. Right, bro? Like dude, like, you know how many motherfuckers say they hate Nike and still wear Nike? You know what I'm saying? Like, you know how many people say they know that Amazon's not good for their local economy, but they still use it?

• 1:52:20Speaker 01

  They have a package every day.

• 1:52:21Andy Frisella?

  That's what I'm saying. Like dude, people don't, they don't do that. They'll boycott a fucking company for doing something stupid, but like, they won't look at it. They don't, I don't know, people don't look at it like that. They don't look at it as a preservation of their own utility.

• 1:52:36Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:52:37Speaker 02

  Well, guys, jumping on this conversation, let us know down in the comments what you guys think.

• 1:52:42Andy Frisella?

  I mean, the argument for this is like, like, the argument that I've heard for this is,

• 1:52:49Andy Frisella?

  you know, people are gonna have so much more time to live their life, right?

• 1:52:54Speaker 02

  Hard to live your life when you're broke.

• 1:52:56Andy Frisella?

  Well, yeah, I mean, like, it's true. Yeah, there's, it's not as simple as that is what I'm saying.

• 1:53:03Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:53:03Andy Frisella?

  And like dude, what are we gonna,

• 1:53:07Andy Frisella?

  like, people, okay, like, look, let's just take 75 hard, for example. Like, when you grab someone who's never heard of 75 hard, and you're like, hey, look dude, you're gonna do all this extra shit, but it's gonna make you feel powerful. It's gonna make you feel fulfilled. It's gonna give you confidence. It's gonna give you belief in yourself. That comes from the work. That comes from the creation. That comes from the contribution to others and self. And if we take that away from society,

• 1:53:41Andy Frisella?

  there's gonna be people that don't, they, like,

• 1:53:45Andy Frisella?

  it, I don't know, I think, dude, I, I don't know, I honestly, like, it is very, I'm very- Good with vision. I think that's my biggest trait. It's just hard for me to see where this is gonna go. You know what I mean?

• 1:53:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, man.

• 1:53:59Andy Frisella?

  Long term.

• 1:53:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:54:00Andy Frisella?

  Like, I, I really like, I'm, it makes me nervous, like, dude, like, cause like, how, the military's already fucking using this, I guarantee it, dude. They're already making these humanoid robots and shit.

• 1:54:09Speaker 01

  Oh, well, I mean, that's been, they've had dogs.

• 1:54:12Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:13Speaker 01

  Uh, for years now, in, in, in service.

• 1:54:16Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:16Speaker 01

  You know, so, you know, my, the vision that I carry with it is, it, it will make some negative impact, but ultimately will create a whole new realm of business opportunity and capitalism. Because thing about industries that still suck, law sucks, banking sucks, all these industries that haven't created convenience are now for the taking because of artificial intelligence, which creates all these sub-markets and niches to serve.

• 1:54:51Andy Frisella?

  I could certainly see where it could clean up a lot of corruption because it could be black and white, but I could also see,

• 1:55:00Andy Frisella?

  I mean, we've seen this in biases in chat GPT and in these other prompt AI services, like, so it's, you know, some of them have been programmed with pre, with biases. You know, so it's, I don't know, dude, like, I really don't. That's why I wanted you to come on and talk about it. Because I don't think anybody knows.

• 1:55:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:55:17Andy Frisella?

  I mean, I, I think, I think you think you know, but like, real talk, we don't know.

• 1:55:22Speaker 01

  No, no, I, I've told you earlier in the show, I don't claim to be an AI expert.

• 1:55:26Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, well, you are. You, you are an AI expert, but we still, we just don't know how it's gonna evolve.

• 1:55:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:55:33Andy Frisella?

  We have a good idea.

• 1:55:34Speaker 01

  There, there's, there's too many, too many paths, but like, the, the reality of making strong business decision, decisions with AI is you don't just go all in with one. So how we approach that? Sales AI is a platform that services the customer, but I am not married to a single large language model, which that's how these things get created, right?

• 1:56:01Andy Frisella?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:56:02Speaker 01

  We use the best of the best for the situation. So if you have a use case for sales, there's a specific large language model that is best for that. If you're using it for customer support, there's a best use case for that.

• 1:56:18Andy Frisella?

  What's a large language model for people that don't know?

• 1:56:22Speaker 01

  It is a composed stack of computers and in data centers that process data and anything and everything on the internet faster than a human can blink. And so that's what creates, that's why when you talk to AI, it's not one plus one equals two. If you ask chat GPT a question, it'll create all these scenarios because it knows everything. It's linked to everything that's ever been put on the internet. And that's why.

• 1:56:52Andy Frisella?

  Well, that's another thing, like some of the information that it comes out with is not true. Like, for example, uh, none of the information on me about my company's income, my income, my address, my age, none of that shit's correct.

• 1:57:07Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:57:08Andy Frisella?

  None of it's correct intentionally. And I don't report, we, none of my companies have reporting to the public.

• 1:57:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:14Andy Frisella?

  None of them, this is all, so it's all guestimates, but when you type in, it comes up with numbers and shit. It just makes them up. So like, there's that too.

• 1:57:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:26Andy Frisella?

  Right? Like, how do we know what the information? What's the accuracy? Correct.

• 1:57:29Speaker 01

  And, and like, speaking to, to our company, you do not, we isolate your use case in your business for you. We don't take your data and then make XYZ customer better because we're using your data. We, we actually isolate that, right? When you're using our product, it is just you and you do have, I want AI to assist here, but these are the facts and you do not deviate. And it will not deviate from the facts, right? And so there are controls.

• 1:58:05Andy Frisella?

  So it depends on who's programming it.

• 1:58:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Again, if you have good intentions to, to make the world a better place, you can make the world a better place. And if you have ill intentions, you can do to some major disruption.

• 1:58:17Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Well, listen dude.

• 1:58:22Andy Frisella?

  Listen guys, I know Devin, he's a great fucking dude. And that's why I wanted to bring him on to talk about these things because obviously I have been very anti. Because dude, I love people.

• 1:58:31Speaker 01

  I do too.

• 1:58:32Andy Frisella?

  You know what I'm saying? I love, but I mean, like I've employed people for 26 years, bro. My most proud that I am of anything is when these guys build a career and go out and get a house and a car and build a fam. Like I fuck, dude, I'm cool. I'm good. You know what I'm saying? That's where I get my satisfaction and it breaks my heart to think that that could change. And, uh, you know, it's something that I'm very concerned with. So.

• 1:58:58Speaker 01

  Well, it's.

• 1:58:58Andy Frisella?

  And but dude, what I, what I, what I, what I want to get to though, is I appreciate that you come on and are open and honest about it. And help us bring some clarity to the ins and outs. And I would definitely love to keep the conversation going, having you come on as this develops over time.

• 1:59:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, for sure, man. Yeah. The, the reality is perception controls a lot of things. And so if you perceive that it is going to do harm, ultimately you will approach everything with a tough mindset, right? It's going to be really hard to break through that. So if you perceive that there can be mutual benefits in, in building companies and so on and so forth. You will find a massively beneficial way to leverage AI.

• 1:59:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I, I, I don't disagree with that. I just, I like to evaluate everything.

• 1:59:43Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:59:43Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Well, guys, jump in on this conversation. Let us know down in the comments what you guys think. We got one final segment for you guys as always. We have thumbs up or dumb as fuck. That's where we bring a headline in, we talk about it to get one of those two options. Um, so with that being said, our thumbs up or dumb as fuck headline reads Colombian police catch a man smuggling packets of cocaine under toupee.

• 2:00:09Andy Frisella?

  I say A for effort. I actually already saw this.

• 2:00:12Speaker 01

  You saw?

• 2:00:12Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:14Speaker 02

  So, uh, we go to Bogota, California.

• 2:00:18Andy Frisella?

  It's not Bogota.

• 2:00:19Speaker 02

  What is it?

• 2:00:19Andy Frisella?

  That's Bogota.

• 2:00:21Speaker 02

  Where's that? I don't see a H. Bogota.

• 2:00:26Andy Frisella?

  Okay. Say it the way you want. We'll see what the internet does with it.

• 2:00:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:31Andy Frisella?

  I'm always trying to help you out.

• 2:00:32Speaker 02

  Bugatti Columbia. Bugata?

• 2:00:35Andy Frisella?

  Buguti.

• 2:00:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:36Andy Frisella?

  Let's make it up, man. Who cares?

• 2:00:38Speaker 01

  It looks like Bogota.

• 2:00:39Speaker 02

  It does look like Bogota. Yeah, that's how, yeah. Uh, Colombian P- police apprehend, uh, a forty year old man.

• 2:00:46Andy Frisella?

  It's Bogota, just so you know.

• 2:00:47Speaker 02

  Bogota.

• 2:00:48Andy Frisella?

  I'm a hundred percent certain.

• 2:00:49Speaker 02

  Okay, alright.

• 2:00:51Andy Frisella?

  Well, you could say Bogota.

• 2:00:52Speaker 02

  Okay, I appreciate it.

• 2:00:53Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, say it.

• 2:00:54Speaker 02

  Bogota.

• 2:00:55Andy Frisella?

  Alright.

• 2:00:58Speaker 02

  Buy one, get one.

• 2:01:02Andy Frisella?

  Buy one, get one TNA.

• 2:01:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, right, right. Uh, Colombian police apprehended a forty year old man attempting to smuggle several bags of cocaine, concealed beneath a meticulously attached toupee. Police said the suspect was detained. What's that one? Cartagena's?

• 2:01:18Andy Frisella?

  Cart- Cartagena.

• 2:01:19Speaker 02

  Carta- where's the H?

• 2:01:21Andy Frisella?

  That's what the fuck it is, man. I'm just telling you.

• 2:01:25Speaker 02

  I know this dude. I've met this guy.

• 2:01:28Andy Frisella?

  That's who?

• 2:01:28Speaker 02

  Ca- Cartagena.

• 2:01:30Andy Frisella?

  Okay.

• 2:01:30Speaker 02

  It's a name. Airport on Monday as he prepared to board a flight to Amsterdam.

• 2:01:35Andy Frisella?

  What's his first name?

• 2:01:36Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 2:01:37Andy Frisella?

  What was his first name? Tyrone?

• 2:01:41Speaker 01

  Kyle.

• 2:01:42Andy Frisella?

  Kyle.

• 2:01:44Speaker 02

  Yep. Uh, but yeah, they called him and so she was going from Columbi- Columbia to Amsterdam and, uh, allegedly there to party. Let's check this clip out.

• 2:01:55Speaker 02

  Bruh.

• 2:02:08Speaker 02

  A little off the top.

• 2:02:09Andy Frisella?

  This guy's just sitting there knowing he's totally fucked.

• 2:02:14Speaker 01

  It's like the head hold of shame.

• 2:02:16Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:16Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Bro.

• 2:02:19Speaker 01

  At this point, he knows he fucked up.

• 2:02:21Andy Frisella?

  That's right. Dude, a hundred percent. How do you get caught with that?

• 2:02:25Speaker 02

  That's what I'm trying to figure out. Cause that dude, that's actually pretty good.

• 2:02:28Speaker 01

  You know, he went to the barber and was like, hey, leave the sides, shave the top.

• 2:02:33Andy Frisella?

  That's probably how he got busted.

• 2:02:34Speaker 02

  They x-rayed him. They x-rayed him.

• 2:02:39Andy Frisella?

  Oh, see that? This is why we don't like technology Devon. That's where it is. We can't fucking take cocaine to Amsterdam for a good time anymore. We need the booger sugar.

• 2:02:50Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 2:02:51Andy Frisella?

  That was good, that was a for effort though.

• 2:02:53Speaker 01

  He like put it in perfect little circles too. So much effort went into this attempt, you know? You know his buddies are like, oh, he'll be here Monday.

• 2:03:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:05Andy Frisella?

  Fuck. Where's Kyle at? Party start, man, where's Kyle? Where's Kyle Cartagena? From, from Bogota.

• 2:03:17Speaker 01

  I always loved to meet the barber that had to give this haircut. Cause you know the barber's like, what the fuck is happening?

• 2:03:24Andy Frisella?

  Bro, it looks, I mean, it looks pretty good. It did look good. How do you get caught? Did it say? The x-ray. The x-ray caught him? Yeah, the x-ray caught him. Man, you know, you know how like, you know how in, in the, dude, you know how like you go to the airport? They got the fucking, they, they got where you could just walk through the metal detector or the x-ray? Yeah. Cause that's how they got it still, right? Yeah. I haven't been in airport a minute. But the, like, he's probably thinking, I'm gonna go through the metal detector and then probably like, they probably like, put some per, they like pointed and, and made you through here and he's like, fuck!

• 2:03:58Speaker 01

  He, he forgot his TSA pre-check number.

• 2:04:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, fucking got him.

• 2:04:03Andy Frisella?

  Bro, I smuggled some fucking weed pills into Mexico one time. I did. I did, you fuckers didn't catch me either. I thought they were gonna, bro, we fucking, we fucking went to Mexico and I had some edible, I don't even know if I, is that illegal? Is that illegal for, to, to talk about it now? Yes. Is it? Well, fuck it. I went, I allegedly went to Mexico one time. I, I didn't do it, but if I did it, this is how I would have done it. Okay, there we go. Yeah, so if I would have done this, um, I had some edibles in my bag and I forgot that like, cause it's legal here. And I forgot that it's not legal there. Where it came from? So. I get off the plane and right as I get off the plane, bro, there's dogs and shit and I'm like, oh fuck.

• 2:04:47Andy Frisella?

  Oh, fuck. And I totally forgot that it was like, cause everywhere I go, I take my fucking weed pills. And, uh, I totally forgot and I'm like, fuck, I got like real nervous, dude. Like, you know how like, you know how like when you get that like inside nervous? Your asshole got tight? Yes, but like you can't, but you're like shaking, but you don't know if anybody notices. Yeah. I'm like, fuck dude. Fucking hands are sweaty. I'm going to fucking Mexican jail. So, so dude, in Mexico, like you guys who've been to Mexico, you know, like most of the places in Mexico, they got a, the customs is different. Yeah. Like you go in and you touch the fucking button and it either gives you a red light, then they search your bag or a green light and they let you go. So, like I'm fucking waiting in line and I'm like,

• 2:05:28Andy Frisella?

  fuck, fuck. I'm like sweating a little bit and like, like dude, I'm not even telling, you know, I'm not even saying nothing. I fucking go up there, I hit the green, the light turns green.

• 2:05:41Andy Frisella?

  Fucking weed. On the party. So, so dude, I had like a whole, I had whole, like a whole container, which dude, I was there for like a week. You don't eat a whole container in a week, but I didn't want to bring them back. So I'm like, so I fucking ate a whole container in a week. But yeah, that's my, you guys didn't catch me. Alleged, alleged story there. In my story. Hmm. It's fictional. It's just a little lumpy, like whoever put it on him. Yeah. Yeah. I say A for effort, bro. I mean, it's definitely creative. I've never heard of that before. No, I mean.

• 2:06:14Speaker 01

  When you were saying toupee, I was like, what the fuck is a toupee?

• 2:06:16Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:17Speaker 01

  I gotta be honest.

• 2:06:18Andy Frisella?

  Oh, you did.

• 2:06:18Speaker 01

  I didn't know what a fucking toupee was.

• 2:06:20Andy Frisella?

  Bro, do you ever notice that like, like do you, do, do, Joe, you're about my age. Remember like when we were kids or like in school and there was all the teachers and they had, they were balled around the crown of their head, but they had hair over here. Hmm. How come we don't see nobody with that haircut anymore? I know, but like you never see that anymore. What happened to that? Turkey. Turkey? People start going to Turkey. People start going to Turkey. Bro, half my teachers growing up, they had bald head and hair around the outside. That was.

• 2:06:55Speaker 01

  Everybody does like DJ does and they just shaving now.

• 2:06:58Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. It's a good, it's a good look. You didn't think it was a good look? I was nervous for a minute there. You got a picture of your old look? Nope. Yeah, well, we'll put it, find a picture of DJ's old look and put it up here in the show post-production. See, that's how you used to look. Yeah. Who convinced you to change it?

• 2:07:19Andy Frisella?

  What was that guy's? That Andy Consella guy, Randy Consella. Kyle, what was that name? Kyle Cortegina? Cortegina. From Bogota. From Bogota.

• 2:07:28Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, man, what are we giving this? I'm giving him an A for effort. A for effort? I'm giving him an F. I don't know if he got fucked. Like, how bad he got? Let me see what's in there. About ten, ten grand? About fifteen grand worth of coke?

• 2:07:41Speaker 01

  I got three years.

• 2:07:42Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, shit.

• 2:07:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:45Andy Frisella?

  He's all right. I'm sure he's. I mean, that ain't worth three years of your fucking life. No. No. Bro, violent offenders fucking kill people, get out in three years. That's real. That's real. Well, A for effort, man. Anyway. Better luck next time. Yeah, don't do drugs. I'm sure it won't be his last. Guys. Andy Devin, that's all I got. Yeah, Devon, uh, throw, throw people your website and your Instagram so they can know where to follow you.

• 2:08:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, website, salesai.com, all one word. And then Instagram is Devon Allen Johnson, all one word as well.

• 2:08:18Andy Frisella?

  Cool.

• 2:08:18Speaker 01

  That's D V I N.

• 2:08:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, spell it out for him.

• 2:08:21Speaker 01

  D V I N A L L E N Johnson, J O H N S O N.

• 2:08:26Andy Frisella?

  DJ too. Mm-hmm. Avion Johnson, Devin Johnson. You got the twelve over there?

• 2:08:31Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 2:08:32Andy Frisella?

  What size you get?

• 2:08:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, right.

• 2:08:38Andy Frisella?

  Well, we white boys got the twelve around.

• 2:08:40Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:08:40Andy Frisella?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 2:08:41Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:08:41Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, you don't know nothing about that.

• 2:08:43Speaker 01

  It's about the motion of the ocean, bro.

• 2:08:44Andy Frisella?

  All right, all right. All right. Devon, thanks for coming on, bro.

• 2:08:49Speaker 01

  All right, thanks for having me.

• 2:08:49Andy Frisella?

  Appreciate your expertise. Um, looking forward to learning more and more about this with you.

• 2:08:54Speaker 01

  Next time I'll bring the robot.

• 2:08:55Andy Frisella?

  Okay, cool. We'll give him a chair.

• 2:08:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:58Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Can you be the first podcast that ever had a AI robot on it? Yeah, programming to be racist. I want to see how this conversation goes.

• 2:09:05Speaker 01

  I I I'll I'll bring my computer and I'll program it in between segments for you just give me a uh what you want.

• 2:09:13Andy Frisella?

  Alright, I'm down with it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Alright guys, that's the show. Don't be a hoe. Share the show.

• 2:09:21Speaker 07

  Went from sleeping on the floor, now my jury box froze. Fuck a boat, fuck a stove, counted millions in the cold. Bad bitch, booty swole, got her on bankroll. Can't fold, just a no. Headshot, case closed.