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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:44Paige DeSorbo?

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• 2:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, Gigglers?

• 2:06Speaker 01

  Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shirt. We can't be managed.

• 2:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 2:19Hannah Berner?

  Hello, my Radio City gigglers. Even if you weren't here this last week, we felt you. At Radio City-

• 2:26Paige DeSorbo?

  No, literally.

• 2:27Hannah Berner?

  We're basically the Rockettes if they had an attitude problem. If they were very grumpy and didn't like to actually go to the gym.

• 2:37Paige DeSorbo?

  We are. We are out of shape Rockettes.

• 2:39Hannah Berner?

  Yes, the Rockettes never left their bed and just send each other memes all day. Um, dude, shout out to the Rockettes.

• 2:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Shout out. I love them. You wanna know what? I've never seen the Rockettes ever, and I feel like that's so not page-coded.

• 2:52Hannah Berner?

  That's so not page-coded. I saw the Rockettes. And it's funny, when you're younger, you literally are like... They just seem like Barbie dolls. Also, you're dying. You're like, sick.

• 3:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually think I have bronchitis.

• 3:05Hannah Berner?

  Can you spell bronchitis?

• 3:08Hannah Berner?

  There's an H.

• 3:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, then no.

• 3:13Hannah Berner?

  Once there's an H thrown, you're like, "You got me."

• 3:16Paige DeSorbo?

  A silent H? Get the fuck out of here. No. I don't do silent H's.

• 3:22Hannah Berner?

  Quick, okay, highlights of Radio City. I'll start.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 3:25Hannah Berner?

  Or you start.

• 3:27Paige DeSorbo?

  My favorite moment by far beyond "It doesn't compare to anything" is when me and you by ourselves walked out onto the stage at like 5 o'clock before any... Before the doors opened. I... I instantly started crying, which is so not... I got so overwhelmed by looking out into like the empty crowd and standing on that stage that I instantly couldn't hold it in.

• 3:54Hannah Berner?

  And Paige never cries, so I was like that meme where like you're holding like a broom and you start tapping your friend to be like, "How are you feeling?" Like, and then I was like hugging you, but then I was like, "Does she need space?" Like... But yeah, you... I also think like you'd been holding it in a bit.

• 4:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:10Hannah Berner?

  And you know when you start crying over something, but then it keeps going and you're like, "Okay, you just tripped." You had one trip.

• 4:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, well, it's because-

• 4:17Hannah Berner?

  "Life is so difficult."

• 4:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it's also for us, like I feel like, not to sound like sappy or whatever, I feel like when we started Giggly Squad, even up into, up until we started our tour, there was so much noise about like-

• 4:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, giggles got stupid and like, what do they even do? And like, oh, they just like talk to each other and they think they're so cool and like-

• 4:42Hannah Berner?

  Okay, that's literally just for men, but continue.

• 4:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's, no, that's what I mean. Like, to have someone in your ear constantly of being like, oh, what is this tour? And like, I mean, like, do you really think you're gonna like, blah, blah, blah, whatever? To stand in that moment and just be like, suck my dick.

• 5:00Hannah Berner?

  We're so Sicilian.

• 5:02Paige DeSorbo?

  We're so Sicilian. You use JoJo Siwa karma.

• 5:08Hannah Berner?

  Wait, okay, so I got this video of me doing the worm slow-mo and I was like, this, I have to post this.

• 5:14Paige DeSorbo?

  It writes itself.

• 5:15Hannah Berner?

  It writes itself. But then I was like, I was like, do I do a Glorilla? Do I do Frank Sinatra? I went through all of them and then I just funny clicked JoJo Siwa and I was like, wait, why is this fucking perfection? But this is for all those people out there who might be going through something or you feel like you've been wronged in a way or people are out to get to you. First of all, if people are out to get to you, that means you're shining. That means they're trying to dim a light that you have. You might not see the light, but they see it and that's why they're trying to dim it. And if you keep working hard, you will rise above it all, motherfuckers.

• 5:46Paige DeSorbo?

  No, my enemies have been working fucking overtime. I actually don't know where they find me hours. I'm like, TikTok's back, why don't you take a breather? Take a fucking minute, bitch.

• 5:55Hannah Berner?

  I just have to say, what happened with TikTok? Was that not TikTok just being like, gotcha?

• 6:03Paige DeSorbo?

  TikTok is a giggler. They literally came back and was just like, gotcha.

• 6:08Hannah Berner?

  Gotcha, but, okay, why? I know people love trends, but when everyone was just like revealing secrets and I actually wrote a couple, what, what was that trend? Why are people acting like the world was gonna end? I'm like, guys, why are we acting like this is the last time we're gonna see you ever and we're all going off the face of the earth?

• 6:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's why I have a small circle of friends and it's because I truly don't believe that anyone like gets me as a person. Some of the information these bitches were putting out, you'd have to waterboard out of me.

• 6:43Hannah Berner?

  I wrote some of my favorite ones. First of all, it came, it came out that like this influencer who's, everyone's paying a lot of money for her glute workouts, has a BBL.

• 6:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, no way.

• 6:56Hannah Berner?

  That's a lot of them. That's a lot of them. It's giving Legally Blonde when she was like, I'm getting liposuctioned. It's getting liposuction. That it's the same thing and girls were all upset. Then a girl who does workouts was like, I want to let you guys know I wasn't doing any of the workouts. It's like.

• 7:15Hannah Berner?

  And then a girl who her whole thing was making coffee every day was like, I've never drank the coffee.

• 7:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, wait, that's fucking hilarious.

• 7:22Hannah Berner?

  And then.

• 7:24Paige DeSorbo?

  She was a coffee influencer?

• 7:26Hannah Berner?

  And then some of the girls were like, yeah, I've been on Ozempic.

• 7:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I liked those ones.

• 7:31Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I loved those. Um, I felt like it was a time for people to. It was, it felt like the Titanic where we're all about to get off and you're like, anyone want to say anything? Anyone get anything off their chest? And then the Titanic didn't sink.

• 7:46Paige DeSorbo?

  They were like, oh, wait, actually we found a life raft and you're like, okay. You know, the Sebastian Maniscalco skit where like his, I think it's the name of one of his specials where he's just like, aren't you embarrassed? Like when people were crying and then it came back, I was like, aren't you embarrassed? Like delete it.

• 8:06Hannah Berner?

  When it was gone for a night? Well, first of all, everyone freaked out because they did it early, which was fucked up. Like, don't say it's going down on Sunday and then it goes down early and everyone was probably like enjoying their last couple of moments, but.

• 8:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 8:19Hannah Berner?

  Let's be honest. People low key had the most freeing couple hours of their life.

• 8:26Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I started, when it came back, I actually felt like, oh my God, I'm like trapped by social media. Like even if you get away from it, it's like, it's, people are still on there chatting.

• 8:37Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's like when Instagram goes down or even like COVID, we all for a second were like, oh, well, I'm not feeling guilty for not like going outside because no one's going outside. That's how I felt. But people were posting the funniest TikToks when it came back. Someone was like, I had so much fun learning about who my kids are last night.

• 8:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah, I saw a bunch of women being like, decided to get to know my husband last night. He's pretty cool.

• 9:04Hannah Berner?

  I actually started reading. I learned how to read yesterday.

• 9:09Paige DeSorbo?

  No, there was a moment when like that Sunday when I was like, oh, it's going down tonight that I was like, maybe I'll start puzzling. Maybe I'll get a hobby.

• 9:17Hannah Berner?

  No, I was like, should I become a painter?

• 9:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:22Hannah Berner?

  I think it was beautiful, but also like so many people are able to monetize it and.

• 9:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, that part is like, I'm so happy for like the small business people who have like their whole lives have changed. Like that's. But they're hustlers, so they would have like hustled somewhere else. Like I, like if you started a small business and were able to quit your corporate job and like live, you're a fucking hustler and I'm proud of you.

• 9:48Hannah Berner?

  I just want us to all keep our eyes open. Like I am just worried about like, who's in power and why and like what algorithm they're trying to push on us. But hopefully it just helps us all get that bag and be entertained, whatever you do. One more thing about the gigglers. When I feel like we're performing for the gigglers, I don't feel like it's like we're the stars and they're like fans, like.

• 10:17Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it felt like we all made it.

• 10:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but also like in the crowd, like they're like joking back at us.

• 10:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:23Hannah Berner?

  Which is like the comments.

• 10:24Paige DeSorbo?

  No, so many girls in the front were saying comments that then I repeated into the microphone because it was fucking hilarious.

• 10:30Hannah Berner?

  They're fucking, they're in it with us. It felt like a big crazy brunch. And then we did a Q and A at the end and this girl raises her hand and she's like, can I come on stage? And Paige was like, do you have a gun? Like there's like, has to be some more context to this.

• 10:45Paige DeSorbo?

  No, also, there is never any security at Giggly Squad because I don't think the men at the theater know what's about to go down. So like.

• 10:54Hannah Berner?

  We've had security straight up be like, if something did go down, I can't take on 6,000 girls.

• 11:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:01Hannah Berner?

  Like, what do you want me to do? Tackle a girl? We're not gonna let you touch her. Don't fucking touch her. So then she's like, can I just go on stage and show you something? And in that moment, I'm like, okay, she's a giggler. Like, we let her do anything.

• 11:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, do whatever you want.

• 11:15Hannah Berner?

  Do whatever you want. So she goes on stage and we start, we're like, are you doing the worm? Like, what are you doing? And she's like, just watch, just watch. She does like a Rocket kick down into a split.

• 11:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she was perfect.

• 11:26Hannah Berner?

  The whole crowd loses their mind. And I'm like, wait, all of you could be on stage right now?

• 11:34Hannah Berner?

  It was like a talent show for the giggler.

• 11:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's so crazy. One girl posted and it really just, oh, I just felt like such a feminist icon. It made me so proud of us. She was like, Giggly Squad is proof that women do not dress for men. There is not a man in sight at Giggly Squad unless he is a taken boyfriend. And if that's the case, we're not fucking looking at him. So the girls coming in their outfits, I was just so proud to be a girl. Also, New York City, the girls can dress, honey. Like, they looked so fucking good.

• 12:09Hannah Berner?

  The girls, it's so funny too, who's dressing for you and who's dressing for me?

• 12:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:14Hannah Berner?

  And it's to the point that like, I feel bad complimenting a girl who's clearly so page coded because I almost feel like she'll be insulted if I think her outfit's cute.

• 12:23Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the ties and like the bows, it was just, you know where you are.

• 12:29Hannah Berner?

  It was a perfect synergy.

• 12:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Radio City truly felt like the new house of Scientology, you know?

• 12:36Hannah Berner?

  Well, someone said something like, TikTok is the new TV.

• 12:42Hannah Berner?

  Movies, like watching a movie on TV is like the new movie theater. And then movie theaters are like the new concerts. And then concerts are like a full cult meeting.

• 12:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. No, we had, we started a cult. We low-key started a cult.

• 13:01Hannah Berner?

  Joel Olsteen for Hot Girls.

• 13:04Paige DeSorbo?

  It's crazy. We started on Instagram Live with like 3,000 girls.

• 13:08Hannah Berner?

  See, that's why when people be talking shit about Instagram, I'm like, look.

• 13:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Put some respect on it.

• 13:13Hannah Berner?

  Put some respects on Instagram Lives during COVID for keeping us afloat during our dark, dark demonic times.

• 13:19Paige DeSorbo?

  What a time to be alive that was.

• 13:22Hannah Berner?

  What a time to be alive. Also, I do have to say, I used to think that like, straight guys should come on, come to Giggly Squad if they were smart, because it's just all like the hottest, smartest girls, funniest girls, most successful girls in every city, like come together that in a show, but then I realized the girls by the end of the show want to stone a man. Like, it's actually unsafe for them.

• 13:46Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I feel like the empowerment, when you leave a Giggly Squad show, you're like, I can fucking do anything. Like, I truly feel like the next president of the United States was in the crowd, you know, and she was wearing a tie.

• 14:04Hannah Berner?

  The gigglers in the male bathroom, and then there'd be like a dude in the bathroom, and they literally beat his ass to be like, get out of here, it's for the girls.

• 14:12Paige DeSorbo?

  One of my, one of my girlfriends came to the show and her boyfriend after the show was like, you know, I was in the men's bathroom and I was uncomfortable. Should I not be in there? I was like, no, get the fuck out of there, hold it.

• 14:23Hannah Berner?

  No, and now you know how it feels to be a woman 24/7 on this earth.

• 14:27Paige DeSorbo?

  He was like, the line was crazy. I'm like, well, that's where we make friends, okay?

• 14:33Hannah Berner?

  So my dad actually could not come to Radio City because he had COVID. Who knew? That that was a thing in 2025, and like, he got it bad. Like, he was out for the count.

• 14:46Paige DeSorbo?

  He was down bad.

• 14:47Hannah Berner?

  So like, down, down bad. So I call him, yes, no, he called me, humble brag, which we joke about, like, when your dad calls you. Two things are happening.

• 14:57Paige DeSorbo?

  He didn't mean to. It was a butt dial or your entire family is dead.

• 15:02Hannah Berner?

  So I was worried. He goes, hey, I'm so proud of you. I saw the photos. You guys looked amazing. I'm really excited for your book to come out. And I was like, what? Like, that's in April. What are you talking about? And he goes, my mom, he goes, your, your mom sent me like a copy of the final book, and I, I read it all weekend. And I was like, wait, what? And he goes, it's the best book I ever read.

• 15:33Hannah Berner?

  I was like, what? And he goes,

• 15:34Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 15:36Hannah Berner?

  He goes, "I feel so inspired," but I was laughing. He goes, "This book is gonna be amazing." And I'm like, "Dad, we didn't even get a quote from you on the back of the book. I didn't even know you knew we had a book coming out."

• 15:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait. Can I add that we literally set up a playdate with our dads? And I felt like, I felt like your dad, I felt like my dad was being like, "Can I have a sleepover with Danny?" Or like, "Is that okay?" You know? Like, when my dad heard that your dad wasn't coming to Radio City, my dad's whole night was ruined.

• 16:10Hannah Berner?

  He was like, "Wait, what?" He was so upset. And when I said COVID, he thought I was lying. And then my dad goes,

• 16:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Call him.

• 16:16Hannah Berner?

  My dad goes, "How's Gary?" And I was like, "Gary's great." And he goes, "Could I text him? Like, is that weird?" And I'm like, "I don't even know if Gary has a, if Cam lets Gary have a phone."

• 16:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I know what's so funny is my dad doesn't have an email address.

• 16:28Hannah Berner?

  I, see, that's the energy I was getting.

• 16:31Paige DeSorbo?

  That's the energy my dad gives. The energy my father gives is, I don't know, ask him. Like, why the fuck would I have an email address?

• 16:38Hannah Berner?

  Why are all moms so much better with technology than dads? Like, my mom has Facebook, Instagram. She knows how to use Google Docs.

• 16:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Women put in the time. They put in the time to learn what they don't know.

• 16:53Hannah Berner?

  Cause men wanted to be the 50s still, when they still were in power. So they're not updating anything. I love that he doesn't have an email.

• 17:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we truly have the epitome of girl dads.

• 17:07Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. My dad, remember with the Knicks game, we took a photo? And I was like, "Okay, I'll post it on your Instagram for you." And he goes, "Put it in an Insta story." And I was like, "You don't want to put me on your grid?" And he's like, "No, I like to see who's looking at it." And I was like,

• 17:24Paige DeSorbo?

  My mom thanked me the other day for putting um her on my grid. She was like, "That was really sweet of you." I was like, "Oh my god, I'm obsessed with you guys."

• 17:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, I'm glad one of our parents wants to put...

• 17:38Hannah Berner?

  Wants to be on someone's grid. No, my dad straight up was like, "Do not put our photo on my grid. I don't want that. It's gonna ruin my grid."

• 17:43Paige DeSorbo?

  The aesthetic.

• 17:44Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 17:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, speaking of grids, what do you think about Instagram changing the like length of the photo?

• 17:51Hannah Berner?

  That threw me.

• 17:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It threw me. And everything's like shifted to the left?

• 17:56Hannah Berner?

  We organized... Yeah, it's not done. I feel like they're like in the middle of something, but it's like... Uh, we put it as a square, so when you make it longer... Also, now I don't know what's... Look. Again, we never like change and then we don't care.

• 18:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Social media is like going through it right now. Social media is like mercury and retrograde. They're like trying to figure out their path.

• 18:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. And like I s- I support it. It's just... Do you remember when we got so upset about Insta stories? Like we lost our mind. We were like, "This is Snapchat. This is just Snapchat." Like we were so mad.

• 18:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, for the longest I like couldn't put music on my grid or my stories. I just got it fixed right before Radio City. Thank god.

• 18:36Hannah Berner?

  Thank god. Um, we both went differently. I did Frank Sinatra old school and you went like Cameron?

• 18:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I went I went old school rap Cameron.

• 18:48Hannah Berner?

  So Paige is back in her music era?

• 18:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Sure am.

• 18:53Hannah Berner?

  And one thing we don't tell the gigglers, which is I forgot, cuz you, I don't think you listened to music for like four years, which was disturbing. Um, which we should have checked on that.

• 19:05Hannah Berner?

  You're like, "It was too loud up here."

• 19:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I was like, "There's so much noise in my brain. I couldn't actually think about listening to someone else."

• 19:14Hannah Berner?

  One thing about me and you is we love hardcore, pussy popping, misogynistic, offensive, fucked up rap. Like, we were getting our makeup done and I was like, "Let's put music on."

• 19:30Paige DeSorbo?

  At one point, I think your mom was like, "Oh. Oh no." Is this getting you guys pumped up? I was like, actually.

• 19:38Hannah Berner?

  In the most female empowering green room, like so powerful and I'm like, put on some rap about fucking bitches and strippers.

• 19:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Getting money, yeah.

• 19:47Hannah Berner?

  And getting money. Um, we, we do have the same taste in music.

• 19:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I told someone, they were like, oh, what's like your walkout song? And I was like, actually, it's like ASAP Rocky, like, fucking problems. And they were like, they were like, wait, really? Like, I would have thought you guys would have had something like poppier, like girlier, like a female rapper. And I was like, I don't know. It was the first ever song from the very first live we ever did and we've never changed it. Because it is just such a fucking vibe. And I feel like when we're walking out, it's like, we're saying to the girls in the crowd, like, you're a bad bitch.

• 20:25Hannah Berner?

  Yes. I love bad bitches. That's my fucking problem. And yeah, I like to fuck. I got a fucking problem. That's some empowering shit that we have taken.

• 20:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, no, I've taken that. Whatever ASAP Rocky is married to.

• 20:39Hannah Berner?

  He's a girl's girl.

• 20:40Paige DeSorbo?

  One of the most feminist bitches on the planet who is like an icon runs shit. So like, if he, if anyone knows, it's him.

• 20:48Hannah Berner?

  So my new walkout song, because I've been doing fucking problems forever, for my new standup, I'm coming up with ASAP Ferg. I don't know what's going on with the ASAPs.

• 21:00Paige DeSorbo?

  We love an ASAP.

• 21:01Hannah Berner?

  I don't know the history of the ASAP and it's with a money signal, but I'm doing new level. So I come out going, I'm on a new level. I'm on a new level. Put these in the dirt. Chain me with a new bezel.

• 21:15Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's crazy is like, I can't, I have zero rhythm. I can't even dance.

• 21:22Hannah Berner?

  I feel like you're the kind of dancer that like, every now and then you can.

• 21:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Every now and then if it hits me, I can do it. But if I think about it too much, I can't.

• 21:31Hannah Berner?

  Like if someone watched you for an extended period of time, they're, they'd be like, this is horrible. But like in a 10 second, it's a story. They'd be like, oh, she's a good dancer. She's just holding back right now.

• 21:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. That's the energy I want to give. I want to, I want you to wonder, is she a good dancer or not?

• 21:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Like, is she a good dancer to pretending to be a bad dancer?

• 21:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 21:49Hannah Berner?

  Is she a good dancer, but she's just drunk right now? Yeah, that's the energy we want to give.

• 21:54Paige DeSorbo?

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• 22:38Paige DeSorbo?

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• 26:41Hannah Berner?

  I was with Caroline Banowitz this other weekend, starting my new material shows, and she's one of my Gen Z best friends. She considers me Gen Z. I've never asked her, but I assume.

• 26:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 26:55Hannah Berner?

  There was one of those moments where I realized I was older than her.

• 26:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Stop. Oh my god, those are so humbling. What was yours?

• 27:02Hannah Berner?

  It was, it was humble, oh, oh my god, oh, I'm gonna gag.

• 27:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 27:07Hannah Berner?

  Oh, like, it's just weird, cuz we're both Gen Z.

• 27:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 27:12Hannah Berner?

  We, an Ashley Simpson song comes on, cuz I was doing my Angry Women playlist, and I was like, I fucking love this song, and she's like, it's so good, and I go, "Ugh, I miss her old nose," and she goes, "What?"

• 27:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Pardon?

• 27:27Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, "Ashley Simpson's old nose," before she got a nose job, and she goes, "Ashley Simpson got a nose job?"

• 27:35Paige DeSorbo?

  My Ashley Simpson is brunette, on SNL lip syncing. That's my Ashley Simpson.

• 27:41Hannah Berner?

  That is the only Ashley Simpson I've ever known and ever will know, and I don't accept this new, this new Ashley Simpson is AI, okay? And she's like, she had a nose job, and I go, and so I was showing her the photos, and she's like, "Oh my god, she's so cute," and I'm like, "What, were you three?"

• 27:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Hello?

• 27:56Hannah Berner?

  Hello?

• 27:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Ashley Simpson has been that bitch, she will always be that bitch.

• 28:01Hannah Berner?

  Be that bitch.

• 28:01Paige DeSorbo?

  She, one of the one things I love about Ashley Simpson is that, like, had a career, awesome, amazing, everyone loved her, and then she was just like, "Fuck it, I'm getting married and like, having kids and doing whatever the fuck I want," and like, loves her husband.

• 28:15Hannah Berner?

  She got so much backlash.

• 28:17Paige DeSorbo?

  So mu- from that SNL night?

• 28:20Hannah Berner?

  Where it's like nowadays, I don't...

• 28:24Paige DeSorbo?

  People just wanted to hate on her, because, one, they were mad that she like, got a career from her sister, which like, if you're the older sister and you're a mega star, what the fuck else are you gonna do but help your sister out?

• 28:38Hannah Berner?

  It's not like she was copying her sister, she was a completely different vibe of like, punk and-

• 28:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Way different genre.

• 28:44Hannah Berner?

  -anger and badass and baggy jeans and, and grunge, and like, it was so great.

• 28:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Two things that stick in my head about like, that time of life, is Ashley Simpson getting berated from SNL, and them calling Jessica Simpson fat when she was a size 6.

• 29:00Hannah Berner?

  Jessica Simpson is getting separated from her husband.

• 29:04Paige DeSorbo?

  It's breakup season, so is Jessica Alba, so is Kaia Gerber.

• 29:09Hannah Berner?

  So is Rachel from The Bachelor.

• 29:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Something's in the air and women are like, "Hey, you know what? No."

• 29:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Gary, can you get me a water?

• 29:22Hannah Berner?

  And an oxygen tank.

• 29:23Paige DeSorbo?

  And an oxygen mask.

• 29:26Hannah Berner?

  I do think that I'm kinda loving this breakup season, cuz normally this should be cuffing season. But I feel like for the girls, they're like, "It's winter and I actually just wanna like watch murder documentaries and fart on my own." And I don't need someone to cuddle with. Cuddling, overrated.

• 29:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Get out of here, I'm hot.

• 29:42Hannah Berner?

  Like, summer is fun. You're hooking up, you're tan, you're making out with guys. Winter, don't fucking touch me, okay?

• 29:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like, I wanna be wrapped in my sweatpants, in a fur blanket with my fuzzy socks, and if you're also under my same blanket, I'm gonna get hot. And I don't wanna get hot. You know, like, I have the perfect temperature right now. Get your frickin' sweaty balls away from me.

• 30:03Hannah Berner?

  Do you know in certain other countries and cultures, partners have their own duvets?

• 30:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's nice.

• 30:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. I don't know why we're for... I mean, the whole sleeping in the same bed thing.

• 30:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so down to have separate bedrooms with my husband, but like, sleep in the same bed at night? Like, I'm so down to go to his bedroom at night and sleep? And then like, keep my room pristine and like, my stuff? I think that should be more normalized. Like, we have separate rooms, but like, if we wanna sleep in the same bed every night, like, we can, but like, I'm gonna go back to my room in the morning. Also, like, I feel like that sounds like spicy, like...

• 30:41Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 30:43Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, like, "Miss me."

• 30:44Hannah Berner?

  "Do you wanna sleep with me tonight?" And it's like, "I don't know, we'll see. I might come in later."

• 30:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, I'm gonna watch my shows first and then like, maybe I'll come in. Like, you can like, change your pajamas, be a whole new bitch. Or you can lock the door and put a chair in front of it and say, "Ben, for your fucking self."

• 31:04Hannah Berner?

  I told you during my naughty years, my early twenties, when I was dating that guy Craig from Craigslist and we were hiding our

• 31:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Which I feel like just doesn't get talked about enough.

• 31:14Hannah Berner?

  It doesn't get talked about enough, but we and we didn't want the other roommates to know we were hooking up. We would be the last to be watching TV together on like separate couches, just happened to both be watching a show.

• 31:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:27Hannah Berner?

  And then we'd go into his room and then at like four, five AM, I'd go back to my room and then in the morning I'd pretend I was like so grossed out and annoyed by him in front of the other roommates, like he's making oatmeal again, ew.

• 31:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 31:41Hannah Berner?

  I mean, give a girl an Oscar.

• 31:43Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's, it's so fun to like have a little.

• 31:46Hannah Berner?

  Will they, won't they?

• 31:47Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, yeah, will they, won't they?

• 31:49Hannah Berner?

  I'm trying to think what I, what I do with Dez is I fall asleep on the couch and he's like, I'm going to bed. Can you please come in soon? And then I lied to him and I'm like, I'm literally right behind you. And then obviously I get a second wind and suddenly I need to scroll every single app and then I need to like start a Molly Mae documentary and then I come in at 2 AM and wake him up.

• 32:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 32:10Hannah Berner?

  Accidentally.

• 32:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's talk about the Molly Mae, let's get to it.

• 32:13Hannah Berner?

  Let's get to it.

• 32:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I.

• 32:15Hannah Berner?

  I watched all three episodes last night for you.

• 32:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, same.

• 32:18Hannah Berner?

  And I'm a fan, but I knew that we were going to discuss.

• 32:20Paige DeSorbo?

  The way I loved her prior to this document, there's something, here's the thing.

• 32:27Hannah Berner?

  What do you think is the Molly Mae effect?

• 32:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's what I'm gonna say, when you see certain people on TV or on Instagram or on Tik Tok and you see these influencers, there are a handful, there are now, there's a lot of people that can get a lot of followers, go viral, say something crazy, get a little like traction. There are a handful of people that when you see them on a screen, you feel it in your soul of like, they have something, like they have some it factor, they have some type of star quality. You can't pinpoint it, but you're like, they make me feel a different way than just like scrolling all these influencers. Molly Mae is one of those people where she just has this spark, this like.

• 33:14Paige DeSorbo?

  She's a star type of thing. Like when she appeared on the screen on Love Island, I didn't know that she was like a famous influencer in England. She had had some, she had followers, but she was nowhere as famous as she is now. When she walked into that villa, I was like, she's a star. I don't give a fuck about any other girl in this house but her. And she was full blonde. And that's usually not my type. And I was like, I love her.

• 33:39Hannah Berner?

  And that was a season, the first season me and you ever watched together during the COVID season of Summer House, when we were trying to stay in bed, because when we left, we'd have to fight with people. So we were just trying to watch Love Island.

• 33:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Trying to stay in our damn lane. Look, we tried. We tried to stay in our own lane.

• 33:56Hannah Berner?

  For people to know, we were trying.

• 33:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I said, let's learn some English slang. That'll keep us occupied.

• 34:02Hannah Berner?

  But you know what is, Molly Mae is very page coded. Where like, I didn't feel that connection to her.

• 34:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 34:10Hannah Berner?

  Like you immediately were like, the outfits, everything. Where I was like, I was like, I like her.

• 34:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Cute girl, yeah.

• 34:17Hannah Berner?

  I wasn't, I think also, yeah, we, me and Paige are different with like, people that we-

• 34:24Paige DeSorbo?

  We become obsessed with.

• 34:25Hannah Berner?

  We've never been obsessed with the same people.

• 34:28Paige DeSorbo?

  No. Oh my god, no, we haven't.

• 34:33Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 34:33Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't have the same, okay, we don't have the same like favorite celebrities and we don't have the same like favorite male celebrities.

• 34:41Hannah Berner?

  We have completely opposite type of men and completely opposite type of women.

• 34:46Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we really do.

• 34:47Hannah Berner?

  When we meet people, like, we've never both been hyped up for someone.

• 34:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, no, we haven't. Like, actually, I specifically remember one time meeting someone and you being like, oh my god, I'm so obsessed. And me being like, I feel like they don't really like me. Or like, when like, someone comes up to me and you're like, oh my god, Paige, we love you. And you're like, okay, well, that was weird. I'm standing right here. Like, that does happen to us a lot, I feel like.

• 35:12Hannah Berner?

  All the time. Actually, people will either be like obsessed with Paige or obsessed with me. Or like pretend to be obsessed with both of us.

• 35:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. And we're like, you don't have to pretend. You get it.

• 35:23Hannah Berner?

  We've accepted. Like, I feel like if we met Molly Mae, like, she'd be excited to see you.

• 35:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I get that. No, I love her.

• 35:30Hannah Berner?

  But my thing with Molly Mae is she really reminded me of you in that- This whole thing is one about her having a public relationship and then her dealing with backlash, whatever, and then her starting her own fashion brand. But what I loved about this documentary, which made me fuck with Molly Mae, is that a lot of these documentaries are like, uh, look at me, why I'm so amazing.

• 35:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:53Hannah Berner?

  This bitch cried the whole time.

• 35:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Cried the whole time. Cried the whole time.

• 35:59Hannah Berner?

  And like not, like, there were so many things that I'm like, eh, I could have cut that out. Like, I, and it wasn't even like, I don't know, just really fucking raw.

• 36:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I think another reason why I loved the documentary so much was like, after we did our beta blocker episode, and after we did like our breakup episode, I had so many girls saying like the nicest things to me. And they were like, no, you truly don't understand, like, I feel really seen with the things you said. Molly Mae said so many things during that documentary that I was just like, holy shit. Like, I feel so fucking seen, like, yeah, I fucking knew that wasn't my fault. Like, that is just so many different things where I was like, damn, I went through that same thing. Or like, I know how that feels, whatever.

• 36:43Hannah Berner?

  Like, she was really showing behind the scenes. For example, she's launching her first, um.

• 36:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Fashion line.

• 36:50Hannah Berner?

  Fashion line, but she's doing her first event where people were gonna see it. And she's like, I haven't ever done like a live event meet and greet with people. And it shows her freaking the fuck out about every detail of it. And like, we've all been there where it's your name on it and like, you feel like other people aren't caring about it. Like, you care about it and you know, you're the only one that gets backlash if it doesn't come out right. And you're like, you start just feeling like, I'm fucked. And her leaning into that, her also saying how she takes like hundreds of thousands of pics. And sometimes will just give up on the pic. Like, there was so many of that.

• 37:25Paige DeSorbo?

  So me coded. Remember when I was really obsessed with my grid and it was like literally putting me into like.

• 37:30Hannah Berner?

  It was actually like ruining her life. I didn't even know, I didn't even, she even mentioned, she was like, girls like me because my fashion and my grid. And I was like, oh, I guess that, I thought that was a thing you made up.

• 37:41Paige DeSorbo?

  No, my grid is like so important to me.

• 37:43Hannah Berner?

  Are you telling me you think people don't follow me because they see my grid and they're like, oh.

• 37:48Paige DeSorbo?

  With pages don't.

• 37:51Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know that the grid aesthetic is a thing.

• 37:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'll follow a bitch in fucking Siberia if I'm like, damn, her grid is aesthetic.

• 37:59Hannah Berner?

  What makes a grid aesthetic, like just like similar colors?

• 38:02Paige DeSorbo?

  It makes me happy. Like it's just like looking at it makes me happy.

• 38:07Hannah Berner?

  But like, can you explain what makes a grid aesthetic? Or it's like you can't put your finger on it?

• 38:12Paige DeSorbo?

  It just has to be like equal parts cohesive, but equal parts different and cool and like, it's honestly a lot of pressure. Like I really felt, I really felt for Molly Mae. I was like, no, I get it. Like your grid is so important. It's also our creative outlet. Like it's what we see in our brain. And then to put out into the world of like, I think this picture looks really cool next to this picture and like this outfit complements this outfit and like I'm wearing red in this outfit and like a little bit of red in that one. So I'm going to put those pictures near each other because it looks pretty.

• 38:44Hannah Berner?

  Talk about doing something for the girls.

• 38:48Hannah Berner?

  Imagine a guy's like, I was into Paige, but then I saw her grid and she had like yellow randomly on like the third row. And I was like, I don't fuck with her.

• 38:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. Well, that man is gay.

• 39:00Hannah Berner?

  One of my favorite scenes was this meet and greet. Where first of all, it was not organized. Like I don't know what they thought it would be, but they thought people would come in and casually like say hi to her, but clearly like every single person that went in wanted a photo with her. And she's being so nice, but you could see she's like doing hundreds of photos. And then it cuts to her hiding in the basement crying, saying, no one's having fun. And I can't just sit here down here the whole time, but whenever I go up, it's awkward. And then she had to walk outside and just, someone was like, hey, just tell everyone, thanks for coming. She walks out, she says, thanks for coming, turns back and she goes, that was so fucking awkward and everyone hates me. Like it was so funny because when you're a fan of someone, you don't see that side of it that like

• 39:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:43Hannah Berner?

  they're feeling embarrassed.

• 39:45Paige DeSorbo?

  That's how I felt after my panic attack at Giggly. I was like, everyone hates this show. They're never going to come. They think I'm bad at this. Like it, you really, you're in your own head.

• 39:53Hannah Berner?

  It reminded me of you. It reminded of you in terms of like our first meet and greets Paige would get blackout because she like couldn't

• 40:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Do it. I was so nervous.

• 40:04Hannah Berner?

  And then you, because it was like, meet and greets can be hard where every person you want them to have the best experience and if you think you had an awkward interaction with someone, which happens, you think you, you suck and then you start spiraling and you think everyone hates you.

• 40:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, oh my God, that girl definitely hates me and never, is never gonna listen to Giggly Squad again. Here's one thing I do want to point out that I found so, so empower, I don't even know, whatever.

• 40:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Just like a fucking man. She was hitting the pinnacle of her career. Something she had been working on for three years. No one even knew she was coming out with a fashion line. It's literally about to drop within those couple of months. She's so stressed about it. She's been working on it for so long. Just like a fucking man to come in, fuck up her whole mental health. She's now got to deal with him and his fucking problems. While simultaneously dealing with like launching this that she's been thinking about since she was a fucking child. And he just ruined it. He ruined it for her. I think about it all the time. Not that this is related whatsoever, but when I watched the, um,

• 41:19Paige DeSorbo?

  who are they?

• 41:22Hannah Berner?

  Jonas Brothers?

• 41:22Paige DeSorbo?

  The fighters? No.

• 41:23Hannah Berner?

  Oh, Tyson Fury.

• 41:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Logan Paul. What's his name?

• 41:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, Jake Paul.

• 41:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Jake Paul, the one that, that fought Mike Tyson? When I was watching his documentary, obviously like his girlfriend was in it because it was like, whatever. When men do a documentary about something that they're like, it's their career, their girlfriend or significant other or whatever is always in the documentary about how much she supported him and how much like, what did she give up so that he could do that? Or like, how did it impact her fucking day? Never touch on her fucking life.

• 41:55Hannah Berner?

  And that girl's like a professional skier or something.

• 41:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that girl's a professional fucking athlete. Never touched on it. Didn't give a fuck. We're here like when it's but when it's a woman, it's so if that was a man, if if Jake or whatever the fuck his name is, was doing his about to do that fight and his girlfriend went and fucked up his mental health or like cheated on him or did something, they'd be like, you are the devil. How could you not fucking support him? But when it's a woman and she's putting out a clothing line and a man wants to come in and act like, uh, it's not that big a deal. Like, I'm gonna hit you with some like real fucked up emotional shit. No one says anything. No one says anything. Why is Tommy not getting so much fucking hate right now for like, you ruined her launch. You literally ruined it.

• 42:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know, but I'd like to. Unless they're back together and that's a decision that she made and I support her.

• 42:48Hannah Berner?

  And we support it. I do think that the mom made an interesting statement or the sister where they were like,

• 42:55Hannah Berner?

  we support you being married to Tommy, but it's not gonna be easy to marry Tommy. So if you wanna marry a famous man, you can, but you're gonna have to sacrifice a lot of happiness when that famous man has a drinking problem.

• 43:09Paige DeSorbo?

  One time my mom said to me, I think you would live a fine life. Do you wanna live a fine life?

• 43:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Kim, come on. It's 10 a.m. Chill.

• 43:22Hannah Berner?

  I think we've all been in that position. I remember when I was in that position once where I found a man and I knew like, I got some stuff from it, from my ego, but I remember feeling like I was signing a deal with the devil. And I didn't know what to do, but then my body didn't stop letting me eat. So that's how I knew.

• 43:43Hannah Berner?

  My body was physically rejecting him.

• 43:45Paige DeSorbo?

  She had hit her goal weight. But at what cost? But at what?

• 43:52Hannah Berner?

  I remember I ordered a sandwich and it was like we were working my nine to five and I couldn't finish the sandwich, which was very out of character for me. And I was really paranoid that people were noticing. And then I remember being like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You hate this man? Get out of this relationship just cuz other people think he's cool.

• 44:10Paige DeSorbo?

  See, I know when that happens to me when like, I'm not genuinely an awkward person, but when I start being really awkward and like clumsy, I'm like, oh, my body doesn't like where we are or like what we're doing. Like I.

• 44:26Hannah Berner?

  Well, yeah, you almost, your body starts to like fall apart and your brain and body are like, you're not, it's out of being out of alignment. That's what it's literally being out of alignment and your body will tell you.

• 44:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Your body's like, this is not good for you.

• 44:40Hannah Berner?

  No, when I lose my appetite, there's a fucking.

• 44:44Hannah Berner?

  There's one thing being nervous. There's no thing, your body getting sick from the situation you've put it in. So listen to your body, girlies. We love that for us.

• 44:53Paige DeSorbo?

  There's nothing I love more than getting inside of an SUV. I need to be high up. I need legroom.

• 45:00Hannah Berner?

  Luxury.

• 45:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And when I get into an SUV, I also want it to be an award-winning SUV.

• 45:04Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah. I'm not being in an SUV that never won an award before. That's crazy. Do I not love myself?

• 45:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly. And that's why Hyundai is a brand that we trust because not only have they won the award for America's best SUV in 2026, but they've also won it five times in six years.

• 45:22Hannah Berner?

  And one thing about me, if I'm going to be in an SUV, it needs to have consistency. And that is the result I'm looking for.

• 45:28Paige DeSorbo?

  The Tucson Hybrid is loaded with technology and built for everyday life. So if you are feeling like it's time for an SUV, this is the SUV you need because the Santa Fe Hybrid is also fully capable and ready for adventure. And also the Palisade Hybrid. So you have multiple SUVs to pick from. Another thing I want to bring up about Hyundai, their interior. I also need a luxurious interior. That's where the Palisade does come in because they have premium capability and class-leading interior space. And anytime someone says class-leading interior, I'm in.

• 46:00Hannah Berner?

  Yep. Also, I love a hybrid. Gas, electric, either one, which you don't have to pick one.

• 46:07Paige DeSorbo?

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• 48:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but I'm just so obsessed with Molly May. I think she, she also just seems so sweet and genuine and like, works really hard and, you know, and you wanna know the other thing? She didn't say a bad fucking thing about him. She did not say, she did not drag this man. She could have, she probably's got stories for days. The only thing she said that I was just like, wow, when she said, Tommy doesn't have a drinking problem, but when he drinks, there are problems. And I begged him not to drink at my sister's wedding. Oof, like that, oh my god, you must have been holding that in for so long.

• 49:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And the shit that you probably dealt with behind closed doors to make sure that this man didn't get bad press. Or like, because people would have inevitably came at you too. And you wanna know what? If he did do some fucked up shit drinking, the press would have just been like, Molly, you're stupid for staying with him. But, but then when you don't support it, it's like, oh my god, and you couldn't like work through it, you couldn't help him.

• 49:54Hannah Berner?

  And the drinking thing is crazy because they'll then be like, oh, I know I cheated, but it's because of my drinking problem. And, and it's the thing, you feel empathy because it's like, that's, wasn't him, like, he has a drinking problem, but then you have to decide. And look, this affects a lot of people. Drinking problems, not, I personally don't know too much about it, but what I know is, it's not what you will see in the movies always of a guy waking up with the shakes. And then needs to have whiskey at 11 a.m. It's a majority of the time. And we joke about it as comics, that it's in your twenties, it's cute. In your thirties, you go, do I have a problem?

• 50:36Hannah Berner?

  And this happens to a lot of people in your thirties, men and women. But if every time you or your partner or your friend drinks, some bad shit happens and they can't control it. That's a drinking, there's problems when you drink. That's a drinking problem. And look, I, there's, I'm saying this as a firm coach right now because...

• 50:58Paige DeSorbo?

  You're also saying this as a wife of someone who is sober.

• 51:02Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 51:03Paige DeSorbo?

  So, you know, so like, that's like a big.

• 51:05Hannah Berner?

  Actually, you know what? I do have a little two cents because my husband's been sober since nineteen, he's nineteen years old. And I've learned a little bit about that stuff, but there's a lot of people that. The only thing between you and success in your life, and by success, I mean a loving family, healthy friendships, a healthy career. Sometimes alcohol is the one thing.

• 51:26Paige DeSorbo?

  And I think that like our generation was kind of fed, oh, a drinking problem is you wake up every day. You, your body can't function if there's not alcohol inside of it. I've met a ton of alcoholics that can go five days without drinking, but the minute they pick up a drink, it's absolute mayhem. And I'm gonna be honest, he probably did so much shit to her that she never got over it.

• 51:50Hannah Berner?

  Well, she said, she's like, I let him get away with a lot of shit, so we don't even know.

• 51:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 51:56Hannah Berner?

  We don't even know. We don't even know what she's protected him from.

• 52:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:01Hannah Berner?

  And, I mean, as two people.

• 52:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And then it's like, it's in the public being like. All the hate is going to her, where she's probably sitting home being like, you don't fucking, if you knew half the shit this man has done to me. Like, it's crazy. I just feel bad for her.

• 52:16Hannah Berner?

  We're in, we've done reality TV where we see the like. People doing things when they're drunk that are so fucked up. Like, I've had stuff fucked up done to me. And then the next day, it doesn't count because they were drunk, but you. Don't, don't forget what they said to you, don't forget what they did to you, but then you're the fucked up one. Because you're holding grudges when it's like, but they do this every weekend. But, because I'm, I wasn't blackout, I have to forgive them?

• 52:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna, let's take back the meaning of like, holding grudges. You know what? If you did something fucked up to me two years ago and I never got over it, that's not my fault. That's literally not my fault.

• 52:55Hannah Berner?

  That's called boundaries.

• 52:56Paige DeSorbo?

  You did something so insanely fucked up that like I wouldn't be able to get it out of my head unless I had a fucking lobotomy. So every time I look at you, I fucking think of it.

• 53:07Hannah Berner?

  That's why women were getting lobotomies in the twenties, cuz men had prohibition, getting blackout, doing fucked up stuff to them, and then would lobotomize them so they'd forget what they did.

• 53:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly. So I, I actually, I know Molly, Molly Mae said in the documentary, like, "I'm trying to get through all of this in the hopes that me and Tommy get back together." And like, I want her to get whatever she wants. I really pray that she does not get back with him. I hope she co-parents that beautiful baby with him, and I hope she meets someone who supports the fuck out of her. And like, also Tommy, you're not your brother. Like, you don't have the career your brother does. Your, your wife makes more money than you. Maybe sit and chill for a fucking second.

• 53:51Hannah Berner?

  Wait, sorry, I'm laughing cuz I love how we started this conversation, being like, whatever Molly wants to do is perfect, and now we're like, if she gets back with that man. No, it was a point, when she starts breaking down in the third ep- episode, this isn't, okay, this is what happens, so. She goes, um.

• 54:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Spoiler alert, this is what happened.

• 54:10Hannah Berner?

  Sorry. She does, she's like, "I want to get back with him." We all got that, like, "Nooo." Because you're watching it, and you're watching how amazing she is. And then she's sitting there crying, not bec- cuz of what's going on with her career, but because he's the stupid dipshit.

• 54:29Paige DeSorbo?

  He ruined, he ruined what you've worked your whole life for. He tried to ruin it. He tried to ruin it. And I think as women, we sit back and we're like, "He didn't mean to, he didn't know like what he was saying." He like, and we make such excuses. He knew what he was doing. He wanted to ruin it for you. He had no regard. That's why he got drunk at your sister's wedding, like, and fucked up whatever he fucked up. Like, he didn't care that you were about to go through all this turmoil simultaneously with the launch of your brand. He didn't give a shit.

• 55:03Hannah Berner?

  Interesting, though, if the roles were reversed, if he would never take her back.

• 55:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Never. And if the roles were reversed and he was like coming out with some big thing and she went and like was it seen in a nightclub? Everyone would be like, you're a whore. How are you outside? How are you doing? Like, it's, the double standard is crazy.

• 55:21Hannah Berner?

  Can I be so mean right now?

• 55:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 55:23Hannah Berner?

  Cause when I'm watching her and she's beautiful and she's smart and she's empathetic and she's an amazing mother and she's like, but he's great. It's like, I'm sorry. He's a CTE, guy who chose to be on reality TV for attention. Pretty looking guy who's been spoiled his whole fucking life. Nepo brother, not Ashley Simpson, not, not even as talented. And, and it's like, what, what makes him so, cause I don't really believe in my heart of hearts that their chemistry. Like, he's that funny and he's that smart and he's that caring. Cause if he was, he wouldn't have fucking embarrassed you.

• 56:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, he embarrassed you. He embarrassed you and then you had to pick up the pieces. That's the thing. When a man embarrasses you and then you still get blamed and then you also have to pick up the pieces and fix it, fuck you. Like, I'll never forget it.

• 56:16Hannah Berner?

  Look, I love a good looking man. I've made very bad decisions based off of a jawline. But once you spend enough time with that good looking man, you will see their character and their looks fade so fucking quick.

• 56:30Paige DeSorbo?

  So quick.

• 56:30Hannah Berner?

  I've, like, the ick you get, I almost get more icks when a guy's hot, cause I'm like, oh, you're not only, you're lying. Like, you're trying to cover it up with these, these blue eyes or whatever, when you're actually the devil. And I don't want to be conned and be treated like shit.

• 56:49Paige DeSorbo?

  And be the less hot one. That's crazy.

• 56:53Hannah Berner?

  No, a hundred percent, a hundred percent. So, look, we're not Team Tommy right now.

• 56:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm just not. I'm Molly Mae all the way.

• 57:01Hannah Berner?

  And do I empathize with, with people who are struggling with addiction a hundred percent? But you know what I also didn't like? And she very subtly shows a scene in the beginning when they're in the hot tub, when they meet for the first ever time and they're sitting in the hot tub and she goes, do you like to drink? And he says, no. And then looks at her and says, do you like to drink? And she goes, not me neither. You lied to her face the first time you hung out with her. I'm never forgetting that shit, I'm out.

• 57:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, can I tell you something? I feel like in terms of dating, I truly feel, and this is like just based off my own like experiences and like say whatever you want. I truly feel like women do show you who they are from the jump. And that's why men like fall for them. Where like I feel like you don't really truly see who a man is until like three to six months in and then you're in it. And then you're fucking in it and you're like, wait, did I miscalculate? Because I told him what I was like and he was down.

• 58:10Hannah Berner?

  And he was showing you something.

• 58:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and now all of the sudden you've you've completely changed.

• 58:15Hannah Berner?

  That's why they say with the right one, he knows first, but you don't.

• 58:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 58:20Hannah Berner?

  Cause you're looking at it logically.

• 58:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's yes.

• 58:24Hannah Berner?

  Any guy you fell for immediately was wrong for you.

• 58:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Hundred.

• 58:32Hannah Berner?

  And let's be honest, when I say fell for immediately, I mean, you were scrolling his Instagram and you're like, I'm gonna marry that man.

• 58:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like fuck yeah. No, it's because like women truly like, I'm like, I want you to be the best version of you. So I'll make that version up in my head and then you realize they're not it.

• 58:47Hannah Berner?

  It was that quote we saw from TikTok earlier where men start at zero and we start at a hu- at a hundred. So we, he has to disprove everything, we believe in him and we have to show them everything.

• 59:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, my biggest example of that is like, I started dating someone and I was already on reality TV. And then like halfway through, they were like, why do you do reality TV? And I'm like, wait, what? Like you started dating me knowing this, like I told you what I do, who I am this, I get, I presented that to you and you're like, fuck yeah, I love it. And then halfway in, you're like, I don't love it, change it. And it's like, that's crazy though.

• 59:24Hannah Berner?

  It also reminds me of like, men will not tell you who they are, they'll show you. So him being like, I don't drink, but then you're blackout all of Love Island or whatever.

• 59:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:34Hannah Berner?

  I wasn't tracking his drinking.

• 59:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't have a drinking problem, but like doing the most fucked up shit is crazy behavior.

• 59:42Hannah Berner?

  And I do have to say like, This is a little controversial. I love an addict. I don't know if I was an addict in a past life. I connect with them. I've always, I've dated multiple addicts in my life.

• 59:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Women are fixers. Women are fixers. I've dated multiple addicts because I'm like, I'll help you and I've, and I've, I've done it.

• 1:00:01Hannah Berner?

  I will, I will solve all your problems that you've never been able to solve your whole life, but me, a non-professional will figure it out.

• 1:00:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Stick with me, honey. I'll change it.

• 1:00:09Hannah Berner?

  Also, when you feel love from an addict, there is no stronger love. Once he decides you're his source, girl, that is the attention I want as a Leo. But then you realize, oh, this is not healthy and also he's always going to choose his addiction over you.

• 1:00:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. No, I, I'm definitely a fixer and I like, someone come in and fix me. How about that? How about someone comes in and gives me some advice?

• 1:00:39Hannah Berner?

  But I also feel like the thing a lot of girls, we like to be fixers because

• 1:00:43Paige DeSorbo?

  We're maternal.

• 1:00:44Hannah Berner?

  There's more maternal, but there's also this like, if I focus on fixing him, I don't have to address like what I'm missing or what I want or any of those things, which is more complicated. I think that's why being single is so healthy because you get to learn like what you want, what you need. So when he comes in and starts having issues, instead of being like, I have a new project, so I don't have to focus on myself. You go, whoa, whoa, whoa. I have a project here called me. And if you're going to fuck that up, I actually like, don't think this is going to work out.

• 1:01:15Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I mean, I've only been single for a couple of months, but like, already,

• 1:01:22Paige DeSorbo?

  it just in terms of like my single life, like my own like personal life, like I, I never wanted to work out. Obviously like you want to work out because you want to like be hot or like whatever. I never wanted to work out because I didn't, I feel like I literally didn't care. About my body, like I didn't care if I was healthy, I didn't care if I was strong. And then when I was like, single, I was like, oh no, like I have to like, stay alive, you know?

• 1:01:50Hannah Berner?

  It's fun for yourself in these streets.

• 1:01:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, certain things that I was like, I'll never be able to do that, like that's so not me, I'll never be able to get into that routine. Random, like just naturally came, really natural, like. I've been working out three times a week and it like, I haven't even thought about it, like.

• 1:02:08Hannah Berner?

  I'm so proud of you.

• 1:02:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know, it was just very empowering for like my own self to see like, oh, I thought I'd never be able to quit that. Or I thought I'd never be able to like, start that up. And so then when you're doing it naturally, you're like, wait, I'm way stronger than I was giving myself credit for, I was literally gaslighting myself.

• 1:02:27Hannah Berner?

  Also, I hate to say it, sometimes you think like you're the problem, but sometimes you just have to change, like your environment. It's very hard to change yourself when you're doing the same thing every day, but if you, it's like why people move or they get out of a relationship or they start a new job. That helps you with change. Also, one thing about being a caretaker, I do have to say, like, it is, we're not saying, don't be a caretaker, just make sure where, what you're caring for cares for you back.

• 1:02:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, like it really is true, like filling up someone else's cup and then like not filling yours, it really drains you.

• 1:03:00Hannah Berner?

  Wait, did I, speaking of Pilates, because I know you've been on a Pilates kick. We both subconsciously like started doing Pilates this week, and when I say started, I did it once last week. And I've done Pilates sporadically, because you know, I'm very busy with hip hop yoga.

• 1:03:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:03:15Hannah Berner?

  But I went with my mom a couple of times, so I was like, I'm not signing up for a beginner class, I'm gonna sign up, it's called like Mix, and it's like, make sure you've done at least three Pilates classes, I was like, yeah.

• 1:03:25Hannah Berner?

  I got my ass kicked.

• 1:03:27Paige DeSorbo?

  You get your ass beat.

• 1:03:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, they started off being like, okay, take your legs and put it over your head, and I was like, this is a warm up?

• 1:03:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. No, the shakes I get during Pilates is crazy.

• 1:03:42Hannah Berner?

  The exorcism of your body. And then, they keep using all these words like pelvis, which I, I thought was a made up thing.

• 1:03:51Paige DeSorbo?

  When they say internal rotation, I'm like, what the fuck does that mean bitch?

• 1:03:55Hannah Berner?

  Like what are we talking?

• 1:03:57Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, internally rotate your hip, I'm like, how the fuck?

• 1:04:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Am I supposed to know if it's internally rotating?

• 1:04:05Hannah Berner?

  They're like, we're gonna use a muscle that you've never activated before. And I'm like, here's thirty-three? If I didn't need it till now, that's like an appendix. I don't need it.

• 1:04:15Hannah Berner?

  I saw the funniest Pilates Instagram of like, after you murder someone and it's you like pulling the dead body and then it goes to your Pilates instructor and they're like, no.

• 1:04:25Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, strong back.

• 1:04:26Hannah Berner?

  Strong back, raise your spine and the girl like changes her posture as she's pulling the dead body.

• 1:04:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No, Pilates is really truly actually the only thing that helps my back problems. Because I think I have back problems because I literally, my back was not strong enough. So I would like hunch over and like, it would just like hurt so bad. And so I truly feel like it's the only thing that like builds muscle in my fucking shoulders.

• 1:04:48Hannah Berner?

  In your Pernuvo scan, did you have anything going on with your spine?

• 1:04:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't.

• 1:04:54Hannah Berner?

  Okay, not to brag, but my L4 and L5 has a slipped disc.

• 1:04:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you're an athlete, you're an athlete. So you probably have so many old injuries that like...

• 1:05:06Hannah Berner?

  Yes, but I also think I have this obsession with, do you know when you buy a sectional? That long part of the couch? That's where I thrive in my life. Like, when in doubt.

• 1:05:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You love a chaise, you love a chaise.

• 1:05:19Hannah Berner?

  I love a chaise. I'm like a cat, that is my comfort zone. Like, there's a sunken spot in this, in that part where I live my day. I'm lying down, but then with my head.

• 1:05:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Same.

• 1:05:30Hannah Berner?

  And so I was like researching and they're like the worst. Cause sometimes I'll be sitting for a couple of days and I'm like, wow, my lower back's killing me. Like I just like deadlifted something. But your spine is supposed to not be that direction, basically. So like, we're doing it to ourselves.

• 1:05:46Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I got an adjustable base bed, truly. Cause I was like, I can't sit like this, cause your head is down looking at your fucking phone.

• 1:05:53Hannah Berner?

  And for all you Gen Z's, my fellow Gen Z's listening, being like, are we listening to a podcast about two girls complaining about their lower back? We're helping you get ahead of it.

• 1:06:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I have upper back problems, so actually, we're killing two birds with one stone.

• 1:06:06Hannah Berner?

  We're looking out for all of our spines. You're L4, you're L5. We're just, this is for girlhood in general. Um, keep your spine healthy, your mind healthy.

• 1:06:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Do yourself a favor, book a fucking Pilates class, pet your cat, and shake it off.

• 1:06:22Hannah Berner?

  Okay, Taylor Swift.

• 1:06:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally, I wanna like go, I wanna go do Pilates with Molly Mae and be like, "Let's find you a man, honey."

• 1:06:32Hannah Berner?

  Shout out Molly Mae, we love you so, so, so much.

• 1:06:35Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I love her.

• 1:06:36Hannah Berner?

  Thank you for putting out that show and being so vulnerable.

• 1:06:39Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I truly felt, I actually felt closer to the gigglers when I watched it because like, obviously like when girls DM me and they're like, "You, you know, really made us feel seen." I can, I can appreciate it to a point because I'm like, "Oh, like, that makes me feel so good that my words helped you." Molly Mae's words helped me, so I was like, "Oh my god, I fucking love the gigglers. Like, I know exactly how you feel." Like, all I wanted to do was like text Molly Mae and be like, "You don't understand." Like, that helped me so much. Like, I thought I was a raging bitch sometimes, but really it was like, "No, you were fucking up my shit. Like, move."

• 1:07:15Hannah Berner?

  Molly, when you were complaining about your grid and the pressure of your grid, it really changed my life.

• 1:07:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it did.

• 1:07:22Hannah Berner?

  I was in a really dark place, then you talked about your grid stressing you out, and now I feel seen!

• 1:07:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and she was like, "I take a thousand pictures and I delete all of them." I'm like, "It's my favorite hobby."

• 1:07:34Hannah Berner?

  No, we love you. We love Molly Mae. Um, quick update, we have, we added more live shows, y'all. We added more live shows. We're in Nashville, New Orleans, St. Augustine, Hollywood, Florida, Tacoma, Washington, Portland, Oregon, Las Vegas, Nevada, Salt Lake City, Utah. I don't know if any of these sold out. Double check, go to link tree slash giggle squad, it's on our Instagram. Also, I'm going to Alabama.

• 1:07:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Jesus. When are you going to Alabama?

• 1:08:02Hannah Berner?

  I think next month, Birmingham.

• 1:08:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's go.

• 1:08:06Hannah Berner?

  We love you guys so much. Thank you for giggling, and we'll talk to you later.

• 1:08:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you for coming to Radio City, you guys are the fucking best.

• 1:08:12Hannah Berner?

  Yes, shout out. Bye.

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