How to Age in Reverse, The Future of Space Travel & Mankind's Next Great Innovations w/ Peter Diamandis EP 1264

Today I'm joined by Peter H. Diamandis. Recently named by Fortune as one of the “World’s 50 Greatest Leaders,” Peter is the founder and executive chairman of the XPRIZE Foundation, which leads the world in designing and operating large-scale incentive competitions. He is also the executive founder of Singularity University, a graduate-level Silicon Valley institution that counsels the world's leaders on exponentially growing technologies. He's also the co-author of Life Force: How New Breakthroughs in Precision Medicine Can Transform the Quality of Your Life & Those You Love In this episode, you will learn:The most exciting innovations in our current and future worldHow we can slow down and possible reverse agingWhat Preventative Health Care could look likeThe importance of enrolling people in your dreamHow to take on a Moonshot Mindset For more, go to: lewishowes.com/1264Get Peter's new book, Life Force: How New Breakthroughs in Precision Medicine Can Transform the Quality of Your Life & Those You LoveFor Peter's 30-day Mindset Challenge: Diamandis.com/mindsetFor Future News & innovations: FutureLoop.comFor Health Innovations: LongevityInsider.org The Surprising Secrets to Aging w/ David Sinclair: EP 1232Embrace the Future w/ Peter: EP 881 Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:00Peter Diamandis?

  All of us are going to develop a disease at some point. Aging is a disease. Aging is a disease. Our body is a machine and we are beginning to discover why we age. How do you slow it down? How do you stop it? Maybe how do you reverse it?

• 0:14Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 0:38Lewis Howes?

  Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest, Peter Diamandis in the house. My man, good to see you, sir.

• 0:44Peter Diamandis?

  Great to see you once again.

• 0:45Lewis Howes?

  Very excited about this. You're a type of individual that has this moonshot mindset, really. You think so big. It's almost unrealistic how big you think. And you get other people who have an unrealistic mindset based on what a lot of people think is possible. And you enroll them in a vision, a vision of what you can see is possible in the future, but may seem impossible right now.

• 1:09Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, I like to say that the day before something is really a breakthrough, it's a crazy idea. Right? So where are we trying crazy ideas in the world?

• 1:17Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:18Peter Diamandis?

  And I think we're living in a time where there's more capital than ever before. There's more capability, more data, more knowledge, more compute, more everything. And so honestly, there's very few things that are not possible. It's a matter of getting the passionate, purposeful mind focused on making it happen.

• 1:37Lewis Howes?

  It's funny because I was flying a couple of weeks ago and I was thinking, you know, a hundred.

• 1:41Peter Diamandis?

  In an airplane, right?

• 1:41Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, in an airplane. Not like personally, but I was like thinking, you know, a couple of hundred years ago, people would have like thought this was the craziest thing in the world. If you said, I'm going to be in a tin thing, aluminum thing or whatever, flying in the sky, going across the world. People would have thought you're nuts.

• 1:56Peter Diamandis?

  I have two 10, soon to be 11 year old boys and when they're on their tablet in an airplane, I was like, like, look out the window. It's a miracle.

• 2:03Lewis Howes?

  It's incredible. It is incredible, right?

• 2:06Peter Diamandis?

  I know. And then the other thing is I remember, I don't know, it was a year ago or. So I made this trip like LA, New York, New York, Miami, Miami, LA in like four to eight hours. And I was thinking to myself, that trip a hundred years ago or two hundred years ago would have been like, you know, years.

• 2:23Lewis Howes?

  Your life.

• 2:24Peter Diamandis?

  Your lifetime. I'm thinking about it. Anyway, it's crazy.

• 2:28Lewis Howes?

  Even just, you know, I was talking to my girlfriend the other day and we were FaceTiming. I go, fifteen years ago, we could not like imagine a video looking at you live from across the world. Like this would have been sorcery.

• 2:40Peter Diamandis?

  For free.

• 2:41Lewis Howes?

  For free, right? Yeah. It's like, how can you even create a video in front of you? And see someone else across the world. It is mind blowing. If you really think about what we've been able to create.

• 2:51Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. And by the way, what we're going to create in the decade ahead, in the next two decades, is going to make us look like what we have today is standing still.

• 3:01Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 3:01Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. Yeah. Every year I run this program called Abundance 360 for 360 entrepreneurs, CEOs. And I do two things. One is I look back a hundred years ago. At what was the innovation a hundred years ago? Right? And you can actually like search patents, headlines, all of that. And then I look at what's occurred in just the last 12 months. And the last 12 months is stunning. In, you know, in compute, sensors, networks, AI, robotics, 3D printing. A hundred years ago, in, in 1922, there were six innovations. I don't know if I remember them. The water ski was invented. It was two boards and some washline rope, right?

• 3:46Peter Diamandis?

  Vitamin E was discovered. A manually retractable roof for a car. Oh, and the blender. The blender was made for making malt shakes. And there was one more that I'm forgetting, but I mean, that was like in the course of the entire year of 1922 globally. That, oh, Vegemite.

• 4:06Lewis Howes?

  Vegemite. These were like massive innovations.

• 4:08Peter Diamandis?

  This was like the innovations of 1922. And it's like you, I mean, honestly, compared to what we have per microsecond today, it's insane. And we forget how incredible the world we're living in is today. And the tools that we have, more access to capital, compute, manufacturing, you know, connections to people globally around the world, it's like, there is nothing that is not possible with the committed passionate human mind. In 10 to 20 years, what do you think is going to, if you said right now, this is going to happen, people would say, there's no way. That's, it's just not. And we'll talk about, I mean, I think we're going to significantly extend the healthy human lifespan, learn how to reverse aging, which is an area of focus for me.

• 4:53Peter Diamandis?

  You know, we are seeing right now autonomous cars and flying cars. You know, the proper name is electric vertical takeoff or landing, eVTols. And they'll be here and they'll become part of the fabric, right? We'll all have an AI, AI software shell, an AI that is monitoring everything for you, your, your biology, it knows your schedule, it just heard me say, okay, we're gonna, you know, be done in a couple hours and it's got an autonomous car waiting for me without me asking, because it knows where I need to get to next. Right, it's, and, and so, the world's going to become very, what I call automagical, automatic and magical in our world.

• 5:34Peter Diamandis?

  Things just materialize, your desires, you know, become reality. It's like Amazon Prime, but now. Everything, everything now, right? It's like ahead of time, it's, as I'm thinking about it, it comes to me. I mean, brain-computer interface is coming fast and furious, right? Connecting, you know, you have 100 billion neurons, 100 trillion synaptic connections in your brain, connecting that to the cloud, you know, to increase our intelligence, our conversations, fascinating stuff. What are you most excited about in a decade? In a decade's time, I'm interested, I'm focused a lot on the biotech breakthroughs that are coming our way.

• 6:13Peter Diamandis?

  The ability using CRISPR and gene therapy to cure almost every disease is coming fast. The idea, I'm, you know, I have a half a billion dollar venture fund that, two thirds of it right now is being invested into biotech and health tech. So that's super cool for me. It's like, listen, I'm 60 and I'm shooting for, you know, many hundred years, so it's like. Many hundred? Yeah, I mean, why not? Listen, here's. In this body? In this body, updated, upgraded, whatever the case might be.

• 6:46Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 6:47Peter Diamandis?

  I think honestly, we're, you know, there is, people say, oh, well, listen, you know, aren't you gonna be happy with 10 or 20 or 30 years? And yeah, that's fantastic. Add another 20, 30, make 100 years old and you're 60. But, one thing to realize is that if we add 30 healthy years, so you've got the cognition, you're thinking clearly, the aesthetics, you look good, the mobility, you're moving well. If you add 30 healthy years, science is not standing still during those 30 years. Right? It's moving, and the speed is accelerating. So, you know, a lot of the work right now is around the idea of slowing, stopping, and reversing aging.

• 7:31Peter Diamandis?

  You know, there are species on this planet, from the bowhead whale, to the Greenland shark, to sea turtles, that live 2, 3, 4, 500 years. If they can, why can't we?

• 7:41Lewis Howes?

  Interesting. 500 years.

• 7:43Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. Greenland shark, at a minimum, is, does 400 to 500 years.

• 7:47Lewis Howes?

  Come on, really? That's incredible.

• 7:49Peter Diamandis?

  It is incredible.

• 7:51Lewis Howes?

  So with CRISPR, and can you, I've just started learning about CRISPR in the last few months, for those who have never heard about it, can you explain what it is? And how can you use something like CRISPR to, I guess, take genes from the shark that lives 400 years or whatever, and help it, help us humans use it in a way to help us live longer?

• 8:11Peter Diamandis?

  CRISPR is an editing technology that's been discovered out of bacteria, and it's a means, it's evolved over billions of years as a means by which bacteria prevent themselves from being infected by viruses. There are things called bacteriophage that infect bacteria, and...

• 8:34Peter Diamandis?

  Anyway, Jennifer Doudna and her partner, who won the Nobel Prize in 2020 in chemistry for discovering CRISPR, learned how to manipulate it and utilize it. And some folks at Harvard, like George Church and others, turning it into a tool that allows you to go into your genome and accurately change letters. So each of us, you and I, have 3.2 billion letters in our genome, 3.2 from our mother and 3.2 from our father. And those genes basically are your software, right? And sometimes you might be born with a genetic disease, a mutation like sickle cell anemia, thalassemia.

• 9:18Peter Diamandis?

  There's thousands of them and you're stuck with it. And it could be fatal or it could be inconvenient. And we have, medicine has over the years tried to just, you know, how do we treat it? How do we remove the symptomology? But you still have it.

• 9:34Lewis Howes?

  You still have it.

• 9:35Peter Diamandis?

  And CRISPR is an opportunity to go into your genome and make the edit and cure you, right? You know, C U R E, cure. And for example, there is CRISPR trials going on right now to cure people with AIDS where you go in, right? The HIV virus is in your, has been integrated into your genome. Can you use CRISPR to go in there and cut it out?

• 10:00Lewis Howes?

  And delete it.

• 10:00Peter Diamandis?

  And delete it, right? This is like word, this is word processing for the letters of your body. So that's probably not, we're not going to probably use CRISPR for longevity, but it's going to help us live our longest, healthiest life. And then we're going to learn how to make changes that will extend it. One of the big areas, and you know, we're also beginning to learn how to grow extra organs, like a backup set of, you know, kidney, lung, you know, heart, thymus, pancreas. And that's pretty cool. Have a backup set of organs for yourself.

• 10:37Lewis Howes?

  Right, so you can do the surgery if you need to. What would you do, print it?

• 10:41Peter Diamandis?

  Well, there's a few different approaches. One, Martin Rothblatt, who's an incredible entrepreneur. What Martin has done is Gone after pigs and turns out pigs have the same size heart, liver, lung, kidney as humans do. And modified the surface antigens and removed the viruses. And making them compatible for transplant. So you can make an infinite supply of humanized pigs. That are then available instead of because right now what do we wait for someone to die in an automobile accident?

• 11:15Lewis Howes?

  And then we use that organ, right?

• 11:17Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 11:17Lewis Howes?

  Well, I think the first transplant happened with a pig heart within the last six months.

• 11:23Peter Diamandis?

  So it was a liver transplant that was done into someone who was brain dead. Uh, but the family allowed the transplant. Uh, to take place as a first step. And then there was a heart transplant that was done, uh, about three, four months ago. Now the patient only survived for little over a month, but it's the first, it's the first step.

• 11:42Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 11:43Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 11:44Lewis Howes?

  But maybe if there were, there's a way that CRISPR could change the, the DNA of the heart first and then transplant.

• 11:49Peter Diamandis?

  Exactly. So that is, you know, it's the early days. But I think it begins to change the way we think about our, what's possible in our lives. Like, what would you do if you had an extra 50 years if like, you know, if you knew you were going to make it to 150? Would it change when you have kids, whether you get married, how many careers you have, how long you work? Your desire to go and see another star system? You know, I mean, how does it change? Cause life is precious. There's no question about it. But this idea that you are going to retire and then go out to pasture and

• 12:29Peter Diamandis?

  and you know, give up on life, I think is bullshit. I think if you feel good, if you've got the energy. Uh, if you're thinking clearly, the only time more exciting than today is tomorrow.

• 12:41Lewis Howes?

  Right. What would you do if you had an extra 50 years? If you knew, okay, if I stay healthy and there's no accidents in my life and I know I could, my body could take it to 150.

• 12:51Peter Diamandis?

  I mean, listen, I love starting companies. I'm on my 25th or 26th company right now. There's a few adventures on the planet, a few parts of the planet I haven't seen yet that I'd love to go to. I definitely want to go and walk on the moon and walk on Mars and go start a colony in, probably in the asteroid belt. You know, it's like, it's like open up the space frontier and just see the future. I mean, my kids are 11, so I had kids when, you know.

• 13:22Lewis Howes?

  Forty-nine?

• 13:22Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, forty-nine, fifty. And they've got incredible life ahead of them, right? So kids born today could have an indefinite lifespan.

• 13:30Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 13:31Peter Diamandis?

  I mean, we'll see. It's like, we're beginning to understand why we age and why we may not need to. And it changes a lot of things, right? Including social security and government operations and the institutions of marriage and all kinds of things. Now, would you go and have a third, fourth, fifth family? Who knows?

• 13:52Lewis Howes?

  Interesting. What are the main causes of why we age?

• 13:56Peter Diamandis?

  Your genome at birth, 3.2 billion letters that your software code you're running, and at age 20 and 40 and 60 and 80 and 100 is the same. Small mutations, but roughly is the same. And so the question is, why don't you look the same?

• 14:12Lewis Howes?

  Right, why is that?

• 14:13Peter Diamandis?

  Why is it? Well, it's not the genes you have, it's what's called your epigenome. It is epi from the Greek word above, which means what genes are turned on and what genes are turned off. And so as we get older, the body goes into dysregulation. It was never designed to live past age 30.

• 14:37Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 14:38Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, because 100,000 years ago, think about this, you'd go into puberty at age 13, no birth control, you'd be pregnant by 14. And then by the time you were 28, your kids were having kids. That's crazy. Right, and back then, before we had abundant food, before Whole Foods and McDonald's was around, the last thing you wanted to do to perpetuate the species was steal food from your grandchildren's mouths. And so, there was never benefit, right, for being the old member of the tribe who's strong-arming for food, or holding the tribe back. And so, there was no selective pressures against a person living longer,

• 15:23Peter Diamandis?

  or promoting a person living longer. So, we never did. And so, the body goes into a rapid dysregulation. For example, when we're born, we have this large supply of stem cells in our body. As we age, from like birth to into your 40s and 50s, the stem cells in your body can fall a thousandfold. So, there's something called stem cell exhaustion. That's one of multiple causes. Your mitochondria, your power sources for your cells. So, recently, Tony Robbins and I wrote a book called Life Force. And it hit number one in the New York Times, but the first three weeks was out. Super proud. It's amazing book, yeah. And the book looks at all of the breakthroughs today

• 16:07Peter Diamandis?

  that are, have just come out, have been out for a bit, and then the ones that are coming out. And for treating cardiovascular disease, cancer, neurodegenerative disease, Alzheimer's, for increasing your vitality and your strength. And what I can tell you is that the speed of innovation is breathtaking. Wow. Right, is breathtaking. And part of that is understanding why we age. There's a great, another book called Lifespan. So, Tony and I wrote Life Force, a guy named David Sinclair. That was great, yeah. Lifespan, are you familiar? Yeah, I've had David on a few times. Fantastic, so David's brilliant. And he does an incredible job of explaining why we age, and his work in the Sertuin Systems.

• 16:52Peter Diamandis?

  These are the seven genes and factors that control your epigenome and also control Repairing mutations in the genome. So the good news is what was used to be a crazy idea. I mean, people would laugh at you and you wouldn't get funding if you were talking about the idea of longevity research or age reversal is now become mainstream. It's the hottest subject. You know, arguably tens of billions of dollars are flowing in per year.

• 17:23Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 17:24Peter Diamandis?

  Into research, yeah.

• 17:25Lewis Howes?

  If you're a, I just turned 39, so I'm gonna be 40 next year. If you're me.

• 17:30Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 17:30Lewis Howes?

  What were the things you say you, you need to start thinking about doing or applying ASAP that are free or pretty inexpensive right now? And then what are the things that if you're like, if you've got the funds, like these three things you've got to invest in now like yesterday?

• 17:45Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, great question. So number one, it's still the basics, right? It's.

• 17:51Lewis Howes?

  Eat well, sleep well.

• 17:52Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, it's eight hours of sleep and I've got my Oura ring and I am, I actually, when I was in medical school, I used to pride myself on getting by with five or five and a half hours of sleep, right? It was like, it was like the manly thing to do.

• 18:04Lewis Howes?

  I think Tony was like that for a long time too, right?

• 18:06Peter Diamandis?

  He has been and he, I think he's finally got religion as we wrote this book. But I pride myself on eight hours of sleep now. I really am shooting for that. I'm getting, you know, in bed by nine 30 because I'm, my, my eyes pop open at 5:30. So if I want to get those, that sleep, that's what I gotta do. It's like bringing the temperature down, wearing an eye mask, you know, a cooling blanket, all those things and they're tricks and trades. There's a great book by Matt Walker called Why We Sleep.

• 18:34Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, he's great.

• 18:35Peter Diamandis?

  Which is brilliant.

• 18:35Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, we've had him on too.

• 18:36Peter Diamandis?

  So sleep is critical. Minimizing sugar, I mean, sugar is in moderation is fine, but sugar is an inflammatory molecule. It causes neuroinflammation, cardiovascular disease. It's not a good thing. You know, I tend towards a plant-based diet. I tend towards minimizing any kind of red meat. I'm mostly fish and Mediterranean diet. And then exercise is key, right? So as much exercise as I can get, I'll, I'll squeeze in there. So those are the, those are the basics and there's a whole slew of supplements. If you have the money and it's not too early for you to do this, I started a company called

• 19:20Peter Diamandis?

  Fountain Life and Fountain Life is in the, in the book. In detail, we have facilities in New York, in Pittsburgh, in Florida. We're opening soon in Dallas, in Santa Monica here. And it's a annual membership. And you go and we do a digital upload of you. It's the best I can describe it. We do a full body MRI. Brain MRI, brain vasculature. And those, what we're looking for there is finding cancer at the very beginning. It's stage zero, right? And also finding any kind of aneurysms.

• 20:02Peter Diamandis?

  And so 2% of people who come through have a cancer they don't know about. Come on. That's crazy, right? 2.5% have an aneurysm they don't know about. All right, an aneurysm is a opening in the arterial vessel. If you've had someone die in their sleep, a lot of times it's from an aneurysm that bursts. And then we do a coronary, an AI-enabled, what's called a CLEARLY CT. And so historically, you'd go and you'd get your calcium score. And if you had a lot of calcium, that was considered bad. But calcified plaque in your coronary arteries is stable. It's the soft plaque you need to be worried about that can rupture and then block, you know, one of the coronary arteries.

• 20:46Peter Diamandis?

  And we use an AI-enabled CT called CLEARLY, C-L-E-E-R-L-Y, to find soft plaque. Okay. And then we monitor that for you. And then we do a GRAIL test, which is a blood test that can find 50 different cancers. We do all of your, all of your omics, your gut, your genomics, everything. How long does this take to do all these tests? It's five hours. Total. To do all the imaging. No, not at all, not at all. You just have to be patient and sit there. And then we do a quarterly follow-up and you get a concierge doc with you. Interesting. But the idea is, listen, all of us. Are going to develop a disease at some point, right?

• 21:30Peter Diamandis?

  Well, they're saying death is a disease, right? I mean, I mean. Yeah, exactly. Aging is a disease, right? Aging is a disease, but you're going to, you know, God willing, you don't, but cancer, neurodegenerative, you want to find something at the very beginning when you can zap it. Uh huh. And if you find it at the beginning, there's ways to reverse them? Yes, there are. Listen, your chance, if you discover any of these things early enough on, there are from cardiovascular and cancer and neurodegenerative and all of these things. Uh, yes, you want to find it in the beginning. And people go, I don't want to know, bullshit. You want to know as early as you can so you can take action. Was there anything that you found that was, you know, nervous about?

• 22:12Peter Diamandis?

  I found, uh, so my biggest risk is cardiovascular, uh, heart disease. My father, I think, you know, pretty much passed from implications of cardiovascular disease. And I have reversed the cardiovascular disease that I've had with a series of medical protocols. Interesting. Um, and, uh, and that, and that makes me feel, uh, much more empowered, right? And so monitoring then my muscle and my bone density and everything else. But knowledge is power. And, uh, if you want to live a long and healthy life, uh, you want to know as much as you can, uh, going into this. Is this something you do every year then?

• 22:57Peter Diamandis?

  I do every year, yes, I've done it. We have a facility, we have a sister company called Human Longevity, HLI, in San Diego. And so I, I'd been going to the one in San Diego, uh, for the first five, six years. And then, uh, last two years, I've been going to this new company that. Santa Monica? And, well, it's nationwide, but, uh, called Fountain Life. You can go to fountainlife.com. Santa Monica will open by the end of this year. I'll have to check that out. You, you should. And I think if you can afford it, and it's not cheap. It's, you know, nineteen thousand five hundred for the first year and then fourteen thousand five hundred for every year thereafter. But it includes a concierge doc and includes all the workup and, and it's a fiduciary for your health. Right?

• 23:40Peter Diamandis?

  Now, the cool thing we're doing on top of that, which I love, is, uh, we're reinventing health insurance. So I think, and we have something called Fountain Health, which is our insurance program for, it's for self-insured companies right now, but we'll go beyond that. So, you know, think about this. Life insurance pays you after you're dead, right? Health insurance pays you after you've been sick. Fire insurance pays you after your house burns down. And that's just like pathetic. And so what we're doing with Fountain Health is when, when you get this health insurance, all of the testing I mentioned before is free.

• 24:23Peter Diamandis?

  And so our job is to test you annually

• 24:26Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 24:27Peter Diamandis?

  and catch the disease at the beginning and prevent it from happening.

• 24:32Lewis Howes?

  So I pay for the health insurance, I get the testing from Fountain Life for free?

• 24:36Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 24:37Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 24:38Peter Diamandis?

  So it's a

• 24:38Lewis Howes?

  So it helps you prevent and not have to spend

• 24:40Peter Diamandis?

  It's all about preventive. It's personalized preventative predictive healthcare.

• 24:46Lewis Howes?

  You mentioned, you know, you lose, is it stem cells? I think you said you lose after a period of time.

• 24:50Peter Diamandis?

  So the other side of Fountain Life is we have therapeutics.

• 24:54Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 24:55Peter Diamandis?

  And there are a whole slew. In fact, my meeting right after our conversation is going to meet with one of my physicians. I've got an army of them to look at what therapeutics I want to do this year.

• 25:08Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 25:09Peter Diamandis?

  And so there's things called synergic medicines. So it turns out your cells in your body are replicate on the order of 50 times. And at the end of 50 replications, they should die. Make room for new cells. Unfortunately, sometimes they don't die and they become cancers. Or they can stick around in what they're called a zombie cell or a senile cell. And these cells are sitting there just pumping out inflammatory. And about 2% of the cells in your body are these zombie senile cells. And so there are medicines you can take that can target those and kill them.

• 25:52Peter Diamandis?

  And those are called senolytic medicines. And so there's things like Dastinib, Corcidin, and Rapamycin. And then there are exosomes and stem cell treatments. Now, what we're working on, because today you can get your own stem cells. You can go to your bone marrow or your blood and separate out stem cells, concentrate them, and give them back. But you can bank them or give them back to yourself. Or you can go and get stem cells from the placenta of a newborn. And we are working to get approvals in the US from the FDA under what's called an investigational new drug application to do that.

• 26:37Peter Diamandis?

  Because right now, we at Fountain Life will make recommendations for facilities in the Caribbean, or in Costa Rica, or Panama, or other places where you can go. But you can't get newborn stem cells legally in the United States because they've not been FDA approved. Right. Our goal is do the science, demonstrate what's possible, and get the FDA approval so that we can rejuvenate ourselves. Have you done stem cell work yourself? I've done some stem cell work. I'm looking at for sort of the decade ahead. I've done exosomes. What's that? Which are legal.

• 27:19Peter Diamandis?

  So when a stem cell, a newborn stem cell is sitting there, and it's producing growth factors, those growth factors are not just pumped in out, they are put into these small vacuoles, like a piece of cellular membrane from the stem cell that has the growth factors in them, and then they're released. And so they have no DNA, they have no organelles, they're basically the messaging factors. And you can separate those out from the placenta, the newborn placenta, and provide those as... So you're getting the therapeutic output of the stem cell without getting the cells themselves. Right. Is there anything other advanced things that you've done for yourself already?

• 28:04Peter Diamandis?

  Like with injections or pulling out blood or anything like that? Yeah, so I'm on testosterone optimization right now.

• 28:13Peter Diamandis?

  So Is that the pellets or is that like No, it's an injection twice a week that I do. You're looking pretty, you're looking pretty I feel, yeah. You're a jack man. Strong like ox. Smell like ox too.

• 28:27Peter Diamandis?

  But I've not done growth hormone yet. I'm looking at that. I'm looking at something called total plasma exchange. So this is like changing your oil where you'll, you'll pull out a few liters of blood. You'll separate out the red cells and the, and the white cells. And then the rest of the plasma is typically some saline and albumin, which is the major protein, and you can replace those. And you are sort of refreshing your, your blood supply. So there was a, you probably remember this, a whole bunch of conversation around the idea of young blood.

• 29:08Peter Diamandis?

  Remember that? There were these parabiosis experiments that when my business partners, Bob Hury, Dr. Hury, who's the CEO of Cellularity, did years ago, in which you took an old mouse and a, and a young mouse and you connected the circulatory systems. And the old mouse got young and the young mouse got old. And I was like, what's going on? This is interesting. And so there are a few different things. There's a company that has identified one factor called GDF 11, growth factor 11, and is manufacturing that right now. Interesting. My venture fund's an investor in that. And it falls off as we age. And so the question is, is giving it as we age going to be part of that young blood experiment?

• 29:53Peter Diamandis?

  But what they also did was they took the old mouse and they took out the blood and replaced it with this total plasma exchange and the mouse got younger too. Interesting. So there's a lot of different factors. I mean, we're in the early part of this adventure. Right? There's this concept called longevity escape velocity. And that Aubrey de Grey and Ray Kurzweil talk about, which is today, for every year you're alive, science is extending your life for about a quarter of a year.

• 30:27Peter Diamandis?

  And but there's going to be a point at which for every year you're alive, science extends your life for greater than a year, right? From all the breakthroughs that are occurring. So what is that? When is that gonna happen? Ray's prediction, Ray Kurzweil's prediction was a dozen years from now. And then I asked another friend, George Church, he's one of the most brilliant scientists on the planet, a geniologist at Harvard. And his, his answer shocked me, he said fifteen years from now. So, our mission is not to die from something stupid in the interim.

• 30:57Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:59Peter Diamandis?

  Right?

• 30:59Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 31:00Peter Diamandis?

  And so, we talked about a lot of this in, in, in Life Force. And it's really about how do you maintain vitality, the energy, the desire, right? Cause people retire when they're not feeling well, when they don't have the energy anymore, they're not excited about life. And then there's a whole bunch of supplements I take, it's like a laundry list of supplements. And, um,

• 31:22Lewis Howes?

  Rosperatrol and,

• 31:23Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, Rosperatrol and, and, and NMN.

• 31:27Lewis Howes?

  Uh-huh. Everything from Sinclair, yeah.

• 31:29Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, and there's a bunch of others. And at the end of the day, our body is a machine. And we are beginning to discover why we age. How do you slow it down? How do you stop it? Maybe how do you reverse it?

• 31:47Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. How important is love, purpose, and inner peace?

• 31:54Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 31:54Lewis Howes?

  And extending our lifespan?

• 31:56Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, I, I think they're extraordinary. I think mindset, I talk about food, exercise, sleep, and then mindset is fundamental.

• 32:05Lewis Howes?

  Uh-huh.

• 32:05Peter Diamandis?

  I think love and, and companionship and purpose. You've all heard the stories of, you know, the couple that is deeply in love and one dies and the, and the one dies shortly thereafter, right? I mean, I think you can will yourself to death. And of course, our founding fathers, this country, I forget which two of them, like, you know, died within hours of the 50th anniversary of the founding of the country.

• 32:35Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 32:35Peter Diamandis?

  Right, they went like, I'm gonna make it to that point, I'm gonna, damn it, I'm gonna make it there, right? And so, having a purpose, and, and this is something that is really deeply meaningful for me right now. And I'm spending a lot of time on this. I had an experience, so I co-founded something called Singularity University with Ray Kurzweil. And I did that now, almost fifteen years ago.

• 33:02Peter Diamandis?

  And we have executive programs and graduate programs. And Abundance 360, my program, is the year-round highest-level version of Singularity University. And the graduate programs, we'd get 100 graduate students from around the world, top of their class, the best in AI and robotics and medicine, whatever it might be. And I remember every year I would ask a question. How many of you are clear about your purpose in life? And shockingly. Not many would respond. Less than half the class. And I expected 90% there, right? This is the brightest of the bright. And they're just, you know, from the top universities and entrepreneurs.

• 33:44Peter Diamandis?

  And so it would be like 40% would raise their hand. And I'm like, holy shit. Listen, for everybody who doesn't know, your mission in this program is to find your passion and purpose. That's all. I don't care what you build as a company. Find your passion and purpose because it drives everything. There's a great Mark Twain quote. He says, "There are two important days in your life. The day you were born and the day you found out why." And so I'm on a mission right now to help people find their passion and purpose. And so I just launched, it's a free 30-day program called Mindset Bootcamp.

• 34:27Peter Diamandis?

  And if you go to diamandis.com/mindset, you sign up. It's a 30-day sequence of emails that will hopefully change the way you see your life and your world and help you find your passion, find your purpose, but then give you insights into the mindsets that will enable you to fulfill your passion and your purpose. What happens if we don't find our passion or our purpose? I think you're on a meandering walk. And you can still enjoy yourself, but I think it's really at the end of your life, looking back. And by the way, your passion, your purpose can be your family.

• 35:11Peter Diamandis?

  And that can be just 100% and it can be... It can be fulfilling in that it can be, you know, to go and open the space frontier. It can be to go right a wrong. It's like, you know, a lot of this, and I talk about this in this, in the mindset bootcamp. A lot of this comes from emotional energy. We're emotional beings. Yes. Right? We need, we need that emotional energy to do anything big and bold in the world. And that emotional energy can come from awe and excitement. So for me, you know, I was born in the 60s and it was the Apollo program and Star Trek. Right? Apollo showed me, you know, what we could do. And Star Trek was that visionary documentary that showed us where we were going.

• 35:55Peter Diamandis?

  And that lit me on fire and everything I've ever done is a result of that passion, that purpose. And that's a positive passion and purpose. You can, people who've been wronged in their life, whatever it might have been, it's like, I refuse to let that happen again. I will not let that happen to another person. And that can fuel your passion and purpose. Right. And I think it just makes every day more, more meaningful. It's like waking up in the morning and, and moving the needle, making a dent in the universe. And here's the important thing for, for folks who have not found their passion and purpose. It's easier than ever before. The tools you have to do something big and bold in the world are greater than any time ever in human history.

• 36:40Peter Diamandis?

  Access to more capital, more knowledge, more compute, more connected people on the planet. And so, I don't care if you're 80 years old beginning your journey, or if you're eight. It's like finding a, a purpose driven life, I think is a really important element. So, you know, my, my bootcamp is, is part of that equation. And then for me, it's, it's really helping people find the mindset. So I deal a lot with entrepreneurs. Yes. And one of my favorite questions for them is, okay, give me your favorite entrepreneurs. Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, you know, whatever your list is. Or your favorite leaders on the planet, Martin Luther King, you know, you know, Muhammad

• 37:25Peter Diamandis?

  Gandhi, whatever it is. And I said to you, what made them succeed? Was it the cash they had in the bank? Was it the technology they had access to, or was it their mindset? And I think, I know you'd agree. Yeah, mindset's everything, right? And so, whereas the greatness mindset, gratitude mindset, abundance, exponential, longevity, moonshot mindset. Because if you took away their money, and you took away their relationships, and you took away their technology, if they maintained their mindset, they'd get back a lot of what they lost. Maybe they'd go even further. And so, if that's true, what mindset do you have? I ask them, what mindset do you have? And where did you get it from?

• 38:08Peter Diamandis?

  Did you just like happen to inherit it? Did you get it from your mom, your dad, your school, your brother, your sister? Where was it? And I think that we should be more actively choosing the mindset we desire.

• 38:22Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 38:23Peter Diamandis?

  And then shaping the mindset. So, I mean, we both are knowledgeable about, you know, AI and machine learning, that it's really incredibly, it's rising monumentally. And when you think about machine learning, what machine learning is as a form, as a, one of the areas of AI, is you're showing a computer neural net, image after image after image, data point after data point after data point, and you're training that neural net to recognize cats, or dogs, or the English language, whatever the case might be. Our brains are neural nets.

• 39:03Peter Diamandis?

  And what we see, what we listen to, who we hang out with, all of that is training our neural net. So, like I like to say, if you're watching CNN for two or three hours a day, and I call CNN the crisis news network, or the constantly negative news network, you're gonna feel like you're under attack, like the world is ending, and your mindset's gonna be a very negative mindset.

• 39:28Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 39:28Peter Diamandis?

  And so, ultimately, it's like, don't do that.

• 39:33Peter Diamandis?

  Just don't. I mean, and so I'm on, you know, I haven't watched any network news. I will get up in the morning, I will, I'll do two things. I will spend about 10 minutes on, on Google News, right? And just look at what's going on to make sure there's nothing in the world I need to know about. Also, my mom will call me and tell me this thing I need to know about. And the other is I built an engine called Futurescope. And you might actually like this. So Futurescope as an engine allows you to build customized news feeds for yourself. Oh, that's cool. And so I built two. One's called Futureloop. And so what I did was I gave Future, I gave Futurescope the AI engine there.

• 40:17Peter Diamandis?

  All of my blogs, my books, my Twitter stream, and it modeled the way I think.

• 40:24Peter Diamandis?

  And then it searches the world's news every day. And, and brings the news to me that has positive semantic about converging exponentials impacting the industries I'm interested in. So if you go to futureloop.com, you'll get, you'll get 15 articles every day selected by Virtual Peter on longevity, on, on space, on reinventing transportation, reinventing health, reinventing retail. And it's, I use GPT-3, which is one of the AI engines out of OpenAI. And it's, it's like, this is the news I care about. This is the stuff in the world that I want shaping my neural net.

• 41:09Peter Diamandis?

  Sure. And then I created another one called longevityinsider.org. Okay. And I love it. Longevityinsider.org, it scrapes everything on Twitter, all the science journals, all the news journals. And I get 15 updates every day on breakthroughs in longevity and vitality and health. And the engine picks the photo, the AI engine picks a photo and it writes a very understandable summary of the article. So you don't need to have any medical background. It's like, oh, that's fascinating. And for me, that's part of our longevity mindset. If you believe that you have the potential to add 30 healthy years on your life.

• 41:54Peter Diamandis?

  You're gonna treat your life much differently than if you don't.

• 41:58Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 41:59Peter Diamandis?

  If you think, you know, you're gonna be dead at seventy, seventy-five, you know, you're gonna give up on life. If you think you've got an extra, you know, you're doing a hundred and twenty in a healthy way, then you're going to be, you know, looking at starting your next company, getting your next boyfriend or girlfriend, whatever the case might be.

• 42:16Lewis Howes?

  If someone is stuck in a negative mindset, but they wanna lean more into a purpose-driven mindset, what are some of the steps they can take? Because this is a conditioning that some people have for decades.

• 42:28Peter Diamandis?

  It is. And you can, the beautiful thing about the human brain is it's plastic. The term of plasticity, it's changeable. And you just need to do that rewiring. And there are a number of different things you can do. It's, what are you reading?

• 42:42Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 42:43Peter Diamandis?

  What are you watching? Who are you hanging out with? Right? I mean, just think about it for yourself. Would you rather hang out with someone who is like a positive mindset, you know, there's no problem I can't fix, you know, or someone who's reading the obituaries and just like, you know, it's not to say that there are times in our life when there's something going on in the world that we need to pay attention to because we have the ability to make a difference. But I don't need to be bombarded by it every day.

• 43:11Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 43:12Peter Diamandis?

  Because it doesn't make me a happier person or a more active person. I think it's, again, what are you letting in? What posters are on your wall?

• 43:20Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:21Peter Diamandis?

  I'll never forget, when I was in in medical school, I was starting my first university called the International Space University. My co-founder, Todd Hawley, I think as a joke and really just to goad me, put on his wall Murphy's Law. Which is if anything can go wrong, it will.

• 43:39Lewis Howes?

  Things start going wrong?

• 43:40Peter Diamandis?

  It was like, it's like, just really offensive. And so I went, I had a whiteboard behind me. I went to my whiteboard and I wrote, if anything can go wrong, fix it to hell with Murphy. And I wrote Peter's Law over it. And then I have like, Google Peter's Laws, there are like thirty-two of them now. You know, when given a choice, take both, start at the top and work your way up. Do it by the book, but be the author. That's cool. Best way to predict the future is create it yourself. And it's the truisms that I live my life by. So what are on your, what's on your walls, right? Who are, who are your most positive minded, you know, optimistic friends? Spend more time with them. You know, if you want to get thin or in good shape, hang out with people who are thin and in good shape.

• 44:25Peter Diamandis?

  I mean, these are just fundamentals. And then, you know, that's a lot of part of the element that I talk about in, in my mindset bootcamp. The other part is giving people the data. So a few of the mindsets that I focus on, an abundance mindset. Let's talk about that in a second. So what's an abundance mindset? An abundance mindset is the belief that there is nothing truly scarce. So we grew up as a human species in scarcity. And our physiology and our, the way our brain is wired for scarcity. And so in an abundance mindset, I'll give you two simple examples and then go into more detail here.

• 45:07Peter Diamandis?

  If I have an orange tree, I'm, I'm five-five, I grab the oranges from the lowest hanging branches. All of a sudden, orange tree, oranges are scarce again. Until I invent a piece of technology called a ladder that gives me higher reach. And now I've got access to oranges again. If you've got a pie and you've got, you know, a family of four coming over for dinner. But then all your neighbors hear about it and they all come for dinner. You have to slice the pie into thinner and thinner slices. And an abundance mindset is like bullshit, we're gonna go bake more pies. Right. Right? So the realization is technology is turning whatever used to be scarce into abundance.

• 45:47Peter Diamandis?

  Another great example, we used to go kill whales on the ocean to get whale oil to light our nights. Right? Then we ravaged mountainsides to get coal. Then we drilled kilometers in the ocean ground to get oil. And now we're living on a planet that has eight thousand times more energy from the sun than we consume as a species in a year. Eight thousand times. Twenty twenty-two is the first year that we'll have more electricity.

• 46:17Peter Diamandis?

  Added to the grid from solar than any other form. And so we're heading towards a squanderable abundance of energy, right? Fusion is coming down the line. Anyway, so the realization is there is nothing truly scarce.

• 46:30Lewis Howes?

  Does your mindset ever play tricks on you and go into scarcity, go into victim, go into?

• 46:35Peter Diamandis?

  Of course, I'm human. I mean, and that's the default code. And so I need to get, I get myself out of it. Uh, like what's bugging me? And meditation in the morning is a great way to do that. You know, an exponential mindset is we evolved in a local and linear world. Nothing changed, right? The life of your great, great, great, great grandparents and the life of your great, great, great, great grandchildren was the same, right? Over millennia, that was it. But today we're living in a world where, where technology is growing exponentially. Things are not changing century to century or decade to decade. They're changing year to year. And so an exponential mindset is understanding

• 47:19Peter Diamandis?

  how computation, sensors, networks, AI, robotics, 3D printing, synthetic biology, augmented virtual reality, web three, how all these technologies are just, are transforming what each of us can do in our lives. You know, when I teach that to entrepreneurs, it's really important to think about that. A longevity mindset, we talked about.

• 47:42Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm. The moonshot?

• 47:43Peter Diamandis?

  A moonshot mindset is around the idea that, that the majority of the world is happy with 10%. Right? The majority of the world is like, huh? If I could get 10% more revenue or 10% lower costs, that's awesome. But we're living in a world today where you can go not 10% better, but 10 times better. We see this in our epic entrepreneurs. Astro Teller, who's the head of moonshots at Alphabet, gives a great example. He says, listen, if you're running a car company and you want to go from 50 miles per gallon to 55 miles per gallon, you could probably do that by lightweighting

• 48:26Peter Diamandis?

  the materials, maybe making your aerodynamic a little bit more, changing the tires or a little efficiency. But if I ask you to go from 50 miles per gallon to 500 miles per gallon. You need to start with a clean sheet of paper and reinvent what you're doing.

• 48:40Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:41Peter Diamandis?

  And when you think about what Bezos did with Amazon, what Larry and Sergey did with Google, what Elon's done with Tesla and SpaceX, those are starting with clean sheets of paper and reinventing the model. So, we all can think about our moonshots. It's like, where do you want to go 10 times bigger when the rest of the world is happy with 10%?

• 49:04Lewis Howes?

  How does someone start reinventing 10 times bigger over 10%?

• 49:09Peter Diamandis?

  So, again, I have a week worth of lessons on moonshot thinking in here. Part of it is realizing that the way it currently is done is not necessarily the only way to do it.

• 49:21Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 49:22Peter Diamandis?

  And it's first principles thinking. An example I give in the blogs, or when Elon went to go do Tesla, the batteries didn't exist, and he said-

• 49:32Lewis Howes?

  They didn't exist?

• 49:33Peter Diamandis?

  Well, the batteries at the price and the energy densities didn't exist to do this. And so, he said, "Okay, well, how much should they cost?" And then going and looking at the spot price for lithium and boron and the materials inside the batteries, realized that it can be, you know, an order of magnitude cheaper, but he'd need to do that, right? So, just the way things are right now isn't the way they need to be. He did the same thing with reusable rockets. And so, you've got to be clear about your purpose.

• 50:09Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 50:10Peter Diamandis?

  What I call, what I talk about is you need to know what your massive transformative purpose is.

• 50:17Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 50:17Peter Diamandis?

  What is that thing that you connect with in your heart and soul? That is like, you're not going to give up. So, for me, my MTP early on was space. It was Apollo and Star Trek got me going. And I wanted to become an astronaut so badly. I went to medical school, half to be my parents happy, other half because if I wasn't a fighter pilot, physicians were the next likely.

• 50:41Peter Diamandis?

  And when I learned about my chance of becoming an NASA astronaut, like one in a thousand. I mean, really, like, very slim. I said, okay, I have to reinvent how to do this. Right, and you went to MIT and Harvard and anywhere, top of everything. Top of the schools. I read a book called The Spirit of St. Louis one day, that Lindbergh flew from New York to Paris, not on a whim, but to win a $25,000 prize. And as a result of that, I said, I'm gonna create a prize for private spaceflight. And so my moonshot became opening up the private space frontier. And we did that, we had the $10 million Ansari X Prize for Spaceflight. We changed the rules and regulations.

• 51:26Peter Diamandis?

  You know, Virgin Galactic basically bought the rights to the winning technology. I've done Bezos for 40 years. That X Prize sparked him, Elon, and so we lit the fuse on commercial spaceflight. And that was my moonshot. My moonshot now is age reversal. How do I reverse human age by decades? Because I wanna, I wanna go to the moon, I wanna go to Mars, I wanna go and see another star system. Wait, if you could predict the exact day that you'll walk on the moon? Oh. What year? 2030 to 2032, that timeframe. It's expensive still, you know, Starship will bring it down.

• 52:08Peter Diamandis?

  I was just over at SpaceX with the commercial spaceflight team there. And, you know, they're selling tickets to orbit, and they're going to be selling. For like a quarter of a million or something, right? I know, well, that's on a suborbital flight. Orbit's 50 million right now. 50 million? Yeah. Sure, okay. And then there's something called the cis lunar orbit, like Apollo 8, where you launch, you launch from the Earth. And then you go out around the moon and come back.

• 52:38Lewis Howes?

  That's kinda cool.

• 52:39Peter Diamandis?

  That's cool.

• 52:40Lewis Howes?

  How much is that?

• 52:41Peter Diamandis?

  That's gonna be on Starship and that'll be again 50 million.

• 52:44Lewis Howes?

  50 million to go around. How long does it take to get to the moon?

• 52:47Peter Diamandis?

  It's like three days there and three days back. Yeah, so it's like a.

• 52:49Lewis Howes?

  It's a week trip to go around the moon.

• 52:52Peter Diamandis?

  Go around the moon.

• 52:52Lewis Howes?

  But not land on the moon.

• 52:53Peter Diamandis?

  Not land. And so that's attractive as an idea, right?

• 52:58Lewis Howes?

  When would that happen?

• 52:59Peter Diamandis?

  A couple of years.

• 53:00Lewis Howes?

  People are gonna go around the moon in a couple of years.

• 53:02Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, there's a, there is a Japanese client who's already purchased the first Starship mission to do that.

• 53:10Lewis Howes?

  That's crazy.

• 53:10Peter Diamandis?

  And he's, yeah, it's, it's great. It's crazy. It's great.

• 53:15Lewis Howes?

  So you think in 10 years, eight to 10 years, you'll walk on the moon?

• 53:18Peter Diamandis?

  I think that's a good objective for me. And, and the question is, will I do a Sis lunar? I've got, took a few companies public last year. I'm gonna wait for their stock price to go up.

• 53:28Lewis Howes?

  If you, if you, let's say you had to do this in, in five years. You had to walk on the moon in five years. What would you had to? Like it was, or your, or your life was over.

• 53:37Peter Diamandis?

  Okay, yeah.

• 53:38Lewis Howes?

  What would need to happen from you to shift the mindset to accelerate this in half the time?

• 53:45Peter Diamandis?

  Elon is moving as fast as humanly possible. There's no question. I mean, the guy is brilliant off the charts. He's, you know, there's, there's a great Joseph Campbell quote where someone is driven as a man whose hair is on fire seeks water. I love that image, right? It's like, where is it now? I gotta go. And so on, on SpaceX, and I've been there throughout his entire journey from roughly 2000, 2001, when he sold PayPal to eBay to building SpaceX and what he's doing. He'll spend every penny he's got to make the human race a multi-plan species.

• 54:27Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 54:28Peter Diamandis?

  And Starship, I remember I was with him one day back, I don't know, it was eight years ago, and he was really bummed. And I was like, what's up? And he goes, we just figured out that the Falcon 9 vehicle is not going to get us to Mars. It's not gonna fulfill the mission. It's all about getting the human race. To Mars and we're gonna have to scrap that and do something new. And he he made that decision and Starship came out of that, right? So Starship is 10 times bigger. It's able to carry 100 people to orbit.

• 55:00Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 55:01Peter Diamandis?

  It's able to, you know, it's a completely reusable, not just the first stage. It can land on the moon, it can land on Mars. And we'll be seeing it go into orbit this year and that's the vehicle.

• 55:12Lewis Howes?

  That's incredible.

• 55:13Peter Diamandis?

  That's it's humanity's first real starship.

• 55:16Lewis Howes?

  That's incredible.

• 55:18Peter Diamandis?

  Like on the Starship, interplanetary ship.

• 55:20Lewis Howes?

  That'll go to the moon?

• 55:21Peter Diamandis?

  Land on the moon, go to and go to Mars. Yeah, it's it's designed and built to colonize, can take 12 people to the Martian surface.

• 55:30Lewis Howes?

  When when will it go to the moon?

• 55:33Peter Diamandis?

  Uh, 2025, three years from now.

• 55:36Lewis Howes?

  That's incredible.

• 55:37Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, it is incredible. So I I don't think there's anything I can do other than maybe throw a little more money his way. But he's got it.

• 55:46Lewis Howes?

  I think he's got that. I'm curious about your ability to enroll. I'm a big believer that life is about enrollment.

• 55:55Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, completely.

• 55:56Lewis Howes?

  Enrolling yourself in your vision, enrolling others in your vision, um, enrolling communities, the world and a mission, whatever it might be. When did you learn the the skill set, the mindset of enrollment?

• 56:08Peter Diamandis?

  Yes, that's a really.

• 56:09Lewis Howes?

  For for your life and also, again, you work with some of the most successful or influential people on the planet, whether they be the the richest people in the world or influential people like Tony Robbins and Elon Musk and Bezos. You're working with them, you're in collaboration, you're enrolling them to give you hundreds of millions of dollars in ideas or businesses or moonshots.

• 56:32Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 56:32Lewis Howes?

  How have you developed that enrollment mindset?

• 56:35Peter Diamandis?

  That's a great question, no one ever asked me that. And I think it's really important for any entrepreneur, uh, period, or a mother or a father, right? So I became driven by my desire to go to space.

• 56:51Lewis Howes?

  When was this?

• 56:52Peter Diamandis?

  Well, I, you know.

• 56:53Lewis Howes?

  As a kid.

• 56:54Peter Diamandis?

  At nine years old, um, you know, Apollo 11, 12 is going on.

• 56:58Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 56:59Peter Diamandis?

  Uh, I'm eight, nine years old and Apollo catches my excitement and I'm like, going to be a doctor, make my family happy, but I'm really going to become an astronaut, make myself happy. And I get to college and I'm at MIT as an undergrad.

• 57:15Peter Diamandis?

  And I'm beginning to realize that becoming a government astronaut isn't necessarily the way I'm gonna do this. And for some reason, I became enamored with creating a national and then an international space organization. It's out there now, you know, whatever that is, forty odd years later. It's called Students for the Exploration and Development of Space, SEDS, and it's chapters around the world, throughout the United States. And I start this on the MIT campus, and Bezos is the president of the Princeton chapter, and a number of my friends are presidents. Did you guys go to school at the same time? Yeah, roughly. He was a couple of years behind me. Did you know him in college? Through SEDS, yeah.

• 58:00Peter Diamandis?

  Really? Yeah. That's fascinating. So, at MIT, I find there's no space organization, no student space group. And I'm like, huh, interesting, I'll start one. And I found myself, in starting that organization, getting all the skills I've used in life. To enroll people, you need to enroll the... Enroll people to get up on stage and present your ideas, and be able to organize people, and to raise money. And it's like, it was like, you know, do I remember anything from my aerospace engineering or molecular biology courses on my team? No, but I remember the stuff I did in the evenings, right? So it's like, you know, school is about all the places that you challenge yourself and put yourself.

• 58:44Peter Diamandis?

  And so SEDS was incredible educational experience. And enrolling people, whether you're getting to work for you, work with you, fund you. And people love supporting people who are both passionate, right? Finding that person, purpose and passion. And you know when someone's lit on fire. And it's like, I wanna help you 'cause I like your spirit, right? That's that kind of mindset. The other part of enrollment is the data.

• 59:18Peter Diamandis?

  Is showing people the reality of like, here's the information. This is why this is possible. This is what happens if this is true. So it really is the heart and the mind. Right? You need to get them cognitively so they understand it and they understand whether it's getting them to put money from a their investment hat or their philanthropic hat. And their heart because, you know, people wanted, want to make the world a better place. I believe in the, in the positive nature of, of a human.

• 59:48Lewis Howes?

  So is this a different conversation for each individual? Based on who they are, how they think, what, how they're wired?

• 59:55Peter Diamandis?

  It is.

• 59:55Lewis Howes?

  So if you're calling, let's just give me, give me an example. If you're gonna call Tony for something, or you're to call Elon for something, would you have a different approach on enrollment?

• 1:00:06Peter Diamandis?

  For sure.

• 1:00:07Lewis Howes?

  And what's, what's the intention you set before you do the meeting? The phone call, the FaceTime, whatever it is? Before you say, hey, I got this idea.

• 1:00:17Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:17Lewis Howes?

  I'd love to tell you about it. What's the intention internally?

• 1:00:20Peter Diamandis?

  Not bullshitting the person. It's coming across authentically. I, I think it is being clear about what my role and involvement like. I think this is critically important. I put my money, I put my reputation on, on this. Also, it's not being attached to the outcome.

• 1:00:39Lewis Howes?

  Whether they say yes or no.

• 1:00:40Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. Yeah, because you can drive with passion, but one of the, one of the lessons I learned when I was at Running Seds, I was trying to get a place called Draper Labs to donate money to publish my newsletters and mail them to all the Seds chapters. And I go in there and I'm like, meeting with the head of Draper Labs. And at the end it's like, like, we're a nonprofit, we can't donate money and so forth. And I was really bummed because I'd really set this expectation I was gonna succeed. And I'm walking out the door and I stop myself and I said,

• 1:01:16Peter Diamandis?

  Is there any chance you could do the printing for us and the mailing for us? And he goes, absolutely. And so it was realizing that any meeting you go into, you should walk away with something. Even if it is a clear critique of your idea. Or advice as to who might want to do this. Or a request for an introduction.

• 1:01:43Lewis Howes?

  Or come back to me with these, this and this.

• 1:01:46Peter Diamandis?

  Exactly.

• 1:01:46Lewis Howes?

  And I'll take another look or whatever it is. That's interesting. Or can I just at least take this bottle of water for free?

• 1:01:53Peter Diamandis?

  Or this.

• 1:01:54Lewis Howes?

  Something.

• 1:01:55Peter Diamandis?

  School of Greatness Mark.

• 1:01:57Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, can I get something out of this? That's fascinating. So you learned at MIT.

• 1:02:01Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:01Lewis Howes?

  The power of enrolling.

• 1:02:02Peter Diamandis?

  A lot enrolling and there is not taking no for an answer. When dealing with the bureaucracy, like one of my companies I started years ago is a company called Zero G. We do weightless parabolic flights. Right? I wanted to go and NASA's airplane, they wouldn't let me. So I said, screw it, I'll start my own. And I went to the FAA and said, I want to take a, back then it was a 727, take the airplane and seats out, put padding in, put 30 people in the back, take the airplane, go up at 50 degrees and do this parabolic arc. And they were like, you want to do what? You're insane. There's no way you can do this.

• 1:02:44Peter Diamandis?

  And I remember thinking to myself, I'm not going to let these guys stop me. And I said, you're either going to retire or die before I give up.

• 1:02:51Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:02:52Peter Diamandis?

  It took me 11 years.

• 1:02:53Lewis Howes?

  To convince them.

• 1:02:54Peter Diamandis?

  To get the FAA to approve it. It was an amazing woman, Marion Blakey, who was the head of the FAA, the administrator. I finally had to go all the way to the top to get, to get that approval. And we did. And we've been operating now, you can, the website's gozeroG.com. I just took. Sixty people up on two flights, took Pharrell.

• 1:03:15Lewis Howes?

  That's cool. Pharrell went up there? That's cool.

• 1:03:17Peter Diamandis?

  But isn't your purpose?

• 1:03:18Lewis Howes?

  You're gonna give up on it.

• 1:03:19Peter Diamandis?

  You're gonna give up on it. You're gonna, it's like the stuff, I've started companies just to make money, it's like, it's empty. No, not my purpose. I need to, this is what I'm doing.

• 1:03:28Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 1:03:29Peter Diamandis?

  This is what I'm focused on, right?

• 1:03:30Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, and sometimes your enrollment may be, how long are you willing to show up and say you care about this? It took you eleven years, you had to keep showing up and reinventing your ass and meeting different people and building your own credibility and your proven results and showing what's possible that where they finally said, "Okay, let's do it."

• 1:03:46Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, I mean, right now, you know, I've got a few moonshots. One is around helping millions of people find their purpose in life, right? And it's like, how do I scale that? Because I think, I think a person who's turned on to their, their passion and purpose is gonna make the world a better place. I just think that's-

• 1:04:04Lewis Howes?

  Happier, healthier.

• 1:04:05Peter Diamandis?

  Happier, healthier, taking more shots on goal, going after more moonshots. And I think that's a way of, of making the world better. The other moonshot I'm focused on is age reversal. So I've got a, either gonna be a hundred million dollar or two thousand bitcoin X Prize, X Prize for reversing the biological age of a person twenty years.

• 1:04:31Lewis Howes?

  What does that mean?

• 1:04:33Peter Diamandis?

  So you have a chronological age, right? So I'm chronologically sixty. You can measure a person's biological age. So biologically, last time I was, I was tested, I was forty-nine and a half. Mentally, I'm like twenty-eight, or sometimes I'm eight.

• 1:04:50Lewis Howes?

  But biologically, you're forty-nine and a half.

• 1:04:53Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:53Lewis Howes?

  Is what your-

• 1:04:54Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, that's what, that's what the, the testing did.

• 1:04:56Lewis Howes?

  That's through testing with blood and-

• 1:04:57Peter Diamandis?

  It's testing, oh, it's called your epigenetic clock. It's looking at the methylation pattern, which controls your epigenome, what genes are on or what genes are off. My goal is, is a therapeutic, some kind, something you'll do to your body. It could be stem cells, could be gene therapies, it could be CRISPR, who knows? I don't need to know the answer. That within a year of treatment, it could be a day of treatment, a month of treatment, but we're allowing up to a year, that we can reliably reverse your age, your biological age, 20 years.

• 1:05:31Lewis Howes?

  That's crazy.

• 1:05:32Peter Diamandis?

  All right, and then at least 20 years. And then, can you, can you repeat that, right? Can you repeat that?

• 1:05:38Lewis Howes?

  That's amazing.

• 1:05:39Peter Diamandis?

  So David Sinclair and George Church are both, you know, co-chairs of the advisory board for this and

• 1:05:46Lewis Howes?

  Kind of the judges, essentially, right?

• 1:05:48Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, well, helping design the prize, right? And, and then they may compete, in which case they would be the judges, but, but making sure the prize rules are, are set. And we have an amazing group. And I've raised, I've kicked in money for this. I've raised about 70 million thus far.

• 1:06:05Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:06:06Peter Diamandis?

  And, but I want to get it to at least, in fact, the principal donor right now, a guy named Chip Wilson, who was the founder of Lululemon, the first CEO. He said, I want to make it bigger than Elon's $100 million carbon prize. So he wants it to be 101 million. So he's put in 51 million. He put in

• 1:06:26Lewis Howes?

  Wow, that's, that's amazing. What's the most you've raised, whether it be for your venture fund, or business, or X Prize?

• 1:06:33Peter Diamandis?

  I mean, each one is, is different. I mean, I, last year, in January of last year, I, I reached out to Elon and talked to him about doing a carbon removal prize. And to his credit, he agreed pretty much on the spot. And so

• 1:06:50Lewis Howes?

  That was 100 million, right?

• 1:06:51Peter Diamandis?

  100 million, and then operating capital for the X Prize to run it, some additional couple of tens of million. And then, our, the venture fund, Bold Capital Partners, we raised 400, and we're raising another 100 to close out the round, so it'll be a $500 million round.

• 1:07:10Lewis Howes?

  Wow. What's the difference between enrolling someone in a million dollars or 100 million dollars? Which one's easier for you?

• 1:07:17Peter Diamandis?

  Well, listen, it's the number, the people who can contribute 100 million dollars is more rarefied than people who can contribute a million, for sure. One of the things I get angry about is that there are a multitude of people out there who've got billions, tens of billions, hundreds of billions.

• 1:07:37Peter Diamandis?

  And WTF, what are they doing with their money? I mean, there are very few people who are really taking full-on shots. You know, Elon is. There are a few others, but it's like, you can't take it with you. And if you leave it to your kids, you can destroy their lives. Right. So, like, you know, it's like, there are a few, and I've gotten to know a number of people. I'm like, guys, take some big shots on goal. Mm-hmm. You know, it's like, you know, there's so many incredible things to go after. And it's so funny, because we've gamified wealth retention. Right? So, I don't want to drop from number 20 on the Forbes list to number 80 by giving away $10 billion.

• 1:08:21Peter Diamandis?

  So, we need a countervailing force, right? So, you know, I've been... Should be like number one donor list. Well, impact list, right? Impact list. And so, I've gotten to know Tony Robbins very well. We're, we're super close friends, written together, started a number of companies together. And like, Tony's really, you know, extraordinarily philanthropic and, and has committed to feeding a billion people. Right? And he's like at 700 million on his way there. Crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. And, and so, you know, we funded a, so X Prize right now, we have, we've launched over $300 million of prizes. And those drive typically 10 to 20 times, so 3 to 6 billion of expenditures by the teams trying to win the prize.

• 1:09:06Peter Diamandis?

  We got a prize that Tony and the government of Abu Dhabi funded called Feeding the Next Billion, which is really around stem cell grown meats, right? Lab grown meats. So, where you can take a stem cell from a cow, a chicken, tuna, whatever, and grow the, the final product without having to knock down more rainforests or, you know... Create more schools of fish and, yeah, yeah, all those things.

• 1:09:32Lewis Howes?

  Who would you say are a few of the most brilliant people you've worked with? In terms of the Elons, the Bezos of the world? And what would you say are the greatest lessons that they've taught you? A few, obviously, there's so many, you probably can't name them all, but a few that you are...

• 1:09:46Peter Diamandis?

  I mean, so Ray Kurzweil, who is my co-founder for Singularity University, really helped me understand and embody an exponential mindset, right? And just the power of exponential technologies to take on the world's biggest problems. A guy named Gerard K. O'Neill, who's passed, he was a professor at Princeton, was a mentor for me, helped me understand how do you open the space frontier? You know, Elon, you know, I remember I was interviewing him on the stage at Goldman Sachs about some of this stuff, and he was like, "Yeah, my friends tell me what's great, my best friends tell me what's wrong." Right? And just the importance of critical thinking. And then first principle thinking, the idea of looking at the fundamentals

• 1:10:31Peter Diamandis?

  and what is possible from first principle physics. Because there's a lot of wishful thinking out there, but if you can boil it down in that regard. Martine Rothblatt, who's incredible, you know, she runs, you know, Therapeutics, it's a $10 billion company she started. Her audacity, her daughter. And I, all these people are heroes in our book, Life Force, Martinez. She started Sirius and XM Radio as a, when she was a he, undergoes sex change operations, but then later on discovers her daughter, Genesis, has a rare and fatal lung disease.

• 1:11:14Peter Diamandis?

  Quits, liquidates her capital, starts with a high school textbook to learn biology.

• 1:11:21Lewis Howes?

  Come on.

• 1:11:22Peter Diamandis?

  Develops a cure for her daughter's disease.

• 1:11:25Lewis Howes?

  No way.

• 1:11:26Peter Diamandis?

  It was, she tracked down Martine Rothblatt.

• 1:11:29Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:11:30Peter Diamandis?

  And there's a whole chapter on her. And she had pulmonary fibrosis and she tracks down a drug that it was an orphan drug that was never developed by one of these particular pharma companies, gets some white powder in a baggie and takes it into the lab with the world's experts and starts developing it. And that drug is now a multi-billion dollar blockbuster drug for this particular disease, but then realizes the drug's not going to cure her daughter. And so she needs to create a supply of replacement lungs. And so starts on three different, you know, so it's incredible story.

• 1:12:12Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:12:13Peter Diamandis?

  And now Martine is a, she's a helicopter pilot and also a, and she's funded one of the top flying car companies, the electric vertical takeoff or landing called Beta. And she wants to use the Beta EV tools for delivering organs to hospitals for transplant from our facility.

• 1:12:35Lewis Howes?

  This is crazy.

• 1:12:36Peter Diamandis?

  So like moonshot, moonshot number eight. Yeah, crazy stuff.

• 1:12:39Lewis Howes?

  Wow, I'm surprised I haven't heard about this.

• 1:12:41Peter Diamandis?

  And so, you know, Martine has taught me, you know, never, ever, ever, ever, ever give up, you know, her comment is every no is one step closer to yes, right?

• 1:12:50Lewis Howes?

  Wow, and how's her daughter now?

• 1:12:52Peter Diamandis?

  Great.

• 1:12:53Lewis Howes?

  Wow. This is fascinating, but it goes back to your idea of massive transformational purpose.

• 1:13:00Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:01Lewis Howes?

  And people figuring out what that is, which will drive their decisions every day towards something meaningful to them.

• 1:13:06Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, one of the lessons Martine has tried to teach me that I haven't fully gotten is how to say no to things, right? And so I'm

• 1:13:19Lewis Howes?

  To focus more.

• 1:13:20Peter Diamandis?

  To focus.

• 1:13:21Lewis Howes?

  Because you're everywhere.

• 1:13:22Peter Diamandis?

  It's like, that's my biggest challenge is really focusing in. And so it's something I try, I remember once Elon was on my board of trustees of X Prize along with Larry Page and a bunch of other amazing people. And I got a call from Elon saying, listen, I'm sorry, I'm stepping off of every board other than Tesla and SpaceX. This was, I don't know, a decade ago and he just, that was what he needed to do to get those.

• 1:13:48Lewis Howes?

  He blew it up, yeah.

• 1:13:49Peter Diamandis?

  And now, of course.

• 1:13:50Lewis Howes?

  Now he's everywhere.

• 1:13:51Peter Diamandis?

  And now he's every place. It's Neuralink and Boring Corporation and Twitter.

• 1:13:56Lewis Howes?

  But there's probably a period of time where each person needs to focus their efforts and not dilute their efforts. So they can get bigger results.

• 1:14:03Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, I think I'm there. Anyway.

• 1:14:05Lewis Howes?

  You started saying notice.

• 1:14:06Peter Diamandis?

  Start to say, yeah, really, it's really.

• 1:14:08Lewis Howes?

  Only have 50 things on your plate, not a thousand.

• 1:14:10Peter Diamandis?

  Well, it's understanding what is your MTP and what aligns with it and just.

• 1:14:17Lewis Howes?

  Going all in on it.

• 1:14:18Peter Diamandis?

  Focusing in on those because if you get those to the next level, then they enable everything else.

• 1:14:25Lewis Howes?

  If you could only work on two businesses or two ideas that you have right now for the next.

• 1:14:31Peter Diamandis?

  We'll talk about that in our next podcast.

• 1:14:34Lewis Howes?

  You don't want to hurt, upset all the entrepreneurs you're working with. Yeah, I got you. What is missing inside of you to take your mindset to the next level?

• 1:14:42Peter Diamandis?

  That area of focus. I mean, I really, I really goes back to that. I think the biggest thing I need to do is to, is to focus. You know, I'm also, part of that is I'm a people pleaser in that regard.

• 1:14:55Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:55Peter Diamandis?

  I was doing.

• 1:14:57Lewis Howes?

  Most of my life, yeah, it's tough.

• 1:14:58Peter Diamandis?

  And it's tough. So I was on stage with Eric Schmidt, uh, two weeks ago, uh, you know, past chairman of Google and Alphabet. And, uh, we're having a fireside chat from during my abundance 360 program. And I said, you've known a lot of incredible leaders out there. And I asked the question, do you have to be an asshole to be successful at a global level? Uh, and, and the, you know, multi billionaire class, not that he is or Larry and Sergey aren't, but there's a number of people, I won't go into it. That just don't give a shit what anybody else thinks. And so the question is, do you need to be that callous?

• 1:15:43Peter Diamandis?

  Or if you're playing at that level where you've got tens of billions of dollars and you're a captain of industry. I mean, what happens is you get successful enough, you start surrounding yourself with people who protect you.

• 1:15:54Lewis Howes?

  Right, and they become callous for you.

• 1:15:57Peter Diamandis?

  They become.

• 1:15:57Lewis Howes?

  They say no to you.

• 1:15:58Peter Diamandis?

  They know.

• 1:15:59Lewis Howes?

  For everybody else. What's the biggest lessons you've learned from Elon just in the last couple of years with everything he's been creating in terms of leadership style, in terms of investment style, in terms of strategy, in terms of his communication style on social media?

• 1:16:13Peter Diamandis?

  So it's interesting, right? So I had this conversation with him last April when we were launching this hundred million dollar gigaton carbon where we spent the day together and we did a couple hour fireside chat talking about stuff. And he was showing me, he was tweeting out about our fireside coming out. And I was, he was like, you know, I'm only sending out tweets that are either funny or have information that is useful to the individual. I'm not gonna, you know, I don't use Twitter for marketing or anything like that. Now, whether or not he's actually held to that is a different story, but that was definitely his belief in that regard. And just the audacity and his focus.

• 1:16:58Peter Diamandis?

  The guy, I know, we all work hard. But when it comes down to it, I was backstage with him. He funded a prize called, it was a Global Literacy X Prize, is what we called it. And we had the winners. You had to build a piece of software that could teach a child reading, writing, arithmetic on their own. And we're giving away the final prize and he's backstage with me and just super agitated. And I'm like, what up? He's like, Tesla is losing, you know, like a hundred, you know.

• 1:17:33Peter Diamandis?

  Forget what it was, five hundred million dollars this month and and I need and it's like we gotta turn this around and and there's a SpaceX launch for the first star uh uh for the first uh Starlink satellite and we're not sure if the coupling on the on the satellites and the frequency of the launch is gonna cause it to like you know uh blow up on or and he was just like just super and he has his five kids there and and three and three assistants and it's like the level of stress, right? So you know when he said publicly a few times, you wouldn't want my life. Right. And you know, I believe that I believe that to be true.

• 1:18:18Peter Diamandis?

  He's driven. He's physically, he's mentally driven. Why do you think he doesn't, he's not excited about longevity as much as you are or Tony is or? I had this conversation with him about about like you know when I was doing my earliest work in longevity, uh you know, some years back and he's like, I don't think people should live, uh you know, forever or or past, you know, eighty or a hundred. And I was like, he goes, because I think people need to die to make room for new ideas. And I was like, maybe it'll change your mind when you're in your sixties or seventies. But I don't think that's true. I think a meritocracy, I think best ideas can can raise to the top.

• 1:18:59Peter Diamandis?

  And I think that that society can adopt new ideas and disrupt the General Motors of the world or the Lockheed Martins of the world. I don't think it needs to necessarily um be about those leaders, those companies, you know, moving on to the next life, afterlife. Sure, sure. So it'll be interesting.

• 1:19:26Lewis Howes?

  What advice would you give to him? If you could give him one piece of advice?

• 1:19:30Peter Diamandis?

  He knows all the advice he needs of just focusing and slowing down.

• 1:19:34Lewis Howes?

  What advice do you have to someone who is gaining power? You know, maybe it's someone who's now got 100,000 followers when they didn't a year ago, or millions of followers, or they're in the top 20 most powerful people in the world of your peers. What advice do you give to people with power?

• 1:19:51Peter Diamandis?

  You know, I think it's, again, what's your purpose? It really comes down, the one thing that, I will go back to Elon, the thing that's guiding for him is that he will spend every penny he's got to make, get the human race onto Mars. Right? And it's like, I'm clear about that. No question whatsoever. He's not gonna take SpaceX public because he doesn't want shareholders telling him what he can and cannot do with his rockets. So if you're seeking power, I think it's empty unless it's in service of something. So what's your fundamental objective? You know, is it creating, feeding everybody healthcare, energy, clean water? What are you gonna use your power for?

• 1:20:35Peter Diamandis?

  Getting power for the sake of power is empty and meaningless and, yeah, just, I think it makes for a very empty life.

• 1:20:41Lewis Howes?

  I mean, how have you personally dealt with like, okay, more wealth, more access, more power? How do you keep your mindset abundant, moonshot, exponential, but not egotistical, overpowering, me, me, me, you know, and hurting others? How do you keep it in service to the mission and not to yourself?

• 1:21:01Peter Diamandis?

  I think, well, listen, my, my MTP, my massive transformative purpose, just to state it for the record here, is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs to create a hopeful, compelling, and abundant future for humanity. So the stuff that I do, you know, X Prize. Bunden 360, it's in service. How do I inspire? How do I, how do I help people find their purpose and their passion? What are the biggest problems we're gonna take on? Now, there's beautiful alignment. I like to say that the world's biggest problems are the world's biggest business opportunities. Right. We wanna become a billionaire, help a billion people. There's nothing wealth, you know, nothing wrong with, with, you know, creating wealth and going big,

• 1:21:45Peter Diamandis?

  but let's have it be in service of making the world a better place. And so, I back the things that I think are making the world a better place, whether it's the venture fund, or myself as an advisor. And I donate to things like the X Prize, First Robotics, Dean Kamen's incredible program, St. Jude's, you know, those are my three big areas. And, you know, donating money is part of it, but it's donating your mind and your capabilities along with your capital that matters. Yeah. Who's the most inspiring hero that you've never met? That's either alive now or from history?

• 1:22:25Peter Diamandis?

  I, I have been eating up some of the founding stories of America, right? So the founding fathers, for me, would have been an extraordinary group. I mean, the idea of starting a country fascinates me. It's crazy. Right? And so, you know, we're gonna get a shot at that as we head to the moon and Mars and such. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, that's incredible. We're gonna create, we're gonna create new societal structures in the web three and the virtual world. And we'll have citizenship, American citizen, and a virtual citizen in these countries. But the real opportunity is when we start writing the legal code and the structure for, for off-world living. That's nuts. Yeah, but it's happening now.

• 1:23:10Peter Diamandis?

  It's, it's, you know, whatever we evolve into a thousand years from now, it's these next few decades. That we're going to look back in history and say it was the time that the human race moved off the planet irreversibly. So it's a magical time.

• 1:23:25Lewis Howes?

  What if you could ask one question of the founding fathers and if you could also just share with them one thing that's happened since then that you'd get to share with them?

• 1:23:35Peter Diamandis?

  I'm fascinated by their wisdom. I mean, did they really understand the implications of what they were doing? And then I would have told them about where communications are going. You know, we have a representative democracy, not an actual democracy, because we never had the ability to ask people and get the world to vote, or America to vote. And I would have probably said, you need to create some mechanism by which laws are sunsetted because the world of change is coming so fast. And we have all these laws in the books that were, might have been logical at the time, but are, it's too hard.

• 1:24:12Lewis Howes?

  Yes, evolving. It's inspired stuff. I always love getting to have conversations with you. I want people to follow your mindset bootcamp. If they go to your website.

• 1:24:23Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, diamandis.com/mindset.

• 1:24:26Lewis Howes?

  It's a newsletter, 30 day newsletter, which teaches you this kind of bootcamp.

• 1:24:30Peter Diamandis?

  Basically, it's free. It's just I'm trying to get as many people to like, light up and see the world in a different way. You can't unsee it.

• 1:24:39Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 1:24:39Peter Diamandis?

  And then, you know, just at Peter Diamandis on Twitter and Instagram.

• 1:24:45Lewis Howes?

  And the book.

• 1:24:46Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, the book, Life Force.

• 1:24:48Lewis Howes?

  Powerful book.

• 1:24:48Peter Diamandis?

  It's, yeah, it's.

• 1:24:49Lewis Howes?

  Game changer.

• 1:24:50Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, it has the potential to add significant years on your life. And if you want to replace CNN with some constructive news, you can go to futureloop.com and longevityinsider.org. And there is a free as well. And it's just my way of showing people where the world is and where it's going because it's pretty extraordinary.

• 1:25:16Lewis Howes?

  Futureloop.com, yeah. I asked you this question last time. I'm not sure if you remember. We'll see if the answers are the same or different. It's called the three truths.

• 1:25:24Peter Diamandis?

  Okay.

• 1:25:25Lewis Howes?

  So imagine you're, you live 200, 300, 500 years, as long as you want, but eventually you gotta turn the lights off. And leave your body and this planet and the next planets or wherever you pass away. And for whatever reason, everything you've created has to go with you or goes to another planet. And no one has access to it, right? It's lost in outer space. But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world, three things you know to be true from your experiences here. And this is all we would have to remember you by, your wisdom by. What would those three truths be?

• 1:25:56Peter Diamandis?

  Love is the most powerful force in the universe. Just a fundamental glue. Find your purpose in life and live your purpose in life. That is the most important thing. And just ultimately be a good person. What did I say last time?

• 1:26:14Lewis Howes?

  Well, if people want to hear that, they'll have to go to the previous interview and check it out. Because one of the three were the same. So if they want to know the other two, go check that out. I'll tell you afterwards. Before I ask the final question, Peter, I want to acknowledge you for your audacity to continue to dream so big. I just feel like we need more models like you, people that think in a certain way, people that act and take big actions towards things to serve humanity in a better way. So I'm really inspired by your mission. I'm really inspired by your level of service.

• 1:26:48Peter Diamandis?

  Thank you.

• 1:26:48Lewis Howes?

  And I'm excited to try some of these things out. The, I think it was the Fountain, Fountainlife.com.

• 1:26:53Peter Diamandis?

  Fountainlife, yes.

• 1:26:54Lewis Howes?

  I want to improve, continue to improve my life. So I'm just inspired. It's really cool what you've created as a model for so many people in the world, entrepreneurs like myself. So I appreciate your mission and the model you've created. Final question for you, what's your definition of greatness?

• 1:27:12Peter Diamandis?

  Knowing that you have done all that you can and that you're operating at your highest level. It's like, I think that for me is, because being as great as you can. At the end of the day, if I know I have given, I've left nothing on the field, that's it.

• 1:27:34Lewis Howes?

  There you go, Peter. Thank you so much, man. Appreciate it.

• 1:27:36Peter Diamandis?

  A pleasure, pal.

• 1:27:36Lewis Howes?

  Appreciate it, man.

• 1:27:37Peter Diamandis?

  Thank you.

• 1:27:38Lewis Howes?

  Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's show with all the important links. And also make sure to share this with a friend and subscribe over on Apple Podcasts as well. I really love hearing feedback from you guys, so share a review over on Apple and let me know what part of this episode resonated with you the most. And if no one's told you lately, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.