He Pretended To Be A LORD, Stole Millions & Now He’s Missing After Escaping Prison?!

20-year-old Megan Clarke thought she had found her fairytale romance when she fell for a charming aristocrat calling himself “Lord Bertie Underwood.” Their whirlwind relationship quickly escalated, with luxury gifts, a lavish home, and even a proposal. But just weeks before their wedding, Megan began noticing strange inconsistencies in the life they had built together... Megan's Instagram:lifeofmeg_c https://www.instagram.com/lifeofmeg_c/ Podcast w/ Megan:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbMWtPgPJbU&t=320s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbMWtPgPJbU&t=320s Janelle's Instagram:janelle_fields_ https://www.instagram.com/janelle_fields_/ This episode is sponsored by: Grow Therapy: whatever challenges you’re facing, Grow Therapy is here to help. Visit GrowTherapy.com/ http://growtherapy.com/SHOWKENDALLRAE today to get started Fabletics: shop now at fabletics.com/TCKR http://fabletics.com/TCKR to get 70- 80% off everything when you sign up as a new VIP Merit Beauty: right now, Merit Beauty is offering our listeners their Signature Makeup Bag with your first order at meritbeauty.com http://meritbeauty.com Rocket Money: let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Try for $0 at RocketMoney.com/KENDALLRAE http://RocketMoney.com/KENDALLRAE Square: Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at square.com/go/ http://square.com/go/ tckr! #squarepod Check out my foundation: Higher Hope Foundation: https://www.higherhope.org/ Watch my documentaries: 530 Days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjUWkmOjNLk Apartment 801: https://bit.ly/2RJ9XXr True Crime with Kendall Rae podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3rks84o Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jC66pr Shop my Merch! https://kendallrae.shop https://kendallrae.shop/ Check out my other podcasts: Mile Higher (True Crime) @milehigherpod YouTube: https://bit.ly/2ROzJcw Instagram: http://instagram.com/milehigherpod The Sesh (Current events, a little true crime, pop culture, and commentary) https://bit.ly/3Mtoz4X @the_seshpodcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/3a9t6Xr *Follow My Social!* @KendallRaeOnyt Instagram: http://instagram.com/kendallraeonyt Facebook: https://bit.ly/3kar4NK True Crime TikTok: https://bit.ly/3VDbc77 Personal TikTok: https://bit.ly/41hmRKg REQUESTS: General case suggestion form: https://zfrmz.com/yg9cuiWjUe2QY3hSC2V0 Form for people directly related/close to the victim: https://zfrmz.com/HGu2hZso42aHxARt1i67 Join my discord to chat with other viewers about this video, it’s free! https://discord.com/invite/an4stY9BCN C O N T A C T: For Business Inquiries - [email protected] Send me mail: Kendall Rae 8547 E Arapahoe Rd Ste J #233 Greenwood Village, CO 80112

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• 0:00Kendall Rae?

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• 1:40Speaker 02

  Hi, guys, and welcome back to True Crime with Kendall Rae. Newsflash: I'm not Kendall Rae. If you couldn't already tell, or maybe you're listening to this and you think that we perhaps sound alike, but it is I, her cousin Janelle. And I am so excited to be recording this video today, you guys. I have been wanting to do a TCKR video for a long time but have never gotten the chance. And as we all know, lovely Kendall is on maternity leave right now, enjoying her new baby boy. And she invited me to come on the channel and record a video for you guys today, which, again, I'm so excited for. A little bit nervous because there's some big shoes to fill here, obviously. But nonetheless, I'm super excited for today's episode.

• 2:25Speaker 02

  Side note, I'm getting over a cold, which is just perfect timing. So if I sound a little nasally, I am sorry. But I'm going to do my best to sound the least annoying that I can. Now, if you don't know who I am, like I said, I am Kendall's cousin. I work with her and we're besties as well outside of work. But I also co-host a show called The Sesh with her. And it is a very, it is basically the opposite of a true crime show, if you will. It's just very relaxed. It's kind of shoot the shit. We talk about pop culture and current events. We play games. We talk about our feelings sometimes. We kind of just do whatever we want on that show.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  And so if you ever are, you know, interested in checking it out, there's always a link below. I'm sure that there's a little bit of overlap, but obviously this channel is much bigger than the audience over on The Sesh. And so I think for the most part, you guys don't know who I am, but I wanted to go ahead and give myself a little bit of an introduction. So you aren't just like, who is this complete rando on your screen? But I appreciate everyone who is tuning in today despite Kendall being gone. She's actually going to make back sooner than you think. Her maternity leave is flying by and I'm really excited to have her back because I've missed working with her. So stay tuned. There's not much longer until she's back on the show and on your screens.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  So for today's episode, I have one of truly the craziest fraud stories I have ever come across. I know that Kendall has done many fraud stories on her channel in the past, but oh my God, this one is actually insane, you guys. Like, I can't even explain to you. Just when you think this story couldn't get any crazier, we peel back an entire new layer of crazy. Okay? It is truly one of the most wild cases. And I know that Kendall would have loved to talk about this case with you guys today, but I just could not pass up the opportunity when I came across it because it is truly so, so wild. So like I said, it is a fraud story. However, there's also a element of awareness that needs to be raised as well, that I think

• 4:31Speaker 02

  is really important that we discuss. So we're going to go ahead and do that too. And that is because this dude that we are about to talk about today, this Pillsbury dough boy looking ass mother-

• 4:42Speaker 02

  Effor. I don't know if I can say how many times I'm allowed to say that word on this channel. Usually I just let it rip on the sesh, but I'm trying to be a little bit more professional on the TC Kara channel. Regardless, he escaped from prison and is still on the run. Yeah. It's truly one of the craziest stories. I think we just need to go ahead and jump right into it. And let's start off by giving you a little bit of background and setting this scene here. So it was 2017 in the Isle of Wight, which is an island off the south coast of England. And from the photos I've seen, this place looks insanely gorgeous. You guys, I've never been to England, but oh my God, it looks so beautiful. They have these really gorgeous beaches and these massive cliff sides. It's the kind of place that you would be very lucky to live in. And if any of

• 5:27Speaker 02

  you live in the Isle of Wight, please comment down below because I'm curious how it is down there. It just looks so beautiful. Definitely a place that I would like to visit one day. Ever 20 year old Megan Clark, she would have considered herself one of the lucky ones who got to live there. So like I said, today's story starts in 2017. And as far as I can tell, Meghan was living her best life. She was thriving. She had a great group of girlfriends that she was always hanging out with. She had a good dating life and she had a job that she really, really loved. So at the time Meghan was managing a restaurant and I guess there was this couple that would come and visit the area quite frequently and they actually ended up purchasing a bar in the area. And after they purchased this bar, they ended up asking Meghan if she wanted to go ahead and manage it

• 6:10Speaker 02

  for them. And she was like, yeah, absolutely. That's super cool. The bar seemed like a really vibey, kind of like cocktail bar. And from all accounts, she absolutely loved her job. This bar was really like her baby and she spent a ton of time working there. If she wasn't there, she would, you know, be out with her friends who by the way, have only said amazing things about her. According to her friend Georgie, Meghan is a genuinely kind human being. And from what I gathered, she was as well. I mean, I have watched a couple of interviews with her. She was on a podcast, um, which I can link below. And she just seems like a really, really cool, down to earth person. Her friend Georgie says that she is like a friend, sister and therapist all in one. And not to mention she is a Total catch, absolutely gorgeous.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  And her friends also describe her as a serial dater, which I love that. You know what? More power to you, girl. And at the time, Meghan was kind of just dating around, exploring her options. But she was open to a more serious relationship if the right person were to come along. She said that she didn't really necessarily have a type, but she does look for guys with nice smiles and eyes, as well as someone who can make her laugh. And one day while she's working at this bar, a dude walks in and immediately grabs her attention. She said that he was tall, really well dressed, and wasn't the typical type of person that you would see in that area. So naturally, he stood out to her. And I think that she stood out to him as well, because he immediately went and approached her, and the two of them hit it off right away.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  And he told her his name was Robert Underwood, but she could call him Birdie. And based on her first impression of him, she felt like he was a polite and well-mannered person. He told her that he had just moved to the area from the mainland after winning an auction on this big, beautiful house on the water. And he also told her that he worked as a horologist, which for anyone like me who has absolutely no idea what that is, it's someone who designs and repairs watches and clocks. And it was all very impressive sounding, and something about him just piqued Meghan's interest. And so it wasn't that much longer until he made the first move. And shortly after meeting for the first time, he sent this big bouquet of flowers to the bar with a note that read something along the lines of, "It was lovely to meet you. Be ready for 7:00 PM tonight. I'm taking you on a date."

• 8:19Speaker 02

  And Meghan said that this literally felt like a romantic gesture out of a movie. And honestly, I couldn't tell you one person that wouldn't be just as excited to get a big, beautiful bouquet of flowers and a note being like, "Hey, I'm picking you up." Like, ah, there is something so satisfying and romantic out of a man making plans, instead of just being like, "I don't know, what do you want to do?" Especially in a world where dating apps can be so scary and unpredictable. I mean, I myself don't have really any experience on a dating app. However, I have many friends who are on dating apps, and the stories that they tell are just so bad. Like, it just seems so...

• 9:00Speaker 02

  The bar is so low out there, I'll just say that. But anyway, so Bertie comes, picks her up at 7 o'clock like he said he would. And apparently this first date was very, very lavish. They went to this place called The Royal for dinner. And Meghan says that it was by far the nicest first date she had ever been on. And there was this attraction between them right away. And then after dinner, he invited her back to his place for a cup of tea. And it sounds like she was blown away by the house that he lived in. And apparently he told her all these stories about how he transformed the place through all these renovations and how he sourced only the finest materials and art for it. It really does sound so beautiful. And according to her, it was one of the most extravagant places that she had ever been to. But you're probably thinking to yourself, okay, Bertie is 28 years old.

• 9:43Speaker 02

  How is he acquiring all the money in order to get all these lavish, beautiful things in his beautiful house? Sending her flowers, taking her on dates? Where is the income coming from? Well, according to Bertie, get ready for this. It was because he was a lord. And I literally had to look this shit up because I needed to know exactly what he was claiming to be. And this is what I found online. "Lord in the British Isle, a general title for a prince or sovereign, or for a feudal superior, especially a feudal tenant who holds directly from the king, i.e. a baron. In the United Kingdom, the title today denotes a peer of the realm, whether or not he sits in Parliament as a member of the House of Lords." So yeah, he tells Meghan that he's a lord.

• 10:27Speaker 02

  And he explains that the title was passed down from his great grandfather, who he claimed was the inventor of the Underwood typewriter, hence the name Robert Underwood. And honestly, the details of his story are a little wonky to me. And even Meghan has described how it's really confusing to her. And she says that she didn't really understand where it all came from, but that she didn't really care. And so she didn't ask him any more questions. What's our kind of love? She's like, alright dude, whatever you say, you're a lord. Okay, great. Because honestly, she was just happy to be dating someone who seemed like a nice guy and that who actually took a genuine interest in her and was treating her right. And after that first night, the two were practically inseparable. And this dude charmed her every which way that he could, including taking her on vacations and buying her fancy gifts. Bertie would tell her that he was going on these,

• 11:12Speaker 02

  quote, "business trips" pretty often. And when he would come back from those trips, he'd almost always have a bag or jewelry or some type of gift for her. The dude even bought her a car. And if he wasn't such a lying sack of dog shit, I'd say Meghan was living the dream, but that was definitely not the case. Because poor Meghan was actually being duped the entire time, and her family was too.

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• 12:26Kendall Rae?

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• 13:20Speaker 02

  Her mom, Carisha, which I hope I'm saying that right, said that he got really close with them as well. And she was just so happy that her daughter had found someone who was treating her so well and the way that she really deserved to be treated. And I think because of the fact that he was treating her so well and things seemed to be going so smoothly, it was easy to overlook how fast things were moving. Because just after a few weeks into dating, he told her that he loved her over dinner. And pretty soon after that, he'd ask her to move in with him. And she had actually never lived with a partner before, but I can see how in the excitement of it all, that she was just excited to say yes and continue on this journey that she had started with him. So the two of them move in together, and I'm sure you can guess what happens next. It would be a proposal. That's right, y'all.

• 14:03Speaker 02

  Four months into their relationship, he popped the question, and he did it on Christmas Day with a ring from Cartier. And I think obviously hindsight is 2020 here. I mean, getting engaged after only four months of dating is, is very fast. And that's not to say that quick engagements can't always work out. I mean, I know people in my life who were dating only for a couple of months or even a couple of weeks before they got engaged and it worked out for them. But, I mean, yeah, it's no lie that four months is definitely quick. But in defense of Meghan, she was being really love bombed by this guy, or honestly, like love nuked from this dude. And she really felt like she had found the one, someone who was gonna treat her the right way. And she was just so excited to start her life with him. And he even got her this little Chihuahua puppy that they named Schubert for when he

• 14:47Speaker 02

  was away on work trips, that she wouldn't be alone. And I don't know about you guys, but someone getting me a dog is absolutely the way to my heart. So I can't blame her for falling head over heels for this guy. Because everything was such, you know, big, grand gestures with Bertie. And their wedding was going to be no exception. Meghan says that he was shelling out the big bucks for their wedding that he wanted to have at the Osborne House, which was the formal royal summer residence of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert. So you can imagine how fancy and expensive this wedding was going to be. I mean, this shit literally looks like it's out of a fairy tale. It's absolutely Gorgeous. If you're watching right now, you'll see pictures. It is so, so stunning.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  Oh, and get this. Meghan was told that she was going to be gaining a title once they tied the knot. And according to Google, that would make her a lady. Lady Underwood, I think. And just to be clear, this was not what she was after. I mean, like I said, I listened to a podcast that she was on and you can just tell that this is not that important to her, this type of stuff. She was just really in love with him and loved him for him, not because he was a lord. And so she was just excited to be with him, regardless of the title. What was most important to her was just marrying someone that she loved or thought she loved, who treated her better than she had ever been treated before. But here's the thing, though. Once Meghan was truly under his spell,

• 16:11Speaker 02

  he started to display textbook signs of abuse, specifically emotional abuse. And the big one being isolation. First off, he convinced Meghan to leave her job at the bar, which like I said, she loved this job. This job is like her baby. But he convinced her to leave the job and go work for him at his watch business. Because she explained that he didn't like how much time she was spending at the bar and that random guys could talk to her there. So it would just, you know, be better for the both of them if she worked for him. Clearly, this guy's got major jealousy issues, which will become very ironic here shortly. But yeah, Meghan agreed to quit working at the bar and she started running the social media and email marketing for his company.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  Which, by the way, this company was absolute bogus. From my understanding, he was basically purchasing old, broken Rolex's, fixing them and then reselling them. And I genuinely have no idea if these Rolex's were even real or how he was obtaining them. But unbeknownst to Meghan, he was actually ripping people off on eBay. So I'm pretty sure he would just post the pictures of these watches on eBay. And then when someone would purchase them, he would never end up actually shipping them out. And I'm pretty sure there was also a lot of counterfeit stuff, uh, just based on the rest of the details in this story. It doesn't seem like the dude really had a plethora of legitimate Rolex or other high design brands of watches. But anyways,

• 17:36Speaker 02

  Back to the emotional abuse that Meghan was enduring during this time. Another thing Birdie would do, or I guess wouldn't do, is he wouldn't let Meghan post him on her social media. And it wasn't just the fact that he wouldn't let her post him on social media. It was also the fact that anytime she asked him why she wasn't allowed to post him, that he would freak the fuck out. And I'm not trying to put any blame on her for not seeing this as a red flag, but this is a red flag. Because I just feel like if someone is not allowing you to post them on social media, chances are there's a reason for it. And it's probably because they're doing something shady behind closed doors. I mean, not always. I'm sure there's different scenarios and reasons as to why someone wouldn't want to have a social media presence.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  But I think generally speaking, it's definitely a little bit sus that he didn't want her posting him at all online. And same with the isolation stuff. You know, I know that Kendall talks about this type of stuff on her channel a lot. But if I could just back her up for a second, isolation is a form of control in an abusive relationship. And it doesn't always have to start out super extreme either. And Meghan's case has started with having her quit her job, which, you know, he convinced her was the right thing to do. And then eventually she got to the point where she was hanging out with her friends less and less. And he was just slowly gaining more and more control over her life. And her friends were worried about her and worried about how fast things were moving with Birdie. But for at least a little while longer, Meghan was still positive that he was her person.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  That is until about two months out from their wedding. And I'm not 100% sure of the exact date of their wedding. I'm pretty sure it was sometime in 2018. And this is when Meghan's spidey senses were tingling. So basically, the entire time that the two of them were living together, Birdie was getting a ton of mail, like way more than a normal household would get. And every time Meghan would bring it up or ask him about it, he had really no way of explaining what all this mail was or where it was all coming from. And because of that, she decided to do some investigating, a little snooping around, if you will. And we love to see it, okay? Sometimes you gotta take matters into your own hands. So she ends up going through his desk.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  And that's when she finds several different bank cards under several different names. And none of these names she knew him by. And right off the bat, this is absolutely terrifying. She's shocked and she's scared and confused. And she's also pissed, which I don't blame her for. And in that moment, everything just kind of clicked that Bertie wasn't who he said he was. And to top it off, he was super defensive and angry with her when she tried to ask him about it. But clearly something is up. This is a very sketchy situation and alarm bells are going off. So she decides that she's going to go ahead and stay with her mom while she continues to try and figure out what the hell is going on. And that's when the two of them learned the terrifying truth. After Googling some of the names that she had seen on those bank cards,

• 20:31Speaker 02

  Megan learned that Robert was actually a convicted con man. There were several news articles about how dangerous he was and how he'd conned people out of thousands and thousands of dollars. Or I guess pounds in this case, but regardless, tons and tons of money. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, okay? And pretty soon after finding all this out, Megan began looking through more mail that the two of them had been receiving. And this is when she found out, you guys, that this dude had taken out several credit cards and loans in her name. Between credit cards, business accounts and other bills he'd put in her name, Megan realized he put her in about 30,000 pounds worth of debt, which was roughly, you know, between 38 and 40,000 US dollars.

• 21:16Speaker 02

  And you want to hear something so fucked up, you guys? When I heard this, I seriously couldn't believe it. She, when she finds this out, she goes to the police and the police are basically like, "Sorry, there's nothing we can really do about this because this fraud was more of a domestic issue." And she was pretty much on her own, is what they told her. In fact, she ended up having to pay off this debt entirely by herself. So being the smart woman that she is, she decided that she would go ahead and try and sell her engagement ring, thinking that she could recoup a significant amount of money by doing that. But come to find out, that thing was a total fake and worth absolutely nothing. So Megan decides that she's going to go confront this fucker. But as soon as she tries to do that, she figures out that he actually bailed and left the island.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  But not before he made one last attempt to trick her. According to Megan, he tried to convince her that he never meant to do this to her and that it was never supposed to go that far. Ah, such a sob story. Poor little birdie. He really, uh, didn't see this one coming. But luckily at this point, Meghan was like, alright, I'm not falling for this dude's shit any longer. I clearly have to do something. And unfortunately, the police didn't seem like they were gonna go ahead and do anything. So her and her mom took matters into their own hands. And they started by posting on Facebook a bunch of pictures of him along with the story of everything that he had done and everything that Meghan had been through. And the goal was to try and get as many eyes on this story as possible so that he couldn't victimize any more people.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  And it's a good thing that she went ahead and posted on that because holy shit, you guys, the response was insane. Pretty soon after putting it up, the post started getting hundreds and then thousands of shares. And not long after that, her inbox was flooded with messages that only made her realize how much more messed up the whole situation really was. And you guys, I don't think you're ready for what is coming next. This story truly gets so much more insane. So once she posted that on Facebook, she starts to get other messages from men claiming to be Robert's boyfriend. Both from men who claimed that they had dated him in the past and who also claimed that they were currently dating him.

• 23:23Speaker 02

  And there was a common theme from all these men, and that was that Robert was stealing from them. He basically pulled the same bullshit about being a lord to every single one of them and somehow convinced these people to fall for him, all while he was manipulating and stealing from them. And I believe that most of the men that he had matched with were on Grindr. And if you remember those business trips that he talked about going on in the past, well, yeah, he actually wasn't doing any sort of business. Well, maybe he was getting down to business, if you catch my drift, but he was not on a work trip. He was cheating on Meghan that entire time. Sometimes he even had these men come to their house when she wasn't there to sleep with them in her bed.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  And to top it all off, one of the guys who reached out to Meghan was someone that she already knew. So there was this guy named Alex that she had actually been introduced to through Robert. And she was under the impression that he was actually the Artist that was creating a illustrated book about Robert's life. And this was somewhat true. Alex was an artist who agreed to make an illustrated book about Robert's story. But he was also a lot more than that. The exact timeline is a little unclear, but sometime as Meghan and Robert's relationship was unfolding, he and Alex met online via a Craigslist ad. Alex was living in Korea at the time and he had this art studio on top of a mountain. And I guess it gets pretty lonely up there. So one day he decided to put out a men seeking men ad on Craigslist.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  And it was sort of just a laundry list of his perfect guy. And Alex really wasn't expecting a whole lot to come of this, but about a month after he posted the ad, he got a message from, you guessed it, our little lord. And Robert's message to Alex reads, quote, "Hi there. I have seen your advert on Craigslist. I went on there to see if I could find someone to do the ironing, then saw the men seeking men section. I know your post is a month old now, but hopefully you're still looking for something. I do not live in Brighton, but I'm in St. Leonards near Hastings. I'm 28-2 and I'm a watchmaker. Do not meet the requirements of having an interesting job. I'm reasonable looking and like to enjoy myself. My friends say I'm the only gay, watchmaking, rugby-playing pianist they know.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  Which to be fair, I am probably the only one of those in the country." And from that point forward, they began talking on the phone, like all the time. And Alex remembers that they could really talk about anything and everything. And Alex was apparently super fascinated by Robert because he had these absolutely insane stories. For example, one time he made a comment to Robert about the fact that he looked a lot younger than he was claiming to be. And Robert gave him this whole story about how one time he was with his ex-boyfriend who tried to kill him. And therefore he had to get his face reconstructed and that's why he looked the way that he did. All of his stories were super dark and mysterious and Alex says that it all really intrigued him. But when the time came for the two of them to officially meet up,

• 26:21Speaker 02

  which was about a month after they first started texting, he wasn't so sure he wanted anything romantic with Robert. Alex told him that he just wanted to meet up as friends. Friends, which Robert said that he was fine with. So they ended up meeting at a pub and that's when he divulged his whole spiel of I'm a very rich and important person. And while they were at the pub, Robert went and pointed out a Bentley that was parked on the street and he told Alex that it was his car. Which then segued into him explaining that he was an Earl. Then, over the course of that evening, he talked about how he had a bodyguard and his own personal driver and a whole bunch of other things to make him seem more impressive than he really was. And over the course of their friendship, or whatever it was, Robert started dropping

• 27:04Speaker 02

  hints that he wanted Alex to make art for him. And that is where Meghan comes back into the picture.

• 27:17Kendall Rae?

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• 28:56Speaker 02

  Now, get this. Robert tells Alex that he met this girl, who he described as a diamond in the rough. And he said that he bought a mansion for them to live in on the Isle of Wight that he wanted this artwork for. While then, throughout his and Meghan's relationship, Alex just sort of became this person who Robert was always on the phone with. And according to Meghan, Alex was even on the wedding invite list, which he later said Robert never even mentioned that they were engaged. And what's crazy is that Robert would use his phone to make his lies more believable. And one of the biggest examples of that is that he was always on the phone with his daddy. And I don't know if he was on speakerphone or what, but however it was, it would always be loud enough for other people to hear their conversation.

• 29:38Speaker 02

  And they would talk about his duties and whatnot as an Earl. So when people like Meghan and Alex would hear these phone conversations, they totally believed that that's exactly what he was doing. Because Robert basically had this other human corroborating his story. And I was super curious to try and figure out, like, who was this other person on the phone that Robert was claiming was his daddy? And from what I've gathered, Meghan thinks it may have been this guy with an intellectual disability that Robert was also manipulating, which if that's the case, he's just such, such a piece of shit, more than he already is. And she doesn't know if he was paying him to say all these things or what, but clearly, this was another one of his victims in one way or another. And I know you guys are probably curious,

• 30:22Speaker 02

  but she said she never met anyone in his family. The only people in his circle that she met were some of his friends. And there was this one guy in particular, who she said that she met on several occasions, and he would stay at their house quite a bit. And what's insane is that Robert and this dude would tell Meghan all these different stories about how they grew up together, how they went to school together. However, that was not the case at all. And Meghan later found out that this guy was actually someone that Robert had only known for a few years. And I genuinely have no idea how he got this guy to get wrapped up into his lies, etc. But isn't that fucking crazy? And it's also a great example of just how much he used and manipulated other people, brought them into his web of bullshit lies in order- To make his story sound more believable.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  And for Alex, it came to light when Robert started asking him to do something he wasn't comfortable with. Specifically, he'd asked him to doctor some bank statements and passports. And when Alex said no to that, Robert became super weird and distant, and then eventually he just ghosted him. And listen, it was probably best case scenario for Alex to be ghosted by Robert so that he couldn't be victimized by Robert any longer. And he could get out of his weird creepy spell of lies and bullshit. But as it does, human curiosity really did get the best of him. And he was so curious as to why Robert essentially just ghosted him one day. So he ended up reaching out to one of his friends who's a police officer that Robert also mentioned that he knew as well.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  I wouldn't say it was necessarily a mutual friend, but it was someone that Alex had told Robert that he had also met. And when Alex reached out to this police officer, he told him, dude, you need to stay far, far away from Robert. And that's how he first learned that he was not who he said he was and that he'd already been to prison for stealing money. Robert truly had been doing this for years and Megan and Alex really only represent a small portion of the people he lied to and stole from. And it wasn't just people that he stole from, it was also institutions. I don't know if you guys are familiar with the department store called Harrods, but I guess when he was like 18 or 19 years old, he somehow managed to steal half a million pounds from them.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  From what I gathered, it sounds like he was forging bank statements and then writing faulty checks for these big purchases. And he even did that when purchasing cars. And for whatever reason, Bentleys were really his thing. And in 2012, he wrote a bad check when purchasing one, although that time he got caught pretty quickly. But I will say people rather than businesses were his biggest targets. In fact, in 2016, a year before meeting Megan, Robert was actually doing this to a guy named Mike. The two of them met on Grindr and started hanging out and whatnot, and he heard all the same stories I've already told you. The difference with his story, though, is Robert tricked Mike into giving him his passport and eBay login, which he then used to further scam people out of thousands of dollars. Luckily, what he told Mike was this story about how he had this trip planned to go to Italy,

• 33:16Speaker 02

  but then his friend ended up bailing, and so he had this extra ticket. And he asked him if he would want to go with him. Robert said that everything was already paid for, and really, all he had to do was get a photocopy of his passport so that he could then transfer the ticket to Mike. And Mike at the time had no idea who Robert really was, and he was like, "Yeah, that sounds great." So he went ahead and sent him a photo of his passport, not really thinking twice about it. Well, apparently, Robert then told Mike that he needed a big favor from him. He said that he had been frozen out of his eBay account and needed help selling this one Rolex. So he wanted to know if Mike would sell it for him, which Mike ended up agreeing to do. But fast forward a month, Mike started getting all these messages from people asking where their watch was,

• 33:59Speaker 02

  only for him to realize that there was never actually a watch at all. So Robert was pretending to sell these watches to people, and then, once he got their money, he ended up just ghosting them and never sent them their watches. And he was doing all of this through Mike's eBay account. And I guess Robert needed the passport to verify his account or something. But yeah, essentially, he was scamming people under Mike's name. And what's really weird is that, once Mike figured all of this out, he ended up confronting Robert, and Robert was basically like, "No, no, no, dude. This is just a big misunderstanding. Like, it's all good. I'm gonna get this all figured out. You don't have to worry about it." But he ended up just ghosting Mike instead. And the next time that Mike was really thrown into the orbit of all of this was when he saw that Facebook post that Meghan and her mom had created. And that's when he went to the police,

• 34:44Speaker 02

  and luckily, this time, the police decided to actually take him seriously. Once he realized the scale of this all, Mike contacted the Hastings Police Station, who launched an investigation into all the claims made against Robert. And they determined that several crimes had been committed. The evidence was then brought to a jury, and they determined that he should serve five years for his crimes. The thing is, though, nobody knew where he was. It actually wasn't until a year and a half later that he was finally arrested. And by this point, Meghan was finally starting to heal from all of this. And that's when she got a message on Facebook that he'd finally been caught. Which at first, this was definitely a big sigh of relief for her.

• 35:26Speaker 02

  But then, only about two years into his sentence, all hell broke loose when Robert, whatever the hell his last name actually is, ended up escaping from prison. He was in what they call an open prison, which is for low-risk inmates at low-security facilities. And it essentially means that prisoners have freedom in the day to work or go to school, but they have to return to prison at night. And yeah, Robert somehow managed to get his monitoring device off, and he was gone like the wind. But it gets worse, folks, because guess what? They still haven't found him to this day. But it's not like he's gone into complete hiding. According to Meghan, he's still out here conning people. I literally can't make this shit up.

• 36:11Speaker 02

  The dude goes to prison, escapes from prison, and then continues to con people to this day. So she took part in this documentary, which is how I found this case. And she's since said that after the documentary came out, a guy reached out to her, saying that he knew who Robert was. Only that he knew him as a man named Leo Fitzland Howard. And it's basically the same story over and over again. The only difference is that he's living in an RV, and he's telling people that the reason he's living in an RV right now is because his mansion is getting renovated, yada, yada. Sound familiar? It's the same thing over and over again. Oh, and remember that beautiful house that he took Meghan to to have a cup of tea after their date? Well, it turns out, he didn't own this house. He was actually renting it.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  This dude is the biggest fucking loser I have ever heard of. He's also apparently been known to drive a red Ferrari, which he's been asking to park at different people's houses. And I'm guessing because he either stole it or paid for it with a faulty check. I don't really know the reason for it. And honestly, you guys, there are so many other side quests that this dude has done, and so many other stories, but these are really the main ones that have hit the And not all of his victims have come forward publicly, which I completely respect. And at first, Meghan was actually really hesitant to do the documentary, but she decided that she was going to go ahead and participate because she wanted to help spread the word and hopefully, you know, make sure that no one else is being scammed. And hearing this is really one of the reasons that I wanted to cover this in the first place.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  Aside from just being able to poke fun at this complete fucking loser. I also feel like it's really important that his face is plastered all over the internet until he's found, because for all we know, he could be scamming tons of other people right now. Clearly, he's not going to stop doing this probably ever. So the more people who know about him, hopefully, the less people get victimized by him. And for Kendall's audio only listeners, I really want to encourage you to go ahead and take some time to look him up or find this episode on YouTube so that you can get a glimpse of his face. Because who knows, maybe someone will actually recognize him out there and help put him back in jail where he belongs. And as for his real name, because I know we've called him like eight different things by now, no one really knows what his real name is.

• 38:20Speaker 02

  Meghan thinks it's most likely Robert Majewski, but like I said, he's gone through so many names, so it's really hard to tell what his real true legal name actually is. But Robert Daughtry was a big one that he was using for a while, so maybe it's that. I don't really, I don't really know, though. I don't think it's Robert Underwood. Like I said, I don't really know his real name, which is just insane. But before I leave you guys today, I wanted to go ahead and take a page out of Kendall's book and leave you guys on somewhat of a positive note. I wanted to share that Meghan seems to be doing really, really well today. And in order to pay off all the debt he put her in, she started up a photography business, which she's still actively doing to this day. She has a studio and does wedding and newborn photography. So I'm going to go ahead and have her Instagram linked in the show notes or description box of this episode as well,

• 39:04Speaker 02

  so you guys can go ahead and give her a follow. And I'm so curious to hear all of your guys' thoughts on this case. You better believe I'm going to be deep in these comments, so please let me know your thoughts down below. I just could not believe all this guy has done. When I was researching this, you know, for the first time, I was like, oh my God, that's crazy. Oh my God, that's crazy. Oh my, it just kept coming and coming, more and more was coming out. It's like this almost- Seems fake how insane this dude is and how much shit he's gotten away with for so many years. Now he's on the run. Like it's just, it's so wild to think about. But yeah, that's pretty much where our story ends today, folks. Um, thank you so much for tuning in. If you're still listening all the way to the end. I know that it's a little bit different

• 39:45Speaker 02

  than having Kendall here, but I really enjoyed this and hopefully you enjoyed it as well. And yeah, Kendall's gonna be back soon. And I know that she's really excited to get back to recording, so stay tuned for that. But I hope you guys are having a wonderful day. Thank you again so much for tuning in. And as always, stay safe out there. Bye.

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