EP. 202: NEW MEXICO - MURDERED ON HER 10TH BIRTHDAY: The Story of Victoria Martens

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• 1:15Colin Brown?

  Warning: The following podcast is not suitable for all audiences. We go into great detail with every case that we cover and do our best to bring viewers even deeper into the stories by utilizing disturbing audio and sound effects.

• 1:27Courtney Brown?

  Trigger warnings from the stories we cover may include violence, rape, murder, and offenses against children.

• 1:33Colin Brown?

  This podcast is not for everyone. You have been warned.

• 1:37Courtney Brown?

  Our story begins in the early morning hours of August 24, 2016. The police in Albuquerque, New Mexico, were responding to a call about a domestic dispute at an apartment complex. When they finally arrived and entered apartment 808, they couldn't help but notice the smoke that filled the unit and the smell that came with it. The fire alarms were blaring as they made their way towards the source of that smoke. And soon enough, they were led to a bathroom. But they had absolutely no idea the nightmare they were about to uncover. As it turns out, this was far more than a domestic dispute. As the officers opened up that door, they saw a body in the bathtub.

• 2:21Courtney Brown?

  The victim had been dismembered. Their organs had been removed. And they had been set on fire. But almost immediately, the officers noted how small the victim was. As it turns out, the body in the bathtub was that of 10-year-old Victoria Martins. She had been killed on her 10th birthday. But the story of how she got into that bathtub was even more devastating than the scene in front of them. For Victoria's 10th birthday, instead of playing with her friends, she spent the day with meth users. Instead of opening presents, Victoria was raped inside of her bedroom. And instead of eating cake surrounded by her loved ones, Victoria was murdered, dismembered, and set on fire.

• 3:06Courtney Brown?

  Major trigger warning for this episode as it is truly one of the most disturbing cases I have ever heard in my entire life. But this is the story of Victoria Martins. I'm Courtney Brown.

• 3:19Colin Brown?

  And I'm Colin Brown.

• 3:21Courtney Brown?

  And you're listening to Murder in America.

• 4:30Colin Brown?

  It's August of 2006 in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and 25-year-old Michelle Martins is just weeks away from giving birth. But if you were to have asked her, she would have denied being pregnant at all. For whatever reason, Michelle wouldn't acknowledge the fact that she was with child. Maybe it's because the baby's father wasn't in her life. Or maybe she just wasn't ready to become a mom. But Michelle wouldn't be able to deny it forever. Because on August 23rd, 2006, she started having contractions. And while she was at her house, all by herself, Michelle delivered a beautiful little girl named Victoria. Michelle called her "her miracle child" because despite not going to an OBGYN or taking prenatal vitamins,

• 5:15Colin Brown?

  Victoria still came out as healthy as could be. However, things weren't always easy for them. According to Michelle, Victoria's father wanted nothing to do with his daughter. So, they were all on their own. Now, Michelle was born in 1981, and she was described as having a low IQ, and was known to be extremely trusting and vulnerable. Originally from New York, Michelle moved to Texas before eventually settling in New Mexico. But luckily for her, she did have the help of her parents, which she was really grateful for, given she was a single mother.

• 5:49Courtney Brown?

  By the time Victoria was two years old, her mother Michelle started dating someone. Now, we don't know his name, but in 2008, they found out they were pregnant. And later that year, Michelle would give birth to a son named Matthew, Victoria's half-brother. Now, Michelle was actually with this man for years. He was in Victoria's life from age 2 to 9, so he was like a father figure to her. And these years seemed to be the best of Victoria's life. They were a family. But in 2015, Michelle and her boyfriend decided to part ways, ending their seven-year relationship. Now, Matthew continued to have a relationship with his dad, but it was a big adjustment for them.

• 6:32Courtney Brown?

  At the time, Michelle, nine-year-old Victoria, and seven-year-old Matthew were living at the Aurora Villa Apartment Complex on the west side of Albuquerque. And from the outside looking in, they appeared to be a normal family. In 2015, Victoria was going to school at Petroglyph Elementary School. And according to the people who knew her, she never met a stranger. Victoria was the type of girl that could walk up and start a conversation with anyone. She was very social and a natural at making new friends. She was also a very energetic child. According to her family, she loved being outside. Whether it was rollerblading, swimming with her little brother, riding around on her scooter,

• 7:16Courtney Brown?

  or just watching butterflies, Victoria could always be seen with a smile and a beautiful smile at that. When you look at pictures of her, you can just tell that she brought people joy, that her laugh was infectious. And like many girls her age, she was exploring her interests. At the time, she had really been loving gymnastics, she was good at drawing, and she loved anything sparkly and purple. Her family called her Queen Victoria, and they said, quote, "She could light up a room with all of her glowing laughter and the cute smirk she would give you," end quote. And up until this point, Victoria seemed

• 7:57Courtney Brown?

  to have a pretty decent life. Things weren't always easy, but she and her brother had a roof over their heads, food on the table, and family members who loved them. She was cared for. But all of that would begin to change in 2016.

• 8:12Colin Brown?

  That year, Michelle started dating a man named David Hernandez. And over the course of a few months, he started spending a lot of time with Michelle and her children. Now, we don't know if Michelle knew about her new boyfriend's criminal record, but a few years prior, in May of 2013, David had been driving around when he spotted a four-year-old girl in a parking lot. And at that moment, he decided to kidnap her. David snatched the little girl up and sped off down the road. But luckily, the police were nearby. They ended up catching up to him, but David didn't pull over. He continued running from the police until he ultimately crashed his vehicle. Now, following this, he ended up getting charged with kidnapping, child abuse, and auto theft. But surprisingly, he was

• 8:55Colin Brown?

  never actually convicted of anything. Apparently, about a month after the incident, the charges were dropped after the four-year-old girl and her family moved out of state. And I guess because they weren't going to testify against him, David Hernandez walked free.

• 9:11Courtney Brown?

  But a few years after this incident, Michelle Martins crossed paths with this man and they started dating. Now again, he was never convicted of anything, so maybe Michelle didn't know what he was capable of. However, she would soon find out. In early 2016, Michelle had left her nine-year-old daughter alone with David at their apartment. And it was during this time when David tried to make a move on Victoria. He was trying to kiss her, even going as far as cornering her in the apartment. But Victoria refused. Now, following this, she would actually tell a family friend about what happened. And on March 28th, 2016,

• 9:54Courtney Brown?

  that friend submitted an anonymous tip to the New Mexico Children, Youth and Family Department, otherwise known as CYFD. Now, I didn't realize this was a thing, but apparently, since the tip wasn't submitted by the parent, guardian, or custodian living inside the house, the case was out of CYFD's jurisdiction. So after receiving this tip, they sent it over to the Albuquerque Police Department. However, when APD reviewed the case, they didn't think it was a big deal. APD spokesperson Officer Fred Durin explained, "Unfortunately, somebody attempting to do something such as kissing the child is not a crime.

• 10:37Courtney Brown?

  It has to be some sort of contact, or there has to be more to it before it's considered a crime under New Mexico state law." End quote. Now, keep in mind, APD was the very department who had arrested David Hernandez for kidnapping that little girl in 2013. So if they would have just looked into it, they would have seen just how dangerous this man was.

• 11:00Speaker 05

  She did what she could as a small child to tell adults.

• 11:07Speaker 05

  Help. She basically said, "Help me." Adult man kissing a young girl, and that's dismissed, is not important to investigate? I mean, to me, that's shocking. But then if you go further and know what they knew in their own files, they would have been able to connect it and say, "This guy is a pedophile."

• 11:25Courtney Brown?

  Now, according to the family friend who sent in the tip, when Michelle found out that David had tried to kiss Victoria, she immediately broke things off with him, and she kicked him out of the apartment. But besides that, no one from law enforcement or any family services came in to help or to make sure Victoria was okay.

• 11:46Colin Brown?

  And this wasn't the only time that someone had sent in a tip about the well-being of Michelle's children. In fact, on March 14th, 2015, about two weeks before the tip about David was sent in, someone else had called a child abuse hotline to report that both Victoria and her brother Matthew had poor hygiene, dirty clothes, and that they had been improperly disciplined by a grandparent. Now, this report also said that Michelle and a grandparent consumed alcohol while caring for the children. Once again, the report was handed over to the Albuquerque Police Department, but this time, they actually looked into it. According to APD, they went to the children's school and separately interviewed both Victoria and Matthew. And during their interviews, they found no signs of physical, sexual, or emotional abuse.

• 12:32Colin Brown?

  There were no bruises, no dirty clothes, and the children appeared to be clean and well taken care of. Interestingly, in the following year, in 2016, Michelle Martins actually made two reports to the child abuse hotline about her own son, Matthew. In those reports, she alleged that while under the care of Matthew's father, he was left with an unknown babysitter, and that he had poor hygiene. Once again, APD went to their school to interview him, but they found no evidence of abuse. The official report stated, "In the course of three investigations, both Victoria and her sibling were interviewed at school and at home. Each child was interviewed separately from their sibling, and all interviews of the children were conducted outside the presence of Michelle Martins and the sibling's biological father.

• 13:16Colin Brown?

  Both children were asked questions about physical and sexual abuse, and neither child made any disclosures of physical or sexual abuse in any of the three investigations." So, based on these reports, there did seem to be some instability within their family, but nothing serious enough to remove Victoria and Matthew from their home. A later internal review would claim that CYFD investigated the claims thoroughly and in accordance with state policy and procedure.

• 13:43Courtney Brown?

  Now, in the summer of 2016, it looked like things were looking up for Michelle Martins. She had even got a new job in the deli at Smith's Grocery Store. And before they hired her, they made Michelle take a drug test, which she passed. So from the outside looking in, Michelle appeared to be working hard. She was trying to be a good mom. On the fridge in her apartment, she had all of Victoria's drawings proudly displayed. She had all of her emergency contact phone numbers. Michelle's parents, John and Pat Martins, were really proud of their daughter. Life hadn't always been easy, but she was working hard to give her children a good life.

• 14:26Courtney Brown?

  On the 4th of July, the entire family got together at the pool and spent the day swimming, eating hot dogs and hamburgers, and just enjoying each other's company. But little did they know, their life was about to change forever when another man entered into Michelle's life. Now, like we mentioned, Michelle broke up with her previous boyfriend, David Hernandez, after he had tried to kiss her nine-year-old daughter. But after their breakup, she was longing for some companionship. So in the summer of 2016, Michelle visited the online dating website called Plenty of Fish. Their website reads, quote, "We are committed to help ensure that you feel welcomed, safe,

• 15:09Courtney Brown?

  and free to be yourself while online dating." So that night, Michelle started scrolling, looking through all of the eligible men in her area. And eventually, she came across the profile of Fabian Gonzalez. He was 31 years old, Hispanic, he had children of his own, and after looking through his pictures, Michelle thought he was attractive. So that night, the two started a conversation on the dating website. And before they knew it, they had plans to meet up in person. Now, one would think that after what happened with her previous boyfriend, that Michelle would be a little apprehensive about bringing new men around her children. But that wasn't the case.

• 15:51Courtney Brown?

  In fact, after just a couple weeks of dating, Fabian moved into their apartment.

• 15:57Colin Brown?

  Michelle must have known that her family wouldn't approve of this because she kept her new relationship a secret, which, according to Michelle, was Fabian's idea. But that summer, there was one instance where Michelle's parents came over unannounced while Fabian was in the apartment. When Michelle looked through the peephole and saw her parents at the door, she rushed Fabian over to her bedroom and made him hide in a closet until her parents left. Maybe she knew that her parents wouldn't approve of him, or maybe she was scared that they'd look into his criminal record. Because, of course, Fabian Gonzalez was also a criminal. His rap sheet dated all the way back to 2004 and included charges of felony child abuse,

• 16:37Colin Brown?

  battery involving great bodily harm, driving while intoxicated, and resisting arrest. In August of 2014, Fabian was charged with assaulting his girlfriend as she drove with their young child in the backseat. In February of 2015, Fabian pled guilty to two misdemeanor charges and received two years supervised probation under the New Mexico Department of Corrections.

• 17:00Courtney Brown?

  Now, under the conditions of his probation, Fabian was ordered to go to counseling, he was supposed to have random drug and alcohol testing, and supervised home visits. And I'm sure at first, when Fabian was put on probation, he followed the rules. But months and months would pass, and no one ever came checking on him. No random visits, no drug tests, or anything. By 2016, he had been on probation for an entire year with no visits from his parole officer. Now, the Department of Corrections would later be confronted about this, and they said that they never received any documentation that he was required to be supervised.

• 17:44Courtney Brown?

  So for that whole year, they were supposed to be keeping an eye on him. They weren't.

• 17:49Colin Brown?

  Alex Sanchez, the New Mexico Department of Corrections Deputy Secretary of Administration, told KRQE in August 2016, "We were not aware of this plea agreement until this morning it came to our attention. We never received the documentation to say he had entered into this agreement."

• 18:05Courtney Brown?

  So after a year of this, Fabian realized that he was pretty much free to do whatever he wanted. He was able to move from home to home without checking in with anyone, and he was free to use drugs, his favorite being methamphetamine. Now Fabian would later say that upon moving in with Michelle, things were going fine. And luckily for him, he was being spoiled by his new girlfriend. Not only did he have a place to live, but Michelle let him use her car whenever he wanted, her cellphone, and she allowed him to smoke meth in her apartment. And during the few weeks they had been dating, Fabian also seemed to get along with Michelle's children. Fabian would later say of nine-year-old Victoria,

• 18:49Courtney Brown?

  quote, "She loved me, you know? She was, 'Hey Fabian,' and we'd always smile. Victoria is real active. She's cool, you know what I mean? She's all grown up, you know, for her age," end quote. And it seemed like Victoria liked him as well. After a few days of living there, he even gave Victoria a kitten, which clearly won her over. One day, Victoria even sat down and wrote Fabian a letter that read, quote, "I like you because you are funny. I really like you. We were supposed to go to the zoo today, and I just like you," end quote. So on the surface, it seemed like everything was fine here, but that couldn't

• 19:31Courtney Brown?

  have been further from the truth. You see, while Michelle was at work and the children were at school, Fabian would invite friends over to their apartment, and they would all smoke meth together. So the company he was bringing around was not the best. Victoria and her little brother Matthew would come home from school to drug paraphernalia lying around. And Michelle, having only known this man for a couple of weeks, allowed it. Eventually, she even started using the drugs herself. And from there, everything began to fall apart. But things would get exponentially worse when a woman named Jessica Kelly came into the picture.

• 20:13Colin Brown?

  Thirty-one-year-old Jessica Kelly was actually Fabian's cousin, and on August 15th, 2016, she was released from prison. Now, like many people in this story, Jessica had a long rap sheet. Her convictions included two felony charges of trafficking controlled substances, DWI, assault upon a peace officer, resisting arrest, and conspiracy to commit criminal sexual penetration. She got that while in prison, where she was apparently planning to sexually assault a female inmate. So, a real stand-up citizen here. But by 2016, Jessica had been in and out of prison for over a decade, and now she was free.

• 20:52Courtney Brown?

  Like her cousin Fabian, Jessica was also a methamphetamine user. And despite being on probation, she and Fabian reconnected and celebrated her release by smoking a bunch of meth together. On August 18th, during one of their meth hangouts, Jessica told Fabian that she was struggling. After her release from prison, she didn't have a place to live. None of her family members would let her move in because she was still actively using drugs. So at that moment, Fabian invited Jessica to come live with him at Michelle's apartment. The apartment that he had just moved into himself, where Michelle lived with her two young children. Now, I'm not sure if Michelle was in on this plan

• 21:38Courtney Brown?

  or if he just invited his cousin without her permission, but Michelle would later allow Jessica to move in, so she had to have been okay with it. Fabian told Jessica that she only had to pay them $50 a month to live there. However, Michelle never knew about this payment. Fabian was apparently just pocketing that money for himself. But soon enough, Michelle and her children, just nine and seven years old, had two criminal meth users that they didn't even know living with them.

• 22:09Colin Brown?

  On August 21st, 2016, Jessica Kelly's loved ones decided to throw a huge family barbecue for her to celebrate her release from prison. But the family made sure not to invite Fabian. You see, over the years, he had been a problem at these family get togethers. He was known to have a volatile temper. He'd even threatened some family members in the past, so they chose not to invite him. But when Fabian found out about this, he was furious, and he decided that he was going to show up anyway. That evening, everyone was drinking and having a good time at the barbecue, when all of a sudden, Fabian showed up. He was clearly angry about not being invited, so they confronted him and asked him to leave.

• 22:50Colin Brown?

  But immediately upon doing so, a fight ensued, and Fabian ended up fighting a pregnant woman who punched him so hard, he got a black eye. Following this fight, he was even angrier than he was before, and as he left the house, he screamed out that he was going to come back with his brothers. Now, according to court documents, Fabian's brothers were founding members of the TCK gang in New Mexico, a gang that has had an extremely violent homicidal history. And apparently, Fabian and his brothers were still active in the gang. So, after he threatened to bring his brothers to the barbecue, the family was worried. They even put some armed men outside to guard the doors, just in case he came back. Now, throughout that entire night, Fabian kept texting his family at the barbecue,

• 23:35Colin Brown?

  threatening them, and they had every right to be frightened, because cellphone records would later show that Fabian called his brothers over 20 times that evening. He was also researching gun purchases. But luckily, Fabian never came back to the family barbecue that night. However, I think this story goes to show just how dangerous he was, how volatile. And this is the man that Michelle Martins chose to have a relationship with, the man she let move into her home. Hey, everybody. Courtney and I have a favor to ask of you. If you love Murder in America, you love our show, please leave us a five-star review wherever you listen to your podcasts, whether that's Apple Podcasts, Spotify. If you love our show and you want to help us grow, definitely consider leaving us a five-star review.

• 24:19Colin Brown?

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• 24:46Courtney Brown?

  Now even though Fabian had this beef with his family members, he and his cousin Jessica were still on good terms. She was still living with him in Michelle's apartment. And like Fabian, she too started taking advantage of Michelle. Within two days of living there, Jessica invited her two teenage kids to come over and stay the night. Another night that week, Jessica invited a man to come over. And while everyone was sleeping, Jessica had sex with this man in the living room, right outside of nine-year-old Victoria's bedroom. Now during the day, Jessica also took Michelle's car to go run errands around town. And keep in mind, they had only known each other for a few days.

• 25:31Colin Brown?

  That week, Michelle had also taken Jessica and Fabian to this casino in town. It was around midnight on a school night, but Victoria was in the car with them. While Michelle and Victoria were in the car in the casino parking lot, Fabian and Jessica decided to break into some cars. Eventually, a security guard approached them, so they quickly ran back to the car, where Michelle and Victoria were waiting for them. And from there, they made their way back home. But as you can see, Michelle knew that Fabian and Jessica were bad news. Yet she continued to hang out with them. She continued to let them stay at her apartment. And during that time, Fabian and Jessica were doing a lot of meth together, right there in the apartment with Michelle's young children.

• 26:14Colin Brown?

  However, the meth was making Jessica extremely paranoid. On the night of August 22nd, Jessica even went into Michelle's bedroom and woke Fabian up. She asked him if he would read the Bible with her because she was so scared. But it didn't seem to help, because the following day was August 23rd, a day that would change everything.

• 26:34Courtney Brown?

  This was also a very special day. As it was Victoria Martens's tenth birthday, that morning she woke up, got on her school bus, and made her way over to her elementary school, which ended up being the best thing for her. Because that day, her mother Michelle was too busy smoking meth to celebrate. While Victoria was at school, Michelle and Fabian went to their local drug dealer to pick up some more meth. They had smoked the last of their supply that morning, so they needed more. At around noon, Fabian and Michelle would make their way back home. But when they walked through the doors, Jessica was there acting very strange. She kept looking out the windows.

• 27:18Courtney Brown?

  Her eyes would dart to the front door. She even thought that the TV was sending her subliminal messages. After smoking meth that day, she was very paranoid. Now, after spending a few hours at home, Fabian and Michelle decided to leave the apartment again to go get some alcohol. But based on Jessica's behavior, they were very concerned about her. At 2:33 PM, Michelle even texted her friend and asked if she could go over to check on Jessica. She clearly wasn't doing well. Which is why this next part is mind-boggling. While Michelle and Fabian were running around getting drugs and alcohol, Michelle realized that Victoria needed to be picked up from the bus stop soon.

• 28:03Courtney Brown?

  After running around doing meth all day, she had completely forgotten about it. So in that moment, she texted her mother Pat and asked if she could get Victoria. Fabian offered up another solution. He told Michelle that Jessica could go pick her up. Now, like we mentioned, Jessica had been doing meth all day, and she was visibly paranoid. So at first, Michelle wasn't sure if that was a good idea. However, Fabian convinced her otherwise. He told her, "Don't worry, Jessica will pick her up, and she can watch her at the apartment until we get back." And for whatever reason, Michelle agreed. She quickly texted her mother, quote, "Never mind, I got it."

• 28:46Courtney Brown?

  And in her mind, her kid's childcare for the day had been taken care of. Her son Matthew was staying at his father's house, and Victoria would be in Jessica's care. It had all perfectly fallen into place for her. She and Fabian could now spend the day together getting high, without having to worry about watching her daughter. Sadly, Michelle didn't even take into account that it was Victoria's birthday.

• 29:12Colin Brown?

  Now, believe it or not, Michelle's mother, Pat, had actually been calling Michelle that entire afternoon. She saw Michelle's text about picking up Victoria from the bus stop, and she was willing to do it. But Michelle wasn't answering her phone calls. So it's not like Jessica was the only person who could have picked Victoria up that day. Michelle's mom easily could have too. But they decided to give that responsibility to Jessica instead. Which is crazy, because not only had Jessica been smoking meth, but they had both seen how paranoid she had been that day. And still, they decided to leave a 10-year-old in her care. At 3:00 PM, Michelle and Fabian made a trip to the liquor store. From there, they went to a friend's house. And while they were there, Michelle sent a text to Jessica.

• 29:57Courtney Brown?

  Hey, remember to pick up Victoria from the bus stop.

• 30:01Colin Brown?

  But Jessica didn't respond to her text. So, a few minutes later, she sent another text.

• 30:06Courtney Brown?

  Did you pick her up?

• 30:08Colin Brown?

  But again, no answer. Jessica had been too paranoid to check her texts. Back in the apartment, she even decided to keep the apartment's front door open so if someone started walking up the stairs, she would be able to see them. Clearly, Jessica was spiraling.

• 30:24Courtney Brown?

  Victoria was at her elementary school enjoying the last little bit of her school day. The first part of Victoria's 10th birthday had been great. Her teachers and classmates all celebrated her by eating cupcakes and singing her happy birthday. She had spent the day running around with her friends, laughing and smiling like she always did. Now, her family would be getting together the following day for her birthday party, but today was her actual birthday, and I'm sure she expected to come home and feel celebrated. Maybe her mom would play with her. Victoria's favorite thing to do was draw or rollerblade, so maybe she would get to do that with her mother.

• 31:06Courtney Brown?

  However, when she arrived at her bus stop around 4:00 PM, no one was there to pick her up. Not her mom, not her grandma, not even Jessica. So Victoria waited there. Eventually, a neighbor spotted her sitting there all by herself, so they offered to walk her home. And at 4:25 PM, Victoria finally arrived at her apartment, but she was not greeted with a warm birthday welcome. When she walked through the doors, the only person there was Jessica. Now, the neighbor who walked Victoria home that day saw Jessica sitting in the house, and immediately she was concerned. She even texted Michelle and said, "Hey, Victoria's trying to get in touch with you.

• 31:50Courtney Brown?

  I walked her home today and I noticed there's a woman in your apartment that I've never seen before." Clearly, even the neighbor was worried about leaving Victoria alone with this woman.

• 32:01Colin Brown?

  At 5:00 PM, Victoria spoke to her grandparents over the phone. John and Pat Martins had called to wish her a happy birthday, and according to them, Victoria sounded happy. She told them all about how her day went, how she ate cupcakes with her class, and how they sang her happy birthday. Then from there, they told her they loved her, and the call ended. They had no idea that that would be the very last conversation they would ever have with their granddaughter. A few minutes after hanging up the phone, Fabian and Michelle finally returned back to the apartment. I'm sure Victoria was happy to see her mother, but sadly, after just a few minutes of being there, they left again to go pick up drugs. And this time, they were gone for about an hour.

• 32:44Colin Brown?

  Now, inside the apartment, Victoria walked over to Jessica and said, "Did you know it's my 10th birthday?" Jessica would later say that she felt bad for Victoria. No one had celebrated her. Her own mother had only been home a couple of minutes before leaving. So Jessica pulled out her wallet and gave Victoria forty-five dollars, which is like a million dollars to a ten-year-old. However, that too would soon be taken away from her.

• 33:10Courtney Brown?

  When Michelle and Fabian finally came back to the apartment, Victoria ran over to her mother and showed her the forty-five dollars. But from there, Fabian pulled Victoria into the bathroom and closed the door. Reportedly, they were in there for about fifteen minutes. And during that time, Fabian had taken her birthday money away from her. From there, he and Michelle would leave the apartment again, and he used Victoria's birthday money to buy himself some vodka. Now, back inside the apartment, Jessica decides to call her sister Crystal, who is in prison. When Crystal answered the phone from prison, she could immediately tell that something was wrong with her.

• 33:53Courtney Brown?

  Jessica started talking about how she was being followed by an ex-boyfriend, who went by the name of Sinner. Jessica said that there was a car in the parking lot that kept circling around, and how she figured it was Sinner. She also said that Sinner had planted some books in her bedroom. But as she's saying all of this, her sister knows that she has to be on drugs. Crystal even tells her, "You're smoking too much meth and you're just tweaking out", which was true. But as it turns out, this ex-boyfriend of hers named Sinner was actually in prison at the time, so he clearly couldn't have been following her. Now, once Jessica got off the phone,

• 34:35Courtney Brown?

  she looked out of the window and saw Victoria riding around on her scooter, talking to a neighbor. That neighbor was named Sabrina, and she would later say that Victoria came up to her and started talking about a new kitten she had just adopted. Victoria wanted to run inside and show her the kitten. But as Victoria was talking, Jessica ran over and started talking over Victoria. Sabrina said it was the strangest thing. It was almost like she didn't want Victoria to talk. Jessica also mentioned something about giving her forty-five dollars, and then Sabrina watched as Jessica aggressively yanked Victoria inside the apartment.

• 35:16Courtney Brown?

  And sadly, that would be the very last time Victoria Martins was ever seen alive.

• 35:24Colin Brown?

  Early that next morning at 4:30 a.m., August 24th, there was some commotion outside the Arroyo Villa's apartment complex. Michelle Martins' neighbors opened up their front door, and there, they saw Michelle with a huge bloody gash on her forehead. Standing next to her was her boyfriend Fabian. The couple told their neighbors that their roommate, Jessica Kelly, had attacked them with a tire iron. Even worse, Michelle's daughter, Victoria, was still inside the apartment with Jessica. So from here, they called 911. Here's that 911 call, but it's a little hard to hear.

• 35:58Speaker 06

  And the guy's at our door, saying he got beat up pretty bad. Oh my god! What's happening? That was a weird, pretty beat up. I'm sorry? Yeah. Is it a male or a female that he's fighting with? There's two, no, I'm just... Who are you fighting? Who's in my house? Oh, there's a girl in the house. I don't know, but this girl's beating really bad. There's a little girl inside the house. How old? How old is your daughter? Ten. Oh, yeah, she's ten. Does she have weight? I don't know, she doesn't know. There's other individuals inside her house.

• 36:37Courtney Brown?

  When the Albuquerque Police Department arrived on scene, they saw Fabian and Michelle outside in the apartment's courtyard. And it's here where they were informed that Jessica, who was responsible for the attack, was still inside. So the police began yelling out to Jessica, ordering her to come out, but she refused. They tried to gain entry into the apartment, but Jessica had slammed the door in their faces and deadbolted it. But inside apartment 808, Jessica Kelly was panicking. She ran out to the balcony and decided that she was going to try an escape. However, when she jumped off the second story, Jessica fell and broke her ankle.

• 37:20Courtney Brown?

  And from there, the officers were able to detain her. Here is the video of her arrest.

• 37:28Speaker 07

  Oh my leg.

• 37:29Speaker 08

  Come here, come here, come here.

• 37:30Speaker 07

  I didn't do nothing.

• 37:31Speaker 08

  Come here.

• 37:31Speaker 07

  There's some shit that went down. No, I didn't do nothing.

• 37:35Speaker 08

  Hey, stop, stop, stop it. Stop it.

• 37:40Speaker 07

  I'm scared, you guys. Ah!

• 37:44Speaker 07

  Ay! Alright, relax, relax. My leg, my leg.

• 37:49Speaker 08

  Stop it, stop it.

• 37:52Speaker 08

  Hold her hand.

• 37:57Speaker 08

  Why'd you lock the door?

• 37:59Speaker 07

  Somebody just started a fucking fire and they went over the fucking balcony, dude.

• 38:04Speaker 07

  Ah!

• 38:05Speaker 08

  Hey, sit down, sit down. Sit down.

• 38:10Speaker 08

  Stay right there, okay?

• 38:14Speaker 08

  Did you jump out the balcony? Did you jump out?

• 38:16Speaker 07

  I just fell off the top.

• 38:18Speaker 08

  Who did? Okay, why'd you jump?

• 38:20Speaker 07

  Because, because...

• 38:26Speaker 08

  Whose apartment is that?

• 38:27Speaker 07

  I don't know, I ate away.

• 38:28Speaker 08

  Okay, deep breaths, relax, relax, okay?

• 38:31Speaker 07

  No.

• 38:34Speaker 07

  Oh, my leg.

• 38:36Speaker 08

  Okay, 'cause you jumped, right?

• 38:37Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 38:38Speaker 08

  Well, that's what happens when you jump off the second story.

• 38:39Speaker 07

  I panicked, 'cause he fucking hit me.

• 38:42Speaker 08

  Well, we said we were the cops.

• 38:44Speaker 07

  I was scared, dude.

• 38:47Speaker 08

  Well, jumping off the balcony is kinda extreme. Wouldn't you say?

• 38:52Speaker 07

  I'm panicking, dude.

• 38:54Speaker 08

  Okay, what were y'all fighting about? What were you fighting about?

• 38:58Speaker 07

  She woke up and asked her daughter, I was...

• 39:00Speaker 08

  Uh-huh.

• 39:00Speaker 07

  I was, I don't know where she's at, dude.

• 39:02Speaker 08

  Okay, no, we got her, she's in another apartment. Did you hit her, did you hit her?

• 39:06Speaker 07

  Huh?

• 39:06Speaker 08

  Did you hit somebody?

• 39:07Speaker 07

  She hit me and I hit her back.

• 39:08Speaker 08

  She hit you first? What'd you hit her with?

• 39:10Speaker 07

  Huh?

• 39:11Speaker 08

  What'd you hit her with?

• 39:11Speaker 07

  My hand.

• 39:12Speaker 08

  Your hand?

• 39:16Speaker 08

  Stay on the ground, don't get up, okay?

• 39:21Speaker 08

  Whose apartment is that?

• 39:23Speaker 07

  That's hers.

• 39:24Speaker 08

  What's her name?

• 39:25Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 39:28Speaker 07

  My leg.

• 39:29Speaker 08

  Okay, we got her on the way. We'll check you out, okay?

• 39:35Speaker 08

  So whose apartment is that?

• 39:37Speaker 07

  Just one of my cousin Fabian's.

• 39:38Speaker 08

  That's your cousin Fabian? Who else?

• 39:40Speaker 07

  Michelle.

• 39:41Speaker 08

  Michelle? Is that his girlfriend?

• 39:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 39:43Speaker 08

  Is that the girl you're fighting with?

• 39:44Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 39:44Speaker 08

  Okay.

• 39:44Speaker 07

  Well, I was with her when we fought, and she woke up, started screaming, and I said, "Hey dude, I can't find your daughter, dude. Somebody's in the fucking, in here, dude."

• 39:52Speaker 08

  You drinking last night?

• 39:53Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 39:54Speaker 08

  Any drugs?

• 39:56Speaker 07

  No.

• 39:57Speaker 08

  No?

• 40:01Speaker 07

  Dude.

• 40:04Speaker 08

  Okay, do we have a car up there? Put her in your car, man. Okay. Come on.

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• 42:34Courtney Brown?

  Now, as you just heard, shortly after Jessica was detained by the police, the fire alarm at the apartment complex started going off. So while that officer stayed with her, the others entered apartment 808 to try and locate Victoria. However, as soon as they stepped inside, they were hit with smoke. Smoke that was coming directly from the apartment's bathroom. The officers quickly rushed over and opened the door. And the image they would see would stick with them for the rest of their lives. There, in the bathtub, was a little body wrapped up in a blanket. It was 10-year-old Victoria Martins. When the officers stepped closer,

• 43:17Courtney Brown?

  they saw Victoria had been dismembered. Then, in an attempt to cover up the crime, she had been set on fire horrifically in the living room. Officers found a trash bag that contained a heart, liver, lungs, and kidneys. And with Jessica Kelly being the only one in the apartment when they arrived, they believed that she had been the one responsible. So here is the rest of the body cam footage from outside the apartment.

• 43:46Speaker 08

  Hey. Do we have our car up there?

• 43:48Speaker 07

  Put it in your car, man.

• 43:49Speaker 08

  Okay.

• 43:53Speaker 08

  She's got a... Dude, the child's 10-7 inside. Okay. Stay with her.

• 43:59Speaker 08

  Okay.

• 44:01Speaker 08

  Me bring my car up or do you wanna bring yours up man? Put it in your car. Okay. Let's go. Get up.

• 44:08Speaker 07

  I'm getting up.

• 44:09Speaker 08

  Get up.

• 44:09Speaker 07

  I didn't do this dude.

• 44:11Speaker 08

  Get up.

• 44:12Speaker 07

  Ah, ah, ah.

• 44:14Speaker 08

  Walk to my car.

• 44:14Speaker 07

  I, I can't do it.

• 44:17Speaker 08

  Walk.

• 44:17Speaker 07

  I can't, my leg's broken.

• 44:23Speaker 08

  Walk.

• 44:24Speaker 07

  Ay.

• 44:24Speaker 08

  Walk! I don't care if your leg's broken, you're gonna walk.

• 44:28Speaker 07

  I can't walk dude, hold on.

• 44:30Speaker 08

  You're gonna walk.

• 44:31Speaker 07

  My leg's broken, I just got thrown off the fucking balcony dude.

• 44:33Speaker 08

  You didn't get thrown off, you jumped off. I saw you close the door. And you told me you jumped, come on.

• 44:38Speaker 07

  I, dude, my whole leg is broke though.

• 44:41Speaker 08

  Keep walking.

• 44:42Speaker 07

  I'm trying.

• 44:47Speaker 08

  Go ahead.

• 44:50Speaker 09

  Can you advise what we're looking at here, male, female, cause of bleeding?

• 44:54Speaker 08

  Walk.

• 44:55Speaker 07

  No.

• 44:55Speaker 08

  Female, male.

• 44:56Speaker 07

  No, dude, no.

• 45:02Speaker 07

  Don't tell me that I have to use my own, dude.

• 45:07Speaker 07

  Ah, ay, ay.

• 45:14Speaker 08

  Yeah, yeah, doesn't matter, it's four, it's four.

• 45:17Speaker 07

  Ay dude.

• 45:17Speaker 08

  It's four dude, but doesn't matter.

• 45:21Speaker 08

  Walk, walk. Walk!

• 45:22Speaker 07

  I'm going dude.

• 45:26Speaker 07

  Ay.

• 45:28Speaker 07

  Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, whoa, ah, fuck.

• 45:37Speaker 08

  Keep walking.

• 45:38Speaker 07

  Ah, ay. My leg.

• 45:42Speaker 08

  Keep walking.

• 45:43Speaker 07

  My leg.

• 45:46Speaker 08

  Go.

• 45:46Speaker 07

  Ay dude, I'm trying.

• 45:48Speaker 08

  We'll get you help later, let's go now.

• 45:52Speaker 08

  Who else was in the apartment with you?

• 45:55Speaker 07

  Ay, another guy.

• 46:00Speaker 08

  Where's the other guy?

• 46:01Speaker 07

  He took coffee, he started trying to wipe blood up and they started panicking.

• 46:11Courtney Brown?

  In that body cam footage, you heard the officer ask her, "Who else was in the apartment with you?" To which Jessica says, "Another guy. He took off. I started trying to wipe the blood up and I started panicking." So it seems at this moment, Jessica was trying to place the blame on this random man who she said had entered the apartment. But shortly after being detained, Jessica would lawyer up. However, Fabian and Michelle were willing to talk to the police. In this next part, we are going to play parts of Fabian's interview. He's sitting there in the interrogation room, shirtless. And he asks if he and Michelle could be interviewed together.

• 46:55Speaker 10

  Is there a way that we and Michelle could kind of talk to you at the same time? Maybe in the room?

• 47:01Speaker 11

  No, like I said, there's some detectives talking to her. So in order to make sure we get everybody's story right.

• 47:07Speaker 10

  The only reason I'm saying that is because us together because it's been how are you hearing? Why? How should we sell?

• 47:14Speaker 11

  So let me explain this. If you guys are both telling the truth, then the story will be exactly the same and you have nothing to worry about. Okay, Fabian, based on some information we've got from other detectives who are still out there, from your old lady, we have some other things that have kind of come up that aren't making sense that we want to talk to you about, okay? Are you doing okay, bro? Did you get some water?

• 47:36Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 47:36Speaker 11

  Was that? What'd you eat, dude? Was it anything?

• 47:38Speaker 10

  The food bar or whatever.

• 47:40Speaker 11

  It was kind of gross, huh?

• 47:41Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 47:41Speaker 11

  I had one taste on cardboard.

• 47:43Speaker 12

  I like them.

• 47:44Speaker 11

  Yeah, it was pretty gross.

• 47:45Speaker 10

  I'm not that good at it. I really don't like it. I hate it because I've been humping mine.

• 47:50Speaker 11

  Okay. So.

• 47:52Speaker 10

  I haven't ate for like 10 hours, so. But I'm not even really hung up. I just have my stomach just.

• 47:57Speaker 11

  Unsettled?

• 47:58Speaker 10

  This just doesn't feel it just feels like it's a nightmare. It just doesn't feel real, guys. It just really doesn't.

• 48:04Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 48:05Colin Brown?

  But from here, the detectives wanna know what the hell happened. There is a ten-year-old little girl murdered and dismembered in the apartment with three grown adults. And just before this, one of those adults tried to kill the other two with a tire iron. So, how did we get here? When the detectives ask Fabian this, he breaks down in tears, telling them that he has no idea what happened. He said he and Michelle went to sleep that night, and the next thing he knew, his cousin Jessica was in their bedroom trying to kill them. He said he didn't even know that Victoria had been murdered. But the detectives weren't buying it. In fact, they spoke to some neighbors who reported that the night before, they were awoken to sounds of screaming and banging coming from apartment 808. They also heard things dragging around.

• 48:50Colin Brown?

  So, the fact that they heard that, when Fabian supposedly didn't, just doesn't add up.

• 48:56Speaker 11

  We're trying to figure out exactly what happened because, like we said before, I think Victoria deserves that.

• 49:01Speaker 10

  Well, yeah.

• 49:02Speaker 11

  I mean, anybody deserves that, but especially the little girl, you know?

• 49:06Speaker 10

  To me, this is... I would've never talked to her in my whole life. Would've been something, I guess, ever.

• 49:14Speaker 11

  So Fabian, just off the top, we're gonna ask you this.

• 49:19Speaker 11

  We obviously have Victoria's body, okay?

• 49:22Speaker 10

  Okay, could I ask you this real quick? Where'd you find it?

• 49:25Speaker 11

  Okay, so we'll, we can get into that. We have Victoria's body. Now, we're gonna do a bunch of tests and stuff. We'll collect a bunch of evidence from her body, okay? We can tell what kinda things were used to injure her, of how she died.

• 49:44Speaker 11

  If something happened to her, what, what injuries she sustained before she died?

• 49:48Speaker 10

  Maybe if they suffocated, if she suffocated or something, that's why we're getting here, maybe? That's the only, that's probably the only real thing I can think of right now, cuz we, I would've hurt her and I would've got up and did the same thing I done for Michelle, when she even tried and you had her. You know what I mean?

• 50:02Speaker 11

  And so we'll be able to tell that. Did Victoria suffocate?

• 50:06Speaker 10

  I don't know. I don't know. Okay, I do not know if she suffocated. I don't know. All I know is that you guys just told me now that her her knee broke. Whatever got cut off.

• 50:18Speaker 11

  So let me get back to what I was talking about.

• 50:19Speaker 10

  I'm not kidding. I should have been able to hear it, but I didn't hear it. I'm telling you, I'm

• 50:24Speaker 11

  So let, so let me, let me get back to what I'm talking about and it'll clarify some stuff, okay? We'll be able to tell if there's injuries on her body, if they were sustained before she died. We'll be able to tell how she died. And then what injuries she sustained after she died, okay? Um, so that'll, that'll help us out. Uh, we will also be able to tell uh, who's touched her.

• 50:46Speaker 10

  Yeah, I want you guys to, very much.

• 50:48Speaker 11

  Who's, if, if, if she, who she touched.

• 50:51Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 50:51Speaker 11

  We can see if she scratched somebody, if she grabbed somebody's hair, if there's hair or clothes on her. There's all kinds of stuff, right? You've seen TV, there's all kinds of

• 50:58Speaker 10

  Yes, and I want this to all

• 51:00Speaker 11

  Okay, so here's, so here's the question I have to ask you because of that. Because we're gonna get those tests back.

• 51:04Speaker 10

  Okay, that's fine.

• 51:05Speaker 11

  We are.

• 51:06Speaker 10

  Mm-hmm.

• 51:07Speaker 11

  My, my question just lay out.

• 51:11Speaker 11

  If, for, what reason would we find your DNA on Victoria? On her body, on her clothes, or even inside of her body? And I know that sounds horrible, but I have to ask the question.

• 51:22Speaker 10

  No. Hell no. No, man. That's crazy, man. I know you have to ask that question. You just have to ask. No, no, no damn way.

• 51:32Speaker 11

  Any reason I'm gonna find any of your DNA in her fingernails from her fighting with you or scratching you?

• 51:38Speaker 10

  No, Jessica. I'm just right now. Telling you right now, that's the only one I can think of right now because she's the one that wouldn't try to do that to us. She tried killing us for Christ sakes.

• 51:50Speaker 10

  I wouldn't do something like that to nobody. No matter what situation or what it just, I just never even thought I got it. I, I, I don't have it in me, okay? I would never do something like that. I just don't got it in me. I'm not built like that. I never have been.

• 52:04Speaker 11

  Okay. I feel you, man. Absolutely. For me to have to go through this, of the person, of the individual. Not knowing that this is gonna help you at all whatsoever. Or not being able to notice. You know, you help myself.

• 52:23Speaker 11

  How do you feel, tell me.

• 52:26Speaker 13

  I wanna be so, I wanna, I just feel like it's, see me though. Why I didn't hear, why, how I didn't know. That's what I'm mad about. That's what I'm really mad about. How the hell did I not know I was here?

• 52:48Speaker 13

  I've never been in something like that.

• 52:50Speaker 11

  I, I believe you, I think, yes, if you could have stopped whoever it was that killed Victoria, if you could have stopped him.

• 52:57Speaker 13

  I would, I would.

• 52:59Speaker 11

  Okay.

• 53:00Speaker 13

  I would have tried my best.

• 53:03Speaker 13

  I'm saying that I would have, but I would have tried my best.

• 53:06Speaker 12

  The fact that you're getting your feet by some chick up on, in the apartment, and you run off and leave a little girl and your girlfriend in the apartment with a crazy chick with a frickin' iron?

• 53:18Speaker 11

  I didn't know if there was any more people there, that's why I just wanted to hurry up.

• 53:20Speaker 12

  So you're looking after your own. So what I'm saying now is frickin' be a man.

• 53:26Speaker 11

  Oh, yeah?

• 53:26Speaker 12

  And tell, because you're, no, this is what I'm gonna say, like I said, I don't, I don't wanna hurt your feelings, but I want you to be a strong enough man to say, I'm not gonna let her hurt my feelings. I'm gonna tell her what really happened, because you're full of, okay, no offense. The story that you're giving isn't matching up to our scene. If we can explain it, it makes sense, it doesn't mean you're in trouble or did anything wrong. Me, I'm not personally judging you, I could give two, okay?

• 53:52Speaker 11

  I understand.

• 53:52Speaker 12

  But I'm telling you what it looks like, and what it's gonna look like to anybody else. So we need to just explain everything. And what you're telling us, it's not matching up.

• 54:01Speaker 11

  We've got a bunch of evidence, and so like I told you, I'm putting this puzzle together, and the only person whose pieces don't seem to be matching right now are you and Michelle's. Everybody that we've talked to at the apartments, their pieces all match. They match the physical evidence that we have, they, they match the witness evidence that we have. What I want to know is what you and Michelle's involvement was, whether, no matter how hard, listen to me, stop. That's, again, when you start to jump in on me like that? I won't say that until you let me finish. Okay. It makes me think that you're being deceptive with me. Okay, well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry that you hear this.

• 54:37Speaker 11

  When you...

• 54:41Speaker 11

  You've already said and you've agreed with us. There's no way that the things that happened to Victoria could have happened to her without somebody hearing. Now whether she was screaming or not, she didn't have to be screaming.

• 54:57Speaker 11

  She didn't have to be screaming. Just the noise alone of what was done to her body would have woken anybody up. And it woke up every apartment in your building. Except for the only people that are supposedly not awake are you and Michelle, okay? According to you. And that's, I'm just telling you what I'm being told. So do you, do you see when I have people in apartments telling me that they wake up and they hear banging, something being drug in an apartment, they hear screaming from a little girl, mind you, and they hear adults arguing. So I believe that you guys were arguing. I believe that there was a fight.

• 55:40Speaker 11

  Now, I also think that some of the filler in there that you've told me is bull just straight up. And I understand you're scared, okay? There's a little girl that's dead in an apartment, and I don't blame you for being scared. To be honest, on a lot of those, I don't blame you for lying about stuff if you're lying. And here's why. It's a natural, listen, it's a natural human reaction in the situation that you're in to protect yourself. This isn't some stolen TV or somebody that got a bullet wound in their arm. This is a dead ten-year-old girl and I'm taking that as serious as I possibly can, okay? We're gonna talk to Michelle. They're talking to her right now. I have a little bit of information like I told you of what she said.

• 56:23Speaker 11

  And it's already conflicted with what you said on some point and you're trying to clarify that for me. I appreciate that. We're also gonna talk to Jess, okay? Now here's the problem. If the story you're telling us doesn't quite match the evidence, and Jess comes in here and tells me a story that does match the evidence, and for whatever reason she implicates you in the murder.

• 56:46Speaker 11

  But telling, being honest with you, then that's not, then you're gonna get wrapped up in this. This is your one and only opportunity, and I'm serious, to tell us the truth. If you saw Victoria dead and it freaked you out and you ran out, then it is what it is, okay? If you helped clean up the blood and whatever, you helped, you helped try and get rid of her, whatever it was, this is the time, listen, this is your only time for redemption. This is your only, you might have to own up to the consequences. You, you, listen, you might have to man up to that, and I'm not gonna lie to you, but this is your only time to come clean, because once we walk out of this room,

• 57:26Speaker 11

  and we put Jess in this room, if she tells us a story that makes a lot more sense with the evidence, the physical evidence, and it implicates you and it makes you the bad guy, you're gonna be the bad guy.

• 57:39Colin Brown?

  If you love murder in America, you love mysteries, you love true crime, you love murder stories and the unknown, then I have a new show for you. It's called The Conspiracy Files, and it's hosted by me, Colin Brown, from Murder in America and The Paranormal Files. On The Conspiracy Files, we explore everything from bizarre deaths to freak paranormal events, pedophile rings, government corruption, ritual sacrifice. No topic is untouched on this show. Everything that we talk about on The Conspiracy Files is backed up with fact. I release reference sheets with every single episode that we do, so you guys know everything we're talking about is confirmed to have happened and be real.

• 58:21Colin Brown?

  It's a completely different type of show than anything else you've ever seen about conspiracy theories. Instead of a bunch of conjecture and theories, we're presenting you people with facts, telling you the story, walking you through the story just as detailed as we do with Murder in America, and then letting the listener decide what they think. Anyways, you should definitely give it a listen. It's called The Conspiracy Files. The links are in the description of this show, and you can find it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And now, let's get back to our story.

• 58:56Courtney Brown?

  Now Fabian didn't know that his cousin Jessica Kelly had already asked for an attorney. So from here, investigators worked hard to get answers from Fabian and Michelle. And anytime there's a dead child, investigators have to consider a motive. Why would somebody want this child dead? And sadly, something they have to consider is that the child had been sexually assaulted. And given that Fabian had only known Michelle and Victoria for a few weeks, and had been living with them, that's the motive they were suspecting here. That Fabian had raped Victoria and then killed her to cover it up.

• 59:35Speaker 12

  You know, let me do this like something. I know that sometimes people do really, you know, things that get them off and maybe get them off. Even that they're more embarrassed of what the public's gonna think. But that stuff's pretty private, okay? And I understand that if, you know, there were two girls, and you guys are getting high, and it gets people off to hurt a little girl. I mean, it happens before, because let me tell you.

• 1:00:06Speaker 10

  Come on.

• 1:00:06Speaker 12

  Hey, hey.

• 1:00:07Speaker 10

  This is, that's sick, that's disgusting, that's gross.

• 1:00:10Speaker 12

  But.

• 1:00:11Speaker 10

  That's very.

• 1:00:12Speaker 12

  You're putting this on your cousin. I'm not buying it.

• 1:00:16Colin Brown?

  Now, at the time of Fabian's interview, Michelle Martins is also being interviewed. And she's being a lot more open about what happened on August 23rd, her daughter's 10th birthday.

• 1:00:26Speaker 12

  Victoria's birthday was.

• 1:00:28Speaker 14

  Just yesterday.

• 1:00:29Speaker 12

  Just yesterday, right? Okay. And what were you guys gonna do for Victoria's birthday?

• 1:00:34Speaker 14

  We were gonna celebrate it today.

• 1:00:36Speaker 12

  Okay. What was the, did you guys have a plan?

• 1:00:38Speaker 14

  The Parkabout.

• 1:00:40Speaker 12

  The park?

• 1:00:41Speaker 14

  At the Parkabout, it's up at your mansion.

• 1:00:43Speaker 12

  Okay.

• 1:00:45Speaker 10

  Nice.

• 1:00:46Speaker 12

  Were you guys just, we just had friends and cake?

• 1:00:49Speaker 14

  Yeah.

• 1:00:49Speaker 12

  Okay. How do you, I mean, does that make you, it's hard, huh?

• 1:00:57Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:00:59Speaker 14

  She was your baby?

• 1:01:01Speaker 15

  I can't imagine my mother and father know I have to.

• 1:01:05Speaker 14

  Why, why'd you name her Victoria?

• 1:01:07Speaker 15

  Okay, they said if I had a girl, I'd name her Victoria.

• 1:01:10Speaker 14

  Okay, and she was ten, just turned ten? Yeah. What were some of her favorite things to do?

• 1:01:17Speaker 15

  Color, math.

• 1:01:18Speaker 14

  Math?

• 1:01:19Speaker 15

  Gymnastics.

• 1:01:22Speaker 14

  Gymnastics, okay. What, does she do like tumbling and gymnastics? Wow. You're gonna miss her.

• 1:01:31Speaker 15

  Yeah. I'm just worried about my son.

• 1:01:35Speaker 14

  Well, and, and I want you to be able to be there for your son. Okay?

• 1:01:41Speaker 15

  I'm worried about my life now too.

• 1:01:43Speaker 14

  Well. Can you kind of tell me why you're worried?

• 1:01:49Speaker 15

  Because now I'm afraid they're gonna come back and kill me. I don't even wanna stay home now.

• 1:01:52Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:01:53Speaker 15

  I wanna get out of there.

• 1:01:55Courtney Brown?

  So from here, the detectives wanna know how Victoria died. And Michelle starts telling them a story about how she believed Victoria somehow got into their meth supply.

• 1:02:06Speaker 14

  Can we explain to you that again? What time did, um, Victoria come home? And when did you notice?

• 1:02:14Speaker 15

  She gets home about 4:30, because the bus gets there about 4:00. So she went to her friend's house, because she didn't see me at the bus stop. And her friend sent her back to the house around 4:30, 4:45, around there. Then that's about the time that me and Fabian, we got back about 4:50, 5 o'clock. Okay. Around there.

• 1:02:37Speaker 14

  And where were you and Fabian at?

• 1:02:38Speaker 15

  We went to his uncle's.

• 1:02:39Speaker 14

  Okay. Okay.

• 1:02:41Speaker 15

  And, um,

• 1:02:43Speaker 15

  we came back and that's when something was on the table.

• 1:02:49Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:02:53Speaker 14

  Take your time.

• 1:02:55Speaker 15

  Then we teamed the restroom.

• 1:02:57Speaker 14

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:58Speaker 15

  And I came back and it was gone. And Victoria was the only one in the living room.

• 1:03:04Speaker 15

  So then she said she started feeling tired, so she was gonna go to bed.

• 1:03:08Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:03:10Speaker 15

  So she went in there.

• 1:03:14Speaker 14

  Turn into the program.

• 1:03:16Speaker 16

  Okay. Never came back up.

• 1:03:19Speaker 14

  Okay. Did you, what happened, what happened next? Did you go check on it?

• 1:03:25Speaker 16

  I always checked. When I checked on her, she seemed to be breathing. And I checked, I always look at her stomach. See it was going up and down.

• 1:03:41Speaker 16

  And that was the last time that I checked on her.

• 1:03:43Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:03:44Speaker 16

  Fabian said he was gonna go check on her for me.

• 1:03:48Speaker 16

  So, he wants to go check on her. And that was the time she got some breathing. And that's what he told me. She's got breathing.

• 1:03:58Courtney Brown?

  Michelle said that once they all realized Victoria was dead, Jessica grabbed a kitchen knife and started walking towards Victoria's bedroom. When Michelle asked what she was doing, Jessica turned and told her that she was going to dispose of the body.

• 1:04:14Speaker 14

  And what did you do?

• 1:04:17Speaker 16

  I got up and, what do you mean, she's not breathing?

• 1:04:24Speaker 16

  And then I looked up to her, but didn't notice that the bag was, I was like, did she gonna hold that?

• 1:04:33Speaker 16

  And then she might have.

• 1:04:36Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:04:36Speaker 16

  I was like, oh, see anything there?

• 1:04:40Speaker 14

  And where was, where was the bag at?

• 1:04:43Speaker 16

  At the living room table, coffee table.

• 1:04:46Speaker 14

  And when you, did you ever see it after it went missing?

• 1:04:49Speaker 16

  No.

• 1:04:50Speaker 14

  No, okay.

• 1:04:50Speaker 16

  So, I went to get the knife. And I asked him, "Where's she going with that?"

• 1:04:57Speaker 16

  She said, "We're gonna dispose of the body."

• 1:05:01Speaker 14

  So let's back up just a little bit, okay? Because you're missing, you're skipping around. So Fabian tells you she's not breathing. Did you go check on her?

• 1:05:12Speaker 16

  I did.

• 1:05:13Speaker 14

  Great. And tell me about that. What did you see?

• 1:05:17Speaker 16

  Just her laying there.

• 1:05:19Speaker 14

  Great.

• 1:05:22Speaker 16

  I didn't know what to do. I never wanna call the cops because then they probably would've stopped, stopped me from trying to do that.

• 1:05:31Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:05:33Speaker 16

  I didn't know what to do.

• 1:05:36Speaker 14

  There's another reason that you didn't call the police though, isn't there? Why didn't you call police?

• 1:05:42Speaker 16

  Because there was drugs in the house.

• 1:05:43Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:05:45Speaker 16

  And I didn't want them to think it was mine because it's not.

• 1:05:48Speaker 14

  Okay, I understand. I understand. That I understand. Okay. I, I mean, there's drugs in the house. You don't wanna get in trouble.

• 1:05:56Speaker 16

  Okay.

• 1:05:57Speaker 14

  Um, okay, so you checked on your daughter.

• 1:06:02Speaker 14

  And what do you find?

• 1:06:05Speaker 16

  She was, she was really worried.

• 1:06:08Speaker 14

  Okay, was she dead?

• 1:06:10Speaker 16

  She was.

• 1:06:11Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:06:15Speaker 14

  I'm so sorry.

• 1:06:19Speaker 14

  I know that this was, this is not your fault.

• 1:06:24Speaker 16

  I feel like this.

• 1:06:25Speaker 14

  It's not.

• 1:06:27Speaker 16

  That's how they want me to feel.

• 1:06:28Speaker 14

  That, I, that is how they want you to feel. They want you to feel like you did this and it's your fault, but it's not.

• 1:06:34Colin Brown?

  The female detective was trying to comfort Michelle, but not because she felt bad for her, because she wanted Michelle to open up about what really happened. And while holding her hand, Michelle continued.

• 1:06:46Speaker 14

  So let's back up to where you find her and she's dead on the bed. Okay? What happens from there?

• 1:06:59Speaker 14

  There's a conversation between you and Fabian and Jessica.

• 1:07:06Speaker 14

  What is that conversation?

• 1:07:08Speaker 16

  He said if I tell anybody that I'm gonna be the next one.

• 1:07:12Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:07:13Speaker 16

  They'd punish me.

• 1:07:14Speaker 14

  And what did you guys decide to do with your daughter? With Victoria?

• 1:07:22Speaker 14

  Your baby girl. This is your ten-year-old baby girl.

• 1:07:30Speaker 14

  Victoria.

• 1:07:32Speaker 16

  They put her in the bathtub.

• 1:07:34Speaker 14

  Because you were there. And you saw. And you watched. So what was the discussion about what was going to be done with Victoria?

• 1:07:46Speaker 16

  I know they were gonna get rid of her, but I didn't know. I forgot the discussion.

• 1:07:50Speaker 14

  You forgot the discussion?

• 1:07:52Speaker 16

  I don't remember.

• 1:07:53Speaker 14

  Okay. What happened? What happened next?

• 1:07:58Speaker 16

  They said, "Let if I say anything, they just kept threatening me."

• 1:08:02Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:08:02Speaker 16

  "Let if I say anything, I'm gonna be the next one, or I better not fall asleep." So then I just left.

• 1:08:10Speaker 14

  So you left?

• 1:08:12Speaker 16

  With nothing else I could do. I didn't know what to do.

• 1:08:16Speaker 14

  So

• 1:08:18Speaker 14

  from the time you find your daughter and she's dead. Victoria

• 1:08:25Speaker 14

  is dead in her room, am I right?

• 1:08:29Speaker 14

  And then you leave. What happened in between that time?

• 1:08:36Speaker 16

  Before that, that was the time I saw Jessica stabbing her in the stomach.

• 1:08:41Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:08:42Speaker 16

  And then with the pillow over her head.

• 1:08:44Speaker 14

  So, explain the whole pillow over her head. What, what was that for?

• 1:08:51Speaker 16

  Because it's a grip to hold her hands.

• 1:08:55Speaker 14

  So was she already dead?

• 1:08:58Speaker 14

  Oh, okay.

• 1:09:00Speaker 14

  So you see her and she's, can you kind of explain to me she's holding her hands?

• 1:09:07Speaker 16

  Jessica's holding her hands and Fabian was cutting her.

• 1:09:12Speaker 14

  So they were cutting her arms off in the bedroom?

• 1:09:15Speaker 16

  Okay, I'm gonna go in the bathtub.

• 1:09:17Speaker 14

  Okay. When did they start cutting her leg off?

• 1:09:22Speaker 16

  After her burn.

• 1:09:24Speaker 14

  After her?

• 1:09:26Speaker 14

  Okay. So what you're saying is Jessica was holding her arms and Fabian was cutting? Okay. Who? So Fabian had the knife at that point? Okay.

• 1:09:42Speaker 14

  But you said that Jessica stabbed her in the stomach? Okay, why?

• 1:09:48Speaker 16

  It's like they were taking turns at her.

• 1:09:51Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:09:54Speaker 14

  And when you saw this, you didn't call 911 because you were afraid that the cops were gonna know that there were drugs in the house?

• 1:10:04Speaker 16

  That they were gonna kill me right there on the spot.

• 1:10:07Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:10:08Courtney Brown?

  So Michelle just said that after finding Victoria dead, Jessica and Fabian started the dismemberment in Victoria's bedroom. Jessica was holding Victoria's arms while Fabian cut them off. Then they put Victoria in the bathtub.

• 1:10:25Speaker 14

  So you guys, or you watch, but Jessica and Fabian cut your daughter up, Victoria. They cut her arms off, they cut her leg off, they cut her from human here, Victoria. They cut her.

• 1:10:44Speaker 14

  And you watch, right?

• 1:10:46Speaker 16

  I couldn't. After I saw that you were starting to cut her arms, I left.

• 1:10:51Speaker 14

  What do you mean you left?

• 1:10:52Speaker 16

  I went on something.

• 1:10:54Speaker 14

  Okay. So explain to me what happened after that. You guys started cleaning up?

• 1:11:01Speaker 16

  They started cleaning up.

• 1:11:03Speaker 14

  What did you do?

• 1:11:08Speaker 16

  I went in the kitchen.

• 1:11:11Speaker 14

  What did you do in the kitchen?

• 1:11:12Speaker 16

  Getting ready to make dinner. Making the tacos. And then Fabian took over after he was finished.

• 1:11:19Speaker 14

  After you guys cut the arms off of Victoria, cut her leg off,

• 1:11:25Speaker 14

  and wrapped her up in a blanket and put her in the bathtub, right? Then you went and made dinner. And what did Jessica and Fabian do?

• 1:11:35Speaker 16

  I feel like nothing ever happened.

• 1:11:37Speaker 14

  Okay. So where did they cut her up at?

• 1:11:40Speaker 16

  The bathtub.

• 1:11:41Speaker 14

  In the bathtub? So where did they cut her arms off at?

• 1:11:46Speaker 16

  In the bedroom.

• 1:11:46Speaker 14

  In the bedroom. Okay. Did you, when they were cutting her up,

• 1:11:54Speaker 14

  Victoria, did you ever touch Victoria or hold on to her? Hold her arm? Did you ever hold her steady?

• 1:12:01Speaker 16

  They were saying if I go near them, that they're gonna kill me too.

• 1:12:06Speaker 14

  Okay. So...

• 1:12:09Speaker 14

  You go and make dinner. Okay, and they are clean.

• 1:12:16Speaker 14

  And then what happens after that?

• 1:12:20Speaker 16

  What to do is then I go back to my room and I eat.

• 1:12:24Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:12:24Speaker 16

  And I really want to go.

• 1:12:26Speaker 14

  Well, because you were probably sick to your stomach.

• 1:12:28Speaker 16

  I'm a girl.

• 1:12:29Speaker 14

  Yeah, I can.

• 1:12:30Speaker 16

  I'm also. So then I put the other one in the fridge.

• 1:12:33Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:12:34Speaker 16

  And then that's when I got back in the room. And I went to try my dad.

• 1:12:41Colin Brown?

  So after watching her daughter get dismembered, Michelle said that she made everyone tacos. Then she went into her room to get some sleep. Disturbingly, Michelle also admits that she and Fabian had sex that night after the dismemberment.

• 1:12:56Speaker 14

  When did you and Fabian have intercourse? And was it forced? Or?

• 1:13:03Speaker 16

  It wasn't forced.

• 1:13:04Speaker 14

  Okay, so when did you guys have?

• 1:13:06Speaker 16

  It was before we went to bed.

• 1:13:08Speaker 14

  Before you went to bed? Was it before or after you ate?

• 1:13:12Speaker 16

  Ask him.

• 1:13:12Speaker 14

  After you ate? Okay.

• 1:13:14Colin Brown?

  Michelle said that after that, she went to sleep. The next thing she knew, Jessica was in her room holding a tire iron. According to Michelle, Jessica feared that she would tell someone what happened. And while in the bedroom, Jessica chillingly asked her, "Do you believe in God?" Michelle said that she knew right then that Jessica was trying to kill her.

• 1:13:34Courtney Brown?

  But as you know, in these interrogations, the detectives will make you walk through every single detail. And as they did this with Michelle, her story kept changing. First, she said that Victoria ingested meth that was sitting out on the table. But then later on, she said that Jessica killed Victoria. So her story wasn't matching up. The detectives had a feeling that the meth story just wasn't true. And it wasn't. Victoria's autopsy would later prove that she didn't have any meth in her system. And the detectives believed that Victoria was likely murdered to cover something up. So they straight up asked Michelle if Victoria had been raped.

• 1:14:16Speaker 14

  One question, and it's a very serious question. Okay. Who was raping your daughter? Who was assaulting your daughter?

• 1:14:26Speaker 15

  She said she was-

• 1:14:27Speaker 14

  Who was sexually assaulting your daughter Michelle? Because you knew about it.

• 1:14:32Speaker 15

  That was my ex-boyfriend.

• 1:14:33Speaker 14

  That was your ex-boyfriend?

• 1:14:34Speaker 15

  Yes, and that's why I got rid of him.

• 1:14:36Speaker 14

  What's his name?

• 1:14:37Speaker 15

  David Hernandez.

• 1:14:39Courtney Brown?

  Now David Hernandez was the boyfriend Michelle had before Fabian, the one that cornered Victoria and tried to kiss her. It's also the man who kidnapped a four-year-old girl off the street. But according to Michelle, he was the only one who had raped Victoria. However, after a little prodding, she admitted that he wasn't the only one, that Jessica and Fabian had been raping her as well. She even said that they would give Victoria meth beforehand to quote, "calm her down."

• 1:15:11Speaker 14

  When did you find out that Fabian and Jessica were actively with your daughter?

• 1:15:19Speaker 14

  When did you find out?

• 1:15:23Speaker 14

  And be honest.

• 1:15:25Speaker 15

  Not too long ago.

• 1:15:26Speaker 14

  Not too long ago, okay.

• 1:15:28Speaker 15

  If I would've known that, I would've totally get out.

• 1:15:31Speaker 14

  So, how much were they giving her so that way they could be assaulted?

• 1:15:43Speaker 15

  Quite a few.

• 1:15:45Speaker 14

  They gave it to her quite a few times? Okay. Oh, they gave it to her?

• 1:15:51Speaker 15

  They just put it in her mouth?

• 1:15:53Speaker 14

  When did you find out that Fabian was having sex with your daughter? With Victoria? How long ago?

• 1:16:03Speaker 15

  Just recently.

• 1:16:04Speaker 14

  Just recently? What is recently? Like, days, weeks?

• 1:16:07Speaker 15

  Days.

• 1:16:07Speaker 14

  Days? Like, a couple of days, like, two days, three days, four days, five days?

• 1:16:13Speaker 15

  Two.

• 1:16:13Speaker 14

  Two days, okay? And when did you find out that Jessica was also assaulting your daughter?

• 1:16:22Speaker 14

  Were they doing this together?

• 1:16:24Speaker 15

  Yes.

• 1:16:25Speaker 14

  Okay.

• 1:16:27Courtney Brown?

  But as if this couldn't get any more disturbing, Michelle then admits that she wasn't just aware Jessica and Fabian were raping Victoria, but she would actually sit in the room and watch as it happened.

• 1:16:41Speaker 14

  You were there. When your daughter was being assaulted, you were there. Where were you?

• 1:16:47Speaker 15

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:16:49Speaker 14

  You were in the bedroom.

• 1:16:52Speaker 14

  In your bedroom or your daughter's bedroom?

• 1:16:56Speaker 15

  My bedroom.

• 1:16:57Speaker 14

  Okay, and where were Fabian and Jessica?

• 1:17:01Speaker 15

  I thought they were having a cigarette, but they weren't.

• 1:17:05Speaker 14

  What were they doing?

• 1:17:06Speaker 11

  No, no, no, no. You watched them give them her and you knew what they were gonna do. Don't, don't play, let's not start playing games now, girl. They weren't having a cigarette, you knew they were hitting your daughter. Where were they hitting your daughter? What room?

• 1:17:21Speaker 15

  In her room.

• 1:17:23Speaker 11

  Okay.

• 1:17:24Speaker 14

  How did you participate? I don't think that you assaulted your daughter. Did you help hold her down?

• 1:17:32Speaker 14

  You, and I appreciate you being honest about what Jessica and Fabian have done. Okay?

• 1:17:40Speaker 14

  But the only thing that you're not being honest about is your involvement.

• 1:17:47Speaker 14

  Okay?

• 1:17:49Speaker 14

  So, when Jessica and Fabian were in the room assaulting your daughter, what part did you take in that act?

• 1:18:05Speaker 15

  I let them do it.

• 1:18:06Speaker 14

  You let them do it?

• 1:18:08Speaker 15

  I shouldn't have done it.

• 1:18:09Speaker 11

  Were you, were you having intercourse with Fabian or Jessica while they had sex with your daughter?

• 1:18:15Speaker 15

  No.

• 1:18:16Speaker 14

  Did Fabian, did you have Fabian right after he had sex with your daughter?

• 1:18:22Speaker 15

  Yes.

• 1:18:25Speaker 11

  Did Fabian put his in your daughter's or in any other part of her body? Her mouth or her?

• 1:18:36Speaker 16

  I could see.

• 1:18:37Speaker 11

  What was he doing to her? I need to know.

• 1:18:39Speaker 16

  He was going on top of her.

• 1:18:42Speaker 11

  With what?

• 1:18:43Speaker 16

  With his on top.

• 1:18:46Speaker 14

  Did he, did he put his in your daughter?

• 1:18:49Speaker 16

  Not inside though.

• 1:18:51Speaker 11

  Was he rubbing it in the lips of her?

• 1:18:53Speaker 16

  Yes.

• 1:18:55Speaker 11

  So it penetrated, so penetrated the lips of her? Was he completely naked or was he clothed?

• 1:19:02Speaker 16

  He had his shorts, tell me his shirt off.

• 1:19:06Speaker 11

  And what was Jessica doing to your daughter?

• 1:19:08Speaker 16

  She was holding her.

• 1:19:10Speaker 11

  How?

• 1:19:12Speaker 16

  Her arms and her shoulders, so and her feet. Fabian was holding her feet.

• 1:19:19Speaker 14

  What were you holding?

• 1:19:22Speaker 14

  What were you holding? Be honest.

• 1:19:28Speaker 16

  I'll be honest.

• 1:19:29Speaker 14

  So you just watched?

• 1:19:33Speaker 14

  Yeah. You just watched, but you didn't, you didn't help hold her down?

• 1:19:37Speaker 16

  No.

• 1:19:40Speaker 11

  Did you, while they were doing this, did you have any physical contact with Jessica? Or Fabian or your daughter? Of any sort?

• 1:19:48Speaker 16

  No.

• 1:19:49Speaker 11

  Did Fabian on or inside your daughter?

• 1:19:52Speaker 16

  On.

• 1:19:53Speaker 11

  On?

• 1:19:57Speaker 11

  Was your daughter saying anything?

• 1:19:58Speaker 16

  Stop, stop.

• 1:20:01Speaker 11

  What was Jessica saying?

• 1:20:03Speaker 16

  Just shut up.

• 1:20:04Speaker 11

  And was Fabian steady?

• 1:20:07Speaker 16

  He wasn't really steady. He was just...

• 1:20:10Speaker 11

  And you just stood there and watched? You just let them do this to your daughter?

• 1:20:17Speaker 11

  Yes?

• 1:20:18Speaker 16

  I should have stopped there.

• 1:20:21Speaker 11

  And then how long after he did on your daughter, did he have sex with you?

• 1:20:26Speaker 16

  Fifteen, twenty minutes.

• 1:20:29Speaker 11

  How long was Victoria alive? After she was, or was she dead after she was, did they kill her then?

• 1:20:39Speaker 11

  I need to know.

• 1:20:40Speaker 16

  Yes.

• 1:20:41Speaker 11

  Yes to what?

• 1:20:42Speaker 16

  They killed.

• 1:20:43Speaker 11

  When? When they raped her? And how did they kill her?

• 1:20:48Speaker 14

  You were there, you watched it.

• 1:20:51Speaker 16

  I know.

• 1:20:55Speaker 11

  Explain it to me, I don't understand.

• 1:20:59Speaker 11

  He raped her so hard she died?

• 1:21:05Speaker 16

  He covered her mouth.

• 1:21:06Speaker 11

  With what?

• 1:21:09Speaker 11

  Okay. I thought you said she was screaming.

• 1:21:13Speaker 16

  She finally got the goodest thing, mouth tape. If he gets what?

• 1:21:17Speaker 14

  Michelle, stop. Let's go back to when we were being honest.

• 1:21:23Speaker 14

  This is your girl that you killed.

• 1:21:28Speaker 14

  Who is being held down on a bed so an adult man can...

• 1:21:35Speaker 11

  ...her. Who killed her?

• 1:21:37Speaker 16

  Fabian and Jessica.

• 1:21:39Speaker 11

  How did Fabian and Jessica kill Victoria?

• 1:21:43Speaker 11

  Michelle? How did they kill your daughter?

• 1:21:49Speaker 16

  They were holding her down.

• 1:21:50Speaker 14

  How, how were they holding her down? Because if I hold on to Cory's arms, it's not gonna kill him.

• 1:21:59Speaker 14

  Where were they holding her?

• 1:22:01Speaker 16

  I don't know.

• 1:22:04Speaker 11

  Whose hands were on her neck?

• 1:22:06Speaker 16

  Fabian's hands because he was on top of her.

• 1:22:09Speaker 11

  And whose hand was on her mouth?

• 1:22:11Speaker 16

  Jessica.

• 1:22:14Speaker 11

  When he was done, when he did on your daughter, was she dead already? Or was she still alive?

• 1:22:22Speaker 16

  She was moving.

• 1:22:25Speaker 11

  After he was done, did they do anything to ensure that she was dead? What did they do to make sure that she was dead, Michelle?

• 1:22:35Speaker 11

  No, that's not good enough. What did they do when they were done with your daughter and holding her by her neck?

• 1:22:44Speaker 11

  We're way past playing any games here, girl. Did they do anything?

• 1:22:48Speaker 16

  This.

• 1:22:51Speaker 14

  When you guys started having with Victoria, where did it start? In the living room or in the bedroom?

• 1:23:02Speaker 16

  In the bedroom.

• 1:23:05Speaker 14

  Who's bedroom?

• 1:23:09Speaker 15

  It hurts.

• 1:23:12Speaker 11

  Michelle, were you clothed or were you naked?

• 1:23:15Speaker 15

  I was clothed.

• 1:23:17Speaker 11

  Was Jessica clothed or was she naked?

• 1:23:20Speaker 15

  She had her top off.

• 1:23:23Speaker 11

  But Fabian, you said he had his shorts on with his [BEEP] exposed?

• 1:23:27Speaker 15

  He had the top, he had the top down, but he had no shirt on.

• 1:23:30Speaker 11

  And was Victoria?

• 1:23:32Speaker 15

  Yeah, she had her pants on.

• 1:23:34Speaker 11

  Who took Victoria's clothes off?

• 1:23:38Speaker 15

  I took the pants off. Jessica took her shirt off.

• 1:23:44Speaker 14

  What did you do with her underwear?

• 1:23:48Speaker 14

  What did you do with Victoria's underwear?

• 1:23:50Speaker 15

  Took him, put him in the laundry basket.

• 1:23:52Speaker 14

  You took him and you put him in the laundry basket? Why? What was on them?

• 1:23:57Speaker 15

  Blood.

• 1:23:58Speaker 14

  What else?

• 1:23:59Speaker 15

  Blood.

• 1:24:01Speaker 14

  And why was there blood on them?

• 1:24:03Speaker 15

  Because he penetrated.

• 1:24:04Speaker 14

  Because he penetrated her?

• 1:24:10Speaker 11

  And then 20 minutes later, you had [BEEP] with Fabian?

• 1:24:14Colin Brown?

  The detectives then confront Michelle with a disturbing statement that this wasn't the first time she had let men rape her daughter.

• 1:24:22Speaker 14

  Michelle,

• 1:24:24Speaker 14

  you have been bringing men to your apartment

• 1:24:28Speaker 14

  to use your daughter and [BEEP] assault your daughter. This is not the first time that this has happened. This is not the first time that your daughter has been assaulted. I'm just gonna use the word, cuz that's what it is. You were allowing men to come over and have [BEEP] with your daughter. And in turn, also having [BEEP] with you. Help me understand that.

• 1:24:58Speaker 11

  What'd you get out of it? Is it a turn-on for you?

• 1:25:00Speaker 15

  No.

• 1:25:02Speaker 14

  Then help-

• 1:25:03Speaker 15

  Cuz I wouldn't have did that to my daughter.

• 1:25:05Speaker 11

  But you did, last night. And the only reason that we're sitting here today, Michelle, is that it went a little further than it ever has before. This time, she died.

• 1:25:16Speaker 11

  You weren't ready for the type of animals that these people were.

• 1:25:21Speaker 11

  And it went further than you anticipated.

• 1:25:24Speaker 11

  Let's start with this. How many times that what happened last night, mine and her dying? How many times have you watched or or that you know that Fabian and Jessica have had with your daughter since they've been in your house? How many times?

• 1:25:38Speaker 15

  Three times.

• 1:25:41Speaker 14

  I think it's probably more than that.

• 1:25:42Speaker 11

  That you watched?

• 1:25:44Speaker 15

  That I know about.

• 1:25:45Speaker 11

  How many times did you watch?

• 1:25:48Speaker 15

  There was only that one.

• 1:25:49Speaker 14

  How many times did you watch?

• 1:25:52Speaker 14

  Be honest.

• 1:25:53Speaker 11

  Michelle. We know you watched. How many times did you watch? Every time?

• 1:25:59Speaker 15

  Mostly.

• 1:26:02Speaker 11

  Have come into your house and had sex with your daughter? Why do you watch? I need to know.

• 1:26:10Speaker 11

  Like I said, Victoria is dead. The only thing we have anymore is to bring her justice.

• 1:26:17Speaker 14

  Yeah.

• 1:26:19Speaker 11

  And to be frank with you, by the sound of the things that she was experiencing, it sounds like death was the easy way out for her. Because it sounds like some pretty big horrible things have happened to her in her life. Human being to human being. How many other men are out there that have come into your house and have had sex with your daughter or your son? How many men have come into your house and had sex with your daughter while you watched?

• 1:26:47Speaker 14

  We have David. And we have Fabian. Who else?

• 1:26:51Speaker 11

  And men or women? Let's put it that way.

• 1:26:54Speaker 15

  I don't have friends with much women.

• 1:26:56Speaker 14

  Okay, so men. We have David. And we know Fabian. Who else?

• 1:27:01Speaker 15

  There's one that look like Joshua.

• 1:27:02Speaker 14

  Joshua what?

• 1:27:06Speaker 15

  Gray.

• 1:27:07Speaker 14

  And how many times

• 1:27:11Speaker 14

  did he come over and have sex with your daughter? One, let's see. How many times did he come over and have with your daughter? One. One time.

• 1:27:23Courtney Brown?

  So during this interrogation, Michelle Martins revealed the horrifying reality that Victoria had been living in, where she would invite men over to rape her 10-year-old daughter. To the detectives, it was clear that this is exactly how Victoria died. Michelle started dating Fabian, he moved in with them along with his cousin Jessica, and they started raping Michelle's daughter. However, on August 23rd, they took it too far. During the assault on Victoria's 10th birthday, she died, likely by strangulation. Then to cover up their crime, they spent the night dismembering Victoria's body. However, early that morning, Fabian,

• 1:28:07Courtney Brown?

  Michelle, and Jessica began to turn on each other, and soon enough, everything would be revealed. Now, even though Michelle confessed to everything, Fabian was still adamantly denying all of it, but that didn't matter. Michelle's confession was enough. So from there, the three of them were arrested and charged with first-degree murder, kidnapping, child abuse resulting in death, intentional child abuse, and tampering with evidence. All three were held on a $1 million cash bond.

• 1:28:40Colin Brown?

  Following the murder, Albuquerque Police Chief Gordon Elder Jr. stated, "This homicide is the most gruesome act of evil I have ever seen in my career. A complete disregard for human life and a betrayal by a mother." Now, soon after Michelle Martins' arrest, her parents found out what had happened, and they were completely shocked. They had just spoken to Victoria on the phone to wish her a happy birthday. So, never in a million years did they expect to get this news. And when they heard the details, they were beside themselves. According to them, Michelle had been a good mother, but all of that changed when Fabian and Jessica stepped into the picture. Her parents said, "Michelle didn't change until these people inducted themselves into her life. What kind of power they had over her, I don't know. We didn't know our daughter

• 1:29:24Colin Brown?

  to be anybody that would do something like this. And if there's evidence and she's found guilty, then she deserves to be punished." As for Victoria, they claimed that she never mentioned sexual or physical abuse and always seemed happy. They believed she may have stayed quiet because of her love for her mother. Pat stated, "It's probably why she never said nothing. She didn't want to get her in trouble." Now, when the word spread that a 10-year-old girl had been brutally murdered, the community of Albuquerque was completely devastated. On August 26th, friends and neighbors built a memorial underneath a tree outside the Arroyo Villa's apartment. It was filled with teddy bears, flowers, and candles. People hugged, prayed, and cried as they remembered

• 1:30:05Colin Brown?

  the life of Victoria. Some even sang "Happy Birthday" as it was the day of her birthday when she had been brutally killed.

• 1:30:13Speaker 17

  Doug and Shelley, it's unsurprisingly a very emotional scene here at Arroyo Villa's apartment complex. People, as you said, placing flowers and stuffed animals, saying prayers. There have been a lot of tears today as New Mexico mourns.

• 1:30:24Colin Brown?

  Soon after, another memorial was erected at Petroglyph Elementary School, and school officials issued a statement that read, "Victoria is in our thoughts and prayers as we hold our children just a little tighter on this sad day." On August 29th, 2016, hundreds gathered for a public funeral service for Victoria held at the Copper Point Church. Motorcycle officers escorted a white hearse that contained her remains. Mourners donned in purple attire, Victoria's favorite color, to honor and remember her short life. Her body was cremated, and the remains were given to her grandparents.

• 1:31:03Speaker 18

  Songs of worship filled Copper Point Church Saturday.

• 1:31:10Speaker 18

  A fitting way to remember 10-year-old Victoria Martins because those who knew her best say she loved to sing.

• 1:31:20Speaker 18

  And she was always full of energy. She would often run around her grandparents' lawn and do her gymnastics. More than 600 people came to celebrate Victoria's life at the public memorial service. Those who knew her.

• 1:31:35Speaker 14

  She was just an amazing girl and I'm so blessed and happy that we got to meet her and got to know her.

• 1:31:41Speaker 18

  And those who wished they did.

• 1:31:43Speaker 10

  They've all described her as having a special spark.

• 1:31:47Speaker 18

  The horrific details of that little girl's death shocked the nation. Victoria was murdered in August, police say by her mother, her mother's boyfriend and his cousin. Governor Martinez, Attorney General Hector Belderes, and APD Chief Gordon Eden all speaking at the service today saying the state must learn from what happened to her.

• 1:32:09Speaker 11

  Let us strengthen our resolve to look out for each other, take care of each other, watch out for those who cannot take care of themselves.

• 1:32:18Speaker 18

  Many people wore purple to the ceremony, which was Victoria's favorite color. Purple teddy bears were also handed out to the children that came. Parents say today was a somber reminder. Hold our kids closer every day. And as the doves released after the service,

• 1:32:37Speaker 18

  flew high into the sky, her loved ones say they're sure Victoria's in a better place.

• 1:32:43Speaker 19

  She was one of God's borrowed angels.

• 1:32:46Speaker 18

  So Young Kim, KRQE News 13.

• 1:32:51Speaker 20

  Seven has uncovered new information about this case, new information that is extremely disturbing. This afternoon, her autopsy was released detailing how the 10-year-old was murdered, her own mother, one of the suspects in Victoria's rape and death.

• 1:33:05Speaker 21

  Our medical expert, Dr. Emo, reviewed the autopsy and says he has never seen one like it. We do want to warn you again, what Target 7's Nancy Lofton found is upsetting.

• 1:33:16Speaker 09

  According to the autopsy report, 10-year-old Victoria was strangled to death. But this also details what medical examiners say happened to her before and after she was killed. KOAT medical expert Dr. Barry Ramo reviewed Victoria Martens's just-released autopsy.

• 1:33:31Speaker 19

  The whole thing is beyond anyone's conception that this could happen, especially to a little 10-year-old child.

• 1:33:39Speaker 09

  The autopsy shows the manner of death: homicide.

• 1:33:42Speaker 19

  This is horrible, but it appears that she died from strangulation.

• 1:33:46Speaker 09

  According to the medical examiner's report, sometime before she was killed, the 10-year-old suffered abuse and contracted a sexually transmitted disease.

• 1:33:54Speaker 19

  There was evidence of sexual abuse, both in terms of rectal trauma, as well as the fact that she had an infection that she'd had for some time, and evidence of a HPV infection.

• 1:34:05Speaker 09

  And according to her autopsy, after she was strangled and killed, Victoria was then stabbed and dismembered. The medical examiner wrote, "Some of her vital organs were found in a plastic bag." The report also says her lifeless body was found wrapped in plastic bags and a cloth that had been set on fire. Her mother, Michelle Martins, is now charged with Victoria's death. Martin's boyfriend, Fabian Gonzalez, is also charged with killing the child. His cousin, Jessica Kelly, is the third suspect in this case. Victoria was killed on August 24th, right around her 10th birthday. The medical examiner said it took months to release this report because of the condition of Victoria's body. Back to you.

• 1:34:46Courtney Brown?

  Now, over the next two years, as investigators continued working the case, Victoria Martens's name was kept alive. At the end of what would have been Victoria's 4th grade year, in May of 2017, her elementary school honored Victoria's life with a special yearbook memorial. Dozens of students wrote personal messages for her. They read things like... I miss you, Victoria. I wish you could be here with me. Thank you, Victoria, for being an amazing friend. I'm happy you're in heaven, flying with the angels. Where her school picture would have been was the image of two purple angel wings. Her school also put up a bench in her honor that reads, quote, "In memory of Victoria Martins."

• 1:35:31Courtney Brown?

  But as 2017 turned to 2018, everyone following this case was ready for justice: to see the perpetrators, Michelle Martins, Fabian Gonzalez, and Jessica Kelly, go to prison for the atrocities they committed. But in 2018, two whole years after Victoria's murder, the DA's office would drop a bombshell. In fact, this is one of the biggest twists I think I've ever heard, and it has to do with the physical evidence found at the scene. You see, over the last two years, investigators had been basing their entire investigation

• 1:36:11Courtney Brown?

  on Michelle's confession. However, as the results of that evidence began to come in, investigators realized that they had it all wrong. As it turns out, there had been semen found on Victoria's body. There was also DNA on her back, her neck, and under her fingernails. But it wasn't Fabian's. It was someone else, an unknown male who wasn't in their system. Even further, during Victoria's autopsy, they determined that she had died somewhere between 7:00 PM and 8:30 PM on August 23rd. And cellphone data actually proved that both

• 1:36:51Courtney Brown?

  Michelle and Fabian were not in the apartment during that time. So, Michelle Martins had given a false confession. There was no meth in Victoria's system, and she and Fabian were not there when Victoria was raped and murdered, like she had claimed. But you know who was in the apartment during that time? Fabian's cousin, Jessica Kelly. Now, the morning after the murder, right after Jessica had jumped off their second-story balcony, she briefly mentioned something about a random man coming into the apartment the day before. But then shortly after that, she lawyered up. Then Michelle gave her story of what happened, and investigators thought they knew the truth, but they couldn't have been more wrong.

• 1:37:36Colin Brown?

  When confronted with this new evidence that proved Michelle and Fabian were not present during Victoria's rape and murder, the DA's office had no choice but to drop their murder charges.

• 1:37:46Speaker 22

  Investigators are looking for an unidentified man connected to the murder of 10-year-old Victoria Martins.

• 1:37:52Speaker 23

  The unidentified male, whose partial DNA profile was recovered from Victoria Martins' body, and who remains at large.

• 1:38:00Speaker 22

  In August 2016, police arrested these three suspects: the girl's mother, Michelle Martins', her boyfriend Fabian Gonzalez, and Fabian's cousin, Jessica Kelly. They were each charged with murdering the 10-year-old. On Friday, District Attorney Raul Torres announced Fabian and Michelle Martins' murder charges were dropped.

• 1:38:18Speaker 23

  We were forced to consider the possibility that Michelle Martins had falsely incriminated herself and Fabian Gonzalez in this heinous act.

• 1:38:27Colin Brown?

  Now, even though they had still not caught Victoria's killer, Fabian Gonzalez would go to trial for his part in the crime. As with Michelle Martins', the first-degree murder and rape charges were dropped, but he still faced charges of reckless child abuse resulting in death, tampering with evidence, and conspiracy to tamper with evidence. And like with any trial, the prosecution would paint the story of what they believed happened. And one of their witnesses was Jessica Kelly, Fabian's cousin. So, based on what was said at trial, we're going to go back to the night of August 23rd, 2016.

• 1:39:03Courtney Brown?

  Like we mentioned, Michelle and Fabian had been going in and out of their apartment that entire day. It didn't matter that it was Victoria's 10th birthday. They had better things to do, like doing drugs and running around town, meeting up with different people. And while they were busy doing that, they left Victoria and Jessica Kelly's care. Now, both Fabian and Michelle knew that Jessica had been extremely paranoid. In fact, she hadn't left the apartment in days because she was scared that someone was coming after her. After smoking meth that morning, Jessica was frantically looking out the windows. She kept the front door open so she could see if someone was coming upstairs.

• 1:39:46Courtney Brown?

  And she even called her sister to let her know that her ex-boyfriend was following her, even though he was in prison at the time. But around 7:00 PM, Michelle and Fabian leave the apartment to go smoke some more meth. It's around that same time when the neighbors saw Victoria outside. They also saw Jessica bring her into the apartment, and that was the last time Victoria was ever seen alive. So what happened from there? Well, according to Jessica Kelly, Victoria came inside and put on a pair of pink pajamas. She then ate some sunflower seeds and then went into her bedroom to do some homework. And Jessica said that she just hung out in the living room.

• 1:40:28Courtney Brown?

  But after a few minutes, she said she heard the front door open. When she looked over, there was a random man standing there. Immediately, he asked for "Favo," which was Fabian's street name. Now Jessica said that she had never seen this man before, but he had a Mexican accent. And he told her, quote, "Favo fucked up. He knows he did." End quote. Apparently, Fabian owed the guy drug money, but Jessica said she quickly told him that Fabian wasn't home. She said she pointed to Victoria's bedroom and said, quote, "It's just me and the girl." End quote. Then from there, the man walked over to Victoria's room.

• 1:41:09Courtney Brown?

  Jessica said that it looked like he knew the apartment, like he had been there before. So she went to the balcony to smoke a cigarette as the man went into Victoria's bedroom. Now, when I first heard the story of this random man, I thought Jessica was lying, that it was just a story to cover up what really happened. But based on the evidence, Jessica seemed to be telling the truth, at least partially, because a man had gone into Victoria's bedroom that night. And while inside, he sodomized her. The man's DNA was under Victoria's fingernails, so she fought back. But at some point during the assault, he strangled her,

• 1:41:51Courtney Brown?

  ending Victoria's life exactly 10 years after it started. Now Jessica never mentioned how long the man was inside the bedroom, but when he came out, she said that he walked over to her and said that she had a mess to clean up in there. She said he then threatened her.

• 1:42:09Colin Brown?

  Jessica said that she waited a few minutes before going into Victoria's bedroom. But when she did, she said that she saw Victoria on the ground in front of her TV. She was lying on her back, and at first glance, it looked like she was sleeping. But Jessica said that she checked her pulse and there was none. Now, when asked why she didn't call the police, Jessica said that she had a bad relationship with law enforcement. After a decade of being in and out of prison, she figured that they would just pin it on her, so she didn't call for help. She also said that she was afraid the man would come back to hurt her children. So she just left Victoria there, dead on her bedroom floor. But eventually, she heard Fabian and Michelle outside. Out in the parking lot of the Arroyo Villa's apartment complex,

• 1:42:53Colin Brown?

  Fabian and Michelle were sitting in the car, enjoying their meth, high as they listened to music. Upon hearing them, Jessica said that she ran into Victoria's room, wrapped her up in a blanket, and then brought her outside. Now Fabian and Michelle would corroborate that next part. They said that as they were sitting in the car, they saw Jessica come out, holding Victoria in that blanket. She didn't come out to the car, she was just standing on the second story, holding her. But because they were so high on drugs, they didn't realize Victoria was dead. They just thought she was sleeping.

• 1:43:26Courtney Brown?

  After a few minutes, Michelle and Fabian finally came back inside. But apparently, Michelle didn't think to go check on her daughter. She didn't give her a birthday present. She didn't sing her "Happy Birthday." She was so high, she essentially forgot about her. And while Michelle stepped away for a second, Jessica pulled her cousin out on the balcony. And according to her, that's when she told Fabian everything that had happened. That a random man came in asking for him, and how that man raped and murdered Victoria in her bedroom.

• 1:44:00Speaker 24

  He kinda looked at me like, "You're freaking crazy," you know? And I told him, "Well, go check." And then he went and checked Victoria, and then came back and he's like, "Oh my god, what were we gonna do?"

• 1:44:13Courtney Brown?

  Once Fabian realized that Victoria was dead, he and Jessica came up with a plan. They were going to take turns dismembering Victoria's body. And while one person was doing that, the other would distract Michelle. So according to Jessica, that's exactly what they did. Now, I still have a hard time believing that Michelle didn't know any of this was happening. We'll get into that a little later. But that night, Michelle even went into the kitchen and made everyone tacos, while her daughter's body was in the other room. According to her, it never crossed her mind that Victoria never ate dinner that night. But sometime after making the tacos, according to them,

• 1:44:56Courtney Brown?

  Michelle went into her bedroom to go to sleep. And that's when Jessica and Fabian started the dismemberment process. And here is how that played out, according to Jessica. Once Michelle was in the bedroom, Fabian grabbed a kitchen knife and some trash bags. They then went into Victoria's room and put the trash bags beneath her body so that they wouldn't get blood on the carpet. And then from there, they began cutting Victoria's arms off with a kitchen knife. Jessica said that she held the arms as Fabian stabbed them. Now, kitchen knives are not usual tools people use for dismemberment, so it was incredibly messy and difficult. The process took them several hours.

• 1:45:41Courtney Brown?

  But once the arms were removed... Jessica put them in a trash bag, and then put the trash bag in Victoria's laundry basket. She then took that basket and put it by the front door. But Jessica said that when she returned to Victoria's room, she saw Fabian cutting open Victoria's chest. She said that he put a trash bag around his hand, so that it wouldn't get bloody. And he then reached into Victoria's chest and started removing her organs. He removed her heart, liver, lungs, and kidneys. But at that point, Jessica said that she told him to stop. When asked why, Jessica said this.

• 1:46:22Speaker 24

  Because I just figured it's a mess to cut up a body while you just get rid of the body, not make a bigger mess.

• 1:46:33Colin Brown?

  So, from here, Jessica said that she took over. Fabian went into the bedroom to check on Michelle while she started cleaning up. She said she wiped the blood off Victoria's body, and she even put her pink pajamas back on. She then wrapped her body up in some trash bags, then a blanket, and she carried Victoria over to the bathroom. After placing her in the bathtub, Jessica got a bowl and filled it with soapy water. She then went to Victoria's room and attempted to clean the blood out of the carpet. From there, she put some bloody towels into the washing machine. Now, at this point, Fabian came out of the bedroom and Jessica said that he cleaned off the bloody knives and then put them back into the knife block. But investigators would later find pieces of flesh still attached to it, as well as Fabian's fingerprints.

• 1:47:18Colin Brown?

  By this point, they had been dismembering Victoria for hours. And it's here where they decided that they were going to dump her body out in the mesa. However, those plans would soon change. In her paranoid state, Jessica said she lost it. After hours of dismembering Victoria, with her blood still soaked into the carpet, Jessica feared that it would only be a matter of time until the police figured out what happened, and she was sent right back to prison. So, right then, she decided that she was going to kill Fabian and Michelle. In court, Jessica explained her reasoning behind this.

• 1:47:51Speaker 24

  The fact of everything that happened to Victoria, I just couldn't handle it mentally. And I was afraid of coming back to prison, and I felt I was gonna go back to prison, so I might as well make it worth it. And I was gonna kill Fabian and Michelle, because I was already gonna go down for a murder.

• 1:48:12Colin Brown?

  So Jessica went into Michelle's bedroom and asked for their phones. I guess she didn't want them calling the police as she was about to murder them. But obviously Fabian and Michelle were confused. However, they did give them to Jessica and she placed their phones in her back pocket and grabbed the tire iron. Then Jessica looked at Michelle and asked, "Do you believe in God?" Before bashing in her head. According to Jessica, that's when she told Michelle that her daughter was dead. And from there, the two continued to struggle for a couple of minutes before Fabian took the tire iron and he and Michelle ran outside. As they did, neighbors heard some commotion and within minutes, the police were on their way. But they just thought it was some sort of domestic dispute. They had no idea what they were about to walk into.

• 1:48:57Colin Brown?

  Back inside the apartment, Jessica was spiraling. And here's what happened next.

• 1:49:03Speaker 24

  And I was gonna leave the apartment, but then I realized we never got rid of her body, so I got scared and I lit the corner of the blanket or the sheet. I set the fire and it seemed like it got real smoky right away. And the smoke alarm went off and I started panicking. I took down, I think, one or two smoke alarms. And by that time, the officer was at the door. I opened the door to the officer, seeing it was an officer, and shut the door and that's when I slid off the second story.

• 1:49:35Courtney Brown?

  During Fabian's trial, the prosecution stated that even though they don't know the identity of Victoria's killer, they suspected that it had to do with that fight Fabian got in at that family barbecue days before the murder. If you remember, he started fighting with his family members and even threatened them, saying he was going to come back with his gang member brothers. So they suspected that someone within that family or someone close to them came by to hurt Fabian. However, when they saw that he wasn't at the apartment, they chose to hurt Victoria instead. But Fabian's defense team argued that Jessica Kelly was the one who murdered Victoria and she was the one who dismembered her.

• 1:50:19Courtney Brown?

  Now, they aren't denying that someone came in to rape Victoria. That man's DNA was found on her neck, back, and fingernails. So even though he was the one to rape her... They believed that Jessica Kelly was ultimately the one who ended her life. Now Fabian's fingerprints were found on the knife that contained Victoria's flesh, but he claimed that he used those knives all the time for cooking. And other than that, the only piece of evidence at the scene that had both Fabian and Victoria's DNA was a sock. It was Fabian's sock and it had Victoria's blood on it. But that sock was found in Victoria's laundry basket where parts of her remains were located.

• 1:51:02Courtney Brown?

  So his defense said that that's how Victoria's blood could have gotten on the sock. But his defense team said that he had nothing to do with it, that it was all Jessica Kelly. However, that would be up for the jury to decide. On August 3rd, 2022, both sides rested their cases and the jury was sent away for deliberations. And after only two hours, the jury reached their verdict: guilty on all counts.

• 1:51:30Colin Brown?

  Victoria's loved ones were happy with the verdict, but Fabian's defense clearly wasn't. They believed that Jessica Kelly had fooled everyone. His defense attorney would later say, and she's probably laughing now at the fact that the state of New Mexico accepted her, her version of what happened. Now, during Fabian's sentencing, the prosecution wanted the maximum sentence of 40 years. But before handing down the sentence, Judge Leos allowed Victoria's grandfather, John Martins, to read his victim impact statement.

• 1:52:01Speaker 25

  We no longer gonna hear her say, "Papa, I love you. Nana, I love you." We won't hear, "Papa, Nana, can you take me to gymnastics?" Or "Papa, I'm 16. Can you teach me to drive?" "How about graduation? There'll be none." "And most of all, Papa, can you walk me down the aisle?" So your honor, we ask that you impose the max sentence because Victoria will not get the max out of her life that she should have been entitled to.

• 1:52:34Courtney Brown?

  Ultimately, Fabian Gonzalez was sentenced to 37.5 years in prison, just shy of the maximum amount.

• 1:52:42Colin Brown?

  Now, as for Victoria's mom, Michelle Martins, many people couldn't understand why she would have given a false confession. Why would she tell police she was letting Fabian and Jessica rape her daughter while she watched if it wasn't true? Why implicate yourself in her murder if that wasn't true? Well, forensic psychiatrist Dr. Michael Wellner determined that Michelle had certain personality traits that made her susceptible to false confessions. Dr. Wellner also found Michelle to be extremely vulnerable and described her as a "people pleaser." He went on to say that she had a low IQ and a history of trauma and drug abuse. Her family members confirmed that Michelle was known to lie, and she had told one major lie while she was pregnant with Victoria, as she had denied she was pregnant until

• 1:53:27Colin Brown?

  the day she gave birth. During her confession, it appeared as if Michelle was just agreeing with the detectives and not providing facts on her own. Dr. Wellner believed that Michelle did not understand that she was incriminating herself in the crime when she claimed to have witnessed the murder. He said, "She was falsely saying she was there. She was falsely saying she saw things. Falsely saying she heard things. She was saying things while believing she was actually placing blame on other people, which she was, but she was also including herself in the responsibility."

• 1:53:59Courtney Brown?

  Now, in part of Michelle's confession, she said that she would let men come over to her house to have sex with her daughter. And the prosecution was never able to find evidence of this, but it was found that Victoria had an STD, one that she had gotten before Fabian ever came into the picture. So that alone proves that Victoria had been subjected to sexual abuse. Now, whether her mother knew about this or not, we can't say. But before we move on from Michelle, I do want to mention this. The prosecution couldn't prove that Michelle Martins had anything to do with what happened on the night of Victoria's death.

• 1:54:39Courtney Brown?

  According to them, Michelle came home that night, never once checked in on her daughter, and then went to bed. And while she was sleeping, Fabian and Jessica dismembered Victoria.

• 1:54:51Courtney Brown?

  But there are a lot of people out there who just don't buy it. Neighbors also said that they heard three people arguing in the apartment that night, Fabian, Michelle, and Jessica, and that the arguments went on all night long. They said that the three adults would be screaming at each other, then they would stop, then they would start screaming again. But let's just say for argument's sake, the neighbors were mistaken. They didn't actually hear three people, they heard two, Fabian and Jessica, and that during those arguments, Michelle really was in her bedroom. But for a lot of people, it's hard to believe that Michelle heard them fighting all night

• 1:55:32Courtney Brown?

  long and never once asked what was going on, that she never once went to go check on her daughter. For a lot of people who hear this, it just doesn't make sense. Something else that's hard to wrap my head around are the other sounds that the neighbors heard that night. They said that for hours, they heard screaming, banging, and the sounds of things being dragged around the floor. So the fact that Michelle didn't hear any of that is hard to believe. Now again, we don't think she had her daughter killed, but there are a lot of people who believe that she knew more than she was letting on.

• 1:56:08Colin Brown?

  On June 29th, 2018, Michelle Martins ended up taking a plea deal. She pleaded guilty to one count of reckless child abuse resulting in death. DA Torres stated that although Michelle was not a murderer, she did contribute to an unsafe environment for her children, an environment that allowed her daughter to be killed, and he believed she needed to be held accountable for her responsibility in the crime. So in November of 2022, Michelle Martins was sentenced to 12 years in prison. So now we get to the last person in the story, Jessica Kelly. And in my opinion, she's the biggest monster of them all. When she took the stand at Fabian's trial, she cried because she said she loved her cousin and testifying against him was hard for her.

• 1:56:52Colin Brown?

  But when it came to talking about what happened to Victoria, Jessica Kelly showed no emotion whatsoever.

• 1:56:59Speaker 26

  You were emotional, would you agree, when you took the stand?

• 1:57:05Speaker 24

  Yes.

• 1:57:06Speaker 26

  You told the jury that you were crying because you grew up with Fabian and you loved him. Remember saying that?

• 1:57:16Speaker 24

  Yes.

• 1:57:18Speaker 26

  Shouldn't you be mad at Fabian for causing or permitting Victoria's death?

• 1:57:25Speaker 24

  I am angry with him. But that does not change the way you feel about somebody. You can't just take a whole lifetime away and not care.

• 1:57:36Speaker 26

  Did you ever think about crying for Victoria and what happened to her?

• 1:57:41Speaker 24

  I do. I cry all the time.

• 1:57:44Speaker 26

  Victoria was the innocent child, wasn't she, not Fabian?

• 1:57:48Speaker 24

  Yes.

• 1:57:49Courtney Brown?

  And sadly, Jessica Kelly would also take a plea deal. Ultimately, she pleaded no contest to child abuse resulting in death, great bodily harm, aggravated assault, tampering with evidence, and conspiracy to commit tampering with evidence. And on April 28, 2022, she was sentenced to 40 years in prison.

• 1:58:12Speaker 27

  This deranged person should have not been on the street.

• 1:58:15Speaker 28

  The grandparents of 10-year-old Victoria Martins making a statement to the court before Jessica Kelly was sentenced Thursday morning. Prosecutors say Kelly had been using meth before babysitting Victoria at the girls' Albuquerque apartment in 2016. They say Kelly let an unidentified man into the apartment, who then strangled Victoria to death.

• 1:58:34Speaker 27

  She took it upon herself to watch 10-year-old Victoria and care for her. Instead, she decided to get high and participate in the brutal murder of Victoria. Then tried to cover it up by participating in dismembering her, dissecting her, and set her on fire in the bathtub. This is what's left: a wooden box of her ashes.

• 1:58:57Speaker 28

  Kelly took a plea deal, which the judge followed, agreeing to a 50-year prison sentence with six years suspended, for a total of 44 years.

• 1:59:06Speaker 27

  This is one evil person that does not belong on the street or even on this earth. We are asking that you put her away so she cannot do this to anyone else.

• 1:59:18Colin Brown?

  Jessica Kelly's 44-year sentence means she will likely spend the rest of her life in prison. She will not be eligible for release until 2066, when she's 81 years old.

• 1:59:30Courtney Brown?

  So with that, Jessica, Fabian, and Michelle were all behind bars, right where they belong. But justice has yet to be served. Sadly, the unknown male who raped and murdered Victoria on her 10th birthday is still out there somewhere. They are living their lives and walking among us. And there are a lot of people out there that believe Jessica Kelly knew exactly who that man was. There was even a phone call she made to her mother from jail, where she said that someone she knows needs to get an attorney.

• 2:00:05Speaker 09

  In a jailhouse phone call between Jessica Kelly and her mother, Jessica warns a man she knows needs to lawyer up.

• 2:00:11Speaker 07

  Talk to her, right, Michelle?

• 2:00:13Speaker 09

  No, I don't.

• 2:00:14Speaker 07

  Well, if you can message her and tell her son to lawyer up, he needs to, he needs a lawyer.

• 2:00:22Speaker 09

  Okay, yeah, I have been heard from her since all this happened. She never says the name of the man, or why she thinks he needs an attorney.

• 2:00:31Speaker 07

  Give him that message.

• 2:00:32Speaker 09

  Okay, yeah, I will, okay.

• 2:00:34Courtney Brown?

  In this next part, I am going to walk you through some theories that I found online. And because this case has so many unanswered questions, there has been a lot of speculation as to what really happened. There are a lot of people who believe that the unidentified man who raped and murdered Victoria was somehow connected to Jessica Kelly and that family barbecue. As we know, Fabian got into a huge fight with the people there, and he threatened them. Then afterwards, he was looking up ways to get a gun. The people at that barbecue had armed men sitting outside waiting for Fabian to come back with his brothers. So it's widely believed that someone either from that barbecue or someone they knew

• 2:01:19Courtney Brown?

  had been looking for Fabian, and eventually they found where he was staying. However, when they came to the apartment that day and saw that Fabian wasn't there, they decided to hurt Victoria instead. Now, keep in mind, that family barbecue was thrown by Jessica's family. I wasn't able to figure out how everyone was exactly related, but considering it was her family's barbecue, it's safe to say that if this is what happened, then Jessica likely knew the person, which would explain why she didn't call the police. She was protecting them. Because if this was just a random man that Jessica had never seen before, and he just walked into the apartment and raped and murdered a little girl,

• 2:02:03Courtney Brown?

  why on earth would you not call the police? Why would you go through all of the trouble of trying to dismember a body unless you were trying to protect someone? Now, let's consider the next theory, which is Jessica Kelly's version of events. She said that Fabian kept leaving the apartment that day, that it was strange because he and Michelle would be home for a couple of minutes, and then they would leave again. They kept coming back and forth that whole day, then a random man comes by saying that Fabian owed him money, and then he rapes and murders Victoria. But this story is also hard to believe. If this is true, then Fabian likely would have known exactly who this man was. People know who they owe money to.

• 2:02:46Courtney Brown?

  Now, I know that snitching is a huge no-no in the criminal world, but in the beginning, Fabian was being blamed for raping and murdering a 10-year-old girl. So if the real perpetrator was someone that he knew, someone he owed money to, then why wouldn't he just tell the police who it was? But here is another theory, one that makes sense to me. As we mentioned, Jessica Kelly had been extremely paranoid in the days before the murder. She didn't even leave the apartment for days because she was scared someone was coming for her. She herself admitted that she had been looking out the windows and watching cars drive by. Now, we know that meth can cause paranoia.

• 2:03:29Courtney Brown?

  But what are the chances that on the same day Jessica is paranoid out of her mind? That someone actually comes into the apartment and rapes and murders a little girl? There are a lot of people who believe that Jessica was paranoid because she had gotten herself into trouble. Maybe she had wronged someone and they were actually looking for her. And eventually, they found her. Then, when that person came by, Jessica offered up Victoria as some sort of payment. And again, it just doesn't make sense that she and Fabian would go through all of the trouble of dismembering a ten-year-old little girl if they were truly innocent in all of this.

• 2:04:11Courtney Brown?

  I also saw a theory that maybe Jessica had invited someone over to have sex with Victoria. Remember how Jessica gave her that forty-five dollars? Well, people have speculated that Jessica let someone rape Victoria. Then she gave her that money to keep her quiet. However, later that night, in her paranoid state, Jessica got nervous that Victoria would say something, so she killed her. We also know that Jessica had been charged with conspiracy to commit sexual assault against a female inmate while she was in prison, so I wouldn't put it past her. But whatever the case may be, I truly believe that Jessica Kelly knew the man that came into the apartment that day.

• 2:04:53Courtney Brown?

  It's probably why she had been paranoid, why she didn't call the police, and why she helped dismember Victoria. It's also likely why she tried to kill Fabian and Michelle later that next morning, why she tried to set the body on fire to get rid of evidence. Perhaps Jessica knew that she was the root of everything that had gone wrong. So she tried to kill everyone in the apartment and then burn it to the ground.

• 2:05:19Colin Brown?

  And then there's that prison phone call she made to her mother, where she said that that unknown man needs an attorney. Now, again, these are just our opinions. We aren't experts and we don't have all the answers here. But we can't help but speculate when it comes to a case like this, especially since the person who raped and murdered Victoria is still out there. And we're interested to hear what y'all, our listeners, think. What are your theories? Let us know on our social media or by commenting on our episode itself.

• 2:05:49Courtney Brown?

  Unfortunately, this is where our story ends. But that feels so wrong. There are so many unanswered questions to this case. And Victoria's loved ones will not rest until that unknown man is identified. Victoria Ann Martins deserves that. Her life hadn't been easy. Victoria had been sexually assaulted on a number of occasions. New Mexico Children, Youth and Family Department Services had been called five different times before she was murdered. But still, she remained in her mother's care, which was clearly a huge mistake. Michelle Martins, who was entrusted to protect, love, and nurture Victoria,

• 2:06:31Courtney Brown?

  invited strangers into their lives, criminals. And because of that, someone connected to them would come into their home and destroy everything. Victoria's 10th birthday, which was supposed to be filled with love and happiness, ended in the worst way you can possibly imagine. Raped, murdered, dismembered, and set on fire. The people who dismembered her are in prison for their part. But to the person who raped and murdered her, I can only hope that they are haunted every single day by what they did. I hope that when they lay their head down at night, they are filled with paranoia, wondering when their crimes will catch up to them.

• 2:07:14Courtney Brown?

  And I hope that the rest of their days are filled with all the pain and misery that this world has to offer. I am hopeful that one day we will know exactly who this man is. We have his DNA. And with advancements in technology, I'm confident that he won't stay hidden forever and that Victoria Martins can finally get the justice she deserves.

• 2:07:38Colin Brown?

  The Albuquerque Police Department is urging anyone with information to contact Crime Stoppers at 505-843-7867. And in Victoria's honor, this week, we will also be making a donation to Prevent Child Abuse America, an incredible organization that aims to protect our nation's youth. You can find them at preventchildabuse.org.

• 2:08:06Colin Brown?

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• 2:08:49Colin Brown?

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• 2:09:33Colin Brown?

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