1000 w/ 17 Guests! (Sam Fane, Jay Leno, Emelia Hartford, Larry Chen,Spikes Car Radio, and more!)

8 Hours of rotating guests including: Emelia Hartford Sam Fane Jay Leno Spike Feresten w Paul Zuckerman Christian James Hand Tati Reed Jonny Lieberman Elana Scherr JF Musial Larry Chen Vin Anatra Ron Zaras J Ryan (Unofficial Good Vibes founder) Phil Morris (actor) Marco Gerace (TLG Auto) Hanna Farah Sara Stringfellow Recorded March 31, 2025 Proper Cloth: Use code TIRE for 10% off your first order bit.ly/pc-smokingtire Get TWENTY PERCENT off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://www.joindeleteme.com/TIRE and use promo code TIRE at checkout. To listen to DRIVE with Jim Farley, just search for “DRIVE with Jim Farley” in your podcast app. https://www.youtube.com/@Jim. Farley New merch! Grab a shirt or hoodie and support us! https://thesmokingtireshop.com/ Want your question answered? To listen to the episode the day it's recorded? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast Use Off The Record! and ALWAYS fight your tickets! Enter code TST25 for a 10% discount on your first case on the Off The Record app, or go to http://www.offtherecord.com/TST. #cars #comedy #podcast Tweet at us! https://www. Twitter.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Twitter.com/zackklapman Instagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman Click here for the most honest car reviews out there: https://www.youtube.com/thesmokingtire

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

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• 0:43Matt Farah?

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• 1:26Matt Farah?

  Well, we are here, people. It's TST1000. We have done this a lot of times and that is a lot of talking. And if you're here, then you are, you better be ready for a lot more of it. Because in the 1,000th episode of the Smoking Tire Podcast, this is an eight-hour podcasting extravaganza with characters from all over the automotive industry, professionals, photographers, journalists, videographers, comedians, television personalities and more are stopping by to say hello on a very, very long, hopefully the longest episode ever of the Smoking Tire Podcast.

• 2:10Matt Farah?

  It's episode 1,000. Let's do this.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  Boom.

• 2:15Matt Farah?

  Are we here? Is this it?

• 2:18Speaker 01

  We are here.

• 2:19Matt Farah?

  Episode...

• 2:20Speaker 01

  We are here.

• 2:20Matt Farah?

  1,000 has begun.

• 2:22Speaker 01

  Episode mie.

• 2:24Matt Farah?

  Meal.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  Meal.

• 2:26Matt Farah?

  Meal.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  Episode snack. That was 500.

• 2:28Matt Farah?

  This is the... I think this is the part where it's gonna get fun. Because... I have to admit something. From the part... From planning this until right now, or like 10 minutes ago, it really hasn't been like fun. Cause it's... It surely felt like work. And it's a good milestone, but like the planning and the scheduling and the this and the that and... Everyone had... It felt just like regular podcasting, but with more work.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, right.

• 2:55Matt Farah?

  And, you know, my wife, Hannah, who's gonna be here in a little bit, her family has a saying, which I had embroidered in a pillow at our house, in Latin. And I don't remember exactly the Latin thing, but it's "Fun is best when it's over."

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. I thought you were like, "I don't remember the words."

• 3:11Matt Farah?

  No, no, no.

• 3:12Speaker 01

  But the pillow's really...

• 3:13Matt Farah?

  I don't remember the translation into Latin.

• 3:15Speaker 01

  Gotcha.

• 3:15Matt Farah?

  "Sui et..." Something, something. But it's basically, "Fun is best when it's over." And I think, we're about to do 8 hours of radio, with a rotating, um... "Cabal! It's a cabal of guests are coming through."

• 3:31Speaker 01

  It's a cabinet. A lot of czars. We have a lot of czars of guests coming in.

• 3:34Matt Farah?

  "Welcome to Oligarch Radio."

• 3:36Speaker 01

  It's too early for that.

• 3:38Matt Farah?

  Uh, I do actually have a... You know, it's funny is like, as I wrote, you know, normally, I don't... I don't write out... I write topics of things in the news to talk about, or things we've done. I don't wanna forget, but... When we're just doing radio with our friends, there isn't like a program, or a schedule, or like, I don't like really write out questions. Cause we like... We know these people. We don't need help doing radio, but with so much time to fill.

• 4:05Matt Farah?

  Eight hours is a lot, and so I did write some thought starters. And if you look at the ones in the be- the very beginning of the list versus the one I wrote over coffee this morning, they are starkly different.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 4:21Matt Farah?

  And as, as my mood sort of changed throughout.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  More stressed?

• 4:26Matt Farah?

  The pro- more stressed, and like you could tell like the ones I started with, I was out in the backyard with the cats yesterday.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  So it's like, what do you feed cats on a road trip?

• 4:36Matt Farah?

  It was a sunny day, you know, it was a beautiful, you know, perfect day outside by the pool with, you know, four little animals that I love and my wife. And then in the end, the last one I wrote after reading, you know, a few posts on like Reddit this morning over my coffee. It's like.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  Best car to flee to Mexico.

• 4:55Matt Farah?

  Dude, the, the difference is crazy.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, it sets your mood. It's really a way to start the day. Uh, the fun you're referring to is what we call third tier fun, where it's fun after the fact, like backpacking. You go, that was a good time, but during it, you're like mosquitoes and rain and whatever.

• 5:11Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:12Matt Farah?

  Right. Like, almost like a time when you remember America being great. Is it like that, Zach?

• 5:19Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 5:20Matt Farah?

  I'm just saying, I'm just saying, um, the, uh, but I was reflecting, um, earlier before Johnny got here and wouldn't stop talking before doing eight hours of radio. Uh, that I was reflecting on like just what it means to do a thousand of anything. You know what I mean? Like, if you're, if you, if you have any task and you do it one at a time, doing a thousand of them is a lot.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 5:49Matt Farah?

  And if that task takes two people several hours to do, and you then do a thousand of them.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:55Matt Farah?

  That's a lot of time.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  Did you do the math?

• 5:58Matt Farah?

  Johnny yelled through the door because of the 30 second delay of what I said about him and it's playing in the lounge.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  So we can, we can talk shit, lock the door and he'll hear us.

• 6:06Matt Farah?

  Johnny has, uh, he's a commenter, but in real life. Thirty second delay.

• 6:11Speaker 01

  Me see.

• 6:12Matt Farah?

  But no, it's like, we've done a thousand things that take like, three to four hours each.

• 6:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, I-

• 6:20Matt Farah?

  That's a lot.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  Our average runtime's like ninety minutes, so that's, I just did the math, that's fifteen hundred hours of podcasting, of talking that we have done.

• 6:28Matt Farah?

  Well Hannah got us a cake.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:31Matt Farah?

  It's in the lounge.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  It's great.

• 6:32Matt Farah?

  We'll put it on Instagram later, but it basically says, you know, "The Smoking Tire, 1,000 episodes, so much talking."

• 6:38Speaker 01

  I, I saw that great comment, and a hundred percent her sense of humor.

• 6:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:42Speaker 01

  It's just so much talking, yeah.

• 6:43Matt Farah?

  But she, I mean, she really, apparently is, is, is quite the, the radio host, because the comments and the, not just the comments, the numbers, the numbers! I gotta stop doing that.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  Big, yeah.

• 6:54Matt Farah?

  The numbers-

• 6:55Speaker 01

  It's too early.

• 6:55Matt Farah?

  It's too early. I've had a lot of caffeine today, already.

• 6:58Speaker 01

  Already?

• 6:59Matt Farah?

  Already.

• 6:59Speaker 01

  I can tell, you're tapping your pen. I've had that many milliliters, very small.

• 7:04Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm. We have, I mean, we have a variety of substances throughout the day-

• 7:08Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:08Matt Farah?

  We can play with, we've got the Louis Louis, got a case of the Louis Louis, we've got Johnny brought two very special bottles of whiskey, that he started to try to tell me about, and I was like, this is things we talk about on radio, so he'll bring those in. I told him, what, what time did you tell yourself you would,

• 7:29Matt Farah?

  was your cutoff for substances today? Like, how early are you willing to start drinking?

• 7:34Speaker 01

  Oh, not till four.

• 7:36Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  I, I get, I get tired an hour after I've started drinking, it doesn't work the way it did when I was like twenty-five.

• 7:43Matt Farah?

  I think what you have to do is what me and Glucker did, which was where we had a Celsius, whiskey and Celsius-

• 7:50Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 7:50Matt Farah?

  It was a Celsius, not a Manhattan, uh, what's the other one with whiskey? That I can't remember right now.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Hmm, wait.

• 7:57Matt Farah?

  What's the drink that everyone, an Old Fashioned?

• 7:59Speaker 01

  Old Fashioned.

• 7:59Matt Farah?

  It was a Celsius Old Fashioned.

• 8:00Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, sure, that's the fancy Rebel vodka, absolutely. No, that is effective, and that's what I would, I'll have to do.

• 8:05Matt Farah?

  It was effective, it was gross.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  Neither of you enjoyed the taste?

• 8:09Matt Farah?

  No, it was very gross.

• 8:10Speaker 01

  That told me I didn't need to try one.

• 8:11Matt Farah?

  But it was effective, definitely.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  You know what, that's the same with Rebel vodka as well.

• 8:16Matt Farah?

  Um, so we've got so many people, uh, coming in today, um- I think it's like 20 people throughout the day. And we don't know exactly when they will show up. So, but we only have, here's what's gonna happen. We only have four microphones. And that's intentional. We didn't want it to turn into one of those like, you know, sort of free.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  We learned on episode 200, if anyone listened to that.

• 8:42Matt Farah?

  Was it episode 200 where he tried to do like 12 people on mic?

• 8:45Speaker 01

  It was a cacophony. It was five marching bands warming up in the same auditorium. It was just too much.

• 8:51Matt Farah?

  I wonder if we bought, because we were talking to someone about studio equipment the other day. I wonder if we bought this Yamaha board with all these inputs for that.

• 9:00Speaker 01

  We did.

• 9:01Matt Farah?

  We did? We bought it for the 200th episode?

• 9:03Speaker 01

  It was the board, it was the only board we could find that had the most inputs, but wasn't the size of this table. Because there was no podcast industry back then. So we selected that one. And then we learned our lesson. And now we never use any of the inputs beyond number four.

• 9:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah, now we have this Yamaha board and it has like 16 channels. And it has, each channel has, I don't know, 12 plus adjustments on it. And we move three levers and we press two buttons. And people come in and look at it. It's, that's the thing. Having a big board. If you have people.

• 9:40Speaker 01

  Sets the tone.

• 9:40Matt Farah?

  You have people coming in. It's like having one of those conference tables that seats like 900 people.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  And you're just one at each end. You know, yeah.

• 9:48Matt Farah?

  They look at the board and they go, holy shit. They care, they care so much about their audio.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  That's right. It gives us the power. It's like that podcast network person. He used to show his firearm to potential partners.

• 10:02Matt Farah?

  I wonder if that guy ever went to jail?

• 10:04Speaker 01

  No, I don't think so.

• 10:05Matt Farah?

  No.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  I don't think he did.

• 10:06Matt Farah?

  No, he's definitely, he's on a boat parade somewhere probably.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  But I just want to say a quick, quick thank you to the fans. Because we started doing this in 2011 in January. And we're like, maybe this will work or not work. And it was well received very quickly. And it grew. And that's why we're at episode 1000. Like we kept doing it, but people kept listening. And you do need both components.

• 10:29Matt Farah?

  Right. Yeah, yeah. You know, the first component is to like not actually stop doing the thing. That's, that's. I mean, it's definitely easier if you have the second. If you have fans and if you have some kind of revenue, it is easier to keep going.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  True.

• 10:47Matt Farah?

  And so if we didn't get those things eventually, first you get the fans, then you get the monies, then you get the power, and you get the women's. Then eventually someone bakes you a cake that says so much talking on it.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  Right, we podcasted our way into marriage and cake.

• 11:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah, right, that is true.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  Kind of.

• 11:05Matt Farah?

  Uh, both counts.

• 11:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:06Matt Farah?

  Uh, in that order. But, um, oh shit, we should, yeah, there he is, he's just, come on in. Christian James, man, Johnny, you can come in too if you want. Guys, today's episode is brought to you by Proper Cloth. I love Proper Cloth. They come in so clutch, because if you're like me, maybe you have a problem getting clothes off the rack that fit properly, right? You then have to take those clothes and go to a tailor. It's extra time, it's extra money, it's extra headache. But what if there was a better way? Proper Cloth is here.

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• 15:11Speaker 02

  What's up everybody?

• 15:13Matt Farah?

  One of my personal radio idols. Johnny Lieberman comes into the studio as well. Grab a seat. Grab a seat.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  Hello.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Jay Ryan just pulled into the parking lot.

• 15:25Matt Farah?

  Oh, he did, okay. Well, he will, he, we will-

• 15:28Speaker 03

  I didn't know about that 30 second delay.

• 15:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  It's a thing.

• 15:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I was talking shit about Johnny and he was in the other room. Echo! I was like, "I can hear you asshole" or something. So Johnny's, Johnny's goal is to be in and out of this show all day.

• 15:46Speaker 02

  Nice, I'm gonna do the same.

• 15:47Matt Farah?

  Are you? Hang out all day?

• 15:49Speaker 02

  Fuck yeah, I'm gonna do that.

• 15:50Matt Farah?

  Man, you are a good friend.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  This is a full, this is a marathon.

• 15:52Matt Farah?

  I crisscrossed, uh, paths in Vegas on Thursday. I was there. I was on an Audi gig.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 16:00Matt Farah?

  And Julia invited me to the show.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:02Matt Farah?

  She was so kind, uh, inviting me to the show, but like, I wasn't gonna be done until after the- How was the show?

• 16:09Speaker 02

  Uh, I mean, it's incredible.

• 16:11Matt Farah?

  Talk about the Dead at the Sphere.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  I'm-

• 16:12Matt Farah?

  Dead and Co.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  People like the Sphere.

• 16:14Speaker 02

  Dead and Co at the Sphere. Yeah, no, it's, uh, this is the, this is the masterpiece.

• 16:17Matt Farah?

  It's good?

• 16:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah?

• 16:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:20Speaker 03

  But who's left in the Dead? Like, they're all, they're all dead.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  Mickey and, uh, Bob. And, well, the keyboard, the piano keyboard guy who's been with them forever, and I forget the bassist's name, but he's also been, I mean, they have replacement people that have been in for 20 years at this point.

• 16:34Matt Farah?

  I understand. At least they acknowledge that.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  I remember when Jerry died very well. That was 1994 or something.

• 16:39Matt Farah?

  Four or five?

• 16:39Speaker 02

  But I was, I was in there the other day watching Mayor and I'm like, "Oh, this is gonna go on forever, cuz they're just gonna have him take a step to the left, and then there'll be some new dude who'll come in and play the mayor role, and the fans will just be like, "Absa-fucking-lutely dude, we are in."

• 16:55Speaker 03

  The fans haven't cared what the music sounded like since about 82, so-

• 16:58Matt Farah?

  That's what drugs does, yeah.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  I haven't seen drugs.

• 17:00Matt Farah?

  But they do care what it looks like visually.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, man, no, I think this is really extraordinary. If you get the opportunity, you should absolutely go check it out.

• 17:07Matt Farah?

  Okay, well, I have to talk to Julia about dates cuz we really do want to-

• 17:11Speaker 02

  April 17th is the, is the next cycle up, so we should all head out for that.

• 17:14Matt Farah?

  Alright, we'll, we'll figure out how to do that.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  Hells, yeah.

• 17:17Matt Farah?

  Sphere fucking rules when it is, uh, when it is done.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Yep, it's done right.

• 17:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, very exciting. Johnny.

• 17:25Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 17:26Matt Farah?

  Hi.

• 17:26Speaker 03

  What's up?

• 17:27Matt Farah?

  Tell me about that booze you brought and wanted to tell us.

• 17:29Speaker 03

  Oh, I should have brought, you want to go grab it?

• 17:31Matt Farah?

  No, no, no, it's okay.

• 17:32Speaker 03

  Visuals, okay.

• 17:32Matt Farah?

  Tell and then show, you're here all day.

• 17:34Speaker 03

  We're here all day.

• 17:35Matt Farah?

  But I just wanted to know.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  Don't fly too high too soon.

• 17:38Matt Farah?

  You were like so excited to tell me what it was.

• 17:39Speaker 03

  Well, I wanted to start drinking now. I thought.

• 17:41Matt Farah?

  You fucking can.

• 17:42Speaker 03

  I might, I might. I wanted to, like, I Ubered here, so my goal is, you know, to drink all day.

• 17:51Speaker 03

  What we should talk about is how extra comfort is bullshit when it comes to Lyft.

• 17:56Matt Farah?

  Uber and Lyft?

• 17:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:58Matt Farah?

  I think shrinkflation has come to Uber and Lyft comfort. I just got a Kia fucking Nero.

• 18:05Speaker 03

  I had a Kia Nero Extra Comfort, uh, two days ago.

• 18:07Matt Farah?

  Extra comfort, my fucking ass. That's a $24,000 goddamn car.

• 18:13Speaker 03

  But even, I had a Lexus, uh, I don't know, ES350 Hybrid.

• 18:17Matt Farah?

  That's comfort.

• 18:18Speaker 03

  Kind of, but like, every, because these cars do such mileage, the rear shocks are blown on every single one of them. Every single one. The guy playing music that I hate, um, uh.

• 18:30Speaker 02

  Well, it's easy to do.

• 18:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  Let's be honest, Leepam, and there's like three bands that they can play.

• 18:36Speaker 03

  Playing music at all, even though in my profile it says silent and cold, heat's on, playing fucking, I don't know, you probably love it, some horrible pop songs from the 80s. And like, why am I paying extra for this?

• 18:49Matt Farah?

  I, I agree.

• 18:50Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 18:51Matt Farah?

  The driver should respect the quiet, cool.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  Kaja Gugu is expensive, friend. You know what I'm saying?

• 18:57Speaker 03

  Waymo is the future, that's all I'm gonna say.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  Waymo is the future.

• 19:01Matt Farah?

  You know, I, I do, I do get it.

• 19:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:03Matt Farah?

  I do get it.

• 19:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:04Matt Farah?

  Uber, Uber and Lyft drivers, sometimes not doing themselves any favors. I've had some, I've had some epic ones.

• 19:12Speaker 03

  The best.

• 19:13Matt Farah?

  Epic, epically silent, and like, very interesting sometimes.

• 19:17Speaker 01

  Well, sometimes, don't you, don't they ask you, like, do you want conversation or not?

• 19:20Matt Farah?

  Every time. It's a default on the app. There's settings.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  Great thing to have.

• 19:23Matt Farah?

  And I see it come up. You get in the car and you see the thing come up and it says, this rider likes.

• 19:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, mine is frozen silent.

• 19:32Matt Farah?

  Frozen and silent.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  Yeah. Coffin, you know, but uh, you with the whiskey. Uh, so in November, I went to Kentucky and um, my two friends, uh, Bill Binder and Drew Stoddard. So Stoddard founded Stoddard Spirits and their first uh, imprint on the label is uh, Binder Stash. Bill Binder Binder Stash.

• 19:52Matt Farah?

  You brought some before which we tasted and it was good, but it was rocket fuel.

• 19:58Speaker 03

  This is much more, oh no, that one might have been rocket rocket fuel. That might have been the one that was like a hundred and forty-five proof.

• 20:03Matt Farah?

  It was fucking dude, you could, you could run, the DeLorean would have started in Back to the Future 3.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  My car would start on that. Like, yeah, that's, that's pretty high tech.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  Forty-five proof's a lot. So I brought one that's a hundred and thirty-eight point one-five and one that's a hundred and thirty-nine. So nothing even close to one forty-five.

• 20:19Matt Farah?

  Nothing close to one forty-five.

• 20:21Speaker 03

  And I picked these barrels myself.

• 20:22Matt Farah?

  This is, this is. Basically lemonade is basically what you brought.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, delicious.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, for kids. And uh, so I picked these barrels um, in Kentucky and um, they're called, we have the Invisible Swordsman and the Singing Bush. Um, because it was uh.

• 20:39Matt Farah?

  You named these?

• 20:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, me and Bill are obsessed with the Three Amigos, so you obviously remember the scene where they had to find the singing bush and then uh, ask the.

• 20:47Speaker 01

  This sounds like a series in porn anime that would exist. It was like Immaculate Conception is the Invisible Swordsman.

• 20:53Speaker 03

  I guess you've never seen the movie. It's a comedy masterpiece. It's not Tracy Amigos, it's Three Amigos.

• 20:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 20:58Speaker 03

  Do you have anything besides Mexican food? It's the best movie of all time. So anyways, uh, picked these and we're gonna, I wanna finish both of them today, so.

• 21:07Matt Farah?

  Oh, alright. Well, I'm sure people will be happy to help.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  Twenty people coming.

• 21:10Matt Farah?

  And you've, wow, this isn't your first taste of the result, is it?

• 21:14Speaker 03

  Oh god, no. I've been drinking them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, they're very good. But I brought you, I brought you uh, a bottle of each. Um, and uh, they're good. Yeah.

• 21:23Matt Farah?

  Well, when, when it's time to drink, I will be in the game. And I'll even, for you, for this, I'll do it without water.

• 21:29Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 21:30Matt Farah?

  Without ice.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  Hey, we, we had.

• 21:32Matt Farah?

  Maybe water, cause one thirty-nine is still.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  That's real.

• 21:35Speaker 03

  No, no, you don't want water. Remember, remember the, remember the lovely night we spent drinking nineteen different bourbons?

• 21:43Matt Farah?

  It was barely.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  How was the next day?

• 21:44Matt Farah?

  Rough.

• 21:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, but, but that night, did you have ice? Did you have water? Everything was great. Everything was delicious.

• 21:48Matt Farah?

  Um, I think I did put a little bit in some, but I was very, I was under a lot of pressure.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Well, and once you get inebriated, you're like, that's delicious for sure. And then you just remove the water component.

• 22:00Matt Farah?

  I actually didn't get that drunk. What I, when I felt like, we tasted a very small amount of a high-volume bourbons, but whatever mess it made in my stomach was significant.

• 22:12Speaker 03

  That could have been the barbecue we started eating at 11:30 PM.

• 22:16Matt Farah?

  We also paired it with barbecue. It was, it was gnar-nar.

• 22:20Speaker 03

  That was a lot of fun. Empty houses are the best thing.

• 22:23Matt Farah?

  It was a real dude night. It was the dude-est of.

• 22:25Speaker 03

  No furniture.

• 22:26Matt Farah?

  The dude-est of dude nights. Yeah, like a ton of booze in a house with absolutely no furniture.

• 22:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, one bathroom.

• 22:33Speaker 01

  Coming in the door. It was fantastic. Yeah, it was good.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  That sounds like a horror movie waiting to happen.

• 22:37Matt Farah?

  Or high school.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  And my like least favorite social interaction ever.

• 22:41Matt Farah?

  Actually, if it, if that whole night was the.

• 22:43Speaker 02

  That's a kind of autism just stemming in the corner is what that is. You know what I mean? Anybody getting weed? Anybody getting, please? Anybody getting weed?

• 22:51Speaker 03

  Literally no weed.

• 22:52Matt Farah?

  I think, I think if that night was condensed, it would have made the greatest first seven minutes of a horror movie. You know, like what has, someone, that's like go on Reddit or something and like writing prompts, like take it from there. Like eight car industry people are around a kitchen island, having just consumed 70 pounds of barbecue and 19 different bourbons in a house that has absolutely no furniture in it. Discuss.

• 23:22Speaker 03

  Black guy dies first.

• 23:24Speaker 01

  Oh, he's the only one survives.

• 23:26Speaker 02

  Ah, that's the zing. That's how they're zinging, you're zinging.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  There's a black guy in the car industry?

• 23:30Matt Farah?

  It's right, that's why he survives. If we get Jordan Peele on this, that is what will happen. Oh, Marco Giarassi in the house. Good. Now Jay Ryan will have someone to talk to in the lounge.

• 23:39Speaker 02

  It's all happening.

• 23:40Matt Farah?

  First time we've opened the shade.

• 23:41Speaker 02

  Is this beard, is this staying?

• 23:44Matt Farah?

  You know.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  I love this vibe so much.

• 23:46Matt Farah?

  It actually kind of has grown on me.

• 23:48Speaker 02

  Literally and figuratively.

• 23:49Matt Farah?

  A little bit. It's, it's actually kind of a good, uh, a good vibe for me. It's, uh, oh, Phil Morris here.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  It looks like you could also, if you put a different outfit on, you could be like a Greek shipping magnet.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 24:01Matt Farah?

  I like, yeah, no, I'm leaning into my racial ambiguity. Yeah.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  Or Rob Riger.

• 24:08Speaker 03

  Either Jewish or Greek.

• 24:10Matt Farah?

  I did it for one day and someone commented like, "Oh, good. No more January 6th look." And I was like, "Oh, can't go back to that now." You know, you can't unknow things, as AR boxing says. Oh, boy.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  Once you see that in the mirror once, you're like, "Oh, it really is."

• 24:27Matt Farah?

  Digging through the closet and throwing away all my wraparound sunglasses. Now I need them for motorcycling, I swear.

• 24:35Speaker 02

  Right.

• 24:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  They are good for that, though, versus the ones we normally wear.

• 24:38Matt Farah?

  No, this is, this is good. The problem is I have to shave my head every other day now.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  I gotta get you the razor pit. The, the, the thing that allows you to have a, a, a regular razor will last for months.

• 24:51Matt Farah?

  Oh, it's like a ra- a normal razor blade sharpener thing?

• 24:53Speaker 02

  No, it's like, it's literally like, plastic, like, almost neoprene and you just, because what, little thing for everybody in the crowd. The blades don't blunt. What happens is that the combination of the shaving cream and the fragments of hair glue to the edge.

• 25:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  So what this does is you just do that and it cleans it all off. I've been using these things for like, 20 years and I will have a Gillette. Will last two to three months.

• 25:19Matt Farah?

  No way.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  Dude, I'm telling you, everybody, razor pit, it's like 20 bucks on Amazon. And it's, I buy them for all of my friends for Christmas. I should have got you some for Hanukkah.

• 25:29Matt Farah?

  Meanwhile, we've been friends for all six years.

• 25:31Speaker 03

  All his friends.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  All my bald friends. And I, I kept thinking I should get you one of these.

• 25:37Speaker 01

  Harry of Harry's Razors is gonna want to be owner of this company.

• 25:40Matt Farah?

  Better gifts than that, but I'll take one of them.

• 25:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, it's great.

• 25:43Speaker 03

  What about, um, I've seen dudes do that, like, I don't know what you call it, nair, or like the stuff that burns the hair off and you only have to do it like, once every two weeks.

• 25:49Speaker 01

  Oh, nair, my friend.

• 25:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it is, it is nair.

• 25:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:52Matt Farah?

  But, uh, it's, it's the smell of burning hair, but it's a chemical burn.

• 25:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:58Matt Farah?

  And it is the most gag-worthy smell. It's horrible. Someone just suggested I laser my whole head, which I was like.

• 26:04Speaker 01

  That will hurt a lot.

• 26:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  And you have to go multiple times.

• 26:09Speaker 02

  Do they do that?

• 26:09Matt Farah?

  They will. They'll do anything you want.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  Los Angeles. They'll remove hair from anything.

• 26:14Speaker 03

  Google "plastic surgery disaster."

• 26:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wouldn't do that.

• 26:18Speaker 01

  One of the funniest things in college is a friend of mine tried to nair his butt because he had a fuzzy butt.

• 26:21Matt Farah?

  Oh, nice.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  And after about four minutes, he ran to the bathroom going, "Ah, ah." It was quite funny.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  Do you remember the, um, it's like some honey based like hair removal, like you.

• 26:31Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  And you fucking rip it off?

• 26:34Matt Farah?

  So my, that's called waxing.

• 26:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, but you do it at home.

• 26:37Matt Farah?

  It's called home waxing.

• 26:38Speaker 03

  Home waxing, yeah, yeah. So, listen, man, it's really.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  Honey flavored home wax.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  So, um, I got a lot of body hair.

• 26:44Matt Farah?

  Most people don't know it tastes like honey. How do you know?

• 26:47Speaker 03

  I got a lot of body hair. My friend Becky's like, we should like do your back, you know, and I was like, okay. And she goes, let's try it on your arm. And so she did it on your. I would never seen more blood on a, on a arm.

• 27:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 27:00Speaker 03

  It was so awful.

• 27:02Matt Farah?

  They do it on Steve Carell in Forty Year Old Virgin. That's real blood on the screen.

• 27:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:06Matt Farah?

  No, you don't want to do that.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  It was awful.

• 27:07Matt Farah?

  I will, I'm gonna do like an anti ad right now. For, for like years ago, we did an ad for one of those, um, you know, like mail order razor blade companies.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 27:17Matt Farah?

  Direct to consumer.

• 27:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 27:19Matt Farah?

  And actually, you know, they sent us stuff and I actually, I thought, considering the price difference and whatever, and particularly for me that they were free, because we got a bunch for the ad.

• 27:27Speaker 03

  Sure, sure.

• 27:27Matt Farah?

  That, ah, cool. And actually, when we stopped doing the ad, they were still were pretty cheap. And so I just kept buying them. Then they started selling them in the store and now they're the same price as the other shit.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  Saw that the other day.

• 27:39Matt Farah?

  So I ran out and I'd been using them, the other, the, the former mail order brand. They don't have any, so I bought a, uh, Gillette Fusion Mach 5 or something.

• 27:49Speaker 03

  Seven blades.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  So fast.

• 27:51Matt Farah?

  I went back and I used it and I was like, oh dude, this is, this is a Ferrari.

• 27:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I, I have been, I've been in an Impala SS. This is a Ferrari.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  I, I did the same thing.

• 28:02Matt Farah?

  Oh, my god.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  It was the one that begins with H and I was like, all right, let's check these guys out. And then the first thing I was like, no, no, no, this is substandard steel that they're using on these blades.

• 28:12Matt Farah?

  I guess my head's face when they were free.

• 28:14Speaker 03

  Blade factory, dude.

• 28:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. And we had a lot of them.

• 28:16Matt Farah?

  We had a lot of them.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  I'm still burning through old back catalog.

• 28:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah, because Zach shaves like three times a year.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Very true.

• 28:21Speaker 03

  What are we gonna get a beard on Zach?

• 28:23Speaker 01

  I've tried.

• 28:24Matt Farah?

  It's not really possible.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  This is four, this is four weeks right here. If you turn to the right, you can just see it.

• 28:29Speaker 01

  I did that one, a couple of years ago, I like grew the mustache attempt for November and I was talking to someone. I was like, yeah, I grew it in for November. And they went, oh, I didn't notice. And I'm like.

• 28:39Matt Farah?

  It's November.

• 28:43Matt Farah?

  Imagine getting accused of stolen valor in Mopember.

• 28:47Matt Farah?

  No, I swear dude. You have a photo every day for thirty days?

• 28:52Speaker 01

  It was more like I was actually in the military, but they didn't believe me because I wasn't wearing fatigues that looked real enough. They were just like, I can't even tell. So it's this.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 29:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  It's easier.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  It is easier.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  And you could have subscription blades that will last you five years.

• 29:07Matt Farah?

  He doesn't need a subscription.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Right.

• 29:08Matt Farah?

  One time.

• 29:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's it.

• 29:09Matt Farah?

  Buys one, life's a shot.

• 29:11Speaker 01

  The razor pit.

• 29:12Speaker 02

  I'm telling you, the razor pit is the way.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  One and done.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  Did you find it on Amazon?

• 29:15Speaker 01

  What?

• 29:16Speaker 02

  Did you find it? I saw you Google.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  I did?

• 29:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, no, it's.

• 29:18Speaker 01

  It's twenty-six bucks.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's absolutely bonkers.

• 29:20Speaker 01

  Totally worth it.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  Yep. So there you go. Free shout out to, he's an Australian.

• 29:25Matt Farah?

  There you go.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  The black that invented razor pit.

• 29:29Matt Farah?

  I'm not surprised. That's a, that's a Australian type, a thing that makes stuff last longer is a very Australian or, or New Zealand type of vibe. It's expensive to get shit down.

• 29:41Speaker 03

  It's an island. You gotta ship it all in.

• 29:43Speaker 02

  My parents lived there.

• 29:43Matt Farah?

  That's why Johnny comes in with the fucking heat, dude.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  Five years, my, I'm living, it was like a hundred bucks for a gallon of paint, I think.

• 29:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  My cousin and I were gonna.

• 29:52Matt Farah?

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• 30:31Matt Farah?

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• 31:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, we were gonna set up like an illicit skate shoe thing because skate shoes are so crazy expensive there because everything has to be imported. So a pair of Etnies would be like thirty-five bucks or like a hundred and twenty-five. I was like, dude, we should just ship.

• 31:13Speaker 03

  Well, you know, we get enough tariffs going here, it'll be the same price as New Zealand.

• 31:16Matt Farah?

  I just met a guy on my street. Uh, he, I was working out, you know, and I work out with my trainer. I work out in the driveway. Garage slash driveway and.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  Rich man, poor man. That's a, that's a good Jeff Foxworthy.

• 31:27Matt Farah?

  Oh, working out in the driveway?

• 31:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, I suppose.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  Working out in the yard, your yard.

• 31:32Matt Farah?

  Working out the yard, yeah, the yard, I suppose, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:35Speaker 03

  Is that like, what, name something that's like?

• 31:37Matt Farah?

  The prison yard.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  That's what I'm saying, like, name something that's like, bad if you're poor.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Oh, the vid, you know, like Jeff Foxworthy is amazing.

• 31:45Matt Farah?

  I really haven't heard Jeff Foxworthy.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  A fridge in your garage. It's really, it's a good premise.

• 31:49Matt Farah?

  Okay, yeah, yeah.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  Like, owning six cars.

• 31:51Matt Farah?

  Poor or, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know the dude that for decades wrote all of the You Know You're a Redneck If.

• 31:58Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 31:58Speaker 02

  And he is straight up, hello, I'm from England.

• 32:01Matt Farah?

  Of course, of course.

• 32:03Speaker 02

  And I was like, wait, what? And he was like, no, that's what I do. I write the, uh, Do You Know You're a Redneck If?

• 32:08Speaker 03

  If you find ninety-eight, Cosmo magazine, uh, from ninety-eight, the sex tips, me and my friend wrote them.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  We would get drunk in New York and we would be, we would just come up with the dumbest, dumbest things you could think of and they would just publish them.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  And what was the pen name?

• 32:26Speaker 03

  Oh, it was, he was writing them, I don't know, nothing, it was, it was Dear Cosmo.

• 32:29Matt Farah?

  Was it Merely Martin?

• 32:31Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, it was my friend Jonathan.

• 32:33Speaker 01

  To do the job.

• 32:35Speaker 03

  I can't remember his last name, Jonathan something, just a dude I knew, a New Yorker, writer. And I was like, you know, he was working on his novel and I'm like, you know, what do you, how do you support yourself? He's like, well, I write for magazines, I write for Cosmo. I'm like, what do you write for Cosmo? He's like, the sex tips.

• 32:48Matt Farah?

  That's hilarious.

• 32:49Speaker 03

  I'm like, do you talk to girls? Like, no.

• 32:52Matt Farah?

  I used to, you know, I used to work for uh...

• 32:55Speaker 03

  Basically, I mean, the dumbest shit.

• 32:57Matt Farah?

  I used to work for my guy, you know, at Run Track, who was Hunter Thompson's assistant and worked at Playboy for many years.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  You know, he's the editor in chief of Playboy now.

• 33:05Matt Farah?

  Well, he's relaunching Playboy, which is hilarious and crazy, and very on-brand for my guy, so shout out to him.

• 33:11Speaker 03

  Very on-brand.

• 33:12Matt Farah?

  But he, yeah, he would tell me that like, you know, they would write all like the letters, like, and they'd be sitting around the office, it's like, doing drugs and being like, "So, what are we doing here?"

• 33:23Speaker 02

  I didn't believe the stories in your magazine until the other day, the weirdest thing happened, the old penthouse forum.

• 33:29Matt Farah?

  Right, right.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  Amazing.

• 33:31Speaker 03

  I should just point out, we weren't just drunk, we were also on a lot of drugs.

• 33:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, of course, of course. So I think here's what we got. Now we have a, we have a quorum in the lounge. I think there's like four people in the lounge.

• 33:41Speaker 03

  I'll send them in.

• 33:41Matt Farah?

  You guys, well, yeah, we can, one at a time, go tap somebody in, and then in a few minutes, you can go tap somebody in.

• 33:49Speaker 02

  Nice, I like that.

• 33:49Matt Farah?

  We're gonna try and, try and keep it moving, I think, maybe thirty minutes, max, before rotations.

• 33:57Matt Farah?

  Especially, uh, you doing good?

• 33:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I missed out on the Papa Roach.

• 34:02Matt Farah?

  I'm sorry.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  It wasn't, it wasn't you, but Jerry texted me the next day and was like, "Bro," he actually texted me that afternoon and was like, "Bro, can you tonight?" And I was like, "No," and then I saw your...

• 34:10Matt Farah?

  Dude, we, we had Phil Morris, come on in. Oh, Phil and Jay. Come on in, Phil, sit down. Sit down, sit down. Hey, Jay. Before, yeah, just before Christian gets out of here. Jay, you can party mic until you, until you, no, but you're gonna take Christian's chair in a second.

• 34:28Matt Farah?

  No, no, are you not gonna stay and do fucking radio? Yeah, yeah. Oh, Phil, Christian.

• 34:31Speaker 02

  Never met, but we see each other up in the crest all the time.

• 34:34Matt Farah?

  Legendary Seinfeld character actor and wonderful human being. Porsche owner, good human. Make yourself comfortable. Um, I was just saying, like, I went to Papa Roach and Rise Against. So I thought it was Saturday night. I put it in my calendar as Saturday night. And I had talked to Jerry Horton, the guitar player from Papa Roach.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  Drummer.

• 34:58Matt Farah?

  Uh huh.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  Drummer.

• 34:59Matt Farah?

  Guitar player.

• 34:59Speaker 02

  Oh, he's playing guitar?

• 35:00Matt Farah?

  Guitar player. Jerry's the guitar player.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  Is he really?

• 35:02Matt Farah?

  Yes. Fight it out. Absolutely.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Who's playing drums then?

• 35:06Matt Farah?

  Not Jerry Horton.

• 35:07Speaker 02

  That's weird.

• 35:08Matt Farah?

  He is absolutely playing guitar.

• 35:09Speaker 02

  That's very strange.

• 35:10Matt Farah?

  And uh...

• 35:10Speaker 01

  He plays a Dave Grohl.

• 35:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, that would be so... Does he also play drums?

• 35:14Speaker 02

  I think he plays drums as well. I thought he was honestly playing drums in Papa Roach, but obviously not.

• 35:18Matt Farah?

  I mean, he seems really good at playing guitar. And so if he also plays drums, then good for Jerry. And um, he couldn't have been nicer. I never met him in person. He was so nice. And Rise Against opened. And first thing... And Rise Against is like, what?

• 35:35Speaker 01

  Did you hear Christian's sound? Remember when we went and saw Rise Against with Christian?

• 35:38Matt Farah?

  He didn't like Rise Against live, but it was because of their sound mix, not because of their...

• 35:41Speaker 02

  No, it was because of that note.

• 35:43Matt Farah?

  Because of what?

• 35:44Speaker 02

  The one note.

• 35:45Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, right. I do remember that. Now I remember that. Anyway, I fucking love Rise Against.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  You do?

• 35:51Matt Farah?

  I got, and this was my first time I had ever gotten a true all-access pass.

• 35:57Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 35:57Matt Farah?

  Like, here's a badge, no door is closed.

• 36:01Speaker 02

  Right.

• 36:01Matt Farah?

  Anywhere in the stadium. And so me and Crook were like, let's open this door, let's open... I got, I got to 10 feet of Tim, but he was talking to people and busy, and I didn't want to be that guy.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  Right.

• 36:13Matt Farah?

  And Jerry was like, why didn't you? I was like, because I didn't want to be the guy. But I think now we have to find a reason to go somewhere else. Papa Roach was amazing. They were, they were such a great live band. And they are very underappreciated in today's music world. They were awesome. Rise Against was also awesome. And uh, and I think we need to find a city that they're going to.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  Road trip it out.

• 36:35Matt Farah?

  And get a fun car and, and go and see them, and maybe go out for a drive with Jerry before the show. He was into that. But yeah, if go look on, if you're at all remember Papa Roach from like the last 20 years, like see if they're coming to your city and go check them out. They're fucking great live.

• 36:53Speaker 04

  Where's the show? Is it the Forum?

• 36:55Matt Farah?

  The Forum. Sold it out. Sold it out. It was a real delight.

• 36:59Speaker 04

  I thought you guys were white clawing. I thought this is really, I'm gonna tap out so Jay Ryan can tap in.

• 37:04Matt Farah?

  Alright, Jay Ryan in the house. Christian's gonna, Christian and Johnny have committed to hanging out all day. So, they're gonna, they're gonna tap in and out.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  All-Stars.

• 37:12Speaker 04

  Johnny came out and he was like, "Next up!"

• 37:14Matt Farah?

  I saw, I saw Pat Long is here and Marco. Okay, so after, so at 11 o'clock after you, we're gonna do half hour shifts. And then, and you can stick around for multiple shifts, but I wanna get it going. Hi guys! Hey buddy! Jay Ryan, Phil Moore. Get the mic a little closer to you, buddy. Wanted to crack on here, oh yeah, I should be a professional. I know this, as a matter of fact. Aren't you like a voice actor?

• 37:36Speaker 04

  But I do speak for my diaphragm, so it does travel.

• 37:40Matt Farah?

  It'll turn you down a bit. Do I need to hand you a script for like a cartoon or something?

• 37:43Speaker 04

  No, I'm good. I'm good with improv. I'm really good with improv.

• 37:45Matt Farah?

  What's going on? You've never been in our program before?

• 37:48Speaker 04

  Never, I haven't been in this facility.

• 37:49Matt Farah?

  Isn't it nice? Did you walk around?

• 37:51Speaker 04

  Absolutely. No, I'm gonna get Jay a tour.

• 37:52Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay, yeah. Make my boys do it. They're, they're trained. They can tell you all the... I'm gonna take the tour. Jay did our studio. Yeah, this room I know very well. Jay did this room. For, for people at home who don't know, Jay Ryan is a, is a, he's done Hollywood movie cars, he's done behind the scenes crew stuff at a variety of film and television shows. He runs Good Vibes Breakfast Club up at, at Newcombe's Ranch. He drives that famous yellow 997 with the meatball on the side of it.

• 38:21Speaker 04

  Yellow car.

• 38:22Matt Farah?

  And, uh, all-around friend of the show. And, and, and on top of everything else, built this studio.

• 38:27Speaker 04

  So he's not just a friend of the show, he's, he's like, he's embedded.

• 38:30Matt Farah?

  Well, technically, he's a W9 employee. Independent contractor, non-covered by workers comp.

• 38:38Matt Farah?

  No tripping, no tripping.

• 38:40Speaker 04

  I got a good lawyer for you if you need it though.

• 38:42Matt Farah?

  Jackie!

• 38:43Speaker 04

  How that works.

• 38:43Matt Farah?

  And of course, you know, Phil is legendary Jackie from Seinfeld and a gentleman who knows a thing or two about sports cars.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  I've enjoyed them in my life and I think I'm one of the more like John Q. Public car guys as opposed to the wrencher, exactly, and I've talked about this before. I don't wrench, but I love cars. I did go to auto setup to LA Art Center Design for six months for automotive design.

• 39:10Matt Farah?

  Did you really?

• 39:11Speaker 04

  I did, and it got a little too engineering intensive for me.

• 39:14Matt Farah?

  What years was that?

• 39:15Speaker 04

  1977.

• 39:17Matt Farah?

  Oh wow.

• 39:17Speaker 04

  1977, because right after that is when I started acting.

• 39:19Matt Farah?

  Did you meet anyone who went on to do anything awesome that you remember?

• 39:23Speaker 04

  Not that I can recall. I remember a lot of time in my car, which was a Pinto at the time, trying to do these like drag coefficient numbers and as soon as like, as it was like blurry.

• 39:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 39:34Speaker 04

  Like I'm out.

• 39:35Matt Farah?

  You're like, I just want to draw this shit.

• 39:36Speaker 04

  I just want to draw cool stuff.

• 39:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 39:38Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? So, yeah, so I bounced out of that, went on location with my dad and became an actor.

• 39:42Matt Farah?

  It's funny, what's really funny is that you ended up at Art Center.

• 39:46Speaker 04

  Just saying.

• 39:47Matt Farah?

  Like, just because like, I've said this on our show throughout the years a million times, I wanted to draw cars when I was a kid. And I got some actually really bad advice from really smart people who all said, oh, you want to design cars, you need to be a mechanical engineer. And they sent me to a place where people learned to design parts, not cars. What's funny is you went to the place I should have gone to.

• 40:11Speaker 04

  Right.

• 40:12Matt Farah?

  But six months in, have what is a very similar complaint to I would, what I would have had about engineering school after the same period of time. So the grass, not always fucking greener.

• 40:23Speaker 04

  Not always, I mean, you gotta make sure the car runs, runs well, that all four contact patches stay on the ground.

• 40:28Matt Farah?

  Listen, the richest man in the world would absolutely disagree. That is not important at all.

• 40:34Speaker 04

  Or empathy. Well, yeah, I digress.

• 40:36Matt Farah?

  Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Toxic empathy.

• 40:39Speaker 04

  Well, thank you for having me, I'm honored to be here. I feel, I feel a little bit like a.

• 40:42Matt Farah?

  It's nice to have you.

• 40:43Speaker 04

  Like a cheater, I'm like a.

• 40:44Matt Farah?

  What'd you drive up today?

• 40:45Speaker 04

  I brought my 9911.

• 40:47Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 40:47Speaker 04

  I was gonna drive the RA, but I drove it all the way around town yesterday with my nephew, so I give him a break.

• 40:53Matt Farah?

  You are, you are a man with good taste in cars.

• 40:56Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 40:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 40:56Speaker 04

  Thank you, I've lucked out. No, not lucked out. You've actively chosen good cars.

• 41:01Speaker 05

  You've had good ones over the years. It's not just right now you've got a good start.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  But I say lucky because, yes, I like what I like and I research the shit out of it. I think I make my own luck because then I try to find the vehicle that not only right for me, but then I can troubleshoot and see if it really is right for me as opposed to the way it looks or what everybody says, so.

• 41:20Matt Farah?

  When, um, okay, so do you, when you are acquiring cars, because you have a couple, not a crazy amount, but a couple, uh, do you approach it, um, passion first or sort of objective first?

• 41:33Speaker 04

  Always passion.

• 41:34Matt Farah?

  Okay, so it's, well, it's, I've always wanted

• 41:37Speaker 04

  Right.

• 41:37Matt Farah?

  this, what is, what, what version of that can I afford?

• 41:40Speaker 04

  Right, exactly. Like when I had the R8 and I was talking to Jay and I was like, I gotta get back into a 911, remember? We were like.

• 41:46Speaker 05

  We gotta get you back into a 911.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 41:48Speaker 05

  Because you had so many in the past, I couldn't understand why you were driving on that road with that one now.

• 41:52Speaker 04

  Agreed, and I understood.

• 41:53Speaker 05

  So like next week he shows up.

• 41:55Speaker 04

  So I manifested, I don't really talk about much that I don't do.

• 41:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 41:59Speaker 04

  You know what I mean?

• 42:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  I mean, I dream and I manifest a lot of stuff, but I don't really kind of fantasize. I like to ground it, so when I start talking about something.

• 42:07Matt Farah?

  What was it about the R8 in the first place? It's a lovely car.

• 42:10Speaker 04

  It's an interesting story. My best friend.

• 42:12Matt Farah?

  I've seen it, but tell the people what it looks like.

• 42:15Speaker 04

  It's an R8, 2018 R8 rear-wheel, rear-wheel series, which is a non-quattro, rear-wheel series drive car, uh, normally aspirated, no turbos, so it's just a real mid-engine rocket. Um, I had, I had actually counseled my buddy who bought it, I bought it from him, to buy the Aston Martin at the time.

• 42:35Matt Farah?

  The Vantage, the 18? This would have been Vantage?

• 42:37Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 42:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah?

• 42:38Speaker 04

  And then Jonny Lieberman, who you just had, did a road test between the Aston Martin I wanted to buy and the R8.

• 42:45Matt Farah?

  Fell. Read the sign, bro. No, don't bang on the table. The audience hates it.

• 42:48Speaker 04

  I should be a professional.

• 42:50Matt Farah?

  You're a fucking professional. Let's go. So Johnny, Johnny, uh, swung the hammer the other way?

• 42:55Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, well, he actually picked the Aston Martin.

• 42:57Matt Farah?

  Uh huh.

• 42:58Speaker 04

  Which I advocated my friend to buy, but he didn't buy that.

• 43:00Speaker 05

  And you didn't want to buy the car that Johnny backed. You're like, nope, I'll go the other way.

• 43:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I, that's, I think, I think that is the correct course of action.

• 43:07Speaker 05

  Sounds like you heard what Johnny's verdict was and you went, well, that can't be right.

• 43:09Speaker 04

  No, no, it's exactly the opposite. I actually advocated for the Aston Martin. My buddy went against him, but my guy has a heart condition and he was forced to sell the car because he couldn't drive any longer. So I went to Nashville and I picked the car up and I drove it to Atlanta where I was doing a job. And I loved it so much that I asked him what he would, what I could give him for it. He told me and I paid it and I'm really happy.

• 43:34Matt Farah?

  You drove it home?

• 43:34Speaker 04

  No, I put it on the trailer.

• 43:36Matt Farah?

  That's okay.

• 43:36Speaker 04

  And drove it home, but.

• 43:37Matt Farah?

  Driving home is a boss move, but not, you know, it's not.

• 43:39Speaker 04

  Not from Nashville.

• 43:42Matt Farah?

  Bitch, I just drove my car from Detroit.

• 43:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, an electric car, no less.

• 43:45Speaker 04

  It's high con, right?

• 43:47Matt Farah?

  Fucking electric car.

• 43:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, okay, I got you, but I wasn't willing to put that many miles on it initially.

• 43:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and how many miles have you put on it now? A lot, right?

• 43:55Speaker 04

  That's a bunch. Thirty-five thousand.

• 43:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's a bunch. That's good, yeah.

• 43:58Speaker 04

  For an R8, I'm doing it, you know?

• 44:00Matt Farah?

  Good.

• 44:00Speaker 04

  No, I, I'm a driver. I don't ever buy anything to put in the garage.

• 44:03Matt Farah?

  On a car like that, miles are cheap as shit.

• 44:06Speaker 04

  I need it underfoot.

• 44:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, miles are cheap, yeah.

• 44:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, so that's, I need it underfoot.

• 44:10Matt Farah?

  That's seriously. Do you collect anything else that isn't cars?

• 44:14Speaker 04

  Comic books.

• 44:15Matt Farah?

  Really?

• 44:15Speaker 04

  I have a twenty thousand issue comic book collection.

• 44:18Matt Farah?

  Fuck outta here. Does it have its own room?

• 44:20Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 44:20Matt Farah?

  It does. How big is the room?

• 44:22Speaker 04

  Well, it's got its own room, but it's got a big old.

• 44:23Speaker 05

  Hang on, hang on, hang on. No, it's in the master bedroom.

• 44:26Matt Farah?

  Oh, shit.

• 44:27Speaker 05

  On full display with the TV wall.

• 44:29Matt Farah?

  Oh, really?

• 44:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:32Speaker 05

  Nothing but comics.

• 44:33Speaker 04

  My wife made me build the wall unit.

• 44:35Matt Farah?

  Well, okay, but that's, but it's, but it's, it sounds like well-presented.

• 44:39Speaker 05

  Very much.

• 44:40Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool. So it's the whole wall, and then your TV's right in the middle?

• 44:43Speaker 04

  Yes. Fifty-five. It's pretty ball.

• 44:45Speaker 05

  They go to bed staring at it.

• 44:47Matt Farah?

  Do you take them out and read them?

• 44:48Speaker 04

  I haven't for years.

• 44:50Matt Farah?

  You can't touch them. It devalues them.

• 44:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, it kind of.

• 44:52Matt Farah?

  You put on gloves?

• 44:53Speaker 04

  No, no, I do have them in bags and boards and all that stuff.

• 44:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 44:57Speaker 04

  But I buy these big compilations, so if you want to read those issues, I got this big ol' epic graphic-sized book.

• 45:02Matt Farah?

  Oh, where it's like a bunch of books?

• 45:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, you don't have to mess my shit up.

• 45:05Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 45:06Speaker 04

  You can read Silver Surfer number one if you'd like.

• 45:08Speaker 05

  As it were, right.

• 45:08Speaker 04

  Exactly, yeah, exactly right.

• 45:10Matt Farah?

  What's the coolest comic book you have?

• 45:11Speaker 04

  I have two nineteen forty-eight Captain Americas.

• 45:14Matt Farah?

  Wow, that, how, when did Captain America start? I don't know anything about comics.

• 45:17Speaker 04

  He started before World War II, so it's around that time, so.

• 45:20Matt Farah?

  That's pretty cool.

• 45:21Speaker 04

  Very cool.

• 45:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 45:22Speaker 04

  Um, I have, I have a bunch of fun stuff.

• 45:25Speaker 05

  Is it rude to ask what the value of those would be? Cause I don't know anything about them.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  First Captain America was nineteen forty-one.

• 45:29Speaker 04

  Forty-one?

• 45:30Speaker 01

  Can't imagine why they felt the impetus to roll out.

• 45:32Speaker 04

  Captain America.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  Artistic propaganda, yes.

• 45:36Matt Farah?

  So what you're saying is Captain, it's coming back, uh, yeah.

• 45:39Speaker 04

  Well, you know, they got a black guy as Captain America now, so they're, they're growing up.

• 45:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 45:43Speaker 04

  They're evolving. But yeah, I've been, you know, I was a kid. I just, I just loved them, you know? It taught me to read, it taught me to visualize, you know, being in movies now, they're all storyboards.

• 45:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 45:52Speaker 04

  So it really, it helped my imagination incredibly and, and I drew.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  That's why it makes so much sense they turned into such huge movie franchises, because the storytelling has always been there.

• 46:00Speaker 04

  It's right there.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Like from 1941, and it's like, it's almost having a storyboard on the page, like, well, they're gonna punch him here, and then he's he's out of the building.

• 46:05Speaker 04

  Exactly. And the more they stick with that in the films, the more fans like me go, "Get out, that's awesome!"

• 46:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, for sure.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  You know, because we're like, "Fantastic, 452, first, first appearance of Black Panther, yes!" More please.

• 46:16Speaker 01

  Now, do you have an allegiance to Marvel, or DC, or Image, or all of them?

• 46:20Speaker 04

  Well, as a kid, you had to pick a side, right?

• 46:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 46:22Speaker 04

  DC or Marvel. At that time, there was no Image.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  That's true, yeah.

• 46:25Speaker 04

  Um, and, um...

• 46:26Speaker 01

  I think Image was in that DC.

• 46:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, there was no Image. I remember when Image started, as a matter of fact. But, um, yeah, I was a Marvel guy. I think Marvel held my image as an African-American male first. Like I said, Black Panther was the first. Then DC came along with some other characters. But it was the first comic book that I was like, "Wow, I'm in it! I'm a superhero!" So Marvel was always my joint. And, uh, I love Stan Lee, and I love Jack Kirby, and I love those creators, so...

• 46:50Speaker 01

  Marvel, like, well, the comics were super, I don't know, want to say progressive, because it's just, like, they were just, they represented a lot of the world, more than a lot of other media did at the time, like, early on.

• 47:00Speaker 04

  Agreed, agreed. It was like our modern mythology, too. You know, Superman, Batmans of the world, they were, they were our gods and our, you know, we pinned our hopes on, in a way.

• 47:07Matt Farah?

  That's true.

• 47:08Speaker 04

  So, um, as a kid, I loved it. And I, and I love them to this day, I just don't collect them, like I used to. So, um...

• 47:15Matt Farah?

  Are there...

• 47:15Speaker 01

  You mean new ones? You're not letting anything go from this...

• 47:18Speaker 04

  No, no, I haven't sold, not one, since I was...

• 47:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah, at a certain point, you go,

• 47:21Speaker 04

  Since I was seven.

• 47:22Matt Farah?

  This is my stuff, and, and like...

• 47:23Speaker 01

  This is what I like.

• 47:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and I mean, I imagine the stuff that was not easily attainable when you were actively collecting is no more attainable now.

• 47:34Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 47:35Matt Farah?

  And the new stuff, maybe, is not so desirable. So like, here you are with your fixed collection of comic books.

• 47:41Speaker 04

  You're nailing it, you're nailing it. It's kind of like cars, I guess, you know, if you have the ability... To get certain vehicles, you know, you you really research it. It's passion based, you know, you want to keep them in a way.

• 47:53Matt Farah?

  You know, I was just down at Singer the other day and we're going to talk to Maz from Singer really soon. But he said the best customers are the ones that are

• 48:07Matt Farah?

  sort of reaching to be able to pay for the car.

• 48:09Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 48:10Matt Farah?

  Where they go, okay, if I if I sell this and if I save this and and and believe it or not, there are some people that it's everyone who buys a singer can't buy 12 singers. A lot of them can, but like some people.

• 48:23Speaker 04

  Does that make them happier, more grateful to have it kind of thing? They're more enjoy the process?

• 48:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he said they're easier customers. They're they're more decisive about what they want. They don't flip flop a zillion times. They're less sort of needy.

• 48:37Speaker 04

  Critical.

• 48:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they're just sort of so happy to be doing it.

• 48:41Speaker 04

  I feel the same way. I just got my nine eleven back from from Callas Rennsport, who I go to, that's who I go to. And I can't tell you how excited I was to pay them.

• 48:51Matt Farah?

  What did they do?

• 48:52Speaker 04

  They did. I got new tires, I rebalanced my stuff. I had an oil thing changed, you know, just like normal stuff.

• 48:57Matt Farah?

  But it probably it probably just felt nice.

• 48:59Speaker 04

  It's just a process. I'm in there. I'm seeing models. I see unbelievable, you know, vintage nine elevens on the rack and I'm just in an environment that as a car guy, I could just hang out and and love. So it's like the price of doing business, right? That's the cost of doing business. So if you have to reach for that cost, it does mean a little bit more to you.

• 49:18Matt Farah?

  For sure.

• 49:19Speaker 04

  A little bit more in the experience.

• 49:21Matt Farah?

  Dude, we have our, I mean, we're going to talk to our friend Marco in a minute, who, you know, humble brag here. If you cold call Marco right now and want him to do a top end on your air cooled car, he'll tell you like November.

• 49:36Speaker 04

  Oh, next year.

• 49:37Matt Farah?

  But if if I call him and I say, I have a guy who really needs you, then we can get him in, you know, next week. It's a it's like a different thing. And that customer, not for not, it's not my car. It's not for me. He doesn't even work on my car. I don't have an air cooled car anymore. But like that customer feels like we've done such, oh my, you know, oh my God.

• 49:55Speaker 04

  It's a deal, man.

• 49:56Matt Farah?

  Big deal.

• 49:57Speaker 04

  And we appreciate it.

• 49:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they do.

• 50:00Speaker 04

  I mean, I'm talking about it from this side of the line, right? I I appreciate that effort. I appreciate you extending because these are not, I don't want to say normal, these are not average cars. These are cars that require, you know, a certain amount of connection and you have to drive it a certain way and. And when we have people in the village that helps us, supports that.

• 50:19Matt Farah?

  I really hope that there's like, that young people like hear podcasts like this and understand that like if they learn to work on cars like that, they can make a fabulous, a fabulous living forever. It's not like easy work. You need to be an expert and it's physical and it can be dirty, but like, listen, our friends that do this stuff well, they, they make a great living. They support their families. They get to build themselves really cool toys that they get to play with and they go racing.

• 50:51Speaker 01

  There's also another element is that like you have a tangible, you can see your work being completed versus like if you work in a large data company or something that's more like, I don't know, just a tech company. You contribute, right, Severance, you contribute to a tiny thing that eventually becomes a big thing.

• 51:05Matt Farah?

  Well, same thing with Hannah. When Hannah was at Facebook and Twitter, it's like, oh, you change this to like purple and the number goes up by four percent. Whereas at, you know, when she was at Mattel, uh, or she now has a new job, she, she's finally got a fucking job. So yay. Um, at a company called Otterbox that makes cellphone and very rugged electronics covers. Even that, it's like a product that people not only buy a lot of physically, but passionately seek out if they're in certain types of industries. Certainly if you're a contractor or whatever, like name another cellphone cover, like brand, you know, so, yeah.

• 51:47Matt Farah?

  You know what I've just realized, Zach? We had everything good for this show. I forgot my, my fucking glasses. They're in my backpack. Oh. Can you? No. No. Want one of us to get them? I'm gonna go get them.

• 51:58Speaker 04

  That's, yeah, that's rough. I couldn't do it.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Can't read the notes.

• 52:01Matt Farah?

  Where they are.

• 52:02Speaker 04

  I couldn't do it.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  Oh, because we have to ask people the three questions.

• 52:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I can't read my own shit.

• 52:06Speaker 05

  Can I just say congratulations?

• 52:07Speaker 01

  No, you cannot.

• 52:08Speaker 05

  Because I'm sure they said it a few minutes ago and you're gonna hear it all day, but this is a thousand is an amazing accomplishment.

• 52:13Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 52:13Speaker 04

  Crazy good.

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's wild.

• 52:15Speaker 05

  Does it feel good? I mean, I see we've got balloons and a cake outside.

• 52:18Speaker 01

  My wife brought balloons, which is fantastic, and then Hannah brought a cake, which is very sweet.

• 52:21Speaker 05

  How does that feel, my wife?

• 52:22Speaker 01

  Uh...

• 52:23Speaker 05

  I haven't seen you since, I don't think.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, we have. I saw you when you first pulled up to Good Vibes and you got out and you looked around. I don't want to repeat what you said.

• 52:30Speaker 05

  Oh, man.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  You were a little surprised by the turnout. Uh, and I just happened to be there when it happened and I started laughing the way you're laughing.

• 52:37Speaker 05

  I remember.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  And you were not laughing. I was just like...

• 52:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 52:40Speaker 04

  It was a little daunting.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  It was daunting, yeah. It was a daunting...

• 52:43Speaker 05

  I was all the way up by the sign. I couldn't get any closer.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:46Speaker 04

  Now, when I saw you in Manhattan Beach...

• 52:47Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 52:48Speaker 04

  Were you married yet? Were you married then?

• 52:49Speaker 01

  Yes. We had... We'd only been married two weeks.

• 52:51Speaker 04

  Okay, so, this is a great story.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is fun.

• 52:53Speaker 04

  So, I saw Zach in Manhattan Beach with his wife, and I see this light... Like, I'd met you once, I think at GBBC, and then we'd saw each other at the house.

• 53:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 53:01Speaker 04

  Um, and I... They were this incandescent, ebullient couple.

• 53:04Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 53:05Speaker 04

  This light was just shining around these two, right? And I... And I'm not quite exactly sure, but I think you were like retracing steps and going places that you had seen, or you'd taken her for a drive in the car that she loved.

• 53:15Speaker 01

  Well, we were just out... We were out in the, um, the Revology Mustang.

• 53:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  It was like November 5th or 6th, whatever. And we were just like, "Let's just go for a drive in this fun car." Sarah's... Sarah's not into cars that much, but fastback Mustangs, she goes nuts for. So, we went for a fun drive.

• 53:29Speaker 04

  That's what I remember.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:30Speaker 04

  So, she was all lit up.

• 53:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:31Speaker 04

  And you were all lit up, and it was just beautiful to see them. I didn't know that you had just gotten married. I know that you were together for a while, but, man, it was great to see you. And it was great to see that energy and that vibe coming off of you and doing what you were doing. Awesome.

• 53:42Speaker 05

  Zach is a very happily married man.

• 53:44Speaker 04

  Loved it.

• 53:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:45Speaker 04

  Loved seeing you.

• 53:46Speaker 05

  I mean, you're married for six months. That's...

• 53:48Speaker 01

  Wow, you dig some holes, my friend.

• 53:53Speaker 04

  Spit take!

• 53:54Speaker 05

  What's a thousand episodes? I can't talk like a little bit of shit?

• 53:57Speaker 01

  The opening, I haven't listened to the whole episode with Hannah on.

• 54:00Speaker 05

  I just feel like everyone should be very grateful for their wives. I just want to say right now.

• 54:03Speaker 04

  Put in perspective, Jay, thank you so much.

• 54:06Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. The opening, like...

• 54:08Speaker 05

  Jay, Zach and Sarah, by the way, who slept on my floor that last week.

• 54:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:12Speaker 05

  That was a crazy... You guys all were there, but, uh, I mean, that was above and beyond.

• 54:15Speaker 04

  I love you, and I loved Nicole. Don't make me stab you.

• 54:21Speaker 04

  I will fuck you.

• 54:22Speaker 01

  I think Han.

• 54:23Speaker 04

  I will fuck you that it's you, so don't worry about it.

• 54:25Matt Farah?

  If your reaction to me making a joke at my wife's expenses, be happy you have one. I'm just gonna fucking stab you.

• 54:32Speaker 01

  That was a wonderful series of one-ups. And it's like, well, you're newly married, and you're like, well, your wife's alive. And it's like, well.

• 54:41Speaker 05

  You stepped up a minute, there was a false confidence, I don't know what happened.

• 54:44Speaker 01

  Oh my god, so good.

• 54:48Matt Farah?

  And all I have is a pen, it won't feel very good. It's ribbed, for fuck's sake.

• 54:52Speaker 05

  Not gonna function easily, that's for sure.

• 54:54Matt Farah?

  We'd have to twist it. Zach and I came up with three questions that we wanted to ask everybody. And they require a pretty condensed response. You know, it's sort of a lightning round. Okay, so, should we go, should we go, should we go 112233, or 123123? What do you think about this formatting?

• 55:15Speaker 01

  Do the 1122.

• 55:16Matt Farah?

  1122.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  It's easier for editing.

• 55:18Matt Farah?

  Okay, Zach?

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Supercuts.

• 55:20Matt Farah?

  Question one, for Phil and Jay.

• 55:22Speaker 01

  Question one, what were you doing in 2012, let's say professionally?

• 55:26Matt Farah?

  That's when we started this podcast.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  That's when we started the show.

• 55:29Matt Farah?

  Because this is a thousand episodes.

• 55:30Speaker 04

  I was, I'm still acting, I've been acting forever. 2012, I don't remember the show is on, but, actor.

• 55:39Matt Farah?

  IMDb can probably tell us. Jay, what about you? What were you doing in 2012?

• 55:42Speaker 05

  Facebook this morning told me what I was doing in 2012, and I was, Nicole and I owned an entertainment company, and I was at WonderCon with Craig Robinson, Seth Rogen, Danny McBride, and all the guys from This Is The End.

• 55:55Matt Farah?

  Fuck.

• 55:56Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 55:57Matt Farah?

  And now you're here with us?

• 55:58Speaker 05

  Not specific.

• 55:59Matt Farah?

  I think you're the only person in this entire thing whose shit has gone down.

• 56:03Speaker 05

  That's the.

• 56:04Matt Farah?

  That's supposed to be an uplifting question. I was chilling with a whole bunch of celebrities in my big Hollywood job, and now I'm in a fucking dark room with you people. Shit.

• 56:18Matt Farah?

  And he brought fucking receipts.

• 56:20Speaker 05

  Well, it was on Facebook this morning, so their memory.

• 56:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, wow, okay. Jay was really doing it in 2012.

• 56:26Speaker 05

  We were, honestly, that was, uh, that was, we had just started our company, I think, the year before in 2011, Nicole and myself, and, uh, and we were, we were killing it, and it was before things got real. She was already diagnosed with MS, but wasn't like, she could still work, we were both charging through.

• 56:40Matt Farah?

  Wow.

• 56:41Speaker 05

  So, yeah, it was, it was actually a pretty good time.

• 56:43Matt Farah?

  It was a good year.

• 56:44Speaker 01

  Phil, you were on a show called Super Fuckers.

• 56:48Speaker 04

  Yes, I was, you were.

• 56:49Speaker 01

  TV series.

• 56:50Matt Farah?

  Sick.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  You were on one episode, but that leaps out.

• 56:53Speaker 04

  What was Super Fuckers about?

• 56:54Matt Farah?

  What was the name of your character?

• 56:55Speaker 04

  So, you know, if you look at my IMDb, it's got like almost 400 credits, so I, I almost remember nothing about what I've done.

• 57:02Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 57:03Speaker 04

  Other than last week, I did Shake It Up as well with Zendaya, that was a big one.

• 57:06Matt Farah?

  Ooh, there you go.

• 57:07Speaker 04

  So Zendaya's become this incandescent movie star.

• 57:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 57:09Speaker 01

  And you've been in, you've been in a lot of stuff, but that obviously leaps out of the page among Green Lantern and, you know, Justice League.

• 57:15Matt Farah?

  Super Fuckers, it sounds like a fucking hit, what's the, is there a Rotten Tomatoes rating for that?

• 57:19Speaker 04

  It was so awesome, awful.

• 57:20Matt Farah?

  What is that?

• 57:21Speaker 04

  But awesome. Um, I think we were a bunch of superheroes that were just dysfunctional and, and disgusting.

• 57:27Speaker 01

  Correct, a team of superpowered teens use their powers to get high, play pranks, and fight everyone except the bad guys.

• 57:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:33Matt Farah?

  I mean, actually, it's like not a bad concept.

• 57:36Speaker 04

  It was a lot of fun.

• 57:37Matt Farah?

  Pretty decent.

• 57:38Speaker 01

  Remember Orgasm?

• 57:39Speaker 04

  A lot of fun. What was the guy who played Bud on, um, Married with Children?

• 57:44Speaker 05

  David Faustino.

• 57:45Speaker 04

  Yeah. David Faustino was the lead.

• 57:46Matt Farah?

  Oh, shit.

• 57:47Speaker 04

  And he was awesome. I loved hanging out with him.

• 57:49Matt Farah?

  David Faustino, he seems like a good hang, actually.

• 57:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, he was cool as shit.

• 57:52Matt Farah?

  Him, him and, oh shit, and I'd like to hang out with, um, Robert Isler, who played Anthony, A.J. Soprano.

• 57:59Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:00Matt Farah?

  He seems like a fucking A-level hang, that guy. Yeah, he was amazing on Are You Garbage.

• 58:05Speaker 05

  Have you guys tried to get, he'd probably come on here. We had J. Lo and Seigler on ours because of the MS connection.

• 58:10Matt Farah?

  Oh, right, yeah. Uh, she seems, she seems sweet, too. I, I've never asked, I suppose I could ask.

• 58:16Speaker 05

  We should, we should have that. I would love to see you talk to A.J. Soprano, that'd be badass.

• 58:20Matt Farah?

  Dude, I, I have watched The Sopranos, start to finish.

• 58:24Speaker 04

  Twice. I've done it twice.

• 58:25Matt Farah?

  I've probably done it 15 or 20 times.

• 58:28Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 58:28Matt Farah?

  I've done it so many times. I had the box set DVDs.

• 58:32Speaker 04

  Same here.

• 58:33Speaker 01

  He wasn't married until only a few years ago.

• 58:36Matt Farah?

  I had no idea.

• 58:37Speaker 04

  He had the time, yeah.

• 58:38Matt Farah?

  No, but back in the day, I used to move many units. Mad, mad states away. So I had TVs, the flip out in the truck. And I had the DVD player. So I would drive thousands of miles watching, watching seasons of Sopranos. And once you've seen it a million times, like you don't, you don't need, I don't need to watch it.

• 58:57Speaker 01

  That's a podcast.

• 58:58Matt Farah?

  It actually wasn't like, it wasn't, you know, dangerous to drive. Like you could just listen to it, basically.

• 59:02Speaker 04

  It's like the Godfather.

• 59:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah, basically, if anything you've seen enough will not be distracting. It's just background, whatever. But it was great.

• 59:09Speaker 04

  And it's sound.

• 59:10Speaker 01

  All right. Question number two.

• 59:11Matt Farah?

  Let's go.

• 59:12Speaker 01

  What is your best road trip memory? Or sorry, what was your best road trip?

• 59:17Speaker 04

  Uh, driving up to, uh, Skip Barber Race School and getting a speeding ticket. Doing the three day school, awesome. And driving back and getting a speeding ticket.

• 59:27Matt Farah?

  Same, tell me same car.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  That's always afterwards.

• 59:30Matt Farah?

  I wish it was. I wish it was, but it couldn't have been better. And you were driving up from New York City area to Connecticut?

• 59:37Speaker 04

  No, I was driving, this was, uh, Laguna Seca.

• 59:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, Skippy Laguna.

• 59:41Speaker 04

  The west coast, because I'm a west coast dude.

• 59:42Matt Farah?

  No, and, and I'm, of course I'm driving with the Skip Barber hat on. I got this Skip Barber t-shirt on. I'm going 110 in my 911. And they're like, you really, bro?

• 59:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. This is why when, when I finished the Spring Mountain School, they hand you a piece of paper that's like, you are not at racing school once you leave this property. Please remember that.

• 59:58Matt Farah?

  That's hilarious. Sign your, sign this waiver saying I have told you to not be.

• 1:00:02Speaker 01

  Well, we'll have that signed forever when you, when you exit the property. It's like you're returning to normal world 55 miles.

• 1:00:07Matt Farah?

  They still do have that. Uh, they still have that and that, that Speed Vegas place I was just at for Audi had that.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  It's important. People get the fizz.

• 1:00:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  What was your best road trip?

• 1:00:17Speaker 05

  Gotta go, gotta go grand tour, number one with Nicole.

• 1:00:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:22Speaker 05

  We went around the whole country.

• 1:00:24Matt Farah?

  It's like fifteen thousand miles or something, right?

• 1:00:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, pretty close. I don't remember what the first one was. The second one was like fifteen, yeah. It was pretty close. But we did it all in like a month, too, the first one. The second one, I was gone two and a half months, which is sort of like, that's no big deal.

• 1:00:35Speaker 01

  That's why your car is such a legendary car also.

• 1:00:37Speaker 05

  It's been everywhere. It's now been to all forty-eight states, yeah. I gotta get it to Alaska, Hawaii.

• 1:00:43Matt Farah?

  Actually, so I just met a guy across the street. We started down the road, but I was, they made fun of me because of, I was my rich guy, poor guy Jim in my driveway. A guy pulled up to me, who lives on my street, in a green M3 with Hawaii tags. I'm like, what's that about? And he was like, oh, yeah, he lives in the neighborhood, but his hustle is, he has a wholesale shipping account, and he just buys used cars in Hawaii, ships them back here, and sells them here. And apparently, the margins are like fabulous.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:01:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, apparently, it's really hard to sell second-hand sports cars in Hawaii.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  That makes sense.

• 1:01:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's nowhere to drive them, really.

• 1:01:23Matt Farah?

  Exactly right.

• 1:01:23Speaker 05

  And if he's got a hookup on getting a car to Hawaii, I would love to chat him up.

• 1:01:27Matt Farah?

  Well, I imagine I could have him go the other way, too. Like, why, yeah, I could probably arrange that.

• 1:01:32Speaker 05

  My friend and I were talking about this. We were talking, we go, how do we get it, we wanna, we wanna go, well, I don't wanna fly there. We wanna be on the boat with it. So we wanna be like in the movies in one of those cargo things, you know, like, alright, I guess we're in Hawaii.

• 1:01:44Speaker 01

  There's commercial ships that do that. They'll like rent you a, whatever, like a bay or something.

• 1:01:48Speaker 05

  That's what we, that really happens.

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  You can cross the Atlantic. There's a great book called, I think, like The Great Race, but it's two comedy writers that raced each other around the world. And the rule was, they couldn't use private transportation. They couldn't buy a car, and you couldn't fly. So one of them took, like, bought a berth in a shipping container and went from Long Beach to, like, you know, I guess China or something, Russia? And then like continued from there.

• 1:02:10Speaker 05

  Amazing. I would totally do that to Hawaii back in the day.

• 1:02:12Matt Farah?

  I just finished a book like two weeks ago called Ninety-eight or Ninety Percent of Everything, which is literally, it's about the shipping industry. And the author of the book, like, goes on a cargo ship for six months to see like what it's like for the people who do that.

• 1:02:25Speaker 05

  No shit?

• 1:02:25Matt Farah?

  But like, it was very clearly possible to do it.

• 1:02:28Speaker 05

  I just wanna see what it's like to go do that. I've, I've...

• 1:02:31Matt Farah?

  It's probably dull as rocks. But interesting for a story.

• 1:02:36Speaker 05

  That's what I want.

• 1:02:36Matt Farah?

  It's a more interesting story later.

• 1:02:38Speaker 05

  Like a train trip across the country kind of thing, like you do it, but you're bored out of your mind.

• 1:02:42Matt Farah?

  Well, that's why Hannah and I did the short version of that.

• 1:02:44Speaker 05

  What'd you do?

• 1:02:45Matt Farah?

  Vancouver to Jasper and back, just the pretty part.

• 1:02:47Speaker 05

  Oh, that's.

• 1:02:48Matt Farah?

  One overnight each way in the Canadian Rockies. You get the vibe.

• 1:02:52Speaker 04

  Gorgeous.

• 1:02:52Speaker 05

  Get the vibe.

• 1:02:53Matt Farah?

  And then you get the fuck out. Yeah, dude.

• 1:02:55Speaker 04

  Roll out.

• 1:02:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah. You don't, you don't really want to go across the Pacific Ocean on a cargo ship. You want to leave the harbor on the cargo ship and then have a chopper pick you up six hours later. Take your ass back to LAX. See you there, car.

• 1:03:09Speaker 05

  We thought the same thing. What do you think it would be to Hawaii? Maybe a week, right?

• 1:03:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah, probably. No, it is. It's, no, it's like a week.

• 1:03:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, okay, so that we could.

• 1:03:17Speaker 04

  But owning sports cars in Hawaii, difficult, I would imagine.

• 1:03:20Matt Farah?

  The roads suck, dude.

• 1:03:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, I did a movie there for like six weeks.

• 1:03:24Matt Farah?

  It's beautiful.

• 1:03:24Speaker 04

  And I thought about buying a land and property and the break off was that where am I going to drive my car?

• 1:03:28Matt Farah?

  For like six years Lexus and Toyota were having press launches.

• 1:03:33Speaker 01

  But there's like one main artery road and you can't really speed because that's where everybody is. Yeah, it's just not a great place. It seems idyllic and beautiful and whatever, which it is.

• 1:03:41Speaker 05

  Well, Magnum, Magnum P I.

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  That sold it hard.

• 1:03:44Speaker 05

  Get a slow old classic car like that would be rad.

• 1:03:47Matt Farah?

  Not even, not even really. It's just, it, there's nowhere good to drive them. Lexus and Toyota for like five, six years kept having press launches in Hawaii. And, I mean, it was obvious why. They just wanted to go to Hawaii and hang out and like.

• 1:04:01Speaker 05

  The Brady Bunch.

• 1:04:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and if it's like a Sienna, sure, like whatever.

• 1:04:05Speaker 05

  Cruise going Hawaii.

• 1:04:05Matt Farah?

  You know.

• 1:04:06Speaker 04

  The Jeffersons.

• 1:04:06Matt Farah?

  Uh, whatever, if it's just a, a, a, you know, a regular car, but they had like the LC 500 launch there and I'm like, this is a sports car.

• 1:04:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, I see that. That doesn't make sense. Now, a Jeep or something would make sense to me there. Like, oh, okay, you're going to go off-roading and take it to the. That sounds great, yeah. Right, right, exactly.

• 1:04:23Matt Farah?

  Um, well. Huh? Question three, let's go.

• 1:04:26Speaker 01

  If you had 10 million dollars to spend on cars, but you had to do it in one day, what would you buy?

• 1:04:32Speaker 04

  Who?

• 1:04:33Matt Farah?

  The math doesn't need to be exact.

• 1:04:35Speaker 04

  No, first up for me is a 365 GTB4, the Daytona.

• 1:04:38Matt Farah?

  Okay. That gets you, let's give it a mil. Say that's a mil for a Daytona.

• 1:04:42Speaker 04

  Then I'll get a, a, a, a Miura.

• 1:04:44Matt Farah?

  Okay, I'll go, give you two mil there, that's three, yeah.

• 1:04:48Speaker 04

  I got 10.

• 1:04:48Matt Farah?

  You got 10 to spend.

• 1:04:50Speaker 04

  Um. Probably the CTR Yellowbird?

• 1:04:54Matt Farah?

  Okay, though one of those just sold for six, so you got one left. Even though I'm using a high auction value.

• 1:05:02Speaker 04

  I understood.

• 1:05:02Matt Farah?

  I'm pacing the question.

• 1:05:05Speaker 04

  I got a mill left, huh?

• 1:05:07Matt Farah?

  You got a million left.

• 1:05:08Speaker 04

  It's taking so long.

• 1:05:09Matt Farah?

  It's okay, it's a tough question.

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  Oh, gosh, the last one.

• 1:05:14Speaker 04

  Um, hmm, um, I'll go with a, uh, it's weird. I'll go with a 993 Carrera S.

• 1:05:24Matt Farah?

  Oh, for a million dollars, you're buying one that has never been registered and?

• 1:05:29Speaker 04

  No, no, I might have more money now.

• 1:05:31Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:05:31Speaker 04

  Might die.

• 1:05:32Matt Farah?

  You'll take the rest on a gift certificate.

• 1:05:34Speaker 04

  Might die.

• 1:05:36Speaker 05

  Olive Garden, forever.

• 1:05:39Speaker 04

  Uh, free t-shirts at PCA, uh, no, um, what's the last one?

• 1:05:43Matt Farah?

  You have 900K left.

• 1:05:50Speaker 04

  A Cobra.

• 1:05:51Matt Farah?

  A Cobra, alright, that's good, Shelby Cobra.

• 1:05:53Speaker 04

  Shelby Cobra.

• 1:05:54Matt Farah?

  Alright, thank you Phil Morris.

• 1:05:56Speaker 04

  Appreciate you guys.

• 1:05:57Matt Farah?

  Uh, yeah, you're absolutely welcome to hang out and do another shift in a little bit, but?

• 1:06:01Speaker 04

  I want to hear his answer.

• 1:06:02Matt Farah?

  Alright, and then I want you to go, uh, actually no, do me a favor, because I want to keep it moving. You, it's on out there, you'll hear, get me Patrick Long, please, Porsche racing driver.

• 1:06:12Speaker 04

  You guys are the business.

• 1:06:12Matt Farah?

  Thank you. I'm gonna be, this is gonna be like, uh, like the, like the Running Man. Get me Sub-Zero!

• 1:06:20Matt Farah?

  They're remake, they just remade it.

• 1:06:22Speaker 05

  With who?

• 1:06:23Matt Farah?

  Um, Glenn Powell, no Glenn Powell, because of course it's Glenn Powell.

• 1:06:27Speaker 05

  From, uh, Top Gun?

• 1:06:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah, Glenn Powell, he's having a moment.

• 1:06:31Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:06:32Matt Farah?

  Just spotted with Sydney Sweeney in Texas, so.

• 1:06:34Speaker 05

  Oh, excuse me.

• 1:06:36Matt Farah?

  They were?

• 1:06:38Matt Farah?

  Well, it's important that they fake a romance.

• 1:06:40Speaker 05

  Uh, for the sake of, I don't know.

• 1:06:41Matt Farah?

  Let's hear your third question, 10 million.

• 1:06:43Speaker 05

  I like to drive cars, so I would never collect the cars, so I'm gonna pivot to movie cars. I would figure out some way to buy 10 million dollars with the movie cars, because it could never have been a better time to own a fucking movie car.

• 1:06:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:54Speaker 05

  The, the, did you see the Ghostbusters trap the other day went for 327,000 dollars?

• 1:06:59Matt Farah?

  A trap?

• 1:07:00Speaker 05

  A hero trap from one and two.

• 1:07:01Matt Farah?

  Sit down, Pat Long.

• 1:07:03Speaker 05

  Anyway, and then I would keep, uh, have some driver cars.

• 1:07:07Matt Farah?

  Oh wait, so a fucking, so I think, hey Pat, welcome.

• 1:07:12Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:07:13Matt Farah?

  Thanks for coming.

• 1:07:13Speaker 05

  Thanks for having me.

• 1:07:14Matt Farah?

  Dude, I, we're just, I really think that there are people our age that are willing to spend real crazy amounts of money for memorabilia from 80's and 90's movies. Where there's practical prop effects and stuff like that.

• 1:07:30Speaker 05

  My friend just bought the Goonies house and they're doing a TV show while they're restoring it to Goonies statue for the 40th anniversary.

• 1:07:36Matt Farah?

  How much was the Goonies house?

• 1:07:37Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 1:07:39Matt Farah?

  It's a beautiful house, isn't it?

• 1:07:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's got the insane view of a story or actually, yeah, whatever.

• 1:07:44Matt Farah?

  It's funny, that house was presented as like sort of a crappy house in the 80's and now I think that's probably like a $2 million plus house with an ocean view.

• 1:07:51Speaker 05

  I don't know if it was crappy, the family just didn't have the money to keep it. That was what the movie was about.

• 1:07:55Matt Farah?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:07:56Speaker 05

  So it might have been a little rundown.

• 1:07:57Matt Farah?

  It was a little rundown, yeah.

• 1:07:59Speaker 05

  Remember the wife was like, "I want the house clean when they tear it down."

• 1:08:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that was a good view, though.

• 1:08:05Speaker 05

  It's insane.

• 1:08:05Matt Farah?

  I like that.

• 1:08:06Speaker 05

  We went there on the grand tour.

• 1:08:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:08Speaker 05

  It was amazing.

• 1:08:09Matt Farah?

  Uh, yeah, but I tried, you know, I tried to buy a couple different like Back to the Future and Demolition Man props and like, forget it.

• 1:08:15Speaker 05

  You can't get near it anymore.

• 1:08:16Matt Farah?

  You can't, you can't touch it.

• 1:08:16Speaker 05

  No, we ruined it.

• 1:08:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I have, I do have one real Demolition Man prop, but not a, not, nothing worth any money.

• 1:08:22Speaker 05

  Is it on your bathroom?

• 1:08:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the license plate.

• 1:08:24Speaker 05

  Oh, that's screen used?

• 1:08:26Matt Farah?

  The San Angeles license plate is a screen used genuine prop.

• 1:08:29Speaker 05

  Oh, very cool.

• 1:08:29Matt Farah?

  And the storyboard is genuine as well.

• 1:08:31Speaker 05

  Excellent.

• 1:08:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, I do have a couple of real things.

• 1:08:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's awesome.

• 1:08:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, and if I find more, I will buy them. But the fucking ticket machines, you've seen Demolition Man?

• 1:08:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:39Matt Farah?

  The thing that prints that, when you swear, I got an auction for that, a real auction, like a live auction. I was ready to go in for like 4,000 or 5,000, because I'm an idiot, I'm an idiot and I have a Demolition Man themed bathroom and I was like, "This'll be a funny laugh." They went for 16 G's.

• 1:08:57Matt Farah?

  And they, like, they don't do anything, they just like, sit on the walls.

• 1:09:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, it doesn't even print things if you swear.

• 1:09:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:02Speaker 05

  That'd be cool.

• 1:09:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:03Speaker 05

  But it's the real one.

• 1:09:04Matt Farah?

  But it's the real one.

• 1:09:05Speaker 05

  So you get to say that.

• 1:09:05Matt Farah?

  You can only have one real one.

• 1:09:07Speaker 05

  Yeah. Who do you want?

• 1:09:09Matt Farah?

  Marco? Send me Marco.

• 1:09:10Speaker 05

  Okie doke.

• 1:09:10Matt Farah?

  Send me Marco!

• 1:09:12Speaker 05

  We can go, we can transition into 80's movies.

• 1:09:15Matt Farah?

  80's movies with Marco? Is that what you guys were talking about outside?

• 1:09:18Speaker 05

  We just went to see Rad on the 20th.

• 1:09:21Matt Farah?

  Oh wait, like-

• 1:09:23Speaker 06

  BMX movie?

• 1:09:23Matt Farah?

  The old BMX movie? Is it in theaters?

• 1:09:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, they do it on the 20th of March, I think is Rad Day if I'm not getting it wrong, but they had a documentary that they rolled out, so they screened it all over Southern California, probably all over the country, and then they did a, like, an hour documentary on the making of the movie.

• 1:09:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, cool.

• 1:09:39Speaker 06

  I think it was 86 that they did the original.

• 1:09:41Matt Farah?

  Oh, fun, yeah, that is, that is, I bet a Rad fucking bike would go for a ton of money at an auction.

• 1:09:49Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:09:49Matt Farah?

  Hey, buddy.

• 1:09:50Speaker 07

  Hey, guys.

• 1:09:51Matt Farah?

  Marco, come on in.

• 1:09:52Speaker 07

  Spike and Zuckerman are here, and they're on a tight schedule, they want to go ahead of me.

• 1:09:56Matt Farah?

  How tight?

• 1:09:57Speaker 07

  Spike said, first thing he said is, "I want to go ahead of you."

• 1:10:00Speaker 06

  Make 'em wait.

• 1:10:03Speaker 07

  I make 'em wait, that's fine, I don't give a shit.

• 1:10:06Matt Farah?

  Is the show on in there?

• 1:10:08Speaker 01

  Of course, yeah, do they have a single thing, or do they just want to go first?

• 1:10:12Matt Farah?

  Spike, Spike and Zuckerman, you will be on at 11:30 together, you need to wait 25 minutes and then you're on, I appreciate it, but we're not, that's how we gotta do it, first come, first served!

• 1:10:22Speaker 07

  Hey, look, I'm good to hang with my boy Pat, so-

• 1:10:24Matt Farah?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:10:24Speaker 06

  We were just talking about Rad.

• 1:10:25Speaker 07

  The best.

• 1:10:26Matt Farah?

  Get your mic a little better.

• 1:10:28Speaker 06

  Jay was talking 80's memorabilia and collectibles, and so we were dorking out.

• 1:10:32Matt Farah?

  What do you think one of the bikes from Rad would go for at a, at an auction today?

• 1:10:36Speaker 07

  Like, an actual one?

• 1:10:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, screen used.

• 1:10:38Speaker 07

  Oh, five grand?

• 1:10:39Matt Farah?

  You think that's all?

• 1:10:40Speaker 07

  Minimum. No, no, that's starting there.

• 1:10:43Matt Farah?

  I, I would think it was, it'd be more like 30 or 40 thousand.

• 1:10:46Speaker 07

  Eh, nah, that's a bit much, I'd say between five and 10.

• 1:10:48Matt Farah?

  Jay just said someone paid $300,000 for one of the traps in Ghostbusters.

• 1:10:54Speaker 07

  Eh, I don't know, Ghostbusters has a pretty wider net.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  That's a way bigger market than Rad, really?

• 1:10:59Matt Farah?

  I mean, it is bigger, I'm not surprised, that is bigger than Rad, but-

• 1:11:02Speaker 01

  They made multiple sequels to Ghostbusters, right? There's no Rad 2.

• 1:11:05Matt Farah?

  Just see if you can Google "Rad, you know, bicycle movie prop auction," like, Heritage Auctions, and one of them is gonna have one of them, right? No.

• 1:11:15Speaker 07

  Those bikes are, it's 1986, they're gone.

• 1:11:17Matt Farah?

  No, no, no, no, no, them bikes aren't gone, someone's got a screen used-

• 1:11:21Speaker 07

  Someone probably put one together.

• 1:11:22Matt Farah?

  Someone's got a screen used bike from Rad.

• 1:11:24Speaker 06

  There's a, there's a lot of classic BMX collector scene, so-

• 1:11:29Matt Farah?

  Dude, there's, there, there's no cha- That there aren't bikes left.

• 1:11:32Speaker 07

  Okay, well then if we're putting this out in the world, I'm looking for a JAD. Okay?

• 1:11:36Matt Farah?

  A what?

• 1:11:37Speaker 07

  A JAD.

• 1:11:38Matt Farah?

  A JAD.

• 1:11:38Speaker 07

  A JAD. I've been looking for a JAD for about 25 years. Will pay to get.

• 1:11:42Matt Farah?

  Have you been actively looking?

• 1:11:44Speaker 07

  I've been actively searching for a JAD.

• 1:11:46Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:11:47Speaker 07

  For 25 years. Since I got like adult money.

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  In 2016, someone sold one for 17 grand.

• 1:11:55Matt Farah?

  See, I told you. Is that a JAD?

• 1:11:58Speaker 07

  No, no.

• 1:12:00Speaker 06

  Cruise bike was a mongoose.

• 1:12:02Speaker 07

  I don't remember.

• 1:12:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:12:03Speaker 07

  I think so.

• 1:12:03Speaker 06

  Now we're getting eye rolls from the hard course, but I'll take Eddie Fiole.

• 1:12:09Speaker 01

  I watched that movie when it came out, man. I was racing BMX very briefly until I hurt myself and I wasn't good at it. But I watched that movie. I was like, oh wow, they have ramps on the track. We didn't have those. This is cool. And like, everyone's just doing like side airs and like that was the only move back then.

• 1:12:22Speaker 06

  The dock was cool. They talked about building, the stunt team built the Hell Track. And even the pro riders didn't want to do that initial roll in. So it was, they had people on the side that the whole documentary talked about. Like the one guy who was doing backflips at that time was the first guy to go down it. And then all the pros started rolling.

• 1:12:38Speaker 07

  Yeah, but he didn't start at the top. He started like halfway up off a ladder. And he's like, okay, I can make it this far, then I'm gonna go all the way to the top and try it again. And then everyone else saw him do it and they're like, okay, we'll make it.

• 1:12:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's all it's gonna be. You need one guy.

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  You need a persona everywhere.

• 1:12:53Speaker 07

  Yeah, that was a pretty great thing to see it on the big screen and you know, the documentary was good. And I remember the first Radwood, the guy brought out like the Christian Holland Blazer. And they did like a little flatland thing.

• 1:13:07Matt Farah?

  They had a little ramp.

• 1:13:07Speaker 07

  Yeah, they did all that stuff. Radwood was pretty cool for that.

• 1:13:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:10Speaker 07

  It was fun.

• 1:13:12Matt Farah?

  What's happening in vintage racing world, Pat? You got a ride? What are we doing?

• 1:13:16Speaker 06

  The vintage scene right now is interesting. It's all about tech. So Lord March from Goodwood put out a pretty strong letter last week telling everybody that the sustainability of vintage racing is wavering because there's so many buildups. There's so much modification of these period cars. So I'm on the advisory board for Laguna Seca and talking a lot about Car Week and the reunion and trying to get that event. Set up for the future. So yeah, everything is very technical right now about what you can enter. How legitimate is that car and how many mods does it have?

• 1:13:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably combating a couple of things, right? They don't want people racing reps.

• 1:13:54Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:13:54Matt Farah?

  And they don't want Adrian Newey racing whatever it is that he's racing. That is not a Jaguar.

• 1:14:01Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  Well, are they trying to stop people from modifying vintage things too much to where they don't drive like they used to? Or they're cheating or like what is, what is the, what are the mods causing the problem?

• 1:14:12Speaker 06

  I think this is a loaded question. And everybody has a different view on it, but essentially the Goodwood revival was really the strongest cars and the most hardcore racing and a hardcore track. And then, you know, you're not going to enter a multimillion dollar car in that race and go up against something that might be period correct in history in an original car. But the guy's running it way harder. So they started actually cloning these cars. These guys had enough money to build a very, very good replica 250 GT or whatever else. So that's part of it. But to answer your question, I think that it's availability and cost of parts. And then, yeah, every racer is going to push the envelope and try to make performance while they're at it. So I think there's multi-prongs to why they're doing it.

• 1:14:56Speaker 06

  But I think it starts with originality in period livery, how the car raced versus a street car that someone's modified to be a celebration of an original car. So yeah, at Goodwood, you can, you can enter various different cars. At something like Rennes Sport Reunion or Monterey Reunion, you have to have a, an actual car that was raced in period.

• 1:15:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Do you think if Goodwood adopts those same rules, it will make the spectator experience worse?

• 1:15:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, the question is, will they run them as hard? No, I don't think so. I think as long as the parts are available, if you're running a period brake package or an engine in the correct displacement, I don't think it's going to make the racing any worse. I think it just has to be consistent across the board so that you don't have two different mindsets out there.

• 1:15:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It would be kind of, I mean, I don't feel bad for people that are rich enough to race a $50 million car. But it would be, if you're racing against someone who's got a car that is like essentially disposable. And your car is-

• 1:15:59Speaker 01

  There's an imbalance there, which is a bummer, because I think, I love watching Goodwood Revival, because the racing is like close and aggressive and the cars are moving.

• 1:16:06Matt Farah?

  They should all race disposable cars.

• 1:16:09Speaker 01

  It's a type of racing you don't really see, because cars now are so locked down. But, the only way they are, feel free enough to do that is having a replica they can drive, you know, the shit out of.

• 1:16:18Matt Farah?

  So like, I used to play Magic the Gathering, which is something I'm incredibly proud of.

• 1:16:22Speaker 01

  Hardcore nerd.

• 1:16:23Matt Farah?

  But, there was a card I had, called a Chaos Orb, okay? And unlike most cards, which go from your hand, just to the table, right? The Chaos Orb, the point of it is, you throw it at your opponent's cards, and it, whatever it hits, it kills. Which actually is awesome, and that's why it's very valuable. But, it gets damaged during use. And so, it was accepted in the Magic the Gathering community, that you keep the Chaos Orb in your deck, but you have to have it, but it can just be sitting here, and you have a stunt card. That's just another card that you just write Chaos Orb, and you play with it. So, I think if you can prove you own the real thing, you should be able to have an exact clone of it made.

• 1:17:08Matt Farah?

  That passes the tech, and then you go race that shit and bang fenders.

• 1:17:12Speaker 06

  And essentially, the whole class, or that whole event would just be-

• 1:17:14Matt Farah?

  The whole class is built replicas, but owned by people where the real one is sitting in Park Fermé, right here.

• 1:17:21Speaker 01

  I mean, let's also be clear, we're talking about replicas that are, you know, deep six-figure replicas, too.

• 1:17:26Matt Farah?

  Probably seven-figure replicas.

• 1:17:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:17:28Matt Farah?

  But replaceable, not historically significant.

• 1:17:30Speaker 01

  Correct, when there's 12 of something, or 24 of something.

• 1:17:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah!

• 1:17:34Speaker 01

  Let's, you know, let's risk the not important stuff.

• 1:17:37Matt Farah?

  Our homie John at Persang, right?

• 1:17:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, there you go.

• 1:17:39Matt Farah?

  He said, a lot of their customers have the real thing. And they get an exact rep made, and they park the real one in their living room, and then they go beat the shit out of the rep. So, I support that, that's cool, right?

• 1:17:54Speaker 06

  Yeah, I'm kind of along lines with what you're- Thinking, I think you could have different groups that are set circumstances like IROC is going to be featured this year. They're bringing back a bunch of different generation IROC cars, both domestic and the Porsche original IROC car. And those guys are going to run hard, but they're not racing for the ultimate. It's a bit of a hybrid between an exhibition and a race. And so that run group has a specific set of rules. Those cars are all original, the drivers, the owners, everything is understood by it. And then if you go to B sedan and everybody in that class says, hey, we want to run hard and we want to lay fenders into them, then you know, you can have a second car, as you said. So we'll see where it all shakes out.

• 1:18:33Matt Farah?

  Speaking of hybrids, you try the GTS yet?

• 1:18:35Speaker 06

  I haven't. I'm, I'm low on the, I'm low on the list.

• 1:18:38Matt Farah?

  Really?

• 1:18:38Speaker 06

  All you guys get the cars before.

• 1:18:40Matt Farah?

  You're stat, you haven't, you've been downgraded from Diamond Stad, Diamond Medallion at Porsche? You're back to down to silver.

• 1:18:46Speaker 06

  Yeah, very much so. No, I, I, um, most of my time is, is with the older stuff. I'm, I've been head down on a few builds there and Marco's helped me along the way. Marco's always a voice of reason for me because he's a purist. So I'll send him a picture and I'll be like, what do you think? Can I like run a race mark steering wheel on a 66? Absolutely not. And then I get a big bollocking from you and a, a history lesson. But no, I heard you guys liked the car, the GTS?

• 1:19:14Matt Farah?

  We did.

• 1:19:14Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:19:15Matt Farah?

  I mean, he didn't drive it.

• 1:19:16Speaker 06

  I didn't drive it.

• 1:19:16Matt Farah?

  We get, we get one here in a couple of weeks. I liked it a lot. I thought it was great. Yeah, it's really fun. Yeah, it, it, it fixes a lot of the, not, there aren't a lot, but there's the, what the drawbacks of that three liter twin turbo Carrera motor like are fixed with the hybrid. It just does, it's awesome. It's really, really neat. It's fucking fast. Really fast.

• 1:19:38Speaker 06

  I listened to a podcast, well, I half listened to it because it's in German and I, I get, get enough German to, to follow the humor, but Jörg Bergmeister was on and he's very hard on the development team. I think we've talked about here before. And so everything that's coming across is pretty damn good as far as balance, um, setup. I mean, we know they're big cars. We know that this is the present, not the past. But yeah, I'm excited to get, get one.

• 1:20:02Matt Farah?

  Well, I mean, and Jorg is, he's, in a German way, he's very funny. And also, he's such a fabulous driver. That, you know what I mean? He's like dry as shit, but he's funny. And he's such a good driver that you, if you try to critique the car at all, he just goes, "Get in the car." And he takes you out of the track. And he can literally do anything. You know, I ran a lap at a pace, the fastest pace that I could do while talking. Right? Which obviously is nowhere near what you and Jorg can do, but it's good enough for camera. And then he, I went for a ride with him, and I'm talking about the Camry. And that's where I got this from, because he was like, "Just get in, put everyone..." And he's like hockey-stopping the car.

• 1:20:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:20:48Matt Farah?

  Which is a very different, you know? When he talks about, "Oh yeah, there's less dive under braking." And he's talking about that like while doing a hockey stop. You know, and his racetrack is 10 meters wider than my racetrack.

• 1:21:02Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:21:03Matt Farah?

  Also, he was driving a stick car. And like hammering the shift lever, which that car, I should have taken a photo of the VIN. It's DNB.

• 1:21:15Matt Farah?

  But, yeah, I mean, it's funny when, if, no matter what anyone thinks about the car, he could probably prove them wrong by driving it, you know? And you probably could too.

• 1:21:25Speaker 06

  Well, I think we debate, I hear, I listen to people talk about what spring package you run on your car, what dampers you like, or what tire you like. Depending on who the driver is, you, especially on a racetrack, you will drive the same car and it will be on another planet, based on how you load that front spring, how much trail brake you carry, and what your overall speed is, or how you're attacking the brake pedal. So one person's gonna say, "Oh, that car's terrible in ABS, because there's straight emergency stopping on the initial hit of the brake pedal." And that someone else is rolling it into it like they're driving on the street. You gotta feel two different cars.

• 1:21:57Matt Farah?

  And it's hard to build a car that will still drive pretty well, even if you're driving it, quote, "wrong." You know, it should still drive like not terrible, because most people are just regular drivers.

• 1:22:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, now we talk about aerobalance, it's the same thing. If you put the splitter down, it's gonna work. If you're on throttle, it's gonna work a lot less. And so, depending on driving style, that's always, that's always the fun debate to listen to.

• 1:22:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I know you texted me the other day, and you were like, "Air-water, let's go." So what's happening with air-water? What's the status?

• 1:22:29Speaker 06

  April 26th, Orange County, California. We're back. We're growing it. The idea here is just a big Porsche gathering. Everything, all generations, anything to do with Porsche. We've got a big exhibitor list, aftermarket, restoration, artisan. There was an idea in sort of after 10 years of doing Luftkult, people wanted to come and partake and show that what they work on during the week, whether they run a shop or they're producing product. And so we've opened that up. We feel like the venue allows for it. It's gonna be in one hall. We have, it's sold out now. It's 41 vendors. Yeah, all indoors. Lots of car displays in and out.

• 1:23:07Matt Farah?

  You putting my car inside?

• 1:23:08Speaker 06

  It's a hybrid spot. It's covered. We're doing a mid-engine celebration. So your car is gonna be part of the story of new and old. I think a lot of what we talk about with air and water is air-cooled and water-cooled. So taking equals from different decades of Porsche's past and lining them up and letting people sort of understand how the size of a modern car is compared to a vintage car or any of the technology. But a lot of celebrations around race cars.

• 1:23:35Speaker 07

  Cool. I got a car coming.

• 1:23:37Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:23:38Matt Farah?

  Are you saying the cup car?

• 1:23:39Speaker 06

  996 cup car.

• 1:23:40Speaker 07

  Bought last year at Air Water, sending it this year to display at Air Water.

• 1:23:45Matt Farah?

  Does it run?

• 1:23:46Speaker 07

  Does it start up and drive?

• 1:23:47Matt Farah?

  Have you ever, have you done anything besides pull it in and out of the garage?

• 1:23:50Speaker 07

  As a single parent with two kids, life is complicated. So no, I haven't had a chance to take it out yet, but that was, it's on the shortlist.

• 1:23:57Speaker 06

  That's an epic car. I mean, you stole that. In my opinion, the price on that car was insane.

• 1:24:02Speaker 07

  It was the last lot of the whole auction and I waited for it. So.

• 1:24:06Speaker 06

  And that was a Manti car?

• 1:24:07Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:24:08Speaker 06

  Timo Bernhard?

• 1:24:09Speaker 07

  No, no, no. That was a, Timo drove it, but it wasn't. It was Jürgen Alten.

• 1:24:13Speaker 06

  Oh, Alten. Yeah, another legendary German team.

• 1:24:15Speaker 07

  Third place in the championship that year.

• 1:24:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's a, that's a great car. 996 cup cars are fun to drive. They're still very analog. I mean, there's not a lot of tech in those cars, so it's very close to a 996 GT3 car. But no, we'll have some great race car displays as well. I'm excited. We've got a Formula One car, the Tag McLaren MP4 2B, I think it was. It's 85, a Prost car. Probably shouldn't be announcing that, but that will be one of. Our big focal points, do some merchandising around it, tell the story of Porsche in Formula One with McLaren in a great turbo era low, small displacement Hans Metzger built engine. So just allowing the new audiences to be educated on the past, but also plenty of paint to sample, plenty of modern stuff.

• 1:24:58Speaker 06

  We're working with Will from PTSRS, he's putting together a pretty cool collection of cars, both new and old. So yeah, just lots of different things like that.

• 1:25:07Speaker 01

  Did I read that you guys are having like ride alongs with the new stuff?

• 1:25:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, Porsche is coming out, bringing some new product, maybe I'll get to drive a GTS at my own show. So we're gonna set up a track, they're gonna set up a track.

• 1:25:21Matt Farah?

  Like an autocross kind of thing?

• 1:25:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:25:23Speaker 01

  They did that with the Panamera when they were releasing the Panamera at Rennsport. They had ride alongs and drive time.

• 1:25:29Matt Farah?

  They should do it with any of the cars with hydraulic suspension. I mean, if they're, I don't know if they're just doing 911s, but like if I was them, I'd bring a Taycan GT and show.

• 1:25:38Speaker 01

  You need that wave road though.

• 1:25:39Matt Farah?

  The wave road, yeah.

• 1:25:41Speaker 01

  That's the best visual indication of the success of that.

• 1:25:46Matt Farah?

  It's where it's undulating ramps, but they're opposite.

• 1:25:50Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:25:50Matt Farah?

  You know what I mean?

• 1:25:51Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. Where the car goes like this, but it stays straight.

• 1:25:54Matt Farah?

  But the hydraulic suspension, it stays perfectly level, it's alright.

• 1:25:57Speaker 01

  And then you, Pat, you could chase them on a BMX bike.

• 1:25:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:00Speaker 01

  Do the rhythm section. Yeah, pump track. Do pump track, exactly. Pump track.

• 1:26:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you should, there should be an ego check thing where basically they get to drive a GT3 RS and you roast them in a box, a base box.

• 1:26:12Speaker 06

  Well, you know, that's like in some of the PR releases where you have the pro driver ahead of you in a lesser car and you're like, I'm gonna take him down.

• 1:26:18Matt Farah?

  That is literally Jorg and me in Spain at the GT3 launch.

• 1:26:23Speaker 06

  He's in like a...

• 1:26:24Matt Farah?

  He was in like an old one and I was in the new, and I was in the new one. And, you know, obviously I can't fucking catch him.

• 1:26:30Speaker 01

  I've never thought I'll catch the pro and I've also just like, I lock away the part of me that feels bad that I can't catch the pro. In, in, cause I'm in the, you know, faster, more powerful car, but like the skill difference is thousands of points, I don't even know how we measure this.

• 1:26:45Matt Farah?

  Or fucking you, at the GT4 RS launch at Willow Springs, three years ago.

• 1:26:49Speaker 06

  What did they have us at?

• 1:26:50Matt Farah?

  You were in a turbo.

• 1:26:51Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:26:52Matt Farah?

  Which I mean, that's still a shitload of car.

• 1:26:55Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:26:55Matt Farah?

  But, uh, but an older turbo.

• 1:26:57Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:26:57Matt Farah?

  It was a 991 turbo. So it was like, I mean, you were still, you still had a lot of car, but I wasn't catching you.

• 1:27:03Speaker 01

  For people listening, Patrick is smiling very subtly. He's like, that's right. You guys can't catch me.

• 1:27:09Speaker 07

  Well, I think they, they, they lay that out. They pay those guys to drive.

• 1:27:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:27:13Speaker 07

  And you guys don't get paid to drive. I mean, that's the delineation, right?

• 1:27:18Matt Farah?

  This is, this is not a thing I'm upset about. It's just the way they.

• 1:27:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah. But I mean, we're talking about how do we rank it, right?

• 1:27:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:23Speaker 07

  Well, I mean, one gets a paycheck and one pays to do things.

• 1:27:27Matt Farah?

  Dude, I, I, when they, they, when they timed us at the Blackwing launch in Atlanta, and I got, I got us pretty close to, um, oh, Jesus, what's his fucking name? Who drives for, drives for Cadillac.

• 1:27:39Speaker 07

  Oh, uh, Jordan.

• 1:27:41Matt Farah?

  Jordan Taylor.

• 1:27:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:27:42Matt Farah?

  I got, I got 1.5 seconds off of Jordan Taylor's time after 12 laps.

• 1:27:47Speaker 06

  That's really good.

• 1:27:48Matt Farah?

  And as data, we were, we were identical in the slow hairpins and the super high risk areas where you have to keep your foot on the floorboard. I was not able to do it. Fat, fourth gear, full throttle, over blind crest, negative G, like nah, bro.

• 1:28:07Speaker 07

  No, thanks. Not good.

• 1:28:09Speaker 06

  And in your defense, it's kind of like going to the local K1 indoor kart track. Like the kids that work there know every single inch. So Jordan's been going around that thing as we do for days leading up. And you get 12 laps. So that's pretty solid.

• 1:28:22Matt Farah?

  I was, I was happy and, uh, Jordan gave me the little bit, but like, I was like, all right, workday, you know, workday done. But that dude is far, where the difference in the line was so big.

• 1:28:33Speaker 06

  Yeah. It's usually the minimum speed in high speed corners is what separates, especially in downforce like prototypes or single seaters. That's where you, that's where you earn your pay is, is minimum speed.

• 1:28:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:43Speaker 06

  Keeping, keeping that speed up.

• 1:28:45Matt Farah?

  Keeping your foot down where other, where mere mortals.

• 1:28:49Speaker 07

  Brakes just slow you down.

• 1:28:50Speaker 06

  Speaking of high speed, and I'm sure you guys have talked about it recently, but, um, where, where are you at on the Willis Springs debate? Because I know there's a lot in the media right now and I think there's a, a very positive outcome potential with what's going on. And there's a lot of fear and there's certainly tenants and people that are. Getting evicted or being asked to leave, but the bottom line is that place needs a future.

• 1:29:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:14Speaker 06

  It's going to be a racetrack. There are many racetracks there. And the fear and the commentary that it's going to be a private exclusive club and all the enthusiasts.

• 1:29:23Matt Farah?

  No.

• 1:29:23Speaker 07

  As long as it's not exclusionary, I think people will be okay.

• 1:29:26Matt Farah?

  We know for a fact. We're consulting with them. And in fact, the ownership is doing an exclusive with us in a couple of weeks. Where our audience will be allowed to ask them questions. Assuming they aren't straight up lying to us, which I don't have any reason to believe that they are. Assuming they're not lying to us, the experience that everybody will have at the track will be vastly better than what they have now. And the elements of it that may become private will not diminish the experience that the public will have there.

• 1:30:08Matt Farah?

  And in fact, you know, it's like, I would just say that without giving away too much, a nice fraction of the whole will be much better than the whole of something that's worse. Jay, what's up? Jay? What's up?

• 1:30:27Speaker 05

  I've got a guy with a fancy booze delivery.

• 1:30:29Speaker 07

  Oh shit, Andy.

• 1:30:30Matt Farah?

  Oh, hello.

• 1:30:31Speaker 05

  Hey, how are you?

• 1:30:32Matt Farah?

  Hi.

• 1:30:32Speaker 05

  What's up? Please pop out.

• 1:30:33Matt Farah?

  How do you do?

• 1:30:34Speaker 05

  Here you go.

• 1:30:34Matt Farah?

  What's going on? Fancy booze delivery, eh?

• 1:30:37Speaker 05

  Got a box of something for you.

• 1:30:39Matt Farah?

  A box of something? Well, Zach can handle that.

• 1:30:40Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, when I talk to other racetrack promoters who have membership, the debate is always, how do you split the track between race teams, enthusiasts, and members?

• 1:30:50Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 1:30:50Speaker 06

  But usually they're dealing with one or two pieces of tarmac. We've got space at Will's Springs. Sam, as I'm sure you've talked to, he's a car guy. Like, he's out in LA most of the time because he's got a Porsche that's being built or delivered, so, yeah.

• 1:31:03Matt Farah?

  His cars are here.

• 1:31:03Speaker 06

  Oh, awesome.

• 1:31:04Matt Farah?

  He's a customer.

• 1:31:05Speaker 06

  Great guy. So it's not like this is a private equity group that cares nothing about cars and is gonna build an Amazon shipping container, you know?

• 1:31:11Matt Farah?

  And we're, one of the things that I'm doing with them is making sure that the public is represented.

• 1:31:21Speaker 06

  Cool.

• 1:31:21Matt Farah?

  There.

• 1:31:21Speaker 06

  Oh, that's good news.

• 1:31:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah. So it's, I think it's gonna be awesome. And I don't know if they're gonna show, when they come on the show, I don't know if they're gonna have visual aids to show, which I've seen and they look incredible. Or if they won't be ready to show that stuff yet. Um, it's gonna be amazing. LA, uh, uh, forget LA. I mean, even all the way down to San Diego. We don't have a world-class motorsports facility. Like, isn't that crazy? Like, this city of all cities?

• 1:31:50Speaker 07

  By now, it should be, we should have something.

• 1:31:52Matt Farah?

  Like, you're telling me that I can go to-

• 1:31:54Speaker 07

  Well, it was world-class in the 50s.

• 1:31:56Matt Farah?

  You know, uh, uh-

• 1:31:57Speaker 06

  I had everything then.

• 1:31:58Matt Farah?

  You're telling me that there's better world-class racing in, in the New York area than in California? Like, that's fucking nuts. Not to shit on New York, but like, that is crazy.

• 1:32:07Speaker 06

  And there's some great stories in books about Southern California's racetracks of the past.

• 1:32:11Matt Farah?

  This whole city was full of racetracks. The Beverly Hills Speedway.

• 1:32:16Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:32:16Matt Farah?

  The Santa Monica, remember the Santa Monica Grand Prix? I mean, no one remembers it.

• 1:32:20Speaker 06

  We had a board track in Playa del Rey.

• 1:32:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:22Speaker 06

  I think the only two board tracks was like Indy and, and Playa del Rey. I mean, it was like one of the two in the country.

• 1:32:28Matt Farah?

  There's a documentary that a guy made about the history of racing in LA. And if, if you want to learn a, a ton about this in the most boring possible, barely able to make it through, slow-ass delivery. Uh, ma- it's hard to watch, but you learn a lot about all the racetracks that used to be in this city. Uh, Paramount Ranch-

• 1:32:50Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:32:50Matt Farah?

  Was the first place Carroll Shelby ever raced a car. There's a couple little bits of that that are still there.

• 1:32:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah. Legion Ascot.

• 1:32:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:32:57Speaker 06

  Of course, the Ascot in Gardena, which, um, that's where I grew up, going, going to the races. But yeah, so, so many.

• 1:33:02Speaker 07

  I, I hope that, uh, they use the dirt oval at Willow. Uh, I guess, yeah.

• 1:33:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:33:09Speaker 07

  We definitely need to get some open-wheel dirt stuff that's not just in Ventura.

• 1:33:13Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:33:13Speaker 07

  You know?

• 1:33:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:14Speaker 07

  We need to go a little faster and get wings on the roof, cause there's nothing like watching the roundy rounds.

• 1:33:19Matt Farah?

  Sprint racing, the Southern California.

• 1:33:20Speaker 07

  Yeah, the roundy rounds are fun.

• 1:33:21Matt Farah?

  The crosskarts. Those little guys, they're, they're rad. Yeah. Little motorcycle engines.

• 1:33:26Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:33:27Matt Farah?

  They kick ass.

• 1:33:27Speaker 06

  And the oval at Willow Springs is legit. It's got good banking, it's a good size.

• 1:33:31Speaker 07

  The dirt or the, or the paved? Cause I think, don't they have a paved oval too, right? I think I remember watching Legends cars there.

• 1:33:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:37Speaker 07

  Well, that was fun.

• 1:33:38Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's tight, but it's a good one.

• 1:33:39Matt Farah?

  We're driving Legends cars next weekend. I'm so excited.

• 1:33:42Speaker 06

  We're at-

• 1:33:42Speaker 07

  Nice.

• 1:33:43Matt Farah?

  Zach and I are going to that 10 tenths, uh, club.

• 1:33:45Speaker 06

  I'll see you there.

• 1:33:46Matt Farah?

  You're coming?

• 1:33:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:33:46Speaker 07

  What?

• 1:33:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:33:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Marcus and Graham invited us, they are the best and Graham is the Legends guy. He runs the Legends series.

• 1:33:56Speaker 07

  Those things are super affordable.

• 1:33:58Matt Farah?

  Seventy-five hundred bucks.

• 1:33:59Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, a season is like thirty grand.

• 1:34:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but you could also just buy one and dude Ezra Dyer bought one to race in hill climbs on the east coast, which is a genius move.

• 1:34:09Speaker 06

  I've driven him on that track at Will Springs in the dirt, just like hand grooved the radial tire and sent it, but.

• 1:34:14Matt Farah?

  A Legends in the Dirt would be a good time, but I really want to try one on a road course.

• 1:34:18Speaker 06

  You're gonna drive it on the new facility?

• 1:34:20Matt Farah?

  He said I could.

• 1:34:21Speaker 06

  Nice.

• 1:34:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he said I could. He also said I could drive something else very special.

• 1:34:25Speaker 06

  Nice. They're doing some cool stuff. We got a Pro-Am on Friday night.

• 1:34:28Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, you're, are you racing in the, what are you driving?

• 1:34:31Speaker 06

  I'm sure I'll get destroyed. I don't know what we're driving. It's a street car, but they're gonna.

• 1:34:35Matt Farah?

  How will you get destroyed? Who's faster than you?

• 1:34:37Speaker 06

  Well, there's some, there's some legit drivers. I think you've got Boris Sedg, you've got.

• 1:34:43Speaker 07

  So you mean a pro, other pros?

• 1:34:44Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah. Jeff Gordon's gonna be doing it.

• 1:34:46Matt Farah?

  Oh, shit, oh, yeah.

• 1:34:47Speaker 06

  Good drivers and they know, they know the facility, so Rick Hendrick is very involved.

• 1:34:51Speaker 07

  Yeah, they're, they know their way around.

• 1:34:53Matt Farah?

  Guys that are gonna beat back, but like Jeff Gordon maybe.

• 1:34:56Speaker 07

  I appreciate his humility. He's got humility.

• 1:34:58Speaker 06

  Those dudes are heroes. They're, I mean, if you don't know who Boris Sedg or Jeff Gordon is, look them up.

• 1:35:02Matt Farah?

  Boris Sedg, what a G, that guy.

• 1:35:04Speaker 07

  He's been around forever.

• 1:35:05Matt Farah?

  I mean, how many people truly, truly crossed out of Gentleman Driver? They do not lose a lot of people from Gentleman Driver to Pro.

• 1:35:14Speaker 07

  He was one of the first hired guns in NASCAR. He was one of the first guys that was doing road courses in NASCAR. They're like, yeah, come on over.

• 1:35:20Matt Farah?

  But he was, he made himself a beast.

• 1:35:22Speaker 06

  But even his story like of Tom Milner driving in the nineties, you know, in IMSA cars.

• 1:35:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:28Speaker 06

  Listen to his Dinner with Racers, not to pump another.

• 1:35:30Speaker 07

  That's a good one.

• 1:35:31Matt Farah?

  That's a good show, that's a good show, yeah, yeah.

• 1:35:33Speaker 06

  Boris's Dinner with Racers is super good and Boris was an old motocross guy. He had a dealership on the east coast and dude, he just, he's a hard-nosed racer like in anything he's ever driven. I mean, American who won a Berling twenty-four hours in a factory BMW, like he's legit.

• 1:35:48Matt Farah?

  Um, can, uh, are you hanging out for a while?

• 1:35:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, I got time.

• 1:35:51Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:35:51Speaker 05

  I sent my kids away.

• 1:35:52Matt Farah?

  All right, cool. Can, can you ta- it's 11:30. Can you tag Team Spike and Paul?

• 1:35:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, I'll let them know.

• 1:35:57Matt Farah?

  Stick around until they get back.

• 1:35:58Speaker 06

  Okay, I'll see you. We'll, we'll connect for the 26th.

• 1:36:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:02Speaker 06

  I'm stoked to have your car back out.

• 1:36:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:04Speaker 06

  I'll bring Zach.

• 1:36:05Matt Farah?

  Uh, I will bring Zach. I will bring my car. I, it's, this show is gonna be like enormous, right?

• 1:36:09Speaker 06

  It's big. Last year, we had 10,000 people, 1,100 cars. Um, Broad Arrow's got a live auction going on. It's a party.

• 1:36:16Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool.

• 1:36:16Speaker 06

  It's indoor, outdoor. Um, yeah, air hyphen water dot com. Get, get it all hooked up.

• 1:36:21Matt Farah?

  Tickets available, whatever.

• 1:36:22Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:36:22Matt Farah?

  And is it gonna be?

• 1:36:23Speaker 06

  Still some car entries. We have two different types of car entrance. Um, we've got like feature cars who show up like yourself. You're gonna come the night before. It's gonna be pre-placed. But we also have added a second section where you can come a little later, leave a little earlier.

• 1:36:34Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 1:36:35Speaker 06

  And it's more of a, a in-feature parking area, but...

• 1:36:38Matt Farah?

  Oh, like, uh, like a Cars and Coffee that's happening during the, during the show?

• 1:36:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, so we're still working through some of those details, but, uh, excited.

• 1:36:46Matt Farah?

  Awesome, thanks.

• 1:36:47Speaker 06

  Thanks for having me.

• 1:36:47Matt Farah?

  I appreciate it, yeah.

• 1:36:48Speaker 06

  These guys are gonna be fired up.

• 1:36:50Matt Farah?

  Pat Law, I know, these guys are gonna be ready to go. Hey, boys!

• 1:36:53Speaker 06

  I said, I said you guys had to wait, so sorry for making...

• 1:36:55Matt Farah?

  Spike or Paul, you guys, you guys, thanks, Pat Law. These two, these two.

• 1:37:00Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 1:37:01Matt Farah?

  Thank you, Pat. We'll see you at Air Water, uh, Air Water on April 26th. Everybody, everybody go.

• 1:37:07Speaker 05

  Oh, wow, so you gotta please don't bang on the table sign. That's a big podcasting problem.

• 1:37:12Matt Farah?

  It is a big podcasting...

• 1:37:12Speaker 05

  I thought I was the only one dealing with it.

• 1:37:14Matt Farah?

  Do you have a sign?

• 1:37:14Speaker 05

  No, I need a sign.

• 1:37:15Matt Farah?

  We'll, we'll get you one.

• 1:37:17Speaker 05

  You have an extra sign? 14 dollars or something.

• 1:37:18Matt Farah?

  No, we just had it made.

• 1:37:19Speaker 05

  I had made some.

• 1:37:20Matt Farah?

  Wow, that's really nice of you. How are you feeling?

• 1:37:23Speaker 06

  I feel terrific now. But you know, I was having tail end of it yesterday, being ill.

• 1:37:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:28Speaker 05

  He, he had the red raccoon eyes that you had when you gave, almost gave me COVID.

• 1:37:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're here.

• 1:37:35Speaker 06

  Now I feel great.

• 1:37:36Matt Farah?

  And actually, you know, because you, because you canceled, I ended up having Hannah come do the show with me, and it crushed. The numbers, the comments, everybody loved her.

• 1:37:45Speaker 05

  Why don't you just have her on every week?

• 1:37:46Matt Farah?

  I, I, that, last time, you were, the last time you gave me advice about the show, it was, they're here for you. Stop having guests. And actually, it was genius. It was actually totally right, 100% accurate.

• 1:37:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:37:58Matt Farah?

  And, and it relieved a lot of pressure.

• 1:38:00Speaker 05

  I should take that advice myself.

• 1:38:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:05Matt Farah?

  No, no, your core, you keep it to the core.

• 1:38:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:38:08Speaker 02

  Oh, I thought I was getting out of it.

• 1:38:10Matt Farah?

  No, no, they're here for you.

• 1:38:11Speaker 05

  No, what we're saying is on our show, we should stop having guests and it should just be us. People like to visit with us every week. And they say that every once in a while.

• 1:38:18Matt Farah?

  For most of the thousand episodes of this show, probably 750 of them, every week it was a guest feature, guest feature, guest feature, guest feature. Some are good, some are bad, but it really drove the numbers. And Spike told me, I don't know, 2017 or 2018, they're here for you.

• 1:38:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:38:36Matt Farah?

  Do the show without guests and the numbers went consistently up.

• 1:38:40Speaker 02

  Wisdom.

• 1:38:41Speaker 05

  It's the simplest idea, the simplest idea.

• 1:38:44Speaker 02

  Sometimes he knows something.

• 1:38:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:46Speaker 05

  Well, it's just the entertainment world. The rest of the world I don't get.

• 1:38:50Speaker 02

  If he opens his mouth, he's subtracting from the sum of human knowledge.

• 1:38:53Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 1:38:54Speaker 05

  Oh, thank you.

• 1:38:56Matt Farah?

  No, I haven't, I haven't seen you in person since you helped me with my little problem over there at the other place getting, and it was so satisfying of an experience to get this Deadbeats car repossessed. I am useful. It was amazing.

• 1:39:15Speaker 02

  I said, let me see this guy's picture. I took one look at the guy and the smile was, he had the million watt con man smile.

• 1:39:24Matt Farah?

  I go, Paul, I go, Paul, I got a real problem. This guy owes me like all this money. He goes, send me his name and he looks up his LinkedIn and he sends me back a picture. He goes, is this the guy? I go, yeah. He goes, you're never getting your money.

• 1:39:39Speaker 02

  He said, really? And then I did a little more and he had 20 unpaid judges.

• 1:39:45Matt Farah?

  The guy was such a funny. And then the conversation quickly went to if he's not paying you, he's probably not paying the note on that car. He said, let's just give, let's just give, uh, give Porsche a call and see what they think about this. And they're like, will a check be fine? We'll be there Tuesday.

• 1:40:03Speaker 05

  Really?

• 1:40:04Matt Farah?

  Paid the fucking debt and took the car before.

• 1:40:06Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:40:07Matt Farah?

  It was great.

• 1:40:07Speaker 02

  He was repo man.

• 1:40:08Speaker 05

  Amazing.

• 1:40:09Speaker 02

  He was a well-paid repo man.

• 1:40:10Matt Farah?

  It was fabulous.

• 1:40:11Speaker 05

  And who did you call it Porsche?

• 1:40:13Matt Farah?

  The general information line. And within 30 seconds, I was up to a fucking specialist that had already been identified to find this car.

• 1:40:24Speaker 05

  I wonder how many looking for the car.

• 1:40:25Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, the dude hadn't paid in like a year.

• 1:40:27Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:40:29Speaker 05

  How did you learn that detective skill?

• 1:40:31Speaker 03

  It's personal injury, so you have to get a nose, a nose for who's got money and who doesn't. Who am I gonna, who's gonna, who am I gonna collect from Zach? It's very simple.

• 1:40:43Speaker 05

  It's very simple. Who's got the cash?

• 1:40:46Speaker 03

  Who's got the cash?

• 1:40:47Matt Farah?

  That is the most important, because isn't like part of avoiding responsibility is creating this web of shit that has no assets?

• 1:40:55Speaker 03

  And then, and then it's my job to just go straight to, I'm the mouse, where's the cheese? I gotta get that cheese. And, and so it was very simple.

• 1:41:04Speaker 05

  So I, I'm working, I was working on this deal for something that I made years ago and trying to get rights from, you know, following the rights for this show that went from Fox to, it ended up at Disney. And they, and they said, even if I had, they gave me a quitclaim deal, which is I'm gonna be responsible for all of it. He goes, there'll be some lawyer out there that'll go, no, we're fucking suing Disney.

• 1:41:31Speaker 05

  Disney has more money than Spike Feresth and Disney will get sued. No deal. And they killed the whole thing.

• 1:41:38Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 1:41:38Speaker 05

  At least today, it's killed.

• 1:41:40Speaker 03

  You know, there's, there's pigs and dogs that hunt truffles. And I am that creature when it comes to money.

• 1:41:50Speaker 03

  I'm gonna find the money under the ground.

• 1:41:52Speaker 05

  And it really is that way, right? You're sniffing out where the bag of money is and then, then the connective tissue, you'll just find it.

• 1:41:58Speaker 03

  And you, and you get really good at, at knowing who's gonna have it and who is it, and the general directions. And I was able to, and, and thanks. I get this little gift in the mail. I, I, what the hell is this? And I open it up and it's a coffee mug with the picture of the dead Pete on it.

• 1:42:19Matt Farah?

  You might like to be having as a trophy.

• 1:42:20Speaker 03

  Oh, it really is. It really is. It really made my day.

• 1:42:26Speaker 01

  You should use it, it's on the podcasting desk. Why don't you put some coffee in that next show and we'll use it.

• 1:42:33Matt Farah?

  It's not a high quality item, but it is funny.

• 1:42:35Speaker 01

  It's got a little bit of lead in it.

• 1:42:37Matt Farah?

  It's like a hobo tin mug.

• 1:42:42Speaker 03

  He's in the entertainment business. He's a producer.

• 1:42:44Speaker 01

  He is?

• 1:42:45Matt Farah?

  Well, no, it says he went to like Harvard Business School and he looks it up and it's like he took a night class.

• 1:42:55Speaker 01

  Harvard Reseda Extension.

• 1:42:57Matt Farah?

  Yes. Yeah. It was unbelievable. Oh, my God. So what's happening in Spikes Car Radio Car Land? I just saw, by the way, our, do you know Teddy Baldassar? Have you met him?

• 1:43:12Speaker 01

  I know, I heard about this.

• 1:43:13Matt Farah?

  The watch guy?

• 1:43:14Speaker 01

  The watch guy.

• 1:43:15Matt Farah?

  He had Sheffield.

• 1:43:16Speaker 01

  He had Sheffield.

• 1:43:17Matt Farah?

  And he had my watch.

• 1:43:18Speaker 01

  Notice was there.

• 1:43:20Matt Farah?

  Specifically my notice watch as the top micro brand picks from the.

• 1:43:25Speaker 01

  That's right. There was, now where is that? There was some Washington kind of watch.

• 1:43:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's a watch time. District, something.

• 1:43:33Speaker 01

  District time.

• 1:43:33Matt Farah?

  District time.

• 1:43:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:43:34Matt Farah?

  It's a big micro brand stuff.

• 1:43:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, Sheffield had a presence there.

• 1:43:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:38Speaker 01

  Jay was saying he wants to, you know, bring all the watches out and finally kind of enter the little formerly enter the watch world. And it's been, it's been huge for him.

• 1:43:46Matt Farah?

  That's cool.

• 1:43:47Speaker 01

  He's super excited about it.

• 1:43:48Speaker 03

  The watches you're wearing.

• 1:43:49Speaker 01

  Well, this isn't, this isn't one of those.

• 1:43:54Speaker 01

  However, Zuckerman, this is the Sifert Octavia that they made a hundred of. It was a special edition Tag Heuer that was made for the Tag Heuer blog, caliber 11 out of Australia. But I so love the Sifert designs and colors. I am, and I guess I'll announce it here. I'm not, it's not a Sifert exactly, but it's inspired by the original Sifert Octavia.

• 1:44:22Matt Farah?

  Cool.

• 1:44:22Speaker 01

  For Sheffield. And it's going to be our first, one of our first, I think, Swiss movement Kronos.

• 1:44:28Matt Farah?

  Oh, nice.

• 1:44:28Speaker 01

  Which is going to be really cool. And I finalized the designs just yesterday with Jay.

• 1:44:32Speaker 03

  Look at that.

• 1:44:33Speaker 01

  Who's really a genius.

• 1:44:34Speaker 03

  Is it going to be a 7750? What movement is it?

• 1:44:37Speaker 05

  That's not all I'm gonna say. There's that, there's just, there's one last decision to be made with the movement and I can't tell you that.

• 1:44:42Matt Farah?

  Movements are hard.

• 1:44:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:44:44Matt Farah?

  LJP is only selling us a certain number of movements this year and that is limiting how many watches that we can actually sell. We only get 200 movements for the year. They can't make enough of them.

• 1:44:55Speaker 03

  You can, you can charge more. Scarcity.

• 1:44:58Matt Farah?

  We're, you know, we're, we're gonna finish this run of this watch and then we're gonna design a new watch.

• 1:45:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:45:03Matt Farah?

  We've done five colors. We're gonna...

• 1:45:05Speaker 05

  It's like, isn't it like specking a car? Like, on this watch, I really got, I, I went down the wormhole and it was really, if, if Jay Turkbus wasn't there, I would have been, it's like specking a car. I would have been like this, head and hands for a week going, "I don't know, but that shade and this finish and, do you know what I mean?" It can really, if they catch you in the wrong moment, an obsessive moment, you're dead.

• 1:45:29Speaker 03

  What's the book?

• 1:45:30Matt Farah?

  So, I, I had written, you know, when you were gonna come do a solo show, I had written a whole bunch of questions just for you and I realized I have, I have them ready.

• 1:45:40Speaker 03

  I, I like it.

• 1:45:41Matt Farah?

  And our audience, I don't think, although they're familiar with you, they've not, they don't have direct Zuckerman experience.

• 1:45:47Speaker 03

  I've been on the show. Don't you remember what you did to me? You smoked me out.

• 1:45:51Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:45:53Speaker 03

  I didn't know.

• 1:45:53Matt Farah?

  It was, yeah. Secondhand? It was many, it was many years ago.

• 1:45:57Speaker 03

  Yes, and I, I couldn't stop laughing. I told the story about a lady that got attacked by a cat and her face and I couldn't stop laughing.

• 1:46:06Matt Farah?

  Oh shit, we've done a lot of radio, but I just remembered about, about the lady with the cat. Yeah, okay, okay.

• 1:46:12Speaker 05

  Go ahead.

• 1:46:13Matt Farah?

  Um, I just wanna know, do, do you have a, you know, your, your collection is, uh, it's heavy Porsche BMW, but there's some other oddballs in there, different stuff. Um, what, what is the Zuckerman philosophy of, of car collecting?

• 1:46:26Speaker 03

  Impulsive.

• 1:46:27Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool.

• 1:46:28Speaker 03

  Ill-considered.

• 1:46:30Matt Farah?

  Impulsive and ill-considered.

• 1:46:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, you just bought a car that, that's exactly that theory. What did you just impulsively buy?

• 1:46:37Matt Farah?

  You didn't impulsively buy that.

• 1:46:39Speaker 05

  No, there's a, there's a, there's one two days ago. He's like, "We're going halves" and I go, "I'm out. I'm not doing this."

• 1:46:43Speaker 03

  You may, you may buy half of my half.

• 1:46:45Speaker 05

  Tell them what you bought.

• 1:46:46Matt Farah?

  What'd you buy?

• 1:46:47Speaker 03

  A 1991 944 S2.

• 1:46:51Matt Farah?

  Why'd you buy that?

• 1:46:52Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 1:46:54Speaker 05

  Impulsive.

• 1:46:56Speaker 01

  Because someone offered it to him in the right moment and he was just like.

• 1:46:59Matt Farah?

  Is there something particular about this example? He said two days ago, you're way too far now.

• 1:47:04Speaker 04

  It's not on there.

• 1:47:05Speaker 01

  This one just happened.

• 1:47:06Speaker 04

  This just happened, so the Hungarian, you've heard of the Hungarian.

• 1:47:09Matt Farah?

  I've heard of the Hungarian.

• 1:47:10Speaker 04

  So the Hungarian comes by and he knows, he's like a drug dealer, he's like, I've got the new, you know, I've got this new batch, you really need to try it, but he called me up and he said, you want a 944? I said, absolutely not. There's no way in hell, he goes, have you ever driven one? I said, actually, I haven't.

• 1:47:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:26Speaker 04

  I never have. My conventional wisdom, slow, stupid. And he comes over with this car, it's a Euro edition, and it's an S2, so it's got about 210 or 20 horsepower.

• 1:47:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:40Speaker 04

  But I got in this thing and it is the BRZ of its day.

• 1:47:43Matt Farah?

  Oh, it absolutely is. That's 100% accurate. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:47:47Speaker 04

  It's the BRZ of the day and it's low.

• 1:47:49Matt Farah?

  In fact, it's almost like a BRZ of today.

• 1:47:53Matt Farah?

  The numbers are pretty similar to today's BRZ.

• 1:47:55Speaker 04

  Absolutely. So we went driving it around and this one was in surprisingly good condition. And at the price point, which is minimal.

• 1:48:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:06Speaker 04

  If I was to split it in half, it would be very minimal.

• 1:48:09Speaker 01

  Which you did, with the Hungarian.

• 1:48:11Speaker 04

  Yes, so I told him.

• 1:48:11Speaker 01

  Which is, this is a very rare Plan, like, what do we call this?

• 1:48:15Matt Farah?

  Is outside the family?

• 1:48:16Speaker 04

  It is.

• 1:48:17Matt Farah?

  He went, oh shit.

• 1:48:18Speaker 01

  There's Plan Js, there's Plan, I don't know what you're gonna call this one.

• 1:48:21Matt Farah?

  There's a Plan J too? I didn't know there was.

• 1:48:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, we've proposed a Plan J.

• 1:48:25Matt Farah?

  There's no Plan F?

• 1:48:26Speaker 01

  A Plan J.

• 1:48:27Speaker 04

  It could be.

• 1:48:28Speaker 01

  Have we ever executed on Plan J? We haven't yet. We've talked, we've discussed, but Jerry's tough because he's on the other side.

• 1:48:34Speaker 04

  So it's Plan H.

• 1:48:35Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:48:35Speaker 04

  Plan Hungarian and.

• 1:48:37Speaker 01

  And you don't wanna mess with the Hungarian.

• 1:48:39Matt Farah?

  But what's great about, Plan H is not, you know, it could be.

• 1:48:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we could, yeah.

• 1:48:47Matt Farah?

  But the Hungarian has got Plan H over here, it's great. Very impulsive.

• 1:48:51Speaker 04

  We're.

• 1:48:52Speaker 01

  But the Hungarian is a mechanic.

• 1:48:54Matt Farah?

  He's a mechanic.

• 1:48:55Speaker 01

  So he can, he's also many other things. He's a fixer and he's muscle.

• 1:48:59Matt Farah?

  So his half of the plan, yeah, okay.

• 1:49:01Speaker 01

  This is a Jason Statham movie.

• 1:49:03Speaker 04

  But he is, he is the great thing about it. He is, he is.

• 1:49:07Matt Farah?

  An absolute seller of cars, which means we'll have this car for a few months. I'll drive it to three times, I'm gonna drive it. Cause I know that's about as far as that one's gonna go. That's it. We talked about this, me and Spike, talking about how many weeks, months, or years of interesting is this car?

• 1:49:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a really interesting metric.

• 1:49:26Matt Farah?

  This is a three-drive car. That sounds right, 100% right. But at that price point, it's okay. And I'm gonna be in and out of it.

• 1:49:33Speaker 01

  So you think you'll make money on it?

• 1:49:35Matt Farah?

  No, I won't lose money. It's charcoal. It's got a plaid interior. Really? That's nice. Plaid's nice, it's clean, it's got no, it's got no damage to it. It's got 20,000 miles. Oh, that's very low. Very low for one of these things.

• 1:49:52Speaker 01

  What else does the Hungarian have? What does he drive?

• 1:49:55Matt Farah?

  On any given day, usually it's like an M6 with 10,000 horsepower. He's done something, he's done something to it, he's like, he says, "Get in the car," and I drive, and he liquefies a set of tires on Olympic Boulevard. I don't understand.

• 1:50:10Speaker 01

  So he's a BMW guy?

• 1:50:12Matt Farah?

  He loves BMWs, he loves everything. He loves anything he can put, he loves anything he can put an LS6 in. So he's one of those guys, right? So he can make, he can make Frankenstein cars. But I think, I think you've described this car accurately. It's really interesting for about three drives. They're nice things, but like, a front-engine, rear-drive experience is available from so many places in a way that a 911 experience isn't. And to pay Porsche prices and maintenance and repair and service.

• 1:50:44Speaker 01

  For something that's not really their forte.

• 1:50:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Yeah, so, and it's slow to get into, and I'm past the low-car age. I am not, you know, I'm not a low-car getter out of anymore. Yeah, and this thing's very close to the ground. If you lifted it and turned it into a Safari 944, then it would be high.

• 1:51:01Speaker 01

  It'd be even slower, though. Can I ask, you said you're impulsive, but I feel like when I, when I see your posts or have talked to you, all of your cars seem very specifically chosen. So have you slipped into impulsivity, or is that just like the way I see the lens?

• 1:51:16Speaker 03

  Most of, okay, there's always been impulsive things. You don't see them. They don't hang around too long. Right? Like the, what was that? The Cadillac Coupe de Ville? Then I just had to buy just to reconnect to my dad for a week or two. And then I passed that on. And then, so there are some things, they don't necessarily make it. Generally, if there is a common denominator, it's a very good example. Maybe.

• 1:51:40Matt Farah?

  They're nice, nice versions.

• 1:51:41Speaker 03

  Nice versions of, I like to buy the nice version. It's the common denominator. And something that's fun to drive. It's gotta be fun to drive. And the 944 will be fun for those three times. Very, very, BRZ is fun to drive.

• 1:51:55Speaker 05

  But Zach, here's the impulsivity, okay? And I was just at Zuckerman's office when, was that yesterday?

• 1:52:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52:01Speaker 05

  He has a steady flow of salesmen either calling him, or there was a watch guy came in with a roll, and they're like, "Look at this." And his impulsivity is, he just buys it like that.

• 1:52:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52:13Speaker 05

  So that's the, it's, it's, they're great cars, but he's getting pitched a lot.

• 1:52:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52:18Speaker 01

  So you're not going out and finding them.

• 1:52:21Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:52:22Speaker 01

  But someone comes to you and says, "Here's a really good thing you'll like."

• 1:52:24Speaker 03

  If you become known as the guy who buys the really good stuff.

• 1:52:27Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:52:27Speaker 03

  The people are gonna find out and they're gonna come to you. I don't have to go, I don't have to be scouring the web anymore. No, no. And in fact, Jerry said the same shit. He said the stuff just shows up.

• 1:52:37Speaker 05

  Well, well, no, that's Sam. Sam will call with pitches all the time and go, "I found this, I found that." Or in reverse, "We saw this," Sam go, "Look at that."

• 1:52:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52:47Speaker 05

  But Zuckerman is like, we've talked about it on the show. Like, the salesmen in America and around the world, Wednesday have a meeting, and then Thursday they call Zuckerman. Because they know, Jerry and Zuckerman buy cars Thursdays. For some reason, it's Thursday you close Friday.

• 1:53:02Matt Farah?

  It really is funny.

• 1:53:03Speaker 05

  The psychology of the week.

• 1:53:05Speaker 03

  You're ready to make a purchase on Thursday.

• 1:53:09Speaker 05

  It is.

• 1:53:10Matt Farah?

  Thursdays a day, I'm going bankrupt. Thursdays a day, I'm hitting a big.

• 1:53:14Speaker 01

  Cause you truffled out some stuff. You truffled out some money. Truffles under the roots.

• 1:53:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, this is true.

• 1:53:19Speaker 05

  And remember when I said you were gonna, you wanted to pitch Jerry coming on your show?

• 1:53:24Matt Farah?

  You were right.

• 1:53:25Speaker 05

  What did I say? What day?

• 1:53:26Matt Farah?

  You said you sent him the email on a Wednesday. You said by Wednesday, he's bored of whatever he's started doing that week. And his mind begins to open up to other possibilities.

• 1:53:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, and it was all, by the way, that's all was just my guess of his psychology, but I was like, if I'm him, Wednesday, I'm in a pretty good mood because Thursday, I'm thinking about, I have to leave Friday to do stand-up and I'm a little anxious, so that's probably the day to grab.

• 1:53:52Matt Farah?

  Sweet.

• 1:53:53Speaker 05

  Which is about, it's always about, like you know, and in entertainment too, the approach.

• 1:53:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:58Speaker 05

  The person, the date and the time is the most important thing when you're trying to make a deal like that.

• 1:54:04Matt Farah?

  It was an incredibly good piece of advice that was successful.

• 1:54:08Speaker 05

  Wow, look at that. I'm two for two with you.

• 1:54:09Matt Farah?

  And Jerry was awesome. He really went above and beyond.

• 1:54:13Speaker 05

  He was very excited.

• 1:54:14Matt Farah?

  He had a series of cars brought into a certain section of the hangar that he thought we would specifically appreciate.

• 1:54:21Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, that's very nice.

• 1:54:22Matt Farah?

  Where we did the show, which was very nice.

• 1:54:23Speaker 05

  And that's the porn hangar you were in.

• 1:54:26Matt Farah?

  Oh, you were in Hangar 9?

• 1:54:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, the porn hangar.

• 1:54:28Matt Farah?

  And he only crushed my soul three or four times. That's it. In 90 minutes.

• 1:54:33Speaker 05

  He does that on all shows. If you want to watch him do it, he recently did it, maybe seven months ago on Rich Eisen's show, where he just, as he's sitting down, he goes, "What is this? Why am I so low in Europe? What am I doing here?" He does it on our show all the time.

• 1:54:51Matt Farah?

  You and your stupid law firm.

• 1:54:52Speaker 05

  You and your stupid law firm.

• 1:54:56Speaker 05

  He said that to him, right, and then I'm on, I'm on Adam Carolla's show, and he goes, he goes, "I gotta ask you, why did Jerry say I'm not coming to look at your stupid car?" And I go, "It's all a bit."

• 1:55:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:05Speaker 05

  He makes fun of his stupid law firm, he's making fun of my stupid set. It's all, he's just having fun, he loves everybody.

• 1:55:12Matt Farah?

  That's a stupid question? Did you get one of those? No, but he did do a couple of the, "I would ask myself this," and I was like, "Ah, he thinks my question."

• 1:55:20Speaker 05

  He told me.

• 1:55:21Speaker 01

  Or like we would present something as we're like, is it like, is it like this? Are we understanding correctly? And he'd go, no.

• 1:55:26Matt Farah?

  Oh, the dry no, yeah.

• 1:55:27Speaker 01

  Oh, that's really funny.

• 1:55:30Speaker 06

  Pass over with that smart off.

• 1:55:32Speaker 05

  I had coffee with him last week.

• 1:55:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:34Speaker 05

  And he said, you know, I really enjoyed the interview with Matt and Zach.

• 1:55:38Matt Farah?

  Good.

• 1:55:38Speaker 05

  He said that completely without us even talking about it.

• 1:55:41Matt Farah?

  That's great.

• 1:55:41Speaker 05

  He really surprised me how well of an interviewer he was and how far he's come with that show. Really nice compliment. Yeah, really genuine.

• 1:55:49Speaker 06

  Write that in the book.

• 1:55:50Matt Farah?

  It was, I'll write it down later. It's, no, it was really fun. It's just like, that's pretty high pressure stuff if you're just like me.

• 1:55:58Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:55:59Matt Farah?

  That's really hard.

• 1:56:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, these guys are, these guys are like.

• 1:56:03Matt Farah?

  They crush people for a living.

• 1:56:04Speaker 05

  I would, they, they, they think of them like as entertainment whales, but they're killer whales. They're not the big floaty fatty whales. They're big killer whales and they're very difficult to wrestle.

• 1:56:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:16Speaker 05

  With, and Jerry's, you know, one of the best. If you listen to him on Howard Stern, you see two killer whales face each other. It's really something.

• 1:56:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:23Speaker 05

  You know, you can feel it, so.

• 1:56:25Matt Farah?

  For, for 999, it was a hell of a get. Yeah, it was super high pressure.

• 1:56:29Speaker 05

  Super high pressure.

• 1:56:30Matt Farah?

  Really, really stressful. We did it. Yeah, we did it.

• 1:56:32Speaker 05

  Speaking of which, someone.

• 1:56:33Matt Farah?

  Maybe one day we'll get through it again.

• 1:56:34Speaker 05

  Someone just called me and said they were gonna come by. You're gonna have a special cameo guest. It's not Jerry, it's someone else.

• 1:56:39Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:56:39Speaker 05

  I sent the address a moment ago.

• 1:56:40Matt Farah?

  Oh, alright.

• 1:56:41Speaker 05

  Someone asked, some, some car stuff going on? I said, there is.

• 1:56:45Matt Farah?

  We've got, um, we've got this thing we're doing, sort of lightning round. Three questions for every, every guest. And then we can rotate you guys out. I know you had to go somewhere with Spike. Uh, question number one. We started doing this show at the beginning of 2012. What were you guys doing in the beginning of 2012? As best ye's can remember.

• 1:57:06Speaker 05

  Oh, wow. Well, I was, I was prepping Car Matchmaker.

• 1:57:09Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 1:57:09Speaker 05

  Which is right, right about where you and I first met.

• 1:57:12Matt Farah?

  We met at the end of 2013.

• 1:57:14Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 1:57:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, before, uh, on the porch, I guess.

• 1:57:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, but you know, as any TV person will tell you, these shows have like a two or three year window of preparation, which is insane. It takes so long.

• 1:57:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah. What about you, Paul?

• 1:57:28Speaker 06

  I think that was about the time I bought the Tangerine RS from you.

• 1:57:32Speaker 05

  Maybe.

• 1:57:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think it was, it was right about that time.

• 1:57:36Matt Farah?

  And that was your, that was not your first dive into this show?

• 1:57:38Speaker 05

  No, that would've been 2009.

• 1:57:39Speaker 06

  Oh, really?

• 1:57:40Speaker 05

  That's when I moved to Brentwood.

• 1:57:41Speaker 01

  Wait, how long have you guys known each other?

• 1:57:43Speaker 06

  Since 20, 2002?

• 1:57:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:57:46Speaker 01

  2001.

• 1:57:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't know, in 12, I was, I was just getting on the real buy. I think at that point, I had my first hangar off of Massachusetts. Okay, so not far.

• 1:57:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:58Speaker 06

  And I think, and that place held about six cars.

• 1:58:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's right.

• 1:58:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:58:02Speaker 01

  I remember that place. The Dave Altimus place.

• 1:58:04Speaker 06

  And I got that place.

• 1:58:06Matt Farah?

  Shout out to Dave.

• 1:58:07Speaker 06

  Because I broke down on the interchange between the 10 West and the 405 North. And one of those little tow guys, the freeway tow guys that just get you off and leave you.

• 1:58:19Speaker 06

  They bought me right there into that little neighborhood. And he says, I have to leave you here. I said, you want 100 bucks? He goes, I can't. It's 200. I mean, just take me to the shop, the shop. The shop's only another like five blocks. And he's like, I can't. So he left me right there where there was a sign that said Altimus Realty. And, and so when I'm waiting for the, for AAA to come, I call the number and I go, this looks like a great place for storing cars. It goes, in fact, we store cars in the other half. Dave Altimus and Stanley Bauer.

• 1:58:51Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:58:52Speaker 06

  R.I.P. So.

• 1:58:54Speaker 01

  And you said, can you open the door right now?

• 1:58:56Speaker 06

  Pretty much worked that way. We drove right over and we made a deal.

• 1:59:01Speaker 06

  There it happened. So it was fortuitous.

• 1:59:03Matt Farah?

  When do you want to move in? Can you help me push?

• 1:59:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:59:07Matt Farah?

  Okay, question number two, Zach.

• 1:59:10Speaker 01

  What is your best road trip that you've ever taken or memory from road trip?

• 1:59:15Speaker 06

  You want to go a man?

• 1:59:16Speaker 01

  No, go ahead. You go.

• 1:59:17Speaker 06

  In 1994,

• 1:59:20Speaker 06

  I put a key in a 1985 Dodge Ram Charger. You know what that is?

• 1:59:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:59:25Speaker 06

  And I drove from here to Costa Rica.

• 1:59:27Matt Farah?

  That was Dodge's Bronco, basically.

• 1:59:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:59:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Here to Costa Rica?

• 1:59:31Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:59:32Matt Farah?

  Oh, shit.

• 1:59:32Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 1:59:32Speaker 06

  That was a drive.

• 1:59:33Matt Farah?

  That's a drive.

• 1:59:34Speaker 06

  That was a road trip. That was, that took six months.

• 1:59:38Matt Farah?

  Oh, fuck.

• 1:59:39Speaker 06

  I just.

• 1:59:39Matt Farah?

  And what year?

• 1:59:40Speaker 06

  94.

• 1:59:40Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:59:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:59:42Matt Farah?

  Maps, that's maps.

• 1:59:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, that was, that was maps.

• 1:59:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:45Speaker 06

  That was actual maps and folding it the right way and taping it onto the steering wheel.

• 1:59:51Matt Farah?

  Center, center of the steering wheel?

• 1:59:52Speaker 06

  Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

• 1:59:54Matt Farah?

  Okay, Spike, that's a good one.

• 1:59:56Speaker 01

  Did you have to, wait, real quick, did you have to bribe anybody on the way down?

• 1:59:58Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:59:58Speaker 01

  Did you get robbed on the way down, any of that? Or was it safe for time?

• 2:00:01Matt Farah?

  See, the cops, they had, could sniff out.

• 2:00:03Speaker 03

  Who had the money?

• 2:00:06Speaker 03

  We were in a different time, this is pre-internet age. Yeah. So then you would cross borders and you would, you would have to get stamps. You know, there'd be like ten guys in a room, in the jungle, and they would approve your car coming in and you had to go to each guy and get a stamp. And their idea of shaking you down.

• 2:00:25Speaker 01

  Thirty-six hundred miles for the record.

• 2:00:27Speaker 03

  Their idea of shaking you down was two dollars. And you would like, you know, and it would take three hours. So you would be like, just let me have twenty dollars now and get on the road.

• 2:00:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:00:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, so it was, it was, it was a bite, but it was a really charming yesteryear bite.

• 2:00:41Speaker 01

  That's, uh, we, our co-star, well, Tom almost got arrested in Thailand.

• 2:00:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:46Speaker 01

  And it was a long to do, and after an hour, they like did the math and they're like, your fine will be this many baht, and we did the math, it was thirty bucks.

• 2:00:54Speaker 05

  That's not bad.

• 2:00:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. Okay, Spike?

• 2:00:58Speaker 05

  Hmm, there have been many.

• 2:01:01Speaker 05

  I've driven across Cuba, I've driven across Guatemala in a Jimmy. I drove through Vietnam on a motorcycle. I think, you know, did some great rum and cigarette fuel trips, all three of those, that were just amazing. But the one that I think about the most is a drive, my friend called me up, he was going to school in Colorado, and he said, could you help me drive back, and back to Boston? In my Subaru Crosstrek, and we drove from Colorado, straight through, back home. And I remember he fell asleep in Nebraska, and I'm just driving across Nebraska, it's just nothing. You know, just giant, dog-sized eagles eating gear.

• 2:01:42Speaker 05

  Like, and just like looking around like a Coen Brothers movie going, fuck, they could perish, desolate. And, like, in the middle of it, I was struck with this real estate. That nobody is gonna save my life here. I was in college, I really was unfocused. And it was the first time where I felt the weight of responsibility of my life. And I wasn't, you know, and I stopped, I was a very rebellious kid against my parents. But it all just evaporated. I went, shit, I've gotta go and really focus on school and do something with my life. Cause if I don't, I'm, I'm fucked.

• 2:02:18Matt Farah?

  Oh wow.

• 2:02:18Speaker 05

  And it completely changed the direction of my life.

• 2:02:21Matt Farah?

  We got a Carlos Castaneda moment here.

• 2:02:24Speaker 05

  Wow, Carlos Castaneda, very good Zuckerman. But it did, and you know, maybe that's why I love Subaru Crush tracks right now. It was a red, it was a red, no, it was an Outback, actually.

• 2:02:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, back then.

• 2:02:36Matt Farah?

  The, uh, these questions aren't really for me, but just in that spirit, like, because, you know, I was expecting people to talk about a road and a, and a, and a car. And yours is more about the significance of the drive. When I was in college, I was very uncomfortable being alone. And I would surround myself with people that turned out to be toxic and/or wanted things other than my company.

• 2:02:56Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:02:57Matt Farah?

  Because I was so uncomfortable being alone, I'd just go hang out with anybody. And so I drove, I spent a summer, I drove from New York out to the Utah desert. And I, I, I had a hotel room in the desert, but I stayed there and kinda wandered about, teaching myself how to be alone for three years.

• 2:03:14Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:03:14Matt Farah?

  And I actually did. And now I'm like, okay, being alone because of that experience.

• 2:03:18Speaker 05

  I can relate to that.

• 2:03:19Matt Farah?

  Similar kind of vibe, yeah. Alright, Zach, number three, that was great.

• 2:03:22Speaker 05

  Last one might be hard or easy for you, Zuckerman, is, uh, if you have 10 million dollars to spend on a car, but you have to, or on cars, uh, but you have one day to do it. So you gotta pull the triggers quick.

• 2:03:31Speaker 06

  Oh, it's easy.

• 2:03:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:03:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's, that can go, there's, there's gotta be like a Tour de France Ferrari.

• 2:03:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:38Speaker 06

  There's gotta be, you know, maybe even a Porsche 550 or, you know, some big piece like a I-35, there's your 10 million.

• 2:03:47Matt Farah?

  Even at, at, at that price, Zuckerman's like, well, I'll see what's there on the day.

• 2:03:54Speaker 06

  That wasn't hard, cause it, you know, 10 million.

• 2:03:57Speaker 05

  10 million, yeah, yeah.

• 2:03:58Speaker 06

  You'd, you're gonna have to bring this number like 50. 50, you've got a challenge. And you can't say it can't be one car, it's gotta be five cars.

• 2:04:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:04Speaker 06

  Five to 10 cars. Yeah.

• 2:04:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, cause I immediately went to 250 short wheelbase, whatever I save, I'll donate. I am, I'm at the point where I just want one beautiful thing.

• 2:04:15Matt Farah?

  Blue chip 60's Ferrari will do it for you.

• 2:04:17Speaker 05

  That's it.

• 2:04:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:18Speaker 05

  I mean, because, I mean, right now, it's so hard to drive. I mean, it's really killing my car buying spirit.

• 2:04:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, driving in LA sucks right now.

• 2:04:26Speaker 05

  We've lost two appendages here.

• 2:04:28Matt Farah?

  I know.

• 2:04:29Speaker 05

  We have no, we're missing an arm and a leg.

• 2:04:32Matt Farah?

  It's fucking terrible right now.

• 2:04:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, so that's, you know, really, when you said pitch the 944, I was like, I, I don't drive right now. I need it to open up.

• 2:04:40Matt Farah?

  I'm actually sort of excited for the Manx because that's, I can enjoy that while just like puttering around the city.

• 2:04:46Speaker 05

  Well, hopefully, they open up PCH soon.

• 2:04:48Speaker 03

  Maybe we have to do a drive then. Maybe we have to do, we have to do an LA La Paz drive.

• 2:04:53Matt Farah?

  Okay, oh.

• 2:04:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, this is never gonna happen.

• 2:04:56Speaker 03

  I know, but it's a good.

• 2:04:58Speaker 05

  You had trouble driving here.

• 2:04:59Matt Farah?

  I would do it. A hundred percent. I, my friend, I have, I have family in the San Diego area and they fucking road trip in Mexico all the time. Like, it's not that big of a deal.

• 2:05:08Speaker 03

  La Paz has a new hotel that's supposed to be really good.

• 2:05:11Speaker 05

  Really?

• 2:05:11Speaker 03

  One star Michelin restaurant next to it.

• 2:05:13Matt Farah?

  They got the Amon La Paz.

• 2:05:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, something like that.

• 2:05:16Matt Farah?

  Um, I have to pee really bad. Why don't you guys do five minutes of radio while I do that and then we can, uh, send you off and tag team in the next bunch.

• 2:05:25Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:05:25Speaker 05

  Sounds good.

• 2:05:26Matt Farah?

  Thank you guys for coming by and celebrating.

• 2:05:27Speaker 05

  Congratulations, man.

• 2:05:29Matt Farah?

  A thousand is a lot of radios.

• 2:05:31Speaker 05

  A thousand.

• 2:05:32Matt Farah?

  A lot of radio.

• 2:05:32Speaker 03

  Zach, have you been here for a thousand?

• 2:05:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:05:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:34Speaker 05

  I was here from the beginning.

• 2:05:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:36Speaker 05

  Here's to a thousand more.

• 2:05:37Matt Farah?

  I'll be back in five.

• 2:05:38Speaker 05

  Hopefully, a thousand more. Is this thousand and one? This is one thousand. This is the one thousand. Otherwise, these balloons would be meaningless.

• 2:05:46Speaker 03

  Yeah. So you've been here from Dana. How did he convince you to, to even start this and stick around?

• 2:05:53Speaker 05

  Actually, it's the reverse. This was two, in 2009, I moved here. I was listening to Adam Kroll on the radio. And then he announced that his radio show was ending and he was gonna start a podcast. Some drunk guys. And so, me and a friend of ours, Chris Hayes, were both listening to podcasts early in 2010 and 11.

• 2:06:08Speaker 03

  Are you guys live?

• 2:06:09Speaker 05

  And then we noticed we'd have these house parties and people would watch us talk about cars. And so I just, Hayden and I approached Matt and we're like, we should make a podcast because people listen to us talk about cars. Uncle Leo. At the time, it was very funny. He's like, ah.

• 2:06:22Speaker 03

  Hello.

• 2:06:22Speaker 05

  Rogan already has a podcast, Marc Maron, like, there's too many podcasts.

• 2:06:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah, there's two.

• 2:06:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's two. And so that's kind of how the genesis began. Look at what's going on here, Zuckerman.

• 2:06:31Speaker 03

  What do we get?

• 2:06:32Speaker 05

  They're, they're drinking on a Sunday morning.

• 2:06:34Speaker 03

  You're gonna get wasted?

• 2:06:35Speaker 05

  I, fuck, I'm here.

• 2:06:36Speaker 03

  Yeah. I Ubered here. That's why I Ubered.

• 2:06:39Speaker 05

  So you made a plan to get drunk.

• 2:06:41Speaker 03

  I wanted to start drinking. You know, you interrupted a really important story, but that's okay.

• 2:06:47Speaker 01

  We've heard the story.

• 2:06:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:06:49Speaker 05

  I have.

• 2:06:49Speaker 01

  We've also heard you talk before.

• 2:06:51Speaker 05

  He told this story on our show.

• 2:06:52Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:06:53Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:06:53Speaker 03

  Was I there?

• 2:06:54Speaker 05

  Were you not there?

• 2:06:56Speaker 05

  Zach, you were.

• 2:06:57Speaker 01

  We'll go out for coffee later, I'll tell you that.

• 2:06:59Speaker 05

  Who was there? Was it just the three of us?

• 2:07:00Speaker 01

  It was just the three of us. No, it was me, you and Matt.

• 2:07:02Speaker 05

  And Matt?

• 2:07:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, because we did it here, yeah.

• 2:07:06Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 2:07:07Speaker 05

  Well, you're welcome back any time. That was a big show.

• 2:07:08Speaker 01

  That was fun.

• 2:07:09Speaker 05

  People liked having you on.

• 2:07:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was fun. I liked that you had the notes, you had the plan going along, and then the ad read slips in.

• 2:07:15Speaker 05

  You gotta. It's a show. You're not just making it up. You could.

• 2:07:20Speaker 01

  For a long time, we did, yeah.

• 2:07:22Speaker 05

  You could.

• 2:07:22Speaker 01

  But it gets better with notes and a plan.

• 2:07:24Speaker 05

  So what is special about this drink, Johnny, that you brought in there?

• 2:07:28Speaker 03

  I picked that barrel, and I picked that barrel, personally. Why is the label like this? That's how they did the label.

• 2:07:34Speaker 05

  So, so you picked it how? You sampled it and you said?

• 2:07:37Speaker 03

  We had a bunch of barrels, and I sat down with, I sampled a whole bunch, and I said, these are the two best ones, and...

• 2:07:44Speaker 05

  Are you an investor in this company?

• 2:07:45Speaker 03

  Nope. Were you drunk at the time the sampling ended? No, no. Would a normal person be drunk? No. Really? No, we were just tasting whiskey. We got very drunk, like, about five minutes after we were done. Okay, but normally tasting whiskey involves a pi-be.

• 2:08:00Speaker 05

  How, how deep are we into this marathon? Like, how many hours are you going?

• 2:08:04Speaker 01

  We're at two hours.

• 2:08:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, and how?

• 2:08:05Speaker 01

  We're starting 10 on the dot. We're going to six.

• 2:08:07Speaker 05

  You're going to six, and you're gonna start drinking now?

• 2:08:10Speaker 01

  I'm not. I'm gonna start drinking like four.

• 2:08:11Speaker 03

  Me and Christian are gonna start now.

• 2:08:12Speaker 01

  I can't, I can't drink that long. I would fall asleep so quickly.

• 2:08:15Speaker 05

  I see, but yeah, okay.

• 2:08:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's gonna be like one of those Instagrams where they take the pictures after one drink, after two, after 10. That's fun, yeah.

• 2:08:23Speaker 01

  The smiles get bigger, and then they start to get tired looking.

• 2:08:26Speaker 03

  Then there's vomit, then there's, you know, nakedness, all of everything.

• 2:08:29Speaker 01

  It's like a Guy Ritchie montage. It's a very good one.

• 2:08:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:08:31Speaker 03

  So we're gonna, yeah, I don't know where Christian went, but that was the plan.

• 2:08:35Speaker 01

  I think it's a good plan.

• 2:08:36Speaker 03

  It's a good plan. It's all a plan.

• 2:08:38Speaker 05

  Hello?

• 2:08:38Speaker 03

  Okay, you're back.

• 2:08:39Matt Farah?

  You wanna party mic me while Johnny takes me?

• 2:08:42Speaker 01

  I gotta turn that off.

• 2:08:43Matt Farah?

  Johnny, you come party, you come party mic.

• 2:08:44Speaker 03

  Okay. Party mic.

• 2:08:46Speaker 01

  Take a party, Mike.

• 2:08:49Matt Farah?

  Thank you, Jack.

• 2:08:51Speaker 03

  I smell something illegal.

• 2:08:52Matt Farah?

  What is the, um, what is the audience?

• 2:08:54Speaker 03

  Totally illegal.

• 2:08:56Matt Farah?

  What does the audience think about what we're doing here?

• 2:08:58Speaker 01

  They like a lot. Congratulations.

• 2:09:00Matt Farah?

  Is everyone having a good time?

• 2:09:01Speaker 01

  Seven thousand viewers.

• 2:09:03Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 2:09:03Speaker 01

  Views, fourteen hundred right now.

• 2:09:05Matt Farah?

  Okay. Oh, fourteen hundred concurrent right now?

• 2:09:08Speaker 01

  Concurrent.

• 2:09:08Matt Farah?

  Oh, that's pretty good.

• 2:09:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:09Matt Farah?

  Hi, live people. Um, Paul, Spike, thank you for your time. Thank you for having us. Spike's Car Radio, of course, uh, is, is every week.

• 2:09:19Speaker 01

  Every Wednesday.

• 2:09:20Matt Farah?

  Every Wednesday, now on YouTube also.

• 2:09:22Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:09:23Matt Farah?

  In your fancy schmancy studio.

• 2:09:25Speaker 01

  Come see our stupid faces.

• 2:09:26Matt Farah?

  With your fancy production. Um, and, uh, yeah, I'll see you guys soon. Are we doing, uh, next weekend, maybe we'll do something?

• 2:09:34Speaker 01

  Let's do it. Yeah, whatever, man.

• 2:09:36Matt Farah?

  We need excuses to go driving.

• 2:09:38Speaker 01

  I would love Johnny to have another Helms Bakery Cars and Coffee. That was an enjoyable Sunday.

• 2:09:41Speaker 03

  Thanks.

• 2:09:42Matt Farah?

  We, uh, we're gonna talk about that right now, about the ups and the downs of having a Cars and Coffee in Los Angeles. Thank you very much, boys.

• 2:09:49Speaker 01

  We can just meet there.

• 2:09:50Matt Farah?

  Drive safe.

• 2:09:51Speaker 03

  We, we could also meet there without telling people.

• 2:09:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:09:56Matt Farah?

  Oh, man.

• 2:09:57Speaker 03

  That's not a bad idea.

• 2:09:58Matt Farah?

  Uh, we got, we got a few people still in the lounge, so we now have an empty chair in the studio, so if you're in the lounge, come on, uh, come on back in.

• 2:10:07Speaker 03

  No one's listening. We're all talking over each other in the lounge.

• 2:10:09Matt Farah?

  That's okay. We're doing that in here as well.

• 2:10:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:10:11Matt Farah?

  Uh, man.

• 2:10:12Speaker 01

  We didn't, uh, we didn't ask Johnny the questions.

• 2:10:14Matt Farah?

  Well, I know. I was, I was hoping Christian would come back in as well. We can start with Johnny.

• 2:10:18Speaker 03

  He's coming back in.

• 2:10:19Matt Farah?

  We can, we're, we're doing a thing where we have, feel free to adjust that.

• 2:10:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:10:24Matt Farah?

  We're doing a, a thing where we have three questions for everybody.

• 2:10:28Speaker 03

  Do it. I'm ready.

• 2:10:29Matt Farah?

  A sort of, a sort of consistency, uh, to the program.

• 2:10:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is. It is.

• 2:10:34Matt Farah?

  The first question is, uh, you know, we started this podcast, uh, it, the, the very, was it?

• 2:10:41Speaker 01

  January twenty twelve.

• 2:10:42Matt Farah?

  January of twenty twelve. What were you doing in January of twenty twelve?

• 2:10:46Speaker 03

  I was on your podcast.

• 2:10:49Speaker 03

  I, I was, I was on, well, I was on episode three?

• 2:10:52Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 2:10:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. I was gonna say.

• 2:10:53Matt Farah?

  Johnny is the most, uh, the most appeared guest.

• 2:10:56Speaker 03

  Am I, officially? I speculated I would be.

• 2:11:00Matt Farah?

  You definitely are. There's no...

• 2:11:01Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:11:02Matt Farah?

  There, I don't even think there's anybody close.

• 2:11:05Speaker 03

  So, January 2012, professionally, I'm still at Motor Trend. Uh, that was probably when head-to-head was getting rolling. And that was when we had, yeah, the YouTube money showed up in 2011, so we were getting big. And we were doing, we were spending a lot of money on car videos.

• 2:11:23Matt Farah?

  Yes, you guys were.

• 2:11:25Speaker 03

  It was awesome.

• 2:11:26Matt Farah?

  Zach has just pulled up the 2012 Motor Trend Best Drivers Car.

• 2:11:29Speaker 01

  Johnny wrote this.

• 2:11:30Matt Farah?

  Which was written by you. It's got the 991 Carrera S. It's got an Aventador.

• 2:11:36Speaker 03

  And the winner is...

• 2:11:37Matt Farah?

  Camaro 1LE.

• 2:11:38Speaker 03

  No, no, no, that's the Z28, which was, which was the winner, yeah.

• 2:11:41Speaker 01

  No, I think the winner was the Carrera, me.

• 2:11:43Matt Farah?

  Oh, that's a Z28? Oh, it is a Z28, you're right.

• 2:11:46Speaker 03

  If it's a Z28, the Z28 won. And I found out later, they cheated it.

• 2:11:50Matt Farah?

  Really? In what way?

• 2:11:51Speaker 03

  Chipped it, uh, so instead of 500 horse, it was making like 550, and, um...

• 2:11:56Matt Farah?

  Is an LS7 leaving that much on the table with software?

• 2:12:00Speaker 03

  It was 505. Well, look, GM's Performance Division, they know how to make more horsepower. And, and, and they did, they did some wacky like, you know, front camera like this, and it was, it was...

• 2:12:13Speaker 01

  So, you gave first place to the Carrera S?

• 2:12:15Matt Farah?

  So, Johnny, I think we're getting the year wrong.

• 2:12:17Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:12:18Matt Farah?

  The 2012 would have been ZL1 with the CTS-V engine. 14 or 15 would have been Z28.

• 2:12:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, Carrera S, there you go.

• 2:12:28Speaker 01

  A question I want to ask is...

• 2:12:29Speaker 03

  It all blurs together.

• 2:12:30Speaker 01

  Of course. Do you still agree with that assessment, or do you think?

• 2:12:32Speaker 03

  Can we run through the cars real quick, and I'll tell you?

• 2:12:35Speaker 01

  Let's, uh...

• 2:12:35Matt Farah?

  It's like a C63.

• 2:12:37Speaker 03

  I'll tell you, I'll tell you something really funny about the C63 being second place. So, Tobias, uh, who was then the, uh, head engineer, he wasn't CEO yet of AMG, he came to the office. And I said, "Oh, you did the C63 Black Series? Like, we love that car, man. We just gave it second place in Best Drivers Car." And he's like, "Second place, what was first?" And I was like, "Oh, the, the new 991." He's like, "Oh, yeah, it's a very good car."

• 2:13:03Speaker 03

  There's no like list on the thing.

• 2:13:05Matt Farah?

  Well, we can go ahead and look at the photo. I saw a Nissan GTR. I don't know what edition it was, but it was 2012.

• 2:13:11Speaker 03

  Black edition, probably.

• 2:13:12Matt Farah?

  Black or Ismo, maybe.

• 2:13:13Speaker 03

  This website is inoperable.

• 2:13:14Matt Farah?

  We've got the ZL1. I see a McLaren MP4 12C. I see an Aventador, a C63 coupe and something, one other car I can't quite identify.

• 2:13:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a C63 black. I remember this year that the Aventador was like hot garbage. It was like really, really bad.

• 2:13:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the first Aventadors were awful.

• 2:13:33Speaker 03

  And no one would believe me. And I'm like, no, I think we put it like ninth or 10th. No, no, last, ninth.

• 2:13:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like they didn't turn for shit.

• 2:13:41Speaker 03

  And I'll tell you how bad it was. Lambo wasn't mad.

• 2:13:46Speaker 03

  Do you remember like if you would give last place to a Ferrari, what would happen, right? Lambo was like, okay, next.

• 2:13:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was really bad.

• 2:13:54Speaker 03

  And I remember the McLaren was just felt like one of the most unfinished things I'd ever driven. And then what was interesting.

• 2:14:02Matt Farah?

  Jaguar XKRS.

• 2:14:04Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, that was a fun car.

• 2:14:05Matt Farah?

  Which actually as a road car is fabulous. It's a really good car, but on a track, obviously it's not.

• 2:14:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, that one I honestly, I don't remember. I remember, I remember the McLaren like was, was like a standout in terms of like performance. Like the lap time we got out was really good. But like it just, it just sounded like you were sitting inside of a dentist drill. It was just this horrible noise. And then we just, yeah, it was, and it turned out it was unfinished. It took them like six more years to finish it.

• 2:14:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, eventually it got quite good. Okay, well, I understand. So that's what you're doing.

• 2:14:39Speaker 03

  GT500, yeah.

• 2:14:40Matt Farah?

  You were doing what you're doing now.

• 2:14:42Speaker 03

  Kind of, although we got rid of that. So there's a lot less interesting these days.

• 2:14:46Matt Farah?

  Uh, the next question is, uh, best road trip ever. And you've been on so many like curated ones that that's really hard. I could limit it to best like ones outside of work, but it's so much crossover that I think we can include.

• 2:15:01Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 2:15:01Matt Farah?

  We can include work related road trips.

• 2:15:02Speaker 03

  Best. Well, I'll tell you, no, I won't tell you that story. Uh, hang on. Uh, best, best, best. Jethro and I.

• 2:15:13Speaker 03

  Did one where we went to Newport Pagnell, which is the former headquarters of Aston Martin. And it's currently the Aston Martin Works Center.

• 2:15:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's where they did my vanquish.

• 2:15:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, and, and so all the old timey stuff goes on there. And, um, we had a, uh, vanquish, the then new vanquish, not the new vanquish.

• 2:15:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:32Speaker 03

  And we had the new Bentley Continental GT. And the idea was to drive from there to Le Mans.

• 2:15:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, hello.

• 2:15:40Speaker 03

  Have a seat.

• 2:15:41Matt Farah?

  Sarah Trimble enters the studio.

• 2:15:43Speaker 03

  Hello, Sarah. A reschedule.

• 2:15:45Matt Farah?

  A res- part of a reschedule club.

• 2:15:47Speaker 03

  That hair is amazing.

• 2:15:49Matt Farah?

  I want to be in here. Can I stay for five minutes? You don't want to be in here? You brought me a card? Yes. On your day of your daughter's wedding. Uh, thank you. Should I read it now? Sarah Trimble is a Hollywood stunt driver, a very good friend of mine, and also did most of the interior design in our home, along with her business partner Webb, who is also a genius. Oh, thank you so much. There's a thing on the front. Got a pole. Oh, what do I do with this lobster?

• 2:16:17Speaker 03

  Is this for the?

• 2:16:18Matt Farah?

  It's a lobster or, oh. I tried not to get you chewing bits. Wait, this tail, the tail of this lobster? What do I do? Rip it. I rip it off?

• 2:16:26Speaker 03

  Oh, oh, hello.

• 2:16:27Matt Farah?

  Oh, Sam.

• 2:16:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, hey.

• 2:16:29Matt Farah?

  Sam.

• 2:16:29Speaker 03

  Celebrity walk on.

• 2:16:31Matt Farah?

  Sam, oh, Sam of the sea, guys. Hold on.

• 2:16:35Speaker 03

  I just got on.

• 2:16:37Matt Farah?

  Everyone outside said, get Johnny up. Now you have an active microphone. Is this, is this how it works? Do I just walk in? Well, we've been, we've been scheduling people on the hoff. Okay. But Sarah doesn't want to be here. You can take my seat. Are you sure? Yeah, I just wanted to say hi. She just wanted to say hi, and this lobster comes off and says, you're the shit.

• 2:16:54Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 2:16:55Matt Farah?

  Thank you, Sarah. We love you. I feel like I've stolen your moment, Sarah. Thank you for coming. No, she doesn't really want to be here. She, she'll insist. Sarah, if you change your mind and do want to be here, you can come back and do radio with us. Okay, until then. Sam. Seen, you, you know Johnny?

• 2:17:09Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah. I saw you a day ago, two days ago.

• 2:17:13Matt Farah?

  Okay, pause for a moment.

• 2:17:15Speaker 03

  We took an Huracan off-road, a Serato.

• 2:17:19Matt Farah?

  As one should do.

• 2:17:20Speaker 03

  Okay, so the plan was to drive to Le Mans to watch the race. And what we wound up doing instead was, we drove to like, I don't remember, but long story short, we wound up at Spa, and we did a track day at Spa.

• 2:17:34Matt Farah?

  Accidentally?

• 2:17:35Speaker 03

  Oh no, on purpose.

• 2:17:36Matt Farah?

  Okay, alright, fine.

• 2:17:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, but we did a track day at Spa with the cars. And then, the next day, we drove to the Nürburgring, where we were gonna go drive around the Nürburgring. And this is a funny story, which is still causing me soreness with Bentley to this day, was, as we're like, you know, airing up the tires for the Nürburgring, Bentley PR person is like, "You took the car on Spa yesterday?" "Yeah." "You really should've told us if you were taking it on a racetrack." And I'm literally like, at the gas station at the Nürburgring, like, "Try not to look at my Instagram for 24 hours." And then we went on the Nürburgring with the cars, and then we decided to successfully hit 200 miles an hour in both cars on a public road, on the Autobahn.

• 2:18:22Matt Farah?

  The thing about Bentleys is, they're the best. They're actually just kind of the best.

• 2:18:28Speaker 03

  In this case, the Vanquish was better, but, look, I'll put it like this. Go around the Nürburgring in a 2019 Continental GT, and go around the Nürburgring in a 2019 Vanquish, and Vanquish is way better.

• 2:18:46Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 2:18:47Speaker 03

  And the Vanquish hit 211, the Bentley can only go 201.

• 2:18:50Matt Farah?

  This is very important to me. This is key information.

• 2:18:54Speaker 03

  But I'll tell you a funny story. So, you know, because the Vanquish made 700 and whatever horsepower, it was, it got to 211 way quick. The Bentley was like, you get to 186, and then, it was a big ramp up. And it was kinda raining, and it was at night, and it just wasn't happening in this direction. So, after like, four attempts, I give up, come back the other way, and it's just wide open. So I'm like, "Do it." And I just, I did it. But I was pulling so hard on the steering wheel, that I bent the fucking wheel, so that when the car turned, it would now scrape against the hub.

• 2:19:30Speaker 03

  But I got 201 on a GoPro.

• 2:19:32Matt Farah?

  And obviously, it wasn't stressful at all.

• 2:19:36Speaker 03

  You've never gone 201 on a public road at night while it's raining?

• 2:19:40Matt Farah?

  Uh, I don't think while it's raining.

• 2:19:43Speaker 03

  Just a little rain, not a lot of rain.

• 2:19:46Matt Farah?

  Um, Sam, what we're doing, among other things, and negotiating and doing radio.

• 2:19:51Speaker 03

  Where's that Leatherman?

• 2:19:52Matt Farah?

  Is we're trying to be like, consistent. We have a little three-question.

• 2:19:59Matt Farah?

  We have a little three-question sort of quiz for everybody. Okay. So there's three, so I've done, Johnny just answered the second of three. Okay. And, uh, and, uh, the third, Johnny, while you're cutting over there, is, and you can think about your answer now. Sure. Is, you have 10 million dollars that you must spend on cars in one day.

• 2:20:22Speaker 03

  Oh, come on.

• 2:20:23Matt Farah?

  One day.

• 2:20:24Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:20:24Matt Farah?

  So, what are, what are we buying?

• 2:20:27Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 2:20:28Speaker 01

  Jay Leno has entered.

• 2:20:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, Jay's here.

• 2:20:33Speaker 01

  That was the secret guess that, uh, Zuckerman was referring to.

• 2:20:36Matt Farah?

  Oh, what is, what is a light? Should I jump out of this chair now?

• 2:20:38Speaker 01

  You've been upstaged.

• 2:20:42Speaker 01

  Maybe you can change your flight home.

• 2:20:44Matt Farah?

  I'll be back in flow.

• 2:20:45Speaker 03

  Um, I mean, that's a crazy question.

• 2:20:48Matt Farah?

  Okay, we'll try and answer.

• 2:20:50Speaker 03

  Oh my god, uh, okay, I would get, uh, boy, I'd get a, uh, SLS, uh, Black Series.

• 2:20:58Matt Farah?

  Oh, that's a good one.

• 2:20:58Speaker 03

  I would probably also get a, a real GoWin.

• 2:21:02Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 2:21:02Speaker 03

  So I'd have my matching GoWings.

• 2:21:04Matt Farah?

  You can call that 2 million for the pair.

• 2:21:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's about right, yeah, okay, 2 million for the pair. Um, I would buy your Countach.

• 2:21:12Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 2:21:12Speaker 03

  How much is that?

• 2:21:14Matt Farah?

  3 million.

• 2:21:17Speaker 03

  Could you make it, could you make it 7 in this first?

• 2:21:21Matt Farah?

  I think we need to lower the amount rather than... Some people are having, Zuckerman spent 10 million, and Spike spent 10 million dollars in one word.

• 2:21:28Speaker 01

  20 seconds.

• 2:21:29Speaker 03

  I could do that.

• 2:21:30Speaker 01

  Zuckerman said we should raise it to 50.

• 2:21:34Matt Farah?

  Like, what are you doing?

• 2:21:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Uh, okay, a Countach, I mean, god, I don't know.

• 2:21:43Matt Farah?

  I think you have six million left.

• 2:21:44Speaker 03

  I have six million left, okay.

• 2:21:47Matt Farah?

  I'll help you. A roof yellowbird just sold for six million.

• 2:21:51Speaker 03

  For six million? I would probably take a roof, you know, but I would want a new one.

• 2:21:55Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:21:56Speaker 03

  The new, yeah, okay, a new one, that's a mil.

• 2:21:58Matt Farah?

  Well, you're forty feet from one right now.

• 2:22:00Speaker 03

  From a new one.

• 2:22:01Matt Farah?

  Behind your wall.

• 2:22:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, nice, okay, I take that, so that's, I have six, now I have five million left. Okay, I'm bad at this.

• 2:22:09Matt Farah?

  All you have to do is say, "A pair of each." Yes, or so.

• 2:22:12Speaker 03

  No, no, no, I wanna.

• 2:22:14Matt Farah?

  Actually, that's what Ralph Lauren does, he always gets a pair.

• 2:22:17Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, must be nice.

• 2:22:18Matt Farah?

  So his sons don't fight over them.

• 2:22:19Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 2:22:20Matt Farah?

  Get out of them each to have one. Okay. It is. It's a boss movie.

• 2:22:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:22:27Speaker 01

  But which one does he hug more?

• 2:22:29Speaker 03

  I'm blanking.

• 2:22:30Speaker 01

  Evenly as well?

• 2:22:31Matt Farah?

  The car was like.

• 2:22:31Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:22:33Matt Farah?

  Except you have three McLaren F1s, therein lies the problem.

• 2:22:38Speaker 03

  I don't know, Matt, I don't know, I think that's a good, I think that's a good start, yeah.

• 2:22:41Matt Farah?

  Pull the, pull the red light on that. Okay, alright, okay. Some people have like a ten million dollar car and other people.

• 2:22:48Speaker 03

  I could do a ten million, I, the first thing that popped in my head was a 250 short wheelbase, but that's,

• 2:22:53Matt Farah?

  Spike said.

• 2:22:53Speaker 03

  That's seventeen million, so.

• 2:22:55Speaker 01

  Get a bad one.

• 2:22:56Matt Farah?

  Get a bad.

• 2:22:57Speaker 03

  A bad one.

• 2:22:57Speaker 01

  Sal is silent.

• 2:22:59Matt Farah?

  The one Epstein owned.

• 2:23:04Matt Farah?

  You don't want one that's been crashed, just one with a very sketchy past. Yeah, but Tina really asked about it.

• 2:23:10Speaker 03

  I would, I would buy a Diablo SV.

• 2:23:12Matt Farah?

  Give you a million there.

• 2:23:14Speaker 03

  I mean. Yeah.

• 2:23:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, it would, it would take regular people a while to get the ten million.

• 2:23:20Speaker 03

  Lamborghinis and gull wings, I would have, I would have a very nice Lamborghini collection, I have an LMO2, and I'd have every gull wing Mercedes ever made, yeah.

• 2:23:28Matt Farah?

  Alright, cool.

• 2:23:30Speaker 03

  That's all you need.

• 2:23:30Matt Farah?

  Sam, have you met Jay Leno before? I've, I've never met Jay. Do you want to? That would be.

• 2:23:34Speaker 03

  I'll get him in, yeah, yeah, okay.

• 2:23:36Matt Farah?

  Jay Leno.

• 2:23:36Speaker 03

  I'm gonna try and open this.

• 2:23:37Matt Farah?

  Okay. You can, and wow, this is suddenly telling, it's like, great day for me.

• 2:23:43Matt Farah?

  Welcome back. Thank you so much, Matt. Most, perhaps most importantly.

• 2:23:46Speaker 01

  Hold on to these coattails, Sam.

• 2:23:48Matt Farah?

  Yes, two seconds. Most importantly. Do you bow with Jay? How does it work? Do you bow?

• 2:23:52Speaker 01

  Yes, we do.

• 2:23:53Matt Farah?

  You act like a regular human. I don't know how.

• 2:23:55Speaker 01

  Salute.

• 2:23:56Matt Farah?

  By the way, he can hear you. Oh, crap. Oh, oh, he can finish eating his sandwich.

• 2:24:04Matt Farah?

  Jay. Jay Leno. Men of business. What's going on?

• 2:24:08Speaker 01

  Men of business.

• 2:24:08Matt Farah?

  What's going on? You can finish your sandwich. It is not a hurry. Is it here? Yeah, you can finish it here. It has the dynamic. What's going on? Nothing. So nice of you to come by. Oh, yeah, it is great. This is a surprise. Great place, yeah. Thank you. It's a great hang, apparently. Yeah.

• 2:24:24Matt Farah?

  A little closer. Jay Leno in the house. How's the sandwich? My wife will really want to know. Mike's Deli. Good, good. Alright, cool. Yeah, not bad. There you go. This is Sam. Oh, nice to meet you. Sam makes videos from England. Hi, Sam. He's a very nice, nice.

• 2:24:37Speaker 01

  Very good, very talented.

• 2:24:38Matt Farah?

  Pretent to be at least. He's a pretty nice young boy. Sorry? Where in England? Yeah, uh, London. Oh, my. Yeah, London born and bred. Now Surrey, because I couldn't afford to live in London. Yeah. My parents didn't buy me a place, so I was like, oh, I gotta. Surrey's a bunch of Russians, though. Surrey's nice, right? I'm like a stone throw from Wimbledon tennis, which is great. They don't give me free tickets, but it's still a nice place to hang out. Very quiet out here. Yeah. We have to be very quiet. We used to have a place in Burry, St Edmunds. Oh, yeah, that's super nice. Near the Abbey. Did you go to London enough to justify a place? No, it was my aunt. My mother's from Scotland. Oh, okay, cool. So my aunt had a place there. How are you doing, Jay? So nice to see you. Tell a few jokes, try to make a living, that's the gig. You're nice. Alright. Are you doing the road right now?

• 2:25:23Matt Farah?

  I'm always on the road. I mean, but like, are you, you're with the frequency that you were a couple of years ago? Yeah, last night I was in up northern California. Nice. West, Westland? Cashing checks. Exactly. Yeah. Good for you. And, and, uh, you're feeling alright? I know there was a rough three, four months. No, it was fine. It was fine. Stupid. Didn't you get clotheslined on a motorcycle? Well, you know, first my face caught fire. Yeah. Because I got a new face. I saw you after that. The new face.

• 2:25:53Speaker 01

  Your one looks really good.

• 2:25:54Matt Farah?

  It was really good. I saw you really fast. Well, then I got clotheslined. It ripped my face right across here. Whoa. The new face? So I went back to, I called my face guy. I need another face, so. Dude. Is that time lucky, huh? It's alright, yeah. Alright, wow.

• 2:26:07Speaker 01

  But then you fell down the hill. We talked about that too.

• 2:26:09Matt Farah?

  So now you're on, now you're on life. Now you're on life number four. That's right.

• 2:26:15Matt Farah?

  So what are we talking about today? I don't know. I mean, in theory, we're, we're supposed to be celebrating ourselves, but it's nice that you're here, finally. People in Hollywood celebrating themselves. Unusual. I've never heard of that.

• 2:26:27Speaker 01

  In LA, really?

• 2:26:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we try not to, but you know, doing a thousand of something feels like a lot. Oh, you got a thousand of shows? This is the thousandth episode. Oh, wow. That's what these balloons mean. It's not how many, it's not how many convict, criminal convictions I have.

• 2:26:43Speaker 01

  That's why everyone's here. You stopped by for the sandwiches, I understand.

• 2:26:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

• 2:26:48Speaker 07

  Oh, that's not for subscribers.

• 2:26:52Matt Farah?

  That one's for subscribers, the good one. You got one of them.

• 2:26:56Speaker 01

  I know, they're fun, yeah.

• 2:26:57Matt Farah?

  That's fair, that, that twelve dollars really makes you work. But I hate that they don't give you another one for so long. It's like a little teaser. We have them both. We have a hundred thousand and then the million, and the gap in between, I think, was fourteen years. Yes, there you go. Have you been doing it fourteen years? We started on YouTube in two thousand and six, and the podcast since twenty twelve. Crazy.

• 2:27:22Speaker 01

  And you do the watch podcast, too.

• 2:27:24Matt Farah?

  We stopped doing that. We did that over two and a half years. And it was fun, and then we, I decided that I had to either be way more snobby or way more nerdy to continue. I hit the wall of my personal snobbery and nerdery as it comes to watches. I have a t- I have a t-. You have a, what is that one? Is that one? Is that a Vacheron? Yeah. Oh, wow. That's the Vacheron driver's watch? Nineteen twenty-one. It's from nineteen twenty-one?

• 2:27:50Speaker 01

  Well, it came out in nineteen twenty-one, they reissued it.

• 2:27:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they reissued it. It's, it's canceled to the side because of...

• 2:27:56Speaker 07

  Well, what you see, you see it's offset, so when you, the idea is when it came out in nineteen twenty-one, steering wheels were like this.

• 2:28:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's for driving underhand.

• 2:28:05Speaker 07

  So when you, when you look at it, it looks, the whole thing is offset. If you put it up here, you, you have to go again.

• 2:28:10Matt Farah?

  So, I wear my watch on my right hand, and I love the idea of that, but do they make one that goes the, where it's tilted the other way? Is what I really need. A right-handed tilt. I need a right-hand version of that. So I wear it on the hand. If I wear yours on my right hand, it's tilted even more. I can't, I won't be able to read any better.

• 2:28:32Matt Farah?

  I think so. I think it is Jay. I'm pretty sure that if you put that-

• 2:28:36Speaker 01

  Find out live.

• 2:28:37Matt Farah?

  You see it? These Vacheron makes a quite the, quite the motoring watch. Yeah, this is, this is like some sterling moss. Yeah, so look, if I put this on, on this wrist where I wear it, it's tilted even more. If I'm driving it, it's now- But is it easy to look at now? No, it's harder. But you're right- It's meant to be worn on this wrist, so it's vertical when I hold it like that.

• 2:29:01Speaker 01

  What if you do inside of my wrist?

• 2:29:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah, do the inside. Inside? Cause that makes it more sense. It's exactly the same, yeah.

• 2:29:05Speaker 01

  Now flip it 180 and see.

• 2:29:07Matt Farah?

  Okay, if I wear it on the inside of my wrist and drive like I'm rolling a 64 Impala down Crenshaw, then I can read it. This was pre-DEI, right? This was pre-woke- It's not, it's not meant for lefties. Yeah. Yeah, on this hand, it's perfect. You're holding your wheel like this, it's perfectly up. Yeah, I mean, to me, I'm left-handed, that's why. I'm just wondering, if you called Vacheron, would they tilt the dial inside the case the appropriate direction-

• 2:29:34Speaker 01

  Wait, interesting point. So you're left-handed. Do you always wear your watch on your left hand?

• 2:29:38Matt Farah?

  This watch has been this way since 1920. I absolutely understand, but I just want them to make one that tilts the other way too.

• 2:29:45Speaker 01

  You love their tradition, but you'd like to change it entirely.

• 2:29:47Matt Farah?

  I just wanted-

• 2:29:50Matt Farah?

  I want inclusivity in the $2,000 Vacheron watch world, please. It's a beautiful watch though. Well, they're wonderful, yeah, they do a nice job. It's a great watch. I don't normally see you wearing, I almost always wear, see you wearing your like Apple Watch and every time I see you- I don't want to get my arm cut off, you know? Well, and it's cause where you, and you wear it and you say it's cause you use the speedometer and the, and the GPS on it when you're driving old stuff. Or driving old stuff, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is actually pretty good for you. I should have worn my Terra Luna. You ever seen a Terra Luna? I'm sure I have. Tell me what it is though. Along and zone? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, is that the full loom dial? No, it's, no, on the other side, it's got the moon face. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a perpetual, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, this is it. Um, Longa is-

• 2:30:37Matt Farah?

  That's it, that's terrible.

• 2:30:38Speaker 06

  That's it right there.

• 2:30:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. Crazy.

• 2:30:40Speaker 06

  Go ahead, go up a little bit more.

• 2:30:42Matt Farah?

  Oh, you know where I saw, I think I saw you wearing a longer at the Audrain concourse.

• 2:30:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:30:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah. How was that this year?

• 2:30:51Speaker 06

  Good, good. I like that. It's, it's nice. It's like what Pebble Beach used to be.

• 2:30:54Matt Farah?

  Newport is such a great place for that type of event. Have you ever been there, Sam? No, it's a smaller, it's straight after Pebble Beach, no? It's in October. Oh, okay. And they really take over the whole town of Newport.

• 2:31:07Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 2:31:08Matt Farah?

  It's a, it's a, like a really like, kind of like walkable town, but they, they have the, the quote cottages. Mr. Leno, so Leno has a cottage.

• 2:31:16Speaker 06

  I have a cottage.

• 2:31:16Matt Farah?

  And, uh... I'm sure it's two up, two down. It's, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, uh, they're, the term cottage is used incredibly loosely, but they make bad drops for car shows.

• 2:31:26Speaker 06

  Is this the internet now?

• 2:31:27Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 2:31:28Speaker 06

  Well, you can go to my cottage if you go to...

• 2:31:29Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, let's see the cottage.

• 2:31:30Speaker 06

  What? Put in 254 Ocean Avenue.

• 2:31:33Matt Farah?

  We saw Jay's cottage when we did the Audrain, uh, the veteran run. Could I predict that it might be hard to miss? I mean, it looks like many of the other ones around it, but it's pretty extraordinary.

• 2:31:43Speaker 06

  Go to 254 Ocean Avenue.

• 2:31:45Matt Farah?

  I think we need a street view.

• 2:31:47Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 2:31:47Matt Farah?

  Or satellite. Satellite. Satellite, yeah.

• 2:31:49Speaker 06

  Right here.

• 2:31:50Matt Farah?

  Oh, that is a Jay.

• 2:31:55Matt Farah?

  Okay, so, in England, we call that a castle.

• 2:32:00Speaker 01

  Valid.

• 2:32:03Matt Farah?

  They only called it a cottage in Newport because the people in England hadn't been there yet and just had to take their word for it.

• 2:32:09Speaker 06

  There should be a video.

• 2:32:10Matt Farah?

  No, this is it. This is outrageous. Yeah, it's amazing. It's the coolest house ever. This would come with a title. In the UK, this would come with a title. It has a name, doesn't it, Jay?

• 2:32:19Speaker 06

  Seafair.

• 2:32:20Matt Farah?

  Seafair.

• 2:32:20Speaker 01

  In England, it would come with four swords and a dragon.

• 2:32:22Matt Farah?

  A jukedum or an alldum or something.

• 2:32:24Speaker 06

  No, go to the, go, what's the video? There's a video.

• 2:32:26Matt Farah?

  And photos and videos. I don't know. This is outrageous.

• 2:32:29Speaker 01

  How do I find that?

• 2:32:30Matt Farah?

  I don't know. How long have you had this place? Look this video.

• 2:32:33Speaker 06

  Uh, seven years.

• 2:32:34Matt Farah?

  Okay. It's so beautiful.

• 2:32:38Speaker 07

  The price of a condo on Wilshire.

• 2:32:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:32:40Speaker 07

  That's what you get.

• 2:32:41Matt Farah?

  But I actually, last time I went to Newport, I did go by boat. And it is the best place to go by boat. The Newport Harbor is fantastic. You just stay right there and all the restaurants are there. It's amazing. And then we went out around, around the point and checked it out and stuff like this. Yeah. The, but wait, I, I read somewhere that you do not keep any fun cars in Newport.

• 2:33:02Speaker 07

  No, I don't keep anything there. Well, I, the museum has every car you could possibly imagine, every Porsche ever. So let me borrow when I'm there, but the salt, I mean, the car would die.

• 2:33:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:15Speaker 07

  My, the house is right on the water, so.

• 2:33:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:18Speaker 07

  I remember years ago, when I was single, I had a Corvette. I seen a girl live down in Malibu. I just parked there and I spent the night in her house. I come out, my car was covered with rust.

• 2:33:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:27Speaker 07

  I was like, what?

• 2:33:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:28Speaker 07

  So we had to break up.

• 2:33:31Matt Farah?

  People in LA break up for like, I broke up with a girl because she lived in Pasadena once.

• 2:33:36Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:33:36Matt Farah?

  Same kind of thing, like, so I'm not doing that. Weather or traffic? Traffic. Traffic. Too far.

• 2:33:41Speaker 07

  Well, the other, if you're a comedian and a girl says, why do I have to work every night? Okay, thank you, goodbye.

• 2:33:48Matt Farah?

  Even, even with my wife listening in the live stream in the other room, this girl was a model and a rocket scientist who worked at JPL. And I was like, Pasadena?

• 2:34:01Matt Farah?

  So a long distance relationship in LA is about 10 miles? Yeah.

• 2:34:05Speaker 07

  Or two hour drive.

• 2:34:06Matt Farah?

  Right, yeah. You do kind of have to have. Sure. Like, the Tinder radius was invented for this, for this city. Okay, noted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are, what are you spending, I mean, I know you try to, to love all your, your children, your automotive children equally, but what are you spending the most time driving these days?

• 2:34:22Speaker 07

  Well, you know, I just, I, I've been driving that Countach for 40 years.

• 2:34:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:27Speaker 07

  And I think, well, let me do some maintenance. Oh my God.

• 2:34:32Matt Farah?

  I'm in the middle of it too.

• 2:34:33Speaker 07

  Oh my God.

• 2:34:34Matt Farah?

  What are you doing? Engine?

• 2:34:36Speaker 07

  Well, I redid the interior.

• 2:34:40Speaker 07

  You know, and every piece of trim, it's like a jigsaw puzzle. There's some, it's a birdcage type frame, as you know, so you, every, I, nothing makes any sense. The manuals.

• 2:34:51Matt Farah?

  It's in Italian.

• 2:34:52Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah. You get boxes that say.

• 2:34:55Speaker 05

  Try one of these switches.

• 2:35:00Speaker 05

  And the wires are all too short, so when you have a wire, you literally have to pull it off the, you know. And then you have switches that do two things. Power goes through this switch to get to the, so.

• 2:35:13Matt Farah?

  Oh my god, like in series?

• 2:35:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, like you think, you think, why isn't it, why isn't it, I got the fan, and why isn't the air conditioner coming? Oh, I see. You have to turn that, oh, and then the power goes through that switch. I mean, it's, it's just crazy. I mean, I love the car, it's, it's a great car, but it's ridiculous.

• 2:35:30Matt Farah?

  Are you re-trimming it as original? You're not changing anything, you're just restoring?

• 2:35:34Speaker 05

  Well, again, re-trimming it as original,

• 2:35:37Speaker 05

  the perforation pattern is so bizarre. One guy on the east coast can do it, so you got to send a leather to him. You know, it's like, it's just every conceivable ridiculous.

• 2:35:48Matt Farah?

  Oh, for the, like, for the door speakers, the perforation?

• 2:35:51Speaker 05

  No, for the seats.

• 2:35:52Matt Farah?

  Oh, your seats are perforated?

• 2:35:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'll show you, go down, come on down, I'll show you downstairs.

• 2:35:56Matt Farah?

  The condenser downstairs?

• 2:35:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:35:58Matt Farah?

  Oh, cool, I didn't know you drove here. Yeah, cool, oh, fun.

• 2:36:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, no.

• 2:36:01Matt Farah?

  Oh, my seats are definitely not perforated. No, mine are.

• 2:36:04Speaker 05

  What year is yours?

• 2:36:05Matt Farah?

  Eighty-eight.

• 2:36:06Speaker 05

  Okay. Were they Chrysler then?

• 2:36:08Matt Farah?

  No.

• 2:36:09Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:36:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, eighty-nine, I think, eighty-nine, ninety.

• 2:36:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:36:13Matt Farah?

  No, mine is, my, mine is just as weird and stupid as, as yours, I think.

• 2:36:17Speaker 05

  Mine is the last carbureted car.

• 2:36:19Matt Farah?

  The very last one?

• 2:36:21Speaker 05

  Well, at least in the United States. That's why I bought it, because it, fuel injection was that fancy stuff. You know, it's eighty-six, you know. But, and plus, the carbureted car had more horsepower.

• 2:36:30Matt Farah?

  Oh, yours is a four-valve. I didn't realize.

• 2:36:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, mine is the very first year of the Quattro.

• 2:36:34Matt Farah?

  So what, my engine and gearbox are in Italy right now.

• 2:36:38Speaker 05

  Oh, wow.

• 2:36:39Matt Farah?

  I know, this, you don't, you're not gonna like this, you're not gonna like any of this. Um, cause you guys wrench on everything, but you're not gonna like this at all. My engine and gearbox are in Italy, and my car is, is, is an injection car.

• 2:36:50Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:36:50Matt Farah?

  So, I'm having them, it's, it's a full engine and gearbox rebuild, you know, once every twenty-five years. And they're doing the European cams, European exhaust, um, and smog delete, keeping the injection and tuning that for.

• 2:37:07Speaker 05

  How do you get past smog?

• 2:37:08Matt Farah?

  Your law, fortunately, I'm timing it.

• 2:37:11Speaker 05

  Let's hope that passes.

• 2:37:12Matt Farah?

  I'm a dealer. I have dealer plates, so I don't care. My car never passed smog anyway. Do you wanna talk about that? It's actually kinda important.

• 2:37:18Speaker 05

  Mine passes.

• 2:37:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:37:19Speaker 05

  Well, actually, the, you know. I think it's a good law. I think it's fair.

• 2:37:25Matt Farah?

  We talked about it when we first read about it before your name, I saw your name attached to it.

• 2:37:29Speaker 05

  Well, the thing that's unfair is the fact that if you have a car from the 80s or 90s, not necessarily a collector car, and it's your driver, you should only have to meet the standard of that year.

• 2:37:39Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 2:37:39Speaker 05

  Now, they keep upping it, and so, plus, if you have a car from the 80s or 90s, it's very hard to get parts. So, your car's off the road for no reason, you know. I mean, I have a number of cars. I put maybe a thousand miles a year on. You know, and why does that have to meet smog?

• 2:38:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I understand.

• 2:38:01Speaker 05

  It's not, you know.

• 2:38:02Matt Farah?

  And if you, if you had to get a new cat for a car from 1992, it is a prohibitive, it could total the car, literally could total the car.

• 2:38:11Speaker 05

  Right, yeah, yeah.

• 2:38:12Matt Farah?

  And it actually, it impacts collectors and it also impacts guys like, like gardeners that are driving around trucks

• 2:38:19Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 2:38:20Matt Farah?

  that, you know, have to be registered in California and blah, blah, blah. It is actually, it seems like a pretty common sense law.

• 2:38:28Speaker 05

  It does, but this is California, so common sense really doesn't, you know, it doesn't really make any sense.

• 2:38:34Matt Farah?

  Uh, sure, but we can hope.

• 2:38:38Speaker 05

  Well, keep our fingers crossed. We testify in the 8th of April, so we'll go up to Sacramento

• 2:38:42Matt Farah?

  Wow.

• 2:38:43Speaker 05

  testify and see what happens.

• 2:38:45Matt Farah?

  But your Countach passes smog?

• 2:38:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, it does, actually.

• 2:38:47Matt Farah?

  So I have service records of mine going back to the 90s.

• 2:38:51Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:38:51Matt Farah?

  And I have year after year after year of the car failing smog for the last 20 years.

• 2:38:58Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 2:38:58Matt Farah?

  Cars never passed smog.

• 2:38:59Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 2:38:59Matt Farah?

  And whatever.

• 2:39:01Speaker 05

  Was it a California car when you bought it?

• 2:39:02Matt Farah?

  I bought it in California, yeah. Whatever the, whatever the previous owner did, I don't know. It didn't pass smog. So, you know, whatever. But again, thousand miles a year,

• 2:39:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:39:13Matt Farah?

  a car of artistic and historical

• 2:39:16Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 2:39:17Matt Farah?

  value.

• 2:39:17Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:39:18Matt Farah?

  You know, and I would be more than willing to pay California the taxes to drive this car legally in California.

• 2:39:25Speaker 05

  Well, to me, it's like.

• 2:39:26Matt Farah?

  But they haven't provided a path.

• 2:39:27Speaker 05

  It's like the film, I mean, Hot Riding was born in California. It's a.

• 2:39:32Speaker 07

  Million dollar business. And you're just putting all these, it's like the film industry, you just drive them out of Hollywood. So everybody goes somewhere else, you know, which makes no sense to me. Like now, on my TV show, we, we, we, we use permits just so we don't have a problem. And this is what we're told, since so many people left California, they have to up our rates to make up to those people. Why don't I just leave too? I mean, it's, why don't you lower it and get more, it doesn't, you know, I can go down this street. If I make a left, I'm permitted. If I make a right, I get nailed as five thousand dollars. I, I mean, it, it, it, it doesn't make any sense, really.

• 2:40:11Matt Farah?

  Especially with like, like, the, the, the production of your show is pretty small, relatively small. And same with the, with the dumb stuff that we're doing.

• 2:40:21Speaker 07

  Right.

• 2:40:21Matt Farah?

  But there isn't like a scale of permitting for like size of production, really. I mean, you have to get cops and safety at a certain point, but like, what we're doing up on the hill to get permits for that is like the same as like Michael Bay sending a car off a bridge.

• 2:40:38Speaker 07

  Right, right, yeah, yeah.

• 2:40:39Matt Farah?

  It's like, it's not really possible.

• 2:40:40Speaker 07

  Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. I mean, they don't try to keep business here. I, it really, I really don't understand it. It doesn't make, because I try to look at both sides. Okay, so what's the reason for this, you know? It, it doesn't make any sense to me.

• 2:40:53Matt Farah?

  The, the, they haven't kept up certainly with like the tax incentives that other states are doing in order to, to keep production here. I don't, it seems to be, we know a lot of people in production that are having a very hard time.

• 2:41:04Speaker 01

  Oh, I know, it's terrible. I think they're gonna have to make big changes to bring that pendulum back here. Otherwise, the industry may just leave forever.

• 2:41:10Speaker 07

  I remember when I came to town, there were six helicopter pilots that I knew that did, you know, Hawaii Five-O and all of those shots. They worked 12 hours a day, every day. Everyone was out of a job. Well, they all got repaired by drones. Drones just put that business right out, right out the window, you know, it's unbelievable.

• 2:41:30Matt Farah?

  I mean, I, I do feel bad for those pilots, but drones are, drones are pretty awesome, I do have to say. I couldn't afford a pilot. Do you ever follow Fred North on Instagram? No. He's a movie pilot. He's like, his Instagrams are his shit he does with the chopper. Yeah. Any crazy, crazy Mission Impossible helicopter stunt is this guy. Yeah, Fred underscore North. Great follow. The stuff he posts is really, really crazy. Yeah, like lots of BTS stuff. Nice.

• 2:42:06Speaker 05

  That's got the C-18 Allison in it. That's what's in my motorcycle.

• 2:42:10Matt Farah?

  In that helicopter? Oh, my god, the Y2K bike. Oh, yeah. Do you still ride that thing?

• 2:42:14Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, the jet bike? You know, you're so glad when you get off it.

• 2:42:19Matt Farah?

  When you walk away from it.

• 2:42:20Speaker 05

  It's so frightening to.

• 2:42:22Matt Farah?

  Is it driven by thrust or it's driven by?

• 2:42:25Speaker 05

  It's driven, it's driven.

• 2:42:28Matt Farah?

  What?

• 2:42:28Speaker 05

  Goes through a transmission. It's shaft driven.

• 2:42:30Matt Farah?

  And, okay, but the revs are like, it's like 10,000 or something, right?

• 2:42:35Speaker 05

  No, it's about the same.

• 2:42:36Matt Farah?

  Is it?

• 2:42:37Speaker 05

  It's about the same, yeah.

• 2:42:38Matt Farah?

  And it's direct drive or it has gears?

• 2:42:41Speaker 05

  No, it has, it has two gears.

• 2:42:43Matt Farah?

  Oh, it does?

• 2:42:43Speaker 05

  We used a homemade transmission using Toyota parts and it works fine. It works good, but it just.

• 2:42:51Matt Farah?

  At what, at what speed do you up shift from first to second?

• 2:42:55Speaker 05

  200?

• 2:42:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, 45, 50s.

• 2:42:59Matt Farah?

  Okay, so it's like low and high?

• 2:43:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, low and high. You know, it's like a two-speed power glide.

• 2:43:04Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 2:43:04Speaker 05

  It's basically what it is.

• 2:43:05Matt Farah?

  Does a turbine have any?

• 2:43:08Speaker 05

  Brake, no.

• 2:43:08Matt Farah?

  Engine braking at all?

• 2:43:09Speaker 05

  No, and the other thing is you have a full second delay on stop and accelerate. For example, if I want.

• 2:43:17Matt Farah?

  Wait, wait, wait, say that again. You have a full second delay?

• 2:43:20Speaker 05

  Yes, if you open the throttle from rest, one, two. And when you stop, you grab the brake and nothing happens for a full second. Now, second doesn't seem very long.

• 2:43:34Matt Farah?

  No, it does. It's very long.

• 2:43:36Speaker 05

  Eighty or ninety.

• 2:43:37Matt Farah?

  It's incredibly long.

• 2:43:38Speaker 05

  So you think, okay, I'm gonna stop up there, so I'm gonna apply the brake here. You have to think ahead.

• 2:43:42Matt Farah?

  Why does, why, I get, I understand.

• 2:43:44Speaker 05

  Because the turbine doesn't, it just, because it has to spool down. It's no compression braking. Everything's spinning in the same direction. It's not like a piston where stuff's going up and down and you can, you can use that engine braking.

• 2:43:57Matt Farah?

  Titanic heading for the iceberg. It takes a while to. Yeah, yeah.

• 2:44:01Speaker 01

  If you're doing 80 miles per hour, you're doing 117 feet per second. So that you can cover a third of a football field.

• 2:44:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:07Speaker 01

  When you decide to try stopping and you stop.

• 2:44:09Speaker 05

  Turn on those turbine bikes.

• 2:44:10Matt Farah?

  This is it. MTT turbine super bike.

• 2:44:12Speaker 01

  450 horsepower.

• 2:44:13Speaker 05

  I'll show you mine. Show it up there. Where's one of?

• 2:44:18Matt Farah?

  It's a very dangerous game we play.

• 2:44:19Speaker 05

  There it is, right there.

• 2:44:20Matt Farah?

  Show our search history. This laptop lives only here. It's clean. It's clean, bro. It's clean, bro. That's what turbine is. It's clean.

• 2:44:28Speaker 01

  We gotta get through that.

• 2:44:30Speaker 05

  But you know, it's so great. Could you just?

• 2:44:33Matt Farah?

  Well, and you have a turbine, your Chrysler turbine car as well, right?

• 2:44:37Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 2:44:37Matt Farah?

  Same thing? Second delay on power and brakes or different?

• 2:44:41Speaker 05

  Not quite as bad. The turbine car is built for automotive use.

• 2:44:47Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 2:44:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's not, it's not a modified turbine from something else.

• 2:44:50Speaker 01

  This is such a cool thing. I mean, just as an invention, I remember reading about it as like a teenager and I just thought it was insane and great. Yeah.

• 2:44:58Matt Farah?

  I've seen you all riding before, back when, when, before they closed the snake, I saw you at the top of the snake on it once.

• 2:45:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. It's hilarious. It's hilarious because you just. You know, I was in a light once and I saw these cops, you know? And it idles at 52%, so. And they're like this, they're looking up. They're looking for the helicopter. I'm just sitting there.

• 2:45:21Speaker 05

  And then of course, you know, the story, it's got, I've got a TV camera in the back, so. And the dash rather, and this guy Nissan Maxima, he keeps edging up, what's that? And I'm watching his front bumper.

• 2:45:33Speaker 05

  Because it's 1400 degrees.

• 2:45:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:45:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, look at that exhaust pipe, the huge exhaust pipe throwing out, you know, fire essentially.

• 2:45:41Matt Farah?

  Melting people. So if it went, if it idles at 52%.

• 2:45:44Speaker 01

  Well, you can hear.

• 2:45:44Matt Farah?

  You just let off the throttle from that. And then it will, it'll accelerate to what, like 20 on its own?

• 2:45:51Speaker 05

  In the eighth mile drag, you lose. In a quarter mile drag, you kill the guy.

• 2:45:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:45:56Speaker 05

  Because once you hit 70, 80, 90%.

• 2:46:00Speaker 07

  I mean, it's pulling. It's an airplane, you know.

• 2:46:03Speaker 01

  It must be terrifying.

• 2:46:04Matt Farah?

  Is that a burnout you're doing in that shot, or is that just the exhaust?

• 2:46:07Speaker 07

  Well, that's just because I was sitting idling and oil was building up.

• 2:46:10Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:46:11Speaker 07

  But, yeah.

• 2:46:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah. That's...

• 2:46:14Speaker 01

  That's terrifying.

• 2:46:17Matt Farah?

  That's insane.

• 2:46:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, it sounds like a...

• 2:46:18Matt Farah?

  It's outrageous.

• 2:46:19Speaker 01

  It sounds like a plane taxiing toward the runway. 237 top speed.

• 2:46:23Matt Farah?

  Did the sound give you a sense of the speed?

• 2:46:26Speaker 07

  Uh?

• 2:46:26Matt Farah?

  Do you get a sense of, like, because the sound changes, the tone change?

• 2:46:29Speaker 07

  It's so smooth.

• 2:46:30Matt Farah?

  It's just smooth.

• 2:46:32Speaker 07

  And the noise is all behind you.

• 2:46:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:46:34Speaker 07

  You just strafe people on the highway. Just shh, shh.

• 2:46:38Matt Farah?

  That's gotta be great. I mean, motorcycling is already, you know, halfway to flying. I bet this is the most, like, have you ridden, you've ridden a LiveWire or other, like, good electric motorcycle?

• 2:46:48Speaker 07

  You know, I've got the, um, Italian company just went bankrupt. I got one of theirs, the Energica, Agenica.

• 2:46:54Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:46:55Speaker 07

  It's great, right?

• 2:46:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:46:57Speaker 07

  It's great.

• 2:46:58Matt Farah?

  And it's like flying a glider.

• 2:47:00Speaker 07

  You know what's so funny? I, I got it, and I said, "Let me take it up on the 5 freeway." And this never happened to me before. I'm on the 5 freeway. I'm going about 75, 80. And a piece of metal comes off a guy's truck. It goes, and slices the rear tire. Shoom! Just cut it right across. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. I go, "Fuck, I'm going down." I didn't go down. Luckily, I got off the side of the road. But I had to stay with my foot. I had to, until, I was there for like an hour because I, I didn't want to put it on its side. But I, the side stand with the tire off.

• 2:47:31Matt Farah?

  It couldn't go down.

• 2:47:32Speaker 07

  It was too low. So I just had to sit there until...

• 2:47:34Matt Farah?

  Oh, is that it? That's a beautiful bike.

• 2:47:37Speaker 07

  Yeah, that's it.

• 2:47:38Matt Farah?

  I mean, it looks like a, you know, like a jixxer or something.

• 2:47:41Speaker 07

  It's 180 horsepower. I mean, it's incredibly fast.

• 2:47:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:44Speaker 07

  And smooth. I mean, it's very, very good.

• 2:47:47Matt Farah?

  I, I like the, the vibe of the electric bikes. They're, they're like, it's like flying a glider. It's really, really, really cool.

• 2:47:53Speaker 07

  You know, it really is good. You go, "Oh, this thing is, this is very good," you know?

• 2:47:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:57Speaker 07

  And especially, I'm living in Beverly Hills somewhere.

• 2:47:59Matt Farah?

  motorcycles, people go a little nutty, but that thing is Yeah. You know, it's terrific. I mean, my, my everyday is my Vespa, my Vespa 300, which ever is great, because everyone thinks you're just like delivering Uber Eats. Sure. You know, they're nice to you. Is it quite a sight, you on a Vespa, is that quite a? I mean, it's, it's lime green. Okay. It is. You look like a circus bear. I mean, it's, it's a 300, so it's bigger than the regular. 300 cc? Yeah, water cooled. Oh, wow. It does 85 miles an hour. One, one cylinder? Single cylinder, yeah. But it provides a balance, so it probably. It has a balance, it's, it's, it has, it also has like bigger, bigger wheels, better suspension. It actually has ABS and traction control.

• 2:48:42Matt Farah?

  Um, I love it so much. I use it all the time. That's great, yeah. Um, and, uh, that's, I, I can beat anyone off the line that doesn't know they're racing me. That's a successful strategy I've, I've found. Yeah, I, I drove the jet bike home once, and that did not go well.

• 2:49:03Matt Farah?

  In Beverly Hills, they're like, Harold's probably landing the chopper on the roof again. But you know what's so funny? There's a guy in Benedict Canyon that has a helicopter. And I guess it's got a, I saw it land once in the, in the canyon near his house, which is illegal. Yeah. But it's like, I mean, it's very muffled. It came down the line, so he must have flown it home. There was a guy, I went to, I went to a Pagani party a couple of years ago at one of these houses that, one of these like hot shot Bel Air developers built. And it had the chopper from the TV show, Airwolf, on the roof. Oh, that guy. Remember, you know what I'm talking about? That guy tried to. Mikowski, Bruce Mikowski was his name. Yeah. Yeah, he said, oh, follow me, I'll show you.

• 2:49:47Matt Farah?

  And it, but the helicopter didn't work. Yeah, well, so that was what he said, right? They said it was a non-working prop. And then we went to the property and the agents representing it told me and Hannah, like, oh, it's just had like this thing like removed and you just put that back and it flies. And I was like, so like, you just fly in and out and land on the roof? And they're like, you're not supposed to. And I go, you mean, is it, it's illegal? And he just goes, well, you, you pay a fine. Right, there you go.

• 2:50:20Matt Farah?

  Did that house ever sell? It did. I think they wanted 250 when I was there and I think they got 105 or something ultimately.

• 2:50:27Speaker 01

  This is, oh, five years ago it sold for 94 million.

• 2:50:30Matt Farah?

  94, 94, yeah. It was, it was bananas.

• 2:50:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, it wasn't a very nice house.

• 2:50:37Matt Farah?

  It was just every, it was, you know, one of those things where it's make everything as expensive as possible.

• 2:50:42Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 2:50:43Matt Farah?

  Everywhere you look. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we love that.

• 2:50:45Speaker 01

  Stuff like that.

• 2:50:46Matt Farah?

  It's ridiculous. There was like a, like a candy store, you know, like in the, in the bay with, with the big huge tubes in the, of the can. I mean, it was ridiculous.

• 2:50:55Speaker 05

  My favorite was one of the Eccleston daughters had a, a present wrapping room, a room dedicated to wrapping.

• 2:51:00Matt Farah?

  Well, that was, Jay's probably been there. She wrote the spelling estate.

• 2:51:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's right.

• 2:51:03Matt Farah?

  Have you been there?

• 2:51:04Speaker 05

  No, no, I haven't been there.

• 2:51:06Speaker 01

  Where else would you wrap presents, Sam?

• 2:51:08Matt Farah?

  Well, that's the good point. I, I would hate to wrap presents like in my kitchen.

• 2:51:11Speaker 01

  Kitchen table?

• 2:51:11Matt Farah?

  Disaster.

• 2:51:12Speaker 01

  Ridiculous, that's for food.

• 2:51:13Matt Farah?

  So, you know, that's the goal in life. I, I have a friend that has a, a 40,000 plus square foot house in Connecticut and you have to come up with things for rooms. Like you just have these rooms. So there was a plant, a, a plant potting room, like a gardening room. Um, and yeah, there's all kinds of.

• 2:51:32Speaker 05

  It's got to have a purpose, otherwise you just have lots of rooms.

• 2:51:34Matt Farah?

  Jay, your castle, do you have extraneous rooms?

• 2:51:36Speaker 05

  I, I, the bathroom was, I haven't flushed yet. Remember, it's a cottage, mate. It's a cottage. It's not a castle. Well, you know, I bought it all first.

• 2:51:43Speaker 01

  Where the three bears go.

• 2:51:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah, just turn key. Honey of hope.

• 2:51:46Speaker 05

  I knocked on the door and I said, I said, "This house for sale?" And the guy said, "It is, but it's not listed." I said, "Well, get the owner on the phone." And I, I bought it all.

• 2:51:54Matt Farah?

  And you were, you were Jay Leno at the time. You were not a nobody.

• 2:51:58Speaker 05

  It was seven years ago.

• 2:52:00Speaker 01

  Still building his career.

• 2:52:02Speaker 05

  It was, it was cool. I mean, but I didn't want to look at swatches. Okay, that's really, yeah, I did. That kind of stuff dried me up. I mean, you know, ketchups in the refrigerator, salts in the salt shaker. Fine. Towels are still hanging.

• 2:52:14Speaker 01

  Love it, yeah.

• 2:52:15Matt Farah?

  Just go. Take your pictures out of the frames and leave the frames.

• 2:52:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:52:19Speaker 01

  I actually think you can get bogged down by selecting every single bit of every house and then you don't have time to like drive stuff, ride stuff.

• 2:52:24Matt Farah?

  People have told us that that is actually like the preference now. Everybody wants to just buy a thing that's done and move in.

• 2:52:30Speaker 05

  And move in.

• 2:52:30Matt Farah?

  You're ahead of it, yeah.

• 2:52:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're called divorce guys.

• 2:52:34Speaker 01

  Couch TV, fine.

• 2:52:36Speaker 07

  There's a whole business, because I remember years ago, I stayed in one of these, because they got it for whatever reason. But, you know, like, if you're a corporate guy, and you're going to be six months in, you know, where the new plant is, the house is all set for you, you move in.

• 2:52:53Matt Farah?

  My dad got like a corporate housing, but it was actually a suite at the Ritz Carlton for like six months in Atlanta.

• 2:53:00Speaker 07

  That's pretty good.

• 2:53:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, because he got a gig, and me and my sister were still like in school, and they wanted us to move down there. And they're like, "Yeah, we'll set you up." And then I'm living at the Ritz Carlton for a summer.

• 2:53:10Speaker 07

  Sounds fantastic.

• 2:53:10Matt Farah?

  It's all right, it's like Home Alone 2. Yeah, yeah, literally, Dustin checks in. Great without my parents.

• 2:53:16Speaker 01

  That was the monkey, right?

• 2:53:18Matt Farah?

  Jay, we're doing like a little bit where we're asking our guests three things.

• 2:53:23Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 2:53:23Matt Farah?

  Sort of, so it's a pseudo like lightning round.

• 2:53:26Speaker 07

  All right, go ahead.

• 2:53:27Matt Farah?

  We started this podcast in 2012.

• 2:53:29Speaker 07

  All right.

• 2:53:30Matt Farah?

  Beginning of 2012. What were you doing in 2012?

• 2:53:33Speaker 07

  I was doing the Tonight Show, I was hosting the Tonight Show.

• 2:53:35Matt Farah?

  Until what year did you leave the Tonight Show?

• 2:53:37Speaker 07

  14.

• 2:53:37Matt Farah?

  14, oh yes, so you were full speed ahead.

• 2:53:39Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 2:53:40Matt Farah?

  You were also doing Jay Leno's Garage.

• 2:53:41Speaker 07

  Right, right.

• 2:53:42Matt Farah?

  The same time, and touring.

• 2:53:44Speaker 07

  Right, right.

• 2:53:45Matt Farah?

  Guys, I remember when I first met you, and you told me like what your, I think you were still doing Tonight Show, and you told me like what your weekly schedule was, and I was like, "My lord."

• 2:53:56Speaker 07

  Oh, it's not bad. You know, I like to have my time, you know, the great thing about doing a show every day is, you write jokes until, pencils down, we're up, we're on in an hour, pencils down. "All right, I gotta stop now. So, if it's good, okay, if it's bad..." Doing it once a week, any free time, I'd be going, "Okay, I should be working on the show. I shouldn't have any free time." You know, so I mean, I like that, puts you right up to the edge.

• 2:54:22Matt Farah?

  Sure, oh, that's, that's, okay, cool.

• 2:54:24Speaker 07

  I mean, that works for me.

• 2:54:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like a deadline.

• 2:54:27Speaker 07

  And the nice thing is, if the show sucks, I got another one tomorrow.

• 2:54:29Matt Farah?

  Right, yeah.

• 2:54:30Speaker 07

  But you know, you don't dwell on it, "Oh my god, what happens?"

• 2:54:33Matt Farah?

  That's kind of how I think about our regular shows versus how I thought about this show. I was sweating about this show for a week and a half, and the other shows, I couldn't care less. Okay, our question number two is, what is the best road trip you've ever taken?

• 2:54:51Speaker 07

  You know, I don't really take road trips. You know, most of my cars leave my garage, they go in a big circle, sometimes it's hundreds of miles, and they go back to the garage. The idea...

• 2:55:00Speaker 05

  Of being in a hotel, or somebody's touching my car, it's in the parking lot. You know, I hear so many stories, people's cars disappeared in the middle of the night, a trailer took it away, whatever something, whatever something is. So if I'm driving something interesting, like one of the Duesenbergs, I'll take that out and drive to Santa Barbara and then come back.

• 2:55:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:55:19Speaker 05

  But no, I don't really go and stay places.

• 2:55:21Matt Farah?

  Fair.

• 2:55:22Speaker 01

  When you, when you were starting or, you know, growing your career as a comedian, did you drive to gigs and do those kind of multi-state road trip type things, you know, decades ago?

• 2:55:31Speaker 05

  I usually flew, yeah, just had, I mean, in the eighties, I was the third most frequent flyer in the United States.

• 2:55:36Matt Farah?

  Seriously? Whoa, who was ahead of you?

• 2:55:38Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 2:55:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, man. That would have driven me nuts if they were like, congratulations, Mr. Leno, you're number three.

• 2:55:45Speaker 05

  Well, my goal was to be a comedian, not to be the most avid flyer.

• 2:55:47Speaker 01

  Right, yeah.

• 2:55:48Speaker 05

  But.

• 2:55:49Matt Farah?

  Still.

• 2:55:49Speaker 05

  But you know.

• 2:55:50Matt Farah?

  Competitive people, come on.

• 2:55:52Speaker 05

  I don't think I was ever more than an hour late on a plane. I mean, everything moved pretty smoothly in those days.

• 2:55:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:55:58Speaker 05

  And now, if a plane's not full, they come up with some reason not to go, or an Iranian's locked in the bathroom, or there's always something, something going on, you know what I mean?

• 2:56:09Matt Farah?

  It's always an Iranian.

• 2:56:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's.

• 2:56:11Matt Farah?

  I mean, we can all, we can. Do you have a delay on the show? We can relate, right?

• 2:56:14Speaker 05

  Yeah. So, but no, I'm not really a road trip kind of guy.

• 2:56:17Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 2:56:18Speaker 05

  Because what I'm driving is way more important than where I'm going.

• 2:56:20Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 2:56:21Speaker 05

  You're like, to me, I don't do any of these California meal things, I don't want to have drinks at the so-and-so road. You know, I mean, can we just drive?

• 2:56:28Matt Farah?

  Point A to point A.

• 2:56:29Speaker 05

  Can we drive for the 24 hours?

• 2:56:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:56:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:56:33Matt Farah?

  Respect, I respect that.

• 2:56:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I'd rather do, if I'm gonna go.

• 2:56:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:56:36Speaker 05

  Because the other part, I don't really drink, and, oh, it's just some kind of fish heads on little matchbook covers or whatever they sell.

• 2:56:42Matt Farah?

  I know exactly what you mean.

• 2:56:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:56:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah, stick to the road part of it.

• 2:56:46Speaker 05

  All right, what's the next question?

• 2:56:47Matt Farah?

  This one, I mean, this one, I'll be interested to hear you say.

• 2:56:51Speaker 05

  All right.

• 2:56:52Matt Farah?

  You are, $10 million drops into your lap right now, you must spend it on cars by the end of the day. Could be anything, any number of cars, what are we, what are we buying?

• 2:57:02Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 2:57:03Matt Farah?

  Make $10 million disappear on cars right now.

• 2:57:05Speaker 05

  I've actually had that happen.

• 2:57:11Speaker 07

  Oh, we're only limited to ten.

• 2:57:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah. You've got really, really interesting guys.

• 2:57:15Speaker 07

  What you're saying is we're doing it on a budget.

• 2:57:16Matt Farah?

  We have, we have quite the spectrum of answers to questions.

• 2:57:20Speaker 01

  You have to restrain yourself a bit.

• 2:57:21Speaker 07

  What would I buy, uh, of the new W1 McLaren?

• 2:57:27Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay. Ooh.

• 2:57:29Speaker 07

  Which I actually did buy.

• 2:57:30Matt Farah?

  Which I'm sure you've got one, yeah, yeah. Does it match the, does it, is it gonna match the P1? Same colors or new colors?

• 2:57:36Speaker 07

  No, no, no, they look too similar. They don't get the same color, you know.

• 2:57:39Matt Farah?

  There's people that do.

• 2:57:41Speaker 07

  But I got the license plate.

• 2:57:43Matt Farah?

  Oh, you do?

• 2:57:43Speaker 07

  I got F1, P1, W1.

• 2:57:46Matt Farah?

  Nice. How do you, how does one get the plate before the car is built? How does one arrange that?

• 2:57:55Speaker 07

  Um.

• 2:57:58Speaker 07

  Just luck, I guess.

• 2:57:59Matt Farah?

  That's how ten million dollars disappear.

• 2:58:01Speaker 01

  For people listening, you're gonna wanna go to 255 timestamp on the video right there.

• 2:58:06Speaker 07

  But what would I buy? Well, you know, see, I like, I like all kinds of cars. I'm not a, you know what I drove the other day that I loved? I think you have one, yeah, the, the, uh, that three-cylinder Toyota?

• 2:58:17Matt Farah?

  GR Corolla. Oh, the GR Corolla? I've had them as press cars, I don't own one. Johnny owns one.

• 2:58:21Speaker 07

  That's a, oh, Johnny had, that's right, yeah.

• 2:58:24Matt Farah?

  They're rad, they're a good tongue.

• 2:58:26Speaker 07

  I thought it was fun to drive, nice car, really handled well.

• 2:58:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they're great.

• 2:58:29Speaker 07

  Manual transmission, yeah, I thought that was really good.

• 2:58:32Matt Farah?

  You know, Zach and I were at Jerry's Hangar last week and we're like, so what are you driving, Jerry? And he's like Subaru S209 and we're like, what?

• 2:58:39Speaker 01

  STI.

• 2:58:39Matt Farah?

  And he's like, come on, and we go in the hangar and there's like, imagine a Tic Tac Toe, three by three, right? Three by three. Million-dollar Porsches and the, and in the middle is this Subaru SS209.

• 2:58:53Speaker 01

  Low rally delusion.

• 2:58:54Matt Farah?

  What do you mean, what?

• 2:58:55Speaker 07

  I got a Mazda RX8.

• 2:58:57Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:58:58Speaker 07

  And I love driving that thing. Best shifting car, engine revs all day long.

• 2:59:05Matt Farah?

  They were fun.

• 2:59:06Speaker 07

  It's good, you know, I'm not a race car driver, I don't pretend to be. If I was gonna race somebody, I'd rather be in a Miata.

• 2:59:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:59:12Speaker 07

  As opposed to some, because you're expected to win if you're in the, I don't wanna be that guy that shows up at the track, you know, with the suit.

• 2:59:18Speaker 05

  The buttons are pulled apart because you're too fat for the racing suit, you know. You'll always see those guys.

• 2:59:23Matt Farah?

  You ever see the guy wear the race suit to the Cars and Coffee or something?

• 2:59:26Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 2:59:26Matt Farah?

  Or to like, is it like an autocross? Like, yikes.

• 2:59:30Speaker 05

  I don't assume because I can afford something, I'm good enough to get it to do what it does. I mean, that's why I enjoy the F1 McLaren. I can't get anywhere near its potential. Because it is, it is.

• 2:59:43Matt Farah?

  Well, but it's fabulous car, though.

• 2:59:45Speaker 05

  It is a fabulous car.

• 2:59:46Matt Farah?

  You don't need to be Santa to enjoy F1.

• 2:59:48Speaker 05

  You have no try. You know, I was on the freeway and the guy's, so I downshift the third and I nail it. I slid right across two lanes.

• 3:00:00Matt Farah?

  Does Michelin have like a new good tire for that or somebody have a good tire for that thing?

• 3:00:05Speaker 05

  Well, I think Pirelli was the original outfitter for the car. I got some Michelin on it, it was fine. I love Michelin. You know, Michelin's are the only tire that's round. I say that because other tires you mount, I gotta put so many ounces more on them. With Michelin's, half an ounce, maybe, isn't it? You know, they used to have a thing called a tire shaver. You know, I have some old cars. My 32 Packard and I go down the road and it starts shaking. I couldn't figure out what was wrong. And then an old guy said, oh, you need a tire shaver.

• 3:00:38Matt Farah?

  The old guy's like, your tires ain't round, sir. You're like, what? It's like my cousin Vinny.

• 3:00:44Speaker 05

  Well, this, this old guy. I'm at the point where that old guy was younger than me. But I put it on it and he spins it and it took a half a pound of rubber. I had a fist of a chunk of rubber within the, especially for tires for older cars, they don't really care. They assume they're just Cars and Coffee cars, you know, you don't drive them. So they're not really round and it goes around and

• 3:01:07Matt Farah?

  It's coming for the bottom.

• 3:01:08Speaker 05

  Took care of the problem. Took care of the problem.

• 3:01:10Matt Farah?

  Wow. How's everybody doing in the lounge, Johnny? All right? Oh, are they're drinking in there? Okay, cool. All right, well, it's one, it's 1pm, it's, I don't know, why not?

• 3:01:21Matt Farah?

  So now, and now are you like a junkie about shaving your tires?

• 3:01:24Speaker 05

  Well, I, I do, I, I, you don't have to do on a modern tires, of course.

• 3:01:27Matt Farah?

  No, no, no.

• 3:01:28Speaker 05

  Just vintage tires, and to find the tool, you know, there's not many guys.

• 3:01:31Matt Farah?

  We saw him doing it at Goodwood Festival of Speed.

• 3:01:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:01:34Matt Farah?

  The old, like, Formula One cars.

• 3:01:35Speaker 05

  Right.

• 3:01:36Matt Farah?

  It looks like you're, it looks like a, like a goomba at the barber shop is doing it.

• 3:01:40Speaker 05

  I know, I know, it's funny, it's funny. It's like those Formula One cars, you know, I remember when I was a kid and Alan Shepard went up in space. And then I went to the Space Museum, they had his capsule.

• 3:01:52Speaker 05

  It looks the size of a garbage can.

• 3:01:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:01:54Speaker 05

  Oh, that's pretty cool, yeah. And then I went back like forty years later, and I go, I wouldn't get in that thing. But you know, whatever technology you live in.

• 3:02:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:02:04Speaker 05

  It's the best.

• 3:02:05Matt Farah?

  Well, you've seen of like a Porsche 917 with the body off? You're like, are you kidding me?

• 3:02:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, right.

• 3:02:12Speaker 05

  You know, I drove the, we just shot off my garage, it comes up on Monday. The Thomas Flyer that went around the world.

• 3:02:18Matt Farah?

  Oh, get out of here.

• 3:02:19Speaker 05

  Fascinating stuff.

• 3:02:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the story's incredible.

• 3:02:21Speaker 05

  Oh, man, they're just unbelievable.

• 3:02:23Matt Farah?

  There's a dollop about it.

• 3:02:23Speaker 05

  But at the time, that was like, as about as advanced as an automobile could get.

• 3:02:28Matt Farah?

  How to drive.

• 3:02:30Speaker 05

  I mean, it was fast, you could go seventy in it.

• 3:02:32Matt Farah?

  Really?

• 3:02:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, a 519 cubic inch, big motor, you know, four-speed. Yeah, I mean, it went through Siberia, they had to take it apart.

• 3:02:43Matt Farah?

  Look at this, look at this car, it's amazing.

• 3:02:46Speaker 05

  And it's still in exactly that shape, and it's still going.

• 3:02:49Matt Farah?

  Wow, that's amazing. Chain drive, who actually built this thing, Jay?

• 3:02:51Speaker 05

  Stadium seating. It was built by Thomas Flyer.

• 3:02:54Matt Farah?

  Oh, that's the.

• 3:02:55Speaker 05

  A guy named Schuster, you know, it's so funny, if you, you remember the TV show, I Got a Secret?

• 3:03:01Matt Farah?

  I know of its existence, I've never seen it.

• 3:03:03Speaker 05

  It was on in the 50s, and I, it was on the game show network, I just happened to watch it. And they had Schuster on, the guy who drove this, because it was only fifty years earlier, you know? Not even fifty years earlier.

• 3:03:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:03:14Speaker 05

  It was like, it'd be like, a guy from the 50s coming on now. Right, Buzz Aldrin going on a TV show, it's like, wow.

• 3:03:20Matt Farah?

  It drove nice, though?

• 3:03:21Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, it drove great. And speaking of that, if you want to see something interesting, you. Uh, Google, I've got a secret Lincoln.

• 3:03:30Matt Farah?

  Oh, God.

• 3:03:31Speaker 05

  And you see, you see an old man come out. And his secret is, he's the last living witness to the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. And he's on TV, on television, yeah. I mean, you talk about shrinking time, you go, oh, my God.

• 3:03:44Matt Farah?

  No, there was a, what, there's a president, I want to say it's like John Tyler, maybe, who, there's a president that was like the fifteenth president or something, and his grandson is alive.

• 3:03:56Speaker 05

  Right.

• 3:03:56Matt Farah?

  Like, he had a kid at like seventy-eight.

• 3:03:58Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 3:03:59Matt Farah?

  And, and, yeah.

• 3:04:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's funny.

• 3:04:02Matt Farah?

  Oh, hello. Is Tati coming in?

• 3:04:05Speaker 05

  I think they want to.

• 3:04:05Matt Farah?

  I know you. You're the Land Rover girl. I know you. I don't have to say anything. Yeah, hi, come on in. Take over. Come on in.

• 3:04:14Speaker 05

  How are you?

• 3:04:15Matt Farah?

  Hi. Hello. Tati, right? That's me. Yeah, hi, I'm Matt, this is Zach.

• 3:04:19Speaker 05

  Cool, I read you.

• 3:04:20Matt Farah?

  This is Jay Leno. Nice to meet you. Lovely to meet you.

• 3:04:23Speaker 05

  Hi, Jay, how are you?

• 3:04:24Matt Farah?

  Hi, Tati.

• 3:04:25Speaker 05

  I believe it's the Land Rover woman, I believe, I can't say Land Rover girl.

• 3:04:29Matt Farah?

  Yes, I've seen you on Instagram. This is all very official and very smart, isn't it? And have you just driven across America? Uh, across a small to quite large proportion of it. Oh, cool. In not a Land Rover. Hi, and my wife is like, are you talking to a woman? She just looked through the door, sorry. What, what portion? Sorry, what, of, of America? Yeah, yeah. Colorado, through Wyoming, to Montana, to Idaho, uh, Utah, and now California.

• 3:04:57Speaker 05

  You know, I had these two guys call me, they go, oh, Miss Leno, we're driving an antique car across the United States. Uh, we want to end up in your garage, can we get a picture for, we're doing a book about, I said, yeah, okay. I was talking, nice guy, huh, and what kind of antique car you driving? Sixty-eight Cadillac. I go, you know, my dad made that trip, like, twelve times. You're not really breaking ground here, bud.

• 3:05:17Matt Farah?

  They're driving off-road, maybe.

• 3:05:18Speaker 05

  It's got air conditioning, it's got a, I mean, that's It's an ant- with this to them, that was an antique car.

• 3:05:24Matt Farah?

  Our friend, we do have friends who do a period correct cannonballs.

• 3:05:28Speaker 07

  I don't even know what that is.

• 3:05:29Matt Farah?

  It's a very, a very American thing. Um, it's a race from New York to Los Angeles. Illegal, um, underground, sort of public road racing.

• 3:05:39Speaker 07

  So there's a lot of tunnels to do that all underground?

• 3:05:41Matt Farah?

  No, like secret. Right, okay, sorry. Uh, I've already done four hours of radio, sorry. Um, and, uh, so they, they used to do it as a group, like it became, it was a thing. Like thirty cars would go at once, and now people still do it, but they go one at a time. But once in a while, they do period ones where they do it in cars from the seventies. And then, cause the cars are just slow, you can pretty much just like openly street race them and it doesn't matter.

• 3:06:07Speaker 07

  So it won't break any speed limits?

• 3:06:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it just doesn't matter. Like, have you ever heard of, you know, Beatleball? Beatleball's a, a, a race in Volkswagen Beetles.

• 3:06:14Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 3:06:15Matt Farah?

  Because they're so slow, you can just openly street race them. It doesn't make a difference. It's good. Yeah. How did you, are you friends with Sam?

• 3:06:22Speaker 07

  I am.

• 3:06:23Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool.

• 3:06:23Speaker 07

  Um, we, what, we met at Silverstone. And then he invited me on his podcast and we've kind of become friends since, did road trips and stuff. And then he's out here and I'm out here, so we decided to hang out.

• 3:06:38Matt Farah?

  And you, and just stop by? What do you think of our little place here?

• 3:06:40Speaker 07

  Very smart, isn't it?

• 3:06:41Matt Farah?

  It's cool, isn't it?

• 3:06:42Speaker 07

  Yeah, and my geography for LA is pretty horrific. Um, but yeah, the whole thing's quite cool. And there's really nice people.

• 3:06:49Speaker 05

  Where are you from in England?

• 3:06:50Speaker 07

  From south of London.

• 3:06:53Speaker 05

  What town?

• 3:06:53Speaker 07

  Like near Southampton-ish.

• 3:06:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:06:57Speaker 07

  That's me. Whereabouts do you live?

• 3:06:58Speaker 05

  Well, I live here.

• 3:07:00Speaker 07

  In LA?

• 3:07:00Speaker 05

  I was born in New York, grew up in Boston, but I've been here since the seventies, so.

• 3:07:05Matt Farah?

  Jay's like the car king of Los Angeles, pretty much.

• 3:07:08Speaker 07

  I've heard, cause I was, I spent the morning the other day with, uh, the lovely James May, who said that he-

• 3:07:15Speaker 05

  Oh, James, yeah.

• 3:07:16Speaker 07

  Was showing you his jeans. He bought some new jeans.

• 3:07:19Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 3:07:20Speaker 07

  And he showed you his jeans.

• 3:07:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:07:23Speaker 07

  Did you like his jeans?

• 3:07:24Speaker 05

  Uh, actually, they're-

• 3:07:26Matt Farah?

  Same jeans I have because he bought them here. The idea of James May going, "He's lovely, I'll have to show Jay."

• 3:07:34Speaker 07

  He said, "My jeans have ripped, so I went to Target and I bought some jeans and I had to show Jay because

• 3:07:40Matt Farah?

  Perfect.

• 3:07:41Speaker 07

  He would like my jeans."

• 3:07:43Matt Farah?

  Well, you'll have to, hopefully you don't have the same California experience he had. He came to this podcast and there was a 4.4... Oh, that was someone running down the stairs. There was a 4.4 earthquake during the show. Wow. And we got quite shaken.

• 3:07:58Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 3:07:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was fun.

• 3:07:59Speaker 07

  Well, he literally shaken off.

• 3:08:01Speaker 01

  He was like jet lagged and he's like, "Is that a real earthquake?" And we're like, "Yep."

• 3:08:03Matt Farah?

  Yep.

• 3:08:04Speaker 01

  Welcome to the town.

• 3:08:05Speaker 07

  Does that happen often?

• 3:08:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Depends on how big.

• 3:08:08Speaker 01

  There's a small one every day.

• 3:08:09Matt Farah?

  Well, you don't drink. No, I don't drink.

• 3:08:11Speaker 01

  Gin is so good.

• 3:08:11Matt Farah?

  The gin is so good.

• 3:08:13Speaker 01

  It's really good.

• 3:08:13Speaker 07

  Is it?

• 3:08:14Matt Farah?

  Have you tried the gin?

• 3:08:14Speaker 01

  We have so much of it.

• 3:08:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, do you want to? We have so much.

• 3:08:16Speaker 07

  Well, he gave me some little taster packs and he was walking along and doing his piece to camera on the beach. And I was like, "You've got to cover the gin because you're not allowed to, in this country at least, you can't just have booze rocking around."

• 3:08:25Matt Farah?

  Uh, you can if it's closed. You can't have an open container.

• 3:08:29Speaker 07

  It had water in it anyway.

• 3:08:30Matt Farah?

  But you could walk down the beach with a closed bottle, yeah. Okay.

• 3:08:32Speaker 07

  But it looked, he either, he kind of just wandering around with his little bottle of gin. Obviously, it was like to camera and everything, but it was quite a funny sight, just...

• 3:08:39Matt Farah?

  If you don't know James May and you saw him wandering around the beach with a bottle of gin, you'd go, "Yeah, attracts." Yeah, he's a quintessential Englishman. He just says it.

• 3:08:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:08:50Matt Farah?

  Oh, he did, talk about 90 minutes of radio that did not disappoint, was hanging out with that guy. No, he's great. What a winner. Yeah, I love him. Everything about him is great. He's a great guy, he's a great guy. How quickly you've, uh, sort of, I mean, come kind of out of nowhere with your Land Rover project and now you're writing for the intercooler, which is like, pretty much the best place to be writing right now?

• 3:09:11Speaker 07

  Well, see, that's all a little bit random as well.

• 3:09:15Speaker 07

  That whole, I'm not a journalist, but I am going to have to learn pretty quickly. So I met the lovely Andrew Frankel at Guanajuato Press Drive and then he invited me on the podcast and I was like, "Ooh, this is quite like a legit podcast. I don't really want to, I don't know, embarrass myself," whatever it was. But anyway, they were all really lovely and then they said, we went to the pub and they were like, "Do you want to write for us?" And I was like, "Hoo, okay." Like, what do I say? But I think we'll just take each story as it comes and, yeah, I'm excited.

• 3:09:46Matt Farah?

  Have they assigned you something or are you in charge of finding your own stories?

• 3:09:49Speaker 07

  They don't assign anyone anything. They say you do you and get them writing.

• 3:09:53Matt Farah?

  Well, you know, I've been writing for Octane for

• 3:09:55Speaker 05

  For twenty years.

• 3:09:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:09:56Speaker 05

  And I thought, oh, this is gonna be impossible. But after a while, it really becomes second nature. You just report on what you, exactly what you did.

• 3:10:03Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 3:10:04Speaker 05

  And, I mean, what you said here, where you're from, how you got here, but if you'd written all that down, it'd be just as interesting as you're speaking it.

• 3:10:12Speaker 07

  The punctuation would be a little bit more.

• 3:10:14Speaker 05

  Well, see, I don't handle, I give that to them and they.

• 3:10:16Matt Farah?

  Well, you have Andrew Frankel. He's, he knows what he's doing.

• 3:10:19Speaker 05

  They handle, they handle, that's what I do. I write my column and then I hand it in, they do all the correct pronunciation.

• 3:10:24Matt Farah?

  You don't, you write for other people, too. I've read your, you have, you write in Hagerty.

• 3:10:27Speaker 05

  Hagerty and.

• 3:10:28Matt Farah?

  And, uh, sports car market, you write here.

• 3:10:31Speaker 05

  No, not sports car market. But just, I mean, I, I thought it'd be just, oh, every month, oh, God. But no, it's actually, it's not, like, this month I wrote about taking my Countach apart and, and people seem fascinated by just how.

• 3:10:44Matt Farah?

  For sure.

• 3:10:44Speaker 05

  Complicated the stupid thing is, you know, yeah.

• 3:10:47Matt Farah?

  They are.

• 3:10:47Speaker 05

  But you just sit down, you put the pen in your hand, you'll find it'll become second nature.

• 3:10:50Speaker 07

  And has it taught you to, I suppose it has probably, to write better?

• 3:10:54Speaker 05

  Yes, it does. And it's also, it gives you some discipline. I got, when I have spare time, I go, okay. Like, I got a pool I've never been in. I've had the house for thirty years, I've never been, cause I get to the pool and I go.

• 3:11:06Matt Farah?

  One of my favorite things about you is the pool you've never been in.

• 3:11:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, I go, okay, really? You're gonna, you got nothing else to do than sit, sit in the water? Like, I'm from Boston, you know? What, you got nothing, you gonna sit in the water? Is that what, and, okay, now I'm wet, now what?

• 3:11:19Speaker 01

  So fancy, you can sit in the water.

• 3:11:21Speaker 05

  So I go back and, and when I sit down and I write something, as much as I hate sitting down to do it, what, two, three hours goes by really quickly and, oh, I produced something.

• 3:11:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:11:33Speaker 05

  Something people seem to like.

• 3:11:34Matt Farah?

  You kinda just have to start. You just have to, like, writing, writing the first sentence.

• 3:11:37Speaker 05

  The first one will be hard because you're, where am I coming from? Sometimes it's easier just giving you an assignment. What do you like about Land Rovers? What do you like about them? And you, you have things as a child, I wrote, what, my dad, whatever it might be. Then sometimes it's easier if you give yourself the assignment. Cause you just sit down and, oh, what's my first sentence, I don't know what to do. But, uh, just write what you know. I mean, to me, just your experiences, uh, you know, a female with a Land Rover, blah, blah. Whatever it might be, that, I think that'd be interesting. It's pretty, that's sort of how you get started.

• 3:12:12Matt Farah?

  My first paragraphs often become my second paragraphs of the finished piece.

• 3:12:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:12:18Matt Farah?

  The first thing I write.

• 3:12:19Speaker 07

  You always move it down.

• 3:12:20Matt Farah?

  I always end up going back and writing, once I get to the end, I go back and I go, okay, I need a better ending to match up with this.

• 3:12:28Speaker 05

  Right.

• 3:12:28Matt Farah?

  But I actually do want to keep the thing and it always, always becomes paragraph two.

• 3:12:33Speaker 07

  I suppose because if you pre-edit it too much before you write it, then you probably end up.

• 3:12:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah, not having it.

• 3:12:39Speaker 07

  Hello.

• 3:12:40Matt Farah?

  JF Musial has arrived. How you doing?

• 3:12:42Speaker 07

  Like my chair?

• 3:12:43Matt Farah?

  No, hey, what's up? Wait, we're gonna do, we're gonna do like seven more minutes, this configuration, and then I'm gonna take a quick bathroom break and we'll rejigger the studio.

• 3:12:53Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 3:12:54Matt Farah?

  Stay tuned, JF, I'm so glad you're here. Stay, Tati, stay, stay.

• 3:12:57Speaker 05

  Do you have more questions for me?

• 3:12:59Matt Farah?

  Do I have more, or can I get out of here? Particularly, no, not, not particularly. Do we have, I was just, I'm happy to see you. No one told me you were coming, so I didn't prepare. I don't even know who invited you. I'm happy they did, but whoever did, thank them. I'm happy you're here.

• 3:13:15Speaker 05

  Well, I called Spike to see what was going on today.

• 3:13:17Matt Farah?

  Oh, and he said. Oh, wow.

• 3:13:19Speaker 05

  That didn't really just show up.

• 3:13:21Matt Farah?

  No, no. You're always welcome. You are always welcome. And I invited you to do the show a couple of weeks ago and then we both, we both got busy. But no, you said, I said, what are you driving recently that you like? And you said your Countach, but we never circled back to that. It did start in a great story, but what else are you driving this week that you like?

• 3:13:38Speaker 05

  Huh, what else have I driven? You mean, new things?

• 3:13:41Matt Farah?

  Not necessarily. What, what, what, what did you look at and go, I'm gonna have a little of that this week?

• 3:13:46Speaker 05

  Oh, you know what I took out? I have a 65 Max Wedge Plymouth.

• 3:13:52Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 3:13:53Speaker 05

  It's a 426, not the Hemi head, 426.

• 3:13:57Speaker 07

  With uh

• 3:13:57Matt Farah?

  Is it bef- pre-hemi?

• 3:13:59Speaker 07

  Pre-hemi, the year before.

• 3:14:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, it's like a drag car, right?

• 3:14:02Speaker 07

  Well, it's like a stock car, yeah, yeah. But no power steering, no power brake, it's so much fun. I mean, it's got so much torque.

• 3:14:09Matt Farah?

  No power steering in a front engine muscle car.

• 3:14:11Speaker 07

  Yeah, it just, you see why they're called muscle cars.

• 3:14:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:14:14Speaker 07

  Give you muscles. Exactly, exactly.

• 3:14:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:14:17Speaker 07

  But yeah, you know, and it was so quick, you just touched the gas. You know, in America, horsepower cures any problem. Cause most, most 60s and 50s cars, they didn't stop, they didn't go around corners. But boy, there it is, that's mine right there.

• 3:14:31Matt Farah?

  Right here? The black one? What color, red?

• 3:14:34Speaker 07

  I put in, uh, put in Lenos.

• 3:14:37Matt Farah?

  Add his name.

• 3:14:38Speaker 07

  I should just add Leno to all.

• 3:14:39Matt Farah?

  You got SEO gold in the room, my friend, we can just have, add Leno to everything and we've got, there it is.

• 3:14:45Speaker 07

  There it is.

• 3:14:46Matt Farah?

  Oh, it looks good. Oh, your wheels are way better, your wheels are better than the other one.

• 3:14:50Speaker 07

  I like the dog dish up there.

• 3:14:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's got the cop, cop vibe.

• 3:14:53Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:14:53Matt Farah?

  No power steering in that thing, yikes. That's okay once you're moving. It's like an 18 inch diameter steering wheel.

• 3:14:59Speaker 07

  You know what's so funny, when I let young people, by young people, guys under 40, drive my cars. They go, this thing's gonna stop, you get, you press, I'm pressing the brake and I'm like, just press harder. Because I, you know, I think young people go up so much with power brake.

• 3:15:13Matt Farah?

  Very true, totally.

• 3:15:14Speaker 07

  You just touch it, you know, and he's like, I said, just use, use both feet. And he went, oh, okay.

• 3:15:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:15:19Speaker 07

  Yeah, but you'll get used to it, yeah, it's just funny. I know my friend drove my Land Rover down a hill in Switzerland. Yeah. She can't drive, but pretended it didn't do that, whatever. And I thought, oh, this'll be fine, she's going downhill, she doesn't really need to change gears or anything like that, she'll be fine. And I forgot about the horrific brakes and that you've kind of had to pump them a bit and go for it. What year Land Rover? Eight, 1985. Oh, oh, okay. She almost dropped the lift because of the brake, brakes, cause she didn't realize. I know, that's, yeah, I mean, you gotta be, you gotta be careful. Brake, brake, brake.

• 3:15:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I can deal with, I can deal with the power, no power brakes, but no power steering in a front engine car is tough.

• 3:15:55Speaker 07

  Have you driven any of the really vintage, like a 51, those? Land Rovers? Yeah, the classic ones. The little series ones. That lot, the, yes.

• 3:16:04Speaker 06

  It's a four-cylinder that gets the gas economy of a V12.

• 3:16:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:16:08Speaker 06

  I don't understand, it's slow. Why is it using all this gas?

• 3:16:12Speaker 01

  Those rings must not be very tight.

• 3:16:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's hilarious, I'm thinking, I'm gonna fill the tank again? I, I, I thought that one of the benefits would be forty miles per gallon.

• 3:16:20Matt Farah?

  You know what's funny, that's what I, that's what I said about the Mazda RX8. Which you brought up earlier.

• 3:16:25Speaker 06

  Well, that does.

• 3:16:25Matt Farah?

  Has the fuel economy of a big V8.

• 3:16:27Speaker 07

  But it's so light as well, there is really no need for them to be so inefficient.

• 3:16:31Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's right, I mean, it's light. It's light.

• 3:16:35Speaker 07

  It's slow.

• 3:16:36Speaker 06

  It has, it's slow.

• 3:16:37Matt Farah?

  Light and slow. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of Land Rovers. They're great if you're, you're sized. If you're me, my left arm does not have a place.

• 3:16:48Speaker 07

  You've got to go in a nice sunny day so you can get your arm up.

• 3:16:50Matt Farah?

  So I can really be hanging out of the vehicle.

• 3:16:52Speaker 07

  Chasing up the person in the next lane.

• 3:16:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's, it's not, in fact, we, you know, you said you met Sam on that Ineos launch. I tell people now and they go, I'm thinking about getting an old Land Rover, I said, just get an Ineos, that's really kind of what you want.

• 3:17:04Speaker 07

  It's, yes, it definitely has a lot more modern, mod-cons, yeah.

• 3:17:09Matt Farah?

  It's just more comfortable.

• 3:17:10Speaker 07

  Well, I don't know, yeah, I used to think that the seat was really, really, really comfortable. I've had quite bad hip problems, I do genuinely a bit anyway, but I've.

• 3:17:19Matt Farah?

  Do you think it's because you drive a Land Rover?

• 3:17:21Speaker 07

  No, no, Land Rover's fine, I've done like fourteen hours straight from Switzerland back to England in my Land Rover at about forty-three miles an hour, totally fine. This car, and I put one of my friends in it the other day, and they can't fit in the seat. Like, the seats are like, ooh, ooh, ooh, and my hips are really sore from it. And I've done a lot of hours in that car.

• 3:17:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, do you mean the, the, the lower cushion and the angle that it's on?

• 3:17:43Speaker 07

  Yeah, because the seat's like this, so your legs are up, but your hips, if you're gonna get a video about it, your hips are really compressed.

• 3:17:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:17:50Speaker 07

  And it's fine if you put in cruise control, but then cruise control's a bit, like, lurchy.

• 3:17:53Matt Farah?

  That happens in sports cars a lot, it probably shouldn't happen in SUVs.

• 3:17:57Speaker 07

  No.

• 3:17:58Matt Farah?

  Probably not.

• 3:17:58Speaker 07

  No, but it's weird having all of the, doing a road trip in a car with all of the buttons and all of the mod-cons. Because sometimes they work, sometimes they don't work, and if they don't work, I'm just like, well, just ignore them and whatever. But it's, um, I wouldn't say it's any, it feels safer doing a road trip in a car that works. But I wouldn't say it was any necessarily easy, you just took the longer drive to drive.

• 3:18:19Matt Farah?

  I'll tell you what, it's easy, it's when you're in a Range Rover. When you're in a Ra- when you're doing it in a Rangey, then you're.

• 3:18:24Speaker 07

  Old or new?

• 3:18:25Matt Farah?

  New.

• 3:18:26Speaker 07

  Mm.

• 3:18:26Matt Farah?

  The best Range Rover is always the newest Range Rover, always.

• 3:18:31Speaker 07

  I have not spent a lot of time in any new or old Range Rovers. The old ones definitely tickle my fancy.

• 3:18:37Matt Farah?

  Well, we're, because now you have a job for the intercooler, we're gonna get you in one.

• 3:18:41Speaker 07

  So weird, because also, I've been like camping around and not, not like with anybody.

• 3:18:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:18:47Speaker 07

  So the, then for you to be like, oh, you do this for this, I'm like, yes, this is actually what I'm doing now.

• 3:18:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah, now you have a career, welcome.

• 3:18:53Speaker 05

  A Land Rover and Range Rover.

• 3:18:54Speaker 01

  Good club.

• 3:18:55Speaker 05

  Connected.

• 3:18:56Matt Farah?

  Land Rover is the big company, Range Rover is the model, the, the model variant.

• 3:19:00Speaker 05

  Oh, I see, okay, all about this. But it's, yeah, it's a, that's what I thought.

• 3:19:02Matt Farah?

  Same company, yes.

• 3:19:03Speaker 07

  It's the luxury Land Rover.

• 3:19:05Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 3:19:05Speaker 07

  It saved the company back in the seventies, whatever it was.

• 3:19:08Matt Farah?

  Um, I very much have to, uh, use the restroom, Jay, we can head, we can, you can head out if you want, we thank, we appreciate you.

• 3:19:14Speaker 05

  I want to see the car, Shay.

• 3:19:15Matt Farah?

  Uh, well, I'm doing a min- I'm in the middle of an eight hour livestream.

• 3:19:18Speaker 05

  Are you doing an eight hour livestream?

• 3:19:19Matt Farah?

  Yes. So I, I can't really go.

• 3:19:22Speaker 05

  Well, thanks for having me, actually.

• 3:19:23Matt Farah?

  I can't really go very far.

• 3:19:25Speaker 07

  Did you take the livestream downstairs?

• 3:19:26Speaker 01

  They just carry everything all at once. I'll, I'll watch for your written pieces.

• 3:19:30Matt Farah?

  Zach, I'll hold, I'll hold it down for a minute, can we, can you, can you go grab reinforcements? Tati, stay, stay for a second.

• 3:19:36Speaker 07

  Do you need a wee though?

• 3:19:37Matt Farah?

  I do, but I'll wait till, I'll wait till we have cycles.

• 3:19:40Speaker 07

  I'll sit in the computer.

• 3:19:41Matt Farah?

  Sit wherever.

• 3:19:42Speaker 07

  Lovely to meet you.

• 3:19:43Matt Farah?

  Sit where, sit where you see, thank you so much Shay, we really appreciate it. Shay Leno, how about that? Television host extraordinaire. And then there were two.

• 3:19:51Speaker 07

  How you doing?

• 3:19:52Matt Farah?

  How you doing?

• 3:19:53Speaker 07

  How you doing?

• 3:19:54Matt Farah?

  How long you in L.A. for?

• 3:19:55Speaker 07

  Uh, till this afternoon.

• 3:19:56Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 3:19:57Speaker 07

  But I was thinking about extending my flights, and then they told me it was six hundred pounds.

• 3:20:00Matt Farah?

  That's probably.

• 3:20:00Speaker 07

  To leave my, I was like, I can't bother.

• 3:20:02Matt Farah?

  Just heading home?

• 3:20:03Speaker 07

  Heading home.

• 3:20:04Matt Farah?

  All right.

• 3:20:05Speaker 07

  But I am plotting my way of staying in America forever.

• 3:20:08Matt Farah?

  Well, now's the time, no, uh, uh, it's, it's all right here, we, we don't have to deal with a lot.

• 3:20:13Speaker 07

  You American born and bred?

• 3:20:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, from New York and I moved here, yeah. Yeah, oh, Johnny's back, yeah, USA. Uh, but I've traveled, I've traveled to Europe and other places a lot.

• 3:20:25Speaker 07

  Have a passport?

• 3:20:25Matt Farah?

  More than other people. Yeah, I've, I've, I've filled passports.

• 3:20:28Speaker 07

  Have you?

• 3:20:29Matt Farah?

  I have filled a passport, yeah. Right, John Francis. Speaking of filled passports, this is JF. Tati, have you met JF before?

• 3:20:35Speaker 07

  Oh, we did. Hello.

• 3:20:36Matt Farah?

  So, JF Musial is in the house.

• 3:20:39Speaker 07

  Hello.

• 3:20:39Matt Farah?

  JF has, JF is probably the most frequent flyer that I know, period. Lives, lives in airports, knows everything about how to fucking get points.

• 3:20:51Speaker 07

  He's got all the points.

• 3:20:51Matt Farah?

  He's a producer, makes films and videos, and he was my first producer.

• 3:20:56Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 3:20:57Matt Farah?

  And...

• 3:20:57Speaker 07

  Producer, director, I don't even know what it was.

• 3:20:59Matt Farah?

  Producer, director, I don't know, something, something, but now he's here.

• 3:21:02Speaker 07

  And now you're here, you got on a plane to get here? No, I actually was in Las Vegas for the past three days and I drove out. Yeah, I was gonna fly home and then I was like, this worked out perfectly, so I drove in, yeah.

• 3:21:11Matt Farah?

  Were you in Vegas for PizzaCon?

• 3:21:13Speaker 07

  Uh, no, it was...

• 3:21:15Matt Farah?

  So you were shooting B-roll for the car I went to drive?

• 3:21:17Speaker 07

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 3:21:18Matt Farah?

  For, uh, uh, E-tron?

• 3:21:20Speaker 07

  Not B-roll, but something else.

• 3:21:21Matt Farah?

  GT Performance.

• 3:21:22Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 3:21:23Matt Farah?

  Um...

• 3:21:24Speaker 07

  Man, it's so weird to see you wearing glasses as much as you do now.

• 3:21:27Matt Farah?

  Doesn't it make me look smarter?

• 3:21:28Speaker 07

  It's not just that, it's just...

• 3:21:29Matt Farah?

  I think it really does.

• 3:21:30Speaker 07

  It reminds me of like, old days with you.

• 3:21:32Matt Farah?

  Old days?

• 3:21:33Speaker 07

  Yeah, just the idea of like, you look young.

• 3:21:36Matt Farah?

  I look young?

• 3:21:36Speaker 07

  Yes, you do.

• 3:21:37Matt Farah?

  Like this?

• 3:21:37Speaker 07

  Yes, you do.

• 3:21:38Matt Farah?

  Oh, with a white beard and glasses, I don't think I look young at all. Do you know that me and Zach are the same age?

• 3:21:46Speaker 07

  No comment.

• 3:21:46Matt Farah?

  We are.

• 3:21:49Matt Farah?

  We really are. Um...

• 3:21:50Speaker 07

  How's it been going?

• 3:21:51Matt Farah?

  It's been going great, but I have to, uh, as Tati put it, "we."

• 3:21:55Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:21:55Matt Farah?

  Um, will you excuse me for a minute? Zach?

• 3:22:00Speaker 07

  Here's the whole music.

• 3:22:01Speaker 01

  So, JF, nice to meet you.

• 3:22:01Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:22:04Speaker 07

  Have you been going non-stop and you don't take, like, you just walk out? What would you run out of? Okay, you don't have a... Run out of things to say? What? What, do you run out of things to say? I just got here, so I don't know, I haven't... Well, you wouldn't run out, no, but what, do you not run out of things to say?

• 3:22:16Speaker 01

  Well, that's why we propped it up with so many guests, so we can keep asking people questions, rotate them in and out. If it was just he and I for eight hours straight, we would probably run out of things to say.

• 3:22:24Speaker 07

  How random has the topics got?

• 3:22:26Speaker 01

  Oh, all over the map, for sure. I mean, random car stories, unrelated things, Zuckerman's business, all kinds of shit.

• 3:22:34Speaker 01

  Hello!

• 3:22:38Speaker 01

  The audience will be very happy with this change. We paused, or we're still live? No, we're still going. We're never stopping. I just walked in too, so I don't know what the fuck. You can sit down. Matt went to the restroom. Oh my god, his notes? He's so prepared? Yeah, we got questions to ask, he'll keep it going. He's had those notebooks for like 15 years. He must have like a whole collection, right? He has like 50. And 25 of them are empty. And then he'll go, "I want a different one for the next one." Do you ever go to? What's in them? Me? No, I'm not doing that. That seems like an invasion of privacy. It's mostly to-do lists for the whole day. That's really what it is. But there's also lots of questions. Amelia Hartford, welcome back. Nice to you. You haven't been here for a little while.

• 3:23:13Speaker 07

  It's been a minute, yeah.

• 3:23:14Speaker 01

  But you've been like doing movie things and all kinds of other shit.

• 3:23:17Speaker 07

  Keeping busy. Sorry, I just hijacked your guys' podcast.

• 3:23:20Speaker 01

  There's no system.

• 3:23:21Speaker 07

  I literally just came for a gift to drop off and say congrats, and I had to leave. He's like, "No, no, two seconds, pop on, say hi."

• 3:23:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:23:27Speaker 07

  This is me saying hi.

• 3:23:28Speaker 01

  Fantastic. Thank you so much for coming by.

• 3:23:29Speaker 07

  Of course. I'm gonna put this here, so I'm not just ASMR-ing in the mic.

• 3:23:33Speaker 01

  This is the sound of potato chips being made. I'll wait till Matt gets here to pull, to open that up.

• 3:23:38Speaker 07

  It's just a bottle of wine.

• 3:23:39Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 3:23:39Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:23:40Speaker 01

  Surprise ruined.

• 3:23:41Speaker 07

  Damn it. It's okay, just don't tell him. I'm sure he knows. No, lovely to meet you, but I see you as the stuff on the internet. Oh my god, thank you. Interneting things. Yes. I'm Amelia. Lovely to meet you, Tati.

• 3:23:52Speaker 01

  Oh, right. That's part of it. That's part of the introduction, Zach. I handed it off to you, you didn't help. As usual. Okay, yeah. We worked together for like six years.

• 3:24:02Speaker 07

  I was gonna say, I love this finger pointing, this blame.

• 3:24:05Speaker 01

  I think we've known, it's 15 years? I've known you since 2010. Shit, yeah. But I worked for you for eight years, whatever. A long time. Zach and I bonded on a road trip across country. Well, I got kidnapped. I got invited to do a road trip, but it was a job interview. It included a hotel stay.

• 3:24:24Matt Farah?

  Power me on. Am I on?

• 3:24:25Speaker 07

  Oh, you're on. You're still like, this is no karaoke. What's your song of choice?

• 3:24:30Matt Farah?

  I'm so happy Amelia's here. What a treat. Everyone's here. Thank you so much for coming.

• 3:24:34Speaker 07

  Of course, I had to come support you. I wish I could stay longer, but it's a...

• 3:24:38Matt Farah?

  You're doing huge things right now. It's amazing.

• 3:24:40Speaker 07

  Oh my god, thank you. That means a lot.

• 3:24:41Matt Farah?

  You got modeling, you got premieres.

• 3:24:42Speaker 07

  And my modeling.

• 3:24:43Matt Farah?

  GT40 builds, you've got records with Nissan Z's. When did you run the quarter mile in that car?

• 3:24:51Speaker 07

  That was December 18th, I believe.

• 3:24:53Matt Farah?

  And what was the number?

• 3:24:55Speaker 07

  Oh, what was it? There was a 775 at 181 in the quarter mile. I'm actually going back on Tuesday to...

• 3:25:01Matt Farah?

  Is that shifting?

• 3:25:02Speaker 07

  Shoot? No, no, no, no, no. It's a turbo four.

• 3:25:04Matt Farah?

  Oh, thank you.

• 3:25:05Speaker 03

  Ice Boy is here.

• 3:25:05Speaker 01

  Do you have to use parachute for that?

• 3:25:07Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:25:07Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 3:25:07Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's the first time I've ever using them. My first time-

• 3:25:10Speaker 01

  What does that feel like?

• 3:25:10Speaker 07

  Well, my first time using it, the car got sideways. I'd never used a parachute before.

• 3:25:15Matt Farah?

  Johnny, oh, a chute? How fun is that?

• 3:25:17Speaker 07

  So cool, but I had never used one before, so I didn't know if the car got sideways, if I would have that muscle memory to pull the chute. Car gets sideways, thank god, my first thought was, shoot.

• 3:25:27Matt Farah?

  Pull the chute, yeah.

• 3:25:27Speaker 07

  But like, I want to go- Literally shoot. Yeah. Shoot? Yeah, gosh darn it. I went to go reach the handle, but the car was sideways, so I had to grab the wheel again, and then I had to go back for the handle. So now I'm gonna use a button on the steering wheel. In fact, I'm gonna wire it to the horn, so when I hit the horn, the chute goes.

• 3:25:43Matt Farah?

  That's awesome. I submitted for this month's issue of Road and Track, was the bucket list issue, so I submitted a whole bunch of ideas of like, things that you wanna do. And one was pull a chute on a dragster. I've actually, I actually got to do that at Bonneville.

• 3:26:01Speaker 07

  So sick. I wanna do Bonneville.

• 3:26:03Matt Farah?

  I did 214 miles an hour in a Jetta.

• 3:26:05Speaker 07

  Oh my god.

• 3:26:06Matt Farah?

  And it was two chutes, two handles.

• 3:26:10Speaker 07

  That's so cool.

• 3:26:10Matt Farah?

  Because it was front-wheel drive, you were actually, you stay in the throttle- To keep the top down, yeah. And pull the chute to stabilize it, and then you lift.

• 3:26:19Speaker 07

  Oh, interesting.

• 3:26:20Matt Farah?

  It was nuts.

• 3:26:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, because drag racing, everything's rear-wheel drive. I didn't even think about that.

• 3:26:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:26:24Speaker 07

  So the Superbird I'm building right now, I actually wanna hit 200 in Bonneville with that.

• 3:26:30Matt Farah?

  Good luck. No, it's, no, for sure.

• 3:26:32Speaker 07

  Was it scary?

• 3:26:34Matt Farah?

  You know what? No. I mean, even though I was in a fucking Jetta, you didn't even notice the speed until you got to like a buck eighty.

• 3:26:43Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:26:44Matt Farah?

  It was nothing. There's no reference points. Yeah, I mean, until you get to like the top of fifth gear, it was like, like, no big deal at all.

• 3:26:52Speaker 07

  And then what? It felt all of a sudden like-

• 3:26:54Matt Farah?

  Like 205 to 215 was like mildly hairy.

• 3:26:57Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:26:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah, mildly hairy. The problem, the problem is like, if you get out of the groove and off- Off the groom's surface, you can dig in. It's gonna get shady. It was cool, it had a, it had a literal, like, I'm in the, where the passenger seat was, was a literal chest of ice. And that was the intercooler. And they had to dump the ice every time. It was like fifty gallons of ice, and it was good for one run.

• 3:27:20Speaker 07

  I love it.

• 3:27:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was awesome.

• 3:27:22Speaker 07

  Race car things.

• 3:27:23Matt Farah?

  Race car shit. Old hot rod shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, total race car shit. Yeah, it was great. Uh, everything else good with you?

• 3:27:28Speaker 07

  No, everything's good. Yeah, everything's great. No complaints?

• 3:27:31Matt Farah?

  Good.

• 3:27:31Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:27:32Matt Farah?

  Good, good, good.

• 3:27:32Speaker 07

  Thankful to do what I do every day for a living.

• 3:27:35Matt Farah?

  Oh, aren't we all?

• 3:27:36Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:27:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah. But is, is actually like, like YouTube and stuff is like going bad for the rest of us. Is it not the case for you?

• 3:27:43Speaker 07

  Is it?

• 3:27:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:27:44Speaker 07

  That reaction tells the story.

• 3:27:45Matt Farah?

  That is a good answer. Oh, good.

• 3:27:47Speaker 07

  Yeah, I'm, I'm very fortunate. My views are kind of at an all time high right now.

• 3:27:51Matt Farah?

  Really?

• 3:27:51Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:27:51Matt Farah?

  God damn, good for you. Well, I'm not jealous at all.

• 3:27:54Speaker 07

  Well, if I can, if I can help, let me know.

• 3:27:56Matt Farah?

  We need more drag cars. No, last time you were here, we had like, we were stuck at like nine hundred and ninety-five thousand subscribers for like a while.

• 3:28:04Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:28:05Matt Farah?

  And you did an Instagram and we, within like two hours, got to the million.

• 3:28:09Speaker 07

  That was so cool. And then when I came back, you had the The plaque. The plaque on the wall.

• 3:28:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah. They, they make you actively check for that. And it takes months to get it. It takes months to get it.

• 3:28:19Speaker 07

  Well, and apparently TikTok does it too.

• 3:28:21Matt Farah?

  Oh, really?

• 3:28:21Speaker 07

  And I had no idea, and I still don't have mine, but whatever.

• 3:28:24Matt Farah?

  Oh. Well, do you have to apply?

• 3:28:25Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:28:26Matt Farah?

  And say, hey, just so you know, I'm on your platform.

• 3:28:28Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:28:29Matt Farah?

  No, I think, I think, I think you, once you get to whatever the milestone is, you have to then say, yes, I would like Yes, I want it. A physical plaque. Can you say, I got there in five seconds, or three, I got to the mile in very speedy time? I don't know, is that a thing? I don't know. Do you have a record? No, I don't have any records. Oh, okay. Uh, do you have a record with getting to a certain milestone in a period of time?

• 3:28:51Speaker 07

  No, I don't think so.

• 3:28:52Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 3:28:52Speaker 07

  It's always just been a slow climb.

• 3:28:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it has.

• 3:28:56Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:28:56Matt Farah?

  Except some of us aren't climbing, we're just That's not true. Don't say that.

• 3:29:01Speaker 07

  Rip.

• 3:29:01Matt Farah?

  Don't say that. No, no, no, we're, we're, we're just, you know, we're the old guys now, so it's okay.

• 3:29:06Speaker 07

  Uh, I don't, I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I wouldn't say old guys.

• 3:29:11Matt Farah?

  It's all right, we're parking cars over here. Experienced, Matt, we're experienced. We're very experienced. Can't you see the experience on my beard?

• 3:29:17Speaker 07

  You guys pay, you guys walk so we could run.

• 3:29:19Matt Farah?

  That's true.

• 3:29:20Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:29:21Matt Farah?

  JF was, was the first through like seven walls that the next people made like huge fortunes on.

• 3:29:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we, me, JF in some cases with my help, got kicked in the teeth nineteen fucking times so Still counting. People could become billionaires.

• 3:29:39Speaker 07

  Okay, I, I will say my, my favorite video on the internet still lives to this day and it's you and Rob seeing who can get a speeding ticket first.

• 3:29:48Matt Farah?

  You know what's so crazy about that? It's like blowing up again, right now, right now.

• 3:29:51Speaker 07

  I saw it on my TikTok recently.

• 3:29:52Matt Farah?

  You've seen this shit on Instagram. Every six months, this clip, there's a clip that gets circled. Yeah. Of me being pulled over by the police and the cop says to me like, what were you doing? And I say something like, I think that was a reasonable place to pass at the time. I'd passed the truck on the shoulder. My friend and I had a ticket to see who could get, a contest to see who could get a ticket first intentionally.

• 3:30:11Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 3:30:12Matt Farah?

  It's not something you should be doing.

• 3:30:14Speaker 07

  Well, a bit here, it's not points in your license, is it?

• 3:30:16Matt Farah?

  No, it is, it was, and they were real and it was bad. It was all bad. It was very stupid. You shouldn't do this.

• 3:30:20Speaker 07

  At least you got, you know, points in some way, good points.

• 3:30:23Matt Farah?

  We got, yeah, blocks of points. Kudos points, yeah, yeah.

• 3:30:25Speaker 07

  Gold stars all around.

• 3:30:26Matt Farah?

  It pays every day without money, yeah. The full, yeah, the full video is like thirty-five minutes long and there's like a lot to it, but it's just that thirty-second clip that gets circulated with my sideburns, you know, they were fire.

• 3:30:39Speaker 07

  Would you let my chair?

• 3:30:40Matt Farah?

  No, no, I'm okay.

• 3:30:41Speaker 07

  I, I actually need to go. I really only had a second.

• 3:30:44Matt Farah?

  Thank you for whatever's in that bag and for being a great friend. Zach Garder ruined the surprise, so.

• 3:30:48Speaker 07

  Even though I couldn't say it meant so much for me to bear the traffic and come here just to give you a hug and say congratulations.

• 3:30:54Matt Farah?

  That ratio, that you came all the way over here just to say hi.

• 3:30:57Speaker 07

  More time will be spent in the car, but.

• 3:30:59Matt Farah?

  It's like a press trip. By multiples.

• 3:31:01Speaker 07

  No, no.

• 3:31:02Matt Farah?

  It's like flying thirty hours, drive two laps and then go home. Unbelievable. Thank you for coming.

• 3:31:05Speaker 07

  Congratulations on a thousand.

• 3:31:07Matt Farah?

  And then you can, and then you can go back into traffic.

• 3:31:08Speaker 07

  Enjoy the wine.

• 3:31:10Matt Farah?

  Oh, thank you. We love you so much. Drive safe.

• 3:31:13Speaker 07

  Of course. Bye, you guys.

• 3:31:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, my God.

• 3:31:16Speaker 07

  Timing. You guys have a great day.

• 3:31:19Matt Farah?

  Thank you so much. Drive safely. We love you. Oh, will you pass me my beverage, JF? Um, okay, Tati, before we send you back to the UK and on your way, we're gonna have you, ask you the three questions that we're asking everybody. Okay, very easy. Uh, we started this podcast in twenty twelve. We've done a thousand of them. What were you doing in twenty twelve?

• 3:31:40Speaker 07

  I was at school. I...

• 3:31:45Speaker 07

  Ooh, I was at school, having a great time.

• 3:31:48Speaker 01

  Like sixth grade.

• 3:31:49Matt Farah?

  In what grade are we talking about?

• 3:31:50Speaker 07

  Like, so, uh, well, uh, I was ten.

• 3:31:54Matt Farah?

  Okay, yeah, so that's...

• 3:31:55Speaker 01

  Wasn't far off.

• 3:31:56Matt Farah?

  So you were chilling.

• 3:31:57Speaker 07

  I was having a great time. Um, I think, I think that might have been the year that we found a bat in drains. And I, I put the bat in a hamster cage, and I think I had a few hamsters then. It was great, we had a couple of dogs, it was lovely.

• 3:32:12Speaker 01

  Whereas the rat in the cage with the hamsters?

• 3:32:13Matt Farah?

  And that's how I started the plague.

• 3:32:15Speaker 07

  No, the, the hamsters, I think it either died, or, or we found a separate cage for the bat.

• 3:32:21Speaker 01

  Wanted to see if they became friends or didn't.

• 3:32:23Speaker 07

  No, no, the bat had to...

• 3:32:24Matt Farah?

  They were just gone one day, we can't really prove it.

• 3:32:27Speaker 01

  Bat got bigger, bat got real big.

• 3:32:29Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 3:32:29Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:32:30Matt Farah?

  Okay. Best road trip?

• 3:32:32Speaker 07

  Ever?

• 3:32:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:32:33Speaker 07

  That I've done or would dream to do?

• 3:32:35Matt Farah?

  Ever, no, that you have done.

• 3:32:37Speaker 07

  Oh, summer twenty-three.

• 3:32:38Matt Farah?

  Uh huh.

• 3:32:39Speaker 07

  Before any of the internet happened in my life. Frickin' best time ever. Just rocked around in my Land Rover for two and a half months, had friends coming in and out. Broke down every four days. Nobody knew what I was doing, where I was going. I didn't have to communicate with anybody or say anything, or take any photographs or anything. And we just drove around.

• 3:32:59Matt Farah?

  That's nice.

• 3:32:59Speaker 07

  Explored with total freedom and peace and fumes and breaking down and grease and delightfulness.

• 3:33:07Speaker 01

  Did you have a destination, or were you just all over Europe?

• 3:33:10Speaker 07

  Just kind of, yeah, so I would, um, drive to an airport with a friend, drop them, pick up a new friend, and kind of relay it that way. And then we ended up going from France down through northern Italy and then back up through the Dolomites.

• 3:33:22Matt Farah?

  Sick.

• 3:33:24Speaker 01

  That's great.

• 3:33:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's fantastic.

• 3:33:25Speaker 07

  That was summer.

• 3:33:25Matt Farah?

  That's a good road trip. Don't forget about doing that, now that you're a professional at doing that.

• 3:33:31Speaker 07

  What, going on a road trip and not talking to anyone about it?

• 3:33:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, don't forget to like, do the thing for fun, also.

• 3:33:38Speaker 07

  Well, this is the whole plan about this, was it, was that, and then, yeah, just do it for fun. It's the fun balance of how do you do that?

• 3:33:46Speaker 01

  It's hard. I just did a two-week road trip with my wife at the beginning of the year and I didn't have to make content.

• 3:33:50Speaker 07

  Which is good.

• 3:33:51Speaker 01

  And we didn't have a schedule. We drove from Atlanta all the way back here. And, you know, it wasn't the most indirect thing, but we got to stop at a ton of national parks in Colorado and Utah. And we didn't have a schedule to adhere to, so we went, "Oh, we'll stay here for another day and see more shit." And it is hard when this, when that activity becomes your job, to then do it for fun. But it is important, and I think if you can hang on to that, do so.

• 3:34:16Matt Farah?

  I don't do a lot of car things for fun anymore, but the ones that I do, where I really make it about fun, are become very fun.

• 3:34:21Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's one of my biggest regrets is not, I got, yeah, I got stuck into the whole, kind of like, doing my hobby and my passion as a career, and I forgot what my hobby and my passion was. And it's one of my biggest regrets.

• 3:34:34Speaker 07

  But it doesn't take long to be able to get, literally, it's like a day. You're just like, "Oh, I just need a day to do that."

• 3:34:40Speaker 05

  I know, I know. But one day turns into a week, turns into a month, turns into a year. Welcome to 15 years later. That's, yeah, I regret that.

• 3:34:47Matt Farah?

  He has a, he has a real problem with work-life balance.

• 3:34:51Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 3:34:51Matt Farah?

  You shouldn't, you should keep him at arms.

• 3:34:55Speaker 05

  I'm on the extreme side of the scale. I'm on the extreme side of the, listen, this was my passion. This was everything. And I turned it into a career, and I just kept doing it, kept doing it, because I never wanted it to go away. I was like, "I love it so much," but then I realized it is, wait, this has consumed me way too much.

• 3:35:10Speaker 01

  And I will defend you, where it's the volume of work, of work transformed from your hobby that then obscures the hobby. So like, I don't work as much as you, but we do a lot of this stuff.

• 3:35:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:35:22Speaker 01

  And it can still take away the part of your brain that goes, "That's my hobby."

• 3:35:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:35:25Speaker 01

  You don't even have to be as dedicated as you are.

• 3:35:28Matt Farah?

  All right. This one, this one maybe, I don't know how this is gonna land with you, but let's just say you are given unlimited money to buy your dream vehicle. What is it?

• 3:35:44Speaker 07

  I kind of already have it. It's my Land Rover and I would take the money and say, "Thank you very much," and run away very quickly, go to a parts shop, buy all the parts, and put them all in my Land Rover, and with a little micro mechanic in a box that knows some things that I don't know, and then just drive around. But if it would... Because my Land Rover's great because it can do everything and go everywhere I want to go. But if I was to play ball with your question a bit more, and say, "Right, okay, I'll buy a whole car that actually works, like a reliable amount of the time." Oh, I really like an Austin Healey at the moment.

• 3:36:20Matt Farah?

  That's your fucking car that works all the time?

• 3:36:23Speaker 07

  Yeah, why not?

• 3:36:24Speaker 01

  That's a brave person.

• 3:36:25Speaker 07

  It's so sweet!

• 3:36:26Matt Farah?

  What kind of English person are you that you think that's a reliable car?

• 3:36:30Speaker 07

  Well, because I would buy a really expensive one that would work the whole time.

• 3:36:33Matt Farah?

  That's true, I did say unlimited money. There are no guarantees. Things are related, let me assure you.

• 3:36:39Speaker 01

  They also... People there also built and designed those cars originally when they didn't work all the time, and they were like, "This is the best." So, I think she's right in line with that.

• 3:36:47Speaker 07

  There would be no... The whole modern supercar thing doesn't fust me. Yes, it sounds right at all.

• 3:36:52Matt Farah?

  That's fine.

• 3:36:53Speaker 07

  But they just...

• 3:36:54Matt Farah?

  I didn't expect you to say that what you really wanted was a $3 million Ferrari. What she really said was mechanic in a box. Like, that is... Yeah, yeah. It's not about the car, but how much does a slave cost that knows about Land Rovers?

• 3:37:08Speaker 01

  You hire an employee. For $9 million, you can have a riding mechanic that...

• 3:37:13Matt Farah?

  Riding mechanic is really...

• 3:37:14Speaker 01

  That built the car. You can have the engineer. You can have the original engineer, right?

• 3:37:18Speaker 07

  The more I get, though, exposed to all of the new fun stuff that works with buttons, then that does become quite exciting and slightly appealing in its own sense. I drove a Macan GTS the other day, and I was like, "Ooh, quite like that."

• 3:37:30Matt Farah?

  But that was a tree, wasn't it?

• 3:37:32Speaker 07

  That made fun noises.

• 3:37:33Matt Farah?

  There's a reason that, once people start driving Porsches, they don't really go back. Yeah, Porsche doesn't lose a lot of people.

• 3:37:39Speaker 07

  Oh, and I also get a Mustang. I'd get a lot of cars that... I take all of your unlimited money and get a lot of different cars up, but I do want a Mustang as well.

• 3:37:46Speaker 01

  Which one? What year?

• 3:37:48Matt Farah?

  Like a new one or an old one?

• 3:37:49Speaker 07

  A red one. Seventies convertible.

• 3:37:52Speaker 01

  Seventies Mustang two or the good one?

• 3:37:55Matt Farah?

  I don't really know, but I want a cool red one.

• 3:37:57Speaker 07

  It doesn't steer very well, it's very long.

• 3:37:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, the long nose, the long nose is seventies.

• 3:38:03Speaker 07

  And a Scout.

• 3:38:04Matt Farah?

  The big schnoz, oh Scout, God, you like garbage. You like the worst, they're the worst built cars in the history of cars.

• 3:38:12Speaker 07

  They're so sweet.

• 3:38:13Matt Farah?

  I respect it, but man, do you like awful cars.

• 3:38:17Speaker 07

  No, I don't want one that look that's like that.

• 3:38:18Matt Farah?

  Show her like a sixty-six convertible, she doesn't, she doesn't really.

• 3:38:23Speaker 07

  I want one of those ones.

• 3:38:24Matt Farah?

  Not one of those?

• 3:38:25Speaker 07

  Almost, but not quite.

• 3:38:26Matt Farah?

  How about like a late sixties convertible?

• 3:38:28Speaker 01

  What is it about that one you don't like?

• 3:38:29Speaker 07

  I'm not quite entirely sure, but I think the grille's in the wrong place.

• 3:38:33Matt Farah?

  It's in the wrong place.

• 3:38:34Speaker 01

  It's in the front of the car.

• 3:38:34Matt Farah?

  Well, that one, that one is like a base little one, the six cylinder that has like, you know, no balls. Well, if you want, yeah, six, show her the sixty-eight convertible.

• 3:38:42Speaker 07

  I like that one, sixty-eight, that one.

• 3:38:43Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 3:38:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah, sixty-eight convertible, yeah, okay.

• 3:38:46Speaker 01

  Great.

• 3:38:47Speaker 07

  Yeah, see the grille's in.

• 3:38:48Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 3:38:48Speaker 01

  Oh, I see what you mean.

• 3:38:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, oh, it's recessed, yes.

• 3:38:52Speaker 01

  Cause the hood overreach has got more lean to it.

• 3:38:53Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool, so what you, what you want is a sixty-seven to sixty-nine Mustang. Minus those wheels, but yeah. We have a couple of them here downstairs.

• 3:39:01Speaker 07

  I like the chrome wheel.

• 3:39:02Matt Farah?

  Really?

• 3:39:02Speaker 07

  Do you not? I'm a chrome wheel man.

• 3:39:04Matt Farah?

  It's very, uh, it's very, what were you doing in twenty twelve?

• 3:39:09Speaker 07

  What were you doing in twenty twelve?

• 3:39:10Matt Farah?

  Not having chromes, uh, no, people like, like, chromes like two thousand to two thousand and ten.

• 3:39:17Speaker 07

  Right.

• 3:39:17Matt Farah?

  A lot of these cars ended up on chromes and not great.

• 3:39:20Speaker 01

  But that whack, that wheel design, it's like the five spoke mag. It's classic, always good, but they look better in like gray or brush chrome.

• 3:39:28Matt Farah?

  The torque thrust style wheel, yeah.

• 3:39:29Speaker 07

  That's an intense name.

• 3:39:30Speaker 01

  If you get a Scout, just change the engine.

• 3:39:32Speaker 07

  Torque thrust.

• 3:39:34Speaker 01

  It's what we do here.

• 3:39:35Matt Farah?

  You know, it's funny, it hasn't occurred to me before, but like, that's America, yeah. What do you want to call it? Torque thrust?

• 3:39:43Speaker 07

  These long talk through.

• 3:39:44Speaker 01

  That is word salad.

• 3:39:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, well, our names are really silly for stuff, but like 1980s Japanese vans take stupid names to the whole other level. My wife has a Mitsubishi Delica Xcede Turbo D. That says on the front of it. The special gear for four by four runners. Printed on the car.

• 3:40:09Speaker 07

  Lot of words.

• 3:40:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:40:11Speaker 07

  Yes, they're also your road signs. I will leave, sorry, but your road signs very, um, very long and very, very explanatory. And so like give way to the pedestrian in England, that's a triangle. Here is a triangle with an arrow with a person saying give way. Yeah, because if you don't spell it out, it's not gonna happen.

• 3:40:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, we are.

• 3:40:29Speaker 07

  I saw it the other day and it said, it said, if it's flooded, don't drive through here. We don't want you to drown, but like literally word for word. And you could just say warning flood.

• 3:40:39Speaker 01

  No.

• 3:40:39Matt Farah?

  No, you can't, no.

• 3:40:41Speaker 01

  Because here, what you, when you see a sign like that, that means that for decades, they had a sign that said flood. And then someone saw that, ignored it.

• 3:40:48Matt Farah?

  Hello, Chris and Ann.

• 3:40:49Speaker 01

  And we have to say, here's what that means. It doesn't just mean that there's a flood.

• 3:40:53Speaker 07

  But there's no language barriers in this country. Everyone speaks the same language.

• 3:40:57Speaker 01

  But the comprehension varies quite significantly. Uh, even with pictures, picture books are challenging to some of us.

• 3:41:03Speaker 07

  Right.

• 3:41:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:41:05Speaker 01

  Defund education, see what happens.

• 3:41:06Speaker 07

  Or it's a situation of someone got sued and they're like, oh, we need, we need to.

• 3:41:10Matt Farah?

  Most of our dumbest laws are written in the blood of our dumbest people.

• 3:41:15Speaker 01

  You're very litigious.

• 3:41:16Matt Farah?

  Yes, yeah.

• 3:41:17Speaker 07

  Litigious is a great word.

• 3:41:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, so like the way things work, like, like, like in Europe, they make things like safe and then educate people. Here, they just build shit however they want and they decide it's unsafe after enough people die and the company is sued out of existence.

• 3:41:35Speaker 01

  Zuckerman is outside going, exactly.

• 3:41:38Matt Farah?

  And I'm doing the suing.

• 3:41:41Speaker 01

  If we make it too safe, I can't buy anymore cars.

• 3:41:43Speaker 07

  But do you even need like a proper whole driving license? Because all the children are driving. I saw a 15-year-old in like a GMC the other day. I was like, that is not...

• 3:41:50Speaker 01

  Which state were you in?

• 3:41:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it depends on what state.

• 3:41:52Speaker 07

  Montana?

• 3:41:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, so you can get a provisional, yeah. For farm, it's for design for farm equipment. But it's not really like regulated or patrolled in any way.

• 3:42:00Speaker 01

  But also, some of those states have so few schools across so much, so many miles, that like a kid might have to drive themselves to school at age 15 because their parents can't because it's 100 miles away.

• 3:42:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:42:11Speaker 01

  So it's designed for that.

• 3:42:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:42:13Speaker 07

  Which I guess makes sense. It's just quite terrifying because also you can drive the ginormous trucks as well.

• 3:42:17Matt Farah?

  That's that too, yeah.

• 3:42:18Speaker 07

  If you're a literal infant.

• 3:42:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah, if, yeah, it's crazy. Not only that, like you don't need, have you seen, you know like the huge American-style RVs?

• 3:42:28Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:42:29Matt Farah?

  Most of those, you do not need any kind of license to drive.

• 3:42:32Speaker 01

  If it's privately owned.

• 3:42:33Speaker 07

  I was at the Mint 400 in Vegas.

• 3:42:35Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:42:35Speaker 07

  This is the start of the trip. And those trucks were just like, because it was also, obviously all the trophy trucks were there, but then everybody who likes trophy trucks were coming in all their trucks. So there was like the world's largest congregation of massive suspension and tires in Vegas. And that was the, I could see lots of 14-year-olds driving big old things.

• 3:42:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's wild. I think in by theory, if you have one of those licenses, you could go to other states too. And by definition, you could have a... I think once you're licensed, you're licensed. Yeah, 15 or 16-year-olds could end up in New York where it's at 18, you know, so... Just like if you're driving a car that's shadily registered in whatever state, you could drive it to fraud.

• 3:43:12Speaker 01

  Wait, you can't drive till 18 in New York?

• 3:43:13Matt Farah?

  In New York City, yeah. New York City, New York City license is different. Oh, wow. New York City license is different in New York State. But like most New York City kids like don't get licenses.

• 3:43:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:43:21Speaker 07

  Because there's no point because they just get it in the Uber.

• 3:43:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, there's nowhere to drive and on the subway. Subway is just so good. It's actually faster, yeah, so I can understand it. Um, I am going to kick you out now.

• 3:43:31Speaker 07

  Bye-bye.

• 3:43:32Matt Farah?

  Cycle it. It's so nice to meet you. Thank you for coming.

• 3:43:34Speaker 07

  Lovely to meet you.

• 3:43:35Speaker 01

  Nice to meet you, yeah. Before just seeing more stuff on Intercooler.

• 3:43:38Matt Farah?

  Next time you are in LA for a gig, make sure you look us up and come say hello. Sam will make the introduction.

• 3:43:42Speaker 07

  Look you up in the encyclopedia.

• 3:43:43Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 3:43:44Speaker 07

  Goodbye.

• 3:43:44Matt Farah?

  On the internets, where you find us.

• 3:43:46Speaker 07

  Lovely to meet you all.

• 3:43:48Matt Farah?

  Come see us.

• 3:43:49Speaker 07

  Enjoy your podcasting.

• 3:43:50Matt Farah?

  Thank you. We will. So much talking.

• 3:43:52Speaker 07

  Thank you, bye.

• 3:43:53Matt Farah?

  Bye, Todd. Bye. A pleasure. Lovely woman.

• 3:43:57Matt Farah?

  I don't know who she is. She got like real. Well, yeah, because Sarah introduced us, but maybe I shouldn't have said that. She got pretty big in the last year for the thing she said, which is being a person who bought an old Land Rover and learned how to road trip it and fix it and shit in basically real time and now has. Oh, no way. 500,000 Instagram followers. 500,000 Instagram followers and got a job writing for the intercooler. Oh, I actually, never mind. Okay. Yeah. That did not, that did not click for me. Okay.

• 3:44:24Speaker 01

  Well, the good thing is she's listening to the show right now.

• 3:44:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, 30 second delay. They start talking loud. Anyway, shout out to Louie Louie, the official, official sponsor of this. This is my friend's company and they make this delightful THC soda. I was on your. What? My station? When you walked out, I referenced this act as how organized you are. I need Larry Chen. If someone in the, I see him, he's right in the hall, I sense, Larry. Hey Larry, you wanna jump out? Get in. That's what we need. Larry Chen. Oh, the two of us? I'm so happy you're here. Larry Chen on the radio. Thank you for coming. I'm so sorry to keep you waiting. No, no, no. It's okay. Congratulations. People seem to be chilling out there. Yeah, no, this is, you, this is, it's so funny. I came in here.

• 3:45:11Matt Farah?

  Jacket, your jacket, it has a tag on it still? Yes, it does. Neck right? Yeah, you have, okay, cool. You know, it's new. Return that. I, first of all, congratulations. And then it's interesting, you've assembled this really who's who of Southern California car culture. It really is very, very haphazardly. It worked out. Yeah, but you do something that's far greater than most people. You're actually a great producer, like putting events together and your wife as well. Like your 40th was great because it was like so well planned out. I know, but you too, you are very organized behind the scenes and you texted me like a month and a half ago about this. I did get it going ahead of time. Yeah, same, same day. I have the list of everyone I texted. You and Larry were right, one after the other. It's awesome. So nice to see you.

• 3:45:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's good to see you. I saw that you were, I really wanted to talk to you about what I think was your visit to the Rainbow Chic. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, and you got to go out in that crazy weird Mustang thing. Yes, the Ram Mustang, which is, I think. Bye, Sam. Love you. Sorry, sorry. People coming and going. I think it's a Ram two.

• 3:46:17Speaker 05

  Two ton truck?

• 3:46:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:46:19Speaker 05

  With a, a, a 2015.

• 3:46:22Matt Farah?

  There, on the right side. Look at this fucking thing. No, there, on the right.

• 3:46:26Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:46:27Matt Farah?

  You've seen this.

• 3:46:27Speaker 05

  This is a. Yes, I, I, I rode in it. I could have driven it. I should have asked to drive it, but.

• 3:46:32Matt Farah?

  You know how it drives. It drives like a Ram, whatever. It's not about, yeah.

• 3:46:37Speaker 05

  You know, the thing is, the quality of the builds? Habibi. Like, so good.

• 3:46:42Matt Farah?

  Really?

• 3:46:43Speaker 05

  Really good.

• 3:46:44Matt Farah?

  It's fucking crazy looking.

• 3:46:46Speaker 05

  They have the money to spend on this stuff and thank goodness they spend it on car culture stuff, right?

• 3:46:51Matt Farah?

  And wait, is this the same dude who has the huge trucks? It is, right?

• 3:46:55Speaker 05

  Uh, no, so it's the same family.

• 3:46:58Matt Farah?

  It is, okay.

• 3:46:58Speaker 05

  But it is not the same person. So, the funny thing is, the, the other person, look, the engine bay is so big. I show up at the engine bay, look. It's so big that I can actually crawl into the engine bay and I did, look, look, see, that's me in the engine bay.

• 3:47:17Speaker 05

  So, uh, yeah, it is cool. This, this individual has so many incredible cars and, uh, they're doing a museum. Which, uh, is gonna be really cool, so it's open to the public. And the, the, the sheik that built this drives this.

• 3:47:34Matt Farah?

  But who, who built it?

• 3:47:36Speaker 05

  Um, so it's, um, the uncle of this individual that I met, Sheikh Khalifa, he's like a younger guy who drifts. Who, um, is into car culture, but the uncle likes to build these weird things. And then, so the uncle took this, just this year. To the Leewa Festival where they go up these crazy sand dunes. Yeah, so then, that's like the cruiser car, you know, top down.

• 3:48:03Matt Farah?

  Just like his shit to roll around the festival.

• 3:48:05Speaker 05

  Top down, in the Mustang, Ram Mustang. I, I, I feel, they call it the Ramus. I feel like it should have been called the Must Ram.

• 3:48:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they're.

• 3:48:16Matt Farah?

  We're just talking about the. Ramus is a, is a, I, I feel like I, they need to workshop that name a little more.

• 3:48:23Speaker 05

  It's pretty close to Ramstead, which was the James May mustard gin.

• 3:48:27Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:48:31Matt Farah?

  It's mustard backwards.

• 3:48:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:48:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Does he have, what else was in that garage? I saw a lot of trucks.

• 3:48:37Speaker 05

  Like the last ever, uh, air-cooled Volkswagen, ever.

• 3:48:41Matt Farah?

  Was it a bus?

• 3:48:42Speaker 05

  It, no, it was a Beetle. It made in Mexico. It was like a 2000.

• 3:48:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was up until the mid 2000s that they start like, yeah.

• 3:48:49Speaker 06

  But it wasn't even broken in, just delivery miles.

• 3:48:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:48:52Speaker 06

  Uh, everything wrapped in plastic.

• 3:48:55Matt Farah?

  Whoa.

• 3:48:56Speaker 06

  A lot of 70's series and older Land Cruisers, again, wrapped in plastic delivery miles. Just stuff like that, that you wouldn't be able to see.

• 3:49:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:49:07Speaker 06

  And I, I think it's interesting because, you know, a lot of people like to hate on this. I, I've been reporting a lot on this type of car culture. But I, I think to myself, like, what do you want me to do? Do you want me to just feature $500 builds, backyard builds, like, poor people builds? Or rich people buil- or like, what do you want me to do? Like, is it everything in between? You know, I, I, these individuals love these cars.

• 3:49:31Matt Farah?

  People that embrace variety, which I think you and I do, that's not always like how the audience sees it. They, they're like, they're always like, "I came to you 'cause I saw you do this thing. Now do more of that."

• 3:49:47Speaker 05

  I think we're a bit jaded in the sense of like, we see so much, but recognizing that we are the conduit of things that people don't get to see, like, that's kind of the part of it, right? And, like, that's crazy. Like, and, and I understand that's what people want to see, because that's aspirational.

• 3:50:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, and I get it. Look, their argument's like, "Oh, well, why can't they help the poor instead?" Or, I mean, what do you want me to do here, guys? I'm reporting on car culture.

• 3:50:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:50:14Speaker 06

  And the best, and some of the worst, and just interesting.

• 3:50:18Matt Farah?

  Doing those other things.

• 3:50:19Speaker 06

  Yeah, I, I'm trying to show everything.

• 3:50:22Matt Farah?

  Oh, no, Larry.

• 3:50:23Speaker 06

  That's the thing.

• 3:50:23Matt Farah?

  People getting mad because you showing the fucking rich Habibis crazy shit? Get out of here, dude, that thing is cool.

• 3:50:29Speaker 06

  It's super cool.

• 3:50:30Matt Farah?

  Unless that guy, and I don't, I don't know anything about the person behind it, but unless that person's doing war crimes or something, and I don't know about it, you know?

• 3:50:38Speaker 06

  So, look up this thing, uh, somebody else in their family, um, built the really narrow Jeep JK, and the really wide one. You've seen that, right?

• 3:50:47Matt Farah?

  The narrow one is hilarious.

• 3:50:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, they just love weird things that make you think, and it's like, their imagination...

• 3:50:54Matt Farah?

  Someone in the family is Rainbow Sheik, or no? The guy who has the giant power wagon that's the apartment?

• 3:51:01Speaker 06

  Yes, I went to that place too. I don't know what the connection is. I don't know the, my, yes.

• 3:51:09Speaker 05

  What are we doing?

• 3:51:10Matt Farah?

  The double width Wrangler.

• 3:51:12Speaker 01

  And then the narrow one is to the left, you see?

• 3:51:14Matt Farah?

  The narrow one is sick.

• 3:51:16Speaker 01

  The single seater?

• 3:51:17Matt Farah?

  The narrow one is sick.

• 3:51:19Speaker 01

  They're just limited by imagination.

• 3:51:21Matt Farah?

  It's art. It's like their form of art. It's their form of art. No, these guys would kill at Burning Man.

• 3:51:26Speaker 01

  Oh my god, that's so cool. Look how cool that is. It looks like a Caterham Jeep Wrangler. That's cool to us, but it's also super cool to them, and that's why they built it.

• 3:51:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's hilarious.

• 3:51:34Speaker 01

  You know, we could only dream of this stuff.

• 3:51:37Matt Farah?

  I fucking love that Jeep dude.

• 3:51:39Speaker 01

  I love this. Who was the famous artist, this was, I don't know, 10 years ago, but uh, he was known for like his posters and stuff, and then it was found out that he just conceives the ideas and then he has like a team that would make them.

• 3:51:50Matt Farah?

  Oh, Shepard Ferry.

• 3:51:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, like it's the same thing. So people would kinda get mad about that.

• 3:51:54Matt Farah?

  I have two of those in my hallway. Hold on, Jeff Koons does that too. Like, that's all artists at that level. A lot of, a lot of heavy, Dale Chihouli famously with the glass, you know, has a staff of people doing it. Yeah, it happens.

• 3:52:06Speaker 01

  The main thing is, I don't pretend to know anything about the hierarchy or where they stand in the royal family or whatever. I, they tried to explain a lot of that stuff to me, but it just went over my head. All I say is I just care about the fact that they spend their time and effort and money on cars that we love, and they're super humble, and they're so much fun to hang out with, so much fun to drift with, all of that. And, and that's what I love.

• 3:52:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:52:34Matt Farah?

  That's fucked. I can't get over that single seater Jeep. That's, that's rules. It's very cool.

• 3:52:39Speaker 01

  It's so cool, right? It looks dusty. It looks like it hasn't been driven in a while, but that is a shame. That's the thing is, if you look up Ramus, all of the most recent articles were from just my Instagram posts of me rediscovering this car, right? When it was first built.

• 3:52:57Matt Farah?

  I remember seeing it, like 70 years ago or something.

• 3:53:00Speaker 01

  Somebody posted some pictures of it, and then those got shared across the internet, and then it got put away.

• 3:53:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:53:05Speaker 01

  And then, so I just happened to be in the UAE for the F1 finals, and I just started hitting up my contacts. Like, hey, what's cool to shoot? What's cool to shoot? And then I met up with my buddy who's a sheik. His name is Sultan. He drifts all over the world. And I'm like, hey, can I, you know, shoot with your family or what's going on? He's like, hey, I'm at my cousin's place. Come by. And it's this. It's all of the cars in one place. All of them. It's insane.

• 3:53:34Matt Farah?

  That's awesome.

• 3:53:35Speaker 01

  It's so cool.

• 3:53:36Speaker 05

  I think especially, we were talking about YouTube earlier about how like it's, you know, some people are really being quite successful right now and some people aren't.

• 3:53:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:53:43Speaker 05

  It's, a lot of it comes down to the producing behind the scenes. I look at like, you know, people say,

• 3:53:51Speaker 05

  you know, there's so much stuff out there. How can I do something different? Well, I look at Hot Ones, right? Sean has done an amazing job of just taking interview show.

• 3:53:58Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 3:53:59Speaker 05

  But the real value that show is the research behind the scenes to ask questions. So I look at you, Larry, in the sense of like, yeah, these cars exist. It's, it's, yes, you present them. But it's also about kind of the research behind the scenes to connect the dots and be like, what is different from what everything else is out there? And the fact that other people are reposting these stories and redoing stories off of something you initially like kind of put together. That's kind of what's the thing now.

• 3:54:22Speaker 01

  Number one, what comes from this is just my being positive about this stuff, right? I'm not there to degrade them or talk trash about their build quality or anything like that.

• 3:54:35Matt Farah?

  They've got to be so insecure about people who are coming to make fun of them. It's like Low Rider guys. Low Rider guys don't want to fuck with you because they are worried you're either going to make fun of them or portray them as like gangsters.

• 3:54:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:54:48Matt Farah?

  And they're all like, you know, family people.

• 3:54:50Speaker 01

  But that, that's exactly why in the past three or four years, I've been able to open all these doors to these collections. And I'm the first one to uncover these collections because I just, I show like, look, look at my history. Look at my past. Look, I'm going to these places. I'm being very positive and spreading the love for car culture. I'm not like, oh, this guy, whatever, tax haven. You know, he's doing this shady stuff to get all these cars. No, it's not about that. It's about the cars. Well, because you also can't change that law or that thing. Like you'll have, you would have no influence on how a country is run or the money behind it. So like you can't really have an effect on it. So if you want to go talk about the cars and they're these crazy artistic creations,

• 3:55:32Speaker 01

  you can either go do that or not do it. And like, all right, you have one life. Do you want to go look at this amazing shit that literally like these are one of one? Because no one else has had this crazy idea.

• 3:55:41Speaker 05

  The reality is, is that yes, the Middle East has like a lot of that, but it's like Philippines, good example. You did that. Like there's a lot of examples where I think media in general has really come out of kind of the States and Europe, but getting to these foreign places that have those collections, those weird builds. I remember us way back in the day, looking at the Thai mini motorbike drag racing videos.

• 3:56:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:56:02Speaker 05

  Like, I didn't even know that was a, that was a thing. Just like.

• 3:56:05Matt Farah?

  I still want to do those fucking skiffs that have like super motors and.

• 3:56:13Matt Farah?

  Them shit seem all right.

• 3:56:17Speaker 05

  But I remember I did a, a bunch of stuff for Top Gear for big wheel racing, which is like the big, yeah. And it's like, I didn't even know this was a thing and it's all over Orlando now. And then I just was coming from Vegas this morning. I see like three, three flatbeds with those coming to LA. I was like, this is like, there's so much culture out there that we are just.

• 3:56:32Matt Farah?

  Three flatbeds with what coming to LA?

• 3:56:34Speaker 05

  Like the, the big, the big wheel racing trucks. You know what I'm talking about? The donks and the.

• 3:56:40Matt Farah?

  Oh, drag racing.

• 3:56:42Speaker 05

  Drag racing donks.

• 3:56:45Matt Farah?

  He says big wheel. I'm like.

• 3:56:47Speaker 01

  It's called, it's called donk racing.

• 3:56:48Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no, it's not. It's called big wheel racing.

• 3:56:50Matt Farah?

  Oh, because the donk is like a.

• 3:56:52Speaker 05

  Yes, you have to be very clear.

• 3:56:53Matt Farah?

  Cruiser, that ain't no race car.

• 3:56:55Speaker 01

  Oh, right. Cause they used to also drag race those and they were really fast.

• 3:56:59Matt Farah?

  I guess they got annoyed about that.

• 3:57:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:57:00Matt Farah?

  Annoyed about the, the naming, the nomenclature.

• 3:57:03Speaker 05

  But the hilarious part of that, like side story of that is like the tires.

• 3:57:07Matt Farah?

  And how they're basically cutting their own tires because no one makes tires.

• 3:57:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:57:11Matt Farah?

  That's terrible.

• 3:57:12Speaker 01

  You have 27s that are one inch tall.

• 3:57:14Matt Farah?

  No.

• 3:57:15Speaker 01

  Those things are no slouches.

• 3:57:17Matt Farah?

  No, they're like a thousand horsepower and more. Sneaky tires.

• 3:57:21Speaker 01

  They show up on Hoonigan and they get out.

• 3:57:23Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 3:57:24Speaker 01

  They like rent drag strips and they run like, what, like eights and tens all night?

• 3:57:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 3:57:29Speaker 01

  With convertibles?

• 3:57:32Matt Farah?

  It's nuts. Fucking.

• 3:57:34Speaker 01

  If it's a sanctioned event, you need a cage and a chute, but they're like, but we rented the track, so convertible.

• 3:57:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Convertible blunt.

• 3:57:43Speaker 01

  It's like production rules. There's times where we'd rent tracks and it's like, oh yeah, okay.

• 3:57:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, production rules. Oh, you're filming. You're filming. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Stand on the outside of that corner.

• 3:57:53Speaker 01

  If it's your track and no one else is there, they don't care what you do.

• 3:57:55Matt Farah?

  We just, I just, two days ago, had to, it was the lamest you have to wear a helmet ever. Oh. I follow all the rules. I don't put up a fuss at any of these events. Yeah, yeah. But the, the thing that we did with the car that mandated a helmet. Didn't justify it. Fucking laughable. I do appreciate that now they're doing like the strap HANS devices for some events. I do appreciate that. I suppose appreciate is the right word. Well, I mean, I mean like in certain events and certain like where. Having to wear them to host videos sucks ass. You look like an idiot wearing one of those things. I'm sorry, but you do. They're safe, but like, I'll, I'll take the risk to not look an idiot on camera right now. Thanks.

• 3:58:37Matt Farah?

  You know like that thing they say, give two, give a race car driver two cars. One is safe and one is fast. Give me two outfits. One is safe and one makes you not look like a loser. Are you not getting like extra time to do filming at these events anymore? Do they don't do that anymore? If, if it's the right PR person that knows and understands, yes, at the rest of them, it's, it's. Sorry. Yeah. Where else you been, Larry?

• 3:59:03Speaker 01

  I've been traveling a lot.

• 3:59:06Matt Farah?

  What else is new?

• 3:59:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, just the past couple of years, we've been really trying to push.

• 3:59:14Speaker 01

  The video side of things a lot and one of the things I wanted to talk about is my book. That's one of the reasons why I figured this would be a good time to do a book because I am so much more in front of camera now, right? So this is just a good, I wouldn't say stopping place, but like a good marker for 20 years of shooting. 20 years behind the camera and I went over 2 million pictures to whittle it down. What I thought was going to be 2,000 pictures, 100 per year, right? So 20 years of shooting, 100 per year, that was impossible. So we ended up with a little over 2,700 pictures.

• 3:59:58Matt Farah?

  It's awesome.

• 3:59:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, 2,700 pictures and like I put so much effort into this book, I'm so excited about it. We're doing a private launch next week, which I'm excited about. But we're doing a public launch in the summertime when we actually have physical copies.

• 4:00:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I absolutely, count me in on one of the limited edition.

• 4:00:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 4:00:19Matt Farah?

  Not free, no, I don't want it for free, I want to buy it.

• 4:00:21Speaker 01

  I appreciate that.

• 4:00:22Matt Farah?

  Just put my fucking name on one.

• 4:00:24Speaker 01

  I will.

• 4:00:24Matt Farah?

  And I want to buy it.

• 4:00:25Speaker 01

  So, yeah, so excited about it, I love round numbers, so 20 years, 400 pages, 11 by 14. The limited edition is a lot of fun, we just did the fun project with Canon where I printed a thousand different pictures. A thousand different pictures and each one I'm going to slip in the limited edition.

• 4:00:48Matt Farah?

  You get one original.

• 4:00:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, one original print.

• 4:00:51Matt Farah?

  That is awesome.

• 4:00:53Speaker 01

  It's nine by 13 and a half and it's something that I did myself on camera, you know, we documented the whole thing at my house with my printers, just to have a little personal touch.

• 4:01:04Matt Farah?

  That's cool.

• 4:01:04Speaker 01

  You know, something that, yeah, it just shows like, look how much effort I put into this thing. Yeah, but you wouldn't believe how hard it was for me to whittle down.

• 4:01:14Matt Farah?

  That's part of the curation. That's the value of the book. You know, that's like, people get to see what you valued the most and what you went through, so.

• 4:01:21Speaker 01

  And I was originally thinking I wasn't gonna do any writing, but Ryan at Carrara Media, who you have on this podcast, he pushed me pretty hard to put in a lot of interesting stories into the book. So I spent a lot of time writing just little tidbits and things that I remember from over the years. And, you know, just put a lot into it. I'm really proud of it. I'm really excited about it. So, right now, it's available for preorder. And there's a bunch of you in it, too.

• 4:01:49Matt Farah?

  Oh, my cars. Not me personally, my cars.

• 4:01:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, but also-

• 4:01:53Matt Farah?

  You have some great shots of the safari and the fox body.

• 4:01:56Speaker 01

  Film, film shots of the fox body, of the safari.

• 4:01:59Matt Farah?

  That made it?

• 4:02:00Speaker 01

  Yes, of the Lamborghini.

• 4:02:03Matt Farah?

  Oh, those, yeah. Oh, by the way, I forgot to tell you. You remember how when you shot the shots of the Lambo, you said I could use them for whatever I want? Yeah, well, one is being printed in Road and Track this.

• 4:02:15Speaker 01

  Perfect.

• 4:02:16Matt Farah?

  You get a credit. You have a credit.

• 4:02:18Speaker 01

  You could use anything that I shoot of you ever. Please use for whatever you want.

• 4:02:23Matt Farah?

  Your name is on it. You have a credit.

• 4:02:24Speaker 01

  I don't. I'm actually happy.

• 4:02:26Matt Farah?

  This image seems really crisp. Did you clear this?

• 4:02:31Speaker 01

  I'm very, very happy. I can't wait to have that issue. I love that so much.

• 4:02:36Matt Farah?

  Clearing it now.

• 4:02:37Speaker 01

  It's interesting because, like, that kind of stuff stands the test of time.

• 4:02:41Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:02:42Speaker 01

  You know, like, we did that. That can never be recreated ever again.

• 4:02:45Matt Farah?

  It can't. No, that one. Hi, Hannah. Hi, wife. What's happening? Oh, shit. Tag team. You know, I just had an idea. Before JF leaves- JF, come back! I think, because it's, we're knocking on the door at 2 o'clock. Four hours of radio, our eight-hour thing. I think at 2:15, we take a 10-minute intermission. I don't think a rotating sandwich thing. I'm gonna need to eat something. We'll take a 10-minute intermission, and then we'll come back and do the rest after that. Why did you get JF for that part? I just wanted him to tell everybody that we were doing that. Oh, I see.

• 4:03:22Matt Farah?

  Close the door. Okay, I wanted to come in-

• 4:03:25Speaker 07

  We're at this 50% mark. I want to see how everyone's doing so far.

• 4:03:29Matt Farah?

  Oh, it's like behind the bastards where Robert Evan has to check in with how everybody's feeling.

• 4:03:33Speaker 07

  Sure.

• 4:03:34Matt Farah?

  I feel pretty good about this particular four hours of radio we've just done.

• 4:03:38Speaker 07

  Anyone you regret having on?

• 4:03:40Speaker 01

  Anyone we regret? Well, you were kind of brash in your entrance, so not sure how this is going yet.

• 4:03:46Speaker 07

  I didn't know how I was supposed to do that.

• 4:03:47Speaker 01

  No, that's exactly how you do it.

• 4:03:48Matt Farah?

  Jay said something that might have to be cut.

• 4:03:51Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 4:03:52Speaker 07

  I'm a little concerned that my sweatshirt looks too much like Matt's sweatshirt.

• 4:03:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we look like we've chosen a matching outfit.

• 4:03:58Speaker 07

  No.

• 4:03:58Matt Farah?

  No.

• 4:03:58Speaker 01

  Yours sweatshirt's older than his, though.

• 4:04:00Speaker 07

  It's true.

• 4:04:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:04:01Speaker 07

  Very true.

• 4:04:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:04:03Speaker 07

  I'll tell you the personal highlights for me and I would say from the crowd.

• 4:04:07Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 4:04:08Speaker 07

  Is definitely Jay Leno eating a sandwich.

• 4:04:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah, on camera.

• 4:04:12Speaker 07

  Top notch.

• 4:04:12Speaker 01

  He has earned that right.

• 4:04:14Matt Farah?

  Out of fucks to give. Love it. Yeah.

• 4:04:16Speaker 01

  He's like, "What are you doing here?"

• 4:04:16Speaker 07

  That one over there that refuses to be a one.

• 4:04:21Speaker 01

  Well, he needs two tethers, that's why.

• 4:04:23Speaker 07

  He needs two tethers. I talked to Christian about going and getting the cordless glue gun and some fishing wire, but...

• 4:04:29Speaker 01

  I filmed him trying to fix it. It was a full minute that he's just in the background.

• 4:04:33Speaker 07

  That's what I love about him.

• 4:04:34Speaker 01

  Right, yeah.

• 4:04:34Speaker 07

  You know, he's very dedicated.

• 4:04:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:04:38Speaker 07

  What has been your highlight?

• 4:04:41Matt Farah?

  This is just, I think the fact that I haven't had to actually produce much. People have just had things to talk about and done a...

• 4:04:48Speaker 01

  We didn't need the spreadsheet. See?

• 4:04:50Matt Farah?

  Didn't need the spreadsheet.

• 4:04:51Speaker 07

  You know what? But the spreadsheet would have been really nice to have. I'm just saying.

• 4:04:55Speaker 01

  But hours is like the whole thing about, you think like a 12-hour race or a 24-hour race is so long.

• 4:05:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:05:02Speaker 01

  It goes by so fast.

• 4:05:03Matt Farah?

  Sometimes it does. I once did 24 hours LeMans coverage. I did a 24-hour livestream coverage. It was brutal and I made a lot of really bad decisions. The worst decision among them was to start drinking right away. I got drunk and hungover twice during that. And so, "We're not gonna touch alcohol until probably 4 o'clock." So that's rule number one. But besides that, it's been very nice. Thanks, Hen. Hannah's episode of the podcast from last week just crushed.

• 4:05:29Speaker 07

  Oh, I wanted to follow up on something.

• 4:05:30Matt Farah?

  Uh huh.

• 4:05:32Speaker 07

  Okay, these chairs, well I understand ergonomically, very good for you. All really made me want to do during that podcast was like lean back on the arms or like hook around.

• 4:05:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:05:42Speaker 07

  And I have to say that sitting, no.

• 4:05:46Matt Farah?

  The AC Slater is also good.

• 4:05:49Speaker 01

  This is the cool substitute teacher. He's gonna talk to us now about drugs.

• 4:05:52Matt Farah?

  Listen guys.

• 4:05:53Speaker 01

  And how math is more important.

• 4:05:55Speaker 07

  What's up fellow kids?

• 4:05:56Matt Farah?

  You know how sometimes people will see ya in a park? No.

• 4:06:01Speaker 07

  Anyway, I just want to state for the record that wearing horizontal stripes on the podcast and sitting back like this a lot was not flattering.

• 4:06:09Matt Farah?

  Lot of great look.

• 4:06:10Speaker 07

  Learned a lot on that podcast that day.

• 4:06:11Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 4:06:12Speaker 07

  I just wanted to know that.

• 4:06:13Matt Farah?

  It's a good note. Yeah, it's a good note. Thanks.

• 4:06:15Speaker 07

  But anyway, I'm really proud of you guys for hitting a thousand.

• 4:06:17Matt Farah?

  Thank you. Thanks for the cake.

• 4:06:19Speaker 07

  We had cake.

• 4:06:20Matt Farah?

  How is the cake? Did you try the cake?

• 4:06:22Speaker 07

  Yes. I had the first slice of cake to make sure others ate it.

• 4:06:26Matt Farah?

  No pressure.

• 4:06:26Speaker 01

  That's important because they think they're probably waiting.

• 4:06:29Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 4:06:29Speaker 01

  Because there's gonna be a ceremony or a candle or something.

• 4:06:31Matt Farah?

  That's very true.

• 4:06:32Speaker 07

  But enough of the cake has been eaten that it's starting to reach the writing and no one wants to cut into the writing, which is kind of amazing now. Also, our sandwich platter is being eaten, makes me very happy.

• 4:06:42Matt Farah?

  I'm very excited. Seeing Jay come in like not even being like, "I'll finish my sandwich first." Like, "Ah, now is fine." "Yeah, let's go." Jay rules.

• 4:06:52Speaker 01

  There was a casualness.

• 4:06:53Matt Farah?

  Jay rules and Zuckerman rules.

• 4:06:55Speaker 07

  Okay, so favorites.

• 4:06:59Matt Farah?

  I'm sorry, you coming in was supposed to be a highlight?

• 4:07:01Speaker 07

  No, but I mean...

• 4:07:02Matt Farah?

  You coming in and asking about the highlights is supposed to be a highlight?

• 4:07:04Speaker 07

  He's right here. She should be your favorite. He's right here.

• 4:07:07Matt Farah?

  By the time he's done, he will be a favorite. You see his book? Look, turn around. Look at his new book he just came out with. It's fucking awesome.

• 4:07:12Speaker 07

  It's very exciting. I also saw that Sarah is the first like that we see.

• 4:07:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:07:17Speaker 07

  And she's here.

• 4:07:18Matt Farah?

  And she's here.

• 4:07:19Speaker 07

  It's amazing.

• 4:07:19Matt Farah?

  Oh my god.

• 4:07:21Speaker 01

  Man, Farah also likes this post, Larry Chen. See?

• 4:07:25Matt Farah?

  I didn't even see this post. When was that posted? Oh, January 1st? You know where I was? I was driving for 12 hours across Detroit on January, across the Midwest.

• 4:07:35Speaker 01

  Turn notifications on.

• 4:07:37Matt Farah?

  And I have notifications off, yeah. But I am happy and I will buy one, more importantly.

• 4:07:42Speaker 01

  I appreciate it.

• 4:07:42Matt Farah?

  Than liking the Instagram post.

• 4:07:45Speaker 07

  How close are you to eating break?

• 4:07:46Matt Farah?

  Fifteen minutes.

• 4:07:47Speaker 07

  I'm very concerned about you guys.

• 4:07:48Speaker 01

  I got hungry all of a sudden.

• 4:07:49Matt Farah?

  Two fifteen. We're gonna take a break at two fifteen.

• 4:07:51Speaker 07

  I'm not wearing a watch.

• 4:07:51Matt Farah?

  We have to ask Larry the important questions first.

• 4:07:53Speaker 07

  Okay, good, you do that.

• 4:07:55Matt Farah?

  The important questions, there are three.

• 4:07:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:07:57Matt Farah?

  Okay, question number one.

• 4:08:00Matt Farah?

  We started this podcast in 2012. What was Larry Chen doing in 2012?

• 4:08:05Speaker 01

  I just became the Formula Drift official photographer.

• 4:08:08Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 4:08:10Speaker 01

  I was really just pushing hard to get the ball rolling to do this as a full-time gig.

• 4:08:18Speaker 01

  I think just a couple of years prior to that, I was, my goal was to break even. You know, it was to not make money elsewhere to put into photography.

• 4:08:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:08:31Speaker 01

  But to break even, and then the second goal, I think this was probably around 2009, was to make $10,000 for the year.

• 4:08:40Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 4:08:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, so then...

• 4:08:41Matt Farah?

  And did you achieve that goal?

• 4:08:42Speaker 01

  I did.

• 4:08:42Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 4:08:43Speaker 07

  Grosser than it.

• 4:08:45Speaker 01

  Like, $10,000 profit.

• 4:08:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:08:48Speaker 01

  After the end of the year.

• 4:08:48Speaker 07

  That's awesome.

• 4:08:49Speaker 01

  And then, you know, it just, luckily it snowballed from then.

• 4:08:54Speaker 01

  And I never looked back.

• 4:08:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:08:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:08:56Matt Farah?

  That's cool. That's a good one, okay. Question number two, best road trip you've ever taken, can be for work or not for work.

• 4:09:02Speaker 01

  Best road trip, that is a good one.

• 4:09:04Matt Farah?

  That's a hard one, because you are on a lot of road trips.

• 4:09:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. Hmm. I would say road tripping in Japan with my family is probably the best.

• 4:09:16Matt Farah?

  Oh, when you got your Skyline?

• 4:09:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, when I got my R34.

• 4:09:20Speaker 01

  The air conditioning went out.

• 4:09:22Matt Farah?

  In Japan, that can be fucking bad.

• 4:09:24Speaker 01

  It was horrible.

• 4:09:24Matt Farah?

  Japan is, Japan is basically Louisiana's climate.

• 4:09:27Speaker 01

  It was brutal. Luckily, I was just driving through Nagoya, and Liberty Walk is based out of Nagoya. I know they make body kits and they sell t-shirts and all that stuff, but they have a full shop.

• 4:09:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:09:39Speaker 01

  So then I called them on a Sunday.

• 4:09:41Speaker 05

  Like, hey, guys, I really need help. Can can I come by and and my coilover went out too.

• 4:09:48Matt Farah?

  Oh shit.

• 4:09:49Speaker 05

  Like, the oil leaked out completely to the point where it was just a spring.

• 4:09:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you had three.

• 4:09:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. Um, and mind you, this is buying a twenty five year old car, sight unseen.

• 4:09:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:09:59Speaker 05

  And then driving it off the lot and then, okay, let's drive halfway across Japan.

• 4:10:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, all things considered, it's not the worst things that could happen, but yeah.

• 4:10:07Speaker 05

  Exactly. So then stop by Liberty Walk City, Nagoya. Um, they pull it in, they have the full AC shop, air conditioning thing, recharge it. Um, they did not have extra R thirty four coilovers.

• 4:10:21Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 4:10:22Speaker 05

  So I limped my way all the way to Nara, to Garage Yoshida. Luckily, he had an extra set of H K S, like, used coilovers, and he swapped it for me in twenty minutes.

• 4:10:32Matt Farah?

  Nice.

• 4:10:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, so then I could continue driving. It was incredible.

• 4:10:36Matt Farah?

  That's a good one. Flying somewhere and buying the car and then immediately road tripping it is good.

• 4:10:41Speaker 05

  You understand, right? Like, when you drive German cars in Germany on the autobahn.

• 4:10:46Matt Farah?

  Different thing.

• 4:10:46Speaker 05

  Finally understand why this car is built the way it is.

• 4:10:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:10:50Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 4:10:50Speaker 05

  It you don't, it doesn't really shine here, really, in the States.

• 4:10:55Matt Farah?

  Unless you live in Nevada, but yes, I know what you mean.

• 4:10:58Speaker 05

  Sustained one forty, one hundred and fifty mile an hour.

• 4:11:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:11:02Speaker 05

  Yeah. You know, you you just, you just don't understand it. And then same thing for something like the R thirty four. You don't understand what it was built for until you drive it all around Japan.

• 4:11:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:11:14Speaker 05

  In the cities, uh, on the highways, all of that.

• 4:11:18Speaker 01

  Is there also an element, I've never been been to Japan, I've heard it's like the best place to visit in the world, but I've heard from so many different people that Japan, especially Tokyo, looks like it's twenty years in the future. So is is the experience of being in Japan, interacting with their infrastructure, how the society, et cetera, informs why they made that car and that car was so far ahead of its time?

• 4:11:41Speaker 05

  Um, I mean, there's, maybe there's a little bit of that, but it it's so interesting, like, in the city itself, like Tokyo, it, when you're driving on the highways and the streets, it's like a urban toge. Because it's so natural how they built the highways through where the high rises are and through where the neighborhoods have developed.

• 4:12:02Speaker 06

  There's no straight line.

• 4:12:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:12:04Speaker 06

  Everything is a corner, everything's banked and you know.

• 4:12:07Matt Farah?

  If you do it at a time when there's no traffic, it's actually quite good. Yeah, it's really good.

• 4:12:11Speaker 06

  It's so much fun.

• 4:12:12Matt Farah?

  It's like all the good driving happens at night in Tokyo. The traffic fucking blows.

• 4:12:17Speaker 06

  Exactly, and there's so many other car enthusiasts out there.

• 4:12:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:12:20Speaker 06

  And it's nonstop and they appreciate each other and I could street park my R thirty four. I could leave it at the grocery store. I could go to the movie theaters. I could go to Disneyland. I don't have to worry about it. You can't do that here in L.A. You just can't street park an R thirty four on the street, you know.

• 4:12:36Matt Farah?

  Why? It'll get jacked?

• 4:12:37Speaker 06

  Well, I have to worry about people backing into it.

• 4:12:41Matt Farah?

  It's like a value, oh yeah.

• 4:12:42Speaker 06

  It's a respect thing.

• 4:12:43Matt Farah?

  Oh, I would, I, I actually leave, I leave my shit parked all over the place and I find the doper the car, the more likely it is to be left alone.

• 4:12:50Speaker 06

  Really?

• 4:12:51Matt Farah?

  I left my three twenty eight Ferrari parked with the fucking keys in the ignition and the roof off for like six hours. Once and I, I was like, yeah, okay. Yeah, but I, but I know what you mean in general. Yeah, you do have to be a little more concerned. Yeah. But, cause what collector car insurance is for. Uh, last question. You get ten million dollars to buy cars. But you have to blow through all of it today.

• 4:13:16Speaker 06

  That's rough.

• 4:13:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:13:18Speaker 06

  That's a hard one. I feel like, um, the easy answer is I would probably spend half of it on all the legendary cars, all the drivers' cars that I would want to drive. Um, like Dodge Vipers, uh, all the JDM Legends, FD Arcs.

• 4:13:34Matt Farah?

  You just have a fleet of stuff.

• 4:13:36Speaker 06

  I would have a fleet of the drivers' cars that I could enjoy on the street and then the rest of the half, the other five. I would get full on race cars that I could actually race because racing is so expensive.

• 4:13:50Matt Farah?

  Yes, it is.

• 4:13:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, as I've found out pretty quickly.

• 4:13:53Speaker 01

  Is there any car that you would buy or that interests you that's like, let's call it an art piece basically? It's not a driver's car. It's not a race car. Something, you know, it could be old, could be new, whatever, just like expensive luxury, but you're like that.

• 4:14:05Speaker 06

  Two thousand GT.

• 4:14:07Matt Farah?

  Even you can't fit in one of them.

• 4:14:08Speaker 06

  No, I, I actually, I.

• 4:14:11Speaker 05

  It's close.

• 4:14:12Matt Farah?

  Was it you who texted me the photos?

• 4:14:14Speaker 05

  Uh, I don't know. I mean, I sat in.

• 4:14:17Matt Farah?

  Someone was, we talked about, we were talking the other day how if you Google image search Toyota 2000 GT, no photos of it show it next to other cars or humans. And so when you look at a photo of it, it looks like a, it's a sports car, whatever. But then if you put it next to literally anything else, you're like, holy shit. And someone sent me a photo from Toyota, a PR photo of it next to a B, of an 86, a current 86. And it's like shrunk by 40% compared to an 86. It's wild.

• 4:14:49Speaker 05

  It's, for me, it's mostly the legroom. Cause you're 5'11". I mean, you're not, you're pretty tall dude. I'm, my knees hit the dash.

• 4:14:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:14:57Speaker 05

  So if I just like spread my legs a little bit, then I can drive that car.

• 4:15:01Matt Farah?

  There, there, I can't even get close to getting in one of those things. I can't even get a leg in there. Yeah, there, there, I, I'm tempted to like, you know, in that art piece sort of thing, like some real brass era Pebble Beach, you know, like a Packard or something, some real Auga, you know.

• 4:15:18Speaker 07

  I would just get the horn.

• 4:15:19Matt Farah?

  Just the horn and put it on whatever.

• 4:15:21Speaker 07

  What was the car on Facebook Marketplace we saw this morning that someone had modified for tall people?

• 4:15:28Matt Farah?

  Oh, it was a Renault R5 Turbo 2 that someone had.

• 4:15:32Speaker 07

  That I would really like to own.

• 4:15:33Matt Farah?

  No, no, no, no. They, they just took out the stock seats and put in a set of like Recaros or something.

• 4:15:37Speaker 07

  But if you buy it on Facebook Marketplace, you'll get the original seats.

• 4:15:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah, a hundred and forty grand.

• 4:15:42Speaker 05

  I, I would be the one to spend a million dollars on that car and put it on some nice wheels and put some nice seats in it. I think that would be so cool to have like an outlaw 2000 GT. That would be cool. You'd be the only one and that would be rad.

• 4:15:56Matt Farah?

  Like the Liberty Walk Miura they've got going on over there? Is that the actual run or is it just like basically a model?

• 4:16:02Speaker 05

  So that was a rusty pile that they actually saved. So, uh, in essence, they didn't ruin a car. They improved on it.

• 4:16:09Matt Farah?

  I'm not offended by it. I don't care. I was just curious if it actually was a driver or not.

• 4:16:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, it, it, uh, it is a full car. It is a real Miura.

• 4:16:16Matt Farah?

  What happened, Zach?

• 4:16:17Speaker 05

  Nothing.

• 4:16:17Matt Farah?

  You think okay?

• 4:16:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 4:16:19Matt Farah?

  All right. I, I think, uh, 2:10, it's time to pee and get a sandwich. Uh, can we, uh, can we put up the, the hold screen?

• 4:16:28Speaker 01

  I made a 15-minute intermission screen.

• 4:16:29Matt Farah?

  15-minute intermission? Okay, so we'll be back at 2:25?

• 4:16:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:16:33Matt Farah?

  Look, everybody who's listening on the live stream right now, and we'll cut this out of the finished, uh, cut the intermission from the finished show. We're not gonna put 15 minutes of fucking intermission music. But, uh, we appreciate you all, particularly our patrons who really keep the show going. And if you're watching this on the main channel, on the live show right now, and you go, "I like the idea of this live," Patreon, our lowest tier at Patreon, there's only like three bucks a month.

• 4:16:57Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 4:16:58Matt Farah?

  You get the live stream, uh, for a couple dollars more, you get access to an ad-free version of the podcast, just for you, both the video and the audio version, totally without ads. Uh, you go up to that pro driver tier, you get the show ahead of time, meaning you get the show the day it's recorded, not just Tuesdays, Thursdays. Uh, you also get an extra podcast every month, and you also get everything I also just mentioned. And every, we love our patrons, they really keep this thing going, and, uh, and they also get exclusive, uh, access to our merch collabs and, and things like that. Um, so, we're gonna take a 15-minute lunch break, so we can have a sanguiche, and are you gonna stick around for a while, Larry?

• 4:17:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll stick around.

• 4:17:40Matt Farah?

  We'll get you another sesh, get you another loop.

• 4:17:41Speaker 01

  Can I just point out, like, I absolutely love listening to your podcasts at our shop. When we're doing busy car stuff.

• 4:17:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:17:49Speaker 01

  You know, like, changing rear ends, like, changing tires. When I'm on my tire machine, I have you guys blasted. It is the best, it's the best, because I'm doing car things while listening to car people.

• 4:18:00Matt Farah?

  Thank you.

• 4:18:01Speaker 01

  It's the best.

• 4:18:02Matt Farah?

  Thank you, Larry. That's wonderful. Uh, LarryChenPhoto, F-O-T-O, dot com, you can buy prints of all of Larry's stuff, and you should, 'cause they're sick. Uh, and the book is, uh, pre-order on your website?

• 4:18:13Speaker 01

  On, uh, car- CarraraBooks.

• 4:18:15Matt Farah?

  Oh. Carrara. C A R R A R A books dot com. And, oh, is it Larry Chen prints dot com?

• 4:18:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:18:23Matt Farah?

  Oh, sorry, I thought it was Larry Chen photo dot com. Does that redirect at least?

• 4:18:26Speaker 01

  No, well, Larry Chen photo is where you can have all my photos in high res for free.

• 4:18:32Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 4:18:33Speaker 01

  But.

• 4:18:34Matt Farah?

  If you want to print.

• 4:18:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, if you want to print, that's Larry Chen prints.

• 4:18:36Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool.

• 4:18:36Speaker 01

  Carrara Books is where you can preorder Life at Shutter Speed.

• 4:18:41Matt Farah?

  Okay, perfect. Go to that, go to Carrara Books, preorder it now, leave one limited edition for me, for the shop, please.

• 4:18:47Speaker 01

  I will, I will.

• 4:18:48Matt Farah?

  Okay, live people, we'll be back in 15 minutes, hold your horses. If you, if you think four hours of radio went by fast, you should try 15 minutes of lunch break after four hours. That went by fast.

• 4:19:02Speaker 01

  That went by really fast.

• 4:19:03Matt Farah?

  That was the fastest 15 minutes of my life.

• 4:19:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:19:06Matt Farah?

  Um, and we're back with. On a share.

• 4:19:09Speaker 07

  Oh, my God, that's me.

• 4:19:10Matt Farah?

  Of Car and Driver.

• 4:19:13Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 4:19:13Speaker 01

  Ooh, we have Car and Driver, Road and Track, and Motor Trend at the same table.

• 4:19:17Matt Farah?

  We have all three Hearst publications.

• 4:19:19Speaker 01

  No, Auto Week still exists. Zach, you're ready for Auto Week now.

• 4:19:24Matt Farah?

  I, uh, Zach's doing, is doing some really dangerous work for Road and Track. First, we made him fly the, the.

• 4:19:36Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:19:36Speaker 07

  I read that.

• 4:19:38Matt Farah?

  And then we, we just made him learn how to jump trucks and, and, uh, yeah, he does all the dangerous stuff.

• 4:19:44Speaker 01

  My X Games, X Games dreams have come true.

• 4:19:46Speaker 07

  Zach, you and I are on the, we're on the same, uh, we're in the same category, clearly on the list, which is, um, the person that the editor doesn't mind if they die.

• 4:19:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:19:57Speaker 07

  Yours are a little, yours are a little bit more.

• 4:19:59Matt Farah?

  Non-workers comp.

• 4:20:00Speaker 07

  Yours are a little more exciting. Well, I am on staff, but they keep, you know, I mean, like, I did that slugging story in DC where it was just like, yeah, go to Washington DC and get strangers in your car.

• 4:20:11Speaker 01

  Now, funny that you, you mentioned it like that, which may be accurate, because both of these jobs I've gotten have been suggested to be passed to me by one Matt Farah.

• 4:20:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:20:20Speaker 07

  Matt, have you been talking to my boss as well?

• 4:20:22Speaker 01

  He's like, you know who should do this.

• 4:20:24Matt Farah?

  The first one passed because I was too fat. The guy couldn't fly in the thing because I was too, too fat. Literal, that thing got a weight limit moment. The second one, uh.

• 4:20:35Speaker 01

  What's the weight limit?

• 4:20:36Matt Farah?

  200 pounds.

• 4:20:37Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 4:20:38Matt Farah?

  It wasn't even fucking close.

• 4:20:40Speaker 01

  You don't weigh 200 pounds? How much do you weigh?

• 4:20:44Speaker 03

  Four. Sixth grade. Go ahead.

• 4:20:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, it wasn't even close. And what's crazy is that story started with a literal in-person meeting with their CEO.

• 4:20:53Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 4:20:53Matt Farah?

  She like, looked at me. And was like, come fly our thing.

• 4:20:58Speaker 03

  She didn't think you were over 200?

• 4:21:00Matt Farah?

  I don't know. I have no idea.

• 4:21:02Speaker 03

  Don't take this the wrong way. You look like you're over 200 times.

• 4:21:05Speaker 07

  No, no, I think you have, I think you put off real slim energy.

• 4:21:09Matt Farah?

  Real fucking slim. Real, real, it was a good wardrobe day. I don't know, whatever, but, and the other one.

• 4:21:15Speaker 07

  Vertical stripes.

• 4:21:16Matt Farah?

  The other one, uh, yeah, just couldn't, couldn't do it. I thought Zach's fine, it's fine. I, uh, we had, we had a, like a chat, I think, I don't think it was the last time I talked to you, Alana, but like recently, um, about that insane, uh, Robo Cab thing. And then you wrote by far the best take on it of anybody afterwards.

• 4:21:35Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 4:21:35Matt Farah?

  Very, what was the name of the article? I forget the name of the column.

• 4:21:38Speaker 07

  Oh, I mean, I think it was just the, my column in, in, in Car and Driver, but I don't remember, I, I don't remember.

• 4:21:44Matt Farah?

  It didn't have a headline, but it was like, just like Alana's column in Car and Driver. It was fucking ace.

• 4:21:49Speaker 07

  Thank you. That is very nice and very meaningful. I was, to be completely honest, I was terrified to write anything, even mildly critical, um.

• 4:21:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:21:58Speaker 07

  But, uh, it went okay. Nobody, nobody said any.

• 4:22:01Matt Farah?

  Since the Twitter acquisition yesterday, in which he sold it to himself.

• 4:22:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it was worth 33 billion. Did it happen?

• 4:22:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, X, X is now property of XAI.

• 4:22:13Speaker 03

  All right, AXAI, sorry.

• 4:22:14Matt Farah?

  For exactly one billion more than the original price. So the shareholders get their money back and it's offload, it's like.

• 4:22:22Speaker 07

  That sounds legitimate.

• 4:22:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:22:24Speaker 07

  Sounds legitimate.

• 4:22:24Speaker 03

  I see no problem with that.

• 4:22:26Matt Farah?

  No, this should be, this should absolutely be legal.

• 4:22:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, look, if, you know, if you're gonna, if you're gonna bribe all those people to vote in Wisconsin, you gotta raise a billion quick, you know?

• 4:22:38Speaker 03

  If the share price is tanking and you need hard currency.

• 4:22:42Matt Farah?

  So, I was saying, when we first started, actually like before Johnny even came in the fucking door when Zach and I were just doing a few minutes, I was saying that I wrote like some discussion topics. Thinking that like we might need them, not even really thinking about the fact that like, we're all just like friends, we could bullshit for eight hours.

• 4:22:57Speaker 07

  Also, this is a room of people who are rarely at a loss for something to talk about.

• 4:23:03Matt Farah?

  But I put a lot of pressure on myself.

• 4:23:05Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 4:23:06Matt Farah?

  So I was...

• 4:23:06Speaker 07

  No, I appreciate how prepared you are. I think that it really shows what a professional you are.

• 4:23:10Matt Farah?

  So funny.

• 4:23:10Speaker 01

  Matt was worried that Johnny would run out of things to say.

• 4:23:12Matt Farah?

  This morning Hannah was stressing.

• 4:23:14Speaker 03

  You know, you got a problem, motherfucker?

• 4:23:17Speaker 01

  You've been talking a lot of shit today, dude.

• 4:23:18Speaker 03

  That's the second time you've come at me.

• 4:23:22Matt Farah?

  But like, I wrote like thirty things, like thought starters, and like the beginning ones are so like mundane, like, um, give me a good book recommendation.

• 4:23:31Speaker 07

  Oh, actually, Matt, I can do that because the column that I am working on right now is, and you'll have stuff for this, is, um, it's about books or cars in literature, like in fiction. Because I was thinking...

• 4:23:43Speaker 03

  Yellow Rolls Royce from Great Gatsby, that's all I got.

• 4:23:45Speaker 07

  Well, yeah, and that's actually, that time period, the twenties and thirties, very often has specific cars in it, which kind of makes sense when you think about how important cars were culturally and also how they were representing different class strata, and but then also...

• 4:24:00Matt Farah?

  That sounds totally foreign to today's time, by the way.

• 4:24:03Speaker 07

  People always crash and die in the cars, in all of those books. I just read an Evelyn Waugh one where it's got a great racing crash.

• 4:24:09Speaker 03

  Car crashing was new. It was exciting.

• 4:24:11Speaker 07

  Yeah, it was new. It was very exciting, yeah.

• 4:24:12Matt Farah?

  The late twenties is like when they were, they were calling cars like murder machines and shit. That's when the auto lobby started, pretty much, was to counteract the actual urbanists.

• 4:24:22Speaker 03

  I mean, nineteen oh three, the, there was two cars in Cleveland and they hit each other, and so they outlawed cars. In Ohio.

• 4:24:30Matt Farah?

  So, but wait, anyway, so that was like the beginning of my list of questions, which I wrote yesterday, outside by the pool with the cats. Okay. It was a nice day.

• 4:24:40Speaker 03

  The cats go outside?

• 4:24:41Matt Farah?

  Uh, my, you know, my backyard is fully walled in, so they can't get out.

• 4:24:46Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 4:24:47Matt Farah?

  And I let them in the backyard only when they're supervised by me.

• 4:24:50Speaker 03

  Got it, got it.

• 4:24:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah, not free, but like, man, do they love it.

• 4:24:52Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 4:24:53Matt Farah?

  So, anyway, the last few questions I wrote after reading the news this morning.

• 4:24:57Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:24:58Matt Farah?

  While drinking coffee. And my last question, rank Elon's lies from most destructive to least destructive.

• 4:25:06Speaker 03

  Right, right.

• 4:25:07Matt Farah?

  And then I have a list of about eight or nine lies.

• 4:25:10Speaker 03

  Right.

• 4:25:11Speaker 07

  Ooh, what are the lies? Yeah, I would like to hear the lies.

• 4:25:13Matt Farah?

  Um, FSD, being, you know, self-driving, uh, ba- hot battery swaps, remember the battery swaps?

• 4:25:20Speaker 03

  That's very undestructive, but yeah.

• 4:25:22Matt Farah?

  Um, well, I'm saying, rank from most to least.

• 4:25:24Speaker 07

  Hot battery swaps, by the way, absolutely sounds like something that you should not Google.

• 4:25:29Speaker 03

  It does.

• 4:25:29Matt Farah?

  Right, yikes. Um, the, uh, relieving traffic with tunnels. Hmm. Using a Cybertruck as an apocalypse vehicle in a reality. Hmm. Uh, humanoid robots being any kind of a thing. Hmm. And, quote, "waste and fraud."

• 4:25:49Speaker 03

  Waste and fraud is the most harmful lie.

• 4:25:51Matt Farah?

  I'll take the last part first, Bob.

• 4:25:53Speaker 03

  Waste and fraud is, um, you know, it's absolutely insane.

• 4:25:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:25:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. And the others are, I mean, you forgot, uh, the 2017 deposits on the roadster, which I think is actually, in a sense, is the most harmful, because he took $250,000.

• 4:26:08Matt Farah?

  Literal, literal outright theft.

• 4:26:11Speaker 03

  Like, that's eight years of no interest on two.

• 4:26:14Matt Farah?

  That's true.

• 4:26:15Speaker 03

  It's funny, I, I made a, when it first, the night it came out, I made a Cybertruck deposit, just because it was a hundred bucks, and I got an email from Tesla about, like, "Hey, configure your Cybertruck like two days ago," and I just finally was like, "Oh, cancel."

• 4:26:27Matt Farah?

  I forgot, yeah. Do you know what, the take rate, uh, based on the number that they had to recall?

• 4:26:34Speaker 03

  Oh, forty-six thousand, yeah.

• 4:26:36Matt Farah?

  It's two, it's two point four six percent.

• 4:26:39Speaker 03

  Right.

• 4:26:39Matt Farah?

  That's the fucking, that's literally, we convert t-shirts at a higher, at a higher rate.

• 4:26:46Speaker 07

  So, what I have learned as a business person is that if you are going to put out a really terrible product, you should make sure that it is all ready before people can learn that it's really terrible and then not actually buy it.

• 4:27:00Matt Farah?

  That too.

• 4:27:00Speaker 07

  Like, once you have their money, that's on them.

• 4:27:02Speaker 03

  Also, if you say it's gonna cost forty thousand and it costs a hundred and twenty, that's bad also.

• 4:27:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's all bad. I mean, it's pretty much all bad.

• 4:27:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:27:12Matt Farah?

  There's some things that are good that they could have put into a normal car.

• 4:27:15Speaker 03

  Uh huh.

• 4:27:16Matt Farah?

  But that would have not been...

• 4:27:17Speaker 03

  No, no, no. Hey, I got whiskey.

• 4:27:20Matt Farah?

  Let's drink. Tell me again about the whiskey.

• 4:27:22Speaker 03

  All right, um, we got two. We got, um, blah, uh, this one is...

• 4:27:26Speaker 07

  Do you need to take your glasses off?

• 4:27:27Speaker 03

  No, I've got it far away. This is the Singing Bush and this is the Invisible Swordsman.

• 4:27:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, oh yeah, they're named after the Three Amigos.

• 4:27:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, named after the Three Amigos.

• 4:27:36Matt Farah?

  Three Amigos.

• 4:27:36Speaker 03

  And this one is a hundred and thirty-six point three proof, so sixty-eight point one five percent alcohol. This one is a hundred and thirty-eight, sixty-nine percent point zero alcohol.

• 4:27:48Matt Farah?

  Perfect for two thirty-five PM.

• 4:27:51Speaker 03

  And, uh, we've been drinking since noon.

• 4:27:52Matt Farah?

  Let's go.

• 4:27:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, and, uh, here.

• 4:27:54Matt Farah?

  Oh, all right.

• 4:27:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, so that's that one.

• 4:27:56Matt Farah?

  Should they, I mean, they should...

• 4:27:58Speaker 03

  The order doesn't matter.

• 4:27:58Matt Farah?

  They shouldn't taste any different, right?

• 4:28:00Speaker 03

  It tastes very different.

• 4:28:01Matt Farah?

  They taste very different?

• 4:28:01Speaker 03

  I think so. Well, here, you know, I was gonna pull up, I have my tasting notes from November when I picked them up, if you're interested.

• 4:28:07Matt Farah?

  Very different, okay. Did you, have you had any of this yet?

• 4:28:09Speaker 07

  I had that one.

• 4:28:10Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 4:28:10Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 4:28:10Matt Farah?

  And, and did you, did you find it a delight?

• 4:28:13Speaker 07

  I did find it a delight. I think if I, uh, he's gonna be so mad. If I had it again, I would put an ice cube in it.

• 4:28:18Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 4:28:19Matt Farah?

  Alcohol by volume, sixty-nine percent.

• 4:28:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not... This is gasoline.

• 4:28:25Speaker 07

  That sounds like something that Musk would have set up.

• 4:28:27Speaker 03

  It's delicious. You're gonna get a little bit going over here.

• 4:28:30Matt Farah?

  It smells amazing. Wow, alright.

• 4:28:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 4:28:33Matt Farah?

  I said I wasn't gonna drink until four, and I got real close.

• 4:28:37Speaker 07

  It's so close. I mean, it is four o'clock in Colorado.

• 4:28:41Matt Farah?

  Let's get...

• 4:28:42Speaker 03

  Okay, so, the one Matt is drinking, which is, yeah, this is the Singing Bush.

• 4:28:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:28:49Speaker 03

  Okay, the nose, cashews, peanuts, raspberries, cherries, oak, and vanilla. Taste is peanut butter and cherry jelly frosting, sugary, frosted grainy, and the finish is heated, warm, fiery. So, yeah.

• 4:29:04Speaker 03

  So see if any of that holds up.

• 4:29:06Matt Farah?

  Oh shit, it tastes like a fireball. Like the candy, like fireball candy.

• 4:29:10Speaker 03

  Oh, okay, so like cinnamon?

• 4:29:11Matt Farah?

  Cinnamony to me. That's, I get, I get a lot, I get a lot of cinnamon.

• 4:29:15Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 4:29:15Matt Farah?

  Um, okay. I'll tell you what, for something with this kinda horsepower, it's really delicious. Normally, like, I mean, I respect the ones with the horsepower, but normally, I really like to drink at eighty to a hundred proof.

• 4:29:31Speaker 03

  This is a magic little batch of barrels. This is...

• 4:29:34Matt Farah?

  I probably, okay, look, I'm gonna, I'm just, I have a little water, I'm just gonna, just a, just that. That might have been a little too much.

• 4:29:43Speaker 03

  So this one that we're drinking, the Invisible Swordsman, uh, nose nougat, vanilla, faint honey, and then candy explosion, caramel changing from liquid to gas, changing shape, form. I was maybe a little drunk at that point. Uh, honey thread tethers, tethers everything together, exceptional. Finish is big and it spreads, so.

• 4:30:04Speaker 07

  It tastes like it has jalapeno in it.

• 4:30:06Matt Farah?

  Um, once I got a little, once I got a little splash of water in this guy.

• 4:30:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:30:10Matt Farah?

  Fabulous.

• 4:30:11Speaker 03

  Really?

• 4:30:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's a, it's, it's right, right fucking delicious, dude.

• 4:30:16Speaker 03

  Good.

• 4:30:17Matt Farah?

  Really nice. I just like, I, I can't handle that kinda horsepower normally.

• 4:30:22Speaker 01

  Fiery finish for sure.

• 4:30:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:30:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:30:24Matt Farah?

  Cinnamony.

• 4:30:25Speaker 01

  Uh, yes, definitely, definitely.

• 4:30:26Speaker 07

  I think I like that one better.

• 4:30:28Speaker 03

  You can like that one better, yeah. Yeah, that's fine.

• 4:30:31Matt Farah?

  Alright, well, we'll circle.

• 4:30:32Speaker 03

  I like them both.

• 4:30:32Speaker 07

  Well, yeah, we'll see, uh, we'll see what kind of flavor notes we're all experiencing after.

• 4:30:38Speaker 01

  Wait, can I try that one out? Just a little bit?

• 4:30:40Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 4:30:41Matt Farah?

  What are you driving that you like right now?

• 4:30:44Speaker 07

  Like new car wise?

• 4:30:45Matt Farah?

  Anything.

• 4:30:46Speaker 07

  Okay, I have a surprise. I mean, it is a surprise to me that I like it.

• 4:30:50Matt Farah?

  Ooh.

• 4:30:51Speaker 07

  Are you ready? You want to try and guess?

• 4:30:52Speaker 01

  Cybertruck. Mustang GT.

• 4:30:55Matt Farah?

  Surprise that you like it.

• 4:30:57Speaker 03

  It's not the Cybertruck?

• 4:30:58Speaker 01

  Ooh, Maybach.

• 4:31:00Speaker 03

  Everyone likes a Maybach.

• 4:31:02Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 4:31:02Speaker 07

  Not only you have a Maybach, but you're gonna take us all out in it.

• 4:31:05Matt Farah?

  I, I, I, I'm not, I don't know.

• 4:31:07Speaker 07

  It is the Charger EV.

• 4:31:09Matt Farah?

  You like it?

• 4:31:10Speaker 07

  Yeah, well, here's the thing.

• 4:31:12Matt Farah?

  You like it?

• 4:31:12Speaker 07

  I'm gonna ruin my, ruin my whole review on it, but as a muscle car, balls, sucks, fucking sucks. Dodge does not know how to market its own shit, it never has, they like really fucked up on the Viper, trying to market it as like some sort of European competitor when they should have been going like blue collar hot rod.

• 4:31:28Matt Farah?

  They've tried to lean in the Cobra for five minutes and then they failed.

• 4:31:31Speaker 07

  And when they changed it, when they changed back to blue collar hot rod for Viper, they were right. But now, they've made the opposite mistake, which is that this car is not a hot rod, it is not a muscle car, but it is a very fine GT Cruiser, I'm really enjoying it, I think it's gorgeous, it's comfortable, I'm getting crazy positive reaction from everybody who sees it, and, you know, it's like a Chrysler Imperial or something, like I'm down for it, I'm down for like bringing back a big coupe.

• 4:31:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:31:56Speaker 03

  I mean, that's the one thing I've heard consistently is that the ride quality at speed is unparalleled. I haven't been in one yet, but just like cruising on a freeway, it's like tops in segment.

• 4:32:06Matt Farah?

  Do you have like the fast one?

• 4:32:07Speaker 07

  Yeah, I have the fast one.

• 4:32:07Matt Farah?

  Which one's the fast, what's it called? Is it the?

• 4:32:09Speaker 07

  It's the Scat Pack.

• 4:32:10Matt Farah?

  Is it the fast one?

• 4:32:11Speaker 07

  And RT the other one?

• 4:32:12Speaker 01

  Early drives that I read about, the programming was a little odd. Have they fixed that a bit?

• 4:32:17Speaker 07

  Um.

• 4:32:17Speaker 01

  Like, sorry, throttle program and stuff like that?

• 4:32:19Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, I haven't had any problems with the one that I'm driving in terms of throttle programming.

• 4:32:23Speaker 01

  I do think it's a good looking coupe.

• 4:32:24Speaker 07

  Yeah, and, you know, I had.

• 4:32:26Speaker 03

  I hate the way it looks. I'm the only one.

• 4:32:27Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, I like it, I like it.

• 4:32:29Speaker 03

  I don't like it at all.

• 4:32:31Matt Farah?

  I don't love it, I don't love the interior, I think it looks weird. If you put like, I actually think if you put like some big ass rims on it, it might look better.

• 4:32:39Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 4:32:40Matt Farah?

  Um, I think it's one of those cars that with the concept wheels, it looked great, and then with the production wheels, it looks kind of puny.

• 4:32:48Speaker 03

  So here's the thing, people are gonna put big wheels on it.

• 4:32:52Matt Farah?

  I'm not worried about that, I'm sure they will.

• 4:32:54Speaker 07

  I just, I really like the weird like pass through hood, it's very concept, like 60's concept car, and, and fun. Fortunately enough, this morning, I parked it next to a Cybertruck, and I was like, wow, these two vehicles next to each other, you could like, teach an entire semester of automotive design, just based on these two cars together.

• 4:33:12Matt Farah?

  That's fair.

• 4:33:13Speaker 03

  And comparing them.

• 4:33:14Matt Farah?

  I think the game should be, you see, you have to write a semester of a class, based on seeing these two cars.

• 4:33:20Speaker 07

  You know I can do that.

• 4:33:21Matt Farah?

  What is the class called?

• 4:33:22Speaker 03

  Right. Wow. Right. America, the dark times.

• 4:33:28Speaker 07

  Well, I mean, I think that's...

• 4:33:30Speaker 03

  After the fall.

• 4:33:31Speaker 07

  Really, they're like, they are both very...

• 4:33:33Matt Farah?

  First Rome.

• 4:33:34Speaker 07

  They're very radical departures.

• 4:33:37Matt Farah?

  Late-stage capitalism.

• 4:33:38Speaker 07

  From what all the electric cars had looked like previously.

• 4:33:41Matt Farah?

  Billionaires.

• 4:33:42Speaker 07

  And one of them...

• 4:33:43Matt Farah?

  That's a true statement.

• 4:33:44Speaker 07

  One of them is heavily into negative utopia, and the other one is like, out of a sideme drawing, so I think it's really interesting.

• 4:33:51Speaker 03

  Billionaires, what went wrong?

• 4:33:53Matt Farah?

  Oh, look at that, that's actually a car and driver, here's a sedan-based concept.

• 4:34:00Speaker 03

  Well, that's coming.

• 4:34:01Matt Farah?

  Is that actually what it looks like? Is that coming? Is that legit?

• 4:34:05Speaker 03

  There is a four-door version of that, for sure, coming, yeah.

• 4:34:08Matt Farah?

  Can...

• 4:34:09Speaker 03

  And there are V8s are coming back.

• 4:34:10Matt Farah?

  I have to say, I think this styling works better as a sedan.

• 4:34:14Speaker 03

  Definitely.

• 4:34:15Speaker 07

  Well, because you're more used to a big, a big car being a sedan, but you know, I mean, you, you know me, they might not know me, but you know, I've had a lot of big two-doors.

• 4:34:24Matt Farah?

  These two, no.

• 4:34:25Speaker 07

  I've had a lot of big two-doors in my life, so to me, a large two-door, like, a door that's as long as this table, I'm down with that.

• 4:34:31Matt Farah?

  Look, I got no problem with that.

• 4:34:33Speaker 03

  And the Challenger looked great. It's just, I think this one doesn't look great.

• 4:34:36Matt Farah?

  I agree, I saw, I first saw this at the Radford School for an event, and it was parked next to an entire row of Hellcat Red Eyes, and I went, oh no. When I first saw it, it just looked so puny by comparison. Granted, that's got the flares and whatever, if you parked it next to a V6 Challenger, it probably was in line.

• 4:34:58Speaker 03

  The flares helped those cars a lot, too.

• 4:35:00Speaker 07

  Well, I surprised myself, because I was very ready to dislike it, you know, I mean, I was ready to take it personally.

• 4:35:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I gotta say...

• 4:35:09Speaker 03

  Why?

• 4:35:10Speaker 07

  Well, you know, I come from a background... Of muscle cars and Chrysler in particular, so when they make a mistake, I feel it like, you know, it's like a

• 4:35:19Speaker 03

  That's so weird to be attached to a brand.

• 4:35:21Matt Farah?

  Dude, can I tell you how I just, I just experienced some privilege? I was about to talk about how I didn't like big doors on coupes, like cars with smaller doors.

• 4:35:31Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 4:35:31Matt Farah?

  And the reason is because a lot of times I have to park in garages and in between other cars and stuff. And I don't like, you know, you get more angle on a shorter door.

• 4:35:41Speaker 07

  You're so slim, why would it matter?

• 4:35:43Matt Farah?

  Right, exactly.

• 4:35:44Speaker 03

  Under 200.

• 4:35:45Matt Farah?

  But then I was like, I guess it only matters if you're parking the car inside. Or like in between other important cars.

• 4:35:52Speaker 07

  I will admit that I have had to do, you know, there's a very particular, you hold the edge of the door with your hand as you're like sliding out between, I've been doing that a lot in this car. So it's not super convenient, but you know, could be worse, could be like a gullwing or something.

• 4:36:10Matt Farah?

  It's the same thing with BMWs. I like the four door, like the M3 versus the M4 because these big ass doors, I can't get enough angle when I open them.

• 4:36:18Speaker 03

  How funny.

• 4:36:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:36:20Speaker 03

  I know it's true, I just never thought about to like criticize a car for that.

• 4:36:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the other way, like the Taycan has like really small doors. And so

• 4:36:29Speaker 03

  And you bonk your head getting in.

• 4:36:30Matt Farah?

  You can, but I have my new move for the Taycan is when I open the door, I hook my right foot underneath the open door.

• 4:36:37Speaker 07

  I do that, yeah.

• 4:36:38Matt Farah?

  And I basically do kind of like a sit up out of that. That's gonna be good for me long term.

• 4:36:43Speaker 07

  It probably is. You're building ab muscles.

• 4:36:46Matt Farah?

  Anterior chain.

• 4:36:47Speaker 03

  My right side. Your right side's so good and your left side's so bad.

• 4:36:51Speaker 07

  You got like, you've got like a three pack.

• 4:36:53Matt Farah?

  Okay, well, I'm glad, I am glad to hear a positive review of the Charger EV. I have not heard so many good ones.

• 4:37:00Speaker 07

  Surprise myself.

• 4:37:01Speaker 03

  That's, that's good.

• 4:37:02Speaker 07

  I really do think that it's all about setting expectations and, you know, again, if I had come to it as this is the Hellcat Next Generation, I'd be like, fuck this.

• 4:37:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I mean, people seem to also forget, like, the Hellcat didn't show up immediately, like, they did a lot of Chargers and Challengers, and then there was a Hellcat.

• 4:37:22Matt Farah?

  No, but I had the first SRT Challenger press car, like, pre-pro.

• 4:37:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:37:27Matt Farah?

  In fact, we should go get JF, because he was fucking there.

• 4:37:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:37:30Matt Farah?

  And when we, when we got this thing, that car stopped people in the fucking street.

• 4:37:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:37:37Matt Farah?

  In 09, the SRT.

• 4:37:39Speaker 07

  Mm-hmm.

• 4:37:39Matt Farah?

  I got pulled over, straight up.

• 4:37:42Speaker 03

  Just to talk to a cop?

• 4:37:43Matt Farah?

  Ninety in a thirty, in the area in New York where I used to live. And the cop.

• 4:37:49Speaker 07

  It wasn't your fault, those cars just do that.

• 4:37:51Matt Farah?

  I let the cop, the cop, I was like, you wanna drive it? And he was like, and he did. I let him drive the car, and that ticket never fucking happened.

• 4:37:58Speaker 03

  I may have done that once or twice.

• 4:38:00Matt Farah?

  It was serious, yeah.

• 4:38:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:38:01Matt Farah?

  Pre-Dash camp.

• 4:38:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:38:04Matt Farah?

  That was definitely pre-Dash.

• 4:38:06Speaker 01

  He turns the body cam off.

• 4:38:07Speaker 03

  Yeah. You ever have a cop take his gun out and leave it in his car, because you said, yeah, you can't have a gun in here?

• 4:38:14Matt Farah?

  No.

• 4:38:14Speaker 03

  I've done that.

• 4:38:14Matt Farah?

  I, I, I let him.

• 4:38:15Speaker 01

  You took the cop for a ride, where you're like, hey, you have to leave your gun?

• 4:38:17Speaker 03

  He wanted to drive, and I'm like, you can't, you can't have a gun, it's gonna scratch the seat, like, don't, don't do that. And he just took his whole fucking belt off.

• 4:38:23Matt Farah?

  What was the car?

• 4:38:25Speaker 03

  I can't say, because there's a lot of video of this car.

• 4:38:29Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay.

• 4:38:30Speaker 03

  But it was, it was from Italy.

• 4:38:31Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 4:38:32Speaker 01

  Did you do this to get out of a ticket?

• 4:38:33Speaker 03

  Not in Italy.

• 4:38:34Speaker 01

  Or you were filming with the police officer?

• 4:38:35Speaker 07

  Were you just trying to make friends?

• 4:38:36Speaker 03

  This was actually filming with, but I have let cops drive cars to get out of tickets.

• 4:38:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:38:41Speaker 03

  Like, maybe, let's see, a GT-R, uh, M, uh, what was it called, Z4 M Coupe?

• 4:38:48Matt Farah?

  A Z4 M Coupe?

• 4:38:49Speaker 03

  Really wanted to drive it.

• 4:38:51Speaker 01

  You really wanted to drive it?

• 4:38:52Matt Farah?

  I didn't know that the M Coupe had that kinda juice.

• 4:38:55Speaker 03

  Back in, back in 06?

• 4:38:56Matt Farah?

  Pre-production Challenger, before they're on sale? Yeah, of course, but an M Coupe?

• 4:39:01Speaker 03

  Well, this is a 2009 GT-R, that was the one.

• 4:39:05Matt Farah?

  First GT-R, yeah.

• 4:39:07Speaker 07

  I have never had any police interactions.

• 4:39:10Matt Farah?

  Ever?

• 4:39:10Speaker 01

  When you're not driving fast enough.

• 4:39:12Speaker 07

  Never.

• 4:39:12Speaker 03

  You're not driving fast enough.

• 4:39:13Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, never.

• 4:39:15Speaker 03

  You should drive quicker.

• 4:39:15Matt Farah?

  All our cars have like nine liters of displacement and make 125 horsepower.

• 4:39:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:39:21Speaker 07

  That isn't...

• 4:39:22Speaker 01

  You're gonna take it for noise, but not for speed.

• 4:39:24Matt Farah?

  Wait, didn't you, didn't you buy like a fucking dump truck or something?

• 4:39:28Speaker 07

  Not recently.

• 4:39:30Matt Farah?

  No, you bought a huge, commercial-grade truck in the last six months. Didn't you? Or did I just make this up?

• 4:39:37Speaker 07

  You made that up. You're thinking of one of the other women that you know who collect trucks.

• 4:39:42Matt Farah?

  A different girl's dump truck.

• 4:39:43Speaker 07

  To be fair, we do have a commercial-grade dump truck.

• 4:39:46Matt Farah?

  You do?

• 4:39:47Speaker 07

  We do, but we didn't get it recently.

• 4:39:48Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 4:39:49Speaker 03

  It's an old dump truck.

• 4:39:50Speaker 07

  And, um, and then we have the two big ramp trucks.

• 4:39:53Matt Farah?

  I knew about those. I don't know why I thought you got it recently.

• 4:39:56Speaker 07

  We maybe did a...

• 4:39:57Matt Farah?

  Maybe Instagram just fucked you.

• 4:39:59Speaker 07

  Yeah, or, I mean, I think we did an update on one of the ramp trucks, so maybe that's what you saw.

• 4:40:03Matt Farah?

  I love a ramp truck.

• 4:40:04Speaker 03

  Ramp trucks are cool.

• 4:40:05Matt Farah?

  You don't need any kind of special license for a ramp truck, right? That's just a pickup truck with a cap on it, right?

• 4:40:10Speaker 07

  For, for the smaller ones, you don't. For the ones that we have, you would, except that magically, in the past, they have been registered as RVs, so...

• 4:40:19Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 4:40:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, then there's no rules.

• 4:40:20Speaker 07

  Yeah, there are no rules for RVs. You can, you can just do whatever you want.

• 4:40:25Speaker 03

  Biggest thing in the world.

• 4:40:26Matt Farah?

  We were just talking about that with Tati, because she was like, "They just let these young people drive whatever?" I was like, "That's not all."

• 4:40:30Speaker 01

  If it's a bus, you need a license, but you get an RV, the same exact size, same powertrain, they go, "Go for it, have a good time."

• 4:40:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, so fun.

• 4:40:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, hi.

• 4:40:37Speaker 05

  I didn't mean to interrupt.

• 4:40:38Matt Farah?

  Phil's gonna leave soon. Phil, are you leaving?

• 4:40:40Speaker 05

  Not without saying goodbye.

• 4:40:41Matt Farah?

  Thank you very much.

• 4:40:42Speaker 03

  Got a guest mic.

• 4:40:46Speaker 03

  Party mic.

• 4:40:46Speaker 07

  Say goodbye to everyone.

• 4:40:48Speaker 04

  We saw a bunch of empty glasses, figured we'd just jump in.

• 4:40:50Speaker 07

  Yeah, come on in, those are RVs.

• 4:40:51Speaker 03

  Get some booze.

• 4:40:52Speaker 01

  Get a beverage.

• 4:40:53Speaker 03

  We got the beverage.

• 4:40:54Matt Farah?

  Phil Morris and Jay Ryan.

• 4:40:56Speaker 07

  You can tell us if you, uh, taste, um, an explosion of sweetness.

• 4:41:01Speaker 04

  Was this, wait, Johnny, was this what you gave me earlier?

• 4:41:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:41:04Speaker 04

  Yes. Was the answer.

• 4:41:06Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:41:06Speaker 04

  And, uh, let me...

• 4:41:08Speaker 07

  A hint of honey?

• 4:41:09Speaker 04

  Really?

• 4:41:09Speaker 07

  Um, cherries, I think.

• 4:41:11Speaker 04

  I don't know if it was that nuanced with my...

• 4:41:13Matt Farah?

  Straight baby. It's really, it's really good. It's really good. It's just, uh... It's easy. Jay wants it. Ha, ho, smile. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So this comes from... Alright, should I rinse out my glass before reporing?

• 4:41:25Speaker 03

  You don't need to do that.

• 4:41:26Matt Farah?

  I can. I'll give it a little swirl skate.

• 4:41:29Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 4:41:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, that opens it up, doesn't it, the water?

• 4:41:31Matt Farah?

  I mean...

• 4:41:32Speaker 04

  The thing, is that what they say?

• 4:41:33Speaker 03

  Well, that was a tactic to like, how do you get people who don't like whiskey to drink it? Add water to it. But, but, yeah, yes, it opens it up.

• 4:41:41Matt Farah?

  No, I was just trying to clean, to clean my glass off, is all.

• 4:41:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:41:46Speaker 04

  Thank you, dude.

• 4:41:46Speaker 03

  Mmm.

• 4:41:47Speaker 04

  Thank you. Thank you for having me.

• 4:41:48Speaker 01

  Thanks for coming by.

• 4:41:49Speaker 03

  How do you sell here?

• 4:41:49Matt Farah?

  Thank you for coming, Phil. We appreciate you being here. This...

• 4:41:52Speaker 04

  This is a real delight. How's it going in here?

• 4:41:54Matt Farah?

  Cheers. It's going.

• 4:41:55Speaker 07

  It's pretty rough, actually. Yeah.

• 4:41:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, it feels like...

• 4:41:58Speaker 01

  A lot of it.

• 4:41:59Speaker 04

  It feels like a sorcery.

• 4:42:00Matt Farah?

  We have all the pillars. Uh, we have Motor Trend, Car and Driver, and Road and Track.

• 4:42:04Speaker 07

  So basically, it's all the print automotive magazines that hurt.

• 4:42:08Speaker 03

  Print's dead.

• 4:42:10Speaker 07

  Not, not over by us at Hurst.

• 4:42:13Speaker 03

  Print is dead. Remember in 2005, Matt? Print is dead.

• 4:42:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I pretty much only want to write for Print.

• 4:42:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, right?

• 4:42:18Matt Farah?

  It's a real delight.

• 4:42:19Speaker 03

  It is nice.

• 4:42:19Matt Farah?

  You know what else? Here's something I appreciate that I didn't appreciate before: fact checkers.

• 4:42:23Speaker 07

  Mmm.

• 4:42:24Matt Farah?

  I used to think they were annoying, and now I'm like...

• 4:42:26Speaker 07

  Bless a fact checker.

• 4:42:28Speaker 03

  That was my, um, one of my professors, a writing professor in college, said like, "The most important thing for you is to find a good editor."

• 4:42:35Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm.

• 4:42:36Speaker 03

  And that's true of all writers, but find a good editor.

• 4:42:39Matt Farah?

  Um, A.J. edits me most of the time, and he is A-OK.

• 4:42:44Speaker 04

  Does that objectify, I mean, give you an objective view of yourself, then?

• 4:42:49Matt Farah?

  No, I mean, I guess, I guess I'm a decent, well, 'cause they just... It's, I've never, ever gotten edited in a way where I went, "Ew, like, what did you do?" Except one time where they actually got a, they, they changed a correct fact to an incorrect one.

• 4:43:05Speaker 03

  I've had that. That's always fun.

• 4:43:06Matt Farah?

  That's a bad one, but I've never had someone like, structure my words and sentences worse than I, than I sent in, you know?

• 4:43:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:43:14Matt Farah?

  And like, I, I go long. They'll ask for 1,500 words, and I'll give them 1,800, and they'll get it to 1,500 of the best ones.

• 4:43:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:43:23Speaker 04

  Same with you guys, I guess?

• 4:43:24Speaker 03

  The only horrible edit I ever had, and I, exactly, that's what happened at this level, was when COVID happened, I wrote something about like, driving up Angeles Crest, before Good Vibes, actually, but just like, that's the only freedom left in COVID. And we had some dumbass, like, if we mentioned the word COVID, or the word pandemic, it might potentially, it was just, it might scare advertisers. No advertiser had said, hey, we're scared of COVID and pandemic, but they were just like, you gotta cut those words out. I'm like, it's a story about the only freedom left, because of the global COVID pandemic, is driving in the canyons. And they're like, but you can't say pandemic or COVID. So, after it published, I went to someone and said, hey, could you give me access to that file?

• 4:44:07Speaker 04

  Went back and changed it.

• 4:44:08Speaker 03

  And I just changed it all, yeah. But it got published without it for a week.

• 4:44:11Speaker 07

  I think what's nice about, like, when you have a good editor, they can look at what you've written and help, you know, they, you're kind of equally invested in every part of what you've written, it gets hard to know what the interesting part is. And a good editor can say, you know, actually, this bit that you've stuck here in the middle is amazing, and you should move it, move it up higher, and it should be where you start. Or they could say, oh, this thing that you clearly think everybody understands, like, normal people don't understand that, so you need to explain that a little more.

• 4:44:42Speaker 04

  So it does give you an outside perspective.

• 4:44:43Speaker 07

  Absolutely.

• 4:44:44Speaker 03

  It's like a director, it's like being an actor without a director. A director is part of the process. And, look, I was helping a young writer the other day, and I was giving them some, I thought, very good edits, and they were just, would not take them.

• 4:44:56Speaker 04

  Really?

• 4:44:57Speaker 03

  And I was like, I was like, you know, day one, when I started a motor trend, Angus McKenzie said to me, he said, nothing we write is sacrosanct.

• 4:45:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:45:04Speaker 03

  And, yeah. And it took me about three years to understand what he meant, but like, this person was just, they wouldn't hear it, and they, they just wouldn't take the edit. And I'm like, alright, I'm not gonna help you anymore.

• 4:45:15Speaker 04

  Well, you know, it is collaborative, right? This whole thing, so you mentioned directors, and, and right before I leave, because I'm gonna get out of here, but, and happy Sunday.

• 4:45:22Speaker 03

  Yeah. Later!

• 4:45:25Speaker 07

  It smells weird in here.

• 4:45:28Speaker 04

  But my, uh, my, one of my best directions I ever got was on Bosch Legacy.

• 4:45:33Speaker 03

  Oh, the best, yeah.

• 4:45:34Speaker 04

  And I'm doing this final scene, I'm getting tortured by Titus Welliver, who's a wonderful actor.

• 4:45:38Speaker 03

  He was.

• 4:45:38Speaker 04

  And I'm, you know, I'm getting tortured, I mean, getting waterboarded, so it's, you know, it's bad, it's not comfortable. The director goes, "Cut." He goes, "What are you playing here?" I tell him what I'm playing. He says to me, "Got it. Let's re-architect that."

• 4:45:51Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 4:45:51Speaker 04

  Right!

• 4:45:52Speaker 03

  Whoa.

• 4:45:53Speaker 04

  I had, I've been to those a long time. I had never heard those phrases. I'm like, "Okay, you got me. What's, what's up?" He goes, and he tells me, you know, "You have this power, don't give away your power," whatever it was. But it was just, he heard me, he heard what I was doing, like, read my stuff.

• 4:46:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:46:09Speaker 04

  He, he collated it, didn't deny it, didn't negate it, and then added to whatever choice I made by giving me more power than I came into the scene with.

• 4:46:19Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 4:46:19Speaker 04

  And when you, when I watch the scene now, it's, rather than me being tortured, I'm like, "What the fuck are you doing?" You know what I mean? I could end you with a phone call, kind of a thing.

• 4:46:26Speaker 03

  Right, right, right.

• 4:46:27Speaker 04

  And change the dynamic. But he didn't tell me how to act it.

• 4:46:30Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 4:46:30Speaker 04

  He didn't do it for me, he just suggested, in these words that were so perfect for my machine, to then be able to express it.

• 4:46:38Speaker 03

  Right.

• 4:46:38Speaker 04

  It's the same thing, yeah, it's cool.

• 4:46:40Speaker 03

  Man, speaking of Bosch, I got to go, I got to go, I got to go, the, it was, it turned, we didn't know, but it was the last scene of the last episode.

• 4:46:49Speaker 04

  You did, you did.

• 4:46:50Speaker 03

  And I got to stand there and watch Titus, like, rework it. He was just reworking the word "motherfucker" about thirty different ways, but... Oh, man, it was so cool.

• 4:46:59Speaker 04

  It's good, right?

• 4:47:00Speaker 03

  It's like, one of the sauces is made. He's the, Titus is, you know, he's, he's intense.

• 4:47:05Speaker 04

  He's a guy, yeah, and we just got along great, because I'm fairly intense when it comes to that work too, but, uh, yeah, I respect it a lot, you know?

• 4:47:12Speaker 07

  You guys all did a great job on that show.

• 4:47:14Speaker 04

  Oh, thank you. Appreciate that.

• 4:47:17Matt Farah?

  Um, yeah.

• 4:47:18Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 4:47:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:47:19Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 4:47:20Matt Farah?

  You chilling, you going? You chilling? I'm here. You chilling? I'm chilling out there. Okay. You get out of the way. Alright.

• 4:47:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:47:26Speaker 04

  I'm just gonna be here.

• 4:47:26Matt Farah?

  You chilling?

• 4:47:28Speaker 07

  You want this chair?

• 4:47:29Matt Farah?

  Completely reversed it for me.

• 4:47:31Speaker 04

  You're good.

• 4:47:33Matt Farah?

  If you're party Mike, you can stand, the camera will see you if you want to stand, but you also have four chairs. Good job on this second bottle. Yeah. I am very much. Second bottle. A fan of.

• 4:47:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, the Invisible Swordsman is sort of, I really like that one.

• 4:47:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:47:48Speaker 03

  The other one's real good, but Invisible Swordsman is like, that's, that's my flavor. Anything, anything that's kind of peanuts or peanut butter in bourbon is my jam. If you can ever get those flavors in there. Just, just, sometimes you get a bourbon, there's a little peanut, little peanut butter, and that to me is like, because they're all, they're all caramely and you get peanuts and caramel. Whoa, that's good.

• 4:48:10Speaker 01

  My friend brought me a peanut rum that's in there. I've never tried before. I've never tried before, but I like, I eat a lot of peanut butter, so it'll either be like a gimmick, which isn't good, or it might be nice.

• 4:48:19Speaker 07

  I do, I definitely do not like that peanut, that specifically peanut butter whiskey.

• 4:48:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:48:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:48:25Matt Farah?

  It's odd.

• 4:48:26Speaker 01

  That's a bad impression of peanuts.

• 4:48:29Speaker 04

  It doesn't represent peanuts in the best way possible.

• 4:48:30Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, no.

• 4:48:31Matt Farah?

  But I do love the breakfasty smell of a bourbon distillery. Oh. It's got a real.

• 4:48:37Speaker 01

  Hot cereal, baby.

• 4:48:37Matt Farah?

  Fucking, oh gosh, that's so good.

• 4:48:39Speaker 03

  Oh, this is good.

• 4:48:40Matt Farah?

  So good.

• 4:48:41Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 4:48:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah?

• 4:48:42Speaker 03

  What are we talking about?

• 4:48:43Matt Farah?

  Well, I can, I can send us down a road. I have yet to go to an actual one of my 30 conversation star, or I have 130 car you garbage questions also.

• 4:48:52Speaker 07

  I have, I have, I have a topic for you guys.

• 4:48:55Matt Farah?

  Do you?

• 4:48:55Speaker 07

  Um, that I feel like everybody would have a, an input on.

• 4:48:58Speaker 03

  I got nothing.

• 4:48:59Matt Farah?

  Now, listen, as the editor of a prestigious magazine, I defer to you.

• 4:49:02Speaker 07

  Well, yeah, features editor. Um.

• 4:49:04Matt Farah?

  And editor.

• 4:49:05Speaker 07

  I recently had my very first on-track car crash.

• 4:49:10Matt Farah?

  Whoa. Glad you're okay.

• 4:49:12Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 4:49:13Matt Farah?

  Where'd you crash?

• 4:49:15Speaker 07

  This is another one that you would never in a million years guess. So first of all.

• 4:49:18Matt Farah?

  Cybertruck.

• 4:49:19Speaker 07

  It was a, it was a drag strip crash, which is even weirder, even harder to have.

• 4:49:24Speaker 01

  Was it, uh, like a new car?

• 4:49:26Speaker 07

  No, it was one of my cars.

• 4:49:28Speaker 01

  Oh, this makes more sense.

• 4:49:29Speaker 04

  Which one?

• 4:49:29Speaker 01

  Ram truck, dump truck?

• 4:49:31Speaker 07

  The dump truck, yes. No, it was, uh, it was a 1969 CHP Dodge Polara.

• 4:49:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, you crashed that thing? Oh, no, the Polara that I saw my birthday? I love that thing. Oh.

• 4:49:42Speaker 07

  It's fine.

• 4:49:43Matt Farah?

  Oh. Okay, is it? Crashers don't crush those cars.

• 4:49:45Speaker 07

  It was fine, I, um, I broke a taillight.

• 4:49:47Matt Farah?

  Oh. How'd you crash that?

• 4:49:49Speaker 07

  Well.

• 4:49:49Matt Farah?

  Oh, in that case, I get to make fun of you forever.

• 4:49:51Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, you, you can. You a hundred percent can.

• 4:49:53Matt Farah?

  Crash going in a straight line.

• 4:49:54Speaker 07

  You can find a video of it. It's on the YouTube channel. Um.

• 4:49:56Matt Farah?

  What happened?

• 4:49:58Speaker 07

  Uh, it was at the, the finish line. Um, I, I must have tapped the brakes, which is a dumb thing to do, but I, I guess maybe it was like a muscle memory from driving a faster car. There was no reason to. The car, it was like, I was going maybe ninety.

• 4:50:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:50:11Speaker 07

  And, um, I tapped it, the brakes locked up and full, fully around and then back. And then the funniest part was that, um, I was like in, as it was happening, I was like, I am going to get stuck across the drag strip like that boat in the canal.

• 4:50:28Matt Farah?

  You're so wrong.

• 4:50:30Speaker 07

  It is such a big car. Like, it is such a big car.

• 4:50:33Matt Farah?

  The Suez Canal.

• 4:50:34Speaker 07

  Evergreen, evergreen, yeah. Like, that is, oh, like, there were two things I was thinking. One of them was, I do not want to see this happen, so I was like trying to turn it away, like, like, as long as I hit with the back, it didn't happen. And then the other thing.

• 4:50:47Matt Farah?

  Fucking was it perfectly ninety?

• 4:50:49Speaker 07

  I was just like, I'm just totally picturing it.

• 4:50:51Matt Farah?

  I'm just gonna say drum brakes and drag racing is a bad idea in general. Yeah, okay, wait, here, we have the video. We have the memento here. Here you go. Helmet, bench seat, two hands on the wheel.

• 4:51:02Speaker 07

  I mean, it's a fifteen second.

• 4:51:03Matt Farah?

  Oh, wow, that went, that came around rapid.

• 4:51:06Speaker 07

  It was fast.

• 4:51:06Matt Farah?

  Wow. Yo, you know what? You got so lucky. Yo. So lucky.

• 4:51:11Speaker 07

  Do you like how I, how like I'm like, uh, landed it, like a gymnast?

• 4:51:14Matt Farah?

  Honestly, I think, I, I would, I don't call that a crash. I call that a save. What would you drag racing?

• 4:51:20Speaker 07

  Oh, it's drag racing against an eight second Camaro. Thank you very much.

• 4:51:24Matt Farah?

  Okay, good thing it wasn't a sixteen second Camaro. It's the horn ring that I love.

• 4:51:28Speaker 07

  And everybody thought it was him who crashed, cause no one was like, that big barge crashed.

• 4:51:33Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, that happened so fast that I'm gonna call what you did a save and not a crash.

• 4:51:39Speaker 07

  Thank you, that is so kind of you.

• 4:51:40Matt Farah?

  Was this from OSA?

• 4:51:41Speaker 07

  Uh, that was at Bakersfield. Um.

• 4:51:44Matt Farah?

  That's from OSA, yeah.

• 4:51:45Speaker 07

  Uh, if you, if anyone wants to go and watch the whole video.

• 4:51:47Matt Farah?

  It's on the Challenge Her YouTube channel.

• 4:51:49Speaker 07

  Yes, there is a section, the, the emergency guys come, they ask me if I'm okay, and then I say, "I'm sad."

• 4:51:57Speaker 07

  And then I went to the pits and I cried for 20 minutes.

• 4:52:00Speaker 03

  Oh. About what?

• 4:52:02Speaker 07

  I was so embarrassed. Yeah.

• 4:52:03Speaker 03

  What?

• 4:52:04Speaker 07

  I was so embarrassed.

• 4:52:04Matt Farah?

  Crashing happened. No, I've never crashed on a track, but crashing happens.

• 4:52:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:52:09Matt Farah?

  No, it's okay.

• 4:52:10Speaker 07

  Yeah, never crashed on a track, huh?

• 4:52:12Matt Farah?

  So, not to my knowledge.

• 4:52:14Speaker 07

  You wrote a whole story about it.

• 4:52:15Speaker 04

  I crashed once on Laguna Seca.

• 4:52:17Matt Farah?

  No, I didn't. What, what, what crash?

• 4:52:18Speaker 03

  That's not a good place to crash.

• 4:52:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, on the...

• 4:52:20Matt Farah?

  I've never...

• 4:52:21Speaker 04

  On the course group.

• 4:52:22Matt Farah?

  Did you?

• 4:52:22Speaker 07

  The Aston?

• 4:52:22Matt Farah?

  I didn't crash it. I ran off the track, but I totally didn't crash it.

• 4:52:26Speaker 07

  Oh, okay.

• 4:52:27Speaker 03

  Tracks have runoff for a reason.

• 4:52:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:52:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, off, and off and a crash are not the same thing.

• 4:52:31Speaker 07

  Okay, all right, that's fair. Crash into something.

• 4:52:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Depends on the track.

• 4:52:34Speaker 03

  Unless you're at Willis Square on the track.

• 4:52:38Matt Farah?

  All, all offs are crashes, yes.

• 4:52:40Speaker 04

  All bourbon people, drinkers, drivers, journalists, it's an honor.

• 4:52:44Matt Farah?

  Are you off? Thank you for coming, Phil.

• 4:52:46Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 4:52:47Matt Farah?

  We really appreciate you.

• 4:52:48Speaker 07

  It was a pleasure.

• 4:52:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, leave it on the table. We're good.

• 4:52:51Speaker 04

  Literally dropping the mic right now.

• 4:52:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. Have a good afternoon, buddy. See you.

• 4:52:56Speaker 03

  See you.

• 4:52:57Matt Farah?

  See you next Sunday.

• 4:52:57Speaker 03

  Friday.

• 4:52:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Friday. I'm gonna be in...

• 4:53:01Speaker 03

  We're gonna be in Charlotte.

• 4:53:02Matt Farah?

  Charlotte.

• 4:53:03Speaker 03

  Oh, I'm actually not even gonna be there. What am I talking about?

• 4:53:05Matt Farah?

  Nice. 10 tenths motorsports. Oh, Marco is all, Marco is all, yo.

• 4:53:10Speaker 06

  Does he have any water or anything? No, we're good.

• 4:53:12Matt Farah?

  Uh, we're okay for the time being. Are you good?

• 4:53:14Speaker 07

  That would only, that would only dilute what we're doing in here. Right.

• 4:53:16Matt Farah?

  Come tag in, tag in for Johnny in a few minutes.

• 4:53:19Speaker 03

  We're gonna go smoke a cigar.

• 4:53:20Matt Farah?

  Oh, you're gonna go smoke a cigar?

• 4:53:21Speaker 03

  You know, a few.

• 4:53:23Matt Farah?

  Have fun. We got radio to do.

• 4:53:24Speaker 03

  After the radio.

• 4:53:26Speaker 07

  All right, so, but I do wanna know, now that I've shared this, I've been so vulnerable with you guys. What, like, what is an embarrassing car moment that you've had? Like, what is a moment where you briefly were like, why did, how did that happen? And am I good at this?

• 4:53:39Speaker 03

  I just got one. Uh, so, good friends I grew up with, the Israels. And, uh, so Mikey and Dave Israel were big car guys. And, uh, just started at Motor Trend. And, uh, um, I had my first print issue of Motor Trend Classic. And I brought it to Rusha Shawna Dinner. And I'm like, look at me, you know, and everyone's like, Johnny, like, you're doing great, you know? And I had, I had a Shelby, uh...

• 4:54:08Speaker 03

  Shelby America, let me preface by saying that. So not a Shelby, but a Shelby America. It was like, it was the supercharged V6 Shelby.

• 4:54:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, the Turlingwa.

• 4:54:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, 2010.

• 4:54:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the Turlingwa.

• 4:54:18Speaker 03

  Now, it was Friday night, it was, uh, it was a rush of Shana, but, uh, Friday afternoon, I was on the phone with Shelby America going like, "Yeah, your, your traction control software keeps like randomly turning on and off and everything's messed up and like, "Oh, don't worry about it, just turn the car off and on." Like, "Yeah, we're really having a hard time testing it." You know, "Oh, it, it works, you're doing something wrong." And we're like, "Oh, whatever." Anyways, I don't drink a drop of alcohol because I'm taking Mike and his fiancee at the time for a ride. We're gonna, we're gonna blast down the 101, you know, Woodland Hills. And as I'm getting on, I pull third gear and just back in, just gone, just gone. And it wasn't even a case of cold tires because we'd driven around for a while and, uh,

• 4:55:02Speaker 03

  in a straight line, crash, hit a, um, you know, a green light, red light, stop light thing.

• 4:55:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:55:07Speaker 03

  Uh, in the valley Friday night and like shattered the car into a 200-yard debris stream. People in the car with me.

• 4:55:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, no.

• 4:55:16Speaker 03

  And then there was an Islands Restaurant. It was right at the mall on exit. And the entire restaurant came out and they're on the fence staring at this Shelby.

• 4:55:24Speaker 07

  Did you, did you just like get out of the wreckage and go inside and get some fries?

• 4:55:28Speaker 03

  No, we got out, we got out. Yeah, everyone was fine.

• 4:55:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:55:31Speaker 03

  Um, and then when the, like, seven cops showed up and they all, they were convinced I was drunk and they just kept leaning in and like smelling me as I was talking. And I was trying to explain traction control to cop, you know, the whole thing.

• 4:55:42Matt Farah?

  And by the way, I don't own this car. And they're like, "What is this thing?"

• 4:55:46Speaker 03

  And then one of the, I caught one cop picking up anything that was branded Shelby. He was just walking around picking that up and pocketing the Shelby. And then I had to call Shelby America the next day and, you know.

• 4:55:57Speaker 01

  Tell them all the emblems are missing?

• 4:55:59Speaker 03

  No, but he, he's like, "Is it the kind of crash?"

• 4:56:01Speaker 07

  And on those Shelby's, there's about 14 different things that say Shelby.

• 4:56:05Speaker 03

  1400 different things. The entire engine compartment was just Shelby branded, oil caps, you know, it was all exploded. It was, the guy from Shelby America was like, "Is this the kind of thing where I can like bring a tire in a box truck down?" Or a tire in a flatbed? I'm like, "No, you need a shovel and a box truck."

• 4:56:21Speaker 07

  I know a lady who has a dump truck and maybe she'll lend it to us.

• 4:56:25Speaker 03

  No, the funny part was Carol was still alive at this point and still running Shelby America. And Matt Stone was still working at Motor Trend.

• 4:56:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:56:36Speaker 03

  And so Carol called Matt to be like, what the fuck?

• 4:56:41Speaker 03

  And I got so yelled at. No, Angus didn't. Angus was like, hey mate, these things happen, try and be more careful. Angus was cool, but Matt was like, he was just livid. It was, it was, it was a very, and I was convinced I was fired. I remember laying in bed with my wife that night being like, I'm done, that's the end of my career.

• 4:56:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 4:57:00Speaker 03

  But as we say in Motor Trend, you don't get your first raise till you've crashed your third car, so.

• 4:57:07Speaker 03

  Cut that part. No way, that's fine.

• 4:57:09Speaker 07

  None of the young people watching this who work at Motor Trend should listen to that.

• 4:57:12Speaker 03

  Oh, they all got laid off, don't worry.

• 4:57:13Matt Farah?

  I crashed an R8 in England on a wet racetrack and that was pretty bad. And it wasn't, it didn't look that bad. I drove it back to the pits, but ultimately the car was totaled. And that was not a fun phone call to make.

• 4:57:27Speaker 07

  The feeling of it all is so wild. Like you're just, the second that it goes bad, there's this frozen time moment where you're just like, rewind, rewind. Like it's like when the coyote runs off the cliff and then he's like pedaling for a second before he drops down.

• 4:57:46Matt Farah?

  Hundred percent. And this was a wet, like, this was literally one of those one tire gets into the wet grass and just sucks.

• 4:57:54Speaker 07

  There's a famous Brock Yates column about that.

• 4:57:56Matt Farah?

  It was fuck, really? I'll have to go find that.

• 4:57:58Speaker 07

  Yeah, he was driving a Camaro.

• 4:57:59Speaker 03

  Wet grass is a commie.

• 4:58:02Matt Farah?

  Oh, different column. Really sucks them in.

• 4:58:05Speaker 07

  It's green, but it should be red.

• 4:58:07Matt Farah?

  That devil politics. No, it's, you know, but because it was like, it was like a 25 mile an hour, you know, 10 second joyride to the tire wall, just going, oh man, this is gonna be some explaining.

• 4:58:26Speaker 03

  But you know, the second one is, it's like murdering someone. The second one's a lot easier.

• 4:58:30Speaker 07

  That's what I hear.

• 4:58:33Matt Farah?

  You know, you just keep doing it. It becomes normal.

• 4:58:36Speaker 03

  I only crash Fords, so it's fine. I've only ever crashed Fords. Literally, in my life, I've got two car accidents in my life, both were Fords.

• 4:58:44Matt Farah?

  I've only ever crashed Fords is a really funny...

• 4:58:47Speaker 01

  Sounds on Road Dead because of me.

• 4:58:49Matt Farah?

  That's the car writer version of only murders in the building. Yes.

• 4:58:53Speaker 07

  It also, it also sounds like, you know those t-shirts that you kind of just like, they're like, computer generated or whatever, it'd be like, my grandfather loves me and 44 magnums or something like that. You know, it'd be like, just like, I only, I only crash Fords.

• 4:59:07Speaker 03

  The second one was good because it was, it was a Raptor and it fell on its door. And we were filming a video, so what, we had a second Raptor with us, so what do we do? We, we literally tow rope it back onto its wheels. Anthony, our director, jumps in with a knife, cuts the airbags out, keep filming. All the brake fluid was out of the car, so I had no brakes.

• 4:59:26Speaker 07

  It ought to just be like a Raptor sales technique, like they ought to have like a buy one, get one, half off for when you crash the first one.

• 4:59:33Speaker 03

  I mean, well, hang on real quick, then Ken Block totaled the next one the next day. We did a video where we returned Ford two totaled Raptors.

• 4:59:43Matt Farah?

  I, I feel like I don't really understand, even after 20 years of fucking doing this gig, what is the right amount when reviewing an off-road vehicle? Like, what, what is the right amount for me to break it? Like, because if you don't break it at all, the audience doesn't, they're, they're like, you don't even deserve to be here. But if you break it too much, you know.

• 5:00:09Speaker 03

  I think that's the answer.

• 5:00:13Matt Farah?

  Is your answer, there is no too much?

• 5:00:14Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 5:00:16Matt Farah?

  Just have it extra.

• 5:00:17Speaker 03

  I, I, um, we took a, um, Lexus LX570, uh, rock crawling.

• 5:00:25Speaker 03

  And we literally ripped all of the cladding off, you know, it's got all that hanging down stuff. Every piece of that was ripped off. And we returned it. And like initially, some of the lower level Lexus people were very upset. And then Mo Durant was like, dude, he's like, we haven't had a marketing budget for that car ever. He's like, it's gonna cost us 25,000 to repair. It's the best money we've ever spent. People are gonna see this thing off-road, like, we might get a new customer. It's great, it's fine. So that's the right amount to rip all the cladding off.

• 5:00:58Speaker 07

  It depends who your audience is, because if it's like, real off-roaders, like, like people who camp, they actually don't go hard off-road, because they're like, well, there's actually a very sensible line that you could take here that doesn't damage your vehicle, and that's what you should do. But if your audience is people who like to watch off-roading, then you need to go hard.

• 5:01:20Speaker 03

  But the same with off-roading, as you know, is-

• 5:01:22Matt Farah?

  Same with racetracks and drifting.

• 5:01:24Speaker 07

  Oh my god, if it looks cool, it's probably not fast, and probably not smart.

• 5:01:28Speaker 03

  Have you ever read the comments in a Chris Harris video? Like, Chris Harris is great at making videos, right? Okay, but if you do, for five seconds, there are people who go into current Chris Harris videos and complain that sliding isn't the fastest way around the track. It's like, he's been doing this for like 30 years, the same thing.

• 5:01:49Speaker 07

  Do they also go to Formula Drift events, and they go like, yeah, they're just- They could go faster if they didn't do all that smoke.

• 5:01:56Speaker 03

  But as you know with off-road, there's no way to translate what you're doing.

• 5:02:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's impossible.

• 5:02:01Speaker 03

  No matter what you're doing, like, like, literally, okay, I'm gonna park the truck, get out, and I won't be able to stand, because it's so steep, I'm gonna fall down the hill. They're like, I can do that in my 86 Buick Regal, my grandmother's car.

• 5:02:11Speaker 07

  And the thing is, you can, that's what's annoying about off-roading, is you can be, you can be like, 40 miles out into the desert in something hardcore, wearing like a fucking helmet, and some dude in like a Nissan, like, is gonna come toodling around, super slow, sending sparks off the exhaust, which is hanging down, but they-

• 5:02:31Speaker 03

  Dude's still got 60 months on the finance, I don't know what he's doing in that altima.

• 5:02:36Matt Farah?

  The guy in the Crown Vic full of bicycles that went up like Lions Back in Moab.

• 5:02:40Speaker 01

  Like all these off roaders are there and this guy shows up like a legit stock like Crown Vic that has bicycles hanging out of an open trunk and he just goes squeak, squeak, squeak.

• 5:02:47Speaker 07

  Yeah, you just gotta go slow and you can pretty much do anything.

• 5:02:50Matt Farah?

  A hundred miles from anything on, in the All Cars One in the back country trail in Washington. And then we just came upon like the dudes driving like Jettas that were like foraging.

• 5:03:04Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, they had like E350 vans and stuff that they were just out collecting mushrooms.

• 5:03:09Speaker 03

  I was on rower flat to the top of the really crazy section before the trees. And this dude in a, it was an outback wilderness was, he was just full speed, like was not lifting at all. And like destroying the car, but he got up.

• 5:03:27Matt Farah?

  Sounds, that's a press car, right?

• 5:03:29Speaker 03

  No, it was a guy and his girlfriend. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm like dude, like good driving in Turo. And no, he ripped the, the front was gone, but he didn't care.

• 5:03:39Speaker 07

  Those are the kind of people who get rescued by like Matt's Offroad Rescue. And you're just like, wow, you just kept going. That must've been making a lot of noise.

• 5:03:49Speaker 07

  But you know what, I did, I did Baja, I did the Nora 1000 one year in a like lifted 57 Chevy. And we like, you know, we broke, but we got towed out of one section by like a guy in a stock Subaru. And it was pretty fucking humiliating for us. And he took photos. He was like, I'm taking photos of this.

• 5:04:08Speaker 03

  Subarus are weirdly, I remember years ago, God, this is like in the fuck, early 90s, like when, yeah, well, the Ram 1500 first came out, the cool looking one, right? And my friend had a lifted one and we went to Black Lake up on the California Nevada border. And like we rock crawled in and we're feeling all manly and there's like lifted FJ40s with like diamond plating. And we're like, our pickup truck's so cool. We get there, there's a fucking red Subaru Impreza wagon and a family at a picnic table. And I'm like, how'd you get here? They're like, oh, we came in that path. I go, that path? We took nine hours to like, you know, sight.

• 5:04:45Speaker 07

  There was nothing more humbling.

• 5:04:47Speaker 03

  It was, it was literally like, like, you know, two parents and two kids like red lightly. Yeah, it's fucking crazy, man.

• 5:04:55Speaker 03

  I do love off-roading, though.

• 5:04:57Matt Farah?

  It's hard. I love doing it, but it's just like, you can't make it look good on video.

• 5:05:00Speaker 03

  There's no way. Again, it's just every, no matter what you do, like, the comments. I've even done that in videos, where I'll like, with that same Lexus one, we filled up the back with like beach balls, and I opened the tailgate to show like how quickly they'd fall out, and everyone was like, "Dude, Buick, it's legal to do that angle down."

• 5:05:22Speaker 01

  The thing, off-roading remains like, that's a fun hobby for me for cars, but for filming, it just never works, so I can just, we can just leave it out.

• 5:05:28Matt Farah?

  I mean, it was pretty fun with the Ranger Raptor at King of the Hammers.

• 5:05:31Speaker 07

  It looks good.

• 5:05:32Matt Farah?

  Fast off-roading in Baja.

• 5:05:34Speaker 07

  Silty stuff, silty stuff is good.

• 5:05:36Matt Farah?

  Different thing, yeah. That's because, same reason. Drink, you get sliding, you have sand, you have action.

• 5:05:41Speaker 03

  That's why I think it's like, if you do like the Rubicon, anyone who knows anything, they know how difficult that is, and you're like, I'm doing the Rubi. It's like driving the Nürburgring. Like, okay, that means something.

• 5:05:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:05:54Speaker 03

  But, not doing that for video.

• 5:05:57Speaker 01

  I would do that just for fun, but yeah, we wouldn't film the whole thing.

• 5:06:00Matt Farah?

  I want to do another back to the discovery.

• 5:06:02Speaker 07

  Have you guys heard of this thing? It's called, it's called, like, living a life off of video?

• 5:06:06Speaker 01

  I knew you.

• 5:06:08Speaker 07

  I mean, I haven't, you know, attempted it myself, but I have heard that you can actually do things that you love to do.

• 5:06:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I know.

• 5:06:13Speaker 07

  And there doesn't even need to be an audience, and, and there are no commenters.

• 5:06:17Speaker 03

  Where, where, where is this? What, what app?

• 5:06:19Speaker 07

  Well, you have to do it in this place called Real Life.

• 5:06:21Speaker 03

  Where's that?

• 5:06:22Speaker 01

  Like, reallife.io?

• 5:06:23Speaker 03

  Does X own that?

• 5:06:26Matt Farah?

  It's hard sometimes when you do car, you know, when you do cars all the time.

• 5:06:31Speaker 07

  I know.

• 5:06:31Matt Farah?

  To do a car, a car-related vacation.

• 5:06:34Speaker 07

  Yeah, I know. And then you use-

• 5:06:35Speaker 03

  I'm doing one.

• 5:06:36Speaker 07

  You do it and then you start?

• 5:06:38Matt Farah?

  We still do that.

• 5:06:38Speaker 03

  I'm gonna do one.

• 5:06:39Speaker 07

  What are you gonna do?

• 5:06:40Speaker 03

  Um-

• 5:06:41Speaker 07

  Ha, I'm making you turn it into content.

• 5:06:43Speaker 03

  I'm turning 50, and, uh, my wife-

• 5:06:47Speaker 03

  Got me VIP tickets to the World's Strongest Man Finals in Sacramento.

• 5:06:51Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 5:06:52Speaker 03

  And we're gonna, yeah, thank you. And we're gonna do a road trip and we're gonna spend like a night in Marin, a night in Sonoma, a night in Mendo, then go to Sacramento and then drive home.

• 5:07:02Matt Farah?

  Sick.

• 5:07:02Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 5:07:03Matt Farah?

  That'll be fun.

• 5:07:03Speaker 03

  We're taking a 770 horsepower Panamera.

• 5:07:06Matt Farah?

  Oh, turbo SE hybrid?

• 5:07:07Speaker 07

  Are you gonna make any strong men pull it?

• 5:07:09Matt Farah?

  That's a real delightful car.

• 5:07:10Speaker 03

  No, but-

• 5:07:11Speaker 07

  Because it won't go into neutral when it's hot on?

• 5:07:14Speaker 03

  I don't know. No, uh, no, but I, there is a strong man event in Santa Monica in late June that I might actually be involved with. It's Martin Lees is putting on the Santa Monica Classic and I, uh, my friend Kale knows him and he's like, you wanna like help out? And I'm like, I would love to like, I don't know, move a sandbag or whatever.

• 5:07:31Matt Farah?

  I'd love to fill chalk bags.

• 5:07:33Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:07:34Matt Farah?

  Can I please?

• 5:07:35Speaker 01

  Rub Ryan Shaw's hands afterwards. No, that's cool. That's a cool.

• 5:07:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:07:39Matt Farah?

  I might turn the chalk into mud though. I don't know.

• 5:07:44Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 5:07:47Matt Farah?

  That's where the line is?

• 5:07:48Speaker 03

  It's, no, I, I'm not sure.

• 5:07:50Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, you know what? Yeah.

• 5:07:53Speaker 01

  If Matt's hobby isn't content, then it's gonna turn into sex. That's where the disconnect is. So, that's why.

• 5:07:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:07:59Speaker 07

  There are people who do those together as well. I've heard.

• 5:08:03Speaker 03

  I, I was, well, I was gonna say, oh, go ahead.

• 5:08:05Matt Farah?

  Say?

• 5:08:06Speaker 03

  I was gonna say, I heard the, uh, Zach and Hannah look like the same person and that was really funny.

• 5:08:10Speaker 01

  That's very funny too.

• 5:08:12Matt Farah?

  The rumor is, it doesn't, it's not true, but it's really funny.

• 5:08:14Speaker 01

  It's not true. It's not good for either of us.

• 5:08:16Speaker 03

  Not at all.

• 5:08:17Speaker 01

  But it's also not good for Matt.

• 5:08:19Matt Farah?

  Up until today, they were never seen in the same place.

• 5:08:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:08:21Speaker 07

  I will, I will say that they are both so attractive.

• 5:08:24Matt Farah?

  And I would like you to, I'd like you to send in-

• 5:08:26Speaker 03

  Whoever?

• 5:08:27Matt Farah?

  Somebody.

• 5:08:27Speaker 07

  Send in another lady. That would be a radical moment.

• 5:08:30Speaker 03

  Are we having ladies left?

• 5:08:31Matt Farah?

  I think two ladies.

• 5:08:32Speaker 03

  We had two ladies.

• 5:08:34Matt Farah?

  We've had two ladies.

• 5:08:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, we had Amelia.

• 5:08:36Matt Farah?

  We've had two ladies.

• 5:08:37Speaker 07

  I saw Amelia.

• 5:08:38Matt Farah?

  We had two ladies.

• 5:08:38Speaker 01

  Sarah came in and then left him like immediately.

• 5:08:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:08:41Speaker 07

  Make her come back in.

• 5:08:42Matt Farah?

  She, no, she's not, she's not here for content. She's just here for hanging out.

• 5:08:45Speaker 07

  But we could talk about dachshunds and then we could make you guys listen about dachshunds.

• 5:08:49Matt Farah?

  Sarah's work in cars is fabulous, but her work in houses is actually somehow better.

• 5:08:54Speaker 07

  Yeah, and her work in dachshunds even better than that.

• 5:08:56Matt Farah?

  No, her dachshunds mean.

• 5:08:57Speaker 01

  Which she turns into content.

• 5:08:58Speaker 07

  She has two dachshunds and they're both perfect.

• 5:09:00Matt Farah?

  They're, one, the one, the one that's hers, one is Nick's, one is hers and it's mean.

• 5:09:05Speaker 07

  Maybe you're doing it wrong.

• 5:09:06Matt Farah?

  She's mean to all men. Jerry's, Jerry is a dog that hates men, which is a thing that happens all the fucking time.

• 5:09:13Speaker 01

  Is that the dog's fault?

• 5:09:14Matt Farah?

  Not all men.

• 5:09:16Speaker 01

  Would that dog rather be in a forest with a bear or a man?

• 5:09:19Matt Farah?

  Marco.

• 5:09:20Speaker 05

  I heard you guys needed a female.

• 5:09:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, come on in.

• 5:09:23Matt Farah?

  We need a female.

• 5:09:24Speaker 05

  What's going on?

• 5:09:25Speaker 07

  You guys can kick me out.

• 5:09:26Matt Farah?

  Marco Geraci is back in the house. What's up?

• 5:09:28Speaker 07

  So you can kick me out too at some point?

• 5:09:30Matt Farah?

  No, no.

• 5:09:30Speaker 05

  No way.

• 5:09:31Matt Farah?

  Johnny had really overstayed his welcome, but you have another 10.

• 5:09:34Speaker 07

  I have. I have only barely overstayed mine.

• 5:09:37Matt Farah?

  Also, we need to make sure we get JF and Larry Chen back in here, both of whom I feel I feel we're slightly shorted.

• 5:09:42Speaker 07

  We need JF in here with me and then we can talk about the Porsche. We can all talk about the Porsche.

• 5:09:47Matt Farah?

  Oh, Edith.

• 5:09:48Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:09:49Matt Farah?

  Edith.

• 5:09:49Speaker 07

  Edith.

• 5:09:50Matt Farah?

  Edith.

• 5:09:50Speaker 01

  Oh, I got to drive that car.

• 5:09:51Speaker 07

  So did I.

• 5:09:52Matt Farah?

  When he comes back in, that's when I'll take a little break.

• 5:09:56Speaker 07

  We'll just talk about it.

• 5:10:00Matt Farah?

  So Marco has, oh wait, when is, when is the, oh shit, when is the, that's April 1st.

• 5:10:07Speaker 05

  What did I do?

• 5:10:08Matt Farah?

  April 1st is tomorrow.

• 5:10:09Speaker 05

  No, it's Tuesday.

• 5:10:10Matt Farah?

  How many people are watching live?

• 5:10:13Speaker 07

  It refers to tomorrow.

• 5:10:16Matt Farah?

  Alright, I can't talk about it, I'm sorry.

• 5:10:17Speaker 05

  No, you can't.

• 5:10:18Matt Farah?

  I was gonna talk about the Carrera S that I drove that was identical to your Carrera S except it's a PDK.

• 5:10:24Speaker 05

  I did offer you my car.

• 5:10:25Matt Farah?

  I know, but Zach was out of town, so I couldn't. It was only me.

• 5:10:29Speaker 05

  Oh, right.

• 5:10:29Matt Farah?

  It wasn't even, like, I couldn't even drive.

• 5:10:30Speaker 07

  Oh, you've got an embargo.

• 5:10:31Matt Farah?

  I have an embargo. I have a Carrera S embargo, I'm sorry to say.

• 5:10:36Matt Farah?

  But, anyway.

• 5:10:38Speaker 05

  Oh, you don't have to talk about Porsche. I mean, I do that a lot.

• 5:10:40Matt Farah?

  Johnny's whiskey now that he's not here anymore.

• 5:10:41Speaker 05

  Nah.

• 5:10:42Speaker 01

  Do you want to talk about the cars that get brought to you to fix, or do you want to do that on a different show?

• 5:10:46Speaker 05

  Whatever. Look, I mean, I'm the show killer, right?

• 5:10:49Speaker 07

  No, no.

• 5:10:49Speaker 05

  No one wants to hear anything I have to say.

• 5:10:51Speaker 07

  You might be a show killer here if I'm wrong about this, but were we once at a party talking about a friend of yours who's actually a neighbor of mine and he has like 928s and a bunch of trucks?

• 5:11:01Speaker 05

  944s.

• 5:11:01Speaker 07

  944s, yeah.

• 5:11:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's a good friend of mine.

• 5:11:04Speaker 01

  This is a show killer. This is Inside Neighborhood Baseball.

• 5:11:07Speaker 07

  No, no, it's not. It's, yeah.

• 5:11:10Matt Farah?

  I thought that was the beginning.

• 5:11:11Speaker 07

  But also, it is funny because, you know, it's not, it's like, there's this house that I've seen before, and I've seen it because it's a guy who has old cars.

• 5:11:19Speaker 01

  There are houses around.

• 5:11:19Speaker 07

  And I, and I pay attention to any house that has old cars parked in front of it.

• 5:11:23Matt Farah?

  As we all do.

• 5:11:23Speaker 07

  And then somehow I meet someone who knows that guy.

• 5:11:26Speaker 01

  That is a small circle. I'll give you that, for sure.

• 5:11:28Matt Farah?

  This is how LA works, pretty much.

• 5:11:30Speaker 05

  It's really a small town.

• 5:11:32Matt Farah?

  You just described, I've met a good- Houses all over the place, a lot of houses. Based on the car that's been parked in their driveway or garage. I should have had Hydrogen Brian come down, as a matter of fact. Hydrogen Brian's my friend who works in the hydrogen industry who has five Toyota Miras.

• 5:11:49Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 5:11:50Matt Farah?

  So if you walked by a guy's house and he had five Toyota Miras.

• 5:11:53Speaker 07

  Which I would notice.

• 5:11:54Matt Farah?

  You would be like, this person is either a real problem and needs to be reported to the authorities.

• 5:12:00Speaker 07

  Well, I would assume that it was like that guy in New York who was like making his own hydrogen for his hydrogen car.

• 5:12:06Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 5:12:07Matt Farah?

  That sounds dangerous.

• 5:12:08Speaker 01

  It does, but also kind of rad.

• 5:12:10Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:12:10Speaker 01

  If he knows what he's doing.

• 5:12:11Speaker 07

  And if you don't live next to him.

• 5:12:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, don't live next to him.

• 5:12:14Matt Farah?

  You can currently buy a safe home hydrogen setup that's like the size of like a bed, like a big bedroom dresser, basically. And it can make hydrogen, and you have a tank. And it just, you have a tank of whatever, a couple of rounds of thing and it's just. These are the people who also brew their own beer. Like, people who are making.

• 5:12:38Speaker 01

  I would much rather make my own hydrogen.

• 5:12:40Matt Farah?

  You just, you just put the shit in the thing and then you just press, turn it on.

• 5:12:44Speaker 07

  It's like a compost pile where you just like get the worms and then you just.

• 5:12:47Matt Farah?

  No, it turns, it does, it takes it out of the air. It does air and electricity.

• 5:12:51Speaker 07

  Maybe Porsche should do that in Chile instead of whatever they're doing.

• 5:12:56Speaker 01

  That's what they're doing. Yeah.

• 5:12:58Speaker 07

  Why'd they have to go all the way to Chile? They could be doing it in the bedrooms of all of their Porsche engineers.

• 5:13:03Speaker 01

  It's windy where they are, I think is part of it. I need to look it up again.

• 5:13:07Matt Farah?

  Well, you know, most hydrogen vehicles are fuel cell, obviously. But I met a guy who has a startup that has a, has functional prototypes of hydrogen combustion engines that apparently you could convert very easily from gas engines, the same way you would convert to E85 or something like that. And, and, and they have a new, a novel way of, because most people don't want a high pressure hydrogen tank in their trunk, right? That's a thing. That sounds like a bad idea. And also the, the system of transferring hydrogen that we have now, which although it looks like gas pumps, it actually kind of sucks in practice. So if you had one of these home hydrogen deals, they have a way to store a low, they have a low pressure storage system for the car.

• 5:13:50Matt Farah?

  Which then combusts hydrogen as if it was gas. And if you have this home thing, now you have a way of filling the thing that really represents a similar method to charging an EV. But when you're driving around in this hydrogen car, it operates just like a gas car with a lower pressure hydrogen setup.

• 5:14:09Speaker 07

  So it's like, let's say, let's pretend for a second everyone was single. If you went home with somebody and they had some mysterious thing in their bedroom and you were like, what is it? And they were like, I'm making hydrogen.

• 5:14:21Matt Farah?

  For my hydrogen car.

• 5:14:22Speaker 07

  Thoughts?

• 5:14:23Matt Farah?

  Thoughts?

• 5:14:23Speaker 05

  I'd ask if they brewed their own beer.

• 5:14:24Speaker 01

  How old am I during this rendezvous?

• 5:14:27Speaker 07

  You are a current.

• 5:14:28Speaker 05

  That's a deal breaker.

• 5:14:29Matt Farah?

  Let me taste your sourdough.

• 5:14:30Speaker 01

  I would ask where they went to school. And if the answer was in three levels of grad school, I would leave immediately.

• 5:14:35Speaker 05

  Well done.

• 5:14:35Speaker 01

  There's no way I could perform if I'm worried about a hydrogen explosion. Because this person's like, oh, I graduated high school and I just figured this out.

• 5:14:42Matt Farah?

  Oh, no. If someone has built their own hydrogen versus they have a unit that's clearly a thing that is purchased and designed to do this.

• 5:14:51Speaker 01

  No, no, if there's no company name like welded nicely on that and it's just PVC parts.

• 5:14:57Speaker 05

  Then it's Ted Kaczynski.

• 5:14:58Matt Farah?

  So like, I'm sure Hannah's told you the story about our first date. When she came, I got her to come back to my place.

• 5:15:05Speaker 07

  I don't know if she has told me. She did tell me that she learned about like traction before your first date in order to decide whether or not she wanted to date you.

• 5:15:16Matt Farah?

  Traction?

• 5:15:16Speaker 07

  Yeah, about like tire, tire patch and contact.

• 5:15:20Matt Farah?

  We talked about tires before. God, do I know how to do it.

• 5:15:24Speaker 07

  Yeah. Truly, truly, it is amazing that anyone in this room has a partner.

• 5:15:29Matt Farah?

  I know.

• 5:15:29Speaker 07

  Go on.

• 5:15:30Matt Farah?

  No, but I.

• 5:15:33Speaker 05

  I mean, I don't anymore, but well, you know.

• 5:15:36Matt Farah?

  That is the widow's seat.

• 5:15:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:15:38Speaker 07

  But it wasn't for that reason.

• 5:15:40Speaker 05

  Fair enough.

• 5:15:41Speaker 01

  She was rescued from you.

• 5:15:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:15:44Speaker 07

  You did have a partner and she liked you and I know that.

• 5:15:46Speaker 05

  I'd order to death.

• 5:15:48Matt Farah?

  So it's not, it's not quite the same as having a scientific, a science experiment. But I did, I did a dab in front, when I used to do dabs, I did a dab in front of Hannah on our first date. And she went into the bathroom and called her brother because she thought I was like smoking crack. And he had to explain to her what a dab was. And it, you know, it does look like drugs. So she was, she was right to do that.

• 5:16:19Speaker 05

  It looks like drugs because it is.

• 5:16:21Speaker 01

  I have to break off a piece of golden glass and melt it with a blowtorch.

• 5:16:24Matt Farah?

  It's where weed becomes drugs.

• 5:16:26Speaker 07

  Way back when I was in college and I was dating, I did go on a date with someone who, in the car before we went into the club, was like, "I need to do this. I was recently diagnosed with diabetes." And to this day, I am not sure that he wasn't actually...

• 5:16:43Matt Farah?

  Wait, what did they do?

• 5:16:44Speaker 07

  He like...

• 5:16:45Matt Farah?

  He shot up?

• 5:16:46Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:16:47Matt Farah?

  Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, did...

• 5:16:49Speaker 07

  No, no, he was... He had diabetes. He didn't do like...

• 5:16:54Speaker 05

  Did it involve a tourniquet?

• 5:16:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:16:55Speaker 07

  No, it did not involve a tourniquet.

• 5:16:57Speaker 05

  Then I think you're saying...

• 5:16:58Matt Farah?

  If someone shot up and their behavior didn't immediately become jelly, then they were probably actually...

• 5:17:05Speaker 07

  He was kind of a pretty chill guy to begin with.

• 5:17:07Matt Farah?

  Muscle or vein? Chris Moltisanti fell asleep on the dog.

• 5:17:10Speaker 07

  I don't know. It was in the dark in a car.

• 5:17:12Matt Farah?

  He killed Kosar?

• 5:17:14Speaker 01

  Direction of needles, very important.

• 5:17:16Speaker 07

  You guys are so smart.

• 5:17:18Speaker 01

  Well, now degrees or angular with the vein?

• 5:17:20Speaker 07

  It was right in the butt, actually, which is weird, right?

• 5:17:22Speaker 05

  Oh, that was steroids.

• 5:17:23Matt Farah?

  Steroids. Yeah.

• 5:17:25Speaker 05

  And then we went to the gym.

• 5:17:27Speaker 07

  Yeah, it wasn't a great date.

• 5:17:30Speaker 01

  He fought somebody. I'm not sure why.

• 5:17:31Speaker 07

  He fought somebody.

• 5:17:32Speaker 01

  Lifted a car.

• 5:17:33Matt Farah?

  I feel like Alana is the perfect guest to fucking drop a couple of car you garbage questions on.

• 5:17:39Speaker 01

  Sure, yeah.

• 5:17:39Matt Farah?

  Because you probably have a yes to a couple of these.

• 5:17:43Speaker 05

  Sorry, I'm just laughing because I know it's probably true.

• 5:17:46Matt Farah?

  Have you ever used a gas station squeeze to clean something that's not glass?

• 5:17:50Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah. Sometimes the birds poop in weird places.

• 5:17:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do.

• 5:17:56Matt Farah?

  Uh, have you, let's see, um... Have you ever installed a novelty shift knob or a steering wheel crank knob?

• 5:18:08Speaker 05

  Brody knob.

• 5:18:09Speaker 07

  I have not installed a brody knob. I have had, I have driven cars that have had brody knobs.

• 5:18:15Matt Farah?

  And please rate on a 1 to 10 scale the brody knobs usefulness in the particular situations in which you used it.

• 5:18:21Speaker 07

  Well, since the situation was looking cool as fuck, the answer is great. It was great.

• 5:18:27Speaker 01

  I had a Lyft driver use one last year.

• 5:18:29Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:18:30Speaker 01

  I was shocked to see that.

• 5:18:31Speaker 07

  Unusual on a new car that doesn't seem like they would be smooth enough.

• 5:18:35Speaker 01

  No.

• 5:18:36Speaker 07

  You know, you'd get in an old car, that kind of power steering really works with them.

• 5:18:39Speaker 01

  What was it, like six revolutions?

• 5:18:40Matt Farah?

  Recirculating ball plus giant.

• 5:18:43Speaker 07

  And you can kind of just flip and catch.

• 5:18:45Matt Farah?

  Like a drift car, but not.

• 5:18:47Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:18:48Matt Farah?

  Have you ever reinforced a seat with pillows, blankets, tape, or clothing?

• 5:18:53Speaker 07

  Have I ever not? I have actually stolen pillows from hotels so that I could successfully drive supercars that don't have movable seats, so I can't reach the pedals.

• 5:19:04Speaker 01

  Oh, respect.

• 5:19:05Speaker 07

  I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the hotel.

• 5:19:09Matt Farah?

  Have you ever used anything besides a key to start the car?

• 5:19:14Speaker 07

  Of course I have. Are these questions people don't say yes to?

• 5:19:17Matt Farah?

  These are questions just for you.

• 5:19:19Speaker 01

  Now, did you use a screwdriver?

• 5:19:20Speaker 07

  Screwdriver, screwdriver.

• 5:19:21Matt Farah?

  Screwdriver.

• 5:19:24Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 5:19:27Matt Farah?

  Has your car ever operated with fewer gears than it left the factory with?

• 5:19:36Matt Farah?

  Do I have to add? Also known as a skip shift.

• 5:19:38Speaker 07

  Okay, actually, so none of my... I have had transmission failures, but I have never actually had a partial transmission failure, so no. But I did drive a fairly new Lamborghini once that first... an entire day just didn't have third gear.

• 5:19:55Matt Farah?

  It was an E-gear car?

• 5:19:56Speaker 07

  Just didn't...

• 5:19:57Matt Farah?

  It was a paddle shift car?

• 5:19:58Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:19:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:19:59Speaker 07

  But it didn't have it even in, like, its own...

• 5:20:01Speaker 01

  Are we including linkage issues where the transmission gear's not broken, but you just can't put the transmission into a different gear?

• 5:20:08Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, the question is 12 words. I didn't define it.

• 5:20:12Speaker 07

  I think probably...

• 5:20:14Speaker 01

  I'm going to jail or not.

• 5:20:15Speaker 07

  Probably during the roadkill... probably during the roadkill days, I drove cars that didn't go into their gears, but I don't consider those my cars. That would work.

• 5:20:24Speaker 01

  We need to discuss what the definition of is is.

• 5:20:26Matt Farah?

  And lastly, have you ever used another car's license plate on a car of yours? Have you ever rode dirty like that?

• 5:20:32Speaker 07

  No, no. I am extremely law-abiding.

• 5:20:35Matt Farah?

  I've ridden very dirty.

• 5:20:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, I have not driven very...

• 5:20:38Matt Farah?

  Let's ask you the three important questions, and then we will swap you out.

• 5:20:41Speaker 07

  Yeah, I'll go find somebody better and more interesting.

• 5:20:43Matt Farah?

  For somebody be... who is over there with a beard?

• 5:20:46Speaker 07

  Jonny Lieberman?

• 5:20:47Matt Farah?

  Oh, Johnny. Oh, wow. My, uh... these glasses don't work from... No, these are for here. These are here glasses. Up close glasses? Yeah, these are here glasses. The old man glasses.

• 5:20:58Speaker 01

  These are for here, not for there.

• 5:20:58Matt Farah?

  These are here glasses.

• 5:20:59Speaker 01

  If you're a somatologist, do you need glasses for here or there?

• 5:21:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:21:02Speaker 01

  Do you have a degree?

• 5:21:04Matt Farah?

  Okay. Question. Far side. Question number one. We started the podcast in 2012, beginning of 2012. What were you doing in the beginning of 2012?

• 5:21:14Speaker 07

  Okay, I believe that I had just started at Hot Rod because I was here at a very early podcast, although I don't believe I was a guest. I think I had come with someone else who was a guest and I just was supervising in the old building.

• 5:21:28Matt Farah?

  Dude, I feel like you came with...

• 5:21:30Speaker 07

  Aaron Robinson, maybe?

• 5:21:31Matt Farah?

  Maybe Aaron.

• 5:21:31Speaker 07

  Or Corey.

• 5:21:33Matt Farah?

  No, maybe, I think it was Aaron. Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah, okay.

• 5:21:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, but I think I had just started at Hot Rod. I had just left the con media PR position and I had officially moved to journalism.

• 5:21:43Matt Farah?

  Okay, and now, look at you.

• 5:21:44Speaker 07

  And now, look at me.

• 5:21:46Matt Farah?

  Features editor. Yeah, that's amazing. Okay. Number two is best road trip ever. Not hypothetical, one you've actually done.

• 5:21:53Speaker 07

  Oh, my God. This is really hard. My entire life is good road trips.

• 5:21:57Matt Farah?

  I know. It's hard. We live in a curated road trip existence.

• 5:22:03Speaker 07

  Okay, one of, I'm not going to say this is the very best one, but this was an excellent road trip, was when the Hellcat first came out, the Hellcat Charger, at Hot Rod. Brandon Galogly, who now works at Hagerty, and I, and a videographer from Hot Rod, went on a road trip in a Hellcat Charger. And we did kind of like our own private one lap of America where our goal was to hit five drag strips in five days and run an 11-second quarter mile at each one. And we did do that. One drag strip, we hit a 12 at because it was like 112 degrees and there was just no friggin' way. But, yeah, so it was the three

• 5:22:44Speaker 07

  of us and then we had a slick in the trunk and a slick in the backseat and we just like hauled ass. We went from...

• 5:22:51Matt Farah?

  Can a Hellcat not run elevens without slicks?

• 5:22:54Speaker 07

  Well, it wasn't like a slick. It was like a cheater slick versus the...

• 5:22:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah, compound.

• 5:22:58Speaker 07

  Yeah. It just sounds like it just burns the tires.

• 5:23:00Speaker 01

  All the way down the

• 5:23:01Speaker 07

  Well, you can

• 5:23:03Matt Farah?

  2015

• 5:23:04Speaker 07

  Uh But that was, you didn't say it had to be in 2012. You just said, "What was my best road trip?"

• 5:23:09Matt Farah?

  Oh, that's true. Sorry. I, I, I'm sorry.

• 5:23:11Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:23:11Matt Farah?

  You see what's happened is I drank some of this fucking rocket fuel.

• 5:23:14Speaker 07

  I know. This is very strong. This is a very strong alcohol.

• 5:23:18Matt Farah?

  Oh, you haven't? A little, very little. Marco, get in there.

• 5:23:21Speaker 01

  Your, uh, your first appearance on the show was eight years ago.

• 5:23:24Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:23:24Speaker 01

  Your first solo show was 2017.

• 5:23:26Speaker 07

  Yeah. There you go.

• 5:23:27Matt Farah?

  Just want a little tiny splash of water. I apologize for conflating your responses to not

• 5:23:31Speaker 07

  No, no, that's okay. I mean, you did

• 5:23:33Matt Farah?

  That is a very good road trip.

• 5:23:33Speaker 07

  You did something. It was a great road trip. We, at one point, we, um, we like tried to make waffles on the supercharger because it has that like waffle top.

• 5:23:42Matt Farah?

  Did that even come close?

• 5:23:42Speaker 07

  No, it did not work. It was a real mess. We had to clean it up.

• 5:23:46Matt Farah?

  Oh my God, what a disgusting mess that was. We once saw, I once judged a 24 hours of lemon's race and one of the side things was using your engine to cook with. So, most people used it as a source of heat. One guy rigged up on top of his supercharger an extruder, which is the thing that, uh, like Cheetos are made of. And fucking, this guy just like fired up, he filled the hopper and like fired up the engine and it just started basically shooting unflavored Cheetos all over the fucking paddock.

• 5:24:24Speaker 07

  I bet you could do that with like a pasta maker.

• 5:24:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, probably.

• 5:24:28Speaker 01

  Just fire up nookie.

• 5:24:29Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:24:30Speaker 01

  That sounds amazing. That's a great idea.

• 5:24:31Matt Farah?

  Dude, he was over cranking this thing by probably 200%. It was like, it was ripping. It eventually tore itself to shreds when he hit the gas.

• 5:24:38Speaker 07

  See, that is, we were talking about off-roading earlier and, um, cooking on the engine is perfect for off-roading because you throw your wrapped burritos onto the engine at the beginning of the trail ride and by the time you get to your lunch stop, they're ideal. Great.

• 5:24:53Speaker 01

  It's a good system.

• 5:24:54Matt Farah?

  We did a cooking on the car's garbage and Zach beat me.

• 5:24:57Speaker 01

  That's a car you garbage question, for sure.

• 5:24:59Matt Farah?

  My favorite car you garbage, I wrote 130 questions and my favorite one that I wrote

• 5:25:03Speaker 07

  Do you, okay, just, uh, like, we won't do this here live unless I stay all day, but, um, maybe down the road, we'll, we'll do it privately. Uh, do you think that my answer to every one of your questions is yes?

• 5:25:14Matt Farah?

  No, not every one of them because they're not all like, I've chosen

• 5:25:18Speaker 07

  They're not all, "Are you actually garbage?"

• 5:25:20Matt Farah?

  I've chosen ones that are more like for you, like, like, for instance, like, um,

• 5:25:25Speaker 07

  Give me one that I'll say no to.

• 5:25:27Matt Farah?

  Uh, okay. Uh, like, have you ever intentionally abandoned or had disappeared a car?

• 5:25:35Speaker 07

  Uh, I did once leave a car that then got towed and we never bothered to pick it up.

• 5:25:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that counts, actually. That's a yes, that's a yes. Um, okay, do you have, on your car, or any car you have, do you have a political sticker for a non-politician, for instance, Dan Gurney for president?

• 5:25:53Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, I actually don't really like to have stickers on my car.

• 5:25:57Matt Farah?

  Okay, so yeah, so that's a no. Uh, have you ever used a garbage bag as a window?

• 5:26:03Speaker 07

  Um, I have put plastic in a car window, yeah.

• 5:26:08Matt Farah?

  Well, that counts. I mean, listen, I think you'd probably bet over $500.

• 5:26:13Speaker 07

  Okay, you need to, so I do think that you should text them to me and then we'll find out and you can report back on one of your later episodes.

• 5:26:22Matt Farah?

  Well, like, I, I, I do, I mean, I really love pen and paper, so these were obviously all originally written by hand. I do have them on a, in a word doc.

• 5:26:30Speaker 07

  You can just take a photo and text it to me.

• 5:26:32Matt Farah?

  Okay, and you can just like, Y and Y and and and Y and Y.

• 5:26:34Speaker 07

  Tom was just telling me that his brother has been driving, um, so, uh, so my husband and his brother's own, uh, music store called Pro Drum Shop, which I'm representing, and, um, and he was telling me that his brother has been driving, uh, some of their suppliers crazy because he has this habit of handwriting, uh, part numbers on like a, a notepad and then just taking a photo and texting it to them as like an order and they're like, "Yeah, no, we need a P.O. number."

• 5:26:59Matt Farah?

  Dude, that would drive me crazy.

• 5:27:00Speaker 07

  Like, everyone on both sides is going insane.

• 5:27:03Matt Farah?

  Marco's like, "Hell, no." Actually, that's how I run my business.

• 5:27:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, that's a no.

• 5:27:09Speaker 07

  And on that note.

• 5:27:10Matt Farah?

  Okay, wait, no, the third question.

• 5:27:11Speaker 07

  Oh, go ahead.

• 5:27:12Matt Farah?

  We have the third question, although I suppose the car you garbage questions didn't cover, but we should be consistent. This one's gonna be outside of your wheelhouse.

• 5:27:19Speaker 07

  Uh-huh.

• 5:27:19Matt Farah?

  Because it's not how you normally live your life.

• 5:27:21Speaker 07

  Right.

• 5:27:22Matt Farah?

  But I give, I give you $10 million right now that you have to spend on cars.

• 5:27:25Speaker 07

  That's so many dollars.

• 5:27:26Matt Farah?

  By the end of the day.

• 5:27:27Speaker 07

  $10 million I spend on cars.

• 5:27:29Matt Farah?

  Brewster's millions? By the end of the day, one day. Are you Brewster's millions?

• 5:27:32Speaker 07

  One day, okay, yeah, sure.

• 5:27:33Matt Farah?

  Brewster's millions, 10, 10. That's your day rate for being on the show. Yeah. What are we buying?

• 5:27:38Speaker 07

  Oh, okay. I mean, I don't have paper, so I can't do the math, but I'm getting a Mira, so that's most of it.

• 5:27:42Matt Farah?

  A Mira? Let's call that two and a half.

• 5:27:44Speaker 07

  Yeah. Last gen Viper.

• 5:27:47Matt Farah?

  That's fifty grand. A last gen Viper? Okay.

• 5:27:50Speaker 07

  No, that's a hundred and ten, at least.

• 5:27:52Matt Farah?

  I'll give you two hundred.

• 5:27:53Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, let's say ACR, so that's two hundred.

• 5:27:56Matt Farah?

  Okay, so now we're at two and three quarters. Fuck it, call it three.

• 5:27:58Speaker 07

  Yeah, okay.

• 5:27:59Matt Farah?

  There's seven million left to spend.

• 5:28:00Speaker 07

  All right, no problem.

• 5:28:03Speaker 07

  Big block Cobra for Tom, he wants one.

• 5:28:06Matt Farah?

  There's a mil and a half.

• 5:28:07Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:28:09Matt Farah?

  And one for you, too, while you're at it.

• 5:28:11Speaker 05

  So much room. You know, I don't...

• 5:28:13Speaker 01

  Simpler time.

• 5:28:14Speaker 07

  I don't like them that much.

• 5:28:15Matt Farah?

  All right, great, we're at three.

• 5:28:17Speaker 07

  I like the small blocks better.

• 5:28:19Speaker 01

  I've heard that from a lot of people.

• 5:28:20Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 5:28:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah, me too. Small blocks are way better.

• 5:28:23Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 5:28:23Matt Farah?

  They are way better.

• 5:28:24Speaker 07

  Let's see, what else do I want? Let's get a wing car, match with the Viper.

• 5:28:28Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay, all right. Best one in the world, call it a million bucks.

• 5:28:31Speaker 07

  All right, Jensen FF, the all-wheel-drive one.

• 5:28:34Matt Farah?

  Okay, seventeen fifty.

• 5:28:38Speaker 07

  They're actually pretty expensive.

• 5:28:40Matt Farah?

  A good FF is expensive.

• 5:28:41Speaker 07

  Yeah, they're like in the...

• 5:28:42Matt Farah?

  All right, so you're like in the fives somewhere.

• 5:28:43Speaker 07

  Yeah, Isogrifo. A big block one with the Pagoda.

• 5:28:49Matt Farah?

  A good Isogrifo will get you. All right, let's call that a million bucks, best one in the world.

• 5:28:53Speaker 07

  Yeah, okay.

• 5:28:53Matt Farah?

  Okay, so now you've got three million more to spend.

• 5:28:56Speaker 07

  Three million more to spend. And I already have a garage, right?

• 5:29:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, no, forget it.

• 5:29:01Speaker 07

  In this imaginary scenario.

• 5:29:03Speaker 05

  With ten million bucks, you better.

• 5:29:04Matt Farah?

  No expenses, no buyer's premiums. Let's go.

• 5:29:07Speaker 01

  Ten tough shins.

• 5:29:08Speaker 07

  Okay, okay. What else do I want? What else do I want?

• 5:29:13Speaker 07

  Oh, GT-R, like a...

• 5:29:17Matt Farah?

  Like a Skyline?

• 5:29:18Speaker 07

  Yeah, Skyline.

• 5:29:19Matt Farah?

  Best one in the world, five hundred grand.

• 5:29:21Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 5:29:22Matt Farah?

  Two and a half million to spend.

• 5:29:23Speaker 07

  All right.

• 5:29:25Matt Farah?

  Hard.

• 5:29:26Speaker 07

  It gets hard towards the end.

• 5:29:28Matt Farah?

  Listen, Mike and Zuckerman did it with one car.

• 5:29:30Speaker 07

  I'm sure they did. I'm sure they did. I'm going... But why would I...

• 5:29:34Matt Farah?

  But if you're not gonna do it with one car, then it'd be...

• 5:29:37Speaker 07

  I'm not into it that way.

• 5:29:38Speaker 05

  I didn't hear their answer, but was it a 917K?

• 5:29:40Matt Farah?

  No, it was a Ferrari 250.

• 5:29:42Speaker 07

  Yeah, see that?

• 5:29:42Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 5:29:43Speaker 07

  You know what? You could... I mean, you could offer me one, and I would say yes, and then I would sell it, and then I would buy all of these other cars. Because I got zero interest in that.

• 5:29:51Matt Farah?

  That's called doing a Myron Vernis.

• 5:29:53Speaker 07

  How about like a Stratos?

• 5:29:56Matt Farah?

  Launch a Stratos? Yeah, okay. Million bucks. Got a million and a half left to spend.

• 5:30:02Speaker 07

  Let's do another launch here. Let's do a Delta Integra.

• 5:30:05Matt Farah?

  Delta Integra.

• 5:30:06Speaker 01

  Forty grand.

• 5:30:07Matt Farah?

  No, best one in the world.

• 5:30:08Speaker 01

  About working?

• 5:30:09Matt Farah?

  Two hundred grand.

• 5:30:09Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 5:30:09Matt Farah?

  Nicest one in the world. Keep going.

• 5:30:12Speaker 07

  Well, keep going.

• 5:30:13Matt Farah?

  Got a million bucks left.

• 5:30:15Speaker 07

  Oh, um, what's the pretty Toyota 2000?

• 5:30:18Matt Farah?

  Oh, 2000 GT? There's a million bucks. Done. That's a very well-rounded collection.

• 5:30:23Speaker 07

  Thank you very much.

• 5:30:24Matt Farah?

  You know, if you-

• 5:30:24Speaker 07

  When do they come to my house?

• 5:30:26Matt Farah?

  They're, they'll be delivered this week.

• 5:30:27Speaker 07

  Great. Can't wait.

• 5:30:29Matt Farah?

  Okay, send me, uh-

• 5:30:32Speaker 07

  Send me-

• 5:30:33Matt Farah?

  Send me JF.

• 5:30:35Speaker 01

  You want a JF back?

• 5:30:35Speaker 07

  You want a JF?

• 5:30:37Matt Farah?

  Unless a new person has shown up.

• 5:30:38Speaker 07

  Okay, I'll find out. Thanks, everybody.

• 5:30:40Matt Farah?

  How about surprise me? Thank you, Alonashir of Car and Driver. We love you, we love you so much. Can we go minus two, Zach, maybe?

• 5:30:48Speaker 06

  What?

• 5:30:48Matt Farah?

  Keep it chill, minus two.

• 5:30:50Speaker 06

  How come this check engine light hasn't been lit? It's too bright.

• 5:30:53Matt Farah?

  It's really bright. Yeah, it's a fabulous piece.

• 5:30:56Speaker 01

  Like it messes up the color temp of, for the cameras?

• 5:30:59Speaker 06

  Interesting.

• 5:31:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:31:00Speaker 06

  Okay, cuz I was like, it's definitely not a BMW part.

• 5:31:03Speaker 01

  Cuz it's work, cuz it's not working?

• 5:31:04Speaker 06

  It's not on.

• 5:31:05Matt Farah?

  Are you planning on going, are you thinking you're gonna go to Pebble Beach this year?

• 5:31:07Speaker 06

  I'm not making it.

• 5:31:08Matt Farah?

  No?

• 5:31:09Speaker 06

  No, I got too much going on.

• 5:31:10Matt Farah?

  Too much works?

• 5:31:10Speaker 06

  Well, it's, uh, it's not, it's work-adjacent.

• 5:31:13Matt Farah?

  So, more, most importantly, our friend Thaddeus now works for you. Tell us how good or bad of an employee he is.

• 5:31:22Speaker 01

  He's, uh, listening.

• 5:31:23Matt Farah?

  Christian Hen is in the house. And JF, wait.

• 5:31:26Speaker 02

  At least it's cool in here.

• 5:31:27Matt Farah?

  Tighten that, tighten that, Christian. J, huh? What do you want?

• 5:31:31Speaker 01

  What?

• 5:31:32Matt Farah?

  You came in the studio for a trash can?

• 5:31:34Speaker 02

  Look at this. Look at this, who needs to be-

• 5:31:37Speaker 06

  Make yourself comfortable.

• 5:31:38Matt Farah?

  I don't know, some, some of us need to be shot.

• 5:31:39Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 5:31:40Matt Farah?

  Probably our fucking housekeeper, honestly.

• 5:31:42Speaker 02

  Fucking terrible.

• 5:31:42Matt Farah?

  Oh, boy. Okay. Hi, JF.

• 5:31:45Speaker 06

  Hi.

• 5:31:45Matt Farah?

  Hi. Uh, sorry, you got, JF got lightly hosed earlier.

• 5:31:50Speaker 02

  Why'd you get lightly hosed?

• 5:31:51Matt Farah?

  Just cuz, whatever.

• 5:31:52Speaker 04

  I walked in and then, that's all good.

• 5:31:54Matt Farah?

  No, there was just other conversation happening while JF was here instead of him, but, but-

• 5:31:59Speaker 02

  JF, would you like to sit down?

• 5:32:00Speaker 06

  I'm good.

• 5:32:01Speaker 02

  Are you sure?

• 5:32:01Speaker 06

  Well, unless you have another chair.

• 5:32:03Matt Farah?

  We don't.

• 5:32:03Speaker 06

  We don't.

• 5:32:04Matt Farah?

  Was an empty offer.

• 5:32:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, you'll be tall, but that's okay.

• 5:32:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, sure, grab a chair. There can be five if they fucking know how to behave themselves. Do the cameras need to be adjusted, Zach?

• 5:32:16Speaker 01

  Uh, we'll see once he chooses his seating position.

• 5:32:19Matt Farah?

  Uh, Christian Hand back in the hot seat. How terrible everything is.

• 5:32:23Speaker 02

  Oh, great. Strong start. I'm here for it.

• 5:32:27Matt Farah?

  I let, I let, Jesus, fidgeting with the goddamn microphone. What are you doing?

• 5:32:31Speaker 02

  Because you can't do this, because then you're aiming that way. And then you can do this, which puts you back in the hot seat, talking to everybody.

• 5:32:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, my God.

• 5:32:38Speaker 02

  There we go. Look at that.

• 5:32:39Matt Farah?

  Crazy. Are you good now?

• 5:32:40Speaker 02

  Perfect.

• 5:32:41Matt Farah?

  Are you, are you okay?

• 5:32:42Speaker 01

  Uh, I'm good. He's like, ready.

• 5:32:45Speaker 02

  Uh, that's because you should wear cans if you're broadcasting, you non-radio fucking heretics.

• 5:32:50Speaker 01

  Hey, I've done my time in radio.

• 5:32:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's why you're, you can't be heard.

• 5:32:54Matt Farah?

  You have to either be, wear cans, or be very loud naturally. Then it works itself out.

• 5:32:59Speaker 02

  But you notice that when you do this, it sounds, like you can't tell, because none of you got headphones on, because you're rank amateurs. But when you talk into an SM7B with this proximity, it reduces the proximity effect, and you sound professional.

• 5:33:14Speaker 01

  Get your tongue on the tip, as it were.

• 5:33:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And you got, it looks like you're just gargling balls. What are you doing?

• 5:33:22Speaker 02

  See this?

• 5:33:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's the inside of an SM7B.

• 5:33:25Speaker 02

  This is the secret of the SM7B, this distance, ladies and gentlemen.

• 5:33:28Matt Farah?

  Oh, the inner, the distance, like if you're at the, touching the end?

• 5:33:32Speaker 02

  If you're talking to the end. Tell you something about the SM7B, we could talk about your spec headlights, or the technological.

• 5:33:38Matt Farah?

  JF, yeah. I don't want to get headphones.

• 5:33:42Speaker 01

  For those listening, Christian James Hand has removed the sound from the SM7B.

• 5:33:47Speaker 02

  Yes, so when you speak like this, you'll notice that it sounds professional, whereas if you have it away from you, and you have this distance.

• 5:33:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I know it's worse.

• 5:33:56Speaker 02

  It's worse, because this is what the thing, so this was created specifically for radio, right? And the thing with radio DJs is that you want to be close up, so you don't have any of the room reflections. But if you have the diaphragm right against the cage, this distance, you'd get a lot of p-p-plosives. So they moved it, but then the diaphragm in this thing is super heavy, which is why you need a really good preamp to power it, which is why most people who plug them into like an SM, like a little Scarlett to do their podcasts, like, why does it?

• 5:34:24Speaker 01

  So we have the cloud thing.

• 5:34:25Speaker 02

  That's why you have the cloud lifters.

• 5:34:26Speaker 01

  That's why we have the cloud lifters.

• 5:34:27Speaker 02

  So this is made for you to talk like this and it'll never concuss because the morning show DJs will be like ha ha ha ha and then you never get any of that.

• 5:34:35Speaker 01

  Is that why, uh, was it F1 in UK, they have the microphones where it's touching their mouth?

• 5:34:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:34:40Speaker 01

  Which is brilliant because it's ending with consistent distance.

• 5:34:41Speaker 02

  And it has the nose.

• 5:34:42Speaker 01

  But it looks funny.

• 5:34:43Speaker 02

  It looks funny and it's like the cricket guys have it and everything and it creates like this uniform sound because everyone sort of has no nasal bits.

• 5:34:50Speaker 01

  They got tired of telling everyone no closer, no farther.

• 5:34:52Speaker 02

  Close, close, close.

• 5:34:53Speaker 01

  And it's like fuck it, you all hold this to make it touch your mouth and then you're done.

• 5:34:55Speaker 02

  This is designed specifically to allow you to do this. So now you know and knowing is half the battle.

• 5:35:00Speaker 01

  How do you feel about that? We're all peaking now.

• 5:35:01Matt Farah?

  No, I, I. What about JF's microphone? How is it designed?

• 5:35:04Speaker 02

  That's just a regular SM58, I believe, or is that a Beta? Can you take that off?

• 5:35:08Speaker 01

  It's a 58.

• 5:35:08Speaker 02

  So it's a Sanhai, it's a Sanhai version of a 58.

• 5:35:12Matt Farah?

  We have both. 35.

• 5:35:14Speaker 02

  It's nice, you know, it's not going to sound as good as an SM7B.

• 5:35:17Speaker 01

  It also doesn't have a cloud lifter on it.

• 5:35:19Matt Farah?

  Those are our old stu-, those are our old bikes, so we, those are the ones from our old studio.

• 5:35:22Speaker 02

  Like it.

• 5:35:22Matt Farah?

  Now we use them as party microphones.

• 5:35:23Speaker 02

  The old dentist's office studio.

• 5:35:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, for rent, if anyone needs it.

• 5:35:28Speaker 02

  That was the first place I came and visited you at.

• 5:35:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, not a great studio, but.

• 5:35:31Speaker 01

  I completely forgot about that place.

• 5:35:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, remember?

• 5:35:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:35:33Speaker 02

  It was like I was literally like a dentist's office.

• 5:35:36Speaker 01

  It was a dentist's office. It was like above or below or next to.

• 5:35:39Matt Farah?

  We were above a dentist's office, but our office had exactly the same footprint as the mirroring dentist's office below it. And our landlord was a dentist and he was my dentist.

• 5:35:50Speaker 02

  Was he really?

• 5:35:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:35:52Speaker 02

  So good.

• 5:35:53Matt Farah?

  And in the last couple of years before he retired, he got like major Fox News brain and I started to be all, hey, hey doc, shut the fuck up and get to fucking scrubbing. When he's all, you know, you can't even go outside anymore. All right, listen. And then when he retired finally and we built this and moved over here, I had to find a new dentist. So of course I looked, where would I look? Hannah's dentist. So I started going to Hannah, which is a. My dentist retired because he was seventy-five. Anna's dentist is a new dentist in Santa Monica. And I went for the first time and they're all, "How often do you like go to the dentist?" And I'm like, you know, every six months or whatever, three, four months, whatever it was. And they go, huh.

• 5:36:36Matt Farah?

  I go, "What the fuck? What are you talking about?" And they go, "Wait, was your dentist like old?" And I go, "Yeah, he just retired like six months ago because he was like seventy-five." And they're like, "Oh, boy."

• 5:36:48Speaker 02

  One of the OG.

• 5:36:50Matt Farah?

  "Homie was fucking doing dentistry like he learned to do in fucking..."

• 5:36:54Speaker 02

  In the Civil War.

• 5:36:54Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 5:36:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like having to do a shot of whiskey and bite on the leather strap.

• 5:37:01Speaker 01

  Muller's fix, they fix themselves.

• 5:37:03Speaker 02

  Good lord, you don't have to concern yourselves with back teeth, they clean themselves.

• 5:37:07Matt Farah?

  Turns out we had some catching up to do.

• 5:37:11Speaker 01

  Just take them out, man.

• 5:37:12Speaker 02

  Well, then, you know, like, from the dentist office to here in a thousand episodes, so well done.

• 5:37:18Matt Farah?

  How does it feel like a thousand episodes? Like at this point, did you think it'd get this far? Did you think it would get this far? No, seriously, like a thousand's like impressive. And I remember when you like came up with the name Smoking Tire back in, it was before you moved to LA. Yeah, oh nine, yeah. It took a long time to come up with that name. I can't believe you've, it's, it's crazy.

• 5:37:36Speaker 02

  What the, do you have, do you remember what the other candidates were?

• 5:37:39Matt Farah?

  Uh, the leading candidate was, um, it was like, I think it was called Drivers Anonymous. And it was like alcoholic, you know, I'd started, "Hi, I'm Matt and I'm a driver." It was like so, it was so pretentious.

• 5:37:52Speaker 02

  Great hook, kid, great hook, you know what I mean? It's gonna look great on a t-shirt, it's gonna look good on a coffee mug.

• 5:37:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah. You really thought about it a lot. I remember in those times, you're like, I'm, I gotta do, I gotta do something. And I was like, Oh, it took, it took months to come up with that name. That was not, that was not, yeah, I have pages and pages in my very first red notebook of terrible names that were... It was a good name. I remember when he... Hearing I was like fuck it's

• 5:38:15Speaker 02

  Drivers Anonymous.

• 5:38:16Matt Farah?

  Drivers Anonymous was right there though.

• 5:38:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:38:18Matt Farah?

  It was right there.

• 5:38:18Speaker 02

  Do you remember the, what was it, the top three?

• 5:38:21Matt Farah?

  No, but I, but I, I could dig out the, I, I absolutely have the notebook. Yeah, do you keep all your notebooks? I was asking that earlier. You have every single one of them? Yeah, I've, I've gone, I've gone through, Hannah just did this because I have three pages left of this notebook. And so I was trying to decide what my next notebook is gonna be. It's a, it's a big deal. It's about eighteen months of notebook. Okay. Every page, both sides. Moleskine or what, what do you got? No, look at this one. This is car stone. Feel this. This is stone paper. Ooh. Feel how heavy that is? The paper's made of

• 5:38:49Speaker 02

  I have to put the mic down.

• 5:38:51Matt Farah?

  They gotta open the thing.

• 5:38:52Speaker 02

  Listen, I might have an ulterior motive.

• 5:38:54Matt Farah?

  Crush, crush recycled stone. Oh nice. So here, take, take this pen and, and, and write a little bit on it. I knew I was here for a reason to pass things. It's quite, listen, I've passed many tools in my day.

• 5:39:06Speaker 02

  The friction.

• 5:39:07Matt Farah?

  I'm not above it.

• 5:39:10Speaker 02

  I don't wanna fuck up your book.

• 5:39:11Matt Farah?

  It's okay, it's just, it's alright. You can just write. It's very, it's very luxurious to write on. But the ink takes a long time to dry on that type of paper. So if you close the book quickly, it bleeds. Um, so I think I might go, anyway, point being, huh? It bleeds? Yeah.

• 5:39:29Matt Farah?

  It's like a, it's like a project car.

• 5:39:33Speaker 02

  Thanks for that smooch.

• 5:39:34Matt Farah?

  No, that's a good book. That's a really good book. It is, but we're gonna go, we were looking for my newest book and I found that in, from the beginning, I have nine filled notebooks. Oh, I thought there'd be more than that. No. So, have you lost, have you ever lost a book? I lost a book and recovered it. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I lost the book and then someone found it and sent it back to me. Oh nice. Which is amazing. It had a lot. You've always been very organized in that regard. I used to like write my like internet passwords in the back. It was very bad if I didn't get it back. I do remember like coming in, uh, your old place and you just like, you do your to do with.

• 5:40:06Speaker 05

  You always have like you are always writing in a book and I was always.

• 5:40:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, well, it's lists, lots of lists. It's I I would forget if I don't write some shit down, I'll forget it immediately. And just the volume of incoming, it has to be put into lists. And I just love, actually, one of my questions that I wrote was like, what's a thing that has been quote approved improved on digitally? But where you prefer the analog one, like I like I do pen and paper. I don't care for any type of digital note taking.

• 5:40:35Speaker 02

  Likewise.

• 5:40:36Matt Farah?

  Same with you?

• 5:40:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Like people are like, dude, I use Apple Notes all the time. Like, fuck that.

• 5:40:41Speaker 05

  You retain the knowledge better when you write it down.

• 5:40:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:40:43Speaker 05

  You're thoughtful of it.

• 5:40:43Speaker 02

  It's also like it's it's not there. It's like a physical thing that you I burn them. I burn them when they're done.

• 5:40:51Matt Farah?

  You physically burn the books?

• 5:40:52Speaker 02

  Physically burn the books.

• 5:40:53Matt Farah?

  Is that? Well, what's in the books? I mean, is it? Is it?

• 5:40:57Speaker 02

  Stuff.

• 5:40:57Matt Farah?

  Is it that? It's yeah, it's that kind of stuff. Okay, so it's not me. They're me burning my to do list. I don't think would get me the same kind of.

• 5:41:05Speaker 02

  It's like me burning how much I hate scary spice, you know, like that's.

• 5:41:08Matt Farah?

  It's literally your own private burning man. Yeah, right. That makes sense.

• 5:41:12Speaker 02

  You know, sweep the the whole thing out of the it's gone.

• 5:41:15Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 5:41:16Speaker 02

  And you can move on.

• 5:41:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:41:17Speaker 02

  But that's the thing.

• 5:41:18Matt Farah?

  But I've already selected my next notebook. It's from the existing stock, not a new notebook and weird twist. We're going back to a soft cover on this one.

• 5:41:26Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 5:41:27Matt Farah?

  Which is really gonna be a I don't know how long it's gonna last, but we're gonna try.

• 5:41:31Speaker 02

  Why the soft cut? Because it was just available?

• 5:41:33Matt Farah?

  Picked it out. I got I have like almost thirty of them from press launches and stuff and it was driving Hannah insane. So we went through and we've we found eight or nine that we both determined under no circumstances would we pick? Would we choose to use? Fucking shout out to Corvette for having two out of the nine, the C seven and C eight. Press were like, nah.

• 5:41:57Speaker 02

  The gift press journal was duty?

• 5:41:59Matt Farah?

  Well, almost all of them were pressed from press launches.

• 5:42:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:42:02Matt Farah?

  And so they're all stamped like Land Rover or whatever. The one that I ended up choosing was a Porsche one. But the the one with the Corvette had like a big cowboy like belt buckle on the elastic strap.

• 5:42:13Speaker 02

  Murka boy.

• 5:42:14Matt Farah?

  Hannah and I were like, fucking nah. And that shit's been in my closet for like ten years just for me to go.

• 5:42:23Speaker 01

  But you didn't throw it away, you just put it back.

• 5:42:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, you moved it from the Venice house to this one.

• 5:42:28Matt Farah?

  We didn't throw them in the garbage, we gave them to Hannah's friend whose kids love to draw.

• 5:42:32Speaker 02

  Perfect.

• 5:42:33Matt Farah?

  So we gave all of those ones, that we're never gonna use these, uh, in, into, to that.

• 5:42:38Speaker 02

  Right.

• 5:42:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah, so we cleared it out of them.

• 5:42:40Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 5:42:41Matt Farah?

  Notebooks are important, pens are, pens are really important, notebooks are really important.

• 5:42:44Speaker 05

  Do you prep on people you interview in those books, do you do research?

• 5:42:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, usually.

• 5:42:48Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 5:42:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Why?

• 5:42:50Speaker 05

  I was just curious, because you, you, you know, this, this show, like, you don't, you rarely talk about kind of the origins of it all. And then a thousand episodes in, I was like...

• 5:42:59Matt Farah?

  I mean, because, it's so funny, we don't actually do that good a job of like, looking back or forward. We just, it's like today...

• 5:43:06Speaker 05

  You're in the present, you're in the present.

• 5:43:07Matt Farah?

  It's just like, today is this, you know?

• 5:43:09Speaker 05

  I know, but you're, you're a thousand episodes in.

• 5:43:11Matt Farah?

  Hannah's like, "Don't you reflect on that?", I'm like, "No, never."

• 5:43:14Speaker 05

  That's kinda where, that's kinda where I'm going with this. What was, what was your, okay, question, you've been asking questions. What was your least favorite, what was your least favorite?

• 5:43:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:43:22Speaker 05

  And most favorite episode of the show?

• 5:43:24Speaker 02

  And name the guests.

• 5:43:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, you have to name the guests.

• 5:43:28Matt Farah?

  My favorite episode of the podcast?

• 5:43:30Speaker 01

  That's...

• 5:43:31Matt Farah?

  That's like, that's like impossible.

• 5:43:33Speaker 05

  Is it?

• 5:43:34Speaker 01

  It's really hard, for me, it's always the ones where there's like, the most jokes, I mean, when we had the Big Drive podcast, where it was like, all of us, plus Harris, plus Musto, plus Spinelli, and it was madness, but it was just bits and voices and laughter, like, that was insane, but those are super duper fun, like, that's, that's what I love about it.

• 5:43:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's weird, it's, I, it's...

• 5:43:54Speaker 05

  No, Matt has to say his favorite first, come on, you gotta have some, one that's like, stood out to you that was like...

• 5:43:59Matt Farah?

  I mean, there's, there, the, like,

• 5:44:03Matt Farah?

  the one, it's what's fucked up, this is kinda fucked up, my favorite bit of radio I've ever done is actually not this show. It's the Watch podcast that we did, where I, where I called, it's the episode called Carl Ruins Everything, where Carl came in and like a fucking just steamroller, just destroyed and completely reshaped my taste in watches in like ninety minutes, in a way that I have never, has never been undone. Like, he was completely right about everything he said.

• 5:44:33Speaker 05

  And that's your favorite?

• 5:44:34Matt Farah?

  And just like, set me on a path that was like, the correct one, before I even knew it was the correct one. Like, I would've ended up in the same place eventually, but he was like, "No, no, you just start going this way today."

• 5:44:46Speaker 05

  I love that I asked a question about this podcast, you referenced another one.

• 5:44:49Matt Farah?

  Well, I mean.

• 5:44:50Speaker 05

  He never did this.

• 5:44:50Matt Farah?

  No, he did. He did this podcast once or twice, right? Didn't Carl come do our podcast?

• 5:44:55Speaker 01

  I think so. I don't think I was on it when he did it, but.

• 5:44:56Matt Farah?

  No, he did. I went to New York.

• 5:44:58Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:44:59Matt Farah?

  I did his restaurant right before he died.

• 5:45:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:45:00Matt Farah?

  Months before he died.

• 5:45:03Matt Farah?

  No, I mean, we've gotten to talk to some like, pretty amazing people that we wouldn't have otherwise gotten to talk to.

• 5:45:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:45:08Matt Farah?

  And it's just, it's a fun way to, to let the rest of the world in on the conversations that you're having with your friends. Cause apparently those are interesting to, to people that are out there if you're an expert in something.

• 5:45:23Speaker 02

  Your dad episode was good.

• 5:45:24Matt Farah?

  People seem to like.

• 5:45:25Speaker 01

  I liked the dad one. That was my least favorite episode.

• 5:45:27Matt Farah?

  Prove it.

• 5:45:30Speaker 01

  I listened to it twice.

• 5:45:31Matt Farah?

  No, I just especially interact with your dad is just like, it's, yeah. I mean, it's funny, cause that, that one could be it, because I've spent like 25 years trying to escape his shadow. And I'll have people come up to me in the street and the very first thing they say is, I love the thing you did with your dad. And they mean well. And it's, they're not being assholes, but I'm just like, I will never escape.

• 5:45:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're like, my favorite thing that you built, of the thing you built is the thing when your dad was on it. Cool.

• 5:46:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:46:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, but that's where, alright, so having worked with my father for 25 years.

• 5:46:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:46:05Speaker 05

  Or 20 years before he passed away.

• 5:46:07Speaker 01

  Did you keep working with him after he passed away?

• 5:46:09Speaker 05

  In my mind, yeah, in my brain.

• 5:46:11Matt Farah?

  It was a real weekend at Bernie's situation.

• 5:46:13Speaker 01

  This guy can't hold a wrench for shit.

• 5:46:15Matt Farah?

  Ah, god. You know, when you've got access to a lift.

• 5:46:19Speaker 05

  What I'm getting at is, I, uh, go for it, go for it.

• 5:46:24Matt Farah?

  That was so fucked up. When you've got, when you have air tools at a lift, you could really. Go on with what you're saying.

• 5:46:30Speaker 05

  Well, I was gonna say, it's, for him, I just, I, I, what I meant was, he met you where you are. As opposed to you being in his shadow. He came to you and did your podcast. And that's saying something, like, that he wanted to do that with you and you guys have that thing you can now share forever.

• 5:46:45Matt Farah?

  It's cool and it's like, as, as, if we're talking about a worst, that's like, that's not the worst. There's definitely, I can't remember it, but I'm sure there's shows we did where I said something incredibly horrible that I would be ashamed of.

• 5:46:59Speaker 01

  We had those shows and then we also had guests that aren't good at carrying that we've had plenty of guests, some racing drivers, where you toss them the ball and then they catch it and they just hold the conversation ball. They don't throw it back and they don't really keep the game going. They're just like, uh huh, and they drop it and then they just look at you like waiting for you to

• 5:47:15Speaker 02

  Those are the worst.

• 5:47:17Speaker 01

  It's brutal. Especially when they've had an interesting life, like, tell us about winning Daytona. They're like, oh yeah, that was pretty hard.

• 5:47:23Speaker 05

  Well, the problem with that is that they're just so media trained. At a certain point, they don't know how to escape it, right?

• 5:47:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's true.

• 5:47:28Speaker 05

  Their brains go just mush.

• 5:47:30Matt Farah?

  And for so long, we really believed that like the show was guest driven, which it actually isn't, or shouldn't be.

• 5:47:39Speaker 05

  Howard Stern was a universe, right?

• 5:47:41Matt Farah?

  Well, people, I mean, yeah, yes, people, Howard Stern had his own little characters and people would listen to that as while he also had celebrities on sometimes. So it was the same, and what learning that we had, we did a lot of shows, particularly for the first five or 600 that were quote, guest driven, where this, the need to have a guest brought substandard guests and not necessarily people we don't like, but like people we might love, but like who should not be broadcasting.

• 5:48:11Speaker 05

  Right.

• 5:48:12Matt Farah?

  You know?

• 5:48:13Speaker 05

  So what was the worst?

• 5:48:14Speaker 01

  That would be me.

• 5:48:15Matt Farah?

  I don't know. No, I genuinely couldn't tell you. Like, we've done so many that I've, I've suppressed. I meet people, I'm sorry, Christian. I just did a podcast with somebody and I was like, oh, nice to meet you. And he was like, I was on your podcast.

• 5:48:34Matt Farah?

  Couldn't have told you that. No idea. Like, no, oh, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:48:39Speaker 02

  Jay Leno is forgettable.

• 5:48:41Matt Farah?

  I mean, it was, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:48:43Speaker 02

  Right?

• 5:48:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:48:45Speaker 02

  My worst radio interview was, uh, John Doe from X, live at the Knott's Berry Farm opening party for some fucking new ride that they'd invented. And John Doe could name you seven million other places he would have rather been that at Knott's Berry Farm at the opening of like the parachute ride. And I just sat there asking him questions and getting, yep. Nope. For 10 minutes of that. And like Dave Letterman describes it as the room starts to fill up with saliva.

• 5:49:21Speaker 02

  That's what it felt like.

• 5:49:22Matt Farah?

  That's awesome.

• 5:49:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then, uh, the lead singer of Filter telling me to go fuck myself because I brought up Nine Inch Nails. That was a good one.

• 5:49:29Matt Farah?

  Uh huh.

• 5:49:30Speaker 02

  But when you've, that's the thing in the music world is you get assholes who will just tell you how it is. Whereas I don't think that you guys necessarily have dealt with assholes who'll just be like, if you're coming here, you're coming here to do a thing.

• 5:49:42Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 5:49:43Speaker 02

  If you're getting shoved into a radio station.

• 5:49:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, no. We've never had someone come into our studio and then just destroy us.

• 5:49:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:49:50Matt Farah?

  I think we're lucky in that regard.

• 5:49:51Speaker 01

  No, there's no marketing team that can usher them in here without us also clearing them.

• 5:49:55Speaker 02

  Right, yeah. Yeah, no, this was like forced upon me and them. You know what I mean? It's like never good.

• 5:49:59Matt Farah?

  No one wants to be in that room.

• 5:50:00Speaker 02

  Nobody.

• 5:50:01Matt Farah?

  Listen buddy, neither of us want this.

• 5:50:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:50:04Matt Farah?

  Just get through this together.

• 5:50:05Speaker 02

  The, the Richard Patrick, when I was on stage in front of like 8,000 people and, uh, he walks over and, and I was like, all right, you know, get to find common ground with your guest, right? Like immediately break it down and you have to do it very quickly, especially in front of an audience. So I was like, hey, man, I saw you, uh, play with Nine Inch Nails in like 91 or whenever, whenever it was at the, you know, Academy in New York or the Ritz in New York. And he looks at me and he goes, yeah, I'm tired of giving that fucking asshole free press. We're done here.

• 5:50:32Speaker 02

  And I was like, ladies and gentlemen, Richard Patrick of Filter, interview over. One question, one answer, nothing, no. That was it. And he walked off stage and I'm just standing there in front of 8,000 people like, mm, like the, that filling up with spit was up to the neck. You know what I mean?

• 5:50:49Speaker 01

  I want to throw a Jeff. Who is your least favorite OEM to film for?

• 5:50:52Speaker 02

  Oh, you really put me on the spot there.

• 5:50:55Matt Farah?

  You want me to throw people under the bus?

• 5:50:57Speaker 01

  You're like, who is your least favorite guest? Tell me.

• 5:51:00Matt Farah?

  Just want to name ones that are out of business right now.

• 5:51:02Speaker 01

  You don't have to answer this question. I'm just showing you what it, what it's like.

• 5:51:06Speaker 02

  Fisker. Sob.

• 5:51:12Speaker 01

  They were nothing like airplanes. What's so, what's so bad about that question is that?

• 5:51:15Speaker 07

  People that those companies may be out. PR people still work there.

• 5:51:19Speaker 01

  I don't want you to answer it, I'm just telling you how it feels, what you're asking. Hey guys, what was your lead up to the show? No, no, name the person, tell them to fuck themselves.

• 5:51:26Speaker 02

  We want names.

• 5:51:26Speaker 07

  Genuinely, like, the question came from, like, you guys have done so much and just trying to understand, like, your path here and understanding what you enjoyed about it, like, I don't know why. I was figuring you were gonna bring up your father's episode, like, that was, I mean, like, that was a good, that was really good.

• 5:51:42Matt Farah?

  Let's talk more about your dad.

• 5:51:43Speaker 07

  I, yes.

• 5:51:44Speaker 02

  That was better than you and greater and accomplished more with his life.

• 5:51:49Speaker 02

  But over to you now, you know what I'm saying? What do you got?

• 5:51:51Matt Farah?

  What's great is like, it's great, it's great, cause like, he managed, you know, he managed like fifty thousand people and made like tens of millions of dollars. You have a pot, you've really talked a lot, you've really, so you've talked a lot and divided into a great many segments.

• 5:52:08Speaker 02

  So much talking.

• 5:52:09Matt Farah?

  For a very long time.

• 5:52:10Speaker 02

  You've done a thousand of these, whereas your dad has.

• 5:52:12Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, my dad is, what's awesome about him is he's like, he's a genius, but it's hard to describe that to people. But when they hear him talk, it's like, oh, of course he is, I can hear it in how he talks, he's a genius. So, it's nice that people like, get to understand that, and he's also like, a good person, so that, that helps too. Yeah. Um, and he has good, practical advice, and, you know, he's, he's managed a lot of people, and he managed to keep a very level head about himself while doing very high-pressure things, which is hard, it's very hard to do that. So I'm glad people get to see it, and appreciate it, and go, holy shit, that's, that's not a fluke, that guy, yeah, he deserves, he deserves something. I, I don't, but he does.

• 5:52:57Matt Farah?

  But, like, uh, it's, but, but, me sitting down and talking to my dad about things for an hour and a half is not unusual to me. So, I'm glad everyone appreciated it, but it's not like, doing that was some kind of special moment, cause we do that shit all the time, just without SM7Bs.

• 5:53:16Speaker 04

  Right, but it is a more formal setting in which you can ask questions, more pointed questions, and maybe questions.

• 5:53:22Matt Farah?

  Yes, alright, the Wranglers is, is booting people, I want all three of you gone, and I want Vin and Ron. I want Vin and Ron, we love you guys, thank you, JF. There's, yo, we have two more hours of this.

• 5:53:37Speaker 05

  Need some waters or something in here?

• 5:53:38Matt Farah?

  Uh, no, I'm okay, thank you. Uh, actually, yeah, can you get some more for them? Vin and Ron! Sorry to keep you guys waiting.

• 5:53:48Speaker 05

  It's all good.

• 5:53:48Matt Farah?

  One and one.

• 5:53:49Speaker 05

  Great to see you.

• 5:53:50Matt Farah?

  What up? What up? What up? Welcome!

• 5:53:55Matt Farah?

  Get comfortable. Yeah, we need some waters, please. Yeah, oh, cold water would be a delight. Thank you. I am feeling so bold. Thanks. Are you feeling comfy?

• 5:54:06Speaker 01

  I want to put this in a race car.

• 5:54:07Matt Farah?

  The mic can meet you where you need it to be. You don't need headphones. Christian was just lecturing us on audio quality, so that's why we have the headphones out. He does that, though.

• 5:54:16Speaker 05

  You know what?

• 5:54:17Matt Farah?

  What's going on?

• 5:54:17Speaker 05

  This is a great segue, because I was panicking because I wanted to go to the bathroom first.

• 5:54:23Speaker 01

  Was you what?

• 5:54:24Speaker 05

  Uh, I was panicking because I wanted to go to the potty first. And I think if I had a, like, eight-hour podcast-athon, I would be embarrassed of how many times I'd have to go pee.

• 5:54:34Speaker 01

  Oh, no, we're just doing it.

• 5:54:35Matt Farah?

  I was gonna say, that's why the chair's backwards, because he's got like a NASA-type setup. Just a game.

• 5:54:43Matt Farah?

  Guys, every like fifteen minutes, you're gonna hear a

• 5:54:49Speaker 05

  Matt's like, "I've just been pissing my pants this whole time."

• 5:54:52Matt Farah?

  No, you know what, like, we, I put a lot of pressure on us to do this right and whatever, but at the same time, in order to enjoy it, bodily functions can need to be able to happen. We can't put that much pressure. Thank you guys so much for coming, though.

• 5:55:06Speaker 05

  Oh, thanks for having us.

• 5:55:06Matt Farah?

  This is awesome. Awesome to be here. You guys are fucking doing it. I love this yellow, little yellow Evo you got. That's a good fucking time.

• 5:55:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's really fun.

• 5:55:14Matt Farah?

  Is it?

• 5:55:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 5:55:15Matt Farah?

  Thank you, Hannah. Do you have anything to say? I can turn the party mic back on. Are you okay?

• 5:55:20Speaker 07

  No, I have no, no more announcements at this time, thanks.

• 5:55:22Matt Farah?

  Okay, thanks. Is everybody having fun outside?

• 5:55:25Speaker 07

  Oh, my God.

• 5:55:25Matt Farah?

  Oh, they are.

• 5:55:25Speaker 05

  They're racing all the time.

• 5:55:27Matt Farah?

  There should have been a remote, like a remote mic, like a, like one of those, like, uh, like a confessional booth? Did we just, like, set that up on the side, like?

• 5:55:38Speaker 05

  What are you drinking?

• 5:55:39Matt Farah?

  Um, so this is, you know, this was Johnny's. Did he not talk to you about this?

• 5:55:42Speaker 05

  No, it's him.

• 5:55:43Matt Farah?

  He wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.

• 5:55:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you can. It's very expensive, rare, and delicious, and look at the alcohol percentage, just to know what you're getting into.

• 5:55:54Speaker 01

  Sixty-nine percent.

• 5:55:56Matt Farah?

  Yours more. You're the one is slightly more. Okay, this is sixty. Yeah, one is sixty eight, one is sixty nine. Okay, wait.

• 5:56:02Speaker 05

  You have a little bit of like, you're, you're feeling good. So I was like, I want to feel.

• 5:56:06Matt Farah?

  I started drinking at two thirty.

• 5:56:08Speaker 01

  I want to feel good too.

• 5:56:09Matt Farah?

  You're still feeling good all the time, boys. That's such a great moment. Um, boys, welcome, welcome, welcome.

• 5:56:15Speaker 05

  Congrats on a thousand episodes, boys.

• 5:56:17Matt Farah?

  Congratulations, y'all. So many.

• 5:56:19Speaker 05

  Zach, well, first off, you guys both look different for some reason. And Zach, your hair looks incredible.

• 5:56:24Speaker 01

  He keeps growing.

• 5:56:25Speaker 05

  You look like a billionaire with your hair like that.

• 5:56:27Speaker 01

  I look like one, but I'll tell you a secret.

• 5:56:29Matt Farah?

  I have a new look. This is my new look.

• 5:56:31Speaker 05

  What changed about you?

• 5:56:32Matt Farah?

  I have the full beard instead of the goatee. Full beard, bicked on top is the new. You like it? The glasses are nice too. I'm also wearing glasses, which I don't really.

• 5:56:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, so I, I often joke that my facial recognition software in my brain is broken. I can't like, I like, I can't distinguish features on people. And if I saw you out of context, I'd walk right by you and not even notice.

• 5:56:52Speaker 01

  Dude, that feels good.

• 5:56:53Speaker 05

  Something is broken with me.

• 5:56:54Matt Farah?

  No, no, this happens to me all the time. If you're not fucking leaning on your car, I don't know you.

• 5:57:00Speaker 05

  Oh, you want to know something about that?

• 5:57:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:57:02Speaker 05

  Okay, okay.

• 5:57:03Matt Farah?

  And there's a second level to that too, but go, I want to hear yours.

• 5:57:06Speaker 05

  Here's a really funny story about that, Matt. We met multiple times when I was at Hoonigan. And then I would meet you many times after, and I'd be like, Matt never fucking remembers me.

• 5:57:17Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 5:57:18Matt Farah?

  Oh, dude.

• 5:57:18Speaker 05

  I would always be like, what's up, man?

• 5:57:20Matt Farah?

  Absolutely.

• 5:57:21Speaker 05

  I could tell he doesn't know to be like Vin from Hoonigan. And he's like, oh, yeah, what's up?

• 5:57:25Matt Farah?

  I'm the worst.

• 5:57:26Speaker 05

  But I have the same problem.

• 5:57:27Matt Farah?

  It just happens.

• 5:57:28Speaker 05

  So I came in and I looked at both of you guys. I was like, okay.

• 5:57:31Speaker 01

  You're like, which one's Matt?

• 5:57:32Speaker 05

  Matt looks different, but I don't know why. I have no idea what's changed. I was like, but he looks different. Zach looks handsome as fuck. I don't know why. He looks like he's just like out of a magazine.

• 5:57:41Speaker 01

  It's a dollar jacket.

• 5:57:42Matt Farah?

  That's so funny, but if we go to the garage, you'd be like, you put clear corners on that?

• 5:57:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, oh, yeah. Matt, did you go up from a 245 to a 255 on the front? That looks great.

• 5:57:51Speaker 04

  See a little more brake dust, you're adding ceramics now.

• 5:57:54Speaker 05

  The car guy brain is so bad.

• 5:57:57Matt Farah?

  I am a lizard. I have nothing outside where I autopilot. And now, like, you know, I'm smoking weed again, so now it's like, now it's like, am I suppo- are you a fan? You know, you guys know. Someone comes up and they're like, "Yo, what's up?" And it's like, okay, fan?

• 5:58:13Speaker 04

  Industry, are you a fan?

• 5:58:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:58:15Speaker 04

  Or do I know you from a previous?

• 5:58:17Matt Farah?

  You literally live across the street from me and I see you every day, but now you're in a totally different context than your stranger.

• 5:58:22Speaker 05

  I'm so happy that that's a shared problem, because I, and especially with the whole, like, kind of being digitally famous thing, where like, sometimes, yeah, it's like, some fans come up and they act really friendly.

• 5:58:33Matt Farah?

  Familiar.

• 5:58:34Speaker 05

  And you're like, "Do I know this person?"

• 5:58:35Speaker 04

  Well, because you've been talking to them for like, years.

• 5:58:39Speaker 05

  Right.

• 5:58:39Matt Farah?

  It's not the same as if you're Seinfeld. The approach is totally different.

• 5:58:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:58:44Matt Farah?

  He fucking knows he doesn't know them.

• 5:58:46Speaker 05

  Right.

• 5:58:48Speaker 04

  Well, and there's a thing about YouTube and Instagram in general, like, there's way more of a familiarity. There's less of a wall there, instead of, you know, the full-on, like, TV production, crazy show, everything.

• 5:58:59Speaker 05

  Well, I remember vividly, we were with Ken Block at a Chipotle outside Apple Valley. And somebody came up and was like, "Excuse me, um, is that Ken Block?" We're like, "Yeah." And he's like, "Can you see if it's okay if I say hi? Famous.

• 5:59:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:59:16Speaker 05

  You're a YouTuber? You could be mid-bite with your butt crack sticking out and someone just like, "What's up, dude?"

• 5:59:24Speaker 01

  Cause they're, cause in their, I think in their head, they go, "Oh, you're famous, but you're not that famous." Like, I can still approach you. It's approachable famous, which can still be an overstep, yeah.

• 5:59:32Matt Farah?

  I think, I think my fans are more awkward and introverted than most. Hannah will always find them and bring them straight to me.

• 5:59:40Speaker 05

  Hell, yeah.

• 5:59:41Matt Farah?

  That's, that's, that's what the wife does.

• 5:59:42Speaker 01

  Engineering students are fun, because they're into cars, but they're engineers. And Sarah Spada won, the guy had like, like, MIT racing, and he was like, looking really weird, and she went, "I think that guy knows your show." It was something like that, and she's like, "Go say hi." And he's like, "Oh, hey, how's it going? I like your show." It's adorable.

• 5:59:57Speaker 05

  On the facial recognition thing, that's brutal, not recognizing people that you know. David, from Santa Clarita Porsche, came with the Gunther Works. He was at the Ken Block thing, not wearing a hat.

• 6:00:08Matt Farah?

  Ah.

• 6:00:09Speaker 05

  And he said hi to me, we were talking, and I'm like, "I'm sorry, what's your name?" And he's like, "It's David." And I was like, "Oh, my God, I know you."

• 6:00:14Matt Farah?

  And you know him so well. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he was just.

• 6:00:17Speaker 05

  And I had to like apologize and I was like, I'm so sorry, like, you look different. He's like, I'm not wearing a hat. I'm like, that's enough to throw me off.

• 6:00:23Matt Farah?

  Fucking Clark Kent, right? Like, how? It's just glasses. I just did it on you. Well, especially in the car world, there's like Formula White guy, right? Like, look at us. There's, it's a beard, a beanie or a flat bill-ish type thing.

• 6:00:35Speaker 01

  Only black t-shirts.

• 6:00:37Matt Farah?

  Is that a new, is that a new racing series?

• 6:00:38Speaker 05

  Formula White guy.

• 6:00:40Speaker 01

  No, that's pretty much, that's been the racing series for a long time. With some exceptions.

• 6:00:45Speaker 05

  You put, you put like five o'clock shadow and a hat on Zach and like he's just another one.

• 6:00:50Matt Farah?

  That's right.

• 6:00:51Speaker 01

  Dude, Lawrence Production, I looked exactly like all of you guys.

• 6:00:54Matt Farah?

  There was a uniform, yeah. I looked like you people.

• 6:00:57Speaker 01

  I looked just the same.

• 6:00:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Formula White guy. Yeah, God, there's, there's a. That's, that's the car world. You go to any Cars and Coffee, that's what you see. Just look out.

• 6:01:07Speaker 05

  Cause the amount of times people will talk to me thinking I'm Ron or Brian.

• 6:01:12Speaker 01

  That's funny.

• 6:01:13Speaker 05

  And like me and Ron are at least like similar heights. Like, we have kind of like, almost similar facial hair, whatever. But people come up to me and talk to me like I'm Scotto. And then I'll be like, howdy. Oh, you're talking about Scotto? And I figured, I think I figured it out because we're all, like the Hoonigan original guys, we're all pretty tall.

• 6:01:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:01:32Speaker 05

  I mean, me, Ron, Hurt, Zach, Scotto, and then Dan, who's short. And Scotto makes all of us look like normal sized. So on video, people will probably be like.

• 6:01:44Matt Farah?

  Scotto scale. Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 6:01:47Speaker 05

  So in person, people probably meet me and they're like, oh, he's big. He must be Scotto.

• 6:01:52Matt Farah?

  That's so funny.

• 6:01:53Speaker 05

  You know, and you're like, no, no, no, he's even bigger.

• 6:01:55Matt Farah?

  There's an even taller man in this Formula. That's so funny. Yeah. Dude, not two, not two hours ago, Jay Leno was sitting in that chair.

• 6:02:03Speaker 05

  Oh, my God, sharing butt space with Leno.

• 6:02:06Matt Farah?

  And, and he, and he did that, but with me and Johnny. He was like, he was like, you've got the GR Corolla. And I'm like, no, that's Johnny.

• 6:02:13Speaker 05

  No way.

• 6:02:14Matt Farah?

  There, yeah.

• 6:02:15Speaker 05

  Again. Yes, it's okay. And I, but like.

• 6:02:18Matt Farah?

  Interchangeable Jew.

• 6:02:23Speaker 05

  But like, I think there is a level to it, and it's why I feel bad when I screw people up. Cause like, I'm at the core of nobody. Jay Leno, if I, if he even knew my name, I would introduce myself every time I saw him. Cause I'd be like, "You're so famous."

• 6:02:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 6:02:40Speaker 05

  Famous for decades. There's no way you would remember me at all. Someone so unmemorable.

• 6:02:44Matt Farah?

  Dude, when the first time I knew that like, Leno, Leno too, but like particularly Seinfeld, when Seinfeld did, said something that proved he watched my videos, I was like, "That video got a hundred thousand dollars, a hundred thousand views," and one of them was Jerry Seinfeld. Like, "That's weird and trippy."

• 6:03:01Speaker 02

  Amazing.

• 6:03:01Matt Farah?

  But he made a very specific reference that proved he watched the video.

• 6:03:05Speaker 02

  It wasn't just background. He actually made a connection to it.

• 6:03:07Matt Farah?

  He's super into it. He watches a lot of our videos.

• 6:03:10Speaker 05

  We had a, we had a phone call back in the Hoonigan days. We were gonna build a car for a certain rapper. ASAP Rocky. And Rocky's guy was like, "Yeah, nah, Rocky fucks with you. He watches Hoonigan." And I'm like, "What?" He might have seen my face and maybe know my name. That's crazy.

• 6:03:29Speaker 02

  What was I wearing then?

• 6:03:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, nothing cool. Black Hoonigan shirt.

• 6:03:32Speaker 02

  Oh, I was FWG.

• 6:03:34Matt Farah?

  Didn't they do that E30 giveaway? Was that ASAP Rocky? The E30 that was like, some street artist like did?

• 6:03:40Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah. He got kinda hammered, cause it was an E30 M3 that they did like something really-

• 6:03:45Matt Farah?

  Well, he bought it from Zuckerman.

• 6:03:46Speaker 05

  Oh, no way?

• 6:03:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was a Sport Evo with like 8,000 miles on it. They paid Zuckerman like, all the money.

• 6:03:54Speaker 05

  And did they wrap it like something gross or whatever?

• 6:03:56Matt Farah?

  They painted it. They painted it.

• 6:03:57Speaker 05

  No!

• 6:03:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was paint. It was our car.

• 6:04:00Speaker 02

  Man.

• 6:04:00Matt Farah?

  But they gave, dude, they did the fucking duffel shuffle, dude. They paid it, they paid for it.

• 6:04:05Speaker 05

  Hell yeah, I love that.

• 6:04:06Matt Farah?

  Straight green.

• 6:04:07Speaker 05

  I love that.

• 6:04:08Matt Farah?

  I was just like, "Okay."

• 6:04:09Speaker 02

  Cash on hand.

• 6:04:10Matt Farah?

  But imagine, it's, imagine doing a giveaway car, and you're gonna paint an M3 and you use a Sport Evo. With low miles.

• 6:04:17Speaker 05

  That's cause some people that have money, they don't understand the significance behind it, you know?

• 6:04:21Matt Farah?

  But on the other hand-

• 6:04:22Speaker 05

  That car isn't special.

• 6:04:23Speaker 02

  And I, I don't know if we're like, blowing up spots here, but you know, he did that whole thing, the testing album. And he had that Mercedes, it was a SL500.

• 6:04:32Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 6:04:32Speaker 02

  It was like an older SL. And you know, in the video, it's like, "Oh, cool, looks like a vintage rally car and everything." And it was full Hollywood. Like, the roll cage terminated without meeting. There was like aluminum foil painted over.

• 6:04:45Speaker 05

  It was a picture car, for sure.

• 6:04:46Speaker 02

  A picture car, like handbrake not plumbed in, everything. And then, the cool thing-

• 6:04:50Matt Farah?

  Thing was, he wanted to build it to be legit, but. You know what I was dope? Did you see, was, I think it was Bad Bunny? Was it Bad Bunny that did the Safari Rolls Royce? Oh, no, I haven't seen that.

• 6:05:01Speaker 05

  I saw Whistle and Diesel did one.

• 6:05:03Matt Farah?

  I'm pretty sure it was Bad Bunny Safari Rolls Royce. It was a, it was a Corniche convertible Safari. Damn. It was pretty. That's kinda slick. It was pretty slick. I was, I was definitely about it. Is that it?

• 6:05:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, hang on.

• 6:05:16Matt Farah?

  It is sick, right? Yeah, take our Instagram page off of there because we. Yes, I mean, I mean, tell me that's not, it's basically the.

• 6:05:26Speaker 05

  Is that real? Why do the photos look like a render?

• 6:05:27Matt Farah?

  It's, I don't know, but it is real. I've seen it. It's, uh, it's like the Thomas Crown Affair Mustang, but done to a Rolls Royce. Wow. Lifted flares, roll hoop with those smiley face fog light.

• 6:05:40Speaker 05

  Car builds have just gotten out of hand.

• 6:05:42Matt Farah?

  Isn't that dope, though?

• 6:05:43Speaker 05

  It is.

• 6:05:44Matt Farah?

  That's really sad. It's awesome.

• 6:05:45Speaker 05

  Well, like if you, like, I'm not kidding you, if you showed me that picture, I'd just be like, oh, AI.

• 6:05:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:05:51Speaker 05

  Like, this just looks like a fake situation.

• 6:05:54Matt Farah?

  That's in Santa Monica, by the way, and that's parked on a sidewalk.

• 6:05:57Speaker 05

  Yeah. Everything about, everything about that photo could be fake. Just a hundred percent.

• 6:06:03Matt Farah?

  But even if it wasn't, these days, like, the amount of builds that are happening and the level of builds these days, like, that's like, alright, cool. So anyway, uh, yesterday I was. Yeah, no, it's sick, but it's not like, it's not that crazy. Like, it's, it's totally doable, but that's a sedan chopped into a convertible. Lifted on Safari style wheels with fender flares. And I just think it looks fabulous, honestly.

• 6:06:25Speaker 05

  It really does.

• 6:06:26Matt Farah?

  I'm a hundred percent down for what they're doing.

• 6:06:28Speaker 05

  It's in Jewish racing gold, so it's ready to go.

• 6:06:32Matt Farah?

  I'm telling you, my next car, it's gotta, it's gotta be that.

• 6:06:36Speaker 05

  Jewish racing gold?

• 6:06:37Matt Farah?

  It's gotta be J R G.

• 6:06:38Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 6:06:39Matt Farah?

  As a current owner.

• 6:06:42Speaker 05

  Okay, I gotta nail this pitch. Matt, you have a lot of money, right?

• 6:06:46Matt Farah?

  I don't think so.

• 6:06:47Speaker 05

  Have you ever seen yourself driving a Ferrari 360?

• 6:06:50Matt Farah?

  You don't want that anymore?

• 6:06:51Speaker 05

  No, I want it, but I mean, I'd sell it to you for like, triple market value.

• 6:06:57Matt Farah?

  Sounds good.

• 6:06:57Speaker 05

  Cause you're my friend.

• 6:06:59Matt Farah?

  I have a long history of wasting money on stupid shit.

• 6:07:02Speaker 05

  I don't know, why not? Let's go. Well, you sold your Bentley Turbo R and made out on that.

• 6:07:07Matt Farah?

  Almost at a profit.

• 6:07:07Speaker 05

  Which is crazy.

• 6:07:09Matt Farah?

  Not quite, but almost.

• 6:07:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:07:10Matt Farah?

  That, I strongly recommend.

• 6:07:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, no.

• 6:07:13Matt Farah?

  I feel like that car would get you into generational debt.

• 6:07:16Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:07:17Matt Farah?

  If I had remembered this photo, I easily could have dropped another 50 into that Turbo R. Imagine you made this? I could have been riding so dirty.

• 6:07:25Speaker 05

  Could have been horse with bad money.

• 6:07:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:07:29Speaker 05

  Yeah. This thing is really cool though.

• 6:07:31Matt Farah?

  It's amazing. I love it.

• 6:07:32Speaker 05

  I give anyone props for building a Rolls Royce, cause when we did that one at Hoonigan, it was like incredibly difficult to do every single thing. Well, maybe the lug nuts on one side are reverse, reverse. I had no idea.

• 6:07:46Matt Farah?

  Why would you do that?

• 6:07:47Speaker 05

  Why would you do that? It also, it had like-

• 6:07:48Matt Farah?

  That only had one way, mate.

• 6:07:51Speaker 05

  The guy that did that worked on Spitfires like two weeks prior, so he's like, alright, well that's how we did it.

• 6:07:57Speaker 01

  So on one side of the car, it was like righty tighty and the other side of the car was lefty tighty?

• 6:08:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:08:01Speaker 01

  That's insane.

• 6:08:01Matt Farah?

  It's forward on, backward off.

• 6:08:03Speaker 05

  It took us many hours of figuring that out to get the wheels off. It also had like portal axles, like a Defender or something. It was like ridiculous. I don't get it. Because, because why not?

• 6:08:13Speaker 01

  Cause why not make it more comfortable?

• 6:08:14Speaker 05

  It had a drive shaft guibo that was made out of like, like horse stirrup. Like it was like- Cause that's what they had left over in the back of the shit. Instead of like multi-layered steel, it was like multi-layered leather with holes really. Like what the fuck? Like MLL gasket? Yeah.

• 6:08:30Matt Farah?

  I love structural leather.

• 6:08:33Matt Farah?

  That's my favorite.

• 6:08:35Speaker 05

  Shit in a car. Honestly, it's the most rich way.

• 6:08:38Speaker 04

  You're like, yeah.

• 6:08:39Speaker 05

  It's the most rich way to get rid of NVH. Poor people have like rubber mounts, rich people use leather.

• 6:08:46Speaker 04

  An animal had to sacrifice its life for my comfort.

• 6:08:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I uh, I made a, I made a motor mount and then I had dinner.

• 6:08:55Speaker 05

  Every piece of the animal gets used.

• 6:08:57Speaker 01

  Twelve cows in the interior, one cow in the engine bay.

• 6:09:00Matt Farah?

  I drove, uh, I drove a couple of months ago. Uh, I reviewed the Pagani Utopia, which is a car that they're selling this year that has exterior leather elements. Uh, the, the clamshells, front and rear are notched down with leather straps.

• 6:09:16Speaker 05

  Oh, that's cool. Can you pull up what this looks like?

• 6:09:18Matt Farah?

  You get a series of leather straps, uh, because it's considered a wear item. And, uh, let's see, can you, where's the photo when you can see it? It's, I mean, it's, uh, broadside. Look for a broadside if we can see it. Uh, whatever. It holds down the front and rear clamshells.

• 6:09:34Speaker 05

  That's cool. I kinda like that.

• 6:09:35Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 6:09:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, there they are.

• 6:09:37Speaker 04

  That's a really nice feature.

• 6:09:39Matt Farah?

  You can see it, um, well, it looks, it's just in front of the front wheel. That's a leather strap and then just behind the driver's door is a leather strap.

• 6:09:47Speaker 04

  Oh, I see that, yeah.

• 6:09:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 6:09:48Speaker 04

  It's a nice color.

• 6:09:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Cool car.

• 6:09:50Speaker 05

  Yeah. What the heck? Okay.

• 6:09:52Matt Farah?

  Fucking kinda neat, huh?

• 6:09:52Speaker 04

  Wait, there's your, there's your Jewish racing gold Pagani right there.

• 6:09:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:09:56Matt Farah?

  Fucking day, dude.

• 6:09:56Speaker 01

  Now, you could get that or you could get Vins 360, so choose wisely.

• 6:10:01Speaker 04

  Honestly, silhouette wise, is not super far off. Baking out the fenders a front a little bit.

• 6:10:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, crack that front bumper off a little bit.

• 6:10:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.

• 6:10:09Speaker 05

  It's gonna get, it's gonna get repainted this month.

• 6:10:12Matt Farah?

  Seriously?

• 6:10:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm gonna paint it.

• 6:10:14Matt Farah?

  A new color?

• 6:10:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:10:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, no.

• 6:10:16Speaker 05

  Which I'm really nervous about for one reason.

• 6:10:18Matt Farah?

  Cause your color you have is awesome?

• 6:10:20Speaker 01

  No.

• 6:10:20Speaker 05

  No, cause Action Bronson follows me.

• 6:10:23Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah?

• 6:10:23Speaker 05

  And I think he only follows me cause he likes gold cars. So I'm like, he's gonna, he's gonna unfollow.

• 6:10:28Matt Farah?

  Imagine the day you won.

• 6:10:29Speaker 04

  Watch it, he unfollows you.

• 6:10:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:10:31Matt Farah?

  What if you go, this is my new color Bronson Brown? Bronson Blue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I painted it because I love Action Bronson.

• 6:10:40Speaker 04

  That's a definite unfollow. Hard unfollow.

• 6:10:44Speaker 05

  Gotta go away from him.

• 6:10:45Speaker 01

  If he unfollows you, then you know it wasn't a real friendship.

• 6:10:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's not. I never even message him.

• 6:10:51Speaker 01

  But it could be. Maybe he'll like you for your character.

• 6:10:54Speaker 05

  Talk about bagels.

• 6:10:54Matt Farah?

  He seems fucking, talk about someone I'd really like to spend a day with.

• 6:10:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, he seems cool as fuck.

• 6:11:00Speaker 04

  Absolutely, yeah.

• 6:11:00Matt Farah?

  If you could do, alright, you could do a day, forget cars, a day in a city with somebody. I'm gonna give you a city and you tell me who you want to spend it with.

• 6:11:10Speaker 05

  Oh god, no, I'm so bad at this, I can't even remember people's names.

• 6:11:12Speaker 01

  Minneapolis.

• 6:11:14Matt Farah?

  True question. Pick a city, the answer's Action Bronson.

• 6:11:19Speaker 04

  He exists at the time.

• 6:11:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:11:22Speaker 05

  Well, because he knows all the food spots, so.

• 6:11:24Matt Farah?

  Would you rather hang out Bourdain or Bronson?

• 6:11:26Speaker 05

  Bronson, for sure. He likes old BMW wagons and has a TH lines on one of his cars.

• 6:11:31Matt Farah?

  It depends on the day though.

• 6:11:32Speaker 04

  If you're trying to take more of a food adventure, yeah, obviously it's Bourdain, but if you're trying to have food and like, everything else in life.

• 6:11:39Speaker 05

  I just, yeah.

• 6:11:39Speaker 04

  And shit talking commentary.

• 6:11:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:11:41Speaker 04

  Big body Bess, like, right behind you, just talking smack.

• 6:11:44Matt Farah?

  I do love how that dude talks. He talks.

• 6:11:47Speaker 04

  Body?

• 6:11:47Matt Farah?

  No, uh, Action Bronson.

• 6:11:49Speaker 05

  Oh, I was gonna say, Body talks like every construction worker in New York.

• 6:11:52Matt Farah?

  Right, that's exactly. The thing about New York is like, every blue collar worker in New York is just a fucking broadcaster that doesn't have an opportunity yet, dude.

• 6:12:01Speaker 04

  That's so true, honestly. You have a treasure trove.

• 6:12:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and Boston too. Find a fucking bricklayer in the Lower East Side, dude.

• 6:12:09Speaker 04

  The accent is kind of a barrier of entry.

• 6:12:12Matt Farah?

  No, forget Boston, Philly. Philly's like Boston, but I actually want to hear you talk.

• 6:12:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 6:12:18Matt Farah?

  Uh, or you garbage, shout out to him.

• 6:12:20Speaker 04

  But the action thing, his, his delivery, his cadence, everything is so good.

• 6:12:25Matt Farah?

  It's the best.

• 6:12:25Speaker 04

  There's a dedicated Instagram account. I, I, oh, happy 4/20. There's a dedicated Instagram account to accidental action Bronsonisms. And they catch people that say like, "Guatemalan green in the drop top whatever." And it's like, "Oh shit, that's a Bronsonism."

• 6:12:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:12:43Matt Farah?

  I really wish I lived my life in more catchphrases.

• 6:12:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, that'd be great. That's the next level.

• 6:12:48Matt Farah?

  Scotto is just, and I don't know if he's coming, I think he was, he said he was gonna try. It's just, he always thinks in t-shirts. He said, "End of day." He said, "It's at 6."

• 6:12:58Speaker 05

  That's it, Scotto pulls up, "6:20." You're parched. You're like, you're ready to go. You throw out his horse. He's like, "Dude, I'm sorry, I'm late." No, 6:20, he's texting, "I'll be there in 5."

• 6:13:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which means you'll be there in 45.

• 6:13:13Speaker 05

  So you extend this till 7, he shows up 7:15.

• 6:13:16Speaker 04

  Oh, the Ferrari ran out of gas.

• 6:13:20Matt Farah?

  Oh no, I hope not. I hope not.

• 6:13:22Speaker 04

  It'll be at least 8:45 by the time you start with it. Cause then he shows up and you yap off-camera a little bit.

• 6:13:29Matt Farah?

  What's in the bag, dude? What do you got in the bag?

• 6:13:31Speaker 02

  I got some goodies for you guys.

• 6:13:32Matt Farah?

  You got swag?

• 6:13:33Speaker 02

  I got a couple little things, yeah. No, I just travel with a Ziploc bag.

• 6:13:36Matt Farah?

  I mean, listen.

• 6:13:36Speaker 02

  I only have one of these. But it's a new driver's error product, because we're idiots and we make products for ourselves.

• 6:13:42Matt Farah?

  Oh, cool. It's a Sharpie and a bunch of stickers for your windshield, the ten you told you when you last serviced your shit.

• 6:13:48Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 6:13:48Speaker 05

  Well, cause when you have too many project cars.

• 6:13:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:13:51Speaker 05

  It's so hard to keep track of stuff.

• 6:13:53Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. And you don't have, and when you work on your own car, you don't have the sticker, so you're just gonna forget.

• 6:13:57Matt Farah?

  Who are these?

• 6:13:58Speaker 02

  43 Institute, Penzi, I'm working with Ken's family, still on a couple things. We got, actually, uh, next Sunday.

• 6:14:06Matt Farah?

  They're fun times.

• 6:14:06Speaker 02

  April 6th, we have the, uh, four-three day celebration at the Peterson Museum, if you guys wanna show up.

• 6:14:12Matt Farah?

  I'm gonna be in Charlotte, but.

• 6:14:13Speaker 01

  I'm gonna come on the, uh, the 6th, I think, like the Sunday.

• 6:14:17Speaker 05

  Are you gonna bring out the E46?

• 6:14:19Speaker 01

  What?

• 6:14:19Speaker 05

  Bring the E46 out?

• 6:14:20Speaker 01

  If I fix it tomorrow, yeah.

• 6:14:21Matt Farah?

  I knew that line was coming.

• 6:14:24Speaker 01

  So yes, so yes, I know. I was gone for a week, so that extended the saga, but man. Just hose fittings suck. I fixed it using a pry bar and a hammer. And that shouldn't happen a lot, in my opinion, but it does, it did. It worked.

• 6:14:38Speaker 02

  I feel like the E46s.

• 6:14:40Speaker 01

  At an age of car where that's acceptable now. That's a good point. You know. Yeah, because they definitely didn't break when they were new. No.

• 6:14:47Matt Farah?

  I want to hear about the yellow Evo.

• 6:14:49Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 6:14:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:14:50Matt Farah?

  Yellow Evo.

• 6:14:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:14:51Matt Farah?

  Pretty sick. Got it off Adam LZ.

• 6:14:53Speaker 05

  So, actually, I was gonna buy that car before Adam did. So, our friend Andrea, who I know from Pennzoil, brought this car in from Croatia, which was kinda crazy. So, it was left-hand drive converted in Croatia, fully restored on the underside. So, like, they took everything off the bottom, they stripped it down to bare metal, they repainted the bottom, they repowder coated all the metal chassis components, they put all new bushings on it, like, incredible. The thing looks like OEM and it looks brand new. So, I was gonna buy his car off Andrea, and I sort of slept on it. And I was kinda dragging my feet because I wanted to sell another car I had. I was like, oh, wait. And then Adam bought it. But Adam was trying to do something where he had another yellow Evo, and he was trying to get like a giveaway car.

• 6:15:38Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 6:15:39Speaker 05

  So, but it showed up too late, so he had to give away his other yellow Evo.

• 6:15:42Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay.

• 6:15:44Speaker 05

  And he didn't like that it was, if you go down and post.

• 6:15:46Speaker 01

  I love that you almost clicked on the yellow E36, which is a great story. Look, I'm moving quick, man.

• 6:15:51Speaker 05

  So, uh, so, he doesn't like that it's left-hand drive, but it was a big selling point for me, because I don't really want a right-hand drive car in the United States.

• 6:15:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:15:59Speaker 05

  So, I picked this thing up, we flew down to Florida.

• 6:16:02Matt Farah?

  Does it look factory left-hand drive? Like, could you tell if you were looking at it that it was converted, or does it look legit?

• 6:16:07Speaker 05

  The only thing I think you'd be able to tell, if you could read Japanese, is the passenger side door still has the sticker. That would be on the driver's side door.

• 6:16:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, well, that's, that's nothing, that's not what I meant. That's bullshit.

• 6:16:18Speaker 01

  Just visual inspection, it looks completely factory. This is so sick.

• 6:16:22Speaker 05

  You know, even the, um, like, the gas popper and the trunk popper is now on the left side, like, so it feels super OEM. Because we did a left-hand drive swap on a ute, a Holden ute, at Hoonigan.

• 6:16:32Matt Farah?

  Oh, my god.

• 6:16:33Speaker 05

  But, we left-hand drive swapped it, but like, the hood pop was still on the right side, the gas door pop was still on the right side.

• 6:16:39Matt Farah?

  Dude, you know, like, Mini and like Aston Martin do that. They leave the hood popper on the right side.

• 6:16:45Speaker 05

  No way.

• 6:16:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they don't give a fuck.

• 6:16:47Speaker 01

  Good luck, bud.

• 6:16:48Matt Farah?

  They do not give a fuck.

• 6:16:49Speaker 01

  Because they just go, it's charming, so it's over on that side.

• 6:16:51Matt Farah?

  It's pretty disheartening.

• 6:16:53Speaker 05

  So, the car, the car is fun, because I've had a lot of CT9A. Evo's, Evo nines, Ron has an Evo nine as well. This car is like that, but just a little bit smaller. So it's a little lighter, feels nimble, like nothing steers like an Evo. You know, you've driven plenty of them. Yeah, they're. Steering's so tight and sick.

• 6:17:08Speaker 01

  It's incredible. Some of the best steering I think I've ever experienced.

• 6:17:11Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 6:17:12Speaker 01

  Price, whatever.

• 6:17:12Speaker 05

  But I made a mistake and I bought this car because, I mean, just look at it.

• 6:17:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:17:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, how do you not want it? Such an impulsive idiot. Like, I just love things and I'm like, hell yeah, car's sick, I'll buy it. So I bought it, but really I want a front engine, rear drive car. So this car doesn't really serve any purpose for me, other than it being cool. Well, your justification at first was, I need something with a turbo. All the stuff I have doesn't have turbos. I'm like, oh, okay, 3RS. Yeah. A Ferrari 360. Oh, boo hoo, you don't have a turbo car.

• 6:17:40Matt Farah?

  When he had a turbo car, he would have fucking killed for the shit he's got right now.

• 6:17:44Speaker 01

  Did you sell a turbo car like a year ago or less, like your S14?

• 6:17:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:17:49Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:17:49Matt Farah?

  Are you trying to say you're like already over it?

• 6:17:51Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying.

• 6:17:52Speaker 05

  I'm not, I'm not over it. I just, uh, I want like a front engine, rear drive car. So I'll probably sell this thing pretty soon.

• 6:17:58Matt Farah?

  Front engine, rear.

• 6:17:59Speaker 05

  Let me, let me guess.

• 6:18:00Speaker 01

  Trade a Ferrari for E46 that works some of the time?

• 6:18:02Matt Farah?

  I think, I think you want, do you have a specific one in mind or you're just looking for that architecture?

• 6:18:09Matt Farah?

  I think you either want like a Viper,

• 6:18:15Matt Farah?

  which could be interesting. Or I don't want to say like a, like a Supra or something like that.

• 6:18:22Speaker 05

  I had a 4 Supra.

• 6:18:23Matt Farah?

  I know you did.

• 6:18:24Speaker 05

  It only lasted for like six months.

• 6:18:25Matt Farah?

  You've already had a bunch of the stuff that I would guess that you would want.

• 6:18:29Speaker 05

  And I think I started realizing that, like, people get really bummed when I get rid of cars. Like, cause I think they're used to like, oh, like I want to watch somebody who has a car and keeps it forever. And the evolution of it, yeah. Yeah, I just kind of want to experience all the cars I want to experience. Like, not everything is forever.

• 6:18:43Matt Farah?

  You don't owe some fucking viewer anything, like, other than like.

• 6:18:46Speaker 05

  I tell them flat out. I'm like, this might be here forever. It might be here for a month. Honestly, that's part of the allure because you, you had this, you, you go through builds really quick, but you do them to a quality level. So like this, you had it for maybe a max of two days. And you already you're like, that wheel and tire setup horrible. You didn't even post it.

• 6:19:04Matt Farah?

  No.

• 6:19:04Speaker 05

  You're like, okay, so you got the the ad bands on there. And like you you you build quickly and you rotate quickly.

• 6:19:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:19:10Speaker 05

  And that's super interesting.

• 6:19:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, thanks. I I it's taken me, all I'm trying to, I'm doing like three mods to my Taycan. It's taken me like two months.

• 6:19:19Speaker 05

  Lower, lower wheels, tint, or wrap. This guy's built like four cars.

• 6:19:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's insane.

• 6:19:24Speaker 05

  I I realize that I have like this issue because I don't know why, like, I don't think I have like personal like clothing styling. Like, I just dress like a Formula White guy.

• 6:19:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:19:35Speaker 05

  But for some reason, I'm very specific about my cars. Like, the wagon I drove here today, which craziest comment ever is, they were like, wow, we've never seen four people get out of a car. Like, one car in recent days. Cause me, Ron, Amy, and Laura drove. And Larry Chen's in there and he was saying, oh, you know, I don't know, maybe that's a LA thing. I'm like, no, that's an income level thing. Because a lot of the people here, you know, they're doing quite well.

• 6:20:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:20:01Speaker 05

  At that level, you don't see four people getting out of one vehicle.

• 6:20:05Matt Farah?

  Four up is is true. You don't see a lot of.

• 6:20:09Speaker 05

  And you're in two blocks from each other.

• 6:20:10Matt Farah?

  That's what I know. It's so we're like. It's more that, though. I think in this crowd, it's more like people aren't coming together to places.

• 6:20:17Speaker 05

  No, we're not carpool places because we live like zero inconvenience to to go pick each other up. You don't know what traffic's doing and you had an AC. I actually, because we we have the shop together. I think it's hilarious that we oftentimes drive separately there.

• 6:20:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:20:32Speaker 05

  Yeah. To be there at the same time and leave at the same time, we're driving our V8 trucks. We're like, why?

• 6:20:38Matt Farah?

  Your carbon footprint is awful, man.

• 6:20:40Speaker 05

  Oh, it's terrible. It's terrible. Yeah.

• 6:20:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:20:43Speaker 05

  It's so dumb. But yeah, like, I like speedrun mods because I'm like, I feel like embarrassed to drive a car if it looks like a certain way.

• 6:20:49Matt Farah?

  I understand.

• 6:20:50Speaker 05

  I have to do it. Like, I got that wagon and it had black Sparco wheels on it, stock height.

• 6:20:56Matt Farah?

  Uh huh.

• 6:20:56Speaker 05

  And I was like, can't do this. Has to change right away.

• 6:20:59Matt Farah?

  Well, and there's a solid argument that if you're gonna modify a car, you should do it as soon as possible to get maximum enjoyment out of it.

• 6:21:06Speaker 05

  Oh, see, cause I was gonna say, you have to spend money on car parts, right? So for me, I have to do it while I'm fucking hyped. Like, you know, like, when you first get the car, you're like, I'll do anything. I'll like, ah, do turbo? Like, I'll buy it right now. And then after you like have it for a little bit, you're like. Do I really need to waste money on a stupid thing?

• 6:21:26Speaker 01

  You gotta keep the momentum going, that makes a lot of sense.

• 6:21:28Matt Farah?

  With the, with the Taycan specifically, I, I had my vision immediately. The day I bought the car, I knew what the finished car was gonna be. And because it's an electric car, I can only do some like little cosmetic bullshit.

• 6:21:38Speaker 05

  Which is all that need.

• 6:21:39Matt Farah?

  There's not much I can do, and who cares?

• 6:21:43Matt Farah?

  But from idea to like, your parts are ready, to being installed, is like months.

• 6:21:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. Well, I think YouTube and like media definitely pushes it forward and I wanna actually like... It rewards it a lot. Yeah, I, I wanna get away from doing any sort of car build. Because like, I don't think it's great for like, a channel. Um, even though I did an episode which Tony, uh, Tony Angelo texts me about. Tony, you know Tony Angelo? Uh, he builds like, insane cars.

• 6:22:12Speaker 01

  Every week or something, it's amazing.

• 6:22:14Speaker 05

  An insane run. And he'll just be like, "I'm putting a V12 in a fucking Mustang."

• 6:22:18Matt Farah?

  I'm putting two engines in an Impala. Yeah, he's putting a V12 in a Foxconn. Aston Martin V12, isn't he?

• 6:22:24Speaker 05

  Phenomenal.

• 6:22:25Matt Farah?

  And is it in, do we know?

• 6:22:27Speaker 05

  It's in, it's in and it runs, yeah. And like, I did an episode where I put suspension, wheels and tires on my wagon.

• 6:22:33Matt Farah?

  And it did like... Do you have more views than him?

• 6:22:35Speaker 05

  It did almost 300,000 views. And he texts me... Well, a million views on social. And a million on social, yeah. It did 1.6 million views on my Instagram. And Tony texts me and he's like, he's like, "I can't believe that video did well." And I'm like, "I just put coilovers and wheels on a wagon."

• 6:22:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:22:51Speaker 01

  What do you think, what do you credit that with? Like, is it your structure of video?

• 6:22:55Speaker 05

  I think cause I do a good job at like, telling a story about it, but then...

• 6:22:58Matt Farah?

  It's also a good hook.

• 6:22:59Speaker 05

  It's also like, it's pretty relatable.

• 6:23:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, relatable.

• 6:23:01Speaker 05

  Simple, easy car, that you're like, "Take a boring car, make it kinda cool."

• 6:23:05Matt Farah?

  That's relatable, yeah. My friend Larry Casilla is like, one of the best detailers in the world. And when I...

• 6:23:10Speaker 05

  I know, I watch Larry.

• 6:23:11Matt Farah?

  I went back, yeah, so now he makes videos. So I was a partner with him, we had a car wash business. I left to make videos. When I got successful, I taught him how to make videos. He then went make videos to get way more views than I get. And he's like, washing a goddamn car.

• 6:23:27Speaker 05

  Yo, I do a lot of... So I do a lot of car wash content on my Instagram.

• 6:23:32Matt Farah?

  It's huge.

• 6:23:33Speaker 05

  And it crushes.

• 6:23:34Matt Farah?

  Huge.

• 6:23:34Speaker 05

  It crushes. And it's so simple, and I like washing cars, but I love Larry.

• 6:23:38Matt Farah?

  He's the best.

• 6:23:39Speaker 05

  Larry came out to the event I had in Connecticut a couple of weeks ago.

• 6:23:43Matt Farah?

  Oh, really?

• 6:23:43Speaker 05

  And I didn't meet him, unfortunately.

• 6:23:45Matt Farah?

  What event did you have in Connecticut?

• 6:23:46Speaker 05

  Uh, I finished my Mark II GTI, it's like a high school dream car, and FCP Euro did like a, like a pop-up event at a brewery, and...

• 6:23:55Matt Farah?

  Oh, look at that!

• 6:23:56Speaker 05

  Dude.

• 6:23:56Matt Farah?

  High school dream car. Yeah, that's fabulous.

• 6:23:59Speaker 05

  Everyone hates the wheels, but I want to...

• 6:24:01Matt Farah?

  Really? Can we get another angle? I don't hate them. Everyone hates them?

• 6:24:05Speaker 05

  Because, that was, I bought it off the original owner.

• 6:24:08Speaker 01

  There we go.

• 6:24:09Matt Farah?

  Uh, well, they're...

• 6:24:11Speaker 05

  Hear me out.

• 6:24:11Matt Farah?

  I don't hate them. I don't hate them. I, it's, I don't think it's an optimized choice, but I don't hate them.

• 6:24:16Speaker 05

  But here's why.

• 6:24:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:24:17Speaker 05

  The car's got a VR6 swap.

• 6:24:19Matt Farah?

  These are TE's.

• 6:24:20Speaker 05

  The VR6 sits really low, and when I was a kid, all I wanted was slammed cars. But New York roads suck.

• 6:24:26Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm.

• 6:24:26Speaker 05

  And I was like, I'm not driving a slammed car anymore. So I went with like a 15 by 8 with like a meaty tire, because it drives nice. It drives like an adult car.

• 6:24:34Speaker 01

  Sidewall is the way.

• 6:24:35Speaker 05

  Yeah. It really is. Big meaty sidewall is life changing. 15 by 8 with a 20550. If I was doing it like the high school dream way, it would have a 16 by 9 with a 19540. Super low broom. So it would just be dumped like on the ground. And then it would suck to drive.

• 6:24:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah, so, uh, so...

• 6:24:53Speaker 05

  Every pothole is a panic moment.

• 6:24:55Matt Farah?

  You know, actually, I think this looks pretty good. I don't, I don't hate the TE's. I like them. Yeah, they wouldn't be what I would choose, but I like them.

• 6:25:01Speaker 05

  I like them. They're actually WRC Subaru wheels. They were like, yeah, like...

• 6:25:06Matt Farah?

  They're, they look like TE's. Am I like imagining things?

• 6:25:09Speaker 05

  No, no, no, they are TE's. But they're off like a, they're off a 25RS, and it was like built for like a rally car.

• 6:25:14Matt Farah?

  Sick.

• 6:25:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:25:15Matt Farah?

  Ah, but that's great. Is it back here yet?

• 6:25:17Speaker 05

  No, I'm gonna leave it in New York.

• 6:25:19Matt Farah?

  Oh, cool.

• 6:25:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, because I want to do, dude, the, the scene over there is so fun.

• 6:25:22Matt Farah?

  It is.

• 6:25:22Speaker 05

  It's like, it's really cool.

• 6:25:23Matt Farah?

  The Connecticut, the, the Connecticut car scene is sick.

• 6:25:26Speaker 05

  So we had an event on a Wednesday night.

• 6:25:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:25:28Speaker 05

  At 6pm in Bridgeport.

• 6:25:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:25:31Speaker 05

  Like 500 people showed up.

• 6:25:32Matt Farah?

  So, if you don't know, Bridgeport is, uh, the wealthiest area.

• 6:25:36Speaker 05

  Yeah. Also, the east coast, like, getting people to show up to...

• 6:25:39Speaker 04

  An event for cars on the east coast, everybody shows up.

• 6:25:42Matt Farah?

  They all show up because there are twenty events a weekend. Right.

• 6:25:46Speaker 05

  Well, I think like Larry, Larry came out, he drove pretty far, like over an hour. A lot of my friends, people I met out there like drove over an hour, whereas like in LA.

• 6:25:54Speaker 04

  If you're twenty minutes away, I don't know, traffic, and then tomorrow, there's this other thing going on at HB.

• 6:26:01Speaker 01

  It's just saturated though.

• 6:26:02Speaker 05

  No, they get excited about shit. Back in the hood days, we hated having events in SoCal just because of how saturated it was.

• 6:26:07Speaker 04

  It's so tough to get anybody to show up to.

• 6:26:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, you're like, you would be trying to do a content, like a event calendar and you're like, oh, we can't do this Sunday because it's like, Sevens Day, there's a Honda meet.

• 6:26:17Speaker 04

  And then Hot Wheels is doing a thing and they're each, yeah.

• 6:26:20Speaker 05

  It's crazy. Yeah. So I love this GTI.

• 6:26:22Matt Farah?

  Okay, so are you, but are we hanging on to the Evo or no? We don't even know yet.

• 6:26:26Speaker 05

  I'm gonna sell Evo eventually for sure. Or we'll do a car giveaway with it on Drivers' Era, but.

• 6:26:30Speaker 04

  Maybe.

• 6:26:31Matt Farah?

  But we're keeping the Ferrari.

• 6:26:32Speaker 05

  Ferrari's staying. I don't think I'll ever sell that car. I love that thing.

• 6:26:35Matt Farah?

  Peter Ferraris are fun.

• 6:26:36Speaker 05

  Peter Ferrari's good.

• 6:26:37Speaker 04

  I love that car.

• 6:26:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's, it's like that weird thing where I don't know what I could replace it with, you know, for dollar for dollar.

• 6:26:44Matt Farah?

  You couldn't replace it with something better.

• 6:26:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. And to be honest, I was never a supercar guy, never really cared about like Ferraris or anything and. Driving a Ferrari almost every day is so cool.

• 6:26:55Matt Farah?

  If you wanted to swap it out to a 599 with a manual swap, that could be a, a, a lateral and slightly upward move that could be rowdy as fuck.

• 6:27:05Speaker 01

  And that gives you front engine.

• 6:27:06Matt Farah?

  599 manuals are some nasty motherfuckers, dude.

• 6:27:10Speaker 05

  V12?

• 6:27:11Matt Farah?

  Autos are dirty cheap.

• 6:27:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:27:14Matt Farah?

  Here's the problem you need to look out for, the brakes. If you need brakes, they're forty-five thousand dollars.

• 6:27:20Speaker 05

  Can you just steal brake swap them though?

• 6:27:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, can you just like AP racing or something?

• 6:27:24Matt Farah?

  You like could, but like.

• 6:27:25Speaker 05

  It's kinda janky. You're talking to me, dude.

• 6:27:27Matt Farah?

  It's kinda janky. I'm saying it's kinda janky.

• 6:27:30Speaker 05

  At the same time, we don't really, we don't need. Carbon ceramics to go through LA traffic to be first at Cars and Coffee. I would be the guy who's like, hmm, can I, oh yeah, you could put new Corolla rotors on the rear like.

• 6:27:42Speaker 01

  Actually, I wonder if you could find like a rec CTSV that has carbon ceramics and like bolt those up or something like that. Cause now carbon ceramics are so much more.

• 6:27:49Matt Farah?

  I'm sure it's possible, but back in the day, that was the thing was the brakes, particularly the rear brakes of all things. Well, insanely expensive.

• 6:27:58Speaker 05

  Carbon ceramics are crazy. Like my friend had an E63 AMG.

• 6:28:02Matt Farah?

  Oh dude, even, even the steels on E63.

• 6:28:06Speaker 05

  He sold the car because he was like, he's like, I think it's going to need brakes soon and the brakes are more expensive than the car.

• 6:28:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:28:13Speaker 05

  E63 somehow you could buy an E63 with like media mileage on it.

• 6:28:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:28:17Speaker 05

  For like thirteen thousand dollars.

• 6:28:20Matt Farah?

  Dude, we just sold on, on Bring a Trailer an E63 that had steel brakes at fourteen thousand miles.

• 6:28:26Speaker 05

  Whoa.

• 6:28:26Matt Farah?

  And the, I, there was a quote for pads and rotors that I got for that car. And it was at nine thousand dollars. Steel, steel pads and rotors, not ceramics.

• 6:28:40Speaker 05

  What?

• 6:28:41Matt Farah?

  I don't know what the fuck is going on over there.

• 6:28:43Speaker 05

  I feel like it's been done before.

• 6:28:45Matt Farah?

  Holy shit.

• 6:28:46Speaker 05

  But ultimate YouTube, like if I was like a pain YouTuber, uh, and wanted to do the thing you did with like your Bentley.

• 6:28:54Matt Farah?

  Did you say a pain?

• 6:28:55Speaker 05

  Pain YouTuber. You know, like some people like they, they like.

• 6:28:58Matt Farah?

  Where you buy a thing that's not.

• 6:29:00Speaker 05

  Oh, it's gonna be horrible. And then it like, it's a real nightmare and like people watch it.

• 6:29:04Matt Farah?

  The Bentley worked out great, actually.

• 6:29:05Speaker 05

  No, no, no. But I mean, like, aren't there like a bunch of dudes who do that? Like.

• 6:29:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's a thing.

• 6:29:10Speaker 05

  Yeah. But, uh, E60 M5.

• 6:29:13Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:29:15Speaker 05

  V10, individual throttle bodies, like eighty-five hundred RPM. Car that'll never be made again. Yeah. Like that accessible. You could get an SMG one for like 12K.

• 6:29:24Matt Farah?

  Well, there's a very good reason. Yeah, it's a very good reason. The, the, those are the first cars I ever did 200 miles an hour in. When the M5 and M6 came out. Everybody, that, everybody hit 200 for the first time.

• 6:29:37Speaker 05

  No way.

• 6:29:38Matt Farah?

  That car would do 200 miles an hour so easily, we would all go to Ocean Parkway. We fucking hit Ocean Parkway, everybody would go. We'd roll out like 25 of us and we would all be doing.

• 6:29:50Speaker 01

  Four people to a car.

• 6:29:51Matt Farah?

  Two hundred, no, in fucking a whole bunch of V10. When those things came out, everybody had them. They all had the Eisenman headers and the fucking thing would like rattle your brain out of your skull.

• 6:30:03Speaker 01

  They sound insane.

• 6:30:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And fuck, I did, I did 200 in the M5 and I did an M6 convertible manual. I did 200 miles an hour. 200 in a convertible? Yeah, the top up.

• 6:30:14Speaker 05

  We did two, me and Ron did 200 in a RS5?

• 6:30:19Matt Farah?

  Uh, it was a. No way, not a six.

• 6:30:21Speaker 01

  MTM RS5.

• 6:30:22Speaker 05

  It was in Germany.

• 6:30:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, on the Autobahn and we have video of it somewhere.

• 6:30:27Matt Farah?

  So it must have been a 4.2 like supercharged.

• 6:30:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was, it was fully built out, everything, yeah. And that was shocking.

• 6:30:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:30:34Speaker 01

  Like, the car, the car was solid, but every, the world starts acting different around you. Gets very small. Like the way trees behave and other traffic, it's like, whoa, it's a scary thing. The speed at which your brain starts registering things, it's like, it's triple anything else. Cause you start worrying about like, what's that car doing? What's the car doing a mile from now? A mile from now was very important.

• 6:30:55Speaker 05

  It puts it into perspective and I don't want to say this and like encourage people to try to go so fast on the roads. But like you think about F1 and like the speed deltas they do, they'll be like 200 to like 60 on a corner.

• 6:31:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:31:06Speaker 05

  I remember we were on the, we were on the, um, we were on the Autobahn and we hit 300 kilometers. And I was like, oh shit. And then like a car, you see like a car straight like ahead, like pull out. So you gotta start slowing down. And slowing down from that speed, like his distance closes so fast.

• 6:31:21Speaker 01

  I remember we hit the brakes and it felt, it feels like you're braking forever and then you look down and you're still doing.

• 6:31:27Matt Farah?

  Doing 140.

• 6:31:27Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh shit, this is so scary.

• 6:31:29Matt Farah?

  Well, that's why Porsche with their, you know, Porsche tests their brakes from top speed. It's like a whole, it's a whole big thing they do where it's gotta go stop from temp top speed. From, you know, V max to 100K, six times or something. It's like part of their durability.

• 6:31:46Speaker 05

  It's crazy.

• 6:31:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 6:31:47Speaker 05

  Man, V, the, uh, V10 M5 going 200.

• 6:31:50Matt Farah?

  Those cars were so fast.

• 6:31:53Speaker 05

  But they're so cool.

• 6:31:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they are.

• 6:31:55Speaker 05

  Oh my god, it's so awesome.

• 6:31:56Speaker 01

  They require attention.

• 6:31:58Matt Farah?

  Yes. So expensive to maintain. It's kinda worth it, cause like where else can you get a V10 sedan? Nowhere. You can get an S6. Yeah. Uh, or S8 with a Gallardo engine.

• 6:32:10Speaker 05

  What?

• 6:32:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah, 2005. But we're not Brian Scott, so we're not gonna talk about that.

• 6:32:14Speaker 01

  Driving dynamics are terrible.

• 6:32:16Matt Farah?

  No. No, not the Gallardo V10. Gallardo V10.

• 6:32:18Speaker 05

  Whoa, really?

• 6:32:19Matt Farah?

  That's what you want. Yeah, you want that. Yeah, that motor is fucking great. It is. If you're not boosting that motor, it'll last a thousand years.

• 6:32:28Speaker 05

  It probably has like the most slushiest of automatics.

• 6:32:31Matt Farah?

  It has a regular automatic.

• 6:32:32Speaker 01

  And it's a 6-speed automatic, yeah. The balance is gonna be a little bit weird.

• 6:32:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:32:36Speaker 01

  The M5 will be more fun.

• 6:32:37Matt Farah?

  The S, but the S, the S8 with that V10 in it though. God, when was the last time I've even seen one on the road? That S8 was, that V10 was.

• 6:32:46Speaker 05

  Scott has an S8, but it.

• 6:32:47Matt Farah?

  He has a first, a first gen. Yeah, first gen S8. Which those are lovely.

• 6:32:51Speaker 05

  And he bought a V10 for it, but then he never put it in though.

• 6:32:54Matt Farah?

  What a boss move. We'll have to grill him on that if he ever fucking shows up.

• 6:32:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, he bought, he bought the V10. And the best thing is he bought it and he was like, I think it fits right in. And we like look at the engine bay of the V8. And like.

• 6:33:06Matt Farah?

  I think it fits right in.

• 6:33:07Speaker 05

  The last, I'm like, where does it fit? The last cylinder here is like, the crash beam.

• 6:33:12Matt Farah?

  But that's Brian, Brian has a text relationship with a guy in Norway that makes a swap kit on Solom's CNC. And he's like. No, but Uwe did it, you know, four months ago and I can do it now, like it's it's fine. Uwe swears it'll fit.

• 6:33:26Speaker 04

  Weekend, weekend project.

• 6:33:28Matt Farah?

  He hasn't seen daylight in four months, but he's alright, dude.

• 6:33:33Speaker 04

  He's on crazy Finnish vodka.

• 6:33:35Speaker 01

  Alright, you can get, wow, I looked up Audi S6s, there's like, no, no, there's just, I'm looking up cars for Vin. Twenty thousand for, on Autotempest.

• 6:33:44Speaker 05

  You know, Audi did a really good job at making some cars.

• 6:33:47Speaker 01

  Fourteen.

• 6:33:48Speaker 05

  That car has a Giardino engine.

• 6:33:49Matt Farah?

  Bro, seventy-eight hundred dollars.

• 6:33:52Speaker 05

  Wait, that can't, what?

• 6:33:53Matt Farah?

  O7 S6 5.2.

• 6:33:56Speaker 05

  That car could not, that could not look less boring.

• 6:33:59Speaker 01

  Right. It's very boring shape.

• 6:34:01Matt Farah?

  Look at that thing. It would cost you more than seventy-eight hundred to get a V10 crate motor.

• 6:34:06Speaker 04

  Oh, easily.

• 6:34:07Speaker 01

  It'll cost you this much to do like the carbon deposit service on M5.

• 6:34:11Matt Farah?

  That has a Giardino motor in it, yeah.

• 6:34:12Speaker 04

  Zach, can you send me that?

• 6:34:13Matt Farah?

  For seventy-eight hundo, dude.

• 6:34:15Speaker 05

  What the heck?

• 6:34:16Speaker 04

  That's kinda crazy.

• 6:34:17Matt Farah?

  But let's just take a guess, real quick, what does that car smell like? I mean, it is no bueno in there.

• 6:34:26Speaker 04

  I mean, over/under on black ice being in there, you know?

• 6:34:30Speaker 05

  Oh my god. Yo, that's crazy.

• 6:34:31Matt Farah?

  Wait, hold on, zoom in. Wait, wait, wait. No, you can see it. I'm like, what are we looking at?

• 6:34:37Speaker 04

  Air freshener, black ice.

• 6:34:39Matt Farah?

  Oh shit, did you call it?

• 6:34:40Speaker 04

  I can almost guarantee on the front.

• 6:34:43Matt Farah?

  Zoom in on the windshield, the windshield, Zach.

• 6:34:45Speaker 05

  The windshield pick. That is it. It's there.

• 6:34:47Matt Farah?

  Yo, there's a lot of them. It's stacked. Oh dude, I called it. It's so nasty in there.

• 6:34:54Speaker 04

  I told you.

• 6:34:55Matt Farah?

  Oh my god, there's like seven of them.

• 6:34:58Speaker 04

  Luxury sedan, under ten thousand dollars, will have black ice, a hundred percent guaranteed.

• 6:35:03Matt Farah?

  There's a fucking murder in that car.

• 6:35:05Speaker 05

  Yes, because that car is the car that you pack three of your friends in and smoke cigs in with the windows cracked.

• 6:35:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a lot of air fresheners.

• 6:35:12Matt Farah?

  One of my car you garbage questions is, have you ever stacked multiple car air fresheners?

• 6:35:19Speaker 02

  This guy has.

• 6:35:20Matt Farah?

  When I went to Pebble Beach last year, the new Lincolns were beyond display and the new Lincolns are just like the old Lincolns. But they have a giant curved screen across the dash.

• 6:35:28Speaker 02

  Great.

• 6:35:29Matt Farah?

  And they have this new, you know, like 10 years ago, Mercedes put the spa air in the shit. It's an air freshener built in. It's like a fucking.

• 6:35:37Speaker 05

  It's like what you did to like your, your HVAC, your house.

• 6:35:39Matt Farah?

  Scented HVAC. And so the Lincoln, like, would you like to, would you like to try the new Lincoln scent, sir? And I'm looking and they're like, I'm like, what are the scents about? And they're like, well, there's a sandalwood and a this and this. And I say, ma'am, which one would cover up blunts the best? And she goes, oh, I couldn't possibly say this one. This one would, sir.

• 6:35:59Speaker 02

  This one, uh, it's called, this one's called the McConaughey.

• 6:36:04Speaker 05

  What would cover up blunts the best?

• 6:36:06Matt Farah?

  It's definitely this one, sir.

• 6:36:08Speaker 05

  Which one was it? Was it black eyes?

• 6:36:10Speaker 02

  It was.

• 6:36:11Speaker 01

  No, they can't call it that.

• 6:36:12Matt Farah?

  Ain't nobody buying no Lincoln's, my friend. It's, uh, it is, it, oh man, 4:45, we got one hour and 15 minutes of show.

• 6:36:20Speaker 05

  Dude, congrats on a thousand episodes.

• 6:36:22Speaker 02

  You're, you're looking, you're looking spry.

• 6:36:24Matt Farah?

  I feel good. What I need to do is pee. So Zach.

• 6:36:27Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 6:36:28Matt Farah?

  We're gonna do, we need to do the three questions.

• 6:36:30Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 6:36:30Matt Farah?

  For each of them, but we're gonna hold on that until I get back from peeing.

• 6:36:34Speaker 02

  Sounds good.

• 6:36:35Matt Farah?

  You guys continue the vibe.

• 6:36:36Speaker 02

  This is like the seat swap on an endurance race.

• 6:36:38Speaker 01

  Right, exactly. You gotta get yanked out of it. Someone else jumps in like, you pissed in the seat? Like, I couldn't hold it, man.

• 6:36:44Speaker 02

  Listen, that's part of the game, friend.

• 6:36:46Speaker 01

  One of Harris's amazing stories is, uh, he was doing endurance racing and his, the driver before him vomited into the drink tube.

• 6:36:52Speaker 02

  No.

• 6:36:52Speaker 01

  And he didn't know. And so he like, he knew they puked, but he didn't know that.

• 6:36:55Speaker 05

  He barfed?

• 6:36:56Speaker 01

  And I'm stealing his story, but like he, he swept the puke off the seat and he's like, whatever. But then, yeah, mid-drive, he, you know, did a shot of water and tasted someone and then he threw up in the.

• 6:37:06Speaker 05

  I would too.

• 6:37:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, your body, there's no way your body's gonna go.

• 6:37:09Speaker 05

  I gotta say, I, I have a small bladder, always have to pee. And when you go racing, like, you have to stay hydrated. It's hot as hell. Like, you're like, it's pretty demanding. And uh, and um, the hardest part, I think, was you get in your car and then you go sit on like pre-grid and before you start racing, you got like forty minutes.

• 6:37:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's a long time for TV to be ready, for everybody, for all the cars to line up.

• 6:37:35Speaker 05

  You like smash a drink and like some uh, some like electrolytes and stuff before you get in the car and then like

• 6:37:41Speaker 02

  You just gotta go.

• 6:37:42Speaker 05

  You're like, I have to pee.

• 6:37:43Speaker 01

  When you get the nervous pee sometimes.

• 6:37:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, and you're like, you're strapped in, you can't get out of your car, you're like, oh my god, I got like an hour left.

• 6:37:49Speaker 02

  Strapped in with belts, you got comms, you got all this stuff.

• 6:37:54Speaker 05

  See ya, see ya. Yeah, it's, it's like kind of intense and that was like, uh, cause we got thrown right into racing, so like.

• 6:38:01Speaker 02

  Full pro uh, SRO racing.

• 6:38:03Speaker 01

  You guys did a full season together, right?

• 6:38:04Speaker 02

  No, just a handful of races.

• 6:38:05Speaker 05

  We, we shared a car.

• 6:38:07Speaker 01

  We shared a car, right?

• 6:38:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, so we didn't get to, we did one race together though, which was cool.

• 6:38:10Speaker 02

  Cause I got, yeah, I was supposed to race at Barber Motorsports Park and then uh, our team leader, uh, team owner guy, his car set on fire and he was in a championship chase, so I was like, dude, take my car, you gotta win this thing and so I skipped Barber.

• 6:38:27Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 6:38:27Speaker 01

  There it is, skip Barber.

• 6:38:29Speaker 02

  Skip Barber. And uh, and then we both did Indianapolis together.

• 6:38:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:38:33Speaker 01

  Did you do a driver change like after an hour or two?

• 6:38:35Speaker 02

  No, no, we got separate cars.

• 6:38:36Speaker 01

  Oh, sick, you guys have to race wheel to wheel?

• 6:38:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, we had to race each other, yeah.

• 6:38:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:38:40Speaker 01

  You guys draft with each other, like pull each other through, like working like a team, like NASCAR or do you fight?

• 6:38:45Speaker 05

  No, we, but we did, he got second, I got third in one race, which was cool.

• 6:38:48Speaker 02

  What racing are we talking about here? SRO.

• 6:38:50Speaker 05

  Oh, right, like real racing, oh shit. Yeah, I was just talking about how much I had to pee and I was nervous.

• 6:38:55Speaker 02

  Incredible, yeah, cause we were talking about pre-grid, like it's hot as fuck, you're like drinking all this water, electrolytes, everything and then you're on pre-grid for half an hour, forty minutes, waiting for TV, waiting for races and you gotta pee. But then you gotta go battle door to door with all these other guys and you're like, ah.

• 6:39:13Speaker 05

  Racing, racing is so fun, but doing professional racing, um, like took the blinders off and you realize that it's not for people like us, it's for like wealthy people.

• 6:39:24Speaker 02

  One eye opener experience was there was a guy on the Porsche GT3 team and pulls into the pits, doesn't realize that he left the car in fourth gear, goes up on air jacks, right, they swap the tires, everything.

• 6:39:38Speaker 05

  Back down.

• 6:39:41Speaker 05

  Smokes the clutch. Immediate ninety thousand dollar mistake. Because they had to fly another one in from somewhere else, the part, the labor, the everything.

• 6:39:50Matt Farah?

  Just like whatever.

• 6:39:52Speaker 05

  But we had a really lucky situation. So we raced with Hyundai and Hyundai had like a kind of handshake deal with us where they were like, we will cover any damages to your car as long as it's not negligence.

• 6:40:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:40:04Speaker 05

  And we were like, okay, cool. And like, we're pretty responsible. Like, we're good drivers. We're very aware. We're gonna be good. Like, no problem. So that was cool. But there was a kid on our team who, my first race was at Road America, super fast, super scary, and it was wet, but you were still on slicks. Yeah. So you weren't on rain.

• 6:40:21Matt Farah?

  Damn.

• 6:40:22Speaker 05

  It was just damp.

• 6:40:23Speaker 01

  No interest, right?

• 6:40:24Matt Farah?

  Road America damp is a big yikes.

• 6:40:26Speaker 05

  I was so scared. I wanted to like cry the whole time. Oh my goodness.

• 6:40:30Matt Farah?

  I had a snow delay there once.

• 6:40:32Speaker 05

  Oh, god. So this kid, this kid on my team during practice goes a little too hard in the kink, goes off, scrubs aside of the car up against the wall, eleven thousand dollars in damage. And that they have to fix. So it's like new hubs, new wheels, new tires, suspension parts, whatever, right? And they do it.

• 6:40:50Matt Farah?

  Not negligence.

• 6:40:51Speaker 05

  Not that, no, no, this is, this is separate. But he was a full customer driver, yeah. So customer program, he said they have to pay for it. The dude, Alex Phelps, out there in the rain, wrenching on the car. Hero, absolute hero. Thunderstorm pouring. He's just sitting in a puddle. He's like, I'm already wet. Fixing the car. Next day, first race, uh, an M four, M two. M two. Spins out in front of him and he fucking T-bones it. Totals right off the car. You guys were like five laps in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we did fifteen minutes of, uh, of yellow flag. Totals the car. That guy's weekend was a hundred thousand dollars in damage. And his dad.

• 6:41:30Speaker 01

  On a Hyundai. And he is.

• 6:41:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:41:31Speaker 01

  A hundred thousand dollar Hyundai.

• 6:41:32Speaker 05

  Yeah. And Jeff Rick, uh, the, the team owner, he's like, look, I'm, I helped them out, like, cause I'll, I'll reuse a lot of the parts and stuff, but they have to cover the damages to the car. It was like a hundred thousand dollar weekend. And the dude, like, the dude's upset and his dad's just like, that's racing. And I'm like, imagine having a hundred thousand dollar weekend.

• 6:41:50Matt Farah?

  Be like, yeah, well, you know.

• 6:41:51Speaker 05

  So that paired with like the clutch thing of the GT three or like.

• 6:41:56Speaker 05

  Like, I can't ever go professional racing.

• 6:41:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:41:59Speaker 05

  The one dude at Road America blew out a tire on his GT3 car. It ripped up the fender liner.

• 6:42:04Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 6:42:04Speaker 05

  And all the sensors. 60K. You're like, imagine having a blowout. Like, you're just like, dude, I got a free seat. In a GT3. And you go, you get a blowout, you have to spend 60 grand. I'd be like...

• 6:42:16Speaker 02

  But the caliber of person is so different because I was at VIR and getting ready to race, there was a whole setup. Like, everybody's in the paddock. And on race day, the trailer behind us just starts getting broken down. Everybody starts leaving. Like, cars getting loaded up, going in the trailer. We're like, dude, what's going on? We're about to race. Because one of the teams is fully packing up. Oh, that guy? Oh, he's the owner of CrowdStrike, you know? They're having that kind of huge problem right now. That was that weekend. I probably shouldn't be racing this weekend.

• 6:42:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, I can't be seen here.

• 6:42:52Speaker 02

  I was like, oh, okay, that's who I'm sharing space with.

• 6:42:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:42:56Speaker 02

  That makes sense.

• 6:42:57Speaker 01

  So CrowdStrike, they sponsor a lot of the F1 teams. And like, speaking of bad moments, did you guys, I don't know if you guys watched it, but the first race of the season, this guy, what's his name, Duhon, he's like 17 and a half. His first race ever, I think he crashes on the formation lap in the rain.

• 6:43:11Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 6:43:12Speaker 01

  And he just stood by the side and cried, which I, like, I would do the same thing. Talk about a very expensive day with zero laps covered. Just the absolute worst.

• 6:43:21Speaker 05

  Yeah. Rain is, driving in the rain is hard. I know some people love it, but I hate it. I had to race in mid-Ohio in the rain once. It was the scariest experience of my life. The place is a fucking ice track.

• 6:43:32Speaker 02

  What car?

• 6:43:32Speaker 05

  Yeah. This was in a Miata. It wasn't even like... It's still scary, though, because it's so unpredictable. I don't know. Yeah, I hate it.

• 6:43:40Speaker 01

  Are you guys doing any racing this year at all? Like, even like Champ Car or something?

• 6:43:44Speaker 02

  Part of me is gonna be like, well, we're focusing on our brand, but no, it's so hard.

• 6:43:48Speaker 01

  And what's the brand called, Ron?

• 6:43:49Speaker 02

  No, that is driver's era. But yeah, it's so hard to get any kind of racing deal.

• 6:43:54Speaker 05

  We were really fortunate with Hyundai, because they were like willing to hook us up, but it's like, yeah, I mean, it's hard to get into professional racing.

• 6:44:00Speaker 02

  It's a full-time job just to get the seat.

• 6:44:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:44:03Speaker 02

  You know? Let alone, you know, learn the tracks and be fast and everything. So, no racing for us. This year.

• 6:44:08Matt Farah?

  Well, like, once the racing actually went down, once you're in the car and you're fucking racing.

• 6:44:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:44:14Matt Farah?

  Did you find that, cause actually, all, all three of us are, are pretty fairly close in.

• 6:44:22Speaker 05

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna give, I'm gonna give Matt some, I'm gonna give Matt a, uh, big ups here.

• 6:44:27Matt Farah?

  I beat you both.

• 6:44:28Speaker 05

  All of us had autocross.

• 6:44:30Matt Farah?

  Listen, that was conditional.

• 6:44:32Speaker 05

  Matt, that was conditional.

• 6:44:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah, conditional him being better than us. Conditional him winning.

• 6:44:36Speaker 02

  Absolutely not.

• 6:44:36Matt Farah?

  I was more, more weight over the axle. I wasn't gonna say it. Oh, did you hear that? Ironic five N, I did beat everybody.

• 6:44:42Speaker 02

  He did, he smoked us.

• 6:44:44Matt Farah?

  No, we were, that was a launch red.

• 6:44:45Speaker 02

  I was personally crushed.

• 6:44:46Matt Farah?

  The, it was Ironic five N launch, but we were autocrossing a launch red.

• 6:44:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 6:44:51Speaker 05

  I didn't know Matt had it like that.

• 6:44:53Matt Farah?

  I may have, I may have won.

• 6:44:54Speaker 02

  You were fast.

• 6:44:55Matt Farah?

  But, but no, but that's not the point. That's not what I was getting at.

• 6:44:57Speaker 05

  Yes, it was.

• 6:44:57Matt Farah?

  The point, that's not the point. It's not the point. The point was, like, cause I'm, cause like, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, we're, we're all like, we're all pretty good. Yeah. We've had a lot of practice, but we're not like pro racing drivers.

• 6:45:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:45:12Matt Farah?

  So, so you're now in a pro racing car. We're about the same.

• 6:45:16Speaker 02

  We were mid.

• 6:45:16Matt Farah?

  I did win, but we were close. It was tense.

• 6:45:18Speaker 05

  We were mid pack pounders, is what we called ourselves.

• 6:45:21Matt Farah?

  Okay, fine. So when you, so now you're in the race, what's happening in the race car? Are, are you, are you, do you feel like you deserve to be there once the race starts?

• 6:45:30Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 6:45:31Speaker 02

  You have to, cause otherwise, if you're not fully committed, like, the car doesn't work right, like, you're not, you, you will crash if you're not driving confidently. If you're timid on corner entry, someone's gonna plow into the back of you. Like, you have to commit to corners at full throttle.

• 6:45:47Speaker 05

  No, but I think, I think we both did really well. So Ron is, it's funny, cause when we did the race, uh, together, Ron's like half a second a lap faster than me. But we both did well. We both, uh, podiumed at one race and we both, in our first race, we got, we both won the same award.

• 6:46:02Speaker 02

  Hard charger.

• 6:46:03Matt Farah?

  Hard charger.

• 6:46:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:46:04Matt Farah?

  That's right. Well, that's fucking great. Most aggressive.

• 6:46:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:46:07Speaker 02

  Most passes.

• 6:46:08Speaker 05

  No, most positions in the back, which is cool. So, we both won awards, like, but we're like solid mid pack, like third, fourth, fifth, based on.

• 6:46:17Matt Farah?

  And you just like, you just started doing this. If you actually were able to financially sustain a season. It was Jeff Ricca. Crush people.

• 6:46:26Speaker 05

  But it was funny, cause, cause Jeff.

• 6:46:27Speaker 02

  A little higher.

• 6:46:28Speaker 05

  Jeff Ricca and, who was the other guy?

• 6:46:31Speaker 02

  Ruben?

• 6:46:31Speaker 05

  Mini.

• 6:46:32Speaker 02

  Christian Pericarpie.

• 6:46:34Speaker 05

  They were clearly in a different race than us. Jeff and Pericarpie, they were like, like a second and a half faster every lap. So they were in their own race.

• 6:46:47Speaker 02

  And that's the crazy thing too, even if they were three tenths faster per one lap, in 45 minutes, that's a lifetime.

• 6:46:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:46:54Speaker 02

  That's a lifetime.

• 6:46:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, Ron was half a second faster than me at Indy. And we started and every lap was just like half a second. Yeah. And by the end of it, he was like the straightaway ahead. And I was like, I couldn't do anything because our lap times were like literally always like a half second.

• 6:47:09Speaker 02

  Consistency and everything, it's so gnarly.

• 6:47:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:47:12Speaker 02

  You need so much seat time, so much confidence in the car. Yeah.

• 6:47:16Matt Farah?

  But it does seem like a lot of fun.

• 6:47:17Speaker 05

  The scariest part about racing is lap one of your first race.

• 6:47:21Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:47:21Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 6:47:22Speaker 05

  Lap one, turn one, you have no idea what to expect. And you're going into this turn with like 30 cars around you and you're just like.

• 6:47:29Speaker 02

  You gotta pee.

• 6:47:30Speaker 05

  Uh, yeah. I don't know what's. You're like, just don't crash, just don't crash.

• 6:47:34Matt Farah?

  And even if you're like endurance race, yeah, like just don't crash.

• 6:47:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:47:38Matt Farah?

  Like, there's four cars around you, one of them is a moron.

• 6:47:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:47:43Matt Farah?

  And thinks this is the last lap.

• 6:47:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. Not only that, but like when you're not that experienced, going from 100% commitment to like 90 or even 85.

• 6:47:54Speaker 05

  True.

• 6:47:55Speaker 02

  That's actually way harder than always going flat out.

• 6:47:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:47:58Speaker 02

  The really, really good guys can always drive at 95 and then bring it up to 100.

• 6:48:02Speaker 01

  I'm always impressed by that, like they can manage tires just below.

• 6:48:05Matt Farah?

  95, but never at 100.

• 6:48:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:48:08Matt Farah?

  I don't have the last five and that's why I'll never be great.

• 6:48:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:48:12Matt Farah?

  But I'm 95 all the time consistent.

• 6:48:15Speaker 02

  And you can stay on it.

• 6:48:15Matt Farah?

  And that's why I'm a great teammate on an endurance team. I'll bring the car home and I'll put fucking 50 in a row that are within a couple tenths of each.

• 6:48:24Speaker 05

  Dude, that's really impressive. I feel the same, like I could do a team endurance and be a good teammate, but I'm not the, I'm not the winner.

• 6:48:31Matt Farah?

  Well, maybe we should have a race car.

• 6:48:33Speaker 05

  And then I remember like.

• 6:48:35Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 6:48:35Speaker 05

  I, I don't like being.

• 6:48:36Speaker 02

  I think we should.

• 6:48:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm down.

• 6:48:38Speaker 02

  Let's do it.

• 6:48:38Matt Farah?

  Who has a race car already sitting around?

• 6:48:40Speaker 05

  My friend Pat.

• 6:48:41Matt Farah?

  One of you has an extra car.

• 6:48:42Speaker 02

  No, my friends, the people we know.

• 6:48:44Speaker 05

  I feel like we could find something.

• 6:48:45Matt Farah?

  Yo, not someone.

• 6:48:46Speaker 05

  There's a NASCAR in the garage here. Pat has a, my friend Pat has an E36 M3 with an S54. That's set up for endurance racing.

• 6:48:53Speaker 01

  Perfecto.

• 6:48:54Speaker 05

  I think, I think that's amazing.

• 6:48:54Matt Farah?

  That's, that's a good idea.

• 6:48:56Speaker 05

  That's a good idea.

• 6:48:56Matt Farah?

  Let's go quarters.

• 6:48:57Speaker 01

  I know how to fix it.

• 6:48:58Speaker 05

  No. Man, I'm not competitive enough for racing because I, I don't know if like there's something in me that doesn't like to win.

• 6:49:05Matt Farah?

  No, you, you choose life.

• 6:49:07Speaker 05

  When.

• 6:49:07Matt Farah?

  You choose.

• 6:49:08Speaker 05

  No.

• 6:49:09Speaker 01

  Natural loser.

• 6:49:10Speaker 05

  I, I automatically.

• 6:49:11Matt Farah?

  Comes down to it.

• 6:49:12Speaker 01

  Like all the teachers said.

• 6:49:14Matt Farah?

  You have something to live for.

• 6:49:15Speaker 05

  No, it's not that. When I have someone behind me, I'm like, I'm almost like, man, if they're this close, I should just let them buy.

• 6:49:22Speaker 01

  Oh, I feel that. I totally feel that.

• 6:49:25Matt Farah?

  You know? It's like, ah, they're already on my bumper.

• 6:49:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, like they might pass me. Yeah.

• 6:49:29Matt Farah?

  So. That does work in endurance racing. In endurance racing, that's like, fine. It's actually, it's actually better to just let them go than to waste your time racing.

• 6:49:36Speaker 05

  I, I made a lot of passes and then holding people off, like I, I'm bad at the pressure of having people behind me.

• 6:49:42Matt Farah?

  You're like, ah, I feel bad. Am I in your way?

• 6:49:44Speaker 05

  I rode America. I remember.

• 6:49:45Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, my bad.

• 6:49:46Speaker 05

  I passed this dude and I was like, I think I passed him into fourth place. I was like, hell yeah. Three corners, going into the front straight, four off in the grass.

• 6:49:57Speaker 05

  But then I ended up passing him again, but I was like so disappointed in myself.

• 6:50:01Matt Farah?

  Oh my god.

• 6:50:01Speaker 05

  I remember being on the radio, it's on the comms. I was like, how many laps do I have left? Like after I passed him again, I was like, how many laps? He's like, 18 minutes. I was like, oh my god, I have to keep this together for 18 minutes.

• 6:50:11Speaker 01

  And that, cause then you know you're faster than him, but when he's behind you, the psychology fucks you up and it feels bad.

• 6:50:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 6:50:18Matt Farah?

  Um, Vin, I'm gonna kick you out. I want you to send in Larry Chen, please.

• 6:50:22Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 6:50:22Matt Farah?

  I want five minutes with Ron.

• 6:50:24Speaker 05

  There we go. In five minutes?

• 6:50:25Matt Farah?

  Huh?

• 6:50:26Speaker 05

  In five minutes?

• 6:50:26Matt Farah?

  No, no, send him in now, but then, but, but, but we need, but we need, but you get kicked out first is what I'm saying. We love you. Thank you for coming.

• 6:50:34Speaker 05

  Love you, Vin.

• 6:50:34Matt Farah?

  Thank you for coming. You guys are the best. We really appreciate it.

• 6:50:37Speaker 05

  Thank you for having us. It's awesome to be here.

• 6:50:38Matt Farah?

  We'll be done with this in, we'll be done with this in an hour and three minutes. Keep drinking. What's happening in Ron world? We got, we got, we got sucked down into Vinny world. What's happening in Ron world?

• 6:50:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, you know, it, it's always like a background thing for me and even at Hoonigan, like I had the opportunity to be on camera a lot and honestly, the perks that come with building cars and doing all the things was nice, but I always really enjoy building marketing campaigns, building other people's stories, building brands. So that's kind of what I kept doing. Um, you know, after leaving Hoonigan, we started working with, uh, Lea Block, the, you know.

• 6:51:10Speaker 03

  Ken's family, everything. So it's a lot of that, a lot of helping people build their stories, build their brands. And then drivers era too, you know, it's like, starting from ground zero again on a clothing brand. It's like, well, you know, what blanks are we using? Where are we? Who's our designer? Where are we making this stuff? So it's a lot of like, building that back up now in the background.

• 6:51:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Do you like the clothing business?

• 6:51:37Speaker 03

  Uh, I do.

• 6:51:39Matt Farah?

  It's a hard, it's a hard business.

• 6:51:40Speaker 03

  It's a really hard business. Yeah, yeah. I like it. I like it now because it's never been easier to get into it. It's so unbelievably easy to get on Shopify, start a site, get a design, get fulfillment, everything. Right. But because of that, you have to be so much more creative. So now it's about story. Now it's about how cool of a brand you have versus back in the day. Your brand didn't even have to be that amazing. If you had great distribution, if you knew the right people, you could have a brand.

• 6:52:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:52:09Speaker 03

  So it is a really interesting time for that right now.

• 6:52:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Cool. I want to circle back, but I know Larry Chen has to go and he wanted to come back in.

• 6:52:16Speaker 03

  What's up Larry? I just want to mention how many endless hours we've spent together in the trenches, Ron and I. Yeah, track side and everything. Suffering. Really. Just getting pelted by Ken Block's machine gun rally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was insane. I mean, I got to shoot photography alongside the illustrious Larry Chen. Oh geez. For so long. No, it's when I, when I first started in my career. And one of you is publishing a photography book? Oh, come on. I tried to publish a book a while ago. Monetarily didn't make sense. Congrats on that, by the way. Thank you, thank you. But yeah, we've spent so much time together and you know, we always are, like, people ask me,

• 6:52:58Speaker 03

  who inspire me as photographers? It's honestly my peers, you know, it's, it's like.

• 6:53:04Matt Farah?

  Ron has this really famous photo of Ken from a helicopter in Raleigh, New Zealand.

• 6:53:09Speaker 03

  Raleigh, New Zealand, yeah.

• 6:53:10Matt Farah?

  And he's just spitting flames and it's just like a perfect top-down shot. I remember that photo. It's a great photo. And I commented on Ron's picture when he posted it. I was like, "You won the year." Like, "You won 2015," or whatever the year was.

• 6:53:22Speaker 03

  That comment made my life.

• 6:53:24Matt Farah?

  And I could just...

• 6:53:25Speaker 03

  I was like, "Larry Chen."

• 6:53:26Matt Farah?

  I could just picture Ken and Scotto and you guys and Matt all together in one. And like, "Oh, did you see what Larry said? You won 2015." Like, "You won the year."

• 6:53:37Speaker 03

  We weren't really looking at Instagram comments at the time. Inside, I was fangirling super hard. But we had known each other for so long before that, but... Yeah, the Pierce thing is really interesting, because I love that. Like, that's what drives you.

• 6:53:48Matt Farah?

  We push each other.

• 6:53:49Speaker 01

  I didn't realize you shot photos like that, Ron. I was trying to be a dick earlier, but you actually...

• 6:53:53Matt Farah?

  I'll tell you right now, yeah, that's it. That's it. That photo, yeah. How could you compete against that? Oh, God, is that fabulous. How cool is that? It's not even the car. Such a great shot. You, like, look how small the car is. It's actually the green and the treetops, I think, more than anything else that doesn't...

• 6:54:09Speaker 03

  Jurassic Park.

• 6:54:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's got a fucking vibe to it, man. He's just pushing so hard. Was I right about the... 2017. 2017, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 6:54:17Speaker 03

  Now, the funny thing about that is, uh, I almost...

• 6:54:19Matt Farah?

  Oh, no, no, no, sorry. This, Ken posted this, sorry. This was Google leading us wrong. Yeah, 2015, so I was right. The rally was 2015, yeah, yeah.

• 6:54:26Speaker 03

  I almost lost my life, uh, 10 minutes after this.

• 6:54:30Matt Farah?

  I mean, I mean, was that with a drone or what?

• 6:54:32Speaker 03

  No, I was in a Robinson R44.

• 6:54:34Matt Farah?

  Get the fuck out of there. You shot that out of a helicopter? That's why. Oh, that's sick. That's even sicker. I didn't know that.

• 6:54:40Speaker 03

  That was that pilot's first time chasing rally in a helicopter. That's why I almost died.

• 6:54:44Matt Farah?

  I love doing things when it's a pilot's first time doing something. That's like mad confidence inspiring.

• 6:54:49Speaker 03

  So confident. So we get in and he's like, "All right, mate, you know, I've been doing this for a while, but, you know, if you see a power line, and I may not be looking, say something."

• 6:54:59Matt Farah?

  Oh, my God. Sorry.

• 6:55:01Speaker 03

  All right.

• 6:55:02Matt Farah?

  What?

• 6:55:02Speaker 03

  So, he's like getting super into it. I'm like, "All right, yeah, he's going this way, he's going left," and he's like chasing the thing. He's like having fun as a pilot, chasing...

• 6:55:11Matt Farah?

  Yanking and banking, as it were.

• 6:55:12Speaker 03

  Yanking and banking, and then, uh, I'm like, I look up and I see a power line. And he's not looking. He's having a good old time chasing rally cars.

• 6:55:20Matt Farah?

  He's in the mist, yeah.

• 6:55:21Speaker 03

  He's in the mist. And I'm like, "Hey, uh, there's a power line." He's like, "Oh, fuck, yep, right, mate," and then pulls up. Shee out, I'm like, oh my god. Yeah. Oh my god.

• 6:55:31Matt Farah?

  Life-changing experience.

• 6:55:32Speaker 03

  That's happened to me twice in Baja.

• 6:55:34Matt Farah?

  Crazy.

• 6:55:35Speaker 03

  And that's why I quit.

• 6:55:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, I think you told us that story last time on the show, yeah, yeah. Matt Johnston, he videographer, phenomenal dude. He told me once, he's like, one of the number one ways for media guys to die is in helicopters. Yeah, of course. Super sketchy.

• 6:55:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, geez. That's why drones are so popular.

• 6:55:55Matt Farah?

  What's the what? What's the next one? Uh, I mean, death by snacks.

• 6:56:00Matt Farah?

  Cardiac, cardiac.

• 6:56:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, cardiac arrest.

• 6:56:02Matt Farah?

  Seventy taquitos down, you know, in Baja. Third, standing next to a rally car. Yes. Yeah, right.

• 6:56:08Speaker 03

  The, really, the thing that, that, um, just to bring that up again about pushing each other. I've never pushed so hard in my life. Versus, like, shooting other things, great, you know, we push hard all the time, but shooting with Ken, I've never ever pushed myself physically and mentally so hard. Because I know, I know I'm shooting with people that produce.

• 6:56:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:56:33Speaker 03

  You know, we're doing this thing that's so important. You know, my job oftentimes when I was on the set of Gymkhana was to get that thumbnail shot.

• 6:56:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:56:42Speaker 03

  And think about it, that's the first thing that somebody sees. That's the thing that gets people to click on this thing.

• 6:56:48Matt Farah?

  For sure, yeah.

• 6:56:49Speaker 03

  And so, we had meetings about it, I had meetings with Scott about it, and he's like, okay, well, here's the moments that you may get your thumbnail shot. I'm like, okay, all right, I take it to heart, you know, because that's the whole reason why I'm there. I could just be, I could be, uh, somewhere else the entire time, if I just show up for that one thing, then it made it worth it, you know?

• 6:57:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 6:57:08Speaker 03

  But with that said, I still try and try thousands of attempts to get that one shot that is iconic, that will get people to click on this video.

• 6:57:18Matt Farah?

  And the difference being, I always would tell people that were new to shooting Gymkhana, I was like, this, think about this as more of a skate video than a car video. Because he's going for this crazy thing, and like, in a skate video, sometimes you only have one chance to get a shot. Because if they land that trick, that's done, no more attempts. That's the best he's gonna get at that. So sometimes, we would show up to a location, Pike's Peak.

• 6:57:42Speaker 02

  The first pass, not impressive at all. The second one, cars hanging off the edge of the mountain. That's it. That's the take. If you guys didn't get it, tough for you because we're moving on.

• 6:57:53Speaker 01

  But I like the BTS you guys did on that stuff too, where you either Scott or someone would be talking, or maybe even Ken himself, and they'd be like, "I think I can do that deeper, better, more sideways." You can just make it look cooler.

• 6:58:02Speaker 02

  And that's judging that moment, right? Like, how sketchy is it versus, do we have the shot? Should we push more?

• 6:58:09Matt Farah?

  When we first started making videos in 2006, the year that YouTube launched.

• 6:58:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 6:58:15Matt Farah?

  We started making videos three months after YouTube launched. It was me and Tom Morningstar. And we had our driving club, that we would go down fucking Ocean Parkway, 5 o'clock in the morning, be ripping it, like, you know, just the shit that's pretty normal now.

• 6:58:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:58:30Matt Farah?

  But in 05, that 06, that was like kind of a novel thing.

• 6:58:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:58:35Matt Farah?

  And Tom Morningstar was a skate videographer. Like, that's what he would do.

• 6:58:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:58:41Matt Farah?

  And our early videos, which are still on the internet, and they're like 240p.

• 6:58:46Speaker 02

  Sick.

• 6:58:46Matt Farah?

  And they're, we should pull one up, youtube.com/newyorkmotorclub, just written out. They look like skate videos. And they're so old, that they predate, um, DMCA.

• 6:59:00Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 6:59:01Matt Farah?

  And so we have like Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots on, and they can't be taken down.

• 6:59:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:59:08Matt Farah?

  They predate the law. Here's my first YouTube channel.

• 6:59:12Speaker 01

  Wow, 207 subscribers.

• 6:59:14Matt Farah?

  Click on more about this channel. What year was it created? 18 years ago.

• 6:59:18Speaker 01

  22 videos.

• 6:59:19Matt Farah?

  22 videos. It was created, joined December 8th, 2006. That was my first YouTube video.

• 6:59:25Speaker 02

  Super ahead of the game.

• 6:59:28Speaker 02

  That even predates the blog era.

• 6:59:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 6:59:31Speaker 02

  Really, in a big way.

• 6:59:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, this was like 6 months or less after YouTube started. So if you pull up, uh, oh man, there's, I don't know, I guess we could play these. What's anyone gonna do? They all have 100 views.

• 6:59:45Speaker 02

  Statute of limitations is out on that one.

• 6:59:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I guess, dude, just, I don't know, at New York Motor Club, Toys for Tots charity run, 600 views.

• 6:59:55Speaker 04

  With the gold Ferrari at the bottom, is that Vin?

• 6:59:58Matt Farah?

  That's probably his car, man. Shit, dude, Ferrari chat run, dude, this was all just...

• 7:00:03Speaker 04

  That's so cool.

• 7:00:04Matt Farah?

  This is all, the original one, okay, the very first video we made is the fall foliage run video.

• 7:00:12Speaker 04

  I'm looking at that shot.

• 7:00:13Matt Farah?

  We hired an actual helicopter to shoot that.

• 7:00:15Speaker 04

  No way.

• 7:00:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, we, we, we, we spent, this was very bad, this was very stupid, no one should ever do this. We had like a drive, like a group drive, and we watched this video, we literally, this was a pitch for a reality show that me and Larry Casilla were gonna do, this was the sizzle reel, and we hired an actual helicopter to shoot this, the footage is quite beautiful, that Lamborghini Diablo had a wet fogger nitrous system on it.

• 7:00:43Speaker 04

  That's so of the era, by the way, that mod on that car, nobody would do that now.

• 7:00:49Matt Farah?

  Did you just pass the spray?

• 7:00:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:00:51Matt Farah?

  Go back to the squirt.

• 7:00:52Speaker 01

  He sprays above the wing.

• 7:00:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he sprayed, watch the squirt.

• 7:00:54Speaker 04

  Oh, the purge?

• 7:00:55Matt Farah?

  Watch the purge, ready?

• 7:00:56Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 7:00:57Matt Farah?

  Ahhh, that's so good. So...

• 7:01:02Speaker 01

  This footage looks great for 2006, honestly.

• 7:01:04Matt Farah?

  This was, yeah, 2006.

• 7:01:06Speaker 04

  But at the same time, just feels so nostalgic.

• 7:01:08Matt Farah?

  But these aerials, that's the Bear Mountain Bridge with an actual helicopter.

• 7:01:14Matt Farah?

  I cannot believe we spent all the money on this.

• 7:01:16Speaker 04

  This is, honestly, I'm impressed.

• 7:01:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah, not bad for 5,500 views.

• 7:01:22Speaker 04

  I feel like I should be seeing a Techademics logo.

• 7:01:25Matt Farah?

  Oh my god, no, this is the same shit, dude, this is the same shit, 100%, that's Larry in the 4GT, fucking mobbing. Yeah, that was our first ever video, what's the date on that, Zach?

• 7:01:38Speaker 01

  18 years ago, so, 2007?

• 7:01:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah, December, December 06.

• 7:01:44Speaker 04

  It'll show you the actual date.

• 7:01:45Matt Farah?

  December 06, December 9, 06, yeah, there we go, nine comments, let's read the comments, just out of curiosity. Helicopter.

• 7:01:55Speaker 01

  Most, most ago.

• 7:01:56Matt Farah?

  Seven days ago, seven days ago, someone commented on this, here from Road to Success.

• 7:02:02Speaker 01

  Three weeks ago.

• 7:02:03Matt Farah?

  That is super cool. Oh, I guess I did somebody's podcast, I don't remember.

• 7:02:08Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 7:02:09Speaker 06

  Larry looks like old Boomhauer.

• 7:02:11Matt Farah?

  Old Boomhauer, yeah! Wow, there we go.

• 7:02:15Speaker 06

  Wow, see, you've been doing the thing for quite some time.

• 7:02:18Matt Farah?

  So fucking long, bro.

• 7:02:20Speaker 06

  That's amazing.

• 7:02:20Matt Farah?

  So long. What is the resolution of this video, Zach, before you close it out? Is it 280, 240p? Yep.

• 7:02:26Speaker 06

  Yep, automatic.

• 7:02:27Matt Farah?

  Potato cam. Dude, it was like a, it was on a shoulder, dude, it was on tape.

• 7:02:32Speaker 06

  That's so sick.

• 7:02:33Matt Farah?

  Do you know what it, so the chopper was one thing.

• 7:02:36Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 7:02:37Matt Farah?

  And then, they scammed us. The people doing the chopper footage scammed us. Because they gave us a bill and they go, here's how much it's gonna be to do the chopper and get the footage. And then they finish and they go, oh, well, this is in Cinema Vertex 5, uh, format. You're gonna need to transcode that. That's gonna be fifteen thousand, fifteen thousand dollars. And they scammed us out of fifteen grand to transcode the footage that they never mentioned would be completely unusable.

• 7:03:08Speaker 06

  Cause that's holding the footage hostage. You know, that kinda goes back to the thing, it's also never been easier to make media now.

• 7:03:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:03:15Speaker 06

  So you have, like, man, when we started doing videos for Ken, again, going back to the blog era. I started working for Ken in 2010. And we were like, hey, we should, we should put a little bit of focus on to the Facebook page. And he's like, as long as it doesn't get in the way of the blog. And I remember that line forever. And then Facebook became king. And we were doing video content on there, and then Instagram, and then YouTube and all that, but...

• 7:03:40Matt Farah?

  But that whole video that I just showed you, with, that involved a helicopter and transcoding and all this other shit. Dude, one well-equipped and talented dude with a drone and some GoPros.

• 7:03:54Speaker 06

  And a phone.

• 7:03:54Matt Farah?

  And a phone could make that video today.

• 7:03:57Speaker 06

  Easily.

• 7:03:57Matt Farah?

  Eighteen years ago, right?

• 7:03:59Speaker 06

  And that's the cool thing about where media's at today.

• 7:04:01Matt Farah?

  I actually wrote a question for Larry Chen. I wrote, in, in terms of things to talk about, I wrote a question that's just for Larry Chen. I'm gonna read it, even though I, I probably shouldn't need to read it, but I just wanna... I'm curious now, this is...

• 7:04:14Speaker 06

  I can't wait, I'm excited.

• 7:04:15Matt Farah?

  Uh, number 26. A 21-year-old kid approaches you at a car meet and says, "I want to be you." What do you tell them? It's so funny, I, there's this video that keeps coming up. Um, I did a race... Recently and I was in my race suit, I was about to do my stint. And this kid comes up to me and he just like sticks a phone in my face. And it just starts asking me questions, um, not rudely or anything, you know, it was just like a thing. Uh, and I was like, okay, uh, I just took it. Just like how I always take the one on one interaction, so important to me, right?

• 7:04:56Matt Farah?

  This may be the only time, who knows, that this person gets to see me in their lifetime, right? So I always think, and, and I learned a lot that from Ken, right, too, because he doesn't blow off. Bunch of fans or whatever, he's always there trying to spend as much time as he can with the fans. And I just think to myself, like, I gotta make this count every time. And I answered the questions and a lot of the questions were basically. Something that, yeah, I get it all the time as well, yeah, yeah. I asked, answered them as best as I could. And then, uh, like a month later, he publishes it and I keep getting tagged in it every single day. Yeah, you've seen it, in my race suit, I'm like. Amped to get in the car, you know? You're on a completely different mindset. Yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't even there. Yeah, you're trying to survive on a racetrack.

• 7:05:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I haven't had a camera in my hand in 24 hours or whatever, you know? Yeah, that's so long. I know, exactly, so with that said, um, really, it just comes down to, I know. You guys will all agree on my answer for this. It comes down to shoot what you love, do what you love. If you think about the money, if you worry about the money, it's not right for you, it's just not. Yeah. It's not right, yeah, of course, you have to be able to make a living, that's fine, but. Don't think about that upfront. Yeah. You just can't, if you don't love this thing, people, people always. Uh, comment and always talk about like, how is it that Larry gets surprised?

• 7:06:24Matt Farah?

  At these builds or what he's uncovering or like, how is it that? He's like, oh, this is the greatest thing ever, all the time, well, because it is, it really is. Like, I really do genuinely get surprised.

• 7:06:37Speaker 03

  That how ingenious these people are to be able to do what they love, what they care about, the hoops they jump through. And it doesn't always have to be like as big budget as a Gymkhana or a high dollar supercar build or whatever. It could be the backyard builder. It could be.

• 7:06:56Matt Farah?

  Sometimes that's more relatable and it's way, way more interesting sometimes.

• 7:07:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, so it really just comes down to that. And it takes dedication and time. Just as you know, we're on the 1,000th episode. You know, I've been shooting for 20 years and you've been doing this for over 20 years also. And it just takes dedication. It's not the overnight success story. Although maybe for those individuals, a lot of times they ask, hey, what is overnight success story? Or how is it that we can get into it quicker? Yeah, maybe there are those times.

• 7:07:30Matt Farah?

  I mean, you can with like luck. Absolutely. Luck and perseverance. Luck always comes into play. Perseverance usually leads to luck, right? You do enough of something, sooner or later, you're going to be in a position where something's going to happen that's lucky. And if you notice it and make a move, then you're in the game, right? But that's, that's luck. It's the, but it's, it's, it's, it's an odds game, right? You keep, you just keep going and eventually something happens. I feel like success, uh, a lot of times is like a, a T88 turbo on a Mark IV Supra.

• 7:08:06Matt Farah?

  When you're starting out low in the ref band, you're mad, you're all the way to the floor and nothing's happening. You're like, God, I've been full throttle for so long. Gosh, I, I might as well just, I might as well just get out of it right now. I've been trying so hard and nothing's happening. And then all of a sudden, fifth gear from idle, something happens. You hit 7,500 RPM because that turbo's horrible. And then and all the opportunities start coming and everything and all these people start emailing you and calling you and all that stuff. Because you've been building boost for so long, you've been doing all that stuff, that then you can capitalize on it finally.

• 7:08:43Speaker 03

  Use the countersteer and focus.

• 7:08:45Matt Farah?

  That's my terrible streetfire.net analogy. That's pretty good. I like, I like where you've gone with it. It's a, it's a boss move.

• 7:08:51Speaker 03

  It comes down to also, you really, truly have to be outstanding to stand out. You have to be good and you have to practice your craft and you have to be proud of it. And one of the things that I like to talk about in terms

• 7:09:04Speaker 05

  Of photography, maybe don't hold your stuff so close. Don't, don't watermark your stuff. Don't be like, oh, you can't share that or you can't have that. Maybe be a little more open to sharing what you have to offer.

• 7:09:17Matt Farah?

  That's an interesting perspective. I think a lot of photographers now are very concerned about usage rights, AI, etc. Credit. You know, credit. You're saying that in your experience, maybe the opposite has been true?

• 7:09:33Speaker 05

  Yes, it's, it's been true since the beginning. Honestly, when I started posting stuff online in forums. In, you know, on my website, I always tried to share the biggest resolution that I could afford.

• 7:09:46Matt Farah?

  Well, maybe that's, I mean, to, to go back to what Ron said, maybe that is, you know, the, the, the, the giving it away. Right? Is that spool of this turbo? And then eventually everybody, even though you haven't been making any money because you've been giving it away. Eventually your name recognition reaches a critical mass that all of a sudden you're a very valuable item.

• 7:10:10Speaker 05

  How would people know what your work looks like if they haven't seen your work?

• 7:10:14Matt Farah?

  Sure. Well, I mean, actually, you know, Joe Rogan, imperfect as he is, once said that the internet. Not shareable is a dead internet. You know, if you paywall everything and it becomes not shareable. There really isn't a point, which I think is probably true.

• 7:10:31Speaker 05

  Can I just point out a Joe Rogan moment? Just, uh, that happened to me recently. Uh, him and Bill Murray. They were looking at my pictures.

• 7:10:39Matt Farah?

  No way.

• 7:10:40Speaker 05

  On one of their shows.

• 7:10:41Matt Farah?

  About of what?

• 7:10:42Speaker 05

  Of this Shelby Super Snake.

• 7:10:43Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 7:10:44Speaker 05

  And, uh, I, I was so blown away. I'm such a big Bill Murray fan, you know?

• 7:10:48Matt Farah?

  Bill Murray, yeah.

• 7:10:49Speaker 05

  And, uh, you know, aside from you mentioning my name on the podcast.

• 7:10:52Matt Farah?

  Say his name three times, he appears at your birthday party.

• 7:10:58Speaker 03

  But I was super stoked because, you know, it's just, uh, I heard rumors that he may have bought one. Um, but like, looking at that.

• 7:11:05Matt Farah?

  Bill Murray?

• 7:11:06Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, not, not, not Bill Murray.

• 7:11:09Matt Farah?

  Oh, Rogan.

• 7:11:10Speaker 03

  Rogan, Rogan.

• 7:11:10Matt Farah?

  Oh, God, that's trash.

• 7:11:12Speaker 03

  Seeing, you know, seeing that, uh, him watching the content and seeing my pictures. It just makes me happy that, you know, real car individuals are consuming my content. It makes me, even if it's something, even at this point in my career, it still makes me happy that I'm doing this thing that other car enthusiasts enjoy.

• 7:11:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah. No, the last, what I was saying, like, when I found out that Seinfeld was watching our shit, it bugged me out, man. Couldn't handle it. Mentally, weird. Like, the next thing you start going to do, you're like, oh, Jerry might watch it. I need to tailor this for how Jerry, Jerry, what if Jerry doesn't like it? What if Jerry, oh, I don't know.

• 7:11:51Speaker 03

  So then, just to close out your question.

• 7:11:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:11:55Speaker 03

  Right now is the best time. If you truly are passionate and you want to do this, we need more creators. There's not enough. We're struggling to be on, yes.

• 7:12:06Matt Farah?

  Really? There's not enough creators?

• 7:12:08Speaker 03

  I'm telling you, I'll be honest with you.

• 7:12:09Matt Farah?

  Doesn't every young person just want to do this and nothing else for a living? How the fuck are we out of creators? It used to be, uh, what do you want to be, an astronaut? It might be, maybe, maybe like, maybe creators that are not as concerned with the technical aspects of the craft like you are, but like, come on.

• 7:12:25Speaker 03

  Well, let me, let me put it this way. It, there may be a lot of creators trying to do it and they will try hard for a little bit and then they'll burn out or they'll, they'll shoot their shot and it won't work and then they'll quit. There's not enough people that are dedicated.

• 7:12:42Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 7:12:42Speaker 03

  It's very hard for me to, right now, to find help, um, from people that are dedicated, that actually would. Be willing to put in the sacrifice to prove themselves. It's and it's.

• 7:12:56Matt Farah?

  Making money doing art is so fucking hard, bro. It is. It's so hard. An incredible journey.

• 7:13:03Speaker 03

  I don't know if you'll back me on this, but. A lot of people that I talk to now still, it's very hard to find young individuals that are willing to sacrifice. It's almost like a lot of times they wanna just come in and they wanna be at the top.

• 7:13:16Matt Farah?

  Working at Hoonigan, I had to hire a lot of people at Hoonigan to keep the ship going, you know, especially as we're expanding. And finding people that came in and were like, oh, wait. This isn't just a big party that I just go and like, I get to rip burnouts too and I get to do all this stuff. Yeah, the outward manner is not what I'm saying. I have to go in and I have to be a part of a four and a half hour meeting where Scotto has the like Charlie Day map on the lightboard. Of how we're gonna turn everything around like.

• 7:13:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, them.

• 7:13:46Matt Farah?

  It's a grind.

• 7:13:47Speaker 03

  Them joining and thinking that they're gonna be on set, taking lead on something on the set of Jim Kana, no.

• 7:13:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah. You understand, to shoot on Jim Kana, you have to have a lot. This isn't a, this isn't a nobody wants to work anymore kinda situation. You just, I mean, I think that. The where the difference, I think, maybe between 20 years ago and now. I feel like that, that the instant gratification of the internet and the sort of influencer lifestyle. Get rich quick sort of schemey lifestyle. There's always been elements of that, but, but the internet sped it up. I agree. I just, I think that people don't understand. The timeline of successful people. In the way, in a way that is accurate. Yeah. They see somebody successful.

• 7:14:37Matt Farah?

  They think they can get there in six months. Quickly, cuz I just heard of you and not, you know.

• 7:14:42Speaker 03

  I get that.

• 7:14:43Matt Farah?

  But and photos real hard, dude. Being a photo assistant, I was there. That's a tough gig, man. You get all fucking angry. Man, I fucking logged this fucking heavy ass light bag up the mountain. This car battery. He showed up and squeezed the shutter and his name's on the credit, dude. I fucking hated that shit when I was 22. And if I had stuck with it, I might have been somebody, but I couldn't hang in that way at that time. It's hard.

• 7:15:13Speaker 01

  It's very hard.

• 7:15:14Matt Farah?

  Most of here at the shop like because now I have like real employees like you know for so many years with me and Zach but like technically but not really but like here employees right and I've had to come to terms with the fact that like my best employees will outgrow me. You know like I won't be able to hold a great employee forever. They're gonna I just lost one. They're gonna outgrow me.

• 7:15:40Speaker 02

  But that's a sign of success for you.

• 7:15:42Matt Farah?

  It's good. I'm not mad about it, you know.

• 7:15:44Speaker 02

  But it's a hard thing to let go of that person.

• 7:15:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and an employee that I'd be happy with forever may or may not be the best choice, you know.

• 7:15:52Speaker 02

  But you did a good job of building them to where if you did horrible and you kind of like rootballed them and and they only stayed doing that one thing that they.

• 7:16:01Matt Farah?

  We're not breaking their spirit.

• 7:16:03Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 7:16:03Matt Farah?

  Um, we have thirty six minutes of radio left to do today. Are you gonna are you gonna stick around or are you gonna head out? Well, I'm we need I want to get a couple more people in.

• 7:16:13Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah. We'll rotate.

• 7:16:13Matt Farah?

  Rod, I'm gonna kick you out.

• 7:16:15Speaker 02

  No problem.

• 7:16:15Matt Farah?

  Larry, you stay. I'm gonna bring Sam Fain in, but I have to pee. He came back.

• 7:16:20Speaker 01

  Nice. Oh, thank you.

• 7:16:22Matt Farah?

  Larry, Larry and Zach will have the con for just a minute and I'm gonna pee and come back.

• 7:16:31Speaker 01

  How are things with you? Hey, what's up? How you doing? I'm Zach. Nice to meet you. Yeah, nice to meet you too. Um, are you racing this year at all? Yeah, I've been racing as much as I can and it's so much fun. It's crazy. I've been watching it from the outside for so long, you know, since I started shooting. And I always talk about the fact that I got into this from a love for driving. And I I find myself falling in love with driving time and time again. Especially now just looking at it from a different lens, different landscape.

• 7:17:06Speaker 05

  Racing is, the entry is very difficult. Everything, financially, knowledge, skill, all that. But, man, when you get there, it's like, I'm just so hooked. There's nothing like it.

• 7:17:22Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 7:17:22Speaker 05

  It's so much fun. And it's everything I've always pictured it could potentially be, you know, looking from the outside. I see how much fun these drivers are having, really. But, that's not to say that I, I get, like, what they do and I get that that skill level is different, right? Like, I look at someone like Pat Long, I even talked to Pat Long about driving for a living and he's like, oof. It's, it's like getting, uh, having a gun held to your head all the time.

• 7:17:51Speaker 01

  They work so hard. And I'm friends with Pat, uh, Parker Kligerman, you know, he's NASCAR driver. He raced for Hendrick when he was early twenties. And then the opportunities went away. And then he brought, he got opportunities back after, like, grinding, hosting television, staying in the circle, racing cheaper NASCAR series. You know, doing well enough to get attention. And like, just knowing him and watching this, like, roller coaster of opportunity and it goes away. And then you can bring it back, but it's tenuous at times, like, they, and all of them across every series are under so much pressure to deliver. I mean, that's their job, of course, but it's perfection all the time. And, you know, you're only allowed so many either errors or even team technical issues that aren't your fault necessarily.

• 7:18:35Speaker 01

  Well, that's the stuff that's out of your control, right? You know, just simple stuff, you know, punctures or someone plowing into you on the first corner. And then suddenly you're three races of bad luck and you say sponsor money and all of these things. The stress, I think, must be unbearable. And as a, as a hobbyist even, I think, I don't, it's so much money and commitment and effort. It's a lot, it's a ton.

• 7:18:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, for me, I'm racing for one reason and it's for life fulfillment. You know, it's, it's something that I've always wanted to do and I feel.

• 7:19:07Speaker 01

  Right doing it and I enjoy the fact that I don't have the pressure to perform. Yeah. You know, and it's just so much fun and I urge whoever wants to take that leap to do it. And that's one of the reasons why I'm trying my best to tell this story and tell this journey. However hard or however fun it is, um, I'm, I'm just being very honest and very open about what I'm doing to hopefully bring more people along into this. Nice. Because it is just, there's just nothing else like it because it is battling. It's battling. It's like fist fighting, but you're using these machines, you know, it's,

• 7:19:48Speaker 01

  it's so fun in our, in our nature, in our human nature, we, we want to do this thing. We want this challenge. That is physical. Yeah. And that's skill based, you know, and that's why I think it's just so intriguing and so interesting. And it works like your problem solving, your, the race craft of planning passes or, or managing tires or any of these things. And I don't know how to do that stuff. I'm just aware of it when I've, the little racing I've done. You have to pay attention and then you gotta pay attention behind you, in front of you. I mean, it, it uses like every part of the car brain or the brain in general, and it's so much fun and you're getting adrenaline and it's competitive, like it delivers so much more than just driving a car fast. It's, it's awesome.

• 7:20:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. It, you know, this is one of the things that I've been thinking about this more and more as I've been taking a lot of instruction from drivers that are so much better than me and I, I'm assuming you probably can relate to this. Um, because I know you've been doing a lot of racing schools and stuff too. But. But. One, but it was uh. Four days and uh.

• 7:20:52Speaker 01

  Let, let me just put it this way, okay? I recently did a radical school. Oh, yeah. At Spring Mountain, right? At Spring Mountain. Yeah. And uh, my instructor Blake Olson, he's a Formula Drift driver, great sports car driver, great instructor. Absolutely incredible wheelman, right? I'm sitting in the passenger seat watching him drive.

• 7:21:17Speaker 05

  He's watching me drive, li- looking at my data. And then I just realized, just, it just clicked at this moment. I've spent maybe twenty thou- maybe twenty thousand hours, that, what's the whole thing, ten thousand?

• 7:21:31Matt Farah?

  Ten thousand hours to learn an expert, yeah.

• 7:21:33Speaker 05

  I probably spent twenty or more hours learning photography, right?

• 7:21:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah, probably.

• 7:21:38Speaker 05

  This man spent twenty thousand hours learning how to drive.

• 7:21:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:21:42Speaker 05

  And if he had to pick up a camera the next day, how long do you think it would take for him to get to my level? And I think that's, I thought the same thing, I'm like, well, it's, it's good for me to appreciate his skill and absorb some of his knowledge, because he's done what I've done for photography.

• 7:22:04Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 7:22:04Speaker 05

  He's done that with driving. And I, and that gives me a higher appreciation of what he has to offer me.

• 7:22:10Matt Farah?

  Dude, the super pros, those guys, they've got, they've, they're, they're not operating on regular people level, that's a different thing.

• 7:22:18Speaker 05

  And then, in turn, this is also giving me a fresh perspective when I do watch racing. When I watch twenty-four hours of Daytona. When I watch those guys doing stints, like, I think to myself, oh man, I was so gassed out doing two hours in a Mini Cooper. I was so gassed out, I couldn't walk. And then these freaking guys are pulling-

• 7:22:40Speaker 01

  You do double stints?

• 7:22:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, two and a half Gs, three Gs, double, triple stints sometimes. I have nothing to complain about.

• 7:22:48Matt Farah?

  I'm dunzo after ninety minutes in a Miata. Straight dunzo, yeah.

• 7:22:52Speaker 03

  It's mad.

• 7:22:52Matt Farah?

  Mad sweaty.

• 7:22:53Speaker 05

  That is, that, a lot of that is lost.

• 7:22:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:22:56Speaker 05

  Uh, when-

• 7:22:57Matt Farah?

  It doesn't translate to TV.

• 7:22:58Speaker 05

  It doesn't translate at all. And think about, people watch F1, oh, so and so sucks, da, da, da, da. Okay, I couldn't move my neck after pulling two and a half Gs in a Radical for a day.

• 7:23:12Matt Farah?

  Dude, the shittiest pay driver in F1 is like housing all of us.

• 7:23:16Speaker 05

  Six and a half, six and a half Gs these guys are pulling.

• 7:23:20Matt Farah?

  Wrecking us.

• 7:23:20Speaker 03

  I remember I did a thing with Ferrari where they took us all go-karting and it was me and all the W E C drivers. And, um, who's the, uh, Fassbender, Michael Fassbender. And, like, Fassbender was doing the whole Ferrari program.

• 7:23:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he was trying to do a whole thing. He was, uh, with, uh, uh, the, with Challenge and with a, he did, he narrated some thing, it was a whole bit.

• 7:23:41Speaker 03

  It was a whole bit, and, and the only, of the group, it was all young-

• 7:23:44Speaker 02

  drivers except Giancarlo Fisichello is XF1.

• 7:23:46Matt Farah?

  Oh shit, yeah, yeah.

• 7:23:47Speaker 02

  So I was like, we're gonna get in the mix as go kart drivers. How good can they be? Dude.

• 7:23:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:23:53Speaker 02

  This one.

• 7:23:53Matt Farah?

  The answer is.

• 7:23:54Speaker 02

  They were gone.

• 7:23:56Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 7:23:57Speaker 02

  Like, gone. Put Formula One drivers or World Endurance Championship drivers in a go kart?

• 7:24:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:24:03Speaker 02

  Next level.

• 7:24:04Speaker 01

  Well, because they grew up driving the most of them. And if you didn't, because I drove like little go karts as a kid, but not like competitively. So I didn't know how they really work. I raced a six year old on a TV show. I was 2018.

• 7:24:16Matt Farah?

  Six year old?

• 7:24:17Speaker 01

  No, no, this was a six year old kart racer. So he'd been driving for a year and a half and gone, not even a chance. I was like, how did he even do that? How is he going around this? Doesn't make any sense. No, power to weight, sure. But it's like, they know how to move the kart, flex the frame, all that shit that we don't know how to do.

• 7:24:31Matt Farah?

  There's apparently a 24 hour kart race in Brazil every year that is a huge deal. Team sport, lots of F1 and XF1 drivers do it. And one of my clients does it and was like, I can get you in. I was like, I'm.

• 7:24:48Matt Farah?

  What is, what is anyone else on the team gonna say when you show up with a 265 pound guy and go, he's in?

• 7:24:57Speaker 02

  He's a qualifying guy.

• 7:24:58Matt Farah?

  They're gonna go, John Alessi is over, like.

• 7:25:04Matt Farah?

  It's Senna, it's Mick Schumacher, it's, it's, and you've got like a fat American.

• 7:25:10Speaker 02

  Youtuber in.

• 7:25:11Speaker 01

  No, they need Mario Kart rules.

• 7:25:12Matt Farah?

  Like, what the fuck? Like, no, I'm not doing this. You crazy?

• 7:25:16Speaker 02

  Experience be good then.

• 7:25:17Speaker 01

  You're Bowser. They should give you higher top speed. They should be OP.

• 7:25:21Matt Farah?

  I won, I won when I, when I raced karts in, as an adult, I raced karts in 05 and I won the over 200 pound class.

• 7:25:30Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait. How many people were in the class?

• 7:25:33Matt Farah?

  It was full grid.

• 7:25:34Speaker 02

  Oh, cool.

• 7:25:34Matt Farah?

  Full grid.

• 7:25:35Speaker 02

  Had to be clarified, right?

• 7:25:36Matt Farah?

  Full grid.

• 7:25:36Speaker 02

  Before you.

• 7:25:37Matt Farah?

  Flat people. We're talking fat, flat people. We, I was crushing though. I was crushing. Because when, to go back to this fucking year, back to, we were showing my first ever YouTube video.

• 7:25:47Speaker 02

  Okay, nice.

• 7:25:48Matt Farah?

  18 years ago.

• 7:25:48Speaker 02

  Incredible.

• 7:25:49Matt Farah?

  To go back to that year, I made a commercial for my friend Nat, built the dopest go kart track in New York. Indoor, two tracks, you could connect them together to make a super track, indoor gas karts, SODs. They were fucking fast. It was awesome. So he asked me and Tom Morningstar if we would make a commercial. For them, but they didn't have a lot of money. So in exchange for paying us to make a TV commercial, lifetime free unlimited karting. And so I, me and Tom made the commercial. I then immediately began karting three hours a day.

• 7:26:31Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 7:26:32Matt Farah?

  I basically moved into the track. I would go to work, I'd come home, I left my racing shit at the track. I'd be karting two to three hours a day. My arms got so fucking jacked. When they announced the over 200 pound men's league, I was like, let's fucking go. And I qualified like fucking Hamilton in 2014, dude. Fucking on pole, across the board.

• 7:26:56Speaker 01

  Seven seconds.

• 7:26:56Matt Farah?

  Reverse grid, hard charger, crushed. Got the trophy, destroyed.

• 7:27:02Speaker 01

  There was a time I went to my wife's.

• 7:27:04Matt Farah?

  I practiced every single day.

• 7:27:06Speaker 01

  Well, literally, my wife's from Bulgaria, right? And she, one day we were, we were hanging out and she said, oh, there's this guy, he does YouTube stuff. He wants to meet you. So I was like, cool. We went and hung out, we were chatting. He said, hey, do you want to go go-karting? I was like, yeah, I want to go go-karting, bro. And I think I'm gonna, I'm just gonna school this guy like I drive. Wait, now, do you have that confidence? Where did that come from? Is that just like, I like cars? Just a big ego. Right, okay. I had two at a point, so I just wanted to.

• 7:27:26Speaker 02

  I sound very smart when I talk, and therefore I'm good.

• 7:27:31Speaker 01

  Look at all the places we've colonized. We can do anything. But also, he was like, he was like a fashion influencer. So I was like, come on, bro, like, I got this. We get to the go-kart track and he starts like high-fiving everyone. Everyone's like, hey, man, nice to see you, hugging. I'm like, wow, he, he knows the people here. Next thing I know, I turn around, he's like strapping on a rib protector. He's got like his own helmet, his own gloves. I'm like, ass, shit. We get on the track and this guy freaking comes past me like freaking Fernando Alonso, carving me up. I'm like, I can't, I'm done. What does this dude, he's a fashion influencer? He was a fashion influencer and he did the same thing.

• 7:28:03Matt Farah?

  Was his friend's track. Oh, and he just lived there. Yeah, so at the end of the day, I'm like, dude, what the hell, he goes, oh, I come every day. Yeah. You could have given me a heads up. It was great. I've never had more upper body strength. I was crushing it, looking good, feeling fit. It was awesome, every single day.

• 7:28:18Speaker 01

  That's a workout I wouldn't be, you know, bummed to do every day.

• 7:28:22Matt Farah?

  It was great. It was so good, dude. We'd be ripping that track every day. Eventually, he learned, because he put a bar there, and obviously you couldn't drink and then drive. So he realized that he could sell a whole lot more liquor. He took out one of the two go-kart tracks and made it a bowling alley, because you can bowl drunk as fuck. And then he made a fucking fortune. Shout out to my friend Nat. And now he's a car dealer in Connecticut, this guy. When I say car dealer, he sells Chimera, the Laundia things, he sells those. He sells SSC, the Tuatara, he sells that. He sells Glickenhaus, the boots and the SCGs.

• 7:29:05Matt Farah?

  And he sells like boutiquey track day race cars. And that's his HK, just let's look at his inventory. I'm gonna give him a fucking plug. Let's look at HK Motor Cars inventory. I bet you it's the weirdest shit. If he does five cars a year, he's happy. He sells the weirdest shit. He just bought a store in Connecticut. He's got a weird, he's got a, let's see, inventory. Eccentric. Eccentric Chimera, SSC, vintage, that's those weird Bronco things. So he's got some race cars, cup car, 911 cup car, some secondhand Euro. Whoa, 91 BMW 850 Dynon twin turbo. That's rogue. Let's go. Okay, keep going.

• 7:29:48Speaker 01

  How to make a complicated powertrain more complicated.

• 7:29:51Matt Farah?

  He's got a supercharged 928, that's funky and weird. Carrera RS27 lightweight, that's very good. Amphacar, weird.

• 7:30:01Speaker 02

  Boring, right?

• 7:30:02Speaker 01

  That's what it feels like.

• 7:30:04Matt Farah?

  Wow, okay, then we've got a bunch of old stuff. I thought he had like race, what is all the race? The, the, the weird super cars. He must be dumping someone's entire collection.

• 7:30:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what it looks like.

• 7:30:12Matt Farah?

  And then I guess.

• 7:30:13Speaker 01

  Random.

• 7:30:15Matt Farah?

  A random 1984 military truck. This, this dude though, Nat, this guy's alright.

• 7:30:21Speaker 02

  He's a good guy.

• 7:30:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he's a, he's a fucking, we gotta, I, we have to do, he, his, his like SEO death because nobody wants to hear from a car dealer, they don't know. But anyone who clicks on a podcast that we do with this guy will enter a world of gold.

• 7:30:36Speaker 01

  How many hot dog stands? Any hot dog stand?

• 7:30:38Matt Farah?

  He started by with having hot dog carts in New York City.

• 7:30:40Speaker 01

  He's got a good story, yeah.

• 7:30:42Matt Farah?

  Like parlayed his way up to car dealer franchises.

• 7:30:46Speaker 01

  I wish I had that kind of brain. It's awesome.

• 7:30:48Matt Farah?

  Oh, this guy, this guy looks like he came from money, but he's just pure, pure hustle. He's the whitest Armenian you've ever met, is what I'm trying to say. This guy's got the Armenian.

• 7:31:02Speaker 02

  We, we understand.

• 7:31:04Matt Farah?

  What's happening in the world of Sam? You got lenoed earlier.

• 7:31:06Speaker 02

  I got so lenoed.

• 7:31:07Speaker 01

  You've been, uh.

• 7:31:08Speaker 02

  But I was, I was like, wow, I just.

• 7:31:10Speaker 01

  You've been here to nod for about three hours.

• 7:31:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I just watched, I just watched.

• 7:31:14Matt Farah?

  And, and like, and it's so nice to see you.

• 7:31:16Speaker 02

  Dude, thank you for inviting me and having me. I am here selfishly, by the way. You know, I'm dropping off the Boxer right now.

• 7:31:21Speaker 01

  That's fine.

• 7:31:22Speaker 02

  I totally didn't tell you that.

• 7:31:23Speaker 01

  That's okay.

• 7:31:23Speaker 02

  I saw Hannah, I was like, oh yeah, by the way, Matt doesn't know, but I gotta leave this here right now.

• 7:31:26Matt Farah?

  That's okay.

• 7:31:27Speaker 02

  I'm going to the airport in five or 10 minutes.

• 7:31:29Matt Farah?

  Alright, that's fine, cool.

• 7:31:30Speaker 02

  You know, I thought I'd swing by and just check in on you guys.

• 7:31:31Matt Farah?

  I'm so happy, and we're happy to take care of the Boxer. You are a paying customer and leaving the Boxer is just fine.

• 7:31:38Speaker 02

  Thank you so much. You don't have to say that because we're on air.

• 7:31:40Matt Farah?

  No, we'll take it.

• 7:31:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, life's good, man. Been hanging out.

• 7:31:43Matt Farah?

  Have you been happy with our service at West Side?

• 7:31:44Speaker 02

  Fantastic service, great updates, wonderful invoicing.

• 7:31:50Speaker 02

  But no, I will shout out endlessly and have done in a video went live earlier today where you got a lot of shout outs.

• 7:31:54Matt Farah?

  I appreciate that, thank you. We love, we love having that car. We're gonna miss that.

• 7:31:58Speaker 02

  I'm here to get rid of it, unfortunately. It's uh, it's going up for auction at the Broad Arrow Air Water, so that's the end of that.

• 7:32:04Matt Farah?

  Oh, well, we'll see it at Air Water. We'll, we'll send it down there.

• 7:32:07Speaker 02

  Put a bid in. Put a bid in if you want.

• 7:32:09Matt Farah?

  Well, my car's going to Air Water.

• 7:32:10Speaker 02

  Which one?

• 7:32:11Matt Farah?

  The Spyder. Not auction. It's going on display. My Spyder's going on display. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 7:32:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, mine's going, going.

• 7:32:18Matt Farah?

  That's okay, though. You've, you've enjoyed it, though, right?

• 7:32:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's been mega. It's a bit like, okay, I had a short version of what you did with the Bentley, right? It was for a purpose. It was like, can I? I was gonna ship the GT3 over, my car, and that was 20 grand in a container. And I was like, can I do this trip for less? Yes.

• 7:32:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:32:34Speaker 02

  Not hard to do. And I had a great time, so.

• 7:32:37Matt Farah?

  And actually, your Boxers are really nice. It's like a low-mile, well-kept, nice Boxer.

• 7:32:42Speaker 02

  With chrome wheels.

• 7:32:42Matt Farah?

  And, you know, the chromes can go. Obviously, the chromes can straight fucking go.

• 7:32:47Speaker 02

  All I will tell you is they grow on you. That's all I will say.

• 7:32:50Matt Farah?

  Nah, I, I look at that car a lot, cause it's in front of me, and they don't. They're not.

• 7:32:57Speaker 02

  Well, they're easy to replace for any potential buyers.

• 7:33:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, they're not crucial to the car. Everything else about that car is pretty nice.

• 7:33:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a sweet thing, dude. It's a sweet thing.

• 7:33:06Matt Farah?

  Does it have a short shifter in it?

• 7:33:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, it feels like it, right?

• 7:33:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, somebody put a short shifter in it.

• 7:33:10Speaker 02

  That, that we suspected, but it's not got a lot of paperwork. That's the only downside, hence the auction. Um, but it's, you know, it, it's been fun and what else have I been doing? I...

• 7:33:18Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, you're gonna get out of it for basically even money, right?

• 7:33:21Speaker 02

  I would hope so. We didn't spend a lot.

• 7:33:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, so if you, instead of spending 20 grand to ship your car, buy a car and then get out of it for even money, that's smart math.

• 7:33:31Speaker 02

  That's happy day.

• 7:33:32Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah. Larry, what is a car that you would like to buy and have an adventure with, maybe over a period of time, or maybe not, and then just get out with, get out of for even money?

• 7:33:44Speaker 05

  Hmm. That is a good question. I, I feel like I, I did that in Europe last year.

• 7:33:51Matt Farah?

  Did you buy something?

• 7:33:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, I bought a Euro E36 M3.

• 7:33:55Matt Farah?

  Oh, cool. Oh, neat.

• 7:33:57Speaker 05

  A pile of trash.

• 7:33:58Matt Farah?

  Oh, dude, oh, bummer. Did you find that out when it got back here?

• 7:34:01Speaker 05

  No, I found it out when I landed in the UK. It was a Spanish car.

• 7:34:06Speaker 02

  Lovely.

• 7:34:07Speaker 05

  Um, with a blown motor, so had to get the motor fixed, did my epic road trip.

• 7:34:12Speaker 03

  From London to Warclaw, Poland.

• 7:34:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:34:17Speaker 03

  Uh, to go to the Alt Race show.

• 7:34:20Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, cool.

• 7:34:21Speaker 03

  And then, you know, driving on the Autobahn. Car sounds amazing, fun to drive, great driver's car. It was just falling apart.

• 7:34:28Matt Farah?

  Oh, bother me.

• 7:34:29Speaker 03

  But, you know, it's one of those things, we are going.

• 7:34:31Matt Farah?

  You live and you learn.

• 7:34:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, but that's.

• 7:34:34Matt Farah?

  You left it there.

• 7:34:35Speaker 03

  I did, but we're going to go ahead and restore it.

• 7:34:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, wait, so.

• 7:34:41Speaker 03

  It's, it's a, it's at E A G right now.

• 7:34:43Matt Farah?

  Oh, no shit, okay.

• 7:34:45Speaker 03

  It's at E A G in Cincinnati, Ohio, and we're gonna restore it. I don't really know what I'm gonna do with it afterwards, we might auction it off.

• 7:34:52Matt Farah?

  Wait, no, so hang on, you went to Europe, drove it, it sucks.

• 7:34:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:34:57Matt Farah?

  But now it's at E A G. What happened in between Europe and E A G?

• 7:35:01Speaker 03

  Well, the, part of it is, um, I'm a small part owner of E A G. And I want to really show off what E A G's capable of in terms of turning a car around.

• 7:35:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay.

• 7:35:16Speaker 03

  That is such a pile of crap, that's documented to be such a pile. What it could look like after it goes through that process.

• 7:35:24Matt Farah?

  And so, did you ignore it in Europe, let it go, and now find it later, the same car?

• 7:35:30Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no.

• 7:35:30Matt Farah?

  And are restoring it, you had it the whole time?

• 7:35:32Speaker 03

  Had it the whole time, drove it, did a whole YouTube series on it to tell everyone how much of a pile. So, it's, it's stock car yellow, and I.

• 7:35:43Matt Farah?

  Oh, nice.

• 7:35:43Speaker 03

  We nicknamed it Larry's Lemon, right? So, it's the stock car yellow, E thirty-six, Euro, M three, you know. Such a great car. The motor, talk about ahead of its time, oh my god.

• 7:35:55Matt Farah?

  No, they're great motors, yeah.

• 7:35:57Speaker 03

  High revving, sounds amazing, but yeah, so, um, just like how I like to do the whole, you know, drive cars in Japan, wanted to do the same thing in Europe.

• 7:36:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:36:07Speaker 03

  I'm gonna do it again.

• 7:36:08Matt Farah?

  That's the fun of it. Um, Sam, you have to go to the airport. Yeah, I'm flying. Okay, give me a hug. But no, do, congratulations, both of you. We love you. Are these guys you're leaving to? Okay. Bye, guys. Do we have, who else do they have? Congratulations. I'll see you again soon. Bye, bye, Vin, bye, Ron, thank you guys so much for coming. We really appreciate you guys.

• 7:36:27Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 7:36:27Matt Farah?

  Thank you.

• 7:36:28Speaker 03

  Thanks for coming.

• 7:36:29Matt Farah?

  You good, Larry?

• 7:36:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm good.

• 7:36:30Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool, sorry. People are coming and going.

• 7:36:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:36:33Matt Farah?

  No Brian Scotto.

• 7:36:34Speaker 01

  Well, maybe car didn't work, one of his 15?

• 7:36:37Matt Farah?

  It would be a 16 hour. Johnny! Be a long. Come back in. Thing. We got an open mic, it's your turn. Johnny and I. Drinking your liquor this entire time. Johnny Leverman is back in the house, we have 16 minutes of radio left. I'm so excited because I did not know Johnny was such a big Star Wars fan. Oh, big Star Wars? Yeah, so we were just nerding out on Star Wars stuff.

• 7:37:01Speaker 03

  But like, not like, we're Star Wars fans, like, fuck the Phantom Menace, everything that came after, those three new movies are utter trash, we're not like.

• 7:37:10Matt Farah?

  So, nothing post Jedi?

• 7:37:12Speaker 03

  No, Rogue One, Rogue One.

• 7:37:14Matt Farah?

  No, Rogue One's a great.

• 7:37:15Speaker 01

  Is the volume of stuff they put out right now annoying to you guys as super fans?

• 7:37:18Speaker 03

  No, it's just, the quality is, the volume, they could do a new movie every day and I'd be happy, but the quality has been shit, except for.

• 7:37:25Matt Farah?

  As long as Andor, as long as they do, uh, films or series like Andor.

• 7:37:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:37:31Matt Farah?

  Then we're all in, I'm such a huge Star Wars nerd, I played with the playing cards, trading cards as a kid.

• 7:37:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess I did, yeah.

• 7:37:39Matt Farah?

  Dude, I, I just, I lived it, you know, it was just a fantasy nerd thing that I enjoyed as a kid.

• 7:37:44Speaker 03

  I just, the most, most disappointing moment of my life was, uh, it was Memorial Day, 1999, New York City, Phantom Menace debut.

• 7:37:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:37:57Speaker 03

  They had a Thursday midnight showing, and my friend Joel and I were the first people in the theater, and I was, I've never been more excited in my life, and I remember like, at some point I fell asleep. It was so boring.

• 7:38:10Matt Farah?

  Soul crush.

• 7:38:11Speaker 03

  Stupid, and I just like, I walked out, I'm like, I guess I'm an adult, this is, this is just fucking lame.

• 7:38:16Matt Farah?

  I once waited overnight for a pair of shoes on a Black Friday release, only for the kid in front of me to buy them and try to flip them to me for 5X. Like, he turned around? Yeah. And he was like, hey, you wanna buy these? That's why I'm in line, dude. Yeah.

• 7:38:27Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 7:38:28Matt Farah?

  He bought the si- he bought my size. Yeah. Never buying any on Black Friday ever again.

• 7:38:34Speaker 03

  How you doing?

• 7:38:35Matt Farah?

  Johnny, I really like this, uh, the other, the second bottle you gave me.

• 7:38:39Speaker 03

  What's it called? Invisible Swordsman?

• 7:38:40Matt Farah?

  Where do I read the name?

• 7:38:41Speaker 03

  On the ba- on the back where you're, where you're, yeah, right there. Boom, thumbs on it.

• 7:38:45Matt Farah?

  Invisible Swordsman.

• 7:38:46Speaker 03

  That's the one.

• 7:38:47Matt Farah?

  I love it. I love it. This is, that's the game over.

• 7:38:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:38:50Matt Farah?

  Next level, exceptional bourbon.

• 7:38:52Speaker 03

  When we were tasting them, that was the first one picked again.

• 7:38:54Matt Farah?

  This is a mind blown.

• 7:38:55Speaker 03

  You have a bunch of, you have a bunch of, and benderstash.com or whatever.

• 7:38:59Matt Farah?

  The other one is very good, but this one is the one that's like.

• 7:39:02Speaker 03

  Hundred percent.

• 7:39:03Matt Farah?

  Oh, this is my jam.

• 7:39:04Speaker 03

  It was a special bottle and it was, um, very obvious and it was, uh, the, again, I was, I knew I was picking two barrels at a bunch of them. But that was like, this one, this one for sure. And then we went back on the others.

• 7:39:15Matt Farah?

  How do I buy a bottle of that? Is it possible?

• 7:39:17Speaker 03

  Yes. Um, it was supposed to be live right now, but, uh, for people who hear this on Thursday it comes out.

• 7:39:23Matt Farah?

  Thursday.

• 7:39:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, it'll, it should be on benderstash.com. Now, there's not many left.

• 7:39:27Matt Farah?

  Wait, well, I, I, I want to buy one.

• 7:39:29Speaker 03

  I will get you one.

• 7:39:30Matt Farah?

  I don't care about them.

• 7:39:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:39:32Matt Farah?

  I don't care about you promoting this to people.

• 7:39:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:39:36Matt Farah?

  I want one.

• 7:39:37Speaker 01

  Use affiliate code.

• 7:39:38Speaker 03

  Hang on, I'll just listen.

• 7:39:39Matt Farah?

  It's my party and I'll cry if I want to.

• 7:39:42Speaker 03

  I want you to say, Bill.

• 7:39:43Matt Farah?

  By the way, that song, written by one Leslie Gore, dated by one Roger Farah.

• 7:39:52Speaker 03

  Matt.

• 7:39:53Matt Farah?

  What?

• 7:39:53Speaker 03

  Does this say you want the bottle? I'm sending a video.

• 7:39:55Matt Farah?

  Habibi.

• 7:39:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:39:57Matt Farah?

  I want the bottle.

• 7:39:58Speaker 03

  Bill, do you hear the man?

• 7:39:59Matt Farah?

  Allocation.

• 7:40:00Speaker 03

  We're sending Matt a bottle.

• 7:40:02Speaker 01

  Well, invisible swordsman. How many entry level bottles have you bought to get that allocation?

• 7:40:06Matt Farah?

  Seventy-five hundred, uh, precious metals with diamonds, mother of pearl diamonds.

• 7:40:12Speaker 01

  You gotta buy some of the cheaper bottles first, smaller ones.

• 7:40:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you gotta, I need to, I need to build up my purchases.

• 7:40:16Speaker 01

  Gotta buy the crossover.

• 7:40:18Matt Farah?

  Isn't that, that, it's so good.

• 7:40:21Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 7:40:21Matt Farah?

  That one is so good.

• 7:40:23Speaker 03

  It was, it was an obvious, um, yeah.

• 7:40:26Matt Farah?

  It's a real winner.

• 7:40:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:40:28Matt Farah?

  Thanks.

• 7:40:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's good.

• 7:40:29Matt Farah?

  Um.

• 7:40:30Speaker 03

  It's good stuff.

• 7:40:31Matt Farah?

  Dude, I can't believe we've done five hours and forty-eight hours.

• 7:40:35Speaker 01

  We've done seven hours and fifty-one minutes.

• 7:40:36Matt Farah?

  Seven hours and fifty minutes.

• 7:40:37Speaker 03

  Five, seven numbers.

• 7:40:39Matt Farah?

  No, you started, the stream started a little early, right?

• 7:40:42Speaker 01

  You said five hours.

• 7:40:43Matt Farah?

  I did, you're right.

• 7:40:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:40:44Matt Farah?

  My, I was wrong.

• 7:40:45Speaker 01

  That's what I.

• 7:40:47Matt Farah?

  I wrote so many things, should we, alright. I spent so much time writing things to talk about, we should do at least a couple.

• 7:40:54Speaker 03

  I got a better idea, we'll come back and do another podcast with just the.

• 7:40:58Matt Farah?

  No, I mean, these are evergreen, we can use these, okay, we can use these, but like, let's see.

• 7:41:03Speaker 03

  Hit me.

• 7:41:05Matt Farah?

  Let's see.

• 7:41:05Speaker 03

  Hit me.

• 7:41:08Matt Farah?

  I can tell where the next morning started, okay. Do you want a question I wrote, in the sun by the pool with the cats?

• 7:41:15Speaker 03

  No, sadness.

• 7:41:15Matt Farah?

  Or one I wrote after reading the news this morning?

• 7:41:17Speaker 03

  Sadness, yes.

• 7:41:19Matt Farah?

  Number 19. If you could murder an oligarch and redistribute their wealth.

• 7:41:24Speaker 03

  Oh god.

• 7:41:25Matt Farah?

  Who would you kill and where would it go?

• 7:41:26Speaker 01

  I don't know if we want to say this on.

• 7:41:28Matt Farah?

  That's the problem, right?

• 7:41:29Speaker 03

  Oh, saved by the bell.

• 7:41:31Speaker 01

  Oh darn, we're not gonna get investigated by the NSA.

• 7:41:33Matt Farah?

  10 minutes of radio.

• 7:41:34Speaker 03

  You got lucky, Obamovich.

• 7:41:36Matt Farah?

  10 minutes of radio.

• 7:41:37Speaker 01

  Happy birthday, something like that.

• 7:41:39Matt Farah?

  Party mic, party mic. Party mic?

• 7:41:40Speaker 07

  Who wants it, hello?

• 7:41:41Speaker 01

  Wait, activate it.

• 7:41:42Matt Farah?

  We're on a mic.

• 7:41:43Speaker 01

  Hello.

• 7:41:43Speaker 03

  Nice.

• 7:41:44Speaker 01

  That is a rough question.

• 7:41:45Matt Farah?

  Hello, everybody, 10 minutes, 10 minutes remain.

• 7:41:48Speaker 01

  Does somebody else want to answer that question?

• 7:41:50Matt Farah?

  Alright, here we go, hang on a second, we have.

• 7:41:52Speaker 01

  Which oligarch would you kill?

• 7:41:53Matt Farah?

  Obamovich. Sarah Klapman, have you changed your name, are you going to? Excuse me, I apologize, I didn't know if you were going to.

• 7:42:02Speaker 03

  Into the mic, Sarah.

• 7:42:03Matt Farah?

  Sarah Stringfellow slash Klapman hyphen. It's, it's better with, it's Stringfellow Klapman.

• 7:42:10Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 7:42:10Matt Farah?

  That's, you sound high society.

• 7:42:13Speaker 03

  Sounds good.

• 7:42:13Matt Farah?

  Fuck, keep the hyphen.

• 7:42:14Speaker 01

  It's a lot of paperwork, you know.

• 7:42:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah, if you keep the hyphen, you get issued 100 acres somewhere in the countryside. In the cocks world. Jonny Lieberman, Jay Ryan, Christian Hand, Alana Shear, and Larry Chen, all on mic for the last 10 minutes. Woo. Should we get another party mic, is that a thing we can do right now?

• 7:42:32Speaker 01

  I have to go to the basement.

• 7:42:33Matt Farah?

  Ah, no, we're not, we're not.

• 7:42:34Speaker 07

  I'll just hand this one around.

• 7:42:34Matt Farah?

  Try to be nice, I don't even know.

• 7:42:36Speaker 01

  Jay and I have tried to share a mic here.

• 7:42:38Matt Farah?

  I don't even know what we're doing. Should we, we could, okay, we could speed round with questions I wrote?

• 7:42:43Speaker 03

  Speed is good.

• 7:42:44Matt Farah?

  We could, we could play car you garbage, like show of hands. Uh, Jesus, I don't even know.

• 7:42:49Speaker 03

  Sure, hands sounds bad on the radio.

• 7:42:51Matt Farah?

  I don't even know.

• 7:42:52Speaker 07

  I've been thinking about this for the last like 2 minutes, but Stringfellow Klapman sounds like a chamber organ. Orchestra?

• 7:42:58Speaker 03

  It does.

• 7:42:58Speaker 07

  Like you, you know, like you've got like the violin covered and he's on, on some sort of percussion.

• 7:43:03Matt Farah?

  There was that amazing meme that called all music from the 2010s stomped clap.

• 7:43:09Speaker 02

  I'm represented by Stringfellow Klapman.

• 7:43:11Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 7:43:13Speaker 02

  Uh, I'm Christian Hand with Stringfellow Klapman. Nice to meet you. We'll be representing you as the plaintiff in this.

• 7:43:20Speaker 01

  Stringfellow, I think of Airwolf. Anybody?

• 7:43:22Speaker 02

  You can't be a Stringfellow Klapman.

• 7:43:24Matt Farah?

  We already talked about the Airwolf helicopter on the roof of that house in Bel Air. The Mikowski house. It did sell. They asked 250, sold for 94. Cause obviously it was priced appropriately. But the, the reason we brought it up is because the helicopter, it was advertised as being a non-flyable replica.

• 7:43:44Speaker 01

  Correct. There was no engine in it.

• 7:43:45Matt Farah?

  Right. That's not true. We went, well, at least we went, Hannah and I went to a party there. And the real estate agent was like, actually, you just have to reinstall this cube and you can fly it out of here. We just aren't allowed to say there's a helicopter that's flyable here.

• 7:44:01Speaker 01

  That guy's wrong. My friend built that.

• 7:44:02Matt Farah?

  Okay. Well, then it's fake. Okay. Well, that's the other option.

• 7:44:06Speaker 01

  They're just trying to sell the house. Rotting in the sun down, down at the airport.

• 7:44:08Matt Farah?

  The other option is guy totally full of shit because this is Los Angeles and it was a complete fake.

• 7:44:13Speaker 03

  I mean, are you saying a real estate agent would lie?

• 7:44:16Speaker 02

  Not if they're represented by Stringfellow.

• 7:44:18Matt Farah?

  Not in, not in, yeah, not in Stringfellow Cat Klapman Realty.

• 7:44:22Speaker 03

  I'm Stringfellow Klapman. We can fix the plane, the helicopter. Have all your estate needs.

• 7:44:29Matt Farah?

  Oh, no. Sarah should do a, um, what's the, the, the fucking Eddie, the Whoopi Goldberg movie, The Associate?

• 7:44:36Speaker 01

  Oh, I love that.

• 7:44:37Matt Farah?

  You should do an associate as Stringfellow Ca- Caplet. And make up a fake, a fake man to be a partner with. Yeah. And then everyone will take you more seriously, but you'll be smarter than all the men. That's the moral of that movie and then.

• 7:44:50Speaker 03

  Oh, so they take, okay.

• 7:44:51Matt Farah?

  They may, they have to make up a fake man because nobody will take them seriously as women. And people will keep wanting to meet the man and they keep kicking the can down the road and the pressure fucking builds.

• 7:45:04Speaker 02

  Kicking the man down the road.

• 7:45:05Matt Farah?

  Until they have to fucking break down the patriarchy!

• 7:45:07Speaker 01

  And Whoopi Goldberg does whiteface in that movie.

• 7:45:10Speaker 03

  Sounds like it.

• 7:45:10Matt Farah?

  She does. She does actually do. Multiple different whitefaces in that movie.

• 7:45:18Speaker 03

  What about, um?

• 7:45:19Speaker 07

  She herded me in here.

• 7:45:21Speaker 01

  What about that's a very Hannah move.

• 7:45:23Speaker 03

  What about White Boys?

• 7:45:24Matt Farah?

  Hi Hannah.

• 7:45:25Speaker 07

  Hi Hannah. We're discussing breaking down the page.

• 7:45:28Speaker 03

  Uh, what's his face?

• 7:45:29Speaker 01

  Wasn't that the Wayans Brothers?

• 7:45:31Speaker 03

  But Terry Crews in White Boys is underrated.

• 7:45:34Speaker 01

  He's hilarious.

• 7:45:35Speaker 03

  He's amazing in that movie.

• 7:45:37Speaker 01

  He is a fantastic comedy actor.

• 7:45:38Matt Farah?

  How do you think this whole scenario is going over to the audience right now? Is it good? Is it bad? Is it good?

• 7:45:44Speaker 03

  There's an audience?

• 7:45:45Speaker 02

  We're the audience.

• 7:45:47Speaker 01

  They're all sticking around.

• 7:45:48Matt Farah?

  They're all still here? Maybe that's just because we've done a fucking thousand of these. Alright, I'm gonna go to Hannah's question. Number nine. Huh? Oh, you want, alright, fine. It wasn't, but I will. Because my wife is the smartest person in the room. Hannah's question, and she wants everybody in the room to answer.

• 7:46:07Speaker 03

  No one argued, by the way.

• 7:46:07Matt Farah?

  Starting with Larry Chen. You have to get a face tattoo. But you get to choose what it is. What are you putting a tattoo of on your face?

• 7:46:20Speaker 01

  How much would Canon pay you? To tattoo Canon 5D? Under like one eye?

• 7:46:27Speaker 07

  But with one tear drop?

• 7:46:28Matt Farah?

  No, just mark, just mark three. Just MK3.

• 7:46:34Speaker 01

  I mean, to look, to look crazy, I would get the tears, right? Like I killed somebody or something?

• 7:46:40Matt Farah?

  Dude, if I was Larry Chen, I would get 70 to 200. Zoom around your fucking eyes.

• 7:46:45Speaker 01

  Just like to, like around my eyes, like a zoom, zoom lens?

• 7:46:48Matt Farah?

  Focal ring. I'll be sick.

• 7:46:52Speaker 03

  Close your eye, get the iris on the outside.

• 7:46:54Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a good idea.

• 7:46:55Matt Farah?

  Dude, if Larry Chen could tattoo his cock with fucking focus rings, that would be the fucking idea.

• 7:47:02Speaker 03

  Look at Hannah's face.

• 7:47:05Speaker 02

  That was not the way the question was framed.

• 7:47:07Matt Farah?

  Hey Matt, what should I tattoo on my cock? If I, if I was a-

• 7:47:11Speaker 02

  The question's changed, everybody.

• 7:47:13Matt Farah?

  If I was a Curtisen, and I saw someone who was a professional photographer, and they had focal rings.

• 7:47:20Speaker 03

  Larry's not, uh, saying no.

• 7:47:22Matt Farah?

  And it would be a zoom, and it would be a zoom.

• 7:47:25Speaker 01

  It'd be a 100 to 500, hell yeah.

• 7:47:29Speaker 03

  Six hundred.

• 7:47:30Matt Farah?

  A lot of sheer. Pass the mic. What is your face tattoo?

• 7:47:33Speaker 07

  Is it, can I just tattoo Larry's little sticker guy? Like, just like on like my jawbone, just like.

• 7:47:41Speaker 07

  Just like Larry right across.

• 7:47:42Speaker 03

  Gotta be on mic, gotta be on mic for that.

• 7:47:44Matt Farah?

  You can't say things away from microphones, huh?

• 7:47:46Speaker 07

  I can't say. Yeah, no, uh, I might just, you know, just, I think that maybe like some chin hairs to like cover the real ones.

• 7:47:55Speaker 03

  Nice.

• 7:47:56Matt Farah?

  If I had to pick a face tattoo for you, it would be right on your cheek and it would say Ram Air.

• 7:48:03Speaker 07

  It would be like a, like a speedometer, like a straight speedometer, like a muscle car, straight, you know, just like.

• 7:48:09Matt Farah?

  Zero to eighty-five.

• 7:48:10Speaker 07

  Zero to eighty-five.

• 7:48:11Speaker 01

  Just a rectangle speedometer.

• 7:48:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:48:13Speaker 07

  Or the Trans Am Turbo lights?

• 7:48:14Matt Farah?

  Oh dude, yeah, for sure. Christian Hand, who has clearly considered this question in the past.

• 7:48:21Speaker 02

  It would have to be tears. You have to.

• 7:48:24Matt Farah?

  It just has to be.

• 7:48:24Speaker 03

  Doesn't that mean you murdered someone in prison?

• 7:48:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Not even in prison, just in, in general, you murdered somebody.

• 7:48:31Matt Farah?

  I've spent a lot of time with Christian and it would benefit him socially if everyone he interacted with questioned if he actually murdered somebody.

• 7:48:42Speaker 02

  It would help hugely.

• 7:48:43Matt Farah?

  Like not confirmed, like he didn't do it, but like everyone was like, dude, Christian, like the tears, that means he murdered somebody, right? You're like, I don't know, man. I met him with those.

• 7:48:51Speaker 07

  Who do you think it would be? Like, who is the most likely person in this room to have actually murdered someone?

• 7:48:55Speaker 03

  Well, let's get to the tattoos.

• 7:48:55Speaker 01

  Jay Ryan's apartment is the cleanest apartment I've ever seen. I have often thought, you, you have all the rubbing alcohol, all the vinegar.

• 7:49:05Speaker 02

  That's true. That's true.

• 7:49:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the right answer is Jay. Yes, definitely Jay. Jay, Jay, what is?

• 7:49:10Speaker 07

  Jay, what's your tattoo?

• 7:49:12Speaker 02

  Cause also, like, the, the nice guy who's much loved by everybody, so when we're interviewed, we're like, I gotta be honest with you, yeah.

• 7:49:17Matt Farah?

  Not me, totally not me.

• 7:49:19Speaker 03

  Also the guy whose wife just died, like, how did she die?

• 7:49:21Matt Farah?

  We don't really know.

• 7:49:24Speaker 07

  Why has there been two sad life moments for me when I've been in this podcast today?

• 7:49:29Matt Farah?

  This, that was the widow's share. Larry really needs to be careful when he goes home. That's all I'm saying.

• 7:49:37Speaker 07

  Actually Larry needs to be careful because his wife's been taking all kinds of like, um, like heavy, uh,

• 7:49:42Speaker 01

  Whoopsie daisy.

• 7:49:42Speaker 07

  Like, uh, what's, what's she doing though?

• 7:49:44Speaker 01

  Jiu-jitsu.

• 7:49:44Matt Farah?

  Sedatives?

• 7:49:45Speaker 07

  Like jiu-jitsu or something.

• 7:49:47Matt Farah?

  Oh shit.

• 7:49:48Speaker 07

  Yeah, and like lifting weights. She's like super badass and so have his kids and so now he's like really scared to go home and be in trouble.

• 7:49:55Matt Farah?

  Well, when she hears that joke, she's, I'm gonna have to be scared too, apparently.

• 7:49:59Speaker 07

  No, no, she, we're on the same page about this.

• 7:50:01Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool. Okay, good. Face tattoos. Finish the game.

• 7:50:06Speaker 03

  I also would have done, I also would have done, uh, tears, but for, you know.

• 7:50:12Matt Farah?

  But for different reasons?

• 7:50:13Speaker 03

  Kind of a guy.

• 7:50:14Matt Farah?

  Ew. So everyone knows you're sad all the time forever and ever?

• 7:50:18Speaker 03

  Well, no, but I don't have, I don't want a fucking face tattoo, so I'm choosing that, but it seems like it's a pretty popular, pretty popular answer.

• 7:50:25Matt Farah?

  Jesus, my wife looked to me like I just did like a horrible thing.

• 7:50:29Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, but that word.

• 7:50:30Speaker 07

  You did horrible things before.

• 7:50:31Matt Farah?

  I've done horrible things before.

• 7:50:33Speaker 02

  I've, I've actually, I've just had a rethink. I think what I would do is like get my eyelids done with get fucked.

• 7:50:39Speaker 01

  That's a good one.

• 7:50:40Speaker 02

  You know, it's like, like, just like. I never need to say anything to anybody ever again.

• 7:50:44Matt Farah?

  Slow blink? You could just slow blink? Alright, alright, cool.

• 7:50:48Speaker 03

  I get, I get a neck tattoo with the sessions on it.

• 7:50:51Speaker 02

  Oh, nice, alright. Neck tattoo is always great.

• 7:50:53Matt Farah?

  I would get my own face, but thinner.

• 7:50:56Speaker 01

  Now, covering your whole face or just on like a corner?

• 7:50:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, full face tattoos, me, but thinner, more hair.

• 7:51:02Speaker 07

  So it would be kind of like those t-shirts of the, like in the bikini.

• 7:51:06Matt Farah?

  Have you ever seen someone with a tattooed abs? Like a fake tattooed abs? It would be that but cheekbones.

• 7:51:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what I'd do, yeah, yeah. That's actually an old Steven Wright joke, right? You know, full, full body tattoo of me, but taller, you know.

• 7:51:17Matt Farah?

  I want, I want a me, but as the pianist.

• 7:51:23Matt Farah?

  Holy fuck, 5:59.

• 7:51:26Speaker 01

  We did it. We're at 8:02:12.

• 7:51:28Speaker 03

  Congrats, everybody.

• 7:51:28Speaker 07

  Wait, what are your tattoos? What are your tattoos? Quickly! Yes, speed round tattoos.

• 7:51:32Matt Farah?

  Sarah?

• 7:51:32Speaker 07

  Uh, mine would just say, "Matt, don't bang on the table."

• 7:51:35Speaker 05

  Yeah!

• 7:51:36Speaker 02

  Shit. Very present. Very present.

• 7:51:39Matt Farah?

  Alright, I'm gonna say this. If we get to 1,500...

• 7:51:43Speaker 03

  Excuse me. No.

• 7:51:45Speaker 01

  What?

• 7:51:46Matt Farah?

  If we get... How many patrons do we have now? It's like 15-something, right?

• 7:51:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, I have to look.

• 7:51:51Matt Farah?

  Alright, well, I'm not gonna say it. If we get to a certain number of patrons, I will get this as a tattoo.

• 7:51:56Speaker 03

  What? Why?

• 7:51:57Matt Farah?

  The thing that says, "Don't bang on the table."

• 7:51:58Speaker 03

  Stop it, stop it. Nobody agrees with this.

• 7:52:00Speaker 01

  Hannah's nodding. Hannah's nodding.

• 7:52:03Speaker 07

  No one supports this. No one.

• 7:52:05Speaker 01

  Bourbon supports this.

• 7:52:06Matt Farah?

  I'm already at the place where I have enough dumb tattoos, and one more tattoo won't make me any dumber.

• 7:52:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:52:12Speaker 02

  It's true.

• 7:52:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's totally true. Just stop.

• 7:52:15Speaker 01

  Look, I will help push this sled. Let's go.

• 7:52:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I've been talking to Steve-O a lot lately. Let's not do this one.

• 7:52:21Speaker 07

  Would you do it on your face?

• 7:52:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 7:52:24Matt Farah?

  Don't bang the microphones on my face?

• 7:52:26Speaker 07

  What is the number of subscribers and patrons that it would take to do it on your face?

• 7:52:31Matt Farah?

  Oh, more than there are.

• 7:52:34Speaker 02

  The thing to do, though, would be to pull the dick move of getting it right here and then growing the beard over it and just being able to walk away.

• 7:52:40Matt Farah?

  What?

• 7:52:40Speaker 03

  Wow!

• 7:52:41Matt Farah?

  What? Just get habibi on my fucking jawbone and then, pfft, gone. Instant gone. Holy shit, that was just eight hours of radio, wasn't it?

• 7:52:51Speaker 01

  We have 1,514 current patrons, so you have to get a tattoo.

• 7:52:54Speaker 03

  Tomorrow.

• 7:52:55Matt Farah?

  1,514 current patrons? That's why I stopped there at the thing without saying that exactly.

• 7:53:02Speaker 07

  If you get 1,515...

• 7:53:04Speaker 01

  If we get one more, Matt will drive him to the tattoo studio right now.

• 7:53:07Speaker 03

  We can make a tattoo gun out of like a guitar string and some...

• 7:53:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, we'll do a jailhouse tattoo.

• 7:53:12Speaker 01

  There's a drill downstairs for sure.

• 7:53:13Matt Farah?

  A lot of people do prison tattoos in West LA.

• 7:53:16Speaker 03

  I will learn, I will learn right now how to do it on you. I will...

• 7:53:20Matt Farah?

  We can... Sean might know. We can ask him.

• 7:53:23Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's good to know.

• 7:53:24Matt Farah?

  It's good to know. Yeah, it's good to check in on those people. Holy fuck, we just did that much radio. That, that went by way faster than I thought.

• 7:53:33Speaker 01

  It actually did. No, it's pretty good.

• 7:53:34Matt Farah?

  I wrote, I did so much show prep and I didn't need any of it.

• 7:53:38Speaker 01

  Exactly. That's what we're explaining. That's what we're explaining to our wives last night. You don't need to do show

• 7:53:43Matt Farah?

  I didn't need fucking any of it dude, I didn't need any of it. It was all stupid. All of it was a waste of time and stress.

• 7:53:50Speaker 07

  I enjoyed the questions.

• 7:53:51Matt Farah?

  The only one that mattered was Hannah's about the face tattoos.

• 7:53:55Speaker 03

  How do you feel?

• 7:53:56Matt Farah?

  Huh?

• 7:53:56Speaker 03

  How do you feel? 1,000 episodes and 8 hours in this extravaganza, how do you feel?

• 7:54:02Matt Farah?

  I feel like a thousand of...

• 7:54:04Speaker 07

  Go on.

• 7:54:07Speaker 01

  You just switched shots there.

• 7:54:08Matt Farah?

  She fucking planned that. That's horse shit. She planned that. That's not why you brought that in. Okay, fine.

• 7:54:15Speaker 02

  It is.

• 7:54:16Matt Farah?

  How are my eyebrows, okay?

• 7:54:18Speaker 02

  We're gonna suck the helium out of the balloons.

• 7:54:20Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, doing, doing, doing a...

• 7:54:22Speaker 03

  You guys haven't been married long enough. Trust me, my wife does look.

• 7:54:27Matt Farah?

  Doing a thousand of anything, one at a time, is very difficult and takes a long time. And the easiest way to not do a thousand of things is to stop doing it. And so...

• 7:54:41Speaker 01

  Put that on a "the more you know" situation.

• 7:54:43Speaker 03

  Tattoo that on your face.

• 7:54:44Matt Farah?

  It's stupid. It's so stupid, but like, that's the thing, is you like, you get up in the morning and then you fucking do it. And like, you make the time for it. You just always make the time for it, even when you're not, right?

• 7:54:57Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 7:54:58Matt Farah?

  I'm not better at this than you are. What's the fucking secret?

• 7:55:01Speaker 01

  We just have to keep doing it.

• 7:55:02Matt Farah?

  You just keep doing it.

• 7:55:04Speaker 01

  If you like doing it, which we do.

• 7:55:05Speaker 03

  The old Woody Allen quote, you know, 80% of success is showing up.

• 7:55:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:55:10Speaker 03

  So.

• 7:55:10Matt Farah?

  I have the thing that Hannah got me behind my desk. It says, "We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things."

• 7:55:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a good motto, though.

• 7:55:17Matt Farah?

  It is. You just keep fucking doing it and you don't, you know...

• 7:55:23Speaker 01

  You can't, it's impossible to keep doing something this often and not improve or progress in some way.

• 7:55:28Speaker 07

  Oh, I agree.

• 7:55:29Speaker 01

  To remain static.

• 7:55:30Speaker 02

  I don't know, have you heard your...

• 7:55:31Matt Farah?

  I mean...

• 7:55:33Speaker 02

  Have you heard Joe Rogan's podcast?

• 7:55:34Speaker 01

  That's a good point.

• 7:55:38Speaker 02

  Instead of you heard Joe Rogan's podcast?

• 7:55:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:55:40Speaker 01

  That has gotten worse.

• 7:55:41Matt Farah?

  You know what dude, we, Spike was in here before and he said that unprompted, Seinfeld said he enjoyed himself last episode. Which that's, I, I can't think of a single more difficult audience. I cannot think-

• 7:55:55Speaker 02

  Than Jerry Seinfeld?

• 7:55:56Speaker 03

  Jerry's getting soft, come on.

• 7:55:57Matt Farah?

  I cannot, I cannot think-

• 7:55:58Speaker 03

  He's very honest about it.

• 7:56:00Matt Farah?

  I can't think of a higher pressure guest than that. And if that guy had fun, then we must be at least reasonably decent at this.

• 7:56:09Speaker 03

  I don't think anyone's debating that you're good.

• 7:56:12Speaker 02

  I would say, I would like to see how you would handle-

• 7:56:15Speaker 03

  This is advanced imposter syndrome manifesting itself right now, Matt. Like, you do deserve the success you've had.

• 7:56:21Matt Farah?

  Whatever.

• 7:56:22Speaker 02

  No, I'd like to, I'd like to see you handle John Doe at a opening party of a ride at the Dotsbury Farm. That is, that is the Vietnam of guests, alright?

• 7:56:35Matt Farah?

  Christian's bad rock radio years, he really wins.

• 7:56:39Speaker 01

  Oh, he's a piece of work.

• 7:56:41Matt Farah?

  Well, so here's, here's, before we fucking close this out and just crush these bottles privately.

• 7:56:48Speaker 03

  Good plan.

• 7:56:50Matt Farah?

  So, we wanna, you know, we wanna do these live shows, right? And I, speaking of advanced imposter syndromes, I generally don't believe that our regular show is something that a live audience is, that it's a live experience. I think it's a good, it's a good podcast.

• 7:57:06Speaker 03

  Preposterous.

• 7:57:07Matt Farah?

  But a live experience. I want, I want Christian to come do his show with us as a double header, a double billing.

• 7:57:14Speaker 03

  You don't, yes, because it's a great show, but also you know you don't need it.

• 7:57:18Matt Farah?

  It would be an even better show, an awesome show.

• 7:57:20Speaker 03

  Hey.

• 7:57:20Speaker 02

  Car, car themed songs?

• 7:57:23Matt Farah?

  It doesn't have to be that. It's just like, it's just like, here's a thing that we really enjoy and that you can, that, that, that everybody who sees it gets closer to a thing in a fun way.

• 7:57:37Speaker 03

  But you, I mean, look, nothing, not even like, anything about Christian's show, just, you don't need that, Matt. Like, if people like you, you're good enough. You know?

• 7:57:47Speaker 01

  I agree with Johnny.

• 7:57:49Matt Farah?

  Alright, yeah, well, I still want to do it.

• 7:57:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, you should do it separately.

• 7:57:54Matt Farah?

  I still want to tour Christian because it would be more fun.

• 7:57:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:57:57Speaker 02

  Agreed.

• 7:57:58Matt Farah?

  Alright, should we, should we hit off? We've done eight hours of radio.

• 7:58:03Speaker 07

  Did anybody watch all eight hours?

• 7:58:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, a couple of people said they did.

• 7:58:06Matt Farah?

  A couple of people did?

• 7:58:07Speaker 01

  They've been playing it the whole time.

• 7:58:07Matt Farah?

  A couple of people said they did all eight hours?

• 7:58:09Speaker 03

  Have you taken questions from the audience?

• 7:58:11Matt Farah?

  Not a one, not a single one.

• 7:58:13Speaker 01

  We probably have so many.

• 7:58:14Speaker 02

  Well, he survived eight hours without going to phones. That's pretty good.

• 7:58:17Matt Farah?

  Not only did I not go to the phones, I barely went to the notepad.

• 7:58:20Speaker 01

  We could just answer all the Patreon questions that they listed for the whole day. Yeah.

• 7:58:25Matt Farah?

  It's gotta be hundreds and hundreds and hundreds.

• 7:58:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, do a follow up where the questions get asked.

• 7:58:29Matt Farah?

  It's not even possible. We have to do a, we'll have to do a follow up.

• 7:58:32Speaker 01

  Sixty-seven, that's a lot of questions.

• 7:58:33Matt Farah?

  That's, that is a lot.

• 7:58:34Speaker 02

  As your friends, congratulations.

• 7:58:36Matt Farah?

  Thanks, guys. We did it!

• 7:58:40Speaker 02

  Well-sold it.

• 7:58:42Matt Farah?

  And here's to a thousand more.

• 7:58:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:58:44Matt Farah?

  A thousand more? That'll only take another...

• 7:58:46Speaker 01

  It'll take less time because we're doing more shows.

• 7:58:48Matt Farah?

  It'll take less time because now we do two at once. It is now. Alright, um, we love everybody. We love our patrons the most. And if you want a live experience, or an ad-free experience, or an unfiltered experience, or the best possible experience, Patreon.com slash The Smoke and Tire Podcast is where you do it. Fucking join in the fun and get this every single week, twice a week as a matter of fact. And all our friends who came by and made the time, um, and, and, and, and joined us and did radio and hung out in the lounge. And, and we, we love you all too. Thank you, guys. Thank you guys for coming. And Johnny's booze is quite good.

• 7:59:28Matt Farah?

  It'll get you drunk!

• 7:59:30Speaker 03

  I've just had two hits since I sat down.

• 7:59:32Matt Farah?

  It's fucking nice!

• 7:59:34Speaker 02

  It's responsible.

• 7:59:38Matt Farah?

  Zach Klapman, Zach Klapman, Zach Klapman, Zach Klapman.

• 7:59:44Speaker 01

  We went through fifteen years now.

• 7:59:48Speaker 02

  Stringfellow Klapman, the...

• 7:59:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Alright, um, you can hit the red button now. The show is over. Thanks, everybody.