In The Leathers w/ Kat Wellington

SUBSCRIBE TO THE BNC CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/45Pspyl Ad Free & Bonus Episodes: https://bit.ly/3OZxwpr MERCH: https://shoptmgstudios.com This week, Brooke is joined in the leathers with the one and only Kat Wellington. The girls talk about Brooke’s writing process with her book, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement, and getting absolutely tow up off the bottle. Join our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/5356639204457124/ Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/5vj8zukj #CashAppPod As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to http://RocketMoney.com/bandc today. Go to https://brooklynbedding.com and use our promo code BNC at checkout to get 30% off sitewide. Go to https://Dupe.com today and find similar products for less. It’s 100% free to use. Stop wasting money on brand names and start saving with https://Dupe.com today. B+C IG: https://www.instagram.com/bncmap/ B+C Twitter: https://twitter.com/bncmap TMG Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/tinymeatgang TMG Studios IG: https://www.instagram.com/realtmgstudios/ TMG Studios Twitter: https://twitter.com/realtmgstudios BROOKE https://www.instagram.com/brookeaverick https://twitter.com/ladyefron https://www.tiktok.com/@ladyefron CONNOR https://www.instagram.com/fibula/ https://twitter.com/fibulaa https://www.tiktok.com/@fibulaa Hosted by Brooke Averick & Connor Wood, Created by TMG Studios, Brooke Averick & Connor Wood, and Produced by TMG Studios, Brooke Averick & Connor Wood. Chapters: 0:00 Brooke and Kat MAP 0:27 Intro 0:44 Two Truths & A Lie 2:30 Kat’s Book Haul 4:30 Football Season Is Back 7:10 Getting Bribed To Read 8:45 Brooke Is Fostering & Raising Kids 14:40 Brooke’s FYP Family 16:28 Kat’s Weekend 18:54 Cash App 20:58 Rocket Money 22:34 Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s Engagement 30:11 Kat Is Tow Up 32:25 Team Conrad vs Team Jeremiah 40:06 Brooke’s Book Writing Process 44:53 Brooklyn Bedding 46:22 Dupe 47:55 Parting Ways With Phoebe 52:22 Brooke Writing Her Second Book 56:33 Deleting Goodreads 1:01:16 Harry Styles Is A Stranger 1:04:09 Getting Humbled As Actors 1:08:22 See You In Bonus!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 1:00Brooke Averick?

  Hey guys, welcome back to

• 1:01Speaker 03

  Hey y'all.

• 1:02Brooke Averick?

  Hey y'all.

• 1:02Speaker 03

  Hey.

• 1:03Brooke Averick?

  Welcome back to Brooke and Kat Make a Podcast today. We've got Kat W. Thank heavens to Betsy. She could be with us today as Connor does not have wifi in the entire state of Michigan.

• 1:13Speaker 03

  Connor is disconnected.

• 1:13Brooke Averick?

  He is completely unplugged, disconnected. And we will miss him, but Kat, I mean, how lucky, how lucky are we to have you?

• 1:22Speaker 03

  But it is good to be in this leather seat with you, Brooke.

• 1:25Brooke Averick?

  It always good to be in the leathers with you.

• 1:44Speaker 03

  I do always miss, we had one with Connor, but you know, I don't usually get Connor on the pod.

• 1:49Brooke Averick?

  No, you don't.

• 1:50Speaker 03

  Connor, you know, you blink and you miss it.

• 1:52Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:53Speaker 03

  So I haven't seen him in a while, but I really miss him.

• 1:56Brooke Averick?

  You're usually stuck with my extremely rubber ass staff.

• 1:59Speaker 03

  And I love that. I love that. I'm not letting Brooke move. When Brooke mentions the word move, I like, I really get very sick.

• 2:05Brooke Averick?

  Where did that come from?

• 2:06Speaker 03

  Connor moves.

• 2:07Brooke Averick?

  Oh, oh, oh, oh.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  Connor actually headed out.

• 2:10Brooke Averick?

  I'm not like moving anytime soon.

• 2:12Speaker 03

  No, you can't.

• 2:13Brooke Averick?

  It's just when I'm lamenting about like the selection of like men in Los Angeles, but it could be

• 2:19Speaker 03

  Brooke wants to like go to like Pennsylvania and she thinks that's where it's gonna happen.

• 2:24Brooke Averick?

  Well, it's also like It's hard to say if I'm being dramatic. I think there's two truths that are existing at the same time.

• 2:31Speaker 03

  Two truths in a lot.

• 2:31Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, one, I am like being dramatic because I'm also like not trying hard.

• 2:36Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:36Brooke Averick?

  And two, I do think LA does have the horrible state, like the worst election of any state.

• 2:41Speaker 03

  No, I think you are being dramatic, but you are, there's also truth to it.

• 2:44Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 2:45Speaker 03

  Completely agree.

• 2:45Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, two truths.

• 2:46Speaker 03

  Like LA is tough, but I do, I do, I do need to seize a little bit more.

• 2:53Brooke Averick?

  I'm not moving anytime soon.

• 2:55Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:55Brooke Averick?

  And also.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  I'm gonna break from dating.

• 2:56Brooke Averick?

  Like when I'm reading a really good romance novel, like I am right now, book lovers, I'm totally fine being single for the rest of my life. Because as long as I have. Yeah, as long as I have, like, just that, uh, input.

• 3:08Speaker 03

  See, I feel like when I'm reading a romance novel, I like accidentally make it about myself where I'm like, I wish I had more of this.

• 3:15Brooke Averick?

  I, I experience that sometimes, but usually it's like, this doesn't, I don't know if I could ever have this because it's too good to be true.

• 3:24Speaker 03

  Right.

• 3:24Brooke Averick?

  So I'm good just like experiencing it.

• 3:26Speaker 03

  It's a story.

• 3:27Brooke Averick?

  Through fiction.

• 3:28Speaker 03

  Right.

• 3:29Brooke Averick?

  In this capacity.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  Well, you know, I haven't been able to read, we went to the bookstore, obviously, and I haven't, I packed up about three to four books.

• 3:37Brooke Averick?

  Tell everyone your haul. You had a really good haul.

• 3:39Speaker 03

  Really good haul. Haven't cracked one open yet. It was about two months ago. Um, I don't remember what they're called. I'm sure you do.

• 3:47Brooke Averick?

  I can tell you.

• 3:48Speaker 03

  The Taylor Jenkins Reid one, I think is called Atmosphere. That's the only one I remember. The one that I'm thinking about starting.

• 3:55Brooke Averick?

  I think about.

• 3:56Speaker 03

  Starting to think about starting. I have packed it now for about three different trips in my backpack. Haven't opened it. Um, Eleanor will be so fine.

• 4:06Brooke Averick?

  Eleanor, you will be so completely fine.

• 4:08Speaker 03

  What is it called?

• 4:09Brooke Averick?

  Eleanor Oliphant. Wait, now I'm getting confused. Eleanor Oliphant is completely fine?

• 4:16Speaker 03

  It was genuinely okay.

• 4:18Brooke Averick?

  She's completely fucking fine. It's Eleanor Oliphant.

• 4:21Speaker 03

  Will be okay.

• 4:22Brooke Averick?

  She will be completely.

• 4:23Speaker 03

  Fine.

• 4:23Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 4:24Speaker 03

  Wow, that sounds like not real.

• 4:26Brooke Averick?

  No, it sounds like something Tristan would say.

• 4:28Speaker 03

  Okay, Eleanor will be so fucking fine.

• 4:32Brooke Averick?

  Totally fine. This is when I was like.

• 4:34Speaker 03

  I'm excited about this.

• 4:34Brooke Averick?

  Trying to name my book and I was like, I want something like Eleanor.

• 4:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. I, I can tell by the cover that I will like it.

• 4:43Brooke Averick?

  You will.

• 4:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, I will.

• 4:45Brooke Averick?

  It's a great book.

• 4:46Speaker 03

  It hasn't happened yet, so I have to give it time.

• 4:48Brooke Averick?

  And then you know the other one you got?

• 4:50Speaker 03

  I don't.

• 4:51Brooke Averick?

  Remarkably bright creatures.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  Oh, yes. I'm excited for that.

• 4:54Brooke Averick?

  That one I just freaking.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  Y'all mind if I talk about books I haven't read?

• 4:59Brooke Averick?

  That's fine, Kat.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  Before that, but they weren't even like something I need to discuss, you know?

• 5:04Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, but you have been, you're a good reader despite you saying that you don't read. Like you read more than the average person.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  Um, well, I think like, because when I do, it'll be like a week of like, oh, I read three books and then I, it'll be like a year of I haven't touched.

• 5:21Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Yeah, but I have high hopes for, um, this haul.

• 5:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I do too, but I kind of thought it'd be like a summer thing and, you know, summer's kind of coming to an end.

• 5:29Brooke Averick?

  Summer. It is still summer. Huge way.

• 5:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. And I guess our summers are a little bit longer here, which is good because I really feel like I can't stress enough, when football starts, like I was at home with my family this weekend watching and football was on and that.

• 5:43Brooke Averick?

  Did it start?

• 5:44Speaker 03

  I mean, something, the Eagles were playing. I don't know.

• 5:46Brooke Averick?

  You were kidding me.

• 5:47Speaker 03

  Preseason, I think.

• 5:48Brooke Averick?

  Preseason started already, Kat?

• 5:50Speaker 03

  Izzy just confirmed preseason.

• 5:51Brooke Averick?

  Started.

• 5:52Speaker 03

  Preseason started and like for everyone else, I know. The Eagles were on the screen playing.

• 6:00Speaker 03

  Can you guys believe Brooke missed a preseason game? She loves the Eagles.

• 6:04Brooke Averick?

  Flirt by that.

• 6:05Speaker 03

  Um, like when football starts for me, I know everyone gets like so excited. You hear the song, oh my God, it's fall. I feel this like huge pit in my stomach because I just feel like it's getting colder.

• 6:15Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  And people are getting angrier and I just don't like the energy in the, the energy in the bars changes. Like it's just a lot heavier. So I was getting really sad and I forgot we lived in LA, so we have a lot longer of warm weather.

• 6:27Brooke Averick?

  We genuinely like summer ends October 1st in LA.

• 6:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's great for me.

• 6:32Brooke Averick?

  I do believe that. I'm trying not to burp. I don't give a fuck.

• 6:36Speaker 03

  I do believe that too.

• 6:41Speaker 03

  Oh, so you said, watch the Eagles and shit like that?

• 6:44Brooke Averick?

  Like I couldn't be more thrilled.

• 6:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:46Brooke Averick?

  About it all.

• 6:47Speaker 03

  Did you do your fantasy draft and get everything squared away?

• 6:50Brooke Averick?

  Exactly.

• 6:51Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 6:51Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. So that will be amazing. Bets are placed, money's already being won.

• 6:57Speaker 03

  Money is coming in.

• 6:58Brooke Averick?

  There was this one time when I was a very young little girl. Um, and my dad was having, I don't remember the specifics, Kat, but there was some sort of like

• 7:08Speaker 03

  Probably the Super Bowl chart.

• 7:09Brooke Averick?

  Super Bowl chart.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:11Brooke Averick?

  Among like my, the Super Bowl party that I was at and you bet and place money and I was eight and just like put my name in the random slot and won among all these men. I won hundreds of dollars when I was little. It was incredible. And ever since then, I've loved football.

• 7:29Speaker 03

  Ever since then, I've been addicted to sports betting since the Super Bowl.

• 7:32Brooke Averick?

  Not that betting since the Super Bowl of 2003.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I actually feel like that's a core memory. Like my family used to have a Super Bowl party every year in our basement, of course, Maryland core. And like, I remember winning a little bit of money on that too, as a very, very, very small child, not as small as you, because you are very petite, but a little bit small.

• 7:54Brooke Averick?

  Doesn't always.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  Um, and I feel like I won some money too. And it is nice to like, you feel like you really, really did something at that time.

• 8:03Brooke Averick?

  And at that age to have $20 in your pocket.

• 8:06Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. Yeah.

• 8:07Brooke Averick?

  What can't you do?

• 8:08Speaker 03

  Right. Um, speaking of $20, at one point, my mom, because I never read, like, and we're talking about reading, my mom offered me like, I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was like $10 per 100 pages or something that I read of books. I ran through the entire Click series, the entire Pretty Little Liars series, uh, and I was actually reading them all. I read so many fucking books. I made thousands of dollars. I went to the mall and I spent it all at Bath and Body Works.

• 8:40Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 8:40Speaker 03

  And like garage and it was amazing.

• 8:43Brooke Averick?

  I bet. That's exactly what your mom was wanting was the Click, Pretty Little Liars, etc.

• 8:47Speaker 03

  There was a point.

• 8:48Brooke Averick?

  That's the loophole.

• 8:49Speaker 03

  There was like, the Click is so easy to read and they're like pretty short and there's a million of them. I love them, but, um, yeah, it did get to a point where she'd be like, okay, this isn't really what I meant, but like you are doing it. So I have to honor the honor code here.

• 9:05Brooke Averick?

  That was the best memory of like getting a series like The Click and like I would only get one at a time because it's like, I love going back to bookstores so much.

• 9:14Speaker 03

  Oh, that's fun.

• 9:14Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. But now I feel like people just buy a series in bulk. But I want to go back to just like buying one at a time so I can go to the bookstore and get every single

• 9:23Speaker 03

  I kinda think like mine were library. My mom was big on like library.

• 9:27Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I was and then became really obsessed with being a collector.

• 9:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, that's way cooler. I wish I had collected.

• 9:36Brooke Averick?

  No, libraries are amazing, too.

• 9:38Speaker 03

  Libraries are great. I, yeah.

• 9:39Brooke Averick?

  That's where I did my Junie B. Jones.

• 9:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:42Brooke Averick?

  Was the library. I had a great time there.

• 9:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:45Brooke Averick?

  But I have to tell you something.

• 9:46Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 9:47Brooke Averick?

  Cause you don't check your phone, your socials, really. I had already blasted this out on there, but you're so unplugged that you've been seeing it yet.

• 9:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, I actually saw a glimmer of something, but I then I couldn't open it because it was too late. So go ahead.

• 10:02Brooke Averick?

  I

• 10:03Speaker 03

  Go ahead.

• 10:04Brooke Averick?

  Am fostering a cat.

• 10:06Speaker 03

  Okay, I saw this.

• 10:08Brooke Averick?

  Fostering a little girl cat.

• 10:10Speaker 03

  What does it look like?

• 10:12Brooke Averick?

  She's beautiful.

• 10:13Speaker 03

  She look like, I'm so sorry.

• 10:14Brooke Averick?

  She's a little gray, like very furry girl. And she's very, very shy. It's hard for me to say.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  Wow, I wonder how she'll react with the boy.

• 10:24Brooke Averick?

  About her at all.

• 10:25Speaker 03

  I'm so excited for you.

• 10:26Brooke Averick?

  I know.

• 10:27Speaker 03

  And you get her today, right? Because that's all I saw is because the Friends of Normie post had expired, so I couldn't see the young woman, but I saw you said, I'm gonna pick her up today, so.

• 10:36Brooke Averick?

  Well, it was posted, Friends of Normie is where I got robbed. They're just like the greatest

• 10:41Speaker 03

  Very sweet.

• 10:41Brooke Averick?

  Rescue in the Los Angeles area. Love them. But it was posted like 23 hours ago that like this girl, this little girl cat needed a home. And I was like, okay, like, I'm sure she's, she's been taken by now.

• 10:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:55Brooke Averick?

  But let me just check. And she was, she wasn't. So she's, she's coming home.

• 10:59Speaker 03

  Do you think you're gonna end up keeping her?

• 11:01Brooke Averick?

  No, and that's why I responded because I, I think I'll be able to be good.

• 11:06Speaker 03

  Oh, we have an image?

• 11:07Brooke Averick?

  I don't think that's her, but that's Friends of Normie.

• 11:11Brooke Averick?

  Um, I think I would have a problem with a cat that like came right up and like cuddled into my neck like John and Rob. Like, I don't think I'd be able to let someone like that slip out of my grip.

• 11:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:23Brooke Averick?

  Like, I wouldn't. But I think she's like very shy.

• 11:26Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 11:26Brooke Averick?

  So maybe we won't like have that like mother-daughter.

• 11:31Speaker 03

  Right.

• 11:31Brooke Averick?

  Moment, which I don't want, because I don't want a third cat.

• 11:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, yeah, I feel very overwhelmed with my cats.

• 11:38Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 11:38Speaker 03

  In a way where like literally yesterday, I was like, I could never have kids because my two cats are like far too much.

• 11:43Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  And cats are very limiting. So imagine if I had to like walk a dog.

• 11:46Brooke Averick?

  No. I literally, I've said this before, but like my entire view on having children has shifted. Since I got the boys.

• 11:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:55Brooke Averick?

  Like in a, in a massive way.

• 11:57Speaker 03

  I mean, Cheddar, right now, I just went away for three days and Cheddar's rebelling by pooping next to his box, his clean box. Um, and it's just like, it's just nonstop. I feel like I come sprinting around for these gentlemen. They are my, they run my life.

• 12:11Brooke Averick?

  No, I do. I don't know if everyone's cats are.

• 12:14Speaker 03

  No, there's no way.

• 12:16Brooke Averick?

  Like, they're so, but, but all four of our boys, it's just like, it's all the time. It's like screaming, like.

• 12:23Speaker 03

  Screaming, fighting.

• 12:24Brooke Averick?

  My boys are knocking everything over, shattering. In the middle of the night, I'm woken up, glass shattering.

• 12:30Speaker 03

  Have you, have you told them about your rug?

• 12:33Brooke Averick?

  It's just like, I have a rug.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  I know.

• 12:37Brooke Averick?

  I can't even, I, they tear it up like from.

• 12:41Speaker 03

  Brand new rug.

• 12:42Brooke Averick?

  From the brand new gorgeous, they, from the, from the ground up. Basically, they're tearing every fiber out of the rug. I have gotten them 80,000 scratching things. I've put scratching mats down on the rug. They're just on scratch next to the mat, onto the rug.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  I would say like Brooke's apartment is more cat scratching post-surface area than there is like regular ground.

• 13:06Brooke Averick?

  And they will just do the six penny chairs. Those are completely fucked.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  Shattered.

• 13:11Brooke Averick?

  Those, I'm waiting till they stop scratching and I'm gonna hopefully get them recovered. But I don't, I don't, it doesn't seem like they'll ever stop scratching. The joy bird is now completely.

• 13:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:19Brooke Averick?

  Destroyed.

• 13:19Speaker 03

  It was only a matter of time, the joy bird, the joy bird.

• 13:22Brooke Averick?

  The joy bird.

• 13:23Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:23Brooke Averick?

  The rug and I'll vacuum up, they like, it's just constantly like loose strings.

• 13:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:28Brooke Averick?

  And I'll vacuum them up, turn around, plug the vacuum in, immediately destroyed again. I don't know how there's any rug left.

• 13:36Speaker 03

  No, I agree because it still looks pretty after you scrape.

• 13:39Brooke Averick?

  It's like, I wouldn't say pretty, but like it's not, it's still a rug. Like I don't know how it's not just a shred. You know?

• 13:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, I do know.

• 13:47Brooke Averick?

  So.

• 13:48Speaker 03

  So y'all, y'all give a shit about.

• 13:49Brooke Averick?

  I would say like my house, everything in it is pretty destroyed. Like I can't have anything nice.

• 13:54Speaker 03

  It doesn't look like that though.

• 13:56Brooke Averick?

  Does if you look a little bit close.

• 13:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, but like you're looking close. Like me when I walk in, I'm not looking at that.

• 14:03Brooke Averick?

  And like in some people's houses that have cats, like there's not litter everywhere. Like I can't walk barefoot, no matter how much I vacuum.

• 14:10Speaker 03

  Well, that's just.

• 14:11Brooke Averick?

  I've littered my bed.

• 14:12Speaker 03

  That's the anatomy, that's the anatomy of your home, unfortunately. Like you're, it's just.

• 14:18Brooke Averick?

  I don't have like a separate space.

• 14:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, like my laundry room, I will not go in there without shoes. Like there's shoes set there because there's litter everywhere.

• 14:26Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 14:26Speaker 03

  And then it also kind of tracks into the kitchen, which is super pretty. Um, but yeah, like, so I do think there's litter everywhere for other people, but yours just happens to be in the dining restaurant, the dining area.

• 14:37Brooke Averick?

  I've started having to lint roll the soles of my feet before I get into bed. Does that make sense?

• 14:42Speaker 03

  No, I, yeah, I do a big like scrape.

• 14:44Brooke Averick?

  A big scrape. It's incredible. I love my boys more than.

• 14:48Speaker 03

  They're very sweet.

• 14:49Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, no, they're amazing.

• 14:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, I like them.

• 14:52Brooke Averick?

  Being a cat mom is, has been the, the greatest.

• 14:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. And you're about to get a daughter.

• 14:57Brooke Averick?

  I'm about, well.

• 14:58Speaker 03

  A temporary daughter.

• 14:59Brooke Averick?

  About to get a niece.

• 15:00Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 15:00Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I'm really scared I'm going to keep her. I don't think, I can't, I literally can't.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  I honestly like, I'm at a place where I, because my kitten, I mean, I guess he's about to turn like a year, is so high maintenance. I cannot have another animal.

• 15:15Brooke Averick?

  I can't either.

• 15:15Speaker 03

  No, I know. So I, I agree. Like I don't think you should keep, what's her name?

• 15:19Brooke Averick?

  Safran.

• 15:20Speaker 03

  Safran.

• 15:21Brooke Averick?

  Safran.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  Zac Efron.

• 15:25Brooke Averick?

  Lady Safran.

• 15:28Speaker 03

  So yeah, I don't know. But I mean, you know, she might fit in great with the gentleman.

• 15:33Brooke Averick?

  I do wonder.

• 15:33Speaker 03

  I was scared we were going to talk about our cat the whole time.

• 15:35Brooke Averick?

  It's fine to do.

• 15:36Speaker 03

  I know. It's really all we like talk about because it's our favorite thing to talk about.

• 15:41Brooke Averick?

  I've been getting these AI cat podcasting videos. You seen them?

• 15:46Speaker 03

  No.

• 15:47Brooke Averick?

  It's like, just like these two cats.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  I haven't had a chance to scroll through our TikTok DMs, but I think there's like 10 in a row of just cats.

• 15:57Brooke Averick?

  I keep getting these AI cats podcasting and they're like, and you wouldn't guess where I splayed out in the bed, right on top of her legs and then they start laughing.

• 16:09Brooke Averick?

  They crack my ass up.

• 16:10Speaker 03

  For you, Paige is very different than most people's like, I know that that that could come across mine easily, but and we have a lot of overlap. But then there's also some shit you send me that I'm like, wow, this is great because this would have never crossed my personal desk.

• 16:26Brooke Averick?

  I have, and like, we can do this in bonus. We can check in with everyone. Like, I have a family.

• 16:31Speaker 03

  I was really wanting, have you talked about them before?

• 16:34Brooke Averick?

  Which who? Which ones?

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 16:36Brooke Averick?

  Like some characters, but like I have like recurring characters that I got on my free page that I consider parts of my family.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:44Brooke Averick?

  That like I'll send to people and like, I feel like definitely.

• 16:46Speaker 03

  She's just introducing me to her family. So she'll send and be like, this is so and so, just so you have them on your radar.

• 16:52Brooke Averick?

  Denise Salany real or whatever and stuff like that.

• 16:54Speaker 03

  That family, like I had never seen them. Now sometimes they'll pop up because I watch. And then there's a new gentleman. Or is she a woman? I'm so fucking sorry.

• 17:04Brooke Averick?

  No, you're good.

• 17:06Speaker 03

  I haven't like tuned into the content.

• 17:07Brooke Averick?

  Not right now.

• 17:09Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 17:10Brooke Averick?

  Jury's, jury's out on, on that person right now.

• 17:13Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 17:14Brooke Averick?

  Kind of following that journey.

• 17:15Speaker 03

  All right. We can talk about it on the bonus.

• 17:17Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  The other characters.

• 17:19Brooke Averick?

  But I really just, I am really curious about your weekend because you had a really, a really, you had a huge one.

• 17:25Speaker 03

  Brooke, that's really sweet. I'm curious about your weekend too. I didn't talk to anyone all weekend.

• 17:32Speaker 03

  My best friend got engaged, which I'm just like, yay. Emily, she's been on obsessed, if y'all remember, you know, from the archives.

• 17:40Brooke Averick?

  Your co-host.

• 17:41Speaker 03

  Well, also my co-host, I'm sorry, I'm talking to your community, but my co-host of my pod that has since retired as well. But anyway, yeah, it was great. It was really amazing. I was home since Thursday and I couldn't like see her or talk to her, which was weird. And then it was very much like party planning. If you need to get flowers, I hit Trader Joe's at 8 a.m. and got like $250 worth of flowers and we had like flowers everywhere. Like it just felt like it was amazing.

• 18:11Brooke Averick?

  Wow. It looked amazing.

• 18:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was really pretty. And then she was actually so surprised.

• 18:17Brooke Averick?

  You said someone gave it away. So walk me through that.

• 18:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, I had texted Brooke, like, I thought there was, someone had texted like, and said, boarding, like, in a group chat with her, that she didn't know was coming home. So I was like, she's too smart to, like, to not pick up, pick up on that. But I guess Kyle, her fiance.

• 18:36Brooke Averick?

  She wasn't being smart.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  Well, I think she had, she really wanted to be surprised. So I think, I guess, if you know you're getting engaged within the year or whatever, like, she was kind of like, not wanting to be disappointed. So she wasn't looking into things as much as she normally would.

• 18:51Brooke Averick?

  Oh, good for her.

• 18:52Speaker 03

  Whereas like, they've been together nine years, like, five years ago, I think she would have been like, he's proposing. Like, she just like, she would always.

• 18:57Brooke Averick?

  Nine years.

• 18:58Speaker 03

  Nine years. And like, even in college, all the time, she would be like, he's, I know he's surprising me. And I'd be like, Emily, he is not surprising me. Like, I'm telling you right now, he's not coming. So I think she tried to like, you know, let her guard down a bit. And she was really surprised. I was sobbing my eyes out.

• 19:14Brooke Averick?

  Oh, my God.

• 19:15Speaker 03

  It's really sweet. And then I thought they got engaged at the exact same time as Taylor and Travis. But then I actually just found out this morning, because I was feeling like Travis was down the same time Kyle was down. Because Emily's a huge Taylor. I mean, I am as well, I'm a huge Taylor Swift fan. And I just felt like they were really aligned. But I found out, which you might not know, it was actually after the New Heights podcast.

• 19:37Brooke Averick?

  Really?

• 19:38Speaker 03

  They walked out, and that had been set up.

• 19:40Brooke Averick?

  After recording?

• 19:41Speaker 03

  That had been set up while they were recording, at Travis's home piece.

• 19:44Brooke Averick?

  That's, that'll be fun to re-watch and be like, was Travis nervous, like, etc.

• 19:48Speaker 03

  I know, what?

• 19:49Brooke Averick?

  Like, I'm not doing, I'm not recording a podcast seconds before my, I'm proposing.

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• 20:25Speaker 01

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• 20:54Speaker 03

  No, like, I don't really understand, but I guess it's a good way to get her surprised and like, I have no idea and have her secluded in a room.

• 21:03Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 21:04Speaker 03

  But I, you know, the hardest thing I've had to go through as of recent is being in a friend group who is not Swifties while shit like this is happening.

• 21:16Brooke Averick?

  Well.

• 21:17Speaker 03

  Because like, I am over the moon for them. And I, like, the second they started dating, I was just like, I mean, everyone's saying this, but I like, felt like this was correct for her.

• 21:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 21:27Speaker 03

  Okay? And like, it just is. And it looks very similar to the watches and rings that I have.

• 21:32Brooke Averick?

  And, does it?

• 21:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:35Brooke Averick?

  I love that.

• 21:36Speaker 03

  Brooke, I'm just kidding.

• 21:36Brooke Averick?

  You know me, I'm not, not.

• 21:39Speaker 03

  No, you're fine. You're fine, but like.

• 21:41Brooke Averick?

  You know, when my, like, Taylor Swift comes on, like, I will be, I will sing it.

• 21:45Speaker 03

  Dude, Brooke, like, Brooke plays it down. We're at our friend's birthday party like, two weeks ago. We're doing All Too Well 10 Minute. Brooke's like, "Yeah, I kind of like Taylor Swift." Like, "I'll sing along, like, I like Folklore," whatever. She knows every word to 10 minutes.

• 22:00Brooke Averick?

  I know every word to the 10 minute. I know every song on Folklore.

• 22:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know.

• 22:04Brooke Averick?

  All the old songs I love. I love most of the songs on Reputation. And then some other, Red. Like, I love truly most of them.

• 22:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:14Brooke Averick?

  I did not like Midnight.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  I'm not a big Midnight's girl either. I'm not, also not a big Reputation girl, which is kind of controversial.

• 22:21Brooke Averick?

  I don't know, I mean, I love like, Getaway Car, Dancing With Our Hands, side, etc.

• 22:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:28Brooke Averick?

  Um, but I'm really struggling getting invested in the, in her personal life, which is hard for me because I find myself invested in most people's personal lives.

• 22:37Speaker 03

  I'm kind of the opposite. I think I'm only invested in her personal life because she's been a part of my personal life since I was, you know, she's my first concert when I was like seven or whatever. So I do feel like that because I have trouble getting invested in people's personal life.

• 22:53Brooke Averick?

  And that is not an area where I struggle.

• 22:56Speaker 03

  I would have a hard time collab posting with my fiance named Killer Travis. I think I'd be like, let's change it up before we collab. Yeah. Hey, it is what it is.

• 23:07Brooke Averick?

  But maybe she really likes him, just like.

• 23:09Speaker 03

  She does.

• 23:09Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 23:10Speaker 03

  She likes the guy.

• 23:11Brooke Averick?

  She really likes the guy.

• 23:12Speaker 03

  Like I just feel the way that everyone feels like it's so nice to see her. Like someone like really out loud, like defend her and love her. It's really beautiful to me.

• 23:22Brooke Averick?

  No, I think that's great for anyone. Everyone should have that.

• 23:25Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 23:26Brooke Averick?

  And listen, I'm happy for them. That looks great.

• 23:28Speaker 03

  It really looks beautiful.

• 23:30Brooke Averick?

  I just, you know, I wish I could be like, care more, be as excited as everyone because it's, it's fun. You know, it's really fun to be on something.

• 23:38Speaker 03

  It's fun.

• 23:39Brooke Averick?

  Can't get myself there, but I'm happy for them.

• 23:41Speaker 03

  I don't think you personally need to feel that way. I have trouble when people are like mean about it.

• 23:45Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  You know what I mean?

• 23:46Brooke Averick?

  No, I totally get that.

• 23:48Speaker 03

  Because I'm like, why do you either don't give a fuck or give a fuck?

• 23:51Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  That's how I feel.

• 23:52Brooke Averick?

  I completely get that.

• 23:52Speaker 03

  But they look beautiful. I'm very happy for them. I feel like they're going to be like poppy, popping out kids.

• 23:58Brooke Averick?

  Oh my God, I never thought about her having kids for whatever reason.

• 24:00Speaker 03

  She wants kids.

• 24:01Brooke Averick?

  Does she?

• 24:02Speaker 03

  I think.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  I feel like they, you know, I feel like they talk about the, the girls, Jason's girls. I don't know if there's only girls all the time and I just think they're gonna have kids.

• 24:15Brooke Averick?

  To me, I feel like Taylor's the kind of girl, I mean, I don't know one thing about her.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, yes.

• 24:20Brooke Averick?

  But that's like, oh, I don't want kids and then meets like some, the right one, like Travis. And then she can see herself with a really big family.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  Right.

• 24:28Brooke Averick?

  That makes sense.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  No, totally.

• 24:30Brooke Averick?

  So.

• 24:30Speaker 03

  She's, yeah, she's a very independent girl where I could see her also like as a defense mechanism being like, I don't know, I'll be fine without them. Like, you know, me, yeah.

• 24:41Speaker 03

  Totally me.

• 24:42Brooke Averick?

  My romance novels, I'm all good.

• 24:45Speaker 03

  We have these conversations all the time where we're like, I don't think we need a.

• 24:49Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, yeah, like we're good.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  But I'm sure I'll at a point where I'm like, I do need them, so and we'll be adopting.

• 24:57Brooke Averick?

  Yep.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  Family together.

• 24:59Brooke Averick?

  Yep. I do like the caption.

• 25:02Speaker 03

  I do too.

• 25:03Brooke Averick?

  It's like very true. Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married. I agree.

• 25:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:07Brooke Averick?

  I completely agree with that.

• 25:08Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, Miles, obviously, Miles was the first, Miles was my boyfriend. He was the first one I saw text me about it because I'm sure at work it was like a big thing. And I hadn't been on Instagram yet. And he texted me Taylor Swift got married.

• 25:22Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 25:22Speaker 03

  So I had actually thought they eloped.

• 25:23Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 25:24Speaker 03

  But yeah, he didn't care for the caption randomly.

• 25:26Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I think it's funny.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  I think it's so cute. And it's like something that people have said.

• 25:30Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 25:31Speaker 03

  A lot. I think it's adorable.

• 25:33Brooke Averick?

  I, I do. I, I think it's adorable because it's like extremely accurate.

• 25:37Speaker 03

  Right.

• 25:38Brooke Averick?

  Like that is an English teacher and that is a gym teacher.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, if it wasn't accurate, it would be cringe, but it just is. I can't see the like number. What does it say?

• 25:46Brooke Averick?

  It's, I would get, okay, that's 30 million.

• 25:49Speaker 03

  Okay. That's fine.

• 25:51Brooke Averick?

  Wait, I'm going to practice my big number reading. 30 million, 300, I see.

• 25:56Speaker 03

  350,000.

• 25:57Brooke Averick?

  350,544.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:00Brooke Averick?

  I agree.

• 26:00Speaker 03

  I do too.

• 26:01Brooke Averick?

  Sometimes I get a little tripped up and people say that it's not okay.

• 26:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. So if it had one more number, like in the front, it would be a billion.

• 26:08Brooke Averick?

  Agreed.

• 26:09Speaker 03

  Or I guess two.

• 26:10Brooke Averick?

  But for now, it's 30 million, 350,544.

• 26:16Speaker 03

  Do we know them? Like, I, I thought they were going to kind of break like most liked, but.

• 26:19Brooke Averick?

  What is the most liked photo?

• 26:21Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 26:22Brooke Averick?

  Dot com.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  Let's see.

• 26:23Brooke Averick?

  Izzy's got, got it.

• 26:25Speaker 03

  I remember there being like a weird situation with eggs or like.

• 26:29Brooke Averick?

  Oh, Lionel Messi.

• 26:30Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 26:31Brooke Averick?

  That's 78 million.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  Oh, there's an egg. Okay, I see.

• 26:35Brooke Averick?

  Justin egg?

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, like people rallied behind this egg.

• 26:41Brooke Averick?

  It's just an egg.

• 26:42Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 26:44Brooke Averick?

  How many likes does this have?

• 26:46Speaker 03

  Sixty million. Sixty million. It's doubled Taylor and Travis.

• 26:51Brooke Averick?

  Oh, nice.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  I bet they feel so dumb.

• 26:54Brooke Averick?

  Oh, my God. How embarrassing.

• 26:56Speaker 03

  How embarrassing.

• 26:57Brooke Averick?

  Oh, my God.

• 26:57Speaker 03

  And my friend Emily's about to post today when she gets photographer photos back and she's gonna ratio so bad.

• 27:03Brooke Averick?

  She's gonna ratio so bad.

• 27:04Speaker 03

  I feel so bad for Taylor.

• 27:06Brooke Averick?

  Were you in the space when Kyle got down on me?

• 27:10Speaker 03

  No, no, I wasn't.

• 27:10Brooke Averick?

  It was just them?

• 27:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, they, they obviously wanted it to be just them, which I thought was so cute. Um, but no, I could, I could feel it when he went down, though.

• 27:19Brooke Averick?

  Really?

• 27:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:20Brooke Averick?

  And then?

• 27:21Speaker 03

  This is my best friend since I was like six. I could really feel it.

• 27:25Brooke Averick?

  And then, like, when did you meet up with them? And was it at the same space, etc.?

• 27:30Speaker 03

  No, not the same space. It was at like this garden, um, beautiful garden. And then they came, actually, they actually went home, which I thought was sweet. They went home and that's when she got changed and got ready. And they like had a moment.

• 27:42Brooke Averick?

  How did you know to wear a beautiful white dress?

• 27:43Speaker 03

  I had provided her with three beautiful white dresses and shoes and etc. So.

• 27:49Brooke Averick?

  Oh, wait, like after she got engaged?

• 27:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:51Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 27:52Speaker 03

  Not, not to like ruin the surprise. Like, she got engaged in her jeans,

• 27:55Brooke Averick?

  Okay, I thought she was engaged.

• 27:56Speaker 03

  Jeans and Skims bodysuit.

• 27:58Brooke Averick?

  Nice.

• 27:58Speaker 03

  Because she actually didn't know. And then I gave her dress options because she knew there was gonna be a party because she'd always ask for a party.

• 28:04Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  So then I saw her at the party for the first time. I asked someone to take a video of us like hugging and is my friend, a man, zoomed so far in to the left of us. So there's no like, he kind of missed the moment, but it's so fine. Oh, my God.

• 28:22Speaker 03

  Anyway. Then we, yeah, then we just got really drunk until 3 a.m. That's not gonna help the cat being drunk rumors, but, um, it was great.

• 28:30Brooke Averick?

  Can you, we, I, everyone here knows that like cat being tow up is like an amazing bit.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  Amazing.

• 28:36Brooke Averick?

  Are you able to speak on the, um, comments that you were getting on that one brand deal?

• 28:41Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. I guess I just won't say the brand, but you know, I posted an alcohol brand deal. I'm like obviously responsible with my alcohol. And I guess most of the comments were just like,

• 28:57Brooke Averick?

  This makes sense.

• 28:58Speaker 03

  Like this makes sense. Like, put the bottle down. Like, of course. Like, I can't remember. There were some really funny ones. Like, I don't remember the exact words, but just like in all in that, you know, in that category. And the brand shoots out an email to me that says, like, screenshots of all these comments, Tristan's being one of them, by the way. I don't know what Tristan's was. And they're like, these need to be deleted.

• 29:19Brooke Averick?

  Like, our girl's back on the bottle in a pretty good way.

• 29:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, back on the bottle. Like, please put the bottle down. Like, just like insane.

• 29:26Brooke Averick?

  We're worried for your health.

• 29:27Speaker 03

  We're very worried. So they were like, this is just like promoting irresponsible drinking. Like, we have to take these down. And I didn't see it till like a day later. And anyway.

• 29:37Brooke Averick?

  And wasn't your manager like, no, it's a bit? And they were like, it doesn't matter.

• 29:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, my manager sent, um, actually clips from Not That Y'all Care to like, which I'm glad that she did to give some context of like, this wasn't just people saying I'm an alcoholic.

• 29:51Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 29:51Speaker 03

  Cause that's been an issue. Like, obviously there are people that don't follow me, or that don't follow B and C and Not That Y'all Care. I guess it's not really B and C, but maybe the episode they were on, um, whatever, to like, understand. Like, obviously there's a lot of overlap, but not every single individual. So I guess a lot of people just think I'm an alcoholic, which is fine. Uh, I don't, it doesn't matter. But yeah, they, my manager sent the clip and then they were like, is you still need, like, it's still bad luck.

• 30:19Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

• 30:21Speaker 03

  But I'm glad they at least have the context.

• 30:22Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. No, that was killing me.

• 30:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:25Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, in an amazing way.

• 30:27Speaker 03

  Um, do you mind if I use the restroom really quick?

• 30:30Brooke Averick?

  I knew that was coming. I could see you getting unsettled.

• 30:38Brooke Averick?

  I knew it. Yeah, Kat, go ahead, baby.

• 30:43Brooke Averick?

  Hey, Kat, welcome back.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  Thank you. Sorry about that.

• 30:46Brooke Averick?

  All good.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  Not acceptable.

• 30:47Brooke Averick?

  It is.

• 30:48Speaker 03

  No, it's not. No, I don't want anyone in there for about two to three months.

• 30:52Brooke Averick?

  I'm just happy you're, you're happy and well.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I actually feel much better. Thank you so much.

• 30:56Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, no problem. Are you watching the summer I turned pretty?

• 30:59Speaker 03

  No, they lost me.

• 31:02Brooke Averick?

  When did they lose you?

• 31:03Speaker 03

  Um, you know, it doesn't feel like a show that I actually had posted a video saying like, I don't know if this is season one or season two being like, talking about the age I am watching the show being like, I love it and I'm 25, whatever, 26, I don't know. And the author commented and was like, kind of upset and she's like, this show is for everyone. Like, and I was like, I feel horrible.

• 31:25Brooke Averick?

  Jenny commented?

• 31:27Speaker 03

  Jenny commented and was like, this post is like, I, I don't, she deleted it. Whatever she said, she deleted it.

• 31:34Brooke Averick?

  Ooh, that's giving me a pit.

• 31:36Speaker 03

  Well, she, I think she was just trying to be nice, but like,

• 31:39Brooke Averick?

  It came off sharp.

• 31:40Speaker 03

  I was like, I think she didn't like that I was saying like a joke about my age and watching the show. Cause she was like, it's for, the show is for everyone. The books are for everyone. But I'm like, I think my 12 year old sister's watching as well. I do feel like it's more for her.

• 31:54Brooke Averick?

  A hundred percent.

• 31:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I just, I feel like I aged out of it. Kind of not that, I mean, everyone can watch and enjoy.

• 32:01Brooke Averick?

  Different age wa- ages watch it for a different purpose. Like,

• 32:04Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 32:04Brooke Averick?

  A 12 year old would watch it and be like, damn, this is like good shit. Like this is good shit. And we're watching just like, there's no way.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, it just,

• 32:13Brooke Averick?

  In an amazing way though.

• 32:15Speaker 03

  Yeah. To me, like, I would watch it with you, um, or, you know, any of our friends. Like, it's one of those shows, I like, want to be like hungover on a Sunday with my friends, like ordering a bunch of food and watching it all day. That's how I feel. I don't feel like I can like lock in in my house by myself on season three.

• 32:33Brooke Averick?

  I couldn't do by myself. I've been watching with Sodi.

• 32:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:35Brooke Averick?

  We just got all caught up.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  I get that. You know, I live far away.

• 32:38Brooke Averick?

  Um, yeah, no, you live in a different city.

• 32:40Speaker 03

  How are you feeling as someone who is watching?

• 32:43Brooke Averick?

  It's, it's definitely tougher than I'd like.

• 32:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:46Brooke Averick?

  Kat, um, Jeremiah is a very hard character to, to stomach. For me.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:54Brooke Averick?

  Um, and just, most, I would say, most of the characters are, are pretty difficult. Except, really, except for like Conrad, who like, of course, has his flaws, but it just like, it's obvi- just like so clear. That like, she has to end up with him. I'm just like, let's just cut the shit and,

• 33:09Speaker 03

  Right.

• 33:09Brooke Averick?

  And cut the shit.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  I agree. Yeah. I think I kind of lost any character that I gave a shit about. I think that's what happened to me.

• 33:17Brooke Averick?

  Right. And also, I don't know how the books ended, but like, to me, it's like Conrad is the answer. Right? But like, how in good faith is she gonna

• 33:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 33:29Brooke Averick?

  end up with uh, the brother of somebody she's been with for like five years?

• 33:35Speaker 03

  That's where, so I obviously know everything. It's not like I'm not watching clips.

• 33:40Brooke Averick?

  You can't not.

• 33:41Speaker 03

  I know what's going on. So yeah, that's my thing. Like anytime it's sibling things, I'm like, there's no way out because even if you switch back to the other one, like that is, then it's, that's your brother in law. Like it doesn't.

• 33:54Brooke Averick?

  Like, what are you gonna do?

• 33:55Speaker 03

  Like, you need to run away. That's the only way.

• 33:58Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. And like, it was one thing when she was like dating Conrad for a bit of time and then went to Jeremiah.

• 34:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:04Brooke Averick?

  But then to go back to Conrad after a, an engagement and a like five year relationship, that I'm not.

• 34:10Speaker 03

  I didn't realize they were together for five years.

• 34:11Brooke Averick?

  What I, like four, maybe?

• 34:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, either way, it's crazy. Yeah.

• 34:15Brooke Averick?

  What I think is going to happen is that everyone's gonna end up on their own. And then they're gonna pull like a kissing booth, which was like a three years later thing. And then Jacob Elordi sees Joey King with her unique haircut. And then just like the last shot is him like waving at her like, hey champ, like, and just like leaving, leaving it like open ended.

• 34:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess that's, that's what they're gonna have to do.

• 34:39Brooke Averick?

  They literally can't.

• 34:41Speaker 03

  I feel like I.

• 34:42Brooke Averick?

  No one can end up together.

• 34:43Speaker 03

  I feel like it must be different from the book ending because I feel like that's something people would be. Or maybe not, I guess. You know what happened?

• 34:50Brooke Averick?

  No, I don't know what happened in the book. I don't want to know.

• 34:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:53Brooke Averick?

  But I do feel like this is the kind of show where they'll do a switch up.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. A little fast forward.

• 35:00Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 35:00Speaker 03

  There's nothing like a fast forward to write you out of something crazy.

• 35:04Brooke Averick?

  Fast forwards to me can be a pretty big cop out.

• 35:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can see that. I, I kind of like it because I like, I really like when there's like a five years later thing at the end. I get really excited.

• 35:16Brooke Averick?

  It's fine as an epilogue, but when they do it like mid, like when they did it with Pretty Little Liars, I'm like, y'all don't need to be doing this like mid show.

• 35:23Speaker 03

  Right. Now I agree with that. Um, yeah, I can't watch, but like I, you know, I support everyone.

• 35:31Brooke Averick?

  No, I just wanted everyone to know that I am watching. I'm all caught up.

• 35:34Speaker 03

  I actually didn't know you were watching.

• 35:35Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I'm kind of quiet about it.

• 35:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, you are. Tristan and Janie are loud about it.

• 35:39Brooke Averick?

  I like can't enter the narrative because people are so.

• 35:45Brooke Averick?

  So passionate and cutthroat.

• 35:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:47Brooke Averick?

  That to me, I'm just like, it's not something that I'm, I'm willing to die on.

• 35:51Speaker 03

  I saw someone, I don't remember who it was, like getting canceled for being Team Jeremiah.

• 35:58Brooke Averick?

  I feel like it was Drew.

• 36:00Speaker 03

  Yes, that's who it was.

• 36:01Brooke Averick?

  It's like making me like, it's stressing me out. The poor girl is, she's Team Jeremiah. Love the girl. Don't get that. Still love the girl.

• 36:07Speaker 03

  But then she even, I think.

• 36:09Brooke Averick?

  Which is fine.

• 36:10Speaker 03

  She responded and was like, wait, what? Don't give a fuck.

• 36:14Brooke Averick?

  Literally, she's just having fun. And like, I just don't understand. Like, I see that and I'm like, whoa.

• 36:20Speaker 03

  But you know, at least you're, you're on the majority side. Like, you're Team Edward.

• 36:25Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. See, that's what it is to me. It's like Edward's not a perfect guy. Like, he has, he definitely has flaws, but it's just like, you know Edward and Bella are supposed to end up together, right? That's what I feel about Conrad. It's just like, is what it is.

• 36:37Speaker 03

  It is crazy. Conrad's so Edward and.

• 36:40Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 36:41Speaker 03

  Jacob's so Jeremiah.

• 36:42Brooke Averick?

  Completely. Except for Jacob. Jacob like is a good guy and like he deserved to be happy. Whether it was with, uh, Renesmee or not, up for debate, but he deserved to be happy. Jeremiah, I'm like, I don't, I don't feel that way about Jeremiah.

• 36:58Speaker 03

  I don't know, like, I just know he's, I just know he's kind of strange, but is he like doing bad shit?

• 37:03Brooke Averick?

  He cheated on Belly in a pretty amazing way.

• 37:06Speaker 03

  Oh, cool.

• 37:07Brooke Averick?

  In a pretty big way.

• 37:08Speaker 03

  So I didn't know that.

• 37:09Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. No, he had, he did it. Well, it's like, were they or weren't they on a break type of thing?

• 37:14Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 37:14Brooke Averick?

  He, they like had a fight and he thought they were broken up, slept with someone. And then she was like, wait, we were, what? Like, we were dating. And he's like, oh, I didn't, I didn't know that.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:26Brooke Averick?

  But even if you were dating, like just break up a few days later.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 37:31Brooke Averick?

  All right.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  Actually, I did see the clip now that you mentioned that. Right. I did see the clip of her saying to Con, or Conrad being like, what the fuck? You know that?

• 37:41Brooke Averick?

  Conrad said, I didn't so much as look at another girl when we were together. Or, you know what? Honestly, since then. He didn't say that, but it's implied.

• 37:49Speaker 03

  Yeah. He loves the girl. You know what? He loves the girl.

• 37:53Brooke Averick?

  And Jeremiah is getting like really like bratty and whiny. I guess he's always been, but like with, uh, he's, he was like freaking out about the specific type of cacao bean in their wedding cake. Have you heard that?

• 38:05Speaker 03

  No.

• 38:06Brooke Averick?

  Oh yeah, that's a sound that's being used about him like freaking out about the cacao.

• 38:10Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 38:11Brooke Averick?

  He's just a baby.

• 38:12Speaker 03

  Right.

• 38:13Brooke Averick?

  A little baby, but I love it, Kat.

• 38:15Speaker 03

  Okay, well, I'm gonna go on the record as Team Conrad. I'm not watching the show, but I just don't wanna get canceled. Team Conrad.

• 38:21Brooke Averick?

  No, that's fine. I do.

• 38:22Speaker 03

  Okay, great.

• 38:23Brooke Averick?

  I'm trying to think of if I have anything to tell you from my weekend.

• 38:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'd love to hear about your weekend. Sorry, I forgot to ask Brooke.

• 38:31Brooke Averick?

  No, I'm, I don't think anything happened. I finished my book.

• 38:36Speaker 03

  Okay, what book?

• 38:37Brooke Averick?

  The one I'm writing.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  Oh, wait.

• 38:41Brooke Averick?

  Sorry, that wasn't.

• 38:42Speaker 03

  Wait, Brooke, is this your first episode since you finished finished?

• 38:46Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 38:47Speaker 03

  Oh, we need to talk about that.

• 38:49Brooke Averick?

  There's nothing even to say.

• 38:50Speaker 03

  No, this is the most, Brooke is the most annoying person to write a book. And I mean that positive connotation because anytime she sends something about the book, she'll send a text, whatever, and she'll be like, I'm so sorry, like last thing about the book. I'm so sorry. I'm being so annoying.

• 39:06Brooke Averick?

  I am Michael Horrible.

• 39:06Speaker 03

  Anytime I bring up the book, she's like, it's so annoying. We don't need to talk about it anymore. Like you wrote a book and published it. It's like the only thing I wanna talk about.

• 39:15Brooke Averick?

  I am being so fucking annoying.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  Brooke, it's the only thing I want to talk about.

• 39:19Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 39:19Speaker 03

  I'm being dead serious. I talked about it at home so much with my family, like.

• 39:25Brooke Averick?

  Very, very sweet.

• 39:26Speaker 03

  I just can't believe you're dying. Congratulations, baby.

• 39:28Brooke Averick?

  Thanks. It's not full. Well, it has to go to copy edits, which I didn't know what any of this meant. But like, that means it's basically off for like getting like checked for like small little like grammatical and sentence structure thing.

• 39:39Speaker 03

  It's out of your hands. But so to me.

• 39:42Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, well, then I have to review that. So I'll see her once more.

• 39:46Speaker 03

  You will see her.

• 39:46Brooke Averick?

  I'll see her once more.

• 39:47Speaker 03

  But that's grammatical.

• 39:48Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, kind of just like little things like.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  How was your final read through on the beach?

• 39:54Brooke Averick?

  Good question. I was being the most dramatic. I had to sit by myself on the beach to do it.

• 39:59Speaker 03

  I get that. Like, I can't even read a book. Like, I can't focus on a book if I'm close to my friends.

• 40:04Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 40:04Speaker 03

  You can, like, but I can't without talking. So it's not dramatic.

• 40:08Brooke Averick?

  I will say, this was, that was my first time, my first and last time ever reading the full thing altogether, because I worked on it in chunks. So it was always like, I'm just doing the first and then the second and then the third chunk. And so this was, I hate the word chunk, sorry.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  That's fine.

• 40:25Brooke Averick?

  But I, like, at first, I was like, oh, my God, it's like watching yourself on camera, which I really struggle with.

• 40:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:33Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, which I really struggle with. So for the first 120 pages, which were the ones that I've spent the most time with, I was like, I, this is tough. And then once I got past that, I was like, holy shit, like.

• 40:46Speaker 03

  This is good. Well, I think, like, we were trying, we talked about this a lot, but like, she wrote the first half a while ago at this point. So now she's obviously reading it with a more critical eye. But I have read the first half, pre edits as well. So probably a less, like, perfected version, and I loved it.

• 41:05Brooke Averick?

  A lot has changed, Kat.

• 41:06Speaker 03

  I know, but I loved every second of that. So I'm just like, picked, like, you, I know you're being drama and like self critical because it's your writing. Yeah.

• 41:16Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, totally. It's, it's me being horrible at marketing.

• 41:19Speaker 03

  Can I say that your, your book team told you to, told you to step back?

• 41:26Brooke Averick?

  I was, yeah, I was spending too much time with the first 120 pages.

• 41:30Speaker 03

  They told her to take a step back. She kept changing things that were perfect.

• 41:34Brooke Averick?

  You are gonna go ahead and make it worse. It got to that point.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  Which is a thing, I guess. And I'm not an author, but I've heard from Brooke and other people that that is a thing. Like, then you'll change it so much. But obviously, your first version was better.

• 41:45Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, no, I had to take a step away from the first 120. And, you know, they're my, they're really my, I guess I care the most about them because I spent the most time with them. They're my child.

• 41:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:54Brooke Averick?

  And so.

• 41:55Speaker 03

  And it's the first thing that you wrote.

• 41:57Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. And that's what sold it and everything like that. So, but, you know, it's, it's all good and it will be great. And there will be so much information that I can share so soon. But not yet, but so soon and I do have a cover.

• 42:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was about to, I didn't know what you want to say.

• 42:15Brooke Averick?

  No, I don't, I haven't said.

• 42:16Speaker 03

  The cover is done. I personally love the cover. I know you love it too.

• 42:21Brooke Averick?

  It's like so gorgeous.

• 42:23Speaker 03

  It's crazy because like you've had so many different cover ideas come in over the months. And this was the one I was always like, I really like this. And then at the very end, she added a detail where I was like, like I always loved it. And then you added one detail and I was like, it's done.

• 42:40Brooke Averick?

  It completely cracked the mainframe.

• 42:42Speaker 03

  It did. It really did.

• 42:43Brooke Averick?

  A mainframe cracker of a detail.

• 42:45Speaker 03

  And I like, for sure, like if you zoom in, you can see my hair. My hairs are sticking up completely. Because I just like, your book is going to be in Barnes and Noble.

• 42:56Brooke Averick?

  It's gonna be in Barnes and shit like that.

• 42:58Speaker 03

  And also like, even if I didn't.

• 42:59Brooke Averick?

  I wonder if it'll be in the airport. That's something I like, keep having like-

• 43:02Speaker 03

  We can make it happen.

• 43:02Brooke Averick?

  Random little thoughts like that.

• 43:04Speaker 03

  What are those stores called again? In the airport?

• 43:07Brooke Averick?

  Hudson News or whatever?

• 43:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I want it.

• 43:08Brooke Averick?

  I think they only do bestsellers there.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  Alright, well, I'm sure it'll be there then. Um, yeah, I want it in the Hudson News, pretty bad.

• 43:15Brooke Averick?

  I want it there. I want it there.

• 43:17Speaker 03

  Um, yeah, it's also like, I feel like the cover is if someone didn't know you and like, want to buy this book already, like I would pick it up based on cover.

• 43:28Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, that was, that's the goal.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, that makes sense. From a selling perspective.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  It's really cute and I'm so excited. I haven't read the end, so I'm so excited to read the end.

• 43:38Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, it went, so it's not like technically like all cleaned up yet because you know, it has to go through the copy edits. But early rounds have like gone out to like very early readers and I know that like an author that I, I love very dearly. Like it is in her hands right now. And like, I know that she's reading it. And so obviously I'm very nauseous.

• 43:57Speaker 03

  Is it who I think it is? Your girl?

• 44:00Brooke Averick?

  It's my, it's my girl.

• 44:01Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 44:02Brooke Averick?

  So that's making me sick and just shit like that. And so, anyway. Anywho, so what's, that's really it, I think, about that.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  I kept like, every time I was like, oh, the book is done. I was like, this day, the book is done. We need to sell a great book. And then it kept getting pushed and I was away.

• 44:21Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  Frickin' away.

• 44:22Brooke Averick?

  It really, it just flew, flew right under that finishing. It was really like kind of anticlimactic. I was just like, alright.

• 44:29Speaker 03

  How do you feel now?

• 44:30Brooke Averick?

  Extremely depressed. Thank you.

• 44:32Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 44:33Brooke Averick?

  Very, very sick and depressed.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  But you were working like 24/7. Does it feel nice at all to take

• 44:40Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 44:40Speaker 03

  Rest?

• 44:41Brooke Averick?

  No, it doesn't. I miss it so badly. I miss

• 44:45Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 44:45Brooke Averick?

  I miss my best friend.

• 44:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:47Brooke Averick?

  Phoebe Briere. Obviously, I'll see her again.

• 44:50Speaker 03

  You will see her.

• 44:51Brooke Averick?

  She's forever with me.

• 44:52Speaker 03

  Probably like a good bit in the next couple of years. Um, seeing the first Phoebe edit.

• 44:59Brooke Averick?

  Oh, that was

• 45:00Speaker 03

  I don't know if it was the first, the first that I've seen was insane to whoever that young woman or gentleman that made that.

• 45:07Brooke Averick?

  Young woman on TikTok, she made like a vibe edit of like what she thinks the book will be like.

• 45:13Speaker 03

  Yup.

• 45:14Brooke Averick?

  And she

• 45:15Speaker 03

  She kinda killed it.

• 45:16Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, she, she did a great job. I do wonder, like, I, when I read it, I do not picture myself as Phoebe at all.

• 45:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:25Brooke Averick?

  And there were pictures of like me in the edit and I wonder like

• 45:29Speaker 03

  Posted it.

• 45:29Brooke Averick?

  if people will picture that. Cause I do not.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  I, I didn't really when I read it. Just be, just based on you being like, this is a separate human being. Like, I feel like maybe because people know you and love you, they might, like it's your book, just automatically pictures the main character, but I don't know. I wonder.

• 45:50Brooke Averick?

  I wouldn't be mad about it.

• 45:51Speaker 03

  No.

• 45:53Brooke Averick?

  At all. Y'all can completely do that. I would, I would, um, be completely freaking honored.

• 45:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:59Brooke Averick?

  But I just wonder what will be in people's heads. Something, something to think about.

• 46:04Speaker 03

  I, I feel like there are certain, there are certain parts that sound like you, obviously due to you writing it, that make it hard to separate. Like just cause it's your humor. So I think that, you know, there are definitely times where I'm like, this is Brooklyn.

• 46:18Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 46:19Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 46:20Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, that'll happen, I guess.

• 46:22Speaker 03

  But I like it.

• 46:23Brooke Averick?

  I can't wait for like people to fan cast it.

• 46:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, fan casting, like for me, when someone gets cast and hey, if it's you, then it's you. Like if you have a movie, once someone gets cast, then I can like switch my visual. That's how I am. But for now, it's like either, like I can't visualize characters. So it's like a blob in my head.

• 46:45Brooke Averick?

  Same.

• 46:45Speaker 03

  Or you.

• 46:47Brooke Averick?

  I've been doing blobs and then there's one side character who is just Tristan.

• 46:53Speaker 03

  It's all blobs.

• 46:55Brooke Averick?

  It's all blobs and Trish.

• 46:58Brooke Averick?

  Completely gorgeous, full portrait of Trish.

• 47:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I'm kind of had that experience as well.

• 47:03Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

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• 48:04Speaker 03

  Oh my God, I cannot wait. I'm buying a Kindle just so she'll send me the electronic copy.

• 48:09Brooke Averick?

  Who gives a damn about all this, seriously?

• 48:12Speaker 03

  Literally, who cares? I mean, it's not much.

• 48:16Brooke Averick?

  It's not much, but it's on the work.

• 48:17Speaker 03

  But it's something, yeah, it's on the work.

• 48:18Brooke Averick?

  I do want you to get a Kindle separately.

• 48:21Speaker 03

  Well, I'll get a Kindle to get your book delivered to me as soon as possible.

• 48:27Speaker 03

  And then maybe I'll use it for other things.

• 48:30Brooke Averick?

  Like reading other books too?

• 48:31Speaker 03

  Maybe, other things.

• 48:33Brooke Averick?

  I'd really like that. What else do you think we should talk about?

• 48:37Speaker 03

  I don't know, do you want to keep talking about Phoebe?

• 48:39Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 48:40Speaker 03

  I do.

• 48:40Brooke Averick?

  Like, what about it?

• 48:42Speaker 03

  I don't know, did you feel like, here, I just want to ask you book related questions. Did you feel like the end, wrapped up, post edits was like exactly what you wanted it to be and what you wanted it to feel like?

• 48:56Brooke Averick?

  That's a great question, Kat, and I feel like I can't answer.

• 49:01Speaker 03

  Okay. Why do you feel like you can't answer? I don't want you to give anything away. How do you feel about it?

• 49:07Brooke Averick?

  I feel great. I feel great about how it all ended.

• 49:11Speaker 03

  Like not about what the ending was, about like, how you felt about, you know, making it what you wanted to be. Does that make sense?

• 49:20Brooke Averick?

  I feel really good.

• 49:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, cuz I just feel like if I was writing a book, that would be a really, really difficult part to end it. And like, you know, that's can make or break the whole thing. That's a lot of pressure and you feel great about it. So that's perfect.

• 49:33Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  And your editors felt great about it as well, right?

• 49:39Speaker 03

  And we love the, we love the book girls.

• 49:41Brooke Averick?

  I do wish like, I do have another book to write.

• 49:46Brooke Averick?

  And I wish I like, I don't know if it will be like a sequel or not, or just a completely separate beast. I do wish I knew if like people liked Phoebe. You know, cuz then it's like, if y'all want more, I'll give you more. I'd love to.

• 50:00Speaker 03

  People will love Phoebe.

• 50:00Brooke Averick?

  But also I could also do something sep- completely separate too, if y'all aren't into it.

• 50:06Speaker 03

  Oh my god, no, everyone's gonna fall in love with Phoebe for sure. But yeah, it is like, I don't know how people have the foresight to like,

• 50:15Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 50:16Speaker 03

  To be like, oh, this, this is all gonna happen, but then I want all of this to happen in the second book.

• 50:21Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 50:21Speaker 03

  I guess that probably comes with practice and stuff, but I also feel like you could do like a, I mean, I think people will love Phoebe and you can continue Phoebe's journey, or you could like go off of like, Yeah, I just like the universe things. Like characters are somewhat.

• 50:35Brooke Averick?

  I'm sure it'll be something like that. I really do think that. Yeah. It's been amazing. And at the end of the day, it was over a year of my life, truly.

• 50:48Speaker 03

  Every day.

• 50:48Brooke Averick?

  Doing that every day. So now.

• 50:50Speaker 03

  And even just like your thoughts every day as well.

• 50:52Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. So when I woke up yesterday and didn't have to go to my computer,

• 50:57Speaker 03

  And talk to Phoebe.

• 50:57Brooke Averick?

  Spent a pretty decent amount of the day in, in bed.

• 51:01Speaker 03

  That's fine. You deserve that.

• 51:04Brooke Averick?

  And but in like a derogatory way.

• 51:06Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 51:06Brooke Averick?

  In a way where John and Rob are like, are you okay?

• 51:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:10Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  But I think, you know, give yourself a couple of days to be sad about it. And then it's like, you have so much to look forward to.

• 51:19Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 51:19Speaker 03

  And then your writing journey is not even like, obviously your writing career is not over, but it's like, you also have a full other, you just have so much to look forward to.

• 51:26Brooke Averick?

  This is the kind of thing where it's like, you know how parents are like, I won't be able to love my second child as much as my first.

• 51:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:32Brooke Averick?

  Even though they always do end up doing that. That's how I'm feeling about another book. I should, like, I'm not selling my, like, I'm like, not selling my self well.

• 51:42Speaker 03

  That's not true.

• 51:44Brooke Averick?

  Second book's gonna be horrible.

• 51:45Speaker 03

  No, but you're saying that you love the first book so much that like, you know, how could the second one live up? But that's the thing. You also thought your first one was gonna be horrible.

• 51:56Brooke Averick?

  Did I?

• 51:57Speaker 03

  No, but you're, I'm just like, you were like, you're even reading it through and being like, it's horrible. Like, you're always saying that, but I'm like, no, the first one is great. And, you know, you didn't, you hadn't written a book before.

• 52:09Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 52:10Speaker 03

  So the second one will be great.

• 52:11Brooke Averick?

  It will be great.

• 52:12Speaker 03

  It really will.

• 52:13Brooke Averick?

  I do think I, I feel, I feel good. I felt good about my read through and shit like that and.

• 52:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I should feel good.

• 52:20Brooke Averick?

  And I can't wait for you to read it, Kat.

• 52:22Speaker 03

  I look forward to it. I'm gonna be sobbing my eyes out like a damn baby.

• 52:25Brooke Averick?

  Ain't a whole bunch of nothing over here. But soon, I'm gonna be able to say a whole lot of something and I won't be able to shut up. So take this time, appreciate it for what it is, cuz it's, there's not, it's not going on for much longer.

• 52:38Speaker 03

  I think people wanna hear about it. So I don't think people are mad about us chatting about it.

• 52:43Brooke Averick?

  Sweet.

• 52:44Speaker 03

  I can't believe it's off. You sent her off.

• 52:47Brooke Averick?

  So the race is.

• 52:48Speaker 03

  She's gone. I miss her.

• 52:49Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Yeah, I do too.

• 52:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, but she's probably out there with everyone, so.

• 52:55Brooke Averick?

  I'll be out there with everyone too.

• 52:56Speaker 03

  Oh, everyone's gonna love Phoebe.

• 52:57Brooke Averick?

  Also thinking, obviously, so I'm gonna have to delete good reads in a pretty huge way.

• 53:03Speaker 03

  I can understand that.

• 53:06Brooke Averick?

  I can't read negative comments about myself. And so I think reading negative comments about my book will actually be even worse. Cause this is like my kid.

• 53:13Speaker 03

  Right.

• 53:14Brooke Averick?

  My labor of love that like I gave everything. Two, in the least traumatic way possible. And I know most authors don't look at Goodreads, but that's also really hard because I love Goodreads like as a consumer.

• 53:27Speaker 03

  Right.

• 53:29Brooke Averick?

  But I do have to head off.

• 53:30Speaker 03

  Block a book on Goodreads?

• 53:33Brooke Averick?

  That's a good question. No.

• 53:34Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 53:35Brooke Averick?

  They shouldn't make that a thing though, for authors to be able to block your own book.

• 53:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. Cause I'd love for you to still be able to use it.

• 53:41Brooke Averick?

  Use the platform.

• 53:41Speaker 03

  Use the platform. But I don't think, first of all, I think they're going to be overwhelmingly positive. I really do. But then of course there's like, you know, you know, people have opinions and shit like that and they're mean. So I would never want you to see that.

• 53:56Brooke Averick?

  Well, this is what I was getting at is that I would rather, I think, I was thinking about this as I was falling asleep last night. Have a one star review and then a three star review.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  Interesting. Like at least someone felt passionate about it.

• 54:11Brooke Averick?

  So strongly that you like, that there was substance there to hate. Like three, it's just like, meh. I'm just like, that is, that is not working for me less than hatred.

• 54:20Speaker 03

  That's interesting.

• 54:22Brooke Averick?

  Cause the opposite of love.

• 54:23Speaker 03

  I get that.

• 54:24Brooke Averick?

  Is hate.

• 54:25Speaker 03

  Right.

• 54:25Brooke Averick?

  No, the opposite of, what is it? The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference or some shit like that?

• 54:30Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 54:31Brooke Averick?

  That's what I'm talking about. Like, I'm not doing any three star reviews right now.

• 54:34Speaker 03

  Okay, we're taking fives or ones, but mostly fives because the ones will bring down the average. So we'll just do the fives for now.

• 54:41Brooke Averick?

  You're right, Kat.

• 54:42Speaker 03

  Yeah. I think average wise, you'd take the three. But you know, for your personal self.

• 54:49Brooke Averick?

  Y'all can do like, if like rate it three and then in specify in the review, hated one star. But just for average purposes. Now I should not talk about, I should not in this space, say anything about negative reviews.

• 55:04Speaker 03

  I don't think you should either. I really don't think that's.

• 55:05Brooke Averick?

  It's gonna get, it's gonna be a big, it's gonna do great.

• 55:08Speaker 03

  It's gonna do so great. Anyone that has came into contact with Phoebe, by the way, has loved Phoebe. So I'm just saying.

• 55:16Brooke Averick?

  Well, they've all been my best friends and family. I have to like, this is not, not selling myself.

• 55:20Speaker 03

  And like, whatever. Who gives a damn?

• 55:22Brooke Averick?

  Who gives a?

• 55:24Speaker 03

  I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna download Goodreads to give it a five. I don't have it, but I'll have it. And that can start us out.

• 55:30Brooke Averick?

  No, I'm being serious. Y'all will love it. Thank you.

• 55:33Speaker 03

  Yeah. Glad you said that.

• 55:35Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, that's, that's the key. It's like, it's like very hard for me to not, um, I feel like guilty not speaking negatively about myself.

• 55:44Speaker 03

  That's, that's what I mean by like, she's annoying because she's overly humble about it.

• 55:50Brooke Averick?

  It's not even that. It's like, I feel like saying something like, saying like, my book is good. I do, which I do feel.

• 55:59Speaker 03

  We don't talk like that enough.

• 56:01Brooke Averick?

  Feels really bad. Like, like a nasty thing to say.

• 56:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. I think that's, that's the nature of how we operate as humans, our whole friend group. Like, I think we very much celebrate each other, but when it comes to like ourselves, we're, at least you and I, you and I cannot be like.

• 56:21Brooke Averick?

  Can't do it.

• 56:22Speaker 03

  Like, this was really good. Like, I feel really good. Like, we'll just be like.

• 56:27Brooke Averick?

  We'll be like, eh, whatever.

• 56:28Speaker 03

  I mean, it is what it is. And I'll kill myself.

• 56:31Brooke Averick?

  Right. So it's, it's something for me to work on.

• 56:34Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 56:34Brooke Averick?

  Especially, uh, cause I do want to, want people to buy it. I shouldn't say anything negative, especially because I, I feel overwhelmingly positive about it.

• 56:43Speaker 03

  I know. That's just, that's the crazy thing is you do feel really good and then you'll say out loud.

• 56:49Brooke Averick?

  It's literally, I can't help, like, it's very interesting.

• 56:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. And then it's crazy because you got to do like press and genuinely talk next.

• 56:56Brooke Averick?

  Like be on TV and be like, yeah, this is shit.

• 57:01Brooke Averick?

  Even though I don't feel that way, that's just what has to come out.

• 57:04Speaker 03

  It has, it's what has to happen. Like, literally Brooke's gonna be on like a talk show and be like, I know you.

• 57:10Brooke Averick?

  I know y'all will hate it.

• 57:14Speaker 03

  I wouldn't buy it if I were you. So just leave it on the shelf.

• 57:17Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. So, um, yeah. So that will be something to work on. Y'all saw me work through that a little bit today. It's been amazing.

• 57:24Speaker 03

  Hey, we came through on the other side. So.

• 57:27Brooke Averick?

  Everything like that. And thank you for having that conversation with me, Kat, about the book.

• 57:33Speaker 03

  You're welcome. I will talk about your book as much or as little as you want, but preferably as much.

• 57:39Brooke Averick?

  Let's talk about Harry Styles for a second because here's what I'll say about Harry Styles. Absence makes the heart grow fonder until it doesn't. Like, there's such a thing as being too mysterious. Like, he has been too far gone for so long that, like, I don't even know who you are anymore. You know?

• 57:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:57Brooke Averick?

  Like, I don't really, like, I'm, I'm finding myself not as invested as I usually am, because it's like, who, you're, you've become a stranger to me again. Which is probably what he wants, and that's amazing, that he's, he's gotten that from most people again.

• 58:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:12Brooke Averick?

  Um, but yeah.

• 58:13Speaker 03

  I agree. Like, I haven't seen the guy in forever. Like, I haven't seen him before, I haven't seen him, you know?

• 58:20Brooke Averick?

  He's done it right, because I think this is what he wants.

• 58:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, he wants to be able to walk around with Eddie Kravitz and not have these photos taken, but we're gonna take him anyway, baby.

• 58:29Brooke Averick?

  He looks kind of, like, obviously, he's the most gorgeous guy that I've ever seen, but he looks kind of like a normal guy. Does that make sense?

• 58:37Speaker 03

  Uh, I like his outfit a lot. Like, I think he looks cute.

• 58:40Brooke Averick?

  Well, no, I'm, like, he's to die for, but like, you, like, back in the day, like, One Direction, it was like, that is an, like, a

• 58:50Speaker 03

  Maybe, maybe we're just growing up. Does that make sense? Like, he was once a god.

• 58:57Brooke Averick?

  God among men.

• 58:58Speaker 03

  He is still a god, but like, maybe he's also just a guy?

• 59:04Speaker 03

  That's so

• 59:04Brooke Averick?

  You know, I really feel like Robert Pattinson is like, will always be a god.

• 59:08Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 59:09Brooke Averick?

  Does that make sense?

• 59:10Speaker 03

  He, it kind of does.

• 59:11Brooke Averick?

  He's just godly.

• 59:12Speaker 03

  He is godly. It's something about, like, and maybe this is just from Twilight, like, his skin, but then also the characters, like Batman, like, when I thought about, like, I love Suki Waterhouse, y'all know that, like, when I have seen her, I think about him being in the crowd, or I think about him being on the side backstage, and it, like, sends a chill down me.

• 59:34Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, because I, I've been around, like, a pretty good amount of celebrities since I've moved to Los Angeles, California, and he, most of the time, I've been like, oh, wow, this is, there's, like, drop dead, but like, it is just a person at the end of the day.

• 59:49Speaker 03

  Right, yeah.

• 59:49Brooke Averick?

  When I was with Rob, I did not feel that way. I felt, this is God. This is God, capital G. Like, this is not normal, like, the, what he's emitting.

• 1:00:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:00Brooke Averick?

  Is, is

• 1:00:01Speaker 03

  The energy.

• 1:00:02Brooke Averick?

  Greek godlike.

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's something

• 1:00:05Brooke Averick?

  In energy.

• 1:00:06Speaker 03

  Non-human positive connotation from Rob.

• 1:00:09Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:10Speaker 03

  I will say.

• 1:00:10Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:11Speaker 03

  Like his child is like some, is like half god.

• 1:00:13Brooke Averick?

  Exactly. But Suk to me, like, I haven't been around her, but like she is goddess.

• 1:00:19Speaker 03

  She is goddess. Like, if you've ever seen Suk perform in a similar Olivia Dean fashion, the fan is fricking blowing. She's got a fur jacket on, like, there's greenery everywhere. Like, she is doing goddess.

• 1:00:32Brooke Averick?

  Speaking of fan blowing. Connor and I had an opportunity recently where we had to film something.

• 1:00:41Speaker 03

  I loved this opportunity.

• 1:00:43Brooke Averick?

  And there was one scene in what we had to film where there is a fan blasting on us for a close-up shot. Okay?

• 1:00:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:53Brooke Averick?

  And obviously, our reaction to the fan blowing on us was having this, like, extreme, like, like, knockback, like, whoa, like, like, whoa, we were just knocked down. And the director was like, okay, love that. But this time, like, hey, it's just a fan.

• 1:01:13Brooke Averick?

  You know, like, you don't need to do, like, you're not being, like, hit by a truck. And we were like, okay, I think we hear what you're saying.

• 1:01:20Speaker 03

  We just saw your hair blown back.

• 1:01:22Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, we're like, okay.

• 1:01:23Speaker 03

  Y'all, please stand up.

• 1:01:24Brooke Averick?

  Got it. We think we hear you. Uh, action fan blows. I mean, we were getting knocked back further and further than we were before. Like, we couldn't grasp that, like, we weren't getting knocked down to the ground by this fan. Like, no matter, have you seen that SNL skit? With Fred Armisen and Zac Efron? That's like, I am your mother. And every time.

• 1:01:45Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:01:45Brooke Averick?

  It's like, action, she gets worse and worse and worse. It was that. Cause like, every single time he called action and was like, just normal fan, hair's blown back a bit. We were tumbling.

• 1:01:58Brooke Averick?

  Humbling backward.

• 1:02:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:00Brooke Averick?

  So I'm excited to see how that scene of this project.

• 1:02:04Speaker 03

  Did you all ever get it together for that scene?

• 1:02:06Brooke Averick?

  It's hard to say as that was

• 1:02:09Speaker 03

  Difficult.

• 1:02:09Brooke Averick?

  The end of the day.

• 1:02:10Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:02:10Brooke Averick?

  And it had been a long one.

• 1:02:12Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:02:13Brooke Averick?

  So there's a few things.

• 1:02:15Speaker 03

  Beautiful in your outfit.

• 1:02:16Brooke Averick?

  That's very sweet, Kat.

• 1:02:17Speaker 03

  And your hair and makeup.

• 1:02:18Brooke Averick?

  That's very sweet.

• 1:02:19Speaker 03

  Did you have a glam team?

• 1:02:19Brooke Averick?

  I had a glam team.

• 1:02:20Speaker 03

  They did a great job.

• 1:02:21Brooke Averick?

  For this opportunity.

• 1:02:22Speaker 03

  Beautiful.

• 1:02:22Brooke Averick?

  Thanks, Kat. But I'm excited for everyone to see what this is. And there was also, I had a line that was literally as simple as like, hey, what's up, man? Couldn't get it. Could not get it. I mean, that must have been 120 takes of, hey, what's up, man? Like, I couldn't get, I couldn't find, I couldn't find the character.

• 1:02:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, I think, was the character just supposed to be you?

• 1:02:46Brooke Averick?

  Yes.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:02:47Brooke Averick?

  I couldn't, it kept coming out like, hey, man, what's up?

• 1:02:52Speaker 03

  Brooke's playing herself, goes into someone completely different.

• 1:02:56Brooke Averick?

  And the director was like, hey, let's just do like casual.

• 1:02:58Speaker 03

  Hey, just be yourself.

• 1:02:59Brooke Averick?

  Oh, okay, casual. Hello, my brother. Like, I could not, I could not do it. Yeah. And if there was, I think until this shoot, there was always like 1% of me that still maybe had that like childhood dream of like, being an actress.

• 1:03:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, I still have my 1%.

• 1:03:17Brooke Averick?

  I feel like everyone has that 1%. I don't, it's gone.

• 1:03:20Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:03:20Brooke Averick?

  After that, I think it's down to zero.

• 1:03:23Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:03:23Brooke Averick?

  So it was a humbling and sobering experience.

• 1:03:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think I need to have an experience like that to take me down to zero because I know I'd be horrible at it. Like, I have to film brand deals and I, I do the same thing, like where I, I can't do the line.

• 1:03:37Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 1:03:37Speaker 03

  And I'm like, I'm sitting here all the time in the world, no one's like paying me to be, like, I mean, the brand is paying me, but I'm not like on a set, no pressure, can't do it, so.

• 1:03:46Brooke Averick?

  It really, I should post like a reel of like my outtakes doing brand deals. And I'm sure all of ours, it's like, it's completely.

• 1:03:56Speaker 03

  I'm fine if it's like natural in any way, but if it's, if I have a line, like of something like, God forbid, like scientific or something, I'm toast.

• 1:04:06Brooke Averick?

  Oh, for me, I'm always like, hey, guys. Hey guys. Like, it's literally like eighty of those.

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's fun.

• 1:04:15Brooke Averick?

  It's amazing. Well, Kat, I so appreciate you being here today. I know you did not want to be here.

• 1:04:22Speaker 03

  I enjoyed my time. It was fine.

• 1:04:25Brooke Averick?

  Sorry for talking about my look.

• 1:04:29Brooke Averick?

  It is amazing, though.

• 1:04:30Speaker 03

  It is so good, though.

• 1:04:32Brooke Averick?

  Thank you.

• 1:04:32Speaker 03

  Not a problem.

• 1:04:33Brooke Averick?

  It's amazing.

• 1:04:34Speaker 03

  I look forward to having it in my hands, as well as on my new Kindle.

• 1:04:38Brooke Averick?

  Yes, Kat.

• 1:04:39Speaker 03

  Yay, Brooke. This has been fun. Thanks for having me.

• 1:04:41Brooke Averick?

  Coming. Love you so much. See you in the bonus. Thank you.

• 1:04:44Speaker 03

  See you in the bonus. Nice.

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