Behind the Scenes Minis: Tracy’s Frustration

Tracy shares issues she has with overly reductive internet videos that misrepresent the story of nixtamalization. She and Holly also discuss the various ways they like to eat corn. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 2:09Holly Frey?

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• 2:20Tracy V. Wilson?

  Hello and happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson.

• 2:23Holly Frey?

  And I'm Holly Frey.

• 2:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  We talked about pallagra for two episodes.

• 2:27Holly Frey?

  We sure did.

• 2:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  I said in the episodes, I was not expecting or planning for two. Did not know about all the stuff that was involved in Italy. Of course, as we said, that there is, is and has been pallagra in parts of the world besides the Southern US and Italy, but it became a particular problem in those places. And still today, places where especially people are living mostly on corn, a lot of times corn that has been, through well-meaning ways, donated from the international community to places where there is famine, or unrest, or war, or whatever.

• 3:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  We are going to talk about Tracy's frustration in this episode, and the frustration is overly reductive internet videos.

• 3:17Holly Frey?

  Okay.

• 3:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Because I watched several videos about Nishthalization. And several of them had this sort of narrative of this is how the indigenous peoples of the Americas, really all across the Americas, some nuances to how different nations and peoples did things, but like some kind of treatment of the corn with alkaline water or ash or something that was making the niacin more bioavailable. And then it would be like, but the colonizers thought that was stupid, and they didn't want to do it, and that's why there was pallagra. And that's not really accurate.

• 4:02Holly Frey?

  Right.

• 4:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  Because foods like hominy and masa, masa harina, all the things that are made with masa, like, those became foods that the colonists were also eating. Hominy in particular, the poorest people were eating. And that continued to be the case for centuries after colonization started. Like we said in the episode, it is like, there seems to be a correlation between milling technologies, particularly the big de-germinator that was patented in like 1902. There seems to be a correlation between that and polagorates because now there was a way to give corn a really long shelf life that didn't involve ne-stimulizing it that was more labor intensive.

• 4:49Tracy V. Wilson?

  So like, the problem was not that colonizers were being picky about indigenous foodways. The problem was capitalism exploiting people and trying to give the poorest people the cheapest, lowest quality food possible as their staple. But there, I watched so many videos that had that as the narrative that I started to second guess myself. I was like, I really thought that people were for sure eating hominy and poor people for sure eating hominy. I can't speak to Mesoamerica and South America, but like all over North America at least, like what's going on with this?

• 5:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I started looking through old recipe books to be like, am I just, am I, am I misunderstanding something fundamental? And so now I'm going to read to you from a 1924 USDA Farmer's Bulletin.

• 5:47Holly Frey?

  Okay.

• 5:48Tracy V. Wilson?

  Prepared in the Bureau of Home Economics, a bureau that we have a whole episode on. This is on, from a Farmer's Bulletin called Corn and Its Uses for Food. And this is a section called Lie, Harmony, or Hull Corn. Quote, "This is easily made at home from any variety of white or yellow dent or flint corn. The kinds with fairly large kernels are easier to hull than those with small kernels, and only clean, sound ears should be used. The hulls and germs are loosened by steeping the corn in a lye solution, rubbing off the hulls, then washing out the lye, and finally boiling the corn."

• 6:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  Sometimes the kernels are boiled with the lye, but cold soaking is also effacious and gives what many consider a more delicate flavor. The Division of Cereal Investigations of the Bureau of Plant Industry recommends the following method: Dissolve five ounces of lye, sodium hydroxide or caustic soda, in six quarts of cold water. Stir in five quarts of corn and let it stand 15 hours. Wash thoroughly to remove the lye and the hulls. Rubbing the hominy in a cloth bag helps to take off the hulls. When the washing is finished, the hull and black tip should be off and the kernel should look clean. The slight discoloration which the lye causes may be removed by soaking the hominy overnight

• 7:16Tracy V. Wilson?

  in water to which a little salt has been added. Cover with water, to which five tablespoons of salt have been added, and boil in a covered kettle for three to four hours or until thoroughly cooked, making sure that the hominy remains covered with water. Changing the water once or twice during the cooking will lessen the taste of the lye. Five quarts of corn will make from 15 to 20 quarts of lye-hominy. This was just one part of this bulletin that had numerous recipes for things that you can make with hominy. And the Bureau of Home Economics did not advocate for foods that they thought were weird or, quote, "ethnic."

• 8:00Tracy V. Wilson?

  We talked about that in our episode on them. So after really just sort of like questioning, I was like, but hominy, though? No, really, like, people really were eating a lot of hominy. And it really was not people's personal food preferences that led to cornmeal being the only thing that was sold in the company store. Right. So, anyway, I got really, I got a bee in my bonnet about that. Like, I get the wanting to make that the narrative. I totally understand that. And there are a lot of... Indigenous foods that are totally overlooked, or foods that are indigenous developments that people who are not indigenous have no idea that's where it came from.

• 8:43Holly Frey?

  Right.

• 8:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  All that's valid, but I was like, this is not, people were still eating Hominy, though. They're still eating Hominy today. I could go to the store and I can buy Hominy off the shelf.

• 8:55Holly Frey?

  You know what I wondered through this whole thing?

• 8:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  What?

• 8:58Holly Frey?

  How are people not passing out all the time? Like, I'm a low blood sugar baby, and if I don't have a high proglow, I'm gonna crash really hard.

• 9:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 9:09Holly Frey?

  I can't even imagine subsisting exclusively off of...

• 9:14Tracy V. Wilson?

  Cornmeal.

• 9:15Holly Frey?

  Cornmeal, or even just all, like, you know, relatively simple carbohydrates.

• 9:20Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 9:21Holly Frey?

  I would not be in a good place.

• 9:22Tracy V. Wilson?

  A little fat back in there.

• 9:24Holly Frey?

  That might help a little, but for a minute, but eventually I'm gonna stop functioning.

• 9:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 9:30Holly Frey?

  Like, without pellagra involved at all.

• 9:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right, right.

• 9:35Holly Frey?

  I'm like, no, the mental illness is because my brain is not getting any of the things it needs to keep going.

• 9:43Holly Frey?

  Yeah, yeah, that's, like, the scariest to me is, like, entire diets with no protein in them. I'm like, what is, no!

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• 10:28Tracy V. Wilson?

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• 10:56Tracy V. Wilson?

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• 13:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  Something else that I definitely didn't understand until researching this episode is that I was like, "Okay, something about corn was making people develop pellagra." I'm imagining that everybody's just like chomping down on ears of corn on the cob. Like, I didn't really have a sense that, no, the corn was being dried. It was being milled into cornmeal or grits or whatever. As I understand it historically, prior to colonization, it was a lot more common to, in most of the Americas, for the corn to be nish-timalized so that it would have this longer shelf life and not so much to roast up an ear of corn and eat it.

• 13:52Holly Frey?

  Right, but you could pop it.

• 13:54Tracy V. Wilson?

  Popping it, too. We do have that whole episode on popcorn. I do love popcorn. Before we started recording, Holly and I started talking about all the types of corn that we love to eat.

• 14:06Holly Frey?

  Yes, and don't.

• 14:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 14:09Holly Frey?

  And don't.

• 14:10Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 14:11Holly Frey?

  I'm not like the, as we said then, I'm not the biggest fan of just like corn. Although I'm coming around, something is happening to my taste buds where like now I'm like, a roasted corn I'm okay with, but for the longest time, I just did not want whole corn.

• 14:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 14:28Holly Frey?

  I do not want creamed corn by any stretch of the imagination. I can't imagine a food that grosses me out much more than that.

• 14:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 14:37Holly Frey?

  But I love popcorn and I love things made with ground corn with cornmeal.

• 14:41Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, sure.

• 14:42Holly Frey?

  Oh, the flavor. Oh goodness, a good matzo.

• 14:45Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, I love corn on the cob. I love corn grits, which again, most of the like, the very mainstream North America food companies that are selling like instant grits, it might have the word hominy on the label, but that's probably not niestimalized corn being used. Some of the more specialty producers will specifically say on, on the labeling that it is corn that has been treated in some way with like an alkaline processing. But yeah, love corn on the cob, love grits.

• 15:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  Love like catfish breaded in cornmeal. So good. There are a lot of like Mexican, Mesoamerican sort of street food dishes that involve corn and various cheese like elotes and esquites. I think that's how those are pronounced. I did not look it up before coming in here. I'm sorry. But I love both of those. All and various things that have corn as an ingredient in there. Very into it. And again, if you're eating a ton of corn that hasn't been niestimalized, as long as you're also eating a variety of other foods.

• 15:59Holly Frey?

  Probably fine.

• 16:00Tracy V. Wilson?

  Probably fine.

• 16:01Holly Frey?

  Yeah. I was just gonna say, you know, living in the South, there are strong opinions about grits. But there's only one grit for me and it is the Flying Biscuit Creamy Dreamy Grit.

• 16:14Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, so good.

• 16:15Holly Frey?

  Holy Moses.

• 16:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 16:18Holly Frey?

  If you are in the South and you are near a Flying Biscuit.

• 16:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 16:22Holly Frey?

  And you've never had them.

• 16:23Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 16:24Holly Frey?

  Get thee to Flying Biscuit or the Creamy Dreamy Grits. They're so good.

• 16:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 16:30Holly Frey?

  Oh, man.

• 16:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  I also like shrimp and grits.

• 16:33Holly Frey?

  Oh, my favorite.

• 16:34Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. Moving to Massachusetts.

• 16:39Tracy V. Wilson?

  Meant less availability of grits. I feel like that's a slightly shifted now. Um, but I remember one time, this was shortly after I had moved to Massachusetts. We stopped for some reason, like we were just out and about doing stuff. And for some reason, we stopped at a very large, but very standard chain grocery store in Massachusetts in Brookline. And they had a whole wall of different varieties of grits in with the oatmeal and all that. And I was, my mind was absolutely blown because I had not seen grits in a store in a super long time.

• 17:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  And even now, it's like the place that I usually grocery shop has at most one kind of instant grit. And that's your option.

• 17:33Holly Frey?

  Tracy, if only you knew someone who still lived in the South and could ship you grits.

• 17:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  Could ship me grits as much as I want.

• 17:39Holly Frey?

  Why don't you just send me your list? And we'll get it handled.

• 17:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  During the early COVID time, uh, when many of us were mostly at home, uh, we were getting things in bulk through mail order from a place that is sadly no longer in business. Um, and one time, not one time, like they started having like these giant boxes of grits. And I was like, give me the grits all the time. Grits, comfort food in these days of uncertainty. Um, having returned to days of uncertainty.

• 18:16Holly Frey?

  Right?

• 18:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  What I've actually been doing recently is cream of wheat, which is not.

• 18:21Holly Frey?

  It's as good as you remember.

• 18:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 18:24Holly Frey?

  That was the ad campaign when we were kids.

• 18:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  For cream of wheat?

• 18:28Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 18:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. I don't remember this.

• 18:31Holly Frey?

  I'm telling you, I know all the commercials.

• 18:36Holly Frey?

  I was a child raised by television and I love advertising jingles to this day.

• 18:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  There is a place in, I think this is in Somerville. I don't live there. I don't live in Somerville anymore. So I don't remember if this was in Somerville or if it was like over the line in Cambridge called The Neighborhood that had a cream of wheat. And we would get it sometimes when a bunch of friends, we were gonna go somewhere and we would stop and get some to go and we would eat it walking down the sidewalk. And I've started trying to mock up their cream of wheat in my own house in breakfast recently.

• 19:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  It's got some similarities to grits, but it's not quite the same thing.

• 19:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  Anyway.

• 19:20Holly Frey?

  Delicious yummy foods. Now I think I have to make shrimp and grits for lunch. Thanks Tracy.

• 19:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  I'm very excited for you.

• 19:27Holly Frey?

  Shrimp and grits is one of my all time, easily in the top 10 favorite dishes.

• 19:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yes.

• 19:33Holly Frey?

  And I love, I love trying everywhere's version.

• 19:38Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 19:40Holly Frey?

  It's the best.

• 19:41Tracy V. Wilson?

  We have grits in the house right now. We don't have any shrimp. So sadly, no shrimp and grits for me.

• 19:48Tracy V. Wilson?

  So yeah.

• 19:49Holly Frey?

  I like to do grits with a little scallion in the pan first.

• 19:54Tracy V. Wilson?

  Fun.

• 19:54Holly Frey?

  Let that get brown and even a little crispy.

• 19:58Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 19:58Holly Frey?

  Then you do your, your grit situation.

• 20:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 20:02Holly Frey?

  And then there's just scallion spread throughout them. Making deliciousness.

• 20:07Tracy V. Wilson?

  That sounds really good.

• 20:08Holly Frey?

  It is.

• 20:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  Really good.

• 20:15Holly Frey?

  I love it. I love it.

• 20:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  I do find more shrimp and grits on restaurant menus.

• 20:22Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 20:23Tracy V. Wilson?

  Here.

• 20:25Holly Frey?

  Always my, I get so excited when we're going somewhere that has shrimp and grits.

• 20:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 20:29Holly Frey?

  I remember mentioning in an unrelated conversation, which was actually about Star Wars, when I was at a convention in Salt Lake.

• 20:39Holly Frey?

  That I, any restaurant I go to that has shrimp and grits on the menu, especially if I'm somewhere I don't go, I almost order. Always that's the thing I order. And I was surprised at how many people in the audience of that panel were like. I'm sorry, shrimp and what are you eating? Like, they just thought this sounded like the most gruesome dish one could put before a human, and I'm like, come to the shrimp and grit side, it's really quite delicious.

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• 21:44Speaker 07

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• 24:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  While there was, you know, a southern pride around these foods and the roles that things like fatback and salt pork plating cooking and all of that, there was also stigma about some of the foods. And hominids association with poor people made like other people who could afford a richer variety of food like not really want to deal with that. Yeah. Makes total sense that the Department of Home Economics was like, yes, this is how you can do this yourself at home. Because part of their whole deal was trying to give people who were facing hardship.

• 25:07Tracy V. Wilson?

  Tools to have like more nutritious foods at home. I had its own baggage that we talked about in those episodes because like we said, they did not get behind foods that they thought were weird or un-American in some way.

• 25:22Holly Frey?

  Right.

• 25:23Tracy V. Wilson?

  For the most part.

• 25:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  But yeah.

• 25:26Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I hate that defensiveness about, you know, regional identity and pride probably costs some people their lives.

• 25:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. Yeah, well, and then it became a situation of the people who had really criticized that it could be dietarily related and it became increasingly evident that yes, this was related to diet, continuing to double down because then it sort of seemed like they were going to come off as having been backward and stubborn.

• 25:59Holly Frey?

  So just be more so, that'll fix it.

• 26:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, we've seen it everywhere in our lives, the people who were wrong and can't admit that they were wrong about something.

• 26:11Holly Frey?

  Right.

• 26:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  So anyway.

• 26:14Holly Frey?

  Eat a variety of foods if you are able.

• 26:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, yeah. And you know, if you are able, donate to your local food bank.

• 26:24Holly Frey?

  Yes.

• 26:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  We, there is a lot of need right now for food at the food banks.

• 26:30Holly Frey?

  There is, this is where I will talk about briefly, the made up Star Wars holiday that I do.

• 26:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 26:37Holly Frey?

  It's just that every year on Mardi Gras, we have started going instead to Walt Disney World and we go to Galaxy's Edge and we celebrate what we call Hut Tongs Day.

• 26:49Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 26:49Holly Frey?

  Essentially Mardi Gras, but it is in Star Wars. And part of that, that I always tell friends, because they're like, can we run around the parks with you? I'm like, yes, absolutely. We've gotten quite a nice herd together. But the thing that we always do is like, I'm not going to police you, but please as part of this, donate to an organization that feeds people. Because the whole point of like, having a very yummy time running around and playing should be that like. May we all have plenty is my, my governing thing. So that's just our goofy way that we do it among our like friend group, which, you know, expands delightfully each year.

• 27:30Holly Frey?

  It makes it a fun thing out of reminding everyone to take care of each other by donating to food organizations. But everybody, celebrate Hot Tongue's Day with me this year in whatever way you want to. If you're not into Star Wars, you can just donate to a food org on Mardi Gras or anytime.

• 27:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  I have a food bank. And also, we have a local food rescue organization that goes and gets the stuff that's going to be thrown out from the restaurants and grocery stores and they redistribute that. And then also Meals on Wheels.

• 28:02Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 28:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  Who's federal funding, I think, was frozen.

• 28:07Holly Frey?

  I think so, yes.

• 28:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. And I, I don't know what the situation is with that at this point, and I'm sure it will be different by the time this episode comes out because everything-

• 28:15Holly Frey?

  From the time we're speaking about it today till when you hear us speaking about it, who knows what will have happened?

• 28:22Tracy V. Wilson?

  So we've alluded to the chaos of the times that we're living in. I really hope that everyone is able to find some moments of joy and peace.

• 28:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  Because there's moments of joy and peace can make the other stuff that we've got to deal with more deal with-able.

• 28:43Holly Frey?

  Yes.

• 28:45Tracy V. Wilson?

  And we will be back with a Saturday classic tomorrow and something brand new on Monday.

• 28:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  Stuff You Missed in History Class is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  That sound? That's the National Squash League. Pro teams, the world's best players, and rallies so fast you'll forget to breathe. Season four is in full swing, and every match streams free on YouTube. Big hits, bigger rivalries, and a front row seat from wherever you are. Watch every match for free on YouTube. Search National Squash League and hit subscribe or follow live updates on Instagram at NSL.Sport.

• 29:42Holly Frey?

  A rare disease diagnosis can change your life, but it doesn't have to define your future. In season seven of Untold Stories: Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, host Martine Hackett continues the conversation with people living with MG, CIDP, and the broader rare disease community, exploring what comes after diagnosis through stories of hope, progress, and connection. Produced by Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenx. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

• 30:13Tracy V. Wilson?

  You ever show up late to the game and your friends already saved your seat, your drink, even a plate? That's looking out. That's having your back. And that's exactly what AT&T does with the AT&T Guarantee. They know staying connected matters, so they actually guarantee a network that comes through when it counts. AT&T has connectivity you can depend on, or they'll proactively make it right, just like that friend who takes care of things before you even ask. AT&T: Connecting changes everything. Terms and conditions apply. Visit att.com/guarantee for details.

• 30:49Speaker 07

  Live Right, publishers of John U. Bacon's New York Times bestseller, The Gales of November, a chronicle of the S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald's 1975 shipwreck. Never has it been told better than by Mr. Bacon in this colorful book, writes John J. Miller of The Wall Street Journal, while author Hampton Sides proclaims that it's destined to be a classic. The Gales of November, now in paperback.

• 31:16Speaker 00

  This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.