Another Heist at the Louvre w/ Yvette Nicole Brown

Laci welcomes her mentor and great friend, Yvette Nicole Brown (Community, Squeezed Podcast), to look through her binoculars and examine last month’s heist at the Louvre, which took place on October 19th at approximately 9:30 a.m. Please note that, at the time of this recording, only two suspects had been apprehended. Plus, they discuss the other robberies occurring in France around this time and the infamous incident when Kim Kardashian was robbed of her jewels. Stay schemin’! Listen to “Squeezed with Yvette Nicole Brown” wherever you get your podcasts. CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom-signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAG Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Yvette Nicole Brown: @yvettenicolebrown Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://abcnews.go.com/International/louvre-director-summoned-french-lawmakers-amid-ongoing-investigation/story?id=126713238 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg7nrlkg0zxo https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/20/style/france-louvre-heist-worrying-escalation-intl-hnk https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/maine-tourists-louvre-jewelry-heist-paris/ https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/21/world/video/louvre-heist-social-media-vrtc https://www.popsci.com/technology/how-louvre-heist-happened/ https://abcnews.go.com/International/french-police-arrest-2-louvre-jewel-heist-suspects/story?id=126873453

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• 2:24Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. And if y'all know me, what, I'm very, yes, I'm very excited. I'm very, ready to have a good crack. Yeah, I'm still in Ireland. Crack doesn't mean what it means in the U.S. over here, y'all. They laughing. That's, that's crack for them, not, you know, The Rock, that ruins the lives. But today, okay. Y'all know that we, this is, this is a special, this is a deaconess in the congregation. This is not her first time being on the podcast. She brings me so much joy on and off screen. You may have seen her on hit shows like Community, The Odd Couple, Drake and Josh, The Mayor, and honestly, so, so much more.

• 3:09Laci Mosley?

  I have to throw in there, I love the celebrity appearance on The Upshaws. Loved that role too. I mean, she's booked, she's busy constantly. And perhaps you've heard her wonderful voice on acting projects like Pound Puppies, Elena of Avalor, and Shape Island. She is an Emmy nominated actrice. She is a caregiver and is educating us one episode at a time with her podcast, Squeezed on Lemonada. That's Squeezed on Lemonada. Congregation, please get up. Get up out of your seats. Stand up in your vehicles. And welcome back, my fave, Avette Nicole Brown. Hello!

• 3:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, nobody gives an intro like you. That was lovely. Thank you. Thank you for that.

• 3:50Laci Mosley?

  It's all true. You've been such an inspiration to me, but also such a lovely mentor. So it's always great when I can scam you into spending an hour with me.

• 3:57Speaker 05

  Hey, my pleasure. My pleasure, baby. How about this? I didn't even know this was on, because they know if it's you, it's a yes. So they didn't even come and said, do you want to do it? They knew it would be a yes. But they didn't tell me I was doing it. So I was like, I opened up the calendar. I was like, oh, glam today? Okay, let me refine my lashes.

• 4:15Laci Mosley?

  So here we are.

• 4:16Speaker 05

  Here we are.

• 4:17Laci Mosley?

  I love a just show up for this thing. I be getting those too. I just had one of those. I had a producer session for Barbershop, but I didn't audition for it. So they were just like, hey, I just saw it in my calendar and I was like, hey, can I have a script?

• 4:28Speaker 05

  Right. Or anything about the character? Could I know who the character is?

• 4:32Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 4:33Speaker 05

  It just would help me to have some sides.

• 4:35Laci Mosley?

  Just a little bit to know what is going on.

• 4:39Laci Mosley?

  They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, we'll get that to you, but this is time work.

• 4:43Laci Mosley?

  And I hate it because they know it does because like when you're, you know, when you're on location, it's like, well, what plans do you have other than your job that you've been kidnapped for?

• 4:51Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 4:52Laci Mosley?

  And we know when you get off.

• 4:54Speaker 05

  Don't they know? Don't they know?

• 4:55Laci Mosley?

  Yes, because here we don't work past 6:00 PM and then overtime is if we work at 7:00, but I'm in at 5:00 AM every day. So it's...

• 5:03Speaker 05

  So you out of there by 6:00 every day? It's still a 12-hour day. You ain't, you ain't getting away from that.

• 5:06Laci Mosley?

  Nah, but I mean, a 12, you know, from the States, like an 18 used to be my norm. So I'm like, I'll take a little 12, honey.

• 5:12Speaker 05

  No, I did. Community, don't talk to me about long hours.

• 5:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I know, you know.

• 5:16Speaker 05

  How dare you? How dare you act as if you can beat what we did? How dare you? Friday day every week? What?

• 5:22Laci Mosley?

  Ooh, I hate a Friday. I hate a Friday.

• 5:25Speaker 05

  And we'd be deep in that Friday. We wasn't getting off until like noon on Saturday. Like, I'm like, y'all are crazy.

• 5:31Laci Mosley?

  I did a horror film once and I was like, never again unless they paying me a ton of money because baby going home from work at noon is crazy. How you doing today?

• 5:41Speaker 05

  I am good. I'm excited to see what, what fraud and scam and shenanigans in Ballyhoo have been happening.

• 5:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Ballyhoo. I like that.

• 5:48Speaker 05

  Catch me up. Catch me up, girl.

• 5:50Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and before I catch you up, I need you to catch me up. So what's your relationship with scams right now? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Anything? The zeitgeist? Have you recently been scammed? Anybody you know? It could be literally anything.

• 6:02Speaker 05

  Well, I found out I've been scammed today or someone's trying to use my name to scam. I'm glad we're having this conversation. Someone put my picture... Uh, my name and some other random stuff along with Gmail and they're sending people messages as me. And I know it's gonna end up with them asking for some money. So if you get an email from me randomly, it is not for me. I don't ask my fans for money. I don't ask my friends for money. So if anybody's reaching out going, I got this great opportunity for you, it is not me. So that scam I found out about yesterday and I'm, I'm gonna go on and take the screenshots. What I got and IP address I didn't found and I'm gonna go and start me a little police report.

• 6:38Laci Mosley?

  I know, that's right.

• 6:40Speaker 05

  I believe in suing. I believe. My good name, all I got. I don't, I don't ask people for money. I never ask people for money. So if somebody's asking for money under my name, it ain't me.

• 6:48Laci Mosley?

  I feel like you're also not the greatest person to choose for that scam. Cause you are constantly booked. Like I wouldn't believe it was you asking me for money anyway. I'd be like, uh, I'd turn around and be like, actually can I hold 20?

• 6:58Speaker 05

  Can I hold five? Can I get a five? But it also too is everybody's always asking like they got some new money making scheme. Like I don't even ask people in regards to money. I don't offer opportunities. If you just give me $20, I got, I don't do that. So if it's a money, if it has anything to do with money, it's not for me. And also too, let me say this, it is, it is tight out here. So I can understand why somebody could think somebody needs. But I'm telling you, I will get a job. I'll go to McDonald's and be on fries before I ask anybody for money. So just know that.

• 7:25Laci Mosley?

  Same. Same. One time I was like in between jobs, it was only for a few weeks, but I just, I don't know. I guess I really am a workaholic, but I saw a sign, a chick, they said, we're hiring. And I was like, hmm. And I was like, wait.

• 7:36Speaker 05

  You do, you do have that in you because I think we talked one day, we were talking one day and I was, you were talking about something. I said, girl, don't nobody worry about you and work. If don't nobody work, it's you. You, you got my gene. You, we will work. We will work. So.

• 7:49Laci Mosley?

  I will be employed. Okay? I am not too proud to clock in or clock out.

• 7:53Speaker 05

  I sure ain't.

• 7:54Laci Mosley?

  Done that before, we'll do it again.

• 7:55Speaker 05

  We'll do it again. We'll do it again.

• 7:57Laci Mosley?

  God willing, we don't have to go back there, but you know.

• 8:00Speaker 05

  But, but will if we have to. Yeah.

• 8:01Laci Mosley?

  Will if we have to. Ain't no, ain't no shame in a hard day's work at all. And you just reminded me that like there's another phishing scam that's happening. And it just happened to me recently. I posted it on scam goddess and on my page. But I wanted to give you guys like an update into it. Somehow these people got my phone number, um, which is not listed and it's not the one that you can Google. Like please, like there was a lot of, I moved since like my, I got doxed and everything. So like none of that stuff is the same, but they somehow got my real number. And they texted me this long menacing text about how they had my nudes.

• 8:38Laci Mosley?

  And I don't have nudes. So this is how I was already like, there's no nude photo.

• 8:43Speaker 05

  That you have, right.

• 8:45Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. So wait, okay, I found it. I'm gonna read it to you. So they say, hey, Miss Lacy. Now, first of all.

• 8:55Speaker 05

  First of all, we already out. You already lost me.

• 8:58Laci Mosley?

  Hey, Miss Goral. Like, be serious.

• 9:01Speaker 05

  Hey, Sister Queen.

• 9:03Laci Mosley?

  Right. If you gonna try to rob me, be serious. I heard a rap song recently that was so funny. It was like, if you out here getting money, put a hand in the air or something like that. And it was like, if you out here getting money, put your other hand up. Now, give it to me. I was like, what?

• 9:19Speaker 05

  What? How do I know?

• 9:21Laci Mosley?

  I wish I had the lyrics correct, because it's actually very funny, because it rhymed. But it was so funny to me. I was like, not me being robbed by this song. But this says, hey, Miss Goral, Miss Lacy Pooh. I texted you on WhatsApp and you never reply. I'm reading it grammatically, as it says. Let me just go straight to the point. And why they got the annoyed emoji with the eye roll?

• 9:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, don't do that.

• 9:44Laci Mosley?

  Like, you annoyed with me? You trying to rob me?

• 9:46Speaker 05

  You trying to scam me? Stop it.

• 9:49Laci Mosley?

  This is how we know the workplace, like, everybody is exhausted out here. Even the criminals are like, oh, hello? God, I'm trying to rob you.

• 9:59Laci Mosley?

  How you giving me an attitude? You trying to rob me?

• 10:04Laci Mosley?

  So it says, let's get straight to the point. Eye roll. A nude picture of yours was leaked while you booked me as a massage and LES partner. I don't know what that is. And I won't hesitate to post them all if you refuse to comply with me. Three exclamation points. Now, you might have had something, you know I love a good massage. Okay, I'm getting one tomorrow. I travel the world and I get a massage everywhere I go. That's my tourism. I don't need to see the mountain. I saw that on the internet.

• 10:32Speaker 05

  Let me see the table with some of that coconut oil. That's what I want to see.

• 10:35Laci Mosley?

  I want to see my head through the table.

• 10:40Laci Mosley?

  So it says, "You're a celebrity and I have nothing to lose loose out of this." Not lose, loose.

• 10:47Speaker 05

  Get on the grammar and the spelling.

• 10:49Laci Mosley?

  And then we got a space and there's some ellipses and then another space. Cause you know, that's how ellipses work. And then it says, "You're the one with the image and good reputation, not me. You have couple hours to reply to my message."

• 11:03Speaker 05

  Not a couple of, got a couple hours.

• 11:06Laci Mosley?

  You have couple hours.

• 11:07Speaker 05

  Couple hours.

• 11:08Laci Mosley?

  Okay. We couldn't have run this through a spell checker or not. I know you had all the, I know the red lines were dancing under these things. You just ignored it.

• 11:16Speaker 05

  I hated typos. Gone.

• 11:18Laci Mosley?

  It's all typos and that's a great way to spot a scam, y'all. Like a professional company is not gonna send you an email from like a regular web account with riddled with typos.

• 11:28Speaker 05

  Right.

• 11:29Laci Mosley?

  So it says, "You have couple hours to reply to my message or I just posted on every social media. I repeat, you have the image." Space, exclamation point, exclamation point. "I have nothing to lose." Ooh, lose was beating his ass. BTW. Then they sent me a screenshot of my Instagram page. Then it says, "I will start to, I will start from DM your followers and sharing those nudes to them." Space, three exclamation points.

• 11:58Speaker 05

  How you gonna do that though, if you're not in my account? How you DMing anybody as me, if you're not in the account?

• 12:03Laci Mosley?

  Then they got a video of me saying, "Uh, this is you, not gonna lie. You have a sexy body." This is a video that I posted on my Instagram story years ago, but like still. What? And so then it says, "I don't respond," right? And I have my red ellipses on it. So I was just like, it doesn't matter if you know it's me or not. And so I said, "Yo ma'am, now I get it. You don't care, right?" And literally nothing after that. And I was like, that was on October 18.

• 12:32Speaker 05

  How long was, oh. Well, it should be up by now.

• 12:35Laci Mosley?

  I don't have anything to put up.

• 12:37Speaker 05

  I know, but listen, with AI, we all got something to put up.

• 12:40Laci Mosley?

  Right, that's what I'm saying. If y'all see a new to view, count the fingers.

• 12:44Speaker 05

  All I'm saying though is make sure she's delicious and buttery. I ain't got no news, but if you gonna make one, make it, get Halle Berry or somebody. Put my head on her.

• 12:53Laci Mosley?

  I know, that's right. Give me some more work.

• 12:55Speaker 05

  Give me a little work. Give me, give me, give me Meg Thee Stallion. Put my head on Meg Thee Stallion. I will happily say, that is my news.

• 13:02Laci Mosley?

  I'd be like, I am so ashamed.

• 13:04Speaker 05

  I'm so ashamed that my buttocks is for the world is looking at my boobs and they Meg's boobs.

• 13:10Laci Mosley?

  I'm like reposting the photo like, I know y'all saw this and I'm so ashamed.

• 13:14Speaker 05

  So ashamed.

• 13:17Laci Mosley?

  Please like and subscribe for my pain.

• 13:23Laci Mosley?

  Literally. But these kind of phishing scams, they're trying everything these days. Anything and everything. And no matter if you are working in entertainment or some type of public figure, it doesn't matter because now we all have social media to the point where all of our information is out there. Everybody want to be the main character. Everybody want to go viral. So everybody putting their business out every single day. So this can be done to any person. It doesn't matter what your station is. Cause we all know the nurses love to dance next to their patients coding.

• 13:51Speaker 05

  And they're losing a job. It's what you call just the quickest way to lose your job.

• 13:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh my gosh. Before we move into the historic hoodwink, did you hear about that substitute teacher in Mississippi who got fired after her first day because she was videotaping the kids?

• 14:05Speaker 05

  No.

• 14:06Laci Mosley?

  Why? She was doing a day in the life.

• 14:10Speaker 05

  With the faces of the babies.

• 14:11Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And she like filming herself walking in and out the classroom. And I saw one TikTok that made me laugh so hard. That was like when people film a day in the life and they had an extra phone. So it's like you see them setting up the camera when they get out of the car to like get back in the car and get out of the car and like all the things you have to do.

• 14:28Speaker 05

  Yo, did you see the lady who promptly lost her job who did a day in the life going into the airport?

• 14:33Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 14:35Speaker 05

  With the codes, putting codes in to open up the change drawers. It was literally a how to.

• 14:42Laci Mosley?

  Rob. How to rob.

• 14:45Speaker 05

  The airport. Airport. Where you come out, where you get your money, the route you take, the door you go into, the security guard, your name badge, your security badge, it was everything. And she crying, I had lost my girl, please. I wanted to fire you. I didn't even hire you and I wanted to fire you.

• 15:02Laci Mosley?

  Right. We gotta get you up out of here. You are a national security risk.

• 15:05Speaker 05

  Security risk. A mess. Just a mess.

• 15:08Laci Mosley?

  A day in the life at the CIA. So first I start with, like, what are you?

• 15:13Speaker 05

  What are you doing? What are you doing? Day in the life at the bank. When I get out the thousands, this is the code. What are you doing?

• 15:20Laci Mosley?

  This is how much money we keep on hand.

• 15:22Speaker 05

  No.

• 15:23Laci Mosley?

  This is how much money we give to the, and we do these pickups at 603 Sharp every day.

• 15:28Speaker 05

  Every day. That's when the Brink's truck comes. His name is Tony. Don't do it.

• 15:33Laci Mosley?

  Get ready with me. And Tony loves to drive on Route 6. And he always uses the restroom at a 7-Eleven along the way.

• 15:40Speaker 05

  And he leaves the, he leaves the truck open and running. Don't do it. Don't do it.

• 15:45Laci Mosley?

  Open and running is crazy.

• 15:49Laci Mosley?

  Like, she was a how to robbery. And speaking of robbery.

• 15:53Speaker 05

  Ooh, nice segue.

• 15:55Laci Mosley?

  Is the theme today. That was your segue. You brought that up. Thank you, Evan. That is the theme of the show today because we are getting into the long anticipated. Y'all have really hit me up about this. And you knew I was gonna do it because I was literally, I was reading this news article and I think a little drool fell out of my mouth. Like, I was like, are you kidding? So we are talking about the most recent caper that took place at the famous Louvre Museum in Paris.

• 16:25Speaker 05

  What is that? Louvre?

• 16:27Laci Mosley?

  The Louvre. The Louvre. The Louvre. So, four people with a ladder and a dream.

• 16:34Speaker 05

  That's right. Ladder and a dream. That's all you need.

• 16:36Laci Mosley?

  And power tools.

• 16:37Speaker 05

  That's all you need.

• 16:38Laci Mosley?

  Broke into the world's most visited museum in broad daylight. Before escaping on scooters with French crown jewels worth more than a hundred million dollars.

• 16:51Speaker 05

  Mm.

• 16:52Laci Mosley?

  So, first of all.

• 16:55Laci Mosley?

  Shout out to the broad daylight of it all.

• 16:57Speaker 05

  That's, that's bold. That's, that's ballsy.

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• 18:33Laci Mosley?

  The Louvre has been having some financial struggles as of late, and they don't really have the amount of security that they need. Only 75% of the Louvre actually has security cameras. And it made me think, when I saw this heist, I was like, why did nobody think to rob them sooner? And I think it really is because of all the Ocean's movies. Like, I don't know if the Louvre was like, let's support these movies so people really think they got to cat dance around lasers and lights and, you know, come in from the ceiling. Let's make it look so hard to rob a museum. And then maybe...

• 19:07Speaker 05

  People would just believe it.

• 19:08Laci Mosley?

  Cause I thought it was hard.

• 19:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, listen, when I saw them pouring soup on Mona Lisa, I thought they don't have enough security.

• 19:15Laci Mosley?

  Cause how did they get so close to this girl?

• 19:17Speaker 05

  Did you get up there with girl and threw the tomato soup on her? What did you do? Now they protected her with a little plexiglass, but still, I don't think you should get that close.

• 19:25Laci Mosley?

  Lisa was sitting there like, what the hell? She's like, what? And Lisa, Lisa wasn't even that girl back in the day. The whole reason that she became that girl was because she was stolen herself. By the person who installed the protect, like the framing for her originally, he stole her. And they made a replica.

• 19:43Speaker 05

  Cause he knew, he knew how to get up in there.

• 19:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, cause he put her up in there, so he knew how to get her out.

• 19:47Speaker 05

  And she about the size of a postage stamp. You really could put her under your arm and going out of there. She's a tiny little lady.

• 19:52Laci Mosley?

  So underwhelming.

• 19:53Speaker 05

  Tiny lady. I was shocked the first time I saw her. I was like, that's how big she is? She's tiny, little tiny thing.

• 19:59Laci Mosley?

  And people are waiting in line in droves, they're like crowding around it. I remember, I have a picture in front of it and I was very unimpressed. I was like.

• 20:07Speaker 05

  I just thought, cause she looks larger than life when you see her. Do you know, as we talk about this scamming of the fraud of the taking of the jewels, did you hear that they left one behind? And you know why?

• 20:18Laci Mosley?

  They dropped a crown.

• 20:19Speaker 05

  I don't know if they dropped it or they left it, cause you know, they say that one's cursed. That what they say?

• 20:24Laci Mosley?

  The Regent Diamond is cursed and they didn't take that one.

• 20:28Speaker 05

  That's the one they didn't take. That's what I'm talking about. They left it right there. They said, they treated that like the Annabelle doll. They say, not on our watch. We not, ain't gonna be in my bag when I'll kill over and die.

• 20:38Laci Mosley?

  And I know that's right because there's so many, it's just like a lot of weird deaths around the Regent Diamond. Like obviously, you know, Queen Antonette, she got her head.

• 20:45Speaker 05

  Chipped off?

• 20:47Laci Mosley?

  Napoleon had it in his sword, he got exiled. They took that sword back. The Indian, enslaved Indian man who found it, put it in his leg. Like he cut a hole in his leg and put it in his leg and smuggled it on a boat and tried to bribe the captain of this boat, this Englishman, for his freedom. He was like, if you like give me my freedom, I'll give you half the cut on this diamond. And of course, the Englishman was like, yeah, for sure, for sure. And then just killed him and kept the diamond. Yeah, you know.

• 21:14Speaker 05

  That's cursed, that's cursed right there. That's the curse right there.

• 21:16Laci Mosley?

  Yep, that was the curse. That it was stolen from this Indian man who found it in his own country's mines. While he was being enslaved.

• 21:24Speaker 05

  Don't do it.

• 21:24Laci Mosley?

  So, don't do it. That's what y'all did.

• 21:27Speaker 05

  Bad juju on that.

• 21:28Laci Mosley?

  Somebody, somebody on TikTok was like, I love the heists are back. And I really want to make some requests. Can we hit the British Museum next? And I was like, I'm here for it.

• 21:37Speaker 05

  They got a lot of African stuff up in there. They got a lot of stuff they shouldn't have taken.

• 21:39Laci Mosley?

  Look at what we stole.

• 21:41Speaker 05

  That's horrible.

• 21:41Laci Mosley?

  I love that they think that colonizers think that like the presentation of it all takes away from how awful, you know, what it is to acquire it was, you know what I mean?

• 21:51Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 21:51Laci Mosley?

  Like how they stole it from people, how they murdered people, how the sun never sets on the British Empire means we literally broke into everybody's crib and just claimed it and killed all these people.

• 21:59Speaker 05

  Whatever we wanted to take, whatever we wanted to take.

• 22:01Laci Mosley?

  Robbers, y'all get that cherry picker back together and y'all head on over to the UK because we need a favor. We need a favor. Go get our shit back. I'm tired of the museums being like, look at what we stole. We put a light on it. We put it in a little box. So it's ours now.

• 22:17Speaker 05

  Oh, Lord.

• 22:18Laci Mosley?

  So, the heist. Four thieves dressed in yellow and orange safety vests, disguised as construction workers, arrived at the Louvre Museum in Paris at 9:30 a.m. on October 19th, shortly after the museum opened to visitors. Now, I do want to say you can get anything accomplished with a construction vest, a clipboard, or even just carrying a ladder.

• 22:42Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 22:43Laci Mosley?

  I'm not, who gonna question you? Who gonna check you?

• 22:44Speaker 05

  Nobody. I ain't got time for that. I'm here to see the lady. I don't have time to see where you're going or what you're doing.

• 22:50Laci Mosley?

  I've literally done it myself. Like when we were shooting Scam Goddess for Hulu, we had permits to shoot on the sidewalk. We did not have permits to shoot on the specific street. But we needed to get a shot of me getting out of the car. And I was so worried about my crew, like getting hit by cars. I was about to get hit by a car, child. A story for another day. But so me and one of my producers was like, let's go to Walmart tonight and get some vests. And so we went and we got reflective vests and we gave them to the crew and then they would just put their hand up and stop traffic.

• 23:16Speaker 05

  And people would stop. And people would stop. See what I mean? I'm gonna get one for my street. Help me with my parking over here. I'm gonna get a vest.

• 23:24Laci Mosley?

  I got a traffic cone in the back of my car.

• 23:26Speaker 05

  So what do you do? What do you do with the cone? Scams. You know what? Fraud. What do you do with the cone? In your trunk. What do you do?

• 23:35Laci Mosley?

  When I was parking on the lot at Paramount, shoot, and I, Carly, um, if we went out for lunch, because we would have an hour lunch, we went out to lunch, like, you know, and drove, um, because it was in Larchmont, basically, so if we drove, you know, to Larchmont Village, um, my parking spot would always be taken, and I would always have a good spot because I would get there really early in the morning. So eventually, I just took one of the traffic cones that I saw holding somebody else's spot, and I put it in my trunk. So then, when I would back out, I would take it out of my trunk, and I would put it in the spot that I was in, and then I would come back and nobody was on my spot.

• 24:03Speaker 05

  Did you, did you just admit to theft and fraud? You just admitted to theft and fraud. The fraud was enough. But you didn't just told, I thought you bought the cone, you didn't stole the cone.

• 24:17Laci Mosley?

  No, I'm just borrowing it because Paramount gonna give me another job, and then I'm gonna bring it back. I'm just manifesting for when I'm back on that lot, and then I'm gonna give it back.

• 24:25Speaker 05

  Send your letters of shock and awe.

• 24:29Laci Mosley?

  No, it's a borrowing.

• 24:30Speaker 05

  To Miss Lacey, to Miss Lacey Queen.

• 24:33Laci Mosley?

  No, it's just Paramount gonna book me again, and then I'm gonna bring it back because we're besties. I was just like, sis, can I borrow this? And then Paramount was like, go off. The tower was like, take it. I was like, yeah. It works, it works.

• 24:46Speaker 05

  Oh, God.

• 24:47Laci Mosley?

  So, so they arrived at the museum at 9:30 in the morning. So these robbers didn't even do this early. They, they, they slept in, they probably had a nice little croissant.

• 24:56Speaker 05

  Little breakfast, some of the, yeah, one of the crepes, they got a crepe as they walked over.

• 25:00Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm, definitely got a crepe, you know.

• 25:01Speaker 05

  Got a little cheese.

• 25:02Laci Mosley?

  And, um, they were, they were fed, they were ready, they were energized. So the Louvre is the largest museum in the world. It gets more than 8 million visitors a year, and has about 35,000 works of art on display at any given time, including some of the most iconic works in Western canon. Even if you don't know art, you know the Mona Lisa, like we were saying before, and the Venus de Milo, and the winged victory. Like, even if you don't know the names of these, you've seen these iconic pieces of art. Um, and we talked about how Mona Lisa got her fame because Mona was just one of the girls on the wall, and then she got stolen, and then, you know, she became that girl.

• 25:39Speaker 05

  That girl.

• 25:40Laci Mosley?

  So the burglars used a vehicle-mounted mechanical lift to get into the gallery of Apollo via a balcony close to the scene, River, the scene of the crime.

• 25:55Laci Mosley?

  So they left behind their ladder leading up to the first floor window. Now, this ladder kind of looks to me like a cherry picker. It's like a long ladder that extended up to the second floor balcony. And then they rode in this little box all the way up the ladder to the balcony. They got to the balcony and then they used their, um, their electronic tools. Yeah, so like basically almost like a cartoon, cut a hole in the glass and climb through. Wow, and all this is happening in daylight, so no one's even watching from this side. So no one's protecting the perimeter of the, of the museum at all, basically. Well, so remember, they're a little understaffed, right? And there's no entrance right here.

• 26:39Laci Mosley?

  So they're not thinking that somebody is gonna come over with a cherry picker, basically, and just pull up to the joint, which it just feels, the picture I'm looking at looks very sparse. And I guess this is why they chose this area, because it doesn't seem like there's a lot of foot traffic. And I'm just thinking to pull up some, a piece of machinery that large without a permit, or, well, they had the vests, they did have the vests. The vest was the permit. Yeah, you're right, let me stop, you're right, they had the vests, they had the vests. Because otherwise, why would you have that vest on? And the cones, they got the cones, it went to Paramount, got three cones, so they're ready to go, they're ready to go. Not I'm in it, okay, I did provide a few cones. I didn't know the cones before, I should be selling cones that I steal. I didn't know that they were gonna use them for robbery.

• 27:23Laci Mosley?

  No, um, so this is after the police have kind of sequestered the scene. But you can see even now that there's not like a lot of people there. And I actually caught a few videos on TikTok of people who were there at the scene of the crime and had no idea. They were taking videos of the scene and being like, I'm in Paris, it's so beautiful. And as they pass this part of the Louvre, you can see the cherry picker sitting up there. And this is before the police cars and the tapes, so they didn't even realize they're filming a robbery being taken place. And this is firsthand knowledge that I have because my showrunner right now, he took his two daughters to go to Paris, the weekend that this happened. And then the cute little black girls, my God, I love them so much. And they got up to the building, they had their tickets,

• 28:05Laci Mosley?

  and everybody there was being so hush hush about what happened. So they were like, hey, we have our tickets. And they're like, the museum's closed. And they're like, what? No, it says it's open. And they're like, yeah, no, no, it's closed. And like, would not tell them why. And so they had to get online before they understood that a robbery had taken place. So they were so shook and embarrassed. They weren't telling people why they couldn't go to the Louvre on that Sunday.

• 28:27Speaker 05

  Wow. I'd be so upset if I came all the way to go see the Louvre and then find out I can't get in because somebody used a cherry picket or steal stuff.

• 28:35Laci Mosley?

  And like, they were, they were so excited to see the Mona Lisa. But they're, you know, my showrunner's trying to be like, but you have an even cooler story. You were here when it got robbed.

• 28:43Speaker 05

  Right, that's true. Very few people can say that.

• 28:45Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So they got through the window, like I said, using a disc cutter. And then they then threatened the card, the, the guards with the disc cutters, who evacuated the museum and cut through the glass of two display cases containing jewels. So they got in with their circular saws. And then the security was like, oh, oh, wait, no, don't do that.

• 29:11Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no.

• 29:12Speaker 05

  Listen, send, send your letters.

• 29:16Laci Mosley?

  We do not, we hate to this.

• 29:17Speaker 05

  French listeners of Scam Goddess, send your letters.

• 29:22Laci Mosley?

  Parlez-vous la française? No, no. And, um, they're like, swiper, stop swiping. And they were like, we gonna cut you out with these saws. And they were like, okay, we, we, we, we, we, bye-bye.

• 29:36Speaker 05

  You gotta get close enough to get them with the saws. This is not a chainsaw, it's a little circular saw.

• 29:40Laci Mosley?

  They don't carry guns.

• 29:42Speaker 05

  That's not good either. Somebody needs to have a weapon.

• 29:44Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. I love this for them. This is how robbery should go. Like, look, if you up on me, you up on me. I would rather not get hurt and leave with my life. I'm not dying over the call and I have the jewels.

• 29:54Speaker 05

  You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. What am I talking about? You're right. You're right.

• 29:58Laci Mosley?

  I will die for these shining rocks.

• 30:00Speaker 05

  No, I won't. I won't even shine for mine. If I had some valuables in this house, which I do not, I wouldn't die for them.

• 30:06Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I ain't never seen a valuable.

• 30:07Speaker 05

  Take it.

• 30:08Laci Mosley?

  Don't even think about it, y'all.

• 30:09Speaker 05

  Got this from Macy's. Go on, take it.

• 30:11Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 30:12Speaker 05

  The costume jewelry department is where I get my jewels. Go on, take it. It's five dollars.

• 30:17Laci Mosley?

  I've never owned nothing real.

• 30:19Speaker 05

  I have never owned anything real because I don't see the point. First of all, people might assume that it is real because I have it on me. So why, who am I? My wedding ring is real, allegedly.

• 30:26Laci Mosley?

  I'm lying. I literally wear a copious amounts of designer shit.

• 30:30Speaker 05

  I don't, I don't, I mean, I got some design. I have some designer stuff from back, from back in the day, from back in the day.

• 30:36Laci Mosley?

  I'm getting more practical, okay? I haven't been in a Chanel store in, in, in a few years.

• 30:41Speaker 05

  I have never been in a Chanel store.

• 30:43Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 30:44Speaker 05

  Never. Louis and Gucci had me in a chokehold for a minute.

• 30:47Laci Mosley?

  One time I went for my mom, okay? So it wasn't always for me.

• 30:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, you gotta, I gotta, you gotta let it go. I had to let, I let all that luxury go.

• 30:53Laci Mosley?

  No, I'm letting it go because I got classic bags too. So I was like, this is good. I can wear these forever. I don't need to waste, walk around wasting money on a purse. Okay, I'm trying to get it for free. I'm trying to work hard enough that people start giving me everything for free.

• 31:04Speaker 05

  Somebody give me a Louis Vuitton. Come on, Louis.

• 31:07Laci Mosley?

  Right. I'm gonna start working them in.

• 31:10Speaker 05

  Let me hold some, Louis.

• 31:12Laci Mosley?

  Literally. Uh, but you know, iconography is what it is. And then like, once I started really studying leather and stuff like that, Coach makes some of the best quality leather bags out there.

• 31:21Speaker 05

  They do always, always have. Back in the day, they would repair your Coach bag for the life of the Coach bag. You send that sucker in because it had a little scuff or something. They would make that thing buttery and send it right on back to you.

• 31:33Laci Mosley?

  Remember we cared about quality?

• 31:34Speaker 05

  I remember.

• 31:35Laci Mosley?

  That's why it's so difficult for me now when I see like younger generations thrifting, like the vintage don't hit like the vintage used to hit. Because people used to really make pieces with so much integrity that like a vintage piece would have such great quality. Nowadays, they waiting for you to let it disintegrate in the ocean. So it's only worth one wear and half a wash.

• 31:54Speaker 05

  That's right. That's right. You ain't told no lie.

• 31:57Laci Mosley?

  No, it's painful. I love, I love, I love clothes and shoes and purses. But anyways, besides the point, we're back to the jewels.

• 32:04Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 32:05Laci Mosley?

  So they take these saws and they start cutting through this glass that contains these jewels. And we have a shaky phone video of the heist. Lep now, phone cameraman.

• 32:15Speaker 05

  Somebody, somebody.

• 32:15Laci Mosley?

  I wish you could have got a little more steady, but we'll take shaky. We know you were scared. You didn't want to get circular sawed. That's fair.

• 32:28Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so these are the construction worker robbers getting to work. They're very calm.

• 32:33Speaker 05

  They really are.

• 32:36Laci Mosley?

  They look like they cut glass every day.

• 32:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, I heard. Heard two of them might have got caught already, is what I heard.

• 32:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so, um, the thieves were inside for four minutes and made their escape on two motor scooters, scooters, excuse me, waiting outside at 9:38 a.m. Remember, they got there at 9:30. Let's talk about efficiency.

• 32:58Speaker 05

  That's a quick, that's a quick heist. That's, that is an Ocean's 15 version of a heist. Get in and get out.

• 33:02Laci Mosley?

  They rode along the scene and they disappeared. They got away with eight pieces of crown jewels from the 1800s, which once belonged to French rulers, including Napoleon III's wife, Empress Eugenia. So they took the jeweled headbands, necklaces, earrings, and brooches, worth about $102 million. They also took Eugenia's crown, but they dropped it on the way out. That's what I was talking about. But they did leave the regent diamond that you were talking about. I think, one, because of the curse, and also because it's a $60 million diamond that you would have to cut so much for it not to be recognizable on the black market. Otherwise, no one would want to put their hands on it.

• 33:39Speaker 05

  Right, it's not worth it.

• 33:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's not worth the trouble. The rest of these pieces, people either suspected that, at least what I've been seeing, which I kind of agree with these theories, that these four robbers either already had a billionaire who had a list of the things that they wanted for their private collection. So this was just them running to the store and picking it up. Or they were taking pieces that they could easily, like, break down and resell the diamonds after just reshaping them a little bit, because they weren't too aggressive of a size.

• 34:07Speaker 05

  And you're saying display. You mean, you think that there could, people think that there could be a billionaire that wants to put a crown somewhere in his house, under glass, and then what, explain to people that, where, how was he going to explain to anybody where he got it? He just wanted to collect it?

• 34:21Laci Mosley?

  This is the sociopathy of being a billionaire. It's just like, you have more money than what you know how to do with. And so, maybe only two people would ever see that. You know what I mean? But you stole it, and you know you stole it. And so that's like, you're not a murderer, but you are like a thief of high-end things.

• 34:35Speaker 05

  Absolutely. Okay, got it.

• 34:37Laci Mosley?

  That's how you get your kicks on Route 66.

• 34:39Speaker 05

  Sick.

• 34:40Laci Mosley?

  So, but it's either one. And so, people are hoping that it is somebody, a financier, who wanted these things illegally, because at least then, the jewels are more likely to be intact in their, you know, historic state. But if they just really came in to get their bag, then this stuff is probably already melted down. It only takes an hour.

• 34:56Speaker 05

  It's already gone. It's already changed into whatever it needs to be for them.

• 34:59Laci Mosley?

  Right. I hope it floats this way to me. I'd never know, but I wanna, I wanna have a piece. Why not? Y'all stole it anyway. Give it back. So, the gang tried to set fire to their ladder vehicle so they could destroy the evidence, but were stopped by museum staff member. Police later found power tools, a blowtorch, gasoline gloves, a walkie talkie, and a blanket at the scene. No one was injured during the incident. I think it is so funny that there is a museum staff member, "Who saw these people?" It was like, "Hey, hey, don't set the truck on fire. Have a good day." And like, you, you literally caught the robbers, bro. He was like, "Say, don't pay me enough."

• 35:42Speaker 05

  I mean, listen, I, I get it. And if they, and if they have no weapon, they can't protect themselves. And they don't know what these people coming to do. They tell you, they tell you if you tried, people trying to steal stuff from Target or Walmart, they say, "Go on, let them go. Don't risk your life."

• 35:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I mean, Target builds cases against people. Fair warning, y'all, if you're stealing from Target and you think you're getting away with it, at least switch up the stores. I mean, that's not what I said. I, stop. And don't.

• 36:06Speaker 05

  I don't know if switching helps either, because I think that, I think they might be sharing the faces.

• 36:10Laci Mosley?

  Are they sharing info now?

• 36:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think they sharing info of the, of the people.

• 36:14Laci Mosley?

  I, I thought Targets were like the police stations, like in the 70s, where like, you could do a, you could do a crime and then just move over state and nobody knew. Ooh, if the Targets are starting to share information, y'all, it's, it's a wrap. But they will wait until they got you on a felony charge. They'll let you steal enough to where they can really press charges against you. So you're not getting away with it.

• 36:32Speaker 05

  People think that camera is just the one facing you when you doing the checkout, the self-checkout. They got cameras over the self-checkout. So even if it looks like you scanning everything in the camera in front of you, if you doing that little scam, the, the above one can see if you scanning everything in it before going that bag. I be watching them YouTube videos. They tell everything.

• 36:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they really do. It's, it's harder to steal these days, guys. Okay? I told y'all about how upset I got when I had, I couldn't steal bags from pavilions no more. Now, look, I was buying the food. I wasn't putting an apple tag on a steak, but... I thought I should at least get a free 10 cent bag. Okay, I'm bringing up my own groceries. I work here, I'm getting my wages. And now they got like a little bag overlord. So you gotta put in how many bags you want. And then the bag overlord comes over and she's starting to lick her finger. And counting out the bags. Yeah. You can't even steal the bags no more.

• 37:21Speaker 05

  10 cent is wonderful. I was in Canada recently and I got charged $2 for a bag.

• 37:26Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it's €1 here. And the euro is stronger than the dollar. So that's $1.21.

• 37:33Speaker 05

  That's not good.

• 37:33Laci Mosley?

  For a bag.

• 37:34Speaker 05

  I don't like it. I don't like it.

• 37:35Laci Mosley?

  I got my little disposable bags. I be walking around trying to be as green as the grass. Cause they don't play.

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• 39:14Laci Mosley?

  So we got the one museum employee who caught the robbers was just like, "No, I saw him," but then they got away, right? So after the theft, museum director Laurence Decamp appeared before the French government to address questions from lawmakers and acknowledge the museum's surveillance system isn't as solid as it could be. You think, Laurence? "Part of the building was not adequately covered by external cameras at the same time of the theft," she said. So some rooms at the Louvre are not completely protected by video surveillance systems, as I spoke to before, including the Sully Wing, which is only 40% covered by security cameras, and the Richelieu Wing, which is only covered 25% by cameras.

• 39:58Speaker 05

  Can I just, can I, I have a question. Why would they release this information?

• 40:02Laci Mosley?

  Richelieu.

• 40:03Speaker 05

  Why would they tell people that it's only 20, where it's 20 and when it's where it's 45? Because you're basically just telling everybody, "This is where you come to get your items."

• 40:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's given that airport lady who works at the Mac.

• 40:17Speaker 05

  It's given inside job to me because I'm thinking these jewels are probably, you know, insured.

• 40:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 40:23Speaker 05

  And if the Louvre is having some financial problems, then what easier way to get an influx of money than to have something stolen.

• 40:32Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. And then also,

• 40:33Speaker 05

  Allegedly, I'm not.

• 40:34Laci Mosley?

  Allegedly, allegedly, these are all theories. Okay, I got my, you see, I got my aluminum foil hat on, okay?

• 40:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, this is all theories.

• 40:41Laci Mosley?

  My other aluminum foil theory is like, harkening back to like the Mona Lisa. When it was stolen, obviously it became super famous and everybody wanted to see it when it came back. But now we have these like in-depth descriptions of these pieces. People are now more interested in these pieces. They're more interested in the Napoleonic era.

• 40:57Speaker 05

  So when they get them back, then the girls are gonna be lighting up. Yeah, I've seen. Yeah, that's, that's tinfoily, but I, I'll take it.

• 41:05Laci Mosley?

  This the new Mona Lisa?

• 41:07Speaker 05

  It feels right. It feels right.

• 41:08Laci Mosley?

  They were like, we overdue for a new Mona Lisa, okay?

• 41:10Speaker 05

  It feels right.

• 41:11Laci Mosley?

  They kinda getting tired of her. They know she's small.

• 41:13Speaker 05

  And a lot of people talking about the museum, you know, and if, again, if they're going through some financial difficulties.

• 41:18Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:18Speaker 05

  What better way to get people coming in to, you know, see the scene of the crime or?

• 41:23Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 41:23Speaker 05

  You know, just saying.

• 41:24Laci Mosley?

  I mean, if I lived in France, I don't know, I might buy me a construction jacket and go in there and have a photo shoot. For, for the kicks.

• 41:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, all right. I don't think anybody with a little, a yellow vest getting back in the Louvre anytime soon.

• 41:35Laci Mosley?

  I would fold it up in my backpack and then I'd take it out, right? When I got to the Louvre, like, what's up, y'all?

• 41:39Speaker 05

  And then they tackle you to the ground because they are looking for anyone. And then they look, watch this episode and find out you be stealing cones, traffic cones, and they're like, she is a thief.

• 41:49Laci Mosley?

  Cones to a hundred million jewel heist is the least.

• 41:52Speaker 05

  It all starts somewhere.

• 41:54Laci Mosley?

  It does. And you know what? I could get tempted, okay? I do love me a little heist. I just love a little, it's just the sexiest kind of robbery. They did it without weapons. They just threatened a little circular saw, but the circular saw wasn't intended to circular saw someone. It was intended to work on the glass, but they were like, oh, we use a new tool. And they were like, okay, we leave. Like, I, it's beautiful.

• 42:12Speaker 05

  You gonna get so in trouble with this French, this French accent, I'm telling you now. You bout to be.

• 42:17Laci Mosley?

  Everybody knows I be beefing with the French, so that's fine. Every time I go to France, it's up. Honestly, I think it's just Paris, but like, cause I don't really have the other problems in other parts of France, but Paris, I, Parisian people and me do not mix. They're rude for no reason. And every time I'm there, I wanna fight. Like, when I was leaving last time, I mowed into some teenagers, I won't lie. I was at the train on my way to Amsterdam.

• 42:38Speaker 05

  How many crimes are you going to admit on this podcast? How many crimes?

• 42:45Laci Mosley?

  They should've got out the way.

• 42:46Speaker 05

  What is happening?

• 42:47Laci Mosley?

  They were older teenagers and I'm five. I'm five one in.

• 42:51Speaker 05

  Threats?

• 42:52Laci Mosley?

  I'm five nine on the internet, y'all, but, but I'm, but sometimes in real life, something happens to me on like, a cold day where I'm five one. And, um, I'm teenager high.

• 43:01Speaker 05

  Every day is cold.

• 43:03Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no. And when it's warm, I'm definitely five nine in bed. Don't do that. Don't do that. I'm working, I'll get my Wikipedia changed.

• 43:14Laci Mosley?

  Yo, I was at Essence once, like, you know, the women, Black women in Hollywood event. And I was on the carpet and I was next to Janelle James. And watch her go come up to me and be like, "Damn, you short, Lacey." I was like, "Yeah, yeah." "You've known me for years. Why would you say that?"

• 43:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, cuz the truth just jumped out of her. She couldn't help herself. Cuz she put some heels on, she statuesque. And I'm 5'2". I'm 5'2", so I'm aware of where I fit on all of this, so I don't even...

• 43:39Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, whenever we stand next to each other, it's giving 5'10", so, you know.

• 43:43Speaker 05

  It's giving 5'2" and 5'1", you are dreaming. Unless you got them heels on, cuz you be wearing them big heels. I don't wear them heels like that.

• 43:49Laci Mosley?

  But, you know, I can't wear them all the time cuz I'll be too tall, taller than everybody. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, so now that we've shared this truth, um, no, they were in the way. And they should've moved and been polite. And I was so sick of, like, just rude-ass Parisian people that I was like, "I'm just gonna keep walking. Y'all kids gonna learn a lesson." They were fine.

• 44:07Speaker 05

  Send your letters.

• 44:10Speaker 05

  I love the Parisian people. I've never had a problem when I've gone. I've gone one time. I know she's had, she's had many trips to Paris. I've been once, and the one time I was there was lovely. You guys were wonderful. Thank you very much.

• 44:21Laci Mosley?

  Okay, yeah, you're a vet Nicole Brown, okay? You even have like a French name. Well, I guess I do too. Lacey is French, but I still don't like them. Anyways, that's my breakup. Look, if you're French and you listen to the show, you know, I love, Oui oui, I love you, okay?

• 44:35Speaker 05

  I love you so much.

• 44:36Laci Mosley?

  Je m'appelle... No, no, no. Why you say "I love you" in French? I used to know.

• 44:40Speaker 05

  It's amour. I know amour is the, isn't it?

• 44:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, jetaime?

• 44:44Speaker 05

  Jetaime, no, yeah, jetaime, jetaime. Okay, see, let me stop. I'm done. I'm done.

• 44:49Laci Mosley?

  Y'all know it's Spahyol, okay? Y'all know that's, look, I can only get a little bit of it cuz it's Latin, all right? So anyways, back, back to these French people who I...

• 44:57Speaker 05

  Love. And respect and honor.

• 44:59Laci Mosley?

  And respect and honor if they listen to the podcast. If they don't, it's up.

• 45:05Laci Mosley?

  I love more of them if you get them to listen. So, um, they're, like you said, they're telling everybody, well, we ain't got, we got forty percent coverage over here. We got twenty-five percent coverage over here. We ain't got no cameras over there. It's like, yeah, you could have probably kept that as like a little secret for y'all selves.

• 45:19Speaker 05

  Don't do it.

• 45:20Laci Mosley?

  And so, even if the cameras did catch the thieves in action, the feeds probably funneled into a bank of video screens monitored by only one or a few staff members. They got one guy.

• 45:34Speaker 05

  It's way too much information.

• 45:35Laci Mosley?

  One guy. The Louvre is huge. They got one guy.

• 45:41Speaker 05

  It's too much information. They're just really telling everything, and I don't like it.

• 45:45Laci Mosley?

  Looking at it like fifty-limb screens.

• 45:49Speaker 05

  It's just asking, it's just asking for theft. It's asking for theft. They might as well put a sign and say, come on in, everything's free.

• 45:56Laci Mosley?

  Jacques was over there running back and forth trying to see what was like, please.

• 46:02Speaker 05

  Francois.

• 46:03Laci Mosley?

  Why y'all do Francois like that?

• 46:04Speaker 05

  Pierre.

• 46:06Laci Mosley?

  Pierre. And you know Pierre ain't got twenty-twenty vision, and he refuses to wear glasses.

• 46:10Speaker 05

  And Pierre tired. He tired and his feet hurt.

• 46:13Laci Mosley?

  He just over there sucking on a baguette. He ain't even watching out them cameras.

• 46:17Speaker 05

  He don't care. Got his crepe with his little Nutella in it. He all right with bananas.

• 46:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I got Pepe Le Pew back there. I know he take a hell of a nap.

• 46:24Speaker 05

  He is just relaxing and enjoying his day.

• 46:27Laci Mosley?

  He probably didn't even know the robbery was going on. Somebody woke him up.

• 46:29Speaker 05

  And even they got the Plexiglas over the lady. Can't nobody do no soup today. I'm good.

• 46:33Laci Mosley?

  Right. Even when they did the soup, they had enough time in that soup video to throw that tomato soup on Mona.

• 46:38Speaker 05

  And then talk about it.

• 46:40Laci Mosley?

  They unzipped their jackets. They're like, this is our cause.

• 46:43Speaker 05

  Nobody was tackled. Nobody was tackled.

• 46:45Laci Mosley?

  Speech out. They were chilling.

• 46:47Speaker 05

  Not a fan. Not a fan.

• 46:49Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, I'm kinda okay with that because like Mona, she was good. She had her Plexiglas. And like, did they really need to be tackled? Like, no, you can arrest them politely and take them away. But they're trying to raise awareness, it says.

• 47:01Speaker 05

  That's what they said.

• 47:02Laci Mosley?

  And so, that's what they said. But you know, in America, I think we resolve, we get. To tackle it too quickly.

• 47:08Speaker 05

  Well, it depends. Well, it depends on the melanin quotient.

• 47:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 47:13Speaker 05

  If you ain't got no melanin, they'd talk to you for hours.

• 47:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, if you got the complexion for protection.

• 47:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, but if you got a drop of brown or black, you on out of there. They gonna get you to the ground.

• 47:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they gonna tackle you while you thinking about it. We saw you thinking about doing something.

• 47:27Speaker 05

  We saw you thinking about stealing something. Yep, I know, I just said.

• 47:29Laci Mosley?

  We saw that glint in your eye.

• 47:30Speaker 05

  I told you, been watching them videos. I see how quickly they be taking down the black and the brown people.

• 47:34Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 47:35Speaker 05

  I said it.

• 47:36Laci Mosley?

  Although I will say, I did recently see a video on TikTok where there was this like suburban white mom. And you know, I love my white ladies, y'all. This is not, I'm not, this is not about race in this way. I was just shocked that they actually treated her like a thief. Because she was like, they're like, ma'am, we need to detain you and take you to loss prevention. And she had her baby in a stroller. And she was like, no. They were like, no, ma'am, we're the police. Like, we're detaining you.

• 48:01Speaker 05

  No.

• 48:01Laci Mosley?

  And she was like, I know my rights.

• 48:04Speaker 05

  What gets me, what gets me is when they're like, don't touch me. No, boo, we gonna touch you because we gonna put these arms behind you.

• 48:10Laci Mosley?

  That's what they were doing. They were like, ma'am, we don't want to cuff you in front of your child. Like, can we, can you just walk with us so that we don't have to make a scene? And she was like, I know my rights. Get away from me. And then she starts trying to zoom away with her stroller, trying to like run away. And they grab her, and she's like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. And like hooting and hollering. And they were like, ma'am, we tried to give you the chance to do this civilly. Like, what are you talking about? It was so funny because she really, really thought. She was like, I'm not black, y'all. What are y'all talking about?

• 48:38Speaker 05

  How dare you? I can steal without a problem. I do it all the time.

• 48:41Laci Mosley?

  Guys, did you guys, I did get a tan recently. I was just in the Bahamas. I'm not black.

• 48:46Speaker 05

  I'm not black. I'm not black.

• 48:49Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my goodness. But I did love how she, she really was like, no.

• 48:53Speaker 05

  Please, please. They're used to it being a no. They're used to their no being enough. And it's just a new age. It's a new age.

• 48:59Laci Mosley?

  I love that for them. I don't want them to start getting attacked like we get attacked. I just want us all to not get attacked. I just want to join you. I want to be with the police and be like, no.

• 49:08Speaker 05

  No.

• 49:09Laci Mosley?

  That's so cute, but no. Like, I just want to join you, girl. I don't want that to happen to you. I don't want you to get tackled. But anyways, so back to Lawrence. This is the woman, right? So, this is the woman who was running the museum.

• 49:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:24Laci Mosley?

  She's, so she said she had offered her resignation to the Ministry of Culture after the theft, as she was willing to take the fall for it, but the offer was declined. So she was like, "Look, I'll quit. It was my fault. I endangered the people visiting it."

• 49:37Speaker 05

  She was trying to quit because she already had the money. They didn't got the truth. Allegedly. I just feel like, in another space in time, another space in time, she had something to do with it, and she was gonna get her cut, and she didn't need that job no more. And she thought they was gonna fire her, when they didn't fire her, she's like, "I will, for my honor, I will," and now she gotta stay working there.

• 49:55Laci Mosley?

  "J'en ai, I quit, I quit, and lay on the sword."

• 49:58Speaker 05

  This is just my opinion, it's my opinion.

• 50:00Laci Mosley?

  Nobody asked you to do that. My, okay, that's one of my opinions too. It's either like, she was like, "All right, well, I quit, I'm so sorry." And then, see, this action is terrible, and I don't care that it's terrible, because I'm not gonna try.

• 50:11Speaker 05

  You are committed, you are committed to offending as many Parisians as you can in this podcast.

• 50:17Laci Mosley?

  Just specifically Paris. If you're in the south of France, if you're in any other part, you, you good, you good. But so, I'm of the mind of yes. She could have been like, "Oh, this is my bad. I endangered all these people. I let these precious historical jewels be stolen. I'm gonna bow out. I'm so sorry." There's another mind of mine that's like, similar, she was just like, "Oh, this is so crazy, y'all, that they broke in and got all that stuff. I'mma leave now. Bye. I don't know them." I don't know all four of them. Wait, y'all ain't say their number yet?

• 50:48Speaker 05

  And I didn't tell them how to get in. I didn't tell them how to get in, and that nobody is on that side of the...

• 50:52Laci Mosley?

  I didn't put my worst security guards over there, the ones who I knew would fold real fast. Ah, and then, you know, like, that, or my third option is, is that she does feel bad, but she really was like, "I don't feel like fixing this. Like, y'all broke already."

• 51:07Speaker 05

  Right. It's about to be rough for me going forward as we try to get through this, so I don't want to be a part of it. It's just...

• 51:12Laci Mosley?

  I've been tired of this whack-ass job. I've been looking for a reason to get up out of here.

• 51:16Speaker 05

  It's one of them three. I'mma tell you that. It's one of them three.

• 51:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Gotta be. So the French law prohibits institutions like the Louvre from insuring its property. Security experts say museums are a soft target compared to other highly secured buildings like banks. Museums have to balance security with the freedom to see and engage with collections. You can actually go to a museum when the museum is open and see it right in front of you, unlike the money in a bank vault. And I want to highlight that too because people were like, why even steal from the Louvre? When like you could go to Cartier, you could go to like another jewelry store. Cartier has better security than the Louvre.

• 51:55Laci Mosley?

  And a lot of stores like that, like high-end jewelry stores, like if you were trying to do a smash and grab at night, you wouldn't be able to because they take the jewelry off the floor when they close the store each day and lock it up in their vaults and stuff. So it's much more difficult. And like a lot of times like security at high-end jewelry stores, they might be packing some, you know, at least a little tazzy taz. At least a little shoot shoot, you know? Whereas like at the Louvre, it's like this is art and the only way for it to be appreciated is for it to be out on display.

• 52:20Speaker 05

  I wonder, I wonder also if they did it during the day because they thought that if, if it had some Ocean's Eleven type lasers and whatnot, they would only be on when no one else was there. So the best time to break in is when there are no security things you could trip, right?

• 52:34Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. I agree because during the day, they can't exactly have anything that you can trip up on because everybody's walking freely throughout the space. And a lot of times the guards at the Louvre, and this is another lesson for you people in Paris, because maybe if y'all were a little nicer, this wouldn't be a problem. I saw some videos of people posting where it was like, they were like making their little content or whatever. And the guard was like, you have to go, you have to do, do, do, like, and stepping in her video on purpose to ruin it. It was just stuff that was like kind of loserish to me. Like this is a tourist attraction. You know, people are going to take videos. This is one place where I will say you can get your TikToks off. You're not at the subway. You're not filming strangers. You're not harassing people on the street. You're at a tourist attraction. That's what tourism is. Just take a picture. You came for the picture.

• 53:17Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 53:17Laci Mosley?

  So he was just being rude and annoying for no reason. She posted it. She was like, damn, I guess I should have been paying more attention to who was stealing them jewels than me.

• 53:24Speaker 05

  Right, said to me, my little TikTok video.

• 53:26Laci Mosley?

  Clacking. Yes, but I told you they'd be rude for no reason. I'm like, y'all looking at the wrong thing, trying to see who not recycling properly while y'all getting robbed. That's what you get. So I love the French. Did I say that?

• 53:38Speaker 05

  You ain't said it enough. Say it again.

• 53:40Laci Mosley?

  I love, I love the French. Voulez-vous que c'est à la France? C'est swans?

• 53:49Speaker 05

  I don't know, girl.

• 53:50Laci Mosley?

  That didn't do it?

• 53:50Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 53:52Laci Mosley?

  That didn't, that didn't bring you that?

• 53:53Speaker 05

  I don't think that, that didn't do it.

• 53:55Laci Mosley?

  I wish I could see him, his face.

• 53:59Laci Mosley?

  I thought that was nice. I thought that was nice. So.

• 54:02Speaker 05

  And you ain't gotta see my face. You know what it look like right now. You know, from that, mm, you know what it look like.

• 54:09Laci Mosley?

  So smash and grab robberies at art museums are a hot new thing for thieves. They have started targeting cultural institutions, not necessarily for their prized paintings like the Mona Lisa. Girl, they don't want you. I feel bad, girl. But Lisa was probably looking around like, oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no. Oh no?

• 54:31Speaker 05

  Oh no.

• 54:32Laci Mosley?

  Damn. Sorry, Lisa, they ain't want your ass. So, like, they don't want those because obviously that would be hard to resell and make money off of without getting caught. But for artifacts that can be dismantled, stripped, or melted down for their expensive parts, right? Which is probably what has already happened to the French crown jewels. One French senator was pretty confident about what will happen to the crown jewels, according to this video.

• 54:55Speaker 05

  Ooh, let's see.

• 54:56Laci Mosley?

  See the video.

• 54:57Speaker 10

  Um, the jewelry will be cut up or butchered and sold. I don't think anything else. I mean, we have to wait investigation. Maybe there will be a ransom, but I doubt, seriously, regarding the price of the stone and the high level of the price of the gold. I doubt that these things will never come back.

• 55:20Laci Mosley?

  I am on her side. The jewelry will be the shopped.

• 55:25Speaker 05

  You don't, you don't even want, you don't even want nice things. You didn't just decided, chosen violence and just gonna be violent for the whole episode. Just don't, just don't even care. Just don't care.

• 55:37Laci Mosley?

  I love to see the French now, man. I don't know. But look, they can do better. If they want to do better, then we don't have to have this beef no more, okay? I got beef with two countries. That's France and Brazil. They know what they did.

• 55:51Laci Mosley?

  But on the bright side, that means that the more famous your painting is, the safer it might be from getting stolen. Because if you have a famous paint, they can't boost it like that. It's like, I can't come in with like the Hope Diamond to my pawn, local pawn shop. I'm like, hey, y'all seen the Titanic? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got the Hope Diamond. No, I got it legally. Don't ask nobody in DC about it, but I got it legally. And, do you want it? No. Too famous.

• 56:20Speaker 05

  Oh, that's...

• 56:21Laci Mosley?

  That's another diamond that's cursed. The Hope Diamond is also cursed.

• 56:24Speaker 05

  It is, it is. Now, I didn't know the story behind why, but I did hear that it was.

• 56:29Laci Mosley?

  The Hope Diamond has had many names, but I think the Hope Diamond is cursed because originally, it was also in India. India got all the bling. And it was in a, like a deity, like the forehead of a, like a female deity.

• 56:44Speaker 05

  Who would be dumb enough to do that?

• 56:46Laci Mosley?

  It got snatched, and then it got tossed around between like Pakistan, Kazakhstan, all the stands, all of those countries in that area. And then eventually ended up in the hands of the Brits, and then they ended up selling it to an American who also owned the Wall Street Journal. And then she ended up like, lost her stepmom, or like her, um, mother-in-law and her son in the same year, and then her daughter overdosed, and then she went into poverty and had to sell her newspaper, which was the Wall Street Journal. And now the Hope Diamond is in the Smithsonian, I believe, in DC. It's also another cursed joint.

• 57:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, y'all gotta get away from these shiny rocks.

• 57:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, these rocks, depending on how they were harvested, you don't want them in that region.

• 57:22Laci Mosley?

  American Dad tried to tell y'all, you don't want that shiny rock, it's gonna ruin your life. Former jewel thief Larry Lawton says the Louvre thieves had a solid plan and definitely had inside help at the museum, but they made one big mistake that shows that they are amateurs.

• 57:40Speaker 11

  Well, you know, well, there's a couple of ways they can get rid of the jewelry. I will go into that in a second. But here's a mistake. They dropped one of these brooches. They only robbed, what, nine? I think it was nine brooches, you know, diamond-like pieces. Well, you just dropped a, a, a ninth of your whole entire load right there. That's an amateur move. I never dropped a piece of jewelry ever in 25 jewelry stores and 18 million dollars. It's not gonna happen. They also got the motorcycles caught right away. I mean, they're done there. What are you gonna find? They found a vest. They found one of the construction vests already. So, they made a couple of, I call them amateur mistakes, but they did get away with a lot. And obviously now, how did they get rid of it?

• 58:22Speaker 05

  He couldn't be more, he couldn't be more New York if he tried.

• 58:25Laci Mosley?

  And I love it. I love it. He's a professional thief. He was like, I never dropped, I never dropped jewelry in none of the 25 ju- uh. How many did I get convicted for? How wait, how many? I got 25, right? 25. Yeah, in the 25 that I only did, I never dropped jewelry. I feel like he's one of those people who, he was so, if you hit in 25 licks, the government at that point has to know that you're an asset. They like, private security companies have to be like, can you work with us and tell us how you will rob our places? Because at that point, you can't let that level of genius rot in prison. You gotta get that man out, and you gotta get him on your side. He's gotta be a fed at this point.

• 59:04Speaker 05

  Right.

• 59:04Laci Mosley?

  Because 25? 25 licks? No, he's talented. That's, that's talent that we have to respect.

• 59:10Speaker 05

  That's a gift. You're right.

• 59:11Laci Mosley?

  So, thank you Larry Lawton, cuz you got the tea. So, there's a main tour group. Let's get into this as we're wrapping this up. Dozens of travelers from the Maine State Music Theater were inside the Louvre walking toward the Apollo Gallery on Sunday morning when suddenly their tour group was forcefully pushed back. So this is the Maine State Music Theater. But let's go ahead and see what theater director Kurt Dale Clark had to say.

• 59:41Speaker 12

  The staircase about to enter the room next door to the room where the robbery happened. So when they realized what was going on, the guards got very aggressive immediately. But then when we started seeing SWAT teams and military people, I was like, I think there's something more going on here. And so we all turned and high-tailed it. We got very, very nervous about the whole thing. We did find everybody. We did get out of there, but there was almost instant action by the, um, by the French police and the French military.

• 1:00:14Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I'm gonna say it wasn't instant because them men managed to ride down that cherry picker. And I saw a video of them riding down. It wasn't the quickest ride. It was kinda slow.

• 1:00:23Speaker 05

  It was an escalator speed ride. It was a very slow ride.

• 1:00:26Laci Mosley?

  As soon as they got in that cherry picker box, it was like.

• 1:00:35Laci Mosley?

  Do do.

• 1:00:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's the nice elevator music as they're going down the little escalator.

• 1:00:39Laci Mosley?

  Right, it was that.

• 1:00:46Laci Mosley?

  While they carry in a hundred million dollars worth of diamonds.

• 1:00:48Speaker 05

  Man.

• 1:00:49Laci Mosley?

  I also love that they were like, oh, they're trying to be nice to the French, like, no, this, look, security came in super fast. No, baby, they did not. Also, very funny to me that the security now wants to get aggressive with these people who are just like tourists, was like.

• 1:01:06Speaker 05

  They gotta look like they're doing something because they wasn't doing what they were supposed to be doing.

• 1:01:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're right. That's when you gotta start being like.

• 1:01:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, you got to get, you're getting busy. You got to get busy when, when the eyes are on you.

• 1:01:15Laci Mosley?

  And they did evacuate people from the museum and a lot of people thought initially that it was like a bomb threat or that there was like some kind of violent thing happening because they weren't giving them any information. Obviously, it's like embarrassing and maybe they also don't want to tip off the robbers that they're still there. Um, so people didn't know. And Kurt also said, we were actually really offended because we didn't understand the language. So we didn't know what was happening. But then we started seeing, you know, military with machine guns and SWAT teams. And we realized, oh, something pretty serious is going on. Not, not Kurt being like, I was asking to speak to the manager.

• 1:01:51Laci Mosley?

  I was saying, no, sir, we came from the main theater company. We will be getting inside here. I paid my hard American dollars.

• 1:01:59Speaker 05

  Listen, they didn't came a long way. They want to see what they want to see.

• 1:02:01Laci Mosley?

  Right. And then he saw some guns, was like, oh, never mind. Okay, this is good to American. Never mind. Where y'all get them guns from, French wall? Like, I'm good. So there's other Louvre heists. In 1998, the painting Les Chemins de Serre was stolen from the Louvre and has never been found, but did trigger a massive overhaul in museum security. Clearly not enough.

• 1:02:28Laci Mosley?

  And um, and it's, I think it's le chemin de servir.

• 1:02:30Speaker 05

  Now, see, that's, now that I could see hanging in some rich person's house and no one really knowing.

• 1:02:36Laci Mosley?

  I would never know. I could walk into, like, anybody's house and be like, oh, that's cute, or whatever.

• 1:02:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, you would know. They would know. And they'd have a feather in their cap that they stole something very priceless, so.

• 1:02:46Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And so, French theft's going crazy. Last month, thieves broke into the Adrian Dubois Museum outside of Paris and stole porcelain works worth eleven million dollars. In November twenty twenty four, seven items of great historic and heritage value were stolen from the Cognac Museum in Paris. Four men with axes and baseball bats, another four men. Hmm.

• 1:03:12Speaker 05

  Same four, same four men. I say.

• 1:03:15Laci Mosley?

  And we know these four men love a cutting tool, and now we using an axe?

• 1:03:20Speaker 05

  See.

• 1:03:22Laci Mosley?

  So they smashed the display cases in broad day, like, hmm.

• 1:03:27Laci Mosley?

  Some, some of those eighteenth century artworks were recovered. The next day, jewelry were, it doesn't sound like they recovered them four men, though. The next day, jewelry worth several million dollars was taken in an armed robbery at the Eon Museum in eastern France. On Sept- and you know they also robbed Kim K of her jewelry in France.

• 1:03:47Speaker 05

  First of all, get out my brain, because I literally was, I swear to you, I swear to God, right as you said that, I was thinking about, and also, the Kim K, uh, caper was old people. These men were old. They was, listen, I'm in my fifties, but they were like in their fifties or above doing this. So, yeah, it feels like one of them died too. One of them's already died. He left his mortal coil.

• 1:04:09Laci Mosley?

  Oh, wow. Before he had his day in court, because I know Kimmy down there running up on him right now. And she chose to wear a lot of diamonds to testify. And people are like, are you sure you want to do that? Yeah. And she was like, yeah, like, the fuck? Um, which, I'm on her side for that. But you know, I guess the French really just love jewelry and robbing people of jewelry. I'm glad they left that lady with her life. You know what I mean? Like, they were just like, get in the tub, we just gonna take your stuff.

• 1:04:33Speaker 05

  We just want your stuff. Just want your stuff.

• 1:04:34Laci Mosley?

  Kim can get more stuff. Them skims are skimming, okay? She'll, she'll be fine. So I'm glad they left her alone. Um, and it seems like in all of these heists so far, I haven't heard about any injuries or any deaths.

• 1:04:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're just coming to get the stuff.

• 1:04:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they're just coming to get the stuff. They're like, hey, we're just here for your stuff. Do you mind?

• 1:04:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, actually, you haul out fresh. So if you could move your car real quick, so we can pack that up into the driveway. Because we about to take your stuff. Yeah, but you good. Your stuff not, your stuff is ours now.

• 1:05:03Laci Mosley?

  On September 16th, a little over a month before the heist, one lone criminal stole $700,000 worth of gold nuggets from a Paris Natural History Museum between 1:00 and 4:00 a.m. The burglar used an angle grinder and a blowtorch to force their way into the Riverside Museum complex, which is a very similar MO, modus operandi. If you know, the way you operate. It's very similar to the Natural History Museum's alarm and surveillance systems being disabled by a cyber attack in July. So, a 24-year-old Chinese woman was arrested for that theft in Barcelona on September 30th. Oh, I'm sorry you didn't get away, girl. Girl, I bet you a man, I bet you a man turns you in.

• 1:05:48Laci Mosley?

  I know it's a man behind it, I can't prove it, but get that Dokes meme out, okay? Because I can't prove it, but I know it. So, we have an update on the heist here, wrapping it up. French police arrest two Louvre Jew heist suspects amid manhunt. Now, I'm gonna ask you about, do you think that these arrests, before I share anymore, do you think these are valid arrests? I feel like they felt like they were globally embarrassed, at least my opinion, and I'm like, are they just rounding up anybody?

• 1:06:17Speaker 05

  I mean, I do think that they probably are valid arrests, because it doesn't seem like a very high...

• 1:06:25Speaker 05

  It worked, but these don't seem like sophisticated thieves, right? So I think that they probably...

• 1:06:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they're sophisticated, they had a cherry picker.

• 1:06:32Speaker 05

  No, I don't.

• 1:06:33Laci Mosley?

  I don't know where to get a cherry picker.

• 1:06:35Speaker 05

  No, I just think that it was an easy mark. They figured out, because I think it's inside drop, they figured out the best way to do it and how to do it. And, you know, they're leaving, they dropping stuff, they didn't get to burn up. That's what I'm saying. So it just seems to me that I could imagine that somebody was lagging behind. And if they are the age of the ones that robbed Kim K, they ain't running fast. So, I think that they could have gotten caught. I don't think that anything will be recovered. I think everything's already been chopped up, melted down, and is already on its way to wherever it's going.

• 1:07:02Laci Mosley?

  Where it's going.

• 1:07:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't think they'll get anything back.

• 1:07:04Laci Mosley?

  And you know what? To your point there, that even more validates that I feel like there is some big-money person behind this who paid these four rubes to do this. And then was like, hand over the stuff. Here's, I gave you your payment on the way there. Here's your payment for handing over the stuff.

• 1:07:20Speaker 05

  I hope they paid him enough. He or she paid him enough because, you know, if I get, if I did something dumb like this and I get caught, I'm singing. I'm, I'm sorry, I'm gonna tell you exactly who hired me. And with, you know, if I'm going down, we all going down.

• 1:07:33Laci Mosley?

  And they get to the interrogation room, she's like, enda.

• 1:07:37Speaker 05

  I'm gonna tell you everything. I'm gonna tell you everything. I didn't already show that I have no honor. I'm a thief. I'm a thief. There's no honor in thieves. I'm gonna tell everybody, doggone. I might not tell. Now, wait, wait, now. I might not tell all my buddies, but I'm definitely telling them who hired me.

• 1:07:51Laci Mosley?

  Okay, see, that might be more dangerous. Whoever hired you might be with that pew pew. You know what I mean? Like.

• 1:07:56Speaker 05

  I'm already in jail. He got to come into jail to pew pew me.

• 1:07:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but it's also the.

• 1:08:00Speaker 05

  He ain't gonna hit me.

• 1:08:00Laci Mosley?

  The prisoner's dilemma, which I learned about in philosophy. It's like, if one person snitches, everybody loses. If we all don't say nothing, they don't have nothing.

• 1:08:09Speaker 05

  You know what? This is what I know about. And this is just me living long enough and watching enough Law and Order. Somebody gonna snitch.

• 1:08:15Laci Mosley?

  And I hate it.

• 1:08:16Speaker 05

  Somebody gonna snitch. Now, listen, if, if I could be assured, if, if I was a criminal, which I'm not, but if I could be assured that everybody had my moral character as a criminal.

• 1:08:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:26Speaker 05

  You know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna steal this stuff, but I'm gonna respect all of us and make sure we get out safely. If everybody was like me, cool. But I haven't done enough group, uh, projects to know that everybody ain't like me. So when it comes down to it, I'm definitely getting in before somebody get in on me. I, but I ain't a criminal, so ain't none of this ever gonna imply to me. I ain't a criminal, I ain't got nobody to snitch on. But I'm saying if I did, if I did.

• 1:08:47Laci Mosley?

  You, you, you gonna be the right.

• 1:08:49Speaker 05

  I'm gonna sing. I'm gonna sing like a canary. I'm singing first.

• 1:08:55Laci Mosley?

  So, hold on, let me do my, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them.

• 1:09:00Speaker 05

  And again, probably, I ain't gonna tell them, all my, my fellow criminals that did the heist with me, but I'm gonna tell them who did, I'm gonna, I'm gonna point the finger who sent me there.

• 1:09:08Laci Mosley?

  See, I don't too much. You know, the whole snitches get stitches is very much like kind of like a gang culture thing, but that really does stem from the philosophy of the prisoner's dilemma. If no one tells, then we all are better off. But you're right.

• 1:09:23Speaker 05

  And if no one tells, but somebody is going to tell. That's what people need to know. You can't, in this economy for sure, and you can't trust nobody. We have already learned. How many people said they was gonna vote one way and went in that booth in November and did something else? You can't trust nobody. Can't trust nobody, dog.

• 1:09:37Laci Mosley?

  I was telling these Republican women, I was like, please cheat on your man in the booth. He not gonna know. This is your one opportunity to cheat on your man, babes.

• 1:09:44Speaker 05

  Faithful as they want to be. See, that's that. They did, they did know stitches, just stitches people. They in there not snitching on who they voted for, and they did it. And so I'm saying.

• 1:09:52Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, don't you want rice, babe? Don't you feel like, you don't realize this is gonna escalate into them taking away your credit card? Like, they like, like, women didn't use that, be able to own property or credit cards or anything that would give them freedom. Eventually, this marriage you in is gonna be slavery. Like, do you got a woman?

• 1:10:07Speaker 05

  They'd rather be slave to somebody that they know, and they, you know, that's what it is. And just, they inside the house.

• 1:10:14Laci Mosley?

  It's because they don't know everything about what happened with their grandparents. We gotta get our grandparents to start really writing shit down. Like, everybody, granny, get your granny to have a diary or get her to do one of those video diaries. Or get one of those books where they ask the questions, because once you find out that the marriages that you've been idolized, where they're like, oh, my parent, my grandparents were married for 70 years. And then you find out that Papa had a family down the street and that he was whooping all her head and she couldn't leave because she didn't have no money.

• 1:10:41Speaker 05

  And also because Grandma couldn't rent nothing herself, couldn't have a credit card herself. And if she didn't stay, she wasn't gonna eat or have a roof over her head. There's a lot of reasons women stayed back in the day.

• 1:10:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:49Speaker 05

  A lot of reasons.

• 1:10:50Laci Mosley?

  And the only reason we got into the workforce was because of the wars.

• 1:10:53Speaker 05

  Yep. People don't know that either, or forget that too. So, listen. It's rigged. Everything's rigged.

• 1:10:59Laci Mosley?

  Everything's rigged, guys. We gotta stand together and cheat together when we have to, okay? So, so one suspect was arrested at 10:00 PM on Saturday at Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport while trying to board a plane bound for Algeria, police said. Okay, these thieves are dumb. Baby, there's an Amtrak right there. They are not gonna check what's in your bag. They don't even have security scanners. Get on the Amtrak, take it to Amsterdam, fly out of Amsterdam to wherever you trying to go. That's a quick journey. I don't know why I have to tell you this, and I've never even robbed a loot. What are you doing? You went to the airport? You think the first place they're not gonna be scanning everything and everybody is the airport?

• 1:11:40Laci Mosley?

  That is the first place they're looking, bro. You would've been better just walk into the next country. What are you doing? Be for real. You were not being for real.

• 1:11:48Speaker 05

  These are not sophisticated criminals.

• 1:11:49Laci Mosley?

  They're not serious people. So the second suspect was nabbed by police as he was about to travel to Mali in West Africa. An investigator with the Paris Brigade for Repression of Banditry. Okay. The special police unit spearheading this probe. They got a source with the French Interior Ministry directly connecting the investigation. So that's how they found him.

• 1:12:14Speaker 05

  And if y'all think that one or both of them are not singing like canaries, right now.

• 1:12:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they definitely are.

• 1:12:21Speaker 05

  They're singing. They're singing. There's no honor in thieves. There's none.

• 1:12:26Laci Mosley?

  But also, they don't know if they have any evidence yet. They did try to set the truck on fire. Maybe that burned some fingerprints, like. Who's to say? This man had their face covered up. If they don't have the jewels on them physically, I don't know. Who's to say?

• 1:12:39Speaker 05

  Okay, the other person's gonna say.

• 1:12:44Laci Mosley?

  You're right. Who's to say? One of them.

• 1:12:46Speaker 05

  One of them. I'm telling you, there is no honor in thieves. If people realize that, they wouldn't be pulling heists with other people. If you wanna protect yourself while doing a heist or something crazy, you better do it by yourself.

• 1:12:56Laci Mosley?

  I wanna know how the Paris Brigade for Repression of Banditry even figured out that this guy was the guy. But, yeah, they both got caught basically traveling. And I'm like, take a train, take an automobile, keep riding that bird scooter to freedom. Okay? Gas it, charge it up every now and then, and just keep riding the bird scooter as far as it'll take you. But don't take a plane. Why does everybody think the airport is like the Greyhound station? Including Miss Girl, day in the life. Y'all acting like Miss Day in the Life.

• 1:13:29Speaker 05

  Day in the Life after I do a jewel heist.

• 1:13:34Laci Mosley?

  I got up this morning.

• 1:13:34Speaker 05

  Get ready with me.

• 1:13:35Laci Mosley?

  Get ready with me. As I do a jewel heist, I got up this morning at 7 a.m. and the first thing I did was have an oat milk latte. Then I had a croissant and some fruit and some cheese for a little bit of protein. You're gonna need your energy when you're running off with heavy jewels.

• 1:13:52Laci Mosley?

  Like, what are you doing?

• 1:13:54Speaker 05

  Oh, it's so dumb.

• 1:13:55Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my goodness. Final thoughts for you about these things?

• 1:13:59Speaker 05

  Well, I will say again that I think it was an inside job. I will not say that Miss Lady, this Miss Ma'am was involved in it, but she wanted to just resign a little too fast for me. And we ain't never gonna see that. She did. She was trying to get up out of there. She was like, I gotta, I gotta a flight to catch. They about to get on the flight. I'm supposed to be on with them. I gotta get up out of there.

• 1:14:19Laci Mosley?

  She was like, you know what? Fire me. Fire me. And it was like, nobody said that.

• 1:14:23Speaker 05

  Exactly. So something about that just don't feel right to me. And I think that the two people that were caught are singing. And I bet you when they keep singing, they gonna find out that Miss Ma'am was involved. That's my final thoughts.

• 1:14:32Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no.

• 1:14:33Speaker 05

  It's my final thoughts.

• 1:14:34Laci Mosley?

  Miss Ma'am better get herself on a plane while her, uh, security still working. She was like, fire me.

• 1:14:38Speaker 05

  My final, my final thoughts.

• 1:14:40Laci Mosley?

  I lay on the sword. And they were like, nobody asked you to do that, girl.

• 1:14:43Speaker 05

  Nobody asked you to do that.

• 1:14:44Laci Mosley?

  She was like, no, no, no. I will, though. Cuff me. Take me away. They were like, we didn't ask you. We actually want you to fix the problem. Fix it? No.

• 1:14:53Laci Mosley?

  I'm fired. No one fired you.

• 1:14:56Speaker 05

  No one fired you, ma'am.

• 1:14:57Laci Mosley?

  Really?

• 1:14:57Speaker 05

  I'm not, I'm not fired?

• 1:14:58Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 1:14:59Speaker 05

  Can I be fired?

• 1:14:59Laci Mosley?

  Y'all really, y'all really want me to stay? But I'm disgraced. I'm so disgraced. Hello? Nope. Okay.

• 1:15:07Speaker 05

  Is this on? No?

• 1:15:08Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 1:15:11Laci Mosley?

  Hello? Oh, yeah. I'm on the same page. It's either gotta be an inside job or some billionaire has like all his creepy little toys that he wanted. Or they're already melted down and they're being sold right now and hopefully I end up with a piece.

• 1:15:28Speaker 05

  Oh, she wants to put in the trunk with the car.

• 1:15:36Laci Mosley?

  Look, I'm gonna give it back as soon as Paramount hires me for the next job, which they will, then I'm gonna give it back to them.

• 1:15:43Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:15:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm just borrowing. It's out on loan. It's like, it's like an art piece that I'm, you know, I got a light on it. There's a light in my trunk, so it's good. It's like a museum, you know? I didn't steal it. I got it on display.

• 1:15:56Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:15:57Laci Mosley?

  All right. Well, you're always a dream. This was so much fun.

• 1:16:01Speaker 05

  Thanks for having me, baby.

• 1:16:02Laci Mosley?

  We always ask, where would you like to be found? Anything you want to plug?

• 1:16:06Speaker 05

  Oh, man, I'd like to be found at the bank putting a million dollars in, but aside from that, I'm on Instagram and Facebook, allegedly on Facebook. Instagram updates my Facebook, but that's Yvette Nicole Brown. And then I'm like the real YMB or YMB pretty much everywhere else. But Instagram is probably the best place to find me. And I got TikTok, but I don't really put nothing up, so Instagram is it.

• 1:16:30Laci Mosley?

  And your podcast, Squeezed?

• 1:16:32Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:16:32Laci Mosley?

  On Lemonada.

• 1:16:33Speaker 05

  Wonderful podcast called Squeezed. It's a love letter to caregivers and like a warm hug to those of us in the trenches taking care of others. And it's available wherever you get your podcasts. And it's in partnership with Lemonada Media, and I'm just so honored to get to talk about caregiving and to caregivers. And we're in our second season. You should check us out.

• 1:16:51Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and you really, you have such a warm spirit. And I love hugging you.

• 1:16:56Speaker 05

  Oh, I love you, honey.

• 1:16:57Laci Mosley?

  I love you too. Thank you so much for being here and doing this.

• 1:17:00Speaker 05

  My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

• 1:17:02Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and as always, y'all, you can find me as D I V A L A C I D Velaci on all platforms. All the first episodes of season one of Going Dutch are streaming now on Hulu, as well as the first season of my show, Scam Goddess, on Hulu, yes. And you can still buy my book wherever books are sold. And I think there are a few signed, I might be wrong with this, guys, but go check it out on Pod2, like, there might be a few signed copies of my books left. I know they sold out instantly the first two times I did it. And the last time I was like, I'm gonna get a hand cramp. So these are the 300 that will exist in the world, y'all, because, baby, I was writing y'all love letters. And I love you, and I love to do it. Yeah, and then check out our merch. And I think that's everything. I think so.

• 1:17:43Laci Mosley?

  But congregation, I want you to get out there and stay heisting.

• 1:17:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's sexy robbery. Robbery we can get behind. That's not behind it, but I'm beside it.

• 1:18:04Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Sisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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