How to Be More Fit, Confident, and Tactfully Petty in 2026 feat. Cody Rigsby

To kick off the new year, we have the one-and-only Cody Rigsby – beloved Peloton instructor, bestselling author, and podcaster. He opens up about his new relationship, who he's close with at Peloton, how he gets away with being so spicy stuff in his classes, being a Disney adult, his relationship with his mom, and his feelings on marriage (and what the straights are doing wrong). Then we get his advice on how to achieve the 2026 goals our listeners submitted, from being confident, to doing more (and less?) anal, to being more petty (but tactfully). Before Cody joins us, we share our goals for the Year of the Horse, recap holiday highlights (read: appetizer contest), and discuss why this year is Rayna's year and not Ashley's. Enjoy! Follow Cody on Instagram @codyrigsby, listen to his podcast Tactful Pettiness, and get his book. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Revolve: Get 15% off your first order at http://revolve.com/gge with code GGE. Article: Head to https://article.com for a beautiful new sofa, dining table, or bed. Better Help: Get 10% off at https://betterhelp.com/gge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Okay, but was the dick big?

• 0:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, and he was big.

• 0:03Speaker 00

  When a guy has a big dick, you can get away with a lot. You can be mid ugly.

• 0:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's where big dick energy came from.

• 0:09Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 0:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  This podcast is a Dear Media production.

• 0:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat.

• 0:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  And welcome to 2026.

• 0:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Happy New Year, guys. We made it.

• 0:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  We did it.

• 0:37Rayna Greenberg?

  A whole other year.

• 0:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I am not wearing earrings and I'm so naked. I hate this. It's like the one thing I cannot stand to not to forget.

• 0:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't even want to look at you.

• 0:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm disgusted. I got new earrings for Christmas. Like, I just, how did I forget? I have five rings on.

• 0:53Rayna Greenberg?

  The nails were worse that day, though.

• 0:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  They were great.

• 0:59Rayna Greenberg?

  At least you can brush your hair.

• 1:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I am still having gold nails into the new year. We're recording, obviously, before the year ends, but Juliana can't come till next week, so I am entering the year with these nails, and I feel like that's a bad omen.

• 1:14Rayna Greenberg?

  You also told me yesterday you haven't got a pedicure in two months, which is crazy.

• 1:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  You always pull this shit. New Year, same you.

• 1:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I haven't gotten one in about six weeks, and I am starting to enter French manicure.

• 1:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  In the winter, I don't care.

• 1:28Rayna Greenberg?

  French manicure territory.

• 1:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't care.

• 1:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you sleep next to somebody every night. I don't. My toenails are so long.

• 1:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  The fact that you said that, I scratched it with my toenail the other night.

• 1:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, you were clipping your toenails on the floor the other day.

• 1:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  What is actually happening?

• 1:48Rayna Greenberg?

  She's so brave.

• 1:52Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I wanted to borrow the clippers because my toenails, my family makes fun of me for how long my toenails are, like frequently.

• 1:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I put a paper towel down and I collected the clippings.

• 2:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, but there's like a lot of, your parents have a lot of pets and I was like, someone's gonna eat that.

• 2:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  So it reminds me of, my dad had three really funny jokes during COVID, one a month when I lived with them in 2020. And the, one of the funniest was he was clipping his toenails in the living room. I don't think he had a paper towel down. And I go, are those your toenails? Are you clipping your toenails right now? He goes, yeah, do you want them? And it was so funny.

• 2:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I said, you're just like, your toenail clippings are flying everywhere. He was like, yeah, do you want them? I was like, all right.

• 2:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Your dad is so funny.

• 2:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Time to go back to the city.

• 2:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  So yeah, we had a great holiday.

• 2:38Rayna Greenberg?

  It was my favorite Christmas that we've, this is my eighth, seventh or eighth time with your family for Christmas. I had to skip COVID because of COVID. And then the next year I got COVID, really showed you guys who was boss.

• 2:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was like, your voice sounds crazy. Are you sure you want to come? You're like, I feel fine.

• 2:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Great. I'm just gonna come.

• 2:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Um.

• 2:55Rayna Greenberg?

  COVID. But no, it was my favorite Christmas we've had because Louisa came and the boys were so fun.

• 2:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just Christmas with kids, it's different. Not a hot take, but at this age, they're two and three and so fun. And everyone just really agreed. This was their favorite Christmas. And my brother could not stop thanking me and also you and Louisa for watching them on Christmas Day.

• 3:16Rayna Greenberg?

  He sent me the nicest text. Your brother is like a different type of person.

• 3:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, because him and Steph cooked the dinner for the most part. And he was like stressed. He was like, you guys always say you'll help with the boys, but like, not that you don't, but like you need to.

• 3:29Rayna Greenberg?

  You don't understand.

• 3:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Keep them entertained the whole time. They can't like be in the kitchen and they, they want to be with their mom and dad. And we did that and I was so exhausted. Like to keep those boys entertained, it's just, they get distracted easily or they get tired. You just have to keep it going. Like one minute we were playing restaurant and the next I was up giving them a puppet show. Like you just have to keep them constantly entertained.

• 3:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I don't have it in me, long-term. Couple hours, I was exhausted. I was drunk.

• 3:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it was so, so fun. And last year I felt really like there was too much. There was too. Many presents and there was too many pastas we tried to make and I was like, we have to pare some of this shit down this year. And it felt good. It felt like not too many presents and just the right amount of food and not as many dishes and everything just felt right. And the vibes were high. It was so wonderful to have you there. And I just love like seeing you with my nephews because you don't get to be with yours as much. And it was just really sweet.

• 4:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, he can't talk yet. He took his first steps like yesterday and my sister-in-law just called me this morning. So he'll get there eventually. But I was like having fun running around with them. And yeah, I just, I love them so much.

• 4:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  And we are going to tell you guys the results of the appetizer contest on Christmas Eve, but we're going to just thank our partners first.

• 4:35Rayna Greenberg?

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• 4:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Revolve. Get 15% off your first order at revolve.com/gge with code GGE. Okay, appetizer contest. So you have been there since 2018.

• 4:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I feel that I have stepped up everyone's game.

• 5:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  And we've been doing this in our family for like 12 years, we realized. And Raina always gets slighted.

• 5:08Rayna Greenberg?

  It's every Christmas Eve, everybody submits a dish.

• 5:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 5:11Rayna Greenberg?

  And my first year, I really, I phoned it in the first couple of years, but I was like, I'll just make a thing. Like, I feel like it wasn't like-

• 5:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Everybody stepped it up.

• 5:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Everybody stepped it up when I showed up.

• 5:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So everybody, it just gets more and more elaborate every year. And this year, you tied for third.

• 5:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so your brother told me he was doing tuna crispy rice. And I was like, okay, so here's, I was gonna make last year's dish and just like update it. But like tuna crispy rice, I was like, that is a ringer. Like, that will win. But crispy rice is easy to fuck up because sometimes you eat it and it's just rock hard. I feel like we get it at restaurants all the time. It is just a rock.

• 5:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a McDonald's hash brown.

• 5:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And I was like, I will try to do something similar. I'll do Jewish tuna crispy rice, which is lakas.

• 5:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 5:51Rayna Greenberg?

  And so, which if you guys don't know, that's a Jewish food. We do it for Hanukkah. It's like shredded potatoes that you fry into little cakes. And I topped it with crab, like crab salad. And since it's like Delaware, Maryland area, I put Old Bay in it, celery seeds in the crab salad. I'll tell you what your brother did to improve upon it. Of course, he improved upon it. And Louisa is gluten-free and everybody like me made gluten-free versions Her, which was nice too, but that's what I made. I made Old Bay Lakkas with crab salad.

• 6:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  They were unbelievable.

• 6:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank you.

• 6:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I will say Matt did win with the crispy rice, which it was just, I knew he was going to. They were unbelievable, better than any restaurant. And he had made them, what, three times before? Like, he really put in the work.

• 6:26Rayna Greenberg?

  It's my Achilles heel every year is that Matt actually practices the dishes.

• 6:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  No one does that but him, though.

• 6:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, but like, that's what, you gotta play to win. Matt like plays to win.

• 6:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  He does, yeah.

• 6:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Him and Steph like actually made these dishes. I didn't have, where was, I did think about, I stayed at Megan's for the week before, and I did think about testing a recipe. Lakkas are tough. They look easy, but if the potatoes are too wet, they will never crisp up, and mine didn't crisp up enough.

• 6:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yours were great, but they were a lot of work. And so Matt won. Buck got second, which I usually always support Buck's placing, and I didn't this year. He made these pheasant sliders.

• 6:59Rayna Greenberg?

  They were fine.

• 6:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I hope he's not listening, but they didn't deserve to win. And I'm gonna start cheating, because I tally the votes and I announce the winners, and I'm done being honest.

• 7:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, give it to people who deserve it. That was, I just, I literally was like, I can rig this. I'm too honest.

• 7:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but you're so honest that nobody would suspect that you did rig it.

• 7:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Exactly. This should have been the year. I mean, Buck, just listen. I love Buck, but he didn't do anything else special. He didn't put like tomato or lettuce on it. He didn't toast the buns.

• 7:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it just wasn't his best. And then you and Steph, she made this Gruyere.

• 7:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Like a Gruyere onion tart.

• 7:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was like a French onion soup tart. It was unbelievable. You guys tied for third. And so Shashank, he went to see his family, which he was with me for days before that. And he, his family does big Christmas Eve, so we didn't spend that together, which I'm glad he got to be, he surprised his family. They didn't think he was coming. It was like very sweet. But he was gonna do these fried paneer sliders, inspired by a dish we had at Pigeon Palace here in LA, which is an incredible place to go. It's like Indian elevated like bar food, essentially. It's like really, really yummy. And then he was, I was gonna have to do too much to execute it. I was like, I can't do this.

• 8:07Rayna Greenberg?

  When he was explaining to me, he's like, all she has to do is assemble it. All she has to do is bread the paneer, make a slaw, and then build the sandwiches.

• 8:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was gonna bread it. I was just gonna have to deep fry it, like.

• 8:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, that's too hard.

• 8:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  12, no, I'm not, pieces? I can't do this. So we did these like naan with some cheese and butter and butter chicken dipping sauce. They were fine. They were totally fine. They weren't gonna be a winner, but he's. Coming for everybody next year.

• 8:32Rayna Greenberg?

  And your dad made chocolate dipped salty potato chips. They were unbelievable.

• 8:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  We had to tell Aaron they were gone. Aaron could not. He was obsessed. He was just one track mind for those chips.

• 8:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I liked all the food this year, a lot.

• 8:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was the best. It was the best of everything. It was really great.

• 8:47Rayna Greenberg?

  So what your brother did, so I left like three lacas behind with crab salad on it. So he took them and put them in the air fryer. So that the crab was warm and he crissed up the lacas again and he put more Old Bay on top of it. It looked unbelievable.

• 9:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Him and Steph, we were talking about this, couples that both of them are such phenomenal cooks and bakers, stepbakes. You don't see it a lot. I don't even, they are the same. They're both so good. I've never had anything that wasn't incredible that they both made.

• 9:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Usually you see one person that's like the DJ of the whole situation and the other person's like a sous chef.

• 9:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  And not them.

• 9:27Rayna Greenberg?

  That's, it's crazy that they can do it.

• 9:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  It really is unbelievable. So anyway, those are the results. We know you guys are always invested and we are looking for a corporate sponsor for next year.

• 9:34Rayna Greenberg?

  And maybe a cookbook sponsor.

• 9:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So next year we are going to really do this right. We can hire Bobby to come make content.

• 9:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Great.

• 9:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  And speaking of Bobby, we just wanted to take a minute and plug him. Bobby Westside, Robert McMullin allegedly, that's his real name, but Bobby West. His Christian name, government name. He is just our dear friend who hosts all of our holiday shows and he's gone on the road with us a couple of times. And he's just such a wonderful friend of ours and we've talked about him before in his app and he is a trainer, but he started this app called Adonis. And we just think this is a great thing to plug for the new year because you really can find a trainer in pretty much any city. I just asked him to clarify this.

• 10:14Rayna Greenberg?

  It's five major cities right now. So they're what? Boston, DC, New York, LA. What am I missing?

• 10:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Chicago.

• 10:19Rayna Greenberg?

  In Chicago.

• 10:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's an app that you download. Again, it's called Adonis, but you can also go to their website and you will find your location, your price and what you're looking for. Whether it's like boxing, yoga, strength training, and they'll show you all the trainers that can do it for you. And they have all these events in different cities and he's just like poured his blood, sweat and tears into this and it's a great brand. And just a great way to find a trainer if that's what you're looking for this year.

• 10:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't believe how hard he works on this. Like, he came and stayed with me in L.A. for your wedding, and he stayed with me for a couple of days ahead of your wedding to do, like, events for Adonis. And we woke up hungover every day. Sunday, I was like the most hungover before your wedding, and he, like, went to an Adonis event. Like, he's just like pushes through it. He has the most energy and like, he's just like, I don't know, I'm just, I'm so amazed by what he's done and what he's built. And yes, this is perfect for the new year. If you guys want to just like get in shape on your terms.

• 11:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. He's just, I'm seeing my wedding too. If you guys like are keeping tabs on him, his importance and his role in our lives. Those are the main roles.

• 11:19Rayna Greenberg?

  He's always naked at our live shows. That's his body, you say.

• 11:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I just, I would go to join Adonis on Instagram, and then you can get the link in their bio, but you can also just look for Adonis on the App Store. And we're doing more fitness stuff today with Cody Rigsby, but we just figured, you know, let's plug our friend. And, you know, we just have so many amazing people in our lives that have built incredible things and work really hard. And we want to tell you guys about them.

• 11:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 11:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 11:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you want to talk about last year's resolutions? And did we accomplish them?

• 11:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was gonna surprise you with that.

• 11:48Rayna Greenberg?

  If you accomplished your resolutions?

• 11:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was gonna tell you.

• 11:51Rayna Greenberg?

  That you accomplished.

• 11:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  That you accomplished all yours.

• 11:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, you didn't.

• 11:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  The main thing, the TLDR of all of this is you accomplished our joint goal and I didn't.

• 12:07Rayna Greenberg?

  What was my joint goal?

• 12:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Our joint goal was to get our pussies lasered for good.

• 12:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm glad you brought this up because in 2026, I'm not, I'm abdicating from laser. I have gotten laser like 17 times. I'm not a candidate for laser. I don't know what to tell you. I still have, I still have hair and I've just made peace with it. I don't know what to do. Like, I've gone to two different amazing companies. I just.

• 12:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  What is going on?

• 12:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Laser is strong, but I am stronger than laser. I still have armpit hair.

• 12:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Nature fought back.

• 12:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 12:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tried to get a bear puss and nature fought back.

• 12:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe it's because I have blonde hair. Like, I don't have like a full bush. I can't grow a full bush anymore, but like, I have hair. I do not look, I'm not a bald eagle by any stretch of the imagination.

• 12:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, if you guys have been keeping up, we both went to this place that Rena won't let me say, because I would want to drag them, but we can't apparently. And we were not impressed and we, our hair kept growing back. And I will say, mine is less. And so at the end of 2024, we were like, 2025, we're going to do this. And you did do it though. You tried at least. I didn't. I never went and did a session in all of 2025. I was just too busy.

• 13:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I went continuously.

• 13:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  And so it just, so, okay. Well, let's just give that goal up.

• 13:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Just, I mean, in 2026, I'm, I'm unsubscribing from laser.

• 13:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  But if you're curious, like, I just shave now. There's, there is less hair. I mean, I, I did what, five or six sessions? Like, there should be. And I just have to fucking shave my pussy. Like,

• 13:33Rayna Greenberg?

  How do you think I feel? I had like 17 sessions.

• 13:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, maybe I will try to go back to the other place that you said. You said you felt like the lasers were stronger.

• 13:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Definitely stronger at the other place. And I love it there and it's wonderful and they do a great job, but I, I just don't think that I'm a candidate.

• 13:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 13:48Rayna Greenberg?

  And I think my body also knew that like, maybe someday like hair would come back in style.

• 13:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, Kim Kardashian said, it's back. The bush is back. So your goals were that and fuck more?

• 14:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I did do that.

• 14:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  You did do that? And then just enjoy your shit?

• 14:04Rayna Greenberg?

  And I did do that.

• 14:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was it, you, I just listened this morning. Did you?

• 14:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I have a word doc that I keep every single year.

• 14:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  This morning and you just wanted, obviously, you were like, enjoy your house, enjoy your pussy and fuck more.

• 14:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I did all this.

• 14:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  You did all your goals.

• 14:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't, well, my goals weren't that hard. You were a huge help in doing what, not to fucking, I know, fuck you, but really, I, I slept with a couple of people I didn't even see coming this year. I mean, now it was crazy. And, I mean, really, wow. And I really enjoyed a lot of my shit and I did nothing else. I accomplished nothing else.

• 14:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I mean, now it feels like it's so dated. We're talking about last year, but you, Started stand up and planned a tour and get announced it at the buzzer.

• 14:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Fourth quarter.

• 14:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, at the buzzer. You did all that shit. So that is such a huge thing that was not on your list. Like, I think when it comes to goals, you won 2025.

• 14:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you got married and we will talk about it. You've done a lot this year.

• 14:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  My goals, I listened backward, shoot a special. And I was listening back and I wasn't sure at the beginning of 2025. I was like, I'm gonna do this tour, but I'm gonna probably shoot a special. But I was treading lightly about it because I wasn't sure. But I listened back and I was like, kind of emotionally listening to it. And so I did do that. I did get married. And then my other things were the pussy lasering and LASIK, which I did not do. And I am doubling down on not getting LASIK. I'm gonna go get glasses. I exam today.

• 15:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, so you're not gonna do LASIK at all?

• 15:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I may, but at this point, I'm like, I don't know. I'm excited by the thought of cute new glasses. So I'm heading to Warby right after this.

• 15:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know, the beginning of last year, I was like, my whole life, I've really subscribed to hustle culture. I do subscribe to hustle culture. You and I work really hard. I like working hard. That's my identity. And I like that it's my identity. We have a great episode coming up, actually, about like, not making work your whole identity. And we're really excited about that. But I didn't really know what this year was gonna look like. Because like, yes, I made jokes that like, I was gonna enjoy my shit. And I did, but like, that's not really me at my core. I want to do both. I want to like, work really hard and feel really professionally accomplished. And I think you and I both feel like those are the things we hold the highest. And what we do professionally, I think contributes really positively to the world. So I love doing our job. And I just was like, what is this year gonna look like? And listen, last year, at 2025, I was like, but, and listen, I enjoyed my shit. But I am really ready to get back to work.

• 16:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:20Rayna Greenberg?

  And touring.

• 16:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you want to talk about our goals?

• 16:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I just want to congratulate you for 2025. You had an unbelievable year. It was really amazing just being a part of it. And kind of taking a backseat to it and just watching, but also just like, all of your bachelorette parties.

• 16:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shade.

• 16:38Rayna Greenberg?

  They were so fun.

• 16:41Rayna Greenberg?

  And watching you film the special and work so hard and selling out all these shows and marrying somebody who I really love so much and I think is such a high quality human being. And I just, I'm just, I'm so proud of you. You really, you really nailed it.

• 16:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, thanks. And this coming up is your year. And so now I wanted to run this by you. So I have known this for a while, but I feel more than ever, I am an odd year girly.

• 17:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, those are your years.

• 17:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have big milestone moments in every year, but I sometimes can't even remember what happened in the even ones. I can tell you all the highlights from 2013, 2015, 2017, 2019, oh, 2021, 2023, 2025, those other years, what even happened?

• 17:21Rayna Greenberg?

  You got engaged in 2024.

• 17:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And we did start the podcast in 2018. Okay, there are some outliers, but hear, hear me out. I would say that yes, we started the podcast in 2018, but we met in 2017, and I think that's more important. And yes, I got engaged in 2024, but I still think 2023 and 2025 are more important in our relationship.

• 17:38Rayna Greenberg?

  What happened in 2023? You met?

• 17:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  We met, fell in love, the whole thing. You know, I feel like that was like, oh, my God, right before I turned 40, it was like the whole thing. And I also, the first two months of 2020 were unbelievable, but the rest of the year, I fucking canceled those out. So I don't even look forward to even years. I don't know. Like every time an odd year, I'm like, yes, it's my fucking year. I'm an odd year girl. Okay, 2026, I'm already looking forward to 2027. And I was thinking about it. I'm just like a number person. And we've talked about this, the numbers I've had with Shashank and all those things.

• 18:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, yeah, same.

• 18:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, my whole birthday is odd. So I was born the seven month, ninth day, 1993 year. Obviously, 1983. So everything is odd.

• 18:23Rayna Greenberg?

  It's odd.

• 18:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I'm just curious if anyone else feels like they lean more toward the other. And maybe there's a little part that I'm manifesting on some level, but it just is always like this. Like those odd years, I just remember in such a big way. And the ones between are just like not really on my radar.

• 18:42Rayna Greenberg?

  There was one year that you kept saying, was it two, was it 2023? You were like, this is the best year. And I was like, I'm having the worst time of my life.

• 18:50Rayna Greenberg?

  If you ran the tape, you might be more even.

• 18:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so I think that we have opposite years and I think that this is true. And so I got served a couple TikToks about this. And so I was reading further about it. The Chinese zodiac signs, there's always animals or reptiles applied to what the years are. So 2025 was the year.

• 19:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like reptiles aren't animal.

• 19:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Is it an animal?

• 19:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think you cut mammals.

• 19:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, 2025 was the year of the snake and it is a reptile.

• 19:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're all animals.

• 19:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, mammals and amphibians?

• 19:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Reptiles, amphibians, but they're all animals.

• 19:30Rayna Greenberg?

  They're all animals? Reina, don't do this. Yes, they're all animals. Everything's an animal, a fly, an ant. But under animal is reptiles and amphibians?

• 19:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  And mammals.

• 19:40Rayna Greenberg?

  And mammals.

• 19:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Birds, reptiles, amphibians and fish.

• 19:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, fish, feeling reptiles.

• 19:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Keep it moving.

• 19:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, okay, so I was reading about the Chinese zodiac signs and last year was the year of the snake, 2025 and 2026 is the year of the horse. And I really related to this and I was like, Ashley could not relate to this less. So 2025, year of the snake, the wood snake specifically.

• 19:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love the wood.

• 20:00Rayna Greenberg?

  The wood snake, which makes sense why I had sex with those people.

• 20:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God.

• 20:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Both very sexual, the wood snake.

• 20:08Rayna Greenberg?

  The year of the snake is about slowing down. And I knew you can't relate to this. Okay? It's about stepping back, observing, becoming, refining your identity. But progress happens kind of behind the scenes in the year of the snake. The year of the horse.

• 20:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you.

• 20:22Rayna Greenberg?

  The year of the horse, movement, freedom, momentum. So 2025, think, heal, plan, shed your old skin, like a snake. 2026, horse, act, declare, move, claim freedom. Like 2025, we're preparing in silence.

• 20:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 20:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Preparing in silence.

• 20:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Waiting in the wait. 2026, execution and movement. I was like, this is so exact. Last year, I didn't do anything. I just, I got wood and I listened behind the scenes and 2026.

• 20:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just slithered around behind the scenes.

• 20:59Rayna Greenberg?

  2026, horse.

• 21:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Charging forward.

• 21:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Horse energy.

• 21:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 21:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Big horse energy.

• 21:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 21:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I am a horse girl. So I was like, I really relate to this so deeply. And I was like, this is the opposite of what Ashley did. Ashley horsed all year.

• 21:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I guess I'm not Chinese.

• 21:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Big reveal.

• 21:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Catch me in 2027 with the fire goat.

• 21:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it does when I look back, like, I feel like I shed, I mean, I definitely had, I'm gonna say friend breakups in 2025, but I shed some relationships in 2025 and recalibrated quite a few relationships and towards the end of 2024 as well. And I end the year being, feeling really like solid with where I'm at with those things. I feel like I kind of put a period on the end of most of those relationships and where I'm at with different people. And I feel good about where I'm at with most people.

• 21:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I mean, you really just seem like you're thriving and happy and like,

• 21:51Rayna Greenberg?

  As are you.

• 21:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ready to go into the new year.

• 21:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Ready to be a horse.

• 21:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, ready to charge through.

• 21:56Rayna Greenberg?

  So I was like, I love this.

• 21:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Do you want to talk about your goals?

• 21:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. I have two main goals.

• 22:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 22:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I've already launched the tour, but I'm gonna hopefully go on a 30 city tour, sell it out, perform. I'm really excited. I'm really nervous and anxious and I just feel a lot of anxiety in my body. And I'm just excited to like, do the whole thing for the first time. Cause I've been doing a lot of stand up, but like, it's not an hour straight. And so I'm excited to like, walk out in front of our audience and they're just so loving and wonderful. And you know, you and I were talking about this and I want to remember to enjoy it. I want to remember to like, slow down and not feel so bogged down by work and the travel and going to all these cold places in the winter. And I want to just remember to like, pause a lot and just be like, this is really like, this is something to be proud of and to enjoy.

• 22:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And when you are in cold and you've traveled and you're checking into another hotel and you're fucking lugging your suitcase around and you have those feelings, just remember that you'll miss it when it's gone. That's all I can say. Just, that's your self-talk. Just fucking enjoy it. Cause you will miss it when it's gone.

• 23:02Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, it's a really different experience. I mean, I've never toured without you. Like, it's been me and you and an assistant and our tour manager and Ryan. And like, it's this giant group of people with us always. And this is much more isolating, you know? So it's a different experience. So I want to just remember to enjoy it. My other goal is to move back to New York.

• 23:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 23:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wow, hard launch.

• 23:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Figure out what to do with my house.

• 23:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 23:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. We'll, we'll figure it out together. You know, you and I and Shashank, we're a bonded pair. So it's a family. We'll figure it out.

• 23:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we were in New York for a week between the show and going to Delaware for Christmas. And people asking us like when we're moving back, I feel like you started to get like, you can't ask us this again. Like, it felt like when you get married and someone asks, so when are you having a baby? Or you get engaged, so when's the wedding? I mean, it was that kind of energy. And this just is people that love us and want us to be back there. So it's no shade towards them. It's like, I would be asking too. But it started to get like, oh my God, I can't, how many more times are we going to answer this? And again, it's just, of course, people are asking that. I would too.

• 24:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't have an answer, you know?

• 24:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 24:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like that's where our community is. That's where I want to be. I want to be closer to family. I want to be like just on the East Coast. I feel like I'm a New Yorker and that's, I, I love LA really deeply, but that's where I kind of see my future and our future. And I don't have an answer, you know, because like I have this tour and I will look forward to coming home to my house in LA and the weather. But that ultimately is my goal is to do this tour, move back to New York. And then I have a couple of little goals. They're sports related, which is crazy. I've never said this in my life and I set really small goals. I want to go skiing once.

• 24:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 24:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause I, I have committed to hating skiing, but I haven't gone skiing in 20 years.

• 24:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 24:42Rayna Greenberg?

  So I don't know if I hate it.

• 24:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  You should ski. You're so low to the ground.

• 24:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 24:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're not going to fall as hard as I would, you know, like you should be skiing.

• 24:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I should. And I mean, I feel like these are skills that a three-year-old has and not me. So I want to go skiing one time. I want to go golfing one time.

• 24:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 24:59Rayna Greenberg?

  And our friend, Hallie, is this amazingly talented golfer. So I think she'll just take us one time to a golf range and I'll see if I like it. And I want to learn to play tennis.

• 25:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 25:06Rayna Greenberg?

  That's my thing I actually want to learn to do, not paddle or padel or whatever you call it.

• 25:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Pickleball?

• 25:11Rayna Greenberg?

  No, paddle.

• 25:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ping pong?

• 25:12Rayna Greenberg?

  No, these like little paddles. It's like very.

• 25:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's pickleball, no?

• 25:16Rayna Greenberg?

  No, it's like in between and it's fancy and hip these days.

• 25:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, real tennis.

• 25:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Real tennis. I want to actually learn how to play tennis. I want to commit to going to more live music because I feel like I just missed so many concerts last year. That like it's really, I never cared about live music in my entire life. I mean, even when I met you and live music is so. Important to you like I've really never cared that much, but I feel like I missed like Tate McCray and Sabrina Carpenter and Machine Gun Kelly, most importantly, and like, I just want to go to more concerts.

• 25:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can I tell you, please, a concert I'm going to? Sabrina, you're not ready. I feel like you're not going to see this coming. We decided this, you're obviously welcome to join, but me and Shajang and Ham and Corey are going to go to. It's called the Summer of 99 Festival in Chicago and it's Creed.

• 26:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Bush and Limp Bizkit.

• 26:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Hoopastank and the Verf.

• 26:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think we're gonna go.

• 26:19Rayna Greenberg?

  That's fun. I mean, we just got talking about like, I, I don't like Nickelback, but I also don't need to hate on Nickelback. I do like Creed.

• 26:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Those times were fun back in the day.

• 26:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Bush, wait, where, when is this in the summer?

• 26:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's gonna be, uh, July 18th and 19th. I only really care about the, the second day. I don't really care about Cypress Hill and Limp Bizkit as much as I care about Creed and Bush.

• 26:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, we like Chicago and I think this will be great. I probably will not join you.

• 26:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. I don't want to hijack your goals.

• 26:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know what I'm going to do in July, but probably. But that sounds really fun.

• 26:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I want to take a trip with that. We love them. We love being around like really Shajang and this is my best friend since I was four years old. My other best friend and I just want to do something. They don't get out a lot. They have three kids. And so I think this will like get them out and to, to take a trip that's manageable and anyway.

• 27:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I think I have two more. I want to drink water.

• 27:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 27:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Not just be more hydrated. Like I don't drink any water. Like I realize a lot of days I get to the end of the day and the only thing that's liquid in my body is coffee and tequila. Like I don't drink water ever. And now that I'm 40, I think I should drink water. Uh, and I want to get into Love Island. So that's really important to me this year. And I have other little goals, but those things are like really important to me.

• 27:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I, you know, I realized as I wrote this, I have zero romantic goals for the year. I just don't care.

• 27:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Good.

• 27:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I just feel like when you're really excited about your life professionally, other things just don't matter.

• 27:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, that's really so. Accurate. And if you are back in New York, you just don't think about it like I just, you're so busy. We I just can't stop thinking about the way that I have a different brain in New York versus LA and you were just busy running around. Do not have time to be bothered. And I'm not saying we don't date. We dated in New York. People date in New York. It's not that. It's not about like, how could you care about finding a partner when you're living in Manhattan? But I don't know, it just doesn't feel like it doesn't cross your mind.

• 28:08Rayna Greenberg?

  It has not crossed my mind. The other day, a friend of mine was like, are you like, you see anybody? And I was like, I've never cared less about dating my entire life. I literally don't. And I just moving back to New York and be on the road. Like, I will just meet so many more people. Like in LA last year, I had to be so much more intentional about dating. I mean, I hired a matchmaker and a dating coach and I did dating apps. I had like, do a lot to meet people here. I just don't think you have to do as much in New York. You go out, people approach you. It's crazy.

• 28:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and the tour and the tour. We're fucking on that tour. Someone who's hopefully not on the payroll, but we'll see.

• 28:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, we'll, we'll see. So it didn't occur. I have no romantic goals for the year. I also have no weight loss goals for the year. I just, you know, I just want to exercise as much as I did last year, which is not at all.

• 28:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah, I just want to, yeah, I really stepped it up with some strength training in 2025, leading up to the wedding. And just as a woman in her 40s, like, it's important to lift weights and stuff. So I feel like I did that in 2025. I just want to like, keep it moving. But it's been a minute since I've lifted a weight.

• 29:11Rayna Greenberg?

  You look great.

• 29:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Get back into it.

• 29:12Rayna Greenberg?

  But bone density is very important. If you get older, as my gynecologist told me, oh, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna change my IUD. So I can stop dating my period. That's my last.

• 29:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  These are great goals. It's a lot. But I think you can do these all, especially the ones that are like, ski one time, pick up a tennis racket.

• 29:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I set them low. Last year, I said, I think I can do this goal. My goal last year was just enjoy my shit. My main goals are just do the tour, remember to enjoy it, have fun. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm nervous. I'm excited. I can't wait. And move out of this city.

• 29:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Rayna Greenberg.com, everybody.

• 29:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I have some micro goals as well. I'll just run through those. Figure out all my credit card perks. And I want to start doing like points hacking. And I really feel like I'm missing out and I hate that feeling. So I really want to, I feel like I'm not using perks. I could be.

• 29:57Rayna Greenberg?

  You say that to me all the time and you're right.

• 29:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And like I see Tori Dunlap and Brian Kelly and I'm like, I gotta figure this out.

• 30:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I see the lists of stuff. Also, we have status on Delta. That also gets us perks.

• 30:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. And like I have a great credit card. We have great credit cards. Like I have my Chase, preferred, whatever the fuck, the top level. We have Ploton Amex. Yeah. So it's just like, I want to make sure I'm taking advantage of all this. Okay.

• 30:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Well, let me know what you find out.

• 30:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Yeah, I'll do it for both of us. I'm really going to work on my hair health and the breakage. Yeah, I just feel like I already do so much, but I'm really noticed on a breakage. I'm really going to focus on my environmental factors. So I have silk pillowcases on the way. I need to really step up my hair SPF and some do some things. Okay.

• 30:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Your hair looks amazing.

• 30:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's getting better, but I'm noticing a lot of breakage.

• 30:41Rayna Greenberg?

  But overall, it is longer and fuller.

• 30:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it is growing. It's just breaking. And I'm doing so much, but I could still do more. And I feel like the, what I do in my nighttime routine, the silk pillowcases maybe even might get a bonnet. It really is going to change the game for me. Okay. So it's, two years from now, it's over for you bitches. Okay. Less screen time. I always say this. I said it last year. It's just, you can be doing other productive stuff than being on your phone, even if it's just reading a book, taking a walk, writing. Like I said this last year, if you're on your phone five hours a day, it's two and a half months of the year.

• 31:14Rayna Greenberg?

  That's crazy.

• 31:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's sickening when you think about it. And I'd be on my phone more than five and I'm not going to tell you guys my screen time, but it makes me sick.

• 31:20Rayna Greenberg?

  It is less than it was. I mean, significantly less than it ever was.

• 31:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I hope so. Okay. More food adventures in LA before I may or may not move away, but I just didn't, I want to really do a lot more. Like every weekend that I'm here, I want to venture out and hit my list. Cause it is the best food city in the world and I'll die on that hill in the country.

• 31:40Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's amazing. And I will write you lists on lists on lists. I will plan trips for you to Laguna, to Silver Lake, literally everywhere.

• 31:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Even just, I haven't explored enough of K-Town, like stuff like that, you know?

• 31:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I would love to be on that journey with you and I will really help.

• 31:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Macro goals.

• 31:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 31:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which sounds like some nutrition shit, but it's not. Okay. These are my big goals.

• 31:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Macros.

• 31:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  These are my macros. Okay, special release. So my special will be out this year. I'm so sorry to keep blue balling you guys, but I promised you will know soon. Yeah, it'll be worth the wait. I'm just so excited, so proud of it. We have pretty much a 99% final cut and it's really, it's wonderful. I am so proud of it. I'm not trying to, I don't know, I want to be humble about it, but it's, it's really, I always just want to say it's special, but it is a special, but I can't wait for you guys to see it.

• 32:28Rayna Greenberg?

  It's amazing.

• 32:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, and I'll do promo around that. So that'll be some professional stuff. Work on our book.

• 32:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, that was on my list and I forgot.

• 32:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  You did forget it. So we gotta work on our book.

• 32:37Rayna Greenberg?

  We do, but we do want to write a book and it's important and it's in the works and...

• 32:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I want to travel more for pleasure. I really didn't get to do that much last year. So we are going to take our honeymoon. We are going to go to Asia TBD. We're working some things out now. I've never been to Asia, so you have been, but I've never been. So just stay tuned, watch the space for where we're going to go and you guys can follow along. But just more like traveling, just some stuff I want to do. I want to be able to be spontaneous. Like if I could get decent enough hookups for the Super Bowl, hookups, there's no hookups. Prices on tickets and accommodations, I might go to the Super Bowl. Like I want to be able to do that because I'm not touring and tied down by that. And then I can't even believe I'm saying this because I've said it so many years and it hasn't happened. And I just, this is a safe space where I can tell you guys this and

• 33:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  you won't shame me, but I want to buy a home this year and I, it could be the year.

• 33:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 33:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Where are you thinking you might buy a home, Ashley?

• 33:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Here's what it is. I do not want to rent again. I feel like I am at the, that point where the next move, if it is to New York, if it is to New Jersey or Brooklyn, which I'm in New York, but wherever it is, I've, I've been looking to, to buy. I'll just say it. I, I don't want to rent again. I just don't. Like I feel like I'm ready for the forever home or the at least five plus year home. Like I look around at our house and all the things that we have and think about what that move is going to be. And I just feel like it cannot be into another house that's rented. And so I'm excited about the thought of that.

• 34:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, we'll buy a house in the Hamptons together.

• 34:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you know, again, that's one of those things. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. And we like to be fluid and flexible and we're not big on like resolutions. These are more goals. That we want to accomplish this year.

• 34:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I love your goals. Your goals are enjoying a lot more of your shit. Food adventures and travel.

• 34:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it is.

• 34:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm excited to like, help you plan that kind of stuff, too. It's just, I feel like I've gotten away from it a little bit, too. Like, LA is just, I think it's the best food scene in the country. There's so many different pockets of like, Thai Town and Korea Town and Boyle Heights for Mexican food. I mean, you could eat your way around the world in LA and it's, it'll be the best food you've ever had in your life. There's so much you can do. And I used to commit to like, a day in a neighborhood all the time. And I kind of got away from doing that. It is really like, fun to do that, like be a tourist in your city.

• 34:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've never had a bad meal here, and if we leave here, I will miss it every day.

• 34:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, we will complain continuously about it.

• 35:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I will never shut the fuck up about the food in LA. Truly, it's just second to none. Never had a bad meal. Never had, you know, I had one mediocre meal at Chacony's. I'll say it. It was, it was fine. It was fine. Like, it was good.

• 35:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's not gonna change your life.

• 35:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  But that was the worst, I hate to say this, this is really, but Chacony's is good. And that was the worst meal I've had here. That's what I'm saying how good the food is here.

• 35:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I agree. Every meal we have here, the staff is so nice everywhere you go. The weather's nice. The restaurants are big. You can get into places.

• 35:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Anywhere you want.

• 35:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Catch me in New York, I'll be like, I, I know, I will move, and I don't see this slipping, like, you and I are so bonded. Me, you, and Shashank, I'm not, I'm not doing anything without you, like, we'll figure it out. But like, I will move back to New York and complain continuously about the food. I love the food, too, but you can't get in anywhere.

• 35:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  The vibes are great. I was, I saw someone say the food is better in LA, but the vibes and the restaurants and the scenes are better in New York. I mean, I, there is no restaurant in LA that you go have dinner at 10 o'clock and then it turns up. Like, I, I've been in places in LA, and I'm like, so when's it gonna turn up? And my friends that have lived here longer than me, that's not, we're not turning up. It's not about to turn up.

• 36:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I feel like 8:30, we're just done. The restaurant's here, and I like, you know, I live near Abbott Kinney in Venice, and I walked on the street at night, and I want it to be like crawling with people, and it's just like, not.

• 36:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 36:20Rayna Greenberg?

  And that's what I really miss, is like, energy. And, you know, I'm 40, I'm not planning on having children, I'm single. Like, the crop of people that is left in New York City at this age are- People that are like you and I that have chosen and maybe not have children that, you know, live a more fluid lifestyle that have like not moved out to other cities like that's, that's our people and that's what I'm excited to like, yeah, be out past nine P M.

• 36:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like I will always make a 10 P M dinner rest in New York. I would never do it here. You're showing up, they're shutting down. That's not a thing. Like I guess they exist, but 10 P M dinner. No, that is so New York and I miss that. That's one of the reasons I wanted to move to New York because I was like, I can't go to dinner at 10 P M on a Tuesday in Atlanta. You just can't.

• 37:05Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 37:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm sure someone will be like, well, I did. Okay, I hear you. It's just, you know what I mean?

• 37:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I guess.

• 37:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, you know what I mean.

• 37:11Rayna Greenberg?

  A lot of people cleared out of L A last year. Also, you know, we started the year really rocky. I mean, so many people lost so much with the fires and that Donald Trump immediately became the president. And I mean, the first couple of weeks of the year last year, like I was picking you up to go record and we would just cry the whole way to the recording. I mean, it was just unbelievably tough. And of course, you know, my heart goes out, our hearts go out to anybody that's affected by either of those things, really negatively, Donald Trump or the L A fires. It was just, it was a rough start to the year and I do think L A kind of cleared out a little bit. It did change the vibes here. And we've just had a lot of friends move away this year. Also, we just used to have a much bigger circle of friends.

• 37:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, it just kind of, things ebb and flow in these cities. And New York will always be New York. L A will always be L A. New York felt pretty bleak for a period of time after COVID and a lot of people left and then they came back and L A will feel the same and I'll just, you know, I'll love the city forever. And I have like, whatever. I'm not going to do this now. If we move, I will be like, really have such a love letter to L A. I just love it so much.

• 38:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 38:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right. Anyway, when I'm leaving in 2025, my regrets and the gift bags, you.

• 38:17Rayna Greenberg?

  What I saw that picture in your carousel.

• 38:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  I posted a carousel today as we record.

• 38:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  The gift bags and everyone in the comments, all the girls going to eat listeners were like, not the gift bags. Oh, my God, the gift bags. And you said, leave the gift bags in 2025. And I was like, she's right.

• 38:32Rayna Greenberg?

  You also come get them.

• 38:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  So come get them then. What are we going to do? Burn them?

• 38:37Rayna Greenberg?

  We'll leave them outside air once. Somebody will take them.

• 38:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Azul candles. We'll hide them around the city. Listen, that could be a cute idea. Okay, so yeah, those are, those are our goals and I'm excited for this year.

• 38:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm excited for you to go on more vacations and just, you know, be a leisurely, have a leisurely life.

• 38:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Travel influencer.

• 38:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 38:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Listen.

• 38:57Rayna Greenberg?

  And you really have been doing it. Like, you've really been doing it. I like the stuff you've been posting. I think you're like, kind of entering a different, a different realm.

• 39:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm ranting.

• 39:06Rayna Greenberg?

  You are. And I think that's really funny. I think it really suits you. I just think you're really sharp and funny of hot takes. So I'm excited to see that journey.

• 39:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, thanks. I was like, what am I gonna do? Like, what am I, what do I do? What do I want to put out there on social? And I just have been inspired by the likes of Diddy and Caroline Levitt and

• 39:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Who isn't?

• 39:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I've just been doing these rants and I really enjoy them. And so, yeah, Ash has on Instagram.

• 39:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Really funny.

• 39:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, thanks.

• 39:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I'm excited for this year and the Honestly It's Future starts January 29th in Tampa. I have 20 city stops planned. I'm adding second and third shows in some of these cities. And I'm gonna add probably 10 more cities. Pittsburgh, I did not forget about you. It's the most important city, of course. I'm just trying to line it up with a couple of other cities. So I will announce more cities, I promise. And maybe we'll do like an international show. Maybe we'll get to London. But I promise, I hear you. And I'm just so excited. This hour is just like, it's sex and dating and it's funny and it's wild and it's crazy. And I hope you guys will come and bring your friends, bring your partners, bring your mom, whoever. And maybe you'll see Ashley a little bit on the tour, but I can't wait to kick this off. And it's just gonna be like a real, real new experience for me and a real, real wild ride.

• 40:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's gonna be wonderful. I can't wait. And this is gonna be a great year for you guys that love us. Because you get to watch my special and see you live. Do these hours that are really personal and important to us. And so, you're welcome.

• 40:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. What a gift we are to everybody. And then next year, we'll drop our book.

• 40:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. No, look at us go.

• 40:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 40:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, guys, well, we really have such a fun interview with Cody Rigsby today. Obviously, you've already seen that he's the guest, but it was a blast. And we're gonna talk more about your resolutions in the new year and all the things too. But just gonna go through our partners and then we'll get into it.

• 40:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, this episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. So, the new year does not require a new you, but maybe a less burdened you. I think now is a great time to consider starting therapy and just dip your toe in. And therapy can help you more identify things that weigh you down, or hold you back, or maybe you didn't accomplish what you want to accomplish last year, or you feel like things aren't exactly the way you want them to be in your love life, your professional life, your life with your friends, or your family. And this is just a great way to understand your relationships, your motivations, your emotions. And I think there's a lot of obstacles to doing that. So BetterHelp can really help you do that. There's quality therapists. They work according to a strict code of conduct, and they are fully licensed in the US. They have a therapist match commitment. So BetterHelp does the initial matching work for you, so you can focus on your therapy goals. You basically

• 41:36Rayna Greenberg?

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• 42:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and Revolve, if you have any goal this year of dressing better, differently, more elevated, any events you have, whatever it may be, if it's like a wedding, a bachelorette, or a vacation, or a work event, a speaking engagement, anything you have, this Revolve has you covered. But also, they have your workout clothes, your pajamas, all the things, like all in one place. This is where we get most of our clothes. And so, I was on it the other night, because we were looking up this trip that we think we're gonna take to a place that is so hot. And I am like, I want to be cute. It's important that I'm cute, but I don't have so like, I don't know. I don't want to just wear my exercise dress that I always wear. I don't want

• 42:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  to do jean shorts. Like I want to really wear elevated outfits that have to be airy. They have to be cute. And so I was on Revolve. Look at this. Could you die? Look at this. This is this L space set.

• 43:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm obsessed with this.

• 43:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are you dead?

• 43:05Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I'm obsessed with this.

• 43:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I got this L space like linny skirt and this tube top, uh, which I'm so excited about, but anything that you guys want. And they have 1,200 brands, 100,000 styles across fashion, beauty and home. So you can get your beauty and your accessories and your shoes on there. Of course, too, they really, really have it all. And you can search by all their different collections, whether you want to look for vacation, birthday even, and of course bridal, uh, brands like Amanda Uprichard, Norma Kamali, A Goldie Super Down, more to come, free people, new arrivals every single day, inclusive sizing and their shipping and customer service are second to none. I mean, this is why I, I love their clothing and their selection, but this is one of the things that keeps me coming back time after time.

• 43:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, of course, because I mean, I'm wearing Citizens of Humanity jeans and I love them. And I, of course you can get brands on other sites, but dealing with Revolve's shipping and support is second to none.

• 43:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 43:57Rayna Greenberg?

  It's unbelievable.

• 43:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. And I'm actually wearing pants from Revolve. These are the Rag and Bone Miramar jeans, which are like the sweat pant jeans, which Raina got me hooked on. And you have multiple pairs.

• 44:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Multiple pairs, multiple colors, all from Revolve.

• 44:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So we are obsessed. So check those out. You guys can just again, look up Rag and Bone Miramar. We'll put them on the screen too. And they are so comfy. Just like I'm wearing sweatpants.

• 44:20Rayna Greenberg?

  But they look like jeans.

• 44:20Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 44:53Rayna Greenberg?

  And finally, maybe your resolution this year is to make your house more stylish, more comfy. Article is going to allow you to do that. They make it effortless to create stylish, long-lasting home at an unbeatable price. So when you go to their website, there is so much to choose from and they have tons of different styles. So my general style is coastal and kind of bohemian. I live at the beach, but they offer a big range of mid-century modern coastal, Scandi-inspired pieces and everything kind of shines on its own, but you can see how people have styled them together, how their designers have styled them together. Their Instagram and their website also has like a wealth of how other people have styled their pieces. They have so much to just like inside of their collections. Everything's high quality. These meaningful pieces that they have stand the test of time. The packaging is meticulous. The weight

• 45:37Rayna Greenberg?

  and feel of the products is so quality. And I don't know, pick a room that you want to enhance and maybe just get one really good piece. I mean, sofas are so important. I love, white is sort of, listen, white is great, but I'm looking to do a little more color, a little more leather and like the new year. And so I like this Jaron, J-A-R-O-N leather recliner extended sofa. I like these like puffy leather sofas. Maybe I'm just, I'm liking more of like a masculine design.

• 45:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you see Kendall Jenner's like ski house?

• 46:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 46:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, yeah, it's just like, there's no white about it. It's out.

• 46:05Rayna Greenberg?

  It's stunning. And I just, I like these like darker, deeper, sexier tones. So maybe you just want to like uplift your style in your home. They're going to have fast, affordable shipping for you guys. I absolutely love their shipping and it is across the US and Canada. There's options for professional assembly and you can watch them kind of drive to you. Pick your shipping date, you pick your delivery date. Their support is fantastic when you need it and they have a 30-day satisfaction guarantee. So if you're in the market for a beautiful new sofa, dining table, or bed, head over to article.com.

• 46:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, let's get into it with Cody.

• 46:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, guys, we are very excited to welcome our first guest of the year. He is a fitness instructor and one of the most well-known beloved trainers at Peloton in their whole universe. He was formerly a dancer for Katy Perry, Pitbull, and Nicki Minaj. He is the author of the book, XOXO Cody, and the host of the podcast, Tackle Pettiness. Please welcome to the show, Cody Rigsby.

• 46:56Speaker 00

  Hi, that was such an enthusiastic intro. You're really good at that. I'm gonna like, I'm gonna steal your technique.

• 47:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, my gosh. No, take it. I'd be honored if you took anything from me.

• 47:06Speaker 00

  All right, great. No, that was, that was good.

• 47:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah, just shout her out when you do it on the mic.

• 47:11Speaker 00

  Will do.

• 47:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're so happy to have you.

• 47:13Speaker 00

  Thanks for having me.

• 47:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I will tell you, I've been on my Peloton journey since COVID and I sometimes like I go down on my bike and I'm like, what am I gonna do today? But when I do a Cody class, it's like, I needed that. Like, I was like, I need to work hard and laugh.

• 47:27Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 47:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  And when I first started taking your classes, I was like, Raina, this guy's insane.

• 47:32Speaker 00

  Truly.

• 47:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  The, like, resistance is insane. Like, no one else is doing this.

• 47:36Speaker 00

  Oh, you meant the workout. I thought you meant like me as a person.

• 47:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Both, both. You're resist, you're like.

• 47:40Speaker 00

  I don't think I'm that hard.

• 47:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  You are. It's a, it's good.

• 47:43Speaker 00

  I guess it's like also relative. Like, I'm a big bitch. I always say this. Like, I'm 6'2", 215 pounds, a lot of muscle, a fat ass. Those for who aren't watching the video. Hot.

• 47:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I like the mustache. I like what's going on.

• 47:56Speaker 00

  Oh, the mustache.

• 47:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Am I attracted to you?

• 47:59Speaker 00

  What was my point?

• 47:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I am.

• 48:01Speaker 00

  Wouldn't be the first one. Oh, my point is that I'm a big bitch. And so like, the numbers that I'm doing maybe to a

• 48:08Rayna Greenberg?

  You're right. I have to give myself grace.

• 48:10Speaker 00

  A petite lady might not be, might not be as easy. So I get it, you know? So my relativity to the numbers are not correct.

• 48:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I love it. And I was like, I feel like I can't go back to an instructor that will remain nameless.

• 48:24Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't name names.

• 48:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, of course not.

• 48:25Speaker 00

  Don't pit me against my colleagues.

• 48:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, we love, we love them all.

• 48:29Speaker 00

  No, you don't, but that's okay.

• 48:31Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, I'm with Ashley. Like, when I want to

• 48:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can I block people?

• 48:34Speaker 00

  I don't believe in blocking. I don't, like

• 48:36Rayna Greenberg?

  No, but can they not be in my filter? You know?

• 48:38Speaker 00

  Well, that, that, you know, no comment. That's where the mute feature comes in. You gotta mute.

• 48:44Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, because you don't want to let people know that they like bothered you that much.

• 48:47Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 48:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm talking about on Peloton.

• 48:49Speaker 00

  No, I know. And I'm only gonna compare it to like, because I was just, me and Ren were just talking about this. And I think it was like a headline, like queer eyes over. And then it was showing that some of them weren't following each other. Not to stir the pot.

• 49:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, the queer eyes, guys.

• 49:02Speaker 00

  The queer eye cast. Some of them were not like following. Each other after the last season. So I'm just like, why would you start that drama if you didn't like your castmate that much? Just press mute.

• 49:12Rayna Greenberg?

  But it gets picked up. All the reality TV stars, they also like unfollow each other.

• 49:17Speaker 00

  They want, they want the drama.

• 49:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're making a statement. Wasn't it, didn't Justin Bieber unfollow Haley or something?

• 49:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 49:22Speaker 00

  Oh, God.

• 49:23Rayna Greenberg?

  But he was like, that's Instagram, like they're out to get me.

• 49:26Speaker 00

  Child.

• 49:26Rayna Greenberg?

  He re-followed.

• 49:27Speaker 00

  I would hope so.

• 49:28Rayna Greenberg?

  The reality people do it to tune in. That's, so you just like tune into the next season to see like Jonathan Van Ness like fight with people.

• 49:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, but that's not what the show is about.

• 49:36Speaker 00

  They're not gonna fight. They're not gonna fight on camera.

• 49:37Rayna Greenberg?

  They're supposed to be best friends. I'm like upset about this.

• 49:40Speaker 00

  It's love and positivity. That's why it's a little contradictory to the, to the brand, but you know, the, they're fine. All five slash six of them are fine.

• 49:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you, okay, so tell us about drama at Peloton. Like who do you follow?

• 49:51Speaker 00

  I cannot, I, I follow everyone. Actually, there was, there was one instructor that was like, you're like, I guess I hadn't seen it. And then like just time went by and like I didn't follow back. And I was like, wait, I wasn't following you?

• 50:05Rayna Greenberg?

  We, by the way, this is not like a gotcha thing. We love Peloton and everybody there, so we, we don't expect that.

• 50:09Speaker 00

  I'm media trained enough that you're not gonna get me.

• 50:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 50:12Speaker 00

  You know, I'm not gonna talk shit about.

• 50:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. Okay. But speaking of being media trained, I feel like you get away with stuff that maybe other instructors don't. They just aren't like you, but are you, do you have a pass to say stuff that other people don't?

• 50:25Speaker 00

  Oh, a pass?

• 50:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  At, on, like, at Peloton.

• 50:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Sexier stuff?

• 50:28Speaker 00

  No, you know, I just, I know where the line is and I get so, so close to it. But it's also about just delivery.

• 50:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Yep.

• 50:37Speaker 00

  I also, I like believe in like self-deprecation. So if I'm gonna make fun of something like, it's probably about, I'm, I'm probably in that. Like when I call people hoes, like I am also a hoe, so it takes one to know one.

• 50:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 50:49Speaker 00

  So I, I believe in that. I, it's just like delivery.

• 50:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's so spicy.

• 50:54Speaker 00

  It is. I, I don't know. There's just stuff that I get away with that I don't know. It's all about delivery and I don't know if, and it's not other people's brands. Yeah, I haven't gotten in, in trouble and maybe I just like have become so well-known for it that like now I put my feet, foot on the gas. Knowing that like they're not gonna fire me. Like I just wanna see how much I can toe the line.

• 51:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 51:15Speaker 00

  You know?

• 51:16Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what people are there for.

• 51:17Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 51:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Exactly, yeah.

• 51:18Speaker 00

  Like, even the word bitch, like, I call people bitch all the time, but like, amongst my friends, that's a term of endearment. Like, that's what I call, like, my best friends.

• 51:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, 100%. But you talk about, like, sexy stuff, and if I heard, like, Alex Toussaint, like, bust out something sexy, I'd be like, what's happening here?

• 51:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Slide off the seat.

• 51:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I talk about it, it's not, like, to turn on, it's to make fun of, or to encourage those who are riding to be a slut.

• 51:44Rayna Greenberg?

  100%.

• 51:46Speaker 00

  Here at Casa de la Rigsby, I believe in, you know, sexual liberation.

• 51:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 51:51Speaker 00

  You know?

• 51:52Rayna Greenberg?

  So you're a slut?

• 51:53Speaker 00

  Absolutely.

• 51:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you are within a relationship now, you're posting.

• 51:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can we hear a little bit about it?

• 51:58Speaker 00

  Wow!

• 51:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Our audience really wanted to know!

• 52:01Speaker 00

  Is that what they wanted to know?

• 52:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, we want to know.

• 52:03Speaker 00

  I, you know, I don't even talk about it on my podcast, so it's like, I, I don't know, maybe you, are either of you in a relationship?

• 52:09Rayna Greenberg?

  She's married.

• 52:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just got married.

• 52:10Speaker 00

  You're just married?

• 52:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I am, I'm in these streets.

• 52:14Speaker 00

  You're in these streets. You know, I don't like to share too much out of respect for the other person.

• 52:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, then I have a question.

• 52:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, give me a specific question.

• 52:22Rayna Greenberg?

  How long were you single before you got into this relationship?

• 52:25Speaker 00

  It's a little complicated, at least, like, a year, but I had, like, dated somebody for a while, so, but they weren't my boyfriend, does that make sense? Like, I was dating somebody, that broke off, and it was, like, two months in between those two people.

• 52:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Does it make sense? Yeah, it's every guy I date.

• 52:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I was, like, coming out of the dating, I was like, okay, I really just need to, like, put my foot on being single, and then, of course, this person, like, popped up, and there was chemistry, and we just couldn't stop hanging out with each other, so it just kind of worked, you know? And he's hot, so, you know, like, you want to, you want to post about him when they're hot, when they're not hot, you don't want to.

• 53:03Rayna Greenberg?

  But you would never.

• 53:04Speaker 00

  No, no. Well, we've all, like, slept with an ugly guy that we don't want anybody to know about.

• 53:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, we were in a dressing room in New York at Rent the Runway, and Raina starts talking about this guy, and I don't know how the picture came about.

• 53:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I think I just had sex with him that night, it was all, I was all hungover, I, like, rolled into the Rent the Runway that morning.

• 53:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  The ugliest person I've ever seen.

• 53:26Rayna Greenberg?

  The dressing room attendance, like, I stayed friends with that one. She was like, I never forgot that.

• 53:30Speaker 00

  Okay, but was the dick big?

• 53:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, and he was big.

• 53:33Speaker 00

  When a guy has a big dick, you can get away with a lot. You can be mid ugly.

• 53:37Rayna Greenberg?

  That's where vintage energy came from.

• 53:39Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 53:39Rayna Greenberg?

  He was also tall. Like, I tried to hug you. I can't get that high. I can't barely see that tall.

• 53:44Speaker 00

  I always forget how much women love height in a man. This is, I mean, my current boyfriend is my height.

• 53:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Current boyfriend, I'm obsessed. You know, it's like a whole thing.

• 53:54Speaker 00

  What?

• 53:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, saying that.

• 53:55Speaker 00

  Is it?

• 53:56Rayna Greenberg?

  It implies it's like not the last boyfriend.

• 53:58Speaker 00

  Oh, is it? No, I meant, I was just.

• 54:00Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I say current husband, it's a whole thing.

• 54:02Speaker 00

  Oh, really? Okay. I just meant in relation to the last one, because I dated a shorty and I didn't really. I don't, I don't really discriminate against that. Like, it doesn't matter to me, but like, I do like having someone my height, especially when kissing.

• 54:13Rayna Greenberg?

  But also, listen, I mean, it is crazy for me, because I'm five feet tall, that I want like a big man. You're six two. It makes sense. You want like a big person. But I like what I like, and I'm just gonna continue to like it.

• 54:23Speaker 00

  And I'm proud of you for the friendship that you have, that you would show her the ugly person that you hooked up with, because there's, there are, um.

• 54:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought you were gonna say.

• 54:33Speaker 00

  Like, I'm not telling nobody. It's not even a shame. It's just like, look, it happened, but I don't need to be showing you. I don't need you to have ammunition against me, you know?

• 54:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I actually, like, typically outkick my coverage. This is really, it's not, it's not often that I'm like, this guy was not cute, but I, he was cute to me.

• 54:50Speaker 00

  And that's.

• 54:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Which is all that matters. But I gave an ugly guy a chance, and he treated me terribly.

• 54:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  The thing, that's.

• 54:55Speaker 00

  I've had an ugly guy treat me like shit.

• 54:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  The shrekking, that was like the shrekking of this year. You might have talked about it on the bike.

• 55:00Speaker 00

  We talked a little bit. I know I talked about it with Ren.

• 55:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  People were saying, like, people are trying to date ugly people, so they'll treat them better. When they treat you badly, they, your whole world comes crashing down.

• 55:10Speaker 00

  That's devastating.

• 55:12Speaker 00

  Not only did you date someone ugly, they treated you like shit.

• 55:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Unreal.

• 55:15Speaker 00

  And they had an average dick. Wow. Just really missing here.

• 55:21Rayna Greenberg?

  This guy was broke and out of track.

• 55:23Speaker 00

  Oh, my god, and broke?

• 55:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't know this. I'm just not finding out he was broke.

• 55:27Speaker 00

  You're not loving yourself. We need to, we need to unpack this in therapy.

• 55:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I do. I love myself too much. It's obscene how much I, I think everything, nothing's ever my fault. I love myself. It's, I love.

• 55:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  You can't love Barmirena because she's like, that's true. That's of course you're in love with me.

• 55:39Rayna Greenberg?

  You fell in love with me after two dates. It makes total sense to me.

• 55:42Speaker 00

  Okay, okay. All right. There's a lot to unpack there.

• 55:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  While we're in the questions from our audience, okay, a lot of the same stuff came up. So people really want to know about the Disney tattoo.

• 55:51Speaker 00

  Oh, uh, I've had it for a long time. Originally, it kind of was just like, uh, what was it, the second tattoo I got?

• 55:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, and it's Mickey Mouse outline.

• 56:00Speaker 00

  It's a Mickey Mouse outline, and it's just like a reminder to be like youthful and fun and not take life so seriously. But then I also like became such a massive fan of like Walt Disney World afterwards because I go to the parks probably like once a year.

• 56:12Rayna Greenberg?

  You're a Disney adult.

• 56:13Speaker 00

  You know, I used to deny this, but now I'm just accepting it because everybody that digs on a Disney adult has never gone as an adult with their own money, eating and drinking whatever they want. No kids, with their friends, you're lit, you're turned up, and you're going on Guardians of the House, you're fucked up, all right? And there's nothing more fun than that, okay?

• 56:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I want to go back and do like the countries and drink.

• 56:35Speaker 00

  Epcot is so much fun.

• 56:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm an Epcot slut.

• 56:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, you should be.

• 56:38Rayna Greenberg?

  You want to hear a little kid? Yeah, but I love that part of it.

• 56:41Speaker 00

  She was actually underage drinking at Epcot when she was a child.

• 56:43Rayna Greenberg?

  As a five-year-old, yeah.

• 56:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I've, have you been to Disneyland?

• 56:47Speaker 00

  I have been to Disneyland since I was eight years old, but I've been to Disney World.

• 56:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Where'd you grow up?

• 56:51Speaker 00

  Born in LA, but grew up in North Carolina.

• 56:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I thought you were from the South, okay, but Disneyland, I didn't know, okay. Yeah, a lot of people asked about your tattoos. People really wanted to know.

• 57:00Speaker 00

  If you do go to Epcot, just know that like every drink needs to be a double because it's all just like full of sugar.

• 57:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, that's fair.

• 57:06Speaker 00

  And the drinks are not strong.

• 57:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I don't even, I'm like kind of out on just like cocktails in general. Like, can we just roll up somewhere and be like, can we have tequila?

• 57:13Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 57:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 57:14Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 57:15Rayna Greenberg?

  And like you're gonna have wine in France.

• 57:17Speaker 00

  I love wine. I do love wine.

• 57:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 57:19Speaker 00

  Especially because I went to Napa recently with my new boyfriend.

• 57:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I went to Napa too.

• 57:22Speaker 00

  I was like, I loved the little like, I love the tastings and there's, and I'm like trying to pick up on like how to like feel bougie with the wine. And I, I enjoyed it. I love it.

• 57:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I loved it. We went on a little mini moon.

• 57:34Speaker 00

  Oh, great.

• 57:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, my husband is not a wine guy, but even he was sipping on a buttery shard.

• 57:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, oh, no.

• 57:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was like, go off.

• 57:39Speaker 00

  No, you lost me there, baby. I hate, I hate Chardonnay. That's the one I don't touch, but love you for it. Okay, next question. Sorry, I keep. Distracting you.

• 57:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I want to talk about food and wine, actually, for a second.

• 57:48Speaker 00

  Okay, great, my favorite topic.

• 57:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, great, because I mean, your body is so sick and amazing, and you rolled in here with Lunchables.

• 57:54Speaker 00

  Thanks, mama.

• 57:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  You rolled in with fancy Lunchables.

• 57:57Speaker 00

  It was a prepackaged Boar's Head charcuterie, not sponsored. It was salami and I think like a white cheddar.

• 58:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, but are you, because like you work out for a living, do you have like a strict diet? Where do you like to go out to eat? Both questions, please.

• 58:09Speaker 00

  Listen, I, if you watch my classes or watch my social content, like I love to talk about food. So like food is just like for enjoyment and I never deprive myself of that. I kind of believe in seasonality. Right now is not a season to be like watching what I eat, to depriving myself. I'll probably kick, be a little bit more restrictive and focus going into the new year as we are. So that, you know, because the summer body is made in the winter.

• 58:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 58:37Speaker 00

  The winter, no, and like you just got to be a little bit, if you want to, I don't want to say you have to be. If you want a specific aesthetic, you got to just be a little bit more restrictive. But I, I love food. I love to go out to eat. I love Cheetos and cinnamon rolls and ice cream.

• 58:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I like the message that you can do both.

• 58:55Speaker 00

  You can do both.

• 58:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 58:57Speaker 00

  It's also like, what is your goal? Like if you just want to be strong and feel healthy and all that sort of stuff, yes, you need food that fuels you. But you also want something that tastes good and you can enjoy, like life is meant to enjoy. I also want to preface that like a lot of the people, not to get serious, this seems to be getting very serious. The people that we, I guess, look up to or some of the like very like crazy bodies. And I mean crazy in like, I guess, a good way, whatever. Like most of these people are doing something.

• 59:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  On Ozempic.

• 59:29Speaker 00

  Ozempic, hormones. Whatever, like some of these people that you like look on Instagram, you're like, oh my God, they look so good. You're like, they're not telling you the whole story.

• 59:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's good to remember.

• 59:39Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 59:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, I think we grew up in like supermodel era and we had no idea.

• 59:45Speaker 00

  No idea.

• 59:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  We were airbrushing, like we had no idea that what was going on. We were like, I guess that's a normal way we could look and you just can't.

• 59:52Speaker 00

  No, we were like, they were forcing a certain.

• 59:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like Christina Aguilera dirty video, I was like, I, I'm never eating again. Like I was in college, like what am I doing with my life?

• 1:00:01Speaker 00

  Yep, exactly.

• 1:00:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Full stomach, low rise jeans. Okay, have you ever slept with someone who came for a class? Like have you been looking out in the crowd and you're like, I fucking? Are you allowed to say?

• 1:00:11Speaker 00

  Oh, oh, you mean like not to, no, no. Once in a while, there'll be like a hot husband and I'm like, work, that's hot. But like, there's never like a gay, there's never like a gay in the audience that's like, yeah, I don't know, there's, there's.

• 1:00:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wow.

• 1:00:24Speaker 00

  One guy I went on a date with a long time ago that came to my class and I was like, okay, that's weird.

• 1:00:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I met my husband at, at a show. He came to our show. Like, I was wondering if you have like.

• 1:00:33Speaker 00

  You're asking, do I fuck fans?

• 1:00:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  With the fans, yeah, basically.

• 1:00:36Speaker 00

  Uh, maybe like not, not knowing it.

• 1:00:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  Do you know what I'm saying?

• 1:00:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, 100%.

• 1:00:42Speaker 00

  There's definitely been like times on Fire Island.

• 1:00:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 1:00:45Speaker 00

  Where they're like, oh, I've taken, oh, actually, there was one guy I had sex with on the beach in Fire Island. And he's like, my mom loves you. And I was like, well, tell her we had sex, you know, and, and he did.

• 1:00:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's unfair.

• 1:00:57Speaker 00

  It worked.

• 1:00:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I feel like you're so well-known to be like, hard not to fuck fans.

• 1:01:00Speaker 00

  Oh, wow, you know, I don't know, maybe, I don't know.

• 1:01:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, can we talk about your story a little bit?

• 1:01:07Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:01:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you wrote this book.

• 1:01:09Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 1:01:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it has a lot of your life's journey in it and we, for telling you before we recorded, you're just an inspirational person.

• 1:01:16Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:01:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just if you want to give us kind of like the short story of like, kind of how you grew up and how you ended up to where you are now.

• 1:01:22Speaker 00

  Well, let me, let me put the book title out there. Exo, Exo coding, opinionated homosexual's guide to self-love, relationships and tactful pettiness is the full title of the book. If you would like to purchase it, go off.

• 1:01:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 1:01:33Speaker 00

  A shameless plug. And then I always think of this, like, I'm a, weirdly enough, a Marvel fan. I love Marvel movies. So I think of this as my origin movie is what you're asking me, like the first movie. Yeah, I, listen, I, I grew up in, uh, well, I was born in LA. Me and my mom, single parent, moved across the country with our like three dogs and cats in an old Chrysler to North Carolina, where I moved, moved when I was eight. I lived in North Carolina from eight to 22. Uh, after I finished college, I got a degree in essentially fashion merchandising. I moved to New York City to work for like a startup, uh, streetwear brand. But like at the time, the streetwear brand was also owned by a choreographer. So I kind of studied under her, learning how to dance while doing that job.

• 1:02:15Speaker 00

  Then I started dancing professionally for about five years. I kind of got to a place where I was like, ugh, this is, I'm, I'm tired of being poor. I'm tired of like.

• 1:02:24Speaker 00

  Glorifying other people. So I was like, I shouted out, I said, God, Madonna, Allah, Buddha, someone like, answer my prayers and like, find me a new path. And then like, six months later, when I was working at The Box here in New York City, the Lower Side.

• 1:02:40Rayna Greenberg?

  What were you doing at The Box?

• 1:02:41Speaker 00

  So I, I was not in the show. I essentially was front of the house and you know how they have a burlesque show there. I had to stop patrons from taking photos of the topless women and the very salacious acts that were happening there.

• 1:02:55Rayna Greenberg?

  The double sided dildo show.

• 1:02:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 1:02:58Rayna Greenberg?

  You should lock phones up.

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It was before they had those pouches, you know.

• 1:03:04Rayna Greenberg?

  The underpouchers comedy.

• 1:03:05Speaker 00

  You know the pouches I'm talking about.

• 1:03:06Rayna Greenberg?

  The underbuds.

• 1:03:08Speaker 00

  So I just stopped people from taking pictures. And then the choreographer of that show knew I was a dancer and he had a connection, someone he went to college with, worked at Peloton. I was like, hey, do you know any performers? And so he sent me the email. I sent my headshot and resume, went in for an interview, got the job.

• 1:03:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh my god.

• 1:03:23Speaker 00

  Started training. 10 years later, here we are. Almost 11, actually 11.

• 1:03:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like I have so many questions.

• 1:03:29Speaker 00

  11 years later. And then like, yeah, I was like, you know, Peloton was really great because I kind of was a fish out of water. I didn't know what I was doing and I had to figure it out. But it also gave me a lot of purpose. I really feel like my purpose is bringing more people into the fitness space by taking away the, I feel like the biggest barrier to entry when it comes to fitness is fear. People are afraid they don't know what they're doing. They're gonna look stupid. People are gonna make fun of them. And I'm like, listen, sweeties, sit on the bike. I'm gonna be a little clown. I'm gonna make fun of myself. I'm gonna say stupid shit and make this not as serious and deep as it needs to be. And you're gonna feel comfortable creating a fitness routine. So it really allowed me to find like, my purpose, you know?

• 1:04:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Is it true that you never taught a spin class?

• 1:04:15Speaker 00

  Never.

• 1:04:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Like cycling at all?

• 1:04:17Speaker 00

  Nope.

• 1:04:17Rayna Greenberg?

  And you just were like, I'm gonna fake it till I make it or I just knew I'm gonna kill this?

• 1:04:21Speaker 00

  It was a lot of faking until you make it. I also just was like, very, I mean, timing is like, just so important in life. And luckily for me, I just was at the right place at the right time. Much as I like have worked hard for what I have, I think that success is like luck plus hard work.

• 1:04:39Rayna Greenberg?

  We feel like that too.

• 1:04:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, it's just true. Like, you can be very talented, but i- if the right opportunity doesn't come, you're not going to get the success. Also, the same thing, if you, if the right opportunity comes and you're not prepared and you're not ready for it, it's going to pass you by.

• 1:04:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm glad you said that, and I think it's important to acknowledge that some of it is luck. Do you listen to the show How I Built This?

• 1:04:59Speaker 00

  I've seen a few, a few episodes, yeah.

• 1:05:01Rayna Greenberg?

  He interviews like big founders and people that have built a lot of stuff, and he ends every episode with like, how much was luck and how much was hard work?

• 1:05:06Speaker 00

  Oh, really?

• 1:05:07Rayna Greenberg?

  So I think it's important to like acknowledge both.

• 1:05:09Speaker 00

  No, I, I think a lot of like, it was just luck, but I, I built the skills as a dancer and just like someone who lives in New York to like, find who I was. But I think my point was, I got in at a very early stage. So I had a lot of room to figure it out, to mimic other people, to absorb things, to try something and let it fail and re- reapply it. And I think that, that, I think I started in two thousand fourteen or fifteen?

• 1:05:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:35Speaker 00

  So I had like four, five years before the pandemic, and I was able to like really figure out who I was. And it was like, oh, humor, being silly, being dumb, like that's what people are resonating with. And then, once the pandemic hit, it was like, people were hooked.

• 1:05:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, that's when I found you.

• 1:05:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I, I had never worked out before the pandemic. And remember, I had, I bought a Nordic track bike?

• 1:05:58Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:05:59Rayna Greenberg?

  And I would be, to begin, remember, people couldn't get Peloton.

• 1:06:02Speaker 00

  I know, I know.

• 1:06:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Remember, and so I bought this Nordic track, because I was like, I want to cycle, and I would put you on my television. And I would watch you.

• 1:06:09Speaker 00

  See, you made it work.

• 1:06:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I would watch you and do, but now I have a Peloton. But yeah, I made it work for the time being. But it sounds like you also, did you kind of like stumble into dancing too? Like, you were not like a lifelong dancer? And at twenty-two, you started?

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  You know, I always loved dancing. Like, I would watch like T R L, like Brittany and NSYNC, and like, that would be like, my day after school in middle school. So that's where I had this affinity for dance. I would just like learn it from the TV. And we were just, it was just me and my mom, and she was, we were broke, brokeety-broke, broke-broke. And I always wanted to take dance classes, but it just wasn't in the budget. So, once I got to college. I found out about Broadway Dance Center's internship program. So I came here, I came here in New York City for the summer between freshman year and sophomore year and just like took a bunch of dance classes. And that kind of got me on the path of like learning that industry.

• 1:06:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you said that Peloton was looking for performers is like is the way they find instructors is it kind of like half fitness, half like performer type people?

• 1:07:04Speaker 00

  I mean, yeah, I mean, definitely like shifted. It's it's definitely shifted to more of like a fitness.

• 1:07:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I like that.

• 1:07:11Speaker 00

  No, of course.

• 1:07:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Personality is important.

• 1:07:13Speaker 00

  Listen, there's a lot of, I'll even say this about myself. I'm not the best trainer in the world. I'm not the most knowledgeable. I'm just the funniest. Like, you know, and like, that's okay. Like, I know that, but there's a lot of my, but there's a lot of my colleagues who are like so knowledgeable, know their shit, like. And they're fantastic. So it's kind of this, I don't know, it's kind of like, what do you want? Do you want someone that's entertaining? Or do you want someone that like, do you want someone who's more entertaining or more knows their stuff? Or more inspirational or whatever. It's kind of like you get to pick what your fantasy is. Like my favorite instructor at Peloton is Olivia Mato, because like, the workout's great. She doesn't talk that much and like the music, her music hits. You know, like, I would never want to take my class. I'd be like, can you shut the fuck up, please?

• 1:07:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's like, but you're an entertainer.

• 1:07:59Rayna Greenberg?

  You need something different every workout.

• 1:08:01Speaker 00

  I just want someone to tell me what to do. I don't need the entertainment. So I would literally hate my class.

• 1:08:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who are you close with? And we know you love everybody in Falla, but like, who are your besties at Peloton?

• 1:08:11Speaker 00

  Uh, I mean, Tune Day is definitely like up there and we have had her on the show. We love Tune Day.

• 1:08:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  We love her.

• 1:08:15Speaker 00

  The thing about Tune Day is like, I don't know, there's a little bit of, I feel like a little bit of a dad with her and there's a sense of pride because I specifically like sought her out, casted her, like auditioned her, re-auditioned her. Advocated for her when like people were saying that she wasn't the right fit for the job. Like, there's a whole journey there. So to see her success, I feel very proud of that. And I'm proud to be a part of it. So there's that. But she's also just like a fun.

• 1:08:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's, she's so inspirational.

• 1:08:45Speaker 00

  She's like, I know, but y'all don't know the silly and like crazy part of Tune Day.

• 1:08:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Beyonce and do, like, I can tell.

• 1:08:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No, she's a fun girl. Sometimes I like, I don't know if she's like a little bit more guarded with that, but like, she's so fun and silly and like, we would probably get in trouble if our text messages leaked, but.

• 1:09:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't even, I shudder to think.

• 1:09:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I would much rather have my nudes leaked than that leaked. Okay?

• 1:09:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's not even.

• 1:09:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Red eagle, I'm a cavity search.

• 1:09:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Here's my forty two year old pussy.

• 1:09:14Speaker 00

  There we go.

• 1:09:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  See what I'm telling Rayna when I rant.

• 1:09:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we're, we're very close. It's interesting to see like the journey. I've known a lot of instructors for a real long time, over a decade. But our lives have become so different that like, we just don't cross paths as much as we used to, if that makes sense.

• 1:09:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Especially people are parents.

• 1:09:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean.

• 1:09:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Their lives are.

• 1:09:35Speaker 00

  I think also someone of my favorite person is Jen Sherman, who's, you know, uh, the first Peloton instructor. She's also like.

• 1:09:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 1:09:41Rayna Greenberg?

  The very first.

• 1:09:42Speaker 00

  The very first. And she's almost like a mom to me. Like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna age drop her right now, because maybe she'd slap me in the face. But she's always just someone that I've like leaned on and talked to, talked to about life in general. And even, I hadn't talked to her in probably like six months, like on the phone. We usually have catch-ups and I just had to catch up with her like two weeks ago. So that was very nice and just filling her in on life. Of course, she also, like your listeners, wanted to know about new boyfriend.

• 1:10:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  People wanted to know.

• 1:10:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Everybody wants to know.

• 1:10:10Speaker 00

  Everyone wants to know. Why is everyone so into like love? You know what I'm saying?

• 1:10:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  People are obsessed.

• 1:10:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Because it's the most relatable thing you could ever do.

• 1:10:17Speaker 00

  I know, but my boyfriend was saying the same thing. Like, he, we were walking to a date and he goes, "God, everybody's obsessed with like love." And I was like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "The minute I like had dinner with a friend, the first thing they asked was like, 'Oh, so you're dating and blah, blah, blah.'" And I'm like, "Yeah, I don't know, like, and I'm not someone who gushes."

• 1:10:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:37Speaker 00

  And neither's he, where it's like, "Oh, my God, yes." You're like, I don't know, I, I keep it a little bit closer to my chest.

• 1:10:43Rayna Greenberg?

  It's the thing we all relate to. It's the thing that everybody has a touch point for and advice and all that.

• 1:10:48Speaker 00

  Fire to have.

• 1:10:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, it's, we joke about this all the time. It's like, I'll never accomplish something that will give me the type of praise and engagement as my wedding, you know, like, I filmed a comedy special, like that won't even come close.

• 1:11:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you know, I didn't mean to tell you this, I was gonna tell you another, but I, I launched a tour, this is gonna be a couple of weeks ago at this point, but I launched a tour yesterday. The Post will never get the type of engagement that my outfits from Ashley's wedding post got. I, it's.

• 1:11:17Speaker 00

  So next time you do an announcement, you need to make sure.

• 1:11:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Stand next to Ashley.

• 1:11:20Speaker 00

  Well, you know, just like move it a little bit closer to the wedding. Let it be about you. To be honest, you should have made her wedding about your tour.

• 1:11:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, no, she headlined the wedding. She officiated. She did a whole set.

• 1:11:30Speaker 00

  So it was about her.

• 1:11:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was about her.

• 1:11:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, thank God.

• 1:11:32Rayna Greenberg?

  But this post that I'm talking about, it was like a roundup of me and Ashley and her husband. And like, it has 40,000 likes. My tour poster, 15, 20.

• 1:11:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's gotta be more comments on the tour poster.

• 1:11:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Same amount of comments right now.

• 1:11:45Speaker 00

  Wait, is this your first marriage?

• 1:11:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:48Speaker 00

  Okay, great.

• 1:11:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hopefully last.

• 1:11:49Speaker 00

  And when did you get married?

• 1:11:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  On November 1st.

• 1:11:51Speaker 00

  Oh, so very recently. I love that. And you waited till 40? Love that.

• 1:11:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Geriatric bride.

• 1:11:59Speaker 00

  No, that's a pregnancy, you know? All my girlfriends that have gotten pregnant have been past like 33 or something, and that's a geriatric pregnancy.

• 1:12:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, but I do a whole bit. Like, it's geriatric bride. Like, I'm at risk.

• 1:12:08Speaker 00

  You lived your life.

• 1:12:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying. It's perfect. I wouldn't have it any other way.

• 1:12:11Speaker 00

  Most people our age, they're already on their second marriage. Do you know what I'm saying? You got all the frogs out of the way, and you found your prince.

• 1:12:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, 100%. I wouldn't have it any other way. We built this thriving career. Like, I know who I am.

• 1:12:25Speaker 00

  I would agree. Word of advice my mom always said, like, don't get married or have kids before 30. And here I am at 38, so.

• 1:12:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you want to get married?

• 1:12:32Speaker 00

  Marriage, yes. I want to get married. That's important to me, but there's no rush. I hate this, uh, the straights, unfortunately. Sorry.

• 1:12:39Rayna Greenberg?

  No, tell us. Tell us what we do.

• 1:12:40Speaker 00

  They have this obsession with being married to a point where it's more about the day and the Instagram post than it is actually about the love and the relationship and the building of it. Like, people get so obsessed with, like, making the day perfect, and I'm like, let it be imperfect, you know? Like, let it have its own little intricacies and stories and all this sort of stuff, and let it be more about the celebration of the relationship than it is, like, the day. So that's my take.

• 1:13:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, people rushing to the altar with the wrong person just to get married, did you, do you know you have to spend forever?

• 1:13:11Speaker 00

  Forever.

• 1:13:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Every day?

• 1:13:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Every day, like I love my husband so much, I love being around him, but I'm like, we are really together all the time. What if someone is annoying?

• 1:13:22Speaker 00

  They most of the time.

• 1:13:23Rayna Greenberg?

  People are.

• 1:13:23Speaker 00

  No, most of the people are, and your, your partner is going to annoy the fuck out of you at some point that you're like.

• 1:13:29Rayna Greenberg?

  They're just around all the time.

• 1:13:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then I go downstairs with the bell.

• 1:13:30Speaker 00

  They are, I mean, wait, what does my boyfriend ask me? I was like, are you, he's like, are you sick of me yet? Like, when he does something annoying, I'm like, you're getting close, you're getting close.

• 1:13:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, I'm single, and sometimes I really have these moments where I'm like, do I really want to be in a relationship? No one bothers me ever. I would like to have.

• 1:13:47Speaker 00

  So you're an avoidant?

• 1:13:48Rayna Greenberg?

  You know what's really?

• 1:13:49Speaker 00

  Do you know attachment theory?

• 1:13:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, yeah, please.

• 1:13:51Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:13:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I was telling someone the other day, I think everybody that's dated me has experienced me differently. I think some people really experience me as pretty avoidant, and I think there's some people that experience me as being very like anxiously attached. I think that we show up as different people in every relationship. I think we're reacting to the other person.

• 1:14:07Speaker 00

  I would agree.

• 1:14:08Rayna Greenberg?

  What are you?

• 1:14:09Speaker 00

  I'm definitely anxious.

• 1:14:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 1:14:11Speaker 00

  But like, the guy I dated before, the guy I'm dating now, I was definitely more avoidant. Where like, certain things would get on my nerves, I was starting to feel like anxiety about like getting close to them, like. Whereas like, most of my other relationships, I'm the one like chasing, you know?

• 1:14:26Rayna Greenberg?

  But I think that's comforting to hear. I think that like, when you meet the person that makes you feel at home, at like a level of just comfort, like that's your person. The person that doesn't spike those levels.

• 1:14:36Speaker 00

  Yes, and.

• 1:14:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 1:14:39Speaker 00

  I think it's built more so on the work that you've done on yourself.

• 1:14:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Sure.

• 1:14:43Speaker 00

  Like, you've gotta figure out your own traumas and know how to regulate yourself, because, wow, we're getting deep, aren't we?

• 1:14:49Rayna Greenberg?

  We are.

• 1:14:49Speaker 00

  I always, I always like, I prescribe to this thing that's like, the relationship that you have with your partner is going to be the one that parallels the relationship that you've had with your parents. A lot of how you move through relationships is built on the foundation of how your parents raised you and what they did and did not give you. I always feel like the trauma that we get from our parents is not our fault, but it is our responsibility to take care of so that we're not putting it into the next relationship or kids, if you have them, whatever that is.

• 1:15:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, we've said that on this podcast.

• 1:15:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Your, your trauma is not your fault, but it's your responsibility.

• 1:15:23Speaker 00

  Responsibility, figure it out, like, stop, stop holding on to it, you know?

• 1:15:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you grew up with a single mom, and it sounds like it was just the two of you, I'm sure she worked really hard to give you all she could and all that kind of stuff, and?

• 1:15:33Speaker 00

  Uh, ye- yes, and she also like dealt with addiction, so there was kind of times in my life as a kid where I felt like she wasn't. Doing her best, if that makes sense. So I had to like heal from that and like process it and let it go. And now we're in a like great place. Like I love my mom, I moved my mom here in 2019.

• 1:15:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, she's here.

• 1:15:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, she lives like four blocks away from me.

• 1:15:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:15:57Speaker 00

  And we have a lot of fun now, you know, I feel like I let a lot of that go. We went on like a holiday date to a Christmas bar recently and like got her ass drunk and took her shopping and it was so much fun.

• 1:16:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's so fun.

• 1:16:08Speaker 00

  No, it was so fun.

• 1:16:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think this is inspiring and we talked about being estranged from family members like a week ago. And I think it's inspiring to know that life is long and you can repair relationships.

• 1:16:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, it's all, it's all what you want. Like if you don't want those people in your life, you also can not have them in your life.

• 1:16:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what we said.

• 1:16:24Speaker 00

  But for me, I was like, I love my mom regardless of the ups and downs. And I know that my time with her is limited. So do I want to like feel resentment? Or do I want to like let that go and enjoy what I have left of her presence on this earth, you know?

• 1:16:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love that message. Okay, you said something that stuck out to me. You said that you're usually chasing people, which I cannot picture. You seem like, I don't know, your vibe is very like people have to work for it with you.

• 1:16:49Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:16:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I mean that as a compliment.

• 1:16:51Speaker 00

  No, no, but I don't think like you don't, you don't have to like work for, I don't think you have to work for it with me.

• 1:16:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  I really said as a compliment, people say that about me.

• 1:16:57Speaker 00

  Do they? You have to work for it with you?

• 1:17:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like people say like to be close to me, you got to work for it a little bit. I don't give it all.

• 1:17:05Speaker 00

  Oh, see, I think I'm the, I am the opposite.

• 1:17:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Really? Okay.

• 1:17:07Speaker 00

  I think when I am really into somebody, I think that anxious attachment comes. And so like the chasing comes with like, if I feel any sort of distance, then I'm like trying to repair that very quickly. But I think whether it's friendships or relationships, I give someone the trust or like a clean slate from the jump. And then like, if you do things bad, then that's starting to like weigh on, weigh on me. But no, I don't, I don't love like games with friendship or.

• 1:17:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not even games, it's not playing hard to get, you just seem a little hard to get like by nature.

• 1:17:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:17:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  You just, I don't, what, do you know what I'm saying?

• 1:17:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, because I'm the opposite. I'm not hard to get.

• 1:17:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:17:46Rayna Greenberg?

  And I have struggled with that, like letting people in a little too quickly. And I had to like actively be like, let's take a beat.

• 1:17:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, definitely take a beat.

• 1:17:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Interview this person a little bit before we give them the keys to the kingdom.

• 1:17:57Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 1:17:58Rayna Greenberg?

  You know?

• 1:17:58Speaker 00

  I would agree.

• 1:17:59Rayna Greenberg?

  And I think she's talking about like with friendships as like a partner, she's really, I mean, as a friend, you're also really warm and wonderful, but I think you've always said that.

• 1:18:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just don't give it all away. I'm not withholding on purpose.

• 1:18:09Speaker 00

  You make people earn it.

• 1:18:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm not even trying to. I just think it takes a minute for me to really warm up, I guess. I'm not so warm immediately, Raina is, and she's like more physically affectionate and she just kinda,

• 1:18:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm always all over everybody.

• 1:18:22Speaker 00

  I love that, like being affectionate even with friends. I feel like we don't do it enough.

• 1:18:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I do a constant. I will look over, she's hanging on somebody, I'm like, could I make?

• 1:18:33Speaker 00

  I think that's great. I think that's great. Like, I don't know, I love to like hug up on my friends.

• 1:18:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, but I think I've just, it hasn't been like a pervasive problem in my life, but I have let people in a little sooner than maybe other people would. And I'm like, you know, you're just learning lessons all the time.

• 1:18:47Speaker 00

  Always learning lessons.

• 1:18:48Rayna Greenberg?

  There's a whiteboard about everybody and we're just putting information up on the board.

• 1:18:51Speaker 00

  Yep, yep, yep.

• 1:18:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so.

• 1:18:53Speaker 00

  By the way, I'm obsessed with both of your nails.

• 1:18:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank you. Thank you for saying that to her.

• 1:18:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thank you.

• 1:18:58Speaker 00

  Why? Is she not feeling it?

• 1:18:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just have had some regret, yeah.

• 1:19:00Speaker 00

  You had some regret? I like this gold. It's good.

• 1:19:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  That means the world, Cody.

• 1:19:03Speaker 00

  Perfect for the holidays, great for New Year's.

• 1:19:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thank you so much.

• 1:19:06Speaker 00

  You know?

• 1:19:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because it's been a journey, you know?

• 1:19:09Speaker 00

  Has it? I don't know how you guys like.

• 1:19:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Chrome is for me.

• 1:19:11Speaker 00

  I love getting a manicure, well, actually, no, I don't love getting a manicure, but I feel like I need them all the time because I bite my nails. But I hadn't gotten one for like six months and even just the hour of a normal ass like manicure, pedicure was like too much for me. So I don't know how y'all do it with the gel and the things and the, it's a lot.

• 1:19:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  My girl comes to my house for two years now.

• 1:19:30Speaker 00

  Even that.

• 1:19:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like we're friends and I'm not doing other stuff, but if I have to, I'm in the home. You know, at least I'm cutting out the travel time.

• 1:19:36Speaker 00

  Although that might be worth the premium of having someone come to the house.

• 1:19:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and it's not even that much. I mean.

• 1:19:41Speaker 00

  Great, noted. Okay, I need to find someone that comes to the house.

• 1:19:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we're, I mean, Holy Ad and I, like I've been with her longer than my husband.

• 1:19:47Speaker 00

  But you don't get the chair that like massages you.

• 1:19:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I got a person that massages me while I'm there.

• 1:19:52Speaker 00

  Oh, okay, pop off.

• 1:19:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Foot massage.

• 1:19:54Speaker 00

  Pop off.

• 1:19:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I love it.

• 1:19:56Speaker 00

  Wait, what were we even talking about?

• 1:19:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 1:19:57Speaker 00

  I distracted you with the nail, sorry.

• 1:19:59Rayna Greenberg?

  No, no. So this is our first episode of the new year and we asked our listeners what their resolutions were.

• 1:20:03Speaker 00

  Oh, right.

• 1:20:04Rayna Greenberg?

  And we said be funny or be serious, whatever you want.

• 1:20:06Speaker 00

  Either way.

• 1:20:07Rayna Greenberg?

  And we divided them up, funny and more serious, and we thought we would just get your takes.

• 1:20:11Speaker 00

  Okay, great.

• 1:20:12Rayna Greenberg?

  People love your advice.

• 1:20:13Speaker 00

  Okay, great.

• 1:20:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Can I tell you guys what came up over and over and over again?

• 1:20:16Speaker 00

  Please.

• 1:20:16Rayna Greenberg?

  In terms of this is our resolution.

• 1:20:18Speaker 00

  Fucking ugly guys?

• 1:20:19Rayna Greenberg?

  That's actually did not come up that much.

• 1:20:20Speaker 00

  That didn't come up, okay, got it.

• 1:20:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I want to moisturize more. I want to use lotion more.

• 1:20:25Speaker 00

  Then, bitch, buy some lotion and put it on.

• 1:20:28Rayna Greenberg?

  This came up a lot. Just, that's not.

• 1:20:32Speaker 00

  To be fair, I guess, for these people. How often do you do like a full shower, though, where you're putting on lotion every day? Do you put on lotion every day?

• 1:20:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I have to put on lotion after every shower, I have dry skin. Yep. You don't?

• 1:20:46Speaker 00

  No, no, no. And my skin has been feeling a little bit dry, but sometimes at the end of the night, where I'm like, I'm gonna take the shower, like, the extra step of the lotion, I'm just like, oh, I don't want to.

• 1:20:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Your body's so tall.

• 1:20:57Speaker 00

  But, I know. But my knees be getting ashy, so I can't be having that. Like, my knees be getting ashy and I just like gotta, gotta get there.

• 1:21:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Elbow, I need, I need to do my elbow.

• 1:21:05Speaker 00

  But like, all you have to do is just get the moist.

• 1:21:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I have a hot, I do have a tip, I have a tip for it.

• 1:21:10Speaker 00

  Oh, please.

• 1:21:10Rayna Greenberg?

  So, get like a cool lotion dispenser. Like, they have like pretty ones on Amazon, and so you can like feel like a fun thing, like.

• 1:21:17Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:21:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I have this like spinny thing on my counter and has all my lotions in it. And like, it's just, it's a fun little thing for me at the end of the day.

• 1:21:24Speaker 00

  Oh, see, mine would be like, find the one that you like. I think, I think the body lotion I have is from Costa Brazil and it smells like, I don't know, like Palo Santo.

• 1:21:34Rayna Greenberg?

  The Brazilian bum bum cream.

• 1:21:35Speaker 00

  Oh, that one's good too, but that's.

• 1:21:36Rayna Greenberg?

  That's so good.

• 1:21:37Speaker 00

  That one I used to use a lot, but I don't use that one anymore, but this one smells like.

• 1:21:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you have a bad memory about it?

• 1:21:40Speaker 00

  No, no, no, I kind of just.

• 1:21:42Rayna Greenberg?

  It's very potent.

• 1:21:44Speaker 00

  No, no, I've, I've been to Brazil nine times, 10 times. I've been many, many times.

• 1:21:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you go for New Year's?

• 1:21:49Speaker 00

  I have a lot before, but now I started to go for Carnival, which I'm going for in February.

• 1:21:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Fine.

• 1:21:54Speaker 00

  But the smell of that is so specifically Brazil, so like, I love the smell of it. The only thing I didn't like about that cream was it felt a little sticky after applying it, so I didn't love it. That was my thing, but I love the smell of it.

• 1:22:08Rayna Greenberg?

  The smell is so good. I use Necessaire and I use the unscented and I have it on my auto shipment. Oh, yeah.

• 1:22:15Speaker 00

  I don't trust auto shipment. Because like, how do you know? How do you know when it's?

• 1:22:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  They know when I'm out.

• 1:22:21Rayna Greenberg?

  For lotion, that's hard.

• 1:22:23Speaker 00

  I don't like having a stockpile of things. I have a s-

• 1:22:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  It hits right when I need it.

• 1:22:27Speaker 00

  I don't have enough storage in my apartment.

• 1:22:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 1:22:30Speaker 00

  So that when it's taking up things.

• 1:22:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Have you talked about this?

• 1:22:33Speaker 00

  No, what?

• 1:22:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm having like a deja vu moment about you. Have you talked about this on the bike?

• 1:22:38Speaker 00

  Maybe I probably have. I don't know.

• 1:22:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I remember like a funny take about New York City. You can't do auto ship.

• 1:22:43Speaker 00

  You can't do auto, like, I can't do it because if it comes too frequently, I haven't used it. I don't want to stockpile on it.

• 1:22:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Even for pills, okay, so when-

• 1:22:51Speaker 00

  What kind of pills?

• 1:22:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  What pill?

• 1:22:54Speaker 00

  What pills? And why are you taking so many pills?

• 1:22:57Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm on blood control, blood pressure control.

• 1:22:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not the blood control.

• 1:23:00Rayna Greenberg?

  But they should know when I'm out of it and they're always sending it like 15 days.

• 1:23:04Speaker 00

  Don't worry, don't worry, AI, Amazon, the robots are gonna know when you're out of things.

• 1:23:09Rayna Greenberg?

  When I need it.

• 1:23:09Speaker 00

  To make it more efficient. It's coming. Don't worry.

• 1:23:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I want to move on to something. These came up back to back. One person said I want to try anal and someone else said I want to try, do less anal.

• 1:23:22Rayna Greenberg?

  How much anal are you doing?

• 1:23:24Speaker 00

  So they're gonna meet, they're gonna meet in the middle.

• 1:23:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Rena, you need to respond back to do less anal, girl.

• 1:23:29Speaker 00

  Okay, let's, let's approach do more anal. I'm doing a lot of anal because that's how I have sex, okay? But anybody that's doing more anal, I need you to research how to clean out, okay?

• 1:23:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 1:23:43Speaker 00

  That's just real.

• 1:23:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just to Google, okay?

• 1:23:45Speaker 00

  Just, I don't know, yeah, Google, you know, because you wanna, you wanna make sure that you're fresh down there.

• 1:23:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally, okay. Clean that bomb.

• 1:23:53Speaker 00

  Have lube. I suggest silicone lube.

• 1:23:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Mm-hmm, yeah.

• 1:23:56Speaker 00

  I don't love water-based lube.

• 1:23:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Gets absorbed too fast, yeah.

• 1:23:59Speaker 00

  It's just not, it's, it's sticky. Actually, it's, water-based lube is much more sticky.

• 1:24:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Silicone is great for the butt.

• 1:24:05Speaker 00

  I would agree.

• 1:24:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:06Speaker 00

  I would agree. For the person that wants to do less anal.

• 1:24:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, how much are you doing?

• 1:24:11Speaker 00

  How, what?

• 1:24:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm gonna find out. Just do less. You can respond back in the question box.

• 1:24:15Speaker 00

  Maybe they're not trying to get pregnant or something. Maybe that's the problem.

• 1:24:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're gonna die. So we had our show Saturday night and we go around and ask people the best part of their year.

• 1:24:23Speaker 00

  Uh-huh.

• 1:24:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  And just to keep the spirits up and she said, I did anal. You know, for the first time, we were like, woo. And she was like, but I have never had regular sex. She was just like saving herself. And we were like, so you're still like a virgin in the puss.

• 1:24:36Speaker 00

  What in the, what in the like Mormon technicalities?

• 1:24:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly, that's what we said. We asked her, you Mormon?

• 1:24:41Speaker 00

  Was she?

• 1:24:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  She just was religious. She said, she was saving herself.

• 1:24:45Speaker 00

  Tell me that like, God was like, well, you know, you put it in your butt, so it's, it's, you're actually still a virgin.

• 1:24:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also, no oral. She said she, I was like, you started with anal. And we were like, why? And she was like, I just really liked him.

• 1:24:59Speaker 00

  This guy, this guy that she's dating was just like, I, how can I trick this bitch into fucking her? And she's not gonna suck my dick. She's waiting till marriage. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go for the anal option. Okay?

• 1:25:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Insane. Like, did they meet at church?

• 1:25:14Speaker 00

  Probably.

• 1:25:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Cody, people wanna be more petty. Yeah, be meaner came up a lot.

• 1:25:19Speaker 00

  Be meaner?

• 1:25:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  More petty. Be meaner came up. But I wanna, we wanna talk about being petty. Because you have a podcast.

• 1:25:25Speaker 00

  Tactful pettiness with my friend Andrew Chappelle.

• 1:25:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you really have the perfect line of pettiness, I think. And what I, the content that I've seen and that your classes.

• 1:25:35Speaker 00

  Thank you, thank you.

• 1:25:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  My whole thing is don't start no shit, won't be no shit. Like, I don't go after people. But if you come at me. You will not like what happens. I'm just responding. So is that kinda your mantra?

• 1:25:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, one of my favorite tactfully petty things was that girl on Facebook. Some man wrote a racist comment on her Facebook post. This hoe drove three hours to confront this man. She prepared him apology to read on, off camera. So he had to read it off camera. And she said, if you don't read this, I'm gonna show your wife the Grindr profile that I found him.

• 1:26:12Speaker 00

  And when I tell you that that man read that apology with quickness and, and heart and sincerity. He did. He did. That's what I'm saying, like, don't.

• 1:26:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  But how do you, she, did she still talk about the Grindr? How do you know this?

• 1:26:25Speaker 00

  It's all on, it's all on TikTok. Oh, it is? It's all on the internet. You can find it on the internet. That's, that is tactful pettiness.

• 1:26:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. I mean, but it's, it's worth it. Like, I would never drive three hours. What else are you doing? Like, this is a, a, a story for your life.

• 1:26:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, that is worth driving three hours for. Just, just for that. Absolutely.

• 1:26:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you have any other tips about pettiness?

• 1:26:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, you have to know thyself, you know, you have to know thyself and be confident with thyself. Because if someone tries to like come for you, you gotta know how to, you have to, even if the read is true, even if the thing that they're saying is true, you have to be able to own that so it doesn't get to you. Do you know what I'm saying?

• 1:27:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I have been like using ChatGPT to like run some stuff through it. This morning I ran something through it. I was responding to this guy. It was, I like once scorched earth on this text message. Even ChatGPT was like, oh, maybe reel it in, but the advice.

• 1:27:17Speaker 00

  ChatGPT said, that's a little too petty, babe.

• 1:27:19Rayna Greenberg?

  It said, I'm glad you asked me first.

• 1:27:21Speaker 00

  I'm glad you asked me first, wow.

• 1:27:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Hey, girl, I mean, it also said like, you know, just reel it in, like you don't need to like relitigate the situation with somebody. Like, take your power back by doing a little bit less here.

• 1:27:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, you could go scorched earth with people and I think that's fun sometimes.

• 1:27:39Speaker 00

  I think it needs to be like, it needs to be subtle and cunty, do you know what I'm saying?

• 1:27:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I was not subtle.

• 1:27:44Speaker 00

  You also don't want the other person to know that they got to you.

• 1:27:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, that's the thing. And also pick your battles. I mean, it's just, I don't know, you seem so beloved. I don't know if you have a lot of haters. I mean, so rarely do I respond to something or do something. But when I do it, it's worth it. Like, but I can't, I have to suffer all of my back. I can't go through life.

• 1:28:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, but you're talking about strangers. Like when somebody does something to you, you're a straight shooter.

• 1:28:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:08Rayna Greenberg?

  You will respond quickly. You are honest. You're never trying to exactly.

• 1:28:12Speaker 00

  Okay, like point case, like someone, someone wrote on a post recently was like, I just took your class and the playlist was horrible. Do better with the, like, you need to play better music. I said, and I literally clapped back, sort of, and I said, ma'am, you can click view playlist to see if you like the song before you click the playlist. So if you don't like the playlist, then go choose another class.

• 1:28:36Rayna Greenberg?

  A hundred thousand other classes.

• 1:28:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. And also just, this enrages me because musical taste is subjective.

• 1:28:43Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 1:28:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, you have bad taste, ma'am.

• 1:28:46Speaker 00

  Yes. Sometimes, you know, once in a while, I don't put my full pussy into a playlist and therefore it's not like my best and sometimes. It's rushed, but I know.

• 1:28:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, was that one of them though?

• 1:28:56Speaker 00

  I don't know. I didn't go back.

• 1:28:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause you know when sometimes you're like, you're right.

• 1:28:59Speaker 00

  I'm not, I'm not that invested to go then search for the class and look, cause they did put the date. But I was just like, I don't have enough time. So I'm gonna be.

• 1:29:08Rayna Greenberg?

  But this sounds like her fault. Like this is the one time where I'm like this, she could read the playlist. This was her fault.

• 1:29:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you imagine not viewing a playlist?

• 1:29:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:15Rayna Greenberg?

  That's the only reason I take the classes. That's crazy. Okay. I have one that none of us are gonna relate to, but somebody's goal was to talk less.

• 1:29:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Why? Are they getting in trouble at school?

• 1:29:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Sometimes, you know, I guess, you know, remember when I quit drinking for that like two months? I was like, I'm, I'd just be saying too much stuff.

• 1:29:32Speaker 00

  There are people though, that talk and they're not funny or it's not intentional and like, nobody actually wants to hear them. So if you don't think you're actually funny, then maybe you should stop talking a bit. Like, I would agree with that. You know, you know, you know what will, will stop them? Go and have a conversation and just secretly record, voice record yourself and then go listen to that. Because nobody likes listening to their voice for the first time.

• 1:30:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:01Speaker 00

  Do you know what I'm saying?

• 1:30:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:02Speaker 00

  We're so used to it. Cause like, you're creating content. You had to get over that. Like, oh, I sound like that?

• 1:30:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:07Speaker 00

  If they wanna talk less, record themselves and listen and they'll be like, I hate my voice. And so therefore they'll be self-conscious. Yeah.

• 1:30:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love this.

• 1:30:14Speaker 00

  You know?

• 1:30:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Baptism by fire.

• 1:30:15Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:30:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought you were gonna say record yourself, cause you'll realize like nothing you say is interesting.

• 1:30:20Speaker 00

  That too.

• 1:30:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Start a podcast. Start a solo podcast.

• 1:30:23Speaker 00

  Start a solo podcast. Figure it out, babe.

• 1:30:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  You could do a solo. We, we talk about this a lot. It's such an art form that could, we could never do. And it's like, we have so much respect for people who do it. Cause it's hard to carry. I could see you doing it. Cause you talk to the.

• 1:30:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, he does that at Peloton.

• 1:30:38Speaker 00

  Listen, I could do it. I don't want to.

• 1:30:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Exactly.

• 1:30:40Speaker 00

  Also with Peloton, like I'm giving directions.

• 1:30:42Rayna Greenberg?

  There's an audience.

• 1:30:43Speaker 00

  There's an audience or like, and there's music to play off of and talk about. So I am good at that, but yeah.

• 1:30:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. I don't know why someone would write this, but oh, oh, stop. Sorry. I thought it said start, stop pooping in front of my partner.

• 1:30:56Speaker 00

  Stop?

• 1:30:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  But the other one says be able to fart freely in front of my partner.

• 1:31:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I just harried a lot of these together.

• 1:31:02Speaker 00

  Okay, okay, okay. Those are two good, okay.

• 1:31:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stop, just stop.

• 1:31:05Speaker 00

  I'm sorry, but I'm not taking shit in front of.

• 1:31:07Rayna Greenberg?

  You shut the door.

• 1:31:08Speaker 00

  I'm not doing that. I, I'm, that's not happening. Like we need a separation.

• 1:31:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Can you imagine?

• 1:31:14Speaker 00

  We need a separation of church and state in that situation. Like, I don't wanna.

• 1:31:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't want it.

• 1:31:18Speaker 00

  That's, that's, that's losing too much of the magic here. Let's just, let's create, let's close the door, babe.

• 1:31:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't.

• 1:31:24Rayna Greenberg?

  The smells, the sounds.

• 1:31:26Speaker 00

  The smells, the sounds.

• 1:31:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't do any of that stuff in front of anybody. It's not for me.

• 1:31:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  The face you make?

• 1:31:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Poop face.

• 1:31:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 1:31:31Speaker 00

  It's just.

• 1:31:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Divorce.

• 1:31:32Speaker 00

  Maybe, maybe this, this people, like, maybe someone took the leap and started pooping in front of the other, and now it's become commonplace. You guys need to have a new year, new me conversation. Hey babe, I think to maybe like bring back some of the magic or like, just, you know, a little bit. We've been spending a lot of time together. Let's, let's, let's take a step back on the pooping in front of each other. I love you, but like, let's.

• 1:31:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Let's use doors.

• 1:31:57Speaker 00

  Just a little bit of whimsy, you know? Just bring back a little bit of whimsy.

• 1:32:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Mystery, yeah.

• 1:32:01Speaker 00

  Now, the farting thing.

• 1:32:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you fart in front of your partner?

• 1:32:05Speaker 00

  Not yet.

• 1:32:06Rayna Greenberg?

  But you have with other partners?

• 1:32:08Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:32:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause it's funny.

• 1:32:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, but like, at some point, you just gotta do it because it's gonna happen.

• 1:32:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I still haven't done.

• 1:32:15Speaker 00

  You, in front of your husband?

• 1:32:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, not audibly. I'd be crop dusting.

• 1:32:19Speaker 00

  Maybe it's different with two boys a little bit. There's a little bit of like stupidity there.

• 1:32:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I've lived with three different men. No one's ever heard me fart. One time, one boyfriend swore he smelled it.

• 1:32:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't even think I've ever heard you fart.

• 1:32:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't do that. I don't do that in front of other people.

• 1:32:32Speaker 00

  That is, I just like, that would just be a life of too much discomfort.

• 1:32:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm not, I'm not doing it. I'm just like, I'm not.

• 1:32:39Speaker 00

  No, no, but like even having to like get up and go to the bathroom.

• 1:32:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Just bury it.

• 1:32:44Speaker 00

  Take the leap of faith and just have a good giggle about it. If you wanna start farting in front of them, just like, you gotta do it and have a giggle about it.

• 1:32:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:50Speaker 00

  And hopefully they'll do it first, you know?

• 1:32:52Rayna Greenberg?

  The man first, yeah.

• 1:32:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hey babe, should we start farting in front of each other?

• 1:32:56Speaker 00

  No, I don't know about bringing it up. It just has to happen naturally.

• 1:32:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're, no, you're right. Okay. So be more of a baddie than I already am. People ask all the time, I know this is like a broad question, but how can I be more confident? How can I feel better? Like, do you have any tips, small ways to just like?

• 1:33:11Speaker 00

  I mean, not to be that girl, but like, fitness is a good path to that.

• 1:33:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 1:33:15Speaker 00

  I think that like, when you start to create a fitness routine, like, you do still, you start to feel strong. You start to feel confident. You might like the way you look in the mirror. Like, it does kind of build this relationship with self. I just think a relationship with self, either therapy, meditation, like, get to know yourself so that nobody can take that power away from you.

• 1:33:35Rayna Greenberg?

  That's great.

• 1:33:35Speaker 00

  Also, stop caring so much about what people think. People think, they're not worried about you, babe. As much as we think we are the main character in like this, the game that is life, like we, we, nobody cares.

• 1:33:47Rayna Greenberg?

  And mute and unfollow people on social media that make you feel bad. We say this all the time. If, if looking at somebody just makes your levels spike, you don't have to follow them.

• 1:33:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, you can definitely unfollow them, especially if they're not your castmate. That's a callback. That's a callback to the previous conversation.

• 1:34:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, no, I got it. Sorry, I forgot about that.

• 1:34:04Speaker 00

  Can't wait for when you guys unfollow each other.

• 1:34:06Rayna Greenberg?

  That, I, that would be crazy.

• 1:34:08Speaker 00

  It would.

• 1:34:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  That would spice things up.

• 1:34:10Speaker 00

  That would. Maybe for the drama.

• 1:34:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, for the drama.

• 1:34:12Speaker 00

  Just for the drama.

• 1:34:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I like that idea.

• 1:34:13Speaker 00

  So someone needs to do it and then like, no month from now, be like, wait a minute, did you unfollow me?

• 1:34:18Rayna Greenberg?

  And somebody will be like, we always knew they hated each other.

• 1:34:20Speaker 00

  Live on the podcast. Do it in person on your next tour stop.

• 1:34:24Rayna Greenberg?

  It would make me so sad to unfollow you.

• 1:34:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my god.

• 1:34:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Wouldn't it like hurt your feelings to unfollow you?

• 1:34:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I can't even picture it.

• 1:34:29Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 1:34:29Rayna Greenberg?

  But if it gets us some press.

• 1:34:30Speaker 00

  That's sentimental. Yeah, anything for the, anything for the press.

• 1:34:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I love that you even said, I mean, again, like Peloton is just, especially this year, there's been times where I like cannot function of everything happening in the world. And I remember posting early in the year, like, is anyone else doing something like really aggressively? Cause for me, I'm like, I'm going so hard. I have so much rage to get out of my body and my scores were so high, they were through the roof. And I, I did a question box and everyone was doing something the same way, whatever it was, whether it was fitness or some hobby.

• 1:35:02Speaker 00

  See, I feel like I was the opposite. So kudos on you. I kind of went to like a shutdown where everything felt really overwhelming and I just didn't know where to put my energy. But that's really good that you found that outlet.

• 1:35:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have to do that too. And you obviously have to rest and stuff, but it was just like, I feel like rage in my body, I have to get out. And it's like, it's sometimes I just need to, you know.

• 1:35:19Speaker 00

  I'm proud of you for that, cause I've been told I don't know how to show like anger. I'm not good at expressing anger.

• 1:35:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you feel like you couldn't do it as a kid?

• 1:35:27Speaker 00

  Maybe, but I, I just, I've just never been an angry person, but I think like having those outlets are good.

• 1:35:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, but you are doing something like great in the world. You allow people to do that at your class. And you just bring a lot of joy and everything you do. And if people are Peloton fans or not, they should, we really encourage them to take your classes. Cause they're, they're just so fun. And funny and spicy and different.

• 1:35:47Speaker 00

  I love that.

• 1:35:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  You can have a bike and just watch them.

• 1:35:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, you don't have to watch. You can just watch.

• 1:35:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Even if you have a Nordic track.

• 1:35:52Speaker 00

  There you go. Put it on there. Put it on your iPad, you know?

• 1:35:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you get a lot of messages like, you changed my life?

• 1:35:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. And they're always sweet.

• 1:36:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, totally. I just like, I feel like, is there ever a point where you're like, I can't believe, like?

• 1:36:05Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:36:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't believe I get to do this.

• 1:36:07Speaker 00

  I think sometimes I also have a hard time, like, a hard time actually realizing the impact.

• 1:36:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Feeling the gravity of it.

• 1:36:13Speaker 00

  Feeling the gravity of it. I think there's a protector in me that is afraid of losing those things. So if I accept it or bring it in closer, then the fear of losing it becomes more real. Does that make sense?

• 1:36:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  We'll work on that in the next three days.

• 1:36:25Speaker 00

  Yep, exactly, exactly. Ending on a deep note.

• 1:36:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Cody, tell everybody where they can find you.

• 1:36:29Speaker 00

  You can find me on Instagram at Cody Rigsby. You can listen to my podcast, Tackle Pettiness, anywhere you get your podcasts. Peloton's there. And I hope that something of my face makes it onto your For You page, you know?

• 1:36:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  After this, they'll be right there.

• 1:36:44Speaker 00

  After this, right there.

• 1:36:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, guys, well, you know where to find us. GirlsGottaEat.com. GirlsGottaEat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess. Reina is Reina.Greenberg. Also, ReinaGreenberg.com for her tour tickets. If there are any left, subscribe on YouTube, share this episode with a friend, take Cody's Peloton classes, and we will see you Thursday.

• 1:37:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Happy New Year's, guys. Have a great week.

• 1:37:04Speaker 00

  Happy New Year!