Cheryl Hines | Club Random with Bill Maher

In this unforgettable episode of Club Random, Bill Maher sits down with Cheryl Hines for a funny and unpredictable chat about politics, marriage, sex, science, and self-awareness. Cheryl opens up about life with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — from their late-night TV habits to living under scrutiny in a world gone click-crazy. They trade sharp takes on pandemic policy, natural immunity, Big Pharma, and D. C. politics, before veering into lighter territory with Bill’s dislike of red, Cheryl’s leather pants, Priscilla Presley hair, and that persistent “sock” rumor. Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support our Advertisers: Head to https://www.squarespace.com/CLUBRANDOM to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code CLUBRANDOM. Find the right person for the role! Try ZipRecruiter for free at https://www.ziprecruiter.com/random Go to https://www.radioactivemedia.com or text RANDOM to 511511 Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There’s a whole big world out there that isn’t about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it. For advertising opportunities please email: [email protected] ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO’s “Real Time,” Maher’s combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher’s uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect’s Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:30Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, I'm just gonna say this to you. Because it's just the two of us in this.

• 1:36Speaker 03

  No one's listening.

• 1:39Bill Maher?

  I just wish Bobby could stop saying the things I can't defend. You know what I mean?

• 1:45Speaker 03

  Do you have something in mind?

• 1:50Bill Maher?

  And Cheryl, I know is here.

• 1:52Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 1:53Bill Maher?

  Don't get up.

• 1:54Speaker 03

  Don't get, okay, I won't get up. I'm all pinned in.

• 1:56Bill Maher?

  Adore you from here. You look awesome. How are you?

• 1:59Speaker 03

  I'm good. How are you?

• 2:00Bill Maher?

  I look, I tried to find Halloween colors because it's right before Halloween. Oh, your book. Toby, your book already. Probably get right to the plug.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:10Bill Maher?

  Unscripted. Okay, we will get to it. I'll just hold it up the whole show in front of my face.

• 2:14Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:16Bill Maher?

  But I did, this is as close as I, I don't have any orange clothing.

• 2:19Speaker 03

  Well, I think orange would be too much.

• 2:21Bill Maher?

  I think it's always too much. As clothing?

• 2:24Speaker 03

  Orange?

• 2:25Bill Maher?

  Orange, ori- I do not like red on women.

• 2:28Speaker 03

  You don't?

• 2:29Bill Maher?

  No, and I've had a number of women over the years, there's been a lot of years.

• 2:33Speaker 03

  Try to oppress you with red?

• 2:35Bill Maher?

  Well, they, I feel they think men are like a bull.

• 2:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:39Bill Maher?

  And you know, if you wear-

• 2:40Speaker 03

  It attracts, it attracts.

• 2:41Bill Maher?

  Like, like red, like blood red lingerie, such a turn off, to me.

• 2:46Speaker 03

  I did not know that.

• 2:47Bill Maher?

  Well, why would you?

• 2:49Speaker 03

  Well, we've never talked about it till now, but I'm glad to know. I am glad to know. But that's odd, because I wonder if, uh, but there, because lingerie stores, it's mostly black and red, no?

• 3:03Bill Maher?

  Well, no, there's like powder blue, you know, I like those kind of pastel.

• 3:09Speaker 03

  Something soothing. Right? Is that what you're saying?

• 3:13Bill Maher?

  To even out my-

• 3:14Speaker 03

  Your, your intensity.

• 3:17Bill Maher?

  Exactly. No, I don't know that that's why, but I just like, you know, I don't like thick,

• 3:27Bill Maher?

  loud clothes on women, like I don't like leather or-

• 3:31Speaker 03

  Oh, I'm wearing leather, awkward.

• 3:33Bill Maher?

  No, no, I mean, it looks great on you.

• 3:35Speaker 03

  Then backtrack, okay, thank you.

• 3:38Bill Maher?

  No, I, it's sort of like-

• 3:39Speaker 03

  But like a, like a S and M type of a, no, you like that?

• 3:43Bill Maher?

  No, I'm just someone who like, I might be like touching during the night.

• 3:48Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 3:48Bill Maher?

  You know, like you're at a-

• 3:49Speaker 03

  You don't need this in the middle of the night.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  I was trying to get to the bottom of it.

• 3:53Bill Maher?

  It's just too, it's too thick, you know, like you can't tell, you know, can't-

• 3:57Speaker 03

  You want to feel somebody's-

• 3:58Bill Maher?

  The woman.

• 3:58Speaker 03

  You want to feel the woman.

• 4:01Bill Maher?

  You want, you want to understand-

• 4:02Speaker 03

  I get you, I totally get you.

• 4:03Bill Maher?

  I know you do. And I'm so glad you're here, I, uh, let's-

• 4:08Speaker 03

  I'm so glad to be here, I've been dying to talk to you, I feel like we have a lot to talk about.

• 4:12Bill Maher?

  We, we, we certainly could.

• 4:16Speaker 03

  We certainly could.

• 4:16Bill Maher?

  We have a lot in common, I think, and, you know, you gave me a great, um, subject.

• 4:26Bill Maher?

  About a year ago, to talk about when they attacked you. And I was more than happy.

• 4:31Speaker 03

  I really appreciate that.

• 4:33Bill Maher?

  It was a labor.

• 4:33Speaker 03

  I really appreciated that.

• 4:35Bill Maher?

  A labor of love.

• 4:36Speaker 03

  I mentioned it in my book.

• 4:38Bill Maher?

  Oh, great.

• 4:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:39Bill Maher?

  Oh, that's fantastic. The book, are you talking about Unscripted by Cheryl Hines?

• 4:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:46Bill Maher?

  Wow, you really held up well. You look fantastic, both in person and on the cover.

• 4:50Speaker 03

  And on the cover.

• 4:51Bill Maher?

  Yeah, you look just the same as in the cover.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 4:54Bill Maher?

  Yes, it's on the book. And then, and that has to be.

• 4:57Speaker 03

  Something.

• 4:58Bill Maher?

  And we live in an age of, you know.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Airbrush.

• 5:03Bill Maher?

  The least of it, talking about filters and, you know.

• 5:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then you see someone in person, you're like, whoa, whoa.

• 5:11Bill Maher?

  The things that young girls.

• 5:13Speaker 03

  I know.

• 5:14Bill Maher?

  Find, they must find attractive. Because I know, you know, not too recently, but not crazily long ago. I remember some girl I knew, she was on the younger side. And would send me pictures of herself that were like, I'm like, wow, you think this is attracting me? That you look like a fucking science project?

• 5:37Speaker 03

  Oh, just like to?

• 5:39Bill Maher?

  Yeah, like, like, it can't, I don't think it's something she actually did to herself. Although I don't really, don't remember, I didn't know her very well. But I think it was just more like the filter or like whatever. But whatever it is, it was like.

• 5:52Speaker 03

  Didn't look like a real person.

• 5:53Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 5:54Speaker 03

  By the time it gets to you.

• 5:55Bill Maher?

  Yeah, and obviously, I'm thinking, obviously, you think this is attractive.

• 5:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, but you would like to see a poor or a.

• 6:02Bill Maher?

  I like to see a human.

• 6:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's fair.

• 6:05Bill Maher?

  You know, and women are beautiful, you know, we don't need to like, I mean, and they do it so young.

• 6:12Speaker 03

  I know, that is, it is.

• 6:14Bill Maher?

  Sad, right?

• 6:15Speaker 03

  Sad, and I think it is because of social media, right?

• 6:19Bill Maher?

  Um, I don't know. You have a kid around that age?

• 6:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, I have a 21-year-old daughter.

• 6:25Bill Maher?

  Oh.

• 6:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:27Bill Maher?

  21 is an interesting age for women.

• 6:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:31Bill Maher?

  I feel.

• 6:33Bill Maher?

  I've known many at that age.

• 6:35Speaker 03

  I bet you do.

• 6:36Bill Maher?

  Yeah, no, over the years, I'm saying, I'm not saying.

• 6:39Speaker 03

  Right now, you're in, yeah.

• 6:41Bill Maher?

  I'm not saying I'm not, but I'm not saying anything, but.

• 6:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I'm not pinning.

• 6:44Bill Maher?

  But it's like, I feel like women have a brief period when they're wild. You know, girls just want to have fun, remember that song?

• 6:53Speaker 03

  I do.

• 6:55Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that's true. But it ends like fairly quickly, like by the time they're 25.

• 7:03Speaker 03

  They know what's up.

• 7:04Bill Maher?

  They know what's up.

• 7:05Speaker 03

  And it's like, ah, I got better things to do.

• 7:08Bill Maher?

  Right, and I'm not experimenting anymore.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:11Bill Maher?

  And I'm, you know, and I'm maybe thinking about, you know, the one and suddenly, you know, it's like.

• 7:18Speaker 03

  Right, right, right.

• 7:19Bill Maher?

  They get to be a mature person and adult by 25, a woman.

• 7:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:24Bill Maher?

  Whereas a man is a boy until.

• 7:26Speaker 03

  Could be till he dies.

• 7:29Bill Maher?

  Wouldn't know better than you.

• 7:32Speaker 03

  With that, I'll take a sip.

• 7:35Bill Maher?

  No, I'm just saying, you've, there's some men in your life who are.

• 7:40Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 7:41Bill Maher?

  I mean, Bobby was here, I love him.

• 7:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, he loves you.

• 7:44Bill Maher?

  I hope so.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  He does.

• 7:45Bill Maher?

  You know, I've done my jokes.

• 7:47Speaker 03

  I know.

• 7:47Bill Maher?

  I've also done a lot of things in support that most people have not.

• 7:51Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 7:52Bill Maher?

  You know.

• 7:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:53Bill Maher?

  I think he has some amazingly good ideas and he's gutsy like, like almost nobody else is. Is, you know, as far as like, I will lose my family.

• 8:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:04Bill Maher?

  For what I believe in.

• 8:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:05Bill Maher?

  I will lose friends. You know, I said to him when he was here, I said, I don't think your father would agree with you on everything you're saying, but I think he'd be very proud of you for the way you stand up for what you believe in.

• 8:18Speaker 03

  I agree, yeah.

• 8:19Bill Maher?

  And I, and you know, one of the points I made in the thing I did about you was that, you know, she made it plain that she doesn't agree with everything. That's gotta be enough when you're in a marriage.

• 8:32Speaker 03

  I know. It was, it was, I mean, it continues to be sometimes, but yeah, when he, a lot of people are just mad that I'm married to Bobby.

• 8:44Bill Maher?

  They're just mad, Cheryl.

• 8:46Speaker 03

  They're just mad. People are just mad.

• 8:48Bill Maher?

  They're just mad.

• 8:49Speaker 03

  I know.

• 8:49Bill Maher?

  It's you today, it's something else tomorrow.

• 8:52Speaker 03

  It's true.

• 8:54Bill Maher?

  They just, you can tell in their vitriol. You know, what made that piece, I thought, so much better was that it just happened to be after the Democratic convention. And Obama, that week, and the person I went after hard was Bradley Whitford. Who was just, what a, and I, I, I guess I thank you also because it gave me a chance to, you know, say this, you know, when people ask me, why should think about the left these days? I'm like, well, I'm not a Republican, that is not going to happen. But this level of obnoxiousness that does, did not exist in the old liberals that I remember. You know, this, this level of vitriol, and it was right after Obama and Clinton had got

• 9:39Bill Maher?

  up at the convention and made, and made their plea by saying, I forget Obama's exact words, but it was like, we have to stop scolding and shaming. We have to stop seeing people as the worst of what they are if we just disagree on one issue. I mean, it was, and I remember saying in the piece to Bradley Whitford, did you go to the bathroom when he was, because it's almost like he's speaking directly to you for what you said about Cheryl, which is, you know, she, she must burn in hell because

• 10:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was weird. I mean, I talk about it in, in the book because I was trying to stay off social media. I tried to, but you know, you get sucked in every so often. But I woke up and people were texting me like, whoa, this guy's such an asshole. And I thought, oh, I, you know, I had a lot of guesses who the asshole could be. I did not. I did not think it would be Bradley Whitford. I was like, whoa, why is Bradley Whitford coming at me?

• 10:40Bill Maher?

  Because that he it could have been, it was him. But it could have been and was other people. I mean, this town is is a bunch of people like that.

• 10:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:50Bill Maher?

  I mean, I I I I get basically the same thing in different forms.

• 10:55Speaker 03

  I know.

• 10:56Bill Maher?

  They they are they are not big thinkers. I'm sorry, they're not, I say it all the time here. People in show business, their talent is awe inspiring.

• 11:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:06Bill Maher?

  They're not that bright, with notable exceptions. But they're just, they're not, and they think they are because they're very talented.

• 11:14Speaker 03

  That's the problem is, you know, somebody sitting in their chair thinks that they could do better

• 11:22Speaker 03

  on the Hill. It's like, well, then go on the Hill and try to make change. But you're just sitting here criticizing everybody else. It's it's, yeah, but but acting like you you know better, you would do better. And they're all hard jobs that people are doing in DC, really hard jobs.

• 11:40Bill Maher?

  Yes, and a lot of them are sincere, some of them are not.

• 11:45Bill Maher?

  But even Trump, you know, in his, do I agree with most of it? No, and I I hear from him still complaining and bitching and moaning, even after I had, you know, I got the same kind of shit you did when I went to dinner from your TV husband especially.

• 12:00Speaker 03

  That was, have you talked to him since then? Or it's none of my business.

• 12:05Bill Maher?

  I I haven't.

• 12:06Speaker 03

  That was crazy, that he came after you, that was such a.

• 12:10Bill Maher?

  Well, Hitler, like, once you play that Hitler card, first of all, you've lost me.

• 12:15Speaker 03

  I know.

• 12:16Bill Maher?

  I mean, it's, first of all, it's from a Jew. It's so insulting to anyone who was actually affected by the Holocaust. And I I see now that Jimmy Kimmel has offered, he said, I would love to have Trump on as a guest. Is he a Hitler talker too? Is now Jimmy Kimmel.

• 12:34Speaker 03

  Right, for even saying that.

• 12:36Bill Maher?

  Besides the fact that, you know, you could have waited until you saw how I reacted after the dinner, which was I never stopped criticizing him.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:46Bill Maher?

  I have the tapes to prove it.

• 12:48Speaker 03

  But the fact that you shared the same air was enough to make people crazy.

• 12:54Bill Maher?

  Shared the same air is the perfect phrase for it. That's exactly what it is. And that's, to get back to this point, is exactly my problem with the left these days. That fucking attitude. I think in the piece, I called them liberals in theory. I define liberals in theory as liberals supposed to be compassionate.

• 13:20Speaker 03

  Right.

• 13:20Bill Maher?

  That's their big thing.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  And accepting everyone as who you are.

• 13:25Bill Maher?

  There was nothing compassionate

• 13:27Speaker 03

  No.

• 13:27Bill Maher?

  about what he said about you. Or the simplest kind of compassion, which would be to understand that in a marriage, not everything the other person does or says is gonna be what you do or what you approve of. And to make the marriage work, you sometimes have to just... What marriage doesn't go by that rule?

• 13:48Speaker 03

  Right. You have to compromise.

• 13:50Bill Maher?

  Yeah, yes.

• 13:51Speaker 03

  You have to step back and talk and listen and say, okay, that drives me crazy, but...

• 13:56Bill Maher?

  And sometimes just eat it.

• 13:57Speaker 03

  I know. That's what I remember too about your monologue. It really made me laugh. It's like, sometimes when you're married, you just have to eat shit. And I was like, you're not wrong.

• 14:08Bill Maher?

  You're not... And everybody who's ever been married knows I'm not wrong. I've never been married and I know I'm not wrong.

• 14:13Speaker 03

  Because any relationship.

• 14:14Bill Maher?

  Because any relationship.

• 14:16Speaker 03

  If you have kids, if you have a boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever it is, it's like at some point, sometimes you just have to say, okay, I... We'll get through this moment. And we know who we are to each other, and that's what really counts. But that's what was weird too about his tweet, where he said, great. Well, there's something about like, great, uh.

• 14:40Bill Maher?

  Great job Cheryl.

• 14:41Speaker 03

  Great.

• 14:42Bill Maher?

  Great job. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. Good example for the kids.

• 14:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, for the kids.

• 14:46Bill Maher?

  You know, it's like, oh, shut the fuck up.

• 14:49Speaker 03

  For the kids.

• 14:50Bill Maher?

  It's just, yes, another one of their liberals in theory, they hate bullying. It's just the worst thing in the world, except when.

• 14:59Speaker 03

  When they do it.

• 14:59Bill Maher?

  Except when we're putting your head in the locker.

• 15:02Speaker 03

  Uh huh.

• 15:02Bill Maher?

  Then it's always acceptable because we know what the truth is.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  Right.

• 15:06Bill Maher?

  So whatever we do to the other person.

• 15:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was odd. It was all very odd.

• 15:10Bill Maher?

  It's just ugly. Ugly.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  But I really appreciate it. Oh my gosh.

• 15:14Bill Maher?

  Oh, yes. No, no, I.

• 15:16Speaker 03

  At the time, I was like, wow, uh, this is so crazy. And you know, it got a lot of pickup. People were writing about it and talking about it and I, you know, I didn't want anything to do with it to begin with and. But when you came out, I was like, oh my God, Bill, I love you.

• 15:33Bill Maher?

  I love you back and, uh, I hope I'm not the only one. I'm sure I'm not. I think it would be a tragedy, although I wouldn't be surprised if it's the case, that you would lose jobs. Because this is, it's funny, it's a town that loves to romanticize the period in the 50s when there was a blacklist. And as they should, because it was a terrible blacklist. But they have their own kind of blacklist now. It's not like they aren't sort of recapitulating that when it was a witch hunt about communists. Now it's a witch hunt for people who aren't woke enough. You know, it's not like we're conservatives.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  That's the thing. It's like, I, that's what's crazy.

• 16:20Bill Maher?

  That's what's so obnoxious.

• 16:21Speaker 03

  That's why I feel like I have a lot in common with you because, uh, yeah, that's who I have always been and I've always been.

• 16:31Speaker 03

  I don't know. I try not to judge people and I am curious about people and if somebody has a different opinion, I, I'm interested in listening to it, but.

• 16:40Bill Maher?

  Yeah, right.

• 16:41Speaker 03

  These, a lot of people do not, like you said, if you're sharing the same air with somebody.

• 16:48Bill Maher?

  But again, people who are basically on your team. Like I always say to my woke friends, we voted for the same person. You're just why she lost.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  I mean, the whole election was cuckoo birds.

• 17:05Bill Maher?

  Yes, I was the first one to point that out about Trump, but he's not. You see, this is the thing he signed when I went in.

• 17:11Speaker 03

  What is that?

• 17:12Bill Maher?

  That's every insult he's ever said about me publicly. I had him printed out and he signed it, God bless him. But I earned every one of those, you know? I, it's not like I was ever deceived before or after I had dinner with him. And I want to have dinner with him again. I think he needs more people, and he likes talking to people.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  He does. That is exactly what somebody was just asking me about when I met him. What surprised me the most, and I said, I was surprised that he really likes to listen to people. He's very curious and what you have to say.

• 17:51Bill Maher?

  They hated when I said that, again, because I'm just telling you what happened. Should I lie?

• 17:57Speaker 03

  I guess so.

• 17:59Bill Maher?

  Right, he kicked me in the balls under the table.

• 18:01Speaker 03

  Like I knew he would.

• 18:02Bill Maher?

  He threw the spaghetti against the wall when I raised the subject of tariffs. No, no.

• 18:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, he listened.

• 18:10Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I think he actually wants more people around him for stimulating conversation.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:18Bill Maher?

  I was very surprised, and mentioned it, again, they hated me for it, that as opposed to so many important people I've met who, when you talk to them, you don't feel like they're really listening, they're kind of like, you know what I mean? And then when they answer you, it doesn't quite track, you know?

• 18:38Speaker 03

  They're just waiting for their turn to talk.

• 18:40Bill Maher?

  Yes, or they're just on a just different level. I mean, these are show people too, I've had that. But I didn't get that with him at all. I got a guy who looked in my eye, was listening to what I said, waited until I finished, even when it was contradictory, when it was an, he never got blustery or mad about it. You know, he said some things that I don't agree with and some things that I think are just, you know, plainly not right, like, you know, a third term. Yeah, I think you could do it, I'm having people look into it. No, you can't do it. And you can have people look into it from now until the end of time. It's like 12 words in the Constitution. You can't do it. But he didn't get mad.

• 19:20Speaker 03

  Right.

• 19:20Bill Maher?

  And then I also made the point that, you know, I went home that night and I was getting into bed. And 60 Minutes, I taped it. And there he is in 60 Minutes and he's like ranting and raving. I'm like, who is this guy?

• 19:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:33Bill Maher?

  This is not the guy I met.

• 19:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:35Bill Maher?

  And so I'm just, I'm just the reporter here. I'm just telling you.

• 19:39Speaker 03

  This is my experience.

• 19:40Bill Maher?

  If this is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, find a way to work with Dr. Jekyll.

• 19:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:45Bill Maher?

  Or Mr. Hyde, I forget which one.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:48Bill Maher?

  One of them you want to work.

• 19:49Speaker 03

  One of them's good, one of them's nice and one of them's not. And I couldn't tell you either. But yeah, I think it's, you know, it's a matter of style. His leadership, a lot of people hated so much that no matter what he accomplishes, like, the day they, the hostages were freed.

• 20:09Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  I, Bill, I thought.

• 20:11Bill Maher?

  Awesome.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  I thought, I woke up, I turned on the TV because I wanted to see if it was actually happening. And it did. And they were all released. And I thought, this is the thing that's going to bring people together. Because everybody, everybody wanted that. And I didn't hear, I didn't hear people celebrating it.

• 20:33Bill Maher?

  Oh, I did. And got shit from a lot of media for it. I forget who said their headline was something like, "Bill Maher Spent Six Whole Minutes Praising Trump For His..." Okay, well, it was a panel with two other people. So three of us were talking. Six minutes on the subject isn't really that outrageous. It was kind of the big story of the week.

• 20:54Speaker 03

  It's a huge story. It's still a huge story.

• 20:57Bill Maher?

  It was Mark Cuban and Andrew Ross Sorkin, two really smart guys. And me. And yes, we were all kind of in agreement.

• 21:05Speaker 03

  How could anybody not be in agreement with that?

• 21:09Bill Maher?

  Because it's, it's about their feelings. It's about how they feel, Cheryl.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:15Bill Maher?

  It's not about what really happened.

• 21:16Speaker 03

  I know.

• 21:17Bill Maher?

  How does it make them feel? Not good, because Trump did something good. You know, and it's like, it's like, I just don't, I'm not going to live in that world.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  And it wasn't just something good. You know, this was what people have been.

• 21:31Bill Maher?

  I said that.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  Fighting for, they've been.

• 21:32Bill Maher?

  Trying to do this forever.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  They've been, you know, I was reading Kamala Harris's book and.

• 21:40Bill Maher?

  Would you lose a bet?

• 21:41Speaker 03

  I really made you do a spit.

• 21:44Bill Maher?

  Seriously? There's a sentence I never heard after pass me the anvil. I was reading Kamala Harris's book. And they say you're not liberal enough?

• 21:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:56Bill Maher?

  People. She's reading Kamala Harris's book. Give the woman a break.

• 22:02Speaker 03

  But she was talking about, you know, the hostages and that the whole situation. She and she was basically saying it's it's impossible. Just we tried and it's it's like, well.

• 22:14Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  But but it seemed impossible, yes.

• 22:16Bill Maher?

  Well.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  And then and then it happened and both sides were released. It wasn't just, oh, this side got fooled and they're. And that was when I really I lost.

• 22:26Bill Maher?

  Well.

• 22:26Speaker 03

  A lot of respect for some people.

• 22:29Bill Maher?

  I I lost that respect a while ago. But to that point, you know, if you're in the wing of we don't breathe the same air. And how dare you talk to the president?

• 22:41Speaker 03

  Right.

• 22:41Bill Maher?

  Why? What am I going to elevate him? Oh, my God, what's he going to become president of the United States?

• 22:46Speaker 03

  Right.

• 22:47Bill Maher?

  It's there's no there there to their argument. And here's a very good counter argument. The Middle East deal shows that especially with him. Everything is personal relationships.

• 23:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:01Bill Maher?

  If you don't get that about him, you're just screaming into the wind.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  Right.

• 23:05Bill Maher?

  I hate Trump more than you do. That's all they have.

• 23:09Speaker 03

  Right.

• 23:09Bill Maher?

  Wow, you win the beat a dead horse contest.

• 23:14Speaker 03

  Well, that's it's true. It is even like the Middle East. He is and you're right. And it goes back to when you meet him in person and he listens. And he really does want peace.

• 23:28Bill Maher?

  That's one definite plus with him.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 23:31Bill Maher?

  I learned that in the at the dinner.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 23:34Bill Maher?

  But you also see it in the actions.

• 23:35Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 23:36Bill Maher?

  He really hates war.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 23:38Bill Maher?

  Now, look, I mean, I'm I'm an Obama guy. When Obama said, I'm not against all wars. I'm just against stupid wars. That's more my position.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:47Bill Maher?

  I hope that Trump, you know, first of all, you know, I was not for his plan with Ukraine, which was I can get a peace deal. Yeah, surrender. Give Putin everything he wants. And it still didn't work. It just shows, it works someplace. Now he just come back from China. You know, I think, I don't think he's handling China right. I think he thinks we have more leverage with China. And China has all the leverage. But in the Middle East, it worked. And part of the reason why is because they did have those personal relationships.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:20Bill Maher?

  Jared Kushner, you know, I mean, I know he, some of these deals with Bahrain and whatever are probably a little sketchy. And they're gonna make a lot of money for the family. Okay, I get it. But you know what? We're living in the world we're living in. And the people who like are on their high horse, I mean, look, the head of Saudi Arabia did chop off a reporter's head. It's no doubt about it. And for a year Biden was, I don't talk to you. And then he had to. Because it's Saudi Arabia. It's bad that he should cut off a guy's head, but he's also modernizing the country. And these are the kind of mature, yes, difficult kind of compromises that mature people make. And Biden was there a year later fist bumping the guy that he said he wouldn't talk to.

• 25:05Bill Maher?

  Because you have to, because it's Saudi Arabia. They have the oil.

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:10Bill Maher?

  And they're the counterweight to Iran. We need to talk to them. And the Trump crowd is, they just don't play that game. They don't pretend about anything. Some of it goes too far. And they sound semi, or sometimes a little more than semi racist. And, and they, lots of stuff I fucking hate that they do. I said when he got elected, I said, I'm not gonna pre-hate anything. And then two weeks later, I went, here's a list of things I hate. There's things I hate.

• 25:39Speaker 03

  That must be true with every president, though. No?

• 25:41Bill Maher?

  Not to his degree. His, his, his sins are much more existential, mostly about democracy and ignoring court orders and like, you know, I don't like ICE, zip tying children and throwing them in vans. There's, there's plenty to complain about. And I have, and he's noticed, you know, and, and I'm not gonna go into what, what's going on. But, you know, I hope to have dinner with him again. And, you know, he, he definitely doesn't like it when you.

• 26:15Bill Maher?

  critique him and thinks you're being unfair. But he is willing to listen.

• 26:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:20Bill Maher?

  And he totally is not because I, you know, had dinner with him and then didn't become a Trump, Trumpist. He will yell at me, but does not want to cut me off. He does not want to cut me off, which is something I cannot say about the left.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  Well, that's

• 26:35Bill Maher?

  They want to cut you off.

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Well, that is true because the Republicans have been very kind to me from the beginning. Even from the beginning, when Bobby was running as a Democrat, they were, they were, they weren't mean.

• 26:53Bill Maher?

  No.

• 26:53Speaker 03

  And they never have been.

• 26:55Bill Maher?

  No.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  And, and I can't say that for the Democrats.

• 26:59Bill Maher?

  I agree.

• 26:59Speaker 03

  And it's a

• 27:00Bill Maher?

  It's sad because it's not the Democrats we grew up with.

• 27:03Speaker 03

  Right, yeah.

• 27:04Bill Maher?

  And that's, that's the difference that people don't, I think, see. They're like, why did you turn on the Democrats? Well, first of all, I didn't. Like I said, I, we voted for the same person. But I, I'm not going to pretend I don't notice.

• 27:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:18Bill Maher?

  How different they are.

• 27:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:20Bill Maher?

  How mean they've become.

• 27:21Speaker 03

  Very mean.

• 27:22Bill Maher?

  And also like often just bereft of the facts. I mean, like, you don't get it about Israel for sure. You know, I mean, there's some real terrorist happy people in the party that's supposed to be. I, I always say, just the fact that the social justice warriors do not make gender apartheid

• 27:46Bill Maher?

  their number one issue. The fact that so many women in the world, yes, mostly Muslim, but not all just Muslim, are beyond second-class citizens, just chattel, really. The fact that that isn't your number one issue, you already lost me. Israel, has it made mistakes? I'm sure it has, blah, blah, blah, lots of, but. We're talking about who is oppressing and being oppressed the most in the world that you should care about and be protesting about, that would be it. Women who are basically treated as second-class citizens at best.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  And instead, what do you think they're focusing on?

• 28:28Bill Maher?

  Israel.

• 28:29Speaker 03

  Right.

• 28:30Bill Maher?

  Somehow the Jews are, it's, one thing can unite the left and right, kind of keep an eye on the Jews. Fifteen million people in a world of eight billion, but boy, they get a lot of attention.

• 28:44Speaker 03

  And, you know, it goes back to the president who is willing and able to speak to both sides, to wants peace, wants to figure out solutions, we not necessarily in the Women's Rights Department.

• 29:04Bill Maher?

  I would say that is his, is, is, is bane and his boon. I mean, yes, he's a guy who looks at things that are amiss, at least in his view, but I often agree with what he assesses as something that needs correcting. The border needed correcting. Well, now even the Democrats, Bernie Sanders was out there in the news, and Pritzker, the guy who's going to run for president, governor of Illinois, both saying, Trump, Trump was right. Biden fucked it up, and he got in there and he fixed the border. I mean, that's pretty amazing when you got people like that saying, okay, you, you did the right thing.

• 29:44Bill Maher?

  So, most of the other things, like, I agree, are colleges insane, have elite colleges gone out of, yes, that's the mouth of the river for all this crazy woke shit, that's where it comes from. Lots of other things where he just, I, NATO did need to pay more, you know, he identified a problem. Mostly, you know, or at least largely, he has done things which I wouldn't do as the solution. You know, was government bloated? Yes. Should we bring in Elon Musk with the chainsaw? No.

• 30:20Bill Maher?

  No, that was not.

• 30:21Speaker 03

  He didn't like the style of that.

• 30:24Bill Maher?

  I didn't like that people were killed.

• 30:27Speaker 03

  No, not.

• 30:28Bill Maher?

  For no good reason.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:29Bill Maher?

  And that's just not the way. And if there was any silver lining to that one, it was that we found out that actually, a lot of the administrations have, when they got in, really took a hard look at where the waste is.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:45Bill Maher?

  And it's not as much as we thought. It really isn't.

• 30:50Speaker 03

  Oh, when other people looked at the waste?

• 30:52Bill Maher?

  Well, even when Elon did.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  There's a lot of waste.

• 30:56Bill Maher?

  Yeah, but not where they cut it. The waste is like in the Pentagon.

• 31:00Speaker 03

  Not necessarily.

• 31:01Bill Maher?

  Really? Where do you think it is?

• 31:02Speaker 03

  It's all over, it's all over the world, you know. It's funding that we are funding for other countries, you know, that there's some.

• 31:14Bill Maher?

  Oh, there's some crazy shit.

• 31:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's some crazy shit.

• 31:16Bill Maher?

  No, I remember, I think Bobby did testify about this and there was stuff in the HHS. But now that's an enormous bureaucracy. That's Health and Human Services. He's not just head of the CDC or the FDA. This is Health and Hu— this is what, $180 billion or something in this? These are lots of agencies.

• 31:37Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 31:37Bill Maher?

  I mean, but that is a sprawling budget. I mean, he must come home with like fucking tons of work.

• 31:44Speaker 03

  He does. Yeah, he does.

• 31:46Bill Maher?

  Does he, does he take it home?

• 31:48Speaker 03

  He's pretty good at, um...

• 31:52Speaker 03

  I don't want to say leaving it at the door because that's not necessarily true, but.

• 31:57Bill Maher?

  Time does he come through the door?

• 31:58Speaker 03

  It depends on the day. It really, but you know, there are calls and things going on all hours of the.

• 32:06Bill Maher?

  But you're living in Washington.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  For the most part, yeah.

• 32:10Bill Maher?

  Like in a great place in Georgetown or something? Yeah, Georgetown's awesome.

• 32:15Speaker 03

  It's so great.

• 32:17Bill Maher?

  I remember I stayed there for a month when I was making the Academy Award winning movie DC Cab.

• 32:24Speaker 03

  I'm sorry I haven't seen that. But now, but now I'm curious. Was it good?

• 32:29Bill Maher?

  19, no, it was a big hit though. 1983, Mr. T.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  I love Mr. T.

• 32:37Bill Maher?

  Gary Busey.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  Love Gary Busey.

• 32:39Bill Maher?

  I mean, some very, very fine people in there.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  Were you guys cab drivers?

• 32:43Bill Maher?

  We were cab drivers, exactly, in Washington DC.

• 32:46Speaker 03

  And what, did you know everybody's secrets? Because they were talking on the phone. No, people didn't have cell phones then.

• 32:50Bill Maher?

  No, but Cheryl.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:51Bill Maher?

  What haunted us was the idea that maybe whatever dreams we had for another life were not going to come true and maybe we really were cab drivers.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  Ah, that was your destiny.

• 33:04Bill Maher?

  I wanted to be a musician.

• 33:05Speaker 03

  But you couldn't.

• 33:06Bill Maher?

  Well, I just.

• 33:08Speaker 03

  But you couldn't.

• 33:09Bill Maher?

  You know what, at the end.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, you did.

• 33:12Bill Maher?

  No.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  You played the guitar, no?

• 33:13Bill Maher?

  No, at the end I realized it's not so bad to be a cab driver. Because we were a family.

• 33:19Speaker 03

  Oh, you guys.

• 33:20Bill Maher?

  Of cab drivers.

• 33:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. How would you, when would you see each other? At the station?

• 33:26Bill Maher?

  Absolutely.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  And just hang out till you got a call?

• 33:28Bill Maher?

  Of course, that's exactly how it went. Now they're making DC Uber. It's different, people don't know each other.

• 33:38Speaker 03

  And will never see each other. They text.

• 33:42Bill Maher?

  Exactly.

• 33:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:45Bill Maher?

  But I stayed in Georgetown for a month.

• 33:48Speaker 03

  It's so cute, really beautiful.

• 33:49Bill Maher?

  And I really loved it. I mean, that's just such a cool neighborhood.

• 33:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a beautiful city.

• 33:55Bill Maher?

  I mean, it's high end, but there's also something a little bohemian about it.

• 34:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:00Bill Maher?

  You know?

• 34:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a li, you can wear jeans there. I find in DC, a lot of.

• 34:06Bill Maher?

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  Not a lot of people wear jeans.

• 34:08Bill Maher?

  Jet is not a jeans town, absolutely not.

• 34:10Speaker 03

  That's been tough.

• 34:11Bill Maher?

  I mean, we're trying to get Fetterman into jeans.

• 34:14Speaker 03

  Instead of the cargo shorts?

• 34:15Bill Maher?

  That would be a step up from the shorts, but.

• 34:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is, it's a buttoned up town.

• 34:21Bill Maher?

  Oh, so buttoned up. I used to love playing it for the show because the crowd is politically hip. But after the show, I never found the party.

• 34:32Speaker 03

  Maybe it's a little looser now. I've seen some parties. Well, not your type of party, let's be honest.

• 34:38Bill Maher?

  I remember doing the Correspondence Dinner one year in the 90s, you know, when you're the new kid on the block. And it was just terrible because half the audience just can't be seen laughing.

• 34:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:52Bill Maher?

  At something that is...

• 34:53Speaker 03

  Right, that you're making a joke about their work.

• 34:55Bill Maher?

  Their team, right. So, it's just a shitty crowd. And every year, they try to get a political comic, and every year, it's a disaster. And they should, not every year. Stephen Colbert, who I do not like, and he doesn't like me, and that's fine. But the year, I give him credit for that. The year he did it in front of Bush was a genius performance. A great use of true satire. But generally, it's a disaster. They should just get a juggler or somebody who's apolitical. They think they can put, they can shoehorn politics into that.

• 35:29Speaker 03

  But it doesn't work.

• 35:30Bill Maher?

  It's really...

• 35:31Speaker 03

  But it's not funny. It's like, no, I tried to get that bill passed for two years, and you're making fun of it?

• 35:36Bill Maher?

  Right.

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• 36:36Speaker 03

  I know, because now, like an insider, you know, I see things from a different perspective. And it's...

• 36:45Bill Maher?

  Like what?

• 36:47Speaker 03

  Ah, just, you know, counting votes and

• 36:50Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 36:50Speaker 03

  Do we have your support?

• 36:52Bill Maher?

  The minutiae.

• 36:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it's like, we, we, and even like the hearings. Horse trading. Yeah, horse trading and, um, tomorrow, a lot of stuff is like popping off every day. Like, tomorrow, we're making an announcement.

• 37:03Bill Maher?

  Bobby has to do that? Like, he has to do that kind of horse trading with, with senators and congressmen to get their support on shit?

• 37:10Speaker 03

  Um, I wouldn't say he does horse trading, but, uh, but, you know, something like, um, favored nations drug pricing, you know, that, that was not easy to do.

• 37:23Bill Maher?

  Favored nations drug pricing.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, the president and Bobby, um, it was really important to the president that Americans don't pay more for pharmaceutical drugs than other countries. So, we've been paying sometime hundred, hundred percent more, five hundred percent more.

• 37:44Bill Maher?

  There's no laws about it.

• 37:45Speaker 03

  No.

• 37:46Bill Maher?

  It's crazy.

• 37:46Speaker 03

  And so, so to get that to happen.

• 37:50Bill Maher?

  What to happen? So, we're fixing that?

• 37:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:53Bill Maher?

  Oh.

• 37:53Speaker 03

  Well, we've had, um, big pharmaceutical companies come in and say, yes, we're doing it, we're not going to charge Americans more than we charge other countries.

• 38:04Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I read about Pfizer.

• 38:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, Pfizer. I mean.

• 38:08Bill Maher?

  What?

• 38:08Speaker 03

  That's amazing, that they, you know, that these companies are coming forward and saying, yes, we'll do it, because, uh, you know, it's gonna be, I don't want to say a loss for them, but when, you know, a drug price was twelve hundred dollars and now it's gonna be two hundred dollars.

• 38:28Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 38:28Speaker 03

  Like, some, somebody, somewhere is having to shift. So, things like that, you know, where it's, you're...

• 38:35Bill Maher?

  But we're really doing that. That's gonna happen.

• 38:37Speaker 03

  It's already happening.

• 38:38Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it's going, uh...

• 38:41Bill Maher?

  Well, that's another one, you know.

• 38:43Speaker 03

  Right, who could be mad about this?

• 38:46Bill Maher?

  Not just not mad, but how about give credit?

• 38:48Speaker 03

  Celebrate, no.

• 38:49Bill Maher?

  If, if they did it, because that certainly has been on the Democratic wish list forever.

• 38:54Speaker 03

  No.

• 38:55Bill Maher?

  As it should be.

• 38:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:56Bill Maher?

  I remember when Obamacare was first getting off the ground, the first thing they did was have the pharmaceutical companies in, because they understood, if we don't have some support from these motherfuckers.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  Right.

• 39:08Bill Maher?

  Nothing is happening after that.

• 39:10Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 39:12Bill Maher?

  And so, people, of course, the purists, this always the cowardiest people in the world because it's so easy to be a purist. We're like, oh, he's making deals with pharma. Yes, he's making deals. That's how it's done because nobody gets everything. And Obamacare, you know, we should have had a public option. We should have, should have, should have.

• 39:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:35Bill Maher?

  And this is what's practical. This is what was possible. The art of the possible is what they say politics is. I mean, it passed by one vote.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Well, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, you know, being an insider looking in where it's like, this person needs this to happen, to say yes to that thing. And, you know, calls are going back and forth. And sometimes you don't even know if it's going to happen until the press, you know, conference and you're... It's a...

• 40:04Bill Maher?

  And you see this because he's like on the phone while you're in the room?

• 40:08Speaker 03

  Well, I see it because I know

• 40:13Speaker 03

  that it's on the table. I mean, it's not a secret, you know? That's not a secret that they... That it was really important to get favored nations drug pricing for Americans.

• 40:24Bill Maher?

  But also politicians famously, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing, talk to their wives. You know, I think, I think Trump talks to Melania a lot. I think she's quite influential. I don't have any like hard evidence of that. I just, first of all, there's just been a huge change you can see in the fact that they're, they like each other again. There was a period where, you know, remember the slapping of the hand?

• 40:52Speaker 03

  But by the way, I read Melania's book and there was a reason for that. The slapping of the hand. Because she said that they were walking on a, you know, pathway on a sidewalk and then it became narrow. And she wanted him to go ahead of her and he tried to hold her hand. And she, you know, was just like, I'm going to walk behind because there's not enough room on the sidewalk. So she talks about that in her book. And she talks about, yeah, but people came after us and said, can you believe this? And it's, it's like, what does she... You know, if she spent time addressing everything that people said. And, and she also talked about...

• 41:35Speaker 03

  You know, she supports a woman's right to choose and she said a lot of things in her book that, of course.

• 41:43Bill Maher?

  I think he talks to her a lot.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:46Bill Maher?

  I think he really it's, I think it's very unreported, and I'm just guessing, but it's what my impression is that he actually goes to her for counsel and that she is a moderating influence, as is Ivanka, probably.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  I would, I would, I mean.

• 42:03Bill Maher?

  You know, it's good to have women around you.

• 42:05Speaker 03

  Good to have women around you.

• 42:09Speaker 03

  That's why I came on your show, Bill, I want to tell you that. It's always good to have women around you. Whether they're wearing leather or red lace, you know what, just let them, let them be.

• 42:20Bill Maher?

  Red clothes are even worse. You know who you Well, all I can think of is Nancy Reagan.

• 42:26Speaker 03

  Oh, whoa, whoa.

• 42:27Bill Maher?

  Republican women

• 42:30Bill Maher?

  iconically, wear red.

• 42:32Speaker 03

  Oh, so even just you looking at a red dress, you're like, no, Republicans.

• 42:35Bill Maher?

  No, this is way before MAGA, I didn't like a red dress. I just feel like a bull, I'm telling you. It's like, oh, you're gonna run at this, because it's like, I don't know.

• 42:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, because look over here.

• 42:46Bill Maher?

  It's just, it's just not a sexy color.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  I think you, I think you might be alone in this.

• 42:52Bill Maher?

  I don't care. Why should I care? We're all alone in our taste.

• 42:57Speaker 03

  We are.

• 42:57Bill Maher?

  And we should be.

• 42:58Speaker 03

  As we should be. We shouldn't be judged for it, like I'm judging you right now.

• 43:01Bill Maher?

  I'm not. No, I mean, it's, color? Who gives a shit? It's like, it's like, it's like saying, why don't you like mustard? Because I don't.

• 43:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. Because I don't, get off my back. I know, I think, I thought about that too when Bobby was announcing that he was running, I really thought, oh, what color am I gonna wear? Because you have to think about.

• 43:25Bill Maher?

  You mean for the announcement?

• 43:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, for his announcement.

• 43:27Bill Maher?

  Oh, there's a lot you have to think about.

• 43:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:29Bill Maher?

  I mean, you, you cannot walk out of the house without your armor on, I'm guessing. I mean, psychologically, am I wrong?

• 43:36Speaker 03

  Oh, you're right.

• 43:37Bill Maher?

  You have to be like

• 43:38Speaker 03

  Ready.

• 43:38Bill Maher?

  Because, you know, the press, I, I know people think they're nice, they're not your friends, and they're not trying to be your friends.

• 43:45Speaker 03

  Uh-uh.

• 43:46Bill Maher?

  Their motto is, I didn't come here to make friends.

• 43:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:49Bill Maher?

  I came here to get a scalp on the wall.

• 43:50Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:51Bill Maher?

  And if it's yours? So be it.

• 43:54Speaker 03

  It's not my problem. Doing my job, man.

• 43:57Bill Maher?

  I'm just a hunter with a rifle and you're just a deer in the headlights.

• 44:01Speaker 03

  And you knew you were walking out in the field.

• 44:04Bill Maher?

  And you knew it.

• 44:05Speaker 03

  You knew it.

• 44:05Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 44:06Speaker 03

  It was a risk you took.

• 44:07Bill Maher?

  Absolutely.

• 44:07Speaker 03

  And how it worked out.

• 44:08Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 44:09Speaker 03

  No, it's true. It's true. You know, when you don't know... I'm not even a politician. You know what I mean? I'm not even a politician and people...

• 44:17Bill Maher?

  Well, when you're the wife of Bobby Kennedy, you are...

• 44:20Speaker 03

  You are it.

• 44:20Bill Maher?

  De facto...

• 44:22Speaker 03

  Involved.

• 44:22Bill Maher?

  To a degree, you are a politician. You just, you know, you can sing the song "What I Did For Love."

• 44:29Speaker 03

  What I did for...

• 44:31Bill Maher?

  What show is that from?

• 44:32Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 44:34Bill Maher?

  It's a great song, right?

• 44:35Speaker 03

  Is it the... You sing it. What I did for love.

• 44:40Bill Maher?

  I can't... I'm too stoned to sing because I can't hear it in my head. No. But it's a great... You know this.

• 44:47Speaker 03

  Yes, yes.

• 44:48Bill Maher?

  You know, what song? It must be from a Broadway show. I feel like it's definitely from a Broadway show.

• 44:55Speaker 03

  Somebody here must know, no?

• 44:56Bill Maher?

  Well, we don't...

• 44:57Speaker 03

  You won't let them in.

• 44:58Bill Maher?

  We're the only ones here.

• 44:59Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 45:00Bill Maher?

  That's what I love about this show. We're the only ones here.

• 45:02Speaker 03

  I know nobody's around.

• 45:03Bill Maher?

  You know, this is... We're going back to the time when people didn't look things up.

• 45:08Speaker 03

  You just have a conversation.

• 45:09Bill Maher?

  If we don't know what Broadway show...

• 45:11Speaker 03

  Then we don't deserve... If we don't know it by now, we don't deserve to know.

• 45:15Bill Maher?

  It will come to us.

• 45:17Speaker 03

  It'll come to us.

• 45:18Bill Maher?

  It will come to us. Let us...

• 45:20Speaker 03

  I know. Now I feel like I need to know. I'm gonna let it go. What's it all about, Alfie? No.

• 45:26Bill Maher?

  But it would fit you. You could sing that song because you've given up a lot for love.

• 45:32Speaker 03

  Well, I think we all do. But this is a very particular situation. This is very specific, but I didn't see coming.

• 45:41Bill Maher?

  Any political wife gives up a lot for love.

• 45:44Speaker 03

  Or husband.

• 45:45Bill Maher?

  Or husband.

• 45:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:48Bill Maher?

  You mean the almost first gentleman, um... Did you know him?

• 45:53Speaker 03

  No, no, Doug.

• 45:54Bill Maher?

  Doug Emhoff?

• 45:56Speaker 03

  That sounds right.

• 45:59Speaker 03

  Oh, I just read the book. I think that's his last name.

• 46:01Bill Maher?

  Somehow, I think Doug Emhoff has heard the words, "That sounds right," about him many times in his life. Anyway, Doug Emhoff, who, look, I'm sure he's a very nice guy. I don't know why I have to bring this up, but we're talking about him. But he was credibly accused of sexual mischievous, shall we say, during the campaign.

• 46:24Speaker 03

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 46:25Bill Maher?

  Really? That never got on your radar?

• 46:27Speaker 03

  No, there was a lot of other crap on my radar.

• 46:31Bill Maher?

  Well, that just shows you, when the left-wing bubble wants to close the wagons and make you not see it. No, look, I'm not saying he did anything that should have disqualified her in any way, but they just did cover it up, and it was very similar to other things that they have blown crazy out of proportion.

• 46:52Bill Maher?

  It seemed credible. It was in Khan, he was on a date, this is before Kamala. He just acted like in a terribly rude, horrible, misogynistic way. And it was just like, no, no, he's her husband, we don't see that, you know? They did him on Saturday Night Live in sketches, and it was just like, oh, kind of boring, you know?

• 47:16Speaker 03

  Poor old sweetheart.

• 47:18Bill Maher?

  Yeah, sweetheart. And like, that thing was just, when they want to disappear a person or an idea.

• 47:28Bill Maher?

  They take that very seriously. They're, I know, you know, Trump disappears people into vans, and I'm not for that. But you can disappear an idea.

• 47:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, especially if you control the media.

• 47:42Bill Maher?

  Yeah, and look, they have a lot of the media too. It's just that we each have our own media.

• 47:47Speaker 03

  Yes, and that's all people watch. They watch the one that they like to hear what they're saying. I know, it was really during the...

• 47:54Bill Maher?

  What do you guys watch?

• 47:56Speaker 03

  You know, I like News Nation. I like News Nation because it...

• 48:02Bill Maher?

  That's my boy Cuomo.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:04Bill Maher?

  Love him.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  I do too.

• 48:05Bill Maher?

  He's been here.

• 48:07Speaker 03

  And I like that they, you know, talk about both sides.

• 48:12Bill Maher?

  Exactly, and the Free Press does that.

• 48:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:16Bill Maher?

  I love them.

• 48:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:18Bill Maher?

  It is very hard to get both sides. I look at, you know, I read the New York Times and the New York Post.

• 48:27Bill Maher?

  Because like, it's amazing. It's only when I read them both, where you're like, okay, now I fully understand the situation.

• 48:33Speaker 03

  No, that's what I have to do when I watch the news. I'll have to watch CNN, and then I'll have to watch Fox News, and then I'll have to figure out, okay, what's up?

• 48:43Bill Maher?

  No, watch my show, because I will give you both in one show.

• 48:47Speaker 03

  By the way, that's what I love about you.

• 48:48Bill Maher?

  Yeah, thank you. I will give you both in one show.

• 48:51Speaker 03

  You're like, here's what's happening. You might hate hearing this, but this is what's happening.

• 48:57Bill Maher?

  Here's the real on both of them. There's a lot to be said about both of them, and, um...

• 49:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it's odd that there's not more of that. It's odd that there's not more of somebody just reporting the news instead of...

• 49:13Bill Maher?

  There's such a...

• 49:14Speaker 03

  A lot of feelings in the news.

• 49:15Bill Maher?

  There's such a cognitive dissonance between the news and our actual lives. Like, if you absolutely could like block out all the news, if you didn't even know who the president was, I would guess your life is pretty sweet. You live in Georgetown, you're married to an exciting guy.

• 49:37Speaker 03

  That is true.

• 49:39Bill Maher?

  He is.

• 49:40Speaker 03

  He is, he's fascinating.

• 49:42Bill Maher?

  And exciting people are gonna be flawed.

• 49:44Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 49:45Bill Maher?

  You know...

• 49:46Speaker 03

  Mine's is true.

• 49:48Bill Maher?

  I mean, Hillary never left Bill. I always thought she was great for that, and she... There was some point along the way, and they asked her when she was talking about it, and she said, "Yeah." You know, I think she literally said the words, "He's a hard dog to keep on the porch."

• 50:03Bill Maher?

  Which is awesome, if it's true. And even if it's not, it's still awesome.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it doesn't sound like something she'd say. She doesn't strike me as somebody who says... Like, my mama used to always say...

• 50:14Bill Maher?

  Well, she did live in Arkansas for a long time. We could look it up, but we're not gonna do it now, because it's just us.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  And, by the time we're done with this, we're gonna not think about the porch and the dog.

• 50:25Bill Maher?

  We'll both be canceled by the time we're done with it.

• 50:28Speaker 03

  That's true. They're not gonna let me back in DC either when we're done with this.

• 50:32Bill Maher?

  She said, Bill, she said, you know, I... I don't like, it was a long time ago. I don't wanna like mangle her words, but the essence of it was, "I've never met a more interesting person in my life." So, you know what?

• 50:48Bill Maher?

  Go fuck yourself. I'm gonna stick with the person who I, you know, there's nobody I'd rather talk to shit about and, and you know, and I think what she was thinking is like, you know, in time, he will calm down.

• 51:01Bill Maher?

  What?

• 51:02Speaker 03

  I like that you're, I like that you spent so much time thinking about what Hillary Clinton, I like that you're really like, you took those words in and you're like,

• 51:09Bill Maher?

  Cause I think it applies to me.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  I know what she's saying.

• 51:12Bill Maher?

  Cause I think it applies to me.

• 51:13Speaker 03

  In what way?

• 51:14Bill Maher?

  You know, I think in time, he will calm down.

• 51:18Speaker 03

  Have you calmed down? You calmed down.

• 51:19Bill Maher?

  Yes, exactly. And there's someone who I give a lot of credit for, for thinking that about me.

• 51:27Speaker 03

  That you calmed down?

• 51:27Bill Maher?

  That I would calm down.

• 51:29Speaker 03

  I never said I thought you would calm down. You're the one that just said that.

• 51:31Bill Maher?

  No, I'm just saying, I, I give a lot of credit to someone who like had that faith. Like, I think at some point, he will calm down.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  But...

• 51:41Bill Maher?

  But you don't wanna be completely calm, cause then you're boring.

• 51:43Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 51:45Bill Maher?

  So, you know, I'd rather have the interesting part. I mean, life's short enough. And like, let's, let's be there for the interesting parts. And like I say, the, reading the news, you can get yourself into a lather of anxiety. But your actual life.

• 52:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:03Bill Maher?

  If you didn't know, you're wearing great clothes. I love the leather.

• 52:09Speaker 03

  Don't back that up now.

• 52:10Bill Maher?

  It does really look, it does really look good.

• 52:12Speaker 03

  No, that was the first thing you said when you sat down. You're like, I don't like women in leather.

• 52:16Bill Maher?

  It's a great outfit.

• 52:17Speaker 03

  You meant like a leather bikini.

• 52:18Bill Maher?

  I, I meant like, uh, yes, like a leather, um, that's...

• 52:23Speaker 03

  Really thinking about this.

• 52:24Bill Maher?

  Okay, but, um...

• 52:26Speaker 03

  No, I do have a good life. I have a great life and, um, I'm...

• 52:30Bill Maher?

  A lot of people do, and, and many don't, and we care about them.

• 52:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:34Bill Maher?

  And that's compassion. And that's like, you know, the Democrat, the Republicans definitely lack a certain chip for compassion. In general, they do.

• 52:42Speaker 03

  Which is strange, because that's what I always thought that was the backbone of.

• 52:48Bill Maher?

  Republicans?

• 52:49Speaker 03

  No, Democrats.

• 52:50Bill Maher?

  Democrats, Democrat, I, I, that is the backbone.

• 52:53Speaker 03

  But it's not feel, but it doesn't, it's not feeling like that.

• 52:55Bill Maher?

  Their head is up their ass on so many things that they, their, their goal is compassion, and they wind up doing the reverse. Great example, we live in California. They were very compassionate about the environment, and so they made it a law that you couldn't like fuck with this, some kind of shrub that was gonna be endangered if you, and it was like brush for the fire. And the fire caused actual more pollution. I don't know if you have one of those little dials in your home that tells you the quality of the air, but this week it was horrible.

• 53:26Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 53:27Bill Maher?

  Yes, I mean, like when it's fine, it's a little man who's green, grinning, and then if it's pretty, if it's getting a little worse, it's like he's yellow and like.

• 53:38Speaker 03

  Uh-oh.

• 53:38Bill Maher?

  And then.

• 53:39Speaker 03

  If it's bad.

• 53:40Bill Maher?

  And this whole week it was just.

• 53:44Bill Maher?

  An orange.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  And what are you supposed to, you're not supposed to.

• 53:49Bill Maher?

  Well, I don't know what that's from.

• 53:50Speaker 03

  Is that, but is that?

• 53:52Bill Maher?

  But the fires, I've read the stats, the pollution from the fires was worse than like any, it worse than all the cars and, and it reversed like 20 years of progress that we did by, you know, fixing the car situation or making it better. I mean, so like, you can just stupid your way to the opposite effect, you know? And there's a lot of that, because it's just very important to these people that they are seen as the good people. So, they just wind up having the reverse effect, I think, often, well-meaning as they are, but it's just, it's just very, very, very important to them to be seen as the good people.

• 54:34Bill Maher?

  And what they're willing to do to get that reputation sometimes is counterproductive.

• 54:38Speaker 03

  It's true. And, and, and they can.

• 54:46Speaker 03

  Be very judgmental.

• 54:47Bill Maher?

  Very.

• 54:48Speaker 03

  I mean, I guess both sides can, but...

• 54:49Bill Maher?

  Oh, of course.

• 54:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:51Bill Maher?

  Absolutely.

• 54:51Speaker 03

  But, but, but it's, if it's somebody who's, who all your life is telling you, "They accept everybody, no matter who they are. They're perfect the way they are." And then suddenly, it's like, "Except, you're, you're not great. He's not great. Don't talk to that person, they're not..."

• 55:11Bill Maher?

  They're very hypocritical about heterosexual relationships that are age inappropriate for the people who are supposed to be, well...

• 55:22Speaker 03

  All accepting.

• 55:23Bill Maher?

  "I was born that way. This is what my body is telling me to do."

• 55:28Speaker 03

  What, do people give you a hard time? You don't have to answer.

• 55:30Bill Maher?

  Yeah, they do. And I don't give a fuck if they do.

• 55:33Speaker 03

  I'm sure you don't.

• 55:34Bill Maher?

  This is what my body is telling me to do.

• 55:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm honoring my body.

• 55:39Bill Maher?

  And by the way, it's what 90% of men's bodies are telling them to do.

• 55:43Speaker 03

  You're just acting on it.

• 55:45Bill Maher?

  Get with a 20-year-old. That's what their bodies are telling them to do.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  If you can.

• 55:49Bill Maher?

  If you can. And, no, no. But I'm just saying, you know, I don't know what I'm saying.

• 55:56Speaker 03

  No, you were saying, you were saying that, that this group is saying that they accept everybody, who they are, and then you're dating a younger woman...

• 56:05Bill Maher?

  They're the most judgmental people in the world. Again...

• 56:09Speaker 03

  And which is, which is okay, but then don't act like you're not.

• 56:11Bill Maher?

  This is what's so frustrating about the times we live in. Like, politically, I am more with the Democrats and the liberals, especially on the issue of, you know, democracy and trying to preserve it.

• 56:26Speaker 03

  Same.

• 56:26Bill Maher?

  But on the other issues, they just, they just get under my skin, the left, so much. Whereas the right, you know, you could have this conversation, and, you know, all my friends on the right, Kid Rock, who brought me to the White House, people like that, Dana White, Trump himself, all these people, you could have these conversations. Charlie Kirk was here. All these people, you could have these conversations and come to that point, I remember when Dana was here, when all of them were here, probably, we get to that point where we're kind of yelling at each other.

• 57:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:01Bill Maher?

  And then, I always take it back down. And, and by the time they leave, we're all great friends.

• 57:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:07Bill Maher?

  And they're okay with that.

• 57:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:08Bill Maher?

  The left isn't that way.

• 57:09Speaker 03

  No.

• 57:10Bill Maher?

  They're like, they're more like, "No..." If you're not with me, I fucking hate you. And you're a deplorable, or you're with the deplorables, or you're talking to the deplorables, or you had dinner with Hitler.

• 57:22Speaker 03

  I know.

• 57:23Bill Maher?

  And it's just like, it's like you people are so, you're such babies. You're so, you're just not sophisticated people. To quote another show on our network, you are not serious people. Serious people talk to each other. And they accept that you're gonna get to this point where you don't agree. Just, again, the marriage thing, it's just this, it's very comparable to politics. There are things you're just gonna go, I don't know.

• 57:50Speaker 03

  Well, agree to disagree.

• 57:51Bill Maher?

  What the fuck, but can we fix this together?

• 57:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:54Bill Maher?

  And can you not hate me? And if you don't hate me, maybe I'll, you know, let's just, you know, let's just, I see that Marjorie, we have Marjorie Taylor Greene on our show Friday.

• 58:05Speaker 03

  That'll be interesting.

• 58:06Bill Maher?

  Very, on Halloween.

• 58:09Speaker 03

  By the way, I've met, I've met Marjorie too, and I, she was very nice. I mean, you know, people are gonna be mad at me for even saying that, but she's like...

• 58:20Bill Maher?

  My line is, everybody's a monster till you talk to them.

• 58:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, no, I'm not saying she's a monster either, but yes.

• 58:28Bill Maher?

  But I'm, she's a monster till you talk to them. And then they're not.

• 58:32Speaker 03

  And then they're not, because they're just people.

• 58:33Bill Maher?

  Because they're people and...

• 58:34Speaker 03

  You know, during the election, I remember when, you know, the primaries, right before the primaries, and it wasn't clear who was gonna be the nominees.

• 58:47Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 58:47Speaker 03

  Especially Republican. Although at one point, it was like, oh, very clear it was gonna be Donald Trump. And I remember talking to one of my friends, who said, can you believe it? And I said, I can. And I said, and I said, and I think what we should be talking about is, half of the country really supports that, really supports him. So what, why do they? And she was like, looked at me like I just had given her a little tablet of poison.

• 59:27Speaker 03

  I said, have I said, have I said something? And she was just like... How could you even say that?

• 59:33Bill Maher?

  I know.

• 59:33Speaker 03

  I was like, oh, well, aren't you curious?

• 59:36Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 59:36Speaker 03

  Why aren't you curious about, are you?

• 59:39Bill Maher?

  Do you think there's any, any part of that answer that might be in the mirror? Is what I would say to the, you know, any part of the answer. Not the whole answer.

• 59:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:49Bill Maher?

  I agree.

• 59:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:50Bill Maher?

  But just any part of an answer that might be in the mirror. Because I remember after the election, and, you know, I won't say who, but a very respected editor, iconic even, and his comment was, "Well, we're not as good at people as we thought we were." "Half of our people are bad people."

• 1:00:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:10Bill Maher?

  I mean, that was the...

• 1:00:11Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:00:11Bill Maher?

  You know, I'm not paraphrasing, but like, that was the takeaway from the election.

• 1:00:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:16Bill Maher?

  "Half of our people are just bad people."

• 1:00:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:18Bill Maher?

  "We're the good people."

• 1:00:19Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:00:20Bill Maher?

  "And we know who the good people are."

• 1:00:21Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:00:22Bill Maher?

  Okay, but...

• 1:00:23Speaker 03

  And, and so everyone knows.

• 1:00:24Bill Maher?

  And what we have to do...

• 1:00:25Speaker 03

  That's me, and I want to make sure that they...

• 1:00:27Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:00:27Speaker 03

  Everybody pay attention.

• 1:00:28Bill Maher?

  And what we have to do is make sure that the good people own and destroy the bad people. See, both sides think that. They don't want to compromise, both sides.

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 1:00:37Bill Maher?

  "I just want to own you and destroy you." Which is a great strategy, left-wingers, until they're the ones who completely own and destroy you, which they now have. I mean, there's no checks on Trump. Okay? So you, you, yeah, yeah, somebody got owned and destroyed, and it was you. So maybe that wasn't the greatest strategy.

• 1:00:59Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:00:59Bill Maher?

  But now they're doubling down on that, you know?

• 1:01:03Speaker 03

  Who said doubling down? The press?

• 1:01:05Bill Maher?

  The woke people who will, you know, the people who thought it was great that Larry said that I was Hitler for having dinner with Hitler or whatever, whatever. I didn't even read it, but I got the gist of it. "I'm Hitler," or "I'm having dinner with Hitler."

• 1:01:18Speaker 03

  "You're having dinner with Hitler, and it's fine, because he's a fun person to hang with."

• 1:01:22Bill Maher?

  To the people who just want to beat the dead horse of, "I hate Trump more than you, and that makes me a better person." Great.

• 1:01:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, there was a lot of that.

• 1:01:30Bill Maher?

  I have the thing with 56 insults, so I think I, I can come to this fight...

• 1:01:35Speaker 03

  Did he read those?

• 1:01:37Bill Maher?

  No, I read some of them to them at the time.

• 1:01:39Speaker 03

  I'm sure he laughed and also said.

• 1:01:42Bill Maher?

  Oh, he did.

• 1:01:42Speaker 03

  Don't say that.

• 1:01:43Bill Maher?

  You know what he said? I was having some of these. You know, another thing, he does laugh.

• 1:01:50Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:01:51Bill Maher?

  He never laughs in public, but he does laugh. I mean, like, he was laughing when I was, you know, dopey, dumb dummy, trouble, terrible student, not considered smart, no mojo, nervous, low-life dummy, so-called comedian, not a smart guy, better than Simon X, feel like a dog, fired like a dog. I mean, the fact that somebody would have in their head, if I tried to come up with 56 different ones, I couldn't do it.

• 1:02:20Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:02:20Bill Maher?

  And he just went, you know, it was different times.

• 1:02:25Speaker 03

  And you said it was yesterday. The last one's from yesterday, and not every time. Yeah. He does have a sense of humor, which, by the way, I'm sure that.

• 1:02:33Bill Maher?

  Also, he said something in the press, not a lot of coverage, but I thought it was very telling and I thought it was very real, about six months ago, when he said, "What people don't get about me is I have no permanent enemies."

• 1:02:48Bill Maher?

  And when you think about it, a lot of the people he fired, he brings back, you know, they've been on the outs, they're on the ins.

• 1:02:57Bill Maher?

  For all his bad points, he's very flexible.

• 1:03:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:02Bill Maher?

  I mean, there's a bad side to that, but like, there's also a good side to that.

• 1:03:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:07Bill Maher?

  And like, I think he's right. I don't think he has permanent enemies. I'm a perfect example. Like, for years, it was just this, you know, he would talk about it at the rallies, like, "There's this lunatic, there's this low-life dummy, this highly overrated, increasingly boring comedian," in quotes.

• 1:03:26Speaker 03

  I'm sure he talks about your ratings.

• 1:03:27Bill Maher?

  "A befuddled mess, his show is dead guy."

• 1:03:31Speaker 03

  Oh, right in the heart.

• 1:03:32Bill Maher?

  And, you know, he says that I'm not gonna give up power. And then, of course, he didn't give up. Didn't faze him at all. The thing he was complaining about actually happened.

• 1:03:46Bill Maher?

  You think he's gonna run in 2020 at 80? They keep talking about, we're gonna find something.

• 1:03:54Speaker 03

  It does seem highly unlikely.

• 1:04:00Speaker 03

  But also.

• 1:04:01Bill Maher?

  How's Bobby getting along with him these days?

• 1:04:03Speaker 03

  He gets along with him really well.

• 1:04:05Bill Maher?

  Still, so there was no, I mean, there was, for a minute, there was talk in the press that some, I forget what it was, but something, maybe it was just they made up a story that Trump was like, oh, he's gonna, but that never, was never close?

• 1:04:19Speaker 03

  No, no. I mean, that's the other thing too about being on the inside and looking at it. They, people create little stories and they, and then they catch fire. And then that's a news cycle. And so you, you really do know what's going on, what's not. And the thing about.

• 1:04:38Bill Maher?

  All they care about is clicks.

• 1:04:40Speaker 03

  That's all they care about.

• 1:04:41Bill Maher?

  That's all.

• 1:04:42Speaker 03

  Does not matter if it's true or not, does not matter.

• 1:04:44Bill Maher?

  Truth is like a distant fourth to clicks.

• 1:04:47Speaker 03

  Does not matter.

• 1:04:47Bill Maher?

  Clicks, yeah.

• 1:04:48Speaker 03

  It's, it's, well, it can drive you insane.

• 1:04:52Bill Maher?

  Do you read it?

• 1:04:55Bill Maher?

  I don't.

• 1:04:55Speaker 03

  It depends on.

• 1:04:56Bill Maher?

  I never read anything.

• 1:04:57Speaker 03

  Day to day, do you not?

• 1:04:58Bill Maher?

  I, I, I don't know if I would even know how to get on any of these things anymore. Really?

• 1:05:04Speaker 03

  I usually don't, I really.

• 1:05:06Bill Maher?

  The likes I get.

• 1:05:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:08Bill Maher?

  And this, I mean, like, sometimes I go home Friday night, I'm like, oh, wow, that's such a great show. And I'm like, yeah, I guess I could go on Twitter, but then I'd see the people who hated it.

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:19Bill Maher?

  So I, you know, like, any like I get is like texting. It's like a personal, the person I know.

• 1:05:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:26Bill Maher?

  And that means a lot to me. It's like, somebody who I respect and know is like, wow, you hit it out of the park. That was a great thing, blah, blah, blah.

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:35Bill Maher?

  And it's, you know, it's not as many likes as you would get, but to me, it's more meaningful.

• 1:05:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, I heard somebody say once, you shouldn't take.

• 1:05:46Speaker 03

  A criticism from somebody you wouldn't take advice from. And it's like, yeah.

• 1:05:52Bill Maher?

  Wow.

• 1:05:53Speaker 03

  That makes sense. So you have people that don't know you commenting on how awful you are and it's like, oh.

• 1:06:00Bill Maher?

  You should do a show. That's what you should do now.

• 1:06:03Speaker 03

  What kind of show?

• 1:06:03Bill Maher?

  You know what? Fuck, fuck the acting thing. You know, you are never going to convince the 90% of the cowards in this town who I'm telling you, very talented, not that bright, and they're very afraid, they're very afraid of being on the wrong side of an issue.

• 1:06:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:22Bill Maher?

  So it's just easier just to like, just get behind Professor Mark Ruffalo. He knows everything about Israel. You know, so just do that. And you're always going to be safe doing that. There's always going to be a safe attacking you. That was always going to be the safe choice, because you're on the wrong team now. So just attacking you is very safe. We don't have to look into it more, and we don't want to, because we're actors. We're not readers, okay? If we were readers, we'd be different categories. We're actors, okay? We read the part that makes us sound good. And if that part is saying, "We must stop genocide," yeah, well, you don't know what genocide is. You got your facts wrong. You don't know your history. You get everything from TikTok. But I get it. It's a better speech.

• 1:07:07Bill Maher?

  It's a better speech than 400 million women around the world can't dress the way they would like to. I mean, couldn't you imagine just not having the choice to dress the way you want to? Taking leather out of the situation.

• 1:07:20Speaker 03

  No, I would be, where would I be without my leather pants? No, it's, it is hard to imagine what's going on in some countries. Really hard to imagine.

• 1:07:30Bill Maher?

  I think that's the way to, I just really, I think that's the way to frame that issue, to get women involved. Can you imagine living in a society where you did not have the freedom to choose what you wanted to wear?

• 1:07:45Speaker 03

  I mean, by the way. I, it's more so not having the freedom to get an education.

• 1:07:54Bill Maher?

  Two?

• 1:07:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, I mean, there are a lot of things we could put on this list.

• 1:07:59Bill Maher?

  There are more places and countries where a woman can get an education. They're not all Afghanistan where you can't. That's the far end of the spectrum. But where you also still couldn't dress the way you wanted to.

• 1:08:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:13Bill Maher?

  You certainly couldn't leave your pretty blunt hair showing.

• 1:08:17Speaker 03

  I know, it's really hard to.

• 1:08:19Bill Maher?

  It's just a choice. I feel like that should be a choice. The fact that, you know, some on the left have taken the, you know, the head covering as a sign of liberation. It's like, wow, your head is really up your ass. If you think that's a sign of liberation, you know.

• 1:08:36Speaker 03

  I almost did a spit take.

• 1:08:38Bill Maher?

  What?

• 1:08:38Speaker 03

  I almost did a spit take.

• 1:08:40Bill Maher?

  And ruined that leather.

• 1:08:43Speaker 03

  I ruined my leather.

• 1:08:45Bill Maher?

  At least it wasn't red leather.

• 1:08:46Speaker 03

  Oh, that would drive you crazy. What if you walked in and it was like red leather head to toe? You would have walked right out.

• 1:08:54Bill Maher?

  Yeah, but if the girl was hot enough, I could forgive it.

• 1:08:56Speaker 03

  You'd get over it, you'd be like.

• 1:08:58Bill Maher?

  You guys are like that.

• 1:08:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like, okay, tonight's.

• 1:09:01Bill Maher?

  I did a whole bit about like, you know, especially when you're younger, like, no matter, if you wanted to get laid, no matter what a woman said, you didn't. I steeled myself to some really bad personalities way too late in life.

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  Well, let me ask you this. For how long can you do that? Let's say you meet a girl and she's really hot, you're very attracted. And let's say you have sex with her on the first night.

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  Oh, I like where you're going.

• 1:09:32Speaker 03

  So if, if like, if the pillow talk is, you realize, whoa.

• 1:09:40Speaker 03

  Whoa, we do not have anything in common. Then are you still the next night like, hey, you up?

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:49Bill Maher?

  No, you're describing a different guy.

• 1:09:52Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:09:52Bill Maher?

  Not, look, I never got married, and that's for a reason.

• 1:09:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:56Bill Maher?

  Some people, you know, don't get married because they don't like girls at all. Some people don't get married because they like them a lot.

• 1:10:03Speaker 03

  That's your category.

• 1:10:04Bill Maher?

  Right. But I was never really like that first-night guy.

• 1:10:10Speaker 03

  Really?

• 1:10:11Bill Maher?

  I'd have liked to be.

• 1:10:14Speaker 03

  You just didn't have the option? You didn't have the game?

• 1:10:15Bill Maher?

  I mean, it's happened sometimes, but first of all, when it could have happened more, I was stupid about, as men are. Like, I did not really understand who I was very well.

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• 1:11:59Speaker 03

  Were you famous?

• 1:12:00Bill Maher?

  No, I mean...

• 1:12:02Speaker 03

  Okay, this is when you were not famous. But did it make a difference after you...

• 1:12:07Bill Maher?

  But I'm still not famous to any woman usually under 30.

• 1:12:12Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 1:12:13Bill Maher?

  They have no idea who I am, which is great.

• 1:12:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, you have to work harder.

• 1:12:18Bill Maher?

  Well, no, it's just like...

• 1:12:21Speaker 03

  You have to say, "You wanna watch my show?"

• 1:12:25Bill Maher?

  That sounds like it's gonna be good.

• 1:12:27Speaker 03

  It isn't.

• 1:12:28Bill Maher?

  But it never is because then they're... I mean, people who are like fans, then they're like too nervous.

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:12:33Bill Maher?

  When you go to have sex, they're like, they're just frozen. I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah, it's happened more than once. They're just like, they're too like...

• 1:12:43Speaker 03

  They're like, "I can't believe I'm doing it with Bill Maher."

• 1:12:47Bill Maher?

  I guess so. But it's like...

• 1:12:49Speaker 03

  And then that makes you feel weird.

• 1:12:50Bill Maher?

  It's so much better to have somebody like... First of all, yes, you know they like you for you.

• 1:12:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:12:57Bill Maher?

  And they're not like overwhelmed by the experience.

• 1:13:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:00Bill Maher?

  Which is, you know, which is not... You know, that's not exactly a pussy wet there, being overwhelmed, you know, so...

• 1:13:07Speaker 03

  I like that you wanna keep women underwhelmed. That's what I'm hearing you say.

• 1:13:12Bill Maher?

  Underwhelmed by my celebrity, overwhelmed by who I am, you know.

• 1:13:17Speaker 03

  I thought you were gonna say your skills.

• 1:13:18Bill Maher?

  No, but I'm not out there. I'm not... Look, that's not, that's not who I even am anymore. I'm not, I'm not out there trying to find women. I'm totally not.

• 1:13:26Speaker 03

  You're not?

• 1:13:27Bill Maher?

  No.

• 1:13:27Speaker 03

  But there was a day when you were.

• 1:13:30Bill Maher?

  Definitely there was.

• 1:13:31Speaker 03

  A few days.

• 1:13:32Bill Maher?

  Many days, yes.

• 1:13:33Speaker 03

  And so you have calmed down, settled down.

• 1:13:38Bill Maher?

  Totally, and you know, I don't like to reveal...

• 1:13:40Speaker 03

  I wish you would.

• 1:13:41Bill Maher?

  Too many specifics about my real life. I don't think that's ever productive in show business, but I'll just say, I'm extremely happy. I'm very extremely happy, so that's all good.

• 1:13:54Speaker 03

  You don't have to answer this question. Are you extremely happy because you have someone that you like to hang out with?

• 1:14:00Bill Maher?

  Ah, yes, that one.

• 1:14:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. That's so... See, isn't that... It's so nice.

• 1:14:07Bill Maher?

  It's so nice. Oh, I mean, I...

• 1:14:09Speaker 03

  It's like you hit on different, on different levels, not just like one...

• 1:14:13Bill Maher?

  I hit on different women.

• 1:14:16Speaker 03

  But now you're not.

• 1:14:17Bill Maher?

  No.

• 1:14:18Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:14:19Bill Maher?

  No, I don't wanna, and I'm too old to, and, um... No, everything came out in the wash, but, um... You know, I have probably more regrets about that part of my life than any other part of my life. Because the fact that the stupidity reigned so late.

• 1:14:43Bill Maher?

  Just your look.

• 1:14:43Speaker 03

  I'm not, no, I'm taking it in.

• 1:14:45Bill Maher?

  I know.

• 1:14:46Speaker 03

  I'm taking it in.

• 1:14:46Bill Maher?

  It said it all like that.

• 1:14:47Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 1:14:48Bill Maher?

  I didn't need any comment.

• 1:14:49Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 1:14:49Bill Maher?

  I, I'm just like, no, no.

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  No, Bill, I was just thinking because.

• 1:14:53Bill Maher?

  But it does.

• 1:14:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:55Bill Maher?

  It's like it does, like.

• 1:14:56Speaker 03

  You want to have somebody, it's nice to find somebody who, who you can share your experiences with.

• 1:15:05Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:15:06Speaker 03

  And if it doesn't, if you don't find the right person, then it's not, then it doesn't work. Then you might as well just fuck around, you know what I mean?

• 1:15:16Bill Maher?

  There's only two real pleasures in life.

• 1:15:18Speaker 03

  I can't wait.

• 1:15:21Bill Maher?

  I think.

• 1:15:23Speaker 03

  Spaghetti.

• 1:15:24Bill Maher?

  There's do.

• 1:15:25Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:15:26Bill Maher?

  Is doing what we're doing. Just talking, having an awesome time, connecting mentally, like having a couple of drinks, smoking and just, there's just this, nothing like mental ping pong.

• 1:15:36Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 1:15:37Bill Maher?

  And fucking. Everything else is kind of secondary. I mean, yes.

• 1:15:41Speaker 03

  You're just filling time till you get to do it again.

• 1:15:43Bill Maher?

  Well, I'm just, no, there's something wonderful about, you know, taking a bath and snuggling up and watching a movie and like, you know, bowling.

• 1:15:51Speaker 03

  Because it's very intimate because you don't do it with.

• 1:15:53Bill Maher?

  Having dinner with friends, but it's, nothing is as good as this or fucking.

• 1:15:57Speaker 03

  Because it's intimate, you're, because you're truly connecting with somebody.

• 1:16:00Bill Maher?

  I've said to people, I've said, I, I, I hate that I have to decide between kissing you and talking to you.

• 1:16:06Speaker 03

  Oh, that's very sweet.

• 1:16:08Bill Maher?

  And sexy.

• 1:16:09Speaker 03

  That's a very sweet.

• 1:16:10Bill Maher?

  But it's true.

• 1:16:11Speaker 03

  That's a very.

• 1:16:12Bill Maher?

  I mean, that's been true.

• 1:16:13Speaker 03

  That's a very sweet sentiment.

• 1:16:15Bill Maher?

  Well, try getting it though. I mean, it's not like that grows on trees.

• 1:16:19Speaker 03

  No, I know.

• 1:16:20Bill Maher?

  That feeling with someone and having that with someone.

• 1:16:22Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 1:16:23Bill Maher?

  And sometimes you have it and then it, then you don't have it and, you know, I mean, it's like, that's a feeling that's, that's a high you're always chasing.

• 1:16:30Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 1:16:31Bill Maher?

  So if you catch it.

• 1:16:32Speaker 03

  You need to, you should hold on. You should.

• 1:16:36Bill Maher?

  Well, you shouldn't fuck it up.

• 1:16:37Speaker 03

  You shouldn't fuck it up.

• 1:16:38Bill Maher?

  That's, I mean, that's what men's usual trip up is.

• 1:16:42Speaker 03

  I love to fuck it up.

• 1:16:45Speaker 03

  They don't, they can't think ahead.

• 1:16:47Bill Maher?

  We don't want to.

• 1:16:48Speaker 03

  I know, you don't, you're not trying to.

• 1:16:49Bill Maher?

  We're not trying to.

• 1:16:50Speaker 03

  But.

• 1:16:51Bill Maher?

  At least give us that.

• 1:16:52Speaker 03

  I will give you that. You're not trying to.

• 1:16:54Bill Maher?

  We're not trying to. We can't help.

• 1:16:56Speaker 03

  The ones in, well, you're not thinking.

• 1:16:59Bill Maher?

  Period.

• 1:17:00Speaker 03

  Two steps ahead, like, oh.

• 1:17:02Bill Maher?

  Two.

• 1:17:03Speaker 03

  If I do this thing, then this thing might happen, yeah.

• 1:17:06Bill Maher?

  That's true. I must say, um, in my second century of, second half century of life.

• 1:17:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:14Bill Maher?

  Post 50, I would say, around there. I feel like I did finally absorb that one.

• 1:17:22Bill Maher?

  Like, there is a tomorrow.

• 1:17:24Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:17:24Bill Maher?

  Like, would it be great to fuck this person? Yes. But then, what her, what are her expectations going to be?

• 1:17:32Speaker 03

  And tomorrow.

• 1:17:33Bill Maher?

  And even if I said to her in words, here's a sophisticated thing I learned late. Even if I said to her in words that, you know, I am who I am and this is not gonna be blah, blah, blah.

• 1:17:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:46Bill Maher?

  The kind of growth that you, you know, would hope would have happened earlier.

• 1:17:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, a lot of times that happens, you don't have kids, right?

• 1:17:57Bill Maher?

  Not to my knowledge.

• 1:17:59Speaker 03

  But call in if you're watching. Um.

• 1:18:03Bill Maher?

  You do a lot of these bit takes. I'm gonna tell you, you and I are gonna be hosting a morning show at some point. I have a feeling that I am gonna be the richest.

• 1:18:11Speaker 03

  No one is.

• 1:18:12Bill Maher?

  To your Kathy Lee at some point.

• 1:18:14Speaker 03

  No one's gonna learn one thing, but we will tell it like it is.

• 1:18:17Bill Maher?

  I am gonna, I'm telling you, that is a show.

• 1:18:21Speaker 03

  Okay, let's do it.

• 1:18:22Bill Maher?

  If you think you had a good TV husband before.

• 1:18:24Speaker 03

  I.

• 1:18:25Bill Maher?

  I'll give you a better one.

• 1:18:26Speaker 03

  I'm. Now you're talking a language. You really know how to talk to women.

• 1:18:32Bill Maher?

  That, I think that's what you should go to. Because they're not going to give you a break in this town. They're just fucking assholes. They are. They really are. And, um, they're just, it just, they're just such a bunch of fucking teenage girls who don't want you to sit at their lunch table. And I just don't think that's going to change.

• 1:18:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, you know, it's been.

• 1:18:56Bill Maher?

  But you could do a show.

• 1:18:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:58Bill Maher?

  You know, I mean, you could, you'd be really great at that.

• 1:19:03Speaker 03

  All right.

• 1:19:03Bill Maher?

  You got the wardrobe. I love this. This is a perfect.

• 1:19:06Speaker 03

  See.

• 1:19:07Bill Maher?

  I'm not joking.

• 1:19:07Speaker 03

  It's because you're so high.

• 1:19:09Bill Maher?

  This is a great.

• 1:19:09Speaker 03

  No, because when you so, when we started out, you were like.

• 1:19:11Bill Maher?

  I'm just one guy. Don't go by me. This is a great, if I was the producer, I'd be like.

• 1:19:16Speaker 03

  Wear that outfit.

• 1:19:16Bill Maher?

  This is a great first show outfit.

• 1:19:19Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:19:19Bill Maher?

  This is exactly what we want to be selling to the people. Because you want somebody, you're like, I feel like women's TV has been like, either an overweight lesbian, you know, somebody who is not threatening to us at all.

• 1:19:35Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:19:35Bill Maher?

  Or Tyra Banks. I feel like we need something in the middle.

• 1:19:39Speaker 03

  In between. That's not, you don't have to be a supermodel.

• 1:19:41Bill Maher?

  But, you know, like somebody who's.

• 1:19:43Speaker 03

  A sensible.

• 1:19:44Bill Maher?

  Well, she's like, like, she is the aspiration for us at that age.

• 1:19:50Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:19:50Bill Maher?

  If we could be as hot as her at that age, we've, you know, we're, we're really far. Because we're watching daytime TV. So, you know, we're obviously also eating Funyuns. But, okay. But, you know, but somebody who can talk, and you know, you've had some pain in your life. They love that. You know, you've had pain. They love that.

• 1:20:10Speaker 03

  Well.

• 1:20:11Bill Maher?

  And that, you know, you're a man.

• 1:20:13Speaker 03

  But you're still here.

• 1:20:13Bill Maher?

  And you're still here.

• 1:20:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's the.

• 1:20:15Bill Maher?

  Exactly.

• 1:20:16Speaker 03

  Like you've done, you've been through some shit.

• 1:20:18Bill Maher?

  And that's when you go into What I Did For Love.

• 1:20:20Speaker 03

  What I Did For Love.

• 1:20:23Bill Maher?

  That's it.

• 1:20:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:20:24Bill Maher?

  That's it.

• 1:20:25Speaker 03

  What I, what is that from?

• 1:20:27Bill Maher?

  It's a great song. Who sang it?

• 1:20:28Speaker 03

  What's it all about Alfie? No? Wait, was that a Broadway show?

• 1:20:32Bill Maher?

  No, no, no, no. Much later than Alfie.

• 1:20:35Speaker 03

  Is it, was that a Broadway show? No. Was that a musical? No. Yeah. What's it all about?

• 1:20:40Bill Maher?

  No. I think it's, it's a, no, it's a movie. They remade it badly. But the original was Michael Caine. Alfie.

• 1:20:49Speaker 03

  Oh, Alfie.

• 1:20:49Bill Maher?

  He's a cad.

• 1:20:51Speaker 03

  He is?

• 1:20:51Bill Maher?

  Yes. He's a, he's a bounder.

• 1:20:54Speaker 03

  I didn't know that.

• 1:20:55Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that's who Alfie is. He.

• 1:20:57Speaker 03

  Oh, Alfie. I thought you meant Michael Caine.

• 1:20:58Bill Maher?

  He has sexual intercourse and relations with women with no intention of making an honorable Mrs. out of them.

• 1:21:06Speaker 03

  Scoundrel.

• 1:21:06Bill Maher?

  He's a scoundrel.

• 1:21:07Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:21:08Bill Maher?

  And, you know, that's.

• 1:21:10Speaker 03

  But he falls in love?

• 1:21:11Bill Maher?

  This, uh, what's it all about Alfie? I don't know.

• 1:21:17Speaker 03

  I don't know what happens.

• 1:21:18Bill Maher?

  It's, it's questioning that sort of scoundrel life and saying, you know, like, get in line.

• 1:21:24Speaker 03

  Is it worth it? Oh, the thing that was saying, gonna say, what, what was talking about you? You know, realizing, oh, tomorrow, there is a tomorrow. There might be consequences. I should think, think about that for a moment before I do this one thing.

• 1:21:39Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:21:40Speaker 03

  I think a lot of people learn that lesson when they have kids. Because before you have kids, you don't care what you're, you don't care what you're doing.

• 1:21:49Bill Maher?

  But Bobby's got plenty of kids.

• 1:21:50Speaker 03

  Bobby's got a lot of kids, yes.

• 1:21:52Bill Maher?

  What's his kids?

• 1:21:53Speaker 03

  What's his, what's his excuse?

• 1:21:56Speaker 03

  Let's call him.

• 1:21:56Bill Maher?

  You can't blame that on the kids.

• 1:21:57Speaker 03

  He's on the phone right now, Bobby. Let's go to line two, Bobby.

• 1:22:00Bill Maher?

  You can't blame that one on kids.

• 1:22:01Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 1:22:04Bill Maher?

  But I know what you mean, kids.

• 1:22:05Speaker 03

  Right, because then you think, you, you're, because you're thinking about somebody else.

• 1:22:12Bill Maher?

  Of course.

• 1:22:12Speaker 03

  It's like, the first time in your life you start thinking about somebody else before you think about yourself. So even what you're talking about, that's what you're doing now. You are in your second century, no, second half century.

• 1:22:26Bill Maher?

  Half century.

• 1:22:27Speaker 03

  You are thinking about somebody else. Bill, this is very sweet.

• 1:22:34Bill Maher?

  No, I, actually.

• 1:22:36Speaker 03

  No, it's not.

• 1:22:37Bill Maher?

  I was thinking about me.

• 1:22:39Speaker 03

  Having to.

• 1:22:40Bill Maher?

  I mean, yes, I, sometimes I'm thinking about another person, that's true. I'm being facetious. But I'm also thinking about self-preservation. The last thing in the world I want is a woman who is mad at me.

• 1:22:53Speaker 03

  Really? It seems like you would, you would be able to take that pretty well. No?

• 1:23:02Bill Maher?

  I have, many times, and it's still not, it's still not enjoyable.

• 1:23:08Speaker 03

  No, well, that's sweet. That says something.

• 1:23:10Bill Maher?

  You know the old Shakespearean phrase, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

• 1:23:15Speaker 03

  So it's not so much about the feelings, it's about the wrath of the woman.

• 1:23:18Bill Maher?

  That is a big part of it, I'm not gonna lie, why?

• 1:23:21Speaker 03

  It's not, you're not like.

• 1:23:22Bill Maher?

  Well, it's both, it's both. It's one of those nice things that is both. You're doing the right thing, but you're also doing the right thing for you. Because, and it's so easy, like, how do you get women not to hate you or be mad at you? Don't lie to them. Ever.

• 1:23:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:39Bill Maher?

  About anything. Don't take them down a primrose path and then like ghost or or just not be that guy who they thought you were. Don't pretend, you know, you, oh, you know, maybe I would want to get married someday. No, just be honest from the beginning.

• 1:23:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:56Bill Maher?

  And I.

• 1:23:57Speaker 03

  I like that you never got married.

• 1:23:59Bill Maher?

  I like it too.

• 1:24:00Speaker 03

  I mean, I think.

• 1:24:02Bill Maher?

  You like it.

• 1:24:03Speaker 03

  I think it's good.

• 1:24:04Bill Maher?

  Let me tell you, sister.

• 1:24:06Speaker 03

  I can tell you everything. I get rid of them.

• 1:24:09Bill Maher?

  And you did. You know, I love it the way we, I'm telling you, we are destined for a morning talk show. Unscripted by Cheryl Hines. It's so, I read it while this interview was going on. That's what a badass I am. I can read and do an interview with the speed writer. Oh, it's got pictures.

• 1:24:26Speaker 03

  It does have pictures.

• 1:24:27Bill Maher?

  Oh, now I'm fucking sold.

• 1:24:28Speaker 03

  It has pictures.

• 1:24:30Bill Maher?

  Wow.

• 1:24:30Speaker 03

  No, because.

• 1:24:31Bill Maher?

  Look at these pictures. Wow, you're always with good looking men.

• 1:24:33Speaker 03

  I know. Those were my, my gay husbands.

• 1:24:37Bill Maher?

  Your gay husband. Stop it. Really?

• 1:24:39Speaker 03

  Paul and Eddie, yeah.

• 1:24:40Bill Maher?

  Wow, there's Richard Gere.

• 1:24:41Speaker 03

  I know. I talk about Richard Gere for a moment in the, in the book.

• 1:24:45Bill Maher?

  So you fucked all these guys?

• 1:24:46Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. No, they were all, I read them what, yeah, as you're flipping through. It starts with.

• 1:24:54Bill Maher?

  Hey, what's this Jodie Foster at the end?

• 1:24:57Speaker 03

  You know, she ranked. She was up there.

• 1:25:02Speaker 03

  One of the, I feel like I've known you for a long time, although I, we haven't really done.

• 1:25:09Bill Maher?

  We've been in the same circles.

• 1:25:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, we've been in the same circle. And we were at a, um, maybe a Vanity Fair party after the Oscars.

• 1:25:16Bill Maher?

  Sure.

• 1:25:16Speaker 03

  And we were both at the bar at the same time.

• 1:25:21Speaker 03

  I don't know why, Bill, I don't know why I asked you.

• 1:25:26Speaker 03

  Because this was the rumor for so long. Was that you would masturbate into a sock before?

• 1:25:33Bill Maher?

  A sock, I love the way things get embellished. They did print an article in, do you remember, there was a magazine called?

• 1:25:44Speaker 03

  I'll never forget that magazine we called.

• 1:25:47Bill Maher?

  I know, Entertainment Weekly.

• 1:25:50Speaker 03

  I think it's still happening, no?

• 1:25:52Bill Maher?

  Happening is definitely not the word to describe whatever's going on with Entertainment Weekly. Happening is not it. You think that still exists in some form?

• 1:26:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:26:04Bill Maher?

  Well, it existed when there was newsstands.

• 1:26:07Speaker 03

  Right, right, and you would walk by the newsstand.

• 1:26:10Bill Maher?

  I haven't seen anyone refer to it, or seen it itself, in, I don't know.

• 1:26:15Speaker 03

  And I also don't know.

• 1:26:16Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:26:16Speaker 03

  If that's true.

• 1:26:17Bill Maher?

  Anyway.

• 1:26:18Speaker 03

  That it still exists.

• 1:26:18Bill Maher?

  They printed, it was, you know, when magazines were, you know.

• 1:26:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, people would pick them up at the airport before they got on.

• 1:26:25Bill Maher?

  Exactly, it was like People Magazine just for the, I don't know how it was different. Anyway, I guess it had the box office results. Anyway, I, they said that I masturbated before the show in the dressing room.

• 1:26:39Speaker 03

  Why did they say that?

• 1:26:40Bill Maher?

  Because I did.

• 1:26:42Speaker 03

  How would they know this?

• 1:26:44Bill Maher?

  Not often, but.

• 1:26:45Speaker 03

  Not often, but you had.

• 1:26:47Bill Maher?

  You know what, here's the thing.

• 1:26:48Speaker 03

  Tell me.

• 1:26:49Bill Maher?

  This is the 90s.

• 1:26:50Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:26:51Bill Maher?

  I mean, we taped every day.

• 1:26:54Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:26:54Bill Maher?

  Or three days a week, or something like that, you know, it was an everyday show. Politically incorrect, the sign right behind you.

• 1:26:59Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:27:00Bill Maher?

  And, I mean, I was just like a wild person then. I mean, and I would be out at night. You know, I would be, I would be, I would, you know, and be sometimes.

• 1:27:10Speaker 03

  Oh, I see. So you might be talking to an Entertainment Weekly reporter.

• 1:27:16Bill Maher?

  I think what it was, was, I'd be, come in hungover, not hungover. But just like, did I get enough sleep? No, because I was out late, drinking and clubbing and whatever.

• 1:27:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:30Bill Maher?

  And then, you know, this wasn't a lot, but yeah, sometimes I was. And so like, I could always get a nap if I jerked off first.

• 1:27:41Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:27:42Bill Maher?

  And I think one time I forgot to remove the jergens from the.

• 1:27:47Speaker 03

  Dressing room? No.

• 1:27:49Bill Maher?

  Yes, from the toilet area.

• 1:27:51Speaker 03

  Oh, okay, so you did it in the bathroom, that's reasonable.

• 1:27:57Bill Maher?

  That's what I said to Bill Clinton after the Monica Lewinsky scandal. You did it reasonably. Yeah, so.

• 1:28:03Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:28:04Bill Maher?

  So what?

• 1:28:04Speaker 03

  Oh, so somebody.

• 1:28:05Bill Maher?

  You got me. So I think somebody dropped, somebody dropped a dime.

• 1:28:10Speaker 03

  And said, I think that this.

• 1:28:12Bill Maher?

  Well, I mean, it is damning evidence. Why else would you have Jergens in the toilet area?

• 1:28:18Speaker 03

  I mean, moisturized hands?

• 1:28:22Speaker 03

  If you're a lady, you know.

• 1:28:24Bill Maher?

  Cheryl, I can't sell that. I just can't sell that.

• 1:28:27Speaker 03

  Okay, but where does this?

• 1:28:28Bill Maher?

  It's just better to admit it.

• 1:28:29Speaker 03

  Where does the sock come in? You don't have to answer that.

• 1:28:31Bill Maher?

  They just made that up because that's what they do. Writer's embellishment.

• 1:28:35Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:28:35Bill Maher?

  It was a sock.

• 1:28:37Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:28:37Bill Maher?

  And I was thinking about Putin, you know, whatever they want to say. Of course, they're gonna, but I'm telling you the truth and owning it.

• 1:28:45Speaker 03

  I believe you. But that night, I said, I asked you about that and you said, yeah, I do that sometimes. Or whatever.

• 1:28:56Bill Maher?

  Yeah, see, I'm consistent.

• 1:28:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was very refreshing. And then I asked you, I shouldn't say this either, but I had this, like, this dress on and my hair was sort of bouffant and like not, I wasn't really, wasn't the bouffant hair I was hoping for that night.

• 1:29:15Bill Maher?

  Bouffant, like Priscilla Presley?

• 1:29:18Speaker 03

  Kind of, yeah.

• 1:29:19Bill Maher?

  Wow.

• 1:29:19Speaker 03

  Well, no, that sounds exciting. No, it was more like, like, you know, more of a political thing.

• 1:29:30Bill Maher?

  Not like Cameron Diaz jizz in the hair thing?

• 1:29:33Speaker 03

  No, this is more like, who could I, oh, like, maybe Sarah Palin? Like, really, done.

• 1:29:45Bill Maher?

  Okay, sure. Beehive.

• 1:29:47Speaker 03

  It's sort of beehivey and I said, and I said to you, we were waiting for our drinks after I asked you about the sock. Why would I ask you about the sock?

• 1:29:56Bill Maher?

  Icebreaker.

• 1:29:57Speaker 03

  Icebreaker, and I said.

• 1:30:00Bill Maher?

  Hey, I hear you're so horny. You can't wait for nighttime and you do it in a sock in your dressing room.

• 1:30:06Speaker 03

  And I said.

• 1:30:07Bill Maher?

  Here's my card.

• 1:30:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, so nice to meet you. I know, why would I ask you that? I don't know. But I think I must have met you before that moment. But I don't know where, but anyway, I said.

• 1:30:21Speaker 03

  I said, "Do I look like a senator's wife with this hair?"

• 1:30:25Bill Maher?

  Little did you know.

• 1:30:26Speaker 03

  Who knew?

• 1:30:27Bill Maher?

  Wow, what foreshadowing.

• 1:30:28Speaker 03

  I know. And you said, "If you're asking me if your..." I'll say breasts. Not what you said. If you're asking if your breasts look great, they do. You look great. And I was like, "Oh, thank you." Asking about my hair, but...

• 1:30:46Bill Maher?

  Cheryl...

• 1:30:46Speaker 03

  I'll lean into that.

• 1:30:48Bill Maher?

  I can't believe at this point we have to make this statement clear, but I'm always an honest person. If your tits look great, I'm gonna say your tits look great.

• 1:30:56Speaker 03

  That's exactly what you said.

• 1:30:57Bill Maher?

  If the left is driving me crazy, I'm gonna call them out. If Trump is doing crazy shit, I'm gonna call him out. But, you know, tits are no exception.

• 1:31:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31:06Bill Maher?

  If your tits look great, and they do, I am not going to hide it from the public. That is my choice.

• 1:31:12Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:31:12Bill Maher?

  That is my declaration. That is my pledge. That is why I'm a one-issue candidate, running for the mayor of New York City.

• 1:31:19Speaker 03

  Tits, Bill.

• 1:31:20Bill Maher?

  I'm gonna come in at the last minute and unseat Mandami on an issue of if your tits look great, let's say it.

• 1:31:26Speaker 03

  Let's just say it.

• 1:31:27Bill Maher?

  Let's just fucking say it.

• 1:31:29Speaker 03

  And by the way, I was like, "Okay."

• 1:31:31Bill Maher?

  That will be the name of our talk show. Your Tits Look Great.

• 1:31:34Speaker 03

  Now get out there and face the world.

• 1:31:37Bill Maher?

  So I hear you had a crazy weekend with your new husband, David Ellison.

• 1:31:47Speaker 03

  Bill, I do think we could cover a lot of ground and territory. But do you wanna get up early in the morning?

• 1:31:53Bill Maher?

  Of course not. We'd have to shoot it the night...

• 1:31:55Speaker 03

  We'd have to shoot it the night before. We could do it at like 3:00 in the morning.

• 1:31:58Bill Maher?

  You think people know what's going on in the world? They care? You could do a show that's a year late, and it would...

• 1:32:05Speaker 03

  It would hold up.

• 1:32:06Bill Maher?

  Exactly. No, actually, that would be a great twist on the morning show. Is that we do it the night before.

• 1:32:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. Here's what we think is gonna happen tomorrow.

• 1:32:16Bill Maher?

  Yeah, and it's not gonna be that different. It's not gonna be that different.

• 1:32:19Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:32:20Bill Maher?

  How often does, does, you know, an amazing event

• 1:32:26Speaker 03

  Happen from 3:00 to 6:00?

• 1:32:27Bill Maher?

  At 8:12 in the morning?

• 1:32:29Speaker 03

  Never.

• 1:32:30Bill Maher?

  Oh, wait. 9/11. All right.

• 1:32:33Speaker 03

  Wow, you really brought it down. What time did that happen?

• 1:32:38Bill Maher?

  8:12. I mean...

• 1:32:40Speaker 03

  How do you know that?

• 1:32:41Bill Maher?

  I just remember it.

• 1:32:42Speaker 03

  Do you remember numbers like that?

• 1:32:44Bill Maher?

  I do. I remember birthdays.

• 1:32:47Speaker 03

  That's interesting.

• 1:32:48Bill Maher?

  I feel bad because now people can like easily remember birthdays because like it's in your phone or some shit.

• 1:32:54Speaker 03

  Reminder.

• 1:32:55Bill Maher?

  And all those years, I did it for everybody. For some reason, I'm not good at math. I'm not a science person.

• 1:33:00Speaker 03

  Really?

• 1:33:00Bill Maher?

  No, but numbers stick in my head. Like I will...

• 1:33:06Bill Maher?

  That was funny.

• 1:33:06Speaker 03

  That was god.

• 1:33:07Bill Maher?

  But, um, exactly. But I remember like, um, like dates. Like you can say, oh, remember that thing? And if, and there are a lot of times I will not remember at all. But if I do, I could say, oh yeah, that was April 7th.

• 1:33:22Speaker 03

  But because you...

• 1:33:23Bill Maher?

  Dunno why.

• 1:33:24Speaker 03

  Do you visualize the numbers?

• 1:33:25Bill Maher?

  No, I'm not like crazy like that. I just somehow remembered. I'm a history person, that's why. Maybe I'm a history major. And I love history and I know...

• 1:33:34Speaker 03

  So you know all the dates of battles and the wars?

• 1:33:36Bill Maher?

  I know everything. Everything about history. Ask me anything about history and I will know.

• 1:33:40Speaker 03

  By the way, I always thought that was bullshit.

• 1:33:45Speaker 03

  History is bullshit.

• 1:33:47Bill Maher?

  It's the ultimate non-bullshit. If you don't know history, you don't know how to guide the present.

• 1:33:52Speaker 03

  But history was, in my classes, only memorizing what dates the wars started.

• 1:33:59Bill Maher?

  Well, they taught it to you badly. History should be about the significance of what happened before we were here. One of my biggest problems with the younger generation is when you mention something that happened before they were alive. They're such little fucking narcissists that they don't think they should know because I wasn't alive for that.

• 1:34:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:34:20Bill Maher?

  I remember once Meghan McCain was on the show and she said something like that. And Paul Begala almost brought her to tears when he said, "You know, I wasn't alive for the French Revolution, but I know about it."

• 1:34:33Speaker 03

  By the way, I really like Meghan McCain. Should you put your lanyard on?

• 1:34:37Bill Maher?

  I'm not.

• 1:34:37Speaker 03

  You were just saying in that moment. I mean, I don't know if this is bad for your shot.

• 1:34:42Bill Maher?

  Oh.

• 1:34:42Speaker 03

  Can you reach it? Okay. Um.

• 1:34:47Bill Maher?

  Yeah. I'm fucking doing it.

• 1:34:49Speaker 03

  It is weird that it just popped off.

• 1:34:50Bill Maher?

  I'm a Marine.

• 1:34:53Speaker 03

  Were you a Marine?

• 1:34:53Bill Maher?

  No.

• 1:34:55Speaker 03

  I was like, wow, I would be worried for the country.

• 1:34:57Bill Maher?

  I'm only a Marine compared to Gen Z. Compared to them, I am a Marine. And I'm not even a Marine.

• 1:35:05Speaker 03

  Have you? Did you ever think about joining the military?

• 1:35:08Bill Maher?

  No, I was very lucky. I was, um, came of draft age the year before they stopped the draft.

• 1:35:15Speaker 03

  The year before?

• 1:35:16Bill Maher?

  Yeah, 1973, I was 17. And kids were still going to Vietnam, although we were wrapping the war up.

• 1:35:23Speaker 03

  But not at 17.

• 1:35:26Bill Maher?

  But I would have had to have registered the next year.

• 1:35:28Speaker 03

  So when you were 18?

• 1:35:30Bill Maher?

  Normally, you had to register for the draft at 18. They stopped it the very year I turned 18. So I came, you know, very lucky. I came of age right when you didn't have to do it.

• 1:35:40Speaker 03

  Were you panicked about it or stressed or? No. You were just thought this is what it is?

• 1:35:46Bill Maher?

  No, because by 73, we were only withdrawing troops. We were not sending new troops. We had signed the treaty Nixon.

• 1:35:56Bill Maher?

  Who was the best salesman before Trump, who ran in 68 on the pledge of I will end the war in Vietnam and did not, and then ran again in 72 on the same pledge, but then did. Or it just came to an end. No, he pulled out. And then, of course, the Vietnamese took over, the North Vietnamese took over. So the whole thing was pointless. But I was not worried about it at that age because we were drawing the war.

• 1:36:23Speaker 03

  It was winding down.

• 1:36:24Bill Maher?

  So it was just the perfect age. You want to become a military fodder right after a war.

• 1:36:32Speaker 03

  After a war, because it's going to take a while for something to generate.

• 1:36:35Bill Maher?

  Right, generations usually take a pause before they go back. Again, one good thing about Trump. He really, really does not like war.

• 1:36:44Speaker 03

  Which I love that about him.

• 1:36:45Bill Maher?

  I kinda do, because I don't want war either, and most of them are unnecessary.

• 1:36:49Speaker 03

  Agreed.

• 1:36:50Bill Maher?

  I mean, he took a long time when I had that dinner with him, talking about the pictures he sees coming from Ukraine, the stuff that doesn't get out on the news.

• 1:37:00Speaker 03

  And by the way-

• 1:37:00Bill Maher?

  It's like raw footage of bodies in the field.

• 1:37:03Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:37:03Bill Maher?

  And you could tell it really moved him.

• 1:37:05Speaker 03

  It does.

• 1:37:06Bill Maher?

  He's like, "I do not want to see this, and I can, I'm the kinda guy who can fix this." At least, you know, he, he's never not gonna be Trump. So of course, he's like, "I solved nine wars." You know, okay, even if it's half that, it's still good that we're solving them and not starting them.

• 1:37:25Speaker 03

  That, that's the thing that I find, that I really like about President Trump, when he talks about wars and talks about Ukraine.

• 1:37:38Speaker 03

  And he talks about Ukraine and Russia, and he's, and he will say, "They're, they're losing people on both sides." And it's not just, Ukraine is losing people, it's not just Russia is losing people. He sees like both sides, this is a lot, a true loss for, for both sides. And you can feel it from him when he, when he talks about that loss. I, I mean, I do.

• 1:38:05Bill Maher?

  The problem with that one is that he's up against truly the devil. You know, Putin is as close to Satan as you can get. I mean, he's just, he's a cold, dead-eyed shark in the water. And he, he just, he plays Trump, he's like, "Oh, sure, let's, let's have a peace meeting in Alaska, sure, great. What a great place to meet and have lunch and, you know." And he left before the lunch. Did you know that?

• 1:38:33Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:38:34Bill Maher?

  And Trump.

• 1:38:35Speaker 03

  But I doubted that he would, he's flying to Alaska to have lunch. Like, I can't wait to get there to see what they're serving for lunch. That was probably like last on his list of things to do there.

• 1:38:46Bill Maher?

  Yeah, but I mean, he was supposed to stay for the lunch. That just tells you something about Putin and how he thinks of the United States and how we can deal with them, which is like, you know, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.

• 1:39:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:39:00Bill Maher?

  I'm gonna take a piece, if not all of Ukraine, and I'm gonna string you along. And I'm gonna go to your summit meetings and we'll pretend to talk. And then, I won't even stay for the lunch. Trump stayed for the lunch. He said to the waiter, "How's the blubber?" And the waiter said, "We serve everybody."

• 1:39:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I watched.

• 1:39:21Bill Maher?

  No, but.

• 1:39:21Speaker 03

  By the way, if I, I can just see like journalists out there going, Bill Maher said, "I'll stay for the blubber."

• 1:39:30Bill Maher?

  Of course.

• 1:39:31Speaker 03

  Like, would you, would you, would you be talking to people, are you thinking?

• 1:39:34Bill Maher?

  They're just the worst. They only, because they don't, I just did a whole piece on this. How, because the Fox News and the New York Post printed half of an editorial I did. They, they went all over town on how great I was to take on the left and completely left off the part where I was taking on the right. And that's what they always do, that's every week. So, if I, if I started to work.

• 1:40:00Speaker 03

  And it goes both ways.

• 1:40:00Bill Maher?

  It goes both, I said that too.

• 1:40:02Speaker 03

  Because, by the way, I was.

• 1:40:04Bill Maher?

  Yes, it goes both ways.

• 1:40:05Speaker 03

  With my niece Kaylee and we were looking at, you know, headlines and whatever. And some people are still talking about The View. And it's interesting, the coverage of that appearance on The View because, because a big part of people's criticism of Bobby is that he's not a medical doctor. And on The View, I said 90% of secretaries of HHS have not been medical doctors. So you can see, when somebody prints an article, if they don't print my response, but just print, you know, whoever said, "Your husband's not qualified, he's not even a doctor." You see, oh, okay. They're only printing that side. They're not printing the response, and it's just like what you're talking about.

• 1:40:50Bill Maher?

  I mean, I did a lot of editorials during the pandemic that the woke did not like. That were more on Bobby's page.

• 1:40:59Speaker 03

  Okay, just another spit take. That's number two.

• 1:41:01Bill Maher?

  I was not on, I mean, I am not an anti-vaxxer. He sat here and we talked for a very long time about a very many topics. He cried.

• 1:41:12Speaker 03

  He cried?

• 1:41:13Bill Maher?

  When he was here, yes.

• 1:41:14Speaker 03

  Why?

• 1:41:15Bill Maher?

  Talking about his father.

• 1:41:18Bill Maher?

  I mean, I didn't purposely, as you can see, I have no agenda. Or thought in my head beyond.

• 1:41:24Speaker 03

  No, you don't plan.

• 1:41:25Bill Maher?

  Don't you don't.

• 1:41:27Speaker 03

  You're even not planning any of this.

• 1:41:29Bill Maher?

  It's obvious. Yeah, when I did this, I said, I have a show where I do, where I plan. This is no plan.

• 1:41:35Speaker 03

  No, this is.

• 1:41:35Bill Maher?

  So, I mean, I don't know how we got on it, but, I mean, he was very real and it was very. But, you know, I, I did say to him, you know, something anti-vaxxer, and he said, "You think that's what I am?" And I'm like, well.

• 1:41:51Speaker 03

  That's what everyone calls you.

• 1:41:52Bill Maher?

  I could show you.

• 1:41:53Speaker 03

  Times that you've.

• 1:41:54Bill Maher?

  Things you've said that would certainly make a person to think that. You know?

• 1:41:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:41:59Bill Maher?

  But I also was on the page during the pandemic that we were overreacting to something that could have better been, certainly, we should not have been an outlier country as far as not acknowledging natural immunity, which we were.

• 1:42:17Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 1:42:17Bill Maher?

  And that does, to me, look like people who are saying, "Look."

• 1:42:22Speaker 03

  No matter what.

• 1:42:23Bill Maher?

  "We will get the vaccine in you."

• 1:42:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:42:25Bill Maher?

  Whether you need it or not.

• 1:42:26Speaker 03

  No matter what, we don't care if you've already had COVID and you have natural immunity. You are getting this vaccine for the sake of everybody. That was the.

• 1:42:36Bill Maher?

  But just scientifically, it's wrong. I mean, there's nothing more sort of bargain basement medicine than natural immunity is the best.

• 1:42:46Speaker 03

  Well, that's why Bobby and I had, that's where we sometimes go.

• 1:42:53Bill Maher?

  You don't think natural immunity is?

• 1:42:54Speaker 03

  No, I do.

• 1:42:55Bill Maher?

  Oh.

• 1:42:55Speaker 03

  But I'm always saying to him, you have to think about people's feelings when you're talking about this and,

• 1:43:05Speaker 03

  you know, if somebody has, let's say for this, not that this natural immunity came up, but if somebody already has natural immunity, but somebody, the government is telling them, you still have to get the vaccine, their feeling is, I still need to get the vaccine. I said, so let's look at the feeling of that person. And he's like, this is the science. They don't need it. They already have immunity. I know, but they have feelings about it. It's like, doesn't matter.

• 1:43:36Bill Maher?

  Well, this is what I said about politicians talk to their wives.

• 1:43:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:43:41Bill Maher?

  The good ones.

• 1:43:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:43:42Bill Maher?

  Because they, you know, I've never quite been on the page of, you know, men are from Mars, women are from Venus, but sometimes they are.

• 1:43:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's a difference.

• 1:43:52Bill Maher?

  Sometimes we are.

• 1:43:53Speaker 03

  You know why?

• 1:43:53Bill Maher?

  And you kind of have to hear it.

• 1:43:55Speaker 03

  Because, oh, women by nature. Women by nature are nurturers.

• 1:44:01Bill Maher?

  Yes, yes.

• 1:44:03Speaker 03

  And we, you know what? We bear the children. We feel the responsibility. Not that men don't, but we are connected to the universe in a way that

• 1:44:19Speaker 03

  men might not be. We feel the weight of that. So we feel the, we feel the intensity of other people's feelings. And I'm generalizing. People are already going to town. They do. But generally, because we have, we're thinking about the children. We're thinking about our family. We're, how is this going to affect the whole family? How is this going to affect, you know, so, and? I'm generalizing, not some but not all.

• 1:44:54Bill Maher?

  Okay, but I don't want you to continue in a second.

• 1:44:56Speaker 03

  But I don't need to keep qualifying?

• 1:44:57Bill Maher?

  I just want to say, mature people understand that no comment about anything important is done without some generalization.

• 1:45:07Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:45:08Bill Maher?

  That's what mature people do. Immature people find the one outlier and try to make that a thing.

• 1:45:15Speaker 03

  How dare you, I'm a single dad and I have...

• 1:45:17Bill Maher?

  Mature people do, or serious academics do. They have to go by majorities and statistics.

• 1:45:24Speaker 03

  Yes, majorities and statistics, so...

• 1:45:26Bill Maher?

  Just wanted to get that shot in at those assholes. I fucking hate...

• 1:45:30Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:45:31Bill Maher?

  They're just such...

• 1:45:31Speaker 03

  Because those are the people that are like, how dare you, you don't know my situation.

• 1:45:35Bill Maher?

  Bad faith. You know what bad faith means? It means you don't really believe it yourself, but you can get idiots to believe it. That's bad faith.

• 1:45:44Speaker 03

  If you say it loud enough. But if people say it loud enough, or enough times, then people will believe it.

• 1:45:50Bill Maher?

  But smash them shit tonight.

• 1:45:53Speaker 03

  But, yes, men and women's different opinions because, you know...

• 1:45:59Bill Maher?

  I started with a comic named Mark Sander, he had a great joke. He said, "Yeah, every Sunday night I can get in bed with my girlfriend and we make love and then watch my favorite show, 59 Minutes."

• 1:46:13Speaker 03

  I'm like, "Oh, okay, I get it, I get it." Yeah, it doesn't...

• 1:46:17Bill Maher?

  But, yes, it's important that you...

• 1:46:20Speaker 03

  Watch things together that you like or that you agree on?

• 1:46:23Bill Maher?

  That you vibe on that time of togetherness.

• 1:46:27Speaker 03

  It's true, I agree with that.

• 1:46:28Bill Maher?

  Because it's very often before you go to sleep.

• 1:46:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, and you want to unwind, and you want to have a share.

• 1:46:33Bill Maher?

  And you just want to be on the same page and you don't want... It's not a time for fighting, like, "Oh, can we watch this?" It's like, I don't want to negotiate.

• 1:46:41Speaker 03

  No, I know. I keep trying to get Bobby to watch Murder, and he doesn't want to. He's like, "Why do I want to watch Murder?" I said, "I don't know, it's relaxing."

• 1:46:52Bill Maher?

  Yeah, now that is a female thing.

• 1:46:54Speaker 03

  It is.

• 1:46:55Bill Maher?

  What, what, why are, you tell me.

• 1:46:57Speaker 03

  Okay, I'll tell you.

• 1:46:58Bill Maher?

  Why are women so fucking interested in murder?

• 1:47:02Speaker 03

  I'll tell you why, Bill.

• 1:47:06Speaker 03

  Because I think when it's presented to us, you know, in an hour form, or even a mini-series. People call it that. No, limited series. Uh, it's like, here's what's, well, here's what happened. It's usually a guy, let's be honest. It's not usually a female murderer.

• 1:47:29Bill Maher?

  No.

• 1:47:29Speaker 03

  Usually a guy.

• 1:47:30Bill Maher?

  Oh, because in life it is.

• 1:47:32Speaker 03

  It's a guy.

• 1:47:33Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 1:47:34Speaker 03

  Um, so it's a, it's a super weird guy.

• 1:47:37Bill Maher?

  Men are murderers.

• 1:47:38Speaker 03

  Who murders.

• 1:47:39Bill Maher?

  Let's just say it.

• 1:47:40Speaker 03

  Who, men are.

• 1:47:42Bill Maher?

  Not all men are murderers, but if you are a murderer, you're probably a man.

• 1:47:47Speaker 03

  A hundred percent. And women are nurturers. So, I'm not saying who's better, but it doesn't matter. Um, but, so, so, okay, so there's, somebody's serving up murder in an hour form, right? Or two hours, like, it's, it's, it's, it's a, what are they, what's one of them? Not Nightline, Time Tank, no. Time Tank? No, 2020, or something like that. And they're like, here's.

• 1:48:12Bill Maher?

  Dateline?

• 1:48:12Speaker 03

  Dateline, thank you. You're like, here's what happened.

• 1:48:15Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:16Speaker 03

  There was a murder on Elm Street. Like you've never seen murder. Who was it? You don't know. Could have been the husband. We don't know. And you're watching going, it was.

• 1:48:28Bill Maher?

  It was always the husband, yeah.

• 1:48:31Speaker 03

  And then you watch it, and the husband thinks he's getting away with it, and he doesn't.

• 1:48:35Bill Maher?

  And it is always the husband?

• 1:48:37Speaker 03

  Almost always. It's almost always.

• 1:48:40Bill Maher?

  Yeah, almost always. Well, that's how the police view it.

• 1:48:43Speaker 03

  Right, of course.

• 1:48:44Bill Maher?

  The police view it that way.

• 1:48:45Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:48:45Bill Maher?

  Not just people in show business. The police are gonna say, first thing.

• 1:48:52Bill Maher?

  Check out the husband.

• 1:48:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, or the ex-husband.

• 1:48:54Bill Maher?

  They're on a cruise.

• 1:48:55Speaker 03

  We're the lovers.

• 1:48:56Bill Maher?

  Somehow she fell overboard.

• 1:48:57Speaker 03

  He fell. You're speaking my language. It's a Friday night for me and I'm just like, ah, she's a lover. She didn't fall overboard.

• 1:49:06Bill Maher?

  Well, we know that, that like on cruise ships, a lot of the accidents. I think now with cameras, it's less likely, but like for, there was a, there was a, a.

• 1:49:19Bill Maher?

  For murderers, there was a golden window of time. When you could like.

• 1:49:24Speaker 03

  Get away with a touch.

• 1:49:26Bill Maher?

  Take your girl on a cruise.

• 1:49:27Speaker 03

  And be like.

• 1:49:28Bill Maher?

  Tell her, honey, I love you so much. I want to take you on a cruise.

• 1:49:33Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:49:33Bill Maher?

  And then use the cruise.

• 1:49:34Speaker 03

  Go look at the moon. Can you believe this view?

• 1:49:38Bill Maher?

  To kill her. I'm king of the world. Yeah.

• 1:49:42Speaker 03

  King of the world.

• 1:49:43Bill Maher?

  You're queen of the bottom of the sea, bitch.

• 1:49:47Speaker 03

  I did it. And then.

• 1:49:51Speaker 03

  2020. Not, what did you say it was called? Primetime? No, Nightline. No.

• 1:49:56Bill Maher?

  Nightline.

• 1:49:56Speaker 03

  Nightline.

• 1:49:57Bill Maher?

  Yeah. Dateline.

• 1:49:59Speaker 03

  Dateline.

• 1:49:59Bill Maher?

  Dateline.

• 1:50:00Speaker 03

  And then Dateline. And then it's like, women got wise. Like, why are you taking me on this cruise? And why do you want me to look at the moon at the end of the boat? And why are you sitting behind me? I would like to see you. You know, so it's like.

• 1:50:15Bill Maher?

  Well, if you're already at the point where you're that suspicious.

• 1:50:18Speaker 03

  If you don't want your man to stand behind you while you're looking at the moon.

• 1:50:22Bill Maher?

  It's not a good.

• 1:50:23Speaker 03

  You've got bigger problems.

• 1:50:24Bill Maher?

  Not a good relationship.

• 1:50:25Speaker 03

  But that's like, that's why women like these shows because it's like. He did it. He, we found out he did it. And you guys are not, you guys are not getting away with it anymore.

• 1:50:39Speaker 03

  And you go to bed feeling like, great. And Bobby's like, wha, how do you feel good about? The murder. You don't get it. You're a guy.

• 1:50:49Bill Maher?

  So you make him watch that?

• 1:50:51Speaker 03

  No, he won't watch it. That's what I secretly. Not secretly, I don't keep it a secret from him, but if he's doing something else.

• 1:50:59Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:00Speaker 03

  Then I will.

• 1:51:00Bill Maher?

  That's for you.

• 1:51:01Speaker 03

  That's fair.

• 1:51:02Bill Maher?

  That's murder is.

• 1:51:03Speaker 03

  That's my joy.

• 1:51:04Bill Maher?

  Murder is your private joy.

• 1:51:05Speaker 03

  Murder, let me have murder.

• 1:51:07Bill Maher?

  But you should have murder.

• 1:51:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't need you sitting next to me being angry about murder when I'm just relaxing to it.

• 1:51:15Bill Maher?

  Yeah, it's like asking him to share the vibrator. I mean, like, that's your thing.

• 1:51:18Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 1:51:21Bill Maher?

  It's your thing.

• 1:51:22Speaker 03

  Bill.

• 1:51:22Bill Maher?

  Why would?

• 1:51:23Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, I really did it this time. I really.

• 1:51:27Bill Maher?

  You sound like Lucy. Oh, I really did it this time. Lucy, you really did it this time.

• 1:51:34Speaker 03

  I really.

• 1:51:35Bill Maher?

  To the moon, Lucy.

• 1:51:37Speaker 03

  That really got me.

• 1:51:38Bill Maher?

  Don't you love 50's TV where you could threaten to punch your wife in the face? And it was considered acceptable?

• 1:51:44Speaker 03

  That was cute.

• 1:51:45Bill Maher?

  Alice, if you annoy me one more minute, I'm gonna punch you.

• 1:51:51Speaker 03

  To the moon. I mean, I feel like. Is my mascara running and I'm not.

• 1:51:56Bill Maher?

  No, you look fantastic.

• 1:51:58Speaker 03

  Would you know if I didn't?

• 1:52:01Bill Maher?

  What do you mean?

• 1:52:01Speaker 03

  If my mascara was running? In your state of mind, do you feel like, you'd be like, well, it is, but it still works okay? Or would you feel like, no, it is, and?

• 1:52:11Bill Maher?

  Honestly, and I'm not saying this to blow, smoke up your leather, but you are one of the few people I've ever met who like looks better in person than you do on the screen. Not that you don't look good on the screen, but like, you look different in person. And it's not worse. It's very rare. Usually they use the, they use the artifices to like, you know, enhance us.

• 1:52:35Speaker 03

  Make it look better.

• 1:52:36Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:38Speaker 03

  Well, that's interesting.

• 1:52:39Bill Maher?

  You look thinner.

• 1:52:41Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 1:52:42Bill Maher?

  Well, they say the camera does add ten pounds.

• 1:52:44Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, yeah, and.

• 1:52:50Speaker 03

  Sometimes people meet me and think I look taller in person. Because you don't know how tall somebody is when it's just like head and shoulders.

• 1:52:58Bill Maher?

  Tell it to Tom Cruise.

• 1:53:01Bill Maher?

  No, I mean, but he is, he's kind of diminutive, right?

• 1:53:05Speaker 03

  I don't know, I've never met him in real life. And, and by the way, it doesn't even matter because he's doing.

• 1:53:10Bill Maher?

  No, but he is, I think he is, um, short, I mean, I'm 5'8", I think he's shorter than me.

• 1:53:16Speaker 03

  Hmm, I never met him though.

• 1:53:18Bill Maher?

  Yeah, once at a party, I told them how much I loved Night and Day.

• 1:53:24Speaker 03

  Oh, I remember Night and Day with Cameron Diaz.

• 1:53:26Bill Maher?

  So great. It's just such a great kind of overlooked movie by the, yeah, I mean, like the snobs didn't like it for some reason. But it's just like a, a great sort of romantic caper kind of movie.

• 1:53:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, I remember liking that movie.

• 1:53:41Bill Maher?

  It's just two old pros who know how to do their job in movies and doing it well. And a great sort of fun, you know, it's just escapism.

• 1:53:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:53:52Bill Maher?

  But on an elegant level.

• 1:53:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:53:54Bill Maher?

  You can do it elegantly.

• 1:53:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:53:56Bill Maher?

  You know, and.

• 1:53:57Speaker 03

  I mean, he's always pretty elegant.

• 1:53:59Bill Maher?

  I love Tom Cruise as a movie star.

• 1:54:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, because he.

• 1:54:03Bill Maher?

  Oh, he's amazing.

• 1:54:04Speaker 03

  He takes that, he takes the responsibility.

• 1:54:07Bill Maher?

  Very much so.

• 1:54:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, seriously.

• 1:54:09Bill Maher?

  Yes, for the whole planet also.

• 1:54:12Speaker 03

  You don't think that about Christian, like a, a Christian actor, you don't feel like, whoa, huh, like, well, I would like to see, I would like to rewire their brain to get that one thing different.

• 1:54:27Bill Maher?

  Oh, I see what you're saying.

• 1:54:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, because it's like, but you feel that about.

• 1:54:31Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that's a very good point. I mean, it's just, because it is just as nutty, you're right. It is just as nutty to think that Jesus was, I mean.

• 1:54:40Speaker 03

  Walked on water or whatever.

• 1:54:42Bill Maher?

  If even was a historical figure, which is not certain but possible, um, it's like a 50/50. Okay, say he was a historical figure, there was a guy, Jesus. Yeah, to think that he reanimated after he was dead, that is as crazy as Xenu. You're right, you're totally right.

• 1:54:59Speaker 03

  And what.

• 1:54:59Bill Maher?

  We're just used to it.

• 1:55:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, we're just used to it.

• 1:55:02Bill Maher?

  We're just used to it and it's more mainstream.

• 1:55:04Speaker 03

  Right, so who cares what somebody else.

• 1:55:06Bill Maher?

  I'm not for actually doing lobotomies on people, but, but, um.

• 1:55:12Bill Maher?

  You know, I mean.

• 1:55:14Speaker 03

  It's just such a, it's such a different idea that it's hard to.

• 1:55:20Bill Maher?

  I mean Scientology, to me, is a little worse because it came much later. Christianity, you could make the excuse, like Judaism and Islam.

• 1:55:29Speaker 03

  And you see the, you see the artwork that goes back.

• 1:55:31Bill Maher?

  Well, it came at the pre-scientific era. The scientific era only started about 400 years ago, when people believed in science, when they stopped thinking the sun revolved around the other planet.

• 1:55:44Speaker 03

  But what if that is the truth? What if the science is the truth?

• 1:55:50Bill Maher?

  Now, this is Bobby talking.

• 1:55:54Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 1:55:54Bill Maher?

  I mean, we, we definitely should always be debating what the science is. That's one thing I.

• 1:56:00Speaker 03

  Are we talking, are we talking about religion now, or are we talking about something else?

• 1:56:03Bill Maher?

  We're talking about both.

• 1:56:04Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:56:04Bill Maher?

  Because they both apply.

• 1:56:06Speaker 03

  But, but you're saying we, we should always be debating.

• 1:56:09Bill Maher?

  The science, that's what science means debating. That's where I'm with him.

• 1:56:12Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:56:13Bill Maher?

  It's like, you know.

• 1:56:14Speaker 03

  Because it's always changing, too.

• 1:56:15Bill Maher?

  It's always changing.

• 1:56:16Speaker 03

  Well, who is to say that this has been settled and we're moving on from here?

• 1:56:20Bill Maher?

  That's where I've always had his back. And I've done, and I've taken the shit from doing my editorials about it, especially during COVID. Uh, and, uh, and even before COVID, they hated me as an, and they called me an anti-vaxxer. And I was like, I'm not an anti-vaxxer. That's not what I am.

• 1:56:36Speaker 03

  Looking at.

• 1:56:37Bill Maher?

  I'm just a pro skepticism about anything medical.

• 1:56:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:56:42Bill Maher?

  Any medical intervention.

• 1:56:43Speaker 03

  Why can't we ask questions?

• 1:56:44Bill Maher?

  I'm very spec, yeah, especially since you got, my thing was always like, don't look at me because you're wearing a white coat with your name unprinted on it.

• 1:56:52Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:56:52Bill Maher?

  In stitching. Like, I have, I'm God and I have the answers. When have we ever been wrong? Because my answer is a lot.

• 1:57:00Speaker 03

  A lot.

• 1:57:00Bill Maher?

  You've been wrong a lot. So, am I gonna listen to Bobby Kennedy? Absolutely.

• 1:57:06Speaker 03

  That's a question.

• 1:57:07Bill Maher?

  Does that obligate me to believe everything he says? No, but I don't believe everything you say either.

• 1:57:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's see, let's see.

• 1:57:14Bill Maher?

  And I have a lot of evidence in the past, more than about him, about how you were wrong.

• 1:57:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, big tobacco, we've got.

• 1:57:22Bill Maher?

  Big Pharma.

• 1:57:23Speaker 03

  Big Pharma, I mean, that's the other thing.

• 1:57:25Bill Maher?

  They paid $8 billion to the Sackler, the Sackler family did. Who were, you know, obviously, you can buy a lie.

• 1:57:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:57:35Bill Maher?

  In Big Pharma and kill a lot of people.

• 1:57:39Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:57:39Bill Maher?

  And get away with it by paying a fine.

• 1:57:41Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:57:41Bill Maher?

  But don't come to me with the, when have we ever been wrong?

• 1:57:44Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:57:45Bill Maher?

  And, and, and a lot of it, most of it is not because of corruption, that is. Corruption is part of it, most of it is just because they just don't fucking know.

• 1:57:55Speaker 03

  Well, I was just talking about this the other day about, uh, pregnant women getting x-rayed back in the 50s.

• 1:58:01Bill Maher?

  Hmm.

• 1:58:02Speaker 03

  Because that was leading technology and

• 1:58:05Bill Maher?

  Sure.

• 1:58:06Speaker 03

  They could see where the baby was and wealthy mothers were, were doing it. Because it was the, the, the best health, healthcare you could have. And then, um,

• 1:58:19Speaker 03

  you know, there were studies done, it's like, oh, there's a link to wealthy women and children's cancer.

• 1:58:27Bill Maher?

  But my mother drank during her pregnancy.

• 1:58:30Speaker 03

  She smoked too?

• 1:58:31Bill Maher?

  Because of course she did.

• 1:58:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, just like that. Help me, get me through this.

• 1:58:35Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:58:35Speaker 03

  What is L and M's?

• 1:58:36Bill Maher?

  And did it affect me? No.

• 1:58:38Speaker 03

  Not a bit. Look at you.

• 1:58:40Bill Maher?

  No.

• 1:58:40Speaker 03

  I picked her up.

• 1:58:41Bill Maher?

  But that had nothing to do with it. But, yeah, I mean, you know, look.

• 1:58:45Speaker 03

  But yeah, and then so, you, you know, then there was a connection made.

• 1:58:52Speaker 03

  Radiation from x-rays is causing, um, childhood cancer.

• 1:58:57Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:58:58Speaker 03

  And then when, when they came out with that.

• 1:59:01Bill Maher?

  Which makes sense.

• 1:59:02Speaker 03

  Makes sense, but people were outraged at the finding. And they said, that's can't be true because we're doing the best we can for our patients. The mothers were doing the best they could for their babies. And it took 20 years until the US and Europe stopped doing it. Because they just couldn't get their, they couldn't imagine that they're, they're doing something.

• 1:59:28Bill Maher?

  I just wish Bobby could stop saying the things I can't defend. So that I could more vociferously defend the things I want to. You know what I mean?

• 1:59:39Speaker 03

  Do you have something in mind? Or is this?

• 1:59:41Bill Maher?

  No, but you know, in general, you, you know what I mean?

• 1:59:45Speaker 03

  Well.

• 1:59:46Bill Maher?

  Because some things I can't. And he, he goes too far for me and, um.

• 1:59:55Bill Maher?

  And it's a, you know, like, in the, in the big picture, yes. Do I think we needed a big shakeup? And should we relook at it? And a lot of the precepts that he has signed on to have been parts of my whole life. Because, you know, I got with a holistic doctor 20 something years ago. And it just changes your way of viewing it.

• 2:00:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:20Bill Maher?

  What you think is, is, you know, I mean, I've, I do not want to have certain products that have been homogenized or pasteurized, for example. Because I want live bacteria.

• 2:00:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:33Bill Maher?

  Because I don't want to kill the bacteria, the good bacteria with the bad bacteria.

• 2:00:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:39Bill Maher?

  I agree that it would make it completely safe because you've killed all the bacteria. But then you're denying the healthful factor part of it. And as a free citizen, I should be able to say, well, I will take that risk.

• 2:00:52Speaker 03

  I want that bacteria.

• 2:00:54Bill Maher?

  Because I want that bacteria. And you don't know my personal, my personal health background and what I may have gone through. Because I don't ever publicize that shit. Lots of other people do. And I, I don't think that's a bad thing. I'm not judging that.

• 2:01:08Speaker 03

  Like their health situations are.

• 2:01:10Bill Maher?

  Absolutely.

• 2:01:11Speaker 03

  Wait, come here. I feel like you have a little.

• 2:01:14Bill Maher?

  Yeah, well, get rid of it.

• 2:01:16Speaker 03

  I don't know what. Oh, I know what it is.

• 2:01:19Bill Maher?

  Probably ash.

• 2:01:20Speaker 03

  Wait, don't go anywhere.

• 2:01:21Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:22Speaker 03

  I've made it worse. Here, can I do this?

• 2:01:24Bill Maher?

  I once had, yeah.

• 2:01:25Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 2:01:26Bill Maher?

  Mom.

• 2:01:28Speaker 03

  I'm being a total mom. Okay, yeah, I think I got it.

• 2:01:31Bill Maher?

  I once had a pot dealer and it was like his wife did not want him to be doing it. And he's like, I can't do it. Be cool, because my wife's, you know, she thinks I'm still doing the whole pot thing. And she came in and she was yelling at him for pot. He says, honey, I don't smoke pot anymore. And she said, Peter, there's a leaf in your teeth.

• 2:01:52Speaker 03

  I can, I can, I can see it. Yeah, yeah.

• 2:01:58Bill Maher?

  But it's.

• 2:01:59Speaker 03

  You had a little ash.

• 2:02:00Bill Maher?

  But, you know.

• 2:02:02Speaker 03

  No, I know. Listen. But it's hard to be a, um. I think it's hard to be a change speaker.

• 2:02:11Bill Maher?

  Totally.

• 2:02:12Speaker 03

  Nobody wants, nobody wants change. It's scary and it intimidates people and it's the unknown. You know, it's hard for people to. It's like, no. We don't want to, we don't want to change. We've got this, this thing going. And it's like, well, what if it's not a great thing? That you've got going, like, we have to make change and so. And, you know.

• 2:02:39Bill Maher?

  But he is kind of perfect for the Trump administration. Because he kind of fits in with what I think of the template, which is. Got the right idea about a bunch of things that need reform. But the way you're doing it, I can't go on. I mean, I can go on part of the way and then you lose me. But that's not your thing. We don't have to talk about that.

• 2:03:02Speaker 03

  No, it's okay. I mean, it's, it's interesting here and, and once again, I think it. It's interesting being on the inside looking out, right? Because I'm seeing it from a different perspective.

• 2:03:15Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 2:03:16Speaker 03

  Because you only have so much time to make change.

• 2:03:19Bill Maher?

  Yeah, right.

• 2:03:20Speaker 03

  And so. When. Oh, yeah, I'm just gonna say this to you.

• 2:03:26Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:26Speaker 03

  Because it's just the two of us in this. Um. No one's listening. But when Biden was in, uh, was president. You know, we, we didn't see him. I didn't see him. I didn't. I wasn't feeling any sort of. Movement or movement forward and I thought.

• 2:03:48Bill Maher?

  He was.

• 2:03:49Speaker 03

  And I thought, oh. Maybe that's where we are now. Our president is just sort of a figurehead, like. Like the Queen of England or the King of England. Like, it's just a person that's like, this is who we voted for.

• 2:04:02Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:04Speaker 03

  And so I sort of got used to that idea of, oh, this is a person in the background. So then, and by the way, I, I, until recently, I couldn't have told you one name of a secretary of HHS. Never in my life have I ever been

• 2:04:23Bill Maher?

  Yeah, it's not a big

• 2:04:24Speaker 03

  concerned myself with the secretary of HHS.

• 2:04:28Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:28Speaker 03

  But now, I know

• 2:04:30Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 2:04:31Speaker 03

  names, I know what they've done, I know their history, I know their qualifications.

• 2:04:38Speaker 03

  But, so when President Trump got into office again,

• 2:04:43Speaker 03

  you know, he's a change maker, Bobby's a change maker, and they are like, we only have a certain amount of time to get stuff done, we're gonna get it done. And whether you like it or not, a lot of people don't like it, a lot of people love it.

• 2:04:59Speaker 03

  They're making changes, which is hard to do in politics.

• 2:05:03Bill Maher?

  The hardest.

• 2:05:04Speaker 03

  It's hard to do in policy.

• 2:05:05Bill Maher?

  Inertia is more, more relevant usually than either party.

• 2:05:11Speaker 03

  No, and by the way, we've all known red dye, what is it, red dye 20? The red dye in food.

• 2:05:18Bill Maher?

  Oh, red dye number two.

• 2:05:20Speaker 03

  Is it number two?

• 2:05:21Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:22Speaker 03

  That it is

• 2:05:23Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:24Speaker 03

  It's been known to cause cancer, we've known this for a very long time.

• 2:05:27Bill Maher?

  You know what, I mean, that whole thing, I'm with him totally, but I gotta say, the idea that I would ever eat anything that had red dye number two in it, it's just like, like, I don't need this, this fucking law, because I'm not gonna eat red dye number two products anyway.

• 2:05:46Speaker 03

  But you know why?

• 2:05:49Speaker 03

  I'm not, and I'm not, I'm not finger pointing, but it's because you don't have kids, when you have kids. It's a responsibility that you have.

• 2:05:57Bill Maher?

  That's one reason I don't have kids. Because you can't raise kids, unfortunately, in a vacuum. You raise them in society. And so you have to live by the mores and the ideas of the other people in society, who their kids are gonna...

• 2:06:12Speaker 03

  But that's why, that's why you...

• 2:06:13Bill Maher?

  And I would, I would just be the bad parent with the scissors in my hand, who's gonna stab you in your leather pants. Because you were like...

• 2:06:21Speaker 03

  These damn leather pants.

• 2:06:23Bill Maher?

  Because I can't raise my kid the way I want to. Because everybody else gets a fucking say in it, which was not the way I was raised.

• 2:06:31Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:06:31Bill Maher?

  Nobody else got a say.

• 2:06:32Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:06:33Bill Maher?

  Now, it's just that everything, nobody ever stops in the middle with the pendulum. It always goes to like...

• 2:06:39Speaker 03

  No, it's, it really swung.

• 2:06:40Bill Maher?

  Jupiter on the next...

• 2:06:41Speaker 03

  No, it really...

• 2:06:43Bill Maher?

  Right?

• 2:06:43Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:06:44Bill Maher?

  Isn't that the biggest fucking bad...

• 2:06:46Speaker 03

  And that's what happened in the last administration. It really, it swung really far and...

• 2:06:54Bill Maher?

  Biden really, I think, affected my feelings about age. Because I always have been...

• 2:07:01Speaker 03

  About age?

• 2:07:02Bill Maher?

  Yes, because I've, I've, for a very long time, been, I think, a voice against ageism. I think this is a very ageist country.

• 2:07:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:07:12Bill Maher?

  And my point was always, I'm not saying there's not a time to go off into the great pasture, or whatever. But it's a case by case, and that is still my point.

• 2:07:25Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:07:26Bill Maher?

  So don't automatically make a rule like at 75. Some people at 75 are...

• 2:07:32Speaker 03

  Are great, are top of their game.

• 2:07:34Bill Maher?

  I mean, I had Barbara fucking Eden here.

• 2:07:36Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 2:07:38Bill Maher?

  Right there, I Dream of Jeannie. She's 94.

• 2:07:41Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:07:42Bill Maher?

  She looks like you, and she talks like you. There's no betrayal of age at all. And, okay, and some people are old at 50. I've known people who are old at 50.

• 2:07:52Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:07:53Bill Maher?

  Who've given up on life.

• 2:07:54Speaker 03

  Right, and just like, turn on the TV and just like, I'm just gonna do this until I die.

• 2:07:58Bill Maher?

  And physically also.

• 2:08:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:08:01Bill Maher?

  I mean, at my age, you can, people look a lot worse than me at 70. Because they stayed in the sun.

• 2:08:10Speaker 03

  Let me swallow before you... I can't, I can't, I can't take another... Uh-oh. Okay, you must make a joke.

• 2:08:20Speaker 03

  Finally.

• 2:08:21Bill Maher?

  Thank you, Jesus.

• 2:08:22Speaker 03

  Thank you. I found one. Okay, go ahead. What were you saying?

• 2:08:26Bill Maher?

  No, what were you saying?

• 2:08:27Speaker 03

  No, I...

• 2:08:28Bill Maher?

  It was important.

• 2:08:29Speaker 03

  No, I did not want to do a fatigue. No, we were talking about ageism. And you were saying... And we were talking about Biden and we were talking about...

• 2:08:38Bill Maher?

  Oh, because I have always been, I would say, this, you know, avenging angel against ageism. And I still am there. But the Biden experience showed me that it's easy when you're, you know, in highfalutin positions of power, which I am not the president, but, you know, I am God in my universe and a show on a...

• 2:09:05Speaker 03

  Created all this.

• 2:09:06Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I mean, I could see people like trying to like keep me...

• 2:09:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. A peen.

• 2:09:13Bill Maher?

  Like Weekend at Bernie's me, you know.

• 2:09:17Speaker 03

  You can still do the show.

• 2:09:18Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 2:09:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. I got a mortgage to pay.

• 2:09:21Bill Maher?

  For that reason, I am acutely aware of my own prowess or lack of it. So like when the time comes, I will be there.

• 2:09:28Speaker 03

  Who will be the person to tell you that?

• 2:09:29Bill Maher?

  I don't need one. I will be that person. That's what I'm saying.

• 2:09:32Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:09:33Bill Maher?

  I do know.

• 2:09:34Speaker 03

  Because Biden...

• 2:09:35Bill Maher?

  I do know.

• 2:09:35Speaker 03

  Because Biden...

• 2:09:37Bill Maher?

  Well, I'm just saying Biden made it acutely aware, made me acutely aware that you can really get to this place where...

• 2:09:46Speaker 03

  You kind of overestimate.

• 2:09:47Bill Maher?

  Well, you're just...

• 2:09:50Bill Maher?

  I always said, he can't run for president. Could he be president? Yes, he wasn't crazy or senile. He could make decisions in small rooms of advisors, which is what a president needs to do. But at a certain point, you are also the president who needs to like have a public face.

• 2:10:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:10:10Bill Maher?

  And show the people they have a leader. Trump, you may hate him, you may hate every policy. He does not look tired.

• 2:10:18Speaker 03

  No, he is out there.

• 2:10:20Bill Maher?

  He is out there.

• 2:10:21Speaker 03

  I mean, he's televising his cabinet meetings.

• 2:10:23Bill Maher?

  He is.

• 2:10:24Speaker 03

  I don't know that anybody has done that.

• 2:10:26Bill Maher?

  Well, he's kicking ass and taking names, you know.

• 2:10:29Speaker 03

  He's like, this is who I am.

• 2:10:30Bill Maher?

  This is who I am.

• 2:10:31Speaker 03

  This is who you got.

• 2:10:32Bill Maher?

  And this is the shit that's been festering for a long time that I am not going to keep let festering. That's the part that's appealing to people.

• 2:10:43Speaker 03

  Maybe that should be the name of our show. Let's not keep festering.

• 2:10:49Bill Maher?

  I like just festering. I don't think we need the other part. I think it gills the lily. I think the word festering is always attractive to people.

• 2:11:00Speaker 03

  Start your day with festering.

• 2:11:04Speaker 03

  Just festering. Bill and Cheryl. Hey, everybody. It's 3 o'clock in the morning. We're taping this early. Nothing's gonna happen from 3 to 6. We all know that.

• 2:11:14Bill Maher?

  I think we should start every Monday broadcast with asking about, what was festering in your weekend?

• 2:11:22Speaker 03

  You know what? I would do this in one second. We can start off.

• 2:11:26Bill Maher?

  No, no, that is what you actually should do next. You should do a talk show. I don't know where.

• 2:11:31Speaker 03

  Like a morning show or just the...

• 2:11:33Bill Maher?

  Like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not even talking about, you know, podcasts and, you know, they're great. I'm talking about old fucking TV. I think that old fucking TV still lives on. I know it's not the newest thing, but you know what? It's still, you know, it's like...

• 2:11:49Speaker 03

  Like murder?

• 2:11:50Bill Maher?

  Well, like murder.

• 2:11:52Speaker 03

  People love it. They tune in.

• 2:11:54Bill Maher?

  Warren Buffett, you know, the smartest investor ever, and he was always like, "Okay, you guys, you know, make fun of me," and then I always invest in things like railroads and toilet paper. While you're chasing the latest high-tech things, and I'm like, "Yeah, but you know what? People still need to wipe their ass." And they need something to get it to them that'll let them wipe their ass. So I'm gonna invest in that.

• 2:12:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:20Bill Maher?

  So TV is not dead.

• 2:12:22Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 2:12:22Bill Maher?

  TV is not dead.

• 2:12:23Speaker 03

  People still want to connect.

• 2:12:25Bill Maher?

  I, I mean, I couldn't live without a TV.

• 2:12:28Speaker 03

  I know, I like TV.

• 2:12:29Bill Maher?

  It's a big thing at the end of my bed.

• 2:12:31Speaker 03

  Yeah. I like it, I like it. Are you like...

• 2:12:36Bill Maher?

  No, I'm...

• 2:12:37Speaker 03

  Bill?

• 2:12:38Bill Maher?

  I meant...

• 2:12:38Speaker 03

  Are you hoping that I will say, "Oh, a big thing at the end of your bed"? I know.

• 2:12:43Bill Maher?

  I only meant it literally, and then I realized what I said.

• 2:12:47Speaker 03

  And you were like, "Now that I said it..."

• 2:12:49Bill Maher?

  It's a big thing at the end of my bed, and I want it to be big, and I want it to be at the end of my bed. I feel like... Appointment television. That's a laurel that few people can like put around their neck. I have a little bit of that left. There are still people who really want to watch my show.

• 2:13:11Speaker 03

  You know why?

• 2:13:11Bill Maher?

  When it comes on, on Friday night, like as it comes on.

• 2:13:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:13:14Bill Maher?

  It was live for almost all its run. We, after the pandemic, made us not do it live because it was too dangerous.

• 2:13:23Speaker 03

  Too dangerous.

• 2:13:23Bill Maher?

  I mean, it was so.

• 2:13:24Speaker 03

  To get together.

• 2:13:27Bill Maher?

  There was so much material in the pandemic. I mean, there was so much stupidity and so much hypocrisy. I mean, it was a fucking, if you couldn't hit that with a comedic arrow, it was a barn door.

• 2:13:38Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:13:39Bill Maher?

  Like the.

• 2:13:39Speaker 03

  No, people were too upset about.

• 2:13:41Bill Maher?

  Restaurant shit. Remember going to restaurants in parking lots? Like, I'm in a parking lot. And then I found out because once, soon after the pandemic, I had to take a commercial flight. I know, that sounds like I'm a spoiled asshole.

• 2:13:56Speaker 03

  I know, that happened to you.

• 2:13:57Bill Maher?

  I know, it, me too, and I'm going to write a memoir about it.

• 2:14:01Speaker 03

  That's what my whole book is about.

• 2:14:02Bill Maher?

  My private plane got broke.

• 2:14:04Speaker 03

  I'm sorry.

• 2:14:05Bill Maher?

  And so I had to fly on a commercial airline. And when I saw how much they pack the people together, and I thought, I mean, during this whole pandemic, when we were all like going to the restaurants in the parking lot and wearing masks when we go to the. During this whole thing, you were letting the planes fly? Because I was on one of these planes and I saw what it was like. And there was no, and you could take the mask off to eat.

• 2:14:33Speaker 03

  But you have to pull that up when you're chewing.

• 2:14:36Bill Maher?

  That you think you were, and then people get off the plane and disperse.

• 2:14:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:14:41Bill Maher?

  You could not devise a better method to make sure the virus wasn't spread around the country. And yet I'm eating in the parking lot.

• 2:14:50Speaker 03

  Yeah. No, I know. It's in, it's also in my book. I talk about that in my book because I was like, because at that time during, during the pandemic, you know, that's when Bobby was really questioning these types of.

• 2:15:07Bill Maher?

  Protocols.

• 2:15:07Speaker 03

  Ideas, yeah, protocols. And, uh...

• 2:15:11Bill Maher?

  Distancing.

• 2:15:12Speaker 03

  Distancing.

• 2:15:12Bill Maher?

  I mean, all of it was proved to be a bunch of bullshit. Now, some of it was, yes, at the beginning, we didn't know what it was. Uh, but there definitely was a point at which we could have been like...

• 2:15:24Speaker 03

  Pivoted.

• 2:15:25Bill Maher?

  Pivoted.

• 2:15:26Speaker 03

  Right, because at the beginning, because at the beginning, nobody knew. And it was like, we've never seen this before. And everybody was on board, and it's like, wow, we have never seen this before. And then, as time went on, you could watch some of the governors, which, once again, insider, looking out, learning about, you know, really understanding what governors do, as opposed to... So you watch some of the governors...

• 2:15:49Bill Maher?

  Governors have the power.

• 2:15:50Speaker 03

  They really do. So state to state, you watch them make decisions about their state. We're gonna stay locked down, Newsom, we're gonna stay locked down. Uh, everybody, you know, as a social distance, we're gonna keep the, the schools locked down, the businesses locked down. And then you had other governors, and I only know this...

• 2:16:09Bill Maher?

  I went to Florida as soon as I...

• 2:16:10Speaker 03

  Me too!

• 2:16:11Bill Maher?

  As soon as I could.

• 2:16:11Speaker 03

  And so, me too!

• 2:16:12Bill Maher?

  And it felt like a different world. California, I felt like I was in Attica.

• 2:16:17Speaker 03

  That is...

• 2:16:18Bill Maher?

  Like boarded up windows, and it's like, please.

• 2:16:21Speaker 03

  I know.

• 2:16:22Bill Maher?

  Eating in the parking, the parking lot. Yeah, this is gonna change a lot. I'm in the parking lot, you fucking assholes.

• 2:16:30Speaker 03

  Well, the same. I went to Florida, 'cause my whole family lives in Florida. And when I got there, like, my sister and I went to, I don't know, Target or something like that, and I got my mask out, and she said, "What are you doing?" I said, "I'm just, you know, getting my ma- mask out." She goes, "Nobody does that. Like, you don't have to do that here." And I was like, "Really? That's crazy." And, you know, I walked through, and some people had a mask on, which is fine. If that's what you wanna do, and that makes you feel more comfortable, then do that. But the, the difference between, you know, DeSantis and, and Newsom was, like, stark, right? And you have, and even people on the beaches in, in California...

• 2:17:15Bill Maher?

  Beaches were the best place.

• 2:17:16Speaker 03

  No, but people were still required to wear a mask.

• 2:17:19Bill Maher?

  I understand.

• 2:17:20Speaker 03

  In Florida, it was like, no, go out to the beach and like get some sun and.

• 2:17:25Bill Maher?

  Sun and fresh air. As opposed to staying inside and day drinking and the, which is going to make, everybody put on like 15 pounds. The worst thing in an epidemic that killed two kinds of people. Old and fat.

• 2:17:40Speaker 03

  Obese.

• 2:17:41Bill Maher?

  Old and fat.

• 2:17:42Speaker 03

  And that's what was weird. It was like, so you would think in that moment that people be, or the country, or, you know, the governors or whomever would say, oh, okay. People need to be at a healthy weight to survive COVID, to survive anything.

• 2:18:02Bill Maher?

  I suggested make it a national challenge. You love challenges on TikTok. You know, hey, here's the stick something up your ass challenge. Great. It's what all the kids are doing here, you know, eat horse manure challenge. Okay. Do that. How about, you know what, we're in a pandemic which kills obese. The fatter you were, the worse chances you had. Let's all lose 15. And they never even mentioned it.

• 2:18:33Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 2:18:34Bill Maher?

  So don't expect my respect for you, government. If you can't even mention a key factor. I did editorials about that, of course. The usual suspects aided me for that. Because we were still in the age of body positivity. Was there ever a more Orwellian idea than that fatness is positivity? It's, you know, like.

• 2:18:56Speaker 03

  It is, it is, you know, that being said, as a woman.

• 2:19:04Bill Maher?

  Who's not fat? What?

• 2:19:07Speaker 03

  Okay, but, eh, you know, the idea that you're judging somebody by how they look.

• 2:19:14Bill Maher?

  I'm not judging them.

• 2:19:15Speaker 03

  I know. But if somebody's a...

• 2:19:18Bill Maher?

  Beauty's in the eye of the beholder. Science is not.

• 2:19:22Speaker 03

  Oh, now you sound like Bobby. This is like...

• 2:19:26Bill Maher?

  Science is not in the... Well, I would...

• 2:19:28Speaker 03

  Because Bobby's like, eh...

• 2:19:31Bill Maher?

  If only he would always go by the science.

• 2:19:34Speaker 03

  He does.

• 2:19:35Bill Maher?

  Not always. Not always. But we don't forget some minutia. But, but, um... No, I mean, beauty, yes. I mean, absolutely. Everybody should enjoy what they enjoy.

• 2:19:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, you don't have to be... But that's talking about the pendulum swinging. So the pendulum was swinging to body positivity. Like, I weigh three hundred pounds and I'm okay with it, so you should be okay with it. I just think when the pendulum was swinging to body positivity and somebody said, "I weigh three hundred pounds."

• 2:20:11Bill Maher?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:20:12Speaker 03

  It shouldn't bother you.

• 2:20:14Bill Maher?

  Right, it doesn't.

• 2:20:15Speaker 03

  Right, it doesn't. But is it healthy? I don't...

• 2:20:18Bill Maher?

  But, but no, that's what I mean about the science is not in the eye of the beholder. The science doesn't care about your feelings. The science is... And I did an editorial about this before COVID. I said, this was like a year before COVID, and James Corden attacked me viciously. Very similar to the way, uh, who's this attacked you? Very similar. Like a real nasty...

• 2:20:43Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:20:43Bill Maher?

  Yes. Like, you know, uh, he should like, you know, he's worrying about the shit we put in our mouth. He should worry about the shit that comes out of his mouth, you know, kind of like... And it's such an easy argument to make. And all I was doing was presenting the facts. I was saying, this was during the, I think, the 2018 campaign of midterms and the Democrats were debating each other and the big issue was healthcare. And I just said... You can talk about healthcare till you're blue in the face and which person has the better program. It will never get solved until you enlist the help of the people themselves.

• 2:21:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:21:21Bill Maher?

  In making their health better.

• 2:21:22Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:21:23Bill Maher?

  And the fact that you don't even, won't even mention.

• 2:21:26Speaker 03

  Won't even talk about that.

• 2:21:27Bill Maher?

  The obesity issue because it would offend people.

• 2:21:31Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:21:31Bill Maher?

  Then you have no, I don't respect you. And then I gave the statistics. It's like, even before COVID, obesity affects everything in your health really badly.

• 2:21:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:21:42Bill Maher?

  From eyesight to depression, like everything has affected.

• 2:21:45Speaker 03

  Right, diabetes.

• 2:21:46Bill Maher?

  So of course, when a pandemic came around.

• 2:21:49Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:21:49Bill Maher?

  It was gonna take the fatties first.

• 2:21:52Speaker 03

  I'm so glad I was not drinking while you said that. Thank, thank you. Thank you, Universe.

• 2:21:59Bill Maher?

  This is a show for truth. This is a truthful show. And the, on the very old, you know? And if I was a fat old person, I would get the vaccine too.

• 2:22:09Speaker 03

  Which, which by the way, people that were vulnerable, those are the people that should have gotten the vaccine and people who had

• 2:22:20Speaker 03

  natural immunity, who had already had it.

• 2:22:22Bill Maher?

  Oh.

• 2:22:22Speaker 03

  Who were in great health, who, you know, the, maybe they, maybe we should have taken a step back and said, you're already healthy. You're gonna be okay. You don't need this.

• 2:22:34Bill Maher?

  And it's not even saying you're against it.

• 2:22:37Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:22:37Bill Maher?

  The, the mature answer is that, of course, medical interventions, especially of the last hundred years, are valuable. I don't wanna live in a world without antibiotics. I also don't wanna take antibiotics.

• 2:22:51Speaker 03

  If I don't have to.

• 2:22:52Bill Maher?

  But if I don't, yeah, right.

• 2:22:53Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:22:54Bill Maher?

  But if I have to, I'm very glad they're around.

• 2:22:56Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:22:56Bill Maher?

  I don't wanna have a vaccine unless I really think.

• 2:23:00Speaker 03

  I have to.

• 2:23:01Bill Maher?

  There are things out there that I would like fight you for the vaccine. You know, but COVID.

• 2:23:07Speaker 03

  Not area. No, I'm just. That was a bad joke at your expense.

• 2:23:13Bill Maher?

  I love a bad joke at my expense. That's what makes this show work. That's why we're number one in the morning.

• 2:23:20Speaker 03

  We're number one. What is it called?

• 2:23:24Bill Maher?

  Number one. That's what it's called, number one, lady.

• 2:23:27Speaker 03

  No, what's the name of our show? It's a terrible name, A Fester.

• 2:23:30Bill Maher?

  Oh, Fester.

• 2:23:31Speaker 03

  Don't let it fester, just fester.

• 2:23:33Bill Maher?

  We had another name before that.

• 2:23:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, we had another name.

• 2:23:36Bill Maher?

  But, I mean.

• 2:23:36Speaker 03

  We'll never know because.

• 2:23:37Bill Maher?

  I don't know.

• 2:23:38Speaker 03

  Drunken Stone and. When we review the tape.

• 2:23:43Bill Maher?

  Wrap it up.

• 2:23:44Speaker 03

  Bill, here's what we're gonna know. When we watch this tape back, which neither one of us will do.

• 2:23:49Bill Maher?

  Ever.

• 2:23:51Speaker 03

  We're gonna know that we're gonna have

• 2:23:55Speaker 03

  a morning show. It's only gonna be on Mondays for some reason.

• 2:23:59Bill Maher?

  No, Mondays.

• 2:24:00Speaker 03

  And it's gonna be, and we're gonna shoot it.

• 2:24:02Bill Maher?

  No, Mondays is the day that we ask how, if your weekend included any festering.

• 2:24:08Speaker 03

  Festering.

• 2:24:09Bill Maher?

  But, you know, these are just ideas.

• 2:24:11Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:24:12Bill Maher?

  These are just ideas.

• 2:24:13Speaker 03

  We're gonna shoot it at three in the morning because we figure that nothing is gonna happen from three till six, nine the next day. And we're gonna predict what's gonna happen the next day. And we're gonna say, here's what's probably happening today. Here's what's probably happening today. And then we'll give our best guesses, which we'll probably be right.

• 2:24:33Bill Maher?

  It's actually a good idea.

• 2:24:35Speaker 03

  No, it's a great idea.

• 2:24:36Bill Maher?

  It actually really.

• 2:24:37Speaker 03

  I wish I could remember the name of our show. To Just Let It Fester, Don't Let It Fester. This is what festered.

• 2:24:43Bill Maher?

  All right, I'm gonna squash the fester part of it. That was.

• 2:24:46Speaker 03

  It's not attractive.

• 2:24:47Bill Maher?

  It's not.

• 2:24:48Speaker 03

  But the first one was more attractive.

• 2:24:50Bill Maher?

  I don't remember what that one was.

• 2:24:52Speaker 03

  Nobody does. It was like.

• 2:24:54Bill Maher?

  It's on tape somewhere. But, um, spit take, we could call it.

• 2:25:00Speaker 03

  By the way, there are three spit takes in this show.

• 2:25:04Bill Maher?

  That's where I know it was a good time. Well, thank you. I kept you here, I'm sure, longer than I should have.

• 2:25:11Speaker 03

  I would love to just keep talking to you.

• 2:25:12Bill Maher?

  I would too. I just, I could feel the crew getting restless.

• 2:25:19Speaker 03

  They're like, literally rapping, trying to go home.

• 2:25:21Bill Maher?

  Yeah, can we go home? We have to go to the bathroom.

• 2:25:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:25:25Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I could do it all night, but uh.

• 2:25:27Speaker 03

  Hey, good. That's what I've heard about you. Good night, everybody. Hey. Okay.

• 2:25:33Bill Maher?

  All right. And if you haven't heard by now.

• 2:25:36Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:25:37Bill Maher?

  Unscripted by Cheryl Hines, it's. It's so.

• 2:25:41Speaker 03

  It's a page turner.

• 2:25:42Bill Maher?

  I read it while.

• 2:25:44Speaker 03

  You have not, but you know what?

• 2:25:46Bill Maher?

  I just got it. I'm gonna read it. I'm not gonna read comments.

• 2:25:49Speaker 03

  You know, there's.

• 2:25:56Speaker 03

  There's an audio version too, if you just wanna listen while you're making spaghetti.

• 2:25:59Bill Maher?

  I would never do that.

• 2:26:00Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:26:01Bill Maher?

  I like, no.

• 2:26:02Speaker 03

  You like the words?

• 2:26:03Bill Maher?

  I like, yeah.

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