Fraud Friday: The Failed Mob Music Mogul w/ Diallo Riddle

This week, Diallo Riddle joins us to discuss a legendary con artist who used his ties to notorious crime families in the US to pose as a major music executive, gaining fame and access to lavish perks around the world. Plus, an anonymous group walked away with $3.81 million after creating a viral cryptocurrency named after the popular Netflix show Squid Game. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 11/22/2021) CON-gregation, catch Laci's new TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Diallo Riddle: @diallo Research by Kaelyn Brandt. Sources: https://gizmodo.com/squid-game-cryptocurrency-scammers-make-off-with-2-1-m-1847972824 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jimmy-sabatino-con-man-sentenced-supermax-prison/ https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article184431698.html https://www.wired.com/2008/03/la-times-appare/ https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/hip-hop-poseur-jimmy-sabatino-cant-stop-scamming-even-from-prison-6393917 https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/con-kid-6366268 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2776416/Career-man-posed-music-label-exec-scam-Miami-hotels-600-000-presidential-suites-champagne-room-service-sentenced-five-years-prison.html https://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/11/24/confessions-of-a-con-man/ https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/jimmy-sabatino-accused-yet-again-of-pretending-to-be-record-exec-from-prison-cell-8582893

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• 0:03Speaker 00

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• 1:01Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 1:43Laci Mosley?

  What is poppin', congregation? Welcome to another installment of Scam Goddess. It's me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, and this is the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and the people who perform it. Get on stage! And I am very what? Yes, excited. Call and response. Does this give us like a weird internet relationship? Am I Steve from Blue's Clues? I hope I'm your Steve from Blue's Clues. How y'all doin' today? Did you have a good day? Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Oh yes, girl. Yes, them. Yes, non-binary icons and ease. Uh, guys, I'm very, yes, excited for today's guest. Today, we have an Emmy and WGA nominated writer, actor, showrunner, and moonlight DJ.

• 2:25Laci Mosley?

  You'll see him in season two of the hilarious show Southside, which is one of my, oh my God, one of my favorite TV shows, like seriously ever, okay? The Office could never. Also, Diallo can be seen in IFC's upcoming series Sherman Showcase, which he co-created as the executive producer with his writer partner, Bashir. I ain't never been able to say his last name and I work with him.

• 2:44Speaker 03

  Salahuddin.

• 2:45Laci Mosley?

  Salahuddin, thank you. Season two, Salahuddin. Bashir, I love you. Uh, season two of Sherman Showcase returns in 2022. Congregation, please welcome Diallo Riddle. Hi, Diallo.

• 2:57Speaker 03

  Hey, thank you for having me on the show. It's been a long time coming.

• 2:59Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. It's been truly like, I, I mean, I had Drop It Low for Jesus on here with Yvonne, you know, just slowly putting my little seeds.

• 3:06Speaker 03

  I was like, honestly, I, I gotta get on the show now because like, it always makes me happy to know that Drop It Low for Jesus has a whole life of its own, even if some people don't even know it's from Sherman Showcase, but like, it, it, it came off of that show and the process that we had for that show. We, we, we can get into it, but like, it's a bunch of music nerds. It's a bunch of music nerds talking about music, coming up with ideas for insane music that, uh, I'm glad, I'm glad y'all talked about it.

• 3:28Laci Mosley?

  Beautiful song, iconic canon. I actually didn't know when I first, uh, found out about it. If you don't know, Sherman Showcase is a like sketch comedy show. We can call it that, right?

• 3:36Speaker 03

  Absolutely, absolutely.

• 3:38Laci Mosley?

  And like, it's absolutely hilarious. If you haven't seen it, please get into it because it's fucking phenomenal. And there's like music and there's dancing and you guys are doing all this creative stuff. I love that show.

• 3:47Speaker 03

  It's kind of like a different kind of sketch show because like, as opposed to like, lights up, lights down sketch shows, like it all takes place on the set of a show that's a lot like Soul Train or Solid Gold. So, we do everything sort of couched in this conceit that like, this is a real show and you should be watching it. But by the way, we're gonna make songs that are like dope. Like, we always wanted to be like the Lonely Island guys and do songs that like were good enough for me to spin as a DJ. And I, and I got the chance to spin them on the BBC, uh, Radio One, um, as actual songs, so.

• 4:18Laci Mosley?

  They are actual songs. They're fire.

• 4:20Speaker 03

  And like Drop It Low For Jesus, literally came from Bashir's sister who was like, so this is a song idea I have called Drop It Low For Jesus, because we can drop it low for all these galawags out here. We can drop it low for him. And we were all laughing and I immediately called up my friend Brisha Webb, who's like a close friend of mine from a TV show we did. And I was just like, Brisha, you're religious in ways that I have never been. I was like, maybe you want to tell me if this is a great song idea. And she was laughing at it. So I was like, okay, so we're going for it. But obviously, a lot of people didn't realize that it was a joke. Like it was a, not a joke, but like, a lot of people thought it was like a legitimate singing artist coming out with this song. So like, all of us were getting flamed all day, like y'all going to hell, you know.

• 5:01Laci Mosley?

  Come on, we can twerk something for the most.

• 5:02Speaker 03

  With gasoline underwear on, you know, like they were coming at us and we were like, please just watch the show. You know, that's all this is about.

• 5:09Laci Mosley?

  We can crank it for Christ, you know?

• 5:11Speaker 03

  I think so. Oh, well, you know, don't go stealing jokes that we might be using in season two.

• 5:16Laci Mosley?

  We can tooth that thing up one time for the king, okay?

• 5:20Speaker 03

  You can twerk the other cheek. No, we've got all this stuff. We've got all this.

• 5:24Laci Mosley?

  Yes, beautiful. No, the show's so funny. I actually, I put my mom on the South Side. She was visiting me this weekend.

• 5:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:30Laci Mosley?

  And she watched two episodes and she was like, okay, I don't want to watch anymore. And I was like, why? And she was cracking up the whole time. I was like, why? She was like, oh, because your daddy gonna love this. So I gotta watch it with him because he gonna have a good time watching this. I was like, ah.

• 5:43Speaker 03

  I'm glad that's the turn that she made her logic because I was like, that's not the reaction we want from people. Oh, I can't watch this anymore.

• 5:49Laci Mosley?

  No, I was like, how dare you? Okay, with your little 20 year little boo boo marriage going to take my show home with him. Watch it with me. I want to laugh too with you. I've already watched it, but I can watch it over and over again because the jokes are so rapid fire. I'm catching things every single time.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  Well, we try. I mean, like, literally, we put those scripts through such a process so that by the time we're actually shooting them, like, we're well aware, like, we're definitely trying to get as many jokes and just, just funny, like sentiments as, as, as possible. I will say that I'm happy to say, I don't think the show's ever lost a fan. I think that everybody who gives it a shot sticks with it. And I'm happy to say that the people who've seen it like five, six times, season one, like, we're finally presenting season two like now, like coming out this week. November 11th on HBO Max.

• 6:32Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 6:32Speaker 03

  You know, you can watch it on your own time. You don't have to do the Comedy Central thing where like it's like, oh, is it, is it nine, is it 9:00 PM Central Time? Like, you don't have to do the 1978 version of Let Me Find This TV Show. Like, you can watch it on your phone at 3:00 AM at night.

• 6:45Laci Mosley?

  Is it all dropping or is it weekly?

• 6:48Speaker 03

  No, you know, I actually like that, I like the fact that we're not dropping it all at once. We're gonna drop three episodes this week, uh, November 11th. The, the next three episodes come out the following week and then we drop four episodes the third week. So it'll, you know, hopefully people will just be watching it, telling friends and then just building up anticipation for a crazy finale. You know, season two, episode 10 is wild.

• 7:09Laci Mosley?

  If y'all say crazy, then I know it's crazy.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  I know.

• 7:12Laci Mosley?

  Cause you're like joke AKs. It was like

• 7:16Laci Mosley?

  So, I do have to ask you before we really, really get into it.

• 7:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:20Laci Mosley?

  Yella, what's your relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed? Do you like scams? Do you hate them? It could be anything.

• 7:25Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, a couple of things. One, I, I've been saying for the last 20 years, like, don't tell me anything, cause I am, I'm definitely going to snitch. Like, I

• 7:32Laci Mosley?

  Oh no! That's stool pigeon on the show!

• 7:35Speaker 03

  I try to keep the scams as far away from me as possible, cause I just, they never seem to end well for the scammers. I, you know, but, you know, granted, I'm not close enough to the activity to know which scammers came out on top and which came out not on top. But as far as me scamming, I mean, like, I like to think that I've never scammed an individual or anybody who, you know, I, I definitely have, I definitely had a scam, um, you know, when like they first started putting those kiosks in the, in the movie theaters where like you could buy your own ticket and then just walk it up to, you know, some teenager who's just taking a ticket, ripping it in half. I mean, like

• 8:08Laci Mosley?

  Became elderly or a baby.

• 8:09Speaker 03

  Oh, I was always a student. Like, I was a student well past, you know, my ability to

• 8:14Laci Mosley?

  You were a student of life!

• 8:16Speaker 03

  I'm learning, I'm learning. And so I definitely, but here's what's, I told that to a, a fellow writer of mine when we were writers of Jimmy Fallon and, uh, I'll never forget, like, he looked at me with like no sense of humor in his eyes. He was just like, "That's fraud." And I remember like that the the F word, it cut me to the core. I was like, oh my god. Like, I thought he was gonna turn me in. So after that, I started playing, I was such a sucker. I started paying full price for

• 8:41Laci Mosley?

  Why did you do that? Why did you let him guilt you out of your group?

• 8:44Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 8:45Laci Mosley?

  Boo this man!

• 8:45Speaker 03

  I think he got like an internship at Regal Cinemas or something. Cause he looked personally offended by that. You know, there was one other time that I think I should probably break up. Because, once again, I never try to take from anybody who has less than me or anybody unfortunate. But I'll never forget that. Me and Basir were, uh, I'm not gonna say the name, it's gonna kill you, but we were hanging out with a very famous rapper one time. And as comedy writers, you know, we were very broke at that time, you know, we were very broke. But at the end of the night, he was like, hey, we're going to a strip club. And so we're like, okay, this is gonna be fun. And we get to the strip club, and I'll never forget, he like, looked at me and handed me fifteen hundred dollars in ones.

• 9:27Laci Mosley?

  Been there.

• 9:27Speaker 03

  And I was just, and as I held that money in my hands, and I thought about like, the fact that like, I didn't know where the power bill money was. All I could think was, how am I gonna get this fifteen hundred dollars out of the club? I know there's security everywhere. I know he's got security. I know they got like cameras everywhere. I had to figure out how to get this, cause like, the girls were coming around. I was like, no, I'm not ready to throw nothing yet. Like, cause I was like,

• 9:50Laci Mosley?

  You handed out one bill at a time, putting it in their hand. Thank you so much, miss. Thank you for your service.

• 9:56Speaker 03

  Came over and tapped me on the shoulder and was like, hey, you need to get started. Like, I was like, what? That's not a business model is this? Like, y'all get a cut if I throw this fifteen hundred dollars? Cause I know another family that really needs this money right now.

• 10:07Laci Mosley?

  Mine.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  Hey, do you guys know about UNICEF? I know some poor families. Let me, let's, let's talk about some UNICEF money right now.

• 10:14Laci Mosley?

  That's what I'm trying to say, ten cents a day with the strip club money.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  Oh man, for the price of just one very solid pair of shoes. You could make one family living on the west side of LA extremely happy tonight. Just let me go. I know where they live. I'll find them. It was the worst. Oh, man, I just went home so sad that night.

• 10:32Laci Mosley?

  Did you throw it?

• 10:33Speaker 03

  Yes, man. They were all over me. They were all, they were so suspicious. Like, they, they're like, hey, that rider ain't got no lap dances. We know riders want lap dances because they ain't getting lap dances.

• 10:44Laci Mosley?

  He's blocking your lap dances, like.

• 10:47Speaker 03

  I think they had a clicker. I think they had a clicker. And man, that was just the most depressing lap dance you've ever seen, man. The girls were dancing. I was just sitting there like verge of tears.

• 10:58Laci Mosley?

  You better get cinnamon. You better get cinnamon right now or else.

• 11:02Speaker 03

  Just bring Diamond on over again.

• 11:05Laci Mosley?

  Listen, you gotta be more stealthy than that. Gotta be quicker than that. Whenever I've gone to the strip club and I always go with rich, you know, dudes who are frivolous with their money. And, um, they would hand us a stack, especially in college. Like, look, I'm not gonna get, I'm not gonna take no money from the sex workers. I'm gonna take a little bit, but I'm gonna make, I'm gonna give y'all half. And there have been days where I woke up in the hotel with just so much money in my bra and I was like, I did get, I took this money, right?

• 11:31Speaker 03

  Wait, this is money that I took, right? This is not, I didn't earn this.

• 11:35Laci Mosley?

  Did I earn it?

• 11:37Speaker 03

  Please say I didn't earn this money.

• 11:41Laci Mosley?

  I'm not sure. I was very drunk, so I don't know if I earned it or if I took it. But definitely been there. But I'm so sorry that the, uh,

• 11:51Speaker 03

  You know what? I, I'll tell you what. I did ask one, one other person who was with us. Was he another writer who was on that project? I feel like I looked over and I was like, do you think that they like, after you throw it, do you think they're monitoring all the money on the ground? He was like, oh, that, he was like, absolutely. They were like, I've seen dudes kicked out of here like for picking up $1. Like, he was like, you definitely don't want to do that.

• 12:12Laci Mosley?

  It's on the ground. You can't, no, no, no, they'll come get you. You should have went to the bathroom immediately. When he gave you the money, be like, oh, my God, I gotta pee so bad. Be right back.

• 12:19Speaker 03

  Oh, you're right. I should have worked it out with the dude because there's always a dude in the bathroom at the strip club who's like there for like cologne or like, you know, cigarettes, if that's your thing, or candy or like breath mints. I should have worked it out with him. I should have just. Been like, yo, I don't know what happened. I think I've thrown all the money. And then just worked it out with my man, you know, Rufus in the back. That would have probably worked out. You know, I went with a black man because I'm from Atlanta and that's always a black thing in Atlanta. It's the old black man in the strip club bathroom.

• 12:47Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 12:48Speaker 03

  That's a solid guilt.

• 12:49Laci Mosley?

  It is. There's an older black woman in the in the girls restroom. She got everything you need. You need some panties. You need some mouthwash, you know?

• 12:57Speaker 03

  They used to sell DVDs up in there, too. I know I'm dating myself, but I feel like in the late 90s, early 2000s, like you could go in there and buy like shotas. Like you could buy all the hood classics.

• 13:07Laci Mosley?

  Not shotas. Oh, Lord, Jesus.

• 13:09Speaker 03

  That was that was the time.

• 13:10Laci Mosley?

  Scam!

• 13:15Speaker 00

  That sound? That's pro squash. Some of the fastest rallies in sport played inches from the crowd. The National Squash League is back in full swing for season four. The sport is heading to the 2028 Olympics for the first time, and you can see it up close right now in a city near you. Watch every match for free on YouTube. Search National Squash League and hit subscribe or follow live updates on Instagram at nsl.sport.

• 13:43Speaker 04

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• 14:14Laci Mosley?

  Caught! Let's get into our first segment here. What's hot in fraud? This is where we warn our listeners about potential scams popping on the streets. And more often than not these days, we get a letter from y'all. As always, snitch on your friends and family at [email protected]. Just make sure the scam is retired because we don't want to what? Fuck up your bag. That's right. So I need a fake name, Diallo, for this person.

• 14:36Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 14:38Laci Mosley?

  We don't care about gender, so it can be anything.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  Okay, Desmond.

• 14:43Laci Mosley?

  Desmond. So Desmond says, hey, girlie. Not gonna mention anything nice cuz your ass ain't gonna read it on the pod anyways. Full of laughing emojis. Y'all, y'all can still write the nice stuff. I'll be reading it, but I just don't like read compliments about myself. It just feels bizarre.

• 14:59Speaker 03

  That says a lot, that says a lot about you. I, I appreciate that.

• 15:02Laci Mosley?

  Right, like I'm not gonna take up y'all time reading stuff about me. So, uh, this is the second scam I've submitted. Okay, so this is the second scam that I've read from this person. Um, what's his, what's his name again? Y'all, what was his name?

• 15:13Speaker 03

  I said Desmond, but.

• 15:15Laci Mosley?

  Desmond. So this is the second scam I've read from Desmond. Desmond, you've got some good scams cuz I'll be reading them and just being intrigued, honey. Love it. So, uh, Desmond said, "I was the cum dump robbing Wells Fargo back in the meatball episode." Wow. Okay. What a sentence. Um.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  There's so much to unpack in just that one sentence. If I was on the podcast, I'd be hitting that, you know, back 15 seconds to just break all that down.

• 15:40Laci Mosley?

  Right. Cum dump. "I was the cum dump robbing Wells Fargo back on the meatball episode." So Meatball is, uh, uh, the drag performer name for one of my friends. But yeah, that was a, that's a ride of a sentence, Desmond. So, "Back when I was in high school, I was a shift leader at Dairy Queen. Side note, I'm a Texas native like you, but from Lubbock, not Dallas." Okay, I know where Lubbock is. Shout out to Lubbock. Y'all be having the Colts. Ew, ew. Love that for y'all. Come on, Colt gang. So anyways, back then I was a huge pod head, or pothead, excuse me. "I've since stopped now and just do the booger sugar." What?

• 16:17Speaker 03

  Oh no. You know what? Can I, can I warn all future guests of, of, of this show? Like, don't, don't use any of your children's names. Cuz this is, this is going way south. I don't know why I did that.

• 16:32Laci Mosley?

  Wait, okay. How you gonna say you quit pot? Like, like it's such a bad thing and then you're just gonna be like, yeah, nah, I just do cocaine now. I think you should've stuck with pot. I feel as though one is safer. One is a little bit safer.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  Nobody has ever said, "Oh, how's, how's our boy doing? Oh, he's way better. He's giving up weed. He's taking up coke." Like, that's never, that sentence doesn't exist.

• 16:52Laci Mosley?

  It doesn't. You're really giving the gateway drug people something to talk about because wow. So it says, "I worked alongside a pill popper. When we worked together long enough, she pulled me into her side hustle at work. Well, she called it a side hustle, but we were really just robbing the joint." Okay. I love branding. But we would take phone orders and just ring them up when the customer came to pick up the order through the window. Well, this old bitch had been there so long and eventually I was there long enough to be able to do the same. So she knew the price is down to the tax. So when they came to pick up the order, we asked her cash or card. If they said cash, then we would just act like we were ringing it up, take the cash, open the register. As a shift leader, my codes could open the register without actually ringing anything

• 17:35Laci Mosley?

  up and just provide them with change. And no, we ain't got no receipt.

• 17:42Laci Mosley?

  Our printer is down if they ask for a receipt.

• 17:46Speaker 03

  You'd be like, man, this food is fantastic, but the, but the register's never working.

• 17:51Laci Mosley?

  It's like the ice cream machine at McDonald's, like.

• 17:55Laci Mosley?

  Right, they said, our, our register down, we actually can't print our receipts. We out of paper. Would you like me to write it down for you though? I could write you a receipt and sign it, Mr. Dairy Queen. Sign it, the queen.

• 18:07Speaker 03

  People, people be keeping those handwritten receipts all the time.

• 18:12Speaker 03

  Come tax time.

• 18:13Laci Mosley?

  You're doing a work order and you go back into work and like, this is the receipt. Debbie, why is it handwritten? And look, this is what they gave me, okay? And then they told me to drive away quick. And I don't, I don't know why, but that's, that's what I was told. So, and this is so funny because I feel like Dairy Queen is the perfect place to do this, especially in Texas. I'm out my mom. My mom worked at a Dairy Queen in Texas when she was in high school. And there would be like a chili day, cause my mom's a fantastic cook. And she would make chili and people would come buy her chili from her. And I was like, um, mama, I feel as though, so did they know you was doing this?

• 18:50Laci Mosley?

  How you have a chili Tuesday at somebody's food chain? At someone's chain restaurant?

• 18:55Speaker 03

  That's wild, except that it was probably bomb chili. So at the end of the day, yeah.

• 19:01Laci Mosley?

  Nobody was mad.

• 19:02Speaker 03

  No, nobody was mad. I was driving down the street, taking my kids home from soccer practice and I saw old black couple set up on the side of the road in, in the valley in California. We know that that's not something very typical in the valley in California. And, uh, and I ended up buying like all this whole food.

• 19:19Laci Mosley?

  Black people were like.

• 19:20Speaker 03

  Just straight, just straight up old black couple, like it looked like they were fresh out of Louisiana. They said Creole food here, which is just, it was just kind of a suspicious sign, but then I was just like, man, I could really go for some Creole food. So I went there and got the shrimp etouffee and the gumbo and it was fantastic. And I went back the next weekend and they weren't there anymore. So I hope it worked out. I'm sure they got cited for something, but that food was fantastic.

• 19:43Laci Mosley?

  They do want to pop up on the side of the road, like, yeah.

• 19:46Speaker 03

  It ain't the pandemic anymore. I feel like the cops are gonna be on that.

• 19:49Laci Mosley?

  Right, but listen, there's some hood spots that, you know, you go in and it just make you a plate. I remember in my cousin's neighborhood, there was the candy lady and we would just go to her window at the side of her house and buy candy.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  Are you kidding me? Okay, so I'm not trying, I'm really not trying to put my show like this hard. But we have a whole song dedicated to the candy lady in season two of Southside.

• 20:08Laci Mosley?

  Stop.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  I kid you not. I kid you not. Episode eight with Lil Rel. With Lil Rel and then, yeah, we have a whole episode dedicated essentially to the candy lady. So, yeah, you're talking our language now. That's, that's.

• 20:20Laci Mosley?

  Oh, man, I can't wait to watch this.

• 20:21Speaker 03

  That is exactly what we always said Southside was gonna be the show where everybody had a side hustle. Cause I don't know many people who, you know, don't have some form of side hustle. I mean, like, we were talking to one, one lady who was like, yeah, I'm a kindergarten teacher, you know, but I also make these vegan cookies. Y'all want some? Like, it's just like, people come up with the, with the, with the hustle immediately. Cause like, nobody's really doing what they want to do. There's always like this other project, this other thing that they got going on.

• 20:47Laci Mosley?

  Listen, we talked about a lady on here who's, I did this with, uh, Lamoren Morris, whose side hustle was she do braces. And she was on Facebook talking about I do braces. I said, nigga, how do you do braces? Like, I feel like you gotta be an orthodontist. Like, how you just doing braces?

• 21:02Speaker 03

  It's one thing to have a hustle, it's another thing to be like completely fraudulent. Like, that's malpractice. You should not be doing homemade braces. That's.

• 21:11Laci Mosley?

  That was her side hustle. She did braces.

• 21:14Speaker 03

  Okay, so again.

• 21:16Laci Mosley?

  Y'all need some braces or what?

• 21:17Speaker 03

  It's outside season two. Uh, anybody who's watched the show, you know, they work at a RIN, RIN, RIN center essentially.

• 21:23Laci Mosley?

  RTO.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  And they, they have a truck. They have a big old truck to repossess stuff if you don't pay on time. But these dudes, once again, try to like, you know, get as many hustles into a 24 hour period as possible. So it's rather the subject of, of, of, of healthcare, you know, in the hood. Not everybody has insurance. Not everybody wants a $1,200 ambulance ride. And so.

• 21:43Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 21:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, we addressed that in episode two.

• 21:46Laci Mosley?

  Yes, let's finish out this crazy story that Desmond uh sent us because I'm just so enamored. Okay, so they said we ain't got no receipt printer down, you know, we'll write it out or some, you know, like we'll text it to you if you want it. It's gonna come from my personal cell. Uh, but we'll get you a receipt if you need it. So well, at the end of the night, I would close out the day and whatever reflected over on the deposit went straight into my pockets, then to my weed dealer. Cameras never worked in the place and every time they got fixed, they broke after a week. So yeah, I just thought I'd share that DQ really was what I like about Texas because I didn't stay for weed for years working there. Side note, I was still a cum dump then, oh god, fucked all the cooks in the walk-in, so hopefully you wouldn't.

• 22:31Laci Mosley?

  He was never in Lubbock at a DQ because your shit probably came in contact at some point with something. It wasn't supposed to. Yeah, I know that's nasty as hell, but I get a laugh out of it anyways. Stay Schemin, kissy faces, not you fucking on the patties. Not you, man, fucking on the uh, what do they call that? The blizzards?

• 22:50Speaker 03

  No, no, Derrick Queen.

• 22:54Speaker 03

  My sister used to work at Derrick Queen, so we used to get a lot of free ice cream, but then, you know, she got robbed at gunpoint at Derrick Queen, so Derrick Queen apparently a lot more wild than uh, than you would, you would think.

• 23:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's like Popeyes can get like that too. There's some Popeyes.

• 23:09Speaker 03

  Oh, Popeyes been sketchy. And I'm sorry, Derrick, Popeyes is always sketchy. What's crazy is I feel like Popeyes is different around the country because like Popeyes in Louisiana or in Georgia, like that, that food tastes amazing. Popeyes in Los Angeles is garbage. Like, it's like some of the most questionable Popeyes on the planet and

• 23:28Laci Mosley?

  They ain't putting that extra seasoning on it like they do in the South.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  Mm, they don't, they don't really know what they're doing. You, you order the red beans and rice at a Popeyes in Los Angeles, you asking for trouble because that's

• 23:36Laci Mosley?

  You really are.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  It doesn't even taste different. No.

• 23:39Laci Mosley?

  I went to a Popeyes once somewhere, maybe it was in New York or maybe it was in Atlanta. It was probably in Atlanta. I went to a Popeyes that was so secure because clearly they had had many robberies. And I felt like I was at a goddamn bank. But I tell you, like, when I went to get the food, they had the bulletproof glass. And then it was like, they put the food in like this little turntable. And then you had to put your card in the turntable, then they turn it around, and then they turn it around again and give you your food. I was like, god damn.

• 24:07Speaker 03

  You're absolutely right. You only see that in banks and Popeyes, that rotating glass thing.

• 24:14Laci Mosley?

  Banks and Popeyes, the most secure work environments on the planet.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  Popeyes is like, not today. Look, you might have been able to rob us during the Reagan administration, but we're gonna be so secure.

• 24:26Laci Mosley?

  Nah, we got security now, bro. We got bulletproof glass, come here with a gun if you want to.

• 24:31Speaker 03

  That was before COVID. I don't even know what the protocols they got. There's probably like one person in, one person out.

• 24:37Laci Mosley?

  They didn't even need no COVID protocols. They always had the glass up.

• 24:41Speaker 03

  We've been six feet away from you. Been six feet away since ninety seven.

• 24:46Laci Mosley?

  Since ninety seven. That was the last Popeyes that got shot up. We said, we learned.

• 24:50Speaker 03

  You ain't see Popeyes in the news for anything negative, and that's why.

• 24:54Laci Mosley?

  Right, other than people killing each other over them chicken sandwiches.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  They're probably gonna figure out a way, like, when you go to those drive-through banks where like you stick the money in the tube and it goes down. That's how they're gonna get your chicken to you at Popeyes in the future.

• 25:08Laci Mosley?

  They shoot it at you. They're like, alright, now you wait here for the tube to come back down.

• 25:12Speaker 03

  Chicken tube gun. Chicken tube gun, let's go.

• 25:17Laci Mosley?

  One of my favorite sketches, um, that Mark Phillips, because he's so funny. He did a Popeyes sketch. It was like Popeyes versus Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A's like, how may I help you? Can I mow your lawn? Like, we love you. And then Popeyes was like, welcome Popeyes, what do you want? Hurry up.

• 25:31Speaker 03

  Hey, is he the one who did the one, the difference between like UPS and FedEx? Cause I think about that, I think about that one all the time. I think it was UPS came up there singing Gucci Mane. It was, it was, it was OJ the Juice Man. It was one of those other cats. Oh man.

• 25:48Laci Mosley?

  He's like, fuck you want this Popeyes. He was like, this is what I order. You better take your chicken and go bitch. He was like, can I have some sauce? He's like, sauce? We ain't got no sauce. Like, that man could yell about anything and I'm like, yes.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  We're there for it.

• 26:00Laci Mosley?

  Him yelling at LeBron, uh, that LeBron sketch, he was like, I'm 36. I was like, I, this man is a genius. Robbery.

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• 27:09Laci Mosley?

  And it's time for my favorite segment, historic hoodwinds. This is where I'm gonna regale Diallo with some nonsense and we'll see how he feels. All right. So, uh, that fell off towards the end. Y'all, y'all know.

• 27:25Speaker 03

  No, I, okay, it was historic.

• 27:27Laci Mosley?

  We also be singing on this show. I be singing on this show. I be doing things.

• 27:29Speaker 03

  I totally forgot about that. I got songs for days. Let's go.

• 27:32Laci Mosley?

  Me, me, me. Okay, uh, so today, we are talking about Jimmy Sabatino. He's a legendary con artist raised among two of the most notorious crime families in the country and was obsessed with fame as an adult. That's a bad combo. That's a bad combo, Jimmy. Like, something I just realized is like, there are scammers, like, because you were saying earlier, like, with scams, like, they don't ever end well for the scammer. I think that they don't end well when we know about them.

• 28:02Speaker 03

  Right, we have no idea.

• 28:04Laci Mosley?

  It's a lot of murderers out here. Like, the chances are very high that you've met a murderer, like, somebody who was, like, doing hella murders. Yeah, it's crazy. And so, if they're not caught, then they get away with it. So there's hella scammers who aren't caught and they get away with it. I know some scammers who put me onto some shit. I can't say too much, but they still out here criming and I'm proud of them.

• 28:27Laci Mosley?

  And it's, it's so funny. I can tell when someone's a scammer just by, like, hanging around them, like, where are you getting all this money from? You don't work normal hours. Like, certain things start to add up to me. And because of scam goddess, I can literally talk to, like, I can't say too much, but somebody that I know was dating somebody and we were hanging out with them and I was like, do you do crime? And he was like, yeah, I can teach you some things. You scam goddess, right? And I was like, yeah, let's talk.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  You know what? It's so ironic because I feel like I just have the opposite energy. Like, people do not come to me and ever say, hey, you do crime. Like, I just don't throw out that crime.

• 29:00Laci Mosley?

  Well, you don't do crime.

• 29:01Speaker 03

  I, I, first off,

• 29:02Laci Mosley?

  Right?

• 29:03Speaker 03

  I think I'm easily readable as a person who does not do crime. I think, you know, but...

• 29:08Laci Mosley?

  You let a man shame you into buying full-price movie theater tickets. So, yeah, you don't do crime.

• 29:14Speaker 03

  Comedy writer. I mean, that's the lowest form of another man.

• 29:19Laci Mosley?

  You should have just shamed him back. If you had shamed him back, you would have won and been like, bro, like, what? I'm black. We didn't even get reparations.

• 29:25Speaker 03

  You know what's crazy? I, I, I got dirt on him like about three months later and the only person that knows is my wife. I was like, you know what that motherfucker told me?

• 29:32Laci Mosley?

  It's always the people being pious and being extra who doing the dirt cuz they trying to give off the facade that they're not. So, um, this is a legendary con artist. Guys, fame and scams don't go together. If you are gonna be a scammer, you gotta live quietly.

• 29:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think a scammer wants to be famous is almost like that. That just seems like the worst.

• 29:53Laci Mosley?

  That's not a good plan. Like, you gotta do your crime like this, as a whisper.

• 29:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, we, we, we, we saw that movie with Denzel where his wife was like, put on the, put on the fur jacket and it all fell down after that.

• 30:05Laci Mosley?

  Right. Don't put on the fur jacket.

• 30:07Speaker 03

  I saw American Gangster. I was like, nah, you shouldn't put on that jacket.

• 30:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that fur, that fur jacket was an omen. Don't put on that fur jacket. Now, you know, white people always are concerned if black people got money. That's my favorite game to play. Kenny Barris put that in one of his shows and it was like they were on a private plane or something and the stewardess kept being like, or excuse me, the flight attendant kept being like, oh, so what do y'all do? Are you a rapper? Like, white people love to try to figure out how you have money and it happens to me all the time. I mean, I'm poor, guys, remember? But, um, they be like, oh, so what do you do? Like, you know, sometimes I just be like, you know, I'm in, um, insurance. Like, I just be lying cuz it's fun. I'll say some of that I know don't make no money.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  Listen, Mashir, Mashir was getting married and they decided they wanted to get married, you know, next to this beautiful lake in Montana, which is like, you know. So we all, so everybody who knew him and me and everybody, we all went up to this beautiful lake in Montana, which is, has a little nice town next to it. And for that whole weekend, everywhere we went, people were like, asking us like, we hear there's a rapper getting married. We hear it's Wiz Khalifa.

• 31:08Laci Mosley?

  No, Wiz Khalifa.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  Nah, I ain't no Wiz Khalifa getting married. It's a, it's a black comedy writer. He's, he's kinda, he's kinda cool.

• 31:19Laci Mosley?

  He rapped though cuz how did he get the money? We don't be paying black people. Why'd he get the money?

• 31:23Speaker 03

  I was like, no, he did a lot of singing on Jimmy Fallon. That was how we got the money.

• 31:28Laci Mosley?

  We would like to know how he got money because we make it a habit not to pay negroes. So we need to know what hap- what went wrong. Correct.

• 31:36Speaker 03

  Can I get this drink to go, sir? Thank you.

• 31:38Laci Mosley?

  Right. So he's obsessed with fame, right? His long career began at an early age. He's, and he's just become infamous since. So Jimmy Sabatino grew up a member of the Col- oh, the Colombo crime family? Oh, we know the Columbos, honey. We love the Columbos on this show. I actually talked to a Columbo because the Columbo, like the oldest, like whoever was running like the crime family when the whole McMillians thing was happening. If you heard about the like defrauding McDonald's out of all of those instant win monopoly game pieces? Have you heard about that?

• 32:07Speaker 03

  I have heard something about that.

• 32:09Laci Mosley?

  So the leader of that crime family, his nephew actually reached out to me on Twitter and we was chopping it up after I did the McMillians episode. I was like, oh my God, yes, let's chat. Like, I love when criminals reach out and be like, what's good?

• 32:23Speaker 03

  How did that even work again? They were just literally just hoarding the chips? They were hoarding little play pieces?

• 32:27Laci Mosley?

  So there was a man who, um, was, oh God, I'm losing his name right now. But he, um, was in charge of security of the game pieces. So the instant, the million ones, he would have like in this like special jacket that he created, which like, why do they let him make a jacket? And, and he would go to the bathroom because he had an auditor with him, but the bathroom, the woman, the auditor was a woman. That's why we need to neutralize gender bathrooms. And so she couldn't follow him.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  She couldn't go inside.

• 32:52Laci Mosley?

  So he would go in there and he would switch the million dollar pieces with other pieces. And then he got like, uh, a family of Mormons, a butcher, a nice little black lady, like all these people involved because he couldn't actually claim the winnings. So he would have them claim it and he would take a percentage. Um, and so like, and then eventually the mob got involved. So the Columbo family was involved in the McMillian scam. So I'm like, okay. So he's a member of this crime family and close to the Gambino family. Two of five major crime families that dominated the organization of crime in New York City. Yes, come on, crime dynasties. Love to see it. Uh, a note, the five families have run New York since they were established by Salvatore Man- Maranzino, excuse me, in 1931. Jimmy grew up with them in the eighties and nineties. I love like nepotistic crime.

• 33:37Laci Mosley?

  It's like, our family does crime. You're going to get in the business of crime. And you know, if, if your family is like Rupert Murdoch, you probably going to end up working for a newspaper or something like, it makes sense.

• 33:47Speaker 03

  A hundred percent, a hundred percent. By the way, growing up, growing up in, in, uh, the, you know, not growing up in New York, but we lived in New York for a couple of years and all those streets are still there and you can still see the buildings where like, you know, Lucky Luciano, you know, like did a hit on, you know, Jimmy the Shark and all those kind of things. Like that stuff is still out there.

• 34:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I love y'all. I gotta do y'all internship in robbery. It's like you, you come up, you learn the ropes of crime and then you take over. It's beautiful. It's like the royal family. So his father was allegedly a one-time liaison between the families and later managed a restaurant owned by Paul Castenio.

• 34:19Speaker 03

  Right.

• 34:20Laci Mosley?

  Uh, Castellano, uh, the former boss of the Gambino family.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 34:24Laci Mosley?

  So growing up, where everyone knew his family meant that Jimmy was used to getting what he wanted when he wanted it. Yeah, because if we don't give you what you want, it's murder.

• 34:36Speaker 03

  Which is, which is, which is Irv Gotti, but we're about to talk about John Gotti. I feel like this, this turn is coming up.

• 34:41Laci Mosley?

  Right. So growing up, where, you know, so he got what he wanted. At 14, he was first sentenced to juvenile hall for racketeering. Racketeering at 14?

• 34:51Speaker 03

  Wow, that's, that's initiative. That's initiative. Put that child's mind in something better, but like, he's clearly brilliant.

• 34:58Laci Mosley?

  Racketeering at 14 is impressive. I feel like if you're a judge, you gotta be like, you in ninth grade? We talking about racketeering?

• 35:05Speaker 03

  Use your superpowers for good, young man.

• 35:07Laci Mosley?

  So in an interview, Jimmy said this about his childhood. My father always bailed me out of trouble. I grew up with power and when things didn't go my way, I'd blow up. Wow. So we talking privilege. Okay. So despite his baby face, and let's get that picture up of his baby face, in his late teens, Jimmy tricked and... That's a baby, what?

• 35:25Speaker 03

  That's, that's not a baby. That's... You put that one back in the womb for a little bit.

• 35:31Laci Mosley?

  Yo, when people be having ugly babies and, and they my friends, I always just comment like, what a blessing.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  No, you just say, who's he look like?

• 35:40Laci Mosley?

  Congratulations on your healthy baby. Like, I'm not gonna say it's cute. I just be like, you know, the, the Lord smiled upon y'all. Yeah, his munchaus are not giving baby. Like, he's got chubby cheeks, but he look like a man to me.

• 35:53Speaker 03

  That's not a child.

• 35:54Laci Mosley?

  No, it's a man. It looks seedy. He look like crime. If I saw him, I would profile him. Like, he needs to be profiled everywhere he goes. So in his late teens Jimmy tricked airlines into upgrading him to first class by claiming to be an executive at Disney, the president of Paramount Pictures, or the head of a music division at Warner Brothers.

• 36:15Speaker 03

  Hmm, that doesn't work so well when your name is Diallo Riddle, like nobody, nobody believes you.

• 36:20Laci Mosley?

  They Google it immediately.

• 36:22Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 36:23Laci Mosley?

  Hold on.

• 36:24Speaker 03

  Wait, the president of Paramount is a blanket? Nah.

• 36:26Laci Mosley?

  I mean, you look light-skinned, you might be able to use some light-skinned privilege and be like, you know.

• 36:32Speaker 03

  Maybe on Spirit.

• 36:33Laci Mosley?

  Maybe you could be the head of AMC.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  I think Spirit don't check.

• 36:36Laci Mosley?

  Okay, but you acting like Spirit give a fuck about anybody. Spirit's like, get on the plane, you raggedy bitch.

• 36:40Speaker 03

  Get on the plane, Mickey Mouse, they don't care who you are.

• 36:43Laci Mosley?

  Spirit be like, okay, do you want a seatbelt? That's extra.

• 36:46Speaker 03

  I'm serious, man. I was thinking this the other day, like, how garbage do you think, like, think about the customer service department of Spirit, like, there's probably like five people there, they're just like, I don't know, that's our brand. Our brand is that we don't pick up the phone.

• 36:59Laci Mosley?

  Right. No, they're like, I honestly think that they give all their customer service people like Xanax to just like be so chill. It's like every time anybody has to talk to customer service at Spirit, it's never a good thing, so they're just like fully, they're like 911 operators, they're like, hello, what's your emergency?

• 37:16Speaker 03

  Let me tell you who I, let me tell you who I actually feel bad for, the people at the Spirit counter, because here's the thing, like you just said, is, they didn't make the policy, they didn't, they're not the ones who are benefiting from $25 a seatbelt, you know what I'm saying?

• 37:30Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 37:31Speaker 03

  They're just frontline people who have to just get punched in the face all day. I actually feel like, get another job. Get another job, because this, John and Jeffrey Spirit are the ones who are making all the money on this airline.

• 37:43Laci Mosley?

  Right, and I feel like the people at Spirit, they're not like, okay, would you like to fill out this survey after to tell me? I ain't never heard them say that, they're like, we don't want no survey, we know you dissatisfied bitch, that's what we do.

• 37:53Speaker 03

  They're like, just hang up, just hang up, walk away.

• 37:55Laci Mosley?

  We know you're dissatisfied, everybody is, in Spirit.

• 37:58Speaker 03

  We're not that much, with this money, you could have been on Southwest, just go somewhere else.

• 38:02Laci Mosley?

  Right, and that's what I will say too, is like, guys, I know them Spirit flights be looking really enticing, and if Spirit ever sponsors this show, I'm gonna be like, y'all, fly with Spirit, the caution-taped airline. I'm like, oh, I love to sit in my comfortable seat on Spirit, they get you, the plane lands, the plane always lands.

• 38:23Speaker 03

  Spirit, we'll get you there. They set the lowest possible bar.

• 38:26Laci Mosley?

  The plane gonna land.

• 38:28Speaker 03

  We're gonna land.

• 38:32Speaker 03

  Spirit, go see your grandparents.

• 38:34Laci Mosley?

  Right, but cuz it's not actually cheaper. The whole thing about Spirit is it's almost like Klarna or Layaway. Where like you pay a smaller fee for the flight, but then they nickel and dime you. Unless you show up to the plane with all your clothes for the, the trip on your body like on you. You're gonna pay.

• 38:52Speaker 03

  Or you just go wear a shirt, huh? You just go wear a shirt, shirt fee. Like this is ridiculous. Like just go in and spend the extra twenty dollars and get out of, uh, anywhere.

• 39:01Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you got to cuz look, you get on Spirit and, and as soon as they start taxiing, the floorboards open. You gotta, you gotta run your feet like Flintstones to get them, to get them off the runway.

• 39:11Speaker 03

  Shoes on somebody else's lap. It's like, Spirit, we'll break it.

• 39:17Laci Mosley?

  Spirit be like, oh, you want some water? That'll be five dollars. Why you like, we can't?

• 39:21Speaker 03

  Hey, look, we got the Queen of England here. She wants some water. She wants some water. There's water in the bathroom.

• 39:27Laci Mosley?

  They shame you first when you ask for water. Like, what do you think this is? We at thirty-five thousand feet, you want water?

• 39:33Speaker 03

  Look at the diva asking for a soda.

• 39:36Laci Mosley?

  Right, ooh, wow. What next? You gonna wanna be able to control the air and the little air thingy too?

• 39:43Speaker 03

  Oh, you wanna control with that little screen on your TV showing? Oh, okay, alright.

• 39:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you wanna open your window? That'll be six dollars.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  Oh, you wanna get off, oh, you wanna get off the plane now just cuz we landed? Okay, that's another twenty dollars, like.

• 39:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's crazy you wanna get off the plane, but.

• 39:59Speaker 03

  You see that man? He ran out of money. He been, he been to like thirty cities today.

• 40:04Laci Mosley?

  He can't get off until the pilot's done for the day.

• 40:09Laci Mosley?

  Oh, God. But yeah, so he was tricking people. True, we went out to, I love it. He was tricking people on planes. He was also known to walk into ritzy hotels such as the Waldorf Astoria crew in tow and convince the hotel to give them sixteen thousand dollars in rooms, room service, limousine service, and sometimes like for a week with no credit card. This is whiteness because I can't wait.

• 40:31Speaker 03

  We can't walk into a New York hotel and not have somebody accuse us of stealing their phone first off. So we, we know how this goes. Like this is the opposite of our experience.

• 40:40Laci Mosley?

  We can't, literally.

• 40:41Speaker 03

  They'll be like, I need an ID and a credit card. I'm like, okay, how much are you putting on the credit card? Like fifteen hundred dollars. I'm like, oh, that's, that's, okay, that's, I guess that's what I gotta do now, like.

• 40:50Laci Mosley?

  Right. I was like, isn't the credit card whole fee like three hundred? Yeah, yeah, normally, but two bucks, so we gonna do two thousand.

• 40:56Speaker 03

  We're just trying to play it safe, you know?

• 40:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, cuz you know how, you know how y'all be. We don't gotta explain.

• 41:00Speaker 03

  Y'all want the M and M's and the champagne and the, and the mini cart. So, you know, we're just playing it safe.

• 41:06Laci Mosley?

  Kinda make sure you can afford it. You get it, right? It's policy.

• 41:08Speaker 03

  Mr. Sabatino, right this way, right this way. What about him? He can put a credit card down. Well, you know, he, we know him. We know him. He's the president of Paramount.

• 41:15Laci Mosley?

  Vibes. He just pay for everything in vibes everywhere he go. Wow. Must be nice. So, the beginnings of his music career. Oh, y'all are your DJs, so let's see.

• 41:25Speaker 03

  Uh-oh.

• 41:25Laci Mosley?

  In nineteen ninety-four, Jimmy Sabatino was seventeen and had aspirations of breaking into the music industry. He had even started his own record label, Soundstorm, which failed immediately. Soundstorm kinda sounded like it could pop. I'm sad for him.

• 41:38Speaker 03

  A scammer who wants to be famous, that's one type of red flag. Anybody say, oh, I'm gonna start my own record label, kind of a red flag, like. I, I've just not known that many people who started their own, Jazzy Jeff did it. That was cool. Hidden Beef was a great record label, but you know.

• 41:52Laci Mosley?

  And, and, uh, Master P did it.

• 41:54Speaker 03

  Master P, oh, by the way, Master P, I feel like I got the hookup, gave birth to a whole generation of scammers. Can we just be honest, like, I got the hookup?

• 42:03Laci Mosley?

  Master P was selling CDs out of his trunk of his car, so he know about the scam life, and he, I didn't know that Master P-

• 42:10Speaker 03

  That's not a scam, though. That's a good for, for money.

• 42:12Laci Mosley?

  Right. He was a hustler. But Mas, I didn't know Master P was a savant until I heard a seat at the table and he was doing them interludes, and I said, damn, okay, Master P, you smart as hell.

• 42:21Speaker 03

  Okay, so first off, I always wondered, was there like a writer's room for like those interludes? Cuz I feel like they were sitting around like, alright, so somebody's gotta write the Master P's getting head sketch. Who wants to write that? You wanna write it? Tommy, you wanna write it? Okay, just make sure, make sure she sounds very satisfied. I can't somebody good. Don't get your cousin again, cuz we know that she's trying to do all this acting nowadays. Like, I just feel like there was a whole brain trust that went into those Master P interludes, cuz they were kinda classic and also kinda half-baked, like, it was just- Also, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say something controversial about Master P that may never make the podcast, but I feel like that dude went from trying to sound like a Bay Area E40 type rapper to,

• 43:01Speaker 03

  like then all of a sudden he sounded like he wanted to be like Tupac, uh, no, he wanted to be Scarface. And then when Tupac died, he started doing like, "In the sea, in the knees," you know?

• 43:13Laci Mosley?

  See, but that's the original Drake. That's the original Drake, cuz we know, one Drake album, he's gonna be Caribbean, another Drake album, he's gonna be Afro-Latino. He's gonna be like, "Gimme passa, mami," you know, another, you know, and, uh, "Why haven't you called me?" You know, he's, he's gonna switch it up. He's gonna be British soon. Like, you know, he's got a child who lives overseas. Like, he, you know, Drake is all racist.

• 43:38Speaker 03

  And somebody who has worked with Drake on more than one occasion, I'm just gonna say that, uh, shout out to Drake.

• 43:44Laci Mosley?

  Listen.

• 43:45Speaker 03

  Shout out to Future.

• 43:47Laci Mosley?

  He's someone who knows how to switch it up with the times. I love me some Drake, so I'm like, you know, be it. What, what are we this week, Drake? Okay, we from Cameroon? All right, we Afrobeat Drake? Great, I'll be there.

• 43:59Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, I, I mean, by the way, I, yeah, I can't say nothing. I'm gonna get a call from Future to Prince like, um, "Hey, Niella, we're listening to Scam Goddess."

• 44:09Laci Mosley?

  I don't think Future to Prince listens to Scam Goddess. I think you're safe.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  I think they listen to everything. I think they got, I think they got, Anthony Gazala's gonna call me up.

• 44:18Laci Mosley?

  Ears just working. Ears always listening. So, in lieu of, so it failed, right, his record label? So, in lieu of not yet finding success, Jimmy lied about everything, which is how he found himself in the dressing room of Julio Iglesias following a Miami performance. So, he had scammed his way back to Julio Dress Room. Before Iglesias, before his show, Jimmy had called claiming to be an executive from Sony Music and nephew of Sony Music Chairman Tommy.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  Tommy, absolutely. I, I knew this was coming back to old Tommy Mottola. That, cuz I feel like there was a time in the 90s, if you were Italian and worked and, and lived in New York, you could probably say, "Oh, yeah, we're with Tommy." Like, Tommy just had that much, like, he ran everything. He had Mariah. He had so much going on back then. You know what I'm saying? Like, it just the fact that, like, Ghostface sampled that, uh, Dr. Bussler, his Savannah Band track. You know, Tommy Mottola lives on the road, like, and all the hip-hop kids were, like, rapping that shit. Like, it was like, that was a special time. Tommy, Tommy was the man.

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  And I was on, I, I went to a Wu-Tang Clan concert last night, so.

• 45:20Speaker 03

  Oh, you were at that thing?

• 45:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 45:21Speaker 03

  I know some other people who were there. They were talking about, you know, some crazy stuff that Ray Kwan and Ghostface was talking about. Ray Kwan was there, right?

• 45:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah, he was. And Ghostface was there, yeah.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  Where was his concert? I didn't get the invite. Where was he?

• 45:32Laci Mosley?

  It was at the Novo.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  Aw, man, I would've gone. See?

• 45:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 45:37Speaker 03

  Nobody told me anything. Okay, I'm sorry.

• 45:38Laci Mosley?

  No, nobody told me. Somebody tell me nothing! Um, which is a very funny Ricky Smiley bit that he used to do.

• 45:46Speaker 03

  Shout out to Ricky Smiley. Absolutely.

• 45:48Laci Mosley?

  I was like an old person as a child, just listening, like, get up.

• 45:51Speaker 03

  I was gonna say, that's my aunts and uncles. They're very smiley people.

• 45:53Laci Mosley?

  I'd turn on Ricky Smiley, or I'd turn on Steve Harvey and listen to The Strawberry Letter as a child. Like, what was I doing? I was like, eight. And I was like, yeah, put on The Strawberry Letter. I gotta hear what Steve and him talk about today. Like, an old lady, an old lady child. That's my one.

• 46:07Speaker 03

  You are an old soul. I love it. I love it. This is the stuff that aunts and uncles live for. It's Steve Harvey, Ricky Smiley, Tom Joyner, the boat cruise, all that stuff. That's, that's.

• 46:18Laci Mosley?

  Have you ever heard of a, a eight-year-old talking about, "We living in our last days, child"? Because that was me.

• 46:26Speaker 03

  You did not do that. That was you?

• 46:27Laci Mosley?

  Yes. My grandma fully had me in a doomsday cult of her own making. I was like, "We living in our last days, child. You know, you gotta get your fans on. I'm eight."

• 46:36Speaker 03

  I got here too late. Lacey got here too late, y'all. She ain't gonna live long.

• 46:40Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, who am I and why? So Jimmy's connections were like gold to Iglesias, Julio Iglesias. And so he was duped into spending an inordinate amount of time with this teen until Jimmy's true identity was discovered. Several months earlier, Jimmy had also conned the San Francisco Niko Hotel for rooms by posing as a Coca-Cola executive. But he was soon discovered and arrested. After his father posted the $5,000 bail, okay, if your daddy got five Gs for bail, why can't you just pay for the hotel? Just call your daddy and be like...

• 47:12Speaker 03

  It's the principle of the thing. It's how they caught that one. It's the principality. They caught that one cat from, um, one of those reality shows, like Shoplifting 18 Milky Ways or something like that. Like, people just want to get away with something sometimes.

• 47:23Laci Mosley?

  Right. I'm like, you over here getting your Winona Ryder on when you got going. Like, what's happening?

• 47:28Speaker 03

  I, I had did it one time with a pretty famous actor, and everybody was just like eating and ordering big bottles and stuff. And, and he skipped out. And I was like, yeah, that's how they do it. You know, like, don't assume that the richest person, don't assume the richest person at the table is going to buy, you know?

• 47:42Laci Mosley?

  I need to stop. I be paying for checks, and I'm like, what am I doing? I'm robbing. What do, you know what I mean? So a week later, he jumped to the Renaissance Hotel, the same detective arrested him every time. So now you got a detective hot on his tail as the, as the hotel hoodwinker. So, president of the Miami Dolphins, what? Okay, when Jimmy was 18, he called the Miami Dolphins football team claiming to be the vice president of Blockbuster and asking if they had any extra tickets to the upcoming Super Bowl.

• 48:08Speaker 03

  That's the most 90s thing I've ever heard. Go ahead.

• 48:14Laci Mosley?

  Yo, hey, it's me, the president of Blockbuster. I do my own phone calls. Also, you do your own phone calls, nigga, you the president of Blockbuster, you don't got an assistant? Why don't you call and be the assistant of the president of Blockbuster? Why you supposed to be like, hey, it's me?

• 48:26Speaker 03

  He's also calling the Dolphins, so the whole thing is just like, not a thing that would ever happen today.

• 48:32Laci Mosley?

  Well, Jimmy was so convincing, the Dolphins president sent him a letter explaining when and where the tickets would be sent out. On the day they were sent, Jimmy called the local FedEx claiming that he was the president of the Miami Dolphins and needed to retrieve the two crates of envelopes that had just been shipped. His associates retrieved the crates and he sold the unusable tickets to unknowing patrons, pocketing $235,000. So because he was told when the tickets were being shipped, he called FedEx and said, hey, uh, I need all the tickets that were shipped, I'm the president of the Miami Dolphins. Hey, it's me, the president of the Miami Dolphins, doing my own phone calls again. Um, I was the president of Blockbuster.

• 49:09Speaker 03

  I like to pick up the phone, I like to talk to the people.

• 49:14Laci Mosley?

  I do my own errands, you know what I mean? I got plenty of time. I'm like, uh, Steve Jobs, not Steve Jobs, he's gone, rest is so. Who did that, Jeff Bezos, who was like, I work like three minutes a day? And everybody was like, yeah, yeah, that's great.

• 49:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, until we found out how much you made. No, think about this, this man not only, he wasn't satisfied just going to the Super Bowl for free. He had to get an additional $235,000 out of it.

• 49:39Laci Mosley?

  He also wanted to get the bag, he wanted to get paid to go to the Super Bowl.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  He's like, it's not enough for me to not put out money, I have to make money while not putting out money.

• 49:47Laci Mosley?

  He got paid.

• 49:48Speaker 03

  These are the decisions that most of us would not feel comfortable making, but he felt comfortable making them, cuz, you know, the mob.

• 49:56Laci Mosley?

  Right, and he was soon arrested and sentenced to two years in prison.

• 49:59Speaker 03

  He gets arrested a lot, though, he gets arrested quite a bit. He's not, is he even 20 yet? He's not even 20 yet in this story, go ahead.

• 50:08Laci Mosley?

  He's like, hey, y'all, y'all got nickel-free cuffs, cuz them other cuffs be, they be upsetting my ex-wife. He's getting arrested so often.

• 50:15Speaker 03

  He then called and said he was the president of the police department. And somehow they let him go.

• 50:20Laci Mosley?

  Oh, y'all got a president? What'd y'all do? Chief? Okay, I'm the chief of police.

• 50:24Speaker 03

  I'm the chief of police. My name is Chief Gordon and I got the bat signal.

• 50:29Laci Mosley?

  So after his release, Jimmy went back to New York where he walked out on a $50,000 tab for his welcome home party. He fled to London this time posing as a chairman of Sony Pictures.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  Posing as the Beatles. Awful.

• 50:42Laci Mosley?

  He managed to book a luxury hotel suite and attempted to purchase a $100,000 Rolex watch on a Sony credit card before moving to Japan and leaving the bill behind. Jimmy's credit cards were declined at the hotel in Tokyo, so he flew back to London and attempted to book 12 rooms to conduct interviews for Billboard Magazine in quotes. And at the same four season he had just skipped the bill on. And the thing is, is like, I love the audacity of this because if you're booking 12 rooms, people aren't gonna assume that you're a criminal because they're like, that's a lot of rooms. Like, you gotta have money. You think like money-

• 51:14Speaker 03

  A criminal is only gonna try and scam one room. But see, this is why the big lie always works. Like, no, you scam a dozen rooms and then nobody asks any questions. I gotta say though, this sounds like a shit ton of work. Like, all this like flying back and forth and rejecting credit cards. Like, I would have been gone straight by this point in the story.

• 51:32Laci Mosley?

  Well, here's the thing that people don't really get about scammers is like, they think that crime is easy, that crime is not a job. Crime is a profession. Like, you go to work, you wake up every day to do crime. You're like, what do we have on the crime to-do list today? It's not just easy. Like, it's a job like anything else. So he's working hard. He's very successful at being a serial entrepreneur, which is what we call scammers.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  I just said at some point, he could have used his mob contacts, it seems like, to get like, a job, still, still a scam of sorts, but these seem like really time-intensive scams, I guess is what I'm saying. Like, this seems like a lot of time.

• 52:06Laci Mosley?

  But some people get high off of it. It's like, you get away with something, you're like, ooh, the thrill of my leg. Yes.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  Like I said, I think it's just the idea that he didn't pay for that $50,000 welcome home. You know, somebody was like, I didn't even want to welcome him home. Like, this was your idea. Like, I'm sorry.

• 52:23Laci Mosley?

  Man, we didn't welcome this nigga home and he left, like, left us with the bill? Hell, kinda welcome this.

• 52:28Speaker 03

  He fresh out and then he's fresh out.

• 52:30Laci Mosley?

  Right, T Glizzy. Fresh out.

• 52:34Laci Mosley?

  So first day out and he had scammed everybody out of fifty thousand dollars.

• 52:38Speaker 03

  He ain't changed at all. This is record recid- that word.

• 52:42Laci Mosley?

  Recidivism, yes.

• 52:44Speaker 03

  It's a hard word to say.

• 52:46Laci Mosley?

  It is. It's a very fancy word for like you go back to jail again.

• 52:49Speaker 03

  You ain't changed.

• 52:51Laci Mosley?

  Right, or they got you again because we know how it is, especially for us. They just trying to get free labor. So when he arrived at the hotel in England, he was arrested and immediately imprisoned in an English jail without bail. Out of anger and retaliation, Jimmy spent his time calling the Miami FBI from prison and threatening to kill his prosecutors. Are they not recording calls in London? They're like, here you go, bloke, you're signed for your phone privileges. And he's on the phone like, I will kill y'all. You've got five more minutes.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  The president of the bus is quite violent, ain't he?

• 53:26Laci Mosley?

  Right. He's always just calling people, talking about he's gonna kill him. Yeah, it's almost time for his next phone call.

• 53:31Speaker 03

  Just give him twelve rooms, maybe he'll leave you alone.

• 53:34Laci Mosley?

  Right. So a week later, he managed to call the Secret Service and threaten to kill the then-president, Bill Clinton and his brother Roger Clinton. Now Roger like, why am I in it?

• 53:44Speaker 03

  I forgot about Roger Clinton, man. Roger Clinton, that's a different kind of scammer. Didn't Roger Clinton have some scams?

• 53:52Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. I'm gonna have to look into it, but I'm like, Roger don't gotta be into it. At the same time, Jimmy was asking for a presidential pardon for three outstanding warrants and a letter to President Clinton stating that he and his family would no longer be harassed by the US government, which like, bro, you would be harassed because you were doing crime. So though Jimmy later pled guilty, he said, well, y'all stop bothering me. I'm trying to rob a bank. Like, god damn.

• 54:15Laci Mosley?

  So though Jimmy later pled guilty to making the threats, he also filed a civil lawsuit seeking damages and lost income of a hundred dollars per day of the imprisonment and punitive damages of ten million. He was eventually deported and sentenced to four years in an American prison. So he's just doing the tour of jail. He was like, okay, I'm, next stop, I'm getting on Con Air, then I'mma hop back to this prison.

• 54:35Speaker 03

  He really was the owner of a record label at this point. Because you know, there's some of those, some of those record labels, them people stay in jail. So it's like.

• 54:41Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 54:42Speaker 03

  Living the dream.

• 54:43Laci Mosley?

  So in two thousand two, several years after his sentencing, Jimmy was still in prison, but that didn't stop him from conning. Using a jail telephone and impersonating real Hollywood executives, Jimmy managed to swindle the cellphone company Nextel out of one million dollars worth of phones to be sold on the black market. The con earned him eleven more years in prison, like.

• 55:01Laci Mosley?

  Jimmy don't care about prison. He's like, okay, room and board bitch, like a gym.

• 55:05Speaker 03

  And you know, he's got contacts in there. Like, you know, some of like, you know, you and me, we go in there like we're on our own. Like, he's not on our own. He's probably got all kinds of, probably got like a water there and there. Yeah, exactly. Hey, it's my uncle Lefty.

• 55:18Laci Mosley?

  Right, not Lefty. A real crime name. So also while I'm in prison, Jimmy sued Sean Combs, not Diddy.

• 55:26Speaker 03

  No way.

• 55:27Laci Mosley?

  For twenty million dollars in Miami federal court in two thousand and seven, he claimed that in December nineteen ninety-four, he'd flown Pete's protege, the notorious B I G. To Miami where he recorded seventeen minutes and fifty-four seconds of freestyle rapping. Jimmy said he sold the recordings to Combs for two hundred thousand dollars, but that Combs never paid. The suit was shortly dismissed, but bizarrely in two thousand and eight, Jimmy sent the L A Times a fake FBI document, falsely implicating both himself and Sean Combs in the murder of Tupac Shakur.

• 55:54Speaker 03

  What?

• 55:59Speaker 03

  And by the way, now I remember, I was like, this name smells familiar. I think this is where I come into the story because I feel like I was so obsessed with like the Tupac and Biggie, sort of like just coming at it from, not even as a DJ and as a person who loved both their music, but like just as true crime stories go. Like, because I was determined, like at one point in my life, I was like, I'm gonna figure this out.

• 56:19Laci Mosley?

  You go solve it?

• 56:20Speaker 03

  I was gonna solve it. I was gonna solve it from my armchair, for real. I was like, you know, there was that writer from the L A Times, I think his name was Chuck Phillips, who like had a bunch of stories out there and stuff. And so I was like, I'm gonna find out all these answers. Then Chuck Phillips mysteriously died. And I was like, okay, maybe I don't need these answers. Maybe I'll, yeah, exactly.

• 56:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, D L, you did the right thing. Stop looking for the answers.

• 56:41Speaker 03

  No, I can start writing comedy, because there's a lot of dangerous people in the world.

• 56:47Laci Mosley?

  This is what detergents from investigative journalism, like, oh, he woke up dead. Okay, I'm gonna just.

• 56:55Laci Mosley?

  I was gonna be Sarah Koenig and do cereal, but now I'm gonna put a pen in this. I'm gonna just. You know, I'm writing jokes.

• 57:02Speaker 03

  I'm gonna write these jokes.

• 57:04Laci Mosley?

  Ain't nobody murdering folks for jokes.

• 57:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't think, I don't think, I ain't seen no joke writers die recently.

• 57:11Laci Mosley?

  You gave it up real quick. So despite papers being full of misspellings, like this paper is full of misspellings, inaccuracies, and it was typed on a typewriter. And the FBI had switched to computers decades ago. LA Times printed the report anyway. They were like, we gotta sell these papers. So we go print this anyway. What do we got to fuck? So like, like many of Jimmy's other crimes, he seemed motivated not by greed, but out of the uncontrollable desire for attention and status. And this is an image of Jimmy with a Wu-Tang Clan.

• 57:42Speaker 03

  Okay, wait a second. I'm sorry. So the only reason they said he had a baby face in that first shot was because he looked like a human being. This looks actually more like a human baby. Like this looks, this is insane. I know it's a podcast, so we can't really see it. But I mean, like, kind of need to Google this. This is insanity.

• 57:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, we post the, we'll post these, we always post the photos on our podcast, Instagram, Scam Wadis Pod. But he's got a picture with, with who is this? Method Man? I can't. Why? How? How and why, Method Man?

• 58:13Speaker 03

  Okay, look, man, it's clearly a woman dancing just to the, just to the left of Matt.

• 58:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, some booty in the corner.

• 58:19Speaker 03

  Like, he's having a good time. He can't control every single person who just plopped down next to him and takes a picture.

• 58:24Laci Mosley?

  He got a towel on his head.

• 58:26Speaker 03

  Exactly. He's got towels. One of his eyes is actually asleep right now.

• 58:31Laci Mosley?

  He looked like he didn't want to take that picture. And Jimmy was like, come on, come on, let's take this picture. Get your Kodak out.

• 58:36Speaker 03

  In our profession, we've met a lot of rappers. Matt is actually one of the most together people I've ever met. So, no, this picture does not equal a cosign. I, I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take. He does have on a Dr. Seuss Wu-Tang shirt, which is kind of fire, though. So I think.

• 58:49Laci Mosley?

  God, so much Wu-Tang in this episode. He's eventually released from prison in 2013 after 13 years incarcerated. Almost immediately after his release, Jimmy started up again, this time posing as a big music executive from Jay-Z's company, Roc Nation. Within the span of five weeks, he managed to scam a young rap artist, Thomas Troup.

• 59:06Laci Mosley?

  Not true.

• 59:07Speaker 03

  Not true. He didn't feel, okay, go ahead.

• 59:09Laci Mosley?

  So he convinced Shropin to believing that he could give him a career while running up $600,000 in champagne, hotel tabs in Miami. He was arrested for the unpaid bill. As soon as he made it, damn, this nigga don't want to pay a bill. Woo, Jimmy.

• 59:21Speaker 03

  He hates those bills, man. He just, you know, he doesn't like paper. He's an environmentalist.

• 59:26Laci Mosley?

  He's allergic to a receipt.

• 59:27Speaker 03

  He's allergic to, that's what they don't tell you, man.

• 59:30Laci Mosley?

  He's like, this is gonna break me out. I can't, I can't test this receipt.

• 59:33Speaker 03

  Guys, it's the papyrus. It's the papyrus. That doesn't work with my skin.

• 59:38Laci Mosley?

  So the 37 year old was sent into prison again. He's like, okay, that's how I am. I go back to prison. That's the crib. While in prison, his next scheme involved buying illegal phones from guards. He used the phones to call luxury goods stores such as Tiffany and Co, Cartier, and convinced them that he was a Sony picture or Universal Studios executive in the need of a loan for jewelry and watches uh to be displayed in a splashy music video. Wow, this man is a genius.

• 1:00:01Speaker 03

  He goes to jail a lot.

• 1:00:02Laci Mosley?

  Working with another inmate. He go to jail all the time.

• 1:00:06Speaker 03

  He's a genius, but he's in jail a lot. I like those geniuses who don't go to jail a lot.

• 1:00:11Laci Mosley?

  Hey, where Jimmy? Oh, he in jail again. You know he be going to jail a lot.

• 1:00:14Speaker 03

  You know, he's in jail again. He's a genius.

• 1:00:19Laci Mosley?

  So this scheme actually got him like $10 million and 20 more years in prison. Jimmy.

• 1:00:26Speaker 03

  I think that you should have a drinking game you establish at the top of this episode. Every time this man goes to jail, they have to.

• 1:00:32Laci Mosley?

  You have to drink.

• 1:00:33Speaker 03

  Take a tiny, they had to take a tiny sip.

• 1:00:35Laci Mosley?

  A tiny sip, cuz you, yeah, I was like, you'll die of alcohol poisoning and I'll be sued. So we're getting to the end of this. During his sentence, Jimmy had one request, send him a sol- to solitary confinement. Out of a want to curb his addiction to scamming, his solution was to severely limit his contact with prisoners outside of, in the whole outside world cuz he knew he was gonna keep robbing. He's addicted. His last words before the sentencing were, I don't apologize to nobody. As far as the government's concerned, they allowed this case to happen. They should be embarrassed.

• 1:01:07Speaker 03

  That's how you flipping right there, man. You don't put you on trial, you put the system on trial.

• 1:01:13Laci Mosley?

  Put the system on trial, you make a political statement. He's like, the whole damn system. It's giving Anna Delvey, because Anna Delvey was like a fake heiress who scammed a bunch of people out of something that she wasn't actually gonna make like a like a, it was supposed to be like basically like a Soho House or something. So she scammed a bunch of people, scammed.

• 1:01:31Speaker 03

  What was it called?

• 1:01:33Laci Mosley?

  Her name's Anna Delvey.

• 1:01:34Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:01:34Laci Mosley?

  But, and Sean Rhymes actually is about to put out her show, like a show about her robbing everybody in New York.

• 1:01:40Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:01:40Laci Mosley?

  But at court, Anna Delvey was like, I am not a good person. And I was like, go off, queen. Go up. Like, don't get in here lying, just be like, I'm not a good person. Like, the fuck? And I'm bad. What's up?

• 1:01:54Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 1:01:55Laci Mosley?

  I love this.

• 1:01:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:57Laci Mosley?

  So guys, he's currently still serving twenty years sentence at the Supermax Penitentiary in Florence, Colorado.

• 1:02:03Speaker 03

  That's the Supermax, wow, that's, that's, I feel like Tupac was in the damn Supermax for a second.

• 1:02:09Laci Mosley?

  I feel like, I don't know if he needs, maybe he does need to be a Supermax, because he keep calling people and robbing them. They was like, you can't handle phone calls no more. Every time you get on the phone, you robbing people. Like, we can't do that.

• 1:02:20Speaker 03

  I like how they were like, you can't have contact with criminals outside of prison. He's like, so I'll just go to prison.

• 1:02:27Laci Mosley?

  Right, okay, bet.

• 1:02:28Speaker 03

  All right, cool, I'll just talk to them in there.

• 1:02:30Laci Mosley?

  Tell them to give me my old bed.

• 1:02:33Speaker 03

  You know he was, you know he was running scams on those phone, those daily phone calls too? For sure.

• 1:02:39Laci Mosley?

  He was like, tell them to give me my old bed, get the ramen from commissary and them shower shoes that I like. Thank you so much.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  The ramen, oh no.

• 1:02:48Laci Mosley?

  It's time for the end of the show, Scammer of the Week. This is where we highlight an honorary charlatan. Maybe we love him, maybe we hate him, we'll see. In early October twenty twenty one, a new cryptocurrency named for the popular Netflix show Squid Game, which black people call Squid Games, because we need to add an X to everything.

• 1:03:08Laci Mosley?

  Nordstrom's, there's no S, guys. We made that up.

• 1:03:13Speaker 03

  My mom used to always call it Nintendo. She couldn't put that first N on there. She'd be like, y'all playing Nintendo?

• 1:03:21Laci Mosley?

  And do y'all intend, y'all playing Nintendo?

• 1:03:24Speaker 03

  Y'all playing Nintendo?

• 1:03:27Speaker 03

  It is true though, I hadn't even thought about that. I've heard so many people, "Oh, y'all like Squid Games."

• 1:03:32Laci Mosley?

  With that S, look, black people love an S for some extra seasoning, okay? You gotta season your words too, you gotta give them some flavor. And I love that for us. So, this cryptocurrency went live and quickly went viral with gains of eighty-three thousand percent over two days. The now defunct informational website alluded to the crypto being a part of an actual Squid Games with real-life players. One, which was like, an initial red flag. Also, the website was riddled with grammar and spelling errors. The crypto must be purchased through a platform called Pancake Swap, which don't sound legit.

• 1:04:06Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:04:06Laci Mosley?

  And purchasers were not allowed to cash out. And I actually talked to a crypto guy that I know who's like, really like, into this and NFTs. And he was saying that you really have to be, like, I know a lot of new people wanna get into crypto. Y'all wanna get y'all feet wet, y'all wanna get y'all coins up. But you really have to be careful, like, what platforms you're trading or buying crypto on, and making sure that those platforms are actually legit. Or at least, like, because crypto is not regulated, you need to make sure that the platform that you're on is reviewing stuff.

• 1:04:37Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 1:04:38Laci Mosley?

  Checking the algorithms, making sure that, you know, this is something that's popular. So, in general, he said, "It's important to look at the merits of each investment. However, finding sufficient liquidity is critical as well. Being able to gain and reduce exposure to an investment in a timely fashion is how one can effectively manage their overall portfolio and not risk exposure." Additionally, choosing to invest in projects that are listed on centralized exchanges, such as FTX or Coinbase, is a smart place, given those entities conduct substantial analysis of a project before listing various cryptocurrencies. So, like I was saying, like, FTX, Coinbase, they're researching for the girls. They're making sure the girls aren't gonna get robbed. Don't be buying nothing from Pancake Swap.

• 1:05:19Laci Mosley?

  That don't even sound legit.

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  No, but you know what I will say, it's harder and harder to tell what's legit based on the name, just because, like, I bought into Doja Coin, and, you know, to this day, I don't even know if it's called Doja Doggy.

• 1:05:30Laci Mosley?

  Doja Coin? Like, like Doja Cat? Doja Cat got her own coin?

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  I think it's called Doggy Coin.

• 1:05:36Laci Mosley?

  I know what it's like.

• 1:05:39Speaker 03

  Can I just say like, I don't know how she survived the whole, anyway.

• 1:05:45Laci Mosley?

  Sharpy?

• 1:05:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, man, well, not even that, like, like, hanging out in all, like, chat rooms and stuff, like.

• 1:05:51Laci Mosley?

  Don't just always be weird. Yeah, she's always been like weird. I used to, like, I followed her like in the early days and she would literally get on Instagram Live, eat a burger and a milkshake and make music in her room, wearing all pink in a pink room. She's just kind of weird and we're all like, this is fine.

• 1:06:06Speaker 03

  Okay, alright, cool, I'll take that for it, alright.

• 1:06:09Laci Mosley?

  Like, this is fine, you little lovable weirdo. We love you. TikTok loves you. So, the value of squid rose from $4.26 to a peak of $2,861 over two days due to the international news coverage before abruptly plummeting to zero because they cashed the fuck out. They said, "We cashing out." They, the invisible group of people pulling the strings cashed out the crypto, draining the pool entirely, before disappearing with roughly $3.8 million in like, two days, bruh.

• 1:06:38Speaker 03

  I mean, honestly, that's...

• 1:06:39Laci Mosley?

  I wish I had thought of it.

• 1:06:40Speaker 03

  I mean, yeah, that's the thing, is like, anybody who is buying Squid Game cryptocurrency, like, I feel bad for them, but I'm also like, it's all such speculation, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:06:49Laci Mosley?

  Damn, I should have made a Bridgerton coin.

• 1:06:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, what other, I think that Cocomelon coin is gonna be what all the...

• 1:06:56Laci Mosley?

  Popping, popping.

• 1:06:58Speaker 03

  Them kids can't get enough. Those kids will be on your phone. I saw my kid open up Robinhood on my phone the other day. I was like, no, that's a one app that you can never go near.

• 1:07:07Laci Mosley?

  Right, don't get in there and start clicking all stuff. We don't need that. Daddy don't need that. And I will say, those, uh, to close this out, those, um, people who created the Squid Game thing were anonymous. But, the reason that people don't get that weirded out by anonymous people creating coins is because the inventor of Bitcoin is still anonymous to this day.

• 1:07:30Speaker 03

  Right, right.

• 1:07:31Laci Mosley?

  So, it's like, that's kind of become a norm in the industry and people made money off of Bitcoin. So, guys, don't be buying shit off of PancakeCookie.com, like, you know?

• 1:07:42Speaker 03

  The director of Southside, he's directed all but two episodes, because Bashir and I directed an episode this season and, uh, Bashir's brother Ismail is a great director, directed one. But, the guy who directed all of the other 18 episodes of existing Southside episodes, uh, he got into Bitcoin very, like, when we were still at Fallon, like, around like 2012, I want to say. And he bought... I think a full Bitcoin for not much money back then. And so, you know, and he stuck with it when it went down and stuff. So he always, I always talk to him when I talk about crypto. He's the reason why episode 10 of South Side is about Litcoin, which was the uh,

• 1:08:17Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I love Litcoin.

• 1:08:19Speaker 03

  The crypto that we made up for the show.

• 1:08:20Laci Mosley?

  I love Litcoin.

• 1:08:22Speaker 03

  He'll tell you to this day, he's like, I don't, I don't believe in any of them except for Bitcoin. He's like, I think they just have a fundamentally, fundamentally different uh model from even Ethereum or some of the other sort of like reputable ones. So.

• 1:08:34Laci Mosley?

  Dogecoin, yeah.

• 1:08:35Speaker 03

  Dogecoin. I, listen, I didn't know what I was doing. Just everybody was like, oh, buy this, buy this. And then the old boy went on SNL and made a joke and everybody lost their money. So I was just like, okay.

• 1:08:45Laci Mosley?

  Yikes.

• 1:08:46Speaker 03

  Serves me right. I bought something that I did not understand at the time. I should have used the Warren Buffett rule.

• 1:08:52Laci Mosley?

  But guys, uh, to that point, uh, we've reached the end of the show and Diallo, we always ask on the show, where would you like to be found? Anything you want to plug? Any places on the internet you want people to find you? All those things.

• 1:09:05Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, I'm on Instagram at Diallo, D I A L L O. But I'd also say just watch South Side. It's on HBO Max. You can watch the whole first season.

• 1:09:14Laci Mosley?

  So good.

• 1:09:14Speaker 03

  You can watch the whole second season. We're gonna roll it out in bits, but you get to watch the whole season, uh, second season. And I just think that you will enjoy it.

• 1:09:22Laci Mosley?

  It's fantastic. You absolutely will enjoy it. And I'm not lying. Like, I love that show. I cannot wait for November 11th is when the second season drops, correct?

• 1:09:31Speaker 03

  Absolutely. It's drops on November 11th with the first three episodes, then November 18th, the next three, and then on uh, the 25th, we'll release the other four. And then there might be a little bit of a wait, but we think we've done the same thing with season two that we did with season one. We've thrown everything into this. You'll get a nice full meal, uh, even if you're watching it for the second or third time through. And I think you will because like you said, there are jokes that, you know, don't come through the first time that you had to kind of watch.

• 1:09:59Laci Mosley?

  Rapid fire. You have to listen. My, my favorite joke still is, um.

• 1:10:03Speaker 03

  Which one?

• 1:10:04Laci Mosley?

  I guess this is, maybe this is, uh, but she's your sister, maybe? No, or who's sister, maybe?

• 1:10:08Speaker 03

  Zuri?

• 1:10:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Uh, when they tried to bribe her for something, I won't spoil anything. And she was like, well, I want to get a feature on your track. And she was like, and not like that girl from Who Said Maybach Music. She didn't get paid.

• 1:10:20Speaker 03

  She didn't get paid.

• 1:10:22Laci Mosley?

  It's a deep cut joke. It's like Maybach music. I was like dying.

• 1:10:26Speaker 03

  Listen, we do, we do so many jokes like that. I love that you know that joke because that is the kind of joke that we would. There are jokes out there for the first five years, but there's so many jokes in there that we feel like for people who are like really paying attention, that makes a lot to me. I thank you so much for bringing that one up.

• 1:10:42Laci Mosley?

  You're fantastic. Oh, thank you. And thank you for being on the show. As always, guys, if you want to find us, Scam Goddess Pod. If you want to see the photos, Scam Goddess Pod on all platforms. Diva Lacy, D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacy. If you want to follow me and my mess on all platforms, except for TikTok where I'm Lacey Mosley. Don't harass that little white girl who got my handle. She's a child and she's adorable. And guys, the merch, it's out there, podswhile.com/scamgoddess. I'm about to switch it up. So if you want a daddy government t-shirt, if you want any of that stuff, you better get it right now because I'm gonna switch it up. You know, I gotta keep the tricks guessing. Icarly, streaming now on Paramount Plus. Black Lacey Sketch Show, streaming now on HBO Max. Those are all my things for now. Guys, we're up for an iHeartRadio Awards. So, you know, pay attention. I don't know if y'all can vote. I don't know what that means, but

• 1:11:27Laci Mosley?

  like, we'll see. All right, guys. Congregation, stay scheming. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargill, engineered by Marina Fais, and researched by Kalen Brandt. Stay scheming.

• 1:11:51Speaker 05

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