#2555 - Ron White

Ron White is a comedian, actor, and author. He is currently on tour. https://linktr.ee/ronwhite www.youtube.com/@ronwhitecomedywww.tatersalad.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Line of Fire premieres Monday, September 21st 10/9c after The Voice on NBC, and next day on Peacock. This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:05Speaker 01

  Training by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

• 0:12Speaker 02

  I like him though, I mean, he's a kid, I talked to him a little on the green room and then I thought he had a pretty good set.

• 0:18Joe Rogan?

  He's funny, Matt's funny, Matt Raff is very funny. What the fuck's going on?

• 0:23Speaker 02

  I don't get fucking crowd work.

• 0:25Joe Rogan?

  It's not my thing, but I get it, you know, it's a tough skill, some people are really good at it.

• 0:31Speaker 02

  I guess they are, but I won't let my opening act do it.

• 0:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it becomes a problem.

• 0:35Speaker 02

  Because then they feel like they can talk to me, which they cannot.

• 0:38Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 0:39Speaker 02

  Because I just, I always looked at it as a time killer, back when I had 41 minutes, but I was supposed to do 45 minutes, and I'm like, I gotta talk to these fucking hay seeds for four minutes and get this thing wrapped up, but, uh, once I had the jokes, you know, I just do the fucking jokes.

• 0:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, I don't knock it, it's cool, it's a different thing, it's a different thing, it's relies on a very strong improvisational muscle, because like, you're under the gun to come up with something funny to say. But it is always funnier, because it's under the gun, than it would be in a normal circumstance, like, the things that you're saying.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  But you can never use it again, I mean, you can use the skill all the time, I mean, I guess some people are that good at it.

• 1:21Joe Rogan?

  Ingram's really good at it, Rick Ingram, he's got a lot of like, built-in stuff, like material he could pull out too, because he does it so often.

• 1:28Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, so he can blend the two together.

• 1:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, he seamlessly integrates the two of them together, he's really good at it. Jay, Big Jay, Big Jay Okerson, he's really good at it, he's really good at it, because he knows how to hold a moment. He knows how to hold, like, when someone says something ridiculous, he knows how to pause, he knows how to like, he's got great storytelling.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's a nice guy, too.

• 1:50Joe Rogan?

  He's a great guy, but he also is a great comic, like, he just does funny stand-up comedy on top of that, so it's like, yeah, the crowd work is nice, but it's not the only thing he does. Whereas some people, that's their whole thing.

• 2:02Speaker 02

  Well, I hear these young comics at the club, I gotta work on my crowd work, I gotta work on my crowd work, and I'm like, well, you don't, but...

• 2:07Joe Rogan?

  Is your Pat O'Neal's joke about that? I don't want to give it up on the air, but it's really hilarious. He's funny, man, that guy's a fuck, that guy's a joke machine. Pat O'Neal?

• 2:17Speaker 02

  I think Pat is, uh, you know, I had him on my show too, right after I saw him on Kill Tony.

• 2:22Joe Rogan?

  So funny.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  And, uh, you know, that's, it's amazing, Kill Tony, what was the kid's name that was, that opened last night? Oh, you weren't there Monday night, I was there Monday night, the young kid, he's, uh, from Alabama, do you know who I'm talking about?

• 2:37Joe Rogan?

  I do know, he just got the golden ticket on Kill Tony.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, when I was hosting, and you were there that night.

• 2:42Joe Rogan?

  Let me text Tony. Find out, it might not have been aired yet, as it airs?

• 2:48Speaker 04

  No, I just don't know his name.

• 2:49Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, the kid's hilarious, he works at the club, too, cool kid, too, and, you know, was living in Alabama, decided to take a chance.

• 2:55Speaker 04

  Brent Reed?

• 2:56Joe Rogan?

  Brent Reed.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, Brent Reed, he's opening for me tonight.

• 2:58Joe Rogan?

  Funny motherfucker, dude, and he was saying, that's right, because he was saying, like you said, after you saw him on Kill Tony, "Hey, I'd like to have you open for me," and he was like, "Holy fucking shit, man," he had called his dad, he's like, "I'm fucking opening for Ron White." His dad's giving him shit about his comedy career.

• 3:17Speaker 02

  Stand-up, uh, I have, you know, stand-up's not as funny as it used to be, to me, it's very, very rare that I'll sit and watch somebody do stand-up and laugh out loud, if I'm up on the balcony, uh, but that kid cracked me up, and, uh...

• 3:32Joe Rogan?

  He's very good, great writing.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  It's, what's amazing is that, when he came back on Kill Tony, he'd only been on one time, one time.

• 3:41Joe Rogan?

  Actually not.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  And they already knew who he was, I mean, they gave him a round of applause, like it was one of the biggest comics in the country, and he'd been on once.

• 3:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  And, uh, the second time was...

• 3:51Joe Rogan?

  He'd actually, I thought that too, but he had actually been on before and bombed, and he talked about that, about how he came back, and this set, he was just, he'd been working at the club, he'd been living in Austin, it's way more comfortable, built his act up, and he was like, super honest about it, we're all chilling in the back, very cool guy, we were just talking about it, he's like, "Yeah, I just had to get my shit together, man, I had to figure out what the fuck I'm doing," and the first time I did, I kind of froze, but this time I was like, and this time, he had to follow that other dude, who was that other dude who also got a golden ticket?

• 4:25Speaker 02

  Right, right, two in a row, and that guy was funny, have we seen him since? I haven't seen him back up at the club.

• 4:29Joe Rogan?

  I haven't seen him since, but that guy's fucking talented, too, he was very funny. So they got two golden tickets in a row, who was the other guy that got a golden ticket that, right? He had a fun name, like a made-up name.

• 4:40Speaker 04

  Give me a second, sorry.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was like, Sir...

• 4:45Joe Rogan?

  I remember.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  Something, I...

• 4:47Joe Rogan?

  I don't remember, I don't remember, but it was hilarious, it was ridiculous, whatever his name was, was ridiculous.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  So, I just got back from, uh, Lake Como and, uh, Verona and Zermatt, Switzerland, I don't know.

• 5:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh damn, dude.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  Fucking twenty, uh, twenty-one days.

• 5:04Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  Of just pure relaxation, and I gotta tell you, I dug every goddamn minute of it, it was a hundred and seven degrees here in Texas, it was, oh, the high today is sixty-two, yeah, that guy right there.

• 5:16Joe Rogan?

  What is his name?

• 5:17Speaker 04

  Uh, shit. I thought it was right here.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  It's French, I think.

• 5:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I know it. Francois something, right? I think it's a fake name.

• 5:29Speaker 04

  See if he says it here, sorry.

• 5:31Joe Rogan?

  Does he say it?

• 5:32Speaker 04

  Call back to the doctor, doc.

• 5:34Joe Rogan?

  I can't hear.

• 5:35Speaker 04

  I'll find out, I'll find out.

• 5:36Joe Rogan?

  Okay, tell me what it is, but that dude is very funny, too.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's talented.

• 5:40Joe Rogan?

  So he, super funny in the interview, too, like, very funny back and forth, just a funny dude.

• 5:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 5:45Joe Rogan?

  So two golden tickets in a row, but anyway, that guy killed so hard, that when the other guy came on after him, it's like, holy shit, like, you've got a tough spot here, and he murdered.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  And he murdered, right on top of it. So when he, when he opened for me, there were still a couple of jokes that didn't work, I mean, it wasn't like playing a Kill Tony crowd, that's, it was a different, a little different animal.

• 6:07Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right, of course, it's your crowd.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  And so, uh, but he, he got his footing back and, uh, you know, and, uh, and did a great job for me, so, and then, is it Dedrick, the, the other guy, the...

• 6:18Joe Rogan?

  Yes, Dedrick, yeah, Dedrick Flynn.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:21Joe Rogan?

  Fucking hilarious.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  God, I think he's one of the best around, you know?

• 6:27Joe Rogan?

  Absolutely.

• 6:28Speaker 02

  Just his demeanor on stage, and he's on the show tonight, too.

• 6:30Joe Rogan?

  And that's another dude that almost didn't, like, leave Atlanta, he was stuck in Atlanta and just spinning his wheels, and he couldn't make it happen, and then he came out here and got on Kill Tony, boom!

• 6:40Speaker 02

  It's just such a great opportunity, if you're ready for it, if you're not, it's just another passing moment, and the crowds love it, too, I mean, the crowds get it, but if you're not ready, it ain't, it ain't gonna happen.

• 6:53Joe Rogan?

  Steve Francois.

• 6:54Speaker 02

  Francois, yeah.

• 6:55Speaker 04

  The Comedy Seller, I think he has that added.

• 6:57Joe Rogan?

  That's what he calls himself, the Comedy Seller, like, S-C-L-L-E-R, unlike the club, that's right, that was his crazy name, the Comedy Seller, but very funny dude. Uh, yeah, I mean, it's the greatest thing for comedians in the history of comedy, in terms of like, having a real platform, that if you've been banging it out on the road for seven, eight, nine, ten years, you put together a solid half-hour, hour, you're really starting to tour, you're middling for guys, you're really starting to feel like a real comic, and you got one banger made on Kill Tony, boom, next thing you know, you show up, like, look at all these guys, look at Ari Matty, Ari Matty goes on stage, they go fucking bananas now.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, they do.

• 7:36Joe Rogan?

  William Montgomery, they fucking, the Black Keys asked me to bring William Montgomery to the club, because I was going up that night, and they were coming to the club, they go, "Hey, is William Montgomery coming?" I go, "I'll make sure he comes," I called him up.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  Fuck, man, it's so much fun, you know, and I, even though I enjoyed it when I first saw it out in LA, I did not see, I did not have the vision that Tony has, you know, that it, what it could be someday, I just thought it was a great idea, and I didn't know if it would ever go anywhere, but, good god.

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• 10:32Joe Rogan?

  That's ZipRecruiter.com/Rogan. Meet your match on ZipRecruiter. I told him, maybe like four or five years in, I go, whatever you do, don't stop doing this. I go, this is gonna be one of the biggest shows in comedy. I go, this is so unique and so huge and so different. And the way you host and the way you do it is different than the way anybody else would do it.

• 10:52Speaker 02

  And nobody else could do it.

• 10:54Joe Rogan?

  It's all him.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  It's, it's, he really is, it's pure genius, the show is.

• 11:00Joe Rogan?

  He's a genius host. Like, people hate on that guy. You have no idea how talented he is. That improvisational talent that he has off the bat like that.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  Oh, I have an idea.

• 11:11Joe Rogan?

  Second to none.

• 11:11Speaker 02

  No.

• 11:12Joe Rogan?

  Second to none.

• 11:13Speaker 02

  Second to none.

• 11:13Joe Rogan?

  It's incre- I was telling him, he's like, really? You think so? I go, do not ever stop doing this show. This show's gonna be fucking huge.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Fuck, and it is too.

• 11:21Joe Rogan?

  And now it sells out Madison Square Garden two nights in a row.

• 11:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, wish I could do that.

• 11:27Joe Rogan?

  It's amazing. I love it. I'm so happy for him. And it's so cool to watch. And it's such a positive karma show because all the comics that leave that show and they take off, like, you know, it's just watching Cam Patterson on SNL, watching all these different comedians just sell out all over the country.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  Right, and I love it, man. I love it when somebody hits it, you know?

• 11:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's great for all of us.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  It is.

• 11:52Joe Rogan?

  It's great for the club. It's great for the, the young people coming up to see that it's possible that someone else can make it there. It's like, it's the new like Hollywood, you got a sitcom thing, you know what I mean? It's like very similar. Because back in those days, like when one of your friends got a sitcom, like, holy shit, Mike got cast on fucking Bob's Cousin, whatever the fuck it is, some stupid ass sitcom. And everybody was like, wow, maybe I can make it too. This is the new version of that. You're seeing guys, but in, now it's just stand-up. Like you have a real career in stand-up from it.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  Right. Which is all I've ever done, right? I might, that's, that's all I've ever done, is stand-up comedy. And so that's kind of a weird career, you know? Not to be able to bounce to here off of anything other than just jokes.

• 12:40Joe Rogan?

  Stand-up comedy's a weird career, period. Because, you know, everyone's like psychologically fragile, right? And then you're going through these ups and downs and you're trying to sell tickets and you're trying to be relevant and...

• 12:53Speaker 02

  And something's gotta happen.

• 12:54Joe Rogan?

  Something's gotta happen.

• 12:55Speaker 02

  Right, I mean, there's gotta be a catalyst, right? And for me, it was all, you know, the Blue Collar Comedy Tour. Which now people don't even remember what that is, but at one time, it was a big deal, you know? And it, it...

• 13:06Joe Rogan?

  I think most people my age remember it. Most people are also shocked that there's not another one. That some other guys haven't figured out how to do something like that. Like take that level of comics, like four of them, put them together and go on tour.

• 13:21Speaker 02

  Right, well, you know, with the Killers That Killed Tony, it's kinda like that, you know?

• 13:25Joe Rogan?

  It's a little bit like that.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  The group of some guys, not, not as big as, you know, Foxworthy. And Foxworthy was the only real star of that show when it started, you know? He was, he was willing to share a stage with me and, and that's, you know, that was the catalyst for me. But I'd also been doing stand-up for 14 years and I'd been headlining comedy clubs for 11 of them.

• 13:46Joe Rogan?

  That's the thing, right? It's, there's no substitute for the time in. And there's so many guys that are like right about to crack. You know, that's where Kill Tony really comes along. Guys that have really put that time in, really been on the road.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, if, if you're prepared for the opportunity, then that's the best thing out there for you. And if you're not, then it was just another fucking day at the park, you know? No big deal.

• 14:08Joe Rogan?

  Then you have to figure out what the fuck you're gonna do with your life.

• 14:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, good luck.

• 14:11Joe Rogan?

  Because you bomb on Kill Tony and you're an Uber Eats driver and you're like, oh no. What is my life now?

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, you know, I'm glad that I didn't really get weird exposure early. And that's the worst thing that can happen is you win a contest or something and you don't have the show to back it up with, but all of a sudden you can sell tickets and that's just a, a death spiral is what that is.

• 14:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that could do you in. It's all, there's a, such a dance, like what works and what doesn't work. Guys trying to find their voice on stage and trying to write and trying to figure out what to do. And then also might have a drinking problem, also might do cocaine.

• 14:49Speaker 02

  Right.

• 14:50Joe Rogan?

  Also might have, owe the IRS $50,000. You know, they're like, some of these guys are so fucked up, but like they're some of our favorite artists.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:59Joe Rogan?

  And when they crack through and then all of a sudden become comfortable and make a living, it's a fucking glorious thing to see.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was always neat at the, at the Comedy Store because all the comics parking that parking lot. And you could tell when something happened because it's either shitty cars or great cars. There was no medium cars out there. You were either broke or you had cash. And if you had cash, you had a new car.

• 15:19Joe Rogan?

  I know, there would be times you go back there, it was like Mercedes, Ferrari, Porsche, Corvette.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  Right, Vega.

• 15:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, there was always a lot of people that drank. I always tried to talk Marc Maron into getting a nice car. He would never do it. Him and Ari, like I had an M3 once. I'm like, Marc, this is a sensible car. This is not too crazy. It's not too, look at me.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Fun to drive.

• 15:40Joe Rogan?

  It's so fun to drive. I go, dude, it makes driving a ride. You don't even have to go fast. Just the way it handles, the way it accelerates, the braking, carbon fiber brakes. It's got carbon ceramic brakes, man. It's fucking incredible. It's, it's on rails, this thing. I was like, he goes, how much is it? And like we're going back, he just couldn't be that ostentatious. You know, I've got a lot of money guy. Even when he had a lot of money, I'm like, what's the point?

• 16:06Speaker 02

  I was the same way when I first started making money. Because I just assumed it was all gonna end, right? So, which it does, normally. And, and so I was like, fuck, man, I, I, I just gotta be ready for when this, I gotta make as much money as I can and work as hard as I can before this whole thing comes tumbling fucking down. And it never fucking did. So now, then I was like, oh, somebody's gotta put a stop to this. And, and then I tried, I tried to quit for a little while, but fuck, it's just too much fun.

• 16:35Joe Rogan?

  I spent every penny I had for years. I, I didn't give a fuck. Even when I was on TV, I was living like a baller. I was just spending all my money. I didn't save anything. I was like, if it doesn't go, if it goes out, I'm not living normal now so I could live normal forever. I'll figure out a way to live normal. But like, right now, I'm on fucking television. Like, give me a car. Let's go. I wanna buy a house. I was like, look, if, if I go bankrupt, I've had my car repossessed before. I've been broke before. Like, okay, I'll be broke again. But right now, I'm not broke, so I'm gonna live like I'm not broke.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was living like I wasn't broke this, uh, past three weeks in Switzerland.

• 17:15Joe Rogan?

  That's a nice way to live, man, but I don't think you could do it forever. I think that's the thing, like you have to work as hard as you do. Like, you're always touring, you're always working on your material, you're always writing, you're always doing sets. You're at the club all the time. You're always banging it out. So for you, you've earned that. Like when you kick back and you got a fucking pina colada you don't drink anymore, but you're sitting back with whatever you're doing, just taking in that sun, not a damn thing to do. People are feeding you food.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. The, the work's already been done. Yeah.

• 17:48Joe Rogan?

  But you have to earn that. If you just do that, that's not good on its own. That's it. People look to that thing as if it's like, Jordan Peterson's talked about that before. Like the people imagine their retirement, sitting on a beach drinking margaritas. Like how many margaritas can you drink? How long can you sit on that beach before now you're depressed?

• 18:06Speaker 02

  Or even if it's, even if it's, you, you bought a yacht.

• 18:08Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  How long can you sit on that?

• 18:10Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 18:11Speaker 02

  Uh, before you're bored out of your skull. And, but yeah, I'm, you know, it's, it's, at almost 70 years old, I, you know, fuck yeah, I deserve all the, I get to do whatever I want, so.

• 18:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you get to do whatever you want. And, but again, like 20 days is good.

• 18:27Speaker 02

  Have you ever been to Switzerland?

• 18:28Joe Rogan?

  Get back to work. I have not.

• 18:30Speaker 02

  It's so gorgeous and it's not even that. It's the, the infrastructure of it and you know, we're forty trillion in debt. We don't have a high speed train to anywhere. Where's our shit, you know, and it, but you can get to the top of almost any mountain there at seventy years old. You'll get, take a train to here, a fucking auger cut through a mountain here, then a gondola over there and then over the top. You can actually go to fucking Italy on gondolas from Switzerland and have dinner and come back. It was fucking gorgeous. The only thing I didn't like was pay toilets and, uh, because I didn't have it. You have to have a dollar in Swiss francs.

• 19:10Joe Rogan?

  To take a shit?

• 19:11Speaker 02

  To take a shit. And I'm like, that's discrimination. It's like, why is it discrimination? Only people with a dollar can shit here? And then, and it wouldn't take a euro and it wouldn't take American money. But then I found out, oh, you can use a credit card. So I have to borrow money to shit.

• 19:28Joe Rogan?

  Duh.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  Make payments, pay a dollar.

• 19:31Joe Rogan?

  A dollar to shit.

• 19:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, but if you don't have one of those dollars, you gotta get your credit card out and swipe it on this.

• 19:36Joe Rogan?

  I guess after a while, everybody adjusts and you just keep a dollar with you if you're gonna go out in case you have to shit. And that way at least you keep the riffraff out of the toilets.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, they got a riffraff gotta shit somewhere, you know.

• 19:49Joe Rogan?

  You don't want them shitting on the street.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  And I was, I was about to shit on the floor if I couldn't find a way in. And finally it's another guy behind me says your credit card works. I'm like, duh.

• 19:58Joe Rogan?

  You should be able to do Apple Pay.

• 19:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, straight through to the shitter.

• 20:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, can't you?

• 20:03Speaker 02

  But, uh, but I loved it. I had so much fun. Lake Como was so beautiful.

• 20:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, Switzerland has famously been neutral, right? That's Switzerland and a lot of banks, a lot of banks go over there, right? A lot of money and they don't spend any of it on war.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, they would spend a dime of it on war. And I was asking, you know, it was kind of interesting because, um, I, I went to, to France almo- almost exactly a year before. And I got kicked off that, uh,

• 20:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  cruise ship, the little Viking cruise. Did I ever tell you that story about kicked off of that fucking thing?

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• 21:21Speaker 02

  I knew it was gonna be a problem when I saw the boat, right? Cause I got weed and gummies and shit and I'm like, I don't know if this is gonna work or not, but I'll just see what I can get away with, right? And then, uh, and then I'll deny it and then do something different, you know? We, we parked the boat every day. I can just get off the boat and smoke. I don't really care. And the fucking people came down on me so hard at Viking cruises. And, uh, the, the captain of the ship confronted me in front of a bunch of people, really loud and aggressive. And called me a liar and, uh,

• 21:56Joe Rogan?

  Were you lying?

• 21:57Speaker 02

  No, I was smoking pot out on my deck. And which is where the, the first guy came in and said, hey, listen, you can't smoke pot in your room. But if you wanna smoke pot on your deck, well, that's what I'd been doing, but I hadn't been real careful about keeping the door shut. And this was the, the hotel manager guy, not the captain of the ship, and he was the nicest guy ever. Uh, and, uh, he meant me no harm, just figure this out, you know? Well, the next day we were parked right at the dock and the dock was right there, right off my balcony. And I'm sitting there in a cloud and a little puff going anywhere. And he calls and says, hey, the captain wants to talk to you. And I'm like, do I know what it's about? And he goes, yeah, you know? And I'm like, alright.

• 22:37Speaker 02

  And, uh, they came in just in the hallway, just dressed me down and he said, uh, I said, no, I was smoking pot where that guy told me to. And pointed right at the other dude. And he goes, I think you were smoking pot in your, in your bathroom. And he got in the ventilation system. Oh, you just made that shit up dude. You just called me a liar. I'm one of your customers. I bought a suite on this goddamn thing. And he said, you listen to me. And, and, and at the end of it, he goes, well, listen, if you wanna smoke pot on the top deck, maybe I could look the other way. Why didn't you open with that?

• 23:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 23:08Speaker 02

  Instead of jumping my fucking ass and.

• 23:10Joe Rogan?

  How illegal is pot over there?

• 23:12Speaker 02

  Oh, you know, I was in the wrong, you know, it's probably illegal, but.

• 23:16Joe Rogan?

  But I mean, how illegal?

• 23:17Speaker 02

  Nah, not very. I mean, you can still buy in Paris, you can go to, you can get a fucking card and go in and buy weed.

• 23:23Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 23:23Speaker 02

  And then.

• 23:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's silly man. God, the whole thing's so silly that that's still an issue. I get the whole smoking pot publicly. It is gross, especially to non smokers and people with families.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm not forget how strong the smell is.

• 23:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's strong. I get that. I understand that. That makes sense to me, but the laws against it are just stupid. They're just fucking stupid.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  Speaking of felonies.

• 23:47Joe Rogan?

  You can't do that on the air.

• 23:48Speaker 02

  Huh? I'm not, it's a cigar.

• 23:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay. You can smoke that on the air.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  I brought you one too.

• 23:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, thank you. Let's go.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  It's, uh, actually, I can't tell you where it's from.

• 23:58Joe Rogan?

  Uh-oh.

• 23:59Speaker 02

  Because, uh, that's a felony too, but.

• 24:02Joe Rogan?

  Why?

• 24:03Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 24:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, is this from that other country?

• 24:05Speaker 02

  That, some foreign country, actually bought it and.

• 24:07Joe Rogan?

  I think those are legal to have.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  No, they're not.

• 24:10Joe Rogan?

  I think Cuban cigars are legal to have, and that's not what we're talking about. Cause these definitely wouldn't be Cuban cigars. But I think Cuban cigars are legal to have.

• 24:18Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 24:18Joe Rogan?

  I think you're allowed to have a certain amount of them now. Where it used to be, there was an embargo to all trade to Cuba, and I think there's a limited amount of Cuban cigars you're allowed to possess.

• 24:28Speaker 02

  Let's look that up. I don't think that's right.

• 24:30Joe Rogan?

  I believe that's the case. Do you need a lighter, sir?

• 24:34Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 24:34Joe Rogan?

  Thank you very much. Ron White, ladies and gentlemen, what a gentleman. Boy, this smells like south of Florida.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:46Joe Rogan?

  For, uh, this is tough. Damn, these are legit. Damn, this is a real thing, Ron White.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is.

• 24:55Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. There's like a loophole. Isn't it weird? There's a loophole?

• 24:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:59Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it weird how like some countries are just way better at, at certain shit? Can you buy Cuban cigars at a US shop? No.

• 25:07Speaker 02

  No.

• 25:08Joe Rogan?

  Can you order Cuban cigars online for delivery to the US? No.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can.

• 25:12Joe Rogan?

  Uh, smoke a Cuban cigar while abroad where the law permits it. Generally yes, but do not bring it back. What? That's crazy. Imagine they're telling you whether or not you can smoke a Cuban cigar if you're in England.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  Right.

• 25:28Joe Rogan?

  I used to get them from England. I had a dude in England that would send them to me. This is way back in the dizay and he would send me a box of them with no bands on them. And then he would send me a separate bag with all the bands in it, in an envelope.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  You notice these don't have bands on them?

• 25:43Joe Rogan?

  That's the thing, yeah. But there's so many fake ones.

• 25:47Speaker 02

  No, that's the most, uh, the most counterfeited thing in the world is, uh, Cohiba cigars.

• 25:53Joe Rogan?

  Uh, look at this, says for a period ending September twenty twenty, travelers could bring limited Cuban cigars back for personal use. That exemption was removed, exception was removed. Current CBP guidance says people subject to US jurisdiction may acquire Cuban goods while outside the United States in certain circumstances. But may not import Cuban origin tobacco products into the country. Well, thank God these aren't Cuban.

• 26:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, thank God. Well, I bought them in Switzerland, so I assume they're Swiss.

• 26:23Joe Rogan?

  They must be.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  They must be.

• 26:25Joe Rogan?

  They're really good at everything over there, including cheese.

• 26:27Speaker 02

  Well, they're good at cigars. That's, uh, Zeno Davidoff was Swiss, uh, from Switzerland.

• 26:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:32Joe Rogan?

  Where do they get their tobacco?

• 26:34Speaker 02

  Well, he was, he was, he was rolling cigars, he was making cigars in Cuba. But he smelled the whole thing coming before everybody else did, moved to Dominican Republic. And before he did that, he moved seeds over there, started plantations, moved his rollers over there. So really when that all went down, the only really good cigar, cigar you could get was, uh, Davidoff.

• 26:53Joe Rogan?

  It's kind of crazy how the Cubans really are so much better. There's like a level, they're a level above.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  They're a level above and one of it is the rollers. Uh, they, you know, they just had generational rollers and they have these big rolling rooms. And somebody would sit up in the front of the thing and read them books and they'd just sit there and roll these beautiful fucking classic cigars. That smoke gorgeous and taste gorgeous. Well, if you don't have that, there have been companies that have bought other cigar companies just to get their rollers. And then just continue the line altogether. Now I need these guys twisting up some fucking.

• 27:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you need the wizards.

• 27:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:27Joe Rogan?

  There was a place in Miami where we used to go to, uh, when we would do, uh, the Miami improv. And you could go and watch these people who were, used to be in Cuba and now they're in Miami, rolling cigars. Watch them do it.

• 27:39Speaker 02

  And making beautiful cigars, right?

• 27:42Joe Rogan?

  And they'd sell you the cigars right there. And it's like incredible, you watch them do it.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  And that is pure contraband too, you know, because they're bringing, that, that tobacco's coming from somewhere and.

• 27:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know where they're getting it. They didn't, I don't know if they even said, I don't remember, this is a long time ago, but, uh, you know, you, you can get great cigars from Nicaragua. Great cigars in Dominican Republic, but there is a difference.

• 28:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's a difference.

• 28:05Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy. You know, it's a really small area too, where they grow the best.

• 28:09Speaker 02

  Place. And actually you can still buy pre embargo Cuban cigars in America. So if it was rolled and brought into the country before the embargo, they're legal and there's a market for them and they're expensive. Pre embargo Cuban cigars.

• 28:24Joe Rogan?

  How old are those motherfuckers?

• 28:26Speaker 02

  Well, they have to have been kept the whole time in, uh, humidors.

• 28:29Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 28:29Speaker 02

  Uh, but these big rich guys that, you know, cigars were a penny. And then Cuban cigars came available and they were a nickel. Nobody gonna pay a nickel, you know, this is a hundred and twenty years ago. And, uh, but it turns out they did pay a nickel and they were just that much better. And then those guys, when they heard about that embargo, they bought everything there was and built these huge humidors. And when they died, those things went on the market, you know, and.

• 28:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  I, I stayed at the Fairmont Hotel in, uh, San Francisco and they have a Cuban cigar outlet in that hotel. So you could buy a pre, I bought one, cause it was like two hundred dollars and I'm like.

• 29:08Joe Rogan?

  So it was like a nineteen sixty cigar?

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Sixty-two or something like that.

• 29:12Joe Rogan?

  Crazy. See if you can find those online. Are those available online?

• 29:16Speaker 02

  I'm sure they are.

• 29:17Joe Rogan?

  That's a crazy thing.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  Pre embargo Cubans.

• 29:20Joe Rogan?

  You know JFK or RF, yeah, JFK rather. JFK did that before he made the embargo. He bought a shitload of cigars, brought them back. You motherfucker.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, and he knew what he was doing.

• 29:30Joe Rogan?

  You motherfucker. You motherfucker.

• 29:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:33Joe Rogan?

  You did that and then you made them illegal.

• 29:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 29:36Speaker 02

  What's up?

• 29:38Speaker 04

  It's, it's, I had to click, I was 18 plus on Reddit to look at a picture of them. It says it's NSFW content and it's just pictures of cigars.

• 29:47Joe Rogan?

  Why is that not safe for work?

• 29:48Speaker 04

  I have no idea. Looks like the whole cigar thing is all NSFW.

• 29:52Joe Rogan?

  Pre-embargo 1962. Are those for sale or are they just photos?

• 29:57Speaker 04

  Well, I was just finding a photo. I thought that was super strange. I didn't even get to-

• 29:59Joe Rogan?

  That is super strange.

• 30:00Speaker 04

  If it's on eBay. I probably can't find them on eBay, I bet, but-

• 30:02Joe Rogan?

  It's porn for cigar people.

• 30:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:05Joe Rogan?

  Right? They just want to stare at them.

• 30:06Speaker 02

  I felt it move.

• 30:10Joe Rogan?

  What is it about men who love collecting things that are hard to get?

• 30:16Speaker 02

  Well, I think that, uh, once you have money and then you, you, you, all the things you thought you wanted, you get those and then you want something you can't have.

• 30:24Joe Rogan?

  This is not too bad. This is one that's 300 bucks. For one cigar.

• 30:29Speaker 04

  For one or for a bundle of 25?

• 30:30Joe Rogan?

  What? Really?

• 30:31Speaker 04

  I think it's a bundle of 25.

• 30:32Joe Rogan?

  That's ridiculous. That's really cheap. That's cheap for any Cuban cigar.

• 30:36Speaker 04

  For like a five.

• 30:37Joe Rogan?

  Wow! That can't be possible.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  No. I paid more than that for-

• 30:42Joe Rogan?

  These guys are fucking you.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  Probably fake. This is how you get-

• 30:45Joe Rogan?

  I bet. Maybe it's not.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  Stumble across fake sneakers really quickly.

• 30:48Joe Rogan?

  But is that really?

• 30:49Speaker 04

  You end up buying Jordans you think-

• 30:50Joe Rogan?

  Look at, uh, look at the reviews. You think it's real? It's all four stars, five stars.

• 30:53Speaker 04

  I would just say if you guys are already saying the price isn't right, this is some fake shit.

• 30:56Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Ron would be the one to know. I have no, I didn't even know about this until 20 minutes ago. Maybe it's real.

• 31:01Speaker 04

  This is how people, I'm telling you, say you buy fake Jordans-

• 31:04Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, let's order a box.

• 31:06Speaker 02

  I can't imagine that that's real.

• 31:07Joe Rogan?

  Order a box, please. Add to cart.

• 31:09Speaker 04

  Who's gonna smoke it first and test it?

• 31:10Speaker 02

  I will.

• 31:11Joe Rogan?

  I will. Ron and I will. We'll bring it to the club.

• 31:17Joe Rogan?

  Just pause that. Just put that aside. Send it to me. I'll order a box. We'll see what's up.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  Alright.

• 31:22Joe Rogan?

  See if we, as long as we don't get in trouble. It's totally legal?

• 31:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's totally legal. If it's pre-embargo-

• 31:27Joe Rogan?

  Didn't say that in the other thing. It didn't say pre-embargo.

• 31:30Speaker 04

  First, here's a review. First five pack I bought was not good. Every single cigar was plugged and didn't have a smooth and easy draw. Not just from this particular cigar, but Camacho as a whole. Yeah.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  And he still gave them four stars?

• 31:42Joe Rogan?

  However, the handwritten thank you card I received, I never forgot. And gave Cigar City a second chance. The latest five pack I bought was well worth the price. It's a sad day when the Cuban tobacco bundlers for this cigar are all used up. This may be my number one favorite cigar, hands down. The transition between each third is absolutely incredible. So the first five packs sucked and the second five pack was insane.

• 32:06Speaker 04

  Interesting.

• 32:07Joe Rogan?

  Huh.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  Well, they're cheap.

• 32:09Joe Rogan?

  Maybe, maybe they have-

• 32:10Speaker 04

  They have 10 reviews total. Set five, seven or fives and three or fours.

• 32:14Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 32:16Speaker 04

  I'm just saying.

• 32:16Joe Rogan?

  Eight.

• 32:17Speaker 04

  Alright.

• 32:17Joe Rogan?

  Take a swing at five cigars. Fuck it.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  You can handle it.

• 32:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we'll, we'll see what's up.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Say you get beat out of it.

• 32:25Joe Rogan?

  We'll be alright. I bought dumb as shit.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  No.

• 32:30Joe Rogan?

  For sure. How's that fucking Corvette you got, baby? How's that thing?

• 32:34Speaker 02

  Somebody wants to buy it from me. You know who?

• 32:36Joe Rogan?

  Who?

• 32:37Speaker 02

  Uh, Jay McGraw.

• 32:39Joe Rogan?

  Does he? Oh.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:41Joe Rogan?

  He can get one of those. He can get one built. You don't want to sell yours. Yours is yours. Yours is set up for you.

• 32:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's my car.

• 32:47Joe Rogan?

  That thing's beautiful, man. Yeah, you can't sell that. That's, you have to keep that. That's, someday when you die, that'll, that'll go on auction. It'll be worth a fuckload of money. That thing is beautiful. And it's got a bar in the trunk.

• 32:59Speaker 02

  It doesn't have it anymore.

• 33:00Joe Rogan?

  He took the bar.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  I took it out. So I, cause it didn't have a top because I wanted that bar. For whatever fucking reason, Joe.

• 33:09Joe Rogan?

  Did you get Calvin, Calvin in Austin? Did they do the work on it? I think they did, right?

• 33:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:14Joe Rogan?

  Casey? Yeah, he's the best.

• 33:16Speaker 02

  They, they, they've done some of the work. It was, some of it was done in Atlanta. I mean, the basic build was done in Atlanta, but the setup on it was done by Kurt Busch's race team. He was testing tri, uh, tires at his oval track and, uh, he said, bring it out here. Cause he knew I was building it and he said, I'll, I'll have a guy set it up for you.

• 33:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's awesome.

• 33:33Speaker 02

  And, uh, so there's footage on the internet of him driving at 170 miles an hour on an oval track and me going, "What the fuck dude?" He's doing donuts in it. I'm like, "God damn, I just had that fucking paint job." You could drive it, set it up.

• 33:50Speaker 02

  And he said, "We need to drop that front end, uh, uh, an inch." And, uh, and I said, "Well, yeah, what if we drop that fr-" Ron, we need to drop the front end an inch. You don't need to ask questions. I'm like, "Okay, drop the front end an inch, buddy. You know more about this shit than I do, don't you?"

• 34:06Joe Rogan?

  Those guy, I can't really drive. I can drive. I mean, I've been around a track a few times. I know how to drive. But not like these guys. No, they feel things that you and I wouldn't feel. They're like, "Oh, the left camber's off. This is off. There's something going." It's, you know, they, they have all, you know, the understeer is off, something's off. "I don't like these tires." Like, they feel it with their ass.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. And, and they did a beautiful fucking job on it. And it's so much fun to drive. It scares me a little bit because, you know, it's just got so much power.

• 34:36Joe Rogan?

  It's so light.

• 34:37Speaker 02

  And, and nothing to it, but running over, running over 500 horsepower. And I just had fuel injection put on it. Uh, cause it was running kind of rough early on, you know, when I'd get it started, start cold. But now it just, boom, boom.

• 34:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Was it a carburetor setup before that?

• 34:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Those stink too. The problem is they make your whole car stink like gasoline. You're like, ooh. Those old, I used to like that. I used to like-

• 35:00Speaker 02

  I still like the smell of gasoline.

• 35:02Joe Rogan?

  There's something about you getting an old muscle car. You smell that gasoline. You're like, eh, America. It's just, uh, it's so, a lot of it is nostalgia, you know? Nostalgia from the time when I was, when I was a kid, muscle cars were the thing.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Well, mine's, you know, mine was born the same year I was, 1956. So, so it's been around and it's been around 70 years. That car has, just like me, still running, just like me. So-

• 35:28Joe Rogan?

  Right, but it's got all new parts.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not the same car.

• 35:31Joe Rogan?

  We gotta work on that with you.

• 35:32Speaker 02

  We could've driven away what we didn't use.

• 35:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's the same with mine. My 65, there's nothing in that other than the outside.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Right, that's all mine is too. The frame and I mean, everything was-

• 35:43Joe Rogan?

  Dashboard and some of that stuff. Everything else, you know, it's got a Art Morrison chassis on it and coil over springs and disc brakes and supercharger. It's got an LS engine in it. That thing is, uh, there's nothing about that that's an old car.

• 36:00Speaker 02

  Uh, that's a, I gotta tell you, that's, that, yours is the prettiest Corvette I've seen. And when I first saw that, when I was like, man, I didn't think anybody could beat me in the Corvette department. But that-

• 36:10Joe Rogan?

  That thing's stunning.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  That thing's a dreamboat.

• 36:13Joe Rogan?

  When I first saw it, I was like, oh shit. When I first saw it, it was a lot different. I brought it to my friend Steve Strope. When I first saw it, it had the grossest interior. It had a, it had cheap Corvette bucket seats from like, uh, maybe like a C4 Corvette or a C5. They were terrible seats. And the interior sucked and the, the, the shifter sucked. And, uh, it was a little underpowered. It didn't have the, uh, supercharger in it. And I brought it to Steve Strope. But it did have the chassis. And so we upgraded the suspension and then he upgraded everything else and re, completely redid the interior and put like really solid bucket seats that grip you and-

• 36:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:52Joe Rogan?

  Wider tire and brakes set up. And we got those cool wheels. Those wheels are sick.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, those, that's what-

• 36:57Joe Rogan?

  The solid-

• 36:58Speaker 02

  Really set it off.

• 36:59Joe Rogan?

  Show a photo of that, Jamie. There's a photo of me with Jay Leno, when I did Jay Leno's Garage with it. The wheels are controversial. People either love them or they hate them. I fucking love them. I think it just, I wouldn't like them on, I don't think on many cars, but on that car, it's like the perfect wheel for it.

• 37:15Speaker 02

  What's that green car? I saw you driving out last night.

• 37:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's, that's my other Corvette.

• 37:20Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, look at that son of a bitch.

• 37:21Joe Rogan?

  Look at that. Those wheels rule, dude.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  Those are fucking badass wheels, man.

• 37:26Joe Rogan?

  They rule for that car. That thing is sick. So that was all red. The stripe was red. Steve Strope turned it black and did the wheels and did everything. He really tuned it in nice where it's just dialed in.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's badass.

• 37:39Joe Rogan?

  It's so fun, man. That's me and Jay. Two and down. He's the only other guy that's driven it other than me. That thing's fun. And again, it weighs nothing. It's probably got 550 horsepower now with the supercharger. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you've thought about trying therapy with our long-term partner, BetterHelp, insurance options may now be available nationwide with an average copay for eligible members of just $23 per session. And with World Mental Health Day on the 10th, now's the perfect time to give it a try. In fact, don't even wait until the 10th because all that stress you feel, it's not waiting around.

• 38:18Joe Rogan?

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• 38:59Joe Rogan?

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• 39:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I won't let anybody drive mine, but I'll let you drive it.

• 39:28Joe Rogan?

  Alright. Let's go. Well, you know, we're setting up a studio at the track.

• 39:32Speaker 02

  A what?

• 39:33Joe Rogan?

  We're setting up another studio at the racetrack.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, you told me about that. Like, fucking, at the races a couple of years ago or whatever it was.

• 39:42Joe Rogan?

  Uh, sometime around like November-ish, we'll start doing podcasts out of there. Hope to get it done right around the time Formula One is in town. That'd be fun. So I could get some drivers on and do some podcasts from there.

• 39:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:55Joe Rogan?

  But, uh, so we'll be able to go around the track.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  You gonna do all of them in there or you gonna have both places?

• 39:59Joe Rogan?

  No, some of them. Both places. So we'll be able to go around the track, take guys around the track, take people that have never been around the track. And I, what I want to do is like bring in car companies. Like, so, you know, Mustang has this new dark horse Mustang. It's crazy, 600 horsepower, crazy Mustang. Like, let's let people drive it. You want to sell some Mustangs? Let these guys drive it just for funsies. We'll take some pictures and then we'll do a podcast. Talk some shit, you know, with, with whatever, musicians, comics, people.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:26Joe Rogan?

  And then, you know, have fun on the racetrack.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, we see a ton of those guys at a driftwood out at my golf course. A lot of those guys are golfers and they all go out there and, uh, and play golf whenever they're in town.

• 40:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I'm sure. Race car driving and golfing. I, I, you know, I really wish I could get into golf and I probably will someday. I probably will. I'll probably be forced into it.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  It's a lot like, like, a lot like shooting a bow. In that.

• 40:50Joe Rogan?

  Don't tell me that, cause then I'll, then I can't do it.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, in that, in that, you never do the exact same thing twice. You know, the shot's gonna be either further or shorter, or the wind's gonna be coming from some other way, or whatever, so you're, it's, you really have to, and the big difference is, when you cock a bow, or whatever you call it, that's where all the power is, right? It's already in there, it's built in, you don't have to generate it now.

• 41:16Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  You just aim it, but golf, you have to generate all the power with your body.

• 41:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 41:22Speaker 02

  Which is hard to learn how to do.

• 41:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, I watched Jamie, I watched Jamie do it all the time. You ever seen Jamie whack a ball? That fucking dude can get some distance. Jamie can, Jamie can whack a ball.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  Jamie, you wanna come out to Driftwood and play golf with me?

• 41:36Speaker 04

  I'd love to play at Driftwood.

• 41:37Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 41:38Speaker 04

  Driftwood's a great place, I'd love to play there anytime.

• 41:41Speaker 02

  I'll take you out there.

• 41:42Joe Rogan?

  You got, the dude can, what's your furthest drive?

• 41:45Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, it doesn't, it's all dependent, but I've hit it over 300 yards, which isn't that important, as Ron would know. It's all about what hole you're hitting it on, and is it, like, you know, is it worth it hitting the 300 yards in that hole?

• 41:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:57Joe Rogan?

  How far can you drive a ball?

• 41:59Speaker 02

  Uh, you know, I hit the ball, I, 235, 240, something like that, but, you know, if I really get into one, and I catch the sweet spot, you know, maybe 255, which is nothing compared to 300, but, if you find a 70-year-old dude that can do it, then, uh...

• 42:16Joe Rogan?

  What is like an elite golfer, like the best driver, what, how far do they?

• 42:20Speaker 02

  Well, it'd be Rory McIlroy, probably, at about 325 average, uh, so 100 yards. They hit the ball 100 yards further than me. I played with, uh...

• 42:31Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, you're only 25 yards off of some of the best golfers?

• 42:34Speaker 04

  No, no, no, that's not how I would even word it.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're in the middle of the fairway.

• 42:38Speaker 04

  You're saying like, how far have I ever hit it? Which is what I'm answering. It's not how far do I hit it, which is like, your average. Would you take out your top, your tops, take out your lows?

• 42:47Joe Rogan?

  I see what you're saying.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  What's your average?

• 42:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's very humble of you.

• 42:49Speaker 04

  Well.

• 42:50Joe Rogan?

  I'd be bragging my ass off, 300 yards, bitch.

• 42:52Speaker 04

  No, cause then I get on their ass.

• 42:54Speaker 02

  Shirt made.

• 42:55Joe Rogan?

  Can't prove it.

• 42:55Speaker 02

  Fucking hat.

• 42:56Joe Rogan?

  I'm on their ass. I'm gonna hit 320. Have you seen those guys that go to those driving ranges, and they have these crazy swings, where like, they like completely spin and then rotate their body? They do, almost like do a 180, and then smash it, and... Those guys, it's gotta be way over 300, right?

• 43:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're hitting it at four. They're sometimes 500 yards in some cases.

• 43:17Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 43:18Speaker 04

  They're using specialized equipment, they're playing in a specialized place.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  Yep, but they still can't play the game of golf.

• 43:25Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 43:25Speaker 04

  That's definitely right.

• 43:26Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 43:26Speaker 02

  Or usually, I mean, they usually, they'll make, might be a two or three handicap, they'll be decent at golf.

• 43:31Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  But, they, but the, the elite guys, they can't, they can't touch them in the game.

• 43:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a, there's a similarity in pool, and that's the break shot.

• 43:40Speaker 04

  This guy's the current champion, 579, Kyle Burke.

• 43:44Joe Rogan?

  Jesus, Kyle?

• 43:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:46Joe Rogan?

  That's insane!

• 43:48Speaker 02

  That's a fucking half a mile, isn't it? It is.

• 43:52Speaker 04

  This isn't even like, 425, this is on a course, he's probably got a three wood.

• 43:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, he's a big dude.

• 43:58Speaker 04

  He's also playing out, and he's getting a little bit of help with elevation out there. You can tell he's out in the mountains.

• 44:03Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 44:04Speaker 04

  A little help, a little help. But that's what you want, you wanna hit it on the green, that's kinda what's way more important.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  410 yard carry.

• 44:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, if you can do that, that's...

• 44:11Joe Rogan?

  That's bonkers. That's bonk, wait till some of those like, super athlete NFL players get involved in golf and learn.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  LeBron's gotten involved recently.

• 44:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh god!

• 44:19Speaker 04

  And, he started a YouTube channel, but his, uh, he obviously doesn't have a ton of time to play.

• 44:24Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 44:25Speaker 04

  Cause he's busy, but his growth in the year he's played is pretty remarkable.

• 44:29Joe Rogan?

  Of course, he's a, he's a super athlete. Same with Justin Gagey.

• 44:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, he's, he's really good to start, but he's played forever.

• 44:36Joe Rogan?

  Justin?

• 44:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's, I think, didn't he say he took six months off, or three months off, and played every single day?

• 44:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, what happened was, when he got, uh, hurt in the Max Holloway fight. He, he didn't do nothing, for like, a long time, and he just let his body heal, let his brain heal, and he played golf every day for like, a year. And DC was saying, like, dude, he got so fucking good. Like, and, but of course, he's an athlete. Like, if you're a world champion MMA fighter, you can kind of do anything, if you set your mind to it.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 45:03Joe Rogan?

  You could play golf, you could, he could skateboard, he could do whatever the fuck he wants.

• 45:06Speaker 02

  Because those guys also are ridiculously flexible, right?

• 45:10Joe Rogan?

  He's not that flexible. He's loose, though.

• 45:13Speaker 02

  That's kinda matters, what matters more. I mean, I went to Stretch Zone today, you know, that's where I go to...

• 45:18Joe Rogan?

  You go to Stretch Zone? You go to someone stretches you?

• 45:21Speaker 02

  It's the best thing in the world, man. It's, it's kinda resistant stretching, which it takes an hour. And they just have you on a table, and they're just bending you around, and boy, you can play some golf, when you get off of that.

• 45:35Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 45:35Speaker 02

  Nothing frees up your lower back, you gotta be able to...

• 45:38Joe Rogan?

  How many people are doing it?

• 45:39Speaker 02

  Just one person.

• 45:40Joe Rogan?

  One guy's just holding you down and twisting you?

• 45:42Speaker 02

  They've also got straps, where they strap you to the table, so they, I mean, they can do things to you.

• 45:46Joe Rogan?

  That you can't do to yourself?

• 45:47Speaker 02

  You can't, you, you just can't get that kinda stretch in.

• 45:49Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 45:50Speaker 02

  And I, I, I fucking love the place, and it, it seems like, and it's never busy, and it seems like that, uh, that, cause every, there are tons of old guys out there playing golf, every one of them should be on that table. It, it, it fixes everything.

• 46:05Joe Rogan?

  Do you do anything to work out, to like, strengthen your body, other than playing golf?

• 46:10Speaker 02

  No.

• 46:11Joe Rogan?

  You should probably do like, a light kettlebell routine.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna do a kettlebell, but maybe some, some, some rubber bands or something.

• 46:18Joe Rogan?

  Kettlebells are not hard, man, you don't have to be lifting something heavy.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  I've seen video of you doing it, it looked like it would break me in half!

• 46:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you don't have to do that weight, you could do a real lightweight. A lightweight is a great workout. Sometimes I do, like, if I'm not feeling that good, I'll do a, just a routine that I do, with a 35-pound kettlebell. Just to, if I just, I just wanna break a sweat, I don't wanna really exert myself, but I want movement, and I want my tissue to loosen up, I'll do a whole routine with a 35-pound kettlebell.

• 46:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, and there's no doubt about it, I should do more.

• 46:47Joe Rogan?

  It'd be great for your golf, though. There's a lot of things you do, like rotational twists things, that would be really good for just generating force with your drive, and, and just control of your body, just overall body control.

• 47:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know that I lost, I lost some muscle when I was just losing weight with, uh, with Ozempic, or whatever it was, and, uh, so I know I could get more, and I know that the, the whole secret to me getting to be 80 and still mobile is cause of his leg strength, and, uh...

• 47:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 47:17Speaker 02

  And I was really kind of impressed with myself in Switzerland, cause I, I was getting around pretty good, you know, cause I, I do, you know, I do, uh, whatever, testosterone, and human growth, and all that kinda stuff, so it does make my muscles stronger, cause I was, I was doing things, I'm like, there's no way I'd get up to the top of that thing, and I'd just chug on up there, out of breath, but my legs are fine, you know?

• 47:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it makes you, your body behave like a younger body, that's the whole key. People miss out on that, because they're afraid of the stigma attached to taking testosterone. Like, look, your body doesn't make it anymore. When your body makes it, you feel better. Get all this ideological shit out of your head, especially like, a lot of my like, left-wing friends are very adverse to the idea of taking testosterone. Like, look, you don't have to take a lot of it, it's not, it's not what we're saying. We're not saying get on steroids. What we're saying is, bring your body back to levels that it had, like, when you were 30, and you'll feel so much better, your immune system will work better, you'll sleep better.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  Look, I mean, just look at me, the difference from when I came to Austin, and you came to Austin, and, uh, and, uh, and then I was still drinking really, really hard, and ridiculously hard, and, uh, but, I was 30 pounds heavier, and sluggish, I never felt good, and, uh, and today, just after, you know, just doing, going to Ways the Well, and, you know, taking all that stuff, and, I gotta tell you, I feel better than I have in fucking ever. Uh, I'm just, I think that, that everything in my life is, is stronger than it was then, I mean, I think the stand-up's even stronger, you know?

• 48:54Joe Rogan?

  I think it is too, and I think you add on to that, like, a little bit of weightlifting. I don't mean anything crazy. And one of the best things you could do, is what's called a farmer's carry, just get a couple dumbbells, and just walk. You could walk around your property, you could walk around your street. You know, I do like, a couple hundred yards, and then a couple hundred yards back. I go up a hill, and then I go down a hill. The whole thing takes me like, 15 minutes. It's phenomenal for your body. Like, carrying things, like, carrying heavy things is really good for you, man. It's great for your grip strength, it's great for your back, your core, like, everything, everything felt like, like, right when I first started doing it, my body was like, oh yeah, do more of this. It's like, like intuitively, I was like, oh, this is tying everything together.

• 49:37Joe Rogan?

  Like, moving weight around, I think is very important. Not just standing there, and like, pressing, and doing stuff like, stationary, I think there's some real benefit in like, walking with stuff. Cause you gotta balance it, it's heavy, and you're moving, and your grip gets tired, and you have to set it down, and then you fucking...

• 49:53Speaker 02

  How much weight are you carrying, 200 yards?

• 49:56Joe Rogan?

  140 pounds.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Oh fuck, dude!

• 49:59Joe Rogan?

  But you don't have to do that.

• 50:00Speaker 02

  I saw two little weights in your hands.

• 50:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, these, the kettle, this might be a different time you saw me, but I don't think there's any video of me doing that, but these kettlebells, they're each 70 pounds, so I have one in each hand. And so it's 140 pounds total, and I'm walking up this hill, and then I'm walking down the hill. And I do it every other day. It's phenomenal.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  And then you work out every single day?

• 50:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, every day, every day. Every day I do something, have to do something. Just for sanity.

• 50:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess if you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards in the...

• 50:31Joe Rogan?

  I just wanna maintain, and, and also sanity. The real thing is sanity. The world's nuts. Like, one great way to like, alleviate some of the pressure of paying attention to how nuts the world is, is do something really hard. Do a hard workout. Do a yoga class. Do something difficult. Just something that takes you out of it for a minute, and just relaxes you.

• 50:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'd like to get back into yoga again. I did that for a while, and it was so good for me.

• 50:56Joe Rogan?

  That's one of the best things I bet for golf.

• 50:57Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, it is, no doubt about it, and then you play forever. Just do yoga. I had this hot little yoga instructor come over to my house, and it was just a great way to just fucking start the day, and I did it every day.

• 51:09Joe Rogan?

  What happened?

• 51:10Speaker 02

  Well, other girlfriends didn't like her, cause she was too hot, and I'm like, I don't know, if I'm willing to fade all the heat, just for some yoga, where all my motives suck anyway. I just wanted to be near the...

• 51:23Joe Rogan?

  There's something very hot about yoga ladies, too. Like, a really good one.

• 51:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:28Joe Rogan?

  Oof.

• 51:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, and so, and I'm gonna get back into it, so, yeah, we met a, a, a female trainer the other day, that's friends with John Paul and Eloise, and, uh, so we're gonna hire her to start come over to the house.

• 51:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, there you go. That's a good move. There you go.

• 51:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, cause I'll, I'll, I'll do more with a, with a woman.

• 51:47Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 51:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:48Joe Rogan?

  Just to show her that you can do it?

• 51:50Speaker 02

  You know, just, just, I don't know, I'd just show up for it if it's a woman.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  For some fucking reason.

• 51:58Joe Rogan?

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• 52:58Speaker 02

  But yeah, that's what I, that's what I need to focus on for, uh, next, you know?

• 53:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you gotta keep the body healthy. You know, your body's healthier now than it's been before. Now you gotta start strengthening it. It's real simple and you can, like, there's no reason to get weak. Other than an injury, other than something that's wrong with you, it's out of your control. There's no reason, no reason to just be weak. You could be healthier.

• 53:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'm after it.

• 53:24Joe Rogan?

  It's fun, too. You have more energy for other stuff, you know? Your life has more, you have more vitality.

• 53:32Speaker 02

  It'll only get better, Joe. It'll only get better.

• 53:35Joe Rogan?

  That's what I'm saying, dog.

• 53:36Speaker 02

  How come people are ragging on our club, man?

• 53:38Joe Rogan?

  Who's ragging on our club?

• 53:39Speaker 02

  I've watched it on TikTok. People are, "God damn mothership."

• 53:44Joe Rogan?

  It's a walled garden. Someone warned me about that a long time ago, this philosopher guy that I know. He said, "You gotta be careful because like, it looks like you guys are having too much fun and other people can't get in." And they feel like it's a walled garden, so they wanna shit on it. You know, the thing is like, people like, "Why? Because we're all friends in there." It's because like, it's a very intimate group of friends.

• 54:03Speaker 02

  And we don't know when somebody else is gonna come in there and listen to us bullshit and then go jabber away to some fucking buddy else, so...

• 54:11Joe Rogan?

  Or get upset at some of the things that someone says, because some people say horrible things in that room, don't even mean it, because it's funny. They say it to be funny. And then there's, I've seen some of that. One of the, one of the things that I've seen is people that are talking about like, the kind of comedy that they're, they hear there, and what they're talking about is Brian Holtzman. And they were talking about this guy, he's yelling about gay people, like, like, you, wait, hold on. You're talking about Brian Holtzman. Like, that, what that is, is like the comedy version of death metal, okay? Death metal, people, some people like death metal. Like, you don't have to like death metal.

• 54:47Speaker 02

  And you don't have to watch it or listen to it.

• 54:48Joe Rogan?

  You might be into opera, but that guy is fucking hilarious. And offstage, the sweetest, nicest guy you ever wanna meet?

• 54:56Speaker 02

  Nicest person there is.

• 54:57Joe Rogan?

  Onstage, he becomes this fucking maniac, but it's, it's like satire. It's on purpose. It's not a real person.

• 55:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, it took me a while to get it.

• 55:06Joe Rogan?

  It's brilliant. He's one of the best comics alive. He's one of the funniest guys I know. Like, he's fucking hilarious. Is it offensive? 100%. Yeah, some of the things he's gonna say will offend the fuck out of you. They will offend the fuck out of you. They offend me. I'm like, "Jesus Christ, Holtzman." But you gotta leave room for that. There's always gotta be room for everything. There's room for everything. And if it doesn't work, the people won't laugh. And if they don't laugh, he won't come back, you know? After a while, that's it. But he, they laugh. We laugh hard. And you, you could say, "This is awful that they're laughing at that." And you got a point, but that's not what it is.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  Right. No, I, I'm telling you, I didn't get it at first, and, uh, because I saw him eat it one time and I was like, because he can, you know, he can, he can find a crowd that's tough, uh, but, uh...

• 55:52Joe Rogan?

  That can happen, but a lot of, now, he's got his own crowd.

• 55:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, his own crowd, and they're, they're looking for it.

• 55:57Joe Rogan?

  The other thing that people keep saying is that it's like a right-wing club. The vast majority of the people that are in that club, working in that club are left-wing. That's crazy talk. People just assume, because they connect Tony, you know? And people also connect me to that, when I don't, I think, I mostly think that's because they don't know me. But, and I, because I look right-wing and because I did kinda help Trump, but other than that...

• 56:19Speaker 02

  Other than that? You think that might be what's...

• 56:24Joe Rogan?

  Left-wing my whole life.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  But yeah, well, I know you have very left-wing views on a lot of fucking things.

• 56:30Joe Rogan?

  I have very left-wing views on a lot of things, but I also recognize when, um, government is taking over our lives. And, uh, what we were sold with the Trump administration would be that would end, and, you know, there'd be a drain in the swamp. Obviously, it's not been ideal, like, in that regard.

• 56:49Speaker 02

  I think it's, yeah, well, you know how I feel about it.

• 56:52Joe Rogan?

  A lot of people laugh, a lot of people...

• 56:55Speaker 02

  I'm left of, of, certainly left of some of it, and, uh, but I also, uh, carry a weapon and I believe in the death penalty and, you know, I, but for the most part, you know, I, I'm a left-leaning faction in the green room, you know? I mean, uh...

• 57:16Joe Rogan?

  You and Brian Simpson. Brian Simpson's very left, too. But, you know, Tony's the only one who's like, on the right. Tony's like legitimately right-wing.

• 57:24Speaker 02

  No, yeah, he's MAGA. That's kinda, well, I guess. I don't know.

• 57:29Joe Rogan?

  I don't even know if you would say that, but he's like, pretty openly right-wing. To the point, me and him argue about left-wing, right-wing stuff all the time. But it's like, the problem is not left-wing, right-wing. The problem is like rational and insane. Like, the open borders was insane.

• 57:47Speaker 02

  That was horrible fucking, uh, horrible fucking move.

• 57:51Joe Rogan?

  The COVID mandates were insane. Forcing people to get vaccinated was insane. All that stuff was insane. That stuff scared the shit out of me. The censorship online was insane. All, all the woke nonsense, forcing you to use pronouns and forcing you to never deadname someone, or you get kicked off of Twitter for life. There was so much insanity that we needed some sort of a break moving away from that. And that was, that was my position. I was like, "This is gonna continue." Because like, obviously Biden was not really the president for four years, right? So the people that were all, were running the country will continue to be running the country, these non-elected people. It wouldn't be him. And then when she's in, it would be the same fucking people. Be the same people.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  I voted for him.

• 58:36Joe Rogan?

  I bet you did.

• 58:36Speaker 02

  I did, and because I wouldn't vote for Trump, and, and also, they were, you know, going after women's rights. Well, I'm gonna side with the women, because I don't like any candidate, but I'm gonna vote. And then the women didn't go, and they left me out there like a dumbass, holding my dick, going, "Where were y'all?"

• 58:54Joe Rogan?

  When you say women's rights, you mean abortion, right?

• 58:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, I, I'm gonna be a grandfather in a few months. I don't know if you knew that or not, but...

• 59:03Joe Rogan?

  Congratulations.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuck, I'm so fucking excited about it. And, uh, I mean, I, it's just, uh, I mean, it's happening a little late in life for me, but, you know, now I'm looking like, "Well, if I play my cards right and I live as long as my mother did, I can, I can see this kid through fucking high school."

• 59:20Joe Rogan?

  The abortion rights thing is a weird one. You know, it's like, I don't think I have a right to tell anybody what to do with their body. I'm not a woman. I've never been pregnant. I have no idea what that's like. I have no idea where some guy gets you pregnant and then takes off and you gotta make a decision. And it's four weeks in or six, or if there's medical issues.

• 59:39Speaker 02

  Coming up. It should be between a, a family and their doctor.

• 59:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I've, so, I really, I can't say anything, but there's a weirdness to like, late-term abortions. And I know most people say that late-term abortions are only in the case where it threatens the mother's life and no one really wants to do that. I know someone who got a late-term abortion in New York. And it was just because the boyfriend didn't wanna have the baby and they waited too long and she was pregnant. And it scared the shit out of me. I'm like, "You guys just killed a baby."

• 1:00:11Joe Rogan?

  I'm not saying that happens all the time, but I'm saying just the fact that that can happen scares the shit out of me.

• 1:00:18Speaker 02

  Well, aren't there laws against, even, I mean, even before these laws were passed, weren't there laws saying, "Well, not pass this"?

• 1:00:25Joe Rogan?

  What did they just pass in Massachusetts? Didn't they just pass some new abortion law in Massachusetts? I think, I think the rational thinking is that most women would never wanna abort their baby late-term, right? And if someone's doing that, it has to be extenuating circumstances. And that it has to be because of, and to eliminate that possibility and to put someone through like, a life-threatening situation because they really do need an abortion and the law says they can't have an abortion unless they get some exemption, so they have to prove it, and then the person, the right, life is at risk. So I could see how you would say, "We will allow late-term abortions so that this can never present itself."

• 1:01:04Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:01:05Joe Rogan?

  Massachusetts expands abortion access to any point during pregnancy. On Monday, it joined nine states and Washington DC in eliminating gestational restrictions on abortions. So what does this mean exactly? Let's scroll down. I think this means anytime during the pregnancy. So this means like, eight months, two weeks, you can get an abortion. Most abortions happen when the first trimester. Very few take place after 24 weeks, the previous limit for abortion in the Bay State. Those that do occur after that point often involve situations in which doctors discovered a fetal anomaly late in the pregnancy. Um, Massachusetts law was championed by major medical groups, including the National Society for Maternal Fetal Medicine,

• 1:01:50Joe Rogan?

  the Massachusetts Medical Society, and the state's chapter of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. The law received support from Kate DeNin, the abortions rights activist whose son died in utero at 33 weeks. What is it saying?

• 1:02:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so a lot of people are scared of this because you can have an abortion like really late when the baby is a baby.

• 1:02:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, I'm, you know, fuck, I'm not for that, but I'm for a women, a woman's right to choose if, uh, uh, but for the same reason you just said, I'm not a woman, I don't know what it's like, I don't want the government involved in my.

• 1:02:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's some people that think even in the cases of rape and incest, you shouldn't be able to, which is crazy.

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  Well, right, because then you get to, if you're a rapist, you get to go, I want that chick to have my baby.

• 1:02:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

• 1:02:52Speaker 02

  Oh, well, whatever.

• 1:02:53Joe Rogan?

  What are we, in the medieval days? In the old Viking days?

• 1:02:58Speaker 02

  So what are we gonna do about the Texas Senate? Uh, you, you, you met Talarico, you liked the guy, right?

• 1:03:06Joe Rogan?

  I did like him. Uh, I like his thoughts on the Ten Commandment in schools and public schools. I don't think, I think he's right, and he's a very religious guy, and his position is when you put the Ten Commandments in public schools, what you're really doing is you're forcing Christianity to them, and you're not, you're not, you're probably pushing them away from Christianity, rather than bring, you're like forcing it on them, and if you're gonna do that, how can you do that and not have like scripture from the Hindu text, scripture from the Book of Mormon, Muslim, you know, Islamic texts, why, why, why is it just the Ten Commandments?

• 1:03:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, why isn't there a separation of church and state, that's a state-run organization and?

• 1:03:47Joe Rogan?

  Yes, so his position is that, and I think, you know, he's probably right about this, otherwise he'd get sued, is that there's a couple like very wealthy people who are Christian nationalists, and they want to, um, take over like the school system and turn Texas like completely Christian. And, uh, yeah, I think that's scary. That kind of shit is scary, pushing whatever your ideology is. Look, if you invite people into your church, and you know, you're a person who is of exemplary character, and you're a wonderful guy, and there's something about this guy like, wow, this guy, the way he lives his life, man, I, I really, I think he's really cool and kind.

• 1:04:28Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:04:29Joe Rogan?

  I like to see like what this church is all about. Like, that's how you get people to be interested in what you're doing and the way you're promoting life.

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  It can't be force fed.

• 1:04:36Joe Rogan?

  But you're forcing it on people, you're just gonna push them away from it, it always happens that way. It, you, you force it, you, you can't decide that your way is the way that other people have to live. That's the whole idea of America, is you're supposed to have the freedom to do whatever the fuck you want, as long as you're not hurting others.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:56Joe Rogan?

  And if you wanna believe in whatever, some ancient religion that people gave up on thousands of years ago, who fucking cares?

• 1:05:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 1:05:03Joe Rogan?

  Go ahead.

• 1:05:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I first, I first noticed him when he really came out against that school voucher program, which I was against also, because I came up.

• 1:05:11Joe Rogan?

  What was that, which one was that?

• 1:05:12Speaker 02

  School vouchers, uh, that, that, they, and he, he lost, he fought so hard against it because they wanted to give school vouchers, so you could take this money and go to a private school. But the only people that were using them were people that were already had their kids in private schools, most Texas counties don't have a private school, and a private school can also decide who they want for no reason, they can eliminate anybody, they'll take a student or not take a student.

• 1:05:37Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  And that came out of the public school system, that money, and went into the private school system, and, and Talarico really fought hard against that. Uh, because we need better teachers, we need more teachers, we need the public school system beefed up. Uh, we're, we're getting the shit beat out of us in education, and I think Talarico was really, really good for that, and I think he's a smart, honest man. I hope he never gets sucked into the corruption of all the money, like most people do, but, you know, you really can't put Ken Paxton back in, uh, office in the state of Texas, that guy's just too corrupt, you know, he's just, uh, he's just a bad egg, and, and we don't need him around here.

• 1:06:16Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of shenanigans with weed in this state right now, where there's a lot of alcohol lobby money, and a lot of people are trying to ban weed, and they're trying to make it a felony.

• 1:06:26Speaker 02

  They did it.

• 1:06:27Joe Rogan?

  I know, but they're fighting it, they're fighting it in court now, there's a bunch of cases. It's, uh, it's really stupid.

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  It was such a big step backwards, you know, and, and I was asking one of these guys that owns a head shop, you know, that, that I like, you know, I go in and talk to him every once in a while, I don't like that Delta eight or whatever they were selling anyway, but, but, you know, uh, but these guys really went all in on these businesses that were legal, and all of a sudden, snap, here's, here's the stuff you gotta take out, what do you got left? And, uh, that's really brutal for somebody that really, you know, waited all in.

• 1:07:02Joe Rogan?

  Billions of dollars lost, thousands of jobs.

• 1:07:05Speaker 02

  And I guess they burned the weed, that's what I asked him, I said, what, what'd you do with all that weed?

• 1:07:11Joe Rogan?

  Crazy. It's also, look, regulate it and tax it, you fucking idiots, you're missing out on so much money, and also, leave grown adults to do whatever they wanna do, you're not gonna convince people that weed is fucking PCP, okay, you're not, this ain't Reefer Madness days.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  Right. Yeah, no matter what kind of propaganda you throw out there, we know it's bullshit.

• 1:07:32Joe Rogan?

  We know what weed is now. Can you go crazy if you just smoke too much weed? Yeah, don't smoke too much weed. Can you go crazy if you drink too much? Yeah, don't drink too much. It's the same goddamn thing, don't tell people what to do.

• 1:07:43Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:07:44Joe Rogan?

  You don't have the right, especially when I look at these guys, like, you guys are dorks, you dorks can't decide what other people do and don't do.

• 1:07:51Speaker 02

  And it seems like they, you know, that, that enough of them would have died, that a new set of faces would come around.

• 1:07:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're gonna lose elections, I'll tell you that, because young people aren't tolerating this bullshit anymore, like, this is stupid, and not even young people, most people, most people realize the only way you can come to this conclusion, that there should be laws and felonies, that people should be locked in cages for weed, is if you are either retarded or you're on the take.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:15Joe Rogan?

  It's one of those two things.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  One of those two things.

• 1:08:17Joe Rogan?

  Either you're too fucking stupid to be a leader, or you're on the take.

• 1:08:20Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:08:21Joe Rogan?

  Because this is dumb, and also, you're missing out on so much tax revenue, how much does California make in tax revenue? How much does Colorado make in tax revenue?

• 1:08:30Speaker 02

  Fucking buttload.

• 1:08:31Joe Rogan?

  A buttload.

• 1:08:32Speaker 02

  And, uh, you know, even when some weed was legal in the, in Texas, I got mine from Oklahoma anyway, and, uh...

• 1:08:43Joe Rogan?

  You shouldn't say that online, people, they'll come for you.

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  They will.

• 1:08:46Joe Rogan?

  It's probably like getting those Cuban cigars, fake, not real Cuban cigars.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:51Joe Rogan?

  How much revenue does California, uh, get every year?

• 1:08:55Speaker 04

  There's a state-by-state breakdown.

• 1:08:57Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:08:58Speaker 02

  And we can put that money in the public schools.

• 1:09:00Joe Rogan?

  Seven point seven six five billion.

• 1:09:04Speaker 02

  Billion dollars.

• 1:09:05Joe Rogan?

  Billion dollars.

• 1:09:08Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:09:09Joe Rogan?

  That is fucking crazy, that's so much money. They're missing out on seven billion dollars, and they're missing out on, how much did the tax, how much did the alcohol lobby give you? Could, could have been seven billion.

• 1:09:24Speaker 02

  No, I don't think so.

• 1:09:25Joe Rogan?

  So somebody is either retarded or corrupt.

• 1:09:27Speaker 02

  Corrupt, yeah.

• 1:09:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I, I'm so sick of it, you know, I'm so sick of it.

• 1:09:32Joe Rogan?

  Texas could be making a shitload of revenue with legal marijuana.

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  And bring in some goddamn gambling, we're sending everybody right across the border to fucking Windstar, although I work there, so don't quit going. But, uh, they, they just, poor old, just dump money into Windstar, because Casino in the World is about three hundred yards north of Texas.

• 1:09:54Joe Rogan?

  What do you think about that? Do you think that casinos should be everywhere, and what do you think about like the argument that if you're promoting gambling and you have these casinos, you're gonna ruin people's lives? Because you're gonna give them like easy access to something that they're addicted to?

• 1:10:08Speaker 02

  They've already got access with fucking DraftKings, you know, you can, you can gamble from anywhere, but, you know, they, they can still go to somewhere else and do it, you know, they go right across the border, go to Louisiana, go to, or fly into Vegas for seventy-nine dollars.

• 1:10:23Joe Rogan?

  Right, but there's an argument that you don't want it in your state, there's an argument that, like, if you really care about the people in your state, you would probably make it more difficult to go to these casinos.

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  We have horse racing here, right?

• 1:10:34Joe Rogan?

  Do we? Yeah, you gamble on that?

• 1:10:36Speaker 02

  Not much, but it's, they, they moved Rios down to Texas, the races that were in Rios and New Mexico, or New America.

• 1:10:43Joe Rogan?

  I remember when, uh, I was playing pool in New York, the real gambling junkies, they would start their day at off-track betting, they'd go and gamble on horse races, and then they would come over to the pool hall later in the afternoon.

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  And lose the rest of it.

• 1:10:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, or, you know, or have stories about how they lost.

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  That's a wild group of folks that you were hanging out with in the New York playing pool, wasn't it?

• 1:11:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Homeless people, junkies, pool hustlers, like some of the wildest people I've ever met in my life. It was really fun. There was this one place that I used to go to in New York City, it was called Chelsea Billiards, and it was a 24-hour place, and there regularly you have guys that were sleeping under tables.

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  While it was open?

• 1:11:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because it was open 24 hours. So at nighttime, and they didn't get games, they would just crawl under a table and go to sleep. Because there's a whole downstairs area that was rarely used unless it was like really packed, but it was a real pool hall, a real 24-hour pool hall. I met so many degenerates there. There's a great book about that place. There's a great book called Playing Off the Rail by this guy David McCumber. He was Hunter S. Thompson's editor when Hunter S. Thompson was, I think he was working for a newspaper in the Pacific Northwest for a while. McCumber's a very, very interesting guy, great writer, and he took my friend Tony Anagoni, who was a world-class professional pool player, and they traveled around the country gambling

• 1:12:14Joe Rogan?

  and wrote this book. It's a great book, really, like really accurate, honest book.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  Playing Off the Rail?

• 1:12:19Joe Rogan?

  It's called Playing Off the Rail is the name of the book.

• 1:12:22Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:12:23Joe Rogan?

  And the guy Tony, who was a friend of mine, I did commentary with him on a pool match once in California back in the 90s, and hung out with him a bunch of times, played pool with him, and then one day I got a call from a friend of mine that told me he jumped off the bridge.

• 1:12:39Speaker 02

  No shit.

• 1:12:40Speaker 04

  He was 17 when he did that.

• 1:12:42Joe Rogan?

  He was 17. He was stricken with road fever. No, no, 22 years later, he got the chance. So when he was 17, he tried to do it. So 22 years later, he got the chance to follow that dream, not as a player, but as a stakehorse, financial backer for Tony Anagoni, a non-smoking, macrobiotic-eating, Renaissance pool hustler, student of Eastern religion, and master of the pure green felt poetry of the Dead Stroke. Tony was a brilliant guy, like an incredible pool player, and again, didn't smoke, didn't drink, he would play for like 24 hours and would only drink water. He played these like long gambling matches with like high-end pool players.

• 1:13:26Joe Rogan?

  He was like a world champion caliber pool player, but he jumped off the bridge, man.

• 1:13:31Speaker 02

  No shit.

• 1:13:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I don't know what was going on, you know, I wasn't close with him at the time, I hadn't seen him in a few years, you know, he was living in San Francisco, I was living in LA, and then somebody called me. It's such a scary thing when you don't know that a guy would do that, and then they do it, and you're like, you're always like, what could I have done? Could I have said something? You know, sometimes someone will call you and say something, it picks you up, and Joey Diaz will do that all the time. He just call you up, tell you he loves you.

• 1:14:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, he does that to me.

• 1:14:07Joe Rogan?

  He's the best. And I do it to him too, it's like, it feels good, it's like you check in, you check in with your friends. And sometimes when your friend's going through it and you don't know the extent of it, like a lot of men are stoic about that shit, they don't tell you how bad they're suffering, they don't tell you what's going on, you don't know until it's over, and then you're always like, what could I have said something? Could I have done something? Should I have told other people? What could I have done?

• 1:14:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:33Joe Rogan?

  Like Brody, Brody was a rough one. Brody was a rough one. I had no idea. You know, I knew Brody was struggling, I never thought he would take his own life. I thought he was just like, he just struggled, you know, like to keep it together, but he would get on stage and he would be brilliant. And I was like, this guy's clearly like a great comic, hilarious guy, awesome, awesome guy to be around, everybody loved hanging around with him. So he'll be fine. I had no idea. And then all of a sudden, you get that call, you're like, Brody took his own life, and you're like, what? No, you know, like you, like what? You can't even believe, you don't believe it's real, it's like, how, would it, say it again? I don't believe it's real.

• 1:15:14Speaker 02

  Well, if anybody ever says that I killed myself, I didn't. I am not that kind of person. You go find out, Joe, who killed me.

• 1:15:24Joe Rogan?

  I will find out. Yeah, I won't believe it. Yeah.

• 1:15:28Speaker 02

  I knew you would.

• 1:15:29Joe Rogan?

  I will.

• 1:15:30Speaker 02

  Oh, that's what I was gonna tell you, that I went to that trip in Switzerland.

• 1:15:33Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:15:34Speaker 02

  And then we were taking a ride in the car for two and a half hours to, from Zermatt to Interlaken. And I had this driver from England, Andrew, and he had married a girl from Switzerland and moved there 12 years ago. And when I was in Paris, I really was expecting to get some anti-American sentiment, because they don't really like us that much anyway, but I really didn't feel it. And I'm like, oh, well, maybe I'm building this up more than it is. But in Switzerland, and also in northern Italy, I felt like I'm getting a cold shoulder in these places, and I asked him about it.

• 1:16:19Speaker 02

  I said, is this in my head? And he goes, mate, if you want to know the truth, they don't like your fucking war. They don't like your war. Those guys can hit everybody but you, and you're slinging missiles, and they also don't like the tariffs. If you're doing things over there that fuck you up, they don't care. But if it fucks us up, yeah, we care. I'm like, well, I didn't have anything to do with it. And, but, but that war is sitting pretty nasty with just about everybody, I think.

• 1:16:54Joe Rogan?

  Everybody here too. There's very few people here that think it's a good idea. This episode is brought to you by Visible. As fall hits, we enter another season of change. Time to shift gears, drop the dead weight, and upgrade the wardrobe for the drop in temperature. But one thing that doesn't need to change? Your phone. The smartest upgrade this season isn't a new phone, it's a better wireless plan. Switch to Visible, the ultimate wireless hack. You get unlimited 5G data and unlimited hotspot powered by Verizon for just $25 a month. That means keeping the phone you already have, ditching your overpriced phone bill, and pocketing some savings for yourself. All the perks of big wireless for half the cost.

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  No monthly fees, no overdraft fees, and thousands of fee-free ATMs. But here's the real kicker, if you get their Chime card, it gives you 5% cash back on a category you actually pick yourself. Your savings rate, crazy high, it's nine times the national average. They're calling it the most rewarding way to bank. Go to chime.com/rogan. Takes a few minutes to sign up. Chime is a fintech, not a bank, banking services and Chime card provided by Chime's bank partners. Terms and limits apply. Go to chime.com/disclosures for more details. The only people that I've heard that I think are very intelligent people that think it's

• 1:19:02Joe Rogan?

  a good idea, one of them was Palmer Lucky. Palmer Lucky's a tech guy, very, very smart guy. And one of the things that he was on a podcast and he was explaining was that Iran had ramped up its missile production, like above and beyond, and they were like actively accelerating their missile program. And if they did acquire a nuke, it would have been a real problem, because they have an insane reserve of missiles, is what he was saying. He was saying, if we continue to allow them to ramp that up, and obviously, the other thing people have said is the timing was poor, and that really, if the United States was gonna attack Iran, they should have attacked Iran when they had the protests.

• 1:19:46Joe Rogan?

  When they had people in the streets and they were revolting against the government and the government was executing civilians, that's the time. And if they did it then, I bet the whole world would be with them, and I bet the people probably would be with them, the people of Iran would be with them, who knows what the fuck would have happened? Would have been a different thing.

• 1:20:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:02Joe Rogan?

  But the timing was way off. And his position is also interesting because he makes weapons, right? He makes drones, he makes like super sophisticated military technology, but he does it because he thinks, well, also it's his business, but he does it, his rationale is that it's important to have a very strong defense, and that he's a patriot. That's his position. And his position is that this government is a dangerous government, and they were actively trying to ramp up their missile program. Again, you have to take it from perspective that he's also a weapons man.

• 1:20:39Speaker 02

  Right, he's also.

• 1:20:40Joe Rogan?

  But he is a brilliant guy.

• 1:20:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've seen.

• 1:20:43Joe Rogan?

  And it's not like they're, like the Iranian government's really cool and we're misrepresenting them. They're fucking executing people for protesting against the government. They're doing that in the street. They run their government, they run their country with an iron fist, it's scary. They definitely sponsor terrorism, they definitely do. But also, you know, they've been attacked, they've been overthrown, you know, we installed their government.

• 1:21:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:07Joe Rogan?

  You know, like we monkeyed with it, Iran in the 70s or the 50s, whatever it was, when you see those photographs of it, like it was very Western, like they had a democracy.

• 1:21:16Speaker 02

  Fuck yeah, it would look nice over there.

• 1:21:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we fucked it all up. It was a big part of us fucking it all up, and I bet a lot of it had to do with oil.

• 1:21:24Speaker 02

  I bet it did. I bet it did.

• 1:21:27Joe Rogan?

  It's so spooky, the kind of shit that we've been doing and they've been doing, and all these governments have been doing all around the world, monkeying with other people's fucking countries.

• 1:21:38Joe Rogan?

  It's like, Jesus Christ, everybody's out there playing Russian roulette. Like, what the fuck are you doing?

• 1:21:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, and you know, Israel's right in the middle of all that missile slinging also, you know, and but boy, they don't like it. They don't like it. And I don't think they understood that the only thing that keeping

• 1:21:56Speaker 02

  Iran from bombing other people was us. So when we started bombing them, they're like, what the fuck?

• 1:22:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:01Speaker 02

  I'm gonna start shooting some stuff out to Bahrain and Qatar and

• 1:22:07Joe Rogan?

  That's the other thing is all the other Gulf states that support the attack in Iran. That's kinda nuts. There's all, you know, all those other countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar and all, they support it. Like, they don't want Iran to get a nuclear weapon. They don't want Iran to have that kinda power. But most people in America are like, what, this was the whole reason why would, one of the things that people loved about Trump was no more bullshit wars.

• 1:22:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:34Joe Rogan?

  No more wars. No more unnecessary wars.

• 1:22:37Speaker 02

  That was the one thing I couldn't argue with.

• 1:22:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:39Speaker 02

  You know, like, okay, well, then, yeah, we don't need to be in a war.

• 1:22:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and that's what we hoped, you know, but it seems like we're in one.

• 1:22:46Speaker 02

  Seems like it. They won't call it that, but that's what it seems like to me.

• 1:22:50Joe Rogan?

  What are they calling it? A conflict?

• 1:22:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, conflict, military conflict, same as Vietnam.

• 1:22:54Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 1:22:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's like, that, like, that was a good idea.

• 1:22:58Joe Rogan?

  I looked up something crazy last night. I just, like, I think I asked Grok or one of the things, like, how many

• 1:23:03Speaker 02

  Could you talk just a little louder?

• 1:23:04Joe Rogan?

  Sure. How many years has the United States been in conflicts? I think just like in general, total. And it said that, like, only from the years from nineteen, or sorry, eighteen ninety-one to eighteen ninety-seven were we not in a conflict. And since World War II, we've been in some sort of something every year.

• 1:23:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:25Joe Rogan?

  Every single year since whatever, forty-five.

• 1:23:26Speaker 02

  Not a thing like Switzerland.

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  We're in all of them, all of them.

• 1:23:31Joe Rogan?

  Whoo.

• 1:23:33Speaker 02

  And I think it's, uh, I think it's that a lot of it is just exactly what you were talking about. It is the, the big machine that is defense, you know?

• 1:23:42Joe Rogan?

  It's a huge machine. The budget is insane. The amount of money is insane. And they wanna keep making that money.

• 1:23:47Speaker 02

  That's why we don't have our high-speed rails.

• 1:23:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, also, they tried to do that in California. It seems like people stole the money. I don't know what the fuck they did there. You know how much they spent on the high-speed rail in California? It's insane. It's like, they haven't even laid the tracks yet. They've spent billions. They're way over budget. It's gonna take forever. And even then, there's a part that you have to take a bus. You could do it, like, yeah. Who's explaining that to us?

• 1:24:11Speaker 02

  It's not a high-speed bus either, a regular bus.

• 1:24:14Joe Rogan?

  No, it's a regular bus, regular bus. You, you take, the high-speed goes to a very short distance, you get off, you get on a bus, and you go from, like, Bakersfield to LA on a bus.

• 1:24:25Joe Rogan?

  And they spent, they spent billions, billions of dollars in this.

• 1:24:29Speaker 02

  They didn't figure out the end of it.

• 1:24:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's so stupid.

• 1:24:31Speaker 02

  And then you can just take a bus where you're going.

• 1:24:32Joe Rogan?

  It's so stupid. And then they had Gavin Newsom, like, posed in front of trains the other day, did like a press conference, like, talking about how they're moving forward with the high-speed rail, like, bitch, that thing ain't ever gonna work. It's just a grift. They're just stealing money. Ugh.

• 1:24:49Speaker 02

  Like those goddamn condors.

• 1:24:52Joe Rogan?

  What about the condors?

• 1:24:54Speaker 02

  I don't think they're real.

• 1:24:55Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 1:24:56Speaker 02

  I just don't think they're real. I don't think there's a shortage of them. I don't. I, I think we just got the right amount of condors, and it's nature's way of taking care of itself. It's an ugly bird.

• 1:25:06Joe Rogan?

  So do you think that, um, when people were saying that the condors were endangered, do you think that there's a grift attached to that?

• 1:25:13Speaker 02

  That's what I think.

• 1:25:14Joe Rogan?

  What would be the grift?

• 1:25:15Speaker 02

  The grift is, give us money so we can save these condors. And then boom, you got money, and, uh, are you saving condors with it? Well, we don't know.

• 1:25:24Joe Rogan?

  Are you a position that condors should be allowed to go extinct?

• 1:25:26Speaker 02

  Good, what?

• 1:25:27Joe Rogan?

  Should they be allowed to go extinct?

• 1:25:29Speaker 02

  If they want to. They can leave it up to the condors. If they don't wanna fuck anymore, quit fucking.

• 1:25:36Joe Rogan?

  One of the things that they've said was that, uh, a lot of them were dying from lead poisoning, from bullets, from hunters. And so they made the hunters switch over to, uh, copper bullets. Do you know that?

• 1:25:47Speaker 02

  And that doesn't

• 1:25:49Joe Rogan?

  California, you have to have copper bullets now.

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  In your shotgun?

• 1:25:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and in rifles too. Like, if you shoot an elk with a rifle in California, you have to have a copper bullet.

• 1:26:00Speaker 02

  No shit?

• 1:26:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and I think

• 1:26:02Speaker 02

  Do you use copper bullets anyway?

• 1:26:03Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't. I don't really hunt with a rifle.

• 1:26:06Speaker 02

  Oh, you're, you're just a bogeyman?

• 1:26:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, um, but it's, it's effective. They work. I've, I've killed an elk with a copper bullet before. It does work. I shot an elk in California with a rifle. But it's, um, it's weird because I don't know if that's really what's killing the condors. I don't know. Does that really? How many birds die from lead poisoning from bullets? That seems kinda

• 1:26:29Speaker 02

  They fly awfully high.

• 1:26:31Joe Rogan?

  How many hunters are losing animals that there's, there's that many bullets that are just laying around that birds are eating?

• 1:26:36Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:26:37Joe Rogan?

  I don't think that's right. That seems like a weird connection. Like, see, if like, if a bird made a habit of eating lead, yeah, that'd be fucking terrible for you. But is that really affecting the population? There's that much lead out there?

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  I wouldn't think so.

• 1:26:52Joe Rogan?

  It sounds kooky.

• 1:26:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:54Joe Rogan?

  But I don't know.

• 1:26:55Speaker 02

  I don't either.

• 1:26:55Joe Rogan?

  You know, but this, you know, there's always these weird like, regulations they put down on things to protect wildlife. It gets super squirrely. I don't, is there any data that shows that animals were dying from lead poisoning for bullets?

• 1:27:16Joe Rogan?

  Why would, um, I wonder why they would make, cause like, California just passed some crazy law where they, uh, made seventy percent of all tires illegal?

• 1:27:25Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:27:26Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:27:27Speaker 02

  Seventy percent of tires?

• 1:27:29Joe Rogan?

  Seventy percent of the tires that are being sold in California will now be illegal.

• 1:27:34Speaker 02

  Because what?

• 1:27:35Joe Rogan?

  Some crazy new regulations about what kind of tires you're allowed to have.

• 1:27:39Speaker 02

  What they're made out of?

• 1:27:41Joe Rogan?

  How they're made, their construction method, the quality of them, blah, blah, blah, what, how efficient they are, whatever it is. Seventy percent.

• 1:27:51Speaker 02

  What are they gonna use for tires?

• 1:27:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're just gonna be able to sell thirty percent of the tires. They're gonna have to sell more of those tires, but it's gonna probably cost the consumer a lot more money. It's probably gonna fuck up the manufacturers, fuck up their businesses. Um, and it's, uh, some regulation that's supposed to work with, uh, it's supposed to save gas somehow. The more efficient tires over time will save millions of gallons of gas, like, stay the fuck out of people's business, you cunts. California has approved a new replacement tire efficiency program, not a ban on tires you already own. Right, but it, but it bans the tires you can sell. This is a weird way to frame it.

• 1:28:32Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, your tires are gonna wear out, and then you gotta replace them with these.

• 1:28:35Joe Rogan?

  It regulates which new replacement tires may be sold in California for pasture vehicles. What changes? California Energy Commission unanimously, unanimously adopted the rule on August seventeenth, twenty twenty-six. Its purpose is to ensure replacement tires are, on average, at least as energy efficient as original equipment tires fitted to new vehicles. The key technical measure is rolling resistance. Lower rolling resistance generally means less energy is needed to keep the tire rolling, which can improve gas mileage or EV range. So it's basically like, you can't buy cheap tires. You have to buy the same kind of tires that your car came with.

• 1:29:16Speaker 02

  Well, so they're really kinda putting a ban on shitty tires. Are there people out there just making shitty tires and they're trying to get rid of them?

• 1:29:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're probably making tires that are less expensive.

• 1:29:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:25Joe Rogan?

  And still pretty good. Like, if you're driving a Camry, do you really need original equipment tires? Your car sucks. Your car has

• 1:29:32Speaker 02

  Oh, no, I would be looking for the cheapest tire I could put on that car just to get to the next payday.

• 1:29:37Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. So if you're broke and you're different, the difference is like a seventy-nine dollar tire or a fifty-nine dollar tire, and it's basically the same to you.

• 1:29:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, just put them on the Camry.

• 1:29:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and now all of a sudden, these tire shops, they can't sell them anymore? What? So what if you have inventory? Do you have to get rid of your inventory? Do I have to dump all my, what if, what if you're a guy, like, you worked at Tires RS, and, you know, you said, you know, it'd be cool if I could ensure that I had every fucking tire for ninety percent of the cars right away. I'll stack them, I'll stock them here, and that way I'll get a whole ton of business. We have your tires.

• 1:30:15Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:30:15Joe Rogan?

  And then all of a sudden, you gotta get rid of all those tires?

• 1:30:17Speaker 02

  We ain't got your tire no more.

• 1:30:19Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:30:21Speaker 02

  Seems like there'd be a lot of other things to worry about.

• 1:30:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, I have, uh, my buddy Matt, who was at the club last night, his house burnt down in the Pacific Palisades fire, and the, he's like, the regulations you're going through to try to rebuild your house are fucking insane. He's like, we're not even close to starting construction. And he's got money. And he, you know, he's like, he could just start construction right away.

• 1:30:42Speaker 02

  Are they just gonna change the way they build houses there to make them less fireproof?

• 1:30:46Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what they're doing, man. They're just making it, the regulations are insane. It's just like, there's so much red tape before you can begin construction again. Whereas in Texas, if your house burnt down, you go, oh, here's the plans for the new house. They go, oh, it looks good, it's up to code.

• 1:31:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:01Joe Rogan?

  Good luck. Build your fucking house. And you just build your house. That's it.

• 1:31:05Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:31:05Joe Rogan?

  You're on that California Coastal Commission, bro.

• 1:31:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:09Joe Rogan?

  They are brutal. Those people are brutal.

• 1:31:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm, I'm glad I'm out of the, uh, real estate fucking

• 1:31:17Joe Rogan?

  The California real estate thing?

• 1:31:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:19Joe Rogan?

  Well

• 1:31:19Speaker 02

  I'm glad I got out when I did.

• 1:31:21Joe Rogan?

  A lot of people are trying to get out now.

• 1:31:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:23Joe Rogan?

  I know a bunch of friends that are trying to get out and they can't sell their house.

• 1:31:26Speaker 02

  But I gotta tell you, I still love, uh, Southern California, man. I love to go out there and play golf and hang out with my, you know, I still know a lot of people down there. Southern California is beautiful, you know?

• 1:31:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's beautiful.

• 1:31:37Speaker 02

  That fucking climate is just untouchable anywhere in the world.

• 1:31:41Joe Rogan?

  Which is amazing that they fucked it up so bad that people wanna move from there.

• 1:31:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:45Joe Rogan?

  Cause it's awesome. It's not just awesome, it's like the variety of environments you can get to within two hours. It's crazy.

• 1:31:53Speaker 02

  Remember, you were gonna buy that big ranch out in, uh, Montecito or Santa Barbara or somewhere? I didn't even know you had money then. Whenever you first told me that, I was like, oh, yeah. All right, you have no idea what it costs to buy a fucking piece of property and, uh, fucking, what do you got, a podcast and a couple of fucking shows? First time I did your podcast, I didn't even know what it was. I was like, you asked me to do it, I was like, I gotta, I gotta come do your podcast. I had no idea it was fucking millions of people, and it sold books and tickets, and I'm like, goddamn, Joe, what do you got going on over here?

• 1:32:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, it was, you know, back then, it was like kinda under the radar. People didn't know what a podcast was. But still, millions of people were listening to them.

• 1:32:36Speaker 02

  How many subscribers do you have now? Do you even know?

• 1:32:40Joe Rogan?

  I think on YouTube, what do we have, twenty-something?

• 1:32:45Joe Rogan?

  Twenty million on YouTube and same on Spotify. It's like twenty million subscribers.

• 1:32:50Speaker 02

  Fuck.

• 1:32:52Joe Rogan?

  That's a lot of people.

• 1:32:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's.

• 1:32:56Speaker 02

  I was talking to Angela about it this morning and she said, what are you doing? I'm doing Joe's podcast. I'm gonna go talk to twenty million people and I really don't have anything to say. So she goes, well, Joe will lead you through it. You'll be fine. I'm like, I know, but it's still twenty million fucking people.

• 1:33:16Joe Rogan?

  You can't think about it.

• 1:33:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:33:18Joe Rogan?

  If you think about it, it'll fuck your head up.

• 1:33:19Speaker 02

  I just started thinking about it. Fucked me up.

• 1:33:21Joe Rogan?

  Don't do it. Let it go.

• 1:33:23Speaker 02

  Do I know any of them? I know a lot of them.

• 1:33:25Joe Rogan?

  Listen, they're just folks like you and me. That's why it works.

• 1:33:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:29Joe Rogan?

  You know, we just have lucky lives.

• 1:33:33Speaker 02

  We have lucky lives, Joe.

• 1:33:35Joe Rogan?

  Very lucky lives.

• 1:33:35Speaker 02

  Lucky lives.

• 1:33:37Joe Rogan?

  That's the best way to put it.

• 1:33:38Speaker 02

  I'm gonna do, you know, next week I'm celebrating forty years in stand-up comedy.

• 1:33:45Joe Rogan?

  That's amazing.

• 1:33:45Speaker 02

  September seventeenth, nineteen eighty-six is when I first started telling jokes.

• 1:33:50Joe Rogan?

  Where are you? Are you doing a set that night?

• 1:33:52Speaker 02

  I am. I got a show in Dallas that night.

• 1:33:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice.

• 1:33:56Speaker 02

  And, and, and I'm leaving this weekend for the first, I've been off for four months, so I'm going to Florida, I think Daytona and I don't know.

• 1:34:07Joe Rogan?

  I always love to do stand-up in Dallas. Dallas is a fun city.

• 1:34:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:34:12Joe Rogan?

  That's fun. I always loved Dallas. I always loved Houston and I always loved Dallas.

• 1:34:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love Houston too. I just have that one big play out in Katy, that big gigantic room out there. And I don't even go into Houston anymore. I just go to Katy. That's as far as I go.

• 1:34:28Joe Rogan?

  What is the place?

• 1:34:29Speaker 02

  Oh, I don't know. It's that six thousand seater. You played it, right? That big old huge thing. They can block parts of it off.

• 1:34:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do that spot, yeah.

• 1:34:36Speaker 02

  Big fucking, I, I think they changed the name of it every two years, you know, put a new sponsor on it. It was a Toyota something.

• 1:34:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they always do stuff like that, right?

• 1:34:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:44Joe Rogan?

  That's always weird. It's always a bank or some corporation or something.

• 1:34:48Speaker 02

  I could never find a room in that town that I liked was, there was, the, the, the really nice one was too small. And they had this big concrete vomitorium downtown that used to be a rock house. You could just wash vomit out of it with a fucking hose. Had a lady fall out of the fucking balcony twenty-six feet, landed on another lady, flattened a fucking metal chair.

• 1:35:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 1:35:11Speaker 02

  Both of them left and I thought a light fell from the sky. I didn't know. I was on stage and people were going, huh, whoo, huh, huh. People screaming. I'm like, fuck, fuck. And turned the lights on and we got fucking ambulance, fucking stretchers coming out. They both left on fucking stretchers.

• 1:35:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:35:29Speaker 02

  And a big lady too, buck eighty, fucking flattened another woman and her chair.

• 1:35:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:35:35Speaker 02

  Then the next show, the same night, guy has a heart attack and dies. And I'm like, is this an Indian burial ground or some shit? Jesus Christ. What the fuck? And that, but, and that was my only play there. And then they opened that big building out in Katy. I'm like, okay, this is mine, boys.

• 1:35:56Joe Rogan?

  That place is haunted.

• 1:35:57Speaker 02

  Fuck, yeah, I'm not going back.

• 1:35:58Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever talked to anybody else that had weird things happen in that place?

• 1:36:01Speaker 02

  Uh, I really hadn't, but I, you know.

• 1:36:04Joe Rogan?

  Two nights, two sho- or two shows.

• 1:36:05Speaker 02

  Two shows in one night.

• 1:36:06Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts.

• 1:36:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I always thought, man, these balconies are awfully fucking steep. Cause you could go up there and sit in it and go, how do people, what keeps them from falling over? Nothing. Not a goddamn thing. Woman just lost her balance and went right over the fucking edge.

• 1:36:22Joe Rogan?

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• 1:38:33Joe Rogan?

  That's promo code JRE or go to lifelock.com/jre for thirty percent off. Terms apply. I was watching some YouTube video where there's, I like watching those real estate shows where guys like, look at this incredible apartment.

• 1:38:50Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:38:50Joe Rogan?

  Look at the amenities. I don't know why. I'm a moron. I like watching.

• 1:38:53Speaker 02

  I like real estate shit.

• 1:38:55Joe Rogan?

  I like watching condos and places. I'll never buy a condo. So he's at this crazy condo that's a penthouse in Miami. It's like seventy million dollars and it's got this glass wall that's like titty high. And then down, like seventy flights.

• 1:39:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:39:14Joe Rogan?

  Glass wall and then look over the side. Like, I can't swing that. I don't like that feeling.

• 1:39:20Speaker 02

  I don't like it worse if I have my phone in my hand because I can fall off. That's fine, but I can't let that phone go.

• 1:39:27Joe Rogan?

  What if the phone hits somebody in the head and kills them? Oh.

• 1:39:29Speaker 02

  It'd be on you, wouldn't it?

• 1:39:30Joe Rogan?

  It would be on you.

• 1:39:31Speaker 02

  It'd be easy to trace that motherfucker right on back to where it came from.

• 1:39:33Joe Rogan?

  Wouldn't be hard. It's just like the, the balcony thing. I see that in New York City too. Some of those apartments that have balconies and you just look over the ledge. Like, that's too weird. It's too weird that there's a place in your house where you could definitely die if you take an extra step.

• 1:39:48Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:39:48Joe Rogan?

  I would say, don't live in a place where you could definitely die if you take an extra step. Just generally, as a rule. That's gotta fuck with your anxiety too. Imagine getting high up there and looking down.

• 1:40:00Speaker 02

  I've, I've still got that penthouse, but it's only twenty-two floors.

• 1:40:03Joe Rogan?

  That's enough.

• 1:40:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's plenty.

• 1:40:05Joe Rogan?

  I've been to your place. That's enough. That's more than enough to die. More than enough.

• 1:40:10Speaker 04

  I live like six hundred feet in the sky.

• 1:40:12Joe Rogan?

  I know you do, dude. You live way the fuck up there.

• 1:40:14Speaker 04

  I asked someone who lives up there too. I have a couple weird dreams sometimes where like the building is falling over. It's not like a crash or a big event, but like it's just weird inception, like mind bending, just falling to the ground very slowly and weirdly. It's fucked. Cause you can feel the sway. I see my toilet water move all the time.

• 1:40:34Joe Rogan?

  Fuck that, dude. Get out. Get out now. Don't say it. Can't say it.

• 1:40:38Speaker 02

  Oh, you can't say it.

• 1:40:38Speaker 04

  I live downtown also.

• 1:40:40Joe Rogan?

  Don't, get out now. Get out now. Get yourself a place in.

• 1:40:43Speaker 04

  I have a really cool view. You can't, like, the view is insane.

• 1:40:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Your view is sick. Yeah. I mean, there's pros to it for sure. Like whenever I'm in New York City, if I know somebody that has an apartment. My friend's dad had an apartment in New York City and he had a, like this corner building, like this building where his, his apartment had glass on one side, glass on the other. It was just all city and it was in the middle of everything. And I was like, this is the view. Like a lot of people have the view of like the city in the distance, but the city right on top of you.

• 1:41:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:14Joe Rogan?

  And he was like, you know, like thirtieth floor or something like that. And there's all these other buildings. It's like, like a sci-fi movie, you know? It's like, it's so exciting, just the feeling of all these lit windows and all these buildings around you and looking down, seeing the cars and traffic.

• 1:41:29Speaker 02

  All the fucking stories, man. Everybody has, you know.

• 1:41:32Joe Rogan?

  And everybody's like, watching everybody else. Everybody's got fucking binoculars. They're looking into other people's windows and seeing that people are fucking.

• 1:41:39Speaker 02

  I've got them. I got a big old fucking tripod.

• 1:41:45Speaker 02

  I hadn't seen titty one with it. I don't know how much I spent on that goddamn thing. I hadn't seen one tit.

• 1:41:52Joe Rogan?

  The New York City thing, I, I kinda get, but I don't. I mean, I, I think, I get it. If you, if I was a single guy and I was younger, I kinda get it. But someone like, to me, I'm just being on top of people like that. It's not good for you. I don't think it's good for you to be smushed in with so many people, like to feel all their vibe around you all the time.

• 1:42:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I love to go there. I used to take my mother. My mother used to go, love to go to fucking theater there. So my mother was alive. I would take her to New York and we went to see a fan of the opera and like halfway through it, I leaned over to my mother and said, I didn't realize it was an opera. Well, it's in the name. I know, but I still didn't know it was gonna be a fucking opera.

• 1:42:34Joe Rogan?

  It was gonna be like the movie?

• 1:42:35Speaker 02

  A play. Yeah, I didn't know it was gonna be just a straight up fucking opera. I wouldn't have gone. But we also went to see Book of Mormon with the original cast and that was so fucking funny, man.

• 1:42:46Joe Rogan?

  Book of Mormon's amazing.

• 1:42:47Speaker 02

  God, what a great fuck. Those fucking South Park boys, South America.

• 1:42:50Joe Rogan?

  Didn't, yeah, they changed the name of their show to South America for Trump? Or was it an episode?

• 1:42:56Speaker 02

  No, it's the next year. That's what it's gonna be called. Yep. That is the best joke. I laughed out loud. I read it on my phone by myself at the house and laughed out loud. That is fucking rich.

• 1:43:09Joe Rogan?

  That was so silly.

• 1:43:10Speaker 02

  Those guys, you can't fuck with those guys. They're funny and they don't give a shit.

• 1:43:14Joe Rogan?

  And they're super rich.

• 1:43:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, super fucking rich.

• 1:43:17Speaker 04

  The website has it as South America now.

• 1:43:24Speaker 02

  Fucking amazing. I couldn't live without South Park.

• 1:43:28Speaker 04

  That means we'll get a new theme song.

• 1:43:29Joe Rogan?

  They're like the only thing that Comedy Central didn't fuck up.

• 1:43:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, they just wouldn't let them fuck it up, you know, they they had so much power, you know, with the success of that show, I guess they don't fuck with us.

• 1:43:41Joe Rogan?

  I remember when the first tape was going around, the VHS tape. Yeah. What would Brian Boitano do? Remember that?

• 1:43:47Speaker 02

  What would Brian Boitano do if he weren't here right now? He'd make a plan and follow through.

• 1:43:53Joe Rogan?

  That's back before the internet. That's what's really crazy. South Park was around before the internet was everywhere. So this was probably like ninety-five, right?

• 1:44:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think so.

• 1:44:06Joe Rogan?

  When did the first?

• 1:44:07Speaker 04

  It debuted on Comedy Central in ninety-nine, I think, or ninety-seven.

• 1:44:10Joe Rogan?

  But there was a tape that they had made that was going around.

• 1:44:13Speaker 04

  Yep. There's the Spirit of Christmas and there's something that I think that's Jesus for Santa Claus.

• 1:44:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, Jesus. With a Christmas card or something.

• 1:44:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. What year was that made? Cause I remember I was dating a gal who worked in an agency and she got a copy of it.

• 1:44:28Speaker 04

  This says ninety-five, but something just said ninety-two. Hold on.

• 1:44:32Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. So it was like the internet really became a thing in people's.

• 1:44:37Speaker 04

  First release, that's weird. Something was released in ninety-two and then something in ninety-five.

• 1:44:42Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:44:45Joe Rogan?

  The first in ninety-two, short films. So I think.

• 1:44:49Speaker 04

  I guess it would have been Jesus first.

• 1:44:50Joe Rogan?

  The earliest that I could have seen it was ninety-five, I believe.

• 1:44:58Speaker 04

  Jesus, the kids play play the Magic Cat on Frosty. I don't really remember that one, but definitely remember seeing the second one, Jesus and Santa.

• 1:45:07Joe Rogan?

  So when was the internet really in everybody's house? I got the internet for the first time in ninety-four. When did you get the internet?

• 1:45:13Speaker 04

  Uh, ninety, I got CompuServe first. Like AOL, it was like ninety-five, ninety-six.

• 1:45:20Joe Rogan?

  What was CompuServe? What was the difference between that and?

• 1:45:22Speaker 04

  It was like AOL, like chat rooms and.

• 1:45:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I had AOL. Yeah.

• 1:45:27Speaker 02

  I still don't have the internet. I still don't have it. But I'm gonna get it.

• 1:45:32Joe Rogan?

  You don't have internet in your house?

• 1:45:33Speaker 02

  This year.

• 1:45:34Joe Rogan?

  This year, you gonna get it?

• 1:45:35Speaker 02

  I do, I do. I don't use it, but I've got it.

• 1:45:38Joe Rogan?

  It's good to not use it. You're smart about that shit.

• 1:45:41Speaker 02

  Oh, I can't.

• 1:45:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:42Speaker 02

  I can't. I cannot read what people fucking say. And then every once in a while, I think I can for a second and I'm like, no. Yeah, just don't put it down. Cause when we were raising money, by the way, I gotta tell you, and I may have already told you, but uh, you know, when we bought the the Sherp, the Sherp or whatever the fuck it was, and that fire truck. They used that one year later to save lives. One year later, that same storm system hit that same riverbed and they used that thing for days, just and they talked about it on the news. And then now they have two of them and they said one of them was given by Joe Rogan and Ron White.

• 1:46:24Speaker 02

  And I was, it made me so proud that we were able to do something that really made a fucking difference, you know, and.

• 1:46:29Joe Rogan?

  No, that's really awesome. That's really awesome. We could do that. I mean, that's a no-brainer. That's a real thing that can help people. That's so cool. Those things look crazy too.

• 1:46:39Speaker 02

  Oh, they're so fun, man. I took it down the river and fucking you go up any bank, over giant rocks, the thing will go in it. You can't stop it. You just can't stop it.

• 1:46:49Joe Rogan?

  Fun thing to have the shit go sideways. That area gets hit a lot, right? Is that like Wimberley? Is that that area?

• 1:46:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, you know, you really, it it was that unique storm system, but it happened fucking twice. There, that baby is.

• 1:47:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't know if I sent this to you. I forgot. This is the one you guys got money for.

• 1:47:06Joe Rogan?

  Wow, that's it. That's the one we bought, Ron. Look at that. That's so dope.

• 1:47:10Speaker 02

  That's the coolest thing.

• 1:47:12Joe Rogan?

  That thing's incredible. Taking all those kids. That's so fun.

• 1:47:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, they they took that thing all the way across Greenland. Right across the middle of Greenland. Took weeks and weeks to do it, but they took it all the way across. Just nothing stopping them. They they put gas in the tires. And they can run it for, it's only got a fifty-five horsepower motor.

• 1:47:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:47:34Speaker 02

  And but it's all torque. So it doesn't go very fast, but it and it needs to get good gas mileage, right? Cause it needs to get into weird places. But they can put gas in those gigantic tires and.

• 1:47:45Joe Rogan?

  That's insane. So you can suck the gas out of the tire while you're driving?

• 1:47:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:49Joe Rogan?

  How do you even get the gas out of the tire? Like the tire's spinning.

• 1:47:53Speaker 02

  I don't know how it works.

• 1:47:54Joe Rogan?

  That doesn't make any sense to me.

• 1:47:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:56Joe Rogan?

  I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense. Like, how are you gonna get the gas out of the tires?

• 1:48:00Speaker 02

  It just, I don't know. They rigged up, I guess. I don't know. They got a line that goes to it.

• 1:48:05Joe Rogan?

  But the line's spinning. If the tire's spinning.

• 1:48:08Speaker 02

  But also the tires deflate completely at night. I mean, it it and then it airs itself back up.

• 1:48:16Joe Rogan?

  Whoa. Why does it do that?

• 1:48:19Speaker 02

  But I asked him a million questions before I bought the fucking thing.

• 1:48:24Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, look at that thing. That's nuts.

• 1:48:27Speaker 04

  This is a video explaining the fuel system. I don't know if, I guess.

• 1:48:33Speaker 06

  Each wheel has its own tank.

• 1:48:34Joe Rogan?

  Each wheel has its own tank.

• 1:48:36Speaker 06

  Evenly, so Sherp doesn't tilt. Even if one tank is empty, the Sherp remains stable. Cool fact, tires are self-regulating. While driving, they adjust air pressure via exhaust gas. No onboard compressor needed. So go ahead, shoot one tire. Sherp keeps rolling.

• 1:48:57Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:48:58Speaker 04

  I guess it did not explain.

• 1:48:59Speaker 06

  You ask, what's up with fuel in those Sherp wheels? Let's break it down. If you shoot the tire, will it explode? Will Sherp tilt if just one wheel has fuel? Yes, the fuel is stored in the wheel hubs, separate from the air chamber. There's sealed tanks inside the rim. Each wheel has its own tank, but the system balances weight evenly.

• 1:49:23Speaker 04

  Center of it.

• 1:49:24Joe Rogan?

  So you have to take them off to refuel. That's what it is. That makes more sense.

• 1:49:28Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:49:29Joe Rogan?

  That makes more sense. Still, very genius.

• 1:49:32Speaker 02

  Fucking cool.

• 1:49:33Joe Rogan?

  Great way to store fuel.

• 1:49:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're made in the Ukraine and the guy told me, we just take them out to the front, let the Russians shoot at it and then bring it back and figure out another way to build it. Just keep on going. They got plenty of room to test it. And that's all mud out there anyway in the Ukraine. So they, that's, you know, that's where that was all conceived and and and cool as shit, you know? What a, what a great fucking little vehicle. Nobody needs one really, unless you live right up there on the river and you wanna help in a flood, but.

• 1:50:01Joe Rogan?

  Or you got a crazy ranch.

• 1:50:03Speaker 02

  Crazy ranch.

• 1:50:04Joe Rogan?

  One of those guys.

• 1:50:04Speaker 04

  Just change where you're plugging into.

• 1:50:06Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so he can do it right. You don't have to take it off. You can just go right from those tanks.

• 1:50:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:50:13Joe Rogan?

  And that's how you pump fuel into your tank and drive it. That's nuts.

• 1:50:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, if you have a crazy ranch or if you're on a frontline, it's probably a good vehicle to have. That Wimberley area does get hit hard, right? They get those flash floods.

• 1:50:30Speaker 02

  Well, they got two of them, you know, and almost exactly a year apart. Both of them right at Fourth of July weekend and but I don't know if it it was supposed to be like a thousand-year event and then it happened a year later. And that wasn't a thousand-year event or a hundred-year flood or it was a one-year flood. But I don't know if it's a constant problem. I mean, yeah, yeah, all those river if it gets a storm stuck over that, everything is granite, right? So it all just fucking runs all over the place and feeds into the Guadalupe and then it goes nuts.

• 1:51:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, those flood zones are nuts when you you see like what can happen, like how high the water can get to and how quick it can happen.

• 1:51:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, we we drove it just the other day and just to see, you still, you can still see the devastation, but that Camp Mystic is just sitting right there. I didn't see it the first time I went down there. And but boy, it's just right there with Camp Mystic written right in big letters right on it. And I'm like, god damn, how could they not see that that might be a problem? But it never had been, you know? It had to take the worst thing and the worst place and, you know, no communication out there. And I know they blame a lot of it on somebody, Biden or somebody, but but it really was not foreseeable, you know?

• 1:51:49Speaker 02

  From my perspective. And I really did look at it. I mean, I I did, you know, I I I gathered as much information as I could and I'm like, yeah, they they couldn't have done anything about that. Just a horrible, horrible fucking thing. But, you know,

• 1:52:09Speaker 02

  life goes on. We all learn lessons and, you know, I don't think that Mystic camp will ever open again, which is too bad.

• 1:52:15Joe Rogan?

  I think they tried opening up again.

• 1:52:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think too many people bucked up against it now.

• 1:52:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's a understand.

• 1:52:21Speaker 02

  Gorgeous place though, right there on the fucking river. And it was there for a hundred years or something. I mean, it.

• 1:52:27Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts.

• 1:52:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, but.

• 1:52:30Joe Rogan?

  Did you see that, that crazy avalanche that broke the dam in Nepal?

• 1:52:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was over there when that happened and.

• 1:52:39Joe Rogan?

  Were you really?

• 1:52:40Speaker 02

  I mean, not in Nepal, but I mean, I was overseas and it was, every news cycle was just nothing about that.

• 1:52:45Joe Rogan?

  That's, that was insane.

• 1:52:47Speaker 02

  I wonder if that situation is in other places up there where there's big ice dams or whatever. I mean, I wonder if that's gonna be something that happens as those glacier caps start to melt. And they are melting because the the rivers were running like crazy when I was in Switzerland and and they were worried about it because normally they would not be getting that much water. But those ice caps, they had a really hot summer and those ice caps are keeping those rivers running.

• 1:53:16Joe Rogan?

  Imagine your your whole city's existence is tied to whether or not you have an avalanche.

• 1:53:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53:24Joe Rogan?

  And you're sitting there like, please, please no rock slides.

• 1:53:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53:28Joe Rogan?

  I think the rock slide, is it, is that what caused the Nepal thing? There was an avalanche that came down and and fucked up the dam? Is that what?

• 1:53:35Speaker 02

  No, the avalanche came down and blocked and that's what made the lake. Then the glacier broke off and landed in the lake and busted that down the chute. So there were actually two events. The the rock slide made a lake, then the.

• 1:53:51Joe Rogan?

  How long did it take for everything to happen?

• 1:53:54Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, once it broke.

• 1:53:56Joe Rogan?

  No, but it was really quick with the rock slide and like between the rock slide.

• 1:53:59Speaker 02

  I don't know. I don't know what the distance was between the rock slide and the avalanche.

• 1:54:03Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, man.

• 1:54:04Speaker 02

  But it was a pretty big lake and.

• 1:54:07Joe Rogan?

  That water, watching the water wash over those people was insane.

• 1:54:10Speaker 02

  That was horrible.

• 1:54:11Joe Rogan?

  Insane. And the speed in which it came and the volume.

• 1:54:15Speaker 02

  Oh, just knocking things completely down.

• 1:54:18Speaker 04

  Shattered ice and rock flowed down at speeds approaching a hundred and fifty kilometers an hour, kicking off a flood that raised water levels as much as nine meters in thirty minutes.

• 1:54:29Speaker 02

  Thirty minutes, ew.

• 1:54:31Joe Rogan?

  Duck! It's just the way it wa- like this idea people have, like, oh, the water's coming, you'd be able to run, like, uh-uh.

• 1:54:39Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:54:40Joe Rogan?

  You know, we watched that video, we're like, oh, you don't have a chance, you can't go anywhere, there's no- you have just nowhere to hide. And the volume, it was a wall, just a giant, like, a building-sized wall of water.

• 1:54:51Speaker 02

  Of boulders and

• 1:54:53Joe Rogan?

  Yup.

• 1:54:53Speaker 02

  Logs and ice.

• 1:54:55Joe Rogan?

  Cars and everything, and you're just gonna get crushed. It's not just water.

• 1:55:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55:01Joe Rogan?

  It's everything the water's carrying with it, insanely heavy shit.

• 1:55:04Speaker 02

  Stupid, stupid fucking mayhem, just total mayhem.

• 1:55:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, natural disasters are fucking crazy. When you see all the meteor spots on Earth, all the little, all the little fucking holes in the ground that, where they, you know, like this one Australia that they didn't discover until fairly recently.

• 1:55:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, I saw something on that.

• 1:55:28Joe Rogan?

  Look at that, we got hit by an asteroid, right there, huh, when did that happen?

• 1:55:32Speaker 02

  Asteroid the size of a house.

• 1:55:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's one, one in Nevada, this crazy one in Nevada, it's just this fucking gigantic crater. Have you ever seen that one?

• 1:55:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've seen it.

• 1:55:41Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, man, how, how often does that happen?

• 1:55:45Speaker 02

  I don't think it's happened in a long time, and we hope it's gonna be a little while before it happens again.

• 1:55:50Joe Rogan?

  The timescale of Earth is so vast, and the timescale of a person is so small, that many, many people can die, live and die, live and die, live and die, and it doesn't happen. And we say, oh, the odds of it happening are very low, but really, it's just random. It can happen, and if it does, boom, no more civilization.

• 1:56:10Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, but now we can shoot them down, right?

• 1:56:12Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:56:13Speaker 02

  We can't?

• 1:56:13Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:56:14Speaker 02

  We can't stop them?

• 1:56:15Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they're ready for that yet, no, I don't think, um, they're ready in any way to stop something big that's headed our way. I don't think so, I think they have some theories, they've never done it. Uh, I don't know how much time, effort, and/or resources have been put into making sure that if a civilization killer asteroid is coming our way, that we can all join together and launch rockets from China and Russia and everywhere else and knock that thing off course, I don't know.

• 1:56:42Speaker 02

  Put Elon on it.

• 1:56:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:44Speaker 02

  He'll fix it.

• 1:56:45Joe Rogan?

  He might be able to, he might be one of the only guys.

• 1:56:47Speaker 02

  Yup.

• 1:56:48Joe Rogan?

  That can figure out how to stop something like that, but I don't know if they even know when those things are coming. You know, some of them are coming from behind the sun, and they don't see them until it's too late.

• 1:56:58Speaker 02

  What do you think about, uh, uh,

• 1:57:02Speaker 02

  limiting how much people can contribute to a political party?

• 1:57:09Joe Rogan?

  I think-

• 1:57:09Speaker 02

  I think, I, I think if anybody, I think there should be a set amount that anybody can donate, and if they donate one dime more than that, they're hung by the neck until dead. That's what I think, uh, and, and keep, keep the billionaires out of politics.

• 1:57:25Joe Rogan?

  Um, I think also you could say the same thing about corporations, and then-

• 1:57:29Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:57:30Joe Rogan?

  Also, you could say the same thing about lobbyists.

• 1:57:33Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:57:34Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of influence on our politics that I think should be eliminated, and money in politics is, is, it's so ingrained, it's so entangled in politics, like, the idea of removing it entirely seems ridiculous to people. But if it didn't exist, and you said, hey, what do you think about, like, letting corporations, you know, those ones that dump shit into rivers and pollute ecosystems and do a lot of funky shit in third-world countries they're not supposed to do? What do you think about having them contribute so much money to our politics that they have incredible influence over regulations to get passed?

• 1:58:10Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:58:11Joe Rogan?

  What a great idea.

• 1:58:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wish I was one.

• 1:58:15Joe Rogan?

  Nobody would say that's a good idea, you would say, no, let's keep money out of it and make sure that all laws that get passed are for the benefit of the society and the people.

• 1:58:23Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:58:24Joe Rogan?

  Not individual corporations or individual people, yeah, definitely not. And then you would, you'd go even further than that, you'd say, well, let's, let's make sure that the people that are doing the job are compensated fairly, but are not allowed to insider trade.

• 1:58:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, isn't that? We're being grifted, Joe.

• 1:58:45Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:58:46Speaker 02

  We're being grifted.

• 1:58:47Joe Rogan?

  No, if ands or buts about that.

• 1:58:49Speaker 02

  I was listening to this, uh, this story was really about Chinese politics, and I don't, I don't think communism's the answer to anything. But you don't just, it's not a, the leader is not a popularity contest, that's somebody that's been in this business for forty years, you know, that knows how to run a country, it's not a just, here's this guy, we'll let this guy do it, everybody seems to like this guy. Uh, you know, it, it's all come from the ground up, you know, you're, and China works pretty well, I think, you know, I, I don't know, I've never been there, but uh, it makes sense that people in those powerful jobs should have a lot of experience.

• 1:59:26Joe Rogan?

  That, but they also can't be removed.

• 1:59:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:29Joe Rogan?

  They have total power, and if you say anything about the government, they will literally put you in a prison somewhere, they'll put you in a camp somewhere, they've removed people, they've silenced people, they've, even billionaires, they've made them disappear, you can't step out of line. And the cover, the government and the businesses work hand and glove, that's it, period, there's no government, y- y- no business that works without the influence of the government over there. So, there's, they have giant problems too, but they probably have better leadership in terms of, like, strengthening their country, but it's terrible for freedom. What you need is like, I've heard the argument, you know, I don't agree with it, but what you need is great leaders, right? But what you need is like a benevolent dictator, like, someone who really does care,

• 2:00:14Joe Rogan?

  someone who really is a good person, and, and genuinely doesn't want for anything or need for anything, and just wants to try to make their mark and make the world a better place.

• 2:00:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:23Joe Rogan?

  That doesn't exist.

• 2:00:24Speaker 02

  It doesn't, and why not, why not?

• 2:00:26Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, because most of the people that get the job, they, that's not who they are. Most of the people are either war mongers or pussyhounds, they're power brokers, they're people who want the feeling of being the top dog. You know, that's, those, those are the people that generally get to those positions, and those are the ones that, because this, the struggle is so hard to get there, and then they're gonna tear you down and attack you and to pull up things from your past, and most people don't want to go through that, and so a lot of people that may be good leaders never want that position.

• 2:00:55Speaker 02

  Right, because it's a shit job.

• 2:00:57Joe Rogan?

  And it doesn't even pay well.

• 2:00:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:59Joe Rogan?

  It's like, it pays a half a million dollars a year, and these guys that are, which is good money for a real job, but like, if you're being the President of the United States, you're around billionaires, and there's all this influence, and and then they leave the job, and then they get these speaking gigs, so they talk at a conference of bankers for a half a million bucks, and you're like, what?

• 2:01:16Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:01:17Joe Rogan?

  What is this? What is this shenanigans?

• 2:01:20Speaker 02

  It's-

• 2:01:20Joe Rogan?

  They're involved in here.

• 2:01:21Speaker 02

  It's the way, it is, the job doesn't pay much, but the job pays a lot, you know, if, if you work it that way, you know.

• 2:01:28Joe Rogan?

  They all leave rich.

• 2:01:32Joe Rogan?

  Jimmy Carter was like, the only one that, like, kind of stayed reasonable his whole life. He, he never became a rich guy after he left office, he, basically, that's who he was. He stayed the same way.

• 2:01:45Speaker 02

  I think Talarico might be one of those guys.

• 2:01:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, I would hope so, you know, um, look, it's always good to assume the best about people.

• 2:01:55Joe Rogan?

  He said some things that I think are questionable.

• 2:01:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, but, you know, God is non-binary, he said that one time, and then, then people are like, I don't know what non-binary means, and that makes me nervous, and-

• 2:02:09Joe Rogan?

  I get what he's saying there, that God is a, is not a-

• 2:02:11Speaker 02

  It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman.

• 2:02:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's God, it's an infinite loving force, it's not as simple as-

• 2:02:17Speaker 02

  I, I get it too.

• 2:02:18Joe Rogan?

  I get what he's saying, it's just, what you're saying is also like, you're, you know, I get people that want to say they're not a man or a woman, because I feel like you should say whatever you want to say. But to say that that's a thing is a different thing. Like this, like, if you're a biologist and you say there's non-binary people, like, are there? Like, what are we saying? There's XX and XY, and there's people that are intersex, there's people that have this weird thing, like, there's women that are born XY, uh, so they're a man, but they have like some, they have their testicles inside of their bodies, and they also have androgen-resistant genetics somehow or another, so they never become, like, masculine.

• 2:03:00Joe Rogan?

  And they look really feminine, but they're essentially XY chromosome is weirdness. That's, that's really what like non-binary is. That's a real non-binary. That's like very strange. That's like your intersex. But some people just don't feel comfortable in their skin and they don't want to be labeled a male or a female. They just want to be whatever they are, which is fine. But when you're talking about biology, I think we have to be able to make a distinction. We have to know like what we're actually talking about. You know, facts over feelings. Feelings are fine. Like you should be able to say what you call yourself Carol or Bob or whatever you want to do, man. You want to be a man now? Okay, you're a man. I'm cool with that. But let's not, you know, let's not let the nonsense invade the, the actual analysis

• 2:03:45Joe Rogan?

  of what we're talking about. And some of them we're talking about is just dysphoria. It's gender dysphoria. That's what it's always been described as. Which is, you know, there's a lot of things that people have wrong with them. It doesn't mean that, you know, they're bad people. It doesn't mean that, you know, should alienate them. They shouldn't have rights and that's, no one's saying that. You're saying like, no, you can't compete in the women's division because you're not. You're a biological man. And I know you wish you were a woman and I know you want to be identified as a woman. That's great. But when it comes to sports.

• 2:04:16Speaker 02

  Right, when it comes to tennis.

• 2:04:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, stop, stop, stop the nonsense. And this is, you know, it's just, there's a lot of like weird shit that goes along with compassion, you know, where people don't want to look at reality because reality itself is not compassionate. The reality itself is like, you know, you are discriminatory, you're transphobic, you're this, you're that. Like, okay. I'm not, that's not what we're saying. Like we're saying, like you've got to be reasonable. And reasonable is you've got to know what's the difference between a sex offender who decides he's a woman and wants to hang around with women versus a guy who has gender dysphobia, dysphoria and wants to be recognized as a woman. There's two different things.

• 2:04:58Speaker 02

  And if I get it wrong, forgive me. You know, if I don't call you the right name or whatever, I, I suggest you try to grow a pretty thick skin because people are always going to be mean, you know? So just let it run down your back. I mean, I've got thick skin, you know?

• 2:05:14Joe Rogan?

  It's a complicated conversation because it's not one that we all thought we were going to have 20 years ago. That was going to be the forefront of society, discussion about gender. Like it's odd, very odd. I just, I don't like it being promoted for young people because young people are getting surgeries and taking chemical castration drugs and doing, which is essentially what hormone blockers are. They're the same category of drugs they use for sex offenders when they chemically castrate them. It's fucked to do that to kids is fucked. Do that to kids that don't know what they're doing yet. They're, they're confused and there's a lot of detransitioners, man. There's a lot of people that went through that and really wish they didn't. And they get ostracized from the trans community. They get ostracized from progressive communities. They get, they get told they were never trans to begin with.

• 2:05:59Joe Rogan?

  Like what does that mean? Like what are you, what are you saying? This is not like you're saying someone's not black or not white, like just traits that are just, they are what they are. You have, you know, you have blonde hair, you have black hair. This is like what you're born with. To say you are not really transgender is like, what the fuck are you saying? You're making someone do something to their body. You're doing something to them through surgery or through chemicals. Like this is to say that you're not really one of, you're not really transgender. You just did it. Like what?

• 2:06:35Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:06:36Joe Rogan?

  How about recognize the fact that people are easily influenced and sometimes people make mistakes and sometimes people get convinced or convince themselves that they're, they should do something because it's, it's fashionable in society and it's, it's culturally relevant currently.

• 2:06:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm not for any of that, but I mean, I, I think try to be fair, try to be nice and, and you know, let them do whatever the fuck they want to do. But, but even, uh, Talarico is against having any kind of surgery before 18 and, uh, same as Paxton, but Paxton didn't cost this, uh, Talarico didn't cost this state $6 million in, uh, fines and lawsuits and that happened to Paxton.

• 2:07:20Joe Rogan?

  How did he cost, what did he do?

• 2:07:22Speaker 02

  Paxton?

• 2:07:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. What did he do that cost $6 million?

• 2:07:26Speaker 02

  Well, uh, back in 2020, uh, eight of his assistants turned him into the FBI for fraud and one of them was a 50-year Texas Ranger. He fired that guy, five decades of service in the Texas Rangers. Well, that guy sued him and, uh, and they, they fired four of the eight people that, that turned him in. He did. And fired him. And then he realized that he was going to get fucking sued over it. And, uh, he came up with a solution. He was going to give them $3 million, uh, to settle this case. And then the house said, no, it's not coming from us. And then they sued one $6 million. And guess who paid that $6 million?

• 2:08:08Speaker 02

  You and me paid the $6 million for his bribery and how he ever got out of this stuff. He was impeached by the house, his own party impeached him, 121 votes to 22. And then the senate put him back in because they didn't want to lose the seat. And, uh, but he's a criminal, just a piece of shit. And, uh.

• 2:08:29Joe Rogan?

  I don't know enough about him, but I do know that they're surprised that Talarico is ahead of him in the polls.

• 2:08:36Speaker 02

  I'm not. I think that people are sick of what's going on right now in Texas. Uh, that they, they've been in control for 30 years. What have they given us? Let somebody else fucking drive, uh, you know? I, I, I'm jacking with my marijuana and I'm, I'm ready to get them out.

• 2:08:52Joe Rogan?

  The marijuana thing is just so stupid because you look at the national polls, it's something in the range of 70% of the people think it should be legal.

• 2:08:59Speaker 02

  And, and we should decide, right? We, the people should decide.

• 2:09:04Joe Rogan?

  Uh, yeah. And if you find out that these people who are making these decisions have been influenced by the alcohol lobby or by anybody else.

• 2:09:10Speaker 02

  Hung by the neck until dead. That's what I'm saying. Let's get some severe penalties in there.

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• 2:10:17Joe Rogan?

  It's corruption and it's bad for us. And it's also bad for the look of Texas. Texas is supposed to be a place that's about freedom and it is in a lot of ways, but in that way it's definitely not.

• 2:10:27Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:10:28Joe Rogan?

  And it's definitely stupid. Again, we looked at what California's making, just the tax revenue, $7 billion. B with a B.

• 2:10:35Speaker 02

  With a B.

• 2:10:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And is there some enormous problems that have taken place?

• 2:10:41Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:10:41Joe Rogan?

  Since, no, no.

• 2:10:42Speaker 02

  You know what is, the, the problem is alcohol sales are down. That's the problem. That, that's what got it all stirred up. Alcohol's tanking it right now. I mean, wine, liquor, tequila, all of it is, is 20% or more off.

• 2:10:58Joe Rogan?

  What do you think is the cause of that?

• 2:10:59Speaker 02

  Well, it's that younger generation just doesn't feel the need to go get hammered every night. They don't have the wallet for it. The kids are broke. You know, they got $80,000 worth of fucking school debt that your kids don't have and my kid doesn't have. And, uh, you know, there's just no money for it. And then they, they go to these clubs and they like to smoke some weed and go in there and not drink. And I, you know?

• 2:11:23Joe Rogan?

  Also they don't like hangovers.

• 2:11:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I'm, I'm right there with them. I mean, I, I think it's a better way. I mean, I can't go through this life without some kind of buzz. I need it. And, uh, but liquor was the wrong one for me. And I just found better ways, you know? There's more than one way to skin a goddamn cat and, uh.

• 2:11:43Joe Rogan?

  I know. And the only reason why that stuff is illegal is corruption. It's stupid, all of it. Whether it's marijuana or mushrooms or all these things. You should, we should understand them, study them and they benefit a lot of people and they should be legal, period. Everybody who thinks not either hasn't done them or doesn't know what they're talking about or is coming from a very authoritarian perspective where you think the government should be allowed to control people's behavior. And I think that's fucking ridiculous.

• 2:12:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's fucking ridiculous too, Joe. Fucking ridiculous.

• 2:12:11Joe Rogan?

  Glad we're on the right page.

• 2:12:12Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 2:12:13Joe Rogan?

  I said, I'm glad we're on the right page.

• 2:12:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're on the same page, man. We're on the same page.

• 2:12:18Speaker 04

  You think cameras have anything to do with it?

• 2:12:20Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 2:12:20Speaker 04

  People recording people doing dumb shit and not being free to be...

• 2:12:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that stops people from getting drunk?

• 2:12:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe.

• 2:12:27Joe Rogan?

  Nah.

• 2:12:28Speaker 02

  Never stopped me.

• 2:12:29Speaker 04

  I'm talking about the kids. You were talking about kids. I was thinking about kids.

• 2:12:32Joe Rogan?

  Is that what you think?

• 2:12:33Speaker 04

  Nah, I'm sort of was asking like, it could be.

• 2:12:35Joe Rogan?

  Maybe.

• 2:12:36Speaker 04

  Afraid to be caught doing dumb shit and...

• 2:12:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, people are very aware of being caught and getting embarrassed because so many people have gone viral these days. Uh, maybe. Maybe it's a factor. It's possible.

• 2:12:47Speaker 02

  What did they do to Jelly Roll, man? I think, poor Jelly Roll. All he did was say the president was a fat pig like me. That's what he said.

• 2:12:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then he said, "If you're a Trump supporter, don't listen to my music."

• 2:12:59Speaker 02

  Well, that was after they canceled him anyway. And so he, I mean, I'm not really... I like Jelly Roll fine. I don't know him that well, but, you know, but I wasn't a big listener anyway. But I've met him a couple of times. He seemed like a nice guy. But, boy, they went nuts.

• 2:13:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:17Speaker 02

  I mean, nuts. Get him out of here. Never listen to his music. What did he say?

• 2:13:23Joe Rogan?

  I didn't see what he said. I heard about it. Um, but Jelly Roll's a sweetheart.

• 2:13:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:13:28Joe Rogan?

  I wouldn't have advised him to say that.

• 2:13:30Speaker 02

  I wouldn't have either. I've always been careful with that kind of stuff, you know? The, the, "Don't, don't be stupid, Ron. Don't be stupid."

• 2:13:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was on the Jimmy Kimmel Show, right?

• 2:13:40Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:13:40Joe Rogan?

  He was doing a monologue. I don't even know if he wrote it, you know? It could have been the writers from the Jimmy Kimmel Show who are obviously very anti-Trump. Like, or at least Kimmel is, very openly anti-Trump. So, you know, they could have just tricked him into doing it.

• 2:13:56Speaker 02

  Tricked him into throwing his career right out the goddamn window.

• 2:13:59Joe Rogan?

  Look, he's super talented. He'll be fine. It'll, it'll be one of those things where it's, it's a bump in the road and he'll have to get over it.

• 2:14:06Speaker 02

  I hope so. He seemed like such a nice guy when I met him.

• 2:14:09Joe Rogan?

  He is. He's a sweetheart.

• 2:14:10Speaker 02

  He'd been a Ron White fan since he was a kid, you know, and I, I gotta have a warm place in my heart for those kind of folks.

• 2:14:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's also going through a lot of different changes in his life, right? Like, so here he loses 300 pounds, which is a giant change, gets hooked on fitness. This is a giant change. Changes his whole life, changes his body, did the ways to wealth thing, just like you. And then he gets divorced. So that's another big change. So he's got these two giant changes and then he's on the Kimmel Show and he's saying stupid things.

• 2:14:37Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:14:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's saying jokes. I shouldn't even say he's saying stupid things. He's saying... I'm not even saying it's stupid. I'm just saying, like, if you want people to like you, like, going after Trump and that, from, especially from his perspective, like, as a country guy, like, that's a giant chunk of your crowd.

• 2:14:56Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 2:14:57Joe Rogan?

  But if you feel like that's what... He was doing stand-up, you know, uh, at the club.

• 2:15:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:15:02Joe Rogan?

  He did it a bunch of times and he was practicing. So I think that's also one of the reasons why he wanted to host the Kimmel Show.

• 2:15:09Speaker 02

  I, I think that might have been rushed a little bit.

• 2:15:14Speaker 02

  Stand-up's really, really hard.

• 2:15:15Joe Rogan?

  It's a long road.

• 2:15:16Speaker 02

  It is.

• 2:15:17Joe Rogan?

  He, he got laughs. He had some good lines, but it was, you know, it was what you expect from someone who's beginning their stand-up journey.

• 2:15:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:15:25Joe Rogan?

  But, uh, I think, you know, if you know the guy, and I do, he's the best. He's a sweetheart. I mean, at least my experiences with him have all been awesome and with other people that I know.

• 2:15:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:15:36Joe Rogan?

  He's a very jolly, friendly, lovable guy. But like all people, he is human and humans do things that other humans don't like. And then you suffer the consequences and, you know.

• 2:15:47Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:15:49Joe Rogan?

  I think he'll be fine. He'll be fine because he's super talented. I mean, he's a fucking brilliant singer and brilliant songwriter. We'll see. I think he'll be fine. I think, you know, if he could do it all again, I bet he probably wouldn't. That's part of life, you know?

• 2:16:04Speaker 02

  You can't back up.

• 2:16:05Joe Rogan?

  No. You do some things, some things you wish you hadn't and you go, "Oh, shit." You know, but talented people, like, look at Kanye West. He had a fucking diamond swastika around his neck. A year later, he's selling out giant arenas.

• 2:16:18Speaker 02

  Right. I can't explain. I can't explain Kanye.

• 2:16:23Joe Rogan?

  People bounce back. Well, he's super talented. I mean, that's really the thing.

• 2:16:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16:29Joe Rogan?

  Unbelievably prolific and super talented and driven, like a motherfucker and...

• 2:16:34Speaker 02

  And full-blown nuts.

• 2:16:36Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 2:16:39Speaker 02

  Just like us, you know?

• 2:16:41Joe Rogan?

  Just in a different way. We're, I mean, everybody's fucking crazy. That's the thing, like, the people are attacking Jelly Roll. One of the things, the reasons people like to do that is they're terrified of them ever doing something that's stupid. And so then when someone does do something that they think is stupid, they just can't wait to attack.

• 2:16:56Speaker 02

  Boy.

• 2:16:57Joe Rogan?

  Especially someone that's like on top of the world, like Jelly Roll.

• 2:17:00Speaker 02

  Relentless. Every, I mean, I've watched TikTok, you know, and I've just seen those feeds coming through. It is, "Jelly Roll?" Oh, boy, they're losing their minds over it. I'm like, what? Trump invented name calling. He's the one that brought it back from the death with Ellen Degenerate. That was the first one he did, I think.

• 2:17:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:20Speaker 02

  And, uh, I'm like, oh, name calling. That's what we're back to.

• 2:17:24Joe Rogan?

  I don't even know what the joke was. It was saying Trump's a fat fuck just like me. Like, what was he saying?

• 2:17:28Speaker 02

  That's what he said. I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't know what the whole bit was, but...

• 2:17:33Joe Rogan?

  That's all it was?

• 2:17:34Speaker 02

  But he, he said, uh, "Trump is a, Trump's like me. He's a fat pig."

• 2:17:40Joe Rogan?

  That's it?

• 2:17:40Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 2:17:41Joe Rogan?

  And that's what they got mad at?

• 2:17:42Speaker 02

  That's what they got mad at. He called the president a fat pig.

• 2:17:44Joe Rogan?

  That's interesting.

• 2:17:44Speaker 02

  And he was kind of fat.

• 2:17:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's definitely not thin.

• 2:17:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:17:49Speaker 02

  Not from, not from where I'm sitting.

• 2:17:51Joe Rogan?

  I mean, was the joke, like, he could lose weight because I lost weight? I mean, what was he saying?

• 2:17:56Speaker 02

  Uh, I just think he was saying...

• 2:18:00Joe Rogan?

  Should we play it?

• 2:18:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:02Joe Rogan?

  All right, let's play it. Oh, it says here.

• 2:18:04Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:18:04Joe Rogan?

  "Fat pig comment." I like how...

• 2:18:08Joe Rogan?

  "Jelly Roll joked that his own 300-pound weight loss meant he essentially lost an entire Donald Trump. The fat pig comment, he quoted past remarks Trump made about others and said, 'Well, Mr. President, from one fat pig to another, take it from me that physical fitness is very important.'" Huh, that's not bad.

• 2:18:25Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:18:26Joe Rogan?

  That's not bad at all. From one fat pig to another?

• 2:18:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:30Joe Rogan?

  Saying that he lost an entire Donald Trump. Okay, he did.

• 2:18:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:33Joe Rogan?

  Like, literally, he lost 300 pounds. That's more than a Trump, probably. And then he said, "From one fat pig to another, take it from me that physical fitness is very important." Is that terrible?

• 2:18:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. No.

• 2:18:44Joe Rogan?

  That's not terrible at all.

• 2:18:46Speaker 02

  And that's it.

• 2:18:47Joe Rogan?

  So maybe the real problem was him, um...

• 2:18:52Speaker 02

  Being on Kimmel to begin with.

• 2:18:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:54Speaker 02

  Would be a mark against him to...

• 2:18:57Joe Rogan?

  And then maybe saying, "If you're a Trump supporter, don't listen to my music."

• 2:19:01Speaker 02

  But that was the next day or whatever.

• 2:19:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you can play it.

• 2:19:04Speaker 08

  Sadly, those are the only laps Trump's been doing lately.

• 2:19:08Speaker 08

  According to the Washington Post, "A lot of doctors are worried about the president's weight. After his last physical, we found out Trump gained 14 pounds, which means he's now tipping the scales at almost 240."

• 2:19:21Speaker 08

  It's crazy. Think about this, y'all. In the last few years, I've lost 300 pounds.

• 2:19:37Speaker 08

  That means I've lost an entire Donald Trump.

• 2:19:42Speaker 08

  And let's be honest, based on his approval ratings, it seems like most of the country wants to do the same thing.

• 2:19:52Speaker 08

  Now, listen, we should take it easy, y'all. We shouldn't be making fun of the president for his weight because we know that he would never do that to other people.

• 2:20:00Speaker 01

  I don't speak badly about somebody's physical disability.

• 2:20:07Speaker 01

  But he's got the biggest stomach I have ever seen.

• 2:20:09Speaker 00

  He's extra fatty than ever.

• 2:20:11Speaker 01

  The mayor is incompetent and the governor is a big fat slob.

• 2:20:20Speaker 01

  I tell you, I have a friend of mine. He's fat as, are you the sort of guy like this? He said Chris Christie's a fat pig. You cannot do that. Chris Christie is not a fat pig. He is not a fat pig. He's not a fat pig. Don't call him a fat pig. Sir, in the back, don't call him a fat pig, okay? I don't talk about people being fat. I refuse to talk about the fact that he's a fat slob. I don't mention it.

• 2:20:45Speaker 08

  Well, if that ain't the pot calling the kettle fat.

• 2:20:54Speaker 02

  Well, Mr. President, from one fat pig to another, take it from me that physical fitness is very important. And trust me, you'll be happy to see your penis again.

• 2:21:10Speaker 02

  I just speak from a little bit of experience here, y'all. The first time I seen mine recently, I was surprised at how cute it was.

• 2:21:17Joe Rogan?

  It's rudimentary stand-up, right? Like, he's learning how to do stand-up, so he's almost like he's a politician talking.

• 2:21:23Speaker 02

  I gotta tell ya, I think he did a pretty good job with that.

• 2:21:25Joe Rogan?

  Did a very good job. But, I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's monologue-type stand-up, and clearly someone wrote it, and he's reading it off a teleprompter. Yeah.

• 2:21:35Speaker 02

  Probably. But, anyway, it wasn't, you know, it certainly wasn't bad. I mean, it was just jokes, you know?

• 2:21:41Joe Rogan?

  It's, it's just jokes. If someone got so upset, they never want to listen to Jelly Roll's music again after that.

• 2:21:48Speaker 02

  They're crying. They're crying. They're in tears. I see it. I see it.

• 2:21:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it wasn't the funniest stuff. But, I mean, he didn't, if that's someone, they wrote that shit for him. I guarantee you.

• 2:21:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm sure they did.

• 2:21:58Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent. You could tell he was reading it. It wasn't like he was just speaking off the cuff. He was one hundred percent reading a thing.

• 2:22:05Speaker 02

  He looked good, though.

• 2:22:06Joe Rogan?

  Looks great.

• 2:22:06Speaker 02

  Didn't he? He was kinda handsome, you know?

• 2:22:08Joe Rogan?

  He's very handsome now. He lost a lot of weight, man. I mean, the guy, uh, when he came to do the podcast, he ran six and a half miles on the treadmill while we were hanging out.

• 2:22:16Speaker 02

  No shit?

• 2:22:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. And talking while he's running. So, I'm working out, I'm in front of him, working out, lifting weights, and he's running on this treadmill the entire time. And talking while he's running.

• 2:22:26Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 2:22:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's fit now. It's kind of crazy. We went to see him, um, you know, he performed at, uh, you know, Matthew McConaughey has that Mack and Jack, that big thing that they do, where it's a big, uh, it's a charity benefit and auction, and he has, people perform. So, he, um, Jelly Roll performed. He was the performer that night. And then, uh, as he's coming off the stage, there's this, uh, stairway with a railing on it. And we're, me and Tony, uh, are over to the left side, but we're, you know, behind the stage. He grabs a hold of the railing and jumps over it. And I go, "Do you know what you just did?" I go, "You used to be five hundred pounds, and now you just grabbed a railing and jumped over it like a cat." Like, that's crazy. So, like, you're a different human being.

• 2:23:09Speaker 02

  That's kind of inspiring, actually.

• 2:23:11Joe Rogan?

  It's very inspiring. Yeah, I wish he didn't say that stuff, but, I mean, it's just sometimes the juice is not worth the squeeze.

• 2:23:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're right about that. You know? You gotta figure out the juice in the squeeze, baby. You gotta figure it out.

• 2:23:23Joe Rogan?

  But, you know, if you know Jelly Roll, he's a great guy. It's just, that kind of monologue, stand-up stuff, it is funny seeing all the different times Trump called people fat, though. That is fucking hilarious.

• 2:23:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:23:40Joe Rogan?

  But, you know, Trump supporters are fucking nuts, man. They're rabid. He represents something other than just a person to them.

• 2:23:47Speaker 02

  Oh, it's Christ.

• 2:23:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, he represents something, some, a leader that they wish they had, you know?

• 2:23:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:23:54Joe Rogan?

  Which is a real problem in our society in general with leaders. We, we look to them as if they're something different than every other person that's ever been a leader before. Like, this is the one. This is the one that's gonna save us.

• 2:24:05Speaker 02

  Right. And, and you know what? Some people are hopeless. And they're, anybody that says, "Well, I'll give you hope," then, then, you know, that, that, what are you gonna do? You know, if you're gonna, I've had to, I've said this more than once, that in, back when, that if you really want to improve your lot in life, and you don't really have anything, and you don't really have an education, you should be Bernie fucking Sanders, you know, who's your guy. Uh, because he wants to get the minimum wage up. You think somebody's gonna come in and hand you a bunch of loot? That's never gonna happen. Maybe you can make a couple more bucks an hour. Go with that, you know, that's, no, is it Bernie Sanders?

• 2:24:45Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:24:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. The guy from Vermont.

• 2:24:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, okay. So, you know, he was really trying to help, but there, like, that's not enough. We don't.

• 2:24:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, they didn't want him. The Democratic establishment did not want that guy. That was the first time that I ever got attacked, when I had Bernie on. And, uh, someone was on the podcast, and they said, "Who are you gonna vote for?" I said, "Oh, it was Jimmy Dore." And I said, "If I was gonna vote for anybody, I'd probably vote for Bernie. He's the one who makes the most sense." Like, he's the only guy that's like, he's anti-war. He wants to take a small amount of money from, uh, stock market speculation, and use that to fund a bunch of these social programs. I'm like, "Let's see." This is a long time ago. I don't necessarily think that I feel the same way anymore about him. Um, one of the reasons being is that he kinda gave in to the Democratic establishment. He let them run him over during that whole thing with Hillary, where they rigged the primary.

• 2:25:41Joe Rogan?

  He let, he let them get away with stuff where I think he should've put his foot down and said, "This is fucked up."

• 2:25:46Speaker 02

  Right, this is the way I'm gonna do it.

• 2:25:47Joe Rogan?

  You guys are rigging the party. And they haven't had a legit primary in, like, what, more than a decade?

• 2:25:53Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:25:54Joe Rogan?

  That's not good. That's not good if you want to be the party that's the solution, the change. Well, you have, where's your primaries? What are you doing? Like, when they installed Kamala, they just shoved her in there, and all of a sudden, this is, this is our representative now. Biden's out. And we were like, "Wait, what?

• 2:26:10Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:26:10Joe Rogan?

  There's no primary? Like, what about the rules? What about the way we've always done this?

• 2:26:14Speaker 02

  Well, Biden was taking a nap. Had to do something.

• 2:26:18Joe Rogan?

  It's amazing he's still alive. I thought he was gonna die right after he got out of office. I thought, I thought he was probably barely hanging on, which is also the real, my, one of the, my big fears about him doing another four years. Like, there's no way, no way he's gonna make it out of four years.

• 2:26:36Speaker 02

  I don't know. It's all gonna be over soon.

• 2:26:38Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean? AI or the apocalypse?

• 2:26:40Speaker 02

  The apocalypse.

• 2:26:41Joe Rogan?

  Did you hear that J.D. Vance was doing a speech I was listening to on Tim Dillon's show? Yeah. I almost brought this up a second ago, 'cause I just saw it on Twitter again. He was talking about end times. The, what did, what was his exact quote? Let's play it. Let's play it. He's like, "First of all, who are you talking to that you feel like this is the thing to say?"

• 2:27:05Joe Rogan?

  This is talking about, like, whether or not we're entering end times.

• 2:27:12Speaker 02

  J.D. Vance was?

• 2:27:13Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:27:16Speaker 02

  He's on Tim Dillon's show?

• 2:27:17Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no, no. He was, uh, just giving this speech. Tim Dillon was making fun of it. It was fucking hilarious. What's he saying? Friends and their, and their family. I, I, so I, I tend to think, like, the, while I wouldn't be shocked if we are living in the end times, what I'm trying to focus on is doing as much of God's work as possible right now. And if that leads to the end times, okay. And if that leads to, you know, us building a better world that thrives and survives for a very long time after I'm gone, that's great, too. I just think you gotta kind of try to have.

• 2:27:55Joe Rogan?

  There's the other part. It sounds like he's saying if it lead, that the second hope is it leads to a great world.

• 2:28:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:28:04Joe Rogan?

  But if it leads to the end times. Leads to.

• 2:28:06Speaker 02

  That's okay, too.

• 2:28:07Joe Rogan?

  You know, us building a better world that thrives, and if that leads to the end times, okay. Not okay. Yeah. What are you saying? If that leads to the end times, okay? Not great. That's not okay. And if it doesn't lead to the end times, and everybody lives a great life, well, that's great, too.

• 2:28:24Speaker 02

  That's, that'd be just fine.

• 2:28:26Joe Rogan?

  That doesn't seem like the optimum perspective.

• 2:28:29Speaker 02

  What is he even saying?

• 2:28:30Joe Rogan?

  I feel like you should reverse those two. And the goal is not end times. The goal is make a beautiful world.

• 2:28:38Speaker 02

  For all of us.

• 2:28:38Joe Rogan?

  Where people thrive, and everybody's happy.

• 2:28:41Speaker 02

  And leave the end out.

• 2:28:43Joe Rogan?

  That's the problem with religious people that are convinced that they, there's a, a set of events that have been predicted.

• 2:28:49Speaker 02

  You think he's a religious person?

• 2:28:51Joe Rogan?

  You think he's a fake religious person?

• 2:28:53Speaker 02

  Vance?

• 2:28:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:54Speaker 02

  J.D. Vance?

• 2:28:55Joe Rogan?

  He's a Catholic. He's very religious. He wrote a book about, um, what was his book? Communion? Yeah. That one was called He's Pitchin'. Yeah. Yeah, he wrote a book about his, you know, spiritual journey.

• 2:29:08Speaker 02

  Oh, I didn't, I saw the other movie.

• 2:29:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, that's why it, Communion, the other one, that, I know, I brought that up when he was on the podcast. Like, you know, you wrote a book about a guy who got abducted by aliens? That's the same book, title? That's Whitley Strieber's book, Communion.

• 2:29:22Speaker 02

  Oh, shit, really?

• 2:29:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a famous movie with, um, who's in the, who's in Communion?

• 2:29:31Joe Rogan?

  God damn it.

• 2:29:32Speaker 04

  I don't think, I wanna say someone, but I don't think it's right.

• 2:29:36Speaker 04

  1989?

• 2:29:37Joe Rogan?

  Uh...

• 2:29:38Speaker 02

  I just knew about hillbilly-

• 2:29:40Joe Rogan?

  Christopher Walken, that's right.

• 2:29:41Speaker 02

  I just knew about hillbilly allegies, or whatever the fuck that was.

• 2:29:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that was his first book, and his new one is Communion.

• 2:29:46Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:29:47Joe Rogan?

  But there was a book called Communion by this guy Whitley Strieber, who had been abducted by aliens allegedly.

• 2:29:52Speaker 04

  You know about the name changes?

• 2:29:53Joe Rogan?

  What is that?

• 2:29:54Speaker 04

  He's changed his name like four times?

• 2:29:58Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:29:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:30:00Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute. Okay, James Donald Bowman, his birth name. Um, James David Hamill, the name given to him after his mother married her third husband. Oh, well, that's understandable.

• 2:30:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, but he changed it when he was in high school, I think, for that one.

• 2:30:13Joe Rogan?

  Uh, who, but he adopted him. He went by J.D. Hamill through high, high school. That makes sense. James David Vance, the name he adopted in 2013 before graduating from law school, changing his name to Vance to honor his maternal grandparents, Mama and Papa, who helped raise him. Well, there's a logic behind it, at least. It's not like he's like ducking taxes or something.

• 2:30:38Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:30:39Speaker 04

  Maybe, I'm not saying that's why he did it, but how many people do you know have changed their name like that?

• 2:30:43Joe Rogan?

  Not many.

• 2:30:44Speaker 04

  At least more than once.

• 2:30:45Joe Rogan?

  That is odd. He did it three times.

• 2:30:48Speaker 02

  Four.

• 2:30:49Joe Rogan?

  I wonder if he's trying to reinvent yourself? Why'd he do that?

• 2:30:51Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:30:52Joe Rogan?

  I don't, I don't like the end times talk.

• 2:30:54Speaker 02

  I don't trust him.

• 2:30:55Joe Rogan?

  I don't like that talk. That kinda talk is crazy talk.

• 2:30:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:30:58Joe Rogan?

  Like, if it's end, end times, okay? No. Jamie said it best.

• 2:31:03Speaker 04

  Not, not good.

• 2:31:04Joe Rogan?

  Not okay.

• 2:31:05Speaker 02

  That's not okay.

• 2:31:06Joe Rogan?

  That's not okay. No, that, that spooks me out. It's, that's, like, I understand why people are attracted by religion. I understand it from, like, giving you a moral framework and ethical frame, I get that. But when people think that they absolutely know what the interpretations are, and absolutely know what's going to happen, and they have their-

• 2:31:28Speaker 02

  I'll absolutely quit listening to them talk.

• 2:31:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:31Speaker 02

  If they, if, if that's what they come at me with. I know, and you don't know. And like, well, my, my uncle was a Baptist preacher, so I grew up in the church and was a really involved, really involved with every single aspect of the Baptist church. And, uh, I believed that my uncle was the, uh, who you met, uh, he smelled like piss, and he was having problems, but he- But he was my hero my whole life, 'cause I thought he was the only one that was telling me the, you know, the truth. And then he ends up hitting on my girlfriend.

• 2:32:04Joe Rogan?

  He was an animal!

• 2:32:05Speaker 02

  He was! He, he asked her to marry him. He asked Jeannie to marry him.

• 2:32:11Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 2:32:12Speaker 02

  And she, I, I came home, they'd watched a show, and then they came back, and I had another show to do. I came back, nobody was in the living room, I was staying at the condo, and, and I said, "How'd it go?" And he goes, "He asked me to marry him." And I'm like, "Was he, he was joking, right?" And I said, "I, I'm in love with your nephew." And he goes, "Did he ask you to marry him?" I'm like, "Fuck, dude, really?" And, I mean, I never said it-

• 2:32:33Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't he really old then?

• 2:32:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, yeah, he's ninety.

• 2:32:37Joe Rogan?

  Ninety, yeah. I think he's kind of not really all there.

• 2:32:40Speaker 02

  No, no, he's not all there anymore. But, uh, but, but still, like, I grew up in the church, and I understand the, the church.

• 2:32:46Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:32:46Speaker 02

  And I understand what's good about it, and, and, uh, and, and yes, they were teaching a good way of life. You know, to, to be honest, and, you know, all those things that you should be. And you should follow those ten commandments anyway. You know, they're all good, except for one of them, or something. I don't know what I don't like, but I can't remember which one it was, but, um, but anyway, uh, I came away from the whole thing with that. I'm like, "How do I know?" You know, my family, we never talked about politics that much. We were a little town up in the Panhandle, and they were all Baptist or Church of Christ, and even they didn't agree with each other. And the Church of Christ is kind of a Texas religion. It came, started here, and-

• 2:33:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 2:33:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. And, uh, so, very small, but my grandmother was that. And, uh, so, you know, she'd go around picking up all the little ladies and go to this little church, and she spoke in tongues every Sunday morning. She would stand up and-

• 2:33:47Speaker 02

  And I was sitting right next to her, and it embarrassed me every single time. And then the preacher's wife would stand up and interpret, 'cause she had the gift of interpretation. That's one of the gifts, and it was always a fundraising thing. You know, it was always the, the Lord telling you to go deep into your wallet, and-

• 2:34:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, how convenient.

• 2:34:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:34:08Joe Rogan?

  Did you ever see, um, the fat, what is it, Gemstones? Fabulous Gemstones? What is this called? Righteous, Righteous Gemstones?

• 2:34:14Speaker 02

  Funniest thing I've ever seen in my life.

• 2:34:15Joe Rogan?

  Damn, that's a good show.

• 2:34:16Speaker 02

  Oh, it is so rich, man. I just can't wait for another fucking season of that.

• 2:34:21Joe Rogan?

  That show is fucking phenomenal. And that's, that, that's a real thing. I mean, that's where Kennison started. You know, Kennison was one of those revival, tent revival preachers.

• 2:34:30Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:34:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:31Speaker 02

  Yep. And I, and you know what? That's where I learned this art form, was watching my uncle preach. He was very funny, and, uh, always getting a laugh on stage, saving souls every fucking week. And I thought it was the greatest thing ever, but he was a great orator. You know, really, really good. And, uh, and I know that's where I learned, I, I wanna be that guy on stage, but I just don't wanna have a religious message. You know, I wanna be able to tell some dick jokes. And, uh, but that's where I got it, I know. And that's where Chris Rock got his too, you know? His dad was her uncle, or something, was a preacher, right? Pretty common.

• 2:35:05Joe Rogan?

  A really good preacher is a really good orator.

• 2:35:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:35:08Joe Rogan?

  There's people that are good at it, and there's people that are-

• 2:35:10Speaker 02

  Larry, Larry the Cable Guy, his, his dad was a preacher.

• 2:35:13Joe Rogan?

  Makes sense.

• 2:35:14Speaker 02

  And a pig farmer.

• 2:35:15Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:35:16Speaker 02

  That adds up to Larry the Cable Guy.

• 2:35:18Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense. It's, it's just, it's a real problem when people pretend they have the answers. 'Cause people wanna believe that they do. They really wanna believe this person knows. Well, if someone tells you, "You have to do this, or you're going to burn in hell forever," like, "Are you fucking sure?"

• 2:35:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, really? If you thought this through?

• 2:35:38Joe Rogan?

  How do you know? Like, based on what?

• 2:35:43Speaker 02

  I have no idea, but I'm glad it's there. I'm glad people are tied to it, and, uh, you know, I don't wanna, I, I don't care about, I don't bust on anybody's faith, be- because I don't believe that. It doesn't mean that you, it doesn't mean I'm right. You know, I've, I've been wrong about so many fucking things, I might be wrong about all of it, but-

• 2:36:02Joe Rogan?

  The problem was when someone believes something, but then wants to force other people to believe it too. And that's, uh, that's an age-old problem-

• 2:36:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:08Joe Rogan?

  With human beings. That's a real issue.

• 2:36:13Joe Rogan?

  All right, Ron, let's get the fuck out of here. We've got a show to do tonight. Let's go.

• 2:36:18Speaker 02

  Let's go do it, man. Uh, I'll be there at, uh, seven o'clock, or whatever.

• 2:36:21Joe Rogan?

  Yes, sir.

• 2:36:22Speaker 02

  And, uh, and then I, I, and then I'm closing, uh, Thursday night.

• 2:36:27Joe Rogan?

  Beautiful.

• 2:36:27Speaker 02

  Both shows, to get ready for these shows in Florida.

• 2:36:30Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 2:36:30Speaker 02

  Can you look up my dates in Florida real quick? So I'd say which ones it's-

• 2:36:34Joe Rogan?

  He's already got it. tatersalad.com.

• 2:36:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, there we go.

• 2:36:38Joe Rogan?

  Dayton Beach, uh, Jacksonville on the 11th, Dayton Beach on the 12th, Sarasota on the 13th, all throughout Texas.

• 2:36:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, Grand Prairie, that's the anniversary date, right there.

• 2:36:49Joe Rogan?

  September 18th.

• 2:36:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:51Joe Rogan?

  Forty years. That's gonna be fun.

• 2:36:53Speaker 02

  It's gonna be a lot of fun.

• 2:36:54Joe Rogan?

  tatersalad.com. The Cosmopolitan. How's that Cosmopolitan? I heard the Cosmopolitan face in Vegas is very nice.

• 2:37:00Speaker 02

  Fuck, yeah. Great, twenty-three-hundred-seater.

• 2:37:03Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 2:37:03Speaker 02

  So a thousand seats bigger than the, the one I played at the Mirage.

• 2:37:07Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 2:37:08Speaker 02

  And, uh, I stay in the, uh, mansion over at the MGM Grand. That's pretty sweet living over there.

• 2:37:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, look at you, playing golf.

• 2:37:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, playing golf.

• 2:37:16Joe Rogan?

  Let's wrap this bitch up.

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  All right, bye.

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  Appreciate you, brother.

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  I love you, man.

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  Love you, brother.

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  And, bye, brother.

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